# Mom Goes Camping > Mom Goes Camping > Generated by All in One SEO Pro v5.0.4, this is an llms-full.txt file, used by LLMs to index the site. ## Posts ### [Blog](https://momgoescamping.com/blog/) **Published:** February 23, 2025 **Author:** Mom Goes Camping **Content:** [![reasons to take kids camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/take-kids-camping.jpg "take kids camping - Mom Goes Camping") ](https://momgoescamping.com/reasons-to-take-kids-camping/) #### [6 Proven Reasons to Take Your Kids Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/reasons-to-take-kids-camping/) 24/11/2015 No Comments In 1998, more than 9.2 million overnight stays in national parks… [Read More](https://momgoescamping.com/reasons-to-take-kids-camping/) [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/sawyer-mini-review-1.jpg "sawyer mini review - Mom Goes Camping") ](https://momgoescamping.com/sawyer-mini-water-filter-review/) #### [Sawyer Mini Water Filter Review: Tested After 11 Years](https://momgoescamping.com/sawyer-mini-water-filter-review/) 25/11/2015 No Comments Water is one of the most important elements of survival. 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This family camping checklist includes all the essentials.  The items with a \* are optional but useful to have.  I’ve divided them into categories. --- ### [Download this family camping checklist as a printable PDF](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/family-camping-checklist-momgoescamping.pdf) --- ## Packing Quantities at a Glance The question I get most from first-time camping families is “how much should we bring?” Here are the quantities I use for my own family: | Item | How much to pack | |---|---| | Water | 1 gallon per person per day (more in hot weather or if you’re hiking) | | Socks | 1 pair per person per day, plus 2 spare pairs | | Underwear | 1 per person per day, plus 2 spares | | Diapers | 1.5 times your normal daily count | | Sunscreen | 1 bottle per 3 people for a weekend | | Firewood | 1 bundle per evening (check campground rules about bringing outside wood) | | Stove fuel | 1 canister per 2 days of cooking, plus 1 extra | | Trash bags | 1 per day, plus extras for wet and dirty clothes | --- ## Sleeping Items: - **Tent:** Decide whether it makes sense to have one big tent or two small tents. Also, consider the [type of tent](https://momgoescamping.com/types-camping-tents-with-photos/). - **Sleeping Bags:** These should be mummy style bags and have a temperature rating suitable to where you are going. - **Sleeping Pad:** This is absolutely necessary! Otherwise you will lose lots of heat through the ground and be cold (no matter how warm your sleeping bag is). - **Pillow:** I just bunch up my sweatshirt to use as a pillow. However, it’s nice to have a real pillow. - **Tent stakes and mallet:** Bring a few extra stakes. They bend and go missing more often than you would think. - **\*Ground cloth or footprint:** Protects the bottom of your tent and keeps moisture out. - **\*Extra blankets:** Nights are often colder than the forecast says. --- ## Cooking Items: Before you go camping, think about the food you are going to consume each day.  You might even want to make a spreadsheet of meals for each day.  This way you will make sure you have everything you need for those meals. For example, if you plan on eating canned soup for a few meals, you better make sure you bring a can opener. - **Camp Stove and Fuel:** A gas-powered stove is the way to go. These come in plenty of sizes. Read more about them [here](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-stoves-guide/). - **Cooking pots/pans:** See [my recommendations here](https://momgoescamping.com/best-camping-pots-problem-camping-cooksets/). - **Non-Breakable Plates, bowls and cups:** Reusable plastic or metal cups and plates are great for this. Do NOT go with disposable ones.  They are terrible for the environment and make a lot of annoying trash. - **Utensils:** This includes forks, spoons, and knives for eating as well as any utensils you’ll need for cooking (spatula, wooden spoons, etc.) - **Cleaning Supplies:** Sponge, dish soap, scrub brush - **\*Cutting Board:** Especially if you plan on buying fresh foods like veggies from the store for making meals - **\*Plastic tubs/sinks:** This is good for holding all of your dirty dishes so you can carry them to the campground’s cleaning station.  Read about the [best solutions for camping sinks](https://momgoescamping.com/portable-camp-sinks/) here. - **\*Large Bowls:** For holding salad or other foods. I usually will just use one of my cook pots for this instead of bringing a separate bowl. - **\*Zip plastic bags and/or Tupperware containers:** Very useful for putting snack foods into. - **\*Napkins/paper towels:** I don’t bring these because they are bad for the environment. But they are useful for cleaning hands. - **\*Cooler:** Useful if you are getting perishable foods from a nearby supermarket or want to keep foods you cooked fresh for longer. - **\*Pot holder:** Depends on the type of pot you brought. You can just use a towel for this in a pinch. - **\*Can opener** ![camping cooking setup](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/IMG_3163.jpg "camping cooking setup - Mom Goes Camping")*A very minimalist camp kitchen setup* --- ## Camping Food: Most campgrounds will have a small store where they sell (overpriced) food items.  They may also have a restaurant.  Even if you plan on eating in restaurants a lot, I’d still recommend bringing some of your own food. **Don’t know what to eat? See these [easy camping meal ideas](https://momgoescamping.com/easy-camping-meals/).** - **Snacks:** LOTS and LOTS of snacks. Granola bars, cookies, and dried fruit make great camping snacks. Of course, s’mores ingredients too! - **Instant Coffee, Powdered Milk, Sugar:** There are also these [ways to make coffee while camping](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-coffee/) - **Tea:** If you drink this instead of coffee. - **Salt, spices, herbs, condiments:** Essential! Lots of the food you can buy at campgrounds is bland. - **Instant or Quick-Cooking Meals:** I dehydrate meals for camping. Then I just have to add water and have a tasty, healthy meal.  You can also get things like ramen packs, couscous mixes, instant soups, and other quick-cooking meals.  See this post for [meal ideas](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-food/). - **Lots of baggies:** For keeping your meals organized ![campground store](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/5571363879_fa6ae56e00_z.jpg "campground store - Mom Goes Camping")*This is what a typical campground store looks like* --- ## Camping Essentials: - **Backpack:** For carrying stuff on day trips. - **Flashlight, headlamp, and/or Lantern:** I prefer [headlamps](https://momgoescamping.com/choosing-headlamp/) because they allow you to have both hands free while walking around camp.  Lanterns are good for ambient lighting at the campsite. - **Extra batteries:** For your flashlights or other gear - **\*Portable power bank:** For keeping phones charged for maps and photos. See these [best lightweight power banks](https://momgoescamping.com/best-backpacking-power-banks/). - **\*String lights:** Not essential, but kids love them and they make it easy to find your site in the dark. - **Lots of plastic bags:** These are for trash, dirty laundry, wet stuff… You’ll need LOTS of them. - **Carabiners:** These are incredibly useful for things like hanging your flashlight inside the tent, attaching stuff to your backpack, making a clothesline… - **\*Rope:** This is also very useful, especially for making a clothesline. - **Lighters/Matches** - **Map, Compass and/or GPS:** Great for exploring the area and also teaching kids navigation - **Whistle:** In case you get lost. Make sure each kid has one and you’ve talked about [what to do if you get lost](https://momgoescamping.com/lost-in-the-woods/). - **Big water bottles/water jugs:** Campgrounds will have a place where you can get water. But you don’t want to have to walk there every time you need water for something.  So get a few big bottles that can be filled and kept at your campsite. - **Smaller water bottles:** These are the bottles you’ll actually be drinking from and taking on day trips. - **\*Water filter:** Lots of campgrounds have water but it isn’t potable (drinkable). You can use a water filter to make it safe to drink.  I use a [Sawyer Mini](https://momgoescamping.com/sawyer-mini-water-filter-review/). Also see these [best water filter and purifier options](https://momgoescamping.com/best-backpacking-water-filters-purifiers/). - **\*Camping knife/survival knife:** You won’t actually need this at a campground, but it can be useful for things like shaving a marshmallow stick or other “bushcraft” tasks. - **\*Axe/hatchet:** If you buy firewood, you’ll probably need a hatchet to cut it into kindling. More on [how to properly use a camping hatchet here](https://momgoescamping.com/best-camping-hatchets/). - **\*Giant Tarp:** This is great if you want to make a covered area to block sun or [stay dry if it rains](https://momgoescamping.com/what-to-do-when-it-rains-when-camping/). - **\*Dust pan and broom:** If you are messy, this is useful. You can clean your campsite so you don’t end up with a zillion ants. ![camping tarp setup](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/3881822636_d7143e06d0_z.jpg "camping tarp setup - Mom Goes Camping")*This tarp setup is great for rainy days Tarps are also great for blocking sun* --- ## Hygiene Items: - **Bag for holding all of your hygiene items:** Makes it easier to carry all of the stuff to the campground bathroom. Preferably a waterproof bag. - **Toilet Paper:** Lots of campgrounds don’t have TP in the bathroom! - **Wet Wipes:** Good for cleaning your hands and body when you don’t feel like walking to the camp bathroom. - **Toothbrush, toothpaste** - **Period stuff:** I use a menstrual cup. Note that you can’t always put tampons in outhouses.  Read about [dealing with your period while camping](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-period/) here. - **Hair brush, comb, hair bands, headbands** - **Shampoo** - **Hand soap** - **Hand sanitizer** - **Shower sandals:** Campground showers are nasty. You’ll want some flip flops or other waterproof sandals to wear in the showers. - **Towels:** Preferably the quick-dry camping towels. - **Washcloths** - **Scent-free Deodorant:** Nothing with perfumes or you will attract insects! - **\*Razor:** I just don’t shave for the time I’m camping. 😉 - **\*Small mirror:** In case you care what you look like while camping. - **\*Nail clippers** ![campground bathroom](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/McKinney-Campsite-Restrooms_800p-001.jpg "McKinney Campsite Restrooms_800p 001 - Mom Goes Camping")*Heres what a typical campground bathroom looks like Youll probably want shower shoes* --- ## First Aid Items: - **Bug spray** - **Sunblock** - **Lip balm with UV protection:** I always forget this and end up with sunburn on my lips. - **Personal medications/vitamins** (keep them in a waterproof bag) - **Tick remover:** See these [best tick removal tools](https://momgoescamping.com/tick-removal-tools-humans/). - **Paper list of emergency contacts:** In case your phone dies or there’s no signal. - **First aid kit: S**ee a complete [first aid kit checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/travel-first-aid-kit-list/) plus explanation of items here. ![camping first aid kit](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/travel-first-aid-kit-checklist-1024x683.jpg "travel first aid kit checklist - Mom Goes Camping") --- ## Camping Clothing: The key to camping clothing is to **dress in layers.** This allows you to get more out of the same clothing. Here’s what I bring (adjust depending on temperature of where you are going; take into consideration that it may get very cold at night). My rule is to pack for the coldest hour of the trip, not the warmest. It is common for temperatures to swing 20 to 30 degrees between the afternoon and early morning. - **Base layers, top and bottom:** Synthetic or wool materials are best - **Mid layer**: Worn over the base layer for warmth, such as a fleece jacket or hoodie.  If it’s really cold, you may want mid-layer pants, such as a fleece pants. - **Shell jacket:** A softshell jacket and/or rain jacket - **\*Rain pants**: Probably essential if you are going camping in spring or late fall. Also great for little kids. - **Sports bra and underwear** - **Socks**: I always bring extras of these - **Camp sandals and/or shower shoes** - **Sneakers** - **\*Boots**: If you are going hiking and/or somewhere with tough terrain. If I bring boots, then I don’t bother bringing sneakers. - **Hat with a brim:** Keeps rain and sun out of your eyes - **Pajamas** - **One full extra outfit per kid:** Kept in a separate bag for the inevitable mud puddle or creek fall. - **\*Swimsuit and swim towel** - **\*Sunglasses** --- ## Other Camping Items: - **Camera** - **Glasses case**: If you wear glasses - **\*Entertainment**: Books, deck of cards, a ball or frisbee, glow sticks, etc. - **\*Marshmallow roasting sticks:** See these [best marshmallow sticks](https://momgoescamping.com/best-marshmallow-sticks/). - **\*Notebook and pens:** - **\*Field guides** - **\*Device chargers:** Most campgrounds have electric hookups for an additional cost. Or bring a [portable solar panel](https://momgoescamping.com/best-portable-solar-panels-camping/). - **Copies of reservations/permits** - **Cash:** Some campground offices and firewood stands don’t take cards. - **Offline maps:** Download maps to your phone or print directions. Cell service is often spotty near campgrounds. - **Backups of important documents:** Like health insurance info, drivers’ licenses or passports. These can be kept on the cloud or on a secure USB. - **\*Small hip pack (fanny pack):** Great for holding your wallet and important documents while hiking or at camp. You don’t want to leave these in your tent.  Some campgrounds do have safes where you can leave these things. - **\*Camp chairs and table:** In case you don’t like sitting or eating on the ground. Check to see if the campground has picnic tables. - **\*Picnic blanket** - **\*Bear canister:** Some campgrounds in bear territory require these.  Read about bear canisters [here](https://momgoescamping.com/bear-canister-vs-ursack/). --- ## Camping Items for Very Young Children: - **Portable Potty:** This way your kid doesn’t have to sit on the gross campground toilets. It is also good for little kids who might not make it to the campground bathroom on time. - **Stroller:** Helpful as a place for your kid to take naps as well as getting around. See these [best off-road strollers](https://momgoescamping.com/best-strollers-for-hiking-jogging/). - **Child carrier:** Great for day trips, especially if you plan on doing any hiking. Read about [hiking child carriers](https://momgoescamping.com/tips-child-hiking-carriers/) here. - **Portable high-chair:** This will make feeding your child much easier. See these [best baby camping chairs](https://momgoescamping.com/the-only-baby-camping-chairs-worth-buying/). - **Pack-n-play or other portable play pen:** This is great for toddlers. They can play inside it while you do camp tasks without you having to worry about them running/crawling off. - **Baby bed:** These are useful for keeping your baby safe in the tent. More in this post about [baby camping beds](https://momgoescamping.com/baby-camping-beds/). - **Mosquito net:** Because there really aren’t any other good [ways to keep mosquitoes off of a baby](https://momgoescamping.com/best-baby-safe-mosquito-repellents-camping/). - **Baby sleeping bag:** Rated for the coldest night of your trip. See these [best baby sleeping bags for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/best-baby-sleeping-bags-camping/). - **Familiar comfort item:** A favorite blanket or stuffed animal makes sleeping somewhere new much easier. - **Toys:** You’ll realize that you don’t need that many toys when you have nature to play with. Some shovels and buckets are nice at the beach. **Camping with little kids? Read:** - [Camping with a baby checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-with-baby-checklist/) - [Advice for camping with a baby](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-with-baby/) - [How to go camping with a toddler](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-with-toddler/) ![Pack n Play for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/2819537185_829605e7db_z.jpg "2819537185_829605e7db_z - Mom Goes Camping")*Pack n plays make a safe play area for baby while camping* --- ## Camping Items for Older Kids: - **Their own headlamp:** Kids love having their own light, and it saves you from sharing yours all night. See these [best headlamps for kids](https://momgoescamping.com/best-kids-headlamps/). - **Their own camp chair:** Otherwise they’ll steal yours! - **Small backpack:** For carrying their own water, snacks, and a comfort item on hikes. - **\*Swimsuit:** If there’s a lake, river, or beach nearby. - **\*Bikes or scooters:** If the campground allows them. --- ## Gear Priorities by Age | Age | Don’t skip | Easy to skip | |---|---|---| | Babies (0 to 12 months) | Temperature-rated sleep gear, feeding supplies, playpen | Toys and entertainment | | Toddlers (1 to 3 years) | Extra clothes, comfort item, playpen or other containment | Elaborate activities | | Kids (4 to 10 years) | Their own headlamp, their own chair, warm layers | Electronics | | Teens (11+) | Let them make and pack their own list | Hovering! | **Don’t forget that you can [get the printable version of this checklist here](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/family-camping-checklist-momgoescamping.pdf).  Happy camping!** --- ## Family Camping Checklist FAQ ### What is the most commonly forgotten item on a family camping trip? Extra socks, followed closely by a backup light source. Wet feet ruin a trip fast with kids, so pack at least two spare pairs per person and an extra headlamp or flashlight. ### How far in advance should I start packing for a family camping trip? Start three or four days before you leave. That gives you time to find broken gear, replace dead batteries, and buy anything missing without a last-minute panic. ### How do I organize my packing so I don’t forget anything? Pack by category and use labeled bins or bags: one for the kitchen, one for sleeping gear, one for clothes, one for hygiene. Print this checklist and tick items off as they go into the car. ### How much water should I bring camping with kids? Plan on about 1 gallon per person per day, and more if it’s hot or you’ll be hiking. Even if the campground has water, a few big jugs at your site saves a lot of walking. ### What temperature sleeping bag do I need for family camping? Choose a bag rated 10 to 15 degrees below the coldest temperature you expect. This matters even more for babies and small kids, who can’t tell you they’re cold. ### Should I pack differently for tent camping and RV camping? Yes. Tent camping needs this full list. In an RV you can skip things like the tent and sleeping pads, but you’ll need RV-specific gear such as leveling blocks, a sewer hose, and a surge protector. --- Image credits:  *“[D0422 Grand Canyon\_Campsite at Mather Ca](https://www.flickr.com/photos/grand_canyon_nps/4691256776/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Grand Canyon NPS](https://www.flickr.com/people/grand_canyon_nps/) “[Striking Camping Trip #1](https://www.flickr.com/photos/grahamandsheila/2819537185/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Graham and Sheila](https://www.flickr.com/people/grahamandsheila/)* “[myself](https://www.flickr.com/photos/sri-h/2866427203/)” ([CC BY-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/2.0/)) by [tinisanto](https://www.flickr.com/people/sri-h/) “[Grand Canyon North Rim Camper Store 0046](https://www.flickr.com/photos/grand_canyon_nps/5571363879/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Grand Canyon NPS](https://www.flickr.com/people/grand_canyon_nps/) “[Rainy Campsite](https://www.flickr.com/photos/suckamc/3881822636/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [Martin Cathrae](https://www.flickr.com/people/suckamc/) “We arrive at Seneca rocks campground, an” https://www.flickr.com/photos/dionhinchcliffe/34635055210/ ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [dionhinchcliffe](https://www.flickr.com/people/dionhinchcliffe/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear, Camping with Kids **Tags:** babies, family, kids, toddlers --- ### [18 Easy Camping Meals: Delicious, Kid-Friendly Recipes](https://momgoescamping.com/easy-camping-meals/) **Published:** July 17, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Cooking can be a fun task while outdoors. However, a lot of people go overboard when it comes to camping meals. They underestimate how much effort it can take to make a meal and end up spending all their time on meal prep (not to mention all the extra time spent cleaning multiple bowls and utensils). All those Instagram-perfect pictures of gourmet camping meals certainly don’t help in setting realistic expectations of what camping meals should look like! While it’s perfectly okay to plan for some elaborate meals, you are probably better off opting for simple camping dinners, especially if you are camping with kids. Here is what you need to know about camping food plus ideas for super easy camping meals which are tasty, kid-friendly and mostly healthy. ## The Secret to Easy Camping Meals: Prep at Home The less cooking you do at camp, the more time you get to actually enjoy it. I do almost all of my chopping, measuring, and mixing at home before we leave. - Chop onions, peppers, and other veggies and store them in zip bags. - Pre-mix pancake batter (just the dry ingredients if you won’t have a cooler). - Portion meat into meal-sized bags and freeze it. Frozen food doubles as an ice pack and thaws just in time to cook. - Label each bag with the meal it’s for so nobody is digging through the cooler at dinnertime. ## Some Rules for Planning Camping Meals ### Aim for One Pot Meals Fewer pots means less work and cleanup. I do use two pots sometimes, but only if I am making a sauce to go over something easy like instant mashed potatoes, rice, or couscous. ### Use Ingredients Which Don’t Require Refrigeration Unless you have a [thermoelectric cooler](https://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=bf80db28af76eb0d93a0420a1330d9e5&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=sporting&keywords=thermoelectric%20cooler%20camping), you will need camping meals from ingredients which don’t require refrigeration. So forget about grilling steaks, fish, fresh veggies… unless it’s for the first night of camping when you’ve still got ice in your cooler. **There are plenty of non-refrigerated foods you can bring camping, such as:** - **Pouches of tuna or chicken** - **Canned meat, tuna, or shrimp** - **Freeze-dried meat** - **Beans and lentils** - **Salami** - **Jerky** (cook it for a few minutes to make it soft) - **Veggies, canned or freeze-dried** - **Cheese, gravy, and sauce mixes** - **Textured vegetable protein (TVP)** - **Silken tofu** - **Hard cheeses** (these can last a few days out of the fridge) Some fresh foods can also survive without refrigeration, such as onions, potatoes, and carrots. Tomatoes, zucchini, peppers, etc. can also last a few days out of the refrigerator if the weather isn’t insanely hot. ### Don’t Count on Campfire Cooking Campfire cooking is really fun and you can make an awesome fire-grilled meal while camping (here’s [how to do it](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-cook-over-a-campfire/)). But it actually takes a LOT of work to cook over a campfire. First you’ve got to make a large fire then wait for it burn down so you’ve got enough hot coals for cooking. Then the actual cooking takes forever, which isn’t ideal if you need to watch over children or don’t have friends to share the task with. Even if you do want to try campfire cooking, bring a camp stove as a backup in case it rains. Which brings us to… ### Count on Rain Weather can change very quickly while camping, regardless of what the forecast says. So always plan your camping meals as though there might be rain. That means choosing some meals which don’t require cooking (like sandwiches or canned meals) and definitely not relying on campfire cooking. **Read:** - **[What to do if it rains while camping](https://momgoescamping.com/what-to-do-when-it-rains-when-camping/)** - **[How to make a fire in the rain](https://momgoescamping.com/make-fire-rain/)** - [Complete Guide to Camping in the Rain](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-in-the-rain/) - [Camping Breakfast Recipes that Kids Will Love](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-breakfast-recipes/) - [Backpacking Meal Ideas](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-meal-ideas/) ### Choose Quick-Cooking Foods Unless you are camping in a large group, don’t bring foods like dry beans or whole grains. These simply take too long to cook. You will NOT have fun on your camping trip if you’ve got to stand over a pot of beans for an hour, stirring constantly. **Some of my favorite quick-cooking camping foods are:** - **Instant rice** - **Instant mashed potatoes** - **Couscous** - **Pasta** - **TVP (textured vegetable protein)** - **Canned foods and meals** - **Freeze-dried foods** ### Vary Your Carbs and Proteins To make easy camping meals more exciting, make sure you are changing up your carbs and proteins. For example, you could have pasta and pouched chicken one night and instant mashed potatoes with canned sausages the next night. Add some veggies or salad on the side and you’ve got a healthy meal which takes less than 30 minutes to prepare. - **Carb Ideas:** Pasta, instant mashed potatoes, couscous, instant rice, ramen, bread, crackers, tortillas - **Protein ideas:** Chicken, beef, tuna, sausages, hot dogs, tofu, TVP, eggs, refried bean mixes, hummus mix ### Don’t Forget to Bring Spices Even the most simple camping meals can be turned into something gourmet by adding spices and seasoning mixes. If you are going on a longer camping trip, make sure you bring several different spice mixes so all your food doesn’t end up tasting the same. ## Easy Camping Breakfasts Breakfast at camp should be fast. Kids wake up hungry, and nobody wants to wait an hour for the fire to get going. ### Make-Ahead Breakfast Burritos Scramble eggs with cheese and sausage at home, roll them in tortillas, wrap each one in foil, and freeze. At camp, warm them on the grill rack or in a skillet. They’re my go-to for the first morning. ### Pancakes from a Squeeze Bottle Mix the batter at home and pour it into a clean squeeze bottle. At camp you just shake and squeeze it onto the griddle. No bowls, no whisk, and almost no cleanup. ### Breakfast Pizza Spread yogurt on naan or pita and top it with pre-cut fruit and a drizzle of honey. It needs no cooking at all, which makes it perfect for rainy mornings. ### Canned Cinnamon Rolls Pop open a can of cinnamon rolls and bake them in a Dutch oven or a covered skillet over low heat. My girls think this is the best part of any camping trip. *Want more ideas? See these [camping breakfast recipes kids will love](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-breakfast-recipes/)* ## Easy Camping Lunches Lunch is usually on the go when we’re camping, so I keep it simple and mostly no-cook. ### Meat and Cheese Roll-Ups Wrap a slice of lunch meat around a string cheese stick. Add a little mustard or hummus if your kids like it. They’re easy for little hands to eat on the trail. ### PB&J (or PB&Honey) Tortillas Tortillas hold up much better than bread in a backpack or cooler. Spread with peanut butter and jelly, or use honey squeeze packets, and roll them up. ### Chips and Dip Plate Set out chips or crackers with hummus, guacamole, or bean dip, plus some carrot and cucumber sticks. It feels like a treat but takes two minutes. ### Leftover Taco Nachos If you made tacos the night before, pile the leftover meat on chips, add cheese, and warm the whole thing in a skillet. Leftovers you don’t have to think about are the best kind. ## Easy Camping Meal Ideas ### 1. Tortillas [![camping tortillas](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/tortillas-1.jpg)](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/tortillas-1.jpg)[![making camping tortillas](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/tortillas-campfire.jpg)](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/tortillas-campfire.jpg) Tortillas are a great easy camping meal because you can fill them with almost anything. For an ultra-quick camping dinner, fill with canned refried beans, cheese, and some jarred salsa. If you have more time, grill some meat over the fire and heat up your tortillas too. Tortillas are also great for breakfast with eggs and sautéed veggies. *Check out these [27 backpacking tortilla ideas](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-food/)* ### 2. Pita Pizzas [![camping pizzas](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/pita-pizzas.jpg)](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/pita-pizzas.jpg) Pitas + sauce + cheese + salami. You’ve got a camping meal in less than 15 minutes and the kids will be happy. You can even have fun heating them over a fire in a cast-iron skillet if you want. ### 3. Hot Dogs [![camping hot dogs](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/hot-dogs.jpg)](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/hot-dogs.jpg) Did you know there are hot dogs which don’t require refrigeration? One option is to choose canned hot dogs or sausages. I am also able to find veggie hot dogs which don’t need to be refrigerated in my local health food store. The great thing about hot dogs for camping is that you can cook them over the fire on sticks, grill them, boil them in your camping pot, or sauté them with veggies for a more complete meal. *Don’t forget to bring condiments!* For a fun twist, wrap hot dogs in crescent roll dough and cook them on a stick over the fire for campfire pigs in a blanket. ### 4. Spruced Up Mac and Cheese [![camping mac and cheese](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/spruced-up-mac-and-cheese.jpg)](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/spruced-up-mac-and-cheese.jpg)[![camping mac and cheese with tuna](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/spruced-up-mac-and-cheese-2.jpg)](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/spruced-up-mac-and-cheese-2.jpg) Use a box of mac and cheese as your base and then add extras to spruce it up into a more complete meal. The first picture shows mac with edamame and cherry tomatoes. The second is white mac and cheese with peas and tuna. You can also add things like salami, peas, corn, peppers… ### 5. Pasta, Sauce Plus Extras [![camping pasta](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/pasta.jpg)](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/pasta.jpg) One of the easiest camping meals you can make is pasta with jarred sauce. Like with mac and cheese, you can easily spruce it up by adding chicken from a pouch, beans, veggies like fire-roasted peppers, or cheese. ### 6. Foil Pouch Dinners [![camping foil pouch dinners](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/foil-dinner.jpg)](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/foil-dinner.jpg) If you want to cook over a campfire, foil pouches are a great easy solution. You basically put a combination of different proteins and veggies on foil, wrap up the foil, and then cook over a grill rack until the contents are soft. This works best if at least one of the ingredients is “wet” (like tomatoes) as the juices will help cook all of the other ingredients into a soft, succulent meal. The great thing about foil camping dinners is that each person can make their own pouch with whatever they want. Got a pie iron? Try hobo pies. Butter two slices of bread, fill them with pizza sauce and cheese (or pie filling and marshmallows for dessert), clamp the iron shut, and hold it over the coals for a few minutes per side. ### 7. Stews [![beer stew camping meal](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/stew.jpg)](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/stew.jpg) Stews are great when making camping meals for larger groups. This stew can be easily made by throwing beef (fresh, freeze-dried, or canned), tomatoes or tomato juice, and veggies like zucchini, peppers, and carrots into a large pot and slow-cooking over the fire. Go ahead and add some beer to the stew too for extra flavor 😀 #### Taking the kids camping for the first time? My “Your Family’s First Camping Trip” bundle has the complete guide, printable packing checklist, and three done-for-you itineraries, everything from booking the site to the drive home. **[Get the bundle](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/1stcampingtrip)** ### 8. Camp Chili ![easy camping chili](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/chili.jpg) Chili is a classic camping meal because it is so easy to make. This one was made with canned meat, beans, tomatoes, onions and mushrooms. ### 9. Loaded Couscous ![camping couscous](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/couscous.jpg) I love couscous for camping because it cooks up in just two minutes. You can add all sorts of things to it to make it a complete meal. This photo shows couscous with beans and sautéed red peppers. You could also add proteins like chicken, sausage, or chickpeas and veggies like tomatoes or zucchini. ### 10. Tuna Melts [![camping tuna melt](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/tuna-melts.jpg)](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/tuna-melts.jpg) Add a slice of cheese on top of bread or rice cakes. If it’s hot, let the sun melt the cheese a bit. Then add tuna from a pouch on top and you’ve got yourself an easy camping lunch. ### 11. Easy Camping Pilaf [![camping pilaf](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/pilaf.jpg)](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/pilaf.jpg) To make pilaf while camping, first sauté onions and garlic in a pan with a bit of oil. Then add the uncooked instant rice and sauté it a bit. This will give it a toasty, nuttier flavor as well as help the rice keep its texture. Then add water or stock and simmer until cooked. You can add all sorts of veggies or cooked proteins (like canned chicken) to the rice once it is cooked. ### 12. Instant Mashed Potatoes and Meatballs [![camping mashed potatoes and meatballs](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/mashed-potatoes-with-meatballs.jpg)](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/mashed-potatoes-with-meatballs.jpg) Instant mashed potatoes are one of the easiest camping foods. You don’t even need to cook them, just add hot water and let it sit. Open a can of meatballs in sauce and pour over the potatoes and you’ve got a hearty meal almost instantly. ### 13. Potatoes with Instant Sauce or Gravy Mix [![camping potatoes and instant sauce mix](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/mushrooms-with-gravy-or-sauce.jpg)](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/mushrooms-with-gravy-or-sauce.jpg) Here’s another easy way to do potatoes while camping: simply choose a protein and a packet of instant sauce to put over the potatoes. In this photo, the potatoes are served up with pouched salmon and instant cheddar sauce. I also love potatoes with instant gravy on them. ### 14. Shakshuka [![camping shakshuka](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/shakshuka.jpg)](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/shakshuka.jpg) Shakshuka is a Middle Eastern dish which is ridiculously easy to make. You basically sauté some onions and peppers, pour a can of crushed tomatoes into your pot, and then crack some eggs into it. The eggs poach in the tomatoes. Here’s a good [recipe](https://www.outdoorappetite.com/food/shakshuka-recipe-camping) explaining how to do it. ### 15. Falafel from Instant Mix [![camping falafel](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/falafel.jpg)](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/falafel.jpg) I love falafel and it is one meal that my kids don’t complain about. To make easy camping falafel, you can get instant mixes. Just add water, let it absorb, and then form into balls. Sauté in your camping pan until golden and serve with instant hummus, pita bread, and salad. ### 16. Fancy Ramen [![camping ramen](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/ramen.jpg)](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/ramen.jpg) Ramen by itself isn’t exactly healthy or exciting, but you can easily turn ramen into a gourmet camping meal by adding some extras. The possibilities are endless. I like to add shelf-stable tofu, miso paste and scallions. Or sometimes I’ll cook ramen with freeze-dried broccoli and add peanuts for protein and crunch. I’ve heard of people going really gourmet with their ramen by adding things like canned shrimp. ### 17. Grilled Corn on the Cob [![camping grilled corn](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/grilled-corn.jpg)](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/grilled-corn.jpg) Corn on the cob isn’t exactly a meal by itself, but it is one of the easiest camping side dishes to make over a fire. The great thing is that corn on the cob doesn’t need to be refrigerated, so if it rains or you simply don’t feel like campfire cooking, you can grill the corn up another night instead. ### 18. Instant Soups and Meals Don’t feel like you have to go crazy cooking fancy meals while camping. It’s perfectly okay to go the easy route and just pop open some instant meals from boxes or cans. If the weather gets crappy or you come back to camp from a hike later than expected, you’ll be glad you took the easy route! *See these [best-tasting freeze dried backpacking meals](https://momgoescamping.com/best-backpacking-meals/)* ## Easy Camping Snacks and Desserts - **S’mores dip:** Melt chocolate chips in a cast iron skillet, top with mini marshmallows, and toast until golden. Dip graham crackers right in. - **Trail mix bar:** Set out bowls of nuts, raisins, pretzels, and chocolate candies and let kids build their own bag. - **Fruit leather and dried fruit:** These need no cooler and survive being squished in a pocket. - **Pre-cut fruit and veggie sticks:** Prep them at home so they’re ready to grab. ## Easy Camping Meals FAQ: ### What is the easiest meal to make while camping? Tortillas with canned refried beans, cheese, and jarred salsa. No cooking is required if you eat them cold, five minutes if you want them warm. Instant mashed potatoes with canned meatballs in sauce is a close second: just add boiling water, open a can, and you’re done. Both work on a camp stove, over a campfire, or in the rain when neither sounds appealing. ### What camping food doesn’t need refrigeration? A lot more than most people expect. Canned and pouched meats (tuna, chicken, salmon, meatballs), salami, hard cheese, instant rice, couscous, pasta, crackers, tortillas, instant mashed potatoes, nut butters, dried beans, instant hummus mix, and falafel mix all last without a cooler. Fresh onions, potatoes, carrots, and tomatoes also hold up for several days without refrigeration in mild weather. ### How do you plan camping meals for kids? Keep it simple and let them choose. The biggest mistake parents make is planning ambitious meals and then discovering that tired, hungry kids won’t eat something unfamiliar. Test every new meal at home first. Let kids pick at least one meal each. Bring snack foods they love and divide trail mix into per-day bags so favorites don’t disappear on day one. ### Is it better to cook on a camp stove or campfire while camping? Camp stove for reliability, campfire for fun. Campfires take significant time to build and burn down to cooking coals, which is not ideal when hungry kids are circling. Use a camp stove for everyday meals and save the campfire cooking for foil dinners and s’mores when you have time to enjoy the process. ### How do you keep camping food from going bad? Plan around what doesn’t need refrigeration for anything past night one. For fresh foods that do need cold, use a quality cooler with block ice rather than cubed, since it lasts significantly longer. Keep the cooler out of direct sun, don’t open it more than necessary, and never leave any food (including snacks, sunscreen, or toothpaste) out overnight in areas with wildlife. ### Can I prep camping meals ahead of time? Yes, and it’s the single best way to make camp cooking easier. Chop veggies, mix pancake batter, and portion and freeze meat at home. Frozen meals like breakfast burritos also help keep your cooler cold. ### How much food should I pack for a family camping trip? Plan for bigger appetites than at home, since kids burn a lot of energy outside. I always pack one extra easy meal, like instant soup or a box of mac and cheese, in case a trip runs long or a meal goes wrong. See my guide on [how much food to pack](https://momgoescamping.com/how-much-food-pack-backpacking/) for more. **What are your favorite easy camping meals? Let us know in the comments.** *Image credits:* *“[humble camp dinner](https://www.flickr.com/photos/betsian/444952384/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Betsian](https://www.flickr.com/people/betsian/),* *“makin’ food on da fire pit” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [nayrb7](https://www.flickr.com/people/nayrb7/),* *“[camping breakfast, Collins style](https://www.flickr.com/photos/3n/3742651199/)” ([CC BY-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/2.0/)) by [3n](https://www.flickr.com/people/3n/),* *“[Allagash Wilderness Waterway, Maine](https://www.flickr.com/photos/jackheddon/861412312/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [jack heddon](https://www.flickr.com/people/jackheddon/),* *“[veggie dogs and onions](https://www.flickr.com/photos/12375275@N07/2733089771/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [rock.paper.scissors.](https://www.flickr.com/people/12375275@N07/),* *“[tuna noodle dinner](https://www.flickr.com/photos/badenton/17317632950/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [badenton](https://www.flickr.com/people/badenton/),* *“[We poshed up our KD](https://www.flickr.com/photos/ruthanddave/7244480464/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Ruth and Dave](https://www.flickr.com/people/ruthanddave/),* *“[Tasty camping dinner](https://www.flickr.com/photos/mrlerone/2591759939/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [mrlerone](https://www.flickr.com/people/mrlerone/),* *“[Chicken foil dinner on the grill](https://www.flickr.com/photos/elfsternberg/2657191479/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [elfsternberg](https://www.flickr.com/people/elfsternberg/),* *“[Beef n Guinness stew in the great outdoors](https://www.flickr.com/photos/jennifrog/6157901021/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [jennifrog](https://www.flickr.com/people/jennifrog/),* *“[It’s a Chili Camping Dinner](https://www.flickr.com/photos/cogdog/35293664114/)” ([Public Domain](https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/)) by [cogdogblog](https://www.flickr.com/people/cogdog/),* *“[Bull of the Woods, Camp Kitchen, Day 3](https://www.flickr.com/photos/94801434@N00/6063718189/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [Sistak](https://www.flickr.com/people/94801434@N00/)* ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** food, meals --- ### [Winter Camping Gear Checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/winter-camping-gear-checklist/) **Published:** January 10, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Winter camping brings a lot of challenges and your gear needs to meet these challenges.  Forgetting something could, at best, mean a shortened trip.  At worst, hypothermia and frostbite.  This winter camping gear checklist contains the essentials you need to camp safely *and* comfortably in snowy, wintery conditions as well as some gear recommendations. **New to winter camping?  Read this [winter camping guide](https://momgoescamping.com/winter-camping/).** Note that this list is only for WINTER camping gear. I did NOT include items you might need to bring camping in all seasons (such as a bear bag, toilet paper, food, first aid kit or GPS.  You can see [3-season camping gear checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-checklist-family/) here. ## Winter Sleep Setup - **4-season tent and footprint:** In mild winter weather, you can get by using a 3-season tent. However, if heavy snowfall or winds are expected, you’ll need a more durable 4-season tent. - **Stakes or snow anchors:** If staking the tent into the ground, the stakes need to be made of a tough material (like [these by Vargo](https://amzn.to/2uvQuO0)) so they won’t bend when driving into frozen ground.  Alternatively, bring lightweight poly bags which can be filled with snow/rocks to anchor the tent.  Read: [How to Stake a Tent in Any Condition](https://momgoescamping.com/how-stake-out-tent-instructions/) [![Vargo Titanium Shepherds Hook Stake with Fluorescent Orange Head (6 Pack) | Camping Tent Stakes 0.3 Ounces (8 Grams) 6.5” L x 0.14” D (165 x 3.5mm) Ultralight Durable Tent pegs Model T-117](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/410yziKatCL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001OPKGAO?tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1)These [titanium Vargo stakes](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001OPKGAO?tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) can drive into frozen ground. - **Winter sleeping bag:** It should be rated at least 5 degrees F lower than the temperatures you expect to encounter. Remember to check the *comfort* rating and not the low rating which is often listed by manufacturers. - **TWO sleeping pads:** For winter camping, use a closed cell foam sleeping pad with a self-inflating pad on top of it. Ideally the closed-cell foam has a reflective side for bouncing body heat back towards your body. The combined R-value should be *at least* 5. An R-value of 5 is even better, especially if you aren’t clearing the snow under your tent (you could sink into the snow and cause your ten to collapse!). ![winter sleeping pad system](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/sleeping-pads.jpg "sleeping pads - Mom Goes Camping")Combine a closed cell foam pad with an inflatable pad for warmth when camping in winter such as the [Therm a Rest RidgeRest SOLite](https://amzn.to/483h8Mb) and This silver pad helps reflect heat upwards - **Brush/towel for condensation:** Ice crystals may form on the inside of your tent. Use the brush to wipe them away before they melt and drench you.  Or carry a spare small towel for wiping away condensation.  You still need to vent your tent. - **Tent heater:** This is optional but will make sleeping much more pleasant. Tent heaters range from wood stoves to propane heaters to small candle lantern heaters for backpacking. ![uco candle lantern](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/uco-candle-lantern-copy.jpg "uco candle lantern copy - Mom Goes Camping")The produces a surprising amount of heat from just candles --- ## General Winter Camp Gear - **Dry bags or plastic bags:** Bring more of these than you normal would camping.  Your gear can easily get wet in winter and you’ll need the bags to keep it separate from the dry gear. - **Headlamp/lantern:** Remember it gets dark early in winter! You’ll want lots of light to keep the nights from getting boring and depressing. - **Spare batteries:** Batteries drain faster in cold temperatures, so you’ll need to bring spares. Ideally, use lithium batteries [like these](https://amzn.to/2sSrMXT) because they withstand cold well.  If you must use rechargeables, opt for the [Enloop NiMH LSD batteries](https://amzn.to/48ohTz6) (withstand cold temperatures better than other NiMH batteries). - **Insulated seat:** You don’t want to sit on the cold ground as it will suck the heat out of your body.  Instead, bring an insulated foam pad for sitting on.  If you are bringing a camping chair, put the pad on the chair to prevent heat loss from below. = - **Watch:** You must pay attention to how many hours of daylight are left. --- ## Snow and Ice Gear Some of this winter camping gear might not be necessary, depending on the nature of your trip.  If you aren’t sure, it’s better to play it safe than sorry. - **Shovel:** This is one of the most important pieces of gear for winter camping in snow. You will need it for various tasks including packing down snow before pitching the tent, digging a scat hole, digging up snow to melt for water, creating a wind break, and much more. The [Voile Telepro Avalanche Shovel](https://amzn.to/2QHQseO) is highly recommended. - **Trekking poles with snow baskets** - **Sled for carrying gear** - **Snow shoes or skis** - **Campons or microspikes** - **Ice axe** - **Avalanche transceiver** - **Avalanche pole** - **Snow saw** - **Slope meter** --- ## Clothing and Worn Gear - **Lots of spares:** Bring spare mittens, hats and scarfs.  If possible, bring spares of all other worn gear too! - **Vapor barrier liner (VBL):** This is worn over your base layer to keep your insulating layers from getting wet from sweat. Many people wear latex gloves as VBLs for their hands or use plastic bags for VBLs for their feet. Just note VBLs will make your skin clammy and more prone to blistering, so VBLs should be removed once you stop sweating (stop doing strenuous activity). - **Sunglasses or goggles:** The wind can be vicious in winter, so goggles may be necessary.  They should have UV protection or bring sunglasses since the sun reflecting off snow can cause [snow blindness](https://momgoescamping.com/protecting-eyes-hiking-winter/). --- ## Hands and Feet Also read: How to [Keep Feet Warm](https://momgoescamping.com/keep-feet-warm-hiking-winter/) and [Hands Warm Hiking in Winter](https://momgoescamping.com/winter-hiking-keep-hands-warm/) - **Liner socks:** This is what wicks moisture away from your feet. Ideally bring at least two pairs per day and change them regularly so your feet stay dry. - **Insulating socks:** These should be wool or another thick material which insulates when wet. - **Winter boots:** Your boots are the shell layer for your feet. They should be waterproof and insulated. Check the temperature rating on the boots! - **Gaiters:** You need these even if your boots are waterproof. Snow gets on boots and melts, causing them to get wet. - **Down booties or moccasins:** These are worn in the tent or sleeping bag. Your feet will be happy to get out of your boots after a long day! Also read: [Best Winter Camp Booties](https://momgoescamping.com/best-cold-weather-camp-shoes-booties/) - **Liner gloves:** Like with liner socks, ideally bring at least two liner gloves per day. Swap out as your hands get wet. - **Insulating gloves/mitts:** These will be made out of fleece or wool and are worn over  your liner glove. - **Shell mitts:** These are windproof and waterproof and worn over the insulating gloves/mitts. Many shells have built-in insulating layers so you don’t have to put on two separate layers.  See these [insulated shell mitts](https://momgoescamping.com/best-insulated-shell-mittens/). - **Mitt clips or idiot strings:** It’s very easy to lose mittens when you take them off for camp tasks. Clip them to your jacket! - **Boot bag:** It’s smart to sleep with your boots so they don’t freeze at night. Put them in a waterproof bag so they don’t get your sleeping bag wet and dirty. --- ## Safety and Navigation - **Hand warmers:** Don’t skimp on these. They could save your fingers and toes from frostbite. - **Emergency food:** Like energy gels or chocolate for combating hypothermia - **Sunscreen:** The reflection of sun on snow can be intense. Don’t forget the sunscreen just because it’s winter! - **Balm or Vaseline:** Use this to coat all exposed skin. Otherwise it will get damaged from wind and cold. - **Communication device:** Like the SPOT finder. Read about [emergency communication devices](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-communication-devices/). - **Duct tape:** Or other way of repairing gear such as tents, sleeping bags, and poles. These are more likely to occur in winter so don’t forget this. --- ## Food, Hydration, and Cooking - **Winter water bottle:** Do not bring a non-insulated metal bottle since the lid will freeze shut. Insulated thermoses or durable plastic bottles are better. It will need to have a wide mouth so you can drink without taking your mittens off. See these [best winter hiking water bottles](https://momgoescamping.com/water-bottles-insulators-winter/). - **Bottle insulator:** If your bottle isn’t insulated, you’ll want to insulate it so the water doesn’t freeze. - **Large pot:** The pot should be larger than you normally would bring camping since you will be using it to melt snow. - **White gas stove and fuel:** White gas does better in cold temperatures than propane. Bring 2-3x the amount of fuel you’d normally bring for a warm-weather trip, especially if melting snow for water. - **Wind screen for stove:** You are already going to burn through a lot of fuel on a winter camping trip to heat snow or water for hot drinks.  The wind screen is necessary to help conserve fuel, especially since it gets so damn windy in winter. - **Hot drinks and mug** - **Winter-friendly water treatment method:** Note that many water filters are destroyed if frozen. Purification tablets work slow in cold weather, so UV purification might be best.  See the [SteriPen review here](https://momgoescamping.com/steripen-review/). - **Rubber gloves for refueling:** Liquid fuels can cause frostbite instantly on contact in sub-freezing temperatures.  Wear rubber gloves if you will need to refuel! --- ## Other Items - **Pack-out bag:** You must pack out your toilet paper in winter or burn it. Ideally you should pack out your poo too.  If not, bury it deep and off the trail. - **Pee bottle:** So you don’t have to get out of the tent to pee at night. Ladies – bring a urination device like the Go Girl so you can easily pee into the bottle. - **Morale items:** It gets dark early in winter.  Bring something to lift the mood, like a deck of cards or a book to read. --- Image credit: <https://www.flickr.com/photos/frankyr/7626177634/>, ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Richard Cassan](https://www.flickr.com/people/frankyr/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** checklist, winter --- ### [7 Natural Ways to Prevent Tick Bites](https://momgoescamping.com/natural-tick-prevention/) **Published:** April 30, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Due to global warming, tick habitat range has drastically increased and tick season is much longer.  So, it’s no surprise that tick-borne diseases like Lyme are on the rise.   Parts of the USA, Canada, UK, and Europe have seen an almost tenfold increase in tick diseases over the past decade – and the numbers keep rising. ([1](http://www.vdci.net/blog/lyme-disease-3-reasons-it-is-on-the-rise-in-the-northeast), [2](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5877023/), [3](https://metro.co.uk/2019/07/31/lyme-disease-increasing-rapidly-uk-8000-cases-expected-year-10492679/), [4](https://www.cdc.gov/lyme/datasurveillance/index.html), [5](https://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12889-019-7219-x)) The following methods can help you prevent tick bites naturally.  However, it’s important to understand that they won’t keep ticks completely off of you.  Natural tick prevention methods simply aren’t as effective as chemical tick repellents. While I understand that you don’t want to slather yourself in chemicals, you’ve got to weigh the risks.  **In many areas, the risk of tick-borne disease is worse than the risk of using chemical repellents.**   I recommend using permethrin since it is applied to your clothing and not your skin, so there is little risk of the chemical getting into your body. Permethrin is also more effective than sprays like DEET or picardin. [Read about permethrin here](https://momgoescamping.com/permethrin/). ## Natural Tick Bite Prevention The following natural methods of preventing tick bites can be used by themselves or in addition to a repellent like permethrin.  Don’t forget to do tick checks frequently and carry a [tick removal tool](https://momgoescamping.com/tick-removal-tools-humans/) with you while hiking: The sooner you get a tick off your body, the less likely it is to transmit disease. ### 1. Stay Out of Vegetation ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/161272924_9e7c838dc0_c.jpg "hiking in tall grasses and ticks - Mom Goes Camping")*All of these women were covered in ticks after this walk* During the early spring, nymph ticks are found on low-lying vegetation and piles of leaf or other brush.  These nymph ticks can attach to your feet or ankles and climb up your body.  As the season progresses, the adult ticks are able to move upwards into higher grasses and vegetation. One of the most effective ways to naturally prevent ticks is to simply stay on the trail while hiking or when outdoors. Ideally, you walk in the center of the trail where you are less likely to touch vegetation growing off-trail. **This applies to your dog too.**  Even if you are in a park which allows dogs to go off-leash, you shouldn’t let your dog off the trail. Not only is your dog more likely to get ticks, but off-trail dogs can damage plants, get attacked by animals, or infect wildlife with their waste. Read more about [etiquette when hiking with a dog](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-with-dog/) here. **Tips:** - **Try to use the bathroom before you hike.** If you have to go off-trail to go to the bathroom, try to do it in an area without tall grasses or thick brush. - **Pay attention to where you sit down during breaks.** Instead of sitting on logs surrounded by grasses or leaf litter, consider sitting on a pad in the middle of the trail instead. ### 2. Wear the Right Clothes the Right Way ![pants tucked into socks tick prevention](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/pants-tucked-in-e1588235266312.jpg "pants tucked in - Mom Goes Camping") Ticks can detect your breath, body odor, body heat, and vibrations from your movements.  It doesn’t matter what you wear: they will find you.  However, your clothing can prevent ticks from biting you or at least delay it. **Here’s what to wear to prevent tick bites:** - **Choose light-colored clothes:** This will make it a lot easier to see ticks which get on you so you can remove them quickly. - **Wear long sleeves and pants:** Adult ticks can’t get through your clothes, especially if the fabric has a tighter weave, so they will have to crawl around your clothes looking for skin to bite. This can take a while, which means they might never get a chance to bite before you change your clothes. Nymph ticks are small enough to get through your clothes, but long sleeves and pants can at least delay it for a little bit. - **Tuck your pants into your socks:** This makes it harder for ticks which get onto your shoes to crawl up your legs. Note that nymph ticks can easily get through your socks, so you’ll have to tuck your pants deep enough so they go into your boots. Unfortunately, few people actually do this because it looks so nerdy. Remember being tick-wise is cool. - **Tuck in Your Shirt too:** This is especially important in summer when adult ticks are found in higher vegetation and can get on your torso. - **Don’t wear sandals while hiking:** You should never wear sandals while hiking anyway, but open-toed shoes are especially inviting to ticks. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/bloused-pants.jpg "bloused pants - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/bloused-pants.jpg)*One of the reasons the military blouses their pants into their boots is to keep pests like ticks out* ### 3. Put Your Clothes in the Dryer After going to tick-infested areas, there might be ticks on your clothing which didn’t have a chance to bite yet. Depending on the humidity, ticks can live for days to month on your clothes!  These unattached ticks could linger in your home and bite you later on. You might think that washing your clothes after getting home would kill ticks but, scarily, some ticks can survive your washing machine. **One researcher found that 25% of deer ticks survived his washing machine, even at the hot cycle with laundry detergent used.** ([Source](https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/10/071006083356.htm)) However, ticks are very sensitive to low humidity. An hour on the hot cycle of your dryer will kill any ticks on your clothing. **When you get home:** - **Wash and dry your clothes immediately** - **Or put the clothes in the dryer on the hot setting** - **If you can’t dry the clothes right away,** keep them in a sealed plastic bag until they can go through the wash/dryer cycle. ### 4. Shower After Hiking Because ticks can survive so long under water, showering won’t kill any ticks on your body.  Likewise, showering won’t get rid of ticks attached to your body. However, showering can flush away unattached ticks before they have time to attach to you. You’ll still need to do a tick check after showering though. **Tip:** If you shave (leg, armpits, groin, etc.), do it *before* you go in tick-infested areas.  It’s easier to spot ticks on hairless skin. ### 5. Do Tick Checks Frequently ![tick check](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/tick-removing.jpg "tick removing - Mom Goes Camping") The sooner you check for ticks, the more likely you are to find them before they have time to attach.  Even if they have already attached, ticks must be attached for at least 24-36 hours to transmit Lyme.  The faster you find and remove ticks, the less likely you are to get Lyme. From personal experience, I can tell you that ticks sometimes even take *days* to attach. As a kid, I went with a hike with my family and ended up with over 50 nymph ticks on my body (strangely, no one else in my family had any ticks).  It’s really difficult to find those tiny nymphs.  My dad did daily tick checks and we still found some unattached ticks which we’d missed several days later! This just shows how important it is to frequently check for ticks, and not just right after you get back from a hike or tick-infested area. **To check for ticks:** - **Look for any small dark dots on your body** - **Especially pay attention to creases, like your armpits, behind your knees and groin** - **Have someone look through your hair** - **Use a mirror to check your private areas** ### 6. Essential Oil Tick Repellents A lot of people swear by essential oils as a natural tick repellent. Unfortunately, few of these essential oils have actually been tested or proven effective.  There are only three plant oil ingredients on the [list of registered EPA repellents](https://www.epa.gov/insect-repellents/find-repellent-right-you#searchform). These are repellents which have been proven safe on the skin *and* scientifically proven to be effective. **The natural tick repellents found in EPA-registered products are:** - Citronella - Oil of lemon eucalyptus - Catnip oil This doesn’t mean other essential oils won’t repel ticks; only that there isn’t enough evidence about their efficacy.  Even when they are effective (like the three EPA-listed oils above), they aren’t nearly as effective as a repellent like permethrin against ticks. **You’ve really got to balance your desire to be all-natural with the risk posed by ticks.**  In areas at low-risk for Lyme, it might be okay to go with essential oils.  In high-risk areas, you are probably better off with permethrin. **Read more about [essential oils for ticks](https://momgoescamping.com/essential-oils-ticks) here.** ### 7. Vinegar Vinegar is another natural tick repellent that hasn’t been thoroughly tested. However, a lot of people swear by vinegar for keeping ticks off. To use, mix a solution of 50/50 vinegar and water in a spray bottle.  Spray the solution all over your dog or onto your clothing.  Even if it doesn’t work, apple cider vinegar is a good remedy for dry skin and will give your dog a nice shiny coat. ## Natural Tick Prevention Methods which Are NOT Effective The following natural tick repellents often get hyped up online.  However, studies have repeatedly found that they simply don’t work to repel ticks.  Not only will you waste money using them, but they could give you a false sense of security against ticks.  It’s better to stick to the tried-and-true methods to prevent tick bites. ### Ultrasonic Collars These collars are supposed to repel ticks by emitting ultrasound frequencies.  Studies like [this one](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1770480) show that they do not work, so don’t waste your money. ### Garlic This is another natural tick repellent which gets mentioned a lot, but there is no evidence that garlic repels ticks, regardless of whether you eat it or apply garlic oil to your skin.  Garlic might be effective at keeping away gnats, flies, and mosquitoes, but you really have to apply or eat a huge amount of it.  Decide for yourself whether it’s worth putting up with the stink. ### Tick Wrist Bands You can get wrist bands which have essential oils like citronella on them.  Yes, some essential oils have been proven to repel ticks – but most aren’t very effective.  Further, for essential oils to work, you have to apply them all over your clothes or skin.  Even if wrist bands work against ticks, they’d only keep ticks off of your wrist and not other places around your body. **What method do you use to prevent ticks? Let us know in the comments.** **Also read:** - [**Best Tick Removal Tools for Humans**](https://momgoescamping.com/tick-removal-tools-humans/) - [**How to Remove a Tick Head Stuck in Your Skin**](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-remove-a-tick-head-stuck-in-your-skin/) - [**Essential Oils for Repelling Ticks**](https://momgoescamping.com/essential-oils-ticks) - [**Permethrin Clothing Against Ticks**](https://momgoescamping.com/permethrin/) - **[What Are Tick Tubes?](https://momgoescamping.com/tick-tubes)** --- ###### Resources for this article: <http://gundogforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=29156> https://publichealth.yale.edu/eip/Images/handbook\_tcm405-54964.pdf <https://www.germanshepherds.com/threads/most-effective-essential-oil-concoction-to-prevent-ticks.726826/> <https://bushcraftusa.com/forum/threads/tips-for-avoiding-dealing-with-ticks.174374/> https://publichealth.yale.edu/eip/Images/handbook\_tcm405-54964.pdf <https://www.consumerreports.org/pets/should-you-use-natural-tick-prevention-for-your-dog-or-cat/> <https://www.cdc.gov/ticks/life_cycle_and_hosts.html> <https://nysipm.cornell.edu/whats-bugging-you/ticks/tick-faqs/#natural-products> <https://ucanr.edu/blogs/blogcore/postdetail.cfm?postnum=10461> Image credits: “[A Long Walk](https://www.flickr.com/photos/jeff_godofbiscuits/161272924/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [jeff\_godofbiscuits](https://www.flickr.com/people/jeff_godofbiscuits/) “[Tick Protection + Cool Points](https://www.flickr.com/photos/snaks/5801275873/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [k.steudel](https://www.flickr.com/people/snaks/) (U.S. Air Force photo by Airman 1st Class Brittany Perry) <https://www.usafe.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/254671/air-force-army-partner-to-combat-tick-borne-diseases/> <https://www.aviano.af.mil/Articles/Photos/igphoto/2001261424/>, U.S. Air Force photo by Airman 1st Class Deana Heitzman/Released) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety **Tags:** ticks --- ### [Lyme Disease Rash Photos: Early-Stage, Bull’s-Eye, and Atypical Rashes](https://momgoescamping.com/lyme-disease-rash-photos/) **Published:** August 25, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I recently got Lyme disease for the first time.  Luckily, I was able to catch it early and, other than a few days of extreme fatigue, I am doing fine.  Since my Lyme rash didn’t look like a standard bull’s-eye rash right away, I thought I’d share some photos of my Lyme rash as well as photos of the typical Lyme bull’s-eye rash and atypical rashes. ## Does Lyme Disease Always Form a Rash? According to the [CDC](https://www.cdc.gov/lyme/signs_symptoms/index.html), a rash will form in 70% to 80% of Lyme cases within 30 days of being bit.  The rash usually doesn’t itch and will gradually expand.  However, it’s possible that the rash occurs in more cases but simply wasn’t noticed.  Likewise, it can be very hard for black people and dark-skinned people to notice a Lyme disease rash on their skin. ## What Does a Lyme Disease Rash Look Like? A Lyme disease rash typically has a bull’s eye shape: a red area in the center with a white band around it and another red circle around this.  However, **not all** **Lyme disease rashes look like a bull’s eye.** If any type of rash forms in the days or weeks after getting bit by a tick,  see a doctor! Keep reading to see pictures of Lyme disease rashes, including early-stage and atypical Lyme rash pictures. ## Lyme Disease Rash FAQ: #### How soon after a tick bite does a Lyme rash appear? Usually between 3 and 30 days after the bite, with about a week being typical. My own rash didn’t show up until two weeks post-bite, so don’t assume you’re in the clear after a few days. #### Does a Lyme disease rash itch? Usually not, most Lyme rashes don’t itch or hurt, which is part of why they get missed. That said, mine itched slightly, so an itchy rash doesn’t rule out Lyme either. #### Can you have Lyme disease without a rash? Yes. The rash appears in roughly 70 to 80% of cases, which means 1 in 4 or 5 people with Lyme never notice one. If you develop fatigue, fever, aches, or flu-like symptoms after a tick bite, see a doctor even without a rash. #### What else can look like a Lyme rash? Ringworm, spider bites, cellulitis, eczema, and ordinary bug bite reactions can all be mistaken for early Lyme. The giveaway with Lyme is that the rash gradually expands over days. If a rash near a tick bite keeps growing, get it checked. #### When should I see a doctor? If any rash forms in the days or weeks after a tick bite, or if you develop flu-like symptoms after being in tick habitat, see a doctor. Lyme caught early is treated with a short course of antibiotics, waiting is what makes it complicated. **Also read:** - [Early Signs of Lyme Disease](https://momgoescamping.com/first-symptoms-lyme-disease/) - [Why Does My Tick Bite Itch?](https://momgoescamping.com/tick-bite-itches/) - [Best Tick Removal Tools for Humans](https://momgoescamping.com/tick-removal-tools-humans/) - [How to Remove a Tick Head Stuck in Your Skin](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-remove-a-tick-head-stuck-in-your-skin/) - [Permethrin Clothing for Preventing Ticks](https://momgoescamping.com/permethrin/) --- **Don’t head into the wilderness unprepared!** **Grab your copy of my Printable Camping Cheat Sheets: An Illustrated Manual** [![camping cheat sheets](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/interior-pages-1024x356.jpg "interior pages - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets) [**Click here to access this indispensable resource**](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets) --- ## Early-Stage Lyme Disease Rash Photos ### 17 Days and 22 Days Post Bite Two weeks after getting bit, a small red rash approximately 2 inches across appeared on the stop where a tick had bit me. It was not round and did not look like a bull’s eye.  It actually itched a bit. I went to the lab for a test.  While waiting for the test result, the rash started spreading, which is a sign of Lyme.  I also started feeling tired as hell and my back hurt. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/lyme-disease-17-days-post-bite.jpg "lyme disease 17 days post bite - Mom Goes Camping")*Lyme rash 17 days post bite The rash started noticeably spreading at this point but was not a bulls eye shape*![early lyme disease rash 22 days post tick bite](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/lyme-disease-aug-22-days-post-bite.jpg "lyme disease aug 22 days post bite - Mom Goes Camping")*The Lyme rash at 22 days post bite  If you look closely you can see its starting to form a bulls eye shape  I started antibiotics at this point* --- ### 2 Weeks and 8 Weeks Post Bite Below is another photo of an atypical Lyme disease rash, one week after the tick bite.   It just looks like a generic red rash which could be from any number of things.  Unfortunately, this Lyme didn’t get treated.  The photo afterwards (#4) shows the same rash at 8 weeks post-tick bite.  By then, it actually looks like a bull’s eye but it would have been easier to treat early on! ![Early stage lyme rash](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/944px-Atypical_erythema_migrans_1_week_after_initial_presentation.jpg "944px-Atypical_erythema_migrans_1_week_after_initial_presentation - Mom Goes Camping")*Lyme rash one week post bite*![untreated Lyme rash at 8 weeks](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Approximately_8_weeks_old_erythema_migrans_on_the_thigh.jpg "Approximately_8_weeks_old_erythema_migrans_on_the_thigh - Mom Goes Camping")*Same Lyme rash but now 8 weeks post bite untreated* --- ### Two Weeks Post Bite This Lyme rash does have a darker center but there is no distinct white ring around it. ![Lyme rash two weeks after being bit](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/lyme-rash-early.jpg "lyme rash early - Mom Goes Camping") --- [![small bull's-eye Lyme rash](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/3490267501_58b624148f_c.jpg "3490267501_58b624148f_c - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/3490267501_58b624148f_c.jpg)*Theis early Lyme rash is still small but it starting to get the characteristic bulls eye shape* ## Typical Bull’s-Eye Lyme Rash Photos Below are pictures of the bull’s-eye Lyme rash.  It typically starts out as a small red rash and develops the bull’s-eye shape as it spreads.  You’ll see a concentrated area of red in the center followed by a lighter color red around the edges.  The lighter colored area will expand outwards, leaving a white ring around the center.  As you can see from the pictures, the ring is sometimes splotchy looking and not very distinct. [![Lyme disease rash showing typical bull's-eye shape](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Bullseye_Lyme_Disease_Rash.jpg "Bullseye_Lyme_Disease_Rash - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Bullseye_Lyme_Disease_Rash.jpg) --- [![large bull's-eye shaped Lyme disease rash on arm](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/7209178542_a87a3e0db8_c.jpg "7209178542_a87a3e0db8_c - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/7209178542_a87a3e0db8_c.jpg) --- [![faint Lyme disease rash but still showing typical bull's-eye shape](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/3687318381_ae5923dede_c.jpg "3687318381_ae5923dede_c - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/3687318381_ae5923dede_c.jpg)*The bands on this bulls eye rash arent as distinct but it is still a typical Lyme rash* --- ![bulls eye shaped lyme rash](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/bulls-eye-shaped-lyme-rash.jpg "bulls eye shaped lyme rash - Mom Goes Camping") --- [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/lyme-rash.jpg "lyme rash - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/lyme-rash.jpg) --- [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/lyme-rash-2.jpg "lyme rash 2 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/lyme-rash-2.jpg) --- [![very large expanding Lyme disease rash](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/19498278031_939bb1176f_c.jpg "19498278031_939bb1176f_c - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/19498278031_939bb1176f_c.jpg)*Lyme disease rashes can spread to be over 12 inches across  The photo above is one example of how large the rash can get  The distinct bands of color are a giveaway that its a Lyme rash* --- ## Atypical Lyme Rashes and Less-Distinct Bull’s-Eyes In some cases, the Lyme disease rash doesn’t look like a bull’s eye at all.  It can be blistered (as seen [here](https://www.jabfm.org/content/jabfp/22/2/219/F2.large.jpg)), cause a bluish swelling (as shown [here](https://img.medscapestatic.com/pi/meds/ckb/86/39086.jpg) on the ear), be uniform in color instead of banded, be oval or triangular in shape, or just look like a large red area (as shown [here](https://www.cmaj.ca/content/192/21/E584)).  You can see a picture of atypical Lyme disease on a black man [here](https://www.cdc.gov/lyme/images/rashes/EM-Left-Posterior-Thigh-Popliteal-Fossa.jpg). There are also many instances of Lyme rashes which are considered to be bull’s-eye shaped, but don’t have the white band inside.  The message? **Don’t expect a Lyme rash to look like a perfect bull’s eye.  If you suspect Lyme, contact your doctor!** [![Lyme rash with central crust](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Lymne-ziekte-na-ongeveer-3-weken.jpg "Lymne-ziekte-na-ongeveer-3-weken - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Lymne-ziekte-na-ongeveer-3-weken.jpg)*This rash is considered to be a bulls eye rash even though it lacks a white band in the middle  The photo was taken at three weeks post bite* --- [![circular Lyme rash with red outer ring crust](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/LymeYoungBoy14Oct2009.jpg "LymeYoungBoy14Oct2009 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/LymeYoungBoy14Oct2009.jpg)*This photo of Lyme disease has a distinct outer ring but the center areas isnt an obvious red circle  It could easily be mistaken for psoriasis or eczema* --- [![Lyme disease rash hidden in hair](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Lyme_Disease_Rash.jpg "Lyme_Disease_Rash - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Lyme_Disease_Rash.jpg)*The photo below is a bulls eye Lyme rash  However you cant see the circular shape because it is hidden under the hair The distinct red band is the main sign that its Lyme and not another rash* --- [![Dark atypical Lyme disease rash behind knee](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/2627877149_ee02864258_c.jpg "2627877149_ee02864258_c - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/2627877149_ee02864258_c.jpg)This Lyme rash behind the knee is so dark it almost looks like a bruise  It isnt uniform in color throughout but does have a banded shape ## Late-Stage Lyme Disease Rash I’m not sure how long the boy in the picture went untreated after being bit by a tick, but the Lyme disease is spreading.  He now has multiple rashes on  his body. You can even see some rash on  his finger. [![untreated Lyme disease rash spread to other parts of the body](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/39433244965_f6020b0b11_c.jpg "39433244965_f6020b0b11_c - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/39433244965_f6020b0b11_c.jpg) --- **Remember that Lyme disease is unlikely if you *correctly* remove a tick within 24 hours.  Get yourself a [good tick removal tool](https://momgoescamping.com/tick-removal-tools-humans/) and keep it with you at all times!** --- ###### Image credits: “[EM Rash Lyme Disease](https://www.flickr.com/photos/42138749@N06/39433244965/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Archivemistress](https://www.flickr.com/people/42138749@N06/) “[Lyme Disease Bulls Eye](https://www.flickr.com/photos/cmkalina/2627877149/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [cmkalina](https://www.flickr.com/people/cmkalina/) “[If you see a bulls eye rash, you probabl](https://www.flickr.com/photos/eyewash/19498278031/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [eyewashdesign: A. Golden](https://www.flickr.com/people/eyewash/) “[Lyme disease](https://www.flickr.com/photos/monkeypuzzle/3490267501/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [monkeypuzzle](https://www.flickr.com/people/monkeypuzzle/) “Erythema chronicum migrans / Lyme disease – https://www.flickr.com/photos/skellner/3687318381/” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by no – https://www.flickr.com/people/skellner/ [Bullseye Lyme Rash](https://da.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fil:Bullseye_Lyme_Disease_Rash.jpg), [by Jongarrison](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jongarrison), [Creative Commons BY-SA 2.5 License](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/da:Creative_Commons) [Atypical erythema migrans](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Atypical_erythema_migrans_1_week_after_initial_presentation.jpg), by [Mikael Häggström](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Mikael_H%C3%A4ggstr%C3%B6m) [Lyme young boy](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:LymeYoungBoy14Oct2009.JPG), by [Lamiot](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Lamiot), [CC BY-SA 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/deed.en) [Lyme 3 Weeks](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Lymne-ziekte-na-ongeveer-3-weken.jpg), by [Wilinckx](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/nl:User:Wilinckx),  [CC BY-SA 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/deed.en) . [Lyme Disease Rash](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Lyme_Disease_Rash.jpg),  by [Guswen](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Guswen), [CC BY-SA 4.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.en) [Wanderrote](https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Wanderr%C3%B6te.JPG), by [Faolan](https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Faol "User: Faol"), [CC-by-sa 3.0 / de](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/de/legalcode) [Erythemamigrans](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Erythemamigrans.jpg) by [Warfieldian](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Warfieldian "User:Warfieldian"), [CC BY-SA 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/deed.en) <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Lyme_disease_rash.jpg> by [Whispyhistory](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Whispyhistory), [CC BY-SA 4.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.en), <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Erythema_migrans_%28Wanderr%C3%B6te%29.jpg> by [Ffurler](https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Ffurler&action=edit&redlink=1), [CC BY-SA 4.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.en) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety **Tags:** Lyme disease, ticks --- ### [10 Ways to Keep Ticks Away from Your Campsite](https://momgoescamping.com/keep-ticks-away-from-campsite/) **Published:** June 15, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Ticks love tall grasses, piles of leaves and thick brush.  If your campsite has any of these, then it’s likely there are ticks lurking.  Ticks can’t jump but they can get on you as you walk around camp. Well-groomed campsites probably don’t have many ticks.  However, you can get ticks on you during hikes and bring the ticks back to the campsite with you. While ticks are an inevitable part of camping in many regions, it doesn’t mean you can’t take steps to reduce your contact with ticks.  Here is what you need to know about how ticks get onto your campsite and into your tent, and X smart things you can do to keep ticks away from your campsite. ## 1. Use the Right Tick Repellent Natural remedies like essential oils for ticks don’t do a good job of keeping ticks away. Tick repellents like DEET or picardin which go on your skin work, but are not safe for young children and wear off quickly. For these reasons, the permethrin is considered the best tick repellent for camping. Unlike other tick repellents, permethrin isn’t put on the skin.  Rather, it is put on your clothes and shoes.  A lot of campers also treat their tents and sleeping bags with permethrin.  Ticks die on contact with permethrin so won’t be brought back to camp, even if you hike through tick-infested areas. Read more about [how to use permethrin for ticks](https://momgoescamping.com/permethrin/) . ## 2. Choose a Campground which Sprays for Ticks A lot of campgrounds now regularly spray for ticks.  If you are going camping in an area which is high-risk for Lyme disease, it’s worth choosing one of these campgrounds.  You’ll probably have to call the campground to get this information as it is rarely mentioned on websites. ## 3. Set up Camp in a Clear, Sunny Area Ticks dry up easily so prefer shady, wet areas. While you might also prefer some shade over your tent, you’ll be able to avoid ticks better if you set up camp in a sunny area. They also like to hide in tall grass or piles of leaves, so pitching your tent on a clear area will prevent ticks. ## 4. Bring Chairs Ticks might be lurking on the ground or logs that you sit on.  Consider bringing camping chairs to reduce the likelihood that ticks can climb on you. ## 5. Don’t Take Shortcuts Around Camp Stick to the well-groomed paths instead as these are less likely to have ticks lurking on them.   It’s [bad camping etiquette](https://momgoescamping.com/bad-camping-etiquette/) to take shortcuts anyway. ## 6. Buy Firewood Instead of Gathering It Ticks can easily get on you while you gather wood for your campfire. Consider buying firewood instead.  It’s also [better for the environment](https://momgoescamping.com/best-camping-hatchets/) and required in certain campgrounds. ## 7. Keep Clothing Tucked In One of the best [natural ways to prevent ticks](https://momgoescamping.com/natural-tick-prevention/) is to keep your clothes tucked in. The ticks will have fewer places to climb on to you.  Tucking in also means it takes longer for the ticks to reach skin and bite you. ## 8. Bag Up Dirty Clothing You can easily bring ticks into the tent from your clothing.   To keep ticks from getting into the tent, don’t change your clothes inside the tent. Put dirty clothes inside a sealed plastic bag so any ticks on the clothing are trapped.  Once you get home, wash and dry the clothing. Any clothes that you will wear multiple times when camping (such as hiking pants or jackets) should be treated with permethrin. ## 9. Treat Dogs Before Your Camping Trip Your dog probably won’t be as diligent as you about avoiding places that ticks like.  The ticks from your dog can easily get on you or end up in the tent.  To keep your dog and yourself safe, treat your dog with a tick repellent before your camping trip. You’ll also want to make sure you have your [doggie first aid kit](https://momgoescamping.com/dog-first-aid-kit/) stocked so you can deal with any bites. ## 10. Check for Ticks Often No matter how careful you are, you can’t completely keep ticks out of your campground. Do a thorough check for ticks at least twice per day when camping. I usually do the check when getting dressed in the morning and again in the evening before it gets too dark.  I’ve also gotten into the habit of checking for ticks on obvious places (ankles, armpits, hips) each time I take a break during a hike.  Often, I’m able to spot the ticks before they’ve had time to bite.  If one has latched on, I’ve always got a [tick tool](https://momgoescamping.com/tick-removal-tools-humans/) with me so I can [remove it safely](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-remove-tick/). [![backpacking first aid kit](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/hiking-first-aid-kit.jpg "hiking first aid kit - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/hiking-first-aid-kit.jpg)I keep [these pointy tweezers](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BAYWOFY/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00BAYWOFY&linkId=6605f26d0a606b2317a2896fc0a9426d) in [my camping first aid kit](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-first-aid-checklist/) so I can safely remove ticks without the [head breaking off](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-remove-a-tick-head-stuck-in-your-skin/) **What other ways can you prevent ticks when camping? Let us know in the comments section below.** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety --- ### [How to Keep Bears Away from Campsite: 9 Rules to Stay Safe](https://momgoescamping.com/keep-bears-away-campsite/) **Published:** August 30, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Whenever going camping in bear country, you need to follow some basic safety rules. These rules help ensure that bears don’t come to your campsite looking for food. The following bear rules are not just for *your* safety, they also help the bears stay safe too.  When bears come to campsites because they smell food, they can become *habituated* – meaning they lose their natural fear of humans.  Those bears are more likely to become food-conditioned, have dangerous encounters with humans and be killed as a result. So, whether you are at a campground or backcountry camping, here’s what you need to do to keep bears away from your campsite. --- **Wants lots of crucial camping info at your fingertips? Get my** **Camping Cheat Sheets: An Illustrated Manual** [![camping cheat sheets](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/interior-pages-1024x356.jpg "interior pages - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets) **[Click to get your hands on this PRINTABLE guide!](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** --- ## 1. Choose Your Campsite Wisely When backcountry camping, avoid setting up camp anywhere with signs of bears. Watch out for: - Bear scat - Tracks - Scratches or rubbing on trees - Dig marks ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/bear-scat.jpg "bear scat - Mom Goes Camping")Fresh bear scat full of berries Time to move away quickly[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/bear-marks-on-tree-bark.jpg "bear marks on tree bark - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/bear-marks-on-tree-bark.jpg)Bark rubbed off of a tree is a sign of a bear You also want to avoid areas which have things which might attract bears, such as: - Ripened berry patches - Streams with spawning fish - Direct access to water - Ravens (are a sign that an animal carcass is nearby, which a bear might come to eat) [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/bear-track-near-water.jpg "bear track near water - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/bear-track-near-water.jpg)Dont camp on a path to water or you might have a visitor  ## 2. Use Proper Bear Storage Methods for Food and All Scented Items Bears have the best sense of smell of any animal.  While estimates vary, black bears can pick up smells from at least a mile away and possibly even 20 miles away.  If you have food at camp, chances are that bears will be able to smell it. Almost all human-bear conflicts involve food or other scented attractants.  Thus, it is very important that you store your food and other “smellables” properly against bears while camping. ### What counts as a “smellable”? In addition to food, these items have scents which may attract a bear.  They should be treated as food and stored against bears. - Food wrappers and other trash - Pet food - Clothing that you cooked in or has food residue on it - Flavored beverages, including sports drinks - Toothpaste and toothbrushes (which likely have toothpaste residue on them) - Baby wipes and scented tissues - Insect repellent - Sunscreen - Candles - Soap, detergents, sponges and dish towels - Cough syrup, vitamins and any first aid items with sugar or flavoring - Deodorant, lotion, lip balm, pads, tampons, and other hygiene items ### Bear Food Storage Options Below are some of the options for storing food in bear country and the guidelines to follow for each. #### Lockers: A lot of campgrounds and backcountry campsites in bear country have lockers for storing food.  Always use these if available. - Only remove food from the locker when you are using it. - Leave any food you are not using in the locker. - Immediately return food to the locker when you are done. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/bear-locker.jpg "bear locker - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/bear-locker.jpg)Heres an example of what a bear locker looks like #### Car: Bears absolutely can get into cars!  They know how to open doors and have been known to break windows to get at food inside a car. There are plenty of stories about cars getting destroyed by bears – like a [bear that broke into a car to get the mints inside](https://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/10/bears-destroy-familys-car-to-get-at-mints/), or [this video of a bear destroying a car in Tahoe](https://edition.cnn.com/videos/us/2023/07/24/bear-destroys-car-lake-tahoe-affil-cprog-ldn-vpx.kovr).  And apparently [Yosemite bears prefer minivans](https://news.gaeatimes.com/study-yosemite-bears-prefer-breaking-into-minivans-over-other-cars-207708/) because they have learned that they are most likely to have food inside. Because of this, you should always store your food in a locker or a bear canister. However, in some situations, it’s okay to store food in your car.  For example, if you go on a day trip by car, you can leave food in the vehicle while you get out and explore because it wouldn’t be advisable to leave your bear canister out. When storing food in your car, follow these guidelines. - Check the park rules about food storage before you go. Many parks only let you store food in your car during daylight hours. - All food and smellables should be out of sight. - Windows should be closed and doors locked. - Keep your car clean. Food crumbs can attract bears. - Remove any food wrappers, mints, gum or other smellable items from your vehicle and put these in a locker or bear canister. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/car-damaged-by-bear.jpg "car damaged by bear - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/car-damaged-by-bear.jpg)This car was damaged by a black bear which managed to get in Even the doorframe is bent #### RV: Just like cars, you can sometimes store food in an RV. Even if it is allowed, it’s still better not to store food in your RV since bear-inflicted damage can be expensive. - The RV must be made out of solid material. A bear can easily tear through a cloth pop out on an RV. - Keep food out of sight - Close windows and all vents and lock doors #### Bear Canister Bear canisters are designed so bears cannot open them or even smash them open. They are required when camping in many national parks when food lockers are not available. Note that the bear will still be able to smell your food through the canister. Lots of backpackers have stories of bears swatting at bear canisters for HOURS before giving up.  However, the food stays safe. - Keep bear canister at least 70 yards from your campsite. 100 yards is even better. - The canister should be downwind from camp. - Do not put any ropes on the canister; the bear will be able to carry it away. - Don’t hang bear canisters in trees. The bear could use the hang rope to carry it away. - Put the canister on a flat surface away from water and cliffs. You don’t want the canister to roll away if the bear tries to get in it. - Put reflective tape on the canister or paint it with fluorescent paint. It will make it easier to find in vegetation or dark. - Bear canisters aren’t waterproof. Keep the canister upside down at night so rain won’t get into it. - Consider putting clean pots and pans on top of the bear canister. It will act as an “alarm” if a bear comes to your canister. Then you can try to scare the bear away with an air horn, bear bangers or [other repellents](https://momgoescamping.com/bear-repellent/). [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/bear-canister-alarm-system.jpg "bear canister alarm system - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/bear-canister-alarm-system.jpg)The pots on top of these bear canisters are alarms #### Ursack: Ursack is a food storage bag made out of bulletproof material.  A lot of hikers prefer it because it’s lighter and less bulky than a bear canister.  While Ursack is approved in many national parks, it is not nearly as good as a canister. While bears generally cannot tear apart a Ursack, they can completely squish your food while trying.  Soft or juicy foods can leak out through the sack, thus rewarding the bear.  Thus, they are generally only recommended in areas where there aren’t many bears and the bears aren’t known to be problematic. **For more info, read: [Bear Canister vs. Ursack](https://momgoescamping.com/bear-canister-vs-ursack/)** #### Bear Hang Also called a “bear bag,” this storage method involves hanging food between trees or off of a tree branch in a way that makes it difficult for bears to get.  There are several methods of bear hangs, though the PCT method is considered best.  Bears are incredibly smart creatures and have learned how to cut rope to make food fall! [![PCT bear hang method with steps](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/tshirt-final-1-802x1024.png "tshirt-final (1) - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/tshirt-final-1-e1573736037331.png) **For more info, read:** [**5 Ways to Hang a Bear Bag**](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-hang-a-bear-bag/) ## 3. Consider Odor-Proof Bags Standard plastic zip bags are *not* odor proof. They will do almost nothing to keep bears from detecting your food.  However, there are special odor-proof bags, like the ones by [Loksak](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UTK957K/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00UTK957K&linkId=b18f79bd00e2a4563ad6aa122fe7ba1c), made for camping and hiking. Odor-proof bags by themselves are NOT a good food storage method against bears.  They are not 100% reliable and a bear could still detect the food insid.  Since the bags provide zero protection, the bears could easily get the food, thus contributing to food conditioning in bears. Once they get a taste of human food, they are more likely to come back for more and because a menace. Hence the phrase, “a fed bear is a dead bear.” However, you can **put scented items in the odor-proof bag and then put it in one of the following storage methods.** ## 4. Use the Bear Triangle Also called the “bearmuda triangle”, this involves setting up your campsite to keep smells away from camp.  If a bear does detect your food, at least it won’t come close to your sleeping area. Your shelter is one point on the triangle. The other points are for food storage and cooking. They should be at least 200 feet away from your shelter and downwind. [![bear proofing a campsite](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/bear-proofing-a-campsite-1024x721.jpg "bear proofing a campsite - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/bear-proofing-a-campsite-e1573640045742.jpg) [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/cook-far-away-from-camp.jpg "cook far away from camp - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/cook-far-away-from-camp.jpg)Following the Bearmuda triangle rules Im cooking FAR away from my tent ## 5. Avoid Bringing Heavily-Scented Items All foods are going to have some smell to them which could attract bears.  However, some foods are much more “smellable” than others.  In areas with problematic bears, you probably want to avoid foods such as: - This is actually used as bait in bear studies because bears love it so much! In another study, it was also rated as the highest bear attractant. - Fish - Peanut butter - Sweets, including berry jams and pies Likewise, avoid other highly-smellable items like perfumes, scented soaps and other scented hygienic items.  The fewer smells you have, the better! ## 6. Keep Your Campsite Clean Ideally you shouldn’t bring any smellable items into your campsite at all.  Immediately store food and eat away from camp. However, this isn’t always practical.  You will likely do food prep and eat at your campsite or have a picnic.   So, you’ll need to take these precautions: - Don’t leave food around your camp. Immediately return it to storage. - Do dishes immediately after eating. - Keep food in sight at all times. Never leave it unattended. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/bears-at-camp.jpg "bears at camp - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/bears-at-camp.jpg)This is what happens when you leave foot out in bear country ## 7. Dispose of Greywater Away from Camp Greywater also has odors which could attract bears to your campsite. This includes waste water from: - Washing hands - Brushing teeth - Doing dishes Check the campground rules for disposing of greywater.  When in backcountry where you don’t have sinks, you will need to dig a hole at least 200 feet downwind from camp and dispose of the water in the hole. ## 8. Change Your Clothes After Cooking If you are cooking smelly foods like meat, don’t bring those clothes in the tent.  Take them off and put them with your food storage. ## 9. Dispose of Garage Properly Garage, including food wrappers and leftovers, are one of the main attractants which bring bears to camp.  If there is no garbage disposal where you are camping, you will need to keep garbage in with your food storage until you can dispose of it safely. The National Park Service advises against burning trash.  This is because campfires usually don’t get hot enough to completely burn a lot of trash, thus leaving residue which can attract bears. However, a lot of backpackers do burn their trash occasionally.  If you choose to do this, don’t burn the trash near camp. Ideally do it during the day and then completely bury the remains. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/bear-proof-trash-can.jpg "bear proof trash can - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/bear-proof-trash-can.jpg)Heres what a bear proof trashcan in Yosemite looks like ## Even if you follow these rules… You can still have a bear encounter.  That’s why it is so important that you carry bear spray with you AT ALL TIMES while in bear country.  For more info, read [how to use bear spray](https://momgoescamping.com/bear-spray/). [![udap bear spray](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/udap-bear-spray.jpg "udap bear spray - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/udap-bear-spray.jpg)**Recommended [UDAP two pack of bear spray](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FQWVM2S/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07FQWVM2S&linkId=1c21a61830b0a1d5e867f1151f7c4100)**  --- ###### Resources: <https://www.nps.gov/yose/blogs/bear-series-part-one-a-bears-sense-of-smell.htm> <https://digitalcommons.usu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1726&context=hwi> <https://esajournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/ecs2.1408> <https://academic.oup.com/jmammal/article/103/6/1350/6748717?login=false> <https://jalopnik.com/bear-rips-car-apart-because-thats-what-bears-do-when-pe-1826229351> <https://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/bears.htm> <https://bioone.org/journals/ursus/volume-2020/issue-31e9/URSUS-D-18-00020.2/American-black-bears-and-hair-snares-a-behavioral-analysis/10.2192/URSUS-D-18-00020.2.full> <https://www.leisuremattersviu.com/uploads/1/0/2/3/102377988/greene_michele_final_thesis_2016.pdf> <https://files.dnr.state.mn.us/recreation/hunting/bear/2008bear_report.pdf> ###### Image credits: “[Fruit!](https://www.flickr.com/photos/laura-kali/8920945342/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [OnceAndFutureLaura](https://www.flickr.com/people/laura-kali/), “[Bear Proof](https://www.flickr.com/photos/stillugly/52287943042/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [davidseibold](https://www.flickr.com/people/stillugly/)< “[Bear canisters](https://www.flickr.com/photos/brettlider/3816980898/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [Brett L.](https://www.flickr.com/people/brettlider/), “[Investigating](https://www.flickr.com/photos/catchesthelight/2969545182/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [catchesthelight](https://www.flickr.com/people/catchesthelight/), “[Bear canister at campsite, Yosemite vall](https://www.flickr.com/photos/girolame/9196883918/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [girolame](https://www.flickr.com/people/girolame/), “[this thing edible?](https://www.flickr.com/photos/laura-kali/7277118820/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [OnceAndFutureLaura](https://www.flickr.com/people/laura-kali/), “[mmmm](https://www.flickr.com/photos/laura-kali/7277380366/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [OnceAndFutureLaura](https://www.flickr.com/people/laura-kali/), “[Grizzly Paw Print](https://www.flickr.com/photos/baggis/1282391584/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Travis S.](https://www.flickr.com/people/baggis/), “[bear locker](https://www.flickr.com/photos/boltofblue/1355003405/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Bolt of Blue](https://www.flickr.com/people/boltofblue/) “[Bear Damage0001](https://www.flickr.com/photos/californiadfg/26708147412/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [CaliforniaDFW](https://www.flickr.com/people/californiadfg/) [Bear Safety Posting](https://www.flickr.com/photos/glaciernps/43778298852/)” ([Public Domain](https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/mark/1.0/)) by [GlacierNPS](https://www.flickr.com/people/glaciernps/), “[Berries, but no Bells](https://www.flickr.com/photos/tuchodi/2857686001/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [tuchodi](https://www.flickr.com/people/tuchodi/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety **Tags:** bears --- ### [First Symptoms of Lyme Disease: Real Stories of What Lyme Feels Like](https://momgoescamping.com/first-symptoms-lyme-disease/) **Published:** October 21, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Lyme disease can cause some nasty long term damage if it isn’t treated quickly, so it’s really important to take any early symptoms of Lyme disease seriously.  The most notorious symptom of Lyme is a bulls eye shaped rash.  Not everyone gets a rash from Lyme disease though.  Or, as was my case, the rash was barely visible and didn’t look like a bulls eye (see [Lyme rash pictures](https://momgoescamping.com/lyme-disease-rash-photos/) here). The problem is that other early signs of Lyme resemble other diseases.  And, because Lyme can affect all parts of the body – including the nervous system, muscles, joints, and heart —  some of the early signs can be really strange. Below are some of the first symptoms of Lyme disease as well as real stories of what they felt like from people who were diagnosed with Lyme.  Of course not everyone with these symptoms will have Lyme.  The message is that you shouldn’t ignore these symptoms, especially if you’ve been in tick-infested areas. **Also Read:** - [How to properly remove a tick](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-remove-tick/) - [Best tick removal tools for humans](https://momgoescamping.com/tick-removal-tools-humans/) - [Why does my tick bite itch like crazy?](https://momgoescamping.com/tick-bite-itches/) - [How to remove a tick head stuck in your skin](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-remove-a-tick-head-stuck-in-your-skin/) ## First Symptoms of Lyme Disease ### Flu-Like Symptoms About half of people with Lyme disease will get flu like symptoms. ([1](https://www.healthline.com/health/lyme-disease-symptoms#flulike-symptoms)) This is a pretty generic description of the symptoms though as “flu like” can mean many things.  Here is what those flu like symptoms felt like for people who later got diagnosed with Lyme. > Headaches, feverish, dizzy, back pain, muscle and joint aches, fatigued, etc. This would be on and off, acute symptoms, all showing up separately for the most part. Not really all coming on at once. – there would be huge portions of the day where I felt fine, or just a little off. > Two weeks after the tick fell off I got hit with the acute “flu like” symptoms. This was unlike any other flu I’ve felt in my entire life. I wrote a lot of the symptoms down every time they happened because they were so severe and strange: brain fog, hot skin, migraines, sweaty hands, low body temp, low grade intermittent fevers, air hunger, night sweats, light sensitivity, sound sensitivity, severe malaise, balance problems, phantom smells, involuntary curling of fingers, heart palpitations, rapid heart rate, slow heart rate, chest pains, random pains, restless legs, migrating joint pain. A year in diagnosed with babesia, bartonella and borrelia. Tested positive for mycoplasma later. > My daughter is young and her first symptoms were body aches, headaches and super high fevers, all for a good month before the rash showed up. The rash was also extremely light and could’ve easily been missed had it not been for me paying really close attention to her. ### Cardiovascular Symptoms Lyme bacteria can enter the heart tissue and affect its electrical system. When this occurs, it is called *Lyme carditis.* According to one [study](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4395762/), Lyme carditis occurs in 4-10% of patients and symptoms occur after 21 days on average. > Rapid heart rate and chest pain were my first symptoms. Thought I’m having heart attack but it didn’t go away. I was put to EKG and everything was normal. > Got sent to ER for possible heart attack while suffering what I thought was worst flu ever – ER doc discovered the bullseye rash, which we had thought was a small burn – have been tested for COVID more times than seemingly possible because the symptoms are all the same. > I developed a high heart rate that would cause me to completely collapse after eating. It stinks. ### Anxiety, Depression, Mood Swings and Irritability Lyme disease is known to cause psychological symptoms like anxiety and depression.  These symptoms usually take a long time to appear.  However, there are accounts of people getting bit by ticks and their first symptoms of Lyme including psychological changes.  ([2](https://www.globallymealliance.org/blog/symptom-post-anxiety-and-lyme-disease), [3](https://www.hindawi.com/journals/crips/2015/457947/), [4](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5481283/)) Note that anxiety can also come from Bartonella, a Lyme co-infection. > The Dr. kept telling me I was stressed and having panic attacks. I wasn’t stressed much but they didn’t believe me. I had 100 things going wrong (literally) in my body. Heart beating irregularly, seeing/hearing/smelling things that werent there, felt like someone turned up gravity. > For me, Lyme provoked panic attacks. Never had one prior to Lyme. Treatment thus far has greatly diminished the severity and frequency of the panic attacks. > What was crazy is that once I was feeling anxious about going out, and I accidentally stubbed my toe. I fell on the ground having a full-blown panic attack. When I found out I had Lyme, I was so relieved to understand that my increased anxiety and panic attacks were because of the stress my nervous system was under due to the bacterial infection. ### Light Sensitivity Light sensitivity from Lyme doesn’t just mean your eyes.  Your *skin* can also get sensitive to light. > I was sensitive to incandescent, fluorescent and sunlight. It’s like having a new sense – you can close and cover your eyes, and have a person shine a flashlight on the rash, and you can *feel* it, but it doesn’t feel like heat. It feels like being touched. ### Headaches Headaches are one of the most common early signs of Lyme disease.  In serious cases, Lyme bacteria can get into the brain and cause swelling. > I had Lyme disease, took doxycycline, got a horrible headache that never went away and figured out right before my blood vessels burst in my eyes that it was causing me to have pseudo tumor cerebro which basically means the spinal fluid in my brain was building up. They had to do a spinal tap, ow! Get tested for other tick borne illnesses! I had two co infections! ### Joint Pain Joint pain is often considered a symptom of late-stage Lyme disease.  However, it often shows up in the early stages as one of the first symptoms. > No target rash but really sore joints and incredibly uncomfortable when trying to sleep. Doc originally tested me only 2 weeks after the tick bite and Lymes didn’t show up as there was not enough in my system. My symptoms got worse so went back to Doc’s who did another blood test this time it was positive. A week of antibiotics and I was right as rain. > I had arthritic symptoms in my knees, random heart issues and started having a really hard time recovering after work outs. My body just suddenly felt like I had the flu all the time. Fatigue and aches etc. > Never got a ‘bulls-eye rash”, but I did have this purple, blistery rash that I assumed was a spider bite on my right leg. A week later after my hip was becoming too painful to put any pressure on ### Extreme Fatigue I went overnight from the best condition of my life to being unable to get off the couch for longer than 15 minutes at a time. > Two weeks after getting bit by the tick, I started feeling really tired and weak.  I have small children though, so thought I might just be tired from everyday life.  Then I saw a reddish rash on the spot where a tick had bit me.  I tested positive and was prescribed doxycycline.  Within two days on antibiotics, my energy was back.  It was only after I felt better that I realized just how fatigued the Lyme made me. ### Swelling Lyme can cause swelling.  It usually occurs in the knees or other joints.  However, swelling can also occur in other parts of the body. > My toe on one foot swelled up and turned purple. That was my only symptom for almost 2 months. ### Seizures Because Lyme affects the nervous systems, it can cause seizures.  While this isn’t a common symptom, it can be a symptom even in early stage Lyme disease. ([5](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18431910/), [6](https://www.columbia-lyme.org/signs-and-symptoms)) > The very first symptom of my journey with Lyme was a full body seizure, totally lucid but in complete shock thinking what the actual hell is going on!? After that I could only speak in stutters and the tremors lasted the day > About a month/6 weeks after the bite I suddenly felt very panicked, like something terrible was going to happen and then had a lucid full body seizure. Only lasted a couple of minutes but I was abit out of it after and had lots of shivers/shaking the rest of the evening. Everything went to hell after that very rapidly with many many symptoms popping up very quickly, mostly neurological stuff. Ended up spending weeks in hospital and honestly thought I was going to die. ## It Can Be Hard to Get a Diagnosis for Lyme Disease Because so many of these Lyme disease symptoms also occur in other diseases, your doctor might not even test you for Lyme.  And, if you do get a test, false negatives are very common – especially in the early stages of Lyme. As one Lyme victim said, “*Do not let them send you away with a false negative. I screened false negative with a huge ass bulls-eye rash on my arm.*” There is no shortage of stories from frustrated patients who had to argue with their doctors to get treatment for Lyme.   One guy even wrote that, “*I was tested for HIV before being tested for Lyme disease.. even though I had told the docs I thought I might have Lyme initially because my symptoms lined up.*” Of course, having any of these symptoms doesn’t necessarily mean you have Lyme disease (there is actually a huge branch of scam doctors who diagnose people with chronic Lyme just to sell their quack remedies…). The point is that you should take any symptoms of Lyme disease seriously.  **If you don’t feel well, insist on getting tested for Lyme.  You should also get tested for Lyme co-infections as well.** And, because of how many false negatives occur, get tested again if the test comes back negative. **Let’s hear it – what were your first symptoms of Lyme disease?  Any unusual ones? Let us know in the comments section below.** --- ###### Sources for first-hand accounts: <https://www.reddit.com/r/Lyme/comments/q9cdum/first_signs_symptoms/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/Lyme/comments/psodxm/was_anyones_first_lyme_symptom_rapid_heart_rate/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/Lyme/comments/pqf1u4/lyme_symptoms/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/Lyme/comments/2ktio2/lyme_and_anxiety/> > [Community](https://singletrackworld.com/forum/) <https://www.reddit.com/r/CampingandHiking/comments/3h3i5y/psa_be_cautious_of_lyme_disease_be_aware_of/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/ChronicLymeDisease/comments/ip55vl/worried_i_have_lyme/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/Lyme/comments/jdhl45/different_first_symptom_of_lyme/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/breakingmom/comments/6ahhh1/anyone_know_anything_about_lymes_disease/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/AppalachianTrail/comments/cnu0u3/anyone_find_out_they_had_lyme_disease_after_the/> ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety **Tags:** lyme, ticks --- ### [How to Prepare for Hiking in Peru (Beyond Just Machu Picchu)](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-peru/) **Published:** September 28, 2018 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Recently, my family and I spent two months exploring Peru.  Full disclaimer for anyone looking for information on hiking Machu Picchu: we *didn’t* go there (and I’m glad we didn’t – read why).  Instead, we went on some other great hikes and uncovered areas of Peru that most travelers don’t see. If you do plan on hiking Machu Picchu while in Peru, these tips will still apply. Hopefully my family’s advice will help you better prepare for your trip – like bringing the right gear – and make your trip more enjoyable. 🙂 ## Why We Chose Not to Hike Machu Picchu When you think of Peru, Machu Picchu immediately comes to mind. I remember reading that nearly all foreign visitors to Peru come *specifically to visit Machu Picchu*.  Sorry – can’t remember the source, but the sheer number of people visiting the ruins each year surely supports this. According to an article in [The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2017/jun/20/machu-picchu-tickets-peru-timed-entry-control-flow-of-tourists), Machu Picchu had a record number of visitors in 2016: 1.4 million.  That averages out to 5,000 people per day! There are so many visitors to Machu Picchu that they’ve initiated a timed entry system.  You are also now required to follow defined routes along the site.  So, no, you won’t be able to hike Machu Picchu at your own pace, and explore wherever you want. **Because so many people are going to hike Machu Picchu, it means that:** - The site is being damaged - It is expensive (getting to the site, permits for hiking the Incan Trail, entry tickets, porters, etc.) - You won’t be able to thoroughly enjoy the site because it will be so damned crowded I would have tolerated all of these aspects except for one thing: **Peru has many great ruins to visit!  Machu Picchu is just one many!!!** So, instead of spending a fortune to visit what is turning into a tourist trap, my family (me, my husband, and daughter who was then 6 years old) decided to visit other sites instead. We ultimately decided on spending 1 month in Tarapoto, 5 days in Chachapoyas, and 1 month in Trujillo.  The reason for the extended stays is because we had to work while on our trip. Our flexible remote working schedules meant we could go on lots of day trips and treks.  We also got to really know the places and made local friends.  It was definitely different than spending just a few days in a bunch of different places. ## General Tips for Hiking in Peru ### 1. Get a Good Water Filter Many years ago, I bought a [Sawyer Mini water filter](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FA2RLX2/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00FA2RLX2&linkId=e130ade036125b3f7916745312235f40).  It is still one of the best purchases I’ve ever made. The tiny water filter can be screwed onto a normal plastic water bottle.  Just drink straight through the filter.  Or squeeze water through the filter into another bottle.  It cleans virtually all bacteria, parasites, and other pathogens which could give you that infamous traveler’s diarrhea. Tap water in Peru is NOT potable. But, just filter it through the Sawyer Mini and it is safe.  On hikes in Peru, I brought the Sawyer Mini so I could drink from streams and lakes – it saved me from having to buy bottled water. \*I’ve also used my Sawyer Mini filter during backcountry camping trips, in Egypt, in Albania, and many other places where the water isn’t safe to drink. [Read my review of it here](https://momgoescamping.com/sawyer-mini-water-filter-review/). ![sawyer mini water filter](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/IMG_5083.jpg "sawyer mini tips - Mom Goes Camping")*I dont have a picture of us using the Sawyer Mini water filter in Peru but heres it in use in Albania You can [buy it here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FA2RLX2/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00FA2RLX2&linkId=a5ad38c327cbb5c16ea0d5d8e9d02f17)* ### 2. Bring a Friggin’ Good First Aid Kit ![travel first aid kit list](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/first-aid-kit-for-travelers-checklist.jpg "first aid kit for travelers checklist - Mom Goes Camping") You don’t take a 6-year old into the jungle without a complete first aid kit.  For our Peru trip, I carefully calculated what to bring.  I’m really proud of how it worked out.  The kit was still compact and lightweight, but contained everything we needed.   The only things I didn’t use from the kit were the large bandages (thankfully no one got a serious wound!). You can see the [complete first aid kit checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/travel-first-aid-kit-list/) here.   The most useful items to have while trekking Peru were: - [Electrolyte packets](https://amzn.to/2QduhtC) - Anti-diarrhea medicine - Fever medicine - Band-aids - Bug bite cream (we got bit by ants more than mosquitoes) ### 3. Research Your Tour Guide Well Sure, you can just “show up” at the city and choose whatever tour guide company you see.  But you could end up with a crappy experience. We made this mistake with our tour to Kuelap. At the tour office, the guy spoke perfect English.  He said that the tour would be in English.  Nope!  The guide spoke terrible English (my Spanish is very rusty) and mainly spoke Spanish to the group. The guides also gave us misleading information.  My daughter and I were fine.  However, my husband has a physical disability which makes it hard for him to go hiking (usually my daughter and I go alone).  We asked about the trail to Kuelap and were assured that it was “easy” and that there were horses available. After 8+ hours of driving, we got to the base of Kuelap.  It had rained the day before, so there were no horses available.  That meant my husband had to wait at the base while we hiked to the actual site.  He didn’t get to see it. L ### 4.  Don’t Overestimate Your Hiking Ability I’m a fairly experienced hiker, but that doesn’t mean I can easily “handle” all of the hiking in Peru.   You’ve got to keep in mind that many hikes are on a high elevation. As for the Incan Trail, a good tour guide will require that you get there 3 days in advance so you can [acclimate yourself to the high elevation](https://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/forums/americas-south-america/peru/how-long-to-adjust-to-high-altitude-cusco-and-machu-picchu) (and lower amount of oxygen). Again, we didn’t do this hike in Peru, but were at high elevations in Chachapoyas. Seriously, altitude sickness is no fun.  Take it seriously!!! ### 5. Don’t Eat before Getting in Minibuses For the 8 hour bus ride from Tarapoto to Chachapoyas, we packed a whole bunch of sandwiches and snacks. We didn’t eat any of them. The minibus drivers in Peru go insanely fast around those curving roads.  After 1 hour, the first passenger called out to the driver, “Bolsa!”  A handful of plastic bags were passed back.  She puked in them and then threw them out the window. Apparently, this is common practice. The only way that I managed not to puke (including when the person next to me was barfing) was by staring STRAIGHT AHEAD and exercising Jedi mind control against my gag reflex. ## Trekking in the Jungle in Peru Before visiting Peru, I had never done any trekking in the jungle.  I’ve got to admit that I was vastly unprepared for it and wish we would have gone with a guide.  However, everything still went really well.  We made some friends while in Tarapoto (a small city in the midst of the jungle) and they led us on a trek to some waterfalls. Here’s what I wish I would have known before we went trekking in Peru’s jungles: ### 1. You Need Waterproof Boots There is a good reason that all the locals (and tour guides) wear knee-high waterproof boots in the jungle and NOT hiking boots. - **SNAKES!** There are snakes all over the place in the jungle. You need those high boots to protect against bites. - **Bullet Ants:** A bullet ant won’t kill you, but it will hurt like hell and leave you quivering in bed with a fever for 3 days. I saw tons of these in the jungle.  The scary part is that there are lots of other ants and it can be hard to tell which ones are bullet ants.  Oh, and those other ants also bite (my daughter fell on a line of ants and got lots of bites 🙁 ).  Waterproof boots are necessary to protect your legs. - **You’ll have to cross streams:** On one hike in Peru, we had to cross a stream 7 times. At first, we just removed our hiking boots at each crossing.  That was taking forever though, so we ultimately just walked through in our boots.  God I wish we would have been smart and bought waterproof boots. [![waterproof snake boots](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/snake-boots.png "snake boots - Mom Goes Camping")](https://amzn.to/2QjCqNp)Do yourself a favor and get a pair of waterproof boots like these ones before you go to Peru You can [buy these ones here](https://amzn.to/2QjCqNp) ### 2. Snakes Are Everywhere. So Are Bullet Ants. Again, there are snakes and ants everywhere in the jungle.  You will NOT be able to safely sit down on a rock for a break. The snakes are even in the trees, so be cautious. ![bullet ant](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/DSCF5470.jpg "DSCF5470 - Mom Goes Camping")This is a bullet ant It scared me even more than the snakes ### 3. Give Yourself a LOT of Time The terrain in the jungle is very tough.  For someone used to hiking in mountains (as myself), it was challenging and took a lot [longer than I anticipated](https://momgoescamping.com/how-long-complete-hike/). You don’t want to be caught in the jungle at night  (especially if you are afraid of spiders – that’s when all the tarantulas come out!). Make sure you get back long before the Peruvian cicadas start their alarm. ![hiking in the jungles of Peru](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/IMG_6049.jpg "IMG_6049 - Mom Goes Camping")Isabel getting a bit of help crossing a stream during one of our jungle hikes ## Some Epic Sites in Peru that Aren’t Machu Picchu ![karajia sarcophagi](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/sarcofagi.jpg "Sarcophagi - Mom Goes Camping")*Sarcophagi Karajia near Chachapoyas* If you want to visit or hike some places in Peru that aren’t Machu Picchu, here are some recommendations.  These are around Tarapoto, Chachapoyas, and Trujillo since that is where we spent our time: **Near Chachapoyas:** - Kuelap - [Sarcophagi of Carajia](https://www.amusingplanet.com/2014/10/the-sarcophagi-of-karajia.html) (aka Karijia) - Quiocta cave **Near Tarapoto:** - [Gocta waterfall](https://www.peru.travel/en-us/what-to-do/Natural-Peru/lakes-lagoons-waterfalls-and-rivers/gocta-waterfall.aspx) - Waterfalls around Tarapoto - El Sauce Lagoon mud baths (also not much hiking, but soooo great! We were at Don Grimaldo thermal baths) **Near Trujillo** - [Chan Chan](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/endangered-site-chan-chan-peru-51748031/) (not much of a hike, but awesome all the same) - Laguna Conache and sand dunes (great for sandboarding) Of course, there are also sites like the Nazca lines, Sipan, Ollantaytambo, Sacsayhuaman, Sillustani, and Caral to visit.   For natural attractions, there are the [colorful mountains](https://www.roamingaroundtheworld.com/why-not-to-trek-rainbow-mountain-peru/) (even if the actual site doesn’t live up to the Photoshopped version of it). Think outside of Machu Picchu – Peru has so much more to offer!!! And make sure you are prepared with the right gear! ![Kuelap, Peru](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/DSCF7017.jpg "DSCF7017 - Mom Goes Camping")The entrance to Kuelap![Inside Kuelap in the rain](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/DSCF7057.jpg "DSCF7057 - Mom Goes Camping")You definitely need a rain jacket in Peru Inside Kuelap![Chachapoyas Peru](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/DSCF6880.jpg "DSCF6880 - Mom Goes Camping")Locals in the mountains near Chachapoyas![laguna azul, Peru](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/DSCF6447.jpg "DSCF6447 - Mom Goes Camping")My favorite place that we visited in Peru Don Grimaldo at Laguna Azul![cave peru](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/DSCF6855.jpg "DSCF6855 - Mom Goes Camping")Bones just laying there in the Quiocta cave![hiking in Peru](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/DSCF6719.jpg "DSCF6719 - Mom Goes Camping")Hiking through sugar cane near Lamas Peru![Ahuashiyacu waterfall](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/DSCF5909.jpg "DSCF5909 - Mom Goes Camping")Ahuashiyacu waterfall near Tarapoto![tapir](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/DSCF5473.jpg "DSCF5473 - Mom Goes Camping")Tapir at Urku animal reserve![parrot in jungle of Peru](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/DSCF5569.jpg "DSCF5569 - Mom Goes Camping")Jungle friends 🙂![Chan Chan](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/5.jpg "5 - Mom Goes Camping")Chan Chan Peru![Chan Chan](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/3.jpg "3 - Mom Goes Camping")View from walls of Chan Chan the site was practically empty when we were there I guess everyone was hiking Machu Picchu 😉![conanche trujillo](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/DSCF7832.jpg "DSCF7832 - Mom Goes Camping")Heading to sandboarding outside of Trujillo![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/DSCF7821.jpg "DSCF7821 - Mom Goes Camping")Bird at Laguna Conache near Trujillo ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** jungle, Peru --- ### [How To Find And Enjoy Nature When You Live In A Big City](https://momgoescamping.com/find-nature-live-in-city/) **Published:** March 21, 2019 **Author:** Diane **Content:** When you live in a big city it can be easy to forget how important it is to *spend time in nature.* Trust me, I get it – between rushing back and forth to work, trying to be responsible and cook your own meals, and other “adult” activities, spending time in the great outdoors is oftentimes the last thing on your mind. It’s important to note, however, that it really shouldn’t be. Just as it is important to sleep, eat right, and take care of your body and mind, it is also crucial that you spend some time completely unplugged from the modern world and enjoy nature. There are plenty of studies to prove this — like studies that show how being in nature [improves creativity and problem-solving skills](https://www.medicaldaily.com/nature-enhances-creativity-and-problem-solving-skills-243881), [camping can treat insomnia](http://time.com/4656550/camping-sleep-insomnia/), [interacting with nature alleviates depression](https://www.health.harvard.edu/mind-and-mood/sour-mood-getting-you-down-get-back-to-nature), and [other studies](https://www.businessinsider.com/why-spending-more-time-outside-is-healthy-2017-7#walking-in-nature-could-improve-your-short-term-memory-1) which show that being in nature lowers blood pressure, reduces anxiety, improves vision, and much more. But how exactly do you *find and get into nature* when you are seemingly so far away from it? Here are the steps you can take. ## **1. Head To The Internet** ![finding nature near you](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/5naturenearme.gif "5naturenearme - Mom Goes Camping") I get it, it’s really ironic to suggest using the internet when this article is about unplugging and enjoying nature. However, most major cities have some sort of directory that can guide you to wonderful open parks and sanctuaries. You can tweak the settings if need be in order to find some great options that are close to you, available via public transportation, or a short drive away. The point is, don’t be afraid to do a little Googling in order to find a great place to enjoy the great outdoors! ### **Suggested Google Searches:** - **Nature near me** - **Hiking trails near me** - **Local parks near me** - **State parks near me** **There are also plenty of cool websites which list hiking trails by region.  Check out these websites:** - [Rails to Trails Conservancy ](http://www.traillink.com/) - [Map My Hike](http://www.mapmyhike.com) - [All Trails](https://www.alltrails.com/) - [Trails.com](https://www.trails.com/) - [HikingProject.com](https://www.hikingproject.com/) ## **2. Ask Locals** Oftentimes, there are many situations where the *best* natural spots in cities aren’t broadcasted on the world wide web. Because of this, it is crucial to ask around and see what parks people recommend. Additionally, there may be secretive spots in major parks and sanctuaries that may be hard to get to but can truly allow you to feel like you are cut off from the hectic world of the city. Locals usually have some great ideas and know the best spots for you to enjoy nature. So ask your friends.  Or, head to local forums to ask for advice. ## **3. Don’t Be Afraid To Explore** ![nature trails in the city](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/3trail.jpg "3trail - Mom Goes Camping") One of my favorite things about enjoying nature is the feeling of *exploration* that I get to experience. Many people simply ignore this when they find themselves in a big city, but trust me when I say that it is important to explore and not be afraid of getting lost in the wonders of city parks and sanctuaries. Next time you see some nature while out in the city, get out there and walk around. You may find an awesome new place for you to unplug and enjoy nature. **Tip:** It helps to have a bike when exploring these areas.  Then you can cover further distance and get to the “unexplored” and lesser-known areas more quickly. ## **4. Schedule Time To Enjoy Nature** ![scheduling time for nature](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/4maketime.jpg "4maketime - Mom Goes Camping") I’ve found that in my busy, modern life, it is easy for me to fill up my schedule with activities. I always tell myself *I’ll go to the park this weekend*, but the weekend rolls around and things always get incredibly busy. I blink a few times and it’s Monday morning again! It may not be romantic or whimsical, but I find the best to ensure that I’ll enjoy nature is to **schedule time** for me to get into the great outdoors. A hike outside the city with some friends is a great way to spend the afternoon, or you could even just bring a book and sit in the park for an hour or two. The important thing I have found is to *actually schedule* this in my calendar. I highly recommend you do this as well. ## **5. Join An Outdoors Group** ![nature groups on meetup.com](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2meetup.gif "2meetup - Mom Goes Camping") In my opinion, one of the best ways to enjoy nature is to do exciting activities with other people. One site that I really love is [MeetUp.com](http://www.meetup.com), which is a free group organizer. If you live in a city in the US, chances are there are a *ton* of awesome Meet Up groups that love spending time in the great outdoors. In Boston, where I live, there are countless groups for hiking, [camping,](https://www.all-terrainoutdoors.com/camping-in-the-rain-checklist/) biking, power walking, dog meetups, and more. If you can dream it, chances are you can find a group that does it. And even if it is not there, it is incredibly easy to start a new group and find like-minded people. In most cases, these groups are completely free to join, so definitely take advantage of this awesome service. ## **5. Meditate** One quick and easy way to enjoy nature of all sizes is to *meditate.* Sit down in your local park whenever you have a few minutes, and just **breathe.** Focus on your breathing as it goes in and out, on the sun shining down on your face, and allow yourself to feel your body and your connection to the world. It’s been talked about a million times, but meditation has innumerable health benefits and can truly help ground you and let you enjoy the sanctity of nature when living in a city. ## **6. Consider Volunteering** If you are passionate about the great outdoors, consider volunteering your time to a local organization. Many local conservatories need guides, people to help pick up trash, and more. You can also consider volunteering for youth organizations that spend time in the great outdoors such as the girl scouts or boy scouts. This is an amazing way to give back to the community, help the natural world, and enrich your life. ## **7. Turn Off Your Phone (Please!)** This suggestion is *really personal* for me. I work in front of a screen all day in a high-pressure job, so it is extremely easy for me to spend hours on end staring at data or responding to the flood of emails that seem to never spot. However, I am begging you to turn off your phone for a bit when you are in the great outdoors. The world is not going to end, and I promise all of the hectic things you have to take care off in the city will still be there when you leave. But it is crucial for all of us to **unplug** once in a while and return to where we come from – the earth. Breathe in the fresh air. Rub your hands across the bark of a tree, and pet any dogs that you come into contact with. It will give your brain a chance to reset, your mood will improve, and believe it or not, you will be *more productive* when you do return to work and your day to day life because you have spent some time nurturing your body and your soul. --- **![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/mountainmike.jpg "mountainmike - Mom Goes Camping")About the author:** Mountain Mike writes for [All-terrainoutdoors.com](https://www.all-terrainoutdoors.com), a website dedicated to finding the highest-quality duck calls made from natural, sustainable materials. ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids --- ### [How to Go Camping and Get into Nature without a Car](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-without-car/) **Published:** April 16, 2019 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I don’t have a car or even know how to drive.  Admittedly, this can make it somewhat difficult to get into nature. However, it hasn’t stopped me from going camping.  Even with my daughter and *baby*.  Yes, I went camping with a newborn without a car! ## Why Go Camping without a Car? Aside from the obvious reasons like you don’t have a car or don’t want to rent one, there are plenty of reasons to enjoy nature without your car.  Some of the benefits: - Better for the environment - No need to worry about break downs - Cars limit your view of wildlife - You won’t get a true camping experience - Dealing with parking is a pain Okay.  Those are all good *reasons*, but how do you actually make it happen??? ## See How Far You Can Get with Public Transportation Instead of choosing a place to go and then figuring out how to get there, I plan trips in reverse. 1. First I see which national parks/nature areas are near public transport lines. 2. Then I decide where to go. I now live in Southeast Europe and most areas are very well-connected with bus lines.  So, I can usually get very close to a good camping spot. For example, when I went wild camping at Radoinsko Lake in Serbia, I took a bus that went about 10 miles (16km) from the lake. As we got close, I was frantically looking at the GPS on my phone so I could tell the bus driver where to let us off.  The driver was a bit skeptical about letting us off in the middle of “nowhere,” but he stopped where we told him to. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/public-transport.jpg "public transport - Mom Goes Camping")*Are we there yet mom My daughter in the bus at the start of a camping trip* ## Getting the Rest of the Way Public transportation will only take you so far (especially if you are trying to get into real, remote nature.  From there, you will several options: **1. Hitchhike.** I love hitchhiking and have done a lot of it (read about [why I hitchhike with my daughter](https://momgoescamping.com/why/) here). It can be difficult to hitchhike in urban areas. But, once you are in more remote areas, people are more likely to stop. This is contingent on there being someone there to stop though.  My daughter and I (on several occasions) have waited more than an hour for a car to go by.  Once a car does go by though, it almost always stops. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/hitchhike-3.jpg "hitchhike 3 - Mom Goes Camping")*Hitchhiking in Albania*![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/hitchhike-2.jpg "hitchhike 2 - Mom Goes Camping")*Waiting for a car to pass by on the border between Montenegro and Kosovo*![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/hitchhike-1.jpg "hitchhike 1 - Mom Goes Camping")*We waited nearly 2 hours for a ride If anything hitchhiking has definitely taught my daughter patience* **2. Bike.** I personally don’t have any experience with this, but many people do bike tours into beautiful nature areas. You can even take your bike on public transport for most of the way and then ride it to where you want to go. A nice thing about traveling by bike is that campground fees are less by bike – assuming that you even stay in a campground instead of wild camping. **3. Taxi** Once I got remarried and had a new baby, I stopped with the hitchhiking (at least for the time being). It simply isn’t feasible to hitchhike with 4 people! So, my family made some trips by: - Taking public transportation to the nearest towns - Then taking a taxi to the camping spot. Yes, taxis are expensive.  However, they tend to be cheaper in small towns.  And occasionally paying for a taxi is a heck of a lot cheaper than owning your own car. **4. Walk!** Hitchhiking and taxis can only take you so far. If you are without a car, then you better be prepared to walk with all of your gear – at least some distance. For example, on that same trip I mentioned before, my daughter and I got a ride for 8.5 of the miles.  The driver let us off at the small road going to the lake.  We just walked this last bit.  Which is one more reason to travel light. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/without-a-car.jpg "without a car - Mom Goes Camping")*Almost there Our campi*ng *spot is on the other side of this lake 😀* ## Consider joining a hiking/outdoors group. If public transportation won’t work for your, then look into nature groups in your area. You can become friends with people in the group (who may have cars) and go camping together. ## Travel Light! If you are camping without a car, then you are *backpacking*.  You will need to have all of your gear with you (though there are some campgrounds where you can rent all of the equipment once you get there). Traveling light means you’ll be able to walk to a nice camping spot. It also means that, unlike with car camping, you won’t be bringing a lot of unnecessary gear with you. Sure, it can be nice to have a camping chair or shower with you… but do you really need this stuff?  Chances are you will enjoy nature and de-stress better when you don’t have to keep track of a bunch of crap. ![backpacking checklist for kids](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/my-pack.jpg "my pack - Mom Goes Camping")*This is my backpack packed for a 7 day trip with my then 6 yo daughter* **Side note:** One of the things that really stood out to me in Ben Crawford’s interview about [completing the AT with his family of 8](https://thetrek.co/appalachian-trail/8-member-crawford-family-completed-appalachian-trail/) was how overwhelmed he was by his possessions when get got home. > “When they were on the trail, Ben said that he had about 20 things that he had to keep up with, most of which were in specific places inside his backpack. Once he got back home, he was overwhelmed by the amount of things he’s now got to keep up with. That’s why he’s begun to systematically go through their belongings and get rid of extraneous items in an effort to simplify and declutter their lives.” ## **Have an exit plan.** What if something happens while you are in remote nature? How will you get help without a car? As a parent of two young girls, I always have an exit plan. **Your exit plan may involve:** - Camping at campgrounds instead of wild camping. - Bringing a communication device like the SPOT finder. - Only going places where you will have a cell signal (and bringing a portable charger to keep your phone charged). - Staying within a certain distance of civilization. - Checking in with park rangers. - Not taking any stupid risks and turning back if you aren’t sure about how safe a trail is. **Have you gone camping without a car? Let us know any advice you have in the comments.** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids --- ### [How to Charge Devices while Camping: 5 Best Options](https://momgoescamping.com/how-charge-devices-camping-backpacking/) **Published:** June 25, 2019 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Worried about your phone, GPS or headlamp dying on you while camping or backpacking?  There are 6 main options for keeping your devices charged.  I’ll go over them here, including their pros and cons. ## **Quick Answer:** For short camping trips, a  lightweight power bank should be enough to keep your devices charged.  For longer trips or photo gear, you’ll need a high-capacity power bank and ideally also a small solar panel for recharging it.  If you are car camping long-term or have high power needs,  then a power station plus solar panel setup will give you reliable power. ## Option 1: Bring Extra Batteries ![rechargeable batteries](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/batteries-3604455_640.jpg "rechargeable batteries - Mom Goes Camping") **Best for:** Short trips where you won’t use your phone **Pros:** This is the cheapest and easiest solution for charging devices. Just bring as many batteries as you think you’ll need.  Ideally, all of your devices use the same type of batteries so you only have to bring one type. **Cons:** You won’t be able to recharge your phone or other USB devices with spare batteries.  If you rely on your phone for navigation, this could be risky. --- ## Option 2: Power Bank ![ravpower power bank](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/ravpower-power-bank.jpg "ravpower power bank - Mom Goes Camping") **Best for:** Backpackers and minimalist campers, **Pros:** Most camping devices today are charged via USB, so a single power bank could charge all of your devices.  Power banks come in many capacities. To figure out how much power you need, calculate how much power your devices use and how many times you’ll need to recharge them. **Cons:** If some of your devices might still use AA or AAA batteries, then you’ll have to bring a power bank *and* spare batteries.  Or you bring along a charger for your rechargeable batteries.  You use the power bank to recharge the batteries.  You’ll lose some capacity because of the conversion, so this is not an efficient solution. Another downside is that power banks might not provide enough juice for longer trips.  They also won’t provide enough juice for high-power devices like photo gear. **Also Read:** [Best Lightweight Power Banks for Backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/best-backpacking-power-banks/) --- ## Option 3: Power Station [![using a power station to charge camping gear](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/power-station-for-camping.jpg "power station for camping - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/power-station-for-camping.jpg) **Best for:** High power needs, car camping or glamping **Pros:** Power stations are like a power bank on steroids.  They have huge capacities and various outlets, so you can charge multiple devices at once.  You simply charge them at home and you have a reliable source of power on your camping trip.  Plus, it’s awesome to have a power station at home in case of a power outage, so it’s a worthwhile investment.  I have the [Bluetti EB70](https://shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=1745428&u=2366353&m=108816&urllink=www%2Ebluettipower%2Ecom%2Fproducts%2Feb70s%2D716wh%2D800w%2Dportable%2Dpower%2Dstation%2Dbest%2Dsolar%2Dgenerator%2Dfor%2Dcamping&afftrack=) and love it.  But they did send it to me for free, so I didn’t have to shell out the cash for it. 🙂 **Cons:** Power stations are heavy. Even the high-capacity ones can’t run large devices like heaters (you’ll need a campsite with an electric hookup). There’s also the cost issue: most power stations are really expensive.  And power stations don’t handle extreme heat well.  That means you risk ruining the power station if you leave it in a hot vehicle while on day trips or hiking. **Also read:** [Are power stations worth it for camping?](https://momgoescamping.com/power-stations-worth-it-camping/) --- ## Option 4: Portable Solar Panels + Battery Storage ![Goal Zero 14 watt portable solar panel](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Goal-Zero-Nomad-14-Plus-Solar-Panel.specs_.05.jpg "Goal-Zero-Nomad-14-Plus-Solar-Panel.specs.05 - Mom Goes Camping") **Best for:** Longer trips where you have higher power needs **How It Works:** When it’s sunny, you can use the solar panel to directly charge devices.  Or use the solar panel to charge a power bank or power station, which you then use to charge devices later. **Pros:** This is one of the only ways to stay powered while camping for longer periods of time.  The solution is also versatile. For example, you can pair an ultralight solar panel with a power bank for backpacking.  Or pair a larger solar panel with a power station when on long car camping trips. **Cons:** Solar panels by themselves are ultimately unreliable.  If the sun isn’t always going to be shining.  If you absolutely must have power, an unexpected rainstorm could ruin your trip. Even when it is perfectly sunny, solar panels are still pretty slow to charge.  It can take all day to charge a phone with a small 5W solar panel. Larger solar panels are faster but can’t be strapped to a backpack. Do you really want to sit around camp all day waiting for devices to charge? **Also read:** [Best lightweight solar panels](https://momgoescamping.com/best-ultralight-solar-panels/) --- ## Option 5: Your Car **Best for:** Car campers with light power needs **Pros:** This is another simple solution for charging devices while camping. Most new cars have USB chargers in them.  If your car doesn’t have one, then you can get a USB adapter for the cigarette lighter port. **Cons:** You’ll need to keep the car running while charging devices.  Otherwise you risk the car battery dying and not being able to start the car.  It’s also really annoying to keep going to your car each time you want to charge devices.  And you’ll only be able to charge USB devices — you won’t be able to run anything with high power needs such as a fan. **How do you charge devices while camping? Let us know in the comments.** Image credit: “[Solar panel and charger](https://www.flickr.com/photos/stephanridgway/5026219234/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [sridgway](https://www.flickr.com/people/stephanridgway/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** chargers, solar --- ### [How to Find Free Camping in the USA](https://momgoescamping.com/find-free-camping/) **Published:** October 2, 2019 **Author:** Diane **Content:** In addition to saving money, there are a lot of good reasons to find free camping sites (aka wild camping or dispersed camping) on your trip instead of staying at a campground… - Avoid annoying camping neighbors who blast music or watch videos all day - No electricity or WiFi means you get to truly connect with nature - Don’t have to make any reservations - Can be completely alone in the wilderness, if you want. - Amazing views, like the one below. ![Desolation canyon](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/13972922785_1e3ba31fe7_z.jpg "13972922785_1e3ba31fe7_z - Mom Goes Camping")*Free camping on BML land with a view of Desolation Canyon in Utah* Ready to find free camping sites? This guide will tell you how and give you links to resources like interactive maps, permit info, and more.   Happy camping (and [Leave No Trace](https://lnt.org/why/7-principles/)!) ## Jump to: - [Free Camping in National Parks](#nationalparks) - [State Parks](#stateparks) - [National Forests](#nationalforests) - [BLM Land (Dispersed Camping)](#blm) - [Private Property](#privateproperty) - [Around Your Neighborhood](#neighborhood) - [Resources for Finding Free Camping Sites](#resources) ## Want to Camp for Free? Be Prepared to Get Off the Beaten Path ![crowds at national parks](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/4764007966_6f01db0f57_z.jpg "4764007966_6f01db0f57_z - Mom Goes Camping") Over the past decade, outdoor activities have become much more popular. Just visits to national parks has increased by 55 million visitors since 2007.  That adds up to over 330 million visitors per year! While it’s awesome that more people are getting outdoors, this is resulting in nature getting “[loved to death](https://momgoescamping.com/overcrowding-national-parks/).” Park fees and paid campgrounds exit as a way to minimize impact on the land.  As much as I personally believe that nature should be open and accessible to all, those fees are a necessary evil.  Imagine how many people would trample over Yosemite or the Grand Canyon if no permits were required? If you want to camp in popular locations, be prepared to pay. However, if you are willing to get off the beaten path (literally and figuratively), you can find all sorts of free camping spots. ## The Case for Campgrounds I personally prefer wild camping for free over campgrounds because it gives me a chance to completely unplug and connect with nature.  However, there’s some good to be said of paying for campgrounds. If you are new to camping, it’s really helpful to have running water, a bathroom and trash cans instead of figuring out how to [filter water](https://momgoescamping.com/sawyer-mini-water-filter-review/), dig a cathole or pack out your trash (You MUST follow the rules of [Leave No Trace](https://lnt.org/why/7-principles/) when free camping!). As a parent, I also like that there are usually other families at campgrounds.  My daughter gets to play with their kids, and I get to finally socialize with people who *get it.*  By contrast, we rarely meet anyone –especially anyone with kids – when free camping.  (If you don’t have kids though, one of the perks of free camping is that there aren’t any annoying kids around, haha!) \[sta\_anchor id=”nationalparks” /\] ## Free Camping in National Parks ![free parking in national parks](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/9525963611_1c74c4e366_z.jpg "no free parking in national parks - Mom Goes Camping") There are 61 national parks located in 29 states.  Almost all of these national parks require you to get a permit in order to go wilderness camping.  And that permit almost always comes with a cost. 🙁 ### Backcountry Camping Permit Costs Each of the 61 national parks in the USA has its own fee system.  To visit the park and stay overnight, you will probably need to pay: - A vehicle entrance fee (usually $15 to $35) or a per-person fee (usually $3 to $15) - About $4 to $10 per night for the camping fee - Another small fee for the permit itself Here are some examples: #### **Great Smoky Mountains National Park:** A permit for the Smoky Mountain National Park costs $4 per person, per night, with a maximum charge of $20.  The permit is only good for 7 days though, so you are limited to how long you can stay. There is no fee to enter the Smoky Mountain though.  So, you could go camping for 7 days for just $20.  By contrast, most campgrounds in the Smoky Mountains cost around $17-$25 *per day.* #### **Olympic National Park in Washington**  Olympic National Park in Washington costs $8 per person, per night plus a $6 permit fee.  Camping for 4 nights would cost $38.  Camping for 10 nights would cost you $86.  On top of this, you have to pay entrance into the park.  If arriving by vehicle, it’s a $30 fee. If arriving by foot, it’s a $10 entrance fee. #### Free National Parks There are a handful of National Parks which give free permits, which means you get to camp for free. For example, Shenandoah National Park in Virginia doesn’t require a permit at all. Yosemite requires a permit, but it is free (aside from the $5 reservation fee).  However, permits for Yosemite are notoriously difficult to get since the park is so popular. You’ll have to search the [NPS](http://www.nps.gov/) website to see the permit costs and requirements for the National Park you want to go to. **Note:** - Even with a permit, you may not be allowed to camp wherever you want.  You often have to camp at designated campsites or stay in shelters. - Permits are often limited in number.  Here’s a good [guide to getting hard-to-get permits for national parks](https://thebigoutside.com/10-tips-for-getting-a-hard-to-get-national-park-backcountry-permit/). ### America the Beautiful Annual Parks Pass If you visit national parks frequently in one year, it’s worth it to get the [Annual Parks Pass](https://www.usparkpass.com/).  The pass covers entrance fees to National Parks, day-use fees, and also gives some discounts on campgrounds. The pass covers the owner plus up to 3 adults in the same vehicle (children up to 15 years old get into national parks for free).  As [Ontheluce calculates](https://www.ontheluce.com/does-a-us-national-parks-pass-save-you-money/), entrance fees would add up to $185 for Arches, Bryce Canyon, Canyonlands, Zion, Mesa Verde, and the Grand Canyon. The pass costs: - $80 for adults - $20 for seniors (62 year old and up) - $80 seniors lifetime pass - Free US military pass - Free for residents with permanent disabilities The pass does NOT cover any backpacking fees or permit costs though.  You still need to apply and pay for these, even with the Annual Pass.  Read more about the prices and what the pass covers [here](https://www.nps.gov/planyourvisit/passes.htm). ![camping in Yosemite](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/26436667192_5c38632b5a_k.jpg "camping in Yosemite - Mom Goes Camping")*Beautiful camping spot in Yosemite with a view of Vogelsang Peak A permit is definitely required* ### Can’t You Just (Illegally) Camp without a Permit? I won’t advise you to do illegal things.  *However*, I do know a few people who have backcountry camped in National Parks without a permit and didn’t get into any trouble. They were in [less-popular National Parks](https://momgoescamping.com/find-free-camping/) where they hardly saw anyone during the entire trip.  In more popular NPs, you can bet that there will be rangers at the trail heads checking permits. The Yosemite rangers even carry side arms. (Whether you *should* camp without a permit is a whole different issue.  There’s a lot of debate about whether nature should be kept free and open to anyone, or whether we should limit access to keep nature pristine…) ![rangers checking permits](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/4809142301_59bec0e528_z.jpg "Rangers - Mom Goes Camping")*Park Rangers checking permits for Half Dome at the base of the trail* If you do try to free camp in a National Park without a permit though, you are risking big fines.  The NPS website says that failure to follow park regulations *“may result in a fine of up to $5,000 per violation and/or 6 months in jail.”* I doubt you’d actually get that high of a fine (unless you were doing something really terrible, like littering or making an unsafe campfire).  But a lot of it depends on the mood of the ranger.  You might just get a warning or escorted out of the park.  Or you might end up in jail. #### **The Bottom Line?** I wouldn’t risk trying to free camp without a permit in National Parks, especially popular ones.  If you can’t get a permit, consider camping in a National Forest instead.  National Forests usually border National Parks. \[sta\_anchor id=”stateparks” /\] ## State Parks and Forests ![Chugach State Park, Alaska](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/5427084688_9b37e7bafd_z.jpg "Chugach State Park, Alaska - Mom Goes Camping")Amazing free campsite in Chugach State Park Alaska Compared to National Parks, State Parks tend to be much more relaxed in their rules.  You can often camp for free in the backcountry.  You may not even need a permit in some State Parks. For example, the Catskills State Park in NY allows camping anywhere below 3,500 feet (so long as you are 150 feet from a road, trail, or water body) and camping above 3,500 feet at designated sites.  You only need a permit if camping for more than 3 nights or at specific protected areas.  The permit is free. By contrast, Michigan State Parks have stricter rules.  They only allow camping at designated campgrounds. **Good Practice:** Even if a camping permit is not required, it’s still good practice to call the local rangers and let them know you are coming, where you plan to be, and entrance/exit dates.  If anything happens to you, they will know where to look for you! Likewise, it’s good practice to put a note on your car (or make sure you gave the rangers your license plate number when you call).  That way the rangers won’t get concerned when they see a car sitting there for days on end. \[sta\_anchor id=”nationalforests” /\] ## National Forests ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/29969239211_979bb68fe4_z.jpg "29969239211_979bb68fe4_z - Mom Goes Camping")*Free campsite in Santa Fe National Forest* In addition to the 61 National Parks in the USA, there are many other beautiful, protected nature areas.  The DIO runs national parks. As they explain, NPs can only be created by congress and are managed by the National Parks Service. By contrast, the country’s 154 national forests are run by the US Forest Service (a part of the Department of Agriculture). National Forests are “multi use”, which means that they can be used for recreation as well as activities like logging, mining, and grazing. **The great thing about national forests is that free camping is almost always allowed.**  In addition, national forests tend to be a lot less crowded than NPs.  Since they are often located right along NP boundaries, you can camp at some stunning places without the fees or crowds. ### Permit Requirements ![Coconino National Forest](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/3844623716_427ed81275_z.jpg "3844623716_427ed81275_z - Mom Goes Camping")*Setting up camp at Kendrick Peak in Coconino National Forest Free and no permit required* Like with NPs, you’ll have to check the requirements of the forest you plan on going to.  Each national forest has its own rules. The permits are usually free though. You may need separate permits for camping, campfires, fishing, etc. For example, Cleveland National Forest (which is part of the PCT) allows for completely free backcountry camping unless you are parked in an area that requires a parking fee.  A permit is required but is fairly easy to get. There are rules to follow, but they are all rules you should be following when wild camping anyway: must bring a trowel for burying human waste, camp must be 100 feet from a water source, do not block roadways or trails… ### Quotas Some national forests are so popular that they have put quotas on permits.  For example, the Inyo National Forest has quotas on almost all trails.  Only 8 people per day can enter at Baker Lakes, for example. This just goes to show that you may need to plan your backpacking trip well in advance.  Some of these permits are very hard to get – and you can bet the rangers will be checking for permits at the trailheads.  You can check for info at [https://www.fs.usda.gov](https://www.fs.usda.gov/) ### National Recreation Pass In addition to NPs, the National Recreation Pass also covers national forests.  This will cover some fees, like entrance fees.  You still need to get permits, if required, though. \[sta\_anchor id=”blm” /\] ## BLM Land (Dispersed Camping) [![dispersed camping sign](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/19411105191_ed8be96690_z.jpg "dispersed camping sign - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/19411105191_ed8be96690_z.jpg)*Sign at the entrance to Proctor Road dispersed camping area* BLM stands for the Bureau of Land Management.  They oversee over 245 acres of public lands. Most of this land is in the Western States, including: Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Idaho, Montana, New Mexico, Nevada, Oregon, Utah, Washington, and Wyoming. There’s also handful of BLM land in the Eastern States too. **For the most part, camping on BLM land is completely free and no permit is required.** Of course, there are some exceptions to this.  For example, you might find a “closed to camping” sign in conservation areas. There are also some restrictions on where you can free camp and for how long: - Must be away 200 yards away from a developed recreation area such as a picnic area, trailhead, or campground. - Also must be 200 yards away from a water source, such as a stream or lake. - Cannot camp for more than 14 days within a consecutive 28 day period. After the 14th day, the camper must move 25 miles away from the campsite. - Cannot leave personal property unattended for more than 10 days (12 months in Alaska). - Do not drive your car off-road (such as through grasslands or fields) to get to a campsite. If an existing site isn’t car accessible, park your car along the road and walk your gear to the campsite. Basically, you can’t set up a permanent camp on BLM land.  Stay away from high-use areas and you will be fine.  And (of course) be respectful of nature! ### How to Find Free Camping on BLM Land [![Dispersed camping in Meadow Creek Reservoir, Colorado](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/4810463136_d6f5294c3e_z.jpg "Dispersed camping in Meadow Creek Reservoir, Colorado - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/4810463136_d6f5294c3e_z.jpg)*Dispersed camping in Meadow Creek Reservoir Colorado* When driving through the Western States, I did quite a bit of dispersed camping.  You’ll often find small roads off the main road.  Just follow them and set up camp off the road.  Sometimes you’ll even find flat area and fire rings where other people have camped before. If you want to stay at a campsite for longer than one night, then you can scout one out in advance.   The BLM has a really great interactive map. All of the yellow areas on the map are BLM land. [![BLM public land map](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/blm-land-map.jpg "blm land map - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/blm-land-map.jpg) **See the [interactive BLM map](https://blm-egis.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=6f0da4c7931440a8a80bfe20eddd7550%20&extent=-125,%2031.0,%20-114,%2043.0) here.** **See a [PDF version of the map](https://www.blm.gov/sites/blm.gov/files/BLM%20Administrative%20Units%202018%2036X40.pdf) here.** There’s also a great website called Public Lands.  They not only show you public lands, but also let you choose features and facilities. To use it: 1. Go to [http://publiclands.org](http://publiclands.org/) 2. On the lefthand side, select “Go to State” 3. Once the state map is brought up, find the facilities menu and select “primitive campground” 4. Under the public lands menu, select “BLM” [![public lands map](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/public-lands-map.jpg "public lands map - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/public-lands-map.jpg) You don’t have to limit yourself to the primitive campground sites listed on the map.  Other BLM land could be a great camping spot.  Just remember to check beforehand to see if you need a permit or if there are any special restrictions. If you want to find a developed (i.e. paid camping) site on BLM, go to <https://www.blm.gov/programs/recreation/camping> and click on the state you want to visit. \[sta\_anchor id=”privateproperty” /\] ## Free Camping on Private Property [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/camping-in-someones-yard.jpg "camping in someones yard - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/camping-in-someones-yard.jpg)*Camping in someones yard with their permission of course* I now live in Eastern Europe and it’s incredibly easy to find free camping here.  When in small villages, I’ll just ask the homeowner if I can camp in their yard.  Of course, I clarify that I’ll be camping well away from their home and won’t be leaving any mess. I’ve never had anyone say no to me (probably helps that I camp with my daughter).  The only issue I’ve had is that the locals often don’t understand why I’d *want* to camp and invite me to stay the night at their homes, haha! While I’ve never tried this in the USA, I’m sure that the Americans would be just as hospitable.  Plenty of cyclists going on long trips have had great experiences with free camping on private property.   Bear in mind that this is usually only for overnight camping and not longer, recreational trips. There’s also always the option of camping illegally on private property. You can check local real estate websites for [undeveloped land for sale](https://www.mossyoakproperties.com/land-for-sale/) or use Google Satellite maps to see where large, uninhabited properties are located.  But, yes, this always comes with the risk of getting caught. For useful information on how to camp anywhere (and not get busted), check out [this guide by Tom’s Bike Trip](https://tomsbiketrip.com/how-to-camp-anywhere-and-not-get-busted/). Below are some places where you can find free camping on private property. ### Boondockers Welcome I was happy to discover that there is a website for free camping on someone’s property.  It’s called Boondockers Welcome.  Basically, it’s like Couchsurfing but for RVs and campers.  Locals who have a nice yard list themselves as hosts.  Then you can request to stay on their property. While I haven’t tried this website, I’m certain that socializing is expected. People sign up as hosts in order to meet new people.  So, this is not a good option if you want seclusion or a wilderness experience. It costs $25 to sign up with a guest membership.  Check it out here: <https://www.boondockerswelcome.com/> ### Logging Roads Land used by logging companies is technically private property.  They usually are fine with people camping on their land so long as you don’t interfere with their work.  Of course, you should check with them first and stay away from any areas that they will be working in. ### Parking Lot Camping A lot of RV travelers will camp in Walmart parking lots.  There is even an [online directory of Walmarts which allow RV camping](https://www.allstays.com/c/wal-mart-locations.htm).  Apparently you can often camp in casino parking lots too.  There’s a directory for that too [here](http://www.casinocamper.com/). And of course truck stops are an option, if not the nicest option.  You can find a resource with the best trucks stops in the USA here. \[sta\_anchor id=”neighborhood” /\] ## Camping in Your Neighborhood Some of the best camping experiences I’ve had were in small woods and streams near my home. They might not have spectacular vistas, but I was still able to get outdoors and enjoy nature. Best of all, it doesn’t require much planning to camp around your neighborhood.  Bad weather? No big deal – just call off the trip. I bring this up to remind you to *think outside the box*.  The true adventurers are the ones who manage to find excitement in their own backyards. \[sta\_anchor id=”resources” /\] ## Resources for Finding Free Camping Here are some great websites which allow you to search for campsites, including free campsites on public lands. - [Campendium.com](https://www.campendium.com/) (US & Canada): You can search for free camping by state. There’s a mobile app too. - [Publiclands.org](http://publiclands.org/): As mentioned in the BLM camping section, this website has a great interactive map which allows you to search for free and paid camping sites on BLM and National Forest land. - [freecampsites.net](https://freecampsites.net/): This website has a great interactive map.  It allows you to filter an area by free, paid, and permit-required camping.  There are also filters for things like access road (dirt, gravel, asphalt, 4×4) and amenities. - [rvparky.com](http://rvparky.com/): This is an awesome resource for people traveling by RV.  They have an interactive map which lets you filter by public parks, RV parks, casinos with free overnight parking, and much more. - [allstays.com](http://allstays.com/): There is an interactive map of campsites in USA states.  The filters let you look for campsites on public lands, national parks, and state forests.  There’s also an app. **Do you have any tips to add about free camping? Let us know in the comments section below!** ### Not sure what to eat while wild camping? Check out my eBook! It’s got over 50 calorie-dense, lightweight meals for the trail, plus tons of info on backpacking meal planning. [Check out the book here](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/). ![gourmet as heck book](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Gourmet-As-Heck-sidebar.jpg "Gourmet As Heck sidebar - Mom Goes Camping") --- ###### Image credits: “[My Public Lands Magazine, Summer 2014](https://www.flickr.com/photos/mypubliclands/13972922785/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [mypubliclands](https://www.flickr.com/people/mypubliclands/) “[Artist Point parking lot](https://www.flickr.com/photos/daveynin/4764007966/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [daveynin](https://www.flickr.com/people/daveynin/) “[Camping in the High Sierras. 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Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** dispersed camping, free camping, leave no trace, permits, wild camping --- ### [28 Expert Tips for Winter Camping in Snow](https://momgoescamping.com/winter-camping-snow-tips/) **Published:** January 9, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Love camping too much to avoid if for 4-6 months of the year? Winter camping definitely has its perks, like no crowds and beautiful white vistas.  But don’t let all the hype fool you: a winter camping trip and end up completely miserable or be downright dangerous, even if you are a skilled backpacker.  Snow only complicates things further and increases your risk of getting wet and hypothermic.  So, if you are planning a trip, first read these tips for winter camping in the snow. **\*Not sure what to bring on your trip? See this [winter camping gear checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/winter-camping-gear-checklist/).** ## 1. Everything Is More Difficult in the Cold and Snow ![winter hiking and camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/39652542435_d8998d0c8c_z.jpg "winter hiking and camping - Mom Goes Camping") When camping or hiking in winter, the simplest tasks suddenly become difficult and annoying.  Like trying to check your GPS while wearing gloves.  Or setting up a tent with frozen fingers. Or quickly getting exhausted from even slight uphill ascents… To make sure you actually *enjoy* the winter camping trip, don’t be an overachiever.  If trekking to camp, only plan for a few miles per day.  And make sure you give yourself plenty of time to set up camp, especially since the daylight hours are limited in winter. ## 2. Prevent Condensation in the Tent ![condensation in tent in winter](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/condensation-in-tent.jpg "condensation in tent - Mom Goes Camping") One of the biggest risks with winter camping is getting wet at night from condensation. Because the temperature inside the tent is warmer than outside, condensation forms on the walls of the tent.  It freezes and then melts when the sun hits it in the morning, and then drips down on you at night.  You wake up drenched and freezing. The image above shows what a tent looked like after removing the fly.  It was 20F temperatures.   All those little white specks are condensation crystals from breathing! **To prevent condensation inside your tent:** - **Vent the tent.** Most tents provide ZERO insulation (they keep you warm by blocking wind); leaving the door or vents open won’t make you colder. It is better to have some cold air get into the tent than get wet from condensation! - **Use a “candle lantern” or tent heater.** In addition to keeping you warmer, candle lanterns and tent heaters dry out the air in your tent, preventing condensation. See tip #19. - **Put wet clothes in a stuff sack.** Otherwise the moisture from the clothing will escape into the tent. - **Never cook in your tent:** Or, if you must, make sure the door is open so condensation is able to escape. - **Bring a towel for removing condensation.** If you have a pocket at the top of your tent where condensation gathers, you can keep the towel there. It will absorb the condensation before it drips down on you. - **Let your tent fly and groundsheet dry before packing up.** This goes a long way to reducing the amount of moisture in the tent on multi-day trips. --- ## 3. Keeping Your Sleeping Bag Dry at Night ![drying sleeping bag over tent in winter](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/sleeping-bag-snow.jpg "sleeping bag snow - Mom Goes Camping") There are lots of ways your sleeping bag can end up getting wet while winter camping.  Even a bit of dampness can ruin its insulating properties!  You might be able to turn it inside out and dry it on top of your tent, but this is only if there is good sun (not guaranteed in winter!). So it’s better to be cautious and keep your sleeping bag dry. ### Don’t put your face inside the sleeping bag. As tempting as it may be, never wriggle down into your sleeping bag so it covers your face.  Your breath actually contains a lot of vapor and this vapor will get your sleeping bag wet.  Instead, use a balaclava to keep your face warm at night. ### Put a Shell between the Sleeping Bag and Tent Walls If you touch the sides of the tent while sleeping, it will create condensation and a wet spot on your sleeping bag.  A solution is to put a waterproof barrier between your bag and the tent wall. This can be: - Your hardshell jacket on one side of the sleeping bag and your pack at the other side. - Or, if you are tall and have issues with your feet touching the tent wall, you can put just the foot of your sleeping bag into a waterproof. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/sleeping-bag-in-backpack-cold-weather-camping.jpg "put sleeping bag feet into backpack to stay warm - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/sleeping-bag-in-backpack-cold-weather-camping.jpg)Putting your feet into your pack not only keeps them warmer but also keeps your sleeping bag from getting wet from condensation ### Consider a Synthetic Sleeping Bag instead of Down Down sleeping bags are definitely warmer than synthetic bags but down easily turns into a soggy, wet mess.  Unless you are *absolutely sure* you can keep your sleeping bag dry, it’s better to go with synthetic.  If you must, bring two synthetic sleeping bags; put one inside the other for extra warmth. --- ## 4. Use Vapor Barrier Liners Vapor barrier liners (VBL) are a waterproof layer which is used to keep your insulation layers dry.  They can be used for clothing during the day or in your sleeping bag at night.   Here’s how VBLs work: In warm conditions, your base layer wicks water away from your body towards your mid and outer layers.  It then evaporates into the air so you stay dry.  In cold weather though, the lower dew point means the vapor never evaporates.  Instead, it turns into water and drenches your clothes.  By using a vapor barrier liner, you keep moisture from ever making it to your insulating layer so you stay dry. **To use a VBL correctly, wear in this order:** - Base layer - Vapor barrier - Insulating layer - Shell In a down sleeping bag, the VBL goes *inside* the bag.  Never put a VBL over a down bag or it will just trap the moisture in the down bag. ### Downsides of VBLs Vapor barrier liners will keep you dry.  However, they are also non-breathable so trap perspiration against your body. You end up slick and clammy.  Yes, you still stay warm because the insulation layer is dry, but the feeling isn’t great. A lot of people use vinyl gloves as VBLs for their hands.  Or they use plastic bags as VBLs for their boots.  This is fine for short trips.  However, if the VBL is worn for a long time, the skin on your hands/feet gets soft, wrinkled, and is more prone to blistering.  The trapped sweat is also a breeding ground for bacteria, so be prepared for your feet to stink like crazy! ### Guidelines for Using VBLs in Winter - **If bringing lots of backup insulation layers, don’t bother with a VBL**. It’s better to change into dry layers than deal with the clamminess of wearing a VBL. - **Remove VBLs from your hands and feet frequently.** This will allow your hands/feet to air out so the skin doesn’t get saturated and blister. - **Use a VBL for a down sleeping bag on multi-day camping trips.** Perspiration builds up in a down bag after just a few nights! - **Also use VBLs on any trip involving high-intensity activities (lots of sweating) followed by rest.** The VBL is necessary to keep insulation dry. You remove the VBL when you are done with the activity to allow your skin to breathe. For more on this, Andrew Skurka has a [great guide to VBLs](https://andrewskurka.com/vapor-barrier-liners-theory-application/). --- ## 5. Be Extremely Cautious about Putting a Hot Water Bottle in Your Sleeping Bag One of the most common winter camping tips is to put a bottle with hot water into your sleeping bag before bed.  You can insulate the bottle with a wool sock to help it stay hot longer. However, this is a HUGE risk. If your water bottle leaks, your sleeping bag will get wet.  Your sleeping bag is what keeps you alive while winter camping.  Your sleeping bag is going to warm up anyway, so it’s really not worth the risk to get comfortable a bit faster. **Water bottles are especially likely to leak in winter.**  Why? Because water freezes in the threads so the bottle lid doesn’t close properly.  Don’t believe me? Watch this [video of a winter camping trip gone wrong](https://youtu.be/fSl2ogVIhAc?t=1011): one guy’s water bottle leaked and drenched his sleeping bag and pad.  Luckily he had a down suit or probably would have needed emergency evacuation for hypothermia. There’s also the issue of pressure: steam inside your water bottle builds up and can cause the water bottle to crack open or leak. ### **If you absolutely must use a hot water bottle in your sleeping bag, follow these steps:** - Only use water bottles which can handle boiling water. Otherwise they might crack. - Pour the boiling water into the water bottle and close the lid. - Give the bottle a bit of a shake. This will melt any frozen water in the threads. - Open the lid to let pressure escape. - Repeat this 3 more times. This is the only way to ensure there isn’t too much pressure in the bottle. - Keep the water bottle in a wool sock or dry bag to catch any leaks, just in case. --- ## 6. Frozen Boots When camping in winter, your boots will get wet from snow and sweat.  If you weren’t wearing gaiters or a VBL, then they could be *very* wet.  At night, they might freeze into a frozen block. It’s very uncomfortable to put frozen boots on in the morning.  Yes, your boots will “thaw out” once you put them on.  However, depending on the conditions, it could take HOURS thaw out boots and your feet might already have frostbite by then. **To prevent boots from freezing at night:** - Bring a lightweight waterproof bag with you. Or, invert your sleeping bag stuff sack for this purpose. - Put your boots in the bag and then put them in your sleeping bag. - Or wrap the bagged bots in some clothing and use them as a pillow. **If your boots do freeze solid, here’s how to thaw them:** - Put hand warmers into each boot before putting them on. - Or bring two water bottles. Put hot water in the bottles, wrap a sock around the bottles, and put one bottle in each boot. - Have booties () to wear around camp while waiting for boots to thaw. - Don’t use a fire to thaw frozen boots. You’re more likely to melt them. --- ## 7. Keeping Your Clothes Dry To stay warm while camping in winter, you need to be dry.  In this case, prevention is key: It’s a lot easier to stay dry than try to dry wet clothing! **Here’s how to keep clothing dry when winter camping:** - **Resist the urge to wear too many layers.** It’s easy to put on too many layers, especially in the morning before you’ve had to warm up. Then you get active and start sweating through the layers. Only wear the minimal amount of clothing you need to stay comfortable on the move so you don’t sweat too much! - **Use vapor barrier liners for your feet and hands.** Since hands and feet sweat so much, it’s really worth it to use VBLs.  See #4. - **Tuck in and cinch up.** You want to make sure your insulating layers aren’t extending past your shell or they can get covered with snow, which promptly melts and gets your clothes wet. Even if you follow these tips, you can still end up with damp clothing.  Which brings us to… --- ## 8. Drying Clothing Some people recommend wearing damp clothes at night to dry them. Or putting them in your sleeping bag.  The idea is heat from your body will dry out the clothes at night.  However, this is generally a TERRIBLE idea: - **Putting wet clothes into your sleeping bag will make your bag wet**. A wet sleeping bag won’t insulate as well. Since your sleeping bag is keeping you *alive* at night, it’s not worth the risk of getting it wet. - **It probably won’t completely dry the clothes anyway.** You end up with damp clothes and a damp sleeping bag. - **Wearing wet socks at night will saturate your skin.** Your feet get all wrinkly and will blister quickly. ### So how should you deal with wet clothes on a winter camping trip? **Just put on the wet clothes in the morning.**  Once you get active/start hiking, your body heat will dry out the clothes.  And it’s much more comfortable to dry out clothes with your body heat when are you moving around than laying in a damp sleeping bag. As one backpacker pointed out, > “Novices may find the idea of putting wet stuff on in the morning just too horrible to contemplate. But one gets used to it as confident (or experience) grows.” Besides, you probably were just going to get all sweaty again.  So it doesn’t make sense to dry out clothes at night just to get them wet all over again. **\*Note:** If it’s *really* cold, put wet clothes in a sack and put it in your sleeping bag or next to it.  The point isn’t to dry the clothes though; it’s to keep them from freezing solid at night so you can put them on easier the next day.  It’s also easier to put on warm wet clothing than cold wet clothing. --- ## 9. Pack Lots of Extra Socks It’s one thing to put on damp clothing in the morning.  It’s another thing to put on damp socks.  Our feet don’t produce heat like our core does, so you won’t be able to dry out your wet socks with heat from your feet. - Bring two pairs of liner socks *per day*. Put on the second near the end of the day. - If you aren’t using a VBL, then you’ll also want lots of spare insulating socks too. - Have an extra set of liner and insulating socks to wear to bed. - Dry socks in an interior pocket or tucked into your waistband. --- ## 10. The Layering System Applies to Your Hands Too Experienced campers know they need to layer their clothing, but often overlook that this also applies to their hands.  If you want to keep your hands warm, you will need a base, mid, and shell layer!  Some tips: - **Like with socks, you’ll want to bring lots of extra base layer gloves.** Swap these for dry ones as they get wet. - **Dry wet liner gloves in an internal jacket pocket.** - **If you use a VBL, it should be worn *over* the base layer.** Never wear a VBL directly against your hands or they will get clammy, wrinkly, and blister. - **Never wear just your insulating layer.** It will either get wet from snow or sweat, and then your insulating layer is ruined. It *is* okay however to wear 1)just your liner or 2)your liner plus the shell. - **Use clips for your shell mittens.** This will keep your mittens from getting lost when you remove them to do camp tasks. **For more on the layering system, read this post about the [best winter hiking mittens and gloves.](https://momgoescamping.com/best-winter-hiking-gloves/)** --- ## 11. Protect Exposed Skin Cold, dry winter air will quickly chap your exposed skin – especially your lips and around your nose.  This is unsightly and painful!  Use Vaseline to coat all of your exposed skin. I personally break out really easily from Vaseline so instead use a beeswax product to coat my skin. (I like [this one](https://amzn.to/2FyzMjp).) The only issue is it gets really hard in cold weather, so you need to keep it in an interior jacket pocket to warm it before applying. --- ## 12. Clear Snow Under Tent or Not? It is good advice to clear the snow from under the tent before pitching.  This prevents the tent from sinking into a wet puddle as the snow melts.  *However*, clearing snow requires a shovel, takes a lot of effort, and isn’t always necessary. - **Consider your sleeping pad.** If it is a thin pad, then your body heat will melt the snow underneath and cause the tent to sink. If you have a good winter pad, then you probably don’t need to clear the snow. - **Pay attention to the forecast.** If the temperature suddenly gets warmer, the snow under the tent will melt and cause your tent to collapse into a puddle. - **Stomp down snow** if you aren’t going to clear it. This should be enough to keep your tent level overnight.  It also prevents you from tearing a hole through the bottom of the tent when you step into the soft snow! --- ## 13. Tent Pegs in the Snow ![winter camping tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/28251357713_bec2a6f265_z.jpg "winter camping tent - Mom Goes Camping") Pegging down a tent in the snow is really tricky.  Assuming you can access the ground, it will be frozen solid.  You’ll need a hammer to bang them in, and they are likely to bend. It’s also easy to lose pegs in the snow; you will need spares and want to tie bright-colored string to them. Instead of pegs, bring some bags with you.  Fill these with snow or rocks and use them to anchor your tent. --- ## 14. Stoves for Winter Camping Trips - **Forget about gas canister stoves.** These stoves are very inefficient or stop working completely in cold weather. Yes, you can do things like sleep with the canister but it’s not worth the hassle and inefficiency on a true winter camping trip. - **Use white gas instead.** This fuel works well in sub-freezing temperatures. It actually ends up being cheaper because it is so much more efficient than gas canisters in winter. - **Remember extra fuel for melting snow.** It takes a lot of fuel to melt snow for water, so be sure you have budgeted enough. - **Don’t forget about your stove sinking.** The heat from your stove will melt the snow underneath. Either clear the snow underneath it or have a small insulated pad to put it on. --- ## 15. Calculate 4,000+ Calories of Food Per Day Your body will burn through fuel quickly to stay warm, and from the extra effort it takes to hike through snow.  It’s likely you will need at least 4,000 calories of food per day.  If you are a larger person or doing really intense activities, you might need 6,000+ calories per day ([source](http://www.d.umn.edu/~tbates/pep3507-1/WinterCampingNutrition.pdf)). How many calories of food to bring?  [One study found](https://www.statnews.com/2017/12/20/exercising-cold-calories-burned/) people used 34% more calories when hiking in at temperatures of 15-23F compared to 50F.   [Other research](https://www.active.com/nutrition/articles/winter-and-nutrition-fueling-for-cold-weather-exercise) puts the number at 23% and the Army only calculates 10% more calories for soldiers exercising in cold weather. Use **[this calculator to figure out how much food to bring backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/how-much-food-bring-backpacking-calculator/)** on a warm-weather trip. Then budget 25-50% more calories.  It’s better to play it safe than sorry! \*Not sure how to pack all of these calories of food? [**Check out my ebook.**](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/)  It has 50+ calorie-dense backpacking recipes you can make on your dehydrator plus lots of advice on planning backpacking meals. ![backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/backpacking-dehydrator-recipes-ebook.jpg "backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook - Mom Goes Camping") --- ## 16. Bring a Piss Bottle Getting up in the middle of the night to pee in winter is no fun.  But it’s also not fun to lie in your sleeping bag unable to sleep because you have to piss so badly but don’t want to leave the warmth.   The solution?  A piss bottle. A wide-mouthed Nalgene bottle works best for this.  Ladies – you can use a [Go Girl urination device](https://amzn.to/2FKICuF) to pee directly into the bottle instead of risk peeing all over yourself.   Remember to label the bottle so you don’t accidentally drink from it! ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/go-girl.jpg "go girl - Mom Goes Camping")This device makes it possible for ladies to pee into a bottle --- ## 17. Pooping in the Snow Leave No Trace still applies in winter!  Ideally, you should always pack out your human waste.  However, the [LNT](https://lnt.org/14-winter-recreation-tips/) does say it is okay to bury poo in snow if you can’t pack it out. Remember that the poo will still be there when the snow starts melting, and will be a disgusting sight for other nature-lovers.  Be sure you bury your poo deep in snow and FAR AWAY from trail routes.  It also needs to be 200 feet from water sources. Toilet paper and wipes still need to be packed out.  Bring doubled zip-lock bags for this.  You can cover the exterior bag in duct tape so the contents aren’t visible. Or line the bag with foil so you can’t see inside. **\*When pooping off-trail, be sure you can find your way back.**  It is very easy to get lost in the snowy whiteness!  Tie a bright-colored bandana to a tree within visibility of your bathroom spot, or make sure your hiking buddy stays in view. --- ## 18. Don’t Forget about Campsite/Trailhead Access An easy thing to overlook is how you will get to the campsite.  Lots of roads – especially to less popular trailheads – are not plowed in winter.  Even if they do get plowed, it might not be very often.  You could end up with your vehicle stuck somewhere until spring.  So do your research about road access before setting off! Oh, and this would be a good time to add **keep an emergency kit in your vehicle** (which is something you have anyway, right?).  If you get stranded, you should be able to survive for several days or even weeks until you can get out. --- ## 19. Bring a Candle Lantern There’s a lot of debate about how much a candle lantern can really heat up your tent.  Depending on the amount of ventilation, the R-value of your tent, and size of the candle, it could be several degrees or nearly nothing. However, it’s still worth it to bring a candle lantern on your winter camping trip.  The light from the candle does wonders to improve morale at night and lets you cozy up with a good book while waiting out the darkness. Candles also significantly reduce condensation in the tent, which is especially helpful if you need to dry damp clothes in the tent. **Candle lanterns in tents are safe, but you should still be cautious.** - **You must vent your tent** a bit whenever burning fuel (stove, heater, candle, etc.). Incomplete combustion creates carbon monoxide gas which can poison you! You should be venting your tent a bit during winter anyway to prevent condensation. - **Don’t put the candle in front of the tent door**. If a fire breaks out, you want to be able to escape. - **Obviously keep the candle lantern hanging away from the tent walls or somewhere it could be bumped.** And never fall asleep with the lantern burning! \*UCO candle lanterns are by far the most popular option.  Check out the options . --- ## 20. Apply Waterproofing before Your Trip You should regularly reapply the waterproof coating to your camping gear.  Even if you’ve done it recently, you’ll still want to reapply before a winter camping trip.  This is not the time to have a leaky tent or jacket! --- ## 21. Use Lithium Batteries Only use lithium batteries on gear when camping in winter.  While they aren’t rechargeable like NiMH batteries, they perform a heck of a lot better in cold weather. [Energizer Ultimate Lithium cells](https://amzn.to/2t0CSKk) (Amazon) work well in temperatures down to -40F and come in AA and AAA sizes. If you absolutely want to use rechargeables, then go with [Enloop NiMH LSD batteries](https://amzn.to/36D4ML1) (Amazon).  They actually perform well in cold weather. But it’s still a good idea to keep a set of lithium primaries as a backup. --- ## 22. Don’t Let Your Water Bottle Freeze or Leak A few things about water bottles for winter camping and hiking: - **Don’t use a metal bottle.** Your bottle lid will freeze shut, or it will start rusting.  Insulated thermoses are usually okay if you aren’t backpacking and worried about weight.  Just make sure the bottle says it is “freezer safe” or the expanding water could damage the seal and cause it to leak. - **Choose a glove-friendly lid.** Try opening a water bottle with fluffy mittens! It really helps to have a large lid. A large lid also makes it easier to pour boiling water into the bottle. - **Keep your water bottle inside your jacket.** This prevents it from freezing. - **Flip your water bottle.** Ice first forms on the top of water. If you flip it over at night, the lid is less likely to be frozen shut. - **Don’t overfill your water bottle.** Leave lots of headroom in your bottle. [Water expands by approximately 9-10% when frozen](https://www.sciencefacts.net/why-does-water-expand-when-it-freezes.html). Read this post for [the best winter hiking water bottles](https://momgoescamping.com/water-bottles-insulators-winter/) plus how to keep water from freezing. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Liberty-Mountain-Relags.jpg "Liberty Mountain Relags - Mom Goes Camping")The hunesdorf bottle also called Relags bottle is by far considered the best winter hiking water bottle [Get it here](https://amzn.to/2t4BNkL) --- ## 23. Winter Camping Clothing Tricks - **Invest in wool base layers.** Synthetics also work for base layers, but winter camping is a situation where you really want wool. Wool is warmer, wicks moisture better, still insulates well when wet, and doesn’t smell nearly as bad as synthetics!  Seriously, your tent will stink with synthetics in it. - **Keep clothing loose to create a “chimney.”** Loose clothing will trap air and keep your circulation going. It also allows warm air from your body to flow upwards to warm your face. - **Don’t cover your mouth.** As tempting as it will be, don’t cover your mouth or even your chin. Condensation from your breath will moisten the balaclava or buff, causing ice to form over it and give you frostbite. - **Wear suspenders instead of a belt.** It’s a lot more comfortable and allows heat to travel up towards your core. - **Hardshell is probably better than softshell.** Softshell jackets only keep you warm while you are active. Once you stop moving, you will get cold quickly. So think about your type of trip and whether it makes sense to bring a soft or hardshell jacket. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/good-base-layers.jpg "base layers for winter camping - Mom Goes Camping")Me in my [Kari Traa Merino base layers](https://momgoescamping.com/kari-traa-base-layers-review/)  Also read [Is Merino Wool really worth it](https://momgoescamping.com/is-merino-wool-worth-it/) --- ## 24. Melting Snow for Water (Don’t Destroy Your Pot!) Chances are you will be melting snow as your water source.  Always remember to leave about a half cup of water as a “starter” for the next batch.  Why?  If you just pile snow into your pot, the bottom of the pot will come in direct contact with very hot flames without a way to transfer the heat upwards.  You will end up warping your pot!!!  Plus, melting snow goes a lot faster if there is already a bit of water in the pot. --- ## 25. Gear You Absolutely Must Bring for Winter Camping ![winter camping gear](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/32407297934_5ab403dd1b_z.jpg "winter camping gear - Mom Goes Camping") In addition to the normal gear you need for camping, this gear is absolutely necessary.  Depending on the type of trip, you might also need other gear like ice picks, snow shoes, and avalanche probes. - **Snow shovel.** You’ll need this for packing or clearing snow from under your tent, digging a scat hole, transporting water to melt, packing down a cooking surface, and much more. - **Insulated butt pad.** Where the heck do you plan on sitting while cooking or resting during breaks on your hike? Absolutely bring an insulated butt pad! - **Traction for your boots.** Trails are extra slick during winter and can be dangerous. Play it safe and get traction like crampons for your boots. - **Insulated camp shoes or booties.** After a long day of hiking in snow boots, you’ll be happy to have soft, warm booties to put on so your feet can breathe or are popular. - **Spare socks, mittens, and hat.** Mittens and hats easily get lost and can mean frostbite. Likewise, your toes will get cold even in the best winter hiking boots if your socks are drenched. Play it safe and bring spares! - **Tent brush.** It’s likely ice crystals will form on the wall of your tent. When the morning sun hits the tent, the ice crystals will melt and drench your gear.  A small brush lets you remove the ice and sweep it out of the tent before it has time to melt. - **Water bottle insulator.** These keep your water from freezing. It’s also more enjoyable to drink hot water during your hike.  Drinking cold water will lower your body temperature. The **Granite Gear Air Coolers** work well. - **Sun block and sunglasses.** It is easy to forget about these in winter.  But the sun becomes very intense when it reflects against the snow.  Without sunglasses you lose visibility.  Without sun block, you end up with a raccoon-like burn mark over your face. - **Lots of hand warmers.** Aside from making your winter camping trip more comfortable, these could save your fingers or toes from frostbite. - **Rubber gloves (if you’ll need to refill your stove).** [White gas can “supercool”](https://www.princeton.edu/~oa/safety/hypocold.shtml) in cold weather. If spill liquid fuel on your hands while refueling, you can get instant frostbite on your hands. - **Trekking poles with snow baskets.** - **Emergency food**, such as gels or lots of extra chocolate for helping you fight hypothermia. - **GPS:** It’s easy to get lost in a white winter wonderland. Make sure you have a GPS in addition to your map and compass. --- ## 26. Consider Morale One thing about winter camping in the snow which doesn’t get talked about much is how boring it can get.  The daylight hours are very short and the nights are very long.   Assuming you are done with camp tasks and dinner by 7pm, you’ve still got nearly 12 hours until sunrise!  You could go to bed early, but then you’ll wake up at 4am with nothing to do. **To keep the winter nights from getting boring or downright depressing, bring:** - **A lantern.** The light at night really improves mood! Wind-up lanterns are great because you don’t have to worry about extra batteries and winding gives you something to do. - **Entertainment**, like a book, radio, or deck of cards. Preferably it’s something you can do while wearing gloves. - **Really good food.** You’ll enjoy the night more when you’ve got a badass hot meal to eat. - **Whiskey.** Or, something to smoke is lighter weight than alcohol. 😉 Plus it won’t make you have to pee a zillion times like alcohol does. --- ## 27. It’s Not Cheating! It is not “cheating” to bring things like hand warmers or a tent heater.  I know a lot of people try to prove how hardcore they are by going minimalist on their winter camping trips, but what’s the point if you aren’t going to enjoy it? Read this post about [**the best tent heaters and how to use them safely**](https://momgoescamping.com/best-safe-tent-heaters/). --- ## 28. Have an Exit Plan I always think “worst case scenario” and have an exit plan on my backpacking trips.  In winter, an exit plan is even more important. - If you are new to winter camping, then don’t set up camp too far away from your vehicle in case you need to make a hasty exit. - Make sure you have survival provisions in your vehicle, especially if you end up spending the night there. - Bring an emergency communication device, such as a [personal beacon locator](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-communication-devices/) (the SPOT device is great). This allows you to call for help regardless of where you are. **Bonus tip:** The [Winter Camping guide by NOLS](https://amzn.to/35IhN4Q) (National Outdoor Leadership School) is one of the best books on the subject.  I highly suggest you give it a read before going on a winter camping adventure. ### **Have you gone winter camping in snow?  Let us know your tips in the comments section below.**  --- **Resources for this article include:** <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.backcountry/VMopJKeqTrA> <https://3rdmilleniaexplorer.wordpress.com/2013/03/14/winter-camping-managing-condensation/> <https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/55973/> <https://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/hill_talk/winter_wildcamping_-_any_advice-635330> <https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/heating-your-tent-with-a-candle-or-oil-lantern/> <https://www.outsideonline.com/1773336/are-candle-lanterns-safe-use-tents> <https://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?296372-Cold-weather-AA-NiMH-performance> <https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/5kc6p2/winter_camping_unconventional_or_unknown_tips_and/> <https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/28004/> **Image credits:** “[Tent](https://www.flickr.com/photos/blachswan/28251357713/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [blachswan](https://www.flickr.com/people/blachswan/)“[NZ \| camping](https://www.flickr.com/photos/130089789@N02/21631345586/)” ([CC BY-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/2.0/)) by [thestritzi](https://www.flickr.com/people/130089789@N02/)“[Safety tent](https://www.flickr.com/photos/evilmutent/14694765470/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [hugochisholm](https://www.flickr.com/people/evilmutent/)“camping!” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) “[A little breezy down low (by J. Valdez)](https://www.flickr.com/photos/flickbergers/39652542435/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Tim Berger](https://www.flickr.com/people/flickbergers/) “[the 2 place-tent of Andreï at Camp3](https://www.flickr.com/photos/twiga_269/5192447061/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [twiga269 ॐ FEMEN](https://www.flickr.com/people/twiga_269/) “[Sarek NP (S) – Full moon](https://www.flickr.com/photos/lapland/6975780865/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Michiel van Nimwegen](https://www.flickr.com/people/lapland/) “[Condensation crystals on my tent](https://www.flickr.com/photos/alanenglish/3513928691/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Al\_HikesAZ](https://www.flickr.com/people/alanenglish/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** snow, winter --- ### [Camping Neighbors from Hell: Worst Campground Etiquette](https://momgoescamping.com/bad-camping-etiquette/) **Published:** May 12, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** It used to be that people went camping to get outdoors and connect with nature.  Now, camping is becoming increasingly popular, especially as a way to have a cheap vacation.  As a result, you’ll encounter a lot more bad camping etiquette at campgrounds. Read more about tricky camping situations below: - [Complete Guide to Camping in the Rain](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-in-the-rain/) — - [How to Plan Your First Camping Trip with Kids](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-plan-your-first-camping-trip-with-kids-a-moms-guide/) Don’t get me wrong.  There’s no “right” or “wrong” way to camp. Who am I to judge you if you want to bring an AC unit, watch movies on an iPad or listen to music while camping? However you want to camp is fine – but there is one catch: You MUST be respectful to your neighbors and nature! This list of the most annoying things campers do was taken from comments in Reddit and various forums as well as my own experience.   Keep these etiquette rules in mind the next time you stay at a campground so *you* don’t become the camping neighbor from hell!!! ## 1. Playing Loud Music This is by far the biggest complaint people have about camping neighbors.  People go camping to enjoy nature, not to listen to your obnoxious techno music (or rap, country, pop music…). Most campgrounds have rules about quiet hours.  If you are playing music *after* these quiet hours, then you are a particularly large jerk.  But it’s also annoying to hear music during the daytime too.   If you must play music, the polite thing to do is keep the volume low enough so it can’t be heard beyond your campsite. ## 2. Walking through Other People’s Campsites I don’t care how much shorter the trip is.  It is bad camping etiquette to take shortcuts through other people’s campsites! ## 3. Littering In my experience, this is mostly a problem with college-age kids drinking beer.  A beer bottle will break and they will just leave the glass laying there (for someone else to get cut on or rip the bottom of someone’s tent).  But I’ve also heard stories of camping neighbors from hell who left trash all over their campsite.  Gross! ## 4. Letting Your Kids Wander to Other Campsites As a mother, I know this is a tricky one.  On one hand, I want my daughters to learn how to interact politely with strangers and make new friends at camp.  But I also know that kids can be incredibly annoying.  Unfortunately, too many parents (whether they realize they are doing it or not) use other campers as free babysitters for their kids. Try to make sure your kids know some boundaries before you let them wander around camp.  They generally should never go to campsites where there aren’t other kids.  Even then, your kids should ask if it’s okay for them to come over.  *And*, if they do go over, they should only stay long enough to make plans to play with the kids at your own campsite or a common area of the camp.                                            **Taking the kids camping for the first time?** My “Your Family’s First Camping Trip” bundle has the complete guide, printable packing checklist, and three done-for-you itineraries — everything from booking the site to the drive home. **[                                                                 Get the bundle →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/1stcampingtrip)** ## 5. Letting Your Dog Have Free Range of the Campground I’m not sure what’s more annoying: other people’s kids running around or their dogs.  While I am an animal lover, I am really starting to hate dog owners.  Just because *they* think their dog is cute and can do no harm, it doesn’t mean I want their dog slobbering all over me.  It’s particularly annoying when a dog runs up to you while you are cooking or eating.  So keep your dog at your own campsite or on a leash!!!  And don’t forget about the [etiquette of hiking with a dog](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-with-dog/). ## 6. Running Generators ALL DAY LONG Just because generators are *allowed* during certain times of the day, it doesn’t mean you should use them for the entire time.  It is incredibly annoying to listen to the loud humming of a generator. Yes, I understand that this falls into the “no wrong way to camp” argument.  Some people want their laptops, TVs and game consoles while camping.  Fine.  Some people may have medical equipment and need to run a generator all day.  Obviously also fine.  But if you know that you’ll have a generator going all day, maybe you should choose a campground tailored to RVs and not tent campers. ## 7. Blindingly Bright Lights Obviously it’s fine to use a flashlight when you need to walk around camp at night.  But you do NOT need a 10 billion candle lamp which will light up every campsite around you – and probably blind people with the sudden burst of light as you pass.  It’s rude and unnecessary. ## 8. Horn Beeping when Lock/Unlock Here’s an annoying thing that a lot of campers do without even realizing it.  For starters, you don’t even need to lock your car if it is 10 feet away from you.  And why are you getting stuff from your car every 20 minutes anyway?   If you really need to get stuff from your car constantly and are in the habit of keeping it locked, then DISABLE THE HORN HONK FEATURE. ## 9. Harming Trees I’m not even going to get started on all the jerks who carve their names into trees.  What also drives me crazy is campers who bring saws and axes to cut down tree branches for firewood. Cutting branches off trees not only destroys nature, but cut branches don’t even make good firewood.  As I talk about [here](https://momgoescamping.com/things-never-bring-camping-backpacking/), there’s absolutely no reason to bring a saw camping.  And the only reason to bring an axe is to cut firewood that you purchased *at the campground.*  Read more about [how to responsibly use an axe when camping](https://momgoescamping.com/best-camping-hatchets/). ## 10. Swearing and Bad Language This one doesn’t get a lot of attention but is really annoying to some campers – especially to parents with little kids.  Be courteous and avoid cursing.  And, if I can *hear* you cursing, then you are probably talking too loud anyway.  Be quieter! ## 11. Loud Alerts on Phone This is a personal pet peeve of mine.  If you must bring your phone, fine.  But make sure those annoying dings and buzzes are turned off (or low enough that I can’t hear them the next campsite over).  It really ruins my camping experience to be reminded of all the emails and messages that will be waiting for me when I get back. ## 12. Yelling I know we are outside, but you still need to use your *inside* voice when camping.  Don’t shout across the campground for your partner to bring you something from the car or for your kids to stop doing xyz.  If you have something to say, then walk over to the person so you can say it in a voice that won’t reverberate across the entire campground. ## Campground Etiquette FAQ: #### What are the most important campground etiquette rules? Quiet hours are non-negotiable  if the campground posts them, follow them, full stop. Beyond that: contain your kids and your dog to your own site, keep your generator use to the minimum you actually need, and pack out everything you brought in. Most campground conflicts come down to one group deciding their fun is more important than everyone else’s peace. #### What time do quiet hours usually start at campgrounds? Most US campgrounds set quiet hours between 10pm and 6am or 7am, though it varies by campground. Some start as early as 9pm. Check the specific campground rules when you book  and remember that quiet hours or not, sounds carry further at a campsite than most people expect. #### Is it rude to walk through someone else’s campsite? Yes. Even if their site is between you and where you’re going, go around. A campsite is someone’s temporary home for the trip walking through it uninvited is the campground equivalent of cutting through someone’s backyard. #### How do you handle loud camping neighbors? Start politely a friendly “hey, could you keep it down a bit?” works most of the time. People are often unaware of how far sound carries. If that doesn’t work, involve the campground host or ranger. Don’t escalate it yourself; campground hosts are there exactly for this reason and most will handle it quickly. #### Can you bring a generator to a campground? Usually yes, during designated hours but check the specific rules before you go. The etiquette point is that being *allowed* to run a generator doesn’t mean running it all day is considerate. If you need power for medical equipment or work, great. If you’re running it to watch Netflix, your fellow campers will notice. **What bad camping behavior irritates you the most? Let us know in the comments section below.** Image credit:”[camping fail](https://www.flickr.com/photos/brookpeterson/4146284092/)” ([CC BY-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/2.0/)) by [brookpeterson](https://www.flickr.com/people/brookpeterson/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids --- ### [How to Wash Dishes When Camping (3 Bin Method)](https://momgoescamping.com/wash-dishes-camping/) **Published:** October 5, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Washing dishes is one of those camp chores which can go horribly wrong.   Imagine dirty dish water splashed over your clothes, insects feeding on food particles, or even bears getting attracted to your campsite. Here is a very simple but effective method for washing dishes when camping. ## How to Wash Dishes when Camping (3 Bin Method) ### **You will need:** - **Three basins:** These are your “sinks.” [Collapsible basins](https://momgoescamping.com/portable-camp-sinks/) work well for this. - **Drying rack or fourth basin:** There are also collapsible dish drying racks (like [this one](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07Y8QJ6GN/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07Y8QJ6GN&linkId=32bfd25051058b056456fb0923291f76)) which are perfect for camping. - **Biodegradable soap** - **Sponge** ### **Instructions:** [![how to wash dishes camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/how-to-wash-dishes-camping.jpg "how to wash dishes camping - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/how-to-wash-dishes-camping.jpg) ### 1. Wash Basin - This basin contains hot water and a small amount of dish soap. You do NOT need a lot of soap.  Three drops is enough! - Dunk dish into the basin. - Remove dish from water and scrub with sponge. - Dunk again to remove bits of food. --- ### 2. Rinse Basin Dunk the dish in the rinse sink to remove particles of food and dsoap. --- ### 3. Cold Rinse Basin - This basin contains cold water. You can also add bleach to disinfect your dishes. Use 1 Tbsp of bleach per gallon of water. - Dunk the dish in the basin. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/9250353847_afa4a41252_c.jpg "washing dishes at large camp - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/9250353847_afa4a41252_c.jpg)*This is a perfect setup for washing camp dishes for a large group The last basin is for drying clean dishes*![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/messy-camp-dish-washing-station-setup.jpg "messy camp dish washing station setup - Mom Goes Camping")*NOT a good setup This dishwashing station is too low full of clutter and there is nowhere to put the clean dishes* ## Tips - **Make sure dishes are as clean as possible *before* you start washing.** It’s okay to lick your dishes when camping.  It makes cleanup a lot easier.  Otherwise, scrape all food bits into the trash. - **Elevate the sinks so you don’t have to hunch over.** A picnic table works well for this.  Or maybe you want a [folding camp kitchen with a built-in sink](https://momgoescamping.com/best-portable-camping-kitchens/). - **Use the campground dish washing station if there is one.** You don’t want to lug basins of water across camp if you don’t have to! - **Properly dispose of the food scraps and dirty water:** Leaving these on the ground can cause critters to come to your campsite. - **Make a plan for draining the water.** Camp sinks are very heavy when full.  It is almost impossible to carry them without splashing water all over yourself (which is particularly disgusting when its dirty dish water).  One solution is to use [camp sinks which have a drain](https://momgoescamping.com/portable-camp-sinks/).  This allows you to drain the water into a bucket for easier carrying or drain directly onto the ground. ![creativeware sink with drain spigot](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/creativeware-sink-300x221.jpg "creativeware sink - Mom Goes Camping")*This sturdy camp sink has a built in drain It comes in two sizes 44 gallons and 85 gallons*  [*Get it he*re](https://amzn.to/2FRuwuU) --- ###### Image credits: “[Breakfast Dishes](https://www.flickr.com/photos/bennettanneb/2248203342/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Anne Bennett](https://www.flickr.com/people/bennettanneb/), “[ ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/cutey5/9250353847/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [ezola](https://www.flickr.com/people/cutey5/), “[Matt doing dishes](https://www.flickr.com/photos/lsiegert/2687618150/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [lsiegert](https://www.flickr.com/people/lsiegert/), “[KP](https://www.flickr.com/photos/heraldpost/2957232265/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [heraldpost](https://www.flickr.com/people/heraldpost/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** kitchen, sink --- ### [Is It Really Warmer Inside a Tent?](https://momgoescamping.com/is-it-warmer-inside-a-tent/) **Published:** November 12, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** If you’ve ever gone camping in the cold, you know that it is at least slightly warmer inside the tent than outside.  The blast of cold air that hits your face when you unzip the tent is clear data!  Despite this, it generally isn’t a good idea to rely on your tent to keep you warm. Before you go cold weather camping, here’s what you need to know about how much warmer it really is inside your tent vs. outside, plus info on 3-season and 4-season tent inside temperatures,  whether single or double layer tents are better, how tent size affects warmth and how to make your tent warmer. ## Quick answer: Three-season tents are usually only about 5 degrees F warmer inside than outside.  Winter tents are better designed to trap heat and are typically 10-15 degrees warmer inside. Insulated or expedition tents can be over 25F warmer inside. However, because of condensation issues, you generally shouldn’t rely on your tent for warmth.  It’s your sleeping bag and pad which really keep you warm. **Also Read:** - [**How cold is too cold for tent camping?**](https://momgoescamping.com/how-cold-is-too-cold-for-tent-camping/) - **[Expert Tips for Camping in Winter](https://momgoescamping.com/winter-camping-snow-tips/)** ## A Tent Isn’t Supposed to Keep You Warm As a camper, you probably already know about layering systems for your clothes. - **Base layer:** Wicks sweat away from your body to keep you dry - **Mid layer:** Fluffy layer to provide insulation and trap heat - **Shell layer:** Protects against the elements The same layering system also applies to your sleep setup.  Your PJs are your base layer, your sleeping bag and pad are the mid layer.  And your tent is the shell layer. Just like with shell clothing, the tent isn’t supposed to keep you warm.  Instead, it *indirectly* keeps you warm by blocking wind so heat isn’t lost from the mid layer. The shell also keeps you dry so you don’t get cold from evaporative heat loss. ## Will Body Heat Warm Up a Tent? When at rest, the human body produces approximately 80 to 120 watts per hour. If the tent is well-sealed, it can trap this heat. This effectively allows the air inside the tent to act as an extra insulation layer and increase temperatures 5-15F without any extra heating. ([1](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3610667/), [2](http://large.stanford.edu/courses/2016/ph240/stevens1/), [3](http://large.stanford.edu/courses/2014/ph240/labonta1/), [4](https://mithras.tech/2019/04/17/can-human-body-heat-provide-the-world-with-energy/)) **Notes:** - By comparison, a candle produces approximately 40 watts of energy. - If you have a really good sleeping bag, your tent won’t get much warmer.  The sleeping bag will trap body heat inside so it never makes it to the tent area. ### If Your Tent Traps Heat, It Also Traps Moisture Any tent which can trap heat will also trap vapor in the air.  A human expels approximately 15ml (0.5oz) of water per hour during sleep.  When the hot vapor touches the cold exterior of your tent, condensation forms. It might not seem like a lot, but all that vapor can create a serious condensation problem.  You can end up with condensation raining down on you from above.  This causes you to get wet which in turn leads to evaporative heat loss and potential hypothermia. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/tent-condensation-ice-form-on-inner-layer.jpg "tent condensation ice form on inner layer - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/tent-condensation-ice-form-on-inner-layer.jpg)*Ice crystals from condensation seen on the inner tent after the fly was removed there was more condensation on the outer fly* ## Temperature Inside 3-Season Tent vs. Outside Three-season tents are generally designed with ventilation in mind.  They don’t trap warmth well and add very little in terms of warmth. Most of this anecdotal evidence shows that the temperature inside the tent got to approximately 5 degrees warmer.  Some claim that their 3-season tents were 10F warmer inside.  Yet there are others who said that there was absolutely no difference between the temperatures inside and outside. ([5](https://www.campingforums.com/forum/forum/camping-chat/tent-camping/6455-is-there-such-thing-as-a-warm-6-8-person-tent), [6](https://www.vftt.org/forums/showthread.php?1619-Warmer-inside-a-tent-yeah-right), [7](https://www.reddit.com/r/camping/comments/3mpkyv/any_options_for_heating_a_tent_that_wont_result/), [8](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/b7wr1l/resources_on_tent_warmth/)) ## How Much Warmer Are 4-Season Tents? [![how much warmer are winter tents](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/how-much-warmer-are-winter-tents.jpg "how much warmer are winter tents - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/how-much-warmer-are-winter-tents.jpg) Unlike 3-season tents, many 4-season tents are actually designed to trap heat.  They are made from thicker materials which prevent heat transfer.  Vents, windows and doors can be completely closed to keep wind from blowing heat away. Expect it to be 5-10 degrees F warmer inside a 4-season tent versus the outside temperature.  Expedition tents and insulated tents can be 15+ degrees F warmer inside than outside temperatures. **\*[Check REI outlet for discounts on winter camping tents](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Frei-garage).** ### Some Data: - **Exped Sirius**: Anecdotal [report](https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/65478/) says that this winter tent gets 10-15F warmer inside when it is 30F outside. - **Crua insulated tent:** According to their own tests, their insulated tent was approximately 25F warmer inside when outside temps were 20F. - **Arctic pyramid tent:** A [study](https://ir.canterbury.ac.nz/bitstream/handle/10092/14185/Wagner%2c%20Matt%20K220%20Energy%20Audit.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y) found that, when the temperature outside was approx. 21F, the temperature inside the tents increased to approx. 40F – an increase of nearly 20 degrees F. - **Refugee tent:** [This report](https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Duaa-Dashti-2/publication/344371334_Final_Report_for_4_Seasons_Tent/links/5f6d227d299bf1b53ef09f2d/Final-Report-for-4-Seasons-Tent.pdf) found that cabin-style tents for refugees were approximately 48F inside versus 35F outside –  an increase of 13 degrees. ## Are Double-Wall or Single-Wall Tents Warmer? Single layer tents are warmer than double-layer tents because they are fewer places for wind to get in.  However, this usually means they trap moisture too – leading to serious condensation issues in cold weather. Only use a single-layer tent in cold weather if it has good ventilation. Because of condensation issues, double-layer tents are almost always the better choice for camping in the cold. The mesh layer inside a double-wall tent allows moisture to escape. Some double-layer tents also have flies which go all the way to the ground.  This effectively traps the air between the two layers.  The air acts as an insulation layer and your tent will be much warmer. ([9](https://www.reddit.com/r/CampingGear/comments/9pip1h/is_a_double_or_single_wall_tent_best_for_winter/), [10](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/1krzvn/do_you_use_a_singlewalled_tent_why_or_why_not/), [11](https://bushcraftusa.com/forum/threads/are-double-wall-tents-4-season-much-warmer-than-single-wall.290826/), [12](https://www.quora.com/How-much-warmer-would-it-be-in-a-3-season-tent-than-outside-if-it-was-winter), [13](https://outdoors.stackexchange.com/questions/21075/will-i-be-warmer-in-my-sleeping-bag-inside-or-outside-of-my-tent-when-winter-ca)) ## Are Smaller Tents Warmer? Small tents are theoretically warmer because there is less space inside to warm with your body heat.  However, this theory only holds up if your tent can actually trap the body heat inside.  Since most tents can’t trap heat efficiently, it doesn’t make sense to buy a smaller tent because you hope it will be warmer. If warmth is your primary concern and you are camping with multipole people, it often makes more sense to get a larger tent.  It will be much safer to use a gas heater or candle heater inside a large tent than a cramped small tent.  You’ll also find it easier to stay away from the sides of the tent, thus reducing contact with condensation. There are exceptions though — When camping in serious snow, it is a lot easier to set up camp with a small tent or bivvy! ![small or large tent for cold weather camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/small-or-large-tent-cold-weather-camping.jpg "small or large tent cold weather camping - Mom Goes Camping") ## Tips for Making Your Tent Warmer ### Seal Sides with Snow or Debris With two-layer tents, wind can blow in through the gap between the two layers.  Pile snow or leaf debris around the edge of the tent.  This will create a seal to keep wind out. [![sealing the edge of tent with snow](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/40276804725_4c6d525215_k.jpg "sealing the edge of tent with snow - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/40276804725_4c6d525215_k.jpg) ### Keep Tent Out of Wind You’d be amazed at how much heat the wind can carry away from inside your tent.  Consider pitching your tent next to a natural wind break, like between trees. [![winter tent with tree wind break](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/tent-in-trees.jpg "tent in trees - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/tent-in-trees.jpg) ### Cover Inner Tent If your two-layer tent has a lot of mesh, then wind will get into the tent and make you feel cold.  A cheap, simple solution is to cover the inner tent with a windproof material. Then pitch the fly over this. Some materials are reflective and (theoretically) bounce body heat back towards you.  Make sure the reflective side is facing inwards. **Recommendations for covers include:** - Reflectix insulation - Aluminet - Mylar blankets - Nylon tarp \*Attach anchors to the cover so it doesn’t blow away.  If it doesn’t have grommets, you can put a stone in one corner and tie rope around this. ### Use a Tent Heater If it is seriously cold, then consider getting a tent heater.  Candle heaters are cheap and small enough to be used in backpacking tents.  Some gas heaters ([like these](https://momgoescamping.com/best-safe-tent-heaters/)) can safely be used in larger tents and there are also winter tents which have holes for placing wood stoves. [![heater in winter tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/42346232161_5c19255ca4_c.jpg "heater in winter tent - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/42346232161_5c19255ca4_c.jpg) ## **The bottom line?**  Unless you are willing to invest in a good winter tent with lots of ventilation and/or insulation, don’t rely on your tent to keep you warm.  Your sleeping bag and pad are what really matter – and it’s probably cheaper to upgrade these than buy a winter tent. --- Other sources: <https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/b7wr1l/resources_on_tent_warmth/> https://en.cnki.com.cn/Article\_en/CJFDTotal-JZKX201012014.htm <https://thedyrt.com/forums/t/keeping-your-tent-warm/1253/23> **<https://thedyrt.com/forums/t/keeping-your-tent-warm/1253/23>** Image credits: “[Condensation crystals on my tent](https://www.flickr.com/photos/alanenglish/3513928691/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Al\_HikesAZ](https://www.flickr.com/people/alanenglish/), “[Polaris](https://www.flickr.com/photos/strychnine/3722722008/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Strychnine](https://www.flickr.com/people/strychnine/), “[Mt. Ichankoppe ski touring and winter ca](https://www.flickr.com/photos/14degrees/40276804725/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Robert Thomson](https://www.flickr.com/people/14degrees/), “[P1010111](https://www.flickr.com/photos/arollinger/3358676527/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [Andrew Rollinger](https://www.flickr.com/people/arollinger/), “[Snow Camp](https://www.flickr.com/photos/blachswan/20735597620/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [blachswan](https://www.flickr.com/people/blachswan/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** tent, winter --- ### [Complete Guide to Camping in the Rain: Tips and Gear for Wet Weather](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-in-the-rain/) **Published:** November 27, 2015 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Over the years, I’ve been on many camping trips where it started to rain.  A few times, there was even thunderstorms and once a giant hail storm! While it might seem like rain would ruin a camping trip, it doesn’t have to.  With the right gear and preparation, you can still enjoy your trip.  But, if you aren’t prepared, rain can make your camping trip pretty miserable (or even dangerous).  So, before you set out,  read this to learn what to do when it starts raining while camping. **Jump to:** - [**Gear for Camping in the Rain**](#gear) - [**If you Have Kids**](#kids) - [**Choosing a Rain-Safe Campsite**](#campsite) - [**Setting Up a Tent for Rain**](#tent) - **[Cooking in the Rain while Camping](#cooking)** - [**Making a Campfire during/after Rain**](#fire) - **[Other Tips for Camping in the Rain](#tips)** - **[Keeping Gear Dry](#gear)** - **[Games You Can Play in the Tent](#games)** - [**Going Outside during Rain**](#outside) - [**Contingency Plan for Rain**](#contingency) \[sta\_anchor id=”gear” /\] ## Gear for Camping in the Rain Even if the forecast calls for sunshine, you should always pack as though it is going to rain.  The weather can change pretty quickly.  In the mountains, I’ve experienced bright sunny weather that turned into a thunderstorm in just 10 minutes! \*Because the weather can change so quickly, it’s important that you bring the right gear while on day hikes too.  See this [hiking gear checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-packing-list/). **Below is a list of the *absolute minimum* gear you will need for camping in the rain.** ### **1. Waterproof tent** A hydrostatic head of at least 2000 is recommended. You can also use a tarp + rope, but this requires a higher level of knowledge. More below on how to set up your tent for rain.  I’ll also talk below about what to do if your tent isn’t waterproof. ### 2. Waterproof jacket or **poncho** Be warned that “water resistant” and “waterproof” are NOT the same. Most hiking jackets are only water-resistant.  They might keep you dry in a light shower, but you will be drenched if a downpour occurs. Here’s what else you should [wear.](https://momgoescamping.com/clothes-camping-rain-cold-mud/) ![wearing rain jacket camping after thunderstorm](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/rain-jacket.jpg "rain jacket - Mom Goes Camping")*Sitting outside after a huge thunderstorm My rain jacket also acts as a windbreaker to keep me warm despite the heavy winds* ### **3. Waterproof cover for your backpack** Trash bags can work for this, but preferably you have a fitted cover. The backpack cover shown below comes in different sizes (10-90 liters) and colors.  It will keep gear in your pack dry.  You can [get it here](https://amzn.to/2YSfqcm). ![waterproof backpack cover](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/backpack-cover-waterproof-300x300.jpg "backpack cover waterproof - Mom Goes Camping") ### **4. Waterproof bags for sealing food** You can also use trash bags for this, or you can get a [wet bag like this](https://amzn.to/2YT7ZBE). ### **5. Waterproof headlamp** Most good headlamps are waterproof.  You will need this, especially for when you have to go to the bathroom at night while it is raining! 😀 Read [how to choose a headlamp](https://momgoescamping.com/choosing-headlamp/). ### **6. Footwear that you can wear in the rain** Be warned that even “waterproof” boots are probably still going to get wet. You’ll also want to bring extra socks. Preferably wool or a synthetic which dries fast. The reason for extra socks is that wet socks = blisters. You might also use [the two-sock system ](https://momgoescamping.com/wear-two-pairs-socks-prevent-blisters-hiking/)to prevent blisters. ### **Optional Rain Gear/Supplies**  #### **Waterproof pants:**  If you are camping in spring or rainy season, I would absolutely recommend getting waterproof pants. Having waterproof pants means you can go outside in the rain, sit wherever the hell you want, and not get drenched. Most waterproof pants look like parachute pants from the 80s.  My daughter complains about looking dorky.  I try to tell her that “being prepared is fashionable” and that there isn’t anyone around to see here anyway.  Her response? “What if the bears see me?” Here are my picks for [waterproof pants for women](https://momgoescamping.com/best-waterproof-womens-hiking-pants/) and [for kids](https://momgoescamping.com/best-rain-suits-toddlers/).  Not all of them are dorky looking. 😀 ![Arc’teryx Zeta LT waterproof pants womens](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/arcteryx-zeta-rain-pants-womens.jpg "arcteryx zeta rain pants womens - Mom Goes Camping") #### **Tarp** Bring a giant tarp with you.  Then you can set it up to make a rain shelter to hang out under while it rains. Tarps are also great for creating a shady spot on hot days. Below are some pictures of tarp setups for rain while camping. ![camping tarp setup](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/3881822636_d7143e06d0_z.jpg "camping tarp setup - Mom Goes Camping") ![another tarp setup for rain](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/5378837641_0822ecde2f_z.jpg "5378837641_0822ecde2f_z - Mom Goes Camping") #### **Rope** You should always bring rope while camping.  One reason is to you can make a clothesline to hang any items that need to be dried.  Ideally, you run the clothesline under the tarp shelter you set up. #### **Fire starters** Starting a campfire in the rain is a pain in the ass (here’s [how to do it](https://momgoescamping.com/make-fire-rain/)). Make life easier on yourself by bringing a few fire starters.  My favorite is a cotton ball dipped in vaseline.  It will burn for a long time! #### **Foam Cushion/Seat** After it rains, everything is wet.  Having a foam sleeping cushion is great.  You can put it anywhere and sit on it – like in front of the fire — so your butt doesn’t get muddy and wet. [This one](https://amzn.to/2KYS00X) (shown below) folds up so it is easy to pack. ![foam cushion for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/foldable-cushion.jpg "foldable cushion - Mom Goes Camping") --- **\*Not sure what to eat while camping?  [Check out my ebook](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/).  It has over 50 dehydrator recipes.  Just add water and you’ve got yourself a meal (even in the rain 😀 ).** ![dehydrator backpacking recipes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/book-with-tablet.png "book with tablet - Mom Goes Camping") --- \[sta\_anchor id=”kids” /\] ## Camping in the Rain with Kids Bear in mind that little kids have no clue how to be careful/stay dry when it rains.  They will stomp right through giant puddles.  They will sit in mud.  They will slip and fall at the worst possible spots. Even if you want to keep your kids inside the tent while camping (see ideas for games you can play in the tent later in the post), you’ve still got to consider that it will be muddy after the rain.  So, regardless of whether the kids are going out in the rain, they need complete rain gear. **This rain gear includes a jacket AND rain boots AND rain pants.** The boots and jacket might seem obvious.  However, I’m a huge fan of rain pants for kids.  I even make my 1 year old wear them on trips to the local park.  She can then crawl or sit wherever she wants, and I don’t have to worry about grass stains or muddy laundry. **Read:** [Best rain suits for babies and toddlers](https://momgoescamping.com/best-rain-suits-toddlers/) ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/baby-lidija-rain-pants-2.jpg "baby lidija rain pants 2 - Mom Goes Camping")This is my baby at 12 months I friggin love rain pants  They spare me a lot of muddy stained laundry \[sta\_anchor id=”campsite” /\] ## Choosing a Rain-Safe Campsite When setting up your campsite, keep in mind that it may rain. Look around you. Where will rain come down from the mountains above you? Will the river next to you likely surge? - **Watch out for widow-maker trees.** Lots of [people die each year](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-dangers/) when dead tree branches fall on their tents. - **Choose a campsite on elevated land** - **Make sure there aren’t any overhangs** which water could run off of and onto your tent. You could end up at the bottom of a mudslide! - **Camp on well-drained land.** Otherwise you are going to have to step through a mud pit to get in/out of your tent! - **Note the high-water mark in canyons or at dry stream beds**. If it rains, flash floods could come to here and wipe you away! [![tents in rain puddle](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/tent-in-puddle.jpg "tent in puddle - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/tent-in-puddle.jpg)*These tents ended up in a muddy puddle because of a bad campsite spot* \[sta\_anchor id=”tent” /\] ## Setting Up Your Tent for Rain Your tent absolutely must be waterproof! Yes, this sounds obvious but you’d be surprised how many people go camping with a cheap $20 tent which provides no protection from the elements. When it rains, those “summer tens” will flood the tent and turn it into a giant puddle.  Everything inside the tent will get drenched. I’ve seen this happen to other campers on multiple occasions. ### Stake Down All Sides of the Rain Fly I only use double-wall tents (see the picture above). The inner wall is the tent, and the outer wall is the rain fly. When setting up the outer layer, it is really important that you stake down ALL the sides, including the corners and guylines on the walls. If you don’t do this, the rain fly will droop from the pressure of the rain and the fly and inner tent wall will touch. This will cause condensation to form and your tent will get wet! Any gear touching the walls of the tent will also get wet from condensation!!! ### If Your Tent Isn’t Waterproof… ![tent with tarp over it in rain](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/3764431172_5827ae6fa9_z.jpg "3764431172_5827ae6fa9_z - Mom Goes Camping") If your tent isn’t rainproof, then you’ll need to set up a rain tarp. You can also set up a rain tarp over your cooking area. There are a bunch of different ways to do set up a rain tarp. The easiest rain tarp configuration is to make a ridgeline over your tent, drape the tarp over it, and then secure all four corners in place. See how it was done in the second image below. [![tarp tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/tarp-tent.jpg "tarp tent - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/tarp-tent.jpg) **Tip: Don’t forget about the ground underneath your tent!** Make sure the rain tarp extends well beyond the edges of your tent.  Otherwise, rain will fall near the edges of the tent and saturate the ground. This ground water will then leach into your tent, making it all wet on the bottom. If the bottom of your tent isn’t waterproof at all (or is very thin), then you’ll want to put a tarp *under* the tent too.  Make sure the edges of the tarp are protected by the rain cover. Otherwise, the bottom tarp will just funnel water into your tent. ![wet bottom of tent after rain](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/5981774390_65815f366c_z.jpg "5981774390_65815f366c_z - Mom Goes Camping")*Look how wet the bottom of the tent is* ### Example of Bad Tent Setup Want an example of what NOT to do when camping in the rain? The person in the picture below didn’t have a waterproof tent. Had they set up the rain tarp correctly, things would have been fine. **Their mistakes include:** 1. **Didn’t stake out the corners and sides of the tarp.** The tarp touched the sides of the tent, causing them to get wet through condensation. 2. **Didn’t factor in the bottom of the tent.** Since the tarp wasn’t staked out far from the tent, water just dripped to edges of the tent. Within minutes, the bottom of the tent was soaked. 3. **Left gear outside of the tent.** I bet those sneakers are going to take days to dry! [![bad camping setup for rain](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/bad-idea-camping-tent-rain.jpg "bad idea camping tent rain - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/bad-idea-camping-tent-rain.jpg) **Note:** It’s really not that hard to set up a tent for rain.  So don’t freak out or worry! I just wanted to show you all the things that can go wrong so you don’t end up in the same predicament. \[sta\_anchor id=”cooking” /\] ## Cooking during the Rain when Camping Campfire cooking might be difficult to do in the rain, but you can still use your camping stove in the rain ([read about camping stoves here](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-stoves-guide/)). Just put on your waterproof gear and cook on the camp stove as you normally would.  But… ### **NEVER COOK INSIDE YOUR TENT!** Aside from the obvious fire hazard, there is also a risk of [carbon monoxide poisoning](https://www.bbc.com/news/health-33976414) if you use gas or charcoal for fuel. I admit to being lazy at times and sitting with my butt inside the tent and my cook stove right outside of the tent.   This is fine because the stove is still outside.   Otherwise, we just munch on our trail mix and wait until the rain is over to make meals. ### **Tip: Bring Meals which Don’t Have to Be Cooked** I now dehydrate all of my own backpacking meals.  This means I can bring some really badass gourmet food on our camping trips, but it still only takes a few minutes to prepare. Most dehydrated meals don’t even need to be cooked.  You can just add water to them and wait (though it will rehydrate a lot faster if you use hot or boiling water). ![quinoa chili backpacking meal](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/quinoa-chili.jpg "quinoa chili - Mom Goes Camping")Heres an example of what Ill eat while camping It is quinoa chili Just add hot water and it rehydrates in 5 minutes **Want to learn more? Check out [my eBook](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/). It talks all about meal planning for backpacking trips plus has over 50 recipes.** [![dehydrator backpacking recipes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/book-with-tablet.png "book with tablet - Mom Goes Camping")](https://gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck/) **[Get the book here](https://gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck/)** \[sta\_anchor id=”fire” /\] ## Making a Fire After the Rain Making a fire when it is dry is fairly easy.  But, what about campfires after the rain when everything is wet? It takes some knowledge, but is still pretty easy.  I’ve got to admit that I feel proud when I get a roaring campfire going when camping in the rain. **Here are the basic steps.  Read the detailed [instructions on how to make a fire in the rain](https://momgoescamping.com/make-fire-rain/) here.** 1. Scrape away the wet ground so you have a dry base to make your fire on. Or you can lay down dense branches and make your fire on top of them. 2. Use the wood from the bottle of your pile. If you stacked it nicely, it should still be semi-dry. 3. Choose the [right fire lay for rain](https://momgoescamping.com/fire-lays/).  These include an upside down fire or an A-frame fire. 4. Use lots of tiny, dry tinder. 5. If you can’t find any dry tinder, use your knife to shave the wet bark off of sticks.  Keep shaving the stick to create lots of little dry pieces of wood. ![upside down fire in the rain](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/upside-down-fire.jpg "upside down fire - Mom Goes Camping")Heres the start of an upside down fire By making the fire on top of these logs the fire dried them out![lighting an upside down fire](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/upside-down-fire-lighting.jpg "upside down fire lighting - Mom Goes Camping")Heres the upside down fire being lit I used tons of tinder because everything was so wet![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/a-frame-fire-e1542372267633.jpg "a-frame-fire - Mom Goes Camping")In the photo above I used an A frame fire lay The A frame construction meant that the sticks on top protected the fire from the rain it was drizzling \[sta\_anchor id=”tips” /\] ## Other Tips for Camping in the Rain \[sta\_anchor id=”gear” /\] ### Keeping Gear Dry The moment you suspect that it is going to rain, you need to bring your gear to a safe, dry spot (you should be keeping your campsite tidy anyway).   Bring in EVERYTHING, even the stuff that is waterproof. If you can’t bring the gear inside your tent, then you better have a tarp to cover it or make a tarp rain shelter. I made the mistake of not bringing in the camp cookset once because I figured the aluminum plates were waterproof. After the rain stopped, I had to clean lots of dirt and pine needles off the cookset before using it. I learned my lesson and now keep all gear dry. \[sta\_anchor id=”games” /\] ### Games You Can Play in the Tent Since it usually doesn’t rain for very long while camping in the mountains, my daughter and I usually just retreat to the tent when it starts raining. We always find ways to have fun while in the tent. One time, we just watched the silhouettes of giant slugs crawling over the outside of the tent. It was actually really fun. Another time, I found a piece of wire someone had left at the campground and we shaped it into a bunny. Other times, we get out her notebook and markers (one of the only toys I let her bring camping) and draw, practice writing/reading, or tear up pieces of paper to play *Memory.* #### Here are some other ideas for games you can play inside the tent: - Bring a deck of cards and play any number of games - Shadow puppets using your flashlights - Charades - Tell stories \[sta\_anchor id=”outdoors” /\] ### You Can Still Go Outdoors When It is Raining Just because it is raining, it doesn’t mean that you can’t play outside. All you need is a rain jacket or poncho, and preferably some waterproof boots (you can walk outside in your camp sandals, but bear in mind that it gets slippery in the rain so boots are better) and rain pants. We had some nice showers on our last camping trip in the mountains. Isabel didn’t feel like staying in the tent though, so I let go out and pick wild blueberries and strawberries. While she was doing that, I tested myself to see if I could get a fire going in the rain. Yes, I succeeded! \[sta\_anchor id=”contingency” /\] ### Contingency Plan for Rain Even if the weather forecast calls for sunshine every single day, you should still plan for your camping trip as though it will rain. I sometimes make a contingency plan in case it pours for days without stop. For example, when backpacking in Rugova Klisura in Kosovo, I knew that there were cabins for rent by the trail head. The trail to the campsite is very steep.  I wasn’t about to hike up it with a 4-year old in the rain! The rain contingency plan was that we’d wait until dry weather to go up. Luckily, I’ve never had to use my contingency plan. ## Rain Is Beautiful! Okay, maybe the rain itself isn’t always beautiful. But I love the moments after the rain stops. If you are high up in the mountains, you can literally see the clouds clearing away. It looks like steam floating across the ground. Sometimes it feels like you can touch it. And, if you are in a plain, you might even get a rainbow afterwards 🙂  So enjoy the rain!  We wouldn’t have such beauty without it.                                            **Want gourmet meals on the trail?** My dehydrator recipes ebook has 50+ calorie-dense backpacking recipes — just add hot water. **[                                                                    Get it here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck)** ## Camping in the Rain FAQ: #### How do you keep a tent dry in the rain? Stake out every guyline and corner of the rain fly so it doesn’t sag and touch the inner tent wall — that contact point is where condensation forms and things get wet. Put a footprint or tarp under the tent, cut slightly smaller than the tent floor so pooling water doesn’t run underneath it. And keep all gear away from the tent walls inside. #### What do you do when it rains while camping with kids? Full rain gear jacket, pants, and boots before they go anywhere near the mud. If they’re staying inside, set them up with cards, markers, or a notebook. If they’re going out, let them. Kids in rain gear having a miserable time is a myth; kids in rain gear stomping through puddles are almost always having the time of their lives. #### Can you cook in the rain while camping? Yes, with your camp stove — just put on rain gear and cook as normal. Never cook inside a tent: carbon monoxide from a gas stove in an enclosed space is lethal. If you have a tarp set up over your cooking area, use it. If not, lean the stove towards the tent vestibule so you stay dry but the flame stays outside. #### How do you start a campfire in the rain? Clear the wet top layer of ground first to get a dry base. Use the driest wood from the bottom of your pile. Shave wet bark off sticks with a knife to get to the dry wood underneath. Build an upside-down fire or A-frame lay, which protect the tinder from rain better than a standard tepee lay. Bring vaseline-soaked cotton balls as fire starters — they burn long enough to catch even damp wood. #### What should you do if your tent isn’t waterproof? Set up a ridgeline tarp over the tent before the rain starts not during. Drape the tarp over the ridgeline and stake all four corners well beyond the tent edges so water drips away from the base. Also put a tarp under the tent if the floor is thin. And accept that next time you need a waterproof tent — a $20 summer tent in the rain is an expensive lesson. --- Image credits: [Sean Munson](https://www.flickr.com/photos/logicalrealist/) [Tents and Puddle](https://www.flickr.com/photos/logicalrealist/221784797/) [CC BY NC ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/), found on Flickr [Joseph](https://www.flickr.com/photos/umnak/) [Tarp camp, Southeast Alaska](https://www.flickr.com/photos/umnak/127101684/) [CC BY SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)[Thejaswi I](https://www.flickr.com/photos/theju/) [Our tent](https://www.flickr.com/photos/theju/256169286/) [CC BY SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)[Grant Eaton](https://www.flickr.com/photos/granteaton/) [Denali Double Rainbow Panorama](https://www.flickr.com/photos/granteaton/6529844039) [CC BY NC ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)[Daniel Ladenhauf](https://www.flickr.com/photos/ladi/) [Dry Campground](https://www.flickr.com/photos/ladi/8137270056/in/photolist-9Jf1iH-acquJj-nReJNL-AfWCmx-2ysSS6-CqJyt-8UeP1A-3AppHo-dp4CTA-f7VEF3-51jfHp-apCAMT-6U1uGk-6FWbEH-5djYfm-6rmY9p-bnM6b9-nFfQ6-RDhC-xXbCcg-7gQdvL-ozhMaa-6ymvUz-2UAgwv-oSUHVH-vSZvhQ-noH35-5RTeqE-f2Ry8c) [CC BY NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/) “[Rainy Campsite](https://www.flickr.com/photos/suckamc/3881822636/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [Martin Cathrae](https://www.flickr.com/people/suckamc/) “[nice view from the tent](https://www.flickr.com/photos/giffordclan/5378837641/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [behang](https://www.flickr.com/people/giffordclan/) “[Campsite](https://www.flickr.com/photos/colinmcmillen/1175951499/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Colin McMillen](https://www.flickr.com/people/colinmcmillen/) “[extra rain protection](https://www.flickr.com/photos/chanzi/3764431172/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [chanzi](https://www.flickr.com/people/chanzi/) “[Inside of tent on Loon Lake](https://www.flickr.com/photos/timdan2/5981774390/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [TimDan2](https://www.flickr.com/people/timdan2/) ## What do you do when it rains when camping? Let us know! ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety, Camping with Kids **Tags:** rain, spring --- ### [How Much Does It Cost to Go Camping? Complete Breakdown](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-cost/) **Published:** January 19, 2017 **Author:** Diane **Content:** One of the reasons camping is popular is because it’s looked at as a cheap form of leisure or vacation. But, depending on your style of camping and when and where you go, the cost of camping can actually be quite high. Here is how the cost of camping breaks down based on latest statistics and a full breakdown of camping costs. ## How Much Does It Cost to Go Camping? On average, campers spend $50 per person, per day on camping trips. This includes campsite fees, activities, sightseeing, and transportation costs. Glamping can cost significantly more, and is often more expensive than a resort. By contrast, camping trips on public land can be completely free aside from transportation and food costs. [1](https://moderncampground.com/usa/industry-report-reveals-impact-of-distance-costs-on-camping-decisions/), [2](https://www.rvia.org/news-insights/campspot-publishes-top-outdoor-travel-trends-2023) Note: These costs don’t include camping gear. Gear costs can vary from $170 for the bare essentials bought secondhand to several thousand for new gear and comfort items like camp furniture.  Glamping setups can easily cost over $4,000.  Gear costs are an investment in camping though; you don’t need to buy it for the next trip. ### Camping Costs Breakdown - **Campground costs:** $0 to $50+ (per day, per group) - **Transportation:** $52 to $348 (per trip) - **Entrance fees, parking, permits:** $0 to $35+ (per trip) - **Food:** $11 to $60+ (per day, per person) - **Activities:** $0 to $100 (per day, per person) - **Firewood:** $0 to $15 (per day, per group) - **Gear:** $170 to $4,006 (per person; add $55 to $866 for each additional person) **Keep reading for a full breakdown of these costs.** ## Campground Costs: $0 to $50+ (Per Day, Per Group) The cost of campgrounds varies drastically depending on the amenities offered.  Barebone campgrounds with few amenities are cheaper whereas glamping campgrounds often cost more than resorts. Campgrounds near popular scenic destinations like the Grand Canyon can be very expensive. Rates are usually cheaper in the low season.  In the peak season, cheaper campgrounds get booked quickly leaving you with fewer budget options. If you are an experienced camper, you can skip the campground costs completely.  There are plenty of places to go free camping.  Or, you might try backpacking instead.  In many National Parks, backpacking is free or only requires a small permit fee. [3](https://www.cruiseamerica.com/rv-adventures/rv-lifestyle/average-rv-park-cost), [4](https://fairtradefinder.com/average-cost-of-tent-camping/), [5](https://www.nps.gov/grsm/learn/news/park-invites-public-to-comment-on-fee-program-changes-for-2023.htm) **Campground Costs (Per Night, Per Person)** - **Basic Campsite:** Barebone campsites with few amenities cost around $15 to $25 per night. - **Campsite with Amenities:** Expect to pay $20 to $40 per night for amenities like electrical hookups, WiFi signal and dishwashing stations. - **RV Camp:** $25 to $60 per night - **Glamping:** $50+ per night. Cost may be per person. \*Note that some campgrounds charge per tent whereas others charge per person.  Some campgrounds even charge per person and have a separate tent fee. **Read Next: [How to Choose a Campground](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-choose-campground/)** ## Entrance Fees, Parking and Permits: $0 to $35+ If you want to go camping in a National or State Park, you will likely need to pay entrance fee.  The fee can be as low as $3 per person in less-popular parks, though you will likely also need to pay for parking as well. In popular destinations like Yellowstone, Grand Teton and Zion, the entrance fee is $35. However, this fee is *per vehicle* and not per person.  The more people there are in your group, the more affordable it becomes. Some activities may require you to get a permit. For example, bear viewing in Alaska’s Tongass National Forest will cost you $50 in peak season. A Grand Canyon Backcountry permit will cost $15 per night plus a $10 charge. A climbing permit is just $6 for the entire group in Acadia Otter Cliffs. The good news? A lot of camping spots don’t require any entrance fees – especially if you are wild camping on public land. [6](https://www.recreation.gov/permits/4251902), [7](https://www.nps.gov/planyourvisit/passes.htm), [8](https://www.recreation.gov/permits/4675337) ## Transportation Costs: $52 to $348 In 2023, nearly 1/3 of campers saved money on their trip by camping close to home. On average, campers only traveled 179 miles from home to their campsite.  It’s rare for campers to buy airline tickets with only 7% of campers flying for a camping trip in the previous 3 years. However, road trips are popular with campers.  An average camping road trip covers approximately 1,200 miles. According to [CNET](https://www.cnet.com/personal-finance/planes-trains-cars-and-buses-we-do-the-math-to-discover-the-cheapest-way-to-travel-per-mile/), when you factor in gas and maintenance, it costs 29 cents per gallon to travel by automobile.  This comes out to approximately $52 to $348 in transportation costs for a typical camping trip. ## Food: $11 to $60+ (per day, per person) If you bring all of your own food camping, the costs can be as little as $11 per person, per day –the same cost as eating at home.[9](https://www.valuepenguin.com/how-much-we-spend-food), [10](https://money.usnews.com/money/personal-finance/saving-and-budgeting/articles/how-much-should-i-spend-on-groceries) If you want the convenience of prepared meals though, your camping food costs will be much higher. Eating freeze-dried foods for most of your meals will cost approximately $33.00 per day. Add in a few restaurant meals or snacks from the campground commissary and you can easily spend more than $60 per day on food.[![gourmet as heck book](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Gourmet-As-Heck-sidebar.jpg "Gourmet As Heck sidebar - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Gourmet-As-Heck-sidebar.jpg) **\*Not sure what to eat while outdoors? I’ve written an eBook with over 50 dehydrator recipes for camping, plus tons of advice on meal planning.** **Learn more [here](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/).  Or [buy it now](https://gum.co/gourmetasheck?wanted=true).** ## Activities: $0 to $100 per day On any vacation, activity costs can add up quickly.  For example, horseback riding typically costs $75 to $100 per person.  Doing one of these activities per day will increase your budget greatly! Renting boats, bikes or quad bikes also tends to be pricy.  However, there are also lots of free camping activities like stargazing, hiking and campfire cooking. ## Firewood: $0 to $15 per day A lot of campgrounds and parks forbid you from gathering your own firewood.  You shouldn’t bring firewood from home either because it could cause non-native species of insects, fungi or bacteria to enter the ecosystem. That leaves you with paying for firewood.  It typically costs $5 for a bundle of firewood and a large, social campfire will require three bundles. ## Camping Gear Cost: $170 to $4,006 (add $55 to $866 for each extra person) Camping gear can be notoriously expensive.  For example, a rooftop tent can easily cost over $2,000. However, most cheap gear is fine for camping in good weather conditions.  My old $50 tent even survived a hail storm on at 6,000 feet! If you stick to just the essentials and buy gear in secondhand stores or outlets, you’ll find that camping gear can be very affordable. It’s hard to find everything you need secondhand though, so budget for some full-priced items.   If you want high-tech or luxury gear, the costs can quickly spiral out of control. **Gear Costs:** - **Just the essentials:** $170 for cheap secondhand gear. Up to $1,540 for higher-end new gear. - **Essentials plus some comfort items:** $260 to $2,910 - **Glamping setup:** $455 to $4,006 A lot of camping gear can be shared between members (such as the tent or the stove), so you only need to buy one of these items.  There is some gear that each person on the trip will need to have their own of (such as headlamps or backpacks).  For this, add $55 (low end) to $866 (high end) per each additional person. Even if you do buy opt for expensive gear or “luxury” items, remember this: **Camping gear is a ONE-TIME INVESTMENT.** Once you’ve bought the gear, you won’t have this cost for your second camping trip. The more you go camping, the better your investment pays off. **Tip:** Check out [REI’s “Garage”](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Frei-garage%2Fc%2Fcamping-and-hiking) for massive discounts on last season’s camping gear. ### Essentials #### Tent: $50 to $600 It’s fairly easy to find cheap camping tents.  You can often even find them at garage sales or flea markets.  Just be careful about buying a very cheap tent or a used one that has undergone a lot of abuse. The weather can change quickly when camping and you don’t want to end up suffering in a tent that doesn’t handle rain or wind well! If you want a larger tent with lots of headroom and a screened area for hanging out, expect to pay a lot more.  Budget options are available but they usually don’t handle the elements well. [![This 4-person Coleman tent is great if you want quality on a budget. You can buy it here for ](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Coleman-Sundome-4P-Tent.jpg "Coleman Sundome 4P Tent - Mom Goes Camping")](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004J2GUOU/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B004J2GUOU&linkId=a18c4f2037dede10ef6154f9efe779e0)This 4 person Coleman tent is great if you want quality on a budget  Check out [tents on REI here](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fc%2Ftents) --- #### Sleeping Bag: $20 to $100 This is another item which is easy to find for very cheap.  Just pay attention to the “comfort rating” on the sleeping bag.  It can get cold at night when camping (even in summer!) so you need a sleeping bag suited for the climate. ![This sleeping bag by Teton weighs in at under 3lbs, is rated to 20F, and costs less than . Available in youth sizes too! Get it here.](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/teton-sleeping-bag.jpg "teton sleeping bag - Mom Goes Camping")This sleeping bag by Teton weighs in at under 3lbs is rated to 20F and is affordable [Get it here](https://amzn.to/2IZOzrs) --- #### Sleeping Pad, Mattress or Cot: $10 to $150 If you use a cheap foam sleeping bag, you probably won’t spend more than $10.  Air mattresses are more expensive and prone to popping, so you’ll need to invest in some repair tape too.  Cots also tend to be pricier and it’s tricky to find them on secondhand sites. --- #### Kitchen: $30 to $200 At the bare minimum, your camp kitchen will consist of a stove, fuel and cook set.  Camp stoves range from ultra-cheap canister stoves to more advanced propane stoves with multiple burners.  Expect to pay $30 to $150. The cook set doesn’t have to cost anything if you just bring your normal cookware from home.  Even if you choose to buy a set, it probably won’t cost more than $50. [![This Coleman stove runs on propane. It costs about and you can buy it here.](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/coleman-stove-1.jpg "coleman stove - Mom Goes Camping")](http://amzn.to/2jwQB4w)This Coleman stove runs on propane It is an affordable option and you can [buy it here](https://amzn.to/46LjDkH) --- #### Backpack with Rain Cover: $10 to $200 You’ll need a backpack for carrying things around camp or for going on day trips.  Ideally, it needs to have a rain cover so you can keep items inside dry. A cheap backpack with a trash bag liner will work and cost almost nothing.  On the high-end, you can buy hiking daypacks with lots of features like attachment hooks, water bladders and lots of pockets. --- #### First Aid Kit: $20 to $75 Building your own first aid kit can be as cheap as $20.  To buy a pre-made camping first aid kit, you’ll spend around $75. Here’s a [complete camping first aid checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-first-aid-checklist/). --- #### Light and Power: $25 to $200 At a minimum, each person in your group will need a flashlight or headlamp when camping.  A lot of people also bring lanterns or other camp lights. They are useful if camping in a group so you can illuminate a larger area.  The good news is that you only need one lantern per group, not per person. If the campground doesn’t have an electric hookup, you will need lots of extra batteries and/or a power bank.  Solar power stations are popular for long-term camping, but these are very pricy and probably not necessary for beginner campers. --- #### Rope: $5 to $15 You need this for a laundry line, fixing broken shoelaces, hanging a bear bag, and a zillion other things. Paracord is a good, all-purpose rope to buy. --- ### Probably Essential Gear #### Water Containers: $0 to $70 Unless you want to haul water back and forth from the campground spigot all day long, you’ll need some larger jugs for holding water.  This can cost absolutely nothing if you bring recycled bottles from home.  You’ll have a better camping experience if you get a water container with a spigot though.  These cost around $25 to $35 each and you may need two (or more) of them for your group. --- #### Dishwashing Basins: $0 to $60 For washing dishes, you’ll need three basins. You can use whatever you have at home.  Or, to make camping life easier, buy some collapsible portable sinks with drains.  These range from $10 to $20 each. --- #### Table and Chair: $30 to $290 If you don’t want to sit on the ground and would like a dedicated area for cooking and eating, you’ll at least want to bring chairs and a table or two.  These items will only add about $30 to your budget if you choose basic items. As you start getting into more luxury camping furniture, the costs can skyrocket.  For example, there are camp rocking chairs which cost $140+.  Some folding tables even cost $150+. --- #### Shelter: $15 to $300 per group In addition to your sleeping tent, you may want another shelter.  For example, you can [set up a cheap $15 tarp](https://momgoescamping.com/tarp-shelters/) to make a shady area or protect against the rain.  Some people like to buy mesh tents – aka screen houses — so they have a place to hang out away from mosquitoes.  These can be found for $50 to $100 but some cost upwards of $300. --- #### Cooler: $20 to $500 If you want to bring any perishable foods or have cold drinks, then you will need a cooler as well.  These range from ultra-cheap soft-side coolers that cost as little as $20 to hard-side coolers with advanced insulation that can easily set you back $300.  If you opt for a 12v camp refrigerator, expect to pay at least $500. --- #### Water Treatment System: $25 to $150 per group You might not need this if your campground has safe drinking water, but a water treatment system is great to have if you go on hikes or are wild camping.  I use the [Sawyer Mini](https://momgoescamping.com/sawyer-mini-link) and it is one of the cheapest filters of its kind.  There are other options too, like UV filters, water purification tablets, and larger filters.  **Read this guide to [choosing a camping water filter](https://momgoescamping.com/best-backpacking-water-filters-purifiers/).** --- ### Optional Gear #### Shower Setup: $30 to $270 If you want to avoid the campground bathroom, you can set up a shower station.  A pop-up privacy station will cost anywhere from $20 to $140.  You can find cheap solar showers for as little as $10 and more advanced ones with pumps cost upwards of $140. --- #### Bear Canister: $40 to $76 per group A lot of campgrounds in bear territory require you to keep food in a bear canister or use their food lockers. These canisters will likely cost you at least $76. If you get lucky, you can find a used one for sale for around $40. --- #### Portable Cook Station: $70 to $250 For long-term camping or when camping in a large group, it’s really useful to have a dedicated cooking station.  The cheapest ones are around $70 and more advanced ones with cabinets and hooks can cost $250. --- #### Hammock: $20 to $300 A basic hammock doesn’t have to be expensive and they are fairly easy to find on secondhand stores. If you want a hammock with a stand so it doesn’t have to be strapped to trees, expect to pay upwards of $300. --- #### Fire pits: $35 to $200 A lot of campgrounds require you to use a fire pit for campfires.  If you only need a small campfire, then a cheap fire pit costing around $35 will suffice. Deluxe fire pits that can also be used as grills will cost $200+. --- **How much do you spend on camping? Let us know in the comments section below!** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids --- ### [9 Strange Insects found in America which Will Put You in Awe of Evolution](https://momgoescamping.com/insects-evolution/) **Published:** March 1, 2017 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I realize that most people hate insects.  Or they are downright terrified of them.  So, when my daughter and I stop to pick up and analyze an insect we see while on a hike, people generally get confused. Yes, we actually touch and play with insects! Why? Because I truly believe that insects are the most fascinating branch of zoology.  Even more fascinating than all those “cuddly” mammals that most people like. There are approximately [900,000 species of *described* insects on the planet](https://www.si.edu/spotlight/buginfo/bugnos).  The real number might be as high as 30 million species though. By comparison, there are only about 5,416 species of mammals! The amount of diversity in the insect world is truly fascinating.  If you have a basic understanding of genetics and evolution, you can start to understand just how impressive this is. ## Why Insects Evolve So Quickly Insects evolve much faster than more complex organisms like mammals because of their quick reproductive cycles.  As [The Naked Scientists describes](https://www.thenakedscientists.com/articles/questions/do-smaller-organisms-evolve-faster), “Small animals on the whole reproduce faster than larger animals. They grow up, reach maturity, have their babies and die over a much shorter period of time. So, the number of generations of a small animal is going to be much, much greater. This means that there will be more mutations and more exposure to selection in each generation, so that the potential for evolutionary change is just that much greater.” Fast reproduction is just one thing which makes insects evolve faster. As Programmed Aging talks about [here](http://www.programmed-aging.org/theories/genetics_evolution.html), there’s a difference between mutations and selectable property.  In complex organisms like humans, individuals can have lots of mutations at one time.  But, because of our complexity, these mutations don’t always get selected. Thus, simpler organisms are going to have a higher [evolvability](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolvability). It is almost crazy how fast insects can evolve.  Where Darwin believed that it took thousands of generations for evolution to occur, scientists have found that [butterflies can evolve new colors of wings in just 6 generations](https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/08/140805151025.htm). And, because natural selection often occurs in response to environmental factors, we are seeing insects evolving at rapid paces because they are [adapting to pesticide use](https://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/50640/title/Insects-Are-Increasingly-Evolving-Resistance-to-Genetically-Modified-Crops/). ## Insects which Evolved in Amazing Ways Here are just some examples of strange, amazing insects you’ll find in North America.  The next time you are on a hike in nature, be on the lookout for them and be aware of just how incredible this diversity is! ### Thorn Bug ![thorn bug](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/1-thorn-bug-2.jpg "1 thorn bug 2 - Mom Goes Camping") This beauty has evolved to resemble a thorn on plants, which it feeds on.  In addition to helping camouflage the insect, the thorn also acts as protective armor if it gets attacked. ### Pandorus Sphinx Moth ![pandorus sphinix moth caterpillar](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/2-pandorus-sphinx-moth-caterpillar.jpg "2 pandorus sphinx moth caterpillar - Mom Goes Camping") What a weird looking caterpillar, right? Well, those big “eyes” on its side are going to scare away a lot of predators.  Once it turns into a moth, it uses another evolutionary survival mechanism: camouflage. ![pandorus sphinix moth](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/2-pandorus-moth.jpg "2 pandorus moth - Mom Goes Camping") ### Stag Beetle ![3 stag beetle](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/3-stag-beetle.jpg "3 stag beetle - Mom Goes Camping") The stag beetle is one of my favorite insects.  Their bodies have insanely tough armor.  And those horns protruding from males’ heads? They are just for show.  The beetles are harmless, though they do sometimes use their horns for fighting with other males. ### Hag Moth Caterpillar ![hag moth caterpillar](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/4-hag-moth-caterpillar.jpg "4 hag moth caterpillar - Mom Goes Camping") Not only is this one of the weirdest looking caterpillars you’ll ever see, it is one of the most “smartly” designed by evolution. The caterpillar evades detection by looking like a spider molt, or leafy debris.  Other cool traits about the hag moth are that it has suction cups on its prolegs and it arms can fall off without harming the caterpillar. ### Tersa Sphinx Moth Caterpillar ![tersa sphinx moth](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/5-tersa-moth-2.jpg "5 tersa moth 2 - Mom Goes Camping") How would you like to have these “eyes” confront you in a field of grass? Of course, the real eyes are much smaller and these evolutionary adaptations are for scaring away predators. ### Saddleback Moth ![saddleback moth caterpillar](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/6-saddleback-moth-1-1024x640.jpg "6 saddleback moth 1 - Mom Goes Camping") The bright colors of this caterpillar aren’t helping it hide.  Instead, it has another way of protecting itself.  All of those horns on its ends can inflict a sharp sting. The rest of the bristles secrete venom.  If you see this guy, you do NOT want to pick it up! ### Evergreen Bagworm Moth ![evergreen bagworm moth caterpillar](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/7-evergreen-bagworm-moth.jpg "7 evergreen bagworm moth - Mom Goes Camping") If you saw this hanging from an evergreen tree, you’d probably think it was just some dead needles, right?  Take a closer look and you might find this guy inside.  The evergreen bagworm is a moth which spins its cocoon with bits of plant matter from the trees it feeds on.  The result is a near-perfect camouflage. ![evergreen bagworm moth caterpillar](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/7-evergreen-bagworm-moth-2.jpg "7 evergreen bagworm moth 2 - Mom Goes Camping") ###  Eastern Eyed Click Beetle ![eastern eyed click beetle](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/8-eastern-eyed-click-beetle.jpg "8 eastern eyed click beetle - Mom Goes Camping") Here’s another example of an insect eyespot mimicry to protect itself.  As if this wasn’t cool enough, they also let out a click noise which scares away predators. The clicking – which is produced by snapping the first section of its thorax in the second section of the thorax — also helps the beetle flip over after playing dead to deter predators. ### Hickory Horned Devil ![hickory horned devil caterpillar](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/9-hickory-horned-devil.jpg "9 hickory horned devil - Mom Goes Camping") These caterpillars can be as big as a hot dog! They’d make a great meal for a bird – except that many animals are afraid of them because of their intimidating appearance and big horns. It turns out that the appearance is just a ruse.  The caterpillars are completely harmless and grow up to become regal moths – the largest moths north of Mexico. \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ Image credits: “Insecto Espina / Thorn Bug / Umbonia cra” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by Carlos De Soto Molinari “[P5028148](https://www.flickr.com/photos/hdport/4576615552/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Hunter-Desportes](https://www.flickr.com/people/hdport/)“[img\_5552](https://www.flickr.com/photos/steevithak/24113298172/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [steevithak](https://www.flickr.com/people/steevithak/)“[Pandorus Sphinx Moth](https://www.flickr.com/photos/joxxsx/978876320/)” ([CC BY-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/2.0/)) by [August Norman](https://www.flickr.com/people/joxxsx/)“[Pandorus Sphinx Moth caterpillar (Eumorp](https://www.flickr.com/photos/59003943@N00/6137423755/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [aarongunnar](https://www.flickr.com/people/59003943@N00/)“[Evergreen Bagworm – Thyridopteryx epheme](https://www.flickr.com/photos/52450054@N04/9434622421/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [judygva (back in town and trying to catch up)](https://www.flickr.com/people/52450054@N04/)“Hag Moth Caterpillar – Phobetron pitheci (https://www.flickr.com/photos/25980517@N03/4200717386/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Lynette MT](https://www.flickr.com/people/25980517@N03/)“[Xylophanes tersa (Tersa Sphinx)](https://www.flickr.com/photos/71701055@N00/6482447525/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Andrew Hoffman](https://www.flickr.com/people/71701055@N00/)“[the quiet one](https://www.flickr.com/photos/lecates/4003478276/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [lecates](https://www.flickr.com/people/lecates/)“[Saddleback Caterpillar – Oruga Ensillad](https://www.flickr.com/photos/andresrodriguezandrades/29270986421/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Andres Rodriguez FOTOGRAFÍA](https://www.flickr.com/people/andresrodriguezandrades/)“[Hickory Horned Devil](https://www.flickr.com/photos/bionicteaching/3894344573/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [bionicteaching](https://www.flickr.com/people/bionicteaching/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** insects --- ### [The Best Camping Spots in the Balkans](https://momgoescamping.com/best-camping-spots-balkans/) **Published:** May 10, 2017 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I’ve lived in Serbia for the past 10 years.  In that time, I’ve seen tourism take off from zero to a booming industry.  Youth from the EU come here for the cheap beer and rakija, crazy parties on our floating rafts, and to master the art of drinking one coffee for three hours. - [Wild Camping Laws of Every European Country](https://momgoescamping.com/wild-camping-laws-europe/) - [Tips for Camping in Eastern Europe](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-eastern-europe/) - [Camping and Backpacking in Rugova Gorge, Kosovo](https://momgoescamping.com/rugova-gorge/) - [Camping at Gjipe Beach in Southern Albania](https://momgoescamping.com/gjipe-beach-albania/) But what a lot of people don’t realize is that the Balkans is rich in unspoiled nature. ## There Is No Camping Culture in the Balkans While there are some official campgrounds, the camping infrastructure practically doesn’t exist.  If you want to go camping here, expect these problems: - **No maps:** Good luck finding the detailed contour maps that you need if you want to go hiking! This site is useful though – <http://www.stazeibogaze.info/> - **No bathrooms:** Be sure to bring a shovel for digging a cathole. You won’t find bathrooms at the start of trailheads. - **No water:** You’ll need to bring a water treatment system (I use the [Sawyer Mini](https://momgoescamping.com/sawyer-mini-water-filter-review/)) because almost none of the wild camping spots have a safe source of water. - **Few marked trails:** You’ll find plenty of trails. Just don’t expect them to be marked nicely like in Western Europe or the US. - **Lots of trash:** When going to popular places, expect TONS of trash. And don’t expect any trashcans to throw your own trash away in. With these things in mind, wild camping in the Balkans is still great.  First of all, the fact that there is no camping culture here means that you can find some remote, isolated areas. **Wild camping is also legal** in most places in the Balkans.  I just pitch my tent wherever I find a nice place.  No one is going to complain (but they might wonder what the heck you are doing there and invite you to stay in their home instead!). I haven’t camped all over the Balkans yet.  So, this list is going to mostly include the places I have been.  And, yes, I will be updating it as I discover more great camping spots. ## Albania Camping Spots ### Lake Shkodra Campground ![Campground lake shkodra albania](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/P1110663-1-1024x576.jpg "P1110663 (1) - Mom Goes Camping") - **Type**: Campground - **Pros**: Right on the lake; has a café and full facilities; great for kids - **Cons**: Need a car (or be prepared to walk 900 meters to the main road each time you want to leave); not much to do other than swim at the lake - **Website**: <http://www.lakeshkodraresort.com/> ### Rilindja at Valbone Mountain ![rilinjda at Valbone mountain in Albania](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/P1120004-1-1024x576.jpg "P1120004 (1) - Mom Goes Camping") The couple Catherine and Alfred opened a cabin and campsite on Valbone mountain. You could also wild camp anywhere on Valbone, but the campsite behind their cabin is really beautiful.  Plus, they let you use the bathrooms and showers in the cabin.   The couple has also done a great job of marking trails and have maps for sale. - **Type:** Wild camping, campsite camping, or mountain cabin - **Pros:** AMAZING nature; marked trails and maps available; water source - **Cons:** Hard to get to but an incredible journey which is definitely worth it – see information on Catherine’s website - **Website:** http://www.journeytovalbona.com/                                       **Taking the kids camping for the first time?** My “Your Family’s First Camping Trip” bundle has the complete guide, printable packing checklist, and three done-for-you itineraries — everything from booking the site to the drive home. **[                                                              Get the bundle →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/1stcampingtrip)** ### Mario Molla’s House on Koman Lake ![camping at Lake Koman](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/P1110850-1-1024x576.jpg "P1110850 (1) - Mom Goes Camping") Mario Molla is the guy who operates the Koman Lake ferry. You can take the ferry to the base of Valbone Mountain, or do a round-trip. I was lucky that Mario invited me to stay at his family’s home. What I didn’t realize was that you have to take a boat to their home, and there is literally no road which goes there!!!  The family was incredible and gave us really yummy food.  Even if you don’t want to spend the night at the home, you should still book a tour with them.  They’ll take you to their home for lunch during the tour. - **Type:** Homestay or camping - **Pros:** Unique experience - **Cons:** Could be pricey - **Website:** http://www.komanilake.com/ ### Gjipe Beach ![camping at Gjipe beach albania](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/IMG_5513-1-1024x683.jpg "IMG_5513 (1) - Mom Goes Camping") This is an amazing beach in the South of Albania.  It is at the end of a canyon.  You can hike to the beach through the canyon, but it is really difficult and not advised without a local guide. During summer, there is usually a paid campground operating.  I was there in September and the campground was closed. - **Type:** Campground or wild camping - **Pros:** There are a couple cafes on the beach in case you need to buy water; bathrooms; crystal-clear water - **Cons:** Be careful about camping right in front of the canyon – if it rains, the water could sweep your tent away! - **Location: <https://goo.gl/maps/6hGq1Ykg48M2>** ### Dhermi Dhermi is a small village in Southern Albania.  We actually stayed in a cabin while there because it was cheaper than the campgrounds.  However, there are plenty of campgrounds and you might enjoy the hostel-like atmosphere in them. - **Type:** Campground - **Pros:** Amazing beach! - **Cons:** Long bus ride to get there; stores are very overpriced; water is NOT potable – expect to pay for water or use your water treatment system - **Location: <https://goo.gl/maps/xas2VXYgEBs>** ## Kosovo Camping Spots ### Leqinat Lake at Rugova Gorge near Peja ![camping at leqinat lake in rugova gorge near peja in kosovo](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/IMG_1851-1-682x1024.jpg "IMG_1851 (1) - Mom Goes Camping") This is my all-time favorite camping place.  It is a tough hike to get there, but well worth it. There are also plenty of other places to camp in Rugova Klisura, but I haven’t tried them yet. - **Type:** Wild camping - **Pros:** Beautiful nature and lake; good maps available; friendly locals will drive you to the trail base; there is a drinking water source but it is near the bottom of the trail - **Cons:** There are leaches in the lake, so swim fast; hike is only 2.5km up but it is very STEEP; - **Location:** <https://goo.gl/maps/sH6Nf69mBqR2> - **Website:** http://www.pejatourism.org/en/rugova-kultura.html ## Serbia Camping Spots ### Divcibare ![divcibare in serbia](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/12-1-1024x683.jpg "12 (1) - Mom Goes Camping") This is a popular ski and vacation spot for Serbians.  If you come on a holiday, expect there to be crowds!  You can find tons of cute cabins to rent out for very cheap (about 10 to 30 euros per night) or stay in the Mountain Home of the Orienteering Club for 300 dinars per night, or wild camping almost anywhere. - **Type:** Cabins, “mountain home”, or wild camping - **Pros:** Great for kids; lots of easy trails; yummy local food for sale; maps available; lots of other activities like horseback riding - **Cons:** Lots of trash everywhere; no bathrooms on the trails; may be crowded - **Website for Mountain Home of Orienteering Club: <http://www.pdptt.rs/dom-na-divcibarama/>** - **Tourism Website: <http://www.divcibare.rs/>** ### Radoinsko Lake ![radoinsko lake camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/10-1-1024x683.jpg "10 1 - Mom Goes Camping") When you get to the lake, you’ll pass an impressive dam.  Park your car and start walking around the lake (towards the West/Right).  You’ll find some campsites right on the lake away from the weekend homes. - **Type:** Wild camping - **Pros:** Beautiful nature; nice locals; birdwatching; easy to get to with car - **Cons:** Lots of locals with weekend homes there; lots of trash; no good hiking trails nearby; no water source; no bathrooms - **Location:** <https://goo.gl/maps/47ZM7g8u8952> ### Uvacko Lake ![camping at Uvacko lake in Serbia](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/25-1-1024x682.jpg "25 (1) - Mom Goes Camping") There are probably lots of places to camp on this lake, but I’ve only been to one.  My friend’s husband happens to run a camp on the lake.  He has a boat and took us on a trip to see the endangered vultures and a cool cave.  It is a truly amazing place! - **Type:** Campground - **Pros:** Potable water; nice guides; outdoor bathroom; great hiking trails; can take a boat ride to see the vultures and a cave - **Cons:** No wild camping allowed; there are strong currents in the river – DON’T SWIM! - **Location:** <https://goo.gl/maps/AgCGLV7mJCJ2> ### Crna Reka (Black River) near Valjevo ![camping in crna river near valjevo in serbia](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/img_2242-1-1024x682.jpg "img_2242 (1) - Mom Goes Camping") This spot is my favorite for weekend camping trips.  It is easy to get to, the trails are easy for kids, and there is a swimming hole!  Ignore the “Private Property” sign.  Apparently some local put it up even though it isn’t his property. - **Type:** Wild camping - **Pros:** Easy to get to with car; not much walking required; great swimming hole; great for kids; has a drinkable water source near the swimming hole - **Cons:** Might be too easy for hardcore adventurers; no bathrooms - **Location:** <https://goo.gl/maps/57vLZRmrMTp> - **Directions:** Drive to the Ethno house “Mila Obradovic” and park your car. You’ll see a little path a sign (in Cyrillic) saying “Crna Reka” and a small wooden bridge.  Cross the bridge, follow the path to the right, and walk about 200 more meters to a big field where you can camp. ### Gradac River near Valjevo This is a tiny river that goes to the city of Valjevo.  The part of the river right near the city is always crowded on weekends with locals swimming.  There is a horseback riding club there (ride horses for cheap!), and a cool cave that you can go into.  Head further down the river and you’ll find some nice camping spots.  Just be warned that there are lots of people walking on the paths, so you won’t be alone.  On weekends and holidays, there might be lots of other campers too. - **Type:** Wild camping - **Pros:** Easy to get to (even without car); easy trails; can swim in the river – though it will be freezing cold - **Cons:** Don’t expect to be alone; bring water or a water treatment method; no bathrooms – you’ll need to dig a cathole; some trash - **Location/Directions:** Go to the monastery Celije and then start following the trail down from the parking lot (on the West side of the river). You can follow the river North or South – there are camping spots regardless of which direction you go in.   <https://goo.gl/maps/xS7WTYHViK82> ### Zlot Canyon ![camping in zlot canyon serbia](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/40-1-1024x576.jpg "40 (1) - Mom Goes Camping") First visit Zlot cave (aka Lazar’s cave) and then go hiking in the canyon.  Or hike to the top of the mountain to find a camping spot.  Just beware of venomous viper snakes in this area!  There is no water source on the top, so you’ll have to lug all your water up with you. - **Type:** Wild camping - **Pros:** Lots of bats flying around; will be secluded as there aren’t many hikers in the area - **Cons:** Snakes; no water; no bathroom; no good maps available - **Location:** <https://goo.gl/maps/r15X1BfP6352> ### Jastrebac ![mountain home in jastrebac serbia](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/DSCF3089-1-1024x682.jpg "DSCF3089 (1) - Mom Goes Camping") This is a big mountain area near the city of Krusevac.  You can easily find wild camping spots.  Or stay in the Mountaineer Organization’s Home (you can camp in the yard too). - **Type:** Wild camping or in mountain home - **Pros:** Lots of easy and hard trails - **Cons:** No facilities - **Location: <https://goo.gl/maps/cpfC1NymFQ72>** - **Mountain Home Info:** 037 873512, <http://www.pdpobeda.rs/pldomovi/jastrebac.htm> ## Montenegro Camping Spots ### Canyon Mrtvica ![camping in canyon mrtvica in montenegro](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/IMG_1555-1-682x1024.jpg "IMG_1555 (1) - Mom Goes Camping") - **Type:** Wild camping - **Pros:** Beautiful canyon; cool old bridge; great cliffs and crystal-clear water - **Cons:** Hard to get to without car; couldn’t find any good maps; lots of snakes! Not good for swimming - **Location: <https://goo.gl/maps/ahYQbcXgyC22>** - **More Info: <http://www.summitpost.org/mrtvica-canyon/173740>** ### Rozaje ![camping in rozaje montenegro](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/IMG_1607-1-682x1024.jpg "IMG_1607 (1) - Mom Goes Camping") At the end of the city on the road to Kosovo, I accidentally found the local swimming hole and decided to camp there for the night.  It was great!  The nature is so beautiful and the locals were friendly.  Just be warned that some kids might show up at 1am wanting and be surprised to find you camping in their makeout spot!  😉 - **Type:** Semi-wild camping - **Pros:** Very easy to get to; nice locals in area; swimming hole; easy hikes around the area - **Cons:** Not exactly untouched nature; no bathrooms - **Location: <https://goo.gl/maps/pbUtaU1QeRp>** ## Bulgaria ### Belogradchik ![camping in belogradchik bulgaria](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/belogradchik.jpg "belogradchik - Mom Goes Camping") After [getting sick while camping](https://momgoescamping.com/get-sick-camping/) in a nearby cave (which I write about here), Isabel and I went to a campground called Madonna just about 1km outside of the city Belogradchik (which is famous for its rock formations).  It was a great campground and we could hear owls hooting all night. - **Type:** Campground - **Pros:** All the basic facilities you need; close to the city and nature park; affordable (paid 5 euros per night per person; kids free) - **Cons:** None - **Location: <https://goo.gl/maps/AWmC8PWG8r12>** ### Magura Cave ![magura cave bulgaria](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/magura.jpg "magura - Mom Goes Camping") This is an amazing cave in which was found prehistoric drawings.  The cool thing about the cave is that you can walk through it on your own without a guide.  There aren’t really any good wild camping spots nearby (at least ones that you can walk to).  If you have a car, you could drive around to find a camping spot. As of 2016, there is now a small hotel near the road that goes up to the cave.  You can camp in their yard. - **Type:** Kind-of campground - **Pros:** The cave is awesome - **Cons:** Really hard to get to without a car - **Location: <https://goo.gl/maps/czdq6YPL9gT2>** ## Camping in the Balkans FAQ: #### Is wild camping legal in the Balkans? Generally yes wild camping is tolerated across most of Serbia, Montenegro, Albania, Kosovo, and Bulgaria outside of national park designated zones. You won’t find rangers patrolling or fines being issued for pitching a tent by a river or on a mountainside. The bigger practical concern isn’t legality — it’s finding a spot without too much trash, and letting locals know what you’re doing if you’re near private property. #### Is it safe to camp alone in the Balkans? In most areas, yes. The biggest safety concerns are stray dogs (common throughout the region), venomous snakes (vipers are present in rocky and forested areas make noise and watch where you step), and not having a way out if something goes wrong in remote areas. Tell someone your plan before going remote. The locals are almost universally helpful and friendly. #### What gear do you need for wild camping in the Balkans? A water filter is non-negotiable safe tap water and marked water sources are rare outside of organized campgrounds. A good map or downloaded offline trail data matters more here than in Western Europe, where trails are marked. A folding trowel for cat holes since bathrooms don’t exist on most trails. And cash — cards aren’t accepted in rural areas. #### What’s the best time of year to camp in the Balkans? May-June and September-October are the sweet spots temperatures are comfortable, trails aren’t crowded, and the mountains aren’t snowbound. July and August are doable but hot at lower elevations, and popular spots get crowded with local vacationers. Winter camping is possible but the infrastructure (what little exists) shuts down completely. #### Do I need a car to camp in the Balkans? For most of the best spots, yes bus routes exist between cities but don’t reach trailheads or lake shores. A few spots like Gjipe Beach in Albania and some Serbia spots near Valjevo are reachable without a car if you’re willing to walk or hitchhike from the nearest town. If you’re carless, build flexibility into your plans and don’t rely on transport schedules. I’ll be adding to this post.  If you know of any great camping spots in the Balkans, let me know! ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids --- ### [5 Great European Bike Tours for Families](https://momgoescamping.com/european-bike-tours-families/) **Published:** October 9, 2017 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Cycling tours are a great alternative way to travel to destinations you might not see otherwise. These bicycle tours are not possible from a rental car or train. You just need [good condition bikes](http://bestmtbgear.com/best-hardtail-mountain-bike/) to enjoy the rides.Yes, it might seem crazy to travel by bike with young kids.  However, there are a lot of people who have done it.  Their kids often surprise them at how well they handle the trip (not that there won’t be some whining and complaining along the way). Of course you are going to need special gear for kids, but it’s still a pretty cheap adventure holiday. 🙂 For some good resources on bike touring with families, check out these blogs and articles: - [Rascal Rides](http://rascalrides.com/bicycle-touring-with-kids/) - [Travelling Two](http://travellingtwo.com/category/bicycle-touring-with-kids) - [Family on a Bike](http://www.familyonabike.org/) ## Choosing a Family Cycling Tour As you decide on a bike tour, consider whether you would enjoy a guided tour or a self-guided experience. Guided tours come with the benefit of a local to tell you lots of information and will probably provide gear and meals too.  However, you are pretty much stuck with their schedule and plan. A self-guided cycling tour gives you more independence and freedom. It allows you to ride at your pace as you make stops are various sites.  And expect to make lots of extra stops when cycling with kids! If you aren’t sure which bike makes sense for the tour, [buy bikes online](https://www.bikesonline.com/) has a “bike finder” tool which includes kids’ bikes too. ## 1. Cycling the French Riviera (Côte d’Azur) ![Cote dAzur](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Cote-dAzur.jpg "Cote dAzur - Mom Goes Camping") This is an ideal destination for sea. The path goes through the red-orange, colored villages, cities and towns, and transverses along a two-hundred-mile of the Mediterranean coast. On the sides we have the olive, ochre-colored little hills and mountains, on the other side; we have a beach bordering blue-smooth sapphire waters extending further to the horizon, under the azure skies covered with beautiful white clouds. Families can plan to visit in June to see the greener vegetation. The water temperatures are about 21ºC/70ºF. Or come during in the last days of August or September to swim in the warm waters (about 24ºC/75ºF). In some years seasons change. In October and November, the weather is warmer. Your family will enjoy a bike ride on the bicycle path surfaces and the road; the paths do not have potholes, they are smooth and flat. You will trace your way about easily. The bike routes are well marked. ## 2. Gastronomic Adventure Cycling the Dordogne ![dordogne](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/dordogne.jpg "dordogne - Mom Goes Camping") Dordogne nestled in South France is a popular choice for family holidays. It is known for its fantastic wine production, marvelous scenery, and delicious dishes. There is much to enjoy here. Dordogne is well suited for cycling holidays. The place has a beautiful climate, attractive historic sites and stunning landscapes found in the locality. Also, you do not have to worry about your luggage, as it can be transported in between hotels so you can have fun cycling. Cycling around will give you a chance to sample some regional delicacies ranging from truffles to foie gras and the locally produced walnuts. Arriving in Souillac the cycling holiday becomes merrier. The place is home to fantastic attractions. The most striking is the Benedictine Abbey you can explore on you two wheels. Pedaling through Salat the following day with your family becomes even more attractive. You have two routes; you can choose one that suits you. The more challenging course goes over the river down through Carlux and to St Nathalene through the magical wooded countryside. The gentler route will see you find your way down Dordogne Valley and give you a chance to savor the ever-so-tempting lunch at the grand Chateau de Fenelon, which also houses fascinating artifacts dating back between the 15th and 18th century. The mansion is an attractive place to visit. Other places you would want to sample next time you are visiting include the Lez Ezyies, the lively St.Cyprien, The Roc de Cazelle a historic village and many more fascinating places. The region around Dordogne is especially excellent for cycling trips. It has lovely food and plenty of amazing scenery. For all your family cycling holidays, sample this place. ## 3. Cycling Routes of Switzerland ![switzerland rhone](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/switzerland-rhone.jpg "switzerland rhone - Mom Goes Camping") The Swiss love cycling and their country cross through by a network of (8,300km) 5,157 miles of bike paths and routes on 55 regional pathways and nine national. The country has many cycling routes but here are top routes for cycling in the Switzerland: **Rhone Route** – It is the most popular route for the Swiss Cyclists. It starts in Geneva and combines the path of bicycle paths and lanes dedicated along the roads. One cycles along the north shore of Lac Leman (Lake Geneva). The trail goes through the Olympic Museum and Lausanne and many vineyards before reaching Montreux. **Montreux** – Is home to the lakeside Castle de Chillon, the top on the list historical attraction in the country. The bicycle path continues through the banks of the Rhone River going through the International Association Velodrome and Sion, a wine center before ending in Andermatt. The route gently rolls and is suitable for family tours. One may decide to go on through the Rhine through Germany and finally the Netherlands. ## 4. Cycling Alentejo, Portugal ![alentejo](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/alentejo.jpg "alentejo - Mom Goes Camping") Alentejo is the province across the Tejo River in Portugal. It is a main flat, arid land full of scrub oak, olive groves, vineyards, cork trees, whitewashed hill towns and a few fields. The land gains elevation as you proceed from the South to the North. Precipitation increases yearly. Alentejo has four advantages for bikers. The town is relatively free of tourists and traffic, and the place is full of charm, it has a good climate, warm and dry during the spring, it is inexpensive making it a destination for you and your family. You can stay in quality hotels and historical-government buildings, (pousadas) at manageable costs. The Alentejo has lots of open landscapes that make riding enjoyable. Along the routes, we have the charming whitewashed town hills. Many are along the “castle route.” For instance, as you cycle your family can sightsee the palace that was by once owned by the Portuguese Royal family. There are also breeding farms for some of the Europeans finest horses, which are open for group and family torus. That’s not all; you have Moorish fountains, Sprinkled Dolmens, and historic churches. ## 5. Liguria, Italy ![liguria](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/liquria.jpg "liquria - Mom Goes Camping") Italy has plenty of fascinating scenic cycle tours around the Liguria region. The Cinque Terre is stunningly beautiful it has picture-perfect villages along its dramatic rugged coastline. Cycling here is interesting and varied. The views are magnificent and breathtaking. Plus the food is plenty for families that visit the site for cycling tours. If you are looking for an active and fun vacation to spend with your family, why don’t you think of hopping on your bicycles? Riding through the picturesque scenery is fun and a good way for family bonding. **Remember that not all places in Europe are friendly to campers.  If you plan on doing a multi-day bike trip with your family, check the [wild camping laws](https://momgoescamping.com/wild-camping-laws-europe/) of where you are going!** --- Image credits: “[Trek Transport cargo bike](https://www.flickr.com/photos/geiranders/6963586090/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [geiranders1970](https://www.flickr.com/people/geiranders/)“[Furka Pass](https://www.flickr.com/photos/willj/35064493660/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [will\_cyclist](https://www.flickr.com/people/willj/)“[Cotê d’Azur](https://www.flickr.com/photos/zero_data/641546508/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [fzurell](https://www.flickr.com/people/zero_data/)“[Dordogne](https://www.flickr.com/photos/romytetue/3851187309/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [tetue](https://www.flickr.com/people/romytetue/)“[Alentejo](https://www.flickr.com/photos/salomaonunes/3948948694/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Salomao Nunes](https://www.flickr.com/people/salomaonunes/)“[Liguria](https://www.flickr.com/photos/karjoh/33751357633/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Karl Jóhannesson](https://www.flickr.com/people/karjoh/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids --- ### [The Best Camping Spots of Australia](https://momgoescamping.com/the-best-camping-spots-of-australia/) **Published:** July 17, 2018 **Author:** Diane **Content:** If you love nature, camping is one of the best ways to immerse yourself in it and truly appreciate it. However, good camping spots can sometimes be hard to find, especially when there are so many equally beautiful options. So, if you find yourself in the Land Down Under, here are some of the best camping spots. ## Lane Poole Reserve ![Lane Poole reserve](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/3848407888_78f66beb3e_z.jpg "lane poole reserve - Mom Goes Camping") This place is a paradise for every nature lover. There are many beautiful swimming spots, and there are plenty of opportunities for fishing, rafting, canoeing, or simply relaxing and enjoying the gorgeous scenery. You should also bring a camera, as the landscape is truly breathtaking, and you might even run into some wildlife. Finally, there are many campsites in the area, and Lane Poole is located only two hours south of Perth. ## Karijini Eco Retreat ![Karijini National Park](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/7641735744_ba323ce5b4_z.jpg "Karijini National Park - Mom Goes Camping") If you’re looking for something that is [a bit more eco-friendly](https://www.ecowatch.com/6-tips-to-green-your-camping-trip-1881915373.html), make sure to check out Karijini Eco Retreat. It has many semi-permanent canvas huts in the middle of the Joffre Gorge bushland, which is a part of the Karijini National Park. Every hut consists of linen bedding, natural ventilation, wooden floors, and many other green fixtures. The huts are very comfortable, and their effect on the environment is minimal. So, if you want to be in harmony with nature, this kind of accommodation might be ideal for you. ## Ingenia Holidays Lake Macquarie This campsite is perfect for everybody who enjoys lakes, calm water, and beaches. There are many national parks in the area and plenty of gorgeous beaches where you can relax and unwind. However, the star of the show is definitely the lake; you can go for a boat ride and appreciate its beauty all day. There are also many accommodation options near the lake in case you want to take a break from your tent. ## Bay of fires ![bay of fires](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/8301863972_0912b72206_z.jpg "bay of fires - Mom Goes Camping") If you’re looking for something a bit more affordable but still beautiful, consider visiting Bay of fires in Tasmania. It has everything you could ask for, from the white sandy beaches to the breathtaking azure sea. It’s also not that crowded, so it’s a great option if you like camping in peace. Moreover, there are lots of activities you can do here, like bird watching, fishing (get [FSS lures](https://www.fishingsuperstore.com.au/fishing-lures/) here), swimming, etc. Just don’t forget [to visit a good camping store](https://www.wildearth.com.au/) and get all the camping equipment you might need. Also, St Helens is not too far away, in case you need to buy food or petrol. ## Berry Showground Campsite ![Berry Showground](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/20254388379_0b6cb29e04_z.jpg "Berry Showground - Mom Goes Camping") If you like to share your adventures with your four-legged furry friend, consider visiting this campsite. Berry Showground Campsite is pet-friendly, has well-maintained lawns, plenty of shade, and many historic buildings on site. It’s perfect for camping whether you [prefer to camp with a tent](https://momgoescamping.com/tent-buying-guide/), trailer, or caravan. There is also a railway station right behind the Showground, so you can also take a break from camping and visit some other city for a day. ## Bitter Springs ![bitter springs australia](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/14890117773_526a9a4b2a_z.jpg "bitter springs australia - Mom Goes Camping") The springs in Elsey National Park are bound to leave you speechless because they are just so beautiful, you have to see them to believe it. They are located about two kilometers away from Mataranka, and they are surrounded by palms and other tropical plants. The pools are ideal for relaxing after a long road trip, and they will definitely make you want to stick around for a while and explore the national park. ## Cape Le Grand National Park ![Cape Le Grand National Park](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/14927076923_9a90ff9683_z.jpg "Cape Le Grand National Park - Mom Goes Camping") If you love Australian wildlife, you will enjoy this campsite. There aren’t that many places where you can see kangaroos sunbathing on the beach, but at Cape Le Grand National Park, this is a normal daily sight. The park is known for its gorgeous scenery and beaches where you can go swimming, fishing, and camping. The atmosphere is very peaceful as well, which makes it perfect for family picnics. There are also many bushwalking trails, in case you want to explore and take some interesting photos. In spring, this campsite becomes amazingly colorful as wildflowers start to bloom, so it’s safe to say that it is one of the most beautiful campsites in Australia. If you love spending time in nature and enjoying the peaceful atmosphere away from the hustle and bustle of big cities, then you should definitely check out some of the many Australian campsites. They are stunning, and they have everything you need to recharge your batteries. Therefore, pack your bags, get all the necessary equipment, and enjoy the breathtaking nature of the Land Down Under. **Author Bio:** ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/roxana.jpg "roxana - Mom Goes Camping") Roxana is a Travel and Lifestyle blogger from Australia, who now lives in Europe. Being a typical Aussie she loves the waves, nature and the sunshine. Always on the move, she loves to write about her adventures and the great food she discovers on her way. Join her for her next adventure on [highstylife.com.](https://highstylife.com/) --- Image credits: “[Bay\_of\_Fires: (img\_6238)](https://www.flickr.com/photos/gawthrop/8301863972/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Peter Gawthrop](https://www.flickr.com/people/gawthrop/) “[Nowra. Overlooking the Shoalhaven River](https://www.flickr.com/photos/82134796@N03/20254388379/)” ([CC BY-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/2.0/)) by [denisbin](https://www.flickr.com/people/82134796@N03/) “[Island Pool](https://www.flickr.com/photos/41758531@N08/3848407888/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [FCB Excalibur](https://www.flickr.com/people/41758531@N08/) “[Camping at Karijini National Park](https://www.flickr.com/photos/huskyte/7641735744/)” ([CC BY-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/2.0/)) by [huskyte77](https://www.flickr.com/people/huskyte/) “Bitter Springs, Australia, https://www.flickr.com/photos/78400779@N07/14890117773/, ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by Kia Kruse, https://www.flickr.com/people/78400779@N07/ “Altitude 19.3 Metres” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by mike from aus ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids --- ### [Why I'm Not Afraid of Getting Raped](https://momgoescamping.com/not-afraid-getting-raped/) **Published:** October 26, 2016 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I’m a traveler. A *female* traveler. A *female* *hitchhiker*.   And, yes, I even hitchhike with my daughter. When someone finds this out about me, they don’t ask questions like “What’s the coolest place you’ve seen?” or “Who was the most interesting driver who picked you up?”  Instead, I inevitably hear: *“Aren’t you scared???”* And, from those who are direct, the question is: *“Aren’t you worried about getting raped!?”* When people hear that I [hitchhike with my daughter](https://momgoescamping.com/why/), the comments can turn particularly ugly, like…  *“There are lots of unidentified bodies found in ditches. I hope you and your daughter don’t end up becoming one of them.”* I actually heard the “unidentified bodies” comment twice from two separate strangers! ![Hitchhiking with my daughter in Albania](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/P1120214-1024x576.jpg "hitchhiking - Mom Goes Camping")Hitchhiking with my daughter in Albania ## Yes, Women Are Raped and Assaulted Every Day The rape statistics are very daunting for women.  According to [RAINN](https://www.rainn.org/statistics/scope-problem), 1 out of 6 women was the victim of a rape or attempted rape. We watch rape as partly of our nightly TV ritual on shows like SVU and Criminal Minds. Even our *fairy tale characters* get raped (I’m talking about you Snow White and Sleeping Beauty!   The poison apple and spinning wheel needle might as well be a roofie!). I personally can testify to how common sexual assault is.  I was sexually molested *twice* before even entering high school. Faced with the alarming statistics, and my personal experiences, you’d think that I would live in fear of getting raped.  That I would take caution.  That I wouldn’t do “reckless” things like hitchhiking… Obviously, that isn’t the case. Here’s why. ![Even our fairy tale characters get raped.](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/sleeping-beauty.jpg "sleeping-beauty - Mom Goes Camping")Even our fairy tale characters get raped ## Rape Is About Taking Away a Woman’s Power In her argument that rape is a hate crime, Laura Goode reports that 95% of rapists say they rape women “to make up for self-perceived feelings of personal or sexual inadequacy” or they find “the victim to be an easy target for release of his general anger toward women.”  The other 5%? They do it sadistically because they get off on hurting women. > **“Rape, in short, is a crime fueled by hatred—towards women, towards their power, towards their ability to choose their sexual partners and enjoy consensual sex.”** Yet, surprisingly 26% of people still think that rape is a crime of passion or lack of self-control.  As [Julie Bindel writes at The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/18/rape-sexual-assault-women), even some prominent feminists doubted one woman’s rape claim because she was “too ugly to rape.” ## Women Live in Fear of Being Raped When I started researching for this article, I was surprisingly not-surprised to learn that there is a term for the fear of getting raped: *virgivitiphobia.* Apparently, virgivitiphobia is very common. In the book [*The Female Fear: The Social Cost of Rape*](http://amzn.to/2ed98QB), the authors found that: - 1/3 of women worry at least once per month about being raped, - 1/3 of women said that “fear of being raped” is “part of the background” of their lives and “one of those things that’s always there,” - And 1/3 of women said they never worried about being raped, but still take precautions – unconsciously or consciously – to avoid being raped. Basically, the threat of rape is so prevalent that nearly all women either live in fear of rape or change their lives out of fear of rape. Think about that for a minute: ***Nearly all women live in fear of being raped!*** ## What Does It Mean to Live in Fear? Because rape fear is so prevalent and interspersed in our culture (here are just some [examples of rape culture in everyday life](https://everydayfeminism.com/2014/03/examples-of-rape-culture/)), it can be hard to step back and see how it is affecting us.  So let’s think about this through a metaphor. Let’s say that every single day, you heard that, “Cars are dangerous!” “If you get in a car, you are taking a big risk of getting in an accident!” “1 in 6 people will have a car accident in their life!” If you heard this message every day, the fear would eventually sink in.  You might still drive a car – but only during certain times and on certain roads.  Eventually, you’d stop going so many places by car.  Without public transport or other alternatives, you might end up trapped at home. *You’d find your options limited by fear.* Well, this is the same thing that happens with rape fear. Of course men are also the victims of rape (though [women are disproportionately likely to be victims](http://www.womenundersiegeproject.org/blog/entry/a-competition-of-suffering-male-vs.-female-rape)).  The difference is that men are never told to “be cautious” because they might get raped.   I never once have heard a male hitchhiker be asked about fear of rape! ## The Vicious Circle of Disempowerment Yes, it is nice to daydream about a world in which women can roam freely without fear. This is not the world we live in yet.  So, it is reasonable to take precautions, right? At least I shouldn’t take my daughter hitchhiking with me… NO, the solution is NOT to live cautiously! When you tell me not to do something (travel, hitchhike, camping…) because it is “risky” to me as a woman, then you are giving the rapists and abusers power.  You are falling into the mentality that women should stay “in their place.”  So long as women don’t seek equal freedoms and rights as men, we will be safe. ### **With every warning to “be cautious,” you are taking away my choices and power in the same way that a rapist does.** This leads to an endless cycle where women continue to be disempowered. Men rape -> women get scared -> women deny themselves freedom -> women lose their power in the process -> Men continue raping to further disempower women As a mother to a daughter (and as a human being), this cycle of disempowerment is something that I can’t allow to happen.  I can’t let my daughter see me taking “precautions” and not engaging in certain activities because it is more dangerous for women. ## The Burden Should Not Be On Women Not to Get Raped One of the first rape-related articles I found when searching was a [Wiki How article on How to Avoid Being Raped (with pictures)](http://www.wikihow.com/Avoid-Being-Raped). Some of its handy suggestions are “don’t get drunk,” “get drunk with a sober friend” and “watch the bartender pour the drink.”  It then goes on to tell you that rape is committed by sad men seeking power, so there isn’t really any way to avoid it.  Basically, live in fear. That sure feels empowering.  Or not. When a woman doesn’t abide by the rules she’s supposed to follow to avoid getting raped – in other words, lives her lives freely – it becomes *her* fault if she gets raped. *She was hitchhiking. She should have known better.* *What was she doing alone at night in that neighborhood?* *She should have been more careful about accepting that drink.* The burden should not be on women to avoid being raped.  Men simply should not rape. ![Don't tell women what not to wear. Tell men not to rape.](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/tell-men-not-to-rape.jpg "tell-men-not-to-rape - Mom Goes Camping") ## I Refuse to Be Scared In feminist and rape activism jargon, you’ll hear the terms “victim” and “survivor” being used deliberately. - **vic·tim:**one that is acted on and usually adversely affected by a force or agent; one that is injured, destroyed, or sacrificed under any of various conditions; one that is subjected to oppression, hardship, or mistreatment. - **sur·vi·vor:**one who lives through affliction; one who continues to function or prosper in spite of opposition, hardship, or setbacks. I’ll first point out that there are a lot of faults with these terms, such as the unpopular opinion that the term survivor suggests rape is some empowering event in a woman’s life, and that both terms put the focus on the woman and not the perpetrator. However, for most people, these terms have strong connotations. I like how Rachel Waddingham wrote in her piece [Who Am I? Victim or Survivor?](http://www.behindthelabel.co.uk/who-am-i/): > “As a survivor, I have the opportunity to recognise the impact of my life experiences without being a victim. I can hold on to the reality of what I have been through whilst recognising that this is in the past. I have ultimate control of how this affects me in the present. **Those who have hurt me have no power except that which I give them**.” This last part resonates with me.  If I allow my fears to stop me from doing the things I love (hitchhiking being a big one), then I’m turning myself into a victim.  The irony is that I’d victimize *myself* before anyone had even harmed me! I’m not going to give up my power that readily! I’d rather live as a survivor.  Someone who heard all the warnings but decided that she wasn’t going to let a few shitty people change her life.  She’s going to live on her terms.  If any man feels threatened by that, then that is his problem! ## How Would I Handle It If I Did Get Raped? Well, there was that one time in Georgia where I had to kick and bite a guy who was getting violent. I was pissed about it for days.  Yes, **angry at *him***.  Not angry at myself for talking with strangers.  Nor was I thinking of all the things that I could have done differently.  **He is the one to blame for his actions, not me.** Yes, I still wear boots (for kicking) or sneakers (for running away) while hitchhiking, and scope out cars before I get in.  The idea of getting an STD from a rape or halting my travel plans to file a police report is really angering. But hitchhiking is something I love and I won’t give it up just because someone told me that I should be scared of being raped. I simply cannot allow myself to be scared. So go have whatever “risky” adventures you want.  If someone attacks you because you are a women, it is their issue – not yours! But don’t give away your power just because someone told you that you should be scared. ### Has fear because of your gender, race, or sexual orientation ever stopped you from doing something you love? How do you deal with it? Image credits: “[Tell Men Not to Rape](https://www.flickr.com/photos/tensory/6547920293/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [tensory](https://www.flickr.com/people/tensory/)“[la gomera](https://www.flickr.com/photos/zhana_yordanova/17263620576/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [www.zhanayordanova.com](https://www.flickr.com/people/zhana_yordanova/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety **Tags:** rape, solo travel --- ### [6 Ways to Lay a Fire that Every Camper Should Know](https://momgoescamping.com/fire-lays/) **Published:** November 2, 2016 **Author:** Diane **Content:** There are numerous ways to arrange your kindling and fuel wood to get a fire going.  These are called “fire lays.”  Depending on the circumstances, some ways of building a fire are a lot better than others.  For example, you’d want to use a different fire lay in [wet conditions](https://momgoescamping.com/make-fire-rain/) than in dry conditions.  Here I will go over the 6 main ways to build a fire, when to use them, and their pros/cons.   Be sure to always follow best practices when it comes to fire safety- particularly when kids are around. [Fire safety](https://momgoescamping.com/fire-safety-for-kids/) is no joke – if you have ever seen a child with burns you will know how easy accidents can happen and the devastating consequences. ## 1. Teepee Fire Lay ![teepee fire lay](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/teepee-fire-lay.jpg "teepee fire lay - Mom Goes Camping") The teepee (also called tipi) fire lay is the most commonly used.  It’s easy to light and you can easily adjust the size of the fire.  The downsides are that the fire will burn through a lot of wood quickly.  The configuration also doesn’t protect against rain or wind. - **Pros:** Very easy - **Cons:** Uses lots of wood; no protection from rain or wind **Instructions:** 1. Put some tinder in the middle of your fire circle.  Toilet paper or cotton balls covered in Vaseline work well. Or use a[ flint](https://amzn.to/4il84XY). 2. Start with very small sticks (kindling). 3. Arrange the sticks into a teepee shape over the tinder. Make sure to leave a little “door” so you can light the tinder later. 4. Keep adding more sticks to your teepee.  Use larger sticks as you build up the teepee. 5. Reach in through the “door” and light the tinder. [![tipi fire lay](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/tipi-fire-lay.jpg "tipi fire lay - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/tipi-fire-lay.jpg) --- ## 2. Lean-To Fire Lay ![lean to fire lay](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/lean-to-fire-lay.jpg "lean to fire lay - Mom Goes Camping") The lean-to fire lay creates a “roof” over the fire.  The roof protects the fire from rain or wind.  I’ve actually used these several times to [get fire going in the pouring rain](https://momgoescamping.com/make-fire-rain/).  But it’s definitely a next-level skill and it takes some practice. - **Pros:** Good for rainy or windy conditions - **Cons:** Takes more skill to build; restricts airflow so harder to light **Instructions:** 1. Find a large log or rock.  This is the main “wall” for your lean-to. 2. Prop small sticks on the wall.  This is the start of your lean-to “roof.” 3. Keep adding sticks on top of the frame, using larger sticks as you build up. 4. Build a teepee fire underneath the roof. 5. As the teepee fire burns, it will ignite the sticks on the roof above it.  Those sticks will then ignite the sticks above them, and so forth. 6. Keep adding sticks to the wall as it burns down. ![Lean-To Fire Lay](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/IMG_3237-1024x683.jpg "lean to fire - Mom Goes Camping")Lean To Fire Lay on a very windy day Here’s an A-frame fire. It’s drizzling rain in this picture but the fire stayed lit so long as we kept putting wood over the “frame” --- ## 3. A-Frame Fire Lay ![a frame fire lay](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/a-frame-fire-lay.jpg "a frame fire lay - Mom Goes Camping") The A-frame fire lay is similar to the lean-to: both create a roof over the fire which protects it from wind and rain.  With the A-frame though, your central “beam” will eventually ignite and burn down, so it isn’t as good if you want a very long-lasting campfire. - **Pros:** Good for rainy or windy conditions - **Cons:** Takes more skill to build; restricts airflow so harder to light; central beam will eventually burn down **Instructions:** 1. Find a longish, thick branch or log.  This is the central “beam” for your A-frame. 2. Prop the beam on something, such as a rock or log. 3. Lay small sticks on both sides of the beam to make walls. 4. Keep adding sticks to build up the walls, using larger sticks as you build up. 5. Build a small teepee fire underneath the main beam. 6. As the fire burns, it will ignite the sticks on the roof above it.  Those sticks will then ignite the sticks above them, and so forth. 7. Keep adding sticks to the walls as they burn. ![a-frame fire lay](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/a-frame-fire.jpg "a frame fire - Mom Goes Camping")*It was drizzling rain this day but the A frame lay kept the fire from getting wet* --- ## 4. Log Cabin Fire Lay ![log cabin fire lay](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/log-cabin-fire-lay.jpg "log cabin fire lay - Mom Goes Camping") For this fire lay, you build up walls around a teepee fire.  The walls block wind.  Personally, I find the lean-to fire much more effective at blocking wind.  However, the log cabin can also be useful if you want to dry out wet wood.  If properly built, the walls of the cabin will fall into the fire themselves, creating a long-lasting fire that you don’t have to feed. - **Pros:**  Once built, it requires less effort to maintain; protects against wind; good for drying out wet wood - **Cons:** Takes longer to build **Instructions:** 1. Build a teepee fire 2. Build a “fence” around the teepee by stacking kindling sticks on top of each other 3. As the teepee burns, the fence will fall in on the teepee, creating a self-feeding fire. --- ## 5. Star Fire/Cross Fire ![star fire lay](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/star-fire-lay.jpg "star fire lay - Mom Goes Camping") This is the fire lay you always see in cowboy movies.  The reason is because there wasn’t much wood on the open range and the star fire lets you make a small, slow-burning fire that doesn’t require much fuel.  I find it only works well with very dry wood.  If the wood is even slightly damp, the ends will smolder instead of burn. - **Pros:** Uses very little firewood; good for cooking - **Cons:** Makes just a small fire; not good for wet wood; hard to keep going **Instructions:** 1. Start by making a small teepee fire. 2. Instead of laying your fuelwood across the fire, you just put the ends of the fuelwood into the fire. 3. As the ends of the wood burn, push the wood further into the center. ![star fire lay](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/star-fire.jpg "star fire - Mom Goes Camping")This is what the star fire looks like in real life Yes Im breastfeeding my baby in this photo 😮 --- ## 6. Pyramid Fire Lay ![pyramid fire lay](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/pyramid-fire-lay.jpg "pyramid fire lay - Mom Goes Camping") Also known as the upside down fire or pyramid fire, this is what you’d use to make a massive bonfire that you don’t want to tend.  It’s also good if all your fuel wood is wet: as the fire burns down, it will dry off the layers of wood in the pyramid.  I sometimes use this as a base for a lean-to fire when it’s raining.  Because the fire lay is so tall, it is dangerous in windy conditions: sparks will go flying everywhere! - **Pros:** Makes long-lasting fire; dries out wet fuel wood - **Cons:** Requires lots of wood; high risk of forest fire **Instructions:** - Start with your largest pieces of fuel wood. - Arrange pieces of fuel wood in a layer on the ground - Add another layer of fuel wood on top of this, but in the opposite direction. - Keep adding layers, changing direction as you stack them up. - As the stack grows, it should get smaller to make a pyramid shape. - When you’re satisfied with your pyramid, you build a teepee fire on top.  When the teepee fire burns down, it will light the fuel wood below it. ![upside down fire in the rain](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/upside-down-fire.jpg "upside down fire - Mom Goes Camping")Heres a small pyramid fire I used it as a base for a teepee fire The ground was really wet so the pyramid got the fire off the ground As the teepee burned it dried out the wood in the pyramid ## Fire Lay FAQ: #### Which fire lay is best for camping? For most camping situations, the teepee fire lay is the best starting point — it’s easy to build, easy to light, and easy to adjust. If it’s raining or windy, switch to a lean-to or A-frame instead, since the roof protects the fire while it catches. For a long-lasting fire you don’t want to tend all night, use a log cabin or pyramid lay. The star fire is best when you’re low on wood and just need a small cooking fire. --- [![ways to lay a campfire](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/ways-to-lay-a-fire.jpg "ways to lay a fire - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/ways-to-lay-a-fire.jpg) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety **Tags:** fire --- ### [11 Life Lessons I've Learned as a Solo Female Hitchhiker](https://momgoescamping.com/hitchhiking-life-lessons/) **Published:** December 7, 2016 **Author:** Diane **Content:** The first time I tried hitchhiking I was 19 years old and wanted to get a ride out of Munich towards the Balkans. I was terrified – not so much of getting attacked or raped.  Rather, it was more the “unknown” that freaked me out. *What would I say to the driver?* *Would it be awkward?* *What if we can’t speak the same language???* That very first hitchhiking ride was ridiculously easy.  I didn’t even have to put my thumb out.  A driver saw me walking towards the autobahn and stopped his car.  He was soooo excited to see a hitchhiker and eagerly told me how he used to hitchhike in his younger years. It turns out that the experience of hitchhiking is something that sticks with you all your life and it’s no wonder that hitchhikers all over the world feel a special bond and comradery. Not all my rides have been as easy as that first one.  I’ve had to scream at men who think it’s okay to put their hands on my legs without consent.  I’ve waited on rural roads for *hours* watching nothing but dust go by (and trying to keep my spirits up).  I got let off at bad spots and had to walk miles to better places… Considering that I can actually afford a bus or train ticket, why do I keep hitchhiking in face of these difficulties? Nothing good in life is easy.  We have to constantly work on it, push ourselves, and avoid complacency.  This includes all of the “life lessons” that we pick up along the journey of life.  For me, hitchhiking is the best way to practice these life lessons.  Here are just some of the life lessons that I’ve learned – and am constantly relearning – each time I stick my thumb out on the side of the road. ## 1. Be Patient As a solo female hitchhiker, I’ve never had to wait long on the road.  Now I hitchhike with my daughter and she’ so damn cute that the first car always stops.   But there are still those times when we’ve had to wait for hours just for a single car to go by.  You learn to appreciate the view and look at all the little things around you. ![Isabel and me waiting while absolutely no cars go by.](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/hitchhiking-kosovo.jpg "hitchhiking-kosovo - Mom Goes Camping")Isabel and me waiting while absolutely no cars go by ## 2. Be Vocal When Someone Is Making Your Uncomfortable As [Alicia McKay points out](https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/stop-being-nice-7-reasons-why-your-niceness-dangerous-alicia-mckay), girls are raised to be “polite” even if it entails sparing the feelings of people who disregard theirs. No wonder that [women don’t speak up in situations of sexual assault](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/12/women-sexual-harrassment-sexism-deescalation). As a hitchhiker though, you can’t just sit there and let an uncomfortable situation escalate into something worse. Like that time a guy put his hand on my leg, thinking it was a perfectly okay thing to do.  He was, after all, giving me a free ride so I must “owe him.” I calmly but very firmly told him to STOP touching me and STOP the car.  I then gave him a bit of a screaming lecture (he wasn’t expecting that) about the proper way to treat a lady.  He was shocked, to say the least.  I think it was the first time a woman had ever spoken back to him. ## 3. The World Is Not a Scary Place Aside from a few random creeps, pretty much everyone I have met while hitchhiking has been incredibly wonderful.   In fact, they are *eager* to help and some seem downright starved for genuine human interaction. It makes me realize how much [stranger danger is a complete load of crap](https://momgoescamping.com/stranger-danger/).  Serial killers aren’t lurking around every corner waiting to rape and kill you.  Yes, bad things do happen – but if you let the [overblown fear of getting raped](https://momgoescamping.com/not-afraid-getting-raped/) dictate your actions, you will miss out on so much. ![A lovely Georigan family who gave me a ride](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/17.jpg "17 - Mom Goes Camping")A lovely Georigan family who gave me a ride down from the monastery they were visiting Nine of us piled into their jeep ## 4. Everyone Is Interesting This is the #1 lesson that hitchhiking has taught me, and I probably wouldn’t have learned it otherwise.  When you hitchhike, all sorts of people stop to pick you up – especially people outside of your normal “bubble” of friends. You soon start to realize that these seemingly-bland people are quite fascinating.  Like the 24-year old Romanian guy who goes mushroom picking with his wife and her 16 year old son (whom he adopted).  Or the insights you get from the 50 year old Serb lady telling you how the Bosnian Muslim community came to together to help when her son was dying of cancer and the medical bills started piling up… All you need to do is get outside of your bubble and TALK TO PEOPLE and you’ll realize that **everyone has a story to tell and something you can learn from them**. ![Having coffee. Not the type of people I normally hang out with, but I'm glad I met them!](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/P1000440.jpg "hitchhiking in Bosnia - Mom Goes Camping")Having coffee Not the type of people I normally hang out with but they were tons of fun ## 5. Come Prepared Snacks? Check. Water? Check. A crayon and paper for making a sign? Check and check. In life and in hitchhiking, you never know what is going to happen – so make sure you are prepared for the journey. ## 6. You Don’t Need Heels and Makeup for Men to Find You Attractive Ladies, I’m sure you’ve all had those moments where you worried that men would stop finding you attractive if you gave up the burdensome tasks of “beautifying” yourself.   Hitchhiking has proved that this is wrong. There have been many situations where drivers have asked me for my number or to go out on a date.  I’m not talking about the sleazy guys – but some true gentlemen. They asked me out despite the fact that I had road dirt all over me, was all sweaty, and probably stunk a bit too.  See? Men actually can be attracted to a woman because of her adventurous spirit and personality! ![Arriving in Pristina after a long day of hitchhiking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/arrived-2-768x1024.jpg "arrived-2 - Mom Goes Camping")Arriving in Pristina dirty and stinky after a long day of hitchhiking ## 7. Don’t Judge People Based on Appearances Alone It was 5pm on a border town in Bulgaria.  Few cars are passing at this hour.  The ones who do pass make the downward-finger sign to signal that they aren’t going forward. I start to worry. *What if no one stops before nightfall? There aren’t any more buses, what will I do???* Then a beat-up old Russian car stops.  It is so old that the car doesn’t even use a key to start the ignition. You push a button. I get in and the first thing I see is the skull on the gear shift. Then I notice that there are a bunch of KNIVES in the glove box. And then I notice that the guy has a weird skin disease and he literally looks like he’s got lizard scales! I spent the hour ride in semi-terror, telling myself, “*At least the knives are on my side of the car.”*  We didn’t have a common language, so the ride was in silence. Then, we arrive and he asks in sign language for a pen and paper.  He writes, “Hotel?” I try to tell him to just let me off at a bus stop – I will figure it out on my own.  He seems worried so I show him the phone number of the Couchsurfers who will be my hosts.   He then calls them and drives me right to them.  Later I learned from my hosts that he drove me 45 minutes out of his way! So, this seemingly weird guy was actually incredibly kind.  **Appearance doesn’t matter.  Actions do.** ## 8. People Are Pretty Much the Same Everywhere People around the world have different priorities, daily habits, cultural traditions, and norms.  But, when you break through the superficialities, you realize that people are pretty much the same. One moment hitchhiking in Israel and Palestine sticks out in my mind. First I got a ride from an Orthodox Jew from Jerusalem.  We chatted and had a nice ride.  When it was time for him to let me out of the car, he told me, *“Be careful in Jericho.  Oh, wait.  You’re from Serbia.  You will be fine!”* Then a Palestinian Muslim woman picked me up and we had a nice chat during the rest of the way to Jericho.  As she lets me out of the car, she says, *“Be careful.  Oh wait.  You’re from Serbia. You won’t have any problems here!”* I’m not sure if they thought that I’d be fine in Jericho because no one has hostility against Serbs there, or because Serbians must be so tough that I could handle anything.  Regardless, it was hilarious to hear virtually the same comment from two people who are supposed to be so different. ![signs](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/signs-1024x576.jpg "signs - Mom Goes Camping") ## 9. Don’t Get Caught Up in the What-Ifs When hitchhiking isn’t going so well – like when the hundredth car has gone by without stopping – it is tempting to fall into a negative mode of thinking.  You might get angry at yourself for choosing a bad hitchhiking spot, or curse the drivers for not stopping. Sure, things might have been better if you’d done something different or a car stopped right away. But they might have also been *worse*.  Who knows whether you’d have gotten hit by a car or a creep would have stopped… Just be thankful that you are alive and traveling, and enjoy the view.  Once you get to your destination, the bad times won’t seem so overwhelming anymore. ## 10. It’s Good to Have a Map, But It’s Also Okay to Go Off Course Sometimes The one time I hitchhiked without a map, it was from Sarajevo to Belgrade.  A really nice guy invited me to go have lunch with his mom.  Little did I know (because I didn’t have a map) was that his mom lived in the *completely different direction.* I ended up spending the night with the family, who lived in a beautiful little village, and had an amazing time.  I still say it is good to have a map when hitchhiking, but you’ve got to be prepared to go off course when opportunity presents itself. ## 11.  Sometimes You Have to Take a Leap of Faith When I think about all the wonderful places I’ve seen, I can’t help but feel grateful to the world.  If it weren’t for the kindness of complete strangers, I would have never had these opportunities. It isn’t just all the rides I got hitchhiking.  It’s the kindness of strangers who tell you where the best secret beaches are, the coolest cafes, and the strangest attraction that won’t ever make a tour book. Even if hitchhiking isn’t your thing, don’t give up on people.  Make the effort to connect with others and you’ll be amazed at what the world gives you in return. ![One of the beautiful places I could not have seen without hitchhiking. Yes, it is worth it!!! <3](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/4-576x1024.jpg "- Mom Goes Camping")One of the beautiful places I could not have seen without hitchhiking Yes it is worth it <3 ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety **Tags:** hitchhiking --- ### [10 Facts about Mosquitoes that Will Make You Hate them Less](https://momgoescamping.com/mosquito-facts/) **Published:** January 4, 2017 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Mosquitoes are probably the most hated of all insects, and it isn’t just because their bites are annoyingly itchy.  Mosquitoes are considered the most dangerous animal in the world because of how many people die yearly due to diseases like malaria, dengue fever, and yellow fever. Yet, if you take a closer look, you’ll realize that mosquitoes are actually quite fascinating.  These 10 facts about mosquitoes won’t necessarily make them any less annoying or dangerous, but they might make you hate them less. 🙂 ## 1. Mosquitoes Have Been Around Since the Cretaceous Period Long before man dominated the earth, mosquitoes were here.  The oldest known mosquito fossils date back 200 million years! It’s not a coincidence that flowering plants also first appeared during this period because of mosquitoes role in pollination. ![mosquito fossil](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/mosquito-fossil.jpg "mosquito-fossil - Mom Goes Camping") ###### Image credit: [Mosquito in Amber](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber#/media/File:Ambre_Dominique_Moustique.jpg), by [Didier Desouens](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Archaeodontosaurus), Found on Wiki Commons, [CC BY-SA 4.0](http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0) ## 2. Mosquitoes Have an Important Role in the Food Chain You might hate seeing mosquitoes, but you probably love observing other outdoor creatures like fish, frogs, newts, and birds.  Well, without mosquitoes, these critters we love would lose a valuable food source. Mosquitoes lay their eggs in water.  They hatch into larvae which live in the water, feeding off of algae.  These mosquito larvae are an important food source for fish and amphibians.  Once the larvae turn into adults and start to fly, they serve as food for birds, bats, and spiders. ![A tadpole eating mosquito larvae](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/tadpole-eating-mosquito-larvae.jpg "tadpole-eating-mosquito-larvae - Mom Goes Camping")A tadpole eating mosquito larvae ## 3. Mosquitoes Eat Nectar All mosquitoes feed on plant nectar as well as honey dew.  This is how they get energy to sustain themselves.  Just like with other nectar-feeding insects, this makes mosquitoes important pollinators.  Certain plants particularly rely on mosquitoes for pollination – especially goldenrod and orchids. ![A mosquito drinking nectar and helping pollination in the process](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/mosquito-pollination.jpg "mosquito-pollination - Mom Goes Camping")A mosquito drinking nectar and helping pollination in the process ## 4. Only the Females Bite You probably already know that only female mosquitoes suck blood.  But do you know the reason why?  It is because the females need the proteins from our blood to sustain their growing eggs. ## 5.  Mosquitoes Have a Fascinating Way of Hunting As much as you may hate them, you’ve got to appreciate how good mosquitoes are at hunting.  They find hosts by detecting chemicals which are given off in our breath and sweat. Mosquitoes can actually detect over 70 types of odors and chemicals in their antennae! And they can do so from hundreds of feet away. Once the female mosquito picks up the chemical scent, she zooms in on the host.  They can detect the heat from our blood so know exactly where to strike for their meal. ![mosquito-drinking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/mosquito-drinking.jpg "mosquito-drinking - Mom Goes Camping") . ## 6. Mosquitoes Hibernate Ever wonder how mosquitoes make it through the winter?  Like many mammals and insects, many mosquitoes hibernate.  As soon as the temperatures get below 50 degrees F, their bodies slow down (they are cold-blooded).  The males generally die off whereas the females find a hole to sleep in until warmer weather. Not all mosquitoes hibernate though.  Some females lay their eggs in water and then die.  The eggs stay dormant through the winter and then hatch once the weather gets warm ## 7. Mosquitoes Can Fly in the Rain A single raindrop has 55 times more mass than a mosquito – yet mosquitoes can adeptly fly through the rain. How is this possible? Instead of trying to dodge the raindrops like many other flying insects do, mosquitoes just let the raindrops land on them.  The big raindrops lose very little momentum when they crash down on the comparably-tiny mosquito.  The mosquito don’t try to fight against the raindrop.  Instead, they allow themselves to be pushed down inside of the raindrop and then work themselves out of it before the raindrop hits the ground. ## 8. Mosquitoes Were the Inspiration for Inventions Many inventors turn to nature for inspiration.  One recent invention inspired by mosquitoes is the microneedle – a hypodermic needle which allows for near painless injections or blood withdrawals.   The inventors studied the shape of mosquitoes’ proboscis (the blood sucker). Unlike standard hypodermic needles which have a smooth shape, the mosquito proboscis is jagged on the outside. This jagged shape causes less contact with the nerves and skin tissue.  After the jagged outer part has entered the skin, the mosquito then inserts a smooth tube to do the actual blood sucking. ## 9. Mosquitoes Court Lovers with a Symphony Mosquitoes have poor vision, so how do they find a mate?  They do it with the sound of their buzzing wings.  When a male is looking for a lover, he starts fluctuating his wing speed produce high-pitched buzzes.  If a female is nearby, she will adjust her wing speed to match the male’s speed.  What results is a synchronized duet. Interestingly, two males are not able to match their wing speeds.  It is the females who are good at making subtle changes.  Thus, two males don’t accidentally come together while looking for a mate. ## 10. New Gene Splicing Technology Could Kill Off All Mosquitoes One of the coolest – and scariest – new technologies to be invented is the CRISPR gene editing tool.  Basically, CRISPR utilizes proteins to remove pieces of DNA and swap them out for a different DNA. We’ve long had the ability to swap out DNA, but the process was mostly manual.  CRISPR technology makes it possible to dramatically change genes very quickly. Scientists are considering using CRISPR to eradicate mosquitoes completely by editing their genes so the females can’t produce eggs.  Not everyone is behind this idea though, especially considering mosquitoes’ role in the food chain. ###### Resources for this article: <https://www.technologyreview.com/s/601213/the-extinction-invention/><http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2006/07/buzz-mosquito-mating><http://animals.about.com/od/c/g/cretaceousperiod.htm><http://insects.about.com/od/flies/a/10-facts-about-mosquitoes.htm><https://www.megacatch.com/mosquito-faqs/mosquito-facts/><http://www.mosquitoreviews.com/mosquitoes-niche-pollinate.html><http://insects.about.com/od/flies/f/what-good-are-mosquitoes.htm> <http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/how-do-mosquitoes-fly-in-the-rain-116626497/><http://newatlas.com/mosquito-inspires-near-painless-hypodermic-needle/18320/> <https://www.technologyreview.com/s/601213/the-extinction-invention/> ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety --- ### [13 Pro Tips to Sleep Warmer in Your Sleeping Bag (Regardless of Rating)](https://momgoescamping.com/warmer-sleeping-bag/) **Published:** February 1, 2017 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Temperatures can drop drastically at night while camping.  In the mountains, it’s not uncommon for the weather to suddenly change and get much colder than forecast – like that time it hit *freezing* temperatures while I was camping with my daughter in *July*. Ideally, you should have a sleeping bag with a comfort rating that is at least 10F higher than what you expect the temperatures will be at night.  But warm sleeping bags are either expensive or heavy. If you don’t want to invest in a new sleeping bag for “just in case” it gets really cold, don’t worry.  Here are some tips for sleeping warmer in your sleeping bag even if it isn’t rated for cold temperatures. ## 1. Get a Better Sleeping Pad If you know that you will be camping in cold weather, invest in warm sleeping gear.  Your sleeping bag is only one part of this equation.  You will need a damn good sleeping pad if you want to stay warm. Sleeping pads act as an insulating barrier against the ground so it doesn’t (literally) suck the heat out of your body.  You can have a super-warm 4-season sleeping bag but will still be cold if your sleeping pad sucks. Good sleeping pads will list their R-value.  This is a measure of how much insulation they provide.  As a general rule, you will want a sleeping pad with an R-value of *at least* 2 or 3. One of the best, lightweight sleeping pads is the [Therm-a-Rest NeoAir Lite](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dneoair%26pagesize%3D90).  It is pricy  (see these [cheaper alternatives](https://momgoescamping.com/thermarest-neoair-xlite-alternatives/)). Note it’s cheaper to buy a warmer sleeping pad than a new sleeping bag. A good sleeping pad also gives you more warmth per weight, so it can be used on multiple trips whereas a warm sleeping bag is only suitable for cold-weather camping. **\*Check out [REI Outlet](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Frei-garage%2Fc%2Fsleeping-pads%3Fr%3Dc%26origin%3Dweb%26queryRule%3Doutlet-only%26ir%3Dcategory%253Asleeping-pads%26outlet%3Dtrue) for discounts on last-year’s sleeping pads.** ### **Tips:**  - **Pad R-value is accumulative:** That means you can put two sleeping pads on top of each other.  Pads with R-values of 1.5 and 2 will give you an R-value of 3.5, which is pretty warm. - **Don’t use inflatable mattresses:** While comfy, these act as heat sinks and will make you cold.  Get a self-inflating sleeping pad designed for camping instead. - **A closed-cell foam pad + inflatable pad:** For *very* cold weather (like camping on snow), this is the expert-recommended setup. There is conflicting advice as to which pad should go on the bottom. ![sleep setup for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/inside-of-tent.jpg "inside of tent - Mom Goes Camping")These green foam pads only have an R value of about 12 and are NOT very warm ## 2. Choose the Right Ground for Your Campsite The R-value of a sleeping pad insulates you from the ground.  But have you heard of [U-Value](http://www.logcabinhub.com/insulate-your-log-cabin/)? U-value is the measure of heat loss through a material.  The harder and denser something is, the higher its U-value will be. To stay warm, you want to sleep on something with a low U-value. Even if you plan on getting a tent heater for your tent, you still need to keep U-value in mind when setting up camp Look for leafy or grassy areas (But don’t pitch the tent in high grasses, unless you want to be woken by snakes under your feet!). If it is particularly cold, I like to pile up dead leaves or pine needles and pitch the tent on top of them.  The layer prevents the ground from sucking the heat out of you and also makes it more comfortable to sleep. It takes only an extra 15 minutes to do and will help you sleep a lot warmer. ![It may be a beautiful place to sleep, but that rock is going to suck the body heat from them! I'd layer some leaves underneath.](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/no-u-value.jpg "no u value - Mom Goes Camping")It may be a beautiful place to sleep but that rock is going to suck the body heat from them ## 3. Make Sure You Stay On Your Pad If you roll or slide off your sleeping pad, it won’t be able to do its job of keeping you warm.  There are a few solutions to ensure you stay on your pad: - **Put your sleeping pad inside your bag.**  The pad also has the effect of filing up empty space in the bag, so you trap more heat. Though whether this is warmer [is debatable](https://www.reddit.com/r/backpacking/comments/550exd/sleeping_pad_inside_sleeping_bag/)… - **Get a sleeping bag with a pad sleeve.** This is a really cool feature that lets you attach the pad to the bag.  See this [list of sleeping bags with pad sleeves](https://momgoescamping.com/sleeping-bags-pad-sleeves/). ## 4. Put an Emergency Blanket Under Your Sleeping Pad I haven’t tried this trick myself, but a lot of people in my online backpacking group swear by it.  Emergency blankets don’t have much of an R-value but they do [work by reflecting heat back at you](http://adventure.howstuffworks.com/survival/gear/space-blanket.htm) so less heat is lost. It might not give you much warmth, but it weighs and costs less than an extra sleeping pad! Plus, it could save your life in an emergency (see [what items you should always bring hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-packing-list/)). **Tip:** If you don’t have an emergency blanket, you can use the windshield protector from your car.  It acts like an emergency blanket to reflect some heat back towards you. (Put the shiny side upwards underneath you).  Obviously this only works if you’re camping near your car, but the moral is to use whatever you’ve got. ![This heavy duty space blanket reflects heat up towards the body.](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/space-blanket-sleeping-setup.jpg "space blanket sleeping setup - Mom Goes Camping")This heavy duty space blanket reflects heat up towards the body ## 5. Use a Sleeping Bag Liner If you are cold while camping, then you probably need a sleeping bag which is better rated for the cold. A new sleeping bag can be expensive though.  If you don’t feel like buying a new sleeping bag, consider a sleeping bag liner instead.  **A good sleeping bag liner can add 10+ degrees of rating to your bag**. How does it work? You just put the liner inside your sleeping bag.  Then put your body into the liner. 🙂 Sleeping bag liners also help your bag stay clean.  They are also useful as travel linens, in case you have to sleep in a questionable hostel bed. **Also read:** [Can you combine two sleeping bags to make one warmer bag?](https://momgoescamping.com/combining-two-sleeping-bags/) ![Tough Outdoors Sleeping Bag Liner](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/tough-outdoors-sleeping-bag-liner.jpg "tough outdoors sleeping bag liner - Mom Goes Camping")This silk sleeping bag by Tough Outdoors adds 5 10 degrees F to your sleeping bag It is an affordable option You can [buy it here](https://amzn.to/2EFxbnS) ## 6. Spread Your Pack and Clothes Underneath You Is your sleeping pad inadequate and you forgot to pile leaves or pine needles under your tent?  If the ground is sucking the heat out of you, spread all your clothes and backpack under you.  This adds another protective layer from the ground and also makes it more comfy for sleeping. ## 7. Stuff Your Clothes into Your Sleeping Bag Fill empty space in your sleeping bag with clothes or even your gear.  It will be warmer for the same reason that mummy bags are warmer: less empty space to heat. ## 8. Don’t Sleep Naked I’m not sure where the [myth that it’s warmer to sleep naked](https://momgoescamping.com/naked-sleeping-bag-warmer/) came from, but it is false. The more layers you wear, the warmer you will be. However, this is all contingent on wearing the clothes correctly: - **Don’t bundle your core**.  Your core is your body’s furnace. If you overdo it with layers here, you will isolate the core from the rest of your body.  Your core will start to sweat while your hands and feet freeze. - **Start with your extremities.** Your hands and feet get cold the fastest. Put extra socks and gloves on *before* you go to sleep so you don’t wake up with frozen toes in the middle of the night. - **Don’t sweat.** Wearing too many clothes will also make you sweat at night, which in turn gets you wet and makes it harder for your body to regulate temperature.  You’ll alternate between freezing and sweating. ## 9. Use the Hot Water Bottle Trick You’ve got to be careful with this one.  The last thing you want on a cold night is to spill water in your sleeping bag! Heat up some water and pour it into your water bottle.  Close the water bottle tightly and then put it inside of a sock. The sock insulates the bottle so it stays warm longer (or check out [these water bottle insulators](https://momgoescamping.com/water-bottles-insulators-winter/)).  The sock will also catch any small leaks from the bottle. You can also throw a hand warmer down into your sleeping bag to help heat up your toes. ## 10. Snuggle with Your Camping Buddy On one trip where I [got sick while camping](https://momgoescamping.com/get-sick-camping/) and was freezing my butt off that night, I grabbed my daughter and stuffed her (still inside her sleeping bag) inside my sleeping bag. There wasn’t much room, but I did warm up quickly.  It was like my own little space heater.   Isabel was a bit pissed that I trapped her though. 😀 ## 11. Put Your Feet in Your Pack If just your feet are getting cold (maybe you brought a half-length sleeping pad or are too tall for your pad), then empty your backpack.  Get into your sleeping bag and then stick your feet into the empty backpack.  The backpack will insulate your feet a bit so they stay warmer. This trick only works if your backpack is dry.  Don’t put your feet in a wet pack! On another positive note, doing this will also protect your sleeping bag from condensation. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/sleeping-bag-in-backpack-cold-weather-camping.jpg "put sleeping bag feet into backpack to stay warm - Mom Goes Camping")My feet tucked into my pack on a freezing night ## 12.  Warm Up *Before* You Get In the Sleeping Bag It is easier to stay warm inside your sleeping bag than get warm.  To get warm… - **Go pee 20 minutes before getting in your sleeping bag.** Then go pee again before you crawl in. Nothing sucks more than leaving your warm sleeping bag to pee in the middle of the frosty night! - **Run around before getting in your sleeping bag.** Do exercises or jump around.  This will warm you up and your sleeping setup will trap the heat. - **Eat something fatty and sugary.** A lot of calories go to keeping us warm. Give your body fuel right before going to bed so it can produce enough heat for the cold night ahead. Some chunks of dark chocolate and pecans should do the trick! ![When it's cold, your body needs a lot of calories!](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/extra-calories-when-cold-camping.jpg "extra calories when cold camping - Mom Goes Camping")When its cold your body needs a lot of calories ## 13. Bring Pajamas The obvious benefit of sleeping in pajamas is that you won’t have to smell the stinky clothes you hiked in all day. 🙂  But pajamas also help you stay warmer in your sleeping bag. The first reason is because your daytime clothes are probably wet (even if you can’t feel the wetness, there is moisture there from sweat!).  Any amount of wetness will cause evaporative heat loss, so you will get cold. Another reason for PJs is that dirty clothes don’t breathe as well so you will feel colder.   Dry, clean pajamas will keep you much warmer — especially if they are made of a material like Merino wool. (Also read: [Is Merino wool worth it?](https://momgoescamping.com/is-merino-wool-worth-it/)) **Still worried that you’ll freeze your butt off at night while camping? Read this post about [How Cold Is Too Cold for Tent Camping? ](https://momgoescamping.com/how-cold-is-too-cold-for-tent-camping)** --- **Guess what? I’ve just written an eBook with over 50 dehydrator trail recipes, plus loads of info about backpacking meal planning.  [Learn more here](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/).** ![camping meals](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/gallery-min.jpg "gallery-min - Mom Goes Camping")These are the types of meals Im eating when I backpack They pack in over 130 calories per ounce dry weight Just add water to rehydrate![dehydrated backpacking food](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/backpacking-meals.jpg "backpacking meals - Mom Goes Camping")Heres what the meals look like dry and packed These ones have 13700 calories and only weigh 69lbs dry Just add water to rehydrate **Ready to step up your trail food? [Buy my eBook here](https://gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck/). 🙂** --- Image credits: “newmexico 128 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/p\_d\_gibson/265237251/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Paul David Gibson](https://www.flickr.com/people/p_d_gibson/)“[Photo](https://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelrperry/6975109829/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Michael R Perry](https://www.flickr.com/people/michaelrperry/)“[Emily warming up in the tent](https://www.flickr.com/photos/16725630@N00/2711611425/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Matt-Zimmerman](https://www.flickr.com/people/16725630@N00/)“[these days](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nathmart/14608272269/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [nathmart](https://www.flickr.com/people/nathmart/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety **Tags:** cold, sleeping bag, winter --- ### [How to Sleep in a Car (and Get a Lot of Rest)](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-sleep-in-car/) **Published:** July 25, 2018 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Times may come when you have to spend a night in your car. Like when you’ve been driving for a long time, get tired, and there aren’t any motels around (or you just don’t want to pay for one). Or when want to be the first at a certain festival and you just have to sleep a night in your car to be there on time… Regardless of the reason, you need to know how to turn your 4-wheeled vehicle in a 4-wheeled bed! ## Car Sleeping Is Not as Easy as You’d Think Whether it’s just a night or multiple nights, you should know how to prepare yourself for it because it’s not as easy as you might think. You can’t just lock the doors and shut down. Nope, sir! There are plenty of things, some of which even vital, you have to do before closing your eyes and dreaming of the following day. Therefore, let’s prepare your bed sheets and tell you, step by step, how to properly sleep in a car and get lots of rest as well. ## Safety First ### 1. Carbon Monoxide Poisoning in Cars The most important thing you must do before sleeping safe and sound is to turn off your engine. No matter how cold or how warm it is, you can’t keep the car’s engine open because there’s the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning, which is fatal. You can get as comfy as you want – but keep the engine off, because, in this case, a bit less comfy means a lot more alive… ### 2. Security Obviously, all doors must be shut. The same goes for windows and the sunroof. But you might want to let one of them a bit cracked, in order to prevent the sauna effect that might occur overnight. In *really* cold weather, you actually should [keep a window a bit open](https://www.primalsurvivor.net/winter-car-survival-kits/).  It seems counterintuitive, but leaving a window open will prevent condensation. The condensation will cause you to get wet, which in turn will make you colder. ### 3. Legalities In terms of parking, you should park in an area that allows you to do so. You don’t want any legal problems just for trying to get some sleep. Stores, rest stops and sometimes churches have parking lots that are usually free, and you can use them safely. You have to try and find a safe environment to park your car in. If you have trouble finding one, some nifty apps like [AllStays](https://www.allstays.com/) and [Hipcamp](https://www.hipcamp.com/) can provide you with locations that allow you to park legally. ## Crafting Your Bed ### Step 1: Gathering Materials If you are a regular vehicle sleeper, you are already prepared for this night with a sleeping bag, blankets and pillows.  There is even a cool inflatable mattress for cars that you can get. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/car-mattress.jpg "car mattress - Mom Goes Camping")*This inflatable car mattress only costs about $30 You can [get it here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08229RFX2/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08229RFX2&linkId=cf19bc5c33cade5931e095f56037c418)* But, if you are a one-timer and find yourself with little to no resources, you have to craft the bed. First of all, you’ll have to gather any type of material that can be used as a part of the bed. You can use towels for the mattress, even extra clothes you might have in your car or anything that’s soft enough for you to rest on. You’ll want to use these materials to stuff pressure points. For example, if you are sleeping in the front seat, use towels to fill the area under your hips.  You’ll also want to use them to prop your head/neck into a better position. ### Step 2: Choose Your Spot This is dependent on your car size. If you have a small car, you can recline the front seat as much as possible and that’s pretty much it. It’s not very comfortable, but if you do your bedding properly, add some extra towels in the key points, you’ll sleep pretty well and wake up almost fully charged. If you own a medium car there should be enough space for you to sleep in the backseat. This will provide you with the special skill called *almost fully stretched.* It is best if you are a curling sleeper as this will be the position morning will find you in. But, again, if it is properly set up, it will provide you with enough comfort for a good sleep. For larger cars, you can basically recline the front seats and get something very close to a double-sized bed. If you use the backseats, your feet can easily fit in the trunk and you’ll be fully stretched and able to sleep in any position you want. ![sleeping in backseat of car](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/7297706532_28bf03bca9_z.jpg "7297706532_28bf03bca9_z - Mom Goes Camping")*Sticking your feet in the trunk is a good way to fully stretch out in your car*![sleeping in a car trunk](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/9784872051_b3214712ec_z.jpg "9784872051_b3214712ec_z - Mom Goes Camping")*You might have to be creative when choosing where to sleep* ## Cover Windows To prevent any jump scares caused by any beggars that might approach your car – or just to prevent being woken up early in the morning by the sun — you can use any remaining clothes to cover up the windows. This adds to your privacy as well as to your security because being seen sleeping in a car might get you into some trouble. Oh, by the way, remember to take your shoes off if you already didn’t until you’ve reached this step! Also make sure to wear loose clothes for the comfiest sleep of your life – that is, in a vehicle. ## Keep Supplies Nearby Make sure you have everything you need within reach.  You don’t want to wake up in the middle of the night and have to search for supplies. You’ll need a bottle of water nearby. Your smartphone, flashlight, and keys too. Now all you have to do at the end of the day on four wheels is to just lay back – as much as you can – sleep tight and rest well! **![cal mountain leon](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Callum.jpg "Callum - Mom Goes Camping")Author Bio:** Cal Bailey is the guy behind Mountain Leon – a travel blog he started after two years on backpacking around the world. --- Image credits: “[Sleeping in the Crown Vic](https://www.flickr.com/photos/bradjward/9784872051/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [bradjward](https://www.flickr.com/people/bradjward/) “[Car camping](https://www.flickr.com/photos/foreverdigital/7297706532/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [foreverdigital](https://www.flickr.com/people/foreverdigital/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety --- ### [Best First Aid Kits for Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/best-first-aid-kits-for-camping/) **Published:** February 5, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Camping often means you are hours away from the nearest hospital.  You are also more likely to get sprains, knife or ax wounds, burns, and hypothermia when outdoors.  Even a minor ailment like [getting sick](https://momgoescamping.com/get-sick-camping/) can leave you dangerously dehydrated if you aren’t prepared.  For these reasons, I take my camping first aid kit very seriously. Most first aid kits are not designed for camping and often have critical items missing. For example, you won’t find electrolyte packets for dehydration or moleskin for blisters in most first aid kits.  The first aid kits chosen here are specifically made for camping and outdoors and are more complete. **Not sure how to use items in a first aid kit? You need my Printable Camping Cheat Sheets** [![camping cheat sheets](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/interior-pages-1024x356.jpg "interior pages - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/interior-pages.jpg) The guide contains 42 pages of illustrated information, including wilderness first aid, campfire cooking, tarp shelters, and more. **[Get It Here ](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets/)** ## Best First Aid Kits for Camping \*Want to see how these camping first aid kits compare? [This table](https://momgoescamping.com/comparison-of-first-aid-kits-converted/) has a list of what’s included in each kit. ### 1. Adventure Medical Kits Mountain Mountaineer Medical Kit ![Adventure Medical Kits Mountaineer](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/mountaineer-copy.jpg "mountaineer copy - Mom Goes Camping") Adventure Medical Kits makes really high-quality, complete (emphasis on complete!) first aid kits for camping, backpacking, and outdoor sports.  Their kits contain items you won’t find in virtually any other kit, like QuikClot, tourniquets, and C-splints.  The products are also high-quality and reliable. This kit is more geared towards mountaineering groups.  However, it would also work well as a camping first aid kit to keep in your car. Compared to the other camping first aid kits reviewed here, the Mountaineering kit contains many more items.  This includes high-end items like: - SWAT tourniquet - C-splint - QuikClot hemostatic pads - Digital thermometer - Sterile dressings - Temporary tooth filling It also includes everyday items you might need, like antihistamines, antacids, pain killers, flu medicine, and electrolytes.  You could buy these yourself, but it’s nice they are already included.  There are a few items missing (like probiotics, activated charcoal, and a Mylar blanket), but no first aid kit is ever perfect. The first aid kit is a bit pricy.  However, it actually does come out to be a good deal if you calculate the cost of each item individually.  Just the tourniquet would cost you around $15. The two QuikClot bandages would be another $20…. I also really like the way the bag is organized. When you unzip the kit, there are several pockets which can be folded out.  Each pocket contains items for a specific type of injury or ailment. ![Adventure Medical Kits Mountain Series Mountaineer Medical Kit](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Adventure-Medical-Kits-Mountain-Series-Mountaineer-Medical-Kit-REI-Co-op-copy.jpg "Adventure Medical Kits Mountain Series Mountaineer Medical Kit - Mom Goes Camping") There’s also a mini detachable first aid kit.  This is great for keeping your hiking first aid items.  Just grab the mini kit when you go on a day trip. **Quick Info:** - **Piece Count: 218** - **Size: 10.5″ x 6.5″ x 7.5″** - **Weight: 3.1lbs** - [**Buy here on Amazon**](https://amzn.to/2Ut64oK) --- ### 2. Adventure Medical Kits Sportsman Series 400 First Aid Kit ![Adventure Medical Kits Sportsman 400](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/sportsman-400.jpg "sportsman 400 - Mom Goes Camping") Also made by Adventure Medical Kits, the Sportsman Series 400 first aid kit is more affordable than the Mountaineer kit above.  It doesn’t have as many pain meds.  Nor are there any electrolytes, antacids, antihistamines, or some other meds.  However, the kit still contains everything you’d need for dealing with minor and major ailments while camping – including high-end items like a SWAT tourniquet, C-splint, and hemostatic dressings. The bag itself is also great; there are plenty of pockets for keeping items organized.  A mini trauma kit can be removed and taken with you on hikes or day trips.  I still like the Mountaineer kit better, but that’s my personal preference and this kit costs roughly $75 less. ![Adventure Medical Kits Sportsman 400](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/sportsman-400-adventure-medical-kits.jpg "sportsman 400 adventure medical kits - Mom Goes Camping") **Quick Info:** - **Size:** **11″ x 8″ x 3″** - **Weight: 2.5lbs** - **Buy it [here on Amazon](https://amzn.to/3bfUgMf)** --- ### 3. Advanced MyMedic MyFAK First Aid Kit ![MyMedic MyFAK First Aid Kit](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/MyMedic-MyFAK-First-Aid-Kit-Advanced-REI-Co-op-copy.jpg "MyMedic MyFAK First Aid Kit - Mom Goes Camping") For a small pouch, this first aid kit has a surprising amount of items meant to save your life in really crappy scenarios.  Admittedly, some of these items are going to be completely pointless unless you’ve had advanced medical training. For example, there are suturing supplies in the kit.  I personally would never stitch up someone’s wound – I’d get some butterfly closures on it and head to the hospital.  Likewise, I wouldn’t know what to do with the Hyfin Vent chest seal. ![MyMedic MyFAK First Aid Kit](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/mymedic-myfak-copy.jpg "mymedic myfak copy - Mom Goes Camping") Thus, I only recommend this first aid kit for medical professionals.   If this applies to you, then you’ll appreciate the kit is well-organized and can be attached to the back of a vehicle headrest. **Quick Info:** - **Piece Count: 101** - **Size: 7.75 x 6.75 x 4 inches** - **Weight: 3lbs 3oz** - **Buy it [here at Amazon](https://amzn.to/3KcoP8l)** --- ### 4. Surviveware Large First Aid Kit ![surviveware large kit packed](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/surviveware-large-kit-packed.jpg "surviveware large kit packed - Mom Goes Camping") The Surviveware first aid kit comes in a MOLLE pouch which can also be attached to the back of a vehicle’s headrest.  I like that there is a mini first aid kit within the pouch; take this smaller kit with you when you go hiking or on day trips. The first aid kit contains 200 items plus another 50 pieces in the mini kit.  However, don’t get drawn in by the piece count. Most of these items are bandages, antiseptic wipes, and other cheap items.  The kit is missing a lot of the higher-end items you need in a camping first aid kit.  There’s no tourniquet, C-splint or Sam splint, hemostatic pads, or medications.  You’ll need to add these on your own. Luckily, there’s still plenty of space in the bag for all of these must-have items. ![Surviveware first aid kit large contents](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/surviveware-large.jpg "surviveware large - Mom Goes Camping") Even though the kit is missing a lot of essentials, it is still one of the best first aid kits out there.  The bag has lots of organizing pockets, the items which are included are good quality, and the price isn’t too high. **Quick Info:** - **Piece Count: 250** - **Size: 12 x 8 x 6 inches** - **Weight: 3.25lbs** - **Buy it [here on Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CQ8JVC7/?tag=momcampnew-20&ref_=maas_adg_82A9C0AAB5F3A5925015AF4E2030E4D4_afap_abs&tag=meastus-20&ref=mm_d3380136-534c-438a-b052-61968f54e587)** --- ### 5. DIY Camping First Aid Kit [![diy first aid kit](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/IMG_6206-e1580910583450.jpg "IMG_6206 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/IMG_6206-e1580910583450.jpg) While the first aid kits listed above are pretty damn good, none of them are complete.  Whether it’s something small like tweezers or something major like a tourniquet, **every first aid kit is missing something.** Instead of paying for one of these pre-made kits, you could instead build your own kit up from scratch.  It usually ends up being a bit more pricy this way since you  have to buy everything individually. You’ll still need a bag for organizing the first aid items.  I like [this one](https://amzn.to/37W7lsd). But, if you already have a lot of first aid items at home, the DIY approach means you don’t waste money on duplicates. **Here is what I put in [my camping first aid kit (printable list)](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-first-aid-checklist/). I also have this [lightweight version for hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-first-aid-kit-checklist/).** ## How to Choose a First Aid Kit for Camping There are hundreds of camping first aid kits, and they range from a mere $15 to over $400.  What’s the difference and which one do you really need?  Here are some tips for helping you get the right first aid kit for outdoor adventures. ### Organization Matters If you just need a band-aid or moleskin for a blister, then it’s not a big deal how you organized your kit.  But what if your spouse severs an artery while chopping wood for the campfire?  You would need to find the QuikClot trauma pad and *fast*. For this reason, it’s really important you keep your first aid items organized in a way which makes it easy to find them.  Staying organized also makes it easier to see which first aid items need to be restocked. Make sure the first aid kit you choose has lots of different pockets and compartments. Bonus if they have see-through windows! ### Beware of Cheap First Aid Kits  I once made the mistake of buying a $20 first aid kit.  It contained a lot of the items I needed, but the items were complete crap.  The medical tape, for example, wouldn’t stick to my skin.  It would peel off after a few minutes.  The same applied to the band-aids in the kit.   The only reason to get a cheap first aid kit IMO is for the bag.  Then dump out the useless contents and fill it with your own. ### Don’t Get Swayed by Piece Count A 200-piece first aid kit for just $19???  Yes, there’s a reason it sounds too good to be true.  Most of those pieces are probably cheap items (I actually saw one first aid kit which contained 20 tongue depressors and 50 cotton swabs towards its count!).  For this reason, I haven’t listed the piece count of my picks for the best camping first aid kits. ### Look for High-End Items in the Kit Instead of focusing on piece count, pay attention to what high-end items are included in the first aid kit. This is where you will get the most value.   Some examples of these items are: - C-splint or Sam splint - SWAT or CAT tourniquet - QuikClot and other hemostatic dressings - Butterfly bandages - Trauma pads - Tooth filling ### Brand Names Matter If you are just going to buy a cheap first aid kit for the pouch and then fill it with your own items, then brand name doesn’t matter much.  However, if you want to get a complete kit, choose a reputable brand name.   You are relying on these supplies to save your life! You don’t want to have the tourniquet break because it was a cheap knockoff (yes, this [actually happens](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/counterfeit-tourniquets-could-cause-catastrophic-consequences/)) or have medical tape unstick. ### Choose a Red First Aid Kit Get a red bag.  It might seem inconsequential, but it really helps to have a red first aid kit bag.  Red is the international color for first aid.  If you get injured and someone else needs to grab your first aid kit, they will be more likely to find it quickly if it’s red. ### Look for Detachable Mini Kits The first aid kits listed here are pretty damn complete.  That means they are fairly bulky and heavy.  While this is fine for car camping, the kits will be too large to take on day hikes or backpacking trips. The top first aid brands realize this is an issue so include detachable mini pouches in the kits.  The pouch contains the most essential items you might need while on a day trip.  Seriously – don’t forget a first aid kit even for “just a short hike.”  You never know when you will succumb to a serious fall, break a bone, or worse. ### Learn First Aid! It’s pointless to carry around a complete first aid kit if you don’t know how to use the items in it.  I highly suggest you take a wilderness first aid kit and learn life-saving skills like how to stop bleeding, how to splint a broken bone, and how to treat burns. If you can’t take a class, then at least read [this book](https://amzn.to/389seQA) about wilderness first aid. It pays to be prepared! **Did you get a pre-made first aid kit or build your own? Let us know in the comments section below.** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** first aid, first aid kits --- ### [16 Ultralight Backpacking Tips for Beginners](https://momgoescamping.com/ultralight-backpacking-tips/) **Published:** February 17, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** When I started backpacking as a kid, it was common for backpackers to carry around 40 or even 50lbs worth of gear on their backs.  Then the ultralight backpacking revolution began in the early 90s.  Manufacturers began making better quality, lighter gear.  Now, ultralight backpacking has become an obsession with hikers trying to get their base weight down lower and lower. ## What Weight Is Considered Ultralight Backpacking? Ultralight backpacking means your base weight (without food or water) is below 12lbs, though some UL backpackers now say 10lbs is the upper limit.  By contrast, lightweight backpacking is a base weight under 20lbs.  Normal backpacking is a base weight of 20 to 30lbs. **Here’s how it breaks down.** \[table id=22 /\] ([Source](https://pmags.com/a-sorta-history-of-modern-ultralight-backpacking)) ## Ultralight Backpacking Tips for Beginners If your current base weight is in the 20-30lb range, it might seem impossible to get it down to under 12lbs.  However, you don’t necessarily even need to spend a lot of money on UL backpacking gear.  Here are 16 ultralight backpacking tips for beginners. ### 1. Get a Digital Kitchen Scale My cheap digital scale was one of the best things I bought for backpacking.  It allowed me to weigh gear and supplies.  Only then did I get a true sense of what gear was weighing me down.   The scale also made it a lot easier to weigh dry foods like pasta so I got portions correct. You might even want to go the extra step of weighing *everything* in your pack and writing it in a spreadsheet.  This will give you a better idea of which items are really weighing you down. ![first aid kit packed and weighed](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/first-aid-kit-packed-and-weighed.jpg "first aid kit packed and weighed - Mom Goes Camping") ### 2. Don’t Be Penny Wise but Pound Foolish In many cases, cheap backpacking gear is just as good as the expensive version.  Like [my ridiculously cheap backpacking pot](https://momgoescamping.com/best-camping-pots-problem-camping-cooksets/) which only cost about $5.  Or my [DIY UL windscreen for my canister stove](https://momgoescamping.com/diy-windscreen-canister-stove/) which cost about $1 to make. But there are times when cheap gear is not worth it.  Cheap sleeping bags may wear out after a season or two.  Cheap tents have poles will snap in the slightest wind. Cheap batteries drain quickly… It’s better to buy quality gear which will last you years of trips.  So think twice before trying to save a few bucks by buying cheap ultralight gear. ### 3. Make a Food Plan It’s really easy to weigh your backpack down with too much food, especially if you aren’t calculating portions or calories. I highly recommend making a spreadsheet with exactly what you will eat on your backpacking trip each day and calorie counts. Below is a sample backpacking food plan.  It shows 3,400 calories of food per day (almost all of which was dehydrated), averaging out to 27.8oz (1.7lbs) per day. Again, having a digital scale makes it easier to calculate how much food to bring, especially for things like pasta. ![4 day backpacking food spreadsheet](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/4-day-backpacking-food-spreadsheet-copy.jpg "4 day backpacking food spreadsheet copy - Mom Goes Camping") **Read:** - **[How Much Food to Bring Backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/how-much-food-bring-backpacking-calculator/)** - **[32 Calorie-Dense Foods for Backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/calorie-dense-healthy-backpacking-foods/)** ### 4. Embrace the Dehydrator ![vegan backpacking risotto](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/barley-walnut-risotto.jpg "barley walnut risotto - Mom Goes Camping")*Dehydrated walnut barley risotto UL at 172 caloriesoz* As a general rule, all food you bring backpacking should have 120 calories per ounce.  This will give you 3,500 calories in 1.8lbs.  I was able to get my backpacking food even lighter by dehydrating my own meals. It took some trial and error, but I was able to make super-light, ultra-healthy meals.  For example, my walnut-barley risotto dehydrated down to 172 calories per ounce! My creamy cashew tomato sauce for pasta? It has a dry weight of 163 calories per ounce! Dehydrated meals can be prepared by soaking in water for around 20 minutes (known as *cold soaking).*  This means I could leave my stove at home and save even more weight.  I actually still bring a stove because I like hot meals, but am less worried about running out of fuel or cooking in the rain since cold-soaking is an option. **\*I wrote an ebook with ultralight dehydrator recipes for backpacking.  The book also has loads of info on how to plan backpacking meals. You can [get it here](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck/50off).  I’ll even give you 50% off. 🙂**[![backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/backpacking-dehydrator-recipes-ebook.jpg "backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook - Mom Goes Camping")**Get my book here for 50%**](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmetasheck50off) ### 5.  Calculate Dollars Per Ounce Saved It’s no secret that ultralight backpacking gear is expensive.  Is it really worth it to pay extra just to shed a few ounces from your base weight? Here’s one trick to see if the extra cost is worth it: *calculate price per ounce saved.* **For example, here are two sleeping bags rated for 20F.** - **REI Co-Op Zephyr 20:** Weighs 36oz and currently costs $159 . - **Therm-a-Rest Hyperion Down Sleeping Bag**: Weighs 20oz and currently costs $409 . The Hyperion bag costs $250 more but weighs 16oz less.  That means I’d be paying $15.6 per ounce saved. **As a general rule, $20 per ounce saved is a good value for UL gear.** If you go backpacking very frequently, then you might be willing to pay even more per ounce of weight saved. ### 6. Focus on the Big Three In terms of going ultralight, there are three items which will really count towards your base weight: tent, sleeping bag, and sleeping pad. If you go backpacking frequently, then it’s worth it to spend money on ultralight versions of these items. \*Note most backpackers consider your pack and not sleeping pad to be the #3 item.  I’ll explain why I disagree next. #### Tent: ![ultralight tent naturehike cloudup 2 review](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/ultralight-tent-naturehike-cloudup-2.jpg "ultralight tent naturehike cloudup 2 - Mom Goes Camping")*My UL tent The Naturehike CloudUp 2* Aim for under 2lbs for a 1-person tent or 3lbs for a 2-person tent.  If you are on a budget, check out these [cheap ultralight tents](https://momgoescamping.com/cheap-ultralight-tents/).  I have the [Naturehike CloudUp 2](https://momgoescamping.com/naturehike-cloudup-2-review/) and, while it’s far from perfect, I’m very happy with it. #### Sleeping Bag: How much does an ultralight sleeping bag weigh?  Any bag under 2lbs is generally considered to be ultralight. Note that a lot of sleeping bags which are under 2lbs are not suitable for cold weather.  This is fine: a lot of people make the mistake of buying a sleeping bag rated for low temperatures even though they only go backpacking in summer. What if you plan on going backpacking in cold weather too?  Your best option is to get two bags.  Then you won’t drag the overkill bag on warm trips.  If you can only afford one sleeping bag, then be prepared to pay for a good UL sleeping bag rated for colder weather. **Tip:** Check out for cheap UL sleeping bags.  You can often find sleeping bags at half the price. #### Sleeping Pad Sleeping bags get a lot of attention, but your pad is just as important. Aside from giving you comfort, the pad is what protects your body from heat loss through the ground.  If you don’t have a good sleeping pad, then you are wasting your money on an UL sleeping bag. Compared to UL sleeping bags, UL pads tend to be a lot cheaper.  You can use a warmer pad and colder sleeping bag.  So, if you can’t afford a good ultralight sleeping bag now, it makes more sense to get a good pad.  Plus, unlike sleeping bags which are only suitable for certain temperature ranges, a sleeping pad can be used for 3 seasons.  In winter, you can just add another pad on top of it for extra insulation. **What R-value should you get?** In general, an R-value of 2.1 will be good in temperatures of 36F, or slightly higher temperatures if you have a colder bag. Aim for an R-value of 2 to 4 for 3-season use. **How much weight can you save by choosing an ultralight sleeping pad?** To give you an idea of how much weight you can save by choosing a better sleeping pad, here are some comparisons. - The has an R-value of 2.3 and weighs just 8.8oz.  It currently costs $194 at REI. - The has an R-value of 2.9, weighs 21oz and costs $80. The Stratus is a lot more affordable. But, for an extra $100, you could have saved 12.2oz.  That’s about $8 per ounce of savings – which is a lot cheaper per ounce than shedding weight from your sleeping bag. ### 7. Don’t Go Too Light with Your Pack Even before you put anything in it, your pack alone can already weigh 6+ lbs. There are now a lot of manufacturers who are making ultralight backpacks which weigh under 2lbs. **However, don’t rush off and get an ultralight pack yet.  As explained [here](https://www.outsideonline.com/2191166/why-you-dont-want-or-need-ultralight-backpack), there are lots of downsides to UL packs:** - **Not designed to hold a lot of weight.** The pack might buckle and collapse under the weight of your gear. - **Weak frame doesn’t distribute weight properly.** A sturdy frame will distribute weight vertically down your back, making a heavy load easier to carry. It’s pointless to save weight if the UL pack is just going to make you feel uncomfortable. - **Hip straps are often dinky**. This means the pack won’t provide support or properly distribute weight around your hips. - **Lack features**. UL backpacks need to keep the number of zippers, compression straps and pockets down to reduce weight. This can make them annoying to use, like when you need to find your first aid kit in your pack or want to stash your jacket outside your pack. **The bottom line?** Aim to find a pack which is around 3lbs.  This is as light as you can go while still getting good support and features.  If you want to go much lighter than this with your pack, first get the weight and size of your other gear down. Then you’ll be able to choose a smaller pack. **\*Osprey and Granite Gear make a lot of great lightweight packs.  .** ### 8. Ask, Do I Really Need It? When packing, spread all of your items in front of you.  Then ask yourself these three questions: 1. Do I really need it? 2. What could happen if I don’t bring it? 3. Is there something I’m already packing which could do the same job? **Here’s an example of how this might go:** - **Deodorant:** Definitely no. It will just attract insects. - **Cell phone:** No, I’m already bringing a separate camera and there won’t be a cell signal anyway. Better to leave it in the car. - **Extra underwear:** I could go commando while waiting for wet underwear to dry. - **GPS:** Not when I know how to read a paper map and am going on well-marked trails. - **Mug:** No, I can just drink coffee out of my pot before I make breakfast in it. - **Big ass survival knife:** No, my small multi-tool knife will do the job. - **Toilet paper:** No, but I definitely want it. - **First aid kit:** Absolutely need it! I added these last examples to remind you not to go crazy.  Some items are worth the weight.  Sure, I *could* use leaves to wipe instead of toilet paper… but I could also end up with a rash on my butt which would make for a miserable trip. And while I rarely need anything from my first aid kit, when I do need it, I *really need it.* I’m not going to save weight on thing which are there to save my life! Here’s what’s in [**my lightweight first aid kit**](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-first-aid-kit-checklist/). ### 9. Multipurpose Gear In regards to the question, “Is there something I’m already packing which could do the same job?”  You’d be surprised how much of your gear is redundant once you think creatively. **Here are some examples of multipurpose backpacking gear.** - **Use pack cover as food bag.** It’s already waterproof and sturdy and works great to hold my food when hanging a bear bag. - **Sleeping bag stuff sack as pillow.** Fill it with clothes and it makes a great pillow. There are even stuff sacks which are lined with fleece specifically for this reason. - **Cook pot as a bowl.** No need to carry a separate bowl when you can eat right out of the pot. - **Tent peg as a bathroom trowel.** Sturdier pegs will do the job. - **Plastic water bottle to back-flush my Sawyer Mini water filter.** I’ve learned that I can use a Smart Water bottle to back-flush so don’t need to bring the syringe. - **Scarf/buff as a towel.** This is a bit gross admittedly, but I’ll forgo a towel on short trips and dry my face with my scarf. - **Extend sleeping pad with pack.** You can save weight by choosing a short sleeping pad and then putting your pack under your calves. ### 10. Choose a Trekking Pole Tent [![mier trekking pole tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/mier-trekking-pole-tent.jpg "mier trekking pole tent - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/mier-trekking-pole-tent.jpg) Trekking pole tents are the epitome of multipurpose gear.  Instead of having their own dedicated tent poles, they are pitched with your trekking poles. There are definitely downsides to trekking pole tents, like being harder to pitch, but they can save you a lot of weight.  Check out these **[best trekking pole tents](https://momgoescamping.com/best-trekking-pole-tents/).** ### 11. Look for Secondhand Backpacking Clothes When I first started backpacking, I definitely wore cotton because it was all I had and I wasn’t ready to invest in expensive lightweight backpacking clothes.  All that cotton definitely weighed my pack down.  Worse, I had to bring extras because cotton is like a friggin’ sponge and takes forever to dry. I’m *still* not ready to throw down a lot of money for backpacking clothes, but have managed to get rid of cotton by finding secondhand backpacking clothes.  You’d be amazed at how many nice softshell jackets, hiking pants, and base layers you can find at thrift stores. I recently got a puffy down jacket for just $10 because the pocket was slightly torn. ### 12. Every Ounce Matters ![shedding ounces from base weight](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/making-gear-ultralight.jpg "making gear ultralight - Mom Goes Camping") An ounce might not seem like much, but it only takes 16 ounces to add up to a pound.  By making small weight savings, you can actually get your pack weight down quite a bit.  Again, using a digital scale to weigh everything allows you to see just how much you’re saving on your base weight. **Here are some ways to shave ounces off your base weight:** - Cut the handle off your toothbrush - Remove tags and labels from gear - Repackage soap and toothpaste into smaller containers - Trim the excess off straps, like your hip belt and sternum strap - Recycle a plastic water bottle instead of bringing a Nalgene or stainless steel bottle - Use lightweight painter’s tarp instead of the manufacturer’s tent footprint - Ditch compression sacks for sleeping bags; use rubber bands or just stuff them into your pack instead - Cut long sleeping pads down to size - Choose the smallest version of everything ### 13. Make a Water Plan Water is incredibly heavy at 2.2lbs (1kg) per liter. It’s not like you can backpack without water though, and getting dehydrated can cause headaches, crankiness, and poor decision making. To keep water weight down, plan your trip around water sources.  You’ll need to realistically calculate how much water you need per mile based on the terrain and temperature. Read this article about **[How to calculate how much water to bring on a hike](https://momgoescamping.com/how-much-water-to-bring-hiking/).** Some UL backpackers recommend carrying water purification drops or tablets since they are the lightest weight.  I personally disagree; chemical purifiers take *30 minutes to 4 HOURS work* and also won’t kill certain pathogens like tapeworm eggs.  Getting diarrhea on a backpacking trip sucks, which is why I use the Sawyer Mini instead.  See this post for the [best water purifiers for backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/best-backpacking-water-filters-purifiers/). ### 14. Get Lightweight Cordage In addition to [hanging a bear bag](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-hang-a-bear-bag/), rope is incredibly useful to have while backpacking.  You can use it to fix a broken bootlace, hang a clothes line, rig a tarp tent if your poles break, rescue someone from a cliff… If you are hanging a bear bag (lots of places now require bear canisters), then you’ll need about 50 feet of rope.  This can actually get really heavy, especially if you choose a rope which is thicker and stronger than you really need.   Just make sure you don’t go too thin with your cordage: thin rope will cut into tree branches or your hands as you try to hoist a food bag. Thin cordage will also tangle easily Here are some ropes and their weights: - **Military 550 paracord (4mm; 550lb strength):** 7.1oz per 100 feet. Available [here on Amazon](https://amzn.to/2uCfeoi). - **Dyneema Ironwire (2mm; 650lb strength):** 3oz per 100 feet . (2.8g per meter). Available [here on Amazon](https://amzn.to/3Lk3OKP). - **Samson Zing-It (2.2mm; 580lb strength ):** 2.6oz per 100 feet. Available [here on Amazon](https://amzn.to/2uDvJ3h). ### 15. Some Things Are Worth the Weight I know a lot of UL backpackers love to boast about how much weight they’ve managed to cut, but some things are really worth the weight. For example, lots of UL backpackers have started cold-soaking food so they don’t have to bring a stove.  But for me, one of my favorite parts of backpacking is waking up in the morning and slowly drinking a hot coffee while enjoying the view. No way am I leaving my stove behind! I actually bring *extra* coffee on backpacking trips so I can offer other hikers a cup.  No one has ever said no to a coffee and carrying the extra weight is very worth it for all the friends I’ve made. ### 16. Don’t Succumb to Snobbery There’s a disturbing trend in the ultralight community: backpackers are getting snobbish. *“You still use a tent instead of a tarp shelter? You aren’t a true ultralight backpacker!”* *“My ultralight layering system is better than yours… I only had to pay $400 for the down jacket…”* *“You mean you don’t have a titanium spoon? You could have saved another 0.0003 ounces…”* There’s no right way to enjoy the outdoors.  And, while I do personally get excited about cutting weight from my pack, it’s not a competition.  Nor does having an ultralight pack make me a better backpacker than anyone else. Don’t let anyone make you feel bad about your base weight or what you bring.  If there’s one thing I want you to remember from this article it’s that: **Going ultralight isn’t about achieving elite status: it’s about making backpacking more enjoyable!  If going UL means you’ll be uncomfortable or unhappy, then it isn’t worth it.** **Any other ultralight backpacking tips for beginners that you would add? Let us know in the comments section below!** --- ###### Some resources for this article: <https://www.thehikinglife.com/2018/10/25-multipurpose-backpacking-gear-items/> <https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/92313/> <http://blog.gossamergear.com/lightweight-backpacking-conundrum> <https://pmags.com/sleepings-pads-a-grounded-view> <https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/91275/> <https://outdoors.stackexchange.com/questions/3035/is-buying-an-expensive-sleeping-bag-better> ###### Image credits: “[Core Gear](https://www.flickr.com/photos/richardmaycr/20180902322/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [azoeart](https://www.flickr.com/people/richardmaycr/) “[Personal Hygiene](https://www.flickr.com/photos/richardmaycr/20189112485/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [azoeart](https://www.flickr.com/people/richardmaycr/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** ultralight --- ### [Best Essential Oils for Ticks (Plus DIY Repellent Recipe)](https://momgoescamping.com/essential-oils-ticks/) **Published:** April 30, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Studies actually have shown that certain essential oils can repel ticks naturally. However, it’s important to be realistic about how effective essential oils are against ticks.  This article will delve into whether essential oils *really* work against ticks, which ones have scientific evidence backing them, safety issues, and how to make your own DIY essential oil tick repellent. ## Do Essential Oils Work Against Ticks? You will hear a lot of people swear by essential oils for preventing ticks naturally.  However, when it comes to scientific studies, there is very little evidence proving whether essential oils repel ticks. Even with the essential oils which have been studied and shown effective, the data can be misleading.  Here’s why. ### **Dosage Amounts** In many studies, the essential oil only repelled ticks when applied in large concentrations.  Using essential oils at these concentrations could be dangerous: just because something is “natural” doesn’t mean its “safe”. ### Wear Off Quickly Another issue is that essential oil repellents wear off quickly.  There aren’t any studies I’m aware of which show how long they last against ticks. However, studies like [this one](https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa011699) found that essential oils provided less than 20 minutes of protection against mosquitoes.  It’s unlikely that they’d last much longer against ticks — especially if you are hiking and sweating a lot. ### Practicality and Cost It’s not very practical to apply large concentrations of essential oils every 20 minutes.  Further, you are going to blow through a lot of product.  The cost will add up quickly.  How much are you willing to pay for a natural tick repellent which isn’t even proven effective? ## There’s a Time and Place for Chemical Repellents I understand the desire to not slather your body with chemicals each time you go outdoors.  However, you’ve got to be realistic:  Essential oil tick repellents simply aren’t going to provide much (if any) protection. Lyme is just one of over a dozen diseases that ticks transmit.  Both my parents have had Lyme disease and I can tell you it is *not* fun.  Even if you don’t get Lyme, watching the spot of a tick bite to see whether a rash or symptoms develop will give you pretty bad anxiety. **Weigh the risks carefully: In many cases, the risk of tick-borne disease is greater than the potential risk of using chemical repellents.** In high-risk areas, I personally find it worth it to use chemical treatments against ticks.  Permethrin is applied to your clothes and not your skin so is safer than DEET and Picardin.  It’s also more effective at repelling and killing ticks than DEET and Picardin. Unfortunately, permethrin treatments won’t do you much good against mosquitoes, but there are some [safe non-toxic sprays against mosquitoes](https://momgoescamping.com/best-baby-safe-mosquito-repellents-camping/) which will take care of them. - **Read about [permethrin clothing](https://momgoescamping.com/permethrin/) here.** - **And here are [natural methods you can use to prevent tick bites](https://momgoescamping.com/natural-tick-prevention/).** ## Essential Oil Tick Repellents and Safety The reason that people want to use essential oil tick repellents is because they sound safer than chemicals like DEET or picardin.  However, just because essential oils are “natural,” it doesn’t always mean they are safe. You especially need to be careful applying essential oil tick repellents to children under 2 years old. Tick repellents made with essential oils can also be very dangerous for pets.  They are actually the number one reason for calls to the ASPC’s Animal Poison Control Center for tick-related concerns.  Dogs and cats can absorb the essential oils through their skin or ingest them after licking their fur.  They then can get problems like gagging, foaming at the mouth, irritated skin, or even liver damage. Cinnamon and clove oil are particularly problematic for pets yet often found in all-natural essential oil tick repellents for cats and dogs.  Cats are even more likely than dogs to have a negative reaction to essential oils.  Be extremely cautious before using one of these products on your pet. Always check with a vet first. ## List of Plant and Essential Oil Tick Repellents The following essential oils actually have been scientifically studied and have shown to repel ticks.  The first three oils are actually found in products on the [EPA’s list registered of skin-applied repellents](https://www.epa.gov/insect-repellents/skin-applied-repellent-ingredients).  To get on the EPA list, the product must be proven safe *and* effective against ticks. This doesn’t mean that other essential oils aren’t effective against ticks; just that they haven’t met the EPA’s standards for efficacy testing yet. - **Citronella** - **Catnip oil** - **Oil of lemon eucalyptus** (not the same as lemon eucalyptus essential oil) - **Geranium and rose geranium oil** - **Oregano oil** - **Clove oil** - **Thyme oil** - **Lily of the valley oil** - **Nootkatone oil** - **Vetiver oil** - **Sandalwood oil** - **Cinnamon oil** Of these essential oils, I’d recommend using **citronella**, **geranium**, **oregano**, and **clove** essential oils on humans.  Catnip is apparently effective but it smells really bad. **The following essential oils are often mentioned as tick repellents but lack evidence to their efficacy:** - **Tea tree oil** - **Cedarwood oil** - **Peppermint** - **Lemongrass** - **Marigold** - **Rosemary oil** - **Juniper oil** (Sources: [1](https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10493-015-9994-0), [2](https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10493-013-9719-1), [3](https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/jf400246a), [4](https://www.parasite-journal.org/articles/parasite/abs/2009/03/parasite2009163p223/parasite2009163p223.html), [5](https://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jf400246a), [6](https://academic.oup.com/ee/article-abstract/43/3/762/404096?redirectedFrom=fulltext), [7](https://academic.oup.com/jee/article-abstract/104/2/659/2199680?redirectedFrom=fulltext), [8](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0304401717301838?via%3Dihub), [9](https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1948-7134.2011.00166.x), [10](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0304401715300029?via%3Dihub), 11, [12](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0944711305000954), [13](https://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/forum/discussion-forums/horse-care/299671-tick-prevention-that-works)) ## DIY Essential Oil Tick Repellent Recipe: Here are instructions on how to make your own essential oil tick repellent.  This DIY repellent should only be used in conjunction with other [tick bite prevention methods](https://momgoescamping.com/natural-tick-prevention/). Do tick checks frequently and carry a [tick removal tool](https://momgoescamping.com/tick-removal-tools-humans/) with you so you can quickly remove ticks before they have time to attach or transmit disease. ### Step 1: Make Your Tick-Repellent Blend You will get better protection against ticks and other pests if you combine several different types of essential oils.  Choose *at least* two of these oils and combine to make your oil blend.   These oils are recommended because they appear to be safest and most effective. - **Citronella** - **Geranium** - **Oregano** - **Clove\*** **\*Clove oil is NOT safe for dogs or cats!** I like the Plant Therapy brand of essential oils ([get here](https://amzn.to/3f37hLa)).  They currently don’t have oregano oil though. The NOW brand ([get here](https://amzn.to/35kir9K)) is also a good choice and has oregano. ### Step 2: Mix with Your Base You should never apply pure essential oils directly to your skin.  They must be diluted in a base or could cause skin irritation.  For tick repellent, you are best off with an oil base because it lasts longer.  If you don’t like the oily feeling on your skin, you can use a water/alcohol base but you’ll need to reapply the repellent more frequently. --- #### Oil-Based Spray: - 40 drops of your essential oil blend (about 0.07 fl. Oz) - 2 fl. Oz. [jojoba oil](https://amzn.to/35gwNIm) or [fractionated coconut oil](https://amzn.to/3bUNI5O) (doesn’t harden) Simply mix the essential oil blend with jojoba oil in a spray bottle. This will give you a concentration of 3.4% essential oils.  Store in a cool, dark place when not using. It should last upwards of 3 months. --- #### Water/Alcohol Base - 40 drops of your essential oil blend (about 0.07 fl. Oz) - 5 fl. Oz. Everclear or ethyl alcohol (at least 95%) - 2 fl. Oz distilled water Essential oils don’t mix with water, so you’ll first need to mix the oils with grain alcohol (Everclear will work).  Some recipes use apple cider vinegar, vodka, or other acids.  However, the essential oils won’t completely dissolve in those so it is best to use grain alcohol. --- **Want to stay safe against ticks? Read:** - [**Tick Removal Tools**](https://momgoescamping.com/tick-removal-tools-humans/) - [**How to Remove a Tick Head Stuck in Your Skin**](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-remove-a-tick-head-stuck-in-your-skin/) - **[Natural Ways to Prevent Tick Bites](https://momgoescamping.com/natural-tick-prevention/)** - [**Permethrin Clothing Against Ticks**](https://momgoescamping.com/permethrin/) - **[What Are Tick Tubes?](https://momgoescamping.com/tick-tubes)** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** ticks --- ### [What Are Tick Tubes and Do They Work?](https://momgoescamping.com/tick-tubes/) **Published:** April 30, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** If you are having issues with ticks in your yard and don’t want to douse it in chemical sprays, an alternative is to use tick tubes.  Here’s how tick tubes work, whether they are worth your money, and what you need to know about DIY tick tubes. ## What Are Tick Tubes? Tick tubes contain cotton which has been soaked in the pesticide permethrin.  Permethrin is incredibly effective at killing ticks.  Hikers often spray permethrin their boots, socks and clothes to prevent ticks while hiking (more on [permethrin clothing](https://momgoescamping.com/permethrin/) here). Many State and National Parks now use permethrin tick tubes in effort to control ticks and prevent disease. This includes parks and public lands in NY State. ([Source](https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-cuomo-announces-lyme-and-tick-borne-disease-control-plan)) ## How Do Tick Tubes Prevent Ticks? The pesticide in tick tubes don’t directly kill ticks.  Rather, the idea is that mice will use the permethrin-treated cotton in the tubes to make their nests.   The permethrin will then kill ticks which get on the mice. Mice are one of the main food sources for ticks, especially in their nymph stages.  By killing the ticks which feed on mice in your yard, you greatly reduce the number of ticks.  The reduction in ticks is seen even in subsequent seasons. ![ticks on a mouse](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/ticks-mouse.jpg "ticks mouse - Mom Goes Camping") ## Do Tick Tubes Work? There is a good amount of evidence showing that tick tubes are effective at reducing the number of ticks. Some studies showed the tubes reduced ticks by 50% or more.  However, there are also studies which found that tick tubes had no effective on the number of ticks. (Sources: [1](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5788731/), [2](https://books.google.rs/books?id=wSlFAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA55&lpg=PA55&dq=tick+tubes+national+park&source=bl&ots=MhDpujv9zz&sig=ACfU3U0jCH9hL1U9pmFHA1YlOnci5XJn9w&hl=sr&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi53vuIrI3pAhVJXMAKHSjSDh4Q6AEwAHoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=tick%20tubes%20national%20park&f=false), [3](https://academic.oup.com/jme/article-abstract/56/4/1095/5432400?redirectedFrom=fulltext), [4](https://portal.ct.gov/-/media/CAES/DOCUMENTS/Publications/Fact_Sheets/Entomology/TickControlFSpdf.pdf?la=en)) There are two key reasons for the varying results. First, it has to do with where tick tubes are used.  Studies show tick tubes are most effective when used on large properties vs. small residential properties.  This makes sense considering that large properties would have more mice habitat. The other issue is whether the mice would actually find the cotton and bring it back to their nests.  There’s no way to guarantee they will do this. However, [mice are incredibly attracted to cotton](https://www.insider.com/what-attracts-mice-2018-12). They [like cotton so much](https://www.pest-control-products.net/314/mice/what-is-the-best-bait-to-use-for-catching-mice/) that cotton is even considered one of the best baits for a mouse trap. \*Even if you use tick tubes, you should still utilize natural methods of controlling ticks in your yard.  These include methods like keeping grass mowed and putting up perimeters.  Click the image below to see full-screen. [![tick control methods for yard](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/prevent-ticks-225x300.jpg "prevent ticks - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/prevent-ticks.jpg) ## Tick Tubes vs. Tick Yard prays Pesticide sprays claim to be safe when applied properly, but there are still a lot of risks, like breathing in the spray while applying it or having your pet ingest the pesticide after eating plants coated in it. Tick sprays are also very bad for the environment: the pesticides get into the groundwater and can kill aquatic life.  It can kill helpful insects like bees and ladybugs, which are desperately needed for pollination and controlling other pests. As for natural tick yard sprays, they simply don’t work well.  Most of the hyped-up claims aren’t backed by any science.  And even those natural sprays can be very dangerous to your pets, especially if they contain ingredients like clove or cinnamon.  Read more about this in my post on [essential oils for ticks](https://momgoescamping.com/essential-oils-ticks/). ## Are Tick Tubes Worth It? Considering the huge environmental and health risks that come with chemical tick sprays, tick tubes are worth trying.  And, considering how dangerous tick-borne diseases are, it’s certainly better than doing nothing.   Even though tick tubes do contain a chemical, it is targeted directly at the ticks on mice so doesn’t have to be sprayed all over your yard.  Once dry, permethrin sticks to fibers so it won’t get into the groundwater like a spray will. ## How to Set Tick Tubes: - Put out tick tubes at the start of tick season (usually April) and against in July/August - Use approximately 6 tubes per 1/4 acre of mouse habitat - Leave a maximum of 10 yards between tubes - Choose areas where mice are likely to go, such as in tall grass or near burrows ## DIY Tick Tubes In theory, you could easily make your own tick tubes by spraying cotton balls with the permethrin and stuffing it into a cardboard tube. But it is illegal to use pesticides in any way other than indicated on the label. Thus, **it is actually illegal to make your own tick tubes**. Further, as Cornell University warns [here](https://blogs.cornell.edu/nysipm/2019/06/28/dont-make-your-own-tick-tubes/), tick tubes are formulated to be effective against mice.  DIY permethrin tick tubes won’t work as well and could harm other animals. Be responsible: spend the extra money for safe, legal tick tubes instead of trying to make your own. ## Where to Buy Tick Tubes ![Thermacell tick tubes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/tick-tubes-thermacell.jpg "tick tubes thermacell - Mom Goes Camping") Right now, the only brand that I’m aware of selling tick tubes for residential use is Thermacell.  Their tick tubes come in packs of 6, 24, 120, or 244.  You can get them [here at Amazon](https://amzn.to/3bR8zad). **Stay safe against ticks.  Read:** - [**Best Tick Removal Tools for Humans**](https://momgoescamping.com/tick-removal-tools-humans/) - [**How to Remove a Tick Head Stuck in Your Skin**](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-remove-a-tick-head-stuck-in-your-skin/) - [**Natural Ways to Prevent Tick Bites**](https://momgoescamping.com/natural-tick-prevention/) --- ###### Additional Resources: <https://tickencounter.org/faq/tick_bite_prevention> <https://nysipm.cornell.edu/whats-bugging-you/ticks/tick-faqs/#natural-products> ###### Image credits: “[Peca](https://www.flickr.com/photos/peromhc/2416149595/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [PeroMHC](https://www.flickr.com/people/peromhc/) “[Minimize ticks in your yard](https://www.flickr.com/photos/99758165@N06/29245082207/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [The NYSIPM Image Gallery](https://www.flickr.com/people/99758165@N06/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** ticks --- ### [How to Pitch a Tent in the Rain So the Inside Doesn't Get Wet](https://momgoescamping.com/pitch-tent-in-rain-inside-doesnt-get-wet/) **Published:** September 25, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** If you go camping often enough, you are bound to experience at least a few rainy days.  So long as you are prepared, rain shouldn’t ruin your trip. However, *setting up camp in the rain*, especially pitching a tent in the rain, can be annoying.  Do it incorrectly and the entire inside of your tent can end up drenched. There are a few methods for setting up your tent in the rain so the inside doesn’t get wet.  Here they are. ## 1. Minimize Wetness With most double wall tents, you need to set up the inner mesh tent first and then the rain fly.  This creates a huge problem because the inner tent lies flat, collecting rain water. You can do some things to minimize the wetness though. ### Pack Tent Parts Separately Instead of rolling all parts of the tent together in the stuff sack, keep the poles, inner tent, and fly separate.  This way you can get out the poles first (while keeping the other items covered or somewhere dry) and set them up.  If the poles are rolled up inside the tent, you’d have to unroll it to get the poles and expose the tent to water. ### Make Sure Fly Is Rolled with the Exterior Outwards It’s okay if the exterior of the tent fly gets wet, but you obviously don’t want the underneath side to get wet – all that wetness will drip onto the inner tent.  Make it a habit to always roll the fly so the exterior is outwards.  Then it won’t matter if you set the fly in the rain while pitching the other parts. ### Shake Off the Inner Tent before Putting the Fly On On good tents, even the inner mesh tent is somewhat water-resistant: rain will bead up on the mesh.  If you throw the fly on top of this though, the pressure will cause the rain droplets to soak into the mesh.  You can remove a lot of those rain droplets simply by giving the inner tent a little shake before throwing on the fly. ### Keep Tent Doors Zipped Make it a habit to to always close doors (and any windows or vents) on the tent when you pack it up. Then they will be closed when you go to pitch the tent.  This is important for pitching in the rain because you don’t want water entering through open doors. ### Bring a Rain Towel Have an extra microfiber towel for wiping down the inside of your tent.  Unless it was an insane downpour (or it took you forever to pitch), this should be enough to dry your tent before bringing in gear. ### Practice The faster your set up your tent, the less wet it will get.  The key here is to *practice* so you can set up your tent in a matter of minutes.  Spend some time practicing how to pitch the tent in your yard or living room.  The last thing you want is to embarrassingly struggle to get your tent pitched while also having to deal with mud, puddles, and cold. **Important:** Even if you know how to set up your tent, you should still test it – and all other gear — before going camping. Otherwise you might arrive at camp only to realize you are missing a stake, a pole cracked, or some other issue. ## 2. Choose a Single Wall Tent Single wall tents have just one waterproof layer.  So long as you make sure the door and vents are closed before pitching, you should be able to pitch without any rain getting inside. However, I personally don’t like most single wall tents.  They tend to have issues with condensation so, even if you manage to get the tent up in the rain without getting everything drenched, it will still get wet inside later from condensation. There are some better, newer-generation single-wall tents though which have improved ventilation so condensation isn’t as much of an issue. Also read: [How to prevent tent condensation](https://momgoescamping.com/tent-condensation/) ## 3. Wait for the Weather to Get Better Summertime showers tend to be really intense but don’t last very long.  If this is the case, then just wait to pitch the tent.  Have fun sitting around in your rain gear or doing other camp tasks until the rain clears. **Tip:** If you are car camping and the rain starts just as you arrive to camp, park your car over the spot where you want to pitch your tent.  When the rain stops, move your car.  Voila! You’ll have a dry, mud-free spot to pitch on. ## 4. Use a Tarp Rain Shelter Tie some rope between two trees to make a ridgeline.  Then drape a tarp over it and tie out the corners.  Suddenly, you’ve got a rain-free area which can be used for cooking, hanging out, shade, or for pitching your tent without getting it wet in the rain. See this post for [ways to set up a tarp shelter](https://momgoescamping.com/tarp-shelters/).  You’ll also need to know these [tarp knots](https://momgoescamping.com/tarp-knots/). Some people like to bring multiple tarps so they have one for over their tent and others for around camp. ![using tarp to make camp rain shelter](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/698330251_15acc4d27d_c.jpg "tarp rain shelter camping - Mom Goes Camping")*So many tarps* \*Tarps with grommet holes are a LOT easier to set up.  You can also get tarps which are specially shaped to make good rain shelters. A basic tarp (like [this one](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F848882%2Foutdoor-products-all-purpose-tarp)) only costs about $15-$20.  There are also plenty of other [cool tarps available at REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dtarp%26pagesize%3D90). ## 5. Use the Fly First Method The “fly first” method means you first pitch the tent fly and then set up the inner tent, thus allowing the inner tent to stay dry.  A lot of ultralight backpacking tents or “fast pitch” tents have this option but you’ll need to buy their ground sheet (which will have grommets specifically placed for that tent’s poles). **Here’s how to pitch fly-first:** 1. Connect all the poles 2. Lay down the ground sheet 3. Set up the poles in the ground sheet 4. Quickly throw the fly over the poles (you don’t want the ground sheet getting drenched) 5. Crawl under the poles with the inner tent 6. Clip the inner tent to the poles 7. Stake down the tent and any guylines and finish securing the fly in place **Tip:** If it’s windy, add some stakes about halfway through.  Otherwise your tent fly might blow down the campsite! [![big agnes tiger wall UL2 fly only pitch](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/big-agnes-tiger-wall-3.jpg "big agnes tiger wall 3 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/big-agnes-tiger-wall-3.jpg)*The Big Agnes Tiger Wall tent with the fly first pitch method  You then crawl inside and set up the inner tent* The fly-first method works really well for keeping the inner tent dry while pitching in the rain.  However, for it to work you’ve got to crouch and crawl underneath the fly while attaching the inner tent in place. I personally don’t mind this, but I’m really petite and nimble.  A taller or larger person might find it annoying. **Some popular tents with the fly-first option include:** - **Big Agnes Tiger Wall UL ([REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dbig%2Bagnes%2Btiger%2Bwall%2BUL%26pagesize%3D90))** - **REI Dome Tents with footprints ([REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DREI%2BDome%26pagesize%3D90))** - **MSR Hubba Hubba tent ([REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dmsr%2Bhubba%2Bhubba), [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3iHbrKh))** - **Big Agnes Big House 4 & 6 Person Tents ([Amazon](https://amzn.to/3kt9Tnr), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dbig%2Bagnes%2Bbig%2Bhouse%26pagesize%3D90))** ## 6. Choose a Tent with Exterior Poles (Exostructure Poles) ![Exped tent with external poles](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/exped-tent.jpg "exped tent - Mom Goes Camping") If you know you will be camping in rainy weather frequently, you might want to get a tent which has exterior poles. There aren’t many of these tents available but they usually boast some cool features like: - Better suited for handling high winds - Can leave the inner tent attached to the fly for faster setup/takedown - Fly can be setup on its own without the inner tent - Completely freestanding - Very strong construction Most of external pole tents are quite pricy (at least $400) but are really made for camping in bad weather.  It might be worth upgrading to one of these tents if you hate pitching your tent in the rain. ## 7. Wear Rain Gear Regardless of which method you use to pitch your tent in the rain, *you* will still be standing in the rain.  Your clothes, hair, and shoes will get drenched (and maybe muddy too), and you’ll just bring all that wetness into the tent when you enter. Hopefully you already know that you should bring a rain jacket on every camping trip.  But rain pants are also really useful.  If you are car camping and it’s likely to be muddy, some rubber wellington boots are also nice to have. Leave all wet thing in your tent’s vestibule before entering and your tent interior should stay nice and dry. **Check out:** - [Best rain pants for women](https://momgoescamping.com/best-waterproof-womens-hiking-pants/) - [Best rain suits for babies and toddlers](https://momgoescamping.com/best-rain-suits-toddlers/) - [Rain jackets and pants at REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Drain) **Important:** When pitching a tent in the rain, it’s really important that you choose the right site. The site can end up flooded or even get washed away. Dead tree limbs – aka *widowmaker trees —* can also fall onto your tent and kill you!  Make sure you stay safe and comfortable.  Read: [What to Do When It Rains While Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/what-to-do-when-it-rains-when-camping/) and [Camping during a Thunderstorm](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-thunderstorm/). --- ###### Resources: <https://outdoors.stackexchange.com/questions/6084/pitching-a-tent-in-the-rain> <https://www.reddit.com/r/bicycletouring/comments/65ltzz/tents_with_a_rainfly_that_can_be_attached_while/dgbscox/> <https://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php/127080-Pitching-Fly-first-BA-tents> Image credits: “[Rainy Campsite](https://www.flickr.com/photos/suckamc/3881822636/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [Martin Cathrae](https://www.flickr.com/people/suckamc/) “[DSC02157](https://www.flickr.com/photos/jughead_jones/698330251/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Jug Jones](https://www.flickr.com/people/jughead_jones/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** rain, tents --- ### [Bear Spray Alternatives](https://momgoescamping.com/bear-spray-alternatives/) **Published:** September 2, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Going into bear country and looking for an alternative to bear spray?  Here’s what you need to know about when it’s okay to use a bear spray alternative and what the best options are. ## These are TERRIBLE Reasons Not to Bring Bear Spray Before we get into bear spray alternatives, let’s address why you would want one an alterantive in the first place.  In most cases, the “reasons” for not using bear spray are downright irresponsible. ### Bear spray injures bears. It is a myth that bear spray injures bears.  While it *does* cause irritation to the bear’s mucus membranes, there is no lasting damage.  On the flip side, bear spray is proven to deter attacks. A bear which attacks a human WILL be killed.   Thus, by using bear spray, you are actually helping to keep bears safe.  You also help keep other hikers safe by teaching bears to avoid encounters with humans so they don’t become habituated or problematic. ([1](https://time.com/5270214/does-pepper-spray-work-on-bears/)) ### Bear spray is too heavy. You know what *is* heavy? Your dead or mauled body being carried out by rescue teams. Your life is not worth saving 8oz of weight from your pack. ### It costs too much. Yes, bear spray can be expensive. However, many parks let you rent canisters of bear spray for about $8 per day.  And, even if you do have to buy it, I’m assuming your life is worth more than the $50 that a typical can of bear spray and holster costs. [![udap bear spray](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/udap-bear-spray.jpg "udap bear spray - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/udap-bear-spray.jpg) [This two-pack of bear spray from UDAP](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FQWVM2S/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07FQWVM2S&linkId=1c21a61830b0a1d5e867f1151f7c4100) is affordable and also includes two holsters. ### “I’m carrying a firearm so I don’t need bear spray.” Studies have repeatedly found that  bear spray is more effective than firearms at stopping bear attacks and injuries. In one study, people using firearms against bears suffered injury 50% of the time whereas those using bear spray were uninjured most of the time. Even when they were attacked, the attacks didn’t last as long and they sustained fewer injuries. While there are certainly inconsistencies in the statistics, one thing is sure: it isn’t easy to shoot a charging bear with a firearm.  Bears have a lot of muscle and fat, so a bullet isn’t guaranteed to stop them (it might just enrage them).  You’ve got to aim for a tiny triangular area of its nose and eyes – a spot that even gun enthusiasts admit is hard to hit. ([2](https://www.grandviewoutdoors.com/big-game-hunting/just-stop-charging-bear), [3](https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/exploration-survival/does-bear-spray-work/), [4](https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/150925-grizzly-bears-attacks-science-animals-bear-spray), [5](https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/wellness/bear-spray-pepper-riot-dangerous/2021/03/19/053c3870-87fb-11eb-bfdf-4d36dab83a6d_story.html), [6](https://www.backcountrychronicles.com/bear-spray-pepper-spray-vs-gun/)) ### Aren’t likely to see a bear. If you follow proper [bear avoidance techniques](https://momgoescamping.com/keep-bears-away-campsite/) like making noise as you hike and storing food properly***,*** it is very unlikely you will have a bear encounter. However, **avoidance techniques are not a substitute for bear spray**. Think of bear spray as a *self defense* item. Hopefully you will never have to use it.  But, it’s better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. Also remember that bear spray is effective against virtually all other mammals.  I haven’t had dangerous bear encounters but I have definitely had numerous incidents with aggressive stray dogs while hiking and camping! ([7](https://wdfw.medium.com/the-truth-about-bear-spray-its-not-just-for-bears-13191225129f)) ## Situations When a Bear Spray Alternatives Make Sense Now that we’ve gone over the *unacceptable* reasons not to carry bear spray, here are some situations where it makes sense to use a bear spray alternative. ### Bear spray is prohibited. In some places ([like Yosemite](https://www.myyosemitepark.com/things-to-do/wildlife/no-bear-spray-allowed/)), bear spray is prohibited. Luckily, it is only prohibited in parks where there aren’t any grizzly bears and a small population of black bears.  Regardless, it’s still a controversial rule because an encounter can occur even when someone is following all the bear safety protocols. ![bear spray prohibited on plane](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/bear-spray-prohibited-on-plane.jpg "bear spray prohibited on plane - Mom Goes Camping")*Bear spray was prohibited in the plane so these hikers got creative and duct taped it to the outside of the plane* ### You can’t bring or buy bear spray where you are going. You can’t bring bear spray on airplanes, even in checked luggage.  Luckily, you can usually buy or rent bear spray at your destination. However, this isn’t always the case – especially abroad in less-developed countries.  In Serbia, for example, there is absolutely nowhere to buy bear spray despite the fact that there are brown bears in some areas. ## Best Bear Spray Alternatives ### 1. Pepper Spray If you absolutely cannot get bear spray, then regular pepper spray could be used as an alternative.  It’s easy to find abroad and is allowed in checked luggage. Just don’t expect it to be as effective as bear spray. The key difference is that bear spray emits a huge cloud of spray which is more likely to get in the animal’s face.  By contrast, you’ve got to have very good aim (and control over your nerves) if you plan on hitting a charging bear with the tiny stream that comes out of human pepper spray. Note that human pepper spray comes in various types based on spray pattern.  **Choose a large canister of pepper spray that shoots out a fog or cone.** Avoid the ones which shoot a stream or gel as these are less likely to get on the bear. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/pepper-spray-vs-bear-spray.jpg "pepper spray vs bear spray - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/pepper-spray-vs-bear-spray.jpg)In this photo you can see the small range pepper spray has You need to be VERY close and have good aim And guess what A bear isnt going to stand their calmly while you spray their face[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/bear-spray-range.jpg "bear spray range - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/bear-spray-range.jpg)Here you can see how far bear spray shoots and the large fog it creates ### 2. Wasp spray If you absolutely can’t get bear spray, wasp spray *may* be a good alternative.  It certainly would cause damage to the bear’s mucus membranes and thus theoretically should stop an attacking bear. The main issue is that wasp spray has a long but very narrow spray.  Like with human pepper spray, it would require careful aim to get the bear in the face.  There’s also basically no information about whether wasp spray is actually effective against bears. Also bear in mind that wasp spray contains toxins.  It could permanently blind a bear or destroy its nasal receptors – essentially killing the bear.  One more reason to use bear spray instead of alternatives if it is available. ### 3. Taser Electronic shock devices are sometimes used to teach habituated bears to stay away from human areas.  Shock devices are also sometimes used in zoos to control bears. There is virtually no information about whether a taser would be effective against an *attacking* bear. Despite this, the company that makes Taser recently designed specifically for wildlife like bears. The bear would have to be incredibly close for you to use the taser and you’d have to aim it correctly too.  And, considering that the Wildlife Taser costs around $2,000, I’d rather find a way to get bear spray. ([8](https://escholarship.org/uc/item/0k1729s6), [9](https://www.fws.gov/), [10](https://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=wildlifenews.view_article&articles_id=450), [11](https://www.treehugger.com/new-taser-specially-designed-for-use-on-wildlife-4855853)) ### 4.  Homemade Bear Spray In theory, you can make your own bear spray out of hot peppers.  It’s actually pretty cheap and easy to make the *liquid* part of bear spray.  However, the *sprayer* part is more problematic. Most people who share DIY bear spray recipes recommend putting it in a water gun or a powerful squirt bottle.  But these simply don’t shoot a large, powerful mist far enough to help during a bear attack. Sure – a squirt gun can shoot far, but you’d have to aim perfectly into the bear’s eyes and nose (not easy when a bear is charging you).  And the mist on squirt bottles rarely goes further than few feet in front of you.  The bear would be on top of you by the time it hit the mist. Further, as one hiker said [here](https://www.trailspace.com/forums/beginners/topics/159850.html) of homemade bear spray, “I wouldn’t want to rely on a spray bottle when it matters most. They break all the time on me at home during use in the garden and kitchen. I can only imagine how often they would break in the backcountry.” ### 5. Bear Repellents   Even though bear spray is often called a “bear repellent,” they are not used the same way.  Bear repellents are meant to prevent a bear encounter completely (such as by ammonia or an electric fence around camp) *or* to scare a bear away if you do have an encounter (such as by sounding an air horn at the bear). Bear repellents are *not* a substitute for bear spray.  However, if you really can’t bring bear spray, then at least make sure you are using multiple repellent methods.  Read this post about [which bear repellents work and which don’t](https://momgoescamping.com/bear-repellent/). ## The Bottom Line? Having a bear spray alternative is probably better than no bear spray at all. But I wouldn’t count on it when it matters most.  If going to bear country, do the responsible thing: get bear spray, practice getting it quickly, and keep it somewhere accessible. --- ###### Image credits: “[Bear Spray is not allowed inside the pla](https://www.flickr.com/photos/agrinberg/42717982504/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [AGrinberg](https://www.flickr.com/people/agrinberg/), “[Bear Day 2014 – photo credit Steve Bayli](https://www.flickr.com/photos/governmentofalberta/16805041357/)” ([CC BY-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/2.0/)) by [Government of Alberta](https://www.flickr.com/people/governmentofalberta/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [Most Common Bear Spray Mistakes](https://momgoescamping.com/most-common-bear-spray-mistakes/) **Published:** September 2, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** You’ve armed yourself with a canister of bear spray.  You’ll be safe if you have an encounter with a bear, right? A lot of people – including experienced hikers and campers – make these common mistakes with bear spray. --- **Be prepared for your next outdoor adventure with my PRINTABLE**  **Camping Cheat Sheets: An Illustrated Manual** [![camping cheat sheets](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/interior-pages-1024x356.jpg "interior pages - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets) **[Get It Here!](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** --- ## 1. Not Practicing with the Bear Spray [![Practice canister of bear spray](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/practice-bear-spray.jpg "practice bear spray - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/practice-bear-spray.jpg) This is by far the biggest mistake people make with bear spray.  Bear attacks can happen without much warning.  You MUST be able to get your bear spray and deploy it within a second’s notice, all while your adrenaline is pumping.  That simply isn’t possible without practice. If you’ve ever had to deploy bear spray, you’ll also know that it is surprisingly forceful it is. The recoil can cause you to aim too high, thus missing the bear. Various brands sell tester canisters of bear spray for practicing with.  These canisters are identical to bear spray just without the capsicum.  It is well worth the cost of the tester can. **Practice:** - Getting the bear spray out of the holster - Removing the safety in the dark or without looking - Aiming the canister - Firing the bear spray while still looking at your target - Shooting the spray in various types and directions of wind ## 2. Test Firing the Bear Spray While it is smart to practice with bear spray, you never want to fire a test shot from the bear spray you’ll be taking with you in bear country.  Most bear spray canisters only have about 7 seconds worth of spray in them.  The first second of spray is most powerful.  After that, the force dwindles down significantly. If you’ve test fired a canister of bear spray, chances are you won’t have enough bear spray to repel the attack.  The spray might not reach far enough to hit the bear either. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/test-firing-bear-spray.jpg "test firing bear spray - Mom Goes Camping")Now that this bear canister has been sprayed it will be a lot less effective against a bear attack ## 3. Not Keeping the Bear Spray Somewhere Accessible Bear spray is going to be completely useless if you’ve got it stored in your backpack. It must be kept somewhere accessible. **The best way to wear bear spray is in a belt holster or a chest holster.** This ensures the bear spray is on you at all times and always within reach. #### What about backpack hip belt holsters or should strap holsters? Some people attach the bear spray to their backpack hip belt or shoulder strap.  These places do keep the bear spray accessible while hiking.  But what if you take your backpack off? I definitely don’t wear my pack while going to the bathroom!  And I don’t trust myself to remember to carry the spray with me every time I take the pack off, such as when setting up camp or filtering water. For these reasons, a holster which isn’t attached to your pack is the best way to go. The same applies to bikers. There are holsters designed for carrying bear spray in your water bottle holder, but this only keeps the bear spray accessible when you are on your bike.  Better to have it on your person at all times instead. ![counter assault bear spray holster](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/counter-assault-bear-spray-holster.jpg "counter assault bear spray holster - Mom Goes Camping") The brand Counter Assault makes three types of bear spray holsters. UDAP and Frontiersman also have good options. Check them out [here on REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fc%2Fbear-spray) or [here on Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=bear+spray+holster&rh=n%253A3401081&dc&qid=1630580367&rnid=2941120011&ref=sr_nr_n_3&_encoding=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=f58aab77731f209295d78bba0a9eaa10&camp=1789&creative=9325). ## 4. Losing the Spray Colin Dowler started his hike with bear sprayYour pants pocket keep bear spray *accessible*, but it doesn’t prevent you from losing the bear spray. This is [what happened to Colin Dowler](https://www.readersdigest.ca/culture/grizzly-bear-attack-pocket-knife/). He started his hike with bear spray in his pocket but lost it somewhere on the trail.  The mistake was almost deadly. As he headed home, he encountered a brown bear who started attacking him.  He tried to follow the advice to play dead but the animal was chopming on  his leg.  As he said, “I can’t play dead while I’m screaming.” Dowler managed to survive because he stabbed the bear with a pocket knife – but required more than 200 staples to treat his 50+ gashes. The moral? Don’t lose your bear spray. ## 5. Forgetting to Take Off the Ties When you buy bear spray, there will be plastic zip ties holding the safety on.  You MUST remove the ties before you hit the trail! Otherwise you won’t be able to deploy the spray if you need it. [![Bear spray with safety ties still on](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/bear-spray-safety-ties.jpg "bear spray safety ties - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/bear-spray-safety-ties.jpg)Bear spray with safety ties still on ## 6. Using Bear Spray Like Insect Repellent Even though bear spray is called “repellent”, it is not to be used like insect repellent.  It’s more like a self-defense item than a repellent. Apparently there are a lot of people who don’t realize this and spray it all over their tent, backpacks, clothes, etc.   In fact, this could even *attract* bears because they might come to check out the scent. ## 7. Not Having One Canister Per Person I know bear spray can be expensive at about $50 per canister.  But don’t try to save money by sharing one can amongst your group of hikers.  Each person needs their own canister of bear spray. Foremost, you probably aren’t going to be together every second of your outdoors trip (I don’t take company with me on bathroom trips!).  It sometimes takes more than one canister of bear spray to stop an attack – especially if the first canister was fired too early or too high.   The more people with bear spray, the safer you will be. [![udap bear spray](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/udap-bear-spray.jpg "udap bear spray - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/udap-bear-spray.jpg) UDAP is one of the most popular and affordable brands of bear spray. It’s cheaper when you buy it as a two pack. [This set](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FQWVM2S/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07FQWVM2S&linkId=1c21a61830b0a1d5e867f1151f7c4100) includes two canisters and two holsters. ## 8. Spraying Too Soon Bear spray is meant to be a last resort.  Yes, if you see a bear, get the bear spray out and remove the safety — but don’t fire the spray right away.  Most times, simply announcing your presence by talking and slowly waving your arms overhead while you back away is enough to keep the bear away. If the bear approaches within 30 feet, spray a 1/2 to 1-second warning shot. If the bear charges and gets within 20 to 30 feet, then start firing the spray in 1-second blasts in a zigzag pattern, aiming slightly downwards. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/testing-bear-spray.jpg "testing bear spray - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/testing-bear-spray.jpg)A full canister of bear spray can shoot at least 25 feet ## 9. Using Expired Bear Spray The capsicum in bear spray can weaken over time, thus making it less effective as it ages. You will need to replace the bear spray when it expires.  Even better, *before* it expires.  After all, do you really want to trust an expired product with your safety? What should you do with expired bear spray? Use it as a tester spray.  You are practicing, right? ## 10. Keeping Bear Spray in Your Car You know those warnings that bear spray can explode if left somewhere hot, like the inside of your car?  Yes – that actually can happen.  Like [this case](https://www.spokesman.com/blogs/outdoors/2013/jul/30/hot-news-keep-bear-spray-where-sun-dont-shine/) of exploding bear spray which shredding the holster.  Or [this case](https://www.reddit.com/r/Wellthatsucks/comments/i0azmj/friend_forgot_he_had_bear_mace_in_his_car_after/) where someone left bear spray in the car and “the hot sun turned it into a spice missile that shattered the windshield and coated the inside in no-no foam.” There’s also [this story](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/3mvru7/what_happens_when_a_can_of_bear_spray_goes_off_in/) of a canister of bear car that got left in the car after a camping trip. The canister ended up under the passenger seat. The passenger tried to move the seat back and punctured the can. While driving.  It’s a miracle that an accident didn’t occur. The moral? Take those warnings seriously.  Don’t leave bear spray in the heat and put it away immediately after your trip. ## 11. Thinking You Don’t Need Bear Spray Just because the risk of getting attacked by a bear is incredibly low, it doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t bring bear spray.   With few exceptions when it’s okay to use [bear spray alternatives](https://momgoescamping.com/bear-spray-alternatives/), it is downright irresponsible not to take bear spray with you in bear territory. It’s better to have bear spray and not need it than need it and not have it.  So be a responsible outdoorsperson: get bear spray, get a good carrying holster, and practice using it. --- ###### Image credits: **“[Bear spray](https://www.flickr.com/photos/jkbrooks85/14740870746/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [jkbrooks85](https://www.flickr.com/people/jkbrooks85/)** “[dh 46](https://www.flickr.com/photos/vikapproved/2697138201/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [vikapproved](https://www.flickr.com/people/vikapproved/) “[Bear Spray](https://www.flickr.com/photos/flyingpuffin/28907874463/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [Flying Puffin](https://www.flickr.com/people/flyingpuffin/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** bears --- ### [DIY Camp Sink/Hand Washing Station (Designs + Instructions)](https://momgoescamping.com/diy-camp-sink-hand-washing-station/) **Published:** August 14, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I honestly don’t wash my hands often when camping.  A bit of alcohol hand gel after going to the bathroom and that’s it.  But then there are moments when I know I’ve been touching nasty stuff all day (my kids touch nasty stuff too but my hands usually end up worse than theirs :)).  For these situations – especially if you are going to be camping in the same spot for multiple days or will touch raw meat – a camp sink for washing hands is very useful. There are several ways to make a camp hand washing station.  They range from simple water jug sinks to field sinks with pumps.   I’ll go over four DIY camp sink designs here. ## Notes about Making a DIY Camp Hand Washing Station To make a functional camp sink for washing hands, you’ll need: - **Good drainage or a way to capture the dirty water.** Otherwise you’ll have a muddy mess underneath the hand washing station! - **Way to control the water flow.** Otherwise you’ll waste tons of water each time you wash your hands – which means multiple trips to refill your water container. - **Ideally a CLOSED container to catch the dirty water.** Otherwise mosquitoes and flies will congregate over the dirty water. - **Eco-friendly soap.** Note that even eco-friendly soap shouldn’t be dumped near water sources. If staying at a campground, ask about the rules for dumping dirty water.  You may need to carry the dirty water a far distance to dump it! [![bad camping hand washing sink design](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/bad-hand-washing-station-setup.jpg "bad hand washing station setup - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/bad-hand-washing-station-setup.jpg) *This is NOT a good way to wash your hands while camping!* ## DIY Camp Sink Designs ### 1. Water Jug with Spigot Camp Sink [![water jug hand washing station](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/jug-hand-washing-station.jpg "jug hand washing station - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/jug-hand-washing-station.jpg) The simplest way to make a camp sink is to get a water jug which has a spigot (something like [this](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F896269%2Fgsi-outdoors-folding-water-cube-53-gal) or [this](https://amzn.to/3OxlQZV)).  You open the spigot to wash your hands and close it when you’re done.  That’s it.   You can use the same setup as your [camp kitchen sink](https://momgoescamping.com/portable-camp-sinks/) for filling pots, water bottles, etc. too. But there are some problems with this simple setup: - The ground beneath you will get wet and muddy. - You’ll probably splash your feet. To solve this problem, you can put a catch basin underneath the jug.  However, in my experience, there will still be a LOT of splashing.   It’s also really annoying to dump the full basin (you will splash yourself when dumping it!) **To make this hand washing setup work, you must:** - Put the catch basin very close to the jug’s tap. - Keep the water flow slow. - Dump the catch basin often. [![jug camp sink with catch basin](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/jug-camp-sink-with-catch-basin.jpg "jug camp sink with catch basin - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/jug-camp-sink-with-catch-basin.jpg) *The basin is set close so less splashing occurs.* ### 2. Hands Free Camp Hand Washing Station [![hands free DIY camp sink with foot pedal](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/hands-free-camp-sink-setup.jpg "hands free camp sink setup - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/hands-free-camp-sink-setup.jpg) This design is similar to the hand washing station above.  The difference is that you attach string to the spigot tap.  The string goes through a series of hooks and then you tie it to a foot pedal.  Then you can step on the pedal to open the tap, allowing you to use the camp sink without hands. This design is much more hygienic since you don’t have to touch the dirty spigot after you’ve just washed your hands — important if you are cooking raw meat at camp. You can read the [full instructions here](https://www.instructables.com/Easy-Build-Handwashing-Station-With-Videos/). The sink shown in the picture above works great, but it still has the same problems as the simple camp sink above: WATER WILL SPLASH on the ground.  If the ground doesn’t have good drainage, you will end up with a muddy mess, and probably wet shoes too. ### 3. Splash-Free Camp Sink Design The DIY camp sink design shown below is also easy to make. However, the sink is designed so it is completely splash free.  Ideally, you run the drainage tube into a jug and *not* an open bucket.  This way insects won’t get into the dirty water.  It’s also a lot easier to dump water from a jug than an open bucket. For this to work, you’ll need a sink basin which has a drain *and* a hose.  There are lots of collapsible camping sinks with drains.  The problem is that it’s almost impossible to get a hose attached securely to these.  You are better off getting a cheap plastic bin, drilling the drainage hole, and attaching the hose to it (here [how to do attach the drain hose](https://www.nosoilsolutions.com/making-hydroponic-reservoir-drain/); the instructions are for a bucket but the same instructions apply to plastic bins as well). [![camping hand washing station diagram](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/camping-hand-washing-station.jpg "camping hand washing station - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/camping-hand-washing-station.jpg) ### 4. DIY Hand Washing Station with Foot Pump Here’s another very cool camp sink which would be ideal for camping with a large group, such as Scouts.   The drainage system is similar to the one above and design is splash-free. The difference is that there is a foot pump to bring the water to the faucet.   You can read the full instructions [here](https://www.instructables.com/Field-Sink/).  There’s also another variation of it [here](https://www.instructables.com/Camp-Sink-Temporary-Hand-Washing-Station/). [![diy camp hand washing sink with foot pump](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/camping-hand-washing-station-with-pump.jpg "camping hand washing station with pump - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/camping-hand-washing-station-with-pump.jpg) --- ###### Image credits: “[Everything; no exceptions.](https://www.flickr.com/photos/mike-burns/539761588/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [Mike Burns](https://www.flickr.com/people/mike-burns/), [Truck camper/platform bed](https://www.instructables.com/Truck-Camper-PlatformBed/), by [bcrocker1](https://www.instructables.com/member/bcrocker1/) ([CC BY-NC-SA](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/)), “[Hand washing station](https://www.flickr.com/photos/communityeyehealth/50397645997/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Community Eye Health](https://www.flickr.com/people/communityeyehealth/), [Garden wash station](https://www.instructables.com/Garden-Wash-Station/) by [amtrudell](https://www.instructables.com/member/amtrudell/), ([CC BY-NC-SA](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/)), [Easy build handwashing station, with videos](https://www.instructables.com/Easy-Build-Handwashing-Station-With-Videos/), By [Merilee D Karr](https://www.instructables.com/member/Merilee+D+Karr/), ([CC BY-NC-SA](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/)), ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** sink --- ### [Gravity Sinks: 5 Simple, Hands-Free and Splash-Free Designs](https://momgoescamping.com/gravity-sink-designs/) **Published:** December 12, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** A gravity sink is the simplest way to make a sink with running water.  There’s no need for pumps or hoses. You just need a container for holding water. Depending on how you make the gravity sink, you may also need a platform, graywater container and tubing. Here I’ll go over 5 ways to make a gravity sink and troubleshooting common problems with gravity sinks. [![bad camping hand washing sink design](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/bad-hand-washing-station-setup.jpg "bad hand washing station setup - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/bad-hand-washing-station-setup.jpg)*This is NOT a good way to wash your hands while camping Its unhygienic wastes water and creates mud* --- **New to camping? Then you need my PRINTABLE Cheat Sheets. From tying tarp guylines to campfire cooking, they contain all the info you need to be a camping pro.** [![camping cheat sheets](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/interior-pages-1024x356.jpg "interior pages - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets) **[Click to buy them!](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** --- ## Gravity Sink Designs ### 1. Water Container with Spigot The easiest gravity sink design uses a water jug with a spigot. You elevate the jug so there’s room underneath the spigot. [![kids using a diy sink and faucet](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/PIXNIO-43557-450x338.jpg "kids using a diy sink and faucet - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/PIXNIO-43557-450x338.jpg)This sink setup has a bucket for catching dirty water It keeps the ground from getting muddy[![diy gravity fed sink and faucet](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/14968410321_f6569e36ef_c.jpg "DIY sink - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/14968410321_f6569e36ef_c.jpg)Heres another gravity sink with graywater catchment Its made from two trash cans  Drill a hole in the trash can to attach a spigot[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/wash-bathroom-sink-bad-nature-water-bathroom-mongolia.jpg "wash-bathroom-sink-bad-nature-water-bathroom-mongolia - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/wash-bathroom-sink-bad-nature-water-bathroom-mongolia.jpg)This gravity sink is good for long term camps and off grid cabins The lower sink prevents splashing and channels water to a graywater bucket The water can be reused for watering plants[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/igloo-hand-washing-station.jpg "igloo hand washing station - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/igloo-hand-washing-station.jpg)Igloo makes [this ](https://amzn.to/37twnBE)dispenser for washing hands Its easier if the water container has an onoff spigot though [like these](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B076BS6PJK/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B076BS6PJK&linkId=d594a7b59cf190fe67dac4041fa43da6) cheap water containers --- ### 2. Tippy Tap A tippy tap is a type of gravity sink for washing hands. To [make a tippy tap](https://www.primalsurvivor.net/make-tippy-tap/), you poke a hole in a plastic container and hang it up. When you tilt the container, water starts flowing. [![tippy tap diy sink](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/PIXNIO-43555-450x338.jpg "tippy tap - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/PIXNIO-43555-450x338.jpg)A simple tippy tap hand washing station Pull the bottles downward to start the faucet Return upright to stop the flow[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/tippy-tap-with-drainae-underneath-min.jpg "tippy tap with drainae underneath-min - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/tippy-tap-with-drainae-underneath-min.jpg)This tippy tap is controlled by a foot pedal  It has gravel underneath for drainage ### 3. Plastic Water Bottle Gravity Sink Here’s another way to make a gravity sink for washing hands: - Poke a hole in the lid of a water bottle. A hot nail works well for this. - Cut the end off of the water bottle. - Hang the water bottle with the lid down. - Pour water into the bottle to start the “faucet”. [![DIY camp sink idea](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/plastic-bottle-hand-washing-station.jpg "Military handwashing station - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/plastic-bottle-hand-washing-station.jpg)This design encourages water savings because you see exactly how much water you are using  Youll lather quickly to get your hands washed before the water runs out ### 4. Hands-Free Gravity Sink A hands-free sink is more hygienic since you don’t have to touch the spigot. This is particularly important if you are doing things like cleaning fish or cooking meat. It’s actually fairly simple to attach a foot pedal. You’ll just need some string, metal hooks to run the string through and a pedal. You can read the [full instructions here](https://www.instructables.com/Easy-Build-Handwashing-Station-With-Videos/). [![hands free DIY camp sink with foot pedal](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/hands-free-camp-sink-setup.jpg "hands free camp sink setup - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/hands-free-camp-sink-setup.jpg)This foot pedal gravity sink even has soap on a rope It needs a graywater basin or drainage to prevent splashing and muddiness ### 5. Splash Free, Hands-Free Gravity Sink Here is a more advanced version of the hands-free gravity sink design.  It has a sink basin with a drain *and* a hose.  The hose takes dirty water into a closed container, so insects can’t get in. String connected to a foot pedal controls the water flow.[![gravity sink design hands free splash free](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/gravity-sink-design-hands-free-splash-free-1024x782.jpg "gravity sink design hands free splash free - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/gravity-sink-design-hands-free-splash-free.jpg) For this design to work, you’ll need a plastic basin with a drain hole. You can [install a drain in a plastic basin](https://www.nosoilsolutions.com/making-hydroponic-reservoir-drain/) by drilling a hole in the bin and attaching a hose. Here are [instructions](https://www.nosoilsolutions.com/making-hydroponic-reservoir-drain/); the are for a bucket but apply to plastic bins as well. ## Troubleshooting Gravity Sinks Here are some of the common problems with gravity sink designs and how to fix them. ### Muddy Ground A gravity sink should have a graywater catchment basin underneath it.  Otherwise the ground can get wet and muddy.  Dirty can splash your feet as you use the sink.  You can reuse the graywater for things like watering plants. If you don’t have a graywater basin, you’ll need good drainage underneath the gravity sink.  For permanent sinks, you can dig a pit and fill it with sand and gravel. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/tippy-tap-with-water-coming-from-lid-wastes-water.jpg "IMG_3889 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/tippy-tap-with-water-coming-from-lid-wastes-water.jpg)Theres no graywater catchment and poor drainage so the ground is going to get muddy quickly ### Splashing As the water hits the sink or graywater container, the gravity sink can splash. To prevent splashing: - Put the graywater basin very close to the jug’s tap. - Keep the water flow slow. - Dump the catch basin often. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/gravity-sink-reduce-splashing.jpg "gravity sink reduce splashing - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/gravity-sink-reduce-splashing.jpg)The graywater basin is  very close to the spigot to reduce splashing ### Conserving Water The gravity sink should have a spigot or another way to control the flow of water.  This will reduce the amount of water you use and the number of times you need to dump the graywater basin. [![jug camp sink with catch basin](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/jug-camp-sink-with-catch-basin.jpg "jug camp sink with catch basin - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/jug-camp-sink-with-catch-basin.jpg)Only a small amount of water comes out when you press the button helping to conserve water ### Insects Both your clean water basin and graywater basin should be CLOSED. Otherwise mosquitoes, flies and other insects will swarm over the water.  Closing the graywater basin can be tricky. You may need to attach a hose.  If you can’t close the graywater basin, then dump it frequently. ## Gravity Sink FAQ: #### What is the easiest gravity sink to make for camping? The easiest is a water jug with a built-in spigot elevated on a cooler, table, or folding stand with a basin underneath to catch graywater. You need no tools, no drilling, and no DIY skills just a jug with a spigot, something to elevate it on, and a bucket underneath. For most family camping situations this is all you need. The more elaborate designs (foot pedals, hoses, drain basins) are worth the effort for longer trips or base camps where you’ll be washing hands dozens of times a day. #### Where do you dispose of graywater when camping? At developed campgrounds, graywater (water used for handwashing or dishwashing with biodegradable soap) should be disposed of at the campground’s designated dump station or utility sink if one is available. If not, scatter it at least 200 feet from your campsite, any water source, and trails. Never dump graywater directly into a stream, lake, or river even if using biodegradable soap the soap still affects aquatic ecosystems. Strain out any food particles first and pack those out with your trash. **Did you forget something? See this [List of Camp Kitchen Essentials](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-kitchen-essentials-list/) to make sure your kitchen is setup right.** --- ###### Image credits: “[Washing hands](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Washing_hands_%282%29.jpg)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [CDC Global Health](https://www.flickr.com/people/cdcglobal/) “[Handwashing station](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Handwashing_station_%282%29.jpg)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [CDC Global Health](https://www.flickr.com/people/cdcglobal/) “[Simple handwashing facility](https://www.flickr.com/photos/gtzecosan/6908552507/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Sustainable sanitation](https://www.flickr.com/people/gtzecosan/) <https://www.af.mil/News/Photos/igphoto/2000031626/>, “[Boy is using current – not yet improved](https://www.flickr.com/photos/31579017@N04/10321935515/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Frodo1977](https://www.flickr.com/people/31579017@N04/), “[150610-N-GO800-005](https://www.flickr.com/photos/compacflt/18666094595/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [U.S. Pacific Fleet](https://www.flickr.com/people/compacflt/), “[Everything; no exceptions.](https://www.flickr.com/photos/mike-burns/539761588/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [Mike Burns](https://www.flickr.com/people/mike-burns/), [Garden wash station](https://www.instructables.com/Garden-Wash-Station/) by [amtrudell](https://www.instructables.com/member/amtrudell/), ([CC BY-NC-SA](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/)), [Easy build handwashing station, with videos](https://www.instructables.com/Easy-Build-Handwashing-Station-With-Videos/), By [Merilee D Karr](https://www.instructables.com/member/Merilee+D+Karr/), ([CC BY-NC-SA](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/)), ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** sink --- ### [Camping Kitchen Essentials List: Plus How to Set Up Your Outdoor Kitchen Like a Pro](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-kitchen-essentials-list/) **Published:** October 19, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Cooking is one of the best parts of camping and food always tastes better when outdoors.  But cooking can also be a major pain if you don’t plan your camp kitchen properly.  Here’s a list of camp kitchen essential items and how to set it up so you have a simple yet functional place to cook at camp. ## Camp Kitchen List ### 1. Camping Stove, Fuel and Lighters You’ll need a portable gas stove for camping.  These usually use canisters of gas.  If you are going to be camping for a long time or in a large group, then you may want a stove which connects to larger propane tanks. Note: Even if you plan on [cooking over a campfire](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-cook-over-a-campfire/), you will still need to bring a stove camping.  Campfire cooking simply isn’t practical for most things.  For example, you don’t want to light a fire each time you need hot water for coffee.  It also takes a long time to cook over campfires and is difficult to do in the rain. **Recommended:** [Coleman Classic camping stove](https://amzn.to/3mjjtdH) --- ### 2. Table or Kitchen Station ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/camp-field-station-kitchen.jpg "camp field station kitchen - Mom Goes Camping")At the very least you will want a table for your kitchen  The main reason is because it is safer to keep your stove on an elevated surface especially if there are kids dogs or drunk people running around camp  Having a table also makes it much easier to prepare the food without having to hunch over on the ground If your campground has picnic tables at each campsite, then you can get away with not bringing a table.  However, it’s nice to have a dedicated table for the stove so you can reserve the picnic space for eating and hanging out. Some camping kitchen tables have built-in shelves and hooks for your cooking equipment. **See these** [**best portable camping kitchens**](https://momgoescamping.com/best-portable-camping-kitchens/) --- ### 3. Food Storage - **Cooler:** If you want to bring any items which require refrigeration, you’ll need a cooler.  There are some electric ones which you may be able to charge at camp or even with solar. - **Large Storage Bins:** I’ve made the mistake of keeping non-refrigerated food in plastic shopping bags while camping.  It’s annoying and messy to have to search through 10+ bags each time you want a snack.   Bins also help keep insects out of your food. - **Storage Baggies and Plastic Containers:** You’ll need some storage baggies and containers for uneaten food. These are also useful for repackaging snacks or sandwiches to take with you on day hikes. - **Bear Canister:** Depending on where you go camping, you may be required to put food in a bear canister. Read about them [here](https://momgoescamping.com/bear-canister-vs-ursack/). --- ### 4. Storage Bins for Cookware You’ll want a separate bin for keeping all of your camp cookware, utensils, and other non-food supplies.  This will make your life much easier in terms of organization.  You can just grab the entire bin instead of having to carry each item over to the stove individually. --- ### 5. Tarp Shelter or Kitchen Tent This is optional but really nice to have – especially for cooking in rainy weather or hot sun.   The cheapest solution is to buy a tarp and some rope to set up a shelter above the kitchen area.  The easier solution (especially when there might not be trees for anchoring a tarp) is to buy a kitchen tent. --- ### 6. Dishwashing Items - Sink (see these [best portable camping sinks](https://momgoescamping.com/portable-camp-sinks/)) - Drying rack or bin - Biodegradable dish soap - Dish sponge - Scrubber brush - Dish towels #### Also read this post: [How to do dishes when camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wash-dishes-camping/) [![washing and drying dishes while camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/2248203342_16101063f8_c.jpg "drying dishes while camping - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/2248203342_16101063f8_c.jpg)Camp dish washing station --- ### 7. Water Jugs with Spigots It’s annoying to walk to the camp spigot each time you need water for things like filling a pot or your water bottle.  Instead, bring along some large water jugs with a spigot on the bottom, like [these ones](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008VET4Q8/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B008VET4Q8&linkId=15e47ca2811bed4de7e1d5a7a1cac58a). --- ### 8. Lantern It’s almost inevitable that you will have to do some cooking or cleanup at night.  Make sure you have a lantern to hang near your camp kitchen for better visibility. --- ### 9. Trash Can The simplest solution is to bring plastic bags, hang them from a tree, and use this as your trash can.  The trash can attract bees and flies though, so it might be worth it to bring a dedicated trash can with a lid that closes. --- ### 10. Eating Supplies - Utensils - Cups and/or mugs - Bowls - Plates - Large serving bowls - Serving spoons - Water bottles --- ### 11. Cooking and Food Prep Supplies In addition to the above camp kitchen items, you’ll need these items for preparing food: - Pots and pans - Stirring spoons - Spatula - Chopping knives - Cutting board - Colander - Pot holder or lifter - Grill rack - Skewers - Bottle opener, corkscrew, can opener - Coffee maker (see these [portable coffee makers](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-coffee/)) - Tinfoil - Cheese grater - Tongs --- ### 12. Food Essentials This will vary depending on what you plan to eat while camping, but you’ll probably want to bring: - Cooking oil - Salt - Herbs, spices, and seasoning mixes - Coffee, tea, hot chocolate - Sweeteners - Creamer - Snacks - Energy bars - Cereal, oatmeal, pancake mix - Instant meals - Pasta, instant rice, coucous… - Canned foods \*See these [easy camping meal ideas](https://momgoescamping.com/easy-camping-meals/) which don’t require refrigeration. --- ### 13. Other Kitchen Items - Paper towels, napkins - Tablecloth - Fire pit (check campground fire regulations) - Charcoal - Firestarters - Hatchet (read why [here](https://momgoescamping.com/best-camping-hatchets/)) --- ###### Sources and Image credits: <https://www.campingforums.com/forum/showthread.php?4993-Camp-Kitchens>, <https://expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/couple-of-camp-kitchen-questions.41697/>, “[Cooking](https://www.flickr.com/photos/erialc/50110902502/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [C Ames](https://www.flickr.com/people/erialc/) “[Breakfast Dishes](https://www.flickr.com/photos/bennettanneb/2248203342/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Anne Bennett](https://www.flickr.com/people/bennettanneb/), ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Backpacking **Tags:** checklist, cooking, food, kitchen --- ### [Backpacking vs. Camping vs. Glamping (See Which One You Are)](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-vs-camping-vs-glamping/) **Published:** October 7, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** There’s a lot of crossover between backpacking, camping and glamping.  For example, I sometimes bring my portable espresso maker (definitely a glamping item) camping but sit on the ground instead of camping chairs. Below is a breakdown of backpacking vs. camping vs. glamping.  See which items you do on your trips. If they mostly fall into one category, that’s the type of camper you are. \[table id=44 /\] ## **Which Style Is Right for You?** The comparison table above shows *what* each style involves. But the harder question is: which one fits your life right now? **Start with glamping if:** - You’re new to spending nights outdoors and want to see if you actually like it before buying gear - You’re traveling with a partner or friends who have very different comfort levels - You want a special-occasion outdoor experience without the learning curve - You have young babies and aren’t ready to troubleshoot sleep logistics in the backcountry Glamping is often dismissed as “not real camping,” but it’s a genuinely smart entry point. You get exposure to nature and outdoor rhythms without the barrier of gear knowledge. Many lifelong campers started in a luxury tent or a yurt. **Start with car camping if:** - You want a real outdoor experience but prefer a safety net (car nearby, restrooms, fire ring) - You have kids between ages 2–8 who need predictability and don’t hike far - You’re on a budget — car camping is dramatically cheaper than glamping and requires less gear than backpacking - You want to test gear before committing to carrying it Car camping is the sweet spot for most families. It’s where you figure out what you actually need, what your kids actually tolerate, and what kind of camper you actually are. Almost every experienced backpacker started here. **Work toward backpacking if:** - You’ve done several car camping trips and want more solitude - You’re comfortable troubleshooting gear problems on your own - You can hike comfortably for 5+ miles carrying a load - Your kids are old enough to carry a small pack and walk a few miles independently (typically 7+) Backpacking is not a harder version of camping — it’s a different activity with a significant gear and skill learning curve. Don’t rush the transition. A bad first backpacking trip because you weren’t ready can put you off the whole thing for years. ## What Does Each Style Actually Cost? **What Does Each Style Actually Cost?** Cost is one of the biggest factors people don’t think about until they’re already committed. **Glamping:** $100–$400+ per night depending on the property and amenities. No gear required — that’s the point. Great for a one-time experience; expensive as a regular habit. **Car camping:** $20–$50/night at most campgrounds. Upfront gear investment of $300–$1,000 for a family getting started (tent, sleeping bags, cooking kit, chairs). Once you have gear, per-night costs are very low. [A solid family camping checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-checklist-family/) helps you avoid buying things you don’t need. **Backpacking:** Free to $30/night (most backcountry permits are low cost). But gear investment is real — lightweight backpacking gear built for carrying costs $500–$2,000+ to outfit one person properly. Shared family gear helps. See our [backpacking meal planning guide](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-meal-plans/) for one of the most controllable costs: food. ## **Backpacking vs. Camping vs. Glamping FAQ** **Which type of camping is best for beginners?** Car camping is the best starting point for most people. You have your car nearby with extra gear, you’re usually at a campground with restrooms and other campers around, and you can bail to a hotel if something goes sideways. It’s the style that teaches you what you actually need — and what you don’t — before you invest in more specialized gear. **Which is best for families with young kids?** Car camping wins for families with children under 7. The mix of restrooms, manageable distances, and the ability to bring comfort items from home (extra blankets, their favorite pillow, a camp chair for the adults’ sanity) makes it the most forgiving option. As kids get older and more capable hikers, backpacking opens up. Our [complete guide to backpacking with kids](https://momgoescamping.com/guide-backpacking-kids/) covers the transition timeline. **Can you go straight from glamping to backpacking?** Technically yes, but it’s a big leap. The glamping-to-backpacking jump skips the car camping stage where most people develop practical skills: setting up a tent efficiently, cooking over a camp stove, learning what they actually need to sleep well outdoors. It’s worth spending a few car camping nights between glamping and backpacking. **Is regular camping and tent camping the same thing?** Usually, yes — “camping” most commonly means sleeping in a tent or similar shelter at a campground. But it’s a loose term. RV camping, cabin rentals, and car camping are all sometimes called “camping.” In this post, we use “camping” to mean tent-based car camping at a designated site. **How much does gear for backpacking cost compared to car camping?** Car camping gear runs $300–$1,000 to outfit a family from scratch, but much of it lasts for years and the per-night cost quickly becomes very low. Backpacking gear is more expensive per person because lightweight materials cost more — budget $500–$800 per adult for a functional starter setup. The good news: a lot of beginner backpacking gear works for car camping too, so the collections overlap. What other differences between backpacking, camping and glamping can you think up?  Let us know in the comments section. ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Backpacking --- ### [3 Best Hiking Day Trips near Brasov](https://momgoescamping.com/day-hikes-near-brasov-romania/) **Published:** August 18, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Nestled in the heart of the Carpathian Mountains, Brasov is known as a gateway to the many natural attractions and cultural wonders of Transylvania. This is one of the most beautiful and famous regions in Europe and it attracts tourists from all over the world thanks to its fascinating history, multicultural flair, impressive natural sceneries and charming village life. Surrounded on three sides by major mountain ranges, Brasov is often used as a base by mountain lovers and outdoor enthusiasts. So, for anyone who wants to get up close and personal with the Carpathians and go on a [hiking trip in Romania](https://www.romanianfriend.com/tours/categories/hiking-trekking-tours-romania) we’ve rounded up a few suggestions for you about mountain ranges and trails you can explore on a day trip from Brasov. ## 1. Hiking in Piatra Craiului Mountains ![Hiking in Magura romania](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Hiking-in-Magura-5.jpg "Hiking in Magura 5 - Mom Goes Camping") Located on the eastern side of the Southern Carpathians and only a few kilometres from Brasov, Piatra Craiului is a mountain range that stands out from all the other massifs in Romania thanks to its unmistakable rocky and narrow limestone ridge. Hikers will be immediately and almost magically attracted by this distinctive and spectacular appearance on the horizon that can be seen from a distance. The range is also home to one of Romania’s largest and most beautiful natural parks, [Piatra Craiului National Park](https://www.pcrai.ro/), so there’s rich wildlife biodiversity hidden in its natural landscapes. Piatra Craiului Mountains are often touted as a top hiking and climbing destination in Romania, featuring a wide variety of hiking, rock climbing spots and mountain bike routes for both seasoned mountaineers and adventurers, as well as beginners or people looking to spend a day out in nature. Hiking trails start from various small villages such as Dambovicioara, Magura, Pestera, Sirnea or Zarnesti and you’ll discover impressive relief forms along the way such as gorges, canyons, and caves. Some of the most popular hiking day trips in Piatra Craiului start from the town of Zarnesti. One such trail begins at Fantana lui Botorog with gentle slopes taking you through the spectacular Zarnesti Gorges where steep and tall limestone walls will isolate you from the world. The Gorges also make for a great rock-climbing spot but you’ll need to find a guide with proper equipment for this. You will continue all the way to Cheia Pisicii and Valea Vladusca to get amazing views of the area in a hike that can be completed in about 6 hours. From the same starting point you can go on a more challenging hike up to [Curmatura Hut](http://www.cabana-curmatura.ro/). This trail is a bit steeper with a positive altitude difference of 1,000m while trekking through dense woodlands until reaching Zanoaga plain. This is a great spot to rest and admire the limeston ridge of Piatra Craiului in the distance. Then you’ll continue your journey following the yellow markings to the Curmatura Hut tucked away in the deep pine forests. The whole trip should take around 3-4 hours. If you want to take on the main ridge of Piatra Craiului mountains and reach its highest point at La Om Peak (2,238m) get ready for an 8-10h trail departing from Pestera village. Due to the length and the intensity of the hike it’s best not to venture without a guide as getting lost, especially as evening comes, can be dangerous. The best way to summit the peak and “ride the ridge” is to stay overnight at Curmatura hut and do a 2-day hiking trip. Once you’ve reached the ridge you’ll enjoy breathtaking views of the area which will be worth the effort. ## 2. Hiking in Bucegi Mountains ![hiking Bucegi Mountains](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Bucegi-Mountains_2.jpg "Bucegi Mountains_2 - Mom Goes Camping") As the easternmost range of the Southern Carpathians, Bucegi Mountains are by far one of the most beloved destinations for hiking and trekking in Romania all year round. For starters, the proximity to Bucharest and Brasov as well as the cable cars from Sinaia and Busteni taking you straight to Bucegi plateau allows for quick and easy access to the massif. Most hiking trails start from the small towns of Busteni or Sinaia where you can grab the cable car and quickly reach the plateau. Make sure you take waiting times into consideration which can be extremely long on weekends or summer seasons. You can, of course, hike up to the plateau on your own – a 4h relatively easy hike starting from Piatra Arsa Hotel. There are many wonders that Mother Nature left in these mountains. Add a variety of well-kept hiking trails that are very suitable for beginners and people with an average physical condition, and you can easily see why Bucegi mountains are a favourite among hikers and mountain lovers. Most tourists and easy hikers will want to see the intriguing rock formations Babele and Sphinx and then head off to [Caraiman Cross](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroes%27_Cross_on_Caraiman_Peak), an impressive monument for WWI soldiers which overlooks Prahova valley from 2,000m altitude. Experienced hikers will want to see the glacial landforms Morarului Valley, Padina Crucii, Malaiesti, and Tiganesti valleys. From Cabana Babele on the plateau you can take a 4h round-trip trail to Omu Peak, the 7th tallest in Romania at 2,505m altitude following the yellow marked trail. Since most hikes are beginner-friendly and many of the attractions are located fairly close to one another, you’ll be able to explore more than one trail in a day trip if you’re in good physical shape. You could also consider staying up in the mountains a couple of nights at a cabin and take your time to explore the mountains. ## 3. Hiking in Fagaras Mountains ![hiking Fagaras Mountains](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Fagaras-Mountains_4.jpg "Fagaras Mountains_4 - Mom Goes Camping") As if a massive rock separates Transylvania from Southern Romania (known as Wallachia) with its peaks spiralling towards the sky, Fagaras Mountains are both the highest mountain range (2544m at Moldoveanu Peak) and one of the coolest hiking destinations in Romania. Fagaras Mountains, also known as the Transylvanian Alps, are both captivating and dangerous – which make them a perfect challenge for experienced hikers visiting Romania. Their impressive altitude and peaks, breathtaking views, rocky trails going on high-altitude crests (where one wrong step can be fatal!) and completely wild scenery will put your hiking skills and physical condition to the test. So you have to plan your hiking trip carefully and preferably take a hiking guide with you because of the risks involved. Fagaras Mountains are tricky, the weather changes fast and there are few refuges or cabins for hikers going deep in the mountains. For a one-day trip you can drive on the Transfagarasan Road (only during July – October; outside this period you’ll take a [cable car](https://balealac.ro/en/balea-lake-balea-waterfall-cablecar/) but expect heavy snow and a risk for avalanches) and get to Balea Lake at 2,000m altitude which serves as a starting point for many hiking trails. From there, you can embark on a 5-to-6-hour hike to the main ridge of Fagaras Mountains, passing splendid valleys, sharp ridges, and glacial lakes along the way. It’s an intense hike that requires you to be in proper physical condition, but the breathtaking views you get to enjoy once you’ve reached the top will make it worth the effort. You can also explore the northern side of Fagaras Mountains and start your journey at Negoiu Chalet on the Serbota summit. There are multiple hiking trails of various lengths and difficulty levels departing from the chalet so you can choose the ones that appeal to you the most when you’re there, also taking into account weather conditions. If you want to summit the highest peak in Romania, Moldoveanu at 2,544m altitude, you’ll need to plan a 3-day hiking trip. Starting from Balea Lake to Podragu Cabin (6h), and the next day an 8-9h round-trip to the peak and back to the cabin. This trail has a high difficulty level, with some very dangerous sections, so only experienced hikers should consider it, or those going with a guide who can help them. ## Know Before You Go… So there’s no shortage of hiking trails you can do in Romania’s beautiful Carpathian Mountains, and Brasov is definitely a great place to set up a base for that. But we’ve seen two reasons why people planning to go [hiking in Romania](https://www.romanianfriend.com/blog/hiking-guide-romania-transylvania) don’t have an enjoyable experience. The first reason is people underestimate the wilderness of Romania’s mountains – home to the largest brown bear population in Europe and to many other wildlife – which make close encounters very likely. The second is people overestimate the hiking infrastructure, expecting maps, info points, refuges and manned cabins like in other parts of Europe – which is definitely not the case in Romania. Safety should be the highest priority on a hiking trip so before you venture out on any of these trails make sure you do proper research or consider hiring an experienced hiking guide who can take the burden of planning off your shoulders. Not only will this help you save time, but guides also make for excellent travel companions who can find the best spots, offer accurate information about the places you visit, and deliver a superior hiking experience – while you enjoy your trip and the beautiful views Romania’s Carpathian Mountains offer. **Want to camp in Romania? Read: [Wild Camping Laws of Every European Country](https://momgoescamping.com/wild-camping-laws-europe/)** ![Marius Iliescu](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Marius.jpg "Marius - Mom Goes Camping") *Marius Iliescu is the founder of* [*Romanian Friend*](https://www.romanianfriend.com/)*: a one-stop shop website with tours, practical info and travel inspiration for those planning to visit Romania. His mission is to make sure travellers experience the best of his country while supporting local communities through responsible and inclusive tourism.* ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Backpacking --- ### [Where to Go Camping? 7 Steps to Help You Decide](https://momgoescamping.com/where-to-go-camping/) **Published:** December 8, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** You want to go camping but aren’t sure where to go? Here are some steps to help you choose the perfect destination for your style of camping and budget. **New to camping? Then you want my Camping Cheat Sheets! From guyline knots to hanging a bear bag, they contain loads of essential info. Best of all, they are PRINTABLE so you can take them with  you.** [![camping cheat sheets](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/interior-pages-1024x356.jpg "interior pages - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets) **[Click to buy them!](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** --- ## 1. Consider Climate Depending on [when you go camping](https://momgoescamping.com/when-to-go-camping), the climate of some destinations may be better than others.  For example, desert locations like Death Valley are too hot for most campers in summer but a perfect getaway in colder months. In summer, mountain camping is a way to escape urban heat.  But you’ll need to be [prepared for snow and cold temperatures](https://momgoescamping.com/how-cold-is-too-cold-for-tent-camping/) if you go mountain camping in early spring or late fall. [![Death valley national park sign extreme heat](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/death-valley-too-hot.jpg "death valley too hot - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/death-valley-too-hot.jpg)Death Valley is too hot for most visitors in summer ## 2. Bucket List Destination? Do you have a bucket list destination, like the Grand Canyon, Glacier, Yosemite, or Yellowstone?  If you have had a destination on your list, now might be the time to go visit. ## 3. Will It Be Crowded? A lot of popular camping destinations get VERY crowded in summer.  Crowds not only can ruin your interaction with nature, but mean that campgrounds and amenities cost more.  Some hiking trails have limited access during peak months and you’d have to [plan your trip well in advance](https://momgoescamping.com/how-far-advance-plan-camping-trip/). If you want to avoid the crowds, then you might need to choose a new destination or plan the trip for the off season. **Most-visited National Parks in 2022:** 1. **Great Smoky Mountains National Park:** 12.94 million 2. **Grand Canyon National Park:** 4.73 million 3. **Zion National Park:** 4.69 million 4. **Rocky Mountain National Park:** 4.30 million 5. **Acadia National Park:** 3.97 million 6. **Yosemite National Park:** 3.67 million 7. **Yellowstone National Park:** 3.29 million 8. **Joshua Tree National Park:** 3.06 million 9. **Cuyahoga Valley National Park:** 2.913 million 10. **Glacier National Park:** 2.908 million [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/blue-ridge-parkway.jpg "blue ridge parkway - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/blue-ridge-parkway.jpg)Blue Ridge Parkway is the most visited National Park site with $1571 million visits in 2022 Image credit: “[Grandfather Mountain on the Blue Ridge P](https://www.flickr.com/photos/gocardusa/1715794688/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [Smart Destinations](https://www.flickr.com/people/gocardusa/) ## 4. Budget Your budget will affect where you can go camping.  If you are on a low budget, you’ll need to go somewhere close to home and avoid popular destinations during the peak season.  If you have a higher budget, you can travel further and camp near major scenic areas. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/expensive-camping-trip-to-switzerland.jpg "expensive camping trip to switzerland - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/expensive-camping-trip-to-switzerland.jpg)As much as youd love to go a camping trip to Switzerland might never be in your budget ## 5. How Far to Travel Decide how far you are willing to travel to get to the climate and destination you want. Your budget will affect this decision as well. Most campers choose to camp somewhere close to home as a way to reduce costs.  Sticking close to home also makes it easier to change your plans last-minute or go on impromptu camping trips.  When campers go further, they make a road trip of it and camp along the way. If you choose to fly, note that [flying with camping gear](https://momgoescamping.com/flying-backpacking-gear-airplane/) has restrictions. You may need to get items like bear spray or stove fuel upon arrival. ## 6. Pinpoint Camping Destinations Now it’s time to start scouting out destinations. 1. Open Google maps and turn on “Terrain.” You can also download a topographic map of your area. 2. Use the “Measure distance” tool. Draw a line out for how far you are willing to travel. If you are using a downloaded or paper map, draw a circle radius. 3. Do you see any National or State parks in your search area? What about public lands? Look for areas of dense green, lakes or other natural features. 4. Zoom in. Click on locations to get more info. You might get lucky and have multiple options in your radius. If not, you may need to expand your travel radius. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/radius-where-to-go-camping-2.jpg "radius where to go camping 2 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/radius-where-to-go-camping-2.jpg)Draw a radius of how far you are willing to travel for camping[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/zoomed-in-where-to-go-camping.jpg "zoomed in where to go camping - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/zoomed-in-where-to-go-camping.jpg)Zoom in and click on natural areas in your search radius Images: “Map data ©2023Google” ## 7. Selecting a Campground Once you have your camping destination, it’s time to start looking for campgrounds in the area.  You’ll want to look at the camp’s proximity to your itinerary.  Also decide which amenities you need, such as: potable water, showers, organized activities or a restaurant at camp. **Read Next**: [**How to Choose a Campground**](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-choose-campground/) --- ###### Resources: <https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/most-visited-us-national-park-sites-2022/index.html> <https://www.nps.gov/subjects/socialscience/visitor-use-statistics.htm> ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Backpacking --- ### [When to Go Camping in the USA?  ](https://momgoescamping.com/when-to-go-camping/) **Published:** December 8, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Are you [planning a camping trip](https://momgoescamping.com/first-time-tent-camping/) but not sure when to go? Depending on [where you are going](https://momgoescamping.com/where-to-go-camping/)**,** the experience you want and your gear, some seasons are better for camping than others. ## Quick Answer: **The best time to go camping is early fall** when the weather in most popular camping destinations is mild and there are fewer crowds and mosquitos. There are some exceptions though.  Desert and arid locations like Joshua Tree National Park or the Grand Canyon are best visited in spring and fall.  If you have the right gear, camping in the shoulder seasons or winter allows you to enjoy camping without the crowds. ## Best Time for Camping in National Parks: - **Great Smoky Mountains National Park:** Summer and early fall; expect crowds during the peak summer months and fall weekends. - **Grand Canyon National Park:** March through May and September through November for cooler temperatures and fewer crowds. - **Zion National Park:**May through September has the best weather conditions; the park is less crowded in fall and spring but temperatures can drop to freezing. - **Rocky Mountain National Park:** June through September; snow is likely during other times of the year. - **Acadia National Park:** Campgrounds in Acadia open in May and close in October. Off-season and winter camping are not allowed in the park. - **Yosemite National Park:**The weather is best from May to September, but these are the most crowded months where the park receives 75% of its visitors. Yosemite is covered in snow from November to May. - **Yellowstone National Park:**Roads in Yellowstone start opening in April. Temperatures are warm enough for camping from June. In October, roads start closing again. Most services are closed or inaccessible in winter. - **Joshua Tree National Park:** Spring and fall have the best temperatures for camping in Joshua.  Summer temps get to over 100°F and temps can dip to freezing on winter nights. - **Cuyahoga Valley National Park:** Spring and summer have the best temperatures for camping in Cuyahoga. Fall is often rainy and temps can drop to freezing at night. Winter gets a lot of snow from the lake effect. - **Glacier National Park:**The end of June to October is the best time to visit Glacier. Expect large crowds in the summer. ## What Season Is Best for Camping? While it is possible to go camping in any season, most people will go in summer or early fall. This is when the nighttime temperatures are mild in most locations, so you don’t need much special gear.  If you want to camp in forests or mountains in the spring or late fall, you’ll need gear for cold weather.  A lot of campgrounds are closed in winter. ### Spring #### Pros: Camping in spring is wonderful because there aren’t many crowds or bugs yet.  In forests, you can see new buds pushing through the earth. On mountains, you can see animal tracks in the remaining snow.  In deserts, the temperatures haven’t skyrocketed yet. #### Cons: The temperatures in spring can suddenly and drop.  In forests and mountains, there are heavy rains and lots of mud.  If you end up wet, evaporative heat loss will leave you very cold! You really need to be prepared for spring camping with **good rain gear.** You will likely need a **shelter** to protect against wind and rain.  The days are still short in spring.  It takes skill to **make a campfire in rainy, wet weather.** As for safety, camping in spring can be dangerous.  Bears coming out of hibernation can be aggressive.  Rains can cause flash floods and mudslides.  You might not be able to pass swollen streams and rivers. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/camping-in-death-valley-in-spring.jpg "camping in death valley in spring - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/camping-in-death-valley-in-spring.jpg)Mild temperatures make spring the perfect time for camping in Death Valley “[Inside the tent in Homestake Dry Camp](https://www.flickr.com/photos/daveynin/26508406060/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [daveynin](https://www.flickr.com/people/daveynin/) --- ### Summer #### Pros: Summer is the most popular season for camping.  The cooler temperatures in forests and the mountains offer a nice break from urban heat waves. Most campers won’t need specialized equipment for camping in summer and can get away with cheap gear.  The foliage is in full bloom and it’s warm enough for activities like swimming and other nature water play. #### Cons: Because summer is so popular for camping, it can get crowded. Campgrounds near major National Parks get booked well in advance and prices increase during the peak season. If camping in lower elevations, the temperatures can make it too hot to do activities like hiking.  Deserts are so hot that they are unsafe to visit during the day. Summer also means the peak of tick season and there will likely be lots of mosquitoes to deal with. In some areas, you wildfires may cause you to cancel your trip. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/summer-camping-in-yosemite.jpg "summer camping in yosemite - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/summer-camping-in-yosemite.jpg)Choose a backcountry campsites in Yosemite in summer to avoid the crowds Image credit: “[Camping in the High Sierras. Yosemite Na](https://www.flickr.com/photos/paxson_woelber/26436667192/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Paxson Woelber](https://www.flickr.com/people/paxson_woelber/) --- ### Fall #### Pros: For most, fall is the best time to go camping.  There are fewer crowds once the school break ends, so prices go down. The climate in fall is ideal for camping in most destinations.  The deserts aren’t too hot, forests are pleasant, and mountains not so cold that you need expensive gear.  Campers will especially enjoy the changing colors of foliage. #### Cons: The days are shorter in fall, so you won’t have as much time for activities like hiking or scenic drives.  The weather can get cold in forests and mountains, so you need to be prepared for rain, storms and snow. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/camping-in-fall.jpg "camping in fall - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/camping-in-fall.jpg)Fall camping at Wallace State Park Missouri means lots of leaves and cold nights Image credit: “[IMG\_4020](https://www.flickr.com/photos/speakingofhistory/6251811609/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [eric.langhorst](https://www.flickr.com/people/speakingofhistory/) --- ### Winter #### Pros: No matter where you go camping in winter, it’s unlikely that you will encounter crowds.  You’ll have popular destinations all to yourself for an intimate encounter with nature.  The fresh snowfall can create a breathtaking winter wonderland.  Deserts locations are ideal to visit during winter. If you live somewhere with pollution, the crisp air will help with breathing problems. #### Cons: **Winter camping** has a very high learning curve.  If you don’t have the **right winter gear**, such as a **tent heater** or a **serious mitten system**, you can end up miserable.  The days are very short, which can be lonely and boring at night. You’ll likely need a good vehicle for winter camping.  Road closures are common and you’ll need to be prepared in case you get stuck for days. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/grand-canyon-campground-in-winter.jpg "grand canyon campground in winter - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/grand-canyon-campground-in-winter.jpg)*Grand Canyons Mather Campground in winter the camp is open year round but has no hookups* Image credit:”[Grand Canyon Mather Campground – Winter](https://www.flickr.com/photos/grand_canyon_nps/33572880818/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Grand Canyon NPS](https://www.flickr.com/people/grand_canyon_nps/) --- ## What Is the Busiest Time for Camping? Camping has seen a huge increase in popularity in recent years. Now, many camping destinations in the USA are notoriously crowded.   Glacier National Parks Service even had to make a webpage about [dealing with crowds](https://www.nps.gov/glac/planyourvisit/crowds.htm)! **The busiest times for camping are:** - Summer break: - School holidays - Labor Day and Memorial Day weekends If you don’t like crowds, then avoid these times or choose **lesser-known destinations**. If you have to go camping during these times and are visiting a popular destination, then you’ll need to make reservations or get permits well in advance. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/crowds-at-national-park.jpg "crowds at national park - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/crowds-at-national-park.jpg)Crowds waiting for sunset view at Arches National Park Image credit: “[Waiting for Sunset](https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernd_thaller/38623790635/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Bernd Thaller](https://www.flickr.com/people/bernd_thaller/) ## Wildlife Viewing If you want to see wildlife on your camping trip, then you’ll need to factor in the peak seasons.  For example, November, December, March and April are the best months for whale watching in Redwood National Park. If you want to see eagles in the Pacific Northwest, plan your camping trip for November to March. For elephant seals in Point Reyes National Seashore, you’ll want to go in winter. --- ## Want essential camping in PRINTABLE format? **Then you need my Camping Cheat Sheets.** The manual has 42 pages crammed with illustrated guides about everything from campfire cooking to wilderness first aid. [![camping cheat sheets](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/interior-pages.jpg "interior pages - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets/guylines) **And because you made it to the end of this post, I’ll even give you 50% off  😀** [**Get Your Copy for 50% Off Here**](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets/guylines) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Backpacking --- ### [How to Pitch Any Tent (Step-by-Step Instructions with Pictures)](https://momgoescamping.com/how-pitch-tent-instructions/) **Published:** December 13, 2024 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Knowing how to pitch a tent is the most basic skill you need for camping. While there are a lot of different [types of tents](https://momgoescamping.com/types-camping-tents-with-photos/), all of them can be pitched with these simple instructions. **Important: Set up your tent BEFORE you go camping!**  You don’t want to set up a tent for the first time at camp, especially if it’s raining or windy. Even if you know how to pitch the tent, still check it before your trip in case anything is missing or broken. ## 1. Find a Good Spot to Pitch Campgrounds usually have dedicated areas for pitching your tent.  But, if you are wild backcountry camping, you’ll need to find a spot to pitch.  The three things you need to consider are: - **Safety:** Avoid pitching by hazards such as dead tree branches and steep slopes. - **Comfort**: Such as choosing a spot with shade and natural wind breaks - **Leave No Trace:** This means not having a negative impact on the environment or bothering other campers. **For more info, read: [How to Choose a Backcountry Campsite](https://momgoescamping.com/choose-backcountry-campsite/)** [![how to choose campsite](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/choose-backcountry-campsite-small.jpg "choose backcountry campsite small - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/choose-backcountry-campsite-small.jpg) --- ## 2. Check Ground It’s insanely annoying to crawl into your sleeping bag at night only to realize that the ground is sloped.  Or that there’s a big rock right under your back. Avoid this by checking the ground before pitching. ![camping on uneven ground](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/camping-on-uneven-ground-1024x512.jpg) If you are camping at a paid campground, the campsites are probably nice and level.  But, if you are wild camping or backpacking, you’ll quickly realize how difficult it can be to find level ground for pitching your tent. Worst of all, a campsite can appear to be level.  But, then you lay down to sleep only to realize the ground is actually sloped. Camping on a uneven ground can be an absolute nightmare.  Obviously it’s uncomfortable. And, because sleeping bags are slippery, you are almost guaranteed to slide off of your sleeping pad.  Since your sleeping pad is important for warmth, you might wake up at 4am somehow in the corner of the tent and shivering your butt off (speaking from experience here :)). After camping on a slanted surface multiple times, I’ve learned to use these tricks to make sure my campsite is actually flat and level.  It only takes an extra minute or two but really improves your camping experience.  And, if you really can’t find even ground, there are some tricks to make sleeping more comfortable. ## How to Find a Level Campsite for Pitching Your Tent ### 1. Lay On the Ground and Spread Your Arms Lay the tent on the ground where you are thinking of pitching it.  Then lay on top of this (my tent has a ground sheet, so I just lay on top of that). Spread your arms and legs out, almost like you are making a snow angel.  This will give you a feel for whether the ground is actually level.  It also helps you locate any annoying rocks/bumpy areas so you can level those out before pitching. ### 2. The Pole + Water Bottle Trick [![level campsite water bottle trick](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/level-campsite-water-bottle-trick.jpg "level campsite water bottle trick - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/level-campsite-water-bottle-trick.jpg) This method for finding a level campsite is good if you don’t feel like laying on the ground (such as if it’s raining).  You basically make a level tool out of your water bottle. - Put a trekking pole on the ground. - Put a water bottle right next to the trekking pole. - Look where the air bubble in the water bottle is. - If the bubble is in the middle of the water bottle, the ground is level. ## What If You Can’t Find a Level Campsite? A big mistake that a lot of campers make is sleeping with their head upwards.  While this is certainly better than sleeping with your head down the slope, it is not comfortable.  You’ll slowly slide down your sleeping pad the entire night. Instead, sleep *parallel* to the slope.  Use whatever you have (jacket, backpack, etc.) to prop up your sleeping pad so you end up with a flat sleeping surface. If you really have to sleep with your head upwards, then use this trick: - Roll up a shirt, jacket, etc. - Put the roll underneath your sleeping pad beneath your hip. - This creates a bump which prevents you from sliding down. Unfortunately, this trick only works well if you have a foam pad or a self-inflating pad.  It does not work well with thicker air pads and definitely doesn’t work with air mattresses. [![how to sleep on a sloped campsite](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/how-to-sleep-on-a-sloped-campsite.jpg "how to sleep on a sloped campsite - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/how-to-sleep-on-a-sloped-campsite.jpg) --- ## 3. Lay Out Tent - **Tents with groundsheets:** Lay the groundsheet out first. Then put the tent on top of the groundsheet. - **Single layer tents:** Lay the tent where you want to pitch. - **Two layer tents:** Lay just the *inner mesh* tent where you want to pitch. You don’t need the fly yet. - **Tips:** - Make sure the door is facing the right direction before you proceed. - If it is windy, stake out a few corners of your tent. You can adjust the stakes later on. --- ## 4. Assemble and Attach Poles ### Tents with Pole Sleeves First assemble the poles. Slide the poles through their corresponding sleeves. Once they are all the way through, attach the ends of the poles to the corresponding corners/edges of the tent.  More on that below. [![tent with pole sleeves](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/tent-with-pole-sleeves.jpg "tent with pole sleeves - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/tent-with-pole-sleeves.jpg) ### Tents with Hooks or Clips First assemble the poles.  Put the ends of the poles in their corresponding corners/edges. You may need someone to hold the poles up while you do this. With the poles in their upright position, attach the CENTER hooks over the poles first. Then attach the remaining hooks. [![pitching two layer tent with clips](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/setting-up-two-layer-tent.jpg "setting up two layer tent - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/setting-up-two-layer-tent.jpg) [![pitching two layer tent with clips](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/pitching-tent-step-2.jpg "pitching tent step 2 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/pitching-tent-step-2.jpg) [![pitching a two layer tent with clips steps](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/pitching-tent-step-3.jpg "pitching tent step 3 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/pitching-tent-step-3.jpg) ### To Attach Poles to Corners: #### **Grommets:** Most modern tents have grommets (metal holes) on their corners.  Simply insert the pole end into the grommet.  In the picture below, the pole is going through the inner tent grommet *and* the groundsheet grommet. [![tent with grommets for poles](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/tent-with-grommets.jpg "tent with grommets - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/tent-with-grommets.jpg) #### **Ring and Pin System:** Some tents still use the old “ring and pin” system. The pin does NOT go into the ground. Insert the pin inside the hollow end of the pole. [![pitching tent with ring and pin system](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/pole-and-pin-tent-system.jpg "pole and pin tent system - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/pole-and-pin-tent-system.jpg) --- ## 5. Put On Rain Fly If you have a single-layer tent, then skip this step. - Find the door on the tent fly. - Toss the fly over the inner tent and pole structure so the door is in the right position. - Attach the fly. Most modern tents have buckles for attaching the fly to the corners.  Some have Velcro wraps underneath so you can connect the fly to the poles. ![tent with fly attached](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/tent-with-fly-attached.jpg "tent with fly attached - Mom Goes Camping")Tent with fly attached This one has buckles for attaching the fly to the inner tent --- ## 6. Stake Out Tent Stake out corners first. Then stake out any walls and vestibules.  If you are pitching in sand, snow, loose soil or difficult conditions, you may need to use one of the alternative staking methods shown below. **Also Read: [How to Stake Out a Tent in Any Condition](https://momgoescamping.com/how-stake-out-tent-instructions/)** [![how to stake a tent in sand or snow](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/how-to-stake-tent-sand-snow.jpg "how to stake tent sand snow - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/how-to-stake-tent-sand-snow.jpg) --- ## 7. Tie Out Tent Guylines Tent guylines add structure and support to the tent.   To get good tension on the guylines, use an adjustable knot like the tautline hitch.  See [instructions for tying out tent guylines](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-tie-tent-guylines-illustrated-instructions/) here. [![tie out tent guylines with adjustable tension tautline hitch method](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/tie-out-tent-guylines.jpg "tie out tent guylines - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/tie-out-tent-guylines.jpg) --- ## 8. Open Vents If your tent has vents, open them.  This will help prevent condensation in the tent. **Also read: [How to Prevent Tent Condensation](https://momgoescamping.com/tent-condensation/)** --- [**Get my full color E-book :  Backpacking Dehydrator Meals**](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/) meals [![backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/backpacking-dehydrator-recipes-ebook-244x300.jpg "backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/) --- Image credits: “[DSC00175.JPG](https://www.flickr.com/photos/rjl20/118512850/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [RJL20](https://www.flickr.com/people/rjl20/), “[DSC00174.JPG](https://www.flickr.com/photos/rjl20/118512695/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [RJL20](https://www.flickr.com/people/rjl20/), “[DSC00168.JPG](https://www.flickr.com/photos/rjl20/118512164/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [RJL20](https://www.flickr.com/people/rjl20/), “[DSC00160.JPG](https://www.flickr.com/photos/rjl20/118511245/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [RJL20](https://www.flickr.com/people/rjl20/), “[Pitching the tent](https://www.flickr.com/photos/stevewhite/613467389/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [echobase\_2000](https://www.flickr.com/people/stevewhite/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Backpacking --- ### [The 9 Most Common Types of Ticks (with Pictures)](https://momgoescamping.com/tick-types-pictures/) **Published:** May 19, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** There are hundreds of species of ticks and at least 90 of them can be found in the United States.  Luckily, not all of types of ticks transmit Lyme disease.  In the USA, only deer ticks and western blacklegged ticks transmit Lyme. This doesn’t mean you are in the clear if bitten by a different type of tick.  Though not nearly as common as Lyme, some ticks can spread other diseases like rocky mountain spotted fever or Anaplasmosis. ## Why You Should Learn to Identify Common Ticks It’s good to be able to identify the ticks commonly found in your region.  For starters, you’ll be less likely to freak out about possibly getting Lyme if you know that the species isn’t a carrier.  And, if you do have symptoms after being bit by a tick, you’ll be able to  narrow down which tick disease you may have based on the species. Remember, if you can get a tick off within the first 24 hours of it biting, the chances of getting a disease are very slim.  But it’s important that you remove the tick properly without squeezing or irritating it (or it might regurgitate its stomach contents into your skin!). **For more, read:** - [How to Remove a Tick](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-remove-tick/) - [Best Tick Removal Tools for Humans](https://momgoescamping.com/tick-removal-tools-humans/) - [Pictures of Lyme disease rashes (including atypical rashes)](https://momgoescamping.com/lyme-disease-rash-photos/) ## The Most Common Types of Ticks (with Pictures) ### 1. Deer Tick (*Ixodes scapularis*) Also called the blacklegged tick, this is one of the most common types of ticks encountered in the USA.  It is also responsible for most cases of Lyme disease and can carry numerous other diseases as well.   The females are fairly easy to ID because of their red color, but the males can easily be mistaken for other types of ticks. - **Where Found:** Entire Eastern half of the USA - **Can transmit:** Anaplasmosis, Babesiosis, Borrelia mayonii, Borrelia miyamotoi, Lyme disease, Powassan disease **Pictures:** ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/deer-tick-photos-male-female-engorged-2.jpg "deer tick photos male female engorged 2 - Mom Goes Camping")Top L and R pictures are of a female deer tick Bottom L picture is a male deer tick and bottom R is an engorged deer tick[![deer tick adult female, adult male and nymph](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/deer-tick-adult-female-adult-male-female-nymph..jpg "deer tick adult female, adult male, & female nymph. - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/deer-tick-adult-female-adult-male-female-nymph..jpg)From L to R Adult female adult male and female nymph --- ### 2. Western Blacklegged Tick (*Ixodes pacificus*) This is the other type of tick which can transmit Lyme disease.  They look a lot like deer ticks but these are only found in the Western Coast of the USA whereas deer ticks are found only in the Central and Eastern regions. - **Where Found:** Pacific Coast, particularly Northern California - **Can transmit:** Anaplasmosis, Lyme disease **Pictures:** ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Ixodes-pacificus-female.jpg "Ixodes pacificus female - Mom Goes Camping")Ixodes pacificus female above![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Western-black-legged-ticks-Ixodes-pacificus-Male-above-female-below.jpg "Western black-legged ticks (Ixodes pacificus) Male above, female below - Mom Goes Camping")Male is above and female is below --- ### 3. American Dog tick (*Dermacentor variabilis*) The dog tick is another very common species of tick in the USA.  They don’t transmit Lyme disease though.  It’s fairly easy to recognize the females from the light “sheath” around their head. However, it’s easy to mistake male dog ticks for other species.  Note the rigid bumps around the outside of the body – they are called “festoons” and are one way to ID tick species. - **Where Found:** East of Rocky Mountains and Pacific Coast - **Can transmit:** Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever (RMSF), Tularemia **Pictures:** ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Dermacentor-variabilis-female-3-ND.jpg "Dermacentor variabilis female 3 ND - Mom Goes Camping")Female American dog tick above![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/male-american-dog-ticks.jpg "male american dog ticks - Mom Goes Camping")Male American dog ticks above Note the two black lines on their lower back --- ### 4. Lone Star Tick (*Amblyomma americanum)* The female lone star tick is easy to identify because of the dot on the middle of its back.  Males are harder to identify and can be easily confused with brown dog ticks. - **Where Found:** South, most of Northeast, and lower parts of the Midwest - **Can transmit:** Ehrichiosis, Heartland virus, Southern Tick-Associated Rash Illness (STARI), Tularemia **Pictures:** ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/lone-star-tick-male.jpg "lone star tick male - Mom Goes Camping")Male lone star tick above![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/female-lone-star-tick.jpg "female lone star tick - Mom Goes Camping")Female lone star tick above easy to ID from the spot in its back --- ### 5. Brown dog tick (*Rhipicephalus sanguineus*) These ticks are found throughout the USA. They are common on dogs but rarely bite humans.  Even when they do bite, they rarely transmit disease. - **Where Found:** Entire USA (and worldwide) - **Can transmit:** Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever (RMSF) **Pictures:** ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Rhipicephalus-sanguineus-male-female-brown-dog-tick.jpg "Rhipicephalus sanguineus male female brown dog tick - Mom Goes Camping")Female L and male R ![Rhipicephalus sanguineus ticks](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Rhipicephalus-sanguineus-1.jpg "Rhipicephalus sanguineus 1 - Mom Goes Camping") --- ### 6. Rocky Mountain Wood Tick (*Dermacentor andersoni*) The Rocky Mountain wood tick can look a lot like dog ticks (they are in the same genus). Dog ticks are darker color whereas Rock Mountain wood ticks have a reddish tint to them. - **Where Found:** Around the Rocky Mountains, at high elevations - **Can transmit:** Colorado tick fever, Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever (RMSF), Tularemia, Anaplasmosis, tick paralysis **Pictures:** [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/dermacentor-andersoni-female-and-male.jpg "dermacentor andersoni female and male - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/dermacentor-andersoni-female-and-male.jpg)Female L and male R --- ### 7. Gulf Coast tick (*Amblyomma maculatum*) These types of ticks rarely spread disease.  They aren’t very common either but their range has started to spread outside of the Gulf Coast area.  It’s easy to mistake the male Gulf Coast tick for a male dog tick, but the patterns are slightly different.  A high percentage of these ticks have the *Rickettsia parkeri* pathogen so risk of infection is high if you get bit. - **Where Found:** Gulf Coast area, including Florida, the Carolinas, Alabama and Mississippi - **Can transmit:** Rickettsia parkeri rickettsiosis **Pictures:** [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Amblyomma-maculatum.jpg "Amblyomma maculatum - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Amblyomma-maculatum.jpg)Engorged Lfemale M and male R Gulf Coast ticks[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Amblyomma-maculatum-male.jpg "Amblyomma maculatum male - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Amblyomma-maculatum-male.jpg)Notice the cool patterns on the back of the male Gulf Coast tick --- ### 8. Pacific Coast tick (*Dermacentor occidentalis*) This tick species is almost exclusively found in California and usually doesn’t bite humans (it prefers cattle).  However, upwards of 11% of females may carry Rocky Mountain spotted fever bacteria, so caution needs to be taken if you get bit by this tick. - **Range:** Most of California and parts of Oregon and Arizona - **Can transmit:**  364D rickettsiosis,  *Rocky Mountain spotted fever,* *Tularemia* **Pictures:** [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Dermacentor-occidentalis-females-and-male.jpg "Dermacentor occidentalis females and male - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Dermacentor-occidentalis-females-and-male.jpg)Females L and M male R --- ### 9. Groundhog tick (*Ixodes cookei)* Groundhog ticks look almost identifcal to deer ticks.  The only way to really tell the difference is to look at the shape of the “shield” on the back.  Only a professional would probably be able to tell the difference.  Groundhog ticks Morphologically, *Ixodes cookei* closely resembles the black-legged tick, but the shape of its shield generally enables us to differentiate it from *Ixodes scapularis*: its shield is lozenge-shaped whereas that of *Ixodes scapularis* is oval. - **Where found:** Entire Eastern half of the USA - **Can transmit:** Powassan disease - **Pictures:** See photos [here](https://www.inspq.qc.ca/en/ixodes-cookei-or-groundhog-tick) --- ## Difference between Larva, Nymph and Adult Ticks [![tick life stages larva nymph adult](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/tick-stages.jpg "tick stages - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/tick-stages.jpg) All types of ticks go through the same life cycle: they start as eggs (E) and then go into the larval stage (L).  Larvae ticks are sometimesm called “seed ticks” because they look like tiny seeds.  They only have 6 legs instead of 8 at this stage.  Because they are so small, larvae ticks are very difficult to remove. The next stages are nymph (N) and adult.  The picture shows an adult female (F) and an adult male (M). After hatching from eggs, ticks must feed before moving onto the next stage. The larvae feed before turning into nymphs, the nymphs feed before turning into adults and the adult female feeds before laying eggs. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Western-black-legged-ticks-Ixodes-pacificus-males.jpg "Western black-legged ticks (Ixodes pacificus) males - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Western-black-legged-ticks-Ixodes-pacificus-males.jpg)It is very difficult to identify ticks in the larva or nymph stages These are Ixodes pacificus --- ###### Sources: <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5877023/> <https://www.ticklab.org/blog/2020/12/01/the-tick-lifecycle/>, <https://europepmc.org/article/med/10925803> <https://bioone.org/journals/southwestern-entomologist/volume-42/issue-1/059.042.0101/Pictorial-Key-for-Identification-of-Immature-Stages-of-Common-Ixodid/10.3958/059.042.0101.short> <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3183783/> https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0195561691500188 <https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1020&context=byuscib> ###### Image credits: “[Deer Tick (Ixodes scapularis) ♀](https://www.flickr.com/photos/goshzilla/1816798738/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Goshzilla – Dann](https://www.flickr.com/people/goshzilla/) “[Tick Queue](https://www.flickr.com/photos/35142635@N05/7266403506/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [S. 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Tick (Dermacentor variabili](https://www.flickr.com/photos/goshzilla/3442398784/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Goshzilla – Dann](https://www.flickr.com/people/goshzilla/) “[male American Dog Tick – Dermacentor va](https://www.flickr.com/photos/tmurray74/51227477669/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [tcmurray74](https://www.flickr.com/people/tmurray74/) “[Brown dog tick](https://www.flickr.com/photos/afpmb/15348105101/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Armed Forces Pest Management Board](https://www.flickr.com/people/afpmb/) “[Rhipicephalus sanguineus](https://www.flickr.com/photos/fturmog/6797070859/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [fturmog](https://www.flickr.com/people/fturmog/) “[Gulf Coast Tick](https://www.flickr.com/photos/treegrow/37451678052/)” ([CC BY 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[Life-cycle-of-ixodid-tick](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Life-cycle-of-ixodid-tick.jpg), by [Daktaridudu](https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Daktaridudu&action=edit&redlink=1), [Creative Commons](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Creative_Commons) [Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.en) license. ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety **Tags:** Lyme disease, tick --- ### [Debunked: Sleeping Naked in a Sleeping Bag Is Warmer](https://momgoescamping.com/naked-sleeping-bag-warmer/) **Published:** January 31, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** One myth that I constantly hear is that it is warmer to sleep naked in a sleeping bag than in pajamas. Here’s the definitive answer and why – in some situations – sleeping naked might actually feel warmer. ## Quick Answer: Sleeping naked in a sleeping bag is *not* warmer.  The more insulation you have on your body, the warmer you will be. The main exception to this rule is if you are wearing cotton pajamas and they get wet, such as from sweat.  Being wet makes you feel cold from evaporative heat loss.  In this case, it might be warmer to sleep naked. ## Sleeping in Clothes Is Warmer As logic would dictate, wearing clothes in a sleeping bag will make you warmer.  The more clothes you have on your body, the more your body will be able to trap heat. In cold weather, campers and backpackers often wear thick pajamas or their puffy jackets to stay warm at night.  This isn’t as effective as using a sleeping bag which is truly rated for cold temperatures, but good pajamas can [add a few degrees of warmth to your sleeping bags](https://momgoescamping.com/warmer-sleeping-bag/) without having to buy a warmer bag. **Also read:** [Pro tips for camping in snow and cold weather](https://momgoescamping.com/winter-camping/) ## But Sleeping Naked Is Warmer than Sleeping in Wet Clothing There is one main situation where sleeping naked in a sleeping bag might actually be warmer.  This is if you are wearing cotton clothing and it gets wet. When cotton gets wet, its fibers compress and sit directly against your skin.  Cotton won’t provide any insulation when wet.  Even worse, your body heat will cause the water in the cotton to evaporate, which results in evaporative heat loss.  This is why backpackers often say “cotton kills.” It doesn’t take a lot of moisture to make you feel cold.  This is why you should always have a dedicated pair of pajamas to wear camping.  Do *not* wear the same clothes you wore during the day as pajamas, since they are probably slightly damp from sweat. **Other Situations Where Sleeping Naked Might Be Warmer** - You are wearing so many clothes that your sleeping bag insulation ends up getting compressed - Your clothes are very tight and restrict blood flow **Also read:** I[s it okay to wear cotton when hiking?](https://momgoescamping.com/is-it-okay-to-wear-cotton-hiking/) ## The Layering Principle Applies to Sleeping Too You will need to follow the layering principle when sleeping in a tent too.  No, you don’t wear three layers to sleep! **Rather…** - **Pajamas = base layer** - **Sleeping bag = mid layer** - **Tent = shell layer** Remember that **the main purpose of the base layer is *not* to keep your warm. Instead, it is supposed to wick sweat and moisture away from your body.** The mid layer, also called the insulation layer, is what actually keeps you warm. And the shell layer keeps you warm by protecting you from wind and moisture. ### Pajama Material Matters We’ve established that your pajamas are the base layer of your sleep setup.  And, just like with hiking base layers, material matters. You need to choose pajamas which will wick moisture away from your body.   Synthetics are great for this.  Merino wool pajamas are also great because they are comfortable to sleep in and provide some insulation as well, even when wet. **If you must wear cotton pajamas when camping…** Make sure you don’t overheat and start sweating.  Don’t zip your sleeping bag up right away.  Instead, wait several minutes to let your body adjust.  If you still feel cold, partially zip up the sleeping bag and wait a few more minutes. On cold nights, it’s hard to have the willpower not to zip up right away though.  That’s why it’s better to just invest in some good pajamas. **Also read:** - [Is Merino wool worth the cost?](https://momgoescamping.com/is-merino-wool-worth-it/) - [Best Merino wool base layers for women](https://momgoescamping.com/merino-wool-base-layers-women/) ## Where Did the Sleeping Naked Myth Come From? The myth that it’s warmer to sleep naked when camping has been around for a long time.  I found a reference to it in an [old issue of Outside magazine](https://www.outsideonline.com/magazine-issues/outside-magazine-jan-1996/) from 1996, but apparently a lot of people were told this in the Scouts long before this. My guess is that this myth was started by a guy who was camping with a female friend. 😉 But the myth seems to have originated with a misunderstanding of how sleeping bags keep you warm. Many were mistakenly told that, “The warmth of your body will create a microenvironment of very warm air right next to your skin…and there is no way you will get that warm if clothes block contact with the air.” Obviously this isn’t true since wearing clothing will only add to the amount of heat trapped around your body. The myth might also come from a misunderstanding about how to treat hypothermia.  If a person is hypothermic, you are supposed to remove their wet clothing and put them in a hypothermic wrap. As an old [Princeton article on hypothermia](https://www.princeton.edu/~oa/safety/hypocold.shtml) points out, you do *not* put them naked in a sleeping bag with another person: “No matter how cold, patients can still internally rewarm themselves much more efficiently than any external rewarming.” --- ###### Sources: <https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/18484/could-a-sleeping-bag-be-warmer-if-you-are-naked-inside>, <https://bushcraftusa.com/forum/threads/do-you-sleep-naked.125797/page-2>, <https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php/7994-Sleeping-naked-is-warmer/page10>, image credit: “[Grady Slept in My Van](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nep/2427560384/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [nep](https://www.flickr.com/people/nep/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety --- ### [Blister at Site of Tick Bite: Should You Be Worried?](https://momgoescamping.com/blister-site-tick-bite/) **Published:** February 23, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** In addition to Lyme disease, ticks can transmit numerous other diseases.  The first symptom of these diseases is usually changes to the skin.  So, it’s normal to be freaked out if a blister develops at the site of your tick bite. Here’s what you need to know about whether blisters are a sign of tick-borne diseases like Lyme and whether you should be worried. ## Bumps Are Common On Tick Bite Sites Just like with mosquitoes and other animals which feed on blood, tick saliva contains many different toxins. These toxins have many roles, like keeping the tick bite painless so the host doesn’t notice it and preventing blood from coagulating. It is completely normal to have a skin reaction to these toxins in the tick saliva.  A red bump will often form at the tick bite site.  The bump (the medical term is a *papule*) usually firm and is often itchy. While it isn’t as common as a papule, a fluid-filled blister can also form.  Bumps and blisters at the site of a tick bite will usually form while the tick is still attached or soon after it has been removed.   You’ll likely have a bump if the [tick head got stuck in your skin](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-remove-a-tick-head-stuck-in-your-skin/). **Also read: [Why Does My Tick Bite Itch So Much?](https://momgoescamping.com/tick-bite-itches/)** The pictures below show a blister-like bump at the site of the tick bite while it is still attached and immediately after removal.  These bumps are normal and nothing to be worried about. ![tick bite with blister like bump at bite site](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/tick-bite-with-blister-like-bump-at-bite-site.jpg "tick bite with blister like bump at bite site - Mom Goes Camping") ## When a Blister Is a Sign of Lyme Disease While bumps and blisters at the tick bite site usually aren’t anything to worry about, there are some situations where you should be concerned. **Be concerned if:** - **The blister appears several days or weeks after getting bit**, especially if you are black or a person of color.  It is harder to see the signature Lyme disease rash on dark skin, so the blister might be the only visible sign of Lyme. - **It is surrounded by a reddish rash**, especially a rash that expands in size. - **Other symptoms of Lyme disease appear**, such as fever, fatigue or joint pain. **Note:** Remember that Lyme disease is unlikely if you remove the tick within 24 hours.  It’s important that you don’t squeeze or irritate the tick while removing it though or the tick might regurgitate its stomach contents into your skin. You’ll need a [tick removal tool](https://momgoescamping.com/tick-removal-tools-humans/) to prevent this. --- **Don’t head into the wilderness unprepared! Get my PRINTABLE** **Camping Cheat Sheets: An Illustrated Manual** [![camping cheat sheets](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/interior-pages-1024x356.jpg "interior pages - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets) **[Click to get your hands on this must-have guide!](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** --- ## Pictures of Tick Bite Blisters and Bumps ### 1. Lyme Disease Rash with Bump at Bite Site The picture below shows the signature bull’s-eye Lyme disease rash with a raised bump in the center at the site of the tick bite. See more [pictures of Lyme disease rash here](https://momgoescamping.com/lyme-disease-rash-photos/). ![lyme disease rash photo with red bump in middle](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/lyme-disease-rash-photo-with-red-bump-in-middle.jpg "lyme disease rash photo with red bump in middle - Mom Goes Camping") ### 2. Lyme Disease with Blister at Tick Bite Site Below is a picture of a Lyme disease rash with a blister in the center.  It started as a small red bump and, within 4 days, quickly grew into a larger blister lesion surrounded by a red rash.  The patient also reported a mild fever, headache, nausea and joint stiffness.   You can also see several [pictures of Lyme disease with blisters](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5372433/) here. You’ll note that all of these blisters were also surrounded by a rash. ![lyme disease rash with blister in middle](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/lyme-disease-rash-with-blister-in-middle.jpg "lyme disease rash with blister in middle - Mom Goes Camping") ### 3. Blister and Rash from Cayenne Tick Bite There are some situations where a tick bite can get a blister and a rash but not be Lyme disease.  The picture below shows the site of a Cayenne tick bite (A) immediately after removing the tick, (B) two days later, (C) two weeks later, and (D) two months later. In this case, the blister and rash weren’t actually a sign of disease.  But, you should still get checked if you get a blister and rash like this – especially since it formed so long after getting bit and grew in size! ![tick bite with blister and rash](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/tick-blister-3.jpg "tick blister 3 - Mom Goes Camping") ## Other Tick Diseases which Cause Blisters Lyme isn’t the only disease which ticks can transmit. While it isn’t likely, a blister at the site of a tick bite could be a sign of one of these tick diseases. ### **Bartonella:** Better known as “cat scratch fever,” there’s evidence that ticks can transmit this disease to humans.  It is frequently a co-infection with Lyme disease.   Bartonella rash usually looks like streaks or stretch marks.  However, it sometimes manifests as a blister. The picture below shows an atypical manifestation of bartonella in which blisters formed. ![bartonella blister atypical presentation](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/bartonella-blister-atypical-presentation.jpg "bartonella blister atypical presentation - Mom Goes Camping") ### **Tularemia:** One of the first signs of tularemia is an ulcer or lesion (though not a blister) at the site of the tick bite. Other signs are swollen and painful lymph glands, inflamed eyes, sore throat, mouth sores, diarrhea or pneumonia. The image below shows a tularemia lesion. ![tularmia lesion](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/tularmia-lesion.jpg "tularmia lesion - Mom Goes Camping") ### **Rickettsia parkeri:** Rickettsia parkeri is a type of spotted fever. One of the first signs of rickettsia parkeri is a skin ulcer or lesion at the tick bite site.  It is usually painful and has a dark scab.  However, it can look like a blister during the early stages.  Other symptoms include fever, headache, muscle aches and a bumpy rash on the trunk, arm and legs. **![rickettsia parkeri lesion](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/rickettsia-parkeri-lesion.jpg "rickettsia parkeri lesion - Mom Goes Camping")** --- ###### **Sources:** <https://ijdvl.com/lyme-disease-in-haryana-india/>, <https://innovareacademics.in/journals/index.php/ijpps/article/view/41444/25192>, <https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0190962204002671>, <https://doctorlib.info/medical/clinical-practice-emergency-medicine/375.html>, <https://www.mdpi.com/2227-9032/8/2/157>, <https://www.lymedisease.org/lyme-basics/co-infections/bartonella/> <https://emergency.cdc.gov/agent/tularemia/faq.asp> <https://doctorlib.info/medical/clinical-practice-emergency-medicine/375.html> <https://parasitesandvectors.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13071-019-3730-2/figures/2> <https://www.cdc.gov/ticks/tickbornediseases/rickettsiosis.html> <https://www.cdc.gov/otherspottedfever/index.html> ###### **Image credits:** [Tick Lodged in Human Host](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tick_lodged_in_human_host.jpg) by Denys Williams, er the [Creative Commons](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Creative_Commons)[Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/deed.en) license [Site of Tick Removal](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Site_of_tick_removal.jpg) by Denys Williams, er the [Creative Commons](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Creative_Commons)[Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/deed.en) license “[Lyme disease](https://www.flickr.com/photos/monkeypuzzle/3490267501/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [monkeypuzzle](https://www.flickr.com/people/monkeypuzzle/) Bullous Lyme disease by [Jeffrey B. Tiger, MD ](https://www.jaad.org/article/S0190-9622(14)01391-7/fulltext), [Marshall A. Guill III, MD](https://www.jaad.org/article/S0190-9622(14)01391-7/fulltext) and [ Shane Chapman, MD](https://www.jaad.org/article/S0190-9622(14)01391-7/fulltext). Found at <https://www.jaad.org/article/S0190-9622(14)01391-7/fulltext>, 2014 American Academy of Dermatology, Inc. Published by Elsevier Inc. [CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 license](http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/) [fig2: Site of the bite of the Cayenne tick Amblyomma cajennense described in the present](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/358856481/figure/fig2/AS:11431281104120248@1669951137113/Site-of-the-bite-of-the-Cayenne-tick-Amblyomma-cajennense-described-in-the-present.png) by [Vanessa L. de Souza](https://www.researchgate.net/scientific-contributions/Vanessa-L-de-Souza-2215658571), [Marcos S. de Lima](https://www.researchgate.net/scientific-contributions/Marcos-S-de-Lima-2215654311), [Thiago F. Martins](https://www.researchgate.net/scientific-contributions/Thiago-F-Martins-32813371) and [José R. L. de Souza](https://www.researchgate.net/scientific-contributions/Jose-R-L-de-Souza-2215645278). Found at [researchgate.net](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/358856481_Amblyomma_cajennense_Fabricius_1787_human_parasitism_and_the_first_record_from_the_state_of_Acre_in_western_Brazilian_Amazon). [Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/) license. [Cat scratch disease – active skin lesions (one week after inoculation)](https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Cat-scratch-disease-active-skin-lesions-one-week-after-inoculation_fig3_281576171), by [Katarzyna Mazur-Melewska](https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Katarzyna-Mazur-Melewska), [Katarzyna Jończyk-Potoczna](https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Katarzyna-Jonczyk-Potoczna), [Anna Mania](https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Anna-Mania), et al. Found at <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/281576171_The_significance_of_Bartonella_henselae_bacterias_for_oncological_diagnosis_in_children>, [Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety **Tags:** ticks --- ### [Tent Camping in Hot Temperatures: How to Deal with the Heat](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-hot-temperatures/) **Published:** March 28, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** A lot of popular campgrounds and National Parks need to be booked months in advance.  And not all of us have the luxury of changing our vacation dates or plans.  So, what do you do if a heat wave hits during your planned camping trip?  Instead of canceling, here are some expert tips on how to stay comfortable when camping in hot temperatures. ## 1. Go to Higher Elevation If you haven’t booked your campground yet, look for one which is at a high elevation.  It is significantly cooler at high elevations than at low elevations. **As a general rule, temperature decreases approximately 5.4°F for every 1000 feet in elevation.** For example, the average July high temperatures at the Grand Canyon South Rim (7,000 ft) is 84F.  At the North Rim (8,000 ft), the average high is 77F. ## 2. Prevent Your Tent from Becoming a Greenhouse Tents trap heat and can make for a miserable camping experience.  There are a few things you can do to prevent this… ### Set Up Your Tent for Shade and Breeze Try to pitch your tent in a cluster of trees so it has shade during the morning and evening.  If you only have one tree, then carefully consider whether you prefer shade during the morning (sleep in a bit longer) or the evening. If you don’t have any trees for shade, you can use a tarp over your tent to create some shade. **See these [tarp shelter setups](https://momgoescamping.com/tarp-shelters/).** Also position your tent so it will get a good breeze.  Unfortunately, the same trees which give you shade can also block the breeze. If you have to choose between shade and a breeze though, always choose the shade. ### Remove the Tent Fly If you have a two layer tent, don’t bother using the fly since it traps heat.  Or just partially attach the fly so you can quickly cover the tent if it starts raining.  Another option is to use a tarp shelter instead of the fly.  Make sure the tarp is pitched high enough so it doesn’t restrict airflow. Of course, this means you aren’t going to have much privacy.  The sun will also wake you up earlier if you don’t have the tent fly to block light. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/tent-without-fly-in-hot-temperatures.jpg "tent without fly in hot temperatures - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/tent-without-fly-in-hot-temperatures.jpg)*Keep the fly off the tent for better ventilation* ### Break Down Your Tent during the Day A lot of campers will completely break down their tent during the day so it doesn’t trap the hot air.  Obviously this is an annoying step to do, especially if you have a complex tent setup. ### Ditch the Tent Completely Consider sleeping under the open stars instead of in a tent. You can use a cot to keep you off the ground (and away from creepie-crawlies). There are bug tents that can be pitched like tarps to keep flying insects off. ## 3. Use a Hammock Instead of a Tent Hammocks are great for camping in hot temperatures.  They don’t turn into saunas like tents do, and you get airflow above *and* below you in a hammock.  Try to choose a hammock made from loose cotton material instead of a thick nylon, as this will get better airflow. ## 4. Sleep on a Cot Sleeping pads are terrible for camping in hot weather. Their insulation will trap your body heat against you, making you feel even warmer.   Air mattresses don’t trap heat like sleeping pads – but the plastic material feels terrible against your skin. A better solution is to use a camping cot.  Because the cot gets you off the ground, you have more air flow underneath your body and will stay cooler.  As an added bonus, some of them are really comfortable and they give you storage space underneath. **Also read: [Best camping cots for adults](https://momgoescamping.com/best-camping-cots/) and [for kids](https://momgoescamping.com/kids-camping-cots/)** ## 5. Use a Shade  Shelter When camping in hot weather, a sun shade is not optional! Get one big enough for everyone in your camping group to sit underneath.  There’s no need to spend a fortune on a special sun shelter though.  You can just buy a cheap tarp and use rope to set it up. ### **Warning: Bug Tents Have Terrible Airflow** While mesh bug tents do provide shade, they also reduce airflow and hot in heat. This might mean you have to choose between dealing with uncomfortable heat or annoying insects. I would opt for a tarp shelter and copious amounts or bug spray.  Or treat your clothing with [permethrin ](https://momgoescamping.com/permethrin/)to keep bugs away. ## 6. Bring a Tent Fan [![fan for tent camping in hot weather](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/tent-fan.jpg "- Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/tent-fan.jpg) Pretty much everyone who goes camping in very hot temperatures recommends bringing a fan.  It can literally save your camping trip by making it bearable to sleep in the tent. **Also read: [Best Options for Tent Fans](https://momgoescamping.com/best-tent-fans-for-camping-5-options-which-actually-work/)** ### What about Portable AC Units for Tents? I personally have never used an air conditioner in a tent.  But, if you are camping in hot *and* humid temperatures, an AC unit might be the only way to stay comfortable. You’ll probably have to cut a hole in your tent window for the AC unit. Prop it up on a cooler or milk crate outside of the tent to keep in in place.  Just be warned that **AC units are LOUD** and the constant turning on/off can annoy you (and your camping neighbors). A better alternative might be to make a swamp cooler for your tent (here are [instructions](https://www.consumerreports.org/air-conditioners/can-a-homemade-air-conditioner-keep-you-cool/)).  But I also have never tried one of these, so can’t say whether they work well or not. ## 7. Skip the Sleeping Bag The nylon material on most sleeping bags is really uncomfortable and sticky in hot weather.  If you are certain it won’t get cold at night (remember that temperatures can drop suddenly at high elevations, even in summer!), then just bring a sheet for sleeping. Choose a sheet with a lower thread count so you get better air flow.  Silk sheets feel really good against your skin too.  There are even some nice silk sleeping bag liners which you can use instead of a sleeping bag. The [Sea to Summit one](https://amzn.to/3KccGkC) is really nice but stupidly expensive. Cheaper silk liners will also work. ## 8. Drink Electrolytes Obviously you need to drink lots of water when camping in hot weather.  But even drinking water all day long might not be enough to keep you hydrated – especially since you will be sweating out salt and minerals like crazy. Instead, opt for sports drinks.  Or add electrolyte tablets like Nuun to your water bottle (available on [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3FTkh5d) and at [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dnuun%2Belectrolytes%26pagesize%3D90)).  I always keep electrolyte packets in [my camping first aid kit](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-first-aid-checklist/) too in case someone gets dehydrated from sickness. **Pro Tip:** Bring a separate cooler just for drinks.  If your water gets hot, you probably won’t drink enough. ## 9. Plan Daytime Activities Wisely [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/water-play-camping-in-hot-weather.jpg "water play camping in hot weather - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/water-play-camping-in-hot-weather.jpg)*Water play is the best way to stay cool outdoors when its this hot* When camping in really hot weather, you’ll have to accept the fact that every activity may be compromised. It can be disappointing not to go on the hikes you wanted or see certain attractions – but it’s better to be disappointed than get heatstroke.   You’ll have to figure out some hot-weather camping activities instead: - **Water activities:** Swimming is the obvious best activity. But even choosing a hike next to a stream so you can stick your feet in it can make a huge difference. - **Indoor activities:** Plan to spend more time in visitor centers, museums or even the town’s local library. - **Become nocturnal:** If you aren’t camping with little kids or in a campground (which will have no-noise hours), you can do your activities during night instead. Like hiking at nighttime, cooking at night, or staying up with your friends to watch the sunrise. Then sleep in the shade all day long. **Pro Tip: Use Weatherbug to find cooler places.** Go the map feature on the [Weatherbug website](https://www.weatherbug.com/) or app.  Choose “now” and then select “temperature” from the options.  This will let you find places nearby which are cooler.  You might be surprised how much cooler some places – such as shady canyons or next to bodies of water. ## 10. Plan Quick, Easy Meals For starters, you can forget about cooking over a campfire when it’s that hot outside. Even standing next to a camping stove can be miserable, so try to choose meals which don’t take a long time to cook. Think simple salads, sandwiches, wraps and instant meals which aren’t too fatty (and thus difficult to digest).  Here are some [**quick camping meal ideas**](https://momgoescamping.com/easy-camping-meals/). ## 11. Don’t Get Sunburnt Be extra diligent about applying sunscreen, wearing UV clothing and staying out of the sun as much as possible. Getting sunburnt will make you feel even more hot and uncomfortable. ## 12. Setup Camp Chairs in Water Need a place to hang out during the day?  Put waterproof camping chairs in a stream or lake. Or bring a small kiddie pool to camp, fill it with water, and put your chairs right in it.   Even just sitting with your feet in the water will feel great. ## 13. Other Tips for Camping in Hot Weather - **Pack Dresses:** Dresses aren’t usually considered camping clothing, but they make the heat much more comfortable. Men might even want to consider a hiking skirt! - **Cooling Towels:** Dip a towel or bandana in water and put it on your neck, face, etc. This results in evaporative heat loss and cools you down.  There are special ones made out of “hyper-evaporative” materials which hold water but don’t feel wet.  The [Frogg Toggs cooling towels](https://amzn.to/40EAfYW) get good reviews. - **Misting bottles:** If it’s not humid, then bring a spray bottle for misting yourself with water. You can add peppermint, rosemary and other cooling essential oils (just be warned that this might attract insects!). - **Don’t eat before bed:** Your body creates heat when digesting, which will make you feel even hotter and more uncomfortable. Plan to eat your dinner a long time before going to bed. - **Stay out of the AC before your camping trip:** This will help you acclimate your body to the heat before your trip. - **Keep emergency supplies in your car:** Including extra water (in a sturdy water canister so it doesn’t melt!), non-perisable foods, a first aid kit and a tarp for shade. If you get stranded in the heat, these items could save your life. - **Bring extra socks:** Wearing wet, sweaty socks will give you trench feet. Bring spares and sandals to wear around camp. --- ## Want camping info in PRINTABLE format? **Then you need my Camping Cheat Sheets.** The manual has 42 pages crammed with illustrated guides about everything from campfire cooking to wilderness first aid. 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Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety --- ### [Can You Use a Blanket Instead of a Sleeping Bag when Camping?](https://momgoescamping.com/use-a-blanket-instead-of-sleeping-bag-camping/) **Published:** June 15, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Want to go camping but don’t feel like buying a sleeping bag for the trip? Here’s what you need to know about using a blanket instead of a sleeping bag. ## Quick Answer: In very warm temperatures, using a blanket instead of a sleeping bag will be fine for camping.  If the temperatures are a bit colder though, you can fold two blankets into a sleeping bag to trap heat better.  However, even the two-blanket method doesn’t work nearly as well as using a good sleeping bag for camping. ## First, Figure Out How Cold It Will Be At Night A lot of newbie campers don’t realize how cold it can get at night when camping, especially when you are in the mountains.  The higher the elevation, the colder the nighttime temperatures will be. Consider that Grant Village Campground in Yellowstone.  Summertime temperatures are usually in the 70s or 80s during the day but fall to 30s/40s at night.  Yes, it has SNOWED there during summer! So don’t underestimate your need for a warm sleeping bag at night when camping. **Also Read: [How cold does it get at night when camping?](https://momgoescamping.com/how-cold-is-too-cold-for-tent-camping/#howcold)** ## Why Sleeping Bags Are Warmer than Blankets The reason that sleeping bags are so much warmer than blankets is because they trap heat from all directions.  The good sleeping bags even have drawstrings around the head so no heat escapes from your neck area. By contrast, blankets just trap heat on top of you.  This isn’t really an issue when you are sleeping on a comfy mattress.  The mattress traps heat below you.  And, because you sink into the mattress a bit, less heat escapes around your sides. But you probably won’t be sleeping on a thick foam mattress while camping. With just a blanket to cover you, heat will definitely escape from below you and from the sides.  Oh, and forget about air mattresses.  They are “heat sinks” – meaning that they provide absolutely zero insulation and you will feel cold. **Also Read: [How to Sleep Warmer when Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/warmer-sleeping-bag/)** ## Turn Two Blankets into a Sleeping Bag If you absolutely have to use blankets instead of a sleeping bag, then I recommend using this trick shown below.  You fold two blankets over each other to make yourself a sleeping bag. You’ll still lose some heat from the neck area.  And crawling into the blanket-sleeping-bag is a bit tricky.  But it’s a lot warmer than putting a blanket on top of you. 1. Put two blankets on top of each other. 2. Fold the top blanket in thirds. 3. Tuck the “tail” of the folded top blanket under.  It should be as long as your body. 4. Fold the bottom blanket over the top blanket. Tuck any excess underneath the folded first blanket. 5. Tuck the “tail” of the top blanket underneath. 6. Crawl inside the sleeping bag. 7. Never put your face inside. Moisture from your breath will get the bag wet inside and make you feel cold. ![turn blankets into a sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/turn-blankets-into-a-sleeping-bag.jpg "turn blankets into a sleeping bag - Mom Goes Camping") ## What Type of Blanket to Use? If you have a choice, bring a *synthetic* or *wool* blanket.  Avoid cotton blankets because they absorb water  and moisture, which in turn can make you feel cold due to evaporative heat loss. A blanket like this [king-size weighted blanket](https://balooliving.com/products/weighted-blanket) will stay in place better.  If using a weighted blanket with the two-blanket system shown above, then make sure the weighted blanket is on the *inside.* Otherwise the weight will compress the insulation of the inner blanket, making the setup less warm. ## Don’t Forget About Having Something UNDERNEATH You Even if it is warm enough to sleep with just a blanket at night, don’t forget about your sleeping surface. If you sleep directly on the tent floor, the ground will literally suck the heat out of your body (it’s called conductive heat loss).  You’ll need some sort of sleeping pad to insulate your body from the ground. I do *not* recommend folding blankets to use instead of a sleeping pad.  They end up getting squished (and thus lose their insulating properties).  If you don’t have a camping sleeping pad, exercise or yoga mats work well enough. And, if using just a blanket on top of you, don’t forget to bring a sheet for underneath you!  It is VERY uncomfortable to sleep directly on a sleeping pad or cot. ### Blanket vs Sleeping Bag FAQ #### Can you use a regular blanket for camping? In warm weather above 60°F at night yes, a blanket is fine for camping, especially with a sleeping pad underneath. Below that, blankets lose effectiveness fast because they can’t trap heat around your sides and below you the way a mummy or semi-rectangular sleeping bag can. The colder it is, the more a sleeping bag matters. #### How many blankets do you need to stay warm camping? At least two if you’re substituting for a sleeping bag, and they need to be layered correctly  one folded around you, one on top  to trap heat from multiple directions. Even then, this only works reliably above around 50°F. Below 50°F, add a sleeping pad with a high R-value and consider borrowing a sleeping bag rather than improvising with more blankets. #### What type of blanket is best for camping? Wool or synthetic fleece. Wool regulates temperature naturally and insulates even when wet. Synthetic fleece dries fast and is lightweight. Avoid cotton blankets cotton absorbs moisture from sweat, ground humidity, and dew, then loses its insulating ability completely when damp. #### Is an air mattress good for camping in cold weather? Generally no. Standard air mattresses act as heat sinks the air inside the mattress gets cold, and that cold transfers directly to your body. If you’re using an air mattress, always put a sleeping pad, thick blanket, or yoga mat between you and the mattress surface to break that conductive heat loss. Some insulated air mattresses are an exception, but most camping air mattresses are not insulated. #### What’s the minimum temperature you can camp with just a blanket? As a rough guideline, a single warm blanket is adequate above 65°F. Two blankets in the folded sleeping-bag configuration work down to roughly 50°F if you also have a good sleeping pad underneath. Below 50°F, you really need a proper sleeping bag the warmth difference is significant enough that improvising becomes a safety issue, not just a comfort one. Read more about sleeping well while camping below: - [Best Kids Sleeping Bags](https://momgoescamping.com/best-kids-sleeping-bag/) - [Sleeping Bags for Short Women](https://momgoescamping.com/sleeping-bags-short-women/) - [Camping Uneven Ground](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-uneven-ground/) --- [**Heading out soon?**](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets/guylines) [ My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup. ](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets/guylines) [**[Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)**![camping cheat sheets](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/interior-pages.jpg "interior pages - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets/guylines) [Get yours here!](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety **Tags:** sleeping bag --- ### [12 Tips for Taking Someone Else’s Kid Camping or Backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/taking-someone-elses-kid-camping-backpacking/) **Published:** September 4, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** My older daughter is 13 now. By some miracle of adolescence, we still get along.  But she is at an age where camping is a LOT more fun if she can bring a friend. Taking someone else’s kid camping is a whole different ballgame than taking your own kids though.  After taking my daughter and her friends camping several times, here’s what I’ve learned. ## 1. Other People’s Kids Are ANNOYING Let be clear: *your* kids are also annoying.  But you’ve just gotten used to their annoying habits.  This won’t be the case with the random friend your kid is bringing along. At home, your kids probably hang out in their bedroom or somewhere else away from you.  At camp, you will be in much closer proximity.  So when the kid starts whining after hiking just ¼ mile or grilling you on history facts (that happened to me on one trip), you can find yourself going a bit crazy. So, hopefully you actually like the kid you are taking with you camping. **Tip:** Get to know the kid a bit first – like having them sleep over a few times or take them on a day hike – before you take them camping. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/sleeping-in-own-tent.jpg "sleeping in own tent - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/sleeping-in-own-tent.jpg)Ideally have your kid and their friend sleepin their own tent Then they at least they wont annoy you during the night 🙂 ## 2. Be VERY Specific with Packing Instructions Especially if the family isn’t outdoorsy, make sure you are very clear about what the kid needs to bring.  Otherwise the kid is going to end up with inadequate clothing or supplies, which in turn could make the trip miserable for them. For example, on one backpacking trip with my daughter’s friend, the kid showed up with a duffle bag instead of a backpack.  We had to hike about a mile to camp, and the duffle bag was not comfortable for her to carry. \*You can see the Packing List I send to the parents at the end of this post. ### Also Explain What NOT to Pack The same kid also packed a bunch of things which weren’t on the list “just in case”, like sunscreen and bug spray.  I didn’t put these on the list because I packed them (and packed the exact amount in smaller containers to cut weight!).  This meant her already uncomfortable duffle bag was heavier than necessary. Lesson learned: on the next trip, I was obnoxiously specific when telling the parents what they should and shouldn’t pack. **Tip:**  If possible, have the kid come over before the trip so you can pack together.  Then you can make sure they are bringing suitable clothing/supplies. ## 3. You Will Be Paranoid About Injuries It’s one thing if *your own kid* falls and gets some scrapes and bruises.  It’s another thing if someone else’s kid gets hurt while playing in nature. There’s not really much you can do about this (obviously you need a fully-stocked first aid kit with you!).  But I mention it because I was surprised about how nervous I got about potential injuries compared to trips with just my own kids. **Also read: [Camping First Aid Checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-first-aid-checklist/)** ## 4. Have the Child Pick Out their Own Snacks Don’t let the parents pack snacks.  Seriously.  They might pack healthy things like nuts and dried fruit.   Kids would rather have cookies, pretzels, gummy bears and other junk. (I’m a health food freak but, if there’s a time to eat junk food, it’s during camping). If the parents pack snacks that the kid doesn’t like, the kid will eat all the yummy junk food you packed.  Which means you get stuck with their boring snacks. ## 5. And bring a LOT of Snacks Kids can be really picky eaters.  If the kid doesn’t like the meals you packed, at least they will have snacks to eat. **Tip:** At least ½ of the calories you bring should be snacks.  This usually means bringing approximately 1,000 calories of snacks per child, per day. ## 6. Tell Parents How/When You Will Check In The places where I go camping are usually in the wilderness.  There is definitely no electricity.  And rarely is there a phone or internet signal.  Even if there is a signal, I keep my phone turned off to conserve the battery. In this era where kids have cell phones and are always reachable**, parents can freak out if they can’t reach their kids.** So, you need to be VERY clear about when and how you will check in.  For example, tell them in advance that you will send one message in the morning and again before bed, but you won’t be reachable during the day. **Not all parents will be okay with this.** I had one set of parents change their mind about letting their kid come camping with us when they heard we wouldn’t have a phone signal (and this is a family who has actually gone camping multiple times).   I actually really like their kid, so was very disappointed she couldn’t come with us.  Next time I will have to plan the trip someplace with a reliable signal. ## 7. Go Over Safety Rules with the Kids Go over the rules *before* you arrive. And again *when* you arrive. And once again at critical moments, like saying “No running around the stove” as you light it up. **Don’t be surprised if the other kid is ignorant about things you think would be obvious.** For example, I let my kids poke the campfire with “poker sticks.”  They have fun letting the sticks catch on fire and then extinguishing them. But I’m very strict about the rules (no waving the sticks in the air; sticks aren’t allowed to cross each other, they have to be sitting…). But my daughter’s friend didn’t understand that the end of a stick would still be hot even after taking it out of the fire.  She almost hit my daughter with the still-hot stick!  This is not something I thought I’d have to explain to an 11-year old.   I have since amended my rules to be stupidly detailed. ## 8. Also Explain Leave No Trace Rules My kids grew up with camping, so they know not to do things like pick flowers, break tree branches or disturb nature in other ways. Other kids might not know this.  They might not even understand why “biodegradable” things like banana peels shouldn’t be thrown on the ground. Make sure you explain these rules before and during the trip.  And be mentally prepared for this so you don’t yell at the kids if they start to do something you think they should “know better” not to do.  Instead, embrace this as a learning opportunity for the child and turn them into a eco warrior. 🙂 ## 9. Make Them Work There are a lot of camp tasks that kids can do, like: - Setting up the tent - Filtering water - Gathering fire wood - Washing dishes My daughter used to like these tasks when she was little. Now she finds them boring and usually tries to get out of them.  But, when a friend comes along, she likes doing them with her friend.  It makes her feel smart and confident because she can explain what to do. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/setting-up-tent.jpg "kids setting up tent - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/setting-up-tent.jpg)*My daughter and her friend setting up the tent She usually tries to get out of this task when its just the two of us 😀* ## 10. Letting the Kids Walk Around by Themselves As I mentioned before, you will be much more paranoid about someone else’s kid potentially getting lost or injured than your own kid.  If the terrain is dangerous or has venomous snakes, you might not want to let them walk around on their own at all. **If you do let the kids wander on their own…** - **Explain safety rules.** Like that they should stay on the trail and stay put if they get lost. - **Have a whistle.** Seriously don’t let kids go anywhere without a whistle. And explain to the kids how to use it to signal for help. - **Also have other survival supplies.** Like water, snacks and rain jackets. Btw, these are things kids *and* adults should have when in nature regardless! ## 11. Establish Rules about Phones and Devices My kids don’t get devices when camping (my teen actually told me that she’s grateful for this!).  But many kids have never gone more than a few waking hours without their phones. Apparently one friend that I took camping with us was sneaking off to use her phone. My daughter was annoyed because she had no desire to watch TikTok videos while in nature. :/ If digital detoxing is an important part of camping for you, make sure the kids know this.  Be clear about the rules so they don’t hate you when you take their phone away from them. ## 12. Does the Kid Have their Own Sleeping Bag? I have 12 sleeping bags 😂, so any friends who come camping with us usually use my gear.  But your kid’s friend might have their own sleeping bag.  In this case, make sure you ask about the temperature rating!  You  don’t want to arrive at camp to realize they’ve brought an inadequate sleeping bag and will freeze their butts off the entire night. ## Packing List and Instructions I Send to the Kid’s Parent Here is the packing list I send to the parents when taking one of my kid’s friends camping with us.  It is for summer camping (I’m not crazy enough to take someone else’s kid camping in shoulder seasons!).   We always have to walk to camp, so it’s really important for me to be minimalist and lightweight. You can see [my family camping packing list](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-checklist-family/) here. **In the Backpack:** - Sandals/Crocs - Pajamas x1 (long sleeves and pants) - Rain jacket or softshell jacket x1 - Hoodie or sweater x1 (it gets cold at night!) - Shirts (one per day) - Long pants/sports leggings OR shorts x1 - Underwear (one per day) - Socks (one per day + one extra pair) - Bathing suit - Hat with a brim (optional) - Water bottle - Toothbrush (no need to pack toothpaste unless you kid wants to use their own) - Fun stuff - Drawing notebook (we will pack pens and pencils; so no need to pack these) - SMALL toy or game (I will pack \_\_\_\_, \_\_\_, \_\_\_\_, so no need to pack these) **Wear the Day Of:** - Long pants/sports leggings OR shorts (If wearing shorts, pack long pants/leggings in the backpacking. If wearing long pants/leggings, then pack shorts) - Shirt - Hiking boots or sneakers **\*Note about clothing:** - If possible, don’t pack or wear cotton. It takes forever to dry if it gets wet.   Jeans and jean shorts are especially bad.  Instead, try to pack “sports clothing” made from synthetic materials.  If your kid has a wool or fleece hoodie, this is best. **Food:** - Sandwich for lunch the first day - Favorite snacks: - Nothing that requires refrigeration. - About 1,000 calories per day. - Try to choose “calorie dense” foods like pretzels, cookies and energy bars. - Avoid “fluffy” and fragile foods like chips. They break too easily. - Also avoid foods which are covered in chocolate. They will turn into a melted mess! **Do NOT Pack:** - If I didn’t put it on the list, please don’t bring it! I’ll pack sun cream, first aid kit items, insect spray, etc.  So there’s no need to pack any of these items. 🙂 - Don’t pack anything scented, like perfumed deodorant. It attracts insects. ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety --- ### [How to Stake Out a Tent, Even in Bad Conditions (with Pictures)](https://momgoescamping.com/how-stake-out-tent-instructions/) **Published:** September 26, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Staking out a tent seems like it would be easy.  In practice though, there is always an obstacle: a big rock exactly where your stake should go, loose ground, too-hard ground, snow or sand… But, if you know these tactics, you’ll be able to stake out a tent regardless of the conditions. ## Tent Stake Angle There is a lot of debate about the best angle for tent stakes.  A lot of people argue that you should put the tent stake straight into the ground and *not* at an angle. The basis of this argument is this [physics study](https://www.in.gov/dhs/files/APPENDIX-A-Staking-Analysis-vertical-vs-at-an-angle.pdf).  However, the study results don’t hold up in real-life scenarios. If the stake is vertical, the pull from the guylines will gradually cause the stake to angle towards the tent. When that happens, it can easily slide out of the ground.  For that reason, I always stake my tent guylines at an angle. ### **Use these angles for Staking a Tent:** - 90 degree angle for tent guylines - 15-20 degree angle for tent floors (stake goes directly into ground) **Also Read: [How to Tie Out Tent Guylines](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-tie-tent-guylines-illustrated-instructions/)** [![tie out tent guylines with adjustable tension tautline hitch method](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/tie-out-tent-guylines.jpg "tie out tent guylines - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/tie-out-tent-guylines.jpg) ## Hammering Tent Stakes (without Bending Them) If the ground is soft *and* you have hard-soled footwear, then you can push the stake into the ground with your feet.  However, if the ground is hard, you’ll need to hammer in the stakes. ### To hammer stakes properly: 1. Line up your stake at the appropriate angle. 2. Gently tap the stake until it is at least 1/3 into the ground. 3. Once stake is well into the ground, you can tap stake with more pressure. ### Tips: - Don’t try to get the guylines taut while hammering. Instead, use an adjustable sliding knot like the tautline hitch to tighten guylines *after* they stakes have been hammered. - Use a rubber mallet instead of a hammer. This prevents stakes from bending. - If your stakes keep bending, consider getting better ones. --- ## Staking Tent in Windy Conditions, Loose Soil and Rocky Ground The image below shows you how to stake a tent when the soil conditions aren’t great, or you need extra security because of heavy winds. [![how to stake tent for wind loose soil or rocky soil](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/stake-tent-for-wind-loose-soil-rocky-soil.jpg "stake tent for wind loose soil rocky soil - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/stake-tent-for-wind-loose-soil-rocky-soil.jpg) ### Method 1: Two stakes and 1 extra cord Tie a loop at the end of the guyline. Pass an extra cord through the loop.  Stake out each side of the extra cord. This method reduces pressure on the stakes, so they are more secure in loose or rocky soil. It is also good for when there is a rock exactly where you need to stake. ### Method 2: Three stakes and 1 extra cord Stake out your tent normally.  Then put an extra cord around this stake; stake out the ends of the extra cord.  This helps anchor the first stake – great for loose soil. ### Method 3:  Three stakes and 2 extra cords This method gives you two backups if your first stake should come out. Because each stake is tied together, the pressure is reduced across. ### Method 4: Two stakes and 1 large rock Stake out the guyline in two places.  Put a large rock between the stakes. ### Method 5: One stake, 1 extra cord, 1 small rock and 1 large rock Stake down your tent.  Tie an extra cord to the stake, then tie the other end of the cord around a rock or strong stick.  Put a large rock on the extra cord so it sits between the stake and rock/stick. ### Method 6: Not recommended Don’t be tempted to criss-cross tent stakes.  Instead of making them stronger, it will just loosen the soil. ### Method 7: Not Recommended Using two guylines from the same tie-out point is *not* recommended.  It will help reduce strain on the tent stakes.  However, it pulls on your tent fly and could cause it to tear. --- ## Staking Tent in Sand or Snow You can’t use normal tent staking methods when pitching on sand or snow.  The stakes won’t hold, and you run the risk of losing them.   Instead, use one of the methods shown here. [![how to stake a tent in sand or snow](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/how-to-stake-tent-sand-snow.jpg "how to stake tent sand snow - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/how-to-stake-tent-sand-snow.jpg) ### Method 1: Bury an Anchor Use a clove hitch to attach your guylines to an anchor.  The anchor can be your tent stake.  If the sand or snow is very loose *or* there will be a lot of pull, then you need a longer and thicker anchor like a sturdy stick. Dig a hole and put your anchor in the hole.  The anchor should be perpendicular to the tent guyline! ### Method 2: Pile of Rocks This method works in sand, shallow snow and also on very hard ground.  Use a clove hitch to attach the tent guyline to an anchor (your tent stake or a long, sturdy stick).  Put a pile of rocks in front of the stick so it holds the guylines out. ### Method 3: Parachute Anchors To use parachute anchors, just fill them with sand or snow.  Then attach them to your tent guylines and pull into position. If you don’t want to buy parachute anchors, you can improvise them out of a stuff sack.  Whatever you use will end up sandy or snowy though. ## What to Do If Your Tent Stakes Break? If your tent stakes break, become too bent, or you forget them at home, then you can: - **Improvise tent stakes.**  You’ll need a knife to carve stakes out of sticks.  This generally doesn’t work well in bad soil conditions. - **Use rock anchors:** Instead of using stakes, tie your guylines to large, heavy rocks.  The downside is that this method requires a lot more cordage.  Also, BE CAREFUL ABOUT SNAKES when lifting heavy rocks! - **Use the “pile of rocks” method:** You won’t need as much extra cordage with this method as tying around a big rock. You also don’t risk dropping a massive rock on your feet. ![improvised tent stakes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/improvised-tent-stakes.jpg "improvised tent stakes - Mom Goes Camping") --- ## Want this information in PRINTABLE format? **Then you need my Camping Cheat Sheets.** The manual has 42 pages crammed with illustrated guides about everything from campfire cooking to wilderness first aid. [![camping cheat sheets](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/interior-pages.jpg "interior pages - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets/guylines) **And because you made it to the end of this post, I’ll even give you 50% off  😀** [**Get Your Copy for 50% Off Here**](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets/guylines) --- Image credit: “[Luxury sleeping arrangements – Carbon Cr](https://www.flickr.com/photos/alanenglish/48237512766/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Al\_HikesAZ](https://www.flickr.com/people/alanenglish/), “[DIY tent stakes](https://www.flickr.com/photos/xerhino/17299138984/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [xerhino](https://www.flickr.com/people/xerhino/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety --- ### [Winter Camping Guide: Tips for Staying Safe, Warm and in Good Spirits](https://momgoescamping.com/winter-camping/) **Published:** December 17, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Winter camping definitely has its benefits, like being able to visit popular destination without the crowds and enjoying beautiful white vistas. But, for the unprepared, a winter camping trip and end up miserable or be downright dangerous. So, if you are planning a cold weather or winter camping trip, read these tips first. **The tips are broken down into these categories:** - [**Safety**](#safety) - [**Gear**](#gear) - [**Clothing**](#clothing) - [**Setting Up Camp**](#setting-up) - [**Staying Warm and Dry**](#warm-dry) - [**Food, Water and Winter Kitchen**](#food-water) - [**Hygiene**](#hygiene) \[sta\_anchor id=”safety” /\] ## Safety ### 1. Do Your Research! Deciding to sleep outdoors in the dead of winter may seem like it would be a bit dangerous, because it absolutely is. **Some winter camping risks include:** - Hypothermia - Frostbite - Avalanche - Getting lost - Snow blindness - Sunburn - Chapped skin - Slip and fall accidents Make sure you do your research into the risks so you know what to do if they occur.  More importantly, know what to do to *prevent* these risks. For example, you will probably need a good GPS to navigate in snowy conditions.  Gear like [microspikes](https://momgoescamping.com/best-microspikes-hiking/) can help prevent slip and fall accidents. And hand warmer packets can prevent your hands and feet from getting too cold. [![winter hiking and camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/39652542435_d8998d0c8c_z.jpg "winter hiking and camping - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/39652542435_d8998d0c8c_z.jpg) ### 2. Put an Emergency Kit in Your Vehicle Lots of backcountry roads are not plowed frequently in winter. If a sudden snowfall occurs, you may be stuck for a long period. Likewise, if your vehicle breaks down, it can take a long time for help to arrive. Make sure you have an emergency kit in your vehicle with at least several days of supplies. You should have one of these for everyday anyway. 🙂 ### 3. Have an Exit Plan When planning a camping trip, it’s always best to think of “worst case scenarios” and have an exit plan. In winter, an exit plan is even more important. If you are new to winter camping, then don’t set up camp too far away from your vehicle in case you need to make a hasty exit. **Bonus Tip:** The [Winter Camping guide by NOLS](https://amzn.to/35IhN4Q) (National Outdoor Leadership School) is one of the best books on the subject.  I highly suggest you give it a read before going on a winter camping adventure. \[sta\_anchor id=”gear” /\] ## Winter Camping Gear ### 4. Plan On Lots of Extra Gear Winter camping means you’ll need a lot of additional gear to help you stay warm and safe.  Depending on the conditions, you may need to bring: - Four-season tent - Shovel - Microspikes - Avalanche pole - Goggles - Hand warmers - Heater - Insulated pad for sitting Not sure what to bring on your trip? See this [winter camping gear checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/winter-camping-gear-checklist/).[![drying sleeping bag over tent in winter](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/sleeping-bag-snow.jpg "sleeping bag snow - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/sleeping-bag-snow.jpg) ### 5. Consider a Larger Tent Not only do you need more gear for winter camping, but you the gear also tends to be much larger.  For example, winter sleeping bags are much wider than 3-season bags. If your tent is too small, you may not be able to fit all of your gear in the tent. Your puffy sleeping bag might end up touching the tent walls too, which can create a condensation disaster.[![winter camping tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/28251357713_bec2a6f265_z.jpg "winter camping tent - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/28251357713_bec2a6f265_z.jpg) ### 6. Apply Waterproofing Before Your Trip Reapply before each winter camping trip.  This is not the time to have a leaky tent or jacket! ### 7. Keep Electronics Warm Most batteries don’t work well in freezing temperatures, so keep electronics next to your body during the day and in your sleeping bag at night. \[sta\_anchor id=”clothing” /\] ## Clothing ### 8. Resist the Urge to Wear Extra Layers It’s easy to put on too many layers, especially in the morning before you’ve had to warm up. Then you get active and start sweating through the layers. Only wear the minimal amount of clothing you need to stay comfortable on the move so you don’t sweat too much. **Bonus Tip: Tuck in and cinch up!** You want to make sure your insulating layers aren’t extending past your shell or they can get covered with snow, which promptly melts and gets your clothes wet.[![winter camping gear](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/32407297934_5ab403dd1b_z.jpg "winter camping gear - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/32407297934_5ab403dd1b_z.jpg) ### 9. Invest in Wool Base Layers Just like during any other time of the year, use [three-layer clothing method](https://momgoescamping.com/3-layers-clothing-system/) when camping in winter. But, when camping in winter, the material choice matters even more. For winter camping you really want wool base layers. Wool is warmer, wicks moisture better, still insulates well when wet, and doesn’t smell nearly as bad as synthetics (seriously, your tent will stink if you wear synthetics!). [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/good-base-layers.jpg "base layers for winter camping - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/good-base-layers.jpg)Me in my Kari Traa Merino base layers Also read Is Merino Wool Worth It ### 10. Choose a Hard shell with Good Ventilation A hardshell is usually better than a softshell for winter camping.  The softshell will only keep you warm while you are active. Once you stop moving, you will get cold quickly.  By contrast, hardshell jackets trap heat well. It’s important that your winter hardshell has good ventilation though. Otherwise you will end up sweating. Unless it is actively snowing, you’ll probably keep your hardshell off while moving around. ### 11. Allow Body Heat to Travel - **Keep clothing loose to create a “chimney.”** Loose clothing will trap air and keep your circulation going. It also allows warm air from your body to flow upwards to warm your face. - **Wear suspenders instead of a belt.**It’s a lot more comfortable and allows heat to travel up towards your core. ### 12. Layer Your Hands and Feet Too Just like you need to layer clothing on your body, you also need to layer your hands and feet.  Otherwise they end up wet and cold. For your feet, this means wearing a liner sock and insulating sock (like a thick wool sock). Your boot is the shell layer.  Also read: [How to Keep Feet Warm Hiking in Winter](https://momgoescamping.com/keep-feet-warm-hiking-winter/) For your hands, you wear a liner glove with an insulating glove over it and a shell mitt on top of this.  Some mitts have an insulating layer in them already, so you don’t have to put on three separate layers.  See these [best winter hiking mitts](https://momgoescamping.com/best-winter-hiking-gloves/). [![Hestra Gloves Heli Three-Finger Insulated Gloves](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Hestra-Gloves-Heli-Three-Finger-Insulated-Gloves-REI-Co-op-copy.jpg "Hestra Gloves Heli Three-Finger Insulated Gloves REI Co-op copy - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Hestra-Gloves-Heli-Three-Finger-Insulated-Gloves-REI-Co-op-copy.jpg)These hardcore [Hestra gloves](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F872756%2Fhestra-gloves-heli-three-finger-insulated-gloves) have a removable liner ### 12. Bring Spares It’s easy to lose mittens, hats and scarfs when camping.  This can quickly mean frostbite, so you’ll want AT LEAST one spare of each. You’ll also want to bring **two pairs of liner socks per day**.  If your feet get wet, you can change into a dry pair. ### 13. Keep Boots from Freezing Even if you wear gaiters, your boots will still likely end up wet.  When you go to bed, the wet boots can freeze into a solid block! Yes, your boots will “thaw out” once you put them on, but it’s uncomfortable to put them on. And, depending on the conditions, it could take HOURS thaw out boots and your feet might already have frostbite by then. **Prevent Boots from Freezing at Night:** 1. Bring a lightweight waterproof bag with you. Or, invert your sleeping bag stuff sack for this purpose. 2. Put your boots in the bag and then put them in your sleeping bag. 3. Or wrap the bagged bots in some clothing and use them as a pillow. **How to thaw frozen boots:** 1. Put hand warmers into each boot before putting them on. 2. Or bring two water bottles. Put hot water in the bottles, wrap a sock around the bottles, and put one bottle in each boot. 3. Don’t use a fire to thaw frozen boots. You’re more likely to melt them! ### 14. Don’t cover your mouth  As tempting as it will be, don’t cover your mouth or even your chin. Condensation from your breath will moisten the balaclava or buff, causing ice to form over it and give you frostbite. ### 15. Protect Exposed Skin Cold, dry winter air will quickly chap your exposed skin – especially your lips and around your nose.  This is unsightly and painful!  Use Vaseline or balm (I like [this one](https://amzn.to/2FyzMjp)) to coat all of your exposed skin. ### 16. Pack Insulated Booties After a long day of hiking in snow boots, you’ll be happy to have soft, warm booties to put on so your feet can breathe. [These booties](https://momgoescamping.com/best-cold-weather-camp-shoes-booties/) are all good picks. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/camp-booties-for-cold-weather-with-soles-and-good-traction-1024x341.jpg "camp booties for cold weather with soles and good traction - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/camp-booties-for-cold-weather-with-soles-and-good-traction.jpg)From L to R Baffin Base Camp The North Face Thermoball booties and Acorn Slouch Boots \[sta\_anchor id=”setting-up” /\] ## Setting Up Camp in Winter ### 17. Start Early When camping or hiking in winter, setting up camp is more difficult and takes much longer.  Like when you need to set up your tent with gloves on. Or have to trample down snow to make a kitchen. Remember that daylight hours are limited in winter.  Make sure you give yourself plenty of time to set up camp. **Bonus Tip:** Wear a watch so you can keep track of the time. You won’t want to pull your phone out with gloved hands! ### 18. Find a Good Site Even if you are exhausted, spend the extra time to find the perfect spot to set up camp. It will make winter camping more comfortable and safe. **Pitch by:** - **Landmarks:** To help you find your way back to camp - **Natural wind blocks:** Otherwise you may need to build a snow wall for a wind break. - **Running water:** It will save you time and fuel since you won’t have to melt snow. - **Sunlight access:** Pitch somewhere the rising sun will hit your tent, warming it up faster in the morning so frost melts and you can dry gear. ### 19. Clear or Pack Snow Never pitch your tent on unpacked snow. - Your body heat can melt the snow underneath the tent, causing you to sink down. - If the temperature suddenly gets warmer, the snow under the tent will melt and cause your tent to collapse into a puddle. - You can tear a hole in the tent when you step into it on soft snow. If the snow isn’t deep, it’s best to clear it away completely.  In deep snow, you’ll want to pack it down. Wait for at least 10 minutes after packing so the snow has time to harden. ### 20. Use Snow Anchors Instead of Pegs In snowy conditions, you won’t be able to stake the tent into the ground.  Instead, you’ll need to use one of these alternative methods. Of the three, parachute anchors are the easiest because you don’t have to dig up snow. **Also read: [How to Stake Out a Tent in Any Condition](https://momgoescamping.com/how-stake-out-tent-instructions/)**[![how to stake a tent in sand or snow](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/how-to-stake-tent-sand-snow.jpg "how to stake tent sand snow - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/how-to-stake-tent-sand-snow.jpg) \[sta\_anchor id=”warm-dry” /\] ## Staying Warm and Dry ### 21. Use a Heater It is not cheating to use a heater when camping in winter! You’ve got several options: - **Wood heaters** - **Propane heaters** - **Candle lantern heaters** Wood heaters need to be used in tents with a chimney flue, such as a hot tent. Propane heaters can be used in normal tents, so long as you have adequate space around them and ventilation. For backcountry camping, a small tea light heater – ideally held in a candle lantern for safety – can produce a surprising amount of heat. Read this post about [**the best tent heaters and how to use them safely**](https://momgoescamping.com/best-safe-tent-heaters/). [![uco candle lantern](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/uco-candle-lantern-copy.jpg "uco candle lantern copy - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/uco-candle-lantern-copy.jpg)The [UCO candle lantern](https://amzn.to/3RVFXUR) produces a surprising amount of heat ### 22. Be Careful about Hot Water Bottle One of the most common winter camping tips is to put a bottle with hot water into your sleeping bag before bed. Doing this is VERY RISKY. If the bottle leaks, YOUR SLEEPING BAG WILL GET WET and lose its insulating properties. You also suffer evaporative heat loss. Just watch this [video of a winter camping trip gone wrong](https://youtu.be/fSl2ogVIhAc?t=1011): the guy’s water bottle leaked and drenched his sleeping bag and pad.  Luckily he had a down suit or probably would have needed emergency evacuation for hypothermia. Note that even good water bottles are prone to leaks in winter because: - **Water freezes in the threads** so the bottle lid doesn’t close properly. - **Pressure builds up** in the bottle because of the steam, which can cause the bottle to crack and leak. Your sleeping bag is what keeps you alive while winter camping.  It’s really not worth the risk of water leaking just to warm up a bit faster. #### If you do must use the hot water bottle trick… 1. Only use water bottles which can handle boiling water. Otherwise they might crack. 2. Pour the boiling water into the water bottle and close the lid. 3. Give the bottle a bit of a shake. This will melt any frozen water in the threads. 4. Open the lid to let pressure escape. 5. Repeat this 3 more times. This is the only way to ensure there isn’t too much pressure in the bottle. 6. Keep the water bottle in a wool sock or dry bag to catch any leaks, just in case. ### 23. Prevent Condensation Our bodies lose about ½ a liter of water while sleeping through perspiration and breathing. This water builds up in the tent as vapor.  When the warmer air in the tent touches the colder tent walls, condensation can form. If the tent is really poorly ventilated, then condensation might even rain down on you from above! Your sleeping bag or other crucial gear can easily end up wet. Since wet = cold, condensation can be a dangerous problem. You’ll need to take steps like ventilating your tent and wiping down tent walls to prevent condensation. For more info, read: [How to Prevent Tent Condensation](https://momgoescamping.com/tent-condensation/) [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/ice-crystals-from-condensation-min.jpg "ice crystals from condensation-min - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/ice-crystals-from-condensation-min.jpg)On very cold nights the condensation will even turn into ice crystals on the tent wall It will melt in the morning sunlight and get everything wet ### 24. Use a Vapor Barrier Liner Even when you aren’t doing much, the human body releases approximately 400ml of water per day as perspiration. If you are active – such as doing camp tasks in the snow – you can easily sweat over ½ liter per hour. This sweat normally would be dissipated through your layers. However, when the air outside is colder, it ends up condensing in your insulation layer. The wet insulation loses its loft so can’t trap heat well. Your skin ends up wet, so you get cold from evaporative heat loss. A vapor barrier liner (VBL) is a waterproof barrier that you wear over your base layer.  VBLs can are often worn on the hands, feet, core and inside down sleeping bags.It prevents sweat from moving to the insulation layer.  You may feel clammy, but you stay warm. ### 25. Don’t put your face inside the sleeping bag. As tempting as it may be, never wriggle down into your sleeping bag so it covers your face.  Your breath actually contains a lot of vapor and this vapor will get your sleeping bag wet.  Instead, use a balaclava to keep your face warm at night. ###  26. Get Warm before Bed Slipping into a cold sleeping bag can be a miserable experience, and it can take a while for the bag to warm up if you are cold before you get in.  Instead, you should warm up before you get in your bag.  Do this by: - **Eat before going to bed**: The metabolic boost means your body has calories to burn for staying warm while sleeping**.** - **Run around before getting into bed:** This will get your blood going and increase body temperature before you get into your sleeping bag.  The sleeping bag will retain some of that warmth. **Also read these [13 Pro Tips to Sleep Warmer in Your Sleeping Bag (Regardless of Rating)](https://momgoescamping.com/warmer-sleeping-bag/)** ### 27. Sleep with Your Feet Inside Your Pack So long as it isn’t going to squish your sleeping bag insulation, sleep with your feet inside your pack. It helps trap heat better.  Plus, if you end up touching the tent walls, the pack will keep your sleeping bag dry. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/sleeping-bag-in-backpack-cold-weather-camping.jpg "put sleeping bag feet into backpack to stay warm - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/sleeping-bag-in-backpack-cold-weather-camping.jpg)Putting your feet into your pack not only keeps them warmer but also keeps your sleeping bag from getting wet from condensation \[sta\_anchor id=”food-water” /\] ## Food, Water and Winter Kitchen ### 28. Use White Gas Stove and Fuel Forget about gas canister stoves. These stoves are very inefficient or stop working completely in cold weather. Yes, you can do things like sleep with the canister but it’s not worth the hassle and inefficiency on a true winter camping trip. Use white gas instead. This fuel works well in sub-freezing temperatures. It actually ends up being cheaper because it is so much more efficient than gas canisters in winter. **Important:** - **Bring rubber gloves!** If you need to refuel your stove, be warned that[White gas can “supercool”](https://www.princeton.edu/~oa/safety/hypocold.shtml) in cold weather. If spill liquid fuel on your hands while refueling, you can get instant frostbite on your hands. - **Pack extra fuel:** If you plan on melting snow as your main water source, plan on bringing two to three times as much fuel as you would have normally. - **Don’t forget about your stove sinking.** The heat from your stove will melt the snow underneath. Either clear the snow underneath it or have a small insulated pad to put it on. ### 29. Calculate Extra Calories Your body will burn through fuel quickly to stay warm, and from the extra effort it takes to hike through snow.  It’s likely you will need at least 4,000 calories of food per day.  If you are a larger person or doing really intense activities, you might need 6,000+ calories per day ([source](http://www.d.umn.edu/~tbates/pep3507-1/WinterCampingNutrition.pdf)). How many calories of food to bring?  [One study found](https://www.statnews.com/2017/12/20/exercising-cold-calories-burned/) people used 34% more calories when hiking in at temperatures of 15-23F compared to 50F.   [Other research](https://www.active.com/nutrition/articles/winter-and-nutrition-fueling-for-cold-weather-exercise) puts the number at 23% and the Army only calculates 10% more calories for soldiers exercising in cold weather. Use **[this calculator to figure out how much food to bring backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/how-much-food-bring-backpacking-calculator/)** on a warm-weather trip. Then budget 25-50% more calories.  It’s better to play it safe than sorry! [![backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/backpacking-dehydrator-recipes-ebook.jpg "backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/backpacking-dehydrator-recipes-ebook.jpg) \*Not sure what to eat? [**Check out my ebook.**](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/) It has 50+ calorie-dense backpacking recipes, including lots of meals which don’t require cooking. ### 30. Leave “Starter Water” for Melting Snow When melting snow for water, remember to leave about a half cup of water as a “starter” for the next batch. Why? If you just pile snow into your pot, the bottom of the pot will come in direct contact with very hot flames without a way to transfer the heat upwards. You will end up warping your pot!!!  Plus, melting snow goes a lot faster if there is already a bit of water in the pot. ### 31. Store Water Correctly Now that you’ve melted snow, you will need to transfer it to a water bottle.  Having a wide-mouth bottle makes this a lot easier. Once it’s in the bottle, you then need to prevent the water from freezing. This usually means tricks like keeping the water bottle in an internal pocket, storing it upside down or using an insulator. For more, read: [Best winter water bottles](https://momgoescamping.com/water-bottles-insulators-winter/) plus how to keep water from freezing. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Liberty-Mountain-Relags.jpg "Liberty Mountain Relags - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Liberty-Mountain-Relags.jpg)The hunesdorf bottle also called Relags bottle is by far considered the best winter hiking water bottle [Get it here](https://amzn.to/4hXo8Ps) \[sta\_anchor id=”hygiene” /\] ## Hygiene ### 32. Bring a Pee Bottle Getting up in the middle of the night to pee in winter is no fun.  But it’s also not fun to lie in your sleeping bag unable to sleep because you have to pee so badly but don’t want to leave the warmth.   The solution?  A pee bottle. A wide-mouthed Nalgene bottle works best for this.  Ladies – you can use a [Go Girl urination device](https://amzn.to/2FKICuF) to pee directly into the bottle instead of risk peeing all over yourself.   Remember to label the bottle so you don’t accidentally drink from it! ### 33. Follow Leave No Trace Leave No Trace still applies in winter!  Ideally, you should always pack out your human waste.  However, the [LNT](https://lnt.org/14-winter-recreation-tips/) does say it is okay to bury poo in snow if you can’t pack it out. Remember that the poo will still be there when the snow starts melting, and will be a disgusting sight for other nature-lovers.  Be sure you bury your poo deep in snow and FAR AWAY from trail routes.  It also needs to be 200 feet from water sources. Toilet paper and wipes still need to be packed out.  Bring doubled zip-lock bags for this.  You can cover the exterior bag in duct tape so the contents aren’t visible. Or line the bag with foil so you can’t see inside. ### 34. Don’t Get Lost When Going to the Bathroom **When going to the bathroom off-trail, be sure you can find your way back.**  It is very easy to get lost in the snowy whiteness!  Tie a bright-colored bandana to a tree within visibility of your bathroom spot, or make sure your hiking buddy stays in view. ## Bonus Tip: Bring Morale Boosters One thing about winter camping in the snow which doesn’t get talked about much is how boring it can get.  The daylight hours are very short and the nights are very long.   Assuming you are done with camp tasks and dinner by 7pm, you’ve still got nearly 12 hours until sunrise!  You could go to bed early, but then you’ll wake up at 4am with nothing to do. **To keep the winter nights from getting boring or downright depressing, bring some morale boosters like:** - **A lantern.** The light at night really improves mood! Wind-up lanterns are great because you don’t have to worry about extra batteries and winding gives you something to do. - **Entertainment**, like a book, radio, or deck of cards. Preferably it’s something you can do while wearing gloves. - **Really good food.** You’ll enjoy the night more when you’ve got a badass hot meal to eat. - Or, something to smoke is lighter weight than alcohol. J Plus it won’t make you have to pee a zillion times like alcohol does. --- ###### **Image credits:** “[Tent](https://www.flickr.com/photos/blachswan/28251357713/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [blachswan](https://www.flickr.com/people/blachswan/)“[NZ \| camping](https://www.flickr.com/photos/130089789@N02/21631345586/)” ([CC BY-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/2.0/)) by [thestritzi](https://www.flickr.com/people/130089789@N02/)“[Safety tent](https://www.flickr.com/photos/evilmutent/14694765470/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [hugochisholm](https://www.flickr.com/people/evilmutent/)“camping!” https://www.flickr.com/photos/designsquid/5138514822/ ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) “[Snow Camping](https://www.flickr.com/photos/bdbhaiti/32407297934/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [bdbhaiti](https://www.flickr.com/people/bdbhaiti/) “[Upper Mesa Falls in Winter #1 – Idaho](https://www.flickr.com/photos/petechar/15870440445/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [petechar](https://www.flickr.com/people/petechar/) “[Sun Valley](https://www.flickr.com/photos/jurvetson/349585763/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [jurvetson](https://www.flickr.com/people/jurvetson/) “[Snow Camping](https://www.flickr.com/photos/bdbhaiti/32868042500/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [bdbhaiti](https://www.flickr.com/people/bdbhaiti/) “[A little breezy down low (by J. Valdez)](https://www.flickr.com/photos/flickbergers/39652542435/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Tim Berger](https://www.flickr.com/people/flickbergers/) “[Tent](https://www.flickr.com/photos/blachswan/28251357713/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [blachswan](https://www.flickr.com/people/blachswan/)“[NZ \| camping](https://www.flickr.com/photos/130089789@N02/21631345586/)” ([CC BY-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/2.0/)) by [thestritzi](https://www.flickr.com/people/130089789@N02/)“[Safety tent](https://www.flickr.com/photos/evilmutent/14694765470/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [hugochisholm](https://www.flickr.com/people/evilmutent/)“camping!” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) “[the 2 place-tent of Andreï at Camp3](https://www.flickr.com/photos/twiga_269/5192447061/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [twiga269 ॐ FEMEN](https://www.flickr.com/people/twiga_269/) “[Sarek NP (S) – Full moon](https://www.flickr.com/photos/lapland/6975780865/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Michiel van Nimwegen](https://www.flickr.com/people/lapland/) “[Condensation crystals on my tent](https://www.flickr.com/photos/alanenglish/3513928691/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Al\_HikesAZ](https://www.flickr.com/people/alanenglish/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety --- ### [Winter Camping 101: How to Melt Snow for Drinking Water (With Expert Tips)](https://momgoescamping.com/melt-snow-drinking-water/) **Published:** January 31, 2024 **Author:** Diane **Content:** If you are going camping in winter or snowy conditions, you might need to rely on snow for your drinking water.  Melting snow can be an arduous, annoying task though — especially if you bring the wrong pot or don’t know a few tricks to speed up the process. This guide will go over everything you need to know so you can melt snow like a pro. **Also read: [Winter Camping Guide for Beginners](https://momgoescamping.com/winter-camping/)** ## How to Melt Snow for Drinking Water ### One Pot Method #### 1. Put a bit of starter water in the pot. The “starter water” is an inch or so of water.  It’s really important that remember to save some water for this! If you just put a pot full of snow directly over the flame, you’ll scorch your pot or possibly even burn a hole in it. [![melt snow for water in pot](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/melt-snow-for-water-in-pot.jpg "melt snow for water in pot - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/melt-snow-for-water-in-pot.jpg) #### 2. Put snow in the pot. Ideally you have a shovel or a mug for scooping snow into the pot. #### 3. Cover pot and start melting snow. Yes, you absolutely should use a lid when melting snow! Using a lid helps conserve energy so you use less fuel.  The lid also means you won’t lose water as escaping steam.  If you are melting snow over a fire, then you need the lid to stop ashes from getting in. #### 4. Continuously add more snow. As the snow melts, you’ll need to add more snow.  You’ll also want to stir or poke the snow in the pot a bit to push it into the water and closer to the flames. [![melting snow for drinking water takes a long time](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/melting-snow-for-drinking-water-pro-tip-dig-self-place-for-feet.jpg "melting snow for drinking water pro tip dig self place for feet - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/melting-snow-for-drinking-water-pro-tip-dig-self-place-for-feet.jpg)The mug is useful for scooping more snow into the pot ### Two-Pot Method If you really want to increase efficiency, then use the two-pot method.  Instead of putting a lid on the first pot, you put a second pot filled with snow on it.  The rising heat from the first pot starts melting the snow in the second pot.  Because it’s not directly on the flame, you don’t have to use starter water in the second pot. [![melt snow for water with two pot method](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/melt-snow-for-water-with-two-pot-method.jpg "melt snow for water with two pot method - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/melt-snow-for-water-with-two-pot-method.jpg) [![melting snow for drinking water two pot method](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/melting-snow-for-drinking-water-two-pot-method.jpg "melting snow for drinking water two pot method - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/melting-snow-for-drinking-water-two-pot-method.jpg) ### Pro Tip: Use a Bag for Gathering Snow Bring a clean trash bag or waterproof sack.  Fill it up with clean snow and keep it near your stove.  When it’s time to add more snow to the pot, just scoop some from the bag.This method works especially well if you are melting snow from within your shelter.  You sit in the shelter (protected from the wind and bad weather) and keep the stove in the vestibule.  Then there is no need to get up and go outside to get more snow for your pot. ## What Pot Is Best for Melting Snow? Forget about trying to be ultralight and compact.  **When melting snow, you need a large pot.** Remember that melting snow can take a LONG time.  The smaller your pot, the longer it will take.  With a 1.3 liter pot, expect it to take 10 minutes to produce 1 liter of water. You’ll also have to mind the process more, such as by adding snow more frequently and stirring it around. For this reason, it’s worth it to bring a larger pot. For one person, you’ll need *at least* a 1.5 liter pot but 2L is even better.  For groups of two to four people, you’ll want a 4L pot. ### Other Useful Features: - **Wide:** A wide pot makes it easier to scoop more snow into the pot. It’s also more efficient because you won’t lose heat over the sides of the pot.  Just make sure the pot isn’t so wide that it becomes unstable on your stove. - **Pour Spout:** This is really a game changer. - **Glove-friendly handle:** The handle should be large so you don’t risk dropping a pot full of hot water. - **Bail handle:** This is useful if you ever need to hang your pot over a fire to melt snow. ### Recommended: 1 [![MSR Big Titan Kettle](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/31BG5z-9XGL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MYZNTIQ?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [MSR Big Titan Kettle](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MYZNTIQ?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) - 2 liters - Titanium - Pour spout - Weighs 6.4 oz [At Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MYZNTIQ?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) 2 [![TOAKS Pot](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/31E9AHut2qL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00F7TZD6K?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [TOAKS Pot](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00F7TZD6K?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) - 1.6 liters - Titanium - Has bail handle - Weighs 7.4 oz [At Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00F7TZD6K?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1)[Campsaver](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=358fd954-c6b8-44a1-9ca9-aaad445d2dfb&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.campsaver.com%2Ftoaks-titanium-1600ml-pot-w-bail.html%20) 3 [![GSI Outdoors Kettle](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/31t3AIxijbS._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XGPVWYT?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [GSI Outdoors Kettle](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XGPVWYT?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) - 1.8 liter - Halulite aluminum - Easy to pour - Weighs 8oz [At Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XGPVWYT?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1)[REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F116070%2Fgsi-outdoors-halulite-18-qt-tea-kettle-18-liter%20) [![melting snow for drinking water pouring hot water](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/melting-snow-for-drinking-water-pouring-boiling-water.jpg "melting snow for drinking water pouring boiling water - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/melting-snow-for-drinking-water-pouring-boiling-water.jpg)A spout makes it easier to pour the water without spilling water all over your gloves and gear ## How Much Snow Do You Need for 1 Liter of Water? Fresh snow only contains ~10% water.  If you fill 2 liter pot with snow, you are only going to get approximately 200ml of water.  You’ll have to refill the pot with snow at least 5 times to get 1 liter of water. ## Do You Need to Purify Snow Water before Drinking It? No, you do not need to purify snow water.  So long as the snow is clean (not scraped off the ground or found next to animal feces, for example), it won’t contain bacteria, parasites or viruses. ### Pro Tip: Filter Water through Bandana You are bound to end up with a lot of pine needles, pieces of dirt and other debris in your snow melt.  To get this out: - Put a bandana or piece of cheesecloth over your water bottle. - Secure the bandana in place with some elastic cord. - Pour the water through this to filter out debris. ### Warning: Snow Can Have Algae or Cyanobacteria Blooms These organisms can adapted to survive in cold temperatures.  If present, the snow will appear pink, orange, bluish-green, brown or grey.  The colors are from photosynthetic pigments which allow the microorganisms to collect energy from the sun. Filtering or boiling can kill the organisms but won’t get rid of toxins they produce.  In short, if the snow has strange colors, don’t use it for drinking water! [![pink snow algae blooms](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/pink-snow-algae-blooms.jpg "pink snow algae blooms - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/pink-snow-algae-blooms.jpg)Algae and cyanobacteria blooms on snow in the Beartooth Mountains  The pink snow is from algae blooms  The orange and blue gree snow is from cyanobacteria ## Other Tips ### Use a Windscreen Melting snow uses a lot of fuel. Having a windscreen will help conserve fuel and speeds up the process.  It’s really worth it in this situation! [![melting snow for drinking water use a windscreen](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/melting-snow-for-drinking-water-use-a-windscreen.jpg "melting snow for drinking water use a windscreen - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/melting-snow-for-drinking-water-use-a-windscreen.jpg) ### Consider a Pot Just for Melting Snow Washing pots in cold weather is NOT fun.  So, chances are you will be a bit lazy when cleaning dinner pots.  There will be food and oil residue left in the pot.   Then, when you go to melt snow in this same pot, you end up with funky water. So, consider bringing one pot for dinner and another for snow.  Alternatively, consider making hot soak meals in pouches so you don’t have to cook food in the pot at all. ### Melt Enough Water for the Next Morning It SUCKS waiting around in the morning for snow to melt. You will freeze your butt off and lose time.  Instead, melt enough water the night before so you have water ready for breakfast and extra for hiking. Then you can melt more at lunch time.  This way you utilize your time well but don’t have to carry an entire day’s worth of water around. ### Make a Base for Your Stove Bring a piece of pie pan or Masonite board to serve as a base for your stove. Otherwise your stove will start slowly sinking as the snow beneath it melts – possibly causing your pot of water to topple over in the process. ## Emergency Methods of Melting Snow You should never eat snow for water. Your body will have to use a huge amount of energy to turn the snow into a liquid.  Not only does this make you dangerously cold, but burning energy uses up water.  This is why eating snow actually dehydrates you! But what if your stove fails to light because of the cold temperatures? Or you didn’t calculate fuel needs well and run out?  In those situations, you can use one of these emergency methods of melting snow. ### Melting Snow Over a Fire Ideally, you know [these campfire cooking methods](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-cook-over-a-campfire/).  Then you can melt snow in your pot over a fire. If you don’t have a pot for some reason,  you can still melt snow over a fire. There are three methods: 1. Snow in a cloth bag: Put snow in a cloth bag or create a “bag” out of a shirt. Hang the bag near the fire. Put a bottle underneath to collect the water as it melts. 2. Hang water bottle near fire: Fill your bottle with snow and hang it close to the fire so the radiant heat can melt the snow. 3. Snow on a stick: This works if the snow is in clumps. Push a stick into a snow bank near your fire. Take a clump of snow and put it on the stick. Put a water bottle underneath the snow to catch drops as it melts. [![melt snow for water without pot](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/melt-snow-for-water-without-pot.jpg "melt snow for water without pot - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/melt-snow-for-water-without-pot.jpg) ### Using the Sun Put the snow on a black plastic bag and set it out in the sun.  A small amount of it will melt.  The trick is pouring the melted snow from the bag without getting yourself all wet. You can also put the snow in a plastic baggie and set it out on a dark surface. [![melting snow for water with solar sun power](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/melting-snow-for-water-with-solar-sun-power-1.jpg "melting snow for water with solar sun power - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/melting-snow-for-water-with-solar-sun-power-1.jpg) --- ## Want this information in PRINTABLE format? **Then you need my Camping Cheat Sheets.** The manual has 42 pages crammed with illustrated guides about everything from campfire cooking to wilderness first aid. 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Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety --- ### [How to Treat Hypothermia in the Wilderness (Plus "Burrito Wrap" Infographic)](https://momgoescamping.com/hypothermia-treatment-wilderness/) **Published:** April 13, 2024 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I’ve only had hypothermia once in my life. I was nine years old and swimming in a KOA camp pool alone. The sun set and, as it does in the mountains, the temperatures dropped suddenly.  When I got out of the pool, I was so cold that I couldn’t move. I began to shiver uncontrollably and felt so weak that I couldn’t move. My skin started turning pale and my lips were blue. Luckily, my case of hypothermia was mild. After getting into dry clothes, bundling up, and eating lots of chocolate, I was fine.  But the experience taught me how easy it is to become hypothermic – especially if you get wet.  Because of evaporative cooling, you can get hypothermia even when it isn’t that cold out. Surprisingly, most hypothermia deaths occur at temperatures of 30 to 50F, probably because people don’t realize there is a danger at these “warmer” temperatures.  Thus, if you are going into nature, it is particularly important that you know how to treat hypothermia in the field. I’ll go over the steps in detail. You can see the infographic for the hypothermia “burrito wrap” below. 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Offer sugary beverages and simple sugars (like juice or candy) to help replace lost calories quickly.  Warm, sugary drinks are the best option. However, it’s more important that the drink or food is sugary than warm. Once the patient’s calories have been restored and they are alert, you can encourage them to exercise. If you are able to do this quickly, the patient will usually be re-warmed and won’t have to be evacuated.  However, you should still consider your exit plan and call for help if you have any doubt. #### Don’t: - Offer caffeine or alcohol - Try to rapidly re-warm the patient, such as by putting them in hot water - Make the patient sit up - Let the patient fall asleep - Force the patient to exercise/move around before their calories have been restored --- ### Moderate Hypothermia [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/wrap-patient.jpg "wrap patient - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/wrap-patient.jpg)Moderate hypothermia patients are still responsive but evacuation is probably needed **Symptoms:** - Core body temperature 82-90°F - Less shivering - Slowed heartbeat and breathing - May pee themselves - May hallucinate **Treatment:** As with mild hypothermia, your first steps are to remove wet clothing. If possible, apply heat packs to major artery areas. The heat packs should be wrapped in something so they don’t burn the patient’s skin. Afterwards, you’ll need to insulate the patient by putting them in a hypothermia wrap. It’s important that you handle the patient gently.  At this stage of hypothermia, the patient’s heart has slowed down.  Rough handling can cause the cardiac arrest.  While it is possible to rewarm the patient, you should still plan your evacuation. #### Don’t: - Delay evacuation - Force the patient to eat or drink - Try to rapidly re-warm the patient - Handle the patient roughly --- ### Severe Hypothermia [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/hypo-wrap-1.jpg "hypo wrap 1 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/hypo-wrap-1.jpg)*Severe hypothermia patients are no longer responsive and must be immediately evacuated* **Symptoms:** - Core body temperature less than 82°F - Shivering stops - Unconscious and no longer responsive - Heartbeat is slow, faint, and may be irregular - Slow breathing - Stiff muscles **Treatment:** Severe hypothermia is life-threatening.  There’s almost no chance that the person will be re-warmed in the field, so you will need to evacuate.  To prepare the patient for evacuation, you need to get them in a hypothermia wrap.  If the person’s heart stops, be prepared to perform CPR. ## How to Do a Hypothermia “Burrito” Wrap [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/hypothermia-wrap-instructions.jpg "hypothermia wrap instructions - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/hypothermia-wrap-instructions.jpg)Click to see the full size infographic **Notes:** - These instructions require you to have three sleeping bags or blankets. If you only have one sleeping bag or blanket, then skip steps #3 and #9.  You can also use other items for insulation, such as dry spare clothing. - The bundle should NOT be pretty.  It will be huge and bulky.  The more insulation, the better. ### Instructions 1. Lay a tarp on the ground. You can also use another waterproof material, such as a tent fly. 2. Put a sleeping pad in the middle of the tarp. - If the tarp is small, lay the pad on the diagonal. - If the tarp is very large, lay the pad out horizontally. 3. Put a zipped-up sleeping bag or blanket on the sleeping pad. 4. Put an open sleeping bag or blanket on top of this. 5. Add a vapor barrier liner (VBL), such as a space blanket, on top of the open sleeping bag. - If no full-size VBL is available, consider making a “diaper” for the patient out of a trash bag. 6. Lay the patient on the VBL. 1. Make sure their hands are crossed at their chest 7. Add a heat source to the patient’s major arteries 8. Wrap the open sleeping bag + VBL around the patient. 9. Put another zipped-up sleeping bag over the wrapped patient. 10. Wrap the tarp around the entire bundle. Do the legs first then the sides. 11. Tie up the bundle. [![A hypothermia wrap](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/hypo-wrap-2.jpg "hypo wrap 2 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/hypo-wrap-2.jpg)When properly done a hypothermia wrap will be huge and bulky ### Applying Heat Sources If possible, apply heat sources to the hypothermic patient.  This can be a bottle of hot water, heated rocks, or chemical heat packs.  The heat source should be wrapped in something so it isn’t in direct contact with the patient’s skin. Lay the heat sources on the patient’s main arteries. The best places are: - Under palms - At ankles - Behind or at sides of neck - Armpits - Groin ### Should Someone Else Be in the Hypothermia Wrap? It generally isn’t advised to have someone else crawl into the hypothermia wrap with the patient.  While the other person’s body heat might help warm up the hypothermic patient, body-to-body warming generally isn’t very effective. It’s harder to evacuate a two-person hypothermia wrap. You’d need to have a much larger tarp and more insulation materials to wrap two people. Even if you have all of these materials, you probably won’t be able to properly close the bundle, so heat will escape. Further, if someone enters the bundle, that person won’t be able to help with other tasks.  They’d be better off doing something like creating a fire (here’s how to do it [in the rain](https://momgoescamping.com/make-fire-rain/)) to boil water for heat packs (here’s [how to boil snow effectively](https://momgoescamping.com/melt-snow-drinking-water/)) ## Do You Remove Wet Clothing from a Hypothermic Patient? Wet clothes make hypothermia worse because evaporation will cause the patient to lose even more body heat. Because of this, it’s generally recommended to remove the patient’s wet clothing. If it’s not realistic to get them into dry clothes, you wrap the patient up naked. However, in cold and windy environments, removing the patient’s clothing could make the heat loss worse. Instead of removing clothing, you can wrap the patient in a vapor barrier liner (VBL), which is just a fancy way to call any waterproof material.  The VBL prevents water from evaporating off of the patient’s skin, so they don’t lose more heat despite being wet. Trash bags, plastic sheeting and Mylar blankets are all examples of VBLs. **Not sure when to remove clothes or when to keep them on? Use these guidelines:** - **Damp or wet clothes and the patient can get to a warm shelter quickly:** Remove clothes - **Damp clothes and no shelter available:** Leave clothes on and wrap patient in a VBL - **Very wet clothes:** Remove clothing *and* use vapor barrier ### Hypothermia, Urination and “Diapers” Another benefit of using a VBL is that hypothermic patients often pee themselves, causing their insulation layers to get wet.  The VBL will help keep the insulation layers dry even if this happens. If you don’t have a large waterproof material to wrap the patient in, consider making a “diaper” for the patient out of a trash bag. --- ###### Sources: <https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25712295/> <https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22445055/> <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK545239/> <https://www.weather.gov/gjt/wwpw_co_day5#:~:text=Most%20people%20are%20surprised%20to,between%2030%20and%2050%20degrees>. <https://blog.nols.edu/blog/blog-new/2015/04/24/why-snuggling-wont-treat-hypothermia-but-doesnt-hurt-either> <https://www.realfirstaid.co.uk/hypothermia> <https://blog.nols.edu/2020/2/27/treating-hypothermia-appalachian-trail> <https://dphhs.mt.gov/assets/BHDD/DDP/MedicalDirector/Hypothermia.pdf> Image credit: “[wrapped…](https://www.flickr.com/photos/ozarksredcross/4609627420/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Red Cross of Southern Missouri](https://www.flickr.com/people/ozarksredcross/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety --- ### [How to Keep Dogs Safe While Camping: Tips for Adventurous Moms](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-keep-dogs-safe-while-camping-tips-for-adventurous-moms/) **Published:** February 5, 2025 **Author:** Mom Goes Camping **Content:** # **How to Keep Dogs Safe While Camping: Tips for Adventurous Moms** Camping is a fantastic way to spend quality time with your family, explore the great outdoors, and make lifelong memories. But if you’re planning to bring your *best* friend along, making sure they are safe should be a top priority. Dogs make wonderful camping companions, but they require a little extra preparation to keep them safe and happy. Read along for tips to keep your dog safe while camping, even if you’re juggling kids, gear, and meal planning! --- ## **1. Choose a Dog-Friendly Campsite** The first step to a safe camping trip with your dog is picking the right campsite. Look for campgrounds that explicitly allow dogs and have pet-friendly amenities. Some dog friendly campsites even offer: - **Designated dog areas** for play or exercise. - **Fenced sections** to keep dogs contained. - **Shaded areas** to help dogs cool off during the day. When booking, check the campground’s rules about leashes, dog waste, and restricted areas. Knowing these ahead of time prevents surprises and ensures you and your pup can relax. --- ### **2. Pack a Doggie Camping Kit** Just like your kids, your dog needs their own gear for the trip. Here’s what to include: - **Collapsible food and [water bowls](https://amzn.to/3DIPael):** Lightweight and easy to pack. Make sure to bring enough water for your pup, especially if the campsite lacks fresh water. - **Dog food and treats:** Pack enough for the entire trip and maybe a little extra in case of delays. - **First aid supplies:** Include bandages, antiseptic wipes, and tweezers (for ticks). A dog-specific [first aid](https://amzn.to/4j8piZx) guide is a bonus. - **Leash and harness:** Opt for a sturdy, reflective leash for walks and a harness to keep your dog safe while hiking. - **Dog bed or blanket:** Something familiar from home will help your dog settle in. - **Poop bags:** Always clean up after your dog to keep the campsite tidy and respectful for other campers. - **Bug spray or repellents safe for dogs:** Protect your pup from fleas, ticks, and mosquitoes. --- ### **3. Keep Your Dog Secure** Camping sites can be full of exciting smells and wildlife, which might tempt even the most well-behaved dog to wander. Here’s how to keep them safe: - **Leash at all times:** Always keep your dog on a leash unless you’re in a designated off-leash area. - **Use a tie-out cable:** For relaxing around the campsite, a sturdy [tie-out cable](https://amzn.to/3DMDes9) gives your dog freedom while keeping them secure. - **Avoid leaving them alone:** Never leave your dog unsupervised, even in a tent or camper. Wildlife or other campers could frighten or harm them. --- ### [![dog camping sleeping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/dog_camping-2.jpg "dog_camping-2 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/dog_camping-2.jpg) ### **4. Watch for Overheating** Dogs can’t sweat like humans, so they’re more prone to overheating, especially on hot summer days. Keep an eye out for signs of heat exhaustion, such as excessive panting, drooling, or lethargy. **How to prevent overheating:** - **Provide shade:** Set up a shaded area using a tarp or portable canopy. - **Plenty of water:** Keep fresh water available at all times. - **Cool them down:** Use a wet towel to wipe down your dog’s fur or let them take a dip in a nearby stream (if safe and allowed). --- ### **5. Be Aware of Wildlife** From snakes to porcupines, wildlife can pose a serious risk to your dog. To keep them safe: - **Avoid feeding wildlife:** This can attract animals that might harm your dog. Keep food stored securely. - **Stay on trails:** Stick to marked paths where encounters with wildlife are less likely. - **Use a flashlight at night:** Shine a light ahead during evening walks to spot any critters before your dog does. If you’re camping in an area with venomous snakes or large predators, research the local wildlife and take precautions. For example, carrying a snake bite kit or bell collars to warn larger animals of your presence. --- ### **6. Prepare for Cold Nights** Temperatures can drop dramatically at night, even during summer. Keep your dog warm by: - **Bringing their bed inside the tent:** This helps them stay cozy and protected. - **Packing a dog jacket:** For short-haired or small breeds, a jacket can make a big difference. - **Sharing body heat:** If space allows, let your dog sleep with you in your sleeping bag. --- ### **7. Practice Good Camp Etiquette** Keeping your dog safe isn’t just about protecting them—it’s also about ensuring a pleasant experience for everyone at the campsite. Follow these guidelines: - **Minimise barking:** A barking dog can disturb other campers. Keep your dog busy with toys and exercise to reduce boredom. - **Clean up waste:** Always carry poop bags and dispose of them properly. - **Respect leash rules:** Even if your dog is friendly, other campers might not appreciate an off-leash dog running up to them. --- ### **8. Check for Ticks and Injuries Daily** After a day of adventuring, give your dog a thorough check for ticks, burrs, or injuries. Pay close attention to their paws, as sharp rocks and hot surfaces can cause cuts or burns. If you find a tick, remove it promptly using tweezers or a tick-removal tool. Monitor your dog for any signs of illness, such as fever or loss of appetite, which could indicate tick-borne diseases. [![dog camping safety](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/dog_camping_1.jpg "dog_camping_1 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/dog_camping_1.jpg) --- ### **9. Have an Emergency Plan** Despite your best efforts, accidents can happen. Be prepared: - **Know the nearest vet clinic:** Before your trip, research the closest emergency vet to your campsite. - **Carry your dog’s medical records:** Especially if they have any allergies or ongoing conditions. - **Bring a [pet first aid kit](https://amzn.to/420o8JB):** You can buy pre-made kits or[ assemble one yourself](https://momgoescamping.com/dog-first-aid-kit/). --- ### **10. Make the Trip Fun for Your Dog** Camping should be as enjoyable for your dog as it is for you and your family. Include activities they’ll love, like: - Short hikes tailored to their fitness level. - Fetch or tug-of-war games at the campsite. - Swimming in a dog-friendly lake or stream. A happy dog is a safe dog, so keeping them engaged and exercised reduces the risk of misbehavior or stress. --- ### **Conclusion** Camping with your dog can be a rewarding experience for the entire family, but it requires planning and vigilance to ensure everyone stays safe. By choosing the right campsite, packing essential gear, and keeping your dog secure and comfortable, you’ll set the stage for a trip full of fun, bonding, and adventure. With these tips in mind, you can confidently head into the great outdoors with your furry best friend and make memories that will last a lifetime. --- ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/c030bd8f34d2d0699ac133909e783553a875586502d845a4fa922fd39a96004f?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Mom Goes Camping [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/mom-goes-camping/) **Categories:** Camping Safety --- ### [Using 18650 Batteries as a Lightweight Power Bank for Backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/18650-backpacking-power/) **Published:** March 16, 2025 **Author:** Diane **Content:** There are now a lot of great [ultralight power banks for backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/best-backpacking-power-banks/). However, one interesting solution is to use 18650 batteries and use them as a power source.  To make this work, you need a charger that also has discharging capabilities: then you can plug in your phone or other devices and charge them with the 18650 cells. You can also use 21700 and 26800 cells, though 18650 are the most popular. ## What Are 18650 Batteries? Technically called cells and not batteries, 18650 batteries are rechargeable lithium-ion batteries.   They get their name because they measure 18mm x 65mm. Some newer 18650 batteries are actually a bit larger than this though. Compared to standard rechargeable (NiMH-LSD) batteries, 18650 cells are much more power dense and thus lighter-weight. They also are also more efficient: in real-world situations, you are going to get more capacity with a 18650 than a NiMH-LSD battery. ## 18650 Batteries vs. Power Bank Most power banks actually contain 18650 battery cells or other li-ion cells inside their casing. Thus, 18650 cells and power banks have a lot of similarities when it comes to performance.  However, there are some important differences when it comes to backpacking. Here’s how the pros/cons break down. ## Pros of 18650 Batteries as a Power Source ### Modular Solution This is by far the biggest benefit of using 18650 batteries backpacking.  The entire setup is very flexible. On weekend trips, you probably just need one 18650 cell.  On long thru-hikes or situations where you have high power needs, bring as many cells as you need. ### Weight Power banks have gotten incredibly lightweight.  The [Anker 523](https://amzn.to/3YL3Mkf), for example, has 10,000mAh of power at 8.8oz – which is 1,136mAh per ounce. But it is still hard to beat the weight of a 18650 cell for ultralight backpacking. A [NiteCore 18650 3,500mAh cell](https://amzn.to/4hEmq69) weighs approximately 1.8oz.  You’ll also need a charger plus cable, and that adds approximately 2oz to the setup. **Here’s how the weight breaks down:** - 1 cell + charger (3,500mAh )= 3.8oz = 921mAh per oz - 2 cells + charger (7,000mAh) = 5.6oz = 1250mAh per oz - 3 cells + charger (10,500mAh) = 7.4oz = 1418mAh per oz - 4 cells + charger (14,000mAh) = 9.2oz = 1,521mAh per oz - 5 cells + charger (17,500mAh) = 11oz = 1,590mAh per oz - 6 cells + charger (21,000mAh) =12.8oz = 1,640mAh per oz True, you do have to add in the weight of cables and a carrying case for the 18650 setup.  However, you can use silicone sleeves for the cells (which weigh almost nothing) and you’d have to bring cables for a power bank too. **\*Note** that this definitely isn’t the lightest setup when it comes to mAh per oz.  The [NiteCore NB1000 Ultra Slim (Gen2)](https://amzn.to/4eslFKn) has 10,000mAh and weighs just 5.3oz – which is 1,887mAh per ounce.  But that powerbank doesn’t have the same flexibility as using 18650 cells. ### Cells Are Replaceable All types of batteries – including 18650 cells and power banks – will eventually lose storage capacity over time. However, with 18650 cells, you have the ability to replace them as it happens. You can just bring a new 18650 battery on your trip. This isn’t possible with power banks.  The cells are soldered inside the pack.  Unless you know how to hack the power bank, you won’t be able to easily remove the cells. ### Device Compatibility If you switch your lighting to 18650 cells, you will only have to worry about one type of battery.   Yes, you could use a power bank to charge a USB headlamp – but you lose power when converting between different types of batteries.  In this sense, using 18650 cells as your power bank and lighting battery is the most efficient solution. ## Downsides of Using 18650 Batteries for Backpacking ### Charging Time The biggest downside of using 18650 cells when backpacking is the recharging time.  They generally can only be charged at 0.5 to 1 amp input. By comparison, most good power banks recharge at 2.4 amps.  They also recharge all the cells in the power bank at the same time.  Unless you have a multi-slot charger (which will weigh more), you will have to charge each 18650 cell individually. You generally need 3 to 6 hours to recharge *one* 3,500mAh 18650 cell.  By comparison, the Anker 6,7000 power bank will recharge in 3 hours. This isn’t really a big deal when going on weekend backpacking trips.  But it is big drawback for thru-hikers who will you waste a lot of time sitting next to wall chargers in town.  Keep in mind that it is often difficult to even find an available wall outlet on popular hiking trails. ### Convenience It is a lot easier to just bring a power bank with you when backpacking.  With 18650 cells, you’ll need to keep track of which cells are discharged, charging  times, and so forth.  There can also be a lot more parts with a 18650 setup, such as cables, cases and adapters. ### Cost 18650 cells are pretty pricy.  Expect to pay $10 to $25 per cell depending on the capacity and features (some are high-performance, rated for cold-weather, etc.).  You’ll also need the charger, which is another $10-$30. By comparison, you can get an ultralight power bank for $20 to$60. ### Learning Curve The final drawback of 18650 batteries for backpacking is the learning curve.  It’s confusing as hell for newbies to figure out which type of 18650 cells to use, how to optimize the setup, how to daisy chain your flashlight and devices to charge them all at once…    It might not be worth researching all of this just to save an ounce or two from  your power setup. ## Best 18650 Batteries and Charger/Power Banks 18650 batteries are expensive.  So, it’s no surprise that there are a lot of fake 18650 batteries out there.  These may work but have significantly reduced power capacity (you can tell because they will weigh less than real 18650 cells). Cheap 18650 cells also might not be protected and thus could spontaneously catch on fire (remember those Galaxy phones?). The bottom line?  Don’t waste money on cheap knockoffs.   The same advice also applies to *all* types of batteries and power banks, though. Right now the best 18650 cells are made by [NiteCore](https://shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=1075941&u=2366353&m=74777&urllink=www%2Enitecorestore%2Ecom%2Fbatteries%2Ds%2F1832%2Ehtm&afftrack=) and [Fenix](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=c3e3aefa-6fea-4c2d-bf60-a2323e37f00d&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fenix-store.com%2F). The 3,500mAh cells weigh approximately 1.76oz (50 grams).   Both brands make chargers with input/output, allowing them to work as power banks. ## Lightweight 18650 Chargers with Discharging Function There aren’t too many options when it comes to 18650 chargers that can also discharge. Nitecore used to make the LC10 charger (shown below) that weighed only 1oz. It has been discontinued.  🙁 Right now, these are your best options: - **[Xtar SC1 Plus](https://amzn.to/3KiUq8l):** 1.6oz (the Amazon weight is incorrect!) - [**Fenix EdisonBright are-D1**](https://amzn.to/3UVj0Bl): 2.1oz.  Has a digital display! ![nitecore lc10 charger](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/nitecore-lc10-charger.jpg "nitecore lc10 charger - Mom Goes Camping")This sadly has been discontinued --- ###### Sources: <https://www.fenixlighting.com/blog/the-ultimate-guide-to-the-18650-battery/> <https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/98746/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/8m589n/power_banks_are_heavy_and_i_hate_carrying_them/> <https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/90896/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/816pwk/18650_ul_battery_pack_replacement_modular/> <https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/battery-bank-for-charging-electronics/> ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety **Tags:** power --- ### [What is Camping?](https://momgoescamping.com/what-is-camping/) **Published:** April 1, 2025 **Author:** Diane **Content:** [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Camping-Report-Infographic2-808x1024.jpg "Camping-Report-Infographic2 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Camping-Report-Infographic2.jpg) On a basic level, camping means spending the night in nature, usually in a simple shelter like a tent.  However, there are many different definitions of camping. For one person, it might mean sleeping under the stars in the remote wilderness whereas for others it might mean going to a luxury campground with full amenities. Regardless of your personal definition of camping, it usually involves connecting with nature, escaping the hustle and bustle of daily life, and embracing a simpler way of living. ## What Is Camping – Origins and History Before people lived in cities and suburbs, they were mostly nomadic. In this sense, we humans have been camping for as long as we’ve been human. However, the idea of recreational camping is still fairly new. It can be accredited to a British explorer and traveler in the late 19th century named Thomas Hiram Holding who wrote a book called *Cycle and Camp in Connemara* based on his experiences biking through Ireland. Later, in 1901, he formed the first official camping club. [![cycle and camp in connemara](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/cycle-and-camp-in-connemara.png "cycle and camp in connemara - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/cycle-and-camp-in-connemara.png)Keep in mind that the late 1800s and early 1900s were a time of great urbanization. The Industrial Revolution had caused a transition to factories, and cities were growing at rapid rates. It only makes sense that people became interested in camping during this period. Before, they didn’t need to go camping because they were already in nature. Once in the city, they started needing nature again! The Boy Scouts movement started in 1907, and it made camping even more popular. Now, there are camping groups all over the world, official campsites, downloadable trail maps, all sorts of camping gear, and many resources for people who want to go camping. ![desert camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/desert-camping.jpg "desert camping - Mom Goes Camping") ## What is Camping – Types While camping means something different for everyone, most experiences can be classified into one of these types.  Not sure which is right for you? Read this post about [Backpacking vs. Camping vs. Glamping](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-vs-camping-vs-glamping/) ### Backpacking Backpacking typically involves hiking to your camping destination. There usually no ammenities at the campsite so self-reliance is important.  Because you have to carry everything in your pack, backpacking involves minimal gear. It is truly about getting back to the basics and experiencing nature. ### Car Camping With the convenience of a car nearby, campers can bring more gear and have a more comfortable experience while outdoors. A lot of car camping occurs in official campgrounds which usually have basic ammenities like running water, bathrooms and electric hookups.  However, car camping can also occur in the wilderness, such as at [free camping spots on BLM land](https://momgoescamping.com/find-free-camping/). ### RV Camping With RV camping, you sleep in an RV instead of a tent. Modern RVs often have many ammenities, like bathrooms and running water, so it can be more comfortable than car camping. ### Hammock Camping Hammock camping involves sleeping in a hammock instead of a tent. It is often combined with backpacking. Read about [how to hang a hammock for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/hang-hammock/). ### Glamping Glamping stands for “glamorous camping.” Glampers enjoy the outdoors with added luxuries such as comfortable beds, gourmet meals, and sometimes even spa facilities. Glamping destinations range from safari-style tents to cozy cabins nestled in scenic landscapes. ![family camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/camping-tents.jpg "camping tents - Mom Goes Camping") ## What is Camping – Statistics The number of campers in the USA has been steadily rising over the years. Innovations in camping equipment, such as solar-powered devices and lightweight gear, has made it easier for people to enjoy camping.  Social media has also had a huge impact with influencers sharing images of their camping experiences. In 2020, the COVID pandemic pushed a lot of people to get outdoors and over 10 million people tried camping for the first time – a 5x increase over the previous year. **According to recent statistics:** - 94 million American households identify as campers - 57 million households camped at least once in 2021 - 45% identify as RV campers - 38% identify as tent campers - There were 311 million visits to US National Parks in 2022 --- ###### Resources <https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/camping-hits-new-record-with-57-million-households-flocking-to-the-outdoors-in-2021-301531301.html>, <https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/fresh-data-indicates-camping-interest-to-remain-high-in-2021-301273611.html>, <https://reports.thedyrt.com/2023-camping-report/>, <https://koa.com/north-american-camping-report/>, <https://www.nps.gov/aboutus/visitation-numbers.htm>, <https://www.newstribune.com/news/2022/jan/23/camping-surges-in-popularity-across-us-during/>, ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety --- ### [Kid-Friendly Camping Snacks](https://momgoescamping.com/kid-friendly-camping-snacks/) **Published:** April 2, 2025 **Author:** Diane **Content:** ## Kid-Friendly Camping Snacks Planning a camping trip with kids? Keep snack time fun, easy, and mess-free with this [printable checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/Kids_Camping_Snack_Checklist-2.pdf)! These kid-approved snacks are perfect to prep before you go and will keep little campers full of energy all day long. --- ### ✅ Healthy & Fresh - Apple slices with peanut butter dip - Fruit kabobs - Apple chips - Homemade trail mix - Banana oat cookies - Veggie sticks with hummus pots - Cucumber sandwiches - Frozen grapes - Mini cheese & fruit boxes - Yogurt bark with berries [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/fruit.png "fruit")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/fruit.png) ### 🍞 Bready Goodness - Mini banana muffins - Zucchini slice squares - Homemade muesli bars - Cheese & vegemite scrolls - Pumpkin scones - Mini sausage rolls - Mini pizza scrolls - Breakfast burrito wraps - Pita pockets with salad - French toast sticks ### 🍬 Sweet Treats - No-bake choc coconut balls - Rice bubble slice - Jelly cups with fruit - S’mores cookie bars - Nut-free bliss balls - Peanut butter oat bars - Mini choc chip cookies - Homemade fruit leathers - Choc-dipped strawberries - Lamington fingers [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/muffins-1.png "muffins")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/muffins-1.png) ### 🧀 Savoury Munchies - Cheese cubes & crackers - Mini quiches - Popcorn with seasoning - Corn fritters - Mini meatballs on skewers - Cheesy puff pastry twists - Crumbed chicken bites - Spinach & ricotta triangles - Boiled eggs with salt sachets - Mini savoury muffins ### 🥜 Energy & Protein Boosts - Peanut butter protein balls - DIY nut mix jars - Oat & seed slices - Protein pancake bites - Chickpea crunch - Granola bites - Tuna & rice cakes - Hard boiled egg + cheese combo boxes - Frozen smoothie cubes - Homemade nut-free protein bars --- [📥](https://chat.openai.com/sandbox:/mnt/data/Kids_Camping_Snack_Checklist.pdf)[ Download the Printable Snack Checklist (PDF)](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/Kids_Camping_Snack_Checklist-2.pdf) --- Whether you’re camping in the bush or just enjoying a weekend in the backyard, this checklist helps keep snack time easy and fun. Let your kids tick things off and even help pack — they’ll love being part of the adventure! ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety --- ### [Best Dry Snacks for Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/best-dry-snacks-for-camping/) **Published:** April 2, 2025 **Author:** Diane **Content:** ## Best Dry Snacks for Camping: Easy, Mess-Free Munchies Heading off on a camping trip and wondering what snacks to pack that won’t go soggy or spoil? Dry snacks are the go-to option for hikers, campers, and road-trippers alike. They’re portable, shelf-stable, and most importantly—tasty! Here’s a list of our top dry snack picks for camping. Whether you’re after something salty, sweet, crunchy, or full of protein, we’ve got you sorted. --- ### 🥜 Nuts & Trail Mixes - **Mixed Nuts** – High in protein and healthy fats. Choose unsalted for a healthier option. - **Trail Mix** – Make your own with nuts, dried fruit, and a few chocolate chips or M&Ms for sweetness. - **Roasted Chickpeas** – Crunchy, flavourful, and full of fibre. ### 🍘 Crackers & Crispy Snacks - **Rice Crackers** – Light, crunchy, and great with cheese or dips. - **Saltines or Wheat Thins** – Perfect on their own or topped with peanut butter. - **Corn Chips or Tortilla Chips** – Pack these in a hard container to avoid getting crushed. ### 🍬 Sweet Treats - **Dried Fruit** – Think mango slices, banana chips, or apple rings. - **Granola Bars** – Store-bought or homemade, they’re filling and easy to carry. - **Dehydrated Marshmallows** – Fun for kids and great for DIY trail mixes! ### 🧀 Protein-Packed Bites - **Jerky** – Beef, turkey, or vegan jerky options give a savoury boost of protein. - **Roasted Edamame** – Crunchy and satisfying with lots of plant-based protein. - **Protein Balls** – Nut butter, oats, and a few mix-ins can be prepped and dried at home. ### 🍪 Biscuits & Baked Goods - **Oat Biscuits** – Dense and hearty, they hold up well in backpacks. - **Homemade Banana Bread Slices** – Once dried or toasted, they become great trail snacks. - **Mini Muffins** – Ideal for the first couple of days out camping. --- ### 💡 Dry Snack Packing Tips - **Use reusable containers** – Keep crackers and chips from crumbling in sturdy, sealable tubs. - **Label everything** – Especially if you have multiple snack bags for kids or dietary needs. - **Watch for moisture** – Use ziplock bags with silica packets or paper towels to absorb humidity. Dry snacks are a total lifesaver when you’re out in the bush or hiking all day. They don’t need refrigeration and they’re easy to grab when hunger hits—no prep or mess required! [🧺 ](https://yourwebsite.com/download/dry-camping-snack-list.pdf)[Download Dry Snack List (Printable PDF)](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/Dry_Snacks_for_Camping_Checklist.pdf) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety --- ### [101 Jokes Family Friendly](https://momgoescamping.com/jokes-family-friendly/) **Published:** April 3, 2025 **Author:** Diane **Content:** ## Camping Jokes: The Ultimate Collection of Outdoor Humor for Your Next Adventure There’s something magical about sitting around a crackling campfire,[ surrounded by loved ones](https://momgoescamping.com/the-benefits-of-camping-with-kids/), sharing stories and laughter under the stars. Camping jokes have become an essential part of the outdoor experience, bringing families closer and creating memories that last long after the tents are packed away. Whether you’re an experienced outdoors enthusiast or planning your first camping trip, having a repertoire of camping humor ready to go is just as important as remembering the marshmallows! In this comprehensive guide to camping jokes and outdoor humor, we’ll explore why sharing a laugh in the great outdoors creates such special moments. While we’ve saved our complete collection of **101 hilarious camping jokes** for the [downloadable PDF](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/101_Camping_Jokes_Ebook_v6.pdf) (available free at the end of this post!), we’ll discuss the different types of camping humor that make outdoor adventures more enjoyable for everyone around the campfire. ## **Here are some of our favorites to get you started:** **Why can’t you run through a campsite?** You can only ran — because it’s past tents! **What do you call a bear with no teeth?** A gummy bear. **Why don’t mummies go camping?** They’re afraid to unwind. **What did the ocean say to the beach?** Nothing, it just waved. **Why did the camping trip get canceled?** It was in-tents. **What do you call a fish without eyes?** A fsh. **How do trees access the internet?** They log in. **What do you call bears with no ears?** B. **Why do fish swim in salt water?** Because pepper makes them sneeze. **What’s a scarecrow’s favorite fruit?** Straw-berries. **Why don’t scientists trust atoms?** Because they make up everything. **What do elves learn at school?** The elf-abet. **Why did the golfer bring extra pants?** In case he got a hole in one. **What do you get when you cross a snake and a pie?** A pie-thon. **What’s brown and sticky?** A stick. **Want all 101 jokes? [Download the free PDF here →](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/101_Camping_Jokes_Ebook_v6.pdf)** ## Why Camping Jokes Make Outdoor Adventures Better Camping humor does more than just pass the time while you’re waiting for your hot dogs to cook. Funny camping jokes serve several important purposes: 1. **Breaking the ice** – Nothing connects a group of campers faster than shared laughter 2. **Creating traditions** – Many families pass down their favorite campfire jokes through generations 3. **Distracting from discomforts** – A good joke can help everyone forget about mosquito bites or rainy weather 4. **Building memories** – Kids often remember the silly camping puns and outdoor jokes long after they’ve forgotten other details 5. **Unplugging from technology** – Sharing jokes around the campfire encourages genuine human connection As experienced campers know, the best camping jokes often involve wordplay about tents, wildlife encounters, campfire cooking mishaps, and the unique challenges of outdoor living. The more “relatable” the camping humor, the bigger the laughs! ## Types of Camping Jokes Everyone Will Love ### Camping Puns That Are In-tents! Camping puns are perhaps the most beloved form of camping humor, mainly because they’re so delightfully groan-worthy! These play-on-words specifically related to outdoor activities have become a staple of campfire humor. The “in-tents” pun (intense/in tents) might be the most famous, but there are countless others that make use of camping terminology. In our downloadable collection, you’ll find dozens of camping puns perfect for every outdoor situation, from setting up camp to hiking the trails! **Heading out soon?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup, print them before you go. **[Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** ### Kid-friendly Camping Jokes Family camping trips are perfect opportunities for sharing clean camping jokes that children can understand and retell. The best camping jokes for kids typically feature: - Simple wordplay - Funny animal scenarios - Silly situations campers might encounter - Bathroom humor (let’s be honest—kids love it!) Kid-friendly camping jokes ensure that even the youngest adventurers can participate in the fun, building their confidence as they memorize and share their favorites around the campfire. ### Dad Jokes About Camping Is it really a camping trip without some classic dad jokes? These famously corny quips take on special significance in the camping context, where “dad energy” is already at maximum with all the tent-pitching, fire-starting, and outdoor problem-solving. Dad jokes about camping often involve puns, obvious observations delivered with perfect deadpan timing, and the kind of humor that makes everyone simultaneously laugh and roll their eyes. Our collection includes plenty of these camping dad jokes that fathers everywhere will be proud to add to their repertoire. ### Campfire Jokes and Stories Some camping jokes work especially well when told around the flickering firelight. Campfire humor often: - Builds suspense - Uses the surroundings for effect - Sometimes involves mild “jump scares” - Creates a shared experience among listeners The tradition of telling funny campfire stories and jokes dates back generations and continues to be a highlight of the camping experience for many families. ### Jokes About Camping Fails Let’s face it—camping doesn’t always go as planned! From tents collapsing to encounters with curious wildlife, the mishaps that happen during outdoor adventures often become the funniest camping memories. Our collection includes hilarious camping jokes about the many things that can (and do) go wrong during camping trips. These jokes about camping fails help us laugh at our own outdoor misadventures and realize we’re not alone in our camping catastrophes! ## How to Tell the Perfect Camping Joke Telling camping jokes around the campfire is an art form! Here are some tips to maximize the laughter: 1. **Know your audience** – Choose age-appropriate camping humor for your group 2. **Use timing** – Pause for effect, especially with camping puns 3. **Set the scene** – Some outdoor jokes work best when you paint a vivid picture 4. **Use props** – Point to your tent, the fire, or surrounding nature when relevant 5. **Have a few go-to camping jokes** memorized for different situations The best storytellers build anticipation and deliver punchlines with confidence, making even the silliest camping jokes funnier through their delivery. ## Regional Camping Humor Camping humor varies around the world! In the UK and Australia, camping humour (note the spelling) often revolves around dealing with unpredictable weather and unique local wildlife. American camping jokes frequently focus on bears, s’mores, and outdoor activities like fishing. Our collection includes camping jokes from different regions, ensuring there’s something for everyone regardless of where you pitch your tent! ## Seasonal Camping Jokes Different camping seasons inspire their own brand of humor: - **Summer camping jokes** about heat, swimming, and insects - **Winter camping jokes** focusing on cold, snow, and staying warm - **Spring camping jokes** about mud, rain, and unpredictable conditions - **Fall camping jokes** celebrating colorful leaves, cooler temperatures, and campfire cooking Each season brings its own challenges and joys to the camping experience, all ripe for humorous observation! ## Why We Created This Collection of Camping Jokes As passionate outdoor enthusiasts ourselves, we’ve experienced firsthand how funny camping jokes can transform an ordinary camping trip into an unforgettable adventure. We’ve compiled this comprehensive collection of 101 camping jokes to help: - Families create lasting memories - Friends bond over shared outdoor experiences - Solo campers entertain new camping buddies - Outdoor educators engage with groups Our carefully curated collection includes only clean camping jokes suitable for all ages, organized by category for easy reference around the campfire. ## Download Your Free Collection of 101 Camping Jokes! While we’ve discussed the different types of camping humor in this post, we’ve saved all 101 of our funniest camping jokes, puns, and outdoor humor for our free [downloadable PDF!](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/101_Camping_Jokes_Ebook_v6.pdf) This comprehensive collection includes: - Kid-friendly camping jokes - Hilarious camping puns - Classic dad jokes about camping - Funny campfire stories - Jokes about camping fails - Nature jokes and wildlife humor Simply click the button above to instantly receive your copy of our complete collection of camping jokes that’ll crack up everyone around the campfire! ## Conclusion: Share Your Favorite Camping Jokes! Camping jokes bring people together through shared laughter and create some of the most memorable moments of outdoor adventures. We hope our collection adds extra fun to your next camping trip! Do you have favorite funny camping jokes not included in our collection? Share them in the comments below! We’d love to hear the camping humor that has brightened your outdoor experiences. And don’t forget to pin this post to your camping or outdoor humor boards on Pinterest for easy reference before your next adventure! *Happy camping and happy laughing!* ## FAQ About Camping Jokes **Q: What makes a good camping joke?** A: The best camping jokes are relatable to outdoor experiences, appropriate for your audience, and delivered with good timing. Camping puns, observations about outdoor living, and gentle humor about camping challenges tend to get the biggest laughs. **Q: Are there camping jokes appropriate for young children?** A: Absolutely! Our collection includes plenty of kid-friendly camping jokes that avoid inappropriate content while still being genuinely funny. Look for jokes about animals, simple wordplay, and silly situations that children can understand and retell. **Q: How can I remember camping jokes to tell around the campfire?** A: Download our PDF and review it before your trip, or keep it on your phone for quick reference. Start by memorizing 5-10 of your favorites, focusing on short camping puns and jokes that match your sense of humor. **Q: Why do people tell jokes while camping?** A: Sharing camping humor creates bonds, passes time during quiet moments, distracts from outdoor discomforts, and creates lasting memories. It’s also part of the camping tradition that helps people unplug from technology and connect with each other. **Q: What’s the most famous camping joke?** A: While there are many contenders, the classic “Why don’t tents tell jokes? Because they’re too in-tents!” remains one of the most widely shared camping puns of all time. ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety --- ### [Camping Checklists](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-checklists/) **Published:** April 28, 2025 **Author:** Diane **Content:** ## Why You Should Always Use a Camping Checklist (Trust Me on This) There’s something magical about camping, fresh air, [crackling campfires](https://momgoescamping.com/make-smores-without-sticks/), and the feeling of being totally prepared (or not!) for whatever nature throws at you. Well… unless you forget half your gear because you didn’t use a checklist. Another side benefit, if you are anything like me, you will have a better sleep on the eve of your trip. I usually have a disturbed sleep, waking up multiple times and making mental notes not to forget a particular item. Have faith in your checklist. Refine it each time you go. You will soon be a camping (and packing) super mom. **True story:** A few years ago, we packed up the whole family for a weekend camping trip. I was feeling pretty smug about how fast we got ready. We hit the road, singing songs and munching snacks. Life was good, until we got to the campsite and realized something important: we had packed the tent poles, but not the tent. Yep. We had a beautiful bag full of poles, pegs, and absolutely no tent. Luckily I had a [few tricks](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets) up my sleeve. We spent the night awkwardly draped under a tarp like a family of raccoons. It was not my finest moment. **Moral of the story?** Use a checklist. Always. Here’s why checklists are camping lifesavers: - **You won’t forget the essentials.** (Like, say, the actual tent.) - **You save time packing.** No more running back and forth wondering if you packed the matches. - **You feel more relaxed.** When you’re confident you have everything, you can actually enjoy the adventure. - **You avoid those [“uh-oh”](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-dangers/) moments.** Trust me, sleeping under a tarp sounds a lot more fun than it actually is. - **It helps the whole family pitch in.** Give everyone a section of the list to check off, it’s teamwork made easy. - **You will sleep better the night before!** **Bottom line:** If you want your camping trip to be full of memories and not full of mishaps, do yourself a favour: make a checklist (or use one of mine!). 👉 Check out all my free printable camping checklists to make your next trip smooth, fun, and stress-free! ## Camping Checklist Hub ### All Your Camping Essentials in One Place! #### ✅ Camping Checklists Want the most complete, in-depth checklist first? Start here: **[The Ultimate Family Camping Checklist](https://momgoescamping.comhttps://momgoescamping.com/camping-checklist-family/)**, it covers every category, packing quantities, and gear by age group in one guide. Or grab one of these printable PDFs for your specific type of trip: - [Baby Camping Checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/baby_camping_checklist_F.pdf) - [Backpacking Checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/backpacking_checklist_F.pdf) - [Camping Checklist – Family](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/camping_checklist_family_F.pdf) - [Camping with Pets Checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/camping_with_pets_checklist.pdf) - [Canoe Camping Checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/canoe_camping_checklist.pdf) - [Car Camping Checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/car_camping_checklist.pdf) - [First Aid Kit – Family](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/first_aid_kit_family_F.pdf) - [Glamping Essentials Checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/glamping_essentials_checklist.pdf) - [Lightweight Backpacking First Aid Checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/lightweight_backpacking_first_aid_checklist_F.pdf) - [Ultralight Camping Checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/ultralight_camping_checklist_F.pdf) - [Winter Camping Checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/winter_camping_checklist.pdf) #### ✨ Bonus Tips for Easier Camping - Pack lighter than you think you need. - Always double-check your first aid supplies. - Bring extra snacks, especially if camping with kids or pets! #### 📬 Stay Updated! ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety --- ### [How Much GORP to Bring Backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/how-much-gorp-to-bring/) **Published:** August 19, 2025 **Author:** Diane **Content:** ## How Much GORP to Bring Backpacking? After countless backpacking trips with my daughter over the past 10 years – from beginner-friendly day hikes to multi-day wilderness adventures – I’ve learned that getting your GORP portions right can make or break your trail experience. Too little, and you’ll be dreaming of gas station snacks by day two. Too much, and you’ll be hauling unnecessary weight up every switchback. For newcomers to the backpacking world, GORP stands for “Good Old Raisins and Peanuts,” though modern trail mix has evolved far beyond this simple combination. What makes GORP exceptional for backpacking isn’t just convenience – it’s the incredible calorie-to-weight ratio that keeps you fueled without weighing down your pack. ## Why There’s No One-Size-Fits-All Answer I get asked “How much GORP should I bring?” more than any other food question, and here’s the honest truth: anyone giving you a simple answer probably hasn’t done enough backpacking to know better. Through years of trial and error (including some hangry moments on the trail), I’ve learned that your GORP needs depend on several critical factors: - **Your body size and metabolism** – A 6’2″ male hiker burns vastly different calories than my 5’4″ frame - **Trail difficulty and duration** – Scrambling up rocky terrain demands more fuel than gentle forest paths - **Weather conditions** – Cold weather hiking can increase caloric needs by 10-15% - **Your meal plan** – Are you relying on GORP for lunch or just snacking? - **Personal appetite patterns** – Some hikers graze all day; others prefer substantial meals ## My 4-Step System for Calculating GORP Needs After years of perfecting our trail nutrition, here’s the method I use to nail our GORP portions every time: ### Step 1: Calculate Your Daily Calorie Requirements Base calorie needs vary dramatically among hikers. From my experience: - **Light hiking (2-3 mph, minimal elevation):** 1,800-2,400 calories/day - **Moderate hiking (3-4 mph, some elevation):** 2,400-3,200 calories/day - **Strenuous hiking (challenging terrain, high elevation):** 3,200-4,500 calories/day For reference, I typically need about 2,200 calories daily on moderate trails, while my hiking partner (a 180-lb man) requires closer to 3,000 calories for the same terrain. ### Step 2: Account for Your Other Meals Most backpackers follow a pattern of hot breakfast, trail lunch (often GORP-heavy), and hot dinner. Here’s how I typically break down calories: - **Breakfast (oatmeal, coffee, etc.):** 400-600 calories - **Dinner (dehydrated meal + sides):** 600-900 calories - **GORP and snacks:** The remainder of your daily needs When hiking with my daughter, I often prepare a simple hot lunch too (like instant hummus with crackers), which reduces our GORP dependency. ### Step 3: Calculate Your GORP Calorie Target Simple math: Total daily calories minus breakfast and dinner calories equals your GORP/snack calories. For example: If I need 2,200 calories total and get 1,000 calories from breakfast and dinner, I need 1,200 calories from GORP and snacks throughout the day. ### Step 4: Convert Calories to Weight Here’s where the rubber meets the trail. Standard GORP averages about 140 calories per ounce (this can vary significantly based on ingredients). Using this baseline: - **1 ounce of GORP ≈ 140 calories** - **1 cup of GORP ≈ 4.5 ounces ≈ 630 calories** **Quick Reference Guide:** - **Snacking only:** 0.5-1 cup GORP per day - **GORP as lunch substitute:** 1.5-2.5 cups GORP per day - **Heavy GORP reliance:** 2.5+ cups GORP per day [![This is What Backpacking Food for 7 Days Looks Like GORP](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/This-is-What-Backpacking-Food-for-7-Days-Looks-Like-e1464601218161.jpg "This is What Backpacking Food for 7 Days Looks Like - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/This-is-What-Backpacking-Food-for-7-Days-Looks-Like-e1464601218161.jpg)Heres what we ate during the 7 days camping See what each item is here                                                     **Want gourmet meals on the trail?** My dehydrator recipes ebook has 50+ calorie-dense backpacking recipes — just add hot water. **[                                                                 Get it here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck)** ## My Field-Tested GORP Recipes After experimenting with dozens of combinations, these five recipes have become our go-to mixes. Each serves different needs and taste preferences: ### 1. Classic Trail Warrior *Perfect for: First-time backpackers and traditionalists* **Ingredients:** - 1 cup roasted peanuts - 1 cup raisins - ½ cup M&Ms or dark chocolate chips - ½ cup sunflower seeds **Why it works:** This combination hits all the right notes – protein from peanuts, quick energy from raisins, mood-boosting chocolate, and healthy fats from seeds. It’s also widely available and budget-friendly. **Calories per cup:** ~620 calories \| **Weight per cup:** ~4.3 oz ### 2. Tropical Energy Boost *Perfect for: Hot weather hiking and morale-boosting* **Ingredients:** - 1 cup cashews - 1 cup dried pineapple chunks - ½ cup toasted coconut flakes - ½ cup banana chips - ½ cup white chocolate chips **Why it works:** The natural fruit sugars provide sustained energy, while coconut adds electrolytes. This mix also stays appetizing in hot weather when heavier combinations might feel too rich. **Calories per cup:** ~680 calories \| **Weight per cup:** ~4.1 oz ### 3. Protein Powerhouse *Perfect for: Long-distance hikers and muscle recovery* **Ingredients:** - 1 cup almonds - 1 cup pumpkin seeds - ½ cup dried cherries - ½ cup dark chocolate chunks - ½ cup roasted chickpeas **Why it works:** With over 20g of protein per cup, this mix helps with muscle recovery during multi-day trips. The antioxidants in cherries and dark chocolate also support recovery. **Calories per cup:** ~710 calories \| **Weight per cup:** ~4.6 oz ### 4. Sweet & Salty Adventure *Perfect for: Craving satisfaction and sodium replacement* **Ingredients:** - 1 cup mini pretzels - 1 cup salted peanuts - ½ cup dried cranberries - ½ cup caramel or butterscotch chips - ½ cup air-popped popcorn **Why it works:** The salt content helps replace electrolytes lost through sweating, while the sweet elements satisfy cravings that can derail trail discipline. **Calories per cup:** ~580 calories \| **Weight per cup:** ~3.8 oz ### 5. Kid-Approved Trail Magic *Perfect for: Family hiking and picky eaters* **Ingredients:** - 1 cup honey-roasted peanuts - 1 cup mini marshmallows - ½ cup Teddy Grahams or animal crackers - ½ cup mini chocolate chips - ½ cup freeze-dried strawberries **Why it works:** This combination appeals to young hikers while still providing essential nutrients. The familiar flavors encourage consistent eating, which is crucial for maintaining energy in kids. **Calories per cup:** ~650 calories \| **Weight per cup:** ~4.2 oz ## Pro Tips from Years of Trial and Error **Storage and Freshness:** - Pre-portion GORP into daily servings using small zip-lock bags - Add silica gel packets for humid conditions - Store chocolate components separately in hot weather and combine on the trail **Customization Strategies:** - Include 10-20% more than calculated – it’s better to have leftovers than run short - Vary textures to prevent “GORP fatigue” on longer trips - Consider dietary restrictions of all group members when planning **Budget-Friendly Sourcing:** - Buy ingredients in bulk from warehouse stores - Choose seasonal dried fruits for better prices - Mix expensive ingredients (like nuts) with cheaper fillers (like cereal) ## Common GORP Mistakes I’ve Learned to Avoid Over the years, I’ve made plenty of trail mix mistakes. Here are the big ones to avoid: - **The Chocolate Meltdown:** Learned this one the hard way on a 90°F desert hike. Now I use yogurt-covered options or keep chocolate separate. - **The Monotony Trap:** Eating the same GORP mix for 5 days straight will kill your appetite. Variety is crucial. - **The Salt Shortage:** On my first multi-day trip, I didn’t include enough salty components and paid for it with fatigue and cramping. - **The Overpacking Error:** It’s tempting to bring too much, but every ounce counts when you’re climbing mountains. ## Special Considerations for Different Trip Types **Day Hikes:** 1-2 cups total, focus on taste and satisfaction over weight savings **Weekend Trips:** Plan for appetite changes – you may eat less on day one but more on day two as your body adapts **Week+ Adventures:** Include variety packs and consider resupply options. Your taste preferences will change over longer trips **Winter Hiking:** Increase portions by 15-20% and choose ingredients that won’t freeze solid (avoid most dried fruits) ## GORP FAQ: #### What does GORP stand for? “Good Old Raisins and Peanuts” the original two-ingredient trail mix. These days GORP means any trail mix, but the principle is the same: calorie-dense, no-cook fuel that survives being crushed at the bottom of a pack. #### How much trail mix should I bring per day of backpacking? As a starting point: about half a cup to one cup per day if you’re just snacking between real meals, and 1.5 to 2.5 cups per day if GORP is standing in for lunch. Adjust for your body size, the terrain, and cold weather, which raises calorie needs. #### How many calories are in a cup of GORP? Roughly 600 to 700 calories per cup for a typical mix, or about 140 calories per ounce. Heavier on nuts and chocolate pushes that number up; pretzels and popcorn pull it down. #### Can I live on GORP for a whole backpacking trip? You could, but you shouldn’t. After a couple days of the same mix, “GORP fatigue” is real and you’ll stop eating enough. Use trail mix for snacks and lunches, and get variety from hot breakfasts and dinners. #### How long does homemade trail mix last? A few weeks at room temperature in sealed bags, and easily the length of any backpacking trip. Heat is the main enemy, chocolate melts and nuts go stale faster, so keep it out of direct sun and consider skipping real chocolate in summer. ## Final Thoughts: Finding Your GORP Sweet Spot The perfect GORP formula for your backpacking adventures will be uniquely yours. Start with the calculations I’ve provided, then adjust based on how you feel on the trail. Keep notes about what worked and what didn’t – I still reference my trail journal from years ago when planning new trips. Remember, GORP should enhance your hiking experience, not become a chore to choke down. If you find yourself avoiding your trail mix, it’s time to reassess the ingredients or portions. Most importantly, don’t let GORP planning stress overwhelm the joy of getting outdoors. Whether you nail the perfect mix or end up eating plain peanuts from a gas station, the memories you create on the trail matter more than the snacks you bring along. *Have you tried any of these GORP recipes or developed your own winning combination? I’d love to hear about your trail mix successes (and disasters) in the comments below!* --- **About the Author:** Mom Goes Camping has been exploring wilderness areas with her family for over 10 years, logging hundreds of trail miles across diverse terrains and weather conditions. Her practical approach to backcountry nutrition comes from real-world experience managing food for both adult and child hikers on trips ranging from day hikes to week-long adventures. ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Food, Camping Safety --- ### [Things You Should Never Bring Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/things-never-bring-camping-backpacking/) **Published:** September 23, 2025 **Author:** Diane **Content:** After over a decade of family camping adventures across national parks and backcountry trails, I’ve witnessed countless camping disasters that could have been easily avoided. From electronics disrupting wildlife to dangerous fire accelerants causing evacuation scares, these experiences taught me valuable lessons about what *not* to pack. While there are plenty of [lists of what to bring when you go camping](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-checklist-family/), knowing what to leave behind is equally important for safety, environmental protection, and ensuring everyone enjoys their outdoor experience. Here’s my hard-earned wisdom on the items that have no place in your camping gear. ## Electronics (Beyond Emergency Communication) I get it – that phone provides peace of mind for emergencies, and I always carry mine on family trips. But I’ve watched too many families miss magical moments because someone was glued to a screen instead of watching their first shooting star or hearing an owl call for the first time. The real issue isn’t just missing out on nature’s wonders. During a recent camping trip at Yellowstone, a family’s loud movie night disrupted the entire campground’s evening wildlife viewing. Rangers actually had to intervene because the noise was affecting animal behavior patterns. **Why electronics don’t belong at camp:** - They defeat the purpose of digital detox that benefits mental health - Screens and sounds disrupt wildlife and other campers’ experiences - Battery drainage can compromise your actual emergency communication - Blue light disrupts natural sleep patterns crucial for outdoor recovery **If you absolutely must bring electronics:** - Use headphones exclusively – never speakers - Keep devices in your tent or RV, away from shared spaces - Set specific “device times” rather than constant use - Consider airplane mode to preserve battery for true emergencies Also read: [Camping Neighbors from Hell: These Are the Worst Things Campers Do](https://momgoescamping.com/bad-camping-etiquette/) ## Axes, Saws, and Tree-Cutting Tools This might surprise new campers, but that shiny hatchet you’re eyeing at the outdoor store? Leave it at home. I learned this lesson the hard way during an early backpacking trip when a ranger educated me about Leave No Trace principles after finding my “practice” shelter. **The reality about campfire wood:** Dead wood scattered on the ground provides the best kindling and burns cleanly. Living wood from cut trees contains moisture that creates excessive smoke and burns poorly. I’ve seen campers struggle for hours with smoky fires from fresh-cut wood when perfect dry tinder was literally lying at their feet. **Environmental impact considerations:** - Popular camping areas already face pressure from overuse - Fragile ecosystems (like alpine environments) depend on every piece of organic matter - Your “practice” bushcraft shelter becomes litter for the next visitor - Cutting tools encourage destructive behavior in inexperienced campers **When axes are appropriate:** At established campgrounds where you’ve purchased firewood, a small hatchet helps split larger pieces into kindling. Always check campground rules first. Read more about [how to use a camping hatchet responsibly](https://momgoescamping.com/best-camping-hatchets/). ## Excessive Toys and Entertainment Items ![kids playing with sticks while camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/kids-playing-while-camping-861x1024.jpg) One of my favorite camping memories is watching my daughter spend three hours building fairy houses from pinecones, leaves, and sticks – zero manufactured toys involved. That same trip, I watched another family struggle with bored kids surrounded by electronic games and action figures, completely missing the natural playground around them. **Why minimal toys work better outdoors:** - Nature provides unlimited, ever-changing entertainment - Kids develop creativity and problem-solving skills - Fewer items mean less stress about lost or damaged belongings - Children engage more fully with their environment **Smart toy choices for camping:** - One small comfort item (stuffed animal) for security - Notebook and pencils for nature journaling - Deck of cards for rainy weather - Nature interaction tools: magnifying glass, collection containers, field guides Check out these [best camping toys for kids](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-toys/) and [how to entertain kids while camping](https://momgoescamping.com/activities-entertain-kids-camping/) for more ideas. ## Scented Personal Care Products Here’s something most camping guides don’t mention: “camping smell” is completely different from “city smell.” When you’re active outdoors with clean air and natural materials, you don’t develop that stuffy, stale odor that comes from indoor environments and pollution exposure. **The real danger of fragrances outdoors:** During a backpacking trip in bear country, our guide pointed out how a camper’s floral perfume had attracted every bee in the area. More seriously, scented products can draw larger wildlife attention – something you definitely want to avoid. **Wildlife and insect concerns:** - Sweet scents attract bees, wasps, and mosquitoes - Strong fragrances can signal “food source” to bears and other wildlife - Artificial scents mask natural human scent that wildlife recognizes and typically avoids - Some scents trigger aggressive behavior in certain insects ## Multiple Toiletry Products My entire camping toiletry kit fits in a small mesh bag: biodegradable soap, toothbrush, toothpaste, and toilet paper. That’s it. This minimalist approach evolved from years of overpacking and dealing with leaky bottles, forgotten items, and the environmental guilt of watching soapy water run toward pristine streams. **One quality soap does it all:** A single biodegradable soap serves as body wash, shampoo, dish soap, and laundry detergent. Dr. Bronner’s has been my go-to for over eight years of camping adventures. **Environmental responsibility:** Even biodegradable soap requires proper disposal. [According to Leave No Trace](https://lnt.org/the-skinny-on-soap/), all soapy water must be disposed of 200 feet from water sources. I use a collapsible wash basin and scatter used water through soil and vegetation for natural filtering. ## Glass and Ceramic Items I’ll never forget the family vacation when my brother’s beer bottle fell from the picnic table and shattered across our campsite. Despite spending an hour with flashlights picking up every visible piece, we still found glass shards weeks later embedded in our tent floor. **Hidden dangers of breakables:** - Microscopic shards embed in tent floors and sleeping pads - Barefoot campers (especially children) face serious injury risks - Wildlife can step on fragments and suffer paw injuries - Glass reflects sunlight and can create fire hazards in dry conditions **Better alternatives:** Stainless steel, aluminum, and BPA-free plastic containers handle camping conditions better and pose zero breakage risk. For beer lovers, cans pack lighter and create no safety hazards. ## Mirrors and Vanity Items One of camping’s greatest gifts is freedom from appearance anxiety. That messy hair and dirt-streaked face? They’re badges of outdoor adventure! Some of my family’s favorite photos capture these authentic moments – the genuine smiles and carefree expressions that only come when we stop worrying about looking perfect. **Beyond the breakage risk:** Mirrors create unnecessary weight, breakage hazards, and maintain unhealthy appearance fixation that camping naturally helps release. Trust me, you’ll appreciate the mental break from constant self-monitoring. ## Fire Accelerants and Chemical Starters Nothing beats the satisfaction of starting a campfire with just matches and natural materials. I’ve taught this skill to dozens of families, and the pride on kids’ faces when their fire catches is priceless. Chemical accelerants rob you of this authentic outdoor experience while creating serious safety risks. **Safety concerns with accelerants:** - Unpredictable flame behavior can cause severe burns - Chemical vapors pose inhalation risks, especially for children - Increased wildfire risk due to rapid, uncontrolled burning - Environmental contamination from chemical residues **Natural fire-starting success:** Learn proper [fire lay techniques](https://momgoescamping.com/fire-lays/) and [how to build fires in challenging conditions](https://momgoescamping.com/make-fire-rain/). These skills serve you better than any chemical shortcut. ## Items You Can’t Pack Out The “pack it in, pack it out” principle goes beyond basic courtesy – it’s about preserving wilderness for future generations. I’ve restructured my entire meal planning around this concept, and it’s actually made camping food preparation simpler and more enjoyable. **My repackaging system:** Everything goes into reusable containers or bags before leaving home. Granola bars get removed from wrappers, soup mixes transfer to lightweight containers, and snacks get portioned into silicone bags. This prevents accidental littering and eliminates sharp, dirty cans at cleanup time. **Waste considerations for different camping styles:** - **Car camping:** Established campgrounds provide trash services, but minimizing packaging still reduces bear attractants - **Backpacking:** Every ounce matters, including trash weight on the return journey - **Dispersed camping:** No services available – everything must be carried out **Special note on toilet paper:** While biodegradable toilet paper can be buried in cathole latrines, wet wipes require packing out due to slow decomposition rates. Consider this when choosing personal hygiene supplies. ## The Bottom Line: Camping is About Simplification After years of family camping adventures, the pattern is clear: our best trips involved the least stuff. When we focus on essentials and embrace simplicity, we’re free to notice the things that truly matter – the sound of wind through pine trees, the excitement in a child’s voice discovering their first salamander, the satisfaction of a meal cooked over a fire you built yourself. These guidelines aren’t about depriving yourself of comfort. They’re about removing barriers to the authentic outdoor experience that rejuvenates mind, body, and family relationships. Every item you leave behind creates space for something more valuable – a deeper connection with nature and each other. What would you add to this list based on your camping experiences? Share your “never again” items in the comments below! --- **About the Author:** Diane has been family camping for over 15 years, from car camping with toddlers to backpacking with teenagers. Her experiences range from desert dispersed camping to alpine wilderness adventures, with a focus on sustainable outdoor practices and family-friendly outdoor education. **Image credits:** [“Feliz dia del trabajador”](https://www.flickr.com/photos/mariano-mantel/17137681940/) ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Miradortigre](https://www.flickr.com/people/mariano-mantel/) [“Cool but unnecessary camp luxury”](https://www.flickr.com/photos/beigephotos/205394255/) ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [Beige Alert](https://www.flickr.com/people/beigephotos/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety **Tags:** camping list --- ### [How to Make a Fire in the Woods](https://momgoescamping.com/make-fire-woods/) **Published:** October 7, 2025 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Making a campfire (or what I like to call caveman television) is by far one of the most [fun parts of camping.](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-cook-over-a-campfire/) It’s also a really important survival skill to know in case you ever need to signal for help, [dry wet clothing](https://momgoescamping.com/hypothermia-treatment-wilderness/) or purify water. Here’s what you need to know to make a campfire in the woods, even if it is windy or wet conditions. I’ve been camping with my kids for years, and these are the techniques that have worked for me time and time again—even when conditions aren’t ideal. ## 1. Start with Your Fire Pit or Circle No matter what, you ALWAYS must contain your fire. This usually means digging a fire pit or making a circle with rocks. Seriously, do not skip this step. No matter how immune to forest fires you think you are, it is best to play it safe. Plus, that pit or rock circle will be a good resting point for your poker sticks. **Why this matters:** Forest fires can start from a single stray ember. Even on a calm day, a gust of wind can carry sparks into dry brush. I’ve seen firsthand how quickly things can go wrong when campers skip this basic safety step. **How to create a proper fire ring:** - Clear a 10-foot diameter area around your fire site, removing all leaves, twigs, and dry grass - If there’s an existing fire ring at your campsite, use it—this minimizes environmental impact - If you need to create one, dig down about 6-12 inches and circle it with rocks - Make sure there are no low-hanging branches overhead ![See all of that dry brush? That's why you need a fire ring or pit!](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/P1090075.jpg) ## 2. Understand Tinder vs. Kindling vs. Fuel Wood Once I went camping with a complete newbie and took it for granted that some people don’t know how to make a fire. Here’s what happened: The fire I’d built had died down. We were in the tent getting ready to sleep. Well, it turns out that my super-macho friend was scared out of his mind of bears (nevermind that there weren’t any bears where we were camping!). He was getting on my nerves, so I [reassured him](https://momgoescamping.com/bear-safety/) by saying, “Don’t worry. Even if there were any wild animals out there, they would have been scared off by the fire.” Two minutes later, he gets out of the tent to refuel the fire! Except that the fire had died down to embers and he put giant logs on top of them. Well, you can’t light a giant log with embers. Within a few minutes, there was smoke all over the place and making me gag. I had to go out and (trying not to laugh at him 😉 ) explain that first you put on little sticks, then you put on bigger sticks, and only then you put on the big logs. So, to break it down technically, here’s the type of wood you need: **Tinder:** This is very dry, very small pieces of wood or fluffy items like dry moss or bark. Tinder is what you use to start your fire. Some people bring their own tinder when camping. Think of materials that would catch fire from a single match—that’s tinder. Good examples include: - Dryer lint (I save this in a ziplock bag before trips) - Dry pine needles - Birch bark (only collect what’s already fallen) - Cotton balls rubbed with petroleum jelly - Small wood shavings **Kindling:** These are small sticks and twigs, usually the thickness of a pencil up to your thumb. Once you’ve got your tinder burning, you use the tinder to light the kindling. This is the bridge between your initial flame and the larger wood that will sustain your fire. **Fuelwood:** Contrary to what you might think, you don’t need big giant logs for your fire. Sticks and branches about the circumference of your arm are ideal for most campfires. Once your kindling is burning, you put the fuelwood on. These pieces will burn longer and provide sustained heat for cooking or warmth. ![This is ALL Kindling!](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/1511092120_a761b3e6ee_z.jpg) ## 3. Gathering Firewood the Right Way As I talk about in my post about things to never bring camping, DO NOT USE AN AX TO CUT FIREWOOD! Aside from destroying nature, cutting trees for firewood is a bad idea because the wood is still alive. You want dead, dry wood for your fire! It really shouldn’t be that hard to find branches that have fallen. If you are at a popular campground which has already been picked clean, then you might need to walk a bit further to find firewood. **The golden rule:** Make sure you GET A LOT OF KINDLING. In fact, get 3x more kindling than you think you will need. You’d be surprised how quickly a campfire burns up all that wood, and you don’t want to go gathering more wood after dark. That’s a good way to sprain your ankle! **What to look for:** - Wood that snaps cleanly when broken (dry wood) - Branches that are already on the ground—never cut from standing trees, even dead ones - Wood that’s light in color inside (not dark and rotted) - Different sizes from pencil-thin to arm-thick **What to avoid:** - Green wood (living wood won’t burn well and creates excessive smoke) - Wood that’s touching the ground and soaking wet - Poison ivy or poison oak vines (they can cause respiratory irritation when burned) - Treated wood or wood with paint **Pro tip from experience:** Before you even start building your fire, gather all your wood and sort it into three piles: tinder, kindling, and fuel. This way you’re not scrambling to find the right size stick while your fire is dying out. ![This stack of firewood lasted us a few hours.](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/IMG_1915-1024x682.jpg) ## 4. Breaking Wood Safely You just found a great piece of firewood but it is 15 feet long? Never try to break branches with your arms. You’ll end up with a lot of scratches. Instead, try these methods that I’ve refined over years of camping trips: **The Under-Foot Break:** Get your boots on. Leave the branch on the ground and put your foot at the point where you want to break it. Then pull the branch upwards with your hands. This method works great for branches up to about 2 inches thick. **The Over-Knee Break:** Bend one knee up in the air. Hold the branch over your knee and pull both sides towards you. It should break over your knee. I use this for thinner kindling pieces. Be careful not to use this method on anything too thick—save your knees! **Use the Fire:** If a branch is too big to break, then you can just lay it over the fire. The fire will eventually burn away the middle of the branch so it breaks. Then you can just push the branch further into the fire. This is actually a traditional method called a “star fire,” and it’s great for conserving wood. **Safety note:** Always wear closed-toe shoes when breaking wood. I learned this the hard way after dropping a heavy branch on my foot while wearing sandals—not fun! ## 5. Choose the Right Fire Lay for Your Conditions There are five main ways to lay a fire. Most people know the teepee lay, but there are some lays which are better for other conditions. For example, when making a fire in the rain, I use the A-frame or lean-to fire lay. The fire lay you choose can make the difference between a roaring campfire and a frustrating evening of smoke and disappointment. Here’s what works in different situations: **Teepee lay:** Best for quick fires and when you need immediate heat. It’s easy to build and lights readily, but burns through wood quickly. **Log cabin lay:** Creates a longer-lasting fire with a flat top—perfect for cooking. This is my go-to when we’re planning to roast hot dogs or make campfire meals. **Lean-to or A-frame lay:** Excellent for windy or rainy conditions because the structure protects the flame. I’ve used this method to keep fires going in some pretty miserable weather! **Star fire:** Great for conserving wood. You feed the logs into the center as the ends burn. **Want detailed instructions?** Read about the 6 main fire lays in my comprehensive guide. Each method has its place, and knowing when to use which one comes from experience—but I’ll share what I’ve learned so you can skip the trial and error. ## Final Tips from My Years of Camping **Always check fire restrictions:** Before you even pack for your trip, check if campfires are allowed in the area you’re visiting. Dry seasons often bring fire bans, even in established campgrounds. **Have water nearby:** Keep a bucket of water or your water bottle within reach. You’ll need it to fully extinguish the fire when you’re done. **Never leave your fire unattended:** Even for a quick bathroom break, someone should stay with the fire. Sparks can fly and conditions can change quickly. **Put it out completely:** Drown your fire with water, stir the ashes, add more water, and repeat until you can safely touch the ash. It should be cool to the touch before you leave your campsite or go to sleep. Building a campfire is one of those camping skills that gets better with practice. My first few attempts were pretty pathetic, but now I can get a fire going in rain, wind, or just about any condition. The key is understanding the principles—proper preparation, the right wood sequence, and choosing the correct fire lay for your situation. Have questions about making a fire in specific conditions? Drop them in the comments below—I love helping fellow campers solve their outdoor challenges! --- *Image credit: “[Kindling, pseudo kindling, not quite tin](https://www.flickr.com/photos/sixthstation/1511092120/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [V’ron](https://www.flickr.com/people/sixthstation/)* ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety **Tags:** campfire, fire --- ### [How to Remove a Tick Once It’s Bitten You](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-remove-tick/) **Published:** November 26, 2025 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I’ve had a lot of ticks bite me over the years.  You’d think I’d be used to it by now, but it still grosses me out to find a tick embedded in my skin.  However, I have gotten better at removing ticks over the years.The way you remove the tick actually matters.  Irritating a tick during removal increase your chances of getting Lyme disease.  The wrong method might also cause the tick head getting stuck in your skin, which is an entire different level of grossness. Here’s what you need to know to remove a tick properly, plus some tips to make it easier. --- ![how to remove a tick instructions](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/how-to-remove-a-tick-1.jpg "how to remove a tick - Mom Goes Camping") --- How to Remove a Tick Safely ### **1. Use pointy tweezers or a V-shaped tool** You should always use pointy tweezers or a V-tool when removing a tick. Do not remove a tick with your fingers. You could squeeze the tick, causing the tick’s stomach contents to regurgitate into your body, thus increasing the chances of disease transmission.  It’s better to wait a bit to get a proper tool than immediately tear the tick out with your fingers. Note: It is very gross to find a tick attached to you, but resist the urge to immediately pull it off with your fingers.  It’s often smarter to leave the tick attached until you can get a properly tool to remove the tick with your fingers. **Also read:** - **[Best tick removal tools for humans](https://momgoescamping.com/tick-removal-tools-humans/)** - **[How to remove a tick without tweezers or a removal tool](https://momgoescamping.com/remove-tick-without-tweezers/)** ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/tiny-ticks.jpg "tiny ticks - Mom Goes Camping")Larval and nymph ticks are so small that youll need finely pointed tweezers ### 2. Grab the Tick As Close to Its Mouth As Possible. You want to grab the tick as low down as possible. This prevents you from squeezing the tick and causing it to regurgitate. It also makes it less likely for the tick’s head to snap off and get stuck in your skin.  If that happens, don’t panic. Here’s [what to do if a tick head is stuck in your skin](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-remove-a-tick-head-stuck-in-your-skin/). **Pro Tip:** Gently pull the skin on each side of the tick apart. This makes it easier to grasp the tick close to its mouth. ### 3. Pull Straight Upwards Using a gentle motion, pull the tick straight upwards. You don’t want to jerk the tick too hard or the tick head might break off in your skin. **Do NOT twist the tick**. Ticks do not have screw-shaped mouthparts and twisting does nothing to help get them out. After removing the tick, check to see if any pieces of it remain. Here’s [what to do if the tick head gets stuck in your skin](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-remove-a-tick-head-stuck-in-your-skin/). ### 4. Kill the Tick If you remove the tick properly, it should still be alive when you take it out.  You should: - Soak it in alcohol - Seal it in a bag and throw it away - Flush  it down the toilet If you are really concerned that the tick might contain Lyme disease pathogens, you can take it to your doctor for testing. Never crush a live tick with your fingers as this could release pathogens.  Admittedly, I have killed ticks with tweezers while on hikes, but make sure not to touch the dead tick and then disinfect the tweezers once I’m back in civilization. ### 5. Clean the Bite Area Use alcohol, iodine or soap and water to clean the bite area. ## Monitor for Symptoms of Disease It is normal for the tick bite area to be bit red. However, it is not normal for the bite area to get red days or weeks afterwards.  This could be a sign of Lyme disease. You’ll also want to be on the lookout for other symptoms of Lyme disease, such as fatigue and fever-like symptoms. See these [photos of Lyme disease rashes](https://momgoescamping.com/lyme-disease-rash-photos/). ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/lyme-disease-17-days-post-bite.jpg "lyme disease 17 days post bite - Mom Goes Camping")Photo of early stage Lyme disease rash taken 17 days post tick bite As someone who has been bitten by ticks numerous times, I know how anxiety-inducing it can be to wait and see if you develop any symptoms of Lyme disease.  Because of this, a lot of people consider tick lyme testing. The idea is that, if the tick tests positive, you can get started on antibiotic treatment faster. ## I Don’t Test Ticks for Lyme I personally have never sent a tick for Lyme testing. Tick testing typically costs $50 to $75 per tick, and the tests aren’t covered by insurance, so I’d end up spending a small fortune on lab tests if I tested each tick that bit me.  But the cost isn’t the reason I don’t test ticks. **A bit must be attached 24 to 72 hours to transmit the Lyme bacteria.**  I am very diligent about checking my body for ticks after being outdoors, and do a morning and evening check when on camping trips.  I also keep [tick removal tweezers](https://momgoescamping.com/tick-removal-tools-humans/) in my wallet and [outdoor first aid kit](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-first-aid-kit-checklist/) so I can remove any ticks immediately and properly. Because of this, even if a tick which bit me was carrying Lyme, the chances of it giving me the disease are very low. [![backpacking first aid kit](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/hiking-first-aid-kit.jpg "hiking first aid kit - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/hiking-first-aid-kit.jpg)I keep [these pointy tick tweezers](https://amzn.to/3YNGXhp) in my hiking first aid kit ## Tick Testing Makes Sense If… There are some situations where it makes absolute sense to have a tick tested. These include: ### 1. The Tick Was Improperly Removed The 24-hour rule for Lyme disease transmission only applies if you remove the tick properly.  If you do anything to irritate the tick while it is attached—such as using a hot match to remove it or squeezing its body during removal—the tick could puke its stomach contents into your skin, transmitting Lyme disease. **Read: [How to Properly Remove a Tick (with Video)](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-remove-tick/)** ![Improper removal: Do NOT squeeze a tick's body when removing it!](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/improper-tick-removal.jpg "Removing a tick from a dog. A tick in parasite removal tongs in - Mom Goes Camping")Improper removal Do NOT squeeze a ticks body when removing it You must grasp close to its mouthparts ### 2. The Tick Is Fully Engorged Nymph ticks typically become fully engorged within 2-3 days and adult ticks within 4-5 days. If you find a fully-engorged tick on you, it has probably been there for a while—which means there is a good chance it transmitted Lyme disease if it is a carrier. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/engorge-and-not-engorged-adult-tick.jpg "engorged and not engorged tick comparison - Mom Goes Camping")A tick before feeding left and an engorged tick right ### 3. The Tick Bit Your Infant or Young Child The symptoms of Lyme disease are similar in children as in adults, but infants and young children might not be able to tell you that they are having symptoms. If your child doesn’t have the characteristic bull’s eye Lyme rash, you might just think they are being fussy or their fever is from yet another virus from daycare, when Lyme is actually the culprit.  The symptoms could go undetected and the Lyme disease could progress into late-stage Lyme, which is much harder to treat and has a worse prognosis. ### 4. You Have Dark Skin Black people and other people of color are more likely to get diagnosed in the later stages of Lyme disease. One main reason for this is because the Lyme rash—which is typically the first symptom of Lyme–is very difficult to notice on dark skin. As a result, many BIPOC people don’t realize they have Lyme until other symptoms become severe. **See: [Pictures of Lyme disease rashes](https://momgoescamping.com/lyme-disease-rash-photos/)** ### 5. You Want Peace of Mind It takes anywhere from 3 to 30 days for the Lyme disease rash to show up if you are infected (if a rash shows up at all). Waiting to see if you get the rash can be incredibly stressful.  It may be well worth the $50+ for tick testing to get peace of mind. ## How to Send a Tick for Testing Each lab has its own protocols for tick testing, but you generally must: 1. Put the tick in a zip baggie and seal it closed. 2. If the tick is still alive: 1. Put a small piece (1″x1″) of damp paper towel in the baggie. 2. Place the first baggie in a second baggie and seal it closed. 3. If the tick is engorged: Wrap the baggie with bubble wrap. Alternatively, use a cushioned envelope. This is to prevent the tick’s body from getting crushed during transport. 4. Put the tick in an envelope. 5. Label the envelope, or include the lab submission form, and send the tick for testing. ### Do NOT: - Burn the tick - Coat the tick with anything, such as nail polish remover or essential oils - Send the tick in alcohol - Wrap the tick in toilet paper There’s no time limit for testing a tick for Lyme. However, it’s best to do the test as soon as possible so you can get treatment quickly. --- ## How NOT to Remove a Tick There are plenty of other ways to remove ticks, and some of them are easier than using tweezers.  Yet, virtually all of these tick removal methods are NOT safe. **Anytime you irritate the tick when removing it, the tick can start to salivate.  The saliva increases the likelihood that disease-causing pathogens will get into your blood and make you sick.**  Some methods may also cause the tick to burrow *deeper* into you, which will make it even harder to get out and increase the likelihood of getting sick. I’ll go over some of these unsafe tick removal methods below. ### Squeezing/Killing the Tick While It Is Still Attached If you kill the tick by squeezing it while it is still attached, it can push the tick’s stomach contents into the wound.  This increases the likelihood of disease transmission.  It also might cause the tick head to get stuck in your skin. ### Touching a Tick with a Hot Match This tick removal method irritates the tick, causing it to detach and come out.  While it does sometimes work, the tick is more likely to regurgitate saliva into you.  The tick might also burst from the heat, which will almost certainly release any pathogens in the tick into your body. ### Liquid Soap on a Cotton Ball Another effective but unsafe tick removal method is to cover it with liquid soap (often put on a cotton ball first).  This method suffocates the tick, theoretically causing it to exit your skin as it searches for air.  It is unsafe because the irritated tick might regurgitate into your skin as it exits. ### Vaseline Covering a tick with Vaseline works in the same way as the liquid soap method: suffocation.  Like with the soap method, it is unsafe because it irritates the tick and increases the chances of disease transmission. ### Peppermint Oil Applying peppermint or other essential oils to a tick can irritate it and cause it to come out on its own.  But, like with other unsafe tick removal methods, it increases the chances that disease transmission could occur. ### Hydrogen Peroxide, Gasoline, Alcohol or Nail Polish Remover Like with other unsafe tick removal methods, applying chemicals like rubbing alcohol to a tick can cause it to throw up into the wound and increase the chances of disease transmission. On top of this, multiple studies show the methods aren’t even effective: some ticks will stay attached even after slathered in chemicals for 30+ minutes. ### Twisting the Tick Off One method for removing ticks that is often recommended is to twist it off.  The idea is that you can unscrew the tick. Some popular tick removal tools (like O’Tom Tick Twister) are based on this idea.  However, evidence shows that twisting is NOT a safe way to remove a tick. Ticks do not have screw-shaped mouths, so twisting will not unscrew them.  Some studies do show that a twisting motion can decrease the amount of force needed to remove a tick. However, more studies show that twisting increases the likelihood that the mouthparts will remain in the skin. Further, experts warn that twisting can cause a tick’s potentially infectious fluids to escape into the wound. --- ###### Image credits: “[What makes you tick](https://www.flickr.com/photos/mislav-marohnic/8647968726/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [mislav-m](https://www.flickr.com/people/mislav-marohnic/), “[Juvenile Deer Ticks](https://www.flickr.com/photos/niaid/37451062672/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [NIAID](https://www.flickr.com/people/niaid/) ###### Resources: <https://www.maine.gov/dhhs/mecdc/infectious-disease/epi/vector-borne/lyme/documents/ticked.pdf>, <https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/newsroom/news-releases/2023/12/black-individuals-more-likely-to-experience-inequities-in-early-diagnosis-and-treatment-of-lyme-disease-new-research-shows> , <https://www.galaxydx.com/lyme-disease-in-black-people/> https://www.lymedisease.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Coleman-2804-14523-1-PB.pdf, <https://www.aafp.org/afp/2002/0815/p643.html>, <https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/75/6/997.short>, <https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Stylianos-Roupakias-2/publication/51449837_Tick_removal/links/568b9d8908ae1975839f869f/Tick-removal.pdf>, https://www.lymedisease.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Coleman-2804-14523-1-PB.pdf, <https://ohioline.osu.edu/factsheet/HYG-2073>, https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/content/uploads/sites/12/2016/02/TickBrochure.pdf, <http://coastalcpr.com/how-to-remove-a-tick/>, <https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/matchless-strategy-for-tick-removal-6-steps-to-avoid-tick-bites-201306076360>, <https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/jun/07/facebook-posts/no-liquid-soap-not-effective-way-remove-ticks-use-/>< <https://www.healthvermont.gov/sites/default/files/documents/pdf/hs_id_vzd_vt_if_you_have_a_tick_bite.pdf> ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety **Tags:** ticks --- ### [How to Make a Fire in the Rain](https://momgoescamping.com/make-fire-rain/) **Published:** November 26, 2025 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Knowing how to make a fire in the rain is one of my favorite camping skills – and honestly, one of the most rewarding. There’s something incredibly satisfying about getting a fire going in a downpour when everyone else has given up. It makes rainy camping trips actually enjoyable instead of miserable, and yeah, it’ll definitely impress your camping buddies. Here’s the good news: **it’s actually not that difficult to make a fire in the rain** if you use the right fire lay. I’ve started fires in everything from light drizzles to full-on downpours, and the technique I’m sharing below works consistently. The key is understanding that you’re essentially building a shelter for your fire while it grows. **Important:** Don’t bother attempting this unless you’ve got [proper rain gear](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-in-the-rain/). If you’re not equipped to stay dry yourself, you’re better off waiting out the storm in your tent. You’ll need a quality rain jacket at minimum. I’m also a huge fan of rain pants, even though they make me look like I’m in an MC Hammer video from the 90s. You can see my picks for the [best rain pants](https://momgoescamping.com/best-waterproof-womens-hiking-pants/) here. **Here’s the video. Detailed instructions are below.** ## Do You Need Dry Wood to Make a Fire in the Rain? This is the question everyone asks, and the answer surprises most people: **No, you do NOT need dry wood** to make a fire in the rain – at least not with the A-frame and lean-to fire lays I’m about to show you. However, you absolutely DO need dry tinder to get your initial kindling burning. Once you get those first small sticks going, they’ll dry out the slightly larger sticks above them. When those catch, they’ll dry the next layer, and so on. It’s a beautiful chain reaction once you get it started. ### What to Use for Dry Tinder in Wet Conditions I always carry homemade firestarters made from dryer lint dipped in Vaseline. These burn for about 7 minutes and have never let me down, even in heavy rain. They’re cheap to make and weigh almost nothing – there’s really no reason not to have them in your pack. If you don’t have dry tinder with you, you’ll need to make some using a knife. [Shave](https://momgoescamping.com/knife-sharpening-tips/) thin pieces off a stick to remove the wet exterior and expose the dry wood inside. Even in a downpour, the interior of most dead standing wood stays relatively dry. Look for standing dead branches rather than wood on the ground, which soaks through completely. ![Vaseline lint fire starters](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/step-4a-fire-starters.jpg) ![Ontario RAT-3 outdoor knife](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/ontario-rat-3-outdoor-knife.jpg) [Get it here.](https://amzn.to/3ynQr7Q) ## Can I Make a Fire Under a Tent or Shelter? **Absolutely not.** Never make a fire underneath a shelter or tent. This is dangerous for multiple reasons: - You risk burning down your shelter (trust me, synthetic tent materials melt and ignite fast) - Carbon monoxide can accumulate in enclosed spaces, leading to [poisoning or death](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-21059594) - It’s completely unnecessary – a properly built rain fire stays lit even with rain falling directly on it That said, you CAN build your fire near the opening of a shelter, as long as you maintain a safe distance. If you’re using a [tarp](https://momgoescamping.com/tarp-shelters/) setup, a loue pitch (low on one end, high on the other) works particularly well. Position your fire just outside the low opening where you can tend it while staying mostly dry. ![Make your fire at the mouth of the loue tent to keep the rain out of it.](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/loue-loude-for-fire-in-rain-1024x693.jpg) ## How to Make a Fire in the Rain: Step-by-Step Guide ### Step 1: Clear Your Fire Pit Start by clearing the ground as best you can. You want to remove wet leaves, pine needles, and debris. I usually use a thick stick to scrape everything away – no need for fancy tools. The goal here is to create a clean workspace and reduce moisture at the base of your fire. Even if the ground itself is wet, getting rid of soggy debris makes a difference. ![Clearing the fire pit area](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/clearn-fire-pit.jpg) ### Step 2: Build a Floor for the Fire This step is critical and often overlooked. **You need to get your fire off the wet ground.** Otherwise, moisture will wick up from below and kill your fire before it really gets going. Create a platform using sticks laid side by side on the ground. These don’t need to be dry – in fact, green wood works great for this purpose since it won’t burn through quickly. Make your platform large enough to accommodate your fire base with a few inches to spare. Here’s what’s cool: as your fire burns above, it will actually dry out these platform sticks. They’ll eventually contribute coals to your fire, giving you excellent long-lasting heat. ![Creating a stick floor for the fire](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/floor.jpg) ![Upside down fire in the rain](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/upside-down-fire.jpg) ### Step 3: Build an A-Frame or Lean-To Fire Lay There are [6 main ways to lay a fire](https://momgoescamping.com/make-fire-woods/), but in the rain, you’ll want to use either a lean-to or an A-frame. These fire lays are genius for wet conditions because you’re essentially building a roof over your fire. The wood protects the growing flames from rain while simultaneously serving as fuel. The fire burns from bottom to top, drying each layer before it catches. #### To Make a Lean-To Fire: 1. Find a large log or rock and place it next to the floor you made. This becomes your frame 2. Start with your smallest twigs (pencil-thin or smaller) and lean them against the frame 3. Gradually add larger sticks, building up layers to create a slanted roof 4. Make sure to leave an opening at the base where you’ll start your fire and where oxygen can enter #### To Make an A-Frame: 1. Find a long, thick log or branch – this is your ridgepole 2. Prop it up on both ends over the floor you made (use rocks, forked sticks, or other logs) 3. Start with small twigs and lean them on both sides of the ridgepole 4. Keep adding progressively larger sticks to create a slanted roof on both sides 5. The shape should look like a tent or the letter “A” from the end ![A-frame fire lay](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/a-frame-fire.jpg) ![Lean to fire lay in the rain](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/lean-to-fire-lay-in-the-rain.jpg) ![Making the fire frame](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/making-frame.jpg) ### Step 4: Build Up Your Roof Keep adding sticks to your structure, working your way up with progressively larger pieces. The thicker your roof, the better it will protect the fire below from rain. I usually aim for at least 3-4 layers of increasingly large sticks. One major advantage of this method: once you get it going, you won’t need to constantly add wood. The fire is self-feeding as it burns upward through your carefully constructed roof. This is especially valuable if you’re trying to stay dry in a nearby shelter. ### Step 5: Light a Small Fire Under the Roof Now comes the moment of truth. Using your dry tinder, light a small teepee fire under the roof you built. Place your firestarter or tinder bundle in the opening you left, surrounded by your smallest kindling. Light it and wait. Don’t rush to add more kindling or mess with it. Give the fire time to establish itself and start drying out the wood above. This takes patience – usually 5-10 minutes before you see real progress. ### Step 6: Maintain and Expand the Roof As the fire burns upward through your structure, the lower layers will dry out the upper layers. Keep adding to the roof as needed, always maintaining that protective barrier between your flames and the rain. Once you’ve got good coals going, the fire becomes much more resilient. At this point, it can handle rain hitting it directly without going out. ![Maintaining the fire roof](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/step-7.jpg) ## Troubleshooting Common Problems ### My Fire Keeps Going Out Usually this means one of three things: - **Not enough initial tinder:** That first flame needs to burn for at least 5-7 minutes to really dry out the kindling above it. Use more tinder or better firestarters. - **Kindling too large:** Start smaller than you think you need. The first layer should be twigs the thickness of a matchstick or toothpick. - **Not enough air flow:** Make sure you left adequate openings for oxygen to reach the fire. ### The Wood Won’t Catch This usually happens when the wood is absolutely saturated. Look for standing dead wood rather than anything on the ground. Standing dead branches, even in rain, have drier interiors. Also, be patient – it can take 10-15 minutes for wet wood to dry enough to catch. ### How Long Does It Take? In light rain with decent materials, I can usually have a fire going in 15-20 minutes. In heavy rain or with really wet wood, it might take 30-40 minutes. Don’t give up too early – persistence pays off. ## When Should You Give Up? Be honest with yourself about conditions. If it’s an absolute deluge and you can’t find any standing dead wood, sometimes it’s better to wait. Also consider whether you actually need the fire. If you’re just trying to prove a point, that’s ego talking. If you need it for warmth or cooking, that’s different. Always have a backup plan. I carry a backpacking stove for cooking and never rely solely on fire, especially in questionable weather. ## Frequently Asked Questions ### What type of wood works best in the rain? Dead standing wood (still attached to the tree) is ideal because it stays drier inside even during rain. Avoid wood that’s been on the ground – it soaks through completely. Pine and other softwoods dry faster but burn quickly. Hardwoods like oak take longer to dry but burn longer once lit. ### Can you use wet wood to start a fire? Yes, with the A-frame or lean-to method, you can use wet wood for everything except your initial tinder. The key is starting with completely dry tinder and very small kindling, then letting the fire dry each successive layer of wood before it needs to catch. ### How do you keep a fire going in the rain? Once established, keep feeding larger wood to maintain the “roof” structure. The fire will continue drying out wood above it. If rain intensifies, add more layers to the top. A bed of good coals is your best insurance – once you have that, the fire is quite resilient. ### Do fire starters work in the rain? Yes! Commercial fire starters and homemade Vaseline-lint starters work great in rain. They provide the sustained flame needed to dry out wet kindling. They’re far more reliable than matches or basic tinder in wet conditions. ### What should I do if I don’t have dry tinder? Use a knife to shave thin strips from the inside of dead standing branches. You can also look for natural dry spots: under rock overhangs, inside hollow logs, beneath thick evergreen branches, or in bird nests. Birch bark (if you’re in an area where you can harvest sustainably) is naturally waterproof and makes excellent emergency tinder. ## Final Thoughts Making a fire in the rain is one of those skills that seems impossible until you do it once. Then it becomes second nature. The A-frame and lean-to methods work because they use physics in your favor – creating shelter for the fire while simultaneously feeding it fuel. Practice this technique in your backyard on a rainy day before you need it in the backcountry. Once you’ve successfully done it a few times, you’ll have the confidence to try it when it really matters. And trust me, there’s nothing quite like sitting around a crackling fire you built in pouring rain, staying warm and dry while everyone else is huddled miserably in their tents. Stay dry, stay warm, and get out there! --- ### Guess what? I wrote a book! The book has over 50 dehydrator recipes for backpacking — including ones with over 150 calories per ounce! Now that will shave weight from your pack!!! There’s also tons of info on nutrition and meal planning for backpacking. [Learn more here](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/). Or [buy the book instantly](https://gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck/). ![Camping meals book](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/gallery-min-640x647.jpg) [Get it here](https://gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck/). --- **Image credits:** “[0T8A5116](https://www.flickr.com/photos/134330182@N08/26972177605/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Phototaking101](https://www.flickr.com/people/134330182@N08/) “[Campfire in Rain](https://www.flickr.com/photos/rbh/15025761812/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [RichardBH](https://www.flickr.com/people/rbh/) “[Erected loue](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loue_%28tent%29#/media/File:Erected_loue.jpg)” ([CC BY-SA 3.0](http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0)) by [Creidiki](https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Creidiki&action=edit&redlink=1) “[10. Waxed tea bag alight](https://www.flickr.com/photos/coconino/3335481253/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [coconinoco](https://www.flickr.com/people/coconino/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety **Tags:** campfire, fire, rain --- ### [Ultimate Guide: Best Camping Hammocks for Families and Backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/ultimate-guide-best-camping-hammocks-for-families-and-backpacking/) **Published:** August 30, 2026 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Half the reason I bring a hammock camping isn’t for sleeping in it, it’s for the ten minutes of actual quiet I get lying in it while my kids run around the campsite. Every family camping trip should have one, and after buying way too many cheap ones that either didn’t include straps or fell apart after a season, here’s what I’d actually recommend. ## Quick Picks - **Best Overall: [ENO DoubleNest Bundle](https://www.amazon.com/ENO-DoubleNest-Hammock-Lightweight-Portable/dp/B0C4LY272R?tag=momcampnew-20)** – Hammock and straps together, no separate purchase needed - **Best Budget Pick: [Wise Owl Outfitters Camping Hammock](https://www.amazon.com/Wise-Owl-Outfitters-Camping-Hammock/dp/B0GFFRXBP8?tag=momcampnew-20)** – Straps included, 500lb capacity, genuinely affordable - **Best for Bugs and Rain: [Sunyear Hammock with Rain Fly and Net](https://www.amazon.com/Sunyear-Portable-Backpacking-Survival-Waterproof/dp/B0H8PMXLLZ?tag=momcampnew-20)** – The whole kit, not just a hammock - **Best for Families: [Wise Owl Outfitters Hammock Duo](https://www.amazon.com/Wise-Owl-Outfitters-Camping-Hammocks/dp/B09K2TZ7XB?tag=momcampnew-20)** – One adult-size, one kid-size, sold as a pair - **Best for Backpacking: [ENO SingleNest Bundle](https://www.amazon.com/ENO-SingleNest-Hammock-Suspension-Lightweight/dp/B0C54KX4TX?tag=momcampnew-20)** – 16oz total with straps, disappears in your pack **Become a camping pro with printable Camping Cheat Sheets.** [Download here](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets), everything from packing lists to campsite setup, ready to print before you go. ## Comparison Table | Hammock | Best For | Weight Capacity | Weight | Straps Included? | |---|---|---|---|---| | ENO DoubleNest Bundle | Best Overall | 400 lbs | 19 oz | Yes | | Wise Owl Outfitters | Best Budget | 500 lbs | ~16 oz | Yes | | Sunyear with Rain Fly | Best for Bugs/Rain | 500 lbs | ~3.5 lbs (full kit) | Yes | | Wise Owl Hammock Duo | Best for Families | Adult + kid sizes | Varies by size | Yes | | ENO SingleNest Bundle | Best for Backpacking | 400 lbs | 16 oz | Yes | ## Best Camping Hammocks, Reviewed ### 1. [ENO DoubleNest Bundle](https://www.amazon.com/ENO-DoubleNest-Hammock-Lightweight-Portable/dp/B0C4LY272R?tag=momcampnew-20) **Best for:** The one hammock most families should just buy #### Features - **Size:** 9’4″ x 6’2″, fits 1-2 people - **Weight capacity:** 400 lbs - **Weight:** 19 oz total (hammock + Atlas straps) - **Straps:** Atlas Suspension System included, 30 adjustment points, no knots needed - **Material:** Triple-stitched FreeWave nylon **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/ENO-DoubleNest-Hammock-Lightweight-Portable/dp/B0C4LY272R?tag=momcampnew-20)** #### Review ENO is the brand everyone recommends for a reason, and I’ll be the boring voice here saying it’s worth the reputation. The important thing about this listing specifically is that it’s the bundle with straps included. I bought a standalone ENO hammock years ago and didn’t realize straps were sold separately until I was standing at a campsite with nothing to hang it on. Don’t make my mistake, get the bundle. It stuffs into its own sack down to about the size of a grapefruit, which means it lives permanently in our car camping bin without taking up real space. Big enough for one person to sprawl out or two to sit together, and the 400lb capacity means it’s not something you have to think twice about with older kids or two adults. Setup with the Atlas straps is genuinely wrap-clip-done, no knot-tying required, which matters when you’re setting up camp with kids pulling at your sleeve. **Pros** - Straps included, no separate purchase - Packs down tiny - Fits 1-2 people comfortably - No-knot setup **Cons** - No bug net or rain protection built in - Pricier than the budget options here --- ### 2. [Wise Owl Outfitters Camping Hammock](https://www.amazon.com/Wise-Owl-Outfitters-Camping-Hammock/dp/B0GFFRXBP8?tag=momcampnew-20) **Best for:** Trying out hammock camping without spending much #### Features - **Weight capacity:** 500 lbs - **Available:** Single or double - **Straps:** Tree straps included - **Material:** Parachute nylon **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/Wise-Owl-Outfitters-Camping-Hammock/dp/B0GFFRXBP8?tag=momcampnew-20)** #### Review This is what I’d buy for a kid who wants their “own” hammock, or for anyone testing whether they actually like hammock camping before spending ENO money. Wise Owl is a small Tennessee-based company, and the quality is better than the price suggests. Mine has survived two seasons of my kids using it as a trampoline substitute, which is not what it’s designed for and I don’t recommend, but it held up. The straps that come with it are fine, not amazing. If you’re hanging it on rough bark trees a lot, you might eventually want to upgrade to wider straps, but for weekend car camping trips they work fine out of the box. **Pros** - Genuinely affordable - Straps included - Holds up better than the price suggests **Cons** - Straps aren’t as durable as premium options - Fewer color/print options than ENO --- ### 3. [Sunyear Hammock with Rain Fly and Net](https://www.amazon.com/Sunyear-Portable-Backpacking-Survival-Waterproof/dp/B0H8PMXLLZ?tag=momcampnew-20) **Best for:** Actually sleeping in a hammock overnight, bugs and weather included #### Features - **Weight capacity:** 500 lbs - **Includes:** Hammock, mosquito net, waterproof rain fly with 32ft ridgeline, 2x 10ft straps, stakes - **Material:** 210T parachute nylon **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/Sunyear-Portable-Backpacking-Survival-Waterproof/dp/B0H8PMXLLZ?tag=momcampnew-20)** #### Review A bare hammock is great for lounging, but if you actually want to sleep in one overnight, you need bug protection and something over your head if it rains. This kit gives you both instead of making you buy three separate products and hope they’re compatible sizes. The rain fly is the real selling point here. It’s a proper 32-foot ridgeline setup, not some flimsy tarp thrown in as an afterthought. I wouldn’t call this ultralight, the full kit weighs a few pounds, but for a car camping trip where you want the option to actually sleep suspended instead of on the ground, this is the one to get. **Pros** - Complete kit, nothing else to buy - Real rain protection, not an afterthought - Good for actually sleeping overnight **Cons** - Heavier and bulkier than a standalone hammock - More setup time with the rain fly involved --- ### 4. [Wise Owl Outfitters Hammock Duo](https://www.amazon.com/Wise-Owl-Outfitters-Camping-Hammocks/dp/B09K2TZ7XB?tag=momcampnew-20) **Best for:** Ending the fight over whose turn it is in the hammock #### Features - **Set includes:** One adult-size hammock, one kid-size hammock - **Straps:** Tree straps included for both - **Material:** Parachute nylon, triple interlock stitching **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/Wise-Owl-Outfitters-Camping-Hammocks/dp/B09K2TZ7XB?tag=momcampnew-20)** #### Review I wish I’d bought this instead of a single hammock years ago. Bringing one hammock camping with kids means someone is always waiting their turn, and someone is always upset about it. This set solves that by just giving everyone their own, sized appropriately, so a kid isn’t drowning in a hammock built for an adult. Same solid Wise Owl build quality as their adult hammock, just scaled down for the kid version. It’s not fancy, but it’s exactly what it needs to be, and it’s the one product on this list that directly solves a specific family camping problem rather than just being a good hammock in general. **Pros** - Solves the sharing problem entirely - Kid-appropriate sizing, not just a smaller adult hammock - Straps included for both **Cons** - Only useful if you actually have a kid to use the small one - Still just 2 hammocks, more kids means more fighting anyway --- ### 5. [ENO SingleNest Bundle](https://www.amazon.com/ENO-SingleNest-Hammock-Suspension-Lightweight/dp/B0C54KX4TX?tag=momcampnew-20) **Best for:** Backpacking trips where pack weight actually matters #### Features - **Size:** 9.5′ long, 1 person - **Weight capacity:** 400 lbs - **Weight:** 16 oz total (hammock + Atlas straps) - **Straps:** Atlas Suspension System included **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/ENO-SingleNest-Hammock-Suspension-Lightweight/dp/B0C54KX4TX?tag=momcampnew-20)** #### Review One pound total, including straps, and it packs down to the size of a grapefruit. On a backpacking trip where I’m counting ounces for everything else, this is the one piece of pure comfort gear I don’t feel guilty bringing. Set it up in a few minutes, lie back after a long hiking day, done. It’s not built for two people or heavy overnight sleeping setups, that’s what the DoubleNest or the Sunyear kit above are for. This is a solo lounging hammock that happens to also work fine for an occasional nap in the shade mid-hike. Keep your expectations there and you’ll be happy with it. **Pros** - Barely registers in pack weight - Straps included - Packs down tiny **Cons** - Single person only - No bug or rain protection built in --- ## How to Choose a Camping Hammock ### Check If Straps Are Actually Included This trips up more people than it should, myself included the first time. A lot of hammock listings, especially from bigger brands, sell the hammock and the tree straps as separate purchases. Read the listing carefully before you buy, or you’ll be standing at a campsite with a hammock and nothing to hang it on. ### Do You Actually Need Bug Netting and a Rain Fly? If you’re just planning to lounge in it during the day, a bare hammock is all you need. If you want to actually sleep in it overnight, especially anywhere with mosquitoes, get one with an integrated or included bug net. A rain fly matters even more if there’s any real chance of overnight rain, since there’s nothing worse than waking up soaked at 3am with no tent to retreat to. ### Use Wide, Tree-Friendly Straps Never hang a hammock with rope or thin cord, it cuts into tree bark and can genuinely damage the tree over time. Look for straps at least 1-1.5 inches wide, which is also what most parks and campgrounds require if they allow hammocks at all. Worth checking your specific campground’s rules before you go, since some don’t allow tree hanging at all. ## Camping Hammock FAQ ### Do camping hammocks come with straps? Not always, and this catches a lot of first-time buyers off guard. Always check the listing specifically. Budget options like Wise Owl typically include straps, while some premium hammocks (including the standalone ENO models) sell the hammock and straps separately, so look for a bundle listing if you want everything in one purchase. ### Can you sleep overnight in a camping hammock? Yes, but you’ll want one with a bug net at minimum, and a rain fly if there’s any chance of weather. A bare lounging hammock like the ENO DoubleNest works fine for daytime relaxing but isn’t set up for a comfortable, protected overnight sleep on its own. ### What size hammock do I need for camping with kids? A double hammock works fine for a parent and one smaller kid together, but if you have more than one kid, consider a set with a dedicated kid-size hammock so nobody’s fighting over turns. It also just fits them better than swimming around in an adult-sized one. ### How much weight can a camping hammock hold? Most camping hammocks are rated between 400-500 lbs, which is plenty for one or two adults, or an adult and a couple of kids together. Always check the specific weight rating before combining people in a hammock built for one. ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety --- ### [Best Camping Pillows (2026): Compressible, Inflatable & Budget Picks Tested](https://momgoescamping.com/best-camping-pillows-2026-compressible-inflatable-budget-picks-tested/) **Published:** August 31, 2026 **Author:** Diane **Content:** For years I used a rolled-up hoodie as a camping pillow, because a “real” pillow felt like an unnecessary luxury item for a weekend trip. Then I actually tried a proper camping pillow and immediately understood why my neck had been sore every single camping morning for a decade. It’s not a luxury item. It’s the difference between waking up rested and waking up wondering why you’re limping to the coffee pot. Here’s what’s actually worth packing, sorted by what kind of trip you’re taking. ## Quick Picks - **Best Overall: [Therm-a-Rest Compressible Pillow](https://www.amazon.com/Therm-Rest-Compressible-Backpacking-Airplanes/dp/B083BPBR2N?tag=momcampnew-20)** – Feels like your bed pillow, packs down for the car - **Best Budget Pick: [Wise Owl Outfitters Camping Pillow](https://www.amazon.com/Wise-Owl-Outfitters-Camping-Compressible/dp/B07C85S2PV?tag=momcampnew-20)** – Under 12oz, works for adults and kids - **Best for Backpacking: [Sea to Summit Aeros Ultralight](https://www.amazon.com/Sea-Summit-Aeros-Ultralight-Pillow/dp/B07NHBYR2P?tag=momcampnew-20)** – 2.5oz, packs smaller than a deck of cards - **Best Hybrid/Most Comfortable: [NEMO Fillo](https://www.amazon.com/Nemo-Fillo-Pillow/dp/B079JYKJYJ?tag=momcampnew-20)** – Air support with a real foam top layer - **Best Shredded Foam: [Klymit Drift](https://www.amazon.com/Klymit-Camping-Reversible-Shredded-Large-Green/dp/B081ZZVH3M?tag=momcampnew-20)** – Moldable comfort, no air valve to fuss with **Become a camping pro with printable Camping Cheat Sheets.** [Download here](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets), everything from packing lists to campsite setup, ready to print before you go. ## Comparison Table | Pillow | Best For | Fill Type | Weight | Packed Size | |---|---|---|---|---| | Therm-a-Rest Compressible | Best Overall | Foam | 15 oz (XL) | 7x7x18 in | | Wise Owl Outfitters | Best Budget | Memory Foam | ~11 oz | Fits stuff sack | | Sea to Summit Aeros Ultralight | Best for Backpacking | Inflatable | 2.5 oz | 2×3.25 in | | NEMO Fillo | Best Hybrid | Air + Foam | ~11 oz | Attached stuff sack | | Klymit Drift | Best Shredded Foam | Shredded Memory Foam | 19-28 oz | 11x5x5 in | ## Best Camping Pillows, Reviewed ### 1. [Therm-a-Rest Compressible Pillow](https://www.amazon.com/Therm-Rest-Compressible-Backpacking-Airplanes/dp/B083BPBR2N?tag=momcampnew-20) **Best for:** Car camping, closest thing to your actual bed pillow #### Features - **Fill:** Upcycled urethane foam (byproduct of Therm-a-Rest sleeping pad manufacturing) - **Sizes:** Small (7oz) through XL (15oz) - **Cover:** Brushed polyester, machine washable - **Adjustment:** Drawstring cinch to tune firmness **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/Therm-Rest-Compressible-Backpacking-Airplanes/dp/B083BPBR2N?tag=momcampnew-20)** #### Review This is the pillow that made me stop using a rolled-up hoodie. It doesn’t feel like camping gear, it feels like an actual pillow, which is exactly the point. The foam fill has some give to it without going flat halfway through the night, and the cinch cord means you can firm it up if you’re a side sleeper or loosen it if you like something softer. It’s bulkier than the inflatable options once packed, closer to a lump than a compact roll, so this isn’t the one I’d bring backpacking. But for car camping where trunk space isn’t the constraint, this is what’s in my bag every single trip now. **Pros** - Feels like a real pillow, not camping gear - Adjustable firmness - Machine washable - Multiple sizes available **Cons** - Bulkier than inflatable pillows when packed - Not ideal for backpacking --- ### 2. [Wise Owl Outfitters Camping Pillow](https://www.amazon.com/Wise-Owl-Outfitters-Camping-Compressible/dp/B07C85S2PV?tag=momcampnew-20) **Best for:** Getting one for every kid without spending a fortune #### Features - **Fill:** Memory foam, 4 inches thick - **Weight:** Under 12 oz - **Cover:** Micro-suede, removable and washable - **Includes:** Waterproof stuff sack **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/Wise-Owl-Outfitters-Camping-Compressible/dp/B07C85S2PV?tag=momcampnew-20)** #### Review Once you have kids camping with you, “everyone shares one pillow” stops being a viable plan real fast. This is what I buy multiples of, one per kid, because it’s cheap enough to not feel bad about and actually holds up. The memory foam fluffs up in about a minute once it’s out of the sack, and 4 inches of thickness is plenty for a kid’s head and neck. It’s not going to out-comfort the Therm-a-Rest for an adult who’s picky about pillows, but for the price, and for kids who genuinely don’t care as much as we think they do, this covers it. **Pros** - Cheap enough to buy several - Washable cover - Good size for kids **Cons** - Less plush than pricier options - Small size may not suit taller adults --- ### 3. [Sea to Summit Aeros Ultralight](https://www.amazon.com/Sea-Summit-Aeros-Ultralight-Pillow/dp/B07NHBYR2P?tag=momcampnew-20) **Best for:** Backpacking trips where every ounce is negotiated with yourself #### Features - **Weight:** 2.5 oz (Large) - **Packed size:** 2 x 3.25 inches, smaller than a deck of cards - **Fill:** TPU air bladder, multi-function valve for firmness control - **Extras:** Compatible with Sea to Summit pads that have PillowLock patches **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/Sea-Summit-Aeros-Ultralight-Pillow/dp/B07NHBYR2P?tag=momcampnew-20)** #### Review On a backpacking trip, this is the pillow I’d actually carry. It’s lighter than most people’s phone case and disappears into a pack pocket you forget exists. The scalloped edge is a nice touch, it actually cradles your shoulder instead of just being a flat air bag under your head. It’s an air pillow, so it has that slightly bouncy, crinkly feel that some people can’t get past. If you’ve never used an inflatable pillow before, don’t judge it on the first ten minutes, most people adjust within a night or two. If you never adjust, that’s fine too, that’s what the foam options above are for. **Pros** - Barely registers in pack weight - Packs incredibly small - Adjustable firmness via valve **Cons** - Bouncy, crinkly feel takes some getting used to - Can puncture if you’re not careful where you set it down --- ### 4. [NEMO Fillo](https://www.amazon.com/Nemo-Fillo-Pillow/dp/B079JYKJYJ?tag=momcampnew-20) **Best for:** Wanting inflatable packability without the inflatable feel #### Features - **Fill:** Air cell with a luxury foam top layer - **Cover:** Machine-washable microsuede - **Valve:** Micro-adjustable for fine-tuning firmness - **Extras:** Attached stuff sack, never gets lost **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/Nemo-Fillo-Pillow/dp/B079JYKJYJ?tag=momcampnew-20)** #### Review This is the pillow I recommend to people who’ve tried an inflatable pillow, hated the bouncy feel, but still want the packability. The foam layer on top of the air cell actually solves that problem, you get a soft surface to rest your head on instead of taut fabric over air. It inflates in a few breaths and the valve lets you fine-tune it more precisely than most. The attached stuff sack is a small detail that matters more than it sounds like it would, I’ve lost more than one separate pillow sack over the years and this one just can’t wander off. Costs more than the Sea to Summit option, but the comfort difference is real. **Pros** - Foam top eliminates the “balloon” feeling - Attached stuff sack, can’t lose it - Precise firmness adjustment **Cons** - Pricier than basic inflatable pillows - Slightly heavier than pure air pillows --- ### 5. [Klymit Drift](https://www.amazon.com/Klymit-Camping-Reversible-Shredded-Large-Green/dp/B081ZZVH3M?tag=momcampnew-20) **Best for:** People who don’t want to deal with an air valve at all #### Features - **Fill:** Shredded memory foam - **Dimensions:** 23 x 16 x 6.5 inches (Large) - **Weight:** 28 oz (Large), 19 oz (Regular) - **Cover:** Reversible, water-resistant one side / jersey cotton the other **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/Klymit-Camping-Reversible-Shredded-Large-Green/dp/B081ZZVH3M?tag=momcampnew-20)** #### Review Shredded memory foam moves and molds around your head instead of holding one fixed shape, which is closer to how a real pillow behaves than either the compressible foam or inflatable options above. There’s no valve to inflate or deflate, no firmness dial, you just squish it into whatever shape works and go to sleep. The reversible cover is a genuinely practical touch: water-resistant side out while it’s getting tossed around in transit, then flip it to the soft jersey side once you’re ready to sleep. It’s bulkier than the inflatable picks, so this one’s for car camping, not a backpack. **Pros** - No valve or inflation needed - Moldable, familiar feel - Reversible cover for transit vs. sleep **Cons** - Bulkiest option here - Not suited for backpacking --- ## How to Choose a Camping Pillow ### Inflatable vs. Foam vs. Hybrid Inflatable pillows win on weight and packed size, some pack down smaller than a deck of cards, but they can feel bouncy or crinkly, and it’s a real feeling, not just marketing copy from competitors trying to sell foam. Foam pillows feel the most like your bed pillow at home and are more forgiving if you toss and turn, but they’re bulkier and slower to pack. Hybrid pillows split the difference: air support with a foam layer on top, so you get some of the packability without the full crinkly-balloon feeling. ### Match It to the Trip, Not Just What Looks Comfiest For car camping, weight really doesn’t matter, so just buy whatever’s most comfortable, which is almost always going to be a foam or hybrid pillow. For backpacking, weight and packed size matter more than anything else, and an inflatable pillow under 3 ounces is worth the adjustment period. ### Check If the Cover Is Washable Camping pillows get dirty fast, dirt, sunscreen, campfire smoke, whatever your kids touched right before touching the pillow. A removable, machine-washable cover is worth prioritizing over almost any other feature if you’re using this pillow more than once or twice a season. ## Camping Pillow FAQ ### Is an inflatable or foam camping pillow better? It depends on the trip. Inflatable pillows are better for backpacking since they’re dramatically lighter and smaller packed, while foam pillows are more comfortable and familiar-feeling for car camping where weight doesn’t matter. ### Can I just use a regular pillow for camping? You can, but it’ll take up a lot more space than a compressible camping pillow, and a regular pillow isn’t built to handle dirt, moisture, or getting shoved in and out of a car repeatedly. For car camping where space isn’t tight, it’s not a bad option, just not an ideal one. ### How do I clean a camping pillow? Most camping pillows have a removable, machine-washable cover, check the specific product before washing the whole pillow. Inflatable pillows should generally just be wiped down rather than machine washed, since the air bladder isn’t designed to get fully submerged. ### What size camping pillow do I need? For most adults, a regular or large size gives enough surface area to actually support your head and neck through the night. Smaller/travel sizes work fine for kids or for anyone prioritizing pack weight over plushness. ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear, Camping Safety --- ### [Dutch Oven Camping Recipes That Actually Work (2026)](https://momgoescamping.com/dutch-oven-camping-recipes-that-actually-work-2026/) **Published:** September 9, 2026 **Author:** Diane **Content:** The first time I tried dutch oven cooking at camp, I put way too many coals on top, burned the bottom of a peach cobbler, and served my family something that tasted like a campfire had personally attacked dessert. I almost gave up on the whole idea right there. I’m glad I didn’t, because once I actually learned the technique instead of guessing, dutch oven cooking became the thing my kids request by name before every trip. This isn’t a list of recipes with no context. The recipes matter, but the technique matters more, and once you understand it, you can improvise almost anything. Here’s what I actually know now, the hard way. ## Why Dutch Oven Cooking Is Worth the Learning Curve A dutch oven does something a camp stove can’t: it bakes. Bread, cobbler, casseroles, cinnamon rolls, all of it needs even heat surrounding the food, not just heat from underneath. Cast iron holds and distributes that heat far better than any pot on a burner, which is why the same recipes that come out flat on a stove come out right in a dutch oven. It’s also just a better centerpiece for a camp dinner. There’s something about everyone gathering around one pot instead of individual foil packets that makes a trip feel like an actual meal instead of just refueling. ## The Gear You Actually Need A regular kitchen dutch oven works fine on a camp stove, but a real camp dutch oven is built differently, and once you’ve used one, you’ll understand why. It has legs so it sits properly over coals instead of crushing them, and a flanged lid with a raised lip so you can pile coals on top without them sliding off. - **A 12-inch camp dutch oven with legs.** This size feeds a family of four comfortably with leftovers. [This is the one I use](https://www.amazon.com/Lodge-L12DCO3-Deep-Dutch-Quart/dp/B00008GKDW?tag=momcampnew-20), and it’s been through more camping seasons than I can count. - **A lid lifter.** Not optional. You cannot safely move a lid covered in hot coals with regular tongs, and I learned that the wrong way early on. [This T-bar lifter](https://www.amazon.com/Lodge-Lifter-Lifting-Carrying-Ovens/dp/B0000TPDJE?tag=momcampnew-20) also doubles as a way to move the whole oven off the fire. - **Aluminum foil liners.** This is the trick that actually got me to use my dutch oven more often. Line it before cooking, and cleanup is folding up the foil instead of scrubbing baked-on food out of cast iron in the dark. [These fit a 12-inch oven](https://www.amazon.com/Lodge-12-Inch-Aluminum-Liners-12-Pack/dp/B093PY1T53?tag=momcampnew-20) exactly. - **A chimney starter or reliable way to get charcoal fully lit** before it goes anywhere near your food. **Become a camping pro with printable Camping Cheat Sheets.** [Download here](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets), everything from packing lists to campsite setup, ready to print before you go. ## The Actual Technique: Briquette Math This is the part I wish someone had explained to me clearly the first time, instead of me burning a cobbler to figure it out myself. ### Step 1: Figure Out Total Coals Take your oven’s diameter in inches and double it. A 12-inch oven needs about 24 briquettes to hit roughly 350°F, which is the right temperature for most dutch oven recipes. A 10-inch oven needs about 20. Every 2 briquettes you add or remove shifts the temperature by roughly 25 degrees. ### Step 2: Split Them Based on What You’re Cooking - **Baking** (bread, cobbler, cinnamon rolls): 3/4 of the coals on top, 1/4 underneath. Too much heat from below burns the bottom before the inside cooks, which is exactly what happened to my first cobbler. - **Roasting** (chicken, pot roast): split evenly, half on top and half underneath. - **Stewing or simmering** (chili, soups): mostly underneath, about 1/4 on top and 3/4 below. - **Frying**: all the coals go underneath, none on top. ### Step 3: Let the Coals Actually Light First Charcoal needs about 10 to 15 minutes in a chimney starter before it’s actually ready, coated in gray ash with no black spots left. Coals that haven’t fully lit put out less heat and burn unevenly, which is a fast way to get a dish that’s raw in the middle and scorched on one side. ### A Simpler Way to Check Temperature If you don’t want to count briquettes every time, hold your hand just above the coals and count how many seconds you can keep it there before it’s too hot. Roughly every second corresponds to about 50 degrees, counting down from 550. It’s not precise, but it’s fast, and after a few trips you’ll get a feel for it without thinking about it at all. ## Dutch Oven Breakfast ### Camp Breakfast Casserole This is the recipe my kids specifically ask for the night before every trip. Everything can be pre-chopped at home, which matters a lot when you’re trying to feed hungry kids before the sun’s fully up. - 1 lb breakfast sausage, browned at home and cooled - 6 large eggs, whisked - 1 bag frozen shredded hash browns, thawed - 2 cups shredded cheddar - 1/2 cup diced onion and bell pepper, pre-chopped at home - Salt and pepper Line the oven with a foil liner. Layer hash browns on the bottom, then sausage, then peppers and onion, then pour the eggs over everything and top with cheese. Cover and cook with 20 coals total (roasting split, half on top and half below) for about 30 to 35 minutes, until the eggs are set in the middle. ## Dutch Oven Bread ### No-Knead Campfire Bread This recipe is almost impossible to mess up, which is exactly why it’s the one I’d recommend for a first attempt at dutch oven baking. Mix the dough the night before you leave, and it does the actual work itself while you’re driving to the campsite. - 3 cups all-purpose flour - 1 1/2 tsp salt - 1/2 tsp instant yeast - 1 1/2 cups warm water Mix everything into a shaggy, sticky dough at home, cover, and let it sit at room temperature for 12 to 18 hours (overnight works perfectly for a morning departure). At camp, turn the dough out onto a floured surface, shape it into a rough ball, and drop it into a foil-lined, well-floured dutch oven. Bake with 24 coals total, using the baking split (3/4 on top, 1/4 below), for about 45 minutes, until the crust is deep golden brown and sounds hollow when tapped. ## Dutch Oven Dinners ### Campfire Chili This is the dinner I make when the forecast looks cold, and it’s the one that gets people wandering over from other campsites asking what smells so good. - 2 lbs ground beef - 1 onion, diced (can be pre-chopped at home) - 2 cans kidney beans, drained - 2 cans diced tomatoes - 1 can tomato sauce - 2 tbsp chili powder, 1 tsp cumin, salt to taste Brown the beef and onion directly in the dutch oven over a full spread of hot coals underneath. Drain the excess fat, then add everything else and stir. Cover and simmer using the stewing split (mostly heat from below, a few coals on top) for about 45 minutes, stirring occasionally so nothing sticks to the bottom. ### Dutch Oven Chicken and Rice This is a genuine one-pot meal, and it’s the recipe I reach for on a trip where I don’t want to think too hard after a long hiking day. - 4 boneless chicken thighs - 1 1/2 cups long-grain rice - 3 cups chicken broth - 1 cup frozen mixed vegetables - 1 tsp garlic powder, 1 tsp paprika, salt and pepper Sear the chicken in the dutch oven over hot coals underneath until browned on both sides, then remove and set aside. Add the rice, broth, and seasoning to the pot, stir, then nestle the chicken back on top with the frozen vegetables. Cover and cook using the roasting split (half on top, half below) for about 30 minutes, until the rice has absorbed the liquid and the chicken is fully cooked. ## Dutch Oven Desserts ### Peach Cobbler (the one I finally got right) This is the exact recipe that burned on me the first time, back when I was putting way too much heat underneath. Done right, it’s the dessert that ends every good camping trip. - 2 cans sliced peaches in syrup (do not drain) - 1 box yellow cake mix - 1/2 cup (1 stick) butter, sliced into thin pats - 1 tsp cinnamon Pour the peaches and their syrup into a foil-lined dutch oven. Sprinkle the dry cake mix evenly over the top, don’t stir it in. Dot the butter pats evenly across the surface and sprinkle with cinnamon. Cover and bake using the baking split (3/4 coals on top, 1/4 below) for 35 to 45 minutes, until the top is golden and bubbling at the edges. Resist opening the lid to check more than once, every peek lets heat escape and adds cooking time. ### Camp Cinnamon Rolls The easiest thing on this whole list, and somehow always the biggest hit. Take a can of refrigerated cinnamon rolls (the kind with icing included), arrange them in a foil-lined dutch oven so they’re touching but not crowded, and bake using the baking split for about 20 minutes, until golden. Drizzle the icing on top once they’re out. This works just as well for breakfast as it does for dessert, and nobody at camp has ever complained either way. ## Cleanup Without Ruining the Seasoning If you used a foil liner, cleanup is just lifting it out and folding it up, genuinely no scrubbing required. If you cooked directly in the cast iron, let it cool slightly, scrape out food residue, and rinse with hot water only, no soap, which strips the seasoning. Dry it completely over low heat, then rub a thin layer of oil into the surface while it’s still warm before packing it away. ## Dutch Oven Camping FAQ ### How many briquettes do I need for a 12-inch dutch oven? About 24 briquettes total gets you to roughly 350°F, which works for most recipes. How you split them between top and bottom depends on the cooking method: baking uses mostly top heat, stewing uses mostly bottom heat, and roasting splits evenly. ### Can I use a regular kitchen dutch oven for camping? Yes, on a camp stove. But a kitchen dutch oven doesn’t have legs or a flanged lid, so it isn’t built to sit over hot coals or hold coals on top of the lid. If you want to cook directly over a campfire, a real camp dutch oven with legs is worth the investment. ### Why did my dutch oven food burn on the bottom? Too much heat came from underneath relative to the top. This is the exact mistake I made on my first cobbler. For baking recipes specifically, most of your coals (roughly 3/4) should go on top of the lid, not underneath the oven. ### Do I need charcoal, or can I use a regular campfire? Charcoal briquettes are far easier to control since they burn at a predictable, even rate. Wood embers from a campfire work too, but they’re inconsistent in size and heat, which makes it much harder to manage temperature, especially for baking recipes that need steady heat over 30 to 45 minutes. ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety --- ### [How to Remove a Tick Head Stuck in Your Skin](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-remove-a-tick-head-stuck-in-your-skin/) **Published:** September 19, 2026 **Author:** Diane **Content:** To [properly remove a tick that has bitten you](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-remove-tick/), it is really important that you grasp it by the head and pull straight out with a steady motion.  Otherwise, you risk the tick head getting left in your skin. Even when you *do* follow proper tick removal methods, the head can still sometimes get stuck in your skin.  This is what happened to me after a recent camping trip.  The little bugger had bit deep into the soft tissue in my armpit. When my husband went to pull him out, the tick head broke off and was left in my skin. Here’s how I got the tick head out of my skin (as well as what *didn’t* work to remove it). \*Pointy tweezers work best for removing ticks.  I’ve even started carrying a mini pair of tweezers in my wallet so I can remove ticks immediately.  **Read about [tick removal tools](https://momgoescamping.com/tick-removal-tools-humans/) here.** --- **Don’t head into the wilderness unprepared!** **Grab your copy of my** **Printable Camping Cheat Sheets: An Illustrated Manual** [![camping cheat sheets](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/interior-pages-1024x356.jpg "interior pages - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets) [**Click here to access this indispensable resource**](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets) --- ## How Do You Know the Tick Head Is Stuck or Out? Tick heads are tiny.  If the tick head is left in your skin, you will see a little black dot. You might also have some inflammation around the tick head.  In my case, I was surprised how irritated my skin got.  A stuck tick head can also cause a lot of itching (though it’s also [normal for tick bites to itch — here’s why](https://momgoescamping.com/tick-bite-itches/)) The photos below show tick heads stuck in the skin (the first photo is the one stuck in me). See how tiny the little black dots are. ![tick head stuck in skin](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/tick-head-stuck-in-skin.jpg "tick head stuck in skin - Mom Goes Camping") ## How to Remove a Tick Head Stuck in Your Skin ### Method 1: Removing Tick Head Like a Splinter On many websites, they recommend removing a tick head like you would a splinter: Using a clean needle to poke/dig it out. **This will probably not work.** I’m very good at getting splinters out, yet I couldn’t dig the tick head out of my skin. Trust me, I really dug in there! Later, when the tick head finally came out, I looked at it under a microscope (yes, I’m that nerdy) and realized why. The part of a tick that goes into your skin is called the *hypostome*. It has sharp barbs on it.  These barbs grab on to your skin and won’t slide out like a splinter. You can see the barbs on the picture below. It’s magnified to 450x. ![tick head under microscope 450x](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/tick-head-under-microscope-450x.jpg "tick head under microscope 450x - Mom Goes Camping") **If you still want to try this method, only try it a few times! If it doesn’t come out right away, give up.** I’m sure some people might have luck with this method, but you’ll really have to dig a trench into your skin. I turned my tick bite site into chop suey and still it didn’t come out.  All I really did was  set myself up for a potential secondary infection. So, seriously, **if the head doesn’t come out right away, give up before you make a nasty wound in your skin!** ### Method 2: Cut the Tick Head Out Because of those nasty barbs on the tick’s mouth, you probably won’t be able to just slide it out like a splinter.  Instead, **you’ll have to remove all of the skin that the tick’s mouth is embedded into**.  Yes, that means cutting a chunk of your skin out. **I don’t recommend this method.** You could get an infection. The area might get inflamed and irritated.  And it hurts to cut your skin. If you do want to cut the tick head out, then use some very sharp, pointy, CLEAN scissors.  The video below shows how it is done. He’s using pliers in the video.  I’d recommend using nail cuticle scissors instead as they are pointier and probably sharper than anything in your tool box. ### Method 3: Using an Extractor Pump [![insect venom extractor tool](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/insect-venom-extractor-tool.jpg "insect venom extractor tool - Mom Goes Camping")](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01576DWQU/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B01576DWQU&linkId=b7ebc33d35464965271739fbe907b17a) Extrator tools are made to suck venom out of bites.  They theoretically can reduce the likelihood of Lyme disease if used on tick bite sites *after* the tick has been removed: the idea is that they suck the tick’s salivia out of the wound so you don’t get Lyme’s or other disases (but it’s debatable whether this is true). These types of extractor tools might also be able to suck out a tick head which got stuck in your skin.  This is a big *might* though.  So, **this method also is not recommended.** You’d have to suction up a good chunk of skin for it to work (there will be blood!).  I haven’t tried this myself.  If you want to try it,  the [Bug Bite Thing tool](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01576DWQU/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=mgc-tick-stuck-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B01576DWQU&linkId=b33393edf8a73867121ccfce61888614) is by far the most popular extractor tool. ### Method 4: Wait I am not a patient person.  Nor did I like the idea of having a tick head stuck in my body (gross!).  But the smartest way to remove an embedded tick head stuck in your skin is to simply wait. Your skin will eventually push the tick head out. #### It is NOT dangerous to leave an embedded tick head in your skin. As the NY health department says [here](https://www.health.ny.gov/publications/2825/), > “The mouthparts alone cannot transmit Lyme disease, because the infectious body of the tick is no longer attached. The mouthparts can be left alone.” In some cases, leaving the tick head in your skin can result in an infection or irritation.  However, this is not common. Thus, **major health agencies say to leave the tick head alone and let the area heal on its own**. (Sources: [1](https://dphhs.mt.gov/publichealth/cdepi/diseases/ticks), [2](https://magazine.medlineplus.gov/article/how-to-remove-a-tick), [3](https://www.seattlechildrens.org/conditions/a-z/tick-bite/), [4](https://dchealth.dc.gov/page/tickborne-diseases)) Since I’m so impatient, I tore off the scab a few times hoping that the tick head would come out with the scab.  It didn’t.  So don’t be impatient like me and try this. #### How long will it take for the tick head to come out of your skin? It will probably take around 2 weeks for the tick head to come out of your skin.  After this long, the skin will push it far enough towards the surface that you may be able to easily remove the head with tweezers.  I scratched at the head and it popped out. However, it could take longer or shorter depending on where the tick bit you (my bite was in the armpit, so the tick was able to get really deep into the skin) and how quickly your skin heals. ![looking at tick head under microscope-min](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/looking-at-tick-head-under-microscope-min-e1716324445616.jpg "looking at tick head under microscope-min - Mom Goes Camping")*Of course the first thing I did after getting the tick head out was to use my daughters microscope and look at it God Im a nerd 🙂*![tick head size](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/tick-head-on-microscope-min.jpg "tick head on microscope-min - Mom Goes Camping")*In this image you can see just how tiny the tick head is compared to the tip of a pin* ## Next Steps ### 1. Keep the Bite Area Clean Whether you dig/cut the tick head out or (smartly) wait for it to come out on its own, you will need to keep the area clean. Treat the bite area as you would any small wound: Clean it thoroughly with soap and water, then apply an antibiotic wound ointment like Bacitracin.  ***You have ointment in your first aid kit, right?***  If not, [get it here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DFNBKEI/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=mgc-tick-stuck-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B01DFNBKEI&linkId=3ba8ef2481d5988bdcb9d58ec6af1383).  Or [get a stocked first aid kit here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CYBXLA4/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=mgc-tick-stuck-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00CYBXLA4&linkId=a11ce81bd190f9df4b257646cd654760) (the one in the link has antibiotic ointment and other vital first aid supplies). **Also read: [Lightweight Hiking First Aid Kit Checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-first-aid-kit-checklist/)** ### 2. Monitor the Site There’s no need to panic if you got bit by a tick. Not all ticks carry Lyme disease. And, if the tick was removed within 24 hours of biting you, then it wasn’t embedded long enough to transfer Lyme disease (which is why it is so important to check for ticks after going outdoors). If you are really concerned about Lyme disease — such as you have a compromised immune system or a small child is in question — then you might take the tick body to be tested. Otherwise, just pay attention to the wound site and how you feel.  If you have any of these [symptoms](https://momgoescamping.com/first-symptoms-lyme-disease/), go to your doctor immediately: - A rash around the bite site which gets larger (it isn’t always shaped like a bull’s eye – [see picture’s here](https://momgoescamping.com/lyme-disease-rash-photos/)) - Rashes on other places on your body - Feeling very tired - Achy, stiff joints - Flu-like symptoms - Night sweats or sleep disturbances \*Not everyone with Lyme disease gets a rash.  Further, Lyme isn’t the only disease that ticks can give humans.  So, if you have any symptoms that seem out of the ordinary, see your doctor! **Want tons of useful information in PRINTABLE format? Get my Camping Cheat Sheets** [![camping cheat sheets](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/interior-pages-1024x356.jpg "interior pages - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/interior-pages.jpg) There are 42 pages of info about how to remove a tick properly, wilderness first aid, campfire cooking, and more. I’ll even give you a discount since having a tick head stuck in you is no fun 🙂 **[Get it here for 50% off](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets/tick)** --- ###### Image credits: “[Tick Bite](https://www.flickr.com/photos/kitpfish/1910223778/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [KitAy](https://www.flickr.com/people/kitpfish/) “[Deer Tick Bite 2](https://www.flickr.com/photos/chrismek/2939981184/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [chrismek](https://www.flickr.com/people/chrismek/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety **Tags:** ticks --- ### [Easy DIY ikea chuck box](https://momgoescamping.com/easy-diy-ikea-chuck-box/) **Published:** May 8, 2025 **Author:** Diane **Content:** DIY IKEA Chuck Box for Camping That Actually Works **H1:** Easy DIY IKEA Chuck Box for Camping --- Ever spent half your camping trip digging through bags looking for the can opener? A chuck box solves that problem — it’s a portable camp kitchen that holds your plates, utensils, stove gear, and pantry items all in one organized box that loads straight into the car. The good news: you don’t need woodworking skills or a workshop to build one. The IKEA TROFAST storage unit is a camping hack that’s been circulating for years, and for good reason — it’s cheap, it’s the right size, and the plastic tubs do most of the organizing work for you. Here’s how to build one that actually works. --- **What You’ll Need** - IKEA TROFAST frame (around $35-50 depending on size) - 3-4 TROFAST tubs in a mix of small and medium sizes - One piece of plywood or MDF cut to fit the open face of the frame (your local hardware store will cut it for you) - Piano hinge (one long continuous hinge, not door hinges — this distributes weight evenly) - Two lengths of chain or rope, about 12 inches each - 4 small eye screws - Magnetic catches or a latch to keep the door closed in transit - Sturdy handles (optional but helpful) Total cost including the TROFAST: around $60-80 depending on what you have on hand. --- **How to Build It** **Step 1: Flip the frame upside down.** The TROFAST has plastic feet on the bottom — turn the whole unit over so those feet are now on top. This puts the open tub side facing outward, which is what you want for access. **Step 2: Cut your plywood panel** to fit the open face of the frame exactly. This becomes your fold-down door and work surface. Your hardware store can cut it to size if you bring the frame dimensions. **Step 3: Attach the piano hinge** along the bottom edge of the frame’s open face, then attach the plywood panel to it. The panel should swing downward and out, opening flat like a table. **Step 4: Add the rope or chain supports.** Screw two eye screws into each side of the frame near the top, and two into the sides of the plywood panel. Connect them with chain or rope so the door stops horizontal when open — this is your prep surface. **Step 5: Add magnetic catches or a latch** at the top of the panel so it stays closed during the drive to the campsite. **Step 6: Add handles** to the sides of the frame for carrying. **Step 7: Fill the tubs.** One for plates and bowls, one for utensils, one for pantry staples (spices, oil, condiments), one for cooking tools. Label them with chalkboard stickers if you want to get fancy about it. --- **Why It Works for Camping Families** - **Everything stays in one place** — load the chuck box into the car and you’re done with the kitchen. - **The tubs do the organizing** — no more loose items rattling around or falling over in transit. - **Kids can help** — labeled tubs mean everyone knows where things go at cleanup time. - **It’s genuinely affordable** — far cheaper than a pre-made camp kitchen, and more compact too. --- **A Few Tips** - Line the inside of the tubs with non-slip matting so gear doesn’t slide around on bumpy roads. - Seal the plywood door with outdoor varnish if you want it to handle rain. - Add adhesive hooks to the inside of the door for hanging utensils. - The TROFAST is heavy — if portability matters, limit what you put in it and carry it with two people. --- **Ready to Build Your Own?** **Heading out soon?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup print them before you go. **[Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** --- ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Food --- ### [Best Kids Sleeping Bag for Camping and Backpacking (As Chosen By an Outdoorsy Mom)](https://momgoescamping.com/best-kids-sleeping-bag/) **Published:** June 12, 2025 **Author:** Diane **Content:** If you want to take your kids camping or backpacking, you’ll need a good sleeping bag for them.  Unfortunately, most kids sleeping bags are made for sleepovers and not camping.  They simply won’t cut it when it comes to keeping your kids warm and comfortable, especially at high elevations where the temperatures can drop rapidly. Luckily, there are a few brands which do make kids camping sleeping bags – and even some which are lightweight enough to be used for backpacking with kids.  As an outdoorsy mom with two daughters, here are my picks for the best kids sleeping bags, plus what you need to know to pick the right sleeping bag for your style of family camping. **Got a *really* little kid? See my picks for the best:** - **[Toddler sleeping bags](https://momgoescamping.com/best-toddler-sleeping-bags-camping/)** - **[Baby sleeping bags](https://momgoescamping.com/best-baby-sleeping-bags-camping/)** ## Quick Picks: - **Best for Backpacking:** **[Morrison Mighty Mo ](https://morrisonoutdoors.com/collections/mighty-mo-kids-sleeping-bags/?aff=3)**– It’s lightweight enough for backpacking, warm enough for mountain weather and has sleeves so your kids won’t put their arms out of the bag. If your kids are a bit bigger, then the [Big Agnes Wolverine](https://amzn.to/3G3QDuV) is the better choice. - **Runner Up :** [**Big Agnes Duster**](https://amzn.to/3HEhxfJ) – It’s adjustable from 4’5” to 5’6″ , has a sleeve pad so your kid doesn’t roll off the pad at night and will keep your kid warm down to 15F. - **Best for Car Camping:** [**REI Kindercone**](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F235979%2Frei-co-op-kindercone-25-sleeping-bag-kids) – This bag is also adjustable and has a lot of serious features.  At 51oz, it’s a bit bulky though so is only good for car camping. - **Best Budget Pick: [Kelty Mistral 20](https://amzn.to/3fYxwb4)** – This affordable sleeping bag is actually warm enough for 3-season use. Yes, it’s heavy and bulky – but not nearly as much as the Coleman Youth mummy bag   which costs about the same. ## Table Comparison \[table id=70 /\] ## Kids Sleeping Bag Reviews ### 1. Big Agnes Duster **Best for:** A great camping sleeping bag which will grow with your kid [![big agnes duster kids sleeping bag adjustable](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/big-agnes-duster-kids-sleeping-bag-adjustable.jpg "big agnes duster kids sleeping bag adjustable - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/big-agnes-duster-kids-sleeping-bag-adjustable.jpg) #### **Features:** - **Limit comfort:** 15F - **Max user height:** 66” - **Shoulder width:** 31” - **Bag weight:** 46oz - **Fill:** Synthetic - **Stuff size:** 10×11” - **Other features:** Adjustable length and width, fitted hood, draft collar, zipper baffle, pad sleeve - **Available At:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3G3QDuV) #### **Review:** The Duster kids sleeping bag by Big Agnes is designed to grow with your kids.  Not only is the length adjustable, but you can adjust the width too.  This makes it the only adjustable kids sleeping bag which will still keep them warm because it removes the empty space.  It will fit kids starting at 4’ 5” and up to 5’ 6”. Big Agnes makes serious camping and backpacking gear, and the Duster sleeping bag is no exception.  There are pro features like a draft collar and baffle on the zipper to trap heat better.  The coolest feature of their kids sleeping bags though is that they have a pad sleeve: the pad fits inside a sleeve integrated into the bottom of the sleeping bag.  This means your kid can’t roll off the pad at night. Note that there is no insulation on the bottom part of the sleeping bag.  This is because it’s designed to be used with a pad (insulation underneath sleeping bags gets squished, so doesn’t provide much warmth anyway). But it might be annoying if you want to use the sleeping bag without a pad (not sure why you wouldn’t be using a pad) or with a different pad. Also note that Amazon incorrectly states that this sleeping bag is synthetic/down.  It is 100% synthetic. #### **Pros:** - **Adjustable length to fit 53” to 66”** - **Width also adjustable** - **Pad sleeve** - **Good for cold temps** - **Lightweight and compact** - **Affordable** #### **Cons:** - **No insulation underneath** - **Must be used with 20” wide pad** - **A bit bulky** --- ### 2. Big Agnes Little Red **Best for:** Camping or backpacking with very little kids [![big agnes little red kids sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/big-agnes-little-red-kids-sleeping-bag.jpg "big agnes little red kids sleeping bag - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/big-agnes-little-red-kids-sleeping-bag.jpg) #### **Features:** - **Limit comfort:** 15F - **Max user height:** 53” - **Shoulder width:** 24” - **Bag weight:** 28oz - **Fill:** Synthetic - **Stuff size:** 7.5×9” - **Other features:** Fitted hood, draft collar, zipper baffle, pad sleeve - **Available At:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3G3QDuV) #### **Review:** The Big Agnes Little Red is the *only* serious sleeping bag for really little kids.  It will fit kids up to 4’5” but is really best for 3 to 5 year olds.   It has all the pro features of the Duster sleeping bag – including the pad sleeve, so I won’t go through those features here. Do note that the Little Red sleeping bag is *not* adjustable in length or width. Yes, your kid will outgrow it fairly quickly, but it does mean that the sleeping bag is really lightweight and compact.  It’s even light enough to take backpacking, especially considering that you’ll be carrying all your kids’ gear (and maybe your kid too! :)). #### **Pros:** - **Pad sleeve** - **Good for cold temps** - **Lightweight and compact** - **Affordable** #### **Cons:** - **No insulation underneath** - **Must be used with 20×48 pad** --- ### 3. Big Agnes Wolverine **Best for:** Backpacking with kids 5 and up [![big agnes wolverine kids sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/big-agnes-wolverine-kids-sleeping-bag.jpg "big agnes wolverine kids sleeping bag - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/big-agnes-wolverine-kids-sleeping-bag.jpg) **Features:** - **Limit comfort:** 15F - **Max user height:** 60” - **Shoulder width:** 26” - **Bag weight:** 38oz - **Fill:** Synthetic - **Stuff size:** 8×10” - **Other features:** Fitted hood, draft collar, zipper baffle, pad sleeve - **Available At:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3FA7SX1) #### **Review:** The Wolverine is the mid-sized kids sleeping bag by Big Agnes.  It has the same features as the Duster, but it is *not* adjustable. If you only do car camping, I’d recommend getting the Duster version since you’ll get more use out of it.  However, if you do any backpacking, the Wolverine may be the better choice because is only 38oz vs. 51oz with the Duster. #### **Pros:** - **Pad sleeve** - **Good for cold temps** - **Lightweight and compact** - **Affordable** #### **Cons:** - **No insulation underneath** - **Must be used with 20” wide pad** --- ### 4. Morrison Mighty Mo 20F or 40F **Best for:** Backpacking with little kids 4 to 6 years old ![morrison mighty mo kids sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/morrison-mighty-mo-kids-sleeping-bag.jpg "morrison mighty mo kids sleeping bag - Mom Goes Camping") #### **Features:** - **Limit Comfort:** 20F or 40F - **Max user height:** 54” - **Bag weight:** 16.4oz or 25oz - **Fill:** Down or synthetic - **Stuff size:** 5.5″ x 14″ - **Other features:** fold-back hand cuffs, draft collar, zipper baffle, two-way zipper - **Available at:** [Morrison.com](https://morrisonoutdoors.com/collections/mighty-mo-kids-sleeping-bags/?aff=3) (get 10% through this link). #### **Review:** I used the Morrison Little Mo sleeping bag for my daughter when she was a baby ([read my review here](https://momgoescamping.com/morrison-baby-sleeping-bag/)).  Now that she’s grown up a bit, she uses the Mighty Mo sleeping bag. Full disclosure that the company sent me the bag for free to test out. There are two versions of the bag: 20F (down) and 40F (synthetic. The main thing to love about Morrison kids sleeping bags is that they are lightweight.  Even the 40F synthetic version only weighs 25oz.  The down version is really lightweight at 16.4oz.  This makes it one of the only sleeping bags for little kids that is suitable for backpacking. Despite being so lightweight, the sleeping bag is still really warm.   Because there are sleeves, your kid won’t keep popping their arms out like with a  normal sleeping bag – thus losing warmth in the process. There are also lots of cool features like a two-way zipper so you can adjust ventilation.  The hands have cuffs which you can fold over or open up. #### **Pros:** - **Lightweight and compact** - **Dries quickly** - **Sleeves** - **Fold-over cuffs on sleeves** #### **Cons:** - **Down version is expensive** - **Limited colors**                                                             **Heading out soon?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup — print them before you go. **[                                                               Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** --- ### 5. Kelty Mistral 20 **Best for:** Very affordable sleeping bag for car camping [![kelty mistral 20 kids sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/kelty-mistral-20-kids-sleeping-bag.jpg "kelty mistral 20 kids sleeping bag - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/kelty-mistral-20-kids-sleeping-bag.jpg) #### **Features:** - **Limit comfort:** 20F - **Max user height:** 60” - **Shoulder width:** 28” - **Bag weight:** 42.4oz - **Fill:** Synthetic - **Stuff size:** 10×17” - **Other features:** Fitted hood - **Availabe At:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3fYxwb4), [Campsaver ](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=358fd954-c6b8-44a1-9ca9-aaad445d2dfb&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.campsaver.com%2Fs%2Fkelty-mistral-kids) #### **Review:** The Kelty Mistral kids sleeping bag is a very basic budget sleeping bag.  As you’d expect at this price, it doesn’t have a draft collar or zipper baffle. The zipper is also a really cheap one and will snag if your kid isn’t careful.   But, compared to other cheap sleeping bags for kids, this one is actually suitable for cold weather. It definitely won’t be warm at 20 degrees, but should be comfortable in the low 40s (the high 30s is really pushing it!).  Note that the shoulder width on this bag is quite wide.  If your child is tiny, the bag will be way too big – and your kid will end up cold.  Tie off the end and bring a blanket to fill the empty space in case it gets very cold at night. Note that Kelty also makes a 30 degree version of the Mistral youth bag.  It’s about $5 cheaper and only 1oz lighter.  Unless you really need to save those 5 dollars, I can’t see a reason to get the 30 degree version.  It’s better to have a bag which will work in colder temps! #### **Pros:** - **Very affordable** #### **Cons:** - **Wide size allows heat to escape** - **No draft collar or zipper baffle** - **Heavy and bulky for its temperature rating** --- ### 6. REI Kindercone **Best for:** An adjustable-length sleeping bag for car camping [![rei kindercone kids sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/rei-kindercone-kids-sleeping-bag.jpg "rei kindercone kids sleeping bag - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/rei-kindercone-kids-sleeping-bag.jpg) #### **Features:** - **Limit comfort:** 25F - **Max user height:** 60” - **Shoulder width:** 25” - **Bag weight:** 51oz - **Fill:** Synthetic - **Stuff size:** 12×16” - **Other features:** Adjustable length, fitted hood, zipper baffle - **Buy At:** [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F235979%2Frei-co-op-kindercone-25-sleeping-bag-kids) #### **Review:** This is one of the most popular kids sleeping bags, though that’s mostly because REI is such a well-known brand.  It also doesn’t hurt that the Kindercone is affordable. I love that the sleeping bag is actually warm. There is no draft collar but there is a zipper baffle to help trap heat. The shoulder circumference is just 50” (most kids bags are at least 54”).  This narrower width is important for trapping heat.  If your kid is layered well at night, they will be comfortable into the 30s (don’t expect them to be warm down to 25F though!). The stuff sack is attached to the bottom of the sleeping bag.  To make the bag shorter, you pull the sack over the bottom of the sleeping bag and cinch it up.  This will shorten the bag by approximately 16”.   I still wouldn’t recommend this sleeping bag for kids under 5 years old though since it will be too big. Don’t think you can take this sleeping bag backpacking though.  It is MASSIVE and heavy at 51oz.  You may want to get some compression straps to put around the stuff sack to make it smaller. #### **Pros:** - Affordable - Adjustable length - Actually warm #### **Cons:** - Heavy - Very bulky - Cheap zippers --- ### 7. Marmot Trestles Elite Eco 30 Youth **Best for:** Serious camping or backpacking [![marmot trestles kids eco elite kids sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/marmot-trestles-kids-eco-elite-kids-sleeping-bag.jpg "marmot trestles kids eco elite kids sleeping bag - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/marmot-trestles-kids-eco-elite-kids-sleeping-bag.jpg) **Features:** - **Limit comfort:** 30F - **Max user height:** 60” - **Shoulder width:** 26” - **Bag weight:** 38oz - **Fill:** Synthetic - **Stuff size:** 7×17” - **Other features:** Fitted hood, draft collar, zipper baffle - **Buy At:** [Campsaver](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=358fd954-c6b8-44a1-9ca9-aaad445d2dfb&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.campsaver.com%2Fs%2Fmarmot-trestles-kids) #### **Review:** Marmot is a very reputable brand of backpacking gear.  Their sleeping bags have pro-level features. The Trestles Elite Eco 30 kids bag is just a small version of the adult bag.  It is made out of a really good synthetic material which has a high loft. It has a wave construction on the top and a blanket construction on the foot area. When zipped completely up, the draft collar does its job perfectly. When unzipped, you can get some ventilation to adjust the temperature. They don’t specifically say the EN/ISO temperature rating of the kids version of the bag.  However, the adult version of the bag has a lower limit of 28F and a tested comfort level of 37.6F. The bag is really lightweight. It is fairly huge in the stuff sack.  But the stuff sack has compression straps.  When compressed, the bag is actually pretty compact so it’s suitable for backpacking with kids. #### **Pros:** - **Compression straps on stuff sack** - **Lightweight** - **Pro features** - **Top zips down on both sides** - **Narrow to help trap heat** #### **Cons:** - **Pricier option** --- ### 8. North Face Eco Youth **Best for:** The front zipper feature [![north face eco youth sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/north-face-eco-youth-sleeping-bag.jpg "north face eco youth sleeping bag - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/north-face-eco-youth-sleeping-bag.jpg) **Features:** - **Limit comfort:** 20F - **Max user height:** 60” - **Shoulder width:** 26.5” - **Bag weight:** 48oz - **Fill:** Synthetic - **Stuff size:** 9×16” - **Other features:** Fitted hood, draft collar, zipper baffle, front zipper - **Available at:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3G8UhU9) #### **Review:** Compared to the Wasatch, the North Face Eco Youth is a much better bag.  It actually has a draft collar and zipper baffle, so traps heat better.  It still won’t be warm at 20F, but should be good into the low 40s or even the high 30s.   It is much heavier and bulkier though, so don’t expect to take this backpacking. The only stand-out feature of this kids sleeping bag is the front zipper.  My kids often fall asleep outside in front of the fire.  I then have to carry them into the tent and get them into their sleeping bags without waking them up.  The front zipper would make this a lot easier.  Since the zipper is two-way, you can also use it for venting: just unzip the foot area a bit if it gets too hot at night. #### **Pros:** - **Front zipper for easy in/out** - **Two-way zipper allows for venting** - **Fairly warm bag** #### **Cons:** - **Pricier option** - **Only one color/boring design** - **Heavy and bulky** --- ### 9. Coleman Youth Mummy **Best for:** Entry-level kids sleeping bag for car camping [![coleman youth mummy 30 degree sleeping bag for kids](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/coleman-youth-mummy-30-degree-sleeping-bag-for-kids.jpg "coleman youth mummy 30 degree sleeping bag for kids - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/coleman-youth-mummy-30-degree-sleeping-bag-for-kids.jpg) #### **Features:** - **Limit comfort:** 30F - **Max user height:** 60” - **Shoulder width:** 26” - **Bag weight:** 48oz - **Fill:** Synthetic - **Stuff size:** 12×16” - **Other features:** Fitted hood - **Available At:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3GcvHSr) #### **Review:** Coleman makes a lot of affordable camping gear.  Compared to other brands at the same price point, their gear is a decent quality.  This mummy sleeping bag for kids is no exception.  It will keep kids warm down to the high 40s (or low 40s if you really bundle them up inside).  But, as expected from budget gear, there isn’t much in terms of features.  At least the zippers are a decent quality and don’t snag (much) or break on you. Just be warned that the sleeping bag is really HUGE in its stuff sack.  It is hard to get back in the stuff sack too. It is definitely only for car camping – and hopefully you’ve got lots of room in your car for bulky gear.  I’d rather get the Kelty Mistral 20 degree kids sleeping bag. It costs almost the exact same but is much less bulky and even a bit warmer. #### **Pros:** - **Affordable** - **Decent zipper** #### **Cons:** - **Heavy and bulky** - **Lacks features** --- ## Choosing a Kids Sleeping Bag for Camping ### Can Kids Use an Adult Sleeping Bag? If a sleeping bag is too big, it won’t be able to trap body heat well, will take longer to warm up and also let in drafts. Because of this, kids should NOT use adult sleeping bags.  However, you can tie off the bottom of an adult sleeping bag to make it fit a child better.  Since the adult sleeping bag will still probably be too wide, you’ll want to fill the empty space with a blanket.  There’s still no guarantee that drafts won’t get inside though. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/kid-sleeping-in-adult-sleeping-bag.jpg "kid sleeping in adult sleeping bag - Mom Goes Camping")This may be okay in warm weather but in cold temps an adult sleeping bag will not keep a little kid warm ### Should You Get an Adjustable-Length Kids Sleeping Bag? Some kids sleeping bags have an adjustable-length feature.  This is great because it will allow you to get more use out of the sleeping bag.  However, there are some downsides to this feature: - **Extra weight and bulk:** An adjustable length sleeping bag is going to be heavier and bulkier than a bag which fits your child perfectly. This isn’t an issue for car camping but is if you want to go backpacking or need to hike into camp. - **Sides usually aren’t adjustable:** Usually just the length is adjustable. This means the sleeping bag will still be too wide for your child, so it won’t be as warm. The **Big Agnes Duster** bag is the only option which allows you to adjust the width as well as the length. - **Can DIY:** IMO, there’s no reason to pay extra for an adjustable length sleeping bag when you can just tie some rope around the bottom of a slightly-longer kids bag. \*I would pay extra for the adjustable width feature on the Duster though, since there’s no smart way to do this yourself. ### Temperature Ratings on Kids Sleeping Bags Good sleeping bags use the EN/ISO system to determine their temperature rating.  When choosing a sleeping bag, you want to look at the “Comfort Rating” and make sure it matches the nighttime temperatures of where you will be camping. Unfortunately, most kids sleeping bags only list the “Lower Limit” rating.  For example, they might write, “Warm down to 40 degrees F.”  This does *not* mean your child will be warm at 40 degrees!   The comfort rating is usually 10-15 degrees F higher than the lower limit.  So, if you are camping at 40F, you’d need a bag with a lower limit rating of 25F or lower. **Tip:** When choosing between two youth sleeping bags for car camping, always get the warmer one.  Your child can always unzip it if they get too warm. #### You’ll Also Need a Sleeping Pad The *pad* is just as important as the sleeping bag for keeping your kid warm when camping.  In summer temperatures, you can get away with a cheap foam sleeping pad with an R-value (insulation value) of 1.  In colder temps, you’ll want an R-value of 3.  I use the [Therm-a-Rest Scout self-inflating pad](https://amzn.to/3A9Qq5D) for my daughter.  It comes in a small size. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/kids-rolling-off-sleeping-pad-when-camping.jpg "kids rolling off sleeping pad when camping - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/kids-rolling-off-sleeping-pad-when-camping.jpg)**A sleeping pad is only warm if your kid stays on it Read [how to keep your child from rolling off their pad at night](https://momgoescamping.com/kids-rolling-off-sleeping-pads-camping/)** ### Down or Synthetic for Kids Sleeping Bag? Compared to synthetic, down sleeping bags are much warmer and more compact.  However, **I generally do *not* recommend a down sleeping bag for kids.**  If down gets wet, it takes FOREVER to dry.  It also doesn’t insulate when wet. If your child were to have an accident at night in a down bag, you’d be completely screwed.  By contrast, my daughter had a few accidents in her synthetic sleeping bag on a camping trip.  I shoved her in my sleeping bag for the rest of the night (we are both petite), washed the bag in a stream, and it dried by bedtime. Keep in mind that kids are more likely to have bathroom accidents when camping (the change in schedule, not wanting to walk to the camp bathroom, rolling off their pad and getting cold…).  They could also do something like spill water all over the sleeping bag.  Because of this, synthetic is generally the way to go. ### Do NOT Get a Cotton Sleeping Bag Whatever you do, avoid cotton sleeping bags when camping.  Like down, cotton takes a very long time to dry.  If your child ends up hot in the sleeping bag, for example, the sweat will make the sleeping bag get wet from the inside out.  They would then end up freezing cold due to evaporative heat loss. Cotton also gets dirty very easily, which would be a nightmare if your kid wants to snuggle in the sleeping bag next to the fire. ### Colors and Design I wish this didn’t matter so much, but my girls both want cute sleeping bags with fun colors and designs. If you can’t decide between two sleeping bags for your kids, I suggest you let them choose.  They will be happier if they feel like they had a part in the decision. 🙂 ## Kids Sleeping Bag FAQ: #### What temperature sleeping bag does a child need for camping? Always buy a bag rated 10–15°F colder than the lowest temperature you expect at night. This is because most kids sleeping bags only list the “lower limit” rating the temperature at which an adult male won’t die, not the temperature at which your child will sleep comfortably. A child camping in 40°F nights needs a bag rated to 25°F or lower. When in doubt, go warmer your child can always unzip the bag if they get too hot. #### How long will a kids sleeping bag last before they outgrow it? A non-adjustable kids sleeping bag typically lasts 2–3 years before a child outgrows it in length. An adjustable bag like the Big Agnes Duster can last 4–5 years since it adjusts in both length and width. The bag’s lifespan in terms of insulation is much longer  synthetic fill in a well-cared-for bag should last 10+ years before it loses meaningful loft. Wash the bag only when necessary (spot clean when possible) and store it loosely rather than compressed in a stuff sack to preserve the fill. --- Image credit: “[rachel puts sequoia to bed in a tent and](https://www.flickr.com/photos/seandreilinger/3760325763/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [sean dreilinger](https://www.flickr.com/people/seandreilinger/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear, Camping with Kids **Tags:** sleeping bags --- ### [Why I Hitchhike with My 5 Year Old Daughter](https://momgoescamping.com/why-i-hitchhike-with-my-5-year-old-daughter/) **Published:** October 24, 2025 **Author:** Diane **Content:** After having my daughter, I didn’t travel much during the first year. Then, when she was two, I set off on a solo backpacking trip to Romania and Ukraine. Before I had Isabel, I hitchhiked everywhere. When planning this trip, I found myself thinking: “I’m an adult now. I can afford to pay for buses and trains. I probably shouldn’t be hitchhiking.” I soon threw that mentality to the wind. Becoming a parent doesn’t mean you have to stop doing the things you love! What I couldn’t have anticipated then was that soon my daughter would be going hitchhiking with me too! ![Isabel drawing pictures while waiting for a car to go by on a very remote backroad in Bulgaria](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/IMG_4059-1024x683.jpg) *Isabel drawing pictures while waiting for a car to go by on a very remote backroad in Bulgaria* ## Why I Hitchhike… If you’ve never hitchhiked before, then you probably don’t realize what an awe-inspiring, eye-opening experience it is. It gives you an opportunity to meet people you’d never meet otherwise. You often end up traveling village to village, so you see a lot of places you would have just passed by if you’d taken the bus. You learn skills like patience while waiting for a car to stop for you (though usually I never have to wait more than 15 minutes, except when I’m in such an off-the-beaten-path place that there aren’t even any cars going by!) What a lot of people don’t realize about hitchhiking is that it is NOT just a free form of transportation. Sure, not paying for transportation is definitely a big perk of hitchhiking, and many people wouldn’t be able to afford travel if they didn’t hitchhike. Oh, I guess I should add that I don’t know how to drive. I have a weird premonition that I will die by auto accident, but only if I am driving! That, and cars are bad for the environment and conducive to laziness! ## Hitchhiking is Not “Free” It took me a while to realize this, but I am actually paying for every single ride I get. I just don’t pay for it with money. When truckers pick me up on the side of the road, I help them kill the boredom of their long trip. When local villagers pick me up, I am giving them a chance to practice their English and meet a foreigner. With whoever picks me up, I always do my best to be damn entertaining and tell good stories. I can even do it in sign language. Admittedly, hitchhiking can be exhausting. It takes a lot of energy to communicate to people with just the 5 words of the local language you know and made-up signs. But, most of the time, it is really fun. And no one seems to mind if I pass out asleep in the passenger seat on a long ride. ![I hitchhiked a ride from this nice guy in Ukraine with a truck full of watermelon. We stopped to eat one on the way.](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/hitchhiking-with-watermelon-driver.jpg) *I hitchhiked a ride from this nice guy in Ukraine with a truck full of watermelon. We stopped to eat one on the way.* ## People Want to Help Others Being entertaining is one way that I “pay” for the rides I get. But the main way I pay for rides is by giving people an opportunity to help someone. After hitchhiking for a while, you start to realize how STARVED people are for human connection. Most of us humans are really good people and are eager to help others – if only given an opportunity. Few people will go out looking for opportunities to help someone (like volunteering with refugees or passing out food to the hungry). But it isn’t that hard to stop your car and give someone a lift in the direction you are already going. A lot of the drivers are even nice enough to drive me a few kilometers out of their way to take me to my destination or leave me at a good spot. And the drivers are almost always smiling and in better spirits when they drop me off than when they’d picked me up. It feels good to help strangers! ![hitchhiking pictures](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/IMG_4061-1024x683.jpg) ## My Hitchhiking Experience: 15+ Years Across Three Continents I’ve been hitchhiking since I was 19 years old, traveling through dozens of countries across Europe, the Balkans, and beyond. Over these years, I’ve gotten rides from everyone imaginable – truck drivers hauling watermelons, elderly couples heading to church, young families on road trips, and solo travelers like myself. The vast majority of my hitchhiking experiences have been positive. I’ve shared meals with families, been invited to weddings, stayed at people’s homes, and formed friendships that have lasted years. Through hundreds of rides across countries like Romania, Ukraine, Serbia, Albania, Bulgaria, and Montenegro, I’ve learned that the kindness of strangers is far more common than the dangers we’re warned about. ## Yes, Hitchhiking Can Be Dangerous… As I said at the beginning, I questioned whether I should continue hitchhiking after I became a mom. Hitchhiking (like everything else) does have its dangers – especially as a woman hitchhiking alone. Unfortunately, hitchhiking in this world is more dangerous for women. Especially a woman alone. While we may not have to wait long for rides, we do have to put up with assholes asking us for sex. In Georgia (the country) last year, I had to scream at several drivers who started to pull off the road. I quickly put them in place! Luckily, nothing worse than this has happened. You might think these experiences would put me off from hitchhiking. But… ### As a Feminist, I Refuse to Give In As a feminist, I think it is even more important that I continue hitchhiking. I’m more worried about the society which makes hitchhiking more dangerous for women than the actual dangers. For example: When men say that they hitchhike somewhere, they might get asked about how long the wait was, or how the trip was. When I say that I hitchhike, the response is usually, “Aren’t you scared?” By telling women that they shouldn’t do something because it is “more dangerous” for them, we are giving into the terrible system in place. THAT is the real danger – when women don’t do something because society has labeled it as dangerous for them. Warning women about the dangers of hitchhiking is the same as telling them not to wear short skirts, go to bars, or walk home alone at night. Why is the message always for women to be careful? We need more messages telling men to stop with the rape and violence! Being the hardheaded and stubborn woman I am, I refuse to give in to this message. No, I won’t let men have all the fun eye-opening travel experiences! And I definitely don’t want my daughter to get a message that she shouldn’t do something just because she is a girl. ![Isabel hitching a ride in Serbia. A village dog decided to wait with us. :)](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/autostop-576x1024.jpg) *Isabel hitching a ride in Serbia. A village dog decided to wait with us. 🙂* ## But Why Risk Hitchhiking with a Child? At first, I had no intention of hitchhiking with Isabel. I figured I’d be a “responsible” parent and take buses and trains. You know, the “safe” option. But travel plans change. The first time I went hitchhiking with her, we were going [camping in Albania](https://momgoescamping.com/best-camping-spots-balkans/), and public transportation is really terrible there. I’d spent hours (upon hours!) researching how to get from the train station in Montenegro to our camping spot. It was all going well until our 5 euro taxi got to the border between the two countries. The line at the border was HOURS long. Why the hell should we wait in the sweltering hot taxi when we could just get out of the taxi and walk across the border? I paid the taxi. We got out. Our passports were stamped within 5 minutes instead of 1-2 hours. The first vehicle going through the border was an RV. Of course it stopped for us (everyone stops for a cute little kid). It was two young Germans traveling around with their dog. It happened that they too were looking for a camp spot. So, they not only drove us to our campground, but stayed there too! Isabel loved playing with their dog named Lucky. At that moment, I re-realized that the benefits of hitchhiking far outweigh the “risks” – and I’m not just talking about the benefits of not having to deal with crappy public transportation or even the feminist life lesson. ![The very first ride Isabel hitchhiked -- a young German couple in an RV with their dog Lucky.](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/P1110612-1024x768.jpg) *The very first ride Isabel hitchhiked — a young German couple in an RV with their dog Lucky.* ![Camping with Isabel](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/P1110778-1024x576.jpg) ## I Want My Daughter to Learn to Trust People In the United States where I grew up, kindergarteners learn “Stranger Danger.” As I write about in my article on [why Stranger Danger is a crock of sh\*t](https://momgoescamping.com/stranger-danger/), this approach teaches children to fear the world rather than navigate it wisely. Stranger Danger teaches you to never talk to strangers. Be wary of anyone offering you candy. And definitely never get into a stranger’s car! Oops! We’ve definitely violated all of those rules! Even the candy one, because when you [travel with a kid](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-with-baby/), everyone wants to give her sweets (at least in the Balkans). I don’t just break these Stranger Danger rules while hitchhiking. I’m also on the website Couchsurfing (since 2004) and on BeWelcome now too. Last summer, I hosted 30+ refugees from Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan in my home. ![Isabel playing with one of the Afghan refugees who stayed at our home.](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/isabel-and-refugee.jpg) *Isabel playing with one of the Afghan refugees who stayed at our home.* ## Practical Safety Measures I Take When Hitchhiking with My Daughter While I believe in trusting people, I’m not reckless. Here are the practical safety measures I follow when hitchhiking with Isabel: **Trust your gut instinct.** If something feels off about a driver or situation, I politely decline the ride. No explanation needed – I just say we’re waiting for someone specific. **Stay visible.** I always hitchhike in well-lit, populated areas where other people can see us getting into vehicles. **Share our location.** Before getting into a car, I send a photo of the license plate and a description of the vehicle to a trusted friend or family member. **Keep essentials accessible.** My phone stays charged and within reach, and I always have our important documents and some emergency cash on me. **Choose drivers strategically.** Families with children, elderly couples, and women traveling alone have always been the safest bets in my experience. **Stay engaged and alert.** I remain conversational and aware throughout the ride, never drinking anything offered or eating food that could be tampered with. **Have an exit strategy.** If a driver makes me uncomfortable, I ask to be let out at the next town or gas station, citing a sudden change in plans. ## What My Daughter Has Learned from Hitchhiking So, while it is good to be cautious, it is more important to be open to people. When you are open to people and new experiences, you learn that differences like skin color, language, and religion don’t matter at all. You learn that people are generally good at heart. And you’ll learn a lot about yourself. I know my daughter isn’t perfect. She’s hardheaded, competitive, and doesn’t like to listen to rules (hmmm… where did she get that from? 😉 ). But I can also see the lessons she’s learned from our Couchsurfing and hitchhiking experiences. She eagerly shares her toys, isn’t scared of new experiences, knows that girls can do everything boys can (and vice versa) and definitely doesn’t give a hoot what color your skin is. Oh, and while other kids play with toy trucks, my daughter has actually ridden in trucks. How cool is that! ## Questions Parents Ask Me About Hitchhiking with Kids **Q: At what age did you start hitchhiking with your daughter?** A: Isabel was about 2.5 years old on her first hitchhiking experience. The right age depends on your child’s temperament and your comfort level. Some parents might wait until their kids are older and can better understand safety rules. **Q: How do you keep a young child entertained while waiting for rides?** A: We bring coloring books, small toys, and snacks. Isabel often draws pictures or we play simple games. The wait itself becomes part of the adventure – watching different cars go by, guessing which one might stop, talking about where we’re going. **Q: What if your daughter gets scared during a ride?** A: We’ve established a code word she can use if she feels uncomfortable. If she says it, we exit at the next safe opportunity. Fortunately, we haven’t needed to use it yet. **Q: Don’t you worry about your daughter’s safety?** A: Of course I do – I’m her mother! But I also worry about raising her in a bubble of fear. The statistical reality is that most dangers children face come from people they know, not strangers. Plus, she’s learning to read situations, trust her instincts, and navigate the world confidently – skills that will serve her far better than fear. **Q: Would you recommend hitchhiking for all families?** A: No, and that’s okay! Every family has different comfort levels and travel styles. Some parents might prefer [traditional hiking and camping with kids](https://momgoescamping.com/gear-hiking-with-kids/) or [backpacking adventures](https://momgoescamping.com/best-budget-ultralight-backpacks/) using public transportation. What matters is finding travel experiences that align with your values and make sense for your family. ## The Real Lesson Behind Our Hitchhiking Adventures At the end of the day, hitchhiking with my daughter isn’t really about the transportation. It’s about showing her a different way to move through the world – one based on trust, human connection, and the belief that most people are fundamentally good. Every ride we take is a lesson in cultural exchange, in breaking down barriers, in seeing past differences to the humanity we all share. These lessons can’t be taught from a textbook or learned in a classroom. They come from real experiences, from shared laughter in a stranger’s car, from watching my daughter’s face light up when someone teaches her a word in their language. Will we continue hitchhiking as she gets older? I don’t know. What I do know is that the experiences we’ve had so far have shaped both of us in profound ways. And I wouldn’t trade them for the safest, most conventional parenting approach in the world. Because at the end of the day, I’d rather raise a daughter who trusts in the goodness of humanity than one who lives in fear of it. ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** hitchhhiking, travel --- ### [Top 10 Outdoor Knives for Under $70](https://momgoescamping.com/top-10-outdoor-knives-for-under-70/) **Published:** November 19, 2025 **Author:** Diane **Content:** After 15 years of camping with my daughter Isabel across multiple countries, from the rugged terrain of Scotland to the wilderness of Norway. I’ve learned that you don’t need expensive gear to have amazing outdoor adventures. But there’s one piece of equipment where quality truly matters: your outdoor knife. I’ve tested dozens of budget knives over the years, from $10 pocket knives that broke on their first batoning session to surprisingly robust sub-$70 blades that have lasted through countless camping trips. Here’s what I’ve discovered: you can get a reliable outdoor knife without spending hundreds of dollars, but you need to know what to look for. ## Why Your Outdoor Knife Matters More Than You Think During a particularly memorable [wild camping trip](https://momgoescamping.com/wild-camping/) in Bulgaria last spring, my knife became essential when we needed to process wet wood after unexpected rainfall. Here’s what I regularly use my outdoor knife for: - Creating feathersticks for [starting fires in wet conditions](https://momgoescamping.com/make-fire-rain/) (this skill has saved many camping trips!) - Batoning wood to access dry inner wood for kindling - Preparing camp meals and food prep - Crafting tent stakes when I’ve inevitably lost one - Emergency gear repairs with paracord - Creating a digging tool for proper waste disposal - General camp maintenance and utility tasks ## What Makes a Good Budget Outdoor Knife? Through extensive field testing, I’ve found that the best affordable outdoor knives share these characteristics: **Blade Material:** High-carbon steel holds an edge better and is easier to sharpen in the field, though it requires more maintenance to prevent rust. Stainless steel is lower maintenance but harder to sharpen with basic tools. **Tang Construction:** Full tang knives (where the metal extends through the entire handle) are significantly stronger for heavy-duty tasks like batoning. However, quality partial tang knives can work well for lighter camping tasks. **Blade Length:** The sweet spot for versatility is 3.5 to 5 inches. Anything shorter struggles with batoning; anything longer becomes unwieldy for detailed work. **Weight Considerations:** For [ultralight backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/ultralight-backpacking-tips/), every ounce counts. For car camping, a heavier, more robust knife might be worth the weight.                                                           **Heading out soon?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup. **[                                                            Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** ## My Top 10 Field-Tested Budget Outdoor Knives (All Under $70) I’ve personally used each of these knives in real camping situations. Here’s my honest assessment of their strengths and limitations: ### 1. KA-BAR Dozier Folding Knife – Best Ultra-Budget Option ($15-20) [![ka-bar-dozier-outdoor-knife](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/02ka-bar-dozier-outdoor-knife.jpg "ka-bar-dozier-outdoor-knife - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/02ka-bar-dozier-outdoor-knife.jpg) This was my first “real” camping knife, and it’s still in my gear box five years later. At this price point, the Dozier punches well above its weight class. **My Experience:** I’ve used this knife extensively for food prep and light camp tasks. The AUS 8A stainless steel holds a decent edge and resists corrosion well—important when you’re camping in humid conditions or near the coast. **Features:** - Folding design with reliable lockback mechanism - 3″ blade length; 7.25″ when open - AUS 8A Stainless Steel - Lightweight Zytel handle - 2.4 ounces **Best For:** Beginners, ultralight backpackers, or as a reliable backup knife **Limitations:** Not suitable for heavy-duty tasks like batoning thick wood [Check Current Price](http://amzn.to/2fzlIrC) ### 2. Condor Bushlore Knife – Best for Heavy-Duty Camp Tasks ($35-45) [![condor-bushlore-knife](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/03condor-bushlore-knife.jpg "condor-bushlore-knife - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/03condor-bushlore-knife.jpg) This knife is a workhorse. During a week-long family camping trip where we relied heavily on processing firewood, the Bushlore handled everything we threw at it. **My Experience:** The 1075 high carbon steel takes an incredibly sharp edge. I’ve batoned oak logs as thick as my wrist with this knife. Yes, it’s heavy for backpacking, but for base camp situations, it’s outstanding. **Features:** - Fixed blade with leather sheath - Full tang construction - 4 5/16″ blade length; 9 5/16″ overall - 1075 high carbon steel - Comfortable hardwood handle - 8 ounces (plus sheath) **Best For:** Car camping, bushcraft enthusiasts, processing firewood **Limitations:** Too heavy for long-distance backpacking; requires regular maintenance to prevent rust [Check Current Price](http://amzn.to/2eTyW0Y) ### 3. Ontario RAT-3 Knife – Best All-Around Fixed Blade ($40-50) [![ontario-rat-3-outdoor-knife](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/04ontario-rat-3-outdoor-knife.jpg "ontario-rat-3-outdoor-knife - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/04ontario-rat-3-outdoor-knife.jpg) After years of trying to find the perfect balance between size, weight, and capability, the RAT-3 has become my go-to recommendation for most campers. **My Experience:** This knife excels at the “Goldilocks” principle—not too big, not too small, just right. I’ve used it for everything from preparing camping meals with my daughter to crafting emergency shelter supports. **Features:** - Fixed blade design - Full tang for maximum strength - 3.75″ blade length; 7 7/8″ overall - 1095 Carbon Steel (excellent edge retention) - Textured Micarta handle for secure grip - 5.2 ounces **Best For:** General camping, hiking, bushcraft basics **Limitations:** Carbon steel requires maintenance; sheath could be better quality [Check Current Price](https://amzn.to/3V9Hwjy) ### 4. Morakniv Bushcraft Carbon – Best Value for Beginners ($35-45) [![morakniv-bushcraft-tactical-knife](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/05morakniv-bushcraft-tactical-1-1024x369-1.jpg "morakniv-bushcraft-tactical-knife - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/05morakniv-bushcraft-tactical-1-1024x369-1.jpg) Morakniv has achieved almost legendary status in the budget bushcraft community, and after three years with mine, I understand why. **My Experience:** Despite having only a partial tang, this knife has survived countless [tarp shelter](https://momgoescamping.com/tarp-shelters/) setups and wood processing sessions. The Scandinavian grind makes it incredibly easy to sharpen in the field—even on a flat river stone. **Features:** - Fixed blade with plastic sheath - Partial tang (3/4 length) - 4.3″ blade; 9.1″ overall length - High-carbon steel (59-60 HRC hardness) - Comfortable rubber handle - 6.3 ounces **Best For:** Bushcraft beginners, wood carving, general camp use **Limitations:** Partial tang limits heavy batoning; basic sheath [Check Current Price](http://amzn.to/2eTHtkj) ### 5. SOG Seal Pup Elite – Best Serrated Option ($50-60) [![sog-seal-pup-outdoor-knife](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/06sog-seal-pup-outdoor-knife.jpg "sog-seal-pup-outdoor-knife - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/06sog-seal-pup-outdoor-knife.jpg) The partially serrated blade sets this knife apart. During a coastal camping trip, the serrations proved invaluable for cutting through rope and tough materials. **My Experience:** The AUS-8 stainless steel handles saltwater exposure well. I’ve used the serrated portion to cut through everything from [emergency shelter materials](https://momgoescamping.com/emergency-shelter/) to stubborn food packaging. **Features:** - Fixed blade with nylon sheath - Full tang construction - 4.75″ blade; 9″ overall length - AUS-8 stainless steel - Glass-reinforced nylon handle - 5.4 ounces **Best For:** Marine environments, rope work, versatile cutting tasks **Limitations:** Serrations are harder to sharpen; not ideal for fine carving [Check Current Price](http://amzn.to/2fNRxxq) ### 6. Cold Steel Finn Wolf – Best Folding Design ($35-45) [![cold-steel-pro-lite-1](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/07cold-steel-pro-lite-1.jpg "cold-steel-pro-lite-1 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/07cold-steel-pro-lite-1.jpg) Sometimes you need a folding knife, and the Finn Wolf delivers fixed-blade performance in a folding package. **My Experience:** The lock is bombproof—I’ve never had it fail during use. The blade shape excels at both slicing and piercing tasks, making it versatile for foraging and food preparation. **Features:** - Folding design with Tri-Ad lock - 3.5″ blade; 8″ when open - AUS-8A stainless steel - Ergonomic Griv-Ex handle - 2.8 ounces **Best For:** Everyday carry, lightweight backpacking, backup knife **Limitations:** Not suitable for batoning; folding mechanism adds potential failure point [Check Current Price](https://amzn.to/4oPcOZm) ### 7. Spyderco Tenacious – Best for Detail Work ($45-55) [![spyderco-folding-survival-knife](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/08spyderco-delica-folding-survival-knife.jpg "spyderco-folding-survival-knife - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/08spyderco-delica-folding-survival-knife.jpg) For precision tasks and ultralight backpacking, the Tenacious offers exceptional control and cutting ability. **My Experience:** The blade geometry excels at slicing tasks. I’ve used it for everything from first aid situations to preparing kindling. The thumb hole opening is brilliant when wearing gloves. **Features:** - Folding design with liner lock - 3.39″ blade; 7.76″ open - 8Cr13MoV stainless steel - G-10 laminate handle - 4.1 ounces **Best For:** EDC, food prep, precise cutting tasks **Limitations:** Not for heavy-duty use; relatively small blade [Check Current Price](http://amzn.to/2gaK4LX) ### 8. Gerber StrongArm – Best Tactical-Style Option ($55-65) [![gerber strongarm knife](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/gerber-strongarm-knife-300x67.jpg "gerber strongarm knife - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/gerber-strongarm-knife.jpg) Don’t let the tactical appearance fool you—this is a serious outdoor tool that happens to look aggressive. **My Experience:** The diamond-texture rubber handle provides exceptional grip even when wet. The pommel works great for hammering tent stakes, and the blade shape handles both fine work and heavy tasks. **Features:** - Fixed blade with modular sheath system - Full tang construction - 4.8″ blade; 9.8″ overall - 420HC stainless steel - Diamond-texture rubber handle - 7.2 ounces **Best For:** Versatile outdoor use, emergency situations, rough conditions **Limitations:** Some may find it too tactical-looking; steel is softer than premium options [Check Current Price](https://amzn.to/4i4dlny) ### 9. ESEE Izula II – Best Compact Fixed Blade ($60-70) [![ESEE Izula II Knife](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/ESEE-Izula-II-Knife-296x300.jpg "ESEE Izula II Knife - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/ESEE-Izula-II-Knife.jpg) Small but mighty, the Izula II proves that size isn’t everything in an outdoor knife. **My Experience:** Despite its compact size, this knife handles surprisingly demanding tasks. I’ve used it extensively for leave-no-trace camping where a smaller, precise blade is advantageous. **Features:** - Fixed blade with molded sheath - Full tang with skeletal handle - 2.88″ blade; 6.75″ overall - 1095 carbon steel - Customizable handle (paracord wrap) - 3 ounces **Best For:** Minimalist camping, neck knife carry, backup blade **Limitations:** Too small for batoning; requires rust prevention [Check Current Price](https://amzn.to/3X4mz9U) ### 10. Buck 119 Special – Best Classic Design ($55-65) [![Buck Knife](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/12Buck-Knife-283x300.jpg "Buck Knife - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/12Buck-Knife.jpg) Sometimes classic is best. The Buck 119 has been a camping staple since 1963, and for good reason. **My Experience:** This was my father’s camping knife, and now it’s one of mine. The 420HC steel might not be exotic, but Buck’s heat treatment makes it perform above its specs. It’s particularly excellent for cleaning fish. **Features:** - Fixed blade with leather sheath - Full tang construction - 6″ blade; 10.5″ overall - 420HC stainless steel - Phenolic handle with brass guard - 7.5 ounces **Best For:** Hunting, fishing, traditional camping **Limitations:** Large size may be overkill for some; traditional design lacks modern features [Check Current Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000EHYZKK/) ## How to Choose the Right Budget Knife for Your Needs After testing all these knives extensively, here’s my advice for choosing the right one: ### For Ultralight Backpacking Weight is critical when you’re counting ounces. The **Spyderco Tenacious** or **KA-BAR Dozier** offer the best weight-to-utility ratio. Pair either with a small [lightweight hatchet](https://momgoescamping.com/best-camping-hatchets/) if you need wood processing capability. ### For Family Car Camping When weight isn’t a concern, the **Ontario RAT-3** or **Condor Bushlore** provide maximum versatility. These can handle everything from food prep to campfire management. ### For Bushcraft and Wilderness Skills The **Morakniv Bushcraft** offers unbeatable value for learning bushcraft skills. Its Scandinavian grind is perfect for wood carving and [creating different fire lays](https://momgoescamping.com/make-fire-woods/). ### For Wet Environments Stainless steel becomes essential near water. The **SOG Seal Pup** or **Gerber StrongArm** resist corrosion better than carbon steel options. ## Maintaining Your Budget Outdoor Knife Proper maintenance can make a $40 knife outlast a $200 knife that’s neglected. Here’s what I’ve learned: **Carbon Steel Care:** After each use, clean and dry thoroughly. Apply a thin coat of oil (I use food-grade mineral oil). In humid conditions, check and re-oil daily. The patina that develops over time actually helps protect against rust. **Stainless Steel Care:** While more corrosion-resistant, stainless still needs care. Rinse after exposure to salt water, and keep the pivot points of folding knives clean and lubricated. **Field Sharpening:** Learn to maintain your edge in the field. I carry a small [dual-grit diamond stone](https://momgoescamping.com/knife-sharpening-tips/) that weighs less than 2 ounces. Regular touch-ups are easier than major resharpening. **Storage:** Store knives clean and dry. I learned this the hard way when I left a knife in its sheath after a rainy trip—the trapped moisture caused significant rust. ## Common Mistakes to Avoid Through my own errors and observing other campers, here are pitfalls to avoid: - **Buying too big:** That 7-inch Rambo knife looks cool but is impractical for most camping tasks - **Neglecting the sheath:** A poor sheath can make even a great knife dangerous or inconvenient - **Forgetting about local laws:** Some areas have blade length restrictions—research before you travel - **Using the wrong tool:** Don’t use your knife as a pry bar or screwdriver—that’s how blades break - **Skipping maintenance:** Five minutes of care after each trip extends blade life significantly ## Safety Considerations As a mom who camps with kids, safety is paramount. Here are my non-negotiable rules: - Always cut away from your body - Maintain a “blood circle”—the area within arm’s reach when holding a knife - Never leave knives lying around camp—always sheath immediately after use - Teach [children proper knife safety](https://momgoescamping.com/best-first-knives-kids/) early and supervise closely - Keep first aid supplies accessible—accidents happen even with proper precautions ## When to Upgrade from a Budget Knife These budget knives serve most campers perfectly well. However, you might consider upgrading if: - You’re using your knife professionally or very frequently - You need specific steel properties for your environment - You’ve developed preferences through experience - You want a lifetime investment piece That said, I still regularly use my budget knives alongside more expensive options. Sometimes the “beater” knife is exactly what you need. ## Final Thoughts: Value Over Price After years of camping across different environments and conditions, I’ve learned that an expensive knife doesn’t automatically make you a better outdoorsperson. What matters is understanding your knife’s capabilities and maintaining it properly. Each knife on this list has earned its place through real-world testing. They’ve helped me create shelter in unexpected storms, prepare countless meals over campfires, and handle emergencies when far from help. More importantly, they’ve proven that quality outdoor gear doesn’t have to break the bank. My current [camping kit](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-checklist/) includes three knives from this list: the Ontario RAT-3 for general use, the Spyderco Tenacious for detail work, and the KA-BAR Dozier as a backup. Together, they cost less than many single “premium” knives, yet they handle everything I need. Remember, the best outdoor knife is the one you have with you and know how to use safely. Start with one of these budget options, learn its strengths and limitations, and let your experience guide future purchases. You might be surprised to find, as I have, that a well-chosen budget knife becomes a trusted companion for years of outdoor adventures. ## Quick Reference Comparison Chart | Knife Model | Type | Blade Length | Weight | Price Range | Best For | |---|---|---|---|---|---| | KA-BAR Dozier | Folding | 3″ | 2.4 oz | $15-20 | Budget/Backup | | Condor Bushlore | Fixed | 4.3″ | 8 oz | $35-45 | Heavy Tasks | | Ontario RAT-3 | Fixed | 3.75″ | 5.2 oz | $40-50 | All-Around | | Morakniv Bushcraft | Fixed | 4.3″ | 6.3 oz | $35-45 | Bushcraft | | SOG Seal Pup | Fixed | 4.75″ | 5.4 oz | $50-60 | Marine/Rope | | Cold Steel Finn Wolf | Folding | 3.5″ | 2.8 oz | $35-45 | EDC/Light | | Spyderco Tenacious | Folding | 3.39″ | 4.1 oz | $45-55 | Detail Work | | Gerber StrongArm | Fixed | 4.8″ | 7.2 oz | $55-65 | Tactical/Tough | | ESEE Izula II | Fixed | 2.88″ | 3 oz | $60-70 | Minimalist | | Buck 119 Special | Fixed | 6″ | 7.5 oz | $55-65 | Traditional | ## Budget Outdoor Knives FAQ: #### What’s the best cheap knife for camping? For most campers, a Morakniv is the answer, legendary edge quality for the price, easy to sharpen in the field, and tough enough for nearly all camp tasks. If you want a folding knife instead, the KA-BAR Dozier delivers remarkable quality for around $20. #### Is a fixed blade or folding knife better for camping? Fixed blades are stronger, easier to clean, and have no moving parts to fail — better for batoning, carving, and hard use. Folding knives are lighter and more packable — better for backpacking and everyday carry. Many campers carry one of each. #### What blade length do I need for a camping knife? The sweet spot is 3.5 to 5 inches. Shorter blades struggle with wood processing; longer blades get unwieldy for food prep and detail work. Big “survival” knives look impressive but are the wrong tool for most real camp tasks. #### Is carbon steel or stainless steel better for an outdoor knife? Carbon steel takes a sharper edge and is easier to sharpen in the field, but rusts without regular oiling. Stainless steel shrugs off moisture, the better pick for coastal trips and low-maintenance campers — but is harder to sharpen with basic tools. Neither is wrong; it’s a maintenance-versus-convenience tradeoff. #### Can you fly with a camping knife? Never in carry-on! Knives of any blade length will be confiscated at security. Checked luggage is fine in the US if the knife is sheathed or wrapped. If you’re traveling abroad, check local knife laws first; blade length and lock-knife restrictions vary widely, especially in Europe. ## Additional Resources Want to learn more about using your outdoor knife effectively? Check out these related guides: - [How to Sharpen Your Knife in the Field](https://momgoescamping.com/knife-sharpening-tips/) - [Fire Starting Basics: From Spark to Flame](https://momgoescamping.com/make-fire-rain/) - [Complete Camping Gear Reviews ](https://momgoescamping.com/category/gear/) *Have questions about choosing an outdoor knife? Found a great budget option I should test? Leave a comment below or reach out through my [contact page](https://momgoescamping.com/contact/). I love hearing about your outdoor experiences and gear discoveries!* ***Disclosure:** Some of the links in this article are affiliate links. If you purchase through these links, I earn a small commission at no extra cost to you. These commissions help support the site and allow me to continue testing and reviewing outdoor gear. I only recommend products I’ve personally tested and believe in. Your trust is more important than any commission.* ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [Best Snow Suits for Crawling Babies and Young Toddlers](https://momgoescamping.com/best-snow-suits-babies-toddlers/) **Published:** November 25, 2025 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I am not the type of person who handles being cooped up inside well, so it was really important that I could get outside with my daughters even in cold, winter weather. This meant having a very good baby snow suit. There surprisingly aren’t that many good snow suits for babies or toddlers.  There are even fewer options if you want to let your little one crawl around in the snow.  I’ll go over the options here, their pros and cons, as well as some advice for getting the right snow suit for your baby. ## Quick Picks: **Best Overall: [Columbia Snuggly Bunny](https://amzn.to/48zbLa0)** **Why?** It’s warm, high-quality and not bulky so your child can move around easily **Best for Very Cold Weather: [Jan & Jul Snow Suit](https://amzn.to/496tbJE) Why?** This is one of the only baby/toddler snowsuits with a temperature rating. It’s good down to -13F! **Best for Slush and Mild Winters: [Therm Kids All-Weather Onesie](http://thermkids.com/CAMPINGWITHMOM)** (Canadian store [here](https://thermkids.ca?dt_id=532516)) **Why?** It’s not the warmest snowsuit but is waterproof and even has rubberized butt and knees.  It’s not bulky so your child can move freely. **Best Budget Pick:[ iXtreme Snow Suit](https://amzn.to/45zmLjc) Why?** It absorbs water so definitely not for snow play, but the price is right and it’s warm enough for stroller rides. **Best for Playing in the Snow:**  **[Jan & Jul suit](https://amzn.to/496tbJE) OR [Columbia Lite](https://amzn.to/3PS8mZw) + [Therm Kids All-Weather Onesie](http://thermkids.com/CAMPINGWITHMOM)** **Why?** The Jan & Jul suit is warm *and* waterproof, so your little one can actually sit and kneel in the snow.  If you want something less bulky and more versatile, choose the Columbia Lite bunting with a cheap rain suit over it.  The rain suit will fit your child without layers underneath in spring. 🙂 ## Can Babies and Toddlers Actually Play in the Snow? [![baby in snow suit enjoying snow](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/baby-enjoying-snow.jpg "baby enjoying snow - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/baby-enjoying-snow.jpg) I’m a strong believer that there is no such thing as “bad weather” – just bad clothes.  Both of my girls went outside in the snow as babies and young toddlers.  They loved being pulled in a [baby sled](https://momgoescamping.com/baby-toddler-sleds/). I made sure they were bundled up in layers and regularly checked to see if they were warm and dry.  Snow play did wonders to tire them out quickly, meaning that nap time was easier. However, even with the right clothes, **babies and toddlers shouldn’t be outdoors in freezing temperatures for long periods.** Recommendations from pediatricians vary but most say that mobile babies and toddlers can be outside in the snow for just 15 to 30 minutes at a time. If the wind chill is below 0F, then you probably shouldn’t take your little ones outside at all, even in a stroller. ### Tips Keeping Babies and Toddlers Safe in the Cold: - **Bring a foam pad to sit on.** The cold ground will literally suck the heat out of your baby. Having them sit on a foam pad will help prevent this. I use my camping pads but a yoga pad will also work. - **Invest in good base layers.** Quality base layers make all the difference when it comes to staying dry and comfortable. If you are on a tight budget, use it to get quality Merino wool base layers and a cheaper snow suit.  Not sure how to layer your baby? Read this [guide to layering](https://momgoescamping.com/clothes-camping-rain-cold-mud/). - **Be able to warm up quickly.** If you are going to a park or somewhere else far from home to play, then make sure you have hand-warmer packets and warm drinks for your child. - **Take the snow inside.** If your main goal is to let your baby experience the snow, consider bringing the snow inside. You can put it in buckets and let your baby scoop it. - **Make sure your baby is enjoying it!** Some babies and toddlers love the experience of snow.  Others hate it. Don’t force the child upon  your child.  If they aren’t enjoying themselves, take them back inside. **Also read: [Best Base Layers for Babies](https://momgoescamping.com/base-layers-babies-toddlers/) and [Best Waterproof Mittens for Babies](https://momgoescamping.com/best-waterproof-stay-on-mittens-toddlers/)** [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/baby-not-enjoying-snow.jpg "baby not enjoying snow - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/baby-not-enjoying-snow.jpg)Not all babies enjoy the snow ## Best Snow Suits for Crawling Babies and Toddlers All of the snow suits and buntings here are available in baby and toddler sizes.  They are all also one-piece suits and have fold-over hands and feet. ### 1. Jan & Jul Waterproof Puffer Snow Suit [![jan jul baby toddler snow suit](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/jan-jul-baby-toddler-snow-suit.jpg "jan jul baby toddler snow suit - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/jan-jul-baby-toddler-snow-suit.jpg) Jan & Jul is a small Canadian brand which makes serious outerwear for kids.  Their baby puffer suit is designed for serious cold *and* for outdoor play. Unlike other brands where you have to guess to what temperatures the suit will keep your baby warm, Jan & Jul actually has a warmth rating: -13F (-25C).  The material is such a good quality that it’s still breathable, so your child won’t end up sweaty. The suit also has a waterproof rating of 10,000mm, which means your toddler can sit or kneel in snow without getting wet.  They can even trample through some slush without getting wet (sitting in slush for prolonged periods will let some water through though). The only real downside of this snow suit is that it’s bulky.  However, any snow suit which is this warm is going to be bulky.  So, if winters don’t get really cold where you live, choose one which isn’t so warm (like the Columbia suit below). **Specs:** - **10,000mm waterproof rating shell** - **200g/sq. meter of synthetic insulation** - **Sherpa fleece lining** - **Rated to -13°F** - **Breathability rating of 3000g/m2** - **Fold-over hands and feet** - **Asymmetrical zipper** - **[Get it here](https://amzn.to/4rkQsAy)** **Pros:** - Warmth and waterproofness actually tested - Hood actually stays on - High quality materials and design - Pricy, but good value for the cost **Cons:** - Bulky - Only two designs - Zipper can snag easily **[Get It Here](https://amzn.to/4rkQsAy)** --- ### 2. Columbia Baby Snuggly Bunny Down Snow Suit [![columbia snuggly bunny snow suit for babies and toddlers](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/columbia-bunny-snow-suit-for-babies-and-toddlers.jpg "columbia bunny snow suit for babies and toddlers - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/columbia-bunny-snow-suit-for-babies-and-toddlers.jpg) Columbia is a brand known for high-quality gear.  Yes, it is more expensive but you actually get what you pay for.  The “Snuggly Bunny” is their warmest baby/toddler snow suit.  While I haven’t tested it myself, a few moms said their toddlers were warm in the suit in 0 F weather. It has down filling, which means it can trap heat without being huge and bulky like other snow suits.  There is a water-resistant shell and a soft micro-fleece lining. Overall, it’s really flexible so your toddler can move around easily in it. Remember that down items should be fluffed before wearing.  If the down is compressed, it won’t be as warm.  Down also loses its insulation abilities if it gets wet, so I wouldn’t choose this one for slushy weather.  The synthetic suit by Columbia (below) or the Therm Kids suit is better for wet winter weather. **Specs:** - **Water resistant shell** - **450 fill power down insulation** - **Microfleece lining** - **Fold-over hands and feet** - **Asymmetrical zipper** - **[Get it here](https://amzn.to/48fEBLd)** **Pros:** - High-quality insulation means that the suit isn’t bulky - Actually warm in very cold weather - Flexible material for active little ones - Elasticized waist for better fit **Cons:** - It’s not cheap! - Hood doesn’t stay on well **[Get It Here](https://amzn.to/48fEBLd)** --- ### 3. Columbia Baby Powder Reversible Lite Bunting [![columbia reversible baby toddler snow suit](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/columbia-reversible-baby-toddler-snow-suit.jpg "columbia reversible baby toddler snow suit - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/columbia-reversible-baby-toddler-snow-suit.jpg) Here’s another high-quality baby snow suit from Columbia.  It isn’t as warm as the one above but is good in freezing temperatures.  The snow suit isn’t bulky, so your little one can move around easily and it will fit in a car seat. The Lite bunting uses Columbia’s “Thermarator” insulation, which is a type of synthetic fill which retains its insulating abilities even when wet.   This doesn’t mean you should let your baby crawl through slush though, especially since the shell is only water resistant and not waterproof.  However, it’s good for those transition months with sleeting rain. The snow suit comes in lots of cute designs and is reversible.  Annoyingly though, the tag is visible when you reverse it. **Specs:** - **Water resistant shell** - **Thermarator synthetic insulation** - **Fold-over hands and feet** - **Asymmetrical zipper** - **[Get it here](https://amzn.to/3PS8mZw)** **Pros:** - Cute designs - Insulation retains warmth even while wet - Lightweight and not bulky **Cons:** - It’s not cheap - Tag shows when reserved - Hood doesn’t stay on well **[Get It Here](https://amzn.to/3PS8mZw)** --- ### 4. Therm Kids All-Weather Onesie [![therm kids all weather onesie](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/therm-baby-rain-suits.jpg "therm baby rain suits - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/therm-baby-rain-suits.jpg) The All-Weather Onesie is actually my top pick for baby rain suits. It has a fleece lining but is not very warm. You will need a multiple layers underneath for cold temps and a puffer suit underneath for seriously cold weather. However, you may want to consider this suit because it has a 10,000mm waterproof rating *and* rubberized bottom and knees.  You can literally plop your crawling baby on the muddy or wet ground without worrying that they will get wet.  This is fabulous for slushy winters. There are tons of cute designs for the onesie and the materials are very high-quality.  I also love that Therm Kids is a small mom-owned brand which uses 100% recycled materials. **Specs:** - **10,000mm waterproof rating shell** - **Fleece lining** - **Fold-over hands and feet** - **Asymmetrical zipper** - **Get it here at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3RVKUNG) or here at [Therm Kids](http://thermkids.com/CAMPINGWITHMOM) (Canadian store [here](https://thermkids.ca?dt_id=532516))** **Pros:** - Rubberized butt and knees - Not bulky and material is flexible - 100% recycled materials - Affordable price - Cute designs - Cool small brand **Cons:** - Not very warm **Get it here at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3RVKUNG) or here at** [**Therm Kids website**](http://thermkids.com/CAMPINGWITHMOM) (Canadian store [here](http://thermkids.ca/CAMPINGWITHMOM)) **\*Use code CAMPINGWITHMOM at checkout to get 10% off your entire order!\*** --- ### 5. Snonook Baby and Toddler Snow Suit![](https://ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&language=en_US&l=li3&o=1&a=B09FN5D5D1) ![Snonook Baby Powder Light Waterproof Snowsuit](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41hlMvcYiVL._SL500_.jpg) This baby and toddler bunting suit by Snonook is a good choice for toddlers who are starting to walk.  That’s because it isn’t very thick or bulky.  The leg area has an extra gusseted panel which allows for easier movement. Because it isn’t too thick, the snowsuit also isn’t the warmest. It should be warm down to wind chill temps of 20F.  If it is very cold or windy, you’ll want to put a rain suit over it.   The suit definitely isn’t waterproof, so not okay for snow play or slushy weather. The quality of the snowsuit is just okay.  While it’s cheaper than the Columbia and Jan & Jul baby snowsuits reviewed above, I’d expect better quality for this price.  Still, it’s a good option for moderately-cold winters when you don’t want to pay for a pricier suit. **Specs:** - **200g synthetic filling** - **Water-resistant shell** - **Fold-over hands and feet** - **Asymmetrical zipper** - [**Get it here**](https://amzn.to/46VwQbl) **Pros:** - Not bulky - Designed for movement - Material isn’t slippery **Cons:** - Not very warm - Mediocre quality [**Get It Here**](https://amzn.to/46VwQbl) --- ### 6. iXtreme Boy’s Snowsuit ![iXtreme Baby Snowsuit](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41O9L08QmqL._SL500_.jpg) The iXtreme snowsuit for babies and toddlers is really cheap.  As you’d expect from a cheap suit, the quality isn’t the best.  The material is thin and prone to tearing at the seams.  The fold-over hands are fine but the fold-over feet are too small, so basically useless. The suit isn’t remotely waterproof.  If it is slushy or sleeting rain, your baby will get wet in it.  The suit definitely isn’t for snow play!  The shell material is also very slippery – not great if you need to carry your child in it! On the plus side, the suit is surprisingly warm. If you just need a snow suit for stroller rides, this one is good enough. Note: [This snow suit for girls](https://amzn.to/45C7jTc) is basically identical to the iXtreme suit in terms of quality, warmth and price. **Specs:** - **Synthetic insulation** - **Fleece lining** - **Fold-over hands and feet** - **Asymmetrical zipper** - [**Get it here**](https://amzn.to/45zmLjc) **Pros:** - Affordable - Warm but not too bulky **Cons:** - Absorbs water - Cheaply made - Slippery material - Only boy’s designs [**Get It Here**](https://amzn.to/45zmLjc) --- ## How to Choose a Baby/Toddler Snow Suit ### Water-Resistant or Waterproof Snow Suit? [![crawling baby in snow suit in snow](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/crawling-baby-in-snow-suit-in-snow.jpg "crawling baby in snow suit in snow - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/crawling-baby-in-snow-suit-in-snow.jpg) Most baby and toddler snow suits are *water-resistant.* This means that snowflakes or water droplets will bead up on the material and roll off.  For rides in the stroller or carrier, a water-resistant suit is fine.  Even in heavy snowfalls, a water-resistant material should keep your child dry. However, **if you plan on letting your baby or toddler play in the snow, get a waterproof suit.** Waterproof is important for snow play because babies and toddlers will be sitting and possibly crawling through the snow.  Their body heat will cause the snow to melt and the water will seep through the suit.  Getting wet can be seriously dangerous in cold weather (because of something called evaporative heat loss).  If you want your baby warm, they must be dry! **Note:** Even if you don’t plan on letting your baby play in snow, a waterproof suit may be better.  For example, if they are going to daycare, you won’t have to worry about the waterproof suit being wet when you pick them up later. #### Pro Tip: For versatility, get a puffer suit AND a waterproof suit Have your child wear the puffer when in the stroller for walks.  Then put the waterproof suit over the puffer for snow play. Yes, it sucks to put an extra layer on – but this is the only way to ensure your baby stays warm while crawling around in cold weather. To make this work, you’ll have to get a waterproof suit one size too large. The great thing about this is that **you can use the same rain suit in spring**.  Your baby will have grown a bit by then, but the rains suit should still fit without all the layers underneath. **Also Read: [Best Rain Suits for Babies](https://momgoescamping.com/baby-rain-suits/) and [for Toddlers](https://momgoescamping.com/best-rain-suits-toddlers/)** ### Choose a One-Piece Suit Forget about getting a two-piece snow suit for a baby or toddlers.  A one-piece suit is better for these reasons: - Easier to put on - Trap heat better - Won’t get snow inside - Baby’s backside is still covered when you do diaper changes ### Quality Insulation = Less Bulky [![baby playing in the snow in snow suit](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/baby-playing-in-the-snow-in-snow-suit.jpg "baby playing in the snow in snow suit - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/baby-playing-in-the-snow-in-snow-suit.jpg) All my years of camping have taught me that not all types of insulation are equal.  Good-quality insulation will trap heat just as well as crappy insulation which is twice as thick. This matters because it is very hard for babies and toddlers to move when they are in a bulky suit (looking like wobbly little starfish in the snow!).  Toddlers already are unstable enough when walking, you don’t want to make it harder for them by adding 3 inches of bulk around their entire body. Also, it’s impossible to get a car seat over a bulky snow suit.  The same goes for a lot of stroller straps.  Just something to keep in mind. ### Choose a Snow Suit with Fold Over Hand Flaps I have yet to find a way to keep mittens on a baby or toddler. A better solution is to get a snow suit which has fold over hand flaps.  This lets you close the suit so your baby’s hands stay warm.  Note that the hand flaps never have any actual insulation in them.  If your child will be touching snow, then put the flaps OVER their mittens. ### Full Length Zipper is a Must Even better, choose a snow suit which has TWO zippers.  This will make it a lot easier to do diaper changes.  It is also easier to get your baby in and out of a snow suit with two zippers.  If the snow suit only has one zipper, then ideally it should be diagonal. --- ###### Resources: <https://www.romper.com/p/when-can-babies-play-in-the-snow-dont-make-snow-angels-just-yet-7821793>, <https://www.popsugar.com/family/how-long-can-kids-stay-in-snow-48170719>, <https://community.babycenter.com/post/a38103076/are_you_letting_your_babies_play_in_the_snow> ###### Image credits: “[Baby walking on a road with snow.](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nenadstojkovic/49574058298/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by shixart1985, “[IMG\_8164](https://www.flickr.com/photos/abbybatchelder/3252336596/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [abbybatchelder](https://www.flickr.com/people/abbybatchelder/), “[Snow baby](https://www.flickr.com/photos/vestfamily/3237508031/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [MabyCakes](https://www.flickr.com/people/vestfamily/), “[Can I go inside? It’s cold.](https://www.flickr.com/photos/chelseastirlen/2077902353/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [capturedbychelsea](https://www.flickr.com/people/chelseastirlen/), “[2005-12-13\_035](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nic-stage/118242331/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [Analog Weapon](https://www.flickr.com/people/nic-stage/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear, Camping with Kids --- ### [How to Plan Your First Camping Trip with Kids: A Mom's Guide](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-plan-your-first-camping-trip-with-kids-a-moms-guide/) **Published:** July 23, 2026 **Author:** Diane **Content:** ## How to Plan Your First Camping Trip with Kids: A Mom’s Guide [![Cartoon camping scene with a blue tent, trees, and a small family on a grassy field at sunset; banner reads'Your First Camping Trip with Kids'.](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/first-camping-trip-featured-1024x538.png "first-camping-trip-featured - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/first-camping-trip-featured.png)first camping trip featured The first time I took my daughters camping overnight, I spent two weeks beforehand convinced it was going to be a disaster. My youngest was eighteen months old. My oldest was four. I had no idea if they’d sleep in the tent, what would happen when the toddler inevitably melted down at bedtime, or whether I’d packed enough food, the right gear, or any of the things I was sure I was forgetting. Here’s what actually happened: the toddler screamed for forty-five minutes at bedtime. My older daughter woke up at 5:30am sure it was morning. The camp stove took three attempts to light. And by day two, both girls were filthy, sun-kissed, and asking if we could stay forever. That was eight years ago. We’ve been going back every summer since. **Planning your first camping trip with kids isn’t complicated, but it is different from planning any other kind of trip.** The things that matter most aren’t the things most packing lists focus on. This guide covers everything I wish someone had told me before that first trip: how to pick the right campsite, what to pack, how to handle sleep, what to feed everyone, and what to actually expect so you’re not blindsided by the normal stuff. --- ### Step 1: Lower Your Expectations (Seriously) Before anything else: your first camping trip with kids is a **practice run**, not a peak experience. The goal is to come home having figured out what your family needs, not to have a perfect trip. Here’s what’s completely normal on a first trip: - **Kids wake up earlier than usual.** Tents heat up fast in the morning and light comes in from all sides. 5:30-6am wake-ups are very common, especially for toddlers. - **Bedtime takes longer.** New place, new sounds, new everything. Give yourself 30-45 extra minutes and don’t fight it. - **Something gets forgotten.** It happens to everyone, every time. The packing list helps but doesn’t prevent it entirely. - **Toddlers will be overwhelming.** The lack of routine is exciting and destabilizing at the same time. They’ll hit a wall. - **The weather will surprise you.** Too hot, too cold, or unexpectedly rainy. Plan for it and it’s manageable. None of this means you’re doing it wrong. It means you’re camping. My rule after our first trip: go home having had at least one moment where you thought *this is why we do this*. One moment is enough. Everything else is just logistics. --- ### Step 2: Choose the Right Campsite for a First Trip For your first camping trip with kids, the campsite matters more than almost anything else. **This is not the time for backcountry adventure.** Start with a developed campground, one with drive-up sites, bathrooms, and running water. Here’s what to look for: #### What makes a good first campsite? **A flat, shaded site.** Shade keeps the tent cooler in the morning and afternoon. A flat site means nobody rolls off their sleeping pad at 2am. **Short walk to the bathroom.** You will make this walk at 2am with a half-asleep child. The shorter that walk, the better your night goes. **Drive-up access.** Park next to your site, unload directly. “Walk-in” sites require carrying gear from a parking lot. Skip those for now. **Loop or pull-through sites.** Easier to set up, easier to leave early if you need to. **Stay close to home.** For your first trip, within an hour or two is ideal. If something goes wrong, and something usually does, you can be home quickly without the trip feeling like a failure. #### Where to book - [recreation.gov](https://recreation.gov) – national forest and national park sites - **Your state parks website** – often better availability and cheaper - [Hipcamp](https://hipcamp.com) – private campgrounds, more amenities, easier booking #### My best research tip Before you book, search the site number plus campground name on Google Images. Other campers post real photos showing what the site actually looks like: shade, neighbor proximity, ground conditions. It’s far more useful than the official listing photos. --- ### Step 3: Figure Out the Sleep Setup First **Sleep is the single most important logistical decision you’ll make for a camping trip with kids.** Get it right and you have a fighting chance. Get it wrong and nobody’s happy by day two. #### The sleeping pad matters more than the bag Most parents obsess over sleeping bags and ignore sleeping pads. Cold comes up from the ground, not down from the air. A kid with a warm sleeping bag and no insulating pad will be cold all night. The pad insulates them from the ground and, just as importantly, keeps them on a surface instead of rolling onto the cold tent floor. For kids: look for a **kids-sized pad** (narrower than adult so they stay centered), **R-2 or higher** for summer, **R-3+** for spring or fall. #### Sleeping bags by age **Toddlers under 3:** A wearable sleeping bag with sleeves is the best option, they can’t wriggle out of it at 3am. [The Morrison Little Mo is the one I always recommend.](https://amzn.to/45igDxW) **Ages 3-7:** A kids-specific sleeping bag rated 10-15°F below the expected low temperature. Big Agnes makes excellent kids bags that include a **pad sleeve**, the pad slides inside the bag so kids can’t roll off it. That feature alone is worth the price. **Ages 8+:** A standard adult bag in a smaller size. A 20°F bag covers three-season use for most climates. #### Dressing kids for sleep Put them in dry, clean layers, not the clothes they wore all day. Base layer plus a light fleece works for most three-season camping. **Add a hat for cold nights**, kids lose a surprising amount of heat through their heads. If they wake up cold, add layers before assuming the sleeping bag isn’t warm enough. #### The rolling-off problem If your kids keep ending up on the cold tent floor, here are three fixes: get a sleeping bag with an integrated pad sleeve, put rolled-up clothes as bumpers on each side of the pad, or cover the entire tent floor with pads so there’s nowhere to roll off to. --- ### Step 4: Set Up Your Tent Before the Trip **Practice setting up your tent at home before you go.** In the backyard, in the living room, anywhere, just do it once before you arrive at the campsite. You don’t want to be reading the instruction manual in the dark with tired kids circling you. A few tent setup tips that will save you: - **Lay a tarp or footprint under the tent.** Protects the floor and keeps ground moisture out from below. Cut it slightly smaller than the tent footprint so rain doesn’t pool under it. - **Point the door away from prevailing wind.** Walk the site and feel which direction the breeze is coming from. Wind hitting the door means cold air every time someone unzips at night. - **Set up the tarp over the picnic table first.** Do this before you need it, not when it starts raining. - **Keep shoes in the vestibule.** This one habit keeps most of the dirt outside the tent. --- ### Step 5: Plan the Food (and Keep It Simple) The best camp cooking strategy is **make-ahead and foolproof**. You’ll be tired when you arrive. The kids will be hungry and overstimulated. This is not the time for ambitious meals. #### The first night rule Make night one’s dinner stupid easy: hot dogs on sticks, pre-made chili from a can, grilled cheese. You just drove for however long with kids, set up camp, and survived. Save the good meals for night two when everyone’s settled. #### Make-ahead meals that actually work - **Breakfast burritos:** Scramble eggs with cheese, sausage, and potato at home. Roll in foil. Freeze flat. They double as ice packs in the cooler and reheat directly on the camp grate. - **Marinated proteins:** Chicken or steak already marinated in a zip-lock bag. Dump straight on the grill at camp. - **Foil packet meals:** Assemble at home (potato, chicken, vegetables, butter, seasoning), cook directly on coals at camp. Zero dishes. - **Pancake mix:** Measure the dry ingredients into a jar at home. Add wet ingredients at camp. #### The emergency dinner Always pack a backup meal that requires only boiling water: instant mac and cheese, a can of soup, ramen. Something you can make in five minutes when everyone is tired and nothing went to plan. I’ve used mine more times than I can count. #### Food storage Keep all food in a hard-sided cooler or bear box when not in use, even at developed campgrounds. **Never leave food in the tent.** This includes toothpaste and sunscreen. Lock everything scented in your car overnight. --- ## Camping with Toddlers: What’s Different Toddlers deserve their own section because camping with a 1-3 year old is genuinely a different experience than camping with older kids. #### What toddlers actually need at camp Not much. A toddler at a campsite will entertain themselves with rocks, sticks, dirt, and puddles for hours. The hardest part isn’t keeping them entertained, it’s keeping them safe and managing the lack of routine. **What works well:** - A basin of water with some cups = 45 minutes of entertainment minimum - Stick and rock collecting, don’t fight it, embrace it - Watching the campfire from a safe distance, genuinely mesmerizing - Their normal food from home, familiar food at a new place reduces mealtime meltdowns **What’s hard:** - **Bedtime.** Toddlers pick up on “this is different” immediately. Start the bedtime routine earlier than usual, keep it identical to home (same books, same songs, same lovey), and expect it to take longer. - **Supervision.** Toddlers require eyes-on at all times at camp, near the fire, near water, near roads, near neighboring sites. Choose your campsite with this in mind: avoid sites directly on main campground roads, and look for natural boundaries. - **Nap timing.** If your toddler still naps, camp naps are unreliable. Build in downtime at the tent even if they don’t sleep. #### Sleep for toddlers at camp The biggest mistake I see is parents trying to get toddlers to sleep in an adult sleeping bag. It doesn’t work, they wriggle free and end up cold and awake at 2am. **Use a wearable sleeping bag with sleeves.** It’s the single gear decision that makes the biggest difference for under-3s. For true toddlers still in a crib at home, a pack-n-play inside the tent works well for the first few trips. It gives them a familiar sleep space in an unfamiliar environment. --- ## Camping with School-Age Kids: What’s Different Kids ages 4-10 are honestly the sweet spot for camping. Old enough to do things, young enough to be delighted by everything. **What works especially well:** - Give them real jobs: stakes, sleeping bags, setting up chairs. Kids who help build the camp are invested in it. - Short hikes with snacks at every landmark. The snack is the destination. - Nature scavenger hunts, a list of things to find (pine cone, smooth rock, something yellow, an animal track) is an afternoon of entertainment. - Their own headlamp. This is the single best gear decision for school-age kids, having their own light source removes so much nighttime anxiety. **What’s harder than you’d expect:** - Boredom window between activities. Build in unstructured time explicitly: set out the magnifying glass, bug jar, chalk, small shovel, and walk away. Most kids will invent something within 20 minutes. - Keeping the pace slow enough. School-age kids can do more than you think on hikes, but “more” often turns into tired and cranky by evening. Build in rest. --- ## What to Pack: The Essentials This is not a comprehensive packing list, [get the full printable checklist here](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets). But here are the things that matter most: **Sleep system (highest priority):** - Kids sleeping pad, kids-sized - Kids sleeping bag appropriate for the temperature - Toddler wearable sleeping bag if under 3 **Lighting:** - Headlamp for every family member, kids especially, it’s the single best gear upgrade for nighttime anxiety - Camp lantern **Kitchen:** - Two-burner camp stove + propane - Hard-sided cooler - Collapsible water jug **Safety:** - Kids’ sunscreen SPF 50+ - Insect repellent (picaridin is gentler on kids than DEET) - First aid kit --- ## What to Expect on Your First Night **Bedtime will take longer than usual.** Plan for it. Start the routine 30-45 minutes earlier than at home. Keep it identical to your normal routine, same books, same songs, same stuffed animal. The familiar routine in an unfamiliar place is the anchor. **Kids may wake up during the night.** New sounds, new smells, new everything. A calm headlamp-on and quiet reassurance is usually all it takes. By the second night they’ll sleep better. **Early wake-up is almost guaranteed.** Tents get light and warm fast. Have a plan: coffee ready to go, headlamps for the kids, something quiet they can do while you fully wake up. **Something will go wrong.** This is not pessimism, it’s just camping. Something gets forgotten, the stove is harder to light than expected, someone has a meltdown. These are not signs the trip is a failure. They’re the stories you’ll tell later. --- ## Your First Camping Trip Checklist Before you go, run through this: - Campsite booked with bathrooms nearby, drive-up access, flat and shaded - Tent practiced at home at least once - Sleeping pads and bags ready and rated appropriately - Night 1 dinner planned and stupid easy - Breakfast burritos made and frozen - All headlamps charged, one per person - First aid kit checked and restocked - Kids’ normal bedtime items packed (books, lovey, white noise if needed) - Food and scented items plan for overnight storage - Emergency contact and campground address saved offline --- ## Ready to Go Deeper? If you want to take the planning further, the **Your Family’s First Camping Trip** bundle includes everything in this guide plus: - A complete printable packing checklist by category - A day trip itinerary (structured timeline, toddler + school-age tips) - A 2-day first overnight itinerary - A 3-day itinerary for when you’re ready for more **[Get The Complete Bundle For 50% Off →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/1stcampingtrip)** --- ## Your First Camping Trip with Kids FAQ ### How do I prepare my toddler for their first camping trip? The most important thing is keeping their sleep setup as close to home as possible. Use their normal bedtime routine (same books, same songs, same lovey), bring a wearable sleeping bag they can’t wriggle out of, and give them a headlamp they can control themselves. Most toddlers handle the camping environment better than parents expect, they’re distracted by the novelty during the day, and the routine anchors them at night. ### What age is good for a first camping trip with kids? There’s no minimum age, I’ve camped with babies, toddlers, and every age since. Younger kids (under 2) are actually often easier than toddlers because they’re less mobile and more portable. The hardest age is often 18 months to 3 years: old enough to be everywhere, not old enough to understand rules. If that’s where your kid is, start with a one-night trip close to home and set expectations accordingly. ### What should I cook on my first camping trip with kids? Night one: hot dogs, pre-made chili, or grilled cheese. Something that requires minimal prep and has nothing to go wrong. Night two, once everyone is settled: foil packet meals, breakfast burritos reheated on the grate, or whatever sounds good. Always pack an emergency dinner (instant mac and cheese + soup) that requires only boiling water. ### Do kids need a special sleeping bag for camping? Yes. Don’t put kids in an adult sleeping bag, they’re too wide, too long, and toddlers will wriggle out of them and end up cold and awake at 3am. Get a kids-sized bag rated 10-15°F below the expected overnight low, and pair it with a kids-sized sleeping pad. The pad is actually more important than the bag, cold comes up from the ground, not down from the air. *Diane Vukovic has been camping with her daughters since they were babies. She runs momgoescamping.com, where she writes about family camping, backpacking, and outdoor gear.* ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids --- ### [Ultimate Guide to the Best Camping Lanterns of 2026: Rechargeable, Solar & LED Picks](https://momgoescamping.com/ultimate-guide-to-the-best-camping-lanterns-of-2026-rechargeable-solar-led-picks/) **Published:** August 29, 2026 **Author:** Diane **Content:** The difference between a good camping trip and a chaotic one after dark usually comes down to your lantern. I learned this the hard way on a trip where our only light was one headlamp, and my kids spent twenty minutes arguing over whose turn it was to wear it while I tried to cook dinner by phone flashlight. Since then I’ve gone through a lot of lanterns. A cheap one that died halfway through a weekend trip. A solar one that was useless on a cloudy trip in the Balkans. What I landed on is below, sorted by what each one is actually good for, not just a generic “best of” list. ## Quick Picks - **Best Overall: [Coleman Classic Recharge 800L](https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Rechargeable-Water-Resistant-Carabiner-Emergencies/dp/B09WDKMYYL?tag=momcampnew-20)** – The one I’d tell most families to just buy and stop shopping - **Best Budget Pick: [Glocusent 135 LED](https://www.amazon.com/Glocusent-Camping-Brightness-Rechargeable-Emergency/dp/B0FL22QSGP?tag=momcampnew-20)** – 1500 lumens and 200 hours of runtime for under $25 - **Best for Backpacking: [Black Diamond Moji](https://www.amazon.com/Black-Diamond-Equipment-Lantern-Octane/dp/B09NQJ5JH6?tag=momcampnew-20)** – 3oz, small enough you’ll forget it’s in your pack - **Best Solar-Powered: [MPOWERD Luci Outdoor 2.0](https://www.amazon.com/MPOWERD-1023-002-001-002-Luci-Outdoor-2-0/dp/B074NQLRTF?tag=momcampnew-20)** – Never needs batteries, collapses flat to 1 inch - **Best Runtime: [ZMNT LED Camping Lantern](https://www.amazon.com/Rechargeable-ZMNT-Flashlight-Emergency-Hurricane/dp/B08FMNXZNQ?tag=momcampnew-20)** – Up to 300 hours on a single charge **Become a camping pro with printable Camping Cheat Sheets.** [Download here](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets), everything from packing lists to campsite setup, ready to print before you go. ## Comparison Table | Lantern | Best For | Max Lumens | Runtime | Power | Weight | |---|---|---|---|---|---| | Coleman Classic Recharge 800L | Best Overall | 800 | 5-45 hrs | Rechargeable (USB-C) | ~1.2 lbs | | Glocusent 135 LED | Best Budget | 1,500 | Up to 200 hrs | Rechargeable (USB-C) | ~10.5 oz | | Black Diamond Moji | Best for Backpacking | 150 | Up to 70 hrs | 3x AAA | 3 oz | | MPOWERD Luci Outdoor 2.0 | Best Solar | 75 | Up to 24 hrs | Solar (never needs batteries) | 4.4 oz | | ZMNT LED Camping Lantern | Best Runtime | 1,000 | Up to 300 hrs | Rechargeable (USB) | ~1 lb | ## Best Camping Lanterns, Reviewed ### 1. [Coleman Classic Recharge 800L](https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Rechargeable-Water-Resistant-Carabiner-Emergencies/dp/B09WDKMYYL?tag=momcampnew-20) **Best for:** Reliable, all-around family camping lantern #### Features - **Max brightness:** 800 lumens (300 medium, 100 low) - **Runtime:** 5 hrs high, 15 hrs medium, 45 hrs low - **Battery:** 4,800mAh built-in lithium-ion, USB-C charging - **Rating:** IPX4 water-resistant, impact-resistant to 1 meter - **Extras:** Charges phones/devices while lantern is running, 3-year warranty **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Rechargeable-Water-Resistant-Carabiner-Emergencies/dp/B09WDKMYYL?tag=momcampnew-20)** #### Review Coleman made the lanterns my dad used, and this is the modern version done right. No propane canister to pack, no mantle to accidentally rip. 800 lumens is enough to light up the whole picnic table for a card game with the kids, and it dims down to a soft 100 lumens so it’s not blinding anyone when it’s just sitting in the tent overnight. The bail handle has a built-in carabiner, so it hangs off a branch or the tent ceiling without needing an extra clip. Small thing I appreciate: the base unscrews and the charging cord stores inside it, so it’s not a loose cable floating around your gear bin. On high it only lasts about 5 hours, so I run it on medium most nights and save high for when we actually need it. **Pros** - Actually bright at 800 lumens - Charges your phone too - 3-year warranty - Classic look, modern battery **Cons** - Only 5 hours runtime on high - Heavier than backpacking-style lanterns --- ### 2. [Glocusent 135 LED](https://www.amazon.com/Glocusent-Camping-Brightness-Rechargeable-Emergency/dp/B0FL22QSGP?tag=momcampnew-20) **Best for:** Getting the most lantern for your money #### Features - **Max brightness:** 1,500 lumens, 5 brightness levels - **Runtime:** Up to 200 hours on lowest setting - **Battery:** 5,000mAh, USB-C charging (3.5 hr full charge) - **Extras:** 3 color temperatures, SOS mode, 360-degree light coverage, 24-month warranty **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/Glocusent-Camping-Brightness-Rechargeable-Emergency/dp/B0FL22QSGP?tag=momcampnew-20)** #### Review I’ll be honest, I didn’t expect much from a $25 lantern. But the 135 LEDs throw light 360 degrees around the site, not just forward like a lot of cheap lanterns do, and it actually covers the space it claims to. I keep this one as our backup and it’s ended up being the one my kids grab first because the buttons are big and easy to find in the dark. The number that sold me was the runtime: 200 hours on the lowest setting. That’s basically leave-it-on-all-week territory. It’s not going to survive a downpour (only IP44 rated), so I keep it under the vestibule rather than out in the open if rain’s in the forecast, but for the price it’s hard to complain. **Pros** - Excellent price for the brightness/runtime - 360-degree light spread - SOS mode for emergencies **Cons** - Build quality is fine, not premium - Only IP44 water resistance, avoid heavy rain exposure --- ### 3. [Black Diamond Moji](https://www.amazon.com/Black-Diamond-Equipment-Lantern-Octane/dp/B09NQJ5JH6?tag=momcampnew-20) **Best for:** Backpacking trips where every ounce counts #### Features - **Max brightness:** 150 lumens - **Runtime:** Up to 70 hours - **Battery:** 3x AAA (not included) - **Rating:** IPX4 rainproof - **Weight:** Just 3 oz **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/Black-Diamond-Equipment-Lantern-Octane/dp/B09NQJ5JH6?tag=momcampnew-20)** #### Review Three ounces is nothing. I’ve carried this on trips where I was counting grams for everything else in my pack and never thought twice about tossing this in too. One button, frosted globe, done. It’s not fussy about modes or settings, which matters at 9pm when you’re exhausted and just want light without a tutorial. I like that it runs on AAAs instead of a battery pack you have to recharge. On a week-long trip, carrying two spare AAAs weighs nothing, whereas hunting for an outlet does not exist out there. It won’t light up a whole site, and it’s not trying to. This is a tent light, not a party light. **Pros** - Extremely lightweight - Runs on easy-to-carry AAA batteries - Simple, reliable single-button operation **Cons** - Not bright enough for a whole group campsite - Batteries not included --- ### 4. [MPOWERD Luci Outdoor 2.0](https://www.amazon.com/MPOWERD-1023-002-001-002-Luci-Outdoor-2-0/dp/B074NQLRTF?tag=momcampnew-20) **Best for:** Never having to think about batteries again #### Features - **Max brightness:** 75 lumens - **Runtime:** Up to 24 hours on a full charge - **Charging:** Solar (7 hrs) or USB-C (3 hrs), 1,000mAh battery - **Rating:** IP67 waterproof, fully submersible - **Weight:** 4.4 oz, collapses flat to 1 inch **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/MPOWERD-1023-002-001-002-Luci-Outdoor-2-0/dp/B074NQLRTF?tag=momcampnew-20)** #### Review I strap this to the outside of my pack in the morning and by the time we make camp, it’s charged. No outlet, no batteries to run out at the worst moment. I took it on a trip through the Balkans where I knew we wouldn’t see a plug for days, and it just quietly worked the whole time. It flattens down to about an inch, which is the kind of detail you don’t care about until you’re trying to zip your pack shut. At 75 lumens it’s soft, more of a “find your toothbrush” light than a “light the whole campsite” light, and it’s useless on a run of cloudy days since it needs real sun to charge. I still bring it every backpacking trip anyway. **Pros** - Never needs batteries or an outlet - Fully waterproof and submersible - Packs down almost flat **Cons** - Dimmest option on this list - Needs real sunlight to charge, cloudy days slow it down --- ### 5. [ZMNT LED Camping Lantern](https://www.amazon.com/Rechargeable-ZMNT-Flashlight-Emergency-Hurricane/dp/B08FMNXZNQ?tag=momcampnew-20) **Best for:** Multi-day trips or keeping one on hand for power outages at home too #### Features - **Max brightness:** 1,000 lumens - **Runtime:** Up to 300 hours on lowest setting - **Battery:** 6,700mAh, USB charging, also charges your phone - **Rating:** IPX5 water-resistant - **Extras:** 4 lighting modes including SOS, 2-year warranty **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/Rechargeable-ZMNT-Flashlight-Emergency-Hurricane/dp/B08FMNXZNQ?tag=momcampnew-20)** #### Review 300 hours on low means you could run this every night for a two-week trip and still have juice left. That’s the whole pitch, and it delivers. The 6,700mAh battery is big enough to top off a phone too, which came in handy on a trip where our next real outlet was three days out. On high it puts out 1,000 lumens, plenty to light the whole site, and the frosted globe keeps it from being harsh to look at. It’s also just sitting in our hallway closet at home now for when the power goes out, so it’s earned its keep twice over. Not a name-brand lantern, but the numbers hold up. **Pros** - Longest runtime of any pick here - Large battery doubles as a phone charger - Doubles as a home emergency light **Cons** - Bulkier than the backpacking-focused options - Lesser-known brand than Coleman or Black Diamond --- ## How to Choose a Camping Lantern ### Rechargeable vs. Solar vs. Battery-Powered For most car camping trips, I’d just get a rechargeable one. Charge it at home the night before, done. Solar is worth it once you’re going somewhere you won’t see an outlet for a few days, but don’t count on it if your trip is shaded or rainy, I’ve learned that lesson. Battery-powered lanterns running on AA or AAA are your best bet for really remote, multi-week trips since you just pack spares and never worry about a charge source at all. ### How Many Lumens Do You Actually Need? 500+ lumens if you want to actually light up a picnic table or the whole campsite. 100-300 lumens is plenty for general tent lighting, and won’t blind whoever’s trying to sleep next to it. Under 100 lumens is really just a night light, useful for finding your shoes, not for cooking dinner by. ### Runtime Matters More Than Peak Brightness The lumen number on the box is almost always the highest setting, the one that drains the battery fastest and that you’ll barely use. What actually matters is the low-setting runtime, since that’s what you’re running most nights once everyone’s asleep. A lantern that runs 200+ hours on low means you can leave it on all week without thinking about it again. ## Camping Lantern FAQ ### What’s the best camping lantern for family camping? A rechargeable LED lantern in the 500-800 lumen range is your best bet, and it’s why the Coleman Classic Recharge is my top pick above. Bright enough for group activities at the picnic table, dims down enough not to blind anyone once you’re all in the tent. ### Should I get a solar or rechargeable camping lantern? Rechargeable for car camping, solar for longer backpacking trips where you know you won’t see an outlet. Just don’t rely on solar if your trip is shaded or the forecast looks cloudy, I made that mistake once and spent a night with a nearly-dead lantern. ### How long do rechargeable camping lanterns last on a single charge? On high, most last 5-10 hours. On low, a lot of them push past 100 hours, some as high as 300. Don’t just look at the headline lumen number when you’re shopping, check the low-setting runtime too, since that’s the one that tells you how many actual nights you’ll get. ### Can I use a camping lantern for a power outage at home? Yes, and honestly it’s a smart way to justify the purchase to yourself. A rechargeable lantern with a long low-setting runtime and phone charging, like the ZMNT above, works just as well sitting in a closet for outages as it does at camp. ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [Best Camping Chairs (2026): Tested Picks for Every Type of Trip](https://momgoescamping.com/best-camping-chairs-2026-tested-picks-for-every-type-of-trip/) **Published:** September 8, 2026 **Author:** Diane **Content:** My first camping chair was a five-dollar folding chair I grabbed at a gas station on the way to a trip. It bottomed out by the second night, and I spent the rest of that trip sitting on a log wondering why everyone else looked so comfortable. That was the trip that taught me a camping chair isn’t just a camping chair. I’ve bought a lot of chairs since then, some for car camping with my daughters, some for backpacking trips where every ounce mattered, and a couple of expensive mistakes I don’t bring up anymore. What’s below is what actually earned a permanent spot in our gear closet, organized by what you’re actually using it for, not just a generic ranked list. *A note on how I picked these: every chair here is either one I’ve personally used across multiple trips, or one built by a brand whose other gear I already trust and vouch for on this site (ALPS Mountaineering and Helinox both make gear I’ve reviewed elsewhere). Specs below come straight from the manufacturers, not estimates.* ## Quick Picks - **Best Overall: [ALPS Mountaineering King Kong](https://www.amazon.com/ALPS-Mountaineering-King-Kong-Chair/dp/B077TFZ1YW?tag=momcampnew-20)**, the chair I’d tell most families to just buy - **Best Budget Pick: [Cascade Mountain Tech Low Profile](https://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Tech-Compact-Profile/dp/B01EVQ1Y6W?tag=momcampnew-20)**, under 7lbs, holds up better than the price suggests - **Best for Backpacking: [Helinox Chair Zero](https://www.amazon.com/Helinox-Chair-Ultralight-Compact-Camping/dp/B01M07GTOE?tag=momcampnew-20)**, 1.1lbs, packs smaller than a water bottle - **Best for Sharing: [Kelty Low Loveseat](https://www.amazon.com/Kelty-Loveseat-Portable-Festivals-Breathable/dp/B07MN45SB7?tag=momcampnew-20)**, room for two, plus the dog - **Best Rocker: [GCI Outdoor Freestyle Rocker](https://www.amazon.com/GCI-Outdoor-Freestyle-Portable-Folding/dp/B00D4JYR62?tag=momcampnew-20)**, actually rocks on dirt and grass, not just flat porches **Become a camping pro with printable Camping Cheat Sheets.** [Download here](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets), everything from packing lists to campsite setup, ready to print before you go. ## Comparison Table | Chair | Best For | Weight | Weight Capacity | Packed Size | |---|---|---|---|---| | ALPS Mountaineering King Kong | Best Overall | ~13 lbs | 800 lbs | Standard folding bag | | Cascade Mountain Tech Low Profile | Best Budget | ~7 lbs | 250 lbs | 26″ x 8″ | | Helinox Chair Zero | Best for Backpacking | 1.1 lbs | 265 lbs | 4″ x 4″ x 13.5″ | | Kelty Low Loveseat | Best for Sharing | ~11 lbs | Fits 2 adults | Roll tote bag | | GCI Outdoor Freestyle Rocker | Best Rocker | ~11.8 lbs | 250 lbs | Folds flat, carry handle | ## Best Camping Chairs, Reviewed ### 1. [ALPS Mountaineering King Kong](https://www.amazon.com/ALPS-Mountaineering-King-Kong-Chair/dp/B077TFZ1YW?tag=momcampnew-20) **Best for:** The one chair most families should just buy #### Features - **Weight capacity:** 800 lbs - **Seat width:** 24 inches - **Material:** 600D polyester over powder-coated steel frame - **Extras:** Cup holder on each armrest, two side pockets, mesh back storage pocket **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/ALPS-Mountaineering-King-Kong-Chair/dp/B077TFZ1YW?tag=momcampnew-20)** #### Review This is the chair that finally replaced my gas station folding chair, and it’s been in the car for every trip since. The 800lb capacity sounds excessive for one adult, but that’s the point. The frame isn’t working hard just to hold you, so it doesn’t sag or creak the way my old chairs did by the end of a season. At 24 inches wide, my older daughter can actually sit sideways with her legs over the arm, which she does on every single trip whether I like it or not. Cup holders on both arms means it doesn’t matter which hand you drink with, a small detail that somehow always seems to be wrong on cheaper chairs. It’s not the lightest option here, around 13 pounds, so this lives in the trunk, not the pack. That’s fine. It’s not trying to be a backpacking chair, and I stopped expecting it to be one. **Pros** - Extremely durable, won’t sag over time - Roomy 24″ seat - Cup holders on both arms - Good storage pockets **Cons** - Not packable enough for backpacking - Heavier than budget alternatives --- ### 2. [Cascade Mountain Tech Low Profile](https://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Tech-Compact-Profile/dp/B01EVQ1Y6W?tag=momcampnew-20) **Best for:** Buying a set of four without wincing at the total #### Features - **Weight:** Under 7 lbs - **Weight capacity:** 250 lbs - **Seat height:** 5 inches off the ground - **Packed size:** 26″ x 8″ - **Material:** Breathable mesh fabric, cushioned armrests, steel and aluminum frame **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Tech-Compact-Profile/dp/B01EVQ1Y6W?tag=momcampnew-20)** #### Review I keep four of these in the garage specifically for when friends come camping with us and need a spare chair, since I’m not precious about who sits in it or where it ends up. The low, 5-inch seat height keeps everyone close to the fire, which my kids actually prefer over a taller chair. The mesh fabric breathes well, and the cushioned armrests are a nicer touch than I expected at this price. It won’t survive being sat on by a full-grown adult every weekend for a decade the way the King Kong will. Mine have made it through two full camping seasons of regular use, including a few trips where they sat outside in the rain overnight because nobody remembered to bring them in, and they’re still holding up. **Pros** - Affordable enough to buy several - Low seat height, good for kids and fire-side sitting - Breathable mesh fabric **Cons** - Lower weight capacity than premium options - Won’t last as many years with heavy use --- ### 3. [Helinox Chair Zero](https://www.amazon.com/Helinox-Chair-Ultralight-Compact-Camping/dp/B01M07GTOE?tag=momcampnew-20) **Best for:** Backpacking trips where every ounce is negotiated #### Features - **Weight:** 1.1 lbs - **Weight capacity:** 265 lbs - **Packed size:** 4″ x 4″ x 13.5″, smaller than a bottle of water - **Material:** DAC aluminum alloy frame, ripstop polyester seat **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/Helinox-Chair-Ultralight-Compact-Camping/dp/B01M07GTOE?tag=momcampnew-20)** #### Review I’m a minimalist packer by nature, so I resisted paying this much for a camping chair for years. Then I carried one on a multi-day trip through the Balkans and stopped noticing it was in my pack at all. 1.1 pounds is nothing, and it sets up with a single bungee cord in about 20 seconds, no assembly required beyond unfolding the poles. It doesn’t feel like the King Kong, and it shouldn’t. The seat is narrower and sits low to the ground, so taller adults will feel their knees higher than they’d like. That’s the trade every ultralight product makes, and for a chair you’re actually carrying miles instead of pulling from a trunk, it’s the right one to make. **Pros** - Barely registers in pack weight - Packs down tiny - Setup in seconds **Cons** - Low, narrow seat, not great for taller adults - Expensive for what is essentially poles and fabric --- ### 4. [Kelty Low Loveseat](https://www.amazon.com/Kelty-Loveseat-Portable-Festivals-Breathable/dp/B07MN45SB7?tag=momcampnew-20) **Best for:** Sharing a seat with a kid, a partner, or the dog #### Features - **Seat height:** Low profile, close to the ground - **Fits:** 2 adults comfortably - **Extras:** 2 insulated cup holders, slight recline, breathable fabric - **Material:** Durable polyester over a steel frame **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/Kelty-Loveseat-Portable-Festivals-Breathable/dp/B07MN45SB7?tag=momcampnew-20)** #### Review I bought this expecting to use it myself and ended up sharing it with my youngest every single trip since. There’s something about the low, slightly reclined seat that makes it the spot everyone wants to squeeze into, whether that’s a kid climbing up mid-story or the dog deciding the ground isn’t good enough anymore. Two insulated cup holders means nobody has to choose between holding a drink and holding a kid. It’s bulkier to pack than a single chair, obviously, but on the trips where we bring it, it replaces two separate chairs and actually gets used more than either would alone. **Pros** - Comfortable for two - Great for a small kid who wants to be close - Two cup holders **Cons** - Bulkier to pack than a single chair - Not for backpacking --- ### 5. [GCI Outdoor Freestyle Rocker](https://www.amazon.com/GCI-Outdoor-Freestyle-Portable-Folding/dp/B00D4JYR62?tag=momcampnew-20) **Best for:** The person who claims a spot and doesn’t move for the rest of the evening #### Features - **Weight capacity:** 250 lbs - **Seat height:** 19.7 inches - **Extras:** Spring-action rocking technology, built-in beverage holder, padded armrests - **Frame:** Powder-coated steel **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/GCI-Outdoor-Freestyle-Portable-Folding/dp/B00D4JYR62?tag=momcampnew-20)** #### Review I was skeptical a folding chair could actually rock properly outdoors. Most attempts at this feel gimmicky, or just tip over the second the ground isn’t perfectly flat. The spring-action mechanism on this one works on grass, dirt, and gravel, not just a flat porch, which is the whole point for a camping chair. This has become the chair everyone in my family quietly fights over. Once someone claims it by the fire, they’re not giving it up, my husband included. The padded armrests and built-in cup holder make it an easy chair to sink into for a couple hours, which is exactly what you want after a day of hiking or setting up camp. **Pros** - Actually rocks on uneven outdoor surfaces - Very comfortable for long sitting - Padded armrests, built-in cup holder **Cons** - Bulkier than a standard folding chair - Not for backpacking --- ## How to Choose a Camping Chair ### Match It to How You’re Actually Camping For car camping, weight barely matters, so prioritize comfort and durability instead. A heavier steel-frame chair like the King Kong will outlast a lightweight one by years. For backpacking, weight is everything, and something under 2 pounds is worth the higher price tag since you’re carrying it on your back for miles, not pulling it from a trunk. ### Weight Capacity Matters More Than You’d Think A chair rated close to your actual weight will feel flimsy and wear out faster, even if it technically holds you. Look for a capacity meaningfully higher than what you need. The extra headroom is what keeps the frame from sagging or creaking after repeated use. ### Seat Height Changes How It Feels to Use Low-profile chairs (5-9 inches off the ground) sit you closer to the fire and are easier for kids to climb in and out of, but harder for anyone with knee or hip issues to get up from. Standard-height chairs (17-20 inches) are easier to get in and out of and feel more like a regular chair. ## Camping Chair FAQ ### What’s the most comfortable camping chair for long sitting? Chairs with wider seats and higher weight capacities tend to feel more comfortable over hours of sitting, since the frame isn’t straining to hold you. The ALPS Mountaineering King Kong’s 24-inch seat and 800lb capacity make it one of the most comfortable options for all-day use around camp. ### How much should I spend on a camping chair? For car camping, $30 to $60 gets you a genuinely comfortable, durable chair. Backpacking chairs cost significantly more, often over $100, because you’re paying for weight savings, not comfort. If you’re only camping occasionally, a budget chair is perfectly fine. Frequent campers usually find a mid-range chair pays for itself in durability. ### Are backpacking chairs worth it for car camping too? Usually not. Backpacking chairs sacrifice comfort and seat size for weight savings you don’t need when you’re not carrying it on your back. A standard car camping chair will almost always be more comfortable for the same or lower price if weight isn’t a real constraint. ### Can two people share one camping chair? Not comfortably in a standard single chair, but loveseat-style camping chairs like the Kelty Low Loveseat are built specifically for two adults and are a genuinely comfortable option for couples or a parent and small kid who want to sit together. *Diane Vukovic has been camping with her daughters for over a decade, testing gear on real trips from car campgrounds to backpacking routes through the Balkans. See her full bio and other gear reviews at momgoescamping.com.* ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [Mission Mountain S4 Chair Review](https://momgoescamping.com/mission-mountain-s4-chair-review/) **Published:** April 21, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Along with [their table](https://momgoescamping.com/mission-mountain-s4-table-review/), Mission Mountain recently sent me their S4 camping chair to test out.  Yes, free camping gear is nice but won’t sway my opinion.:) After testing it out, here’s my review of the chair. **Also Read: [Best Camping Chairs](https://momgoescamping.com/best-camp-chairs/)** ## Quick Verdict: The Mission Mountain S4 lounge-style camp chair is sturdy, easy to assemble and feels very durable.   The main reason to get this chair is because of the adjustable height feature, especially because you can “hack” it to change the sitting angle. It’s also lightweight and I like how it packs down.   I just wish they made a tall-back version of the chair so I could lean my head back in it. [![Moon Lence camping chair, a budget lookalike of the Mission Mountain S4 chair](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/me-in-chair-and-table-5.jpg "me in chair and table 5 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/me-in-chair-and-table-5.jpg)*Lounging in the S4 chair* ## Specs: - **Weight:** 4.4lbs - **Dimensions (WxDxH):** 21.6” x 23.6” x 29.5/31.5” - **Seat Height (At Lowest Part):** 5.1”, 12.5”, 14.5” - **[Buy Here](https://www.missionmountain.us/)** ## Assembly The Mission Mountain S4 is a *lounge* style camp chair.  Like most lounge-style chairs, it has multiple pieces which need to be assembled (as opposed to upright camp chairs which usually are just one piece). **There are six pieces in total:** - 1 x seat - 1x frame - 4x legs The frame section has four poles which are connected via cords.  You just pop them into the frame.  Assembly is stupidly easy and takes about 2 minutes. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/mission-mountain-chair-unboxing.jpg "mission mountain chair unboxing - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/mission-mountain-chair-unboxing.jpg) [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/chair-partially-set-up.jpg "chair partially set up - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/chair-partially-set-up.jpg)The S4 frame before putting on the seat fabric **Note:** Like most camping chairs, the seat fabric is very hard to put on the first time.  After that, the fabric stretches a bit and it’s easier to get on. There are pull tabs to help you get the fabric onto the poles. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/chair-pull-tabs.jpg "chair pull tabs - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/chair-pull-tabs.jpg)Pull tabs make it easy to get the fabric on the frame ## Adjustable Seat Height Mission Mountain advertises this camp chair as having two height settings: you simply push the little button on the legs to change the height.  This gives you a seat height of either 12.5” or 14.5”.  There are guidelines in the legs so getting the button in the right spot is easy. There is also an option to leave the legs off the chair completely.  This gives you low height of about 5” (great for extending your legs in front!).  The only downside of doing this is that some dirt might end up in the holes where the legs are supposed to go. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/mm-s4-chair-without-legs.jpg "mm s4 chair without legs - Mom Goes Camping")*The chair without legs Not my picture* **Hack:** I realized that you can put the back legs in the high position and the front legs in the low position. This allows you to adjust the seat position so its more upright. Since I prefer an upright chair (my kids and husband prefer loungers though), this is an awesome hack! ## Sturdiness Mission Mountain uses H-style frames on their S4 chair (as well as their table).  They call this a “unique” feature and are not lying: I cannot find a single other brand which uses H-frames for their camp furniture. Most folding camp chairs use X frames, which are not nearly as the H frame.  Some camp chairs do have square frames.  Those types of frames are sturdy, but mean you have extra pieces to assemble. The fabric on the S4 chair feels durable and there are reinforced areas where it attaches to the frame.  Surprisingly though, the weight limit is only 265lbs.  This is less than the 300lb limit you’ll find on mos camp chairs. [![](//ws-na.amazon-adsystem.com/widgets/q?_encoding=UTF8&ASIN=B09WDJF6XL&Format=_SL250_&ID=AsinImage&MarketPlace=US&ServiceVersion=20070822&WS=1&tag=momcampnew-20&language=en_US)](https://www.amazon.com/MOON-LENCE-Chairs%EF%BC%8CPortable-Backpacking-Lightweight/dp/B09WDJF6XL?keywords=moon+lence+chair&qid=1682074635&s=sporting-goods&sr=1-5&linkCode=li3&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=f943609a5beecb29e105bb08562b1e79&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_il)![](https://ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&language=en_US&l=li3&o=1&a=B09WDJF6XL)![](https://ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&language=en_US&l=li3&o=1&a=B09WH213N3) The [Moon Lence chair](https://amzn.to/3Ag3INJ) (shown above) looks similar to the Mission Mountain chair but has a square frame.  A square frame is also sturdy but has more parts to put together. ## Comfort In terms of comfort, the Mission Mountain S4 chair is on par with other lounge-style chairs I’ve tested out.   The adjustable height does give it a slight advantage though: both short and tall people will be able to nicely extend their legs. My husband is a larger guy and he didn’t have any issues with the fabric digging into his legs.  It was wide enough to accommodate him. The biggest complaint I have is that the back is low.  You can’t lean your head back.  I wish Mission Mountain made a high-back version of the chair too. ## Weight Packability The  S4 chair weighs 4.4lbs (I put it on a scale).  This is far from ultralight, but light enough that you won’t mind carrying it from your car to camp.  It packs down compact enough, so no complaints there. A nice perk is that it’s actually easy to get the chair back into its bag.  It’s definitely easier than folding chairs which go in those long-but-narrow carrying cases! [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/mission-mountain-vs-cheap-camp-chair.jpg "mission mountain vs cheap camp chair - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/mission-mountain-vs-cheap-camp-chair.jpg)Packed MM S4 chair next to my cheap folding camp chair ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [Best Snowshoes for Kids: As Chosen By an Outdoorsy Mom](https://momgoescamping.com/best-kids-snowshoes/) **Published:** October 19, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** When I was 7 years old, my dad got me a pair of snowshoes for Christmas.  I had a blast floating on top of the snow that winter.  Those snowshoes were made out of wood and had leather bindings.  While those ones are still pretty cool, today’s snowshoes for kids have come a long way.  There are now lots of features to make them more lightweight, shed snow better and provide better support for little ankles. Here are my top picks for snowshoes for kids ages 2 to teens, plus some advice on how to get the right snowshoes for your kids and style of adventuring. ## Quick Picks - **Best overall:** Yukon Charlie Sno-Bash 17″ ([Amazon](https://amzn.to/3VBpIvE)) - **Runner up:** Crescent Moon foam 17.5″ snowshoes ([Amazon](https://amzn.to/3SrrRrj)) - **Best for really little kids:** Tubbs Snowflake 14″ ([Amazon](https://amzn.to/3CGPaHK),) - **Best for mountain terrain:** MSR Shift 19″ ([Amazon](https://amzn.to/3yLHrH9),) - **Best budget-friendly option:** Tubbs Snowglow 16″ ([Amazon](https://amzn.to/3yPKG0m)) ## Comparison Table \[table id=68 /\] ## Best Snowshoes for Kids I’ve listed these picks for best kids snowshoes by size, starting from the smallest length to the largest, not necessarily from the “best.”  If you aren’t sure which snowshoes for kids you need, keep scrolling to get to the buying guide. ### 1. Tubbs Snowflake Snowshoe [![tubbs snowflake snowshoes for toddlers](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/tubbs-snowflake-snowshoes-for-toddlers.jpg "tubbs snowflake snowshoes for toddlers - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/tubbs-snowflake-snowshoes-for-toddlers.jpg) **Best for:**  Quality snow shoes for very little kids **Key Features:** - **Terrain:** Flat - **Size:** 14” - **Closure Type:** Nylon strap - **Material:** Plastic - **Max Load:** 50 lbs - **Traction Type:** Plastic bumps - **Product Weight:** 1.3lbs - **Rotating toe closure?** No Of all the kids snowshoes available, few of them are as beginner-friendly as the Tubbs Kids’ Snowflake Snowshoe.  They are designed for very little kids and supposedly good for up to 6 years old.  Realistically, they are probably best for ages 3 to 4. But even 2-year-old kids can also use these snowshoes because they are lightweight. The Flex RDG two-system binding system provides an excellent fit. It straps well on your kid’s boots so they don’t fall off even when they trip (which they will!).  More importantly, they are pretty easy to adjust.  Yes, they are nylon – which does get saturated – but it’s probably not an issue with snowshoes for kids this little. Easy adjustment is more important in this case. There is some molded plastic traction on the snowshoes, but it isn’t sharp so you don’t have to worry about injuries.  The bindings allow the heel to lift a bit, so your kid can have a more natural gait but without the learning curve that comes with pivoting toe closures. While the base is pretty wide, these snowshoes are still best for packed snow.  Expect some sinking on powder.  There is no lift on the front, so they won’t shed snow well.  But, again, your toddler probably isn’t leading the way on deep trails for this to be so important. **Pros** - Very easy to get on/off - 3-point straps for a good fit - Incredible performance - Toddler-safe traction **Cons** - Included stickers will come off easily - Low weight limit **Get Here at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3CGPaHK)** --- ### 2. Sportsstuff Monsta Trax Kids Snowshoe ![Monsta Trax kids snowshoes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/monsta-trax.jpg "monsta trax - Mom Goes Camping")![]() **Best for:** Cheap, cute snowshoe for very little kids **Key Features:** - **Terrain:** Flat - **Size:** 14″ - **Closure Type:** Hook and Loop - **Material:** Polymer - **Max Load:** 80lbs - **Traction Type:** Plastic teeth - **Product Weight:** 1.25 lbs - **Rotating toe closure?** No The Sportsstuff Monsta snowshoes are made from high-impact polymer, and the construction is better than you’ll find on other cheap snowshoes for kids.  The material should last long enough that you can use them for more than one season (or pass them down to a younger child). Because they are made out of plastic, the snowshoes are really lightweight.  The snowshoes have a weight capacity of 80-pounds, which is a good sign that they will hold up well. Aside from the price, the biggest selling point on these snowshoes is the design, which a lot of little kids will love.   They do *not* make monster tracks in the snow though! As for functionality, the Sportsstuff Monsta is easy enough to get on. The adjustable fast-click buckles are fast to put on/off and fit most snow boots.  I doubt most little kids could do it themselves though. My only concern is the straps are a little crappy. They don’t hold well when adjusted and tend to slip, so you must stop periodically to tighten them. Knotting the strap behind the buckle helps keeps the strap from sliding back out.  There’s no strap around the toe area though, so your kids feet might not be held in the toes very well (you get what you pay for). There are plastic teeth for traction on the bottom, but obviously not good enough for serious ice or mountain trails.  The traction is slightly sharper than that on the Tubbs Snowflake shoes, but not as deep or contoured. **Pros** - Inexpensive - Lightweight - Cool monster design **Cons** - Flimsy straps which often need retightening - No way to adjust toe area for better fit - Don’t make monster prints in the snow **[Get Them Here on Amazon](https://amzn.to/3MOlWv1)** --- ### 3. Yukon Charlie’s SNO-Bash Snowshoe [![yukon charlie sno bash kids snowshoes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/yukon-charlie-sno-bash-kids-snowshoes.jpg "yukon charlie sno bash kids snowshoes - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/yukon-charlie-sno-bash-kids-snowshoes.jpg) **Best for:** All-around good snowshoes which don’t cost a fortune **Key Features:** - **Terrain:** Flat - **Size:** 16″ - **Closure Type:** Pull webbing plus heel buckle - **Material:** Aluminum frame with HDPE decking - **Max Load:** 100lbs - **Traction Type:** Steel toe and heel crampons - **Product Weight:** 2.2lbs - **Rotating toe closure?** Yes, but semi-rigid If you are willing to pay a bit more for your kids’ snowshoes, the Yukon Charlie Sno-Bash are a good choice.  They aren’t too expensive but still have a lot of “professional” features like proper toe and heel crampons.  The front is lifted to keep snow off. And the 600 aluminum frame and HDPE decking is durable enough to last multiple seasons. As for the binding closure, the Yukon system is a bit different than with other snowshoes. They have a drawcord system, which makes them easy to use and go on quickly, even with gloves on. There’s also a buckle heel strap, so you get a good fit. These snowshoes technically have rotating bindings.  But, instead of using a pivot bar, the bindings rotate on strap.  This makes them more rigid than if they pivoted on a bar, so you get something in between a fixed and pivoting binding. Regarding weight and size, Yukon shows are a good balance. They are light enough not to wear out your kid, yet big enough to support their weight on the snow. Even though the weight capacity is up to 100lbs, the 16” length means the snowshoes are probably best for kids between the ages of 5 and 9 (the brand recommends them for ages 6 to 10 years old though). **Pros** - Funky design - Easy to use - Low weight to size ratio - Decent traction - Semi-rotating bindings **Cons** - Painted aluminum scratches easily - No side rails or braking bars **Get Them Here on [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3VBpIvE)** --- ### 4. Tubbs Snowglow Snowshoes [![tubbs snowshoes snowglow kids](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/tubbs-snow-shoes-kids.jpg "tubbs snow shoes kids - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/tubbs-snow-shoes-kids.jpg) **Best for:** A budget-friendly snowshoe which still has some serious features **Key Features:** - **Terrain:** Flat and Rolling - **Size:** 16” - **Closure Type:** Ratcheting with buckle heel strap - **Material:** Plastic - **Max Load:** 50lbs - **Traction Type:** Molded plastic side rails with steel toe crampon - **Product Weight:** 1.76lbs - **Rotating toe closure?** Yes These snowshoes by Tubbs have been around for a long time.  Their main draw (for kids) is that they light up with each step.  You need an SR44 battery for that.  This is actually cool if you are worried about seeing your kid in the dark.  Note that batteries need to be changed more often when in sub-zero temps! As for performance, these snowshoes actually have some cool features.  For starters, they have a rotating toe cord for shedding snow.  There is a steel crampon in the toe area, so your kid gets good traction each time their feet rotate forward. The main concern with these snowshoes is that they are a bit heavy and have a low weight limit of just 50lbs. The toe binding is also fairly small, so won’t fit larger boots. Even though the age recommendation is for 4-8, it’s probably better for kids 4-6 years old. **Pros:** - Rotating toe binding - Decent traction - Light up with each step - Good for deep powder - Affordable **Cons:** - Low weight limit - Batteries need replacement fairly often [**Get It Here at Amazon**](https://amzn.to/3yPKG0m) --- ### 5. Tubbs Flex Jr. Snowshoes [![tubbs flex jr youth snowshoes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/tubbs-flex-jr-youth-snowshoes.jpg "tubbs flex jr youth snowshoes - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/tubbs-flex-jr-youth-snowshoes.jpg) **Best for:** Good snowshoes which can handle a variety of types of snow **Key Features:** - **Terrain:** Rolling - **Size:** 17” - **Closure Type:** Ratcheting with heel strap - **Material:** Plastic - **Max Load:** 90lbs - **Traction Type:** Steel side rails and toe crampon - **Product Weight:** 2.4lbs - **Rotating toe closure?** Yes Here’s another pair of kids snowshoes by Tubbs.  Like the Snowglow snowshoes, they have rotating toe closures. But the Flex Jr. snowshoes actually have steel side rails as well as traction on the toe.  The traction makes them better for slightly icy conditions and even some hilly terrain. There is a bit of a braking but not enough to consider it a real braking bar. There’s a quick-lock ratcheting closure system, which works as advertised.  Small feet might experience some slipping though and need occasional retightening. The main draw of these snowshoes though is how well they handle various types of snow.  They float well on powder but also do well on packed snow, even on slightly hilly conditions.  If they were just a bit lighter, they would get a better rating. **Pros:** - Float well on deep powder - Handles icy and hilly conditions fairly well **Cons:** - Heavy **Get Them Here on [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3TtzaPY)** --- ### 6. MSR Tyker Kids’ Snowshoes for Children [![msr tyker snowshoes for kids](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/msr-tyker-snowshoes-for-kids.jpg "msr tyker snowshoes for kids - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/msr-tyker-snowshoes-for-kids.jpg) **Best for** A durable snowshoe for kids ages 5 to 9 **Key Features:** - **Terrain:** Flat - **Size:** 17″ - **Closure Type:** Hook and loop - **Material:** Plastic - **Max Load:** 80 lbs - **Traction Type:** Plastic side rails, steel toe crampons and braking bars - **Product Weight:** 1.9lbs - **Rotating toe closure?** No MSR makes good-quality gear, and their kids snowshoes are no exception.  They have some really nice features like being made out of injection-molded plastic, so they are lightweight yet still sturdy. Because of the way they are shaped, your kid will definitely not sink in powder. Unlike other kids snowshoes, the MSR Tyker can actually be used for many ages.  It is 17 inches long, so will keep heavier kids afloat.  But the light weight means that kids as young as 4 years old can use them (they are probably best for kids 5-9 though).  So, if you want to buy just one pair of snowshoes which you kids can use for years, this is the one. The traction on the MSR Tyker is also really good. There are plastic side rails, a steel toe crampon and braking bars (pretty much no kids snowshoes have braking bars!).  Don’t expect them to work on mountain terrain: these snowshoes are still only meant for flat terrain but your kid could probably manage a hill or two. My biggest issue with the MSR kids snowshoes are the bindings. They use a method similar to the one you’d find on watches. On the plus side, these bindings are highly adjustable and stay in place.  But they are difficult to close with gloves on. **Pros** - Very durable - Good traction, including braking bars - Lightweight - Good on powder **Cons** -         Bindings are hard to put on with gloves on **Get It Here On [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3ScExlD) or Here at [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dmsr%2Btyker)** --- ### 7. TSL Kidoo Snowshoes [![tls kidoo snowshoes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/tls-kidoo-snowshoes.jpg "tls kidoo snowshoes - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/tls-kidoo-snowshoes.jpg) **Best for:** Introductory snowshoes with okay traction **Key Features:** - **Terrain:** Flat - **Size:** 17” - **Closure Type:** Ratcheting with heel strap - **Material:** Plastic - **Max Load:** 65lbs - **Traction Type:** 3 steel spikes - **Product Weight:** 1.4lbs - **Rotating toe closure?** No The TSL Kidoo snowshoes have also been available for years.  They are mostly popular because of their cheap price.  You definitely get what you pay for though.  The closure system isn’t the most secure and is a bit of a pain to put on. The reason these make the list of best kids snowshoes is because they have good traction: there’s a crampon in the toe area and three additional  crampons.  This isn’t a lot of traction, but more than you’ll find with other kids snowshoes. The hourglass shape of the snowshoes is also nice.  It helps with natural stride, despite the toe cord being fixed, as well as shedding snow.  Considering that the weight limit is only 65lbs, I’m not sure how well the plastic will hold up.  I wouldn’t count on passing these down to a younger child! **Pros:** - Cheap - Decent enough traction - Shed snow well **Cons:** - Low weight limit - Durability questionable - Not the best traction **Get Them Here on [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3Tzg3DY)** --- ### 8. Crescent Moon Kids Snowshoes [![crescent moon foam snowshoes for kids](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/crescent-moon-foam-snowshoes-for-kids.jpg "crescent moon foam snowshoes for kids - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/crescent-moon-foam-snowshoes-for-kids.jpg) **Best for:** A snowshoe that will grow with your kid and can be used on lots of different terrain **Key Features:** - **Terrain:** Rolling - **Size:** 5” - **Closure Type:** Velcro hook and loop - **Material:** Foam - **Max Load:** 100 lbs - **Traction Type:** Rubber lugs and ice cleats (removable) - **Product Weight:** 1.75lbs - **Rotating toe closure?** No The snowshoes by Crescent Moon aren’t exactly cheap, but they are really good quality.  They are also one of the only snowshoes for little kids which are suitable for hilly terrain.  The rubber traction works surprisingly well.  It’s cool that the ice cleats can be removed if you don’t need them. I was a bit concerned that the foam wouldn’t hold up.  But, according to a lot of users, the foam is actually really durable and the snowshoes will last for years.  It’s the strap which might eventually fail on you. Luckily it’s not actually sewn into the snowshoe, so you can replace it – it’s just a Velcro strap so easy enough to find. The main draw of using a foam snowshoe is that it is lightweight.  This means even little kids can use the snowshoes (despite being long at 17.5 inches).  As your kid grows, they will still be able to use the same snowshoes.  The foam also provides some insulation against the snow to keep your kids’ feet warm, but this isn’t exactly the main selling point. **Pros:** - Very lightweight for length - Good for wide range of ages - Surprisingly good traction - Ice cleats are optional - Velcro closure can easily be replaced - Durable - Toe and heel lift - Several colors to choose from **Cons:** - Pricier option **Get Them Here on [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3SrrRrj)** --- ### 9. MSR Shift Kids Snowshoes ![msr shift snowshoes youth](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/msr-shift-snowshoes-youth.jpg "msr shift snowshoes youth - Mom Goes Camping") **Best for:** Serious kids snowshoes for mountain terrain **Key Features:** - **Terrain:** Mountain - **Size:** 19” - **Closure Type:** Rubber strap - **Material:** Plastic - **Max Load:** 125 lbs - **Traction Type:** Steel side rails and toe crampons and plastic braking bars - **Product Weight:** 2.5lbs - **Rotating toe closure?** Yes The MSR Shift are one of the few “serious” snowshoes for kids. They have the same features you’d find on a good pair of adult snowshoes, like steel traction and braking bars for handling mountainous terrain.  The tips are tapered and there is a pivoting toe closure.  For some reason though, there is no lift on the back of the snowshoes. These snowshoes are designed for kids ages 7-12 years old and will fit shoes sizes 1-7 US (Men’s). They are fairly heavy at 2.5lbs.  So, even if they have big feet, don’t count on younger kids being able to use them.  Just like with the MSR Tyker snowshoes, they are made out of a really durable injection molded plastic, so should last for many seasons. The rubber strap closures are pretty annoying to use.  But, if your kid can handle serious terrain, they can probably handle the straps too J.  So, the only real downside to these snowshoes is their price: they definitely aren’t cheap but you get what you pay for. **Pros:** - Suitable for mountain terrain - 3-strap binding gives secure fit - Great traction, including braking bars - Very durable construction **Cons:** - No rear lift - Fairly heavy - Pricy option **Get Them Here on [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3yLHrH9)** --- ## Best Snowshoes for Kids Buying Guide (Things to Consider) [![kids snowshoes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/snowshoe-bindings-for-kids.jpg "snowshoe bindings for kids - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/snowshoe-bindings-for-kids.jpg) ### 1.   Kids Snowshoes Size Chart When looking at kids snowshoes, you actually want to look at your child’s *weight* (not their age, height or foot size). This is because a larger snowshoe is necessary to distribute heavier weights across the snow so the shoes don’t sink. So long as the bindings are adjustable, they should fit your child’s feet fine.  However, some brands do list what shoe sizes their snowshoes will fit. \[table id=69 /\] ### 2.  Weight of the Snowshoes The heavier the snowshoes are, the harder it is going to be for kids to use them.   In order to make them lightweight without sacrificing quality, most manufacturers just shorten the snowshoes – but short snowshoes don’t float well.  Your child will quickly outgrow them. If you want a pair of snowshoes which will last your child several seasons, then look for ones which are longer yet still lightweight. For example, the Crescent Moon snowshoes are 17.5” but weigh less than 2lbs.  This means they can be used by little kids as well as older kids so you get more use out of them. ### 3. Snowshoe Weight Limit Just because a pair of snowshoes has a weight limit of 100lbs, it doesn’t mean your kid will be able to use them when they reach 100lbs.   You really need to be looking at the *length* of the snowshoes when determining the right size. However, the snowshoes weight limit is a good indicator of their quality.  For example, two pairs of plastic snowshoes can look exactly the same but one has a weight limit of 50lbs whereas the other has 75lbs.  The 75lb-limit ones will likely last a lot longer before they crack! Remember that the weight limit is for your child *and* anything they are carrying! ### 4. Closure Type Every single kids snowshoes advertise that they are “easy” to put on.  This is rarely the case.   Most little kids won’t be able to get snowshoes on/off by themselves, especially with cold or mitten hands.  Some bindings are definitely easier than others though. The downside is that, **the easier the snowshoes are to get on, the more likely the bindings are to slip.** If you kid spends a good amount of time snowshoeing, you’ll probably have to readjust/tighten the bindings at least once.   Most little kids won’t last this long on the trail though, so you never end up needing to readjust. The bottom line? Focus on easy on/off for little kids.  For older kids, the security of the bindings matters more. [![Kids putting on snowshoes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/putting-on-kids-snowshoes-closures.jpg "putting on kids snowshoes closures - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/putting-on-kids-snowshoes-closures.jpg)Dont expect little kids to be able to get snowshoes on by themselves ### 5. Snowshoe Traction and Safety [![snowshoes for kids and traction](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/snowshoes-for-kids-hiking.jpg "snowshoes for kids hiking - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/snowshoes-for-kids-hiking.jpg)Kids marching in snow shoes Most snowshoes for kids – especially little kids – aren’t going to have very good traction.  It’s a matter of safety because you don’t want your kid getting hurt on sharp steel crampons. But if you plan on taking your kid on icy or hilly terrain, you absolutely need some traction.   Plastic traction does work better than you’d think, but is no match for steel crampons. ### 6. Rotating Toe Cords or Not? Snowshoes can have either rotating or fixed toe cords. They are also sometimes called “rotating” or “fixed” bindings: **Rotating toe cords** (also called pivoting toe cords) have binding which rotates on a rod with each step.  The extra movement means the back of the snowshoe stays down and drags as you walk.  You get more ankle movement.  Your kid is also less likely to spray snow all over their backside.  They are harder to maneuver around objects though, and have a bit of a learning curve. **Fixed toe cords** keep your feet (mostly) in place.  The binding stays close to the snowshoe as you walk. Your child is more likely to throw snow on their backside, but fixed bindings are easier to maneuver and more intuitive to use. **Which should you get for your child?**  It’s a matter of personal preference. However, most kids snowshoes are going to have fixed toe cords.  They are cheaper to make and easier for newbies to use.  If your kid has some experience with snowshoeing or will be going on deep powder, the rotating toe cords are probably better. ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking **Tags:** winter --- ### [Best Merino Wool Base Layers for Women (Including High-Tech and Budget Options)](https://momgoescamping.com/merino-wool-base-layers-women/) **Published:** November 23, 2018 **Author:** Diane **Content:** It took me a while to convert to Merino wool. Now that I have, there’s no going back to synthetics.  Not only will a good Merino base layer make you more comfortable through a variety of temperatures, but you won’t stink even after days of hiking in the same top (I think after an hour in a synthetic base layer!). There are lots of options when it comes to Merino base layers for women.  Yes, there actually is a difference in quality – but not always enough to justify the cost of one top over another.  Here are the best women’s base layer tops actually worth the cost and what you need to know to choose. ## Quick Picks: - **Best Midweight:** [Icebreaker Oasis](https://amzn.to/3OmARgT) - **Best Heavyweight:** [Icebreaker Tech](https://amzn.to/3tLrtJZ) - **Budget Pick:** [Woolly 150](https://amzn.to/3Epg9Iw) ## Best Women’s Merino Wool Base Layers Scroll down for a mega comparison table with all the options listed by price, weight and other features. ### 1. Icebreaker Base Layers **Choose because:** You want great construction and durability and are willing to pay for it [![icebreaker oasis womens merino base layer](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/icebreaker-oasis-280x300.jpg "icebreaker oasis - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/icebreaker-oasis.jpg) Icebreaker regularly gets listed as the best Merino wool brand.  They are pricy but the quality is really evidence.  The 100% Merino is extra-soft and they are really nicely constructed with flatlock seams that won’t chaffe. They hold up better than most other brands, so you’ll get more use out of them. They have a brand new women’s base layer top called the Zoneknit (shown below).  I haven’t tried it but it looks amazing.  There is an articulated construction. Some of the panels are made of eyelet Merino mesh for breathability.  It’s really a great pick for high-intensity activities where you will be sweating a lot. It’s just too bad the top costs a small fortune. [![icebreaker zoneknit active base layer for women](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/icebreaker-zoneknit-active-base-layer-for-women-300x230.jpg "icebreaker zoneknit active base layer for women - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/icebreaker-zoneknit-active-base-layer-for-women.jpg) **Top Options:** - Icebreaker Everyday: 175 g/m2 – crew or ½ zip; set-in sleeves - Ice breaker Oasis: 200 g/m2 – crew, ½ zip or scoop; set-in sleeves - Icebreaker Tech: 260 g/m2 – ½ zip or scoop; set-in sleeves - ZoneKnit: 200g/m2 – crew, articulated, mesh panels **Available at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/4hH9oDw)** --- ### 2. SmartWool Base Layers **Choose because:** Good quality and can usually find on sale [![Smartwool womens merino base layers](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/smartwool-base-layer-256x300.jpg "smartwool base layer - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/smartwool-base-layer.jpg) When it comes to quality, Smartwool and Icebreaker are pretty close (serious backpackers tend to say that Icebreaker is better).   The main difference is that Smartwool women’s tops have raglan sleeves.  It’s also easier to find Smartwool products on sale or secondhand. **Top Options:** - 150 g/m2: Crew or ¼ zip - 250 g/m2: Crew or ¼ zip **Available at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3i1Ni5B)** --- ### 3. Kari Traa Else and Rose Base Layer Tops **Choose because:** Cute patterns from a cool woman-run brand [![Kari Traa Rose Merino base layer for women](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/kari-traa-rose-300x280.jpg "kari traa rose - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/kari-traa-rose.jpg) Kari Traa is my personal favorite brand of women’s base layers. I love the designs on these and also that the brand is run by women. I have two of their Rose Merino tops and they’ve survived multiple washings already.  The company has a great policy towards sustainability and responsibly-sourcing materials. My only real complaint is that the designs are too vivid.  Sometimes I feel ridiculous wearing them with my other patterned hiking gear (I’m definitely the most colorful person on the trail!).  The weight makes them awesome for camping pajamas. These base layers are pricy but you can usually find them on sale. **Top Options:** - Else: 210 g/m2, ½ zip and Henley - Rose: 240 g/m2; ½ zip and Henley **Get Them at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3TWfR1x)** --- ### 4. Arc’teryx Rho **Choose because:** You need a base layer for climbing or lots of movement ![arcteryx rho base layer top for women merino](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/arcteryx-rho-base-layer-top-for-women-merino-236x300.jpg "arcteryx rho base layer top for women merino - Mom Goes Camping") Currently Arc’teryx only makes on woman’s base layer top: the Rho.  It’s a fantastic top though.  The main thing to love is the articulated construction.  There are 12 separate panels sewn together in a way for comfort and mobility.  The front panel is somewhat narrow, so it isn’t the best base layer option for women with large busts, but otherwise it is really comfortable. Despite being made of 240g Merino wool, it is considered “lightweight” because it also contains 220g Chira.  Like with other Arc’teryx clothing though, the top is really pricy. **Get It at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3i6ndCB)** --- ### 5. Minus33 Women’s Base Layers **Choose because:** It’s affordable but still good quality![]() While not exactly cheap, Minus33 is definitely a more budget-friendly brand of women’s Merino base layers.  They save money by using a lower-quality weave on their tops.  The tops are still comfortable and warm, but they will snag more readily than other brands.  They have two weight options: 170g and 235g. **Get them Here at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3XzGzQK)** --- ### 6. Woolly Women’s Base Layers **Choose because:** They are cheap![]() Woolly is a budget brand of Merino wool.  Their fabrics aren’t as soft and the construction isn’t great: it will get stretched out around the arms and bust.  You will also get runs in the tops fairly soon.  But, for occasional use, Woolly base layers are a good option for a lightweight base layer. They also have a heavyweight pullover with an attractive cowl neck. This one is good for everyday wear in winter when you won’t be sweating a lot. **Top Options:** - Lightweight: 150 g/m2: 95% Merino; various neck options - Pullover: 260 g/m2 with a cowl neck **Get Them Here at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3XrdGG4)** --- ### 7. Merino.Tech Women’s Base Layers **Choose because:** You want the cheapest base layer which is still good fabric![](https://ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&language=en_US&l=li3&o=1&a=B08X2ZC1VM) The fabric on Merino.Tech base layers is actually really great.  The problem is with the construction.  The stitching will come loose fairly quickly.  This is to be expected with such a cheap brand of Merino wool though. So, if you really are on a budget (and don’t mind sewing up your shirts as they come apart), then Merino.Tech is an okay option.  They come with a free pair of Merino socks. **Top Options:** - 165 g/m2: Crew - 250 g/m2: Crew and ½ zip - 320 g/m2: Crew and ½ zip  **Get Them Here at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3tWTxtX)** --- ## How to Choose Women’s Merino Base Layers ### Merino Wool Weight Merino wool base layers come in different thicknesses and weaves.  These are suitable for different types of use or temperatures.   The thickness is measured in grams per meter squared, which tells you how much wool is in the fabric. If you aren’t sure which weight to get and only want to invest in one Merino base layer, I’d recommend getting something around 210 g/m2.  This is versatile enough to be used in many situations and temperatures. **Ultralight:** - 120-150 g/m2 - For warm to hot conditions - Usually a jersey knit - Doesn’t stand up to abuse well **Lightweight:** - 170-200 g/m2 - Good for high activity in moderately cool weather **Midweight:** - 200-300 g/m2 - Good for high activity at cold temperatures or low activity at moderate temperatures - The most versatile option **Heavyweight:** - 300+ g/m2 - Good for low-to-moderate activity during cold temperatures - Not good for high-activity unless very cold temperatures - Can be worn as a mid layer ### Sleeve Construction The way the sleeve is sewn onto a base layer top matters for range of movement.  As a general rule, **more fabric pieces = better movement.**   Not only are they more comfortable, but the base layer will last longer because it doesn’t stretch out in key areas so quickly. However, having more fabric pieces means more seams, which can be uncomfortable.  Sewing all those extra seams together also means the garment is more expensive to make. **There are three main sleeve options you’ll see with base layer tops for women:** - **Set-in:** These are standard sleeves sewn in horizontally at the armpit area. They are the cheapest to make. - **Raglan:** These sleeves go up to the neck area. They create a wider underarm area for better range of movement.  Because the seam is up higher, they are less likely to cause chaffing under a backpack.  The construction method means they are slightly more expensive to make. - **Articulated:** This means that the sleeves (or entire shirt) was made out of multiple pieces of fabric to maximize movement. ### Neck Type The neck type on Merino base layers really does matter when it comes to warmth, ventilation and comfort.  There’s no one “best” option – it’s a matter of personal preference.  For example, I hate having a zipper against my neck but other people love that you can easily - **Crew:** This is the common option and works with many types of mid layers. - **Zipper (1/4 or ½):** These necklines come up higher to keep your neck warm or can be unzipped to allow for ventilation. Zippers are expensive though so expect zip base layers to cost more. - **Henley:** A Henley neckline has buttons which can be undone for ventilation. They are difficult to undo with gloves on though. - **V-neck:** These provide the least warmth but are often more comfortable for women with very large breasts. ### Percentage Merino Base layers made out of 100% Merino will provide more insulation.  However, some people prefer to have some synthetic materials in their base layers too.  While not as warm, synthetic fibers helps make the base layer stronger so it sags less. **As a general rule, you want:** - **100% Merino:** In heavyweight tops, since insulation is your primary concern. - **80% or more Merino:** In midweight tops, since insulation is still important. - **50% or more Merino:** In lightweight tops, since the synthetic helps with wicking and the Merino last longer. - A higher percentage of synthetic is great since insulation isn’t your primary concern - **Midweight tops:** Note that some brands use special synthetics which are great at wicking away moisture. These combos are good for heavyweight base layers used for high-intensity activities where you’ll be sweating a lot. ### Responsibly Sourced Wool Certification There are a lot of moral issues with the wool industry (such as mulesing).  As a result, many good brands of Merino base layers only source their wool from certified “responsible” sources.   Read about this here. **The main certifications you’ll see are:** - [Responsible Wool Standard](https://textileexchange.org/responsible-wool-standard/) - [ZQ Standard](https://www.textilestandards.com/standards/119-the-zqrx-platform) Don’t expect cheap base layers to come from responsible sources.  They often get their wool from bulk wholesalers and can’t track the source at all. If they don’t mention that their wool is responsibly sourced, it probably isn’t! --- Image credit: “[Merino Sheep at Greenfield Village](https://www.flickr.com/photos/maiac/4589478054/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Maia C](https://www.flickr.com/people/maiac/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [Best Puffer Jackets for Kids](https://momgoescamping.com/best-puffer-jackets-for-kids/) **Published:** January 27, 2025 **Author:** Mom Goes Camping **Content:** ### Key Points: **Insulation Matters**: - Understanding the difference between down and synthetic insulation ensures optimal warmth. **Water Resistance**: - Look for a DWR coating or waterproof shell to handle snow and light rain. **Layer for Comfort**: - Pair your kids puffer jacket with base layers and fleece in colder climates. **Durability Counts**: - Reinforced stitching and sturdy zippers ensure the jacket stands up to active play. **Proper Care Extends Life**: - Gently wash, tumble dry with tennis balls, and store uncompressed to maintain loft. ### Quick Select: Best value vs budget pick – [REI Co-op 650](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F221696%2Frei-co-op-650-down-jacket-kids) Camping Mom’s – proven performance pick – [Patagonia Kids Down Sweater](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F223378%2Fpatagonia-down-sweater-kids) ### Why Choose a Puffer Jacket for Kids? Puffer jackets are the best option for winter because of their lightweight warmth and excellent insulation. They’re designed with materials that trap heat efficiently, making them perfect for cold climates. Many puffer jackets also feature water-resistant or waterproof shells, keeping kids dry in wet or snowy conditions. Plus, their stylish designs mean your child can stay warm without compromising on looks. As a camping mom this is what is important to me: **Lightweight Design**: Unlike bulky winter coats, puffer jackets provide exceptional warmth without adding unnecessary weight. This makes them ideal for kids who love to run, play, and explore. **Compact and Packable**: Many puffer jackets are designed to be packable, meaning you can easily fold them into a backpack or travel bag without taking up much space. This is perfect for family trips or [unexpected winter camping adventures](https://momgoescamping.com/winter-camping/). **Versatility**: Whether your child is heading to school, hitting the ski slopes, or building a snowman, a kids puffer jacket is versatile enough to handle various activities. If you’re planning a family camping trip in the colder months, be sure to consult our [family camping checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-checklist-family/) for more gear suggestions. **Modern Styles**: With so many colours, patterns, and designs available, finding a jacket that matches your child’s personality and preferences is a breeze. --- ### Key Features to Look for in a Kids Puffer Jacket ![Diagram comparing synthetic and down insulation used in kids' puffer jackets](https://www.activedsm.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/SyntheticVDown.png) Not all puffer jackets are created equal. When shopping for a kids puffer jacket, consider these crucial features to ensure your child stays warm, comfortable, and dry: #### 1. **Insulation Material** The type of insulation used in the jacket plays a major role in its warmth and performance. Here are the two main types: - **Down Insulation**: Made from the soft under-feathers of ducks or geese, down insulation is incredibly warm, lightweight, and breathable. However, it can lose its insulating properties when wet unless the jacket is treated with a water-resistant finish. - **Synthetic Insulation**: Made from polyester fibres, synthetic insulation is designed to mimic the warmth of down but performs better in wet conditions. It’s also more affordable and easier to care for, making it a popular choice for kids’ jackets. For more advice on layering kids for cold weather, check out our tips on [staying warm while camping](https://momgoescamping.com/is-it-warmer-inside-a-tent/). #### 2. **Water Resistance** Winter weather often brings snow, sleet, and rain, so it’s essential to choose a jacket with some level of water resistance. Look for features like: - A durable water-repellent (DWR) coating - Waterproof or water-resistant shells - Sealed seams to prevent water from seeping in #### 3. **Fit and Comfort** Kids need to move freely, whether they’re sledding down a hill or throwing snowballs. Make sure the jacket fits comfortably and allows for layering underneath. Adjustable cuffs, drawstrings, and stretchy materials can enhance comfort and mobility. Need more inspiration on what to pack for an outdoor trip? Our [camping gear for kids guide](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-essentials-toddlers/) has you covered. #### 4. **Durability** Kids can be tough on clothing, so durability is key. Choose a jacket made from high-quality materials with reinforced stitching, sturdy zippers, and strong buttons or snaps. This ensures the jacket can withstand the wear and tear of outdoor play. #### 5. **Hood and Extra Features** A hood adds extra warmth and protection from wind and snow. Some jackets also come with: - Removable or adjustable hoods - Fleece-lined pockets - Reflective details for visibility - Snow skirts to keep snow out ### ![toddler camping essential gear puffer jacket kids](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/toddler-camping-essentials.jpg) ### Insights from Macpac: Choosing the Right Kids Puffer Jacket The team at Macpac offers additional expert advice when selecting the perfect puffer jacket for your child. Here are some highlights: #### **The Role of Synthetic vs Down Insulation** While down insulation is excellent for providing warmth, synthetic insulation is ideal for wet or damp conditions. Macpac’s synthetic jackets, for example, are designed to retain warmth even when wet, making them suitable for variable weather. #### **Weight and Packability** Macpac highlights the importance of lightweight and packable designs, especially for active kids. Their range of puffer jackets includes options that easily fold into compact spaces, perfect for outdoor adventures or travel. #### **Eco-Friendly Materials** Macpac is committed to sustainability, using recycled materials in many of their kids’ puffer jackets. This means you can keep your child warm while also caring for the environment. #### **Durability for Active Lifestyles** Kids are always on the move, and their jackets should keep up. Macpac emphasises reinforced stitching and high-quality zippers to ensure their jackets last through multiple seasons of wear and tear. #### **Features for Comfort and Safety** Key features like hoods, adjustable cuffs, and reflective details add to the functionality of a kids’ puffer jacket. Reflective trims, for instance, are invaluable for enhancing visibility during low-light conditions. --- ### Product Comparison Table Below is a comparison of each recommended kids puffer jacket, including insulation type, water resistance, approximate price range:Each option above offers a great mix of warmth, comfort, and durability. Read on to learn more about the individual features and why these jackets made our list. 1 [![Patagonia Down Sweater](https://www.rei.com/media/b678cd0d-50e6-4b37-ba38-7745a947642f.jpg?size=576x768)](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F223378%2Fpatagonia-down-sweater-kids%3Fcm_mmc%3Daff_AL-_-343845-_-402593-_-NA%26avad%3D402593_b3f3f87a1) Crowd Favorite and Overall Winner [Patagonia Down Sweater](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F223378%2Fpatagonia-down-sweater-kids%3Fcm_mmc%3Daff_AL-_-343845-_-402593-_-NA%26avad%3D402593_b3f3f87a1) - Down - Water Resistant Shell - DWR 9.7 [Check Price](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F223378%2Fpatagonia-down-sweater-kids%3Fcm_mmc%3Daff_AL-_-343845-_-402593-_-NA%26avad%3D402593_b3f3f87a1) Known for its eco-friendly approach, Patagonia uses responsibly sourced down in this jacket. This is what our kids wear the most. It’s lightweight, packable, and offers excellent warmth—great for outdoor adventures.  It boasts a premium 800 fill power. The outer is also wind resistant. The semi-trim fit makes it easy to layer under a hard shell jacket—and it’s near-perfect for cold-weather activities like resort skiing, provided you keep it protected from moisture. Plus, it’s available in a range of vibrant colours that kids love. 2 [![REI Co-Op 650 Down Jacket](https://www.rei.com/media/9fd3b5ef-efba-47f9-95ba-4e7b35889a13.jpg?size=576x768)](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F221696%2Frei-co-op-650-down-jacket-kids%3Fcm_mmc%3Daff_AL-_-343845-_-402593-_-NA%26avad%3D402593_e3f3eb391) Overall Value Pick [REI Co-Op 650 Down Jacket](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F221696%2Frei-co-op-650-down-jacket-kids%3Fcm_mmc%3Daff_AL-_-343845-_-402593-_-NA%26avad%3D402593_e3f3eb391) - Down - DWR 9.4 [Check Price](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F221696%2Frei-co-op-650-down-jacket-kids%3Fcm_mmc%3Daff_AL-_-343845-_-402593-_-NA%26avad%3D402593_e3f3eb391) Made with responsibly sourced down, this budget-friendly option offers great warmth without breaking the bank. It’s lightweight, easy to pack, and perfect for layering on extremely cold days. This jacket is a great all-rounder. The REI 650 down jacket is a camping mom overall pick. 3 [![Columbia Youth Girls Powder Lite II Hooded Jacket](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/715hWyiEXBL._AC_SX679_.jpg)](https://amzn.to/3PT7tAg) [Columbia Youth Girls Powder Lite II Hooded Jacket](https://amzn.to/3PT7tAg) - Synthetic - DWR 8.5 [Check Price](https://amzn.to/3PT7tAg) This jacket combines synthetic insulation with a water-resistant shell, making it a versatile choice for various winter activities. It’s lightweight yet warm, perfect for layering on extra-cold days. Columbia is known for its durable outdoor gear, so you can trust this jacket to last through many winters. 4 [![THE NORTH FACE Reversible Mossbud Swirl Jacket](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51ABpwV3XeL._SL500_.jpg)](https://amzn.to/4awTKbX) [THE NORTH FACE Reversible Mossbud Swirl Jacket](https://amzn.to/4awTKbX) - Synthetic - Water Resistant Shell 9 [Check Price](https://amzn.to/4awTKbX) This reversible jacket gives you two looks in one. It features synthetic insulation and a water-resistant outer shell on one side, with a soft fleece lining on the other. The versatility makes it a favourite among parents and kids. 5 [![LL Bean Kids’ Ultralight 850 Down Jacket](https://cdni.llbean.net/is/image/wim/505067_36130_41)](https://global.llbean.com/llb/shop/121023.html?CORECRD=true) [LL Bean Kids’ Ultralight 850 Down Jacket](https://global.llbean.com/llb/shop/121023.html?CORECRD=true) - Down - DWR 9.4 [Check Price](https://global.llbean.com/llb/shop/121023.html?CORECRD=true) With its premium down insulation and water-resistant shell, this jacket is designed to keep kids warm even in the harshest conditions. LL Bean’s reputation for quality ensures a long-lasting product. 6 [![Marmot Kids’ Guides Down Hoody](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/713-b8y8KwL._AC_SY741_.jpg)](https://amzn.to/40UmaIH) [Marmot Kids’ Guides Down Hoody](https://amzn.to/40UmaIH) - Down - DWR 9.1 [Check Price](https://amzn.to/40UmaIH) This jacket features 700-fill down insulation, offering exceptional warmth and comfort. The attached hood and DWR finish provide extra protection against the elements, making it a great choice for winter adventures. ### How We Reviewed and Tested These Jackets *We took a thorough approach by carefully analyzing each jacket’s brand specifications, user feedback, and recognized best practices for children’s winter gear. Our focus was on insulation quality, water resistance, and overall durability—key factors that matter most to parents. While we didn’t physically test each jacket in a variety of climates, we made sure to cross-reference official product details with parent reviews and standard guidelines, ensuring that our recommendations align with real-world expectations. In this way, we’ve done our best to provide parents with trusted options, even if we’ve primarily relied on the data and insights from our network of camping moms.* --- ### Tips for Buying the Perfect Kids Puffer Jacket Finding the right puffer jacket for your child doesn’t have to be overwhelming. Follow these tips to make the process easier: #### 1. **Check the Temperature Rating** Look for jackets rated for the lowest temperatures your child will encounter. This ensures they stay warm even in extreme conditions. #### 2. **Layer Up** Pair the puffer jacket with thermal base layers and fleece tops for added warmth. Layering also allows for flexibility in changing weather conditions. If you’re not sure what else to pack, see our comprehensive [camping gear for kids guide](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-essentials-toddlers/). #### 3. **Consider Growth** Kids grow quickly, so look for features like extendable sleeves or adjustable cuffs to ensure the jacket lasts more than one season. #### 4. **Choose Bright Colours** Brightly coloured jackets not only look fun but also make it easier to spot your child in a crowd or on the slopes. #### 5. **Involve Your Child** Let your child choose the colour or style they prefer. When kids love their jacket, they’re more likely to wear it without complaints. --- ### Caring for a Puffer Jacket To keep your child’s puffer jacket in great condition, follow these care tips: - **Wash Gently**: Use a front-loading washing machine with a gentle cycle and mild detergent. Avoid using fabric softeners, as they can reduce the jacket’s water resistance. - **Dry Properly**: Tumble dry on low heat with a couple of clean tennis balls to help maintain the jacket’s loft. This prevents the insulation from clumping together. - **Store with Care**: Avoid compressing the jacket for long periods. $1 ### How to Repair a Tear in Your Puffer Jacket If you discover a tear in your child’s jacket, the fix can be quick and simple. First, clean and dry the damaged area thoroughly. Then, apply a durable adhesive patch like [GEAR AID Tenacious Tape](https://amzn.to/40OEiVi). This creates a waterproof seal that prevents insulation from escaping and moisture from seeping in, ensuring the jacket maintains its warmth. For larger rips or more complex damage, you might want to seek professional repair to preserve the jacket’s full insulating properties. --- ### Why a Quality Kids Puffer Jacket is Worth the Investment Investing in a high-quality kids puffer jacket ensures your child stays warm and comfortable during winter activities. A well-made jacket offers superior insulation, water resistance, and durability, making it a practical choice for families who love the outdoors. While budget-friendly options are available, spending a bit more on a durable, feature-rich jacket can save money in the long run by lasting through multiple seasons. Remember, the right jacket can make all the difference in your child’s winter experience. With so many great options available, finding the perfect kids puffer jacket is easier than ever. Happy shopping and enjoy the season! --- ## Related Reading - [Discover how to camp comfortably in winter with these essential tips.](https://momgoescamping.com/winter-camping/) - [Don’t forget to include these items on your family camping checklist.](https://momgoescamping.com/winter-camping-gear-checklist/) - [Learn how to stay cosy on chilly camping nights.](https://momgoescamping.com/stay-dry-backpacking-wet-winter/) - [Pair a warm sleeping bag with a puffer jacket for ultimate comfort.](https://momgoescamping.com/kids-sleeping-bags-cold-weather-winter-camping/) - [Warm up with these delicious cold-weather camping recipes.](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/) - [Plan a family camping trip for any season with these helpful tips.](https://momgoescamping.com/winter-camping/) --- ## Frequently Asked Questions **1. Are kids puffer jackets warm enough for extremely cold weather?** Yes, especially if you choose one with high-quality down or advanced synthetic insulation. Look for jackets rated for your region’s coldest temperatures, and remember to layer with base layers and fleece on exceptionally cold days. **2. What’s the difference between down and synthetic insulation?** Down insulation—made from duck or goose feathers—tends to be warmer and lighter but can lose insulating properties if it gets wet. Synthetic insulation uses polyester fibers that maintain warmth even when damp and can be more budget-friendly. **3. Do I need to buy a size up for my child’s puffer jacket?** It’s common to size up slightly to account for layering or your child’s growth. However, avoid going too large, as an ill-fitting jacket might let cold air in and reduce mobility. **4. How do I wash a kids puffer jacket properly?** Use a gentle cycle in a front-loading washing machine with mild detergent, and avoid fabric softeners. Tumble dry on low heat with clean tennis balls to restore the jacket’s loft. For more care details, see the “Caring for a Puffer Jacket” section above. **5. Are puffer jackets waterproof or just water-resistant?** Most are water-resistant rather than fully waterproof. Check labels for a DWR (durable water-repellent) finish or sealed seams if you need extra protection in wet or snowy conditions. **6. Which features should I look for in a kids puffer jacket?** Key features include a hood (preferably removable or adjustable), well-insulated pockets, reflective details for visibility, adjustable cuffs, and a sturdy zipper. A snow skirt can also help keep out snow if your child plays in deep drifts. **7. Can my child wear a puffer jacket for skiing or snowboarding?** Yes. Many kids puffer jackets are suitable for winter sports, especially if they are waterproof or water-resistant and have a snug fit with a powder skirt or adjustable cuffs. Always ensure that the jacket doesn’t restrict movement. **8. How do I know if my child’s puffer jacket is the right fit?** Your child should be able to lift their arms comfortably and layer a sweater underneath without feeling cramped. Check that the sleeves cover the wrists fully, but the cuffs shouldn’t extend too far beyond the hands. **9. Are puffer jackets safe near campfires?** Synthetic materials can melt if exposed to direct flame or extreme heat, and down can singe as well. Supervise closely and maintain a safe distance from open flames. Consider using a fire-resistant blanket or keep them in a secure area away from sparks. **10. How should I store a kids puffer jacket during the off-season?** Avoid compressing it for long periods. Instead, hang the jacket in a closet or store it loosely in a breathable garment bag. $1 ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/c030bd8f34d2d0699ac133909e783553a875586502d845a4fa922fd39a96004f?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Mom Goes Camping [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/mom-goes-camping/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [Fire safety for kids](https://momgoescamping.com/fire-safety-for-kids/) **Published:** March 12, 2025 **Author:** Mom Goes Camping **Content:** ## Fire Safety for Kids: Teaching the Next Generation of Campers As a camping mom who’s spent countless nights under the stars, I’ve learned that there’s something magical about gathering around a campfire. Those flickering flames create what is known in Australia, as the bush telly! It is the perfect environment for sharing stories, roasting marshmallows, and making memories that will last a lifetime. But as parents, we also know that **fire demands respect** and careful handling. Fire also lets us cook our [favorite dessert](https://momgoescamping.com/campfire-desserts/). Teaching our kids about fire safety isn’t just about protection—it’s about empowering them with [knowledge and skills ](https://momgoescamping.com/make-fire-rain/)they’ll carry throughout their lives. After all, today’s little campers are tomorrow’s outdoor enthusiasts! [![camp fire kids safety](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/camp-fire-568x1024.jpg "campfire fire safety - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/camp-fire.jpg) ## Why Teaching Fire Safety Matters Children are naturally curious about fire. Those dancing flames are mesmerising, and the warmth they provide creates an instinctive attraction. Instead of simply keeping kids away from fires, I’ve found that educating them about fire—in age-appropriate ways—helps satisfy their curiosity while teaching them essential safety principles. When kids understand the basics of fire behavior, they’re better equipped to respect its power and understand why certain rules exist. This knowledge builds confidence and helps prevent dangerous situations down the road. ## Age-Appropriate Fire Safety Lessons ### For Toddlers and Preschoolers (Ages 2-5) For our littlest campers, keep lessons simple and direct: - Teach them that fire is “hot” and can hurt - Establish a clear “fire circle” boundary they must not cross without an adult. We often use our camp chairs as a ‘NO GO ZONE’. - Practice the “stop, drop, and roll” technique through playful demonstrations - Introduce the concept that matches and lighters are “tools for grown-ups only” At this stage, constant supervision around any fire is absolutely non-negotiable! Inside the camp chairs is a kids ‘NO GO Zone”. [![round fire camping chairs safety](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/Camping-Chairs-around-the-Firepit-300x225.jpg "Camping-Chairs-around-the-Firepit - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/Camping-Chairs-around-the-Firepit.jpg) ### For Elementary-Aged Kids (Ages 6-9) As kids grow, so can their understanding: - Explain how fire needs oxygen, fuel, and heat to exist (the fire triangle) - Teach them to recognize fire hazards around the campsite - Show them how to properly extinguish a small flame - Begin discussing what to do in emergency situations - Let them help gather appropriate firewood under supervision ### For Preteens and Teens (Ages 10-16) With older kids, you can introduce more hands-on learning: - Teach proper fire building techniques with close supervision - Demonstrate how to safely light matches and fire starters - Explain how different weather conditions affect fire behavior - Practice emergency response scenarios - Assign specific fire-related responsibilities at the campsite ## Our Family’s Fire Safety Rules Over the years, our family has developed a set of non-negotiable fire safety rules that have served us well: 1. **No unsupervised fire interaction** – Even our teenagers know that an adult must be present whenever the fire is lit. 2. **Establish a clear safety perimeter** – We set up a visible boundary around our campfire using our camping chairs. You can also use rocks or logs, and everyone knows not to play or run within this area. 3. **Keep firefighting tools handy** – We always have a bucket of water, shovel, and fire extinguisher within easy reach. 4. **Proper attire around fire** – No loose clothing, dangling strings, or synthetic materials that could melt. Shoes are a must. 5. **The “one-arm rule”** – When adding wood to the fire, kids must be able to place (not throw!) the wood without stepping into the safety perimeter. 6. **Never leave a fire unattended** – If we’re all heading to the lake or on a hike, the fire gets completely extinguished first. 7. **“Cool to touch” rule** – Before leaving a campsite, our fire pit must be cool enough to touch with a bare hand. ## Making Learning Fun Let’s be honest—safety rules aren’t exactly thrilling for most kids. That’s why I try to make fire safety education engaging: - Create a “Junior Fire Ranger” program with badges or certificates for mastering different skills - Tell stories about responsible fire use from different cultures and throughout history - Play fire safety games like “spot the hazard” around the campsite - Let kids help plan and build fire-safe fire pits - Practice building different types of campfires for different purposes ## Handling Emergency Situations Despite our best precautions, emergencies can happen. I make sure my kids know the basics: - How to recognize when a fire is getting out of control - When and how to call for adult help - Basic [first aid kit](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-first-aid-checklist/) for minor burns - The importance of “stop, drop, and roll” if clothing catches fire - How to safely evacuate a campsite if necessary We practice these scenarios occasionally, keeping the tone serious but not scary. Preparation builds confidence! ## A Lifelong Skill Teaching fire safety isn’t just about camping trips. The knowledge and respect for fire that kids develop through these outdoor experiences translate to everyday life. Whether they’re helping with the backyard BBQ or understanding why candle safety matters at home, these lessons create a foundation of responsibility. I’ve found that kids who learn proper fire safety become more confident, careful, and capable in all sorts of situations. Plus, there’s something deeply satisfying about watching your child confidently (and safely) help build the evening campfire that will warm your family’s gathering spot under the stars. Remember, our goal isn’t to make kids fearful of fire, but to help them understand and respect this powerful element that has brought humanity together for thousands of years. When we teach fire safety with patience and enthusiasm, we’re passing down not just knowledge, but a treasured part of our outdoor heritage. Happy (and safe) camping! ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/c030bd8f34d2d0699ac133909e783553a875586502d845a4fa922fd39a96004f?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Mom Goes Camping [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/mom-goes-camping/) **Categories:** Camping Safety --- ### [The Best Tick Removal Tools for Humans](https://momgoescamping.com/tick-removal-tools-humans/) **Published:** January 31, 2018 **Author:** Diane **Content:** In the outdoors, I’m not afraid of [snakes](https://momgoescamping.com/what-to-do-if-you-see-a-snake/) or [bears](https://momgoescamping.com/bear-safety/) and definitely not insects. But I’ll admit it: ticks absolutely freak me out. I’ve had Lyme disease before, and it is no joke. The good news is that, if you remove a tick properly within 24 hours of it biting you, there is almost no chance of Lyme transmission. Because of this, I started carrying a tick removal tool with me at all times. I have one in [my hiking first aid kit](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-first-aid-kit-checklist/), and a mini one in my wallet so I can remove ticks immediately. However, to prevent Lyme transmission, it’s important you remove the tick properly. This means using the right tick removal tool. Here’s what you need to know about tick removal tools and some of the best options for humans. ## Quick Picks: The [Majestic Pointed-Tip Tweezers](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BAYWOFY/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=mgc-tick-tools-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00BAYWOFY&linkId=960fb46c492d0465dbff74ae6fbbcb24) and [BugBiteThing](https://amzn.to/40HWssd) can be used to remove nymph and adult ticks. If you spend a lot of time outdoors, consider keeping these [mini tweezers](https://amzn.to/4bscusC) in your wallet or the [Tick Patrol tool](https://amzn.to/3KuACPs) on your keychain so you always have a way to safely remove ticks quickly. [![backpacking first aid kit tweezers tick](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/hiking-first-aid-kit.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BAYWOFY/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=mgc-tick-tools-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00BAYWOFY&linkId=960fb46c492d0465dbff74ae6fbbcb24)The Majestic Tweezers in my hiking first aid kit. ## Why You Need to Remove Ticks ASAP In addition to Lyme disease, ticks can transmit many other diseases. The CDC website currently [lists](https://www.cdc.gov/ticks/diseases/index.html) 16 different tick-borne illnesses. Scary, right? The good news is that ticks usually don’t start to feed right away. It usually takes 12-24 hours for the tick to start feeding on you. **If you remove a tick within 24 hours, there is very little chance of contracting disease.** ## How to Remove a Tick 1. Gently spread the skin back. This makes it easier to access the tick’s mouthparts. 2. Using a tick tool, grasp the tick as close to its mouthparts as possible. 3. Pull straight upwards to remove the tick. Do not twist or jerk the tick. Do not try to “unscrew” it. 4. Dispose of the live tick by soaking it in alcohol or sealing it in a bag and throwing it away. Never crush a live tick with your fingers. This could release pathogens. 5. After removing the tick, clean the bite area and your hands with alcohol, iodine, or soap and water. [![how to remove a tick instructions](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/how-to-remove-a-tick-1.jpg)](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/how-to-remove-a-tick-1.jpg) ### DO NOT - **Touch the tick with hot match/fire** - **Use peppermint oil or any other essential oils** - **Apply petroleum jelly** - **Submerse the tick in alcohol** - **Try to suffocate the tick** - **Squeeze the tick’s body** - **Twist the tick** **Anything that squeezes or irritates the tick can cause the tick to regurgitate its stomach contents into your skin, thus increasing the likelihood that it will transmit disease.** This is actually how I got Lyme disease. I accidentally squeezed the body of a nymph tick while removing it (they are tiny!). It was only attached for an hour or so, but squeezing it was enough to get the Lyme bacteria into my body. ![Engorged ticks after removal](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/tick-4.jpg)Engorged ticks after removal. If done properly, the tick should still be alive after you remove it. ## Types of Tick Removal Tools Tick removal tools can be broken down into four types: tweezers, V-shaped tools/tick keys, twist tools, and tick lassos. Some are much more effective than others. Here’s what you need to know. ### Tweezers (Recommended for All Ticks) The CDC recommends removing ticks with fine-tipped tweezers, such as ones designed for ingrown hair. The pointy tips make it easier to grab the tick by its mouth parts. It is also the only way to safely remove a nymph tick because they are so tiny. Unfortunately, flat-tipped tweezers (such as for plucking eyebrows) don’t work well for tick removal. You can end up accidentally squeezing the tick’s body, thus pushing its stomach contents into your skin. ![tiny ticks](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/tiny-ticks.jpg)Larval and nymph ticks are tiny. You need pointy tweezers to remove them safely. ### V-Shaped Tools/Tick Keys (Recommended for Adult and Engorged Ticks) To use a V-shaped tick tools, you slide the tool along the tick so its head is caught in the V, then you pull upwards. This makes it very easy to grasp a tick properly. They are especially useful for removing ticks from little kids who won’t sit still. However, **V-shaped tools don’t work on nymph ticks**. Those ticks are too small for the tool to grasp the tick well. ### Twist Tools (Not Recommended) **Ticks do NOT have screw-shaped mouth parts. You cannot unscrew them.** The best way to remove a tick is pulling straight up. Despite this, there is still a lot of misinformation stating that twisting a tick will cause its jaws to unlatch. Many popular tick removal tools (such as the O’Tom Tick Twister) are based on this idea. These can be dangerous. As warned about [here](https://www.aafp.org/afp/2002/0815/p643.html), twisting a tick can cause the head to break off in your skin and cause infectious fluids to escape. ![Ticks don't have screw-shaped mouths, so you can't unscrew them!](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/tick-1.jpg)Ticks don’t have screw-shaped mouths, so you can’t “unscrew” them. ### Tick Lassos (Not Recommended) These tools have a little string “lasso” which you put around the tick. Then you pull the lasso around the tick mouth parts and pull. These tools make it easy to remove ticks in difficult places, such as on top of the head. They also make it easy to remove ticks from squirmy children. The problem is that tick lasso tools don’t pull straight upwards, so there is an increased chance of the tick head remaining in the skin. Lasso tools also don’t seem to work as well on tiny nymph ticks or ticks which aren’t engorged yet. ## The Best Tick Removal Tools Here are some of the best tick removal tools that are actually safe for human use. Remember, a tick removal tool only works if you have it with you. For that reason, my #1 pick is Tick Patrol because it can be carried on your keychain or in your wallet. However, it won’t remove nymph ticks so I also keep a pair of needle-nose tweezers (#2 or #3) in [my hiking first aid kit](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-first-aid-kit-checklist/). These tweezers aren’t practical for everyday carry but do a much better job of removing tiny ticks safely. ### 1. [Tick Patrol Keychain Removal Tool](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08YH89PDB/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=mgc-tick-tools-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08YH89PDB&linkId=931bca2b751f4d7f4e2d5c66f6b9f022) ![tick patrol removal tool](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/tick-patrol-copy.jpg) The reason I like this tick removal tool is because it can be attached to your keychain, which means you are more likely to actually have it on you when you notice a tick bite. It’s wide design makes it easy to hold. The shape is suitable for ticks on humans or pets. - **Pros:** Can carry it on your keychain; easy to use; works on humans and animals - **Cons:** Doesn’t remove nymph ticks well - **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08YH89PDB/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=mgc-tick-tools-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08YH89PDB&linkId=931bca2b751f4d7f4e2d5c66f6b9f022)** --- ### 2. [Majestic Tweezers](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BAYWOFY/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=mgc-tick-tools-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00BAYWOFY&linkId=960fb46c492d0465dbff74ae6fbbcb24) ![Majestic tweezers](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/majestic-tweezers.jpg) These tweezers are what I keep in [my hiking first aid kit](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-first-aid-kit-checklist/). Even though they are marketed for removing ingrown hairs, they are perfect for removing ticks as well as splinters. The pointy end makes it very easy to grasp ticks near their mouthparts. You can even grasp nymph ticks without a problem. The only real downside with using these tweezers for tick removal is that they are SHARP. They do come with a cap and a little tube that you can use for storage. Make sure you don’t lose the cap or the tweezers will poke a hole in your first aid kit. - **Pros:** Removes nymph ticks as well as adults; also great for removing splinters - **Cons:** Large; easy to lose cap; can’t carry on keychain - **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BAYWOFY/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=mgc-tick-tools-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00BAYWOFY&linkId=960fb46c492d0465dbff74ae6fbbcb24)** --- ### 3. [TickEase](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KI1I7BU/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=mgc-tick-tools-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00KI1I7BU&linkId=71df26973a6e2d31b9903e5d01198fb9) ![TickEase tick removal tool](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/tickease.jpg) This tick removal tool is double sided. One side has very fine, pointy tips for grasping ticks at the head. You can even get nymph ticks with them. The other side of the tool has the V-shaped scoop for removing adult or engorged ticks easier. This makes it the perfect tool if you have pets or squirmy kids. The tool comes with a cap but, like with most pointy tweezers, they are hard to carry with you on the go. - **Pros:** Can use on adult or nymph ticks; V tool makes removal easier - **Cons:** Large, easy to lose cap; can’t carry on keychain - **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KI1I7BU/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=mgc-tick-tools-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00KI1I7BU&linkId=71df26973a6e2d31b9903e5d01198fb9)** --- ### 4. [TickCheck Tool](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075DKL3Z6/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=mgc-tick-tools-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B075DKL3Z6&linkId=5ca3fbb3d88bd3ce4b9e15dcc279f443) ![tickCheck tick removal tool set](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/tick-check.jpg) This is a set of two tick removal tools: one fine-point tweezer and a V-shaped tool. They come in a handy carrying case and also comes with a tick identification card. The handles on the tools are wider, so it does make it slightly easier to hold the tool. - **Pros:** Two tools in set; carrying case, thick handles for good grip - **Cons:** Bulky to carry around with you - **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075DKL3Z6/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=mgc-tick-tools-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B075DKL3Z6&linkId=5ca3fbb3d88bd3ce4b9e15dcc279f443)** --- ### 5. [Tick Nipper](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QTXNCGF/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=mgc-tick-tools-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07QTXNCGF&linkId=a5a2e1d52435c402950601edfeb516bb) ![Tick Nipper tool](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/tick-nipper.png) This tick removal tool has a slot that you use to grab the tick. Just pull upwards to remove the tick, head and all. The scoop will catch the tick, so you don’t risk dropping it. The good thing about this tool is that it allows you to securely grasp the tick at the right spot without risk of cutting off the head by mistake. It also has a built-in magnifying glass which you can use to look for ticks on your body or make sure you got all of the tick out. - **Pros:** Good for people with unsteady hands; magnifying glass - **Cons:** Doesn’t work very well on nymph ticks - **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QTXNCGF/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=mgc-tick-tools-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07QTXNCGF&linkId=a5a2e1d52435c402950601edfeb516bb)** --- ### 6. [Uncle Bill’s Sliver Gripper](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003Q1EGUA/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=mgc-tick-tools-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B003Q1EGUA&linkId=7042970fef7f3286e1ed89976a27da11) ![sliver gripper tick removal tool](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/sliver-gripper.jpeg) These tweezers are great because they have a nice pointy end for grasping ticks. The lid cover means they also are suitable for EDC (everyday carry). While I still find it easier to use the Majestic Tweezers above, these are way easier to carry with you. - **Pros:** Good for adult and nymph ticks; has cap, can put on keychain - **Cons:** Pointy end not very precise - **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003Q1EGUA/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=mgc-tick-tools-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B003Q1EGUA&linkId=7042970fef7f3286e1ed89976a27da11)** --- ### 7. [Mini Tweezer Set](https://amzn.to/4bscusC) Because I don’t always have my first aid kit with me, I got a pair of these miniature pointed-tip tweezers and keep them in my wallet (they come in a set; the flat-tipped ones aren’t suitable for removing ticks). This way I always have a pair of tweezers on me. They are cheap and admittedly kind of crappy, but the ends line up well enough and they get the job done. [Revlon](https://amzn.to/4bpvHv3) also makes mini tweezers that come with a carrying case. - **Pros:** Only 2.5 inches long; fits in a wallet; good for adult and nymph ticks - **Cons:** No cap; not as precise as the Majestic tweezers - **[Buy Here](https://amzn.to/4bscusC)** ![mini tick tweezers in wallet](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/mini-tick-tweezers-in-wallet.jpg)Here’s what the tweezers look like in my wallet. Yes, my wallet is dorky but it has lots of pockets 🙂 ## What If the Head Gets Stuck in the Skin? ![tick head stuck in skin](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/tick-head-stuck-in-skin.jpg) If you use the tick removal tool properly, the head should come out of the bite point. However, even when pulled out properly, the tick head can still break off and get stuck in your skin. To remove a stuck tick head, you can try to dig it out like you would a splinter (you’ve got a safety pin in your [camping first aid kit](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-first-aid-checklist/), right?) However, this is actually a lot harder than you’d think. The little barbs on the tick mouth parts get deeply embedded into the skin. I recently had a tick head get stuck in my skin. It caused a surprising amount of inflammation around the bite site. The tick head eventually came out on its own, but it took two weeks. **Read about [how to remove a stuck tick head](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-remove-a-tick-head-stuck-in-your-skin/) here.** ## Keep a Watch for Lyme Disease ![Lyme's disease rash](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/tick-2.jpg) In 70-80% of cases of Lyme disease, people will develop a rash on the site of the tick bite. The rash usually occurs an average of 7 days after the bite, but can be as soon as 3 days or as late as 30 days. Note that the rash isn’t always a bull’s eye shape. Be on the lookout for *any rash*, especially a rash which is spreading. When I got Lyme disease, it was *not* in a bull’s-eye shape. **See [pictures of Lyme disease rashes](https://momgoescamping.com/lyme-disease-rash-photos/).** ## Preventing Lyme Disease After Being Bit Unless you send each tick which bites you off for testing, you won’t know for sure whether you might have gotten Lyme disease. Basically you have to wait, watch for a rash (which not everyone gets), and hope you don’t get sick. **Also read: [First Symptoms of Lyme Disease](https://momgoescamping.com/first-symptoms-lyme-disease/)** ### What About Extractor Tools? Extractor tools are designed to suck venom out of your skin. They are usually used for snake bites, scorpion bites, and bee stings, but many people use them after getting bit by a tick. There’s not much evidence they actually reduce the likelihood of Lyme disease, but they definitely don’t hurt. [This one](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074CN58RV/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=mgc-tick-tools-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B074CN58RV&linkId=95521c929a59a1d16f0b8c1debc569d4) is popular and cheap. ## Tick Removal Tool FAQ What is the safest way to remove a tick? Grasp the tick as close to its mouthparts as possible using fine-tipped pointed tweezers, then pull straight up with steady, even pressure. Don’t twist, jerk, or squeeze the tick’s body — this can cause it to release fluids into the bite. Never try to remove a tick with heat, petroleum jelly, or essential oils. After removal, clean the bite area with alcohol or soap and water. What do you do after removing a tick? Dispose of the tick by sealing it in a bag or soaking it in alcohol — never crush it with your fingers. Clean the bite area with alcohol, iodine, or soap and water. Then keep a close eye on the bite site for the next 30 days. A spreading rash — not necessarily a bull’s eye — can appear anywhere from 3 to 30 days after the bite and should be evaluated by a doctor promptly. *Resources: LymeNet Europe, [ThoughtCo](https://www.thoughtco.com/wrong-ways-to-remove-a-tick-1968605), [CDC](https://www.cdc.gov/ticks/removing_a_tick.html)* *Image credits: “Tick \| Zecke \| Flått” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Pw95](https://www.flickr.com/people/wen95/), “Bullseye” ([CC BY-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/2.0/)) by [fairfaxcounty](https://www.flickr.com/people/fairfaxcounty/), “Eat Me!” ([CC BY-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/2.0/)) by [DrPhotoMoto](https://www.flickr.com/people/drphotomoto/), “Deer Tick (Ixodes scapularis)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Goshzilla – Dann](https://www.flickr.com/people/goshzilla/), “Deer Tick Bite 3” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [chrismek](https://www.flickr.com/people/chrismek/), “Juvenile Deer Ticks” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [NIAID](https://www.flickr.com/people/niaid/)* ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety --- ### [Bear Repellents: What Works and What Doesn’t](https://momgoescamping.com/bear-repellent/) **Published:** November 21, 2024 **Author:** Diane **Content:** While your chances of getting attacked or killed by a bear are incredibly low, that doesn’t mean the risk doesn’t exist. Bears are becoming more habituated to humans, meaning that they lose their natural fear of humans. Thus, it’s become even more important to use bear repellents when in bear country. There are a lot of options for bear repellents. Some are proven to work whereas other repellents are actually *not* recommended in bear country. If you are not sure what bear repellent to bring, here’s what the research says about which ones actually work. ## What’s the Best Bear Repellent? The Quick Answer The best bear repellent is to make noise while hiking or camping so bears are alerted to your presence and leave before an encounter occurs. If you do *see* a bear and it doesn’t go away, then you can use an air horn or other noisemakers to scare it away. This doesn’t always work though, so be sure to have your bear spray ready to use in case of an attack. **Also Read: [Bear Safety Outdoors: How to Get It Right](https://momgoescamping.com/bear-safety/)** --- **Want gourmet meals on the trail?** My dehydrator recipes ebook has 50+ calorie-dense backpacking recipes, just add hot water and you’ve got a real meal. **[Get It Here!](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck)** --- ## Which Bear Repellents Are Effective? Below are the most common bear repellents and what scientific research and experts have to say about whether they are effective. ### Talking or Singing **Verdict:** Effective The vast majority of injuries from bear attacks occur from sudden encounters, particularly with females and their cubs.1, 2 Basically, the bears get startled and react defensively. Talking or singing alerts the bear to your presence will drastically reduce the chances of having an encounter at all. Virtually all bear experts, park rangers and other authorities on bear safety agree that talking is effective at repelling bears. If you are alone, go ahead and start talking to the trees while you hike. **Random personal note:** The first time I hiked in bear country alone, it was really awkward to talk to myself. I ended up singing “Oh Susanna” as I hiked and felt slightly crazy. But it’s better to feel crazy than have a bear encounter! --- ### Bear Bells **Verdict:** Maybe effective but not recommended The idea behind bear bells is that, like talking, the sound will alert the bear so it is not taken by surprise and thus less likely to attack. There is some limited evidence that shows they are effective. In one study, hikers wearing bears bells were just as likely to see a bear as hikers not wearing bells. However, the bear was much more likely to move away from the hikers wearing bells. By contrast, the bears were more likely to stand their ground or attack hikers without bells. Despite this, bells are generally *not* recommended as a bear repellent. As [one study](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1080603299708483) pointed out, “Bells worn on clothing or on a backpack make minimal noise, do not carry, and are ineffective near rushing streams or under other noisy conditions.” You’d have to use very loud bear bells for them to be effective, and it would be incredibly annoying to listen to bells dinging as you hike! Some national parks even *discourage* the use of bells since some bears have become conditioned to associate the sound of them with the presence of food in a backpack.3 Hence the joke, “How do you tell grizzly poop from black bear poop? Grizzly poop has little bells in it.” --- ### Music **Verdict:** Not recommended There is absolutely no evidence that playing music acts as a bear deterrent. True, it might prevent you from startling a bear by alerting it to your presence. But, even if this is the case, it is against the principles of Leave No Trace to play loud music in the outdoors! --- ### Air Horn **Verdict:** Effective Air horns are an effective bear repellent. In one [study](https://www.jstor.org/stable/3872649), they were even effective in repelling *polar bears* 81% of the time! Air horns are generally only used *after* you’ve seen a bear. You do *not* want to blast an air horn as you hike as this would be incredibly annoying to other hikers, and possibly also cause them to think that there is a bear in the area. However, some campers do fire off air horns before leaving their tents to scare away any bears which might be at the campsite. To use an air horn effectively, you should fire it in quick bursts so the bear (or other animal) knows where you are. It’s worth noting though that some bears aren’t scared off by the sound of air horns. While it hasn’t happened to me, I’ve heard lots of stories about bears lingering even when the campers repeatedly blast air horns or banged on pots and pans. It just goes to show how habituated some bears are becoming to human presence and why you need a defense (bear spray) in addition to bear repellent. [![bear air horn](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/bear-air-horn.jpg)](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F179656%2Ffrontiersman-bear-horn)*Frontiersman Bear Horn, [available at REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F179656%2Ffrontiersman-bear-horn)* --- ### Bear Bangers **Verdict:** Sometimes recommended Bear bangers are a fairly new form of bear repellent. They are basically small explosives that you set off if you see a bear. The idea is that the banger will scare the bear away. While some parks and rangers do recommend bear bangers, Parks Canada does *not* recommend them. They say that using bear bangers could put you in more danger. It’s not easy to accurately throw when you are terrified during a bear encounter. **The banger might explode behind the bear which could send the bear running in your direction.** Or the bear might become so scared that it reacts by attacking instead of running away. There are also incidences of people getting injured from bear bangers.4 If you are going to use bear bangers, make sure you practice with them first! --- ### Ultrasonic Bear Repellents **Verdict:** Not recommended Ultrasonic bear repellents blast out a frequency which is inaudible to the human ear but bears can still hear. The idea is that the sound will alert bears to your presence or scare them away. Because these devices are silent, they are preferable to wearing annoying bells. There is some evidence that ultrasound bear repellents work. However, these studies were done with huge speakers. It’s not practical to bring this gear around hiking or even car camping. And it’s not clear whether smaller, portable ultrasonic bear repellant actually work. Effectiveness aside, it’s also possible that ultrasonic noise could be bad for your health. Even though you can’t hear it, the frequencies can cause headache, nausea and other bad side effects.5 --- ### Ammonia **Verdict:** Maybe effective Ammonia has a very strong smell that bears dislike. You can use it as a bear repellant at your campsite. Just put some ammonia in a spray bottle and spray it around the perimeter of camp. Or, to minimize environmental damage, you can set a few cups of ammonia around the campsite. While bears definitely don’t like ammonia, there is little evidence that ammonia will keep away bears away from food. In one study, bear bait was sprayed with ammonia. Yet the ammonia didn’t keep the bears away any longer compared to the control bait. Despite this, ammonia is still recommended by the Forest Service and other agencies as a good bear repellant. One thing you definitely don’t want to do is spray a bear with ammonia. Ammonia is very strong and can destroy the bear’s nasal passage. The bear then won’t be able to sniff out the food, meaning you’ve essentially killed the bear.6, 7, 8 --- ### Electric Bear Fencing **Verdict:** Very effective While obviously not useful for hiking, electric bear fences are proven to be effective in keeping bears away. They’ve been used as far back as 1913 in Yellowstone to keep bears out of trash areas. They are also regularly used by beekeepers and farmers to keep out bears. One study found electric fencing nearly as effective as bear canisters in keeping bear away from bait.9 Electric bear fences don’t actually harm the bear (or any person who happens to come in contact). Instead, they give the bear an unpleasant jolt and thus discourages it from seeking food in human areas. The fences are sometimes used to prevent bears from becoming food-conditioned.10 The brand [UDAP sells a portable electric bear fence](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001QGXNCY/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B001QGXNCY&linkId=9b1c4910b81451b318a615c2e7cbcdc4). They have an ultralight model (3.7lbs) which runs on two D batteries. The batteries will keep the fence charged for about 5 weeks. *Even if you get an electric bear fence, you still need to practice good bear avoidance habits. Never keep food or other bear attractants in your tent or around your campsite.* --- ### Strobe Lights **Verdict:** Not recommended A lot of people recommend shining strobe lights at bears to scare them away or putting motion-sensor ultra-bright strobe lights around camp to keep bears out. There is very little evidence that strobe lights are effect bear repellants though, especially in the long term. One study on captive bears found that strobe lights didn’t affect the bears at all. A different study did find that motion-sensor strobe lights kept bears and some other animals away from deer carcasses. However, those lights were also accompanied by noises so it’s not clear whether the noise or light or combination of them scared the bears away. On the flip side, there is plenty of anecdotal evidence of bears getting pissed off from strobe lights. Because who loves having an annoying light shone in their eyes? Even if strobe lights do repel bears, it isn’t likely to last for long. The bears will quickly realize the light isn’t linked to anything harmful and will stop being deterred by it. For these reasons, strobe lights aren’t recommended as a bear deterrent. If you want to use motion-sensor lights around your campground, just get normal lights. The light will alert you to any wildlife intruders wandering around camp so you can start sounding your air horn and get your bear spray ready.11, 12, 13, 14, 15 --- ### Dogs **Verdict:** Not recommended Hiking or camping with your dog will not keep bears away. On the contrary, **your dog puts you at a higher risk of having a bear encounter or attack**, especially if you let the dog off the leash. Dogs are known to do things like chase bear cubs or even threaten adult bears, which in turn can lead to attacks.16 --- ### Whistle **Verdict:** Not recommended Blowing a whistle as you hike down a trail will alert bears to your presence, thus reducing the risk of startling a bear. A very loud whistle can also be used to scare away bears if you encounter one. However, it is still generally a bad idea to use a whistle as a bear repellant. The reason is because **whistles are meant to signal that you are in danger**. So, if you start blowing your whistle like crazy, a nearby hiker might rush to help you, thus putting them at risk of running right into a bear. Save the whistles for true emergencies. Stick to loud talking instead and, if you actually see a bear, then shout or start blasting that air horn. *Yes, you are supposed to use three short blasts on the whistle to signal you need help. But a lot of novice hiker don’t know this, so someone could rush to see if you need help.* --- ### Bear Spray **Verdict:** Very effective Bear spray is often incorrectly called a repellent or deterrent. You do *not* want to do things like spray around your campsite with bear spray. Nor do you want to spray it on your backpack before hiking. The lingering smell of bear spray can actually attract bears! Really, **bear spray should be used as a self-defense item**. If a bear starts to charge and attack, you spray it in the bear’s face. Bear spray is proven to stop bears from attacking. There are really no good [bear spray alternatives](https://momgoescamping.com/bear-spray-alternatives/). Note that **bear spray is useless if you aren’t ready to deploy it when needed**. Keep bear spray in holster or somewhere else it can be reached within a second’s notice. And make sure you’ve actually practiced grabbing the bear spray and removing the safety. *UDAP, CounterAssault, Frontiersman and Guard Alaska are all good brands of bear spray. You can get them [at Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=37ddc2765113f8021e7d2d1573fe9d82&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=sporting&keywords=bear%20spray) or [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fc%2Fbear-spray).* **Also read: [How to Use Bear Spray](https://momgoescamping.com/bear-spray/)** ## Bear Horn vs Bear Spray: Which Should You Carry? Carry both, but understand what each is for. **Bear horn:** A deterrent. Use it when you see a bear that hasn’t attacked yet. Blast it in short bursts to scare the bear away before a confrontation. It works 81% of the time on non-habituated bears. It won’t stop a charging bear. **Bear spray:** A defense. Use it only when a bear is actively charging and within 30-60 feet. Spray a cloud directly at the bear’s face. It’s proven to stop attacks and is more effective than firearms in bear encounters. The reason to carry both: horns sometimes work, spray is the backup when they don’t. A habituated bear that ignores your air horn is exactly the situation where you need bear spray ready. Never rely on one without the other in serious bear country. ## Do You Need Repellents for Black Bears? Compared to brown bears, black bears are much less aggressive and usually won’t charge or attack people. Because of this, many people say that you do not need to carry repellent when in black bear country. However, because black bears are much more common than brown bears, the **statistics show that you are just as likely to be attacked by a black bear than a brown bear.** Thus, it is smart to carry bear repellent in black bear country and not just in grizzly territory. ## Bear Repellent FAQ: ### What is the most effective bear repellent? The most effective bear repellent is simply making noise, talking, singing, or clapping as you hike so bears hear you coming and leave before an encounter happens. If you actually see a bear that won’t leave, an air horn is the next most effective option. Bear spray is the most effective defense against an actual attack, but it’s not a repellent, don’t spray it around camp or on your gear. ### Does bear spray repel bears if you spray it around camp? No, and doing this can actually attract bears. The capsaicin in bear spray degrades into a residue that bears find interesting rather than repellent. Only use bear spray as a direct defense during an attack, aimed directly at the bear’s face. ## Bear Repellents Aren’t a Substitute to Smart Camping Practices Even if you have a full arsenal of bear repellents, you should still practice bear-smart camping techniques. This includes things like making sure you don’t leave scented items in camp and disposing of waste properly. **For more info, read this post on [how to keep bears out of your campsite](https://momgoescamping.com/keep-bears-away-campsite/).** *Image credit:”[Got our bear spray…](https://www.flickr.com/photos/dvs/35785159995/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [sf-dvs](https://www.flickr.com/people/dvs/)* ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety **Tags:** bears --- ### [Best Budget Backpacking Tents 2026: Cheap 2-Person Picks That Hold Up](https://momgoescamping.com/cheap-ultralight-tents/) **Published:** December 3, 2024 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I have a love/hate relationship with ultralight tents and backpacking gear. On one side, I hate how snobbish some people are about gear. Not everyone can shell out hundreds of dollars for UL gear, and they shouldn’t be made to feel bad for using whatever gear they can afford. On the other hand, I’m a 110lb woman who goes backpacking with my young daughter. Any weight I can shed from my pack is going to make the trip easier and more enjoyable. Since we go backpacking often, it is worth it to invest in an ultralight tent. However, there are actually a lot of great light tents out there which don’t cost a fortune. They don’t have the brand-name recognition as some others, but are still reliable. ## Are Cheap Ultralight Tents Actually Worth It? Short answer: yes *if* you buy carefully. The myth that you need to spend $400+ on a Big Agnes or NEMO to get a reliable ultralight tent just isn’t true anymore. I’ve backpacked with my Naturehike Cloud Up for over seven years, through thunderstorms and even a hailstorm, and it’s held up better than tents costing three times as much. But “cheap” and “good” only overlap when you know what to look for. The budget tents that fail are the ones with untaped seams, mystery-brand materials, no bathtub floor, and listed weights that don’t include the poles and stakes. The ones that last like the picks below come from brands that have been user-tested for years, even if they don’t have big-name recognition. The real risk isn’t spending too little. It’s buying an untested no-name tent that soaks you on night one, so you end up rebuying anyway. Buy carefully and a cheap UL tent is one of the best values in backpacking. ### Top Pick: [Naturehike Cloud Up](https://www.amazon.com/Naturehike-Cloud-Up-Lightweight-Backpacking-Footprint/dp/B0D31F6PBB?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.9Aint1biSbMzh3-B7PQC7dqSMU9mIsIC4DXnZeSnw19y4Rth5d1nxOFx3A7ZaYNOhTCfSQ0W1H7b_ZgDW_Go7M9fA-3Knm535eGQjhVLQSA_CY3_SVMZ21gEyVl9IweSvmXPMNXTOV-mULzms5G7u8mj1ou0KfAoVBv4FSubT-PSjmMmoStuVxQCRY12lxZ1fNl2AsnuROJ_dobYrjrTqZRq77OM6iMjLFA7vWDIgZnTJd_b2P3gls001GZTdhYG6Fe29i8IK0U9SZd55YSzGgSS5JLTF06RvHAp9WXpsfQ.dbMzeyqGafcVWRCBbUi7C96XEPI1KrsgU996o0qhpaw&dib_tag=se&keywords=naturehike%2Bcloudup&qid=1733264687&s=sporting-goods&sr=1-5&th=1&linkCode=sl2&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=59d21dbb29fe2590d11c916b8dd253cb&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) The Naturehike Cloud Up 2 weighs just 3.75lbs with all extras included. Despite being so cheap, the tent is surprisingly durable and holds up in bad weather. (I’ve been using it for 7+ years now!) It also comes in a 1p and 3p size. **You can [get it here](https://www.amazon.com/Naturehike-Cloud-Up-Lightweight-Backpacking-Footprint/dp/B0D31F6PBB?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.9Aint1biSbMzh3-B7PQC7dqSMU9mIsIC4DXnZeSnw19y4Rth5d1nxOFx3A7ZaYNOhTCfSQ0W1H7b_ZgDW_Go7M9fA-3Knm535eGQjhVLQSA_CY3_SVMZ21gEyVl9IweSvmXPMNXTOV-mULzms5G7u8mj1ou0KfAoVBv4FSubT-PSjmMmoStuVxQCRY12lxZ1fNl2AsnuROJ_dobYrjrTqZRq77OM6iMjLFA7vWDIgZnTJd_b2P3gls001GZTdhYG6Fe29i8IK0U9SZd55YSzGgSS5JLTF06RvHAp9WXpsfQ.dbMzeyqGafcVWRCBbUi7C96XEPI1KrsgU996o0qhpaw&dib_tag=se&keywords=naturehike%2Bcloudup&qid=1733264687&s=sporting-goods&sr=1-5&th=1&linkCode=sl2&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=59d21dbb29fe2590d11c916b8dd253cb&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl). Or [read my full review of it here](https://momgoescamping.com/naturehike-cloudup-2-review/).** [![naturehike-cloud-up-2-review](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/naturehike-cloud-up-2-review.jpg)](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/naturehike-cloud-up-2-review.jpg) ## Warning before You Buy a Cheap Ultralight Tent Most brand-name ultralight tents (like Big Agnes, MSR and NEMO) cost a small fortune. However, there are lots of generic brands which make cheap ultralight tents. You need to be very careful when buying from generic brands though! **Potential issues with generic tent brands:** - The listed weight often doesn’t match the actual weight - Seams might not be taped - The materials could be complete crap - Waterproof level might be very low - No bathtub floor - The weight of the groundsheet and stakes often isn’t included. - Terrible or non-existent refund policy **If you buy a cheap tent which fails on you, then you’ve just wasted money.** You could end up spending more than if you’d shelled out for a pricier ultralight tent (hence the phrase “I’m not rich enough to buy cheap gear”). So, read reviews carefully before buying a cheap tent and don’t buy from new brands which aren’t user-tested! **Pro Tip: You can often get great deals on last-season’s UL tents at [REI Outlet](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Frei-garage%2Fc%2Ftents).** ## Best Cheap Ultralight Tents When looking for low-cost ultralight tents, I used these parameters: - **Priced under $200** - **Under 4lbs for 1-person tents** - **Under 5lbs for 2-person tents** - **3 Season** - **2-layer design or 1-layer hybrid** - **Reputable brands** *\*The weights listed are for TOTAL WEIGHT with all pegs, mats, poles, and groundsheet.* ### 1. [Naturehike Cloud Up](https://www.amazon.com/Naturehike-Cloud-Up-Lightweight-Backpacking-Footprint/dp/B0D31F6PBB?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.9Aint1biSbMzh3-B7PQC7dqSMU9mIsIC4DXnZeSnw19y4Rth5d1nxOFx3A7ZaYNOhTCfSQ0W1H7b_ZgDW_Go7M9fA-3Knm535eGQjhVLQSA_CY3_SVMZ21gEyVl9IweSvmXPMNXTOV-mULzms5G7u8mj1ou0KfAoVBv4FSubT-PSjmMmoStuVxQCRY12lxZ1fNl2AsnuROJ_dobYrjrTqZRq77OM6iMjLFA7vWDIgZnTJd_b2P3gls001GZTdhYG6Fe29i8IK0U9SZd55YSzGgSS5JLTF06RvHAp9WXpsfQ.dbMzeyqGafcVWRCBbUi7C96XEPI1KrsgU996o0qhpaw&dib_tag=se&keywords=naturehike%2Bcloudup&qid=1733264687&s=sporting-goods&sr=1-5&th=1&linkCode=sl2&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=59d21dbb29fe2590d11c916b8dd253cb&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) (1p, 2p, 3p) **Verdict:** Best overall for weight, price and durability [![naturehike cloud up 3 review](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/naturehike-cloud-up-3-review.jpg)](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/naturehike-cloud-up-3-review.jpg)The Cloudup 3P (without fly) next to the Cloudup 2p. This was on a backpacking trip with my daughter and her friend. This is the tent that I have. I originally got the 2p tent for my daughter and me. It held up so well (I’ve been using it for 7+ years now) that I got the 3p version after having my other kid. Considering how cheap and lightweight it is, the Cloud Up has held up amazingly well. It’s even kept me dry in some serious thunderstorms and a hail storm once! The Cloud Up almost seemed too good to be true. The 2-person tent only weighs 3.75lbs with the footprint and all extras. It has a waterproof flysheet of 4000mm and the floor is also 4000mm. The poles were a bit weird at first, they splay out very wide when pitching and it might be difficult in a tight spot. But pitching is fast and easy. My only real complaints are that: the walls sag a bit and that you are supposed to sleep with your feet towards the door (which I don’t). It’s also a tight fit inside. My daughter and I fit fine in the 2P but, if you are larger, then you’ll want the 3P for two people. *\*Note that there are different versions of the Cloud Up tent. The GRAY tents are lighter weight. \*\*It’s possible to pitch just the groundsheet and fly of the tent without the mesh interior. This setup is even lighter.* **Specs:** - **Total Pack Weight:** 3.2lbs (1p), 3.75lbs (2p), 5.29lbs (3p) - **Interior Dimensions:** 83x39x40″ (1p); 83x50x40″ (2p); 85x71x43″ (3p) - **Vestibule** - **20D rain fly and bathtub floor** - **Other:** Some pockets, lantern hook - **[See It Here](https://www.amazon.com/Naturehike-Cloud-Up-Lightweight-Backpacking-Footprint/dp/B0D31F6PBB?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.9Aint1biSbMzh3-B7PQC7dqSMU9mIsIC4DXnZeSnw19y4Rth5d1nxOFx3A7ZaYNOhTCfSQ0W1H7b_ZgDW_Go7M9fA-3Knm535eGQjhVLQSA_CY3_SVMZ21gEyVl9IweSvmXPMNXTOV-mULzms5G7u8mj1ou0KfAoVBv4FSubT-PSjmMmoStuVxQCRY12lxZ1fNl2AsnuROJ_dobYrjrTqZRq77OM6iMjLFA7vWDIgZnTJd_b2P3gls001GZTdhYG6Fe29i8IK0U9SZd55YSzGgSS5JLTF06RvHAp9WXpsfQ.dbMzeyqGafcVWRCBbUi7C96XEPI1KrsgU996o0qhpaw&dib_tag=se&keywords=naturehike%2Bcloudup&qid=1733264687&s=sporting-goods&sr=1-5&th=1&linkCode=sl2&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=59d21dbb29fe2590d11c916b8dd253cb&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl)** --- **Taking the kids camping for the first time?** My “Your Family’s First Camping Trip” bundle has the complete guide, printable packing checklist, and three done-for-you itineraries, everything from booking the site to the drive home. **[Get the bundle →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/1stcampingtrip)** ### 2. [Mier Lanshan Ultralight](https://amzn.to/3QA1DYe) (1p, 2p) **Verdict:** Great UL option but requires skill to pitch ![mier trekking pole tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/mier-trekking-pole-tent.jpg) This is a trekking pole tent, meaning it uses two trekking poles to pitch. Because you don’t need any tent poles, the tent is significantly lighter than other tents. For the quality, it’s also cheaper than similar tents. Just be warned that trekking pole tents are a bit tricky to pitch, especially on hard or sandy ground. [Read more about trekking pole tents here](https://momgoescamping.com/best-trekking-pole-tents/). Compared to other trekking pole tents, the Mier Lanshan has a nice design that allows for more interior room. It also has two doors and two vestibules, which will make storing gear and getting in/out easier. The tent gets good reviews and is fairly easy to pitch. You’ll probably want to buy the footprint for the tent too, which will add an extra 5.3oz to the total weight of the tent. Note that the 2p version of this UL tent is currently pricy, but the 1p version still meets the “cheap” requirement. **Specs:** - **Trekking pole tent** - **Total Packed Weight:** 2lbs (1p), 2.8lbs (2p) - **Interior Dimensions:** 89.7″x29.5″x49.2″ (1p), 86.6″x43.3″x49.2″ (2p) - **15D 6000mm bathtub floor** - **15D 5000mm fly** - **Two vestibules** - **Other:** Groundsheet (5.3oz) sold separately, two doors, storage pockets, lamp hangers, requires trekking poles - **[See It Here](https://amzn.to/3QA1DYe)** --- ### 3. [Naturehike P-Series](https://amzn.to/4cQGuR1)/[Clostnature](https://amzn.to/4vVyRkU) (2P, 3P, 4P) **Verdict:** 4-person version is the best option for group backpacking [![naturehike p series 4p cheap ultralight tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/p-series-4p.jpg)](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/p-series-4p.jpg)[![p series vs cloudup](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/p-series-vs-cloudup.jpg)](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/p-series-vs-cloudup.jpg)The Naturehike 4P P-Series next to the Cloudup 2P tent I have Naturehike 4-person version of the P-series tent. It’s huge and, considering the size, it very lightweight at just 6.2lbs. That breaks down to 1.55lbs per person! The two doors and vestibules are really nice for family backpacking. I don’t ever use the awning feature, but that’s also nice to have. There are also 2p and 3p versions of the tent but I don’t like these as much because the floor isn’t square. The square floor plan of the 4p version means you can sleep with your heads towards the door or towards the walls. Unfortunately, Naturehike currently isn’t selling the 4p version of the tent anymore (maybe this will have changed, check the link!). However, the brand Clostnature makes the exact same tent. Unfortunately, it is heavier than the Naturehike version. Read my full [review of the Naturehike P-Series](https://momgoescamping.com/naturehike-p-series-4p-tent-review/) here. **Specs:** - **Total Packed Weight:** 4.6lbs (2P), 5lbs (3P), 6.2lbs (P-series 4P)/7.3lbs (Clostnature 4P) - **Interior Dimensions:** 51×79″ (2P), 63×81″ (3P), 83×83″ (4P) - **210T ripstop polyester 3000mm waterproof fabric** - **Two doors and vestibules** - **Other:** Storage pockets, awning, great ventilation - **[P-Series here](https://amzn.to/4vWObhf) and [Clostnature here](https://amzn.to/4cPCIaB)** --- ### 4. [Featherstone Granite](https://amzn.to/4w2tAIz) **Verdict:** Great option if you want two doors and vestibules, and like sleeping horizontally [![featherstone granite cheap ultralight tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/featherstone-granite.jpg)](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/featherstone-granite.jpg) Featherstone is a newer brand making cheap ultralight gear. They currently have two 2P tents: Granite and Peridot. The design of the tents is almost exactly the same. However, the Peridot has a bathtub floor. This floor makes it weigh much more (6.3lbs versus 5lbs loaded with Granite). Because of this, only the Granite tent made the cut. The two vestibules and two doors on the Granite make this actually usable for two people, or one person and a dog. There’s ample headroom too because of the cross pole in the middle. It comes with the groundsheet and you can set it up as a tarp (as shown in the picture). Considering the price, the quality is actually very good. You can even get away with using the setup without the groundsheet because the floor is 20-denier Sil-Nylon with 5000mm polyurethane hydrostatic rated coating. **Note:** This tent is basically identical in design to the [Naturehike Mongar 2p](https://amzn.to/4tMxAez). However, the Granite has more headroom, has a thicker floor *and* is lighter. For this reason, the Mongar didn’t make my list of best cheap UL tents! **Specs:** - **Total Packed Weight:** 5lbs - **Interior Dimensions:** 84 x 51″ - **Head height:** 43″ - **40-denier Sil-Nylon with 5000mm floor** - **20-denier Sil-Nylon with 5000mm fly** - **Two doors and two vestibules (25″ each)** - **Other:** Side vents, detachable gear loft - **[Get it here](https://amzn.to/4w2tAIz)** --- ### 5. [Featherstone Obsidian](https://amzn.to/4d8I3eh) **Verdict:** Choose if you are short and prefer to sleep horizontally to the door. ![featherstone obsidian cheap ultralight tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/featherstone-obsidian-ultralight-cheap-tent.jpg) Featherstone also makes this cheap 1p ultralight tent. I personally don’t like it very much. It weighs the same as the Cloudup 2 person tent, but is much smaller. These types of tents (this design has been popular in the past few years) also have condensation issues because there isn’t much of an air gap between the fly and the head/foot areas. If you are tall, you will likely hit the foot area, which can result in wet feet. The two air vents don’t solve this issue. (Also read: [How to solve tent condensation](https://momgoescamping.com/tent-condensation/)) That said, the Featherstone Obsidian is a nice quality for the price. A lot of people prefer to sleep horizontally to the door (though I’m not one of them), so will prefer this design. Note that the floor is only 20D, not 40D like with the Granite tent. I’d almost rather carry an extra 7oz and get the Featherstone Granite tent because of this. Also note that there is only one vestibule: there’s no zipper opening to access the second side. **Specs:** - **Total Packed Weight:** 3lbs 12oz - **Interior Dimensions:** 81 x 38.5″ - **Head height:** 45″ - **20-denier Sil-Nylon with 5000mm floor and fly** - **One door and one vestibule** - **Other:** Vents, detachable gear loft - **[Get it here](https://amzn.to/4d8I3eh)** --- ### 6. [Kelty Late Start](https://amzn.to/4sY2Yp2) (1p, 2p, 4p) **Verdict:** Choose if you need something really durable ![kelty late start lightweight tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/kelty-late-start.jpg) The Kelty Late Start tent comes in several different sizes. Right away you’ll notice that the tent is very heavy (it barely meets the lightweight definition). But this is because it uses 68D fabric, so you don’t need to be careful with it like UL tents which use fragile 20D materials. The tent uses “pockets” instead of grommets to secure the poles to the corners of the tent. This theoretically makes pitching by yourself a lot easier (I personally haven’t tried it). But I’d be concerned about the pockets getting full of dirt. On the plus side, the Kelty Mesa 2P is one of the few lightweight tents which has a dome pole structure, so you get good headroom inside. It’s also one of the few lightweight 4p tents you’ll find. And Kelty is generally a good brand which makes durable tents. **Specs:** - **Two-layer tent** - **Total Packed Weight:** 60oz (1p), 72oz (2p), 110oz (4p) - **Interior Dimensions:** 85×40″ (1p), 85×54″ (2p), 99×81″ (4p) + vestibule - **68D walls, floor and fly** - **[Get it here](https://amzn.to/4sY2Yp2)** --- ### 7. [Kelty Mesa 2P Tent](https://amzn.to/3ONGkli) **Verdict:** Choose if you need durability and want to sleep with feet towards the door. ![kelty mesa 2p lightweight tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/kelty-lightweight-mesa-2p-tent.jpg) Like the Kelty Late Start, the Mesa 2P is pretty heavy for its size. It is also made out of 68D material though, so will be very durable. It also uses “smart pockets” for pitching and has a dome structure for good interior space without. The main difference between the two Kelty tents is that the Mesa is a dark color. The dark color is great if you like to sleep in late (I usually wake at 6am with the sun when backpacking :)), but would also be really dark if you needed to hide out in it during a rainstorm. **Specs:** - **Two-layer tent** - **Total packed weight:** 76oz - **Interior size:** 85″ long, 43″ at foot, 57″ at head, 43″ peak headroom, + vestibule - **68D Polyester walls, floor and fly** - **[See it here](https://amzn.to/3ONGkli)** --- ## What About Buying Used Tents? When I decided to upgrade to an ultralight tent, my first reaction was to look for something secondhand. I started scouring the net for a Big Agnes. I quickly gave up though. Most of the used tents only had a slight markdown, which meant I’d still be paying close to $300 for a tent. There was a surprising amount of competition. Auctions on eBay had insane bidding wars! Plus, I’m a bit squeamish about buying used tents because of a bad experience I had years ago. The cheap used tent I bought was *mostly* fine. But one of the pole was cracked and broke quickly. There were no replacement poles available for this tent, so I had to splint it. No fun! I’d rather pay full price for a new tent than risk defects. ### Want to really cut weight from your pack? Check out my ebook. It’s got tons of ultralight dehydrator recipes for backpacking, plus tons of info on meal planning. **[Get the book here!](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck)** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Backpacking, Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** tents, ultralight --- ### [10 Best Camping Cots, As Recommended by Real Campers](https://momgoescamping.com/best-camping-cots/) **Published:** April 13, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** A camping cot can make all of the difference for getting a good night’s sleep in a tent. This is especially true if you have back problems or are a side sleeper. Camping cots also have other benefits, like giving you extra storage space, a place to sit, and helping with temperature regulation. But it important that you get the right cot for your style of camping. Here’s what you need to know about choosing camping cots, plus the best camping cots for car camping as well as some lightweight cots for backpacking. ## Quick Picks: - **Best Overall: [OneTigris Extendable Cot](https://link.amazon/B08Z4dELD)** - **Amazing Cot (but Expensive): [Helinox One Extendable](https://amzn.to/3UwC3RF)** - **Most Comfortable: [REI Kingdom Cot 3](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F892837%2Frei-co-op-kingdom-cot-3)** - **Best for Family Camping: [Disc-O Bunk Cots](https://amzn.to/3o5F0wv)** - **Best for Backpacking: [Helinox Lite](https://amzn.to/3zTrCyg)** - **Best Large Cot: [Ever Advanced XXL Cot](https://amzn.to/3KbDRev)** - **Best Two-Person Cot: [Coleman Queen Sized Cot](https://amzn.to/3Myx5lC)** - **Budget Pick: [Coleman Pack-Away](https://amzn.to/413YKPC)** ## Cot Comparison Table: | Cot | Height | LxW | Weight Limit | Cot Weight | Packed Size | Cost | |---|---|---|---|---|---|---| | [OneTigris Extendable Cot](https://link.amazon/B08Z4dELD) | 0.56″/1.2″ | 6.2×2.2′ | 330lbs | 8.5lbs | 23×5.9″ | $$ | | [Therm-a-Rest UL Regular](https://amzn.to/3Ku4riN) | 4.5″ | 72×24″ | 325lbs | 1.8lbs/2.6lbs | 16×4″ | $$ | | [Therm-a-Rest UL Large](https://amzn.to/3Ku4riN) | 4.5″ | 77×26″ | 325lbs | 2.2lbs/2.9lbs | 16×4″ | $$ | | [Helinox Lite](https://amzn.to/3zTrCyg) | 5″ | 73×23.5″ | 265lbs | 2.8lbs | 21×5″ | $$$ | | [Helinox One Convertible](https://amzn.to/3UwC3RF) | 6″/15″ | 74.8×26.8″ | 320lbs | 6.1lbs | 21×7″ | $$$$ | | [Naturehike Cot](https://amzn.to/4aBRrmi) | 6.7″/16″ | 74.8×25.6″ | 330lbs | 5lbs | 20.5×7.5″ | $$ | | [REI Kingdom Cot 3](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F892837%2Frei-co-op-kingdom-cot-3) | 14″ | 82×31.5″ | 300lbs | 20lbs | 33x32x8.5″ | $$ | | [Coleman Pack-Away Cot](https://amzn.to/413YKPC) | 17″ | 80×44″ | 300lbs | 23lbs | 37x6x6″ | $ | | [Ever Advanced XXL Cot](https://amzn.to/3KbDRev) | 19.7″ | 81.3×41.9″ | 550lbs | 27lbs | 48.6×4.9×9.1″ | $ | | [Disc-O Kid-O Bunk Bed](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fb%2Fdisc-o-bed%2Fc%2Fcots%3Fpagesize%3D90) | 9.5″/28″ | 65×32.5″ | 200lbs | 23lbs | 34x16x9″ | $$$$ | | [Disc-O Bunk Bed Large](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fb%2Fdisc-o-bed%2Fc%2Fcots%3Fpagesize%3D90) | 11″/32″ | 82×32.5″ | 500lbs | 30lbs | 33x15x5″ | $$$$ | | [Coleman Queen Cot](https://amzn.to/3Myx5lC) | 14″ | 78×59″ | 600lbs | 42.6lbs | 37×10.5×7″ | $$ | ## Best Camping Cots Reviewed ### 1. OneTigris Extendable Cot **Best for: Best all-around cot for most campers** #### Features - **Height:** 0.56′ (17cm) or 1.2′ (37cm) with leg extenders - **Dimensions:** 6.2′ x 2.2′ (190cm x 67cm) - **Packed Size:** 23″ x 5.9″ - **Cot Weight:** 8.5lbs - **Cot Material:** 420D Oxford fabric - **Frame material:** 7075 aluminum alloy - **Weight limit:** 330lbs - **Available At: [Amazon](https://link.amazon/B08Z4dELD)** #### Review This is the cot I recommend to most people who ask me where to start, and it’s why it tops this list. The aircraft-grade aluminum frame keeps it light at 8.5lbs while still holding up to 330lbs, and the two height settings mean it works whether you’re in a tall cabin tent or a smaller dome where headroom is tight. There are no bars at the head or foot end, so the sleeping length is genuinely usable, not eaten up by hardware the way cheaper cots often are. Setup takes a few minutes the first time and gets faster after that. The leg extenders come in their own separate mesh bag, so if you’re only using the low setting on a given trip, you can leave the extenders at home and shave off a little more weight. Side pockets are a nice touch for keeping your phone or headlamp within reach at night. It won’t beat the REI Kingdom Cot 3 on pure plush comfort, and it’s not light enough for backpacking. But for the price, weight, and versatility, this is the cot that makes sense for most car camping families. #### Pros: - **Two height settings:** Works in tall cabin tents or smaller domes with limited headroom. - **No head or foot bars:** Full usable sleeping length, unlike cots with end rails. - **Lightweight for a car-camping cot:** Just 8.5lbs thanks to the aircraft-grade aluminum frame. - **Side storage pockets:** Keeps your phone or headlamp within reach at night. - **Comes with a carry bag** #### Cons: - **Not padded like the REI Kingdom Cot 3:** Less plush for pure comfort. - **Too heavy for backpacking:** This is a car camping cot, not an ultralight one. **[Buy Here](https://link.amazon/B08Z4dELD)** --- ### 2. REI Kingdom Cot 3 **Best for: Comfort** #### Features - **Height:** 14″ - **Packed Size:** 33x32x8.5″ - **Cot Weight:** 20lbs - **Cot Material:** polyester, fully padded - **Frame material:** Aluminum/steel - **Weight limit:** 300lbs - **Available At: [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F892837%2Frei-co-op-kingdom-cot-3)** #### Pros: - **Comfortable:** The Kingdom Cot 3 by REI is very popular with car campers because it is so comfortable. There are supports throughout the cot, including sides which are slightly raised. Because the cot is fully padded, you can’t feel any of the supports on your back. There is extra padding in the head and foot area. - **Adjustable Front Legs:** Another nice feature of the Kingdom Cot 3 is that the front two legs are adjustable. This allows you to set up the cot as a recliner chair (though the back is very low, you won’t be able to sit up much in this position). The adjustable legs also allow you to level the cot on uneven ground. - **Quick and Easy Setup:** The cot is very easy to set up and take apart, though it’s slightly annoying to adjust the leg height once the cot is fully opened. The cot does weigh a hefty 20lbs, so it may be annoying to lug to camp. ![rei kingdom cot folded size](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/rei-kingdom-cot-folded-size.jpg)The REI cot when folded, it’s definitely bulky! #### Cons: - **Padding Annoying to Wash:** You can’t remove the built-in padding on the REI Cot. This makes it extra bulky for storage. It also makes it a pain to wash. You have to spot wash the padding. - **No Storage Bag:** This might not be a big deal, except that the padding gets dirty easily and it’s a pain to wash. I personally would rather have a cot without padding. --- ### 3. Disc-O Bunk Bed Cots **Best for: Family camping** #### Specs (for L size): - **Height:** 11″/32″ - **Packed Size:** 33x15x5″ (each) - **Cot Weight:** 30lbs (each) - **Cot Material:** Polyester - **Frame material:** Steel - **Weight limit:** 500lbs (each) - **Available At: [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3o5F0wv), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fb%2Fdisc-o-bed%2Fc%2Fcots%3Fpagesize%3D90), [Campsaver](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=358fd954-c6b8-44a1-9ca9-aaad445d2dfb&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.campsaver.com%2Fs%2Fdisc--o-bed)** #### Pros: - **Bunk Beds Give You More Floor Space:** My friend Callie got the Disc-O bunk beds specifically for this reason. It was the only way her family of four would fit into their 6p tent and still have room to walk around. There’s even a “trundle” bed which can fit under the bottom bunk to give you more floor space in your tent (but it only fits under the XL sized bunk). - **Can Turn Into Couch:** The modular design on the Disc-O cots mean you can put it together as a couch too. This might be good if you want to use it at home as well as camping. - **Three Sizes and Lots of Accessories:** There are also XL and kids’ sizes of the Disc-O bunk cots available. They come with storage organizers and there are other accessories you can buy too. ![disc o bunk bed cots folded size](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/disc-o-bunk-bed-cots-folded-size.jpg)The bunks fit into two (large!) carrying cases #### Cons: - **No Headroom On Bottom Bunk:** The bunk beds were designed so the top bunk is just 32″ high. This makes it possible for you to get on the top bunk without a ladder. But it also means that the person on the bottom bunk won’t have any headroom for sitting up in bed. There’s just 21″ of space between the two bunks. - **Takes a While to Setup:** There are lots of different parts to assemble for the bunk cots. Expect it to take at least 20 minutes to assemble both beds. It’s probably not worth the effort if you are only camping one or two nights. - **Heavy and Bulky:** These camping cots are MASSIVE. Each of the cots weighs about 30lbs and the carrying case is approximately 33x15x5 inches. If you have a small vehicle, you might not be able to fit these cots in your trunk along with your other camping gear. - **Pricy:** The Disc-O bunk cots are not cheap. But they are currently the only bunk bed cots available. So, if you need the extra floor space, you don’t have any other options. **Read my full [review of Disc-O-Bed cots](https://momgoescamping.com/disc-o-bed-camping-bunk-beds-review/) here** --- ### 4. Coleman Pack-Away Cot **Best for: Affordable but still good-enough cot** #### Specs: - **Height:** 17″ - **Dimensions:** 80×44″ - **Packed Size:** 6x6x37″ - **Cot Weight:** 23lbs - **Cot Material:** Canvas - **Frame material:** Steel - **Weight limit:** 300lbs - **Available At: [Amazon](https://amzn.to/413YKPC)** #### Pros: - **Good for Tall and Large People:** The sleeping area of the Coleman Pack-Away cot is 80×32 inches, which is a lot wider than most camping cots. Because there aren’t any head or feet rails, you can actually use the full length of the cot. - **Very Fast, Easy Setup:** You literally just unfold the Coleman cot to set it up, much like a camping chair. It takes seconds to do and even kids can handle it. - **High Cot Height:** With a height of 17 inches, the Coleman Pack-Away has enough room to fit totes underneath. It also makes it easier to get in/out of bed. - **Comes with Side Table:** This feature is surprisingly nice to have. It has a cup holder that you can use for a water bottle, your headlamp, or whatever you need to keep nearby. #### Cons: - **Legs Don’t Lock:** The biggest issue with the Coleman Pack-Away is that the legs don’t lock in place. They only stay in place once you lie down on it. This can be an issue if you need to shift the cot for some reason, want to use it for a baby changing table, etc. - **Terrible On Uneven Ground:** Because there are 6 legs that are attached to the opposite leg with criss-crossing bars, it’s hard to set up the cot on uneven ground. The feet are pretty small too, so you can’t easily prop them up to level the cot. --- ### 5. Coleman Two Person Queen-Sized Cot + Mattress **Best For: Cot for two people** #### Specs: - **Height:** 14″ - **Dimensions:** 78×59″ - **Packed Size:** 5×37″ - **Cot Weight:** 6lbs - **Cot Material:** Canvas - **Frame material:** Steel - **Weight limit:** 600lbs - **Available At: [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3Myx5lC), [Campsaver](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=358fd954-c6b8-44a1-9ca9-aaad445d2dfb&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.campsaver.com%2Fcoleman-cot-with-airbed.html%3F_iv_code%3D7A-COT-31629-2000020270)** #### Pros: - **Two-Person Cot:** This is one of the only cots for two people that you will find. There are a few other options, but they aren’t built as well and are even bulkier. - **Comes with Mattress, Battery-Operated Pump and Side Tables:** The side tables are a really nice touch. And, if you already were planning on using an air mattress, the set is a good deal. Unfortunately though, you can’t buy the Coleman Queen cot by itself without the mattress. - **Sturdy:** The cot itself is very sturdy. The steel frame can withstand some abuse and the canvas fabric is also pretty tough. Like with all cheap air mattresses though, don’t be surprised if the Coleman air mattress eventually gets some leaks! Bring a repair kit with you. #### Cons: - **Only for Really Big Cabin Tents:** The cot height by itself is 14″. With the queen mattress on top of it, the cot is approximately 22″ high. This makes it hard to use in dome tents or other tents with sloping walls. Because the cot is so massive, you’ll also have to set up inside the tent, which can be annoying to do if you don’t have headroom. - **Bar Down Middle of Cot:** The Coleman queen cot has a support bar going down the middle. This makes it really uncomfortable to snuggle with your camping partner. You can’t feel the bar if you use the Coleman queen mattress with the cot. But you will definitely feel that bar if you decide to use a thinner mattress! Unfortunately, I haven’t been able to find a two-person cot which doesn’t have this bar. - **Insanely Heavy:** Because it is made from canvas and steel, the Coleman Queen cot is really heavy. At over 40lbs, many people will have trouble moving it. The cot does come with a wheeled bag, but the wheels won’t handle bumpy camp ground well. --- ### 6. Helinox Lite Cot **Best for: Backpacking** #### Features - **Height:** 5″ - **Packed Size:** 21×5″ - **Cot Weight:** 2lbs 13oz - **Cot Material:** Nylon - **Frame material:** Aluminum - **Weight limit:** 265lbs - **Available At: [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F158009%2Fhelinox-lite-cot), [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3zTrCyg), [Campsaver](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=358fd954-c6b8-44a1-9ca9-aaad445d2dfb&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.campsaver.com%2Fs%2Fhelinox-cot)** #### Pros: - **Insanely Lightweight and Compact:** This is one of the only tent cots which is light enough to take backpacking. The cot packs down tiny too. - **Very Comfortable:** The frame of the Helinox Lite is made in a way so the fabric is stretched taut throughout. You won’t get that annoying longitudinal sag which occurs in many camping cots. The fabric retains its tautness, so you don’t have to worry about your body hitting the ground even if you are a side sleeping. - **Good for Tall People:** There are no head or foot rails on the Helinox Lite frame, so tall people don’t have to worry about banging their heads on them. - **Durable:** For an ultralight cot, the Helinox Lite is surprisingly durable. The material holds up well without ripping. ![helinox lite backpacking cot size](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/helinox-lite-backpacking-cot-size.jpg)The Helinox Lite cot packs down TINY! #### Cons: - **Expensive!** The Helinox Lite is definitely luxury backpacking gear. There are some other lightweight camping cots which cost much less than this. - **Narrow:** The width of the Helinox Lite is just 23.5 inches, and a bit of that width is taken up by the frame sides. If you put a thick sleeping pad on the cot, your body might go over the edges of the cot a bit. - **Setup Takes a Bit of Practice:** The biggest complaint about the Helinox Cot (aside from the price) is that it’s hard to set up. There are several poles which have to be inserted. The horizontal bars are under tension, so it can be tricky to get them in place, especially if you have joint problems or arthritis. Definitely try setting it up at home before taking it to camp! - **Low to the Ground:** The low height of the Helinox Lite means you get almost no storage space underneath and it isn’t comfortable for sitting. But the cot needs to be this low to fit in an ultralight tent. --- ### 7. Helinox Cot One Convertible **Best for: Insanely good, lightweight luxury cot** #### Specs: - **Height:** 6″ or 15″ (with extenders) - **Dimensions:** 8×26.8″ - **Packed Size:** 21×7″ - **Cot Weight:** 5lbs 1oz (without extenders); 6.1lbs (with extenders) - **Cot Material:** Nylon - **Frame material:** Aluminum - **Weight limit:** 320lbs - **Available At: [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F158011%2Fhelinox-cot-one-convertible), [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3UwC3RF), [Campsaver](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=358fd954-c6b8-44a1-9ca9-aaad445d2dfb&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.campsaver.com%2Fs%2Fhelinox-cot)** #### Pros: - **Adjustable Height with Leg Extenders:** The Helinox One has detachable legs. This gives you two options for sleeping height: 6″ or 15″. Having these options is great if you camp in both larger and smaller tents. Note that the leg extenders are sold separately [at REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F158013%2Fhelinox-cot-one-leg-conversion-kit). - **Very Comfortable and Suitable for Tall People:** Like the Helinox Lite, the One cot is also very comfortable. There aren’t any head or foot bars, so tall people can use the cot comfortably too. #### Cons: - **Not Light Enough:** The Helinox One is very lightweight at just over 5lbs (6lbs with the leg extenders). However, this weight seems high considering that the Helinox Lite cot is less than 3lbs. It’s too bad that there isn’t a leg extender option for the Lite version. - **VERY Expensive:** The Helinox One Convertible is the most expensive tent cot reviewed here. However, pretty much everyone who has bought the cot said it was worth the money. Definitely an expensive investment though! --- ### 8. Naturehike Lightweight Extendable Cot **Best for: Overall good cot, if storage isn’t a priority** #### Specs: - **Height:** 6.7″/16″ - **Dimensions:** 74.8×25.6″ - **Packed Size:** 20.5×7.5″ - **Cot Weight:** 5lbs - **Cot Material:** Polyester - **Frame material:** Aluminum - **Weight limit:** 330lbs - **Available At: [Amazon](https://amzn.to/4aBRrmi)** #### Pros: - **Affordable:** Naturehike makes cheaper versions of expensive UL gear. In this case, the cot is a knockoff of the Helinox One Extendable. The Naturehike version isn’t made as well, but it costs a LOT less. - **Reliable for “generic” brand.** Naturehike is a cheap Chinese brand, but one of the better ones. I have a bunch of their tents (including the [Cloud Up 2](https://momgoescamping.com/naturehike-cloudup-2-review/)) and they’ve held up amazingly well. - **Lightweight and Compact:** While the cot is still too heavy to take backpacking, it is lighter and more compact than other camping cots. - **Two Heights:** With the leg extenders, you can set the cot to either 6.7″ or 16″. The 6.7″ height is very low so you might hit your butt on the ground when sitting on it. - **No Head/Feet Rails or Crossbars:** This makes it a good cot for tall people and it is fairly comfortable too. - **Storage Bag:** The bag also has some MOLLE attachment points, so you can hang gear off of the cot too. #### Cons: - **Lots of Parts to Assemble:** It isn’t difficult to assemble the Naturehike cot, but there are a lots of parts. Be careful you don’t lose any! - **Not Much Storage Room Underneath:** There are 12 legs on the Naturehike cot. The leg position makes it hard to fit gear underneath the cot. --- ### 9. Thermarest Ultralite Cot **Best for: Lightweight cot on a budget** #### Specs: - **Height:** 5″ - **Dimensions:** 24×72″ (regular); 26×77″ (Large) - **Packed Size:** 16×4″ - **Cot Weight:** 1.8lbs/2.6lbs (regular); 2.2lbs/2.9lbs (Large) - **Cot Material:** Polyester - **Frame material:** Aluminum - **Weight limit:** 325lbs - **Available At: [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3zVAAeo)** #### Pros: - **Very Lightweight and Compact:** The Therm-a-Rest Ultralight cot really is the lightest backpacking cot on the market. And, if you aren’t very heavy, you don’t have to use all of the cross poles when setting up the cot. This means the regular-sized cot ends up weighing just 1.8lbs. The entire cot packs down to around the size of a Nalgene bottle. - **Lifetime Warranty:** Therm-a-Rest has good warranties, including a lifetime warranty for their UL cot. A few backpackers have said they’ve used it for years without any broken poles or fabric tears. It’s definitely not as sturdy as the Helinox cot, but it will hold up if not abused. - **Affordable(ish):** Ultralight gear is almost never cheap but, compared to the Helinox UL cot, the Therm-a-Rest Lite cot is much more affordable. You can usually find it on sale too. - **No Head or Feet Rails:** This makes it good for tall people. If you are skinny, you can get away with getting the Regular size instead of the Large to save some weight. #### Cons: - **Annoying Setup:** The Therm-a-Rest Ultralight cot comes with a LOT of parts which you have to assemble. By comparison, the parts on the Helinox Lite cot have shock cords holding them together so you don’t have to reassemble them each time you set up camp. - **Not for Sitting On:** The UL cot only sits about 4 ½ inches off the ground. If you sit on it, the cot will sag and your butt will hit the ground. - **Terrible on Slanted Ground:** Because there are so many feet/supports on the cot, it’s hard to get it to sit level on slanted ground. The feet are shaped weirdly so it’s hard to put something underneath them to level out the cot. - **Either Will Love or Hate It:** Backpackers either find the Therm-a-Rest cot very comfortable, or they absolutely hate it. In case you fall into the second group, make sure you pay attention to the return policy! --- ### 10. Ever Advanced XXL Cot **Best for: Extra-large cot** #### Specs: - **Height:** 19.7″ - **Dimensions:** 84.3×41.9″ - **Packed Size:** 48.6×4.9×9.1″ - **Cot Weight:** 27lbs - **Cot Material:** Canvas - **Frame material:** Aluminum - **Weight limit:** 600lbs - **Available At: [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3wMCT5u)** #### Pros: - **VERY Large:** If you are a large person, then you’ll love how long and wide this cot is. The rails take up a bit of space, but the sleeping area is still massive. If you are petite, the cot is even big enough to co-sleep with a small child (not that I’d recommend it :)). - **Easy Setup:** It can be tricky to unfold a cot because the fabric needs to be stretched tight. They help solve this by adding a zipper for accessing the side bars. - **Affordable:** Considering how well this cot is made, it is priced very affordably. - **550lb Weight Limit:** The Ever Advance XXL cot has a higher weight limit than almost all other single camping cots I’ve seen. The fabric is very strong and doesn’t stretch even after enduring lots of use. #### Cons: - **Head and Foot Rails:** These aren’t a big deal if you get the XXL sized cot. But, if you are tall and get one of the smaller sizes, you run the risk of your head or feet hitting the rails. - **Heavy and Bulky:** As you’d expect from an XXL camp cot, the Ever Advance XXL is very heavy and bulky. When packed, it’s even larger than the Coleman queen-sized cot. --- ## Are Camping Cots Worth It? If you mostly go backpacking or to walk-in campsites, then a camping cot probably isn’t worth it. Most camping cots are simply too heavy to carry and won’t fit in small tents. However, there are a lot of benefits to camping cots which make them worth getting: - **Comfortable:** Especially when the ground is rocky - **Allows air to circulate underneath your body:** Important when [camping in hot weather](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-hot-temperatures/) - **Extra storage underneath** - **Keep family contained:** Less likely to end up with someone’s feet kicking you in the face! - **Take naps outside:** Without (as many) bugs crawling over you - **Keeps gear off tent floor:** Which keeps it dryer and cleaner - **Getting in/out of bed is easier** - **Use as a guest bed at home** **Heading out soon?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup, print them before you go. **[Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** ## Choosing a Camping Cot Not sure which camping cot to get? Here’s what features you should look at to make sure the cot is right for your style of camping. ### Height Taller camping cots give you storage space underneath. They also make it easier to get in/out of bed, and you can sit on them too. But, if you have a small tent with sloping walls (as opposed to a large cabin tent), you might not be able to fit a taller camping cot in your tent. Your head can end up banging the tent walls, which in turn can cause [condensation problems](https://momgoescamping.com/tent-condensation/). ### Sleeping Area The listed width of camping cots includes the side rails. The actual width will be several inches narrower.This can make for a really tight fit. As for the length of a camping cot, don’t forget to factor in your pillow. Your head sits in the middle of a pillow. If your pillow is large, you might even need to add as much as 5″ of space for the part of the pillow that sticks out from your head. ### Number of Legs Cots with more legs will be sturdier and distribute your weight better. However, I prefer camping cots with fewer legs. The main reason is because you will have more storage space underneath. It’s also a lot easier to set up a camping cot with just four legs on sloped ground. ### Packed Size The biggest downside of most camping cots is that they are VERY bulky and will take up a huge amount of space in your vehicle. I recommend you actually get out a measuring tape and map out the dimensions of the cot before buying. That way you can get an idea of how big the folded cot will really be. ### Fabric Type Cheap camping cots are usually made from canvas. Canvas is prone to mildew (never put the cot away while it’s wet!). Because canvas is so thick, it makes the cot bulkier and heavier. Newer camping cots will use nylon or mesh materials. The thinner material has a lot of benefits, such as allowing air to circulate underneath you (great for summer camping), weighing less and being more compact. ### Avoid Head and Feet Rails Some camping cots, including Army cots, have bars at the head and feet. These can be very annoying to sleep on: either your head or feet (or both!) will hit the bars while you sleep. If you are tall, avoid getting a camping cot which has these bars. If you must get one with bars, make sure the sleeping area is actually long enough. ### Also Avoid Crossbars Older Army-style camping cots have support bars or straps in the middle. These can be incredibly uncomfortable. Unless you are using a thick air mattress on the cot, avoid these types of cots. ### Setup Time If you mostly go on weekend camping trips, then avoid any camping cot which takes a long time to set up. It simply won’t be worth the effort for short trips. If you spend a lot of nights at the same camp though, then it won’t be so annoying to get a cot with a more involved setup. ### Two-Person Camping Cots There aren’t too many two-person camping cots available (one exception is the Coleman Queen-sized cot). If the reason you want a 2-person cot is so you can “cuddle” with your partner at night, be warned: All two person cots have a bar going down the middle! You won’t be able to lay in the middle of the cot without the bar digging into your back. It’s still a better solution than pushing two cots together though, since you won’t have a gap between the cots. ## Camping Cot FAQ: ### Do you need a sleeping pad on a camping cot? It depends on the temperature. A camping cot lifts you off the cold ground, but air circulates underneath you which means you can actually lose more heat from below than you would sleeping directly on an insulated pad on the ground. In cool or cold weather, you need an insulated sleeping pad on top of the cot. In warm summer weather, the airflow is a feature rather than a problem, and you can skip the pad or use a very thin one. ### Can you fit a camping cot in any tent? Not always. Tall cots (17″+) work well in cabin-style tents with near-vertical walls but are a problem in dome tents where the walls slope inward, your head ends up pushing against the tent wall, which causes condensation to soak your sleeping bag. Measure your tent’s vertical side wall height before buying a tall cot. Low-profile cots (under 6″) fit in almost any tent but give you no under-cot storage. ### What’s the most comfortable camping cot? The REI Kingdom Cot 3 wins on comfort for car camping, fully padded, no support bars, and wide enough to sleep like a real bed. For backpacking, the Helinox Lite’s taut fabric suspension eliminates the longitudinal sag that makes most lightweight cots uncomfortable. The worst cots for comfort are old-style Army cots with crossbars down the middle and head/foot rails. ### Are camping cots good for bad backs? Usually yes, sleeping elevated off the ground eliminates the pressure points and cold that make bad backs worse after a night on a sleeping pad. The key is a cot with no crossbars and a taut sleeping surface. Add a thin insulated sleeping pad on top for cold weather and you have a setup that many back-pain sufferers prefer even to their bed at home. ### How do you keep warm on a camping cot? Use an insulated sleeping pad on top of the cot, not underneath it. Air circulates freely under a cot, which is great in summer but means cold air strips heat from your back in cooler weather. A sleeping pad with an R-value of 2 or higher placed on top of the cot fabric solves this completely. Read more about camping with kids below: - [Best Kids Camping Cots](https://momgoescamping.com/kids-camping-cots/) - [How to Sleep in a Tent with a Baby](https://momgoescamping.com/sleep-tent-with-baby/) - [Disc-O-Bed Camping Bunk Beds Full Review](https://momgoescamping.com/disc-o-bed-camping-bunk-beds-review/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [How to Wrap a Sprained Ankle on the Trail (Step-by-Step)](https://momgoescamping.com/how-wrap-a-sprained-ankle/) **Published:** June 5, 2024 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I need to be completely self-reliant when I go hiking or camping in the wilderness. That means having a mini first aid kit and knowing wilderness first aid. It’s highly unlikely that I’ll have to [treat a snake bite](https://momgoescamping.com/snake-bite-first-aid/) or [improvise a stretcher](https://momgoescamping.com/improvised-stretcher/). However, sprained ankles are very common hiking injuries and it is something you should absolutely know how to treat. I keep an elastic bandage in my first aid kit for sprains, but you can also improvise a bandage out of strips of t-shirts, or use tape to wrap a sprain.  Here’s how to do it.  There are detailed instructions below the image. --- [![how to wrap a sprained ankle with elastic bandage or tape](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/how-to-wrap-a-sprained-ankle-668x1024.jpg "how to wrap a sprained ankle - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/how-to-wrap-a-sprained-ankle.jpg) --- **Want this information in PRINTABLE format? Get My Camping Cheat Sheets** They contain 42 pages of illustration info about fire lays, settingup camps, removing ticks, and more. [![camping cheat sheets](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/interior-pages-1024x356.jpg "interior pages - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/interior-pages.jpg) [**Get the Cheat Sheets Here**](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets/) --- ## How to Wrap a Sprain ### with an Elastic Bandage #### **1. Initial Wrapping** Wrap once around the ball of the foot, ensuring the bandage lies flat without any twists. Then, wrap around the arch of the foot to provide support. Next, continue wrapping up towards the ankle. **Tips:** - Keep the bandage rolled up to make wrapping easier and more controlled. - Avoid wrapping too tightly to prevent cutting off circulation. If your toes become cold or numb, loosen the bandage. #### **2. Figure-8 Pattern** Wrap the bandage in a figure-8 pattern by bringing it around the ankle and then down towards the ball of the foot. This creates a supportive and stable structure. **Tips:** - Make sure each wrap overlaps the previous one by about half the width of the bandage to ensure even compression. - Check that the bandage remains smooth and wrinkle-free to avoid pressure points. #### **3. Continue Wrapping** As you continue with the figure-8 pattern, gradually move the bandage towards the heel when wrapping down, and towards the ankle when wrapping up. Repeat this process until the entire bandage is used and the foot is fully covered. #### **4. Securing the Bandage** Secure the end of the bandage with the clips or tape, or tuck the end underneath the wrapped layers to keep it in place. ### **Wrapping a Sprain with Tape** You will need 14 pieces of tape to wrap a sprain with tape. Medical tape is best; if using duct tape, rip it in half lengthwise. Note it will *not* be fun to remove duct tape from hairy legs! #### **1. Initial Landmark** Wrap the first piece of tape around the ankle, about 2 inches above the ankle bone. This serves as a landmark and anchor for the rest of the tape. **Tips:** - Make sure the skin is clean and dry for better adhesion. - Press the tape firmly but avoid wrapping too tightly. #### **2. Creating the Stirrup** Create a “stirrup” by applying tape from one side of the ankle, under the arch of the foot, and up to the other side of the ankle. Apply two more stirrups, one on each side of the first. They should overlap slightly. Wrap another “landmark” piece of tape around the ankle to keep the stirrups in place. #### **3. J-Shaped Tape Application** Starting on the uninjured side of your ankle, apply three pieces of tape in a J-shape. These should start above the ankle bone, wrap around the heel, and end back at the starting point. Overlap each piece of tape slightly for better stability. #### **4. Applying Figure-8 Pieces** Still starting from the uninjured side, apply three pieces of tape in a figure-8 pattern, wrapping around the ankle and ending under the arch of the foot. **Tips:** - Make sure the tape is applied firmly but not too tight. - The figure-8 pattern provides additional support and restricts movement to aid in healing. ## Sprained Ankle FAQ: #### How do you know if your ankle is sprained or broken? With a sprain, you’ll have pain, swelling, and bruising but can usually still bear some weight. A fracture often causes sharper pain, tenderness directly on the bone, and you may not be able to bear any weight at all. In the backcountry, treat it as a fracture until proven otherwise — immobilize it and get out. #### Can you walk on a sprained ankle while hiking? A mild sprain, yes wrap it firmly with an elastic bandage and use trekking poles to offload weight. A moderate or severe sprain should be rested as much as possible. Continuing to hike on a bad sprain risks turning it into a complete ligament tear, which is a much bigger problem. #### What’s the RICE method for a sprained ankle? Rest, Ice, Compression, Elevation. In the backcountry you may not have ice use a cold stream or wet cloth instead. Compression with an elastic bandage reduces swelling. Elevate the foot above heart level whenever resting. The sooner you start, the faster the swelling comes down. #### How tight should you wrap a sprained ankle? Firm but not cutting off circulation. You should be able to slide one finger under the bandage. If your toes go numb, tingly, or turn bluish, the wrap is too tight loosen it immediately. #### What should I keep in my first aid kit for ankle sprains? An elastic bandage (at least 3 inches wide), athletic or kinesiology tape, and ibuprofen for pain and swelling. A SAM splint is worth adding if you do remote hiking it can immobilize a bad sprain or suspected fracture until you can get out. Read more about camping first aid below: - [Camping First Aid Checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-first-aid-checklist/) - [Getting Sick While Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/get-sick-camping/) - [How to Remove a Tick](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-remove-tick/) --- ###### Sources: Sources: <https://www.health.harvard.edu/pain/recovering-from-an-ankle-sprain>, <https://uhs.berkeley.edu/sites/default/files/anklesprains.pdf>, <https://health.uconn.edu/msi/clinical-services/orthopaedic-surgery/foot-ankle-and-podiatry/ankle-sprain/>, <https://www.hss.edu/conditions_ankle-sprains-types-treatments.asp>, <https://www.healthyhorns.utexas.edu/HT/HT_anklesprain.html> ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety --- ### [The Best Jogging and All-Terrain Strollers for Hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/best-strollers-for-hiking-jogging/) **Published:** October 21, 2025 **Author:** Diane **Content:** **About this guide:** I’ve been testing jogging strollers on trails, sidewalks, and camping trips for the past six years with my two kids. This guide reflects hands-on experience with multiple models, conversations with other outdoorsy parents, and extensive research into the latest 2026 models. I personally own and have extensively used the BOB Revolution Flex 3.0, and have tested several others through friends and at outdoor gear stores. ## **Jogging Stroller vs. All-Terrain Stroller: What’s the Difference?** People use these terms interchangeably, but if you’re shopping seriously, the distinction matters and buying the wrong type is the most common mistake I see parents make. A **jogging stroller** is built for *speed on relatively smooth surfaces*. The defining features are a fixed or lockable front wheel (so it tracks straight when you’re running and doesn’t wobble at pace) and a hand brake for controlling descents. If your main goal is running on paved paths, packed gravel, or your neighborhood, a true jogging stroller like the [Thule Urban Glide 3.0](https://amzn.to/4dS5XLE) is what you want — the hand brake alone is worth it on hills. An **all-terrain stroller** prioritizes *suspension and rugged wheels over speed*. These are built to absorb impact on roots, rocks, sand, and snow rather than to run fast in a straight line. [The BOB Revolution Flex 3.0](https://amzn.to/3RO7olO) is the classic example, heavier, tougher, with suspension that soaks up terrain that would jar a lighter jogger. The overlap is real: most quality strollers in this guide do both reasonably well, which is why “jogging stroller” and “all-terrain stroller” get used as synonyms. But here’s the honest rule of thumb from six years of pushing both: - **Mostly running on smooth surfaces?** Prioritize a lockable front wheel + hand brake (jogging-first). - **Mostly hiking trails, beaches, or snow?** Prioritize suspension and bigger air-filled tires (all-terrain-first). - **Both?** Get a model that splits the difference :[the BOB Revolution Flex](https://amzn.to/3RO7olO) or [Thule Urban Glide](https://amzn.to/4fvtlQo) are the safest all-rounders. --- Buying an off-road jogging stroller definitely made transitioning to life with a new baby easier for me. Instead of being stuck in “baby prison,” I was still able to get outdoors and do things like jogging, [camping](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-with-baby/) and [hiking with my baby](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-with-baby/). Even with an off-road jogging stroller, getting outdoors with a baby still isn’t easy. There’s a lot to figure out. You’ll definitely need to carry a bunch of crap around with you (literally and figuratively!). But a jogging stroller can be looked at as a tool which makes it all easier. Oh, and if anyone tries to say you are crazy for getting outdoors with a young baby or little kid, just casually remind them of all the [benefits that come with getting kids outdoors](https://momgoescamping.com/reasons-to-take-kids-camping/) from a young age like lower incidences of asthma, allergies, and even fewer mental disorders like depression. 😀 **Heading out soon?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup. **[Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** [Click here to get it!](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets) ## Quick Picks: Best Hiking Strollers at a Glance *Jump to detailed reviews below or use this comparison to find your perfect match based on budget and needs.* ### 🏆 #1 Best Value: BOB Revolution Flex 3.0 ~$590-650 **Best For:** Parents wanting premium off-road performance without breaking the bank **Key Features:** Mountain-bike suspension • Adjustable handlebar (9 positions) • 75lb capacity • Folds with fabric inward **Trade-off:** No hand brake, two-handed fold, bulky when folded ### 🥈 #2 Most Features: Thule Urban Glide 3.0 ~$650 **Best For:** Runners on hilly terrain who need excellent braking control **Key Features:** Hand brake + foot brake • One-handed fold • Lighter weight (26.2lbs) • Compact folded size **Trade-off:** Premium price, folds with fabric outward, wider door pass-through (27″) ### 🥉 #3 Best Suspension: BOB Alterrain Pro ~$750-800 **Best For:** Serious trail runners tackling technical terrain **Key Features:** Premium suspension • Waterproof canopy • Hand brake • One-handed fold **Trade-off:** High price, heaviest option (32.3lbs), folds with fabric outward ### 💰 Budget Pick: Britax B-Free ~$350-400 **Best For:** Occasional light trail use and everyday errands **Key Features:** Lightweight (22lbs) • One-handed fold • Rubber tires (no pumping) **Trade-off:** No suspension system, smaller wheels, only 65lb capacity ### 🎯 Most Versatile: Veer Switchback Jog ~$900+ **Best For:** Hardcore adventurers who camp, bike, and hike regularly **Key Features:** Seat works as bike seat, camp chair, booster • Adjustable suspension • Hose washable • 80lb capacity **Trade-off:** Very expensive, narrow seat (11.5″), extra accessories cost more ### Price Range Guide | Price Range | What You Get | Models | |---|---|---| | **$200-350** | Basic off-road capability, good for light trails and park paths | Jeep Hydro Sport Plus | | **$350-450** | Everyday stroller that handles some bumps, no serious suspension | Britax B-Free | | **$550-700** | Excellent suspension, durable construction, premium features | BOB Revolution Flex 3.0, Thule Urban Glide 3.0, BOB Wayfinder, UPPAbaby Ridge | | **$750-900** | Top-tier suspension, waterproof features, serious trail performance | BOB Alterrain Pro, Thule Chariot (varies by model) | | **$900+** | Multi-use systems, innovative features, highest quality materials | Veer Switchback, Thule Chariot Sport | **💡 Pro Tip:** If you’re serious about hiking and running with your stroller 2-3+ times per week, invest in the $550-700 range. If you only need occasional off-road use (once a month or less), the budget options will work fine. For hardcore adventurers who camp and hike weekly, consider the premium tier—you’ll use it enough to justify the cost. --- ***⬇️ Keep reading for in-depth reviews with real-world testing, pros & cons, and buying advice ⬇️*** ## Best All-Terrain Strollers Reviewed ### 1. [BOB Revolution Flex 3.0](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0829PMJ8D?ref=t_ac_view_request_product_image&campaignId=amzn1.campaign.3NUO6NVAZPKTN&linkCode=tr1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=amzn1.campaign.3NUO6NVAZPKTN_1717065405219) **My Experience:** This is my personal stroller, and I’ve put it through six years of heavy use. I’ve pushed it through muddy forest trails, over snow-covered sidewalks during Canadian winters, and across rocky beach paths. The suspension has held up remarkably well, and I’ve only needed to replace the tubes once (after running over some thorny branches on a camping trip). **Verdict:** Great stroller for really tough terrain and snow. It has fully upright seating and folds with the fabric inwards. It doesn’t have a hand break so it’s not ideal for jogging on steep hills. While not as feature-rich as the #2 and #3 picks, it gets my vote because it is more affordable and has proven durable over years of use. #### Features - 12.5″ front wheel; 16″ back wheels - Air-filled tires - 28.5lbs - 75lbs capacity - Foot brake - Adjustable handle - Lockable front wheel - Folded dimensions: 39″L x 24.5″W x 16″H - Open dimensions: 45″L x 24.5″W x 43″H - Interior seat width: 14.5″ - Max child height: 44″ [Buy here at Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0829PMJ8D?ref=t_ac_view_request_product_image&campaignId=amzn1.campaign.3NUO6NVAZPKTN&linkCode=tr1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=amzn1.campaign.3NUO6NVAZPKTN_1717065405219) or [here at REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F178726%2Fbob-gear-revolution-flex-30-jogging-stroller) #### In-Depth Review: BOB stands for Beast of Burden and, yes, it lives up to its name. The stroller has a great suspension system which allows it to handle tough terrain better than most similar strollers in this price range. I’ve found that it glides over tree roots and rocks that would jar other strollers. The tradeoff is that the BOB Revolution is very large. It takes two steps to fold down and, even when completely collapsed, might not fit in the trunk of some small cars. The brand did a good job of designing this hiking and jogging stroller. It has so many extras like an adjustable seat, padded handles which adjust to 9 positions (which really saves your wrists going up or downhill!), a wrist strap, reflectors, huge basket and pockets. Your child will be comfortable because of the great ventilation and canopy with UV 50 protection. **Real-world performance:** I’ve used this stroller on everything from groomed bike paths to rough forest trails. On smooth surfaces, it rolls effortlessly with one hand. On bumpy trails, the suspension really shines—my kids have fallen asleep in it even on moderately rocky paths. The 9-position handlebar adjustment has been essential since my husband is 6’2″ and I’m 5’4″. We adjust it every time we switch who’s pushing. **What I wish it had:** A hand brake would be nice for steep downhills, though the foot brake works well once you get used to it. The two-handed fold is manageable but annoying when you’re juggling a kid and gear. Read the full [BOB Revolution Flex 3.0 review](https://momgoescamping.com/bob-revolution-flex-3-0-review/) here. #### Pros - Car seat compatible (with adapter bar) - Fully upright seating option - Adjustable suspension - Handlebar has 9 positions - 5-point harness - Ventilation in multiple areas - UPF 50 canopy that goes all the way down - Wrist strap, huge basket, peek-a-boo window and other nice extras - Folds with fabric facing inward (stays clean) #### Cons - Two-handed folding - Very large and bulky, even when folded - No hand brake Buy the BOB here on [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0829PMJ8D?ref=t_ac_view_request_product_image&campaignId=amzn1.campaign.3NUO6NVAZPKTN&linkCode=tr1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=amzn1.campaign.3NUO6NVAZPKTN_1717065405219) or here at [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F178726%2Fbob-gear-revolution-flex-30-jogging-stroller) --- ### 2. [Thule Urban Glide 3.0](https://amzn.to/3IWN3mD) **My Experience:** I’ve tested this stroller extensively at REI and through a friend who owns one. I’ve taken it on several day hikes and neighborhood runs to compare it directly with my BOB. **Verdict:** Has amazing suspension system that can handle tough terrain but is lighter and more compact than BOB strollers. Great for ease-of-use, car seat compatibility and has tons of features. The hand brake is a game-changer on hilly terrain. It’s pricy though! #### Features - 16″ rear wheels, 12″ front wheel - Air-filled tires - 26.2lbs - 75lbs capacity - Twist hand brake AND foot brake - Adjustable handlebar - Lockable front wheel - Folded dimensions: 34.6″L x 22.8″W x 12.2″H - One-handed fold - Fully upright seating #### In-Depth Review: The Thule Urban Glide off-road jogging stroller has long been a favorite with outdoorsy parents. It’s tough enough for hiking trips but lighter than other hiking and jogging strollers. They recently upgraded it to the 3.0 version, which has even more features. One of the standout features is the twist-hand brake. This makes it very easy to control speed on hilly terrain. During my test runs, I found the hand brake much more intuitive than using only a foot brake, especially on steep descents where you want gradual speed control. The foot brake is also large and easy to use. I love that you can fold the Urban Glide with just one hand. You just need to pull a blue bar located under the foot rest. Once the stroller has been folded, you can even fold in the wheels. This makes the stroller fold down very compact, so it could even fit in smaller cars. Like all one-handed fold hiking strollers though, this means that it folds with the fabric outwards. There is a universal car seat adapter (sold separately), so you can use this hiking stroller with babies too. **Comparison with BOB:** Having used both, the Thule feels more refined and easier to maneuver in tight spaces. The lighter weight (2 pounds less than the BOB) is noticeable when lifting it into a car. However, my BOB has proven more durable over years of heavy use—some parents report the Thule’s fabric showing wear faster. As for downsides, it is annoying that the stroller folds with the fabric outwards, which is a problem if you need to fold it somewhere muddy. I also wish it had more extras like a cup holder included (it’s sold separately). Unlike the Urban Glide 2.0, the 3.0 version has fully-upright seating. Also note that the door pass-through on the Urban Glide 3.0 is 27.2 inches, which is two inches more than with BOB strollers—something to consider if you have narrow doorways. #### Pros - One-handed folding - Hand and foot brakes - Fully upright seating option (new in 3.0) - Universal car seat compatibility - Zip storage compartment - Lighter than most competitors - Excellent maneuverability #### Cons - High price point - Folds with fabric outwards - 27 inch door pass-through (wider than some doorways) - Cup holder and extras sold separately [Get the Thule Urban Glide 3.0 Here on Amazon](https://amzn.to/2NU9flO) --- ### 3. [BOB Alterrain Pro](https://www.amazon.com/BOB-Gear-Alterrain-Jogging-Stroller/dp/B07XV1WLSC?&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=7ae488bb1cdbdfba6230e1c4051c2d84&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) **My Experience:** I’ve tested this model on technical mountain trails and compared it side-by-side with my Revolution Flex. My friend who hikes regularly in the Pacific Northwest swears by hers for serious trail running. **Verdict:** The best for serious terrain and trail jogging. The upgraded suspension handles technical trails better than almost any other stroller. If it were slightly cheaper and more compact, it would be the #1 or #2 pick. #### Features - 16″ rear wheels, 12.5″ front wheel - Air-filled tires with premium suspension - 32.3lbs - 75lbs capacity - Hand brake AND foot brake - Adjustable handlebar (9 positions) - Lockable front wheel - Folded dimensions: 39.3″L x 25.5″W x 17″H - One-handed fold - Fully waterproof canopy #### In-Depth Review: All BOB strollers have insanely good suspension systems, but the Alterrain Pro takes it to even higher standards. It also has some features which are lacking on the Revolution Flex. (See [how the Alterrain and Revolution Flex compare](https://momgoescamping.com/bob-revolution-flex-3-0-vs-bob-alterrain-strollers/) here). In particular, the Alterrain Pro has one-handed opening—something that makes it much easier to use. However, this means that it (like the Thule Urban Glide) folds with the fabric outwards. The Alterrain Pro also has a hand brake (something the Revolution Flex and regular Alterrain do not have). While the hand brake isn’t nearly as good as the one on the Thule Urban Glide, it’s still nice to have for controlling speed on steep descents. **On the trail:** The difference in suspension quality becomes obvious on technical terrain. On a rocky trail with lots of roots and embedded stones, the Alterrain Pro absorbed impacts noticeably better than my Revolution Flex. My kids stayed asleep through sections that would typically wake them in other strollers. There are also some other nice features, like a fully-waterproof canopy, many handlebar positions, lots of reflector trim, tons of pockets, and UPF protection. It’s also slightly smaller than the Revolution when folded with the wheels off, so fits small cars better. #### Alterrain vs. Alterrain Pro There are two versions of this jogging stroller: the Alterrain and Alterrain Pro. The regular Alterrain does not have a hand brake, waterproof canopy (it’s just water resistant), enclosed basket, venting on the canopy, or lots of reflective trim. Because the Pro version isn’t that much more expensive, I’d only recommend getting the Pro. If you want to save money and don’t need a hand brake, then get the Revolution Flex 3.0 instead. See the Alterrain [here on Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/BOB-Gear-Alterrain-Adjustable-Handlebar/dp/B089R45QRC?&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=e35e2b0d3ba1a546fc713c5195d68cfc&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) and here at [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F174791%2Fbob-gear-alterrain-pro-jogging-stroller-black). #### Pros - Insanely good suspension system—the best for technical trails - Hand and foot brake - One-handed folding - Fully waterproof canopy with UPF protection - Compatible with many car seats - Excellent for serious runners and hikers #### Cons - High price point - Folds with fabric facing outwards - Handle brake in a slightly awkward position - Heavier than some competitors [Get the BOB Alterrain Pro at Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/BOB-Gear-Alterrain-Jogging-Stroller/dp/B07XV1WLSC?&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=7ae488bb1cdbdfba6230e1c4051c2d84&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) or here [at REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F174791%2Fbob-gear-alterrain-pro-jogging-stroller-black) --- ### 4. [BOB Wayfinder](https://amzn.to/3TG511p) **Verdict:** The toughness of a BOB jogging stroller with a more compact design. Best for parents who need serious off-road capability but have limited vehicle space. #### Features - 16″ rear wheels, 12″ front wheel - Air-filled tires - 31.1lbs - 75lbs capacity - Hand brake AND foot brake - Adjustable handlebar - Lockable front wheel - Folded dimensions: 32.5″L x 22″W x 16.5″H - One-handed fold - 44″ length when open (more compact!) #### In-Depth Review: The Wayfinder is the newest off-road jogging stroller by BOB Gear. The suspension system is on par with the Revolution Flex 3.0, though not as advanced as the Alterrain Pro. It has a hand brake and a lot of nice extra features like storage pockets. The real reason to choose the Wayfinder is because it is more compact than other BOB strollers. It folds down much smaller, so is better for vehicles with limited trunk size. It also is 44″ long when open. Other BOB strollers are 46″ long and the Thule is 48″. Those extra few inches can make a big difference when maneuvering around town! **Who this is for:** If you drive a compact car or frequently navigate tight spaces (narrow store aisles, small elevators, etc.) but still want BOB-quality off-road performance, the Wayfinder hits a sweet spot. You sacrifice a bit of suspension quality compared to the Alterrain Pro, but gain significant practicality. #### Pros - More compact than other rugged strollers - Great suspension system - Hand and foot brake - One-handed folding - Lots of storage extras - Compatible with many car seats - Easier to maneuver in tight spaces #### Cons - High price point - Folds with fabric facing outwards - Suspension not quite as robust as Alterrain Pro [Get the BOB Wayfinder at Amazon](https://amzn.to/3CsgnSp) or [here at REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F230963%2Fbob-gear-wayfinder-jogging-stroller) --- ### 5. [Thule Chariot Bike Trailer/All-Terrain Stroller](https://amzn.to/3ZubRKz) **Verdict:** Good if you want just one piece of gear for biking, hiking, and even skiing. The versatility is unmatched, though the lineup options can be confusing. #### Features - Converts between bike trailer, jogging stroller, and ski sled - Air-filled tires - 25.8lbs (frame only) - 75lbs capacity (combined for 2 kids) - Hand brake (on some models) - Adjustable suspension (on some models) - Folded dimensions: 34.2″L x 31.5″W x 15″H - Available in 1-child and 2-child versions #### In-Depth Review: Do you have a smaller stroller for everyday use and need something for adventures? Consider getting the Thule Chariot. It has a conversion kit that allows you to use it as a 4-wheel offroad stroller, 3-wheel jogging stroller, or a sled for skiing. The “Thule VersaWing system” means that you can quickly convert between activities—I’ve watched parents switch from stroller to bike trailer in under 60 seconds. Other than the high price, the only frustrating thing about the Thule Chariot is that its lineup is confusing. There are currently 4 options in the Chariot line: Sport, Cross, Lite, and Cheetah XT. Each model of Chariot includes the trailer, rear wheels, stroller conversion, and cycling attachment. Here’s the difference between them: - **Chariot Sport:** This is the model with the most features. It has adjustable suspension, reclining seats, padding, removable side panels, and comes with a hand brake and lock kit. - **Chariot Cross:** Has a seat which can recline, padded seats, removable side panels, and adjustable suspension. It differs from the Sport in that it doesn’t come with a hand brake or lock kit (sold separately). - **Chariot Lite:** Does not have adjustable suspension or reclining seats and has less padding - **Chariot Cheetah XT:** Does not have any suspension, does not have seat padding, and the handlebar only has 2 heights. The rain cover isn’t removable. **Real-world use:** Friends who own the Chariot Sport love it for family bike rides and trail adventures. The ability to bike to a trailhead, switch to stroller mode, and hike is genuinely useful. However, as a dedicated jogging stroller, it doesn’t perform quite as well as the purpose-built BOB or Thule Urban Glide models. #### Pros - One frame for multiple activities - Easily switches between stroller and bike trailer - Fast and easy to collapse - Front wheels come off for storage - Great suspension (on higher-end models) - Lots of storage space - Available in 2-child version #### Cons - Confusing options and extras - Pricy - Not quite as refined for jogging as dedicated joggers - Takes up more space due to trailer design --- ### 6. [Britax B-Free Stroller](https://www.amazon.com/Britax-B-Free-Stroller-Compatible-Adjustable/dp/B07PKDLFR3?th=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=2e3577053a6f45de9c355b17cfcdca4e&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) **Verdict:** More budget-friendly jogging and hiking stroller for everyday use which can handle some bumpy trails. Best for light trail use and parents on a tighter budget. #### Features - Rubber tires (not air-filled) - 22lbs - 65lbs capacity - Foot brake - Adjustable handle - Lockable front wheel - Folded dimensions: 32″x24″x 15″ [Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/Britax-B-Free-Stroller-Compatible-Adjustable/dp/B07PKDLFR3?th=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=2e3577053a6f45de9c355b17cfcdca4e&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) #### In-Depth Review: As far as hiking and jogging strollers go, the Britax B-Free is very affordable. However, when it comes to hiking or off-road use, it isn’t nearly as capable as the pricier options by BOB or Thule. It doesn’t have a suspension system or shocks and the rubber wheels are smaller. Despite this, the stroller can still handle some tougher terrain and even go over packed snow (it won’t be easy, but it’s possible!). There are also some other nice features, like lots of handle positions and storage. **Best use case:** If you want just one stroller for everyday use plus occasional hiking on groomed trails or gravel paths, this is a good solution. Don’t expect it to handle technical trails, but for park paths and light off-road use, it’s surprisingly capable for the price. **What you’re giving up:** The lack of suspension becomes obvious on bumpy terrain. Your child will feel more jostling, and you’ll feel more vibration in your hands. The smaller wheels also struggle more with soft surfaces like sand or deep gravel. #### Pros - One-handed folding - Lightweight - No need to pump tires - Good storage space - Affordable price - Great for everyday use #### Cons - Not for rough terrain - No hand brake - Small wheels - No suspension system - Lower weight capacity (65lbs vs 75lbs) --- ### 7. [Jeep Hydro Sport Plus Stroller](https://amzn.to/3ZsrcuT) **Verdict:** Budget hiking stroller for kids up to 50lbs. Good for occasional trail walking but not for serious hikers or runners. #### Features - Air-filled tires - 29lbs - 50lbs capacity (note: this is lower than most) - Foot brake - Lockable front wheel - Folded dimensions: 17.5″L x 14.9″W x 30.5″H [Buy Here](https://amzn.to/3ZsrcuT) #### In-Depth Review: Considering it is so cheaply priced, the Jeep Hydro Sport Plus jogger stroller actually gives a pretty smooth ride when walking on trails. However, the suspension system doesn’t compare to the more expensive brands which use mountain bike suspension systems: the stroller will start to wobble on bumpy trails or if you try to run on smooth trails. Despite this, the stroller is still good enough for some occasional off-road use. **Important note:** Jeep also makes a cheaper stroller called the “Cross Country.” This one does not have a suspension system. If you plan on going off-road with your baby, pay a bit more to get the Hydro Sport Plus with suspension! **The catch:** The 50lb weight limit is significantly lower than other strollers (most are 75lbs). This means you’ll outgrow it sooner, especially considering that limit includes your child plus anything in the basket. #### Pros - Very affordable - One handed folding - Cup holder and tray included - Wheels easily removable for storage #### Cons - Suspension not the best - Only for 50lbs (much lower than competitors) - Wobbles at higher speeds - Not as durable for long-term use [Buy the Jeep Hydro Sport Plus Here](https://amzn.to/3ZsrcuT) --- ### 8. [UPPAbaby Ridge](https://amzn.to/4g2K7nd) **Verdict:** Choose if you want foam-filled tires instead of air-filled. Otherwise, choose a BOB or Thule stroller. #### Features - 16″ rear wheels, 12″ front wheel - Foam-filled tires (never need inflating!) - 29.2lbs - 55lbs capacity - Hand brake - Adjustable handlebar - Lockable front wheel - Folded dimensions: 36.5″L x 26″W x 18.5″H - One-handed fold #### In-Depth Review: The UPPAbaby Ridge is another high-end stroller with an amazing suspension system for going off-road. It also has some nice features like tons of storage pockets, comfortable seat and lots of ventilation. The feature that really sets it apart though is the foam-filled wheels. You don’t have to worry about filling them or having them pop like with air-filled tires. This is genuinely appealing if you’ve ever dealt with a flat tire mid-hike. However, the UPPAbaby Ridge is very pricy and doesn’t have upright seating. The weight limit is also lower than other good off-road strollers (55lbs vs 75lbs). **The foam tire tradeoff:** While you never have to pump them, foam-filled tires don’t absorb shock quite as well as properly inflated air tires. The difference is subtle on most terrain but noticeable on very bumpy trails. So, unless foam-filled tires are really important to you, I’d go with a BOB or Thule stroller for better value and performance. #### Pros - Foam filled tires (maintenance-free) - Great suspension system - One handed folding - Lots of storage - Wheels easily removable for storage - Premium materials and construction #### Cons - Expensive - Only for 55lbs (lower capacity) - No fully upright seating - Foam tires don’t cushion quite as well as air --- ### 9. [Veer Switchback Jog](https://amzn.to/3IWprOS) **Verdict:** Best for serious adventurers with a large budget who want one seat that works everywhere—stroller, bike, camp chair. #### Features - 16″ rear wheels, 12″ front wheel - Air-filled tires - 27.7lbs - 80lbs capacity - Hand brake - Adjustable suspension on each wheel - Folded dimensions: 25.5″L x 35″W x 19.0″H - One-handed fold - Seat detaches for use as bike seat, camp chair, or booster #### In-Depth Review: The brand Veer specializes in hardcore outdoor gear for babies and children, like [off-road wagons](https://momgoescamping.com/best-camping-wagons/). Their products come at a very high cost but are insanely cool and well-made. This stroller system consists of their Switchback seat plus a 3-wheel jogging frame. There is also a 4-wheel stroller frame that can also go off-road. The 4-wheel frame can fit two Switchback seats (the jogger only fits one), in case you need a double stroller. The stroller frame has an insane suspension system on each wheel and it’s adjustable. The front wheel also has adjustable tracking. The hand brake is awesome at decelerating and the system really can handle tough off-road use. You can detach the seat and all parts can be hosed down for easy cleaning. Perfect for when you go off-roading with your baby through a mud pit 😀 **The Switchback advantage:** The standout feature is that the seat can be used in other ways. It can be your child’s bike seat, camp chair, or even a portable booster seat. For some of these functions though, you need to buy accessories—and those are also not cheap. **Real-world value:** If you’re the kind of parent who bikes to trailheads, [camps frequently](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-with-baby/), and truly uses all these features, the Switchback system can replace multiple pieces of gear. But if you’re mainly using it as a jogging stroller, you’re paying a premium for features you may rarely use. If the Switchback was cheaper, it would be my #1 pick. But, because it is so expensive, I can only recommend it for super hardcore parents or those who have a high budget and will actually use all the versatility. #### Pros - Use seat on bike, as camp chair, as booster… - Insanely good suspension system - Hose washable (everything!) - Easy to open/close - Innovative design - Excellent build quality #### Cons - Narrow 11.5″ seat width - Wide door pass-through - Very expensive - Extra accessories also costly - Overkill if you won’t use all features Buy the Veer Switchback system here at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3vEIyKc) or [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F248488%2Fveer-switchjog-luxe-jogging-stroller-bundle) --- ## Hiking Strollers Comparison Table | Stroller | Capacity | Stroller Weight | Hand Brake | Folded Size | One-Handed Fold? | Fully Upright Seating | |---|---|---|---|---|---|---| | BOB Revolution Flex 3.0 | 75lbs | 28.5lbs | No | 38″x25″x16″ | No | Yes | | Thule Urban Glide 3.0 | 75lbs | 26.2lbs | Yes | 34.6″x22.8″x12.2″ | Yes | Yes | | BOB Alterrain Pro | 75lbs | 32.3lbs | Yes | 39.3″x25.5″x17″ | Yes | Yes | | Britax B-Free Stroller | 65lbs | 22lbs | No | 32″x24″x 15″ | Yes | No | | Jeep Hydro Sport Plus | 50lbs | 29lbs | No | 30.5″x17.5″x14.9″ | Yes | No | | BOB Wayfinder | 75lbs | 31.1lbs | Yes | 32.5″x22″x16.5″ | Yes | Yes | | UPPAbaby Ridge | 55lbs | 29.2lbs | Yes | 36.5″x26″x18.5″ | Yes | No | | Thule Chariot | 75lbs | 25.8lbs | Yes\* | 34.2″x31.5″x 15″ | No | Yes | | Veer Switchback Jog | 80lbs | 27.7lbs | Yes | 25.5″x35″x19.0″ | Yes | Yes | *\*Hand brake availability varies by Chariot model* --- ## How to Choose an All-Terrain Stroller for Hiking ### Baby Carrier or Off-Road Stroller? Hiking strollers are awesome at navigating trails and going off-road. They are also great for snow and ice. But you need to be realistic. Even the best off-road strollers aren’t going to be able to handle tough trails with narrow paths, steep inclines, or technical terrain. If you want to do any serious hiking on small pathways or steep inclines, you’ll need a [baby carrier](https://momgoescamping.com/soft-vs-frame-backpack-hiking-carrier/). Also bear in mind that all-terrain strollers are heavy. Add in the weight of your child and it’s going to be tiring to push on a bumpy path. I’ve found that pushing 60+ pounds (stroller + child + [gear](https://momgoescamping.com/gear-hiking-baby/)) uphill on a rocky trail is a serious workout. On the flip side, it’s also tiring to carry a baby in a carrier. My second kid had to be born with an emergency C-section, so I definitely wasn’t carrying her in a carrier the first couple months! **My recommendation:** Use a stroller for wide, relatively flat trails and groomed paths. Switch to a carrier for narrow, steep, or technical trails. Many hiking parents keep both options available. For more detailed guidance, check out [these tips for using child hiking carriers](https://momgoescamping.com/tips-child-hiking-carriers/). Read more about [strollers vs. carriers for hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/stroller-vs-hiking-carrier/) here. ![stroller in snowy conditions](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/4850518470_7fc9f57664_z.jpg) ![hiking stroller on snow and ice](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/stroller-in-snow-and-ice.jpg) ### Size and Practicality Sorry to break it to you, but you won’t find a lightweight, compact all-terrain stroller. These strollers have to be made from heavy-duty construction in order to navigate tough terrain. They also need to be big enough to remain stable. Unfortunately, this means that most hiking strollers are too big for everyday use. Don’t be surprised if the all-terrain stroller won’t fit in narrow supermarket aisles, elevators, and other tight places. Once I even had a sitcom-worthy incident where my stroller knocked over a giant display in a store! When folded, the hiking stroller might not even fit in your car. You might have to remove wheels just to get it inside, which is super annoying when those wheels are covered in mud. ![tiny elevator not stroller accessible](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/tiny-elevator.jpg) #### My family’s solution? We have two strollers. Our main stroller is the “beast” (BOB Revolution Flex 3.0) which we use for hiking as well as everyday tasks and trips to the playground. Then we also have a much smaller stroller that can be opened/closed with one hand. This is the stroller we use when we will be going anywhere by bus or are traveling by airplane. It’s also the stroller that we take when going anywhere by car because it’s much easier to get in/out of the trunk of the car. I know that having to get two separate strollers sucks. But, realistically, you aren’t going to find one single stroller that meets all of your needs. **Warning!** Be cautious when switching back to a smaller stroller. After you get used to an off-road stroller, it’s easy to forget that you can’t just plow over broken sidewalks! My poor kid has gotten a lot of jolts this way. 😮 ### Suspension System For [hiking on bumpy trails](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-with-baby/), you’ll need a stroller with a really good suspension system. The suspension system absorbs shock and ensures the wheels can maneuver well over obstacles. It is what gives your baby a smooth ride. It also removes strain on your wrists (trust me: this matters when pushing a stroller over bumpy paths for hours!). **Why brand matters here:** I usually don’t care about brand names when shopping for gear. But, with hiking strollers, this is a time where brand reputation matters. When you get an off-road stroller from a brand like Thule or BOB, you can count on the suspension to be good quality. They use mountain-bike type suspension systems. The technology has gotten crazy good in recent years, but does come at a cost. **From experience:** I’ve pushed cheaper strollers with basic suspension on the same trails I’ve used with my BOB. The difference is night and day. With a good suspension system, tree roots barely register. With a cheap one, every root sends a jolt through your wrists and wakes your sleeping baby. ### Wheel Size If the stroller is going to maneuver over tree roots, grass, gravel, and old cobblestone streets, it needs to have big wheels. The best all-terrain strollers have back wheels that are around 16 inches in diameter, and a front wheel which is around 12 inches. Yes, these wheels are large, which means the stroller is going to be large. But smaller stroller wheels simply can’t handle rough terrain. They get stuck in divots, struggle with obstacles, and make pushing exponentially harder. ![stroller with large wheels on sand](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/stroller-bob-on-sand.jpg) ![stroller with small wheels struggling on sand](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/stroller-with-small-wheels-on-sand.jpg) *Notice the difference? Large wheels on the left handle sand effortlessly. Small wheels on the right sink and struggle.* ### Weight Capacity Most all-terrain hiking and jogging strollers have weight limits of up to 75lbs. However, there are many that have weight limits of only around 50lbs. Remember that the weight capacity is for the child PLUS anything you’ve got in the basket. If you are like me and use your stroller to haul a week’s worth of groceries, you can quickly surpass this limit. **Think long-term:** A 50lb limit might seem fine for your toddler, but factor in: – How fast your child grows – The weight of items in the basket (my diaper bag alone is 10lbs!) – How long you want to use this stroller (buying 75lb capacity means years more use) ### Air-Filled or Rubber Tires? All the best all-terrain strollers will have air-filled tires. The UPPAbaby Ridge is an exception (it has foam-filled tires). Yes, you do have to pump air-filled tires occasionally. But they really do maneuver much better than rubber tires, especially when it comes to handling bumps. Likewise, they are much better on the beach. #### What if you get a flat? Instead of calling your hike quits and rushing off to the bike repair shop, you can just carry a little container of [Slime Tube Sealant](https://amzn.to/3JR15Ht). The stuff is awesome at fixing flats, even when you are in the middle of a long hike! I keep a bottle in my car at all times. **Pro tip:** Make sure you get good tubes for your stroller wheels. A lot of parents said their stroller wheels were constantly going flat. Then they got better tubes and the problem was solved. Invest in quality tubes from the start—it’s worth it. ### Lockable Front Wheel If you want to jog with the hiking stroller, you’ll need one with a lockable wheel. It is more stable for your baby and prevents the wobbling that happens at speed with an unlocked wheel. However, when hiking on tough terrain, the unlocked position is better because it’s easier to maneuver around obstacles this way. **My usage pattern:** I lock the wheel for jogging on paved paths or smooth trails. I unlock it for technical trails, tight turns, and navigating crowded spaces. ### 5-Point Safety Harness Pretty much every off-road stroller is going to have this feature. On a side note, I think that ALL strollers (off-road or regular) should have 5-point harness. Maybe your baby isn’t as squirmy as mine, but I know that the harness has kept her from falling out of the stroller on several occasions! ### Adjustable Handlebar When you push a stroller with handlebars at an awkward height, it can put a lot of strain on your wrists. Now imagine pushing the stroller over uneven terrain while your wrist is in a weird position! You might get lucky and find a stroller which has the handlebars at the exact right height for you. But is your partner at the same height? Probably not. So, I believe that an adjustable handlebar is a must-have feature in all strollers (not just hiking strollers). For this reason, only strollers with adjustable handles made my best of list. **Height differences matter:** My husband and I have a 10-inch height difference. Without an adjustable handlebar, one of us would always be uncomfortable. The 9 positions on the BOB Revolution mean we both can find a comfortable pushing height. ### Car Seat Compatibility Some all-terrain strollers come with adapters that allow you to put an infant car seat over them. This is useful because you’ll be able to use the stroller from day 1. Without a car seat adapter, you’ll probably need to wait until your child is 6-8 weeks old to put them in the all-terrain stroller. The car seat adapter is also nice if you don’t want to wake your sleeping baby (and who wants to wake a baby?) when transferring her from the car seat to the stroller. Just be warned that an off-road stroller with a car seat on top is going to be even bulkier and heavier. You definitely don’t want to push the stroller off-road with the car seat on top. This is only for situations like grocery shopping or walking on flat, smooth paths! ### Seating Positions (Including Fully Upright) When going over tough terrain, it’s best to have your baby sitting at an incline. This will help distribute the impact over their entire body instead of focusing it at the head and spine (as would happen when sitting straight up). However, it’s also nice to have fully upright seating, such as if you want to feed your child while they are sitting in the stroller. A lot of off-road strollers don’t have fully-upright seating though. For example, the Thule Urban Glide 2.0 doesn’t (the upgraded 3.0 version does). Note that some cheap all-terrain strollers have hammock-type seats. The idea of these seats is that the hammock configuration prevents the baby from banging against the stroller. I personally think these aren’t great options though. You can’t adjust them and there are times when you’ll want your kid sitting upright or lying down. ### Accessories (especially for a second kid) The big thing you want to consider is whether you will have a second kid. If this is the case, then it’s nice to get an all-terrain stroller that can attach a ride-along board. The ride-along boards don’t exactly handle well on off-road terrain, but they are a great option to have around town. **From experience:** When my second was a baby and my first was a toddler, the ride-along board attached to our BOB was a lifesaver for trips to the store or zoo. ### Other Nice Features - **Tether/Safety Wrist Strap:** If the stroller doesn’t come with a tether, you can use [something like this instead](https://amzn.to/34QTPFg). Just attach one side to your wrist and another to the stroller handlebars. We use one of the coil-style tethers (pictured in the original images) instead of a standard tether for our stroller. I like that the coil expands long, so we don’t have to worry about pulling the stroller down with us if we fall. - **Snack tray:** These are nice. Though I find that the baby cup holder is always useless. Your kid will probably just toss the cup out of the stroller. Instead, I use a piece of paracord and the two-half hitches knot to tie my baby’s sippy cup to the stroller. The knot slides, so I can easily remove the cup. - **Cup holder (for parent):** Coffeeeee!!!! Though note that your coffee will probably slosh around on uneven terrain. I usually end up using the cup holder for holding trash or random things that come with parenthood. - **Pockets:** You’d be surprised how much a few pockets in your stroller will make your life easier. It’s nice to be able to have things close at hand, and to toss random items in there. I keep snacks, sunscreen, and my phone in the handlebar pocket for quick access. --- ## FAQ: All-Terrain Strollers for Hiking and Jogging ### 1. What is an all-terrain stroller? An all-terrain stroller is designed for outdoor adventures, with larger, durable wheels and suspension systems to handle rough, uneven surfaces like gravel, dirt, grass, and packed trails. It’s perfect for hiking, jogging, and off-road adventures with your little one. The key differences from regular strollers are the larger wheels (typically 12-16″), better suspension, and more rugged construction. ### 2. Can I use an all-terrain stroller for regular walks? Absolutely! While all-terrain strollers are built for more rugged terrain, they are just as suitable for everyday walks in the park or around the neighborhood. Their sturdy design ensures a smooth ride even on smooth surfaces. However, keep in mind that they’re larger and heavier than regular strollers, which can make them less convenient for tight spaces like store aisles or small elevators. ### 3. What are the benefits of using an all-terrain stroller for hiking? - **Smooth Ride:** The larger wheels and good suspension provide a smoother, more comfortable ride for your child, even on bumpy trails. - **Versatility:** These strollers are built to handle a variety of terrains, from rocky paths to forest trails to snow-covered sidewalks. - **Durability:** Designed to last, they can withstand outdoor conditions better than regular strollers. - **Storage:** Most have larger baskets perfect for hauling [camping gear](https://momgoescamping.com/baby-camping-checklist-printable/), diaper bags, and groceries. ### 4. How do I choose the best all-terrain hiking and jogging stroller? When selecting an all-terrain stroller, consider the following: - **Wheel Size:** Larger wheels (16 inches or more on back wheels) are better for rougher terrain. - **Suspension:** A good suspension system helps absorb shock, making the ride smoother for both you and your baby. BOB and Thule brands are known for excellent suspension. - **Weight:** Look for a balance between sturdy construction and manageability. Most quality models range from 26-32 lbs. - **Storage:** Ensure there’s enough storage space for your gear and baby essentials. - **Hand Brake:** Essential if you plan to jog on hilly terrain. - **Folding mechanism:** Consider whether one-handed folding is important for your lifestyle. ### 5. Are all-terrain strollers safe for newborns? Most all-terrain strollers are not suitable for newborns directly. However, many models are compatible with infant car seats through adapter attachments, which allows you to use them from birth. Always check the manufacturer’s guidelines. Without a car seat adapter, most brands recommend waiting until 6-8 weeks old when babies have better head and neck control. ### 6. Can I use an all-terrain stroller on any hiking trail? While all-terrain strollers can handle many types of trails, be mindful of the difficulty level. They work best on wide, relatively flat trails with packed surfaces. Trails with steep inclines, narrow paths, technical terrain, or lots of steps may be challenging or impossible with a stroller. You may need to carry the stroller over sections or switch to a baby carrier. Always check trail conditions and width before you go. For more tips, see this guide on [gear for hiking with kids](https://momgoescamping.com/gear-hiking-with-kids/). ### 7. Are there any specific brands that are recommended for hiking? Several brands are known for making high-quality all-terrain strollers, including BOB Gear, Thule, and Veer. Each of these offers durable, well-designed models suited for outdoor adventures. BOB is particularly known for their suspension systems and durability, while Thule offers more compact folding and refined features. ### 8. How do I maintain an all-terrain stroller? Regular maintenance includes: – Checking tire pressure before long trips – Cleaning mud and debris off wheels and frame after use – Lubricating moving parts occasionally – Inspecting the brake system regularly – Replacing tubes if you get frequent flats – Wiping down fabric to prevent mold (especially after muddy or snowy adventures) ### 9. What’s the difference between a jogging stroller and a hiking stroller? The terms are often used interchangeably, but jogging strollers typically emphasize features like hand brakes and lockable front wheels for safe running at speed. Hiking strollers emphasize suspension and rugged construction for navigating uneven terrain. Many modern models (like the ones reviewed here) are designed to do both well. ### 10. What about winter hiking with a stroller? All-terrain strollers can handle snow and ice, but you’ll need to take extra precautions. Dress your baby in appropriate layers, be aware that metal parts can get very cold, and consider the terrain carefully. For detailed guidance, check out this post on [hiking with a baby or toddler in cold weather](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-baby-toddler-cold/). --- ## Also read: - [BOB Revolution Flex 3.0 Review](https://momgoescamping.com/bob-revolution-flex-3-0-review/) - [BOB Revolution Flex vs BOB Alterrain Comparison](https://momgoescamping.com/bob-revolution-flex-3-0-vs-bob-alterrain-strollers/) - [Stroller vs Hiking Carrier: Which is Better?](https://momgoescamping.com/stroller-vs-hiking-carrier/) - [Ultimate Guide to Hiking with a Baby](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-with-baby/) - [What Gear Do You Need for Hiking with a Baby?](https://momgoescamping.com/gear-hiking-baby/) - [14 Expert Tips for Using Child Hiking Carriers](https://momgoescamping.com/tips-child-hiking-carriers/) - [Soft Carrier vs. Framed Backpack Carrier](https://momgoescamping.com/soft-vs-frame-backpack-hiking-carrier/) - [How to Go Camping with a Baby](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-with-baby/) - [How to Go Tent Camping with Toddlers](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-with-toddler/) - [Benefits of Getting Kids Outdoors](https://momgoescamping.com/reasons-to-take-kids-camping/) - [Best Camping Wagons for Families](https://momgoescamping.com/best-camping-wagons/) --- ### Image credits: “[Elevator](https://www.flickr.com/photos/tim_ellis/379680078/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [tim ellis](https://www.flickr.com/people/tim_ellis/), “[Road Warrior 4: Jogging Stroller](https://www.flickr.com/photos/70065313@N00/2478882377/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [ChiefG\_G](https://www.flickr.com/people/70065313@N00/), “[IMG\_5719](https://www.flickr.com/photos/elmarquez/4850518470/)” ([CC BY-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/2.0/)) by [ebmarquez](https://www.flickr.com/people/elmarquez/), “[Hike at Waldron Fen](https://www.flickr.com/photos/odalaigh/4582359324/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Odalaigh](https://www.flickr.com/people/odalaigh/) “[stroller ad?](https://www.flickr.com/photos/reneeanddolan/283806043/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [dolanh](https://www.flickr.com/people/reneeanddolan/), “[Day 035 – Photo365 – Cool](https://www.flickr.com/photos/threar/16259155939/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [UnknownNet Photography](https://www.flickr.com/people/threar/), “[Carry the buggy](https://www.flickr.com/photos/roryob/5395736060/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Rory OBrien](https://www.flickr.com/people/roryob/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** babies, strollers --- ### [Best 3 Room Tents (Which Are Actually Practical to Use)](https://momgoescamping.com/best-three-room-tents/) **Published:** April 26, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I personally am not a fan of three-room tents. They take up a lot of space so it can be hard to find somewhere to pitch them. They are also heavy and huge tents rarely hold up well against windy weather or storms. It’s often easier to use two tents with a separate screened tent for hanging out. You can even create a “three room” large tent by pitching a tarp between two separate tents. Read more about different types of tents below: - [Read about Kitchen Tents here.](https://momgoescamping.com/best-kitchen-tents-camping/) - [Read about the Best Large Family Tents Here.](https://momgoescamping.com/best-large-family-tents/) - [How Big of a Family Tent Do You Need?](https://momgoescamping.com/how-big-family-tent/) However, if you are camping with a large group and staying in one spot for a long time (or don’t mind setting up a massive tent for a weekend trip!), or use queen-sized air mattresses, a three-room tent will definitely give you more space and privacy. It’s also cheaper to buy one three-room tent than multiple tents, especially since some campgrounds only allow one tent per site. Below are the best three room tents. All of them actually have three *rooms* (I’m not counting a vestibule as a separate room!). I’ve excluded a lot of cheap 3-room tents which leak or break easily. ## Quick Picks - **Best Overall: [Core 12P Instant Tent](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DRQH7RQ/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07DRQH7RQ&linkId=9e229c9d23f2be90994f3f6b30c937d7)** - **Runner Up: [Coleman Rocky Mountain 5 Plus](https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Rocky-Mountain-Tunnel-Tent/dp/B01M2902PY?&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=27e9576a9aafea601a66358973ac5026&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl)** - **Most Spacious: [Bushnell 12P Instant Tent](https://amzn.to/48XQwih)** - **Budget Pick: [Ozark Trail 11P Cabin Tent](https://amzn.to/4u7tON5)** ## Comparison Table Click the arrows to sort the table by type, size, doors, etc. | Tent | Type | Sleeps | Footprint | Weight | Doors | Headroom | |---|---|---|---|---|---|---| | [Core 12 Instant](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DRQH7RQ/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07DRQH7RQ&linkId=9e229c9d23f2be90994f3f6b30c937d7) | Cabin | 12 | 18×10′ | 52lbs | 2 | 80 | | [Coleman Rocky Mountain 5 Plus](https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Rocky-Mountain-Tunnel-Tent/dp/B01M2902PY?&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=27e9576a9aafea601a66358973ac5026&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) | Tunnel | 5 | 14.9×10′ | 37lbs | 1 | 72 | | [Coleman Red Canyon 8P](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00J955G10?th=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=918282fa21755c89408f478165e1ad0d&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) | Mod. Dome | 8 | 17×10′ | 23lbs | 1 | 72 | | [Bushnell Sport 12P](https://amzn.to/48XQwih) | Cabin | 12 | 20×10′ | 58lbs | 1 | 78 | | [Campros 12](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08ZS9Q2K6/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08ZS9Q2K6&linkId=f4086cd4ab3727a014224a4ee99d3eb2) | Tunnel | 12 | 20×9′ | 24.3lbs | 2 | 72 | | [Ozark Trail 11P Instant Tent](https://amzn.to/4u7tON5) | Cabin | 11 | 14×9″/14×14′ | 39lbs | 1 | 76 | ## Best Three Room Tents ### 1. Core Instant Cabin 12P **Choose because:** A very large three-room tent that can handle bad weather and is easy to pitch [![core 12 instant family cabin tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/core-12-instant-tent.jpg)](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/core-12-instant-tent.jpg) #### Features - **Type:** Cabin - **Doors:** 1 - **Footprint size:** 18×10 feet - **Max height:** 80 inches - **Weight:** 52lbs - **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DRQH7RQ/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07DRQH7RQ&linkId=9e229c9d23f2be90994f3f6b30c937d7)** #### Review Even though this tent is very affordable, it is surprisingly well-made and has a great design. For an instant tent, it is pretty sturdy and handles bad weather very well. It also has built-in ventilation so you don’t end up with condensation problems in cold weather. I love the design of this tent. The entrance doors are in the middle. You enter to a large room which can be used for hanging out or storage. There are room dividers on each side, giving you two separate sleeping spaces. The room dividers zip so are easy to open/close. You don’t have to unhook them to get in as is the case with some cheap family tents. A queen size air bed fits in each section of the tent, but with little room around the sides. The only real downside of this tent is that it is very heavy. There is also a lot of fabric, so packing it up can be a challenge. It does withstand bad weather well but you may need to reseal the seams eventually. **Pros** - Room dividers have zippers - Great ventilation - Handles bad weather well - Affordable - Instant setup **Cons** - Very heavy - Annoying to pack up **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DRQH7RQ/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07DRQH7RQ&linkId=9e229c9d23f2be90994f3f6b30c937d7)** --- ### 2. Coleman Rocky Mountain 5 Plus **Choose because:** It has a big front room and private bedrooms ![coleman rocky mountain 5 plus large 3 room tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/coleman-rocky-mountain-5-plus-large-3-room-tent.jpg) #### Features - **Type:** Tunnel - **Doors:** 1 - **Footprint size:** 14.9×10′ - **Max height:** 77 inches - **Weight:** 37lbs - **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Rocky-Mountain-Tunnel-Tent/dp/B01M2902PY?&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=27e9576a9aafea601a66358973ac5026&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl)** #### Review Compared to other 3-room tents, the Coleman Rocky Mountain 5 Plus is pretty small. This makes it easier to pitch and it takes up less space than other multi-room tents. However, don’t count on using this with air mattresses. The room divider is removable, so you *could* fit a queen in the bedroom area, but you are better off using sleeping pads or cots. The tent is designed so the front room is for gear storage or hanging out. There are storage pockets along one wall. You can fit a little table in there and there’s enough headroom for standing up. There are massive clear windows in the front room for light, but annoyingly they aren’t mesh so the ventilation is pretty poor. The tent has a very high hydrostatic head (4500mm) so withstands bad storms and rains. Like all tunnel tents, you’ve got to stake this one out very carefully, but the shape means wind goes off of it so it is suitable to use in bad storms. One of the best things about the Coleman Rocky Mountain 5 Plus is the black-out feature in the rooms. Not only will you be able to sleep in longer, but the fabric keeps the tent cooler. **Pros** - Blackout fabric in bedrooms - Handles bad weather well - Large windows in front room - Rooms have zipper doors - Storage pockets - Lots of light in front room **Cons** - Not for air mattresses - Windows are plastic, not mesh - Poor ventilation - Pricy option **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Rocky-Mountain-Tunnel-Tent/dp/B01M2902PY?&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=27e9576a9aafea601a66358973ac5026&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl)** --- ### 3. Coleman Red Canyon 8P Tent **Choose because:** It has a small footprint, is lightweight and is affordable ![coleman red canyon 8p 3 room tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/coleman-red-canyon-8p-3-room-tent.jpg) #### Features - **Type:** Mod. dome - **Doors:** 1 - **Footprint size:** 10×17 feet - **Max height:** 84 inches - **Weight:** 23lbs - **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00J955G10?th=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=918282fa21755c89408f478165e1ad0d&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl)** #### Review Here’s another 3-room Coleman tent. It is very cheap and, as you’d expect, is lacking a lot of features. Notably, the room dividers don’t have zippers. You will annoyingly have to unhook them to get out. The tent does withstand bad weather well though and it is incredibly easy to set up. There is an air vent at the bottom of the tent, but there is only one window so ventilation isn’t great. The tent has one door in the middle. Two removable dividers create two more rooms off to the sides. The tent will definitely not sleep 8 people “comfortably.” If anyone were to sleep in the middle, the people in the side rooms would have to crawl over them to get in/out. You are better off using the middle room for storage. It’s a bit small for hanging out. You can fit three queen mattresses in the tent, but there will be no room for anything else. If you remove the room dividers, you can get a queen mattress in each side room. But the mattress may touch the tent walls and create condensation problems. You are better off using twin mattresses or pads instead. **Pros** - Very affordable - Quick and easy setup - Withstands bad weather well - Lightweight **Cons** - Room dividers don’t have zippers - Front door is small - Need to seal the seams - Few windows; poor ventilation **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00J955G10?th=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=918282fa21755c89408f478165e1ad0d&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl)** --- #### Taking the kids camping for the first time? My “Your Family’s First Camping Trip” bundle has the complete guide, printable packing checklist, and three done-for-you itineraries, everything from booking the site to the drive home. **[Get the bundle →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/1stcampingtrip)** ### 4. Bushnell 12P Cabin Tent **Choose because:** It’s insanely spacious and you can use an AC unit inside [![bushnell 3 room cabin tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/busnell-3-room-camping-tent.jpg)](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/busnell-3-room-camping-tent.jpg) #### Features - **Type:** Cabin - **Doors:** 1 - **Footprint size:** 20×10 feet - **Max height:** 80 inches - **Weight:** 58lbs - **[Buy Here](https://amzn.to/48XQwih)** #### Review Bushnell isn’t a well-known camping brand, but they do make this nice 3-room cabin tent. It has a practical layout with the door in the middle and two rooms off to the side. While you can technically fit three queen-sized mattresses in the tent, the middle room is best left as a hangout space. Otherwise it will be hard to access the side rooms. A standout feature of this tent is that it has large vents for air conditioning. If you want to use an AC unit in a tent, this is one of your only practical options. The tent also has lots of windows all around the side rooms, so ventilation is good. Another nice feature of the tent is that it comes with the poles pre-attached to the tent, so setup is very quick and simple. Like with other large tents though, the tent is insanely heavy. You’ll need help setting it up and want a trolly for carrying it. Even though the Bushnell tent is far from cheap, it still isn’t made with the best materials. It holds up in the rain but, if you don’t reapply waterproof coating regularly, it will start to leak. **Pros** - AC vents - Easy setup - Good ventilation - Nice layout **Cons** - Room dividers don’t have zippers - Leaks in rain - Materials not the best quality - Heavy - Pricier option **[Buy Here](https://amzn.to/48XQwih)** --- ### 5. Ozark Trail 11P Instant Cabin Tent **Choose because:** It’s affordable, durable and has a flexible layout [![ozark trail 3 room tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/ozark-trail-3-room-tent.jpg)](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/ozark-trail-3-room-tent.jpg) #### Features - **Type:** Cabin - **Doors:** 2 - **Footprint size:** 14×9′ (main area); 14×14′ (with back room) - **Max height:** 76 inches - **Weight:** 39lbs - **[Buy Here](https://amzn.to/4u7tON5)** #### Review You are either going to love or hate the layout of the Ozark Trail 11P cabin tent. It has one large rectangular cabin area that is 14 feet x 9 feet. You can hang a divider in the room to create two spaces. There is a smaller sleeping area in the back that fits a queen-sized mattress (but without room for anything else). This back room is completely optional: you can just leave the fabric hanging down if you only need a two-room tent. The size and layout means you can actually have people sleeping in all three rooms. However, only two of the rooms will have true privacy because the people in the small back room have to exit through one room. The tent is very easy to set up and one person could do it alone, though it would be difficult if you are short. Another nice thing is that the tent isn’t too heavy. However, the reason it’s so lightweight is because the tent materials are thin. Make sure you clear the ground before pitching or you will end up with holes in the floor. Another downside is that there aren’t many windows, so ventilation is poor. The back room gets particularly stuffy with the divider closed. While the tent itself holds up well enough in rain and doesn’t leak, be warned that rain will puddle on the awning. If it is going to rain, you will need to repitch the awning so it angles downwards. **Pros** - Affordable - Not too heavy - Easy setup - Has awning - Can leave the back room down **Cons** - Thin floor material - Poor ventilation - Back room is cramped **[Buy Here](https://amzn.to/4u7tON5)** --- ### 6. Campros 12P Tunnel Tent **Best for:** Budget three-room tent, though the two-room layout is more functional [![CAMPROS 12 PERSON TENT](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/CAMPROS-12-PERSON-TENT.jpg)](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/CAMPROS-12-PERSON-TENT.jpg) #### Features - **Type:** Tunnel - **Doors:** 2 - **Footprint size:** 20×9 - **Max height:** 72 inches - **Weight:** 24.3lbs - **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08ZS9Q2K6/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08ZS9Q2K6&linkId=f4086cd4ab3727a014224a4ee99d3eb2)** #### Review The Campros 12P tunnel tent comes with two room dividers. You can hang a room divider in the middle of the tent to create two rooms. Or you can hang the dividers off to the side to create three rooms. I think the two-room setup is much better. It allows you to put queen or even king-sized mattresses off to the sides and have personal space left over. With this setup, each room has its own door. With the three-room setup, the side rooms end up being very cramped. It will be fine if you are sleeping on pads, but not if you are on mattresses. It also is slightly annoying to unhook the dividers to the rooms. For such a cheap tent, it is surprisingly well-made and seems to hold up to bad weather well. The curved shape definitely makes it better in windy weather than a cabin tent. There’s adequate ventilation to prevent condensation on cold nights. I personally don’t like tunnel tents very much though. They have to be completely staked out to stay upright, which is difficult on rocky ground. [![campros 12p 3 room tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/campros-12p-3-room-tent.jpg)](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/campros-12p-3-room-tent.jpg)If you hang the dividers off to the sides to create three rooms, the sleeping area ends up very cramped! You also have to unhook the divider to enter.[![CAMPROS 12 PERSON TUNNEL TENT 3 ROOMS](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/CAMPROS-12-PERSON-TENT-3-ROOMS.jpg)](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/CAMPROS-12-PERSON-TENT-3-ROOMS.jpg)If you hang the divider in the middle, you get two spacious rooms which each have a door. **Pros** - Affordable - Lightweight - Good ventilation **Cons** - Three-room layout creates cramped bedrooms without doors - Requires at least 2 people to set up - Needs to be staked down very well - No porch, awning or gear garage - Low headroom **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08ZS9Q2K6/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08ZS9Q2K6&linkId=f4086cd4ab3727a014224a4ee99d3eb2)** --- ## Three Room Tent FAQ ### How many people can actually sleep in a three-room tent? Fewer than the name suggests. A “12-person” tent realistically sleeps 6–8 adults comfortably once you account for gear and air mattresses. The advertised number assumes bodies packed side by side with no belongings. For real comfort, plan on about half the rated capacity. ### Are three-room tents waterproof? Most handle light to moderate rain fine, but the budget models in this guide will eventually leak at the seams without maintenance. Reapply a waterproof coating and seam sealer once a season, and angle any awning downward so water runs off instead of pooling. Cabin-style tents are the most prone to leaking in heavy storms. ### Do all three rooms work as bedrooms? Usually not. In most three-room tents, the middle or front room is really a hangout/gear space, anyone sleeping there has no privacy and may get climbed over. Realistically you get two usable bedrooms plus a common area, so shop based on two private rooms, not three. ### Are three-room tents good in wind? It depends on the type. Cabin tents have tall, flat walls that catch wind and perform poorly in storms. Tunnel tents shed wind better but must be staked out thoroughly. If you camp somewhere exposed, a tunnel design like the [Coleman Rocky Mountain](https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Rocky-Mountain-Tunnel-Tent/dp/B01M2902PY?&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=27e9576a9aafea601a66358973ac5026&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) handles weather better than a big cabin tent. ### Is one big tent better than two separate tents? For large groups staying put, one three-room tent is cheaper and works where campgrounds limit you to one tent per site. For mobility and bad weather, two smaller tents are easier to pitch and more wind-stable. ## Advice for Buying a Three Room Tent ### 1. There Probably Are Only Two Bedrooms Even if the tent has three rooms, it doesn’t mean all of them are meant for sleeping. The middle or front room is usually meant to be a hangout room or gear storage room. You can have people sleep in that room, but they won’t have any privacy. Depending on how big the room is, people in the other rooms may have to crawl over them to get in/out. ### 2. Consider the Layout Pay careful attention to the layout of the tent. Some might not be functional for your family. Take the Ozark Trail 11P tent shown below. Its layout might be perfect if you want to put a queen-size mattress on one side, sleeping pads in the back room, and reserve the other large room for hanging out. But, if you want to have people sleep in each room, the people in the back will have their exit blocked. I suggest drawing the floor plan of the tent and seeing how your mattresses will fit inside it. If you are using queen-sized air mattresses, don’t skip this step! [![bad layout example for three room tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/bad-layout.jpg)](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/bad-layout.jpg) ### 3. Choose a Tent with Multiple Doors Multiple doors drastically improves the functionality of a multi-room tent. It allows people to enter “their” bedroom without bothering people in the other rooms. Doors are one of the most expensive parts of a tent though, so tents with multiple doors usually will cost more. ### 4. How Do You Hang the Room Dividers? Most three-room tents have room dividers to create the separate rooms. Most of the time, you hang the dividers with little hooks. The hooks mean that there is usually a gap in the wall, so you don’t get complete privacy. It can also be annoying to unhook the dividers each time you want to enter/exit the room. Some three-room tents use zippers for dividers. These are much more functional and provide better privacy. The downside of zippers are they are loud (and you might wake your fellow campers) and add to the cost of the tent. ### 5. Understand the Types of Tents A lot of the bad reviews people leave for these 3-room tents aren’t really issues with the tent itself. Rather, they are issues with the *type* of tent. For example, all tunnel tents are a pain to put up because they have to be staked down in a million places. Cabin tents generally perform very badly in windy weather. If you aren’t sure which type of tent is best for you, read this post about the **[Types of Camping Tents (with Pictures)](https://momgoescamping.com/types-camping-tents-with-photos/)**. ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** tents --- ### [Best Kids Headlamps for Camping and Backpacking, As Chosen by an Outdoorsy Mom](https://momgoescamping.com/best-kids-headlamps/) **Published:** March 24, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I highly recommend that you get your kids, even little kids, their own headlamps for camping. A headlamp means they will be able to do things like play flashlight tag and walk around camp at night without tripping over everything. Oh, and they’ll stop stealing *your* headlamp if they have their own cool kids headlamp. Read more about camping with kids below: - [Camping Activities to Entertain Kids](https://momgoescamping.com/activities-entertain-kids-camping/) - [How Far Can Kids Hike?](https://momgoescamping.com/how-far-can-kids-hike/) - [Backpacking with Kids: A Mom’s Guide](https://momgoescamping.com/guide-backpacking-kids/) I’ve got two kids, currently 3 and 11 years old, and they’ve both used a variety of headlamps over the years. I also talked to a lot of other outdoorsy parents about what their kids favorite headlamps were. Based on our experience, I’ve compiled a list of the best kids headlamps for camping and backpacking. ## Quick Picks: **Best Headlamp for Kids 8+: [Foxelli 180 Lumen USB Rechargeable](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06W2M167T/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B06W2M167T&linkId=3f7a5808f947ec2d9a390c31a12dbc79)** It’s very affordable yet still durable and feature rich. **Best Headlamp for Really Little Kids: [Petzl Tikkid](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B076ZWXZQQ/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B076ZWXZQQ&linkId=0c628c77dcaf6cbc23055abc503fae90)** The headlamp only gets to 20 lumens and is angled downwards so won’t harm eyes. It is also cool-looking and has a decent battery life. **Best for Serious Adventuring: [Black Diamond Storm 400](https://amzn.to/4dMe7nD)** It’s bright, insanely tough, has lots of colors and lots of great features. You’ll want one for yourself too! ### Comparison | Headlamp | Lumens | Settings | Batteries | Tilt | |---|---|---|---|---| | [Foxelli 180](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06W2M167T/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B06W2M167T&linkId=3f7a5808f947ec2d9a390c31a12dbc79) | 50, 180 | Low, high, red, red flashing, SOS | 1200mAh rechargeable | Yes | | [Petzl Tikkid](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B076ZWXZQQ/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B076ZWXZQQ&linkId=0c628c77dcaf6cbc23055abc503fae90) | 4, 20 | Low, high, strobe | 3xAAA | No | | [Princeton Tec Bot](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CHC8YJC/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B01CHC8YJC&linkId=e384501dafd1f816194718f11242c398) | 5, 30 | Low, high, strobe | 2xAA | Yes | | [Princeton Tec Byte 100](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06Y2PRN4B/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B06Y2PRN4B&linkId=c740c5d2734addb5214285bc530a8ca9) | 52, 100 | Low, high, red | 2xAAA | Yes | | [Black Diamond Spot Lite 200](https://amzn.to/49Vm34E) | 6-200 | Dimmable white, red, strobe, lock | 2xAAA | Yes | | [BioLite No Bounce 200](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07SZ3P36M/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07SZ3P36M&linkId=380eb4df8b282d15a77071cc27f1ab46) | 5-200 | Dimmable white and red, strobe | 700mAh rechargeable | Yes | | [Black Diamond Storm 400](https://amzn.to/4dMe7nD) | 8-400 | Dimmable white, red, green, blue, strobe, lock | 4xAAA | Yes | ## Can Kids Just Use Adult Headlamps? For the most part, my kids use the same headlamps that I use, especially because adult headlamps usually have more features than the cheap kids headlamps. However, not all adult headlamps are good for kids. The main issue is that headlamps can be very bright. My toddler always wanted to look at the light, which could damage her eyes. My older daughter has a tendency to point the headlamp in people’s eyes when talking to them, so could damage other people’s eyes that way. A lot of headlamps are also too bulky for kids to wear. And some are too difficult for little kids to use, such as when they have complex dimming features. So, *yes,* your kids can use an adult headlamp. Just make sure you choose one with features (see below) which make it suitable for children. ![kids headlamp](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/kids-headlamp.jpg)My daughter (at age 9) wearing one of my Petzl headlamps. The strap is a bit wide on her but it otherwise is great. ## Features to Look for in Kids Headlamps Most headlamps specifically marketed to kids are really cheap and gimmicky. Instead of simply looking for cute designs when choosing a kids headlamp, make sure you get the features which *really* matter. These include: - **Small size and thin strap:** Some headlamps are really bulky on little kids. And the strap may be too wide to be comfortable. - **Adjustable tilt:** Trust me, your kid will end up blinding you each time they look up to talk to you if you can’t tilt the headlamp light downwards! - **Red light setting:** This should be on ALL headlamps (not just ones for kids). Otherwise you’ll wake everyone in the tent when you have to get up at night. - **Blue and green lights:** These aren’t mandatory but kids really like playing with the green and blue light settings that some headlamps have. - **Good battery life:** Kids tend to use headlamps more than adults (in part because they forget to turn them off). So good battery life is really important. - **Not too bright:** Avoid getting a headlamp which is over 200 lumens for young kids. The high brightness might damage their eyes when they inevitably look into the light. - **Durable:** You can’t expect your kids to take good care of a headlamp. So either get them a cheap one (and expect it to break quickly) or invest in a good headlamp capable of taking a beating. ## Best Kids Headlamps Reviewed ### [Foxelli 180 Lumen USB Rechargeable](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06W2M167T/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B06W2M167T&linkId=3f7a5808f947ec2d9a390c31a12dbc79) **Best for:** Budget headlamp for kids 8+ ![foxelli headlamp for kids](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/foxelli-headlamp-for-kids.jpg) #### Features - **Batteries:** 1200mAh rechargeable - **Lumens:** 180 (high), 50 (low) - **Settings:** Low, high, red, red flashing, SOS red - **Colors:** White, red - **Battery life:** 40 hours (low), 5 hours (high) - **Tilt:** Yes **Review:** Foxelli makes a few cheap headlamps that are good for kids, including this one with a rechargeable battery. As you’d expect from the price, it is a simple headlamp, but it still is pretty durable and performs well. Just push the large button to turn it on. There is no memory function so you have to cycle through all the modes each time you turn it on again. To get the red light mode, hold the button for 1.5 seconds. Since kids probably don’t need a lot of lighting settings, this is a good first headlamp. Just make sure to bring a power bank as the battery life isn’t that great and the rechargeable battery will eventually lose their charge as they age. **[Buy It Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06W2M167T/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B06W2M167T&linkId=3f7a5808f947ec2d9a390c31a12dbc79)** **Pros** - Lightweight - Very affordable price - Simple to use - Different color options **Cons** - Battery life not best - Not many white light settings --- ### [Petzl Tikkid](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B076ZWXZQQ/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B076ZWXZQQ&linkId=0c628c77dcaf6cbc23055abc503fae90) **Best for:** Toddlers and little kids ![petzl kids headlamp Tikkid](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/petzl-kids-headlamp.jpg) #### Features - **Batteries:** 3xAAA or CORE rechargeable - **Lumens:** 4 (low), 20 (high) - **Settings:** Low, high, strobe - **Colors:** White - **Battery life:** 110 hours (low), 61 hours (high) - **Tilt:** No **Review:** I have a few Petzl headlamps and really like them for their durability. Their Tikkid headlamp is also made to handle some serious abuse. Unfortunately, it doesn’t have as many features as other Petzl headlamps. There is no red light feature. While there’s no tilt, they did angle the light downward so your kids are less likely to blind you. The Tikkid only gets up to 20 lumen on high, which is pretty dim. This will keep your child’s eyes safe but isn’t really bright enough for a child to walk around camp at night. For this reason, this is only a good headlamp for really little kids who won’t be walking alone anyway. The battery life is great, there is automatic shutoff, and the large button is intuitive to use. **[Buy It Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B076ZWXZQQ/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B076ZWXZQQ&linkId=0c628c77dcaf6cbc23055abc503fae90)** **Pros** - Automatic shutoff after 1 hour - Light angled downward - Low lumens keeps eyes safe - Battery case secured closed - Very durable - Easy to use - Good battery life **Cons** - No tilt - Only white light - Need screwdriver to open battery case --- **Taking the kids camping for the first time?** My “Your Family’s First Camping Trip” bundle has the complete guide, printable packing checklist, and three done-for-you itineraries, everything from booking the site to the drive home. **[Get the bundle →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/1stcampingtrip)** ### [Princeton Tec Bot 30 Lumen Kids Headlamp](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CHC8YJC/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B01CHC8YJC&linkId=e384501dafd1f816194718f11242c398) **Best for:** Really little kids (second pick) ![princeton tec bot headlamp for kids](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/princeton-tec-bot-headlamp-for-kids.jpg) #### Features - **Batteries:** 2xAAA - **Lumens:** 30 (high), 5 (low) - **Settings:** Low, high, flash - **Colors:** White - **Battery life:** 11 hours (low), 6 hours (high) - **Tilt:** Yes **Review:** Here’s another headlamp designed specifically for little kids. It only gets up to 30 lumens so you don’t have to worry about your kids damaging their (or your) eyes. There is no red light mode but at least this kids headlamp actually tilts. The headlamp only requires two AAA batteries so is very lightweight, but that does mean the battery life is pretty short. The biggest annoyance with this kids headlamp is that you have to open the battery case with a screwdriver. Sure, this helps protect the case from accidentally opening but it’s a pain in the butt to change the batteries. Lots of people complained that they stripped the screw trying to open it. That’s the reason it didn’t get the #1 pick for best headlamp for little kids. **[Buy It Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CHC8YJC/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B01CHC8YJC&linkId=e384501dafd1f816194718f11242c398)** **Pros** - Low lumens keeps eyes safe - Battery case secured closed - Tilts - Easy to use - Only two AAA batteries **Cons** - Only white light - Need screwdriver to open battery case - Battery life not great --- ### [Princeton Tec Byte 100 Lumen Headlamp](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06Y2PRN4B/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B06Y2PRN4B&linkId=c740c5d2734addb5214285bc530a8ca9) **Best for:** Kids who wake up a lot at night ![Princeton Tec Byte 100 lumen headlamp for kids](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Princeton-Tec-Byte-100-Lumen-Headlamp.jpg) #### Features - **Batteries:** 2xAAA - **Lumens:** 52 (low), 100 (high), 4 (red) - **Settings:** Low, high, red - **Colors:** White, red - **Battery life:** 8 hours (low), 5 hours (high) - **Tilt:** Yes **Review:** The reason that this headlamp is great for kids who wake up a lot at night is because the default mode is the red light. Most other headlamps require you to hold down the switch to turn on the red light (which they inevitably forget and then blind themselves with the brightness). The Byte headlamp also has other nice features for kids, like being simple to use and fairly durable. The headlamp actually tilts so you can angle it downwards. While the battery life isn’t great, it is because the headlamp only requires two AA batteries, thus also making it lightweight. **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06Y2PRN4B/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B06Y2PRN4B&linkId=c740c5d2734addb5214285bc530a8ca9)** **Pros** - Red mode is default - Easy to use - Fairly durable - Very lightweight and comfortable - Only 2 batteries **Cons** - Short battery life - No very low white light mode --- ### [Black Diamond Spot Lite 200](https://amzn.to/49Vm34E) **Best For:** A headlamp your kids can use for years to come ![black diamond spot lite 200 for kids](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/black-diamond-spot-160-lite-Copy.jpg) #### Features - **Batteries:** 2xAAA - **Lumens:** 6-200 - **Settings:** Dimmable white, red, strobe, lock - **Colors:** White, red - **Battery life:** 60 hours (low), 1.5 hours (high) - **Tilt:** Yes **Review:** The Spot Lite is a Black Diamond’s lightweight headlamp. Because it only uses two AAA batteries and has a thin strap, it is a great headlamp for kids. There is a bit of a learning curve to the headlamp but older kids will quickly figure it out. If they don’t, then the memory feature is there to help them get to the same setting they had when they turned the headlamp off. Considering that there are only two batteries, the battery life on the headlamp is great. It has enough features and is durable so your kids can use this headlamp for years to come. **[Buy Here on Amazon](https://amzn.to/49Vm34E)** **Pros** - Dimmable - Lock mode and memory features - Ultralight - Good battery life - Waterproof and very durable **Cons** - Slight learning curve --- ### [BioLite No Bounce HeadLamp 200](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07SZ3P36M/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07SZ3P36M&linkId=380eb4df8b282d15a77071cc27f1ab46) **Best For:** Lightweight rechargeable kids headlamp ![Biolite 200 headlamp for kids](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/biolite-200-Copy.jpg) #### Features - **Batteries:** 700mAh rechargeable - **Lumens:** 5-200 - **Settings:** Dimmable white, dimmable red, white strobe, red strobe - **Colors:** White, red - **Battery life:** 40 hours (low), 3 hours (high) - **Tilt:** Yes **Review:** The BioLite 200 regularly gets mentioned as one of the best camping and backpacking headlamps. It isn’t specifically made for kids but the strap is adjustable and the sleek design means it fits small heads well. Because the headlamp gets up to 200 lumens, it isn’t a good pick for very little kids. However, it’s great for older kids, especially if you want a feature-rich headlamp that they can use for years to come. The rechargeable battery is only 700mAh though, which accounts for the terrible battery life. Note that the headlamp does tilt within the casing, allowing the strap to remain flat against the head for the “no bounce” design. **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07SZ3P36M/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07SZ3P36M&linkId=380eb4df8b282d15a77071cc27f1ab46)** **Pros** - Dimmable white and red modes - Lightweight and very comfortable for adults and kids - Memory and lock mode features - Reflective strip on headband **Cons** - Poor battery life - Strap isn’t removable --- ### [Black Diamond Storm 400](https://amzn.to/4dMe7nD) **Best for:** Serious young adventurers ![Black Diamond Storm 400 headlamp for kids](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/black-diamond-storm-400-Copy.jpg) #### Features - **Batteries:** 4xAAA - **Lumens:** 8-400 - **Settings:** Dimmable, red, green, blue, strobe, and lock - **Colors:** White, red, blue, green - **Battery life:** 150 hours (low), 5 hours (high) - **Tilt:** Yes **Review:** The Storm 400 headlamp is one of Black Diamond’s newer headlamps. It isn’t made specifically for kids but they will love it because of the four color options. The headlamp is also bright enough for playing games in the dark (and tough enough to handle the inevitable drops which happen) or even nighttime hiking. As with other Black Diamond headlamps, there is a slight learning curve to figure out how to switch between the modes. My 10 year old still gets confused if she hasn’t used it for a while. But the memory feature means the headlamp will turn on with the same setting it last had, so you can just dim it to whatever brightness you need and leave it there. **[Buy Here on Amazon](https://amzn.to/4dMe7nD)** **Pros** - Dimmable - Gets very bright - Completely waterproof and insanely tough - Battery life monitor - Brightness memory **Cons** - Needs four batteries - High learning curve - Brightness could harm eyes - Slightly heavy - Pricier option --- ## Kids Headlamps Which Didn’t Make this List There are a lot of really bad kids headlamps out there. Take this super-cute owl headlamp you can buy on Amazon. It *looks* cool, but it lacks useful features and breaks really easily. Plus, it has a speaker. Your kids push a button and it makes owl sounds. Not only does this drain batteries faster, but it will drive you crazy! Unfortunately, even some of the best brands didn’t have their kids headlamps make the list. My daughter got the Black Diamond Wiz headlamp and it stopped working after a couple days (she didn’t even drop or bang it). The headlamp also lacks useful features. The only real cool thing about it is the multitude of color options and neat design, but those don’t make it worth getting. I also excluded Energizer headlamps because they were either too bright or didn’t have a red light. For the price, you are better off getting a Black Diamond headlamp anyway. And the Coleman kids headlamps didn’t make the list because it isn’t very durable. ## Kids Headlamp FAQ: ### What lumens is safe for kids? For toddlers and little kids, keep it under 20-30 lumens, bright enough for walking around camp but not enough to damage eyes when they inevitably look into the light. For older kids (8+), up to 200 lumens is fine as long as they understand not to shine it in people’s faces. ### Should I get a rechargeable or battery-powered headlamp for my kid? Both work, but battery-powered headlamps have one big advantage for kids: you can swap in fresh batteries on the trail. Rechargeable headlamps need a power bank or outlet, which you may not have camping. That said, rechargeable headlamps are cheaper to run long-term since kids tend to forget to turn them off. ### Can kids use adult headlamps? Yes, most of the headlamps on this list are adult headlamps that work great for kids. The key things to check: not over 200 lumens for young kids, has a red light mode, fits smaller heads, and isn’t too complicated to operate. The Black Diamond Spot Lite and BioLite 200 both tick all four boxes. **What headlamps do your kids use? Let us know in the comments below.** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** headlamp --- ### [Why Do Feet Swell When Hiking and How to Stop It](https://momgoescamping.com/feet-swelling-hiking/) **Published:** December 5, 2018 **Author:** Diane **Content:** One common problem that hikers have is foot swelling. This is bad enough if you are going on a short hike, but even worse if you are thru-hiking. Many thru-hikers find that their boots stop fitting them because of swelling! There’s no good solution to this once you are halfway through a thru-hike (unless you had the forethought to mail-drop some larger boots, you are stuck wearing thin socks and lacing your boots as loosely as possible!). So, it is good to know how to prevent and treat hiking feet swelling *before* you set off on your hike. ## My Experience with Hiking-Induced Foot Swelling I’m lucky that I haven’t had my feet or hands swell from hiking. However, my husband has some severe muscle atrophy from polio (got it from a bad batch of vaccines as a baby). That means he is *constantly* dealing with foot swelling. Even walking a few kilometers can mean severe swelling. He is a trooper and still goes with me on hikes, but takes a lot of preventative measures to deal with the swelling. So, a lot of the tips about swollen feet come from his 30+ years of experience dealing with this. ## What Causes Feet to Swell during/after Hiking? There are a lot of theories on the web about what exactly causes hiking-induced foot swelling. Note that HANDS can also swell from hiking. You won’t find much research into hiking or exercise-induced swelling, but here is what the experts and available scientific data have to say. ### Cause 1: Peripheral Edema Edema occurs when excess fluid gets trapped in your body’s tissues. Edema of the hands and feet isn’t just common during hiking. It occurs during all sorts of exercise. The reason why is this: **During exercise, blood flow to your heart, lungs, and muscles increase. This causes your blood vessels to widen (which can cause swelling). On top of this, your body is producing a lot of heat. In order to release this heat, your blood vessels widen. This causes some of your fluids to leak into surrounding tissues.** With the blood vessels so dilated, the body struggles to get the blood back to the heart. It is usually worst in the feet because your body has to fight gravity. However, hands can also swell because they are far from the heart. How do you know your post-hike swelling is due to peripheral edema? If you elevate your feet or hands, the swelling should go down. This sort of swelling can be severe. One study found that weight-bearing activity can increase foot volume by up to 8%. (Sources [1](https://www.mayoclinic.org/hand-swelling/expert-answers/faq-20058255), [2](https://www.avogel.co.uk/health/circulation/swollen-feet-due-to-warm-weather/), [3](https://www.verywellfit.com/swollen-fingers-and-toes-after-running-2911320), [4](https://www.emedicinehealth.com/edema/article_em.htm#how_can_edema_be_prevented), [5](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2953309/)) ### Cause 2: Hyponatremia An article in [Outside Online](https://www.outsideonline.com/1786636/why-do-my-hands-swell-long-hikes) about hand swelling during hiking chalked it all up to *hyponatremia*, a condition where your sodium levels get too low. Here’s the gist of it: **Your body doesn’t suck up water like a sponge. It requires nutrients like sodium in order to absorb water. So, if you drink a lot of water while hiking but don’t get enough sodium, the water will buildup and cause swelling in your body.** Considering that many of us munch on salty snacks like GORP while hiking, I doubt lack of sodium is the problem. If this were the case, you’d also have other symptoms of hyponatremia like: - Headaches - Moodiness - Muscle weakness or cramps - Confusion - Nausea or vomiting That’s not to say you shouldn’t worry about hyponatremia. If you have swelling which isn’t going away when you elevate your feet, hyponatremia might be the culprit. But this still isn’t a good reason to gobble down salty junk food. There are many types of electrolytes aside from sodium! More on this further down… ### Cause 3: Overworked Muscles This is the type of swelling that my husband normally gets. Since his leg/feet muscles are weak, it doesn’t take much for them to get overworked. The medical term for this is “Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness.” The theory behind DOMS is that your muscles get micro-injuries during exercise. After the exercise, your body gets to work repairing the injuries. The body causes swelling around these areas as a way to protect them. If you are thru-hiking, your feet are taking a LOT of abuse, so DOMS might be one cause of the swelling. ([6](https://www.self.com/story/how-deal-post-workout-muscle-soreness-really-painful), [7](https://www.faant.com/library/got-delayed-onset-muscle-soreness.cfm)) ### Cause 4: Too-Tight Gear Your blood needs to constantly circulate throughout your body. Anything that puts pressure on your body can restrict blood flow, causing it to get trapped. *Too tight boots?* *Wearing spandex biker shorts?* *Backpack straps digging into your shoulders?* These could result in swelling in your feet or hands. ([8](http://graysoncobb.com/hands-swell-hiking/), [9](http://blog.gameready.com/blog/using-compression-therapy-for-exercise-induced-edema)) ## Solutions for Hiking-Induced Feet/Hand Swelling **(These are all solutions that you can use on the trail while backpacking or thru-hiking!)** ### 1. Prop your feet up If the swelling is occurring because of peripheral edema, then gravity should make the swelling go away. Put your feet up whenever you stop for a rest and at the end of the day. If the swelling is *really* bad, you can even slightly elevate your feet while sleeping. Use your pack or even bring a small log into the tent to serve as a footrest. ![resting feet](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/resting-feet.jpg)Propping our feet up after a long day of hiking ### 2. Make sure your socks and boots aren’t constricting you: You should NOT see impressions on your feet from your socks or boots. If you can, this means that they are too tight. This is tricky because, as your feet swell, the boots can become tighter. This tightness then makes your feet swell more. One solution is to try lacing your boots differently. The lacing method will change where pressure is on your feet. **Also Read: [15 Ways to Lace Your Hiking Boots](https://momgoescamping.com/lace-hiking-boots/)** ### 3. Mail-drop yourself new boots: If you are on a thru-hike and know that your feet will get bigger, then it might be worth it to mail drop yourself new, bigger boots. Of course, this is risky because you can’t predict with certainty how big your feet will grow on the hike. A member of a hiking forum [here](https://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php/110514-Shoes-Pre-buy-amp-mail-drop-Or-buy-along-the-way) recommends this approach: Identify an online source and mail them to yourself when you need them. Only pre-buy boots if you are certain that they are THE shoes you’ll want on your feet for a multi-month hike. ### 4. Ice your feet! Applying cold is one of the best ways to reduce feet swelling. You won’t have an ice pack with you on the trail, but you can stick your feet in icy-cold streams. As per recommendation by his physical therapist, my husband uses this method: *ice then heat*. So stick your feet in cold water, then wrap them in a towel/sleeping bag/etc. to warm them afterwards. Or you can apply a menthol gel after icing to reduce the swelling. ### 5. Use trekking poles I only recently became a trekking pole convert. Why? Because I learned that one of the [pros of trekking poles](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-poles-pros-cons/) is that they reduce impact on your feet and joints. One study found that typical hikers transfer TWO TONS per hour onto poles on flat terrain, 28 tons when ascending, and 34 tons when descending! That’s a lot of impact taken off your feet, which means they are less likely to suffer from injury and swelling. Plus, since trekking poles mean your arms will be moving more, you get better circulation there and hand swelling is less likely. ### 6. Stop eating junk foods For many thru-hikers and backpackers, calories-per-ounce is the most important consideration for trail food. This often means bringing junk food (Pringles, anyone?) But junk food is one of the worst things you can eat for inflammation. Your body needs a full range of NUTRIENTS in addition to calories. Foods high in antioxidants (such as unsweetened dried berries) are particularly good for reducing inflammation. #### Want gourmet meals on the trail, no stove required? My dehydrator recipes ebook has 50+ calorie-dense backpacking recipes, many of which work perfectly with cold-soaking. **[Get it here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck)** ### 7. Stay hydrated with electrolytes My hiking first aid kit ([see the checklist here](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-first-aid-kit-checklist/)) always contains electrolyte packets. Electrolytes are what your body needs to absorb water. Yes, salt is an electrolyte, but please don’t use this as an excuse to eat salty junk foods. The negatives probably outweigh any benefits you get from the salt. Other electrolytes include calcium, chloride, magnesium, phosphorus, and potassium. Instead, eat foods rich in electrolytes such as: - Bananas - Cherries - Raisins - Coconut - Dates - Spinach and other leafy greens - Packs of tuna or salmon ### 8. Bring medicated patches or cream Yes, this will mean carrying extra weight, but some medications can do wonders for inflammation and pain. My husband uses two types of cream: - Menthol and anti-inflammatory gel such as Naproxen – good for painful swelling - Heparin cream – good for non-painful feet swelling Additionally, a lot of thru-hikers recommend using camphor/menthol patches like [Salonpas](https://www.amazon.com/Salonpas-Pain-Relieving-Patches-Count/dp/B01AB4U6PI?tag=momcampnew-20). The menthol is great for boosting circulation and reduces pain, though it doesn’t directly reduce inflammation. It might work out to be lighter than carrying a gel. ![tiger balm red copy](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/tiger-balm-red-copy.jpg) Apparently Tiger Balm is great for swollen feet and joint/muscle pains (the [Red Extra Strength Tiger Balm](https://www.amazon.com/Tiger-Balm-Relieving-Ointment-Red-Strength/dp/B003D37GGM?tag=momcampnew-20) works best). You can apply it to your feet *before* you start hiking to keep them cool and prevent edema. It also has many other uses which make it worth taking on hikes, like treating bug bites, rashes, coughs, sore throat, and blisters. Plus, mosquitoes hate it! ### 9. Use compression For a lot of thru-hikers, the swelling only occurs after they take their boots off (making it hard to get them back on). Putting on compression socks or using an Ace bandage to wrap feet can prevent fluid from building up in the area. Note that there is controversy as to whether wearing compression socks *while* hiking actually does any good, it might cut off circulation and make swelling worse! However, there is good anecdotal evidence that putting on compression socks *after* a hike can reduce swelling. ### 10. Check your posture This one is for hiking-induced hand swelling. If you are hunched over while hiking, your backpack will put even more pressure on your shoulders and cut off circulation to your arms and hands. It will be difficult for fluids to return, causing inflammation. So make sure your backpack is on properly and you are standing up straight! ## Hiking Foot Swelling FAQ: #### Is foot swelling after hiking normal? Yes, mild foot swelling after a long hike is very common and usually harmless. It’s caused by peripheral edema: increased blood flow to working muscles causes blood vessels to dilate, and some fluid leaks into surrounding tissues. Because your feet are farthest from your heart and fighting gravity, they tend to accumulate the most fluid. If the swelling goes down within a few hours of elevating your feet, it’s normal exercise-induced swelling. If it persists, is painful, or affects only one foot, see a doctor, those are signs of something more serious. #### Should I buy hiking boots a size up to account for foot swelling? For day hikes, buying a half-size up is a common and reasonable precaution, feet swell during any long walk, and boots that fit perfectly in the store may feel tight after 8 miles. For thru-hiking, consider going a full size up, especially if you know you’re prone to swelling. Many experienced thru-hikers size up before major long-distance trails for exactly this reason. Make sure you test the larger size with your hiking socks before committing, too much extra room in the toe box causes blisters from the foot sliding forward on descents. **Do your feet swell when hiking? Let us know any tips/tricks you have for dealing with this problem!** *Additional resources for this article:* <https://www.prevention.com/fitness/g20513849/6-things-to-try-if-exercise-makes-your-hands-or-legs-swell/>, <https://www.hiking-for-her.com/swollen-feet-after-hiking.html>, <https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/85598/> https://blackwoodspress.com/blog/7768/thru-hiking-tips-part-2/ <http://graysoncobb.com/hands-swell-hiking/> <https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/42079/> *Title image credit: “[poor feet of mine..](https://www.flickr.com/photos/iwona_kellie/3672452673/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [iwona\_kellie](https://www.flickr.com/people/iwona_kellie/)* ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking **Tags:** blisters, feet --- ### [How to Carry Your Camera When Hiking: 7 Best Options](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-carry-camera-hiking/) **Published:** October 14, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** On a recent backpacking trip, my camera was swinging around so badly that I lost the lens cap. Not to mention how sore my neck and shoulder were after hiking 12km with the camera hanging off of them. Leaving the camera inside my pack is definitely not an option: if the camera isn’t accessible, I won’t take photos, meaning that I’m lugging around a hefty camera for no reason. So, I decided it was finally time to upgrade the way I carry my camera hiking. After a lot of research and consulting with other hikers, here are the best hiking camera clips, straps, holsters and slings, as well as some cheap DIY solutions. #### Planning your family’s first camping trip? Getting the right gear sorted out beforehand makes everything easier, not just the camera. My bundle covers packing, planning, and easy trail meals so you’re not figuring it all out at the trailhead. **[Get the bundle →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/1stcampingtrip)** ## 1. [Peak Design Capture Clip V3](https://amzn.to/4eV77XD) ![peak design capture clip for hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/peak-design-capture-clip-for-hiking.jpg) When it comes to hiking with a camera, most backpackers swear by the Peak Design Capture Clip. Unlike most other solutions, it was actually designed for serious hiking. Here’s how it works: You open up the clip, put it on your backpack strap, close the clip, and then tighten the screws to secure it in place. Put the Peak Design plate on your camera. Then you can slide your camera in and out of the clip. It takes less than 60 seconds to install, and it’s just as easy to switch to another backpack. The PD Capture Clip quick-release button can apparently handle over 200lbs of force. You can also rotate the release button 90° and it will lock the camera in so you won’t accidentally disengage your camera while hiking. While the PD Capture Clip will work with any camera, it isn’t ideal for really big or heavy cameras, especially if you are using a small daypack. It will cause your pack strap to twist and there will be some swinging. **Notes:** Some backpackers have reported that the screws on their Capture Clip suddenly came loose, causing their cameras to slide down the pack straps or even fall off completely! Make sure the screws are securely tightened! A few hikers recommended using [LockTite Threadlocker](https://amzn.to/4tHl7b6) on the screws. Cotton Carrier recently started making [a similar product](https://amzn.to/4wCTiDy). However, it doesn’t lock in place and is also a bit uncomfortable on your straps. For this reason, the Capture Clip is the better option. ### Pros: - Weighs just 5oz (142g), which is lighter than holsters and most other solutions - Compatible with almost all Acra Swiss style tripod - Adapters so you can use it with a GoPro or binoculars - Keeps camera close to body – good for serious hiking and climbing ### Cons: - Not great for really large or heavy cameras - Need to regularly check the screw tightness **[Get It Here](https://amzn.to/4dt81bp)** --- ## 2. [Spider X Belt and Backpack Holster Kit](https://amzn.to/4uPwqiu) ![Spider Holster Backpacking Clip for hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/spider-x-backpack-clip.jpg) The Spider Holster X backpack clip is a similar concept to the PD Capture Clip. It also clips to your backpack strap. The mounting plate is compatible with Acra Swiss tripods and the setup includes a GoPro adapter plate. The total setup weighs 10.8oz (307g). I’m not sure how much of that is the GoPro plate, so it will weigh less if you don’t bring that. The difference between the two systems is that the Spider Holster has a ball-and-socket attachment method. This makes it much faster to mount/dismount your camera. However, the ball-and-socket also means that the camera will swing around a bit. Some hikers actually prefer this because the camera will swing with your movements, thus pulling less on the backpack strap. But most hikers don’t want their camera rotating around as they climb. Because of this, **I’d only recommend the Spider Holster for people doing wildlife photography (or other photography which requires very quick access) *and* who also aren’t doing serious climbing.** ### Pros: - Very quick to get camera on/off - Comes with GoPro adapter plate - Quickly switch between belt and strap carry ### Cons: - Camera swivels in the mount a bit as you hike - Best for cameras under 3lbs **[Get It Here](https://amzn.to/4uPwqiu)** --- ## 3. [BlackRapid Backpack Camera Sling](https://amzn.to/4dB7ODi) ![blackrapid backpack strap for hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/blackrapid-backpack-strap-for-hiking.jpg) If you prefer to carry your camera down at your side while hiking, the BlackRapid backpack camera sling is a good option. It is basically a camera strap with carabiners so you can attach it to your backpack straps. Since the strap doesn’t go over your neck, there’s no rubbing or neck pain. There will still definitely be some camera swinging if you are doing serious hiking or climbing, but the setup allows you to access your camera quickly. The strap is also very secure so you don’t have to worry about dropping your camera. It’s also impossible to have any “user failure” like you might have with a clip system. ### Pros: - Quick camera access - Idiot proof – no chance of camera falling ### Cons: - Camera swings around – not for climbing - You’ll have to unscrew the mount if you use a tripod **[Get It Here](https://amzn.to/4dB7ODi)** --- ## 4. [Camera Chest and Shoulder Harnesses](https://amzn.to/4dCmpOP) ![cotton carrier chest harness for hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/cotton-carrier-chest-harness-for-hiking.jpg) I personally don’t like camera harnesses for hiking. The main issue is that they need to be worn over your body. If you need to adjust your layers while hiking, then you are pretty much screwed (wear the harness over your base layer and you won’t be able to put on a jacket; wear it over your jacket and you won’t be able to take it off easily!). In addition to this problem, a harness means you’ve got an extra set of straps to deal with. It gets uncomfortable and bulky to wear a chest harness under your pack. The neck camera harnesses are less bulky, but they can rub against your neck. Despite this, a harness might be the best solution for hiking with really large, heavy cameras. A lot of serious photographers wear by them for carrying their cameras when hiking. Lots of hikers recommend [Cotton Carrier harnesses](https://amzn.to/4dCmpOP). They have a lot of good ones to choose from. ### Pros: - One of the best ways to carry really large, heavy cameras - Keeps camera secure when climbing - Some solutions let you carry multiple cameras at once ### Cons: - Big and bulky - Makes it difficult to adjust your layers **[Get It Here](https://amzn.to/4dCmpOP)** --- ## 5. [Camera Holster/Bag Attached to Pack Straps](https://www.amazon.com/Think-Tank-Digital-Holster-Camera/dp/B0D89H2L3M?tag=momcampnew-20) [![Camera holster bag attached to backpack straps for hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/camera-holster-to-straps.jpg)](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/camera-holster-to-straps.jpg) If you are really worried about your camera taking a beating while hiking, or it is bad weather, this is your best solution. You simply attach the camera holster to your backpack straps instead of wearing it around your neck. You can use quick connectors or carabiners. Leave the holster unzipped and you’ll have quick access to your camera. But, if you are leaving it unzipped, you’ll want to wear the camera strap around your neck as a precaution. Since the holster is supported by the backpack, the camera strap doesn’t dig into your neck. Obviously, this setup is pretty bulky. The holster can end up swinging around a lot. If it is too low (or you’ve got a massive camera), then it can restrict movement as you hike. A holster like the [Think Tank Digital Holster](https://www.amazon.com/Think-Tank-Digital-Holster-Camera/dp/B0D89H2L3M?tag=momcampnew-20) attaches to your pack’s belt loop or strap rail, has padded protection built in, and holds accessories like an extra memory card or battery so everything’s in one spot. ### Pros: - Protects camera from damage and bad weather - Can hold other photo gear too ### Cons: - Big and bulky **[Get It Here](https://www.amazon.com/Think-Tank-Digital-Holster-Camera/dp/B0D89H2L3M?tag=momcampnew-20)** --- ## 6. [Quick Connectors](https://amzn.to/4wHF70g) Attached to Your Pack [![quick connectors for carrying camera when hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/camera-quick-clip-connector-system-for-hiking.jpg)](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/camera-quick-clip-connector-system-for-hiking.jpg) An incredibly cheap solution for carrying your camera hiking is to use two quick connector straps. Attach one side of each strap to your camera and the other side to your backpack (either to the lift-loader straps or sternum-strap connection points) There are two main pitfalls to this setup. First, you have to use reliable connectors ([these ones](https://amzn.to/4wHF70g) are good). Otherwise you might have the cheap plastic fail on you. A simple fix is to still wear a neck strap as a backup: since the quick connectors are holding the camera, the strap doesn’t actually dig into your neck. The second pitfall is that “quick release” isn’t always quick release. It can be difficult to unbuckle the connectors quickly, and annoying to buckle them back in place. Some quick connector buckles are really small, so it’s hard to use with gloved hands. In the photos above, you can see how the hiker used a thicker buckle strap to attach his camera. Since he only used one strap, he doesn’t have to unclip anything to access it, but there’s a lot of swinging (I personally would use two straps, one for each side!). When not in use, he puts the sternum strap over the lens to secure it in place. Not exactly comfortable but gets the job done. 😊 ### Pros: - Cheap solution - Keeps camera mounted high and in middle of chest – good for climbing ### Cons: - Connectors might fail - Slightly annoying to take camera on/off **[Get It Here](https://amzn.to/4wHF70g)** --- ## 7. DIY Hiking Camera Strap from Paracord ![diy paracord camera strap for hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/diy-camera-strap-for-hiking.jpg)![homemade paracord camera strap for hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/homemade-camera-strap-for-hiking.jpg) While waiting for my PD Capture Clip to arrive in the mail, I made myself this camera strap out of paracord and some carabiners. It worked surprisingly well on hikes. I wear the strap around my neck. But there are two carabiners which I attach to my pack’s straps. This setup keeps the strap from digging into my neck. The camera is also stable in the middle of my chest, so it wasn’t swinging around and worked great for hiking. If I want to wear it as a normal strap (not connected to my backpack), it’s still fairly comfortable because the “cobra knot weave” has a nice rounded edge to it. It did take a bit of time to unclip the carabiners, so it’s not ideal for wildlife photography. But, considering that the DIY strap cost less than a $3 to make, I’m quite happy with it. Plus, I love how dorky it is :p **Notes:** - I later added a few more knots to the strap. This allows me to put the carabiners in different positions so I can adjust the height of the camera on my chest. - You could also use a sliding knot (like a tautline hitch) on the ends which attach to the camera. This would allow you to quickly adjust the length of the strap. - The lens cap is made from the lid of a plastic toothpick container which I covered with duct tape. I did order a new lens cap, but this works well in the meantime 😀 ## Carrying a Camera Hiking FAQ: ### What’s the best way to carry a camera while hiking? For most hikers, a backpack-strap clip like the Peak Design Capture Clip is the best option, it keeps the camera close to your body, accessible in seconds, and off your neck entirely. For very large or heavy cameras, a chest harness distributes the weight better. Whatever you choose, avoid leaving the camera buried in your pack: if it isn’t accessible, you won’t take photos. ### Is it bad to hike with a camera around your neck? A camera hanging from a plain neck strap will swing as you hike, strain your neck and shoulders, and can bang against rocks on scrambles. If you want to keep using a neck strap, clip it to your backpack straps with carabiners so the pack carries the weight instead of your neck, the strap then just acts as a backup. **How do you carry your camera hiking? Let us know in the comments section below!** *Image credits: “[DIY Hiking Strap: Stowed](https://www.flickr.com/photos/sequoia/4908489009/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [treeswing](https://www.flickr.com/people/sequoia/) “[Pacific Crest Trail Through Hikers](https://www.flickr.com/photos/ex_magician/7737299174/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [ex\_magician](https://www.flickr.com/people/ex_magician/) “[DIY Hiking Strap: In Action](https://www.flickr.com/photos/sequoia/4909088450/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [treeswing](https://www.flickr.com/people/sequoia/) “[DIY Hiking Strap: At Rest](https://www.flickr.com/photos/sequoia/4908484487/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [treeswing](https://www.flickr.com/people/sequoia/)* *Sources: <https://www.reddit.com/r/photography/comments/d6prvj/hiking_photographers_what_do_you_use_to_carry/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/8bdua7/alternatives_to_peak_design_capture_clip/>* ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking --- ### [Best Baby Camping Beds 2026: Safe Picks for Every Age](https://momgoescamping.com/baby-camping-beds/) **Published:** June 20, 2019 **Author:** Diane **Content:** A portable baby bed isn’t something you absolutely need to go camping. However, a baby bed does make some aspects of camping with a baby easier. Here are some of the best baby beds for camping, as picked by outdoor parents. ## Quick Recommendations: - **Best Overall:** [Joovy Coo Portable Bassinet-to-Playpen](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NFSY5WW/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07NFSY5WW&linkId=056285b6479627cfa7ddef4285f599ad) – It can be used as a playpen or a bassinet, so you can use it from infancy into toddlerhood. - **Best for Infants and/or Small Tents:** [Brica Folding Travel Bassinet](https://www.amazon.com/Brica-Fold-Go-Travel-Bassinet/dp/B004L2JJ6E?tag=momcampnew-20) – A small, simple sleeper box that has a built-in mosquito net. - **Best for Crawling/Walking Babies:** [Baby Delight Go with Me Nod Deluxe Portable Crib](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B082J86RT2/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B082J86RT2&linkId=663ff6e35cb01d2ec2ba63db5d3bc73e) – The shape means it fits inside tents better than most other playpens. It’s also lighter, easy to fold, and has a zippable door opening. **Not sure what else to bring? See my [camping with a baby checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-with-baby-checklist/) here.** ## Best Baby Camping Beds Here are the top picks for portable baby camping cribs, bassinets, and playpens which can double as camping cribs. ### 1. [Joovy Coo Portable Bassinet-to-Playpen](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NFSY5WW/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07NFSY5WW&linkId=056285b6479627cfa7ddef4285f599ad) ![joovy coo portable camping bed for babies](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/joovy-coo-portable-bed.jpg) This portable baby bed has a very cool design which makes it versatile enough for camping and other travel. You can put the mattress up top to use it as a bassinet. In this position, your baby will be elevated off the ground and you’ll also have storage underneath. Unzip the mattress and lower it down to turn it into a playpen. The legs unlock so you can rock it too – just be careful that the legs don’t rip your tent floor. There is a side zipper so you can get your baby in/out from below, though it is a very tiny opening. You *might* be able to breastfeed your baby while she is still in the bed, but you’d have to wriggle very close. Open, the bed is 41 inches long, so it will fit infants and older babies. The bed also only weighs 17lbs and folds down very compact, so it’s practical to take traveling. - **Size**: 41x25x28 inches (LxWxH) - **Weight**: 17lbs - **Age**: 0 to 35 inches tall **[Get It Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NFSY5WW/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07NFSY5WW&linkId=056285b6479627cfa7ddef4285f599ad)** --- ### 2. [Brica Folding Travel Bassinet](https://www.amazon.com/Brica-Fold-Go-Travel-Bassinet/dp/B004L2JJ6E?tag=momcampnew-20) ![Brica portable baby bassinet for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/brica-travel-bed-camping.jpg) This travel bassinet (which is actually more like a co-sleeper box) is very popular because it opens/closes easily, is lightweight, and is compact. It also has a built-in mosquito net so your baby can nap outdoors in it while camping. Just note that this travel bassinet is meant for infants. It’s only 29.5 inches long when unfolded, so your baby will probably outgrow it by 5 or 6 months old. The mattress is about 1 inch thick, so you’ll need to put a sleeping pad underneath the bassinet if it is really cold weather. - **Size:** 29x21x12.5 inches (LxWxH) - **Weight:** 6lbs - **Age:** Until 3 months or 15lbs **[Get It Here](https://www.amazon.com/Brica-Fold-Go-Travel-Bassinet/dp/B004L2JJ6E?tag=momcampnew-20)** --- ### 3. [Baby Delight Go with Me Nod Deluxe Portable Crib](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B082J86RT2/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B082J86RT2&linkId=663ff6e35cb01d2ec2ba63db5d3bc73e) ![baby delight nod deluxe portable crib for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/nod-playpen.jpg) Baby Delight makes a lot of cool baby gear for outdoor use (like [their baby camping chair](https://momgoescamping.com/the-only-baby-camping-chairs-worth-buying/)). I particularly love this travel crib for camping because it actually works well in a tent and outdoors. The materials are water-resistant and the removable mattress is waterproof. Unlike other portable playpens (which tend to be square), this playpen is rectangular. It is long enough to comfortably fit older toddlers but narrow so it doesn’t take up too much space in the tent. Another awesome feature is that it has a large zippable side wall. I find this very useful for getting a sleeping baby into the bed without waking her. It’s also possible to breastfeed a baby inside the playpen while lying down next to it. Just note that the mattress is really thin so you’ll need to put your baby on a sleeping pad too. And don’t forget to put something underneath the tent legs or they will rip a hole in the tent floor! - **Size**: 44x23x26″ (LxWxH) - **Weight**: 17lbs - **Age**: 0-3 years (50lbs) **[Get It Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B082J86RT2/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B082J86RT2&linkId=663ff6e35cb01d2ec2ba63db5d3bc73e)** --- ### 4. [Lotus Travel Crib](https://amzn.to/3crYq3v) ![Lotus travel crib for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/lotus-travel-crib.jpg) Here’s another great portable playpen that works well enough as a baby camping bed. Like the Baby Delight crib, it also has a zippered side entry so you can spare your back. The zippered door is a bit bigger on this one so you could even breastfeed your child in lying position if you positioned the crib next to you in the tent. I really like how lightweight (only 13lbs) and easy to set up the Lotus travel crib is. Despite being so lightweight, it’s very sturdy: it can withstand a toddler shaking and kicking at it. It’s also more compact and has a backpack-style carrying case. The reason it didn’t get listed higher up is because it is slightly pricy. However, if you use a travel crib regularly, then it’s worth the price. - **Size**: 42x32x25 inches (LxWxH) - **Weight**: 13lbs - **Age**: 0-3 years **[Get it here](https://amzn.to/3crYq3v)** #### Heading out soon with your little one? My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup, print them before you go. **[Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** --- ### 5. [Dream On Me Lotus Rocking Bassinet](https://www.amazon.com/Dream-Me-Bassinet-Bedside-Sleeper/dp/B07ZK24VJX?keywords=portable%2Bbassinet&qid=1651658012&s=baby-products&sr=1-31-spons&th=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=39677fd817161ed846db8fd027017586&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) ![lotus side sleeper baby bed](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/lotus-side-sleeper.jpg) The main feature which makes this bassinet good for camping is that it has four separate legs, so it is actually stable on uneven ground. Most other baby bassinets only have two legs. I also love that it comes with a built-in mosquito net and has a rocking feature. It’s also much sturdier than similar bassinets. The bassinet is not cheap, so I probably wouldn’t buy it just for camping. However, it would also make a great bassinet for everyday use too. One side can be folded down so you can put it next to your bed. - **Size**: 37x23x26 inches (LxWxH) - **Weight**: 17lbs - **Age**: Babies up to 25lbs **[Get It Here](https://www.amazon.com/Dream-Me-Bassinet-Bedside-Sleeper/dp/B07ZK24VJX?keywords=portable%2Bbassinet&qid=1651658012&s=baby-products&sr=1-31-spons&th=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=39677fd817161ed846db8fd027017586&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl)** --- ### 6. [Baby Delight Snuggle Nest](https://amzn.to/3QFGXei) ![baby delight sleep lounger](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/baby-delight-sleep-lounger.jpg) Here is a co-sleeper with some nice features that make it good for camping. It is very lightweight and folds down to 14.4″ x 15″ x 8.5″. The mattress has a waterproof cover, so you can just change the sheet on top if an accident happens. The sides are actually rigid (you won’t roll over on your baby!) and have venting to keep your baby cool. You can also use this for changing diapers too. - **Size**: 33x14x8 inches (LxWxH) - **Weight**: 2.8lbs - **Age**: Babies up to approximately 9 months **[Get It Here](https://amzn.to/3QFGXei)** --- ### 7. [Graco Pack n’ Play](https://amzn.to/3Z8vvtg) ![graco pack n play for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/pack-n-play.jpg) Even though the Graco Pack n’ Play is very popular and many parents recommend it, I personally don’t like it for camping. It’s way too large to fit in most tents. The walls are very high, so it’s hard to get your baby in/out without your head hitting the tent ceiling. However, one big plus is that the entire bed area is elevated off the ground. You can set it up outside even if it’s muddy without getting the bottom really dirty (setting it up without getting it muddy is another issue though!). You’ll also need to have a very large tent to fit the Pack n’ Play inside. Be careful when moving it around the tent so you don’t damage the tent floor. I still included it on this list of baby camping beds though because it’s so popular and affordable. - **Size**: 40x28x29 inches (LxWxH) - **Weight**: 23lbs - **Age**: 0-2 years **[Get It Here](https://amzn.to/3Z8vvtg)** --- ### 8. [Flisko 2-in-1 Travel Crib and Bassinet](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B087GYZ19V/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B087GYZ19V&linkId=9a785352ec4f55de7e6100d26a201644) ![Flisko 2-in-1 travel crib and bassinet](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/flisko-1.jpg) The Flisko is another playpen-style travel crib. It’s slightly smaller than most portable playpens/cribs, so it might fit in your tent better. I love the side-zip entrance and the material which are easy to clean. What makes this travel crib stand out from the others above is that it has a bassinet. The bassinet clips to the top of the crib as a separate piece. If you don’t bring the bassinet part, the crib is even more lightweight (the total weight is 13lbs). Because it is so lightweight, **the Flisko isn’t as sturdy** as the Pack n’ Play, Baby Delight, or Lotus travel cribs. If lightweight is what you want though, then it’s worth sacrificing some sturdiness – so long as you don’t have a baby who likes to jump on the railings! - **Size**: 21x35x23 inches (LxWxH) - **Weight**: 13lbs - **Age**: 0-3 years **[Get It Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B087GYZ19V/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B087GYZ19V&linkId=9a785352ec4f55de7e6100d26a201644)** --- ## Does Your Baby Really Need a Camping Bed? No. Your baby can sleep next to you in the tent on a sleeping pad. This is how I usually slept with my baby on backpacking trips. You just need to make sure that the pad has a good R-value (insulation rating) *and* that it is firm. Babies shouldn’t sleep on air mattresses. However, there are some good reasons why it might be worth bringing a baby bed camping: **Bring a baby bed so you:** - **Don’t worry about squishing your baby while co-sleeping in the tent.** - **Keep your baby from wriggling all over the tent** (and kicking you in the face!). - **Have somewhere safe to put your baby while you do camp chores.** - **Keep mosquitoes off your baby.** - **Keep your baby safe from spiders, snakes, scorpions, choking hazards, etc.** Once you know why you want the baby bed, you will better be able to choose the right one. For example, if my main concern was keeping my baby on the sleeping pad at night, I’d get a co-sleeper box. But, if I want my crawling baby to nap outside, I would choose a playpen with a built-in mosquito net. ![babies sleeping in a tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/organizing-babies-camping.jpg)Baby camping beds are a good way to keep your kids “organized” in the tent 😀 ## Types of Baby Camping Beds You’ve got three main options for a camping bed for your baby: co-sleepers, portable bassinets, and portable cribs/playpens. If you don’t mind bringing a lot of stuff while camping, you might even want to bring two of these options (like a bassinet for inside the tent and a playpen for the campsite). ### Option 1: Co-Sleeper Boxes **Get this if:** Your major concern is rolling over on your baby. ![the SwaddleMe co-sleeping box](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Swaddle-Me-By-Your-Side-Co-Sleeper.jpg) A co-sleeper box is the most basic baby camping bed you can get. They are designed to prevent you from rolling over on your baby while co-sleeping, but have the added benefit of keeping your wriggly baby in place (which is great for babies that like to wriggle off their sleeping pads while camping). **Pros** - Usually cheap - Keeps baby from wriggling off sleeping pad - Prevents you from squishing your baby - Easy to fit in all types of tents - Small and lightweight **Cons** - Doesn’t elevate baby off the ground - No mosquito protection - Crawling/walking children can easily get out --- ### Option 2: Portable Bassinets **Get this if:** You want to keep your baby off the ground *and* have a mosquito net. There are lots of portable bassinets which can be used as baby camping beds. They are definitely bulkier and heavier than a co-sleeper box, but have the benefit of more features. The bassinet will also keep your baby off the ground, which is useful if you want your baby to sleep outside but don’t want to worry about other campers tripping over her. Because bassinets are tall, you’ll want a [cabin tent](https://momgoescamping.com/best-cabin-tents-family-camping/) (with vertical walls). **Pros** - Elevate baby off the ground - Some have mosquito nets **Cons** - Not suitable for older babies or toddlers - Don’t fit well in small tents - Have to lift baby in/out of it for nighttime feedings - Some are expensive --- ### Option 3: Portable Cribs and Play Pens **Get this if:** You have a crawling baby and want to use it outdoors during the day too. ![Pack n Play for camping with a baby](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/camping-with-baby-travelmadmum.jpg)A [Pack ‘n Play](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08571J5LK/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08571J5LK&linkId=46d47b78b672f304581a7b250046e81a) in the tent – but you’ll need a big tent! Image courtesy of [Travel Mad Mum](https://travelmadmum.com/camping-baby/) Once your child starts walking (but is still too young to understand the concept of danger!), these are great for camping. The larger ones double as play pens. You’ll be able to put your child down without worrying that she’ll run off or start eating a bunch of mud (though that would [probably boost immunity](https://momgoescamping.com/let-kids-get-dirty/)!). If you have a smaller tent, then many portable play pens won’t fit inside. **Pros** - Good for older children too - Crawling/walking babies can’t get out - Baby can play in it while you do camp tasks - Easy to put a mosquito net over - Often come with changing stations **Cons** - Take up a lot of space - Have to lift child in/out for nighttime feedings - Difficult to get sleeping baby in without waking her - Legs might damage the tent floor (see how it is propped on blocks in the image above) --- ## Choosing a Portable Baby Bed for Camping ### Will the Bed Fit in the Tent? Unless you have a very large tent, many portable baby beds aren’t going to fit inside. Even if they do fit, remember that you will probably be sleeping on the ground. If your baby wakes up at night, then you’ve got to get completely out of your sleeping bag, stand up, and bend over (bumping your head on the tent roof) to get your baby. For this reason, I personally prefer bassinets and co-sleeper boxes for inside the tent. However, portable playpens are really great to have if your baby naps outside or you need to keep her safe while you do tasks. ### Consider the Bed’s Legs Don’t overlook the legs on the portable baby bed. If there are legs, there should be four of them (not two); this provides more stability. Also look for wide feet as these will be more stable on uneven, bumpy ground. Keep in mind that the feet can damage your tent floor. You’ll want to put something underneath the feet, like a bit of foam pad. ### How Easy Is It To Clean? Assuming that you will be using the baby camping bed outside too, you’ll need to make sure it is easy to clean. Look for materials which can be quickly wiped down. The mattress should have a waterproof cover. Or, just leave their mattress at home and put a sleeping pad inside the bed instead. ## Important: Sleeping Pads and Camping Cribs Many portable cribs and bassinets don’t have mattresses underneath them, or the mattresses are really crappy. **It is really important that you provide insulation for child from underneath.** Otherwise, the ground will literally suck the heat right out of your child. I talk about this in my post about [how to sleep in a tent with a baby](https://momgoescamping.com/sleep-tent-with-baby/). ## Baby Camping Bed FAQ ### What is the safest way for a baby to sleep while camping? The safest setup for a baby under 12 months is a firm, flat surface in a wearable sleeping bag, not a fluffy sleeping bag or loose blankets. A co-sleeper box or portable bassinet on top of a firm sleeping pad works well. Avoid air mattresses for babies, they’re too soft and create a suffocation risk. For babies sharing a sleeping space with parents, a co-sleeper box prevents rolling while keeping the baby within reach for nighttime feeds. ### Do I need a special tent for camping with a baby? Not necessarily, but size matters more than type. You need enough floor space for your sleeping area plus the baby bed. For most families that means a 4-person tent minimum if you’re bringing a portable crib or playpen. Cabin-style tents with vertical walls work better with tall bassinets than dome tents where sloped walls take up floor space. The most important feature is a good rain fly with ventilation, since you need to keep condensation off the baby’s sleeping area. ![best sleeping bags for babies](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/morrison-sleeping-bag-for-baby.jpg)This baby is warm even on the snow in the [Morrison baby sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/morrison-down) on top of the [Therm-a-Rest Zlite Sol pad](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dz%2Blite%2Bsol%26pagesize%3D90). **Do you go camping with your baby? What bed setup do you use? Let us know in the comments!** *Resources:* - [Mountain Project: Balancing Kids and Climbing](https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/114374279/balancing-kids-and-climbing) - [Expedition Portal: RTT Camping with an Infant](https://expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/rtt-camping-with-a-infant.142649/page-2) *Image credits: “[Striking Camping Trip #1](https://www.flickr.com/photos/grahamandsheila/2819537185/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Graham and Sheila](https://www.flickr.com/people/grahamandsheila/), “[babies camping](https://www.flickr.com/photos/20733221@N07/2036086933/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [alaska meads](https://www.flickr.com/people/20733221@N07/), photo courtesy of [Travel Mad Mum](https://travelmadmum.com/camping-baby/)* ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** baby, camping with a baby --- ### [Best 6 Person Tents for Family Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/best-6-person-tents/) **Published:** November 25, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** If your family has three or four members, you will most likely want at least a 6 person tent. This will give you enough room to sleep comfortably and move around in the tent without waking each other up. It will still be a bit cramped but, compared to larger family tents, a 6 person tent is still easy to pitch and relatively lightweight. Below are the best 6-person family tents, including some hardcore ones for serious campers as well as budget 6p tents for newbies or those who only camp in ideal weather. If you aren’t sure what type of tent you want, I suggest you read this post about [the 10 types of tents and their pros/cons](https://momgoescamping.com/types-camping-tents-with-photos/). I personally prefer dome tents but, depending on your camping style (and height) you might prefer a different type. ## Quick Picks - **Best Overall: [Eureka! Space Camp](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07KT9VVPZ/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07KT9VVPZ&linkId=34565cf2d52f970c81646f27bf1e2509)** - **Runner Up: [REI Wonderland](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F202982%2Frei-co-op-wonderland-6-tent)** - **Best for Hot Weather: [Coleman Darkroom](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019YDV6A6/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B019YDV6A6&linkId=d5dbd54d13dc2634c9c81c2deae29cd7)** - **Fastest Setup: [Coleman Skylodge](https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Weatherproof-Pre-Attached-PFAS-Free-Materials/dp/B0D96YJTYT?tag=momcampnew-20)** - **Budget Pick: [Coleman Instant 6P Cabin Tent](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004E4ERHA/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B004E4ERHA&linkId=fdb103c19999a33936b518bae58364ae)** #### Become a camping pro with printable Camping Cheat Sheets Everything from packing lists to campsite setup, ready to print before you go. **[Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** ## Comparison Table: 6P Tents | Tent | Type | Rooms | Footprint | Headroom | Weight | Vestibules | Doors | |---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---| | Big Agnes Big House | Cabin | 1 | 9.8×8.3′ | 81″ | 16.4lbs | 0 | 2 | | Coleman Dark Room | Dome | 1 | 10×9′ | 68″ | 17lbs | 1 | 1 | | Coleman Instant Cabin | Cabin | 1 | 10×9′ | 72″ | 24lbs | 0 | 1 | | Coleman Skylodge | Cabin | 1 | 10×9′ | 75″ | 24lbs | 0 | 2 | | Coleman Skydome | Dome | 1 | 10×8.5′ | 72″ | 19.5lbs | 1 | 1 | | Eureka Space Camp | Cabin | 1 | 10×8.3′ | 78″ | 16.1lbs | 2 | 2 | | REI Base Camp | Dome | 1 | 9.2×9.2′ | 74″ | 20.6lbs | 2 | 2 | | North Face Wawona 6 | Mod. dome | 1 | 10×8’+4.25×8.5′ | 76″ | 21lbs | 1 | 2 | | REI Wonderland | Tunnel | 2 | 10×8.3′ | 78″ | 22.9lbs | 1 | 2 | ## Best 6 Person Tents ### Eureka! Space Camp 6 **Best for:** Spacious, lots of headroom, and lightweight ![eureka space camp family cabin tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/eureka-space-camp-family-cabin-tent.jpg) #### Features - **Rooms:** 1 plus two vestibules - **Type:** Dome tent - **Footprint size:** 10×8.3 feet - **Max height:** 78 inches - **Weight:** 16lbs 1oz - **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07KT9VVPZ/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07KT9VVPZ&linkId=34565cf2d52f970c81646f27bf1e2509)** #### Review Considering how big it is, the Eureka! Space Camp 6P tent is pretty lightweight. Even though it is a cabin tent, it handles rain well because of its full rainfly. The vertical walls do fall around in the wind, but they mean you get more usable space inside the tent. There are some nice features built into the tent, like vents in the rain fly to prevent condensation. I love that there are two entry doors – one in the front and one in the back – for easier getting in/out of the tent. Each door has a vestibule so you get lots of storage space. Note there is a lot of mesh on the inner tent, and this mesh can’t be zipped up. It’s great for ventilation but means you will have zero privacy in the tent if the fly is off. Also note that the floor is pretty thin and you’ll want to get a groundsheet. **Pros** - Two doors and two vestibules - Excellent ventilation - Lightweight - Vestibule converts to awning **Cons** - Interior mesh windows may be drafty - Thin floor - Pricy **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07KT9VVPZ/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07KT9VVPZ&linkId=34565cf2d52f970c81646f27bf1e2509)** --- ### REI Wonderland 6 **Best for:** Loaded with features and has two rooms #### Features - **Rooms:** 2 - **Type:** Tunnel tent - **Footprint size:** 10’x8.3′ - **Max height:** 78 inches - **Weight:** 22lbs 15oz - **[Buy Here](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F202982%2Frei-co-op-wonderland-6-tent)** #### Review The Wonderland 6P is REI’s upgrade to their incredibly-popular Kingdom 6P tent for family camping. Like its predecessor, the Wonderland has a divider so you can create two rooms in the tent. There are also massive front and back doors, so you can enter each room independently. The walls are nearly vertical, so you get a lot of headroom despite it being a tunnel tent. I usually don’t like tunnel tents because they aren’t freestanding and you have to stake them out very well. However, the REI Wonderland has a central pole that makes it more stable and allows it to be freestanding. You’ll still have a lot of guylines to deal with, but it’s better than most tunnel tents. There are loads of features on the tent, including vents for condensation and storage pockets. The only thing I really dislike about this tent is that the fly doesn’t create a full vestibule. There is an optional “mud room” that you can attach to the front to get storage space, but this has to be purchased separately – and it’s expensive. The fly also doesn’t completely cover the sides of the tent, which means rain can be a problem. For a tent this expensive, I’d expect better. Regardless, it’s still an impressive tent that performs better than most 6P tents in wind, cold and rain. **Pros** - Two rooms and two doors - Color coded poles - Windows and good ventilation - Freestanding - Storage pockets **Cons** - Fly isn’t full coverage - Vestibule sold separately - Pricy **[Buy Here](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F202982%2Frei-co-op-wonderland-6-tent)** --- ### REI Base Camp 6 **Best for:** Bad weather and winter ![REI Base Camp 6P tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/rei-base-camp-family-tent-6P-Copy.jpg) #### Features - **Rooms:** 1 plus two vestibules - **Type:** Dome tent - **Footprint size:** 110×110″ - **Max height:** 74 inches - **Weight:** 20lbs 10oz - **[Buy Here](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F227904%2Frei-co-op-base-camp-6-tent)** #### Review At just 9.2×9.2 feet in size, the REI Base Camp is the smallest 6P tent reviewed here. You’ll only fit 6 people if someone lays at the feet. The headroom is also pretty low with a max height of just 74 inches. The geodesic pole structure means you get a bit more interior space than a normal dome tent. To compensate for the small size, the Base Camp tent does have two doors and two vestibules for storage space. You’ll want to choose this smaller tent though if you camp in 3-4 season weather. The tent shape handles wind very well and snow falls off of it. Setup is pretty easy because the poles are color coded. I hate sleeves for poles (clips are easier) but the sleeves are sturdier overall. The REI Base Camp is a 3-4 season tent. It has a geodesic dome design, which essentially means that the poles cross over each other. This structure makes the tent much sturdier so it can withstand high winds and heavy rains. The tent definitely won’t leak – though some rain may get in through the top vents if it is very windy out. **Pros** - 3-4 season tent - Color coded poles - Two doors and vestibules **Cons** - One room - Thin floor material - Footprint sold separately - Uses pole sleeves instead of clips **[Buy Here](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F227904%2Frei-co-op-base-camp-6-tent)** --- ### Coleman 6P Dark Room Tent with Screen Room **Best for:** Summer camping in sunny weather ![Coleman 6 person dark room tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/coleman-dark-tent-Copy.jpg) #### Features - **Rooms:** 1 plus screen room - **Type:** Dome tent - **Footprint size:** 10×9 feet - **Max height:** 68 inches - **Weight:** 17lbs - **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019YDV6A6/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B019YDV6A6&linkId=d5dbd54d13dc2634c9c81c2deae29cd7)** #### Review This is one of Coleman’s Dark Room tents: they are made from materials which block sun and heat. It’s a great feature to have when camping in summertime, especially if you like to sleep in. As expected from a cheap tent, the Dark Room 6P is pretty basic. It doesn’t have ventilation so condensation is bad in cold weather. I also hate that some guylines go in front of the tent, which is a tripping hazard. I’d buy some florescent guylines to use instead. On the plus side, poles are pre-attached to the tent so you can set it up very quickly. The tent is lightweight at 17lbs, has some storage pockets and has a hinged door. Note there are two versions of the Dark Room 6P: Classic and with Screen Room. The screen room is a very cool feature. You can hang out there and hide from mosquitoes or keep gear there. The problem is that there is no way to zip up the screen panels. If it rains, the entire area will get wet – thus making it useless for storage in bad weather. You’d have to hang a tarp over it to keep it dry. **Pros** - Quick setup - Blocks light and heat - Hinged door **Cons** - Screen room isn’t rain proof - Can trip over guylines **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019YDV6A6/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B019YDV6A6&linkId=d5dbd54d13dc2634c9c81c2deae29cd7)** --- ### Coleman Skylodge 6-Person Instant Tent **Best for:** Fastest setup of any tent on this list *\[NEEDS PRODUCT IMAGE — upload a Skylodge photo to the media library and replace this placeholder\]* #### Features - **Rooms:** 1 - **Type:** Cabin tent - **Footprint size:** 10×9 feet - **Max height:** 75 inches - **Weight:** 24lbs - **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Weatherproof-Pre-Attached-PFAS-Free-Materials/dp/B0D96YJTYT?tag=momcampnew-20)** #### Review If you want to spend your weekend actually camping instead of wrestling with poles, the Skylodge is genuinely the fastest tent to set up on this entire list – about 1 minute, thanks to telescoping poles that are pre-attached to the tent. There’s no threading anything through sleeves and no sorting through a pile of loose pole segments. The front-left corner of the tent, rainfly, and pole sleeve are all color coded to make orientation foolproof, which matters when you’re setting up camp with kids underfoot. It comes with 2 wide doors (front and back), which makes it a lot easier to move air mattresses and gear in and out compared to single-door cabin tents in this price range. The WeatherTec system (welded corners, inverted seams, taped rainfly seams) and a frame tested to withstand 35mph winds means it holds up fine in typical campground weather. The large door awning adds a bit of extra weather protection and helps with airflow too. The honest caveat: multiple owner reviews mention leaking during sustained, heavy rain – the rainfly handles normal campground drizzle fine, but water can work its way in at the seams and front awning area during a real storm. This is a fair-weather family tent built for convenience, not a storm shelter, so plan accordingly if the forecast looks rough. **Pros** - Fastest setup of any tent here (~1 minute) - Two doors, front and back - Color-coded parts make setup foolproof - Tested to withstand 35mph winds **Cons** - Can leak at seams in sustained heavy rain - Heaviest tent on this list at 24lbs - No vestibule **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Weatherproof-Pre-Attached-PFAS-Free-Materials/dp/B0D96YJTYT?tag=momcampnew-20)** --- ### Big Agnes Big House 6P **Best for:** Lightweight and versatile ![Big Agnes Big House family camping cabin tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/big-agnes-big-house-family-cabin-camping-tent.jpg) #### Features - **Rooms:** 1 plus optional vestibule - **Type:** Cabin - **Footprint size:** 118×100 inches - **Max height:** 81 inches - **Weight:** 16.4lbs - **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B081758H43/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B081758H43&linkId=2f860e22dd9c11ce0a824b7da3ec755f)** #### Review I love the Big House 6P tent because it is incredibly versatile. It serves very well as a family cabin tent that fits up to 6 people (realistically, 2-3 adults and 2-3 kids or dogs). You can also set up the rain fly by itself to use as a shade shelter. If you need more space, there is an optional vestibule (sold separately) that connects to the front of the tent. As you’d expect from Big Agnes, the tent withstands bad weather really well. The rain fly actually extends far down the side of the tent so no leakage occurs. There are flaps over the zippers to keep rain from getting through. The seams are sealed very well so you won’t have to reseal them anytime soon. Because there are just two and a half poles, the cabin tent is stupidly easy to set up. You just slide the poles through the small sleeves and then clip in place. The only real downside is that there aren’t any windows to look out and it gets dark in the tent. **Pros** - Handles bad weather well - Can use rainfly as a shelter - Optional vestibule - Lightweight for size - Storage pockets **Cons** - Not much light inside tent - Pricy - Vestibule sold separately **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B081758H43/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B081758H43&linkId=2f860e22dd9c11ce0a824b7da3ec755f)** --- ### North Face Wawona 6P **Best for:** Lots of storage space ![north face wawona 6p tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/north-face-wawona-6p-tent.jpg) #### Features - **Rooms:** 1.5 - **Type:** Modified dome - **Footprint size:** 10×8’+4.25×8.5′ vestibule - **Max height:** 76 inches - **Weight:** 21lbs - **Buy Here: [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F204311%2Fthe-north-face-wawona-6-tent) / [Amazon](https://amzn.to/4bzi10U)** #### Review While very pricy, the North Face Wawona 6p tent has an amazing design that makes it great for family camping. The main area is large enough to fit four people comfortable. You could fit 6 people, but only if everyone is really small and likes each other. 🙂 The real highlight of the tent is its massive vestibule and covered entrance area. This provides an additional 44 sq. feet (the main area is 88 sq. feet). Someone could sleep out there if they don’t mind insects. There’s also a back door to the tent, which is convenient for ventilation. The additional door also gives you some more flexibility with how you want to sleep: you can sleep horizontally to the doors and still enter/exit without having to climb over everyone. As expected from the North Face, the tent is very high quality and will withstand bad weather. It’s easy to set up, though I do wish it used clips instead of sleeves for the pole. The front vestibule also needs to be staked out well, which isn’t always easy on compact or sandy ground. **Pros** - High-quality tent - Massive vestibule and covered entrance - Two doors - Withstands bad weather **Cons** - Expensive - Pole sleeves instead of clips **Buy Here: [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F204311%2Fthe-north-face-wawona-6-tent) / [Amazon](https://amzn.to/4bzi10U)** --- ### Coleman Skydome with Full Fly Vestibule **Best for:** Mid-priced tent which works in many conditions ![Coleman Skydome 6P tent with vestibule](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/coleman-skydome-Copy.jpg) #### Features - **Rooms:** 1 plus vestibule - **Type:** Dome - **Footprint size:** 10×8.5 feet - **Max height:** 72 inches - **Weight:** 19.5lbs - **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08KGQ99JT/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08KGQ99JT&linkId=2858fd365ba177283d7c461c29011595)** #### Review Coleman makes a few versions of the Skydome family tent. You’ll want to get the version with a full fly vestibule. This essentially gives you an extra room for storing gear. The vestibule area is completely protected from rain. The tent is pre-attached to poles so it is very fast to set up. There are some other nice usability features too, like vents, a hole for extension cables, and storage pockets. It handles bad weather well enough so long as you stake it out completely. **Pros** - Large door - Quick setup - Decent ventilation - Sturdy tent **Cons** - Zippers get stuck - Not great in cold weather **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08KGQ99JT/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08KGQ99JT&linkId=2858fd365ba177283d7c461c29011595)** --- ### Coleman 6P Instant Cabin Tent **Best for:** Budget 6 person tent ![Coleman instant cabin tent for family camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/coleman-instant-tent.jpg) #### Features - **Rooms:** 1 - **Type:** Cabin - **Footprint size:** 10×9 feet - **Max height:** 72 inches - **Weight:** 24lbs - **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004E4ERHA/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B004E4ERHA&linkId=fdb103c19999a33936b518bae58364ae)** #### Review This is one of Coleman’s most popular family camping tents. The tent is great for beginner campers because it is very affordable and has instant setup. The design means it’s one of the few cabin tents that short people can put up. Despite being so cheap, the tent actually holds up well. It handles rainy weather well, but you can expect some leaking through the windows or doors in heavy thunderstorms. It’s a 1-layer tent, which means that there is no separate rain fly to put on. This makes it faster and easier to set up. However, 1-layer tents almost always have [condensation problems](https://momgoescamping.com/tent-condensation/). There is a vent in the roof to help with condensation, but it will still get wet inside in colder temperatures. While the tent itself is large, there isn’t any vestibule, awning or other storage in front. It can quickly get crowded inside the tent. **Pros** - Instant setup - Affordable - Massive doors **Cons** - Not great in bad weather or cold - No porch or vestibule **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004E4ERHA/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B004E4ERHA&linkId=fdb103c19999a33936b518bae58364ae)** --- ## Tips for Choosing a 6P Family Tent ### Be Realistic about How Much Room You Will Have A 6P tent can still be very cramped inside. You won’t be able to fit queen-sized air mattresses inside, and even cots might be tricky to fit. Even if they do fit, you won’t have much room for anything else. The vestibules on a lot of 6P tents (especially cabin tents) are very small, so you will have limited gear storage too. As always, make sure you actually set up the tent in your yard before going camping with it. This will give you a realistic idea of how much gear you can fit in the tent. You might need to get a [kitchen tent](https://momgoescamping.com/best-kitchen-tents-camping/) or screen house to hang out in if there will be mosquitoes or bad weather. ![6p tent plus hangout space](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/6p-tent-plus-hangout-space.jpg)A screen house gives you somewhere to cook and hang out so you aren’t cramped in the tent during bad weather. ### Do You Need to Walk Around in the Tent? When tents list their height, they are referencing the *peak height* — not the height of the tent throughout. With dome and tunnel tents, the height can be much lower on the sides than the center. It will not be comfortable to walk around in them. If you are tall or want to stand in the tent, a cabin tent is probably the best choice. ![coleman instant 6p tent set up](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/coleman-instant-tent-1.jpg)Cabin tents like the Coleman Instant 6P tent have the most headroom ### Do You Need Multiple Rooms? Most 6P tents only have one room. There are some exceptions though, like the REI Kingdom 6P which has a divider to create two rooms. If you really need privacy in the family tent, you’ll probably need to get an 8P tent as these are more likely to have multiple rooms. ## 6 Person Tents FAQ ### Is a 6 person tent big enough for a family of 4? Yes, a 6-person tent gives a family of 4 comfortable room for sleeping pads plus gear. If you’re using air mattresses instead of pads, the extra rated capacity gets used up fast, so consider sizing up if you want real breathing room. ### What’s the fastest 6-person tent to set up? The Coleman Skylodge sets up in about a minute thanks to pre-attached telescoping poles, making it the fastest tent in this roundup. The Coleman Instant Cabin and Coleman Dark Room are also quick since both have pre-attached poles, just slightly less streamlined than the Skylodge’s design. ### Should I get a dome, cabin, or tunnel tent? Cabin tents give you the most headroom and vertical walls, making them best if you want to stand and move around inside. Dome tents handle wind and bad weather better because of their shape. Tunnel tents like the REI Wonderland offer the most floor space and multi-room layouts but need more careful staking since they aren’t as inherently stable. *Image credits: “Campsite” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [Eric F Savage](https://www.flickr.com/people/efsavage/), “Hot Springs River Fest 2011” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [miggiddymatt](https://www.flickr.com/people/miggiddymatt/)* ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** tents --- ### [Snake Safety Rules & What to Do If You See a Snake](https://momgoescamping.com/what-to-do-if-you-see-a-snake/) **Published:** May 25, 2016 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I’ll admit it – I’m one of those weird moms who actually *likes* snakes. While other parents are shrieking and pulling their kids away, I’m the one pointing out how cool it is that they can swim on top of water (seriously, have you seen that?). But here’s the thing: whether you love them or fear them, knowing what to do when you encounter a snake while camping can be the difference between a great story and a trip to the emergency room. After years of camping with my daughters and encountering dozens of snakes on trails, I’ve learned that most snake fears come from simply not knowing what to do. Once you understand snake behavior and have a clear action plan, that paralyzing panic transforms into calm confidence. So let’s dive into exactly what you need to know to keep your family safe. ## Why Snake Safety Matters (But Not Why You Think) Here’s something that might surprise you: **you’re more likely to be injured by a cow than bitten by a snake**. Snake bites are incredibly rare, and when they do happen, it’s usually because someone tried to kill the snake or accidentally startled it. In fact, research shows that most snake bites occur when people are trying to handle or harm the snake. But that doesn’t mean we should be careless. Snakes play a vital role in our ecosystems – they control rodent populations, which in turn helps reduce tick-borne diseases like Lyme disease (something I unfortunately know firsthand). Understanding how to coexist safely with snakes isn’t just about protecting ourselves; it’s about respecting these important creatures. Fun fact: There’s actually research suggesting that fear of snakes is [hardwired in our DNA](https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2017/10/infant-fear-phobia-science-snakes-video-spd/). So if you’re afraid of snakes, you’re not being irrational – you’re being human! #### Heading out soon? My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup, print them before you go. **[Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** ## Essential Snake Safety Rules for Camping Families Before each camping trip, I sit down with my daughters and review these rules. Yes, every single time. Because repetition builds habits, and habits keep us safe: ### The “Look Before You…” Rules - **Look where you hike.** This sounds obvious, but how often do we walk while looking at the scenery or checking our phones? Train yourself and your kids to scan the trail ahead, especially in the morning when snakes are warming up on sunny spots. - **Look before you sit.** That perfect log for a snack break? Check around its edges for protruding tails. Tap it with a [hiking pole](https://www.amazon.com/Black-Diamond-Trail-Trekking-Pole/dp/B00GA6110Q?tag=momgoescampin-20) first – if there’s a snake underneath, it’ll likely slither away. - **Look inside your boots.** Every. Single. Morning. While finding a snake in your boot is rare, spiders and scorpions are much more common visitors. Make it a camping ritual. ### The “Stay Smart” Rules - **Stay on marked trails.** Snakes prefer areas with cover where they can hide. Trails are typically clear and give you better visibility. If you must venture off-trail, wear boots and consider [snake gaiters](https://www.amazon.com/Pike-Trail-Gaiters-Guards-Protection/dp/B09BDJ7KPV?tag=momgoescampin-20) in high-risk areas. - **Don’t lift big rocks or logs.** This is especially hard for curious kids who love exploring. Snakes love these hiding spots because they provide shelter and attract prey. If you need to move something, use a long stick and stand back. - **Be cautious gathering firewood.** Woodpiles are snake magnets. Move slowly, use gloves, and pick up sticks one at a time rather than grabbing armfuls. I’ve found more snakes in woodpiles than anywhere else! *Pro Mom Tip: Make these rules into a fun camping song or chant. My girls still sing our “Snake Safety Song” even though they’re older now!* ![Venomous viper snake coiled on ground](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/venomous-viper-snake.jpg) ## Know Your Local Snakes (Knowledge = Power) Here’s where a little homework pays off big time. Before camping in a new area, spend 10 minutes researching: - Which venomous snakes (if any) live in the region - What they look like and their typical habitats - Peak activity times (most snakes are more active at dawn and dusk) I’ve literally gone swimming in lakes with water snakes because I knew they were harmless. But I’ve also relocated my entire campsite after spotting a venomous viper too close for comfort. Knowledge gives you the power to make smart decisions rather than fear-based ones. Remember: **most snakes are harmless and more afraid of you than you are of them.** In North America, we only have four types of venomous snakes: rattlesnakes, copperheads, cottonmouths (water moccasins), and coral snakes. Many areas have none at all! ![Harmless snake on trail](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/harmless-snake.jpg) ## What to Do If You See a Snake: Your Step-by-Step Action Plan This is the moment of truth. You’re hiking with your family, and there it is – a snake on the trail. Here’s exactly what to do: ### Step 1: FREEZE (Don’t Run!) Your instinct will scream “RUN!” but this is the worst thing you can do. Here’s why: - Snakes have terrible eyesight but excellent vibration detection - Sudden movement = threat in snake language - A startled snake is a defensive snake **Instead: STOP and STAY STILL.** Take a deep breath. Most of the time, the snake will slither away on its own once it realizes you’re not a threat. ### Step 2: Assess the Situation While staying still, quickly determine: - How far away is the snake? (You want at least 6 feet) - Is it moving or stationary? - Is it in a defensive posture (coiled, head raised)? If the snake is coming toward you, it probably hasn’t detected you yet (remember that terrible eyesight?). Try gently stomping the ground – the vibrations will alert it to your presence, and it will likely change direction. ### Step 3: Back Away Slowly If the snake isn’t leaving: - Take slow, smooth steps backward - Avoid sudden movements or arm waving - Keep your eyes on the snake but don’t stare directly at it - Continue until you’re at least 6-10 feet away ### Step 4: Go Around (With a Wide Berth) Need to pass? Give the snake PLENTY of room. Here’s the crucial detail many people don’t know: **Striking distance varies by species:** - Most snakes can strike up to 1/2 their body length - Some species can strike 2/3 their length - A coiled snake appears much shorter than it actually is *My rule: Estimate the snake’s length, double it, then add another few feet for safety.* Want to know more about snake body language? Check out my detailed guide on [how to tell if a snake is about to strike](https://momgoescamping.com/tell-snake-about-to-strike/). ![Western diamondback rattlesnake in defensive position](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Western-diamondback-rattlesnake.jpg) ### Step 5: Warn Others If you encounter a venomous snake on a popular trail: - Calmly alert other hikers you meet - Be specific about the location (“large rattlesnake on the left side of the trail about 100 yards past the creek crossing”) - Consider reporting it to camp hosts or rangers - Never try to move or scare off the snake yourself ## Special Situations: When Standard Advice Doesn’t Apply ### Snake at Your Campsite If a snake is in your camping area, especially near your tent: - Keep everyone (especially kids and pets) at a safe distance - Make noise from afar – often this encourages them to leave - If it’s venomous and won’t leave, consider relocating your camp - Never try to kill or capture it ### Snake in Your Tent (Yes, It Happens!) - Exit calmly if possible - Leave the tent door open - The snake will usually leave on its own - If it doesn’t, seek help from camp staff ### Swimming and Water Snakes Many snakes can swim, but most are harmless water snakes. Cottonmouths (water moccasins) are the only venomous water snake in North America. If you see a snake while swimming: - Move away calmly without splashing excessively - Exit the water if possible - Remember: snakes can’t bite effectively while swimming ## Teaching Kids About Snake Safety As a mom, I know the challenge of balancing safety education without creating fear. Here’s what works: ### For Young Kids (3-7 years) - Keep it simple: “If you see a snake, freeze like a statue and call for Mom/Dad” - Practice “snake drills” making it a fun game - Read age-appropriate books about snakes to build familiarity - Praise them when they follow safety rules ### For Older Kids (8+) - Teach them to identify venomous vs. non-venomous snakes in your area - Explain snake behavior and why they’re important to ecosystems - Let them be the “snake safety leader” for younger siblings - Consider visiting a nature center to safely observe snakes ## When Things Go Wrong: Emergency Preparedness While snake bites are rare, being prepared is smart: - Know the location of the nearest hospital - Have a first aid kit with [compression bandages](https://www.amazon.com/Israeli-Dressing-First-Aid-Compression/dp/B003DPVERM?tag=momgoescampin-20) - Keep your phone charged for emergencies - Consider a [satellite communicator](https://www.amazon.com/Garmin-Lightweight-Satellite-Communicator-Handheld/dp/B09PSSSFPF?tag=momgoescampin-20) like the Garmin inReach Mini 2 for remote camping - Know basic snake bite first aid (see my [complete guide here](https://momgoescamping.com/snake-bite-first-aid/)) **Important: Never use outdated treatments like tourniquets, ice, or trying to suck out venom. These can cause more harm than good!** ## My Personal Snake Encounters (And What I Learned) Over the years, I’ve had numerous snake encounters that have taught me valuable lessons: **The Woodpile Surprise:** Found a rat snake while gathering firewood. Taught me to always wear gloves and move slowly through wood. **The Trail Rattler:** Encountered a rattlesnake sunning on a trail in California. Its warning rattle gave us plenty of time to safely detour. Lesson: Listen for nature’s warnings! **The Campsite Visitor:** Woke up to a harmless king snake investigating our camp kitchen. We watched from a distance as it hunted mice. Lesson: Secure your food to avoid attracting rodents (and their predators). Each encounter reinforced that snakes aren’t out to get us – they’re just trying to survive, same as any wildlife. ## Final Thoughts: Respect, Don’t Fear After years of camping with my family and countless snake encounters, here’s what I want you to remember: Snakes aren’t the enemy. They’re not lurking in wait to attack you. They’re fascinating creatures that play a vital role in keeping our outdoor spaces healthy and balanced. The vast majority of snakes you might encounter are harmless, and even venomous ones want nothing to do with you. By teaching our kids (and ourselves) proper snake safety, we’re not just preventing accidents – we’re fostering a healthy respect for nature. Every time my daughters spot a snake now, instead of screaming in fear, they calmly follow our safety protocols and often end up watching in fascination as the snake goes about its day. So next time you’re packing for a camping trip, take a few minutes to review these safety rules with your family. Practice your “snake freeze” game. Look up the snakes in your destination area. Because the best outdoor adventures happen when we’re prepared, confident, and respectful of the amazing wildlife we’re privileged to share these spaces with. Stay safe, stay curious, and happy camping! *Have you had any snake encounters while camping? I’d love to hear your stories and any additional safety tips in the comments below!* **Want more camping safety tips? Check out these related posts:** - [How to Tell if a Snake Is About to Strike](https://momgoescamping.com/tell-snake-about-to-strike/) - [Snake Bite First Aid: What You Need to Know](https://momgoescamping.com/snake-bite-first-aid/) - [Best Tick Removal Tools for Families](https://momgoescamping.com/tick-removal-tools-humans/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety **Tags:** snakes --- ### [Backpacking Meal Plan Examples (with Calorie Counts)](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-meal-plans/) **Published:** October 14, 2025 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Planning meals for a backpacking trip doesn’t have to be overwhelming. After years of trial and error on the trail with my family, I’ve learned that taking time to create a proper meal plan is one of the smartest things you can do before heading into the backcountry. A well-thought-out meal plan ensures you have enough fuel to power through long hiking days without carrying unnecessary weight. It also prevents food waste. I can’t tell you how many times early in my backpacking journey I had to deal with leftover dinner because I didn’t portion things correctly. In this guide, I’ll walk you through exactly how I create meal plans for my backpacking trips, complete with real examples from my own adventures. Yes, there’s a bit of work involved upfront, but I promise it gets so much easier with each trip. **Also read:** [What to Eat When Backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-food/) ## Step 1: Calculate Your Daily Calorie Needs The most accurate way to plan backpacking food is by counting calories. I know it sounds tedious, but this method has saved me from both running out of food and lugging around way too much. For a typical 3-season backpacking trip, most adults need between 2,500 and 3,500 calories per day. However, your specific needs depend on several factors: - Your body weight and metabolism - The intensity of your hiking (elevation gain, mileage, terrain difficulty) - Weather conditions (you burn more calories in cold weather) - Pack weight As a smaller woman, I typically need around 2,100-2,200 calories per day on moderate hikes, while my larger male hiking partners often need 2,800-3,000+ calories. Your body knows best, so pay attention to your hunger levels on your first few trips and adjust accordingly. **For more detailed guidance:** [How Much Food to Bring Backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/how-much-food-bring-backpacking-calculator/) ## Step 2: Divide Calories Across Your Meals Once you know your daily calorie target, break it down by meal. Over the years, I’ve found these percentages work well as a starting point: - **Breakfast:** 20-25% of total calories - **Lunch:** 15% of total calories - **Dinner:** 20-25% of total calories - **Snacks:** 35% of total calories (or 50-55% if you skip a formal lunch) That said, everyone’s eating style on the trail is different. Some backpackers barely eat breakfast but snack constantly throughout the day. Others (like me) sometimes forget to snack while hiking and prefer more substantial meals at camp. The beauty of creating your own meal plan is that you can customize it to match your personal hiking rhythm. After a couple of trips, you’ll discover what works best for your body and hiking style. ## Step 3: Create Your Meal Plan Spreadsheet Here’s where the real planning begins. I create a simple spreadsheet that lists everything I’ll eat each day, along with the calorie count for each item. ### What You’ll Need: - A kitchen scale (this is essential!) - A spreadsheet or even just paper and pen - Nutrition labels from packaged foods - Internet access to look up calories in whole foods ### My Process for Tallying Calories: If you’re using pre-packaged meals like instant oatmeal or freeze-dried dinners, this step is straightforward. Just check the nutrition label and calculate how many servings you need to hit your calorie target. For homemade meals, here’s what I do (using my breakfast as an example): 1. I measure out oats on my kitchen scale. Let’s say it reads 70 grams. 2. I search online for “calories in oats” to find that oats contain about 389 calories per 100g. 3. I do quick math: (70g ÷ 100g) × 389 = 272 calories. I write this down. 4. Next, I add dried fruit, maybe 30g of dried cranberries. I repeat the process: search for the calorie content, calculate based on weight, and add it to my running total. 5. I continue adding ingredients (nuts, chia seeds, powdered milk, etc.) until I reach my target calorie amount for breakfast. Yes, this takes time the first time you do it. But here’s the thing: once you’ve calculated the calories for a meal you like, you can reuse that same meal plan on future trips. I now have a collection of tried-and-true meals with all the nutrition data already calculated. ### Want a Shortcut? If measuring every ingredient sounds overwhelming, my camping bundle includes printable meal planning sheets plus 50+ calorie-dense dehydrator recipes already calculated for you, no math required. **[Get the bundle →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/Bundle)** ## Real Backpacking Meal Plan Examples Looking at actual meal plans helps more than theory ever could. Here are three real meal plans from my backpacking trips, showing different scenarios and calorie needs. ### Example 1: Two-Night Trip for Two People This plan was for a weekend backpacking trip with my hiking partner. He needed roughly 2,800 calories per day while I needed 2,200 calories. We focused on [calorie-dense foods](https://momgoescamping.com/calorie-dense-healthy-backpacking-foods/), averaging about 130 calories per ounce. **Total food weight:** 77 ounces (4.8 pounds) **Weight per person per day:** 1.2 pounds | Day | Meal | Food | Weight | Calories | |---|---|---|---|---| | Day 1 | Lunch | X (eaten in the car) | — | — | | Day 1 | Dinner | Backpacker’s Pantry Pad Thai (2 servings) | 9 oz | 1,170 | | Day 1 | Evening Snack | Trail mix | 6 oz | 780 | | Day 2 | Breakfast | Oatmeal with dried fruit and powdered milk | 8 oz | 1,040 | | Day 2 | Lunch | Tortillas with peanut butter, honey, and jerky | 10 oz | 1,300 | | Day 2 | Dinner | Dehydrated chili mac (2 servings) | 10 oz | 1,300 | | Day 2 | Snacks | Chocolate, nuts, dried mango | 12 oz | 1,560 | | Day 3 | Breakfast | Instant grits with olive oil and coffee | 10 oz | 1,300 | | Day 3 | Morning Snack | Energy bars and dried fruit (hiking out) | 12 oz | 1,560 | | Day 3 | Lunch | X (eaten in the car) | — | — | *Note: The “X” marks indicate meals we ate at home or in the car, either before hitting the trail or after returning. This is a great way to reduce pack weight since you don’t need to carry food for those meals.* ### Example 2: Three-Night Trip with My Daughter This meal plan was designed for a trip with my daughter. We packed around 4,000 calories per day total. I included some “luxury” items like marshmallows because part of the joy of backpacking with kids is making special memories around the campfire. **Total food weight:** 8.9 pounds **Calorie density:** 115 calories per ounce | Day | Meal | Food | Weight | Calories | |---|---|---|---|---| | Day 1 | Dinner | Dehydrated shepherd’s pie (family-size) | 18 oz | 2,070 | | Day 1 | Campfire Snack | S’mores (marshmallows, chocolate, graham crackers) | 8 oz | 920 | | Day 2 | Breakfast | Pancakes with syrup packets | 9 oz | 1,035 | | Day 2 | Lunch | PB&J tortillas, string cheese | 11 oz | 1,265 | | Day 2 | Dinner | Dehydrated beef stroganoff (2 servings) | 12 oz | 1,380 | | Day 2 | Snacks | Trail mix, fruit snacks, chocolate, nuts | 18 oz | 2,070 | | Day 3 | Breakfast | Oatmeal with brown sugar | 9 oz | 1,035 | | Day 3 | Lunch | Bagels with peanut butter, jerky | 11 oz | 1,265 | | Day 3 | Dinner | Dehydrated mac and cheese with veggies (2 servings) | 12 oz | 1,380 | | Day 3 | Snacks | Granola bars, dried fruit, marshmallows, nuts | 18 oz | 2,070 | | Day 4 | Breakfast | Instant oatmeal packets | 10 oz | 1,150 | | Day 4 | Morning Snack | Granola bars (hiking out) | 6 oz | 690 | This plan would also work well for one larger person doing strenuous hiking, since the daily calorie total is approximately 4,000. ### Example 3: Three-Night Solo Trip This was a last-minute solo trip during warm weather with relatively easy hiking. I’m fairly small and wasn’t doing intense elevation gain, so I only needed about 2,100 calories per day. **Total food weight:** 4.4 pounds **Calorie density:** About 85 calories per ounce | Day | Meal | Food | Weight | Calories | |---|---|---|---|---| | Day 1 | Dinner | Ramen with dehydrated veggies and cheese | 8 oz | 680 | | Day 2 | Breakfast | Granola with powdered milk | 6 oz | 510 | | Day 2 | Lunch | Tortillas with dehydrated hummus, dried tomatoes | 8 oz | 680 | | Day 2 | Dinner | Dehydrated pasta primavera | 9 oz | 765 | | Day 2 | Snacks | Dried mushrooms, jerky, nuts | 8 oz | 680 | | Day 3 | Breakfast | Instant oatmeal | 6 oz | 510 | | Day 3 | Lunch | Crackers, dried tomatoes, tuna packet | 7 oz | 595 | | Day 3 | Dinner | Dehydrated lentil soup | 8 oz | 680 | | Day 3 | Snacks | Dried fruit, nuts | 7 oz | 595 | | Day 4 | Breakfast | Granola bar (hiking out) | 3 oz | 255 | Full disclosure: The calorie density on this trip wasn’t great. It was an impromptu adventure, so I didn’t have time to dehydrate everything properly. I also included foods like dried tomatoes and mushrooms that don’t pack many calories per ounce, but they added so much flavor that they were worth the extra weight for me. ## Tips I’ve Learned from Years of Meal Planning ### Prioritize Calorie Density The more calories packed into each ounce of food, the lighter your pack will be. Aim for at least 100-120 calories per ounce when possible. Foods like nuts, nut butters, olive oil, dried fruit, and chocolate are your friends. Check out my full guide to [calorie-dense backpacking foods that are actually healthy](https://momgoescamping.com/calorie-dense-healthy-backpacking-foods/) for more ideas. ### Pre-portion Everything Before your trip, measure out each meal and pack it in its own labeled ziplock bag. This makes meal prep on the trail simple and ensures you’re sticking to your calorie plan. I have [detailed tips for pre-packing meals](https://momgoescamping.com/tips-planning-backpacking-meals/) that make this process easier. ### Test Meals at Home First There’s nothing worse than discovering you hate a meal when you’re already on day two of a five-day trip. I always taste-test new recipes at home before committing them to a meal plan. ### Bring One Extra Emergency Meal Despite careful planning, unexpected things happen. Maybe you burn more calories than anticipated, or maybe weather delays your exit by a day. I always pack one extra lightweight meal (usually instant ramen or a freeze-dried dinner) just in case. ### Consider Meal Timing and Cooking Methods Think about when you’ll actually eat each meal. Will you have time for a hot breakfast, or should you plan for something you can eat quickly while breaking down camp? Do you prefer a hot lunch or will you eat on the go? Some backpackers even use [cold-soaking methods](https://momgoescamping.com/cold-soak-backpacking-meals/) to prepare meals without carrying a stove. Align your meal plan with your hiking style. ## Meal Ideas to Get You Started Not sure what specific meals to include in your plan? I’ve got you covered with tons of options: - [29 lightweight backpacking meal ideas](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-meal-ideas/) including no-cook and cold-soak options - [Easy meals made from supermarket foods](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-supermarket-foods/) that don’t require special equipment - [DIY freeze-dried meals](https://momgoescamping.com/diy-freeze-dried-backpacking-mealss/) assembled from bulk ingredients If you’re willing to invest in a dehydrator, you can create custom meals that are lighter, tastier, and cheaper than store-bought options. Learn more about [how to make your own dehydrated backpacking meals](https://momgoescamping.com/diy-dehydrated-backpacking-meals/). ## What About Dehydrating Your Own Meals? If you want to take your backpacking food to the next level, I highly recommend getting a dehydrator. It’s been one of my best gear investments. With a dehydrator, you can create custom meals that are lighter, tastier, and cheaper than store-bought options. I’ve spent years perfecting dehydrator recipes and meal planning strategies. If you’re interested in learning more, I put everything I know into an ebook with over 50 recipes and detailed meal planning advice. #### Want the full recipe collection and printable meal planning sheets? My camping bundle includes 50+ calorie-dense dehydrator recipes plus printable cheat sheets for packing and meal planning your next trip. **[Get the bundle →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/Bundle)** ## Final Thoughts on Backpacking Meal Planning I’ll be honest: creating your first backpacking meal plan feels like a lot of work. You’ll be weighing ingredients, searching calorie counts, and second-guessing whether you’re bringing enough food. But here’s what I’ve discovered after dozens of trips: the planning gets faster each time, and the payoff is huge. You’ll hike stronger because you’re properly fueled. Your pack will be lighter because you’re not carrying “just in case” food. And you’ll actually enjoy your meals instead of choking down whatever random snacks you threw in your pack. Start simple. Use one of my example meal plans as a template. Try my free meal planner tool. Most importantly, pay attention to how your body feels on the trail and adjust your plan for next time. Happy trails, and may your meals be delicious and your pack be light! #### Ready to plan your next trip? Get my full camping bundle: 50+ dehydrator recipes plus printable cheat sheets for packing and meal planning. **[Get the bundle →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/Bundle)** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Food --- ### [Best Rain Jackets for Kids 2026: Fleece-Lined and Unlined Picks](https://momgoescamping.com/best-rain-jackets-kids/) **Published:** October 23, 2025 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Want your kids to get outside, even when the weather is bad? After years of [camping trips](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-with-toddler/) and hiking with my daughters in everything from drizzle to downpours, I’ve learned that a good rain jacket is non-negotiable. Not all kids’ rain jackets are created equal some leave your child soaked and miserable within minutes, while others can handle serious weather and still keep them comfortable. I’ve spent countless hours researching waterproof ratings, testing breathability on actual hikes, and watching my kids jump in puddles (for science, obviously). I’ve also dealt with the reality of kids outgrowing jackets mid-season, hoods that won’t stay on, and jackets that turn into portable saunas. This guide comes from real experience both the successes and the expensive mistakes. In this guide, I’m sharing the rain jackets that have actually performed well for us and other outdoor families I know. I’ve narrowed down the options by waterproof rating, breathability, durability, and features like adjustable hoods. Oh, and cute designs too because your kids will have more fun splashing in puddles if they’re wearing something they actually like. **Also read:** [Best Rain Pants for Kids](https://momgoescamping.com/best-kids-rain-pants/) ## Quick Picks: My Top Recommendations **Best Overall:** [Therm Kids Splash Magic](https://collabs.shop/srjdr1) **Why?** A cool pattern appears when the jacket gets wet! They’re also well-made, eco-friendly, and from a cool small brand. These have survived an entire season with my active 7-year-old without any wear issues. *\*Use code CAMPINGWITHMOM to get 10% off your order!* **Best for Really Little Kids:** [Jan & Jul Rain Jacket](https://amzn.to/4nHwmiG) **Why?** The designs are insanely cute, and the big snaps are perfect for toddlers who can’t manage zippers yet. My younger daughter could put this on herself at age 3. **Best for Very Active Kids/Outdoor Sports:** [Marmot Precip Eco Youth Jacket](https://amzn.to/4dwohsq) **Why?** The breathability on this is incredible my daughter wore it for a three-hour hike in light rain and didn’t get that clammy, sweaty feeling. Yes, it’s pricey, but if your kid does outdoor activities regularly, it’s worth it. **Budget Pick:** [Playshoes Rain Jacket](https://amzn.to/3PKKhrw) **Why?** The fabric isn’t breathable, but it’s durable and truly waterproof. Great if your kid is rough on clothes or you’re not sure they’ll wear it enough to justify a bigger investment **Best Fleece-Lined:** [Jan & Jul Fleece-Lined Rain Jacket](https://amzn.to/4djqNmY)  the warmest lined option reviewed here, with 10,000mm waterproofing and an adjustable hood that actually stays on.. ## How I Chose These Rain Jackets I didn’t just read product descriptions and call it a day. Over the past five years of camping, hiking, and general kid-wrangling in questionable weather, I’ve personally used or tested most of these jackets with my own kids. For the ones I haven’t used directly, I’ve researched extensively and consulted with other outdoor parents I trust. My evaluation process includes: - **Real-world testing:** How do they perform in actual rain, not just a quick backyard test? - **Technical specs:** Waterproof ratings, breathability measurements, and construction quality - **Durability checks:** Do they survive a season of kid abuse? - **Practical features:** Can a 5-year-old actually use the zipper? Does the hood stay on when they run? - **Value assessment:** Is the price reasonable for what you get? I’m transparent about which jackets my kids have personally used (I’ll note that in each review) versus which ones I’ve researched based on specs and trusted reviews. If you’re planning outdoor adventures, don’t forget to check out our complete [kids’ hiking gear checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/gear-hiking-with-kids/) too. ## What to Look for in Kids’ Rain Jackets: A Parent’s Guide Before you buy a rain jacket for your kid, here’s what actually matters learned through trial and error (and a few returns). ### Unlined or Lined Jacket? Kids’ rain jackets will either be unlined or have a fabric lining, and this choice affects everything. **Unlined jackets** are more versatile. Your kid can wear the jacket in cold weather with lots of layers underneath. By the time summer comes along (and they’ve grown a bit), they can wear the same rain jacket without any layers. The downside? Unlined rain jackets feel terrible against bare skin. Your child will need to wear long sleeves underneath, which can be a hassle when you’re trying to get out the door. **Lined jackets** mean your child doesn’t need an extra layer underneath. That’s one less thing you have to wrestle onto your kid a huge win on busy mornings. If you live somewhere cold and rainy (like we did in the Pacific Northwest), a lined rain jacket makes life easier. The trade-off is less versatility as your child grows and the weather changes. **My take:** For toddlers and preschoolers, go lined it’s just easier. For older kids who can layer themselves, unlined gives you more mileage. (Learn more about [the 3-layer clothing system for outdoor activities](https://momgoescamping.com/3-layers-clothing-system/).) ### Understanding Waterproof Ratings The waterproofness of a material is measured with the [Hydrostatic Head test](https://www.sgs.co.uk/en-gb/news/2019/12/the-background-to-rain-resistance-in-clothing-and-other-textiles) and listed in millimeters. The higher the rating, the more waterproof the material is. Here’s what the numbers actually mean in real-world use: - **1,000mm:** This is water-resistant, not waterproof. Fine for light drizzle, but your kid will get wet in real rain. - **2,000mm:** Waterproof for light to moderate rain, but if your kid presses against something wet or sits on wet ground, water can seep through. - **5,000mm:** Good waterproofing that handles moderate to heavy rain without issues. - **10,000mm:** Very high waterproof rating. Water won’t leak through even during downpours or when your kid decides to lay down in a puddle (yes, this happens). **My recommendation:** For occasional light rain, 2,000mm is fine. For kids who actually play outside in the rain or if you do outdoor activities, aim for at least 5,000mm. ### Why Breathability Matters (More Than You’d Think) Here’s something I learned the hard way: if the fabric isn’t breathable, your child will get sweaty, and they’ll end up wet from the inside out. This is especially true for active kids on [hiking adventures](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-packing-list/). Unfortunately, waterproofness and breathability usually have an inverse relationship the more waterproof a material is, the less breathable it typically is. However, some brands (like Marmot) have developed fabrics that block water while allowing vapor to pass through. Breathability is measured with a Moisture Vapor Permeability (MVP) test and listed in grams per square meter (g/m²): - **2,000g/m²:** Decent breathability for a fully waterproof jacket - **5,000g/m²:** Good breathability better for active kids - **10,000g/m² and above:** Excellent breathability, ideal for sports and high-activity situations Unfortunately, most kids’ rain jacket brands don’t list breathability ratings, which is frustrating. I’ve noted it in my reviews when it is available. ### Taped Seams: Not Optional Even with waterproof fabric, water can leak through the seams if they aren’t properly sealed. Quality rain jackets use taped or sealed seams to prevent this. Almost all kids’ rain jackets even cheaper ones have taped seams nowadays. However, some don’t. For example, I initially considered the Columbia kids’ rain jacket but eliminated it because the seams aren’t fully taped. ### Hood Features That Actually Work Getting a rain jacket hood to stay on a kid’s head is like trying to keep socks on a toddler surprisingly difficult. The hood is either too small (funneling water directly into their eyes) or too large (blocking their view entirely). Look for these features: - **A substantial brim:** Keeps rain off their face - **Elastic around the face opening:** Helps the hood stay in place - **Adjustment system on the back:** Usually a toggle or drawstring From experience, hoods with at least two of these features are far more likely to actually stay on your child’s head. ### Design Matters More Than You’d Think If it were up to me, I’d choose the most practical rain gear every time. But kids have opinions. My older daughter once spent an entire season moping because her rain jacket was “too dorky” and refused to wear it. That’s a lot of money wasted. The good news? There are now tons of designs to choose from from cute character prints for little kids to sleeker, more “mature” designs for older children. Let your kid have some input on the design; they’ll be more likely to actually wear it. ### Snaps vs. Zippers If your child is little and can’t manage zippers yet, look for rain jackets with snaps. They’re much easier for small hands. For older kids, zippers are more weather-tight and tend to be more durable. ## The Best Rain Jackets for Kids (Tested and Reviewed) ### 1. Therm Kids Splash Magic Rain Jacket **Why Choose It:** A fun pattern appears when it gets wet, plus it’s exceptionally well-made with eco-friendly materials [![therm kids rain jacket](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/therm-kids-rain-jacket.jpg "therm kids rain jacket - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/therm-kids-rain-jacket.jpg) **My Experience:** This is my current favorite brand for kids’ rain gear, and we’ve been using their jackets for two years now. Therm is owned by a mom who clearly understands what makes quality kids’ gear. The Splash Magic jacket is their standout product when it gets wet, a cool hidden pattern appears, which my kids think is magic. But it’s not just a gimmick. The construction quality is excellent. The seams are both taped and reinforced, which means this jacket actually survives rough play. My 7-year-old has worn hers for countless puddle-jumping sessions, muddy hikes, and even some light scrambling over rocks, and it still looks almost new. Based on the quality, I fully expect this to get passed down to my younger daughter. Inside, there’s a soft microfleece lining that makes it comfortable to wear and adds a bit of warmth. The lining extends into the pockets, so cold hands have a warm place to go. There are also thumbholes in the cuffs a small detail that makes a big difference on chilly, rainy days. My only complaint is that the hood isn’t adjustable. It does have elastic, though, so it stays in place better than many hoods I’ve tried. **Features:** - **Sizes:** 12 months to 14 years - **Waterproof rating:** 5,000mm (handles moderate to heavy rain) - **Breathability:** Not listed by manufacturer - **Lining:** Soft microfleece - **Taped and reinforced seams** - **100% recycled materials** - **3 zippered pockets** - **Thumbholes in cuffs** - **Elasticized hood and cuffs** **Get It [Here at Therm Kids](https://collabs.shop/srjdr1)** **\*\*Use code CAMPINGWITHMOM at the Therm website to get 10% off your order!\*\*** --- ### 2. [Jan & Jul Kids Rain Jackets](https://amzn.to/4dy64dQ) **Why Choose It:** Super cute designs, excellent waterproofing, hood that actually stays on, and snaps for little kids [![jan jul rain jacket for kids](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/jan-jul-rain-jacket-for-kids.jpg "jan jul rain jacket for kids - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/jan-jul-rain-jacket-for-kids.jpg) **My Research:** Jan & Jul makes quality outerwear for kids, and their rain jackets are consistently well-reviewed by other outdoor parents. They offer two versions: one with a thin polyester lining and a warmer fleece-lined option. What stands out about these jackets is the impressive waterproof rating of 10,000mm combined with a breathability of 5,000g/m² that’s a rare combination. The seams are fully sealed, so water truly won’t get through. The hood design is particularly clever. It’s both adjustable and elasticized, which means it will actually stay on your child’s head a feature that seems simple but is surprisingly rare. The cuffs are also elasticized for a good fit that keeps rain out. These jackets use snaps instead of zippers, including on the pockets, making them ideal for toddlers and preschoolers who haven’t mastered zippers yet. The designs are adorable without being babyish. *Note: If you have a baby under 12 months, check out our guide to [best baby rain suits](https://momgoescamping.com/baby-rain-suits/) instead.* **Features:** - **Sizes:** 1T to 16 years - **Waterproof rating:** 10,000mm (very high handles downpours) - **Breathability:** 5,000g/m² (good for active kids) - **Lining options:** Thin polyester or fleece-lined - **Fully taped seams** - **Adjustable, elasticized hood** - **Elastic wrist cuffs** - **Two front pockets with snaps** **Buy the [Unlined Version Here](https://amzn.to/49tesKH) and [Fleece-Lined Version Here](https://amzn.to/4djqNmY)** --- ### 3. [Marmot Precip Eco Youth Jacket](https://amzn.to/4vgSGlR) **Why Choose It:** Exceptionally breathable material means your kid won’t turn into a sweaty mess [![marmot eco precip kids rain jacket](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/marmot-kids-rain-jacket.jpg "marmot kids rain jacket - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/marmot-kids-rain-jacket.jpg) **My Experience:** This jacket isn’t cheap, but it’s the most feature-rich kids’ rain jacket I’ve found. We got one for my older daughter when she started getting serious about hiking, and the difference in breathability compared to her old jacket was immediately noticeable. After a three-hour hike in steady drizzle, she wasn’t clammy or uncomfortable something that had been a constant complaint with previous jackets. The secret is Marmot’s “NanoPro” fabric, which has a 2.5-layer construction. It boasts a waterproof rating of 10,000mm and here’s the impressive part a breathability of 17,000g/m². That level of breathability in truly waterproof gear is almost unheard of, especially for kids’ clothing. The features are also impressive: pit zippers for extra ventilation (great for active kids), a waterproof chin guard, and everything is adjustable hood, waistband, and cuffs. The hood rolls into the collar when not in use, which is handy. It’s the kind of jacket that grows with your kid through various outdoor activities. **Is it worth the price?** If your child does outdoor sports or activities regularly, absolutely. If you’re planning to go [backpacking with kids](https://momgoescamping.com/guide-backpacking-kids/), this jacket is an excellent investment. If they just need something for occasional rain, probably not. **Features:** - **Sizes:** 4 to 16 years - **Waterproof rating:** 10,000mm - **Breathability:** 17,000g/m² (exceptionally high) - **PU membrane lining** - **Pit zippers for ventilation** - **Waterproof chin guard** - **Fully taped seams** - **Adjustable hood that rolls into collar** - **Velcro cuffs and drawstring waist** - **Two front pockets** [**Get It Here**](https://amzn.to/4vgSGlR) --- ### 4. [OAKI Kids Rain Jacket](https://amzn.to/4uW5PAf) **Why Choose It:** Affordable yet durable and well-made [![oaki kids rain jacket](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/oaki-kids-rain-jacket.jpg "oaki kids rain jacket - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/oaki-kids-rain-jacket.jpg) **My Research:** OAKI is known for making hardcore kids’ rain gear the kind designed to survive serious outdoor play. This jacket is more affordable than many options here while still providing actual waterproof ratings, which is refreshing. The jacket has a waterproof rating of 5,000mm and breathability of 3,000g/m² solid specs for the price point. The construction quality is good, and other parents report these jackets lasting through multiple kids. The hood has a large brim to keep rain off your child’s face, though it lacks elastic or adjustment features. There’s also no elastic on the cuffs, which could allow water to drip in through the sleeves during heavy rain. OAKI offers two versions: one with a soft liner, snap closures, and cute designs (better for younger kids), and an unlined version with zippers and plain colors (better for older kids). **Features:** - **Sizes:** 2-11 years - **Waterproof rating:** 5,000mm - **Breathability:** 3,000g/m² - **Fully taped seams** - **Thin lining option** - **Two pockets** - **Lined or unlined versions available** - **Snap or zipper options** **Get the [Lined Jacket Here](https://amzn.to/4uW5PAf) and [Unlined Jacket Here](https://amzn.to/3R8vJm2)** --- ### 5. Hatley Printed Color-Changing Rain Jacket **Why Choose It:** Cute color-changing design with matching accessories available ![hatley kids color changing rain jacket](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/hatley-kids-rain-jackets.jpg "hatley kids rain jackets - Mom Goes Camping") **My Research:** Hatley makes another color-changing rain jacket option. When this one gets wet, the colors on the pattern change not quite as dramatic as the Therm pattern reveal, but still fun for kids. Note that not all Hatley rain jackets are color-changing, so make sure you select the right style. There’s a polyester terry-cloth lining that’s comfortable against the skin and adds a bit of warmth without being as heavy as fleece. The jacket is well-made and durable. However, it’s not quite as well-designed as the Therm jacket. The hood isn’t adjustable or elasticized, so it won’t stay on well during active play. It uses snap closures, making it better suited for younger children who can’t manage zippers yet. A nice bonus: Hatley offers matching pants and umbrellas, so if your kid wants a coordinated rain outfit, you can make that happen. **Features:** - **Sizes:** 2T to 10 years - **Waterproof rating:** Not listed by manufacturer - **Breathability:** Not listed by manufacturer - **Lining:** Soft polyester terry material - **Snap closures (good for little kids)** - **Matching boots and umbrellas available** - **Color-changing pattern when wet** **See the [Girls Designs Here](https://amzn.to/4nzallQ) and [Boys Here](https://amzn.to/4eVlzis)** --- ### 6. REI Kids and Toddler Rainwall Jacket **Why Choose It:** Packable, durable, and from a trusted outdoor brand ![rei kids rain jacket toddler](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/rei-kids-rain-jacket-toddler.jpg "rei kids rain jacket toddler - Mom Goes Camping") [![rei kids rain jacket older](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/rei-kids-rain-jacket-older.jpg "rei kids rain jacket older - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/rei-kids-rain-jacket-older.jpg) **My Experience:** This REI rain jacket is popular among outdoor families, and I can see why. It’s held up well in heavy rains during our camping trips, though REI frustratingly doesn’t list the waterproof or breathability ratings. Based on performance, it’s definitely more breathable than cheaper rain jackets. The hood is one of the best features it’s fully adjustable with hook-and-loop on the back and elastic on the front. It will actually stay on your child’s head, which is a major win. However, the “brim” on the hood is so small it’s basically non-existent, so rain can still drip onto their face. Note that the collar on the version for older kids is different (and better, in my opinion). It’s separate from the hood, so your child can zip up around their neck for warmth without having the hood up. While this is a solid rain jacket, it’s a bit overpriced compared to what other brands offer with similar or better specs. **Features:** - **Sizes:** 2T to 18 years - **Waterproof rating:** Not listed by manufacturer - **Breathability:** Not listed by manufacturer - **Fully taped seams** - **Adjustable hood and wrist cuffs** - **Two front pockets** - **Unlined** - **Packable** [**Get It Here at REI**](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F227851%2Frei-co-op-rainier-rain-jacket-kids) --- ### 7. [Mountain Warehouse Cannonball 3-in-1 Waterproof Jacket](https://amzn.to/4eQOynz) **Why Choose It:** Versatility and value for older kids [![mountain warehouse kids rain jacket](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/mountain-warehouse-kids-rain-jacket.jpg "mountain warehouse kids rain jacket - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/mountain-warehouse-kids-rain-jacket.jpg) **My Take:** If you have older kids who don’t really play in the rain anymore but need weather protection for school or casual outdoor activities, this is a smart choice. It’s a “3-in-1” system: a fleece jacket and a waterproof shell that fits over it. Your kid can wear the fleece alone, the shell alone, or both together for maximum warmth and weather protection. The waterproof rating is only 2,000mm, which is adequate for light to moderate rain. Just know that if your child leans against something wet or sits on wet ground, water could seep through. The breathability isn’t listed, but the fabric performs well in this regard. Mountain Warehouse makes quality clothing at reasonable prices. This jacket has nice details like a lined collar, a detachable hood, and four pockets total (three exterior, one interior). **Features:** - **Sizes:** 2T to 11 years - **Waterproof rating:** 2,000mm (adequate for light to moderate rain) - **Breathability:** Not listed by manufacturer - **Fully taped seams** - **Elastic hood and adjustable wrist cuffs** - **Detachable hood** - **Three exterior pockets and one interior pocket** - **Includes removable fleece jacket** [**Get It Here**](https://amzn.to/4eQOynz) --- ### 8. [Playshoes Rain Jacket](https://amzn.to/3RODsWo) **Why Choose It:** Affordable, durable, and truly waterproof ![playshoes basic rain jacket for kids](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/playshoes-basic-rain-jacket-for-kids.jpg "playshoes basic rain jacket for kids - Mom Goes Camping") **My Experience:** I’ve owned several Playshoes rain jackets and pants over the years. The fabric is thick and definitely durable these jackets can take a beating. They’re also 100% waterproof; water simply doesn’t get through. The big downside? Breathability. Or rather, the complete lack of it. Your child will get sweaty if they’re active in this jacket. It’s fine for standing at the bus stop or short periods of puddle jumping, but not ideal for extended outdoor play or hiking. The jacket itself is quite basic. There’s no brim on the hood (though it is elasticized), and depending on which version you get, there may not be elastic cuffs meaning water can drip in through the sleeves. Some versions have zippers while others have snaps. However, the price is right, and the quality is significantly better than other budget kids’ rain jackets. If you need something affordable that will actually keep your kid dry, this is it. **Features:** - **Sizes:** 9 months to 10 years - **Waterproof rating:** Not listed, but performs well in heavy rain - **Breathability:** Poor (not breathable) - **Fully taped seams** - **Detachable hood** - **Snap or zipper options depending on version** - **Big pockets** - **Velcro size adjustments on sides** [**Get It Here**](https://amzn.to/3RODsWo) ## Caring for Kids’ Rain Jackets: Making Them Last A quality rain jacket is an investment, and with proper care, it can last through multiple kids. Here’s what I’ve learned about maintaining waterproof gear over years of [family camping trips](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-checklist-family/): ### Washing - **Don’t wash too often.** Spot clean when possible. Excessive washing can break down waterproof coatings. - **When you do wash:** Use cold water on a gentle cycle. Skip the fabric softener it can damage waterproof membranes. - **Close all zippers and snaps** before washing to prevent damage. - **Use mild detergent** or specialized tech wash made for waterproof gear. ### Drying - **Air dry when possible,** hanging the jacket by the hood or shoulders. - **If using a dryer:** Low heat only. Some waterproof coatings actually benefit from the heat, which can help restore water repellency. - **Never dry clean** waterproof jackets the chemicals can ruin the waterproof coating. ### Restoring Water Repellency Over time, you’ll notice water soaking into the outer fabric instead of beading up and rolling off. This doesn’t mean the jacket isn’t waterproof anymore the waterproof membrane is underneath. But a wet outer layer makes the jacket heavier and less comfortable. To restore the water-repellent finish: 1. Wash the jacket thoroughly to remove dirt and oils. 2. Apply a DWR (Durable Water Repellent) treatment spray or wash-in product made for waterproof gear. 3. Put the jacket in the dryer on low heat or iron on low (check the care label first) to heat-activate the treatment. ### Storage - **Store clean and completely dry** to prevent mildew. - **Hang if possible** rather than stuffing in a bin. - **Keep in a cool, dry place** away from direct sunlight. ## When to Replace Your Child’s Rain Jacket Obviously, kids outgrow clothes. But beyond size, here are signs it’s time for a new rain jacket: - **Water leaking through seams:** If the taped seams are failing and water is getting through, it’s done. - **Delamination:** When the waterproof membrane starts separating from the outer fabric (looks like bubbling or peeling). - **Tears or holes:** Small punctures can sometimes be repaired with specialized patches, but large tears are usually not worth fixing. - **Broken zippers:** Zipper replacements are expensive and often not worth it for kids’ clothing. - **Lost water repellency that won’t restore:** If you’ve tried washing and retreating the DWR and water still soaks in immediately, the jacket may be worn out. ## Kids Rain Jackets Frequently Asked Questions: Do kids really need a special rain jacket, or will any waterproof jacket work? For occasional light rain, any waterproof jacket will probably suffice. But if your child spends time outdoors in the rain whether playing, hiking, or doing sports a properly designed rain jacket makes a huge difference. Key features like breathability, taped seams, and a functional hood turn “staying sort of dry and miserable” into “actually enjoying being outside.” What’s the difference between water-resistant and waterproof? Water-resistant means the fabric repels light moisture but will eventually let water through, especially under pressure or during extended exposure. Waterproof means water won’t penetrate the fabric, even in heavy rain or when pressed against wet surfaces. For kids who actually play outside in the rain, you want waterproof. How do I know if a rain jacket will fit my child? Check the size charts for each brand they vary significantly. Generally, you want room for layering underneath without the jacket being so large that the sleeves or hem get in the way. For the hood, it should fit snugly enough to stay on but not so tight that it’s uncomfortable. If you’re between sizes, consider how quickly your child is growing and how long you want the jacket to last. Can I put a rain jacket in the dryer? Most kids’ rain jackets can go in the dryer on low heat, but always check the care label first. Some waterproof coatings actually benefit from the heat, which can help restore water repellency. High heat, however, can damage the waterproof membrane. Why are some rain jackets so expensive? Price differences come down to fabric technology (higher waterproof and breathability ratings cost more), construction quality (better seam sealing, reinforced stress points), features (pit zips, adjustable everything), and brand reputation. For occasional use, a budget jacket is fine. For frequent outdoor activities, the investment in a quality jacket pays off in comfort and durability. What should my child wear under a rain jacket? For unlined jackets, your child needs at least a long-sleeve shirt to prevent the jacket from feeling clammy against their skin. For cold weather, add insulating layers like fleece or down underneath. For lined jackets, a t-shirt is usually sufficient unless it’s quite cold. Avoid cotton it stays wet and cold. Synthetic or merino wool layers are better choices. Learn more about [proper layering techniques](https://momgoescamping.com/3-layers-clothing-system/) and get tips for [hiking with kids in cold weather](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-baby-toddler-cold/). ## Final Thoughts: Choosing the Right Rain Jacket for Your Kid After years of testing rain jackets with my own kids and learning from both successes and (expensive) mistakes, here’s my bottom-line advice: **For most families,** the [Therm Kids Splash Magic](https://collabs.shop/srjdr1) offers the best combination of quality, features, fun design, and value. It’s well-made enough to last, has good waterproofing, and kids actually want to wear it. **If your child does outdoor sports or activities regularly,** invest in the [Marmot Precip Eco](https://amzn.to/3RMw65M). The breathability makes a real difference in their comfort level during extended wear. **For little kids,** the [Jan & Jul jacket](https://amzn.to/3PoFmMT) with its easy snaps and adorable designs is hard to beat. **On a tight budget?** The [Playshoes jacket](https://amzn.to/4uViTG8) will keep your kid dry without breaking the bank. Remember, the best rain jacket is the one your child will actually wear. Factor in their preferences on design and comfort a technically perfect jacket that stays in the closet isn’t helping anyone. **Planning a camping trip?** Don’t forget to check out our guides to [best kids sleeping bags](https://momgoescamping.com/best-kids-sleeping-bag/) and [kids hiking backpacks](https://momgoescamping.com/best-kids-hiking-backpacks/) to complete your outdoor gear setup. Have questions about kids’ rain jackets or want to share your own experiences? Leave a comment belowI’d love to hear what’s worked (or hasn’t) for your family! *Disclosure: This post contains affiliate links. If you purchase through these links, I may receive a small commission at no additional cost to you. I only recommend products I’ve personally used or thoroughly researched. All opinions are my own.* ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [Best Portable Baby Playpens for Outdoor Use](https://momgoescamping.com/best-portable-baby-playpens-for-outdoor-use/) **Published:** February 8, 2024 **Author:** Diane **Content:** You want to make sure your crawling baby spends as much time outdoors as possible. But you also don’t want to watch her EVERY SINGLE SECOND. A portable playpen makes this possible. Compared to the playpens of the past, there are now a lot of good ones which fold down quickly with one hand, don’t take up tons of space and are easy to clean. But, before you spend money on more baby gear, here’s what you need to know about baby playpens for outdoors – including whether you even need one. ## Do you even really need a playpen? A playpen can be a lifesaving piece of gear which keeps your baby safe while still allowing play. But, **if the playpen is too big and annoying to pack up, you probably won’t use it.** It will become one more piece of baby gear that you used once and now just sits taking up space in your home. ### When does a portable playpen actually make sense? - **You will be alone with your baby.** So you won’t have anyone to watch her if you need to do something like go to the bathroom. - **You have lots of outdoor tasks to do.** Like minding a BBQ, pitching a tent or helping an older child go to the bathroom. Then you can plop the baby in the playpen while you get these things done. - **You’ll be outdoors for extended periods of time.** So packing and setting up the playpen is worth the effort. - **You’ve got multiple small children.** Then, god yes, give yourself a break by putting them in the playpen! **Also read: [How to Go Camping with a Baby](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-with-baby/)** [![diy baby playard joke](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/diy-baby-playard-joke.jpg)](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/diy-baby-playard-joke.jpg) **Kudos to the parent who made this for their kid! I’ll stick to modern parental luxuries though 😀** **Heading out soon with your little one?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup — print them before you go. **[Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** ## Comparison | Playpen | Best For | Weight | Folded Size | Canopy | Floor | |---|---|---|---|---|---| | [Regalo My Play Deluxe](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GQ9HCQR?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | Best Overall | 13 lbs | 40x8x8″ | Full coverage, removable | Nylon | | [Baby Delight Go With Me Eclipse](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NX2VJF9?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | Runner Up | 12 lbs | 36.5x7x7″ | Removable, open section | Nylon, machine-washable | | [Summer Infant Pop ‘n Play SE](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PM26RT4?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | Sturdiest Option | 13 lbs | 39×8.5×8.5″ | Removable, zip door | Padded | | [POP ‘N GO](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C1TC5BF3?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | Best Bug Protection | 7 lbs | 36x8x8″ | Non-removable mesh + UV cover | Nylon | | [Graco Pack ‘n Play](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09MWJB3LF?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1) | Best for Cold Ground | 23 lbs | 28×10.3×10″ | None (add-on) | Padded, raised | ## Note: Portable Playpens and Cold Ground Most portable playpens or play yards only have a thin piece of fabric underneath them. The thin fabric provides zero insulation from the cold ground. This is fine if it is summertime, but sitting on the cold ground will suck the heat out of your baby. **You’ll need to:** - **Get a playpen which raises your baby off the ground.** Unfortunately, these are much heavier, bulkier and take more effort to set up. **OR** - **Line the playpen floor with foam pads.** A bunch of brands sell pads designed to fit in these hexagon playards, but that’s another thing to buy. And one more thing to pack up. You could also use thick blankets, but they get gross quickly when outdoors. [![Pack n Play for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/2819537185_829605e7db_z.jpg)](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/2819537185_829605e7db_z.jpg) **A Pack N Play type of playpen is the only way to keep your baby off the cold ground!** ## Using a Playpen at a Campsite Setting up a playpen at a campsite is different from setting one up in the backyard. A few things I’ve learned from actually doing this on real trips: - **Pick your spot before you pitch the tent.** Look for level, shaded ground away from the fire ring, cooking area, and any trip hazards like guylines or roots. Shade matters more than you’d think — a hex playpen in direct sun gets hot fast, even with a canopy. - **Stake it out if you’re anywhere windy.** Only some playpens (like the POP ‘N GO) have stake-out points, but if yours doesn’t, weigh down the corners with your gear bags. An empty playpen can genuinely blow over or slide in a gust. - **Beach and sand campsites need extra care.** The flexible panels handle sand fine, but stake it down — beach wind is stronger and more constant than most campsites. Also brace for sand getting into every seam and zipper; a quick shake-out before folding it up saves you from packing sand home. - **Inside a tent works, but check clearance.** Most 6-panel play yards fit inside a family-sized tent, but measure your tent’s floor dimensions first. If you’re using a Pack ‘n Play style playpen with legs, put something flat and sturdy underneath the feet — the legs can poke through a tent floor over a full trip. ## Baby Playpen for Outdoors FAQ What age can babies use an outdoor playpen? Most portable outdoor playpens are designed for babies from around 6 months (when they can sit independently) through to around 2–3 years old or until they can climb out. The hex-style play yards reviewed here are not suitable for newborns who can’t yet hold their heads up; for very young babies, a carrier or supervised blanket on the ground is more appropriate. Check the manufacturer’s weight and age limits for each specific model, as they vary significantly. Can you use a portable playpen on grass or uneven ground? Yes — most of the hex-style play yards reviewed here are designed for outdoor use on grass, sand, and slightly uneven ground. The flexible panels adjust to minor ground irregularities. What they don’t handle well is very rocky or heavily sloped terrain; on that kind of ground the panels can wobble and the base fabric doesn’t lie flat. The Pop N Go can be staked out for windy conditions, which is useful on the beach. On any surface, add foam mats or a thick blanket inside if the ground is cold — the thin nylon floors provide no insulation. Can I use a playpen on sand at the beach? Yes, the flexible-panel play yards work fine on sand, but stake them down if there’s any wind — beach wind is stronger and more constant than at most inland campsites, and an empty playpen can slide or tip. Expect sand to work its way into zippers and seams, so shake it out well before folding it up. Does a playpen fit inside a tent? Most 6-panel play yards (48-59″ wide) fit inside a family-sized tent, but measure your tent’s floor dimensions first since space adds up fast once sleeping pads or airbeds are in there too. If you’re using a leg-style playpen like the Graco Pack ‘n Play, put something flat under the feet — the legs can poke a hole through a tent floor over repeated use. How do I keep a playpen from blowing away in wind? Only some models, like the POP ‘N GO, have built-in stake-out points. For playpens without stakes, weigh down the base with gear bags, a cooler, or sandbags at each corner. Never leave a baby unattended in an unsecured playpen on a windy day. ## Best Portable Playpens for Outdoors **1** [![Regalo My Play Deluxe Play Yard](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/612Gk8O431L._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GQ9HCQR?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) **Best Overall** **[Regalo My Play Deluxe Play Yard](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GQ9HCQR?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1)** - **6 panels:** 48″ wide and 26″ tall (8 panel size also available) - **Weighs:** 13lbs - **Folded size:** 40x8x8″ - **Removable full-coverage canopy** - **Nylon bottom** **[Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GQ9HCQR?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1)** This play yard comes in two sizes. The larger 8-panel size is big enough for an adult to lay down inside too. The reason it gets the #1 pick is because of the canopy design. Unlike some other canopies, it actually offers full coverage. Insects won’t be able to get into the play area because the fabric extends all the way down. Half of the canopy is mesh and the other half is a UV fabric. This design means your child still gets decent ventilation even with the canopy on. The only real annoying thing is that the zipper door on the canopy is small and hard to unzip. The zipper jams because the fabric is so taut. You’ll probably need to completely remove the canopy to get your child in/out. **Pros** - Two sizes - Canopy keeps bugs out - Affordable - Quick setup **Cons** - Zipper on canopy jams - Bulky when collapsed --- **2** [![Baby Delight Go With Me Eclipse Play Yard](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51ZXG6nBnOL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NX2VJF9?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) **Runner Up** **[Baby Delight Go With Me Eclipse Play Yard](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NX2VJF9?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1)** - **6 panels:** 49″ wide and 28″ tall - **Weighs:** 12lbs - **Folded size:** 36.5x7x7″ - **Removable canopy** - **Machine-washable nylon bottom** **[Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NX2VJF9?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1)** Baby Delight makes a lot of cool outdoor gear for babies (I also like [their baby chairs](https://momgoescamping.com/the-only-baby-camping-chairs-worth-buying/)). Compared to the Regalo play yard above, theirs is slightly bigger but folds down a bit more compact. You’ll either love or hate the canopy design. It doesn’t have a door. Instead, one section is completely open. This does make it easier to get your baby in/out and improves ventilation, but also means there isn’t bug protection from the canopy. You’d have to throw a separate mosquito net over the entire play yard if mosquitoes are a concern. Note that this play yard is available in several colors. Avoid the dark colors! The dark canopy will cause the play yard to get hot inside. **Pros** - Good packability - Sturdy - Floor is removable and machine-washable **Cons** - No bug protection - Dark colored options get hot inside --- **3** [![Summer Infant Pop 'n Play SE Playard](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/414Rq4YavaL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PM26RT4?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) **Sturdiest Option** **[Summer Infant Pop ‘n Play SE Playard](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PM26RT4?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1)** - **6 panels:** 48″ wide and 26″ tall - **Weighs:** 13lbs - **Folded size:** 39×8.5×8.5″ - **Removable canopy** - **Padded bottom** **[Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PM26RT4?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1)** At first glance, the Summer Infant play yard seems almost identical to the Regalo. There are a couple key differences though. The main one is that the Summer Infant play yard is much sturdier. The seams are better sewn and the bottom sits flat on the floor, so there is less stress on the seams there (and thus less likely for them to tear). The downside is that it takes more effort to set up the Summer Infant play yard. Each of the 6 corners has a strap which you need to tighten individually. This only takes a total of 3 minutes to do, but it’s still more effort than the push-your-foot-lock that the Regalo and Baby Delight play yards have. As for the canopy, there is a zipper which goes down the middle so you can open the door. The door flaps can be held back for better ventilation with straps. The bottom of the play yard is slightly padded, though the padding really isn’t enough to provide insulation against cold ground. This extra padding means the play yard is bulkier when packed. **Pros** - Very sturdy construction - Padded bottom - Canopy door easy to open **Cons** - Canopy has gaps; no mosquito protection - More effort to set up - Bulky when closed --- **4** [![POP 'N GO Baby Playpen](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41UHJ7IaiZL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C1TC5BF3?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) **Best Bug Protection** **[POP ‘N GO Baby Playpen](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C1TC5BF3?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1)** - **6 panels:** 59″ wide and 48″ tall - **Weighs:** 7lbs - **Folded size:** 36x8x8″ - **Non-removable mesh canopy** - **UV cover for canopy** - **Nylon bottom** - **Crawl-in side door** **[Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C1TC5BF3?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1)** This playpen has a different construction than the others. It’s made like a pop-up tent and has the canopy attached. The benefit of this is that there are absolutely no gaps so bugs can’t get inside. However, even mesh blocks ventilation so the playpen can get hot inside. When you put the UV cover on top of the playpen, it gets even hotter. Note that the *orange* version does not have mesh on the canopy! Another downside of the attached canopy is that it’s tricky for short people to set up. You might not be able to reach the top, so will have to crawl inside to lock the poles in place. There are two doors on the playpen. One is on the canopy and actually big enough to get your child in/out easily. There is also a side entry door so your child can crawl inside or out on their own. If you’re not fully relying on mesh coverage, pairing this with a baby-safe repellent is still smart — see my [roundup of the best baby-safe mosquito repellents for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/best-baby-safe-mosquito-repellents-camping/). While it’s great that the playpen is so lightweight for its massive size, it’s also a sign that it’s not the strongest construction. **Pros** - Lightweight - Full bug protection - Can be staked out **Cons** - Not the sturdiest - Canopy blocks ventilation - Difficult for short people to set up --- **5** [![Graco Pack 'n Play](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41gcFR74zFL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09MWJB3LF?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1) **Best for Cold Ground** **[Graco Pack ‘n Play](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09MWJB3LF?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1)** - **40″ long x 28″ wide x 29″ tall** - **Weighs:** 23lbs - **Folded size:** 28×10.3×10″ - **Padded bottom** **[Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09MWJB3LF?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1)** Compared to a play yard, a Pack ‘N Play doesn’t give your child much room to play inside. It’s also massive and heavy when folded. But it’s almost the only option when it comes to keeping your child off the cold ground — pair it with a proper [baby sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/best-baby-sleeping-bags-camping/) for cold-weather trips. Just be warned that, if you want to use this in a tent, you’ll need to put something underneath the legs. Otherwise the legs will tear a hole in the tent floor. **Pros** - Insulates from cold ground - Various accessories available - Easy to find secondhand or on sale **Cons** - Heavy and bulky - Not much room to play --- *Image credits: “Striking Camping Trip #1” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Graham and Sheila](https://www.flickr.com/people/grahamandsheila/), “Baby standing outdoors in a playpen made” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [BiblioArchives / LibraryArchives](https://www.flickr.com/people/lac-bac/)* ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids --- ### [Best Family Camping Tents 2026: Top Picks for Every Budget](https://momgoescamping.com/best-tents-family-camping/) **Published:** February 25, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Looking for the best tent for family camping? The answer really depends on what type of camping you do with your family and how you will use the tent. Below I’ve listed the top family camping tents by type and their standout features. ## Quick Picks: - **Best Overall: [Eureka! Copper Canyon LX 8P](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B083T6TFC5/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B083T6TFC5&linkId=e8b64678b0339a07c8af4adb3f9cffca)** – Two rooms, two doors, easy setup, holds up well in weather - **Best for Large Families: [Core 12P Instant 3-Room](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DRQH7RQ/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07DRQH7RQ&linkId=9e229c9d23f2be90994f3f6b30c937d7)** – Three-room layout, instant setup, very affordable for the size - **Best for Family Backpacking: [Eureka! Space Camp 6P](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008IMKRQ4/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B008IMKRQ4&linkId=9058be47c96a869296fcd927b9685974)** – Just 16.1 lbs, two vestibules, withstands bad weather - **Best Budget Pick: [Coleman Skydome 8P Dark Room](https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Skydome-Camping-Tent-Technology/dp/B0B5BTGZ44?tag=momcampnew-20)** – Blocks 90% of sunlight, sets up in under 5 minutes - **Best Value Cabin Tent: [Wenzel Klondike 8P](https://www.amazon.com/Wenzel-8-Person-Klondike-Tent/dp/B01BIRE7ZW?tag=momcampnew-20)** – Cabin-style headroom with a screened porch, without cabin-tent pricing - **Best for Fast Setup: [Ozark Trail 10P Instant Cabin](https://www.amazon.com/Water-Resistant-10-Person-Headroom-Queen-Size-Removeable/dp/B0CT2PSPCF?tag=momcampnew-20)** – Ready in about 2 minutes, great for camping with kids underfoot - **Best Premium Pick: [Big Agnes Big House 6](https://www.amazon.com/Big-Agnes-House-Six-Person-Tent/dp/B001AZ5WXO?tag=momcampnew-20)** – Just 16 lbs, 81 inches of headroom, splurge-worthy for calm-weather trips **Become a camping pro with printable Camping Cheat Sheets** Everything from packing lists to campsite setup, ready to print before you go. **[Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** ## Best Family Camping Tents ### 1. [Eureka! Copper Canyon LX 8P Tent](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B083T6TFC5/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B083T6TFC5&linkId=e8b64678b0339a07c8af4adb3f9cffca) **Best Overall Family Camping Tent** ![eureka copper canyon 8p family tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/eureka-copper-canyon-8p-family-tent.jpg) The Eureka! Copper Canyon LX 8P is by far the most usable family tent. The usability is because the tent has two rooms, each with their own door. That gives you the flexibility to use one room as a hangout space or for gear storage and the other for sleeping. Or, because there are two doors, you can have people sleeping in each room without having to crawl over each other to get in/out. The tent is also very easy and fast to put up. With a durable construction and materials, you don’t have to worry about getting wet in this tent. #### **Notable Features:** - Two rooms and two doors - 156×120 footprint size - 84 inches of headroom and near vertical walls - Fits 2 queen sized air mattresses or up to 8 campers on pads - Massive windows and great ventilation - Sturdy steel main pole with fiberglass secondary poles - Storage pockets, E! PowerPort **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B083T6TFC5/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B083T6TFC5&linkId=e8b64678b0339a07c8af4adb3f9cffca)** --- ### 2. [Core 12P Instant 3-Room Tent](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DRQH7RQ/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07DRQH7RQ&linkId=9e229c9d23f2be90994f3f6b30c937d7) **Best for Large Families** ![core 12 instant family cabin tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/core-12-instant-tent.jpg) There are a lot of large tents, but few are actually set up in a way which makes sense for large families. The Core 12 is an exception. It has a really smart layout with three rooms: there is a center room and two bedrooms off to the side. The room dividers are removable, so you have some flexibility in how you want to use the tent. You could easily fit 4-5 people on cots or pads in each bedroom. Or you could put a queen air mattress in each bedroom (with room to spare) and a twin cot in the middle room. Because it is an instant tent, it is one of the fastest and easier family tents to pitch. Just bear in mind that instant tents tend to be weak. Be gentle when setting it up and taking it down and it will last a long time. #### **Notable Features:** - Very affordable large family tent - Three rooms: one central room and two bedrooms to the side - 18×10 feet - 80 inches of headroom and near vertical walls - Fits 2 queen sized air mattresses and a twin or up to 10 people on pads - Instant setup in 5 minutes - Storage pockets, vents, E! PowerPort **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DRQH7RQ/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07DRQH7RQ&linkId=9e229c9d23f2be90994f3f6b30c937d7)** --- ### 3. [Eureka! Space Camp 6P](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008IMKRQ4/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B008IMKRQ4&linkId=9058be47c96a869296fcd927b9685974) **Best Tent for Family Backpacking** ![eureka space camp family cabin tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/eureka-space-camp-family-cabin-tent.jpg) At 120×100 inches, the Eureka! Space Camp 6P tent can actually fit six campers in it. The pole construction creates near-vertical walls so you can actually use the space near the sides of the tent. There are two large vestibules and doors, so storing your gear won’t be an issue either. It is designed to withstand bad weather and has aluminum poles. The fly and floor material are a bit thin, but this is what allows the tent to get down to an impressively low 16.1lbs. Only the Big Agnes Big House 6P tent (see #7 below) comes close to this weight but it doesn’t have vestibules. #### **Notable Features:** - Weighs just 16.1lbs - Two doors and two vestibules - 120×100 inches - Adjustable ventilation - Very durable construction - Withstands bad weather - Vestibule turns into awning - Lots of storage pockets **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008IMKRQ4/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B008IMKRQ4&linkId=9058be47c96a869296fcd927b9685974)** --- ### 4. [Coleman Skydome 8-Person Dark Room Tent](https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Skydome-Camping-Tent-Technology/dp/B0B5BTGZ44?tag=momcampnew-20) **Best Budget Pick** *\[NEEDS PRODUCT IMAGE – upload to media library and replace this placeholder\]* For families who want a genuinely spacious tent without the premium price tag, the Coleman Skydome Dark Room 8P delivers. The Dark Room technology blocks 90% of sunlight, which is a game-changer if you have little ones who nap or wake up with the sun. It sets up in under 5 minutes thanks to pre-attached poles, and the nearly vertical walls give you 20% more headroom than a standard dome tent. #### **Notable Features:** - Blocks 90% of sunlight and reduces interior heat - Sets up in under 5 minutes with pre-attached poles - 12×9 ft footprint, 76 inches of headroom - Frame tested to withstand 35 mph winds - WeatherTec tub-style floor and welded corners - Fits 2 queen air mattresses **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Skydome-Camping-Tent-Technology/dp/B0B5BTGZ44?tag=momcampnew-20)** --- ### 5. [Wenzel Klondike 8-Person Cabin Tent](https://www.amazon.com/Wenzel-8-Person-Klondike-Tent/dp/B01BIRE7ZW?tag=momcampnew-20) **Best Value Cabin Tent** *\[NEEDS PRODUCT IMAGE – upload to media library and replace this placeholder\]* If you want cabin-tent headroom without cabin-tent pricing, the Wenzel Klondike is hard to beat. It’s a classic two-room layout: a 98 sq ft main room plus a 60 sq ft screened-in porch you can use as a gear room, sun shelter, or overflow sleeping space. At 6.5 feet of headroom, most adults can stand up straight. #### **Notable Features:** - 16×11 ft footprint: 98 sq ft main room + 60 sq ft screen room - 6.5 ft (78 in) peak height - Full mesh roof and two mesh windows for ventilation - Fiberglass frame with reinforced corners for wind stability - 10-year manufacturer warranty - About 27 lbs **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/Wenzel-8-Person-Klondike-Tent/dp/B01BIRE7ZW?tag=momcampnew-20)** --- ### 6. [Ozark Trail 10-Person Instant Cabin Tent](https://www.amazon.com/Water-Resistant-10-Person-Headroom-Queen-Size-Removeable/dp/B0CT2PSPCF?tag=momcampnew-20) **Best for Fast Setup** *\[NEEDS PRODUCT IMAGE – upload to media library and replace this placeholder\]* If pitching a tent with kids underfoot sounds like a nightmare, this is your tent. Pre-attached steel poles mean it’s genuinely ready in about 2 minutes — unfold it, extend the legs, done. It’s not the most weatherproof tent on this list, so it’s best suited for fair-weather car camping rather than a rainy weekend. #### **Notable Features:** - Sets up in about 2 minutes with pre-attached poles - 14×10 ft footprint (140 sq ft) - 78 inches of headroom - LED lighted poles for hands-free lighting at night - Fits 2 queen air mattresses with room to spare - Best for casual, fair-weather camping trips **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/Water-Resistant-10-Person-Headroom-Queen-Size-Removeable/dp/B0CT2PSPCF?tag=momcampnew-20)** --- ### 7. [Big Agnes Big House 6](https://www.amazon.com/Big-Agnes-House-Six-Person-Tent/dp/B001AZ5WXO?tag=momcampnew-20) **Best Premium Pick** *\[NEEDS PRODUCT IMAGE – upload to media library and replace this placeholder\]* This is the splurge option, and it’s genuinely a different category of tent. At just over 16 lbs, it’s dramatically lighter than every other tent on this list despite its huge 83 sq ft footprint and 81-inch peak height — tall enough for most adults to stand fully upright. The trade-off is weather performance: the rainfly doesn’t fully cover the doors, so it’s not the pick for a rainy or windy trip unless you add the accessory vestibule (sold separately). #### **Notable Features:** - Just 16 lbs 7 oz — far lighter than comparable cabin tents - 81 inches of peak height, near-vertical walls - 83 sq ft floor area - Backpack-style carry bag - Best for calm-weather trips; vestibule sold separately for better weather protection **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/Big-Agnes-House-Six-Person-Tent/dp/B001AZ5WXO?tag=momcampnew-20)** --- ## Choosing a Tent for Family Camping There are lots of different ways to go family camping, so it’s no surprise that there are also lots of different types of family tents. The options can seem overwhelming. However, if you ask yourself these 8 questions, you’ll be able to narrow the options down to the perfect family tent for *your* needs. ### 1. How Many Rooms Do You Need? When choosing a tent, most people first look at the size. Really, they should be looking at *how many rooms* they need. Most families will need at least a two-room tent. One room is used as an entranceway or porch for storing gear. If it is large enough, you can even hang out in there during bad weather. The second room is used for sleeping. ### 2. Tent Size Once you’ve established how many rooms you need, you can calculate how big the *sleeping area* of the tent needs to be. - **If sleeping on pads,** you will only need about 80×25 inches per person, which comes out to approximately 14 square feet per person. - **If sleeping on air mattresses,** you will need a lot more space. A twin mattress is usually 76×38 inches and a queen mattress is 80×60 inches. Don’t forget to add an extra 6-12 inches of space around the sides of the tent. Otherwise you will end up right against the tent wall, which can cause condensation problems and leakage in the rain. You may also want to add some extra space for walking between each pad or mattress. **For more info, read: [How Big Does a Family Tent Really Need to Be?](https://momgoescamping.com/how-big-family-tent/)** ### 3. Type of Tent There are four main types of tents used for family camping: - Cabin Tents - Tunnel Tents - Dome Tents - Modified Dome Tents Each tent type has its own pros/cons. For example, cabin tents have better headroom but don’t withstand windy weather very well. Dome tents are better suited for bad weather but tend to be cramped inside. **For more, read: [Types of Camping Tents (with Pictures)](https://momgoescamping.com/types-camping-tents-with-photos/)** ### 4. Number of Doors Having an extra door can really improve the functionality of a tent. For example, some two-room tents have a separate door for each room. This means people can enter/exit the rooms without bothering people in the other rooms. ### 5. Ease of Pitching If you are going to be camping at the same spot for a long time, the ease of pitching won’t matter as much. But, if you mostly go for weekend camping trips, you will want a tent which is fast and easy to pitch. Here are some of the factors which affect ease of pitching. - **Size:** In general, larger tents are much harder to pitch than smaller tents. - **Weight:** Some large family tents weigh more than 50lbs and are a pain to carry to the pitch site. - **Height:** Short people might not be able to reach the top of the tent when pitching. - **Freestanding or not:** Some tents have guylines which need to be completely staked out whereas others are freestanding and will stay up even if the guylines aren’t staked out. - **Type:** Certain types of tents, such as tunnel tents, are usually much more difficult to pitch than other types. - **Pole clips vs. sleeves:** It can be incredibly annoying and time-consuming to push poles through sleeves. Tents which clip onto the poles are faster and easier to pitch. ### 6. Weather Resistance You obviously don’t want a tent which will start leaking on you in the rain. However, weather resistance isn’t just about rain. Depending on the conditions, you may also need a tent which will withstand wind and hot sun (such as a dark room tent). Another weather factor that people overlook when choosing a family tent is condensation. Family tents without ventilation often have problems with condensation buildup, which can make the tent wet even in dry weather. You’ll need a tent which has features like mesh roof panels and air vents you can open. **Also read: [How to Solve Tent Condensation](https://momgoescamping.com/tent-condensation/)** ### 7. Extra Features Before choosing a family tent, decide on what features really matter to you. Some features to consider are: - Storage - Power cord access (power port) - Windows - Lantern hooks ### 8. Price Cheap family tents usually start around $150 and can go up into the thousands. If you aren’t sure which type of tent you need, it’s probably better to start with a cheaper tent. Take the cheap tent for a few camping trips to see what you like about it and what you don’t. Better yet, rent or borrow a tent from someone (Read: [Etiquette of Borrowing Camping Gear](https://momgoescamping.com/borrowing-camping-gear-etiquette/)). Then you will know exactly what you want when it comes time to invest in a better quality tent. ## Best Family Camping Tents FAQ How much should I spend on a family camping tent? Budget tents start around $150-200 and work fine for occasional summer trips. If you camp several times a year or want better weather resistance, expect to spend $250-400. Premium ultralight options like the Big Agnes Big House run $450+. What size tent do I need for a family of four? A 6-person tent gives a family of four comfortable room for gear and movement. If you’re using air mattresses instead of sleeping pads, size up to an 8-person tent since mattresses take up significantly more floor space. Are instant tents worth it for families? Yes, especially with young kids in tow. Instant tents trade some durability and weather resistance for genuinely faster setup, which matters a lot when you’re also unloading a car and managing children at the same time. *Image credit: “DSCN0249” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [Lenny Flank](https://www.flickr.com/people/lennyflank/)* ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** tents --- ### [Best Kids Rain Pants for Hiking and Outdoor Play (2026)](https://momgoescamping.com/best-kids-rain-pants/) **Published:** April 16, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** If you want your kids to be able to play outdoors even when it’s raining, they will absolutely need rain pants (it’s kind of pointless to have a rain jacket if you don’t also have pants!).  I have two daughters and they’ve had lots of rain pants over the years. Here’s my insight on the best rain pants for kids, including which features are actually worth paying for. Read more about camping in the rain below: [Complete Guide to Camping in the Rain](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-in-the-rain/) [What to Wear Camping in Rain, Cold, and Mud](https://momgoescamping.com/clothes-camping-rain-cold-mud/) | Product | Waterproof Rating | Breathability | Best For | Approx. Pri**ce** | |---|---|---|---|---| | OAKI Trail Rain Pants | 10,000mm | Moderate | Active hikers | $35–$45 | | Mountain Warehouse Pakka | 5,000mm | High | Budget pick | $15–$25 | | Marmot Youth PreCip | 10,000mm | Basic | Performance play | $50–$65 | | Playshoes Rain Bibs | 4,000mm | High | Young toddlers | $25–$35 | Have little kids? See these [best rain suits for babies](https://momgoescamping.com/baby-rain-suits/) and the [best rain pants for toddlers](https://momgoescamping.com/best-rain-suits-toddlers/). ## Quick Picks: **Best Overall: [OAKI Rain Pants](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09233R4BZ/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B09233R4BZ&linkId=9ff21e837ebd8e3191de0f181e6ac08f) Why?** They are incredibly waterproof, reinforced to be rugged enough for serious outdoor play and come in lots of colors. **Best for Little Kids: [Playshoes Rain Bibs](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000RU48YM/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B000RU48YM&linkId=14d699415157d5344b43849ff115a36b) Why?** They have stirrup straps so stay in place and the bib offers better protection for jumping in puddles. **Best for Older Kids: [Marmot Youth Precip Eco Rain Pants](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000O7153U/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B000O7153U&linkId=5eb0e8c8547e9709cd7ac5676eaa3307) Why?** They are lightweight and breathable, have zipper ankle openings for easy on/off and don’t leak. It’s just too bad they only come in black. **Best for Cold Weather: [Therm Kids All-Weather Overalls](http://thermkids.com/CAMPINGWITHMOM) Why?** The are lined with fleece to stay warm. Plus they are well-made, reinforced in key areas, 100% recycled materials and from a small mom-owned company. **Budget Pick: [Mountain Warehouse Pakka Kids Rain Pants](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MXPFST8/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00MXPFST8&linkId=36603298ca16e4a39cdd929a03b3edda) Why?** These are good enough for most rain play, come in lots of colors and sizes, and are very affordable. ## Features to Look for in Kids Rain Pants Here is what you should look at when choosing rain pants for your kids, especially if you want to do any hiking, camping or splashing in puddles. ### Pants or Bib? If your kids want to jump in puddles, then rain bibs are the way to go.  These will ensure that they don’t get wet from below.  However, rain bibs are fairly annoying to take off (especially without also taking the rain jacket off).  This can be problematic for potty training or going to the bathroom outdoors.  For this reason, I personally prefer rain pants over bibs for my daughters.  You can get a rain jacket which cinches around the waist to protect them against splashing from below. ### Waterproof Rating and Taped Seams Waterproofness is measured using a [Hydrostatic Head test](https://www.sgs.co.uk/en-gb/news/2019/12/the-background-to-rain-resistance-in-clothing-and-other-textiles) and listed in millimeters: the higher the rating in millimeters, the more waterproof the material is.  For everyday use, a waterproof rating of around 2,000mm is fairly good.  However, if your kids will be sitting in water, kneeling on wet ground,  or playing in torrential downpours, they will need a much higher waterproof rating.   The downside is that a high waterproof level means less breathability. You’ll also want to make sure the kids rain pants have taped seams so water doesn’t enter through the seams.  Almost all rain pants – even cheap ones – have this feature now though. ### Breathability By their nature, waterproof pants are not very breathable.  This isn’t such a big deal in cold weather when your kids wear several layers under the pants.  But, in warm weather, the lack of breathability means your kids will start to sweat quickly.  They end up getting wet from sweat instead of the rain. Really high-quality youth rain pants are made from multi-layer materials with breathable membranes. A *Moisture Vapor Permeability* (MVP) test measures how breathable a material is in grams per square meter (g/m2).  A rating of 2,000g/m2 is a good level of breathability for something that is completely waterproof. ### Stirrup Straps Rain pants should be worn *over* rain boots (otherwise rain will just drip down the pants and into the boots).  To keep the rain pants from riding up, you’ll want to choose a pair which has stirrups to go over the boots. Velcro cuffs also help keep the rain boots from riding up and are generally okay for older kids.  If you have little kids who kneel or crouch a lot, then you’ll want rain pants with stirrup straps. ![stirrups straps on kids rain pants](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/stirrups-straps-on-kids-rain-pants.jpg "stirrups straps on kids rain pants - Mom Goes Camping")*These rain pants didnt have stirrup straps Notice how the pants kept riding up I later sewed elastic on the rain pants* ### Adjustable Leg Openings If your kids put the rain pants on *before* they go outside, then the leg openings don’t really matter.  But my family spends a lot of time hiking and camping. We often have to put our rain pants on once we are already outdoors.  That means getting the rain pants on over boots.  It’s even more difficult to get rain pants *off* over boots – especially when the boots are really muddy. Good rain pants will have adjustable leg openings to make it easier to get the pants on/off over shoes.  The best option is to have a zipper going up the side. Infuriatingly, very few kids rain pants have this option.   Most just have a Velcro cuff or snaps at the bottom.   A lot of the “cute” rain pants don’t have any adjustable opening (just elastic cuffs) and are a major pain to put on/off over boots. ![zipper leg openings on rain pants](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/zipper-leg-openings-on-rain-pa-nts.jpg "zipper leg openings on rain pa nts - Mom Goes Camping") ### Style My girls are annoyingly fashion-conscious (not something they get from me!).  Neither of them like wearing clothes that look “dorky.”  I try to explain that it’s cool to be prepared, but the argument doesn’t work.   I got my older daughter a cheap pair of black rain pants once and hated wearing them. Since then, I’ve been more considerate about choosing “stylish” rain pants with cute colors and better fit (so they don’t look like 80’s style parachute pants). ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/sulking-because-of-dorky-rain-pants.jpg "sulking because of dorky rain pants - Mom Goes Camping")*My tween daughter sulking on a camping trip because I made her put dorky rain pants on I got her purple ones next time and she doesnt complain anymore* ## Best Rain Pants for Kids While there are tons of options when it comes to rain pants for babies and toddlers, there are surprisingly few options for kids 3+.  And you can mostly forget about getting any fun designs or styles for kids 8+.  I’ve scoured through the options though and here are the best rain pants available for kids now. ### 1. [OAKI Rain Pants](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09233R4BZ/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B09233R4BZ&linkId=9ff21e837ebd8e3191de0f181e6ac08f) ![oaki rain pants for kids](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/oaki-rain-pants-for-kids.jpg "oaki rain pants for kids - Mom Goes Camping") **Best For:**  Older kids who play outdoors a lot **Available Sizes:** 2-15 years Based out of Utah, the brand Oaki specializes in clothes for outdoor explorers.  Like most of their gear, these rain pants are meant for all sorts of bad weather.  The waterproof rating is 10,000mm and will not let any water through – even if your kids kneel directly in a puddle.  Despite being so waterproof, the material isn’t rubbery at all and it’s very breathable. I wish that there was a zipper up the side to make it easier to get these rain pants on/off but the Velcro cuff is a nice touch.  Because there is no stirrup strap, these are better for slightly older kids.  Note that Oaki also makes a full rain suit for hardcore rain play! **Pros** - Soft fabric - 10,000mm waterproof rating - 3,000mvp breathability - Adjustable Velcro cuffs - Elastic waist with drawstring - Lots of colors available - Rip-proof polyester **Cons** - No side zipper or stirrup straps [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09233R4BZ/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B09233R4BZ&linkId=9ff21e837ebd8e3191de0f181e6ac08f) --- ### 2. [Playshoes Rain Bibs](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000RU48YM/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B000RU48YM&linkId=14d699415157d5344b43849ff115a36b) ![Playshoes rain bibs for kids](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/playshoes-rain-pants-front-and-back.jpg "playshoes rain pants front and back - Mom Goes Camping") **Taking the kids camping for the first time?** My “Your Family’s First Camping Trip” bundle has the complete guide, printable packing checklist, and three done-for-you itineraries — everything from booking the site to the drive home. **[Get the bundle →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/1stcampingtrip)** **Best For:** When you needs bibs for better rain protection **Available Sizes:** 1-10 years These rain bibs by Playshoes are one of the few which actually have stirrups.  This means that the pants actually won’t ride up on your child, so they can jump around and still stay dry.  There are some other nice touches too, like the reflector strips for better visibility, snaps around the waist so your kid can get in/out easier and the elastic around the back for a better fit. The material on these rain pants isn’t the best though.  It does have a plastic feel to it and rips fairly easily.  Definitely do not put them in the washer or dryer!  Despite that, they are still a good option – especially if you want bibs for better rain protection. **Pros** - Have stirrup strap - Snap at waist - Elastic at back for better fit - Lots of colors **Cons** - Sizes run large - Not very breathable - Material is plastic-like and tears easily - No side zips **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000RU48YM/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B000RU48YM&linkId=14d699415157d5344b43849ff115a36b)** --- ### 3. [Marmot Youth PreCip Eco Rain Pants](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000O7153U/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B000O7153U&linkId=5eb0e8c8547e9709cd7ac5676eaa3307) ![marmot pricip rain pants for kids](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/marmot-pricip-rain-pants-for-kids.jpg "marmot pricip rain pants for kids - Mom Goes Camping") **Best For:** Hiking rain pants which have zippered leg openings **Available Sizes:** XS to XL (4-15 years) While I wish that these youth rain pants came in colors other than black, they are by far one of the best options for hiking and outdoor play.  They have a zippered opening at the legs so you can easily get them on even over hiking boots. The inseams have gussets which allows for better range of motion. The NanoPro recycled nylon material is very thin but is still rip-proof and durable.  Marmot doesn’t list the waterproof rating but the pants definitely keep water out.  They are also the most breathable rain pants I’ve found. There are two zippered pockets.  There aren’t any stirrups but the snaps at the leg cuffs help keep the pants in place over boots.  The waist is elastic but isn’t adjustable, so check the sizes before buying.  **[See the size guide here](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/marmot-kids-size-guide.png).** **Pros** - Leg zippers - Two hand pockets - Fantastic breathability - Durable material - Lightweight - Gusseted inseam **Cons** - Pricier than other options - Elastic waist isn’t adjustable - Only come in black  [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000O7153U/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B000O7153U&linkId=5eb0e8c8547e9709cd7ac5676eaa3307) --- ### 4. [Therm Kids All-Weather Overalls](http://thermkids.com/CAMPINGWITHMOM) ![therm kids all weather waterproof pants](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/therm-kids-all-weather-waterproof-pants.jpg "therm kids all weather waterproof pants - Mom Goes Camping") **Best For:** Rain pants which can be used as snow pants too **Available Sizes:** 6 months to 4 years These waterproof pants are lined with fleece to add extra warmth.  This makes them suitable enough to use in winter if you add enough warm layers underneath.  I also love that they are reinforced at the knees and butt, have stirrups so the legs won’t ride up on your child, and the elasticized waist gives a better fit. Another nice thing is that the pants are made from 100% recycled materials.  The company is owned by a cool mom, so choosing these means you are supporting a small business. 🙂 Note: The company also makes “Splash Magic” jackets — a cool pattern appears when the jacket gets wet and disappears when the jacket dries!  They also have non-lined waterproof pants with sizes for up to 14 years old. **Pros** - Stirrup straps - Elasticized waist for good fit - Fleece lined - 10,000mm waterproof rating - Reinforced at knees and butt - 100% recycled materials **Cons** - Only come in sizes up to 4  [**Buy Here**](http://thermkids.com/CAMPINGWITHMOM) ([Use this link](http://thermkids.ca/CAMPINGWITHMOM) if you’re in Canada) --- ### 5. [Columbia Cypress Brook II Rain Pants](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07R4C5QBS/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07R4C5QBS&linkId=dc8e823d5e7f85f9b392bb9e0f40bbda) ![columbia kids rain pants](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/columbia-kids-rain-pants.jpg "columbia kids rain pants - Mom Goes Camping") **Best For:** Durability and budget **Available Sizes:** 2-16 While my daughters haven’t tried these specific pants, my younger did have a Columbia rain suit made from this same material.  I loved that rain suit! The material is very thin but still really durable and doesn’t have a plastic feel to it.  It didn’t tear even with her crawling over rough ground.  The breathability isn’t the best, but it is decent. There is a Velcro tab at the cuffs so you can get the pants on/off easily.  It’s also nice that there is a pocket.  Considering how affordable these rain pants are, they are a great choice for all sorts of activities. **Pros** - Very durable material - Velcro leg cuffs - Nice material with decent breathability - Lightweight and packable - Lots of colors **Cons** - No zippered leg openings or drawstring on waist - No stirrup straps [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07R4C5QBS/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07R4C5QBS&linkId=dc8e823d5e7f85f9b392bb9e0f40bbda) --- ### 6. [REI Co-Cop Kids Rainwall Pants](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F144479%2Frei-co-op-rainwall-rain-pants-kids) ![REI kids rainwall waterproof pants](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/REI-Co-Cop-Rainwall-Pants.jpg "REI Co-Cop Rainwall Pants - Mom Goes Camping") **Best For:** Durable rain pants **Available Sizes:** 4-18 These REI rain pants do exactly what they are supposed to do.  They won’t leak and the breathability is good enough for hiking and active play.  The material is also durable enough that you can pass them down to younger kids. I love that the elastic in the waistband is adjustable so you don’t have to worry about them squeezing your kid’s waist. I can’t understand why REI would make rain pants that don’t have side zippers though.  They are supposed to understand the needs of hikers and campers.   Because they only come in one color and are slightly pricy, I ranked them below the Columbia kids rain pants. **Pros** - Partially-elastic cuffs with Velcro closure - Side pocket - Good breathability - Elastic waistband is adjustable - Fit true to size - Durable material **Cons** - Only come in black - No leg zipper - No stirrup strap  [Buy Here](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F144479%2Frei-co-op-rainwall-rain-pants-kids)** --- ### 7. [Mountain Warehouse Kids Pakka Rain Pants](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MXPFST8/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00MXPFST8&linkId=36603298ca16e4a39cdd929a03b3edda) ![Mountain Warehouse Pakka Kids Waterproof Rain Pants for kids](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Mountain-Warehouse-Pakka-Kids-Waterproof-Rain-Pants-for-kids.jpg "Mountain Warehouse Pakka Kids Waterproof Rain Pants for kids - Mom Goes Camping") **Best For:** Packable pants for light rain **Available Sizes:** 2-14 years If you just need something that your kids can wear in light rain, these overpants from Mountain Warehouse are a good option.  They are much thinner than other rain pants, so you wouldn’t want your kids crawling through bushes.  The pants are also only rated for 1,500mm waterproofness, so aren’t the best option for kneeling in wet spots. However, the thinness and lower waterproof rating do have their benefits.  First off, the pants are very packable. These are something your kids could keep in their schoolbag for rainy days.  The low waterproof level means that the pants are incredibly breathable and not as clammy as most. I still wish that the pants had some pockets or other features for the price.  But they are a good option when you need something lightweight for mild rain. **Pros** - Lightweight - Good breathability - Snaps at cuffs - Come with stuff sack **Cons** - No drawstring on elastic waist - No pockets - No stirrup straps or side zippers - Thin material rips easily [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MXPFST8/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00MXPFST8&linkId=36603298ca16e4a39cdd929a03b3edda) --- ### 8. [Hatley Splash Pants](https://amzn.to/4u7ER8Z) ![hatley kids waterproof splash pants](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/hatley-kids-rain-splash-pants.jpg "hatley kids rain splash pants - Mom Goes Camping") **Best For:** Little kids **Available Sizes:** 2-10 years old Hatley is a small family-owned business which makes rain gear with cute prints and styles.  They have several waterproof pants (aka splash pants) for kids. The raindrop ones shown in the picture change colors when wet. The splash pants are really well made and won’t leak anywhere.  The rain pants are a bit annoying to take on/off since the cuffs aren’t adjustable.  Even though these are available in sizes up to 10 years old, they are best for little kids who splash around in puddles. **Pros** - Good quality - Super cute designs and patterns - Elastic waist with drawstring - One exterior pocket **Cons** - No stirrup straps - No adjustable opening on cuffs **[Buy Here](https://amzn.to/4u7ER8Z)** --- ### 9. [Jan & Jul Puddle Dry Rain Pants](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0866CW13V/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B0866CW13V&linkId=64a1a0459e830e5d0b59cc86c374f574) ![jan and jul rain pants](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/jan-and-jul-rain-pants.jpg "jan and jul rain pants - Mom Goes Camping") **Best For:** Breathable pants for playing in mud and dirt **Available Sizes:** 1-10 years These polyester pants have a waterproof rating of 10,000mm and are breathable at 3,000g/m.  They are one of the more comfortable pants for your kids to wear.  The stirrups straps mean the pants won’t ride up. There are several cute designs that little kids will love. However, a lot of people complained that the pants started to leak at the seams (which are supposedly sealed).  Because of this, these are better for playing in the mud or dirty conditions.   The breathability means that they are more comfortable for play and will keep your kids’ clothes clean.  It’s hard to get stains out of the pants though, so maybe choose a darker color! **Pros** - Stirrup straps - Good breathability - Comfortable material - Cute designs and colors - Waistband elastic is adjustable **Cons** - May start to leak at seams - Hard to get on/off [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0866CW13V/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B0866CW13V&linkId=64a1a0459e830e5d0b59cc86c374f574) ##  Frequently Asked Questions: Should rain pants go over or under rain boots? Always over. Rain runs down the pants and straight into the boots if you tuck them in. To keep the pants from riding up, choose a pair with stirrup straps that go under the boot sole, or at minimum adjustable Velcro cuffs that grip the boot shaft. What age can kids wear rain pants? From about 12 months onward for bib styles, and from about 2 years for regular rain pants. Bibs work better for toddlers who crawl or crouch a lot — the bib coverage prevents water from getting in at the waist. Older kids (5+) generally do better with regular pants that are easier to take on and off independently, especially for bathroom breaks on hikes. Are rain bibs or rain pants better for kids? Bibs give better protection for toddlers who jump in puddles — they cover the waist gap that lets rain in. Regular pants are easier for potty-trained kids to manage independently. My preference is regular pants with a rain jacket that cinches at the waist, which eliminates the gap without the bib’s bathroom hassle. --- Image credit:”[Puddle Splasher !!!](https://www.flickr.com/photos/looking_and_learning/8433841786/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [Geoffery Kehrig](https://www.flickr.com/people/looking_and_learning/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** kids, pants, rain --- ### [Best Lightweight Frying Pans and Skillets for Backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/lightweight-frying-pan-skillets-backpacking/) **Published:** February 13, 2024 **Author:** Diane **Content:** One “luxury” backpacking item which can be really worth its weight is a skillet or frying pan.  Having one greatly increases the types of foods you can make on the trail.  For example, you’ll be able to cook up pancakes, quesadillas, sausage, cinnamon rolls, eggs you got during refueling trips in town, and even pizzas. If you plan your setup right, the frying pan can also serve as a sauce pan, allowing you to make two-part meals – like preparing instant mashed potatoes in your main pot and dehydrated gravy in the frying pan.  Then you really get a LOT more options for backpacking food. The problem is that most lightweight backpacking skillets are terrible for gas canister or even alcohol stoves. The lightweight metal doesn’t transfer heat well so you end up with either burnt or undercooked food (not to mention a burnt pan and a lot of frustration on the trail). So, you’ve really got to be realistic about how lightweight you can get while still having a useable product. And, if you are going to go with ultralight titanium frying pots, then you’ve got to know how to properly use them with your stove. I’ll go over all of that here. 🙂 [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/backpacking-skillet-pancakes.jpg "backpacking skillet pancakes - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/backpacking-skillet-pancakes.jpg)Backpacking pancakes ## Quick Answer: Hard anodized frying pans are best for backpacking. They are conduct heat well, are durable and nonstick, and are lightweight.  Titanium is much lighter but you’ll need to use an alcohol stove and keep the pan above the flame. You may also need to season the titanium pan or use a lot of oil to keep food from sticking. ### Top Picks: - **Best Overall: [Trangia 27 UL](https://amzn.to/48o9ZWg)** -Made from anodized aluminum so it’s lightweight and naturally nonstick. Great quality product without costing too much. You’ll need your own handle though, which adds approx. 1.5oz of weight. - **Runner Up: [Jetboil Skillet](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F149911%2Fjetboil-summit-skillet)** – It’s has a thicker middle than edges for better heat distribution. Just take good care of it because of the nonstick surface. - **Ultralight Pick: [Boundless Titanium Voyage Set](https://amzn.to/48hJK3J)** – Comes with a pot and frying pan that also serves as a lid. Great UL setup and surprisingly affordable too. - **Most Durable: [MSR Alpine Fry](https://amzn.to/4btiGB8)** – It’s far from ultralight but this stainless steel frying pan can take a beating and also distributes heat really well. - **Budget Pick: [Toaks D115](https://amzn.to/3uu3vHn) or [Toaks D145](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F233144%2Ftoaks-titanium-d145-mm-frying-pan)** – A really good brand of cheap titanium cookware. Just be realistic about how well titanium handles high temperatures. --- ### Want to elevate your trail food? Check out my eBook. It’s got over 50 gourmet dehydrator recipes which are insanely calorie-dense and delicious. [![backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/backpacking-dehydrator-recipes-ebook.jpg "backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmetasheck) **[Get it here](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmetasheck)** --- ## Comparison Table \*Ti = Titanium; Al = aluminum; An Al = Anodized aluminum; SS = stainless steel \[table id=95 /\] ## Heat Transfer When Boiling vs. Frying (or Why Your Backpacking Pan Will Burn) [![backpacking aluminum skillet/frying pan for cooking sausage](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/backpacking-aluminum-skillet.jpg "backpacking aluminum skillet - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/backpacking-aluminum-skillet.jpg) Let’s start with a quick primer on boiling vs. frying cooking methods.  Trust me, this is important if you want to avoid burning your pan! ### Boiling = Convection When you boil food in a pot, the primary method of heat transfer is *convection.* With this method, the heat is transferred to the water.  The hot liquid rises and cooler liquid drops, where it is reheated.  This continuous circulation ensures the heat is evenly distributed throughout the pot. Since the food is surrounded by the liquid, it also has a uniform cooking temperature. The pot never gets above the boiling point of water. There are no hot spots and your pot doesn’t burn. ### Frying = Conduction Frying uses *conduction*: heat is transferred to the food through direct contact with the frying pan.   There is no liquid in the pan to help transfer the heat, so the pan gets a LOT hotter than the temperature of boiling water. Conduction does wonderful things to your food like caramelizing and searing.  But it also means that heat isn’t evenly distributed so you get hot spots on the pan.  If you aren’t careful, the pot can burn and food sticks. To prevent burning and sticking, good skillets are made from a thick material which conducts heat well (think cast iron). The extra mass allows for a more gradual and even transfer of heat throughout the entire pan, preventing rapid temperature fluctuations and hot spots. ## Best Material for Backpacking Frying Pans? **Anodized aluminum is the best choice for backpacking frying pans.** It is a good heat conductor while still being lightweight enough for backpacking. Compared to regular aluminum, the surface is more durable and naturally nonstick. If weight is your primary concern though, titanium is the way to go. However, titanium frying pans are terrible heat conductors.  You’ll need to take a lot of care to ensure the pan doesn’t burn. When it comes to durability, stainless steel is the best choice and also conducts heat decently. The downside is that it’s too heavy for most backpackers. I’ll go over each of the different material choices here as well as the best frying pans.  Whatever frying pan you choose, be sure to test it at home first! ### Aluminum With the exception of copper, aluminum has the best conduction properties of any frying pan material.  It is even better than cast iron in conducting heat.  This makes it great for dry foods like sausages. Aluminum frying pans also have the benefit of being incredibly lightweight and cheap. The downside is that aluminum pans aren’t very durable.  I use aluminum cookware backpacking and the pots definitely have dents in them! Any sort of dent in your pan will cause sticking in those spots, so you need to be more careful with them.  Trangia solves this by adding a layer of stainless steel to the pans to make them more durable. #### Recommended: 1 [![TRANGIA 27 Duossal 2.0](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/11wjhGvQzZL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FE1X2GS?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [TRANGIA 27 Duossal 2.0](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FE1X2GS?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) - 2.8 oz - 7.4″ x 1.2″ [27 Version](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FE1X2GS?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1)[25 Version](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HAPT31A?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) The Duossal by Trangia is made out of aluminum with a layer of stainless steel on the interior bottom. This makes it lightweight, able to conduct heat well but stronger than aluminum alone. The 27 version is very lightweight at 2.8oz.  The 25 version is larger (8.7×1.3″) and weighs 4.2oz.  Both pans can nest into each other. --- ### Hard Anodized Aluminum [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/backpacking-skillet-pizza.jpg "backpacking skillet pizza - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/backpacking-skillet-pizza.jpg)*Yes backpacking pizza* Anodized pans are created through a process called anodization. First, the aluminum pan is immersed in an acid electrolyte bath. Then, an electric current is applied, forming an oxide layer on the surface. This oxide layer creates a surface that is more durable and naturally nonstick. In terms of usability – such as nonstick properties and ease of cleaning – anodized aluminum pans are definitely better than regular aluminum. The only downside is that they are pricier and there aren’t as many options. #### Recommended: 1 [![MSR Quick Skillet](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/31XeIcnuoxL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00453MV78?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1) [MSR Quick Skillet](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00453MV78?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1) - Removable handle - 5.6 oz - 7″ x 2″ [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00453MV78?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1)[At REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F115071%2Fmsr-quick-skillet) This skillet is a nice size and weight and doesn’t cost a fortune. It nests with Quick 2, Base 2 and Alpinist 2 cookware. 2 [![Sea to Summit X-Pan](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/31hNrGHQmPL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B097MNCQ7M?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1) [Sea to Summit X-Pan](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B097MNCQ7M?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1) - 10oz - 8.5″ x 1.5″ [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B097MNCQ7M?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1)[At REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F889972%2Fsea-to-summit-x-pan-8-in) You’ll either love or hate the X pan because of its weird collapsible handles. It’s heavy, but also large enough for multiple people. It’s been discontinued so you may only be able to find it as a set with the pot and kettle, both of which are collapsible. The set nests together but is heavy at 1.8lbs total. It’s also pretty pricy. 3 [![TRANGIA 27 UL Hard Anodized](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/21bGKLf7YVL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001OPJUBA?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [TRANGIA 27 UL Hard Anodized](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001OPJUBA?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) - 2.8 oz - 7.4″ x 1.2″ - Also comes in 8″ size [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001OPJUBA?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) Trangia makes good products which don’t cost a fortune. The edges are nicely rounded so the pan is easy to clean. Bear in mind that this skillet doesn’t have a handle, so you’ll need to use a pot grabber. [This one](https://amzn.to/42AuEoF) weighs 1.5oz and is cheap. 4 [![Fat Daddio's Pie Pan](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/312oD5r5S-L._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0017Z2348?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [Fat Daddio’s Pie Pan](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0017Z2348?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) - 7″ x 1.5″ - 5.6oz - Available in other sizes; 10″ size weighs 6.9oz [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0017Z2348?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) This isn’t meant for backpacking but works great as a fry pan. It’s made from thick anodized aluminum that distributes heat well. The edges do have a lip, so it can be annoying to clean, but is a good cheap solution. --- ### Titanium [![titanium skillet for backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/backpacking-skillet-lightweight-1024x512.jpg "backpacking skillet lightweight - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/backpacking-skillet-lightweight.jpg)*Youll need a lot of oil plus to keep the heat down on titanium* For ultralight backpacking, titanium *pots* are the best choice.  But, when it comes to *pans,* titanium is a terrible material.  It doesn’t conduct heat well at all. Try to cook pancakes in a titanium skillet and the center of the pancake will be burnt before the edges are remotely cooked! If you are so obsessed with reducing pack weight that you want to use a titanium pan, you are probably better off not bringing a pan in the first place.  That said, there are some people who successfully have used titanium pots while backpacking. #### If you want to use a titanium frying pan… - **Add a lot of oil to the pan.** The extra oil then transfers heat through convection so the pot is less likely to burn and food is less likely to stick. But bringing that much extra oil negates the weight-saving benefits of choosing titanium in the first place (unless you really like oily food). - **Move the pan around constantly.** This prevents hot spots from forming in one place. This is a pain though. - **Use an alcohol stove.** The temperature of an alcohol stove is typically less than that of a gas stove. - **Put pan above flame.** If using an alcohol stove, you can prop up the pan so it is higher above the flame so you don’t get as intense of a hot spot. - **Season the pan.** Just like how you would season a cast iron pan, you can season a titanium pan. This involves putting a coating of flax or rapeseed oil on the pan, heating it in the oven, removing from the oven to let it cool and then taking it out of the oven and repeating the process. #### Recommended: 1 [![Snow Peak Trek 1400](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/21nZVnEhkSL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000AR2N30?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [Snow Peak Trek 1400](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000AR2N30?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) - Contains pot with fry pan that acts as a lid - 5.57″ - 2.2oz (just pan); 7.4oz (set) - Nests with Trek 900 and 700 - Rounded edges for easier cleaning - Folding handles [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000AR2N30?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) 2 [![TOAKS D115](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/21cP4ddJyIL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CGTS34SQ?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [TOAKS D115](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CGTS34SQ?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) - 1.6 oz - 4.75″ x 1.5″ - Handle folds - Also available in 5 5/8″ size - Can be a lid for the Toaks 900ml and 1100ml pots - Cheap! [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CGTS34SQ?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) 3 [![Boundless Voyage Plate](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/31wPECrEvuL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08NPBKFFP?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [Boundless Voyage Plate](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08NPBKFFP?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) - Plate that works as a frying pan if you get a handle for it - 7″ x 1″ - 2.1oz - Also available in other sizes and shapes - Cheap [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08NPBKFFP?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) 4 [![Boundless Voyage Set](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/31Q3KygKJ7L._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08T66F6WQ?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [Boundless Voyage Set](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08T66F6WQ?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) - Set contains 1000ml pot and 500ml pan - Also available with 1200ml pot - 5.6×1.3″ (pan) - 2.3oz (pan only); 6.3oz (set) [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08T66F6WQ?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) - Set contains 1000ml pot and 500ml pan - Also available with 1200ml pot - 5.6×1.3″ (pan) - 2.3oz (pan only); 6.3oz (set) 5 [![Keith Titanium Ti6014](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41dO1XFJw6L._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CIH9XQ0?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [Keith Titanium Ti6014](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CIH9XQ0?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) - Set contains 2 pots (1200ml/4.4oz and 800ml/3.5oz) and 1 pan (400ml/2.5oz) - 5.45″x1.57″ (pan) - Pan serves as a lid for either pot [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CIH9XQ0?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) - Set contains 2 pots (1200ml/4.4oz and 800ml/3.5oz) and 1 pan (400ml/2.5oz) - 5.45″x1.57″ (pan) - Pan serves as a lid for either pot --- ### Stainless Steel Stainless steel isn’t nearly as good of a heat conductor as aluminum and it’s also heavier.  But, when it comes to durability, you really can’t be stainless steel.  It can handle very high heat well (including your gas canister stove) and you don’t have to worry about it getting scratched in your pack or during cleaning. For solo backpacking, stainless steel pans are probably too heavy to be worth it.  But, if you are sharing the weight with a group, it is worth considering because of the durability. #### Recommended: 1 [![MSR Alpine Stainless Steel Camping Fry Pan](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/31cg0rpmRAL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001VQ5D4K?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [MSR Alpine Stainless Steel Camping Fry Pan](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001VQ5D4K?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) - Stainless steel with an aluminum bottom for better heat distribution - 7.7″ x 1.9″ - 11.4oz - Removable handle - Nests with MSR 3L Apline pot [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001VQ5D4K?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) --- ### Non-Stick Backpacking Frying Pans [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/backpacking-skillet-with-nonstick-coating-damaged.jpg "backpacking skillet with nonstick coating damaged - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/backpacking-skillet-with-nonstick-coating-damaged.jpg)*Look how beat up the coating on this nonstick frying pan is* Non-stick pans have a coating on them that prevents food from sticking to them.  The problem is that these coatings usually can’t withstand high heat.    They also are easily scratched and damaged. Most guides recommend keeping the temperatures to below 400ºF (good luck doing that with a gas canister stove!). Otherwise the coating can wear away.  With Teflon, the coating can bubble off and get into your food, which has serious health risks.  These health risks are why virtually no backpacking pots have Teflon coatings: they generally use ceramic instead.  But even ceramic nonstick coatings don’t handle heat very well. #### If you want to use a nonstick frying pan backpacking… - **Only plastic or silicone utensils.** Don’t even think of touching it with metal! - **Pack it carefully.** You’ll need to put a microfiber towel or something else in the pan to prevent it from getting scratched in your pack. - **Use an alcohol stove.** The temperature is lower so the coating will last longer. - **Be realistic about longevity.** Some of these pans are expensive , so consider how much you want to spend on a backpacking pan which might not survive many trips. - **Don’t use Teflon.**   It will be on a stove which gets insanely hot. #### Recommended: 1 [![MSR Nonstick Skillet](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/31AiLFLAReL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07YWWYR9N?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1) [MSR Nonstick Skillet](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07YWWYR9N?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1) - 8″x2″ - 6.8oz - Aluminum with ceramic coating [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07YWWYR9N?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1)[REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F170568%2Fmsr-ceramic-skillet-8-in) Like most MSR products, this skillet isn’t cheap but it’s really well made. The ceramic coating holds up well.  The aluminum is a bit thicker so it distributes heat fairly well.  The handle is removable. 2 [![Jetboil Summit Skillet](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/31ohF6mPvOL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07KTCXTCF?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1) [Jetboil Summit Skillet](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07KTCXTCF?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1) - Aluminum with ceramic coating - 8″x1.9″ - 10.6oz [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07KTCXTCF?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1)[REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F149911%2Fjetboil-summit-skillet) This is far from the lightest backpacking skillet but it’s really well made. The center of the skillet is thicker than the edges, which reduces hot spots and burning. You still need to be careful with it, but it holds up well. 3 [![Evernew ECA148](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/311sYxqEt5L._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B1S64RW?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [Evernew ECA148](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B1S64RW?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) - Titanium with ceramic coating - 4.9oz - 7.3″ - Available in two other sizes [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B1S64RW?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) “Titanium plasma coating” is a newer nonstick technology that is safer and more durable than ceramic. It withstands high heat and scratching better than ceramic too. Amazon uses it on some of their frying pans but, otherwise, it’s still not very popular. The pan ends up being expensive because of this. 4 [![Boundless Voyage Nonstick](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/31VX0JWVOyL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CF9QQYPM?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [Boundless Voyage Nonstick](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CF9QQYPM?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) - Titanium with ceramic coating - 7oz - 7.4″1.6″ - Also available in 8.6″ size [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CF9QQYPM?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) This is the most affordable of the nonstick backpacking pans here, while still being a good quality.  I like how there’s a lock on the handle so it isn’t as wobbly as other removable handles. ## Backpacking Frying Pan FAQ: Do I really need a separate frying pan for backpacking? Not necessarily. If you only want to fry occasionally, a wide, short pot works as a skillet — the Sea to Summit Alpha and MSR Ceramic Solo are good examples. A dedicated frying pan only makes sense if you plan to cook things like pancakes, eggs, or pizza regularly, or if you want to cook two-part meals using both a pot and a pan at the same time. Why does food burn in a titanium backpacking pan? Titanium is a poor heat conductor compared to aluminum or stainless steel. Heat concentrates directly under the flame rather than spreading evenly across the pan, creating a hot spot in the center. The fix is to keep the pan elevated above the flame (easiest with an alcohol stove), use extra oil to help transfer heat through the pan, and keep the food moving constantly. Even with all these tricks, titanium pans are not ideal for anything that needs even cooking. ## Alternative Solution: Use Your Pot as a Skillet If you only want to occasionally fry something when backpacking, consider using your pot as a skillet.  You’ll just need to choose a pot which is wider and shorter (as opposed to those narrow/tall pots which are more popular). The [MSR Ceramic Solo](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F170569%2Fmsr-ceramic-solo-pot-13-liters) (1.3L, 7.3oz) is a good choice. ## Don’t forget about my eBook! [![backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/backpacking-dehydrator-recipes-ebook.jpg "backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/backpacking-dehydrator-recipes-ebook.jpg) **[Get my book here](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck)** --- ###### Resources: <https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/cooking-tools/cookware-reviews/a43974972/best-cookware-material/>, <https://therationalkitchen.com/best-cookware-material/>, <https://prudentreviews.com/ceramic-cookware-pros-and-cons/#Con-Durability>, <https://hestanculinary.com/pages/titum-story>, <https://evernew-global.com/products/alminium/feature.html>, <https://lumenflon.eu/en/titanium-plasma/> ###### Image credits: “[Kyle prepares excellent pancakes on our](https://www.flickr.com/photos/brianholsclaw/9439149637/)” ([CC BY-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/2.0/)) by [brianholsclaw](https://www.flickr.com/people/brianholsclaw/) “[Fry ’em!](https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/9662700786/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [lumachrome](https://www.flickr.com/people/lumachrome/) “[Eliza and Rose](https://www.flickr.com/photos/simonov/3783047776/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [simonov](https://www.flickr.com/people/simonov/) “[bacon and eggs (and butter.)](https://www.flickr.com/photos/mizinformation/5298102081/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [mizinformation](https://www.flickr.com/people/mizinformation/) “[IMG\_8835](https://www.flickr.com/photos/sterlingcollege/49106529606/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Sterling College](https://www.flickr.com/people/sterlingcollege/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Food, Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [How to Fix a Broken Tent Pole with No Special Equipment](https://momgoescamping.com/fix-broken-tent-pole/) **Published:** June 17, 2024 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I have a lot of tents, including two old, cheaper tents with fiberglass poles. I let some friends borrow these tents to go camping at a music festival (no way my good ultralight tents are going to a festival!).  They ended up having a terrible time because a super-cell storm blew through the festival.  Yes, it was scary. Everyone was okay, but the high winds caused the fiberglass tent poles to break in multiple spots. My friends ended up sleeping in the car. But it got me thinking about how they could have repaired the tent poles in the field.  So, I did some experiments and here’s how I fixed the broken tent poles without any special supplies. By the way, my friend offered to buy me new tents. I refused since these are old, crappy tents anyway. But do read about the [etiquette of borrowing camping gear](https://momgoescamping.com/borrowing-camping-gear-etiquette/)! ## How to Fix Snapped Tent Poles If your tent poles snapped completely in two, the best solution is to use a “tent pole repair sleeve.”  It’s basically a straw-like metal tube that you put over the two broken sections to splint them together.  They are easy to use and sets of them only cost about $10. You can [get them here](https://amzn.to/4eCnbLs). But, seriously, who brings repair sleeves with them camping? I’m one of those insanely organized planning types of people, and I don’t bring them! Instead, you can use the two methods below to fix a snapped tent pole. They work for both broken fiberglass and aluminum tent poles. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/pole-repair-sleeve.jpg "pole repair sleeve - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/pole-repair-sleeve.jpg)This is what a tent repair sleeve looks like                                                              **Heading out soon?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup, print them before you go. **[                                                             Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** ### 1. DIY Tent Pole Repair Sleeve With this method, you basically improvise a tent pole repair sleeve out of a piece of a disposable plastic water bottle. Another tube-like object would work, but I can’t think of anything I’d have handy other than a plastic water bottle. **You need:** - **Duct tape:** Medical tape or electrical tape will also work; cellophane tape tears easily so isn’t recommended - **Disposable plastic bottle:** Ideally one with smooth sides and not a lot of bumps; thinner bottles work better than thick plastic (no Gatorade bottles) - **Way to cut the bottle:** A sharp knife or the saw on your multi-tool will do the trick. The scissors from your first aid kit will also work. **Instructions:** 1. **Line up the broken ends of the pole.** 2. **Wrap the ends in duct tape to hold them together.** Tape alone is not enough to fix snapped tent poles! 3. **Cut a rectangular section from a disposable plastic bottle.** Cut UP the bottle for the longer side.  You want the curved part to go along the pole. 4. **Tape one side of the bottle along the pole.** The taped broken section should be in the middle. 5. **Wrap the piece of bottle around the pole.** Secure it in place with lots of tape. It looks messy, but hopefully you can see what’s going on in these pictures. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/fix-broken-tent-poles.jpg "fix broken tent poles - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/fix-broken-tent-poles.jpg) [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/fix-broken-tent-poles-2.jpg "fix broken tent poles 2 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/fix-broken-tent-poles-2.jpg) [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/fix-broken-tent-poles-3.jpg "fix broken tent poles 3 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/fix-broken-tent-poles-3.jpg) ### 2. Tent Stake Splint This method doesn’t work as well as the improvised repair sleeve because it puts more pressure on each side of the broken pole. However, it’s fast, easy, and holds up well enough to survive a night or two of camping. 1. Line up the broken ends of the pole. 2. Put a tent peg along them. 3. Wrap tape all around the peg to splint the broken poles together. You can see how the tent stake splint works in the graphic below. --- [![How to fix broken tent pole](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/how-to-fix-broken-tent-pole.jpg "how to fix broken tent pole - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/how-to-fix-broken-tent-pole.jpg) --- **Pro Tip: I always keep duct tape with me when camping.**  I have some of it wrapped around my lighter and more wrapped around one plastic water bottle. If you don’t have duct tape, you can use medical tape from your first aid kit. You do have one, right? If not, here’s [what to put in a camping first aid kit](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-first-aid-checklist/). You could also use lots of band-aids instead of duct tape. I haven’t tried this, but it should work. 🙂 ## **How to Fix Split Tent Poles** Fiberglass tent poles apparently often split lengthwise instead of snapping. **If just a short section at the very end of the pole is split,** just cut off the split part. Yes, this will shorten your tent poles. However, losing up to 5 inches of pole length usually won’t affect your tent functionality.  The tent might end up a bit lopsided, but should still stand. A mini saw works great for cutting fiberglass tent poles. Just be VERY careful not to saw through the cord going through the pole! First saw one side and then saw the other side so you don’t go through the cord. You can also use wire cutters. I tried using a knife. It worked but was annoying so switched back to wire cutters. ### **If the tent pole splits all the way up:** [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/split-tent-pole-2.jpg "split tent pole 2 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/split-tent-pole-2.jpg) Once a fiberglass tent pole starts to split lengthwise, it will keep on splitting upwards. You can see in the picture how much my tent pole split! To fix it, you will need to: **1. Cut off damaged ends.** If the ends of the tent pole are very damaged, just cut them off. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/cutting-split-tent-pole-2.jpg "cutting split tent pole 2 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/cutting-split-tent-pole-2.jpg)*The end of this pole was so shattered that I had to remove a few inches of it* **2. Wrap the split pole with duct tape. Do NOT wrap the end.** If you wrap the end, it won’t fit into the ferrule (the part that connects two pole sections).  Measure how much length needs to go in the ferrule and leave this unwrapped. **3. Insert into ferrule.** The unwrapped end of the pole goes into the ferrule as it normally would. If the pole end isn’t too damaged, you can probably skip step #4. **4. Apply splint or sleeve.** Use an improvised repair sleeve or splint to connect the ferrule and tent pole. This is optional, but it will strengthen the pole. You may need to remove the sleeve/splint when packing up the tent poles, though, since you won’t be able to fold them as normal. ## Broken Tent Pole FAQ: Can you still use a tent with a broken pole? Yes, a properly splinted broken pole will hold up well enough for a night or two until you can replace it. The DIY water bottle sleeve method described above is strong enough to get through a weekend camping trip in normal conditions. What you want to avoid is high wind, a splinted pole is weaker than an intact one and more likely to fail under stress. If a storm is coming, take the tent down and sleep in your car rather than trusting a field repair in bad weather. When should you replace a tent pole instead of repairing it? Replace rather than repair when: the pole has snapped in multiple places, the fiberglass has shattered into splinters (not just split), or the pole is so short after cutting off damaged sections that the tent won’t pitch properly. A single pole section costs $10–20 from most tent manufacturers, most brands sell replacement poles for their specific tent models. If your tent uses standard diameter poles, a universal replacement section from a camp store will work. If the pole is more than 5 years old and already showing stress fractures, replacement is almost always better than repair. ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [Calculate How Long It Will Take to Complete a Hike](https://momgoescamping.com/how-long-complete-hike/) **Published:** December 6, 2024 **Author:** Diane **Content:** When I first started going hiking and backpacking, I was really bad at calculating how long the hike would take. Once, this resulted in my group arriving at base camp after nightfall. We were lucky that no one sprained their ankles while walking in the dark. Now I’ve learned my lesson and always use this formula to calculate how long a hike will take. **Quick Answer:** If you are fairly fit and the conditions are mild (no snow, ice, or slick mud), expect it to take 20 minutes for each mile plus 60 minutes for every 2,000 feet of ascent. If you are hiking with a heavy pack, then calculate 30 minutes for each mile plus 60 minutes for every 1,000 feet of ascent. Don’t forget to add time for breaks into these calculations. **Important:** Hikes can take longer than you expect, or injuries can happen, causing you to spend an unplanned night in the wilderness. That’s why you must [always bring these emergency items hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-packing-list/). ## Naismith’s Rule Naismith’s Rule was devised by a Scottish mountaineer in the 1890s to calculate how long a hike would take. Even though some hikers have come up with their own modifications to the rule, it is still one of the most common guidelines used to calculate how long a hike will take. Note that the rule is made assuming that you will be hiking on a trail or footpath of some kind, and the hike will be of moderate difficulty. The rule is as follows: **Allow 20 minutes for every 1 mile forward PLUS 60 minutes for every 2000 feet of ascent** For example, the Phelps Lake trail in the Grand Tetons is 4.7 miles and has an elevation gain of 965 feet. Based on the Naismith rule, you would calculate that it would take 123 minutes to complete. Here’s how the math looks like: (20 minutes x 4.7 miles) + (965ft/2000ft) x 60 minutes = 123 minutes ## Adjustments for Fitness Level, Conditions, and Duration There are a lot of situations where Naismith’s rule doesn’t hold up. Your fitness level obviously comes into play. The hiking conditions, such as if the trails are clear, snowy, icy, or slick, will affect how long it takes. There’s also the issue that hikers tend to slow down over time due to fatigue: you’ll hike faster in the first hour than you will in the 5th and so forth. “Tranter’s Corrections” is a method of calculating for these factors. It is based on Naismith’s Rule but adjusts accordingly. **Here’s how it works:** - First calculate using Naismith’s rule. - Then look at the chart below. - Find how long Naismith’s rule said it would take in the top row of numbers and the adjustment according to your fitness level. - You can also adjust based on terrain or weather. If conditions are tough, then drop a fitness level. For very tough conditions, drop multiple fitness levels. | Fitness Level (min per 1,000ft/½ mile) | Naismith’s Time (hours) | |---|---| | | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 12 | 14 | 16 | 18 | 20 | 22 | 24 | | **15 (very fit)** | 1 | 1.5 | 2 | 2.75 | 3.5 | 4.5 | 5.5 | 6.75 | 7.75 | 10 | 12.5 | 14.5 | 17 | 19.5 | 22 | 24 | | **20** | 1.25 | 2.25 | 3.25 | 4.5 | 5.5 | 6.5 | 7.75 | 8.75 | 10 | 12.5 | 15 | 17.5 | 20 | 23 | — | — | | **25** | 1.5 | 3 | 4.25 | 5.5 | 7 | 8.5 | 10 | 11.5 | 13.25 | 15 | 17.5 | Too much to be attempted | | **30** | 2 | 3.5 | 5 | 6.75 | 8.5 | 10.5 | 12.5 | 14.5 | Too much to be attempted | | **40** | 2.75 | 4.25 | 5.75 | 7.5 | 9.5 | 11.5 | Too much to be attempted | | **50 (unfit)** | 3.25 | 4.75 | 6.5 | 8.5 | Too much to be attempted | Fitness level is determined by how long it takes you to climb 1,000 feet over ½ mile. Find your fitness level in the left column and Naismith’s estimated time along the top row, then read across/down to find your corrected time. **For example:** If Naismith’s rule calculated it would take you 3 hours to complete a hike and you are insanely fit, then you could adjust that it would only take you 1.5 hours. By contrast, if you were very unfit (or the conditions are going to be terrible), you’d adjust to 4.75 hours. ## Don’t Forget to Factor in Breaks! Naismith’s Rule does NOT include time for breaks. When I’m hiking with adults, we generally will stop every 20 to 30 minutes. When I’m hiking with my kids, we make a break every 10 minutes or so. ## Hiking Time with a Full Backpack Naismith’s Rule is for *day hikes*. It isn’t meant to be used for backpacking through the woods to your base camp. Obviously, it is going to take you a LOT longer to walk when you’ve got a huge pack on your back. With backpacking gear and on moderate terrain, use this formula: **Allow 30 minutes for every 1 mile forward PLUS 60 minutes for every 1000 feet of ascent** ## Adjusting for Hikes with Children Last summer I went hiking with my daughter who is 5 years old. The hike was 2.3 miles and had an elevation gain of 1,200 feet. Based on Naismith’s Rule, it should have taken us about 1 hour 20 minutes. It took us over 2 ½ hours! That’s why the second part of Naismith’s Rule is “calculate speed based on the slowest person.” If you want to take your small kids hiking, go for it. But I’d recommend *doubling the time* it would probably take you. Even then, you’ve got to be prepared to turn around and not make it to the destination. Or, if you are backpacking towards base camp, be prepared to set up camp wherever you can reach. **Also read: [how far can kids hike?](https://momgoescamping.com/how-far-can-kids-hike/)** **Want gourmet meals on the trail?** My dehydrator recipes ebook has 50+ calorie-dense backpacking recipes, just add hot water. **[Get it here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck)** ![dehydrated backpacking meals](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/gallery-min.jpg)These are the types of meals I’m eating when I backpack. They pack in over 130 calories per ounce dry weight. Just add water to rehydrate! ## How Long Does It Take You to Do a Hike? Let us know in the comments below what trail you’re planning, and whether Naismith’s Rule matched your real time on the ground. ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking **Tags:** hiking distance, hiking time, planning --- ### [How to Remove a Tick without Tweezers or a Tool](https://momgoescamping.com/remove-tick-without-tweezers/) **Published:** May 21, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** According to the CDC, the [best way to remove a tick](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-remove-tick/) once it’s bitten is with fine-pointed tweezers.  The pointy tip allows you to grasp a tick close to its head.  You then pull upwards in a slow, steady motion. When done correctly, the tick will come out without regurgitating its body contents into the wound and without its head breaking off. ## Keep a Tick Removal Tool with You At All Times! After being bit by ticks for the umpteenth time, I starting carrying a tick removal tool with me at all times.  I personally carry [these mini tweezers](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Z7L0GMY/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00Z7L0GMY&linkId=cd379fc6e0ae328657d11e39c04285fe) with me in my wallet and, for hiking, I have [these larger pointy tweezers](http://amzn.to/2Bj4TLl) in my first aid kit.  There are also many keychain tick removal tools which make it easy to keep a tool with you at all times, though they aren’t as good as pointy tweezers for removing nymph ticks. **Read: [Best Tick Removal Tools for Humans](https://momgoescamping.com/tick-removal-tools-humans/)** [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/mini-tick-tweezers-in-wallet.jpg "mini tick tweezers in wallet - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/mini-tick-tweezers-in-wallet.jpg)*I keep mini pointy tweezers in my wallet so I always have them with me  Yes  my wallet is ridiculous 🙂*[![backpacking first aid kit](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/hiking-first-aid-kit.jpg "hiking first aid kit - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/hiking-first-aid-kit.jpg)*These better pointy tweezers are in the first aid kit I always take on hikes They are awesome for ticks splinters and thorns* ## Can I Remove a Tick with My Fingers? Once it has bitten you, removing a tick with your fingers is a very bad idea. You could end up squishing the tick and pushing its body contents into your skin (and thus increasing the likelihood of disease transmission).  On top of this, removing a tick increases the likelihood that the head will break off.  While this doesn’t increase the likelihood of getting disease, having a tick head stuck in your skin is gross and can cause a lot of redness and irritation. Because of these reasons, it is often better to **wait until you can get a proper tick removal tool instead of removing the tick with your fingers.** But it’s also important to get ticks off of you as soon as possible: the less time they are on you, the less likely it is that the tick will transmit disease.  So, if you *really* can’t get to a tick tool soon, you might try one of the DIY tick tools below for removing a tick without tweezers. **Read: [How to Remove a Tick Head Stuck in Your Skin](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-remove-a-tick-head-stuck-in-your-skin/)** ## Ways to Remove a Tick without Tweezers There really aren’t many goods ways to remove ticks without tweezers or tick removal tools.  I do NOT recommend any of these methods.  However, if you really can’t get pointy tweezers – such as if you are hiking in the middle of nowhere – you can make your own DIY tick tools with these methods. ### 1. Plastic Drinking Straw with Notch Cut in It This works best with rigid/firm straws.  Most straws are too soft and will bend when you try to pull the tick out.  The orange straw in this picture, for example, was really flexible.  The pink one worked better in my tests.[![straw tick removal tool](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/straw-tick-removal-tool.jpg "straw tick removal tool - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/straw-tick-removal-tool.jpg) **To make a tick tool out of a straw:** - Cut the end of a plastic drinking straw at an angle. - Next cut a V-shaped notch into the longer/bottom side of the angle you just cut. - Put the notch around the tick so the bottom of the V is over its mouthparts. - Use a gentle scooping motion to lift the tick out. ### 2. Plastic Spoon Tool ![diy tick removal spoon](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/diy-tick-removal-spoon.jpg "diy tick removal spoon - Mom Goes Camping") You can make your own tick removal spoon.  Because the plastic is so thick, it doesn’t work as well as the straw method on nymph ticks or ticks which aren’t engorged yet.  But, because the plastic is rigid, it holds its shape better than a DIY tool made from a soft straw. **To make the DIY tick spoon:** - Using scissors, cut a V-shaped notch into a plastic spoon. - Put the notch around the tick so the bottom of the V is over its mouthparts. You may need to press down on your skin to position it properly. - Use a gentle scooping motion to lift the tick out. ### 3. DIY Credit Card Tick Removal Tool ![diy tick removal card](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/diy-tick-removal-card.jpg "diy tick removal card - Mom Goes Camping") You can cut also cut a V-shaped notch in a credit card to make your own extraction tool. However, because credit cards are flat, it doesn’t work as well as a notch cut into curved plastic (such as a straw or spoon).  It’s actually not that easy to cut a perfect notch into plastic with scissors.  You’ll notice from the picture that I had to do it twice!                                                             **Heading out soon?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup — print them before you go. **[                                                                  Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** ### 4.  Thread, Dental Floss or Fishing Line This method of getting a tick out without tweezers works well on tiny nymph ticks or ones which aren’t fully engorged yet. **To remove a tick with thread:** - Gently tie a loop around the tick. - Make sure the loop is positioned as low down as possible. You want it around the tick’s mouthparts and not its body. - Tighten the loop. Be careful that you don’t tighten too much.  You don’t want to cut the tick’s body off with the thread. - Holding both sides of the thread, and pull upwards and slightly outwards in a steady motion. ### 5. Strand of Hair If you can’t find any thread or dental floss, I’ve heard that you can use a strand of hair instead.  Personally, I’m not sure this would work well with my super-fine hair.  It would probably break without getting the tick out. But, if you have thick, strong hair, it might work as well as the dental floss method above. ### 6. Two Thin, Sturdy Edges You can take two sturdy edges and use these to grasp the tick and pull it out.  Options include credit cards, long fingernails or even two knife blades. You’ll need to hold the object at an angle so the edges are as close to the tick head as possible.  Then you’ll need to lift both objects at the exact same time and speed. You’ll need to have VERY sturdy hands to do this, so I don’t recommend it. ### 7. Improvised DIY Tick Tweezers ![homemade tick removal tweezers](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/diy-tick-tweezers.jpg "diy tick tweezers - Mom Goes Camping") It is actually pretty easy to make your own tweezers.  You basically need two objects to use as the sides of the tweezers (such as popsicle sticks or chopsticks), a rubber band to hold them together at one end, and a roll of paper to stick between them. The problem is that you need pointy tweezers to safely remove a tick.  So, you’ll have to attach something thin and pointy to the ends of your improvised tweezers. I used sewing needles but unbent paperclips would also work.  It’s really important that the tweezer ends are sturdy and line up well. Otherwise they won’t grasp the tick well.  Practice pulling on small objects with your tweezers a few times before trying to remove the tick. ## Never Remove a Tick with: - Nail polish remover - Essential oils - Vaseline - Hot matches All of these methods irritate or attempt to suffocate the tick in hopes that it will come out on its own.  While they may get the tick out, they increase the chance that the tick will regurgitate into the wound – thus increasing the chances of disease transmission.   Use a tick tool instead! \## Can You Use These Methods to Remove a Tick from a Dog? Yes, the same DIY methods work on dogs. The straw notch and thread methods are the most practical since they work close to the skin without needing to part fur. A few dog-specific notes: – Part the fur first so you can clearly see the tick’s mouthparts before attempting removal – Hold your dog still, have someone help you if needed – Same rules apply: don’t squeeze the body, pull steadily upward, don’t use Vaseline or matches – Check the bite site over the following weeks for redness or swelling – Contact your vet if your dog develops lethargy, loss of appetite, or a fever in the weeks after a tick bite — these can be signs of tick-borne illness in dogs ## Tick Removal FAQ: How long does a tick have to be attached to transmit Lyme disease? For the most common Lyme-transmitting tick (the black-legged tick, also called the deer tick), the tick generally needs to be attached for 36–48 hours before it can transmit the Lyme bacteria. This is why finding and removing ticks promptly is so important, a tick found and removed within 24 hours is very unlikely to have transmitted Lyme disease. Other tick-borne diseases like Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever can transmit more quickly, so prompt removal matters regardless of tick species. What should I do after removing a tick? Clean the bite area thoroughly with rubbing alcohol or soap and water. Don’t crush the tick! Put it in a sealed bag or container with a damp paper towel, or tape it to a piece of paper. Note the date you found it and save the tick for 30 days in case you develop symptoms, some labs can test ticks for disease. Watch the bite site for the next 3–30 days for a bullseye rash (which indicates Lyme disease) or flu-like symptoms. See a doctor if either appears. Read more about preventing ticks below: [Keeping Ticks Out of Your Tent](https://momgoescamping.com/keep-ticks-out-of-tent/) **Do you know of any other SAFE tricks for removing ticks without tweezers? Let us know in the comments section below.** Pin this! ![remove tick without tweezers](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/how-to-remove-tick-without-tweezers-pin-long.jpg "how to remove tick without tweezers pin long - Mom Goes Camping") --- ###### Title image credit: “[Tick on Finger](https://www.flickr.com/photos/a-benn/197572898/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [Alex.Benn](https://www.flickr.com/people/a-benn/) Sources: <https://www.mtascutneyhospital.org/news-events/article/ticks-and-lyme-disease-what-you-need-know>, <https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/finding-the-tick-in-time-could-save-you-from-lyme-2017022411241>, <https://fairfieldtickcontrol.com/2020/11/23/can-you-squish-a-tick-with-your-fingers/> ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety **Tags:** ticks --- ### [Tick Bite Itches Like Crazy! What It Means (and Whether You Need to Worry)](https://momgoescamping.com/tick-bite-itches/) **Published:** May 27, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** **Quick Answer:** Tick bites itch because of chemicals in tick saliva that trigger an immune response. This is normal and not a sign of Lyme disease. The itch usually lasts a few days to two weeks. Relieve it with hydrocortisone cream, baking soda paste, or activated charcoal poultice. It’s bad enough to get a tick bite.  Not only is it gross to have a parasite feeding off you, but you’ve also got to vigilantly pay attention to the bite spot to make sure a Lyme disease rash (see [these pictures](https://momgoescamping.com/lyme-disease-rash-photos/)) doesn’t form. Some people experience another issue after bites: The tick bite itches like crazy.  If you have an itchy tick bite and are worried that this is a sign of Lyme disease, here is what you need to know. Tick bites usually don’t itch. --- **Heading out soon?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup, print them before you go. **[Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** --- ## Tick Bites *Usually* Don’t Itch… If you’ve got an itchy tick bite, then it’s probably annoying that many major health websites say that tick bites don’t cause itchiness.  [EverydayHealth](https://www.everydayhealth.com/bug-bites/tick-bites/) says, “Unlike the bites of mosquitoes and other insects, tick bites do not tend to cause itching or immediate skin irritation.”  [WebMD](https://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/is-that-a-tick-bite) simply says that a tick bite “isn’t usually itchy” and [Seattle Children’s Hospital](https://www.seattlechildrens.org/conditions/a-z/tick-bite/) bluntly states that “A tick bite does not cause pain or itch.” Despite what these health websites say, **itchy tick bites are common – especially if you get bit by ticks often.** ## Why do Tick Bites Itch for so Long? Like with other parasites that feed on blood, ticks have chemicals in their saliva.  The chemicals act as anesthetics and histamine blockers.  Normally, these chemicals will prevent you from feeling any pain or itchiness so the tick can feed freely, but some people experience a reaction to the tick saliva which causes itchiness. In some rare cases, an itchy tick bite is an allergic reaction to chemicals in the tick’s saliva. However, ticks have had millions of years to evolve their saliva to prevent reactions. Crazily, ticks actually adjust the chemicals in their saliva as they are attached, so your immune system (usually) won’t be able to detect them! ( [1](https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/07/the-marvels-of-tick-saliva/594652/), [2](https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/09/150925131412.htm)) ### The More Frequently You Get Bit By Ticks, the More Likely It is to Itch Here’s where things get really cool.  If you get bit by ticks often, it’s more likely that your tick bites will itch. After getting bit by a tick multiple times, **your immune system starts to recognize proteins in the tick saliva**.  Even the tick’s cool trick of adjusting the chemicals won’t work anymore: Your body will realize that there’s a foreign invader in it and start mounting an immune response.  That immune response can cause redness, inflammation and itchiness at the tick bite site.  The clinical term for this is “*acquired cutaneous hypersensitivity response*.” One [study published in Emerging Infectious Disease (EID)](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3294369/)  found that the probability of itch doubled as the number of reported tick bites increased.  After the first tick bite there was a 21% probability of itchiness.  After the second bite, the probability increased to 46%.  **After the fourth tick bite, there was a 97% probability of experiencing itchiness!** ### Embedded Tick Heads Also Cause Itchiness Another reason that your tick bite might itch is that the head broke off while you were removing it.  Speaking from experience, a tick head stuck in your skin will cause inflammation and a lot of itchiness. If you see a little black dot in the wound, it’s probably the mouthparts.   There’s no reason to panic. Here is [how to remove a tick head stuck in your skin](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-remove-a-tick-head-stuck-in-your-skin/). [![tick head stuck in skin](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/tick-head-stuck-in-skin.jpg "tick head stuck in skin - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/tick-head-stuck-in-skin.jpg) ## Is An Itchy Tick Bite a Sign of Lyme Disease? If the bite site feels itchy immediately after removing the tick or in the days afterwards, there’s no need to worry: it is *not* a sign of Lyme disease.  In fact, the study published in EID found that people who experienced itchiness after tick bite had a *lower* chance of Lyme disease. The researchers hypothesize that this is because ticks which cause itch will be noticed and removed sooner.  The immune reaction which causes itchiness might also help prevent Lyme disease. **Important:** Having an itchy tick bite doesn’t mean you don’t have Lyme disease. It just isn’t a *sign* of Lyme.  Tick bite itchiness is usually mild. If you have severe itchiness or it lasts for a long time, play it safe and call your doctor. **If you remove a tick within 24 hours of it biting, the chances of getting Lyme are very low –** but you must remove the tick properly! I like [these pointy tweezers](https://amzn.to/3Z2MosK). **Also read:** - [How to Remove a Tick Once It’s Bitten You](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-remove-tick/) - [Best Tick Removal Tools](https://momgoescamping.com/tick-removal-tools-humans/) [![tweezers tick removal tool](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/tickease.jpg "tickease - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/tickease.jpg) ## What Can I Put on a Tick Bite to Stop It from Itching? For itchy tick bites, I usually use an **activated charcoal poultice.** The activated charcoal (AC) pulls chemicals out of the skin.  AC is very useful, so it’s something I always keep in my first aid kit anyway for things like upset stomach. You can buy it in bulk for pretty cheap [here.](https://amzn.to/3SEaWrs) ![poultice for tick bites pain relief](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/poultice-for-tick-bites.jpg "poultice for tick bites - Mom Goes Camping") **To make the poultice:** 1. Mix a equal parts of activated [charcoal ](https://amzn.to/3SEaWrs)and flaxmeal in a cup. Add just enough water to get a gooey consistency. The flaxmeal is optional, but helps the poultice get a better constitency. 2. Spread the mixture on a piece of gauze.  Fold it into a little packet. 3. Place the packet on the tick bite site. 4. Wrap some plastic wrap around the packet.  This will help the poultice stay in place and keep it from getting messy. **No activated [charcoal?](https://amzn.to/3SEaWrs) You can also use these remedies for an itcy tick bite:** - **Broadleaf plantain poultice**: Plantain is a weed which is probably growing in your yard right now.  You just mash it up before using it in a poultice. Don’t use the plantain which looks like a banana. 🙂 - **Lavender poultice:** I haven’t tried this but a lot of people say it works for tick bites. - **Tea tree oil:** Just put a few drops on bite site. - **OTC hydrocortisone creams** - **Baking soda:** Mix some with water to make a paste and apply over the tick bite site. ## Tick Bite Itching FAQ: How long does a tick bite itch? For most people, a tick bite itch lasts anywhere from a few days to two weeks after the tick is removed. The itching comes from your immune response to chemicals in the tick’s saliva, once those chemicals clear from the skin, the itch fades. If a tick head broke off during removal, the itch may persist longer until the mouthparts work their way out or are removed. Itch that gets progressively worse after a week, or is accompanied by spreading redness, warmth, or a bullseye pattern, warrants a call to your doctor. Should I be worried if a tick bite itches? Not necessarily, itching is actually a sign your immune system is working and may even indicate a lower risk of Lyme disease, as people who react to tick bites tend to notice and remove ticks sooner. What you should watch for are the signs that indicate something more serious: a bullseye-shaped rash expanding from the bite site (Lyme disease), a solid red rash that spreads rapidly (possible infection), fever and flu-like symptoms within 30 days of the bite, or severe swelling or pain at the bite site. Itching alone without any of these signs is not cause for concern. **Do tick bites make you itchy? What do you do about it? Let us know in the comments section below.** --- Other resource for this article: <https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0091674920324131> Title image credit: “[Tick bite wound](https://www.flickr.com/photos/amccy/2433142163/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [rosaamarilla](https://www.flickr.com/people/amccy/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety **Tags:** ticks --- ### [Camping at Gjipe Beach in Southern Albania](https://momgoescamping.com/gjipe-beach-albania/) **Published:** October 5, 2016 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Southern Albania is full of semi-secret beaches with crystal-clear water, smooth rocks, and alcove caves.  It will absolutely take your breath away – and bear in mind that this is coming from someone who generally despises beaches (I prefer mountains 🙂 ). **Heading out on a trip like this?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup. **[Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** The only problem is that Albania is lacking infrastructure and good luck finding many people that speak English.  But, for the intrepid traveler, the trip to Albania is very worth it.  It is definitely one of my favorite countries to travel in and I’d recommend getting to Albania before everyone figures out its secret and it becomes overrun with tourists. One of the best places to visit in Southern Albania is Gijipe beach and canyon (pronounced gee-pay).  We spent a night camping there and here’s what you need to know to do the same. ## Getting to Gjipe Beach As far as infrastructure goes, Albania is getting better – but the roads are still in bad condition and places and you won’t find tourist information anywhere (heck, I couldn’t even find a place to buy postcards!). If you are going to Gjipe beach, then Dhermi or Himare are probably your starting points. It is 8km from Dhermi and 16km from Saranda. ![Gjipe beach map](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/gjipe-beach-map.jpg "gjipe-beach-map - Mom Goes Camping") And here’s a satellite version of the same map. ![Gjipe beach satellite map](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/gjipe-map-satellite.jpg "gjipe-map-satellite - Mom Goes Camping") ### **Directions for Getting to Gjipe Beach:** 1. **Turn at the sign for Manastiri i Shen Theodhorit:** It is really easy to miss the turn, so watch out for this sign! There is a sign for the beach, but you can only see it *after* you’ve turned. 2. **Drive 2.5km:** This is on an asphalt road. You will come to a parking lot. If you have a jeep, you can drive all the way down to the beach. 3. **Park:** The asphalt road will end at a parking lot. You have to pay to park (I think it was 200 leke).  There was a lady there collecting money for parking. 4. **Walk the last 1.5km:** The last part of the journey can only be made by foot or by jeep. The walk was beautiful with lots of bunkers along the way.  We got a ride back with a jeep and it was TERRIFYING. One mishap and you plunge off the cliff and into the sea. ### Options for Getting to Gjipe 1. **Your Own Car or Jeep** 2. **Take a Furgon or Bus:** Every bus that goes through Dhermi to Saranda will pass Gjipe. Just have the driver let you out at the turn for Gjipe. From the main road, it is a 4km walk to the beach.  Someone will probably give you a ride though. 3. **Hitchhike:** Hitchhiking in Albania is ridiculously easy because of how friendly the locals are to tourists. 4. **Befriend Some Locals:** This is what Isabel and I did. I told my new friends that I wanted to go camping at Gjipe, and they all decided to join.  Since one new friend had a car, we got a ride. 5. **Boat:** We saw one guy leave Gjipe this way. His friend just drove the boat up and picked him up.  Nice way to travel! ![The road to Gjipe, with lots of bunkers along the way](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/IMG_5520-1024x683.jpg "gjipe beach - Mom Goes Camping")The road to Gjipe with lots of bunkers along the way ![Isabel and I waiting to hitchhike a ride after leaving Gjipe beach. We got a ride in just 10 minutes. :)](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/IMG_5641-1024x683.jpg "getting to gjipe beach - Mom Goes Camping")Isabel and I waiting to hitchhike a ride after leaving Gjipe beach We got a ride in just 10 minutes 🙂 ### Hiking the Canyon to Gjipe Alternatively, you can get to Gjipe beach by hiking there through the canyon.  Considering that I have a 6 year old and the weather was potentially stormy, this is NOT something we did. The “path” through the canyon starts right near the main road.  There was a sign on where to go down to the path. Apparently the hike through Gjipe canyon is about 5km and very tough. You have to climb over lots of rocks along the way.  I also read that you need climbing gear for some of the steep parts! If you want to go into the canyon, it is probably best to first go to the beach, and then hike into the canyon from there. ![This is what the entrance to the canyon looks like from the beach](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/IMG_5542-1024x683.jpg "gjipe canyon - Mom Goes Camping")This is what the entrance to the canyon looks like from the beach The thunderstorm passed luckily ## What to Bring to Gjipe The trip to Gjipe can be done as a day trip.  If you have a tent though, I’d seriously recommend camping there for at least 1 night.  The beach and nature are beautiful.  Also, all the people we met at the beach were really fun.  I guess beautiful off-the-beaten-path places attract more interesting travelers. 🙂 To enjoy the trip to Gjipe, you will need: - **Water:** There were 2 cafes at Gjipe and they had water taps. However, this is not potable water.  You will either need to buy bottled water from them or bring your own.  I use the [Sawyer Mini water filter ](https://momgoescamping.com/sawyer-mini-water-filter-review/)so I could have asked the café people for water and filtered it for drinking. - **Swimming Stuff:** Don’t come here without your swimsuit. I guess you could swim naked, but Albania is a bit conservative. 😉 - **Money:** Just in case you decide to have a raki at one of the wild cafes on the beach! - **Food:** Or be prepared to pay for a simple meal in one of the cafes. - **Toilet Paper:** Do you need an explanation? 😉 ![We found an abandoned bag on the beach filled with nail polish and glitter!!! We used it to decorate rocks and shells. :)](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/IMG_5565-1024x683.jpg "gjipe beach - Mom Goes Camping")We found an abandoned bag on the beach filled with nail polish and glitter We used it to decorate rocks and shells 🙂 ![Making a bunny out of random things we found on the beach](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/IMG_5635-1024x683.jpg "gjipe beach - Mom Goes Camping")Making a bunny out of random things we found on the beach ![Cooking dinner over the hot coals](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/IMG_5583-1024x683.jpg "gjipe canyon and beach - Mom Goes Camping")Cooking dinner over the hot coals ![Beach fire and a crazy Albanian guy](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/IMG_5586-1024x683.jpg "camping at gjipe beach - Mom Goes Camping")Beach fire and a crazy Albanian guy ## The Cafes at Gjipe We came to Gjipe in late September, after the season is over.  My local Albanian friend was surprised to see that there were still 2 cafes working on the beach. One café was run by two older ladies.  They were really cute and we had coffee at their café.  The ladies also had two tents behind the café.  One tent they rent out to visitors who decide to stay.  Don’t count on the tent being free though.  If you want to spend the night, bring your own tent. ![Having a coffee at one of the beach cafes at Gjipe](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/IMG_5522-1024x683.jpg "gjipe beach cafe - Mom Goes Camping")Having a coffee at one of the beach cafes at Gjipe ![The nice lady who runs one of the cafes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/IMG_5531-1024x683.jpg "gjipe beach cafe - Mom Goes Camping")The nice lady who runs one of the cafes ![If you don't have your own tent, you can pay to sleep in their tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/IMG_5638-1024x683.jpg "camping gjipe - Mom Goes Camping")If you dont have your own tent you can pay to sleep in their tent ## Yes, There Are Latrines On the Beach Thank god that there were two latrines on the beach.  Otherwise there would be crap and toilet paper all over the place. Don’t expect much from the toilets.  Bring your own toilet paper or baby wipes. ## The Campground At Gjipe Beach There is a campground at Gjipe.  We came after the season had ended, so the campground had already closed.  That meant we got to sleep there for free.  Hooray for traveling out of season! The campground was fairly nice, with a decent amount of distance between the pitches.  The only main issue is that I didn’t see a water hookup anywhere.  So, you’ll need to bring water or buy it. Even out of season, there were still about 5 other tents at the campground.  They were fun.  One tent was 3 Kosovo boys who were smoking pot all day (which is what all the other Albanians were doing too).  Another tent had a Bulgarian couple who went rock climbing and brought a slackline walking strap with them.  We had fun trying it out too. ![The campground at Gjipe, after the season had ended](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/IMG_5598-1024x683.jpg "campground at Gjipe - Mom Goes Camping")The campground at Gjipe after the season had ended ![Hanging out around the fire with camping neighbors](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/IMG_5591-1024x683.jpg "gjipe camping - Mom Goes Camping")Hanging out around the fire with camping neighbors ![Walking the slackline that some fellow campers had with them](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/IMG_5617-944x1024.jpg "camping gjipe - Mom Goes Camping")Walking the slackline that some fellow campers had with them ## Where Else to Stay? If you just want to do Gjipe as a day trip, there are plenty of options.  Just look at booking.com and you’ll find tons of guesthouses in the nearby area.  Vuno is a good starting point.  You can also stay in Dhermi (which are actually on the beach, unlike Vuno) but the trip will be a bit longer. ## CAUTION!!!! In general, going to Gjipe is safe… but there are some things you need to be cautious about. ### Heavy Rains: The weather changes quickly on the sea.  If heavy rains come, the water will surge down the canyon and come out on the beach.  My friends told me about how some guys camping right next to the beach almost got washed away. DO NOT CAMP RIGHT NEXT TO THE BEACH. DO NOT GO HIKING IN THE CANYON IF IT IS ABOUT TO RAIN. DO NOT CAMP WHERE THE CANYON LETS OUT (see picture below) ![In this pic, you can kind of see where the heavy rains wash out of the canyon. Don't be in their way!](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/IMG_5537-1024x683.jpg "gjipe beach and canyon - Mom Goes Camping")In this pic you can kind of see where the heavy rains wash out of the canyon Dont be in their way ### Falling Rocks: Gjipe is right next to a canyon, and it is never wise to sleep right under a cliff.  A big ol’ rock can come crashing down on you. I asked the locals about this and they assured me that there was no danger of falling rocks.  One crazy local even wanted to sleep *inside* the canyon.  But these are the same Albanians who grow up scaling the pyramid in Tirana as children, so I think they have a different view of what is “safe” and not. 😉 ### Snakes: The Balkans have two poisonous snakes, both types of vipers.  Generally, you won’t see vipers at this low of an elevation.  However, you will probably see other snakes. In our first 3 minutes of walking into the canyon, we already saw a snake.  I love snakes, but I also know [**what to do if you see a snake**](https://momgoescamping.com/what-to-do-if-you-see-a-snake/) and [what to do if you get bitten by a snake](https://momgoescamping.com/what-to-do-bitten-by-snake/).  So remember to be mindful and don’t do stupid things like picking up rocks. ## Gjipe Beach FAQ Is Gjipe Beach worth visiting? Yes — it’s one of the most beautiful and least-crowded beaches in Southern Albania, with crystal-clear water, smooth rocks, and a dramatic canyon entrance. The combination of beach, canyon hike, and off-the-beaten-path atmosphere makes it genuinely special. The access hike is part of the experience. Can you camp at Gjipe Beach? Yes — there is a campground at Gjipe with individual pitches. It operates seasonally (roughly June–September), so if you visit out of season you may find it closed but also free and quiet. Bring your own water either way — the café water taps are not potable — and do not camp directly next to the beach or at the canyon mouth due to flash flood risk from heavy rain. No Crowds Yet… Albania is quickly shedding its false reputation as a “dangerous” place to travel and the developing infrastructure is making it more appealing to tourists. Right now, there still aren’t many crowds at Gjipe or Southern Albania, but this is bound to change soon.  So get to Gjipe while it is still off-the-beaten-path. ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Backpacking **Tags:** Albania --- ### [The Best Waterproof Women's Hiking Pants](https://momgoescamping.com/best-waterproof-womens-hiking-pants/) **Published:** May 17, 2017 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Having a good pair of waterproof pants has been a game-changer. Aside from being able to jump in puddles with my kids, it means I can go hiking in the rain during colder months without worrying that I’ll get drenched and end up [hypothermic](https://momgoescamping.com/hypothermia-treatment-wilderness/).  I also use them in summer for camping. I can stay outside during a downpour without worrying that having to deal with drenched clothes. Regardless of your budget, finding waterproof hiking pants for women can be tricky. There aren’t nearly as many options for women’s rain pants as men’s, and “unisex” waterproof hiking pants don’t always fit well. I’ll go over the best options for 2026, including cheap picks and higher-quality options. ## Quick Picks: Keep reading for full reviews and buying guide! - **Best Overall: [Berghaus Deluge](https://amzn.to/4bNUgSq)** – 3/4 zips plus snaps allow you to customize ventilation, the material is light but durable, they come in tons of sizes and don’t cost a fortune - **Runners Up: [REI Rainier Pants](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Drei%2Brainier%2Bwomen%2527s%26pagesize%3D90) and [Marmot Eco Precip](https://amzn.to/3UW4SHU)** – Full zip makes them easy to get on/off and they come in lots of sizes for great fit - **Budget pick: [iCreek Waterproof Pants](https://amzn.to/48yGimv)** – Probably the most breathable rain pants you’ll find at this price, plus have a boot zipper - **Non-black option: [Little Donkey](https://amzn.to/3WRhbry)** – Lighter color means you can see ticks crawling on you! **Get the complete camping toolkit:** The dehydrator recipes ebook + printable camping cheat sheets, bundled together for one low price. **[Get the bundle →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/Bundle)** ## Comparison \[table id=98 /\] ## Do You Even Need Waterproof Pants for Hiking? Fully waterproof pants are not very breathable. They are also made from a slick material, so you can’t wear them directly against your skin. You’ll need to have another layer underneath. If you wear rain pants while hiking in very hot, summer temperatures, you will end up sweaty and get wet from the inside-out. You are better off wearing water-resistant hiking pants. Downpours usually don’t last long in summer, so your water-resistant hiking pants will dry quickly after the rain passes. ### Waterproof hiking pants make sense if: - **Hiking in rainy spring or fall weather.** These seasons are cold, so sweatiness isn’t a big issue. Rains also tend to last a long time and there’s little chance of your layers drying without rain protection. - **Inactive.** Such as sitting around camp, since getting sweaty isn’t an issue. - **Waiting out a summer rain storm.** You can quickly pull on the waterproof pants, wait out the storm, and then take them off again when you re-start hiking. ## Why Do Some Waterproof Hiking Pants Cost So Much? My first rain pants were very cheap. They made crinkling sounds when I walked, had almost no breathability so I would get sweaty, and looked like MC Hammer pants. But, they kept me dry. I later found some very good waterproof hiking pants in a secondhand store. They retail for over $250 new (!!!). I still wouldn’t pay that much money, but now that I have them, I can understand why hardcore adventurers would be willing to pay so much for good waterproof pants. The expensive pants have features like high-breathability and ventilation, so I can keep them on while hiking instead of constantly taking pants on/off when the weather changes. They are *much* more comfortable and practical than my cheap rain pants! **You don’t need to spend a fortune on rain pants.** But be realistic. A $15 pair of pants will not be comfortable for serious hiking. For around $40-$60, you can get something very decent. **Pro Tip:** Check out [REI Outlet](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Frei-garage%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Drain%2Bpants%26r%3Dgender%253AWomen%2527s%26origin%3Dweb%26queryRule%3Doutlet-only%26ir%3Dq%253Arain%2Bpants%26sort%3Drelevance%26outlet%3Dtrue) for rain pants. You can often find really good gear at massive discounts. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/cheap-rain-pants.jpg "cheap rain pants - Mom Goes Camping")My cheap rain pants werent the most comfortable but they kept me dry working outdoors in cold rainy weather![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/expensive-rain-pants.jpg "expensive rain pants - Mom Goes Camping")These better quality waterproof pants have breathable material and side vents so I dont get sweaty when hiking ## Best Waterproof Women’s Hiking Pants Reviewed ### 1. [Berghaus Deluge Rain Pants](https://amzn.to/3n9C2Xm) ![berghaus deluge waterproof womens pants for hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/berghaus-deluge-pants.jpg) **Best for: Great ventilation and breathability, don’t cost a fortune** These are an all-around great pair of rain pants for women. They are comfortable to wear because of the 10,000 breathability rating. The material is a bit crinkly, but it is still soft. If you want a quieter pair, Berghaus also makes the [PacLite women’s rain pants](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001E5WGOS/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B001E5WGOS&linkId=ac0812767e1df78eda708f87306d4810) from Gore-Tex. They are pricier though and don’t seem as durable, but even more breathable. The two-way zipper goes all the way up to the waistband, so you can easily get them on/off. Unlike all of the other rain pants here, these ones have zippers *and* snaps. This means you can completely unzip them and just snap some areas closed, allowing even more customizable ventilation. **Pros** - Great waterproofness and breathability - 3/4 zips - Snaps for ventilation - Lots of sizes for good fit **Cons** - No pockets - Knees not articulated - Crinkly material **[Get Them Here](https://amzn.to/3n9C2Xm)** --- ### 2. [REI Rainier Rain Pants](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dtalusphere%2Bwomens%2Brain%2Bpants%26pagesize%3D90) ![REI Rainier waterproof pants for women](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/rei-rainier-waterproof-pants-for-women.jpg) **Best for: Full zip, great quality and fit** The standout feature of the REI Rainier pants is that they have a full zip going down the sides. This means you can easily get them on/off, even over muddy boots. The zip is covered to prevent leakage and there’s a snap to ensure the pants don’t unzip as you hike. REI doesn’t list the waterproof or breathability rating of these pants, but they are breathable enough to wear hiking. The two-way zipper also allows you to adjust the ventilation of the pants so you don’t end up all sweaty. As for the fit, the knees are articulated. There is Velcro around the waist for closing the pants but also allows you to adjust the size a bit. The main downside is that these rain pants are made from a thin material. They will rip easily if caught on thorns or sharp objects. **Pros** - Full zip on sides - Two zippered pockets - Adjustable waist - Four-way stretch material - Don’t make a crinkly sound - Lots of sizes **Cons** - Waterproof and breathability rating not listed - Thin material can easily rip **[Get Them Here](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dtalusphere%2Bwomens%2Brain%2Bpants%26pagesize%3D90)** --- ### 3. [Marmot Eco Precip Women’s Rain Pants](https://amzn.to/3UW4SHU) ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/marmot-precip-pants.jpg) **Best for: Full zip, great breathability, and thicker material than the REI Rainier pants** Here is another pair of full-zip waterproof women’s pants. They are very similar to the REI Rainier pants in terms of fit and features. The key difference is that the Marmot Eco Precip pants are made from a thicker material, so they are more durable against abrasion. However, the thicker material means they do have a crinkly sound as you walk. The Eco Precip pants are also more breathable. **Pros** - Full zip on sides - Very breathable - Two zippered pockets - Adjustable waist - Lots of sizes **Cons** - Make crinkly sound **[Get Them Here](https://amzn.to/3UW4SHU)** --- ### 4. [Little Donkey Rain Pants](https://amzn.to/3KjWQ6F) [![Little Donkey Andy Womens Waterproof Lightweight Rain Pants](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/31JrPabTEiL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BNBLM4RC?tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) **Best for: Affordable rain pants which come in colors** At first glance, the Little Donkey rain pants seem great. They don’t look as dorky as most women’s rain pants, and they have zippers. However, the breathability is terrible (albeit better than super-cheap rain pants). Annoyingly, the 3/4 zipper is only one-direction: you can’t leave a gap in it for ventilation. It’s really only to make getting the pants on/off. So, why are these pants worth considering? They are one of the only decent rain pants that come in non-black colors. I’ve started wearing lighter colors when hiking because I can see ticks crawling on me. If you are in a heavily tick-infested area, these pants are better than black ones! **Pros** - Light colors (can spot ticks!) - 3/4 zipper - Comfortable fit - Zippered and elasticized waist - Faux Pockets **Cons** - Poor breathability - Not great quality **[Get Them Here](https://amzn.to/3KjWQ6F)** --- ### 5. [iCreek Waterproof Pants](https://amzn.to/48yGimv) [![iCreek Women's Rain Pants Waterproof Hiking Pants](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/31WhbDMZZ0L._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B1Q7W967?tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) **Best for: Cheap rain pants which have side zips and okay breathability** As expected from cheap rain pants, these are quite crinkly and the fit isn’t the best – they are quite baggy. But, unlike with other cheap rain pants for women, these ones actually list their waterproof rating (8,000mm) and breathability (5,000g). The breathability is better than the Little Donkey rain pants above, but they don’t have the 1/2 length zipper for easy on/off. They also come in some light colors, so you can spot ticks crawling on you. If you only need to wear these occasionally, and aren’t doing strenuous hiking, they will get the job done. **Pros** - Cheap - Multiple color options - Zippered leg opening - Velcro cuffs - Pockets - Mesh lining **Cons** - Baggy fit - Crinkly sound - Not very durable **[Get Them Here](https://amzn.to/48yGimv)** --- ### 6. [Acme Projects Rain Pants](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07T4G2YNS/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07T4G2YNS&linkId=58f220599e15b510084e397e36de02db) ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/acme-rain-pants.jpg "acme-rain-pants - Mom Goes Camping") **Best for: Very cheap rain pants with high waterproof rating** These rain pants aren’t the best, but the price is very affordable. They aren’t as cheap as the Pakka rain pants but they have a much higher waterproof rating of 10,000mm. The material is fairly durable so will withstand some abrasion. The breathability rating of 3,000 also isn’t bad considering the low price. The pants do come in women’s sizes but they are unisex, so expect them to fit baggy. The knees aren’t articulated so the range of motion isn’t great either. Still, for the price, they do their job. **Pros** - High waterproof rating - Affordable **Cons** - Baggy fit - No leg zippers - Make some noise as you walk **[Get Them Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07T4G2YNS/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07T4G2YNS&linkId=58f220599e15b510084e397e36de02db)** --- ## Features in Women’s Waterproof Hiking Pants Not sure which rain pants to get? Here’s a buying guide which covers the main things you need to consider, including materials, waterproof ratings, breathability and other important things to consider. ### Leg Zippers For me, zippers going up the legs of the rain pants is a must-have feature. Having 3/4 or full-length zippers allows you to get the pants on/off easily, especially over muddy or wet boots. This is important if you plan on pulling the pants on/off when a downpour occurs. Boot-length zippers are better than no zipper, but you will likely get your pants muddy putting them on. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/kari-traa-base-layers.jpg "kari traa base layers - Mom Goes Camping")*The zip makes it easy to get these waterproof pants onoff* ### Ventilation True waterproof pants are not very breathable. When hiking in them, you will end up sweaty. If you don’t feel like constantly taking the rain pants on/off, then you will need ventilation. There are two types: - **Two-way zippers:** Some rain pants with 3/4 or full-length zippers have two-way zippers. That means you can open a section of the pant leg. - **Snaps:** This allows for a very customizable amount of ventilation because you can completely unzip the pant legs, but snap as many or few areas closed. ![wearing rain pants with two way zippers for ventilation](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/expensive-rain-pants-2.jpg ".JPG - Mom Goes Camping")*These pants have a 2 way zipper so I could open the middle section for ventilation* ### Number of Layers in the Waterproof Pants Waterproof pants are usually made out of layered materials. The outer layer is a waterproof fabric whereas the inner layer is a fabric lining. Sometimes there is a membrane between the layers for added breathability. The more layers a rain pant has, the more durable it will be. However, the layers make the pants thicker and louder. The layers also restrict movement. Two-layer rain pants have better movement but are sometimes very thin and tear easily. ### Belt vs. Elastic Waist I prefer an integrated belt on rain pants. It makes the rain pants look more like everyday pants, so you could wear them around town without feeling too geeky. The downside is that the belt can interfere with your backpack hip straps, and the fit isn’t always as good as with elastic. ### Range of Motion If you do any climbing on your hikes, you’ll need rain pants which have articulated knees. Otherwise the knee area will get worn out too quickly. You’ll also need stretchier materials which, unfortunately, usually means paying more for a good brand of pants like those from REI. ### Color (Tick Visibility) I try to wear light-colored clothes when hiking through tall grasses or other tick-infested areas. It is easier to spot them on light-colors, and remove them before they bite me. I’ve included a couple rain pants that are available in lighter colors for this reason. Unfortunately, almost all really good women’s rain pants for hiking come in just black. ### The “Dorky Factor” In theory, the appearance of your rain pants shouldn’t matter. It’s more important to stay dry than look cool. But I also wear my rain pants around town. And sometimes I’ll go for a beer after a hike. It can be a bit embarrassing to enter the bar wearing rain pants which look like parachute pants from the 90s! My daughter gets really embarrassed when her mom shows up decked out in rain gear. If you want to wear your rain pants in situations besides hiking, no one will blame you for buying a cool-looking pair. Choose ones with zippered waists and articulated knees as they won’t look so much like parachute pants. 🙂 ## Waterproof Hiking Pants FAQ ### Do I really need waterproof pants for hiking? Only if you’re hiking in cold, wet conditions or plan to be inactive outdoors for a while. For summer hikes, water-resistant pants that dry fast are usually the better call — full waterproof pants trap sweat. ### What’s the difference between waterproof and water-resistant hiking pants? Waterproof pants use a sealed membrane that blocks all moisture but sacrifices breathability. Water-resistant pants repel light rain and dry quickly but won’t hold up in a downpour. ### How much should I spend on waterproof hiking pants? $40-60 gets you something genuinely comfortable for regular hikes. Cheaper pairs (under $20) work fine for occasional use but sacrifice breathability and durability. **Want to learn more about hiking in the rain? Read:** - **[How to stay dry hiking in the rain](https://momgoescamping.com/stay-dry-hiking-rain/)** - **[How to keep your feet dry hiking in the rain](https://momgoescamping.com/keep-feet-dry-hiking/)** - **[Essential hiking packing list](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-packing-list/)** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** rain, spring --- ### [Best Camping Cookware Sets, As Chosen By an Outdoorsy Mom](https://momgoescamping.com/best-camping-cookware-sets/) **Published:** December 3, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** While you can bring your normal cookware camping, it can cause a lot of hassle.  Normal cookware doesn’t pack well, sometimes won’t even fit on your stove and you can forget about campfire cooking.  So, if you go camping often enough, it is really worth it to get a good camping cookware set. Which camping cook set to get? It really depends on the type of camping you do.  Here, I’ve broken down the best camp cookware  by complete sets, pots and pan sets, and cast iron cookware. If you aren’t sure how to choose, check out the buying guide after the reviews. ## Quick Picks: - **Best Complete Camping Cookware Sets for:** - **2 People: [MSR Quick 2 Pot Set](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008NOP21C/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B008NOP21C&linkId=1c1ceffec1eaa62ec9e1c45484cba60a)** - **3-4 People: [GSI Pinnacle](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006ERS6OU/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B006ERS6OU&linkId=2ba07efae31ac30b52defa9a666806c4)** - **4-6 People: [Odoland 39pcs Set](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07TBK5KHK/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07TBK5KHK&linkId=f5d0f54291bb970c382313b4ccc9c9af)** - **Backpacking: [Snow Peak Trek 1400](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000AR2N3U/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B000AR2N3U&linkId=68cbe9e57168c0e8711be0658955125f)** - **Best Camping Pots and Pans Set: [Stanley Even Heat Cookware Set](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B084G7PLRC/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B084G7PLRC&linkId=22b56e0f970caafbf2ad2db703265837)** - **Best Cast Iron Camp Cookware: [Lodge Cook-It-All](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NLKLFNB/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07NLKLFNB&linkId=bac069923c23668a2e04e9f72ab69841)** \*See this post if you are looking for [lightweight cookware for backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/best-backpacking-pots/). ## Best Complete Camping Cookware Sets These sets include camping pots and pans as well as bowls, plates, and utensils which all nestle into the pots. **Pro tip:** Get a larger set than you think you need.  Then you’ll have extra plates in case friends join, or you can remove some of the items from the cook set to fit other kitchen gear. ### 1. GSI Pinnacle Camper Cook Set [![gsi outdoors pinnacle 4 person camp cookware set](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/gsi-outdoors-4-person-camp-cookware-set.jpg "gsi outdoors 4 person camp cookware set - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/gsi-outdoors-4-person-camp-cookware-set.jpg) **Best for:** Minimalist family camping - **Includes:** 3L pot with lid, 2L pot with lid, fry pan, pot gripper, 4 plates, 4 bowls, 4 insulated mugs with lids, stuff sack/sink - **Serves:** 4 people - **Material:** Anodized aluminum with Teflon coating - **Handle:** Removable - **Weight:** 3lbs 10oz This is one of the best designed camping cook sets you will find.  Everything nestles in it wonderfully.  The cups and bowls are 14oz, which is actually a decent size.  If you get folding utensils, you can fit them inside the mugs when everything is empty. Note that this cook set is almost identical to the GSI Bugaboo set.  The difference is that the Bugaboo set is Teflon-coated aluminum whereas the Pinnacle is Teflon-coated anodized aluminum, which is more durable. I personally prefer removable handles because they don’t get hot and make packing easier.  But be warned that the handle is a bit tricky to use at first.  Also, make sure you don’t lose the handle! #### **Pros:** - Stuff sack doubles as sink - Room for some extra items in the mugs - Integrated strainers in lids - BPA free - Color coded - Very compact #### **Cons:** - A bit pricy - Removable handle has learning curve - All pots share one handle - Can’t use lids on frying pan **Get It At [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006ERS6OU/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B006ERS6OU&linkId=2ba07efae31ac30b52defa9a666806c4), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dgsi%2Bpinnacle%26pagesize%3D90)** --- ### **2. MSR Quick 2 Pot Set** [![MSR Quick 2 camping cookware set](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/msr-quick-2.jpg "msr quick 2 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/msr-quick-2.jpg) **Best for:** Couples camping - **Includes:** 2.5L pot, 1.5L pot, strainer lid, 2 deep dish plates, 2 insulated mugs, pot handle - **Serves:** 2 people - **Material:** Anodized nonstick aluminum - **Handle:** Removable - **Weight:** 1lb 12oz The entire set clocks in at 1lb 12oz and packs to 7.75×5”.  It is designed for two people but you could just take one of the pots if you are camping solo. I love all the little details with this set.  Like how the lid has a strainer.  And how the handle can fold upwards to lock the lid in place (great for when you are pre-soaking dehydrated camp meals).  The color-coding system is a nice touch, even if I wouldn’t care whose plate I eat off of. 🙂 It’s cool that only one of the pots is nonstick.  This gives you some versatility so you can cook foods more likely to stick in that pot and food that you’ll want to scrub off in the other pot.  Of course, it does mean you’ve got to remember not to use abrasives on the nonstick pot. #### **Pros:** - Good for backpacking or camping - Only 1lb 12oz - One pot has non-stick coating #### **Cons:** - Difficult to remove handle while cooking - Liquid pools at top of sippy cup lids due to bad design - Somewhat pricy **Get It At [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008NOP21C/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B008NOP21C&linkId=1c1ceffec1eaa62ec9e1c45484cba60a), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dmsr%2Bquick%2B2%26pagesize%3D90)** --- ### 3. Odoland 39pcs Camp Cookware and Mess Kit [![Odoland group camping cookware set](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/odoland-camping-cookware-set.jpg "odoland camping cookware set - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/odoland-camping-cookware-set.jpg) **Best for:** Large groups - **Includes:** 4L hanging pot with lid, 2.9L pot with lid, 1.6L kettle, 1.5L nonstick pan, 6 stainless steel dishes, 6 stainless steel cups, 6 spoons, 6 forks, 6 knives, 4 cleaning clothes, 1 carry bag - **Serves:** 4 people - **Material:** Nonstick aluminum pots/pan/kettle and stainless steel mess kit - **Handle:** Fold back and hanging - **Weight:** 6.8lbs This is the camping cook set to get if you want a kettle for your hot drinks.  The cups are stainless steel and have heat guards on them, which is a nice touch – even if the cups still do get hot.  It’s also one of the few camp mess sets which includes stainless steel dishes instead of plastic. Just be warned that the pots and pans scratch easily.  You may want to put a towel in the frying pan underneath the pot when nestled to prevent scratching and definitely don’t use metal utensils or a scouring pad on the pan! #### **Pros:** - Stainless steel instead of plastic plates and mugs - Good value - Fits full-size utensils #### **Cons:** - Pan scratches easily - Fairly heavy - Plates are small [**Get It Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07TBK5KHK/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07TBK5KHK&linkId=f5d0f54291bb970c382313b4ccc9c9af) --- ### 4. Stanley Base Camp Cook Set [![Stanley Adventure base camp cookware set](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/stanley-adventure-base-camp-cook-set.jpg "stanley adventure base camp cook set - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/stanley-adventure-base-camp-cook-set.jpg) **Best for:** Durable family camping cook set - **Includes:** 5L pot with lid, frying pan, cutting board, spatula, serving spoon, 4 plates, 4 bowls, 4 sporks, drying rack, trivet, bungee cord - **Serves:** 4 people - **Material:** Stainless steel, plates - **Handle:** Folding - **Weight:** 4.8lbs There is a good reason that the Stanley Base Camp is regularly voted the best camping cook set.  The pots are made from a durable stainless steel which withstands abuse well.   While the plates and bowls are made from plastic, they are thick and won’t warp from heat like those in some cheap camping sets.   The folding spatula and serving spoon are a nice touch. Overall, it is hard to complain about this cookware set.  I do wish there were some mugs included.  You’ll have to pack these separately as there isn’t room to nest any other big pieces in the kit. #### **Pros:** - Very durable - Bowls are good sizes - Includes drying rack #### **Cons:** - A bit heavy - Plates are small - No mugs **Get It Here At [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MTFIMUC/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B01MTFIMUC&linkId=5ca1943a51da668d494f657ac43e9012), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dstanley%2Bbase%2Bcamp%26pagesize%3D90)** --- ### 5. Sea to Summit Sigma  2.2 [![sea to summit sigma 2 camping cookware set](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/sea-to-summit-sigma-2.jpg "sea to summit sigma 2 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/sea-to-summit-sigma-2.jpg) **Best for:** Long-lasting and durable camping or backpacking cook set for two - **Includes:** 2.7L pot, 1.2L pot, two strainer lids, 2 DeltaLight bowls, 2 DeltaLight insulated mugs, dishcloth - **Serves:** 2 people - **Material:** Stainless steel, glass-reinforced polypropylene, neoprene, silicone - **Handle:** Folding - **Weight:** 2lbs 1oz While it is a very minimalist camp cook set, Sea to Summit put a lot of thought into it.  There are nice features like the rubberized grips and mugs which actually insulate.  The bowls are deep enough to use for soups but still functional for non-liquid meals.  The main selling point of the set is the pots though: they are very high quality and you won’t have to worry about them scratching or deforming on you. #### **Pros:** - Quality materials - Handle locks set in place - Lid has strainer - Cups and bowls are a nice size - Rubberized grip #### **Cons:** - No fry pan **Get It Here At [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dsea%2Bto%2Bsummit%2Bsigma%2B2.2%26pagesize%3D90)** --- ### 6. Bulin 13pcs Camping Cook Set [![bulin 13 pcs camping cookware set](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/bulin-13-pcs-camping-cookware-set.jpg "bulin 13 pcs camping cookware set - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/bulin-13-pcs-camping-cookware-set.jpg) **Best for:** A set you can adjust easily for more or fewer pieces - **Includes:** 4.2L pot with lid, 2.6L pot with lid, 1.5L kettle, frying pan, 6 bowls, 7 plates, folding ladle, spoon, cleaning sponge, - **Serves:** 4+ people - **Material:** Anodized aluminum - **Handle:** Folding and hanging - **Weight:** 4.4lbs This camping cook set says that it is good for 6-7 people.  While it does include that many plates and bowls, I actually find it better for a family of 3-4.  You will be able to use some of the pieces as serving bowls.  Or, remove some of the pieces so you can fit your utensils and other equipment into the nest.  If you remove the kettle or one of the pots, you’ll be able to fit a lot more into it. #### **Pros:** - Decent quality - Conducts heat well - Includes lots of pieces #### **Cons:** - Bowls are tiny and get hot - No mugs included [**Get It Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08N4LKZFT/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08N4LKZFT&linkId=9bc6710939bfd1876188b08aa8767042) --- ## Best Camping Pots and Pans Sets If you don’t want plates and utensils in your cookware set, then choose one of these camping pots and pans sets which nest together. ### 7. Stansport Heavy Duty Stainless Steel Camping Cook Set [![stansport heavy duty camping cookware](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/stansport-heavy-duty-camping-cookware.jpg "stansport heavy duty camping cookware - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/stansport-heavy-duty-camping-cookware.jpg) **Best for:** A set you can adjust easily for more or fewer pieces - **Includes:** 4 quart pot, 3 quart pot, 2 quart pot, 1 quart pot, 10 inch frying pan, lid, handle - **Material:** Stainless steel with aluminum clad bottom - **Handle:** Detachable - **Weight:** 9.3lbs The camping pots are made from stainless steel and have aluminum added to the bottoms.  This helps conduct heat so you don’t get hot spots and prevents food from burning.  It is a really great pot and pan set if you want to cook proper meals while camping. Note that this set comes with a lifter-type handle, not a gripper-type handle. It can be tricky to use, and is difficult to move from one pot to another while cooking.   If you cook with more than one pot at a time, I’d recommend buying a second handle to use with the other pots. #### **Pros:** - Heavy bottoms for even cooking - Detachable handle - Nests really well - Can use for campfire cooking - Easy to clean #### **Cons:** - Handle is hard to remove while cooking - Wish it came with a second handle - Need to supply your own bungee for securing the set together [**Get It Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000HK50IU/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B000HK50IU&linkId=3fe25d00f9d3830e141aa528d6d0d931)                                                  **Want gourmet meals on the trail?** My dehydrator recipes ebook has 50+ calorie-dense backpacking recipes — just add hot water. **[                                                                                 Get it here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck)** --- ### 8. Stanley Even Heat Camp Pro Cookset [![stanley even heat camping cookware set](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/stanley-even-heat-set.jpg "stanley even heat set - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/stanley-even-heat-set.jpg) **Best for:** Frequent campers who love to cook - **Includes:** 4.75 quart pot, 1.9 quart sauce pot, 8.5 inch frying pan, 2 lids, 2 trivets, bungee cord, and folding cutting board, spatula and spoon - **Material:** Stainless steel with multilayer bottom - **Handle:** Folding - **Weight:** 8.2lbs This camp pots and pan set is designed for serious cooks.  It includes a large pot, sauce pot and a frying pan – which should be adequate for all your camp cooking needs.  The stainless steel construction makes this set very durable.  Stansport put a 3-layer bottom on the cookware so it distributes  heat evenly and you don’t get those annoying hot spots and burnt food.  Cleanup is also a breeze with the stainless steel. The handles on the smaller pot and pan are fold-away and seem sturdy even when the cookware is full.  I wish they put a bail handle on the bigger pot so you could hang it though.   There are some nice extras with the set too, like a folding camp utensils and even a folding cutting board. #### **Pros:** - Great heat distribution - Includes folding cutting board, spatula and spoon - Very good quality and durability - Can use for camping cooking #### **Cons:** - Would be nice to have bail handle on bigger pot **Get It Here At [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B084G7PLRC/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B084G7PLRC&linkId=fe40339657a7f3acf92aee6149a1d40c), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dstanley%2Beven%2Bheat%26pagesize%3D90)** --- ### 9. Texsport Black Ice The Scouter Set [![Texsport black ice scouter camp cook set budget pick](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/texsport-black-ice.jpg "texsport black ice - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/texsport-black-ice.jpg) **Best for:** Good value lightweight cook set - **Includes:** 7″ Fry Pan, 1 quart pot, 1.5 quart pot - **Material:** Anodized non-stick aluminum - **Handle:** Folding - **Weight:** 1.8lbs Texsport makes a lot of good budget camping gear.  The quality isn’t fantastic, but their products do hold up through many camping trips. This cook set of theirs is very basic but has some nice features, like that it nests perfectly.  It also has a “triple coat Quantum2 non-stick interior”.  Don’t use metal utensils on these if you want them to last! The bottoms are great at distributing heat so you won’t have to constantly stir food to prevent burning. #### **Pros:** - Nonstick - Great value - Mesh bag can be used for drying set - Distributes heat well #### **Cons:** - Very basic [**Get It Here**](https://amzn.to/40Ys5fg) --- ### 10. Alocs Camp Cookware Set with Heat Exchanger [![Alocs Camping Cookware Pots and Pans Set with Heat Exchanger,Outdoor Lightweight Cooking Equipment Camp Backpacking Gear for Hiking Picnic](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/312E3fGoP1L._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZQ65TTM?tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) **Best for:** Cheap, minimalist pot and pan set that still cooks well - **Includes:** 1.7L pot with 7.5 inch pan/lid - **Material:** Anodized aluminum - **Handle:** Folding - **Weight:** 1.4lbs Even though this camping pot and pan is cheap, it functions very well.  The heat exchanger feature is not just a gimmick: it actually helps the pot cook faster than pots without the feature.  You’ll appreciate this if camping with a limited fuel supply. The only real downside of the pot and pan set is that the handles are flimsy.  I’m not sure how well they will hold up in the long term.  You may need to buy a clamp-style handle if they break. #### **Pros:** - Affordable - Lightweight - Heat exchanger for efficient cooking - Silicone coated handles #### **Cons:** - Handles are a bit flimsy [**Get It Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07ZQ65TTM/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07ZQ65TTM&linkId=65e16ed949632c1674e478562cc3caea) --- ### 11. Snow Peak Trek 1400 [![Snow Peak Trek titanium ultralight pot for group backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/snow-peak-trek-1400.jpg "snow peak trek 1400 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/snow-peak-trek-1400.jpg) **Best for**: Group backpacking - **Includes:** 1.4L pot with 0.5L pan lid - **Material:** Titanium - **Handle:** Folding - **Weight:** 7.4oz Snow Peak makes ultralight pots and pans from titanium.  Their products are made in Japan and great quality.  Most of their titanium cookware is too small for camping but this one is a great size for 1-3 people.  It is only 7.4oz so it is light enough for group backpacking trips too. The only downsides of the set are what you’d expect from any titanium cookware: there will be some hotspots and it can scratch easily.   Just take care of the set and it will last for dozens of trips.  The pot is 5.5 inches (D) x 4.5 inches (W) and will fit a fuel canister plus backpacking stove inside. #### **Pros:** - Incredibly lightweight - Fits fuel canister inside - Measurements on side of pot #### **Cons:** - Very minimalist set **Get It Here At [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000AR2N3U/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B000AR2N3U&linkId=68cbe9e57168c0e8711be0658955125f), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dsnow%2Bpeak%2Btrek%2B1400%26pagesize%3D90)** --- ## Best Cast Iron Camp Cookware If you want to have fun cooking over an open fire or coals, then cast iron cookware is your best bet.  Not all cast iron cookware is suited for camping though.  The ones below have features which make it easier to use on campfires. ### 12. Lodge Cast Iron Cook It All [![lodge cook it all cast iron camping cookware](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/lodge-cook-it-all-cast-iron-camping-cookware.jpg "lodge cook it all cast iron camping cookware - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/lodge-cook-it-all-cast-iron-camping-cookware.jpg) **Best for:** Versatile campfire cooking - **Includes:** 14 inch grill/griddle, 6.8 quart wok/skillet and two handles - **Weight:** 29lbs 5oz This is one of the coolest cast iron cookware for camping.  It consists of only two pieces but you can use them in various configurations: The main piece is a skillet or wok. Put the lid on top of this and you’ve got a Dutch oven.  Flip it so the lid is on the bottom and it is a pizza oven.  The lid has two sides so you can use it as a grill or griddle.   It comes with a booklet with advice on how to use it. #### **Pros:** - Versatile - Good size for camp cooking - Charcoal stays on lid well #### **Cons:** - Very heavy **Get It Here At [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NLKLFNB/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07NLKLFNB&linkId=652b1cdcae8b010aba7a0ab518e7c187), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dlodge%2Bcook%2Bit%2Ball%26pagesize%3D90)** --- ### 13. Overmont Dutch Oven with Skillet Lid [![overmont camping dutch oven](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/overmont-camping-dutch-oven.jpg "overmont camping dutch oven - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/overmont-camping-dutch-oven.jpg) **Best for:** Campfire cooking - **Includes:** Pot with skillet lid (4.4Q or 6.6Q sizes) - **Weight:** 14lbs There are a lot of Dutch ovens you can buy but this one by Overmont is specifically designed for camping and open fire cooking.  For starters, there are legs on the bottom so you can push coals underneath.  The lid has a nice lip to it for holding coals in place. Another awesome feature is that the lid can be flipped over and used as a skillet.  This gives you much more versatility without having to bring another heavy cast iron item with you. Note that the listed sizes are a bit confusing.  They are for the TOTAL capacity of the pot plus lid.  The smaller set is a 4.4 quart pot with a 1.6 quart lid. It is ideal for 2-5 people. The larger set has a 6.6 quart pot with a 2.6 quart lid.  It is ideal for 5-8 people. #### **Pros:** - Lid also is a skillet - Pot has legs and sturdy handle - Handle for hanging over fire - Large handle for removing lid #### **Cons:** - Confusing dimensions [**Get It Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07KP8NZH3/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07KP8NZH3&linkId=55f120f7709934c4caf855fc284a8a17) --- ### 14. Bruntmor Cast Iron Camp Cooking Set [![Bruntmor Cast Iron Camp Cooking Set](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Bruntmor-Cast-Iron-Camp-Cooking-Set.jpg "Bruntmor Cast Iron Camp Cooking Set - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Bruntmor-Cast-Iron-Camp-Cooking-Set.jpg) **Best for:** Cast iron cookware that you can use at home too - **Includes:** 4.5 quart Dutch oven, 2.5 quart pot, 20×9” reversible griddle, 12” skillet, trivet, lid lifter, storage box - **Weight:** 43lbs You get 4 different cast iron cookware pieces in this kit (plus some extras like the lid lifter). Because it is made in China, it is a lot more affordable than USA-made cast iron like Lodge.  Despite being cheap, it performs really well. The set isn’t specifically made for camping – there are no legs on the Dutch oven – but it does come with a stand so you can easily use it in a fire or over coals.  There is also a really nice lip on the lid of the Dutch oven lid for holding coals in place.  The entire set is really heavy at about 43lbs and the box, while seemingly nice, will break from the weight. #### **Pros:** - Great value - Use at home or camping - Lid has lip for holding coals #### **Cons:** - Box will break - Very heavy set - Made in China [**Get It Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MY7VXXL/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B01MY7VXXL&linkId=50dca6acc46fd2a824db0a390a838d53) --- ## How to Choose Camping Cookware Below are some of the most important things to look at when choosing cookware for camping. ### Camp Cookware Materials You’ve got four main options when it comes to camping cookware materials. #### Aluminum - **Pros:** It is a very cheap material and incredibly lightweight. It conducts heat well so you won’t get hot spots. - **Cons:** Aluminum is a very soft material so will dent and scratch easily. It isn’t nonstick so is somewhat difficult to clean.  Anodized aluminum is stronger but a bit more expensive. #### Stainless Steel - **Pros:** There are a lot of affordable options for stainless steel camping pots and cans. It is a durable material.  It withstands scratching so you can use metal utensils and even use it for campfire cooking.  Most are dishwasher safe. - **Cons:** Stainless steel is heavy, so not great for backpacking trips.  It also doesn’t conduct heat well so you’ll end up with hot spots which can burn food. #### Titanium - **Pros:** The main benefit of titanium cookware is that it is incredibly lightweight yet still strong. This is why it is popular with backpackers. - **Cons:** Titanium is very expensive and scratches fairly easily. It doesn’t conduct heat well and you’ll get hot spots which can burn food. It’s best for boiling water for meals and not traditional cooking. #### Cast Iron - **Pros:** Cast iron cookware is incredibly durable. You can put it right on a campfire and even bake in it. - **Cons:** Cast iron is insanely heavy and only makes sense for car camping where you won’t have to carry dishes far. There’s also a fairly large learning curve for using cast iron. #### Silicone - **Pros:** Some newer camping pots are made from silicone with a metal base. The silicone means the pot is completely collapsible to save space. - **Cons:** If you aren’t careful, it is easy to burn a hole in the silicone pot. There aren’t too many options when it comes to these collapsible camping pots. #### Ceramic or Teflon Cookware - **Pros:** The coating makes cleanup easier and you won’t have to use as much oil when cooking. - **Cons:** These pots and pans scratch very easily. With Teflon, the scratched pot is actually health hazard. ### Does the Camp Cookware Nestle? Nestling means that the camping cookware will fit inside each other.  This saves you a lot of space and makes packing easier.  Some camping cookware sets come with plates and bowls which also nestle into the pots.  If you want to include other items in the set, make sure there is some extra room. ### Handle Type The type of handle on your camping cookware is actually very important.  There are four main types and each has its pros/cons. #### Fold-away handles: - **Pros:** These types of handles are found on most cheap camping cookware sets. They are easy to use and the folding design saves space. - **Cons:** The handles can get hot. If it has a rubberized coating, the coating can sometimes melt.  You also can’t use rubberized handle pots for campfire cooking. #### Detachable handles: - **Pros:** These handles clip on to the pot or pan. You can use the same handle on multiple pots.  You don’t have to worry about the handle getting too hot and can use the pot for campfire cooking if needed. - **Cons:** The handles can be a big tricky to use, especially if the pot is very heavy. #### Bail Handle: - **Pros:** This handle allows you to [hang the pot over a campfire](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-cook-over-a-campfire/). It also makes it easier to pick up very large or heavy pots. Some pots have removable bail handles so you can use them over campfires or on a stove. - **Cons:** If the pot only has a bail handle, you won’t be able to use it on a stove easily. #### Attached Handles: - **Pros:** Cast iron camping pots will have an attached handle. This is the only way the handle can be strong enough to hold the weight of the cast iron. - **Cons:** Because the handle doesn’t fold away, it is annoying to pack. The handle also gets very hot, which is why some will come with holders. ### Do you want to cook over a campfire? If you are a major foodie and really want to cook over the campfire, then it might be worth getting cast iron camp cookware, like a Dutch oven.   At the very least, you’ll need a bail handle on your camping pot.  You won’t be able to use camp cookware with rubberized handles. Just be warned that campfire cooking is a lot of work and very impractical in many situations.  However, it’s still nice to have the option to cook over a campfire with your pot.  For example, I’ve run out of fuel while backpacking and was happy I could use my camp pot over a fire.   This would not have been possible if my pot had rubberized handles. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/dutch-oven-campfire-cooking.jpg "dutch oven campfire cooking - Mom Goes Camping")*Campfire cobbler cooked in a cast iron Dutch oven* ### Base Width of the Camp Cookware Consider your stove type when choosing the camping cookware. It is very difficult to balance a large pot on a small backpacking-type canister stove.  Instead, you’ll want to get a tall and skinny pot.  If you are using a larger camping stove, then you’ll be able to use wider pots and pans without trouble. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/camping-pot-too-big-for-stove.jpg "camping pot too big for stove - Mom Goes Camping")Pray that the pot doesnt fall over and spill your food everywhere ### Can You Use Metal Utensils with the Cookware? Be warned that a lot of camping cookware cannot be used with metal utensils.  This includes any cookware which is coated, such as Teflon and ceramic cookware.  It’s also not a good idea to use metal on titanium camping cookware as it scratches easily. This is easily solved by bringing a plastic or wooden spoon for cooking. But, if you want to use the pots for things like salad serving bowls, then you are better off choosing cookware which is safe for use with metal utensils, such as stainless steel. ## Camping Cookware FAQ: #### What is the best material for camping cookware? For most car campers, anodized aluminum is the best balance of weight, durability, and price it’s lightweight, conducts heat evenly, and holds up well over time. For backpackers where every ounce matters, titanium is the gold standard despite the higher cost. For campfire cooking specifically, cast iron is unbeatable — nothing else distributes heat as well or lasts as long over an open fire. #### Do I need a special cookware set for camping or can I use my regular pots? You can use regular pots for camping, but they create real problems: they don’t nest together so they take up huge amounts of space, many have plastic handles that melt over a campfire, and they’re often too wide to balance safely on a canister stove. A dedicated camping cookware set solves all three issues. A basic anodized aluminum set like the GSI Bugaboo or Pinnacle will outperform your kitchen pots in every camping-relevant way. #### What is the best camping cookware for families? For families of 3-4, the GSI Pinnacle is the top pick, it includes pots, pans, plates, bowls, and insulated mugs all nesting together, at a reasonable weight of 3lbs 10oz. For larger groups of 5-6, the Odoland 39pcs set adds a kettle and more plates. Both use anodized aluminum which handles abuse from kids well and cleans easily. #### What is the lightest camping cookware set? The Snow Peak Trek 1400 titanium pot at 7.4oz is the lightest reviewed here. For a complete set with plates and mugs, the MSR Quick 2 at 1lb 12oz is the lightest full kit. If weight is the priority, titanium is the material, but expect to pay significantly more and deal with hot spots when cooking. --- ###### Image credit: “[Camping cookware](https://www.flickr.com/photos/twentysixcats/2539852737/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [twentysixcats](https://www.flickr.com/people/twentysixcats/), “[Campfire Cobbler in a Dutch Oven](https://www.flickr.com/photos/zkorb/51496221959/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Zach K](https://www.flickr.com/people/zkorb/) “[MacDougall’s Stove](https://www.flickr.com/photos/ifl/11132053923/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [peretzp](https://www.flickr.com/people/ifl/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Food, Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** cooking, cookware, pots --- ### [Are Power Stations Worth It for Camping?](https://momgoescamping.com/power-stations-worth-it-camping/) **Published:** April 18, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I usually go backpacking in the wilderness, so there’s no friggin’ way that I could bring a power station with me (I literally calculate the calories in my meals so I don’t bring one more ounce than necessary!). \## Are Portable Power Stations Worth It for Camping? The Short Answer If you charge multiple devices, camp more than 15 nights a year, or pay for electric hookups at campgrounds — yes, a portable power station is worth it for camping. If you go camping once or twice a year, prefer primitive camping, or are a minimalist like me — probably not. A good power bank covers most people’s actual charging needs for far less money and weight. \*\*Who should buy a camping power station:\*\* – Families with multiple phones, cameras, and kids’ devices to charge – Anyone using a CPAP machine while camping – Photographers who burn through multiple camera batteries – Remote workers who want to work from camp – Campers who regularly pay $10-20/night for electric hookups \*\*Who should skip it:\*\* – Weekend campers who just need to charge a phone – Backpackers (too heavy — a power bank is the answer) – People who camp only in hot summer weather (heat degrades lithium batteries fast) Even for car camping, I wouldn’t bring a power station: for me, the whole point of camping is to connect with nature, and I can’t do that while I’m plugged in.  Even on week-long trips, a [lightweight power bank](https://momgoescamping.com/best-backpacking-power-banks/) is enough to keep my few necessary devices charged. But the brand Bluetti recently sent me their EB70 power station and 120W solar panel for free to test out (one of the perks of my job J). I have the [EU version](https://shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=1876250&u=2366353&m=117299&urllink=www%2Ebluettipower%2Eeu%2Fproducts%2Fbluetti%2Deb70%2Dportable%2Dsolar%2Dgenerator%2D120w%2Dsolar%2Dpanel&afftrack=) but there’s also a [USA version](https://shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=1745428&u=2366353&m=108816&urllink=www%2Ebluettipower%2Ecom%2Fproducts%2Feb70s%2D716wh%2D800w%2Dportable%2Dpower%2Dstation%2Dbest%2Dsolar%2Dgenerator%2Dfor%2Dcamping&afftrack=). My main reason for accepting this power station was to have for power outages and emergency preparedness.  The setup is definitely awesome and easy to use, even for non-tech people like me. So, now that I have it, I got to thinking about how a power station could fit into my camping lifestyle and whether it’s worth it. [![using a power station to charge camping gear](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/power-station-for-camping.jpg "power station for camping - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/power-station-for-camping.jpg) Above: The Bluetti EB70 power station simultaneously charging via solar and discharging. The US version is available [here](https://shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=1745428&u=2366353&m=108816&urllink=www%2Ebluettipower%2Ecom%2Fproducts%2Feb70s%2D716wh%2D800w%2Dportable%2Dpower%2Dstation%2Dbest%2Dsolar%2Dgenerator%2Dfor%2Dcamping&afftrack=) and the EU version [here](https://shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=1876250&u=2366353&m=117299&urllink=www%2Ebluettipower%2Eeu%2Fproducts%2Fbluetti%2Deb70%2Dportable%2Dsolar%2Dgenerator%2D120w%2Dsolar%2Dpanel&afftrack=). ## If You Charge Lots of Devices while Camping, then a Power Station Is Probably Worth It Lots of campers swear by power stations.  They are especially popular with campers into nature photography because they allow you to recharge camera batteries multiple times, even while in the field. An alternative would be to bring multiple power banks.  I can imagine how annoying it would be to keep track of which power banks are fully charged.  It’s a lot simpler to just bring one power station and plug all of your devices into it. And it’s definitely better than leaving your vehicle running to charge device or potentially draining the starting battery. ## A Power Station Might Be Cheaper than Paying for Campground Electric Hookups If you usually pay for an electric hookup at camp, then a power station might also be worth it.  Most campgrounds charge around $5 to $10 per night for electric hookup.  However, some campgrounds charge $20+ more for sites with electric hookups. That’s a lot of money to pay just to be able to recharge your phones, flashlights, and other small devices! Good portable power stations are not cheap.  Expect to pay at least $400 for a power station with enough capacity for camping needs. But, if you go camping more than 15 nights a year, the cost could quickly pay off because of money saved from those electric hookup fees.  Plus, you’ll also have a power station to use in case of a power outage at home.  It’s hard to put a price on peace of mind. **Bonus:** With a power station, you can choose a primitive campsite, which means that your camp neighbors will also have a primitive site. So you won’t have listen to [annoying camp neighbors](https://momgoescamping.com/bad-camping-etiquette/) using the electric hookup to blast music or watch movies.                                                                 **Heading out soon?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup — print them before you go. **[                                                                 Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** ## Working while Camping Is Now an Option Here’s what makes me excited about having a power station for camping: I can now work while camping. The EB70 that Bluetti sent me can recharge my laptop approximately 8x.  Even when you calculate in the power required for Wifi from my phone, I still could work for several days while in the wilderness.   Plus, I’ve got a solar panel to recharge the power station.  With the Bluetti and some other models, you can charge and discharge at the same time. Now I just need my kids would leave me alone long enough to get some work done, but that’s a separate issue… [![working on a power station while camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/working-outside.jpg "working outside - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/working-outside.jpg)I love that I can do this ## Be Realistic about What Portable Power Stations Can Charge Portable power stations are great for charging camping gadgets like: - Phones - Camera batteries - USB lights - Air mattress pumps - GPS - Small fans - Rechargeable batteries (kind of funny to charge batteries with a battery, but my headlamps use AAAs!) But you can basically forget about using a power station camping to charge things like electric blankets, heaters, coolers or camp fridges.  You’ll also drain the power station very quickly if you use it to power things like electric kettles or run a larger fan all night. To power those sorts of power-hungry devices, you’d need a power station with a VERY large capacity.  And high-capacity power stations aren’t very portable or practical for camping. ## Also Consider Where You’ll Keep the Power Station during Day Trips One thing that scares me about using a power station when camping is this: **lithium-ion batteries don’t handle high temperatures well.**  The battery will lose its capacity if kept at high temperatures.  This isn’t an issue when at camp since power stations are usually fine up to 110F. But what about when you go on day trips or hikes? Where will you put the power station? I’m not about to leave gear worth $500+ outside.  The only solution is to put it in my vehicle. But, in summer, it can easily get to over 140F inside a vehicle. You’ll have to think carefully about this – such as making sure your vehicle is in a shady area and that you keep it covered with one of those reflective tarps.  Or just don’t bring the power station when camping in peak summer (which defeats the point if you want it to run a fan). ## Are There Cheaper Alternatives? It’s definitely possible to build your own power station and solar charger setup.  It can end up being a lot cheaper than buying one.  But that assumes you know what you are doing and don’t calculate in your labor time.   Those DIY power stations usually aren’t very portable or practical for camping though. So, the cheapest alternative is to simply reduce your power needs so you don’t have to take a power station camping. ## Buy the Biggest You Can Afford If you do decide to buy a power station for camping, note that everyone says to get a bigger one than you think you need.  As one Redditor said, “It only took one trip, three nights, to realize how true that statement is.” ## And Also Don’t Rely on Solar Bluetti also sent me a 120W solar panel which does a great job of recharging the power station.  But only when it is sunny. And guess what? It will inevitably be cloudy when you need to recharge the power station via solar. Or you will want to go hiking during the day and won’t want to stick around camp while the sun recharges your solar station.  Nor will you want to leave your expensive solar setup out while you leave camp.    Bottom line? Solar is nice, but don’t rely on it. ## Camping Power Station FAQ: How big of a power station do I need for camping? For charging phones, headlamps, cameras, and a small fan, a 500–700Wh capacity covers most families for a weekend trip. The Bluetti EB70 at 716Wh is a good reference point. If you want to run a CPAP machine overnight, you need at minimum 150–200Wh per night just for that, so size up accordingly. The universal advice from experienced campers is to buy one size larger than you think you need, power consumption is almost always higher than estimated once you’re at camp. Can you use a power station to run a camping fridge? A 12V camping fridge (like a BougeRV or Alpicool) typically draws 40–60W and runs about 30–50% of the time to maintain temperature. That works out to roughly 200–400Wh per day, meaning a 700Wh power station will run a camping fridge for about 1–2 days before needing a recharge. This is doable with solar recharging during the day, but without solar you’ll drain the station quickly. Standard electric coolers (thermoelectric, not compressor) are much less efficient and not worth trying to power from a camping power station. **Do you use a power station when camping? Let us know in the comments section below whether you think it was worth it.** --- ###### Sources: <https://www.reddit.com/r/overlanding/comments/oc4xpj/portable_power_stations/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/camping/comments/rujbie/portable_power_station/> ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [Best Water Bottles for Little Kids (2026)](https://momgoescamping.com/best-water-bottles-little-kids/) **Published:** June 8, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I go [hiking with my small kids](https://momgoescamping.com/advice-hiking-with-kids/) and one of the essential items for them to have is their own water bottle.  I also use the same hiking water bottles for trips around town and to the playground.  I’ve come to realize that some water bottles are simply not practical for little kids. Below I’ve selected the best water bottles for small kids (about two to six years old), as well as info as to why these water bottles are good choices. **Quick Picks:** - **Best Overall:** [Zulu Torque](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01FZD7V1W/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B01FZD7V1W&linkId=08467464d9c6dcd7f9f6009360e59c34) - **Best for Very Little Kids (Completely Spill Proof):** [Contigo Easy Clean](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0872S88QT/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B0872S88QT&linkId=61cda366567b9a28330c6e8a304a3c07) - **Best for Slightly Older Kids:** [Nalgene On The Fly](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00R1FTRQU/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00R1FTRQU&linkId=276d3941cd606a4bd4a7afda4e67c5d8) - **Best Stainless Steel:** [Hydro Flask Kids 2.0](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08B2BKWR9/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08B2BKWR9&linkId=a2d0fcc1e188080fd663d22cf88e9476) \*Keep reading for the full review and top picks. ## Features You Want in Water Bottles for Little Kids After using numerous different water bottles with my daughters, these are the features that I find absolutely mandatory –  They will make your life much easier. ### 1. Spill Proof or Reduced Spill One of the worst things that can happen on a trip is your little kid spilling the water bottle.  You or your kid can end up drenched (and thus freezing if it’s cold out) and hopefully you have a change of clothes!  Your kid can also end up thirsty if you don’t have a place to refill the water bottle, as is often the case when I go hiking with my kids. There are some kids water bottles which are completely spill proof even when open.  Water bottles with straws are also a good choice: they still can spill but the water flows out very slowly so it usually won’t make a mess. ### 2. Little Kids Can Open the Water Bottle Themselves Unless you want to open the water bottle for your kids each time they take a drink, make sure it is easy to open.  Look for flip tops or large buttons.  Avoid anything with screw tops for this reason.  Also avoid hinge-style locking caps for very little kids; push-button locking caps are a better option. ### 3. Small Size For little kids water bottles, 12oz is a pretty good size.  Anything larger than that will be too wide for their small hands (thus increasing the likelihood that they will spill water all over themselves).  I’ve also found that smaller kids water bottles are more multi-purpose.  You can even fit some in your purse on quick trips where you don’t want to bring a backpack. ### 4. Easy to Clean Little kids are terrible about backwashing food into water bottles when they take a drink, which means that MOLD can quickly start growing (embarrassingly, I’ve opened up my kids’ water bottles to find mold on the lid edges multiple times). To make sure that the kids water bottle is actually easy to clean: - Make sure a bottle brush can fit into the opening - Avoid water bottles with weird grooves or shapes - Choose ones which have dishwasher safe bodies *and* lids ### 5. Attachment Method I’ve heard stories of parents who had to backtrack 2 miles on hikes to look for a favorite water bottle that fell out of their kid’s backpack.  An easy way to prevent lost water bottles is to get ones which can be attached to a backpack or stroller. I personally like carabiner attachments.  Little kids can’t undo a carabiner though (at least my 3 year old can’t).  So, I usually tie the water bottle to the stroller/carrier/backpack.  If the string is long enough, then your toddler can take a drink while the water bottle is still attached. ### 6. Hygienic Lid Trust me, your little kid *will* drop the water bottle onto a gross surface.  You’ll then have to decide whether you let your kid go thirsty or drink from the contaminated mouthpiece.  A simple way to avoid this dilemma is to get a water bottle with a hygienic lid, such as a flip cap or flip straw that keeps it covered while not in use. ### 7. Mouthpiece and Cap Type Kids water bottles can have one of the following mouthpiece types listed below. For very little kids, you’ll probably want a straw water bottle.  From 3 years and up, spout water bottles are usually more convenient to use. --- #### Hard Straw Hard straws water bottles are made out of rigid plastic. They usually flip back and are leakproof when closed.  Most do leak when open, though there are some leak-proof ones. **+ Prevent backwash** **+ Withstand some chewing** **+ Spills are slow trickles** **– Annoying to clean** --- #### Soft Straw Cap A lot of newer water bottles for kids have “bite and sip” soft straws.  I personally find them weird to use but lots of people like them. **+ Leak proof, even when open** **– Annoying to clean** **– Eventually get gross teeth marks** --- #### Spout with Flip Cap This is what I preferred for my kids starting from 3 years old.  There is a risk of spilling when open so I try to get ones with smaller diameter mouth spouts. **+ Easy to clean \+ Cap completely protects mouthpiece – Can spill entire contents quickly** --- #### Sports Cap  (Not Recommeded) I don’t really recommend sports cap water bottles for small kids.  They are hard to open and even harder for kids to close completely.  This has resulted in lots of leakage.  Plus, the sports cap gets gunked up quickly. **+ Cheap – Hard for kids to open and close – Leak when not closed properly – Get gunky quickly – Get chewed up** --- #### Screw Caps (Not Recommeded) I also don’t recommend screw cap water bottles for little kids.  Most small kids can’t open the screw caps easily and the caps tend to get lost. **+ Cheap – Caps get lost – Hard for little kids to open**                                         **Taking the kids camping for the first time?** My “Your Family’s First Camping Trip” bundle has the complete guide, printable packing checklist, and three done-for-you itineraries — everything from booking the site to the drive home. **[                                                                 Get the bundle →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/1stcampingtrip)** --- ## Best Water Bottles for Little Kids ### 1. [Zulu Torque Kids Water Bottle](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01FZD7V1W/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B01FZD7V1W&linkId=08467464d9c6dcd7f9f6009360e59c34) **Best Overall** ![Zulu Torque Kids Water Bottle review](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Zulu-Torque-Kids-Water-Bottle-review.jpg "Zulu Torque Kids Water Bottle review - Mom Goes Camping") I love this water bottle because it has a hygienic locking lid which is actually easy for little kids to use.  When in the lock position, it won’t accidentally open.  There is a soft straw which isn’t completely leak proof, but it would take a long time before it made any serious spills – thus making it good for very little children or older kids.  There aren’t any cute designs but the textured exterior looks cool and provides a good grip for sweaty hands. - **Size:** 12oz and 16oz - **Material:** BPA Tritan plastic with silicone sleeve - **Lid Type:** Flip soft straw with plastic locking lid - **Carabiner friendly:** Yes - **Insulated:** Yes - **Dishwasher safe:** Yes - **Spill proof when open:** No - [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01FZD7V1W/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B01FZD7V1W&linkId=08467464d9c6dcd7f9f6009360e59c34) --- ### 2. [Contigo Easy Clean Kids Water Bottle with Autospout Straw](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0872S88QT/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B0872S88QT&linkId=61cda366567b9a28330c6e8a304a3c07) **Best For:** Very little kids who need a completely spill-proof water bottle ![contigo easy clean autospout kids water bottle](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/contigo-easy-clean-autospout-kids-water-bottle.jpg "contigo easy clean autospout kids water bottle - Mom Goes Camping") Available in lots of cute designs for little boys and girls, the Contigo water bottle has a push-button hygiene lid.  It’s easy for toddlers to both open and close on their own.  The interior valve means the straw won’t leak even when open.  However, the straw is attached to the lid so is somewhat annoying to clean. - **Size:** 14oz - **Material:** BPA plastic - **Lid Type:** Push-button pop up soft straw - **Carabiner friendly:** Yes - **Insulated:** Yes - **Dishwasher safe:** Yes - **Spill proof when open:** Yes - **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0872S88QT/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B0872S88QT&linkId=61cda366567b9a28330c6e8a304a3c07)** --- ### 3. [Nalgene Kids On the Fly Water Bottle](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00R1FTRQU/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00R1FTRQU&linkId=276d3941cd606a4bd4a7afda4e67c5d8) **Best For:** Slightly older kids or kids who will abuse their water bottle ![nalgene on the fly kids water bottle](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/nalgene-on-the-fly-kids-water-bottle.jpg "nalgene on the fly kids water bottle - Mom Goes Camping") The Nalgene On The Fly is one of the most popular water bottles for kids.  It has a locking cap, which means it won’t accidentally open like push-button caps.  This makes it great for hiking or kids who abuse their water bottles.  The spout opening will spill quickly, so it’s not a good pick for toddlers to use by themselves. - **Size: 12oz** - **Material:** BPA free Tritan plastic - **Lid Type:** Spout with locking flip cap - **Carabiner friendly:** Yes - **Insulated:** No - **Dishwasher Safe:** Yes - **Spill proof when open:** No - [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00R1FTRQU/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00R1FTRQU&linkId=276d3941cd606a4bd4a7afda4e67c5d8) --- ### 4. [Hydro Flask Kids 2.0](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08B2BKWR9/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08B2BKWR9&linkId=a2d0fcc1e188080fd663d22cf88e9476) **Best For:** Insulated stainless steel water bottle for kids ![hydro flask 2 kids stainless steel water bottle](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/hydro-flask-2-kids-stainless-steel-water-bottle.jpg "hydro flask 2 kids stainless steel water bottle - Mom Goes Camping") While they don’t come in cute designs (just various color combos), the Hydro Flask 2.0 is the best stainless steel water bottle for little kids.  The flip straw has a large tab on it which makes it easy to open and close.  Hydro Flask is also known for being able to take a beating. - **Size:** 12oz - **Material:** Stainless steel - **Lid Type:** Flip hard straw - **Carabiner friendly:** Yes - **Insulated:** Yes - **Dishwasher safe:** Yes - **Spill proof when open:** No - [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08B2BKWR9/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08B2BKWR9&linkId=a2d0fcc1e188080fd663d22cf88e9476) --- ### 5. [Yeti Rambler Jr.](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VF6VRMD/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07VF6VRMD&linkId=b3ae1b1ce8a1ba50bb0d79b222fb96db) **Best For:** Stainless steel water bottle with top handle ![yeto rambler kids water bottle](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/yeto-rambler-kids-water-bottle.jpg "yeto rambler kids water bottle - Mom Goes Camping") Here’s one more stainless steel kids water bottle. Like the Hydro Flask, it is durable and easy for little kids to use. The main difference is that the handle is on the top and not off to the side, which some may prefer. - **Size:** 12oz - **Material:** Stainless steel - **Lid Type:** Flip hard straw - **Carabiner friendly:** Yes - **Insulated:** Yes - **Dishwasher safe:** Yes - **Spill proof when open:** No - [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VF6VRMD/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07VF6VRMD&linkId=b3ae1b1ce8a1ba50bb0d79b222fb96db) --- ### 6. [CamelBak Eddy+](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07X98FKB9/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07X98FKB9&linkId=0c67d60139613d20fbf7b8e7cc765bd0) **Best For:** Kids who bite their straws ![camelbak eddy+ kids water bottle](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/cambelbak-eddy-kids-water-bottle.jpg "cambelbak eddy kids water bottle - Mom Goes Camping") The CamelBak Eddy+ for kids has a “bite and sip” straw.  This design makes it completely leak proof, though it may take your kids a bit to get used to using.  There are lots of cute designs and the flip straw is easy for little kids to use on their own. - **Size:** 12oz - **Material:** Stainless steel - **Lid Type:** Flip bite and sip soft straw - **Carabiner friendly:** Yes - **Insulated:** Yes - **Dishwasher safe:** Yes - **Spill proof when open:** Yes - **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07X98FKB9/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07X98FKB9&linkId=0c67d60139613d20fbf7b8e7cc765bd0)** --- ### 7. [Simple Modern Summit Kids Water Bottle](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07V3PS4ZF/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07V3PS4ZF&linkId=45204a2c616cd705b423a3e7dd943766) **Best For:** Cute and cheap water bottle ![simple modern kids water bottle](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/simple-modern-kids-water-bottle.jpg "simple modern kids water bottle - Mom Goes Camping") This is an overall well-designed water bottle for little kids.  It is made out of plastic and has a hard straw that is easy to flip out.  The lids can be used with other Tritan bottles from the company.  They also have sippy cup lids for babies and toddlers.   Compared to the other kids water bottles reviewed here though, the main standout feature are the cute designs available. - **Size:** 12oz and 16oz - **Material:** BPA Tritan plastic - **Lid Type:** Flip hard straw - **Carabiner friendly:** Yes - **Insulated:** No - **Dishwasher safe:** Yes - **Spill proof when open:** No - **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07V3PS4ZF/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07V3PS4ZF&linkId=45204a2c616cd705b423a3e7dd943766)** --- ### 8. [HomTune Girls Water Bottles](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07T44WP7H/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07T44WP7H&linkId=34822bd3c55bfab0224c0777bdd3495e) **Best For:** Slightly older girls who won’t put it through too much abuse [![Cute Water Bottle for School Kids Girls, BPA FREE Tritan & Leak Proof & Easy Clean & Carry Handle, 23oz/ 680ml - Mermaid](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41F6XKz2T2L._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T44WP7H?tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) This brand makes lot of super cute water bottles with girly designs.  They are generally a good quality. However, I’d only recommend them for slightly older girls. The flip lid can accidentally open. Because it has a spout and not a straw, the water can quickly spill out. - **Size:** 23oz - **Material:** BPA free Tritan plastic - **Lid Type:** Spout with flip cap - **Carabiner friendly:** Yes - **Insulated:** No - **Dishwasher safe:** Yes - **Spill proof when open:** No - [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07T44WP7H/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07T44WP7H&linkId=34822bd3c55bfab0224c0777bdd3495e) ## Kids Water Bottle FAQ: #### What size water bottle is best for little kids? 12oz is the sweet spot for toddlers and kids up to about age five small enough to fit in little hands without being too heavy when full. Anything larger is usually too wide for small hands and increases spill risk. Once your child is older and more coordinated, 16oz gives more capacity without much extra bulk. #### Is stainless steel or plastic better for kids water bottles? Both work well for camping and hiking. Stainless steel like Hydro Flask or Yeti is more durable, keeps water cold longer, and doesn’t absorb odors. Plastic like Nalgene or Zulu is lighter, cheaper, and easier to check the water level. For little kids who drop and throw things, stainless steel holds up better — but weight matters if your child is carrying their own bottle. #### What makes a water bottle easy for toddlers to use? A push-button or flip-top lid they can operate with one hand, a soft or hard straw rather than a wide mouth spout, and a body narrow enough for small hands to grip. Screw tops and sports caps are the worst for toddlers too hard to open and close reliably. #### Are kids water bottles dishwasher safe? Most of the ones reviewed here are, but always check the lid separately some lids need to be hand-washed even when the bottle body is dishwasher safe. Straw lids in particular accumulate mold in the straw channel if not cleaned thoroughly after every use. --- ###### Image credit: “[my new water bottle](https://www.flickr.com/photos/15624270@N03/8525612921/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [daisyelaine](https://www.flickr.com/people/15624270@N03/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [Oukitel Rugged Phones Review (Field Tested)](https://momgoescamping.com/oukitel-rugged-phones-review/) **Published:** January 15, 2024 **Author:** Diane **Content:** When Oukitel first asked me to review one of their smartphones, I was a bit confused.  I write about camping and backpacking. What do phones have to do with that?  Then I saw the Oukitel rugged phone selection and got excited. Yes, I wanted one of these. It didn’t hurt that my current phone was on its last legs and I needed a new phone anyway. 🙂 I picked the WP19 phone because it has massive battery capacity.  Full disclosure that they sent it to me for free to try.  Here’s my review of it. [![oukitel wp19 phone](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/oukitel-wp19-phone.jpg "oukitel wp19 phone - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/oukitel-wp19-phone.jpg) ## Quick Verdict: Oukitel phones have tons of features that make them awesome for outdoorsy people like me. I particularly love the night vision camera and that the phone is completely waterproof (it can even take photos underwater!). The reverse charging feature lets me use the phone as a powerbank with an OTG cable.   The WP19 model has a 20,000mAh battery, so there’s certainly power to spare! But, since it weighs in at 578g and is MASSIVE, I wish I would have chosen either the WP27 or WP21 model instead. **Check them out at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/48L1sNK)** Pros - Waterproof and drop-proof - Night vision camera - Massive battery - Reverse charging - Affordable - Nice display - Built in gyroscope, barometer and more Cons - Heavy and bulky - Buttons sometimes stick - Most models are 4G - Fingerprint unlock glitchy - Bad speakers ## Oukitel Rugged Phones Comparison The Oukitel website is kind of terrible. There is no way to filter the phones by features or specs, so you’ve got to comb through each product description yourself. A lot of the product descriptions are also a mess. Some descriptions are actually images instead of text, so I couldn’t even search for text such as “night vision” on the page! That’s simply bad UI. For example, it took me forever to figure out that all the Oukitel phones support reverse charging and are waterproof. **Here’s a comparison table of the main specs of Oukitel rugged phones.** \[table id=92 /\] **See more details at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/48L1sNK)** ## Which Oukitel Rugged Phone Is Best? As mentioned, I regret choosing the WP19 model.  Yes, it has a massive battery of 20,000mAh.  However, at 20.1oz, it is simply too heavy and bulky to be practical to carry.  I’d rather carry around a smaller model plus a power bank.  My Nitecore Slim powerbank has 10,000mAh and weighs just 5.3oz. **Instead, I would recommend these models of Oukitel phones:** - **WP27:** Still heavy but manageable. It has 33W fast charge and 12GB RAM. - **WP22:** This one has good speakers and a mini projector! But the main camera is only 48MB. - **WP30 Pro:** It’s 413g but has a fantastic 108MB main camera, NFC, 120W fast charge and 24GB ram. There is even a back display! ## Features Overview Since I’m not much of a tech person, I’m not going to go over the technical details of Oukitel phones. Instead, I’ll focus on the unique features that make Oukitel phones cool for camping, field work, construction and other “rugged” uses. ### Waterproof All Oukitel phones are rated to IP68 waterproofness.  That means it can be completely submerged in water down to 1.5m (almost 5 feet) for 30 minutes. I’m not sure when I’d actually need to go swimming with my phone, but I was ecstatic to realize that I could also take underwater pictures with my Oukitel phone.  It’s winter now, so I haven’t had time to test out the feature much, but the phone definitely works underwater.  I can’t wait to take pictures of lake creatures. 🙂 ![oukitel phone underwater](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/oukitel-phone-underwater.jpg "oukitel phone underwater - Mom Goes Camping")Testing the waterproof feature of my Oukitel phone Theres an underwater camera setting ### Drop Proof Oukitel phones are rated to MIL-STD-810 drop-proofness. This is a military test which ensures that gear is “combat ready .  With the Oukitel phones, this specifically means you can drop them from 1.5 meters without damaging the phone, even on hard surfaces like steel. I did not test this myself!  My old phone is complete crap and I didn’t want to risk breaking this one. However, the phone’s casing is so damn tough that I’m confident it would survive drops on hard dirt or even concrete without a problem. I’m not so sure the screen would survive a drop if it hit a sharp object on the way down.  But, again, I didn’t test this. ### Battery Capacity Oukitel has some of the largest-capacity batteries of any phones available.  Their smallest phone has 6,300mAh and the largest is 22,000mAh. To put this in perspective, smartphones with “good” battery life have around 4,000mAh. The huge battery capacity means you don’t have to worry about your phone dying or bother carrying around a power bank. #### Standby Time For the WP19, the advertised standby time is over 2,500 hours. I actually got to test this out.  The company sent me the phone from China.  It spent about 10 days in transit.  But, when it arrived, there was a big postal worker strike where I live. The phone was stuck at customs for at least 35 days before I finally got it. But the battery was still at 82%! #### Usage Time The Oukitel WP19 advertises 36H of video, 123H of music, or 122H of calling. While I didn’t fully test this, it does seem legit. For example, I watched approximately 2.5 hours of streaming video with headphones on a train ride.  The battery went from 92% to 85%.  That’s 2.8% drainage for each hour of video, which would completely drain the battery in 35.7 hours. Of course, battery usage isn’t that clear-cut.  Like how batteries tend to drain faster as they get closer to empty.  But you’ll definitely get tons of usable time out of the massive Oukitel batteries. ### Cameras[![oukitel rugged phone camera](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/oukitel-camera.jpg "oukitel camera - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/oukitel-camera.jpg) There are four cameras on my WP19 Oukitel phone: - 64MB main camera - 20MB night vision camera - 2MP macro camera - 16MP selfie camera The main camera has some nice features like AI, ultra-wide mode, slow motion video, underwater, panorama mode, selfi panorama…  I’m not a tech person so couldn’t tell you what the sensor info means. I was slightly disappointed that you can’t do night vision selfies (because, duh, the night vision camera is only on the rear!).  I still tried to do night selfies, but it’s really awkward to do. **Below are some pictures I took with the Oukitel WP19.** ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/oukitel-night-vision-camera-2.jpg "oukitel night vision camera 2 - Mom Goes Camping")Night vision camera on the WP19![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/oukitel-night-vision-camera.jpg "oukitel night vision camera - Mom Goes Camping")Another night vision shot this time of my tent![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/oukitel-selfie-camera-in-the-rain.jpg "oukitel selfie camera in the rain - Mom Goes Camping")Selfie in the rain and mud 😀 ### Reverse Charge This is what initially got me excited about Oukitel phones.  All of the models support OTG (on-the-go) so can be used as a powerbank to charge other devices.  That means one less thing to bring on my backpacking trips. Using the phone as a power bank is easy: just connect the two devices with an OTG cable.  The other device will start charging. My Oukitel phone came with a USB-C to USB-C  OTC cable.  The problem is that pretty much all of the devices I’d need to charge while camping (headlamps, Kindle…) use micro-USB.   So, I had to buy a [USB-C to Micro-USB OTG cable](https://amzn.to/48U8zmR).  Not a big deal, but kind of annoying anyway.                                                             **Heading out soon?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup. **[                                                             Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** ### Other Cool Features My WP19 had all of these built-in features.  I think all of the other models all have these features.  Do check though! As mentioned, the product descriptions aren’t very clear. - Barometer - Proximity sensor - Accelerometer - Gyroscope - Electronic compass - Coulombmeter These features mean that the Oukitel phones are able to do things like find a plumb line, measure angles… The phone comes with a “ToolBag” app with some of these. [![oukitel tool set](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/oukitel-tool-set-449x1024.jpg "oukitel tool set - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/oukitel-tool-set.jpg) ## Things I Don’t Like about the Oukitel WP19 ### Stupidly Heavy and Bulky The Oukitel WP19 weighs 20.1oz (570 grams).  I put it on a scale and it was actually a bit heavier than this. At 2.9cm, it is also as thick as two smartphones.   This is annoying as hell to carry around and definitely won’t fit comfortably in a jeans pocket. I joke that it’s actually good that the phone weighs so much because I can’t endlessly scroll online – my hand gets too tired. The other models of Oukitel phones are better in terms of weight and size.  If I could do it over, I’d get the WP27. **To put this in perspective:** \[table id=93 /\] **Bottom line?** You might not mind the weight if you are doing serious field work with this phone.  But, if you want to use it in everyday life, it’s too heavy and bulky.  I’d rather carry a smaller phone and a separate power bank. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/oukitel-rugged-phone-weight-1.jpg "oukitel phone on scale for weight - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/oukitel-rugged-phone-weight-1.jpg)At over 570g20oz I wish I had gotten one of the lighter Oukitel phones even if it meant less battery capacity[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/oukitel-size.jpg "oukitel phone thickness - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/oukitel-size.jpg)Look how thick the WP19 is ### Side Fingerprint Unlock Glitchy The Oukitel WP19 and other rugged phones have two ways to unlock: facial recognition and a side fingerprint unlock. The facial recognition works perfectly, even in low light.  However, the side fingerprint unlock is a bit gliltchy. That’s not too surprising considering how small the button is. You have to get your finger on it perfectly. I wonder if Oukitel did this on purpose.  Back in 2010 (when they were still a new company), a lot of people complained that the fingerprint unlock was too sensitive and the phone would unlock if you brushed it. ### “On” Button Gets Stuck Another annoying thing is that the on button sometimes gets stuck, causing the phone to restart. ### Okay Quality Speakers The speaker quality on my WP19 is far from great.  If you want to listen to music without headphones on your phone, you should get the WP22 model.  It has better speakers and also a mini projector.  I didn’t test that one out, but it sounds cool for watching movies outdoors. ## Oukitel Rugged Phone FAQ: #### Is Oukitel a good brand? For rugged outdoor use, yes the waterproofing, drop protection, and battery capacity are genuinely impressive for the price. The tradeoff is build quality on small things like buttons and fingerprint sensors, and the phone software feels less polished than Samsung or Google. If you need a phone that can take a beating and last for days without charging, Oukitel delivers. #### Which Oukitel phone is best for camping? The WP27 is the best balance of battery, weight, and features for most campers 8,500mAh, 11.6oz, night vision camera, and 33W fast charge. The WP19 has a massive 21,000mAh battery but at 20oz it’s impractical for hiking. The WP30 Pro 5G is the best camera option at 108MP with a back display. #### Are Oukitel phones waterproof? All Oukitel WP-series phones are rated IP68, meaning they can be submerged to 1.5 meters (about 5 feet) for up to 30 minutes. They also have an underwater camera mode. Oukitel phones can take photos and videos completely submerged, which is genuinely useful for camping near water. #### Can Oukitel phones charge other devices? Yes, all Oukitel WP-series phones support OTG reverse charging, meaning you can use them as a power bank to charge other devices via a USB-C cable. The larger battery models (WP19, WP21) have enough capacity to charge a headlamp, Kindle, or GPS several times over on a multi-day trip. #### How do Oukitel phones compare to CAT phones? Oukitel wins on battery capacity and price a mid-range Oukitel has 2-3x the battery of a CAT phone at a lower price point. CAT phones win on software polish, customer support, and overall build quality. For camping and field use where battery life is the priority, Oukitel is the better choice. For corporate rugged use with IT support, CAT is more reliable. ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [Where Is Wild Camping Legal in Europe? Laws by Country (2026)](https://momgoescamping.com/wild-camping-laws-europe/) **Published:** June 15, 2017 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I love wild camping in Europe, but had yet to find a complete list of wild camping laws for every country.  So, I decided to make one. Read more about camping in eastern europe below: [Tips for Camping in Eastern Europe](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-eastern-europe/) ## Wild Camping Laws at a Glance | Country | Status | Notes | |---|---|---| | **Albania** | ✅ Legal/Tolerated | Widely practiced, very hospitable locals | | **Andorra** | ❌ Illegal | Only allowed near full huts | | **Armenia** | ✅ Legal | Welcoming locals, beware stray dogs | | **Austria** | ⚠️ Restricted | One-night bivouac only in unprotected forest | | **Belarus** | ✅ Legal | 40% forest coverage, plentiful spots | | **Belgium** | ❌ Illegal | Limited nature; pole camping routes exist | | **Bosnia** | ✅ Legal | ⚠️ Landmine risk — avoid untended land | | **Bulgaria** | ⚠️ Tolerated | Technically illegal but widely tolerated | | **Croatia** | ❌ Illegal | Tolerated in remote areas; be discreet | | **Czech Republic** | ⚠️ Restricted | One night, no tent, unrestricted areas only | | **Denmark** | ❌ Illegal | Pole camping routes available | | **Estonia** | ✅ Legal | Strong public access culture | | **Finland** | ✅ Legal | Liberal access laws; no campfires | | **France** | ⚠️ Restricted | Bivouac camping allowed; check park rules | | **Georgia** | ✅ Legal | Plenty of remote spots; beware sheep dogs | | **Germany** | ❌ Illegal | Strictly enforced; bivvy sack one night only | | **Greece** | ⚠️ Tolerated | Illegal but tolerated in mountains | | **Hungary** | ⚠️ Tolerated | Limited wild land; ask permission | | **Iceland** | ✅ Legal | Tents only; RVs/caravans not included | | **Ireland** | ❌ Illegal | Tolerated in remote areas | | **Italy** | ❌ Illegal | Poorly tolerated; some remote exceptions | | **Kosovo** | ✅ Legal | Very welcoming; stunning nature | | **Latvia** | ✅ Legal | Outside protected areas | | **Lithuania** | ✅ Legal | Encouraged | | **Luxembourg** | ❌ Illegal | Strictly enforced | | **Montenegro** | ⚠️ Tolerated | Avoid national parks and beaches | | **Netherlands** | ❌ Illegal | Legal pole camping routes available | | **Norway** | ✅ Legal | Up to 2 nights, 150m from buildings | | **Poland** | ❌ Illegal | Enforced in popular mountain areas | | **Portugal** | ❌ Illegal | Off-season tolerated away from touristy areas | | **Romania** | ⚠️ Tolerated | Widely practiced; small fine possible | | **Russia** | ✅ Legal | Except private and church lands | | **Serbia** | ✅ Legal | Very hospitable; avoid national parks | | **Slovakia** | ⚠️ Restricted | Illegal in level 3+ protected areas | | **Slovenia** | ⚠️ Tolerated | Avoid popular tourist areas | | **Spain** | ⚠️ Restricted | Varies by region; fines can be steep | | **Sweden** | ✅ Legal | Up to 2 nights; campfires allowed with care | | **Switzerland** | ⚠️ Tolerated | Technically illegal; ask local police first | | **Turkey** | ⚠️ Tolerated | Not enforced; avoid beach resorts | | **Ukraine** | ⚠️ Check advisories | Active conflict zone — check travel advisories | | **England/Wales** | ❌ Illegal | Exception: Dartmoor | | **Scotland** | ✅ Legal | Land Reform Act 2003; check local exceptions | Let me just preface this by saying that paid campgrounds definitely have their place.  Campgrounds are great for people who are just getting started with camping and don’t have a [water filter](https://momgoescamping.com/sawyer-mini-water-filter-review/) or know basics like how to poop in the woods.  And there was [that time I got sick while wild camping](https://momgoescamping.com/get-sick-camping/).  I was happy to have a paid campground to go to where I could puke in a proper toilet. With that said, I firmly believe that [wild camping beats campgrounds](https://momgoescamping.com/wild-camping-photos/). Aside from the fact that wild camping is free (and thus makes the outdoors more accessible to everyone), it also means that you’ve got a chance to completely disconnect, get away from the crowds, and don’t have to worry about annoying camping neighbors blasting music as they get drunk all night… I am lucky enough to live in the Balkans where wild camping is legal in most countries.  For any of you who are in Europe or want to visit, here is a list of the wild camping laws of every country in Europe. \***Just because wild camping is “illegal” in some countries**, **it doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t do it.**  I know many travelers who have wild camped all over the place (including not-so-wild places like city parks).  If you are discreet and respectful, no one is likely to bother you.  Even if the police do come, they will probably just tell you to leave.  I’m sure some people have gotten fined, but I don’t know of any.  So, it is up to you to decide whether the risk of getting a fine is going to detract you from trying wild camping! --- **Want gourmet meals on the trail?** My dehydrator recipes ebook has 50+ calorie-dense backpacking recipes, just add hot water. **[Get it here ](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck)** ![quinoa chili backpacking meal](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/quinoa-chili.jpg "quinoa chili - Mom Goes Camping") *This pumpkin quinoa chili only weighs 3oz for a 330 calorie serving.* --- ## Albania Albanians have a habit of ignoring traffic laws, smoking regulations, and pretty much any rule.  So, if there is a wild camping law on the book, no one is paying any attention to it.  The country is full of wild places where you can easily camp.  I personally have wild camped in Albania a few times and loved it (my favorite country for camping).  The only time you might have trouble finding a wild camping spot is on the beach in the summer.  I recommend [Gjipe Beach](https://momgoescamping.com/gjipe-beach-albania/). ## Andorra Wild camping is illegal in Andorra.  It is only allowed around a hut during the night when the hut is full. ## Armenia Wild camping is legal in Armenia.  Locals tend to be very hospitable and curious, so be prepared for some locals to come check out your tent and invite you home for coffee.  There is plenty of wild land in remote areas – but beware of wolves and animals!  Stray dogs can be a problem in the countryside. ## Austria Wild camping in Austria is not legal.  However, if you are in unprotected forest (not in a National Park or reserve), you may set up a “planned bivouac” for *one* night.  So, tents are not permitted nor are bivvy sacks for more than one night.  You can read more on the topic [here](https://outdoors.stackexchange.com/questions/1885/am-i-allowed-to-sleep-in-the-wild-in-the-austrian-alps). ## Belarus The country’s constitution states that all forest and farm lands are publicly owned, thus you are able to wild camp legally. Apparently 40% of the country is covered by forest, so there are plenty of places for wild camping! In remote and less populated Northern districts of Belarus the wild camping is especially convenient, as there’re numerous lakes, with quiet and uncrowded camping spots and beaches. Fishing is popular there, so almost every lake has a nice spot somewhere on the shore suitable for wild camping. Beware of forest fires, which are quite common in Belarus. In case of fire danger it’s illegal to enter the forest, and many forest tracks are blocked by officials. The real-time map of such restrictions is found here: [http://www.mlh.by/maps/map.php](http://www.mlh.by/maps/map.php?fbclid=IwAR1WaQ0lEs8OEw0-cXtxhU7IEsuJ6WounJCDPbKpxq-Nxa8XfqRBZOvwvfQ) ## Belgium There isn’t much forest or nature in Belgium, so it is no surprise that wild camping is illegal.  However, there is a “hidden route” where pole camping is allowed. You can find more info [here](http://www.bivakzone.be/). ## Bosnia and Herzegovina Wild camping is legal.  However, there are still a lot of landmines buried in Bosnia.  Never camp on land which has obviously not been tended in a long time.  And obviously never camp on land surrounded by those “Beware of Mines” signs! ## Bulgaria I’ve read conflicted information about whether wild camping is legal or illegal in Bulgaria.  Even if it is officially illegal, wild camping is still very tolerated.  Speaking from experience, locals are very hospitable and I even had locals drive me to a wild camping spot in a cave and then come back later to bring me chocolate. 🙂 ## Croatia Croatians live off of tourism, especially on the coast.  So, be prepared to find big “No Camping” signs all over the place.  However, just because the laws state otherwise, it is still perfectly possible to find remote places in Croatia for wild camping – just be discreet! ## Cyprus I couldn’t find out the legal status for wild camping in Cyprus.  However, I was told by a local that you can wild camp all around the island so long as it is not in a protected area (I’m assuming he didn’t mean 10 meters from a beach-front hotel though).  Apparently, the worst that can happen is that a forest ranger will come and ask you to leave. What Cyprus IS really strict about is fires.  If you light a fire, expect to get a 600 euro fine! ## Czech Republic Czech basically have the same wild camping laws as Austria.  It is permitted – but only in unrestricted areas for 1 night and without a tent. ## Denmark In Denmark, wild camping is NOT legal.  If you are caught camping outside of a campground, expect to pay fines. However, there are some places where you can “pole camp” legally.  You can find a map [here](http://naturstyrelsen.dk/naturoplevelser/overnatning/fri-teltning/#{%22x%22:522956.80000000005,%22y%22:6233907.200000001,%22zoom%22:4,%22categories%22:%5B%229%22%5D}). ## Estonia Estonia has great public access laws.  Wild camping is permitted on government lands (called Riigimets) – though some National Parks might have restrictions.  There is a big culture of wild camping and you shouldn’t have any problems from locals.  Note that the National Forest Center (RMK) has many official campsites which even have latrines, so you don’t even have to camp wild to camp free. ## Finland Finland (like most Nordic countries) has liberal public access laws, as well as most Nordic countries, though there may be restrictions in certain areas. You are allowed to wild camp outside the towns and public beaches without permission, so long as you don’t cause disturbance to the land owner. In practice this means that you need to stay a suitable distance from homes and cabins, shall not be seen by others, and you shall not stay on one place for more than couple of days. Wild campfires are forbidden. **Exclusions:**  The exclusion of this rule is camping within or near the Laavu or Kota shelters scattered throughout the country, which are usually equipped with toilet, fireplace and firewood. (But presence of water source isn’t always guaranteed.) There the short-term camping (up to a couple of days on one place) is completely legal and encouraged. The GPX coordinates of such shelters can be downloaded here: [http://laavu.org](https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Flaavu.org%2F%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR1QbgORvAMHPs3hfvOp2QNL7xmWLcGWD00Kp98bWGG87GBA40WgPXPnb2s&h=AT09Ez_FYPY8vxM7EfzBY0RMdK6vRL_HVnGi7_ruGSkeTNhjgzAb4V8x6ZwI0WAhDbPXlW8P-FcfMMGFy6SAT1fo7UfRNEV2paIQpnZqD3XZoB-njQoGLce4aBlnQBiYA1E) In the province of Aland, the right to wild camp isn’t recognized.  As a rule you shall ask the permission from the land owner. Also the fresh water sources are quite scarce on islands, so you’d better consider the official campsites. ## France Wild camping in France is regulated under Articles [R111-32](https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichCodeArticle.do;jsessionid=72438650935D8EFB22CA6F8EB9CD3A02.tplgfr34s_1?cidTexte=LEGITEXT000006074075&idArticle=LEGIARTI000031721244&dateTexte=20191105&categorieLien=id#LEGIARTI000031721244), [R111-33](https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichCodeArticle.do;jsessionid=1DA55BBD2310C166948D6D6454991938.tplgfr30s_2?cidTexte=LEGITEXT000006074075&idArticle=LEGIARTI000031721242&dateTexte=20191105&categorieLien=id#LEGIARTI000031721242) and [R111-34](https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichCodeArticle.do;jsessionid=1DA55BBD2310C166948D6D6454991938.tplgfr30s_2?cidTexte=LEGITEXT000006074075&idArticle=LEGIARTI000031721240&dateTexte=20191105&categorieLien=id#LEGIARTI000031721240).  You can click the links to read the laws.  They are written in French and, even if you speak the language, are pretty confusing.  Here’s the gist of what you need to know: The wild camping laws in France are mostly designed to prevent long-term camping and caravans.  You will NOT be able to go somewhere and set up a multi-day camp (or a single-day camp with a big tent, chairs, table, etc.). However, camping that is done as part of a backpacking trip is generally allowed.  Thus, France basically invented a term for this: *bivouac.* Bivouac refers to campers who are just staying overnight, usually as part of a trek and with just a small tent.  Of course, you are expected to Leave No Trace.  Bivouac camping doesn’t necessarily mean you have to stay in a bivy bag though. Even this type of wild camping isn’t always going to be allowed though.  Here are some guidelines if you want to wild camp without problems in France: - **Check regulations when going to regional or national parks.**  Each park has its own rules and they will be enforced! More on [France’s national park rules here](http://www.parcsnationaux.fr/fr/des-connaissances/protection-et-reglementation). - **Don’t camp if there’s a “No Camping” sign up:** The sign was put up for a reason and the rule will probably be enforced. - **Be very discreet!** Stay away from main roads, paid campgrounds, and popular attractions. Definitely stay away from historic sites. - **Ask permission when camping on someone’s land.** - **Don’t make a fire.** If you must, keep it small and be very safe. - **When in doubt**, pitch the tent at dusk and take it down immediately in the morning. [This website](https://www.lecampingsauvage.fr/legislation-et-reglementation/camping-sauvage-bivouac) has good information about bivouac camping in France, including a map of France’s national and regional parks along with info about their camping rules. ## Georgia Wild camping is legal and you will find plenty of very remote places for camping.  I personally have never wild camped in Georgia, but I heard that you should avoid camping near flocks of sheep because the sheep are guarded by aggressive dogs! ## Germany Wild camping is illegal in Germany. You are allowed to sleep one night in a bivvy sack outside of private property and not on nature reserves or restricted areas.  You *might* be able to wild camp with a tarp tent.  However, whether that counts as a tent is up to the discretion of whoever found you. Be warned that anti-camping laws are actually enforced!!! ## Greece Wild camping is illegal in Greece.  However, wild camping is tolerated in many areas.  In the mountains (not in a National Park), for example, you should not have a problem.  The hardest part is trying to find a wild camping spot on the beach because so much beach property is owned by hotels and overridden with tourists. ## Hungary I found conflicting information about whether wild camping is illegal or legal in Hungary.  However, I personally have wild camped in Hungary a couple of times and never had any problems.  Just note that there aren’t too many wild places in Hungary.  You’ll probably be near villages.  Either ask for permission or go somewhere really hidden. ## Iceland According to the Visit Iceland website, wild camping is legal if you find yourself away from registered campsites.  In residential areas, you are allowed to pitch up to three tents on uncultivated land for one night only.  In the highlands, you can pitch as many tents as you want and there are no listed restrictions for how long you can camp.  Note that these laws only apply to tents and not to RVs or caravans. ## Ireland Wild camping in Ireland is not legal.  Most land is privately owned and expect a lot of fences, walls, and locked gates.  In remote places, however, wild camping is tolerated – such as for cyclists going long distances. ## Italy Wild camping is illegal in Italy.  It apparently isn’t very well tolerated, though you might be able to find some places north of Rome and in the South where you can get away with it. ## Kosovo Wild camping is legal in Kosovo and very well tolerated.  Locals are hospitable and the nature is gorgeous! I recommend visiting Rugova Gorge. ## Latvia Latvia has great public access laws.  You are allowed to wild camp, so long as you are outside of designated protected areas. ## Liechtenstein Wild camping is illegal. You could try wild camping in one of their banks though and see how they like it 😉 ## Lithuania Like with other Baltic countries, wild camping is legal and even encouraged. ## Luxembourg Wild camping is illegal and strictly enforced (no surprise here). ## Macedonia I read that wild camping is illegal in Macedonia (not so sure if the source is correct though).  Even if it is illegal, wild camping is well tolerated and you won’t have a hard time finding remote areas.  Like elsewhere in the Balkans, locals are also very hospitable.  However, due to recent animosity towards refugees, you might want to be careful about wild camping near the border — especially if you have dark skin and might be mistaken for a refugee.  Yeah, racism sucks. 🙁 ## Malta Not only is wild camping illegal in Malta, but camping in general is not encouraged.  There are only a couple official campsites on the island.  However, according to [this article](https://www.airmalta.com/destinations/malta/best-of-malta/walking-and-trekking/camping-sites-in-malta-and-gozo) from Air Malta, you can get special permission from the local council where you want to go to wild camp. An old article from Livinginmalta.com (unfortunately no longer live) has some better info.  The article basically said that wild camping is illegal, but you can still do it: > “On the Maltese islands there are several locations to camp out. The Ta’ Cenc area close to the village of Sannat in Gozo is a protected site, but often you will see tents pitched high on the cliffs. L’ Ahrax peninsula in the north of Malta has many spots ideal for pitching a tent, with lots of shaded woodland. The area beyond Bahrija in the west of Malta is quite remote and has some impressive bays and dramatic scenery. The island of Comino is virtually uninhabited and provides many opportunities for getting away it all, and as previously mentioned, there are basic facilities at one of the sandy bays. It’s not possible to camp just anywhere in Malta, and you will need to look out for signs, but in the more remote areas, pitching a tent in the wild is quite easy.” ## Moldova I can’t find any info about whether wild camping is officially legal or not, but sources do say that wild camping in Moldova is tolerated. ## Montenegro Wild camping is technically illegal in Montenegro (or at least that is what I read).  However, outside of National Parks, touristy areas, and the beach, you will have no problem wild camping.  I am speaking from experience! 🙂 ## Netherlands Wild camping is illegal in the Netherlands. However, the Forestry Commission has established a system of “legal wild camping” using pole camping.  You can read more about wild camping in the Netherlands [here](http://henkvandillen.net/en/how-to-wild-camp-for-free-and-legal-in-the-netherlands/). ## Norway Wild camping in Norway isn’t just legal, it is encouraged.  The country has one of the most liberal public-access laws and a culture which believes in man’s right to nature.  Under the law, you are allowed to wild camp for up to two nights on *uncultivated land* no closer than 150 meters from a house or a cabin.  That means land which is not tilled or in use (such as for crops or farm houses).  In mountainous areas, you are allowed to wild camp legally for longer. ## Poland Wild camping in Poland is illegal.   You are probably thinking of the Tatra and Karkonosze Mountains if you want to wild camp.  Unfortunately, those mountains are very crowded and there is a good chance you will get caught if you wild camp there.  You aren’t even allowed off the paths at those mountains.  However, you might be able to find secluded places in other parts of Poland (outside of National Parks) where you could get away with wild camping. ## Portugal Wild camping is illegal in Portugal.  However, outside of the summer (and away from touristy places), you can apparently get away with wild camping. It’s a bit of a grey area. ## Romania Wild camping is illegal in Romania, but it is widely tolerated and you shouldn’t have any problems – especially outside of reserves.  Apparently, the worst that is going to happen is that some forest rangers might ask you to move or pay a small fee (like 2-3 euros) for camping.  Campfires are illegal, but also not enforced. ## Russia Wild camping is legal in Russia, except on church lands, private lands, and near water reservoirs.  I was told by a local that there is a “Federal Law granting free unmotorized access and camping within 20 meters from waterline of almost all lakes, rivers, and seas. Even the private land owner cannot legally claim this 20-meter strip (unfortunately they do it illegally quite often). The only exception is a handful of lakes which are surrounded by private lands, but it’s extremely rare case. The private land is always recognized by a tall wall, so you cannot mistake it.  Also the nature reserves may have their own rules regarding the camping (like in the rest of the world). The campfires are generally allowed (as well as getting the firewood for personal campfire), except for the hottest months, when there is severe risk of fires. But most people disobey these restrictions, which are not enforced, except for in nature reserves.” ## Serbia There aren’t any laws about wild camping.  If there are, they aren’t being enforced. :p  The only times you might have problems wild camping in Serbia is if you are in a National Park or Reserve.  Camping is usually forbidden there. Note that Serbians are very hospitable.  If they see you wild camping or you ask to camp in their field, they will probably invite you inside. ## Slovakia Wild camping in Slovakia is legal.  However, it is illegal in areas with a level 3 protection and above (meaning you can’t wild camp in the High Tatras or national parks).  You also aren’t allowed to wild camp in forests – but “forests” is defined by the map, not presence of trees.  I was told that wild camping in forests (even ones marked on the maps) is tolerated.  Be careful about making a fire though – that is generally prohibited. ## Slovenia Wild camping is technically forbidden in Slovenia, but it is widely practiced and tolerated. However, you probably shouldn’t try to wild camp in the popular places (such as Lake Bled, Bohinj, and Triglav park).  In those places, you could end up with a fine. ## Spain Wild camping in Spain is complicated.  There is a “mother law” Article 46.1 of the order for July 28th which states that: > “Apart from tourist camp sites no more than three tents of caravans may be placed at the same location, nor should there be more then 10 campers, nor may the camp be in place for more than three days. Tents and (caravans) within 500 meters of each other are considered to be part of the same group.” The law also states that it is prohibited to free camp within 200 meters of the sea, within a few kilometers of military installations, within a few kilometers of a regular camp site, and in protected areas like national parks, natural parks, bird sanctuaries called ‘ZEPA’s, (Zona Excepcional de Protección de Avifauna), etc. However, there is the new law under the Spanish Constitution of 1978, which created seventeen ‘autonomous regions’ each with considerable, though varying, powers to make their own legal codes with their own territory. Under these new laws, wild camping in Spain is COMPLETELY PROHIBITED in: Andalucía, Aragón, Asturias, Extremadura, Galicia, Navarra, Valencia These areas have their own laws/permit requirements for wild camping: Cantabria, Murcia, La Rioja. These areas fall under national rules and wild camping IS permitted: Basque Country, Cataluña, Madrid, Castilla y León, Castilla la Mancha.  But in these areas you still can’t camp near the beach, in national parks, protected areas, etc.  Also, a lot of the land is privately owned, so you’d have a hard time finding anywhere that would even fall into the permitted wild camping areas. You can read more about wild camping in Spain [here](https://www.adventurebikerider.com/forum/26-travel/186349-wild-camping-controls-in-spain.html).  In the linked article, it says that the fine for illegal camping is 30 euros per square meter of space used, per day. If you are just looking for a place to camp for *free* but not necessarily *wild,* [this article](https://ocio.uncomo.com/articulo/como-conocer-las-zonas-de-acampada-libre-en-espana-6804.html) has recommendations. I’d avoid making a fire while wild camping in Spain.  The locals might turn a blind eye to wild campers in some areas, but the risk of forest fire is very real and the fire will likely quickly attract police!  And the [fines for illegal fires](https://www.euroweeklynews.com/2017/07/11/fines-and-tough-regulations-hit-spains-beaches-this-summer/) can be very steep – €3,000 in some areas. ## Sweden Wild camping is permitted.  In fact, Swedes are quite proud of their [rules which state](https://visitsweden.com/what-to-do/nature-outdoors/nature/sustainable-and-rural-tourism/the-right-of-public-access/) “don’t disturb, don’t destroy” and “freedom under responsibility”. You are allowed to leave your tent up for 2 days.  Campfires are permitted, but only if there isn’t a fire prohibition in place, and the fire is “under control” and “suitable equipment” is used. To see if there is a fire prohibition in place, you’ll need to check with Länsstyrelsen. There is also an app “[Brandrisk Ute](https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/brandrisk-ute/id521121507?mt=8)” that you can use to check if fire restrictions are in place – just use the map feature to see. ## Switzerland Wild camping in Switzerland is a bit of a gray zone.  While it is technically forbidden, it is tolerated in remote, wide-open places.  In some places though, the police are stricter – especially about camping along rivers, lakes, and reservoirs.  Apparently the best practice is to ask the local police first if it is okay for you to wild camp. ## Turkey There is conflicting information about whether wild camping in Turkey is legal or not.  If it is illegal though, the law is definitely not enforced.  You won’t have a problem camping pretty much anywhere in Turkey — even along roads and populated areas.  Obviously though, you’ll want to avoid any touristy areas like beach resorts (or be very stealth!).  Also, I’d avoid making a campfire in many areas since the risk of wildfires is often high.  Making a campfire could get you in trouble. ## Ukraine Wild camping in Ukraine is legal, though some national parks only allow camping in designated areas.  Even these rules apparently aren’t strictly enforced. Just note that you might need special permission to camp near border areas.  You don’t want border control to mistake you for a smuggler! ## United Kingdom (UK) ### England and Wales Wild camping is England and Wales is illegal almost everywhere, unless you have a special permission.  The exception is Dartmoor where the camping rights are written into the National Parks & Access to the Countryside Act.  However, wild camping is tolerated in some areas of England.  Read more about wild camping in England [here](https://www.campsites.co.uk/guides/wild-camping/wild-camping-in-england-and-wales). ### Northern Ireland There are major issues with accessing land in Northern Ireland since most of it is privately owned – even the hiking trails up popular mountains. Basically, you have to ask permission to even hike nevertheless camp.  Here is what I found: > *‘Wild camping is only permitted in Northern Ireland with the landowner’s formal or tacit approval. There are no rights as exist elsewhere in Europe’* explains Ross Millar of the Countryside Access and Activities Network (CAAN). *‘In areas well used for hill walking, such as the Mourne Mountains, wild camping is relatively common but most of this is done on public land (Forest Service or Northern Ireland Water, a publically owned body) or lands which are in ‘commonage’. On purely private land, whilst strictly speaking permission should be gained from the owner, it is less common but largely tolerated. However, one problem that does exist in the Mournes is that due to their accessibility a lot of ‘wild camping’ is by youths who often leave considerable litter and damage. Discreet camping rarely causes any issues.’* ### Scotland Wild camping is legal in Scotland under the Land Reform Act of 2003.  You can basically wild camp anywhere.  However, do note that there are some exceptions.  For example, it is not permitted to wild camp on the island of Tiree in the Inner Hebrides and East Loch Lomond.  Do your research before you go! \*I did my best to research all of these laws.  If I made a mistake, please let me know so I can fix it!  And, of course, remember to be responsible and practice Leave No Trace whenever wild camping. Pin it! ![Wild camping laws of every country in Europe](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/wild-camping-laws-europe-pin-min.jpg "wild camping laws europe pin-min - Mom Goes Camping") ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety **Tags:** wild camping --- ### [Naturehike Cloud Up Tent Review: Five-Year Update](https://momgoescamping.com/naturehike-cloud-up-tent-review-five-year-update/) **Published:** November 19, 2025 **Author:** Diane **Content:** After five years and over 150 nights of real-world testing across three continents, I can confidently say the Naturehike Cloud Up 2 has become the tent I trust most for backpacking with my daughter Isabel. [ ![Orange Naturehike Cloud Up 2 tent set up in alpine meadow with mountain peaks in background during golden hour](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/cloud-up-2-tent-back-view.jpg "cloud-up-2-tent-back-view - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/cloud-up-2-tent-back-view.jpg) What started as an experiment with a budget ultralight tent in 2019 has evolved into a comprehensive understanding of how tents perform in conditions ranging from Scotland’s unpredictable weather to Norway’s midnight sun and Bulgaria’s mountain storms.  As a solo parent who carries most of our gear on family backpacking trips, I needed something that wouldn’t break my back or my budget. After investing in the Cloud Up 2, I was so impressed that I acquired the Cloud Up 3P version, along with Naturehike’s [Vik 1P for solo winter trips](https://momgoescamping.com/vik-1-person-tent-review/) and their [P Series 4P for car camping with the whole family](https://momgoescamping.com/naturehike-p-series-4p-tent-review/). This extensive experience across their entire lineup gives me unique insight into where the Cloud Up models excel and where they fall short. Both Cloud Up versions have endured conditions that would make any backpacker nervous: 60 mph gusts in the Scottish Highlands, a three-day storm in Norway’s Jotunheimen that never let up, sub-freezing nights at 10,000 feet in the Rockies, and one particularly memorable hail storm in Bulgaria that sounded like someone was throwing marbles at our shelter for thirty straight minutes. Through it all, we stayed dry and secure. ## Quick Verdict: Who Should (and Shouldn’t) Buy the Naturehike Cloud Up **Bottom Line:** After 150+ nights of testing, the Naturehike Cloud Up delivers exceptional ultralight performance at a fraction of premium tent prices, though you’ll need to accept some design compromises that become more noticeable over time. ### ✅ Perfect For: - Solo backpackers wanting gear storage space - Parent-child backpacking teams (like Isabel and me) - Budget-conscious hikers entering the ultralight world - Experienced backpackers needing reliable backup shelter - Three-season camping below treeline ### ⚠️ Look Elsewhere If: - You’re over 6 feet tall (I’m 5’4″ and it’s perfect for me) - You need premium materials for extreme conditions - Multiple doors are non-negotiable - You camp frequently in heavy snow Not sure if this tent matches your needs? Compare it with other [budget ultralight tents I’ve tested](https://momgoescamping.com/cheap-ultralight-tents/) to find your perfect shelter. **Shop the Cloud Up tents:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/4fnU1Ci) ## What is Naturehike? Understanding the Brand Behind the Budget Ultralight Revolution [![Naturehike Cloud Up Tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/pitching-tent.jpg "Naturehike Cloud Up Tent - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/pitching-tent.jpg) Before diving into my five-year experience with the Cloud Up, it’s worth understanding what makes Naturehike different from other budget gear brands flooding the market. Unlike many Chinese manufacturers that simply copy designs with cheaper materials, Naturehike has built a reputation for honest specifications and consistent quality control. I’ve weighed every Naturehike product I own on my kitchen scale, and the actual weights consistently match their advertised specs within 1-2 ounces – something I can’t say for many budget brands I’ve tested. Their customer service has also been responsive the few times I’ve needed replacement stakes or had questions about their newer models. [![naturehike lightweight tent scales](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/weight-of-footprint-for-cloud-up-3.jpg "weight-of-footprint-for-cloud-up-3 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/weight-of-footprint-for-cloud-up-3.jpg) ## Naturehike Cloud Up Complete Specifications: Real-World Numbers That Matter After weighing these tents repeatedly and measuring them in various conditions, here are the specifications that actually impact your backpacking experience: | Model | My Measured Weight | Usable Floor Space | Real Headroom | Current Price | |---|---|---|---|---| | [Cloud Up 2p (20D)](https://amzn.to/4v4iWQj) | 3.97 lbs (1.8 kg) | 83″ × 43″ front / 23″ back | 38″ (sitting) | $120-140 | | [Cloud Up 3p (20D)](https://amzn.to/4u9OeVL) | 4.85 lbs (2.2 kg) | 85″ × 65″ front / 47″ back | 45″ (comfortable sitting) | $140-160 | **Important Note:** I own the older gray 20D versions. The newer 10D ultralight versions save about 0.67 pounds but use thinner fabric that requires more careful handling – something to consider if you’re camping with kids who aren’t always gentle with gear. ####                                                  **Taking the kids camping for the first time?** My “Your Family’s First Camping Trip” bundle has the complete guide, printable packing checklist, and three done-for-you itineraries everything from booking the site to the drive home. **[                                                                         Get the bundle →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/1stcampingtrip)** ## Cloud Up 2 vs. Cloud Up 3: Critical Differences I’ve Discovered Through Extended Use Having spent considerable time in both models across different seasons and conditions, these are the differences that actually matter when you’re lying in your sleeping bag at 2 AM during a storm: ### The Game-Changing Crossbar (Cloud Up 3P Only) The Cloud Up 3P’s horizontal crossbar transforms this tent from good to exceptional. During a particularly wet week in Scotland where we spent three consecutive days tent-bound due to weather, the extra headroom made the difference between comfort and claustrophobia. The crossbar keeps the walls taut and dramatically increases usable space – I can actually sit up and change clothes without performing tent yoga. [![Cloud Up 2 tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/winter-camping-with-cloudup-2.jpg "Cloud Up 2 tent - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/winter-camping-with-cloudup-2.jpg) ### Ventilation That Actually Works My older Cloud Up 2 lacks the roof vent found in newer models, leading to some memorable mornings wiping condensation off the walls after humid nights. The Cloud Up 3P’s dual vents create noticeable airflow – during a muggy night in the Smoky Mountains with 90% humidity, my tentmate and I woke up dry while neighboring campers complained about dripping condensation. ### Wall Stability Over Time Here’s what Naturehike won’t tell you: after about 100 nights of use, the Cloud Up 2’s walls begin to sag noticeably, even with perfect pitch technique. I now carry two stuff sacks specifically to prop up the walls from inside. The Cloud Up 3P’s crossbar design has shown no such degradation after similar use. ## Weight Analysis: Understanding What You’re Actually Carrying Let’s talk about real trail weight versus marketing claims. When I plan my ultralight backpacking loadout, every ounce matters, especially when carrying gear for two people. ### Complete Weight Breakdown (What Goes in Your Pack) **Cloud Up 2P Full Kit:** - Tent body with poles: 3.2 lbs - Footprint (recommended): 8.5 oz - Stakes and guy lines: 5.3 oz - **Total packed weight: 3.97 lbs** **Cloud Up 3P Full Kit:** - Tent body with poles: 3.85 lbs - Footprint (essential): 12 oz - Stakes and guy lines: 4.9 oz - **Total packed weight: 4.85 lbs** For comparison, my Big Agnes Fly Creek UL2 (which costs 3x more) weighs 2.9 lbs with footprint – saving just over a pound for an extra $250+. That weight savings matters for thru-hikers, but for weekend warriors and budget-conscious backpackers, the Cloud Up’s value proposition is compelling. ### Smart Weight Distribution for Partners When backpacking with Isabel or adult partners, we split the load: one person carries poles and stakes (1.2 lbs), the other takes tent body and fly (2.8 lbs). This modular approach has proven invaluable when one person needs a lighter pack due to injury or fitness differences. ## Interior Space Reality: Lessons from 150+ Nights Marketing claims about tent capacity are notoriously optimistic. Here’s what I’ve learned about actual usable space after camping with various combinations of people and gear: ### Cloud Up 2P: The “1.5 Person” Tent Perfect scenarios I’ve tested: - **Solo with luxury:** Sprawl out with gear inside, boots in vestibule, and room for midnight snack raids without leaving your sleeping bag - **Parent + child (up to age 12):** Isabel and I fit comfortably with our gear until she hit her growth spurt at 13 - **Two small adults who really like each other:** My hiking partner and I (both under 5’6″) manage, but it’s intimate During a five-day solo trip in Norway, the extra space let me wait out a 36-hour storm in relative comfort, with my pack, food, and wet gear all under cover. Try that in a true one-person tent and you’ll understand why I recommend sizing up. [![cloud-up-2-and-3-side-by-side-without-flies](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/cloud-up-2-and-3-side-by-side-without-flies.jpg "cloud-up-2-and-3-side-by-side-without-flies - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/cloud-up-2-and-3-side-by-side-without-flies.jpg) ### Cloud Up 3P: The Goldilocks Solution This is the tent I wish I’d bought first. Two adults fit comfortably with room to actually move around. During a week-long trip with my adult hiking partner, we never felt cramped despite spending several tent-bound afternoons waiting out thunderstorms. The marketing calls it a 3-person tent, but unless you’re camping with two small children, treat it as a spacious 2-person shelter. ## Setup Mastery: Tips from Hundreds of Pitches One of the Cloud Up’s best features is its intuitive setup, but I’ve learned tricks that make it even faster and more storm-worthy: ### My 5-Minute Setup Method 1. **Site selection (30 seconds):** Look for natural windbreaks and slight crown for drainage – lessons learned from [weathering thunderstorms while camping](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-thunderstorm/) 2. **Footprint placement (30 seconds):** Orient door away from prevailing wind 3. **Pole assembly (1 minute):** Color-code your poles with nail polish to avoid confusion in the dark 4. **Clip attachment (2 minutes):** Work systematically from one end to avoid tangles 5. **Staking (1 minute):** All nine points in storm conditions, just corners in calm weather                                                           **Heading out soon?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup. **[                                                               Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** ### Cloud Up 3P Crossbar Trick After struggling with the crossbar during my first setup, I discovered this sequence: attach crossbar BEFORE fully erecting the tent. Once the tent is up, the fabric becomes too taut for easy crossbar insertion. This simple change saves frustration and prevents fabric stress. ### Fly-First Setup for Wet Conditions The Cloud Up 2P excels at fly-first pitching – invaluable when [setting up camp in the rain](https://momgoescamping.com/pitch-tent-in-rain-inside-doesnt-get-wet/). I’ve used this feature dozens of times, keeping the inner tent completely dry during setup. The 3P model technically allows fly-first setup, but without crossbar support, it’s not practical for regular use. ## Weather Performance: Real Storm Stories Laboratory tests tell you nothing about how a tent performs when you’re lying awake at 3 AM wondering if your shelter will survive the night. Here are my most memorable weather encounters: ### The Bulgarian Hail Storm Incident Picture this: marble-sized hail pounding the fly for 30 minutes straight while camped at 8,000 feet with nowhere to retreat. The noise was deafening, and I was certain I’d emerge to find shredded fabric. Instead, the tent showed no damage beyond some stretching that resolved after drying. The 20D fabric proved tougher than its weight suggests. ### Scottish Highland Wind Test During a three-day stretch in the Cairngorms, sustained 40 mph winds with 60+ mph gusts tested every stake and guy line. The Cloud Up 2P held firm, though the fly drummed constantly. Pro tip: use MSR Groundhog stakes in sandy or loose soil – the included stakes bent under extreme tension. ### Norwegian Midnight Sun Condensation 24-hour daylight creates unique condensation challenges with extreme temperature swings. The Cloud Up 3P’s superior ventilation handled these conditions well, while my older Cloud Up 2P required morning wipe-downs. Opening both vestibule vents created enough airflow to minimize moisture buildup. ### Sub-Freezing Performance I’ve used both models down to 15°F (-9°C) without snow loading. The low-hanging fly blocks wind effectively, and condensation that freezes on the fly doesn’t drip into the tent. However, the Cloud Up 2P’s wall droop becomes problematic in winter – any contact between sleeping bag and tent wall results in moisture transfer. ## Long-Term Durability: The Five-Year Report Most reviews cover first impressions. After five years and 150+ nights, here’s what actually happens to these tents over time: ### What’s Still Perfect - **Zippers:** Smooth as day one, despite sand, dirt, and occasional forcing when fabric is wet-stretched - **Waterproofing:** Zero leaks, no resealing needed, even at seam intersections - **Pole integrity:** No cracks, splits, or permanent bends despite some questionable pitches - **Clip system:** All clips functional, though two show slight stress marks ### What’s Degraded - **Wall tension (Cloud Up 2P):** Noticeable sagging after year three, now requires internal support - **Stuff sack:** Compression straps failed after year two, replaced with Sea to Summit equivalent - **Original stakes:** Half are bent, upgraded to MSR Groundhogs for reliability - **Guyline tensioners:** Two have cracked, easily replaced with cord locks from gear shop ### Maintenance Requirements Unlike my premium tents that demand careful treatment, the Cloud Up’s have proven refreshingly low-maintenance. I clean them twice yearly with tent-specific soap, ensure complete drying before storage, and occasionally tighten the guyline knots. That’s it. No seam sealing, no DWR refresh, no special storage requirements. ## Storage and Organization: Where the Design Shows Its Budget Roots If there’s one area where the Cloud Up’s budget nature becomes apparent, it’s interior organization: ### Cloud Up 2P Storage Frustrations One overhead mesh pocket. That’s it. After five years, I’ve developed workarounds: - Mesh bag clipped to ceiling loop for phone and headlamp - Stuff sack wedged in corner for glasses and midnight snacks - Carabiner chain from ceiling for hanging wet socks The vestibule partially compensates with decent capacity – my 55L pack, boots, and cook kit fit with room for organization. Still, reaching that overhead pocket at night requires contortionist skills I don’t possess. ### Cloud Up 3P Storage Improvement Four mesh pockets near the door represent a massive upgrade, though placement could be better. Everything clusters at the entrance rather than distributed around the interior where you actually need items at night. I’ve added adhesive hooks (carefully, to avoid damaging fabric) for better headlamp positioning. ## Critical Limitations: Honest Deal-Breakers Every tent has compromises. Here are the Cloud Up’s limitations that might send you shopping elsewhere: ### The Tall Person Problem At 5’4″, I have plenty of room. My 6’2″ friend borrowed the Cloud Up 2P once. Once. His head and feet simultaneously touched the walls, creating a condensation sandwich. The diagonal sleeping solution works but defeats the “2-person” designation. The Cloud Up 3P adds minimal length – if you’re over 6 feet, consider Naturehike’s [P-Series tents designed for taller campers](https://momgoescamping.com/naturehike-p-series-4p-tent-review/). ### Single Door Syndrome One door works fine solo or with a understanding partner. But after several trips where my tentmate needed multiple nighttime bathroom breaks, climbing over me each time, we now use the Cloud Up 3P exclusively for partner camping. The single entry becomes especially problematic in rain when both people need quick exit access. ### Head-First Sleeping Orientation The tapered design assumes you’ll sleep with your head toward the door. I prefer feet-first for easier boot access, which means sleeping “backward” and dealing with reduced head clearance. It works, but it’s a daily annoyance that proper tent design would eliminate. ### Wall Contact in the 2P Even my compact 5’4″ frame occasionally brushes the Cloud Up 2P’s walls when shifting at night. Add a puffy sleeping bag and winter camping becomes problematic. The newer V-pole design helps but doesn’t eliminate the issue. The 3P’s crossbar completely solves this problem. ## Value Analysis: Breaking Down the True Cost of Ownership Let’s talk real numbers over five years of ownership: ### Total Investment - Cloud Up 2P initial purchase (2019): $89 - Replacement stakes (MSR Groundhogs): $24 - New stuff sack: $12 - **Total: $125 for 150+ nights = $0.83 per night** Compare this to my friend’s Big Agnes Fly Creek UL2: - Tent: $350 - Footprint: $60 - Similar stake upgrade: $24 - **Total: $434 for maybe 30 nights per year = $2.89 per night** ### Hidden Value Factors What doesn’t show in the numbers: - **No anxiety about damage:** I let my kids help with setup without wincing - **Lending confidence:** Happy to loan it to friends learning to backpack - **Experimentation freedom:** Tested fly-only setups and winter camping without fear - **Backup reliability:** Affordable enough to own multiple shelters for different conditions ## Head-to-Head: Cloud Up vs. Big Agnes Fly Creek UL2 [![Big Agnes Fly Creek](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/fly-creek-HV-ul2.jpg "Big Agnes Fly Creek - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/fly-creek-HV-ul2.jpg)[![Cloud Up vs Agnes Creel](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/cloud-up-vs-flycreek.png "Cloud Up vs Agnes Creel - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/cloud-up-vs-flycreek.png) Since the Cloud Up is essentially a Fly Creek clone, I borrowed my friend’s UL2 for a direct comparison over three trips. ### Weight Reality Check Marketing weight versus trail weight tells different stories: **Big Agnes Fly Creek HV UL2:** Advertised: 1 lb 15 oz (tent only) Plus footprint (sold separately): 5 oz Plus stakes and guylines: 4 oz **Real trail weight: 2.9 lbs** **Naturehike Cloud Up 2P (10D version):** Advertised: 3.3 lbs (complete package) Includes footprint, stakes, everything **Real trail weight: 3.3 lbs** That 6.4-ounce difference equals one energy bar and a titanium spork. For $250+ savings, I’ll carry the extra snack. ### Performance Differences That Matter After three trips with both tents: - **Materials:** Fly Creek’s fabric feels more premium but performed identically in rain - **Setup speed:** Identical once you know either system - **Weather resistance:** Both stayed dry in similar conditions - **Interior space:** Fly Creek has 2 inches more headroom, barely noticeable - **Storage:** Fly Creek’s three pockets beat Cloud Up’s single pocket The Fly Creek is objectively better, but not 3x better as the price suggests. For most backpackers, the Cloud Up delivers 90% of the performance at 30% of the cost. *Shop comparison: [Big Agnes on Amazon](https://amzn.to/4d6OO0l)* ## Alternative Options Worth Considering Based on my experience with the Cloud Up’s limitations, here are alternatives I’ve researched or tested: ### For Taller Backpackers **Naturehike Mongar 2P:** Adds 4 inches of length and 8 inches of width but weighs 5.5 lbs. I tested this on one trip – the extra space is luxurious but the weight penalty is noticeable on long days. ### For Ultralight Fanatics **Lanshan 2 Pro:** Trekking pole tent weighing 2.2 lbs. I borrowed one for a week – the weight savings are real but setup complexity and storm worthiness don’t match the Cloud Up’s reliability. ### For Two-Door Convenience **Naturehike Star River 2P:** Similar weight with dual doors. Haven’t personally tested it but online reviews suggest good performance with a slight weight penalty. Still comparing options? Check my comprehensive guide to [budget ultralight backpacking tents](https://momgoescamping.com/cheap-ultralight-tents/) for more alternatives. ## My Verdict After Five Years: Who Should Buy the Naturehike Cloud Up After 150+ nights in conditions ranging from perfect to “why did I leave the house,” here’s my honest assessment: ### The Cloud Up 2P is PERFECT for: - Solo backpackers who want gear storage space inside - Parent-child teams where the parent is under 5’10” - Budget-conscious beginners testing the ultralight waters - Experienced backpackers needing reliable backup shelter - Anyone prioritizing weight and cost over premium features ### The Cloud Up 3P is IDEAL for: - Two-person teams who value comfort over absolute minimum weight - Solo winter campers needing extra space for gear - Anyone who found the 2P too cramped but loves the design - Car campers who occasionally backpack (versatility without multiple tents) ### Skip Both Cloud Ups If: - You’re over 6’2″ (seriously, you’ll be miserable) - You demand premium materials and construction - Multiple doors are non-negotiable for partner camping - You primarily camp in winter conditions with snow loading - Interior pockets and organization are priorities ## Final Thoughts: The Tent That Changed My Backpacking The Naturehike Cloud Up 2 was my gateway into ultralight backpacking. Before discovering it, I assumed lightweight meant expensive, relegating Isabel and me to carrying heavy traditional tents that limited our adventure range. This $89 tent changed everything – suddenly, we could tackle longer trails, higher peaks, and more ambitious adventures. Five years later, despite owning “better” tents, the Cloud Up remains my go-to shelter for most trips. It’s light enough for long days, tough enough for real weather, and affordable enough that I don’t baby it. When Isabel asks to bring a friend backpacking, I hand them the Cloud Up without hesitation. When I’m planning a solo trip where I might encounter dicey weather, the Cloud Up goes in my pack. Is it perfect? No. The drooping walls in the 2P model annoy me every single night. The single door creates awkward midnight ballet performances. The lack of interior pockets means my glasses live in constant danger of being crushed. But at $0.83 per night over five years, with zero failures in conditions that had me questioning my life choices, the Cloud Up has earned my trust and recommendation. For most backpackers, the sweet spot is the [Cloud Up 3P](https://amzn.to/4dFPwlm). The crossbar design eliminates the 2P’s main weakness while adding minimal weight. It’s the tent I recommend to friends, the one I grab for partner trips, and the shelter that’s proven that budget gear doesn’t mean compromising safety or comfort. The outdoor industry wants you to believe you need expensive gear for real adventures. My 150+ nights in an $89 tent prove otherwise. The Naturehike Cloud Up delivers where it matters: keeping you dry, safe, and comfortable enough to wake up ready for another day on the trail. Everything else is just marketing. **Ready to start your ultralight journey?** [Shop Cloud Up on Amazon](https://amzn.to/4c0hVze) --- ## Related Resources Continue your gear research with these tested guides: - [Best Budget Ultralight Tents Under $200](https://momgoescamping.com/cheap-ultralight-tents/) – Compare all affordable options - [Complete Ultralight Backpacking Gear List](https://momgoescamping.com/ultralight-backpacking-gear-list/) – Build your entire kit - [How to Pitch a Tent in Rain](https://momgoescamping.com/pitch-tent-in-rain-inside-doesnt-get-wet/) – Master wet weather setup - [Camping in Thunderstorms Safely](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-thunderstorm/) – Essential storm preparation - [Naturehike Vik 1P Review](https://momgoescamping.com/vik-1-person-tent-review/) – For true solo minimalists - [Naturehike P-Series 4P Review](https://momgoescamping.com/naturehike-p-series-4p-tent-review/) – Family camping option ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** tents, ultralight --- ### [The Only Baby Camping Chairs Worth Buying (2026)](https://momgoescamping.com/the-only-baby-camping-chairs-worth-buying/) **Published:** August 17, 2018 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I’m a minimalist when it comes to camping: I don’t believe you need a lot of expensive gear to enjoy the outdoors.  However, after having my second kid, I’m starting to appreciate the merit of some extra gear – and that includes baby camping chairs (aka *portable high chairs* or *portable booster seats*). ## **Baby Camping Chair Safety: What to Check Before You Buy** A camping chair keeps your baby contained, but uneven ground and distractions at camp make safety more important outdoors than at home. Here’s what actually matters when you’re choosing: - **A real harness.** A 5-point harness (or at minimum a secure waist strap and leg divider) keeps a squirmy baby from climbing or sliding out while your hands are busy with camp chores. This is the single feature I won’t compromise on it’s why the Baby Delight is my top pick. - **A wide, stable base.** Four legs, not two. Outdoor ground is rarely flat, and a narrow or two-legged chair tips far too easily on dirt, grass, or sand. Every chair I recommend passed the “won’t topple” test. - **Never leave your baby unattended.** No camping chair, no matter how stable, is a substitute for supervision — especially near a campfire, water, or a slope. Keep the chair a safe distance from the fire ring and within arm’s reach. - **Skip anything that hooks onto a table or wraps around an adult chair.** Camp and RV tables aren’t built to anchor these safely (more on that in the “do NOT use” section below). The right chair gives you free hands without trading away your baby’s safety… that’s the whole point. Note that most portable baby chairs won’t work well for camping.  They are hard to clean, aren’t stable on uneven ground, or simply annoying to use. From my own experience and what other outdoorsy parents have said, here are the best baby camping chairs. ## **Quick Picks:** - **Best overall: [Baby Delight Go With Me Camping Chair](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MDUSHZY?ie=UTF8&th=1&linkCode=sl2&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=86c70b67f4bfe39467ac4106987c1cdd&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl)** - **Best low chair/booster: [OmniBoost folding chair with tray](https://amzn.to/4eH5yMR)** - **Best camping high chair: [Summer Infant Pop and Sit High Chair](https://amzn.to/4uLAdO0)** ## Best Baby Chairs for Camping ### 1. [Baby Delight Go With Me Camping Chair](https://amzn.to/3OTZPsM) **Choose If:** You want a chair that your baby can use as they grow up too ![baby delight camping chair](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/baby-delight-camping-chair.jpg "baby delight camping chair - Mom Goes Camping") ![baby delight go with me camping chair](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/baby-delight-go-with-me-chair.jpg "baby delight go with me chair - Mom Goes Camping") This is a great camping chair for babies because it is an all-around great height: It is tall enough that you can use it as a high chair to feed your baby without having to lean down. When your baby sits in it as a chair, she won’t be able to grab dirt/rocks/etc. from the ground. The baby camping chair also has lots of useful features.  It has a canopy to block sun, which you can also remove. The plastic tray is removable.  Unfortunately, the tray does slant forward, which means plates of food might slide towards your child. The 5-point harness is a big plus, especially for squirmy babies.  Even without it, the camping chair is very stable and you don’t have to worry about your baby toppling over. There’s a storage area under the chair too. The chair is suitable for babies once they can sit on their own and for children up to 75lbs. This means you can get a lot of use out of the camping chair. The dimensions of the chair are 24.5″ tall x 23″ wide x 22.75″ deep Weight: 4.9 lbs. It folds down to: 8″ x 8″ x 24.5″. #### **Pros:** - **Good height** - **Suitable for older children too** - **Removable sun canopy and tray** - **Built-in cup holder** - **5-point harness** - **Fabric wipes down** - **Storage pocket** - **Easy to fold/unfold** #### **Cons:** - **Tray slants forward** \*\*\*[**Get It Here**](https://amzn.to/3OTZPsM)\*\*\* --- ### 2. [OmniBoost Folding Travel with Tray](https://amzn.to/48Pui1S) **Choose If:** You want a lightweight, sturdy and affordable baby chair and don’t mind sitting on the ground [![omniboost chair camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/omniboost-chair.jpg "omniboost chair - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/omniboost-chair.jpg) The OmniBoost folding chair is designed a lot like normal camp chairs, just smaller and with a tray.  The material is easy to clean by wiping it down. You can also remove the material completely; it’s machine-washable.  I love that the chair is very lightweight at just 2lb 10oz so it’s easy carry around with you. The base is approximately 12.5 inches square (which unfortunately is too large to sit on a picnic table) and it’s almost 12 inches tall.  It is suitable for 6 months up to 3 years. The weight limit is 250lbs! #### **Pros:** - **Removable Plastic Tray** - **Removable material is machine-washable** - **Tray doesn’t slant** - **Lightweight** - **Won’t topple over** - **Storage pocket** #### **The Bad:** - **No 5-point harness** - **Base too big for picnic tables** **\*\*\*[Get It Here](https://amzn.to/48Pui1S)\*\*\*** --- ### 3. [Summer Infant Pop and Sit Booster Seat](https://amzn.to/49v5axx) **Choose If:** You like the low booster above but want a leg divider instead of straps to keep your baby in place ![summer infant pop and sit camping chair for babies](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/summer-infant-pop-and-sit-camping-chair-for-babies.jpg "summer infant pop and sit camping chair for babies - Mom Goes Camping") The Summer Infant folding chair is very similar to the OmniBoost chair above.  It also is lightweight, has a removable tray, folds down small, and is very stable so you don’t have to worry about your baby or toddler toppling over.  The fabric is also removeable can can be washed in the machine. However, there is one major difference with this chair: the straps are sewn into the bottom of the seat and not the back. This makes the straps sit low on the baby and not hold her in place well.  There is a leg divider built into the tray though, this helps prevent your baby from sliding forward and might be a bit more comfortable than straps between the legs. #### **Pros:** - **Removable fabric and tray** - **Tray doesn’t slant** - **Lightweight** - **Easy to clean material** - **Won’t topple over** - **Storage pocket** #### **Cons:** - **No 5-point harness** - **Waist straps sewn in a weird way** **\*\*\*[Get It Here](https://amzn.to/49v5axx)\*\*\*** --- ### 4. [Summer Infant Pop and Sit High Chair](https://amzn.to/4wupSHY) **Choose If:** You want a high chair instead of a booster ![summer infant pop and sit high chair](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/summer-infant-pop-and-sit-high-chair.jpg "summer infant pop and sit high chair - Mom Goes Camping") If you want a highchair for your baby while camping so you can feed her while at a table, this is the best bet.  It has wide legs so you don’t have to worry about your baby toppling over.  The non-slip legs are made for using on dirt and other outdoor surfaces. The seat and straps are identical to the booster version of this seat (sewn into the bottom and won’t secure a child in very well).  The high chair does have a wet/dry storage pocket which you can detach. It’s actually a really nice feature; you can put gross napkins in the pocket and then just detach it when you walk to the camp trashcans.  I wish the sippy cup holder was deeper, but it’s not a big deal (I actually tie my kid’s cup to the chair so it can’t fall on the ground). The dimensions are: 24×24 inches at the legs and 33 inches tall. Ground to seat is 21 inches. The tray is 16 inches across. #### **Pros:** - **Very stable** - **Easy to clean** - **Folds down compact** - **Easy to setup/fold down** - **Lightweight** - **Suitable for 6 months to 45lbs** - **Removable storage bag** #### **Cons:** - **Tray a bit difficult to detach** - **Waist straps sewn in a weird way** **\*\*\*[Get It Here](https://amzn.to/4wupSHY)\*\*\*** --- ### 5.[ Fisher Price Healthy Care Deluxe Booster Seat](https://amzn.to/48WFjym) **Choose If:** You want lots of features, even if it means a bulkier chair ![fisher price healthy deluxe booster seat](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/download-copy.jpg "download copy - Mom Goes Camping")![](//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&l=am2&o=1&a=B014D4H754) This is a really affordable booster seat which works really well for camping or picnics. You can just set the seat on the ground and put your baby inside. There are some nice features to the booster.  The legs are adjustable to two heights. Everything is plastic and easy to wipe down.  The lid stays on so you don’t have to worry about your baby knocking the entire thing off.  On the Deluxe version, the tray actually has three parts, one of which has a sippy cup holder.  There aren’t any weird crevices, so the entire thing can easily be wiped down. The booster has 3 safety straps: You can remove the back panel and use it for older children. The legs adjust to two positions, or can even be removed.  With the legs at the lowest position, the booster is two inches high.  It’s rated up to 50lbs. #### **Pros:** - **Very easy to clean** - **Affordable** - **Three built-in trays** - **Fits children up to 50lbs** #### **Cons:** - **Can only use on the ground while camping** - **Bulky even when folded** \*\*\*[**Get It Here**](https://amzn.to/48WFjym)\*\*\* --- ### 6. [Ciao Baby High Chair](https://amzn.to/48UYFE4) **Choose If:** You want a high chair that your baby can’t slide out of, even if it means the chair and tray sags **[![Ciao baby portable high chair for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/ciao-baby-1.jpg "Ciao baby portable high chair for camping - Mom Goes Camping")](https://amzn.to/2PhgiU8)** Ciao Baby is one of the most popular travel high chairs for babies.  It’s cheap and looks a lot like a normal camping chair. It has a lot of flaws.  The only reason I’d still recommend it is because of the height: your baby will be almost level with you while sitting around a campfire. The main issue is that the chair sags a lot.  This means that the tray (which isn’t removable) also sags. Older children might not mind, but it won’t be great for older babies/young toddlers.  There are built-in leg holes in the chair.  While this does mean babies can’t slide out, it is annoying to get your baby into the chair.  It will be even more difficult to get older children into the chair.  Kids also won’t be able to get in/out by themselves. So, despite it being rated up to 3 years old, it’s really only suitable for babies. **Pros:** - **5-point harness** - **Stable; won’t topple over** - **Easy setup** - **Cup holder** **Cons:** - **Chair sags and tray slants forward** - **Tray can’t be removed** - **Leg holes are too small** - **Older children can’t get in/out by themselves** **\*\*\*[Get It Here](https://amzn.to/48UYFE4)\*\*\*** --- ## Is It Worth Bringing a Baby Camping Chair? I’m a minimalist camper and generally try not to bring too much stuff.  **But having a chair for your baby makes camping a lot easier.** ### **Easier and *Cleaner* Feedings** A baby chair means you won’t have to hold your baby up while attempting to feed her. It means you can eat in peace.  Your baby is also a lot less likely to get food mush all over her.  A messy baby isn’t a big deal at home, but can be a pain when camping since you don’t have a bathtub handy. ### **Baby Can Sit and Play** If you get a baby chair with straps (recommended), you can put your baby in it while you do camp chores. ### **Enjoy the Campfire**  You can put your baby in the chair around the campfire (at a safe distance, of course). That leaves your hands free to poke the fire.  And who doesn’t like to poke the fire? ![baby sitting on a box while camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/3692990082_6e7ec70b0e_b.jpg "baby booster seat for camping - Mom Goes Camping")*Once your child is older you could just use her car seat as a booster or have her sit on something like a cooler  Until then hold your baby or get a baby camping chair* ## Types of Baby Camping Chairs ### Plastic Booster Seats Boost seats are meant to be strapped onto a chair.  They cannot be strapped safely onto camping chairs or picnic tables. However, you can put them on the ground. **Pros:** - Better back support - Easy to clean - Can use at home or while camping - Removable trays and adjustable height **Cons:** - Don’t fold; are bulky - Have to be used on the ground --- ### Folding Baby Chairs/Boosters These chairs look like normal camping chairs, just baby-sized.  Depending on the model, you might be able to attach a food tray or the tray will be built-in. **Pros** - Lightweight - Fold down very compact - Some suitable for older children - Legs designed for use on ground - Fabric easy to clean **Cons** - Fabric often sags - Trays often slant due to sagging - Probably need to use it on the ground --- ### Portable High Chairs Some portable high chairs can work for camping. It’s important that it has four legs or it won’t be stable enough on uneven ground. **Pros:** - Can use at home too - Lots of options and features available **Cons:** - Big and bulky, even when taken apart - Annoying to put together at camp - Lots of parts make it difficult to clean --- ### DO NOT Use These Baby Camping Chairs for Camping #### **Wrap Baby Chairs:** **![YISSVIC Portable Baby Feeding Chair Belt](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/wrap-chair.jpg "wrap chair - Mom Goes Camping")** These chairs are terrible for camping because: - You’ll need an adult chair to wrap baby onto. Doesn’t that defeat the point of bringing a baby chair? - Baby will still be too low to eat at the table with you. - They are made from FABRIC. This isn’t an issue when you are at home (and have access to your wonderful washing machine).  But do you really want to worry about cleaning gunk off of it while camping? --- **Hook-on high chairs:** **![Chicco Caddy Hook-On Chair](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/hook-on-chair.jpg "hook on chair - Mom Goes Camping")** I used one of these at home for our daughter. But, for camping, these chairs have some serious problems: - You can’t safely hook them onto most camping or RV tables. - They only make sense if you are 100% sure that you’ll have access to a picnic table. - It can’t be moved anywhere else, like in front of the fire. --- **Portable high chairs or boosters without food tray**: **![Munchkin BRICA GoBoost Travel Booster](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/no-food-tray.jpg "no food tray - Mom Goes Camping")** - These can’t be safely used on camp chairs, plastic chairs or picnic tables. - You won’t have anywhere to put food or toys for your baby. --- **Folding High Chairs with Only Two Legs** **![Cosco simple fold high chair](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/folding-high-chair-two-legs.jpg "folding high chair two legs - Mom Goes Camping")** - Not stable on dirt or sand! You need a baby chair with 4 legs for stability. - They usually aren’t made to be portable and are bulky and heavy. --- Image credits: From [this YouTube video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be5DjYV99cs) by Ciao Baby “[IMG\_5199](https://www.flickr.com/photos/abbybatchelder/3692990082/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [abbybatchelder](https://www.flickr.com/people/abbybatchelder/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [Best Toddler Camping Chairs 2026: 7 Picks Worth Buying](https://momgoescamping.com/best-toddler-camping-chairs/) **Published:** March 10, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Unless you want your toddler constantly sitting in your chair, it’s best to get them their own little chair. Most toddler camping chairs are pretty cheap and there are plenty of cute designs that your child will love.  When choosing the best toddler camping chairs though, I mostly focused on *stability*. These are chairs which have low seat heights and wide legs so your toddler won’t topple over. Read more about camping with a baby: - [Is It Rude to Camp with a Baby?](https://momgoescamping.com/is-it-rude-to-camp-with-a-baby/) - [How to Give a Baby a Bath While Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/give-baby-bath-camping/) Scroll down if you need advice for choosing a toddler camping chair. Otherwise, below are the best camping chairs for toddlers reviewed, as chosen by myself and other camping parents. ## Best Toddler Camping Chairs ### 1. [Hiccapop Omniboost Folding Chair Tray](https://www.amazon.com/hiccapop-Omniboost-Portable-Grandmas-Tip-Free/dp/B078JXHY29?linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=dfc4f6450635b41f5245f778bb0c1e98&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl&th=1) **Verdict: All-around best camping chair for little toddlers** ![omini boost toddler camping chair](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/omini-boost-toddler-camping-chair.jpg "omini boost toddler camping chair - Mom Goes Camping") The OmniBoost is a fantastic portable chair for older babies and toddlers. It’s low to the ground so your toddler can sit comfortably with her feet on the ground. The fabric doesn’t even sag too much when sitting. I also love that there is a removable tray, so you can plop a toddler in there for snacks or meals.  You can also remove the entire seat fabric and wash it for easy cleanup. Unfortunately, the base is a bit too wide to fit on most picnic table seats, so your child will have to eat on the ground.  I also wish it had a 5-point restraint instead of just 3-point.  Still, it’s a super-sturdy, lightweight chair which is practical for camping. #### Specs - - **Weight capacity:** 45lbs - **Chair weight:** 2lbs 10oz - **Seat height:** 6″ - **[Buy here](https://www.amazon.com/hiccapop-Omniboost-Portable-Grandmas-Tip-Free/dp/B078JXHY29?&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=dfc4f6450635b41f5245f778bb0c1e98&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl)** --- ### 2. [Baby Delight Go With Me Camping Chair](https://amzn.to/42EV75g) **Verdict: Sturdy chair with lots of nice features and suitable for older kids too, but your toddler’s feet won’t touch the ground** ![baby delight camping chair](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/baby-delight-camping-chair.jpg "baby delight camping chair - Mom Goes Camping") ![baby delight go with me camping chair](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/baby-delight-go-with-me-chair.jpg "baby delight go with me chair - Mom Goes Camping") This chair is also on my list of [best baby camping chairs](https://momgoescamping.com/the-only-baby-camping-chairs-worth-buying/). It is designed in a very practical way so you can get a lot of use out of it.  There is a canopy (so it’s a good beach chair too), storage pockets, a removable tray and a 5-point harness.  It’s also very stable and won’t tip over.  The weight limit is 75lbs, so your child can use it as she grows too. The tray annoyingly slants forward and easily comes off, so you can’t really put a plate of food on the tray.   However, it is good if you want to give your baby some coloring books or toys.  Also, the seat height is 12 inches. Your kid’s feet will *not* touch the ground for a while!  Only choose this one if you care more about the canopy and having a chair which will work with older kids too. #### Specs - **Weight capacity:** 75lbs - **Chair weight:** 7.5lbs - **Seat height:** 12” - **[Buy Here](https://amzn.to/4tzJ97S)** --- ### 3. [Melissa & Doug Camping Chairs](https://amzn.to/42Bzcfd) **Verdict:** **A super cute, cheap camping chair for bigger toddlers** **![melissa and doug kids camping chairs](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/melissa-and-doug-kids-camping-chairs.jpg "melissa and doug kids camping chairs - Mom Goes Camping")** These camping chairs by the brand Melissa & Doug come in several cute insect designs.  They are better suited for slightly older kids (age 3-5).  However, they are good if you have a larger toddler and want a camping chair that you’ll be able to get a few more years’ of use out of.  The seat height is 10” and sags down to about 8” when sitting. There’s a high weight capacity, which shows that the chair is well-built. #### Specs - **Weight capacity:** 125lbs - **Chair weight:** 2.7lbs - **Seat height:** 10” - **[Buy Here](https://amzn.to/42Bzcfd)** --- ### 4. [Pacific Play Tents Animal Camping Chairs](https://amzn.to/4ueDs0s) **Verdict: Simple chair with cute designs** [![pacific play kids chair for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/pacific-play-kids-chair-for-camping.jpg "pacific play kids chair for camping - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/pacific-play-kids-chair-for-camping.jpg) These toddler camping chairs are super cute.  Despite the fact that they are very cheap, the chairs actually hold up well.  The 100lb weight limit is a sign of good quality.  The chair is really tiny so, despite what the manufacturer says, kids older than 5 years old probably won’t fit in it.  Your toddler will still get a couple years’ of use out of it though. #### Specs - **Weight capacity:** 100lbs - **Chair weight:**  2.6lbs - **Seat height:** 10” - [**Buy Here**](https://amzn.to/4ueDs0s) --- ### 5. Redmon Kid’s Camp Chair with Umbrella **Verdict: Cheap camping and beach chair** [![KIDS ONLY Beach Baby Umbrella Chair with Matching Shoulder Bag, Cup Holders, steel,polyester, Aqua](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41YvoRRjW2L._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MY0J3O2?tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) If you want a camping chair which can be used at the beach too, this one is a good pick because it comes with a detachable umbrella.  The umbrella is a bit dumb in that you can only attach it at one spot and it’s hard to adjust.  However, the chair itself is sturdy and the right size for a toddler.  The manufacturer says ages 2-5 but realistically it will be too small by the time your child turns 4. #### Specs - **Weight capacity:** 125lbs - **Chair weight:** 3lbs (+1lb for umbrella) - **Seat height:** 11” - [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MY0J3O2/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B01MY0J3O2&linkId=05e0480596afd1f71e37d3f640d3d8ef) --- ### 6.[ Jakks Pacific Character Chairs](https://amzn.to/4dv6l1h) **Verdict: Good for older toddlers who love cartoon characters** ![Jakks pacific toddler camping chairs with cute designs](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/jakks-pacific-chair-Copy.jpg "jakks pacific chair - Copy - Mom Goes Camping") The brand Jakks Pacific makes several toddler camping chairs with cartoon characters on them (including PJ Max, Peppa Pig, Toy Story, Trolls, Spiderman, and more). For some reason, the PJ Masks chair is cheaper than the other characters.  The legs do a good job of locking in place and the seat height is low enough for a 2 year old.  The manufacturer says ages 3+ but most kids will probably be too big for it by age 4. #### Specs - **Weight capacity:** N/G - **Chair weight:** 3lbs - **Seat height:** 10” - [**Buy Here** ](https://amzn.to/4dv6l1h) --- ### 7. [Adjustable Height Folding Highchair](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07J5MGZ3J?&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=1dab5c5411f0157d6cb05589820743d3&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) **Verdict: Good if you want one travel chair which is good enough for mealtimes and sitting** ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/adjustable-high-chair.jpg "adjustable folding high chair - Mom Goes Camping") What’s cool about this chair is that it has adjustable-height legs.  When fully upright, the seat height is 22 inches.  A standard picnic table is 29 inches high, so this puts your toddler at a good position for eating.  In the lower position, the seat height is 12 inches.  This is too high for a toddler’s legs to touch the ground but there is a foot rest attached to the tray.   So, while this isn’t the perfect toddler camping chair, it’s a good solution if you travel a lot and only want to bring one chair for your toddler. #### Specs - **Weight capacity:** 30lbs - **Chair weight:** 11lbs - **Seat height:** 12” (seat), 22” (highchair) - [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07J5MGZ3J?&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=1dab5c5411f0157d6cb05589820743d3&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) --- ## Can I Use a Booster Seat on an Adult Camping Chair? Most booster seats are designed to be used with straight-backed hard chairs.  You can put a booster seat on them and maybe even strap it in place. However, your toddler will probably end up slanted and could easily fall out. In addition to that issue, toddlers won’t be able to get in/out of the chair by themselves so it isn’t a good solution for hanging around camp. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/booster-chair-on-normal-camping-chair.jpg "booster chair on normal camping chair - Mom Goes Camping")*Heres a booster chair on an adult camping chair Notice how the kid is falling off to the side* ## Choosing a Toddler Camping Chair When choosing these toddler camping chairs, I was looking at a few main things: Stability, seat height, cuteness, features, and whether it works for eating. ### Stability This is by far the most important feature of a camping chair for a toddler.  Toddlers are really squirmy and you don’t want the chair tipping over – especially in front of the campfire.  For this reason, you’ll want to choose a camping chair which has: - Four legs (instead of two) - Wide legs, preferably wider than the seat - Solid construction - Safety features like locking legs ### Seat Height The chair seat height should be low enough that your toddler’s feet touch the ground when sitting.  As a short woman, I can testify to how uncomfortable it is to have your legs dangling in a chair which is too big for you!  Further, if the seat height is too tall, your toddler won’t be able to get in/out of the chair by themselves. Unfortunately, most toddler camping chairs have a seat height of around 12 inches – which is too high for most toddlers.  A [seat height of 10 inches or under is better for toddlers](https://manine-montessori.com/pages/choosing-the-correct-table-and-chair-for-your-child).   To figure out exactly what seat height your toddler needs, measure the length of your child’s lower leg (from the bottom of the heel to under the bent knee). ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/toddler-getting-in-out-of-camping-chair-by-self.jpg "toddler getting in out of camping chair by self - Mom Goes Camping")*It will make your life easier if your toddler can get inout of the chair by himself*![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/toddler-seat-height-measurement.jpg "toddler seat height measurement - Mom Goes Camping")*The red line indicates where you should measure seat height so your toddlers legs dont dangle* ### Cuteness Cuteness matters when picking out gear for toddlers.  At least that’s the case with my kids. They’d rather have fun designs and bright colors than typical “boring” camping gear. ### Whether It Works for Eating Too Most camping-style toddler chairs aren’t great for eating; your child won’t be able to sit up properly in the chair and will end up making a (bigger) mess.  Some camping chairs allow for better posture though and come with snap-on trays which make eating easier.  There are also some portable high chairs for toddlers which can work for camping too.   So think about how your toddler will use the chair and buy one which makes sense for this purpose. ### Features Also consider how important these features are for you when choosing the toddler camping chair. - **Tray:** These make it possible for your child to eat semi-normally. If the chair has a tray though, it probably doesn’t have a cup holder. - **Cup holder:** Cup holders are awesome because you can fill them with snacks and your toddler will sit contently (at least for 5 minutes) snacking in the chair. - **Canopy or umbrella:** These usually sound nicer than they really are. Unless the chair is positioned perfectly, the canopy or umbrella might not provide any shade.  It’s still nice to  have that option though. ## Toddler Camping Chair FAQ: What age is a toddler camping chair for? Most work best for ages 2 to 4. Manufacturers often say ages 2 to 5, but in reality most toddlers outgrow the small seat by age 4. If you want more years of use, look for a higher weight capacity — 100lbs or more like the Melissa & Doug or Pacific Play chairs  which fit bigger kids without wobbling. What seat height does a toddler need? Lower than you’d think. Most toddler camping chairs sit around 12 inches high, which is too tall — their feet won’t touch the ground. A seat height of 10 inches or under is better. To find the exact height your child needs, measure from the bottom of the heel to under the bent knee when sitting. Are camping chairs safe for toddlers? Yes, when you choose for stability. Look for four wide legs (wider than the seat), solid construction, and locking legs so the chair won’t tip over especially important near a campfire. Avoid propping a booster seat on an adult camping chair; toddlers slide sideways and fall off. Can a toddler camping chair be used for eating? Sometimes. Most camping-style chairs don’t support good posture for meals. If eating at the chair matters, pick one with a snap-on tray or use a portable high chair with adjustable-height legs that raises your toddler to picnic-table level. The hiccapop OmniBoost is the best option for both sitting and eating. Read my full guide to the [best baby sleeping bags for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/best-baby-sleeping-bags-camping/) here. --- ###### Image credits: “[Relaxin](https://www.flickr.com/photos/seanabrady/146845898/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [seanabrady](https://www.flickr.com/people/seanabrady/), “[Camping chairs](https://www.flickr.com/photos/simonpocock/3853833706/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Simon & Vicki](https://www.flickr.com/people/simonpocock/), “Setting up camp in Seneca Rocks this wee” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [dionhinchcliffe](https://www.flickr.com/people/dionhinchcliffe/), ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** chair, toddler --- ### [How Far Can Kids Hike? A Simple Formula by Age](https://momgoescamping.com/how-far-can-kids-hike/) **Published:** August 20, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** You want to go hiking with your kids? That’s awesome. As a nature nerd with two daughters (now 14 and 6 years old), I absolutely love hiking with my kids. However, it’s also really important that you choose a hike which your kids can actually handle.  Which leads us to the question… How far can kids (really) hike? Read more below: [Best Kids Hiking Backpacks for Every Age](https://momgoescamping.com/best-kids-hiking-backpacks/) [How Much Weight Can Kids Carry Backpacking?](https://momgoescamping.com/how-much-weight-kids-carry-backpacking/) ## Quick Answer: Starting around age four, kids can generally hike a 1/2 mile per year of age.  So, a four year old could hike 2 miles, a five year old 2.5 miles, a six year old 3 miles, and so on. By the age of 10, most kids can physically outhike adults. Peer pressure also helps kids hike further. Tween Scouts regularly do 5 mile hikes and the teens with hiking experience do 10 mile hikes.  However, the weather, terrain, experience level, and whether they are carrying a backpack can all affect how far a kid can hike.  If you aren’t sure, it’s better to plan a shorter hike or have an exit plan in case they get grumpy. | | | | | |---|---|---|---| | Age | Formula Distance (½ mi × age) | Realistic Planned Distance | Pace | | 2-3 | Under 1 mile | Carry or stroller most of it | Hours per mile | | 4-5 | 2-2.5 miles | 1-2 miles | ~0.5-0.75 mph | | 6-9 | 3-4.5 miles | 3-5 miles with experience | ~0.75-1 mph | | 10+ | 5+ miles | 5+ miles (willingness, not ability) | 1-2 mph | ### A More Detailed Math Formula: - **Start with 1/2 mile per age.**  If your kids are very active and have experience, go with 1 mile per age. - **Is there steep elevation or difficult terrain?** Reduce the hike distance (or the hard part of the hike) by 50% - **Are they carrying a pack?** Reduce the hike distance by 10% - **Are *you* carrying a heavy pack?** Reduce the hike distance by 10%  (When you are tired, you’ll be less mentally fit to handle your child’s bad mood or 5,000 breaks to look at leaves, bugs, etc.) - **Is there something cool at the destination that your kids want to see?** Increase the distance by 10%. Note I said “your kids.” Just because *you* are excited about some rock formation or vista, it doesn’t mean your kids will be.  My kids are mostly motivated by frogs, newts, and candy. - **Are friends coming?** Increase the hike distance by 25% to 50%.  Peer pressure does amazing things! 🙂 **For example:** I want to go camping with my 6 year old and we have to hike into camp. I will be carrying a very heavy pack and she will be carrying a light pack (which I inevitably end up carrying too). There is some incline and tricky terrain.  However, my kid is excited that we get to roast marshmallows when we arrive. We are also hiking with my older daughter and her friend and my 6 year old will be motivated to keep up with them. - 6 years x 1/2 = 3 miles - Minus 1.5 miles for tough terrain - Minus 0.3 miles because she’s carrying a pack - Minus 0.3 miles because I’m carrying a pack - Plus 0.3 miles because marshmallows motivate - Plus 0.75 miles for peer pressure = My six year old can realistically hike 1.95 miles to 2.7 miles in these conditions. ## Remember that Kids Hike SLOWLY When you factor in breaks, play time and general slowness, little kids probably won’t cover more than 1/4 to 1/2 a mile per hour.  School aged kids might be able to go 1 mile per hour, but it will probably take a lot of “hurry up” to reach this pace.  I’d play it safe and calculate no more than 0.75 miles per hour.  Middle school aged kids, especially on group hikes like with the Scouts, generally cover 1-2 miles per hour. Make sure you consider this when planning the hike distance.  For example, if you calculate that your 5 year old can hike 2 miles, make sure you give yourselves at least 4 hours to finish the hike!  You’ll need lots of snacks. Candy is a great motivator 🙂 [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/isabel-carrying-hiking-backpack.jpg "isabel carrying hiking backpack - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/isabel-carrying-hiking-backpack.jpg)It once took 5 HOURS to hike 1 mile over steep tough terrain with my four year old I didnt plan on it taking so long and had to stop drinking water so she would have enough   Taking the kids camping for the first time? My “Your Family’s First Camping Trip” bundle has the complete guide, printable packing checklist, and three done-for-you itineraries everything from booking the site to the drive home. **[Get the bundle →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/1stcampingtrip)** ## Don’t Be Overly Ambitious The fact that you are even wondering if your kids will be able to handle the hike means the answer is probably “no.”  Sure*,* you *might* get lucky and your kids will prove to be hardy little hikers.  But the hike could end up taking 3x longer than you expected so you run out of snacks and water and are exhausted — both physically and mentally (yes, this has happened to us more than once!).  It’s better to choose a shorter, easy hike.  Once the kids prove they can do that, then start on some longer hikes. ### Personal Note: Please get off Instagram and social media! I regularly hike with my kids and generally feel awesome about our time together in nature. However, I noticed how terrible felt about my kids’ hiking abilities after being on Instagram.  There are simply too many parents posting videos of their kids doing insane hikes. Even though those videos are often faked or exaggerated, it’s hard for that not to get under your skin.  And the videos rarely show the breakdowns the kids (or parents) had along the way.  So do what works best for your family instead of trying to reach for lofty, unrealistic goals. **You might also want to read:** - [How long does it take to complete a hike?](https://momgoescamping.com/how-long-complete-hike/) - [How much water to bring on a hike](https://momgoescamping.com/how-much-water-to-bring-hiking/) - [Hiking packing list](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-packing-list/) ## How Far Kids Can Hike By Age ### 2-3 Year Olds It’s unlikely a 2 or 3 year old will hike over 1 mile without being carried at least part of the way.  Even if your toddler does hike the entire way, they will probably get distracted (every leaf, rock, stick on the trail is a potential plaything!). So, it can take HOURS to hike a single mile.  For that reason, you’ll probably want to use a carrier or stroller for your hike. Unfortunately, 2 and 3 year olds are heavy. It is hard work to carry them in a hiking carrier.  So, unless you are in very good shape, you’ll probably want to keep your hikes shorter than 4 four or five miles. **Tips:** - **It’s okay to use a harness or a leash for toddlers.** It’s a lot easier than holding their hand on a hike for hours.  It also allows you to relax and enjoy the view instead of constantly watching to make sure your toddler won’t run off, get lost, or wander off a ledge. - **Actually read the trail reviews.** Just because the trail is rated as “easy”, it doesn’t mean that all parts of it will be easy for little kids or stroller-accessible. - **Consider a stroller instead of a carrier.** Yes, there are some that can handle rough trails. - See my picks for [best hiking strollers](https://momgoescamping.com/all-terrain-strollers-hiking/) - [Also consider a Child hiking carrier](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=child+hiking+carrier+backpack&tag=momcampnew-20) [![diane vukovic](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/diane-and-lidija-hiking-carrier.jpg "diane and lidija hiking carrier - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/diane-and-lidija-hiking-carrier.jpg)My two year old was NOT a good hiker --- ### 4-5 Year Olds Most 4 and 5 year old kids can *physically* hike 2-4 miles, but it’s better to keep the hike to a max of 1 or 2 miles.  At this age, they are also generally enthusiastic about exploring nature and will come on the hike willingly.  However, 4 and 5 year old kids are easily distracted.  They will want to stop and gather cool rocks, poke sticks into puddles, catch salamanders…  Unless you want to constantly argue with them to hurry up, you’ll need to allow for many unplanned breaks along the way. **Tips:** - **Dress your kids wear brightly-colored clothes.** This will make it easier to see them if they hike ahead of you. - **Talk about what to do if they get lost.** This is crucial since kids at 4 and 5 years old have a tendency to wander off. [Read about how to have this talk here](https://momgoescamping.com/kids-getting-lost-hiking/). - **Give them whistles.** See above! - **Have them carry their own packs.** Little kids feel special carrying their own packs, but this is more a safety issue. They should at least have some water, snacks, a jacket, and rain gear in their pack.  Yes, it’s likely you might end up carrying this pack for them at some point. - **Stop to snack frequently.** Little kids burn fuel very quickly. If you don’t plan many snack breaks —  at least every hour – they will crash and burn. - **Candy!** If there was ever a time to let your kids have sweets, it’s while burning lots of energy on a hike.  M&Ms and other candies are wonderful motivators for hiking. - [Find the perfect Kids hiking backpacks here.](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=kids+hiking+backpack&tag=momcampnew-20) - [Don’t forget the snacks trail mix](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=trail+mix+kids+hiking+snacks&tag=momcampnew-20) --- ### 6-9 Years Old Children aged 6 to 9 can usually hike 3-5 miles, or even more if they have experience. The problem is that kids at this age can start to lose interest in hiking with their parents.  Peer pressure is a particularly great motivator at this age.  If you bring a friend along (even if it is one of *your* friends), your child will probably be more motivated to hike. **Tips:** - **Let your kid see the itinerary before setting off.** And let them track progress on the map as you hike. It will stave off whining if they can see for themselves how much further there is to go, not to mention hone orienteering skills. - **Plan fewer but longer breaks.** Little kids need lots of small breaks. At 6-9 years old, kids will appreciate being able to stop to play at various cool points on the trail. --- ### 10+ Years Kids 10 years and up are generally able to hike 5+ miles with ease. At this age, the problem isn’t so much *physical* ability but *willingness*.  Don’t be surprised if tweens and teens are reluctant to go on hikes with just mom and dad. My 10-year old daughter, for example, is tired of my “nature talks” about insects, plant identification, and erosion.  It’s a lot harder to convince her to go on a hike with just me, especially when there isn’t a “reward” at the end like a swimming lake.  However, she still gets excited about hiking if we can bring a friend of hers along. **Tips:** - **Consider letting your kid and a friend hike without you or ahead of you.** Of course, this is contingent on your kid actually being able to read a map, follow trail markers, knowing in general how to behave in nature, and being reliable enough to meet up with you at a certain point. - **Get the kids involved in trip planning.** They can’t whine if they were the ones who decided on that trail! ## **Kids Hiking Distance FAQ**: How far can a 5 year old hike? Using the half-mile-per-age formula, a 5 year old can physically manage 2.5 miles. In practice, plan for 1-2 miles to account for slow pace, frequent stops, and the inevitable “I’m tired” at the halfway point. If the trail is flat and there’s something exciting at the end a waterfall, a swimming hole push toward the upper end. How far can a 7 year old hike? A 7 year old can typically hike 3-4 miles in good conditions. At this age, they’re sturdy enough to handle moderate terrain but still easily distracted and mood-dependent. Bring a friend if you can peer pressure at this age does more for hiking distance than any other variable. What is a reasonable hiking distance for a family with young kids? For a family with kids ages 4-8, plan for 2-3 miles round trip with 400 feet of elevation gain or less. That gives everyone enough challenge to feel accomplished without destroying anyone. Have an exit plan a shorter loop or a turnaround point in case the youngest hits the wall earlier than expected. At what age can kids hike without being carried? Most kids can walk short distances from around 18 months, but realistically hiking without any carrying usually happens around age 4-5. Before that, plan to carry them for at least part of any hike over half a mile. A good child carrier makes the difference between an enjoyable hike and a miserable one when the toddler legs give out. Does elevation gain affect how far kids can hike? Significantly. Steep terrain is roughly twice as tiring as flat ground. If your planned trail has serious elevation gain, cut the total distance in half when calculating what your kids can handle. A 2-mile hike with 800 feet of climbing will exhaust a 6 year old as thoroughly as a 4-mile flat trail. **How far do your kids hike? Let us know in the comments.** --- Image credit: “[Hiking to blue mountains](https://www.flickr.com/photos/tgerus/8341461951/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Tatters ✾](https://www.flickr.com/people/tgerus/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking **Tags:** hiking, kids --- ### [Best Rain Suits for Crawling Babies (Tried and Tested Picks)](https://momgoescamping.com/baby-rain-suits/) **Published:** January 28, 2025 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Unless you want to go crazy all cooped up inside during bad weather, a baby rain suit is one of the best things you can buy.  I got my baby a rain suit and waterproof booties when she started crawling.  It allowed me to put her on wet, muddy ground on trips to the park (thus getting her nice and tired out for nap time!).  The rain suit also came in handy on travels and hikes. Unfortunately, there aren’t too many good options for baby rain suits. If your baby is a bit bigger, there are plenty of options for toddlers (see the [best toddler rain suits here](https://momgoescamping.com/best-rain-suits-toddlers/)).  Here I’ve included rain suits for babies 3 months to 1 year old. A couple of these baby rain suits I used with my daughter.  Others were recommended by parents I know.  Here they are! ## Quick Picks: - **Best Overall: [Therm Kids All-Weather Rain Suit](http://thermkids.com/CAMPINGWITHMOM) (Canadian Store [here)](http://thermkids.ca/CAMPINGWITHMOM)** - **Runner Up: [Hatley’s Sherpa Baby Rain Suit](https://amzn.to/3FHpYTv)** - **Budget Pick (and Camping Mom’s pick): [Tuffy Baby Rain Suit](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001AI00JW/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B001AI00JW&linkId=54130ed9531d594fe70c9554ef9ab9cd)** - **Cutest Designs: [Jan & Jul Baby Puddle Suits](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08C9B76RL/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08C9B76RL&linkId=67fa791ced21ec32330c002d33dc16e3)** - **Best Baby Rain Pants: [Polarn O. Pyret Infant Rain Pants](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=polarn+o+pyret+rain+suspenders&ref=nb_sb_noss_2&_encoding=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=07655ce1335b3c8dce89440181887431&camp=1789&creative=9325)** [![kids puffer jacket](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/baby-in-rain-suit-playing-with-worm.jpg "kids puffer jacket - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/baby-in-rain-suit-playing-with-worm.jpg)*Every baby should be able to play with mud and worms 🙂* ## Important Features of Baby Rain Suits Some baby rain suits look super cute but are very impractical in real life.  Like if it’s hard to get your baby out of it for a diaper change. Or if the pant legs keep riding up as your baby crawls around.  So, when choosing the best baby rain suits, I was mainly looking at these features: - **Full-length zipper:** This makes it so much easier to get your baby in/out of the rain suit. - **Diagonal zippers:** These make it possible to do diaper changes while your baby is still in the rain suit. Bonus points if the suit has multiple zippers! - **Boot cuffs:** These are elastic straps at the bottom of the rain suit or pants. They go over your baby’s feet. They are *really* important for keeping the pants from riding up.  Yet, few rain suits have these. - **Adjustable elastic waist:** This helps the rain suit fit better so it isn’t baggy. It’s a great feature, especially if you have a skinny baby. - **Warm lining:** Even in summer, a warm lining can make the rain suit more comfortable.  I prefer fleece linings as they dry fast, are warm, and are comfortable even against bare skin. - **Hood features:** Look for hoods which have straps or elastic to make them adjustable. A built-in brim is also great for keeping rain out of your baby’s eyes. - **Reinforced areas:** The knees (for crawling) and butt area (for sitting) should be reinforced with stronger materials. ####                                             **Taking the kids camping for the first time?** My “Your Family’s First Camping Trip” bundle has the complete guide, printable packing checklist, and three done-for-you itineraries everything from booking the site to the drive home. **[                                                                         Get the bundle →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/1stcampingtrip)** [![baby rain suit riding up](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/baby-rain-pants-riding-up.jpg "baby rain suit riding up - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/baby-rain-pants-riding-up.jpg) My daughter’s rain suit didn’t have leg cuffs on it.  Notice in the photo how the legs rode all the way up to her knees! I eventually sewed the elastic cuffs onto the rain suit and it solved the problem.  \*This photo was taken while exploring an underground city in Cappadocia, Turkey. Here we took a feeding break.  🙂 ## One or Two-Piece Rain Suits for Babies? In my experience, it’s better to get a one-piece rain suit for babies and a two-piece for toddlers.  One-piece suits do a much better job of keeping your baby dry – especially when crawling, since mud can get up the jacket.  It’s also easier to do diaper changes in a one-piece suit.   Once you child starts potty training though, you’ll probably find a two-piece rain pant + jacket better. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/happy-baby-in-rain-suit.jpg "happy baby in rain suit - Mom Goes Camping")My friends happy baby in her Hatley rain suit on a camping trip 🙂 ## Best Baby Rain Suits ### 1. Therm Kids All-Weather Rain Suit [![ThermKids Rain Suit Puddle Suit](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/ThermKidsBaby.webp "ThermKidsBaby - Mom Goes Camping")](https://thermkids.com/?dt_id=532512) I absolutely LOVE this brand of kid’s and baby rain suits!  The suits are designed specifically with active crawling babies in mind, so there are features like reinforced rubberized knees and booty.  All the materials are eco-friendly.  And the company is run by a cool mom, so you are supporting a small business if you buy it from them. 🙂 The suit doesn’t have elastic boot cuffs.  However, it does have fold-over cuffs.  This means your baby can wear the suit without shoes. **Features:** - **Sizes: 6-12 months (toddler sizes also available)** - **Full length diagonal zipper with soft zipper guard** - **Soft microfleece lining** - **Fold-over cuffs** - **Rubberized knees and butt** - **10,000mm waterproof rating** - **Made with 100% recycled materials** - **Reflective strips on front and back** - **[Buy Here](http://thermkids.com/CAMPINGWITHMOM) (or [here](http://thermkids.ca/CAMPINGWITHMOM) in Canada)** \*Use code CAMPINGWITHMOM at checout to get 10% off your entire order!\* --- ### 2. Hatleys Sherpa Baby Rain Suit [![hatley rain suit bundler for babies](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/hatley-rain-bundler-for-babies.jpg "hatley rain bundler for babies - Mom Goes Camping")](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Hatley+sherpa+baby+rain+suit&language=en_US&crid=ONL0TXZWFKCD&linkCode=sl2&linkId=f5e80638642616ed0f06a3ec055a5281&sprefix=hatley+sherpababy+rain+suit%2Caps%2C286&tag=momcampnew-20&ref=as_li_ss_tl) While this brand isn’t very wellknown in the USA, they make great quality rain gear for babies.  The design is incredibly smart with boot straps that will keep the suit in place.  It’s easy to get your baby in/out of the suit.  You can even do diaper changes while your baby’s arms are still in the suit. There isn’t any elastic around the waist, so the fit is a bit baggy. **Features:** - **Size: 9-12 months** - **Full length diagonal zipper** - **Boot straps keep pants from riding up** - **Elastic cuffs** - **Microfiber lining** - **Brimmed hood** - **[Buy Here](https://amzn.to/42p9omB)** --- ### 3. Columbia Infant Critter Jitters Rain Suit [![Columbia Infant Critter Jitters Rain Suit](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/columbia-critter-jitters-baby-rain-suit.jpg "columbia critter jitters baby rain suit - Mom Goes Camping")](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=columbia+critter+jitters+infant+rain+suit&language=en_US&crid=ONH3CPAAK26C&linkCode=sl2&linkId=e51a17776aa2823a4fc2710d51b10b48&sprefix=columbia+critter+jitters+infant+rain+%2Caps%2C291&tag=momcampnew-20&ref=as_li_ss_tl) I had this rain suit for my baby at 3-6 months and loved it.  As for practicality, the zipper goes down at a slight diagonal so diaper changes are easy. The material is very durable and handled an entire season of crawling without getting any rips or torn knees. I also really like how the hood is designed; the elastic and adjustable Velcro strap on the back give a great fit around your baby’s face. The only very annoying thing about this baby rain suit is that there are no boot cuffs.  There is a Velcro strap but the pants still ride up. I sewed boot straps onto mine and that solved everything.  Note that the Infant Critter Jitters suits do *not* have the Outgrown feature which allows you to adjust the size. **Features:** - **Sizes: 0/3, 3/6, 6/12** - **Diagonal zipper** - **Elastic cuffs and waist** - **Velcro leg cuffs** - **Partial fleece lining** - **Adjustable hood** - [**Buy Here** ](https://amzn.to/3PvJVoB) --- ### 4. Tuffy Baby Rain Suit (People’s Choice Award) [![Tuffo Muddy Buddy Baby Rain Suit](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/tuffo-muddy-buddy-baby-rain-suit.jpg "tuffo muddy buddy baby rain suit - Mom Goes Camping")](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001AI00JW/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B001AI00JW&linkId=54130ed9531d594fe70c9554ef9ab9cd) This is by far one of the most popular baby rain suits, mostly because it is cheaper than other options.  Despite the low price, it’s a decent quality and has some great design features.  I particularly love the double zippers as this makes it so easy to do diaper changes while outdoors.  The knees and butt are reinforced, which is good for crawling babies.   Just be warned that the fit is very baggy.  The hood also doesn’t fit well and there’s no way to adjust it. **Features:** - **Sizes: 1 year and up** - **Two diagonal zippers** - **Reinforced knees and butt** - **Elastic cuffs** - [**Buy Here** ](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001AI00JW/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B001AI00JW&linkId=54130ed9531d594fe70c9554ef9ab9cd) --- ### 5. Jan & Jul Waterproof Rain Suit [![Jan & Jul waterproof baby rain suit](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/jan-jul-baby-rain-suit.jpg "jan jul baby rain suit - Mom Goes Camping")](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08C9B76RL/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08C9B76RL&linkId=67fa791ced21ec32330c002d33dc16e3) This rain suit is better suited for older babies who are starting to walk.  It is incredibly waterproof with a 10,000mm waterproof rating but still has a good breathability at 3000g/m2.   There is no insulating liner, so it’s a good choice for summer.  It’s pretty loose so will fit over a lot of layers too.   There’s an adjustable elastic waist to get a better fit.  I really wish the zipper went down into the leg area so it was easier to do diaper changes and that there were boot cuffs, but overall it’s a good rain suit.  If you get the 1 year old size for a smaller baby, it will be baggy but you’ll get more use out of it. **Features:** - **Sizes: 1 year and up** - **10,000mm waterproof rating; 3000g/m2 breathability** - **Adjustable elastic waist** - **Elastic cuffs** - **Adjustable hood with brim** - [**Buy Here** ](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08C9B76RL/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08C9B76RL&linkId=67fa791ced21ec32330c002d33dc16e3) --- ### 6. Polarn O. Pyret Waterproof Baby Pants [![polarn o pyret baby rain pants](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/polarn-o-pyret-baby-rain-pants.jpg "polarn o pyret baby rain pants - Mom Goes Camping")](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=polarn+o+pyret+rain+suspenders&_encoding=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=ur2&linkId=07655ce1335b3c8dce89440181887431&tag=momcampnew-20&ref=nb_sb_noss_2) Polarn O. Pyret is a Swedish brand which makes great children’s clothing for bad weather. I had a pair of these rain pants.  My now-toddler has one of their shell jackets too (which I lucked out finding in a thrift store).  So, I can attest to the quality of these items.  Unfortunately, that quality does come at a cost. I generally don’t like suspender-type rain pants for babies because it makes it hard to do diaper changes in the rain. However, they are perfect for crawling around on dry-but-muddy days. The elastic waist strap means they fit well. And thankfully the brand is smart enough to have boot straps so the pants don’t ride up all the time! **Features:** - **Size: 6-12 months** - **Adjustable suspenders** - **Elastic waist for better fit** - **Boot strap** - **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=polarn+o+pyret+rain+suspenders&ref=nb_sb_noss_2&_encoding=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=07655ce1335b3c8dce89440181887431&camp=1789&creative=9325)** --- ### 7. Jan & Jul Waterproof Puddle Pants [![Jan & Jul Puddle Rain Pants for Babies](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/jan-jul-baby-rain-pants.jpg "jan jul baby rain pants - Mom Goes Camping")](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0866C3VDW/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B0866C3VDW&linkId=8267138d36971cb9af46844b208d8ec0) Also from Jan & Jul, these rain pants come in sizes 1 and up.  They are good for babies who are just starting to walk. I personally find the elastic waist more practical than suspenders for diaper changes.  I wouldn’t recommend these for crawling babies though because they don’t have a boot strap and will ride up quickly.  There’s also a [fleece-lined option here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QXTX6SL/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07QXTX6SL&linkId=4038b910a2011008129f8465b5861062). **Features:** - **Sizes: 1 year and up** - **Lots of cute styles** - **10,000mm waterproof rating; 3000g/m2 breathability** - **Elastic cuffs and waist** - [**Buy Here**](https://amzn.to/3ltrgXd) --- ### The **Best Baby Rain Suits: Frequently Asked Questions** Choosing the right rain suit for your baby ensures they stay dry and comfortable during wet weather adventures. Here are some frequently asked questions to guide you: **1. What should I look for in a baby rain suit?** - Opt for a rain suit that’s waterproof, windproof, and breathable. - Features like sealed seams, adjustable hoods, and elastic cuffs help keep moisture out. - Lightweight materials allow for easy movement, and a comfortable lining ensures your baby stays cozy. **2. Are one-piece or two-piece rain suits better for babies?** - One-piece suits offer complete coverage, preventing water from seeping in between layers—great for active babies. - Two-piece sets provide flexibility, allowing you to mix and match with other clothing for varying weather conditions. **3. How do I ensure the rain suit fits my baby properly?** - Choose a size that allows for layering underneath without being too bulky. - Ensure there’s room for growth, but avoid suits that are excessively large, as they can hinder movement and let water in. **4. What materials are best for baby rain suits?** - Polyurethane-coated fabrics or high-quality nylon are excellent for waterproofing. - Some eco-friendly brands offer rain suits made from recycled materials, ensuring sustainability without compromising quality. **5. How can I keep my baby warm under a rain suit?** - Layering is key: start with a moisture-wicking base layer, add an insulating fleece layer for warmth, and top it off with the rain suit for wind and rain protection. **6. Are there eco-friendly rain suit options available?** - Yes! Many brands now offer rain suits made from recycled or sustainable materials. - Some coats are made from 100% recycled polyester, providing both environmental benefits and quality protection. **7. How do I care for and clean a baby rain suit?** - Always follow the manufacturer’s care instructions. - Wipe off mud and dirt with a damp cloth. - For deeper cleaning, hand wash or use a gentle machine cycle with mild detergent and air dry to maintain waterproof properties. **8. Can my baby wear a rain suit in warmer weather?** - Yes, but ensure the rain suit is breathable to prevent overheating. - In warmer conditions, opt for lighter layers underneath and choose suits with ventilation features. 9. **How can I make putting on a rain suit easier for my baby?** - Look for suits with full-length zippers, elastic cuffs, and adjustable features for easier dressing. - Engaging your baby with a toy or song during dressing can make the process smoother. --- **Do you have a rain suit for your baby?** **Let us know what you love about it in the comments section below.** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** baby, rain --- ### [Best Baby Sleeping Bags for Camping, Reviewed by an Outdoorsy Mom](https://momgoescamping.com/best-baby-sleeping-bags-camping/) **Published:** May 16, 2018 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I took my daughter camping for the first time when she was four months old.  There weren’t any baby sleeping bags for camping then, so I made do by putting her in lots of layers and a sleep sack. It worked well on the first trip.  But, on the second trip, I was paranoid she’d be cold so overbundled her. She ended up overheated and the sleep sack got drenched in sweat. It was a fairly miserable night, with her crying and me unsure whether it was because she was too hot or too cold because everything was wet.                                                  **Taking the kids camping for the first time?** My “Your Family’s First Camping Trip” bundle has the complete guide, printable packing checklist, and three done-for-you itineraries — everything from booking the site to the drive home. **[                                                                         Get the bundle →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/1stcampingtrip)** ## **Are Sleeping Bags Safe for Babies When Camping?** This is the question every parent should ask first, and it matters more than which bag you buy. The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends that babies under 12 months sleep on their back on a firm, flat surface free of loose bedding, pillows, and soft objects. A wearable baby sleeping bag designed for camping actually fits this guidance *better* than the workaround most of us start with — piling on loose blankets and layers, which is exactly what AAP warns against. That’s the real case for a purpose-built bag: it keeps your baby warm without loose fabric that can ride up over the face. The two features that make a camping bag genuinely safe are a snug (not loose) fit around the chest and shoulders, and sleeves or armholes that stop the bag from being pulled up over the head. Both Morrison bags I recommend below have these. A few safety notes from my own trial and error camping with an infant: - **Don’t overbundle.** My worst night out was overheating my daughter in a sleep sack plus too many layers she woke up drenched in sweat. An overheated baby is as risky as a cold one. - **Match the bag to the temperature, not your fears.** Dress to the bag’s rating; a 40°F bag in 30°F weather isn’t enough. - **Skip loose add-ons.** No extra blankets stuffed in “just in case.” The bag is the system. Luckily, two brands came out with real baby sleeping bags for camping shortly after that.  These were a game-changer. I actually don’t think you need a lot of gear to go camping (with a baby or not), but a proper sleeping bag is a must-have.  Unfortunately, no more brands have come out with baby sleeping bags since then. So, there are still only two options.  I’ve listed them here, as well as some good sleep sacks that can work for camping in warm weather.   If you are confused about options, like how warm the bag needs to be, scroll down for the buying guide. [![baby in tent on sleeping pad](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/baby-on-sleeping-pad.jpg "baby on sleeping pad - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/baby-on-sleeping-pad.jpg)My baby on one of her first camping trips Shes in a fleece sleeping sack because there werent any other options at the time **Need more advice? Read:** - [Tips for Camping with a Baby](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-with-baby/) - [How to Sleep in a Tent with a Baby](https://momgoescamping.com/sleep-tent-with-baby/) - [Best Baby Camping Beds](https://momgoescamping.com/baby-camping-beds/) - See the [best baby camping chairs](https://momgoescamping.com/the-only-baby-camping-chairs-worth-buying/) for outdoor use here. ## **Quick Picks:** - **Cold temps (20F-40F):** The [Morrison Little Mo down bag 20F](https://momgoescamping.com/morrison-down) is currently the only baby sleeping bag for cold temperatures. - **Mild temps (40F-60F):** The  [Little Mo 40F](https://momgoescamping.com/morrison-synthetic) is warm and has all the same features as the 20F version. - **Warmer weather (50F-65F):** The budget-friendly [BabyDeeDee bag](https://momgoescamping.com/deedeebag) is best for camping in warmer weather. It’s good down to ~50F. The removable sleeves is a great feature. Alternatively, the [ErgoBaby](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08GKFHQ1Y/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08GKFHQ1Y&linkId=cb9667c4fb690151e4af3f7ab9e60cd8) or [Woolino](https://amzn.to/2O5UYlT) sleep sacks are good enough for warm weather and can also be used everyday at home, too. ## Best Baby Sleeping Bags for Camping ### **1. Morrison Little Mo 20F Sleeping Bag** ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Morrison-Outdoors-5.jpg "Morrison Outdoors 5 - Mom Goes Camping") **Best For:** Camping or backpacking in colder weather **Where to buy: [Available here](https://momgoescamping.com/morrison-down)** I love this brand: It is a small, local company which was started and is still run by outdoorsy parents. When they couldn’t find a suitable baby sleeping bag for backpacking, they decided to design their own.  They started on Kickstarter and have since grown into a company with a huge following and a nice range of sleeping bags for babies and little kids. Their “Little Mo 20F” is their lighterweight, warmer baby sleeping bag. It’s made out of high-quality down.  It weighs just 9oz so is suitable for backpacking with your baby. It’s also very compact; once in the stuff sack, it’s about the size of a water bottle. Currently, the Little Mo 20F is the only baby sleeping bag suitable for cold weather. It even has an insulated draft tube so no cold air can get in through the zipper. There’s a footbox and the hands area is closed so your baby’s hands stay warm too.  As of 2024, all Morrison down sleeping bags have fold-back cuffs, so you can have the hands be open or closed.  The older versions of the down bags only had closed cuffs, so your baby couldn’t use their hands. I’m glad they updated this. The only real downsides of this sleeping bag is that **it might be too warm**. Seriously, the sleeping bag is super poofy and not meant for summer camping at low elevations. It’s best used for backcountry camping or backpacking with a baby in cold temps. If you want to learn more, read my [full review of Morrison sleeping bags](https://momgoescamping.com/morrison-sleeping-bags-review/) here. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Morrison-Outdoors-7.jpg "Morrison Outdoors 7 - Mom Goes Camping")*The Morrison baby sleeping bag is adjustable to fit babies from 6 to 24 months  Note that as of 2024 all of the down bags have the fold back cuff feature [Buy it here](https://momgoescamping.com/morrison-down)* #### **Pros:** - Suitable for temps down to 20F - Fits babies 6-24 months - Machine washable - 800 fill power down - Water-resistant ripstop nylon outer - Open or closed hand cuffs options - Built-in footbox to keep your baby’s toes warm - Comes with stuff sack - Weighs just 9oz - Bottom-opening zipper for easy diaper changes #### **Cons:** - Not stroller or car seat compatible - A bit pricy **\*Morrison now has a [trade-in program](https://morrisonoutdoors.com/pages/trade-in-your-gear-with-re-routed-co-op?aff=3&aff=3): When your baby outgrows the Little Mo sleeping bag, you can get cash-back for it plus a discount on the toddler size bag.**  The used Little Mo bags will be cleaned and sold at a discount with a portion of every sale going to HikeItBaby. **[Get It Here](https://momgoescamping.com/morrison-down) \*\*\*Use discount code *Momgoescamping* at checkout to get 10% off!\*\*\*** --- ### 2. Morrison Little Mo 40F Sleeping Bag ![Morrison Little Mo 40F baby sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/morrison-bags-min.jpg "morrison bags-min - Mom Goes Camping") **Best For:** Car camping in moderate temperatures **Where to Buy: [Available here](https://momgoescamping.com/morrison-synthetic)** Here’s another baby sleeping bag by Morrison (disclosure: the brand sent me one for free to test!). The difference with the 20F and 40F version is that the 40F is made from synthetic filling instead of down.  Because of that, the sleeping bag is cheaper.  However, synthetic insulation means the sleeping bag is not as warm, compact, or lightweight as the down version. However, it’s still warm down to 40F.  And, seriously, most families probably aren’t camping with their baby at temps lower than 40F, so this is a great option. Personally, I also don’t like the stuff sack that it comes in.  It’s long and thin (like a hot dog), so I have to squish it to get it to fit in my backpack. I’d prefer if it had a shorter but wider stuff sack (like a marshmallow). This only matters if you are backpacking or hiking into camp, though. For car camping, the stuff sack is just fine. #### **Pros:** - Suitable for temps down to 40F - Fits 6-24 months - Machine washable - Polyester synthetic fill - Water-resistant ripstop nylon outer - Open or closed hand cuffs options - Weighs 15.1oz - Bottom-opening zipper for easy diaper changes #### **Cons:** - Not stroller or car seat compatible **[Get It Here](https://momgoescamping.com/morrison-synthetic) \*\*\*Remember to use discount code *Momgoescamping* at checkout to get 10% off!\*\*\*** --- ### 3. BabyDeeDee Sleep Nest Travel ![babydeedee camping sleeping bag for babies](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/babydeedee-travel-nest.jpg "babydeedee travel nest - Mom Goes Camping") **Best For:** Camping in mild and warm weather **Where to Buy: [Get it here](https://momgoescamping.com/deedeebag)  \*The baby size is often sold out 🙁** The brand BabyDeeDee has made baby sleep sacks for a long time, including this which is suitable made specifically for camping and outdoors.  Full disclosure: This company also sent me a free sleeping bag to test out. Yes, my baby had two sleeping bags for camping! 🙂 The BabyDeeDee bag is TOG 3.5, which means it’s good down to about 50F. I’ve used it to camp in slightly colder weather, but had to put my baby in multiple layers to make it work. While this is not be the warmest baby sleeping bag for camping, it is IMO the easiest to use.  I love that it has removable sleeves – which is good if you are camping in hot weather. I also love that there are shoulder snaps. These make it possible for me to get my baby in/out while she’s sleeping without waking her. Here’s how it works: I fully open up the sleeping bag, including the shoulder snaps, before bedtime.  Then I rock her to sleep.  Once asleep, I lay her on top of the open sleeping bag and zip/snap her inside. The sleeping bag comes in three sizes from 0 to 36 months.  Note that many people complain that the sleeves are a bit narrow and short.  I asked for a larger size so I’d get more use out of it. \*Read my [full review of the BabyDeeDee sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/babydeedee-sleep-nest-travel/) here. ![baby in sleeping bag camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Lydia-in-babydeedee-sleeping-bag.jpg "Lydia in babydeedee sleeping bag - Mom Goes Camping")*Heres my girl at 13 months in the [BabyDeeDee sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/deedeebag)* #### **Pros:** - Removable sleeves - Stroller-compatible - Bottom-opening zipper for easy diaper changes - Shoulder snaps for easily getting baby in/out - Affordable - Machine washable - Water-resistant outer fabric #### **Cons:** - Not adjustable - Only good to 50F - Doesn’t come with stuff sack **[Get It Here](https://momgoescamping.com/deedeebag)** --- ### **4. Ergo Pouch 3.5 Tog Sleeping Bag** [![Ergo baby sleep suit](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/ergo-baby-sleep-suit.jpg "ergo baby sleep suit - Mom Goes Camping")](https://amzn.to/2Qm7IUu) **Best For:** An everyday sleep sack that can works decently for camping too **Where to Buy: [Get it here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08GKFHQ1Y/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08GKFHQ1Y&linkId=cb9667c4fb690151e4af3f7ab9e60cd8)![](//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&l=ur2&o=1)** While this sleep suit by Ergo Pouch might not be made for camping, it can still work for camping trips in mild weather.  The bag is 3.5 TOG, which means that it will keep your baby warm down to around 50F.  You’ll need to put 2+ layers on your baby for for camping in colder weather. The reason that this sleep suit is so popular is that it lets you zip the middle to create legs.  This features means you can use the sleep sack in baby carriers or strollers too. The downside of the zip legs is that the zipper doesn’t go all the way down the front, meaning it’s harder to get your baby in/out. Since this sleeping bag isn’t made for camping, it isn’t even slightly waterproof or water-resistant.  If your baby has a diaper blowout, the cotton will take a while to dry.  Make sure you have a backup plan! **Note:** ErgoPouch used to make a 3-12 month size of this.  It’s been out of stock for a while.  Now, the only infant sized bag they have is 2.5 tog (good to about 60F; [see it here](https://amzn.to/3JwBphY)).  The 3.5 TOG bag is 35 inches long, so best for babies 8 months old. #### **Pros:** - Zips to create legs - TOG 3.5 - Available in lots of cute designs and colors - Machine washable cold; tumble dry #### **Cons:** - Cotton is not water-resistant and takes forever to dry! - Not suitable for cold weather camping - Currently no infant size in warmer version **[Get It Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08GKFHQ1Y/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08GKFHQ1Y&linkId=cb9667c4fb690151e4af3f7ab9e60cd8)![](//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&l=ur2&o=1)** --- ### 5. Woolino Baby Sleep Sack [![Woolino winter sleep suit](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/woolino.jpg "woolino - Mom Goes Camping")](https://amzn.to/2CPRSi7) **Best For:** When you want a breathable sleeping bag for warm-weather camping **Where to Buy:** [**Get it here**](https://amzn.to/45Oo1jW) Woolino is a really popular brand of baby sleeping bags and pajamas.  While this sleep sack isn’t made for camping, it is a lot better than most other sleep suits because it’s made from wool. Compared to other materials, wool is very warm but still breathable, which makes it easier to regulate body temperature.  Wool is also naturally water-resistant, so if your baby has a diaper leak, then the sleep sack will dry much faster than cotton sleep suits. The sleep sack is rated for 4-season/winter use, but that’s obviously for indoors. To make this sleeping bag work for camping, you’ll need to: put your baby in warm jammies, put a wool or fleece jacket on, and then put them in the sleep sack. With these layers, the baby sleeping bag should be good for most summer camping trips down to 45-55F at night. Alternatively, you could use the Woolino in combination with one of the other sleeping bags here (like the Little Mo 40 or Baby Dee Dee) to create a combo suitable for colder temps. #### **Pros:** - Made from Merino wool and organic cotton - Naturally water-resistant and fast-drying - Available in sizes 0 to 18 months - Two way zipper for easy diaper changes - Zipper design makes it easy to get baby in/out, even while sleeping - Machine washable cold, hang to dry #### **Cons:** - No sleeves - Not suitable for cold-weather camping - Expensive [**Get It Here**](https://amzn.to/45Oo1jW) --- ## Can My Baby Sleep Co-Sleep with Me in My Sleeping Bag? I do *not* recommend sharing a sleeping bag with your baby. Aside from the potential safety hazards, it is incredibly inconvenient. Good luck getting in/out of the sleeping bag without waking your child! If you aren’t convinced, read this article on [co-sleeping with a baby while camping](https://momgoescamping.com/co-sleeping-baby-camping/). ## Can My Baby Use a Sleep Sack for Camping? When I first took my baby camping, I didn’t have a proper sleeping bag.  So I used a sleep sack (aka wearable blanket).  These are *not* made for camping.  They are meant to be used indoors in fairly warm temperatures. To make the sleep sack work for camping, I had to put my baby in multiple layers.  This made it really difficult to regulate her body temperature.  I was constantly worried she was cold.  And nighttime diaper changes were difficult because of all of those layers.  Her diaper leaked on one trip. Luckily it was sunny outside so the sleep sack dried before bedtime. By contrast, baby sleeping bags designed for camping (which are currently only Morrison and BabyDeeDee) are much easier to use outdoors. They are made from a water-resistant material which also does a good job of keeping dirt away. The material fast if it does get wet. And, in the case of the Morrison sleeping bag, it is actually made for camping in cold-weather.  It even has an option for keeping your baby’s hands covered at night. **In short: you can get by with a sleep sack when camping, but sleeping will be much easier with a real** **camping sleeping bag for your baby.** ## How Warm Does the Baby Sleeping Bag Need to Be for Camping? Almost every parent I’ve talked to was worried that their baby would be too cold at night in the tent.  It’s a legitimate concern — especially if you are trying to get by with a sleep sack instead of a real camping sleeping bag. To ensure your baby stays warm: ### 1. First Check the Actual Nighttime Temperatures If you are camping anywhere with high elevation, the temperatures can drop unexpectedly low at night. It’s important that you understand what low nighttime temperatures to expect.  Don’t just rely on the local weather forecast: You might have to do some math to [figure out the actual forecast](https://momgoescamping.com/how-cold-is-too-cold-for-tent-camping/). Then make sure your baby’s sleeping bag is warm enough for these temperatures. ### 2. Check the Sleeping Bag Temperature Ratings Only the [Morrison Little Mo sleeping bags](https://momgoescamping.com/morrison-down) have temperature ratings (40F or 20F, depending on the version). Other sleeping bags and sleep sacks use the TOG rating system. This rating tells what *room temperature* the sleep sack is suitable for. The warmest TOG rating is 3.5, which is still only good for down to around 50F.  If you want to use a TOG 3.5 sleeping bag for camping in colder weather, you’ll have to put your baby in multiple layers of warm jammies. ### 3. Make Sure Your Baby Doesn’t Sweat It’s really important that your baby doesn’t get sweaty if you want her to stay warm in the sleeping bag. Sweat = wet = evaporation = cold. To prevent sweating, make sure you use breathable pajamas (preferably with a Merino wool base layer and fleece layer on top).  Also don’t over-bundle your baby. Your baby only needs as many layers are you are wearing to stay warm. Still worried your baby will get cold? [**Read this guide to sleeping in a tent with a baby**](https://momgoescamping.com/sleep-tent-with-baby/). ![baby sleeping bag TOG ratings](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/TOG-ratings.jpg "TOG ratings - Mom Goes Camping") ## Features to Look For in Camping Baby Sleeping Bags Below are some of the features of baby camping sleeping bags which you may want: - **Reverse zipper:** This feature is mandatory IMO. It means you can unzip the sleeping bag from the bottom to do diaper changes without removing your baby from the sleeping bag. - **Water**–**resistant material:** Avoid cotton as this absorbs water like a sponge. - **Removable sleeves:** These are nice if you will mostly be camping in warmer weather. - **Fold back hand covers:** This feature is great for camping in colder weather so you don’t have to worry about putting gloves on your baby. - **Stroller compatible:** Some baby sleeping bags have a hole in the back for stroller straps to go through. This will let some cold air in though, so they might not be as warm. - **Zippable legs**: Sometimes there is a zipper so you can turn the bottom of the sleeping bag into legs. I don’t find this useful for sleeping but it is useful if you want to use the sleeping bag in a baby carrier or stroller. - **Machine washable**: Who wants to hand wash their baby’s sleeping bag? ## Other Baby Sleeping Gear for Camping Your baby can have the warmest sleeping bag in the world.  But, if she doesn’t have a good sleeping pad, the she will not be warm. The ground will literally suck the heat out of her body.  I personally like the [Therm-A-Rest RidgeRest](https://amzn.to/2Cb8ZLi).  Also see my picks for [best baby sleeping pads for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/baby-sleeping-pads-camping/). If your baby rolls around a lot in her sleep (or you are worried about rolling over on your baby), then you might also want a [portable baby camping bed](https://momgoescamping.com/baby-camping-beds/). And don’t forget about good pajamas. They need to be breathable and worn in layers. I like a [Merino wool baby base layer with fleece jammies on top](https://momgoescamping.com/best-camping-pajamas-for-kids/). [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/fleece-jammies.jpg "fleece jammies - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/fleece-jammies.jpg)Baby DeeDee makes [these cute fleece jammies](https://amzn.to/3UPjrwU) which are great for camping available in sizes from 3 to 24 months ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear, Camping with Kids **Tags:** babies, sleeping bags --- ### [Is It Rude to Camp with a Baby?](https://momgoescamping.com/is-it-rude-to-camp-with-a-baby/) **Published:** April 12, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** No, it is not crazy to go camping with a baby.  However, whether it is *rude* to camp with a baby is debatable.  On one hand, parents deserve to go camping and there are some benefits for the baby too.  On the other hand, parents know that their baby – who will presumably cry for at least part of the night – could disturb other people who are trying to relax and enjoy their vacation. Read more About Camping With a Baby Below: - [Bad Camping Etiquette](https://momgoescamping.com/bad-camping-etiquette/) - [How to Plan Your First Camping Trip with Kids](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-plan-your-first-camping-trip-with-kids-a-moms-guide/) - [Best Baby Camping Chairs](https://momgoescamping.com/the-only-baby-camping-chairs-worth-buying/) - [How to Plan Your First Camping Trip with Kids](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-plan-your-first-camping-trip-with-kids-a-moms-guide/) - [Best Baby Camping Chairs Worth Buying](https://momgoescamping.com/the-only-baby-camping-chairs-worth-buying/) - Read my full guide to the [best baby sleeping bags for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/best-baby-sleeping-bags-camping/) here. - See the [best baby camping chairs](https://momgoescamping.com/the-only-baby-camping-chairs-worth-buying/) for outdoor use here. ## Yes, People Will Be Annoyed There are plenty of wonderful people who empathize with parents and won’t be bothered by a crying baby.  As one camper [said](https://www.ukcampsite.co.uk/chatter/display_topic_threads.asp?ForumID=3&TopicID=158194&ThreadPage=1), “The only noise that your neighbors will be bothered about will be inconsiderate noise, not noise that can’t be helped.” But let’s be real here.  Not everyone loves babies.  And, while they might not complain about it to you, no one wants to camp next to a screaming baby. Reddit threads are full of people complaining about how babies ruined their camping trip. Here are just some of the comments: “It infuriates me when people bring babies or really young children tent camping. That is just a horrible experience for the kids! Their sleep will get disrupted and then everyone else surrounding the area they’re camping in will be miserable too.” “It’s a dick move to bring babies to places they’re going to interfere with other peoples relaxation. We’re talking about an infant. Infants cry. Loudly. Dont bring them to places where a quiet environment is part of the experience. It’s not fair to ANYONE involved and completely lacking in social awareness. How is this not common sense?” ## How Much Do You Care about Annoying Other Campers? If you are really worried about your baby crying and bothering the other campers, then campground camping with your baby isn’t the smartest idea. You will get stressed each time your baby cries.  Your baby will then pick up on the stress, causing the crying to get worse. Instead, you might try [dispersed (wild) camping](https://momgoescamping.com/find-free-camping/) with your baby instead.  If there is no one around, then there is no one to bother.   This is what I did when my daughter was a baby. Admittedly, wild camping with a baby can be tricky.  There’s no running water, toilets or trash cans for all those poopy diapers.  So I understand why many parents choose to stay at campgrounds instead. (For advice, read this [guide to camping with a baby](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-with-baby/))                                               **Taking the kids camping for the first time?** My “Your Family’s First Camping Trip” bundle has the complete guide, printable packing checklist, and three done-for-you itineraries — everything from booking the site to the drive home. **[                                                                      Get the bundle →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/1stcampingtrip)** ### To Minimize Annoyance If you are camping at a campground, at the very least: - **Choose a family-friendly campground**: There will be other parents (and probably babies) so they will understand your plight. - **Avoid busy times:** It’s generally not smart to take a baby camping on the busiest camping days of the year. There are too many people who will not be understanding (even when they are the ones annoyingly drunk or playing loud music). - **Request an isolated camp site:** Tell the campground you have a baby and ask if you can get the most isolated camp site. They might even put you next to another family. - **Get your sleep setup right:** The faster you can get your baby back in bed, the faster she will stop crying. You’ll need a [baby sleeping bag which zips open from the bottom](https://momgoescamping.com/best-baby-sleeping-bags-camping/) for diaper changes and [don’t even bother trying to co-sleep](https://momgoescamping.com/co-sleeping-baby-camping/)! ## Campgrounds Are Noisy Places Even though I have two kids, I don’t like babies (yep, I’m admitting it).  It drives me crazy when people bring their babies to places which aren’t really meant for babies.  I’m talking about cafes (where I am sitting to get some quiet away from my kids!), fancy restaurants, movie theaters and even bars. But campgrounds are different.   They are notoriously family-friendly places.  And let’s not forget about all the other [obnoxious things campers do](https://momgoescamping.com/bad-camping-etiquette/). If someone doesn’t want to camp around crying babies, you can argue that *they* should be the ones to camp somewhere else.   Instead of letting their camping trip get “ruined” by your baby, *they* can be the ones to go backpacking or wild camping instead. As one Redditor said, “I’ve had people arriving late/leaving early (and some doing so at a time I’m not sure if it was late or early). Generators running all night. People making lots of noise while cooking late into the night. Moaners and screamers. Youth groups. **I find all of those just as irritating as a crying baby, but they are all part of choosing to camp in a public place.** Of the bunch, the crying baby is the only one that people are going to be actively working to quiet down.” ## Let’s Assume that You Aren’t an A-Hole… Parenting is hard and exhausting.  So, it’s easy for parents to forget how annoying their kids are for other people. But let’s assume you haven’t forgotten this. Let’s also assume that you aren’t one of the parents with an “Instagram-filtered fantasy of what camping with their baby is like and love the idea of being The Most Adorable Young Family Ever posting flattering pictures.” In that case, it is NOT rude to take your baby camping.  You just need to be considerate and prepared. ### Apologize to the Neighbors For starters, apologize in advance to the neighbors for any crying or disturbances.   They will be less annoyed if they know you aren’t acting like an entitled parent who doesn’t care about the disturbance your baby causes. Of course the neighbors will say they don’t mind.  As one camping parent said, “I used to apologize to my neighbors about my baby crying in the night. They used to tell me they didn’t hear a sound so no problem. It made me feel far more relaxed and less stressed at 3am trying to sooth the baby back to sleep (which helps sooth the baby as well because they will pick up on stressed parents). In hindsight there is no way my neighbors couldn’t hear, the walls just aren’t that thick! Bless them and their tolerance. Helped a lot more than they probably know.” However, you still might want pack a “goody bag” with some snacks and earplugs to hand out to the neighbors. 🙂 ### Have a Plan to Deal with the Crying The ways you calm your baby at home might not work when camping.  For example, if you normally walk your baby around to get her back to sleep, you won’t be able to do this in a small tent.   Your plan might involve getting a new tent which you can actually stand up inside.  You’ll also need a dimmable lamp so you don’t trip and fall while carrying the baby in a messy tent. Plan ahead about how you will do diaper changes (get a [proper baby sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/best-baby-sleeping-bags-camping/) which can be opened from the bottom), feedings, and other baby tasks while in the tent at night.  It takes some practice but isn’t nearly as difficult as you might think. Oh, and if you’ve never gone camping before, it’s probably not the smartest thing to try it for the first time with a baby! ## Camping with a Baby FAQ: #### Is it okay to take a newborn camping? Most pediatricians advise waiting until a baby is at least 2 to 3 months old before camping, mainly to ensure their immune system is more developed and they can better regulate their temperature. Before that, the combination of temperature variability, disrupted sleep schedules, and exposure to smoke and insects adds up to more risk than reward. From 3 months onward, camping with a baby is perfectly reasonable with the right gear. #### How do you get a baby to sleep while camping? Bring their sleep environment from home as closely as possible the same sleeping bag, the same sleep sack, the same stuffed animal. White noise helps mask unfamiliar campground sounds; a phone app or small portable speaker works fine. Expect the first night to be harder than normal and the second night to be significantly better. The adjustment is normal. #### What campground is best for camping with a baby? A family-designated campground with running water and bathrooms close to your site. Drive-up access so you can unload directly. Loop or pull-through sites so leaving quietly at 6am is possible without waking the whole campground. Avoid primitive sites, walk-in sites, and any campground without flush toilets for a baby’s first trip. #### Should I warn camping neighbors about my baby? Yes — a quick heads-up goes a long way. Something like “we have a four-month-old, she may cry in the night, sorry in advance” defuses almost all tension before it starts. People are far more tolerant of disturbances they’ve been warned about than ones that blindside them at 2am. #### Is it safer to camp with a baby in a tent or an RV? An RV offers more temperature control and easier nighttime access to supplies, which makes it easier. But a tent is perfectly safe for a baby if you’re managing temperature correctly which means a proper sleeping bag rated for the conditions and checking the back of their neck (not their hands) to gauge warmth. The biggest tent-specific risk is overheating in hot weather, not cold. Ventilate your tent and park in shade. **For more, read: [How to Sleep in a Tent with a Baby ](https://momgoescamping.com/sleep-tent-with-baby/)** For more on what to bring, see my guide to the **[best baby sleeping bags for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/best-baby-sleeping-bags-camping/)**. --- Sources: <https://www.reddit.com/r/camping/comments/b7exmh/unpopular_opinion_please_dont_go_tent_camping/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/mr8k14/wibta_if_i_told_the_people_with_the_loud/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/camping/comments/2z0i72/camping_with_a_baby/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/childfree/comments/f23pru/campsite_babies/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/mr8k14/wibta_if_i_told_the_people_with_the_loud/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/childfree/comments/mgarnn/newborn_ruined_my_perfect_camping_experience/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/mr8k14/wibta_if_i_told_the_people_with_the_loud/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/camping/comments/3bru5m/camping_with_baby_how_to_handle_crying/> <https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/parenting/1803745-Camping-and-baby-crying-in-the-night> Image credit: “[2017 Think Outside Photo Contest entry](https://www.flickr.com/photos/vastateparksstaff/23725671398/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [vastateparksstaff](https://www.flickr.com/people/vastateparksstaff/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** baby --- ### [How to Give a Baby a Bath When Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/give-baby-bath-camping/) **Published:** March 4, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** If you are the type of person to take your baby camping, then it’s safe to assume that you are not a clean freak and probably also know that exposure to bacteria actually helps build a baby’s immunity.  Your baby can skip bath time and be fine. A few wet wipes will be enough to keep your kid clean.  But, if you are going on a longer camping trip, you might need to give your baby a bath at some point. Read more about etiquette while camping : - [DIY Camp Showers](https://momgoescamping.com/diy-camp-showers/) - [Portable Camp Sinks](https://momgoescamping.com/portable-camp-sinks/) - [Is It Rude to Camp with a Baby?](https://momgoescamping.com/is-it-rude-to-camp-with-a-baby/) - [Best Baby Sleeping Bags](https://momgoescamping.com/best-baby-sleeping-bags-camping/) - See the [best baby camping chairs](https://momgoescamping.com/the-only-baby-camping-chairs-worth-buying/) for outdoor use here. It can be a bit tricky to give a baby a bath when camping so below are some tips. **New to camping with a baby? Also read:** - [How to Go Camping with a Baby](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-with-baby/) - [Baby Camping Checklist (Printable)](https://momgoescamping.com/baby-camping-checklist-printable/) - [Best Baby Sleeping Bags](https://momgoescamping.com/best-baby-sleeping-bags-camping/) - [How to Sleep in a Tent with a Baby](https://momgoescamping.com/sleep-tent-with-baby/) - **[best baby sleeping bags for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/best-baby-sleeping-bags-camping/)**. ## Bring a Bucket Using a bucket to bathe your baby while camping is probably the easiest solution.   You can also use an inflatable baby pool. [![bath bath in a bucket when camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/baby-bath-in-bucket-when-camping.jpg "baby bath in bucket when camping - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/baby-bath-in-bucket-when-camping.jpg) As a bonus, the same bucket of water can keep older babies and toddlers entertained for a long time.  My daughter (below) loved splashing the water and tossing things in the bucket.  It kept her busy for a record-breaking 40 minutes! [![baby playing with water when camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/baby-playing-with-water-camping.jpg "baby playing with water camping - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/baby-playing-with-water-camping.jpg) ## Heating the Bath Water If the campground doesn’t have hot water, just mix some cold water with boiling water to get the right temperature before plopping your baby inside.  Yes, you will need to make sure you have enough fuel for heating water. To conserve fuel, you can partially fill the bucket with water in the morning. Put it somewhere in the sun.  The sunlight will heat the water up a bit.  Then you just add some boiling water to get it warmer.                                       **Taking the kids camping for the first time?** My “Your Family’s First Camping Trip” bundle has the complete guide, printable packing checklist, and three done-for-you itineraries — everything from booking the site to the drive home. **[                                                                 Get the bundle →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/1stcampingtrip)** ## Move Bath Time to Mid Day I know you might be trying to keep your normal schedule while camping, but it can get too cold in the evening to give your baby a bath.   If it is cold or cloudy that day, then postpone bath time until the weather is better. [![using a bucket to give a bath a bath when camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/baby-bath-in-bucket-camping-2.jpg "baby bath in bucket camping 2 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/baby-bath-in-bucket-camping-2.jpg) ## Using the Campground Shower to Bathe Your Baby Campground bathrooms are notoriously dirty and gross.  They won’t have a bathtub and probably won’t have an anti-slip mat on the shower either. If you do decide to go this route, you’ll need to get in the shower with your baby.  This means both of you get naked (hope you aren’t the shy type).  You hold your baby while simultaneously lathering and rinsing. Here’s the problem with this: Babies are squirmy and slippery when wet.  Campground showers rarely have anti-slip mats on the floor.  I personally would not feel safe holding my infant in a camp shower!  On top of that, you have to somehow get a towel around your baby *and* yourself – all while holding the baby. ## Push a Stroller into the Shower Stall Here’s a cool tip (I read [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/camping/comments/kyk1b3/waking_up_in_a_tent_with_a_6_month_old_baby_like/)) to make bath time in the campground showers easier: Put your baby in a cheap umbrella stroller.  Push the stroller into the shower stall.  Hose your baby off until they are clean. This way, you don’t a have to worry about slipping or dropping your baby in the shower. ## Choose a Campsite Near Water If the weather is warm enough, choose a campsite near water.  Then your baby can have some swim time or splash-in-the-stream time while also getting clean.  Just don’t use soap in the water! [![baby swimming and getting bath while camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/swimming-with-baby-for-bath-camping.jpg "baby swimming and getting bath while camping - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/swimming-with-baby-for-bath-camping.jpg) ## Be Careful Where You Dispose of Soapy Water Even biodegradable soap really shouldn’t be dumped into streams, ponds, lakes or other natural water sources.  It is bad for the environment and animals living there and against the principles of [Leave No Trace](https://lnt.org/leave-no-trace-skill-dishwashing-for-frontcountry).  Either don’t use any soap or take the time to empty your bucket *at least* 200 feet (70 steps) from the natural water source. ## Don’t Use the Campground Dish Sinks for Bath Time! I wish I didn’t have to write this, but please do not give your baby a bath in the campground sinks meant for washing dishes.  I really don’t want a baby’s butt in the same sink where I wash my dishes or produce.   You might be able to get away with this if you use the campground’s *laundry* sinks, but still expect some evil-eye stares. ## Baby Bath While Camping FAQ: #### Do you really need to bathe a baby every day while camping? No — and this is one of the things worth letting go of while camping. A few wet wipes in key areas (diaper zone, neck folds, hands, face) keeps a baby clean enough for several days without a full bath. Skipping daily baths is completely fine for a short camping trip, and babies actually tolerate the dirt better than most parents expect. #### What water temperature should a baby bath be when camping? Same as at home warm but not hot, around body temperature. Test it on the inside of your wrist before putting your baby in. When heating with a camp stove, boil a small amount and mix it into a larger volume of cooler water until you hit the right temperature. Never put your baby directly into water that’s been heated on a stove. #### What soap is safe to use for a baby bath while camping? A biodegradable, fragrance-free baby soap is the safest choice for both your baby’s skin and the environment. Even biodegradable soaps shouldn’t go directly into natural water sources dispose of soapy water at least 200 feet (about 70 paces) from any stream, lake, or pond. #### Can you use a collapsible camping sink to bathe a baby? Yes — a collapsible camping sink is actually ideal for a baby bath. It’s bigger than a bucket, has straighter sides that are easier to work with, and collapses flat for packing. Fill it with warm water and set it on a picnic table for the easiest camp bath setup. #### Is it safe to bathe a baby in a campground shower? It’s awkward and carries slip risk, but manageable if you bring a non-slip mat and get in with your baby. The stroller method (rolling a cheap umbrella stroller into the shower stall) works well for babies who can sit independently. For younger babies, the bucket method at your campsite is safer. --- Image credits: “[baby in bucket](https://www.flickr.com/photos/tim_and_selena/1202390916/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Tim & Selena Middleton](https://www.flickr.com/people/tim_and_selena/) “[A camp bath](https://www.flickr.com/photos/christophercraig/2534668511/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [christophercraig](https://www.flickr.com/people/christophercraig/) “[Bath in a bucket](https://www.flickr.com/photos/jenpilot/4679410934/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [jenpilot](https://www.flickr.com/people/jenpilot/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** baby --- ### [Tips for Co-Sleeping with a Baby while Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/co-sleeping-baby-camping/) **Published:** November 20, 2019 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Going camping with your baby? One option is to co-sleep in the same sleeping bag.  I honestly recommend *against* co-sleeping while camping.  However, if you want to do it safely and comfortably, follow these tips. Read more about sleeping bags before: - [best baby sleeping bags for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/best-baby-sleeping-bags-camping/) here. - [Best Baby Sleeping Bags for Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/best-baby-sleeping-bags-camping/) ## Why I Am Opposed to Co-Sleeping in the Same Sleeping Bag I only tried co-sleeping with my baby once during a camping trip. She was 6 months old and the October weather was very cold, so I thought that it would be a good solution.  I was very wrong!  After that trip, I’ll never try it again: My baby is staying in her own sleeping bag! Let me be clear about something: I’m not opposed to co-sleeping with a baby in everyday life. I co-slept with my first daughter and often co-slept with the second too.  However, co-sleeping during a camping trip is completely different than when you are at home.  Here’s why: ### Breastfeeding in the Tent Is a Challenge: There are two ways to breastfeed in a tent while camping: 1. Sitting up 2. Lying down If you go with the sitting up method, **you’ll need to completely remove your baby from the sleeping bag.**  Guess what? It’s COLD at night! Your baby will get cold and probably fussy.  And if she does fall asleep on your boob, good luck getting her situated in the sleeping bag again without waking up. The lying down method means that you can leave your baby in the sleeping bag.  However, this method means that your boobs must be at the same level as the baby’s mouth.  So, **you will have to wriggle your entire torso up and out of the sleeping bag.** This is cold and very uncomfortable (especially in a short tent where your head ends up smushed against the tent wall!). ### Diaper changes are also a challenge: If you have to change a diaper during the middle of the night, **both of you will need to get out of the sleeping bag.**  Again, this means your baby (and you) get cold.  And it’s a lot harder to get a baby back to sleep when she’s cold. ### Suffocation Risk Adult sleeping bags are thick and fairly heavy, so pose a suffocation risk. So, you’ve got to be extra careful that the top of the sleeping bag isn’t too close to your baby’s head. To prevent this, you must keep the baby high up in the sleeping bag – meaning a lot of warmth is lost around the neck area.  You’ll need to make sure your baby has warm layers on and definitely a hat on cold nights. ### You’re Screwed if a Diaper Explosion Occurs Diaper explosions always happen at the worst possible moments.  So don’t be surprised if it occurs while camping. If your baby is in her own sleeping bag, this isn’t such a big deal: you can just take her out and co-sleep for the night.  But, if you are sharing a sleeping bag, your sleeping bag (and pajamas) are now gross and wet.  Unless you brought a backup sleeping bag for yourself, you are screwed. ### You’ll Wake Your Baby Every Time You Get In/Out of the Sleeping Bag I don’t go to sleep at the same time as my baby when camping.  So, if co-sleeping in the same sleeping bag, she would end up in there alone – which means it won’t be nearly as warm without my body heat.  I’d rather put her to bed in her own sleeping bag.  Then I can hold her while sitting around the fire and transfer her to the tent when I decide to go to sleep. ## Still Want to Try Co-Sleeping in the Same Sleeping Bag? Despite all of these issues with co-sleeping in a sleeping bag with a baby, a lot of parents still do it successfully.  I know several parents who wouldn’t even consider putting their babies in their own sleeping bags. If you want to try co-sleeping, I suggest following these tips. ### Use a Double-Wide Sleeping Bag! A double-wide sleeping bag means you won’t be cramped inside with your baby (and worrying about crushing baby all night). [**Recommended: Teton Sports Mammoth bag.** An affordable option which is also very warm.](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=teton+sports+mammoth+double+sleeping+bag&tag=momcampnew-20) ### You’ll Also Need a Double-Wide Sleeping Pad In theory, you could just put two normal width sleeping pads next to each under your sleeping bag.  However, **gaps inevitably form between the pads as you move around at night**– meaning you or your baby get cold.  So, you seriously need to get a double-wide sleeping pad to match your double-wide sleeping bag. [Double Wide Sleeping Pad on Amazon:](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=double+camping+sleeping+pad&tag=momcampnew-20) ### Put Your Baby in Warm Layers Your baby needs to be kept high up in the sleeping bag in order to prevent suffocation risk.  So, a lot of heat is lost in the space around her neck.  You’ll need to make sure your baby is wearing warm layers of clothes at night. Wool pajamas are the best choice because they are warm yet breathable. Fleece is also a good choice, especially if you are on a budget. If it’s really cold, put a hat and mittens on your baby.  If your baby hates wearing hats, then choose PJs that have a hood.  Or, put a blanket under your baby’s head for added warmth. Read more about camping with a baby below: - [How to Sleep in a Tent with a Baby](https://momgoescamping.com/sleep-tent-with-baby/) - [Best Baby Camping Chairs Worth Buying](https://momgoescamping.com/the-only-baby-camping-chairs-worth-buying/) - [How to Give a Baby a Bath While Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/give-baby-bath-camping/) ### Put a Waterproof Pad Under Your Baby This won’t solve major diaper explosions, but will prevent your sleeping bag from getting wet from minor leaks. ### Wear a Puffy Jacket to Bed There are two benefits to doing this.  First, it means you stay warm when breastfeeding at night.  You can simply unzip the jacket a bit and wriggle up out of the sleeping bag so your boobs are mouth level with your baby’s mouth.  Then your torso won’t freeze during each feeding.  Likewise, you’ll stay warmer when sitting up to feed. The second benefit is that you can sleep with your torso out of the sleeping bag.  IMO, this is a much more comfortable position for co-sleeping since your baby’s head will be in the crook of your arm instead of face-to-face. As I’ve made pretty clear, I still think it’s a terrible idea to co-sleep with your baby while camping.  Save yourself the hassle and get your baby sleeping bag instead.  Not sure which one?  **Read this post for the [best baby sleeping bags for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/best-baby-sleeping-bags-camping/)**. ![morrison baby sleeping bag review](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/morrison-baby-sleeping-bag-review.jpg "morrison baby sleeping bag review - Mom Goes Camping")Warm happy baby in the Morrison sleeping bag [Read the review here](https://momgoescamping.com/morrison-baby-sleeping-bag/)                                        **Taking the kids camping for the first time?** My “Your Family’s First Camping Trip” bundle has the complete guide, printable packing checklist, and three done-for-you itineraries everything from booking the site to the drive home. **[                                                              Get the bundle →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/1stcampingtrip)** ## Co-Sleeping with a Baby Camping FAQ: #### Is it safe to share a sleeping bag with a baby while camping? It carries more risk than at home. Adult sleeping bags are thick and heavy, which creates a suffocation hazard if the fabric gets near the baby’s face. To reduce risk, keep the baby high up in the bag, dress them in warm layers, and use a double-wide bag so you’re not cramped together. A dedicated baby sleeping bag is safer and more comfortable for everyone. #### What’s the best sleeping setup for a baby while camping? A baby-specific sleeping bag rated for the temperature, on their own sleeping pad, next to you in the tent. This keeps them warm, reduces suffocation risk, means diaper changes don’t disturb you both, and lets you put them to bed before you’re ready to sleep. The Morrison Little Mo is the most recommended option for under-3s. #### How do you keep a baby warm when camping in cold weather? Wool or fleece pajamas as a base layer, a properly rated sleeping bag over the top, and a hat. Check the back of their neck not their hands to gauge warmth. If they’re cold, add a hat before adding more layers to the bag. A sleeping pad with a good R-value underneath matters as much as the bag — cold comes from the ground. #### Can a baby sleep in a pack-and-play in a tent? Yes, if the tent is large enough and the temperature stays above about 60°F. A pack-and-play gives the baby a contained, familiar sleep space and removes the co-sleeping safety concerns entirely. The main limitation is size — you need a large cabin tent and the pack-and-play adds significant bulk to car camping gear. #### When can a baby sleep in their own sleeping bag when camping? From birth, in a baby-specific sleeping bag designed for their size and temperature rating. Never put a newborn in an adult sleeping bag they’re too small and the suffocation risk is too high. Purpose-built baby camping sleeping bags like the Morrison Little Mo are designed for babies from about 3 months onward. Read more about baby camping chairs below: [Best Baby Camping Chairs](https://momgoescamping.com/the-only-baby-camping-chairs-worth-buying/) **Got any tips about co-sleeping with your baby while camping? Let us know in the comments section below.** --- Image credit:”[Lyra & the Funhouse](https://www.flickr.com/photos/jennyleesilver/3595561351/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Jenny Lee Silver](https://www.flickr.com/people/jennyleesilver/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** babies --- ### [Baby Sleeping Pads for Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/baby-sleeping-pads-camping/) **Published:** December 11, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Your baby needs the same gear as you do to go camping, and that includes a sleeping pad. The sleeping pad is what insulates your baby from the ground so she stays warm in the night. Here’s what baby sleeping pad I use for camping, plus some tips on choosing the right pad. Read more about camping with your baby below: [ Best Baby Camping Chairs Worth Buying](https://momgoescamping.com/the-only-baby-camping-chairs-worth-buying/) [Co-Sleeping with a Baby While Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/co-sleeping-baby-camping/) ## Choosing the Right Baby Sleeping Pad ![camping with baby](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/therm-a-rest-scout.jpeg "therm-a-rest-scout - Mom Goes Camping")*My daughter at 1 year old on the Therm a Rest Trail Scout pad* Here’s what you should think about when buying baby sleeping pad for camping. If you aren’t sure of your setup yet, read this post on **[How to Sleep in a Tent with a Baby](https://momgoescamping.com/sleep-tent-with-baby/).** ### **R-value:**  R-value is a measure of how much insulation the sleeping pad offers.  To play it safe, I like to have at least an R-value of 3 for my baby. You can put two sleeping pads on top of each other to get more R-value. For example, a pad with an R-value of 1 can go on a pad with an R-value of 2 to give a total of R-value 3. Taking the kids camping for the first time? My “Your Family’s First Camping Trip” bundle has the complete guide, printable packing checklist, and three done-for-you itineraries everything from booking the site to the drive home. **[Get the bundle →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/1stcampingtrip)** ### **Firmness:** Babies must sleep on a firm surface. Inflatable camping mattresses are *not* suitable for babies. However, babies can sleep on self-inflating camping pads or foam camping pads.  Most backpacking air pads are firm enough for a baby, but it’s still safer to choose something firmer. ### **Width**: One issue with [sleeping with a baby in a tent ](https://momgoescamping.com/sleep-tent-with-baby/)is that your baby may roll off the sleeping pad. If that happens, the ground will suck the heat from your baby’s body. You might consider an extra-wide pad so your baby is less likely to move off the pad.  I’ve heard of people using patching glue and Velcro to attach all of their pads together to make a big pad which covers the entire sleeping area in the tent. ### **Does it fit the baby bed?**  If you are using a [baby camping bed](https://momgoescamping.com/baby-camping-beds/), then you’ll need a pad which fits inside. Foam sleeping pads can be cut to fit the crib. Alternatively, you can put a sleeping pad *underneath* the baby bed. ### **Do you want to use the pad outside too?**  I bring my baby’s sleeping pad outside during the day so she can lay/sit on it.  The sleeping pad also doubles as a changing pad. For this reason, I prefer a foam sleeping pad. It won’t puncture like self-inflating pads. ### **Long-Term Use**: Want a sleeping pad that your baby can still use even as she gets older? One solution is to get an extra-long foam pad.  Just fold the foam pad in half to shorten it (this will also double the R-value).  Your baby or other family members can use that same pad later on. ### **Easy to Clean**: It’s almost inevitable that your baby will have a diaper explosion or (as they get older) an accident at night.  So make sure you choose a sleeping pad which is easy to clean! ## What about the Mattress in My Baby’s Camping Bed? If you are using a camping bed for your baby, you will still probably need to bring a sleeping pad. Most portable baby beds have very thin mattresses which offer almost no insulation.  You’ll need to put a sleeping pad inside or underneath the bed. Another issue with foam mattresses is that they absorb pee like a sponge. Once wet, they take a long time to dry and your baby won’t have anything to sleep on in the meantime.  By contrast, most camping sleeping pads are waterproof. ## Best Baby Sleeping Pads for Camping These are all adult sleeping pads which work great for babies too.  I also recommend checking out [REI’s Outlet](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Frei-garage).  They often have huge discounts on good-quality pads. ### Therm-a-Rest Trail Scout ![therm-a-rest scout sleeping pad](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/thermarest-scout.jpg "thermarest scout - Mom Goes Camping") This self-inflating sleeping pad is comfortable and, at R-3.1, it is warm enough for cold-weather camping.  It is also very lightweight and compact.  There is a standard length as well as a short length available.  My older daughter (10) also uses this sleeping pad, so it will grow with your child. - **Type:** Self-inflating - **R-value:** 3.1 - **Size:** 47x21x1” (short) - **Weighs:** 14oz - **Buy At:** [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07YCJG2H4/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07YCJG2H4&linkId=e0d7f2b0a4b184d2c55b39c074ed2573), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dtherm%2Ba%2Brest%2Bscout) --- ### Nemo Switchback Pad ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/switchback-folded-1.jpg "switchback-folded-1 - Mom Goes Camping") The NEMO Switchback is a comfortable foam sleeping pad which your baby will be able to use for many years.  It is fairly warm at R-2 and is lightweight enough for backpacking trips. I really like how the pad packs up accordion style. This also means the pad is easy to fold in half.  Just get the long pad, fold in half, and your baby will get double the R-value.  The folded pad also works great as a seat. Be careful when you order the pad that you get the right size.  The regular pad is 72 inches long and the short is just 51 inches. Both are the same width and thickness. - **Type:** Foam - **R-value:** 2 - **Size:** 72x20x0.9 inches (regular), 50x20x0.9” (short) - **Weighs:** 14.5oz (regular), 10.5oz (short) - **Buy At:** [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07JZZ5PFB/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07JZZ5PFB&linkId=de4f4e6be7af1fefd823e5c342e1e341), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DNemo%2Bswitchback%2Bpad) --- ### Therm-a-Rest Ridgerest ![Therm-a-Rest Ridgerest foam sleeping pad](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/ridgerest.jpg "ridgerest - Mom Goes Camping") Here’s another sleeping pad by Therm-a-Rest.  This one is a closed-cell foam pad.  The foam is pretty dense and gives an R-value of 2. The thing I like about the Therm-a-Rest is that it is cheap. You won’t have qualms about cutting it to fit your baby’s camping bed or even using part to line a stroller.  The pad is available in regular and long sizes. Note that the long size is wider, so choose this if your baby tends to wriggle off the mat. - **Type:** Foam - **R-value:** 2 - **Size:** 72x20x0.625 inches (regular), 77x25x0.625” (long) - **Weighs:** 14oz (regular), 19oz (long) - **Buy At:** [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HANOY9I/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00HANOY9I&linkId=885d5b8556f779bab6f8ac2e23a95adf) --- ### EVA Foam Puzzle Piece Playmat ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/foam-tiles-1.jpg "foam-tiles-1 - Mom Goes Camping") These foam playmat pieces work well as a baby sleeping pad for mild weather.  What I like about these is that they are four times larger than most puzzle playmat pieces (4 sq. feet compared to 1 sq. foot). At 24×24 inches, they are wider than most camping sleeping pads Because of their large size, you can easily take them out of the tent and put them on the ground so your baby has somewhere to crawl around outside. EVA typically has an R-value of 4 per inch of thickness. Each piece is only 0.4 inches thick so these mat pieces are probably R-value 1.5 to 1.6.  Stack the pieces on top of each other to make a thicker pad which provides more insulation and comfort. - **Type:** Foam - **R-value:** N/G - **Size:** 24×24” (per tile; comes with 9 tiles) - **Weighs:** 5lbs - **Buy At:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3RvFKd3) --- ### High-Density Foam Sleeping Pad ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/foam-pad-1.jpg "foam-pad-1 - Mom Goes Camping") I really like these type of foam sleeping pads for camping with babies and little kids.  They are cheap, durable, make great diaper changing pads and won’t burst even if you put them on sharp rocks or thorns.  Just note that some foam sleeping pads are really thin and don’t insulate well.  This one is 0.75 inches thick (most others are 0.5 inch thick or less).  The R-value isn’t listed but it’s probably around R-2. - **R-value:** 2 - **Size:** 24×24” (per tile; comes with 36 tiles) - **Weighs:** 5lbs - **Buy At:** [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07XZSMVLB/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07XZSMVLB&linkId=8e9136d0796efde02f4012fe010e6e27) --- ### REI Double Camp Dreamer Sleeping Pad ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/rei-double-pad-2-1.jpg "rei-double-pad-2-1 - Mom Goes Camping") If you want to sleep comfortably and warm next to your baby in the tent, this double-wide sleeping pad by REI is great.  It is 4 inches thick and has an R-value of 6.6 (warm enough for even winter).  The pad is self-inflating, though you will need to give it a few blows to fully inflate. Once inflated, it’s firm enough for a baby’s back.  I wouldn’t recommend sharing a pad with older babies who wriggle around a lot though. (Read about co-sleeping in the same sleeping bag with a baby). - **Type:** Self-inflating - **R-value:** 6.6 - **Size:** 78x55x4 inches - **Weighs:** 9lbs 5oz - **Buy At:** [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F216297%2Frei-co-op-camp-dreamer-double-self-inflating-deluxe-bed) --- ### KingCamp Double Self-Inflating Sleeping Pad ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/king-camp-1.jpg "king-camp-1 - Mom Goes Camping") Here’s another double-wide sleeping pad if you want to co-sleep with your baby. It’s much cheaper than the REI pad above, so it shouldn’t be surprising that the quality isn’t as great. It is only 1.6 inches thick and there is no R-value given. Because it isn’t insulated, I doubt the R-value is much over R-2.5.  It’s best for summer camping. - **Type:** Self-inflating - **R-value:** N/G - **Size:** 78×51.2×1.6” - **Weighs:** 9lbs 7oz - **Buy At:** [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MU4O59E/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B01MU4O59E&linkId=0eda4bac0c9b0a52e22acdaebecf1144) **Not sure what to bring camping? See this [Printable Baby Camping Checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/baby-camping-checklist-printable/)**. **Also see these [Tips for Camping with a Baby](https://momgoescamping.com/tips-camping-baby/).** ## Baby Sleeping Pad FAQ What R-value does a baby need for camping? To play it safe, look for an R-value of at least 3. You can stack two pads to combine their R-values, an R-1 pad on top of an R-2 pad gives you R-3 total. Folding an extra-long foam pad in half doubles its R-value too, which makes the full-length Nemo Switchback or RidgeRest a smart long-term buy. Can babies sleep on an inflatable camping mattress? No, babies must sleep on a firm surface, and standard inflatable camping mattresses are not suitable. Self-inflating pads and foam camping pads are firm enough. The firmer the better — if you can sink your palm into it more than half an inch, it’s too soft for a baby. Can you cut a foam sleeping pad to fit a baby camping bed? Yes, foam pads can be cut cleanly with a sharp knife or box cutter to fit inside a crib or portable baby bed. A cheap closed-cell pad like the Therm-a-Rest RidgeRest is ideal for cutting since you won’t worry about damaging it. Alternatively put the sleeping pad underneath the bed rather than inside it. How do you stop a baby from rolling off a sleeping pad? Put a rolled sleeping bag, backpack, or folded blanket alongside the edge as a barrier. Some parents cover the entire tent floor with connected foam pads so there’s nowhere to roll to. A sleeping bag with a built-in pad sleeve also keeps babies from rolling off in one direction. Is a double sleeping pad worth it for camping with a baby? If you plan to co-sleep with your baby in the tent, yes a double pad eliminates the cold gap between two separate pads and gives you enough room to comfortably share without squishing each other. The REI Camp Dreamer Double is the best quality option; the KingCamp is a budget alternative for warm-weather camping only. --- Image credit: Morrison sleeping bags – Read my review of [their sleeping bag here](https://momgoescamping.com/morrison-baby-sleeping-bag/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** babies, sleeping pads --- ### [13 Weird American Insects that You'll Find Strangely Beautiful](https://momgoescamping.com/strangely-beautiful-insects/) **Published:** March 22, 2017 **Author:** Diane **Content:** My friends all know that I love insects.  Even my daughter loves insects and has no problem picking up insects when we are hiking, camping, or just walking around the city. Read more about camping around insects below: - [Camping Activities to Entertain Kids](https://momgoescamping.com/activities-entertain-kids-camping/) - [How to Remove a Tick Without Tweezers](https://momgoescamping.com/remove-tick-without-tweezers/) - [How to Remove a Leech](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-remove-leech/) The truth is that insects are greatly underappreciated.  Insects are… - **Important Pollinators:** Many plants wouldn’t be able to pollinate and we wouldn’t have many of the produce we rely on. - **Decomposers:** Many insects help break down of waste such as dead animals or plants. Without decomposer insects, it would be a very messy world! - **A Major Part of the Food Chain:** Without insects, what would birds, amphibians, and reptiles eat? And, without those animals, what would larger predators eat? But what about the beauty of insects?  I truly believe that fear of insects is not ingrained, but something taught by society.    Take my daughter for example.  She grew up with me saying that insects are “cute” instead of “disgusting.”  She never absorbed the societal message that insects are something that should be stomped out of existence. All insects are fascinating in their own way.  From ants who communicate with pheromones and live in highly-organized colonies to bees that dance to communicate to cicadas with their 17 year life cycle… Start looking closely and you too will see how amazing insects are.  For starters, check out these incredibly strange, beautiful insects that can be found in the USA. ## Slug Moth Caterpillar ![slug moth caterpillar](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/1-slug-moth-caterpillar.jpg "1 slug moth caterpillar - Mom Goes Camping") **Why It’s Beautiful:** These caterpillars which are part of the Limacodidae moth family are beautiful – just don’t touch them.  They have venom in their spikes and the sting leaves a painful itch. ## Red Saddlebag Dragonfly ![red saddlebag dragonfly](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/2-red-saddlebag-dragonfly.jpg "2 red saddlebag dragonfly - Mom Goes Camping") **Why It’s Beautiful:** Dragonflies were the first winged insects to evolve.  So, looking at them is like looking 300 million years into history. The translucent wings on the red saddlebag make it particularly beautiful. ## Pandorus Sphinx Moth Caterpillar ![pandorus sphinx moth caterpillar](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/3-pandorus-sphinx-moth-caterpillar.jpg "3 pandorus sphinx moth caterpillar - Mom Goes Camping") **Why It’s Beautiful:** Because its alien shape and eyespots are fascinating. ## Oak Treehopper ![4 oak treehopper 1](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/4-oak-treehopper-1.jpg "4 oak treehopper 1 - Mom Goes Camping") **Why It’s Beautiful:** These insects come in many different bright colors and some of them have horns. ## Orange Assassin Bug ![orange assassin bug](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/5-assassin-bug.jpg "5 assassin bug - Mom Goes Camping") **Why It’s Beautiful:** This brightly-colored insect uses its long, curved proboscis to kill other insects. ## Carpet Beetle ![carpet beetle](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/6-carpet-beetle.jpg "6 carpet beetle - Mom Goes Camping") **Why It’s Beautiful:** Carpet beetles have colorings much like a 1970’s shag rug.  While you wouldn’t want them in your home (they are destructive), you can appreciate the strange plates on their bodies which give them their color patterns. ## Hummingbird Moth ![hummingbird moth](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/7-hummingbird-moth-1.jpg "7 hummingbird moth 1 - Mom Goes Camping") **Why It’s Beautiful:** The first time I saw this moth, I thought it was a hummingbird (and was subsequently confused what a hummingbird was doing in the city).  They get their names because they, like hummingbirds, can hover mid-air as they suck the nectar out of flowers with their super-long tongues.                                         **Taking the kids camping for the first time?** My “Your Family’s First Camping Trip” bundle has the complete guide, printable packing checklist, and three done-for-you itineraries — everything from booking the site to the drive home. **[                                                                   Get the bundle →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/1stcampingtrip)** ## Florida Predatory Stink Bug ![florida predatory stink bug](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/8-Florida-Predatory-Stink-Bug-Euthyrhynchus-floridanus.jpg "8 Florida Predatory Stink Bug - Euthyrhynchus floridanus - Mom Goes Camping") **Why It’s Beautiful:** The shimmering color patterns on these insects are gorgeous.  They are also very useful insects as they eat insects which damage crops. ## Hickory Horned Devil ![hickory horned devil](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/9-hickory-horned-devil-1.jpg "9 hickory horned devil - Mom Goes Camping") ![regal moth](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/9-regal-moth.jpg "9 regal moth - Mom Goes Camping") **Why It’s Beautiful:** As a caterpillar, the hickory horned devil tricks animals into thinking it is dangerous with its bright colors and long “horns.”  The giant caterpillar (which can be as big as a hot dog) is actually harmless.  It metamorphoses into the regal moth – the largest moth north of Mexico. ## Saddleback Moth Caterpillar ![saddleback moth caterpillar](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/10-saddleback-moth-1-1024x640.jpg "10 saddleback moth 1 - Mom Goes Camping") **Why It’s Beautiful:** The contrasting colors, bright eye spot, and long spikes on this caterpillar make it a feast for the eyes.  Just don’t touch because those spikes do cause a sting! ## Thorn Bug ![thorn bug](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/11-thorn-bug-1.jpg "11 thorn bug 1 - Mom Goes Camping") **Why It’s Beautiful:** Closely related to the Oak Treehopper, this insect also has beautiful colors.  When on a plant stalk, it looks like a thorn. ## Eastern Lubber Grasshopper ![eastern lubber grasshopper](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/12-florida-grasshopper.jpg "12 florida grasshopper - Mom Goes Camping") **Why It’s Beautiful:** This is a distinctive species of grasshopper found throughout the Southeastern parts of the USA.  The colorings help you see the many body armor plates of the grasshopper and realize how amazing their construction is. ## Glasswinged Butterfly ![glasswinged butterfly](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/13-glasswinged-butterfly.jpg "13 glasswinged butterfly - Mom Goes Camping") We all agree that butterflies are beautiful, so I decided to choose a very distinct species for this list.  Transparency is rare in butterflies as most use their colors and markings to ward off predators.  The glass winged butterfly instead uses its transparency to hide from them. ## Beautiful Insects FAQ: #### Why are some insects so brightly colored? Often it’s a warning. Many vividly colored insects use aposematism, bright colors that signal to predators “I’m dangerous, don’t eat me.” The slug moth and saddleback caterpillars on this list are good examples: their striking looks double as a warning about the painful sting in their spikes. Bright colors can also help insects attract mates or, surprisingly, camouflage them against colorful flowers and tropical plants. #### Are colorful insects poisonous or dangerous? Sometimes, but not always. Bright coloring is a clue worth respecting — the saddleback and slug moth caterpillars really can sting. But plenty of beautiful insects, like the glasswinged butterfly and hummingbird moth, are completely harmless. The safest rule outdoors is to look, photograph, and not touch unless you know what you’re looking at. #### Where can you find these insects in the USA? Most on this list live across North America, with several concentrated in the warmer Southeastern states, the eastern lubber grasshopper and Florida predatory stink bug are both Southern species. You don’t need to go deep into the wilderness to find them. Keep an eye on tree trunks, leaves, and flowers on your next hike or even a walk around the neighborhood. #### Is it safe to touch a caterpillar? Not always. Fuzzy or spiky caterpillars in particular can have venomous spines, the saddleback and slug moth caterpillar on this list are both examples where the sting is genuinely painful. Smooth-skinned caterpillars are generally harmless. The safest habit is to admire them and photograph them rather than picking them up, unless you’re confident in the species. #### How can I get my kids interested in insects? Start by reframing insects as fascinating rather than disgusting, the language you use shapes how kids see them. Give kids a magnifying glass and a bug jar and let them observe rather than catch. Books with photos of beautiful insects like these go a long way. Once kids see how incredible insects actually look up close, the “gross” reaction tends to disappear on its own. \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ Image credits: “[Living, Isa textula (Poisonous), Hebron](https://www.flickr.com/photos/107963674@N07/15082590767/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Macroscopic Solutions](https://www.flickr.com/people/107963674@N07/)“[Hickory Horned Devil](https://www.flickr.com/photos/bionicteaching/3894344573/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [bionicteaching](https://www.flickr.com/people/bionicteaching/)“[Florida Predatory Stink Bug – Euthyrhync](https://www.flickr.com/photos/52450054@N04/15340581270/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [judygva (back in town and trying to catch up)](https://www.flickr.com/people/52450054@N04/)“[Greta oto – 365 / 021](https://www.flickr.com/photos/traveller_40/6737050895/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Traveller\_40](https://www.flickr.com/people/traveller_40/)“[Florida Grasshopper](https://www.flickr.com/photos/mztery/1352022079/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [mztery](https://www.flickr.com/people/mztery/)“[Insecto Espina / Thorn Bug / Umbonia cra](https://www.flickr.com/photos/cdesoto/13574657204/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Carlos De Soto Molinari](https://www.flickr.com/people/cdesoto/)“[The Assassin Bug….Trick or treat](https://www.flickr.com/photos/pachytime/4019665875/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [graftedno1](https://www.flickr.com/people/pachytime/)“[Pandorus Sphinx Moth caterpillar (Eumorp](https://www.flickr.com/photos/59003943@N00/6137423755/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [aarongunnar](https://www.flickr.com/people/59003943@N00/)“[Hummingbird Moth](https://www.flickr.com/photos/larry1732/14663033514/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Larry1732](https://www.flickr.com/people/larry1732/)“[Saddleback Caterpillar – Oruga Ensillad](https://www.flickr.com/photos/andresrodriguezandrades/29270986421/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Andres Rodriguez FOTOGRAFÍA](https://www.flickr.com/people/andresrodriguezandrades/)“[Anthrenus verbasci (Linné, 1767)](https://www.flickr.com/photos/coleoptera-us/27853635822/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [urjsa](https://www.flickr.com/people/coleoptera-us/)“[Red Saddlebags – Tramea onusta ♂](https://www.flickr.com/photos/cletuslee/7723312928/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Cletus Lee](https://www.flickr.com/people/cletuslee/)“[Platycostis vittata (Oak Treehopper)](https://www.flickr.com/photos/matt_cicanese_photography/8577969459/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Boy of the Forest](https://www.flickr.com/people/matt_cicanese_photography/)“[Regal Moth](https://www.flickr.com/photos/113674454@N02/11991286086/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [nessiegrace](https://www.flickr.com/people/113674454@N02/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking **Tags:** insects --- ### [Best Large Family Camping Tents (9, 10, 12 Person) 2026](https://momgoescamping.com/best-large-family-tents/) **Published:** December 13, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Camping can be a great family bonding experience, but that doesn’t mean you all need to be sleeping on top of each other and crammed together in the tent.  And, speaking from experience, I can tell you it’s hard to be in a good mood when you were woken ten times during the night with kicks to the head! In this sense, having a large family tent can improve the camping experience. Read more about tent sizes below: - [How Big of a Family Tent Do You Need?](https://momgoescamping.com/how-big-family-tent/) - [Types of Camping Tents with Photos](https://momgoescamping.com/types-camping-tents-with-photos/) There surprisingly aren’t too many good options when it comes to large family tents, especially ones that can withstand rain and bad weather.  Here are the best large family camping tents (9 person or larger).  I haven’t tried all of them myself, but scoured reviews and got recommendations from other outdoorsy families.  Hope it helps! ## Quick Picks - **Best overall: [Core 12P Instant Tent](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DRQH7RQ/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07DRQH7RQ&linkId=9e229c9d23f2be90994f3f6b30c937d7)** - **Runner up: [Eureka! Copper Canyon LX 12P](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B083T6WJKK/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B083T6WJKK&linkId=e8424cac95cd4b825dc36eb55e6f0e24)** - **Budget pick: [UNP 10P tent](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08NWR54PC/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08NWR54PC&linkId=2cde8e6722602465d19cde390622e37b)** - **Bad weather pick: [Coleman Weathermaster 10P](https://amzn.to/3TKMfGc)** ## Comparison Table Click the arrows to sort the table by type, size, rooms, etc. \[table id=52 /\] ## Best Large Tents for Family Camping ### Core Instant Cabin 12P **Best for:** A massive three-room tent that can handle bad weather [![core 12 instant family cabin tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/core-12-instant-tent.jpg "core 12 instant tent - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/core-12-instant-tent.jpg) #### Features - **Type:** Cabin - **Rooms:** 3 with removable divider - **Footprint size:** 18×10 feet - **Max height:** 80 inches - **Weight:** 52lbs - [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DRQH7RQ/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07DRQH7RQ&linkId=9e229c9d23f2be90994f3f6b30c937d7) #### Review Even though this tent is very affordable, it is surprisingly well-made and has a great design.   For an instant tent, it is pretty sturdy and handles bad weather very well.  It also has built-in ventilation so you don’t end up with condensation problems [in cold weather](https://thepreppingguide.com/cold-weather-tents/). I love the design of this tent.  The entrance doors are in the middle.  You enter to a large room which can be used for hanging out or storage.  There are room dividers on each side, giving you two separate sleeping spaces.  The room dividers zip so are easy to open/close.  You don’t have to unhook them to get in as is the case with some cheap family tents.  A queen size air bed fits in each section of the tent, but with little room around the sides. The only real downside of this tent is that it is very heavy.  There is also a lot of fabric, so packing it up can be a challenge.  It does withstand bad weather well but you may need to reseal the seams eventually. **Pros** - Three rooms - Great ventilation - Handles bad weather well - Affordable - Instant setup **Cons** - Very heavy - Annoying to pack up [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DRQH7RQ/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07DRQH7RQ&linkId=9e229c9d23f2be90994f3f6b30c937d7) ---                                             **Taking the kids camping for the first time?** My “Your Family’s First Camping Trip” bundle has the complete guide, printable packing checklist, and three done-for-you itineraries — everything from booking the site to the drive home. **[                                                                         Get the bundle →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/1stcampingtrip)** ### Eureka! Copper Canyon LX 12P **Best for:** High-quality tent and two doors make the design very functional [![eureka copper canyon LX family camping tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/eureka-copper-canyon-family-camping-tent.jpg "eureka copper canyon family camping tent - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/eureka-copper-canyon-family-camping-tent.jpg) #### Features - **Type:** Cabin - **Rooms:** 2 - **Footprint size:** 14×12 feet - **Max height:** 84inches - **Weight:** 36.8lbs - [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B083T6WJKK/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B083T6WJKK&linkId=e8424cac95cd4b825dc36eb55e6f0e24) #### Review The brand Eureka! makes a lot of great-quality camping tents. The Copper Canyon 12P tent is one of their largest and has two rooms, each with their own door. The extra door is a game-changer: it allows you to enter/exit the tent without bothering people in the other room. This is great for privacy, such as if you have family members sleeping in separate rooms, or if you want to use one room for hanging out. You can remove the divider to create one large space. At 14×12 feet, the Copper Canyon is a large tent.  It is not nearly as big as the Core 12P tent above, but the smaller footprint makes it easier to pitch. It’s also lightweight for its size.  The peak height is 84″, so it’s a good option for tall people and you can easily walk around inside the tent.   There are massive windows so you get lots of light and ventilation. This isn’t an instant tent but setup is pretty simple.  One person can even set it up alone, though two people will make the job easier.  It is freestanding though you will still want to stake it out completely.  The tent does pretty well in bad weather and windows don’t leak.  There aren’t any vents so condensation will occur in very cold weather.  I’d also recommend getting a groundsheet to use with the tent since the floor material is fairly thin. **Pros** - 84 inches of headroom - Lots of light and air with windows open - Easy setup - Two rooms, each with their own door - Large windows **Cons** - Needs groundsheet in rain - Pricier tent - Condensation in cold weather [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B083T6WJKK/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B083T6WJKK&linkId=e8424cac95cd4b825dc36eb55e6f0e24) --- ### Core Instant Cabin Tent 9P **Best for:** Large shared sleeping space + separate hangout room [![core 9 instant cabin family tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/core-9-instant-cabin-family-tent.jpg "core 9 instant cabin family tent - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/core-9-instant-cabin-family-tent.jpg) #### Features - **Type:** Cabin - **Rooms:** 2 with removable divider - **Footprint size:** 14×9 feet - **Max height:** 78 inches - **Weight:** 30.5lbs - [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VFH1RQS/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00VFH1RQS&linkId=cb416fcd4485a17496b7a8adc15cdfc0) #### Review This 9P cabin tent by Core is 14′ long and 9′ wide. You can hang a divider in the middle to create two separate rooms. Unlike with most multi-room tents, the divide has a zipper going down the middle. That means you can just unzip it  instead of having to completely unhook the divider to get in/out. You can use each of the rooms for sleeping.  However, the back room doesn’t have its own door (which is odd since the front room has TWO doors. Why didn’t they move one of the doors to the back?). Because of this, the front room functions best as a hangout room. There are mesh panels on all of the walls, which makes it a great space for hiding from mosquitoes during the evening. When the windows are all open, you get lots of ventilation and light. Annoyingly, the windows don’t have tie-ups so the flaps just hang there. Note that there is really great ventilation on this tent, including vents on the bottom. It also holds up in thunderstorms well. That makes it one of the best large family tents for camping in bad weather. **Pros** - Good ventilation - Handles bad weather well - Instant setup - Large front doors - Lots of light and air in front room **Cons** - Windows don’t have tie-ups - Too small for large family - Both doors go to the same room [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VFH1RQS/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00VFH1RQS&linkId=cb416fcd4485a17496b7a8adc15cdfc0) --- ### Coleman Instant Dark Room 10P **Best for:** Camping in hot, sunny weather ![Coleman Instant Dark Room Large Family tent 10P](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/coleman-instant-cabin-dark-tent-e1639392013163.jpg "coleman instant cabin dark tent - Mom Goes Camping") #### Features - **Type:** Cabin - **Rooms:** 2 with removable divider - **Footprint size:** 14×10 feet - **Max height:** 79 inches - **Weight:** 35.5lbs - [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0787D6SD2/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B0787D6SD2&linkId=06f451f4400652f22b5831b9b94cfabc) #### Review The Coleman Dark Room 10P is a large family tent with a lot of nice features.  It’s an instant tent so is very easy to set up.  It also has two rooms. Each room has its own door, so you can actually get in/out of each room without bothering your family members in the other room.  One of the doors is hinged. I love that the room divider zips down the middle so you can easily open it up. This tent was designed to be used in hot, sunny weather.  The Dark Room feature means it blocks sunlight so you can sleep in (also useful for getting your little kids to nap during the day).  Unlike other dark tents, this one also blocks heat so it doesn’t get insanely hot inside. The downside is that the tent isn’t great in bad weather.  There are some leakage issues through the windows and some users said the door zippers tend to snag. **Pros** - Two rooms - Each room has its own door - Divider zips down middle - Instant tent **Cons** - Not great in heavy rains - Door zippers snag [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0787D6SD2/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B0787D6SD2&linkId=06f451f4400652f22b5831b9b94cfabc) --- ### Coleman Skylodge (10P and 12P) **Best for:** Massive windows and quality construction [![coleman skylodge family camping cabin tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/coleman-skylodge-family-camping-cabin-tent.jpg "coleman skylodge family camping cabin tent - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/coleman-skylodge-family-camping-cabin-tent.jpg) [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/coleman-skylodge-10-large-family-camping-tent.jpg "coleman skylodge 10 large family camping tent - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/coleman-skylodge-10-large-family-camping-tent.jpg) #### Features - **Type:** Cabin - **Rooms:** 2 with removable divider - **Footprint size:** 14×10 feet (15×11 for 12P) - **Max height:** 79 inches (84″ for 12P) - **Weight:** 40.5lbs (52.7lbs for 12P) - [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08KGRTZGT/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08KGRTZGT&linkId=eddee9e4101931da2719d8940cf24bf5) #### Review The standout feature of the Coleman Skylodge is the massive windows.  The ones in the front room are as big as the entire wall.  When all are unzipped, you feel like you are outside.  This is really great for when you need to hide from mosquitoes in the evening. The tent comes in two sizes: 10P (14×10 feet) and 12P (15×11 feet).  Both sizes will fit 4 queen size beds, though you won’t have any extra room around the beds to walk around in the 10P version.  Don’t count on actually using both rooms for sleeping though.  There is only one door and the front room is better utilized as a hangout room or for storage.  It’s really too bad they didn’t put another door in the back. As for weather resistance, the tent does handle rain pretty well.  The bathtub floor is high and thick. Thicker material means the tent is very heavy though and it’s annoying to pack up.  It isn’t great in windy weather though and is really only meant for summer camping because there isn’t much ventilation when the windows are all rolled up. **Pros** - Massive windows - Good ventilation - Color-coded poles for easy setup **Cons** - Heavy - Only one door - Doesn’t handle wind well - Condensation in cold weather [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08KGRTZGT/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08KGRTZGT&linkId=eddee9e4101931da2719d8940cf24bf5) --- ### UNP 10P Tent **Best for:** Affordable two-room family tent, but no hangout space ![UNP 10P large family tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/unp-10p-tent.jpg "unp 10p tent - Mom Goes Camping") #### Features - **Type:** Modified dome - **Rooms:** 2 with removable divider - **Footprint size:** 18×9 feet - **Max height:** 78 inches - **Weight:** 23.1lbs - [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08NWR54PC/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08NWR54PC&linkId=2cde8e6722602465d19cde390622e37b) #### Review Here is another modified dome family tent.  There is a divider in the middle to create two rooms.  The front door is divided into two parts, so you can get in/out of the tent without bothering people in the other room.  However, the room divider doesn’t zip down, so you can’t move between two rooms easily when the divider is up. A full air mattress will fit on each side of the tent.  Or, if you remove the divider, you could get three air mattresses in.   You wouldn’t have much room left for storage or moving around the beds though, so this is better for smaller families who want two rooms.  Also note that the hinge going down the middle of the doors, so you get two small doors instead of one big one.  This makes it annoying to get mattresses inside. The fly on the tent and dome shape means it handles rain better than most cabin tents.  However, the material is thin and cheap.  Expect some leaking during heavy thunderstorms and you’ll probably want a groundsheet to use with the tent during bad weather.  There aren’t many windows so ventilation is poor. **Pros** - Very cheap - Lightweight - Handles bad weather okay - Two usable sleeping spaces **Cons** - Hard to fit large mattresses through doors - Only one entrance - No zipper on room divider - Not many windows or ventilation [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08NWR54PC/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08NWR54PC&linkId=2cde8e6722602465d19cde390622e37b) --- ### Coleman Weathermaster 10P Tent **Best for:** Camping in windy or colder temperatures [![coleman weathermaster 10p tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/weathermaster.jpg "weathermaster - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/weathermaster.jpg) #### Features - **Type:** Tunnel - **Rooms:** 2 - **Footprint size:** 17×9′ - **Max height:** 80 inches - **Weight:** 30lbs - **[Get It Here](https://amzn.to/3TKMfGc)** #### Review The Coleman Weathermaster is similar to the UNP tunnel tent above. However, there are some key differences that make the Coleman better suited for spring, fall and colder-weather camping.  The main one is that it doesn’t have large windows or a double door.  While this doesn’t mean it doesn’t get as much ventilation in summer, it is better at trapping heat in cold temps and keeping rain out.  Considering the price, the tent is well-made and does live up to its “Weathermaster” name. The windows on the side are slanted, so you can leave them open during light rains. Another nice feature of the Weathermaster is that it has a hinged door. This feature comes in handy when you have lots of people entering/exiting the tent constantly.  There’s a room divider you can hang in the middle, but the doorway only goes into one room.  Three queen sized mattresses will fit, but without much room for anything else. **Pros** - Affordable - Side windows can be left open in rain - Hinged door - Lightweight - Durable **Cons** - Poor ventilation - Only one door - No vestibule or awning  **[Get It Here](https://amzn.to/3TKMfGc)** --- ### Campros Tunnel 12P Tent **Best for:** Budget tent with multiple rooms and configurations ![campros 9 person large family camping tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/campros-9-person-large-family-camping-tent.jpg "campros 9 person large family camping tent - Mom Goes Camping") #### Features - **Type:** Tunnel - **Rooms:** 2 or 3 - **Footprint size:** 20×9′ - **Max height:** 72 inches - **Weight:** 24.3lbs - **[Get It Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08ZS9Q2K6/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08ZS9Q2K6&linkId=f4086cd4ab3727a014224a4ee99d3eb2)** #### Review The Campros 12P is a tunnel tent with a massive 20 foot by 9 foot footprint.  It comes with two room dividers. You can hang them at the sides of the tent to create three rooms. However, with this setup, the side rooms are very cramped. You also have to unhook the dividers to get in/out of the side rooms.  For that reason, I think it’s better to just hang one divider in the  middle of the tent.  This gives you two rooms, each with enough space for sleeping and gear and with its own door.  Or, if you are sleeping on pads, you can all sleep in one room and use the other room for hanging out. Campros tents are cheap and definitely not the best quality.  They do hold up well enough in rain, but you’ll need to make sure you’ve staked it out properly. A plus of having cheap, thin material is that the tent isn’t heavy like most large family tents are.  As expected from such a cheap tent, you don’t get much in terms of extra features. There are just a few storage pockets inside and nothing else. **Pros** - Affordable - Lightweight - Good ventilation **Cons** - Needs to be stake down very well - Low headroom - Three-room setup creates cramped, inaccessible bedrooms  **[Get It Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08ZS9Q2K6/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08ZS9Q2K6&linkId=f4086cd4ab3727a014224a4ee99d3eb2)** --- ## Advice for Buying a Large Family Tent ### 1. A Large Tent Never Fits As Many As Promised Tent sizes are listed based on people in sleeping bags.  If you use air mattresses or cots for camping, the tent will fit fewer people than listed.   Depending on the layout, some of the space might be completely useless for sleeping. ### 2. Two small tents may be better than one large tent Large family tents can be very difficult to pitch.  The footprints are so massive that it’s sometimes impossible to find a flat, rock-free site.  This usually isn’t a problem when camping at campgrounds.  But if you want to do any wild camping, it may make more sense to bring two small tents instead of one large one. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/massive-tent.jpg "massive tent - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/massive-tent.jpg)Look how much space this tent takes up The guylines become major tripping hazards too ### 3. Draw the tent layout It really helps to make a little drawing of the tent layout.  This will give you a better idea of how you’ll be able to use the tent. For example, the picture below shows a tent with a 14×9 foot layout and a room divider down the middle. With a queen and twin air mattress in one room, there is absolutely no room around the beds. ![example tent floor layout](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/tent-floor-layout.jpg "tent floor layout - Mom Goes Camping") ### 4. Think how you want to use each room in the tent Most large family tents have multiple rooms.  However, these rooms often aren’t practical for sleeping. For example, look at the tent layout picture above.  If you were to put a queen mattress in the front room, it might block the door. One person might have to sleep against a wall and crawl over the other person to get out. Or **people in a back room might have to crawl over campers in a front room to get out!** So, even though that tent is large, the front room only makes sense as a storage/hangout room. **Also read: [Best Three-Room Tents](https://momgoescamping.com/best-three-room-tents/)** ### **5. Choose a tent with multiple doors**  Large tents with multiple doors are much more versatile.  **Ideally, each sleeping room should have its own door so campers don’t disturb each other when getting in/out of the tent.** ### 6. Ventilation is important Condensation can be a major problem with large family tents.  Unlike with smaller tents, large tents are usually single-wall and don’t have full flies. You have to zip them up completely when it rains. With all windows closed up, the tent will trap heat from your bodies. On cold nights, the inside temperature gets much higher than the outside temperature.  Condensation will form on the tent and may drip on your head. Good tents solve this by creating air vents in the tent. Yes, these vents may create a draft but they are actually necessary to keep you dry. Read more about tent condensation in this post about [How much warmer is it inside a tent?](https://momgoescamping.com/is-it-warmer-inside-a-tent/) [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/ventilatioin-on-large-tents.jpg "ventilatioin on large tents - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/ventilatioin-on-large-tents.jpg)Tents get HOT inside Mesh ventilation keeps them comfortable ### 7. Will It Leak? Large family tents usually perform poorly in bad weather.  They have very small flies which don’t cover windows completely.  With large cabin tents, wind will beat against the vertical walls instead of flowing around them like why would with a dome tent. Keep this in mind when people complain about their large tent leaking.  It’s almost inevitable down the line. To fix this, make sure you pack [tent seam sealer](https://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=7e5ee23991d645d7fc5582582ad26284&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=sporting&keywords=tent%20seam%20sealer) in case of leaks. ## Large Family Tent FAQ: #### How many people does a 10-person tent actually sleep? Fewer than you’d think. Tent capacity ratings assume sleeping bags packed tightly side by side no air mattresses, no gear inside. If your family uses air mattresses or cots, a 10-person rated tent might realistically sleep 6 to 7 comfortably, or fewer if you need space to walk around. Always check the actual floor dimensions and draw out your sleeping layout before buying. #### Is one large family tent better than two smaller tents? For campground camping, one large tent is usually more convenient. For any kind of backcountry or dispersed camping, two smaller tents are often the smarter choice large tent footprints are massive and finding a flat, rock-free site big enough is surprisingly difficult. Two smaller tents also give you a backup if one gets damaged. #### What’s the difference between a cabin tent and a tunnel tent for families? Cabin tents have near-vertical walls that maximize interior space and headroom better for standing up and moving around. Tunnel tents have curved walls that handle wind and rain better but feel more cramped inside. For campground car camping with kids, cabin tents win on livability. For exposed sites or bad weather camping, tunnel tents are more reliable. #### Do large family tents need a footprint? Most large cabin tents have thinner floors than smaller backpacking tents a footprint or groundsheet is worth using to protect the floor from punctures and moisture seeping through. It also makes the tent last longer. Cut the footprint slightly smaller than the tent floor so rainwater doesn’t pool between the footprint and the tent. --- ###### image credits: “[ColemanDaGama4Tent-17102801](https://www.flickr.com/photos/leelive/37991358961/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Lee Live: Photographer (Personal)](https://www.flickr.com/people/leelive/) “[DSCN0249](https://www.flickr.com/photos/lennyflank/4743657304/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [Lenny Flank](https://www.flickr.com/people/lennyflank/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** tents --- ### [Best Kids Camping Cots, As Chosen By an Outdoorsy Mom](https://momgoescamping.com/kids-camping-cots/) **Published:** February 19, 2024 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Let’s be clear: your kids probably *don’t* need a cot for camping.  For years,  my kids just slept on a cheap $15 foam pad and never once complained about being uncomfortable (they fall asleep so quickly when outdoors all day long that comfort isn’t really an issue; adults are another story though!). Read more about sleeping with a baby below: - [How to Sleep in a Tent with a Baby](https://momgoescamping.com/sleep-tent-with-baby/) - [Can You Use a Blanket Instead of a Sleeping Bag?](https://momgoescamping.com/use-a-blanket-instead-of-sleeping-bag-camping/) But there are some situations where you might want to get your kids a camping cot. ## Why You Might Want a Camping Cot for Your Kids - **Kids Keep Rolling Off their Pad:** Not only do they end up on the cold ground, but kick you in the face! Also read [how to keep kids on their pads](https://momgoescamping.com/kids-rolling-off-sleeping-pads-camping/). - **Hot Weather:** Air circulates underneath a cot, so it’s more comfortable than a sweaty mattress or pad when camping in hot temperatures. - **You are sleeping on a cot:** It can feel crappy to have a comfy cot while your kids are on the ground. It’s also nice if everyone is on the same height level when sleeping. - **Storage Space:** Cots have storage space underneath them, which is particularly useful when glamping or long-term camping. - **Can Use It At Home or When Traveling:** If you need a bed for sleepovers, then it might make sense to get a cot instead of a pad. ## Quick Picks - **Best Overall: [Regalo My Pals Cot ](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B087ZL1PYS/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B087ZL1PYS&linkId=99d9ca8567e1cd7e585f41266447f7ff)** - **Best for Very Little Kids: [Baby Delight Go with Me Cot](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B081SJC9XB/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B081SJC9XB&linkId=dc6bc25a43e65d13b0254fd3e0f65d35)** - **Sturdiest: [Redcamp Extra Long Kids Cot](https://amzn.to/3UN7yta)** - **Splurge Pick: [Disc-O Kid-O Bunk Bed Cots](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fb%2Fdisc-o-bed%2Fc%2Fcots%3Fpagesize%3D90)** (also on [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3o5F0wv) and [Campsaver](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=358fd954-c6b8-44a1-9ca9-aaad445d2dfb&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.campsaver.com%2Fs%2Fdisc--o-bed)) ## Comparison Table \[table id=96 /\] ## Choosing the Right Cot ### What Length Cot? A camping cot should be *at least* 6 inches longer than the user’s height.  This allows room for a small pillow (you don’t sleep with your head at the very top of the pillow, do you?).  The extra length also means your feet don’t rest on the bottom of the cot, which isn’t exactly comfortable. Starting at age four, kids grow an average of 2 inches per year.  So, you might want to add another 6-8 inches to the cot length to get more use out of it. **Also read: [Best Camping Beds for Toddlers](https://momgoescamping.com/toddler-camping-beds/)** ### Consider Using an Adult Cot Most kids camping cots are only 48″ long.  Factor in some extra room for the pillow and your kid will likely outgrow the cot by age 6.  For this reason, you may just want to get an adult-sized cot for your child. This way your child can still use the cot even as they grow. The downside is that putting several full-size cots in your tent is going to take up a LOT of room.  It will also take up lots of space in your vehicle. So, if you are limited for space, then a kids-sized cot might be the only option. **See these [best adult camping cots](https://momgoescamping.com/best-camping-cots/).** [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/giant-tent-for-camping-cots.jpg "giant tent for camping cots - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/giant-tent-for-camping-cots.jpg)Youll need a giant tent if you want to fit 3+ full sized cots inside ### Warning: Cot Legs Can Destroy Tent Floors Cots, especially ones designed for sleepovers and not camping, can have small, pointy legs. These can destroy a tent floor! You’ll need to put coasters, pieces of Styrofoam or plywood underneath the legs. ## Best Kids Camping Cots ### 1. [Regalo Toddler Cot My Pals](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B087ZL1PYS/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B087ZL1PYS&linkId=99d9ca8567e1cd7e585f41266447f7ff) **Verdict: Best Overall** [![regalo toddler cot for camping my pals](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/regalo-toddler-cot-for-camping-my-pals.jpg "regalo toddler cot for camping my pals - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/regalo-toddler-cot-for-camping-my-pals.jpg) The reason this cot gets the top pick is because it’s cheap and lightweight yet still sturdy enough to survive a lot of use. I love that the fitted sheet goes over the pillow, so the pillow actually stays in place. #### Features - **Open size:** 48 (L) x 24.5 (W) x 9 (H) - **Folded size:** 24 x 9 x 8 - **Weight Limit:** 75lbs - **Cot Weight:** 6.5lbs - **Fitted sheet** - **Removable pillow** - [**Buy Here** ](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B087ZL1PYS/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B087ZL1PYS&linkId=99d9ca8567e1cd7e585f41266447f7ff) --- ### 2. [Baby Delight Go with Me Bungalow Portable Cot](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B081SJC9XB/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B081SJC9XB&linkId=dc6bc25a43e65d13b0254fd3e0f65d35) #### Verdict: Best for Really Little Kids [![baby delight portable camping bed for toddlers](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/baby-delight-portable-camping-bed-for-toddlers.jpg "baby delight portable camping bed for toddlers - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/baby-delight-portable-camping-bed-for-toddlers.jpg) This camping cot has mesh side rails.  These are perfect if you worried about your little one falling off the cot.  However, the side rails can’t be removed, so two children won’t be able to sit on the cot together.  There is also a canopy which actually is removable, so the cot can be used for outdoor naps in sunny weather.  There’s a storage pocket but its where your child’s feet will be.  This isn’t a deal breaker but it would be better to have the pocket on the head side. The cot 50″ long, 26″ wide,  and 11″ off the ground.  The height with the rails is 16″ and it’s 41.5″ tall with the canopy. #### Features - **Open size:** 50 (L) x 26 (W) x 13 (H) - **Folded size:** 29x 9 x 7.5 - **Weight Limit:** 220lbs - **Cot Weight:** 11.6lbs - **Storage pocket** - **[Buy Here](https://amzn.to/49GzsLm)** --- ### 3. [Redcamp Extra Long Kids Cot](https://amzn.to/49GzsLm) **Verdict: Sturdiest while still being affordable** [![redcamp cot](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/redcamp-cot.jpg "redcamp cot - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/redcamp-cot.jpg) Most kids camping cots have six legs.  The Redcamp cot has four additional legs.  This makes the cot a lot sturdier.  It also adds extra support for the fabric so the cot doesn’t sag nearly as much.   Redcamp also uses Oxford fabric, which is a heck of a lot stronger than canvas.  At 600 denier, it’s thicker than the Oxford used on other cheap camping cots. The only downside is that the frame and material make the cot heavier and bulkier than other options, but it’s a good choice for older kids or when the cot needs to withstand a lot of abuse. #### Features - **Open size:** 53 (L) x 26 (W) x 12.6 (H) - **Folded size:** 28.4 x 12.6 x 12.6 - **Weight Limit:** 110lbs - **Cot Weight:** 14lbs - **Canopy** - **Storage pocket** - **[Buy Here](https://amzn.to/3UN7yta)** ---                                            **Taking the kids camping for the first time?** My “Your Family’s First Camping Trip” bundle has the complete guide, printable packing checklist, and three done-for-you itineraries — everything from booking the site to the drive home. **[                                                                        Get the bundle →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/1stcampingtrip)** ### 4. [Ever Advanced Cot with Canopy](https://amzn.to/3UN7yta) **Verdict: Good canopy cot for slightly older kids** [![EVER ADVANCED Portable Deluxe Toddler Sleeping Cot with Canopy, Foldable Kids Camping Cot Travel Bed, with Carry Bag, for Indoor & Outdoor,140lbs, Grey](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41xDct2is0L._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BPY5GSQF?tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) This cot is a good choice for older children for a few reasons.  Firstly, at 54″ long, it will fit older children.  The product description lists two weight limits: 110lbs and 140lbs.  It’s still  more than the 75lb weight limit of most cots! It’s also different from other cots in that it is made with a padded fabric.  The fabric does make it more comfortable, but it makes the cot bulkier and heavier.  The padding also means that the cot will take longer to dry if it gets wet, so not ideal if you’ve got a bed wetter.  There is a removable canopy which has UV protection. #### Features - **Open size:** 54 (L) x 27.5 (W) x 12.6 (H) - **Folded size:** 28.4 x 12.6 x 12.6 - **Weight Limit:** 110lbs - **Cot Weight:** 14lbs - **Canopy** - **Storage pocket** - **[Buy Here](https://amzn.to/3UN7yta)** --- ### 5. [Joovy Foocot](https://amzn.to/49G6wTE) **Verdict: Lightweight cot with a storage pocket** [![Joovy Foocot Travel Cot Featuring a Steel Frame and Tough Polyester Fabric, Storage Pocket, and Easily Folds into Included Travel Bag – Holds Kids Up to 48” Tall or 75 Lbs (Orange)](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41CZMcoCxJL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015ZL8Q8Q?tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) This cot is basically the same as the Regalo cot in terms of size, weight, and sturdiness.  The difference is that the Joovy Foocot doesn’t come with a fitted sheet or a pillow.  For this reason, the I recommend the Regalo.  However, the Joovy cot does have a storage pocket and may be cheaper or on sale. #### Features - **Open size:** 48 (L) x 25 (W) x 9.5 (H) - **Folded size:** 24.5 x 8 x 6 - **Weight Limit:** 75lbs - **Cot Weight:** 6.5lbs - **Storage pocket** - **Available in several colors** - [**Buy Here** ](https://amzn.to/49G6wTE) --- ### 6. Disc-O Kid-O Bunk Bed Cots **Verdict: Awesome solution for two kids but expensive** [![disco o bunk bed cots for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/disco-o-bunk-bed-cots.jpg "disco o bunk bed cots - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/disco-o-bunk-bed-cots.jpg) Disc-O Beds makes camping cots that can be used separately or stacked together to make a bunk bed.  Putting the cots together is surprisingly easy and they are definitely sturdy.  The kids cots hold up to 200lbs *each.*  The sturdy construction does mean that the cots are heavy.  The entire setup is 23lbs, but it comes in two carrying cases so is manageable. These are definitely not cheap.  If you go camping very often, then the investment may pay off — especially since the beds are 65″ long so your kids will get a lot of use out of them.  Note that there is a bottom and top rail on these bunks, so there’s no way someone can sleep on them with their legs hanging off.   It’s really best for kids under 5 feet tall. The brand also makes adult-sized bunk bed cots.  There’s an option to get a kids-size trundle bed which fits underneath the adult bunks. Again, not a cheap setup, but a good solution for families who camp a lot. #### Features - **Open size:** 65 (L) x 32.5 (W) - **Height off ground:** 9.5″ (bottom bunk); 28″ (top bunk) - **Folded size:** 34 x 16 x 9 - **Weight limit:** 75lbs - **Cot weight:** 6.5lbs - **Storage organizer** - **Available at** **[Amazon](https://amzn.to/3o5F0wv), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fb%2Fdisc-o-bed%2Fc%2Fcots%3Fpagesize%3D90), [Campsaver](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=358fd954-c6b8-44a1-9ca9-aaad445d2dfb&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.campsaver.com%2Fs%2Fdisc--o-bed)** **Read my [full review of Disc-O Bed Bunk Cots here](https://momgoescamping.com/disc-o-bed-camping-bunk-beds-review/)** ## Kids Camping Cot FAQ: #### What age do kids need a camping cot? There’s no set age kids can sleep comfortably on a cheap foam pad for years. A cot makes more sense if your child keeps rolling off their pad at night, if you’re camping in hot weather where airflow underneath helps, or if you want the under-cot storage space. Most parents find a cot more useful starting around age 4-5 when kids sleep more restlessly. #### Will a kids camping cot damage my tent floor? It can especially cots designed for indoor sleepovers rather than camping, which often have small, pointy legs. To protect your tent floor, put coasters, pieces of Styrofoam, or small squares of plywood under each leg. Look for cots with wide, flat feet designed for outdoor use. #### How long will a kids camping cot last before they outgrow it? Most kids cots are 48 inches long your child will outgrow them by around age 6 or 7 depending on their height. If you want more use out of the cot, go with an adult-sized cot from the start. The Disc-O Kid-O at 65 inches gives significantly more years of use than standard kids cots. #### Do you need a sleeping pad on top of a kids camping cot? In warm weather, no sleeping directly on the cot fabric is fine and the airflow underneath helps keep kids cool. In cold weather, yes — cots have no insulation and cold air circulates underneath, which can make kids cold from below even with a warm sleeping bag. A foam pad or inflatable pad on top solves this. --- ###### Resources: <https://etc.usf.edu/clipart/42500/42517/body_prop_42517.htm>, <https://www.magicfoundation.org/Is-My-Child-Growing/> ###### Image credits: “[Inside the tent](https://www.flickr.com/photos/45559299@N07/5682215192/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [CseaWillis](https://www.flickr.com/people/45559299@N07/), “[Camp set up](https://www.flickr.com/photos/fotofrivolity08/28098570792/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [elliemcc11](https://www.flickr.com/people/fotofrivolity08/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [Disc-O-Bed Camping Bunk Beds Review](https://momgoescamping.com/disc-o-bed-camping-bunk-beds-review/) **Published:** March 29, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Last summer, my family (two adults, a baby and a toddler) went on a 10-week camping trip.  I really didn’t want to sleep on the ground for this entire time.  I researched camping cots that can bunk and found the Disc-O-Bed.   Here’s what we thought of the camping bunk beds and whether they are worth it. ## Quick Specs: - **Cot Size/Sleeping Area:** 79″x28″ - **Outter dimensions:** 82”(L)x32.5”(W)x36”(H) - **Total Weight:** 60lbs - **Height of Bottom Bunk:** 11″ - **Height of Top Bunk:** 32″ - **Folded Size:** 33″x15″x5″ (per cot) - **Weight** **Limit:** 500lbs (per cot) - **Available at:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/4nTW4Au), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Ddisc-o-bed%26pagesize%3D90&ctc=callie) \*Note that we had the Large size Disc-O-Bed bunks.  They also make smaller sized [Kid-O bunks](https://amzn.to/4dy5GNV) and [XL bunks](https://amzn.to/4nRKPID) for adults. ## What We Loved about the [Disc-O Bunk Beds](https://amzn.to/4u3XQjX) ### The Extra Floor Space Is Great Since we were camping for so long (and with a toddler and baby), we realized that we wanted to have as much extra floor space as possible.  The Disc-O bunk beds were great for this. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/disc-o-camping-bunk-beds-extra-floor-space.jpg "disc o camping bunk beds extra floor space - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/disc-o-camping-bunk-beds-extra-floor-space.jpg)*Without the bunks we wouldnt have any floor space in our 6P tent*[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/disc-o-bed-in-couch-configuration.jpg "disc o bed in couch configuration - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/disc-o-bed-in-couch-configuration.jpg)*Theres also an option to put the bunks in couch position but we never played around with this* ### Storage Under the Bed I knew that having our stuff all over the tent while camping would make us go crazy. We bought a “kitchen cabinet” to use as a closet for storage.  The rest of our stuff went underneath the bottom bunk. I really liked the extra storage they gave us. Disc-O-Bed also has an option with side organizers, but we did not get them. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/disc-o-beds-with-lots-of-gear-on-them.jpg "disc o beds with lots of gear on them - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/disc-o-beds-with-lots-of-gear-on-them.jpg)*Lots of stuff is under the bottom bunk We also ended up using the top bunk as a diaper changing station* ### Not-Getting-Stepped-On Sleeping Zone Using bunk beds in the tent gave us a contained sleeping zone where we wouldn’t get stepped on.  It was also nice that they didn’t move around so we had a set sleeping area in the tent. ### Comfortable Overall, the Disc-O bunk beds were comfortable.  They don’t have any straps or bars in the middle like most camping cots. Note that there isn’t any actual padding on the cots. This also means that there isn’t any insulation underneath you.  In warm weather, you could sleep with your sleeping bags directly on the cots.  In cold weather though, you’ll need to put a pad on the cots. For comfort and warmth, we put Nemo Quasar 3D pads on top of the cots.  Instead of sleeping bags, we used quilts from Enlightened Equipment. ### Fairly Compact Considering that these are camping cots, the bunk beds are fairly compact.  They come in two bags which are 33 x 15 x 5 inches each. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/disc-o-camp-bunk-beds-in-car.jpg "disc o camp bunk beds in car - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/disc-o-camp-bunk-beds-in-car.jpg)*All of our camping gear packed in the car The Disc O bunks are in the green bags in the bottom right* ## What We Disliked about the Cots ### Expensive! The Disc-O-Bed bunks are expensive.  But there really isn’t anything similar on the market.  If you want camping cots that can bunk, this is the only option that I found.  (Check the prices at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/4vc0zc4) and [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Ddisc-o-bed%26pagesize%3D90&ctc=callie)). ### Heavy The cots are very heavy. The poles are steel, so their combined weight is over 60lbs.  While the setup is straightforward (my husband set them up while I did other setup), the weight makes it tough. Ideally, two people should set up the cots together – which isn’t always possible when camping with little kids. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/setting-up-disc-o-camping-bunk-beds.jpg "setting up disc o camping bunk beds - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/setting-up-disc-o-camping-bunk-beds.jpg)*My husband setting up the camp bunk beds with our toddler helping*                                      **Taking the kids camping for the first time?** My “Your Family’s First Camping Trip” bundle has the complete guide, printable packing checklist, and three done-for-you itineraries — everything from booking the site to the drive home. **[                                                                  Get the bundle →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/1stcampingtrip)** ### Not Much Headroom When in bunk bed position, the upper cot is 32 inches off the ground.  I’m guessing the bunks are made this way so they can fit in most tents.  It also makes it easier to get on the bunk without a stool. However, this does mean that the lower bunk doesn’t have much headroom.  I was breastfeeding a baby so this was a problem. I couldn’t sit up in the lower bunk nor could I turn over with the baby next to me.  This is why I ended up on the top bunk after the first night of camping. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/breastfeeding-on-disc-o-camp-bunk-bed.jpg "breastfeeding on disc o camp bunk bed - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/breastfeeding-on-disc-o-camp-bunk-bed.jpg)*Feeding our baby on the top bunk* ## Verdict Overall, we loved the Disc-O bunk beds and wouldn’t change anything about our sleep setup.  I would use these cots again on a 3+ night camping trip. However, because of how big and heavy they are, I would skip them on shorter trips. **You can get the camping bunk beds at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/4f5yr5H) and [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Ddisc-o-bed%26pagesize%3D90&ctc=callie)** ## Disc-O-Bed FAQ: How much weight can a Disc-O-Bed hold? Each cot holds up to 500 lbs, so the bunks easily handle adults not just kids. We had the Large size; Disc-O-Bed also makes smaller Kid-O bunks and XL bunks for bigger adults. **Do you need a sleeping pad on a Disc-O-Bed?** In warm weather, no you can put your sleeping bag directly on the cot. The cots have no padding though, which also means no insulation underneath you. In cold weather you’ll need a pad on top of the cot. We used Nemo Quasar 3D pads for both comfort and warmth. **Can the Disc-O-Bed be used as a couch?** Yes, the bunks convert into a couch configuration, and the two cots can also be separated and used as individual standalone cots. We kept ours in bunk position the whole trip for the floor space. #### How much weight can a Disc-O-Bed hold? Each cot holds up to 500 lbs, so both bunks easily handle adults not just kids. We had the Large size. Disc-O-Bed also makes smaller Kid-O bunks for children and XL bunks for larger adults. #### Do you need a sleeping pad on a Disc-O-Bed? In warm weather, no you can put your sleeping bag directly on the cot fabric. There’s no built-in padding or insulation underneath you, so in cold weather you’ll need a sleeping pad on top of the cot. We used Nemo Quasar 3D pads for both comfort and warmth. #### Can the Disc-O-Bed be used as a couch? Yes, the bunks convert into a couch configuration, and the two cots can also be separated and used as individual standalone cots. We kept ours in bunk position the whole 10-week trip to maximize floor space in the tent. #### Is the Disc-O-Bed worth the price? For trips of three or more nights where floor space in the tent matters, yes. For weekend trips where the weight and setup time aren’t worth it, no. At 60 lbs and $400+, this is a gear commitment but if you camp for weeks at a time with young kids like we did, the floor space and separate sleeping zones are genuinely valuable. Read more below about cots below: - [Best Camping Cots for Families](https://momgoescamping.com/best-camping-cots/) - [Best Kids Camping Cots](https://momgoescamping.com/kids-camping-cots/) - [How to Sleep in a Tent with a Baby](https://momgoescamping.com/sleep-tent-with-baby/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [Morrison Outdoors Sleeping Bags, Reviewed by an Outdoorsy Mom](https://momgoescamping.com/morrison-sleeping-bags-review/) **Published:** April 11, 2024 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I remember when Morrison Outdoors was still just a concept on Kickstarter. Back then, there weren’t any baby sleeping bags for camping.  So, when an outdoorsy couple wanted to take their baby Morrison camping, they had to make a sleeping bag for him.  They thought other parents might be interested in their sleeping bag.  They were right and the brand Morrison Outdoors was born. My younger daughter is the same age as Morrison, so I’ve had the privilege of watching the Morrison brand grow over the years. In addition to the original “Little Mo” sleeping bag, Morrison now has a toddler and bigger kid sleeping bag and has made several improvements to their original designs. I’m happy to say that the brand is still run and owned by the same cool couple that started it.  They donate a portion of profits to outdoor charities and have a trade-in program. If you are thinking of getting a Morrison sleeping bag for your child, here’s what you need to know about key features and pros/cons. **[Check Out Morrison Sleeping Bags Here](https://morrisonoutdoors.com/collections/sleeping-bags?aff=3) \*\*\*Use discount code Momgoescamping at checkout to get 10% off!\*\*\*** ## Morrison Sleeping Bag Sizes Morrison sleeping bags currently come in sizes for babies, toddlers and little kids.  They also have an adult sleeping bag with sleeves called the “Mega Mo” but I’m going to focus on the baby and kid sleeping bags here.Note the sleeping bag lengths are from the SHOULDERS downwards and NOT your child’s overall height. | **Bag** | **Age** | **Bag Length** | **Child Height** | |---|---|---|---| | Little Mo | 6-18 months | 31” (80cm) | 24-34” (61-86cm) | | Big Mo | 18-36 months | 38” (97cm) | 30-40” (74-101cm) | | Mighty Mo | 3-5 years old | 46” (116cm) | 36-50” (91-116cm) | [![Morrison sleeping bag for toddlers](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/morrison-sleeping-bag-outdoors.jpg "morrison sleeping bag outdoors - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/morrison-sleeping-bag-outdoors.jpg)Baby in the Little Mo sleeping bag[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/sleeping.jpg "sleeping - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/sleeping.jpg)My daughter at 5 years old in the Mighty Mo Of course she rolled off her pillow p ## How Warm Are Morrison Sleeping Bags? Morrison sleeping bags come in two temperature ratings: - **Synthetic filling:** 40°-60**°**F (4°-15°C) - **Down filling:** 20°-60**°**F (-6°-15°C) I have the synthetic version of the sleeping bags for my daughter. They definitely kept her warm in 40 degree temps.  We haven’t done much cold-weather camping, but she did use the synthetic bag one night when it dropped to below 40.  I just bundled her in an extra layer of jammies and she was fine. If you camp in very cold weather, then the down sleeping bag is the way to go.  It is also smaller and lighter weight than the synthetic bag, so better for backpacking in this sense.  However, don’t get the down bag unless you actually need it.  The bag is does its job well and your child won’t be comfortable in it in warmer temperatures! ![Morrison 20F baby sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/IMG_20181115_143401.jpg "IMG_20181115_143401 - Mom Goes Camping")*Im toasty warm even with snow on the ground* [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/morrison-mighty-mo-2.jpg "morrison mighty mo 2 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/morrison-mighty-mo-2.jpg) **[Check Out Morrison Sleeping Bags Here](https://morrisonoutdoors.com/collections/sleeping-bags?aff=3) \*\*\*Remember to use discount code Momgoescamping at checkout to get 10% off!\*\*\*** ## Key Features of Morrison Sleeping Bags ### Sleeves The key feature of Morrison sleeping bags is that they have sleeves. The sleeves mean your child can still use their arms while inside the sleeping bag, which means they are more likely to stay inside the bag (my older daughter would constantly wriggle out of her sleeping bag, causing all of the heat to escape in the process). [![Morrison Little Mo 40F baby sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/morrison-bags-min.jpg "morrison bags-min - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/morrison-bags-min.jpg) ### Fold Over Hand Cuffs There are cuffs on the sleeves of Morrison sleeping bags. You can fold them over to keep your child’s hands warm, or unfold them so you child can use their hands. Before, only the synthetic Morrison sleeping bags had this feature.  The down bags had closed cuffs, so your child couldn’t use their hands.  I’m happy to say that, as of April 2024, all new Morrison sleeping bags have the fold-over cuff feature.  If you are buying one of the discounted Morrison sleeping bags, pay attention to whether you are getting the new or old version of the cuffs! [![fold over cuffs on morrison sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/fold-over-cuffs-on-morrison-sleeping-bag.jpg "fold over cuffs on morrison sleeping bag - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/fold-over-cuffs-on-morrison-sleeping-bag.jpg)Fold over the cuffs to keep your childs hands warm[![baby in Morrison sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/oS436bNN.jpeg-1.jpg "baby in Morrison sleeping bag - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/oS436bNN.jpeg-1.jpg)The old Morrison down bags had closed cuffs ### Safe for Babies Another unique aspect of the design is that there isn’t a hood.  This is for safety because you wouldn’t want a baby to slide down inside the sleeping bag.  The collar is lined with soft fleece so it is comfortable around your child’s neck. There also aren’t any drawstrings or other safety hazards on the sleeping bags. Around the age of 5 years old, my daughter admittedly started to prefer a classic sleeping bag with a hood and arms inside the bag. So, if your child is older and you don’t have to worry about safety features, then a traditional sleeping bag might be better (and, unlike with baby sleeping bags, there are actually more options for 5 year olds!). ### Lightweight and Compact I take my daughters backpacking and end up carrying pretty much all of our gear.  So, it is really nice that the Morrison sleeping bags are lightweight and compact.  I have the synthetic bags.  They are larger and heavier than the down bags but I can handle the extra few ounces. | **Bag** | **Weight** | |---|---| | Little Mo Synthetic | 14oz (391g) | | Little Mo Down | 8.7oz (247g) | | Big Mo Synthetic | 1lb 2oz (498g) | | Big Mo Down | 11.6oz (330g) | | Mighty Mo Synthetic | 1lb 6oz (623g) | | Mighty Mo Down | 14.6oz (415g) | ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/morrison-bag-sizes.jpg "morrison bag sizes - Mom Goes Camping")*The Morrison 40F sleeping bag is on the left The 20F down bag is on the right Its compact* ### Easy Clean Up Morrison children’s sleeping bags have a water-resistant nylon shell. You can wipe it clean if it gets dirty.  The bags also dry very quickly and are machine washable.  As with any sleeping bag, you should only wash it in cold water. Apparently you can dry the Morrison sleeping bags in the dryer machine with tennis balls (the tennis balls help keep the bag’s insulation from losing its fluff).  However, I like my sleeping bags too much so always hang them to dry.  Listening to tennis balls banging around doesn’t sound like fun anyway. ### Two Way Zipper The two-way zipper means you can open the sleeping bag from the top or the bottom.  This feature is great because it allows: - Diaper changes: just unzip the bottom for the change without having to take your child out. - Regulating temperature: you can unzip a section of the sleeping bag to allow for ventilation. ### Several Color Options Morrison sleeping bags currently come in light blue, green, orange and “black rainbow.” Even though dirt shows faster on these, I recommend getting one of the lighter color bags.  Why? Because I’m vigilant about ticks. You can see ticks crawling on light colors easier than on dark colors! ### Trade-in Program Kids outgrow gear fast, which is why I love that Morrison has a [trade-in program](https://morrisonoutdoors.com/pages/tradein?aff=3). **When your child outgrows their sleeping bag, you can send it back for store credit worth up to 40% of its retail price** — which takes some of the sting out of buying the next size up. Just email Morrison your product details and they’ll send you a prepaid shipping label (US and Canada). The used bags get inspected and resold at a discount on their site, so another family gets affordable gear and your old bag stays out of the landfill. **[You can Buy Morrison Sleeping Bags Here](https://morrisonoutdoors.com/collections/sleeping-bags?aff=3) \*\*\*Remember to use discount code Momgoescamping at checkout to get 10% off!\*\*\*** ## Cons of Morrison Sleeping Bags While I love the Morrison sleeping bags, they aren’t perfect. Here are some of the things that might be deal breakers. ### Slippery Material Morrison sleeping bags have a nylon shell similar to that used in any adult sleeping bag. The problem is that this material is slippery.  It can be tricky to hold a wriggly baby in a slippery bag! ### Draft Tubes Get Stuck in Zippers There are “draft tubes” along the zippers.  This is actually a professional-level sleeping bag feature that prevents warm air from escaping the bag through the zipper area. The problem is that the draft tube can get stuck in the zipper.  It’s not really a problem with the baby or toddler bags.  But, by the time your child is in a Mighty Mo, they will probably be zipping themselves up.  They will NOT be careful and the draft tube fabric will annoyingly get stuck.                                              **Taking the kids camping for the first time?** My “Your Family’s First Camping Trip” bundle has the complete guide, printable packing checklist, and three done-for-you itineraries — everything from booking the site to the drive home. **[                                                                    Get the bundle →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/1stcampingtrip)** ### Maybe Too Warm If camping in very warm temperatures, the Morrison sleeping bags will be too warm for your child.  I ended up using one as a blanket for my child during an unexpectedly-warm night.  If you only camp in hot temps, then you’ll want a less-warm bag, like the one by BabyDeeDee. It’s okay to around 50 degrees F.  For more on that, read my [guide to baby sleeping bags for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/best-baby-sleeping-bags-camping/). [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/too-warm.jpg "too warm - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/too-warm.jpg)Even the synthetic bag was too warm for this trip I had to drape it over my daughter like a blanket ### Not Stroller or Carrier Compatible The Morrison sleeping bags don’t have separated legs, so your baby won’t be able to wear it while in a hiking carrier. Because there aren’t separated legs or a hole for the stroller harness, you also can’t really use it in a stroller.  It is possible to strap your child in from the side (as shown in the picture below). Of course, I can’t recommend that you ever use baby gear in a way other than instructed (don’t sue me if your baby squirms out! 😉 ). ![Morrison baby sleeping bag in a stroller](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/in-stroller-pic-copy-1.jpg "in stroller pic - Mom Goes Camping") ### Older Kids Might Not Want Sleeves Around five years old, my daughter started preferring classic-style sleeping bags with sleeves. She likes to bundle her hands inside the bag.  Luckily, the Morrison Mighty Mo is wide enough that she could bring her arms inside it, but a traditional bag would have been better for her.  If your child is older and you want a sleeveless model, check out these [sleeping bags for kids](https://momgoescamping.com/best-kids-sleeping-bags/). [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/backpacking-with-kids-sleepign-bag.jpg "backpacking with kids sleepign bag - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/backpacking-with-kids-sleepign-bag.jpg)My daughter with her hands inside the bag She stopped liking the sleeves ### Weird Stuff Sack Dimensions While the Morrison sleeping bags are compact, I personally don’t like the stuff sacks. They are long and thin (like a hot dog) instead of short and wide (like a marshmallow).  This isn’t a problem for car camping, but the long size makes it hard to get the sleeping bag into my pack when backpacking.   Since I have a zillion sleeping bags, I just put the Morrison bag into another stuff sack.  Problem solved, but worth knowing anyway. Read more about: sleeping with babies below: - [Co-Sleeping with a Baby While Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/co-sleeping-baby-camping/) - [How to Sleep in a Tent with a Baby](https://momgoescamping.com/sleep-tent-with-baby/) ## Morrison Sleeping Bag FAQ: #### Can the Morrison bag be used with infants? Morrison updated their minimum age recommendation to 6 months. For safety, don’t use it with children under 6 months the concern is a very small baby sliding down inside the bag. From 6 months onward it’s designed to be safe, with no hood, no drawstrings, and a fleece-lined collar that sits at neck level. #### Are Morrison sleeping bags machine washable? Yes  both the synthetic and down versions are machine washable in cold water. The water-resistant nylon shell wipes clean for small messes and the bags dry quickly. You can tumble dry with tennis balls to keep the insulation lofted, though hanging to dry is gentler on the filling long-term. #### What insulation does Morrison use in their sleeping bags? The down bags use 650 fill power down, which is high-quality and makes the bags very warm yet lightweight. The synthetic bags use Hi-loft insulation an eco-friendly option that’s not as warm or lightweight as down but holds up better if the bag gets wet. Unless you need the 20°F rating for cold-weather camping, the synthetic version is the more practical choice. #### What happens if there’s a diaper explosion in the sleeping bag? It happens. Blot out as much moisture as you can immediately, then machine wash the bag in cold water both versions are fully machine washable. Lining the inside with a flat diaper or a folded microfiber cloth under the baby catches minor leaks before they reach the bag. For major explosions, the nylon shell is water-resistant enough to give you a few minutes to respond. #### Is the Morrison trade-in program worth it? Yes  especially if you’re planning to buy multiple sizes as your child grows. Sending back the old bag for up to 40% store credit takes meaningful money off the next size up. The bags hold up well enough that they pass Morrison’s inspection process, and you’re not stuck with outgrown gear gathering dust. Email them with your product details and they send a prepaid shipping label. If your baby could slip into the sleeping bag, such as if they have a tiny head, then don’t use the sleeping bag! ![infant in Morrison sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/infant-in-little-mo-bag.jpg "infant in little mo bag - Mom Goes Camping")*This baby definitely isnt 6 months old 😮* ### What Insulation Does Morrison Use in their Sleeping Bags? The down bags have 650 fill power down insulation, which is high-qualilty and allows the bags to be very warm yet still lightweight.  The synthetic bags use “Hi-loft” insulation, which is an eco-friendly product but not as warm or lightweight as down. ### **What happens if there are diaper explosions?** Speaking from experience, I’d advise you to put a liner of some kind in the sleeping bag (you can even spread out diapers under your baby in the sleeping bag, or use a folded towel or similar).  This will help catch any leaks. If the Morrison sleeping bag does get wet though, you should try to blot out as much as you can.  Both versions of the sleeping bag dry quickly.  At home, you can machine wash the bag (even the 20F down bag is machine washable!). ### Are Morrison sleeping bags machine washable? ### Yes — both the synthetic and down versions are machine washable (use cold water only, like with any sleeping bag). The water-resistant nylon shell also wipes clean for small messes, and the bags dry quickly. You can tumble dry them with tennis balls to keep the insulation lofted, but I personally hang mine to dry. [**Buy the Morrison baby sleeping bag here**](https://momgoescamping.com/morrison-down) **(Remember to use code Momgoescamping at checkout to get 10% off!\*\*\*** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids --- ### [Best Stroller Wagons for Camping and Hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/best-camping-wagons/) **Published:** January 18, 2025 **Author:** Diane **Content:** My family mostly goes wild camping in the backcountry, which usually means we need to walk at least a mile to get to camp.  This wasn’t a problem when my kid was a baby.  I’d just strap her to my front and load gear into a backpack.  But, now that she is 4 (and nearly 40lbs!), I can’t carry her plus all of our gear.  The solution?  We got a collapsible stroller wagon for camping.  Read more about strollers and trailers below: - [Stroller vs Hiking Carrier: Which Is Better for Trails?](https://momgoescamping.com/stroller-vs-hiking-carrier/) - [At What Age Can a Baby Go in a Bike Trailer?](https://momgoescamping.com/bike-trailer-age-baby/) In addition to walk-in camping, collapsible wagons – aka folding utility wagons or stroller wagons,  can also work for hiking with little kids, as a fishing cart, music festivals, or as a stroller wagon for two kids.  They are far from a perfect solution, and some wagons are better suited for certain types of activities. Below I’ve picked the best stroller wagon carts for camping, plus lots of info on how to choose the right wagon for your style of camping. [![best stroller wagon kids](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/hiking-wagon-1.jpg "hiking wagon - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/hiking-wagon-1.jpg)*On our way to the campsite with a 4 year old and lots of gear loaded into the folding wagon*  ## Quick Picks: - **Best Overall:** [Radio Flyer Odyssey](https://amzn.to/3Pxp1Wa) - **Best for Serious Adventuring:** [Veer Cruiser](https://amzn.to/3OZppGr) (also at [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F242802%2Fveer-cruiser-city-xl-4-seater-stroller-wagon)) - **Best on a Budget:** [Gorilla Cart](https://amzn.to/4ujMARt) - **Best Beach Wagon:** [Beau Jardin wagon](https://amzn.to/4uemwHi) - **Best Wagon Stroller:** [Jeep Deluxe Wrangler](https://amzn.to/4dj2rJV) ## What Terrain Can You *Realistically* Use a Camping Wagon On? Before you get too excited about camping wagons, be warned that they have limitations.  Cheap wagons with small plastic wheels simply aren’t able to handle rocky paths, tree roots or other bumpy terrain.  Unless the wagon has extra-wide wheels, it won’t go on sand and will get stuck in mud. Using a folding wagon on rough terrain can cause axles or wheel posts to bend. I’ve heard stories of wheel posts breaking, even when the wagon wasn’t at its weight limit.  If this happens, you will not only have to haul your *gear* out, but will have to lug the broken wagon too. [![best stroller wagon kids](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/kid-in-folding-wagon.jpg "kid in folding wagon - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/kid-in-folding-wagon.jpg)*My cheap wagon was able to handle this rocky road but it was bumpy*![stroller wagon steel](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/steel-cart-for-camping.jpg "steel cart for camping - Mom Goes Camping")*Steel carts like [this one](https://amzn.to/4fvobDL) work better for heavy loads on rough terrain They are a pain to pack though and heavy* ### Can You Use a Folding Wagon for Hiking? A lot of National and State Parks don’t allow wagons on trails.  If it is allowed, then you’ll need a wagon with these features so it can handle the rough terrain: - Large back wheels - All-terrain tires - Suspension system - Very sturdy construction Unfortunately, good hiking wagons don’t come cheap.  The [Veer Cruiser wagon](https://amzn.to/4wxbrTf), which is one of the only folding wagons with a suspension system, costs around $700.  There are some folding wagons which cost over $1,500! **If you don’t feel like spending a fortune on a wagon which can go off-road, try:** - A deer/game cart - Steel garden carts or dollies with pneumatic tires - Off-road bike trailer/stroller, like the [Burley Honey Bee](https://amzn.to/4wy3U6V).  These aren’t cheap but at least you can use them biking too! **Also read:** [How to Carry Toddlers and Little Kids Hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-carriers-bigger-kids/) ### Can You Use a Folding Wagon as an Everyday Stroller? Yes.  Wagons are great for trips to the local park, picnics or even grocery shopping.  Most kids love riding in wagons, especially when they get too “grown up” for traditional strollers but still can’t walk far distances.  Folding wagons are also good if you have two little kids and don’t want to deal with a double stroller. If you want to use a wagon instead of a stroller, **make sure you get a wagon which can also be *pushed*.** It’s a lot easier to maneuver a wagon through tight supermarket aisles and narrow sidewalks when you are pushing.  Wagons which have smaller front wheels and larger back wheels are also easier to maneuver. ![best stroller wagon veer cruiser](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/veer-wagon-stroller.jpg "veer wagon stroller - Mom Goes Camping")*The Veer Cruiser being used with two kids in an airport Most airlines let you check it at the gate like a stroller* ## Tips for Using a Wagon Off-Road - **Balance the weight:** Try to distribute your gear in the wagon so the weight is spread out evenly. Otherwise the wagon will be hard to steer and may wobble. - **Clean before storing:** Always clean dirt, mud and sand off of the wagon and let it dry before putting away. Otherwise the parts can start to rust or get gunked up. - **Check hardware before using:** Make sure there are no loose rivets, screws or other parts before taking your wagon out. - **Wagons require maintenance!** You will need to regularly lubricate the wheels, axles and bearings of your wagon.  Otherwise they will start to squeak and wobble. - **Bring a multi-tool for quick repairs:** After going on a particularly rough trail, the jostling caused a bolt on my wagon to come loose. Luckily I noticed before losing the bolt completely and had a mini multi-tool with me to tighten it. - **Don’t abuse the wagon:** Overloading a wagon and taking it on tough terrain can damage the wheel casters or cause parts to break.  If the trail gets unexpectedly tough, make your kids get out and walk for a while or carry some of the gear until the trail gets better. - **Fixing wobbly wheels:** It’s common for the wheels on folding wagons to get wobbly.  If this happens, first try cleaning and lubricating them.  Check that all hardware is tightened. If that doesn’t solve the wobbling, then you may need to replace the wheels — which unfortunately isn’t possible on most cheap wagons. ## Best Camping Wagons Reviewed ### 1. [Radio Flyer Wagon Odyssey](https://amzn.to/4uUGNld) **Choose because:** Amazing wagon for kids and gear, so long as you have space for it in your car [![Radio Flyer camping folding wagon](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Radio-Flyer-wagon.jpg "Radio Flyer wagon - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Radio-Flyer-wagon.jpg) #### **Specs:** - **Weight limit:** 120lbs - **Wagon weight:** 40lbs - **Interior size (LxWxH):** 33x19x11” - **Folded size:** 27x24x15” - **Wheels:** 12” diameter back, 7.75” front with rubber tires; 1.75” wide - **Brakes:** Yes - **Push/pull?** Push and pull **[Buy Here](https://amzn.to/4uUGNld)** #### **Review:** I absolutely love the Odyssey folding wagon by Radio Flyer.  There are a bunch of cool features which you won’t find on other wagons, yet still doesn’t cost a fortune.  The main cool thing is that it has a side wall which folds down.  This means your kids can use the wagon as a bench seat.  It also makes it easier to put heavy gear in the wagon (don’t have to lift as high).  With some smart packing methods, you could even use this feature to make a “drawer” system and access gear from the side. Other awesome features include the interior storage pockets, removable exterior basket, removable canopy and 5-point safety harness for kids. These are included in the price and not add-ons! You can push or pull the wagon.  Because the back wheels are 12”, it handles tough terrain fairly well.  It will get stuck in sand (especially if loaded), but you can do some off-roading with this wagon.  The wheels are even removable and there is a brake. The downside? It is HEAVY and HUGE when folded.  At least it rolls when folded. Taking the wheels off does save space, but it is still really boxy.  So don’t get this if you have limited storage space or a small car trunk. #### **Pros:** - Works well on bumpy terrain - Side folds down - Lots of storage pockets - Push and pull - Rolls when folded #### **Cons:** - Very heavy - Boxy when folded --- ### 2. [Veer Cruiser Wagon](https://amzn.to/4nBUrag) **Choose because:** It can handle very tough terrain [![Veer Cruiser camping stroller wagon](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/veer-cruiser-wagon.jpg "veer cruiser wagon - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/veer-cruiser-wagon.jpg) **Specs:** - **Weight limit:** 350lbs or two kids 55lbs each - **Wagon weight:** 33lbs - **Interior size (LxWxH):** 33x18x12″ - **Folded size:** 37x20x14″ (wheels on); 37x20x8” (wheels off) - **Wheels:** 12” back wheels; 7.5” front wheels; 2” wide with PU tires - **Brakes:** Yes - **Push/pull?** Push and pull - **Buy At: [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F242801%2Fveer-cruiser-city-2-seater-stroller-wagon), [Amazon](https://amzn.to/4nBUrag)** #### **Review:** The Veer Cruiser wagon is definitely not cheap – but it is one of the only collapsible wagons which can handle tough terrain and even hiking.  It has 12” back wheels and smaller 7.5” front wheels, which makes it easier to maneuver on tough terrain and prevents it from getting stuck in mud.  There is a suspension system built into the front wheels, so it provides a smooth ride. The wagon is mostly designed for kids. You can also put two kids (up to 55lbs each) in the wagon.  There is a “footwell” that extends below the wagon, creating an actual seat for the kids. There are safety harnesses on each seat.   It’s also possible to mount a child car seat to the wagon using an adapter.   There’s no reason you can’t use this wagon for hauling gear too though.  The gear weight limit is 350lbs! There are also a lot of nice extra design features on the wagon: the fenders prevent dirty water from splashing on the wagon, the wheels are removable to make it more compact, it’s easy to clean…. You can push or pull the Veer Cruiser using the same handle. Pulling is definitely easier though, especially on tough terrain.  If you try to push it over sand or mud, it will be difficult to maneuver and might get stuck. [![veer stroller wagon](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/veer-inside.jpg "veer inside - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/veer-inside.jpg)Footwell creates seats inside the Veer Cruiser wagon[![veer cruiser stroller wagon lying flat folding](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/veer-closed.jpg "veer closed - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/veer-closed.jpg)With the wheels off the Veer folds flatish #### **Pros:** - Handles very tough terrain - Suspension system - Removable wheels - Footwell creates seats for two kids - Rear-wheel fenders to prevent splashing - Car seat compatible - JPMA certified and meets ASTM safety standards - Folds compact with wheels removed #### **Cons:** - Expensive! - Accessories are also expensive --- ### 3. [Jeep Deluxe Wrangler Stroller Wagon](https://amzn.to/4nBUvqw) **Choose because:** It has lots of extras and is great for pushing two kids [![jeep wrangler folding wagon stroller](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/jeep-wrangler-folding-wagon-stroller.jpg "jeep wrangler folding wagon stroller - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/jeep-wrangler-folding-wagon-stroller.jpg) **Specs:** - **Weight limit:** 110lbs - **Wagon weight:** 47lbs - **Interior size (LxWxH):** 36x18x12” - **Folded size:** 38x29x25” - **Wheels:** 12” back, 8” front with rubber tires - **Brakes:** Yes - **Push/pull?** Push and pull - [**Buy Here** ](https://amzn.to/4nBUvqw) #### **Review:** The Jeep Deluxe Wrangler wagon is designed for pushing children.  It has two seats with 5-point safety harnesses.  It’s also car seat compatible (with adapter).  You could use it to carry gear too though, but the weight limit is only 110lbs, which is less than most other folding wagons. What’s really cool about the Jeep wagon stroller is that it has tons of extra features: lots of storage, a wheel brake and removable canopy.  It even comes with a cooler bag and it’s all included in the price.  Because the frame is horizontal on the sides, it’s easy to strap gear there too. It’s definitely a heavy-duty wagon and the large wheels can handle tough terrain.  The major downside is that it is HEAVY!  It is also massive when folded.  You can remove the wheels, but it will still be huge and might not fit in your car trunk. Another downside is that it doesn’t have a standard pull handle.  You can still pull the wagon, but it’s not as comfortable as if you had a long handle.  The Jeep wagon definitely isn’t cheap either, but the price is on par with double strollers of this caliber. #### **Pros:** - Tons of exterior storage - Canopy - Handles tough terrain well - Fits two kids - Car seat compatible - Easy to push - Lots of interior space #### **Cons:** - Does not have a standard pull handle - Huge when folded - Very heavy - Low weight limit --- ### 4. [Mac Sport Utility Wagon](https://amzn.to/42IOvCV) **Choose because:** It’s an affordable wagon that’s good enough for most needs [![Mac Sports folding camping wagon](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/mac-sports-utility-folding-wagon.jpg "mac sports utility folding wagon - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/mac-sports-utility-folding-wagon.jpg) **Specs:** - **Weight limit:** 150lbs - **Wagon weight:**23lbs - **Interior size (LxWxH):** 30x17x10″ - **Folded size:** 30x21x8” - **Wheels:** 8″ diameter, 2″ wide with rubber tires - **Brakes:** No - **Push/pull?** Pull only - [**Buy Here** ](https://amzn.to/42IOvCV) #### **Review:** The Mac Sport is by far the most popular camping wagon – not because it’s the best though.  Rather, it’s “good enough” for most people’s needs while still being really affordable.  The wheels are 8” in diameter, 2” wide and have rubberized tires. The wheels will handle somewhat bumpy terrain, but they definitely won’t handle sand or mud. If you need a wagon for sand, [Mac Sports also makes a beach wagon](https://amzn.to/4uTq15T).  The only real difference between it and this wagon is the size of the wheels (the sand wagon has 10” wheels which are 4” wide).  The bigger wheels means that the beach wagon is heavier and larger when folded though. The Mac collapsible wagon frame is strong but abide by the weight limit.  If you exceed the weight limit, the wheel posts will bend and the fabric will tear! There are some design flaws with the Mac Sports wagon. Because of the way that it folds, you can’t roll it with the handle while folded.  It also won’t stand up on its own when folded.  Compared to the other camping wagons reviewed here, the Mac wagon also doesn’t have much interior space yet still is pretty bulky when folded. #### **Pros:** - Affordable - Sturdy frame - Handles somewhat rough terrain - Comes with a removable tray #### **Cons:** - Light-duty only - Not much interior space --- ### 5. [Beau Jardin Beach Wagon](https://amzn.to/4tGwdNu) **Choose because:** It’s an affordable beach wagon ![](https://ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&language=en_US&l=li3&o=1&a=B09DFBG4S5)[![beau jardin beach wagon for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/beau-jardin-beach-wagon-for-camping.jpg "beau jardin beach wagon for camping - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/beau-jardin-beach-wagon-for-camping.jpg) **Specs:** - **Weight limit:** 176lbs - **Wagon weight:** 30lbs - **Interior size (LxWxH):** 31x17x10.6” - **Folded size:** 32x22x8.5″ - **Wheels:** 7” diameter, 4” wide plastic - **Brakes:** Yes - **Push/pull?** Yes - **[Buy Here](https://amzn.to/4tGwdNu)** #### **Review:** While it isn’t as popular, I like this Beau Jardin wagon better than the Mac Sports beach wagon. It has some nice design features which make it easier to use.  For starters, the front wheels are spaced further apart, so the wagon doesn’t wobble or tip easily.   Because of the way the wheels line up when folded, you can even pull it with the handle when folded. It also has brakes. It’s still a cheap wagon so you need to be realistic about what it will do.  Do not overload it or the wheel posts will break.  The wheels are only 7” so get stuck in loose sand.  But it’s the best you can expect for such an affordable collapsible wagon. #### **Pros:** - Rolls when folded - Removable fabric - Lockable wheels - Works on sand #### **Cons:** - No cup holders or extras - Doesn’t withstand abuse - Plastic wheels --- ### 6.[ Gorilla Folding Wagon](https://amzn.to/3RjCD7V) **Choose because:** It’s very light and compact when folded, yet still has tons of storage space [![Gorilla cart folding wagon](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/gorilla-folding-wagon.jpg "gorilla folding wagon - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/gorilla-folding-wagon.jpg) **Specs:** - **Weight limit:** 150lbs - **Wagon weight:** 20lbs - **Interior size (LxWxH):** 36x21x15″ - **Folded size:** 25×9.55×9.5″ - **Wheels:** 7″ diameter, 1.5″ wide rubber tires - **Brakes:** Yes - **Push/pull?** Pull only - **[Buy Here](https://amzn.to/3RjCD7V)** #### **Review:** This folding wagon by Gorilla Carts is one of the largest you will find.  The basket area is huge!  Yet, it still folds down really small.  It is also incredibly lightweight.  The description on Amazon seems to be incorrect.  It’s closer to 20lbs than 13.5lbs, but that is still really lightweight for a folding wagon.  There are also lots of extras like storage pockets and wheel brakes. Not surprisingly considering how cheap and light the wagon is, it will not handle abuse.   If you overload it, the cart will bend or break.  You could give kids a ride in this, but you’d have to balance out the weight to get a smooth ride.   I would only recommend it for hauling light-but-bulky gear like camping chairs. #### **Pros:** - Very lightweight and compact - Lots of storage space - Affordable #### **Cons:** - Does not withstand abuse at all - Not great for kids --- ### 7. [Timber Ridge Wagon](https://amzn.to/4tOPZXn) **Choose because:** The back folds down so you can haul long gear [![timber ridge camping wagon with fold down back side](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/timber-ridge-wagon-2.jpg "timber ridge wagon 2 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/timber-ridge-wagon-2.jpg) **Specs:** - **Weight limit:** 300lbs - **Wagon weight:** 26lbs - **Size (LxWxH):** 49×18.9x 21.5″ - **Folded size:** 30x12x7″ - **Wheels:** 7” diameter, 1.5” wide with rubber tires - **Brakes:** No - **Push/pull?** Pull only - [**Buy Here**](https://amzn.to/4tOPZXn) #### **Review:** This is one of the cheapest collapsible wagons you will find.  As expected at this price, the wagon is a bit flimsy.  Do NOT trust its weight limit of 300lbs! However, it has the awesome feature that the back folds down, allowing you to carry long gear in the wagon. It also has an adjustable-length handle and storage pockets, not something you’d expect on a cheap wagon. Another big plus is that it stores upright with the wheels down. You can even roll it when it is closed, making it much easier to transport. #### **Pros:** - Cheap - Back side folds down - Can roll even when closed - Compact when folded - Stands when folded #### **Cons:** - Not for sand or rough terrain --- ### 8. [Navatiee S1 Folding Wagon](https://amzn.to/4wBp2ZN) **Choose because:** It folds down tiny [![Navatiee Collapsible Folding Wagon, Heavy Duty Utility Beach Wagon Cart with Side Pocket and Brakes, Large Capacity Foldable Grocery Wagon for Garden Sports Outdoor Use, S1](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41CWJYDjeRL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09CPNSHKQ?tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) ![](https://ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&language=en_US&l=li3&o=1&a=B09CPNSHKQ) **Specs:** - **Weight limit:** 220lbs\* - **Wagon weight:** 24lbs - **Interior size (LxWxH):** 35x19x13” - **Folded size:** 26x9x8” - **Wheels:** 7” diameter, 1.5 wide with rubber tires - **Brakes:** No - **Push/pull?** Pull only - [**Buy Here**](https://amzn.to/4wBp2ZN) #### **Review:** Here’s another cheap folding wagon for camping.  It is really lightweight and folds down smaller than any of the other collapsible camping wagons reviewed here.  It is also the only cheap wagon with detachable wheels and the fabric is removable too. For cheap, small wagons though, I personally still prefer the Gorilla Cart wagon over it.  The handle on the Navatiee attaches in a weird way: to both front wheels.  This actually makes it slightly harder to maneuver over tough terrain.  Despite what the manufacturer says, the Navatiee wagon won’t handle 220lbs without breaking. If folded size is your main concern though, then this is the wagon to get.  Just don’t abuse it or take it on really tough terrain! #### **Pros:** - Removable wheels and fabric - Lightweight and compact - Affordable #### **Cons:** - Light-duty only - Hard to maneuver ## **Using a Stroller Wagon in Rain and Wet Conditions.** Most camping wagons are made of nylon or polyester fabric that handles light moisture well but isn’t waterproof. Here’s what to know: The cargo area. The fabric bed of most wagons will absorb rain and hold moisture, which is a problem if you’re carrying sleeping bags, clothing, or anything that shouldn’t get wet. A simple fix: keep a large dry bag or a reusable grocery bag inside the wagon for anything water-sensitive. A fitted wagon liner (sold separately by brands like Veer and Radio Flyer) provides more complete protection. Canopy coverage. Most premium wagons come with a sun/rain canopy, but coverage varies. The Veer Cruiser’s canopy extends further and provides better rain protection than the Radio Flyer Odyssey’s. If rain protection matters to you, verify the canopy coverage specs before buying — product photos don’t always show what’s actually protected. After use in rain. Let the wagon fabric dry completely before folding and storing. Storing a wet wagon folded tight encourages mildew in the fabric. Stand it open in a dry garage or porch until fully dry. ## **Camping Wagon Accessories Worth Having** The right accessories make a camping wagon significantly more useful: Wagon liner/cargo liner. A fitted liner keeps gear contained, makes cleanup easier, and provides a barrier against moisture and dirt. Veer, Radio Flyer, and Keenz all sell brand-specific liners. Third-party options exist but fit varies. Snack tray / parent console. Most adults hauling a wagon through a campground appreciate a cup holder and a spot for their phone. Many wagons have attachment points for add-on trays. Extra canopy or full enclosure. For bug-heavy campsites or stronger sun, a full mesh enclosure over the wagon cab makes camping with young kids significantly more comfortable. Veer and Keenz make these. All-terrain wheel upgrade. If you bought a standard wagon and find it struggling on rougher trails, some brands sell all-terrain wheel swaps. Check your brand’s accessory catalog. Wagon-specific sleeping bag or blanket. For cool evenings, a small fleece blanket keeps kids comfortable in the wagon without needing a full layer change. ### **FAQ: Stroller Wagons for Camping and Outdoor Adventures:** **1. What is a stroller wagon?** A stroller wagon is a hybrid between a stroller and a wagon. It combines the best features of both: the convenience and comfort of a stroller with the storage and versatility of a wagon. Stroller wagons are great for families who want to carry kids and gear on camping trips or outdoor adventures. **2. How is a stroller wagon different from a regular wagon?** Unlike regular wagons, stroller wagons are designed with safety and comfort in mind for transporting children. They often feature: - **Harnesses**: To keep kids secure. - **Canopies**: For sun and rain protection. - **Push/Pull Options**: Allowing you to push like a stroller or pull like a wagon. - **All-Terrain Wheels**: For smoother rides on rough trails. **3. Why choose a stroller wagon for camping?** - **Versatility**: Stroller wagons can handle a variety of terrains, from sandy beaches to forest trails. - **Convenience**: They provide ample space to carry kids, camping gear, snacks, and even pets. - **Comfort**: Many models include padded seats, canopies, and features to keep kids cozy on long trips. **4. What features should I look for in a stroller wagon for camping?** When selecting a stroller wagon, consider these key features: - **All-Terrain Wheels**: Large, sturdy wheels for tackling dirt, sand, and gravel. - **Weight Capacity**: Ensure it can carry your children and gear. - **Foldability**: Easy to collapse and transport in your vehicle. - **Weather Protection**: Canopies or rain covers to shield from the elements. - **Storage**: Extra compartments for snacks, drinks, and essentials. - **Brakes and Safety**: Reliable braking systems and harnesses for kid safety. **5. Can stroller wagons replace traditional strollers?** It depends on your needs. Stroller wagons are ideal for outdoor adventures and family outings with lots of gear but may not be as convenient for everyday errands or crowded spaces due to their larger size. **6. Are stroller wagons suitable for infants?** Not all stroller wagons are safe for infants, as they often lack full recline options. Check the manufacturer’s guidelines, and look for models with bassinet or car seat adapters if you plan to use them for a baby. **7. Are stroller wagons worth the investment?** If you frequently camp, hike, or attend outdoor events with your kids, a stroller wagon can be a game-changer. The versatility and extra storage make them a worthwhile investment for active families. ### Expanded FAQ 2026! Can stroller wagons handle beach or sandy campground terrain? Standard plastic or hard-rubber wheels struggle significantly in deep sand — they sink and require real effort to push. All-terrain pneumatic (air-filled) wheels like those on the Veer Cruiser and Wonderfold W4 handle sand much better. If beach camping is a priority, prioritize air-filled tires in your wagon choice. The Radio Flyer Odyssey’s foam-filled tires are a middle ground — better than hard plastic, not as good as pneumatic. What’s the weight limit for kids (not just cargo) in a camping wagon? Most quality camping wagons are rated for 100–150 lbs of combined passenger weight. The Veer Cruiser and Wonderfold W4 are rated for up to 110 lbs passenger capacity. The Radio Flyer Odyssey supports up to 120 lbs. If you have two kids riding together — say a 4-year-old and a 6-year-old — you’re typically fine on most wagons. For three kids or older/larger children, check the specific model’s weight rating carefully. What accessories should I add first to a new camping wagon? Start with a wagon liner (keeps everything contained and protects the fabric) and a sun/rain canopy if your model doesn’t include one. After that, a snack tray for the adults and a small fleece blanket for the kids are the additions most families actually use regularly. ### Do you use a folding wagon for camping? Let us know how it worked for you in the comments section below. Sources <https://www.reddit.com/r/camping/comments/vlhfah/best_wagon/>, <https://www.reddit.com/r/camping/comments/4jmgc5/looking_for_gear_hauling_cart/> Image credit: “[Springmaid Pier](https://www.flickr.com/photos/rc/1343877/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Randy’s World (Kinda)](https://www.flickr.com/people/rc/) “[San Francisco International Airport](https://www.flickr.com/photos/sharonhahndarlin/50765214786/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Sharon Hahn Darlin](https://www.flickr.com/people/sharonhahndarlin/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [Are Nuts a Good Backpacking Food? (No. Here’s What to Eat Instead)](https://momgoescamping.com/nuts-good-backpacking-food/) **Published:** January 14, 2025 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Unless you want to lug around a heavy pack, it’s important to choose backpacking [foods which have a lots of calories per ounce](https://momgoescamping.com/calorie-dense-healthy-backpacking-foods/).  With approximately 160-190 calories per ounce, nuts are definitely calorie dense (by comparison, dried applies only have 60 calories per ounce). This makes it seem like nuts are the perfect backpacking food. However, because of the way the body processes nuts, they aren’t nearly as calorie-dense as they appear. ## Key Point Nut Butters for the Win! ## The Body Doesn’t Absorb All Calories from Nuts The amount of calories a food has is calculated by *bomb calorimeter.* Basically, a food is put into a chamber where it is surrounded by water.  The food is then ignited and the calorimeter measures how much the temperature of the water increases. The issue with these calories counts is that *our bodies don’t burn up food!*  The last I checked, I didn’t have a literal furnace inside my stomach! If you’ve ever pooped in the woods after eating a lot of trail mix, then you are aware that many of those nuts are not getting absorbed by your body (and that you surprisingly don’t chew your food as much as you thought 😉 ). ## Actual Calories in Nuts A lot of research has been done on the actual calorie count of nuts.  For example, the studies reported on [here](https://medicalxpress.com/news/2018-03-nuts-calories-previously-thought.html), [here](http://www.berkeleywellness.com/healthy-eating/food/article/are-nut-calorie-counts-wrong), and [here](https://www.foodnavigator-usa.com/Article/2013/03/01/Why-can-we-eat-lots-of-nuts-without-getting-fat)) have found that **almonds and walnuts contain around 20-32% fewer calories than the label indicates.** This still makes nuts a decent food for backpacking in terms of calories. However, if you are calculating your calorie needs for backpacking, the tally can end up being inaccurate. **Also read: [How many calories do you need backpacking?](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-food-calorie-calculator/)** ## Nut Butters Are Better for Backpacking Studies have found that chewing nuts – I mean *really* chewing them – results in more calories and fat being absorbed by the body.  Likewise, [studies](http://www.berkeleywellness.com/healthy-eating/food/article/10-questions-about-nut-butters) have found that virtually all of the calories from nut butters are absorbed. Basically, the more ground-up the nuts are (peanut butter vs. peanuts) and how much you pre-chew nuts drastically affects how well your body can absorb the food. **The bottom line? To get maximum calories from your nuts/seeds on the trail:** - **Chew them thoroughly!** - **Or bring nut butters instead of whole nuts** ## Use Nut Butters in Backpacking Meals Experienced backpackers will bring peanut butter on the trail (here’s [how to pack PNB for backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-carry-peanut-butter-when-hiking-or-backpacking/)).  You can eat it directly from the container as a snack. Or, you can add nut butter to meals like: - Oatmeal - Tortillas - Ramen ![backpacking ramen with pnb](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/backpacking-ramen-with-pnb.jpg "backpacking ramen with pnb - Mom Goes Camping")Ramen with peanut butter soy sauce paste and dried scallions before mixing ### Use Nut Butters in Sauces I make badass sauces out of blended nuts, and then dehydrate them.  The cashew-tomato sauce shown below, for example, has 163 calories per ounce!  It’s healthy, lightweight, and very calorie-dense.  You can get the recipe (and many more healthy backpacking recipes) in my eBook. Get my favorite peanut butter packets for hiking here: [Peanut Butter Packets for Hiking](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=peanut+butter+packets+hiking&tag=momgoescampin-20) [Or spice things up with almond butter.](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=almond+butter+single+serve+packets&tag=momgoescampin-20) **Want gourmet meals on the trail?** My dehydrator recipes ebook has 50+ calorie-dense backpacking recipes — just add hot water. **[Get it here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck)** ## Nuts for Backpacking FAQ: #### Are nuts good backpacking food? They’re decent but overrated. The calorie counts on the label assume complete absorption, but research shows almonds and walnuts deliver 20-32% fewer usable calories than listed because of how the body processes whole nuts. They’re still worth bringing — just don’t plan your calorie needs around the label number. #### What’s better than nuts for backpacking calories? Nut butters. Your body absorbs virtually all the calories from peanut butter, almond butter, and cashew butter, compared to the partial absorption from whole nuts. You get the same calorie density with more reliable fuel. Single-serve packets are the most practical form for backpacking. #### How many nuts should I bring backpacking per day? If you’re using nuts as a snack, bring about 2oz per day roughly a small handful. More than that and you’re carrying weight your body may not fully use. If you’re relying on nuts as a significant calorie source, switch to nut butter packets and use whole nuts as a secondary snack only. #### Which nuts have the most calories for backpacking? By label weight: macadamia nuts (204 cal/oz), pecans (196 cal/oz), walnuts (185 cal/oz), almonds (164 cal/oz). But accounting for actual absorption, the pecans and macadamias hold their advantage better since their fat is more bioavailable than almonds. Cashews are the most palatable for most people on the trail and a reasonable middle ground. #### Can I bring peanut butter packets backpacking? Yes — they’re ideal. Single-serve peanut butter packets weigh about 1.1oz each and deliver roughly 190 calories of fully absorbed fat and protein. They require no utensils if you’re eating straight from the packet, pack flat, and don’t require refrigeration. Justin’s and Rx Nut Butter both make reliable options. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/creamy-cashew-tomato-sauce.jpg "creamy cashew tomato sauce - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/creamy-cashew-tomato-sauce.jpg)*Pasta with cashew tomato sauce rehydrated Get the recipe in [my eBook](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck)* ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Food --- ### [What to Wear Camping in Cold, Rain and Muddy Weather](https://momgoescamping.com/clothes-camping-rain-cold-mud/) **Published:** July 16, 2025 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Fall is my absolute favorite time to go camping and hiking.  There are no bugs. The leaves are gorgeous and crowds have gone home.  But camping in fall can mean a lot of rain. Which also means mud.  To make it worse, it gets *cold*. Read more below: - [Is Merino Wool Worth It?](https://momgoescamping.com/is-merino-wool-worth-it/) - [Kari Traa Base Layers Review](https://momgoescamping.com/kari-traa-base-layers-review/) It’s taken me a while to perfect my clothing system for bad weather, but now I’ve got it down to a science.  Here’s what to wear when camping or hiking in cold, rainy weather.  I should also add here that generally speaking good quality clothing will outperform and outlast cheaper, inferior products.  Buy once, cry once. Price will be long forgotten in your clothing is not keeping you warm. **Also read: [How cold is too cold for tent camping?](https://momgoescamping.com/how-cold-is-too-cold-for-tent-camping/)** **Tip:** Check out [REI’s Outlet section](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Frei-garage). You can find huge discounts on quality outdoor clothes. If you are looking for Merino, brands like [Meriwool](https://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=847e6ae1390efbed9228578f06c06db2&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=apparel&keywords=Meriwool%20Merino) and [Lapasa](https://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=308d3db264708826f7d6f6e10e7da87c&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=apparel&keywords=Lapasa%20merino) are affordable, especially if you buy a base layer set. ## Top Layers ![top layers for camping in cold weather](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/top-layers-for-cold-weather-camping.jpg "top layers for cold weather camping - Mom Goes Camping")**Shown** [SmartWool base layer top](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DSmartWool%2Bbase%2Blayer%2Btop) [fleece hoodie by Kuhl](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DKuhl%2Bfleece%2Bhoodie) and [Arcteryx shell jacket](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DArc%2527teryx%2Bshell%2Bjacket) ### 1. Undershirt/Bra (Optional) I wear an athletic tank top with a built in bra. ### 2. Base layer top Mine is a breathable synthetic athletic shirt that I got in a secondhand store.  If you can afford it, there’s nothing like Merino wool base layer tops. ### 3. Mid layer top I wear either a fleece hoodie or my amazing wool hoodie (also got it at a secondhand store).  How thick should your mid layer be? In very cold weather, you’ll want something very thick.  If you will be very active, then you don’t need as much insulation.  If it’s not too cold an you will be very active, you might just want a vest. **Don’t wear down as your mid layer.** It gets wet easily, won’t insulate when wet, and takes forever to dry.  Wool is much better, especially if you aren’t practiced at staying dry in the rian. ### 4. Shell jacket You’ll need either a rain jacket or a soft shell jacket.  If I will be hiking or very active, then I prefer a soft shell because it is more breathable. If it will be pouring rain and I will mostly be sitting around, then a rain jacket is better. If your rain jacket is thin, then wear an extra thick mid layer. ## Bottom Layers ![bottom layers for cold weather hiking and camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/bottle-layers-for-cold-weather-camping-2.jpg "bottle-layers-for-cold-weather-camping 2 - Mom Goes Camping") ### 5. Underwear I used to just wear my normal cotton underwear.  I’ve recently become a full-fledged material snob though and now have fancy Merino underwear. ### 6. Base layer bottom These wick sweat away from your legs and crotch.  They should fit snug and be made from Merino or synthetic materials.  If you don’t have long johns, tights will work.  You can also wear tight-fitting athletic or exercise pants. ### 7. Insulating layer (Optional) Your legs don’t lose heat as much as your core, so you probably don’t need a insulating pants unless it is very cold OR you aren’t being very active.  I have a nice pair of fleece pants for these situations.  For extreme cold, you’ll need puffer pants. ### 8. Shell Layer This layer protects you from water and wind. Choose water-resistant (soft shell) pants if you will be very active or the rain isn’t very intense.  If the is lots of rain and mud, then you’ll want fully waterproof rain pants.  Here are [my favorite rain pants for women](https://momgoescamping.com/best-waterproof-womens-hiking-pants/), [best kids rain pants](https://momgoescamping.com/best-kids-rain-pants/), [best baby rain suits](https://momgoescamping.com/baby-rain-suits/) and [best toddler rain suits](https://momgoescamping.com/best-rain-suits-toddlers/). ## Hands [![hand layers for cold weather camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/hand-layers-cold-weather-camping.jpg "hand layers cold weather camping - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/hand-layers-cold-weather-camping.jpg)**Shown** [REI liner gloves](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Drei%2Bliner%2Bgloves) and [REI Minimalist GTX Mittens](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DREI%2BMinimalist%2BGTX%2BMittens) ### 9. Liner gloves These need to be very thin.  If you don’t have liner gloves, biking gloves will work. ### 10. Insulated shell gloves or mitts In rainy weather, you probably don’t want to deal with an insulating layer on your hands (it’s hard to do camp tasks in fluffy gloves!) Instead, get gloves or mitts that have built-in insulation.  Bonus points if your gloves have hooks so you can attach them to your jacket.  Otherwise you’ll take them off and forget where you put them (like I was constantly doing). **Also read:** [Cold-weather glove layering system](https://momgoescamping.com/best-winter-hiking-gloves/)                                         **Taking the kids camping for the first time?** My “Your Family’s First Camping Trip” bundle has the complete guide, printable packing checklist, and three done-for-you itineraries everything from booking the site to the drive home. **[                                                                 Get the bundle →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/1stcampingtrip)** ## Head ### 11. Ear warmer or buff I’ve got a cool buff that keeps my hair out of my face.  I wear it over my ears to keep them warm. A lot of people wear the buff over their ears and neck at the same time, meaning they don’t need a separate scarf.  I find it more comfortable to wear a separate scarf though. ### 12. Brimmed hat I wear glasses, so a brimmed hat is a must for me.  Without the hat, water gets all over my glasses and I can’t see. If your jacket hood has a built-in visor, then you might not need this. ### 13. Jacket Hood This will keep your head dry. ### 14. Scarf I got a real *keffiyeh* in Hebron, Palestine.  I love that thing.  But any scarf will do.  Bonus points if it is a quick-dry material. ## Feet [![feet layers for camping in cold weather](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/feet-layers-hiking-in-cold.jpg "feet layers hiking in cold - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/feet-layers-hiking-in-cold.jpg)**Shown** [REI Ecomade liner socks](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DREI%2BEcomade%2Bliner%2Bsocks) [Darn Tough Steely Boot cushion socks](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=c428e507-7aa6-4377-be1a-5f1693f6693b&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fdarntough.com%2F) and [Arctic Sport Muck boots](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DArctic%2BSport%2BMuck%2Bboots) ### 15. Liner socks Liner socks move moisture away from your feet so you don’t get blisters. These need to be made from a thin, quick-dry material.  Merino or synthetics materials are best. ### 16. Insulating socks These will keep your feet warm. Wool is the best material for this layer, though some synthetics work well too. If your boots are insulated, you may be able to skip these socks. **Also read:** [Best cheap hiking socks](https://momgoescamping.com/cheap-hiking-socks/) ### 17. Waterproof boots When camping in really muddy weather, I wear rubber boots.  Tip: Put an insert in your rubber boots.  The extra layer of insulation from the ground will keep your feet warmer. ## Camping Clothes FAQ: #### What should you NOT wear camping in the rain? Cotton in any layer. Cotton absorbs water, loses all insulating ability when wet, and takes hours to dry. In cold and rainy conditions this is genuinely dangerous, not just uncomfortable. This applies to jeans, cotton hoodies, cotton base layers, and cotton socks. If it has a cotton content above about 20%, leave it at home for wet camping. #### How many layers do you need for cold weather camping? Three for the core: base layer (moisture-wicking), mid layer (insulating), shell (waterproof/windproof). For the legs: base layer plus shell pants is usually sufficient since legs generate more heat than the torso. Hands and head need their own layering these are where you lose heat fastest and where adding or removing a layer has the biggest effect on comfort. #### Is a rain jacket or soft shell better for camping? Depends on the conditions. A soft shell breathes better and is more comfortable for active hiking in light rain. A waterproof hard shell keeps you dry in heavy rain but traps more sweat. If you’re mostly sitting at camp in a downpour, hard shell. If you’re hiking in drizzle, soft shell. Many experienced campers carry both. #### Do you really need Merino wool for camping? No, but it helps. Merino regulates temperature better than synthetic, doesn’t smell as quickly, and feels better against skin on multi-day trips. Affordable Merino brands (Meriwool, Lapasa) close the price gap considerably. If budget is tight, a good synthetic base layer is fine — just change it and air it out more frequently. #### What boots are best for muddy camping? Rubber/Wellington boots for serious mud they’re fully waterproof, easy to clean, and nothing beats them in truly muddy conditions. Their weakness is insulation and ankle support on rough terrain. For mixed conditions (some mud, some trail), a waterproof hiking boot with gaiters is more versatile. The key for either is wool socks, not cotton. **Below are some pictures of how I look with all my layers on.** It was in the low 40s at camp.  We were building some things at camp so got very muddy and dirty! And, yes, I [made a fire in the rain.](https://momgoescamping.com/make-fire-rain/) ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/complete-outfit-min.jpg "complete outfit-min - Mom Goes Camping") How I looked when my husband came to pick me up.[![cold weather camping clothes top layers](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/top-min.jpg "top-min - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/top-min.jpg) [![cold weather camping clothes bottom layers](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/bottom-layers-min.jpg "bottom layers-min - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/bottom-layers-min.jpg) ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/kid-dressed-for-cold-weather.jpg "kid dressed for cold weather - Mom Goes Camping")*My 3 year old wears the same layers that I do* **Pin this!** ![how to dress for camping and hiking in cold and rainy weather](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/how-to-dress-for-camping-in-the-cold-and-rain-2.jpg "how-to-dress-for-camping-in-the-cold-and-rain 2 - Mom Goes Camping") ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** clothes, cold, rain --- ### [How to Tell if a Snake Is About to Strike](https://momgoescamping.com/tell-snake-about-to-strike/) **Published:** August 26, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** *This article is brought to you by Joshua Castle who is a professional and licensed snake catcher in Brisbane, Australia.  He definitely knows his stuff when it comes to telling whether a snake is about to strike! As a backpacker, I keep my distance from any snakes I see but it is still incredibly useful to know whether a snake you come across on the trail is getting ready to strike.  Here’s what Josh has to say.* ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/coastal-carpet-python-josh-snake-catcher.png "coastal carpet python josh snake catcher - Mom Goes Camping")*Snake catcher Joshua Castle handling a female coastal carpet python* Reading snakes body language can be very difficult to the untrained eye but there are a few things we should consider when coming across a snake in the wild. First and foremost, DO not try and catch it yourself and defiantly do not try and kill the snake: 95% of bites happen because the person was untrained in the field and could not read the body language properly. In Australia where I live, snakes are protected by the government so it is actually highly illegal to interfere with these species without the proper permits and licenses. But let’s say you come across a snake in the wild or maybe you forgot to keep your tent closed and one slithered inside. You’ll be able to tell whether the snake is about to strike by its “mood.”                                            **Taking the kids camping for the first time?** My “Your Family’s First Camping Trip” bundle has the complete guide, printable packing checklist, and three done-for-you itineraries everything from booking the site to the drive home. **[                                                                         Get the bundle →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/1stcampingtrip)** ## Mood 1: Relaxed If treated with the respect they deserve, some snakes will have a relaxed attitude about them.  They will lazily flick their tongue out to [taste the air](https://theconversation.com/explainer-why-do-snakes-flick-their-tongues-29935).  Snakes have almost no eyesight, so they rely on their tongue flicker to know what is going on. ## Mood 2: Unsure In the unsure mood, a snake will start to flick its tongue  more rapidly to try and grasp what is going on around it. This behavior should be observed from 5-10 meters to ensure maximum safety. Getting any closer could result in a nasty bite. Bear in mind some snakes have an incredible strike range. **They** **can launch their body 2-3x their body length**. ## Mood 3: About to Strike If a snake’s tongue stops moving, chances are its spotted you. If you make the mistake of getting too close at this point, 9 out of 10 times the snake will rear up a little into an S-shape position.  This S-shape is a sign that the snake is about to strike. Start backpacking away out of strike range. Below you can see images of snakes in strike position. ![snake about to strike](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/snake-about-to-strike-2.jpg "snake about to strike 2 - Mom Goes Camping") [![snake about to strike](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/snake-about-to-strike-1.jpg "snake about to strike 1 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/snake-about-to-strike-1.jpg)[](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/snake-about-to-strike-1.jpg)![snake about to strike](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/snake-about-to-strike-on-roof.jpg "snake about to strike on roof - Mom Goes Camping") Some snakes won’t give you that warning of rearing and S’ing up though, which is why you always need to keep your distance from a snake. It’s not worth the risk of getting close just so you can take a cool photo for Instragram.  Please don’t take this for granted. Snakes don’t want to bite you but, if you get within its personal space while its reared up at you, you will most definitely be in for a bad time. [![striking snake](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/snake-striking.jpg "snake striking - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/snake-striking.jpg)*A snake striking* Reading snake body language is very difficult and should be left to a professional snake catcher. At the end of the day, they still are wild species and can turn very quickly, some snakes can almost have a bipolar personally: they will be fine one minute, and the next they are wrapping their mouth around your hand. ## Snake Strike FAQ: #### How far can a snake strike? Most snakes strike at roughly a third to half of their body length so a 4-foot snake can realistically reach 1.5 to 2 feet. The safe rule is to give any snake at least 6 feet of clearance, since adrenaline tends to distort distance perception and some species do exceed average strike ranges. #### Do all snakes coil before striking? No, the S-shaped coil is a warning sign in many species but not all. Some snakes strike from a flat or loosely curved position without warning, which is why the safe approach is the same regardless of posture: give it space and back away slowly. #### What should you do if a snake is in strike position? Stop moving. Slowly back away without turning your back on the snake. Don’t make sudden movements, don’t yell, and don’t try to go around it quickly. Give it at least 6-10 feet before changing direction. Once you’re out of range, the snake will almost always retreat on its own. #### What does it mean when a snake stops flicking its tongue? It means the snake has detected you and is processing the threat. Tongue flicking is how snakes sense their environment when it stops, the snake is focused. This is the moment to stop moving and begin slowly backing away, not the moment to take a photo. #### Is a rattlesnake rattle always a warning before a strike? No, rattlesnakes don’t always rattle before striking, particularly when they feel they’ve already been detected and cornered. The rattle is a warning to give the snake time to escape, not a guaranteed pre-strike signal. Never assume silence means safety near a rattlesnake. **Also Read:** - [**What to do if your see a snake**](https://momgoescamping.com/what-to-do-if-you-see-a-snake/) - [**How to treat a snake bite in the wild** ](https://momgoescamping.com/snake-bite-first-aid/) - [What to Do If You See a Snake While Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/what-to-do-if-you-see-a-snake/) - [How to Treat a Snake Bite in the Wild](https://momgoescamping.com/snake-bite-first-aid/) - --- ###### Image credits: [Joshua Castle](https://www.facebook.com/josh.castle.79/photos) “[Rattle Snake](https://www.flickr.com/photos/photogism/19878444861/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [photogism](https://www.flickr.com/people/photogism/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety **Tags:** snakes --- ### [Sawyer Mini Water Filter Review: Tested After 11 Years](https://momgoescamping.com/sawyer-mini-water-filter-review/) **Published:** November 25, 2015 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Water is one of the most important elements of survival. You can go about 3 weeks without food, but you are only going to last 3 days without water, which is why it is so important to make sure you have a reliable source of clean water when camping or backpacking.   As a cash-strapped mom who goes backpacking in the wilderness with my preschooler, I ultimately decided on the Sawyer Mini as our water filter. Here is why, and my experience using it. Read more below: - [How Long Does the Sawyer Mini Filter Last?](https://momgoescamping.com/how-long-does-sawyer-mini-filter-last/) - [Getting Sick While Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/get-sick-camping/) - [Best Camping Spots in the Balkans](https://momgoescamping.com/best-camping-spots-balkans/) ## Why I Chose the Sawyer Mini Water Filter There are a LOT of camping water filters out there. So many that it is overwhelming. When choosing a water filter for camping, there were 4 main factors I was looking at: - **Price:** I’m a single mom and don’t have a lot of money to spend on backpacking gear.  The Sawyer Mini only costs about $20 (you can [buy it here](https://momgoescamping.com/sawyer-mini-link) for that price) - **Size and Weight:** Since I have to carry most of my preschooler’s gear too, it is really important that the water filter be compact and lightweight. - **Long Filter Life:** Replacement water filters don’t cost too much. But I live in Eastern Europe, which means I have to pay exuberant shipping costs. A $5 replacement filter might cost $30 to ship! - **Filters Effectively:** Obviously you want your camping water filter to actually get rid of bacteria and protozoa. For this reason, I only considered major brand names for the water filter and not those cheap generic ones which aren’t tested. At first, I considered getting the Life Straw because it was so light and compact. But you can only use the Life Straw as a straw, meaning you can’t use it to filter water for cooking. I also considered the pump-style Katadyn Hiker Pro water filter, but it has a filter life of about 1,150 liters. I’d have to buy expensive replacement filters – which would be even more expensive for me since I live overseas and have to pay insane shipping costs. The thing I really loved about the Sawyer Mini water filter is that **it has a** **filter life of 100,000 gallons**. If you calculate that you drink 64 ounces of water per day, that means the Sawyer Mini would last you 200,000 days of camping! Basically, the Sawyer Mini is going to last you forever. ## Sawyer Mini Specs - **Weight:** 1.9oz - **Flow Rate:** 1 liter per 5 1/2 minutes (this is very low!) - **Filter Life Span:** 100,000 gallons - **Input:** Standard 28mm bottle threading - **Output:** Small nozzle with a cap [![Sawyer Mini in use](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/isabel-sawyer-mini-682x1024.jpg "isabel sawyer mini - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/isabel-sawyer-mini.jpg)My daughter during a recent camping trip We screwed the Sawyer Mini onto a plastic water bottle to drink from and to squeeze clean water out ## Using the Sawyer Mini One thing I like about the Sawyer Mini is that it can be used in multiple ways. You can fill up the pouch with water, and then squeeze the water through the pouch. Or you can screw the Sawyer Mini onto a plastic bottle and drink through the filter. Or you can use the tube attachment to turn the water filter into a straw and drink directly from the water source. ### Problems with the Sawyer Mini Pouch The Sawyer Mini pouch system is ingenious. However, I immediately had some problems with it. The pouch that comes with the Sawyer Mini is really small (16oz). And, when you dunk into a stream, ponds, etc, the pouch doesn’t fill all the way up with water. I’m guessing I only was able to fill up the pouch halfway. I’d squeeze the dirty pouch water through the filter and into our water bottles. Then I’d have to refill the pouch again. And again. And again. It isn’t exactly fun to dunk your hands into freezing cold water 😮  Sawyer does sell larger pouches in 32oz and 64oz sizes, but you’ve got to buy them separately. Even with the constant refilling, the pouch system worked okay – until the pouch burst open! Yes, the pouch is basically just some plastic which is glued together. I really wish Sawyer would come out with some more durable pouch which can be used with the Sawyer Mini. One solution to this problem is to get a large hydration bladder and attach the Sawyer Mini to it. But not all hydration bladders are compatible with the Sawyer Mini.  Mine wasn’t. 🙁 **Note**: Sawyer makes a hydration pack adapter, but it only is compatible with the [Sawyer Squeeze](http://amzn.to/29m6gj5), not the Mini! ### Using the Sawyer Mini with a Plastic Bottle When the Sawyer Mini pouch burst, I had no choice but to use it with a plastic bottle. I’d fill up the plastic bottle with dirty water, screw on the Sawyer Mini, and then squeeze the water through the filter. Standard plastic bottles aren’t made to be squeezed repeatedly, so the bottle started looking really crumpled. Luckily, the plastic bottle didn’t break – though I did have a replacement in case it did. For day hikes, it was really convenient to use the Sawyer Mini. I kept dirty water in my large hydration pack. I poured this water into our plastic water bottle and then screwed on the Sawyer Mini. There was no need to stop and filter water because we just drank through the filter. This was great! ![using sawyer mini](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/using-sawyer-mini--1024x826.jpg "using sawyer mini - Mom Goes Camping")I put dirty water in one plastic bottle and squeeze it through the Sawyer into another bottle ### Cleaning the Sawyer Mini The Sawyer Mini can easily be cleaned with a special syringe. You just fill the syringe with clean water and push the water through the tip of the water filter. You’ll know when the Sawyer Mini needs to be cleaned because it will get harder to filter/suck water through it. When using the Sawyer Mini at a pristine mountain stream, I went days without cleaning it. When at a mucky pond, I had to clean it 2 times per day. ## Would I Recommend the Sawyer Mini? For lightweight backpacking, I would recommend the Sawyer Mini. It is cheap, effective, and easy to use. However, because of the problems with the pouch, I would recommend that you spend the money to buy a larger pouch.   I’d also recommend getting more than one Sawyer Mini so each member of your group can have one to screw on his/her water bottle. For car camping and other outdoor situations where size and weight aren’t as important, I’d opt for a pump-style water filter instead because filtering with the Sawyer Mini can be time consuming. For multiple purposes, I’d go with the [Sawyer Squeeze](http://amzn.to/29m6gj5) + Inline Hydration Adapter + a hydration pack.  The Sawyer Squeeze has a much higher flow rate, but is still really lightweight and small, so it is good for all types of camping and backpacking. [![sawyer squeeze](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/sawyer-squeeze.jpg "sawyer squeeze - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/sawyer-squeeze.jpg)Id go with the Sawyer Squeeze over the Mini because it has a higher flow rate and there is an adapter for using it with a hydration pack Check out how it is being used in Nepal You can [buy the Sawyer Mini filtration system here](https://momgoescamping.com/sawyer-mini-link).  It costs about $20, which is cheaper than most camping water filters you’ll find! 🙂 What backpacking water filter do you use? ## **Frequently Asked Questions:** **What is the lifespan of the Sawyer Mini Water Filter?** The Sawyer Mini has an advertised lifespan of 100,000 gallons. However, in real-world use, especially with murky water, it may not last as long. Regular cleaning and maintenance can help extend its lifespan. **Can the Sawyer Mini be used with a hydration bladder?** Yes, the Sawyer Mini can be attached to a hydration bladder. However, not all bladders are compatible, and some users report issues with the durability of the included pouch. **What contaminants does the Sawyer Mini filter out?** The Sawyer Mini has a 0.1-micron filter that removes bacteria (like E. coli and Salmonella) and protozoa (such as Giardia and Cryptosporidium). However, it does not filter out viruses, chemicals, or heavy metals. **How do I clean and maintain the Sawyer Mini?** To maintain good flow, regularly backflush the filter with clean water using the included syringe. If the filter becomes clogged, soak it in warm water with a little white vinegar to help clear blockages. **Is the Sawyer Mini suitable for group use?** While the Sawyer Mini is a great lightweight option, its small size makes it less efficient for large groups. For group camping trips, consider a gravity-fed or pump-style filter for faster water filtration. ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** review, water filter --- ### [Best Baby Rain Booties, As Chosen by Outdoorsy Parents](https://momgoescamping.com/best-baby-rain-booties/) **Published:** March 19, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I would go crazy if I stayed indoors with my baby during bad weather. A [baby rain suit](https://momgoescamping.com/baby-rain-suits/) and waterproof booties let us get outdoors regardless of the weather. Rain boots are actually pretty hard to find for infant and crawling babies. There surprisingly aren’t too many waterproof rain booties for babies. I’ll go over them here, as well as options for improvising your own, and how to keep booties on your baby’s feet. Read more below: - [Best Baby Rain Suits](https://momgoescamping.com/baby-rain-suits/) - [Is It Rude to Camp with a Baby?](https://momgoescamping.com/is-it-rude-to-camp-with-a-baby/) - [How to Give a Baby a Bath While Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/give-baby-bath-camping/) ## Best Baby Rain Booties ### Baby Bogz Rain Boots [![Baby Bogs rain boots](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/baby-bogs-waterproof-rain-boots.jpg "baby bogs waterproof rain boots - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/baby-bogs-waterproof-rain-boots.jpg) **Best for: Babies starting to walk** The brand Bogs is really well-known for their unique style of rain boots.  Bogs rain boots are completely waterproof. However, they are quite short and have openings on the side, so your baby won’t be able to jump or crawl through big puddles with these.  Because water can drip into the boots, a lot of reviewers complain that Bogs aren’t really water. Make sure you put your baby’s rain pants *over* the boots instead of tucking the pants inside; this will help keep water out. Compared to other baby booties, the sole on Baby Bogs is a bit thicker and sturdier. That’s what makes these a good pick for babies starting to walk.  They are too bulky for crawling babies; the boots will drag in the ground.  The boots have waterproof insulation in them so are quite warm.  You can apparently wash these booties in the machine but I wouldn’t recommend it. **Features:** - Lots of cute designs - Insulated - Semi-firm sole - Rated to 14 degrees F - 5” tall, 7” circumference opening - [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00H30AHMG/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00H30AHMG&linkId=83b7a6ed836f15936e3666f1971851e1) --- ### Stonz Baby Booties [![Stonz baby rain booties](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/stonz-baby-rain-booties.jpg "stonz baby rain booties - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/stonz-baby-rain-booties.jpg) **Best For: Cold weather, feet dangling from carrier/stroller** These are one of the only baby booties which really won’t fall off.  They have two drawstring toggles which keep the boots securely in place.  Just note that they are NOT completely waterproof.  The booties are water-resistant, which means water will mostly fall off of them.  If your baby crawls through a deep puddle, her feet will end up wet.  Because of that, these booties are best for [hiking in cold weather with a baby](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-baby-toddler-cold/) or situations where your baby’s feet dangling out of a carrier or stroller. **Features:** - Water-resistant - Cute designs - Two drawstring toggles - Soft, non-slip CPMA-certified soles (toddler version has rubber soles) - Nylon outer with fleece lining - [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0046WRI1C/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B0046WRI1C&linkId=46dbec6154dcd89cf57342689762dd50) ---                                            **Taking the kids camping for the first time?** My “Your Family’s First Camping Trip” bundle has the complete guide, printable packing checklist, and three done-for-you itineraries — everything from booking the site to the drive home. **[                                                                    Get the bundle →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/1stcampingtrip)** ### Randy Sun Waterproof Breathable Ankle Socks [![waterproof socks for baby](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/randy-sun-socks.jpg "randy sun socks - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/randy-sun-socks.jpg) **Best For: Alternative solution** These obviously aren’t baby rain booties but they are actually better in some ways. For starters, the socks are 100% waterproof but still have a good breathability. The socks are made out of three layers: the outer layer is mostly nylon.  The mid layer contains the waterproof membrane and the inner layer wicks sweat. If you layer a few pairs of wool socks on your baby and put these waterproof socks on top, your baby’s feet will actually stay quite warm. Pull the waterproof sock all the way up over your baby’s legs and they won’t fall off even the squirmiest baby.  Just make sure you get ankle or mid-height waterproof socks. The calf-high adult socks will be way too big on your baby’s legs! **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F7N9MP4/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07F7N9MP4&linkId=ee911a42f1628c7823df8e04f90b4153)** --- ### SealSkinz Waterproof All Weather Waterproof Ankle Socks [![sealskinz waterproof socks as a baby bootie](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/sealskinz.jpg "sealskinz - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/sealskinz.jpg) **Best For: Another great alternative solution** Here is another brand of waterproof socks.  They are more expensive than the Randy Sun socks above. However, these ones are lined with wool so a bit warmer.  They are also a bit more durable. Once your baby doesn’t need them anymore, you can use them yourself. It will seem hilarious that you and your baby are sharing clothes! [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07R5QBW3K/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07R5QBW3K&linkId=75888bb5d5b7e53a2bfc51d52c07fbe5) --- ## How to Keep Baby Booties from Falling Off The first pair of waterproof booties I got for my daughter was really cheap.  The booties would always fall off. Once she started crawling they’d last a few seconds on her feet before coming off. I eventually got a better pair which stayed on better – and learned these tricks to baby booties on. - **Drawstrings are better than Velcro:** Velcro closures never get tight enough for a good fit. Velcro sometimes comes undone while babies are crawling around. Velcro also gets fuzz/dirt stuck in it and then loses its sticking strength, so drawstrings tend to be better for baby booties. - **Choose booties with multiple drawstrings:** One drawstring is good but *two* drawstrings are even better. - **Put the pants *over* the booties:** You can even put a hair band over the pants to help hold everything in place. - **Get a rain suit with foot straps:** Put the straps over completely over the booties. These not only keep your baby’s booties from falling off, but will keep the rain suit from riding up. - **Double-sided tape trick:** If your baby is wearing tights, then put little pieces of double-sided tape or tacky strips on the bottom. The booties might still fall off but it will take longer. When they do fall off, they’ll be stuck to the tights so you are less likely to lose them. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/baby-playing-in-mud.jpg "baby playing in mud - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/baby-playing-in-mud.jpg)*These Velcro rain booties constantly fell off my baby* ## Improvised Baby Rain Booties Don’t want to buy rain booties for your baby?  There are a lot of ways to improvise your own. - **Umbrella bags:** These are usually completely waterproof and very cheap. Just put them over your baby’s feet and use some hair bands to hold in place. - **Plastic bags:** These are not breathable or comfortable. So, make sure your baby isn’t wearing cotton socks as they will get sweaty and wet. Instead, choose wool or fleece socks underneath the bag. - **Waterproof drawstring bags:** Such as ones used for toiletries or ponchos. - **Waterproof mittens:** Kid’s sized waterproof mittens should fit a baby’s feet well. Look for ones which have adjustable wrist straps and the mittens will stay on your baby’s feet better. - **Large dog booties:** These are usually much cheaper than waterproof baby booties. The large size should fit small infants. - **Waterproof hiking socks:** As mentioned in the reviews, there are some cool brands of waterproof socks. Put these over your baby’s normal socks.  Because the adult socks go over your baby’s entire legs, they take a lot longer to fall off. ## Baby Rain Booties FAQ: #### What are the best waterproof booties for babies? For walking babies, Bogs are the most durable option with a proper rubber sole. For crawlers or babies in carriers, Stonz are the best at actually staying on. For a fully waterproof alternative that works for any age and any activity level, waterproof sock brands like SealSkinz pulled up over the baby’s legs beat most dedicated booties. #### How do you keep rain booties on a baby? Drawstrings beat Velcro Velcro never gets tight enough and collects grime that kills the grip. Two drawstrings beat one. The most reliable method overall is pulling rain pants over the outside of the booties (not tucking them inside), which holds the bootie in place and keeps water from running in. Rain suits with foot straps take this a step further and are worth looking for. #### At what age can babies wear rain boots? Standard rain boots need a baby who can walk steadily usually 12-18 months. Before that, they’re too bulky and heavy for crawlers and will drag on the ground. For pre-walkers, stick to soft waterproof booties like Stonz or pull-up waterproof socks, which work from newborn stage onward and actually stay on through crawling. #### Are waterproof socks a good alternative to baby rain booties? Yes, often better. Waterproof socks pulled up over a baby’s calves stay on far longer than most bootie designs, provide full waterproof coverage, keep ankles warm, and when the baby outgrows them, a parent can often use them themselves. The Randy Sun and SealSkinz brands in adult small sizes fit many babies’ legs. #### Do I need both a rain suit and rain booties for camping with a baby? For serious wet weather, yes. A rain suit keeps the body and legs dry; booties keep the feet dry. The gap between the two where rain runs down the leg and into the bootie is solved by putting the rain suit pants over the outside of the bootie and securing with a foot strap or hair band. Without both, one end of your baby will end up wet. **Do you have any advice about rain booties to share? Let us know in the comments section below.** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** baby, rain --- ### [How Big Does a Family Tent Really Need to Be?](https://momgoescamping.com/how-big-family-tent/) **Published:** February 24, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** As a general rule, a family of 4 will need at least a 6 person tent.  A family of 5 will likely need an 8P tent and a 6-person family will need a 10P tent.  However, these guidelines aren’t always accurate.  Some very large tents will actually only sleep four people comfortably, especially if you are using air mattresses. To figure out how big of a tent your family *really* needs, you need to consider: how many rooms you need, gear storage requirements and the sleep layout. **Also Read:** - [Types of Camping Tents (with Pictures)](https://momgoescamping.com/types-camping-tents-with-photos/) - [Best 6P Family Tents](https://momgoescamping.com/best-6-person-tents/) - [Best Large Family Tents ](https://momgoescamping.com/best-large-family-tents/) - [Best Three Room Tents for Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/best-three-room-tents/) - [How to Pitch a Tent So the Inside Doesn’t Get Wet](https://momgoescamping.com/pitch-tent-in-rain-inside-doesnt-get-wet/) - [Best Large Family Tents](https://momgoescamping.com/best-large-family-tents/) - ## How Many Rooms Do You Need? Do you want everyone in the family to sleep in the same room? Or would you prefer separate sleeping areas (such as one for the adults and one for the kids)? Keep in mind that two-*room* tents don’t always have two *sleeping* areas. It depends on the layout and number of doors whether the rooms can be used for sleeping or not. For example, the [Coleman Skylodge 8P tent](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08KGRTZGT/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08KGRTZGT&linkId=eddee9e4101931da2719d8940cf24bf5) has removable divider which will create two rooms.  However, if someone were to sleep in the front room, the beds would block the entrance.  The people sleeping in the back room would have to craw over the people in the front to get in/out! By contrast, with the [REI Wonderland 6P tent](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F202982%2Frei-co-op-wonderland-6-tent) (shown below), you could use both rooms for sleeping.  This is because the Wonderland tent has two doors, meaning people could get in/out without bothering those in the other room. ## Do You Want to Hang Out in the Tent? It’s great to have an option to hang out in the tent when it’s raining or to hide from mosquitoes at dusk.  However, this means you’ll probably need to have another room.  Ideally, this room will have large mesh windows. The [two-room Core 9P cabin tent](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VFH1RQS/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00VFH1RQS&linkId=cb416fcd4485a17496b7a8adc15cdfc0) has a massive porch for hanging out and a sleeping room in the back.  [Ozark Trail 10P tunnel tent](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008IMKRQ4/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B008IMKRQ4&linkId=9058be47c96a869296fcd927b9685974) has three rooms: a hang-out room in the middle and two rooms off to the side.  It’s not actually going to fit 10 people comfortably though! ![ozark trail 10p large family camping tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/ozark-trail-10p-large-family-camping-tent.jpg "ozark trail 10p large family camping tent - Mom Goes Camping")The Ozark Trail 10P tent with 3 rooms![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/three-room-tent-hang-out-room.jpg "three room tent hang out room - Mom Goes Camping")The middle room of this large tent is for hanging out the side rooms are for sleeping ## How Much Gear Storage Do You Need? Tent size ratings only account for sleeping space: they do not factor in gear storage. Luckily, a lot of family tents have vestibules for gear storage.  If you have a lot of gear to store though, you will need to get a larger tent or choose one with a porch. ## Are You Using Camping Pads or Air Mattresses? Camping sleeping pads are usually only 78×20 inches.  The small size means you can get away with having a smaller tent. Because they are small, you also have more flexibility with the sleeping arrangements – such as having someone sleep in the tent’s front porch without worrying that they will block the door. By contrast, air mattresses take up a lot more space in the tent.  You won’t have as many options when it comes to sleep layout.  Once the air mattresses are inflated, you might not have any remaining space for gear or moving around the tent.                                         **Taking the kids camping for the first time?** My “Your Family’s First Camping Trip” bundle has the complete guide, printable packing checklist, and three done-for-you itineraries — everything from booking the site to the drive home. **[                                                                   Get the bundle →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/1stcampingtrip)** ### Draw the Sleep Layout! If you are using air mattresses, I strongly suggest you draw out the sleep layouts before buying a tent.  This will give you an idea of how much walking space you have left. ![tight fit with air mattresses in family tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/tight-fit-with-air-mattresses-in-family-tent.jpg "tight fit with air mattresses in family tent - Mom Goes Camping") See the picture above. Once all three air mattresses are inflated, there is no walking space in the tent (Coleman Instant Tent).  The camper in the back will have to crawl over the people in the front to get in/out.  I hope they don’t have to go to the bathroom in the middle of the night! ### Add 6 Inches of Space Around the Walls You never want to sleep directly against a tent wall.  This will cause water – either from rain or condensation – to leak into the tent, meaning you get wet.  To prevent this, make sure you leave at least 6 inches of space between the tent walls and beds. ![air mattress in family tent layout](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/air-mattress-in-tent.jpg "air mattress in tent - Mom Goes Camping") See the image above: The air mattress is pressed squeezed against the wall of the tent, meaning they will likely get wet if it rains or condensation forms. ## Yes, Tents Can Be Too Big! To ensure your family has enough room while camping, you might be tempted to get a very large family tent.  While no one will likely complain about having extra room in the tent, there are some problems with large tents. ### Problems with Too Big Tents: - **Might not fit at campsite:** Campgrounds campsites are often very small.  Your tent might take up the entire site, leaving you with little room for recreation. - **Harder to find clear, flat ground:** If you are wild camping or backpacking, it can be very difficult to find a clear, flat space large enough for a big tent. - **Take longer to pitch:** Large tents are usually more complicated to pitch. Because they are large, they also need to have their guylines staked out for stability, which can take a very long time in certain terrain. - **Don’t withstand wind well:** Large tents, especially cabin-style tents, don’t withstand wind well. At best, you will listen to wind flapping against the tent walls all night.  At worst, your tent could blow away! - **Some campgrounds charge more for large tents:** Most campgrounds charge per-site but some do have additional fees for large tents. Because of these issues, avoid getting a tent which is too big for your needs. Take the time to really consider how your family will use the tent and whether the layout makes sense for your needs. ## Family Tent Size FAQ: #### What size tent do I need for a family of 4? At minimum, a 6-person tent and a 8-person tent if you want comfortable walking space and room for gear. Tent capacity ratings assume sleeping bodies only, no gear, no air mattresses, and no personal space. A “4-person” tent genuinely fits four adults lying flat with nothing else in it. For a real family camping experience, always size up by at least two person-ratings. #### What size tent do I need for a family of 5? An 8-person tent at minimum, a 10-person if you want a separate room or hangout space. With five people, you’re also more likely to need separate sleeping areas for adults and kids look for tents with a removable divider and two separate doors so each room has its own entrance. #### Do I need a 2-room tent for a family with kids? Not necessarily, but it helps. A single-room large tent works fine if everyone is comfortable sleeping together. A 2-room tent becomes useful when you want the kids to go to bed earlier, when older kids want privacy, or when you want a rain shelter separate from the sleeping area. The key is that each room needs its own door  a divider that blocks the only entrance defeats the purpose entirely. #### Are air mattresses a problem in family tents? Yes. they take up significantly more floor space than sleeping pads, which limits your layout options. A queen air mattress is roughly 60 x 80 inches with no side-sleeping margin. Before buying a tent, sketch your air mattress layout and check whether you’ll have walking space and a 6-inch buffer from the walls. Many families switch to sleeping pads specifically to gain tent flexibility. #### Can a family tent be too big? Yes. Oversized cabin tents don’t fit on standard campsites, can’t handle wind as well as dome tents, take longer to pitch, and make it much harder to keep warm in cold weather since there’s more air space to heat. Get the size you need plus one size up for comfort  but resist the temptation to buy the largest tent on the market if you don’t genuinely need the space. --- ###### Image credits: “[The Tent, Waipu](https://www.flickr.com/photos/deeknow/13026451104/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [DeeKnow](https://www.flickr.com/people/deeknow/), “[Our Coleman Instant Tent](https://www.flickr.com/photos/mikenan1/6184538362/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Mikenan1](https://www.flickr.com/people/mikenan1/), “[Giant Tent](https://www.flickr.com/photos/irisphotos/9233735698/)” ([CC BY-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/2.0/)) by [osiristhe](https://www.flickr.com/people/irisphotos/) Sources: <https://www.reddit.com/r/CampingGear/comments/byohg1/help_deciding_on_family_tent/>, <https://www.reddit.com/r/CampingGear/comments/9wq6ih/tent_for_family_of_5/> ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** tents --- ### [Best Kitchen Tents for Camping 2026, Mom Tested Picks](https://momgoescamping.com/best-kitchen-tents-camping/) **Published:** May 9, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Cooking and eating can be one of the best parts of camping but not if you have to do it while battling mosquitoes, getting drenched in the rain or standing under the hot sun.  That’s where kitchen tents come in. A lot of kitchen tents are actually pretty useless when it comes to things like keeping rain out.  So, it’s important to understand your options and whether they will actually work for your style of camping.  I’ll go over my picks for best camping kitchen tents, as well as advice for how to pick the right kitchen tent. ## Quick Picks: - **Best Overall: [Eureka! Northern Breeze](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08QRMMN9D?&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=cef3eca08441f96cdce26cd517f75f8e&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl).** It can be used as a just a canopy or a screen room and does a great job of keeping you dry. Too bad it is so expensive! - **Runner Up: [Coleman Back Home](https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Back-Home-Instant-Screenhouse/dp/B00339C3FA?pd_rd_w=ESaLp&pf_rd_p=8ca997d7-1ea0-4c8f-9e14-a6d756b83e30&pf_rd_r=JC49SXB3H0GGY0AGR4HY&pd_rd_r=f4f2a888-cf9e-496f-86d2-0d57836f6c4b&pd_rd_wg=8DP8W&pd_rd_i=B01MA2XTG3&th=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=2f533c2a543ed360f16cf2768a74415f&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl).** An affordable, sturdy screen tent with a waterproof roof and vertical mesh walls for keeping (most) rain out. It’s VERY heavy though. - **Third pick: [Campros Octagon Screen House](https://www.amazon.com/CAMPROS-Screened-Shelter-Gazebos-Activities/dp/B08TH4SQ5J?th=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=ab0390dc7a84031de2b38e44ea814fb4&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl)**. It’s affordable, spacious and lightweight, but the slanted mesh walls means everything gets wet inside when it rains. ## Comparison Table \[table id=60 /\] **Also read:** - [Best Portable Camping Kitchens](https://momgoescamping.com/best-portable-camping-kitchens/) - [Camping Kitchen Essentials Checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-kitchen-essentials-list/) ## Best Kitchen Tents, Reviewed ### 1. Eureka! Northern Breeze Double-Wall Screen Tent with Awnings ![eureka northern breeze kitchen screen tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/eureka-northern-breeze-kitchen-screen-tent.jpg "eureka northern breeze kitchen screen tent - Mom Goes Camping") #### **Specs:** - **Sizes:** 12×12 and 10×10 feet + 4 awnings - **Height:** 97 inches/ 91 inches - **Weight**: 27lbs 13oz/24lbs 12oz - **Packs down to:** 14×36 inches/12×32 inches - **Doors:** 2 - **Cost**: $$$$$ - **Buy At**: [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08QRMMN9D?&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=cef3eca08441f96cdce26cd517f75f8e&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) #### Review: The Eureka! Northern Breeze has the best design of any screen tent.  For starters, it has a sturdy construction that can handle bad weather.   It’s easy to setup (all clips; no annoying pole sleeves) and the tent is completely free-standing, though you should still stake out the guylines in case of windy weather.  There are two doors with a 6 foot walk-through. What makes it such a great kitchen tent though is that it a double-layer design: the walls roll up to expose the mesh and get ventilation.  If it rains, just roll down the walls and you are completely protected from all sides. You also have the option of extending the walls to make four awnings – meaning you can get an extra 6 feet of sun protection in any direction.  It only comes with three awning poles though, so you’ll need to get your own if you want to extend all the awnings at once. It’s just too bad that this screen tent is so expensive!  Eureka also makes a [cheaper version of the screen house](https://amzn.to/3PiQ8nQ) but it is much smaller and doesn’t have the closable walls for weather protection. **Get it here at [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08QRMMN9D?&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=cef3eca08441f96cdce26cd517f75f8e&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl)** --- ### 2. Coleman Back Home Hexagon Instant Screen House ![Coleman Back Home screen kitchen tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/coleman-screen-home.jpg "coleman screen home - Mom Goes Camping") **Best for:** Spacious, affordable screen house which sets up easily and decent enough rain protection #### **Specs:** - **Size:** 12×10 feet - **Height:** 100 inches - **Weight:** 45lbs - **Packs down to:** 1x1x4 feet - **Doors**: 2 - **Cost**: $$ - **Buy At:** [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Back-Home-Instant-Screenhouse/dp/B00339C3FA?pd_rd_w=ESaLp&pf_rd_p=8ca997d7-1ea0-4c8f-9e14-a6d756b83e30&pf_rd_r=JC49SXB3H0GGY0AGR4HY&pd_rd_r=f4f2a888-cf9e-496f-86d2-0d57836f6c4b&pd_rd_wg=8DP8W&pd_rd_i=B01MA2XTG3&th=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=2f533c2a543ed360f16cf2768a74415f&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) #### **Review:** The size and setup of the Coleman Back Home screen house are great.  It is sturdy enough to handle wind and the poles are good quality.  Because the walls are completely vertical, they do a good job of keeping most rain out (rain will still blow in through the screen in storms).   I also like that the tent has a skirt to help keep muddy puddles out. The major flaw of this kitchen tent is that it is heavy and massive when packed up.  It takes up 4 feet of space and weighs 45lbs.  It does come with a wheeled carry case, but the wheels aren’t going to work on bumpy ground or sand – so you might have to lug it a bit. [**Get It Here**](https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Back-Home-Instant-Screenhouse/dp/B00339C3FA?pd_rd_w=ESaLp&pf_rd_p=8ca997d7-1ea0-4c8f-9e14-a6d756b83e30&pf_rd_r=JC49SXB3H0GGY0AGR4HY&pd_rd_r=f4f2a888-cf9e-496f-86d2-0d57836f6c4b&pd_rd_wg=8DP8W&pd_rd_i=B01MA2XTG3&th=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=2f533c2a543ed360f16cf2768a74415f&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) --- ### 3. REI Screen House with Rain Fly ![REI Screen House kitchen tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/rei-screen-house-kitchen-tent.jpg "rei screen house kitchen tent - Mom Goes Camping") #### **Specs:** - **Size:** 10×10 feet + awning - **Height**: 84 inches - **Weight**: 13lbs + 3lbs 10oz - **Packs down to**: 9×29 inches - **Doors**: 2 - **Cost**: $$$$ - **Buy At**: [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Drei%2Bscreen%2Bhouse%26pagesize%3D90) #### **Review:** The REI Screen House consists of two parts (sold separately).  The first is the actual screen house, which is 10×10 feet and has two doors.  It’s lightweight and packs down much smaller than most other screen houses. Because the roof of the Screen House isn’t waterproof, the second part is the Rain Fly.  It not only covers the roof, but also has an awning.  When the awning is down, it will protect one side from rain. I’m not sure why REI didn’t make at least *two awnings.* The way it is now, you have to put the awning over one of the entranceways.  This means you can’t close the awning (to protect gear from rain on one side) without blocking the entrance.   If you are already paying this much for a kitchen tent, you might as well spring for the Eureka! Northern Breeze which has awnings on all sides.  Or get a cheaper screen tent with vertical sides and clip some plastic sheeting to the sides in the rain. **[Get It Here](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Drei%2Bscreen%2Bhouse%26pagesize%3D90)** --- ### 5. Coleman Instant Canopy ![Coleman Instant canopy kitchen tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/coleman-instant-canopy-kitchen-tent.jpg "coleman instant canopy kitchen tent - Mom Goes Camping") **Best for:** Sun and some rain protection #### **Specs:** - **Size**: 10×10 and 12×12 feet - **Height**: 100 inches/112 inches - **Weight**: 45lbs/50lbs - **Packs down to**: About 1×4.5 feet - **Doors**: N/A - **Cost**: $$ - **Buy At**: [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-2000012221-Instant-Canopy-Feet/dp/B0038XPNPS?th=1&psc=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=f7055b5b6f9fd3fbaeb7fa8e49dabbc8&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) #### **Review:** If your main concern is sun protection, this canopy by Coleman is a good option.  It comes in three sizes: 7×5, 10×10 and 12×12.  I didn’t even bother to include the 7×5 size.  It’s so small that you won’t get adequate shade and your gear will get wet even if you push it all to the middle of the tent. The 10×10 and 12×12 sizes are large enough that you will get some rain protection in bad weather.  Because the frame is sturdy, you can even use binder clips to attach some plastic sheeting to the sides for protection. Setting up and taking down the canopy is easy.  You can do it yourself with some practice, but it’s better with 2 or 3 people to help.  It is very heavy but does come in a convenient carry case on wheels.  There are handles too so you can carry it over rough terrain. **[Get It Here](https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-2000012221-Instant-Canopy-Feet/dp/B0038XPNPS?th=1&psc=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=f7055b5b6f9fd3fbaeb7fa8e49dabbc8&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl)** --- ### 6. Hasika Shade Awning [![Car Camping Shade Awning Canopy for 8-10 Person Family Party Tent Picnic,BBQ,Friends Gathering Waterproof Lightweight Easy Setup 15 * 10 FT](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/413xbB6Pr9L._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T21S187?tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) **Best for:** Weather protection but no mosquito protection #### **Specs:** - **Size**: 15×10 feet - **Height**: 78 inches - **Weight**: 17lbs - **Packs down to:** 25x9x9 inches - **Doors**: 8 - **Cost**: $$ - **Buy At**: [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/Hasika-Waterproof-Portable-Camping-Trailer/dp/B07T21S187?&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=6abb207c5ff001b160809de61c4cfc1f&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) #### **Review:** This kitchen tent by Hasika is a bit different than other canopies.  It is a tunnel-tent design (see [the 10 types of tents](https://momgoescamping.com/types-camping-tents-with-photos/) here), which means it does have to be staked out in a zillion places to stay upright.  If you don’t do it well (it might take some practice), the tent won’t hold up well in wind.  Once properly staked out though, you end up with a very long tent with lots of interior space. There are 8 doors on the tent (3 on each long side and 1 on each end).  You can close the doors to make a waterproof space inside.  Note that only one door has a zipper.  The other doors close with Velcro, so some water will leak through in heavy rains.  It’s pretty good in light rains though. The tent is pretty cheap, so it’s no surprise that the material is flimsy.  A lot of people had the one zipper break on them too.  But, overall, it’s a good solution for hanging out and eating inside – so long as you practice setting it up! **[Get It Here](https://www.amazon.com/Hasika-Waterproof-Portable-Camping-Trailer/dp/B07T21S187?&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=6abb207c5ff001b160809de61c4cfc1f&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl)** --- ### 7. Campros Octagon Screen House [![CAMPROS CP Screen House 13 x 13 Ft Screened Mesh Net Wall Canopy Tent Screen Shelter Gazebos for Patios Outdoor Camping Activities - Beige](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41-HpfLh+eL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08TH4SQ5J?tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) **Best for:** Not as good as the Coleman Back Home, but lighter and packs smaller **Specs:** - **Size**: 13×13 feet - **Height**: 86 inches - **Weight**: 22.5lbs - **Packs down to:** 25x9x9 inches - **Doors**: 2 - **Cost**: $$ - **Buy At:** [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/CAMPROS-Screened-Shelter-Gazebos-Activities/dp/B08TH4SQ5J?th=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=ab0390dc7a84031de2b38e44ea814fb4&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) #### **Review:** Campros makes a lot of affordable (I hesitate to call it “cheap”) tents which are “good enough.”  This screen house definitely falls into the “good enough” category. On the plus side, it is spacious and sets up easily.  I like the two doors which open almost all the way up.  The octagon shape is also nice for fitting a picnic table in or having groups sit around a smaller table.   Along with the 8 side poles, there are 6 roof poles, so the screen tent is actually pretty sturdy.  It packs down smaller and is lighter than a lot of comparable screen tents. As for the bad, the walls are not completely vertical.  While the top of the tent is waterproof and will keep the interior dry in light rains.  But, in heavy rains, the water will flow down the roof and onto the screen sides.  Water WILL get into the tent.  The rain skirt around the bottom is kind of useless since the rain will fall inside of it.  The entranceways are also fairly short, so it’s not great for really tall people. **[Get It Here](https://www.amazon.com/CAMPROS-Screened-Shelter-Gazebos-Activities/dp/B08TH4SQ5J?th=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=ab0390dc7a84031de2b38e44ea814fb4&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl)** --- ### 8. Core Instant Screen House ![Core Instant Screen Room kitchen tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/core-instant-kitchen-tent.jpg "core instant kitchen tent - Mom Goes Camping")*10×10 shown above 12×10 below* **Best for:** A rectangular instant screen tent, which doesn’t weigh a ton #### **Specs:** - **Sizes**: 12×10 and 10×10 feet - **Height**: 84 inches - **Weight**: 27lbs/17.5lbs - **Packs down to:** 47x10x10 inches/ 50x7x7 inches - **Doors**: 2 - **Cost**: $$ - **Buy At:** [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/CORE-Instant-Screen-House-Canopy/dp/B07DJZVQVJ?th=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=c750a0ea257abfd4645e5c6d47a7bb0a&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) #### Review: At first glance, this screen house seems like a really good option.  The instant setup with pre-attached poles is definitely a plus.   However, the Core instant screen house has slanted walls, so rain will rip off the roof and in through the mesh sides. The frame also isn’t the sturdiest.  That’s to be expected from a massive tent which only weighs 27lbs.  Despite being lightweight (or light-*ish),* the tent is massive when packed.  I’d rather get the Coleman Back Home tent (#3 pick).  But, if you really want a rectangular kitchen tent *and* instant setup, then this is a good option. **[Get It Here](https://www.amazon.com/CORE-Instant-Screen-House-Canopy/dp/B07DJZVQVJ?th=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=c750a0ea257abfd4645e5c6d47a7bb0a&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl)** --- ### 9. Campros Screen House [![CAMPROS CP Screen House 12 x 10 Ft Screened Mesh Net Wall Canopy Tent Screen Shelter Gazebos for Patios Outdoor Camping Activities - Blue](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/31g3dQa2NiL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08THFK63B?tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) **Best for:** Cheap, lightweight rectangular screen room for good weather only #### **Specs:** - **Size**: 12×10 feet - **Height**: 90 inches - **Weight**: 22.5lbs - **Packs down to**: 25x10x10 inches - **Doors**: 1 - **Cost**: $ - **Buy at**: [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/CAMPROS-Screened-Shelter-Gazebos-Activities/dp/B08THFK63B?th=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=8ddb6644a8ff05ef87b70d7d9f9a3518&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) #### Review: Here’s another screen room by Campros.  Unlike the other Campros tent (#7), this one has a rectangular shape.  It also has fewer poles so is easier to set up.  However, it is not nearly as sturdy as the one above.  This is because it only has 4 vertical poles instead of 8.  It has an extra pole at the top to keep the roof from sagging.  This pole fits into a little pocket on the roof.  The pocket will inevitably rip and it’s wobbly if you don’t stake the tent out perfectly. Because the tent walls aren’t vertical, it will get wet inside in even light rain.  If you want a good screen house, I’d say to stick with the Coleman Back Home screen room.   But, if it’s too heavy or you really want a rectangular screen house, then this is an okay kitchen tent for good weather camping. **[Get It Here](https://www.amazon.com/CAMPROS-Screened-Shelter-Gazebos-Activities/dp/B08THFK63B?th=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=8ddb6644a8ff05ef87b70d7d9f9a3518&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl)** --- ### 10. Ever Advanced Screen House [![EVER ADVANCED 12' x10' Screen House Tent Netted Canopy Mesh Tents for Camping 8-10 Person Sun Shelter](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/413FhQdOlKL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083M1TL6N?tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) **Best for:** Cheap screen house, but for good weather only! #### **Specs:** - **Size**: 12×10 feet - **Height**: 85 inches - **Weight**: 20lbs - **Packs down to**: 29x8x8 inches - **Doors**: 2 - **Cost**: $ - **Buy At:** [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/EVER-ADVANCED-Outdoor-Screened-Zippered/dp/B083M1TL6N?&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=97772519bcda180decc072406f91e2da&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) #### Review: The Ever Advanced screen house is one of the cheapest you will find.  Surprisingly though, the frame is actually pretty sturdy.  It has 6 vertical poles (many screen tents only have 4), so stands up well without sagging. There are two front doors right next to each other, but no doors on the sides or back. The doors do open completely. The clearance is about 70 inches, so it’s suitable for tall people. Note the top of the screen tent is NOT waterproof.  It offers zero rain protection.   If you only need a kitchen tent with mosquito protection and are on a budget, then choose this one. **[Get It Here](https://www.amazon.com/EVER-ADVANCED-Outdoor-Screened-Zippered/dp/B083M1TL6N?&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=97772519bcda180decc072406f91e2da&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl)** --- ### 11. TailGaterz Magnetic Screen House [![TAILGATERZ Magnetic Screen House, Game day Graphite, 11 x 9 x 7.5 feet, 4300614](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41+2lGoWjRL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KJNLYFS?tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1)![](https://ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&language=en_US&l=li3&o=1&a=B00KJNLYFS) **Best for:** Great screen house, just not for rain **Specs:** - **Size**: 11×9 feet - **Height**: 90” - **Weight**: 19lbs - **Packs down to**: 26x9x9 inches - **Doors**: 2 - **Cost**: $$ - **Buy At:** [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/Tailgaterz-4300614-Magnetic-Screen-House/dp/B00KJNLYFS?&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=a017619bde6d022c04c204a568412c67&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) #### **Review:** The roof of this screen tent isn’t waterproof, so it’s not suitable even for light rain.  However, if you only camp in good weather (or don’t mind setting a tarp up over it), there’s a lot of love about this screen tent. For starters, the magnetic doors are really useful.  They are much easier to use than zipper doors – especially if you are entering/leaving with your hands full.  You also won’t have to keep reminding your children to zip the doors so insects don’t get in.   The size is also practical for cooking and eating inside. While not an instant tent, it’s pretty easy to set up the screen tent.   However, it is definitely not the sturdiest.  There are only four side poles – which isn’t much for a tent this size. To keep the roof from sagging, there is an extra top pole that fits into a little pocket.  Lots of tents have this design and the pocket inevitably rips.  It also wobbles around if you don’t stake it out properly. **[Get It Here](https://www.amazon.com/Tailgaterz-4300614-Magnetic-Screen-House/dp/B00KJNLYFS?&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=a017619bde6d022c04c204a568412c67&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl)** --- ## Advice for Choosing a Kitchen Tent ### What Size Kitchen Tent? A typical picnic table is up to 96 inches long and 30 inches wide.   Assuming that you want your kitchen tent to fit over a picnic table, it will need to be bigger than this.  Add an extra 24 inches on ALL sides for walking room and that means you need a kitchen tent which is at least 144 inches x 78 inches (12×6.5 feet). If you are using a small table inside the kitchen tent, then you can get away with a small size.  But I’ve found that smaller kitchen tents are kind of useless.  If you can’t hang out in the tent, you won’t actually use it. As for height, you’ll need a tent which is at least 6-7 feet tall if you want to cook in it.  If you only want to eat in it, then a slightly shorter tent is okay – but it will still be annoying if you can’t stand up inside. ### Types of Kitchen Tents Before you choose a kitchen tent, make sure you understand the types – especially the protection offered. Depending on the type, a kitchen tent can protect against sun, rain and mosquitoes.  **Important**: **rain never really falls straight down**.  It will blow into the kitchen tent from the sides, getting everything along the edges wet.  If you need protection against bad weather, the kitchen tent will need to have walls. **Pro Tip:** You can hang plastic sheeting on the sides of your screen tent to block rain from the sides.  Binder clips work for this. #### Tarp Kitchen [![camping kitchen tarp](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/camping-kitchen-tarp.jpg "camping kitchen tarp - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/camping-kitchen-tarp.jpg) A tarp is by far the cheapest option for a kitchen tent.  They come in different sizes and can be configured in many ways. - **Cheap** - **Protects against sun and rain** - **Can configure to block rain from sides too** - **No mosquito protection** - **Tricky to set up** - **Need trees to set up** **Also read: [27 ways to set up a tarp shelter](https://momgoescamping.com/tarp-shelters/)** #### Shelter or Canopy [![canopy camp kitchen tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/canopy-camp-kitchen-tent.jpg "canopy camp kitchen tent - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/canopy-camp-kitchen-tent.jpg) Canopies are a very simple kitchen tent.  They have a pole system that supports a roof and nothing more. - **Affordable** - **Have poles so can set up anywhere** - **Easy setup** - **Protect against sun and rain from above** - **No mosquito protection** - **Rain from sides will blow in** #### Screen House Tent [![camp kitchen mesh screen tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/camp-kitchen-mesh-screen-tent.jpg "camp kitchen mesh screen tent - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/camp-kitchen-mesh-screen-tent.jpg) Also called a screen room or screen tent, these are basically canopies with mesh walls. They are easy to set up and protect from sun, rain, and mosquitoes.  **Like with a canopy, rain will still come in from the sides.** - **Have poles so can set up anywhere** - **Easy setup** - **Roof isn’t always waterproof** - **Mosquito protection** - **Rain from sides will blow in** #### Double-Wall Screen Rooms [![double wall camp kitchen tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/double-wall-camp-kitchen-tent.jpg "double wall camp kitchen tent - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/double-wall-camp-kitchen-tent.jpg) Some screen rooms have an extra layer.  In nice weather, you can roll up the layer to create a screen room.  If it starts raining, you roll down the layers to block rain from getting inside.   **This is by far the best design for a kitchen tent.** And remember that you shouldn’t ever cook inside a tent which is completely zipped up. - **Have poles so can set up anywhere** - **Easy setup** - **Protect against sun** - **Protects against rain from above *and* sides** - **Mosquito protection** - **Versatile design** - **Often heavy and bulky** - **Can be expensive** ## Vertical Walls vs. Slanted Walls When choosing a kitchen tent, pay attention to the wall configuration.  If the mesh walls aren’t completely vertical, it means that rain from the roof will drip onto them and fall into the tent. Even with vertical mesh walls, some rain is going to get into the tent. But a LOT more rain will end up inside the tent if the walls are slanted as opposed to vertical. ### Kitchen Tent Features These are some nice features to have on a kitchen tent. - **Rain skirt:** This is a layer of waterproof material around the bottom of the tarp. It helps keep rain and mud from getting into the tent in bad weather. - **Big doors:** It will be much easier to get inside or bring things like chairs inside. - **Pole clips:** These are much easier and faster to set up than tents which use pole sleeves. - **Awning:** I love this feature on kitchen tents because it creates another shaded area. When the awning is closed, it keeps rain from getting into the tent (from one side at least). ## **Kitchen Tent FAQ:** **Can you cook inside a kitchen tent?** You can cook *under* a kitchen tent, but never inside one that’s fully closed up. Camp stoves and grills release carbon monoxide, which is odorless and deadly in an enclosed space. Only cook when the walls are rolled up or the mesh sides allow full airflow  a screen house or open canopy is fine, a zipped-shut tent is not. Keep flames away from the fabric, too. **How do you keep rain out of a screen tent?** The single biggest factor is wall angle. Vertical mesh walls keep far more rain out than slanted ones, where water runs off the roof straight onto the screen and inside. For real weather protection, choose a double-wall design (like the Eureka Northern Breeze) where you roll solid walls down over the mesh. On a budget screen tent, you can clip plastic sheeting to the windward side with binder clips. **What size kitchen tent do I need?** If you want it to cover a standard picnic table (about 96″ × 30″), add 24 inches on every side for walking room so roughly 12 × 6.5 feet minimum. For cooking, you’ll want at least 6–7 feet of height so you can stand. Smaller kitchen tents tend to go unused because you can’t comfortably hang out in them. **Do kitchen tents keep mosquitoes out?** Screen houses and double-wall screen rooms do. Plain canopies and tarps offer sun and rain protection but no bug protection, since they have no mesh walls. --- Image credits: “[Refuge in camp](https://www.flickr.com/photos/blmalaska/50925941718/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [BLM Alaska](https://www.flickr.com/people/blmalaska/), “[Camping at First Landing State Park](https://www.flickr.com/photos/vastateparksstaff/16264490248/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [vastateparksstaff](https://www.flickr.com/people/vastateparksstaff/), “[DSC\_0005](https://www.flickr.com/photos/twobears2/4964247155/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [tracie7779](https://www.flickr.com/people/twobears2/), “[Camp Kitchen](https://www.flickr.com/photos/laurelfan/5883441956/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [Laurel Fan](https://www.flickr.com/people/laurelfan/) “[misty morning campsite](https://www.flickr.com/photos/giffordclan/5379438680/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [behang](https://www.flickr.com/people/giffordclan/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** kitchen --- ### [Best Budget Ultralight Backpacks (Which Actually Hold Up)](https://momgoescamping.com/best-budget-ultralight-backpacks/) **Published:** May 26, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** If you are ready to upgrade to an ultralight backpack, you’ll quickly realize that most UL packs are EXPENSIVE.  An UL pack from a well-known brand can easily cost more than $300.  There’s generally a good reason why ultralight gear costs so much: lightweight materials which can handle abuse are not cheap! Because of this, there are only a handful of budget-friendly ultralight backpacks worth recommending.  And even these won’t hold up as well as packs made by brands like Hyperlite Mountain Gear, Palante Packs and Gossamer Gear.   But the ones recommended here are *nearly* as good as those expensive packs but cost a fraction of the price. ## Budget Ultralight Backpack Comparison | Pack | Capacity | Weight | Frame | Pockets | Best For | Buy | |---|---|---|---|---|---|---| | **3F UL QiDian Pro** | 40+16L | 31oz | Pad as frame | 5 external | Hardcore UL hikers who use a foam pad | [AliExpress](https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DFyjE85) | | **Naturehike 40+5L** | 40+5L | 44oz | Internal frame | 6 external | Heavier loads, more support needed | [Amazon](https://amzn.to/42ZAlNX) | | **Granite Gear Crown 2 60L** | 60L | 27.6–30.8oz\* | Removable frame | Multiple | Best all-rounder — light and heavy loads | [Amazon](https://amzn.to/4u0a39n) | | **Granite Gear Virga 2** | 50–58L | 18–20oz | Frameless | 3 external | Minimalist UL hikers, base weight under 10lbs | [Amazon](https://amzn.to/4wSQNwW) | | **Homiee 50L** | 52L | 28.8oz | Frameless | 4 external | Petite hikers (under 5’5″) on tightest budget | [Amazon](https://amzn.to/4dGHVlq) | *\*Granite Gear Crown 2 minimum weight without frame sheet and lid. Full weight with frame and lid: 36.2–39.4oz depending on torso size.* ## Save On Other Gear, Not Your Pack I firmly believe that backpacking (even UL backpacking) does not have to be expensive. But, when on a budget, the pack is going to be the last place I’d want to skimp on. Your pack, after all, is what ultimately keeps you comfortable while trekking over long distances and hard terrain.  And, since organization is important to me, I’d happily pay extra for a pack with extra pockets and exterior straps. Remember, it’s fairly easy to find used UL backpacks (check [Gear Trade](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=10dabcfb-7353-4c86-90cb-8159589e15c9&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.geartrade.com%2F)) and places like  [REI also has a used gear section](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fused%2Fshop%2Fcamping-hiking). Plus, buying secondhand is better for the environment.   So shop secondhand first and only buy a cheap UL pack if you can’t find a good used one. ## UL Pack Size? When upgrading to ultralight backpacking gear, **your pack is the absolute last thing you should buy.**  First upgrade your other key gear.  Only then will you know how large of a pack you need to fit all your gear. Hardcore UL backpackers usually use a pack around 40L.   But, if you need to fit a bear canister in your pack, you’ll probably need at least 50L. I’m a big fan of mesh pockets and exterior straps.  These will let you attach a lot of gear to the exterior of your pack in case you need the extra space. ## Frame or No Frame? Most ultralight backpacks do not have a frame.  If you are truly ultralight (total pack weight with consumables under 20lbs), then you probably don’t need a framed pack. But there are plenty of situations where your pack weight might get over 20lbs.  Like on longer trips where you can’t refuel.  Or when you backpack in shoulder season and need to bring a warmer sleeping bag and pad. The best solution would be to find a backpack with a removable frame. Then you could use the same pack for multiple gear loads.  Otherwise, you’ll need to buy *two* backpacks: one framed and one unframed.  It obviously costs more to buy two packs than one.  Hence why I said that your pack is the last place you should try to save money on.   It’s probably cheaper better to buy one pricier pack which is suitable for multiple conditions than two budget packs. ## Roll Top or Brain Top? Most ultralight backpacks, especially cheap ones, are roll-top.   Not having a “brain top” lid reduces weight.  Roll-tops have built-in compression, so they can accommodate different load sizes.  It also is cheaper to make/sew a roll-top pack than one with a lid. Personally prefer having a brain top, even if it adds weight.  I like the extra organization and accessibility it offers.  I also like that I can keep things like my jacket underneath the lid.   But I often have a lot of random small gear that I need to access since I do “projects” while hiking. However, for most UL hikers, having a brain top isn’t necessary.  Everything you need during the day can be kept in exterior pockets. And you probably just dump everything out of your pack when you reach camp anyway, so it doesn’t matter that it’s difficult to dig anything out of a roll-top pack. Granite Gear does have some packs with removable brain top lids.  This gives you the best of both worlds. ## Best Cheap Ultralight Backpacks ### 1. 3F UL QiDian Backpack ![3ful quidian ultralight backpack budget](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/3ful-quidian-ultralight-backpack-budget.jpg "3ful quidian ultralight backpack budget - Mom Goes Camping") The brand 3F has actually been around for longer than a lot of “established’ UL gear brands.  Their products are cheap but actually well-made, so it’s no surprise that the QiDian UL backpack has a huge fan base. What’s unique about the QiDian pack is that it has a pocket on the torso area for holding a folded foam pad.  The pad then acts as a frame for the pack. You are either going to love or hate this setup – and it does mean that you have to use a zig-zag pad.  If you decide to cut the pad or want an air mattress, the QiDian pack might not fit you well anymore. There are two versions of the UL pack.  The original is cheaper and made from slightly flimslier material.  The Pro version is made from more durable material and has S curve shoulder straps. **Specs/Features:** - **Capacity:** 40+16L - **Pack Weight:** 30oz (original), 31oz (Pro) - **Max Load:** 26.5lbs (original), 30lbs (Pro) - **Frame:** Uses pad as frame - **Pockets:** 5 external pockets - **Dimensions:** 31.5 (H) x 11.8 (L) x 8.7 (W) inches - **Fits Users:** 5’5” to 6’2”; waistline 28” - **Buy At:** [Aliexpress](https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DFyjE85) \*Read my [guide to buying backpacking gear from Aliexpress](https://momgoescamping.com/buying-backpacking-gear-aliexpress/) --- ### 2. Naturehike 40+5 and 60+5 Pack ![Naturehike ultralight backpack](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/naturehike-UL-backpack-60-5.jpg "naturehike UL backpack 60 + 5 - Mom Goes Camping") Naturehike is a Chinese brand which is known for making cheap UL gear which surprisingly can withstand abuse.  I have several of their tents and particularly love the [Cloudup](https://momgoescamping.com/naturehike-cloudup-2-review/). While I haven’t tried it myself, a lot of backpackers swear by the Naturehike UL pack.  Unlike many other UL packs, this one actually has an internal frame.  Because of that, it’s a bit heavier at 44oz for the smaller size and 47oz for the larger size. **Specs:** - **Capacity:** 40+5L/60+5L - **Pack Weight:** 44oz/47oz - **Max Load:** 24lbs/30.8lbs - **Frame:** Internal frame - **Pockets:** 6 external pockets - **Dimensions:** 22 (H) x 10.2 (L) x 7 (W)/26 (H) x 10.2 (L) x 7 (W) - **Fits Users:** 5’3″-5’7″ and 121-155lbs/ 5’7″-5’11”, and 143-177lbs - **Buy At:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/42ZAlNX) (40L version only), [AliExpress](https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DEdwLe9) --- ### 3. Granite Gear Crown 2 60L  (Men and Women’s Fits) ![granite gear Crown 60 mens and womens ultralight budget backpack](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/granite-gear-mens-without-lid-and-womens-next-to-it.jpg "granite gear mens without lid and womens next to it - Mom Goes Camping") The Crown 2 60L pack by Granite Gear is an awesome option for people who are just starting with UL gear and/or still occasionally carry heavy loads. What’s cool about the pack is that it has a modular design.  You can remove the top lid (2.56oz) and then use it as a roll-top.  If your load isn’t heavy, you can remove the frame sheet (6.08oz) from the pack to save weight.  It’s also possible to remove the hip belt, but I wouldn’t recommend doing that! I also love that the pack comes in 3 torso lengths AND there’s a women’s fit version which has 2 torso lengths. **Specs:** - **Men’s Short:** - Torso Length: 15-18” - Pack Weight (with frame sheet and lid): 36.2oz - Minimum Pack Weight (w/o frame and lid): 27.6oz - **Men’s Regular:** - Torso Length: 18-21” - Pack Weight (with frame sheet and lid): 37.8oz - Minimum Pack Weight (w/o frame and lid): 29.2oz - **Men’s Long:** - Torso Length: 21-24” - Pack Weight (with frame sheet and lid): 39.4oz - Minimum Pack Weight (w/o frame and lid): 30.8oz - **Women’s Short:** - Torso Length: 15-18” - Pack Weight (with frame sheet and lid): 36.2oz - Minimum Pack Weight (w/o frame and lid): 23.5oz - **Women’s Regular:** - Torso Length: 18-21” - Pack Weight (with frame sheet and lid): 37.8oz - Minimum Pack Weight (w/o frame and lid): 29.2oz \*If you are willing to spend a bit more, the Crown 3 has an optional aluminum stay frame for holding heavier loads.  This makes it more versatile so you can get more use out of the  pack. **Available At: [Amazon](https://amzn.to/4u0a39n)** --- ### 4. Granite Gear Virga 2 ![Granite Gear Virga 2 Backpack - Tiger/Moonmist 52L Regular](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41taZ2vN-wL._SL500_.jpg) Granite Gear also makes the Virga 2 ultralight backpack, which is currently very cheap.   At 52L, it’s large enough to hold a 3-gallon Bear Vault sideways.   Personally, I don’t like this UL pack as much as the other ones.  It doesn’t have as many features (like pockets) and the hip belt is really narrow. There is no maximum load listed for the Virga 2.  But users say that you need to keep it under 20lbs.  The pack does not do well with heavier loads! On the plus side, the Virga 2 currently costs under $100 and weighs in at under 19oz (regular size). There are also short and long sizes too. **Specs/Features:** - **Capacity:** 50L/54L/58L (Short/Reg/Long) - **Pack Weight:** 18oz**/**19oz/20oz - **Max Load:** N/G - **Frame:** Frameless - **Pockets:** 3 external pockets - **Dimensions:** 26 (H) x 12.75 (L) x 14 (W) (Regular) - **Fits Users:** Torso length 15-18”/18-21”/21-24” - **Buy At:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/4wSQNwW) --- ### 5. Homiee 50L Pack [![HOMIEE 50L Hiking Backpack Travel Bag Waterproof Camping Climbing Daypack Outdoor Sports Rucksack Backpacks with Rain Cover](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41C2M5gDsvL._SL500_.jpg)](https://amzn.to/45u7Gk7) This is probably the cheapest ultralight backpack you can find, and it surprisingly has a lot of awesome features.  I especially love all of the straps for hanging gear.  I love that it’s a lidded pack and not a roll-top. There is an internal divider for dirty gear too. But, not too surprisingly, the **Homiee UL pack is not durable**.  It seems to do well enough if you keep the weight *very* low.  But, if you load up more than 15-20lbs on the pack, the stitching on the straps starts to come undone.  Expect to do some sewing repairs! Another issue is that the pack isn’t really designed for distribute weight well.  There aren’t load lifter straps and the padding isn’t the best.  But, then again, it is an insanely cheap UL backpack.  You get what you pay for. Also note that this pack is for really petite backpackers.  The total height of the pack is just under 27 inches.  The sternum strap will hit you at a low place if you are tall.  I wouldn’t recommend this pack if you are over 5’5” tall. **Specs/Features:** - **Capacity:** 52L - **Pack Weight:** 28.8oz - **Max Load:** 44lbs (not advised!) - **Frame:** Frameless - **Pockets:** 4 external pockets - **Dimensions:** 26.7 (H) x 14 (L) x 9.4 (W) inches - **Fits Users:** 5’5” to 6’2”; waistline 28” - **Buy At:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/4dGHVlq) ## Budget Ultralight Backpack FAQ: What size ultralight backpack do I need? Most hardcore ultralight backpackers use a pack around 40 liters. If you need to fit a bear canister, plan on at least 50 liters. Buy your pack last upgrade your other gear first, since only then will you know how much space you actually need. Mesh pockets and exterior straps add flexible capacity without adding much weight. Do ultralight backpacks have frames? Most don’t. If your total pack weight with food and water stays under 20 lbs, you generally don’t need a frame. For heavier loads longer carries between resupplies, or shoulder-season trips with warmer gear  look for a pack with a removable frame so one pack can handle both situations. ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** backpacks, ultralight --- ### [Best Lightweight Tripods for Backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/lightweight-backpacking-tripods/) **Published:** March 24, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** My husband is a photographer and I’m a lightweight backpacker, which are two things that don’t go well together. When we started going on backpacking trips together, we’d inevitably get into arguments about packing: “*You’re really packing a 5lb tripod and all that other gear!?”*  Meanwhile, I was dehydrating toothpaste to shed weight from my pack! Read more about camping gear below: - [How to Carry a Camera While Hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-carry-camera-hiking/) - [Ultralight Backpacking Tips for Beginners](https://momgoescamping.com/ultralight-backpacking-tips/) - [Hiking Poles: Pros and Cons](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-poles-pros-cons/) Over the years, we’ve learned to balance my ultralight backpacker mentality with his need for photo gear. We did this by planning trips better so he only took the gear which he really needed, and by upgrading to lightweight photo gear.  Of these, the most crucial was an ultralight tripod. Here are some of the best lightweight backpacking tripods. The lightest is just 4.2oz. **Jump to:** - [How to choose a lightweight tripod](#choose) - [Best lightweight tripods](#best-light-tripods) 1. [Sirui T-025X](#T-025X) 2. [Ultralight Trekking Pole Tripod](#trailpix) 3. [Manfrotto Elements Traveler](#elements) 4. [MeFoto RoadTrip S](#roadtrip) 5. [Sirui AM-223](#am-223) 6. [Slik Mini Pro V](#mini-pro-v) 7. [Pedco Ultrapod II](#ultrapod) \[table id=27 /\] \[sta\_anchor id=”choose” /\] ## Tips for Choosing a Lightweight Backpacking Tripod Most tripods aren’t anywhere near the traditional definition of “ultralight,” especially if you want to use proper gear on them.  However, it is possible to find lightweight tripods which can still perform. Here’s what you need to look for. ### How Light Can You Realistically Go? There are actually a lot of lightweight tripods out there. However, many didn’t make this list of best lightweight tripods because they have low max loads and are instability, making them practically useless for most backpacking photography. ### Max Load Lightweight tripods generally have very low maximum load weights. Some can only handle a few pounds.  Do you really want to trust expensive gear on a flimsy tripod? Aside from the risk of the entire tripod collapsing, there’s the issue of vibration.  If you are shooting at longer focal lengths (which also probably means a heavy lens), those tiny vibrations will matter.  What’s the point of bringing gear if it doesn’t serve your needs? Remember: **No matter how lightweight the tripod is, it’s *dead* weight if it doesn’t serve its purpose!** What max load should you get? As a general rule, aim for a max load which is 3x the weight of your camera, lens, and tripod head. ### Wind Stability Regardless of what the advertised max load is, a lot of lightweight tripods simply aren’t built to handle wind. It might only take a strong gust of wind to knock your tripod over, potentially destroying a lot of expensive gear in the process! **Tips:** - Wind speed is lower when you get close to the ground. Consider a short or tabletop tripod if going somewhere very windy. - Tilt the camera over one of the tripod legs. This will give it extra stability against wind. ### Ballast Hooks A lot of lightweight tripods have ballast hooks so you can weigh them down.  In theory this is supposed to make them more stable in windy weather. Don’t rely too much on ballast hooks for stability though! **The weight on the ballast hook cannot exceed the max load of the tripod.**  So, you can’t hang 10lbs to stabilize an UL tripod with a max load of 6lbs. Adding weight in windy weather can also backfire.  The weight hanging from the ballast hook starts to whip around and cause vibrations. It’s better to carry a heavier, more stable tripod than one which will be useless in wind. **Tips:** - **Ballast hooks are great for keeping gear off the ground.** This is the real reason you should want a ballast hook – not for stability. - **Use the rope trick.** Tie a piece of rope from the ballast hook which is long enough to drag on the ground.  Then you can step on the rope to pull it taught and stabilize the camera. ### Carbon Fiber Is the Way to Go Yes, carbon fiber versions of tripods are a lot more expensive than the aluminum versions.  But it’s worth the cost for backpacking: - **Lighter:** You can save a lot of weight by going with carbon fiber without scarifying stability. - **Handles abuse better:** Carbon fiber is better at resisting corrosion, water damage, and scratching. This matters when backpacking! - **More stable:** Because carbon fiber is stiffer than aluminum, it is more stable. This allows you to have a 4-section tripod without getting vibration noise. ### Center Column A tripod with a center column allows to you to get more height.  However, the drawback is using the center column will make the camera less steady and more prone to vibration.  It’s generally nice to have the option of a center column though as you can use it if you really need the height.  With some tripods, like the Sirui 0-25x, you can even remove the center column.  This saves you weight on trips where you won’t need it. ### Tripod Height When it comes to weight, tabletop tripods are the way to go.  However, backpackers always need to balance out the need to go UL with convenience.  Do you really want to crouch down on the ground every time you need to take a shot? Will having a low tabletop tripod cause you to miss certain shots? Will you be able to angle your camera up at the sky on a tabletop tripod? As I’ve repeated multiple times: **if gear doesn’t do what it’s supposed to, it’s dead weight**.  Better to carry a heavier full-length tripod than deal with a tabletop tripod if it won’t suit your needs. \[sta\_anchor id=”best-light-tripods” /\] ## Best Lightweight Backpacking Tripods \[sta\_anchor id=”t-025x” unsan=”T-025X” /\] ### 1. Sirui T-025X ![Sirui T-025X backpacking tripod](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/sirui-t-025x.jpg "sirui t 025x - Mom Goes Camping")![](//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&l=am2&o=1&a=B00BFDETS0) **Quick Specs:** - **Material:**  Carbon fiber - **Weight with Ball Head:** 2lbs - **Max Load:** 13.2lbs - **Collapsed Size:** 12.2” - **Min-Max Height:** 4.1”-58” - **Ballast Hook:** Yes - **Locks:** Twist - **Leg Sections:** 5 - **Ball head Included:** Yes - **Spiked feet:** No - **[Buy here](https://amzn.to/2WcXLhL)** The Sirui T-025x has been on the market for years now but it still remains the top tripod with many backpackers, especially those using lightweight mirrorless cameras.  The tripod is also suitable for lighter DSLR cameras too. The main perk of the Sirui T-025x is it weighs just 2lbs with the included Acra-Swiss compatible C-10X ball head.  You can even remove the center column to make the tripod even lighter if you don’t mind sacrificing 10 inches of height. Even though it’s such a lightweight tripod and has 5 leg sections, the T-025x is very stable.  It is made of eight layers of carbon fiber.  It’s great for nightscape shooting and long exposures, even with wind. ![siruix 025x tripod for backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/sirui-025x-1.jpg "sirui 025x 1 - Mom Goes Camping") ![siruix 025x tripod for backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/siruix-025x-2.jpg "siruix 025x 2 - Mom Goes Camping") Another reason backpackers love this tripod is because it packs up so compact.  The legs flip upwards 180 degrees so they sit along the main column. To set up the tripod, you extend the legs down and they automatically lock in place. There is a locking system which lets you put the legs at 105, 130, or 190 degrees.   The legs can be set individually to different positions if you want.   The system is quick to use and very stable.  The only annoying thing is that the tripod has 5 leg sections, so it takes a bit longer to set up to maximum height.  That’s the price you pay for having a tripod which compacts down so small. Is the tripod perfect for backpacking?  No.  It would be nice if there was an option for spike feet instead of just rubber feet.  It would also be nice if one of the legs could be removed and used as a monopod. There’s also no bubble level.   However, this is still considered the best all-around lightweight tripod for backpacking as well as travel.  It’s not cheap, but it’s also affordable in “photo dollars.” ![photo with Sirui lightweight tripod](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/backpacking-photo.jpg "backpacking photo - Mom Goes Camping") *The image above was taken with a Fuji XT-1 with a 18-55 lens on the Sirui T-025X tripod. Credit: “[Cimmarons Sunset](https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidkingham/15520084322/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [David Kingham](https://www.flickr.com/people/davidkingham/)* **[Get the Sirui tripod here](https://amzn.to/2WcXLhL)**                                                              **Heading out soon?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup. **[                                                                  Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** --- \[sta\_anchor id=”trailpix” /\] ### 2. Ultralight Trekking Pole Tripod [![ultralight trekkiing pole tripod adapter](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/ultralight-trekkiing-pole-tripod-adapter.jpg "ultralight trekkiing pole tripod adapter - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/ultralight-trekkiing-pole-tripod-adapter.jpg) **Quick Specs:** - **Material:** Carbon fiber - **Weight:** 2.3oz (base), 0.85oz (ball head), 0.81oz (Arca Swiss clamp), 3.8oz (1 pole) - **Total weight:** 8oz (with pole) or 5oz (with own pole) - **Max Load:** 3.3lb - **Ball head Included:** Yes - [**Buy Here**](https://amzn.to/4dPnaDg) This tripod is actually a base that allows you to use your trekking poles or branches as legs, thus allowing you to save a lot of weight. You can [buy just the base here](https://amzn.to/3wzcicc), or the set which includes one leg, an UL ball head, clamp, and phone head. The entire setup is incredibly lightweight. However, it has its downfalls.  For starters, it takes a while to set up.  If you are the type of person who runs around with your camera setting up shots, then this isn’t for you.  It’s really annoying to adjust the height of the tripod.  If your poles are dirty, the tripod base will end up coated in dirt. [**Get the Ultralight Trekking Pole Tripod Here**](https://amzn.to/4dPnaDg) --- \[sta\_anchor id=”elements” /\] ### 3. Manfrotto Elements Traveler Large Tripod [![Element Traveler Lightweight Tripod for Backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/element-traveler.jpg "element traveler - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/element-traveler.jpg)![](//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&l=am2&o=1&a=B079X1KJDJ) **Quick Specs:** - **Material:**  Carbon fiber (aluminum also available) - **Weight with Ball Head:** 37oz - **Max Load:** 8.8lbs - **Collapsed Size:** 12.6” - **Min-Max Height:** 13.78″-56.3” - **Ballast Hook:** Yes - **Locks:** Twist - **Leg Sections:** 5 - **Ball head Included:** Yes - **Spiked feet:** Yes - **[Buy here](https://amzn.to/33ago7a)** --- If you are only going to buy one tripod for backpacking and don’t mind a little bit extra weight, the Manfrotto Elements Traveler is probably the best choice. The tripod is incredibly versatile in what it can do.  You can attach the ball head to the top or bottom of the center column, meaning you can mount your camera upside down if you want.  You’ll be able to get your camera almost exactly at ground level – perfect for macro photography. The overall build of the tripod is very sturdy.  The legs lock solidly without any wiggling in the joints.  Yes, 5 joints mean it takes some time to extend the tripod but this is what you’d expect on a full-length travel tripod. The legs lock out at angles of 21.5, 54.5, and 83 degrees. The ball head which is included with the tripod is a good quality which operates smoothly even in bad weather or sandy areas.  It has full 360 degree panoramic rotation and quick release. There’s a bubble level built-in. Yes, 37oz is a bit too heavy to be considered an ultralight tripod.  However, it’s one of the lightest tripods which is still sturdy enough for serious gear. The Manfrotto Elements Traveler does have a cool option of removing one leg and attaching it to the center column to make a monopod. So, on trips where you don’t need a full tripod, this gives you a lighter alternative. \*Manfrotto also makes other great carbon fiber tripods, but they are over 4lbs with the ball head, so I didn’t include them here. **[Get the Manfrotto tripod here](https://amzn.to/33ago7a)** --- \[sta\_anchor id=”roadtrip” /\] ### 4. MeFoto RoadTrip Carbon Fiber ![MeFoto RoadTrip lightweight tripod](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/mefoto-roadtrip-s.jpg "mefoto roadtrip s - Mom Goes Camping") --- **Quick Specs:** - **Material:**  Carbon fiber - **Weight with Ball Head:** 3.2lbs - **Max Load:** 17.6lbs - **Collapsed Size:** 15.4” - **Min-Max Height:** 15.4”-61.6” - **Ballast Hook:** Yes - **Locks:** Twist - **Leg Sections:** 5 - **Ball head Included:** Yes - **Spiked Feet:** Yes - **[Buy Here](https://amzn.to/3UQAGhp)** The MeFoto RoadTrip carbon fiber tripod used to be very affordably-priced. Now, the price has shot up. At the time of writing, it’s nearly double the price of the Manfrotto Elements Travel CF tripod. However, it also has a very high weight limit considering how lightweight it is.  It also holds up very well and can withstand a decent amount of abuse. I would still go with Manfrotto, as they are a more reputable and tested brand. **[Get the MeFoto RoadTrip here](https://amzn.to/3UQAGhp)** --- \[sta\_anchor id=”am-223″ unsan=”AM-223″ /\] ### 5. Sirui AM-223 [![sirui am 223 backpacking tripod](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/sirui-am-223-outdoors.jpg "sirui am 223 outdoors - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/sirui-am-223-outdoors.jpg) **Quick Specs:** - **Material:**  Carbon fiber - **Tripod weight:** 18.7oz - **Weight with Ball Head:** 26oz - **Max Load:** 31lbs (tripod), 22lbs (head) - **Collapsed Size:** 12” - **Min-Max Height:** 2.3″-13.8″ - **Ballast Hook:** Yes - **Locks:** Twist - **Leg Sections:** 3 - **Ball head Included:** Yes - **Spiked Feet:** Yes - **[Buy Here](https://amzn.to/33gEFIP)** Sirui recently released their AM-2 series of traveler tripods.  Of the series, the AM-223 is the most impressive for lightweight backpacking. The tripod itself is only 1.17lbs and it comes out to 1.62lbs with the ball head.  Because there isn’t a center column, the tripod folds up very compact and is easy to carry.![](//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&l=am2&o=1&a=B07KD1NNND) The max load of the tripod 31lbs. However, the included B-00K ballhead only has a max load of 22lbs. This ball head is suitable for most needs but is far from the best.  You might want to replace it with the A-10R ball head (which is compatible with the tripod).  It has a higher max load and more features like friction control.  Unfortunately, you can’t buy the AM-223 tripod without the ball head.   With some of the other tripods in the series, you can get just the legs. [![sirui am 223 lightweight backpacking tripod](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/sirui-am-223.jpg "sirui am 223 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/sirui-am-223.jpg) The tripod performs really well in the backcountry.  It is quick to and set up lock in place. The option for spiked legs is really useful in grass.  The leg locking system is semi-automatic but only has one position plus a 90 degree option.  This makes it possible to set up the tripod on uneven surfaces, but with a lot of limitations. Considering the ball head is included and this is a carbon fiber tripod, the Sirui AM-223 is very affordable.  The other tripods in the series are also affordable and all have a 6 year warranty. **[Check out the AM-2 Series Here](https://amzn.to/33gEFIP)** --- \[sta\_anchor id=”mini-pro-v” /\] ### 6. Slik Mini Pro V ![Slik Mini lightweight tripod](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/slik-mini.jpg "slik mini - Mom Goes Camping") **Quick Specs:** - **Material:**  Aluminum - **Tripod Weight:** 12.8oz - **Max Load:** 2.7lbs - **Collapsed Size:** 7.9” - **Min-Max Height:** 6.1-9” - **Ballast Hook:** No - **Locks:** Twist - **Leg Sections:** 2 - **Ball head Included:** Yes - **Spiked Feet:** No - **[Buy Here](https://amzn.to/3cMxU65)** If you find yourself bringing a larger tripod on backpacking trips but never actually need it, then it’s worth considering the Slik Mini Pro V tripod.  It’s definitely tiny and compact and weighs in at 0.8lbs.  I wish it were lighter for its size but, considering it is dirt cheap in photo dollars, it’s no surprise that it’s a bit heavier. As the tripod only has a height range of 6-9 inches, it is obviously limited.  Yet, there is still a center column and two leg sections which allow you to get some flexibility in shot heights.  You can also utilize the center column as a chest pod. ![Slik Mini Pro V folded lightweight tripod](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/miniprov_fold-540x800.jpg "miniprov_fold-540x800 - Mom Goes Camping") The tripod has plastic leg locks which will probably break if abused.  It should be fine against your pack while backpacking, but definitely don’t leave it outside in bad weather. A small gripe: I wish they could have made the center column slightly longer.  As it is now, the camera can’t be tilted straight downward for vertical shots. The bottom line? Choose this if you need something light and cheap for a mirrorless camera. **[Get the Slik Mini Pro V here](https://amzn.to/3cMxU65)** --- \[sta\_anchor id=”ultrapod” /\] ### 7. PEDCO UltraPod III Lightweight Camera Tripod![](//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&l=am2&o=1&a=B000ANCPNM) ![Pedco UltraPod II lightweight backpacking tripod](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/ultrapod.jpg "ultrapod - Mom Goes Camping") **Quick Specs:** - **Material:**  Aluminum - **Tripod Weight:** 4oz - **Max Load:** 10lbs - **Collapsed Size:** 7” - **Min-Max Height:** 5” - **Head:** ¼-20 female thread - **[Buy Here](https://amzn.to/3UUJ8Mq)** The Pedco UltraPod III is even more basic than the Slik Mini Pro V listed above.  It’s basically just three legs that support your camera. It has a max load of 6lbs, so could fit DSLRs. However, it’s really best for mirrorless and smaller cameras. Despite how simple the tripod is, it has some cool features that make it useful for backpacking photography.  First is the way the feet are made.  They are slanted and spike-like, meaning it’s surprisingly stable.  It only is 5” high off the ground, so you will need to find a rock or log to set up on unless you want to crawl around on your belly all the time. To avoid the “belly shot” issue, the UltraPod comes with a Velcro strap.  You can use the strap to attach the tripod to trees or your trekking poles.  It actually works very well, so long as you don’t have bulky gear on the tripod. It also allows you to turn your trekking poles into a monopod. ![Ultrapod strapped to a tree](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/ultrapod-tree.jpg "ultrapod tree - Mom Goes Camping") [![Pedco Ultrapod for backpacking photography](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/ultrapod-tree-2.jpg "ultrapod tree 2 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/ultrapod-tree-2.jpg) The major downside of the UltraPod is that it only shoots in landscape.  If you want to shoot portrait mode with the tripod you will be out of luck. Other than that, it’s a damn good ultralight tripod that is insanely cheap. **[Get the Ultrapod here](https://amzn.to/3UUJ8Mq)** --- ### Lightweight Backpacking Tripod FAQ: #### What is considered a lightweight tripod for backpacking? Generally anything under 3 pounds with the ball head included. Under 2 pounds is getting into ultralight territory. The challenge is that most tripods in that weight range sacrifice stability or max load capacity, so you need to balance weight against what gear you’re actually mounting on it. #### Is carbon fiber worth it for a backpacking tripod? Yes, for serious use carbon fiber is lighter than aluminum at the same stiffness, handles vibration better, and holds up against moisture and trail abuse. The weight savings over aluminum can be 20-30% on a comparable tripod. The cost difference is significant, but if you’re carrying a camera worth more than the tripod, protecting it with a stable platform is worth the investment. #### Can you use trekking poles as a tripod for backpacking? Yes, with a dedicated base adapter. A trekking pole tripod system can weigh as little as 2-3oz for the base, using your existing poles as legs. The tradeoff is fiddly setup, limited stability, and a low max load it works well for mirrorless cameras and smartphones but isn’t suitable for heavy DSLRs or long telephoto lenses. #### What tripod height do I need for backpacking photography? It depends entirely on how you shoot. If you do landscape and nightscape work, a full-height tripod (50-60 inches) lets you shoot standing up and gets the camera above foreground obstructions. If you mostly shoot macro, wildlife closeups, or want minimum weight, a tabletop tripod (5-9 inches) is sufficient pair it with a rock, log, or pack to get it to shooting height. #### Is a ballhead or pan-tilt head better for backpacking? Ballhead almost always. Ballheads are lighter, faster to operate, and more compact than pan-tilt heads. You lose some precision for video panning work, but for still photography on the trail a ballhead is the clear choice. Make sure the ballhead’s max load rating is at least 3x the weight of your camera and lens combination. **What tripod do you use for backpacking? Let us know in the comments below!** ###### Resources: <https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/2028/> <https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/104765/> <https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/lightweight-tripod/> <https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/adding-to-tripod-stability/> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gigapan_imager_on_Mt_Cargill.jpg> ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [How Much Food to Pack for a Backpacking Trip?](https://momgoescamping.com/how-much-food-pack-backpacking/) **Published:** January 7, 2025 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Figuring out how much food to bring on backpacking trips used to be really stressful for me. I would “eyeball” the amounts when packing food. Since I was scared that I’d end up hungry, I’d inevitably bring too much food – meaning my pack was *way* heavier than it should have been and I also ended up with a lot of wasted food. Read more about backpacking meals below: - [Best Backpacking Foods from the Supermarket](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-supermarket-foods/) - [Backpacking Meal Ideas](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-meal-ideas/) - [Cold Soak Backpacking Meals](https://momgoescamping.com/cold-soak-backpacking-meals/) Now, I carefully calculate how much food to bring backpacking.  It takes a lot of work at the beginning, but it is worth it because my pack doesn’t get weighed down by “just in case” food and I don’t have to worry about being hungry. ## **The Quick Answer:** There are two methods for planning much food to bring backpacking. The first is to pack 1.5 to 2.5lbs of food per day. However, this can be highly inaccurate because some heavy foods don’t have many calories. The second method is to calculate your daily calorie needs, which is usually 2,500 to 3,500 calories per day for healthy backpackers. You then tally up the calories in the food you pack to make sure you have this many calories. ## Method 1: Pounds of Food Per Day When Backpacking The most common recommendation for how much food to bring backpacking uses “pounds of food per day”. Recommendations vary but are usually 1.5 to 2.5lbs of food per day. This method makes packing food for your trip easy. However, it can be highly inaccurate. It doens’t calculate in your individual calorie needs.  As a 110lb woman, I definitely don’t require as much food as my 150lb male hiking partner! Further, it doesn’t factor in caloric-density. Let’s say you estimate you need 2lbs of food per day on your trip.  As the examples show, the foods you choose could result in a very different amount of calories. \[table id=104 /\] Obviously you wouldn’t be eating just one food during a backpacking trip.  However, these examples show how the caloric density of the foods you choose affects how many calories you ultimately end up eating on your trip — and thus whether you end up hungry or not. #### **If you do use the pounds of food per day method…** - **Aim for foods with *at least 110 calories per ounce.*** This will give you 3,520 calories/day in 2lbs. - **If you are thru-hiking and need to be ultralight, then aim for 150 calories per ounce.**  This will give you 3,500 calories/day in 1.43lbs. **Also Read: [Most calorie-dense foods for backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/calorie-dense-healthy-backpacking-foods/)** ## Method 2: Calories Per Pound of Body Weight Another way of planning how much food to bring backpacking is to calculate your daily calorie needs. Here’s how it works: - **Calculate 16-25 calories per pound of bodyweight.** Easy hikes in mild weather require fewer calories per pound, and harder hikes in colder weather require more. It usually ends up being 2,500 to 3,500 calories per day for a healthy adult. For a more precise amount, see this **[backpacking calorie calculator tool](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-food-calorie-calculator/).** - **Tally up the calories in each food you pack.** The total calories should meet your daily requirements. - **Divide up daily calories by meal.** Approximately 20-25% calories should go to breakfast, 15% of calories for lunch, 25% of calories for dinner, and the remaining for snacks. - **Make a meal plan.** It takes a lot of work, but it helps to make a spreadsheet with your meal plan. Below you can see an example of a meal plan for a backpacking trip for two people. It breaks down to 2,200 calories for me (I weigh just 110lbs) and 2,800 calories for my partner (140lbs). It was a moderately-difficult hike, so I calculated 20 calories per pound of body weight. **See more [backpacking meal plan examples (with calorie counts) here](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-meal-plans/).** [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/backpacking-meal-plan-5000-calories-per-day-two-people-with-weight.jpg "backpacking meal plan 5000 calories per day two people with weight - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/backpacking-meal-plan-5000-calories-per-day-two-people-with-weight.jpg) **Want insanely calorie-dense backpacking meals? Check out my eBook!**                                                         **Want gourmet meals on the trail?** My dehydrator recipes ebook has 50+ calorie-dense backpacking recipes — just add hot water. **[                                                                           Get it here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck)** [![dehydrator backpacking recipes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/book-with-tablet.png "book with tablet - Mom Goes Camping")](https://gum.co/gourmetasheck/50off) ## Backpacking Food Planning FAQ: #### How much food should I pack per day backpacking? The most reliable method is 1.5 to 2 pounds of food per day, but only if you’re choosing calorie-dense foods averaging at least 110 calories per ounce. If you pack heavy, water-laden foods at that weight, you’ll run short on calories. The more accurate method is calculating 16 to 25 calories per pound of body weight per day, depending on the difficulty of your hike and the weather. #### How many calories do I need per day backpacking? Most healthy adults need between 2,500 and 3,500 calories per day on a backpacking trip. A 110lb woman on a moderate hike needs roughly 2,200 calories; a 160lb man on a hard hike in cold weather could need 4,000. Use 20 calories per pound of body weight as a reliable starting point for a moderately difficult trip. #### What happens if you don’t eat enough while backpacking? Performance drops fast within a day of significant calorie deficit you’ll notice slower hiking, poor decision-making, low morale, and cold sensitivity. Beyond that, muscle breakdown begins. Hunger is easy to ignore when you’re moving; exhaustion and hypothermia susceptibility are harder to ignore and more dangerous. Pack more than you think you need on your first few trips until you dial in your personal needs. #### Is it better to bring too much or too little food backpacking? Too much always. A pound of extra food adds little to your pack weight and means you’re never making decisions from a place of hunger. On a first trip especially, the mental comfort of knowing you have enough food is worth the extra weight. Dial down the quantities once you have a few trips under your belt and understand your actual consumption. #### How do you reduce the weight of food while backpacking? Focus on calorie density the goal is maximum calories per ounce. Olive oil (250 cal/oz), nut butters (170 cal/oz), nuts and seeds (160-180 cal/oz), and dehydrated meals (100-140 cal/oz) are the highest-performing options. Remove all unnecessary packaging at home and repack into zip-lock bags. Dehydrating your own meals takes more prep time but significantly reduces weight compared to commercial freeze-dried options. ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Food --- ### [TVP Pasta Sauce Backpacking Recipe (Dehydrator)](https://momgoescamping.com/tvp-pasta-sauce-backpacking-recipe/) **Published:** September 5, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** If you want to get started dehydrating your own backpacking meals, pasta sauce is a good place to start.  There are a zillion ways to make pasta sauce for backpacking, and most recipes are impossible to screw up. Read more about backpacking meals below: - [Backpacking Meal Ideas](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-meal-ideas/) - [Cold Soak Backpacking Meals](https://momgoescamping.com/cold-soak-backpacking-meals/) - [Super Easy Dehydrator Hummus Backpacking Recipe](https://momgoescamping.com/dehydrator-hummus-backpacking-recipe/) Here’s one basic recipe to get  your started. **Guess what? I wrote an eBook.  It’s got over 50 calorie-dense recipes for backpacking plus tons of info on meal planning.  [Get it here](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmetasheck).** [![backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/backpacking-dehydrator-recipes-ebook.jpg "backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmetasheck) ## Makes: 4 Servings \*This makes enough sauce for about 400 grams of dry pasta. Assuming that you eat 100g of pasta for dinner (at 371 calories per 100g dry pasta), that comes out to 475 calories total for your dinner.   Add some olive oil, olives, cheese, etc. and you’ve easily got a 600 calorie dinner – which is perfect after a long day of hiking. ## Weight and Calorie Breakdown: Once the ingredients are dehydrated and TVP added, the sauce weighs 132 grams/4.65 ounces. That breaks down to: - **Total calories: 418** - **2 calories per gram** - **90 calories per ounce** Admittedly, this isn’t the most caloric-dense backpacking food (I usually strive for [at least 120 calories per ounce](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-food/)).  But you can increase the caloric density by adding a splash of olive oil to the pasta.  I carry olive oil in a little plastic bottle with me.   Food tastes better when it has fat on it too! ## Ingredients: - 1/3 zucchini (100g) = 17 calories - 1/2 cups tomato paste (130g) = 137 calories - 1 cups TVP (80g) = 264 calories - Salt, herbs, spices (I used an Italian spice blend) ## Instructions: **At home:** 1. Blend the zucchini and tomato paste into a puree. You might need a splash of water to get it going. Spread the blended puree on a couple small pieces of parchment paper. 2. Put the parchment papers on your dehydrator trays. 3. Dehydrate until completely dry. It should snap when you bend it and no moisture should come out when you squeeze it. 4. Crumble the dry zucchini and tomato paste into a zip baggie. 5. Add the TVP, salt and seasonings to the bag. You are now done! [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/dried-sauce.jpg "dried sauce - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/dried-sauce.jpg)*Dehydrated tomato paste and zucchini*[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/dried-sauce-2.jpg "dried sauce 2 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/dried-sauce-2.jpg)*Mixed with the TVP* **On the trail:** 1. **Cook your pasta until it is al dente.** Then remove from the stove. Expert tip: Presoak pasta before cooking to save fuel.  It also helps you gauge how much water you need for cooking. 2. **Check how much water is remaining in the pot.** There should be enough to rehydrate the sauce.  If there is too much water, the sauce will be runny!  Remember that the TVP will absorb a lot of the water, so you’ll need to leave a bit more water than you think you need. 3. **Add the sauce ingredients to the pasta.** 4. **Cover the pot and let it sit for 5-10 minutes.** 5. **Gourmet add-ins:** I added some hard cheese and olives to the pasta to make it even tastier. Olive oil also makes it taste even better. 6. **Enjoy!** [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/amount-of-water-left.jpg "amount of water left - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/amount-of-water-left.jpg)*This is how much water I had in the pot before adding the dry sauce ingredients* [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/mixing-in-sauce.jpg "mixing in sauce - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/mixing-in-sauce.jpg)*Mixing in sauce for rehydrating plus some chunks of vegan cheese and olives for extra calories and yumminess*[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/rehydrated.jpg "rehydrated - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/rehydrated.jpg)*The rehydrated sauce* ### TVP Backpacking Recipe FAQ #### What is TVP and why is it good for backpacking? TVP stands for Textured Vegetable Protein  it’s dehydrated soy protein that rehydrates quickly in hot water and adds a meat-like texture to trail meals. It’s lightweight, shelf-stable for years, cheap per ounce, and packs in more protein per gram than most trail foods. A cup of dry TVP weighs about 80 grams and delivers around 264 calories and 36 grams of protein. #### Does TVP need to be dehydrated before taking backpacking? No — TVP is sold already dehydrated. You add it directly to the bag with your other dry ingredients at home. It rehydrates on the trail when you add hot water. The pasta sauce components (tomato paste and vegetables) do need to be dehydrated, but the TVP itself skips that step. #### How long does dehydrated pasta sauce last in a zip-lock bag? Properly dehydrated sauce meaning completely dry, no moisture remaining  will last 1 to 2 months in a sealed bag at room temperature, and significantly longer in the freezer. If you’re making batches ahead of a multi-week trip, freeze them and transfer to your pack the night before you leave. #### Can you cold soak this TVP pasta sauce? Partially. TVP rehydrates reasonably well in cold water given enough time (30-45 minutes in a sealed container), but the pasta itself needs hot water to cook through. If you want a cold-soak version, swap the pasta for couscous or instant mashed potato, both of which rehydrate fully in cold water. #### How do I increase the calorie density of this recipe? Add fat, it’s the easiest lever. A tablespoon of olive oil adds about 120 calories and weighs next to nothing. Hard cheese crumbled in adds another 100-150 calories and improves the texture significantly. Walnuts or pine nuts stirred in work well too. All three are options Diane mentions using any of them pushes this meal well past the 120 cal/oz target. **Want gourmet meals on the trail?** My dehydrator recipes ebook has 50+ calorie-dense backpacking recipes just add hot water. **[Get it here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck)** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Food **Tags:** recipe --- ### [Backpacking while Pregnant: Firsthand Advice from a Trip that Didn't Go So Well](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-while-pregnant/) **Published:** September 8, 2017 **Author:** Diane **Content:** When I pictured myself pregnant, I imagined myself going to the gym to lift weights with my belly sticking out, or trekking in the woods. Considering that my pregnancy with Isabel was a torturous nine months, I should have known that these were unrealistic expectations. After all, it took my seven years to get enough courage to go through pregnancy again (actually not courage – more like I forgot how much being pregnant sucks for me.). That’s how I found myself going backpacking at 4 weeks pregnant. The plan was to go to Rugova Gorge in Kosovo.  Isabel and I had been there two years prior, and the experience was amazing.  Yes, the hike up to the peak is really steep but you are rewarded with a beautiful glacier lake at 1900 meters, peace, and no cell signal.  There are lots of day hikers that come through, and they make for great company. Here’s the problem: I get *really* sick while pregnant.  To give you an idea how sick, consider that normal [HCG levels](https://www.babymed.com/normal-hcg-blood-level-by-week-during-pregnancy) (the hormone which makes causes morning sickness) are up to 426 at 4 weeks. My levels were 9,600!  By 9 weeks, those numbers had gone up to 250,000! My crazy hormones basically mean that I am puking 24/7.  I lost 2 kilos in the first weeks of pregnancy simply because I couldn’t eat.  By week 6, the morning sickness was so bad that I couldn’t even drink water and was getting massive dehydration headaches. Luckily, I figured out a solution to the terrible morning sickness. Write me if you want to know what it is. > “**I didn’t want to let a baby stop me from doing the things I love, especially before it was even born**!” The first few days we spent camping at a ranch just outside of the small city of Peja, the gateway to Rugova Gorge.  I was tired, but I was basically laying around all day while Isabel played with horses and dogs. Since the weather was a lot cooler, my morning sickness was actually better than it had been in the city. Tromping up the mountain a few days later was a different story.  Lightweight backpacking with kids is a fantasy, especially if you don’t want to spend a fortune on fancy kids hiking clothes that they’ll outgrow in one season.  My pack weighed 18 kilos. Isabel was complaining during the hike up (as she usually does).  I was too tired to motivate her. It was easier for me to just carry her backpack for her than argue with her.  Now my load was up to over 20 kilos. Somehow the hike up wasn’t too bad. We stopped a lot to pick berries and snack. The 2.5km trek took us 3+ hours. I didn’t want to let a baby stop me from doing the things I love – especially before it is even born! But the next few days I was tired as hell. > **“It’s really hard to respect “leave no trace” when your morning sickness has you puking all over the trail.”** Isabel wanted me to play with her, and I simply had no energy.  I suggested that we go for a hike a few times.  Isabel said no (she was having too much fun catching salamanders and water beetles).  I didn’t push the hike – I was happy to lay around and rest.  We basically stayed at the same spot for 3 days. Even though we’d planned to stay 5 days, I couldn’t make it.  I was vomiting about 3 times per day, and dry heaving the rest of the time.  It’s really hard to respect “leave no trace” when your morning sickness has you puking all over the trail! ![backpacking while pregnant](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/p1.jpg "p1 - Mom Goes Camping")*One month pregnant puking and extremely exhausted but trying to keep a smile for Isabel* My [normal backpacking food](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-food/) also didn’t suit my pregnancy belly. Ramen noodles were okay, but throwing up trail mix was painful.   The one good thing was that pregnancy constipation meant I didn’t have to dig a fox hole too many times. So we decided to head back home early. It wasn’t an easy decision.  I felt like I’d failed. Luckily, my fatigue didn’t leave me much energy to dwell on this failure. > **“Normally I’d never let a man carry my backpack for me.  But, when he offered, I didn’t object too hard.”** Downhill is actually harder for me than uphill (I should really do calf exercises). Since we left early, I also had leftover food in my pack. Thus, my pack was heavier than I planned it would be for the downhill.                                              **Taking the kids camping for the first time?** My “Your Family’s First Camping Trip” bundle has the complete guide, printable packing checklist, and three done-for-you itineraries — everything from booking the site to the drive home. **[                                                                    Get the bundle →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/1stcampingtrip)** We had to take like 15 breaks on the way down. At one point, a local man with his wife and kid passed us while we were taking a break.  Men from Rugova are some of the tallest in the world and built strong.  You can tell they grew up climbing mountains and splitting wood. Normally my feminist pride would never let a man carry my backpack for me.  But, when this local offered to help, I didn’t object too hard.  He ended up carrying my backpack down the last 300 meters of the trail. When I told him that I was pregnant (trying to explain why I couldn’t handle my own damn backpack), he looked at me like I was crazy. I don’t think I’m crazy.  I just want to keep doing the things I love. > **“Mothers have to fight like hell not get caught up in “baby prison.”** Once I got back, I realized it was going to be a long time before I do any backpacking.  It will be November before I feel normal, and I don’t feel like winter camping with a huge pregnancy belly. I know I should take it easy.   But I also don’t want to give up the things I love just because I’m pregnant (nor do I want to stop once the baby is born!).  There’s a group camping trip in October which hopefully I’ll be able to make. But there is the question of what I’ll do once the kid is born.  Do I go hardcore and take the baby backpacking? Do I ditch the kid for a few weeks at a time so I can get away? Do I put my life on hold until the kid stops breastfeeding? Mothers have to fight like hell to keep time for themselves, to not get caught up in “baby prison.” Trust me, it would have been a LOT easier to just sit at home with Isabel than organize trips and babysitters for the times I wanted to go have a friggin’ drink with friends. But women also take on way more than their share of the work.  We shouldn’t have to struggle just to keep up our passions while being mothers!  Here’s to hoping that the fathers of the world will finally step up and share the burden of the housework and child-rearing so we women don’t have to give up our sense of selves because of motherhood. I’m still hoping that I’ll be able to get to the gym after this first trimester fatigue wears off.  But, if I’m ever pregnant again, I’ll make my husband take the kids to the mountains while I rest. **“Getting outdoors while pregnant *is* doable, and not entirely crazy.”** With my first pregnancy, I also had terrible morning sickness for the first 5 months (resulting in a lot of lost weight and complications).  But the last trimester was fine.  I was able to go car camping and hiking (not backpacking though) easily.  One of my favorite memories is being at the beautiful Tara Mountain at 8 months pregnant. So, yes, getting outdoors while pregnant IS doable and not entirely crazy.  Just please don’t push yourself.  It’s okay to take it easy on yourself.  We don’t all need to be superwomen! ![camping pregnant](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/P1030158.jpg "P1030158 - Mom Goes Camping")*During a camping trip while 8 month pregnant with Isabel The first 6 months were terrible By the 3rd trimester I could climb mountains*  ## Tips for Backpacking while Pregnant: Just in case you do want to try it, here are the things that I would have done differently and tips. - **Don’t go alone**. You’ll appreciate having someone to share the pack load with, and to help with camp chores like hanging the bear bag. - **Consider car camping instead:** Car camping means you don’t have to walk far with a heavy backpack. You can also bring more gear, like a thicker sleeping pad. - **Choose food wisely.** A lot of typical camping food will upset your stomach. Soups were the best option for me.  Later in pregnancy, you’ll need more calories, fat, and protein in meals. - **Electrolytes!** Electrolytes are nutrients that help hydrate your body. I always keep them in [my first aid kit](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-first-aid-checklist/).  While pregnant, I’d pack a bunch extra to take after puking. - **Make sure you have a way to leave.** In other words, don’t embark on a 40 mile loop only to reach the halfway point and realize that you want to go home. - **Avoid developing countries.** Traveler’s diarrhea is never fun, but particularly dangerous while pregnant. If I were to go to a developing country now, I’d treat all the water. - **Don’t use iodine water treatments.** The iodine can build up in your body and is bad for the developing baby. Use a [water filter](https://momgoescamping.com/sawyer-mini-water-filter-review/) instead. - **Consider altitude.** When you are pregnant, you’ve got up to 50% more blood in your body. This means you’ve got an increased demand for oxygen.  At high altitudes, there is less oxygen and your body could react very badly! - **Figure out your insurance coverage.** If something happens during your trip, your insurance might not cover it because pregnancy is a “preexisting condition.” - **Don’t plan too far ahead.** Pregnancy is unpredictable. You might be one of the lucky women who doesn’t have morning sickness or symptoms during the first trimester, but then get hit with dizziness during the second.  So don’t make any definitive plans.  See how you feel the days or week before the backpacking trip and then decide if you still want to go. Read more about camping below: - [Camping and Backpacking in Rugova Gorge, Kosovo](https://momgoescamping.com/rugova-gorge/) - [Camping While Pregnant: 7 Tips to Make It Easier](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-pregnant-tips/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Backpacking, Camping with Kids **Tags:** pregnancy --- ### [Baby Camping Checklist (Printable)](https://momgoescamping.com/baby-camping-checklist-printable/) **Published:** December 1, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** You actually don’t need that many extra items to go camping with a baby.  However, the items you do need are really important.  Forgetting a single item like a changing pad or pacifier clip could completely mess up your camping trip.  This baby camping list will ensure you don’t forget anything. **Notes:** - This baby camping checklist is *in addition to* the items you normally need to bring camping. See that [Family Camping Checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-checklist-family/) here. - Some of these baby camping items are optional (like a chair or playpen) but will make your trip easier and more enjoyable. - If you need advice, see this post about [camping with a baby](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-with-baby/) **\*Click here for a [printable version of the baby camping checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/baby-camping-gear-checklist-printable-version.pdf)\*** ## Baby Sleep Items - **Tent:** You may want to upgrade to a larger tent with more headroom - **Sleeping bag:** See [best baby sleeping bags for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/best-baby-sleeping-bags-camping/) here - **Sleeping pad:** Ideally with an R-value of 3 or higher - **Baby camping bed:** Optional but nice to have. See [best camping baby beds](https://momgoescamping.com/baby-camping-beds/) here. - **Leak catcher:** Like a waterproof pad to put under your baby in the sleeping bag - **Pillow:** I just use a folded fleece jacket \*Not sure about the sleep setup? Read [How to sleep in a tent with a baby](https://momgoescamping.com/sleep-tent-with-baby/) [![morrison sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/morrison-sleeping-bag.jpg "morrison sleeping bag - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/morrison-sleeping-bag.jpg)[Morrison](https://morrisonoutdoors.com/?aff=3) is one of the only brands which makes baby sleeping bags for camping ## Camping Clothes for Baby \*Don’t forget to bring backups! - **Breathable base layers (onsies or tops and bottoms)** - **Warm mid-layers (onsies or tops and bottoms)** - **Jacket** - **Hat with a brim** - **Waterproof rain suit** - **Pajamas** - **Socks** - **Shoes or booties** - **Hat and gloves** - **Swimsuit or swim diaper** ## Feeding Items \*You won’t need most of these if you are solely breastfeeding. - **Bibs or smocks** - **Bottles and nipples:** Bring enough each day so you don’t have to constantly clean them - **Disposable bottle inserts:** I don’t like disposable products but these do make camping and hiking easier since you won’t have to clean the bottle after using it. - **Bottled water or water purifier:** Check whether the campground has potable water! - **Thermos:** This is useful for storing hot water to use for formula. Don’t put premade formula in the Thermos though as it will go bad quickly and the Thermos will get gross. - **Sippy cups** - **Bottle cleaning supplies:** Like a bottle brush. If you don’t have a sink at camp, sterilizing tablets are nice to have. - **Baby food:** Choose pouches instead of jars. - **Bowls and spoons** - **Pacifier + clip and case:** The clip and case keep the pacifiers from getting dirty - **Portable high chair:** This is optional (I just fed my daughter in her stroller) but makes feeding a lot easier for longer camping trips. ## Diapering Items - **Diapers:** Calculate about 7-13 per day, depending on your baby (it’s better to have more than not enough!) - **Unscented baby wipes** - **Non-scented barrier cream** - **Changing pad:** Choose something thicker if you have to do changes on cold or wet ground. - **Diaper pail with lid:** This is optional but makes life easier; you can just empty the pail at the end of the day instead of having to walk to the camp trash cans each time you do a diaper change. - **Sealable bags:** for carrying dirty diapers until you can throw them away, such as on hikes. ## Health and Hygiene Items - **Bathtub:** A large plastic basin will do. - **Towels** - **Washcloths** - **Biodegradable, non-scented soap** - **Rope and clothespins:** For making a clothes line. Don’t forget this one!!! - **Hand sanitizer (for you, not the baby):** To clean your hands after diaper changes if you can’t get to a sink - **Trash bags** - **Sunblock and/or UV-protective clothing** - **Baby-safe bug spray** - **Mosquito net or bug tent** - **Nail clippers** - **Toothbrush and toothpaste** ![using a bucket to give a bath a bath when camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/baby-bath-in-bucket-camping-2.jpg "baby bath in bucket camping 2 - Mom Goes Camping")Plastic bins make great baby baths ## First aid items for baby **\*See my picks for [best camping first aid kits](https://momgoescamping.com/best-first-aid-kits-for-camping/) here** - **Baby fever medicine + measuring syringe** - **Saline solution in little ampules:** You might need this for cleaning your baby’s eyes or nose - **Cotton balls** - **Antihistamine:** In case of allergic reaction it can buy you time until you get to a hospital - **Teething ring and/or gel** - **Diaper rash cream** [![saline solution ampules](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/saline-bottles.jpg "saline bottles - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/saline-bottles.jpg)*[These saline ampules](https://amzn.to/2NAiwfX) are really useful for cleaning dirt out of babys eyes* ## Other Baby Camping Gear - **Hiking carrier:** Read about [hiking carriers](https://momgoescamping.com/tips-child-hiking-carriers/) here - **Trail-friendly stroller:** Like these [best off-road strollers](https://momgoescamping.com/all-terrain-strollers-hiking/) - **Waterproof picnic blanket or foam pad.** Or somewhere else to put your baby so they can play on the ground without getting (too) dirty. - **Baby chair:** See these [best baby camping chairs](https://momgoescamping.com/the-only-baby-camping-chairs-worth-buying/) - **Portable playpen:** This is very useful once your baby starts crawling. It also keeps your baby off the ground so insects and animals can’t get to her. - **Tent lantern:** Preferably with a red light option so you don’t blind your baby during nighttime feedings and changes. - **Extra batteries:** You’ll use more batteries than normal when camping with a baby - **Carabiner:** For attaching the lantern to the tent, toys to the playpen, etc. - **Shade tent/tarp:** For both shade and rain protection - **Breastfeeding chair for mom** - **Infant life jacket:** If you will be doing any water activities. See [top picks here.](https://momgoescamping.com/best-life-jackets-toddlers/) - **Toys/comfort items** ![baby in a portable play pen while camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/2819537185_829605e7db_c.jpg "baby in a portable play pen while camping - Mom Goes Camping")A playpen gives you somewhere safe to put your baby![sitting on a picnic blanket while camping with babies](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/8005394467_d7f4acffe5_c.jpg "sitting on a picnic blanket while camping with babies - Mom Goes Camping")Lots of foam pads and blankets so the babies have somewhere to play See the [best baby camping chairs](https://momgoescamping.com/the-only-baby-camping-chairs-worth-buying/) for outdoor use here. **Did I miss anything?** **Let me know in the comments section below.** **\*Get the [baby camping checklist printable](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/baby-camping-checklist-printable.pdf) Here\*** --- Image credits: “[First camping adventure](https://www.flickr.com/photos/vastateparksstaff/42586592695/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [vastateparksstaff](https://www.flickr.com/people/vastateparksstaff/) “[A camp bath](https://www.flickr.com/photos/christophercraig/2534668511/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [christophercraig](https://www.flickr.com/people/christophercraig/) “[Striking Camping Trip #1](https://www.flickr.com/photos/grahamandsheila/2819537185/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Graham and Sheila](https://www.flickr.com/people/grahamandsheila/) “[camping with babies:](https://www.flickr.com/photos/janeboles/8005394467/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [jane boles](https://www.flickr.com/people/janeboles/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** babies --- ### [How to Sleep in a Tent with a Baby (and Actually Get Rest)](https://momgoescamping.com/sleep-tent-with-baby/) **Published:** December 1, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** The most stressful part of camping with a baby is sleeping in a tent.  If you are worried about your baby getting cold in the tent, which sleeping bag to use, how to get your baby to sleep, or anything else related to sleeping in a tent with a baby, here’s what you need to know. Read more about camping with young kids below: - [How to Give a Baby a Bath When Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/give-baby-bath-camping/) - [How to Plan Your First Camping Trip with Kids](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-plan-your-first-camping-trip-with-kids-a-moms-guide/) - See the [best baby camping chairs](https://momgoescamping.com/the-only-baby-camping-chairs-worth-buying/) for outdoor use here. ## 1. Choose a Bigger Tent ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/crowded-tent-with-baby.jpg "crowded tent with baby - Mom Goes Camping")*It was a bit crowded in this 3 person tent* Because of all the extra space your baby requires (so you don’t roll over on her and have room for all her extra stuff), you may want a bigger tent.  Two adults plus a baby will likely need a tent for *at least* 4 or 5 people – not just three. Another benefit of a larger tent is that you will probably get more headroom.  This extra headroom is very useful when you’ve got to sit up to breastfeed in the middle of the night.  Or when you are trying to put a sleeping baby in the tent without waking her. If you want to use a portable playpen or crib in the tent, you’ll probably need a cabin-type tent because they have vertical walls which give you much more interior space. ### Got More than One Kid? Consider Using Two Tents I have an older daughter and didn’t want her getting woken up by the baby at night.  So, our solution was to bring two tents.  I stayed in one tent with the baby and my daughter and husband stayed in the other tent.   Having an extra tent also helps keep things more organized. ## 2. Get Your Baby a Sleeping Bag Don’t try to co-sleep with your baby in the same sleeping bag ([here’s why](https://momgoescamping.com/co-sleeping-baby-camping/)). You and your baby will be more comfortable in your own sleeping bags. Currently, there are only two brands that make baby sleeping bags for camping in the USA.  In warmer weather, you can put your baby in comfy jammies and a sleep sack.  But, in colder temperatures, you really need a proper sleeping bag for your baby. Read my reviews of the [best baby sleeping bags for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/best-baby-sleeping-bags-camping/) here. [![best sleeping bags for babies](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/morrison-sleeping-bag-for-baby.jpg "morrison sleeping bag for baby - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/morrison-sleeping-bag-for-baby.jpg)Morrison is one of the few brands which makes camping sleeping bags for babies  Read [my review](https://momgoescamping.com/morrison-baby-sleeping-bag/) here ## 3. Get a Sleeping Pad for Your Baby I’m a minimalist camper and usually carry all the gear to camp (aka backpacking), so my baby mostly just sleeps on her own sleeping pad.  It’s important that the sleeping pad is firm and has a higher R-value so it insulates against the ground. Do NOT use an inflatable air mattress! Babies should sleep on a hard surface.  Plus, inflatable air mattresses are heat sinks and thus not warm. It is safer to use a foam or self-inflating mattress instead. **Pro Tip:** Put a fleece jacket over the top of the sleeping pad (zipper side down). This creates a large, soft surface for your baby’s head.  I also use wrap a few diapers in a towel for her to use as a pillow. **Read: [Best Camping Sleeping Pads for Babies](https://momgoescamping.com/baby-sleeping-pads-camping/) [![Therm-a-Rest Ridgerest foam sleeping pad](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/ridgerest.jpg "ridgerest - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/ridgerest.jpg)*This closed cell mat has an R value of 26 Fold it in half to get an R value of 52 It is insanely affordable [Buy it here](https://amzn.to/2Cb8ZLi)* ### Making sure your baby stays on the sleeping pad: If your baby rolls off the sleeping pad, the ground will quickly suck their body heat and cause them to get cold. I put a full backpack alongside my baby so she can’t roll off the pad at night. I know of other campers who bring a full body pillow to put next to the pad. Another option is to simply have your baby sleep *between* you and your partner.  This keeps them in place.  The downside is that *both* of you end up getting kicked in the face :p [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/rolling-off-sleeping-mat.jpg "rolling off sleeping mat - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/rolling-off-sleeping-mat.jpg)Your baby will inevitably roll off their pad Put something next to the sleeping pad so your child doesnt end up on the cold ground Image from Morrison Sleeping Bags ## 4. Consider a Portable Baby Bed or Cot Once your baby starts crawling or walking, you’ve got to worry about them getting out of bed in the middle of the night.  One solution is to bring a portable baby bed for them. Or, if your tent is big enough, you can put a portable playpen in the tent.  A baby bed is also good if you are worried about rolling over your baby at night. Note that **you may still need to use a sleeping pad.** Cold air will circulate underneath the playpen or portable crib, drawing heat away from your body. So, put a sleeping pad in the play pen under your baby.  Alternatively, use a few thick blankets to line the playpen. **Read: [Best portable baby beds for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/baby-camping-beds/).** [![Pack n Play for camping with a baby](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/camping-with-baby-travelmadmum.jpg "camping with baby travelmadmum - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/camping-with-baby-travelmadmum.jpg)[Travel Mad Mum](https://travelmadmum.com/camping-baby/) uses this awesome setup shown above when camping with her baby  At night the baby wore a vest sleep suit sleep sack hat mittens and a light blanket on top The Pack n Play is super useful for baby to play in during the day too                                           **Taking the kids camping for the first time?** My “Your Family’s First Camping Trip” bundle has the complete guide, printable packing checklist, and three done-for-you itineraries — everything from booking the site to the drive home. **[                                                                         Get the bundle →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/1stcampingtrip)** ## 5. Invest in Good Pajamas The key to keeping your baby warm and comfortable while sleeping is to put your baby in pajamas made from breathable materials. Merino wool is a great material because it will insulate even when wet.  If you are on a budget, fleece is a good alternative. **Read: [Best camping pajamas for kids and babies](https://momgoescamping.com/best-camping-pajamas-for-kids/)** [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/babydeedee-fleece-pajamas-for-camping.jpg "babydeedee fleece pajamas for camping - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/babydeedee-fleece-pajamas-for-camping.jpg)Baby DeeDee makes [these cute fleece jammies](https://www.babydeedee.com/collections/accessories/products/fleece-bear-buntings?rfsn=2817540.21ff00&variant=31755207213115) which are great for camping available in sizes from 3 to 24 months **Pro Tip: Resist the urge to over-bundle your baby** because you are worried they will get cold. This will cause your baby to SWEAT.  Then your baby will be WET.  And then you will really worry that she is cold and won’t know whether to remove layers to stop the sweating or put on more layers to protect against evaporative cooling (again, speaking from experience). ## 6. Get a Lamp with a Red Light Setting Your baby needs to be fed/changed/soothed in the middle of the night?  You’ll need to turn on a lamp to see in the tent… And good luck getting your baby back to sleep with the bright light on! A soluiton is to get a lamp with a red light setting.  The red light gives you visibility without blinding your baby or waking up anyone in your tent. You can even leave the red light setting on as a nightlight. ## 7. Have Backups in Case of Accidents Diaper explosions, projectile vomiting, spilled bottles… These are never fun, but could cause a serious problem if they occur while camping.  If your baby’s sleeping bag or pajamas end up wet, they won’t have a way to stay warm.  This is why you need to bring backups. Backup pjs is fairly easy.  But you probably don’t want to buy a backup sleeping bag.  Instead, here are two solutions: - **Diaper Leak Catcher:** Put a waterproof pad inside the sleeping bag under your baby.  This will catch most leaks. The PJs will still need to be changed but at least the sleeping bag stays clean.  Alternatively, you can spread out several diapers underneath your baby to catch any leaks. - **Adult down jacket = backup sleeping bag:** As AniaLife talks about in her great [post about traveling with babies](https://anialife.wordpress.com/2012/07/13/traveling-with-babies/), you can wrap a baby in an adult down jackets to use as a sleeping bag. [![down jacket as sleeping bag for baby](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/camping-with-baby-anialife.jpg "camping with baby anialife - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/camping-with-baby-anialife.jpg)Baby wrapped in a Patagonia down jacket it makes a great backup sleeping bag ## 8. Wear a Down Jacket if Breastfeeding in the Tent The main issue with breastfeeding in a tent is that mom has to get at least her torso out of the sleeping bag.  This means that her upper body can get very cold. A good solution [from Tanya of Rockies Family Adventures](http://www.rockiesfamilyadventures.com/2012/04/family-camping-made-easy-warm-sleepers.html) is for **mom to wear a down jacket while sleeping**.  Then you can keep your upper body out of the sleeping bag without it getting cold. Just unzip the jacket when it’s time to feed. Here’s a picture (below) of Tanya and her baby all bundled up and ready for bed! [![Tanya Koob, Rockies Family Advventures](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Tanya-Koob-Rockies-Family-Advventures.jpg "Tanya Koob, Rockies Family Advventures - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Tanya-Koob-Rockies-Family-Advventures.jpg) ## 9. Reserve the most isolated campsite I get very stressed about annoying neighbors while camping. So, when making reservations with a campground, I always tell them that we are coming with a baby and ask for the most remote campsite. Then it isn’t such a big deal if my baby cries in the middle of the night. Also read: [Is it rude to camp with a baby?](https://momgoescamping.com/is-it-rude-to-camp-with-a-baby/) ## 10. Getting Your Baby to Fall Asleep When my daughter was a newborn, she actually slept better in the tent than at home in her crib.  I guess all the fresh air tired her out.  But, as she got older, getting her to fall asleep became harder.  She was too excited to nap and wanted to “escape” the tent at night to play some more.   I did learn some tricks to make sleep time easier with a baby while camping. Here they are. - **Put on PJs early:** You don’t want to wake a sleeping baby to put pajamas on.  So make sure you put PJs on before bedtime.  Then your baby will already be dressed for bed if she crashes early. - **Put your baby in the sleeping bag early:** I even take things a step further and make my daughter get in her sleeping bag before bedtime.  When she falls asleep in my arms in front of the campfire, all I have to do is transfer her to the tent. - **Make sure your baby has plenty of time to crawl/run:** Try not to keep your baby in the carrier or stroller too much during the day. Then they will get tired out and (hopefully) sleep better.  Bring a rain suit or gigantic picnic blanket so she can be on the ground without getting wet or dirty. - **Don’t stress too much about bedtime schedules:** While it’s nice to maintain your normal schedule as much as possible, don’t obsess over it.  Naps are bound to happen at different times, which in turn means your child might end up going to sleep at night at a different time. ## 11. Keeping a Baby from “Escaping” A very legit concern about camping with crawling or walking babies is whether they will wander off in the middle of the night.   Here are some solutions that I’ve gotten from other parents. - Do the zips up high where your baby can’t reach them. - Consider using a portable playpen or crib in the tent; one which is too high for them to crawl out of on their own. - Sleep across the doorway. Then your baby will have to crawl over you to get out at night. \*Do NOT lock the tent door in anyway.  If you need to escape quickly, you won’t be able to get out. ## Sleeping in a Tent with a Baby FAQ: #### How do you keep a baby warm sleeping in a tent? Layer correctly: a firm sleeping pad with a high R-value on the bottom (cold comes from the ground, not the air), a proper baby sleeping bag rated for the temperature, and breathable pajamas underneath. Check the back of their neck not their hands to gauge warmth. Hands are always cold; neck warmth tells you if they’re comfortable. A hat adds meaningful warmth for cold nights. #### What temperature is safe for a baby to sleep in a tent? Most pediatricians recommend keeping babies between 68°F and 72°F (20°C to 22°C) for sleep. Below 60°F (15°C) requires serious sleeping bag insulation and layering; below 50°F is getting into territory where most camping parents choose to go home or move to a car. Premature babies and newborns are more vulnerable to temperature extremes and should be kept in a narrower range. #### Should a baby sleep in its own sleeping bag or with you in the tent? Their own sleeping bag, on their own sleeping pad, next to you. Co-sleeping in the same sleeping bag creates suffocation and overheating risks. A baby-specific sleeping bag like the Morrison Little Mo or BabyDeeDee Sleep Nest is designed to keep them safely contained at the right temperature without needing to share yours. #### How do you stop a baby from rolling off the sleeping pad in a tent? Put a backpack, rolled sleeping bag, or body pillow alongside the pad edge as a barrier. Alternatively, have your baby sleep between you and your partner they won’t roll off, though you will both get kicked. A sleeping bag with a pad sleeve prevents rolling off in one direction while the barrier handles the other side. #### How do you handle nighttime diaper changes in a tent? Get a lamp with a red light setting so you can see without blinding your baby or waking everyone else. Keep diapers, wipes, and a change of pajamas in a bag right next to you so you’re not fumbling in the dark. Put a waterproof pad inside the sleeping bag under your baby to catch leaks so the bag stays dry. Change fast, keep the tent warm, and get everyone back to sleep as quickly as possible. **Have you gone camping with a baby? Let us know your sleep advice in the comments below.** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** babies --- ### [Backpacking with Kids: A Mom's Guide to Crafting Epic Outdoor Adventures](https://momgoescamping.com/guide-backpacking-kids/) **Published:** November 12, 2018 **Author:** Diane **Content:** It’s an understatement to say that lots of planning goes into backpacking with kids.  There’s the basics like where you will go and how far you can realistically hike per day with kids.  Then there are the things like what food to pack or how to keep your kids safe while still letting them play freely in nature. But all that planning is definitely worth it. I actually enjoy backpacking *more* when I’m with kids.  They get fascinated by the little things — like cool bugs or the mini ecosystems in a puddle – and that makes me appreciate nature even more. And considering how much screen time today’s kids get, it’s nice that screens aren’t even an option!  Without the distractions, I feel like a better parent and we enjoy our time together. My older daughter is now 13 years old.  Her first trip was when she was 3.   I’ve since had another child and she went on her first trip at 3 months old. 🙂 So, this advice is based on 10+ years of experience backpacking with kids.  Hopefully it will help you plan your own trip. **Jump to:** - [**Planning**](#planning) - **[How Far Can Kids Backpack?](#howfar)** - **[Gear](#gear)** - **[Your Kid’s Pack](#kidspack)** - **[Food](#food)** - [**Safety**](#safety)  **\[sta\_anchor id=”planning” /\]** ## **Planning the Trip** ### Where to Go? While I’m sure there are a lot of amazing backpacking destinations on your bucket list, your first trip with your kids should meet these requirements: - **Close to the trailhead:** If something goes wrong and you need to bail, you will be able to get out quickly.  Ideally, stay within 2 miles of the trailhead on your first backpacking trip with kids. - **Little elevation gain:** The moment the trail gets steep, your kids will start complaining.  So avoid any super-steep trails until your kids get the hang of backpacking. - **No dangerous wildlife:** Everyone will be stressed out if you have to constantly pester your kids not to leave food out because of problematic bears, or to watch their step because of the venomous snakes. - **Water!** Kids love splashing and playing in water. Look for lakes, ponds or streams and your kids will be entertained for hours. Plus, you’ll have a source of drinking water so you don’t have to carry as much H20 with you.  **Bonus Points for Places:** - **With a pit toilet:** Seriously, you will be much happier if you don’t have to dig a hole to go to the bathroom. This is especially true if you have little kids since they don’t give you much warning before they need to go. - **Where you’ve already been (but your kids haven’t).** That way you will know what the terrain is like and are less likely to get lost. 😉 - **Which allow campfires:** A campfire is one of the best parts of backpacking, so it’s worth going somewhere without any burn bans in place. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/backpacking-with-kids-where-to-go.jpg "backpacking with kids where to go - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/backpacking-with-kids-where-to-go.jpg)Water means endless entertainment ### How Many Nights? In my experience, two to four nights seems to be the “sweet spot” when just starting with backpacking with kids. Less than two nights and they don’t have time to adjust from the trip and really get into it.  More than 4 nights and you risk everyone getting grumpy when the good bits of trail mix run out.  Plus, 4 nights means a lot more weight in your pack since you will inevitably be carrying most of the food. That said, I’ve gone on 14 day backpacking trips with my daughter.   The trips were broken up though.  For example, 3-5 nights in the wilderness and then 1-2 nights in town for refueling (plus showers and fresh food) before heading back into the wilderness. ### Thru-Hike or Base Camp? I *don’t* recommend thru-hiking with kids.  The stress of having to hike so many miles per day and setting up camp each night can be too much. Instead, start with “base camp” backpacking: hike up to a really nice spot to serve as your base camp.  Then you can do day hikes from this location. **TIP: Stay Off Instagram** While Instagram can be great to get you inspired, it can also set some unrealistic expectations. It’s okay if your kid can’t hike 12 miles each day, isn’t the youngest person to complete the AT, or has a meltdown on the trail. Not every backpacking trip with your kids needs to be an epic adventure.  START SMALL.  And, trust me, those influencers aren’t showing all the meltdowns their kids had in route to capturing those Instgram-worthy pics. \[sta\_anchor id=”howfar” /\] ## How Far Can Kids Backpack? As a general rule, each leg of the backpacking trip should be no more than 2-3 miles for little kids and no more than 5 miles for older kids. These guidelines ensure there is plenty of time for your kids to explore and have fun in nature instead of just logging miles.  It also keeps the stress down since you won’t have to worry about making it to camp before nightfall. After you’ve got a few trips under your belts, you might decide to increase this amount.  If not, that’s fine too.  My older daughter prefers the hanging-around-camp part of backpacking more than the hiking part, so our trips don’t cover many more miles now than when she was little. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/backpacking-with-kids-1.jpg "backpacking with kids 1 - Mom Goes Camping")This trail was easy so my daughter at 7 years old was easily able to do 4 miles without much whining **Also read:** - [**How far kids can hike, by age group** ](https://momgoescamping.com/how-far-can-kids-hike/) - **[Calculate how long to complete a hike](https://momgoescamping.com/how-long-complete-hike/)** - [**Ways to motivate your kids to hike**](https://momgoescamping.com/motivate-little-kids-hike/) ### Kids Are Finnicky with their Hiking Even if you *think* you know low far your kids can trek, remember that kids are finicky.  One day they might go really fast.  Other times they lack motivation and will want to take a break every 5 minutes. The elevation and terrain also make a huge difference. When my older daughter was four, it took us 5 HOURS to hike 2 miles up a difficult trail to base camp!  Luckily we started early so I didn’t have to scream at my daughter to “hurry up before night falls!” [![planning backpacking trip with kids](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/hike-took-forever.jpg "hike took forever - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/hike-took-forever.jpg)*It took 5 HOURS to go 2 miles up on this tough trail  The next year we were able to do thee samem leg in just 2 hours*  \[sta\_anchor id=”gear” /\] ## **Backpacking Gear for Kids** [![family camping gear list](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/family-gear-800-420.jpg "family gear for camping - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/family-gear-800-420.jpg) The gear I bring backpacking with kids isn’t much different than if I was solo.  The only real difference is that my kids get an extra change of clothes and we bring more fun items like binnoculars and a deck of cards.  Oh, and a stuffed animal always comes along!  The image above shows what my family packed for a combo 12-day backpacking/camping trip.  The kids were 4 and 11 years old at the time. **You can get [my downloadable gear list here](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Backpacking-and-Minimalist-Camping-Checklist.pdf).** Read more about what to pack below: [Hiking Packing List: 12 Things to Always Have on the Trail](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-packing-list/) ### Family Backpacking Tent It’s usually just me and one of my kids on a backpacking trip (I have yet to attempt a trip with both girls; their big age difference means they have different paces and interests and everyone would probably get annoyed!).  Because I’m petite, we can easily fit into a 2-person tent. That said, a larger tent would definitely be more comfortable.  Kids have a tendency to roll around in the tent and kick you in the face. So, a 3 person tent for 1 adult plus 1 child is best. If 2 adults are taking 2 children backpacking, you’ll probably want two tents. Also read: [Lightweight Family Backpacking Tents: 4 Best Options](https://momgoescamping.com/family-backpacking-tents/) [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/cloud-up-2-durability.jpg "cloud up 2 durability - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/cloud-up-2-durability.jpg)My daughter and I both fit into the [Naturehike Cloudup 2](https://momgoescamping.com/naturehike-cloudup-2-review/) Its a cheap ultralight tent ### **Kids will need their own:** A lot of gear – such as the tent, stove, potty trowel and bear bag rope — you will share between you.  But kids will need their own of these items: - Backpack – see these [good youth backpacking packs](https://momgoescamping.com/best-kids-hiking-backpacks/) - Sleeping bag – see these [best kids sleeping bags](https://momgoescamping.com/best-kids-sleeping-bags/) - Sleeping pad - Headlamp – see these [best kids headlamps](https://momgoescamping.com/best-kids-headlamps/) - Whistle - Water bottle - Bowl/cup/spork - Towel (don’t make the mistake of trying to share a towel with your kid!) - Pillow (if you use one; we just roll up our jackets) None of these items need to be expensive. For years, my daughter slept on a $10 foam pad on our trips. Her headlamp was a cheap Coleman one. The sleeping bag is a bit trickier since it’s hard to find secondhand youth sleeping bags which are actually lightweight and warm enough for backpacking.  Unfortunately, kids can’t sleep in adult sleeping bags; all the extra space means they don’t trap heat as well. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/backpacking-with-kids-sleepign-bag.jpg "backpacking with kids sleepign bag - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/backpacking-with-kids-sleepign-bag.jpg)My younger daughter 5 years old in this pic in her [Morrison Mighty Mo sleeping bag](https://morrisonoutdoors.com/products/mighty-mo-40-kids-sleeping-bag-4-6?aff=3)                                                **Taking the kids camping for the first time?** My “Your Family’s First Camping Trip” bundle has the complete guide, printable packing checklist, and three done-for-you itineraries — everything from booking the site to the drive home. **[                                                                      Get the bundle →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/1stcampingtrip)** ### **Bring Extra:** These items are worth bringing extras of.  I’ve learned the hard way! :p - **Spare batteries:** Seriously, kids really love to use headlamps and you’ll blow through batteries faster than you expect. - **Toilet paper.** It doesn’t weigh much and you’ll be happier to have extra than not enough and needing it! - **Socks and underwear.** - **Change of clothes.** Kids have a tendency to do things like spill pasta all over themselves. In colder conditions, I bring a backup set of clothes.  In summer, I don’t worry as much because the clothes dry quickly. ### **Fun Items to Pack for Your Kids:** In addition to the essentials, I often bring these items when backpacking with my kids: - **Drawing notebooks and pencils** - **Deck of cards** - **Net** - **Lightweight bowl**: Good for holding tadpoles, fish or other creatures you catch with the net. - **Multi-tool/mini scissors:** I use these to make nature crafts with the kids when outdoors. See some [ideas here](https://momgoescamping.com/activities-entertain-kids-camping/). - **Specimen cups:** For when your kid finds a cool dead bug and wants to bring it home. Tic-Tac containers work well for this. - **Binnoculars** - **Favorite toy:** I’m really strict about this. It has to be small and lightweight! They are required to carry it in their own pack. My girls usually choose a stuffed animal. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/backpacking-with-kids-net.jpg "backpacking with kids net - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/backpacking-with-kids-net.jpg)A net is one fun item thats almost always worth packing ### Note about Backpacking Clothes for Kids Since I go backpacking with my kids often, I don’t have a problem shelling out money for gear which will last for multiple seasons.  However, I don’t buy my kids expensive backpacking clothes.  They grow out of it too quickly for it to be worth the cost. When I first started backpacking with my older daughter, I just brought her normal clothes.  Yes, cotton!  This meant I had to bring lots of extras in case they got wet. But, at the time, I preferred carrying more weight over paying for outdoors clothing. Since then, I’ve found a few good secondhand stores where I can find cheap Merino wool base layers and other quality outdoors clothing for kids.  It also helps that my girls both have stopped insisting on wearing dresses all the time, even while hiking. :p   But the point is you don’t have to invest money in “proper” backpacking clothes when you aren’t even sure this is something you will do regularly. **Also read: [Can You Wear Cotton Backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/is-it-okay-to-wear-cotton-hiking/), and [Is It Okay to Hike in Sneakers?](https://momgoescamping.com/do-you-really-need-hiking-boots/)** [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/whining.jpg "whining - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/whining.jpg)Yes thats cotton shes wearing My girls annoyingly insisted on wearing dresses all of the time At 4 years old no amount of logic could convince them to just wear pants \[sta\_anchor id=”kidspack” /\] ## Your Kid’s Pack ### Kid’s Pack Weight As a general rule, young kids shouldn’t carry more than 5% of their bodyweight when backpacking and older kids no more than 10% to 15%. To put this in perspective, an 8-year-old child’s pack probably shouldn’t weigh more than 5lbs.   Put a liter of water in their pack and they are already at half that. It’s incredibly important that you don’t weigh your kids pack more than this.  If their pack is heavy, they might hate backpacking. **For more detailed info on this, read: [How much weight can kids carry when backpacking?](https://momgoescamping.com/how-much-weight-kids-carry-backpacking/)** [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/backpacking-with-kids-pack.jpg "backpacking with kids pack - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/backpacking-with-kids-pack.jpg)Even though theres hardly anything in her pack she feels proud carrying her own backpack ### What Should Your Kids Carry in their Packs? - **Safety items:** In case you get separated, kids should have survival items like a whistle and water with them. Read which **safety items to always keep with you when hiking**. - **Their own toys:** Once I got strict about “If you want to bring it, you have to carry it,” my girls stopped wanting to bring large toys. - **Lightweight items:** Like the toilet paper and their sleeping bag. ### **Your Backpack Will Be Heavy!** Your kids can’t carry too much, and you are probably packing more comfort or “just in case” items.  So, your pack will end up a LOT heavier than if you were backpacking solo. Oh, and don’t be surprised if you end up carrying your kid’s pack too! I admit to caving in and lugging my daughter’s pack after she starting whining that it was too heavy. Anything you can do to reduce the weight of your pack will make a huge difference.  For example: - Planning your trip around water sources so you don’t have to carry water - Making a precise meal plan with calorie counts - Investing in a few key pieces of ultralight gear **For more, read: [how to reduce weight from your pack](https://momgoescamping.com/ultralight-backpacking-tips/).** [![carrying kid while hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/carrying-isabel.jpg "carrying isabel - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/carrying-isabel.jpg)*Sometimes you end up carrying your kid and not just their pack on day hikes* ## Food Read more about backpacking foods here: [Backpacking Supermarket Foods](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-supermarket-foods/) When it comes to kids and backpacking, **food can make or break the trip.** I’ve found that food can be a great motivator. Like breaking out the Sour Patch kids during a particularly difficult section of the trail.  Or the promise of roasted marshmallows over a fire once we reach camp… Also note that the adage “everything tastes better in nature” does not apply to kids.  If your kids are picky eaters in everyday life, they will still be picky while backpacking.  Bring the wrong foods and they won’t eat it.  Which means they will be hungry.  And CRANKY. **Below are guidelines to make sure you plan the food well.** ### **Trail Mix and Snacks:** - **Let kids pick out their own trail mix.** Don’t force healthy options on them. - **Divide the trail mix into separate bags, with one bag per day.** Otherwise they will eat all of their favorite snacks on day one and only have the less-good stuff on the later days (this applies to adults too!) - **At least half of calories from snacks.** Your kids will be snacking continuously throughout the day and probably won’t want to eat a big meal. - **Bring some luxury foods.** By “luxury,” I mean ones which aren’t necessarily calorie-dense but will make everyone happy. For my kids, that’s marshmallows. ### **Meals:** - **Test all meals at home first.** Don’t spring new foods on kids on the trip! - **Get them involved.** Give a few options and let your kids choose what you will eat for meals.  My kids would choose Ramen for every meal. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/backpacking-with-kids-snacks.jpg "backpacking with kids snacks - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/backpacking-with-kids-snacks.jpg)Good snacks can save your trip \[sta\_anchor id=”safety” /\] ## **Safety** ### **Think Worst Case Scenarios!** Before you go backpacking with your kids for the first time, a lot of scary thoughts will probably run through your mind. *“What if someone gets hurt?” “What if there’s a gear failure?” “What if someone gets bit by a snake???”* Instead of ignoring these fears or saying, I embrace them.  I ask myself *why* I’m scared.  Then I ask what can be done to address the fears. For example, in case someone gets hurt, I’ve got a first aid kit and plan trips so we are never too far away from the trailhead in case we need emergency help. This approach ensures that I am prepared for anything. **Side note:** I didn’t worry about these things so much when it was just me and friends backpacking.  But simply hoping that “everything will be fine” does NOT cut it once you are 100% responsible for someone else! ### **Make an Exit Plan** Never go backpacking with kids without a solid exit plan. Now, an “exit plan” doesn’t have to mean that you completely bail on the trip.  For example, my daughter and I backpacked to a gorgeous glacier lake at 6,500 ft.  We set up camp with the intention of staying 3 nights.  But the weather turned crappy and we weren’t enjoying ourselves. So we hiked down to the nearest village and pitched our tent in someone’s yard (with his permission). The weather at 5,000 ft. was much better than at the peak.  The nature might not have been as “breathtaking” but we had a blast anyway. ### **Laying Out Safety Rules** One of the best parts of backpacking with kids is that they get to do what educators call “risky play.” Doing things like rock-hopping over streams or climbing boulders does wonders for their self-confidence. Overcoming trail challenges helps them build resilience. **In my experience, the key to successful risky play is setting rules.** It might sound contradictory to set rules about play. Aren’t we supposed to be letting our kids run free?  But setting clear rules actually provides a framework where your child’s creativity can flourish.    They don’t have to worry about crossing lines or making mistakes, so feel more free within those boundaries. The rules also help you feel more relaxed, so you don’t have to interrupt your child’s play with warnings to “be careful.” #### **Some rules I establish when backpacking with my kids:** - **Hiking ahead:** When little, my kids had to stay within eyesight. When they got older, they were allowed to hike ahead but there were rules about having to stop at each fork in the trail and wait. - **Wild animal safety.** My kids know what to do in case they see wild animals. Also, there are rules like “no lifting large rocks” because venomous snakes may be hiding underneath. - **Stay on trail:** I don’t let my kids go off-trail alone at all. You might make a different rule for your kids though! - **Exploring alone:** When my daughter got older, I let her walk away from camp on her own a bit, but was clear that she always had to bring basic survival equipment including a whistle with her. - **Cliff edges:** How far back they need to stay. - **Water safety:** Kids may need to stay a safe distance away from deep water. - **Campfire rules:** No running near the fire ever. I let my kids poke the campfire with sticks (they love this!) but must be sitting and can’t raise the sticks into the air. ## Backpacking with Kids FAQ: #### What age can kids start backpacking? There’s no minimum babies can go in a carrier from a few months old. The more useful question is what age kids can carry their own pack and hike meaningful distances independently. Most kids can manage a light pack and 2-3 miles by age 5 or 6. By age 8-10, backpacking starts to feel like a real adventure rather than just a modified family hike. #### How far should kids hike per day when backpacking? For young kids (under 6): 1-3 miles per day with plenty of stops. For older kids (6-10): 3-5 miles. For kids 10 and up who’ve built up experience: 5-8 miles is realistic. These are guidelines, not rules terrain, elevation gain, weather, and how your specific child is feeling on a given day matter more than age. #### What food should you bring backpacking with kids? Let them pick their own snacks and give them more input than you think is wise it matters enormously for morale. Divide trail mix into per-day bags so favorites don’t disappear on day one. Test all meals at home first; picky eaters don’t become adventurous eaters just because you’re in the woods. Ramen, mac and cheese, quesadillas, and instant mashed potatoes are reliable kid-approved backpacking meals. #### How do you keep kids safe while backpacking? Set clear rules before you leave how far ahead they can hike, what to do at trail forks, campfire behavior, and what to do if they get separated (hug a tree and blow the whistle). Every kid should carry their own whistle and at least some water. Plan trips so you’re never more than a few miles from the trailhead on a first outing, and always have an exit plan if things go sideways. #### What’s the biggest mistake parents make when backpacking with kids? Overloading the kids’ packs. If their pack is heavy, they will hate backpacking full stop. Young kids should carry no more than 5% of their body weight; older kids 10-15%. That’s almost nothing. Carry the extra weight yourself and let them carry their toy and maybe their sleeping bag. A kid who arrives at camp with energy left is a kid who wants to come back next year. **Have you gone backpacking with your kids? What advice would you add? Let us know in the comments!** --- Resources: <https://wellbeingswithalysia.com/risk-taking-play-outdoors-for-toddlers/>, <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3499858/>, <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6993091/>, <https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18466909/> ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Backpacking, Camping with Kids **Tags:** backpacking, kids --- ### [Stroller vs. Hiking Carrier](https://momgoescamping.com/stroller-vs-hiking-carrier/) **Published:** August 20, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Want to go hiking with your baby or toddler and aren’t sure whether a stroller or hiking carrier is better? Like most things in life, there are a lot of variables to consider. Here’s my take. Read more about strollers and hiking carriers below: - [How Far Can Kids Hike?](https://momgoescamping.com/how-far-can-kids-hike/) - [Trail Magik Carrier Review](https://momgoescamping.com/trail-magik-carrier-review/) ## The short answer: If you don’t mind limiting yourself to stroller-friendly paths, then hike with a stroller. It will be more comfortable for you *and* your child – especially if your child is older or heavier.  However, strollers will really limit the places you can hike. If you are confident in your ability to carry your child *and* want to get off-the-beaten-path, then go with a carrier. **Personally…** I used a carrier when my child was young and still relatively lightweight.  Now that she’s a toddler, I’ve mostly resigned myself to stroller-friendly hikes. I’ll still sometimes use the carrier on tougher hikes, but make sure to keep the hike short so I don’t get exhausted. Sometimes, I’ll even use a combo: I start with the stroller on an accessible path.  When the path gets too narrow/bumpy, I’ll lock the stroller to a tree with a flexible bike lock. My daughter then goes in the carrier for the rest of the way. She goes back into the stroller on the way back. **Tips:** - **Don’t mess around. Use trekking poles with a hiking carrier!** It will redistribute the weight, save your back, and improve balance. - **Get a wrist strap if using a hiking stroller.** Wearing it gives me peace of mind that the stroller won’t go rolling away if I fall while on a steep slope. [![diane vukovic](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/diane-and-lidija-hiking-carrier.jpg "diane and lidija hiking carrier - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/diane-and-lidija-hiking-carrier.jpg)*About to start a hike  My two year old loves being in her carrier and the backpack frame makes it easier to carry her than a soft carrier* ## Still not sure whether a stroller or carrier is better? **Below are some questions to help you decide.** ### How Heavy Is Your Child? When my daughter was a baby, I had no problem carrying her in a hiking carrier.  But now she is two years old and weighs 28lbs.  Add in the weight of the carrier (the famous [Deuter Kid Comfort carrier](https://amzn.to/34gWhqB) weighs 7lbs!), water and other supplies and it gets even heavier. Most backpacking gurus recommend you carry no more than 20-25% of your bodyweight.  The UI Hospitals & Clinics Rehabilitation Services team [recommends](https://uihc.org/health-topics/your-backpack-too-heavy) carrying no more than 10% of your bodyweight! Under that recommendation, I shouldn’t be carrying my child at all. :/ A frame hiking carrier does make it easier to carry all this weight.  But they are expensive and don’t fit short, small women well. **Read:** - [Best hiking child carriers for petite women](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-child-carrier-petite-women/) - [Soft vs. frame backpack child carriers](https://momgoescamping.com/soft-vs-frame-backpack-hiking-carrier/) - [Expert tips for using child hiking carriers](https://momgoescamping.com/tips-child-hiking-carriers/)                                                  **Taking the kids camping for the first time?** My “Your Family’s First Camping Trip” bundle has the complete guide, printable packing checklist, and three done-for-you itineraries — everything from booking the site to the drive home. **[                                                                  Get the bundle →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/1stcampingtrip)** ### Is It Safe for You to Use a Hiking Carrier? Bear in mind that a too-heavy load (aka *your child)* reduces balance and makes it easier to fall.  Do you really want to fall while wearing your child? I definitely turned back on some hikes because the trail was too steep and I didn’t feel comfortable carrying my child. ### How Fit Are You? I carried my first child everywhere until she was almost three years old.  Back then, I was in my 20s and it didn’t faze me.  My second daughter was born when I was in my 30s.  What a difference a decade makes! My core muscles are also permanently weakened due to recti diastasis.  Now, my back gets sore with my daughter in the carrier even on short hikes. ### How Eager Are You to Go On Tough Trails? Let’s be honest: most stroller-friendly trails are pretty boring.  They are also often crowded, so that’s not much fun either.   If you are very eager to go on a specific trail which isn’t suitable for strollers, then you’ll have no choice but to use a carrier. ### Are You Hiking Alone or with a Partner? Using hiking carriers is a bit of a pain.  Even if it has a built-in storage compartment, it won’t hold too much (and you’ll need a lot of extra things for your child). Without a partner, you’ll be stuck carrying all this yourself – and have to remove the carrier completely to access any gear. I find also it annoying to access my water bottle from a hiking carrier; I have to ask my partner to get it each time I want a drink. Because of this, I almost always choose the stroller when hiking alone. ### Is Your Stroller Designed for Hiking? Umbrella strollers are NOT suitable for hiking. Unless it is a completely paved trail *and* is well-maintained, almost all hiking paths are too bumpy for those small folding strollers.  Your child will feel every single bump and not be very comfortable.  Your arms will also get very tired from the vibrations of pushing over the bumpy terrain. However, it is possible to hike with some strollers – even off of paved roads. The stroller needs to have large wheels and preferably a suspension/shock-absorbing system.  My Pertini stroller is fine on most paths, even if my daughter does get bumped when going over root growths and rocks. **Read: [Best off-road hiking strollers](https://momgoescamping.com/all-terrain-strollers-hiking/)** ### Does Your Child Like to Sleep in the Stroller? My daughter loves to sleep in her stroller.  And I love to relax while she’s sleeping. 🙂  She will also sleep in her carrier, but it doesn’t seem very comfortable and she definitely doesn’t sleep as long.  I’ve tried to gently put her down while still in the carrier and she’ll inevitably wake up. ## **Tips:** ### **Check Trail Suitability before You Go** There are lots of great apps that will let you know whether a path or trail is suitable for strollers.  On [AllTrails](https://www.alltrails.com/), for example, you can look for trails that are tagged with “kid friendly” or “handicap accessible.” Of course, staying on stroller-accessible trails means you (probably) aren’t going to get far into “wild” nature.  There are usually lots of other hikers (read: crowds) on these paths.  This admittedly annoyed me when I first started hiking with my baby.  So, I made sure to avoid weekends and holidays as much as possible when going with the stroller. ### **Bring both a Stroller *and* Carrier on Hikes.** Keep a soft-frame carrier in the stroller basket. If the terrain gets really rough, put your baby in the carrier.  Then you can plow through the path with your stroller without worrying that it’s too bumpy for your baby. On hikes where we’ll be returning on the same path, I’ve even ditched the stroller when the path got too tough for the stroller.  I keep a bike lock under the stroller and just lock the stroller to a tree in a discreet spot and come back to get it later. ## Stroller vs Hiking Carrier FAQ: #### Is a hiking carrier or stroller better for trails with a baby? For trails with roots, rocks, and elevation change — carrier. For paved or well-maintained gravel paths  stroller. The stroller is more comfortable for both of you on smooth terrain; the carrier is more versatile everywhere else. If you only have one, get a carrier. If you car camp regularly, a good off-road stroller is worth adding. #### At what age can a baby go in a hiking carrier? From birth in a soft front carrier (check the specific carrier’s minimum weight), and from around 6 months in a framed backpack carrier once they have reliable head and neck control. Most parents transition to a framed carrier around 5-6 months and use it until the child is 3-4 years old or becomes too heavy to carry comfortably. #### How heavy is too heavy to carry a child in a hiking carrier? Most backpacking guidelines recommend keeping your total pack weight under 20-25% of your body weight. A 130lb person shouldn’t carry more than 26-32lbs total  which means a 25lb toddler plus a 7lb carrier plus water and snacks already pushes the limit. Know your body, keep hikes shorter as your child grows, and don’t underestimate how much extra weight affects balance on uneven terrain. #### Can you hike with a jogging stroller on trails? Only on smoother trails compacted gravel, wide dirt paths, and paved routes. Standard jogging strollers struggle with rocks, roots, and narrow singletrack. Look for strollers with large air-filled tires and suspension if you want any genuine off-road capability. Even then, a carrier will always outperform a stroller on technical terrain. #### What are the best apps for finding stroller-friendly trails? AllTrails is the most reliable  filter by “kid friendly” or “handicap accessible” to find paved or smooth compacted-surface routes. Many parks also list accessible trails on their own websites. Always read recent reviews before you go, since trail conditions change and what’s listed as “stroller friendly” sometimes means “we tried it once and it was fine” rather than a smooth path. **Bear in mind that your experience might be completely different than mine.  Choose what makes most sense for you and your family to enjoy nature together.** --- **Image credits:** [Quaries.com](https://quaries.com/) and “[Road Warrior 4: Jogging Stroller](https://www.flickr.com/photos/70065313@N00/2478882377/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [ChiefG\_G](https://www.flickr.com/people/70065313@N00/), ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking **Tags:** babies, carriers, stroller, toddlers --- ### [Why Stranger Danger is a Crock of Sh*t](https://momgoescamping.com/stranger-danger/) **Published:** July 27, 2016 **Author:** Diane **Content:** When I grew up, they taught kids a program called “Stranger Danger.”  The goal of stranger danger was to warn kids that bad people are lurking around every corner so you should never get into a car with strangers, take candy from someone you don’t know, or even speak to strangers on the street because they are probably out to kidnap and kill you. Read more about camping safely below: - [Why I’m Not Afraid of Getting Raped](https://momgoescamping.com/not-afraid-getting-raped/) - [11 Life Lessons from Solo Female Hitchhiking](https://momgoescamping.com/hitchhiking-life-lessons/) - [Camping with an ADHD Child](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-with-an-adhd-child/) Maybe that wasn’t the intended message, but that’s the message which I remember! I’m happy to read that some groups are rethinking how stranger danger is taught, but the message is still essentially the same: **Don’t trust people.** **Especially don’t trust people you don’t know.** **And, due to biases in the media and what some researchers claim is our natural inclination to form groups, stranger doesn’t even mean someone you don’t know.  *A “stranger” is someone who is different than you.*** Even if you missed the Stranger Danger program in your school, you still get the message every day.  It comes in the form of the numerous serial killer and rape TV shows aired pretty much nightly.  I admit that I love watching Law & Order and Criminal Minds, but damn it makes me feel paranoid after watching!  And don’t get me started on the fear-mongering in the news. ![I love my weekly dose of paranoia as much as the next person!](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/law-and-order-paranoia.jpg "law and order paranoia - Mom Goes Camping")I love my weekly dose of paranoia as much as the next person ## Most Crimes Are Committed By People We Know The first reason that the Stranger Danger message is a load of crap is because most crimes are NOT committed by strangers.  The majority of crimes are committed by people we know. According to the [Bureau of Justice Statistics](http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=4557), in 2011 strangers committed 38% of nonfatal violent crimes including rape, sexual assault, and robbery.   Between 1993 to 2008, 21-27% of reported homicides were committed by strangers. The rest were by people known to the victim. The [FBI stats](https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded/expanded-homicide-data) for 2011 show that 11.7% of homicides were committed by strangers. When it comes to crimes on children, the stats are even lower.  Only 10% of child victimizers in the USA are strangers. As for sexual offenders, the stats sink even lower. As a [University of New Hampshire report states,](http://scholars.unh.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1002&context=ccrc) > “Despite the stereotypes about stranger molesters and rapists, sex offenses are the crimes least likely to involve strangers as perpetrators.” What about kidnappings?  Despite sensationalized videos showing how vulnerable kids are to kidnapping and misleading stats saying that “700 kids are kidnapped every day,” the reality is much less menacing.  The Department of Justice [reports ](http://www.askyourdadblog.com/2015/05/please-stop-sending-me-joey-salads.html#sthash.eiH8hVJ0.dpuf)that 800,000 children are indeed reported as “missing” each year – but only 115 kidnappings are the result of a stranger snatching the child. Even in these terrible cases, 90% of them return home within 24 hours and the majority are teenage runaways. ### So Why Aren’t We Teaching Kids “Friends and Family” Danger? Like that would ever happen!  Instead, we teach kids to *Be polite* *Give Great Uncle Mort a kiss, even though he smells bad and makes you uncomfortable.* *Never say what you really think, but you might hurt someone’s feelings…* Does all this sound familiar to how you were raised? Now, does it make sense why so many family members and acquaintances get away with violence??? \*By the way, despite what pretty much everyone thinks, CRIME RATES ARE DRASTICALLY FALLING.  Yet, our [*perception* of crime is increasing ](https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/11/20/facts-about-crime-in-the-u-s/)due to something called pessimistic bias. We used to let kids play outdoors unsupervised 50 years ago, but not today — even though crime rates are at the same levels! Okay – the stats don’t reflect the reality of our fears.  But you can never be too safe as a parent, right?  As my obnoxious mother tried to warn me about [hitchhiking with my daughter,](https://momgoescamping.com/why/) “it only takes one bad person.  And how could I live with myself if anything bad happened?” But I consider Stranger Danger the *real* danger for the following reasons. ## Stranger Danger Distracts from the Real Problem Psychologist Dr. Nina Burrowes does a good job of explaining why we *want* to buy into the myth of Stranger Danger in [this video](http://everydayfeminism.com/2014/10/sex-offenders-get-away/).  She says, > *In the case of sexual abuse, one of the things that I can do is focus on the aspects of sexual abuse that make me feel like I am in control. So I focus on the stranger, on the dangerous person hanging around the alleyway late at night, on the pedophile who’s in the playground.* > > *Focusing on that particular type of offender makes me feel like I’m in control because I feel like there’s something that I can do about it. In order to avoid sexual abuse, all I need to do is to avoid them and teach the people that I love to avoid them, too.* > > *While it’s completely understandable that all of us would like a sense of control when it comes to something as scary as sexual abuse, our willful blindness to the truth creates a smoke-screen. It’s a smoke-screen that helps sex offenders continue to offend undetected, and it’s a smoke-screen that chokes their victims and makes us deaf to their words.* ## Stigmatizing Strangers Breeds Xenophobia and Racism Let’s be clear here: “Stranger” doesn’t just mean someone you don’t know.  It means someone who is *Unfamiliar* to you.  Someone *different* than you.  It shouldn’t be surprising that Stranger Danger is cited as causing xenophobia.  Even the [Urban Dictionary definition of Stranger Danger](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Stranger-Danger%20Myth) includes it, as well as paranoia and racism. Yes, racism. I find one study about children with Williams Syndrome particularly interesting.  These children are born with a genetic mutation that makes them not fearful of strangers.  In tests which measure racism, these children were found not to hold racial biases. Hence the headline, [When Social Fears Disappear, So Does Racism.](http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2010/04/when-social-fear-disappears-so-does-racism) Strangers might not pose any real danger, but *living in a climate of xenophobic, racist fear most certainly is dangerous!* Stranger Danger leads to a world in which cops shoot unarmed black men and refugees are attacked in the streets.  Because, as [Feminist Killjoy points out,](https://feministkilljoys.com/2016/05/30/progressive-racism/) > “Strangers are endangered by being recognized as strangers. We have a word for this: racism.  There is nothing more dangerous than being perceived as dangerous.” Stranger Danger leads to a world where the US Republican presidential nominee can call Mexicans rapists, women dogs, and the countless other hateful things that have spewed from Trump’s mouth. Stranger Danger leads to a world where politicians can easily divide and manipulate groups to create war.  I live in what used to be Yugoslavia and my friends can attest to how this brought about a not-at-all civil war. Or, for an even more contemporary example, look how racism and [stigmatizing of Muslims is causing them to flock to groups like ISIS](http://thehumanist.com/commentary/homegrown-radicalization-how-america-has-becoming-a-breeding-ground-for-religious-extremists) and furthering a cycle of violence and hate.                                              **Taking the kids camping for the first time?** My “Your Family’s First Camping Trip” bundle has the complete guide, printable packing checklist, and three done-for-you itineraries — everything from booking the site to the drive home.                                                                        **[Get the bundle →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/1stcampingtrip)** ## Racializing Danger Buries the Root Problem Even Further We rarely refer to violence against women as a problem of our own culture.  Rather, it is a problem of other cultures.  As Feminist Killjoy writes, > *“Some forms of violence are represented as intrinsic to some forms of culture (as a cultural problem or a problem with culture).* > > *Racism increasingly operates through the idea of “culture” as being what minorities “have.”  Culture here becomes something fixed but only for some cultures (culture becomes their nature).”* You don’t have to look far for examples.  Consider the recent case of Brock Turner.  The white rapist got off with a light sentence of 6 *months* whereas the black rapist got who committed the same crime got 15 to 25 years in prison. You can’t deny that [race affects sentencing.](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-brock-turner-cory-batey-show-race-affects-sentencing-article-1.2664945) Muslims have it even worse. Take what happened after the [New Year’s Eve sexual assaults in Cologne.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Year%27s_Eve_sexual_assaults_in_Germany)  The assaults were purportedly committed by people of North African or Arab decent and thus blamed on the influx of Muslim refugees in the city. Right-wing racist groups used the attack to spread a message of hate and fear against these “strangers.” The point isn’t whether Muslims rape more often or not because of their “culture.”  What *is* a concern is the racialization of violence and rape.  As [Sara Farris ](http://salvage.zone/online-exclusive/racialising-sexism-is-no-good-for-women/) writes in regards to the Cologne assaults, > “Framing the problem in this way is very dangerous for the cause of gender equality and women’s safety, since it not only distort facts, but it also diverts attention away from the loopholes in the German legal system concerning women’s rights and the everyday reality of sexism and violence. > > When sexism is racialized and depicted as the exclusive domain of the non-western or non-Christian Other, all women end up losing.” So long as we keep speaking of violence as something perpetuated by “others,” we will never be able to tackle the very real problem of violence within our own communities – and the statistics overwhelmingly show that the violence is coming from the people closest to us. ## Stranger Danger Makes Kids Timid There is one thing that I strongly agree with in the modernized Stranger Danger teachings: that we should teach kids to be assertive.  Unfortunately, kids can’t learn to be assertive when they are also told to be afraid of strangers. In an [article at The Guardian](http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2004/may/23/uk.children), Eileen Hayes, the NSPCC parenting adviser, makes a scarily true observation about the side effects of Stranger Danger.  She notes that children are becoming too scared to leave their homes. > “It is leading to a poverty of opportunity for today’s youngsters, creating scared children who will grow into timid adults. **They are not getting the chance to develop the independence they need to become fully grown-up adults able successfully and boldly to navigate the real world.”** Timid kids are NOT going to be safe kids.  We need kids you can recognize dangers, report them, and react. ## What’s a Better Solution to Stranger Danger? Of course we want to keep our kids and ourselves safe, but being afraid of strangers just isn’t going to do that.  It is just going to create a climate of fear – a VERY dangerous climate of fear! So, what should we do instead? My radical view on how to keep children (and adults) safe is that we should do the EXACT OPPOSITE of Stranger Danger.  We should be in contact with many strangers and seeing firsthand how wonderful and kind most people are. Why do I have this view? Foremost, I want my child to have a rich life and fully believe that the benefits of meeting all sorts of people far outweighs the (overblown) risk of dangers presented by strangers. By exposing my daughter to many situations where “strangers” are present – such as by accepting Couchsurfing guests, bringing refugees into our home, or hitchhiking – I teach her that most people are good and kind. I stop the spread of hatred and the violence that it brings about (shouldn’t we all have this obligation as parents towards our children?). In short, teaching trust makes a better life for her and everyone in the future. **But exposing my daughter to strangers also helps her stay safer.  As [Resolve says](https://resolvenm.org/the-effects-of-fear-violence-mourning-trayvon/),** > “Those who accurately predict violence use *behavior* as their indicators, not hoodies or race. Concepts like forced teaming (pretending there is an alliance between you that doesn’t exist), using charm and niceness, giving too many details, typecasting, loan sharking, giving an unsolicited promise and ignoring the word “no” are all accurate ways of predicting when someone is acting manipulatively and possibly dangerous. > > Of course, in order to give credence to these ways of predicting violence and danger, we would have to admit that most violence happens by people we know and/or includes an ‘interview’ process, rather than being a random shooting or a man behind the bushes who says nothing before grabbing his victim.” Each time my daughter and I get into a stranger’s car when hitchhiking or accept candy from some nice person we meet, she is getting a chance to develop instincts about what is correct behavior and what isn’t. We haven’t experienced any “incorrect” behavior yet but, should it happen (and, if it does, the stats say it will probably from by someone we know like a teacher or neighbor), I am confident that she will recognize the dangers.  At least better than kids who have been taught to fear strangers. ## Most Importantly… Most importantly, we need to RESPECT children. Kids will never learn to say NO to a predator or report an assault by a family friend when they’ve been taught to “shut up and listen,” told to do things “because I said so,” and constantly had their opinions and desires discounted as not important. If you want an example of how much we disrespect kids, just take a look at this video made by Rosyln Ross.  When you put an adult in place of the child, you see how ridiculous the way we speak to children is. **In short, we need to RESPECT children if we want to keep them safe.  A child that has been respected from a young age will understand when he or she is not being respected.  That child will be more likely to speak out against violence and assault, and won’t be afraid to give the perpetrator a good kick in the groin if necessary. 😉** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety **Tags:** hitchhiking --- ### [10 Best Cheap Hiking Socks (That Won't Wreck Your Feet) 2026](https://momgoescamping.com/cheap-hiking-socks/) **Published:** January 1, 2025 **Author:** Diane **Content:** While most serious hikers will swear that [hiking socks are worth the cost](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-socks-worth-it/), it is understandable that you don’t want to shell out $25 for a pair of socks.  The good news is that there are plenty of quality brands of hiking socks which don’t cost a fortune. Read more about base layers for camping below: - [Why Merino Base Layers Cost 2x More](https://momgoescamping.com/why-merino-base-layer-cost-2x-more/) - [How to Prevent Blisters Hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/wear-two-pairs-socks-prevent-blisters-hiking/) - [Best Sun Gloves for Hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/best-sun-gloves/) - [Why Merino Wool Costs 2x More](https://momgoescamping.com/why-merino-base-layer-cost-2x-more/) - [Best Sun Gloves for Hiking and Cycling](https://momgoescamping.com/best-sun-gloves/)                                                **Taking the kids camping for the first time?** My “Your Family’s First Camping Trip” bundle has the complete guide, printable packing checklist, and three done-for-you itineraries: everything from booking the site to the drive home. **[                                                                       Get the bundle →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/1stcampingtrip)** All of the cheap hiking socks listed below cost less than $8 per pair (at time of writing).  They are also good (or great) quality and most are made of Merino wool.  None of these socks have cotton in them. **Quick Tips:** - Always air dry your socks. The dryer destroys their elasticity and wears them out quickly. - Buy hiking socks in winter. You’ll often find insane deals. - Also check out [REI’s Clearance section](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fc%2Fsocks%2Ff%2Fscd-deals) for cheap socks. - If you have trouble with blisters, try wearing two pairs of socks. Here’s [why](https://momgoescamping.com/wear-two-pairs-socks-prevent-blisters-hiking/). ## 1. People Socks (Merino) Compared to other brands of cheap merino socks, People Socks brand has a lot of options.  You can get their socks in different heights, weights and with features like compression and heel tabs.  Not all of the socks are cheap but some models do cost under $6 per pair. **Features:** - 71% wool, 21% Nylon, 7% Polyester,1% Spandex - Stretch material around heel and ankle to prevent slipping - Arch support - Between a light and mid-weight sock - Crew and quarter length heights - Good wicking and odor control **[Check them out here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=6400e3d617d3f4be23c06c2c52d80332&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=sporting&keywords=People%20Socks%20merino)** --- ## 2. Kirkland Signature Trail Socks These used to be sold in Costco but the store doesn’t seem to be stocking them anymore.  Now you can find them on Amazon.  They are almost always recommended by hikers as the best cheap hiking sock.   Price varies but their 6 pack is an incredible deal. **Features:** - 72% merino wool, 27% nylon, 1% spandex - Smooth toe - Arch support - Reinforced areas - Mid/Heavy weight **[Check them out here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=de7898d168a214c8ef3009891f5b3227&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=sporting&keywords=Kirkland%20Signature%20Trail%20Socks)** --- ## 3. Ortis Merino Wool Socks These hiking socks come in 4 packs.  They aren’t the cheapest per pair, but are pretty damn close.  The socks are well-made.  The weight of the socks isn’t listed but they fall into the mid-weight range so are good for mild weather hiking. Features include: - Made from 49% wool - Good breathability thanks to mesh fiber design - Reinforced heel - Cushioned sole - Wicking and odor control - Low cut or crew height **[Check them out here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=12a10219157e9b52289075d3cf0243f2&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=sporting&keywords=Ortis%20Merino%20Wool%20Socks)** --- ## 4. EnerWear Merino Outdoor Socks This is one of the few brands of budget hiking socks which actually offers many options.  Their socks come in various heights and thicknesses.  They are especially good for cold weather and there is an [option with 86% wool](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07R57S31C/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07R57S31C&linkId=aabf21585620c69cccd3f32abee54622) that is great for winter hiking.  For hot weather hiking, they have a [Coolmax wicking sock which is 71% polyester and 25% wool](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07TBKZS7Y/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07TBKZS7Y&linkId=8458a95735eb3b70542908afd507a8cd). Just make sure you pay attention to the features when buying so you get the right sock for your needs. **Features:** - High Merino amount (86% in some models) - Multiple height and thickness options - Heel tabs on low cut socks - Cushioned sole - Reinforced areas **[Check them out here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=410e8a9745ef9574ac723649fd35c784&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=sporting&keywords=EnerWear%20Merino%20Outdoor%20Socks)** --- ## 5. Omni-Wool Merino Hiking Sock This is a smaller USA-based brand.  Their wool base layers are very popular with hikers and their socks are also gaining popularity too.  It’s just too bad they don’t have more options. - 56% Merino Wool, 25% Nylon, 18% Acrylic, 1% Spandex - Mid weight - Cushioned footbed - Arch support - Ventilation panel [**Check it out here**](https://amzn.to/4e4kNwP) --- ## 6. Saucony Athletic and Performance Socks This brand sells their socks in multipacks.  The price ends up being insanely cheap per pair.  Despite the low price, they have some really nice features for hiking.  Most of their socks are ¼ length though they do have some crew height socks. **Features:** - Vented - Heel tab - Selective cushioning - Arch support with targeted compression - No cottom (most are made from 98% polyester and 2% spandex) - Comfort toe seam **[Check them out here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=95bd633b8ddcebfa2b7d90557609caea&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=sporting&keywords=Saucony%20Athletic%20and%20Performance%20Socks)** --- ## 7. Danish Endurance Merino Trekking Socks If you buy just one pair of these socks, they are fairly expensive.  However, you can often find good deals on 3-packs of their socks.  There are basically two options: the “Classic” is a thicker sock with more cushioning and better suited for colder weather.  Their “Hiking Light” sock has more Merino content but is thinner and doesn’t have as much cushioning.   A nice thing is that you can buy the socks as a [variety pack](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B092JM4FZJ/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B092JM4FZJ&linkId=7cb5a1c2691c7779b14564dcf3b4d4b6) at a pretty good deal. **Features (Classic):** - 30% merino wool, 36% nylon, 33% acrylic, 1% elastane (classic), 40% wool (hiking light) - Cooling mesh ventilation - Cushioning **[Check them out here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=3ec3c0e68059d986f7899d83fe1e6468&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=sporting&keywords=Danish%20Endurance%20Merino%20Trekking%20Socks)** --- ## 8. Kavanyiso Wool Trekking Socks It really doesn’t get much cheaper than these wool socks.  The reason they are so cheap has to do with the fact they are a generic brand and basically rip off the design of more expensive socks.  They - 70% merino wool, 25% nylon and 5% spandex - Very soft pile weave - Heavy weight - Reinforced heel and toe areas [**Check them out here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B082D615RM/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B082D615RM&linkId=77c55b234c708a45ac64d9053804ff95) --- ## 9. Fun Toes Merino Socks This brand mostly makes heavy-weight Merino socks for cold weather.  They do have some mid-weight options though which are good for hiking, including crew cut socks and ankle height socks, but these are still pretty thick.  The socks manage to be so cheap because their merino content is pretty low and they don’t have any built-in ventilation.  So, only choose these if you tend to prefer synthetic socks over wool. **Features (Mid Weight):** - 50% Merino, 40% nylon, 9% polyester, 1% spandex - Reinforced toe area - Arch support - Best for cold weather hiking **[Check them out here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=40682bfad1c32ee5ccf5cdd8f483fcfc&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=sporting&keywords=Fun%20Toes%20Merino%20Socks)** --- ## 10. Darn Tough Socks [![are darn tough socks worth it?](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/darn-tough-socks.jpg "darn tough socks - Mom Goes Camping")](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=c428e507-7aa6-4377-be1a-5f1693f6693b&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fdarntough.com%2F) At first glance, Darn Tough socks seem really expensive. They generally range from $17 to $22 per pair.  However, when you factor in the quality of the socks, they actually end up being pretty cheap.  Darn Tough socks outlast cheap socks by a huge timeframe (especially if you are a serious hiker). When you also consider the lifetime warranty on Darn Tough socks (which is legit!), the socks end up being even cheaper.  If you ever do wear through the Darn Tough socks, they will give you a new pair, which means the price ends up being much lower. **Features:** - Seamless design - Made from fine-gauge, low micron Merino wool - Cushioning in sole area - Wicking technology - Performance fit for no bunching - Tons of options for height and weight - Lifetime warranty [**Get them here**](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fb%2Fdarn-tough%2Fc%2Fwomens-socks) As the phrase goes, “I’m not rich enough to buy cheap gear.”  If you want to save money on hiking gear, you can do it in ways which don’t really matter as much (like using your regular backpack or hiking in cheap clothes…).  But, when it comes to your feet, it’s usually worth it to invest a bit more money upfront than pay for it on the trail. ## Cheap Hiking Socks FAQ: #### Are cheap hiking socks worth it? For casual day hiking, yes. Budget Merino socks from brands like People Socks or Kirkland perform very close to premium brands at a fraction of the cost. Where cheap socks fall short is longevity they typically last one to two seasons of regular hiking vs three to five for Darn Tough or Smartwool. If you hike frequently, the math often favors spending more upfront. #### What’s the most important feature in a hiking sock? No cotton. Cotton absorbs moisture, holds it against your skin, loses its insulating ability when wet, and causes blisters and hotspots faster than anything else in your pack. Everything else — cushioning, height, weight, wool content comes after that. A cheap synthetic or Merino sock will always outperform an expensive cotton sock on the trail. #### How many pairs of hiking socks should I pack? One per day of hiking, plus one spare. If you’re backpacking, you can stretch that to one pair per two days if you’re airing them out overnight and rotating. Never hike in wet socks two days in a row — the blister risk jumps significantly. #### What’s the difference between hiking sock weights? Lightweight socks are thinner, better for warm weather and high-output hiking where your feet run hot. Midweight adds cushioning and warmth, the best all-around for most conditions. Heavyweight is for cold weather, heavy boots, and long distance where foot fatigue matters. Most cheap hiking socks fall into the midweight range. #### Can I use regular wool socks for hiking? Better than cotton, but not ideal. Regular wool socks don’t have reinforced heel and toe zones, arch support, or strategic cushioning. They also tend to bunch and slip in a boot, which causes hotspots. Dedicated hiking socks in the $5-8 range are worth the marginal cost over regular wool socks for any serious trail use. **Know of any good, cheap hiking socks? Let us know your favorites in the comments section below.** --- Image credit:”[Pink Socks Brown Boots](https://www.flickr.com/photos/danwalker90/27506069530/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [dan\_walk](https://www.flickr.com/people/danwalker90/) Resources:<https://www.reddit.com/r/backpacking/comments/ndc36/great_inexpensive_merino_wool_sock/>, <https://www.reddit.com/r/frugalmalefashion/comments/2cn4sc/where_can_i_find_frugal_wool_socks/>, <https://www.reddit.com/r/hiking/comments/l37k54/best_hiking_socks/>, ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** feet, socks --- ### [10+ Reasons You Hate Camping (And How to Fix Them)](https://momgoescamping.com/hate-camping/) **Published:** June 11, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** As much as I love camping, I completely understand why some people hate camping.  Some people simply don’t take pleasure in unplugging and connecting with nature. Even if you do like nature, it takes a lot of knowledge to camp successfully.  But, if you’ve tried camping and hate it, don’t give up right away.  A lot of the reasons people hate camping can actually be fixed pretty easily. ## 1. Packing Tons of Stuff, Even for a Weekend Trip [![camping gear packing pain in the butt](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/camping-gear-packing-pain-in-the-butt.jpg "camping gear packing pain in the butt - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/camping-gear-packing-pain-in-the-butt.jpg) Camping means you’ve got to bring *all* of your necessities with you: shelter, sleeping setup, hygiene, first aid food…  It takes a lot of time to pack and admittedly is annoying to do for a short trip. **Solution:** I keep all my camping gear together so packing is easier.  My first aid kit even remains pre-packed and ready to go.  I use [this checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-checklist-family/) to make sure I don’t forget anything. ## 2. Being Eaten Alive By Mosquitoes [![camping mosquito bites](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/29056330235_19aeb3585e_c.jpg "camping mosquitoes - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/29056330235_19aeb3585e_c.jpg) There’s nothing like being eaten alive to make you enjoy the great outdoors! **Solution:** Go camping at higher elevations where there aren’t as many mosquitoes. Otherwise, load up on the bug spray and insect-proof clothing. ## 3. Sleeping On the Ground Who wouldn’t hate camping when you sleep on the cold ground with rocks poking into your back.  And *of course* the ground isn’t flat either so end up with all the blood draining out of your head! **Solution:** Take some time to find a flat area and clear the ground of objects before you pitch the tent. A [good self-inflating sleeping pad](https://momgoescamping.com/thermarest-neoair-xlite-alternatives/) will keep you warm and comfortable. And, if you really can’t stand the ground, then get yourself a nice camping cot. Just don’t make the mistake of sharing a sleeping pad or bag.  Nobody sleeps well when [co-sleeping in a sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/co-sleeping-baby-camping/)! ## 4. Feeling Like an Idiot When You Can’t Get the Tent up [![tent fail](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/247625227_a7eb10ab4c_c.jpg "tent fail - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/247625227_a7eb10ab4c_c.jpg) Of course the instructions don’t make sense. And then the campground Wifi doesn’t work so you can’t even ask the internet for instructions! **Solution:** Always test all gear at home before you go camping.  This includes your tent, stove, lanterns and other gear.  And make sure you are getting a tent which is quick and easy to setup.                                             **Taking the kids camping for the first time?** My “Your Family’s First Camping Trip” bundle has the complete guide, printable packing checklist, and three done-for-you itineraries — everything from booking the site to the drive home. **[                                                                      Get the bundle →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/1stcampingtrip)** ## 5. Rain [![hate camping in rain](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/40382343494_ac64e44422_c.jpg "hate camping in rain - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/40382343494_ac64e44422_c.jpg) **Solution:** Rain doesn’t have to ruin your trip.  Get a rain jacket and [rain pants](https://momgoescamping.com/best-waterproof-womens-hiking-pants/) so you stay dry and set up a tarp over your camp kitchen station so you have somewhere to escape.  Read more about [how to enjoy camping in the rain.](https://momgoescamping.com/what-to-do-when-it-rains-when-camping/) ## 6. Annoying Neighbors Loud music? Drunk idiots?  Random kids coming over to ask you what you are doing every 10 minutes??? Not everyone has the same idea of camping, which means campground neighbors can do some [really annoying things](https://momgoescamping.com/bad-camping-etiquette/) to ruin your trip. **Solution:** Go [wild camping on public land](https://momgoescamping.com/find-free-camping/) instead. ## 7. Crowds Ruining the Most Beautiful Places ![crowds at national park](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/crowds-at-national-park.jpg "crowds at national park - Mom Goes Camping") Camping is now popular and suddenly every single Instagram influencer needs a shot of themselves at a National Park. It means you’ve got to trek to find parking, fight through crowds of people taking selfies and that you can forget about getting some peace and quiet! **Solution:** If you can’t visit during the off-season, then consider going to less-popular local attractions.  Nature doesn’t have to be “spectacular” for you to enjoy connecting with it. ## 8. Pooping in the Woods If you are a good camper, you will dig a “cathole” 8 inches deep each time you have to poop and there’s no outhouse available.  It’s surprisingly hard to dig through hard dirt full of rocks and tree roots, which means you will nearly poop your pants if you don’t time it well. **Solution:** Once at camp, I pre-dig my cathole so it is ready when I need to poo.  It even gives me time to pick the perfect spot with a view. 😀 ## 9. Sand in Tent It’s pretty much impossible to keep sand out of the tent when camping on the beach.  Then it sticks to your sweaty body, giving you one more reason to hate camping. **Solution:** Consider hammock camping instead.  Even if sand does get in the hammock, you can just shake it out. ## 10. Washing Dishes It’s definitely not fun to lug around stacks of dirty dishes to the communal washing station, especially when your Dutch oven is encrusted with burnt food because [campfire cooking](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-cook-over-a-campfire/) was harder than you realized. **Solution:** Keep meals simple and eat out of the pot.  Then you won’t have to deal with so many dishes.  Here are some [easy camping meal ideas](https://momgoescamping.com/easy-camping-meals/). And do yourself a favor and bring a few [camping sinks](https://momgoescamping.com/portable-camp-sinks/). ## 11. Insects and Spiders in the Tent Just when you thought you couldn’t hate camping any more, you wake up with a massive spider crawling over your face. **Solution:** Make a rule that the tent door ALWAYS stays closed. Whoever leaves the door open is responsible for getting spiders out of the tent at night. ## 12. Having to Pee in the Middle of the Night You’ve finally gotten comfortable in your sleeping bag and now have to trek out into the freezing cold night to pee. **Solution:** Embrace the pee bottle!  Women can even use a pee funnel so they can use a pee bottle too. ## 13. Checking for Ticks a Zillion Times Per Day Checking for ticks multiple times per day is annoying as hell but necessary – the sooner you get them off, the less likely they are to transmit disease. **Solution:** After getting bit by dozens of ticks (and had a [tick head stuck in my skin](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-remove-a-tick-head-stuck-in-your-skin/) and also got [Lyme disease](https://momgoescamping.com/lyme-disease-rash-photos/)), I now carry a [tick tool](https://momgoescamping.com/tick-removal-tools-humans/) with me everywhere and [spray my clothes with permethrin](https://momgoescamping.com/permethrin/). ## 14. Waking Up Freezing Cold The early mornings can be *very* cold when camping.  It’s hard to get out of your sleeping bag when there is literal frost on the ground! **Solution:** Brave the cold! Get dressed, start moving and you’ll warm up quickly. ## Hate Camping FAQ: #### Why do so many people hate camping? Usually one bad experience that put them off sleeping cold, getting rained on without the right gear, or a campsite that felt more like a parking lot than nature. Most camping problems are gear and preparation problems, not camping problems. The people who hate camping are almost always the ones who went underprepared, not the ones who genuinely don’t like being outside. #### Is camping worth it if you hate bugs and dirt? If bugs and dirt are your only objection, yes  insect repellent, permethrin-treated clothing, and a doormat outside the tent solve most of it. If you hate being uncomfortable in general and have no interest in being outside, camping probably isn’t for you and that’s fine. #### Is glamping a good option if you hate camping? For some people, yes. If the things you hate about camping are the physical discomfort (sleeping on the ground, no bathroom nearby, no reliable shelter), glamping removes most of those friction points. Whether it’s actually “camping” is a different argument but if it gets people outside who otherwise wouldn’t go, it works. #### What’s the most common reason first-timers hate camping? Sleeping badly. A bad night’s sleep poisons everything that follows the hike isn’t fun, the food isn’t good, the company is irritating. The sleeping pad is almost always the culprit. Most beginners underinvest in the pad and overinvest in the sleeping bag. Fix the pad first. #### Can kids who hate camping be convinced to like it? Usually yes, if you give them ownership of something  their own headlamp, their own tent, letting them lead on the trail, teaching them to start the fire. Kids who hate camping typically hate feeling bored and powerless at a campsite. Give them a job and they almost always come around by day two. **What do you hate about camping? Has it completely stopped you? Let us know in the comments section below.** --- ###### Image credits: “[IMG\_2734](https://www.flickr.com/photos/euphro/9564931036/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [euphro](https://www.flickr.com/people/euphro/), “[The Sad State of our Tent](https://www.flickr.com/photos/pocheco/247625227/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [Sarah&Boston](https://www.flickr.com/people/pocheco/), “[ticks, mosquitos, chiggers = camp legs](https://www.flickr.com/photos/wwworks/29056330235/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [woodleywonderworks](https://www.flickr.com/people/wwworks/), “[Devil’s Hole Camping Area](https://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinmatthews/40382343494/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Wilderness Kev](https://www.flickr.com/people/kevinmatthews/), “[Abmarschbereitschaft](https://www.flickr.com/photos/gerrit_berlin/31712067168/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Gerrit Berlin](https://www.flickr.com/people/gerrit_berlin/) “[Waiting for Sunset](https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernd_thaller/38623790635/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Bernd Thaller](https://www.flickr.com/people/bernd_thaller/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety --- ### [Attacked by Cows while Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/attacked-cows-camping/) **Published:** September 4, 2019 **Author:** Diane **Content:** As an experienced backpacker and camper, I am prepared for wild animals like [bears](https://momgoescamping.com/if-you-see-bear/) and [snakes](https://momgoescamping.com/what-to-do-if-you-see-a-snake/). However, *cows* were not an animal that I really thought much about… Until a recent trip that almost went bad. ## Cows Attacking My Gear To be clear, I wasn’t attacked by cows.  Rather, the cows went after my gear.  Here’s what happened. My daughter and I went wild camping at beautiful Bukumir Lake in Montenegro (*Bukumisko Jezero*). To get there, we took a 12 hour overnight bus, a 1 1/2 hour bumpy local bus ride, and hitchhiked a ride 12km up a mountain road.  Needless to say, we were tired when we arrived around noon. I quickly set up the tent but didn’t bother with the rest of the gear.  I left my backpack next to the tent and we headed towards the lake to go for a swim. Right as we got our bathing suits on, a herd of about 15 cows arrived. The lead cow (the one with a bell on her) headed straight for the tent.  She started sniffing at the tent.  Then she started to dig her nose into my pack. She got at our food bag – full of things like oats that cows love – and started to chew on it! **I stood frozen, not sure what to do.** **All sorts of things were going through my mind like…** *That woman who was killed by cows in Switzerland last year…* *Would bear spray work on a cow?* *How stupid it would be for us to have to turn back on Day 1 of our trip because cows ate all our food…* As I stood there, more cows joined in.  They started to nuzzle and lick the tent and my backpack… ## Yes, Cows Can Be Dangerous You might wonder why I didn’t just grab a stick and prod the cows away from my gear.  After all, cows are domesticated animals, right? True cows seem docile – but there are also countless incidents of cows attacking and injuring people, often fatally. Cows are huge creatures.  They can stand 6 feet tall and weigh easily 1,300 lbs or more.  Not to mention their HORNS and sharp HOOVES. It would only take a nudge from a pissed-off cow to knock you over (and I’m not exactly a large person).  Once on the ground, the cow can stomp you, breaking bones and gutting pieces of flesh off you. I wasn’t about to try shooing cows away from my gear, especially when alone with my 8 year old daughter! ### The Stats on Cow Attacks: - In the USA, cows kill an average of 20 people each year. By comparison, bears only kill an average of one person yearly. - In the UK, an average of 4 to 5 people are killed by cows each year. One quarter of these were hikers. - In Australia, cow fatalities average 33 per year. The number of injuries from cows is in the *thousands*. (Australia’s notoriously venomous snakes and reptiles kill 23 people yearly). I couldn’t find any statistics for Switzerland, but there are lots of injuries and fatalities there too. It’s [gotten so common](https://www.thelocal.ch/20160429/swiss-region-to-protect-tourists-from-killer-cows) that some areas are requiring cows with calves to be penned in away from tourist walking paths.  You’ll also find signs warning hikers to stay clear of mother cows and their calves. ![cow danger sign in Switzerland](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/cow-sign-640x361.jpg "cow sign - Mom Goes Camping") ## Dogs: A Common Cause of Cow Attacks In the UK, 94% of hikers killed had dogs with them.  Likewise, a lot of the cow attacks on hikers in other countries involve dogs. Even if your dog is the nicest, most well-behaved creature in the world, a dog still looks like a predator to a cow.  It makes the cows feel threatened when they see a dog.  It definitely doesn’t help if your dog starts barking at the cows. Owners often pick up their dogs to protect them against charging cows.  This is the worst thing you can do.  The cows then stampede the owner who is holding the dog. The official advice for cow attacks and dogs is this: **Let your dog off its leash (even if it’s legally required to walk the dog on a leash).  The cows are more likely to go after the dog than you.  Both you and your dog will be safer if you let the dog run away from the cows.** ![dogs and cow attacks](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/dogs-and-cows.jpg "dogs and cows - Mom Goes Camping") ## Other Causes of Cow Attacks Another common reason cows attack is because they are trying to protect their calves. Thus, cow attacks are more likely to occur in springtime when new calves are born. Cows can also get stressed by bad weather or if they are startled. The cows that were slobbering all over my tent and backpack?  I wasn’t about to piss them off by trying to scare them away!  I’d rather play it safe than sorry. Surprisingly, bull attacks are actually pretty rare.  Part of this might have to do with the fact that bulls aren’t in areas used for hiking. In the UK, bulls are banned from being in Public Rights of Way land. If you do encounter a bull while hiking though, be cautious.  Bulls have less interaction with humans than dairy cows, so are more likely to act aggressive towards humans. ## How to Protect Yourself from Cow Attacks while Hiking - If you encounter cows while hiking, don’t go through them. Wait for them to leave or go around them. - When going around cows, do not go close to dangerous cliffs. If the cows charge, you might be pushed off the cliff. - Avoid startling cows. When approaching cows, talk calmly so they hear you coming. - Do not get between cows and calves. - Do not wear obnoxiously-bright colors. - Do not stare cows in the eyes. - Don’t try to pet cows, especially babies. - Note where fences are in case you need to escape a charging cow. - If cows approach you, it is probably because they are curious. Just remain calm and continue walking. - Keep your dog on a leash, unless the cows are attacking. **If cows start attacking/charging you:** - Back away slowly. Walk backwards so you don’t lose sight of the cow. Do not run away from the cow. - Use a long stick or trekking poles to defend yourself. - Let your dog off its leash if cows start charging or you feel threatened. ## The End of My Cow Attack Story So, what happened to me in the end?  I watched from a distance as the cows chewed on my food bag. Amazingly, they didn’t even break through the bag.  I guess they didn’t like the taste of plastic. After about 10 minutes, they moved away from my stuff.  Apparently cows can be pretty curious, which was probably the case with this herd. When the cows left, I hustled over and scooped up all of my gear (which was thoroughly coating with slobber – even a [thunderstorm that night](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-thunderstorm/) didn’t get all the slobber off the tent!!!). I then promptly went to hang a food bag. I knew that the cows would be back the next day though.  So, the next morning, my daughter and I packed up and choose a new camping spot… but not before a herd of sheep came through camp though while I was making breakfast! Several of the sheep sniffed at my stove but moved away as they felt the heat. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/sheep-at-bukumirsko-jezero-640x358.jpg "sheep at bukumirsko jezero - Mom Goes Camping")I didnt get a picture of the cows attacking my gear but here are the sheep retreating The sheep didn’t scare me like the cows did.  However, when the three huge DOGS looking after the sheep came over to me, I did freak out a bit.  I threw them a few pieces of homemade jerky to make friends with them. Luckily it was vegan jerky, which they didn’t like too much.  Otherwise they might have stuck around all day, haha! ### Lessons learned from my cow attack experience: - **Put up your food bag right away.** Even if there aren’t bears or “dangerous” animals in the area. Even if it is daylight! (here’s [how to hang a food bag](https://momgoescamping.com/hang-food-bag/)) - **Don’t set up camp where there’s tons of fresh cow poop.** - **BE PREPARED FOR ANYTHING! 😀** ## Cow Attack FAQ: #### Are cows actually dangerous? More than most people realize. In the US, cows kill around 20 people per year significantly more than bears. In Australia, cow fatalities consistently exceed snake deaths. The combination of size (up to 1,300 lbs), hooves, and horns means even a curious nudge from a startled cow can knock an adult down, and a cow on top of you is a genuine emergency. #### What should you do if cows start charging? Back away slowly, facing the cows so you don’t lose sight of them don’t turn and run, as that triggers the chase instinct. Use trekking poles or a stick to make yourself look larger. If you have a dog, release the leash immediately — cows will target the dog rather than you, and both of you have a better chance separately. Get to a fence or other barrier as quickly as possible. #### Why do cows attack hikers with dogs? Dogs trigger the predator instinct in cows, particularly around calves. A dog doesn’t have to be aggressive simply being present is threatening to a cow protecting her young. Picking up your dog is the worst response: it keeps the threat (the dog) at your level and makes you a combined target. Release the leash and let the dog flee. #### When are cows most dangerous? Spring, when calves are newborn and mothers are most protective. Cows are also more aggressive in bad weather, when startled, or when they feel cornered. Bulls are surprisingly less commonly involved in hiker attacks than dairy cows bulls are rarely on public walking routes, whereas dairy cows graze alongside footpaths regularly in countries like the UK and Switzerland. #### How do you camp safely around cows? Don’t set up near fresh cow pats that’s their territory and they will return. Hang or seal all food immediately regardless of how remote you are (oats, grains, and anything sweet are highly attractive to cows). When you first arrive at a site, look for established cow paths through the area and pitch away from them. If cows come through, stay calm, move slowly, and give them space until they leave on their own.                                                      **Want gourmet meals on the trail?** My dehydrator recipes ebook has 50+ calorie-dense backpacking recipes — just add hot water. **[                                                                            Get it here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck)** [![dehydrator backpacking recipes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/book-with-tablet.png "book with tablet - Mom Goes Camping")](https://gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck/50off) And below is what some of my trail food looks like.  Get the book [here](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmetasheck50off). ![camping meals](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/gallery-min-640x647.jpg "gallery-min - Mom Goes Camping") --- Resources: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment\_data/file/701188/countryside-code.pdf?\_ga=2.64495791.1200214091.1566988606-231435260.1566988606 <https://theconversation.com/when-cows-attack-how-dangerous-are-cattle-and-how-can-you-stay-safe-around-them-79524> <http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/ais17ew.pdf> <https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/countryside/10064225/Cow-attacks-It-looked-like-they-wanted-to-kill-him.html> <https://phys.org/news/2017-06-dangerous-cattle-safe.html> <http://www.stuff.co.nz/editors-picks/9662281/Cattle-top-NZs-most-dangerous-farm-animal-list> <https://www.australiangeographic.com.au/topics/wildlife/2016/03/here-are-the-animals-really-most-likely-to-kill-you-in-australia/> <https://www.insidehook.com/article/action/odds-of-a-shark-attack> ###### Image credits: “[Toggenburg SG – Mutterkühe](https://www.flickr.com/photos/pe_ma/4762665257/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [pe\_ma](https://www.flickr.com/people/pe_ma/) “[cow attack](https://www.flickr.com/photos/38824597@N07/3614446481/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Ski Lodge Engelberg](https://www.flickr.com/people/38824597@N07/) “[Attack Cow](https://www.flickr.com/photos/cc_chapman/517795652/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [CC Chapman](https://www.flickr.com/people/cc_chapman/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety **Tags:** animal attacks, cows, hiking --- ### [Camping with an ADHD child](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-with-an-adhd-child/) **Published:** January 20, 2025 **Author:** Diane **Content:** ### **Why Camping Is Great for Families and Kids with ADHD** As a mother of a child with ADHD, I know firsthand how overwhelming everyday life can feel. Balancing school, work, and all the little moments in between often leaves little time to truly connect with my son. But something incredible happens when we go camping. It’s like stepping into a completely different world—one that brings us closer and helps us both thrive. I want to share how camping has enhanced our lives and offer practical tips for other moms raising kids with ADHD. ### **The Benefits of Camping for Kids with ADHD** Children with ADHD often face challenges in structured environments like school, where they’re expected to sit still and stay focused. Camping, on the other hand, creates a perfect blend of freedom and structure, making it an ideal environment for our kids. Here are some of the benefits I’ve seen in my own child: 1. **Nature’s Calming Effect** The first time we went camping, I noticed something almost magical. My son, who is usually bouncing from one thing to another, seemed calmer as soon as we stepped into the woods. Nature has a way of soothing the senses and providing a much-needed break from the overstimulation of daily life. I’ve learned that just a simple walk in the forest can make a big difference. 2. **Opportunities for Independence** One of the biggest challenges for kids with ADHD is building confidence. Camping is full of hands-on tasks that teach independence. My son loves being in charge of setting up the tent or gathering firewood. Watching him tackle these responsibilities with pride has been one of the most rewarding parts of our camping trips. 3. **Burning Off Energy** My son has endless energy, and camping gives him the perfect outlet. Whether it’s hiking a trail, swimming in a lake, or just running around the campsite, he’s constantly moving. This physical activity not only helps him focus later but also ensures he gets a solid night’s sleep—a rare win in our household! 4. **Learning Through Play** Camping provides so many opportunities for learning in a way that feels fun and natural. We’ve learned to identify different plants, made simple meals over a campfire, and even practiced basic survival skills like tying knots. These activities engage his curious mind without the pressure of formal lessons. 5. **No Screens, No Problem – (Screen Time Green Time)** Admittedly, I was nervous about how my son would handle being away from his tablet. But camping helped us discover the joy of unplugging. Without screens, he’s more present and engaged, whether it’s spotting wildlife or roasting marshmallows. It’s a reminder that the best moments often come from the simplest experiences.                                             **Taking your kids camping for the first time?** My “Your Family’s First Camping Trip” bundle has the complete guide, printable packing checklist, and three done-for-you itineraries — everything from booking the site to the drive home. **[                                                                   Get the bundle →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/1stcampingtrip)** [![successful camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/ChatGPT-Image-Apr-2-2025-11_57_07-AM.png "successful camping - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/ChatGPT-Image-Apr-2-2025-11_57_07-AM.png) ### **Strengthening Family Bonds** Camping hasn’t just benefited my son; it’s brought us closer as a family. Here’s how: 1. **Quality Time Without Distractions** At home, it feels like there’s always something pulling me away—work emails, household chores, or social media. But when we’re camping, it’s just us. I cherish the quiet moments, like sitting around the campfire, sharing stories, and laughing together. 2. **Teamwork in Action** Camping has taught us the importance of working together. Whether it’s setting up our campsite or cooking meals, everyone has a role to play. My son takes pride in contributing, and I love seeing how these experiences build his sense of responsibility. 3. **Judgment-Free Zone** Let’s be honest: parenting a child with ADHD can feel isolating. I’ve often worried about how others perceive my son’s behaviour. But out in nature, there’s no one to judge. It’s freeing for both of us and allows me to focus on what really matters—supporting and celebrating who he is. ### **Tips for a Successful Camping Trip** If you’re thinking about camping with your ADHD kiddo, here are some tips I’ve learned along the way: - **Start Small**: Our first trip was just a one-night stay at a local campsite. Keeping it simple helped us ease into the experience without feeling overwhelmed. - **Use [packing lists](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-checklists/)** so you don’t forget something (comfort item, medication etc). - **Let Them Help Plan**: My son loves being involved in planning. He gets excited about [picking activities](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-toys/) or choosing which snacks to bring. - **Stick to a Routine**: While camping is all about adventure, maintaining consistent mealtimes and bedtimes helps my son feel secure. - **Bring Comfort Items**: Familiar items like his favourite blanket or stuffed animal make sleeping in a tent less intimidating. - **Be Flexible**: Things won’t always go as planned, and that’s okay. Embrace the unpredictability and focus on making memories. ### **Why** Camping Matters Camping has been a game-changer for our family. It’s not just about the fresh air or the beautiful scenery; it’s about connection. It’s about creating a space where my son can thrive and where we can grow together as a family. If you’ve been hesitant to try camping, I encourage you to give it a shot. You might just find, like I did, that the great outdoors holds the key to some of your greatest parenting moments. ## Camping with ADHD Kids FAQ: #### Is camping good for kids with ADHD? Research consistently supports the idea that time in nature reduces ADHD symptoms  a concept sometimes called “green time.” Unstructured outdoor environments reduce the demand for sustained attention, allow physical energy to be discharged naturally, and remove many of the triggers (screens, noise, social pressure) that make school environments hard for ADHD kids. Most parents who try it report better sleep, calmer behavior, and stronger connection during and after camping trips. #### How do I keep an ADHD child safe at a campsite? Walk the campsite boundaries with them as soon as you arrive and make it concrete  “this tree on the left, the road on the right, the creek behind us.” Give them a specific job or task to anchor them to camp. For younger kids, a whistle on a lanyard gives them a way to signal if they wander and helps them feel responsible for their own safety. #### What’s the best first camping trip for a family with an ADHD child? One night at a developed campground with bathrooms, running water, and a drive-up site. Close enough to home that bailing isn’t a disaster. The goal isn’t an epic adventure it’s proving to your kid (and yourself) that this works. One successful night is worth more than an ambitious week that ends early. #### How do you handle medication routines while camping? Pack medications in a clearly labeled, waterproof container with a zipper-lock bag as backup. Build medication times into the camping routine the same way you would at home tied to meals if possible, which creates a natural anchor. If refrigeration is needed, a small insulated pouch with a cold pack inside a hard-sided cooler works well. #### What activities work best for kids with ADHD while camping? High-movement activities with a clear goal: orienteering, fishing, rock collecting with a field guide, building a fire lay, learning knots, nature scavenger hunts. Short bursts with visible outcomes work better than long sustained activities. Avoid passive sitting activities for the first day until the physical energy has been discharged through hiking or exploring. Read more about camping with your kids below: - [Camping Activities to Entertain Kids](https://momgoescamping.com/activities-entertain-kids-camping/) - [Your Family’s First Camping Trip Guide](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-plan-your-first-camping-trip-with-kids-a-moms-guide/) - [Best Rain Suits for Toddlers](https://momgoescamping.com/best-rain-suits-toddlers/) - [Camping First Aid Checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-first-aid-checklist/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids --- ### [Solved: Rain Boots Getting Stinky and Moldy](https://momgoescamping.com/rain-boots-stink/) **Published:** February 14, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** If waterproof rain boots or welly boots don’t dry out properly, they can start to get really stinky or even grow mold inside.  Here are some solutions to get the smell out! ## Don’t Buy Insulated Rain Boots Insulated rain boots take forever to dry once wet.  I only recommend them for muddy weather and *not* rainy weather.  If you want to wear insulated rain boots in heavy rains or for puddle jumping, you’ve got to have good rain pants to keep the water out.    Otherwise, just get non-insulated boots and wear thick socks with them. Also read: [Best Rain Boots for Kids](https://momgoescamping.com/best-rain-boots-kids/) ## Rain Pants Over the Boots Want to play in the rain?  You also need *rain pants.* The rain pants go over the boots.  Otherwise rain will drip down the jacket into the boots.  Or water will splash into the boots with each puddle splash.  Since rain boots are waterproof, they can even fill with water and need to be emptied! Note that rain pants go OVER the boots.  I go crazy each time I see pictures of kids in rain pants tucked into their boots. **Also read: [Best Rain Suits for Toddlers](https://momgoescamping.com/best-rain-suits-toddlers/), [Best Rain Pants for Kids](https://momgoescamping.com/best-kids-rain-pants/) and [Best Waterproof Pants for Women](https://momgoescamping.com/best-waterproof-womens-hiking-pants/)** ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/rain-boots-without-pants.jpg "rain boots without pants - Mom Goes Camping")These kids arent wearing rain pants so will have tons of water inside their rain boots                                                         **Heading out soon?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup. **[                                                          Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** ## Wear Two Pairs of Socks Experienced hikers know about the [two-sock trick](https://momgoescamping.com/wear-two-pairs-socks-prevent-blisters-hiking/).  You wear a thin synthetic or silk sock as a base layer.  It wicks sweat and water away from the skin.  The second sock is made from a thicker insulating material like wool.  Your feet will stay warm and dry, which is important for not getting blisters.  Since sweat is wicked away, your rain boots won’t smell as bad. ### \*Get Your Kids to Wear Socks A lot of kids *hate* to wear socks.  I know – I was one of them.  My mom used to have to sit on me to get socks on! It is usually a sensory thing. But wearing rain boots barefoot is a really bad idea. Sweat will pool inside the boot, causing your kids’ feet to get wet. This not only makes the boots stinky but [causes chafing](https://momgoescamping.com/rain-boots-skin-chafing/). The feet to slide around inside and get blisters. **If your kid really hates socks, you can:** - **Find seamless socks:** It was the seam on the sock which made me hate them. - **Avoid patterned socks:** The weave around the pattern area can be very uncomfortable **If that doesn’t work, try to make a cloth bootie to go inside the boot.** - **Choose a fabric.** Silk scarves are good for this. - **Fold the scarf so it fits in the boot better.** - **Fold about 1 inch of the scarf over the *outside* of the boot.** Drape the rest of the scarf into the boot but don’t let it touch the insole. - **Tape the scarf in place.** Make sure the tape is only on the  outside and not inside the boot. ## Dry the Rain Boots Before Storing Don’t put away rain boots until you know they are completely dry.  Otherwise mold can start growing, especially if they have a lining or insole. **To dry rain boots for storage:** - Remove the insole. Set it to dry separately. - Put newspaper or towels inside the rain boots. - Keep upside down until completely dry. \*Never put rain boots next to a heater to dry.  The heat will cause the plastic or rubber to get brittle and crack. ## Clean the Inside with Vinegar Vinegar is a good natural antimicrobial.  It also won’t damage the rubber or PVC on rain boots like bleach does.  To use, dilute vinegar with water in a 1:1 ratio.  Pour some in the boots, swish around, and then dry.  For really stinky rain boots, use weaker solution (1:4 water to vinegar) and let it sit inside the boots for at least 15 minutes. ## Put Baking Soda in Boots After the boots are completely dry, you can sprinkle a bit of baking soda in them.   Just shake it out before wearing them the next time.   Or make little pouches/sachets with baking soda in them.  Throw some lavender in there too as a natural antibacterial and antifungal. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/baking-soda-and-lavender-sachets-min.jpg "baking soda and lavender sachets-min - Mom Goes Camping") ## Stinky Rain Boots FAQ: #### Why do rain boots smell so bad? Rain boots are waterproof  which means sweat and moisture have nowhere to go. That trapped moisture becomes a breeding ground for bacteria, which is what actually causes the smell. Kids’ boots are worse because they tend to wear them without socks, which dramatically increases the amount of sweat pooling inside. #### How do you get the smell out of rain boots? Diluted white vinegar is the most effective DIY solution it’s antimicrobial and won’t damage rubber or PVC. Mix one part vinegar to four parts water, pour some inside the boot, swish it around, then dry completely. For serious mold or odor, let the solution sit for 15 minutes before emptying. Baking soda sachets after drying help absorb ongoing moisture. #### Can rain boots grow mold inside? Yes — especially lined or insulated boots that retain moisture. If you store them while even slightly damp, mold can start within 24 to 48 hours in humid conditions. The fix is always the same: remove the insole, stuff with newspaper, and store upside down in a ventilated area until bone dry before putting them away. #### Should kids wear socks with rain boots? Always. Bare feet in rain boots means sweat pools directly in the boot causing smell, chafing, and blisters. If your child is sensory-sensitive about socks, try seamless socks or avoid patterned fabrics, which can have an uncomfortable weave. A thin silk or synthetic liner sock under a wool outer sock is the best combination for keeping feet dry and odor under control. #### Can you put rain boots in the dryer? No — heat causes rubber and PVC to become brittle and crack. Air dry only, ideally stuffed with newspaper and stored upside down in a ventilated spot out of direct sunlight. A boot dryer on a low setting is fine if it doesn’t produce significant heat. Never dry rain boots next to a radiator or heater. --- ###### Sources and image credits: <https://www.reddit.com/r/Mommit/comments/pzcxzh/question_just_got_my_2_yo_son_some_new_rain_boots/>, <https://www.reddit.com/r/toddlers/comments/lai9ng/puddle_loving_toddler_help/> “[Hanging Out](https://www.flickr.com/photos/courosa/5810034941/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [courosa](https://www.flickr.com/people/courosa/), ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [How to Use Permethrin to Prevent Ticks](https://momgoescamping.com/permethrin/) **Published:** April 25, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** While there are some [natural ways to keep ticks off of you](https://momgoescamping.com/natural-tick-prevention/), permethrin is the only reliable and effective way to prevent tick bites.  Considering that ticks can transmit over a dozen diseases in addition to Lyme, it’s well worth using to keep yourself safe from ticks. Read more about tick prevention below: - [Keep Ticks Out of Your Tent](https://momgoescamping.com/keep-ticks-out-of-tent/) - [Lyme Disease Rash Photos](https://momgoescamping.com/lyme-disease-rash-photos/) Even though permethrin has been commercially available since 2003, it’s only recently started to get popular with hikers, backpackers, and outdoor enthusiasts.  A lot of the reason for this is because people simply didn’t know how to use permethrin and weren’t sure about safety.  Here, I’ll go over everything you need to know to use permethrin against ticks, including how to apply permethrin and get the most out of treatments. \*Even if you do wear permethrin-treated clothing, make sure you still bring tweezers or another tick removal tool with you! The faster you get a tick off, the less likely you are to get an infection. Read more about [tick tools for humans](https://momgoescamping.com/tick-removal-tools-humans/) here. ## Jump to: - [**How to Apply Permethrin**](#apply) - [**Spray method**](#spray) - [**Soak method**](#soak) - [**FAQs**](#faqs) - [**What Clothing Should You Treat?**](#whatclothing) - [**Permethrin on Water-Resistant, DWR, and Waterproof clothes**](#waterproof) - [**How Much Permethrin Should You Use?** ](#howmuch) - [**Washing and Caring for Permethrin Clothes**](#washing) - [**How Often to Apply**](#howoften) - [**Permethrin Clothing vs. DIY Treatments** ](#clothing) - [**Is Permethrin Actually Effective Against Ticks?**](#effectiveness) - **[Permethrin against Mosquitoes](#mosquitoes)** - [**Vs. DEET**](#deet) - [**Permethrin Safety**](#safety) - **[Environmental concerns](#environment)** \[sta\_anchor id=”apply” /\] ## How to Apply Permethrin There are two ways you can apply permethrin to clothing: spraying it onto your clothes or soaking your clothes in a solution of permethrin.    The spray method is easiest, especially if you only have a few items to treat.  The soak method is better if you have lots of items to treat. Soaking also does a better job of coating the fabric and the treatment will last longer. Below are step-by-step instructions for each method. \[sta\_anchor id=”spray” /\] ### Permethrin Spray Instructions ![how to apply permethrin spray](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/permethrin-spray.jpg "how to apply permethrin spray - Mom Goes Camping") #### 1. Use only permethrin designed for clothing. Don’t use permethrin pesticides meant for plants.  These won’t stick well to clothing and will wear off too quickly. Sawyer Permethrin spray is the most popular.  Get it [here at Amazon](https://amzn.to/2x87Thr) or [here at REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DSawyer%2BPermethrin%26pagesize%3D90). --- #### 2. Hang your clothing in a well-ventilated area. Ideally apply the permethrin spray outdoors.  You can also apply it in your garage or any other area with good ventilation. - Never apply permethrin while wearing the clothes! - Stand up-wind while applying the permethrin spray. - If you have one, wear a face mask rated for aerosols. - If you have a cat, make sure the clothing is out of reach of your cat. --- #### 3. Spray the Permethrin - Hold the bottle 6-8 inches away from the clothes while spraying - Spray from the top of clothes to bottom - Make sure you get the cuffs of your sleeves and pants well.  This is where ticks frequently climb onto your skin. --- #### 4. Apply an even coating. You want the clothing to be completely damp with permethrin but not so wet that it is dripping.  Don’t be stingy when applying it! If the clothing doesn’t get completely covered with permethrin, it won’t be as effective at repelling ticks. **Tip:** Check the product to see how much one bottle should treat.  This will let you know whether you are applying enough of the spray.  For example, 4.5oz of Sawyer Permethrin spray will treat a complete outfit consisting of a shirt, pants, and socks. --- #### 5. Flip clothes and treat the other side. Again, move from top to bottom and make sure you get the clothing wet. --- #### 6.  Let clothing completely dry. It’s important that you let the clothing dry while hanging.  Once dry, the clothing is safer to handle.  It can take a few hours for the clothing to dry, especially if it is humid out. So make sure you apply the permethrin treatment at least a full day before you plan to wear them. There’s debate about whether you can dry permethrin-treated clothing in the drier to speed up the process.  In general, the answer is *no* because it could break down the treatment and make it less effective.  Just be patient.                                                        **Heading out soon?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup.                                                           **[Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** \[sta\_anchor id=”soak” /\] ### Permethrin Soak Instructions #### 1. Get Permethrin Made for Clothing You can find concentrated permethrin for sale at places like Amazon.  However, most of these are actually meant for plants/agriculture and should NOT be used on clothing.  It won’t stick well and will wash off quickly. The brand Duration used to make a 10% solution of permethrin that could be used on clothing, but it hasn’t been available for a while ([check here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=1e5b6e607ad3bde0dead0c4f51625624&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=hpc&keywords=Duration%20permethrin%2010)![](//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&l=ur2&o=1)).  They do still sell a pre-mixed [bulk jug of 0.5% permethrin](https://amzn.to/2KAGiZj).  You can also use any permethrin clothing spray; you just might need a few bottles of it. --- #### 2. Calculate How Much Permethrin You Need How much permethrin do you need for soaking?  The military uses 4.5oz of permethrin per uniform. Sawyer used to recommend about 3oz of diluted permethrin per garment (they now only give amounts for spraying, not soaking). See the FAQs for a more detailed way of calculating permethrin amounts. --- #### 3. Dilute Permethrin to 0.5% Permethrin for clothing should be diluted to 0.5% concentration.  This means the solution will contain 0.5 grams of permethrin per each 100 mL of solution. To dilute permethrin concentrate, first see what percentage the product is.  Sawyer Permethrin spray is already diluted to 0.5% so does not need to be diluted. Duration Permethrin, however, is 10% permethrin.  You’d need to dilute it to 1 part permethrin and 19 parts water. **Here’s a [good dilution calculator](https://www.calkoo.com/en/solution-dilution-calculator).** \***Wear gloves while mixing permethrin!** --- #### 4. Put Clothing and Permethrin Solution in Plastic Zip Bags Some people soak their clothes in permethrin in buckets.  It works, but you end up with a lot of waste.  Instead, it’s better to use a plastic bags. - **First put your clothing item/s into the bag.** Make sure it fits and there is adequate space left over. - **Pour the pre-mixed permethrin solution into the bag.** You’ll need about 3oz per garment, or you can do the math to find a more exact amount. - **Gently squeeze the bag.** You want to get the permethrin into the clothing fibers.  The item should be damp all over. - **Add more permethrin if necessary.** If the clothing item still has dry spots and there isn’t any liquid left in the bag, add some more 0.5% permethrin solution to the bag. --- #### 5. Let Clothing Sit in Solution Leave the clothing to sit in the permethrin solution for about an hour. You can roll down the tops of the bags and put rubber bands around them so they are less likely to leak. --- #### 6. Remove Clothes and Hang to Dry While wearing gloves, take the clothes out and put them on hangers to dry.  Ideally you should do this in a place which has ventilation but is not in direct sunlight.  The UV rays in sunlight will break down the permethrin.  Your garage or yard in the evening are good places. Once dry, you can wear the treated clothing immediately.  There’s no need to wash them before wearing; that will actually just start breaking down the permethrin treatment. --- #### 7. Disposing of Unused Permethrin Do not pour permethrin down the drain.  It is very harmful to aquatic life.  You also don’t want to dump it onto the ground where it could get into the ground water. The good news is that permethrin is inactivated by UV light.  So, the best way to dispose of unused permethrin is to leave it outside in a bucket exposed to sunlight.  Ideally, wait until the permethrin has completely evaporated from the bucket. \[sta\_anchor id=”faqs” /\] ## Permethrin FAQs \[sta\_anchor id=”whatclothing” /\] ### What Clothing Should You Treat with Permethrin? Studies show that, during spring and summer, ticks are most likely to get onto your body by crawling up your feet and ankles.  Thus, it is really important you treat your shoes and socks with permethrin.   This alone has been shown to reduce your likelihood of getting bit by ticks by nearly 74x.  By contrast, treating just your shirt and shorts only reduce your likelihood of getting bit by 2x. ([Source](https://momgoescamping.com/best-hiking-backpacks-petite-women/)) However, it doesn’t make much sense to treat just your socks and shoes.  Do you ever sit down while hiking? Dig a cathole to go to the bathroom? Stop to forage some wild berries?  These are just some of the situations where nymph ticks from the ground can get to your upper body. **For best results, treat these items with permethrin:** - **Shoes and socks** - **Pants** (preferably wear long pants not shorts) - **Shirt** (preferably long sleeves) - **Jacket** - **Hat** (this is especially important for keeping ticks out of your hair) - **Backpack, tent, and other gear made from fabric** Note the EPA says that you should NOT treat your underwear with permethrin. Likewise, don’t treat the INSIDE of tents or sleeping bags. \[sta\_anchor id=”waterproof” /\] ### Can You Use Permethrin Water-Resistant and DWR-Treated Clothing? Yes, permethrin can be used on water-resistant clothing.  It won’t damage the waterproofing.  The only downside is that the permethrin will wear off faster than if you’d applied it to a more absorbent material like cotton. If you apply your own water-resistant coating to clothes (such as a DWR spray), it is important that you apply the DWR treatment *before* the permethrin treatment.  Otherwise the permethrin will get trapped below the DWR and won’t be effective. #### What about Using Permethrin on Waterproof Clothing? You could apply permethrin to waterproof clothing such as rain jackets.  Some of the permethrin would stick and help with preventing ticks.  However, the coating will wear off very quickly. It’s probably not necessary anyway because insects can’t get through true waterproof gear like they can through water-resistant gear. \[sta\_anchor id=”howmuch” /\] ### How Much Permethrin Should You Use on Clothing? Sawyer recommends using 3oz of permethrin per garment or 4.5oz of permethrin for a complete outfit (shirt, pants and socks).  The US Military uses 4.5oz for a uniform. Considering that clothing varies drastically in size and thickness, these are obviously just rough estimates. If you want to be very exact (and don’t mind doing some math), here is a more exact method of calculating how much permethrin to use on clothing: - **Mesh:** 0.10 to 0.50 grams of *active* permethrin per square meter of fabric - **Cotton and thin fabrics:** 0.70-1.20 grams of *active* permethrin per square meter of fabric - **Thicker fabrics:** 0.65 to 1.25 grams of *active* permethrin per square meter of fabric. How much fabric is in a garment? I did an internet search and here’s what I found (amounts given for medium size) - **T-shirts:** 1.7 to 2.1 square meters of fabric - **Pants:** 1.7 to 2.5 square meters Remember not to be stingy when applying permethrin.  The Army found that increasing the amount of permethrin applied to uniforms from 3oz to 4.5oz increased the protection time from 2-3 weeks to 6 weeks. By applying enough permethrin to truly saturate the fabric fibers, you save money in the long run. \[sta\_anchor id=”washing” /\] ### Washing and Caring for Permethrin-Treated Clothing Home-applied permethrin treatments will generally last through four to six washings or 6 weeks.  It’s best to hand wash or wash on the gentle cycle. Because oxygen and UV light break down permethrin, **store treated clothing in a sealed plastic bag away from sunlight**.  The treatment will last much longer this way. Just make sure your hiking clothes are completely dry before you put them in the plastic bag or they will get stinky and moldy! **Random Tip:** I’ve recently invested in good Merino wool hiking shirts. They don’t get stinky like synthetic shits do, so I can go a lot longer without washing them.  Also read: [Is Merino Wool Worth It?](https://momgoescamping.com/is-merino-wool-worth-it/) \[sta\_anchor id=”howoften” /\] ### How Often Should I Apply Permethrin? DIY permethrin treatments need to be redone after 4-6 washings.  Shoes should be treated again after about 4-6 weeks. It’s best to do permethrin treatment at the start of the tick season in spring.  Because ticks are still in their nymph stage and thus closer to the ground, it’s particularly important that you treat your shoes and shocks.  Later in the season, it becomes more important to treat your shirt and hat. \[sta\_anchor id=”clothing” /\] ### Permethrin Clothing vs. DIY Treatment? There are plenty of brands which now sell permethrin clothing. The commercial treatment on these clothes will last a lot longer than DIY permethrin treatments: up to 70 washings compared to just 4-6 washings with the DIY sprays. Because of this, it is usually cheaper to buy pre-treated permethrin clothing than do it yourself. #### **Cost Comparison** A 24oz bottle of Sawyer Permethrin Spray costs approximately $17-$18 [at REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DSawyer%2BPermethrin%26pagesize%3D90) (check price [at Amazon](https://amzn.to/2x87Thr)). It will treat 5 outfits (1 pants, 1 shirt, and a pair of socks). About half of the solution goes to the pants and the other half to the shirt and socks. That means it will cost you $9 to treat 5 pants, or $1.8 per pants. The treatment will last up to 6 washes. Assuming you wash your pants after each wear, that means **DIY treatment costs you $0.30 per wear.** Permethrin pants cost around $80 at REI but you can get 70 washes before the permethrin treatment wears off.  If you wash the pants after each wear, **it comes out to $1.14 per wear** – plus you get the actual pants too. REI also often has good deals on permethrin clothing (at time of writing, a lot of [their permethrin clothing](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dpermethrin%26pagesize%3D90) are 50% off and cost under $40).  This makes commercial permethrin clothing much cheaper than DIY treatments. Even if you buy pre-treated permethrin clothing, you’ll still need to get some spray for your shoes.  Since shoes are where nymph ticks often get onto our bodies, you really don’t want to skimp on treating your shoes! #### **Reputable brands of permethrin clothing:** - [Insect Shield](https://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=29dd4edfe89f140a2e6a35d0a22f6f63&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=apparel&keywords=Insect%20Shield)![](//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&l=ur2&o=1): Also has clothing for kids and items like socks - [REI permethrin clothing](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dpermethrin%26pagesize%3D90) \[sta\_anchor id=”effectiveness” /\] ## Is Permethrin Actually Effective Against Ticks? ![effectiveness of permethrin clothing](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/8411824245_da573d0176_w.jpg "effectiveness of permethrin clothing - Mom Goes Camping")*USDA chemist testing permethrin treated clothing* Permethrin-treated clothing is very effective at repelling and killing ticks.  It’s used by the US Military and has been tested numerous times. One [study](https://academic.oup.com/jme/article/48/2/327/893233) used real human subjects and had them wear socks, shoes, shorts, and t-shirts treated in permethrin. Then the researchers put ticks on the subjects’ legs, shoe, or arm and waited two hours.  The subjects wearing permethrin clothing had 3.36 times fewer bites.  Most notably was that the **subjects with permethrin-treated shoes were 73.6 times less likely to have been bitten.**  Of the ticks which did bite, only 22.6% of them remained alive vs. 97.6% of attached ticks in the control group. [Another study](https://www.ajpmonline.org/article/S0749-3797(14)00038-5/fulltext) tracked tick bites on wildlife workers at North Carolina forest. The study found that workers wearing permethrin clothing had much fewer bites: 0.24 bites for every 100 hours spent working vs. 1.37 bites on those who didn’t wear permethrin clothing.  That’s a huge difference. \[sta\_anchor id=”mosquitoes” /\] ### Permethrin Against Mosquitoes Permethrin can also kill mosquitoes.  It has a “knock down” effect, meaning that mosquitoes which come in contact with permethrin clothing will be killed or incapacitated. However, this only occurs if the mosquitoes land on your clothing.  The permethrin doesn’t repel mosquitoes like DEET does, so the mosquitoes could just land on your face, hands, or any other exposed skin.  To be effective against mosquitoes, you’d have to be wearing pants and a long-sleeve shirt treated in permethrin and have a mosquito hat on over your face. \[sta\_anchor id=”deet” /\] ### Vs. DEET When it comes to repelling and killing ticks, permethrin is much better than DEET.  Because it isn’t applied to the skin, permethrin is also much safer than DEET.  Another benefit of permethrin is that it doesn’t wear off quickly; DEET needs to be reapplied often, especially if you are sweating. Permethrin can survive several washings. However, DEET wins hands-down when it comes to mosquitoes. It will actually repel mosquitoes and prevent them from landing on you whereas permethrin only works if the mosquitoes land on your treated clothing. The bottom line? If you want to stop ticks, just permethrin clothing is fine.  If you want to prevent tick and mosquito bites, then you’ll need to use *both* permethrin and DEET. \[sta\_anchor id=”safety” /\] ## Permethrin Safety The main reason that permethrin hasn’t gained popularity is because people are worried about spraying an insecticide on their clothing. Various government agencies have said it is safe, but a lot of people simply don’t trust what the government says.  If you are one of these people, you’ll have to balance your uneasiness about using a pesticide on your clothes with the risk of tick diseases. Permethrin works against insects and ticks by interfering with their nervous system, causing them to have brain spasms and die.  Yes, this sounds scary for humans.  But humans have different nervous systems, so the chemical acts differently on us. Further, our bodies can actually handle a fairly large amount of permethrin. According to Tick Encounter Resource Center, a 140lb human  can be exposed to 32 grams of permethrin per day and not have any adverse health effects. To put this in perspective, a 24oz bottle of Sawyer Permethrin spray contains 3.5 grams of active permethrin. Permethrin is the active ingredient in lice and scabies treatments which have been used for a long time. Studies have even found that permethrin is safe for pregnant women and children.   The National Pesticide Information Center says that you might feel some tingling or redness if you get permethrin on your skin, but it won’t cause serious symptoms. **This doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be careful.** - Follow the manufacturer’s instructions exactly when applying permethrin. - Always wear gloves when applying. - Don’t touch clothing while it is still wet. - Wear a face mask when spraying permethrin. - Apply spray permethrin in a well-ventilated area, ideally outdoors. - Don’t use agricultural permethrin on your clothes. \[sta\_anchor id=”environment” /\] ### Permethrin and the Environment While permethrin might not be harmful to humans, it can be harmful to animals including aquatic life, bees and cats.  However, it’s only dangerous while it is still wet. That’s why it is so important you never dump unused permethrin down the drain on onto the ground.  You need to leave the permethrin exposed to air and sunlight so it can deactivate and evaporate. **But what if you were to ford a stream with permethrin-treated shoes? Or it starts raining while you are hiking in permethrin-treated clothing?** [According to Thomas Mather](https://thewirecutter.com/blog/permethrin-protect-from-ticks/) of the University of Rhode Island’s Center for Vector-Borne Disease and TickEncounter, permethrin doesn’t come off fibers once it has dried. That’s why it can go through the wash so many times and still be effective. So, getting your permethrin-treated clothing wet won’t harm you or wildlife around you. However, it is possible for permethrin residue to get into water treatment systems from our washing machines; we just don’t know how dangerous this is.  Studies like [this one](https://ca.water.usgs.gov/pubs/KuivilaEtAl2012.pdf) have already found that streams outside of municipal areas contain levels of permethrin toxic to aquatic life. This pollution is likely from agricultural pesticides and not from treating your clothes with permethrin.  I’m not trying to say that pollution from clothing treatments is okay, but realistically the bigger issue which needs to be addressed is pesticide use in farming. ## Permethrin FAQ: #### Is permethrin safe to use on clothing? Yes — when applied correctly and allowed to dry completely before wearing. Various government agencies including the EPA and CDC have reviewed the evidence and consider permethrin-treated clothing safe for adults, children, and pregnant women. The key precautions: never apply it while wearing the clothing, wear gloves during application, and don’t handle treated clothing while it’s still wet. #### How long does permethrin last on clothing? DIY spray treatments last through 4 to 6 washings, or about 6 weeks. Factory-treated permethrin clothing (brands like Insect Shield) lasts up to 70 washings significantly longer and usually more cost-effective over the life of the garment. Either way, shoes need retreating after about 4 to 6 weeks of regular use regardless of washing. #### Can you use permethrin on a tent? Yes — treat the outside of the tent fabric, especially the lower walls and floor area where ticks are most likely to climb. Never treat the inside of a tent or sleeping bag, as these are in direct prolonged contact with your skin and the permethrin hasn’t been tested for that kind of sustained exposure. #### Is permethrin safe for cats? No — permethrin is highly toxic to cats, even in small amounts. Keep treated clothing completely out of reach of cats until fully dry, and ideally store it in a sealed bag away from anywhere cats sleep or play. This is a real risk, not a theoretical one  veterinary poisoning cases from permethrin-treated clothing are documented. #### Does permethrin repel mosquitoes? Not by itself. Permethrin has a knockdown effect  mosquitoes that land on treated fabric are killed or incapacitated — but it doesn’t prevent them from landing on exposed skin. For mosquito protection you need DEET or picaridin on skin plus permethrin on clothing. For tick protection alone, permethrin on clothing is sufficient. **Also see:** - **[Best Tick Removal Tools for Humans](https://momgoescamping.com/tick-removal-tools-humans/)** - **[How to Remove a Tick Head Stuck in Your Skin](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-remove-a-tick-head-stuck-in-your-skin/)** --- ###### Resources: <https://tickencounter.org> <https://www.consumerreports.org/insect-repellent/how-to-use-permethrin-on-clothing-safely/> <https://tickinfo.com/permethrin> [https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/permethrin-on-water-resistant-pants/ ](https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/permethrin-on-water-resistant-pants/) http://pmep.cce.cornell.edu/profiles/extoxnet/metiram-propoxur/permethrin-ext.html <https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2018/07/09/625459326/to-repel-ticks-try-spraying-your-clothes-with-a-pesticide-derived-from-mums> <https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/permethrin-on-water-resistant-pants/> <https://thewirecutter.com/blog/permethrin-protect-from-ticks/> [Book: Vector Control: Methods for Use by Individuals and Communities](https://apps.who.int/iris/handle/10665/41968) https://reverseresources.net/news/how-much-does-garment-industry-actually-waste <https://www.dummies.com/crafts/sewing/estimating-fabric-yardage-needs-for-common-misses-garments/>, [https://www.nzdl.org/cgi-bin/library?e=d-00000-00—off-0cdl–00-0—-0-10-0—0—0direct-10—4——-0-0l–11-en-50—20-about—00-0-1-00-0–4—-0-0-11-10-0utfZz-8-10&cl=CL2.22&d=HASH01f16a8f5683d1b9215656d3.6.4.3>=1](https://www.nzdl.org/cgi-bin/library?e=d-00000-00---off-0cdl--00-0----0-10-0---0---0direct-10---4-------0-0l--11-en-50---20-about---00-0-1-00-0--4----0-0-11-10-0utfZz-8-10&cl=CL2.22&d=HASH01f16a8f5683d1b9215656d3.6.4.3>=1) Image credit:”[d2624-2](https://www.flickr.com/photos/usdagov/8411824245/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [USDAgov](https://www.flickr.com/people/usdagov/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety **Tags:** ticks --- ### [When Can You Use a Bike Trailer or Stroller with a Baby?](https://momgoescamping.com/bike-trailer-age-baby/) **Published:** December 15, 2024 **Author:** Diane **Content:** If you look at the manufacturer’s recommendations on bike trailers for kids, you’ll see that babies must be 12 months old to use the trailer, or they will defer to “consult with your pediatrician.” [![Burley bike trailer minimum age recommendations](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/minimum-age.jpg "minimum age - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/minimum-age.jpg) But (*gasp!*) a lot of parents cycle with their babies long before they are one year old. If you aren’t sure when it’s okay to bike with your baby, here’s what you need to know about the 12 month recommendation, and some guidelines for biking with infants and younger babies. **Side Note:** No, you aren’t selfish for wanting to cycle with your child. Just because you have a baby, it doesn’t mean you should have to drive everywhere! I hate that I even need to say that, but it’s amazing how many “selfish” comments you get whenever you do anything “risky” with your baby! ## Why the 12 Month Age Recommendation? The reason for waiting until 12 months to put a baby in a bike trailer isn’t because of crashes: it is because babies have weak necks. They have very little control over their head. Bike trailers can get very bumpy and your baby will get jostled around in the trailer. Those jostles can cause a subtle version of Shaken Baby Syndrome, injuring their spine and bruising the brain. Scary, huh? Some cyclist parents say that the jostling is no worse than pushing your baby in a stroller. I call BS.  Strollers do not go at high speeds. Hitting a rock at walking or even jogging speed is *not* the same as hitting it at 20mph.  And a roll-over accident is going to be a LOT worse for an infant than a child who has neck control.  I personally wouldn’t consider biking with a baby until they were at least 3 or 4 months old. [![baby in car seat in bike trailer](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/baby-in-car-seat-in-bike-trailer.jpg "baby in car seat in bike trailer - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/baby-in-car-seat-in-bike-trailer.jpg)                                                        **Heading out with kids?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup. **[                                                            Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** ### How to Determine If Your Baby Is Ready for a Bike Trailer Your baby is ready for a bike trailer when they can sit up by themselves. It’s not enough for them to remain in sitting position if you put them there. They should also be able to hold their head steady when you pick them up and sway them back and forth. Of course, check with your pediatrician. [![do kids need a helmet in a bike trailer?](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/bike-trailer-for-kids-do-they-need-a-helmet-1024x512.jpg "bike trailer for kids do they need a helmet - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/bike-trailer-for-kids-do-they-need-a-helmet.jpg)At 9 months she could sit upright well enough for short bike rides in the trailer ## Helmet Laws Another reason why you may need to wait until 12 months to bike with your baby is because of helmet laws. Many states require all children—including children in bike trailers—to wear helmets. Do NOT put a helmet on your baby. The straps are a strangling hazard, and the helmet also can push their head into an unsafe position.  You probably won’t be able to find an infant-sized helmet anyway.  The smallest ones are usually for around 9 months old. Also read: - [Best Bike Trailers for Kids with Suspension](https://momgoescamping.com/bike-trailers-kids-suspension-off-road/) - [Do Kids Need Helmets in a Bike Trailer?](https://momgoescamping.com/do-kids-need-helmet-bike-trailer/) - [Using a Convertible Bike Trailer as a Hiking Stroller](https://momgoescamping.com/using-a-convertible-bike-trailer-as-a-hiking-stroller/) - [Do children need helmets when in a bike trailer?](https://momgoescamping.com/do-kids-need-helmet-bike-trailer/) ## How come it’s okay for the Dutch to cycle with newborns? When you see an infant on a bike in the Netherlands, it is usually a cargo bike or trike. These bikes do a much better job of absorbing impact, so the ride isn’t as bumpy for the passenger. Those bikes can be hard to find in the USA and are expensive. An alternative (which is also expensive, but you’ll get more use out of it than a cargo bike) is to get a [high-end bike trailer with a suspension system](https://momgoescamping.com/bike-trailers-kids-suspension-off-road/), such as the [Thule Chariot](https://amzn.to/3ZD1Ydt) or Burley D’Lite. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/baby-in-cargo-bike.jpg "baby in cargo bike - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/baby-in-cargo-bike.jpg)This is common in the Netherlands but country is designed for cyclists and not cars ## If You Are Going to Cycle with an Infant… There are certainly some situations where it is healthier and safer to bike with your baby (especially compared to putting them in a car going 60mph down a freeway!).  However, if you are going to do it, be smart about it: ### 1. Use a Car Seat or Insert Never put a baby who can’t sit upright directly in the bike trailer. They won’t be able to sit properly and will have zero support for their neck. The best solution is to put a car seat in the bike trailer. It will hold position your baby in a safe position.  If a roll-over accident occurs, the car seat handle acts as an additional roll bar. The car seat also adds weight to the bike trailer, forcing you to go slower.Make sure you strap the car seat into the trailer! I’ve heard of people attaching the car seat base to the trailer and then putting the seat on top of this. There are also sling inserts you can get for bike trailers. These are only meant to be used in strolling mode, but I’ve seen parents use them while cycling (never tried it myself, though). Compared to a car seat in the trailer, a sling smooths out some of the bumps because it is suspended above the trailer. [Thule](https://amzn.to/3xp4Z73) and [Burley](https://amzn.to/3z9tZzC) both make infant sling inserts, but damn are they expensive! ### 2. Stick to Smooth Roads A road that is somewhat bumpy for you will be very bumpy for your baby. Only go on very smooth roads. ### 3. Stay Away from Cars Drivers can be absolutely crazy.  You don’t want a car getting too close and causing a roll-over accident when you’ve got a baby in the trailer.  Only ride on roads with bike lanes and very little traffic. ### 4. Go SLOW The faster you go, the more vibrations your baby will experience. Speed also increases the likelihood of a roll-over accident. **Of course, you should only bike with a baby at your own risk and discretion!** ## Baby in Bike Trailer FAQ: #### What age can a baby go in a bike trailer? Most manufacturers say 12 months, and that’s the safest guideline to follow. The reason isn’t crash protection it’s neck strength. Babies under 12 months don’t have reliable head and neck control, and the jostling from even a smooth bike ride can be risky. Some parents start earlier with extra precautions, but 12 months is the defensible standard. #### Can a baby wear a helmet in a bike trailer? Standard infant helmets don’t fit well on young babies, and an ill-fitting helmet can actually make things worse by adding weight the neck can’t support. For babies under 12 months, the helmet question is somewhat moot the bigger issue is whether they should be in the trailer at all. Once they’re old enough and have good neck control, yes, a properly fitted helmet is essential. #### What signs show a baby is ready for a bike trailer? The key milestone is sitting up independently with good head control — not just propped up, but genuinely stable. This typically happens between 9 and 12 months. Once they can hold their head steady through movement and maintain upright posture without support, the jostling risk is significantly reduced. #### Are bike trailers safe for babies? For babies over 12 months with good neck control, yes bike trailers are generally considered safer than bike seats because of their low center of gravity and enclosed structure. For younger babies, the safety concern isn’t the trailer itself but the developmental stage. A trailer with good suspension reduces jostling, which matters most for younger riders. #### What’s the difference between a bike trailer and a stroller for babies? A bike trailer attaches to an adult bike and travels at cycling speeds, which introduces more jostling and higher rollover risk than a stroller. A stroller moves at walking or jogging speeds on foot. Some bike trailers convert into strollers — but even convertible models should only be used in trailer mode for children 12 months and older, regardless of what the stroller conversion allows. --- ###### Resources: <https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27586118/>, <https://cypf.berkshirehealthcare.nhs.uk/media/33429358/handle-with-care-guide-keeping-baby-safe.pdf>, <https://www.mountsinai.org/health-library/injury/shaken-baby-syndrome> , <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/354498779_Safety_Analysis_of_Children_Transported_by_Bicycles_in_Urban_Accident_Situations> ###### **Image credits:** “[At The Beach 16 July ’11](https://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasrdororg/5942284817/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [thomasrdotorg](https://www.flickr.com/people/thomasrdororg/), “[20080330\_17-12-21](https://www.flickr.com/photos/ubrayj02/2433910971/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [ubrayj02](https://www.flickr.com/people/ubrayj02/), “[First bike and trailer ride](https://www.flickr.com/photos/jackvinson/900063/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [JackVinson](https://www.flickr.com/people/jackvinson/), “[2015-04-11 12.46.00](https://www.flickr.com/photos/whiteknuckled/17089723566/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [whiteknuckled](https://www.flickr.com/people/whiteknuckled/), “[Bode and Lena](https://www.flickr.com/photos/markstos/2726219465/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [Mark Stosberg](https://www.flickr.com/people/markstos/), “[Com muito espaço para crescer! 🙂](https://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpoweredstuff/5271853377/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Cenas a Pedal](https://www.flickr.com/people/pedalpoweredstuff/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids --- ### [Best Hiking Umbrellas, and Are They Really Worth It?](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-umbrellas/) **Published:** February 16, 2024 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Let’s be clear: so long as you are following the principles of Leave No Trace, there is no “right” or “wrong” way to hike.  But that doesn’t mean you aren’t likely to get a bunch of weird looks if you carrying an umbrella while hiking or backpacking. Hiking snobbery aside, there are some situations where it is completely idiotic to use an umbrella on the trail.  And there are also some situations where it is absolutely genius (and those same hiking snobs will be envious :)).  I’ll go over those situations here, as well as how to attach a hiking umbrella to your pack and which hiking umbrellas are worth buying. ## Hiking Umbrellas Are Usually Terrible in the Rain If you look at hiker boxes on popular trails, you’ll see that they are full of abandoned umbrellas.  That’s because a lot of hikers optimistically pack umbrellas thinking they will be good for the rain only to realize that they have these problems when hiking: - **Poor Rain Protection:** Unless the rain is falling straight down, an umbrella only protects your head.   A rain jacket provides much better protection. - **Snag On Overgrowth:** Umbrellas are very wide.  If the trail is even slightly overgrown, the umbrella will annoyingly snag every two minutes. - **Wind:** When hiking anywhere above treeline or without tree cover, the hard wind will destroy your umbrella or blow on it so hard that it becomes impossible to carry. - **Need Two Hands:** On difficult segments or trails or steep inclines, you’ll want to have both hands free for safety in case you fall. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/hiking-umbrella-in-the-rain-dont-work.jpg "hiking umbrella in the rain dont work - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/hiking-umbrella-in-the-rain-dont-work.jpg)Youll notice that she still has to wear full rain gear even with an umbrella ## When Using a Hiking Umbrella Actually Makes Sense in the Rain If the trail is wide and clear *and* the conditions won’t be too windy, a hiking umbrella can be awesome for these reasons. - **Breathability:** In balmy weather, you end up wet from sweat when wearing a rain jacket shell.  And, as old school hikers will tell you, an umbrella is a lot more breathable (and cheaper!) than a good shell. - **You Wear Glasses:** As someone who wears glasses, I can attest to how much it sucks to hike in the rain.  Even with a brimmed hat or your jacket visor pulled all the way down, the glasses still end up wet.  Since all my hiking clothing is synthetic or wool fibers, I have to carry a separate microfiber towel just for drying my glasses. - **Hats Suck:** Not only do hats trap heat on your head, but they limit visibility.  (My sister once knocked herself out while hiking and reading a map because she walked into a tree she couldn’t see because of the hat!). - **Hoods Also Suck:** I hate jacket hoods even more than hats. Even when they are pulled all the way down, they don’t block rain from your eyes well.  Hoods also trap heat and you have to listen to the jacket rustling sound around your ears.   Forget about talking to your hiking partner with a hood on! - **You Get a Dry Place:** It’s more enjoyable to do things like eat snacks under an umbrella. And it’s definitely easier to do tasks like checking your paper or check your (paper!) map. - **Privacy:** An umbrella can also serve as a privacy screen for when you need to go to the bathroom along popular trails where there are zero trees or bushes to hide behind! [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/hiking-umbrella-with-rain-skirt.jpg "hiking umbrella with rain skirt - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/hiking-umbrella-with-rain-skirt.jpg)It might look silly but an umbrella + rain skirt provides good protection with amazing breathability[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/hiking-umbrella-in-the-rain.jpg "hiking umbrella in the rain - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/hiking-umbrella-in-the-rain.jpg)The trail is wide clear and isnt steep so using a hiking umbrella actually makes sense ## Hiking Umbrellas for Sun Protection Hiking umbrellas are most useful when hiking in very hot sunny conditions (I guess we should be calling them parasols and not umbrellas…) – especially if you will hike on roads. For example, the Ice Age National Scenic Trail in Wisconsin has a lot of sections that are on pavement.  It gets insanely hot and there’s no shade. Using an umbrella on these stretches will make it more bearable. I’ve also heard from a lot of bald hikers about how much they appreciate an umbrella on sunny days. It turns out that wearing a hat in the sun traps an insane amount of heat and makes you feel uncomfortable. An umbrella also beats slathering yourself with tons of sunblock.  Did you know you are supposed to reapply sunblock every TWO HOURS when sweating? Theoretically, the extra weight of the umbrella might balance out since you won’t have to pack as much sunblock. **Fun fact:** While white might be best at *reflecting* sun, black is best at protecting against UV rays. That’s why hiking sun umbrellas are silver on the outside and black on the underside. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/hiking-umbrella-in-the-sun.jpg "hiking umbrella in the sun - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/hiking-umbrella-in-the-sun.jpg)Having a UPF umbrella in these conditions is awesome ## Attaching an Umbrella to Your Pack Attaching the umbrella to your pack means you can use it hands-free.  This is crucial if you want to do things like check your map or sit for a break without having to put the umbrella down each time! There are a several ways to do this. ### 1. Put the Handle Under Your Sternum Strap (Not Recommended) With this method, the lower part of the handle is underneath your sternum strap and the upper part rests on your shoulders. No extra straps or cords needed.  However, the umbrella can dig into your shoulders and will slide around a lot.  I don’t recommend it. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/hiking-umbrella-under-sternum-strap.jpg "hiking umbrella under sternum strap - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/hiking-umbrella-under-sternum-strap.jpg)The umbrella shaft is jus tucked under the sternum strap Easy but it isnt comfortable ### 2. Cords + Cordlocks 1. Get two pieces of elastic cord and two cordlocks 2. Put cords around your backpack strap and then slide the cordlocks over them to create loops. 3. Position the cords so one is up near your shoulder and the other about 6 inches down from it. 4. Put your umbrella handle through the cord. 5. Tighten the cordlocks to secure the umbrella in place. A lot of brands sell “hands-free umbrella kits” specifically for this purpose.  But you could just as easily make your own.  The one shown below is by Six Moon Designs. [![six moon designs umbrella hands free kit](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/six-moon-designs-umbrella-hands-free-kit.jpg "six moon designs umbrella hands free kit - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/six-moon-designs-umbrella-hands-free-kit.jpg) ### 3. Umbrella Holster Clips Instead of using two cords, this method uses one cord plus a special clip.  The clip is a bit less wobbly than a cord.   The image below shows the system by Z Packs. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/zpacks-umbrella-holster.jpg "zpacks umbrella holster - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/zpacks-umbrella-holster.jpg) Also, check out [this system](https://imgur.com/gallery/LNqGFWJ).  He sewed two umbrella clips to different places on his pack strap.  The end of the umbrella goes into his shoulder strap pocket.  Then he clips the handle into one of the clips.  Having two clips means he can adjust the height and angle of his umbrella depending on the conditions. ### 4. Guylines for Wind If you want to *really* secure your umbrella so it stays in place even in the wind, then check out this system by Liveslight.  He’s got guylines attaching the umbrella to his pack. ## Hiking Umbrella vs. Regular Umbrella? What makes a “hiking” umbrella different than regular umbrellas are features like: - Reflective with UPF protection - Carbon fiber frame to make it lightweight but strong - Shorter handles to make them more lightweight - Foam handle for grip - Shaft not collapsible so you can use the umbrella for pitching a tarp or shelter Not surprisingly, any umbrella marketing itself as a “hiking umbrella” is going to cost a LOT more than a normal umbrella. If you aren’t even sure you’ll like hiking with an umbrella, **just use a cheap regular umbrella at first.**  Test it out on a few day hikes before you drop $50 for a hiking umbrella for your big adventure. **Note:Hiking umbrellas are usually terrible for everyday use.** Because they have such short handles, lightweight hiking umbrellas can actually be annoying to hold in your hand.  They are really designed to be clipped to your shoulder strap. ## Best Hiking Umbrellas The brands below make good hiking umbrellas. ### Six Moon Designs Umbrellas [![six moon designs silver shade hiking umbrella](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/smd-silver-shade-umbrella.jpg "smd silver shade umbrella - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/smd-silver-shade-umbrella.jpg) SMD makes several different ultralight umbrellas that are actually constructed very well.  The Silver Shadow line is made for sun and light rain whereas the Rainwalker does not have UV protection. - **[Silver Shadow](https://amzn.to/42KLDo4):** 6.8oz, 37” diameter, 23.5” shaft, carbon fiber frame, foam handle, UPF 50+ - **[Silver Shadow Mini Collapsible](https://amzn.to/3SE6LYN):** 7.1oz, 38” diameter, 20” shaft, carbon fiber and aluminum frame with plastic or foam handle, UPF 50+ - **[Silver Shadow Base](https://amzn.to/49hOvvm):** 8.9oz, 37” diameter, 23.5” shaft, fiberglass frame, foam handle, UPF 50+ - **[Rain Walker SUL](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=8aa14f51-1fb2-4c30-b785-1c6c0a96cd31&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.garagegrowngear.com%2Fcollections%2Fumbrellas%2Fproducts%2Frain-walker-sul-umbrella-by-six-moon-designs):** 5.5oz, 37” diameter, 23.5” shaft, carbon fiber frame with foam handle **Also available at [Garage Grown Gear](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=8aa14f51-1fb2-4c30-b785-1c6c0a96cd31&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.garagegrowngear.com%2Fcollections%2Fumbrellas)** --- ### Gossamer Gear Umbrellas Gossamer Gear has a couple of umbrellas.  The Lightrek is affordable (for ultralight gear at least!) but isn’t as strong as their Gold Dome which is made from carbon fiber.   Like with SMD umbrellas, the shaft is not collapsible. - **Lightrek:**6.3oz, 37.5” diameter, 25” shaft, aluminum frame, foam handle, UPF 50+ - **Gold Dome:** 6.6oz (with strap), 37.5” diameter, 25” shaft, carbon fiber, foam handle, UPF 50+ **Available at [Garage Grown Gear](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=8aa14f51-1fb2-4c30-b785-1c6c0a96cd31&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.garagegrowngear.com%2Fcollections%2Fumbrellas)** --- ### G4Free G4Free makes a few lightweight umbrellas which are marketed for trekking, travel or golf.  The Liteflex Mini is made from fiberglass, which is stronger than aluminum but heavier.  Fiberglass isn’t as strong as carbon fiber but it’s a lot cheaper.  It comes with loops for attaching to your pack. The G4Free umbrella could also work for hiking but it has a weird plastic disc handle.  You’ll need to put a piece of foam around the shaft to keep it from wobbling when attached to your pack.  It’s cheap but doesn’t come with loops for attaching to your pack. - **[Liteflex Mini](https://amzn.to/4bCWO6x):** 9.5oz, 38” diameter, 23” shaft, fiberglass frame, UPF 50+ - **[G4Free Travel](https://amzn.to/3ON56Ph):** 4.5oz, 37.5” diameter, 20” shaft, carbon fiber ribs and aluminum shaft, plastic disc handle, UPF 50+ --- ### Euroschirm Swing Liteflex Formerly the GoLite Chrome Dome, this umbrella is a bit heavier at 9oz but its aluminum and fiberglass frame are quite sturdy.  Get it here. [Available here](https://amzn.to/49jh1fV). ## Hiking Umbrella FAQ: #### Are hiking umbrellas worth it? For sun protection on exposed trails, absolutely. For rain on a typical wooded trail with wind and overgrowth — usually not. The sweet spot is long open sections like road walks, desert hiking, or above-treeline stretches in calm conditions where a rain jacket would leave you soaked in sweat. If you hike in a lot of those conditions, a hiking umbrella is worth every ounce. #### What’s the difference between a hiking umbrella and a regular umbrella? Hiking umbrellas are lighter (typically 5–10oz vs 12–16oz for a standard umbrella), have shorter handles designed to clip to a pack strap, a non-collapsible shaft that can double as a trekking pole or tent stake in a pinch, and UPF 50+ fabric. They’re also significantly more expensive. If you’re just testing the concept, a cheap regular umbrella on a day hike will tell you whether you like hiking with one before you spend $50+. #### How do you attach an umbrella to a backpack hands-free? The most reliable method is two loops of elastic cord on your shoulder strap, spaced about 6 inches apart, secured with cordlocks. Slide the umbrella handle through both loops and tighten. Several brands sell hands-free kits (Six Moon Designs, ZPacks) that work the same way with more polish. The sternum strap method tucking the handle underneath it works in a pinch but digs into your shoulder and wobbles constantly. #### What size hiking umbrella do I need? 37 to 38 inches diameter covers one person including shoulders. Anything smaller and your pack and arms get wet. Anything bigger becomes impractical in trees or wind. If you’re buying for two people to share in the rain, 40+ inches exists but you’ll fight it in any breeze. #### Can you use a hiking umbrella in wind? Not reliably above about 15–20mph. Carbon fiber frames handle gusts better than aluminum or fiberglass, but even the sturdiest hiking umbrella becomes difficult and exhausting to manage in sustained wind. Above treeline, in mountain passes, or on coastal trails leave the umbrella packed and use a rain jacket instead. Read More Below: - [Best Waterproof Rain Jackets for Women](https://momgoescamping.com/best-waterproof-womens-rain-jackets/) - [Best Sun Gloves for Hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/best-sun-gloves/) - [Ultralight Backpacking Tips](https://momgoescamping.com/ultralight-backpacking-tips/) --- ###### Image credits: “[Dwreck hiking with Mori’s sun umbrella](https://www.flickr.com/photos/rasudduth/3577618064/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Rebecca Sudduth](https://www.flickr.com/people/rasudduth/), “[Railroad grade](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nordique/4651052762/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [nordique](https://www.flickr.com/people/nordique/), “[proper walking](https://www.flickr.com/photos/umnak/6273928381/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [Umnak](https://www.flickr.com/people/umnak/), “[2016–Phil and Yuna hike on Squak Mounta](https://www.flickr.com/photos/venditti_min_min-venditti/30778390250/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [LittleRoamingChief](https://www.flickr.com/people/venditti_min_min-venditti/), “[Me and the Umbrella](https://www.flickr.com/photos/daveynin/26601504206/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [daveynin](https://www.flickr.com/people/daveynin/), “[Un domingo de lluvia](https://www.flickr.com/photos/pauloetxeberria/33567312524/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [Paulo Etxeberria](https://www.flickr.com/people/pauloetxeberria/) ###### Resources: <https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28850147/>, <https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28114650/>, <https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamadermatology/fullarticle/1670412> ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [I Finally Bought a Real Backpacking Stove. Here’s What I Think of the Primus.](https://momgoescamping.com/primus-gas-stove/) **Published:** August 8, 2016 **Author:** Diane **Content:** For the past few years, I’ve been using a cheap gas stove for camping and backpacking.  The actual stove costs just 900 dinars ($7.50) at my local market.  It uses refill puncture-style gas cartridges and these cost less than a dollar.  Yes, the cheap gas stove is big and bulky, but it goes to show that you don’t need any fancy expensive gear to go camping! Read more below: - [Backpacking Supermarket Foods](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-supermarket-foods/) - [How to Cook Over a Campfire](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-cook-over-a-campfire/) But then, on a recent camping trip, my cheap gas stove started leaking.  It was only a 1-night camping trip so it wasn’t a big deal. Luckily the fuel didn’t stink up my backpack nor did it result in some crazy accident. So, despite my insistence on the fact that you don’t need expensive gear, I figured it was time to upgrade to a better camp stove. I went into my local mountaineering shop to see what they have.  The only option was the[ “Primus Express Spider.”](https://amzn.to/4vPY4Mp) ![On the left is the Primus stove. On the right is my old stove.](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/cheap-stove-vs-primus-stove-1024x739.jpg "cheap stove vs primus stove - Mom Goes Camping")On the left is the Primus stove On the right is my old stove                                       **Want gourmet meals on the trail?** My dehydrator recipes ebook has 50+ calorie-dense backpacking recipes — just add hot water. **[                                                             Get it here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck)** ## First Up: Cost of the Primus Stove When I took a look at the price tag of the Primus stove, I only winced a little.  It costs about $50 – or about 1/8 of an average salary in Serbia.  Considering that you can buy a gas stove at the local market for less than $8, it seemed excessive to shell out that much money for a camping stove. But I go camping with just me and my daughter.  I don’t have a car (or know how to drive) and have to carry everything on my back.  The Primus folds up nicely.  It was really worth it for me to spend extra for a camping stove that would free up space in my bag.  Now maybe I can bring an extra pair of panties or socks and be slightly less stinky on the way back. 😉 You only have to buy camping gear once, so it is usually worth it to pay for quality gear if you are going camping frequently.  However, what did make me cringe was the cost of the fuel canisters. *The Primus fuel costs about $7 for 230 grams.* *Compare this to $0.80 for puncture-style gas canisters.* Even when you factor in the shorter boiling time with the Primus fuel, it is still a LOT more expensive than using puncture-style gas canisters. I walked out of the store without buying anything.  But I kept thinking how nice it would be to shave some weight from my backpack and have a bit more space.  So I went back to the store the next day and bought the Primus and a large gas canister. More space in my pack is a luxury that I was willing to pay for. ## Second Problem: The Screw-Top Gas Canisters Other than the cost of the Primus gas stove, my main issue is that it uses space screw-top gas canisters. As it is now, I usually plan my backpacking trips so we spend 3-5 days camping at one spot.  Then we move on to another camping spot.  On the way there, we pass through civilization. This gives me an opportunity to buy a new gas canister so I don’t have to carry reserves with me. ![On the left is a Primus screw-on gas canister. On the right is a cheap puncture-style gas canister.](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/gas-canister-types.jpg "gas canister types - Mom Goes Camping")On the left is a Primus screw on gas canister On the right is a cheap puncture style gas canister I’ve never had a problem finding puncture gas canisters. *A tiny store on a mountaintop in Albania?  Yep, they had them.* *The general store in a small Bulgarian town? They also had puncture gas canisters.* But I have NEVER once seen screw-top gas canisters anywhere except specialty stores. The guy at the mountaineering store assured me that I could find screw-on gas canisters all over the place.  I am pretty sure he works on a commission. ### So, the solutions to this gas cartridge issue is to: 1. Carry reserve screw-top gas canisters with me (which defeats the space-saving benefit of using the Primus stove) OR 2. Only use the Primus stove for shorter camping trips where I won’t need to refuel OR 3. Have a backup cooking method in case I run out of gas for the Primus and can’t find anywhere to get a new screw-on gas canister. A tiny alcohol stove or solid fuel tabs would be good as a backup and would take up less space than a spare gas canister. ## Is the Primus Stove Worth It? I’ve now used the Primus stove on two short camping trips. The first trip was 5 days long and the second trip was 2 days long.  Here’s what I think of the Primus camping stove after using it. ### I Love the Super- Fast Boiling Time I friggin’ love how fast it boils water!  I can make my morning coffee in just about 30 seconds!!! Of course, bear in mind that I got used to using a cheap gas stove which takes about 5 minutes to boil water just for coffee.  It was a nearly revolutionary experience for me to realize I could get my dose of caffeine so quickly. The downside is that I drank a lot more coffee than normally during these camping trips. 😉 ![Made breakfast with the Primus stove. It was a love faster than with my old cheap gas stove.](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/IMG_4518-1024x683.jpg "IMG_4518 - Mom Goes Camping")Made breakfast with the Primus stove It was a love faster than with my old cheap gas stove ### Gas Canister Life I bought the 450 gram gas canister for the Primus.  It hasn’t run out yet.  When I give the canister a gently shake, I can hear gas splashing around.  It sounds like it is more than half full.  Not bad for 7 day’s worth of cooking for 2-4 people (we went with friends on one trip). By comparison, I had to replace my puncture-style gas cartridges about every 4-5 days. However, those gas canisters contain less gas.  So, it is hard to compare which option really has a longer fuel life. ### Cooking Surface One annoying thing about the Primus stove is that the stove top is really wobbly.  It also seems like it isn’t 100% level.  I have to be really careful about where I set up the stove and am worried that my pot will topple over while I’m cooking.  This wasn’t an issue with my cheap gas stove.  But, of course, that stove was also a lot bigger. ## The Bottom Line? Despite the high cost of the fuel canisters, I’m going to keep on using the Primus stove for short camping trips.  The extra cost is really worth it for me to get my morning coffee so quickly. For longer camping trips, I’ll have to figure out a backup in case I run out of gas during the trip. I guess now is the time to start experimenting with DIY alcohol stoves. Now I’ll just have to learn how to ask for alcohol – and not the drinking kind – in the language of each country I go backpacking in. 🙂 ## Primus Backpacking Stove FAQ: #### Is the Primus Express Stove good for backpacking? Yes — it’s one of the most reliable and widely used backpacking stoves available. It’s compact, lightweight, boils water fast, and has a piezo igniter so you don’t need a lighter. The main drawbacks are the cost of screw-top fuel canisters and the fact that those canisters are harder to find than puncture-style cartridges outside of outdoor specialty stores. #### What type of fuel does the Primus Express Stove use? Screw-top isobutane-propane canisters. These are the standard thread used by most quality backpacking stoves (MSR, Jetboil, Snow Peak, etc.). They’re widely available in outdoor gear shops in North America and Western Europe but much harder to find in Eastern Europe, rural areas, and developing countries — something to factor in if you’re planning international trips. #### How long does a Primus gas canister last? A 230g canister gives roughly 1–2 hours of burn time at full output, which typically covers 3–5 days of cooking for one or two people. A 450g canister lasts proportionally longer. Cold temperatures reduce efficiency in freezing conditions expect 20–30% shorter burn times. #### How does the Primus Express compare to a cheap puncture-style stove? The Primus is significantly more compact and lighter, and boils water much faster. The cheap puncture-style stoves are heavier and bulkier but use cartridges that cost under a dollar and are available in tiny stores across Eastern Europe, Africa, and Asia. For international backpacking where resupply is uncertain, puncture stoves have a real advantage. #### Can you simmer with the Primus Express Stove? Yes, better than most canister stoves at this price point. The flame control valve gives a reasonably wide range from full boil to low simmer. It’s not as precise as high-end stoves with remote canisters, but works well enough for anything beyond very delicate cooking. I’d love your input on this!  What type of stove do you use for backpacking? What’s your plan for if you run out of fuel? ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [Best Hiking Backpacks for Short, Petite Women (Torso Length Under 15")](https://momgoescamping.com/best-hiking-backpacks-petite-women/) **Published:** March 3, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I’m a petite woman who is barely above 5 feet tall and my torso length is just 14 inches. This makes it incredibly difficult for me to find backpacks which fit me.  It’s even harder to find UL or large-capacity backpacks for short women. After a lot of research and talking to other petite female backpackers, I’ve managed to compile a list of hiking packs for petite women. All of these have torso lengths of 15 inches or less. ## Comparison Table \[table id=89 /\] ## Quick Picks: - Best Overall: [Inoxto Lightweight](https://amzn.to/4fGgedG)– it is comfortable and a good balance between sturdiness and weight. - Best Ultralight Pack: [Osprey Kite 48 –](https://amzn.to/4bKUQmc) Fantastic bag for lightweight camping. - Best Large Pack: [IGOLumon 60L –](https://amzn.to/4fAJGmB) This is a great larger capacity bag that fits petite women well and it’s UNDER $50. **\*Important:** The XS size of backpacks usually have a smaller capacity than the one listed in their name.  For example, the Osprey Lumina 60 only has a capacity of 54L in the XS size. ## My Top Picks I’m not going to go over every single short/XS women’s backpacking pack, but here are some of my top picks based on the features they have. ### Inoxto Lightweight. There are four versions of this women’s pack: 50 AG LT, 50 AG, 65 AG LT and 65 AG.  All come in XS/S sizes with a torso length adjustable down to 13.5 inches. The thing I really like is that there are multiple side compression straps. These allow you to cinch up your pack so it sits close to your body.  The fit is better and you won’t have as much wobbling around like with some packs. **Best For: All around great pack with tons of features** - **Capacity:** 62L - **Weight:** 4 lbs. 7 oz. - **Torso:** 13.5-17 inches - **Waist:** 26-50 inches - **8 exterior pockets** - **Ventilated back mesh panel** - **Aluminum frame** - **Main fabric: 210-denier  recycled nylon; 500-denier recycled nylon** - **Lifetime warranty** - **Get it here at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/44PHm4V)** --- ### [Osprey Aura 65 ](https://amzn.to/4x5xaky) **Best For: Ultralight backpacking** - **Capacity: 65**L - **Weight:** 1lb 12.8oz - **Torso:** 15-17 inches - **Waist:** 24-45 inches - **Max Load:** 25lbs - **Ventilated back mesh panel** - **6065 aluminum hoop stay** - **Adjustable sternum strap** - **Main fabric:** 30D Cordura® Silnylon Ripstop - **Lifetime warranty** - [**Get it here**](https://amzn.to/3PEIznt) ![Osprey Lumina 60 back view](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/osprey-lumina-60-back.jpg "osprey lumina 60 back - Mom Goes Camping")At under 2lbs, the Osprey Aura is one of the lightest weight packs specifically for women available.  As I talk about in this post about [ultralight backpacking tips](https://momgoescamping.com/ultralight-backpacking-tips/), you might not actually want an ultralight backpack.  They aren’t designed to carry a lot of gear.  The lack of frame means weight isn’t distributed as well down to your hips. As expected with UL backpacks, the pack is missing a lot of standard features.  It doesn’t have much padding, so comfort isn’t the best. However, there are four pockets including a zippered lid where you can stash items and compression straps for securing items to the pack.  It’s hydration pack compatible so you don’t have to worry about the backpack not having water bottle pockets. The shoulder straps are J-shaped, so this might not be the best pack if you have larger breasts.  The mesh back panel does give your bootie a bit of room though.  The aluminum stay can also be bent to fit your contour, which is a big plus for curvy women. [**Get it here**](https://amzn.to/4x5xaky) --- ### Gregory Deva 70 XS ![gregory deva 70](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/gregory-deva-70-worn.jpg "gregory deva 70 worn - Mom Goes Camping") **Best For: Comfortably carrying heavy loads, especially on long treks** - **Capacity:** 56L - **Weight:** 4lbs 7.7oz - **Torso:** 14-16 inches - **Waist:** 26-46 inches - **Max Load:** up to 50lbs - **Response A3 suspension system** - **Adjustable shoulder, hip and sternum strap** - **S-shaped shoulder straps** - **9 exterior pockets** - **Removable daypack** - **Aluminum frame** - **Rain cover included** - **Main fabric:** 210-denier Honeycomb CryptoRip nylon - **Get it or [here at Amazon](https://amzn.to/2VG8jFy)** Gregory is one of the backpack manufacturers which actually makes women-specific packs.  Yes, lots of brands say their packs are for women, but they are actually just shorter versions of the men’s packs. Here are some of the women-specific features on Gregory packs: - S-shaped shoulder straps to accommodate bust - Shorter torso - Hip belt angled to fit a woman’s steeper hips ![gregory deva 70](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/gregory-deva-70-271x300.jpg "gregory deva 70 - Mom Goes Camping")While Gregory makes a lot of women’s packs, this is my favorite.  At about 4 1/2 lbs. it is a bit on the heavy side, but the suspension system makes it feel like you are carrying less weight than you really are. The system, called Response A3 (Automatic Angle Adjust), causes the shoulder straps and hip belt to pivot.  As you move, the pack will adjust to your torso angle.  Everything about the suspension system is adjustable: shoulder harness, lumbar area, and hip belt.  You can get the perfect fit regardless of your body type. As for organization, the Deva has 9 exterior pockets.  Three of these are in the lid, three on the front of the pack, two in the hip belt, and one on each side of the pack.  You can access gear from a top pocket or a large U-shaped front panel pocket. The water bottle pocket is a bit weird, especially since it isn’t symmetrical and you thus must carry your bottle on one side (not ideal for left-handed people like me).  But the slant is actually pretty cool since it makes the bottle more accessible. As 70L, the Deva is large enough for all of your gear, including a bear canister.  The max carry load is 50lbs, so enough for even long thru-hikes. ![gregory deva 70 bottle pocket](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/gregory-deva-70-bottle-pocket-300x271.jpg "gregory deva 70 bottle pocket - Mom Goes Camping") ![Gregory Deva 70 back view](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/gregory-deva-70-back-256x300.jpg "gregory deva 70 back - Mom Goes Camping") **Get it or [here at Amazon](https://amzn.to/2VG8jFy)** --- ### Osprey Renn 65 [![osprey renn 50 women's pack](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/osprey-renn-50.jpg "osprey renn 50 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/osprey-renn-50.jpg) **Best For:** Short women who want an affordable large-capacity pack, even if it means sacrificing some features - **Capacity:** 65L - **Weight:** 3lbs 7oz - **Torso:** Adjustable 14-19 inches - **Waist:** 25-50 inches - **S-shaped shoulder straps** - **5 pockets** - **Ventilated mesh back panel** - **LightWire peripheral hoop frame** - **Rain cover included** - **Main fabric:** 600-denier polyester - **Get it or [here at Amazon](https://amzn.to/3ct2ocY)** One of the problems with large-capacity women’s backpacks is they tend to be very tall. For us short women, that means the pack ends up extending above our heads.  This puts the center of gravity up higher and throws us off balance.  The Osprey Renn is one of the few packs which doesn’t do this. Compared to other packs this size, the Renn is actually pretty wide. The width means the center of gravity ends up being much lower, so you won’t feel like the pack is pulling you backwards. If you are a petite woman and regularly haul very large loads, the Renn is a good solution. As for comfort, the Renn does a decent job.  The suspended mesh back provides lumbar support and keeps you from getting drenched in sweat. The torso can be adjusted to pre-set lengths, which means you can try out a few to see which is most comfortable.  Unfortunately, the hip belt padding might not hit the right spot if you have larger hips.  The shoulder straps might also end up squeezing your bust if you have a very large chest. Considering this is a large pack meant to carry lots of heavy gear, I was surprised at how few organizational features the Renn 65 has. Yes, there are lots of pockets including hip belt pockets, a lid pocket, and two side pockets (which also have horizontal access).  However, there isn’t a back stash pocket.  Nor are there many loops or attachment points for gear.  Osprey likely left these off so they could keep the weight and price of the pack down.  For some women, these tradeoffs will be worth it.  Others should consider a more feature-rich pack like the Osprey Lumina or Gregory Deva. [![osprey renn 50 women's pack back](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/osprey-renn-back-straps-237x300.jpg "osprey renn back straps - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/best-hiking-backpacks-petite-women/osprey-renn-back-straps/) [![osprey renn 50 women's pack back panel](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/osprey-renn-50-back-300x300.jpg "osprey renn 50 back - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/best-hiking-backpacks-petite-women/osprey-renn-50-back/) **Get it or [here at Amazon](https://amzn.to/3ct2ocY)** ---                                                             **Heading out soon?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup. **[                                                              Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** ## Tips for Buying a Hiking Pack for Petite Women Here are some backpack buying tips specifically for short, petite women. ### Keep Center of Balance Low Women’s backpacks are usually narrower than men’s backpacks to account for our slimmer shoulders.  This makes the packs more comfortable for us.  However, it also means women’s packs can end up tall and skinny.  For short women, the top of the pack might end up high above the head, causing it to be top-heavy and hard to balance. Ideally you keep your gear minimal so you don’t have to get a huge pack that goes above your head.  If you are unable to do this, then it might be better to choose a wider pack, like the .  Or, make sure your pack has lots of loops and straps so you can attach gear to the outside instead of having to extend the lid. ### Don’t Rely On Adjustable Torso Length Alone Adjustable torso length is a great feature to have.  It allows to you get a near-perfect length.  However, don’t rely on adjustable torso too much – especially if the torso can be adjusted by many inches.  Here’s why. Let’s say a pack has an adjustable torso length of 14-22 inches.  When you put the torso at the shortest setting, the shoulder straps are further down on the pack.  This means the top of the pack ends up very high, possibly over your head.  It’s better to find a pack with a torso length which matches yours or can be adjusted by a small amount to perfect the fit. ### Weigh Gear before Buying a Pack A backpacker shouldn’t carry more than 20% of their body weight.  For petite women, this can be a very hard goal.  I’m only 110lbs, so I’d need to get my pack weight – including water and food – to 22lbs or under. Before you buy a backpacking pack, I suggest you lay out all of your gear and weight it.  If it is totaling more than 20% of your bodyweight, then consider whether there is any gear you don’t need or whether it makes sense to buy a lighter version of certain gear.  Once you’ve done this, you’ll be better able to choose a pack suitable to what you really need to carry. **Also read:** - [How to Buy Your First Backpack for Outdoor Backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-buy-your-first-backpack/) - [Can You Use a Regular Backpack for Hiking?](https://momgoescamping.com/can-you-use-regular-backpack-hiking/) - [How](https://momgoescamping.com/cheap-ultralight-backpacking-gear/)[ t](https://momgoescamping.com/cheap-ultralight-backpacking-gear/)[o Go Ultralight without](https://momgoescamping.com/cheap-ultralight-backpacking-gear/)[ Sp](https://momgoescamping.com/cheap-ultralight-backpacking-gear/)[ending](https://momgoescamping.com/cheap-ultralight-backpacking-gear/)[  Fortune.](https://momgoescamping.com/cheap-ultralight-backpacking-gear/) ### Lightweight Packs Aren’t Always the Best Choice In an effort to get your base weight down, you might be tempted to get an ultralight backpack. However, this is often a bad idea.  UL backpacks aren’t as comfortable nor are they as good at transferring load to your hips.  As a petite woman, this load transfer is very important! It’s better to have a pack which weighs 1lb more but makes your overall load feel 10lbs lighter. ### Look At Return Policies Buying a hiking pack is all about getting the fit right.  Even if you go into a store, you won’t be able to really feel how comfortable a pack is until you’ve tried it weighted down.  Here’s what you need to do: 1. Check the return policy before you buy the pack. REI generally has good return policies on unused gear.  Amazon return policies can vary depending on the seller. 2. Once the pack arrives at home, load it with 20+lbs of weight. 3. Take a walk around your neighborhood with the pack on. 4. Does the pack still feel comfortable? If not, return the pack within the return period! ### Consider the Youth Department A lot of youth backpacking gear is just as good as the adult’s gear, but it usually costs a fraction of the price.  Since I’m so small, a lot of my hiking boots, rain pants, and other gear comes from the youth boys section. This method doesn’t always work well with backpacks.  Youth backpacks don’t have S-shaped shoulder straps to accommodate breasts nor do they have hip belts designed for a woman’s curvier figure.  However, if you are a slim, less-curvy petite woman, you might find lots of youth packs which fit you well. ## Hiking Backpacks for Petite Women FAQ: #### What torso length is considered petite for a backpack? Generally under 15 inches, though most brands start their XS sizing at 13.5 to 14 inches. Measure from the C7 vertebra (the bony bump at the base of your neck) straight down your spine to the top of your hip bones. Do this before shopping  a single inch off can make the difference between a pack that fits and one that destroys your shoulders. #### Can a petite woman use a regular women’s backpack? Sometimes, if it has a wide enough torso adjustment range. The problem is that even “short” settings on an adjustable pack can still position the hip belt too low and the shoulder straps too far forward. If you’re under 5’2″ with a torso under 15 inches, look specifically for XS sizes or packs that advertise a 13 to 14 inch minimum torso length. #### Should petite women use youth backpacks? It depends on your build. Youth packs are designed for shorter torsos and often fit petite women well in terms of length and they’re usually cheaper. The drawback is that youth packs don’t have S-shaped shoulder straps for a bust, and the hip belts aren’t cut for women’s hips. If you’re slim and less curvy, a youth pack can work great. If you have a more pronounced bust or hips, look for a women’s XS. #### How much should a petite woman’s pack weigh fully loaded? Aim for no more than 20% of your body weight. At 110 lbs, that’s 22 lbs maximum including water and food. This is a challenging target for petite backpackers and the main reason ultralight gear is worth considering at smaller body sizes every pound saved matters more when your total budget is 22 lbs, not 35. #### Is the Gregory Deva still available? Gregory discontinued the Deva line it’s been replaced by the Maven and Kalmia lines, which carry forward the same women-specific fit features (S-shaped straps, angled hip belt, adjustable torso). Both are in the comparison table above and are worth considering as the current equivalents. **Are you a small women? What hiking pack do you use?  Let us know in the comments section below.** ###### Image credit: “[On the edge to paradise](https://www.flickr.com/photos/svenbreitkopf/28803160591/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [sven\_breitkopf](https://www.flickr.com/people/svenbreitkopf/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** backpack, pack, women --- ### [Sunburn on Hands? Best Sun Gloves for Hiking & Cycling](https://momgoescamping.com/best-sun-gloves/) **Published:** July 10, 2019 **Author:** Diane **Content:** The sun can be your worst enemy when doing certain outdoor activities – like hiking at high altitudes or cycling in summertime. Obviously, you take precautions like wearing sunscreen, a brimmed hat, and a long-sleeved UV sun shirt.  But one places that often gets overlooked – and very burnt – are the hands. **There is a simple solution for sunburn on the hands: Wear sun gloves when hiking, cycling or other activities where your hands will be exposed.** ## Sun Clothing vs. Sunscreen Sunscreen definitely has its benefits, but it isn’t always the smart choice for outdoor activities.  For starters, it makes you feel all greasy.  Even if you only apply it to the back of your hands, it still somehow makes your palms feel greasy, which in turn can screw up your grip on hiking poles or your bike.  And who wants to carry around a bunch of sunscreen anyway?? Imagine how much you’d need to carry for a long bike tour or backpacking trip! On top of that, sunscreen isn’t even effective for very long.  According to [this report](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/sunscreen-mistakes-tips_n_3377817), our skin uses up the active ingredients in sunscreen in about 2 hours. If you are sweating, then you’ll need to reapply sooner.  I really don’t want to bother applying sunscreen every 1 hour. Yes, sun clothing will make you a bit hotter.  But it is much more reliable at protecting you from sunburn.  So, get a good UV protection sun shirt and long pants to wear with your sun gloves.   REIN has a lot of good options for sun clothing which you can see . ## DIY Sun Glove Hack: If you don’t feel like buying sun gloves, you can buy a UV sun shirt which is slightly too big.  You want the sleeves to go over your hands.  Then you can just cut thumb holes into the sleeves.  Put the hole a bit further back than you normally would for a thumb hole. This should keep the shirt over your hands so it stays covered. Alternatively,  you could take some light-colored liner gloves and cut off the fingers at the first joint (leaving the thumb if you don’t want your thumb getting burned while hiking with poles).  Wool and silk offer the best UV protection. You might have to hem them to keep them from unraveling.   If you are going to go to all that trouble though, you might as well buy some sun gloves. ## What to Look for in Sun Gloves We use our hands a lot.  The right pair of sun gloves will give you UV protection but still enough dexterity to perform tasks. On the flip side, the wrong pair of sun gloves will annoy the hell out of you.  You might find it difficult to do tasks like take photographs or tie knots.  Or, you might find them so cumbersome and sweaty that you simply take them off. If you aren’t wearing the sun gloves, they obviously aren’t going to provide you any UV protection.  So choose your sun gloves carefully! Pay particular attention to these features: ### Full Finger vs. Fingerless Fingers usually don’t get sun burned (at least as badly as the back of the hand).  So, you might not need fingers on your sun gloves if you are cycling, canoeing, or hiking without poles. If you are hiking *with* *poles* though (which you should – here’s [why](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-poles-pros-cons/)), there’s a good chance that your *thumb* will get burned.  In this case, you’ll want sun gloves with fingers.  You could even cut off all the fingers except the thumb so it is protected but your fingers are still free. ### Touchscreen Use? Another thing to consider with fingers on sun gloves is whether you will be using a touchscreen.  Many sun gloves with full fingers are not touchscreen compatible (the Coolibar gloves are touchscreen compatible though). ### Weight vs. Durability Ideally, the UV sun gloves should be lightweight.  Light equals breathable, and also means less weight on your pack. But lightweight also means the sun gloves will be thinner and wear out sooner.  This isn’t really an issue if you are hiking without poles.  For activities where your palms get used a lot (hiking with poles, canoeing, cycling, etc.), the palm part of the glove will wear out quickly.  Don’t expect even the best sun gloves to last more than 1 to 2 seasons. ### Palm Type Most good sun gloves have some sort of grip on the palm.  This is really useful, especially when your gloves end up wet from sweat and you still need to grasp hiking poles or your bike handles. In general, the silicon or rubber-dot types of grip are best for hiking.  For cycling, you might need a thicker, tougher grip. Leather grips are really bulky, but they will hold up longer than other sun gloves. On the flip side, a lot of people (myself included) prefer sun gloves without any palm at all.  This gives you more ventilation and allows you to wipe the sweat off your hand (my hands get insanely sweaty, even when the rest of my body isn’t sweaty).  However, this comes at the expense of grip. ### Angler/Fishing Gloves? Many of the UV gloves you see sold are meant for angler fishing. These types of sun gloves *can* work for other outdoor sports, but they generally aren’t the best option. Angler gloves usually have reinforced palms with leather grip (though some feature open palms).  Some of the fingers might have reinforced padding too.  A lot of hikers and cyclists also say that the padding makes them uncomfortable and bulky to wear. Another problem is that angler gloves usually don’t have thumb protection.  So, if you try to use them for hiking with poles (when your hand is held in supinated position), your thumb will be exposed to the sun and get burned. ### Sizing Before buying sun gloves, you will need to measure your hand circumference.  Note that each brand has slightly different glove sizing.  Check the product pages to see their sizing info. ### Color The color of the sun gloves isn’t just an issue of style.  The color can affect the UV protection.  In general, white and black sun gloves offer the highest UV protection.  White are obviously going to be cooler than black gloves, but they show dirt/sweat stains really quickly. ## Best Sun Gloves All of these best sun gloves were specifically chosen for hiking and cycling, though they could work for canoeing, paddling, and a range of other outdoor sports too. ### Coolibar UV Gloves ![Coolibar UV sun gloves](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/coolibar-gloves.jpg "coolibar gloves - Mom Goes Camping") Among hikers, Coolibar UV protection gloves are by far the favorite option.   They are made of a lightweight blend of polyester and spandex.  They are pretty stretchy and easy to pull on.  It will give you a good fit. There is a silicon grip on the palm area.  It is thin but does the job.  A nice thing about the gloves are that they are touchscreen compatible, which is useful if you are taking photos with your smartphone while outdoors. #### **Features:** - **Full finger and fingerless options** - **UPF 50+** - **4-way stretch** - **Cooltect wicking technology** - **Silicone grip** - **Touchscreen compatible** - **6 color options** - **5 sizes** - **Get the [fingerless gloves here](https://amzn.to/2XEI2EU) and [full-finger gloves here](https://amzn.to/2LNyght)** --- ### Outdoor Research Chroma Sun Gloves ![Outdoor Research Chroma full finger sun gloves](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/OR-full-chroma-sun-glove.png "OR full chroma sun glove - Mom Goes Camping") These are another favorite sun glove among hikers and has good enough grip for cycling too.  The synthetic leather palm gives really good grip and means the gloves will hold up better than most others.  The palm material has perforations in it, which means that it is still cool. They are made from a material called ActiveIce.  It has xylitol crystals in it which are supposed to cool you as moisture wicks away.  So, the more you sweat, the cooler these gloves will be. There is only 9% spandex in these gloves though and the palm is thick, so don’t count on them stretching too much.  Make sure you measure your hands carefully before ordering. \*These aren’t Touchscreen compatible. The [fingerless version is here](https://amzn.to/3QX2781). #### **Features:** - **Full finger** - **UPF 50+** - **ActiveIce wicking material** - **Perforated synthetic leather grip** - **Not touchscreen compatible** - **Glove clip** - **Gray color** - **4 sizes** - **Available at: [Amazon](https://amzn.to/2LKLWKb)** --- ### Outdoor Research ActiveIce Fingerless Sun Gloves ![outdoor research activeice fingerless sun gloves](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/outdoor-research-activeice.jpg "outdoor research activeice - Mom Goes Camping") These sun gloves are also made from ActiveIce material, so they will cool you as they wick moisture away. The difference between the OR Chroma gloves and these Spectrum gloves is in the palm. There is just a bit of silicone grip on the palms. This is good if you prioritize coolness and comfort over grip. The material is very thin and lightweight.  It will be very comfortable to wear, but don’t expect it to last as long as a sun glove with reinforced palms. #### **Features:** - **Fingerless** - **UPF 50+** - **ActiveIce wicking material** - **Silicone dot grip on palms** - **Touchscreen compatible** - **5 colors** - **4 sizes** - **Available at: [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3VkwTKV)** --- ### Glacier Islamorada Sun Gloves ![Glacier Islamorada Sun Gloves](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Glacier-Islamorada-Sun-Gloves.jpg "Glacier Islamorada Sun Gloves - Mom Goes Camping") These sun gloves are designed for fishing but are popular with backpackers.  Compared to other fishing sun gloves, they are lightweight and breathe pretty well (though not nearly as breathable as the Coolibar or Outdoor Research sun gloves). The palm is reinforced in some key areas with synthetic leather, which helps them hold up against strenuous use.  Since the palm is only reinforced in some areas, you still get good dexterity and breathability. Your hands will get hot hiking in these sun gloves. However, once you start sweating and the gloves get a bit wet, they will cool down quickly. Make sure you get a good fit with these.  While the description does say “4-way stretch”, they can still be a bit difficult to put on if you size them too small. #### **Features:** - **¾ finger** - **UPF 50+** - **Quick dry material** - **Synthetic leather partial palm** - **Touchscreen compatible** - **Gray and camo** - **5 sizes** - **Available at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/2XBRwkx)** --- ## Tip: Avoid Velcro! Almost all sun gloves are made from a material which sticks to Velcro.  You’ll slowly ruin your sun gloves if you get them stuck to Velcro.  So be cautious when opening any Velcro straps. Read more about packing must haves below: - [Hiking Packing List: 12 Things to Always Have on the Trail](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-packing-list/) - [How Much Water to Bring Hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/how-much-water-to-bring-hiking/) ## Sun Gloves FAQ: #### Do sun gloves actually work? Yes — UPF 50+ fabric blocks over 98% of UV radiation, which is significantly more reliable than sunscreen on hands, especially during sweaty outdoor activities where sunscreen rubs off within an hour or two. For high-altitude hiking, cycling, or any activity where your hands are constantly exposed, sun gloves are more practical than reapplying sunscreen every hour. #### What UPF rating do I need in sun gloves? UPF 50+ is the standard for serious sun protection and what all the gloves reviewed here offer. UPF 50 means only 1/50th of UV radiation passes through the fabric. Anything below UPF 30 offers marginal protection and isn’t worth buying for outdoor use. #### Should I get fingerless or full-finger sun gloves for hiking? Fingerless if you hike without poles your fingers rarely burn as badly as the back of your hand. Full-finger or at minimum thumb-covered if you hike with poles, because the supinated grip position exposes your thumb directly to the sun. A lot of hikers buy fingerless gloves and DIY a thumb hole extension from a sleeve. #### Can I use fishing sun gloves for hiking? You can, but they’re not ideal. Fishing gloves tend to have reinforced leather palms that are bulky and hot for hiking, and most don’t protect the thumb which is exactly what gets burned when you’re gripping poles. Stick with gloves designed for hiking or general outdoor use. #### How long do sun gloves last? One to two seasons of regular use is realistic. The back-of-hand fabric holds up well, but palms wear through faster from friction against poles, bike handles, or paddle grips. If grip is important to your activity, look for reinforced synthetic leather palms they’ll outlast thin silicone-dot grips significantly. --- Resources: <https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/49808/> <https://www.omicsonline.org/open-access/uv-protection-properties-of-cotton-wool-silk-and-nylon-fabrics-dyedwith-red-onion-peel-madder-and-chamomile-extracts-2165-8064-1000266.php?aid=78317> Image credit: “[IMG\_0170](https://www.flickr.com/photos/jr98664/5898938080/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [jr⁹⁸⁶⁶⁴](https://www.flickr.com/people/jr98664/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking **Tags:** hiking, sunburn --- ### [Thule Urban Glide 2.0 vs. BOB Revolution Flex 3.0](https://momgoescamping.com/thule-urban-glide-2-0-vs-bob-revolution-flex-3-0/) **Published:** May 5, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** The Thule Urban Glide 2.0 and BOB Revolution Flex 3.0 are considered amongst the best jogging strollers for off-roading and tough terrain. If you can’t decide between the two strollers, here’s an honest breakdown of how they compare and which stroller is better for which purposes. ## Quick Verdict: The main differences between the Thule Urban Glide 2.0 and BOB Revolution Flex 3.0 are that the Thule has a hand brake and a more sleek appearance but costs more.  The BOB stroller has a better suspension system but is much bulkier. - **Choose the Thule Urban Glide 2.0 if**: you want a more attractive stroller, run on hilly terrain so need the hand break, want one-handed folding, don’t mind that the seat doesn’t go fully upright, and have a higher budget. See it [at Amazon](https://amzn.to/2NU9flO). - **Choose the BOB Revolution Flex 3.0 if:** you go on some serious terrain, want a stroller with fully-upright seating, would rather the fabric folds inwards, and have a lower budget.  See it [at Amazon](https://amzn.to/3WOtYuP) or [at REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DBOB%2Ballterrain%26pagesize%3D90). **Also see my other picks for [best off-road strollers](https://momgoescamping.com/all-terrain-strollers-hiking/).** ## Videos ## Comparison Table \[table id=12 /\] ## Suspension The Thule Urban Glide 2.0 and BOB Revolution Flex 3.0 both have amazing suspension systems which make it possible to go off-roading with your baby.  The suspension systems absorb shock so your baby doesn’t suffer jolts.  Likewise, less shock goes into the handlebar so your wrists won’t be killing you after strolling on bumpy terrain. Of the two, **the BOB Revolution Flex 3.0 suspension system is better than the Thule Urban Glide 2.0.**  The BOB suspension is on all three wheels (and not just the back wheels like the Thule).  You can also adjust the suspension system with the BOB stroller. For people who mostly go on smooth roads or trails, the difference won’t matter too much.  But, if you want to go hiking off-road with your baby, then the Revolution Flex 3.0 is the better choice. ## Handling As for handling, both strollers also have adjustable front wheel tracking.  This prevents the stroller from veering to one side. You won’t really notice a difference in handling when walking.  But, **the Thule Urban Glide 2.0 is better for running at high speeds** than the BOB Revolution Flex 3.0. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/running-with-thule.jpg "running with thule - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/running-with-thule.jpg)*The Thule Urban Glide 20 handles amazingly at high speeds* ## Brakes The back foot brakes on the Thule Urban Glide 2.0 and Revolution Flex 3.0 are very similar.  Both are flip-flop friendly and easy to engage/disengage.   But here’s a major difference between the strollers: **The Thule Urban Glide 2.0 has a hand break.  The Revolution Flex 3.0 does not.** Do you really need a hand break? Maybe. A hand break is incredibly useful when going downhill because it allows you to slow down the stroller.  If you aren’t going on hills often, then the hand break won’t be that useful. **Note:** The Thule hand brake is in the middle of the handlebar. If you want to push the stroller with one hand, having the hand brake there could be annoying since it is slightly wider and doesn’t have foam cushioning like the rest of the handlebar.  It probably won’t matter to most people though. ## Handlebar Of the two strollers, I like the BOB Revolution Flex 3.0 better.  It has a larger range of positions (34.5 to 48 inches) and goes in 9 positions.  The Thule Urban Glide 2.0 has a position range of 35.5 to 44 inches.  This is still adequate for short and tall people alike, but I like having those extra few inches – they especially come in handy when going uphill or downhill. Note the Thule Urban Glide 2.0 has a curved handlebar. I personally don’t like this but some people might find it more ergonomic. ## Dimensions and Storage The Thule Urban Glide 2.0 is shorter but a bit wider than the BOB Revolution Flex 3.0. This makes the Thule easier to maneuver but harder to get through tight spaces.  Always check door and elevator pass-throughs before buying a stroller! The Thule is slightly more compact when folded with the wheels on.  However, the BOB stroller is more compact with the wheels off. Because of the way the Thule stroller folds, there isn’t much of a size difference when folded with the wheels on or off.  **If you don’t want to bother taking the wheels off, then the Thule is the better choice.**                                                                   **Heading out with kids?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup. **[                                                                       Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** ### Removing the Wheels It is incredibly easy to remove the back wheels from either stroller.  They both have a quick-release feature.  The Thule doesn’t have quick release on the front wheel, but you don’t actually need to remove it to put it in storage (the size difference is negligible). You can see in the video below how easy it is to remove the BOB stroller wheels.  Of course, they are nice and clean in the video — which will never be the case in real life. 🙂 ## Folding One of the major differences between the Thule Urban Glide 2.0 and BOB Revolution Flex 3.0 is how they fold. - **The Urban Glide has one-handed folding, but folds with the fabric *outwards*.** - **The Revolution stroller has two-handed folding, but folds with the fabric *inwards*.** This is a really difficult decision.  One handed folding is really useful if you need to hold your baby in one hand while folding up the stroller.  But, if your car trunk looks anything like mine (or you went jogging on muddy terrain), the stroller fabric will get messy if it folds outwards! Personally, **I prefer the BOB’s two-handed folding with fabric inwards.**  As great as one-handed folding is, jogging strollers are really heavy.  You are probably going to need two hands to lift the stroller or put it away, so you will have to put your baby down anyway. **Below are videos showing how each of the strollers folds.** ### Self-Standing? Unfortunately, neither strollers are truly self-standing.  But the Urban Glide 2.0 *kind of* can stand up if you put the handlebar in the middle position.  The BOB Revolution Flex 3.0 definitely won’t stand.  Note that the newer BOB Alterrain strollers are self-standing.  Read: [BOB Alterrain vs. BOB Revolution Flex 3.0](https://momgoescamping.com/bob-revolution-flex-3-0-vs-bob-alterrain-strollers/). ## Comfort for Your Child Compared to other jogging strollers, both the BOB and Thule strollers give a very comfortable ride.  They both have one-handed recline that goes nearly flat and large canopies with UV 50 protection. However, **the BOB Revolution Flex 3.0 beats the Thule Urban Glide 2.0 in terms of comfort.**  It has a wider seat with more cushioning.  It also has more ventilation and the canopy can go down further – which means more wind, rain and sun protection. Most importantly, **the BOB Revolution Flex 3.0 has fully-upright seating.  The Thule does not.**  Not only is this more comfortable for older kids, but upright seating means you can use your stroller for feedings and simply hanging out. ## Car Seat Compatibility Both strollers have car seat adapters (sold separately) so you can use them from birth.  The Thule Urban Glide 2.0 has a universal adapter so can be used with virtually any car seat.  It also has specific adapters for Chicco and Nuna/Maxi-Cosi/Cybex car seats. Unfortunately, the BOB Revolution Flex 3.0 can’t be used with all car seats.  It is compatible with: BOB Gear, Britax, Chicco, Graco, Peg Perego, Cybex, Maxi-Cosi, and Nuna. ## Age Range Both the Thule Urban Glide 2.0 and BOB Revolution Flex 3.0 can be used from birth with a car seat adapter (sold separately).  The Thule also has a bassinet option. You’ll be able to use the BOB seat from about 8 weeks for walking and from about 8 months for off-road/jogging.  You will need to wait until your baby is 6-8 months to use the Thule seat. As for upper age limit, **you’ll be able to use the BOB Revolution Flex 3.0 a bit longer.** It has a higher weight limit of 75lbs and a wider seat. Note that the weight limit is for the entire stroller, including any gear you’ve got in the basket.  The weight limit on the Thule Urban Glide 2.0 is also 75lbs, but the *child* weight limit is only 49lbs. ## Appearance and Design Of the two strollers, the Thule Urban Glide 2.0 has a sleeker, more attractive design.  I personally like it much more than the BOB Revolution Flex 3.0.  It looks like it belongs on hiking trails whereas the Thule is stylish enough to fit in city settings.  The Thule is also smaller than the BOB, so it handles better in tight spaces. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/thule-black.jpg "thule black - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/thule-black.jpg)The Thule Urban Glide 20 stroller above has a sleek design[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/bob-black.jpg "bob black - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/bob-black.jpg)The newer BOB Revolution Flex 30 has a black frame which looks better than the previous silver one but its still isnt as attractive as the Thule ## Extra Features **Pockets:** The BOB has 6 pockets: 1 zippered handlebar pocket, 1 zippered pocket behind the seat, two mesh pockets behind the seat and 2 pockets in the seat (snack pockets). The Thule only has 3 pockets and they aren’t zippered: a mesh pocket behind the seat plus two mesh pockets in the seat (snack pockets). ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/bob-storage-pockets.jpg "bob storage pockets - Mom Goes Camping")So much storage on the BOB stroller **Basket:** Both strollers have large storage baskets, but the Thule basket has a cover. It closes with Velcro. **Peek-a-boo window:** Both strollers have magnetic peek-a-boo windows.  The window is larger on the BOB stroller though and you can see through it better.  The Thule window has mesh over it which blocks the view. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/bob-peek-a-boo.jpg "bob peek a boo - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/bob-peek-a-boo.jpg)The BOB peek a boo window is clear for a better view **Safety Features:** The BOB has more reflective trim than the Thule, especially if you get the “Lunar” design.  It practically glows when light hits it!  Both strollers have wrist straps. The BOB wrist strap is adjustable though. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/bob-lunar.jpg "bob lunar - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/bob-lunar.jpg)The Lunar version of the BOB stroller has an insane amount of reflective accent on it **Accessories:** There are more accessories available for the Thule Urban Glide 2.0, including a bassinet, snack tray, organizer and bumper bar.  The BOB also has some accessories, but not nearly as many. I should note that the accessories for both strollers are EXPENSIVE.  This is probably a situation where you’ll want to get generic brand universal accessories! ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/thule-bassinet.jpg "thule bassinet - Mom Goes Camping")The Thule has a bassinet accessory something most joggers do not have ## Price The Thule Urban Glide 2.0 is significantly more expensive than the BOB Revolution Flex 3.0.  Basically, you are paying a premium price for a stroller which looks better and has a hand brake.  BOB also has a newer stroller called the Alterrain Pro which has a hand brake.  It costs about the same as the Urban Glide 2.0 and also has one-hand folding but a much better suspension system and upright seating. [Read my review of the Alterrain Pro here. ](https://momgoescamping.com/bob-alterrain-pro-stroller-review/) Prices change often throughout the season.  Check out the latest prices for the  Thule here[at Amazon](https://amzn.to/2NU9flO) or and for the BOB stroller here [at Amazon](https://amzn.to/3WOtYuP) or [at REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DBOB%2Ballterrain%26pagesize%3D90). ## **The bottom line?** **Get the BOB Revolution Flex 3.0 if you:** - Need a more affordable stroller for off-roading - Would rather the fabric folds inwards, even if it means two-handed folding - Want the seat to go fully upright - Have a big car trunk or don’t mind taking the wheels off to put in storage **Get the Thule Urban Glide 2.0 if you:** - Prefer a sleeker, more attractive stroller - Need a hand brake - Have a higher budget - Don’t mind that the seat doesn’t go fully upright - Want one-handed folding, even if this means the fabric will fold outwards ## Thule Urban Glide 2.0 vs BOB Revolution Flex 3.0 FAQ: #### Which is better for running — the Thule or BOB? The Thule Urban Glide 2.0 handles better at high speeds and is the better pure running stroller. The BOB Revolution Flex 3.0 is better for serious off-road terrain thanks to its all-wheel suspension, but the Thule is more stable and responsive when you’re actually running fast. #### Does the Thule Urban Glide 2.0 have a hand brake? Yes — it’s one of the main reasons to choose it over the BOB Revolution Flex 3.0, which doesn’t have one. The hand brake is especially useful on hills. Note it sits in the middle of the handlebar, which can be slightly awkward for one-handed pushing. #### Can both strollers be used from birth? Both require a car seat adapter (sold separately) for newborns. The BOB seat is approved for walking from around 8 weeks and jogging from 8 months. The Thule seat requires waiting until 6–8 months and also has a bassinet accessory option for earlier use. #### Which stroller fits in a smaller car? Folded with wheels on, the Thule is more compact. Folded with wheels off, the BOB is more compact. If you don’t want to bother removing wheels every time, the Thule is the easier choice. Always measure your car trunk before buying either these are large strollers. #### Is the BOB Revolution Flex 3.0 worth it over the cheaper alternatives? For serious off-road use hiking trails, rough terrain, anything beyond smooth paths yes. The all-wheel suspension, 75lb child weight limit, and fully upright seating are hard to match at any price. If you’re mostly on smooth roads and want something more stylish, the Thule is worth the premium. If you want all-terrain performance at a lower price, the Flex 3.0 is the better value. **Find the Thule Urban Glide 2.0 [at Amazon.](https://amzn.to/2NU9flO) And find the BOB Revolution Flex 3.0 here [at Amazon](https://amzn.to/3WOtYuP) or [at REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DBOB%2Ballterrain%26pagesize%3D90).** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** strollers --- ### [Complete Guide to Camping while on Your Period](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-period/) **Published:** September 11, 2019 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I’m very lucky in that I have a flexible work schedule and a very regular period.  I almost always try to schedule my camping trips for times when I know that I won’t be menstruating. However, I can’t always schedule life around my period – which means I’ve had to figure out how to deal with periods while camping or backpacking and no toilets around. Yes, camping on your period can be very annoying, messy, and result in some waste disposal issues. I’m going to go over everything you need to know about periods and camping, including things like whether you can put tampons into outhouses and how to use a menstrual cup outdoors. --- ## Quick Answer: A menstrual cup is a great option for camping and backpacking since there is nothing to pack out, but there is a learning curve! If you want to use tampons or pads when backpacking, you’ll need to pack them out.  Never bury them because animals dig them up, eat them and can get seriously sick. If you want to use pads or tampons camping, check with the campsite about how to dispose of them.  Regular pads and tampons usually can’t be disposed of in outhouses. You may need to get special biodegradable ones, or will have to dispose of them in the camp trashcans. --- ## Table of Contents - [**Camp Toilets and Your Period**](#toilets) - [**Flush Toilets**](#flush) - [**Outhouses** ](#outhouses) - [**No Toilet At All** ](#notoilet) - [**Cleanwaste WAG bags**](#wag) - [**Menstrual Cups Camping**](#menstrualcups) - [**The Good and Bad**](#goodbadcups) - [**Menstrual Cup Kit for Camping**](#kit) - [**Instructions for Using while Camping** ](#instructions) - [**Cleaning Your Menstrual Cup** ](#cleaning) - [**Tampons and Pads Camping** ](#tampons) - [**The Good and Bad**](#goodbad2) - [**Disposing of Used Pads and Tampons in Nature**](#disposing) - [**Packing Out Tampons and Pads**](#packingout) - [**In Bear Country** ](#bear) - [**List of Biodegradable Feminine Hygiene Items for Camping** ](#products) \[sta\_anchor id=”toilets” /\] ## Know the Toilet Options while Camping on Your Period! It is really important that you consider what type of toilet you will have access to while camping.  This will affect how you deal with your period blood and hygiene products. \[sta\_anchor id=”flush” /\] ### Option 1: Flush Toilets ![Nice campground flush toilet](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/nice-campground-flush-toilet.jpg "nice campground flush toilet - Mom Goes Camping") Lots of campgrounds have flush toilets.  If this is the case, then you can deal with your period just like you would at home. Just be warned that **tampons shouldn’t ever be flushed in camp toilets.** You not even supposed to flush them at home because they clog sewer systems.  Campgrounds probably don’t have the best sewer systems, so it is even more important that you put used tampons in the trash can and not flush them. \*Many campground bath stalls don’t have trash cans in them! That’s because they don’t want animals going into the bathrooms to get to the trash. Be prepared to put your used tampons or pads in a baggie and carry it to the trash can!!! \*\*Remember also that you might be on day hikes.  So, even if there is a flush toilet at the campground, you might have to use an outhouse or dig a cat hole.                                                 **Want gourmet meals on the trail?** My dehydrator recipes ebook has 50+ calorie-dense backpacking recipes — just add hot water. **[                                                                     Get it here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck)** \[sta\_anchor id=”outhouses” /\] ### Option 2: Outhouses ![nice outhouses](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/nice-outhouses-640x425.jpg "nice outhouses - Mom Goes Camping") You might think that you can just toss your pads, tampons and baby wipes into an outhouse.  But this is always not the case! **Under no circumstances should you put tampons, pads or wipes in a composting outhouse or toilet!** The main reason is because tampons, pads and baby wipes contain plastic in them (yes, tampons and baby wipes have plastic fibers!!!). The plastic won’t break down and will create microplastics in the ground.  I know a lot of women throw their tampons in composting outhouses or toilets, but you really shouldn’t do this! One solution is to get 100% natural, biodegradable tampons.  There are also some natural baby wipes and plastic-free pads that could go into an outhouse ([see list of products at the end of the post](#products)).  But still check with the campground or Parks Service to see if it is okay to put these products in the outhouses. ![pit toilet in national park](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/toilet-pit-sign.jpg "toilet pit sign - Mom Goes Camping") \[sta\_anchor id=”notoilet” /\] ### Option 3: No Toilet (Cat Hole) ![trowel for digging cat hole](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/trowel-for-digging-cat-hole.jpg "trowel for digging cat hole - Mom Goes Camping") When there is no toilet around, you’ll have to dig a cat hole for poo or menstrual blood.  Cat holes should be 6-8 inches deep and at least 200 steps from a water source. In this case, menstrual cups will make your life much easier. You just dig a cat hole and empty the blood into the hole.  Cover the hole and you are done. If you are using tampons, you will have to pack them out. **Tampons should never, ever be buried! The same goes with pads.** Why? Aside from the fact that tampons and pads take a *really* long time to degrade (even the “natural” kind), the tampons and pads smell.  **Animals will dig up tampons and pads and eat them.** As one camp counselor [said](https://permies.com/t/45060/Feminine-hygiene-products-composting-toilets) about all the girls who improperly dispose of period products outdoors, *you don’t want to see what the animal poop around here looks like!* #### What to Do with Bloody Toilet Paper? Under the rules of [Leave No Trace](https://lnt.org/sites/default/files/Considerations_for_Women.pdf), you are supposed to pack out used toilet paper (I actually use a [homemade pee cloth](https://momgoescamping.com/diy-hiking-pee-cloth/) instead of toilet paper).  The reason for doing this is that even TP takes a long time to decompose. However, there are some situations where it’s okay to bury toilet paper. **Pack out TP if:** - The rules say you must. - It isn’t likely to decompose quickly, such as sandy or arid areas. - You are above treeline and/or in a fragile environment. - The TP isn’t biodegradable or has perfumes/additives. - It’s a heavily used area. **You can make packing out TP less gross by…** - Use a doubled zip lock baggie - Line the baggie with aluminum foil so you don’t have to look at the contents. - Or cover the outer baggie with duct tape. - Put a teaspoon of powdered bleach into the TP baggie before you leave. It will help with the smell. #### What about Wet Wipes? DO NOT BURY WET WIPES. Wet wipes take even longer to degrade than toilet paper. Most of them have plastics in them which will not break down at all.  They leave behind micro plastics in the ground. Wet wipes also often have chemicals and perfumes in them.  Wet wipes aren’t even supposed to go in outhouses. Don’t believe me? One backpacker did a [test to see how long it takes TP vs. biodegradable wipes vs. normal wipes to degrade in a cat hole](https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/backyard-tp-degradation-experiment/).  After 6 months, the TP and biodegradable wipes were gone but the normal wipe was almost perfectly preserved. Ideally, **you should pack out all wet wipes**. If you don’t want to carry them around, you can burn them over a campfire.  It will need to be a fairly big or long-lasting campfire to dry out the wipes though. There are some brands of eco-friendly and compostable wet wipes (like the ones by [Eco by Naty](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NXGQ7Q4/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00NXGQ7Q4&linkId=403e2cd104d8f14dd59a54b115695c71), [Jackson Reece](https://amzn.to/2L9K0ug), and [Surviveware](https://amzn.to/2ZCO7mg)). **Biodegradable wipes \*can\* be buried them with your period waste in a cat hole.  But it’s still not recommended.**  Just use toilet paper or pack out the wet wipes and throw them away later. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/eco-by-naty.jpg "eco by naty - Mom Goes Camping")*These compostable wipes by Eco By Naty can be buried but its still better to pack them out Get them [here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NXGQ7Q4/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00NXGQ7Q4&linkId=403e2cd104d8f14dd59a54b115695c71)* \*Flushable does not mean the wipes can be buried.  They must be labeled as COMPOSTABLE. They also should be unscented so you don’t attract animals. \*\*Alternatively, consider making your own wet wipes.  This can be done by wetting paper towels with a solution of water, coconut oil, eco-friendly baby wash, and tea tree oil.  See the instructions [here](https://www.livinlightly.com/homemade-biodegradable-baby-wipes/). \[sta\_anchor id=”wag” /\] ### Option 4: Cleanwaste WAG Bags ![cleanwaste wag bag](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/cleanwaste-wag-bag.jpg "cleanwaste wag bag - Mom Goes Camping") Cleanwaste bags (formerly called WAG bags) are really cool.  They are bags with a special gelling agent in them.  When you go to the bathroom in them, the gel renders your stool inert and odorless.  You then seal the bag and can throw it away in the regular trash. In places with very fragile ecosystems, like at Mt. Whitney, you will be required to use a WAG bag. WAG bags can also be great for dealing with your period.  Instead of digging a cat hole, you just put your tampons into the WAG bag or dump your menstrual cup into it.  Toilet paper and wipes also can go in the WAG bag. Because there are no odors, you don’t have to put the used WAG bag in a bear canister.  They aren’t supposed to leak, but you still might want to keep it in a trash bag at the bottom or outside of your pack anyway. The only issue with WAG bags is that the cost can add up. Depending on how many bags you buy at once, expect to pay anywhere from $1 to $3 per bag.  There is enough gelling powder in each bag for 3-4 uses, so you don’t have to seal them right away.  You can also change menstrual products while you poo so it all goes in the bag at the same time. But still plan on using at least 2 WAG bags per day. \*You can get a [12 pack of Cleanwaste bags here](https://amzn.to/2ZsVCfG).  Or [get a 50 pack here](https://amzn.to/2Zuwwgp). \[sta\_anchor id=”menstrualcups” /\] ## Using a Menstrual Cup while Camping ![Diva cup for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/diva-cup.jpg "diva cup - Mom Goes Camping") I have been using a menstrual cup for nearly 20 years now (yes, that makes me one of the “early adapters”).  Since starting with a menstrual cup, I haven’t looked back.  I really can’t understand why someone would use tampons.  I even have bought a lot of my outdoorsy and traveler friends menstrual cups as presents.  They are all really happy with them. 😀 Menstrual cups have a lot of benefits, like being eco-friendly and saving you oodles of money on tampons.  They also don’t leak like tampons do (at least I always had problems with tampons leaking but never with my [Diva Cup](https://amzn.to/2NQqy7F)). | ### Choose a Menstrual Cup If: - You already have some experience with them - You won’t have access to a flush toilet or trash cans (such as when backpacking, hiking, or wild camping) - You don’t want to pack out used tampons and pads | |---| \[sta\_anchor id=”goodbadcups” /\] ### The Good and Bad of Menstrual Cups in the Great Outdoors #### Good: No Waste to Deal with I go camping in places where there aren’t any bathrooms or even outhouses.  If I were to use tampons, I’d have to pack them out.  As I talked about in the tampons section, you absolutely can’t bury tampons or pads in nature. All I need to do is dig a cat hole for going to the bathroom and dump the blood into the hole.  The cup gets rinsed off and reinserted. #### Good: Only Need to Be Emptied Two Times Per Day This is probably the best benefit of choosing a menstrual cup while camping.  Since they don’t fill up quickly like tampons or pads, you can go a really long time before you need to empty the cup.  So, you can wait until it’s a good moment to empty – like when you have access to a proper toilet or have extra water for washing your hands. On my heavy flow days, I do need to empty the cup 3x or it will start to leak. On my light days though, I can even go the entire day without emptying the cup. #### Good: Don’t Have to Lug Around Tampons If you are car camping, then this isn’t really a big deal.  But I carry everything in my pack.  Space is at a premium.  I’m happy that I only have to carry a small cup that weighs practically nothing.  If I ever go on a long thru-hike, I’d be saving tons of room in my pack. #### Bad: The Learning Curve As much as I love my menstrual cup (as much as you can love a hygiene item, anyway), I wouldn’t recommend trying one for the first time while on a camping or backpacking trip. Menstrual cups do have a bit of a learning curve.  You don’t want to be figuring out how to use one while you are squatting over a cat hole!  Ideally, you should use a menstrual cup for at least once cycle before taking it on the road. #### Bad: Yes, It Can Be Messy I’m not going to lie: menstrual cups can be very messy.  You will get blood on your hands.  You will find yourself in awkward situations – like squatting over a toilet while you hold a bloody cup in one hand and try to tear TP with the other hand! Even as someone who has used menstrual cups for 16+ years, I still had some issues the first time I went camping on my period. #### Bad: Dirty Hands when Emptying Cups Probably the most difficult part of using a menstrual cup while camping is that you should have clean hands when you change it.  In campgrounds with flush toilets, this isn’t an issue. Just wash your hands before entering the bathroom stall. With outhouses, it can be pretty gross. You have to touch the outhouse door to enter.  There isn’t anywhere inside the outhouse to lay out your kit. \[sta\_anchor id=”kit” /\] ### Menstrual Kit for Backpacking I like to keep all my hygiene items together in a baggie so they will be ready when I need to use them. If you are going to be using an outhouse, it really helps if you have a way to hang the kit around your neck (like using a drawstring bag). You don’t want to lay it down on gross outhouse floors! The kit should contain: - **Bag for carrying all the items** - **Biodegradable soap** - **Antibacterial hand gel** - **Toilet paper** - **Biodegradable baby wipes\*** - **Shovel/trowel** (if you will have to dig a cat hole) - **A bottle of purified water** **How many baby wipes to bring?** You don’t have to use baby wipes, but it’s a lot easier to clean yourself with wipes than TP (especially if you get blood on your hands). I use approximately 3 wipes per menstrual cup dump.  Once you get the hang of it, you might only need 1 or 2 wipes per dump.  You can also use a combo of TP and baby wipes. My period lasts 6 days.  I dump the cup 2x per day. So, that means I bring 36 wipes per menstrual cycle. \[sta\_anchor id=”instructions” /\] ### Instructions for Using a Menstrual Cup Outdoors It can be a bit tricky the first few times you try using a menstrual cup outdoors.  Think blood and dirt all over your fingers as you wonder how the hell to get the cup clean and reinserted! Once you get the hang of it, you’ll probably find it easier than dealing with tampons. \*These instructions are for it you don’t have a toilet. If you are using a menstrual cup in an outhouse, the instructions are mostly the same.  You will just have to be creative with a way to set up your supplies inside the outhouse.  You’ll definitely want to sanitize your hands after touching the outhouse door! #### 1. Get all Your Hygiene Supplies Ready Seriously, have everything ready.  I will even pre-tear TP and remove some wet wipes so they can be grabbed easily.  You don’t want to be caught with a bloody cup in your hand and not have supplies ready! #### 2. Dig a Cat Hole It should be as deep as your hand and at least 200 steps away from any water source.  You also want to make sure your cat hole is 200 steps away from camp. #### 3. Wash/Sanitize Your Hands I usually do this by pouring a bit of water over my hands to get the dirt off and then washing with soap.  A bit more water removes the soap.  Then I put a glob of antibacterial hand gel on my hands. #### 4. Remove the Menstrual Cup I always remove the cup first and dump the contents. Then I will pee/poo.  I make sure to only touch the menstrual cup with one hand.  On heavy flow days, my hand usually doe get some blood on it. #### 5. Wipe Either bury or pack out the TP.  Baby wipes should be packed out if they aren’t biodegradable. #### 6. Clean the Cup Using your other hand (the one not holding the menstrual cup), pour a bit of water in/on the cup to get blood off.  I’ll do this by slightly loosening the lid on my water bottle so only a trickle of water comes out.  Loosen the lid BEFORE you get started! Never use antibacterial hand gel to clean a menstrual cup.  The alcohol in it can degrade the silicone that the cup is made from. Instead of rinsing it with water, you can wipe the menstrual cup with a baby wipe. #### 7. Reinsert the Cup It often takes two hands to insert a menstrual cup (because you need to fold it into shape).  If you are worried that the hand you wiped with got some poo on it, put a bit of antibacterial gel on your hand first.  You don’t want to insert a menstrual cup with poo hands! #### 8. Clean Hands I will use another baby wipe to clean any blood off my hands.  It gets thrown into the cat hole (or in the pack-out bag). Now you can fill the cat hole and wash your hands with soap and water.  You are done! \[sta\_anchor id=”cleaning” /\] ### Cleaning Your Menstrual Cup while Camping At home, I will wash my menstrual cup with soap and water each time I empty it.  At camp, I just rinse it with purified water or maybe wipe it with a baby wipe. This should really be adequate to keep your menstrual cup clean and sanitary.  Once my period is over, I do properly clean the menstrual cup with soap and water.  Then I boil it for 5 minutes to kill any bacteria.  I also boil it again before using it on my next period. Yes, I do use my camp cooking pot for boiling the menstrual cup.  Does it seem gross to use the same pot for my menstrual cup as I use for food?  Sure – but it has been boiled long enough to kill any bacteria, so I’m not concerned.  I get that there still might be a yuck factor though.  So, either wait until you get back home to boil the menstrual cup or bring a separate small pot just for boiling your cup. \[sta\_anchor id=”tampons” /\] ## Tampons and Pads while Camping Since switching to a menstrual cup, I have only used tampons or pads on very rare occasions (like when recovering from a C-section). So, I don’t have any personal experience using these while camping on my period.  However, I can still see the good/bad in them. \[sta\_anchor id=”goodbad2″ /\] ### The Good and Bad #### Good: Easy to Use If you don’t have experience using a menstrual cup, a camping trip is not the time to get started!  Stick to what you know.  You can always get a menstrual cup later and try it out.  Once you get the hang of it, you can bring it on future camping trips. #### Good: No Worries about Dirty Hands If you are using an outhouse or digging a cat hole, your hands will get dirty.  You really don’t want to insert a menstrual cup with dirty hands.  This isn’t an issue if you use pads or tampons with applicators. #### Bad: You Probably Need to Pack Them Out When you’ve got a trash can nearby, using pads and tampons while camping is pretty easy.  But what about all those times where there is no trash can? Tampons and pads can’t go in flush toilets or outhouses.  They definitely can’t be buried in cat holes.  So, you MUST bring a baggie for storing your used hygiene items until they can be thrown away or burned. #### Bad: Take a Long Time to Burn Instead of lugging a baggie of used tampons around with you on the trail, you can burn them.  However, it takes a long time to completely burn tampons – even on large, roaring campfires. #### Bad: May Attract Wild Animals Your used pads and tampons might attract wild animals.  If you can’t throw them away or burn them right away, you’ll have to store them in a bear canister (with your food, gross!), in a bear bag, or your car. Even *unused* pads and tampons might attract wild animals.  That’s because most feminine products have all sorts of perfumes added to them. So, even these have to be stored in a way that’s safe from animals.  Definitely don’t keep them in your tent or you might wake up to an unwelcome intruder. 😮 #### Bad: Take Up Space in Pack On longer backpacking trips, pads and tampons can take up much-needed space in your pack.  You can remove the applicators to save space, but then you have to insert tampons with your dirty backpacker hands. Since tampons/pads expand when used, they will take up even more space in your pack once you’ve used them. #### Bad: Eco-Friendly Options are Pricier There are now plenty of options for eco-friendly tampons that can go in outhouses.  Likewise, there are even some pads without plastic that you might be able to put in outhouses.  However, they definitely cost more than regular tampons and pads. Oh, and even normal tampons that are odor-free tend to cost more. Sucks that we have to pay to keep perfumes and chemicals out of privates! \*See the [list of recommended feminine products for camping](#products) at the end of the post. \[sta\_anchor id=”disposing” /\] ### How to Dispose of Tampons and Pads while Camping Please don’t be an inconsiderate camper and throw away pads or tampons where you shouldn’t!  I know it is gross to carry around a baggie of used tampons or pads, but it is necessary.  They take a very long time to decompose – even the “biodegradable” kind. When camping at a campground, call ahead to ask what their policy is for disposing of feminine items. **Ask the Campground:** - Can you flush biodegradable tampons? - If there is an outhouse, can you put biodegradable tampons in it? - Are there trash cans in the bathroom stalls, or do you need to carry used items to an outside trash can? - Is it okay to keep scented tampons or pads in your car? If not (or you don’t have a car), are storage lockers provided at camp for scented items? \[sta\_anchor id=”packingout” /\] ### Packing Out Pads and Tampons If you will be required to pack out pads or tampons, you will need to prepare a “pack out bag.” 1. **Get two quart-sized zip baggies.** Make sure the baggies are made from a thicker material. Preferably they have slide zips and NOT the “press to close” types of zips.  If you are using pads, you’ll need even bigger baggies, or will need to make two pack-out bags. 2. **Put one baggie inside the other.** 3. **Cover the outer bag with duct tape (optional):** Alternatively, you can line the inner bag with foil. This makes it so you can’t see the contents of the bag. 4. **Put 1 tsp.** **of powdered bleach into the inner baggie:** Borax also works. After going to the bathroom and tending to your period, just put used tampons or pads into the baggie.  Wet wipes should also go into the baggie.  Likewise, you should pack out your TP in many situations, like in fragile environments or highly-used areas. #### How to Carry/Store the Pack Out Bag? Used TP, wet wipes, pads, and tampons should be treated like any other scented item.  That means it needs to be stored in a way that is safe from wild animals.  You definitely don’t want animals getting into your tent because they smelled your used tampons! If you have a car, then you can just keep the Pack Out Bag in there.  Or maybe the campground has special lockers where you can keep scented items. When backpacking though, you’ll need to put scented items – including your gross Pack Out Bag – in a bear canister or hang them in a bear bag. **Do this even if you aren’t in bear country! There are plenty of other wild animals that will be attracted to scented items.** This creates an annoying problem: Do you really want to store your Pack Out Bag with your food?  One option is to hang two bear bags (if you are even in an area that permits bear bags). I am terrible at hanging bear bags.  My throwing arm sucks, and it takes me forever to get the rope over an appropriately-high branch.  If I had to pack out items and hang them, I’d use the [Counterbalance method](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-hang-a-bear-bag/) so I would only need to throw rope one time. Or, just suck it up and keep the baggie in your bear canister. \[sta\_anchor id=”bears” /\] ### Pads and Tampons in Bear Country According to the [National Parks Service](https://www.nps.gov/yell/learn/nature/grizzlybear-menstrual-odor.htm), being on your period doesn’t attract bears to women.  However, they also say that women should “***use internal tampons instead of external pads***.”  That makes sense – using pads is definitely going to make you smell much more of blood than tampons or a menstrual cup. They don’t mention anything about hiking with a stinky Pack Out Bag full of used tampons.  If the blood on pads might attract bears, wouldn’t the smell of blood emitting from your pack also attract bears?  I would suggest getting an odor-proof bag for keeping your stinky waste in while hiking. The NPS also warns that you should not use heavily scented pads or tampons.  The scents might attract bears. **The bottom line?** It’s probably best to use a menstrual cup in bear country.  If you use tampons, make sure you are storing them as you would any other scented item at camp: in an approved bear canister or in a bear bag. As an extra precaution, put them in an odor-proof bag while you hike. ![odor proof bags for bears](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/odor-proof-bags-opsak.jpg "odor proof bags opsak - Mom Goes Camping")*These odor proof bags by Loksak are popular with backpackers Put food scented items and used hygiene items in them to keep animals away [Get them here](https://amzn.to/2Pntgna)* \[sta\_anchor id=”products” /\] ## Biodegradable Feminine Hygiene Items for Camping Here’s an overview of tampons, pads, and wet wipes that are biodegradable and scent-free. ### Menstrual Cups There are a lot of different menstrual cups to choose from.  Over the past 16 years, I have tried two brands: [Diva Cup](https://amzn.to/2ZzH6Ty) and [Dutchess Cup.](https://amzn.to/2L8Jn45)  The Dutchess was cheaper, but the silicone started to lose its shape after a year and began to leak.  I switched back to a Diva Cup.  I’ve never had leak problems with Diva Cup, even after using the same cup for 5 years. I haven’t personally tried it but [Lunette Cup](https://amzn.to/2HB6RfV) is very popular. ### Tampons and Pads All of these tampons and pads are scent-free, all-natural, and biodegradable. Again, always check with the campground or Park Service before putting these in an outhouse.  If you have to pack them out, make sure they are stored in a way which is safe from wild animals. **Tampons:** - [NatraCare tampons with cardboard applicator](https://amzn.to/2ZDnOfR) - [Cora tampons without applicator](https://amzn.to/2Lgrz5Z) (or [with plastic applicator](https://amzn.to/2MKZBCj)) - [Veeda tampons without applicator](https://amzn.to/2UidYze) (or [with plastic applicator](https://amzn.to/2MK9rEF)) **Pads:** - [Organyc Plastic-Free Compostable Pads](https://amzn.to/2PnToyw) \*Note that I wouldn’t recommend using reusable cloth pads on a camping trip.  Packing out all those bloody pads would be stinky and attract animals. ### Wet Wipes All these wet wipes can go in composting outhouses. You \*can\* bury them in a cat hole too, but it’s still not recommended. Use toilet paper instead or pack out the used wet wipes to throw away later. - **[Eco by Naty wipes](https://amzn.to/2Lk7TxM)** - [**Honest Company wipes** ](https://amzn.to/2Lk84cq) - **[Jackson Reece wipes](https://amzn.to/2zvwR7Z)** - **[Surviveware wipes](https://amzn.to/2Pn6MCZ)** \*Note that flushable does not mean the wipes are biodegradable.  They must be labeled as COMPOSTABLE. Alternatively, consider making your own wet wipes.  This can be done by wetting paper towels with a solution of water, coconut oil, eco-friendly baby wash, and tea tree oil.  See the instructions [here](https://www.livinlightly.com/homemade-biodegradable-baby-wipes/). **Ladies, any tips about camping on your period? Let us know in the comments section below!** ## Camping on Your Period FAQ: #### What is the best menstrual product for camping and backpacking? A menstrual cup  no waste to pack out, only needs emptying twice a day, and takes up almost no space in your pack. The learning curve is real, so don’t use one camping for the first time; practice at home for at least one cycle first. If you’re not ready for a cup, use scent-free biodegradable tampons and pack them out in a double zip-lock. #### Can you put tampons in a camping outhouse? Usually no most outhouses are composting toilets and even biodegradable tampons contain plastic fibers that won’t break down. Some campgrounds allow 100% natural, plastic-free tampons in their outhouses, but check with the specific campground or park service first. When in doubt, pack them out. #### Do periods attract bears or wildlife? According to the National Parks Service, menstruation doesn’t significantly increase bear attraction. That said, scented pads are a different matter the added fragrance can attract wildlife. Use unscented products, store used items in an odor-proof bag, and treat them like food in bear country: in a bear canister or hung in a bear bag, never in your tent. #### How do you dispose of used tampons and pads when backpacking? Pack them out. Never bury them even biodegradable tampons take a long time to break down, and animals will dig them up. Use a double zip-lock bag lined with foil, add a teaspoon of powdered bleach for odor control, and store it with your scented items (bear canister or bear bag). Alternatively, WAG bags are a clean option that handles all waste including period products. #### How do you clean a menstrual cup while camping? Rinse with purified water after emptying a trickle from a loosened water bottle lid works well. A biodegradable wipe is an alternative if water is scarce. Never use antibacterial hand gel directly on the cup as the alcohol degrades the silicone. Once you’re home, boil it for 5 minutes to sanitize properly before the next use. Read more about camping Hygiene below: - [Camping First Aid Checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-first-aid-checklist/) - [Getting Sick While Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/get-sick-camping/) - [Wild Camping Laws](https://momgoescamping.com/wild-camping-laws-europe/) ## Did you know that I wrote a book? If you aren’t sure what to eat while backpacking, check out my eBook.  It’s got tons of info on how to plan backpacking meals, trail nutrition, and over 50 ultralight recipes that you can make on a dehydrator. [Learn more here](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/). ![backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/backpacking-dehydrator-recipes-ebook.jpg "backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook - Mom Goes Camping") --- ###### Resources: <https://outdoorluxuriez.com/should-you-bury-used-toilet-paper-or-pack-it-out/> <https://cabinlife.com/articles/article/maintaining-the-outhouse> <https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/nov/20/the-eco-guide-to-wet-wipes> <https://thedyrt.com/magazine/gear/wag-bag-camping-waste/> ###### Image credits: “[Ocean Cove, California](https://www.flickr.com/photos/joehoover/5798515591/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [Joe Hoover](https://www.flickr.com/people/joehoover/) [Torben T. Koch](http://www.tribbles.de/) / [Wikimedia Commons](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page) / [CC BY-SA 4.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/) “[Mt Rainier (Sunrise – Burrough’s Peaks –](https://www.flickr.com/photos/rickmccharles/4835727386/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Rick McCharles](https://www.flickr.com/people/rickmccharles/) “[climbing Longs Peak, Rocky Mtn National](https://www.flickr.com/photos/rickmccharles/4881896305/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Rick McCharles](https://www.flickr.com/people/rickmccharles/) “[outhouses](https://www.flickr.com/photos/creamaster/3830360487/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Duncan Creamer](https://www.flickr.com/people/creamaster/) “[Open Outhouse at Boreas Brook Campsite](https://www.flickr.com/photos/andyarthur/7221656832/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [andyarthur](https://www.flickr.com/people/andyarthur/) “[Potty Trowel](https://www.flickr.com/photos/richardmaycr/19566431914/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [azoeart](https://www.flickr.com/people/richardmaycr/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety **Tags:** leave no trace, menstruation, period, trash, waste, women --- ### [Can You Use a Regular Backpack for Hiking?](https://momgoescamping.com/can-you-use-regular-backpack-hiking/) **Published:** April 15, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Hiking has gotten a lot more popular over the past decade.  As a result, there are a lot of “gear snobs” who will insist that you need special gear to hike.  It shouldn’t come as a surprise that many of these “experts” recommending expensive gear are getting paid by the same companies who make that gear. **No, you do not need a special backpack for hiking.**  Any regular backpack will work for day hikes.  However, if you go hiking often or need to carry lots of gear (such as on overnight hiking trips), there are many features of hiking backpacks compared to regular backpacks which might make them worth buying. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/cheap-backpack-used-for-hiking.jpg "cheap backpack used for hiking - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/cheap-backpack-used-for-hiking.jpg)*This cheap backpack from a Target back to school sale worked just fine for full day hikes* ## Hiking Backpack vs. Regular Backpack [![proper hiking backpacks](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/backpacks-for-thru-hike.jpg "backpacks for thru hike - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/backpacks-for-thru-hike.jpg)*Real hiking backpacks like these have features which will make multi day hikes easier and safer* ### Hip Belt The main purpose of a backpack hip belt is to redistribute the weight so it is on your hips instead of on your shoulders.  This feature doesn’t really matter much when you aren’t carrying much weight.  However, if you try to carry a lot of weight in a regular backpack, you’ll end up fatigued very quickly. Some everyday backpacks have thin hip belts. While this does help stabilize the pack on your body, it doesn’t help much with load distribution.  When carry really heavy loads, you’ll need a pack with a thick, wide hip belt. ### Sternum Strap When hiking on uneven terrain, your backpack will shift around.  This isn’t too big of a deal if you don’t have much weight in your pack.  But, if you are carrying heavy gear, the shifting will throw you off balance.  You’ll have to work harder to stay balanced and you’ll get tired out faster.  You are also more likely to fall and get injured. ### Water Bottle Pockets One of the biggest problems I have with using a regular backpack for hiking is that most don’t have water bottle pockets. Every time you want to take a drink, you will have to stop, take off your backpack, unzip it, get out your water, drink and then put it back.   It’s really annoying, which means you might not drink enough water.                                                                **Heading out soon?** **My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup.** **[                                                               Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** ### Hydration Reservoir Compatibility A lot of people prefer to use hydration reservoirs (aka water bladders) when hiking because they make it a lot easier to access your water.  Most hiking backpacks will have a little hole for the reservoir sleeve near the top so the hose is positioned right near your mouth. Yes, you *can* use a hydration reservoir in a normal backpack if you leave the backpack partially unzipped so the hose has room to come out.   But then you run the risk of your backpack unzipping further and losing some gear.  If the backpack has two zippers, a solution is to tie the zippers together around the hose. ### Compression Straps Compression straps are another feature of hiking backpacks which helps with stability. They allow you to adjust the volume of your pack so gear isn’t shifting around inside and throwing you off balance. ### Upper Compartment/Lid Backpacks for multi-day hikes usually have a top lid.  You can keep gear you use often there.  I also keep my first aid kit in the lid so I could access is quickly in an emergency.  Another benefit of the lid is that it allows you to adjust the capacity of the backpack: with the lid full extended upwards, you might be able to get another 5-10 liters. The lid also provides some protection against rain. On the flip side, backpacks with lids are really annoying to use in everyday life. The long straps end up on the ground when you open the pack (not great when in gross public bathrooms!).  The drawstring opening also means it’s also harder to get supplies out than with a regular zipper backpack. [![drawstring top on hiking pack](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/backpack-with-drawstring-lid.jpg "backpack with drawstring lid - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/backpack-with-drawstring-lid.jpg)Backpacks with drawstring lids [this one from REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F168496%2Frei-co-op-beyonder-pack) are great for hiking but really annoying to use in everyday life ### Gear Straps Being able to strap gear to the outside of your backpack has a lot of benefits.  Not only can you carry more stuff – including bulky items like tents and sleeping pads – but you’ll be able to access gear easier. On hikes in bad weather, for example, I will keep my rain jacket strapped to the outside of the pack so I can get it quickly if it starts raining. ## Regular Backpacks which Double as Hiking Packs If you don’t want to buy a separate backpack just for hiking, you’re in luck.  There are now plenty of “regular” backpacks which have the same features as a hiking backpack.  Even my 10 year-old daughter’s cute school bag has a sternum strap and water bottle side pockets. It gets a bit harder to find a schoolbag-type backpack that works for multi-day hikes though.  They simply aren’t large enough and probably don’t have a hip belt.  If it does have a hip belt, it’s probably too narrow to provide any real benefits. ## Regular Backpack for Hiking FAQ: #### Can you use a school backpack for hiking? Yes, for day hikes with a light load. If your school bag has side water bottle pockets and a sternum strap, even better. Where it falls short is carrying heavy loads  without a padded hip belt, all the weight stays on your shoulders and you’ll feel it by mile three. #### How much weight can you carry in a regular backpack hiking? Keep it under 10 pounds in a regular backpack and you’ll be fine for most day hikes. Above that, the lack of a load-transferring hip belt starts to hurt literally. A proper hiking pack becomes worth it once you’re regularly carrying water, food, layers, and safety gear together. #### What features should a backpack have for hiking? The must-haves for anything beyond a short day hike: side water bottle pockets (so you don’t have to stop to drink), a sternum strap (keeps the pack from swaying), and a padded hip belt (for loads over 10 pounds). Compression straps and a hydration sleeve are nice-to-haves. #### Is a 20-liter backpack enough for day hiking? For most day hikes, yes  20 liters fits water, snacks, a first aid kit, rain jacket, and a layer comfortably. Go bigger (25–30L) if you’re adding a camera, extra clothing, or hiking in unpredictable weather where you need more layers. #### Do you need a hiking backpack for overnight trips? Yes. Overnight trips mean carrying a sleeping bag, pad, shelter, food, and clothing  that’s 20–35 pounds minimum. A regular backpack without a proper suspension system and hip belt will destroy your shoulders and back over a full day of hiking with that load. It’s worth getting a proper pack for anything overnight. Read more about backpacks & gear below: - [Best Kids Backpacks for Hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/best-kids-hiking-backpacks/) - [How to Buy Your First Backpack for Outdoor Backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-buy-your-first-backpack/) - [Do You Really Need Hiking Boots?](https://momgoescamping.com/do-you-really-need-hiking-boots/) **Do you use your everyday backpack for hiking? Let us know in the comments below.** --- Image credits: “[Grayback Mountain](https://www.flickr.com/photos/blmoregon/15203482793/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [BLM Oregon & Washington](https://www.flickr.com/people/blmoregon/), “[\#hiking](https://www.flickr.com/photos/130811041@N04/19824324090/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Bautz Adventure](https://www.flickr.com/people/130811041@N04/), “[hiking backpack](https://www.flickr.com/photos/microcline/207756390/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [andrew.petro](https://www.flickr.com/people/microcline/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** backpack --- ### [Dehydrated Carrot Cake Backpacking Breakfast](https://momgoescamping.com/dehydrated-carrot-cake-backpacking/) **Published:** August 29, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I like to experiment with dehydrating random things for backpacking.  A lot of times, they end up being complete fails (lots of things don’t rehydrate well).   But this dehydrated carrot cake was definitely not a fail!  Even my picky kids ate it up for breakfast. ## Caloric Density Even before you dehydrate it, carrot cake is already pretty calorie-dense.  There are usually around 416 calories in 100 grams of carrot cake without icing.  Obviously, this is going to vary depending on the recipe you use.  Recipes with a lot of oil and sugar will obviously have more calories than healthier versions. Once you dehydrate it, the carrot cake ends up being even more calorie-dense.   **My carrot cake ended up losing 30% to 40% of its weight once dried**.  I calculated that it had 160 calories per oz (or nearly 6 calories per gram)! **Also read: [Best Calorie-Dense Healthy Foods for Backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/calorie-dense-healthy-backpacking-foods/)** ## Instructions ## **At Home:** 1. Make or buy carrot cake (without icing). I used [this vegan recipe](https://www.loveandlemons.com/vegan-carrot-cake/).  Note that I used mashed bananas instead of applesauce in the recipe. 2. Cut the carrot cake into cubes. Mine were about 1 inch by 1 inch.  Try to make them equal sizes. 3. Dehydrate until the cubes become hard like croutons. No moisture should come out when you squeeze the cubes. [![dehydrated carrot cake](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/dehydrated-carrot-cake.jpg "dehydrated carrot cake - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/dehydrated-carrot-cake.jpg) **In the Field:** 4. Rehydrate some powdered milk. I like coconut milk. 5. Add the dehydrated carrot cake cubes to the milk. 6. Let it sit for a minute and eat like cereal.  If you let them sit too long, they will eventually turn to mush.  It’s a tasty mush, but I prefer them to retain their texture a bit. 7. You can also munch on the cubes as a snack (they will be crunchy). [![dehydrated carrot cake backpacking on the trail instructions](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/dehydrated-carrot-cake-backpacking-on-the-trail-instructions.jpg "dehydrated carrot cake backpacking on the trail instructions - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/dehydrated-carrot-cake-backpacking-on-the-trail-instructions.jpg) [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/dehydrated-carrot-cake-before-rehydrating.jpg "dehydrated carrot cake before rehydrating - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/dehydrated-carrot-cake-before-rehydrating.jpg)Immediately after adding it to the milk[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/dehydrated-carrot-cake-after-rehydrating.jpg "dehydrated carrot cake after rehydrating - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/dehydrated-carrot-cake-after-rehydrating.jpg)It softens after soaking in the milk                                             **Want gourmet meals on the trail?** My dehydrator recipes ebook has 50+ calorie-dense backpacking recipes — just add hot water. **[                                                                   Get it here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck)** There are also tons of other cakes and baked goods you can dehydrate.  For example, I sometimes dehydrate pancakes to bring backpacking.  I rehydrate them in milk and eat them like cereal. I also heard of one backpacker who dehydrates Costco Coffeecake Muffins.  They come out to around 160 calories/oz. Seriously, experiment with dehydrating and you’ll be amazed at how much better your backpacking meals become. ## Dehydrated Carrot Cake FAQ: #### Can you really dehydrate carrot cake? Yes — and it works better than you’d expect. The key is cutting it into uniform cubes before dehydrating so they dry evenly, and going until they’re fully hard like croutons with no give when you squeeze them. Underdried cake will go mouldy in your pack. #### How long does dehydrated carrot cake last on the trail? Properly dried (no moisture remaining), it should last the length of any normal backpacking trip  several days to a couple of weeks at room temperature in a sealed bag. If you notice any soft spots or off smell before you go, dry it longer. #### Does it rehydrate well? Reasonably well in powdered milk or coconut milk. It softens enough to eat comfortably within a few minutes but doesn’t completely fall apart. Soaking too long turns it to mush — which is still tasty, just different in texture. If you prefer crunch, eat within the first minute of adding it to the milk. #### What kind of carrot cake dehydrates best? Denser, oil-based recipes without cream cheese frosting. Frosting doesn’t dehydrate  it stays sticky and goes rancid. A vegan recipe without dairy tends to dehydrate more cleanly. Avoid recipes with a lot of added moisture from fruit purées; they take much longer to dry and are harder to get fully stable. #### Can I dehydrate other baked goods the same way? Yes. Pancakes, muffins, and dense quick breads all work on the same principle cut into uniform pieces, dehydrate until fully hard, rehydrate in milk on the trail. Coffee cake muffins in particular are popular among backpackers for their high calorie density. Anything with icing, custard, or cream filling won’t work. Btw, if you want more meal ideas, **check out my book: [Gourmet As Heck Dehydrator Backpacking Meals](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck).**[![backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/backpacking-dehydrator-recipes-ebook.jpg "backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/backpacking-dehydrator-recipes-ebook.jpg) [**Get It Here**](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck) Read more about other delicious dehydrated recipes below: - [Cold Soak Backpacking Meals](https://momgoescamping.com/cold-soak-backpacking-meals/) - [Backpacking Supermarket Foods](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-supermarket-foods/) - [Dehydrator Carrot Cookies](https://momgoescamping.com/dehydrator-carrot-cookies/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Food --- ### [Best Kids Backpacks for Hiking and Backpacking (2026)](https://momgoescamping.com/best-kids-hiking-backpacks/) **Published:** February 2, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Once your kids are [ready to go on longer hikes](https://momgoescamping.com/how-far-can-kids-hike/) or overnight trips, you’ll want to get them a good hiking backpack. These range from simple youth packs for day hikes to serious backpacking packs with built-in suspension systems, padded hip belts, and other features that make it easier for even small kids to carry a heavy load comfortably. ## Quick Picks - **Best Hiking Backpack for Little Kids:** [Deuter Kikki 8L](https://www.amazon.com/Deuter-Kikki-Backpack-School-Hiking/dp/B08HT4PYTG?&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=0764e143890048164ad74d835f699a22&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) - **Best Kids Day Hike Backpack**: [REI Tarn 18L](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DTarn%2B18) - **Best Backpacking Pack for Kids:** [Deuter Fox 40L](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074D3HYLH/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B074D3HYLH&linkId=4bdcc7ce84e65b370940f9f37dcb01ac) - **Best Trekking Pack for Teens:** [Gregory Wander 50L](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F4N9CLQ/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07F4N9CLQ&linkId=deb5262996ff4c61dc0989c210265b7d) - **Best External Frame Youth Backpack**: [Kelty Sanitas 34L](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014JQ9DD0/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B014JQ9DD0&linkId=c4fd35fb9db80b601d0178fbcdc10e11) - **Best Lightweight Kids Pack:** [Deuter Climber 22L](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08258YW1D/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08258YW1D&linkId=60acfd66a113f79678d0fa98f86a2f46) ## Best Hiking Backpacks for Kids Here are my picks for best kids hiking packs.  They are organized by size in liters, so first you’ll see backpacks for little kids, youth day hike backpacks and then larger-capacity kids backpacking packs. ### [Deuter Kikki 8L](https://www.amazon.com/Deuter-Kikki-Backpack-School-Hiking/dp/B08HT4PYTG?&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=0764e143890048164ad74d835f699a22&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) ![Deuter Kikki hiking backpack for little kids](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/deuter-kikki-hiking-backpack.jpg "deuter kikki hiking backpack - Mom Goes Camping") **Capacity:** 8 liters **Age range:** 3-5 years old **Best use:** Hiking backpack for little kids #### Review The Deuter Kikki is a great hiking backpack for kids ages 3 to 5 years old.  It is designed like a proper hiking pack with padded straps and a sternum strap to keep the bag in place. The side pockets are large enough to hold most water bottles and the lid does a good job of keeping gear dry in light rain. This backpack is far from perfect.  I wish it had two straps instead of one so I could put my kid’s jacket there (a jacket will still fit but wobbles around a bit). I also wish the sternum straps were adjustable height and that it had an external zippered pocket.  But, it suits its purpose and is cute enough that little kids will want to carry it hiking. The good news is that the drawstring top opens completely wide, so you can easily get books inside.  That makes this suitable as a kindergarten bag, so you will get a lot of use out of it. **Pros:** - Padded straps - Cute design and lots of colors **Cons:** - Torso length not adjustable - No hip belt - Sternum straps don’t adjust height - No zippered external pockets [**Buy It Here**](https://www.amazon.com/Deuter-Kikki-Backpack-School-Hiking/dp/B08HT4PYTG?&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=0764e143890048164ad74d835f699a22&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) --- ### [Deuter Junior 18L](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BB6KK9X/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07BB6KK9X&linkId=271463642322f7d517ef0333b8d2ac60) ![Deuter Junior hiking backpack](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/deuter-junior-hiking-pack.jpg "deuter junior hiking pack - Mom Goes Camping") **Capacity:** 18 liters **Age range:** 5-9 years old **Best use:** Backpacking pack or day hikes #### Review The Deuter Junior is a good backpack for 5 year olds up to a petite 9 years old.   The 18L capacity is large enough to hold a kids sleeping bag, a stuffed animal, some snacks, and water bottles on the side pockets, so it’s good for multi-day backpacking trips.  However, it’s also small enough to use as a day hiking backpack. The pack is comfortable with padded back air channels for ventilation and padded straps.  There is no hip belt though, so be careful that you don’t put too much weight into the pack. I do wish that it had more places to attach or tie down gear.  The water bottle pockets are shallow and bottles easily fall out.  Don’t expect to use this pack for school: binders won’t fit into the drawstring top well.  Keep it for hiking only.  It’s very affordable and you should get many years of use out of it, so it’s a good investment for your kids. **Pros:** - Good ventilation - Affordable - Kid friendly buckles - External pockets **Cons:** - No hip belt - Water bottle pockets aren’t very deep [**Buy It Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BB6KK9X/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07BB6KK9X&linkId=271463642322f7d517ef0333b8d2ac60) --- ### [REI Tarn 18](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DTarn%2B18) ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/REI-tarn-18-youth-backpack.jpg "REI tarn 18 youth backpack - Mom Goes Camping") **Capacity:** 18 liters **Age range:** 7-12 years old **Best use:** Backpacking pack, day hikes or travel #### Review The REI Tarn 18 is the perfect size for a day hike pack for kids. Because it has a zipper instead of a lid, it is also a lot easier to get gear out on hikes.  The Tarn 18 has enough features to be used as a small backpacking pack too.  You can fit a kids sleeping bag and some clothes, plus there are places to attach gear outside the pack. As far as comfort goes, the Tarn 18 has padded straps, an adjustable sternum strap and a thick hip belt for distributing weight.  The torso length is *not* adjustable, so don’t expect to get too much use out of the pack. At 5’1”, I’m very petite. On backpacking trips, my daughter can use this as her pack until we get to base camp.  Then I can wear it as our day hike pack.  Even taller people have said they can wear it comfortably, though the shoulder straps might rub against the neck. Note that REI also makes an almost identical pack called the Tarn 12.  It is good for kids 5-7 years old but I prefer the Deuter Junior over it; the larger size means you’ll get more use out of it.  Plus, the Tarn 12 is really ugly and I know my daughter would complain about that! **Pros:** - Lightweight (17oz) - Lots of exterior pockets - Hip belt and sternum strap - Hydration pack compatible **Cons:** - Torso length is not adjustable - Shoulder straps might rub neck on larger kids or adults - Won’t fit large schoolbooks; only for hiking use [**Buy It Here**](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DTarn%2B18) --- ### [Deuter Climber 22L ](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08258YW1D/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08258YW1D&linkId=60acfd66a113f79678d0fa98f86a2f46) ![Deuter Climber kids backpacking pack](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/deuter-climber.jpg "deuter climber - Mom Goes Camping") **Capacity:** 22 liters **Age range:** 10+ years old **Best use:** Backpacking, climbing #### Review Compared to other kids backpacking packs, the Deuter Climber has more places to attach gear. There are also pockets inside the pack and lid, so you can keep gear organized. Another standout feature of the Deuter Climber is that it fits tightly against the body.  This makes it more suitable for hiking on rough terrain since the pack won’t wobble around on a kid’s small body.  The hip belt is thick and padded to help distribute weight well. Considering how much storage and feature are on the pack, it is surprisingly lightweight.  The pack weighs 24oz. I wish it had a rain cover though. The only real downside to the Deuter Climber is that the torso length isn’t adjustable.  They claim that the pack will fit 10 to 17 inches torso lengths , but obviously this isn’t going to fit well.  The pack is really better suited for kids or small adults with torsos around 14 to 15 inches.  Some people say it fits their 7 year old children well but the backpack is probably better suited for ages 10 years and up. **Pros:** - Lots of storage and places to attach gear - Very comfortable - Hydration pack compatible - Padded straps, back and hip belt - Good weight (2lb 8oz) **Cons:** - Torso length not adjustable - No rain cover  **[Get It Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08258YW1D/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08258YW1D&linkId=60acfd66a113f79678d0fa98f86a2f46)** --- ### [Kelty Sanitas 34 External Frame Youth Backpack](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014JQ9DD0/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B014JQ9DD0&linkId=c4fd35fb9db80b601d0178fbcdc10e11) [![Kelty Sanitas external frame youth backpack](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/kelty-sanitas-34-backpack-external-frame.jpg "kelty sanitas 34 backpack external frame - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/kelty-sanitas-34-backpack-external-frame.jpg) **Capacity:** 34 liters **Age range:** 8-14 years old (9-14 inch torso) **Best use:** Scouts #### Review The Kelty Sanitas is one of the only youth external frame backpacks sold today.  While external frames aren’t as trendy as lightweight internal frame packs, these packs are a lot better for scouting trips where your children will be carrying all their own gear and thus need the extra space and organizational pockets.  With gear strapped onto the pack frame, you can carry much more than 34 liters on this youth pack. Even though the Sanitas pack looks retro, it’s got a lot of modern features like a hydration sleeve, comfortable S-shaped straps, and a padded hip belt. As you’d expect from an external frame pack, the ventilation is great. The torso length on the Sanitas is fixed and fits around 10-14 inches.  It is possible to do some DIY modifications to adjust the torso length though. **Pros:** - Hydration pack compatible - Great suspension - Lots of pockets - Places to tie down gear - Lid coverts to pouch **Cons:** - 3lbs 8oz - No rain cover - Torso length not adjustable **[Get It Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014JQ9DD0/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B014JQ9DD0&linkId=c4fd35fb9db80b601d0178fbcdc10e11)**                                                                **Heading out soon?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup. **[                                                                   Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** --- ### [REI Tarn 40](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DTarn%2B40) [![REI Tarn 40 youth backpacking pack](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/rei-tarn-40-backpack-youth.jpg "rei tarn 40 backpack youth - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/rei-tarn-40-backpack-youth.jpg) **Capacity:** 40 liters **Age range:** 8+ years old (12-16 inch torso) **Best use:** Backpacking #### Review The REI Tarn 40 is an affordable backpack for tweens going on overnight backpacking trips.  The main feature is that the torso length is adjustable from 12 to 16 inches so you can get a good fit.  I also love that the hip belt has lots of padding so your kids can carry heavier loads in it without straining their back. While there are some really nice features on the REI Tarn 40 pack, it annoys me that you can only access the gear from the lid.  A bottom or front-access zipper would be very helpful on longer trips. You can strap some gear outside the pack but it could make the pack too bulky for your kids – so resist the urge to strap everything on the outside. Because it’s so deep, the Tarn 40 doesn’t work well as a day hike pack because it’s so deep.  Note that REI also makes a 65L version of this youth pack (the Tarn 65).  It has a torso length of 14-19 inches though, so it only suitable for taller children. **Pros:** - Adjustable torso - Lots of places to attach gear to pack - Padded straps, hip belt and back - Okay weight (2lbs 10oz) - Hydration pack compatible **Cons:** - Thin material not as durable - Only top access to gear in pack - No rain cover [**Get It Here**](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DTarn%2B40) --- ### [Deuter Fox 40](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074D3HYLH/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B074D3HYLH&linkId=4bdcc7ce84e65b370940f9f37dcb01ac) [![Deuter Fox 40 kids backpacking pack](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/deuter-fox-40.jpg "deuter fox 40 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/deuter-fox-40.jpg) **Capacity:** 40 liters **Age range:** 8+ years old (10-18 inch torso) **Best use:** Backpacking, trekking #### Review The Deuter Fox 40 is slightly more expensive than the REI Tarn 40, but it has many more features which mean you’ll get more use out of it. For starts, the Deuter Fox 40 is a very comfortable backpacking pack. It has nice padded straps and back area, good ventilation, and a sturdy hip belt.  The straps have an S-shape to them so won’t rub against your neck. This makes it a [good backpack for petite women](https://momgoescamping.com/best-hiking-backpacks-petite-women/) too.  You can adjust the torso length from 10 inches to 18 inches.  In theory, younger kids could use the Deuter Fox 40 but it probably way to big for kids under 8 years old. I love the storage on the Deuter Fox 40. You can access gear from the top or bottom.  There are 5 pockets plus the main compartment (which is one more pocket than the REI Tarn 40) and a sleeping bag divider inside the pack. The only real complaint is that the pack doesn’t have a rain cover and is a bit heavy at over 3lbs.  But, the weight comes from more durable materials and a sturdier frame, so it’s more comfortable to carry heavy loads with it. Note that Deuter also makes a Fox 30 backpack.  It has the same torso length range as the Fox 40.  It probably makes more sense to just get the larger 40L pack since you’ll be able to get more use out of it. **Pros:** - Adjustable torso length (11 to 18 inches) - Very comfortable - S-shaped straps - Padded straps, hip belt and back - Lots of storage space - Top and bottom access - Hydration pack compatible **Cons:** - No rain cover - Heavy (3lbs 2oz)  [Get It Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074D3HYLH/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B074D3HYLH&linkId=4bdcc7ce84e65b370940f9f37dcb01ac)** --- ### [Gregory Wander 50](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F4N9CLQ/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07F4N9CLQ&linkId=deb5262996ff4c61dc0989c210265b7d) [![Gregory Wander 50 youth backpacking pack](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/gregory-wander-youth-backpack.jpg "gregory wander youth backpack - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/gregory-wander-youth-backpack.jpg) [![Features on Gregory Wander youth backpack](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/gregory-wander-50-youth-pack-features.jpg "gregory wander 50 youth pack features - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/gregory-wander-50-youth-pack-features.jpg) **Capacity:** 50 liters **Age range:** 10+ years old (13-18 inch torso) **Best use:** Backpacking, trekking, travel #### Review For older kids going on more serious backpacking trips, this is a great pack.  It has all the features you’d expect of a professional adult pack, just scaled down a bit to fit a kid’s body.  The torso length is adjustable from 13 to 18 inches.  It could fit kids as young as 8 years old, though 50L is too large for most kids of that age.  Realistically, this backpacking pack is best for kids starting at 10 years old. One of my favorite features on the Gregory Wander 50 is the U-zipper that goes around the front of the pack.  It allows you to completely open the front, which makes packing gear easily.  It also makes this backpack good for travel. There’s a good steel spring internal frame in the pack.  Combined with the padded hip belt and straps, your child will get a good fit. The pack is sleek and fits well against the body, so is suitable for hiking on rough terrain. The only slight issue with this youth pack is the lightweight materials used to make it.  They aren’t very durable, which isn’t great for kids who don’t know how to take good care of their gear yet. **Pros:** - Hydration pack compatible - Rain cover included - U zipper front access - 6 external pockets **Cons:** - Heavy (3lbs 5.6oz) - Lightweight materials not very durable [ Get It Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F4N9CLQ/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07F4N9CLQ&linkId=deb5262996ff4c61dc0989c210265b7d) --- ### [Osprey Ace 50](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07Z9Z1D28/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07Z9Z1D28&linkId=83cce69d7a8a60c4a32413457f6ddc43) [![Osprey Ace 50 kids backpacking pack](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/osprey-ace-50-youth-backpack.jpg "osprey ace 50 youth backpack - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/osprey-ace-50-youth-backpack.jpg) **Capacity:** 50 liters **Age range:** 10+ years old (13-17 inch torso) **Best use:** Backpacking, trekking #### Review Osprey makes nice backpacking packs, so it’s no surprise that their youth backpack pack is full of features.  It is designed like a real pack and has a padded hip belt, lift loader straps, and a good suspension system for comfortably carrying loads on rough terrain. The Osprey Ace 50 and Gregory Wander 50 are the same capacity and mostly have the same features.  However, I prefer the Gregory Wander 50.  It is lighter, has that awesome U zipper, and is much less bulky for the same storage capacity.  However, if your kid really likes suspended mesh back panels, then Osprey Ace 50 is the better choice. **Pros:** - Hydration pack compatible - Durable materials - Rain cover included - Suspended back mesh - Top and bottom access - 6 external pockets **Cons:** - Heavy (3lbs 11oz) - Bulky fit **[Get It Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07Z9Z1D28/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07Z9Z1D28&linkId=83cce69d7a8a60c4a32413457f6ddc43)** --- ## Choosing a Kids Hiking Backpack Not sure what backpack  your kids need for hiking or backpacking trips?  Here are the things you should consider when buying your kid a pack. ### Torso Length A backpack should fit exactly against your kids back. Otherwise the pack won’t sit right on your child, which means the weight will put at the shoulders instead of being distributed around the hips.   REI has a good [guide to measuring torso length](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Flearn%2Fexpert-advice%2Fbackpacks-adjusting-fit.html) here. The best youth backpacking packs have adjustable torso lengths.  This allows you to get a perfect fit on your kids and also still use the pack as they grow. ### Pack Volume Even if your kids are tall enough to wear large-volume backpacks, it doesn’t mean they should.  It’s very easy to overload a large backpack with too much gear, which in turn could cause spinal compression (not good on growing backs!). If you aren’t sure what pack volume your kids should have, lay out all the gear you plan on them carrying.  Then see how much space it takes up in liters. Add another 5-10 liters to this amount to allow room for growth. **For more, read:** **[How much weight can kids carry backpacking?](https://momgoescamping.com/how-much-weight-kids-carry-backpacking/)** ### Frame Type Kids hiking backpacks can be divided into three types by frame: - **No frame:** Backpacks without frames are only suitable for holding lighter loads for shorter periods of times, such as day hike packs. - **Internal frame:** Internal frames are most common on modern backpacking packs. It’s important that the pack is fitted to your child’s torso length.  Otherwise the frame won’t distribute the weight well. - **External frame:** External frames do a great job of distributing weight, have great back ventilation, and they have lots of places where you can add extra gear. They are bulky and wobbly though, so not as good for rough terrain like an internal frame youth pack. ### Hiking Packs for Very Little Kids When your kids are very little, it often doesn’t make sense to buy them their own hiking pack.  They will outgrow it quickly, so you won’t get much use out of it.  A lot of parents just use their kids’ school bags when hiking since they already know they are comfortable. However, kids also like to have their own special packs. My daughter got her own pack at 3 years old. I still ended up carrying it on backpacking trips, but at least it was small enough to attach to my pack. **Tip:** Get a backpack which will fit you too.  Then you can use it as a day pack on trips from base camp. ### Using an Adult Backpack on Kids Ideally, you shouldn’t use an adult backpack for a child.  Adult packs are much wider and have longer torso lengths.  The hip belt probably won’t fit snugly either.  You are better off using your kid’s school bag instead of trying to put an adult pack on their smaller body. ### Hip Belts on Youth Backpacks For easy day hikes, your kids’ backpack probably doesn’t need a hip belt.  But anytime you put a heavy load on your child or get on rough terrain, your kids need to use a hip belt.  It is crucial for distributing the weight to your child’s hips. The problem is that kids don’t really have much in terms of hips.  Thin hip belts will slide right off, so your kids will probably end up cinching them over their stomach (not comfortable or good for the back!).  This is why it’s really worth it to look for youth packs with wide, padded hip belts.  And make sure your kids actually wear them! ### How Much to Spend on a Youth Backpack Youth backpacks for serious trekking aren’t cheap.  But avoid using a cheap backpack without suspension, hip belts, padded straps or a good fit. Cheap backpacks won’t distribute the pack weight well, which can mess up your kid’s back.   Also bear in mind that your kids will like backpacking more if they are comfortable. To save money, choose an in-demand brand of backpack; it will have more resell value.  You can also check out [REI’s Outlet](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Frei-garage).  They sometimes have great deals on last-season’s models youth backpacks. ## Kids Hiking Backpacks FAQ: #### What size backpack does a child need for hiking? It depends on the trip. For day hikes, 8 to 18 liters is plenty enough for water, snacks, a jacket, and a first aid kit. For overnight backpacking trips, kids ages 8 and up can manage 30 to 40 liters with appropriate weight inside. The key is not to size up just because a bigger pack exists — overpacking a large pack is harder on a growing back than a snug smaller one. #### At what age can kids carry their own backpack hiking? Most kids can carry a small pack from around age 3, though they’ll want to ditch it after 20 minutes. By ages 5 to 7, a properly fitted 18-liter pack with their own water, snacks, and a layer is realistic for a few miles. By ages 8 to 10, kids can carry a loaded overnight pack — but stay within 10 to 15% of their body weight. #### Should a kids hiking backpack have a hip belt? For day hikes with light loads, not necessarily. For anything heavier or longer, yes and it needs to be a wide, padded belt that actually sits on the hips, not a thin strap that slides onto the stomach. Most cheap youth packs skip this or do it poorly; it’s the main reason to spend a bit more on a quality brand. #### Can my child use an adult backpack? Not well. Adult packs have longer torso lengths and wider hip belts that won’t transfer weight properly to a child’s smaller frame. You’re better off using their school bag for a day hike than strapping them into an adult pack that doesn’t fit. #### How do I know if a kids backpack fits correctly? Put the pack on with the hip belt fastened first, then the shoulder straps. The hip belt should sit on the top of the hips, not the waist. The shoulder straps should follow the curve of the shoulders without gapping. Lift the shoulder straps off slightly, if the pack stays put, the hip belt is doing its job. If the pack tilts forward or slides, the torso length needs adjusting. **What hiking backpack do your kids use? Let us know in the comments below.** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Backpacking, Hiking **Tags:** backpack, kids --- ### [How to Safely Remove a Leech: What Actually Works](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-remove-leech/) **Published:** August 4, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Of all the bloodsucking parasites, leeches are probably my least favorite.  You’ve got to touch their weird slimy bodies to detach them and there’s usually a lot of blood involved.  But, because a lot of the waters I swim in while camping often have leeches, removing leeches is something I’ve learned to deal with. If you are going somewhere with leeches (or have one attached to you right now!), here’s what you need to know about getting a leech off your body *safely*. --- **Gourmet As Heck  –  Full Colour e-Book  –  Backpacking Meals** **Want gourmet meals on the trail?** My dehydrator recipes ebook has 50+ calorie-dense backpacking recipes  just add hot water. **[Get it here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck)** --- ## Where Do Leeches Live? Leeches are found on all continents except for Antarctica.  They are sometimes on muddy land or in oceans but they usually prefer shallow bodies of fresh water.  That means ponds, lakes, marshes, streams and riverbanks. Sometimes you will see leeches swimming around in the water.  Most of the time though, leeches hide in mud or rocks at the bottom of the water.  They are very good hiders and you probably won’t notice them until they’ve come out of hiding to suck your blood. [![Leech in bucket of water](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/leech-in-cup.jpg "leech in cup - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/leech-in-cup.jpg)*My daughter caught this leech from a glacier lake*[![leech bucket of water](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/leech-hiding.jpg "leech hiding - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/leech-hiding.jpg)*Look how well the leech hides in just a little bit of dirt* ## How Do Leeches Get On You? Leeches are attracted to movement.  When you enter leech-infested waters, they will swim towards the movement.  I’ve found that if I swim very quickly, the leeches don’t have time to attach to me.  However, if I tread water or float around, the leeches easily get on me.  Likewise, if I stick my feet or wade in leech waters, they will attach to my feet. ![leech sock bleeding](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/leech-bite-through-clothes.jpg "leech bite through clothes - Mom Goes Camping")*Leeches can even bite through your clothing* ## Are Leeches Dangerous? Generally, leeches are not dangerous.  They usually bite on the outside of the body, feed for 20 to 60 minutes, and then drop off.  However, there are some rare cases where people experience severe bleeding from leeches which got *inside* their bodies.  There are also some situations where leeches could pass diseases to their hosts. ## Do Leeches Carry Disease? Yes, leeches do carry diseases.  Studies have shown that leeches carry various parasites, bacteria and viruses.  The good news is that the diseases usually aren’t found in the saliva glands, so leeches rarely transmit these diseases to their hosts.  However, if the leech is irritated or squeezed during removal, the leech might regurgitate the contents of its guts into the bite – potentially causing disease.  This is why proper leech removal is so important. (Sources: [1](https://www.americanoutdoor.guide/survival-skills/dont-suck-it-up-how-to-properly-remove-leeches/), [2](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK518971/), [3](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8073013/)) ## How to Remove a Leech Safely: 3 Methods ### Method 1: Wait for the leech to fall off on its own If you can stomach it, the best way to remove a leech is to just wait.  They will usually finish feeding in 20 to 60 minutes and fall off on their own afterwards.  There is almost no chance that you will get an infection or end up with the mouthparts stuck in your skin if you can wait it out. ### Method 2: Detaching the leech Because having a leech on you is pretty gross, this is the method I usually use. 1. **Remain calm.** Resist the urge to grab the leech and rip it off your body! 2. **Identify the mouth of the leech.** Leeches usually have two suckers. The mouth sucker has jaws and is the part which bites you. It is typically narrower.  The posterior (back) sucker is used to hold on. It is typically wider. 3. **Slide a flat object under the mouth sucker.** Working from the side of the mouth, slide the flat object on your skin towards the sucker. This should break the leech’s suction.  I find a credit card works best for this.  You can also use your fingernails. 4. **Toss the leech aside.** As soon as the leech’s mouth detaches, grab the leech and toss it aside. Do this quickly so it can’t reattach itself. ![leech mouth and posterior sucker](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/leech-mouth-and-posterior-sucker.jpg "leech mouth and posterior sucker - Mom Goes Camping") ### Method 3: Detaching the Back Sucker Apparently leeches sometimes fall asleep while sucking. In these cases, they can be on you for hours without falling off.  In these cases, you can trick the leech into detaching. 1. **Locate the rear sucker.** It is the thicker, wider side of the leech. 2. **Pull off the rear sucker.** You can do this with your hands or with a flat object. 3. **Wait for the leech to detach.** When you detach the rear sucker, the leech will think it is about to fall.  It will often then release its mouth sucker, allowing you to fling it aside.   If this doesn’t work, you’ll need to use method #2. ![leech mouth and sucker](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/leech-mouth-side.jpg "leech mouth side - Mom Goes Camping") ## Can You Use Salt to Remove a Leech? Even though it is often recommended, you should *not* use salt to remove a leech.  Applying salt irritates the leech and increases the likelihood that it will regurgitate into the wound when detaching from your skin – thus increasing the likelihood of infection. Saline solution is sometimes used to remove leeches, but only in cases where the leech is attached somewhere difficult to reach, like inside the nose or ear canal.  In these situations, the leech should be removed by a medical professional. ### Other Unsafe Ways to Remove a Leech: Just like with [tick removal](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-remove-tick/), the methods of removing leeches below are unsafe because they increase the chances that the parasite will regurgitate into the wound or the mouth parts will remain in the skin. **Do NOT:** - **Pull the leech off.** The leech mouthparts could remain in your skin. While usually not dangerous, leech mouthparts stuck in your skin can cause irritation and possibly infection. - **Apply vinegar, alcohol, or turpentine to the leech.** - **Burn the leech or apply heat.** Such as with the end of a match. --- ## How to Remove Leech Teeth Stuck in the Skin Leeches have three jaws that form a Y shape. Each jaw has around 100 teeth that move back and forth to bite the skin. If you rip the leech off of your skin, the leech jaws might tear off and get stuck in your skin.  You probably won’t be able to see the leech mouthparts in your skin but it might cause irritation and a lump. **There’s no smart way to remove the hundreds of tiny leech teeth stuck in your skin: you just have to wait for your body to push them out on its own**. ![leech marks teeth](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/leech-wounds.jpg "leech wounds - Mom Goes Camping")*There are probably teeth embedded in some of these leech bite wounds* ## Can Leeches Get Inside Your Body? Yes, leeches can sometimes make their way inside your body.  When this happens, it is usually inside a person’s nose or ears.  Leeches sometimes get into the vagina or anus too, especially if you were swimming in leech-infested waters naked.  Once inside the body, a leech can stay there for weeks.  One sign that you have a leech inside your body is unexplained bleeding from an orifice. ### How to Remove Leech from Nose Ideally, a medical professional should remove leeches inside your nose. If you can’t get to a doctor though, you can use these methods to remove a leech in your nose yourself. - Apply salt to the leech to encourage it to detach. - Then use forceps to grab the leech and pull it out. - If the leech is getting bigger as it feeds and you are worried it will obstruct breathing, then carefully stab through the leech with a small knife. There will be lots of blood but the leech will die, making it easier to remove.  The jaws might remain attached though, so expect some irritation in the nasal canal. ### How to Remove a Leech in Your Ear Like with other internal leeches, leeches in the ear should be done by a medical professional.  If you don’t remove it properly, it could damage the sensitive membranes in the ear.  In case you can’t get to a doctor: - Drip saline solution into the ear. If part of the leech is visible, you can apply salt to it directly. - The leech should stop moving and bleeding should gradually stop. When it does, use forceps to gently remove the leech. - If the leech doesn’t stop moving after applying saline solution, then apply glycerin ear drops (glycerin phenique). Once the leech stops moving and bleeding stops, pull the leech out with forceps. I keep [these saline solution ampules](https://amzn.to/3YIlvZI) in my camping first aid kit.  While I haven’t had to use them on leeches, they are also good for cleaning out small wounds or debris in the eyes. ![saline solution ampules](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/saline-bottles.jpg "saline bottles - Mom Goes Camping") \*Here’s [**what else I keep in my camping first aid kit**](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-first-aid-checklist/) for treating everything from leech bites to stomach bugs. ## Treating a Leech Bite After removing a leech, you shoud: 1. Clean the wound with saline solution or water. 2. Apply an antiseptic to the wound. Hydrogen peroxide, Povidone iodine and antibiotic wound ointments are all suitable options. 3. Apply a sterile dressing to the wound and secure it in place with a bandage. ![leech foot bleeding](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/leech-bite-bleeding.jpg "leech bite bleeding - Mom Goes Camping")*It usually doesnt hurt but leech bites can look pretty dramatic because of all the blood* ### Leech Bite Bleeding Like Crazy Leeches can drink up to 1ml of blood per minute (that’s 4 teaspoons in 20 minutes).  When they bite, leeches release various anticoagulant substances into the skin to improve blood flow.  It can take a long time before these substances wear off.  So, it is normal for a leech bite to bleed like crazy even after the leech is removed.   Usually the bleeding will stop within a couple hours.  However, the wound can bleed for up to 7 days – especially if it was attached to mucus membranes. **If a leech bite won’t stop bleeding:** - Clean the bite site with hydrogen peroxide. This helps remove the anticoagulant substances from the wound. - If you have one, apply a hemostatic (blood-clotting) dressing on top of the wound. - Use a compression bandage over the dressing. Pressure will slow down the blood. [![foot leech bleeding removal](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/leech-bite-bleeding-2.jpg "leech bite bleeding 2 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/leech-bite-bleeding-2.jpg)*A band aid usually isnt enough to contain the blood from a leech bite* ### Leech Removal FAQ: #### What is the safest way to remove a leech? Slide a flat object (a credit card or fingernail) along your skin from the side, working under the leech’s narrow mouth sucker until the suction breaks. Then flick the leech away before it can reattach. The key is not to squeeze, burn, or apply salt — all of these can cause the leech to regurgitate into the wound. #### Will a leech eventually fall off on its own? Yes. Leeches finish feeding in 20 to 60 minutes and drop off naturally. If you can tolerate it, this is actually the lowest-risk option there’s almost no chance of infection or mouthparts remaining in the skin if you just wait it out. #### How long does a leech bite bleed? Longer than you’d expect. Leeches inject anticoagulants when they bite, which keep the blood flowing after the leech is gone. Most bites stop bleeding within a few hours, but wounds on mucous membranes can bleed on and off for up to a week. Apply pressure with a clean bandage and clean with hydrogen peroxide if it won’t slow down. #### Should I be worried about disease from a leech bite? In almost all cases, no. While leeches can carry bacteria and parasites, transmission to humans through a normal bite is rare. The main risk factor is improper removal squeezing or burning the leech can cause it to regurgitate into the wound. Remove the leech correctly, clean the bite well with antiseptic, and monitor for unusual redness or swelling over the following days. #### How do I prevent leeches when swimming or hiking? Cover up in leech-heavy water — leeches can bite through thin fabric but thick socks and full coverage helps. Move quickly through water rather than floating or wading slowly. Check your skin and clothing immediately after exiting the water, especially ankles, behind knees, and between toes. Some hikers apply DEET to socks and lower legs in leech-heavy forest environments. **What’s your worst leech bite story? Let us know in the comments section below!**    And you can read more about leeches below: - [How to Remove a Stuck Tick Head](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-remove-a-tick-head-stuck-in-your-skin/) - [Camping First Aid Checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-first-aid-checklist/) - [Getting Sick While Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/get-sick-camping/) --- ###### Sources: <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK518971/> <https://cottagelife.com/outdoors/10-things-you-didnt-know-about-leeches/> <https://nhlakes.org/wp-content/uploads/4-Lake-Ecology-Native-Species-Leeches-NH-LAKES.pdf> <https://www.americanoutdoor.guide/survival-skills/dont-suck-it-up-how-to-properly-remove-leeches/> <https://www.popsci.com/so-youve-been-bitten-by-leech-whats-worst-that-could-happen/> <https://musculoskeletalkey.com/the-biology-of-leeches/> Image credits: “[Haemadipsa sp.](https://www.flickr.com/photos/92252798@N07/13177094244/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Dick Culbert](https://www.flickr.com/people/92252798@N07/), “[Leeches Suck (but they are great creatur](https://www.flickr.com/photos/oakleyoriginals/3622999458/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [OakleyOriginals](https://www.flickr.com/people/oakleyoriginals/), “[Leech bites!](https://www.flickr.com/photos/blackfog/39516939655/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [blackfog](https://www.flickr.com/people/blackfog/), “[leech wounds](https://www.flickr.com/photos/erautio/448701931/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [rautiocination](https://www.flickr.com/people/erautio/), “[Leech](https://www.flickr.com/photos/dave-rogers/2677837738/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [Dave ®](https://www.flickr.com/people/dave-rogers/), “[Leeches wounds on my feet!](https://www.flickr.com/photos/matthieu-aubry/264909224/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [Matthieu Aubry.](https://www.flickr.com/people/matthieu-aubry/), “[haemadipsid leech](https://www.flickr.com/photos/briangratwicke/15720870289/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [brian.gratwicke](https://www.flickr.com/people/briangratwicke/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety --- ### [20+ Easy Backpacking Meals from Supermarket Foods](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-supermarket-foods/) **Published:** August 27, 2019 **Author:** Diane **Content:** While those pouches of freeze-dried backpacking food do make meal planning easier, I personally never buy them.  Why? Because there are already so many backpacking foods that you can find in the supermarket. With just a little bit of planning, you can get meals which are tastier, healthier, and a heck of a lot cheaper. This guide will give you lists of backpacking foods you can find in the supermarket, plus tons of ideas about how to use the “assemble method” to create your own backpacking meals from supermarket finds. **\*\*\*If you really want to improve your backpacking food, consider dehydrating.  I’ve written all about how to do it in my ebook.  [Learn more here](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/).\*\*\*** ![dehydrator backpacking recipes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/book-with-tablet.png "book with tablet - Mom Goes Camping") ## Ready-Made Backpacking Meals from the Supermarket ![backpacking food for 4 days](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/14611552561_11eb4071c9_z.jpg "backpacking food for 4 days - Mom Goes Camping")*Heres backpacking food from the supermarket for 4 days mostly ready made meals* There is no shortage of instant or “ready-made” meals that you can find in the supermarket.  I’m talking about the meals which come in boxes, bags, or pouches.  You just add water and boil in order to make a meal. Not all ready-made meals work well for backpacking though.  You’ll need to pay careful attention to: - **Cooking time:** In general, I won’t bring any food backpacking which needs to cook for longer than 10 minutes. It simply uses too much fuel. - **Calorie density:** Divide the number of calories by the weight in ounces. You want to get *at least* 120 calories per ounce.  More on calorie density [here](https://momgoescamping.com/nutrition-backpacking-thru-hiking/). - **Packaging:** Some instant meals (like microwavable meals) need to remain in their packaging. The packaging might be full of air and bulky, which isn’t practical if you don’t have much room in your pack. ### Ready-Made Backpacking Breakfasts - Oatmeal pouches - Cereal with powdered milk (coconut milk is especially calorie dense) - Bagels with mini containers of peanut butter, nutella, jam, honey, etc. - Cereal bars - Pop Tarts - Instant breakfast powders - Instant buckwheat porridge mixes (or other gluten-free instant porridges) - Pancake mixes (though I personally would never bother making pancakes on the trail; they are better suited for camping trips) ### Ready-Made Backpacking Dinners - Mac n’ Cheese - Near East brand boxes of couscous, pilaf, and tabouleh, and quinoa mixes - Annie Chung’s noodle bowls - Ramen - Rice-a-Roni - Pasta-Roni - Suddenly Salad Pasta - Marie Callender Easy Pasta meals - Prego Ready Meals - Hamburger Helper Macaroni - Stove Top Stuffing Mix - Instant soups, bagged ### Cooking Microwavable Meals while Backpacking ![Prego Ready Meals for backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/ready-meals.jpg "ready meals - Mom Goes Camping") Instant meals which were designed to be microwaved can still be used while backpacking.  You’ll just have to cook them IN THE POUCH. Boil a pot of water. Put the pouch in the water.  Then cover the pot.  It usually takes about 5 minutes of boiling to prepare the meal.  For example, Prego Ready Meals say “microwave for 1 minute” but will require 5 minutes with the boil method. ## Assembling Backpacking Meals from Supermarket Foods ![tortilla with refried beans and string cheese backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/2751745500_aa632409fd_z.jpg "2751745500_aa632409fd_z - Mom Goes Camping") If you want to step your backpacking meals up a notch, go with the “assemble method.”  This basically means that you combine a bunch of different foods you found in the supermarket into one meal. The assemble method means you can avoid all of the sodium in instant meals (which will help if you’ve got issues with your [feet swelling while backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/feet-swelling-hiking/)).  You will also get a lot more variety.  My assembled backpacking meals are damn near gourmet! To use the assemble method, you just choose a carb, protein, and some add-ins for flavor and nutrition. Below are lists of some options you can choose from. ### Carbs: These will form the base of your backpacking meal. Look for ones that will cook quickly or don’t require any cooking. - Pasta - Ramen - Tortillas - Couscous - Crackers - Instant mashed potatoes - Instant rice - Couscous - Tortellini (Barilla makes one that has 3 types of cheese; it’s 102 calories/oz) - Gnocchi – not the refrigerated kind, obviously ### Proteins and Cheeses: - Tuna pouches - Chicken pouches - String cheese - Hard cheese - Salami - Jerky - Veggie jerky - Refried beans in pouches - TVP (textured vegetable protein) - Instant hummus mixes - Instant falafel mix (can’t use it to make falafel on the trail easily, but you can put the mix on top of pasta) ### Flavorful Add-ins: When it comes to sauces, look for ones in powdered form.  Then you just add water to make the sauce.  You might need two pots to make the meal.  For example, one pot for your instant mashed potatoes and another pot for your instant gravy. You can try to just put the sauce powder on top of the pasta, but you’ll end up with some chunks. - Instant pasta sauce - Instant dip mixes - Spice mixes - Ranch dressing/dip powdered mix - Taco seasoning mix - Salt - Bacon bits ### Nutritious Add-ins: These will give your backpacking meals a nutritional boost.  Your body will thank you, especially after a grueling day on the trail! - Freeze dried veggies and fruits - Dehydrated veggies and fruits - Chia or flax seeds - Green powders - Nuts and seeds - Other [backpacking superfoods](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-meal-superfoods/) ## Sample Backpacking Meals from Supermarket Foods All of these meals are made with the assemble method.  It’s really not that much work and certainly gives you more options than just buying pouches of freeze-dried backpacking meals. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/soup-veggies-croutons.jpg "soup veggies croutons - Mom Goes Camping") ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/tortellini-and-sauce.jpg "tortellini and sauce - Mom Goes Camping") ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/pasta-tvp-bolognese-sauce-mix.jpg "pasta tvp bolognese sauce mix - Mom Goes Camping") ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/couscous-plus-tuna.jpg "couscous plus tuna - Mom Goes Camping") **Breakfast:** 1. Oatmeal with dried fruit, nuts, seeds, and powdered milk (this can be done a zillion different ways depending on which fruits you add) 2. Granola with milk (from powdered) 3. Bagels with peanut butter and honey 4. Belgium waffle cookie with Nutella and dried bananas **Lunch:** 5. Tortillas with pouch of refried beans, string cheese, and pouch of taco sauce 6. Peanut butter and crackers 7. Instant soup with croutons and freeze-dried veggies added 8. Instant soup with tortillas added 9. Bagels with instant hummus mix 10. Dense bread with salami and hard cheese **Dinner:** 11. Couscous dinner with a pouch of tuna 12. Boxed Mac n’ Cheese with jerky added 13. Pasta with TVP and instant tomato sauce 14. Pasta with sunflower seeds and instant cheese sauce 15. Pasta with pouch of chicken and instant pesto sauce 16. Pasta with TVP and instant Bolognese sauce mix 17. Instant mashed potatoes with instant gravy mix 18. Instant mashed potatoes with bacon bits and hard cheese 19. Instant rice with TVP, freeze-dried veggies and taco seasoning 20. Instant rice with instant paneer in curry sauce (such as Ashoka Matar Paneer) 21. Tortellini with instant tomato sauce 22. Ramen noodle bowl with a pouch of chicken added ## Expert Tip: Repackage Meals ![dehydrated backpacking meal in baggies](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/mashed-potatoes.jpg "mashed potatoes - Mom Goes Camping")*Instant mashed potatoes with dehydrated sausages lentils and spinach Enough for 3 meals* Instead of leaving the supermarket backpacking foods in their original packaging, repackage them (I use strong zip baggies).   Put foods that get cooked together (like soup powder and freeze-dried veggies) in the same baggie. Remember that some parts of the meal might have to be cooked separately/second.  For example, first you cook pasta.  Once it is done, you add the instant sauce powder.  So, the pasta and sauce need to be packaged separately. Repackaging meals will cut down on the amount of trash you have to carry out. It also makes organizing your backpacking meals much easier. ## Dehydrating Backpacking Meals ![vegan backpacking chili](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/DSCF3727-min.jpg "vegan backpacking chili - Mom Goes Camping")*This quinoa chili was dehydrated On the trail I just add hot water and wait 5 minutes Voila Ive got a meal* If you dehydrate your own foods, you will have a LOT more variety in your backpacking meals.  For example, I love to dehydrate veggie sausages to add to instant mashed potatoes.  It’s delicious! You can even dehydrate entire meals.  Just add water on the trail and *presto!* You’ve got a delicious, healthy meal. **Learn more about making your own backpacking food in my eBook. It’s got over 50 recipes plus lots of info on nutrition and meal planning for backpacking trips. I’ll even give you a price break off since you read this entire post. 😀** **Want gourmet meals on the trail?** My dehydrator recipes ebook has 50+ calorie-dense backpacking recipes just add hot water. **[Get it here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck)** ### [**![backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/backpacking-dehydrator-recipes-ebook.jpg "backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook - Mom Goes Camping")**](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmetasheck50off) ### Backpacking Food from the Supermarket FAQ: #### Is supermarket food good enough for backpacking? Yes — and usually better than freeze-dried pouches. You get more variety, more control over ingredients and sodium, and you spend a fraction of the cost. The main tradeoff is that you need to think about calorie density and cooking time before you shop, rather than just grabbing labelled pouches off a shelf. #### What should I look for when buying backpacking food at the supermarket? Three things: cooking time (10 minutes or less, otherwise you burn too much fuel), calorie density (aim for at least 100-120 calories per ounce), and packaging (bulky or air-filled packaging isn’t worth the space). Repackage everything into zip-lock bags before the trip. #### What supermarket foods are highest in calories for backpacking? Nut butters, nuts and seeds, salami and hard cheese, instant mashed potatoes, couscous, and tortellini are all calorie-dense and packable. Tortillas are the underrated workhorse  they’re flat, don’t need cooking, and pair with almost any protein. #### Can you eat cold-soak meals made from supermarket foods? Yes. Couscous, instant mashed potatoes, ramen (broken up), and instant hummus mix all rehydrate in cold water given enough time, usually 15 to 30 minutes in a sealed container. Cold-soaking means zero fuel and zero dishes, which is worth it on long days. #### How do I keep supermarket backpacking food from getting crushed? Hard items like crackers and tortilla chips go in a rigid container or get left at home. Everything else survives fine in zip-lock bags, especially if you pack the fragile stuff on top. Bagels are tougher than they look and hold up well for the first day or two. ### **What backpacking meals do you make out of supermarket finds? Let us know in the comments below!** --- **Image creidts:** “[Hiker Food for 4 days](https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikeriders/14611552561/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Gronkca](https://www.flickr.com/people/bikeriders/), “[Dinner](https://www.flickr.com/photos/34791259@N00/2751745500/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [gutshot45\_70](https://www.flickr.com/people/34791259@N00/), “[Camping](https://www.flickr.com/photos/olitaillon/14159406120/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [O.Taillon](https://www.flickr.com/people/olitaillon/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Backpacking, Camping & Backpacking Food **Tags:** food, freeze dried, meal ideas, meals --- ### [Tips for Camping in Eastern Europe](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-eastern-europe/) **Published:** September 25, 2019 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I moved to Eastern Europe over 12 years ago.  One of the great things about living here is how much pristine, untouched nature there is.  Much of it is even accessible by public transportation (which is great for non-drivers like me). But camping in Eastern Europe is a lot different than what you’d expect in Western countries. If you are thinking about camping around Serbia, Montenegro, Croatia, Bosnia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Albania, Macedonia, Greece, or Ukraine, read this first. ## Campsites and Wild Camping in Eastern Europe Camping is definitely not as popular in Eastern Europe as it is in the West.  That means it can be hard to find campsites in many countries. If you do find a campsite, sometimes it is just someone’s field that they’ve turned into a “campground.”  Because of this, the services and experiences can vary drastically. **Tip:** If no campground is around, you can usually camp outside of “ethnic” restaurants or hotels.  They might charge a small fee or even let you stay for free. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/camping-in-front-of-restaurant.jpg "camping in front of restaurant - Mom Goes Camping")*Camping outside of [Shtepia RestaurantRanch](https://www.facebook.com/shtepiaalpikeranch/) in Peja Kosovo*![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/camping-at-mountain-hut.jpg "camping at mountain hut - Mom Goes Camping")*Camping in front of a mountain hut in Serbia Read more about these huts [here](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-go-camping-in-serbia/)* ### What about wild camping in Eastern Europe? I rarely stay at a campground when camping in Eastern Europe.  It is incredibly easy to wild camp in Eastern Europe. For the most part, wild camping in Eastern Europe is free.  Even if it isn’t technically legal, you will almost never run into problems.  The “worst” I’ve experienced is concerned locals who bring us cheese and chocolate out of concern for us. 😀 However, it’s still a good idea to brush up on the laws of wild camping in the country you are going to.  You can see a list of the [**wild camping laws of every country in Europe** ](https://momgoescamping.com/wild-camping-laws-europe/)here. **Also follow these guidelines when wild camping:** - **Be discreet.** Don’t set up camp right next to someone’s home, a main road, or any commercial businesses. - **Know the fire rules:** Making a fire will draw attention to yourself. And, if it’s an area where forest fires are a risk, you will likely get kicked out or fined. - **Follow the rules of Leave No Trace.** No one wants to see bits of toilet paper and piles of human shit.  Don’t be a jerk.  Dig a cathole when going to the bathroom and make sure to pack out your trash.  Otherwise locals aren’t going to be so friendly towards wild campers anymore!!! ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/camping-next-to-picnic-spot.jpg "camping next to picnic spot - Mom Goes Camping")*Camping at a picnic spot in Rozaje Montenegro Some locals came to hang out there at night and shared beer with me 😀*![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/wild-camping-in-kosovo.jpg "wild camping in kosovo - Mom Goes Camping")*My favorite camping spot in Rugova Gorge Kosovo* ### Camping in someone’s yard/field: People in Eastern Europe tend to be very friendly.  They will (usually) gladly let you camp on their land.  They might not understand *why* you choose to sleep in a tent.  Don’t be surprised if they offer to let you sleep in their home instead! A cool thing is that most households in rural or remote areas will have an outdoor sink.  You can use it to get water without having to bother them. **If you want to camp one someone’s property:** - **Ask permission first.** This is fun when you don’t speak the same language! 😀 - **Go to the bathroom far off the property.** And, again, follow the rules of Leave No Trace. - **Don’t make a fire**. I love campfires, but you don’t want to scar their yard with your fire. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/camping-koman-lake-albania.jpg "camping koman lake albania - Mom Goes Camping")*This was an insane camping experience You have to take a BOAT to get to this familys house on Koman Lake Albania There is literally no road that goes there They let me camp in their yard*![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/camping-in-someones-yard.jpg "camping in someones yard - Mom Goes Camping")*Camping in someones yard in Verusa Montenegro I made sure to get as far away from the house as possible*  ### Camping in National Parks The relaxed rules about wild camping generally *don’t* apply to national parks.  In parks, you will be expected to pay for camping at designated areas.  You might be required to get a permit if you want to backpack through the park and overnight camp. Yes, you could set up stealth camp somewhere within the national park without paying.  However, I personally wouldn’t recommend this unless you are very experienced at Leave No Trace. Why? Aside from the fact that park rangers might find you and give you a fine, the national parks tend to get a lot of visitors.  All those visitors put a strain on the ecosystem.  By camping outside of designated areas, you are further harming the nature. I’ve seen too much trash, toilet paper, human shit, and trees limbs cut down for firewood within National Parks in Eastern Europe.  So, again, unless you are really going to respect Leave No Trace, don’t wild camp in our parks! ## What to Expect Camping in Eastern Europe ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/camping-valbone.jpg "camping valbone - Mom Goes Camping")*Valbona Albania* Hiking and camping is starting to get more popular in Eastern Europe, but it is still not anywhere close to what it’s like in Western countries.  Because of this (and because our corrupt politicians aren’t putting any more towards nature preservation), you aren’t likely to find basic services in wild areas. **When hiking, you probably will NOT find:** - Bathrooms or outhouses - Clean drinking water - Trash cans - Reliable trail maps - Park rangers who can assist you For example, when I went camping in the Valbona area of Albania, [a local woman and her husband who run a campsite](https://journeytovalbona.com/valbona-hiking-trails/) actually made the trail maps.  They were also the ones going over the trails each year to check on the markers.  It’s awesome that they took the initiative to do this.  But it’s also sad that locals have to do this. Oh, and if you do manage to find a trail map, remember to check the date it was made.  Once I went camping in Mrtva Canyon in Montenegro.  I managed to find a contour map online.  After getting pretty lost trying to follow the map, I noticed that the map had been made in 1988! Needless to say, the map was out of date. ## Gear to Bring Because you won’t find things like bathrooms, trash cans, or trail maps when camping in Eastern Europe, you’ll need to bring certain gear. Bring this gear even if you are staying at a campground.  Why? Because if you hike anywhere, you will still need these things. 1. **Trowel:** For digging a cathole when going to the bathroom. 2. **Trash bags:** If you carried it in, carry it out! 3. **Water filter:** My [Sawyer Mini water filter](https://momgoescamping.com/sawyer-mini-tips/) is one of the best things I’ve ever bought. It removes bacteria, protozoa, etc. from water so it is safe to drink. I can drink water from streams, lakes, or even puddles. 4. **Rope:** Absolutely hang your food in trees and NEVER leave food in your tent! Aside from bears, there are other animals who will try to eat your food. Here’s [how to hang a food bag when camping](https://momgoescamping.com/hang-food-bag/). 5. **Satellite navigator:** This isn’t completely necessary. But remember that good trail maps are hard to find and there probably aren’t any park rangers who will be able to help you. **\***I suggest reading this [Hiking Checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-packing-list/) to make sure you don’t forget anything. ## Wild Animals in Eastern Europe Yes, there are some dangerous wild animals that you need to be aware of when camping in Eastern Europe.  Here’s a rundown: ### Snakes ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/snake.jpg "snake - Mom Goes Camping")*Heres a viper that I encountered while camping in Eastern Serbia* There are two types of venomous viper snakes in Eastern Europe.   Yes, these can kill you if you don’t get medical help soon enough!  I personally have seen these camping in Serbia, Montenegro and Bulgaria multiple times. **To stay safe, find out:** - Where the closest clinic is - Wow to say “snake” in the local language - [What to do if you see a snake](https://momgoescamping.com/what-to-do-if-you-see-a-snake/) - [What to do if you get bitten by a snake](https://momgoescamping.com/snake-bite-first-aid/) ### Bears Unlike in the USA (where bears regularly go towards campgrounds to get at the food), bears in Eastern Europe are mostly scared of people.  Unless you are way in the deep wilderness, you probably won’t encounter a bear while camping in Eastern Europe. However, there are exceptions.  Romania has a lot of brown bears.  The number is over 5,000! By comparison, Slovakia has around 1,000 bears and Ukraine has around 200 individuals. Because a lot of (idiotic) people feed the bears, the bears aren’t even scared of people.  My friends recently went to the Transfagarasan region and easily spotted several bears along the road.   They weren’t camping, but I wouldn’t be surprised if bears came right to campsites in that region. **Also read: [Bear Safety when Outdoors](https://momgoescamping.com/bear-safety/)** ### Wolves Like with bears, wolves have mostly learned to avoid people.  So, you don’t need to be too concerned about wolves in Eastern Europe.   However, that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be cautious. According to Wikipedia, here are the Eastern European countries with the most wolves: - Romania: 2,500 wolves - Belarus: 1,500-2,000 wolves - Ukraine: 2,000 wolves - Bulgaria: 1,200-1,500 wolves - Greece: 1,020 wolves - Macedonia: 1,000 wolves - Serbia: 500 wolves - Bosnia: 400 wolves - Macedonia: 250 wolves - Croatia: 200 wolves \*Note that wolves are very dangerous in certain countries like Kazakhstan.  The wolves hunt close to civilization to get sheep. **How do you stay safe when camping in wolf country?** - Never keep food in your tent. - Keep camp clean. - Keep children within sight - If you see a wolf and it doesn’t back away, raise your hands, make lots of noise, and throw rocks. Don’t wait until the wolf gets close to do this. - If the wolf approaches, back away slowly. Do not turn your back towards a wolf. NEVER RUN. - Keep dogs on the leash, especially if you spot a wolf. - Carry bear spray or pepper spray ### Stray and Feral Dogs Dogs are actually a huge problem in Eastern Europe.  Some are particularly aggressive and I admit I’m terrified of them.  Since I know they can “smell my fear”, it just makes me more scared! It’s best to avoid stray dogs as much as possible.  If you do feel threatened or get attacked, there are tricks you can use like throwing rocks towards them or spraying them in the eyes with deodorant. Read: [What to do if you see feral dogs](https://momgoescamping.com/feral-dog-attacks/) ### Cows Okay – cows probably don’t top your list of “dangerous” animals.  But cows actually kill more people per year than bears, wolves, or snakes. On a recent camping trip in Montenegro, our gear was actually attacked by cows! Everything turned out okay, but the trip could have been ruined or we could have gotten injured if we didn’t follow some basic safety protocols. Read about it in this post [Attacked by Cows while Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/attacked-cows-camping/). ## Safety (Hitchhiking, Theft, Women Travelers) Eastern Europe gets a bad rap for being unsafe.  When I first started traveling in this area, people warned me that gypsies would steal from me.  Or that the police would try to rob me. Well, in my 15+ year’s experience traveling around here – much of it done hitchhiking as a woman alone – I haven’t had any problems (knock on wood).  I even [hitchhiked with my 5 year old daughter](https://momgoescamping.com/why/). Gypsies? Yes, they do beg in many countries.  And they might pickpocket you in public transport.  But I personally found Western Europe to be more threatening than anything I found in Eastern Europe.  My personal theory is that the huge amounts of income inequality in the West make people more bitter.  Also, the people in Eastern Europe are generally too poor to develop serious drug addictions. \*Btw, the politically correct term for gypsy is *Roma.* They are an ethnic group that faces serious discrimination despite the fact that they’ve contributed vastly to the culture… ## Other Tips ### Camp Stoves and Fuel ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/cheap-stove-vs-primus-stove.jpg "cheap stove vs primus stove - Mom Goes Camping")*On the left is a stove which uses screw on canisters The stove on the right uses puncture type canisters that you can easily find in Eastern Europe* I use a gas canister backpacking stove.  The stove screws on to a gas canister.  The gas is good quality and lasts a really long time.  However, these gas canisters can be very difficult to find in Eastern Europe.  You definitely won’t find them in smaller towns! Even in bigger cities, the canisters can be hard to find.  For example, there are only two stores that I know of in Belgrade that sell gas canisters. By contrast, you CAN find these cheap puncture-type gas canisters almost anywhere.  Even in remote villages, the local store will almost always sell the gas canisters.  They are cheap: about 1 euro each.  The downside is that the stoves are really big and bulky, and that the canisters run out quickly. - If you use screw-top gas canisters, make sure you have enough for your entire trip. - Otherwise use the puncture-type gas canisters. They run out faster but you’ll actually be able to find refills. ### Food If you are doing hardcore backpacking in Eastern Europe, plan your meals well.  It may be harder than you’d think to find food resupplies. For example, I usually eat oatmeal for breakfast when camping.  On a camping trip to Albania, I went into town to resupply.  Surprisingly, I couldn’t find oats in any of the stores! Likewise, it can be hard to find things like canned beans, decent bread, instant meals, vegetarian foods, and other foods you might want to eat while camping. ### Camping Near Beaches ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/camping-on-beach-in-greece.jpg "camping on beach in greece - Mom Goes Camping")*Wild camping on the beach during the Greek off season* Wild camping near beaches in Eastern Europe is very difficult.  Most of the coastal areas have been taken over by cafes and hotels, so you won’t find many discreet areas. Since the coastal areas make their money off of tourists, they aren’t going to be so happy about you trying to camp for free either!  So, be prepared for fines if you get caught wild camping on a beach. In my experience, the campgrounds at beaches are really terrible, gross, and overpriced. There are some exceptions.  I loved camping at [Gjipe beach in Albania](https://momgoescamping.com/gjipe-beach-albania/), for example. I have friends who wild camp all around Greece.  They are only able to do it this way: They drive around and explore all day. Then, when night falls, they quickly put up their tents in a discreet area.  They take the tents down immediately in the morning. I did go free camping in Greece once – but it was off-season.   I definitely couldn’t have done that in the peak season. ### Land Mines in Bosnia and Croatia There are an estimated 80,000 unexploded land mines in Bosnia left over from the 1992-1995 war.  Since the war ended, 1,750 people have been injured from stepping on these mines and over 600 of them were killed. The situation is also bad in Croatia.  An estimated 31,000 land mines are unexploded there. As someone who used to live in Bosnia, I personally believe the land mine warnings are overstated.  The warnings make it sound like you could die while walking down a hiking path.  If there is a path, then obviously someone or something (cows, for example) have walked there since 1995.  It’s highly unlikely that you’d be injured. However, if you go into an overgrown field or other area where no one has walked in a very long time, there could be land mines. The bottom line? Don’t walk through overgrown areas when camping or hiking in Bosnia and Croatia! ## Camping in Eastern Europe FAQ: #### Is it safe to camp alone in Eastern Europe? In my experience, yes safer than people expect. I’ve hitchhiked solo and camped alone across Serbia, Montenegro, Kosovo, Albania, and Bulgaria for over 12 years. The reputation for danger is largely a Western media artifact. The bigger practical concerns are stray dogs, snakes in summer, and making sure you have enough water and food for remote areas. #### Do you need a permit to wild camp in Eastern Europe? It depends on the country. Wild camping is technically illegal in some countries but almost never enforced outside of national parks and protected areas. National parks are the exception — you’ll generally need to use designated camping areas and sometimes get a permit for overnight stays. Check the wild camping laws for your specific destination before you go. #### What’s the best way to find water when camping in Eastern Europe? Most rural areas have outdoor sinks or standpipes at farmhouses, locals are generally happy to let you fill up if you ask. Mountain streams are usually clean but always treat the water with a filter or purification tablets to be safe. Don’t count on finding water sources marked on older maps — infrastructure changes and springs dry up. #### Can you use a gas canister stove in Eastern Europe? It depends on the canister type. Screw-top canisters (used by most quality backpacking stoves) are very hard to find outside major cities. Puncture-type canisters are available almost everywhere, even remote villages, for about 1 euro each. If your stove takes screw-top canisters, bring enough for your whole trip or be prepared to adapt. #### Are the trails in Eastern Europe well-marked? Highly variable. Popular hiking areas like Durmitor in Montenegro or Valbona in Albania have reasonably good trail marking. Anywhere more remote, expect faded or missing blazes, outdated maps, and no park rangers. Download offline maps before you go, take a compass, and check when any map you find was last updated — I once got lost following a 1988 contour map. **Want to share your own experiences of camping in Eastern Europe? Let us know in the comments section below!** --- ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Backpacking **Tags:** Europe, Serbia --- ### [Kari Traa Base Layers Review: Worth It for Hiking?](https://momgoescamping.com/kari-traa-base-layers-review/) **Published:** December 7, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Kari Traa is a Norwegian brand launched in 2006 by the Olympic skier of the same name.  They make clothing “for women, by women” with a focus on clothes for skiing, hiking and other outdoor sports. The brand makes parkas, underwear, workout clothes, bras, and much more.  I’ve only tried the Kari Traa Merino wool base layers though, so that’s what I’m going to focus on here. **Specifically:** - **Rose Merino Wool Top:** Made of 240g/m2 wool in key areas and 210g/m2 in the side panels. It has a Henley (button down) neck. I have two of these 🙂 - **Floke Bottoms:** Made of 220g/m2 material; 60% Merino wool and 40% Lenzing (a sustainably-made synthetic material) ![kari traa rose base layer top](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/kari-traa-rose-base-layer-top.jpg "kari traa rose base layer top - Mom Goes Camping")The Kari Traa Rose base layer top[![kari traa floke base layer bottoms](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/kari-traa-floke-base-layer-bottoms.jpg "kari traa floke base layer bottoms - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/kari-traa-floke-base-layer-bottoms.jpg)The Kari Traa Floke base layer bottoms ## Quick Verdict: Kari Traa Merino wool base layers are really great when it comes to quality.  Everything from the materials, construction and fit have been carefully thought out.  My only issue is that some of the designs are a bit “too much.”  I wouldn’t want to wear the bottoms as leggings, but they are great as base layers or camping pajamas.  Kari Traa clothes aren’t cheap, but is on par with other Merino brands of similar quality and you can often find Kari Traa base layers on sale. **Pro Tip:** Check out [REI’s Outlet section](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dkari%2Btraa%26ir%3Dq%253Akari%2Btraa%26r%3Ddeals%253ASee%2BAll%2BDeals) for huge discounts on Kari Traa base layers from last season.  Sometimes [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3hcNBu9) has sales too. **Also read:** [Best Merino Base Layers for Women](https://momgoescamping.com/merino-wool-base-layers-women/) ## Kari Traa Base Layer Materials Almost all of the Kari Traa base layer tops are made from 100% Merino wool. Most of them are a hefty mid-weight thickness, which is perfect for when you are very active in very cold temps. They are also good for sitting around in mildly-cold and cold temps. Annoyingly, the brand doesn’t always list the weight of their Merino products in the descriptions.  After some digging, I was able to find out that the Rose top has 240 g/m2 in the front/back area and 210 g/m2 in the contrast fabric. \*If you don’t know why Merino wool is great, [read about it here](https://momgoescamping.com/is-merino-wool-worth-it/). ### Softness Kari Traa Merino base layers have a fiber thickness is *19.5 microns. That is in the middle range for Merino wool (which is already a super-fine type of wool). While definitely not the softest Merino out there, Kari Traa base layers do feel soft against your skin. I’m one of those people with sensitive skin and I don’t find my Kari Traa base layer tops itchy at all. 🙂 But I did find their 100% Merino base layer top to be softer and more comfortable than the Floke base layer bottoms, which are a 60%/40% Merino-polyester blend. \*To put the size in perspective, a human hair is approximately 70 microns, give or take 20 microns. ### Knit Method Most Kari Traa base layers use jacquard knit.  This knitting method is really sturdy.  More importantly, it has 4-way stretch: you can pull the material in all directions and it will return to its original state.  Cheaper base layers are made with single jersey or double jersey (aka interlock knitting), which only has a 2-way stretch. The 4-way stretch is nice because it means your base layers won’t get stretched out as quickly.  They will continue to hold their shape and hug your body well. Do note that the side panels on some Kari Traa base layers are made with interlock knitting.  The 4-way stretch isn’t as important in these areas, but it does seem like a sneaky method to cut costs while still claiming that they use jacquard knitting. ## Construction I’ve found that the best way to inspect the construction quality of a Merino base layer is to turn it inside out.  That allows you to see the seams and stitching better.  When you do this with Kari Traa clothing, you can see that a lot of thought went into it. Here are some of the cool things about the Kari Traa Rose top construction: - **Lighter material side panels:** The main area of the top is 240 g/m2 material and the side panels are a lighter 210 g/m2. This is great for ventilation, especially for keeping your armpits dry. - **No seams in the armpit area:** It is just one long strip of fabric, so there is literally no seam in the underarm area at all. Goodbye chaffing! - **Henley neck:** Unbutton the collar for ventilation. Some other Kari Traa tops have zippers. - **Flatlock seams everywhere:** ALL of the seams on the base layer top are flatlock. On top of that, the thread used for the seams also seems to be made out of Merino.  It is really soft! [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/no-seam-under-armpits.jpg "no seam under armpits - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/no-seam-under-armpits.jpg)*There is no seam under the armpit at all*[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/older-rose-base-layer-kari-traa.jpg "older rose base layer kari traa - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/older-rose-base-layer-kari-traa.jpg)*The older version of the Rose base layer does have an armpit seam though* The construction of the long johns is also nice.  They have an extra panel on the sides so you get a better fit and more movement.  Oddly though, there is no crotch gusset in the Floke pants.  A crotch gusset is crucial if you stretch your legs a lot.  Other models of Kari Traa bottoms do have the gusset though. ## Patterns and Design A lot of the Kari Traa base layer patterns are based on ethno Norwegian designs. You will either love or hate these designs.  I personally really like them, especially since most base layers for women are boring or downright ugly. However, I’ve got to admit that the designs are often “too much.”  It’s fine if you are wearing the base layers as intended – *under* other layers.  I don’t give a damn about style while hiking in the backcountry, but I am aware that I look ridiculous with all my colorful hiking clothes mixed together. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/most-colorful-person-on-the-trail.jpg "most colorful person on the trail - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/most-colorful-person-on-the-trail.jpg)Im definitely the most colorful person on the trail p My main issue is with the pattern on the Kari Traa base layer pants. I wouldn’t wear them by themselves in public.  Once I headed out on a bike ride with the KT Floke pants on with some jean shorts over them.   I actually went back and changed out of them because I looked too ridiculous (especially since my vest, buff and shoes were also colorful patterns). [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/kari-traa-base-layer-bottom-patterns-designs.jpg "kari traa base layer bottom patterns designs - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/kari-traa-base-layer-bottom-patterns-designs.jpg)Jeez these are colorful Maybe you are braver than me, but I’d rather have a plain pair of base layer bottoms so I can wear them in more situations.  Luckily Kari Traa does make some plainer styles of bottoms. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/kari-traa-lam-base-layers-front-and-back.jpg "kari traa lam base layers front and back - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/kari-traa-lam-base-layers-front-and-back.jpg)[These](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dkari%2Btraa%2Blam) are the Kari Traa bottoms I wish I had Because they dont have a pattern I could wear them by themselves without feeling too ridiculous ## Fit and Sizes Kari Traa base layers come in sizes ranging from XS to XXXL.  There aren’t as many plus-size options, but at least they have some options.  Other brands usually max out at L or XL. I’m a petite 5’1” and 105lbs and the small base layer top and bottom fit perfectly.  I like that the top is actually long enough that my back doesn’t get exposed when I lean over. ## Ethics and Sustainability Compared to cheap brands of Merino base layers, Kari Traa scores points for ethics.  They follow these standards: - **Non-museling wool:** Which is ensured with the IWTO certificate, Wool Spinning Certificate and a Certificate of Origin. - **Bluesign Certified:** Main suppliers are Bluesign Certified, which means that textiles are safe for the environment, workers and customers. - **Follow UN’s Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the International Labour Organization Regulations:** This involves equal pay for women, no child labor, and normal work hours (8 hours per day, 48 hours per week). - **Factory inspections:** Kari Traa brand apparently inspects their factories themselves. They also use the BSCI and IEH organizations to do inspections and ensure factories are following regulations for employee safety and working conditions. ## Price/Value Kari Traa base layers are not cheap (though you can usually find them on sale or discounted in outlet sections online).  However, the cost is directly proportional to the quality.  Other brands of Merino wool base layers which are of similar quality – such as Icebreaker and Smartwool – are similarly priced.  You can often find last-season’s models Kari Traa base layers in outlet sections though for much cheaper. ### Kari Traa vs. Smartwool Smartwool is the more popular than Kari Traa for base layers.  However, in many ways, Kari Traa is the better product.  Their base layer tops have more higher-end features, such as zip or Henley collars and the construction is better quality.  The cost is roughly the same for similar-weight products, but Kari Traa has more options for patterns. For animal welfare, both brands are equal and don’t use museling wool.  However, Smartwool doesn’t provide any evidence that their factories provide a living wage or safe working conditions. Note that only Smartwool socks are currently made in the USA.  The rest of their products are made inChina, Vietnam or Bangladesh. ### Kari Traa vs. Icebreaker Many Icebreaker base layers use ultra-fine Merino with a fiber size of just 15.5 microns.   It might not sound like much, but this is much softer than the 19.5 microns used in many Kari Traa base layers. Icebreaker also has more options when it comes to technical fit and construction.  For example, their Zone Knit base layers have multiple panels made of different weight materials for better ventilation as well as thumb holes. These models are considerably more expensive than Kari Traa base layers though.  When you compare KT and Icebreaker models that are similar in price, the construction quality is very similar. As for design, Icebreaker does have some cool patterns.  But Kari Traa has a lot more options for patterns, especially when it comes to base layer bottoms. Like with Kari Traa, Icebreaker also only uses certified non-mulesing wool.  They claim that they use fair and safe factory conditions, but they don’t give any evidence that this is actually being enforced. Read More about other layering choice below: - [Is Merino Wool Worth It?](https://momgoescamping.com/is-merino-wool-worth-it/) - [Best Merino Base Layers for Women](https://momgoescamping.com/merino-wool-base-layers-women/) - [Why Merino Base Layers Cost 2x More](https://momgoescamping.com/why-merino-base-layer-cost-2x-more/) ## Kari Traa Base Layers FAQ: Are Kari Traa base layers worth the money? Yes, if you want a high-quality merino base layer with more interesting designs than most brands offer. The construction on the Rose top in particular is genuinely better than many competitors at the same price — flatlock seams, no underarm seam, Henley collar. Where Kari Traa falls short is pattern restraint: the bottoms are bold enough that most people won’t wear them as standalone leggings. How does Kari Traa sizing run? True to size in my experience. I’m 5’1″ and 105 lbs and the small fits well — importantly, the top is long enough to stay tucked when you lean or reach, which a lot of base layers fail at. They go up to XXXL, which is more than most merino brands offer. Can you machine wash Kari Traa base layers? Yes — merino wool base layers including Kari Traa can be machine washed on a gentle/wool cycle in cold water. Turn them inside out, skip the fabric softener (it coats the fibers and reduces moisture-wicking), and lay flat to dry rather than putting them in the dryer. How does Kari Traa compare to Smartwool? Kari Traa is better constructed at similar price points, the Rose top has features like a Henley collar and no underarm seam that Smartwool base layers don’t match at equivalent prices. Smartwool has wider availability and more understated designs. Both use non-mulesing wool. Kari Traa is more transparent about factory labor conditions. How does Kari Traa compare to Icebreaker? Icebreaker uses finer merino (15.5 microns vs 19.5 for Kari Traa) so their tops feel softer against skin. Icebreaker also offers more technical options like Zone Knit panels and thumb holes. At the same price point, construction quality is comparable. Kari Traa wins on pattern variety; Icebreaker wins on softness and technical options at the higher end. --- ###### Sources: <https://sgbonline.com/made-in-the-usa-by-machines/> ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [The 10 Types of Camping Tents (with Photos)](https://momgoescamping.com/types-camping-tents-with-photos/) **Published:** November 27, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** There used to be only four types of camping tents: dome, teepee, A-frame, and tunnel tents. Tent design has come a long way over the past few decades though.  Now, we can break down tents into 10 different types based on their shape or setup. Read more about tent and tarp setup below: - [How to Pitch a Tent in the Rain](https://momgoescamping.com/pitch-tent-in-rain-inside-doesnt-get-wet/) - [How to Set Up a Tarp Shelter](https://momgoescamping.com/tarp-shelters/) — natural in the bivy sack and A-frame sections It’s actually very important to know about these different types of tents because some are much better suited for certain types of camping – like some shapes of tent being able to withstand bad weather better or certain tents having more interior space for large families. Below are the 10 main types of camping tents with photos, the pros and cons of each tent type, and what they are best for. ## 1. Dome Tents [![Coleman Sundome Tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/dome-tent-coleman-sundome.jpg "dome tent coleman sundome - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/dome-tent-coleman-sundome.jpg)[*Coleman Sundome Tent*](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004J2GUP4/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B004J2GUP4&linkId=90dc989d041b1b350246738a88d17a23) **Best For:** Car camping or backpacking, all weather conditions Dome tents consist of two poles which cross over each other to make the tent structure.  The ends of the poles go into the tent’s floor (or ground sheet).  This creates a free-standing structure which doesn’t need guylines or stakes to stay up.  A waterproof layer can go on top of this. They are very easy and quick to set up. The dome shape of the tent means wind can move over the tent easily.  Water will also fall off the tent instead of pooling on the top, so dome tents are great for bad weather.  Dome tents come in all sizes but larger dome tents don’t do as well in bad weather though. The downside of the dome shape is that the walls are curved.  Thus, the ceiling height will be low in many parts of the tent. ### **Pros:** - Freestanding - Easy setup - Only two poles - Good in wind and rain - Many sizes - Single or double layer ### **Cons:** - Limited interior space - Larger sizes aren’t as good in bad weather - No or small vestibule --- ## 2. Extended/Modified Dome Tents [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/modified-dome-tent-coleman-montana.jpg "modified dome tent coleman montana - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/modified-dome-tent-coleman-montana.jpg)*Dome tent extended to create more room [Coleman Montana tent](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001TSCF96/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B001TSCF96&linkId=ab69d71b1686d197b7651e4aa9c5e2b9)*[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/extended-tent-coleman-evanston.jpg "extended tent coleman evanston - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/extended-tent-coleman-evanston.jpg)*Dome tent extended to have a front patio area [Coleman Evanston tent](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004E4AW1K/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B004E4AW1K&linkId=147908ea7aa75369a61978f27fa47009)* **Best For:** Car camping or backpacking, usually 3-season conditions Extended dome tents use the criss-crossing pole design but they also have a curved pole (or poles) which extend off to the size.  This pole is often used to create a vestibule space in front of the tent. Two curved poles can also be added to each side of the dome to create a larger tent or even additional rooms.  The extended area is slanted though, so doesn’t give much extra interior space with headroom. The curved pole does need to be staked down, so the tent is only semi-freestanding.  However, it is still fairly easy to set up.  The design gives you much more space and versatility while still maintaining the benefits of a sturdy dome design. ### **Pros:** - Semi-Freestanding - Easy setup - Good in bad weather - Extra space or vestibule - Some have additional rooms - Single or double layer ### **Cons:** - Larger sizes aren’t as good in bad weather - Extended area has slanting roof --- ## 3. Tunnel Tents [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/tunnel-tent-vangooakmere.jpg "tunnel tent vango oakmere - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/tunnel-tent-vangooakmere.jpg)*[Vango Oakmere tunnel tent](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IGAQR3K/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00IGAQR3K&linkId=987660a79de0bda027aea5ab314345de)* **Best For:** Car camping in mild weather Tunnel tents are made up of two or more curved poles connected by the tent fabric.  The pole design creates a tunnel which has consistent overhead height.  Some tunnel tents have large storage areas in the middle with multiple rooms off to the side. In theory, there is no limit to how many poles a tunnel tent can have, so they come in many different sizes.  However, the design doesn’t usually make sense for more than 6 people.  With 6, you can have a patio in the middle and 3 people sleeping on each side. For more campers than this, you’d have to cram people into the end of the tunnel, meaning they would have to crawl over the other campers to get in/out. Assembling tunnel tents is usually pretty easy.  However, they are not freestanding and must be staked out.  This makes tunnel tents a bad choice for rocky ground or sandy soil.  You also have to be careful not to trip on the many guylines. It’s important to pay attention to wind direction when setting up a tunnel tent.  If the wind hits the tunnel straight-on, it can easily cause the tunnel to blow away.   Thus, tunnel tents aren’t recommended for windy weather. ### **Pros:** - Can have multiple rooms - Lots of storage space - Good headroom - Multiple layouts ### **Cons:** - Not freestanding - Not good for windy weather - Lots of guylines = tripping hazard --- ## 4.Cabin Tents [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/cabin-tent-coleman-tenaya-lake.jpg "cabin tent coleman tenaya lake - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/cabin-tent-coleman-tenaya-lake.jpg)*[Coleman cabin tent](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00J955FFW/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00J955FFW&linkId=fbcaf02780057581aec0f8c34f5359dd)* **Best For:** Family car camping or group camping These tents have vertical or near vertical walls, so they resemble a cabin when set up. The vertical walls mean the interior of the tent is very spacious and you have lots of headroom.  They are great for people who don’t want to hunch over in the tent or want to use a cot bed inside the tent Cabin tents come in various sizes, including sizes for large families and groups.   They sometimes have room dividers or even multiple rooms. The downside of cabin tents is that they are very big and bulky.  The huge footprint means you can’t pitch them just anywhere.  Pitching can be a pain too and usually requires multiple people. They aren’t freestanding and have to be carefully staked out with guylines.  You’ll probably need to bring a hammer to ensure the guylines are secure. Cabin tents are also not great against high winds.  Because most cabin tents are just one-layer, condensation can build up inside the tent and drip water on you while you sleep.  Because of these issues, cabin tents are mostly recommended for mild weather camping. ### **Pros:** - Spacious - Lots of headroom ### **Cons:** - Huge footprint - Heavy and bulky - Not great in bad weather - Lots of guylines= tripping hazard                                                 **Get the complete camping toolkit:** My dehydrator recipes ebook (50+ trail meals) + printable camping cheat sheets, bundled together for just $15. **[                                                                    Get the bundle & save $15 →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/Bundle)** --- ## 5.Geodesic or Semi-Geodesic Tents [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/geodesic-tent-nemo-chogori.jpg "geodesic tent nemo chogori - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/geodesic-tent-nemo-chogori.jpg)*Nemo Chogori geodesic tent* **Best For:** Expeditions, camping in winter or bad weather Geodesic tents consist of multiple poles which overlap each other.  The overlapping tent construction creates a very stable structure.  They are almost always freestanding. Geodesic tents are also usually a round shape as this allows rain, wind, and snow to go over the tent.  However, there are some other shapes of geodesic tents as well. The only real downside of geodesic tents is that they can be hard to set up.  It’s easy to get confused as to where the criss-crossing poles go. ### **Pros:** - Freestanding - Very sturdy - Withstands very bad weather - Suitable for winter camping ### **Cons:** - Not many options - Tend to be pricy - Difficult to pitch --- ## 6. Rooftop Tents [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/rooftop-tent-thule-tepui.jpg "rooftop tent thule tepui - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/rooftop-tent-thule-tepui.jpg)[*Thule Tepui Explorer rooftop tent*](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B084LN9V8Y/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B084LN9V8Y&linkId=43dfa270b3a98ef1aa43ddd0a2c46737) **Best For:** Road trips Rooftop tents are installed on top of your vehicle.  Depending on the type, you unfold, inflate, or pop-up the tent when you want to use it.  You use a ladder to climb into the tent. While mounting the tent to your car can be a pain, pitching rooftop tents is generally quick and easy.  You don’t have to worry about uneven ground or staking out the tent.   You can camp anywhere that you can park your vehicle. Rooftop tents aren’t for everyone though.  Small children or uneasy sleepers can fall out of rooftop tents.  They perform poorly in wind.  You’ve got to empty the tent and fold it away if you want to drive anywhere.  Most rooftop tents are also pretty pricy. ### **Pros:** - Freestanding or semi-freestanding - Can camp anywhere you can park - Flat sleeping surface - Quick and easy pitching ### **Cons:** - Need to be mounted - Expensive - Falling risk - Need to climb into the tent - Bad in windy weather - Expensive --- ## 7. Popup Tents [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/popup-tent-coleman.jpg "popup tent coleman - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/popup-tent-coleman.jpg)[*Coleman popup tent*](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FGPY9CE/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00FGPY9CE&linkId=963fa4447e875e65bf4747868a36980b) **Best For:** Beach camping, festivals Popup tents usually have one or two poles which are built into the tent fabric.  The poles are flexible and keep coiled up.  When you uncoil the tent, it pops into shape. While popup tents are ridiculously easy to set up, they have numerous downsides.  The main one is that they are unstable and will often even blow away in light winds.  Because they only have one layer, condensation is a huge problem with them.  They are also huge discs when stored and annoying to carry.  Because of these downsides, they only really make sense if you are beach camping in nice weather or for festivals. Read more about [why you shouldn’t buy popup tents](https://momgoescamping.com/pop-up-tents/). ### **Pros:** - Quick and easy setup ### **Cons:** - Easily blow away - One layer - Prone to condensation - Lack features like storage --- ## 8. Bivy Sacks [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/bivy-sack-outdoor-research-helium.jpg "bivy sack outdoor research helium - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/bivy-sack-outdoor-research-helium.jpg)*Outdoor Research Helium bivy sack* **Best For:** Ultralight backpacking, bike touring Bivy sacks (also called bivouac shelter, bivvy or bivi) are one-person minimalist shelters.  Some very simply bivy sacks are akin to waterproof bags with breathing holes.  Other types of bivy sacks use one or two hoops.  The hoops create a dome which keeps the bivy sack material off your body, which makes the bivy more comfortable to use. These shelters are incredibly lightweight, compact, and quick to set up.  This makes them popular for bike touring and ultralight backpacking (see these [affordable ultralight tents](https://momgoescamping.com/cheap-ultralight-tents/)). Breathability in bivy sacks is very bad.  When completely zipped up, condensation is almost inevitable.  You also can’t store much gear inside a bivy sack.  To solve these issues, a lot of people use bivy bags with a tarp shelter.  The tarp shelters gear and allows you to keep the bivy sack unzipped even in bad weather. ### **Pros:** - Fast and easy setup - Lightweight ### **Cons:** - Condensation - No storage space - Claustrophobic --- ## 9. Teepee/Pyramid Tents [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/teepee-tent-naturehike-tentoc.jpg "teepee tent naturehike tentoc - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/teepee-tent-naturehike-tentoc.jpg)*Naturehike Tentock trekking pole tent* **Best For:** Ultralight backpacking These simple tents consist of one pole in the center. The tent fabric (or tarp) goes over the pole and is staked out at the corners.  The benefit of having only one pole is that the tent becomes very lightweight.  Some pyramid tents can even be pithed with trekking poles.  See these [best trekking pole tents](https://momgoescamping.com/best-trekking-pole-tents/). However, outside of the ultralight backpacking community, pyramid tents are not at all popular.  The center pole makes for an awkward sleeping area.  The walls are very slanted, so the interior space is limited. They are also very unstable and often need lots of guylines. With just one layer, pyramid tents are prone to condensation. ### **Pros:** - Lightweight - Can use trekking pole to pitch ### **Cons:** - Unstable - Pole in middle of tent - Slanted tent walls - Very limited interior space - Often have condensation issues --- ## 10. A-Frame/Ridge Tents [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/a-frame-tent-paria-arches-1.jpg "a frame tent paria arches 1 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/a-frame-tent-paria-arches-1.jpg)*Paria Arches trekking pole tent* **Best For:** Ultralight backpacking These are the tent design that you might see in cowboy movies.  The construction involves at least two poles to support the front and back of the tent.  These poles are often connected by a center ridgeline pole.   The design means you have slanted walls. While more spacious than a pyramid tent, you still don’t get much headroom. Ridge tents are usually one-layer so condensation often occurs. They are somewhat difficult to pitch and sagging walls are almost inevitable. This means that rain or snow will pool on tent walls.  Most basic designs don’t handle wind very well either. Because of all of these issues, A-frame tents are rarely used anymore.  The exception is with ultralight backpackers who use A-frame designs for tarp shelters.  There are also some ultralight trekking pole tents which use the A-frame design. **Also read: [Best Ultralight Trekking Pole Tents](https://momgoescamping.com/best-trekking-pole-tents/)** ### **Pros:** - Some ultralight designs - Can use trekking poles to pitch ### **Cons:** - Not freestanding - Hard to pitch - Slanting walls - Limited headroom - Condensation ## Types of Camping Tents FAQ: #### What type of tent is best for beginners? A dome tent. Two crossing poles, freestanding, handles wind and rain well, and available in every price range. There’s a reason it’s the most common tent you’ll see at any campground. #### What is the best tent for a family? A cabin tent for car camping vertical walls give you real headroom and room to move around. If you want something that handles worse weather, an extended dome or geodesic tent in a larger size is sturdier. Avoid tunnel tents in exposed or windy sites. #### What’s the difference between a 3-season and 4-season tent? A 3-season tent handles spring, summer, and fall, rain, wind, and moderate cold. A 4-season (or winter) tent is built for snow load and extreme cold, usually with more poles and heavier fabric. Geodesic tents are the most common 4-season design. #### Are pop-up tents any good? For beach camping or festivals in calm weather, they’re fine. For any real camping — wind, rain, cold nights, they’re not. They blow away easily, have terrible condensation, and are annoying to pack down. A basic dome tent is better in almost every situation. #### What tent is best for backpacking? It depends on your priorities. For ultralight: pyramid/trekking pole tents or a bivy with a tarp. For comfort with reasonable weight: a lightweight geodesic or dome tent. For solo backpacking: a bivy or small A-frame. Tunnel tents and cabin tents are car-camping-only options. **Pin this!** [![types of tents infographic](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/types-of-tents-infographic.jpg "types-of-tents-infographic - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/types-of-tents-infographic.jpg) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** tents --- ### [How to Cook Over a Campfire: 12 Different Ways](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-cook-over-a-campfire/) **Published:** December 15, 2015 **Author:** Diane **Content:** After more than a decade of camping with my family and testing countless campfire cooking methods, I can confidently say that nothing beats the flavor and experience of cooking over an open flame. There’s something almost magical about gathering around a crackling fire, watching your meal slowly transform while breathing in that distinctive smoky aroma.But campfire cooking is more than just a fun camping activity—it’s a valuable survival skill that every outdoor enthusiast should master. During my early camping days, I learned this lesson the hard way when our camp stove ran out of fuel on a remote backcountry trip. Knowing how to cook over a campfire literally saved our meal (and our morale!).In this comprehensive guide, I’ll share 11 proven campfire cooking methods I’ve personally tested, along with the equipment you’ll need, safety considerations, and insider tips I’ve picked up from years of trial and error around countless campfires. ## Essential Safety Considerations Before You Start Before diving into cooking techniques, let’s talk safety—because nothing ruins a camping trip like an accident. During my years of campfire cooking, I’ve seen too many close calls that could have been easily prevented. **Fire Safety Basics:** - Always check local fire restrictions and obtain permits if required - Keep water or sand nearby for emergency fire suppression - Never leave a fire unattended, especially when cooking - Build fires only in designated areas or established fire rings - Clear the area around your fire of flammable materials (at least 10 feet radius) **Cooking Safety Tips:** - Use long-handled tools to avoid burns - Wear closed-toe shoes (never sandals around a fire) - Keep pot holders or heat-resistant gloves handy - Position yourself upwind when possible to avoid smoke - Test rock stability before using them as cooking supports ## Do You Need Special Equipment for Campfire Cooking? Here’s the honest answer: No, you don’t *need* specialized equipment to cook over a fire. Humans have been using fire to cook for over 2 million years, and many primitive methods still work beautifully today. That said, having the right equipment can transform your campfire cooking from a challenging chore into an enjoyable experience. After testing dozens of pieces of gear over the years, I’ve found that certain tools consistently make the difference between frustrating failures and delicious successes. **My Essential Campfire Cooking Kit:** - Cast iron skillet (my go-to for versatility) - Long-handled spatula and tongs - Heavy-duty aluminum foil - Wire grill rack (portable version) - Heat-resistant gloves - Sharp knife for prep work The complexity and size of your meals will determine how much equipment you’ll want. For simple meals like hot dogs or foil packets, basic tools suffice. But for elaborate Dutch oven feasts or multiple-course meals, specialized equipment becomes invaluable. ![Campfire cooking equipment set up at a campsite](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/campfire-cooking-set.jpg) *Image credit: “[camp cooking](https://www.flickr.com/photos/vastateparksstaff/29011577571/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [vastateparksstaff](https://www.flickr.com/people/vastateparksstaff/)* ## 11 Proven Methods for Cooking Over a Campfire Through years of experimentation (and quite a few burnt meals), I’ve refined these 11 campfire cooking techniques. Each method has its strengths, and I’ll help you choose the right one for your situation. ### 1. Grill Rack Method **Best for:** Burgers, steaks, vegetables, using pots and pans **Difficulty Level:** Beginner **My Rating:** ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ **Why I love this method:** The grill rack is my go-to for good reason—it’s incredibly versatile and forgiving. You can cook directly on the rack or use it as a platform for pots and pans. **Pros:** - Available at most established campsites - Works for direct grilling and pot support - Easy height adjustment by adding/removing wood - Familiar cooking method for most people **Cons:** - Gets dirty and requires cleaning - Can be heavy if you’re backpacking - May not fit larger pots **Pro Tips from Experience:** - Oil the rack before cooking to prevent sticking - Let your coals burn down before placing food—flames cause uneven cooking - Keep a small water bottle handy for flare-ups ![Food cooking on a grill rack over campfire coals](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/campfire-cooking-with-a-grill-rack.jpg) ### 2. Cooking Cranes **Best for:** Soups, stews, slow-cooked meals **Difficulty Level:** Intermediate **My Rating:** ⭐⭐⭐⭐ I discovered cooking cranes during a week-long canoe trip in the Boundary Waters, and they’ve become my favorite method for liquid-based meals. There’s something deeply satisfying about watching your pot gently simmer while suspended over glowing coals. **Essential Requirements:** - Pot with a bail handle (not insulated—it will melt!) - Sturdy forked stick or constructed crane - Secure anchoring point **How to Build a Reliable Crane:** 1. Find a green hardwood stick (3-4 feet long, thick as your thumb) 2. Secure one end under a heavy log or rock 3. Test the balance point before hanging your pot 4. Always use a backup support—I’ve seen too many dinners end up in the dirt! For solo camping, I recommend the [Toaks Titanium Cook Pot](https://amzn.to/36Zf60e) (750ml, 3.9oz)—it’s lightweight, durable, and has the perfect bail handle for crane cooking. ![Cooking pot suspended over campfire using wooden crane](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/14158180594_dae2f137ec_w.jpg) ![Close-up of campfire crane with notched wood construction](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/4621239246_c57833270f_c.jpg) ### 3. Cooking Tripods **Best for:** Large group meals, extended cooking times **Difficulty Level:** Intermediate **My Rating:** ⭐⭐⭐⭐ Tripods shine when you’re cooking for a crowd or preparing meals that need hours of slow cooking. I first used this method during a Boy Scout camping trip, and it’s remained my go-to for feeding large groups. **Setup Process:** 1. Select three sturdy poles of equal length (6-8 feet) 2. Lash them together at the top, leaving 2-3 feet of working height 3. Spread the legs evenly around your fire pit 4. Test stability before hanging any pots **Advantages over cranes:** - More stable for large, heavy pots - Easier height adjustment with adjustable chain or rope - Can accommodate multiple pots with extended setup For detailed construction instructions and safety tips, check out my complete [Guide to Campfire Cooking Tripods](https://momgoescamping.com/campfire-cooking-tripods/). ![Campfire cooking tripod setup with pot suspended over fire](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/cooking-tripod.jpg) ![Tripod cooking setup in wilderness setting](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/7566852782_d03bfdc633_c.jpg) ### 4. Cooking Stands (Rock/Log Method) **Best for:** Quick soups, boiling water **Difficulty Level:** Beginner **My Rating:** ⭐⭐⭐ This is often the first method newcomers try, and while it’s simple, it requires attention to avoid burnt food. I use this primarily for quick tasks like boiling water or heating canned soup. **Critical Safety Warning:** Never use rocks that have been in or near water—they can explode when heated! I’ve witnessed this firsthand, and it’s genuinely dangerous. Always use dry rocks from well away from any water source. **Best Practices:** - Use three points of support for maximum stability - Keep the pot close enough to the coals for heat, but not so close that the bottom burns - Stir frequently, especially with thick liquids - Always cook with a lid to prevent ash contamination ![Pot supported on rocks over campfire](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/cooking-stand.jpg) ![Campfire cooking setup using rocks as pot supports](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/campfire-cooking-rocks.jpg) ### 5. Trench Cooking **Best for:** Windy conditions, multiple pots **Difficulty Level:** Intermediate **My Rating:** ⭐⭐⭐⭐ I learned this technique from an old-timer during a particularly windy camping trip in Wyoming. When surface fires kept getting blown around, he showed me how to dig down and create a controlled cooking environment. **Construction Steps:** 1. Dig a trench 6-8 inches deep, 12 inches wide, and as long as needed 2. Build your fire in the trench and let it burn down to coals 3. Place green hardwood branches across the trench as pot supports 4. Set your pots on the branches **Why This Method Works:** - Wind protection keeps heat consistent - Multiple cooking stations in one setup - More efficient fuel use - Easier to control temperature **Important Considerations:** - Check local regulations—some areas prohibit ground disturbance - Always fill in your trench when breaking camp - Ensure proper ventilation to prevent carbon monoxide buildup ### 6. Frying Rock Method **Best for:** Fish, thin steaks, bacon **Difficulty Level:** Advanced **My Rating:** ⭐⭐⭐ **Important Safety Warning:** This is the most dangerous method on this list. I include it for completeness, but I strongly recommend having significant campfire experience before attempting it. I first tried this method during a fishing trip in Montana, and while it worked, the risks make me hesitant to recommend it for casual campers. **Critical Rock Selection Rules:** - Never, ever use rocks from in or near water sources - Choose dense, non-porous rocks (granite is best) - Avoid rocks with visible cracks or layering - Test heat the rock gradually—sudden temperature changes can cause explosions **If you decide to try this method:** 1. Find a large, flat rock meeting the safety criteria above 2. Build a fire underneath and heat the rock slowly over 30-45 minutes 3. Stay at least 25 feet away during initial heating 4. Oil your food, not the rock (the oil will absorb too quickly) 5. Have an exit strategy and first aid supplies ready ### 7. Coal Roasting (Ember Cooking) **Best for:** Foil packets, potatoes, corn on the cob **Difficulty Level:** Beginner **My Rating:** ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ This is hands-down the easiest and most foolproof method for beginners. I’ve taught this technique to countless novice campers, and it rarely fails to produce delicious results. **The Secret to Success:** Patience and lots of coals. Many people rush this process, but the slow, gentle heat is what makes food incredibly tender and flavorful. **My Go-To Coal Roasting Process:** 1. Build a substantial fire and keep feeding it for at least 45 minutes 2. Let it burn down until you have a thick bed of glowing coals 3. Push coals aside to create a cooking area 4. Place foil-wrapped food directly on the coals 5. Cover with more coals for even heat distribution 6. Be patient—most foods take 30-60 minutes depending on size **Foil Packet Pro Tips:** - Use heavy-duty aluminum foil (or double-wrap with regular foil) - Leave some space in packets for steam circulation - Add a splash of liquid (broth, wine, or water) to prevent drying - Seal edges tightly but allow for expansion **Foods that work great in coals:** - Whole potatoes (wrap in foil, 45-60 minutes) - Corn on the cob (husks on or foil-wrapped, 20-30 minutes) - Fish fillets with vegetables (foil packets, 15-25 minutes) - Root vegetables (carrots, onions, beets in foil, 30-45 minutes) ![Using sticks to turn food over campfire coals](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/4031386813_91b80b17b1_c.jpg) ### 8. Skewer Cooking **Best for:** Kebabs, hot dogs, marshmallows **Difficulty Level:** Beginner **My Rating:** ⭐⭐⭐⭐ Skewer cooking is where I started my campfire journey as a kid, and it remains one of the most enjoyable methods. There’s something primal and satisfying about cooking food on a stick over an open fire. **Choosing the Right Skewers:** - **Store-bought:** Long metal skewers with wooden handles work best - **Natural:** Green hardwood sticks (avoid pine or other resinous woods) - **Length:** Minimum 2 feet long to keep your hands safe from heat **Food Preparation Tips:** - Cut ingredients into uniform sizes for even cooking - Marinate meats beforehand for better flavor - Alternate dense and soft ingredients (meat, pepper, onion, tomato) - Soak wooden skewers in water for 30 minutes to prevent burning **Cooking Technique:** - Hold skewers 6-8 inches above glowing coals - Rotate frequently for even cooking - Don’t rush—slow cooking prevents tough, overcooked exteriors - Test doneness with a meat thermometer when possible ![Vegetable and meat skewers cooking over campfire](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/skewers.jpg) ![Fish cooking on skewers over open fire](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/skewered-fish.jpg) ### 9. Spit Roasting **Best for:** Whole chickens, large roasts, special occasions **Difficulty Level:** Advanced **My Rating:** ⭐⭐⭐ Spit roasting is the ultimate campfire showstopper, but it requires commitment and attention. I reserve this method for special occasions when I have several hours and want to create a memorable experience. **What Works Best:** - Whole chickens or ducks (2-4 lbs) - Pork shoulders or beef roasts (cylindrical shapes) - Leg of lamb - Large fish (whole salmon or similar) **Essential Equipment:** - Sturdy metal spit rod - Two forked supports or a rotisserie setup - Large, sustained fire - Meat thermometer - Basting brush **Key Success Factors:** - Maintain consistent heat—this requires constant fire tending - Rotate regularly (every 15-20 minutes minimum) - Position the spit 12-18 inches from the fire - Plan for 20-30 minutes per pound of meat - Use a drip pan to catch juices for basting ### 10. Grill Basket Method **Best for:** Fish fillets, vegetables, delicate foods **Difficulty Level:** Beginner **My Rating:** ⭐⭐⭐⭐ Grill baskets solve the frustrating problem of delicate foods falling apart or through grill grates. I discovered their value when trying to cook flaky fish over a campfire—game changer! **What Makes This Method Special:** - Keeps delicate foods intact during cooking - Easy flipping without food falling apart - Perfect for small or irregularly shaped items - Great for making campfire toast **Best Practices:** - Preheat the basket over coals for 2-3 minutes - Oil the basket interior before adding food - Don’t overcrowd—food needs space for even cooking - Keep moving—stationary baskets can burn food quickly - Use medium coals, not blazing hot ones **Foods that work great in grill baskets:** - Fish fillets (salmon, trout, bass) - Sliced vegetables (zucchini, eggplant, peppers) - Small items (mushrooms, cherry tomatoes) - Bread for toast - Quesadillas or grilled sandwiches ### 11. Cast Iron Cooking **Best for:** Everything! Versatility champion **Difficulty Level:** Intermediate **My Rating:** ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Cast iron has revolutionized my campfire cooking more than any other single piece of equipment. Yes, it’s heavy, but the versatility and heat retention make it worth every ounce when car camping. **Why Cast Iron Excels for Campfire Cooking:** - Can go directly on coals or in flames without damage - Excellent heat retention and even distribution - Naturally non-stick when properly seasoned - Improves with age and use - Available in numerous forms (skillets, Dutch ovens, griddles) **Essential Cast Iron Pieces for Campfire Cooking:** - **10-12 inch skillet:** Perfect for most meals - **Dutch oven:** Ideal for stews, bread, and large meals - **Griddle:** Great for breakfast foods **Cast Iron Campfire Techniques:** - **Direct coal contact:** Place directly on coals for high heat searing - **Elevated cooking:** Use on grill grates for more controlled heat - **Oven method:** Cover Dutch ovens with coals for baking **Maintenance Tips for Camping:** - Clean while still warm (easier to remove stuck food) - Dry completely and apply thin oil layer - Store in a dry place to prevent rust - Don’t use soap—hot water and scraping work fine ### 12. Dutch Oven Mastery **Best for:** Stews, bread, casseroles, group meals **Difficulty Level:** Intermediate to Advanced **My Rating:** ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Dutch oven cooking deserves special mention because it opens up a world of possibilities that no other campfire method can match. I’ve baked cinnamon rolls, roasted whole chickens, and made elaborate stews that rival anything from a home kitchen. **Understanding Coal Management:** The key to Dutch oven success is understanding the “Rule of 3s” for coal distribution: - **For baking:** 2/3 of coals on top, 1/3 on bottom - **For roasting:** 1/2 on top, 1/2 on bottom - **For stewing/boiling:** Most coals on bottom, few or none on top **Temperature Control Guide:** - **High heat (450°F+):** Coals touching pot bottom and lid - **Medium heat (350°F):** Coals 1-2 inches from pot - **Low heat (250°F):** Coals 3-4 inches away **My Favorite Dutch Oven Recipes:** - Campfire chili (4-6 hours low and slow) - No-knead bread (90 minutes with proper coal management) - Whole roasted chicken with vegetables (2-3 hours) - Beef stew (3-4 hours) - Peach cobbler (perfect camping dessert!) ![Cast iron Dutch oven with coals on top and bottom](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/coals-on-cast-iron-cookware.jpg) ![Fresh baked bread in cast iron Dutch oven](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/bread-in-cast-iron-cookware.jpg) ## Expert Tips for Campfire Cooking Success After thousands of campfire meals and learning from plenty of mistakes, these are the insights that separate great campfire cooks from frustrated beginners: ### Master Your Fire Management **Cook Over Coals, Not Flames** This is the most important lesson I can share. Flames create uneven, unpredictable heat that will burn your food’s exterior while leaving the interior raw. Instead, build your fire 45-60 minutes before you plan to cook, then let it burn down to a bed of glowing coals. **The Coal Test:** Hold your hand 6 inches above the coals. If you can hold it there for: - 2-3 seconds = High heat (perfect for searing) - 4-5 seconds = Medium heat (ideal for most cooking) - 6-8 seconds = Low heat (great for slow cooking) **Build More Coals Than You Think You Need** Novice campfire cooks consistently underestimate the coal requirements. For a substantial meal, I build a fire in a pit at least 2 feet across and keep feeding it for an hour before cooking. You can always move excess coals aside, but you can’t instantly create more heat. ### Preparation is Everything **Do Your Prep Work at Home** Campfire cooking is challenging enough without trying to dice vegetables in poor light with limited workspace. At home, I pre-cut vegetables, marinate meats, and even pre-cook items like bacon that I’ll crisp up over the fire. **Test Your Setup Before Cooking** Before you light any fire, set up your cooking apparatus and test pot heights, stability, and accessibility. An inch or two difference in pot height can mean the difference between perfectly cooked food and burnt disappointment. ### Temperature Control Techniques **Create Heat Zones** Don’t distribute your coals evenly. Create areas of high, medium, and low heat so you can move food around as needed. This technique has saved countless meals when things were cooking too fast or too slow. **Use the “Hand Test” Regularly** Fire temperatures change constantly as coals burn down. I check heat levels every 15-20 minutes and adjust accordingly by adding fresh coals or moving food to different zones. ### Safety and Cleanup **Have an Exit Strategy** Always have a plan for quickly removing food from heat if things go wrong. Keep long-handled tools within reach, and know where your water source is located. I’ve prevented many potential disasters by being able to quickly move a pot off the fire when things started burning. **Clean as You Go** Campfire cooking creates more mess than kitchen cooking, and cleaning burnt-on food from cast iron by flashlight is no fun. Clean pots while they’re still warm, and keep a dedicated cleanup station with soap, scrubbers, and towels. ### Weather Considerations **Wind Management** Wind can make campfire cooking incredibly frustrating, blowing ash into your food and making temperature control nearly impossible. On windy days, I prefer trench cooking or find natural windbreaks. Never cook in high winds—it’s a safety hazard. **Rain Contingency** Have a backup plan for cooking in wet weather. A well-constructed tarp shelter can allow continued campfire cooking, but sometimes discretion is the better part of valor. This is why I always pack a reliable camp stove as backup. ## Essential Equipment Recommendations Based on years of testing gear in real camping conditions, here are my tried-and-true equipment recommendations: ### Must-Have Basic Kit - **Cast Iron Skillet (10-12 inch):** Lodge makes reliable, affordable options - **Long-handled tools:** Spatula, tongs, and large spoon (minimum 15-inch handles) - **Heavy-duty aluminum foil:** Reynolds Wrap Heavy Duty is worth the extra cost - **Heat-resistant gloves:** Leather welding gloves work great and are inexpensive - **Sharp knife:** A good 6-8 inch chef’s knife makes prep work manageable - **Cutting board:** Lightweight plastic or bamboo option ### Advanced Additions - **Dutch Oven:** 12-inch Lodge cast iron with legs and flanged lid - **Tripod setup:** Either build your own or buy a commercial camping tripod - **Grill baskets:** Multiple sizes for different foods - **Instant-read thermometer:** Essential for food safety with thicker cuts - **Chimney starter:** For quick coal production when car camping ## Common Mistakes to Avoid Learn from my errors so you don’t have to repeat them: ### Fire Management Mistakes - **Starting to cook too early:** Wait for proper coals, not just flames - **Not building enough fire:** Better to have too much heat than too little - **Using the wrong wood:** Softwoods like pine create too much smoke and can impart bad flavors - **Adding fresh wood while cooking:** This creates smoke and uneven temperatures ### Food Safety Issues - **Not checking internal temperatures:** Especially critical for poultry and pork - **Cross-contamination:** Use separate utensils for raw and cooked foods - **Leaving food in the danger zone:** Keep hot foods hot and cold foods cold ### Equipment Problems - **Using pots with plastic handles:** They will melt near campfires - **Forgetting pot holders:** Cast iron handles get extremely hot - **Not securing cooking setups:** Test stability before adding food ## Menu Planning for Campfire Success The key to successful campfire cooking starts with choosing the right foods for the method. Here’s how I approach menu planning: ### Day 1: Keep It Simple Start with forgiving foods while you get your fire management down: - Hot dogs and burgers (hard to mess up) - Foil packet vegetables - Pre-cooked items that just need reheating ### Day 2-3: Build Complexity Once you’re comfortable with your setup: - One-pot meals like chili or stew - Skewer cooking with marinated meats - Simple Dutch oven bread ### Advanced Meals For experienced campfire cooks: - Multi-course meals using different cooking methods - Whole roasted chickens or large cuts of meat - Complex baked goods like cinnamon rolls or pizza ## Troubleshooting Common Problems When things go wrong (and they will), here’s how to recover: ### Food Burning - **Immediate action:** Move pot/pan away from heat source - **For liquids:** Don’t stir—this distributes the burnt flavor - **Prevention:** Create heat zones and move food as needed ### Uneven Cooking - **Cause:** Usually flames instead of coals, or inadequate coal bed - **Solution:** Spread coals more evenly, rotate food regularly - **Quick fix:** Cover partially cooked areas with foil ### Food Taking Too Long - **Check coal temperature:** May need to add more fuel - **Consider altitude:** Higher elevations require longer cooking times - **Wind factor:** Strong winds can significantly increase cooking times ## Why You Should Always Bring a Backup Stove While campfire cooking is incredibly rewarding, it’s not always practical or possible. Here’s when you’ll be grateful for that camp stove backup: - **Fire restrictions:** Many areas ban open fires during dry seasons - **Weather conditions:** Rain, high winds, or extreme cold can make campfire cooking dangerous or impossible - **Time constraints:** Sometimes you just need to cook quickly - **Fuel shortages:** Dry wood isn’t always available, especially in popular camping areas - **Early morning cooking:** Building a fire for coffee at 6 AM isn’t always appreciated by fellow campers I always pack a reliable two-burner camp stove and enough fuel for all my meals. The campfire cooking is a bonus when conditions are right, not a necessity for meal preparation. ## Final Thoughts: Embrace the Learning Process Campfire cooking is as much about the journey as the destination. Some of my best camping memories involve slightly burnt meals that we laughed about around the fire afterward. Don’t expect perfection from your first attempts—even experienced cooks have disasters when trying new techniques or dealing with challenging conditions. Start simple, be patient with yourself, and focus on safety above all else. The skills you develop will serve you well for years of outdoor adventures, and the confidence that comes from being able to prepare a great meal over an open fire is incredibly rewarding. Most importantly, remember that campfire cooking is about more than just preparing food. It’s about slowing down, connecting with nature, and sharing experiences with the people around you. Even the simplest meal tastes better when it’s cooked over a fire you built yourself, shared with people you care about, under a sky full of stars. ## What’s Your Experience? I’d love to hear about your campfire cooking adventures! What methods have you tried? What disasters have you learned from? Share your experiences in the comments below—we all learn from each other’s successes and failures around the campfire. **Want gourmet meals on the trail?** My dehydrator recipes ebook has 50+ calorie-dense backpacking recipes — just add hot water. **[Get it here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck)** ![Collection of dehydrator backpacking recipes from the cookbook](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/gallery.jpg) Happy camping, and remember—the best meals are the ones shared with good company around a crackling fire! ## Campfire Cooking FAQ: #### Do you cook over flames or coals? Coals. Flames create uneven, too-hot heat that burns the outside while leaving the inside raw. Build your fire 45 to 60 minutes before you want to eat, let it burn down to a glowing bed of coals, then start cooking. This is the single most important thing to get right. #### How do I control the temperature when cooking over a campfire? Use the hand test: hold your palm 6 inches above the coals. If you can hold it there for 2 to 3 seconds, that’s high heat (searing). Four to 5 seconds is medium (most cooking). Six to 8 seconds is low (slow cooking). Create different heat zones by spreading coals unevenly, and move food between zones as needed. #### What type of pan is best for campfire cooking? Cast iron. It handles direct flame and coal contact, retains heat evenly, and improves with use. A 10 or 12-inch skillet covers most meals; add a Dutch oven when you want to bake or make big-batch stews. Avoid any pan with plastic or rubber handles, they melt. #### Is campfire cooking safe? Yes, with preparation. Check fire restrictions before you go, always cook over established fire rings, keep water nearby, and never leave a fire unattended. The most dangerous mistakes are using wet rocks as pot supports (they can crack or explode) and cooking in high wind. #### Can you cook without any special equipment? Yes. You can boil water on rock supports, cook foil packets directly in coals, and roast food on green hardwood sticks with zero gear. That said, a grill rack and some cast iron make the experience significantly easier and more reliable, worth packing for car camping. Read more about delicious easy to make camping treats below! - [Campfire Desserts](https://momgoescamping.com/campfire-desserts/) - [How to Make Campfire S’mores Without Sticks](https://momgoescamping.com/make-smores-without-sticks/) - [Camping Breakfast Recipes](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-breakfast-recipes/) --- **Image credits:** [Richard Wasserman](https://www.flickr.com/photos/richard_wasserman/) [Cooking Fire Inside Dani Hut](https://www.flickr.com/photos/richard_wasserman/5711370757/in/photolist-9GGgxB-bw3ZQV-7MGJ3c-e4fwsQ-AD1Bdn-aUM9ZV-jD1iY-jD1jR-jCZJe-6TNw1o-aeN1Xi-4mSuo3-6TNxTm-6TJwvi-gTSgma-bdpAqz-8nCthU-86Wqz3-86X847-86Wq7f-86TVXV-86TVKx-ebREi-eniK2-kyaSp-86WErE-7GESeC-g) [CC BY NC ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/), Found on Flickr [Luke and Kate Bosman](https://www.flickr.com/photos/lukebosman/) 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cake](https://www.flickr.com/photos/vastateparksstaff/29011550081/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [vastateparksstaff](https://www.flickr.com/people/vastateparksstaff/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Food **Tags:** campfire, cooking --- ### [30+ Zero-Prep Camping Activities for Kids](https://momgoescamping.com/activities-entertain-kids-camping/) **Published:** September 29, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Are you planning a camping trip with your kids and are wondering how the heck you will keep them entertained without Wifi, screens, and a mountain of toys? As a mother who goes camping with my two kids often, trust me: *You are underestimating your kids’ ability to entertain themselves – especially when allowed to explore unhindered in nature.* ## Do You Really Need Camping Activities for Your Kids? Today’s parents are under huge pressure to organize activities for their children.  We need to enroll them in extracurriculars so they develop life skills. Shuttle them to the zoo, science museums, botanical gardens so they can learn things which aren’t covered in the school curriculum…. All these activities supposedly show that we are “good” parents. But all this structured play may do [more harm than good](https://psychcentral.com/news/2018/05/15/too-many-extracurricular-activities-for-kids-may-do-more-harm-than-good/135388.html). It’s why [kids have forgotten how to play](https://www.todaysparent.com/family/my-kids-forgot-how-to-play/).  And, since kids aren’t used to coming up with their own activities, it’s no surprise they ask for screen time the moment an activity ends. ### Let Your Children Get Bored Instead of constantly coming up with activities for your kids, you should let your kids get bored. Research increasingly shows that **boredom is incredibly beneficial for children’s development**. The main benefit of boredom is that it stimulates imagination. ([1](https://www.lifehack.org/419154/children-develop-better-when-you-let-them-be-bored-psychologists-say), [2](https://www.theschoolrun.com/benefits-of-boredom-for-kids)) As researcher Sandi Mann said to [Time](https://time.com/5480002/benefits-of-boredom/), boredom is “a search for neural stimulation that isn’t satisfied. If we can’t find that, our mind will create it.” **Simply put, let your children get bored and they will come up with their own games to play.** This in turn has numerous other benefits.  Bored children are better at taking initiative and solving problems.  They also learn self-control and are less likely to turn to drugs, alcohol, gambling and other addictions for stimulation. ([3](https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/science-choice/202004/5-benefits-boredom)) ### Your Kids Will Find Fun Camping Activities On their Own I’m not saying that you shouldn’t bring some activities or entertainment for your kids on the camping trip.  Just make sure you leave plenty of time for “doing nothing.”   It is during this unstructured play time that your children will find what truly interests them. ## What Toys to Bring Camping? Most kids’ toys are designed to be one specific thing.  It’s hard to get creative with these toys: *A car is only a car.  A tea set only a tea set.*  By contrast, open-ended toys are more ambiguous and can be used in multiple ways. Nature is full of open-ended toys. A stick can be used as a sword, to make dolls, as a baseball bat…  You’ll be surprised at what your kids come up with if you just let them play. Other than a stuffed animal or two, I don’t let my kids bring toys on camping trips. Instead, we pack some open-ended camping toys.  Most are actually more akin to supplies than toys, such as rope, shovels, and buckets. [This kit](https://amzn.to/348f8Cr) shown below has lots of cool things in it to stimulate outdoor exploring. [![Kidz Xplore Outdoor Explorer Set - Bug Catching Kit Nature Exploration Children Outdoor Games Mini Binoculars Kids, Compass, Whistle, Magnifying Glass, Adventure, Hunting, Hiking Educational Toy](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51+2e4OaEpL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QLXTQJF?tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) **Need ideas? See this list of [the best camping toys which will actually help your kids connect with nature](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-toys/).** ### But Please Don’t Bring Screens! **If you bring screens, your kids will want to use them**.  They will whine, beg, and annoy you until you give in. But, if you leave the screens at home, they will find other ways to entertain themselves. Even better, choose a campsite without electricity or Wifi so screens simply aren’t an option.  Then *you* and your kids won’t be tempted to endlessly scroll instead of enjoying the nature around you. ## 30+ Ways to Entertain Your Kids While Camping Here are some ways that my kids have entertained themselves while camping.  All of these camping activities require ZERO prep and most can be done with just supplies from nature. ### 1. Build a Fort There must be something in our DNA which makes kids love to build forts.  Try to let your kids build the fort on their own, according to their own plan.  If they ask for advice, then teach them about the types of wilderness shelters – like the A-frame and teepee shelters. ![building a fort with kids camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/DSCF3180-min.jpg "building a fort with kids camping - Mom Goes Camping") ### 2. Searching for Insects I’m love insects (especially beetles) and am a complete nerd about them.  Since I never told my kids that insects are “gross” or “dirty”, they too love insects.  We always have fun searching for insects while camping.  It’s pretty easy: Just lift up dead logs or rocks to see which insects are underneath.  Though please do be careful about lifting rocks [when in snake country](https://momgoescamping.com/what-to-do-if-you-see-a-snake/)! Check out these [photos of cool insects](https://momgoescamping.com/insects-evolution/)**.** And [this insect book](https://amzn.to/3kY9E4g) is awesome. ### 3. Nature Dolls Acorn tops, beech nut shells, and a lot of flowers look like hats or skirts. My kids and I have fun turning these into finger puppets or making little dolls out of them. ![camping activities nature crafts](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/beech-nut-people-min.jpg "beech nut people-min - Mom Goes Camping") ### 4. Decorating Rocks Bring some markers, paint, or nail polish and start decorating rocks. You can also use charcoal from the previous night’s campfire to draw on rocks (see #10) ### 5. Rock Installations Here’s a camping activity for older kids – have fun making a rock installation artwork a la [Andy Goldsworthy](https://www.boredpanda.com/land-art-andy-goldsworthy). ![rock art installation camping activity](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/8.jpg "8 - Mom Goes Camping") ### 6. Nature Collection Kids have a natural inclination to collect things.  Give them collection bags and designate a place for them to display their collection. ![nature collection camping activity](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/collection.jpg "collection - Mom Goes Camping") ### 7. Building a Campfire One of the best parts of camping is making a campfire.  Let your kids get involved.   Simply gathering the firewood will keep them entertained for at least 30 minutes (though admittedly my daughter stopped wanting to help with this task after the umpteenth camping trip). Don’t stop there though. Show them how to build a campfire.  Remember that there are actually numerous [**different campfire lays**](https://momgoescamping.com/fire-lays/).  Start with the teepee lay and then show them other cool ones like a pyramid or star lay.                                                    **Get the complete camping toolkit:** My dehydrator recipes ebook (50+ trail meals) + printable camping cheat sheets, bundled together for just $15. **[                                                                    Get the bundle& save $15 →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/Bundle)** ### 8. Dissecting Flowers This is a favorite camping activity of my 2 year old and, even as an adult, I enjoy it too.  We find cool flower buds and tear them open.  It’s actually pretty exciting to see what’s inside.  Some plants have curled up flowers.  Others have large pearl-like seeds.  Others have hundreds of tiny seeds which blow away in the wind. \*Don’t do this when camping somewhere with vulnerable flora. Many national and state parks prohibit you from picking or damaging flora in any way. ![flower exploration camping activity](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/capsules-87113_640.jpg "capsules-87113_640 - Mom Goes Camping") ### 9. First Aid Bandaging I always bring a first aid kit on camping trips (see the checklist [here](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-first-aid-checklist/)).  My daughter love playing with the Ace bandage.  She pretends her stuffed animal got injured and wraps it up.  When she got a bit older, I taught her how to wrap a sprained ankle and even how to splint a leg.  Not only does she have fun wrapping pretend injuries, but she’s actually learning valuable first aid skills. ![camping activity first aid](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/first-aid-fun-camping.jpg "first aid fun camping - Mom Goes Camping") ### 10. Charcoal Drawing Once last night’s campfire has completely cooled down, grab some charcoal from it and let  your kids draw with it.  Yes, their hands will get messy. 🙂  Luckily charcoal doesn’t stain. ![camping activity for kids drawing with charcoal from fire](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/drawing-with-charcoal.jpg "drawing with charcoal - Mom Goes Camping") ### 11. Gathering Berries/Foraging Both my two-year old and 10-year old love gathering berries.  They could spend all day doing it.  Just make sure you give them a talk about foraging safety before they start.  In other words, make sure they know that they should never eat a plant unless they are 100% sure of what it is. ### 12. Make Boats Here’s a fun STEM camping activity.  Have your kids build boats out of sticks and leaves, using pieces of grass to tie the parts together or mud as “mortar.”  Then have them float their boats down a stream. ### 13. Catching Animals One of the reasons I love camping near water is you can usually find some creatures like frogs, newts, or water beetles to catch.   Give your children a bowl and some cups and they will be entertained for hours.   Below is an “ecosystem” my daughter caught from a lake on one camping trip. ![camping activities animals](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/IMG_6897.jpg "IMG_6897 - Mom Goes Camping") ### 14. Insect Catching and Collecting I had an insect collection when I was a kid, so I wasn’t surprised when my daughter said she wanted to start one too.  We bring specimen containers camping so she can collect and take home cool dead insects we find.   Of course, you could just bring a net to catch and release live insects too. [![camping activity insect collection](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/DX307604-min.jpg "DX307604-min - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/DX307604-min.jpg) ### 15. Mud Sculptures Clay is just a really nice type of mud.  There’s no reason your kids shouldn’t use it to make cool sculptures.  Let the sculptures dry in the sun. Or, if you are lucky enough to have really good clay soil at the campground, you might be able to harden them in the campfire. Worried about all that mud?  Here are [6 reasons you should let your kids get dirty](https://momgoescamping.com/let-kids-get-dirty/). ### 16. Scavenger Hunt It’s very easy to make your own camping scavenger hunt.  Some items you can include are: - Something purple - Beetle - Tree with smooth bark - Y-shaped stick - Bird - Mushroom - Moss - Animal tracks - Red leaf - Berries - Blooming flower ### 17. Pressing Flowers Assuming that you aren’t in a fragile ecosystem where picking flowers isn’t allowed, making wildflower bouquets is great fun.  My daughter and I press them in her notebook.  Several of the pressed bouquets are now framed in our living room. ### 18. Card Games A deck of cards is great to bring camping (especially for [rainy days](https://momgoescamping.com/what-to-do-when-it-rains-when-camping/)). Cards are small, compact, and there are dozens of games you can play with a standard deck. ### 19. Orienteering Treasure Hunt Orienteering is a sport where you have to find locations on a map in the fastest amount of time.  You can make your own orienteering course: just hang some treats around the campsite and mark them on the map.  Better yet, let your kids make a treasure map that you have to follow. Your kids will have fun and also learn how to read a map. ### 20. Bucket Games One of my go-to forms of camping entertainment for my toddler is buckets of water.  I simply fill a few buckets with water, give her some spoons and cups, and she has fun pouring water from one bucket to the next.   This is a super-easy camping activity and also works for at home too. For older kids, you can use buckets for other games, like: - Bucket ball toss - Fill the bucket game using water and sponges (see instructions [here](https://momgoescamping.com/activities-entertain-kids-camping/)) - Mixing mud to make mud pies ![bucket games camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/DX307916-min.jpg "DX307916-min - Mom Goes Camping") ### 21. Rock Bowling My daughter made up this game on a camping trip when she was 6.  She set up a bunch of small rocks on top of a larger rock sticking out of the ground.  Then she stood back and tried to knock the rocks off with another rock (obviously making sure there was no one around to hit).  Some other kids saw her playing and immediately joined in. ![rock bowling game camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/11-min.jpg "11-min - Mom Goes Camping") ### 22. Exquisite Corpse Drawing Game This is a game that my daughter and I play on camping trips and also when traveling.  It was equally fun when she was 4 as it is now that she’s 10. You take a piece of paper and the first person draws a head with neck, making sure the second person doesn’t see it.  Then they fold the paper down so the head is hidden but just a bit of the neck is exposed.   The second person then draws a body connected to the neck and folds down the paper, leaving just a bit of the body exposed.  The final person draws the legs.  You open up the paper to see your funny drawing. ### 23. Cleaning Up Litter Show your kids some before/after photos from litter challenges to motivate them.  Then put on some gloves, grab trash bags, and spend an hour doing something good for nature by cleaning up trash. ### 24. UpCycle with Trash Unfortunately, there is often a lot of trash around campsites.  Sometimes my daughter and I will make cool stuff out of the trash – like when we made this bunny sculpture from random stuff we found on a beach camping trip. ![crafts camping activity upcycle](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/IMG_5635-min.jpg "IMG_5635-min - Mom Goes Camping") ### 25. Slackline Slacklines are a lot of fun and are great for improving balance, posture, concentration and focus.  Plus, it’s a good way for your kids to befriend other kids at the campground: as soon as you put up the slackline, a line of kids will appear wanting to try it! ![slackline camping activity for kids](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/IMG_5615-min.jpg "IMG_5615-min - Mom Goes Camping") ### 26. Light Painting Photography Wait until nighttime, put the camera on a low shutter speed, and start taking photos as you wave flashlights around.    It’s also fun to do with sparklers.  This is a good one to add to your kids’ [memory books](https://www.mixbook.com/l/memory-books). ![light painting photography while camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/light-painting-1674627_640-min.jpg "light painting while camping - Mom Goes Camping") ### 27. DIY Obstacle Course You probably won’t have to make this.  Rather, your kids will see a bunch of rocks in a stream and try to hop on them to the other side.  Or they will see a fallen log and try to balance walk across it.  Your job is to step back and let them do this – even if it might mean they occasionally fall into the water (bring spare shoes or have them go barefoot!). ![DIY obstacle course when camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/DX308531-min.jpg "DX308531-min - Mom Goes Camping") ### 28. Jumping in Leaves Playing in leaves is a great fall camping activity. No, you don’t have to bring a rake camping.  Just gather up some long branches and use them as a broom to sweep up a big pile of leaves.  Then have fun jumping in it with your kids. ### 29. Snowmen or Mud Men In the photos below, we got some snow on a camping trip in May.  It wasn’t enough to make large snowmen, but we did make these fun snow creatures.  You could also easily do something like this with mud, rocks, or other nature items. [![snow nature creature](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/4-min.jpg "nature creature - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/4-min.jpg) [![snow nature creature](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/3-min.jpg "3-min - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/3-min.jpg) ### 30. Daisy Chains Teach your kids how to make daisy chains.  Then take it a step further and see how many other natural items can be braided and twisted into crowns or hair decorations. ### 31. Make Mini Log Cabins On one beach camping trip, my daughter (then 5 years old) made little “cabins” out of sticks. The sticks poking up off to the side are the “people” who live there. ![nature crafts log cabin activity](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/IMG_3272.jpg "nature crafts - Mom Goes Camping") ## Camping Activities for Kids FAQ: #### How do you keep kids entertained while camping? Mostly, you don’t, nature does. Give kids unstructured time and basic open-ended supplies (buckets, rope, a shovel, a magnifying glass) and they’ll invent their own games with sticks, rocks, water, and mud. Your job is stepping back, not programming every hour. #### What should I bring to entertain kids at a campsite? Skip regular toys and bring open-ended supplies: buckets and cups, a deck of cards, collection bags, markers for rock decorating, a bug jar, and maybe a slackline. A stuffed animal or two for bedtime is the exception. Leave the screens at home entirely — if they come, they’ll get asked for. #### What can toddlers do while camping? Buckets of water with cups and spoons is the reliable one — easily an hour of pouring. Beyond that: collecting rocks and sticks, digging with a small shovel, picking apart flowers, gathering berries with supervision, and “helping” with camp tasks. Toddlers need less entertainment at a campsite than anywhere else. #### Is it OK to let kids get bored while camping? It’s better than OK, boredom is where the good stuff starts. Research consistently links unstructured boredom to imagination, initiative, and problem-solving. Give kids twenty minutes of “I’m bored” at a campsite and most will have invented a game before you’ve finished your coffee. #### What camping activities work on rainy days? Card games in the tent, exquisite corpse drawing, first aid bandaging practice on stuffed animals, and — if you’ve embraced it, mud sculptures and puddle play in rain gear. Rain changes the activity list; it doesn’t have to end it. I know these aren’t the most Instagram-worthy camping activities.  But it goes to show that you don’t need to bring lots of toys or plan activities for your kids when camping.  Left to their own devices, kids will come up with ideas, realize it with items around them, and use their imaginations to play with their creations. **It’s not your job isn’t to come up with the camping activities.  Rather, it’s your job to step back and allow your kids to entertain themselves.** **How do you entertain your kids when camping?  Let us know your ideas in the comments section below.** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids --- ### [Best USCG-Approved Life Jackets for Toddlers 2026](https://momgoescamping.com/best-life-jackets-toddlers/) **Published:** March 26, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** If you toddler is doing any activity near open water, they need a life jacket.  Period.  Unfortunately, a lot of water activity operators (think kayak or canoe rentals) don’t have toddler-sized life jackets: you’ll have to bring your own. Finding a life jacket for toddlers can be tricky and confusing.  There actually aren’t that many options out there.  And the safest options are usually the least comfortable. If the life jacket isn’t  comfortable, your toddler might complain about wearing it. That can make what’s supposed to be a fun activity into a whine-fest. Below are some of the best toddler life jackets that are actually comfortable, and meet all of the USCG safety requirements. ## Best Life Jackets for Toddlers All of these toddler life jackets are US Coast Guard approved for babies and toddlers up to 30lbs. They are all also Type II (which means they will help turn a child onto their back in the water). ### 1. [Stohlquist Infant Life Jacket  ](https://amzn.to/3TNqbKE) ![Stohlquist Infant Life Jacket](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Stohlquist-Infant-Life-Jacket.jpg "Stohlquist Infant Life Jacket - Mom Goes Camping") #### Features: - **Type:** II - **Material:** Nylon - **Closure:** Zipper, 1 front buckle, 1 back strap, crotch strap - [**Get It Here**](https://amzn.to/3TNqbKE) This gets our pick as best infant life jacket for a few reasons. For starters, it is actually a Type II infant life jacket.  (Note that the child size is type III). It will help turn a child on their back. It is also rated for Boating, Water Skiing, Fishing, Kayaking, Rafting. The design of the life jacket is also really nice. It isn’t nearly as bulky as other life jackets for infants and toddlers (so your kid is less likely to complain about wearing it).  There are large arm holes so for movement and even swimming. The double neck rest is comfortable and there are lots of straps for getting the perfect fit.  Of course, all of these nice features do mean the life jacket costs more. #### Pros - Comfortable - Double collar - Easy on/off - Open neck and large arm holes for good mobility #### Cons - Pricier option --- ### 2. [O’Neill Infant Superlite Life Jacket](https://amzn.to/3Ka2l8Q) ![O'Neill Infant Superlite USCG Life Vest,Pacific/Yellow/Black:Yellow,1sz](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41cOl8XS1mL._SL500_.jpg) Here’s a more affordable Type II toddler life jacket.  The sizing runs a bit small (chest size up to 24 inches), so it’s best for skinny toddlers.   It’s one of the more comfortable life jackets you’ll find for toddlers since the head rest doesn’t push up against their head.  However, it’s a bit bulky and limits mobility. #### Features: - **Type:** II - **Material:** Nylon - **Closure:** Zipper, 2 front buckles, crotch strap - [**Get It Here**](https://amzn.to/3Ka2l8Q) #### Pros - Thinner and more comfortable design - Headrest doesn’t push on head - Affordable #### Cons - Two straps - Size runs small - Bulky - Poor mobility --- ### 3. [Stearns Infant Classic Series Vest](https://amzn.to/42Fbyxg) ![STEARNS Infant Classic Series Vest, Blue](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41VtQJCscnL._SL500_.jpg) #### Features: - **Type:** II - **Material:** Nylon - **Closure:** Zipper, front buckle, crotch strap - [**Get It Here**](https://amzn.to/42Fbyxg) This is one of the most affordable infant life jackets you’ll find while still being a very good quality.  The downside is that it’s really bulky and definitely not the most comfortable for your toddler to wear. Note that the Amazon description on Stearns infant life vests is incorrect: they should all be listed as Type II vests #### Pros - Affordable - Durable - Large handle for quickly grabbing kids - Low-cut arm holes improves comfort #### Cons - Very bulky and constructing - Tight around the neck --- ### 4. [Stearns Infant Puddle Jumper Hydroprene Life Jacket](https://amzn.to/40R2SDw) ![Stearns Kids Puddle Jumper Hydroprene Seahorse Print Life Jacket](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41HJ7QWLldL._SL500_.jpg) #### Features: - **Type:** II - **Material:** neoprene - **Closure:** Back zipper, 1 front buckle and two crotch straps - **[Get It Here](https://amzn.to/40R2SDw)** Here’s another toddler life jacket by Stearns.  It costs a bit more than the Classic version but is much more comfortable. The sides are made out of a soft, flexible material so your toddler has lots of mobility.  The material also means this life jacket will dry faster. It comes in several different cute colors. Note that this life jacket is NOT rated for boating (just near shore and calm water, so general floatation).  Another downside is that it is slightly annoying to put on since the zipper is in the back and the strap off to the side. #### Pros: - Soft and comfortable hydroprene material - Head flotation doesn’t push on child’s head - Cute designs - Double crotch strap for comfort #### Cons: - Not for boating - Tight around the neck - Fits weird on taller toddlers --- ### 5. [Airhead Treasure Infant Life Jacket](https://amzn.to/3np5g4H) [![airhead infant life jacket vest](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/airhead-infant-life-jacket-vest.jpg "airhead infant life jacket vest - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/airhead-infant-life-jacket-vest.jpg) #### Features: - **Type:** II - **Material:** Polyester - **Closure:** Zipper, front buckle, crotch strap - [**Get It Here** ](https://amzn.to/3np5g4H) This infant-size life jacket is ultra cute, Type II and a good price.  The downsides are that it is really bulky on babies and toddlers.  The head flotation doesn’t lie back well, so it ends up pushing on your child’s head.  There also aren’t many straps, so it’s hard to get a good fit.  I would really only recommend it for older toddlers who are still under 30lbs. #### Pros: - Durable construction - Cute designs #### Cons: - Really bulky - Limits mobility - Not many straps for adjusting fit ---                                                           **Get the complete camping toolkit:** My dehydrator recipes ebook (50+ trail meals) + printable camping cheat sheets, bundled together for just $15! **[                                                               Get the bundle & Save $15 →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/Bundle)** ## Types of Life Jackets Life jackets are broken down into types based on their buoyancy and turning performance (more on that later). All life jackets for children under 30lbs are either Type II or Type III. ### **Type I: Offshore Life Jackets** Type 1 life jackets are also known as offshore life jackets, and they are designed to provide the most buoyancy and the best turning performance of any life jacket type. These jackets are typically used in open, rough, or remote waters, and they are designed to turn an unconscious person face-up in the water and keep them afloat. Type 1 life jackets are the most buoyant type and can provide up to 22 pounds of buoyancy.\\ Unfortunately, Type I life jackets do not come in infant (under 30lb) sizes! There are some child-sized Type I life jackets, but even these are hard to find. ### **Type II: Near-Shore Buoyancy Vests** Type 2 life jackets are also known as near-shore buoyancy vests. These jackets are designed for use in calm or inland water where there is a good chance of rescue. Type 2 life jackets provide less buoyancy than Type 1 jackets, and they are designed to turn most wearers face-up in the water. Type 2 jackets typically provide between 15.5 and 19 pounds of buoyancy. ### **Type III: Flotation Aids or Buoyancy Vests** Type 3 life jackets are also known as flotation aids or buoyancy vests. These jackets are designed for use in calm water, where rescue is likely to be quick. Type 3 life jackets provide the least amount of buoyancy of any life jacket type and are designed to be comfortable and allow freedom of movement for activities such as water skiing, kayaking, or fishing. Type 3 jackets typically provide between 15.5 and 19 pounds of buoyancy. ### Is It Okay for a Toddler to Wear a Type III Life Jacket? Type III life jackets are generally only recommended for children who are swimmers.  Since most toddlers aren’t good swimmers, that means they should wear a Type II life jacket. However, Type III life jackets are a generally lot more comfortable to wear because they aren’t as bulky.  If your child isn’t going on open water, you *might* consider a Type III life jacket instead.   I’m definitely not going to be the one to recommend loosening safety requirements for toddlers on water though! ## Other Things to Consider When Choosing a Toddler Life Jacket ### Buoyancy Rating The bold-faced number on a life jacket is the buoyance rating.  It’s a measurement of the pounds of gravitational force the life jacket resists. Simply put, the higher the number, the greater the floatation. Most the toddler life jackets on the market today in the United States are Level 70 life jackets. ### Turning Performance The curved arrow indicates the turning ability of the life jacket. Turning ability is whether or not a life jacket is capable or designed to turn an unconscious person face up, unassisted. A life jacket with the curved arrow and slash through it **will not** turn a person right side up. If there is no slash, it will turn most wearers face up. All Type II life jackets have turning performance.  Some Type I life jackets have turning performance. No Type III life jackets have turning performance. ### Warnings and Exclusions The next thing you’ll notice are warnings and exclusions. These are icons which indicate which types of activities and waters the life jacket is suitable for, such as towed sports or boating. ### It Must Be US Coast Guard Approved!!! The United States Coast Guard sets safety standards for all types of personal flotation devices (PFDs). When a life jacket is Coast Guard approved, it means that it has been tested and meets these safety standards for buoyancy, performance, and construction. For a toddler life jacket, being Coast Guard approved is particularly important because young children are more vulnerable in the water and require extra protection to stay safe. A properly fitting Coast Guard approved life jacket can help keep a toddler afloat in the water, even if they are unable to swim or become unconscious. In addition, **many states and localities require that children wear Coast Guard approved life jackets when participating in water activities**. ### Comfort and Mobility Open-sided life vests provide more room for movement, while close-sided vests offer a tighter fit. The neck collar is also important, and there are various designs available, including segmented collars for added comfort. ### Other Features of Toddler Life Jackets These features are not optional for toddler life jackets: - **Padded head support**to help keep the child’s head above water. - **Grab handle**to assist retrieving the child out of the water. - **Crotch strap** to help keep the PFD from riding up. - **Bright colors:** This improves visibility so it’s easier to spot and rescue your child ## Sizing a Toddler’s Life Jacket Fits **Do NOT buy a life jacket that your child will “grow into”.** Buy one that fits their size and weight right NOW. **Kids’ life jackets are sized according to weight, not chest size** (adult life jackets are sized by chest circumference). - **Infant/Toddler: 8-30 lbs** - **Child: 30-50 lbs** - **Youth: 50-90 lbs** Unfortunately, these weight ranges can make it tricky to get a life jacket for toddlers which are a bit heavier.  For example, if your toddler is over 30lbs but still fairly short, the “child” life jackets won’t fit well.  You’ll need to look for life jackets which are smaller (not as bulky) but still have the appropriate weight rating. **Note:** The more straps a PFD has, the more adjustments can be made for sizing ### Testing Life Jacket Fit - When lifting the child up by the handle or shoulders of the PFD, the child should stay secure within the PFD. - It should have a secure, snug If it’s too tight, it won’t provide sufficient flotation (you’ll need to move up a size). - A fastened life jacket or vest should never rise above the face when a child is in the water. - Make sure the adjustable straps are secure and the crotch strap is tight enough to prevent the life jacket from riding up. - If the life jacket rides up, it’s likely too large (go down a size). Read more about the best tips for hiking with small kids below: - [Best Baby Sleeping Bags for Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/best-baby-sleeping-bags-camping/) - [17 Tips for Hiking with Little Kids](https://momgoescamping.com/tips-hiking-little-kids/) - [Backpacking with Kids](https://momgoescamping.com/guide-backpacking-kids/) ## Toddler Life Jackets FAQ: #### What type of life jacket should a toddler wear? A US Coast Guard approved Type II (near-shore) life jacket sized for their current weight. Type II jackets are designed to turn a child face-up in the water, which matters enormously for toddlers who can’t swim. Type III jackets are more comfortable but don’t have turning performance, so they’re only appropriate for kids who can already swim. #### Are Puddle Jumper arm floaties the same as a life jacket? No. The classic arm-band Puddle Jumpers are swim aids, not substitutes for a proper life jacket, and they’re not appropriate for boating or open water. For any activity on or near open water, your toddler needs a real USCG-approved vest with head support, a grab handle, and a crotch strap. #### Do toddlers have to wear life jackets on boats? In most states, yes — children under a certain age (commonly 12 or 13, younger in some states) must wear a USCG-approved life jacket on a moving boat, and federal rules apply on waters without state regulations. Check your state’s requirements before you go, and remember that rental operators often don’t stock toddler sizes, so bring your own. #### How do I know if my toddler’s life jacket fits? Buckle everything including the crotch strap, then lift the child by the shoulders of the jacket,they should stay secure inside it, and it should never ride up over their chin or face. Snug is correct; if it rides up it’s too big, and never buy a size for them to “grow into.” #### How much should a toddler weigh for an infant life jacket? Infant/toddler life jackets are rated for 8 to 30 pounds. Once your child passes 30 pounds, move to a child-size jacket (30 to 50 pounds) even if they’re on the shorter side, the weight rating is what determines how much flotation they get. --- Image credits: “[IMG\_0031](https://www.flickr.com/photos/abbybatchelder/3908413792/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [abbybatchelder](https://www.flickr.com/people/abbybatchelder/) Sources: <https://www.dco.uscg.mil/CG-ENG-4/PFDSel/>, <https://www.reddit.com/r/Parenting/comments/v709s6/recommendations_for_a_child_life_jacket/>, ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids --- ### [BOB Alterrain Pro Stroller: Reviewed by an Outdoorsy Mom](https://momgoescamping.com/bob-alterrain-pro-stroller-review/) **Published:** March 18, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** BOB stands for *Beast of Burden*.  The company does a great job of living up to their name by making strollers which can handle hardcore terrain.  Their previous stroller, the [Revolution Flex 3.0](https://momgoescamping.com/bob-revolution-flex-3-0-review/), is a big hit with hikers.  The Alterrain Pro takes it to a new level. Here’s what you need to know about the BOB Alterrain Pro, including the differences between the Alterrain and Pro versions and whether it’s worth your money. **Also read: [Best Off-Road Strollers for Hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/all-terrain-strollers-hiking/)** ## What is the Alterrain Pro Stroller? The Alterrain Pro is a jogging stroller with off-road capabilities.  If you just jog on smooth roads, then you probably don’t need this beast.  However, if you frequently jog on trails, it’s one of the best options out there.  In fact, there aren’t too many other off-road strollers. **In addition to trail jogging, the Alterrain Pro is good for:** - Hiking - Terrible roads and sidewalks - Being able to push a stroller straight through a muddy yard, field or homestead 🙂 **You can buy the Alterrain Pro [here at Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/BOB-Gear-Alterrain-Jogging-Stroller/dp/B07XV1WLSC?&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=5f5d5d5086cf4960c2f61a8c753de6ba&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) or here at [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DBOB%2BAlterrain%26pagesize%3D90)** ## Alterrain Pro Main Features Rather than going over all of the features of the Alterrain Pro, here are the main ones which make it stand out. ### 1. Amazing Suspension System BOB strollers use mountain bike suspension systems to give your child a smooth ride even on bumpy terrain.  With the Alterrain, they’ve upgraded the suspension system even more. It’s called Smoothshox. I honestly can’t speak to the technology behind the new suspension system, but it does handle insanely well. ### 2. Large Air-Filled Tires Like pretty much all other off-road jogging strollers, the Alterrain Pro has three large air-filled tires.  This is what allows them to go over bumps without jostling your baby.  The tires are good quality and you don’t have to worry about them popping (though adding some tire slime to prevent flats is still a good idea). [![Alterrain pro wheel](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/alterrain-pro-wheel.png "alterrain pro wheel - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/alterrain-pro-wheel.png) ### 3. Good Steering Capabilities The Alterrain Pro has a front wheel which can be locked or unlocked (360 degree swivel).  It also has “adjustable front wheel tracking.”  This is a little knob which allows you to easily fine tune the wheel position.  There are some seriously good bearings in the wheels too, which make the stroller turn easily. I also like that the hand brake is *not* in the middle of the stroller handlebar. It is incredibly annoying when stroller makers put something in the middle of the handle because it prevents you from steering with one hand! ### 4. Very Durable Frame BOB stroller frames are very durable.  The frames come with a five year warranty which is valid even if you put the stroller through some insane abuse. Note that there is only a 1-year warranty on the canopy and some other parts. ### 5. Hand and Foot Brakes There is a big brake on the Alterrain stroller which is very easy to use even when wearing sandals.  The Pro model has a hand brake too.  It is similar to a mountain bike brake and will allow you to slow the stroller when going down hills. ### Other Cool Features - **Fully upright seating and nearly-flat recline:** It’s amazing how many jogging and off-road strollers don’t have this feature! - **Lots of storage:** There is a massive storage basket plus 5 other pockets. - **One-handed folding:** This really makes life easier when you have to fold the stroller while holding your baby. - **Sun and rain protection:** The canopy is SPF 50 and folds almost all the way down. It is also waterproof to keep your kid dry in rainy conditions. - **Adjustable handlebar:** The handlebar goes in 9 different positions. - **Good ventilation:** There is ventilation in the canopy as well as the seat. ## Alterrian Pro Age Limit You can use the Alterrain Pro with newborns. There is no maximum age limit.  The weight limit is 75lbs.  Once you kid gets to be 44 inches tall, their head will hit the top canopy. Note that infants can’t go in the stroller seat.  You’ll need to have a compatible car seat (Britax, Chicco, Peg Perego or Graco) and buy the car seat adapter. From 8 weeks, babies can go in the stroller seat but walking only.  From 8 months and onwards, babies can go in the stroller seat when jogging or off-road. ## The Bad ### It’s Massive and Heavy Even when compared to other jogging strollers, the BOB Alterrain Pro is pretty massive and heavy.  Check the dimensions carefully as it won’t fit in many small cars!  You may need to take the wheels off to get it to fit in your truck.  It is pretty fast and easy to remove the wheels, but annoying to do when those wheels are covered with mud. - **Weight: 32.3lbs** - **Folded dimensions (wheels on):** 39.3(L)x25.5(W)x16(H) inches - **Folded dimensions (wheels off):** 33(L)x21.5(W)x13(H) inches See the video below for how to get BOB strollers into a small car trunk. ### Stroller Doesn’t Stand Up Well The Alterrain Pro technically can stand up on its own when folded.  But it also topples over easily.  This is a minor annoyance – until the dirty stroller falls on your wall and makes a stain. ### Hand Brake Isn’t the Best While I love that the BOB Alterrain Pro has a hand brake, it’s not the best.   It uses a lever-style brake (like on a bike).  The lever attaches to a cable which runs down the stroller and then branches out into two cables for each back wheel.   This means you’ve got to pull really hard on the lever to brake.  The cables will get stretched out quickly, which means more maintenance. Another issue with the lever brake is that it is fairly large.  If you have small hands, it will be hard to reach the lever.  You definitely can’t use the brake one-handed, like you would be able to with the Thule Urban Glide 2.0’s twist-style brake. If you are the DIY type, you might even want to buy the regular Alterrain stroller and install a braking system on its yourself! ### Has a Learning Curve All strollers have a bit of a learning curve but the BOB Alterrain may take a bit longer to get used to.  The auto-lock knob is a bit weird and it will take some practice to unfold the stroller quickly.  Likewise, it can take a while to get the wheel tracking right. A lot of people also complained that putting the stroller together was complicated, though IMO it isn’t harder than any other stroller. ### Requires Some Maintenance Considering that the BOB Alterrain Pro is meant to go on rugged conditions, they could have done a better job of protecting the wheels.  As they are now, the wheels are exposed and parts get wet.  This in turn can cause the wheels to squeak.  You will need to get yourself some WD-40 and lubricate those wheels occasionally. I also read a few complaints that the hand brake was tight and needed adjustment. Don’t be surprised if you need to make a trip to your local bike shop to get the stroller tweaked a bit! ### Folds with the Fabric Outwards The one-handed folding mechanism is located in the middle of the seat.  This means that the stroller folds with the fabric facing outwards.  As someone who has an incredibly dirty car trunk, I find this incredibly annoying. Unfortunately, pretty much all one-handed folding joggers are like this.  The BOB Revolution Flex 3.0 folds with the fabric inwards but you need two hands to fold. You’ve basically got to choose between easy folding or being able to keep the seat fabric clean! ### Snack Tray Sold Separately Again, this is a minor issue.  But, if you are spending this much on a stroller, it would be nice to have a snack tray included.  Likewise, other accessories are sold seperately.  Some of them — like the console with a cup holder — are actually quite pricy.  I’m sure you could find some cheap generic accessories that would fit the stroller though (maybe I’ll research this for a later post). ### It’s Expensive The Alterrain Pro stroller is definitely not cheap.  If you go off-road a lot, then the price is worth it.  However, if you mostly go on smooth trails or paved roads, then you probably don’t need this advanced of a suspension system.  The BOB Revolution Flex 3.0 is usually at least $100 cheaper (see [here](https://www.amazon.com/BOB-Gear-Revolution-Suspension-Adjustable/dp/B0829PMJ8D?&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=b45d066a4fa4b6f096b6d88eeee6d440&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl)).  There are also some decent budget-friendly joggers which are “good enough” for occassional off-road use like the [Jeep Deluxe Patriot Open Trails stroller](https://www.amazon.com/Jeep-Deluxe-Patriot-Children-Charcoal/dp/B07QB8L7VG?crid=1M8BGDRTVUSV&keywords=hiking+stroller&qid=1645805983&s=baby-products&sprefix=hiking+stroll%2Cbaby-products%2C206&sr=1-29&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=27b7e69adea30a086eaf8cec17f5264e&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl). **Get the Alterrain Pro [here at Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/BOB-Gear-Alterrain-Jogging-Stroller/dp/B07XV1WLSC?&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=5f5d5d5086cf4960c2f61a8c753de6ba&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) or here at [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DBOB%2BAlterrain%26pagesize%3D90)** ## BOB Alterrain Pro FAQ: #### Is the BOB Alterrain Pro good for hiking? Yes — it’s one of the few strollers genuinely built for off-road use. The mountain-bike-style SmoothShox suspension, large air-filled tires, and lockable front wheel handle dirt trails, mud, and rough ground that would rattle a standard jogger to pieces. #### What’s the difference between the Alterrain and the Alterrain Pro? The Pro adds a hand brake for downhill control, a zippered cargo basket, a canopy vent extension, and fully waterproof fabric. Note that BOB has discontinued the regular Alterrain, so the Pro is the only version still in production — you’ll only find the regular model used or on clearance. #### Can a newborn go in the Alterrain Pro? Not in the stroller seat. For newborns you need a compatible car seat (Britax, Chicco, Peg Perego, or Graco) plus the adapter. From 8 weeks, babies can ride in the seat for walking only, and from 8 months they’re cleared for jogging and off-road use. #### What is the weight limit on the BOB Alterrain Pro? 75 pounds. There’s no age limit, in practice, kids outgrow it around 44 inches tall, when their head reaches the canopy. #### Does the Alterrain Pro fit in a car trunk? It’s a big stroller, 39.3 x 25.5 x 16 inches folded with wheels on. It won’t fit in many small cars without popping the wheels off, which shrinks it to 33 x 21.5 x 13 inches. Wheel removal is quick, just messy when they’re muddy. ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** stroller --- ### [What to Do If You Get Sick While Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/get-sick-camping/) **Published:** October 8, 2025 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I pride myself on being someone who prepares for everything. I’m always imagining worst-case scenarios and how I’d deal with them (it actually drives my husband crazy because I’m so “pessimistic”). Still, I wasn’t fully prepared the first time I got sick while camping. I’m not talking about a bit of the sniffles. I was literally puking my guts out all over the trail. It was just me and my daughter (then 5 years old) on the trip. Luckily, it was me who got sick and not my daughter. Getting sick while camping is one of those things that seems terrifying until it happens to you. Then you realize that with the right preparation and mindset, you can handle it—and maybe even learn something valuable. Here’s what happened to me, what I learned from the experience, and exactly how to prepare in case you ever get sick while camping. ## My Story: When Everything Went Wrong ### Everything Started Out Fine… Even before I got sick, the camping trip wasn’t going so well. I’d changed our plans last-minute because the weather forecast called for thunderstorms. So, I thought it would be fun to camp inside of a cave so we could take shelter there. It ended up not raining. Note to self: Never change plans again just because of the weather forecast! It turns out that camping inside of a cave is NOT as much fun as it would seem. The cave was full of dust which swirled around in the wind. The ground acted like a heat sink and my crappy sleeping pad offered little protection. Oh, and there was that vipera berus—a highly venomous snake—which was hanging out just 1 meter from the tent! I’m not afraid of snakes and know [what to do if you see a snake](https://momgoescamping.com/what-to-do-if-you-see-a-snake/), but it still put me on edge. ### Then I Woke Up Puking and with Diarrhea I woke up very early in the morning and immediately had to vomit. I’ll spare you the details about the diarrhea! Needless to say, I didn’t have time to dig a cat-hole, and I feel really bad about not following the “leave no trace” rule of wild camping. When my daughter woke up, we packed up camp and hiked down to the road (which luckily wasn’t very far). Then we hitchhiked to the nearest town. We went to a pharmacy so I could get anti-diarrhea medicine. Oh, did I mention that I was in Bulgaria and I don’t speak Bulgarian? I had to pantomime what medicine I needed! It’s funny in retrospect, but in the moment, it was pretty stressful trying to communicate while feeling absolutely miserable. ## Electrolytes Saved Me I wasn’t completely unprepared for getting sick while camping. One thing that I had in my mini first aid kit was electrolytes, and honestly, they were a lifesaver. ### What Are Electrolytes and Why Do They Matter? Electrolytes are minerals which are vital for balancing fluids in your cells. You can drink tons of water but won’t actually hydrate yourself without also consuming electrolytes. Basically, electrolytes help hydrate your body super quickly. That’s why sports drinks contain electrolytes—and why they’re absolutely essential when you’re losing fluids through vomiting or diarrhea. If I hadn’t packed electrolytes with my gear, I would have been severely dehydrated from throwing up all of the water I’d drunk. I was still tired from not being able to keep food down, but at least I was hydrated enough to function and take care of my daughter. ![These electrolytes contain 30 packets and cost $24. You can buy them here.](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/electrolytes-1024x1016.jpg) *Electrolyte packets are lightweight, take up almost no space, and can make a huge difference when you’re sick outdoors. [Buy them here](http://amzn.to/2fjSkYo).* ## 4 Critical Lessons I Learned from Getting Sick While Camping ### 1. Always Have a SOLID Backup Plan When traveling with my daughter, I always have a backup accommodation in case something goes wrong. For this trip, I’d written down the addresses of 3 different guesthouses. After hitting up the pharmacy, we tried going to them. Unfortunately, they were really hard to find. We ended up walking all over town trying to find the addresses (me puking along the way). The first guesthouse wasn’t open. The second guesthouse was so terrible that we skipped it. The third guesthouse was fully booked. My backup plan had failed! Luckily, I stumbled across a nice taxi driver who took us to a nearby campground. **Next time, I will make sure to:** - Check in with the police or park rangers at the start of the trip in case things go so wrong that I can’t get out on my own - Get the phone numbers AND detailed directions to my backup locations before I leave - Have a phone number for a local taxi company so I don’t end up walking all around town while puking - Research the backup accommodation better, especially when options are limited in remote areas - Save emergency contacts and addresses offline on my phone in case I don’t have service ### 2. Resting in a Sleeping Bag Can Be As Good As Resting At Home When you’re sick while camping, you do what you’d do at home: stay warm, stay hydrated, and relax. This is exactly what I did at the campground. After setting up the tent, I put on all of my warm clothes and curled up in my sleeping bag. I rested while Isabel ran around playing with beetles (we both really like insects). Maybe I would have been more comfortable in a warm hotel with a proper bed. But at least I had a toilet and potable water at the campground. I’m glad that we ended up there and not in a boring hotel where my daughter would have just been watching cartoons all day while I rested. [Need ideas for keeping kids entertained while you recover? See these camping activities that require zero prep.](https://momgoescamping.com/activities-entertain-kids-camping/) The key is creating a comfortable recovery environment wherever you are: - **Stay warm:** Layer up with all your warm clothes, even inside your sleeping bag. [Learn about the 3-layer clothing system to stay warm and dry in all conditions.](https://momgoescamping.com/3-layers-clothing-system/) - **Stay hydrated:** Sip water or electrolytes constantly, even if you’re throwing up - **Rest as much as possible:** Don’t push yourself to hike or do activities - **Keep basic necessities close:** Water, tissues, plastic bags for vomiting, your first aid kit - **Get comfortable:** Even on uneven ground, you can improve your sleeping setup. [See these tricks for camping on uneven ground.](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-uneven-ground/) ### 3. Have a Good First Aid Kit I have since updated my first aid kit based on this experience. Electrolytes are an absolute MUST. I also now carry anti-diarrhea medicine (no more needing to pantomime to pharmacists!), activated charcoal for food poisoning, and fever medicine. **Essential items for handling illness while camping:** - **Electrolyte packets** – For rehydration when you’re losing fluids - **Anti-diarrhea medication** – Imodium or similar - **Anti-nausea medication** – Can help you keep food and water down - **Fever reducer** – Acetaminophen or ibuprofen - **Activated charcoal** – For suspected food poisoning - **Hand sanitizer** – To prevent spreading illness - **Plastic bags** – For vomiting when you can’t get out of the tent quickly - **Toilet paper and wet wipes** – Always bring extra **Resources for building your first aid kit:** - See [my lightweight backpacking first aid kit checklist here](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-first-aid-checklist/) - If you are car camping, see [my full travel first aid kit checklist here](https://momgoescamping.com/travel-first-aid-kit-list/) ![travel first aid kit list](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/first-aid-kit-for-travelers-checklist.jpg) ### 4. Always Bring Soup When Camping I had packed soup for a few of our backpacking meals, and it turned out to be perfect sick food. The other food I’d brought was not suitable for an upset stomach. So, I made the soup for myself and gave my daughter the other food. I just made the soup with more water so it was easier on my stomach and more hydrating. **Lesson?** Always bring warm soup when camping. Even if you don’t get sick, it’s comforting on cold mornings and easy to digest after a long day of hiking.                                                         **Heading out soon?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup. **[                                                         Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** ## Should I Have Given Up on the Trip? After a day of rest, I felt a bit better. We were even able to go hiking around the area and explore a nearby cave system. However, once back home, I got a bit pissed at myself. *Why do I have to be so friggin’ “tough” that I walked for hours with a pack while vomiting on myself? Why didn’t I just give up and go back home? Why do I feel like I have to prove something?* And then I think back to this short trip we had. It was tough. Not just the sickness part, but camping in cold weather, seeing a venomous snake, Isabel overcoming her fear and exploring caves, hitchhiking all day… It was also really worth it. How many 5-year-olds can say that they’ve slept in a cave? How many kids love bugs so much that they stop to remove every single bug from the trail so it won’t get squashed? How many kids get a firsthand look at weathering, erosion, and plate tectonics? So, yes, sometimes you might get sick while camping. Just do what you would have done if sick at home: eat soup, stay hydrated, and relax as much as possible. You’ll find that you can rest just as well in a sleeping bag outside as you can on your couch at home. **Is it worth being tough and sticking with it?** That depends on your situation. There’s no shame in cutting a trip short if you’re truly miserable or if the illness is serious. But if you can safely rest and recover where you are, you might find that pushing through creates some of your most memorable camping experiences. ![hiking belogradchik lepinitsa cave](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/IMG_3986-683x1024.jpg) ## Complete Action Plan: What to Do If You Get Sick While Camping ### Before Your Trip (Prevention & Preparation) **Pack a comprehensive first aid kit including:** - Electrolytes – *This is THE most important item* - Anti-diarrhea medication (Imodium) - Anti-nausea medication - Fever reducers (acetaminophen or ibuprofen) - Activated charcoal for food poisoning - Extra plastic bags for vomiting - Hand sanitizer and antibacterial wipes - See [my updated kit checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-first-aid-checklist/) **Plan your backup options:** - Research nearby towns, campgrounds, or accommodations - Save addresses, phone numbers, and directions offline - Check in with local police or park rangers and get their contact info - For remote wilderness trips, carry a [GPS communication device](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-communication-devices/) **Prevent illness:** - Always treat your drinking water (I use the [Sawyer Mini water filter](https://momgoescamping.com/sawyer-mini-water-filter-review/)) - Practice good hygiene – wash hands before eating and after using the bathroom - Store food properly to prevent contamination - Stay warm and dry – many illnesses strike when you’re cold and exhausted. [Read our complete guide to camping in the rain.](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-in-the-rain/) - Pack easily digestible foods like soup, crackers, and oatmeal - Know how to set up proper shelter. [Learn these 27 tarp shelter setups for emergency situations.](https://momgoescamping.com/tarp-shelters/) ### When Illness Strikes **Immediate steps:** 1. **Stop and assess:** Don’t try to push through if you’re seriously ill 2. **Set up a comfortable recovery spot:** Pitch your tent or find shelter if you haven’t already 3. **Start hydrating immediately:** Mix electrolytes with water and sip constantly, even if you’re vomiting 4. **Take appropriate medication:** Anti-diarrhea, anti-nausea, or fever reducers as needed 5. **Stay warm:** Layer up with all your warm clothes, even inside your sleeping bag 6. **Rest:** Your body needs energy to fight whatever’s making you sick **If you’re camping with others:** - Let them know what’s happening - Ask for help with camp tasks if needed - Practice good hygiene to avoid spreading illness - Keep some distance if possible to protect others **If you’re solo camping (like I was):** - Move to a safer location if needed (closer to trailhead or help) - Contact someone to let them know your situation - Don’t be a hero – call for help if you’re seriously ill - Keep emergency contacts and your backup plan accessible ### Deciding Whether to Continue or Cut the Trip Short **Continue camping if:** - You have access to clean water and sanitation - You’re able to keep fluids down with electrolytes - You have a safe, comfortable place to rest - The illness seems to be improving - You’re not putting yourself or others in danger - You have adequate supplies to care for yourself - Weather conditions are manageable (if storms threaten, [see our thunderstorm safety guide](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-thunderstorm/)) **Head home or seek medical help if:** - You can’t keep any fluids down for more than 12 hours - You have a high fever that won’t break - You’re showing signs of severe dehydration (extreme thirst, dark urine, dizziness) - You have severe abdominal pain or blood in vomit/stool - You’re too weak to take care of basic needs - The situation is affecting your judgment or safety - You’re responsible for young children who need care ## Common Camping Illnesses and How to Handle Them ### Food Poisoning or Stomach Bugs **Symptoms:** Nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach cramps **Treatment:** Electrolytes, anti-diarrhea medication, activated charcoal, rest **Duration:** Usually 24-48 hours ### Dehydration **Symptoms:** Extreme thirst, dark urine, dizziness, fatigue, headache **Treatment:** Electrolyte drinks, small frequent sips of water, rest in shade **Prevention:** Drink before you’re thirsty, especially in hot weather or at altitude ### Colds and Flu **Symptoms:** Congestion, cough, fever, body aches **Treatment:** Fever reducers, warm fluids, rest, stay warm and dry **Note:** Often preventable by staying warm and dry. [Use the proper layering system](https://momgoescamping.com/3-layers-clothing-system/) and [know how to make a fire even in the rain](https://momgoescamping.com/make-fire-rain/) to stay warm. ### Heat Exhaustion **Symptoms:** Heavy sweating, weakness, nausea, headache, dizziness **Treatment:** Move to shade, remove excess clothing, drink electrolytes, cool down with wet cloths **Warning:** Can progress to heat stroke, which is life-threatening ## Special Considerations When Camping with Kids Getting sick while camping with children adds an extra layer of complexity. You need to care for yourself while also keeping your kids safe and entertained. **If you get sick while camping with kids:** - Set up activities they can do independently. [See these camping activities for kids that require zero planning.](https://momgoescamping.com/activities-entertain-kids-camping/) - Keep them close but occupied – nature provides endless entertainment - Have easy snacks accessible that they can get themselves - Explain what’s happening in age-appropriate terms so they don’t worry - Don’t hesitate to call for help if you’re unable to care for them properly Planning a camping trip with little ones? Check out these resources: - [How to Go Camping with a Baby](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-with-baby/) - [How to Go Tent Camping with Toddlers](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-with-toddler/) - [Best Toys to Bring Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-toys/) ## Final Thoughts: It’s Okay to Be Human Getting sick while camping doesn’t mean you’re a bad camper or that you failed. Bodies get sick sometimes—that’s just part of being human. What matters is how you prepare for it and how you handle it when it happens. It’s okay to give up on a trip. You don’t have to prove anything to anyone. Your safety and health come first, always. But if you can safely rest and recover where you are, you might find that these “disaster” trips become some of your most memorable experiences. They teach resilience, problem-solving, and that you’re tougher than you think. Just make sure you’re prepared. Pack those electrolytes. Have a backup plan. Know when to push through and when to call it quits. [See all our camping safety guides here.](https://momgoescamping.com/category/family-camping-safety/) ## Getting Sick While Camping FAQ: #### What’s the most important thing to pack in case you get sick camping? Electrolyte packets. When you’re losing fluids from vomiting or diarrhea, plain water isn’t enough to rehydrate you. Electrolytes weigh almost nothing, take up no space, and are the difference between functioning and being dangerously dehydrated in the backcountry. #### Can you get sick from drinking stream or lake water? Yes — pathogens like giardia are a classic cause of camping stomach illness, and symptoms can take days to show up. Always filter or treat backcountry water, even from clear, fast-moving streams. Clear water is not the same as clean water. #### Should I keep drinking water if I’m throwing up? Yes, in small, constant sips, ideally with electrolytes mixed in. Even if some comes back up, some is absorbed. Stopping fluids entirely is how mild sickness turns into serious dehydration. #### When should I end a camping trip because of illness? Head home or get medical help if you can’t keep fluids down for more than about 12 hours, have a high fever that won’t break, notice signs of severe dehydration, see blood in vomit or stool, or are too weak to handle basic camp tasks. With kids in your care, err on the side of leaving earlier. #### How do I keep from getting others in my group sick? Hand sanitizer after every bathroom trip and before touching shared food, keep your own utensils and water bottle separate, and let someone else handle the cooking. Stomach bugs tear through camp groups fast when everyone shares a snack bag. **What would you do if you got puking sick while camping? Have you ever had to deal with illness in the backcountry? Share your story in the comments below!** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety --- ### [How to Make Campfire S’mores without Sticks](https://momgoescamping.com/make-smores-without-sticks/) **Published:** March 29, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** It usually isn’t too difficult to find a suitable stick for roasting marshmallows.  But, if you really can’t find any sticks around, here are 7 ways to make s’mores without a stick. ## 1. Set It Next to the Fire The easiest way to make s’mores without sticks is to simply set your s’more next to the fire, preferably on a hot rock or fireproof plate. This won’t get the exterior of the marshmallow crispy but it will melt it a bit. ## 2. Tinfoil [![smores on tinfoil](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/smores-on-tinfoil.jpg "smores on tinfoil - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/smores-on-tinfoil.jpg) Make a little “tray” out of tinfoil, compile your s’more, put it into the foil tray and put the tray on the grill rack over the fire. Wait until the marshmallow has had time to melt before carefully removing them.   Just remember that tinfoil is flammable so you’ll need to keep it well away from the flames. ## 3. Grill Rack [![smores on grill rack](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/smores-on-grill-rack.jpg "smores on grill rack - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/smores-on-grill-rack.jpg) If you have a roasting rack, you can make the s’more directly on top of it.  This method tends to be very messy though. Expect lots of marshmallow to leak all over the rack. ## 4. Cast Iron Pan [![smores on cast iron pan](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/smores-on-cast-iron-pan.jpg "smores on cast iron pan - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/smores-on-cast-iron-pan.jpg) Put the s’mores in a cast iron pan and set it over the fire. Note that whatever is closer to the bottom of the pan will melt faster. To get better results, melt the chocolate on one graham cracker and the marshmallow on another cracker and then assemble. Line the pan with tinfoil to make cleanup easier.                                                      **Want gourmet meals on the trail?** My dehydrator recipes ebook has 50+ calorie-dense backpacking recipes — just add hot water. **[                                                                       Get it here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck)** ## 5. Blow Torch or Lighter [![smores with torch](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/smores-with-torch.jpg "smores with torch - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/smores-with-torch.jpg) Use a lighter or torch to set the marshmallows on fire, blow out, and then assemble your s’mores.  You don’t want to slowly roast them over a lighter because they’ll end up tasting like butane. ## 6. Large Knife [![smores on knife](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/smores-on-knife.jpg "smores on knife - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/smores-on-knife.jpg) As you can see in the picture, a large survival knife comes in handy for roasting marshmallows without a stick. ## 7. Fork [![smores on fork](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/smores-on-fork.jpg "smores on fork - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/smores-on-fork.jpg) While it is possible to roast a marshmallow on a fork, it generally isn’t a good idea.  The heat will transfer down to the handle, meaning you could quickly burn your hand.  Also remember to take the marshmallow off the fork before eating because the fork tines will be HOT! ## S’mores Without Sticks FAQ: #### What can I use instead of a stick to roast marshmallows? A metal fork, a large knife, a grill rack, a foil tray, or a cast iron pan all work. You can even skip roasting entirely and let the whole assembled s’more warm next to the fire until the chocolate and marshmallow soften. #### Can you make s’mores in aluminum foil? Yes — it’s one of the easiest methods. Build the s’more in a small foil tray, set it on a grill rack over the coals, and wait for the marshmallow to melt. You get gooey results without anything catching fire or dripping into the coals. #### Can you make s’mores in a pan? Absolutely. Melt the chocolate on one graham cracker and the marshmallow on another in a cast iron pan over the fire, then sandwich them together. Line the pan with foil first — melted marshmallow is brutal to scrub off cast iron. #### Why shouldn’t I roast marshmallows over a lighter? Slow-roasting over a lighter makes marshmallows taste like butane. If a lighter or torch is all you have, do it fast: set the marshmallow on fire, blow it out, and assemble. #### Are tree branches safe for roasting marshmallows? Generally yes, if you use green (living) wood from a non-toxic tree and strip the bark from the tip. Avoid dead sticks (they burn) and never use oleander or other toxic plants. When in doubt, use one of the stick-free methods instead. **Want to make s’mores the traditional way so they are crispy on the outside and gooey inside? Check out [these roasting sticks plus tips for making your own](https://momgoescamping.com/best-marshmallow-sticks/).** --- ###### Image credits: “[Grill S’mores](https://www.flickr.com/photos/pb/5802054701/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [pb](https://www.flickr.com/people/pb/), “s’Mores” https://www.flickr.com/photos/ap2il/2786745639/ ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by https://www.flickr.com/people/ap2il/ “[smores!](https://www.flickr.com/photos/praline3001/9179487879/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [praline3001](https://www.flickr.com/people/praline3001/), “[smores](https://www.flickr.com/photos/odoublesnap/3639963325/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [kid lion](https://www.flickr.com/people/odoublesnap/), “[Cast-Iron Smore Catalyst](https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/4602464020/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [lumachrome](https://www.flickr.com/people/lumachrome/), “[s’mores](https://www.flickr.com/photos/protographer23/3873068963/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [protographer23](https://www.flickr.com/people/protographer23/), “[toasted](https://www.flickr.com/photos/maggz/2933271205/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [>^..^< maggz >^..^<](https://www.flickr.com/people/maggz/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Food **Tags:** smores --- ### [How to Tie Tent Guylines (with Illustrated Instructions)](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-tie-tent-guylines-illustrated-instructions/) **Published:** September 26, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Tent guylines are ropes or cords attached to a tent. They provide stability and support by anchoring the tent to the ground, trees, or other objects. The guylines help the tent withstand wind, snow and heavy rains as well as provide stability so the tent doesn’t sag. There are multiple ways to tie out tent guylines.  Here I’ve included instructions for two methods: the tautline hitch and the pulley methods. Both methods are easy but still allow you to tension the guylines. ## Tying Guylines with the Tautline Hitch Method ![tie out tent guylines with adjustable tension tautline hitch method](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/tie-out-tent-guylines.jpg "tie out tent guylines - Mom Goes Camping") This is how I usually tie out tent guylines.  I leave the guylines attached, so I can skip step #1.  The tautline hitch knot is adjustable; just slide it and you can adjust the tension of the tent guylines. ### **Instructions:** 1. Tie a bowline knot to the tent’s tie-out point. 2. Put stake in ground where you want your guylines anchored. 3. Pull cord to the peg. 4. Secure cord with a tautline hitch. 5. Slide the knot you just made to tension the guylines. \*You can also use this method with rocks or other secure anchors. Just put the tautline hitch around the object. ## Pulley Method for Tying Tent Guylines [![tie out tarp guylines pulley method](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/tie-out-tarp-guylines-pulley-method.jpg "tie out tarp guylines pulley method - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/tie-out-tarp-guylines-pulley-method.jpg) This method of tying tent guylines is *not* adjustable. However, the extra loop makes it easier to tie the guylines tightly. It also reduces tension so your knots don’t slip. 1. Tie a loop (such as a slip knot or another bowline) towards the bottom1/3 of your guyline. 2. Put stake in ground. Wrap guyline around stake and bring it through the loop you made. Pull tightly! 3. Tie guyline end to itself with a slippery half hitch. ## [Tip: Add Elastic Shock Cord](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=tent+guyline+shock+cord&tag=momgoescampin-20) In windy weather, the guylines pull on your tent fly. The constant flapping can strain the fly, causing it to rip.  To prevent this, you can attach a “shock cord” to the tent guylines. ![guyline shock cord to prevent wind damage to fly](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/shock-cord.jpg "shock cord - Mom Goes Camping") ## Do You Really Need to Tie Out Tent Guylines? In good weather conditions, I usually don’t bother to tie out the guylines. However, if I know the weather could get bad, I always tie out all of the guylines. Bear in mind that the weather can change quickly when camping – especially at high elevations.  It really isn’t fun to leave your tent in the middle of a thunderstorm to adjust the guylines or reattach one that came loose! That’s why it’s so important to know how to tie out your tent guylines, and to do it on time! ## Tent Guylines FAQ: #### Do I always need to use tent guylines? In calm weather, most freestanding tents are fine without them. But if wind, rain, or storms are possible, tie out every guyline — and do it when you pitch the tent, not when the storm arrives. Weather changes fast, especially at elevation, and re-tying guylines in a downpour is miserable. #### What’s the best knot for tent guylines? The tautline hitch. It grips under tension but slides when you want to adjust it, so you can re-tension the guyline without retying anything. If you only learn one camping knot, make it this one. #### At what angle should guylines be staked out? Aim for roughly 45 degrees from the tent, with the guyline pulling in line with the seam or pole it supports. Stakes go into the ground angled away from the tent. If the guyline is nearly vertical or nearly flat along the ground, it isn’t doing much. #### Can I tie guylines to rocks or trees instead of stakes? Yes — any solid anchor works. Wrap the tautline hitch around a heavy rock, log, or tree base. This is the go-to move on rocky ground where stakes won’t hold, or in sand where you can bury an anchor. #### Why do my guylines keep coming loose? Usually it’s either a knot that slips under load (swap it for a tautline hitch) or cord stretch, cheap guyline cord loosens as it absorbs moisture overnight. Re-tension before bed, and consider reflective cord so nobody trips the lines loose in the dark. --- ## Want this information in PRINTABLE format? **Then you need my Camping Cheat Sheets.** The manual has 42 pages crammed with illustrated guides about everything from campfire cooking to wilderness first aid. [![camping cheat sheets](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/interior-pages.jpg "interior pages - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets/guylines) **Heading out soon?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup. **[Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [How to Keep Ticks Out of Your Tent](https://momgoescamping.com/keep-ticks-out-of-tent/) **Published:** June 15, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Nymph and adult ticks are too large to fit through the mesh on tent doors and windows.  However, there are still many ways that ticks can get into your tent, such as hitching a ride on your clothes. The last thing you want is a tick in your tent where it will be able to bite you and feed uninterrupted through the night.  Luckily, there are many things you can do to keep ticks from getting into your tent. ## 1. Choose an Enclosed Tent In tick territory, you can forget about sleeping in a tarp shelter or sleeping under the stars.  You’ll need a tent which can be completely closed off.   Doors and windows should have no-see-um mesh on them. ## 2. Keep the Tent Zipped Make sure you establish a rule that the tent stays zipped up at all times (this can be difficult when camping with children!).  This rule will help keep ticks as well as spiders, mosquitoes, flies and other bugs out. ## 3. Use a Large Groundsheet If you must pitch your tent on tall grass or leaf litter, then use a large groundsheet. The groundsheet should cover the ground *in front* of your tent door.  Use this area for dressing/undressing so ticks are less likely to get on you when you enter or exit the tent. ## 4. Check the Ground for Tick “Nests” before Pitching Your Tent Ticks don’t actually make nests but ticks do have a tendency to form clusters when waiting for a host. If you pitch your tent over one of these tick clusters, you could end up with dozens or even hundreds of ticks in your tent.. To avoid this – especially if you have to pitch your tent on grass or other vegetation — consider checking the ground for ticks first.  You can do this by rolling up a sleeve and slowly moving your forearm over the areas where you want to pitch your tent.  If you spot a tick on your arm, choose a different spot for pitching (obviously remove the tick on your arm).  You’d be surprised how one area can have lots of ticks but an area just a dozen feet away doesn’t have any.                                                                 **Heading out soon?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup. **[                                                               Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** ## 5. Treat Tent and Sleeping Bag with Permethrin One of the best things you can do to prevent ticks is treat your gear with permethrin.  Ticks die when they come in contact with permethrin yet it is safe for humans.  You’ll also want to treat your clothing, shoes and socks to keep ticks away.  Read more about how to apply permethrin here. ## 6. Keep Sleeping Bags Inside the Tent Cold while camping? Resist the urge to snuggle in your sleeping bag while outside the tent.  You risk getting ticks on your sleeping bag and bringing them inside the tent.  Instead, stay warm by putting on an extra layer of clothes, lighting a campfire or staying active. ## 7. Keep Dirty Clothes in Sealed Bags Ticks sometimes hang out on your clothes for days before they actually bite you.  To prevent any ticks on your clothing from escaping into the tent, keep dirty clothes in sealed bags.  Wash and dry the clothes immediately when you get back from camping. ## 8. Check for Ticks before Getting into the Tent Check *before* you turn in for the night so ticks don’t end up inside the tent.  Ideally, you would strip down naked and check your entire body.  Obviously, that’s a bit tricky to do in a public campground.  Consider doing the tick check in the campground showers or hang a privacy curtain in front of your tent.  And always have your [tick tool](https://momgoescamping.com/tick-removal-tools-humans/) handy so you can [properly remove ticks](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-remove-tick/) you find. ## 9. Try Not to Mix Outside and Inside Gear Decide which gear needs to stay in the tent (clean clothes, pajamas, sleeping bags…) and which things can remain outside (dirty clothes, day packs…). Try not to bring any gear which was outside into the tent. There could be ticks on the gear that then get into the tent.  And definitely don’t hang out in the tent in clothes which are potentially tick-infested. ## 10. Don’t Let Your Dog Sleep in the Tent Ticks can easily get on your dog and then end up in the tent.  If you really must sleep with your dog, then make sure to apply tick repellent on your dog before the trip. ## 11. Bring Duct Tape I keep some duct tape strips wrapped around my lighter.  It is great for patching rips or tears in your tent where ticks and insects could get in (duct tape is also usedful for a zillion other things when camping).  I’ve also used medical tape from my first aid kit to patch a small hole in my tent. ## Keeping Ticks Out of Your Tent FAQ: #### Can ticks get through tent mesh? Not through intact mesh, nymph and adult ticks are too big to squeeze through no-see-um netting. The problem is everything else: open doors, gear you carry in, your clothes, and your dog. Ticks almost always get into tents by hitching a ride, not by crawling through the walls. #### How long can a tick survive inside a tent? Longer than you’d like. In a humid environment, ticks can survive for days to weeks without feeding. Don’t count on a tick in your tent dying on its own before it finds you — if you spot one inside, remove it and do a thorough check of your sleeping bag and clothes. #### Does permethrin work on tents? Yes. Permethrin bonds to fabric and kills ticks on contact, and it’s one of the most effective things you can do for a tent, groundsheet, and sleeping bag. Treat your gear before the trip and let it dry completely. Never apply permethrin directly to skin, it’s for fabric and gear only. #### What should I do if I find a tick in my tent? Remove it with a tick tool or tweezers (don’t crush it with your fingers), then check your body, sleeping bag, and clothes carefully, where there’s one, there may be more. Shake out your sleeping bag and check seams and corners of the tent floor, since ticks gravitate to crevices. #### Should I spray insect repellent inside my tent? No — sprays like DEET are meant for skin and can damage tent fabrics and coatings. Prevention works better: permethrin-treat the tent beforehand, keep it zipped, and keep potentially tick-infested clothes and gear outside. **What other things can you do to keep ticks out of the tent? Let us know in the comments section.** **You may also want to read:** - [**10 Ways to Keep Ticks Away from Your Campsite**](https://momgoescamping.com/keep-ticks-away-from-campsite/) - [**Best Natural Ways to Prevent Ticks**](https://momgoescamping.com/natural-tick-prevention/) - [**Essential Oils for Ticks: Do They Work?**](https://momgoescamping.com/essential-oils-ticks/) - [**How to Remove a Tick Head Stuck in Your Skin**](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-remove-a-tick-head-stuck-in-your-skin/) --- Sources: <https://bushcraftuk.com/community/threads/help-ticks-everywhere.146383/> <https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1636884/> Image credit: “[FIRST NIGHT IN BEACON WOODS](https://www.flickr.com/photos/summonedbyfells/48757764036/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [summonedbyfells](https://www.flickr.com/people/summonedbyfells/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety --- ### [How to Tie Out a Tarp (Step-by-Step with Pictures)](https://momgoescamping.com/how-tie-out-tarp/) **Published:** September 26, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Tarp shelters can do a great job of protecting you from the elements so you have a nice night’s sleep – but only if you tie the tarp out correctly.   Below, I’ll go over the methods you can use to tie the tarp ridgeline and guylines, what to do if a grommet or loop breaks, tensioning walls, and which tarp knots to use. ## What Can Happen If You Tie Out a Tarp Incorrectly? No, tying a tarp shelter isn’t as simple as draping the tarp over some rope! If you don’t get the ridgeline and guylines tied out with the right knots, you can have these problems: - Collapsed ridgeline - Sagging - Loud flapping in wind - Water dripping - Stakes loosen - Walls gradually lose tension **Tip:** I recommend getting REFLECTIVE paracord so you don’t walk into your ridgeline or  trip on the tie-out points at night.  I’m speaking from experience here 😀  At the very least, choose a bright colored paracord — you will be less likely to lose it/forget it when packing up. ## How to Tie Out a Tarp, Step-by-Step Instructions ### 1. Decide On What Setup You Want to Use There are dozens of different tarp shelter setups.  The choice comes down to the amount of protection you need from the elements and comfort. For beginners, an A-frame shelter  or lean-to shelter is probably the best choice.  For more info, see: [**27 Best Tarp Shelter Setups (with Pictures)**](https://momgoescamping.com/tarp-shelters/) [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/tarp-shelter-setups-v1-84x300.jpg "tarp shelter setups v1 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/tarp-shelter-setups-v1.jpg) ### 2. Hang the Ridgeline The first thing you want to do is hang the tarp ridgeline.  In the pictures shown here, I’ve shown a horizontal ridgeline between two trees.  Some tarp setups require diagonal ridgelines, but the staking out method is the same. #### **Method 1: Fixed Ridgeline** - **Find two sturdy trees.** They should be approximately 10-15 feet apart, or a big further away than the length of your tarp. - **Tie rope end #1 around the first tree with a running bowline knot.** Ridgeline height depends on the size of your tarp and how much headroom you want. - **Tie rope end #2 around the second tree with a tautline hitch.** Tighten the tautline hitch to tension your ridgeline. **Also read:[ Tarp Knots](https://momgoescamping.com/tarp-knots/)** #### **Method 2: Sliding Ridgeline** This method attaches the ridgeline directly to the tarp.  You can then slide it into position.  This is great for hammock camping because you can slide the tarp exactly over your hammock. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/sliding-ridgeline-tarp-method-765x1024.jpg "sliding ridgeline tarp method - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/sliding-ridgeline-tarp-method.jpg) ### 3. Tension Tarp on the Ridgeline A lot of people just drape the tarp over the ridgeline. This is often a big mistake.  The tarp will gradually slide down the ridgeline, causing problems like sagging walls.  To prevent this, you need to tension the tarp on the ridgeline. \*If use made a sliding ridgeline, then you can skip this step. #### **Prusik Knot Method:** [![prusik for tensioning tarp guylines](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/prusik-for-tensioning-tarp-guylines-e1695725528203.jpg "prusik for tensioning tarp guylines - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/prusik-for-tensioning-tarp-guylines-e1695725528203.jpg) - Tie a prusik knot around the ridgeline. - Drape the tarp over the ridgeline. Make sure it is positioned properly! - Tie the ends of the prusik knot around the tarp’s grommet or loop. **Don’t want to untie your prusik each time?** You can also use a toggle stick, as shown in the picture below. **[![using prusik knot with toggle to tension tarp ridgeline](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/prusik-knot-with-toggle.jpg "prusik knot with toggle - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/prusik-knot-with-toggle.jpg)** ### 4. Attach Guylines You may be able to stake some points of your tarp directly to the ground.  However, it’s best to use guylines to tie and stake out the tarp. The guylines give you some flexibility (such as if you discover there’s a big rock in the ground right where you need to stake out!).  They also make it easier to tension tent walls. To attach the guylines, first locate your tie-out points for your shelter setup.  Then attach some rope. I like to use a bowline. You can also use toggle sticks, which allows you to remove the guylines easier later on. [![attach guylines to tarp](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/attach-guylines-to-tarp.jpg "attach guylines to tarp - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/attach-guylines-to-tarp.jpg) #### Tie Out Tarp with Broken/No Grommets or Loops? Grommets and loops on tarps (especially cheap tarps) are notorious for breaking.   Luckily, there are two easy fixes for this. One option is to wrap something small and smooth (like a pebble) in the tarp corner. Then tie a tautline hitch around the pebble. Another option is to use a sheet bend to tie the guyline directly to the tarp corner. [![attach guylines to tarp with no or broken grommets or loops](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/attach-guylines-to-tarp-with-no-grommets-or-loops.jpg "attach guylines to tarp with no grommets or loops - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/attach-guylines-to-tarp-with-no-grommets-or-loops.jpg) ### 5. Tie Out Tarp Guylines Like with the tarp ridgeline, it’s important that the sides of your tarp are taut.  You’ll want to use an adjustable knot like the tautline hitch to get good tension on all sides.  Otherwise your tent will sag.  If not tied out properly – such as if your knot loosens – the shelter can gradually sag on you through the night. - **Tie a tautline hitch in the free end of the guylines.** - **Pull guyline outwards.** Get it into position so it is taut but not straining the tarp material. - **Stake out guyline.** Put the stake through the tautline hitch you made. Then push stake into ground. Slide the tautline hitch up to increase tension around the stake. - **Repeat for all tie-out points.** - **Adjust tension.** Slide the tautline hitches to adjust the wall/ceiling tension of your tarp shelter. [![tie out tarp guylines](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/tie-out-tarp-guylines.jpg "tie out tarp guylines - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/tie-out-tarp-guylines.jpg) ### 6. Attach Drip Lines (Optional) A common problem with tarp shelters is that water drips down the ridgeline and falls into the shelter.  To prevent this, you can tie “drip lines” to your ridgeline.  Attach the driplines a inches from the edge of the tarp. **When you are all done, your tarp shelter setup should look like this!** [![how to tie out a tarp](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/how-to-tie-out-a-tarp.jpg "how to tie out a tarp - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/how-to-tie-out-a-tarp.jpg) --- ## Tarp Tie-Out FAQ: #### What knot should I use to tie out a tarp? The tautline hitch is the most important knot for tying out a tarp, it’s adjustable, meaning you can slide it to increase or decrease tension without untying and retying. Use it for all your guylines and the second anchor point of your ridgeline. For the first anchor point on the ridgeline, use a running bowline — it cinches tight under load and won’t slip. For attaching guylines to tarp grommets, a bowline works well. Those three knots cover 95% of tarp setup situations. #### How tight should a tarp be when tied out? Taut enough that it doesn’t sag or flap in light wind, but not so tight that you’re straining the grommet or tarp material. A good test: push gently on the tarp surface, it should give slightly and spring back, not feel like a drum skin. Over-tensioning is one of the most common reasons grommets tear out, especially on budget tarps. If you’re expecting heavy rain, slightly more tension is better since the weight of water can cause sag — but still not so tight the material is under strain. ## **Want all this info in PRINTABLE format?** My Camping Cheat Sheets have illustrated instructions for setting up a tarp, campfire cooking, wilderness first aid, and much more, all in one printable guide. **[Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** [![camping cheat sheets](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/camping-cheat-sheets-gumroad-cover-1024x362.jpg "camping cheat sheets gumroad cover - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets/tarp) [**Get the Sheets Here**](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** tarp --- ### [Lightweight Backpacking First Aid Kit Checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-first-aid-kit-checklist/) **Published:** January 20, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** As a mom who goes wild camping in remote areas with my young daughter, I take my backpacking first aid kit seriously.  Injuries like sprains and fractures are very common in the backcountry. Even minor first aid issues like diarrhea or a nasty blister can completely ruin your trip. But here’s the issue when building a backpacking first aid kit: how do you get all the items you might need without weighing down your pack? Over the years, I’ve tweaked my first aid kit quite a bit, removing unnecessary items and including more multi-purpose items to cut back on weight.  Below is the first aid kit setup I’ve ultimately settled on. **Notes:** - This first aid kit is designed assuming it might take you 1-3 days to get to civilization or for help to get to you.  For example, if you got a viral infection, the meds would sustain you for a couple of days of rest until you got better enough to trek to town. - This first aid kit weighed 9oz (256g) when completely packed.  Yes, this is fairly heavy for a lot of ultralight backpackers.  You can easily cut down weight by using half-full tubes of ointment. - If I am *traveling* in undeveloped countries, I bring [this complete travel first aid kit](https://momgoescamping.com/travel-first-aid-kit-list/). It has a lot more items but is still lightweight enough for a backpack. ## Backpacking First Aid Kit Checklist Here is a list of all items in my backpacking first aid kit **([Get a printable version here](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Lightweight-backpacking-first-aid-kit-checklist.pdf)).** I’ve broken the items into categories based on what they are used for. Keep reading for an explanation of each item and how it is used for backcountry first aid. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/backpacking-first-aid-kit-checklist-mini.jpg "backpacking first aid kit checklist mini - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Lightweight-backpacking-first-aid-kit-checklist.pdf) I keep the items organized in little baggies by what they are used for. For example, all the GI (gastrointestinal) meds are kept together.  It makes it much easier to find items when I need them. **Below is what my first aid kit looks like organized in baggies.** ![backpacking first aid kit organized in baggies](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/first-aid-kit-organized-in-baggies.jpg "first aid kit organized in baggies - Mom Goes Camping") I put all of this into a sturdy zip baggie.  If I were doing more hardcore backpacking with stream crossings, I’d get a waterproof dry sack to keep it in. [This dry sack](https://amzn.to/2RexUmF) has enough space for a first aid kit plus other important gear like headlamps.  For my purposes though, the zip baggie works fine. **Below is what the first aid kit looks like all packed.** ![first aid kit packed and weighed](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/first-aid-kit-packed-and-weighed.jpg "first aid kit packed and weighed - Mom Goes Camping") ### 1. Sterile Gauze and Trauma Pads Trauma pads, which are often impregnated with a hemostatic (blood clotting) agent, are used to apply pressure to wounds to stop bleeding.  Sterile gauze is used to make a dressing. You can also use normal sterile gauze — or any absorbent fabric you have available, like your shirt — to apply pressure. Once bleeding is under control, you would use sterile gauze to make a bandage over the wound. First cover the wound with copious amounts of antiseptic ointment (in #4).  The ointment prevents infection and keeps the gauze from sticking to the wound. Otherwise you’d break clots and restart bleeding when you went to change the dressing. After ointment, apply the gauze over the wound and hold it in place with medical tape (#2) or a triangle bandage (#3). While I’ve never had to use trauma pads or gauze on any backpacking trip (knock on wood!), if I were to need it, I would *really* need it.  So this is not something I’m skipping in my first aid kit! ### 2. Medical Tape Medical tape is a great multi-purpose backpacking item with numerous first aid uses.  Here are the main uses: - **Hold gauze in place to make a bandage.** Especially good when you have a wound in a weird place that Band-Aids will come off of. - **Treat smaller wounds by applying tape right over them.** This is what I did when I cut my feet up walking barefoot while beach camping.  Medical tape will stay in place for days or even weeks, even when it gets wet. - **Blister prevention and treatment.** If you feel a hot spot and think a blister will form, put a strip of medical tape over it. You can also tape right over blisters to prevent them from popping. - **Holding a splint in place.** Wrap the medical tape around the splint padding. You don’t want medical tape touching the skin in a broken bone situation. - **Making butterfly bandages:** If you get a deep, narrow wound (like a knife wound) which probably requires stitches, you can use medical tape to make butterfly bandages. These hold the pieces of skin closed.  See the image.  You’d still need gauze over the wound to keep it clean. You can also use medical tape for random things, like fixing tent poles or patching holes in gear.  Duct tape works better and can also be used for first aid, but I prefer medical tape. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/butterfly-bandage-title.jpg "butterfly bandage title - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/butterfly-bandage-title.jpg)*Image shows medical tape twisted into butterfly bandages for holding gaping wounds closed*                                                   **Want gourmet meals on the trail?** My dehydrator recipes ebook has 50+ calorie-dense backpacking recipes — just add hot water. **[                                                                   Get it here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck)** ### 3. Triangle Bandage A triangle bandage is another multi-purpose first aid item you might need while backpacking. If you bring a bandana or scarf, you might be able to skip the triangle bandage in your kit. **Uses for a triangle bandage include**: - **Impaled objects:** If an object gets impaled in your body, you generally shouldn’t remove it. Wrap the triangle bandage around the object to stabilize it while getting to help. - **Making a sling** - **Tie a splint in place** - **Bandage head wounds** - **Eye patch** - **Improvised tourniquet** ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/swathe.jpg "swathe - Mom Goes Camping")*Image shows how youd treat a broken forearm or wrist First the fracture is splinted then a triangle bandage is used to make a sling The arm is further immobilized with a swathe which can be made from any long bandage or piece of cloth*  ### 4. Minor Wound Kit This baggie contains: - **Adhesive bandages** - **Moleskin** for blisters - **Scissors** - **Antiseptic ointment** - **Iodine and alcohol prep pads** - **Tweezers:** For cleaning debris from wounds and [removing ticks](https://momgoescamping.com/tick-removal-tools-humans/). - **Safety pin:** For removing splinters and thorns. Can also be used to pin a triangle bandage into a sling. Some of the adhesive bandages are Band-Aids in various sizes.  I also have some which can get cut to any size – hence the mini scissors.  You could use your knife or multi-tool to cut bandages instead of the scissors, but I like to have clean scissors ready in the first aid kit.  My daughter also uses them to make nature arts and crafts while we camp. ### 5. Burn Ointment/Beeswax Salve I used to worry about my daughter falling into the campfire and getting burned.  So, I brought along burn ointment. Now that she’s older (and I’m less worried about serious burns), I have switched to bringing a beeswax salve. I get my salve from some local beekeepers who make it.  There’s an equivalent product on Amazon you can [get here](https://amzn.to/2TGq3j7). It comes in a container instead of a tube though, so you’d want to bring some Q-tips/cotton tip applicators for applying it to a wound. **The salve is amazing for lots of things, including:** - **Burns:** Apply a generous amount over a burn before putting on a bandage. The salve helps healing and keeps the bandage from sticking to the burn, important so the bandage can be changed without ripping newly-formed skin. - **Skin protection:** When [backpacking in winter](https://momgoescamping.com/winter-camping/) or cold, windy conditions, apply a layer of salve over all exposed skin. It will keep it from getting dried out and cracked. - **Sunburn** - **Lip balm** - **Dry skin** ### 6. Bite/Itch Cream This should be self-explanatory.  Seriously, backpacking is much more enjoyable when you aren’t scratching your skin until it bleeds! ### 7. Ace Bandage Sprains are one of the most common backpacking injuries.  If you want to same weight and space, you can use medical tape to bandage a sprain instead. Here’s [how to do it](https://www.physioadvisor.com.au/health/taping-techniques-lower-body/ankle/). It doesn’t provide the same level of compression or padding though, so I bring the Ace bandage to play it safe. ### 8. Medications Getting a fever when backpacking could really wipe you out.  It isn’t exactly life-or-death, but these meds can make your trip more enjoyable.  I’ve included: - **Aspirin with vitamin C:** For pain and headaches - **Ibuprofen:** For pain, headaches, and fever - **Throat lozenges:** I only bring along three.  Helpful when the cold mountain air dries out my throat. ### 9. GI Kit Does your water filter treat viruses? Do you thoroughly wash your hands before eating on the trail?  Are you careful about hygiene when backpacking? Probably not.  So it’s very possible you could catch a stomach bug. Speaking [from experience](https://momgoescamping.com/get-sick-camping/), GI issues while backpacking are absolutely no fun – and it’s hard to follow Leave No Trace when you are puking all over the trail!  I’ve got a baggie which can help solve GI issues. **The GI kit includes:** - **Electrolytes:** Diarrhea and vomiting cause dehydration, which can be incredibly dangerous. Electrolyte packets can literally save your life if you get a stomach bug and can’t keep water down. - **Probiotics**: When a stomach bug comes on, take these to alleviate symptoms and speed up recovery. - **Activated charcoal:** Very good for suspected food poisoning or infections. My tablets also have various herbs which help with gas and upset stomach.  \*Don’t take activated charcoal at the same time as other meds.  The charcoal will absorb the other meds, making them ineffective. - **Anti-diarrhea meds:** In general, it’s better to poop like crazy instead of taking these meds because diarrhea is the body’s way of expelling harmful pathogens. And you should never take these if you have bloody stool. But they are a good backup item in case you are a day’s hike from help and don’t want to crap your pants along the way. ## Additional/Optional Items Depending on the type of backpacking trip and the number of people coming, you might want to include some of these additional items. - **Q-tip/cotton tip applicators.**  I used to bring these but stopped since my antiseptic ointment comes in a tube and I can just squeeze it directly onto a wound. - **Nitrile gloves:** Wear to keep wounds clean while administering first aid or changing dressings. - **Medical Shears:** For quickly cutting clothes away from a wound. - **Tourniquet:** You can improvise a tourniquet out of a triangle bandage, bandana, torn shirt, etc.  However, improvised tourniquets don’t apply nearly as much pressure as approved ones. - **Splints:** Such as a C-splint or Sam splint - **First aid field guide book:** In case a serious injury or ailment occurs and you don’t know what to do. - **Epi-Pen:** If you have a known allergic reaction. - **Personal medications:** Bring any meds you take everyday as well as ones you take for flareups of pre-existing conditions.  For example, if you are prone to kidney stones or gallbladder issues, bring these meds just in case. - **Items for babies and children:** When I took my baby camping, I brought along a lot of other items. You can [see that checklist here](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-with-baby-checklist/). ## Backpacking First Aid Kit Tips - **It’s really annoying to pack a first aid kit before each trip.** To save time, I keep this kit packed and stored with my other backpacking gear. If any item was used during a backpacking trip, I restock it before putting the kit away so the kit is always ready to go. - **Always have an exit plan.** Broken bones, crushing falls, bear attacks… If you are seriously injured, how would you get to help?  I suggest getting an [emergency communication device,](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-communication-devices/) like the SPOT finder.  These use GPS coordinates to track your position.  With the push of a button, you can send a distress call to Mountain Rescue. - **Take a wilderness first aid course.** Mountaineering clubs and outlets like REI sometimes have these. It’s very different than a standard first aid course. - **Saving weight:** Don’t obsess so much about saving weight in your pack that you end up not bringing crucial items.  If you need to shave a few ounces, bring smaller tubes of cream.  If you must omit something, then skip the Ace bandage and triangle bandage. ![spot gen 3 SEND device](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/spot-gen-3-SEND-device.jpg "spot gen 3 SEND device - Mom Goes Camping")*The SPOT satellite messenger can be used to send a message for help regardless of where you are* ## Buying Reliable First Aid Supplies You can make your life easier by buying pre-made first aid kits.  Just be warned that most of these cheap kits contain crappy, useless items.  Like the cheap Chinese-made first aid kit I got which had medical tape which wouldn’t stick and scissors which wouldn’t cut.  In the end, I just used the bag and filled it with my own items. **If you want a pre-made first aid kit, I can recommend the three listed below:** --- **[Adventure Medical Kits Ultralight and Watertight](https://amzn.to/3aooix4):** Weighs 7.2oz an contains almost everything I have on my list.  The bag is waterproof, so good for bad weather or trips where you could possibly fall into a stream. 😉 ![adventure medical kit ultralight watertight 2](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/adventure-medical-kit-ultralight-watertight-2.jpg "adventure medical kit ultralight watertight 2 - Mom Goes Camping") --- **[Mountain Series Backpacker Medical Kit](https://amzn.to/2RCy6uZ):** Also by Adventure Medical Kits, this one is heavier at 13.6oz.  However, it has a cool water-resistant bag which opens up into compartments so you can keep gear organized.  You could cut weight by removing duplicates of some items and removing the guidebook. ![adventure medical kits backpacker first aid kit](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/medical-kit-backpacker.jpg "medical kit backpacker - Mom Goes Camping") --- **[Surviveware First Aid Kit](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CQ8JVC7/?tag=momcampnew-20&ref_=maas_adg_82A9C0AAB5F3A5925015AF4E2030E4D4_afap_abs&tag=meastus-20&ref=mm_d3380136-534c-438a-b052-61968f54e587):** This is a large first aid kit with a lot of quality items in it.  It’s meant for car camping, travel, boats, or for at-home.  But there is also a mini pouch which can be removed for backpacking trips. ![SurviveWare first aid kit](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Surviveware_Large_First_Aid_Kit.jpg "Surviveware_Large_First_Aid_Kit - Mom Goes Camping") --- ***Pin this!*** ![lightweight backpacking first aid kit](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/lightweight-backpacking-first-aid-kit-pin.jpg "lightweight backpacking first aid kit pin - Mom Goes Camping") ## Backpacking First Aid Kit FAQ: #### How heavy should a backpacking first aid kit be? For solo backpacking, aim for under 10oz for a 1–3 day kit. The kit described in this post weighs 9oz fully packed, which is a reasonable target. You can get it down to 5–6oz by using half-full tubes of ointment, omitting the Ace bandage and triangle bandage, and skipping duplicates. For group backpacking, one shared kit can cover the whole group, you don’t need everyone carrying a full kit. #### What is the most important item in a backpacking first aid kit? Medical tape, because it has the most uses of any single item and can substitute for several others. You can use it to hold gauze in place, treat blisters, make butterfly bandages for gaping wounds, and patch gear. After medical tape, the GI kit (electrolytes, probiotics, activated charcoal, anti-diarrhea meds) is the most frequently used category in the backcountry. Gastrointestinal illness is far more common than trauma on most backpacking trips, and electrolytes can prevent a bad stomach bug from becoming a dangerous dehydration situation. ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Backpacking, Camping Safety **Tags:** first aid --- ### [The Etiquette of Borrowing Camping Gear](https://momgoescamping.com/borrowing-camping-gear-etiquette/) **Published:** December 22, 2015 **Author:** Diane **Content:** ## The Complete Guide to Borrowing Camping Gear (From a Mom Who’s Been There) After 15+ years of family camping and lending out my gear to countless friends and neighbors, I’ve learned that there’s definitely a right way and a wrong way to borrow camping equipment. Let me share what I’ve discovered through both wonderful experiences and a few not-so-great ones! When I first started camping with my kids, I was that nervous mom asking to borrow everything from tents to camp chairs. Now, as someone with a garage full of camping gear, I’m usually on the other side of those conversations. Trust me when I say that following proper etiquette isn’t just about being polite – it’s about building lasting relationships and ensuring you’ll be welcomed back for future adventures. ## Why Borrowing Camping Gear Makes Perfect Sense Let’s be honest – camping gear is expensive. A decent family tent can easily cost $200-400, and that’s before you factor in sleeping bags, cooking equipment, and all the extras. If you’re new to camping or only go once or twice a year, it’s completely reasonable to borrow gear instead of making a huge financial commitment. I actually love it when people ask to borrow my camping gear. Every time I lend out equipment, I’m potentially helping create a new camping family. Some of my best camping buddies today started by borrowing my gear for their very first trip! **Also read:** [How much does camping cost?](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-cost/) ## The Golden Rules of Camping Gear Borrowing Etiquette ### 1. It’s Perfectly Fine to Ask (But Ask Thoughtfully) Don’t be embarrassed about asking to borrow camping gear – most experienced campers remember what it was like starting out. However, be specific about what you need and when you need it. Instead of saying “Can I borrow some camping stuff?” try “Would you mind if I borrowed a 4-person tent and two sleeping bags for our trip to \[specific location\] from \[dates\]?” Give your friend at least 2-3 weeks notice if possible. This gives them time to check their own camping calendar and ensure the gear will be available. **Pro tip:** Offer something in return, even if it’s just bringing them a souvenir from your trip or cooking them dinner when you return the gear. ### 2. Know Your Limits (And Respect Expensive Equipment) Here’s something I learned the hard way: not all camping gear should be borrowed by beginners. I once lent my $300 down sleeping bag to a friend who had never used a compression sack before. Let’s just say it didn’t end well for the sleeping bag. Be honest about your experience level. If you’ve never set up a tent before, don’t borrow someone’s lightweight backpacking tent that requires specific setup techniques. Similarly, expensive items like high-end headlamps, GPS devices, or specialized cooking equipment are probably best left for when you have more experience. [![damaged tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/damaged_tent.jpg "damaged_tent - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/damaged_tent.jpg) *What happens when inexperienced campers borrow delicate equipment* ### 3. Always Do a Gear Test Run Together This is absolutely crucial and cannot be skipped. I always insist on doing a “gear demo” session with anyone borrowing my equipment. We set up the tent in my backyard, go through the sleeping bag stuff sacks, test all the flashlights and headlamps, and run through the camp stove operation. During this session, I share the quirks that every piece of gear has. For example, my favorite tent has a rain fly that needs to be attached in a specific order, and my camp stove’s igniter only works about half the time (so you need matches as backup). This testing session serves multiple purposes: - You learn how to properly use the equipment - You discover if anything is missing or broken before you leave - You get comfortable with the gear in a low-pressure environment - The owner can share specific care instructions ### 4. Create a Detailed Inventory List I can’t stress this enough – write everything down! And I mean everything. Don’t just write “tent” – write “REI Co-op Kingdom 6 tent with rainfly, footprint, and stuff sack.” Include brand names, models, colors, and any distinctive features. Take photos of expensive items or anything with unique characteristics. This protects both you and the owner if something goes missing or gets damaged. I’ve seen friendships strained because someone returned a “similar” item instead of the exact one they borrowed. Here’s a sample inventory format I use: - **Item:** Coleman 4-Person Dome Tent - **Color:** Blue with gray rainfly - **Included accessories:** Rainfly, stakes (12 total), guy lines, repair kit - **Condition when borrowed:** Excellent, small stain on left side panel - **Return date:** \[Date\] ### 5. Master the Art of Tent Care Tents are the most commonly borrowed camping item, and they’re also the most commonly damaged. Here’s what you need to know: **During your trip:** - Always use a footprint or tarp under the tent - Keep shoes and dirty items in the vestibule, not inside the tent - Be gentle with zippers – don’t force them - If it rains, give the tent time to dry before packing up (even if it means a late checkout) **After your trip:** - Set up the tent immediately when you get home (even if you’re tired!) - Shake out all dirt, leaves, and debris - Wipe down any mud or sticky spots with a damp cloth - Let it air dry completely – this can take 6-24 hours depending on humidity - Check for any damage and address it immediately Trust me, I’ve received tents back that were packed wet and developed mold. It’s not a fun conversation to have with a friend.                                                       **Heading out soon?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup — print them before you go. **[                                                         Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** ### 6. Handle Sleeping Bags with Special Care Sleeping bags require different care depending on their type. Down sleeping bags are particularly finicky and expensive to replace. Here’s what I tell everyone who borrows my sleeping bags: **Before washing:** Always, always, always ask the owner about washing instructions. Even if the tag says it’s machine washable, the owner might have specific preferences. Some people only trust certain detergents, or they might want to wash expensive bags themselves. **General sleeping bag care:** - Air them out daily during your trip - Don’t eat inside the sleeping bag - Keep it as dry as possible - Store it uncompressed when you return it I once had someone return a sleeping bag that smelled like campfire smoke and had s’mores residue inside. It needed professional cleaning, which cost more than they probably expected. ### 7. Power Up: Battery and Electronic Care Modern camping involves more electronics than ever before. Headlamps, lanterns, portable chargers, GPS devices – they all need power. Here’s proper electronic gear etiquette: - Fully charge everything before your trip - Bring backup batteries if the device uses them - Clean battery contacts if they get corroded - Fully recharge devices before returning them - Test that everything works when you return it Nothing’s worse than planning a camping trip only to discover your borrowed headlamp is dead and you have no way to charge it. ## What to Do When Things Go Wrong Despite your best intentions, accidents happen. I’ve had gear returned broken, lost, or damaged, and I’ve also been on the other side when I accidentally damaged someone else’s equipment. Here’s how to handle these situations gracefully: ### If You Damage Something 1. **Be honest immediately:** Don’t try to hide damage or hope they won’t notice. Call or text as soon as you discover the problem. 2. **Take responsibility:** Even if it wasn’t entirely your fault, you were using their gear. 3. **Offer to replace it:** Research the exact replacement cost and offer to pay for it immediately. 4. **Go above and beyond:** Consider upgrading to a newer model or throwing in something extra to show your appreciation. I once had someone tear my rainfly on a branch. They immediately texted me, researched the replacement part, and had it ordered before they even got home. They also brought me a nice bottle of wine and a detailed story about their trip. That’s how you handle a mistake with class. ### If You Lose Something Lost gear happens, especially small items like tent stakes or guy lines. The key is being proactive: - Search thoroughly before declaring something lost - Contact the campground – they might have a lost and found - Replace lost items with the exact same product if possible - If you can’t find the exact item, upgrade to something better ## Building Long-Term Borrowing Relationships Want to ensure you can continue borrowing gear for future trips? Here are some ways to be the borrower everyone wants to help: ### The Return Experience Make returning gear as pleasant as the borrowing experience: - Return everything clean and dry - Pack items the same way they were given to you - Return promptly – don’t make them ask for their gear back - Include a small thank-you gift or gesture - Share highlights from your trip with photos ### Reciprocate When Possible Even if you don’t have camping gear to lend back, find other ways to reciprocate: - Offer to help with gear maintenance or organization - Share your new camping knowledge and research - Invite them on future camping trips - Help them with non-camping favors ## When to Stop Borrowing and Start Buying There comes a point when it makes more sense to invest in your own gear. Here are signs it might be time to make the transition: - You’re camping more than 3-4 times per year - You’ve developed strong preferences for specific gear types - You’re having to plan trips around gear availability - You want to try more challenging camping (backpacking, winter camping) - You have the budget to invest in quality gear When you do start buying your own gear, remember how helpful it was when people lent to you. Pay it forward by being generous with your own equipment! ## Special Considerations for Different Types of Gear ### Cooking Equipment - Clean thoroughly after each use - Check that all pieces are included (lids, utensils, etc.) - Test gas connections and burners before your trip - Return propane canisters with fuel if you didn’t use them completely ### Backpacks and Bags - Empty all pockets and compartments - Check for and remove any food residue that might attract animals - Adjust straps back to their original position - Clean zippers if they got dirty or sandy ### Coolers - Clean thoroughly with soap and water - Let dry completely before returning to prevent odors - Check that drain plugs and latches work properly - Return any ice packs or accessories that came with it [![family camping gear list](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/family-gear-800-420.jpg "family gear for camping - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/family-gear-800-420.jpg)This is what backpacking gear + clothes looks like for a family of four kids 4 and 11 at the time ## Final Thoughts: It’s All About Respect and Gratitude At the end of the day, borrowing camping gear etiquette comes down to treating other people’s belongings with respect and showing genuine gratitude for their generosity. When someone lends you their gear, they’re not just giving you equipment – they’re sharing their passion for the outdoors and trusting you with items that help create their own family memories. I’ve built some of my strongest friendships through sharing camping gear. Some of my favorite camping memories involve trips where we combined everyone’s gear and figured out creative solutions together. The camping community is incredibly generous and welcoming, but that spirit only continues when we all do our part to maintain these relationships. Remember, every piece of camping gear has stories attached to it. That tent might have sheltered someone through their first thunderstorm. That sleeping bag might have kept their kid warm during a unexpectedly cold night. When you borrow these items, you’re becoming part of those stories. So be the borrower who makes lenders excited to help the next person. Follow these etiquette guidelines, show appreciation, and most importantly, use that borrowed gear to create amazing outdoor memories with your own family. Happy camping! ### Borrowing Camping Gear FAQ #### How do I ask someone to borrow camping gear without it being awkward? Be specific and give plenty of notice. “Can I borrow some camping stuff?” puts the burden on them to figure out what you need. “Would you be willing to lend me your 4-person tent for a weekend trip to \[location\] on \[dates\]? I’d return it clean and ready to use” is easy to answer yes or no to. Most experienced campers are genuinely happy to help new campers, they remember borrowing gear themselves. The awkwardness usually comes from vague requests, short notice, or not having a clear return plan. #### Who is responsible if borrowed camping gear gets damaged? The person borrowing the gear is responsible, full stop. Even if the damage was accidental, even if it was weather-related, even if it was something you had no control over. When you borrow someone’s gear, you’re accepting responsibility for returning it in the same condition. The right move is to contact the owner immediately when damage happens, research the exact replacement cost, and offer to pay for it without being asked. Trying to hide damage or return damaged gear without mentioning it is the fastest way to end a friendship. **Also check out:** [Camping Checklist (Printable)](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-checklist-family/) --- *Have you had experiences borrowing or lending camping gear? Share your stories and tips in the comments below! And if this post helped you, please share it with other families who might be considering their first camping trip.* ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** camping on a budget, gear --- ### [What Is a Remote Canister Backpacking Stove?](https://momgoescamping.com/remote-gas-canister-backpacking-stove/) **Published:** May 26, 2024 **Author:** Diane **Content:** For nearly five years, I used the same Primus Express canister stove for backpacking. After enduring lots of abuse, I finally had to put it to rest (flames were coming from places they shouldn’t!). I went to my local outdoor store, saw a remote canister stove on sale and impulsively bought it. Now that I have the remote stove, I wish I would have gotten one a lot sooner. ## What is a Remote Canister Stove? [![remote gas canister backpacking stove](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/remote-stove-backpacking.jpg "remote stove backpacking - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/remote-stove-backpacking.jpg) Remote canister stoves have a length of hose that connects the gas canister to the burner. By contrast, the more-common “integrated” type of stove screws directly on top of the gas canister. There are several benefits to the remote design, particularly that you can use a full windscreen and larger pots. Most remote stoves can also be used as inverted stoves. **Tip:** If you already have an integrated backpacking stove, you can get the [MSR Low Down adapter](https://amzn.to/3WWX6jD) to turn it into a remote stove. ### Can Use a Full Windscreen Because remote canister stoves keep the burner and canister apart from each other, it is possible to use a full windscreen without risk of explosion. With integrated canister stoves, you cannot use a full windscreen. Surrounding the canister may cause it to overheat and explode! Even without a windscreen, remote canister stoves perform better in the wind. They are low to the ground, and windspeed is less down low. There are also more natural windbreaks at ground level. **Note:** There are also some windscreens for canister stoves, but they have problems like only being compatible with specific brands or only fitting narrow pots. I’ve improvised solutions for this (see my [cheap DIY canister windscreen](https://momgoescamping.com/diy-windscreen-canister-stove/) here), but it’s not great. [![homemade windscreen](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/final-windscreen.jpg "final windscreen - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/final-windscreen.jpg)My DIY gas canister windscreen is far from ideal but wont make the canister explode ### Easier to Balance Large Pots Remote gas canister stoves are much lower to the ground. The lower center of gravity on a remote stove makes it much easier to balance large pots on top of it. They are also easier to use on uneven ground because the stove rests on legs, and not the round fuel canister. Many remote stoves also have larger-diameter cooking surfaces, so are suitable for using with large pots and skillets. In short, it is *much* easier to use large, heavy pots with a remote gas canister stove, so less chance of your dinner toppling over and ending up hungry! **Burner Height:** - **Remote stove:** ~2.5 inches. - **Integrated stove (on 8oz canister):** ~6.7 inches - **Integrated stove (on 16oz canister): ~**9 inches [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/high-center-of-gravity.jpg "high center of gravity - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/high-center-of-gravity.jpg)This pot is just waiting to fall over ### More Efficient Not only can remote stoves be used with full windscreens to make them more efficient, but you can put a heat reflector underneath them as well to increase efficiency. Fuel is expensive and canisters are heavy, so anything that saves fuel is great! [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/remote-stove-efficiency.jpg "remote stove efficiency - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/remote-stove-efficiency.jpg)Saving fuel with a heat reflector while making coffee ### Turn into Multi-Fuel Stove The MSR WhisperLite Universal and Optimus Polaris Multifuel can be used with gas canisters or liquid fuels. Primus remote stoves have conversion kits available that allow you to use the stove with canisters or liquid fuels. The setups kits are not cheap. However, it ends up being cheaper than buying separate canister and multi-fuel stoves.                                                **Want gourmet meals on the trail?** My dehydrator recipes ebook has 50+ calorie-dense backpacking recipes — just add hot water. **[                                                                  Get it here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck)** ## Remote Stoves vs. Inverted Stoves ![inverted backpacking gas canister stove](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/msr-inverted-stove-copy.jpg "msr inverted stove - Mom Goes Camping") An inverted backpacking stove has a preheating coil that turns liquid fuel into gas. It usually looks like a little loop of metal that goes from the fuel hose through the flame. This feature allows you to flip your gas canister upside down. **All inverted backpacking stoves are remote stoves, but not all remote stoves are inverted stoves: they must have the preheating coil.** ### Why would you want to invert your gas canister? **Use in Cold Temperatures** Gas canister stoves don’t perform well in cold temperatures. It has to do with how pressure levels in the stove change as the temperature drops. Butane fuel fails at 31ºF, and isobutane fuel fails around 11ºF. With mixed fuel, expect failure at around 20ºF. Inverted backpacking stoves solve this problem. When you turn the gas canister upside down, it forces the liquid fuel into the hose. The liquid fuel reaches the stove and the pre-heating coil converts the liquid fuel into gas so the stove can burn it. I admittedly have never had to use this (I generally don’t camp overnight in those temps!), and you are better off using a liquid-fuel stove if you do plan on backpacking in the extreme cold, but plenty of backpackers swear by the remote gas stove trick. **Get the Last Drops of Fuel from Your Canister** If your canister is almost empty, you can invert the canister. This forces the last drops of fuel to the stove, so you get a bit more burn out of it. **Warning:** Do not invert the gas canister if your remote stove doesn’t have a pre-heating coil. It will create massive, erratic flames and can be a major hazard! ## Downsides of Remote Stoves **Heavier:** The main downside to remote gas canister stoves is that they are usually ~4oz heavier than an integrated gas canister stove, and slightly larger to pack.  For example, the Optimus Vega remote stove weighs 6.3oz whereas the Optimus Crux only weighs 2.5oz. Hardcore ultralight backpackers might object to the extra weight. However, you can’t use a full windscreen with an integrated stove, so it’s debatable whether it is really heavier since you may have to bring a larger fuel canister to compensate for the inefficiency. **Hose Durability:** Another potential downside of remote stoves is durability. The hose on my remote stove is permanently attached. I worry that it will eventually fray or break over time. I’m careful to pack it carefully in my pot to avoid damaging it.  Some brands have detachable replacement hoses and replacements available, but replacement hoses aren’t cheap. ## Remote Canister Stove FAQ: #### What is the difference between a remote canister stove and an integrated canister stove? An integrated canister stove screws directly on top of the fuel canister, the whole setup is one tall unit. A remote canister stove has a hose that separates the burner from the canister, so the burner sits low on the ground with the canister off to the side. Remote stoves are lower, more stable with large pots, can use a full windscreen safely, and can be inverted for cold-weather use, but they weigh 3–5oz more and pack bulkier than integrated stoves. #### Can I use a remote canister stove in cold weather? Better than an integrated stove, yes, but only if it’s an inverted stove with a preheating coil. Standard gas canisters underperform in cold temperatures because the pressure inside the canister drops as the fuel level drops and temperature falls. An inverted stove forces liquid fuel through the hose where the preheating coil vaporizes it before combustion, bypassing the pressure problem. For truly extreme cold (below 0°F/-18°C), a dedicated liquid-fuel stove like the MSR WhisperLite Universal is still more reliable than any canister stove system. ## The Verdict: If you are backpacking with a partner so are using a large pot, or like to prepare gourmet meals on trips, it is worth it to get a remote stove instead of an integrated one.  If you are a gram weenie who mostly just boils water for meals in non-windy environments, then go with an integrated one. ## Best Remote Gas Canister Stoves - **Ultralight option:** The titanium Fire Maple is the lightest weight remote gas canister stove and performs well, but the cooktop is small. It powerful but loud. - **Best for large pots:** The cheap Olicamp Generator has a large 6.7″ diameter top, but it can’t be used as an inverted stove.  The Primus Gravity is also good because it has four legs for better stability. - **Multifuel option:** The Optimus Polaris lets you easily switch between canisters and liquid fuel, and it’s lightweight. ### Comparison \[table id=99 /\] \*The total setup is 600g. Just the stove and hose are ~6.7oz. \*\*This weight for the Primus Gravity includes the lighter. \*\*\*The total setup is 11.6oz. The stove and hose should weigh under 9oz. (If you have the exact weight, let me know please!) --- ###### Sources: <https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Isobutane> <https://www.jstor.org/stable/44469170> ###### Image credits: “[Primus Omnifuel Stove](https://www.flickr.com/photos/travelling_two/5015158471/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [travelling two](https://www.flickr.com/people/travelling_two/), “[My one great luxury camping item – worth](https://www.flickr.com/photos/marcusjb/2642828053/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [marcus\_jb1973](https://www.flickr.com/people/marcusjb/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [Top Ultralight Solar Chargers Reviewed (From 3.6oz)](https://momgoescamping.com/best-ultralight-solar-panels/) **Published:** April 3, 2019 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Need an ultralight solar charger for backpacking or a thru-hiking trip? Here’s a thorough review of the best options based on overall weight, power-to-weight ratio, and features. Most of the backpacking solar panels here are under 1lb.  Honestly, it’s hard to find a solar panel charger that weighs less than 1lb, but will still reliably charge your devices (if it doesn’t work, it’s just dead weight!). I’ve also included some solar chargers which are heavier but more powerful.  These could still be considered ultralight if you are backpacking in group and will share the weight between members. **Quick Picks:** - **Best Ultralight Solution:** **[Lixada 10W](https://amzn.to/2FcVblw)** - **Runner Up: [Anker PowerPort 15W](https://amzn.to/39IcEBN)** - **Budget Pick: [ECEEN 13W](https://www.amazon.com/ECEEN-Charger-Foldable-Smartphones-Speakers/dp/B07LGVHHHN?th=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=mgc-power-20&linkId=b276cfa0c0ad9f410c1c16623a39a71a&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl)** ### Comparison \*You want *more* watts per ounce with backpacking solar chargers. \[table id=34 /\] ## Best Ultralight Solar Chargers for Backpacking ### 1. Lixada 10W Solar Charger ![lixada backpacking solar charger](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/lixada-backpacking-solar-charger.jpg "lixada backpacking solar charger - Mom Goes Camping") **Best For:** Insanely cheap and lightweight solution for backpackers who understand solar #### **Specs:** - **Watts:** 10W - **Amps:** 1.2 - **Weight:** 3.56oz - **Size:** 10.2 x 5.5 inches - **Auto Reset:** No - **Ports:** 1 USB-A - **Amps:** 1A - **Cost:**  $ – [Buy Here](https://amzn.to/2FcVblw) #### **Review:**  Lixada is a Chinese brand that makes a lot of cheap but insanely lightweight backpacking gear. Where most Chinese brands are unreliable, Lixada actually makes good products. They have gotten a bit of a cult following in the UL community. At 3.56oz, the 10W Lixada solar charger gives you the most power per weight of any of the backpacking solar chargers reviewed here. You can even reduce the weight even more by shaving off some of the plastic, but then you will lose the tie-on points for attaching it to your pack (see a [picture of the reduced Lixada](https://imgur.com/tyklt74) here). The Lixada solar panel is very cheap. Considering the price, it isn’t surprising that the Lixada lacks some high-tech features. Most noteably: - **No auto-reset feature:** It will stop charging if a cloud passes over it.  You’ll have to unplug the device and replug to get it to start charging again. - **No reserve-charge blocking diode:** It can actually draw power from your device in low-light situations.  Because of this, I wouldn’t ‘use the Lixada to directly charge devices when the sunlight is low.  It’s more reliable for charging a power bank and then using that to power your devices. - **Not flexible:** The Lixada solar panel isn’t very flexible, so you need to be careful about not cracking it if carrying on top of your pack. - **No pouch:** There is no pouch for holding your device, so you have to get creative with how to attach the device without the cable falling. #### **Optimizing the Lixada Setup:** The USB outlet port is on the edge of the Lixada solar charger. This isn’t an issue if you will just use it at base camp, then it works fine. However, if you want to attach it to your pack, the USB outlet position can be problematic. Each time you take your pack off, you will jostle the cable and Lixada USB socket. Over time, it can cause the sensitive USB socket to break. **The solution?** - **Get a 90-degree USB-adapter** (something [like this](https://amzn.to/3W1AIDw)). This will position the cable behind the solar panel so it doesn’t jut out. In this setup, the hiker also used cables to keep the power bank in place. - **Put a little piece electrical tape between the USB outlet housing and adapter.** This prevents it from jiggling and gives more security. **You can see a [picture of the setup here](https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOqL8mPYPt98UTf91m_7i_eE0JM5ZOE9CrYmOeHJSDwYw1bN1lT_NSddERXWmvrOw?key=bEhjNTVPcEU5Y0gzNTJtREVJSEkxcXp3VG5wUWN3).** The blue is a piece of insulation, which helps prevent the power bank from overheating from contact with the solar panel. **[Buy the Lixada Charger Here](https://amzn.to/2FcVblw)** **Note:** The solar panel is sometimes sold under different brand names (like “Docooler”). This is common with Chinese gear. --- ### 2. Lixada 5W\* Black Solar Charger **Best For:** An even lighter solar charger, but with less power #### **Specs:** - **Watts:** 10W\* (actually 5W) - **Weight:** 2.8oz - **Size** 8.1×5.6 x0.3in - **Auto reset:** No - **Ports:** 1 x USB - **Amps:** 2.1A - **Cost:** $ – [Buy here ](https://amzn.to/3LgCA6H) #### **Review:** Lixada also makes this UL solar charger that weighs just 2.8oz. It claims to be a 10W solar charger, but realistically only is 5W.  Even in direct sunlight, you probably won’t get more than 3.5W out of it.  If you keep that in mind–and primarily use it in sunny climates–then it is a great solar panel for backpacking.  Like the other 10W Lixada, it also doesn’t have auto-reset or blocking diodes, but is very cheap. Just like with the model above, you’ll want to modify it with a U-shaped USB connector. Otherwise, the USB socket might break unless you baby it. **[Buy Here ](https://amzn.to/3LgCA6H)** --- ### 3. Anker PowerPort Solar Lite ![anker solr lite solar charger](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/anker-solr-lite-solar-charger-1.jpg "anker solr lite solar charger - Mom Goes Camping") **Best For:** Fantastic power-to-weight ratio plus great features #### **Specs:** - **Watts:** 15W - **Weight:** 12.5oz - **Size:**11 × 6.3 in. folded / 18.1 × 11 in open - **Auto reset:** Yes - **Ports:** 2 x USB - **Amps:** 2.1 each (2.1A max) - **Cost:** $$ – [Buy 15W here ](https://amzn.to/39IcEBN) #### **Review:** In pretty much every list of the top portable solar chargers, the Anker PowerPort  takes the #1 spot.  There is good reason for this.  The solar charger is very reliable, durable, and is lightweight for its wattage.  It’s easy to use on the trail because there are elastic loops for attaching the solar charger to your pack and a pocket for holding your devices. There are two versions of the charger which are good for backpacking: 15W and 21W.  Of the two, the 21W is definitely superior.  It only weighs a tiny bit more but will actually charge two devices at the same time.   At 2.4A per port, it’s fairly fast – though note you’ll only get a max of 3A when charging two devices at once.  Unfortunately, it is often unavailable. If you have perfect sunlight and angle it well, then you *maybe* could charge two devices at once with the 15W.  But it’s a lot faster with the 21W charger. Unfortunately, **Anker solar chargers are often out of stock,** which is why the Lixada gets the #1 spot. The charging ports are locating inside a canvas pouch, which means the solar charger is (mostly) water resistant. One slight annoying thing is that the Anker PowerPort charger closes with Velcro (which gets debris stuck in it).  I’d rather have a magnetic closure instead. **[Buy 15W Here](https://amzn.to/39IcEBN) and [Buy 21W Here](https://amzn.to/2SC39Ia)** --- ### **4. Goal Zero Nomad Solar Chargers** ![Goal Zero Nomad 5 solar charger](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/goal-zero-nomad-5.jpg "goal zero nomad 5 - Mom Goes Camping") **Best** For: Use with Flip 24 power bank, or backpackers who don’t mind a higher weight-per-ounce in exchange for more reliability. #### **Specs:** - **Watts:** 5w/10W/20W - **Weight:** 12.7oz/17.6oz/33.6oz - **Size:** 9.5 x 7. X 1.1 inches (5w) - **Auto Reset:** Yes - **Ports:** 1x1A/1×1.5A/1×2.1A + 8mm 1.3A solar port - **Cost:**  $$ – See price here at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3OfDf86) and here at [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dgoal%2Bzero%2Bsolar%2Bpanel). #### **Review:** The Goal Zero Nomad used to be considered the best backpacking solar chargers.  Now there are many other better options when it comes to weight. When you look at the amount of watts per ounce, the **Goal Zero chargers are actually really heavy**.  The 5W charger is very slow. If you are set on getting a Goal Zero Nomad charger, than I’d get the 10W or 20W.  They aren’t lightweight enough for most backpackers but deliver more power and are chainable. There is some good though.  **Goal Zero Nomad chargers are very reliable**.  The tech does a good job of matching charge output to device.  You won’t have to worry about the auto-reset not working or the charger draining your device if you let it sit too long.  Goal Zero solar chargers are also waterproof to IPX6. The best thing about the Goal Zero Nomad chargers is that the outlet port is one the *back* of the panel, as oppossed to along the side. That means you are less likely to bang the cable and damage the port. It is also designed for the Goal Zero Flip 24 power bank to fit perfectly behind it. **Get it [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3OfDf86) or [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dgoal%2Bzero%2Bsolar%2Bpanel)** --- ### **5. ECEEN 13w Solar Charger** ![ECEEN solar charger](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/eceen.jpg "eceen - Mom Goes Camping") **Best For:** Hikers who want a very cheap solar charger that works well enough in good weather **Specs:** - **Watts:** 13 - **Amps:** 2 - **Weight:** 16oz - **Size:** 7×12.75×1″ folded, 14×12.75” open - **Auto Reset:** Yes - **Ports:** 2x USB-A - **Amps:** 2A max - **Cost:** $ – **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/ECEEN-Charger-Foldable-Smartphones-Speakers/dp/B07LGVHHHN?th=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=mgc-power-20&linkId=b276cfa0c0ad9f410c1c16623a39a71a&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl)** **Review:** The [ECEEN ](https://www.amazon.com/ECEEN-Charger-Foldable-Smartphones-Speakers/dp/B07LGVHHHN?th=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=mgc-power-20&linkId=b276cfa0c0ad9f410c1c16623a39a71a&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl)is one of the cheapest solar chargers you can get which is still lightweight enough for backpacking. Considering how cheap this backpacking solar charger is, it surprisingly has a (mostly) reliable auto-reset feature.  It’s also waterproof, durable, and easily straps to your pack. Now for the bad.  The ECEEN does charge in full sun but won’t charge at all – not even a trickle – in low light. It’s also unrealistic to expect to charge two devices at once.  The 2amps is only for ideal conditions and even then it won’t charge at a full 1amp per connection. Don’t bother with this solar panel for backpacking trips in fall, spring, or which will take you through shady forests. **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/ECEEN-Charger-Foldable-Smartphones-Speakers/dp/B07LGVHHHN?th=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=mgc-power-20&linkId=b276cfa0c0ad9f410c1c16623a39a71a&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl)** --- ### 6.  Voltaic Arc 10W Solar Charger ![Voltaic Arc 10W solar charger for backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/voltaic-arc-10-solar-charger.jpg "voltaic arc 10 solar charger - Mom Goes Camping") **Best For:** Another budget solar charge for charging in sunny weather **Specs:** - **Watts:** 10W - **Weight:** 10.9oz - **Size:** Folded 10×6.4”, Open 10×13” - **Auto Reset:** Yes - **Ports:** 1 x USB-A - **Amps:** 1.8 - **Cost:**  $ – [Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01K6L1YWA/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B01K6L1YWA&linkId=e5b7a35cdc9c7cfe24a83a73c5e46930) The Voltaic Arc 10W solar charger seems fantastic at first glance. The watts-per-ounce is good and it’s a nice compact size. In clear skies and bright sun, the charging is actually very good.   But, as soon as the weather gets a bit cloudy, the performance on the Arc 10W charger gets VERY slow. I also don’t like that the charging port is completely exposed.  You’ll need to be careful that it doesn’t get wet or dirty. There’s also no pocket for holding your device while charging. **[Get It Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01K6L1YWA/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B01K6L1YWA&linkId=e5b7a35cdc9c7cfe24a83a73c5e46930)** --- ### 7. BigBlue 28W Solar Charger ![BigBlue solar charger for backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/bigblue-solar-charger-for-backpacking.jpg "bigblue solar charger for backpacking - Mom Goes Camping") **Best For:** Backpackers with high energy demands or traveling in a group #### **Specs:** - **Watts:** 28W - **Weight:** 23.8oz - **Size:** Folded 11.1×6.3×1.3in; Unfolded size: 33.1×11.1×0.2in - **Auto Reset:** Yes - **Ports:** 2xUSB-A - **Amps:** 2.4A each, 4A max - **Cost:**  S$ – [Buy Here](https://amzn.to/3n9Odju) #### **Review:** At 28W, the Big Blue solar charger is probably too large for most backpackers. But, if you have high power needs or there are multiple people in your group to share the weight, this is one of the best solar chargers you can get. It has a lot of nice tech features like overcharge protection and the auto-reset features works.  The solar panels are actually efficient.  And, while you will never get 100% of the advertised charging amount, it performs better than most other solar chargers. Do note that there doesn’t seem to be a blocking diode on the charger.  If you leave a device attached to the charger in low-light conditions, it will *drain* your battery instead of charging it.  You’ll need to unplug it in overcast weather, especially if multiple devices are attached. Note: This charger is *not* compatible with the iPod Pro. [**Get It Here**](https://amzn.to/3n9Odju) --- ### 8. SunJack 15W Solar Charger ![sunjack solar charger 15w for backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/sunjack-15w-2.jpg "sunjack 15w 2 - Mom Goes Camping") **Best For:** Overall great solution for charging two devices at once #### **Specs:** - **Watts:** 15W - **Weight:** 15.2oz - **Size:** Folded 10.5x 6.5 x 1.2, open 20×10.5 - **Auto Reset:** Yes - **Ports:** 2 x USB-A - **Amps:** 4A (2 per port) - **Cost:**  $$ – [Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UK567ZC/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00UK567ZC&linkId=f923d41ffbf77bec65e051afa68a4872) #### **Review:** While they don’t get as much attention as Anker or Goal Zero, SunJack is a very reputable brand of solar chargers.  The weight is pretty good, especially considering how durable the solar charger is.  It is (mostly) waterproof. There’s a mesh pocket for protecting your devices and the charging port.  The elastic band for holding your device in place is a nice touch.  I also like that they use a magnetic closure instead of annoying Velcro. The technology behind the solar charger also seems to deliver as promised. It will actually charge two devices at 2A each in good sunlight.  There is smart overcharge protection too.  I would have listed this higher in my picks but **it is often out of stock**. **[Get It Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UK567ZC/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00UK567ZC&linkId=f923d41ffbf77bec65e051afa68a4872)** --- ## Do You Even Need a Solar Charger for Backpacking? Backpacking solar chargers are cool devices but, for most short trips, you really don’t need one.  For most backpackers, a lightweight power bank is the better solution. **Compared to solar chargers, power banks are:** - **Reliable:** They work regardless of the conditions - **Cheaper:** You can get a lightweight power bank for $20-$40 - **More durable:** Solar chargers need to be babied so you don’t scratch or crack them - **Usually lighter weight:** Most solar charger setups still require you to have a power bank. So, it usually ends up being lighter to just bring a higher capacity power bank than a solar setup. **Solar chargers make sense when:** - **There is a lot of sunlight:** And you’ll attach the solar charger to your pack or leave it at base camp to make use of the sunlight. - **You’re thru-hiking and don’t want to waste time recharging in town.** It’s much better to have a solar charger than waste hours in town looking for an available outlet and waiting for your power bank to recharge! - **The weight of the solar charger is less than a larger power bank:** You’ll have to do the math, but solar chargers often make sense when you’d need a power bank over 20,000mAh– such as if you have photo gear. - **You like playing with tech:** If you will have fun doing things like checking a multi-meter to get the ideal charging conditions, then solar makes sense. **See these [top ultralight power banks for backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/best-backpacking-power-banks/).** ## Tips for Using Lightweight Solar Chargers when Backpacking ### Inadequate Wattage = Dead Weight Want a backpacking solar charger which weighs under 12oz? You’ll be hard pressed to find a setup which offers more than 5 watts of power. As a general rule, you will need at least 10 watts in order to *reliably* charge phones and other small devices while backpacking.  Anything less than 10 watts means it will take forever to charge a device – even in ideal conditions! Also note that some devices won’t charge at low power.  Nokia phones, for example, require 120mAh to start charging.  If the low-watt solar panel can’t produce this amount, then the phone won’t charge at all. In a nutshell? **An ultralight solar panel might not meet your power needs. It’s better to carry a few more ounces for gear which actually works than lug around dead weight.** ### Look At Watts Per Ounce Don’t make the mistake of just looking at the overall weight of a solar charger. Instead, you need to look at the *watts per ounce.* The more watts per ounce, the lighter the solar charger really is. For example, the Anker PowerPort is 13.7oz but has 21 watts.  The Goal Zero Nomad 5 is lighter at 12.7oz, but only is 5 watts.  As talked about above, it’s usually better to carry a few extra ounces and have a charger capable of doing the job. ### Optimize Your Solar Setup - **Use a multi-meter:** A multi-meter will let you know how how much power the solar charger is creating and how much is going to your device. There are small, lightweight multi-meters (like [this USB multi-meter](https://amzn.to/4eQTO8l)) you can take with you.  At least, practice with one *before* your trip so you get a grasp on how to best angle your charger. - **Create a sun dial:** Use a little piece of plastic to make a sun dial so you know how to angle the charger. Here is an [example](ttps://i.imgur.com/IDCJXkp.jpg). - **Use good cables:** Seriously, quality cables can make a huge difference when it comes to charge speed! - **Bring lots of cables, clips and electrical tape:** These will come in handy for attaching your solar charger to your pack (or a tree, tent, etc), and securing cables in place. ### Are Your Devices Trickle-Charge Compatible? Solar chargers deliver variable power, and often very low amounts of power. Devices which aren’t trick-charge compatible won’t charge well in these conditions. An iPhone, for example, is notoriously bad for solar charging. If you plug an iPhone into a solar panel to charge in cloudy weather, the screen will start flashing “charging”.  This flashing can drain the battery faster than you can recharge it with the solar panel. You’d need a very large solar panel to directly charge finicky devices in cloudy weather.  By contrast, power banks are usually pretty good when it comes to trickle charging with solar. You can get by with a smaller solar panel to charge the power bank, and then use the power bank to charge devices. Yes, you lose some power in the conversion but it still often ends up being more reliable. ### Be Realistic About What Ultralight Solar Chargers Can Do Don’t get me wrong: backpacking solar chargers are awesome and have come a long way.  They’ve gotten smaller, more durable, and much more reliable. But they still aren’t perfect. You aren’t going to be able to strap a small charger to your backpacking, hike through a shady forest, and expect your devices to get fully charged. ### Don’t Forget the Weight of Extras It’s worth noting that most manufacturers only list the weight for their solar panels.  This weight does NOT include accessories like cables, 12volt-to-USB adapters, or charge controllers.  These can add a few ounces to the setup. Likewise, you’ll probably also want a powerbank to use with your solar charger – which means anywhere from 2.5oz to 10+oz more weight.  This will allow you to store power for later and many solar chargers simply perform better when used to charge power banks. ### Reduce Your Power Needs The best way to reduce your solar charger weight is to reduce your power needs. The less you use your devices, the smaller of a solar panel you can get away with.  Normally you shouldn’t get less than a 10 watt solar panel, and that’s in ideal conditions.  To get away with a low watt solar panel, you’ll need to: - **Keep your phone turned off or in flight mode (if you are using it for photos)** - **Turn down screen brightness or use an app like [f.LUX](https://justgetflux.com/) to control the screen brightness** - **Use Greenify app to turn off background apps without having to uninstall** - **Keep phone GPS off until you need it** - **If you listen to music on your phone, use earbuds instead of the speakers** - **Keep devices at “room temperature”** Sleep with them on cold nights if you must. - **Be stingy about taking photos and videos.** - **Set up camp on time so you don’t have to rely on headlamps at night.** ## Ultralight Solar Charger FAQ: #### Is it worth bringing a solar charger on a backpacking trip? For trips under 5 days, probably not, a lightweight power bank is simpler, cheaper, more reliable, and often lighter than a solar setup when you factor in the power bank you’ll still need to carry alongside the panel. Solar makes sense for thru-hiking where you want to avoid hunting for outlets in towns, trips in open sunny terrain where you can actually drape the panel on your pack all day, and longer expeditions where carrying a higher-capacity power bank would be heavier than a solar setup. #### How many watts do I need in a backpacking solar charger? At least 10 watts to reliably charge phones and small devices in real conditions. The watt ratings on solar panels are peak output in ideal direct sunlight, you’ll typically get 50–70% of rated output in practice. A 5W panel that claims to charge your phone will do so extremely slowly in perfect conditions and barely at all when it’s cloudy or you’re hiking through trees. The Lixada 10W at 3.56oz is the minimum practical option for a solo backpacker; a group sharing weight can justify going up to 20–28W. #### **Want to really cut weight from your pack? Check out my eBook!** [![dehydrator backpacking recipes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/book-with-tablet.png "book with tablet - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/book-with-tablet.png) **Want gourmet meals on the trail?** My dehydrator recipes ebook has 50+ calorie-dense backpacking recipes — just add hot water. **[Get it here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck)** --- ###### Resources for this article: <https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/10e7kot/solar_panels_for_hiking_trip/>, [https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/13y3fn7/longterm\_solar\_review\_its\_finally\_better\_than/,](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/13y3fn7/longterm_solar_review_its_finally_better_than/) <https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/blocking-diode>, <https://www.linkedin.com/advice/3/what-some-common-mistakes-challenges-when-using-blocking>, <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10733962/>, <https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=18871>, Image credit: “[2019-01-30\_05-18-22](https://www.flickr.com/photos/steevithak/46207970244/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [steevithak](https://www.flickr.com/people/steevithak/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** chargers, solar, solar chargers, ultralight --- ### [How to Get a Toddler to Sleep while Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/toddler-camping-sleep/) **Published:** February 25, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Worried about how your toddler will sleep while tent camping? I’ve been there! Here is some firsthand advice about getting toddlers to sleep well, including sleeping bags for toddlers, bedtime schedules, dealing with naptime, and other issues like not disturbing the neighbors. **Also read:** - [How to Go Tent Camping with a Toddler](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-with-toddler/) - [Toddler Camping Essentials List](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-essentials-toddlers/) ## **1. Decide Where Will Your Toddler Sleep At Night** The first thing to consider is *where* your toddler will sleep during the camping trip.   If you don’t have any other children, then this is pretty simple: your toddler will sleep in the tent with you. If you have other children though, you might want to sleep in multiple tents. For example, my older daughter has a later bedtime.  I didn’t want her to wake up my toddler when she came into the tent. Nor did I want my toddler’s nighttime waking to bother her.  So we bring two tents camping: I sleep in one with the little one.  My husband sleeps in the other tent with our older child. ## 2. Don’t Stick to Bedtime Schedules Pretty much all “experts” will tell you to keep your toddler’s normal sleep schedule when you are traveling or camping.  While this *sounds* smart in theory, it is often impossible in practice.  As one mom [said](https://www.ukcampsite.co.uk/chatter/display_topic_threads.asp?ForumID=3&TopicID=147289&ThreadPage=1), > “No self-respecting two year old is going to go to bed at their normal bedtime when they can hear the rest of the kids still playing outside. Take this as gospel from a mother of three whose kids have been camping from months old!” If you try to get your toddler to bed on time, they are likely to have tantrums. Then your toddler will be so worked up that sleeping becomes even more difficult. ### Here are some solutions for dealing with bedtime: - **Let your toddler fall asleep next to the campfire.** This is what I do with my girls. Preferably, have them snuggle in their sleeping bags while they lie next to the fire.  Then you can just pick them up – sleeping bag and all — and put them in the tent when they conk out. - **Keep bedtime loose.** If you still want to keep some sort of schedule, at least be loose about it. Let your toddler stay up a bit later and start the bedtime ritual when you see them getting cranky. - **Go to bed with your toddler.** Your toddler is less likely to fight bedtime if you all go to bed at the same time. You can always sneak out of the tent again after your toddler falls asleep. - **Get your kids excited about bedtime in the tent.** Read them stories with a flashlight or do shadow puppets. This will make bedtime more fun and help calm them down. ### Remember, The First Night Is Always the Hardest! Almost all parents have trouble getting their toddlers to sleep on the first night of camping.  By the second night, your toddler will have adjusted a bit.  Toddlers are also tired out by day 2 (especially since they will probably wake up at 6am!) so going to bed easier.  Keep this in mind so you don’t go insane trying to get your child to sleep at a “reasonable” time on the first night of your trip. ## 3. Get a Proper Sleeping Bag Even in summer, [it can get really cold when camping](https://momgoescamping.com/how-cold-is-too-cold-for-tent-camping/).  Your toddler may need a warm sleeping bag.  Unfortunately, there aren’t too many toddler sleeping bags which are actually designed for camping – especially for temperatures of less than 50F.   The [Morrison Big Mo](https://morrisonoutdoors.com?aff=3) is by far the best option.  There are two versions: one rated for 40F and another rated for 20F.  A more affordable option is the [BabyDeeDee Travel Nest](https://momgoescamping.com/deedeebag). It is good for down to 50F. **Also Read:** [**Best Toddler Sleeping Bags for Camping**](https://momgoescamping.com/best-toddler-sleeping-bags-camping/). [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/toddler-sleeping-bag.jpg "toddler sleeping bag - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/toddler-sleeping-bag.jpg)*My 1 year old in her [BabyDeeDee sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/deedeebag)*  ## 4. Pad or Bed? My kids usually sleep on camping pads.  However, toddlers have a tendency to roll off of them. When this happens, they end up on the cold ground. You can have your toddler sleep between you and your partner, or put some bumpers” next to them, to keep them on their pad.  Alternative, consider a portable bed. It keeps your child in place, and also prevents you from getting kicked in the face. **Read:** - **[Best sleeping pads for little kids](https://momgoescamping.com/baby-sleeping-pads-camping/)** - **[Best portable camping beds for toddlers](https://momgoescamping.com/toddler-camping-beds/)** [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/rolling-off-sleeping-mat-2.jpg "rolling off sleeping mat 2 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/rolling-off-sleeping-mat-2.jpg)*Your toddler WILL roll off the sleeping mat if you dont put up a barricade* ## 5.Keep Your Tent Out of the Sunlight. One very annoying thing about camping with a toddler is that they will inevitably wake up at 6am (or earlier!) when the first rays of morning sunshine hit the tent.  This happens even if your over-excited toddler didn’t fall asleep until 10pm.  Then you are left with the task of trying to keep your toddler from waking up everyone else at the campground at this ungodly hour. To ensure your toddler sleeps at least a bit longer, try to get a shady campsite. If there is only one tree, for example, position the tent so it gets shade during the morning.  Unfortunately, that does mean your tent will be in the sun by the afternoon and thus too hot and sunny for napping in the tent. If you are really ambitious, you could even hang a tarp over your tent so it is shaded at all hours.                                          **Heading out soon with your toddler?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup — print them before you go. **[                                                          Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** ## 6. Plan for Accidents If your toddler is out of diapers, be warned that nighttime accidents are more likely to happen when camping (speaking from experience here).  My theory is that the accidents occur because toddlers get too tired out.  Colder weather also makes it harder to hold it at night. Consider getting some padded underwear or pull-up diapers for your toddler to wear while sleeping.  Or, at the very least, put a leak-catching pad inside the sleeping bag.  Your toddler’s pajamas will still be all wet but at least the sleeping bag won’t be drenched. **Tip:** If your toddler wets the sleeping bag, an adult puffy jacket works as a backup sleeping bag. ## **7. Have a Naptime Plan** Naptime is tricky when camping.  You probably don’t want to stop activities in the middle of the day so your toddler can get a nap.  Even you do try to get your toddler to nap, you probably won’t be successful. Your toddler will be too excited, there’s no way to turn out the lights, and it might not be quiet at camp.  However, if your toddler doesn’t get some sort of nap, she can get really cranky by the end of the day – meaning you *and* your toddler both end up miserable. **Here are some solutions for naptime when camping:** - **Put your toddler to nap *before* she gets too tired:** By the third day of camping, the excitement has worn off and my toddler will usually nap at her normal time. However, it’s important that we don’t delay naptime too much or she gets overtired and throws a mini tantrum. - **Nap with your toddler:** I lay down next to my toddler in the tent and pretend I am sleeping. Sometimes she gets so bored that she falls asleep too.  If not, at least we both got a little break. - **Let your toddler nap in the stroller:** We often plan a stroller-friendly hike around naptime. Our toddler almost inevitably would fall asleep in the stroller, especially if she woke up earlier than normal. - **Napping in a carrier:** If you use a carrier instead of a stroller, choose one which has a built-in pillow. Otherwise your toddler’s head will bounce around when she falls asleep on a hike. Here are some [great child carriers](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-child-carrier-petite-women/). - **Plan drives for naptime:** If you have to drive to activities, plan it so the drive back is at naptime. Your toddler will probably fall asleep in their carseat. - **Do restful activities instead of napping:** Around naptime, have your toddler stop running around. Instead, do a restful activity like reading a book or coloring. It’s not a nap, but at least they get a break so are less likely to be cranky monsters later in the day. - **Bring a bug net:** If you want your toddler to nap outside while camping during mosquito season, bring a bug net to put over the stroller or playpen. I use binder clips to keep it attached to the stroller. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/sleeping-in-stroller.jpg "sleeping in stroller - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/sleeping-in-stroller.jpg)*My daughter sleeping in her stroller in full rain gear* ## 8. Respect Other Campers As much as *you* love your toddler, other campers probably won’t.  Especially when your toddler is having a tantrum or waking up in the middle of the night screaming. There’s not much you can do about this. Even the best-behaved toddlers can have bad days. And remember that it can be scary for your toddler to wake up in a dark tent. However, there are things you can do to minimize the annoyance you cause other campers, such as: - **Ask for a secluded campsite.** Make sure you call the campground to explain you’ve got a little kid.  They might even put you next to another family. - **Choose a campground that is family-friendly.** Other parents will sympathize with you when they hear your toddler crying. - **Go wild camping instead.** Because there won’t be any other campers, your toddler can be as loud as he wants without bothering anyone. - **Consider getting a bigger tent**. If your toddler wakes up, then you can walk around the tent with her in your arms until she falls back asleep. It’s not ideal but at least your camping neighbors won’t hate you. - **Get a lantern with a red-light setting.** The red light setting allows you to see well enough to attend to your toddler’s needs without blinding her (and thus waking her even further). [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/toddler-sleeping-with-camping-neighbors-kid.jpg "toddler sleeping with camping neighbors kid - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/toddler-sleeping-with-camping-neighbors-kid.jpg)*My toddler taking a nap with the kid from the next campsite over Other parents are less likely to mind if your toddler cries a bit because theyve been there* ## 9. Invest in Good Pajamas Unless you are going into frigid weather, you don’t need any fancy PJs for your toddler while camping. However, it is important that your toddler’s sleepware is made from a breathable material.  Otherwise your toddler can end up sweaty.  Sweating causes evaporative heat loss, so your toddler can end up cold even in mild weather. For this reason, cotton pajamas usually aren’t recommended.  Merino wool is a much better choice. If you are going to use cotton, then make sure you don’t overbundle your child (more on that below). Also bring some backup pajamas in case the cotton gets wet. \*Don’t forget to bring a dedicated pair of socks just for sleeping in.  The daytime socks will get gross.  You don’t want these in the sleeping bag. **See my picks for** [**best kids camping pajamas**](https://momgoescamping.com/best-camping-pajamas-for-kids/) **here.** ## 10. Don’t Over-Bundle Your Toddler At Night One of the big mistakes that parents make when camping with little kids is over-bundling them at night.  If you put too many layers on your child, they will get really hot.  This in turn will make them sweaty and uncomfortable, so they end up waking up multiple times during the night (again, speaking from experience). **To make sure your toddler is a comfortable temperature when sleeping:** - **Touch your toddler’s neck:** It’s normal for hands to feel cold. To check whether your toddler is cold while sleeping, touch her neck instead. - **Invest in good pajamas:** Merino wool pajamas are breathable and keep your toddler from sweating. They can double as long-johns in winter. - **Keep the sleeping bag unzipped at first:** It probably won’t be too cold when your toddler goes to bed around 8 or 9pm. By the time you go to bed though, the temperature could have dropped significantly.  I will keep my toddler’s sleeping bag unzipped when she falls asleep and then fully zip it up once I crawl into the tent. - **Have an extra blanket nearby:** If your toddler feels cold, put the blanket over her. A puffy jacket also works well. ## 11. Make Sure You Get Some Rest Too So long as your toddler is entertained, they should remain happy ([here are some activity ideas](https://momgoescamping.com/activities-entertain-kids-camping/)).  But it’s a lot of work to constantly entertain an energetic toddler while camping.  Make sure you stay rested so you have the energy (mentally and physically) to deal with your toddler. **To stay rested:** - **Go to bed early on day #1.** This is important because your toddler will probably wake up VERY early the next morning. - **Don’t plan any activities for the first day.** At least don’t plan any activities which are strenuous or far away from the campground. - **Rest when your toddler is napping.** Even if this means stopping for a long break in the middle of your hike. Otherwise your toddler is likely to wake up the moment you finish the hike, meaning you get zero downtime. Here are some [tips for hiking with a toddler](https://momgoescamping.com/tips-hiking-two-year-old/). - **Choose easy meals.** Don’t bother with campfire cooking or meals which require multiple pots. It will just stress you out. Here are some [toddler-friendly camping meal ideas](https://momgoescamping.com/easy-camping-meals/). ## Toddler Camping Sleep FAQ: #### What time should a toddler go to bed when camping? Later than at home, and that’s okay. Trying to enforce a normal bedtime when there’s campfire light, other kids playing, and general excitement is a battle you won’t win and will make the evening miserable for everyone. A better approach is watching for sleepy cues (rubbing eyes, getting clingy, crankiness) and starting the bedtime routine then, regardless of the clock. Most toddlers will go down 30–60 minutes later than usual on the first night, and closer to normal by night two once the novelty has worn off. #### How do I keep my toddler warm enough in a tent at night? The most common mistake is over-bundling, too many layers cause sweating, which then causes the child to get cold from evaporative heat loss. Instead: use a wearable sleeping bag rated for the temperature (the Morrison Big Mo is the best option for cold camping), dress in a single merino wool base layer underneath, and check warmth by touching the back of the neck rather than the hands (hands are always cooler). If they feel cold at 3am, add a hat first — toddlers lose a lot of heat through their heads. **How do you get your toddler to sleep when tent camping? Let us know in the comments section below.** --- Image credits: “[IMG\_5013](https://www.flickr.com/photos/abbybatchelder/3692120883/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [abbybatchelder](https://www.flickr.com/people/abbybatchelder/), Title image from [Morrison Sleeping Bags](https://morrisonoutdoors.com?aff=3) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** toddler --- ### [Beyond S’mores: 26 Easy Campfire Dessert Ideas](https://momgoescamping.com/campfire-desserts/) **Published:** March 31, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Want to make some really gourmet desserts over the campfire? All of these camping desserts are incredibly easy, delicious and are fun to make by roasting over the fire. They also don’t require any special equipment (no cast iron cookware or Dutch oven needed!).                                                **Want gourmet meals on the trail?** My dehydrator recipes ebook has 50+ calorie-dense backpacking recipes — just add hot water. **[                                                                     Get it here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck)** The only thing you need is a good roasting stick (like one of [these](https://momgoescamping.com/best-marshmallow-sticks/)) and maybe some tinfoil.  I’ve divided the desserts into s’mores variations, desserts which get roasted over the fire on sticks and tinfoil camping desserts. Enjoy!  And if you need more food ideas, check out these [incredibly easy, mostly healthy camping meal ideas](https://momgoescamping.com/easy-camping-meals/). ## S’mores Variations and Other Roasted Marshmallow Desserts **1. Reese’s Cups:** instead of chocolate in s’mores. [![reese peanut butter cup smore](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/reese-peanut-butter-cup-smore.jpg "reese peanut butter cup smore - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/reese-peanut-butter-cup-smore.jpg) **2. Cookies:** instead of graham crackers **3. Add peanut butter:** With or without chocolate. **4. Roasted peeps:** The sugar gets nice and crusty, though the flaming peeps do look a bit morbid! [![campfire roasted peeps](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/campfire-roasted-peeps.jpg "campfire roasted peeps - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/campfire-roasted-peeps.jpg) **5. Pop tart:** use a brown sugar and cinnamon pop tart instead of graham cracker for the s’more. **6. Nutella:** Instead of chocolate. **7. Dunk the marshmallow in Baileys.** Then roast. **8. Stuffed marshmallows:** Try putting a Hershey kiss, Rolo (or other chocolate-covered caramel candy). Roast and enjoy. **9. Marshmallow “cups”:** Let the marshmallow roast until it is crispy on the outside. Carefully pull it off the stick so the crispy part separates from the soft inner. You will have a cup which you can fill with goodies like candy or fruit. [![campfire marshmallow cups](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/campfire-marshmallow-cups.jpg "campfire marshmallow cups - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/campfire-marshmallow-cups.jpg) **10. Strawberries and fluff:** Put a strawberry on your roasting stick and cover it in marshmallow fluff. Roast until golden. If you don’t have fluff, you can slit a marshmallow almost in half and put it on the roasting stick so it sits over the strawberry. ## Campfire Desserts You Can Roast on Sticks **11. Cinnamon buns:** Take any frozen or canned cinnamon buns. Put the uncooked dough on your stick and then roast. It’s incredibly easy and delicious. Some people roll the dough over the stick to get a cinnamon bun rollup. [![campfire cinnamon buns](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/campfire-cinnamon-buns.jpg "campfire cinnamon buns - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/campfire-cinnamon-buns.jpg) **12. Roasted starbursts:** Put a starburst can onto your stick and roast until the outside gets bubbly. You can even put multiple colors on a stick at once. Just make sure you let it cool enough before eating. **13. Donuts:** Just stab a donut through a stick (carefully so it won’t fall off!) and roast. [![campfire roasted donuts](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/campfire-roasted-donuts.jpg "campfire roasted donuts - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/campfire-roasted-donuts.jpg) **14. Pineapple**: Roll chunks of pineapple in brown sugar and cinnamon. Then roast like a marshmallow. **15. Apple:** Peel an apple, stab a roasting stick into the center, and roll the apple in sugar and cinnamon. Let it roast until very soft on the outside. **16. Fig newtons:** Skewer these and cook over the fire. They taste delicious when all toasted outside and gooey inside. [![campfire fig newtons](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/campfire-fig-newtons.jpg "campfire fig newtons - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/campfire-fig-newtons.jpg) **17. Figs:** For bonus points, shove a little piece of goat cheese inside before stabbing it into your roasting stick! **18. Wahdingers:** Take a canned biscuit, put it over a roasting stick with a wooden dowel on the end (or wrap tinfoil around the end of your roasting stick). When the biscuit is cooked, remove it from the stick and fill the hole with berries, cream, chocolate, marshmallows, or whatever you want. These are also delicious filled with savory ingredients like cheese. [![campfire Wahdingers](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/campfire-Wahdingers.jpg "campfire Wahdingers - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/campfire-Wahdingers.jpg) **19. Campfire Eclairs:** This is similar to the whadinger above. First, wrap the end of your roasted stick with tinfoil. Get some crescent roll dough and wrap it around the tinfoil. Make sure the dough is closed at the end.  Roast the dough over the fire until it is golden.  Carefully remove from the tinfoil and fill with pre-made pudding or nutella. **20. Hot dog roll cinnamon buns:** Instead of canned or frozen cinnamon buns, you can use stale hot dog rolls. Break them in half, put on your stick, slather with butter and then roll in cinnamon sugar before roasting. ## Tinfoil Campfire Desserts **21. Banana boats:** Leaving the peel on, slit a banana lengthwise. Spread apart the halves and shove sweets inside (chocolate chips, peanut butter, little marshmallows, cookie pieces…). Wrap the entire banana in tinfoil and then roast over the fire. Eat with a spoon. [![banana boats on campfire](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/banana-boats-on-campfire.jpg "banana boats on campfire - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/banana-boats-on-campfire.jpg) **22. Orange cakes or brownies:** Cut the top off of an orange and scoop out the innards. Fill the empty orange shells with premade brownie or cake mix. Only fill to ¾ full as the cake will expand. Wrap the oranges in tinfoil and cook over the campfire.  You can also skip the tinfoil and just set the oranges next to the fire. [![orange campfire cakes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/orange-campfire-cakes.jpg "orange campfire cakes - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/orange-campfire-cakes.jpg) **23. Campfire Cones:** Fill ice cream cones with layers of marshmallows, chocolate, candies, nuts, fruit, etc. Wrap in tinfoil and then heat on the fire. Eat with a spoon. **24. Stuffed Peaches:** Slice peaches in half, remove the pit and fill them with blueberries and gobs of cream cheese (or goat cheese). You can roast them on top of a grill rack or wrap them in foil and set next to the fire. [![campfire peaches stuffed with cream cheese](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/campfire-peaches-stuffed-with-cream-cheese.jpg "campfire peaches stuffed with cream cheese - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/campfire-peaches-stuffed-with-cream-cheese.jpg) **25. Baked stuffed apples:** Remove the core from an apple and fill the space with brown sugar, cinnamon, nuts, raisins, peanut butter (or whatever you like). Wrap it in tinfoil and roast over coals. ![campfire stuffed apples](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/campfire-stuffed-apples.jpg "campfire stuffed apples - Mom Goes Camping") **26. Cobbler or crisp:** Put all the ingredients for your favorite crisp or cobbler (I like plum and apple with cinnamon and brown sugar) into small tinfoil pouches. Make sure they are sealed up well and put them over the fire or on embers. Let them bake for about 20 minutes.  Carefully open and enjoy. You can also make cobbler or crisp in a Dutch oven or other fire-safe cookware.  Just make sure that you put a nice layer of fruit at the bottom and keep it off direct flames.  Otherwise it will burn! ![campfire cobbler](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/campfire-cobbler.jpg "campfire cobbler - Mom Goes Camping") ## Campfire Desserts FAQ: #### What is the easiest campfire dessert to make with kids? Banana boats are the easiest campfire dessert for kids slit a banana lengthwise without removing the peel, stuff it with chocolate chips and mini marshmallows, wrap in foil, and set on the coals for 5–8 minutes. No sticks, no dripping, no mess, and kids can assemble their own. The peel acts as a natural bowl. Campfire cones are a close second fill a waffle cone with marshmallows, chocolate chips, and fruit, wrap in foil, and heat for 3–5 minutes. #### Do campfire desserts need special equipment? Most don’t the majority of campfire desserts on this list need nothing but aluminum foil and a campfire with coals. A few (banana boats, orange cakes, stuffed apples) need foil and something to set them on near the coals. For stick desserts like campfire eclairs and cinnamon rolls you need a good roasting stick with a flat end, not a pointed one. A grill rack over the fire makes foil packet desserts easier but isn’t required. No Dutch oven or cast iron needed for any of these. **What’s your favorite camping dessert? Let us know in the comments section below.** --- Some ideas came from: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Cooking/comments/bazfa1/what\_are\_your\_campfire\_favourites/,](https://www.reddit.com/r/Cooking/comments/bazfa1/what_are_your_campfire_favourites/) <https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/65sl3e/what_are_some_alternative_campfire_deserts_to/>, <https://www.reddit.com/r/CampfireCooking/comments/7pl3zw/is_there_any_quick_alternative_to_smores/> Image credits: “[\#vegan #smores](https://www.flickr.com/photos/8751723@N02/19316991616/)” ([CC BY-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/2.0/)) by [voyagevixen2](https://www.flickr.com/people/8751723@N02/), “[Peep on an Open Flame #3](https://www.flickr.com/photos/jordansmall/470942122/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [jordansmall](https://www.flickr.com/people/jordansmall/), “[dessert in reverse 5](https://www.flickr.com/photos/72427965@N00/3731575966/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [concrete\_jungler101](https://www.flickr.com/people/72427965@N00/), “[dessert in reverse 4](https://www.flickr.com/photos/72427965@N00/3730778339/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [concrete\_jungler101](https://www.flickr.com/people/72427965@N00/), “[dessert in reverse 6](https://www.flickr.com/photos/72427965@N00/3731577248/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [concrete\_jungler101](https://www.flickr.com/people/72427965@N00/), “[Fort Flagler camping](https://www.flickr.com/photos/heyskinny/7618568638/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [hey skinny](https://www.flickr.com/people/heyskinny/), “Cooking donuts and corndogs” https://www.flickr.com/photos/kowitz/270965458/ ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by kowitz, “[Cooking gone Wild](https://www.flickr.com/photos/itsaboyd/6722215391/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [ian boyd](https://www.flickr.com/people/itsaboyd/), “[Wahdingers!](https://www.flickr.com/photos/trillian421979/4043937042/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Jessa-Minnie](https://www.flickr.com/people/trillian421979/), “[AK’s banana boat ”smore alternative”](https://www.flickr.com/photos/esagor/29207191382/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [esagor](https://www.flickr.com/people/esagor/), “[Best camping treat](https://www.flickr.com/photos/dlifson/3931505101/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Dave Lifson](https://www.flickr.com/people/dlifson/), “[Campfire Cooking 101](https://www.flickr.com/photos/vastateparksstaff/14446164225/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [vastateparksstaff](https://www.flickr.com/people/vastateparksstaff/), “[campfire dessert \| the both and \| shorts](https://www.flickr.com/photos/48424574@N07/4842914336/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [shorts and longs](https://www.flickr.com/people/48424574@N07/), “[Campfire Baked Apples](https://www.flickr.com/photos/healthiermi/35527442203/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [healthiermi](https://www.flickr.com/people/healthiermi/), “[Peach Cobbler over Fire](https://www.flickr.com/photos/rbh/9580649748/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [RichardBH](https://www.flickr.com/people/rbh/), [www.personalcreations.com](http://www.personalcreations.com/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Food **Tags:** desserts --- ### [Best Sleeping Bags for Short Women and Teen Girls (Comparison Table)](https://momgoescamping.com/sleeping-bags-short-women-teen-girls/) **Published:** November 18, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** At 5’1”, I’m a pretty short woman.  This means that most adult sleeping bags – even the ones made for women, are too large for me.  Luckily, there are a few brands which now make sleeping bags for short women.  There are also some kids sleeping bags which will work for petite women too.  Here are the best options. ### How to Pick the Right Sleeping Bag If You’re Short The main problem with standard sleeping bags for short women and teen girls is dead air space — all that extra room at the foot of the bag takes your body heat all night to warm up, which means you sleep colder than the temperature rating suggests. A bag that fits your actual length solves this immediately. **The sizing breakdown:** - **Under 5’0″** — a kids bag (sized to 60″) is often the best fit. The Big Agnes Wolverine fits to 5’0″ exactly and is warmer and lighter than most adult bags at the same price. - **5’0″–5’5″** — look for bags labeled “petite” or “short.” The Big Agnes Sidewinder SL Petite (fits to 5’5″) is the best dedicated short women’s bag currently available. - **5’5″–5’8″** — a standard women’s bag fits well. Most are cut to 5’8″ with a narrower hip and shoulder width than a unisex bag. I’m 5’1″ and spent years sleeping cold in standard women’s bags before switching to a petite-specific bag. The difference in warmth from eliminating that foot-box dead space was immediate, I went from adding a hat and extra socks every night to sleeping comfortably at the bag’s rated temperature. If you’re short and you’ve been sleeping cold in your bag, this is almost certainly why. ## Comparison Table \[table id=73 /\] ## Size Matters! Using a too-large sleeping bag is bad for a couple reasons.  First off, a sleeping bag which is too big for you won’t be as warm because of all the empty space in it. You’d need to buy a sleeping bag rated for colder temps – such as a 20F bag instead of a 30F.  Guess what?  Warmer bags are more expensive! Secondly, if the bag is too big, it means you are packing more than you need to.   I mostly go wild camping and backpacking, so every gram matters! By switching to a short sleeping bag which actually fits me, I can cut weight from my pack.                                                      **Heading out soon?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup — print them before you go. **[                                                           Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** ## Can Short Women Use a Kids Sleeping Bag If you are really short, then using a kids sleeping bag is one option.   Just note that: - **Kids bags are narrower:** If you are a curvier or plus-sized short woman, than this won’t be a good option. - **Sizes often run small:** Just because the sleeping bag says that it fits up to 5 feet, it doesn’t always mean it will. If you are near the size limit, it’s probably better to get a slightly larger bag. - **Only the lower**–**limit rating is given:** With good adult sleeping bags, you’ll get the *lower limit* and the *comfort*    With kids bags, they usually only tell you the lower limit.   The comfort rating is usually 10-15F higher than this, but it’s still guesswork. ## Short Women’s Sleeping Bag FAQ: #### What length sleeping bag do I need if I’m 5’2″ or shorter? Look for bags labeled “petite,” “short,” or “kids” that fit up to 60–65 inches (5’0″–5’5″). Standard women’s bags typically fit up to 5’6″ or 5’8″ on a short woman these leave 4–6 inches of empty space at the foot, which reduces warmth and adds unnecessary weight. The Big Agnes Sidewinder SL Petite fits up to 5’5″ and is the best dedicated short women’s bag currently available. For women under 5’0″, a kids bag like the Big Agnes Wolverine (fits to 5’0″) is often the best fit. #### Are kids sleeping bags warm enough for adult women? Yes, with one caveat: kids bags only list the lower limit temperature rating, not the comfort rating. The comfort rating is typically 10–15°F warmer than the lower limit, so a kids bag rated to 20°F will actually be comfortable to most adult women at around 30–35°F. Account for this when choosing a temperature rating. For three-season camping in most climates, a kids bag rated to 20°F is appropriate for adult women who sleep warm, while a 15°F bag is safer for those who sleep cold. ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [Hiking Carriers for Bigger Kids? 7 Best Options for Kids 3 Years Old and Up](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-carriers-bigger-kids/) **Published:** October 1, 2024 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Hiking with preschool-aged kids and bigger kids can be a challenge.  On one hand, they should be able to hike alongside you.  But kids also suddenly get tired, cranky and refuse to hike another step (bribing with gummy bears only works to a point!). And let’s not forget about hiking with kids with disabilities or special needs. Luckily, there are some hiking carriers for bigger kids. These include framed carriers, soft carriers, hiking strollers, wagons, piggyback carriers and some newer options. Admittedly, none of these hiking carriers is perfect.  They all have major downsides and limitations.  And, even in the best child carrier, lugging a 40lbs kid is still going to be a challenge!  But these solutions are probably better than trying to carry a kid in your arms while hiking.  I’ll go over the options here and their pros/cons so you can figure out which one makes most sense for your family. **Also read: [How far can kids hike?](https://momgoescamping.com/how-far-can-kids-hike/)** ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/carrying-child-hiking.jpg "carrying child hiking - Mom Goes Camping")*Carrying my 40lb kid in my arms on a recent short hike NOT fun or safe* ## 1. Framed Backpack Carriers [![child carrier for big kid](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/heavy-hiking.jpg "heavy hiking - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/heavy-hiking.jpg) Most framed backpack child carriers have weight limits of 45-50lbs, which means they are suitable for carrying kids of up to 5 or 6 years old.  The Deuter Kid Comfort is by far the most popular (available at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3SjCCgk) and [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Ddeuter%2Bkid%2Bcomfort%26pagesize%3D90)).  It even comes in sizes for petite women. ### Pros: - **Load distribution:** When it comes to load distribution, these hiking carriers are by far the best option.  The frame and hip belt help distribute the weight, saving your back and shoulders. - **Comfort for carrier:** In addition to distributing load, framed child carriers usually have padded straps and sternum straps to stop wobbling.  This makes them very comfortable to wear, even for long hikes. - **Storage and features:** Good framed child carriers have pockets for storing gear.  Some have other cool features like mirrors so you can check on your child, sun canopies and more. ### Cons: - **Getting it on is a pain:** Even when my kid was only 30lbs, I found it very difficult to get the framed carrier onto my back. Your kid has to climb into it and then you use all your upper body strength to swing it onto your back.  It’s easier if you have a partner to help you lift it onto your back.  This isn’t too annoying if your kid stays in the carrier for the entire hike.  But it’s *really* annoying if you’ve got a kid who wants to get in/out every 10 minutes! - **They are bulky and heavy:**Framed child carriers are heavy – usually around 6-7lbs.  And they are very large and bulky.  If you are only bringing it as a backup just in case your kid needs a break, it’s annoying to carry around for the entire hike. - **Big kids might not fit:** Just because your kid is within the weight limit, it doesn’t mean your kid will fit in the carrier.  When my daughter was 3, she barely fit in our framed carrier during colder months when she had her puffy jacket on.   The tight fit can make the carrier uncomfortable for big kids. - **The good ones are EXPENSIVE:** There are cheap framed hiking carriers, but they usually aren’t as comfortable and do a poor job distributing load.  Expect to shell out a couple hundred for a decent framed carrier. --- ## 2. Trail Magik Carrier [![The TrailMagik ultralight hiking carrier](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/trailmagik-ultralight-backpacking-child-carrier.jpg "trailmagik ultralight backpacking child carrier - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/trail-magik) This is a brand new type of hiking carrier specifically designed for bigger kids (ages 2 to 4).  It attaches to your backpack with clips and carabiners.  It’s insanely cool and suitable for kids from 1 year old to 43lbs. **You can [get it here](https://momgoescamping.com/trail-magik) – Use discount code MOMGOES for 10% off.** Or read [my full review of the Trail Magik carrier](https://momgoescamping.com/trail-magik-carrier-review/). ### Pros: - **Insanely lightweight and small:** Because the Trail Magik carrier attaches to your backpack, it doesn’t need to have its own shoulder straps or hip belt.  This makes it the lightest and smallest child carrier for toddlers and little kids available.  It weighs only 9.8oz and folds down smaller than a water bottle! - **Suitable for multi-day backpacking trips:** If you want to do some serious backpacking with a little kid, this is probably the best option.  You will be able to carry your kid along with whatever gear you have on your back. - **Easy to get your kid in/out:** Compared to all the other options (aside from wagons), this is the easiest carrier to get your child in and out of.  That makes it great for hiking with little kids who need lots of short breaks. ### Cons: - **Front carry only:** If your kid is tall, they might block your view. - **Not very comfy for the carrier:** Hiking with 40lbs on your front isn’t exactly comfortable.  And you’ve got to be a superhero to carry a heavy kid on your front *and* a heavy pack on your back! --- ## 3. Hiking Strollers ![bob revolution flex 3.0 stroller](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/bob-revolution-flex-3.0-stroller.jpg "bob revolution flex 3.0 stroller - Mom Goes Camping") Unlike normal strollers or even joggers, hiking strollers have large wheels and suspension systems.  These features allow them to go off-road, even on some tough terrain, without jostling your kid or causing wrist strain.  The BOB Revolution Flex 3.0 is one of the best (available at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/401MkqX)). Also read: [Best Hiking Strollers Compared](https://momgoescamping.com/all-terrain-strollers-hiking/) ### Pros: - **Save your back:** Don’t like the idea of carrying your heavy kid on your back hiking? Some hiking strollers can carry kids up to 70lbs! - **Can put other gear in there too:** While you are at it, put lots of gear in the stroller’s storage basket.  You’ll be able to bring along lots of stuff without having to carry any of it on your back. - **Kids can nap in there:** While kids can theoretically nap in framed carriers, it isn’t very comfortable.  Hiking strollers are best for nap time during hikes. - **Rain and sun protection:** Good hiking strollers have UV protection and water-resistant canopies (some are completely waterproof). ### Cons: - **Not for really tough terrain:** While hiking strollers can go off-road and on dirt paths, you’ve got to be realistic about where they can go.  They are terrible on narrow paths or anywhere very rocky. - **Expensive:** A good hiking stroller can cost well over $500.  This might make sense if you buy it when your kid is a baby or are having another kid, but not if your child is already older. - **Take up tons of space:** Even with the wheels off, hiking strollers are massive.  They might not fit in your car trunk! - **Height limits:** Pay attention to the height limits on hiking strollers.  Even if your kid is within the *weight* limit, they might be too tall for the stroller. **\*Random tip:** I sometimes used a stroller *and* a carrier for hiking. When the terrain got too tough for the stroller, I’d lock it to a tree and switch my kid to a carrier. --- ## 4. Folding Hiking Wagons ![hiking wagon](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/hiking-wagon.jpg "hiking wagon - Mom Goes Camping") I tested this out on a backpacking trip with kid when she was 4 years old.  There was about 5 miles of walking on a smooth path to get to our camping spot. My daughter loved getting a ride in the wagon.  I was also able to load tons of other stuff into it, like a massive water jug. Some hiking wagons have weight limits of over 150lbs!  You can see I strapped loads of other gear to the sides (but still ended up carrying tons on my back, ha! :)) ### Pros: - **Solution for very big kids or two kids:** Because of the high weight limit, you can use a hiking wagon for big kids (such as kids with special needs).  There aren’t any height limits to worry about in a wagon either. - **Carry other gear too:** Go ahead and load lots of gear in the wagon. I even strapped bulky items like sleeping pads and a tent to the outside of the wagon frame. Since your kid is in the wagon, it also means you can wear whatever backpack you want. - **Easy on your back:** This is definitely better than carrying a kid when hiking!  Some even give you the option for pulling or pushing. - **Kids can get in/out easily:** You don’t have to stop and do any weird manuevering if your kid feels like walking. ### Cons: - **Only suitable for smooth terrain:** The ride gets bumpy the moment you get on unpaved roads or paths.  This will really limit where you can use a hiking wagon. - **Most are really expensive:** Expect to pay at least $150 for a good hiking wagon. The [Veer wagon](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F159122%2Fveer-cruiser-stroller-wagon) (which is badass) costs nearly $700! If you don’t have other uses for it (like for gardening or shopping), then it might not be worth the investment. **Also read: [Best Hiking Wagons](https://momgoescamping.com/best-camping-wagons/)** --- ## 5. Wrap Carriers ![wrap carrier](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/wrap-carrier.jpg "wrap carrier - Mom Goes Camping") Wrap child hiking carriers work by wrapping a bunch of fabric around your child and yourself.  Some have very high weight limits and come in sizes suitable for all ages of children.  A lot of indigenous people carry their kids in wraps and there are lots of ways to make them. ### Pros: - **Packable:** Because they are smallish and lightweight, they are easy to shove in a backpack and take out “just in case” your kid needs a break. - **Front or back carry:** Which means you can wear a backpack and carry your kid at the same time.  Or even carry two kids at once. - **Versatile:** Wraps also double as a picnic blanket, scarf, towel, pillow, improvised bandage for injuries… ### Cons: - **Poor load distribution:** Compared to framed carriers, wrap carriers aren’t going to distribute weight well.  Even if you use some fancy wrap that goes around your waist, most of the load will still end up on your shoulders and back. - **Somewhat annoying to put on:** I personally don’t mind the wrapping.  However, because most consist of very long pieces of fabric, it’s almost impossible to put them on without getting the fabric on the ground – a major problem if the ground is muddy or wet! --- ## 6. Piggyback Carriers ![Piggyback Rider Toddler Carrier Backpack - SCOUT Standing Child Carrier Backpack for Events & Travel - Complete Parent & Child Set with Secure Safety Harness for Ages 2-4, Holds Up to 50lbs](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/31UVP6u+JxL._SL500_.jpg) Piggyback carriers are basically a harness which has a bar on it.  Your child stands on the bar to get a ride.  I personally haven’t tried these but **most hikers do *not* like them.** ### Pros: - **Fairly light and compact:** Compared to other hiking carriers for big kids, piggyback carriers are pretty small and light.  You won’t mind wearing it until your kid needs a break.  Or keep it in a backpack until then. - **Mostly easy for kid to get on/off:** If your kid is old enough to attach the safety harness by themselves, then they can hop on and off very easily.  If not, then it’s really tricky to attach the harness.  You will probably need another adult to do it for you. ### Cons: - **Not comfortable for the wearer:** Even with the hip belt (sold separately with some models), piggyback carriers aren’t very comfortable.  They don’t distribute load well so most of the weight ends up on your shoulders and back. - **Your kid has to stand up:** That means your kid isn’t going to get a proper rest and definitely can’t nap in the carrier. - **Can’t use while carrying a backpack:** I guess you could wear a small pack on your front, but this would be annoying with all the straps.  So, basically, you can only use this carrier if you are going with another adult who can carry all your necessarily hiking gear. - **Your kid ends up high above you:** Which means your kid may hit their head on tree branches! --- ## 7. Soft Structured Carriers [![Toddler tula carrier for hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/toddler-tulas.jpg "toddler tulas - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/toddler-tulas.jpg) Soft structured carriers are great for hiking with *babies*.  However, **I generally don’t recommend them for hiking with bigger kids.**   There are some exceptions though.  The brands [Lillebaby](https://amzn.to/3QgKxcC), [Beco](https://amzn.to/3ON99sh) and [Tula](https://amzn.to/3vAZIoV) make some comfy carriers for big kids (weight limit up 45-60lbs), but even these aren’t nearly as comfortable as a framed carrier. ### Pros: - **Lots of affordable options:** While the better soft carriers are expensive, you can easily find a cheap one or find a used one. ### Cons: - **Not packable:** Soft structured carriers have hip belts, padded shoulder straps and a seating area, so they are VERY big and bulky.  They will take up a lot of space in your backpack. - **Can’t wear a backpack with one:** Theoretically, you could front carry your kid and wear a backpack – but you’d end up with a zillion straps on you.  It’s *really* uncomfortable.  I’d rather have the Trail Magik carrier for front carrying. - **Uncomfortable:** Structured soft carriers aren’t comfortable for the carrier or the rider.  They don’t distribute load well.  And the fabric tends to kid into big kids’ legs. - **Annoying to get your child in:** It can take some serious maneuvering to get your kid into one of these carriers.  It’s incredibly annoying if your child wants to get in/out of the carrier every 10 minutes on the hike. ## Hiking Carriers for Big Kids FAQ: #### What is the best hiking carrier for a 4-year-old? For most families, a framed backpack carrier like the Deuter Kid Comfort is the best option for a 4-year-old it distributes the weight through a frame and hip belt, which makes carrying a 30–40lb child manageable over longer distances. If you’re backpacking and need to carry your own gear too, the Trail Magik is worth considering, it attaches to your existing backpack and weighs under 10oz, making it the most practical option for multi-day trips. For smooth terrain, a hiking wagon lets you carry much more without any back strain at all. #### At what age can kids stop needing a hiking carrier? Most kids can hike independently for reasonable distances by age 5–6, but “reasonable” depends on the child and the terrain. A fit 5-year-old can manage 2–3 miles on a flat trail; a steep rocky trail might exhaust them in half a mile. Even kids who are fully capable hikers benefit from having a backup carrier option on longer trips, carrying a lightweight piggyback carrier or wrap “just in case” is usually worth the minimal weight. The need for a carrier tends to disappear entirely around age 7–8 for most kids.                                                                **Heading out soon?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup — print them before you go. **[                                                                Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** **What hiking carrier do you use for your big kid? Let us know in the comments section below.** --- ###### Image credits: “[Taman Negara](https://www.flickr.com/photos/phalinn/30509993973/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Phalinn Ooi](https://www.flickr.com/people/phalinn/), “[05.29.10 149/365](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nineminutes/4650834119/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [nineminutes](https://www.flickr.com/people/nineminutes/), “[A Woman and Child in a Baby Carrier in G](https://www.flickr.com/photos/minneapolisinstituteofarts/4077908395/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [Minneapolis Institute of Art](https://www.flickr.com/people/minneapolisinstituteofarts/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking --- ### [How to Deal with Feral Dog Attacks while Traveling or Backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/feral-dog-attacks/) **Published:** January 4, 2019 **Author:** Diane **Content:** People always ask me if I’m scared of [encountering a bear](https://momgoescamping.com/bear-safety/) or [snake](https://momgoescamping.com/snake-bite-first-aid/) while backpacking.  Nope.  You know what does scare the bejesus out of me?  *Feral dogs*. Why? I’ve been bitten by a stray dog TWICE while traveling.  There are packs of wild dogs running rampant in many parts of Eastern Europe (where I live). I’ve also encountered them in my travels to Central America, Peru and Kenya. And, while I haven’t been to Asia yet, I’ve heard stories about the [stray dogs in India](https://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/07/world/asia/india-stray-dogs-are-a-menace.html) and dogs in Thailand that pose a huge risk – even [killing people](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/dog-attacks-india-feral-stray-packs-children-dead-shooting-sitapur-uttar-pradesh-a8339576.html) in some situations. You have every logical right to be scared of getting attacked by a dog! Just like you’d take steps to protect yourself from pickpockets and other risks, here’s what you should do to stay safe around feral dogs. **Jump to:** - [When the dog is still far away](#far) - [The dog is close](#close) - [What to do if a lone dog attacks](#lone) - [If a pack of dogs attacks](#pack) - [Dog spray](#spray) - [Alternatives to dog spray](#alternatives) ## While the Dog Is Still Far Away… \[sta\_anchor id=”far” /\] ![street dogs in India](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/street-dogs-india.jpg "street dogs india - Mom Goes Camping") ### Stay Calm The most important advice for dealing with stray dogs is to *stay calm*.  If you freak out, then the dog will perceive that there is a threat and might attack you. Well, it is hard to stay calm when you are terrified of dogs like I am!  What makes it even worse is that I know dogs can smell fear.  Ok – maybe not *literally* smell fear.  But they can sense when someone is scared, and that can make them even more aggressive. How do I stay calm when I’m terrified? I find that picking up a big stick or having dog spray helps me stay calm. I’ve never had to use either, possibly because they reduce my fears and make me less of a target for the dogs. ### Go Around the Dogs! Some friends laugh at me (especially the ones who grew up in villages), but whenever I see stray dogs, I go waayyyy around them.  I don’t want to encroach on the dogs’ territory.  If a dog is eating, then I will definitely cross the street. But it isn’t always possible to go around the dogs.  Like the time I was hitchhiking from Serbia to Romania.  I’d just gone through the border (on foot).  There were about a dozen feral dogs in the road. The dogs looked particularly pissed off.  So, even though I’d planned on walking to the nearest village for lunch, I didn’t even try to pass them.  Instead, I waited for a car to pass by and hitched a ride past the dogs. ### Throw Stones or Not? Many people recommend throwing stones at LONE stray dogs (throw the stones *near* the dog, you don’t actually hit the dog). While you throw, you loudly tell the dog to F-off.   I prefer cursing at them in Serbian because there are so many great swears in the language…but I doubt that language or what you say actually matters 😉 This tactic can get the dog out of your path.  Often, the dog will get out of your path if it just sees you bending over for a stone. I’ve seen the stone-throwing method work many times.  Like when I was in Peru and a feral dog was barking its head off.  It was a tiny road with no way to go around the dog.  I was about to turn back when a local kid noticed my terror.  He calmly picked up a stone and hurled it at the dog. The dog moved out of the way quickly! On the flip side, I would never throw stones at a PACK of feral dogs. They outnumber me.  And they know it. Being in a pack gives them added confidence, and they could respond to your aggressive stone-throwing with an aggressive attack. \*Note that some people say throwing stones at any dog is a terrible idea.  Even a lone dog could respond to the threat by attacking.  This isn’t my personal experience.  But every situation is different, and it is a split-second judgment call. ### Pick Up a Big Stick Instead of a stone, you can pick up a big stick.  Hold this over your head to scare the dog off.  The stick is also useful if the dog does start to attack you.  I’ve never had to actually use the stick on a dog, but a stick seems like a much better weapon than a stone in your hand! ### Speak Nicely to the Dog Instead of throwing stones at the stray dog, you can try talking to it.  As you get closer, start talking in that high-pitch voice people use with pets.  The dog will understand that you aren’t a threat and let you pass without incident. Some people say this worked for them, even with snarling or charging dogs.  This probably works better with strays and not dogs which are truly feral though.   A feral dog won’t understand that you are a “friend” when you say “Hey cutie! Come here doggie!” Again, this is a judgment call.  I doubt that talking nicely would work with a growling, aggressive dog. Nor would it likely work with a pack of dogs. ### Give the Dog Food? If a dog is barking aggressively at you, throwing cookies at it won’t help.  The dog won’t even realize they are cookies – it will react as though they were stones and either 1) get out of the way or 2) defend itself. However, feeding a CALM feral dog can prevent it from attacking you (though it probably wouldn’t have attacked in the first place). The issue with this method is that *the dog will start to follow you around waiting for more food*. This is sometimes useful.  Several times my daughter and I encountered friendly stray village dogs while camping.  My daughter gave them some food and they stayed at our campsite for days.  My daughter got a playmate and we got a “protector” who also helped clean up dinner leftovers. The bottom line? Only feed a stray dog if you want to befriend it for the long-run. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/2757701653_72c3daaaf5_z.jpg "stray dogs - Mom Goes Camping")*Most stray dogs are calm and wont hurt you but I still give them their space* \[sta\_anchor id=”close” /\] ## If the Feral Dog Is Close… ### DO NOT RUN The one thing you should *absolutely not do* if you see a feral dog is run.  Running triggers a predatory instinct in the dog.  It will start to chase you.  And probably bite the hell out of your calves in the process. Even if you are getting attacked, do not run!  Instead, you’ll need to drop to the ground, curl in a ball,  and cover your neck.  A bite to your jugular can be fatal, and that’s where the dogs will aim for.                                                            **Heading out soon?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup & print them before you go. **[                                                           Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** ### Become a Statue There used to be a pack of feral dogs in my neighborhood.  I worked 3rd shift then and would come home at 5am.  The bus stop would be devoid of people at this time.  Several times as I exited the bus, I found myself surrounded by the pack of dogs. The best tactic in these situations? Just stay as still as possible.  Put your hands at your sides. Remain motionless.  Don’t make eye contact.  If you have a stone or stick, keep it down so it isn’t perceived as a threat. You might get sniffed, but the dogs will probably leave you alone since you are obviously not a threat.  The only reason to react is if they start to charge you. ### Use a Firm Voice If a dog is approaching you *and* is not aggressive (not growling or snarling), tell it to “Go away” in a firm voice.  Stay motionless while you do this. \[sta\_anchor id=”lone” /\] ## What to Do if a LONE Feral Dog Charges You Ideally, you know the signs of a dog attack.  This way you can react before they strike.   Look out for: - Raised hackles - Ears flat against head - Tension in the body If you see these signs, then put something between you and the dog (like a backpack).  The dog will hopefully bite the backpack instead of you. ### Should you strike the attacking dog? Again, this is controversial.  Some recommend staying as still as possible if being attacked by a feral dog (though I imagine this would be very difficult!).  The reason being that striking the dog could make it more aggressive. Instead of striking the dog, you are supposed to back off slowly.  If it attacks and gets you on the ground, you are supposed to curl up in a ball and use your hands to protect your neck.  The dog will eventually stop attacking.  Or so they say… \[sta\_anchor id=”pack” /\] ## If Attacked by a PACK of Feral Dogs When it’s a pack of feral dogs, there’s more of a consensus of what to do: *You must fight back!* The pack will try to surround you.  The alpha dog will lead the attack from the front, while the more submissive dogs will try to get you from behind. This is the time to start throwing stones at the dogs or swinging your stick at them. Aim for the alpha dogs.  If they back off, the rest of the pack will too. Look for high ground (like the top of a car).  Creep towards this and get on top of it.  It will be easier to defend yourself and the dogs will retreat faster when you have the high ground. \[sta\_anchor id=”spray” /\] ## Dog Attack Spray If a feral dog or pack of dogs is attacking you, your best defense is going to be dog spray. You aim for the nose of the dog or alpha dog. Dog spray is basically the same thing as human pepper spray.  The difference is that: - Dog spray only has up to 1% oleoresin capsicum (and thus is more humane) - The range is usually longer (around 12-15 feet vs. as little as 4 feet with human spray) - Has a stream spray pattern (whereas human pepper spray may be stream, fog, or foam) I’ve never had to use spray on a feral dog.  But it is apparently very effective.  Like bears, dogs have very sensitive noses.  That’s why you don’t want to use human pepper spray on dogs – it can actually burn their noses permanently. Even though you will probably never have to use it, simply having dog spray with you can make you feel more secure – which in turn makes you more calm around feral dogs and less likely to get attacked. **Here are your best options for dog pepper spray:** - [Halt dog repellent spray (belt clip)](https://amzn.to/2SEeTrW): Capsicum 0.35%, stream of up to 12 feet; 1.5oz size - [Sabre dog repellent spray (keyring version)](https://amzn.to/2Vw0Qq4): Capsicum 1%; stream of up to 12 feet; 0.75oz - [Sabre dog spray (belt clip version)](https://amzn.to/2SDMx0P): Capsicum 1%, stream of up to 15 feet; 1.8oz ![sabre dog spray](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/sabre-dog-spray.jpg "sabre dog spray - Mom Goes Camping") ## \*Isn’t that Animal Cruelty? *“But throwing stones or pepper-spraying a dog is cruel!”* you say? I too love animals, but I’m not about to let one attack me because years of mistreatment by humans has caused them to become starving and aggressive. As one attack victim [says](https://matadornetwork.com/abroad/throwing-rocks-at-dogs-in-chile/), “You may think throwing a rock at a dog is unthinkable. I applaud your inexperience.” \[sta\_anchor id=”alternatives” /\] ### When You Can’t Bring Pepper Spray If the dog spray is under 3oz, you can usually bring it in your checked luggage.  But, if you are unable to bring pepper spray with you for whatever reason, I’ve heard of **spray deodorant** working. Basically, you use the spray deodorant just like you would pepper spray on an attacking feral dog.  I don’t have personal experience with this.  But members of an online hitchhiking group I’m in say it works. You could also try a fog horn to scare off the dog ([Dog Horn XL](https://amzn.to/44TWXiM) is popular).  But fog horns are huge. I’m not about to backpack or travel with a fog horn clipped to my belt! That might be a better solution for cyclists who get chased by feral dogs. ## Feral Dog Attack FAQ: #### What is the difference between a stray dog and a feral dog? A stray dog is a domesticated dog that has been lost or abandoned, it’s used to humans and may be friendly or simply scared. A feral dog has had little or no contact with humans and behaves more like a wild animal, it’s unpredictable and more likely to be aggressive, especially in a pack. In practice, the distinction matters because the tactics that work on a stray (speaking calmly, offering food, making yourself non-threatening) may not work on a truly feral dog that doesn’t associate humans with safety or food. #### Does dog pepper spray work on feral dogs? Yes — dog pepper spray is one of the most effective deterrents available. Dogs have extremely sensitive noses, which makes capsicum-based sprays highly effective even at low concentrations (0.35–1% oleoresin capsicum). The key is getting the stream aimed at the nose of the charging dog before contact. At 12–15 feet range, a good dog spray gives you enough distance to deploy it before a dog reaches you. Carry it clipped to your belt or pack strap where you can access it in one second it’s useless if it’s buried in your bag. **Have you ever been attacked by a stray/feral dog while traveling? What did you do? Let us know in the comments!** --- Some resources for this article include: <https://bicycles.stackexchange.com/questions/45570/how-to-fend-off-a-pack-of-feral-dogs> <https://lifehacker.com/how-to-survive-a-dog-attack-1786501561> <https://www.cesarsway.com/dog-behavior/aggression/when-several-dogs-attack> <https://outdoors.stackexchange.com/questions/9674/should-i-run-if-i-see-wild-dogs> Image credits: “[Feral Dogs at Indian Institute of Manage](https://www.flickr.com/photos/cseeman/26804972229/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by cseeman “[night](https://www.flickr.com/photos/blinkofanaye/40281271531/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Blinkofanaye](https://www.flickr.com/people/blinkofanaye/) “” ([CC BY-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/2.0/)) by [Julia Manzerova](https://www.flickr.com/people/julia_manzerova/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety **Tags:** animals, attacks, dogs --- ### [9 Convincing Reasons Not to Buy a Pop Up tent](https://momgoescamping.com/pop-up-tents/) **Published:** August 24, 2016 **Author:** Diane **Content:** When I was a kid, there weren’t too many options for tents. You basically got a dome-shaped tent or an A-frame tent. Now, there are tons of options — including pop up tents. Well, lots of options doesn’t always mean good options! I get the appeal of pop-up tents. Dealing with tent poles can be really annoying. And there are countless stories along the lines of “a group of engineers went camping and couldn’t figure out how to put up the tent…” But, while pop-up tents seem really cool and practical, they absolutely suck in real camping conditions. Don’t believe me? Here are 9 reasons NOT to buy a pop up tent! ## Quick Summary: Why Pop-Up Tents Disappoint Pop-up tents promise convenience but deliver frustration. The biggest problems? They fold into massive 27-inch discs that are impossible to carry hiking, they drip condensation all night because they can’t breathe, and they’ll blow away in even moderate wind. Plus, you can’t replace broken poles, so one bent frame means your tent is trash. Save your money and get a traditional tent that actually works. ## 1. They Are 27 Inches (70cm) Across When Packed! Pop up tents vary in size when folded, but most of them are around this size when collapsed. They basically look like a giant disk when packed away. I once had Couchsurfing guests come visit and they were carrying a pop up tent with them. The huge thing was really difficult for them to carry around the city. It was really windy and a gust of wind almost blew the tent right out of their arms. I had a vision of them flying away like Mary Poppins with the pop up tent! So you can forget about using a pop up tent if you plan on backpacking. The massive size means they are only practical if you are camping close to your car. Even then, they take up way more trunk space than a traditional tent would. ![Large pop up tent folded into a massive circular disc that's difficult to transport](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/pop-up-tent-3.jpg) ## 2. Condensation Forms Inside Pop-Up Tents Pop up tents are made from a waterproof, non-breathable material. When the temperature drops at night, the temperature inside the tent is warmer because of your body heat. This temperature difference causes condensation to build up within the tent. As one UK camper described his experience using a pop up tent on a camping forum: “Unlike the other traditional style tent which had no condensation, the pop up tent had literally a puddle in the morning. No bed wetting jokes please!” Note that this is a problem with all single-layer tents. However, good single-layer tents have vents to reduce condensation. Most pop up tents are cheap and don’t have proper ventilation. Thus, the only solution to solve condensation is to leave the door open. But mosquitoes anyone? After waking up in a wet sleeping bag one too many times, I learned this lesson the hard way during my early camping days. Also read: [How to solve tent condensation](https://momgoescamping.com/tent-condensation/) ## 3. Pop-Up Tents Are Not Actually Waterproof Most pop-up tents are made from waterproof fabric, but they have “glued seams.” The glued seams eventually come undone and rain starts leaking through! Tent seams can be really confusing. What you need to know is that quality tents will sew or weld the seams with waterproof material between the seams. Really high quality tents will have the seams sealed with tape. They still eventually may need a new coating of waterproofing, but not for a long time. With pop-up tents, the seams are usually just glued together. After a few uses (or even right out of the box), these seams start to separate. I’ve heard too many stories of campers waking up in puddles because their “waterproof” tent leaked at the seams. Scared of bad weather? Read: [What to do if it rains when camping](https://momgoescamping.com/what-to-do-when-it-rains-when-camping/) ![Person seeking shelter under a tarp because their pop up tent isn't waterproof in the rain](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/pop-up-tent-2.jpg) ## 4. Wind Is the Enemy of Pop-Up Tents! The moment a gust of wind hits your pop-up tent, it is going to bend up like a pretzel! The flexible frame that makes these tents “pop up” also makes them incredibly unstable in wind. Most people who use pop-up tents say that they have to take them down when it gets windy. That is kind of ridiculous – especially if it is simultaneously raining and windy (which happens a lot when camping!). I’ve personally watched pop-up tents at music festivals collapse and tumble across fields like giant tumbleweeds. It’s almost comical until you realize someone paid money for that tent. ## 5. Pop-Up Tents Don’t Have a Vestibule or Porch This might not seem like a big deal if you’re new to camping, but one of the first [rules of camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wild-camping-rules/) is to always leave your boots and shoes outside the tent. Otherwise the tent gets stinky and lots of dirt gets tracked inside. Most modern tents have a little vestibule or “porch” in front of the tent where the rain fly extends over. You can keep your boots and some other gear there so it doesn’t get wet if it starts raining. Without a vestibule, you’ll have to put ALL your gear inside the tent with you (making it cramped and dirty) or just hope it doesn’t rain. Or that a slug doesn’t crawl into your boots at night and make them all slimy. 😉 Trust me, after years of camping, having a vestibule makes a huge difference in keeping your sleeping area clean and your gear organized. ## 6. They Are Easy to Set Up but Hard to Pack Away Yeah, you might be able to get a pop-up tent setup in 2 seconds, but getting it folded back down can be tricky. Some models require multiple people and a YouTube tutorial to figure out. I’ve watched campers struggle for 20 minutes trying to fold these things back into their carrying bags. The tent wants to spring back open, the fabric fights you, and you end up sweating more trying to pack up than you would have just assembling a regular tent. The first time you use one, budget at least 15 minutes for the teardown process while you figure out the folding technique. ![Protester camping in a pop up tent, demonstrating the challenges of these instant tents](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/pop-up-tent-5.jpg) ## 7. No Replacement Poles Available The poles in pop-up tents are really flimsy and prone to bending. This happens with other cheap tents too – but the difference is that you can usually find replacement poles or splints for standard tents. I’ve even used the medical tape from my first aid kit to repair a tent pole in a pinch while backpacking. Some brands of pop-up tents do have replacement poles available, but most do not. The poles are often custom-shaped and integrated into the tent design. So, that basically means your entire tent is going in the trash when the poles inevitably get bent. This is terrible for both your wallet and the environment. ## 8. It Isn’t That Hard to Put Up a Standard Tent The main draw of a pop-up tent is that it is easy to put up. For people who have never been camping before and are worried that you need an engineering degree to put up a tent, this is a huge draw. But it really isn’t that hard to put up a standard tent – even for beginners. My daughter learned how to do it when she was 4 years old. If she was tall enough, I am sure she could even do it by herself. Most modern tents use simple color-coded poles and clips that make setup intuitive. **Tip:** If you find it difficult to put up standard tents, get one with pole clips. Clips are easier and faster than pole sleeves, and they’re becoming the standard on most quality tents. ## 9. Pop-Up Tents Are Too Cheap to Last As the quote goes, “I am too poor to buy cheap things.” This doesn’t just apply to pop-up tents, but to most camping gear. If you try to save money by buying cheap gear, you will end up paying for it in the long term because you’ll be replacing the gear so often. There are higher quality pop-up tents available. But when you compare the cost vs. quality, you’ll get a lot more value with a traditional style tent. My 3-person tent cost about $50 and has held up very well over 5-years’ worth of intensive backpacking trips in 6 different countries. There were serious winds and rains during some of these trips. (I also have this [cheap ultralight tent](https://momgoescamping.com/cheap-ultralight-tents/) which only cost about $120 and has performed beautifully.) By comparison, you can expect your cheap pop-up tent to last for maybe a few trips – assuming no hard winds or rains. That $30 savings becomes $90+ when you have to replace it multiple times. ![Field of abandoned pop up tents at a music festival, showing how disposable these tents become](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/pop-up-tent-4.jpg) ## When Pop-Up Tents Actually Make Sense Pop-up tents aren’t completely useless. I have friends that use them when they go traveling in Greece. In Greece, [wild camping is illegal](https://momgoescamping.com/wild-camping-laws-europe/). But, when dark falls, they quickly put up the pop-up tent for stealth camping. However, these friends also bring a large, durable tent. This is what they use when they are somewhere remote (and don’t have to worry about being stealth). They definitely don’t rely on their pop-up tents when it is windy or rainy! ### Other Situations Where Pop-Up Tents Work: - **Your kids want to “camp” in the backyard** – Perfect for letting kids have an adventure without worrying about durability - **Music festivals** – When you know the tent is going to get ruined anyway and you’re too drunk to care (though it is appalling that [thousands of tents are discarded at festivals](https://www.theguardian.com/theobserver/she-said/2014/jun/13/tens-of-thousands-of-tents-are-discarded-at-festivals-and-i-know-why)!) - **Beach day shelter** – For a few hours of sun protection at the beach, not overnight camping - **You’ve got arthritis** – If you have mobility issues and can’t put up a normal tent but still want to enjoy the outdoors - **You invest in a quality model** – If you’re prepared to shell out the cash for a quality pop up tent with a waterproof rating (hydrostatic head) of at least 2000mm and with proper vents to prevent condensation ## Yes, There Are Some Decent Pop-Up Tents I still advise against pop-up tents in almost every situation. But, if you are going to get one, then make sure it has: - Strong, flexible poles that can withstand windy conditions - Ventilation windows to reduce condensation - Sealed or taped seams, not just glued - Guylines for staking out the tent walls in bad weather - A hydrostatic head rating of at least 2000mm Below are some better quality options if you’re set on getting a pop-up tent. ### 1. [Coleman Pop-Up Tent](https://amzn.to/44TxW7K) This pop-up tent has a roof panel that provides extra rain protection and ventilation, so condensation is less of a problem than cheaper models. It’s more durable than budget pop-up tents and has gear storage pockets inside. Still not perfect, but better than most. ### 2. [Quechua Pop Up Tent](https://amzn.to/4bJwN4I) Quechua is a brand which makes good quality gear for budget prices. Their pop-up tent is one of the few that has ventilation windows that you can leave open when it rains. The seam quality is also better than most pop-up tents in this price range. ## Better Alternative: Easy-to-Setup Traditional Tents **You are still better off with a standard tent.** Below are some tents which are easy to set up. As you can see, they all have the same type of construction: 2 poles which criss-cross over each other. The inner tent gets clipped in place. Then you throw the rain fly over and secure it down. It might not be as fast as a pop up tent, but it’s still pretty quick. And these tents will hold up better, won’t drip condensation on you, and can actually be used in the rain and wind. ### [Mountainsmith Morrison 2 Person Tent](https://amzn.to/2Zw7Y6K) This tent can be set up easily because it is free-standing and uses clips for the two poles. I particularly love that it has 2 doors, so you can get in and out without waking up your camping partner. It also has a proper vestibule for gear storage. [Get it here](https://amzn.to/2Zw7Y6K). ### [Alps Mountaineering 4-Person Tent](https://amzn.to/2LcGX2Z) This tent is really similar to the Mountainsmith tent above. The difference is that it is much larger and better for families. There are all the features you’d want in a camping tent: quick setup, real waterproofness, ventilation to prevent condensation, storage pockets, and good headroom. [Get it here](https://amzn.to/2LcGX2Z). [Read this complete guide to buying tents](https://momgoescamping.com/tent-buying-guide/) to get more recommendations based on your camping style. ## Pop Up Tent FAQ: #### Are pop up tents good for camping in the rain? Generally no. Most pop up tents use glued seams rather than taped seams, which start to separate after a few uses and let rain through. Even the ones marketed as waterproof tend to leak at the seams within a season. If you’re camping somewhere it might rain, which is almost everywhere you’re better off with a traditional dome tent with taped seams and a separate rain fly. The few quality pop up tents that do handle rain reasonably well cost as much as a good traditional tent anyway. #### How do you fold a pop up tent back into its bag? The standard technique is to twist the tent into a figure-eight shape and then fold the two loops together to form a flat circle. Most pop up tents fold the same way: hold the tent at the two sides of the top, twist one side toward you and the other away from you simultaneously, then bring the resulting loops together. The key is the twist — most people who struggle are trying to fold it flat without twisting first. Watching a YouTube video for your specific tent model before your first teardown is worth the two minutes. ## Final Thoughts on Pop-Up Tents After years of camping in various conditions and countries, I can confidently say that pop-up tents are a solution to a problem that doesn’t really exist. Yes, they set up quickly, but that 2-minute advantage disappears fast when you’re dealing with condensation, leaks, wind damage, or struggling to pack it back up. Save yourself the frustration and invest in a quality traditional tent. Your future camping self will thank you when you’re staying dry and comfortable instead of wrestling with a collapsing tent in the rain.                                                              **Heading out soon?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup. **[                                                              Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** --- **Image credits:** “[٢٠١٥٠٣٢١\_٠٩٣٥٢٣](https://www.flickr.com/photos/albargan/16273502924/)” ([CC BY-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/2.0/)) by [AlBargan](https://www.flickr.com/people/albargan/) “[Baggage for Lowlands](https://www.flickr.com/photos/gray_um/2787388731/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Graham of the Wheels](https://www.flickr.com/people/gray_um/) “[roskilde\_festival\_2007 1490](https://www.flickr.com/photos/catinatree/844707553/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [@nightgolfer](https://www.flickr.com/people/catinatree/) “[Snow Day! 02/02/2009](https://www.flickr.com/photos/dgjones/3263839549/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [DG Jones](https://www.flickr.com/people/dgjones/) “[P1080540](https://www.flickr.com/photos/algreen/2473248491/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [al\_green](https://www.flickr.com/people/algreen/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** tents --- ### [BabyDeeDee Sleeping Bag for Camping Review](https://momgoescamping.com/babydeedee-sleep-nest-travel/) **Published:** August 2, 2019 **Author:** Diane **Content:** When you’ve got a baby, it can be really difficult to get outdoors – especially when you can’t find the right gear for your baby.  So, I’m thrilled that manufacturers are finally making outdoor gear for babies. This includes the BabyDeeDee sleeping bag for babies. BabyDeeDee makes many sleep sacks for infants and little kids.  The bag I’m talking about though is called the [**Sleep Nest Travel**](https://momgoescamping.com/deedeebag).  It comes in three sizes (0-6 months, 6-18 months, and 18-36 months). It has a TOG rating of 3.5, so is suitable for colder weather.  If the temperature gets below 50F, you’ll need to put several warm layers on your baby. ![babydeedee camping sleeping bag for babies](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/babydeedee-travel-nest-640x640.jpg "babydeedee travel nest - Mom Goes Camping") ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/baby-sleeping-bag-1-640x766.jpg "baby sleeping bag 1 - Mom Goes Camping")*My daughter all snug in her sleeping bag*![BabyDeeDee camping sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Lidija-in-sleeping-bag.jpg "Lidija in sleeping bag - Mom Goes Camping")*And here she is on another trip sleeping in the Sleep Nest Travel It was a warm summer night camping so I removed the sleeves and the bag is partially unzipped Sorry the picture is all grainy I used a headlamp to take the photo in our tent 🙂* **[Get the Sleep Nest Travel here](https://momgoescamping.com/deedeebag)** ## What I Like about the BabyDeeDee Sleeping Bag When I [first went camping with my baby](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-with-baby/) (she was 4 months old on our first trip), there weren’t any sleeping bags available for babies that were suitable for camping.  I ended up using a fleece sleep sack with a bunch of layers on my baby.  This worked fine enough because the nighttime temperatures were warm.  But it was still a bit of a pain. ![baby in tent on sleeping pad](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/baby-on-sleeping-pad.jpg "baby on sleeping pad - Mom Goes Camping")*My baby on one of our first camping trips at 4 months old Shes in a fleece sleeping sack because there werent any other options at the time  I had to dress her in a zillion layers to keep her warm* After using the BabyDeeDee sleeping bag, I realize how much easier camping can be when the bag is actually designed for outdoor use.  Full disclosure: They sent me a free bag to try (and I’m very grateful that they did 🙂 ). **Here’s some of the features which made a big difference on our camping trips:** ### Can Get Baby into the Sleeping Bag without Waking Her The BabyDeeDee sleeping bag has a zipper all the way down the front.  It also has snaps over the shoulder area.  These features mean you can completely open up the sleeping bag. I opened up the sleeping bag and laid it out in the tent (on top of her sleeping mat).  At night, I rocked my girl to sleep outside – which is easier than trying to do it hunched over in a tent. 🙂 Once she was asleep, I entered the tent and laid her on top of the opened sleeping bag.  Then I closed the shoulder snaps around her arms and zipped up the front.  Voila! I was able to get her into the sleeping bag without waking her!!! ### Easy to Clean and Dries Fast Luckily, we haven’t had any diaper explosions on the BabyDeeDee bag while camping (yet, haha!).  However, my girl did spill a whole bunch of water on the sleeping bag. The bag is made out of normal sleeping bag material, which means it doesn’t act like a sponge (as a cotton sleep sack would).  The bag dried really quickly.  Dirt can mostly be just wiped off of it. **\*Note:** Even though this sleeping bag is easy to clean, I still got the blue version.  It seemed like it would show dirt less than the pink or gray one. My kids have a tendency to fall asleep outdoors in front of the campfire and then I carry them into the tent. ### Full-Length Two-Way Zipper The full-length zipper is helpful for getting your baby into the sleeping bag easily.  Since the zipper goes two-ways (you can open it from the top or the bottom),  you can even do a diaper change without taking your child out of the sleeping bag.  This is particularly nice if you have an infant. The full-way zipper also makes it easier to regulate temperature.  Just unzip the zipper a bit to cool down your child.  On one camping trip, I left the bag only about 2 inches zipped up when putting her to bed around 8:30PM.  Around midnight, the temperatures started dropping quickly so I just zipped the bag up the rest of the way.  It’s a lot better than waking your baby to put an extra sweater on her! ### Nice Fabric ![snuggling babydeedee sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/lydia-sleeping-bag.jpg "lydia sleeping bag - Mom Goes Camping") My daughter surprisingly really likes the sleeping bag.  She even wraps it around herself at home and snuggles on it.  I think she likes the sound that the fabric makes and it how it feels on her skin. ### Removable Sleeves ![Babydeedee sleeping bag with removable sleeves](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/babydeedee-bag.jpg "babydeedee bag - Mom Goes Camping") The removable sleeves feature is really nice to have on a baby sleeping bag.  That’s because the core area is really the most important for keeping warm. Most of our camping trips (at least the ones that the baby comes on) are not to some hardcore mountains where the temperature gets cold.  It’s perfectly warm enough to put her in long-sleeved PJs and use the sleeping bag without sleeves.  In colder weather, the sleeves get left on to keep her arms warm. \*I always bring along the sleeves just in case it gets cold.  I’ve also used the sleeves as a pillow for my daughter. ### Multi-Use ![baby sleeping bag in stroller](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/babydeedee-bag-stroller.jpg "babydeedee bag stroller - Mom Goes Camping") I’ve only used the BabyDeeDee Sleep Nest Travel for camping.  However, it could also be used as a sleep sack in a crib.  My girl is always kicking the blankets off of her, so I’m guessing that she’s be in this bag every night once winter comes! The bag also has a flap which a stroller buckle can go through.  I haven’t tried this yet, but it seems like it will work well enough for going out with your baby in winter. ### Price The BabyDeeDee sleeping bag is really affordable (around $40 to $55 depending on the size).  [Buy it here](https://momgoescamping.com/deedeebag). ## The Cons: There are only two real downsides of the BabyDeeDee Sleep Nest Travel. The first is that it’s only a TOG 3.5 bag.  That’s actually the highest rating for baby sleeping bags.  However, it means that the bag is only rated to about 54F. While TOG 3.5 is fine for indoor use, nighttime temperatures can get much colder than this when camping (read this post on [How Cold Is Too Cold for Tent Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/how-cold-is-too-cold-for-tent-camping/)). You’ll need to layer your baby’s clothes if you want to go camping in cold weather.  Ideally, you use a: - Base layer - An additional base layer (if it’s really cold) - Wool or fleece sleep suit - Hat and mittens - The sleeping bag The other con is that the sleeping bag isn’t adjustable.  Since I wanted to make sure I got enough use out of the sleeping bag, I got her the larger size. Note that buying a too-large sleeping bag for an infant is dangerous. You don’t want it so large that their head can get into the bag. Also, a too-large bag won’t be as warm.  All that extra space means that the bag won’t hold heat as well. My girl is gigantic for her age, so I was fine with getting the 18-36 month bag for her even though she was just 13 months at the time.  She’s 2 years old now and there is still plenty of room for her to grow.                                                        **Heading out soon with your little one?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup — print them before you go. **[                                                                         Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** ## BabyDeeDee Camping FAQ: #### Is the BabyDeeDee Sleep Nest Travel warm enough for camping? It depends on the conditions. The Sleep Nest Travel has a TOG rating of 3.5 the highest available for baby sleeping bags, which makes it suitable for cool but not cold camping conditions. For nighttime temperatures above 55°F, the bag alone with light pajamas is sufficient. Below that, you’ll need to layer: a merino wool or fleece sleep suit under the bag is the most practical approach. Below about 45°F, add a hat and consider a second insulating layer. The bag isn’t rated for genuinely cold conditions, it’s designed for temperate three-season camping, not mountain trips. #### What size BabyDeeDee sleeping bag should I get for camping? Get the correct size rather than sizing up for “more use out of it.” A too-large sleeping bag for an infant is a safety hazard, the excess fabric can allow their head to slip inside, creating a suffocation risk. It also reduces warmth since all that extra air space takes longer to heat up. BabyDeeDee’s three sizes (0–6 months, 6–18 months, 18–36 months) are generously cut, so sizing correctly still gives you room to grow within the size range. **[Get the BabyDeeDee Sleep Nest Travel here](https://momgoescamping.com/deedeebag)** ## Important: No matter what sleeping bag you use for your baby while camping, you’ll need a sleeping pad for her too.  Otherwise, the ground will suck heat out of her body.  I recommend the [Therm-A-Rest RidgeRest](https://amzn.to/2Cb8ZLi). It’s a closed-cell foam mat with an R-value of 2.6.  Fold it in half and you’ll get an R-value of 5.2 (very warm!).   The foam is comfortable but still firm enough for babies’ backs. Alternatively, you can use a portable bassinet or crib like [one of these](https://momgoescamping.com/baby-camping-beds/). **Need more advice about sleep setups for babies while camping? Read [this post](https://momgoescamping.com/best-baby-sleeping-bags-camping/).** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** babies, sleeping bag --- ### [Chuck Boxes: 15 Camp Kitchen Box Ideas and Plans](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-chuck-boxes/) **Published:** December 4, 2024 **Author:** Diane **Content:** If you go camping often, you know how annoying it is to pack up all your [kitchen items](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-kitchen-essentials-list/) for the trip, set them up, and then have to unpack them when you come home.  A simple solution to make packing easier is to use a chuck box or “camp kitchen box.”  Below is what you need to know about chuck boxes for camping, DIY chuck box plans, where to buy them, and also ideas for making a simple chuck box. ## What Is a Chuck Box? A chuck box is portable camp kitchen which fits in a box.  It usually has drawers, hutches, or cabinet doors to serve as storage and the top can be used as a stove stand. ### **Features of a Good Chuck Box** - Space for stove on top - Utensil drawer - Cabinet doors - Easy access to all supplies (even when stove is in use) - Can keep supplies inside while traveling - Won’t tip over ### Chuck Box vs. Portable Camp Kitchen Portable camp kitchens a larger than chuck boxes.  They usually have a space for your stove as well as counterspace for food prep.  Some even have sinks with drains. Because camp kitchens fold down, you must pack all supplies separately and set up the kitchen when you arrive at camp. By contrast, chuck boxes are smaller and don’t fold down. You can travel with all the gear already inside them.  It’s incredibly convenient and you don’t have to set anything up when you get to camp. - **Choose a camp kitchen if:** You will be camping at the same place for several days, are with a large group and need lots of space. - **Choose a chuck box if:** You are a minimalist camper, go on frequent short trips, and don’t want to spend time setting up the kitchen each time you get to camp. **Also see: [Best Portable Camping Kitchens](https://momgoescamping.com/best-portable-camping-kitchens/)** ![GCI Outdoor Master camp kitchen with sink](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/gci-outdoor-master-2.jpg "gci outdoor master 2 - Mom Goes Camping")The [GCI Outdoor Master camp kitchen with sink](https://amzn.to/3Kcqwms) It has tons ofspace but unlike with chuck boxes you have to take everything off it to pack it up ### What do you put in a camp chuck box? Chuck boxes are meant to hold *nonperishable* camp kitchen supplies. Food is kept in separate storage bins or coolers. This allows you to keep the chuck box packed so it is ready for each trip. Because they need to be portable, there is rarely enough room in a chuck box for a camp sink. You may be able to fit [collapsible camp sinks](https://momgoescamping.com/portable-camp-sinks/) into some chuck boxes though. #### **Chuck boxes should hold:** - Plates and bowls - Cups - Utensils - Pots, pans and kettle - Stove - Spare fuel - Water canisters - Spices, cooking oil and nonperishable essentials **\*Not sure what to eat while camping?** Check out my eBook with over 50 dehydrator backpacking recipes. They pack down to lightweight and you just add water to rehydrate. Plus, there’s tons of info on meal planning and nutrition for backpacking.  [Learn more here](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/). [![backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/backpacking-dehydrator-recipes-ebook.jpg "backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/) ## DIY Chuck Box Instructions and Plans Below are some chuck box ideas.  They range from simple chuck boxes made from plastic storage bins or Ikea shelves to more complex DIY builds. ### 1. Beginner’s DIY Chuck Box This DIY chuck box is fairly simple. There are no drawers on this chuck box. Nor are there shelves in the doors.  You’ll probably need to store pots and larger items separately too.  Despite these drawbacks, the simple design means it is much easier to build.  Yet, it still looks awesome and is a fully-functional camp kitchen box.  See the [design and instructions here](https://www.instructables.com/Ultimate-Camp-Box/). ![easy diy chuck box plan](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/simple-diy-chuck-box.jpg "simple diy chuck box - Mom Goes Camping") --- ### 2. Ikea Chuck Box One of the easiest ways to make a chuck box is to take an Ikea shelf with a door and turn it on its side.  Connect the door to the frame with a chain for added stability.  The downside of the Ikea chuck box method is that it is heavy.  These are best for chuck boxes that remain in the car.  Remember you should never cook in your car, so you’ll need a separate stove table! ![IKEA chuck box](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/ikea-chuck-box.jpg "ikea chuck box - Mom Goes Camping") --- ### 3. Chuck Box with Fold-Out Side Cabinets This is one of the nicest DIY chuck boxes I’ve seen. The doors open to serve as support for the sideboards.  You end up with lots of workspace on top.  The side cabinets are perfect for spices, oil and condiments. You can find [instructions and plans here](https://www.instructables.com/Camping-Chuck-Box/). ![chuck box folded](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/chuck-box-diy.jpg "chuck box diy - Mom Goes Camping")Chuck box folded[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/chuck-box-diy-2.jpg "chuck box diy 2 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/chuck-box-diy-2.jpg)Chuck box open --- ### 4. Vintage Style Camp Chuck Box This wood chuck box is very similar to the one above.  It also has side tables which open up and are supported by two cabinet doors with storage inside.  The main difference is that it doesn’t have a hutch door attached by a chain. Instead, you get a pull-out drawer at the bottom. While this does mean less workspace, the design is much more stable and weighs less. See the [instructions and plans here](https://www.instructables.com/Deluxe-Camp-Chuck-Box-Glamping-Style). ![gorgeous vintage style chuck box](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/vintage-chuck-box.jpg "vintage chuck box - Mom Goes Camping") --- ### 5. Plywood Chuck Box This compact, lightweight chuck box is made out of plywood.  The entire setup fits into a plastic tote.  You can also use the tote box as a stand.  Totes aren’t very stable though, so I wouldn’t recommend cooking in this setup.  Instead, put the chuck box on the ground and use the tote for other storage or as a sink. [See the plans here](https://www.instructables.com/YACK-BOX-Yet-Another-Camp-Kitchen/). ![yack box camping kitchen in a box](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/yack-box.jpg "yack box - Mom Goes Camping") --- ### 6. Deluxe Chuck Box By far one of the largest chuck boxes I’ve seen, this design gives you a very luxurious camp kitchen – yet it still folds down into a box which fits into a pickup truck (good luck getting this into a small car trunk though!).  The base sets up separately and gives you a place to put water jugs. [See the design here](https://www.instructables.com/Chuck-Box-Camp-Kitchen/). The maker also takes orders. ![deluxe chuck box diy](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/chuck-box-for-pickup-truck.jpg "chuck box for pickup truck - Mom Goes Camping") --- ### 7. Small Chuck Box with Slide-Out Cutting Board Even though this is a very small chuck box, it has some cool features which give it more function.  My favorite part is the slide-out cutting board drawer.  There are also brackets on the sides for hanging pots and pans.  The shape makes it very stable and safe for cooking on.  See the [design and instructions here](https://www.instructables.com/Chuck-Box-Camping-Kitchen/). **![compact chuck box diy](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/chuck-box-with-slide-out-cutting-board.jpg "chuck box with slide out cutting board - Mom Goes Camping")** --- ### 8. Metal Chuck Box from Modified Tool Box By simply removing the drawers and adding a dropdown door, you can turn a toolbox into a camping chuck box.  What’s particularly cool about this DIY chuck box is that Brian repurposed the drawers to make side tables on the box.  See the [design and instructions here](https://www.instructables.com/Campman-Chuckbox/). ![chuck box from modified metal tool box](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/chuck-box-from-tool-box.jpg "chuck box from tool box - Mom Goes Camping") --- ### 9. REI Chuck Box I don’t have permission to post images of their chuck box, but you can find plans for a chuck box at REI [here](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fblog%2Fcamp%2Fhow-to-build-your-own-camp-kitchen-chuck-box).  The design is pretty popular. --- ## Store-Bought Chuck Boxes If you want a perfect chuck box but don’t want to make it yourself, your best bet is to look for locals who make and sell them.  Etsy has a lot of people selling them.   There are very few brands which sell chuck boxes nationwide.  I’ve listed the ones I know of below. ### 10. Yoke Chuck Box The[ Yoke chuck box](https://amzn.to/3Zy0HWm) is a really cool chuck box. It’s compact and has some nice storage features.  It is made from roto-molded plastic, which is very tough and durable but still allows it to be lightweight. While not the cheapest chuck box you can buy, it’s definitely one of the best.  I also like that it’s made by a women-run and family-owned company – not some big corporation. 🙂 ![yoke chuck box](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/yoke-chuck-box.jpg "yoke chuck box - Mom Goes Camping") ![Yoke Chuck Box for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/yoke-chuck-box-1.jpg "Chuck Box - Mom Goes Camping") --- ### 11. King Charles Chuck Kitchen The company Trail Kitchens makes a chuck box called the King Charles.  It is a lightweight aluminum camp box with cool features.  Unfortunately, it comes at a fairly high price tag. See it [here](https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1XG1QzNC6j/). ![king charles chuck box](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/king-charles-chuck-box.jpg "king charles chuck box - Mom Goes Camping") --- ### 12. CampChef Chuck Box Here’s a more affordable chuck box you can buy.  The compartments are insulated so you can also use them as a cooler for food and drinks.  I like that the chuck box has legs so you essentially get a table out of it.  This is also one of the lightest weight chuck boxes you can buy. [Get it here](https://amzn.to/3RElaVp).[![Camp Chef Serpa kitchen box](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/camp-chef-serpa-1.jpg "camp chef serpa 1 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/camp-chef-serpa-1.jpg) --- ### 13. Shimoyama Camp Storage Box [This camp storage box](https://amzn.to/3LsHXjQ) has a wood top which can be used as a kitchen table or cutting board.  There are doors on the front and sides so you can easily access stuff inside.  Just add organizers and you’ve got a good chuck box.  The brands Naturehike and Nice C also make similar products (see those boxes [here](https://amzn.to/3V3Bi2M) and [here](https://amzn.to/41UPJbD)). [![SHIMOYAMA Folding Storage Camping Box with Wooden Egg Roll Table Board, 75L Storage Bin, Trunk Organizer for Outdoor Picnic, Car, Celadon Green](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51RJHP-b64L._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B9X6C8V2?tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) --- ## Improvised Chuck Boxes You don’t have tools for making a chuck box but also don’t want to buy one? You can improvise a chuck box out of crates, totes, storage bins or carts. Look for boxes which are front opening or have drawers.  This makes it easier to access supplies. You can add  dividers or other organizers inside the box to keep gear separate. Below are some ideas of what you can use to improvise a simple chuck box. **Warning:** It isn’t safe to put a stove on top of plastic.  You’ll need a separate place to put the stove. ### 14. Rubbermaid Chuck Box Rubbermaid makes a lockable storage container called the “Action Packer.”  The 24 and 35 gallon sizes are perfect to use as a chuck box.  You’ll need to add some storage compartments and dividers though.  Here’s an [example of a customized Action Packer by Scout Master](https://scoutmastercg.com/action-packer-patrol-box-ideas/).  You can get the Action Packer at [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Drubbermaid%2Baction%2Bpacker) or [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000I1BU6E/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B000I1BU6E&linkId=ccb736ec5d147fe55d620bb2e18cc4ab). ![Rubbermaid action packer chuck box](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/rubbermaid-action-packer.jpg "rubbermaid action packer - Mom Goes Camping") --- ### 15. Tool Box Chuck Box Most large tool boxes do *NOT* make good chuck boxes: you usually have to lift off a top lid in order to get to the supplies, which is pretty annoying when cooking.  However, there are some tool boxes which make good chuck boxes. They should have drawers or slide-out compartments – then you’ll have easy access to supplies inside. The [Dewalt mobile work station](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0145NWOI8/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B0145NWOI8&linkId=60aff87b1d318e0a9ebfcc39549c3bc3) and [Stalwart rolling tool box](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002ZZHK9W/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B002ZZHK9W&linkId=00a01d75ecd6cd26224354e0e68a1763) (shown below) both make good chuck boxes. They have wheels, so it’s easier to transport your kitchen. The bottom compartments have pull-out drawers so you can access equipment even if there is something stacked on the lid.  [This Keter tool box](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07GRGQ466/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07GRGQ466&linkId=3b52d37f4eb214a53be843aa6c50626a) also would work if you don’t mind being closer to the ground. ![stalwart rolling tool box chuck box](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/stalwart-rollling-tool-box-chuck-box.jpg "stalwart rollling tool box chuck box - Mom Goes Camping") --- ### 16. Quick Cart on Wheels Chuck Box [The Quik Cart cart](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B081W9GC8P/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B081W9GC8P&linkId=3c83a97e50aadc6122f9cb8222b35d3b) on wheels make a pretty good chuck box too.  The company makes a few versions, including one with 25 storage compartments on the sides for your utensils. [![dbest products Quik Cart Collapsible Rolling Crate on Wheels for Teachers Tote Basket 80 lbs Capacity, Made from Heavy Duty Plastic and Used as a Seat, Canary](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/31t+Nqa2ieL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09KMM2WRG?tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) ## Camp Chuck Box FAQ: #### What is the difference between a chuck box and a camp kitchen? A chuck box is a self-contained storage box for camp kitchen gear that you can travel with everything already packed inside, you arrive at camp and it’s ready to use with no setup. A camp kitchen (like the GCI Outdoor Master) is a larger folding table system that gives you more counter space but requires unpacking and setting up each time. Chuck boxes are better for frequent short trips where convenience matters most; camp kitchens are better for longer stays or large groups who need more prep space. #### How big should a chuck box be? For 2 people, a chuck box in the 20–30 litre range holds everything you need. For a family of 4, you’re looking at 40–60 litres, roughly the size of a large Rubbermaid Action Packer. The key constraint isn’t volume, it’s weight: a heavy chuck box defeats the purpose if you’re loading and unloading it frequently. Aim for under 15lbs fully loaded for easy one-person carrying. If you’re going over that, add wheels. --- ## Don’t forget about my eBook **Want gourmet meals on the trail?** My dehydrator recipes ebook has 50+ calorie-dense backpacking recipes — just add hot water. **[Get it here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck)** [![backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/backpacking-dehydrator-recipes-ebook.jpg "backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/backpacking-dehydrator-recipes-ebook.jpg) --- ###### **Image credits:** “[Family car camping – with the chuck box](https://www.flickr.com/photos/bpende/632966677/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [bpende](https://www.flickr.com/people/bpende/), [Pilgrim55](https://www.instructables.com/member/Pilgrim55/) at <https://www.instructables.com/Camping-Chuck-Box/>, <https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/>, [GeorgianBay Scott](https://www.instructables.com/member/GeorgianBay+Scott/), at <https://www.instructables.com/Deluxe-Camp-Chuck-Box-Glamping-Style/>, <https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/>, [yeltrow](https://www.instructables.com/member/yeltrow/), [thetoolman](https://www.instructables.com/member/thetoolman/) at <https://www.instructables.com/Chuck-Box-Camp-Kitchen/>, <https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/>, [wgreunke](https://www.instructables.com/member/wgreunke/) at <https://www.instructables.com/Ultimate-Camp-Box/>, <https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/>, [Matt a tatt tatt](https://www.instructables.com/member/Matt+a+tatt+tatt/) at <https://www.instructables.com/Chuck-Box-Camping-Kitchen/>, <https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/>, [briankcurtis](https://www.instructables.com/member/briankcurtis/) at <https://www.instructables.com/Campman-Chuckbox/>, <https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/> , ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** kitchen --- ### [Best Portable Camp Sinks](https://momgoescamping.com/portable-camp-sinks/) **Published:** October 21, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I’m a big advocate of getting dirty when camping.  But, while a bit of [dirt is good for you](https://momgoescamping.com/let-kids-get-dirty/), there comes a time when you’ll need to wash your hands, wash dishes, or do other cleanup.  For these moments, you’ll want a portable camping sink. **There are six options for camp sinks:** 1. [**Basins**](#basin) 2. [**Collapsible Basins**](#collapsible) 3. [**Field Sinks**](#field) 4. [**Kitchen Stations**](#stations) 5. [**Gravity Sinks**](#diy) 6. [**Sinks with Pumped Water**](#pump) \[sta\_anchor id=”basin” /\] ## 1. Basins ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/9250353847_afa4a41252_c.jpg "washing dishes at large camp - Mom Goes Camping")*The more people and dishes you have the larger basins need to be* - **Best For:** Doing dishes - **You’ll need:** Three separate basins, optional drain tube - **Nice Features:** Handles, drain spout, round shape Basins make a great camp sink for washing dishes.  You’ll need three separate basins.  Any cheap basin or bucket large enough to hold your dishes will do. It’s easier to do dishes in a round basin though. Good handles also help prevent splashing when filling and dumping. Choose a basin with a drain spout. Connect a drain tube and you won’t have to worry about lugging dirty water to dump and splashing yourself. Also Read: [How to Wash Dishes Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wash-dishes-camping/) ### Recommended 1 [![Joseph Wash & Drain Basin](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/21itJ2kvP9L._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AVWE6O8?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [Joseph Wash & Drain Basin](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AVWE6O8?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) This camp sink is 2.35 gallons in size, which is the right size for about two people.  There’s a drain plug with a strainer. It sits on legs and has sturdy carrying handles. [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AVWE6O8?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) 2 [![CreativeWare Double Walled Tub With Drain Plug](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/31aK-XtRW+L._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07L93DYQX?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [CreativeWare Double Walled Tub With Drain Plug](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07L93DYQX?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) This tub works well as a camping sink because it has a drain and sturdy handles which make it easier to carry.  It comes in 4.375 gallon and 8.5 gallon sizes. [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07L93DYQX?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) --- \[sta\_anchor id=”collapsible” /\] ## 2. Collapsible Basins ![UST Collapsible camp sink](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/ust-camp-sink-300x199.png "ust camp sink - Mom Goes Camping") - **Best For:** Doing dishes - **You’ll need:** Three separate basins - **Nice Features:** Pour handle at bottom, round shape You can also use collapsible basins for 3-bin washing dishes method.  Collapsible bins take up less storage space. Because of the flexible nature of the material, **collapsible sinks with drains will leak.** Choose a collapsible sink *without* a drain plug. This does mean you will have to lift the sink to dump the dirty water.  To prevent splashing, look for ones with good grab handles.  Some even have a special pour handle near the bottom of the sink. ### Recommended #### 1 [![UST Collapsible Sink](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/318knXFvcoL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C9D8CNC?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [UST Collapsible Sink](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C9D8CNC?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) The UST sink comes in 4.23 and 2.25 gallon sizes. It’s lightweight, compact, has sturdy carry handles and a nice shape. [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C9D8CNC?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) 2 [![Friendly Swede Collapsible Bucket with Lid](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51sggtLHlbL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06Y6DRDFZ?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [Friendly Swede Collapsible Bucket with Lid](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06Y6DRDFZ?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) This basin comes in sizes from 2.64 to 7.92 gallons. It has a mesh pocket for storing supplies and a bottom grab handle for easier dumping. Hang upsidedown for faster drying. [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06Y6DRDFZ?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) 3 [![Sea to Summit Collapsible Sink](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41663lDqL5L._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000T9LQDC?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [Sea to Summit Collapsible Sink](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000T9LQDC?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) It holds 2.64 gallons but weighs just 4.7oz.  The round shape and sturdy material means the sink stands on its own. It’s easy to carry without spilling. [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000T9LQDC?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) --- \[sta\_anchor id=”field” /\] ## 3. Field Sinks/Fish Cleaning Table - **Best For:** Food prep for large groups - **You’ll need:** Drain pipe, bucket, hose - **Nice Features:** Faucet, trashbag holder While field sinks are designed for cleaning fish, they can also be great for camping. The large, sturdy surface is good for doing large amounts of meal prep. You’ll need to connect the faucet to a hose or spigot and a bucket for the drainpipe. With this setup, you can rinse vegetables at the table. However, the setup isn’t good for washing dishes as there’s only one basin and the drain bucket fills quickly. ### Recommended #### 1 [![Dragosum 42'' Fish Cleaning Table](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41tLP05Iy8L._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CRXZN2JX?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [Dragosum 42” Fish Cleaning Table](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CRXZN2JX?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) This folding table is sturdy, holds up to 300lbs, and has lots of features like a double sink, faucet, and a garden hose connector for water under pressure. [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CRXZN2JX?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) 2 [![Tricam Fish Cleaning Table](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/4128H5myZLL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GI0RF0Y?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [Tricam Fish Cleaning Table](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GI0RF0Y?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) It is simpler than the sink table above but might be better for camping because of that.  The table is large enough to hold additional basins or even do food prep.  There’s a drain pipe and a faucet which can be connected to a hose or pumpable water. [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GI0RF0Y?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) --- \[sta\_anchor id=”stations” /\]                                                        **Heading out soon?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup — print them before you go. **[                                                            Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** ## 4. Kitchen Stations ![SylvenSport camp kitchen station with a sink](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Dine-O-Max™-camp-kitchen-SylvanSport.png "Dine-O-Max™-camp-kitchen-SylvanSport - Mom Goes Camping") - **Best For:** Food prep, some dishes - **You’ll need:** Optional drain pipe, bucket, hose - **Nice Features:** Removable sink, cabinets, adjustable legs A kitchen station usually consists of an area for your stove and food prep, but some portable camp kitchens also have a sink. Depending on the type of table or camp kitchen, the sink might have a faucet which can be connected to a pump.  Or it might just have a basin with or without a drainpipe.  Since portable kitchens tend to a pricy (expect to pay at least $150), spend some time thinking about how you will actually use the sink station and what features you need.  Read this post about **[Choosing Portable Camp Kitchens](https://momgoescamping.com/best-portable-camping-kitchens/).** ### Recommended 1 [![GCI Outdoor Master Kitchen](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41YSKdo9BeL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C3WK867?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [GCI Outdoor Master Kitchen](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C3WK867?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) This portable camp kitchen has a sink with a drain pipe.  The sink doesn’t have a faucet but there is space for you to put a clean water jug next to the sink. [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C3WK867?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) 2 [![SylvanSport Outdoor Camp Kitchen](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/4100AzarXuL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0818CQ6KY?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [SylvanSport Outdoor Camp Kitchen](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0818CQ6KY?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) This glamping camp kitchen has tons of features, including a built-in sink basin. It doesn’t have a drain pipe or faucet though. [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0818CQ6KY?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) --- \[sta\_anchor id=”diy” /\] ## 5. Gravity Sinks ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/igloo-hand-washing-station.jpg "igloo hand washing station - Mom Goes Camping") - **Best For:** Washing hands, filling water bottles and pots, some food prep - **You’ll need:** Stand or hanger - **Nice Features:** Drainage bucket, hands-free operation Want a camp sink with running water? You can easily make a gravity sink.  These consist of a water tank which can be opened/closed.  Gravity forces the water out, so no pump is needed. It’s easy to make cheap water containers with spigots [like these](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B076BS6PJK/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B076BS6PJK&linkId=d594a7b59cf190fe67dac4041fa43da6), or even recycled bottles. Gravity sinks are *not* good for washing dishes.  Rinsing under the faucet wastes a lot of water compared to the 3-bin method.  However, gravity sinks are great for washing hands, filling water bottles or pots and a bit of food prep. ## Portable Camp Sink FAQ: #### What is the best way to wash dishes while camping? The three-bin method is the gold standard: one basin with hot soapy water for washing, one with hot rinse water, and one with cold water and a small amount of bleach (about 1 tablespoon per gallon) for sanitizing. Scrape all food scraps into the trash before washing, this is the most important step for both cleanliness and keeping your rinse water clean longer. Dump graywater at least 200 feet from any water source, your campsite, and trails. Never dump it directly into a stream. #### Do you need a special camp sink or can you just use a regular basin? A regular plastic basin or bucket works perfectly well as a camp sink, the camping-specific versions just have features that make the job easier, like drain plugs, pour handles, and collapsible designs that pack flat. For car camping with a group, a collapsible basin with a bottom pour handle is the most practical option since you don’t have to lift and tip the whole heavy basin to dump it. For backpacking, a lightweight collapsible sink like the Sea to Summit version at 4.7oz is worth the minimal weight. **For more, see: [Gravity Sink Designs](https://momgoescamping.com/gravity-sink-designs/)** --- \[sta\_anchor id=”pump” /\] ## 6. Sinks with Pumped Water [![diy camp hand washing sink with foot pump](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/camping-hand-washing-station-with-pump.jpg "camping hand washing station with pump - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/camping-hand-washing-station-with-pump.jpg) - **Best For:** Washing hands, filling water bottles and pots, some food prep - **You’ll need:** Probably some buckets, hoses and a stand - **Nice Features:** Foot pump, adjustable flow Do you want your camp sink to have pumped water going through a faucet? You will probably need to go the DIY route. It’s fairly easy to add a battery-powered or foot-powered faucet to your sink.  You might even be able to use the same pump for showering. ### Recommended 1 [![Kedum Portable Camping Shower](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41Iplt0In8L._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074ZK5K4P?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [Kedum Portable Camping Shower](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074ZK5K4P?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) To use, just put the pump into a clean water source.  Secure the faucet over your portable sink basin with the included hook. Turn the faucet on and you’ve got running water. The pump works with a 2200mAh battery which can be charged with USB (making it great for [solar chargers](https://momgoescamping.com/best-portable-solar-panels-camping/)). [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074ZK5K4P?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) 2 [![Ivation Battery-Powered Shower](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41L7yDs2aDL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IFHFJXI?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [Ivation Battery-Powered Shower](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IFHFJXI?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) This faucet with an electric pump works in the same way as the one above.  It’s also a very reliable brand with lots of good reviews.  It’s lightly cheaper than the Kedsum faucet but only comes with one battery and faucet head. [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IFHFJXI?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) 3 [![Tye Works Standard Hand Wash System](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41PNTMe30+L._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007QUJ7B0?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [Tye Works Standard Hand Wash System](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007QUJ7B0?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) This kit includes a foot pump and faucet. You just need a bucket and have a sink with running water. [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007QUJ7B0?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) **Did you forget something? See this [List of Camp Kitchen Essentials](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-kitchen-essentials-list/) to make sure your kitchen is setup right.** --- ###### Image credits: “[Washing hands](https://www.flickr.com/photos/cdcglobal/14968410321/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [CDC Global Health](https://www.flickr.com/people/cdcglobal/) “[Handwashing station](https://www.flickr.com/photos/cdcglobal/14804973269/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [CDC Global Health](https://www.flickr.com/people/cdcglobal/) “[Simple handwashing facility](https://www.flickr.com/photos/gtzecosan/6908552507/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Sustainable sanitation](https://www.flickr.com/people/gtzecosan/) <https://www.af.mil/News/Photos/igphoto/2000031626/>, “[Breakfast Dishes](https://www.flickr.com/photos/bennettanneb/2248203342/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Anne Bennett](https://www.flickr.com/people/bennettanneb/), “[ ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/cutey5/9250353847/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [ezola](https://www.flickr.com/people/cutey5/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** kitchen, sink --- ### [DIY Ultralight Windscreen for Canister Stove](https://momgoescamping.com/diy-windscreen-canister-stove/) **Published:** November 6, 2019 **Author:** Diane **Content:** For a long time, I got by without using a windscreen for my canister stove.  If it was particularly windy, I would just make sure to set up the stove next to a tree stump or boulder to block the wind. But, on my last backpacking trip, it was insanely windy.  There were no natural wind shields on the bare terrain.  I watched as the wind blew the flame several inches away from my cook pot. It took *forever* to boil water like that. So, I decided it was time to make a wind shield. **\*[Click here to jump to the instructions](#instructions).** ## Why Use a Windscreen with Your Backpacking Stove? ![homemade windscreen](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/final-windscreen.jpg "final windscreen - Mom Goes Camping") If you’ve ever tried to calculate how much fuel to bring backpacking, you know it’s insanely complicated.  You have to calculate things like: the fuel consumption of your stove, the fuel quality, cook time for your food, and the efficiency of your setup. Wind is one of the things that can ruin your setup’s efficiency. ### **How much fuel does the wind rob you of?**  In a [test performed by Tony Bushwalking](https://tonysbushwalking.wordpress.com/2011/07/04/windscree-tests-jetboil-gcs/), he found that it took more than 5x the amount of fuel (5g versus 25.4g per 80C water temperature increase) without a windscreen.  Not only is that a lot of fuel wasted, but a lot of time too. This isn’t the only study either.  [MSR reports](https://www.msrgear.com/blog/stoves-101-how-much-fuel-should-i-carry/) that just a 5mph wind can cause you to use 3 times more fuel.   An old [Backpacking Light Magazine article](https://backpackinglight.com/comparative_fuel_efficiency_and_weight_of_stoves_pt1/) found this too. Fuel is expensive and bulky.  And it’s a pain in the butt if you run out of it while on the trail (here’s [how you can cook over a campfire](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-cook-over-a-campfire/) if you must).  So, it’s in your best interest to carry a windscreen.  The weight of the windscreen balances out with the weight of fuel you are saving. ## Are Windscreens Safe on Upright Canister Stoves? The easiest way to make a windscreen is just to get a big piece of sturdy foil or ultralight metal.  Then you wrap this around your entire stove setup.  Voila! Wind blocked. This setup works well with alcohol or solid fuel tablet stoves.  It also works great with gas stoves where the burner is set apart from the canister via a hose. However, windscreens on upright canister stoves can be dangerous.  It has to do with how the windscreen traps heat and reflects heat back towards the canister.  **The canister can get too hot and explode!**  This is why manufacturer instructions advise against using windscreens with their canister stoves. Some people still use wrap-around windscreens with upright canister stoves.  The consensus is that **if the canister is “ouch hot” to touch, then it is dangerously hot.**  That means you need to monitor the temperature of the canister by occasionally touching it while you cook. ![wind screen on alcohol stove](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/369086456_cd1bc4b384_c.jpg "wind screen on alcohol stove - Mom Goes Camping")*It is completely safe to use wrap around windscreens on alcohol stoves like this*![MSR whisperlite international](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/msr-whisperlite-international-stove-copy.jpg "msr whisperlite international stove copy - Mom Goes Camping")*It is also safe to use wrap around windscreens with stoves like this because the screen doesnt go around the canister* **Not sure what to eat while backpacking? Check out my eBook.  It has over 50 ultralight, calorie-dense, healthy recipes for the trail plus loads of info on planning backpacking meals.  [Learn more here](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/).** ![dehydrator backpacking recipes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/book-with-tablet.png "book with tablet - Mom Goes Camping") ### Safe Windscreens for Canister Stoves Instead of using wrap-around windscreens with upright canister backpacking stoves, you can adapt the design so it is safer.  The key points to remember about safety are: - **The windscreen should not surround the canister, only the stove.** - **Heat should be reflected *up* and not down onto the canister.** There are a few store-bought options for these safe windscreens. [Optimus makes a clip-on windshield](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HQLGTBU/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00HQLGTBU&linkId=c8c4a97fa342ed7597094d0f7061e3b9) that fits every EN417 (screw-on) gas canister.  If you have a OD1R Micro stove, there is the [Soto Micro Windscreen](https://amzn.to/2CuBaCh). You’ll notice that the designs on these are pretty simple: A piece of metal goes around the burner.  So, I decided to mimic the design and see if I couldn’t make my own DIY windscreen for my canister stove. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/optimus-windscreen.jpeg "optimus windscreen - Mom Goes Camping")*The Optimus windscreen attaches to any screw on type gas canister [Get it here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F5EUL7S/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00F5EUL7S&linkId=c1dc8d398b7d1dbdd26d8ccb6651ab95)*![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/snow-peak-giga-power-wind-shield.png "snow peak giga power wind shield - Mom Goes Camping")*Snow Peak GigaPower stove with windscreen* ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/soto-micro-windscreen-1.jpg "soto micro windscreen - Mom Goes Camping")*Soto Micro windscreen [Get it here](https://amzn.to/2CuBaCh)* ## DIY Stove Windscreen Instructions ![DIY windscreen from pie tin](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/pie-tin.jpg "pie tin - Mom Goes Camping") Admittedly, it took me a few tries to get the windscreen right.  The first couple of attempts didn’t work out.  I’m going to talk about those failed attempts so you can figure out which DIY windscreen design makes the most sense for you. The successful DIY windscreen is made so it nests in my cook pot. It only weighs 16g (0.56 ounces!) so doesn’t really add anything to my cook setup weight (especially considering how much fuel it saves me). ### **Supplies Needed:** - Disposable pie tin (I used a 7-inch one) - Scalpel (scissors or tin snips will also work) - About 15 inches of sturdy metal wire - A small piece of thinner wire or a couple of paper clips - Cutting surface (I have an awesome cutting mat; some pieces of cardboard would work too) ### Failed Attempt 1: ![DIY clip on windscreen step 1](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/unsuccessful-clip-on-windscreen-1.jpg "unsuccessful clip on windscreen 1 - Mom Goes Camping") ![unsuccessful clip on windscreen](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/unsuccessful-clip-on-windscreen.jpg "unsuccessful clip on windscreen - Mom Goes Camping") I first tried to make a clip-on style windscreen that goes right above the canister.  To make it, I made some slits down the sides of the pie tin so I could bend it into shape.  There were three problems with this design: - The bottom of the windscreen ended up being really flimsy. It wouldn’t sit straight on the canister.  I imagine that wind would just make it worse. - Once you cut the top edge of the pie tin, it loses its structural integrity. I thought about using wire around the edge to make it stronger but it just seemed like a pain in the butt. - Burner access: With this style of windscreen, you can’t access the gas control knob. The solution is to leave a portion exposed.  However, this didn’t seem possible with flimsy tin. For this to work, you’d have to get a sturdy material.  [This guy](https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/107187/) used 0.004 stainless steel to make a conical windscreen.  Personally, I’d rather just buy a windscreen than go to the trouble of getting stainless steel and worry about slicing my fingers apart while cutting it. ### Attempt #2: ![unsuccessful suspended windscreen](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/unsuccessful-suspended-windscreen.jpg "unsuccessful suspended windscreen - Mom Goes Camping") This version was based on [this DIY windscreen design at The Trek](https://thetrek.co/appalachian-trail/diy-pocket-rocket-windscreen/).  With that design, a piece of metal is wrapped around the stove (but not the canister).  It is held in place with metal hooks placed in the existing holes in the stove. The difference with my design is that the pie tin keeps its bottom, so it also reflects heat upwards to the pot. The issue with this design is that you have to attach the windscreen to the metal hooks on the stove.  It’s actually not that big of a deal.  However, those hooks would definitely get HOT. What if I wanted to pack up the stove immediately after using it? I’d have to wait for the hooks to cool down first. This issue led me to think of a solution where I could attach the windscreen through the holes in the stove but without burning my fingers. \[sta\_anchor id=”instructions” /\] ### DIY Windscreen Instructions: ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/windscreen-final-test.jpg "windscreen final test - Mom Goes Camping") Here are the instructions for the windscreen which I ended up using.  While I haven’t tested how much time/fuel it saves me in windy conditions, it definitely does a good job of blocking wind and making my cook system more efficient. The idea to use wires through the existing holes in the stove came from [here](https://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=16231&c=516). 1. **Flatten the edges of the pie tin as best as you can.** 2. **Cut a small slice out of the pie tin.** You need to do this so you can bend the pie tin into shape. My cook pot is fairly wide (6 inches across), so I only removed a small slice out of the tin. Start with a small slice and remove more if necessary. 3. **Carefully push the pie tin into your cook pot.** This is done so the windscreen will nest in your pot. There will be some crinkling and overlapping of metal on the bottom. This is ok. Just try to keep the upper edge of the pie tin as straight as possible.  You don’t want one side to be much higher than the other. 4. **Use wire or paper clips to hold the windscreen together.** It should be completely round now and fairly sturdy. 5. **Cut a hole in the middle.** The hole should be shaped so your stove can fit through it (while the stove is folded). Try to keep the hole as small as possible. 6. **Put the windscreen on the stove.** It will flop over a bit. The next step will fix this problem. 7. **Use sturdy wire to attach the windscreen to the stove.** I wasn’t too precise about this. I just poked the wire through one side of the windscreen, through holes in two “arms” of the stove, and out the other side of the windscreen.  Do this three times.  Now your windscreen should be sitting in position. **Optional: Add air holes** It seems counterintuitive to add air holes to a wind screen.  However, if enough air doesn’t get to the stove, then the flame will go out.  Even if the flame doesn’t go completely out, it might not be burning efficiently. That’s why the store-bought windscreens have holes in them. How do you know if you need air holes? The stove flame should always be BLUE and not orange.  Orange flame is a sign that the stove isn’t burning efficiently and is producing carbon monoxide.  It [can be deadly](https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2013/08/25/214925124/the-same-tents-that-seal-storms-out-can-seal-carbon-monoxide-in)! With my windscreen, I didn’t add any air holes.  Enough air was already getting through from the bottom hole and the gap between the windscreen and pot.  If your windscreen is taller and goes all the way up around the pot, you may need air holes.  Just check to see if the flame is orange and if it’s staying lit. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/making-windscreen-shaping.jpg "making windscreen shaping - Mom Goes Camping")*Squishing the pie tin into my pot so it nests nicely*![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/windscreen-cutting-hole.jpg "windscreen cutting hole - Mom Goes Camping")*Cutting a hole for the stove to go through in the middle*![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/windscreen-putting-wires-through.jpg "windscreen putting wires through - Mom Goes Camping")*Inserting wires to hold the windscreen in place*![homemade windscreen](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/final-windscreen.jpg "final windscreen - Mom Goes Camping")*Testing the windscreen on a windy day*![DIY ultralight windscreen finished](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/final-windscreen-on-scale.jpg "final windscreen on scale - Mom Goes Camping")Total weight was just 16g 056oz ### **Important:** This DIY windscreen worked really well for me.  However, you should **always test gear before taking it on a trip**!  After making your windscreen, take it outside (don’t use it inside; CO poisoning is a serious risk!) on a windy day.  You could even set up a fan to see how it holds up against serious wind.  I also stuck the windscreen directly into the flame for a minute to make sure the material wouldn’t melt or catch fire. If you don’t feel like making your own windscreen, you can [get the clip-on windscreen by Optimus here](https://amzn.to/3VbtGwM). It works on any standard screw-on gas canister–but you must have a narrow pot. Wide pots won’t fit inside it! ## Canister Stove Windscreen FAQ: #### Can you use a windscreen with a canister stove? Yes, but not a wrap-around windscreen, those trap heat around the canister and can cause it to overheat and potentially explode. The safe design keeps the windscreen around the burner only, not the canister, and reflects heat upward toward the pot rather than downward toward the fuel. Several manufacturers including Optimus make clip-on windscreens specifically designed for this. A DIY version made from a disposable pie tin works on the same principle and weighs under 20 grams. #### How much fuel does a windscreen save on a canister stove? Significantly more than most people expect. Independent tests have found that even a light breeze can cause a canister stove to use 3–5 times more fuel than in calm conditions. A windscreen that blocks wind effectively can reduce fuel consumption by 50–80% in windy conditions. On a multi-day backpacking trip where you’re already calculating fuel consumption carefully, a windscreen that weighs 16 grams and saves you from carrying an extra fuel canister is one of the best weight-to-benefit trades you can make. **Have you made your own windscreen for a canister stove? Let us know in the comments if you have any tips or ideas!** --- Image credit: “[Alcohol Stove with Windscreen](https://www.flickr.com/photos/stusic/369086456/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [stusic](https://www.flickr.com/people/stusic/) **Pin this if you like it!** ![DIY ultralight windscreen for canister stove](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/diy-windscreen-pinterest-1.jpg "diy windscreen pinterest - Mom Goes Camping") ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** cooking, stoves, ultralight, windscreen --- ### [Camping and Backpacking in Rugova Gorge, Kosovo (Peja)](https://momgoescamping.com/rugova-gorge/) **Published:** September 25, 2017 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Kosovo is most known for the war in the 1990s and its disputed country status.  What gets lost behind the politics is that Kosovo has some amazing nature.  Combine this with the local hospitality and open laws for wild camping, and you’ve got one of the best places to enjoy untouched wilderness. ## What Is Rugova Gorge? ![Rugova gorge map](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Kuqishtë-Google-Maps.jpg "Kuqishtë Google Maps - Mom Goes Camping") Located at the most western part of Kosovo, Rugova is a 25km long valley and gorge made by the Lumbardhi river. The road through Rugova starts at Peja (*Peć* in Serbian) and goes up to the village Kućište.  Along the way, there are waterfalls, granite cliffs up 600+ meters high, and plenty of scenic views.  The road ends near the border of Montenegro.  You’ll either have to hike out or drive out the same way you came. Get off the main road and you will find plenty of hiking trails.  The area is a paradise for climbers.  You’ll just need to bring your own gear or organize a climb with a guide. **Things to Do in Rugova** - Hiking - Camping - Climbing - Zip lining on the 650 meter long zip line - Eating insanely good local food - Village tourism - Visiting caves and waterfalls ### Wildlife in Rugova The [flora of Rugova](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugova_(region)#Flora) is divided into four zones: Oak, beech, coniferous, and alpine. I spent my trips surrounded by black spruce.  In August, there are tons of wild strawberries and blueberries to be found. ![Rugova flora](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/IMG_1805.jpg "IMG_1805 - Mom Goes Camping") ![Rugova wild berries](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/IMG_6938.jpg "IMG_6938 - Mom Goes Camping") Near the restaurants and on the popular trails, you probably won’t see much wildlife other than a few squirrels, lizards, or salamanders.  However, the mountains around Rugova are rich with wildlife. ![butterfly in Rugova Gorge](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/IMG_6858.jpg "IMG_6858 - Mom Goes Camping") Go deeper into the woods and you’ll find: - Bears - Wolves - Wild boars - Snakes - Foxes You’ll need to practice animal safety while in Rugova. Always [hang a bear bag](https://momgoescamping.com/hang-food-bag/) (even if you aren’t deep enough into the wilderness to meet a bear, still hang a bear bag against other critters). ![Bears do sometimes come to visit the restaurants! :o](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/bear-rugova.jpg "bear rugova - Mom Goes Camping")Bears do sometimes come to visit the restaurants 😮 Snakes are also abundant in the rocky areas of Rugova.  I personally saw two snakes swimming in Leqinat Lake.  Neither was a [horned viper](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vipera_ammodytes) or [adder](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vipera_berus) – the two venomous snakes found in the Balkans, so I wasn’t too worried.  Still, make sure you know [what to do if you get bit by a snake](https://momgoescamping.com/snake-bite-first-aid/) before visiting Rugova. ### Dangers in Rugova As with any canyon, you need to be careful of landslides while in Rugova.  Don’t do anything stupid like set up camp underneath a cliff where a falling rock could crush you! I personally haven’t been in Rugova in winter, but can imagine how difficult it gets.  A lot of the businesses in the gorge close simply because they are inaccessible.  Avalanches can occur and ice makes the roads slippery. ### Road Conditions of Rugova ![Rugova roads](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/rugova-roads.jpg "rugova roads - Mom Goes Camping") Considering that Kosovo is not a very developed country, the road conditions of Rugova Gorge are actually quite good.  The main road is asphalted and even secondary roads are in decent condition. Bear in mind that the road up Rugova is very narrow. There are plenty of hairpin turns and you might find fallen boulders in the road.  It’s risky enough to be listed on [Dangerous Roads](http://www.dangerousroads.org/eastern-europe/kosovo/128-rugova-gorge-road-kosovo.html). Just drive slow – even if the locals around you aren’t. ### How to Get to Rugova Rugova is 93km from Pristina. Its best accessed through the city of Peja though (Pec in Serbian). While the city Peja itself isn’t too impressive, it is a nice place to spend a few lazy days before heading into the mountains. **Bus Routes to Peja:** - **Pristina-Peja:** Leave several times per day - **Belgrade-Peja:** There is a bus that leaves from Belgrade. This is the one I took.  However, at the station in Peja, they said that there wasn’t a bus to Belgrade.  I went home via Rozaje, Montenegro instead. - **Rozaje/Kolasin-Peja:** You can take a bus to/from Montenegro. There are great mountains for camping there too.  Or, you can catch the train in Kolasin to Belgrade. **Minibus to Rugova:** There is a minibus that goes into Rugova twice daily.  When I was there, the bus left for Rugova at 7am and 3pm to the village Boge (return bus trip 90 minutes later).  Schedules change though. Check with Peja Tourism for the latest bus schedule! Know that the minibus doesn’t go from the main bus station.  Rather you must wait for the minibus in front of a bakery located across from the main bus station on the corner. **Other Transportation Options** - **Rent a Car:** If budget isn’t an issue, I’d recommend doing this so you can really explore some of the hidden places and get to more trails. - **Hitchhiking:** The second time I went to Rugova, I skipped the 7am bus and just hitchhiked up the gorge. Both times we hitched down. There aren’t too many cars passing by, but it didn’t take long to get a ride. ## Trail Map of Rugova Gorge The contour map of Rugova Gorge is well-made and accurate.  However, there were some missing trails from the map.  Maybe the locals want to keep those ones secret 😉  A few camping spots are marked on the map. Popular hiking trails are in red. ![Rugova trail map](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/rugova-trail-map.jpg "rugova trail map - Mom Goes Camping") **You can [download a full-res version of the map here](https://mapcarta.com/Rugova_Mountains).** ## Camping in Rugova ![camping in Rugova](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/IMG_6905.jpg "IMG_6905 - Mom Goes Camping") On the Rugova map, there are a few official camping spots marked.  I have only been to the camping spot at Leqinat Lake, so I can’t vouch for the other spots. You can certainly ask to camp in front of any of the restaurants or cabins in Rugova too.  Kosovars are known for their hospitality and will likely let you stay for free (maybe even use their bathrooms too!). **DO NOT CAMP IN THE GORGE!** While there are a few flat spots along the river, camping there would be very DANGEROUS.  At any moment, a rock could fall down the cliff and kill you.  Don’t do it! If you are very adventurous, you can use the contour lines to scout out flat spots on the map and camp there.  Otherwise, it is fairly difficult to find a flat and safe spot to camp within a gorge.  You’ve got to go up towards the peaks.                                                              **Heading out soon?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup — print them before you go. **[                                                                Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** ### Lake Leqinat ![lake leqinat rugova](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/rugova-gorge.jpg "rugova gorge - Mom Goes Camping") This is my favorite place for camping in the Balkans.   It is located above the village Kuqishtë.  You drive about 8km up the secondary road to the parking spot near the restaurants.  From there, you have a 2.5km hike to the lake. The hike up isn’t very long, but it is STEEP (made worse when you are carrying 18kg of gear for you and your kid).  The view of the lake as you go over the final incline makes the grueling hike worth it. My daughter was able to handle the hike at age 4 though, so I’m guessing you can too. 😉 The lake itself is deep enough for swimming.  Just be warned that there are leeches in the water.  So long as you swim fast, the leeches don’t have time to latch onto you. ![leaches in lake](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/IMG_6864.jpg "IMG_6864 - Mom Goes Camping")![salamander in Rugova](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/IMG_6889.jpg "IMG_6889 - Mom Goes Camping") There are also lots of salamanders in the lake.  Isabel could spend all day catching them. There are plenty of people coming through for day hikes, so you will have company during the day.  However, not too many people camp there.  You’ll likely be by yourself, especially on weekdays. You’ll need a [good water filter](https://momgoescamping.com/sawyer-mini-water-filter-review/) for camping at Lake Leqinat though.  The nearest water source is at the base of the trail 2.5km away – and remember it is steep.  Since the water is full of algae, it will clog your filter very fast.  I brought my Sawyer Mini the first time I went to Leqinat.  For the next trip, I took my Sawyer Squeeze because it has a faster flow rate. **Getting to Leqinat Lake:** Get out of the bus at Kuqishtë.  From there, you will have to walk 8km or hitchhike a ride up the secondary road.  We hitchhiked. Or just drive up there.  You can also organize tour guides to take you to the lake. One traveler I talked to paid 20euros just for a ride up. The start of the trail is behind the [restaurant Te Liqeni](https://www.google.rs/maps/place/Te+Liqeni/@42.682098,20.0787382,15z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0xab0893849824d60b!8m2!3d42.6825419!4d20.0843221?hl=en), which rents out cabins.  Fill up your water bottles before leaving!  You’ll need at least 1 liter of water per person for the hike up. ![Restaurant Te Liqeni](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/restaurant-te-liqeni-1.jpg "restaurant te liqeni - Mom Goes Camping")Restaurant Te Liqeni![near the start of leqinat lake trail](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/IMG_6988.jpg "IMG_6988 - Mom Goes Camping")Cows near the trailhead for Leqinat The trail is only about 2.5km to the summit.  However, it is steep and very rocky.  Wear good boots and grab yourself a walking stick along the way. Once you reach the lake, the best camping spots are towards the left (east). Follow the trail around the lake until it branches into two.  Take the small trail going upwards. ## Rugova Trails Surprisingly, the Peja tourism bureau has a great trail map of Rugova.  There are plenty of short hikes that you can take. For hardcore trekkers, you can hike a 192km loop known as the Peaks of the Balkans.  The trail takes you through Albania and Montenegro.  You get a special pass for crossing the border via the mountains. ## Know Before You Go - **Toilets:** There aren’t any outhouses on the trails. You’ll need to practice leave no trace and dig a cat hole. - **Water:** There are several water springs. However, they can dry out in summer.  Best to have a water filter so you can drink water from streams on the go. - **Trash:** Unfortunately, Kosovars don’t have a culture of respecting nature. A lot of day hikers leave their trash around. It’s not as bad as some places in Kosovo, but still fairly depressing.  Go further onto the harder trails to avoid trash. - **Wild Camping:** If there are any [laws about wild camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wild-camping-laws-europe/) in Kosovo, no one is heeding them. You can camp anywhere you want (always check with owners before camping on private property though).  The locals might be confused as to *why* you want to camp though and invite you inside to stay. 🙂 - **Getting Scammed:** Kosovars are serious about hospitality and people will kindly help you with whatever you need. But, since they often don’t have receipts and price lists like in Western countries, expect taxi drivers and hotel owners to charge you more as a foreigner.  Now is the time to practice your haggling! ## Where to Stay in Peja ![alpike ranch Peja](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/IMG_6713.jpg "IMG_6713 - Mom Goes Camping") My bus from Belgrade arrived at 5am.  There was no way I was going on a hike with 18kg of gear that early!  So, we camped at a ranch located a few kilometers outside of the city center. [Shtepia Alpine Ranch](https://www.facebook.com/Shtepia-Alpike-RANCH-182371845146688/?rf=153298961410460) is located above the big Peja city park.  It has an amazing view of the city, and the food is delicious.  It’s actually (according to the owner) the only restaurant in the area with an organic certification.  All the dairy comes from the owner’s goats. You can also go horseback riding at the ranch.  As of 2016, there’s also an “Adventure Park” with an obstacle course, giant swing, and zip lining. The owner of the place is an amazing guy.  He speaks Albanian, Serbian, and English.  For 5 euros per person/per night, you can put up your tent in the yard.  There are clean bathrooms, Wifi, water spigots outdoors, and electrical plugs you can use. The only downside of camping at the ranch is that the horses will wake you up early in the morning when they come to get water. **Shtepia Ranch Prices (as of 2017 be sure to contact them directly for 2026 rates):** - **Camping in the yard:** 5 euros per person - **Horseback riding:** 20 euros - **Obstacle Course:** I think it was 5e for kids and 10 or 15e for adults - **Taxi to/from Peja:** 4-5 euros - **Meals:** 4-10 euros for a full meal You can also stay in a hostel or hotel in Peja.  But the ranch really is a much better place for relaxing and eating amazing food. ## Rugova Gorge FAQ #### Is Kosovo safe for camping and backpacking? Yes — Kosovo is one of the safest and most welcoming countries in the Balkans for independent travelers. The local hospitality is genuine and widely noted by travelers. The main practical considerations are not safety-related: roads can be rough, bus schedules are unreliable, and trail infrastructure is less developed than in Western Europe. Wild camping is widely tolerated and locals are generally friendly about it, though they may be puzzled by why you’d choose to sleep in a tent when they’d happily invite you inside. #### What is the best time of year to visit Rugova Gorge? June through September is the best window. July and August bring wild strawberries and blueberries on the trails and warm enough temperatures for swimming in Lake Leqinat. June and September are quieter with cooler temperatures, ideal for hiking. Avoid winter entirely: many businesses close, the road becomes dangerous with ice and snow, and avalanche risk is real above the gorge. **Have you been to Rugova? Share your tips with us in the comments!** --- Image credit: https://sq.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeda:Rugova\_Canyon.jpg ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Backpacking **Tags:** Balkans, camping spots, Europe, Kosovo --- ### [Best Camping Pajamas for Kids](https://momgoescamping.com/best-camping-pajamas-for-kids/) **Published:** June 9, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** The key to a successful camping trip with kids is a good sleep setup.  In addition to a properly-rated sleeping bag and pad, you’ll need the right camping pajamas for your kids.  Here’s what you need to know to find the best camping PJs for your little ones as well as my top picks. **Also See:** - **[Best Sleeping Bags for Babies](https://momgoescamping.com/best-baby-sleeping-bags-camping/)** - **[Best Sleeping Bags for Toddlers](https://momgoescamping.com/best-toddler-sleeping-bags-camping/)** - **[Camping with Kids Checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-checklist-family/)** ## Best Camping Pajamas for Kids These kids pajamas are all suitable for camping and everyday use. I’ve included pajamas for infants, toddlers, and bigger kids too.  See the info for temperature and sizing info. **Note:** - **Cold weather** = early spring, late fall, or cold summer nights at higher elevations - **Moderate weather** = late spring/early fall or summer nights which might dip down to lower temperatures - **Warm weather** = summer camping at lower elevations ### 1. BabyDeeDee Fleece Bear Bunting Bag ![babydeedee fleece pajamas for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/babydeedee-fleece-pajamas-for-camping.jpg "babydeedee fleece pajamas for camping - Mom Goes Camping") **Available Sizes:** 3-6m, 6-12m, 12-18m, 18-24m **Material:** Fleece **Good For:** Cold weather Leg zipper for diaper changes Hand cover cuffs Price: $ – [Check Here](https://amzn.to/3PJ2X6Q)** I have the [camping sleeping bag by BabyDeeDee](https://momgoescamping.com/babydeedee-sleep-nest-travel/) and really like how practical it is.  They recently added this fleece suit to their product line and it is perfect for camping.  It’s actually meant to be a bunting bag but could work as PJs for camping in cold weather if worn over a lightweight base layer. There are some nice features to these pajamas which make them particularly good for camping.  The material is very soft and warm.  The hood is also good for toddlers; they have a tendency to roll off their pillow and my girl refuses to wear a hat.The diagonal zip makes it easier to get your little on in/out of the sleeping bag.  There’s an addition zipper around the leg area for easy diaper changes.  The cuffs on the sleeve fold to become mittens to keep your child’s hands warm. It’s definitely a good sleep suit for camping in colder weather. Baby DeeDee also has a bunch of other great PJs for babies and little kids, including these  “cuddly” pajamas (below) which are made out of a soft synthetic material.  These ones have all the same features as the Bear suit but are footed.  The material is thinner than the fleece for the Bear suit, so is good for moderate-to-cold weather camping.![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/cuddly-baby-dee-dee-pajamas-for-camping.jpg "cuddly baby dee dee pajamas for camping - Mom Goes Camping") [**Get the PJs Here**](https://amzn.to/3PJ2X6Q) --- ### 2. Simple Joys by Carter’s Simple Joy Fleece Pajamas ![simple joys fleece pajamas by carters for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/simple-joys-fleece-pajamas-by-carters-for-camping.jpg "simple joys fleece pajamas by carters for camping - Mom Goes Camping") **Available Sizes:** Infant up to 8 years **Material:** Fleece **Good For:** Moderate-to-cold weather **Price: $ – [Check Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=bf9f24fcc867cb2c9e05234e807ee174&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=apparel&keywords=Simple%20Joys%20by%20Carter's%20fleece%20pajamas)![](//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&l=ur2&o=1)** Carters makes a lot of different types of fleece pajamas for babies, toddlers, and little kids.  There are tons of super-cute designs for both boys and girls. The fleece used in these pajamas is a bit thin.  This means they are better suited for camping in moderate weather.  If you have a warm sleeping bag and pad for your kid though, the jammies would also be good for cold weather too. Some of the pajamas come in sets of 3 at ridiculously affordable prices.  So, it’s not surprising that the quality of the fleece isn’t as good and soft as with more expensive brands.  The zipper sometimes sits weird but there is a little flap of fabric lining the zipper so it won’t rub on your child’s skin. **[Get Them Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=2f38e1fd9dbc4ab1adc8f66e23b8f466&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=apparel&keywords=simple%20joys%20by%20carter's%20fleece%20pajamas)**![](//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&l=ur2&o=1) --- ### 3. KicKee Bamboo Pajama Sets ![kickee bamboo pajamas for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/kickee-bamboo-pajamas.jpg "kickee bamboo pajamas - Mom Goes Camping") **Available Sizes:** 2-14 years **Material:** 95% bamboo vicose **Good For:** Warm-to-moderate weather **SPF 50+ Tag-free Dozens of cute designs for girls and boys Price: $ – [Check Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=3f3c84c34e7c15bff68fc188c2087372&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=apparel&keywords=KicKee%20Bamboo%20two%20piece%20pajama%20set)![](//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&l=ur2&o=1)** KicKee is one of the few brands which makes bamboo pajamas for camping.  Bamboo is one of the world’s most renewable resources, so it is a good eco-friendly fabric. The bamboo fabric in these jammies is also incredibly breathable and lightweight.  It’s good if you’ve got a little kid who frequently gets sweaty. The pajamas come in dozens of different designs.  Actually, it’s kind of annoying to choose a set because there are so many options!  KicKee also makes some other kids camping pajamas, including footed jammies for infants and quilted pajamas for colder weather.  They are affordable and versatile enough for everyday use too. Note that these pajamas are not treated with flame retardant.  Laws state that all pajamas not treated must be tight-fitting.  If you want a looser pajama, then order a size up of these. **[Get Them Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=cb1d6a23462d54715a85504bc6203e92&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=apparel&keywords=KicKee%20Bamboo%20two%20piece%20pajama%20set)![](//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&l=ur2&o=1)** --- ### 4. Simply Merino Organic Pajamas ### [![wool toddler pajamas for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/simply-merino.jpg "simply merino - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/simply-merino.jpg) **Available Sizes:** 2-6 years **Material:** 100% organic Merino wool **Good For:** Moderate and cold weather **Machine washable Colors:** Baby blue, pink, boysenberry, white, moss green, navy blue **Price: $$$ – [Check here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08H3GTNXC/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08H3GTNXC&linkId=34c23a31dbc2904b6b313fef4d239353)** Simply Merino is one of the best-known brands making Merino wool clothing.  Their wool is ultra soft and not itchy like a lot of other brands.  It’s hypoallergenic and won’t irritate your kid’s skin. The quality means that these pajamas are not cheap.  However, they also work as a base layer so you can get a lot of use out of them.  They are also durable enough to last through multiple seasons or to be passed down to younger children. It’s just too bad they don’t make some cute designs.  Right now they only have solid colors. [**Get Them Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08H3GTNXC/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08H3GTNXC&linkId=34c23a31dbc2904b6b313fef4d239353) --- >                                                      **Heading out soon?** > > My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup — print them before you go. > > **[                                                       Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** ### 5. Rene Rofe Polar Fleece Girls 3-Piece Pajama Set [![Rene Rofe Girls Cozy Polar Fleece Pajama Pant Set (3-Piece) (Aqua Caticorn, X-Large - 14/16)](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41IiBUyAnzL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08YH2ZDJ8?tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) **Available Sizes:** 4-16 years **Material:** Polar fleece **Good For:** Cold weather **5 cute designs Price: $ – [Check here](https://amzn.to/2YfwieF)** My older daughter (10 years old) loves these cute pajamas.  I love that they are really warm and that she doesn’t complain about wearing the socks because she actually likes them.  The socks aren’t the best quality but the actual pajamas are nice and thick.  They should hold up well enough to be passed down to my younger daughter.  Considering that these pajamas are very cheap, it’s hard to find fault with them.   They also make some other pajamas for girls but don’t currently have any fleece jammies for boys. [**Get Them Here**](https://amzn.to/2YfwieF) --- ### 6. Burt’s Bees Organic Cotton Pajamas ![burts bees organic cotton pajamas](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/burts-bees-organic-cotton-pajamas.jpg "burts bees organic cotton pajamas - Mom Goes Camping") **Available Sizes:** Newborn to 2 years **Material:** Organic cotton **Good For:** Warm weather **Two-piece and footed one-piece options Over 30 cute designs for boys and girls Price: $ – [Check Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=9ef1520b2b1aa3502c2f6c24caeb766b&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=apparel&keywords=Burt's%20Bees%20Organic%20Cotton%20Pajamas)![](//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&l=ur2&o=1)** My sister got a pair of these pajamas for my daughter when she was a baby. I was surprised how much I liked them.  They didn’t make my daughter sweat like other pajamas, probably because of the loose weave and soft quality cotton. The one-piece version is available in newborn sizes up to 2 years. The smallest sizes have arm cuffs which can fold over to become mittens (or to keep your baby from scratching her face). The zipper is lined and has a protective button tab on top. The zipper is full-length but there isn’t an extra zipper around the legs for diaper changes. The fabric is very soft and will last through multiple washes.  It did get stretched out over time though.  That actually ended up being a plus sine my daughter was still able to wear the 12 month size at 18 months, though it looked funny. I’m actually surprised that these pajamas are so cheap.  Do bear in mind that it is cotton which means it will absorb sweat and take forever to dry.  So, you will need a backup pair for camping. **Get the [one-piece version here](https://amzn.to/2BSNsY5) and [two-piece version here](https://amzn.to/2XMf8X5)** --- ## Pajamas Material for Camping You want your kid’s camping pajamas to be soft, comfortable, and warm.  Most importantly, you want the pajama material to be *breathable.* Otherwise, your little one can end up sweating too much and get all wet which in turn means cold.  Here are the best material options for camping PJs. ### Merino Wool Merino wool is by far the best material for all types of camping clothes.  It is a great insulator but still breathable and wicking, so you can wear the same item in multiple temperatures.   It naturally resists getting wet but, once drenched, will take a long time to dry. While you should hand-wash Merino (even when it says machine washable), the material is naturally antibacterial so you don’t need to wash it very frequently. **Pros:** - Very warm - Breathable - Wicking - Still warm even if wet **Cons:** - Pricy - Can take a while to dry - Should be hand-washed ### Fleece Fleece is a great budget-friendly option for PJs.  It is very warm and soft while still being breathable and it dries fairly quickly.  Note that fleece is made from a type of polyester, which is why some fleece PJs will say they are made from polyester. **Pros:** - **Very warm** - **Soft and comfy** - **Dries quickly** - **Affordable** - **Easy maintenance** **Cons:** - **Absorbs liquids** - **Thicker fleece isn’t very breathable** ### Cotton Cotton is a ubiquitous material and you’ll be able to find tons of kids jammies made from it.  The downside is that cotton really isn’t best for outdoor activities like camping.  It insulates poorly, absorbs water like a sponge, takes forever to dry out, and isn’t breathable or wicking. You can still use cotton pajamas for camping in warm weather.  Just make sure you bring a backup pair for your child in case the main pair gets wet. **Pros:** - **Cheap** - **Lots of styles available** - **Comfortable and soft** **Cons:** - **Not wicking** - **Poor breathability** - **Only for warm temperatures** - **Absorbs water and takes forever to dry** ### Bamboo Bamboo is a fairly new fabric choice and there aren’t that many options for kid’s pajamas.  However, it is great material.  Compared to cotton, it is better at wicking and dries faster.  It is also softer and more durable. Some brands also use bamboo which is made in an environmentally-friendly way.   It’s still not as good as Merino wool, but is much more affordable. **Pros:** - **Soft and comfortable** - **Decent wicking** - **Good breathability** **Cons:** - **Takes a long time to dry** - **Quality varies depending on brand** ### Silk I have yet to find any pure silk pajamas for children (which don’t cost a fortune).  However, pajamas with some silk in them are very breathable and comfy. **Pros:** - **Great breathability** - **Very soft** **Cons:** - **Not very durable** - **Hand-washing** - **Expensive** ## What if it gets cold? Yes, you are right to worry whether your child will get cold while camping.  In some areas, the temperature can drop drastically and unexpectedly.  See my post on [**How Cold Is Too Cold for Tent Camping** ](https://momgoescamping.com/how-cold-is-too-cold-for-tent-camping/)for the low-down on this and how to properly calculate nighttime temperatures. If it does get cold at night, then use these tips: ### Never Wear Daytime Clothes As Pajamas Even if they seem dry, your daytime clothes will be slightly damp from sweat and moisture.  This will cause evaporative cooling, which means you can get pretty cold at night.  Always make sure you have clean, dry pajamas to wear at night.  My one exception is that I’ll sometimes wear my daytime fleece at night (see below). ### Keep a Fleece Jacket Nearby I keep our fleece or puffy jackets in the corner of the tent.  If it gets really cold, then I can easily find them to put them on.  If your children are old enough to dress themselves, then keep the jacket near their sleeping bag in case it gets cold at night. ### Bring Wool Sleeping Socks Absolutely bring warm wool socks specifically for sleeping in.  You don’t want to wear your daytime socks to bed because they will be sweaty (and thus cold) and gross.  Even if you don’t want to spend on Merino pajamas, do invest in some wool socks like [these infant socks from Woolino](https://amzn.to/3dZelY8) or [these cheaper socks which are 45% wool](https://amzn.to/2XKMq8M). ### Also Bring a Beanie A lot of warmth is lost through the head.  Bringing a beanie can do wonders for helping you stay warm at night while camping in the cold.  If your child won’t wear a hat, then choose pajamas or a sleeping bag which has a hood. ### Consider a Vest or Core Layer The core needs more insulation than the extremities (arms and legs).  If it really is cold, then put an extra layer around the core.  This can be a short-sleeve base layer under the pajamas or a fleece vest on top of them. ### Check Your Sleeping Pad Rating A lot of people severely underestimate the importance of a good sleeping pad for camping.  The sleeping pad is what provides insulation from the ground and prevents conductive heat loss.   Even if you have a very warm sleeping bag, you can still end up cold without a good pad! Instead of buying an expensive new sleeping bag or wearing multiple layers of jammies to bed, consider getting a better pad.  A good pad doesn’t have to be expensive and it can be used in multiple conditions.  My daughters use the short-sized [Therm-A-Rest Scout Pad](https://amzn.to/2APDc2e) which has an R-value of 3.1 and is lightweight at 14oz. ## One or Two Piece Pajamas? One piece pajamas are definitely warmer than two-piece because there are fewer places for heat to escape.  Likewise, your little one can’t pull up the shirt on a one-piece pajama (my younger likes to play with her belly button at night, exposing her tummy to cold air). Despite these benefits, I would still opt for a two-piece suit for older toddlers and children.  It’s a lot easier to go to the bathroom with a two-piece.  If an accident occurs at night, you can just remove the wet bottoms instead of having to remove the entire pajamas.  Ultimately, it’s a matter of personal choice though. ## Kids Pajamas Tips for Camping - **Keep pajamas inside the sleeping bag:** This makes it easier to find them at bedtime. I also keep any stuffed animals inside the sleeping bag too. - **Change your kids into pajamas *before* they get tired:** I’ve had my daughter fall asleep in front of the campfire many times. Now I make sure she is in her jammies before we gather around the fire. - **Plan for accidents and leaky diapers:** For younger kids, put a waterproof liner inside the sleeping bag to catch any diaper explosions. For older kids, have a spare towel nearby which can be used to line a wet sleeping bag until morning. - **Bring backups:** If car camping, then go ahead and bring an extra pair of pajamas in case the main ones get wet or dirty. ### Don’t Overdress Your Child! The most important tip I can give you is this: *avoid the urge to overdress your child at night.*  I am guilty of this.  I would worry that my baby was too cold so I’d put extra layers of pajamas on her.  She’d then overheat and get drenched in sweat.  *Wet = evaporation = cold*, so then I was really worried that she was cold!  On one camping trip, I ended up awake for most of the night because I didn’t have spare dry pajamas to put her in.  She woke up every 30 minutes out of discomfort. The lesson? Avoid overheating and sweat it the first place by not overdressing your child. ## Kids Camping Pajamas FAQ: #### What should kids wear to sleep in a tent? The best camping pajamas for kids are made from merino wool or fleece not cotton. Cotton absorbs sweat and takes a long time to dry, which means a sweaty child ends up cold. A clean, dry merino or fleece base layer works as both pajamas and a sleeping layer. Dress kids in one layer less than you think they need the sleeping bag provides the main insulation and add a warm hat if the temperature drops unexpectedly. #### Should kids wear one-piece or two-piece pajamas for camping? One-piece pajamas are warmer because there’s no gap at the waist for heat to escape. For babies and young toddlers in diapers, one-piece with a leg zipper is the most practical & easy for nighttime changes without fully undressing the child. For older toddlers and kids, two-piece is easier for bathroom trips at night, which is a real consideration when camping. Either works well as long as the material is right, the material matters more than the style. --- Image credit: “[She may be a morning person…](https://www.flickr.com/photos/jenpilot/4576667559/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [jenpilot](https://www.flickr.com/people/jenpilot/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids --- ### [How Cold Is Too Cold for Tent Camping?](https://momgoescamping.com/how-cold-is-too-cold-for-tent-camping/) **Published:** June 14, 2018 **Author:** Diane **Content:** There are people who go winter camping in the snow.  People like climate researchers have been known to camp in the Antarctic.  For these extreme adventurers, it is never too cold to go camping… But what about the rest of us- How cold is too cold to go tent camping? And what about if you don’t have good gear? The quick answer is this: **Nighttime temperatures in the high 30s/low 40s Fahrenheit are too cold for tent camping for inexperienced campers with cheap gear.  Nighttime temperatures of about 50*°*F to 65*°*F are most comfortable for tent camping.** This doesn’t mean you shouldn’t go camping in cold weather though! However, you do need to be prepared.  This guide will go over everything you need to know, including gear requirements, how to stay dry, how to calculate nighttime temperatures, and other tips. **Contents:** - [What Gear Do You Need to Camp in the Cold?](#gear) - [The Importance of Staying DRY when Camping in the Cold](#rain) - [How Cold Will It Get Camping? (How to Calculate Temperatures)](#howcold) - [Camping in 20, 30 and 40 Degree Temperatures](#20s30s40s) - [Tips for Camping in Cold Weather](#tips) \[sta\_anchor id=”#gear” /\] ## What Gear Do  You Need to Camp in the Cold? If you want to go camping in cold weather, you will need the right gear.  This includes: 1. Suitable tent 2. Warm sleeping bag 3. High R-value sleeping pad 4. Clothing which won’t make you sweat ### 1. Tents for Cold Weather Tents don’t actually trap that much heat.  What they do is block wind and snow (which *is* important for warmth). However, **your tent choice matters because of condensation.**  When the weather gets cold, condensation can build up inside the tent, accumulate on the roof and start dripping on your head. This means you might get wet, and thus cold. Single wall tents are particularly bad in terms of condensation.  For this reason, **use a double-wall tent when camping in cold weather.**  If you must use a single-wall tent, then leave the door a bit open (even if it seems counterintuitive) so condensation doesn’t build up. **Also read:** - **[How to Prevent Tent Condensation](https://momgoescamping.com/tent-condensation/)** - [**Is It Warmer Inside a Tent?**](https://momgoescamping.com/is-it-warmer-inside-a-tent/) ### 2. Sleeping Bags for Cold Weather Camping Sleeping bag ratings are very misleading. The number you see listed is actually the *lower limit*.  Thus, a sleeping bag rated for 30 degrees F is *not* suitable for 30F weather. The bag will keep you alive at that temperature, but you probably won’t feel warm.  Instead, you need to make sure the *comfort rating* of the sleeping bag matches the temperature of where you will be camping. ![EN 13537 sleeping bag ratings](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/EN-13537-rating.jpg "EN 13537 rating - Mom Goes Camping") It can get colder than anticipated, especially in springtime or fall where the weather changes quickly.  To make sure you don’t end up cold at night, **choose a sleeping bag which has a comfort rating less than what you think the temperature will be.** For example: If you expect the nighttime temperature to be 50F, then choose a bag with a comfort rating of 30-40F. You’ll also need to factor in your individual comfort level.  I’m apparently a cold sleeper.  I’ve got a sleeping bag with a 25F comfort rating but still felt cold at 32F. #### Pro Tip: Use a Sleeping Bag Liner Sleeping bag liners are basically silk or nylon bags that you put inside your sleeping bag. **A sleeping bag liner can add over 10 degrees F to your sleeping bag rating.**  How much it will add will depend on your bags initial rating: The lower the sleeping bag rating, the more the liner will add to it. In addition to keeping you warm, liners are soft to sleep on and keep your sleeping bag clean. They are cheap to buy (at least cheaper than a new sleeping bag) and will give your sleeping bag a lot more range. Some travelers take to hostels to avoid bedbugs. [![Tough Outdoors Sleeping Bag Liner](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/tough-outdoors-sleeping-bag-liner.jpg "tough outdoors sleeping bag liner - Mom Goes Camping")](https://amzn.to/2EFxbnS)This sleeping bag liner by Tough Outdoors adds 5 10 degrees F to your sleeping bag It is a very affordable option You can [buy it here](https://amzn.to/2EFxbnS)[![Sea to Summit Thermolite Reactor Extreme](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/thermolite-reactor-extreme.jpg "thermolite reactor extreme - Mom Goes Camping")](https://amzn.to/2Z1VVOV)This sleeping bag liner is a bit heavier 14oz and pricier but adds up to 25F to your sleeping bag rating Buy it [here at REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dthermolite%2Bsleeping%2Bbag%2Bliner%26pagesize%3D90) or on [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003BIT004/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B003BIT004&linkId=01cc1a59940f7099f9e475f83ecc594a) **Also read:** - **[How to Sleep Warmer in Your Sleeping Bag (Regardless of Its Rating)](https://momgoescamping.com/warmer-sleeping-bag/)** - **[Can You Sleep in Two Sleeping Bags?](https://momgoescamping.com/combining-two-sleeping-bags/)** ### 3. Sleeping Pads If you don’t have a good sleeping pad, the ground will literally suck the heat out of your body (for us science nerds, this is referred to as *[conductive heat loss](https://www.e-education.psu.edu/egee102/node/2053)*). Even if you have a warm sleeping bag, you will still end up cold at night. Sleeping pads are rated in R-value, which refers how much the pad can *Resist* heat flow. The higher the R-value, the better the pad will insulate you from the ground. **As a general rule, you need an R-value of 2-3 for cold weather camping.** **Here are tips for getting the right sleeping pad:** - **Choose the highest R-value:** Sleeping pads are rated in R-value. Choose the highest R-value you *reasonably* can. If you are backpacking, you’ll be limited because high R-value pads are heavier.  But it is worth carrying a few more ounces to get extra comfort!!! - **R-value is accumulative:** High R-value sleeping pads can be very expensive. If you are on a limited budget, you can use one pad on top of another to make it warmer. For example, a pad with an R-value of 1 on a pad with an R-value of 2.5 will give an accumulative insulation of R-3.5. - **Do NOT use a pump-type air mattress:** Air mattresses might be comfortable, but they are heat sinks. The exception is if the air mattress is insulated, such as [these options](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dinsulated%26pagesize%3D90%26ir%3Dcategory%253Acamping-and-hiking%26origin%3Dweb%26r%3Dcategory%253Acamping-and-hiking%257Csleeping-pads-cots-and-hammocks%26version%3DSearch_2020_TimeDecay%253AtestB). The [Therm-a-Rest NeoAir Xlite](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dneoair%26pagesize%3D90) is one of the best backpacking sleeping pads.  It has an R-value of 3.2 and only weighs 12 ounces.  It’s a bit pricy though.  If you want something cheaper but nearly as good, check out these [affordable Therm-a-Rest alternatives](https://momgoescamping.com/thermarest-neoair-xlite-alternatives/). ![Thermarest NeoAir Xlite](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/neoair-xlite.jpg "neoair xlite - Mom Goes Camping")The Therm a Rest NeoAir Xlite is one of the best lightweight sleeping pads for 3 season weather but its pricy [Buy it here](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dneoair%26pagesize%3D90) ### 4. Clothing which Won’t Make You Sweat You probably know that you need to wear layers of clothes to stay warm when camping.  But layering doesn’t mean you should keep addings more layers when you get cold!  It is combining clothing in a smart way. **The three layers of clothing you need for cold weather camping are:** - **Base layer:** This must be a synthetic material or wool.  It’s job is to wick moisture away from your body so you don’t end up sweaty (and thus cold).  Never wear cotton base layers as they absorb moisture like a sponge. - **Mid layer:** This is your insulating layer.  It should be big and fluffy.  Fleece hoodies work well in mild weather.  In very cold weather, you will want a puffy jacket or thick wool sweater.   In *very* cold weather, you may want two mid layers. You’ll also need a mid layer on your legs, like fleece pants. - **Shell layer:** The shell layer is what protects you from rain. It also ensures that the heat from your mid layer doesn’t get blown away from wind. #### **Layering Applies to Pajamas Too!** You’ll need a clean, dry base layer to wear as  your pajamas.  The sleeping bag acts as the mid layer and the tent as your shell layer.  Don’t try to sleep in cotton pajamas as you can end up wet from sweat. **Read:** [Best Merino wool base layers](https://momgoescamping.com/merino-wool-base-layers-women/) [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/all-my-layers-for-cold-weather-camping-trip.jpg "all my layers for cold weather camping trip - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/all-my-layers-for-cold-weather-camping-trip.jpg)Check out all the layers I wore for a camping trip in rainy 40F daytime weather I was toasty warm 😀 \[sta\_anchor id=”rain” /\] ## The Importance of Staying Dry when Camping in the Cold One of the biggest challenges when camping in the cold weather is staying dry.  You can easily end up wet if it rains (which is likely in spring and fall).  As mentioned before, condensation is also a big problem when camping in cold weather.  If it forms in your tent, it can drip on your gear. **Getting wet can be VERY dangerous. When you get wet, the water will start evaporating off of your skin, causing your body temperature to decrease.  This is why **hypothermia can occur even in temperatures as high as 60 degrees F!** ([Source](https://survivaldispatch.com/freezing-to-death-in-60-degree-weather/)) ### To stay dry, you’ll need: - **A waterproof jacket *and* pants.**  It’s rather pointless to have a rain jacket if your pants just get wet! These are my top picks for [rain pants for women](https://momgoescamping.com/best-waterproof-womens-hiking-pants/) and [kids](https://momgoescamping.com/best-rain-suits-toddlers/)**.** - **Tarp shelter.** This is very useful because it gives you somewhere to hang out while it rains.  You can also keep gear there so it doesn’t get wet, or so you don’t have to bring wet gear into the tent (which will make condensation worse). For more info, read [27 Ways to Set Up a Tarp Shelter](https://momgoescamping.com/tarp-shelters/). **You’ll need some know-how.  Please read:** - **[Important Tips for Camping in the Rain](https://momgoescamping.com/what-to-do-when-it-rains-when-camping/)** - [**What to Wear for Camping in Cold, Rainy Weather**](https://momgoescamping.com/clothes-camping-rain-cold-mud/) - [**How to Pitch a Tent in the Rain so the Inside Doesn’t Get Wet**](https://momgoescamping.com/pitch-tent-in-rain-inside-doesnt-get-wet/) - [**27 Ways to Set Up a Tarp Shelter (with pictures)**](https://momgoescamping.com/tarp-shelters/) ![bad camping setup for rain](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/bad-idea-camping-tent-rain.jpg "bad idea camping tent rain - Mom Goes Camping")*This tent was set up incorrectly and became flooded in the rain These campers are going to be freezing their butts off* \[sta\_anchor id=”howcold” /\] ## How Cold Will It Get Camping? A big mistake that many amateur campers make is not forecasting temperatures properly.  Then, it ends up being a LOT colder than they anticipated, making for a miserable camping trip.  To prevent this, use these steps to accurately calculate temperatures. ### 1. Find the Forecast for the Nearest Weather Station When you check the forecast for a campground, you get the forecast for the nearest weather station.  Sometimes that weather station isn’t actually located near the campground!  This means the forecast can be wildly inaccurate. **To get a more accurate forecast, use:** - [Mountain-forecast.com](https://www.mountain-forecast.com/): It gives you live temperatures at different elevations of mountains. - [NOAA zone weather forecasts](https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lon=-110.54786682128905&lat=44.871556296673106#.XdcYO9Uo_IU): Just click on the map where you are going and it will give you a forecast for that specific area. ### **2. Adjust Forecast Based on Elevation** There is less air at higher elevation, which means that the air can’t trap as much heat.  Thus, **it is colder at higher elevations than at lower elevations.** This is important because your campground may be at a higher elevation than the nearest weather station. For example, most forecasts for the Smoky Mountains are based on Gatlinburg, TN which is only 1,200 feet in elevation.  The highest campground in the Smoky Mountains is at over 5,000 feet.  That’s a huge difference in elevation and thus a big temperature difference. #### To get an accurate forecast based on elevation: - **Get the forecast for the nearest weather station.** - **Find the elevation of the weather station *and* your campground.** - **Calculate the difference between the two elevations.** - **Adjust the temperature forecast.**  - **When there is no snow or rain, temperature decreases approximately 5.4**°F **for every 1000 feet in elevation** (9.8°C for every 1000 meters in elevation). - **If there is snow, rain, or you are in a cloud, temperature decreases approximately 3.3°F for every 1000 feet** (6°C for every 1000 meters). For example, look at the screenshot below.  It shows daytime temperatures of Yosemite’s Grizzly Peak in November. There is a 20F temperature difference between the high and low elevation areas of the peak. ![weather forecast yosemite by elevation](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/weather-forecast-yosemite-by-elevation.jpg "weather forecast yosemite by elevation - Mom Goes Camping") ### **3. Factor in Daytime vs. Nighttime Temperatures** At low elevations, the difference between highs/lows isn’t too much.  But, at high elevations, there can be a huge difference. It can be scorching hot during the day and freezing cold at night. For example, at Grant Village Campground (7,800 feet) in Yellowstone, summertime temperatures are usually in the 70s/80s but can drop to 30s/40s at night.  It’s even snowed on July 4th there! **Here are some temperature ranges to give you an idea of how much temperature can drop at night:** - **Rocky Mountains:** Summer temperatures in the high 90s during the day and 60s and 70s and night - **Yellowstone National Park:** Summer temperatures are in the 70s during the day and drop to below freezing at night in higher elevations. In spring and fall, temperatures are in the 30s to 60s during the day and drop to teens or single digits at night. - **Zion National Park:** During the spring and fall, temperatures are up to 90F. At night, the temperature can differ by over 30 degrees. - **Grand Canyon, South Rim:** Summer temperatures are usually in the 80s during the day and 40s/50s at night. - **Yosemite National Park:** In summer, daytime temperatures are in the high 80s and drop to the 50s at night. In fall, daytime temperatures are in the 50s to 70s and drop to the 30s/40s at night. ([source – nps)](https://www.nps.gov) ![cold weather camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/cold-weather-camping.jpg "cold weather camping - Mom Goes Camping")Airing my feet during an April camping trip at 3000ft 900m elevation It was warm during the day but dropped to below freezing at night ### 4. Plan for Sudden Weather Changes Weather in fall and spring can be unpredictable, especially at higher elevations.  It can be very warm one day only to drop to frigid temperatures the next. Take a look at the screenshot below from [Wunderground](https://www.wunderground.com/history/daily/KCOS/date/2020-9-23) of Colorado Springs (elevation 6,000 ft). It went from a low of 57F on Sept 7th to a literal freezing 31 degrees F on the next day.  This could create a miserable – or even dangerous – camping experience for anyone who wasn’t prepared. ![how cold it can get camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/drastic-weather-changes.jpg "drastic weather changes - Mom Goes Camping") Because of these drastic temperature changes in spring an fall, **you’ll need to** **plan for summer and winter.** You’ll need things like UV protection and warm-weather clothes, but also a good mid-layer and outer shell in case it gets colder than expected. \[sta\_anchor id=”20s30s40s” /\] ## Camping in 20 vs. 30 vs. 40 Degree Weather ### 40 Degrees Camping with nighttime temperatures in the low 40s is when you will really start feeling the cold.  At these temps, you can get away with having mediocre gear and clothes – but you’ll need to have *skills*.  For example, skills like knowing how to build a fire in wet conditions or choosing a good campsite become even more important. ### 30 Degrees When temperatures get into the 30s, you’ll need better gear. Or, if you don’t mind lugging around a lot of extra gear, you can double up: use two sleeping pads and two sleeping bags. **The main risk with camping at nighttime temperatures in the 30s is that you may get wet.** Even if it doesn’t rain, condensation will form inside the tent, potentially causing your gear to get wet. At these temps, skills are important. If you don’t know how to prevent condensation or keep your gear dry, bring LOTS of extra warm clothes as backups. ### 20 Degrees When camping at 20 degree weather, things start to get very uncomfortable.  Heck, even your FACE ends up feeling cold at night.  At these temps, you might consider a [tent heater](https://momgoescamping.com/best-safe-tent-heaters/). I wouldn’t want to take young kids camping in this cold (especially my daughter who complains about having to wear her “dorky” clothes, but that’s another issue…). On the flip side, there are a lot fewer campers out when the weather gets this cold.  You’ll have popular campsites all to yourself and the snow-covered peaks can be beautiful. But don’t rush it: Practice camping at warmer temperatures first before you test your gear (and endurance) at 20 degrees. \[sta\_anchor id=”tips” /\] ## **Tips for Camping in the Cold** ### **Choose a Campground Where You Can Make a Fire** Campfires are great for keeping you warm at the campsite until it’s time to crawl into your sleeping bag. But campfires aren’t always allowed.  Or you may be required to bring a portable campfire pit if you want to make a fire. Bear in mind that you also need to know how to make a fire.  It isn’t always easy when everything is wet or you have limited wood!  Make sure you read: [How to make a campfire](https://momgoescamping.com/make-fire-woods/) and [5 fire lays every camper needs to know](https://momgoescamping.com/fire-lays/). ### Avoid Sleeping Bag Mistakes Any of these mistakes could also make it too cold to go camping, despite having a bag rated for cold weather. - **Not fluffing a down sleeping bag:** Down sleeping bags are usually rated for very cold weather. However, they only provide insulation if the down feathers are fluffy. If you use a down bag straight from the compression sack, the feathers will be scrunched together and won’t provide insulation. Thus, you have to [fluff a down bag before using](http://www.trailspace.com/forums/gear-selection/topics/82506.html). - **Sleeping with your head inside the sleeping bag:** If it is cold while camping, your first reaction might be to put your head inside the sleeping bag. But this will cause vapor from your breath to get into the bag.  Even a slight amount of moisture will cause you to feel cold! If your head is cold, put on a hat instead. - **Choosing a sleeping bag which is too warm:** While it is smart to err on the side of caution when choosing a sleeping bag, don’t go crazy and use a 0F bag in 40F weather. You will end up sweating a lot at night. The sweat will cause you to get very cold while sleeping. - **Using an adult sleeping bag for children:** The extra room means that the sleeping bag won’t trap warmth as well.  Buy a child-sized sleeping bag for your kids. See this [**list of the best kids sleeping bags**](https://momgoescamping.com/best-kids-sleeping-bags/). ### Be Cautious When Using the Hot Water Bottle Trick A lot of websites recommend filling an un-insulated water bottle with hot water, then putting it in your sleeping bag. This will heat up your sleeping bag, but it is also dangerous.  What if the water bottle leaks?  Your sleeping bag – which is supposed to keep you alive – is not wet! If you are going to try this, then be extra cautious.  Make sure the bottle won’t leak and still wrap it in a towel in case it does. ### Cooking At Below Freezing Weather Bear in mind that isobutane camping stoves don’t work well in below freezing weather.  You’ll want to switch to liquid white gas, which performs better in the cold. No matter how cold it gets, NEVER COOK IN YOUR TENT.  You can end up dying from carbon monoxide poisoning. ### Bring Extra Calories Make sure you pack a lot more food than you normally would camping when it’s cold.  You can use this calculator to get an idea of **[how many calories to bring](https://momgoescamping.com/how-much-food-bring-backpacking-calculator/).** ### Don’t Sit on the Ground Sitting on the cold ground will suck the heat from  your body.  Bring chairs or a closed-cell foam pad to sit on. It will also keep your butt dry. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/insulating-self-from-ground.jpg "insulating self from ground - Mom Goes Camping")I felt like taking a nap outside but didnt want my sleeping pad to get wet  So I made a bed out of sticks  The sticks kept me off the cold ground so I stayed warm ### Orient Tent towards Sun When setting up camp, pay attention to which direction the sun will rise.  Make sure your tent will get the morning sun.  It goes a long way to thawing frost and warming you up in the cold morning. ### Go to the Bathroom before Sleeping There is a myth that a full bladder will make you warmer.  There’s no truth to this! Make sure you go to the bathroom before bed.  Otherwise you’ll have to crawl out of your warm sleeping bag in the cold night. ### Beware of Condensation Even if you vent your tent, condensation can still form inside on very cold nights camping.  The condensation can soak your gear.  Keep all your gear covered with garbage bags or your backpack cover so it doesn’t get wet. --- ## **Not sure what to eat while camping?**  I’ve written an eBook with over 50 dehydrator backpacking recipes. They pack down to lightweight and you just add water to rehydrate. Plus, there’s tons of info on meal planning and nutrition for backpacking.  [Learn more here](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/). ![camping meals](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/gallery-min.jpg "gallery-min - Mom Goes Camping")These are the types of meals Im eating when I backpack They pack in over 130 calories per ounce dry weight Just add water to rehydrate![dehydrated backpacking food](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/backpacking-meals.jpg "backpacking meals - Mom Goes Camping")These meals have 13700 calories and only weigh 69lbs dry Just add water to rehydrate                                               **Want gourmet meals on the trail?** **My dehydrator recipes ebook has 50+ calorie-dense backpacking recipes. Just add hot water.** **[                                                                    Get it here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck)** --- ###### Image credits: [Thejaswi I](https://www.flickr.com/photos/theju/) [Our tent](https://www.flickr.com/photos/theju/256169286/) [CC BY SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/), “[Mt. Olympos](https://www.flickr.com/photos/tedpap/430726119/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [teo de pap](https://www.flickr.com/people/tedpap/), “[Frosted Tent](https://www.flickr.com/photos/bartt/14633203251/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [bartt](https://www.flickr.com/people/bartt/), ###### Resources: https://www.outdoorindustry.org/pdf/EN13537Mccullough062209.pdf, <https://www.quora.com/Is-14-degrees-Celsius-a-good-temperature-for-camping> ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety **Tags:** cold, sleeping bags --- ### [Best Baby and Toddler Snow Sleds (with Seatbelts!)](https://momgoescamping.com/baby-toddler-sleds/) **Published:** November 23, 2024 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Sledding can be a great way to introduce babies and toddlers to snow. And, if you live somewhere really snowy, a sled can be a good alternative to a stroller for taking your baby on walks. Considering how dangerous sledding can be, it’s no surprise that there aren’t many sleds for babies or even toddlers.  I’ll go over the options here and what you need to know about sledding safely with little ones. **Also read: [Best Snow Suits](https://momgoescamping.com/best-snow-suits-babies-toddlers/) and [Best Base Layers for Babies and Toddlers](https://momgoescamping.com/base-layers-babies-toddlers/)** ## Is It Safe for Babies and Toddlers to Go Sledding? Once a baby can sit up by themselves, it is safe to pull or push them on a sled.  However, it is NOT safe for babies to go downhill sledding.  Even toddlers shouldn’t go downhill sledding without an adult holding them. Remember, the soft spot on the front of a child’s head doesn’t fully close until around 18 months.  They can easily get injured if they fall off a sled. A lot of experts say that children under five years old shouldn’t sled by themselves. The American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons (AAOS) goes as far as saying that children ages 12 and under should wear helmets when sledding. I admittedly have broken this rule.  At two years old, my daughter liked sledding so much with me and her big sister that I let her go down by herself– but only after I saw she was capable of holding on.  It was such a low slope that it barely could be considered “downhill.”  I also made sure there weren’t any objects in the way, which is the most common cause of sledding injuries. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/my-toddler-sledding-by-herself.jpg "my toddler sledding by herself - Mom Goes Camping")*My toddler sledding by herself Its barely a hill and her big sister was waiting for her at the bottom* ## Do Baby Sleds Need Seatbelts? Babies and toddlers are squirmy and can easily wriggle out of a sled.  For this reason, you may want to choose a sled with a seatbelt. However, **it’s more important for the sled to have a backrest and sides.** These are what ultimately will prevent your child from falling off the sled, especially if you accidentally jerk the sled too hard or hit a bump. ## Which Type of Sled Should I Get for My Baby? There are two types of baby/toddler sleds: runner sleds and plastic pull sleds. - **Runner sleds:** These are more expensive, but are more stable and easier to pull. They can also be used with older kids, so you’ll get more use out of them. - **Plastic pull sleds:** These are lightweight and easier to carry around. They aren’t as stable as runner sleds and your child will grow out of them sooner. ## Best Sleds for Babies and Toddlers ### [TOP PICK – Beaver Snow Sled for Toddlers](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BY3CHRPJ?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [![TOP PICK - Beaver Snow Sled for Toddlers](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41nUVWrw7+L._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BY3CHRPJ?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) - Quality crafted snow sled built from HDPE plastics. - Manufactured in North America. Premium quality product. - Comfortable cushion pad and seatbelt keeps your child safe and warm. - 9′ long full braid pull rope is gentle on hands. - Smooth plastic runners allow for easy pulling across the snow. [Check Price on Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BY3CHRPJ?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) There are a few reasons this sled is my top pick. First, it has a deep seat with a backrest and sides so your child isn’t likely to fall out even without the seatbelt on. The classic toboggan design is not likely to fall over and does really well on powdery snow.  Since the weight limit is 120lbs, so older children can use the sled.  Or your child can still it as they grow. Even though it looks like a classic sled, it’s made from heavy-duty plastic. The construction is very solid so you don’t have to worry about it breaking or cracking after one season. The cushion is included with the sled, so you don’t have to buy it separately. **Specs:** - **Weighs:** 12lbs - **Material:** HDPE - **Length:** 30” - **Seat width:** 15.75″ - **Backrest height:** 12” - **Weight limit:** 120lbs ### 2. [Pelican Baby Runner Sled](https://amzn.to/40a9qwo)![](https://ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&language=en_US&l=li3&o=1&a=B000OR5LKS) [![Pelican baby toddler runner sled](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/pelican-baby-runner-sled.jpg "pelican baby runner sled - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/pelican-baby-runner-sled.jpg) ### [Pelican Baby Sleigh](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000OR5LKS?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [![Pelican Baby Sleigh](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41vsbi-rYYL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000OR5LKS?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) - Baby sleigh designed to entertain toddlers on snow days - Elevated riding position with double-slat backrest to keep child dry - HDPE polymer runners are durable and long lasting - Maintenance-free; includes pull rope for easy toting - Measures 14.5 x 11.25 x 30 inches (W x H x D); weighs 6.7 pounds [Check Price on Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000OR5LKS?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) The brand Pelican mostly makes kayaks, boats and paddle boards.  They also make this cool baby toboggan too.  It does NOT have a seatbelt.  However, you can easily add a cheap seatbelt to the slats, such as [this one](https://amzn.to/497U0wQ) or [this one](https://amzn.to/496IzWs). The main reason to get this sled over the SnowBeaver is that it’s lighter weight: at under 7lbs, you won’t mind if you have to lug it around a bit. The brand doesn’t list the weight limit on the sled, but it’s fine for up to two years old. **Specs:** - **Weighs:** 6.7lbs - **Material:** Wood with HDPE runners - **Length:** 30” - **Seat width:** 14.5” - **Backrest height:** 11.25”                                                       **Heading out soon?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup, print them before you go. **[                                                        Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** --- ### 3.  [Flexible Flyer Baby Runner Sled](https://amzn.to/3Mcca71) [![Flexible Flyer baby runner sled](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/flexible-flyer-sled.jpg "flexible flyer sled - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/flexible-flyer-sled.jpg) Flexible Flyer is one of the most popular brands of sled.  This is their classic wooden baby sled.  Like the Pelican sled, it doesn’t have a seat belt. The weight limit on the FF pull sled is only 40lbs, so it’s not suitable for two children or older children.  They do make a [premium version of the sled](https://amzn.to/3SgHyVP) which has metal bars on the runners for durability and a higher weight limit of 50lbs. While both of these versions are good sleds, I like the SnowBeaver sled better. It has a higher weight limit and comes with a cushion.  There’s an [optional cushion](https://amzn.to/3Q0mKPu) that you can get for the Flexible Flyer baby sled, but it’s pricy. **Specs:** - **Weighs:** 8.5lbs - **Material:** Wood - **Length:** 29” - **Seat width:** 14” - **Backrest height:** 11.5” - **Weight limit:** 40lbs **[Get It Here](https://amzn.to/3Mcca71)** --- ### 4. [Pelican Baby Plastic Pull Sled](https://amzn.to/46HEKVR) [![Pelican baby plastic snow sled](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/pelican-baby-sled-2.jpg "pelican baby sled 2 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/pelican-baby-sled-2.jpg) [![Pelican baby plastic snow sled with canopy up](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/pelican-plastic-baby-sled.jpg "pelican plastic baby sled - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/pelican-plastic-baby-sled.jpg) Pelican also makes this baby sled.  It is designed to be used as a snow stroller and even comes with a canopy to block the snow and wind.  Unlike other small plastic baby sleds, this one is actually pretty stable.   The canopy is somewhat difficult to unzip with cold, gloved hands.  It’s possible to keep the canopy in down position until you need it though. **Specs:** - **Weighs:** 4.8lbs - **Material:** Plastic - **Length:** 30” - **Seat width:** 19.5” - **Backrest height:** 10” - **Canopy height:** 25” - **Age range:** Up to 24 months **[Get It Here](https://amzn.to/46HEKVR)** --- ### 5. [Flexible Flyer Baby Plastic Pull Sled](https://amzn.to/405NRx2) [![Flexible Flyer toddler pull sled](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/ff-toddler-pull-sled.jpg "ff toddler pull sled - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/ff-toddler-pull-sled.jpg) [![Flexible Flyer toddler pull sled](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/flexible-flyer-pull-sled.jpg "flexible flyer pull sled - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/flexible-flyer-pull-sled.jpg) This sled is really similar to the Pelican pull sled above. The main difference is that it doesn’t come with a canopy cover, which means it is cheaper. The base on the sled is wide, so it won’t tip over. However, it’s a bit short: if you hold the pull rope close to the sled, it can make the front of the sled slant upwards and tilt your baby backwards. **Specs:** - **Weighs:** 3.2lbs - **Material:** Plastic - **Length:** 26.5” - **Seat width:** 20” - **Backrest height:** 10.5” - **Age range:** Up to 3 years - **Max weight:** 40lbs [**Get It Here**](https://amzn.to/405NRx2) --- ### 6. [Gizmo Riders Baby/Toddler Sled](https://amzn.to/46Ix1XA) [![Gizmo rider toddler sled](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/gizmo-sled.jpg "gizmo sled - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/gizmo-sled.jpg) [![Gizmo Rider toddler pull sled for snow](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/gizmo-sled-3.jpg "gizmo sled 3 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/gizmo-sled-3.jpg) The Gizmo sled is the longest of any here, so it can be used with taller toddlers and children so long as they aren’t over 55lbs.  The seat design is pretty comfortable and there’s a 3-point harness. A nice design feature is that there’s a bar in the back.  This prevents the sled from tipping backwards as you pull.  Unfortunately, it’s still pretty easy for the sled to topple over to the sides – especially when turning.  The sled is also somewhat pricy compared to other plastic sleds and the handle needs to be longer. **Specs:** - **Weighs:**  2.9lbs - **Material:** HDPE - **Length:** 38.6” - **Seat width:** 22” - **Backrest height:** 9” - **Max weight:** 55lbs **[Get It Here](https://amzn.to/46Ix1XA)** ## Baby and Toddler Sled FAQ: #### What age can babies start sledding? Once a baby can sit up independently typically around 6–8 months — it’s safe to pull them on a flat-terrain sled. Downhill sledding is a different question: most pediatric safety organizations recommend children under 5 not sled downhill without an adult holding them, and the American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons recommends helmets for all children 12 and under when sledding. The soft spot on a baby’s skull doesn’t fully close until around 18 months, making head injuries particularly serious at that age. #### Do baby sleds need a seatbelt? A seatbelt is nice but not the most important safety feature. What matters more is a deep seat with high sides and a backrest, these prevent falls even without a seatbelt if you hit a bump or jerk the rope. If a sled you like doesn’t have a seatbelt, you can add a cheap aftermarket one easily. Never use a sled without sides or a backrest for a baby or toddler regardless of whether it has a seatbelt --- ###### Resources: <https://caringforkids.cps.ca/handouts/safety-and-injury-prevention/winter_safety>, <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1730512/pdf/v005p00198.pdf> , <https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/infant-and-toddler-health/multimedia/babys-soft-spots/vid-20084737> , ###### Image credits: “[ALP-2014-0213-003.jpg](https://www.flickr.com/photos/dissolved/14102145322/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [dissolved](https://www.flickr.com/people/dissolved/), “[baby sled](https://www.flickr.com/photos/rossbeane/2235158391/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [rossbeane](https://www.flickr.com/people/rossbeane/), “[20100206](https://www.flickr.com/photos/ceart99/4335700538/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [ceart99](https://www.flickr.com/people/ceart99/), “[The Infant Baby Boggan](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nofi/2116972232/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [nofi](https://www.flickr.com/people/nofi/), ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [BOB Revolution Flex 3.0 vs. BOB Alterrain Strollers](https://momgoescamping.com/bob-revolution-flex-3-0-vs-bob-alterrain-strollers/) **Published:** March 19, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** The brand BOB makes three fantastic strollers for off-road jogging and hiking: the Revolution Flex 3.0, Alterrain and Alterrain Pro.  Here’s what you need to know to decide between the three strollers. ## Quick Verdict: The biggest differences between the strollers are that the regular Alterrain has one-handed folding and the Pro model also has a hand brake. The Revolution Flex 3.0 costs significantly less. It folds with two hands but this means the fabric folds inwards. - **Choose the Alterrain Pro if:** You go on hilly terrain often. - **Choose the regular Alterrain if:** You want one-handed folding. - **Choose the Revolution Flex 3.0 if:** You have a lower budget or would rather have two-handed folding than the fabric folded outwards. **Want to check prices? Find the BOB Alterrain here [at Amazon.](https://amzn.to/4aL8jsC) The BOB Revolution Flex 3.0 is here [at Amazon.](https://amzn.to/4bKLRyY)** ## What’s the Strollers Have in Common The BOB Revolution Flex 3.0 and Alterrain strollers have a lot of similarities.  These are the major ones: - **Wheel size:** The strollers use the same wheels. The front wheel is 12.5 inches and the back two wheels are 16”. - **Air-filled tires:** The tires have good traction and tubes - **Max weight:** 75lbs - **Foot brake:** Flip-flop friendly - **Lockable front wheel:** It can be in locked or 360 degree swivel position - **Adjustable handlebar:** You can put the handlebars in multiple positions ## Differences between the Revolution Flex 3.0 and Alterrain Pro ![revolution flex 3.0 stroller](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/side-by-side-revolution-flex.jpg "side by side revolution flex - Mom Goes Camping")Revolution Flex 30 above[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/side-by-side-alterrain-pro.jpg "side by side alterrain pro - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/side-by-side-alterrain-pro.jpg)Alterrain Pro stroller above ### 1. One-Handed Folding The both Alterrain models have one-handed folding. However, as with [other off-road strollers](https://momgoescamping.com/all-terrain-strollers-hiking/) like the [Thule Urban Glide 2.0](https://momgoescamping.com/thule-urban-glide-2-0-review/), the method means the fabric is *outwards* when folded. By contrast, you need two hands to fold the Revolution Flex 3.0 but the fabric is inwards. Note you’ll probably need two hands to get the stroller into your car anyway, so the one-handed folding might not be that useful for you. **Folding the BOB Revolution (Above)** **Folding the Alterrain (Above)** ### 2. Hand Brake The Alterrain Pro stroller has a hand brake.  The regular Alterrain and the Revolution Flex 3.0 do not.  You probably don’t need a hand brake if you only go on flat terrain.  However, the hand brake comes in handy if you are on hills though as it allows you to slow down. Keep in mind that strollers get HEAVY with bigger babies or kids sitting in them. A hand brake helps you control speed on the downhill or snowy weather.                                                           **Heading out soon?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup — print them before you go. **[                                                             Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** ### 3. Suspension System The Revolution Flex 3.0 has an amazing suspension system that is similar to the ones found on mountain bikes.  For both Alterrain models, BOB updated this system to the Smoothshox.  I honestly couldn’t tell you what the technical differences are – just that the Smoothshox suspension apparently handle bumps better. Is the Smoothshox suspension really that much different? If you primarily walk go on smooth terrain, it probably doesn’t matter.  If you run on bumpy terrain though, it might be worth paying more for an Alterrain stroller instead of the cheaper Revolution Flex 3.0. ![bob stroller suspension system](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/bob-suspension-system.jpg "bob suspension system - Mom Goes Camping") ### 4. Size and Weight The Revolution Flex 3.0 is slightly lighter and more compact than the Alterrain strollers when folded.  There isn’t much of a size difference with the wheels removed though.  It is incredibly easy to remove the wheels on both strollers, and you’ll probably do it frequently to get the strollers into your car trunk. Check the measurements carefully to make sure the stroller will fit in your car trunk!  An inch could actually make a big difference! **Revolution Flex 3.0:** - **Folded (wheels on):** 39″x24.5″x16″ - **Folded (wheels off):** 35″x20″x10″ - **Weight:** 28.5lbs **Alterrain:** - **Folded (wheels on):** 25″x25.5″x16″ - **Folded (wheels off):** 33″x20.5″x13″ - **Weight:** 31.3lbs **Alterrain Pro:** - **Folded (wheels on):** 3″x25.5″x17″ - **Folded (wheels off):** 33″x21.5″x13″ - **Weight:** 32.3lbs ### 5. Appearance IMO, the Alterrain strollers look more sleek and attractive than the Revolution Flex 3.0.  The Alterrain also comes in several different colors. If you are [using a jogger as your everyday stroller](https://momgoescamping.com/can-you-use-a-jogging-stroller-as-your-main-stroller/), I completely understand why you’d pay more for the more attractive stroller! ### 6. Extras The Alterrain Pro has a few extras that the Revolution Flex 3.0 does not have.  These include: - Waterproof fabric - Zippered basket - Extended canopy - Extra vents - More reflective strips Note that the regular version of the Alterrain doesn’t have these features.  Read about the [differences between the Alterrain and Alterrain Pro](https://momgoescamping.com/bob-alterrain-pro-stroller-review/). ### 7. Price The Alterrain Pro is the most expensive of the three strollers. The regular Alterrain is slightly cheaper.  The Revolution Flex 3.0 usually costs at least $100 less and can often be found on sale or secondhand.  The Alterrain is the newer model so is harder to find on sale or used. ## BOB & Alterrain Pro Stroller FAQ: #### Is the BOB Revolution Flex 3.0 or Alterrain Pro better for trail running? It depends on the terrain. For hilly routes where speed control matters, the Alterrain Pro’s hand brake is genuinely useful, strollers get heavy with a child inside and the hand brake lets you control your pace on descents. For flat trails and roads, independent reviews consistently find the Revolution Flex 3.0 actually pushes more smoothly and is easier to run with, despite costing significantly less. If you’re primarily a road or flat-trail runner, the Revolution Flex 3.0 is likely the better buy. #### Can I use a car seat with both the BOB Alterrain and Revolution Flex 3.0? Both strollers are compatible with infant car seats, but they use different adapters that are not cross-compatible. The Revolution Flex 3.0 uses BOB’s standard adapter bar, which fits many popular car seat brands. The Alterrain series uses a separate adapter system, confirm compatibility with your specific car seat brand before buying, as not all adapters had been released at the time of writing. ## Revolution Flex 3.0 vs. Regular Alterrain BOB also makes a regular version of the Alterrain stroller. Unlike the Pro version, it does not have a hand brake, waterproof fabric or zippered basket.  So, the only real differences between the two strollers are that the regular Alterrain has a slightly better suspension system and can be folded with one hand. The prices of the regular Alterrain and Revolution Flex 3.0 are almost the same (though you can often find the Revolution on sale at Amazon).   So, it basically comes down to whether you want to pay a bit more for the regular Alterrain to have one-handed folding and a slightly better suspension system. If you don’t care about these features (or don’t want a stroller which folds with the fabric outwards!), then the Revolution is the way to go. **Ready to buy?  Get the Alterrain [at Amazon](https://amzn.to/4hFlMnU).  Find the Revolution Flex 3.0 here [at Amazon](https://amzn.to/4bKLRyY)** ## Comparison Table \[table id=56 /\] --- ###### Image credits: “[icestrolling](https://www.flickr.com/photos/reneeanddolan/366533512/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [dolanh](https://www.flickr.com/people/reneeanddolan/), “[Double BOB Stroller](https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnandchristina/14590564999/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [John and Christina](https://www.flickr.com/people/johnandchristina/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** strollers --- ### [Advice for Buying Backpacking and Camping Gear on AliExpress](https://momgoescamping.com/buying-backpacking-gear-aliexpress/) **Published:** May 25, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** As someone who lives in Eastern Europe, I often have trouble getting backpacking gear.  There’s no Amazon in my country and a lot of brands won’t ship here.  Because of this, I’ve bought an insane amount of things off of [AliExpress](https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DEzF2tR) – including backpacking and camping gear.   Here’s my advice if you want to buy gear on AliExpress. ## The Shipping Time Will Be VERY Long While some AliExpress brands do have local warehouses (there is a “ship from” option when searching), many of the items ship from China.  That means they have to go into massive shipping containers, travel across the sea, and then go through a slew of logistics before the postal service takes over. It can take anywhere from 30 to 60 days for items to reach you! In other words, your camping season may be over by the time your gear reaches you.   If you need a piece of gear faster, then you’ll have to pay more to buy it from places like Amazon or local sellers. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/aliexpress-ship-from-option.jpg "aliexpress ship from option - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/aliexpress-ship-from-option.jpg)Search local ship from option to receive your order faster ## Remember to Track Your Orders! One thing that scared me about buying gear on AliExpress is that the items might not arrive.  Surprisingly, I’ve never had that issue. But I wouldn’t be surprised if some packages occasionally don’t make it to customers.  Luckily, AliExpress is good about giving refunds for these situations.  However, to get a refund, you actually have to remember that something is going to arrive. Since it can take 60+ days for orders to arrive, **it’s easy to forget that you ordered something.**   The 75 day refund window might come and go without your realizing.  So set a reminder on your calendar to check  your orders! [![Aliexpress refund if product not received](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/aliexpress-refund-policy.jpg "aliexpress refund policy - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/aliexpress-refund-policy.jpg) ## You Won’t Be Able to (Easily) Return or Exchange Items Major retailers want to make online shopping as easy as possible, so they offer free returns.  You might have to pay for return shipping, but this usually isn’t a lot when the retailer is local. This is NOT the case with AliExpress. Since most of the sellers are located in China, you can’t exactly send an unwanted item back.  Sure, some of the sellers do allow returns but it would cost a fortune and take forever to send it to China.  Keep this in mind before you buy any big-ticket gear from AliExpress!  It’s always going to be a risk.                                                           **Heading out soon?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup — print them before you go. **[                                                             Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** ## Don’t Buy Electronics I advise *against* buying these types of backpacking items on AliExpress: - Flashlights - Headlamps - GPS - Power banks - Solar chargers Why? The quality control simple isn’t good enough. For example, I once bought two cheap generic-brand FitBits on AliExpress.  One of them didn’t work at all.  The other one worked, but the step counter seemed off.   The manufacturer did refund my money for the one which didn’t work, and it surprisingly wasn’t difficult to get the refund.  But I basically wasted my money on the second one. **Note:** If any of these electronics die on you, it could ruin your trip.  So don’t buy critical backpacking gear from AliExpress.  Better to stick to quality gear when your trip or even life depends on it! ## Also Don’t Buy Clothes As a material snob, I will never again buy clothes on AliExpress. There’s absolutely no way to tell the quality of clothing on those sites.  The sizing is also often off.  Since there’s no smart way to return items you buy on AliExpress, it’s a huge risk to buy clothing off the site.   It’s better to buy secondhand backpacking clothing anyway… ## Gear I WOULD Buy on AliExpress So electronics and clothes aren’t smart to buy on AliExpress. But here are some of the backpacking/camping gear I would recommend buying from AliExpress; - Cook pots - Camp utensils, cups, plates, etc. - Alcohol stove - Organizers - Compression straps - Sleeping pads - Sleeping bags (though it’s probably better to buy secondhand) - Tents (but with a lot of research first!) - Tarps - Camp chairs and tables - Mosquito nets - First aid *bag* (discard of the crappy items inside and [fill with your own items](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-first-aid-kit-checklist/)) ## The Reviews Are Fake… But Still Buy from Sellers with Lots of Reviews This applies to reviews at ALL online retailers.  But I wanted to mention it because a lot of people recommend “only buy from sellers with a lot of reviews.” However, you will often find the exact same product being sold by multiple sellers.  In this case, buy from the seller with the most reviews.  They will probably have a faster shipping time.  And, if the product is broken when it arrives, they are more likely to refund you without a hassle. ## Expect Gear Weight to Be Off If you are a hardcore ultralight backpacker, then be warned that the listed weight on AliExpress gear is going to be off.   Sometimes it can be off by a LOT.   Again, quality control isn’t always the best. ## AliExpress Camping Gear FAQ #### Is it safe to buy camping gear on AliExpress? It depends on the gear. Simple, non-critical items like camp utensils, stuff sacks, tent stakes, paracord, tarps, and cook pots are generally fine to buy on AliExpress, the stakes are low if quality isn’t perfect. Avoid electronics (headlamps, GPS, power banks), clothing, sleeping bags with temperature ratings, water filters, and any load-bearing gear where failure in the field could ruin your trip or put you at risk. Always vet the seller’s reviews, check the ship-from location, and order well before your camping season starts. Not all camping gear carries the same risk on AliExpress. ## **How to Vet Sellers Before You Buy** AliExpress seller quality varies enormously. Before purchasing any camping gear: 1. Check the seller’s overall rating and total number of sales — more is better 2. Read reviews that include photos from actual buyers, not just star ratings 3. Look for reviews that specifically mention the item you’re buying 4. Check the “ship from” location — items shipping from local warehouses arrive much faster 5. Message the seller with a specific question before buying — responsiveness is a good quality signal ## **The Bottom Line** AliExpress is a legitimate option for budget-conscious campers and backpackers who can’t easily access gear through Amazon or local retailers. Just know what to buy, vet your sellers carefully, and plan well ahead for long shipping times. ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [A Guide to Cold-Soaking Backpacking Food (Stove-less Meals)](https://momgoescamping.com/cold-soak-backpacking-meals/) **Published:** May 6, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Don’t want to bother carrying a stove or cooking meals while backpacking, but you still want to eat delicious food? Cold-soaking is a method of making backpacking meals without a stove which is getting popular with ultralight hikers.  Here’s what you need to know about cold-soaking backpacking meals and whether you should consider going stove-less. **Jump to:** - [What is cold soaking?](#whatis) - [Pros](#pros) - [Cons](#cons) - [What Foods Can Be Cold-Soaked?](#coldsoakfoods) - [Cold-Soak Meal Ideas](#mealideas) - [Pre-Packaged Backpacking Meals which Can Be Cold-Soaked](#meals) - [Containers](#containers) - [Tips](#tips) - [Verdict](#verdict) \[sta\_anchor id=”whatis” /\] ## What is Cold-Soaking? Cold-soaking is a method of preparing meals.  Here’s how it works. - Put your food in a leak-proof container. - Pour clean water over the food. - Wait anywhere from 5 minutes to 2 hours for the food to soften. - Stir and eat. Yes, cold-soaking meals really can be this simple.  However, you’ll probably have to do some prep work before you hit the trail such as dehydrating ingredients.  Newbies also often come across issues like some ingredients remaining crunchy even after soaking for hours. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/cold-soaking-carrot-cake.jpg "cold soaking carrot cake - Mom Goes Camping")*This is carrot cake which I dehydrated and then cold soaked for breakfast on the trail* --- \[sta\_anchor id=”pros” /\] ### Why Cold-Soak Meals? There are a lot of reasons why you might want to cold-soak your backpacking meals.  Here are the big ones. #### 1. Don’t have to bring a stove or fuel For thru-hikers or backpackers on longer trips, this can really save you a lot of weight.  It also frees up room in your pack.  Read these [ultralight backpacking tips for beginners](https://momgoescamping.com/ultralight-backpacking-tips/). #### 2. No worrying about running out of fuel Calculating fuel needs is really complicated.  Factors like the amount of wind, air temperature, and temperature of water which needs to be boiled can drastically change the amount of fuel you need.  I used to play it safe and bring more fuel than I think I need – which meant carrying extra weight.  When at least some of your meals can be made with cold-soaking, it’s not a big deal if you run out of fuel. #### 3. Don’t have to cook in the rain Even with [good rain gear](https://momgoescamping.com/stay-dry-hiking-rain/), I still hate cooking in the rain.  Because of carbon monoxide poisoning, it’s definitely not safe to cook inside your tent.  If you have some cold-soak meals, you can prepare them inside the tent and don’t have to worry about getting drenched.  It sure beats eating GORP for dinner on rainy evenings! #### 4. Saves time You can cold-soak meals while you hike.  This saves you time cooking when you reach camp.  Since cold-soaking usually only involves one container, you also don’t have to waste time cleaning a cooking pot. #### 5. Fire bans The risk of wildfire has gotten so bad in some places that they’ve made outright bans on all types of stoves. Cold-soaking meals might be your only option in these place.s #### 6. Saves you money A good backpacking stove and fuel costs money.  By going with the cold-soak method, you save money right out the door. \[sta\_anchor id=”cons” /\] ### The Case Against Cold-Soaking While cold-soaking backpacking meals is getting a lot of hype, there are definitely downsides… #### 1. Cold-soaking takes a lot of time Depending on the meal, it could take *hours* to cold-soak.  If you don’t plan well, you could arrive at camp and still have crunchy bits in your dinner. #### 2. Cold-soaking might not actually lighten your pack weight Because some cold-soak meals take *hours* to soften, it means you need to soak while you hike. That means they are extra water with you on the trail.  This counteracts the weight benefits of not carrying a stove, especially if there is a water source at camp anyway. **For example:** You’d need approximately ½ liter of water to cold-soak chili while hiking.  That’s an extra 500g/17.6oz of weight in your pack. The [MSR Pocket Rocket stove](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DMSR%2BPocket%2BRocket%26pagesize%3D90) weighs 74g/2.6oz.  Their smallest fuel canister weighs 210g/7.4oz full. It boils 2 liters of water per ounce, so can boil 5.2 liters of water, which should be enough for 4 days of backpacking. - **Cold soaking weight:** 500g/17.6oz - **Stove cooking weight**: 284g/10oz It isn’t this simple though.  With cold-soaking, you are only carrying the extra weight for a few hours.  Or you might be able to cold-soak at camp, so you don’t actually carry any extra water. You also don’t have to bring a cook pot.  Even if you are used to eating out of your cook pot, cold-soaking containers are usually a lot lighter than cook pots.  On the flip side, you might need more than ½ liter to cold-soak some meals, which means lugging around even more water weight!  If you go with an alcohol stove, the weight benefits might be even more negligible… **The bottom line?** Cold-soaking might not actually save you weight, so don’t choose this method just to save a few ounces without considering all the pros and cons. #### 3. Boiling helps disinfect dirty pots I do a terrible job of cleaning my pots.  There are usually bits of last night’s dinner still stuck on the pot when I go to make a new meal. That can be pretty gross. I’m not worried though since boiling meals means the pot gets sterilized. I also don’t use filtered water to clean out my pots, which means there could [parasites, bacteria, or other pathogens](https://momgoescamping.com/best-backpacking-water-filters-purifiers/) on the pot.  Boiling kills these, sparing me from a terrible bout of diarrhea while on the trail.  By sticking my spork into the boiling water (to stir meals), I’m also disinfecting it. #### 4. Stoves have other purposes In addition to cooking, your backpacking stove has many other purposes.  Here are a few: - **Purifying water:** If you lose your water filter or run out of tablets - **Sterilizing bandages:** I bring several sterile gauze bandages in my first aid kit (see what’s in it [here](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-first-aid-kit-checklist/)). These would run out quickly though if I had a serious injury. However, I could boil them to sterilize and re-use. - **Warm drinks to fight hypothermia** - **Sterilize my menstrual cup** (ladies, read more on that [here](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-period/)) #### 5. Lots of foods don’t rehydrate well with cold water It took me a lot of trial and error to get my cold-soaking recipes right.  Dehydrated mushrooms and tofu? They will NOT rehydrate with cold-soaking!  It really sucks to discover this on the trail when you are tired and hungry. #### 6. Hot coffee? While Starbucks Via apparently are okay cold-soaked, I still prefer my coffee hot! See these [ways to make coffee](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-coffee/) on the trail. --- ### Alternative Method (Hot Soaking) Instead of cold-soaking meals, you can try hot soaking instead.  Here’s how it works: - Boil water with a stove - Pour the hot water over your meal - Let it soak, usually for just about 15 minutes - Eat while still warm While you still need to bring a stove for hot-soaking, you still get a lot of the same benefits that come with cold-soaking, like less time cooking.  The hot-soak method also uses less fuel than cooking.  Further, most foods will rehydrate a lot faster with hot water.  This means you can hot-soak when you reach camp, so you don’t have to carry around water weight.  You can even let the food soak while doing chores like setting up your tent.   And, if there are still some crunchy bits, you can always put it on the stove to finish cooking. --- \[sta\_anchor id=”coldsoakfoods” /\] ## What Foods Can Be Cold-Soaked? Here are foods which can definitely be cold-soaked. - **Ramen:** usually requires about 20-30 minutes - **Instant mashed potatoes:** Instant - **Couscous:** 5-15 minutes - **Rice noodles**: Need to be soaked for 1+ hours and generally turn to mush, so don’t really recommend them - **Oatmeal:** 5-20 minutes, depending on desired texture - **Polenta mix:** 5-20 minutes - **Sweet potato powder:** 10 minutes. You can buy it [here](https://amzn.to/3a0BLKo) - **Dehydrated refried beans:** 5-20 minutes - **Falafel mixes**: 5 minutes (turns into a spread instead of falafel) - **Hummus mixes:** 5 minutes - **Textured soy protein (TSP) or textured vegetable protein (TVP):** 5-30 minutes. Make sure you get it in small pieces, not large chunks. Butler’s soy curls apparently work well though. - **Packets of creamy soups**: 15-30 minutes. Applies to cream soups, such as cream of tomato soup or cream of mushroom.  Soups with pasta or pieces of veggies in them usually cannot be cold-soaked. - **Freeze-dried fruits and veggies**: 5-30 minutes. Note some don’t rehydrate well! - **Dehydrated fruits and veggies:** 5-30 minutes. Note some dried fruits/veggies require an insanely long soak time or never fully rehydrate, such as dried mushrooms. - **Jerky:** 15-60 minutes. It ends up being still is chewy but has a softer texture instead of a jerky texture - **Milk powder:** Instant but usually still has a bunch of clumps in it - **Breakfast shake powders:** Instant \*Read about [DIY freeze-dried meals](https://momgoescamping.com/diy-freeze-dried-backpacking-mealss/) here. ### Can you cold soak instant rice or Knorr Rice sides? Instant rice has been cooked then dehydrated or freeze-dried.  In theory, it *can* be cold-soaked.  However, it usually takes a very long time to cold-soak instant rice.  Even after 2 hours, it might still be crunchy and thus hard to digest.  I do NOT recommend cold-soaking instant rice.  Your body won’t be able to digest it well. Don’t be surprised if you end up with diarrhea. ### Can you cold-soak pasta? No, pasta cannot be cold-soaked.  It will get softer when soaked.  However, the starches and proteins in pasta need to reach around 130-185F in order to break down.  If they don’t reach this temperature, your body will not be able to digest the pasta, leaving you with a terrible stomach ache.  Since you don’t absorb the nutrients in undigested food, it means cold-soaked pasta ends up being wasted food and empty weight in your pack. There is one way to cold-soak pasta though: cook it and then dehydrate it.  Because it has been pre-cooked, you can then cold-soak it without issues.  However, I personally find this a waste of time.  Dehydrated pasta also can get super mushy when rehydrated.  Read more about that in my post on [dehydrating your own backpacking meals](https://momgoescamping.com/diy-dehydrated-backpacking-meals/). ### Can you cold-soak pre-packaged backpacking meal, like from Mountain House? No, you cannot cold-soak most packaged backpacking meals.  These meals usually contain pasta which must be heated to become edible.  Other meals contain rice which usually doesn’t cold-soak well. However, there are some backpacking meals which work with cold-soaking.   See the list at the end of this post. ### Can you cold-soak dehydrated and freeze-dried foods? Yes, virtually all dehydrated and freeze-dried foods can be cold-soaked (they can also be eaten raw).  However, some dried foods don’t ever fully soften.  While still technically edible, they might be harder to digest and you won’t get as many nutrients from them.  Some people even report getting stomach cramps or diarrhea from not fully rehydrating foods. In my experience, these dry foods can NOT be made with cold-soaking\*: - Corn (though a workaround is to grind dehydrated corn into a powder) - Peas - Mushrooms - Tofu \*The workaround is to use a high-powered blender to grind these into a powder.  Then they will rehydrate almost instantly in cold water. \[sta\_anchor id=”mealideas” /\] ## Cold-Soak Meal Ideas These cold-soak meals can be made with foods found in the supermarket. - Instant mashed potatoes with dried milk, TVP and lots of spices - Ramen with dried veggies - Freeze dried chicken with freeze dried cheese powder - Couscous with kale chips and salami - Couscous with dehydrated tomatoes (cut into small pieces), olive oil, and cheese powder - Instant hummus mix, eaten with tortillas or on a bagel - Refried bean mix, eaten with Fritos stirred into it - Oats with raisins and dried milk powder - Oats and any other dried fruit, so long as the fruits are cut into little pieces **If you want tastier and healthier cold-soak meals, try dehydrating.**  Some dehydrated foods work amazingly well with cold-soaking.  For example, quinoa rehydrates in just 15 minutes.  Even better, dehydrating means your food is really lightweight.  My corn chowder, for example, has 189 calories per ounce! You can even dehydrate things like pancakes and make them with cold-soaking on the trial. ***Pumpkin Quinoa Chili*** ![cold soak quinoa](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/cold-soak-quinoa.jpg "cold soak quinoa - Mom Goes Camping") ***Dehydrated Hummus with Dehydrator Red-Pepper Zucchini Crackers*** ![cold soak hummus](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/cold-soak-hummus.jpg "cold soak hummus - Mom Goes Camping") ***Instant potatoes with dehydrated kale and served with dehydrator white bean gravy*** ![cold soak instant mashed potatoes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/cold-soak-mashed-potatoes.jpg "cold soak mashed potatoes - Mom Goes Camping") **Want gourmet meals on the trail, no stove required?** My dehydrator recipes ebook has 50+ calorie-dense backpacking recipes, many of which work perfectly with cold-soaking. **[Get it here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck)** [![backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/backpacking-dehydrator-recipes-ebook.jpg "backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/backpacking-dehydrator-recipes-ebook.jpg) [**Get my book here** ](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck) \[sta\_anchor id=”meals” /\] ## Pre-Packaged Backpacking Foods which Can Be Cold-Soaked As mentioned before, most pre-packaged backpacking meals (like the ones from Backpackers Pantry or Mountain House) cannot be cold-soaked.   They usually contain rice or pasta and need to be boiled to fully rehydrate and become digestible. However, there are some exceptions.  As a general rule, **if the instructions say, “add hot water,” it can be made with cold-soaking.** --- \[sta\_anchor id=”containers” /\] ## Cold-Soaking Containers **A good cold-soaking container must be:** - Leak proof, especially if you will be soaking while you hike - Large enough to hold an entire rehydrated meal plus some extra space for stirring - Wide enough that you can easily eat the contents - No taller than your fork, or how will you get the food at the bottom? **There are plenty of containers which meet these requirements.  Here are some of the most popular ones.** - **Talenti Gelato Containers**: 473ml; 1.9oz. The only bad thing is they have large bumps at the bottom of the container. This makes it hard to clean the container as food gets stuck in the bumps. - **Ziploc Twist and Lock containers:** 473ml; 1oz. These are similar in size to the Talenti containers but are lighter and don’t have those annoying bumps at the bottom. However, they don’t come full of tasty gelato 😉  Get them [here](https://amzn.to/2vf8Vr5). - **Peanut butter containers:** Usually 1-2oz for 750ml. Look for plastic containers with straight sides and no bumps on the bottom. - **Protein powder containers:** These are often made from thicker plastic which holds up well on the trail. - **Gatorade powder containers:** 650ml; 1.8oz - **Quart**–**size freezer bag:** 946ml; 0.2oz. While these are really light, I don’t recommend them.  They are a pain to clean and might break open on you while you hike. - **CNOC Cold**–**soak bags:** 1000ml; 1.9oz - **Wide**–**mouthed titanium water bottle:** It can be put on an open flame in case you want to cook over a fire some days. Note: Plastic containers often get destroyed or deformed in the dishwasher. Wash them by hand!  And don’t pour boiling water in them!! ### What about crotch pots? On one website, a backpacker recommended making a “crotch pot.”  Basically, you put your food in a plastic bag and hang it in front of your crotch.  The heat from your body warms up the food as you hike. While clever, this is probably a terrible idea.  In a forum, one hiker talked about how he tried cold-soaking oats with powdered yogurt this way.  The bag burst open and he reeked of yogurt for days.  Probably not great if you are in bear country! :0   If you really want warm food, then bring a friggin’ stove instead of risk getting food all over your crotch! --- \[sta\_anchor id=”tips” /\] ## Tips for Cold-Soaking Meals ### Use a Stainless Steel or Titanium Water Bottle So long as they aren’t double-wall or insulated, both of these materials can be put directly over fire.  This gives you more versatility in case you ever want to heat up water, such as if come across a backpacker who already has a campfire going.  Look for wide-mouthed, straight-side bottles as these are the easiest to clean. ### Cream Textures Work Best Whenever you rehydrate meals, there’s a risk of some ingredients turning into mush and others remaining crunchy.  Thus, the meals which work best are creamy ones.   For example, creamy soups, dips like hummus, and gravy. ### Turn Dried Fruits and Veggies into a Powder Some dried fruits and veggies will never fully rehydrate; no matter how long you soak them, they will remain crunchy.  This includes foods like peas, corn, and mushrooms.  However, there’s a workaround: Use a coffee mill or a high-speed blender to grind the dried food into a powder.  Then they will rehydrate almost instantly and have a great, uniform texture. If you don’t want to bother dehydrating and then grinding your own foods, you can buy fruit and veggie powders online.  [This](https://amzn.to/3bZX4O6) brand is good. ### Test Meals First! It’s smart to test cold-soaking a meal *before* you hit the trail – especially if you are going on a long trip and will be eating the same meals multiple times.  Do this even if someone has told you that X or Y food can be cold-soaked.   You might unfortunately discover that some brands of ramen, for example, can’t be cold-soaked. ### Don’t Add too Much Water Too much water will turn meals like mashed potatoes into a gross, soupy mess.  Start by adding a small amount of water.  Then check the food about 5 minutes later and see if it is completely soft.  You can always add more water but you can’t take it away! ### You Might Need to Rehydrate in Steps Some foods require a longer soaking time than others.  If you try to soak them all together, some ingredients will end up soggy and others will end up crunchy.  Prevent this by keeping ingredients packaged separately, and then soaking the ones with the longest soak time first.  Here’s how it might work: - Add dried veggies and water to container. Soak for 1 mile. - Add TVP and water. Soak for another mile. - Reach camp and add instant mashed potatoes and some water. Stir and eat. ### Harness the Sun If you are cold-soaking while at camp, then harness the sun’s heat.  You can lay your cold-soak container in the sun to warm it up. Or, while on a day hike, you can leave a water bottle out in the sun at camp so the water warms up.  Then use this water to make your food.  \*You don’t want to cold-soak unattended food though as animals can get it. \[sta\_anchor id=”verdict” /\] ## Cold Soaking Backpacking FAQ #### What is the best container for cold soaking backpacking meals? The Talenti gelato jar (473ml, 1.9oz) and the Ziploc Twist and Lock container (473ml, 1oz) are the two most popular options. The Ziploc is lighter and has a flat bottom that’s easier to clean, the main downside is it doesn’t come filled with gelato. For longer trips where you want to occasionally cook over a fire, a wide-mouth titanium water bottle works as both a cold-soaking container and a camp pot. #### Can you cold soak pasta? No, uncooked pasta cannot be safely cold-soaked. The starches and proteins in pasta need to reach 130–185°F to break down properly. Cold-soaked pasta will soften but won’t digest well, and you’ll likely end up with a stomach ache on the trail. The only exception is pasta that has been pre-cooked and then dehydrated — that can be cold-soaked safely, though the texture tends to be mushy. ## Verdict On short weekend backpacking trips, cold-soaking is usually a good choice.  You won’t mind eating cold food when it’s just a few days. For longer trips though, it usually makes sense to bring a stove.  You’ll appreciate having more variety of food when on the trail for a long time.  And the weight savings are often negligible – especially if you are going with a partner and will be sharing the weight of the stove. Personally, I always bring a stove backpacking.  I like hot meals and coffee too much to ditch my stove.  However, most of my meals can still be made with the cold-soak method.  This gives me flexibility if I am too tired to cook, the weather is bad, or I run out of fuel. **Do you cold-soak backpacking meals? Let us know any tips or meal ideas you have in the comments section below!** ---                                 **Want gourmet meals on the trail, no stove required?** My dehydrator recipes ebook has 50+ calorie-dense backpacking recipes, many of which work perfectly with cold-soaking. **[                                                                     Get it here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck)** ![dehydrator backpacking recipes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/book-with-tablet.png "book with tablet - Mom Goes Camping") --- Resources for this article include: <https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/cold-soaking-containers/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/6iuqco/cold_cooking_weight_of_containers_comparison/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/be8r0g/cold_soaking_ye_or_nay/> [https://www.exploratorium.edu/food/soaking-pasta ](https://www.exploratorium.edu/food/soaking-pasta) <https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10942910600871289> ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Food **Tags:** dehydrating, food, meals, ultralight --- ### [How Long Does the Sawyer Mini Water Filter Really Last?](https://momgoescamping.com/how-long-does-sawyer-mini-filter-last/) **Published:** September 10, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Aside from the fact that it is cheap, one of the reasons I love my Sawyer Mini filter is because it has a very long lifespan.  But don’t expect the Sawyer Mini to last as long as advertised.  Here’s how long the Sawyer Mini *really* lasts. ## How Long Does the Sawyer Mini Last? Sawyer Mini has an advertised lifespan of 100,000 gallons (378,541 liters).  Realistically though, the Sawyer Mini will last much less than this. If you mostly filter clear water, such as from mountain streams, the Sawyer Mini will probably be good for upwards of 1,000 gallons.  If you use the Sawyer Mini to filter murky water, such as from ponds, it might only last for 300 gallons. The reason is because the filter membrane gradually gets clogged.  The Sawyer Mini will still work but the water flow will be so slow that it will be virtually unusable.   My first Sawyer Mini lasted for about 600 gallons before it became so clogged that I had to buy a new one. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/old-and-new-sawyer-mini.jpg "old and new sawyer mini - Mom Goes Camping")*My old and new Sawyer Mini The label wore off on the old one*                                                         **Want gourmet meals on the trail?** My dehydrator recipes ebook has 50+ calorie-dense backpacking recipes — just add hot water. **[                                                                           Get it here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck)** ### Old vs. New Sawyer Mini Water Flow Rate The Sawyer Mini has a very slow flow rate even when it is new.  As the filter gets clogged, the flow rate gradually slows down even more.  Cleaning the filter will help unclog it but the flow rate may never go back to how it used to be. In the video below, my new Sawyer Mini is on the left.  The old Sawyer Mini is on the right. The old one is so clogged that the filter is actually leaking at the seal. ### Cleaning the Filter Extends Its Life The next video shows the same two Sawyer Mini filters after I cleaned the old one.  Read [how to unclog the Sawyer Mini](https://momgoescamping.com/unclog-sawyer-mini/) here. As you can see, the flow rate is a lot better.  However, if I push too hard, the water still starts leaking from the thread area where it’s attached to the pouch.  This is despite putting a new O-ring on the filter.  If that were dirty water, it would end up in my clean water container. At a certain point, you’ll have to give up on it and buy a new Sawyer Mini. \*Get one [here at Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FA2RLX2/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00FA2RLX2&linkId=f80b04b1477ceb210e365082e90464b6) or [at REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dsawyer%2Bmini). ## Does the Sawyer Mini Expire? The Sawyer Mini never expires.  You can leave it in storage for years and it will still work fine when you use it again.   However, Sawyer Mini filters can sometimes get gross inside, especially if they weren’t cleaned and dried before put in storage. **Before putting a Sawyer Mini in storage:** - Back flush the filter with clean water - Sanitize the filter. To do this, mix a solution of non-scented bleach (3 tsp. of bleach per gallon of water) and back flush this through the filter. - Let the filter dry before storing it. - Test the filter using tap water before using it in the field. ### Water Coming from Sawyer Mini is Gross and Moldy Tasting Always test your Sawyer Mini with tap water before taking it on a trip.  If the tap water coming out of the Sawyer Mini has a gross taste to it, then you’ll want to sanitize the filter by back flushing with a bleach solution.  Unfortunately, this won’t always get out the bad taste – especially if you put a dirty Sawyer Min in storage for a long time.  In this case, you can choose to drink the foul-tasting water or just get a new filter. ## Sawyer Mini Lifespan FAQ #### When should I replace my Sawyer Mini? Replace your Sawyer Mini when backflushing no longer restores an acceptable flow rate, or when the filter starts leaking at the seal or thread area even after replacing the O-ring. A filter that leaks is filtering nothing, contaminated water is bypassing the membrane entirely. Don’t try to nurse it along past that point. At $20–25, the Sawyer Mini is cheap enough to replace rather than risk getting sick from a compromised filter. #### Can the Sawyer Mini go bad in storage? The filter membrane itself doesn’t expire and can sit in storage for years without degrading. What can go bad is the interior of the filter if it was stored wet or dirty, mold and bacteria can grow inside, resulting in foul-tasting water even after filtration. Always backflush, sanitize with a dilute bleach solution, and fully dry the filter before storing it. Before any trip, test it with tap water at home to confirm the flow rate is acceptable and the water tastes clean. **Also read: [Tips for Using the Sawyer Mini Water Filter](https://momgoescamping.com/sawyer-mini-tips/)** --- ###### Sources: https://www.dhhs.nh.gov/dphs/holu/documents/hom-sani.pdf https://sawyer.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/sawyer\_bucket-cleaning\_2016-01-15e.pdf\| <https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/6yvmyl/sawyer_mini_in_storage_for_3_years/> ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** filter, Sawyer Mini --- ### [Best First Knives for Kids (As Chosen by an Outdoorsy Mom)](https://momgoescamping.com/best-first-knives-kids/) **Published:** March 25, 2024 **Author:** Diane **Content:** In today’s helicopter-parenting world where we go to extreme lengths to keep kids from getting hurt, it might seem a bit crazy to get a real knife for a child.  But you could also argue that knowing how to use a knife is a skill every child should know, and having their own knife helps kids learn responsibility. There’s no hard answer for when a child should get their first knife but, when they are ready, there are plenty of safe knife options for kids.  I’ll go over these best pocket, fixed-blade and multi-tool knives for kids as well as some alternatives and guidelines for choosing and how to make sure your kid doesn’t get hurt. **Jump to:** - **[Quick Picks](#picks)** - [**What age is appropriate for kids to get a knife?**](#age) - [**How to choose a first knife for a child?**](#choose) - [**Best real knives for kids**](#best) - [**Knife alternatives for kids**](#alternatives) - [**Safety rules**](#rules) [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/knife-practice-girl.jpg "knife practice girl - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/knife-practice-girl.jpg) \[sta\_anchor id=”picks” /\] ## Quick Picks: **Best overall + safest knife: [Morakniv Scout 39 Safe – Fixed Blade](https://amzn.to/43wxKdD).**  It has a rounded tip, finger guard and is a fixed-blade (which is safer than a folding knife).  The blade is great quality so holds its edge well. Sharp knives are safer than dull knives, so this is important. [![Morakniv Scout 39 safe knife for child](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Morakniv-Scout-39-Safe-S-Morakniv.jpg "Morakniv-Scout-39-Safe-S-Morakniv - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Morakniv-Scout-39-Safe-S-Morakniv.jpg) --- **Budget Pick: [Opinel My First – Folding Knife](https://amzn.to/3ISrXpq).** Even though it is cheap, it’s a great-quality knife.  It is designed for kids and has a rounded tip and reliable locking system. [![Opinel my first folding knife](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/opinel-my-first.jpg "opinel my first - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/opinel-my-first.jpg) --- **Multi-tool: [Victorinox Junior 09](https://amzn.to/3vhQcdB).** A high-quality multi-tool designed for kids. The blade has a rounded tip and locks securely in place. Kids will love the saw tool too. [![Victorinox-Junior multi tool for kids](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Victorinox-Junior.jpg "Victorinox-Junior - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Victorinox-Junior.jpg) --- **Wooden knife set: [CRKT Nathan’s Wooden Knife Set](https://amzn.to/4csDPfn).** It’s a fun project to put together and acts like a real knife – perfect for teaching little kids knife safety. [![wooden knife set by CRKT](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/nathans-knife.jpg "nathans knife - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/nathans-knife.jpg) \[sta\_anchor id=”age” /\] ## At What Age Is It Appropriate for a Kid to Get a Real Knife? It depends on the child, but most children can start using a rounded-tip knife with supervision around the age of five.  Around 8 years old, which is the age where Scouts usually start working on their whittling badges, kids may be ready to have their own knife but still may need to be supervised.  By the age of 10, responsible children can have their own knife and use it unsupervised. ### Your Child Is Probably Ready for their Own Knife If They… #### 1. Follow Rules If you can trust your child to follow the rules and generally not do stupid stuff, they are probably ready for a knife. This has nothing to do with age.  I know a lot of 8 years olds that I’d trust more than 15 year olds when it comes to following rules! Lay out the rules (more about this later). If your child doesn’t follow the rules, you take the knife away from them.  Simple. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/age-for-first-real-knife.jpg "age for first real knife - Mom Goes Camping")Hes only 5 but can be trusted to use the knife safely Not all 5 year olds are this calm though #### 2. Know First Aid I’m a firm believer that all kids should learn first aid from an early age, and they shouldn’t be allowed to handle sharp objects like knives unsupervised until they’ve learned how to treat wounds. On a personal note, my older daughter hasn’t cut herself on a knife yet but she did stab her hand while using a scalpel when she was 9 years old. She called me and I rushed home.  There was blood all over the floor and she was sobbing.  I was incredibly proud though because, despite her sobbing, she had followed perfect first aid protocol when bandaging her wound. #### 3. Respect Their Other Belongings A knife is a serious tool and must be treated with respect. If your child doesn’t put away their toys, leaves things in the middle of the floor or constantly loses their things, they aren’t ready for a knife. #### 4. Have Good Motor Skills/Can Cut Soft Items A 4-year old probably isn’t going to be ready for a real knife. They simply don’t have good enough of a grasp to use a knife correctly. However, that doesn’t mean you need to wait until they are older to teach them knife skills.  I gave my daughter a blunt, rounded knife when she was 4 ½ years old and let her “help” me prepare meals.  She would use it to cut soft items like bananas or cucumbers.  Now, she’s almost 6 and is very good at using a kitchen knife. She still isn’t ready for a pocket knife (and still hasn’t asked for one), but will likely be ready by the time she’s 8 or 9. By the way, Opinel makes an awesome [kitchen knife for kids](https://amzn.to/3Tyoykt) with a finger guard. It’s great for teaching knife skills. \[sta\_anchor id=”choose” /\] ## Choosing a First Real Knife for a Child Here are some of the key features to look at when choosing a first knife for a child. ### Rounded Point Knives for Safety Most knives designed to be a child’s first knife have a rounded point, so you don’t have to worry about accidental stabbing.  I’m a big advocate of these safety knives because the knife tip doesn’t really get used often anyway.  Your child will still be able to whittle, peel bark off walking sticks, and make kindling with a rounded knife. The tip of the knife is its weakest point, so is prone to breaking when misused (and your kids will misuse it!).  So, a rounded-point knife will last longer.    I also feel like kids are less likely to do something stupid like throw their knife at a tree when the point is rounded. On the downside, your child won’t be able to carve holes or do detailed carving with a rounded point.  If this is the main way they will use the knife, a pointy tip is the way to go or consider getting them specialty woodworking tools instead. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/rounded-knife-tip-for-safety.jpg "rounded knife tip for safety - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/rounded-knife-tip-for-safety.jpg)Theres almost no chance of accidental stabbing with the rounded tip of the My First Opinel knife ### Fixed Blade vs. Folding for a Child Fixed-blade knives are almost always the better choice when it comes to first knives for kids (or adults, for that matter).  They are inherently safer because kids tend to cut themselves when folding knives.  They just can’t seem to remember to keep their fingers out of the way.  Fixed blades are also stronger and easier to maintain. If you are going to go with a folding knife for your child, then choose a lock-back knife with two-handed opening. These have a locking mechanism which keeps them locked when open or closed.  To close the knife, you press a button on the back. **Absolutely Avoid:** - **Slip-joint folding knives.** These don’t lock in place so can easily fold over onto your child’s fingers or hand. - **Cheap folders.** The locking mechanisms on these are unreliable. If you are on a budget, get a fixed-blade instead. ### The Knife Must Be VERY Sharp **A dull knife is a dangerous knife.**  This is because you have to apply a lot of pressure on a dull knife, making it more likely to slip.  If the knife does slip, the extra force means it can cause a lot of damage.  A dull cutting edge will also make wide cut whereas a sharp knife makes a thin cut which heals quickly. So, it is very important that your child’s knife be kept very sharp.  If you get them a very cheap knife which doesn’t hold its edge well, then it may need to be sharpened after each use. Consider getting your kid a little sharpening stone so they can do this themselves. If you are scared to give your kid a sharp knife, whatever you do, don’t give them a semi-sharp knife. Instead, give them a very dull knife (like a wooden knife) and let them use this until they learn proper knife technique. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/sharpening-knife.jpg "sharpening knife - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/sharpening-knife.jpg)A sharp knife is a safe knife Teach your child to sharpener their knife \[sta\_anchor id=”best” /\] ## Best Real Knives for Kids ### Fixed Blades Fixed blade knives are safer than folding knives and much sturdier, so better for doing things like whittling or making tinder.  They are also cheaper to make than folders, so you can get a better knife for the same budget. | Image | Product | Features | Price | |---|---|---|---| | [![Morakniv Scout 39 Safe](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/318dTmyKAxL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09VS9N6V8?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1) | [Morakniv Scout 39 Safe](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09VS9N6V8?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1) | - Rounded tip for safety - 3.4″ blade; 7″ total length - Birch wood handle with finger guard - Leather sheath | [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09VS9N6V8?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1) | | [![BeaverCraft Scout Knife](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51G6B3osgCL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CJ3GTDBL?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | [BeaverCraft Scout Knife](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CJ3GTDBL?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | - Rounded tip for safety - 2.9″ blade length; 7″ overall length - Walnut wood handle with finger guard - Leather sheath | [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CJ3GTDBL?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | | [![Hultafors GK Heavy Duty Knife](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/31FuOWKyLBL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004O9MIE4?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1) | [Hultafors GK Heavy Duty Knife](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004O9MIE4?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1) | - Drop-point blade - 3.6″ blade; 8.7″ overall length - Plastic handle with finger guard - Plastic sheath - Very affordable | [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004O9MIE4?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1) | ### Folding Knives While fixed blades are better, folding knives are smaller so easier to carry.  The following folding knives are good for kids because they have reliable lockback locking systems, so won’t accidentally close on  your child’s fingers. | Image | Product | Features | Price | |---|---|---|---| | [![Opinel My First Knife](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/21wMtO4avPS._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GSAJOP8?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | [Opinel My First Knife](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GSAJOP8?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | - Rounded safety tip - 3.5″ blade; 6.5″ open; 3″ closed - Viroblock safety locking system - Available in several colors | [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GSAJOP8?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | | [![Boker Range Buster JR](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/21GTk+gHjwL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B8QJDJKX?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | [Boker Range Buster JR](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B8QJDJKX?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | - Drop-point tip - 3″ blade; 6.6″ open; 3″ closed - Lockback locking system - Weighs just 2oz | [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B8QJDJKX?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | | [![Bear & Son Midsize](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/217tmOBXTfL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000UV0CE8?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | [Bear & Son Midsize](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000UV0CE8?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | - Drop-point tip - 2.75″ blade; 7.5″ open; 3.75″ closed - Gorgeous rosewood handle with contoured grip - Lockback locking system with two-handed opening | [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000UV0CE8?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | ### Multi-tools The knife on a multi-tool is never going to be as good as a fixed blade or a good folder. However, if your child is the industrious type and more likely to use the tools than the knife, a multi-tool might be better than a knife.  I had one when I was 10 and loved using the screw driver to take things apart. Consider getting some old telephones and appliances at junk sales or you might find your belongings in pieces 🙂 I’ve included a bladeless multi-tool here.  Leatherman also makes the [bladeless Rebar](https://amzn.to/3TwTeT9) but it’s fairly expensive to be a child’s first knife, so it isn’t one of my top picks. | Image | Product | Features | Price | |---|---|---|---| | [![Victorinox Junior](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41dt1mLnHYL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KNO2CHC?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1) | [Victorinox Junior](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KNO2CHC?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1) | - Rounded tip for safety - Blade locks in place - Contains 7 tools - Lifetime warranty | [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KNO2CHC?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1) | | [![Gerber Gear Dime](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/31xhxo8n2dL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006M9NIEI?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | [Gerber Gear Dime](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006M9NIEI?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | - 1 3/8″ blade - Butterfly opening - 12 tools - Affordable but durable | [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006M9NIEI?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | | [![Gerber Gear Bladeless 600](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41IeGJElp5L._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KYO627M?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1) | [Gerber Gear Bladeless 600](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KYO627M?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1) | - No blade - 14 tools - Weighs 9oz - Somewhat pricy | [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KYO627M?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1) | \[sta\_anchor id=”alternatives” /\] ## Knife Alternatives for Kids Your child wants a knife but you don’t think they are ready yet? Several brands make wooden knife sets which you assemble yourself.  These are great for little kids.  Tell them that if they use the wooden knife responsibly that they will be able to get a real one. I like [Nathan’s Knife Kit by CRKT](https://amzn.to/4csDPfn) because it folds and opens like a real knife. [Spyderco also makes a nice wooden knife set](https://amzn.to/498CEif) which comes in a cool metal tin. You might also **consider getting your child a folding saw** [like this one](https://amzn.to/49ffIxQ) instead.  A folding saw has the same allure and feel as carrying a pocket knife and kids can use them to saw branches, but they are much less likely to hurt themselves with one. [![wooden knife set by CRKT](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/nathans-knife.jpg "nathans knife - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/nathans-knife.jpg)*The CRKT wooden knife set* \[sta\_anchor id=”rules” /\] ## Rules for Kids and Pocket Knives ### There Must Be First Aid Supplies Available Don’t let your child use the knife anywhere that doesn’t have first aid supplies around.  It might sound extreme but it’s essential in teaching them to be responsible. On that note, *you* always pack a first aid kit with you when camping, hiking or hunting, right? If not, it’s time to lead by example. This doesn’t mean your child needs to lug around a full first aid kit whenever they go exploring in nature.  However, they should have their own mini kit which at least includes some band-aids. I always keep a few in my wallet. As mentioned before, knowing first aid is a prerequisite for being able to use a knife (especially unsupervised), so they should know how to do things like use their shirt to apply pressure to a large wound. **Also read: [Lightweight Outdoors First Aid Kit Checklist ](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-first-aid-kit-checklist/)**                                                               **Heading out soon?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup — print them before you go. **[                                                               Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** ### Only Supervised Use at First! I’ve heard countless stories that go like this: - Child gets a pocket knife for 10th birthday. - Goes up into their room with it. - Comes down 5 minutes later with a large cut on their hand. Seriously, even if you think your child is responsible, don’t let them use it on their own.  Their first few times using it should be supervised so you can make sure they are using good techniques. ### Give Them Soft Materials for Practicing In Scouts, kids first practice whittling on bars of soap.  This lets them get a feel for the knife and learn proper technique.  After your kid masters a bar of soap, move them to soft woods like basswood. Here are Scout [instructions for how to do a soap carving](https://scoutlife.org/hobbies-projects/projects/171279/how-to-make-a-soap-carving/) and there are some [free templates here](https://mizutamasoap.com/templates/templates.html). **Warning:** Avoid bars of soap with moisturizer in them. They are really slippery! Instead, choose hard bars of soap like Ivory. [![child practicing carving with a knife on soap](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/knife-soap-practice.jpg "knife soap practice - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/knife-soap-practice.jpg) ### Establish Safety Rules You’ll need to teach your child the basics of knife safety.  The Scouts have a [good PDF guide](https://cms.scouts.org.uk/media/3585/knife-safety-leader-resource.pdf) on the topic.  But you’ll also need to establish your own safety rules for the knife, such as: - **How they can use it.** Whittling may be allowed, for example, but throwing it at trees is off limits. - **Where they are allowed to take the knife.** Is it only for special occasions or can they bring it wherever they want (obviously not to school)? - **Whether they can show it to friends.** Just because your child is responsible, it doesn’t mean their friends are.  Do you want to deal with angry parents if another kid gets hurt with your child’s knife?  If your child will take it places with friends, consider talking to their parents first and discussing knife safety with those children. - **Who else can use it.** Maybe the rule is that they can show it to friends but not let anyone else use it.  Or maybe specific friends are allowed to use it. ## Yes, Kids Will Get Hurt with their Pocket Knives One last note: children will probably get hurt at some point with their knife.  But getting hurt is how we learn things in life.  So, don’t be scared of giving your child a knife as these lessons can teach them discipline and responsibility. ## Kids Knife FAQ #### What is the best first knife for a child? For most kids, a fixed-blade knife with a rounded tip is the best first knife, specifically the Morakniv Scout 39 Safe. Fixed blades are safer than folders because there’s no risk of the blade closing on fingers, and the rounded tip prevents accidental stabbing. If your child prefers a folding knife, the Opinel My First is a reliable budget option with a proper locking mechanism. Avoid cheap folding knives with slip-joint mechanisms — they’re the most common cause of knife injuries in kids. #### What age can kids start using a knife? Most kids can start practicing with a rounded blunt knife around age 4–5, cutting soft foods like bananas under supervision. A real pocket or fixed-blade knife is appropriate around age 8–10 for most children, but age is less important than readiness. A child is ready when they reliably follow rules, respect their belongings, have decent motor control, and know basic first aid. Some 8-year-olds aren’t ready; some 6-year-olds are. --- ###### Image credits: “[Whittling](https://www.flickr.com/photos/wittcogmbh/8615896472/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [wittco.gmbh](https://www.flickr.com/people/wittcogmbh/), “[February 28 – Whittling](https://www.flickr.com/photos/scotthamlin/5487017367/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [Scott Hamlin](https://www.flickr.com/people/scotthamlin/), “[The Nature of 100](https://www.flickr.com/photos/usfwspacific/7883294258/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [USFWS Pacific](https://www.flickr.com/people/usfwspacific/), “[First Knife](https://www.flickr.com/photos/belpo/5606106307/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [belpo](https://www.flickr.com/people/belpo/), “[Sharpening The Knife](https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnupate/478774894/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [pate](https://www.flickr.com/people/gnupate/), ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids --- ### [How to Camp on Uneven Ground: Tips That Actually Work](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-uneven-ground/) **Published:** August 15, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** If you are camping at a paid campground, the campsites are probably nice and level.  But, if you are wild camping or backpacking, you’ll quickly realize how difficult it can be to find level ground for pitching your tent. Worst of all, a campsite can appear to be level.  But, then you lay down to sleep only to realize the ground is actually sloped. Camping on a uneven ground can be an absolute nightmare.  Obviously it’s uncomfortable. And, because sleeping bags are slippery, you are almost guaranteed to slide off of your sleeping pad.  Since your sleeping pad is important for warmth, you might wake up at 4am somehow in the corner of the tent and shivering your butt off (speaking from experience here :)). After camping on a slanted surface multiple times, I’ve learned to use these tricks to make sure my campsite is actually flat and level.  It only takes an extra minute or two but really improves your camping experience.  And, if you really can’t find even ground, there are some tricks to make sleeping more comfortable. ## How to Find a Level Campsite for Pitching Your Tent ### 1. Lay On the Ground and Spread Your Arms Lay the tent on the ground where you are thinking of pitching it.  Then lay on top of this (my tent has a ground sheet, so I just lay on top of that). Spread your arms and legs out, almost like you are making a snow angel.  This will give you a feel for whether the ground is actually level.  It also helps you locate any annoying rocks/bumpy areas so you can level those out before pitching. ### 2. The Pole + Water Bottle Trick [![level campsite water bottle trick](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/level-campsite-water-bottle-trick.jpg "level campsite water bottle trick - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/level-campsite-water-bottle-trick.jpg) This method for finding a level campsite is good if you don’t feel like laying on the ground (such as if it’s raining).  You basically make a level tool out of your water bottle. - Put a trekking pole on the ground. - Put a water bottle right next to the trekking pole. - Look where the air bubble in the water bottle is. - If the bubble is in the middle of the water bottle, the ground is level. ## What If You Can’t Find a Level Campsite? A big mistake that a lot of campers make is sleeping with their head upwards.  While this is certainly better than sleeping with your head down the slope, it is not comfortable.  You’ll slowly slide down your sleeping pad the entire night. Instead, sleep *parallel* to the slope.  Use whatever you have (jacket, backpack, etc.) to prop up your sleeping pad so you end up with a flat sleeping surface. If you really have to sleep with your head upwards, then use this trick: - Roll up a shirt, jacket, etc. - Put the roll underneath your sleeping pad beneath your hip. - This creates a bump which prevents you from sliding down. Unfortunately, this trick only works well if you have a foam pad or a self-inflating pad.  It does not work well with thicker air pads and definitely doesn’t work with air mattresses. ## Camping on Uneven Ground FAQ #### Which direction should you sleep on a sloped campsite? Sleep parallel to the slope, not with your head uphill or downhill. Parallel is the most comfortable position because gravity isn’t constantly pulling you in one direction, and you won’t slide off your pad during the night. If sleeping parallel isn’t possible and you must sleep with your head uphill, roll a jacket or shirt and place it under your sleeping pad at hip level — the bump stops you from sliding down. This trick works best with foam or self-inflating pads, not thick air mattresses. --- ## Want this information in PRINTABLE format? **Then you need my Camping Cheat Sheets.** The manual has 42 pages crammed with illustrated guides about everything from campfire cooking to wilderness first aid. [![camping cheat sheets](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/interior-pages.jpg "interior pages - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets/guylines) [**Get Your Copy Here**](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [How Much Weight Can Kids Carry Hiking and Backpacking?](https://momgoescamping.com/how-much-weight-kids-carry-backpacking/) **Published:** January 28, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** One of the challenges of hiking or backpacking with children is that you end up carrying most (if not all) of their gear.  As soon as your kids get old enough, you might be eager to let them carry some of the weight.  But how much weight *can* kids carry?  And how much *should* they carry? ## Quick Answer: Preschool aged kids should only carry approximately 5% of their bodyweight while hiking.  As kids get older and in better condition, they can carry 10% to 15% of their bodyweight. However, it’s better to keep the pack even lighter so your kids don’t end up hating hiking. ## The % of Bodyweight Rule Most studies and experts on the topic find that kids should carry no more than 10-20% of their bodyweight in their packs.   But this advice is usually meant for *school*  backpacks and not hiking backpacks. Hiking requires carrying a backpack for hours at a time over uneven terrain.  A heavy hiking backpack will tire kids out quickly.  It could even compress their spine and lead to injury.   And, as one backpacking parent [said at Reddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/cecbpn/ul_backpack_for_an_8_year_old/), > *At a young, impressionable age, we want to be sure we don’t create opportunities for her to correlate backpacking with discomfort.* ## Pack Weight Guidelines By Age ### Ages 2 to 4: Less than 5% of Bodyweight When kids are this eager, they love to have their own backpack.  It makes them feel special and grown up.  But the novelty of carrying their own gear wears off quickly.   Don’t be surprised if after just 100 yards of walking, your kids are already begging you to carry their pack for them. It’s important to keep the backpack incredibly light (probably not more than a pound!): the heavier the pack is, the sooner they will get tired of it. On short hikes, I’ll only put fun items in my two-year old’s pack, such as a few snacks, binoculars and whatever toy she wanted to bring.  On longer backpacking trips, my three-year-old got a few light items like toilet paper or her fleece hoodie. **Tip:** Bring carabiners or ties so you can strap your kid’s pack to your backpack. This is a lot easier than carrying the pack in your hands.                                                                **Heading out soon?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup — print them before you go. **[                                                                 Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** ### Ages 4-7: 5% of Bodyweight If you are lucky, your 4-year old *might* carry their own pack for an entire hike. But most kids still can’t handle a pack for long at this age. My older daughter had me carrying her pack on backpacking trips (at least for part of the trek) until she was 6.   She admittedly is a bit lazy though. 🙂 If you keep the weight at 5% of their bodyweight (which is around 1.7-2.5lbs pack weight for most kids) they are less likely to complain.  And, if they do beg you to carry the pack for them, it won’t be too bulky to attach to your pack. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/isabel-carrying-hiking-backpack.jpg "isabel carrying hiking backpack - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/isabel-carrying-hiking-backpack.jpg)*My daughter at 4 years old with her 8L backpack I ended up carrying the pack for the last mile* ### Ages 7-10: 5-10% of Bodyweight By this age, some children are already very good hikers.  They might be able to carry 10% of their bodyweight on a long hike.  However, still pay attention to their posture as they hike.  If your kids are leaning forward due to the strain of the weight, the pack is probably too heavy. ### Ages 10-17: 10%-15% of Bodyweight Children’s spines grow drastically during this phase of their life.  For most girls, the growth spurt occurs between ages 10 and 12.  With boys, it’s 13 to 15 years old.  It’s important that they don’t strain their backs during these growth spurts.  Otherwise they could end up with spinal issues like scoliosis. So, even though your kids probably seem like they can “handle it” at this age, it’s still not smart to give them more than max 15% of their bodyweight to carry while hiking. ## What Size Hiking Pack Should Kids Use? How big of a hiking pack you can get for your kids will mostly depend on their torso length.  A 30L pack simply isn’t going to fit on a kid with a 11 inch torso.   Also pay attention to the shoulder strap width.  I’ve had packs which rubbed against my daughter’s neck because the straps were set too narrow. **Below are general guidelines on what size (in liters) a kid’s hiking pack should be.** - **2-4 years old:** Under 10L - **4-7 years old:** 10-20L - **7-10 years old:** 18-30L - **10-17 years old:** 30+L For really little kids, I like the [Deuter Kikki](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08HT4PYTG/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08HT4PYTG&linkId=4e03da99d25d36cc06b78739d4eeeb7a) (8L) pack, which is affordable, super cute and can be used as a school bag too. For elementary school aged kids, I like the [REI Tarn 18L kids pack](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F168502%2Frei-co-op-tarn-18-pack-kids), though my daughter would prefer a cuter pack. Once your kids get bigger, then invest in a good pack with an adjustable torso length so they can still use it as they grow.  I like [REI’s Tarn 40L kids pack](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F168253%2Frei-co-op-tarn-40-pack-kids) and the [Gregory Icarus Youth 40L pack](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F4GNHF5/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07F4GNHF5&linkId=3e2b28347aac369876028ff7f2362e7a). ![](//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&l=am2&o=1&a=B07F4GNHF5) ### **Tip:** Pick a backpack for your kid that also fits you.  After setting up camp on backpacking trips, I’ll use my daughter’s pack as our day pack. It’s not the best fit but works well enough for a day pack. ## What Gear to Put in a Child’s Backpack Having your kids carry their own pack (even if you eventually end up carrying it) is good training for them.  I’ve also found that kids are more likely to use items – like remembering to drink water or put on an extra clothing layer when cold – when those items are in their own pack. ### Little Kids On day hikes, I only put “fun” items in my little kid’s pack.  These include snacks, binoculars, specimen collection cups, and whatever stuffed animal she insisted on bringing. On backpacking trips when my daughter was very little, I would have her carry the lightweight but bulky items. This created more space in my pack (which was desperately needed since I was carrying all the food, tent, etc.!).  By 4 years old, my daughter usually carried her sleeping bag, the toilet paper, and her stuffed animal. ### Older Kids As your kids get older, you can give them more to carry and lighten your load.  At 9, my daughter would carry her own sleeping bag, some clothes, snacks, and water plus some lightweight bulky items like toilet paper. You might want to add some survival items to your kid’s pack too, just in case you get separated*.* For example, it’s smart for kids to always have a rain jacket, fire-starting kit, whistle, headlamp, snacks and water filter with them. ## Weigh the Pack! It’s very easy to overfill a child’s backpack with too much weight.  Ideally, you should weigh your kid’s pack so you know exactly how heavy it is. Don’t guesstimate! You want your kids to have a good time hiking and backpacking so they will want to do more of it. ## Kids Backpacking Weight FAQ #### How much should a child’s backpack weigh for hiking? As a general rule: under 5% of bodyweight for kids under 7 (roughly 1–2.5lbs for most kids that age), 5–10% for ages 7–10, and 10–15% for ages 10–17. These are maximum guidelines & lighter is always better. A 10-year-old who’s new to hiking should start at the lower end of their range, not the top. The real test is posture: if your kid is leaning forward to compensate for the pack, it’s too heavy. #### Should young kids carry their own pack even if they can’t handle it for the whole hike? Yes ,with low expectations. Give little kids a pack with almost nothing in it (a snack, a stuffy, their water bottle) so they feel involved and independent. Bring carabiners so you can clip their pack to yours when they inevitably ask you to carry it. The goal at young ages isn’t load distribution & it’s building the habit and pride of carrying their own gear. **How much weight do your kids carry backpacking?  Let us know in the comments.** --- ###### **Sources:**  <https://www.reddit.com/r/CampingGear/comments/agbpdw/youth_hiking_backpacks/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/6g6k0s/backpacking_with_my_4yr_old/> <https://www.sharecare.com/health/kids-teens-health/how-weight-student-carry-backpack> <https://www.outdoors.org/articles/amc-outdoors/how-heavy-should-my-childs-backpack-be> https://apnews.com/article/3e6ea8be177d4d169cfe347a83550df9 <https://www.backpacker.com/skills/how-far-can-kids-hike-how-much-can-they-carry/> <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-15/child-school-bag-should-weigh-10-per-cent-of-body-weight/12032558> <https://www.theweek.in/news/sci-tech/2019/07/04/New-study-reveals-how-much-weight-children-should-carry-in-school-bags.html> <https://jccponline.com/Backpacks.pdf> <https://atm.amegroups.com/article/view/34315/html> ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking **Tags:** backpacks, kids --- ### [Vegan Freeze-Dried Backpacking Meals List (Including Small, Local Brands)](https://momgoescamping.com/vegan-freeze-dried-meals/) **Published:** December 26, 2018 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Most freeze-dried foods companies skimp on meat, so you’ll find plenty of *vegetarian* freeze-dried meals for backpacking.  But if you are looking for *vegan* freeze-dried backpacking meals, you’ll find your options limited. Luckily, there are now a lot of smaller brands which make vegan freeze-dried meals — and a lot of them are healthy too.  Below I’ve compiled a list of vegan backpacking meals, including the smaller brands as well as some of the big names like Mountain  House. ## Consider Making Some of Your Own Backpacking Meals I dehydrate almost all of my backpacking meals.  This does take some time (but not as much as you’d think) and planning.  However, it is VERY cheap and I get to choose whatever the heck I want to eat. **Guess what? I wrote an eBook on how to dehydrate backpacking meals.  The book has over 50 recipes and all of the recipes are VEGAN!** The recipes are also lightweight, nutritious, and tasty. 🙂  Plus there’s tons of info on backpacking nutrition and meal planning. ![dehydrator backpacking recipes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/book-with-tablet.png "book with tablet - Mom Goes Camping") ### **Some of the recipes include:** - **Creamy cashew tomato sauce** - **Barley walnut risotto** - **Pumpkin quinoa chili** - **Red pepper crackers** - **Mashed potatoes with white bean gravy** - **Beetroot “salami”** **Just because you’re vegan, get my eBook now.** \*\*\*[**Buy it here**](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck) \*\*\* ![dehydrator backpacking recipes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/gallery.jpg "gallery - Mom Goes Camping") ## List of Vegan Freeze Dried Backpacking Meals \***I didn’t include any vegan trail breakfasts in the list** because I think they are a rip-off.  You can easily just buy freeze dried fruits in bulk and pack them with oats + vegan milk powder to make your own trail breakfasts for a fraction of the cost.  Here’s where you can find a [list of bulk freeze dried ingredients](https://momgoescamping.com/diy-freeze-dried-backpacking-mealss/). **\*\*REI gives 10% when you buy 8 or more backpacking meals. They have a search filter for “vegan”. [Shop REI meals here](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fc%2Fbackpacking-food).** **\*\*\*If you’d rather buy from smaller brands, check out the [vegan food for sale at Garage Grown Gear](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=8aa14f51-1fb2-4c30-b785-1c6c0a96cd31&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.garagegrowngear.com%2Fcollections%2Fultralight-backpacking-food%2Fcategory_vegan).** --- ### 1. Backpacker’s Pantry Vegan Meals **Best For:** When you want lots of calories for an affordable price This is one of the most popular brands of vegan backpacking food and happen to be affordable for the amount of food you get. They have two servings per package, which means you get a lot of calories for dinner.  The calorie density is pretty good and the meals are tasty (though some are admittedly a bit boring).  The main issue is that their sodium amount is very high. **Vegan meal options:** - **Three Sisters Stew** - **Chana masala** - **Pad thai** - **Louisiana red beans and rice** - **Kathmandu curry** - **Mango sticky rice** [**Buy Here at REI**](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fb%2Fbackpackers-pantry%2Fc%2Ffood%2Ff%2Ff-vegan%3Fir%3Dcategory%253Afood%26r%3Dc%253Bf%253Bb) --- ### 2. Good to-Go Vegan Meals **Best For:** When you want lots of veggies and don’t mind paying for them Good To-Go actually puts lots of veggies in their meals instead of just loading up on cheap carbs.  As  a result, the calorie density and price aren’t great. Some single serving pouches only have 350 calories. You need the pricier double-serving pouches to fill you up after a day of hiking. **Vegan meal options:** - **Marina with penne** - **Herbed mushroom risotto** - **Smoked three bean chili** - **Kale and white bean stew** - **Mexican quinoa bowl** - **Bibimbap** **Buy [at their website](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=a70df0eb-d3bd-4316-8a50-943a8d25c34b&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fgoodto-go.com%2Fcollections%2Fentrees%2Fvegan).  You can also buy them at [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fb%2Fgood-to-go%2Fc%2Ffood%2Ff%2Ff-vegan%3Fir%3Dcategory%253Afood%26r%3Dc%253Bf%253Bb).** --- ### 3. RightOnTrek Meals **Best For:** Their cool meal-planning tool makes it insanely easy to plan food for your trip These backpacking meals are actually dehydrated and not freeze-dried, but they are so good that I had to include them on this list anyway.  The brand also uses eco-friendly packaging.  They have several vegan meal options, all of which are packed with flavor and have a really good texture. What they have changes. RightOnTrek sells meals individually but you’ll get a better deal if you use their meal-planning tool. The tool gives you ALL the food you need per day — including vegan snacks — and calculates calories and weight for you.  Read my [full review of RightOnTrek](https://momgoescamping.com/rightontrek-review/) here. **Vegan meal options (dehydrated):** - **Shephard’s pie** - **Spicy peanut soup** - **General Tso’s mountain rice** - **Gado Gado noodles** **[Visit RightOnTrek here](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=bbc1a241-6b21-488b-a0f7-ef6725d20066&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Frightontrek.com%2F)** --- ### 4. Nomad Nutrition **Best For:** Supporting a small vegan-only brand Based out of Canada, this locally-run small company makes plant-based backpacking meals.  They use real ingredients and have some more interesting options (like the borscht).  There is only about 350 calories per pouch, so the meals do end up being pretty pricy.  They are also low protein, so you might want to supplement them with some of your own protein sources. **Vegan meal options (dehydrated):** - **Kathamandu** - **Indian red lentil stew** - **Irish shepherd’s pie** - **Ukranian borscht** - **Caribbean curry** - **Spanish paella** **[Buy Here at Garage Grown Gear](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=8aa14f51-1fb2-4c30-b785-1c6c0a96cd31&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.garagegrowngear.com%2Fcollections%2Fultralight-backpacking-food%2Fcategory_vegan%2Bbrand_nomad-nutrition) and [Here at REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fb%2Fnomad-nutrition%2Fc%2Fbackpacking-food%2Ff%2Ff-vegan%3Fir%3Dcategory%253Afood%26pagesize%3D90%26r%3Dcategory%253Afood%257Cbackpacking-food%253Bf%253Bb)** --- ### 5. Poe and Co Folk Food **Best for: Healthy, natural, and small company** This is a very small brand that currently only have a few meal options, but all of them are vegan. They are somewhat cheaper than other independent brands, too. - Quinoa Sweet Potato Skillet - Coconut Chickpea Stew - Black Garlic Ramen Bowl **[Buy at Garage Grown Gear](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=8aa14f51-1fb2-4c30-b785-1c6c0a96cd31&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.garagegrowngear.com%2Fcollections%2Fpoe-co-folk-foods)** **\*Let me know if I missed any vegan freeze-dried meals so I can add them to the list!** ## Tips for Improving Vegan Backpacking Meals In order to feel full and satiated (especially after a long day of hiking), a meal needs to have: 1. Protein *and* 2. Fat Unfortunately, many vegan freeze-dried meals are lacking both protein and fat. When there is protein, it is usually beans.   So, those vegan meals can get boring really quickly! **Some solutions to improve vegan backpacking meals:** - **Pack protein to add to the meal.** Textured vegetable protein or textured soy protein are great to add to meals because they are shelf stable and rehydrate very quickly.  You can add them to pretty much any pasta or rice meal for added protein.  Just add a bit more water. I also like to add nuts and seeds to some meals. - **Carry a bottle of olive oil:** This is what many hikers do in order to get more calories. Olive oil has a very high amount of calories per ounce.  Squirt a bunch of oil on each meal and it will instantly taste MUCH better. - **Bring LOTS of spices:** At high elevations our sense of taste changes (which is one reason airline food tastes so crappy). Compensate for this by bringing a container of salt, herbs, and spices.  I find that hot sauce makes any bland meal palatable. ## Make Your Own Vegan Freeze-Dried Trail Meals Instead Freeze-dried backpacking meals are super convenient, but they are also really expensive.  I don’t want to spend $8-$18 for a single meal – especially when it is just rice, beans, and a few veggies!. It’s actually pretty easy to make your own freeze-dried backpacking meals.  You basically just: 1. **Choose a quick-cooking carb as your base** 2. **Add freeze-dried fruits, veggies and proteins.** 3. **Add a spices and flavors** 4. **Put it all in a bag together.** 5. **To make, pour ingredients into your pot and cook.** Brands like [Natierra](https://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=superfoodjournal-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=5bb02f642aa4d8de84e56ea9db1bf2dc&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=grocery&keywords=Natierra) and [Mother Earth](https://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=2cc2b8edcc0ef6f8bbf705b6ba0a0a73&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=grocery&keywords=Mother%20Earth%20Freeze%20Dried) sell freeze-dried fruits and veggies. Emergency preparedness brands like [Valley Food Storage](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=754a66fc-7ace-4b3a-8c88-333523627173&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fvalleyfoodstorage.com%2F), [Augason Farms](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=f1d5c422-0a10-40cd-b38d-4c9d747bda06&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.augasonfarms.com%2FFood-Storage) and [The Ready Store](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=17b72de8-f51a-4562-ad6a-48591473f286&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thereadystore.com%2F) also have lots of good deals on freeze-dried foods. **For more detailed instructions, read this guide on [how to make freeze-dried trail meals](https://momgoescamping.com/diy-freeze-dried-backpacking-mealss/).** ![freeze dried bulk food](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/freeze-dried-mango-288x300.jpg "freeze dried mango - Mom Goes Camping") **\*And don’t forget about my vegan backpacking recipes book. You’ll have the most gourmet, healthy food on the trail.  🙂** **[Get it here](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck)** ![gourmet as heck book](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Gourmet-As-Heck-sidebar.jpg "Gourmet As Heck sidebar - Mom Goes Camping") ## Vegan Freeze-Dried Backpacking Meals FAQ #### Are freeze-dried backpacking meals actually vegan? Many freeze-dried meals labeled “vegetarian” still contain dairy or eggs, so always check the ingredients rather than relying on the label alone. The brands listed here have been verified as vegan, but formulations do change & it’s worth a quick ingredients check before buying, especially for Backpacker’s Pantry which makes both vegan and non-vegan versions of similar-sounding meals. #### Are vegan backpacking meals filling enough for long hiking days? They can be, but most commercial vegan freeze-dried meals fall short on protein and fat,which are what actually keep you full and fueled. The fix is to supplement: add textured vegetable protein or nuts to the meal for protein, and carry a small bottle of olive oil to add calories and fat. A 350-calorie single-serving pouch isn’t enough after a 15-mile day; always calculate your total daily calorie needs and plan accordingly. ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Backpacking, Camping & Backpacking Food **Tags:** backpacking food, freeze dried, freeze dried meals, meals, vegan --- ### [8 Most Important Tarp Knots to Know (with Diagrams)](https://momgoescamping.com/tarp-knots/) **Published:** March 17, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** If you don’t know the right knots for tying out a tarp, your tarp walls and roof will end up sagging.  Or the tarp might even collapse on you.  Luckily, there aren’t too many tarp knots you need to know.  I usually only use 3 knots to tie a tarp. However, if you know these 8 tarp knots, you will be able to pitch any tarp setup and in any conditions. --- ## Tarp Knots Infographic Keep scrolling for real-life pictures and more details about these tarp knots. [![tarp knots infographic](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/tarp-knots-infographic-and-uses-513x1024.jpg "tarp knots infographic and uses - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/tarp-knots-infographic-and-uses.jpg) --- Here is what the tarp knots look like when used in real life. In these setups, I used the running bowline, taut line hitch and prusik knots.  These are the three tarp knots that I use most often. [![Tarp knots labeled on A frame pitch](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/tarp-knots-labeled-1200-min.jpg "tarp knots labeled 1200-min - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/tarp-knots-labeled-1200-min.jpg) [![tarp knots labeled on Adirondack pitch](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/tarp-knots-labeled-2-min.jpg "tarp knots labeled 2-min - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/tarp-knots-labeled-2-min.jpg) **Also read:** - **[27 Tarp Shelter Setups for Camping (with Pictures and Instructions)](https://momgoescamping.com/tarp-shelters/)** - **[How to Tie Out a Tarp](https://momgoescamping.com/how-tie-out-tarp/)** --- **Want this information (and more!)** **in printable format?** **Get my Camping Cheat Sheets!** [![camping cheat sheets](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/interior-pages-1024x356.jpg "interior pages - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets) The 42-page guide covers everything you need to know to enjoy the outdoors with confidence. [**Get It Here for $9.99**](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets) --- ## How Much Rope Do You Need to Pitch a Tarp? For a tarp ridgeline, you will probably need at least 30 feet (10m) for a 10×10 tarp or 40 feet (12m) for a 10×15 tarp.   Depending on which setup you use, you may also need several shorter pieces of rope for the guylines. **Important:** I recommend getting REFLECTIVE paracord (like the one [by Werewolf](https://amzn.to/3T2Ayfg) shown below) so you don’t walk into your ridgeline or tie-out points at night!  Yes, I’m speaking from experience here 😀 ![Werevolves Reflective Paracord](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51UqEHAXKXL._SL500_.jpg) ## Most Important Tarp Knots ### 1. Running Bowline **Use for:** Tying first side of horizontal ridgeline There are a lot of knots that you can use for tying rope to a tree to make your ridgeline. However, the running bowline is considered best. It is a very secure knot, and the tension ends up on the knot (as opposed to the tree), so it doesn’t cut into trees and damage bark like with other tarp ridgeline knots (Leave No Trace!). This is why the running bowline is also used for [hanging a hammock](https://momgoescamping.com/hang-hammock/). However, the bowline isn’t adjustable, so the other side of your ridgeline needs to have a tautline hitch or you won’t be able to adjust the tension. If you know how to tie a bowline but not a running bowline, you can: Tie a bowline knot onto side A of the ridgeline rope, wrap side A around the tree, thread side B through the bowline’s loop, and pull to tighten.  However, it’s annoying to thread a long ridgeline through the loop. You risk your rope getting tangled, which is why it’s better to use the running bowline. #### Running Bowline Instructions: [![running bowline tarp knot instructions](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/running-bowline-tarp-knot.jpg "running bowline tarp knot - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/running-bowline-tarp-knot.jpg) ### 2. Tautline Hitch **Use for:** Tying ridgelines, attaching rope to tarp, guylines. The tautline hitch is arguably the most essential knot to know for tying a tarp. It’s possible to tie out all parts of a tarp with just this one knot (though it’s not always the best option). The reason is it is so great is because **it’s an adjustable knot.**  Once tied, you can slide the knot around.  This allows you to adjust the tension of the rope – something important for getting ridgelines and guylines taut. Without this knot, your tarp will likely sag. Alternatively, you can use other sliding tension knots such as the buntline hitch, truckers hitch, McCarthey hitch, or Magnus hitch. **![taut line hitch on tarp guylines](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/taut-line-hitch-on-tarp-guylines.jpg "taut line hitch on tarp guylines - Mom Goes Camping")** I also often use the tautline hitch to make tie-out points on tarps which don’t have grommets (or if the grommet broke or doesn’t have a grommet where I need it). Just wrap a smooth pebble in the tarp and tie the tautline hitch around it. [![tautline hitch over rock to make tie out point on tarp](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/tautline-hitch-over-rock-to-make-tie-out-point-on-tarp.jpg "tautline hitch over rock to make tie out point on tarp - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/tautline-hitch-over-rock-to-make-tie-out-point-on-tarp.jpg) #### **Taut Line Hitch Instructions:** [![tautline hitch instructions](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/tautline-hitch-instructions.jpg "tautline hitch instructions - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/tautline-hitch-instructions.jpg) ### 3. Prussik/Prusik Knot **Use for:** Tensioning tarp on ridgeline. A common problem with tarp setups is that the tarp gets loose on the area where it hangs over the ridgeline. The prussik knot — also called the prusik knot — solves this problem. #### Instructions: - Put the tarp over your ridgeline. Tie two prussik knots onto the ridgeline, one on each side of the tarp.  For diagonal ridgeline setups, you’ll only need one prussik knot. - Attach the prussik knot to the tarp. You can tie the end directly to a grommet or loop, or use a toggle stick. - Slide the prussik knots to tension the tarp on the ridgeline. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/prussik-knot-for-tying-a-tarp.jpg "prussik knot for tensioning tarp on ridgeline - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/prussik-knot-for-tying-a-tarp.jpg) #### **Using a Toggle Stick** In the diagram above, the prussik knot is closed with a fisherman’s bend. You can leave the ends open and tie the prussik knot directly to a tarp grommet or loop. However, this means you’ll have to untie two more knots when taking down your shelter.  A better option is to use a toggle stick, as shown below. To use a toggle stick, you’ll need a loop on your tarp. You can tie a loop to a grommet. Or, if your tarp doesn’t have any attachment points, you can make a tie-out point by wrapping a rock in the tarp with a tautline hitch, then tie a bowline in the hanging end (that’s what I did in the images below). [![prusik knot instructions for hanging a tarp](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/prusik-knot-instructions800-wide.jpg "prusik knot instructions800 wide - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/prusik-knot-instructions800-wide.jpg) ### 4. Bowline **Use for:** Tying guylines to tarp grommets or loops The bowline is called the “king of knots” because it creates such a secure knot.  When pitching a tarp, you can use the bowline to attach guylines to tarp grommets or loops. Since the bowline isn’t adjustable, the other end of the guyline (that gets staked out) will need to be a tautline hitch. #### **Instructions:** ![bowline instructions](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/bowline-instructions.jpg "bowline instructions - Mom Goes Camping") ### 5. Clove Hitch **Use for:** Tying guylines to tarp with a toggle stick The clove hitch is a very simple but surprisingly secure knot to make. When it is under tension, it won’t budge.  But, once not under tension anymore, it can be easily removed. It’s also often used for tying toggles when hammock camping.  You also need to know the clove hitch for some [bear bag hangs](https://momgoescamping.com/hang-food-bag/). #### Instructions: [![clove hitch tarp knot](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/clove-hitch-tarp-knot.jpg "clove hitch tarp knot - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/clove-hitch-tarp-knot.jpg) ### 6. Clove Hitch Over Stake **Use for:** Tying guylines to stakes This knot is also a clove hitch. However, this method of tying allows you to slip it over a fixed object, such as a stake. The clove hitch doesn’t slide like the tautline hitch, so you won’t be able to adjust the tension of your guylines. However, it has the benefit of being easy to release. #### Instructions: [![clove hitch over a stake](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/clove-hitch-over-a-stake.jpg "clove hitch over a stake - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/clove-hitch-over-a-stake.jpg) ### 7. Fisherman’s Bend **Use for:** Tying two ropes together to make one longer rope A “bend” is a type of knot used to tie two rope ends together.  You will often need to do this when hanging a tarp, such as if you need to tie two ropes together to make them longer. I personally like the fisherman’s bend best because it’s easy, even with gloves on. But there are plenty of other bend knots you could use. [![fishermans bend knot](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/fishermans-bend-knot.jpg "fishermans bend knot - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/fishermans-bend-knot.jpg) Alternatively, you can use the lap bend (below). It creates a larger knot, so might make your tarp bumpy. However, it is easier to untie. Just pull on end E to release the knot. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/lap-bend-instructions.jpg "lap bend instructions - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/lap-bend-instructions.jpg) ### 8. Sheet Bend **Use for:** Tying guylines to tarp with broken grommets or loop If the grommet or loop in your tarp corner breaks, you can use a sheet bend to attach a guyline to it. The knot is secure when under tension, but easily unties once the tension is released. Alternatively, use the “pebble trick” shown in #2. Wrap a smooth pebble into the tarp corner and tie a tautline hitch around it. [![sheet bend for tying tarp with broken grommet or loop](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/sheet-bend.jpg "sheet bend - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/sheet-bend.jpg) ## Bonus Tarp Knots: Lashings **Use for:** Tying poles to trees, lengthening poles Some tarp setups require poles. To tie poles to objects, you will need to use lashing knots.  I personally don’t use them for tarp shelters, but do love playing with lashing knots to make camp furniture out of branches. **There are three main lashings you’ll need to know for pitching tarps:** - **Round lashing:** Some tarp pitches (like the dining fly) require very long poles. If you can’t find poles or sticks long enough, you can use the round lashing to connect multiple poles into one longer one. - **Tripod lashing:** This is used to connect three poles into a tripod, which can then be used to support a ridgeline pole. - **Square lashing and diagonal lashing:** Use this lashing to tie poles together perpendicularly, such as if you want to tie a ridgepole between two trees. #### Round Lashing Instructions Start with a clove hitch around both poles. Wrap the rope several times around both poles. Then finish with another clove hitch. [![round lashing instructions](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/ROUND-LASHING-576x1024.jpg "ROUND LASHING - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/ROUND-LASHING.jpg) #### Tripod Lashing Instructions Start with a clove hitch on an outer pole. Wrap over-under the poles several times. Then wrap *vertically* around the rope between the outer poles two times, and another two times around the other outer poles. Finish with a clove hitch. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/tripod-lashing.jpg "tripod lashing - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/tripod-lashing.jpg) #### Square and Diagonal Lashing Instructions Use this wrapping method to tie a ridgepole to trees. You’ll need a lot of rope if the pole and tree are wide. [![lashing knots for tying tarp shelters](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/lashings-754x1024.jpg "lashings - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/lashings.jpg) --- **Don’t forget about my printable Camping Cheat Sheets** **Because you made it to the end of this post, I’ll even give you 50% off.** [![camping cheat sheets](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/interior-pages-1024x356.jpg "interior pages - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets) [**Get It Here.**](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets/) ## Tarp Knots FAQ #### What is the most important knot to know for tying a tarp? The tautline hitch is the single most essential tarp knot because it’s adjustable & once tied, you can slide it along the rope to tension or loosen your ridgeline and guylines without retying. Without an adjustable knot, you can’t get a tarp pulled taut enough to shed rain properly. If you only learn one tarp knot, make it the tautline hitch. Once you’re comfortable with that, add the running bowline for your ridgeline anchor and the prusik for tensioning the tarp on the ridgeline itself. ###### Image credits: “[Tarp Camp at Lindemann City, Chilkoot Tr](https://www.flickr.com/photos/umnak/2688387172/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [Umnak](https://www.flickr.com/people/umnak/) [TautlineHitch ABOK 1800](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:TautlineHitch-ABOK-1800.jpg), by David J. Fred, [Creative Commons](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Creative_Commons) [Attribution-Share Alike 2.5 Generic](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/deed.en) license. [Boeglynknoop](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Boeglynknoop.jpg) by [FFouche](https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:FFouche&action=edit&redlink=1), [Creative Commons](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Creative_Commons) [Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.en) license. [Lapp\_bend\_steps](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Lapp_bend_steps.png) by [Buz11](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Buz11), [Creative Commons](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Creative_Commons) [Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.en) license. ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [Camping in a Thunderstorm: What It's Like and How to Stay Safe](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-thunderstorm/) **Published:** August 28, 2019 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Over the years, I’ve camped in the rain many times (and written tips on [how to camp in the rain](https://momgoescamping.com/what-to-do-when-it-rains-when-camping/) here).  However, camping in a thunderstorm is a completely different story.  On one backpacking trip, it even HAILED for a period! ## Camping in Thunderstorms is Scary! I’m not going to lie: it is mildly terrifying to camp during thunderstorms.  Of course, I’m not allowed to show my fear because I camp with my young daughter.  I need to remain calm and composed so she doesn’t freak out. Being a parent is fun, eh? When a storm is brewing, the wind will build up around you.  The wind starts blowing hard against the tent. It gets under the tent rain fly and makes it flap back and forth violently.   It gets LOUD in the tent. As the thunderstorm approaches, the wind gets stronger.  Suddenly, you’ll start doubting your tent (I’m surprised how well [my cheap ultralight tent](https://momgoescamping.com/cheap-ultralight-tents/) has held up through multiple storms). As lightning and thunder blasts get closer together, you will know that the storm is right overhead. **Fun fact:** Count the time between the lightning and thunder.  For each 5 seconds between them, the storm is 1 mile away. When the storm is still far away, you’ll see the lightning first because light travels faster than sound. **That leads us to the question…** ## Is it safe to camp during a thunderstorm? Yes… And no. There is no shortage of facts that tell you things like, “the chance of getting struck by lightning is 1 in a million.” However, that doesn’t mean getting struck by lightning doesn’t happen.  In certain areas, the chance of getting hit by lightning is much higher. And camping in an open field with tent poles practically calling out to the lightning certainly doesn’t help the situation. ### In addition to lightning, there are also these risks of camping in a thunderstorm: - - **Widow-maker trees:** These are tree branches which fall down onto your tent and potentially kill you. Never pitch your tent under dead or weak branches! - **Tent being blown away:** Some tents aren’t very aerodynamic. The wind will catch these tents and blow them away like a kite.  WITH YOU INSIDE OF IT. - **Getting drenched:** Getting wet usually isn’t a big deal. But if you are wet and all your gear gets wet, you could end up [hypothermic](https://momgoescamping.com/hypothermia-treatment-wilderness/). ## Here’s How to Stay Safe when Camping during a Thunderstorm ### 1. Don’t Use a Tent with Metal Poles Tents don’t provide any protection from lightning.  Many tents today use plastic or carbon fiber poles, so these won’t “attract” lightning much more than the tent itself (carbon fiber is still a conductor). However, tents with aluminum or oldschool metal poles can really attract lightning. ### 2. Chose a Lightning-Safe Camping Spot Lightning will try to find the quickest way to the ground.  So, **it’s important that your tent isn’t the highest object in the area.** Nor do you want your tent to be right underneath a tall object (like a tree). You risk getting injured by side flash if the tree is hit.  Or, you might find yourself in peril if the struck tree bursts into flames.   As one backpacker [said](https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/2756/), > “Lightning really does cause tree bark / limbs to explode off and kill or injure from the shrapnel.” Ideally, you should pitch your tent in a low-lying area, but one that isn’t at risk of getting flooded.  If you are camping right on a ridgeline, your chances of getting struck by lightning increase drastically. ![lightning striking in desert](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/lightning-striking-640x360.jpg "lightning striking - Mom Goes Camping")*Lightning will usually find the closest way down*![tree struck by lightning](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/14172680574_5a60f2718f_z-1-640x480.jpg "tree struck by lightning - Mom Goes Camping")*A tree struck by lightning in the Badlands National Park* ### 3. Make Sure Your Tent is Staked for Wind You don’t want your tent to blow away in high winds.  Nor do you want part of the fly to come loose, causing massive amounts of water to get inside and soak your gear. To prevent this, you need to make sure you stake out all the guylines on your tent *and* stake them properly for wind.  The image below shows some methods (they also work for rocky and loose soil).  Adding an elastic shock cord prevents damage to your tent fly from it flapping around. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/stake-tent-for-wind.jpg "stake tent for wind - Mom Goes Camping") --- ### **Want this info in PRINTABLE format? Then check out my Camping Cheat Sheets.**  The 42-page illustrated guide covers everything you need to know to enjoy the outdoors safely and with confidence. Since camping in thunderstorms can be so scary, I’ll even give you a discount 🙂 [![camping cheat sheets](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/interior-pages-1024x356.jpg "interior pages - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets) [**Click here to get it!**](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets) --- ### 4. Get Ready *before* the Storm Arrives If you suspect that a thunderstorm is imminent, it’s time to take safety precautions! - - - **Get to lower ground, especially if you are above treeline or a on a ridge line.** - **Check your tent guylines and stakes.** - **Relocate your tent** if it’s not already in a lightning-safe place. - **Get your rain gear on.** \*Remember that weather can change VERY quickly, especially on mountains.  So always plan your trips as though there could be a thunderstorm. ### 5. Go to a Safe Shelter When the lightning and thunder are very close to each other, that means the storm is dangerously close.  If you have the option, you should go to a safe shelter. Remember to get to your safe shelter BEFORE the storm is right overhead.  You don’t want to touch metal objects like door handles while lightning is crashing down from above! Stay in your safe shelter for 30 minutes or until you can’t hear the thunder anymore.  1/3 of lightning fatalities occur because people left their shelters too soon. **Safe shelters include:** - - - **Your car:** Cars (not convertibles though) are safer than tents. It’s not because of the tires.  Rather, because the car acts as a Faraday cage, causing the electrical current to travel around the outside of the car but not get to the people inside.  Just don’t touch the door handles and keep your hands in your lap! - **A nearby building with electric or plumbing:** A bathroom at a campground is a good option. **UNSAFE shelters include:** - - - Picnic shelters - Outhouses - Gazebos \*These shelters are unsafe because there is no way to ground the electricity if the building gets hit. #### When There is No Safe Shelter Places like mountains above treeline are particularly dangerous during thunderstorms.  Your tent poles will be a significant conductor in this environment. The same goes with large, flat areas.  Your tent poles will be the most attractive thing around for lightning. **In these situations, the best thing to do is:** - - - **LEAVE YOUR TENT\*:** The tent will just attract lighting. Put on your waterproof gear and go to a lower area. - **Get off any ridges or high areas immediately.** - **Look for a dry ravine or depression.** - **Don’t stand next to tall trees or objects.** #### **\*There’s some debate as to whether you should leave your tent during a thunderstorm**. So long as you aren’t in a high-risk area (like above treeline) and don’t have those old metal poles, the risk inside your tent shouldn’t be more than outside the tent.  And obviously inside the tent will be much drier. On one occasion when camping in a thunderstorm with my daughter, we stayed in the tent.  It was already late at night and the spot was as safe as you could get: very low ravine and not under any tall trees. On another occasion, the spot was less-than-ideal.  So my daughter and I left the tent and watched the storm in our rain gear from a safer place. ![unsafe camping spot for lightning and wind](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/unsafe-lightning-camping-spot-640x427.jpg "unsafe lightning camping spot - Mom Goes Camping")*This camping spot looks beautiful but in a thunderstorm it would be vulnerable to wind and lightning*![unsafe spot for camping in thunderstorm](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/3724028394_c1c8efa325_z-1-640x480.jpg "unsafe spot for camping in thunderstorm - Mom Goes Camping")*This is also an unsafe spot for camping in a thunderstorm The tent will be a magnet for lightning in the open field* ### 6. Insulate Yourself from the Ground Most injuries from lightning are not direct hits.  Rather, it is *ground strike* that gets most people. The ground can conduct electricity more than 10 meters from where lightning struck.  Some people got injured from more than 30 meters away from where the lightning struck Absolutely do not lie down on the ground! This will expose your entire body to the ground. Ideally, you should get on a foam sleeping pad or other insulating material. As this mom who [survived a lightning strike while camping](http://crosstalk.cell.com/blog/how-my-family-survived-a-lightning-strike-and-what-we-learned) talks about, her infant was on a foam pad in the tent when the lightning struck camp.  The other members of the family (the ones touching the ground) got a big shock.  The baby was fine – even though areas of the tent where metal objects were had holes burned in them. ![lightning stool in Park Butte lookout](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/217461246_e5d9dc714e_z-640x480.jpg "217461246_e5d9dc714e_z - Mom Goes Camping") ### 7. If Camping in a Large Group, Spread Out If your tents are all grouped together, then they will really attract lightning.  But you should be out of your tents anyway if the storm is overhead and you are pitched in a bad spot. The real reason for spreading out is this: It will be less likely that *everyone* gets struck by lightning.  If only one person gets struck, then the others can administer first aid and get help. Further, there is less risk of the lightning jumping from one person to another if you are spread out. ## Other Random Tips for Camping in Thunder and Lightning Storms: - - - **Avoid Bell tents:** These have a pole in the middle which can act as a lighting rod. - **Don’t stand in water:** The water will conduct electricity. Wet vs. dry ground doesn’t make any difference for safety though. - **Hammocks aren’t safe:** They do protect against electric carried by the ground, but the tree can still get hit and burst into flames. - **No touching metal objects:** Even if it isn’t large enough to attract lightning, it will be an excellent conductor and could burn you. - **Crouch with your ankles together**: This position means that electrical current will stay in the ankles instead of going up one ankle, into the body, and exiting the other ankle. ## Camping in a Thunderstorm FAQ #### Is it safe to stay in your tent during a thunderstorm? It depends on where your tent is pitched. If you’re in a low-lying area away from tall trees, ridges, and open fields, staying in a properly staked tent is reasonably safe, modern tents with fiberglass or carbon fiber poles don’t attract lightning significantly more than the surrounding terrain. If you’re on a ridge, above treeline, or in an open field where your tent is one of the tallest objects around, get out and move to lower ground. The tent itself isn’t the danger, your location is. #### What’s the safest place to be during a thunderstorm while camping? In order of safety: a hard-topped vehicle (not a convertible) is the best option, it acts as a Faraday cage. A permanent building with plumbing or electrical wiring is also safe. If neither is available, a low-lying area away from tall trees and water, on an insulating foam pad, in the lightning crouch position (crouching on the balls of your feet with ankles together) is the best you can do in the open. **The bottom line:** Always set up camp as though the worst could happen.  There’s no need to panic: just play it safe.  If it does thunderstorm while camping, you’ll feel confident that you did everything possible to stay safe and have a good story to tell afterwards. ### **By the way, did you know I wrote a book?**  It’s all about how to make badass, ultralight, tasty backpacking meals on your dehydrator.  There’s also tons of info on how to plan backpacking meals too.  You can [get the book here](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck)! [![dehydrator backpacking recipes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/book-with-tablet.png "book with tablet - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmetasheck50off) And below is what some of my trail food looks like.  Get the book [here](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmetasheck50off). ![camping meals](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/gallery-min-640x647.jpg "gallery-min - Mom Goes Camping")**Happy camping!** --- ###### Resources: <https://outdoorpeople.org.uk/blogs/reviews_and_advice/is-it-safe-to-camp-in-a-thunderstorm> [https://canada.ca/en/environment-climate-change/services/lightning/safety/camping.html](https://www.canada.ca/en/environment-climate-change/services/lightning/safety/camping.html) <https://discovertheodds.com/what-are-the-odds-of-being-struck-by-lightning/> https://www.doomsdaymoose.com/5-tips-to-help-you-survive-a-thunderstorm-when-camping/ <https://www.weather.gov/safety/lightning-outdoors> <https://eo.ucar.edu/kids/dangerwx/tstorm6.htm> ###### Image credits: “[taco night](https://www.flickr.com/photos/dangerous-dan/22485219399/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Dangerous…Dan](https://www.flickr.com/people/dangerous-dan/) “[Milky Way from Evergreen Mountain Lookou](https://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelmattiphotography/9438432971/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Michael Matti](https://www.flickr.com/people/michaelmattiphotography/) “[The storm is coming 2…](https://www.flickr.com/photos/30395273@N02/3724028394/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [j\_arred](https://www.flickr.com/people/30395273@N02/) “[Lightning stool Park Butte lookout](https://www.flickr.com/photos/brewbooks/217461246/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [brewbooks](https://www.flickr.com/people/brewbooks/) “[Lightning Fire Juniper Badlands Flatiron](https://www.flickr.com/photos/blmoregon/14172680574/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [BLMOregon](https://www.flickr.com/people/blmoregon/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety **Tags:** lightning, rain, safety, thunderstorm --- ### [11 Camping Activities for Adults that Are Actually Fun (No Scavenger Hunts!)](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-activities-adults/) **Published:** January 7, 2025 **Author:** Diane **Content:** On most camping trips, I am perfectly content to sit around camp taking in the view. When camping with a group, though, it helps to have some activities. Otherwise, everyone just ends up sitting around drinking beer. Yes, I enjoy having a good beer as much as the next person, but I don’t consider it an “activity.” 🙂 ## Don’t Organize a Scavenger Hunt! A lot of websites recommend group activities like scavenger hunts for adults. Sorry, but I find that insanely cheesy. It’s something employees are forced to do on team building trips, not something they want to do on vacation. Other group games like “two truths and a lie,” “egg drop” and capture the flag are also **bad choices.** Why? Because they require the entire group to participate. In groups of 4 or more people, **it’s surprisingly difficult to rally the troops to do a group activity.** One person may be lounging in the hammock, two others engaged in conversation, and another doing yoga stretches.  It’s unrealistic to expect them to stop what they are doing to participate in a (cheesy) group activity. **Instead, the best camping activities for adults are ones that:** - **Make use of the outdoors.** The activity is more special if you can’t do at home or indoors. - **Require no planning.** Just leave the supplies sitting around and people will start playing spontaneously. - **Can be enjoyed by one person or the entire group.** Often, one person will start doing an activity, which causes other members of the group to join in. **Also read: [Camping Activities for Kids that Require Zero Planning](https://momgoescamping.com/activities-entertain-kids-camping/)** ## Best Camping Activities for Adults ### 1. Slack Line This one is absolutely fun and something people don’t get to do often in everyday life. Just set it up when you arrive at camp and people will gravitate to it when they get bored. There is always [one person](https://youtube.com/shorts/skIiF4lpLwc?si=ZPAIX0QWzBYXVCY8) in the group determined to master it by the end of the trip. ### 2. Climbing Rope Fun Hang a climbing rope off of a tree branch. Watch how people attempt to use it to scale the tree trunk, or do acrobatics while hanging off of it. Just make sure it is *climbing* rope that is actually made to support weight, and that you tie knots which won’t harm the tree. ### 3. Frisbee If you want to level up your Frisbee game, set up a “basket” for informal Frisbee golf. Or get a glow-in-the-dark Frisbee so you can play in the dark. [This one](https://amzn.to/4cWpRRM) is rechargeable. [![glow in the dark frisbee](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/glow-in-the-dark-frisbee.jpg "glow in the dark frisbee - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/glow-in-the-dark-frisbee.jpg) ### 4. Archery or Toy Guns No planning needed. One person inevitably picks up the bow or gun and starts shooting at a target. Then other group members join in, seeing how is the better shot. ### 5. Throwing Games Throwing games are always fun activities when camping. The most popular is “cornhole,” where you throw bean bags into a hole in a board.  Horseshoes is another good one. You can easily improvise DIY throwing games when camping. For example: - Bean bag toss tic-tac-toe: Draw a tic-tac-toe board in the dirt or mark it with sticks. Toss bean bags into the spaces. - Caveman bowling: Poke sticks vertically into the ground. Throw a rock at them, seeing who can knock over more sticks. ### 6. Bocce Bocce is more fun when camping because the uneven terrain creates obstacles. Alternatively, play “ladder ball.” It is easier to set up and take down than Bocce, and doesn’t require as much space. ### 7. Campfire Cooking Turn this into a proper activity by giving everyone a job to do. Just remember that campfire cooking can take a LONG time and the meal might not be done when you anticipated. Have snacks to eat while waiting for the meal to be finished. ### 8. Hacky Sack Have several of them so you can also use them for juggling practice or for cornhole. [![hacky sack camping activity](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/hacky-sack-camping-activity.jpg "hacky sack camping activity - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/hacky-sack-camping-activity.jpg) ### 9. Outdoor Guides Leave random outdoor guides sitting around (birding, plant ID, knot books, wilderness first aid…). When people get bored, they will pick up a guide and start flipping through it. Bonus points if you also leave some supplies sitting around. Suddenly, you’ve got people practicing knots or pretend splinting someone’s “broken” arm. ## Camping Activities for Adults FAQ ### What are the best activities to do camping with adults? The best adult camping activities are ones that don’t require the whole group to participate at the same time — slack lining, frisbee, bocce, throwing games, and card games work well because people can join in or drop out naturally. The key is leaving the equipment sitting out so activities start spontaneously rather than having to organize everyone. Avoid group activities that require full participation like scavenger hunts, which rarely work in practice when people are in different moods or at different energy levels. **Shameless self promotion….** [**My printable Camping Cheat Sheets**](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets) have tons of fun skills to try out (knots, first aid, shelters…). And they teach you skills to become a pro camper. 😀 **[Get Them Here](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/sample-pages-1024x427.jpg "sample pages - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/sample-pages.jpg) ### 10. Drawing Leave some notebooks and drawing supplies sitting out.  There will always be one artist in the group who feels inclined to draw. This leads to others joining in, often producing funny results. I’m also a big fan of the “[exquisite corpse” game](https://bld-in-mt.blogspot.com/2015/07/drawing-games-exquisite-corpse.html) when camping, where each person draws one part of the body. ### 11. Old School Board and Card Games These are great because everyone already knows how to play them.  My favorites for camping are: - Chess - Checkers - Mancala - Uno - Gin rummy - Poker (with candy) If you are going to bring newer games, make sure they are ones that are easy to learn (such as Dixie). Remember that you might not have internet service when camping, so you won’t be able to look up the rules! --- Image credits: “[Frisbee game](https://www.flickr.com/photos/schramroyal/5899139205/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [schramroyal](https://www.flickr.com/people/schramroyal/), “[Hacky Sack](https://www.flickr.com/photos/raptortheangel/187772732/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [Daveography.ca](https://www.flickr.com/people/raptortheangel/), “[Slack Line-24](https://www.flickr.com/photos/larryadventure/3999718891/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [larryadventure](https://www.flickr.com/people/larryadventure/), “[Glowing frisbee of awe](https://www.flickr.com/photos/billselak/1595856428/)” ([CC BY-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/2.0/)) by [Bill Selak](https://www.flickr.com/people/billselak/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids --- ### [List of Sleeping Bags with Pad Sleeves](https://momgoescamping.com/sleeping-bags-pad-sleeves/) **Published:** June 8, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** One cool sleeping bag feature is a *pad sleeve.* It’s a fabric slot sewn on the bottom of the sleeping bag.  You put your sleeping pad in the sleeve, making it nearly impossible to roll off your pad.  For side sleepers who switch sides, it also prevents your sleeping bag from getting all twisted up. Another cool benefit of pad sleeves is that they make packing up easier: keep the deflated pad in the sleeve and pack them up together.  You might need a larger stuff sack though. Unfortunately, not too many brands of sleeping bags have the pad sleeve feature.  Big Agnes is the only brand (that I’m aware of) which makes a [kids bag with a pad sleeve](https://amzn.to/3NKKwfO).   If you know of any more good sleeping bags with pad sleeves, tell us in the comments section below! **Also Read:** - [Ways to Stop Rolling Off Your Sleeping Bag](https://momgoescamping.com/kids-rolling-off-sleeping-pads-camping/) - [Sleeping Pad Is Slipping and Sliding in Tent](https://momgoescamping.com/sleeping-pad-sliding-in-tent/) A pad sleeve is a horizontal pocket sewn onto the bottom of the sleeping bag. You slide your sleeping pad into it and the bag stays put all night  no more waking up on the cold ground at 3am. It also keeps the bag from twisting up on side sleepers who switch positions. Another practical bonus: keep the deflated pad in the sleeve and pack them up together. You might need a slightly larger stuff sack, but it’s one less thing to lose. One important thing to know: most pad sleeve bags have **no insulation on the bottom** of the bag. The sleeping pad provides that insulation instead. This makes them lighter and more thermally efficient  but it means you must pair them with an appropriately rated pad. Don’t use a pad sleeve bag on a flimsy foam pad and expect to stay warm. --- ## Pad Sleeve vs. Pad Loops There are two ways sleeping bags attach to pads: **Pad sleeve** — a fabric tube that wraps around the entire pad. The most secure option. The pad slides fully inside the sleeve and can’t work loose no matter how much you toss and turn. This is what most people mean when they say “sleeping bag with pad sleeve.” **Pad loops** — straps on the bag that clip or connect to a separate strap around the pad. Lighter than a full sleeve, but less secure. The bag can still shift relative to the pad, especially for active sleepers. If you’re buying for kids or restless sleepers, go with a full sleeve. Pad loops are better suited to lightweight backpackers who want to shave grams. --- ## Kids’ Sleeping Bags with Pad Sleeves Every Big Agnes kids sleeping bag includes an integrated pad sleeve they’re the only major brand that does this across their entire kids’ line, which is a big reason I keep recommending them for families. **Big Agnes Wolverine 20 (Kids)** The main kids’ bag to know. Rated to 20°F, making it versatile across spring, summer, and fall. The pad sleeve fits pads of any length that are 20″ wide, and doubles as a stuff sack so it can never get lost. The adjustable hood and integrated pad sleeve are designed to keep kids warm throughout the night, with a draft tube and draft-blocking collar to seal out cold air. Sized for kids up to about 4’8″. [Search on Amazon →](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Big+Agnes+Wolverine+20+kids+sleeping+bag&tag=momgoescampin-20) **Big Agnes Lynx Pass (Kids)** The smaller sibling to the Wolverine — same pad sleeve system, sized for younger/smaller kids. Good for toddlers who’ve grown out of a sleep sack but aren’t ready for the Wolverine’s length. [Search on Amazon →](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Big+Agnes+Lynx+Pass+kids+sleeping+bag&tag=momgoescampin-20) --- ## Adult Sleeping Bags with Pad Sleeves ### Big Agnes Echo Park Series (Adults) The Echo Park is the flagship adult pad sleeve bag and the one most worth knowing about. It uses the Big Agnes Padlok™ system with a Cinch Pad Sleeve that accommodates pads 25″–30″ wide. The roomy fit works for campers up to 6’6″ and includes a Pillow Barn to keep your pillow in place, top corner hand pockets, and double zippers for venting. It comes in multiple temperature ratings: - **Echo Park 20°** — three-season workhorse, weighs around 4lb 16oz, stuff sack 10″ x 21″. Best for car camping and basecamp trips. [Search on Amazon →](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Big+Agnes+Echo+Park+20+sleeping+bag&tag=momgoescampin-20) - **Echo Park 0°** — for cold-weather camping. Same generous fit, heavier fill. [Search on Amazon →](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Big+Agnes+Echo+Park+0+sleeping+bag&tag=momgoescampin-20) One honest caveat from reviews: because the bottom is uninsulated, the Echo Park’s warmth depends entirely on using the pad sleeve as designed. Without a pad, or with a thin foam pad, you’ll feel cold from below. Pair it with a pad rated R-3 or higher for three-season use. ### Big Agnes Diamond Park Series (Down, Adults) Same roomy cut and Padlok system as the Echo Park but filled with down instead of synthetic. Lighter and more compressible a better choice for backpacking. More expensive. [Search on Amazon →](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Big+Agnes+Diamond+Park+sleeping+bag&tag=momgoescampin-20) ### NEMO Jazz 30 Double (Adult Couples) If you’re looking for a double bag with a pad sleeve, the NEMO Jazz 30 Double includes an integrated sleeping pad sleeve that anchors the bag in place and is sized to fit the NEMO Roamer Double Pad. The Jazz also has a removable washable sheet lining, zippers down both sides, and a BlanketFold draft collar  it genuinely sleeps like a bed. [Search on Amazon →](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=NEMO+Jazz+30+double+sleeping+bag&tag=momgoescampin-20) --- ## What Pad Do You Need? Since pad sleeve bags have no bottom insulation, your pad is doing double duty: cushioning and insulating. Use a pad that matches or exceeds the bag’s temperature rating. For the **Big Agnes kids bags** (Wolverine, Lynx Pass): fits any 20″-wide pad. The Big Agnes kids pads are designed to match. [Search kids sleeping pad on Amazon →](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=kids+sleeping+pad+20+inch&tag=momgoescampin-20) For the **Echo Park adults**: fits pads 25″–30″ wide. The Big Agnes Campmeister or Q-Core series are the obvious matches, but any wide rectangular pad in that range will work. --- ## Sleeping Bags with Pad Loops (Alternative) If you want pad attachment but prefer a lighter, more packable option, pad loops are worth considering. Instead of a full sleeve, these bags use integrated straps that connect to a separate strap cinched around your pad. Some bags with pad loops currently available: [Search sleeping bag with pad loops on Amazon →](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=sleeping+bag+pad+loops+strap&tag=momgoescampin-20) The setup is a bit more fiddly — you need to thread the strap around the pad first — but the bags are significantly lighter and more compressible than full sleeve bags. --- ## Sleeping Bags with Pad Sleeves FAQ ### Do I need a special sleeping pad for a pad sleeve bag? You need a pad that fits the sleeve dimensions. For Big Agnes kids bags that’s 20″ wide; for most adult Echo Park bags that’s 25″–30″ wide. Any pad in those dimensions works — it doesn’t have to be a Big Agnes pad, though their own pads are designed to match perfectly. ### Can I use a pad sleeve bag without a pad? Technically yes, but you’ll be cold — the bottom of the bag has no insulation. The pad is required for the system to work as rated. Don’t buy a pad sleeve bag if you plan to use it without a pad underneath. --- **Heading out soon?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup — print them before you go. **[Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** --- ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** sleeping bags --- ### [How to Go Camping in Serbia](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-go-camping-in-serbia/) **Published:** August 22, 2018 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I have lived in Serbia for about 12 years now.  The main reason I decided to move here is because I love the people – they know how to enjoy life.  Despite having soaring unemployment, the cafes are always full and the parks alive with young people drinking beer from 2-liter bottles with their friends. Another reason I love Serbia is because the country is beautiful.  There are some amazing national parks, plus tons of green nature spaces that are completely off the radar.  However, it can be a bit difficult to actually enjoy these green spaces since there isn’t a camping culture in Serbia like in other countries. I’ve gotten a few emails from travelers who want to go camping in Serbia.  So, I figured it is time to write this post answering their questions. ## Serbians Don’t Go Camping! Serbians make BBQs. They go hiking. They’ll even go rafting. But you won’t find many Serbians who go camping (even the same Serbians who go rafting and hiking!). Instead of camping, outdoorsy Serbians will join a hiking club.  Then they go on guided hikes with the club.  These hikes are organized very frequently, especially in the summer months. Usually a hike will go something like this: - Meet as a specific point very early in the morning (by *early*, I mean around 5 or 6am) - A bus takes the group to the location - Lunch at a local restaurant or picnic-style lunch - Hiking all day - Return to the bus and go back to meeting point, usually arriving back very late at night Sometimes the events will be multi-day with sleeping in cabins or a mountain home (more on these mountain homes below).  The price for joining the hikes is very reasonable – usually around 10-20e (includes transportation and guide).  With some events, you may need to pay the early fee to join the hiking club, which is usually around 5-10e. One good place to find out about these hiking events is the [Serbian mountaineering group on Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/groups/planinariRS/).  The posts are mostly in Serbian language though. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/lividaranje.jpg "lividaranje - Mom Goes Camping")*Hanging out with people during the multi day hiking event called Lividaranje Accommodation was in the mountain home seen in the background* >                                                  **Heading out soon?** > My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup — print them before you go. > >                                                      **Download here →** ## Campsites in Serbia Until recently, there were hardly any campsites in Serbia.  Now that Serbia has gotten popular with tourists, a lot more campsites have opened up. That still doesn’t mean you’ll find a lot of campsites in Serbia though! - You can see a list of Serbian campsites here: [here.](https://www.camping.info/sr/zemlja/srbija) - Or see a map of campsites in Serbia [here](https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?ll=44.25611214416311%2C20.954875953124997&spn=3.917157%2C8.55835&hl=en&t=h&msa=0&z=8&source=embed&ie=UTF8&mid=1GDiGuzbISUrycAqTERH_7nmgMtU). Aside from one in Bela Crkva, I have never been to any of these campsites, so I can’t speak to how the services are.  From what I’ve been told and seen online, most of the campsites are really terrible.  Many are just big parking lots for RVs and are terrible for tent camping. Some of the campsites are actually just the homes of villagers who have a lot of property.  It seems they figured out that camping is popular with those “weird” tourists and decided to call their yards a campsite.  One woman I talked to said she had a good experience in one of these villager-yard campsites – it’s just not what you’d expect from a typical campground. ### Wild Camping in Serbia is Easy and Wonderful! You can pretty much put up your tent anywhere in Serbia and wild camp.  (See this post for the [wild camping laws of every European country](https://momgoescamping.com/wild-camping-laws-europe/)). Obviously, there are some exceptions.  For example, it is *illegal* to camp in the beautiful Tara National Park. I suspect it is because there are some bears in the park, and most Serbians don’t respect nature enough to do things like [hang a critter and bear bag](https://momgoescamping.com/hang-food-bag/).  There aren’t many bears in Serbia but there are stray dogs who will eat your food! I did, however, set up a tent just outside of the Tara National Park boundaries and didn’t have any issues. Likewise, I’ve set up a tent in many wild places around Serbia. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/img_2240.jpg "img_2240 - Mom Goes Camping")*Camping at one of my favorite wild camping spots in Serbia at Crna Reka near Valjevo* **There are some things you need to know before wild camping in Serbia:** ### 1. Don’t expect port-a-potties on the trails In countries where there is a culture of camping, you’ll find potties on the trail for hikers and backpackers to use.  I have NEVER seen one of these in Serbia. Please be respectful and DIG A HOLE WHEN YOU GO TO THE BATHROOM!  I don’t want to see shit and toilet paper on the otherwise beautiful trail!!!! ### 2. Locals will be confused and may invite you home Since no one in Serbia goes camping, locals get confused when they see campers.  They assume that you must be too poor to pay for accommodation and invite you home.  When you are a woman camping with a small child, they get particularly confused and bring you food and water! This is one reason why I love Serbians, but it can be annoying when you try to explain that you *intentionally* are sleeping in a tent. ### 3. Trail maps are hard to find and trails aren’t well marked Another problem with wild camping in Serbia is that you will have a hard time finding trail maps – especially for areas which aren’t national parks. The website [Staze i Bogaze](http://www.stazeibogaze.info/srbija/) is your best resource for maps.  Unfortunately, these are usually satellite maps and not contour maps.  Relying on these is tricky! ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/serbia-trail-map-example.png "serbia trail map example - Mom Goes Camping")*This is what the trail maps for Serbia you find online look like 😮* ### 4. It helps to have a water filter On many trails in Serbia, you can find “izvor” (springs) which have water which is supposedly safe to drink. These springs are few and far between.  And, if you aren’t familiar with the area, you might not be able to find them!  It is best to carry all the water you need with you.  I use the Sawyer Mini water filter so I can filter water from any water source. Read [my review](https://momgoescamping.com/sawyer-mini-water-filter-review/) of it here. ## The Best Solution for Camping in Serbia: Planinarski Domovi So how do you go camping in Serbia?  The best solution is probably to go to a *planinarski dom* (which translates to “mountain home”). The various hiking/mountaineering clubs in Serbia each have their own mountain home.  Some of the mountain homes are really nice.  Others are incredibly basic.  Most of them do have electricity, potable water, and proper toilets/showers. ### How do you stay at a mountain home? Technically, you are supposed to be a member of a mountain club to stay at the homes.  However, I’ve stayed at several without being a member. It usually costs about 200-600 dinars per night for a bed in the home. There are usually around 20-30 beds in a home, with around 2-10 beds per room.  Rarely you’ll find a mountain home with a private room. You’ll need to bring your own food and probably a sleeping bag (wool blankets and sheets are sometimes provided). The mountain homes are taken care of by a “domar.”  The domar can help you with maps of the area and info about trails. Here’s the problem: Some mountain homes are not open year round. You will need to call the domar to see if the home is open and available (hiking clubs sometimes organize events and take up the entire home, so it might not be available). **You can find a map of planinarski domovi [here](https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1dcI1agY-09LR_gm2OyQizLJbCs8&ll=44.16404762559124%2C20.881420500000125&z=8).** **\*You can pitch your tent in front of a planinarski dom for free!** Even if the dom isn’t open, you can still pitch your tent in front – you just won’t have access to the water or bathroom inside. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/DSCF3066.jpg "DSCF3066 - Mom Goes Camping")*Cooking lunch inside the mountain home kitchen*![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/plan-dom-soba.jpg "plan dom soba - Mom Goes Camping")*This is what a bedroom in a mountain home looks like  This is the home on Jastrebac*  ## Getting Rescued in Serbia At Serbian National Parks, you won’t find those check-in/check-out services like in many other countries.  So, if you get lost or injured, you can’t expect a forest ranger to come looking for you! There is a nonprofit group that does rescues in Serbia though.  They are called [Gorska Sluzba Spasavanja](http://www.gss.rs/) (GSS).  Apparently, they help over 1,000 people on the ski slopes every year and do about 50 rescue interventions every year.  So, while I personally have never had any experiences with them (knock on wood), it seems like they know what they are doing. If you find yourself lost or in trouble, you can call them.  They do rescues all over Serbia, but have dedicated numbers for the most popular nature areas in Serbia. - Kopaonik: 063 466 466 - Stara planina: 063 466 461 - Zlatibor: 063 466 467 - Belgrade station: 063 466 465 - Kruševac station: 063 466 468 - Boljevac station: 063 466 463 - Niš station: 063 466 484 - Novi Sad station: 063 466 469 \*You can also just call the police, and they will contact GSS for you. ## Camping Stores in Serbia Since there isn’t much of a camping culture in Serbia, there aren’t many stores with camping gear.  It might be best to bring your gear from home.  If you do need something, you can check out these stores: - **Intersport:** This store has a lot of very affordable camping/hiking gear. I got my tent there for less than 50e and it has held up over many trips.  But it is also very heavy. - **Decathalon:** A huge mega store with lots of affordable camping gear. - **Iglu Sport:** This store has a lot more professional-level gear, and the price reflects it. The store is located in Belgrade city center. - **Sport Depot:** I love this store as it has tons of quality gear at very low prices.  They don’t keep much stuff in their actual store though. If you order things from their website, you may have to wait 1-2 months for it to arrive. - **Gora:** If you need really high quality gear (and are willing to pay for it), this store is the best option. Their website sucks but you can check out what sort of things they have [here](http://www.gora-i.com/).  The actual store is located in New Belgrade. - **Fishing Stores:** While there aren’t many campers in Serbia, there are lots of people who go fishing (mostly retired old men). You can find lots of fishing stores, and they often have gear like flashlights, tarps, rope, and bags. ## Bears and Other Wild Animals in Serbia There are bears in some parts of Serbia, especially in the Golija Mountain area.  I saw tons of tracks and scat while camping there, and a WOLF even walked right past me at night too! Some  other areas also have bears, including Tara and around Prijepolje.  The good news is that bears in Serbia aren’t habituated to people. In other words, they won’t intentionally come to your campsite looking for food. That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be careful though. Read: [Bear Safety When Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/bear-safety/) Also, you’ll want to carry bear spray. I bought mine at a [military shop called Snajper](https://www.snajper.com/proizvod/kks-biber-sprej-vesk-grizzly-magla-200ml/). Annoyingly, they don’t sell holsters for the spray (spray is useless if you can’t get it out on time!).  So, I had to make my own holster. See the [instructions here](https://momgoescamping.com/diy-bear-spray-holster/). In addition to bears, you may encounter - Wolves - Jackals (LOTS of these in Serbia but they usually aren’t a problem) - Wild boars As mentioned before, ALWAYS HANG YOUR FOOD IN A TREE FAR FROM CAMP so wild animals aren’t attracted to your campsite.  Definitely NEVER leave food in your tent!!! [![spring hiking bear tracks in snow](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/bear-tracks.jpg "spring hiking bear tracks in snow - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/bear-tracks.jpg)I saw TONS of bear tracks and scat when camping at Golija Also saw a wolf 2 meters from me that night ## Camping in Serbia FAQ #### Is wild camping legal in Serbia? Yes — you can pitch a tent in most places in Serbia without any issues. The main exception is inside national parks, where camping is illegal. Tara National Park in particular prohibits camping within its boundaries. Outside of protected areas, wild camping is widely tolerated and locals are generally friendly about it, though they may be puzzled by why you’d choose to sleep in a tent. #### What is a planinarski dom and how do I stay in one? A planinarski dom (mountain home) is a hiking club shelter found throughout Serbia’s mountain areas. They typically have basic dormitory beds, electricity, potable water, and bathrooms. Technically you need to be a hiking club member, but in practice many will let you stay as a visitor for around 200–600 dinars per night. You can also pitch your tent in front of any dom for free, even if the building itself is closed. Bring your own sleeping bag and food. ## Other Notes about Camping in Serbia - **Stray Dogs and Village Dogs!** Dogs are a big problem in Serbia.  I keep pepper spray on me in case of a dog attack. Also read: [How to deal with feral dog attacks](https://momgoescamping.com/feral-dog-attacks/) - **Beware of Vipers:** Serbia has two types of venomous snakes. The first is Vipera berus (in Serbian, šarka). The other is Vipera ammodytes (poskok).  They are especially found in Eastern Serbia in rocky, high areas. Be careful where you step! - **Everything You Carry In, You’ll Need to Carry Out!** Just because most local Serbians are not respectful of nature, it doesn’t mean you should be. Dig a hole when going to the bathroom. Carry all of your trash out.  And, if you want to be really nice, pick up any trash you find on the trails. 😉 ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/snake.jpg "snake - Mom Goes Camping")*Watch out for these guys*  ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Backpacking **Tags:** Serbia --- ### [Solved: Rain Boots Rubbing and Chafing Skin](https://momgoescamping.com/rain-boots-skin-chafing/) **Published:** February 14, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Waterproof rain boots are made out of a rigid material.  The friction of walking can make it rub against the skin, causing uncomfortable rashes or even cutting into the skin – but this problem can easily be solved. ## 1. Buy Boots with a Collar The upper outer edge of rain boots is called the collar.  Lots of cheap rain boots don’t have a collar at all; the plastic rub directly against your skin and causes chafing. Next time you buy rain boots, choose ones with a good collar.  It should be sewn in place and not have any weird inner seams which could rub against your legs. **Also read: [Best Rain Boots for Kids](https://momgoescamping.com/best-rain-boots-kids/)** ![rain boot collar prevent chafing](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/rain-boot-collar.jpg "rain boot collar - Mom Goes Camping") ## 2. Make a Boot Collar If you don’t want to buy new rain boots, you can easily make a collar to go on yours.  You just need a soft, flexible material to put over the boot edge. Here are some DIY collar options: - **Duct tape or Moleskin:** Just wrap the edge of the boots so it isn’t so sharp - **Tops of socks:** Cut the top off of socks. Glue or tape them inside the boots where the chafing is occurring. - **Long sock turned over boot:** Wear long, very stretchy socks. Pull the sock over boot to make a collar. It makes a weird gap though, so isn’t a good long-term solution. - **Turn down the top of the boot:** This only works if your rain boots are wide enough. It also helps shorten the boots and reduce wobbling at the top. ##                                   **Heading out soon?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup, print them before you go. ## **[                                      Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** ## 3. Buy Shorter Boots Rain boot chafing sometimes occurs when rain boots are too tall.  Tall boots have to bend more and can rub against the skin.  Try getting shorter rain boots that hit lower on your leg. ## 4. Choose a More Flexible Waterproof Boot Cheap rain boots are often made of a rigid plastic which doesn’t bend with the leg well. Other brands (including affordable ones) use more flexible materials which are less likely to chafe. If you aren’t puddle stomping, you probably don’t even need a 100% waterproof boot.  There are great ones that have rubber bottoms for water protection and a breathable Neoprene upper. ## 5. Tuck Pants Into Boots Rain boots aren’t meant to be worn with shorts.  You need to wear long pants with them. The pant leg gets tucked into the boots to prevent chafing.  It also fills the extra space in the boots so they don’t wobble around as much. Ideally you should wear tougher pants with rain boots. If it’s too warm for thick pants, then see #6. ## 6. Wear the Right Socks If you wear your boots in rain or mud often, you’ll want to invest in some good socks.  Yes, [they are actually worth it.](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-socks-worth-it/) Good socks will help keep your feet dry, let them breathe and prevent chafing. Rain boot socks need to be tall enough so no skin directly touches the inner boot. Wearing tall socks will create a layer between your skin and the rain boots to help prevent chafing. Wool socks are ideal: wool insulates even when wet but is breathable for warm weather wear.  In cold weather, wear two layers of socks: a thin synthetic liner sock and a thicker insulating sock on the outside. ## 7. Wear Rain Pants with Stirrup Straps If your kids’ rain boots are too big, use the stirrup straps on their rain pants. The stirrup straps hold the boots in place so they don’t wobble around as much.  This helps with the chafing too. **Also read:** - **[Best Rain Suits for Toddlers](https://momgoescamping.com/best-rain-suits-toddlers/)** - [**Best Rain Pants for Kids**](https://momgoescamping.com/best-kids-rain-pants/) ## 8. Store Rain Boots Open Find some plastic bottles, coffee tins, or other cylindrical item to fit your boots.  Put these in the boots before storing.  They will hold the boot tops open and help them keep their shape better. It will also help them dry so you don’t end up with [stinky rain boots. ](https://momgoescamping.com/rain-boots-stink/) ## 9. Cut Off Top Seam Some rain boots have a liner seam inside the upper edge.  The seam can rub against your legs and cause chafing.  One simple solution is to cut off the top of the boot.  Just be warned that the lining might start coming off once you cut the seam. ## Rain Boot Chafing FAQ: #### Why do rain boots cause chafing? Rain boots are made from rigid rubber or plastic that doesn’t flex the way your skin does. Every time you take a step, the top edge of the boot rubs against your leg in the same spot, which is exactly how blisters and rashes form. Cheap boots make this worse because they have no collar padding and use stiffer materials. The fix is almost always one of three things: better socks, a softer collar, or a more flexible boot. **Did you solve boot chafing?  Let us know in the comments section below.** --- ###### Sources: <https://forums.firehouse.com/forum/firefighting/firefighters-forum/66244-rubber-boot-chafing> <https://www.quora.com/So-I-get-this-rash-mark-from-my-wearing-my-rubber-boots-for-work-Can-t-think-of-any-ways-to-prevent-it-The-rash-line-goes-around-both-legs-Is-there-any-way-to-help-prevent-further-progression-of-the-rash> [ Puddles.](https://www.flickr.com/photos/audreyjm529/7539430312/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [audreyjm529](https://www.flickr.com/people/audreyjm529/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** boots, rain --- ### [Help! My Kids Keeps Rolling Off their Sleeping Pads When Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/kids-rolling-off-sleeping-pads-camping/) **Published:** June 7, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Both of my girls wriggle around the tent when sleeping.  I’ve woken up to kicks in the head only to find a kid completely backwards from how they started! I wouldn’t mind all their wriggling, expect that rolling off the sleeping pad can cause some issues when camping.  For starters, the pad can’t do its job of insulating you from the ground if you aren’t on it! When my kids end up against the tent walls, they also touch the fly – which can cause condensation and leaking problems. Over time, I’ve developed these methods help keep my kids on their pads while sleeping in the tent. **Also read:** - [How to Sleep in a Tent with a Baby](https://momgoescamping.com/sleep-tent-with-baby/) - [Minimalist Camping with Kids](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-with-kids/) - [Best Lightweight Sleeping Pads](https://momgoescamping.com/best-cheap-ultralight-backpacking-pads/) ## 1. Attach the Sleeping Bag to the Pad If the sleeping bag is connected to the pad, then  your kid won’t be able to roll off of it.  Your kid can still slide around in the tent, but at least the pad comes with them so they will be warm! **There are a couple of few that you can connect the bag and pad:** - **Sleeping bag with a pad sleeve:** The bag is literally attached to the pad so won’t come off of it. The only kids bags that I know of with this feature are the Big Agnes Little Red and Wolverine. The small fits a 20×48” pad in the sleeve and the larger fits any size pad. Available at [Amazon.](https://amzn.to/4oTfHcy) - **Pad loops:** Some sleeping bags have loops on the side. You can also sew them in yourself. Use a pad strap like this [mattress connector from Therm-a-Rest](https://www.amazon.com/Therm-Rest-Universal-Mattress-Coupling/dp/B00453R5ZG?&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=8bc95538685c36f988f4f83a1ecda80a&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) or these [Sea to Summit quick-release straps](https://www.amazon.com/Sea-Summit-Accessory-Straps-Release/dp/B004WBAEQI?th=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=34bb5096bacce4cce9f276a9cb9d5496&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl).  Put it around your pad and then use G-hooks to attach the loops to the strap. - **Put the pad inside the sleeping bag:** This is also smart if your kid’s sleeping bag is slightly too large. The pad fills the extra space so it’s easier to heat. It will be a snug fit in many sleeping bags though. ![Big Agnes kids sleeping bag with pad sleeve](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/pad-sleeve.jpg "pad sleeve - Mom Goes Camping")The Big Agnes kids sleeping bag with pad sleeve ## 2. Use a Pad with Bumpers Some inflatable pads have built-in bumpers (aka side rails).  The bumpers help keep you centered on your pad so you are less likely to roll off of it.  This only works with less-wriggly kids though. 🙂 ## 3. Improvise Bumpers You can also improvise bumpers by putting your backpack, shoes or other bulky items on each side of their sleeping pads.  And, even if the kids do end up off their pad, at least the backpack underneath them provides some insulation. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/bumper-tent.jpg "bumper tent - Mom Goes Camping")When its time to sleep Ill use the backpack as an improvised bumper ##                                       **Heading out soon?** My printable camping cheat sheets cover everything from packing lists to campsite setup — print them before you go.                                                                       **[Download here →](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** ## 4. Cover Entire Tent Floor with Pads This is what I started doing when camping with both my kids.  Since the entire tent floor is covered with pads, they are insulated no matter where they end up in the tent. I still use bumpers around the sides of the tent though.  Otherwise they could end up touching the outer fly and condensation occurs. **Pro Tip:** This works best if you all use the same inflatable pads. Then you can attach the pads with the [Sea to Summit straps](https://www.amazon.com/Sea-Summit-Accessory-Straps-Release/dp/B004WBAEQI?th=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=34bb5096bacce4cce9f276a9cb9d5496&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl).  If your bag has loops, then you can attach everyone’s sleeping bag in place too! ![tent floor covered with four sleeping pads](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/covering-tent-floor-with-pads.jpg "covering tent floor with pads - Mom Goes Camping") ## Kids Sleeping Pad FAQ #### Why do kids roll off sleeping pads when camping? Kids move a lot more in their sleep than adults, wriggling, flipping, and sliding without waking up. Inflatable sleeping pads make this worse because the slippery surface gives nothing for a sleeping bag to grip. The fix is either to connect the sleeping bag to the pad (so the pad moves with them), add bumpers on the sides, or cover the entire tent floor with pads so there’s nowhere to roll off to. ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** sleeping bags, sleeping pads --- ### [Ultralight Pumps for Sleeping Pads? 4 Options](https://momgoescamping.com/ultralight-sleeping-pad-pumps/) **Published:** February 9, 2024 **Author:** Diane **Content:** For years, I used a self-inflating sleeping pad or foam pad when backpacking.  When I finally switched over to an inflatable pad, I was surprised at how annoying it was to blow up. It also doesn’t help that I’m blowing up pads for myself *and* my kids.  But, even if I was only blowing up my own pad, it wouldn’t be fun to do every single night on a thru-hike.  Especially at really high elevations after you’ve already hiked all day long.  I’d honestly rather sleep on my uncomfortable thin foam pad than have to deal with this extra task. Apparently I’m not alone.  Several brands have started making battery-powered sleeping pad pumps for backpackers and the pumps are getting popular. Even some hardcore ultralight backpackers swear by these pumps as a “luxury item” that improves their trips.  They can also deflate pads so your morning pack-up is faster and you save space in  your pack. ## Other Reasons to Use a Pump Aside from making your backpacking trip easier, a pump doesn’t put moisture into your air pad like breath does.  That means your pad is less likely to get moldy or gross inside. There’s a good reason that manufacturers don’t make transparent-color air pads! This isn’t too much of an issue with most air pads.  But if you’ve got a down-insulated pad, you definitely shouldn’t breathe into it.  At the very least, use a stuff-sack type pump! [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/not-good-way-to-inflate-sleeping-pad.jpg "not good way to inflate sleeping pad - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/not-good-way-to-inflate-sleeping-pad.jpg)This is NOT  a good way to blow up an air mattress ## Random Note: The backpackers who laugh at you for carrying this “unnecessary” piece of gear are the same ones who annoyingly ask to borrow it the next day. A mini pump will only inflate 8 to 10 pads with one charge.  So, on multi-day trips, definitely say no! Otherwise your pump will run out of charge from filling other people’s pads.  Or, if you really want to be nice, tell them that they can use the pump but only if they charge it from THEIR power bank! ## Stuff Sack Pumps vs. Battery Pumps If weight is your primary concern, you still can’t beat a stuff sack pump.  The Pumphouse Ultra by Big Agnes, for example, weighs 2.9oz.  This is on par with a mini battery-powered pump, but it also doubles as a dry bag. It takes a bit of practice and gear coordination (you don’t want to have to empty dirty socks or something from the stuff sack each time you need to blow up your mattress), but those stuff sack pumps are really useful.  You can even blow up an entire raft with one. But it’s still not as easy as using a battery powered pump.  So, if you are often exhausted when you reach camp and want to make life easier, the extra weight of the pump is worth it. [![inflating boat with stuff sack pump](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/inflating-boat-with-stuff-sack-pump.jpg "inflating boat with stuff sack pump - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/inflating-boat-with-stuff-sack-pump.jpg) ## Best Battery-Powered Backpacking Pumps There still aren’t too many options when it comes to UL backpacking pumps.  Here they are. Of these, I’d only recommend the Flextail pumps. ### Flextail Gear Pumps At the moment, Flextail is the best brand when it comes to ultralight air pumps.  Their products are the only ones which hold up well without the fan dying. Their newest and lightest option is the Flextail Zero.  It advertises itself as 1.2oz, but that’s the weight without the battery.  With the battery, it’s closer to 2oz.  The battery isn’t integrated so you have to remove it to charge it.  Because of this, their Tiny Pump is probably the best option. They also make several “Max” pumps which are heavier.  However, these pumps also serve as a power bank.  So, if you only need to charge a phone or headlamp once during your trip, these would be a good option since you could leave your power bank at home. [**Find Flextail Pumps Here**](https://amzn.to/3WOPBLx) \[table id=94 /\] And here’s a video from the brand. --- ### Therm-a-Rest NeoAir Micro (NOT Recommended) [![NeoAir micro pump](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/NeoAir®-Micro-Pump-Sleeping-Pad-Air-Pumps-Therm-a-Rest®.jpg "NeoAir micro pump - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/NeoAir®-Micro-Pump-Sleeping-Pad-Air-Pumps-Therm-a-Rest®.jpg) I really like Therm-a-Rest gear but this is *not* one of their better products.   The pump has a lot of issues, including: - Takes a very long time to inflate pads - Loud - Easy to turn on accidentally The pump isn’t cheap, so I’d expect something which would actually hold up and do what it’s supposed to. **[See It Here](https://amzn.to/3VdSUuN)** --- ### Exped Widget Pump (NOT Recommended) [![exped widget air mattress pump](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/Widget-Pump-EXPED-USA.jpg "Widget-Pump-EXPED-USA - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/Widget-Pump-EXPED-USA.jpg) This pump is also not recommended. I might be okay with the fact that this pump weighs 7oz since it serves as a power bank.  However, the pump doesn’t work well.  It takes a very long time to charge and there are lots of reports of the fan breaking quickly. [**See It Here**](https://amzn.to/4bMopBx) ### Aerogogo Giga Pumps [![aerogogo gigapump](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/gigapump.jpg "gigapump - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/gigapump.jpg) The brand Aerogogo makes a line of “[Giga Pumps](https://amzn.to/4buqRNI)” which are very similar to the Flextail pumps.  But they are a generic Chinese brand and even their website has a lot of spelling errors and inconsistencies about weight, so I doubt they make the most reliable products!  They currently aren’t cheaper than the Flextail pumps, so try them at your own risk. ## Sleeping Pad Pump FAQ: #### Can I use any pump to inflate a sleeping pad? No — sleeping pads use specific valve sizes that aren’t compatible with standard ball or mattress pumps. The Flextail pumps come with adapters for the most common valve types (flat round, Therm-a-Rest twist, and standard open valves). If you have an unusual valve, check compatibility before buying. When in doubt, the stuff sack pump method works with almost any sleeping pad since it creates pressure without needing a specific fitting. ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [How to Carry Peanut Butter When Hiking or Backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-carry-peanut-butter-when-hiking-or-backpacking/) **Published:** October 17, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Peanut butter is a backpacking staple because it is cheap, easy to find, doesn’t go bad and incredibly calorie-dense.  And there are actually a lot of [trail recipes you can make with peanut butter](https://momgoescamping.com/peanut-nut-butter-backpacking-recipe-ideas/) (for example, I like adding it to ramen). But carrying peanut butter on the trail can be tricky.   Here are some of the best solutions, as recommended by backpackers. **Tips:** - Heat up the PNB in the microwave before putting it into tubes or other containers. This makes it runnier and you’ll be able to get it into the tube easier! - To clean reusable PNB containers, soak them in hot water or (if the material is microwave-safe) put them in the microwave for a bit.  Warm peanut butter is easier to remove!!! ## 1. In the Jar If you are going on a longer hike, then bringing an entire (plastic) jar of peanut butter might make sense.  The large opening makes it easy to scoop peanut butter out. As the jar empties, you can add things like chocolate chips or Fritos right into the jar. Eat with a spoon for a delicious, calorie-dense snack. **Note:** If you use natural peanut butter, you might have issues with the oil leaking out of the jar! ## 2. Squeezable Pouches of PNB Lots of brands now sell peanut butter in squeeze pouches.  These are easier to pack than jars.  If you don’t need the entire pouch, just squeeze out the amount you don’t need.  However, a lot of people complain that it’s hard to get all of the PNB out of the pouches. A good amount always ends up stuck inside.  You have to cut open the pouch and scrape it with your spoon — which ends up messy and annoying. ## 3. Individual PNB Packets This makes it incredibly convenient to add peanut butter to meals.  The packets are sturdy and won’t burst open in your pack.  It’s also pretty easy to squeeze every last bit of PNB out of the pack.   The downside? That’s a lot of plastic waste. ## 4. Plastic Baggies This is the low-budget and simplest method of carrying PNB when hiking.  However, you run the risk of the bag accidentally opening up.  It’s also really difficult to get all the peanut butter out of the bag.  Yes, you can squeeze the baggie or cut a small hole in one end – but it ends up all over your fingers. ## 5. Coghlan’s Squeeze Tubes The brand Coghlans makes refillable squeeze tubes specifically designed for backpacking.  Unlike most other refillable tubes, they open up completely on the bottom for easier filling. They have a sliding clip on the end for getting the contents out. Backpackers seem to either love or hate these tubes.  Natural peanut butter might leak a bit from these.  And the sliding clip will break long before the tube develops holes in it.  I recommend keeping the tubes in a zip-lock bag in case the tube fails on you!!! \*I do NOT recommend getting refillable squeeze *bottles*.  It’s really difficult to get the last bits of PNB from them.  Go with softer, more flexible tubes like the ones by Coghlan’s.[![pnb tubes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/pnb-tubes.jpg "pnb tubes - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/pnb-tubes.jpg) Available at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3s1s3mb) ## 6. Refillable Baby Food Pouches These are cool solutions.  Unlike tubes (which you fill through the cap), the pouches open at the bottom so they are easy to fill.  When the pouch is almost empty, you can open the bottom and scoop out every last bit of PNB with a spoon.  The bottom opening also makes them easier to clean out when you get back home.  There’s a double-zipper closure to prevent leaking.  I’d still put them inside another bag in case they burst open (and keep on the *top* of your pack not the bottom!), but the closure is pretty secure. The [pouches by Simple Modern](https://amzn.to/3SfFTMA) are popular and seem to hold up well.![](https://ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&language=en_US&l=li3&o=1&a=B08SRSWFY6) ## 7.  Powdered Peanut Butter Peanut butter powder is made by  removing the oils from peanut butter.  This makes it a lot easier to transport. The problem is that you’ll need to mix the oil back into the PNB powder before eating. I often carry a bottle of olive oil with me when hiking (to add to pasta, couscous, etc.), so this isn’t an issue.  But mixing oil into the powder means an extra step for meal preparation. Because of this, I wouldn’t recommend PNB powder for backpacking *lunches.* It would be fine for dinner meals.  For example, when making [Thai ramen](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-recipe-thai-ramen-with-pnb), I could just mix some PNB powder and oil directly into the pot. Note that some brands of PNB powder have weird additives.  [This brand](https://amzn.to/4gCBrac) is okay.[](https://www.amazon.com/BetterBody-PBfit-Powdered-Gluten-Free-Protein/dp/B08H56G22H?&linkCode=li3&tag=mgc-power-20&linkId=2c47494f988e66deab07a96cb5ec702c&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_il)![](https://ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=mgc-power-20&language=en_US&l=li2&o=1&a=B08H56G22H) ## 8. DIY Individual PNB Packets with a Vacuum Sealer Here’s a cool trick I read in a backpacker forum.  You basically use a vacuum sealer to create your own individual packets of peanut butter. - Get some “continuous bags” for your Food Saver (or whatever vacuum sealer you use) - Seal one end - Turn the bag sideways. - Seal at several places to make channels. - Load in your PNB - Seal the top of the channels you made. - To use, just cut a small hole in the end of one of the channels. ## Peanut Butter Hiking FAQ: ### Does peanut butter go bad on the trail? ### Regular peanut butter is shelf-stable and won’t go bad on a typical backpacking trip — even in heat. Natural peanut butter is trickier: the separated oil can leak out of jars, squeeze pouches, and tubes. If you use natural PNB, always double-bag your container and store it upright. Powdered peanut butter avoids this problem entirely since the oils have been removed. **Do you have a good lightweight solution for carrying PNB when backpacking? Let us know in the comments section below!** ### **Not sure what to eat on the trail?  Check out my eBook.** It’s got over 50 calorie-dense, healthy backpacking dehydrator recipes, plus tons of info on planning backpacking meals. **[Get it here](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck)** ![dehydrator backpacking recipes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/book-with-tablet.png "book with tablet - Mom Goes Camping") --- Sources: <https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/72561/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/kjgtuf/ul_peanut_butter_jarstorage/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/x9q2s7/how_do_you_store_your_peanut_butter/> Image credit: “[peanut butter – the perfect hiking food](https://www.flickr.com/photos/rickmccharles/6128545619/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Rick McCharles](https://www.flickr.com/people/rickmccharles/), ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Food --- ### [Vik 1 Person Tent Review](https://momgoescamping.com/vik-1-person-tent-review/) **Published:** September 13, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Naturehike is a brand known for making really affordable lightweight tents.  They aren’t quite “ultralight” – but pretty damn close.  I already have their [Cloud Up 2 tent](https://momgoescamping.com/naturehike-cloudup-2-review/), which I liked so much that I got the [Cloud Up 3p](https://momgoescamping.com/naturehike-cloud-up-3p/), too. I use those for backpacking.  I also have their [P-Series 4P](https://momgoescamping.com/naturehike-p-series-4p-tent-review/) tent for camping. I decided it was time to get a 1P tent for those rare times I go solo backpacking without the kids.  Also, now that my older kid is a tween (and gets bored camping with just me), we bring one of her friends camping with us.  Having a 1P tent means I can sleep alone and the kids get the 2P tent. **Full disclosure:** Naturehike sent me the Vik 1P tent for free to test out (I paid for their other three tents myself :)). [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/vik-1p-tent-and-cloud-up-2-tent.jpg "vik 1p tent and cloud up 2 tent - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/vik-1p-tent-and-cloud-up-2-tent.jpg)The Vik 1P right next to the [Cloud Up 2P tent](https://momgoescamping.com/naturehike-cloudup-2-review/) left both by Naturehike ## **Quick Verdict:** A decent cheap, ultralight tent for overnight backpacking trips or bikepacking. But, because of the condensation issues with single-wall tents, you are better off with a double-wall tent for multi-night trips. ## What Is the Vik Tent? The Naturehike Vik 1P tent is an affordable lightweight backpacking tent which has a surprising amount of storage.  Another thing to love is how quick and easy it is to pitch, which would make it great for thru-hikers, cyclists or anyone who changes campsite each day. You’ll also love how roomy the Vik tent is because the vertical side walls give you lots of interior space and headroom.  People over 6’ tall might end up with their feet on the walls though, which could create condensation issues. If you don’t mind carrying around an extra 270g/9.5oz, I would go ahead and get the Vik 2P tent.  It’s just as easy to pitch but gives you more storage and access. **Get the Vik tent [here on Amazon](https://amzn.to/3QGTL1x)** ![Naturehike Vik 1P tent from all sides](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/all-sides-of-vik-1p-tent-1024x749.jpg "all sides of vik 1p tent - Mom Goes Camping") ## Vik Tent Specs: - **Weight:** 2.3lbs (1P), 2.4lbs (1P with skirt), 3lbs (double) - **Footprint:** 210x85cm (1P), 210x113cm (2P) - **Max Headroom:** 37.4″/95cm (1P), 35.4″/90cm (2P) - **Packed Size:** 18.1×6.3”(1P), 18.5×6.3” (2P)” - **Floor material:** 20D nylon plaid fabric (silicone coating) - **Tent material:** 15D nylon plaid (silicone coating) - **Buy At:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3QGTL1x) ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/unboxing-vik-1p-tent.jpg "unboxing vik 1p tent - Mom Goes Camping")*Everything that is included with the Vik 1P tent* ## Naturehike Vik 1P Tent Weight Naturehike lists the weight of the Vik 1P skirted tent *without* the groundsheet at 2.4lbs.  I weighed the tent when I got it and it came in at 2.6lbs (1.193kg).  With the groundsheet, the tent weighed 2.9lbs (1.355kg).  While not *ultralight*, this is still a very lightweight backpacking tent. This is a fairly significant difference in actual weight vs. listed weight.  However, it’s kind of expected with a cheap backpacking tent.  You can reduce the weight a bit by removing the labels and extra stakes. [![naturehike vik 1p tent weight without groundsheet](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/naturehike-vik-1p-tent-weight-without-groundsheet.jpg "naturehike vik 1p tent weight without groundsheet - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/naturehike-vik-1p-tent-weight-without-groundsheet.jpg) [![naturehike vik 1p tent weight with groundsheet](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/naturehike-vik-1p-tent-weight.jpg "naturehike vik 1p tent weight - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/naturehike-vik-1p-tent-weight.jpg) ## Note about the Single-Wall Tents and Condensation The Vik tent is single-wall.  You might consider it a “hybrid” tent because the two storage vestibules create a second layer on the sides. Condensation is almost always an issue with single-wall tents, especially in very cold, rainy weather. Naturehike added vents to the Vik tent to prevent condensation.  The lack of bathtub floor also gives you some airflow.  But you can still end up with condensation.  It’s not a problem with the tent itself, but rather with the type. Because of this, the Vik tent is best for backpacking in low-humidity climates like California.  In humid climates, make sure you know how to select a campsite to minimize condensation and think twice before using a down sleeping bag in it! **Also read: [How to Solve Tent Condensation](https://momgoescamping.com/tent-condensation/)** [![Naturehike Vik 1P tent condensation](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/tent-condensation.jpg "tent condensation - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/tent-condensation.jpg)*I tested the Vik 1P camping at the bottom of a gorge in 40F temps and there was definitely condensation It formed droplets when I touched the walls* ## What I Like about the Vik 1P Tent ### Lightweight At under 3lbs with the groundsheet, the Vik 1P tent is very lightweight for a freestanding tent – especially considering how much space it has.  If you want to get any lighter, you will either need to spend a fortune or start using a [trekking pole tent](https://momgoescamping.com/best-trekking-pole-tents/) (which are a pain to pitch!). ### Incredibly Affordable Compared to big brand names, Naturehike tents are *very* affordable.  Comparable tents in this weight class cost 3x to 5x more.  Unless you switch to a tarp or non-freestanding tent, you really can’t find ultralight tents cheaper than from Naturehike. **Check the price [here on Amazon](https://amzn.to/3QGTL1x)** ### Roomy Interior This is my first 1P tent, so I was expecting it to be cramped.  But the Vik 1P actually feels bigger than my CloudUp 2P tent. The roominess is because of the ceiling pole.  It creates vertical walls, so the headroom is consistent from Left to Right throughout the tent.  I could actually sit up in the tent, which made getting dressed inside easier.  Bear in mind that I’m only 5’1” tall though, so most people will still need to slouch inside. At 33.5″/85cm, the Vik 1P tent is pretty wide.  A plus-size backpacker could easily fit on an extra wide-mattress.  I feel like I could even squeeze in with my 4 year old (not that I’d necessarily want to though :)) [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/roominess-extending-my-legs.jpg "roominess extending my legs - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/roominess-extending-my-legs.jpg)Me extending my legs out the front door of the Vik tent I can sit up in the tent too ### Hybrid Design While technically a single-wall tent, the Vik tent incorporates a hybrid design: the two vestibules act like an extra layer.  Because the vestibules are so big, it’s almost impossible to accidentally touch the side walls – which would cause condensation. ### Decent Materials The Vik 1P tent is made out of the same floor and similar materials as my Naturehike CloudUp 2.   When I first got that tent, I was scared that it wouldn’t hold up.  But I’ve been surprisingly pleased at how durable it is.  Its withstood a lot of abuse from my kids! Do keep in mind that this is a lightweight tent: the materials are flimsy!  You definitely need to use a groundsheet to protect the floor. And be careful when hammering in stakes as they are impossible to straighten if bent. ### Lots of Storage There are two vestibules on the Vik 1P tent: a larger vestibule at the entrance and a smaller vestibule on the opposite side.  The larger vestibule easily fits my 55L pack and boots with room to spare.  The smaller vestibule can only be accessed from the inside, and the zipper is pretty small.  But it was good for keeping my photo gear, or anything else you don’t want trampled. \*The 2P version of the Vik tent has two full-size vestibules and entrances. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/other-storage-vestibule.jpg "other storage vestibule - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/other-storage-vestibule.jpg)This is the smaller vestibule on the Vik 1P ### Completely Freestanding The Vik tent is truly freestanding.  If the weather is nice and you don’t need the vestibules, you don’t even need to stake out the tent (though I definitely still recommend staking out the tent completely in case the weather changes!). What’s cool about it being freestanding is that you can move it around easily.  If you accidentally pitch in a bad spot, you can just pick up the entire tent and plop it down in a new spot. ### Stupidly Easy to Set Up Alone I’ve set up a lot of tents and the Vik 1P is definitely one of the easiest – even alone.  You just put the poles in the corners of the tent and groundsheet, then do the same on the other side.  Clip the tent in place and you are done.  It took all of 5 minutes to complete on my first try. Because it’s freestanding, you only need to stake out the vestibules in good weather.  In windy weather, you’ll want to stake out the 4 corners, meaning 6 stakes total.  There are also a few places to stake out guylines but I found this unnecessary. Warning: You do have to bend the pole quite a bit when pitching.  It gets taut!  I let go accidentally and the pole hit me in the face 😛  Just something to be careful about.  Now that I’m aware, I doubt it will ever happen again. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/how-to-attach-clips-to-poles.jpg "how to attach clips to poles - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/how-to-attach-clips-to-poles.jpg)Just attach these little clips to the pole to pitch  The design keeps them from sliding around on the pole #### Set Up In Rain without Getting Wet Inside The Vik 1P tent is single-wall with an exterior pole structure. What’s cool about that is that you can actually set it up when it’s raining without the inside of the tent getting wet.  The same goes for taking down the tent. ### Okay Ventilation Ventilation is important in a single-wall tent for preventing condensation.  Luckily the Vik 1P tent has two air vents at the top.  The large mesh side walls also provide ventilation. There is also a decent air gap between the vestibule and ground.  My version has a skirt but there are drawstrings for rolling it up.  Because there is no bathtub floor, air can easily blow into the tent.  You’ll still get condensation on really cold nights, but it’s not as bad as with other single-wall tents. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/vent.jpg "vent - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/vent.jpg)One of the air vents on the roof[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/roll-up-tent-skirt.jpg "roll up tent skirt - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/roll-up-tent-skirt.jpg)You can roll up the skirt for more ventilation too ### Extra Features As far as extra features go, you’ve got a lantern loop at the top of the tent and pocket near the head area.  Would an extra pocket be nice? Yes – but I’m happy getting any pocket at all with a tent this affordable. Note: A cool feature with the Vik tent is that door can turn into an awning.  You just need to set it up with trekking poles.  But I honestly find this feature kind of useless.  It’s at a weird angle which probably won’t help much with rain or provide much shade – and I’d rather just sit outside in my rain gear 🙂 ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/awning.jpg "awning - Mom Goes Camping")*Vik 2P with the awning set up* ## What I Don’t Like about the Vik 1P Tent ### Not for Tall People I’m 5’1” and the Vik 1P tent was the perfect size for me.  Even though the footprint length is 82.7″/210cm,  I doubt this tent would work for very tall people, especially in cold weather. The problem is that your feet might end up touching the bottom of the tent.  This could condensation to form, meaning your sleeping bag footbox gets wet. Likewise, this isn’t a good tent for people who wriggle downwards in the tent while sleeping.  Even if you are short, your feet will still end up against that single wall!  You’d be better off with a double-wall tent. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/interior-space-view.jpg "interior space view - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/interior-space-view.jpg)Not much extra room at the feet This sleeping bag is 80203cm ### Possibly Windy The Naturehike Vik tent was designed to optimize ventilation.  But these same features can let wind into the tent – not fun on a very cold night! My version of the Vik 1P has a skirt.  In theory, I could pile some dirt or rocks on the skirt to keep out the wind.  I can’t imagine myself doing this every night on backpacking trips though. ### Bad Groundsheet Design The Vik 1P tent comes with a groundsheet which is the exact same size as the tent footprint.   As you can see in the picture, one part of the groundsheet was even sticking out. Here’s why this is bad: A groundsheet needs to be slightly smaller than the tent footprint.  Otherwise, water rolling off the tent will land on the groundsheet.  The water then puddles in the space between the groundsheet and tent floor.   If you lay on top of this, the water can seep into the tent. **The fix?** You just need to roll the edges of the Vik groundsheet under the tent.   So, it’s not really a big deal but something to be aware of in the rain. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/ground-sheet-sticking-out.jpg "ground sheet sticking out - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/ground-sheet-sticking-out.jpg)*Tuck the groundsheet under so rain doesnt puddle there* ### Offset Door My Be Annoying The door on the Vik tent opens off to the side.  You actually have to lean over kind of far to reach the zipper.    Getting in/out takes more effort than if the door was right in front of you. I personally didn’t mind this at all.  But my dad has a bad back and I imagine he’d hate this.  Likewise, my husband (who has a physical disability) would have a hard time getting in/out. ### Small Details… And here are some of the other things I didn’t like about the Vik 1P tent.  They aren’t deal breakers IMO though… - **Bulky items won’t fit in second vestibule:** The zipper on that vestibule is tiny. Bulky items won’t fit through it.  I’m not sure why they didn’t make it a few inches bigger! - **No two way zipper on mesh door:** So you have to unzip the door almost completely to get in/out or access gear in the front vestibule. - **No reflective strips:** I’d recommend getting some reflective cordage to tie on the stakes. - **Door hook is tiny:** There is a little hook for closing the vestibule door. It is really tiny and hard to put on. - **Drawstring tie backs:** The Vik 1P uses tie backs with little drawstring sliders. I prefer the classic toggle+loop. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/door-drawstring-1.jpg "door drawstring - Mom Goes Camping")Drawstring on the door tie back ## My Verdict on the Vik 1P Tent: As expected from a single-wall tent, the condensation in the Vik 1P tent is terrible. I would not recommend it to novice backpackers who haven’t learnt to deal with condensation. Because of the condensation, I only use the Vik tent on one-night backpacking trips, since I don’t have to worry about crawling into a wet tent on night two. However, my boyfriend uses it for his bikepacking trips. The fact that it pitches so quickly, and you can pitch it in the rain without the interior getting wet, makes it perfect for his needs. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/vik-1-tent-for-bikepacking.jpg "vik 1 tent for bikepacking - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/vik-1-tent-for-bikepacking.jpg)The Vik 1 is good for bikepacking it fits well strapped to the saddle ## Naturehike Vik Tent FAQ ### Is the Naturehike Vik a single-wall or double-wall tent? ### The Vik is technically a single-wall tent, but Naturehike describes it as a hybrid design because the two large vestibules act as a second layer on the sides. This helps reduce condensation compared to a true single-wall tent, but you’ll still get condensation on cold, humid nights — especially at the foot end where your sleeping bag might touch the wall. ### Is the Naturehike Vik good for tall people? ### Not really. The footprint is 210cm (82.7″) long, but tall sleepers tend to slide toward the foot of the tent and end up with their feet touching the single wall — which causes condensation and can wet your sleeping bag footbox. If you’re over 6 feet tall or tend to wriggle down in your sleep, a double-wall tent is a safer choice. ## Comparable Tents It’s difficult to find tents comparable to the Naturehike Vik 1P or 2P.  Most lightweight tents today are double wall.  If you find a single-wall or hybrid tent, it probably isn’t freestanding. For example, the [MSR Hubba Hubba](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DMSR%2BHubba%2BHubba) has a similar pole design to the Vik tent, but it is double wall. It weighs more at 2 lbs. 7 oz. (without groundsheet), is *significantly* more expensive and only has one storage vestibule instead of two.   The [Big Agnes Copper Spur HV UL 1P](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DBig%2BAgnes%2BCopper%2BSpur%2BHV%2BUL) is also similar in design and weighs 2lb 6oz, but it is also expensive. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/big-agnes-copper-spur-hv-ul-1p.jpg "big agnes copper spur hv ul 1p - Mom Goes Camping")[*Big Agnes Coppper Spur HV UL 1P*](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DBig%2BAgnes%2BCopper%2BSpur%2BHV%2BUL) As far as single-wall or hybrid tents go, there are some good ones by Gossamer Gear and Six Moon Designs.  These are incredibly lightweight, but aren’t freestanding and [require trekking poles](https://momgoescamping.com/best-trekking-pole-tents/) – which means they can be a pain to pitch every night. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/the-One-by-Gossamer-Gear.jpg "the One by Gossamer Gear - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/the-One-by-Gossamer-Gear.jpg)[The One by Gossamer Gear](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=8aa14f51-1fb2-4c30-b785-1c6c0a96cd31&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.garagegrowngear.com%2Fsearch%3Ftype%3Dproduct%26q%3Dthe%2Bone%2Bgossamer%2A%26product_type%3D) it uses trekking poles to pitch ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** naturehike --- ### [Best Portable Camping Kitchens](https://momgoescamping.com/best-portable-camping-kitchens/) **Published:** October 19, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** A camping kitchen is NOT a must-have item. I usually just set up my stove and cooking items on a picnic table or directly on the ground. I always call out “stove alert” (to the tune of the Octo Alert song from Octonauts) when lighting it so my kids don’t come barging through and burn themselves or knock the stove over. However, having a dedicated kitchen station at camp can make your life easier, especially when camping in a large group. **Reasons to Get a Camp Kitchen Station:** - **Keeps things organized.** so you don’t go crazy looking for spatulas, spices, etc. - **Won’t have to crouch**. I’m short so this isn’t a big deal for me, but I can understand how tall people with back issues would hate cooking on a picnic table. - **Frees up space at the picnic table.** So you can use it for eating instead of cooking. - **Safety.** Having flames away from the eating area is definitely safer than my method of calling out “stove alert.” **Reasons *Not* to Get a Camp Kitchen Station:** - **Heavy and bulky.** How much room do you have in your vehicle? - **One more thing to pack.** And also set up at camp. - **Stability issues.** Cheap ones aren’t stable on uneven ground or in windy conditions - **Critters.** Unless you want critters chewing through the panels, you can’t leave food inside the cupboards. ## Are Camping Kitchens Worth It? The Verdict: For one or two-night camping trips with a small group, camping kitchens are generally *not* worth the effort to pack and set up.  However, kitchen stations are worth it when camping in large groups or for longer periods of time because they help you stay organized and provide a comfortable, dedicated place to cook. Also read: [How to set up your kitchen station at camp](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-kitchen-setup/) [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/organized-camp-kitchen.jpg "organized camp kitchen - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/organized-camp-kitchen.jpg)*Anyone with OCD will appreciate how organized this camp setup is The kitchen station frees up the picnic table for eating or playing games*  ## Best Portable Camp Kitchens Reviewed Notes: “Total counter size” does *NOT* include side tables; it only includes surfaces which are strong enough for holding a stove and food prep. Click “Read More” for the full review. 1 [![Best Overall - GCI Outdoor Master Kitchen](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41YSKdo9BeL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C3WK867?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [Best Overall – GCI Outdoor Master Kitchen](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C3WK867?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) **Verdict:** It’s sturdy, affordable and has tons of counterspace, a sink, and storage. #### Features: - **Total Counter Size:** 56 x 22 inches - **3 side tables, 1 shelf** - **Folded size:** 35 x 22 x 6 inches - **Product Weight:** 22.4lbs - **Weight Limit:** 48lbs (main counter) + 35lbs (shelf) + 30lbs (each side table) - **Frame material:** Steel - **Other:** Sink, lantern hook [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C3WK867?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) Read More #### **Review** The GCI Outdoor Master camp kitchen was obviously designed by people who go camping a lot.  It is the camp kitchen which has the most amount of usable workspace, plus is designed with nice features which make it practical to bring on camping trips. The main thing to like about the GCI Outdoor Master is that it is portable considering how much counter space it has.  Folded, it is only 35 x 22 inches and nearly flat at 6 inches thick.  It’s easy to fit this into any car trunk. To use the camp kitchen, just unfold and attach the lantern hook: it takes all of 2 minutes to set up. The countertop is 56 inches long with the sink closed.  With the sink open, the countertop is 42 inches, which is still big enough for your stove and to prep food.  There is also a side table at top which brings the total space to 70 inches – though the side table isn’t quite sturdy enough for chopping food on. The frame is made out of steel and the countertop is heat-resistant aluminum, so the whole kitchen is quite sturdy.  There are a few hooks on the side tables for paper towels and other supplies. As for downsides, there are only a few complaints with this camp kitchen: it would be nice to have some more hooks, though you could add your own utensil organizer under the table.  I also wish the sink was removable since it can get gross and sometimes the small drain might clog. Pros - Spacious countertop - Lots of storage space - Sturdy construction - Folds down small and almost flat - Quick and easy to set up - Affordable Cons - Sink isn’t removable - Could use more hooks 2 [![Runner Up - Coleman Pack Away Camp Kitchen](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41Zd4cHj9fL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00339912S?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [Runner Up – Coleman Pack Away Camp Kitchen](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00339912S?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) **Verdict:** Great lightweight camp kitchen which is sturdy and packs down compact, but not much counter space #### Features: - **Total Counter Size:** 5 x 21.3 inches - **1 side table and 1 shelf** - **Folded size:** 31.5 x 11 inches - **Product Weight:** 13.8lbs - **Weight Limit:** 300lbs - **Frame material:** Aluminum - **Other:** Utensil and lantern hooks [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00339912S?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) Read More #### Review The Coleman Pack-Away Portable Kitchen has a different design than most camp kitchens.  It consists of two parts: the first part is a folding tabletop.  It actually turns into a carrying case for everything, which is pretty cool. The second part is a frame meant to hold your stove.  Instead of a tabletop, it has metal sliders on top.  The sliders can be moved closer or further apart to fit your stove.  This table-less design makes the kitchen station lighter and more compact.  It clips onto the main counter, so you could use the main counter by itself. As for storage, there’s a mesh shelf underneath the main table as well as a lantern hook and utensil hooks.  They aren’t the sturdiest but will get the job done. While the overall design of the Coleman Pack-Away Kitchen is cool, there are some issues. The biggest one is that the legs aren’t adjustable so it doesn’t always sit well on uneven ground.  Also note that the Amazon picture is from the old model: The newer model has four legs which don’t cross. Pros - Lightweight and compact - Can use the countertop by itself - High weight limit - Lantern hook Cons - Lacks storage - Not great for uneven ground 3 [![Splurge Pick - SylvanSport Outdoor Camp Kitchen](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/4100AzarXuL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0818CQ6KY?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [Splurge Pick – SylvanSport Outdoor Camp Kitchen](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0818CQ6KY?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) **Verdict:** Awesome camp kitchen with bamboo countertops, cabinets, a sink and tons of extras but expensive. #### Features: - **Total Counter Size:** 70 x 18 inches - **Two shelves** - **Folded size:** 40 x 19 x 7 inches - **Product Weight:** 44lbs - **Frame material:** Aluminum - **Other:** Sink, utensil hooks, windscreen, trash bag holder, paper towel holder [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0818CQ6KY?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) Read More #### Review The SylvanSport Over Easy is one of the coolest and most functional camping kitchens available.  It has almost every feature you could possible need to do serious cooking while at camp. Setting up the camp kitchen is actually pretty easy: just open the case, unfold the kitchen, snap the legs in place, and unfold the second counter and sink.  The legs are adjustable for uneven ground. Once open, you have two bamboo-topped countertops: one for your stove (32 x 18 inches) and another for food prep (38 x 18 inches).  This gives you a total of 70 inches of countertop space.  There’s a zip cabinet underneath with two shelves.  These shelves are actually sturdy enough to hold food without sagging. There’s also awesome extras like a collapsible sink station, built-in windscreen, trash bag holder, paper towel holder, and tons of utensil storage. They really thought of everything down to the Velcro straps to hold the cabinet doors open. The only thing that’s lacking is a lantern hook. Pros - Bamboo countertops - Adjustable legs for uneven ground - Tons of deluxe features - Lots of storage - Insect-proof cabinets - Removable sink Cons - Heavy - Pricy 4 [![GCI Outdoor Slim-Fold Outdoor Cook Station](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41uptyRuydL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00U9BHKM6?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [GCI Outdoor Slim-Fold Outdoor Cook Station](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00U9BHKM6?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) **Verdict:** Sturdy, packable and not too heavy, but lacks space for food prep. #### Features: - **Total Counter Size:** 24 x 16 inches - **Side tables:** 4 - **Shelves:** 1 - **Folded size:** 35 x 21 x 4 inches - **Product Weight:** 19lbs - **Weight Limit:** 48lbs (main counter) - **Frame material:** Steel - **Sink:** No - **Other:** storage hooks and paper towel holder - **Buy At:** [GCI website](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=5020432b-2ebc-4015-908e-7af6f97d8f72&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fgcioutdoor.com%2Fcollections%2Ftables), [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3wxeSMw) [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00U9BHKM6?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) Read More #### Review: Here’s another great camping kitchen station by GCI Outdoor.  Like their Master Kitchen, the Slim-Fold is very sturdy.  It can hold over 300lbs worth of supplies, which means you can use it to hold larger grills and not just gas camping stoves.  It’s very durable and tough, so expect it to last you through many camping trips. There are also a lot of nice design features on the camp kitchen, like how it quickly folds out and takes all of 1 minute to set up. There are hooks on the fold-out shelves for paper towels, tongs, and other camp supplies. The reason that the GCI Master Kitchen gets the #1 pick is because this one only has one countertop. Yes, the side tables do mean you have a lot of space – but they aren’t really meant for chopping food on.  You’ll have to do your food prep somewhere else and carry items to the side tables until you are ready to use them.   There’s also no lantern hook.  Other than that, this camp kitchen is near perfect and one of the top picks all-around. Pros - Very sturdy - 4 side tables plus shelf - Instant setup - Lots of storage hooks - Affordable Cons - No storage case - Side tables too flimsy for food prep - No lantern hook 5 [![Camp Chef Sherpa Kitchen Box](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/416A2vXVVXL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005DTEM2U?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [Camp Chef Sherpa Kitchen Box](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005DTEM2U?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) **Verdict:** Great solution for organizing kitchen essentials but best for simple meals due to lack of counterspace. #### Features: - **Total Counter Size:** 27 x 17” - **Two shelves** - **Folded size:** 27 x 18.25 x 15.75 inches - **Product Weight:** 14lbs - **Frame material:** Aluminum - **Other:** Zippered storage, cooler bag [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005DTEM2U?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) Read More #### Review: If you are more concerned with organizing your camp kitchen than having countertop space, this is the best camp kitchen for you.  It is designed to be like a chuck box in that it holds everything you might need for cooking. To set up the camp kitchen, all you need to do extend the telescoping legs and click the roll-top tabletop onto the box.  You then get a camp table which is 27×17 inches and 28 inches tall.  Unzip the front area and you’ll see there are 4 zippered compartments for holding your items.  One of the bags (the blue one) is insulated and works as a cooler bags.  It could also work as a sink.  The bags are actually pretty big and will hold around 14 cans of beer each. The obvious downside is that the setup doesn’t have enough space for food prep and a stove.  However, if you already have another folding camp table, this station provides a surface for your stove plus tons of storage. Pros - Lots of storage - Self-contained unit - Built-in cooler Cons - A bit bulky - Small countertop 6 [![VEVOR Camping Kitchen](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41-G-b3ajUL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B084VR1K9X?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [VEVOR Camping Kitchen](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B084VR1K9X?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) **Verdict:** Tons of nice features and closed storage, but a bit flimsy. #### Features: - **Total Counter Size:** 49 x 13 inches - **One side table, three shelves** - **Folded size:** 31 x 20 x 6 inches - **Product Weight:** 20.9lbs - **Weight Limit:** 66lbs - **Frame material:** Aluminum - **Other:** Lantern hook [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B084VR1K9X?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) Read More #### Review: This exact same camp kitchen is sold by a lot of generic Chinese brands. For example, in addition to Vevor, [Giantex ](https://amzn.to/3tfj1Gr)and [CampLand ](https://amzn.to/3uTN4UC)also sell it. Since it’s a generic brand, it’s not surprising that the camp kitchen is flimsy.  However, for a cheap camp kitchen, it’s actually a pretty good solution. The camp kitchen comes with multiple parts, so it takes a bit longer to set up than the other camping kitchens reviewed here – but it’s still very simple and easy.  Once set up, you get a nice amount of countertop space.  The main table (for your stove) is about 26 x 13 inches.  A fold-out second countertop is about 24 x 13 inches.  I love that the legs are adjustable so you can actually use this kitchen on uneven ground. There’s a water-resistant “cabinet” that hangs underneath the side table.  It gives you two shelving units for storing food.  I personally find it annoying to zip and unzip the unit, but it’s good for keeping items when you leave camp.  There’s also a sturdier shelf plus a side table and lantern hooks. One big downside which needs to be mentioned is that the second countertop isn’t very sturdy.  It should be fine for chopping soft foods like tomatoes but I wouldn’t want to put too much pressure on it. Maybe it’s best to chop up food on a sturdier table… There’s a built-in windscreen for the stove area but it’s pretty flimsy and I wouldn’t trust it in bad weather. Pros - Built in stove windscreen - Adjustable height - Good for uneven surfaces - Zipped storage cabinet - Affordable Cons - Table too weak for serious food prep - Flimsy materials 7 [![Alpine Mountain Gear Roll Top Kitchen](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41Ah-u3YDkL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NQXPT90?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [Alpine Mountain Gear Roll Top Kitchen](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NQXPT90?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) **Verdict:** Lightweight yet still lots of counterspace, but is a bit flimsy and lacks storage #### Features: - **Total Counter Size:** 49 x 14 inches - **One shelf** - **Folded size:** 31.5 x 20 x 4.3 inches - **Product Weight:** 10.2lbs - **Frame material:** Aluminum - **Other:** Adjustable legs [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NQXPT90?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) Read More #### Review: This roll-top kitchen by Alpine Mountain Gear (also called Mountain Summit Gear over at REI) is a simple but effective solution for cooking while camping.  I love that it has two separate countertop surfaces: one for your stove and another for food prep.  The first counter is approximately 26 x 14 inches and the other is just under 23 x 16 inches.  This gives you a total working space of 49 inches. You can set up the tables in under two minutes.  A nice feature is that the legs on the fold-out counter are adjustable so it actually works well on uneven ground. The shelf underneath the main table provides some sturdiness as well as storage.  There isn’t anything else for storage though, so you’ll have to bring your own organizers. The big downside of this camp kitchen is how flimsy it is.  You especially need to be careful with the latches on the legs.  It’s not too surprising that the materials are so weak considering that the kitchen station only weighs about 10lbs. Pros - Decent counterspace - Adjustable legs - Simple, easy setup - Very lightweight Cons - Flimsy - No weight limit given - Lacks storage --- ## Camp Kitchens Comparison Table **\[table id=37 /\]** --- ## Buying Guide – How to Choose a Portable Camp Kitchen Not sure what portable camping kitchen you need? Here are some guidelines to make sure you get the right size and features you need. ### It Must Have a Heat Resistant Tabletop No, you can’t use just any folding table as your camp kitchen.  It must have a heat-resistant surface or the countertop can melt!  Also check whether side tables are heat-resistant so you can set hot pots down directly without melting them. ### How Large Does a Camp Kitchen Need to Be? Your camp kitchen should be large enough to hold your stove and ideally also have space for food prep. **For a double burner stove and  medium-sized cutting board, you need at least 52 inches of countertop space.** If you are making simple meals which don’t require a lot of prep, then you can opt for a smaller camp kitchen.  If you have a lot of food prep, you will need something much larger. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/camp-kitchen-setup.jpg "camp kitchen setup - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/camp-kitchen-setup.jpg)*The [GCI Outdoor Master Kitchen](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C3WK867?tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) is large enough for serious cooking and staying organized* ### Number of Countertops Ideally, your camp kitchen should have *three* sturdy countertops. This allows you to create three stations: 1. Prep station 2. Cooking station 3. Serving station If you have another table at camp (such as a picnic table), then you can get by with a portable kitchen with only 1 or 2 countertops. ![how to choose a portable camping kitchen](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/choosing-camp-kitchen.jpg "choosing camp kitchen - Mom Goes Camping") ### Storage Storage is a huge plus with camping kitchen since it will help the kitchen stay clean and organized.  Camp kitchen storage comes in many forms, including: - Shelves - Covered “cabinets” - Mesh storage under the table - Hooks for utensils, pots, and pans - Paper towel holder Note that the weight limit on these can be pretty low.  If you have heavy items to put in your kitchen, such as the cooler, make sure you check the weight limit! #### **Important Notes about Kitchen Station Cabinets:** While they seem great, cabinets on a kitchen station usually aren’t all they are cracked to be.  They make it hard to find things inside, and you can only access the cabinets from the front. If something spills inside, it is difficult to clean and you can end up with ants crawling inside the cabinets. Wind can also be an issue when the kitchen station has cabinets. With open-backed cabinets, the wind goes through the setup so it isn’t an issue. Also remember that you shoudn’t leave food or scented items out overnight.  Critters will chew through the cabinets  to get to them.  So, don’t get a kitchen station with the plan of having everything out all the time. Because of this, I only really recommend kitchen cabinets in places where sand or dust is an issue. Storing items inside the cabinets will keep them cleaner. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/camp-kitchen-2.jpg "camp kitchen 2 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/camp-kitchen-2.jpg)**Pro tip** Keep food and scented items in plastic totes so you can quickly put them in your vehicle at night[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/critters-at-campsite.jpg "critters at campsite - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/critters-at-campsite.jpg)Dont leave your food items in the cupboards unless you want to invite critters to have a party the moment you go to sleep ### Stability and Weight Limit You don’t want your camp kitchen to topple over with a lit stove on it.  The ground at campsites isn’t always level or very sturdy, so you’ll need to make sure you choose a very stable camp kitchen.  Look for: - High weight limit - Sturdy materials like aluminum frames or steel, not plastic - Legs which lock in place - Four individual feet instead of two; the individual feet rest better on unsteady ground ### Portability For portability, you’ll want to look at the weight of the camping kitchen and how small it folds down. A carrying case with  handles is also a big plus. Unfortunately, most good camp kitchens weigh at least 20lbs. Any kitchen lighter than this is probably going to be  flimsy.  Likewise, the more storage and countertop space the kitchen has, the less portable it will be. ### Ease Of Setup If you are staying at one camping spot for a longer time, then it isn’t a big deal to spend some time setting up your camp kitchen.  But you don’t want to waste a hour setting up and taking down the kitchen for an overnight camping trip. ### Is There A Sink? The best camping kitchens have built-in sinks, some with even a faucet for bringing water to the sink.  Others have an area where you can put a bin for holding your dirty dishes until you take them to be cleaned.  It’s a nice feature but not always necessary, especially if you just want to use a few plastic bins for cleaning up your dishes. **Read: [How to Wash Dishes Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wash-dishes-camping/)** ### Height Most camping kitchens are made so you can use them while standing up.  There are some shorter camp kitchens though.  The benefit of these is that they take up less space, are lighter and more portable.  However, you will probably want a chair to sit in while using them or be prepared to hunch over while cooking. ### Lantern Pole This is one really nice extra feature to have on a camp kitchen (nicer than you’d expect!), especially if you don’t want to set up your kitchen near a tree where you can secure a lantern.  You’ll appreciate the extra visibility when doing dishes in the dark! ## Portable Camping Kitchen FAQ ### How much countertop space do I need in a camping kitchen? ### For a double-burner stove and a medium-sized cutting board, you need at least 52 inches of countertop space. If you’re making simple meals that don’t need much prep, a smaller surface works fine. Side tables don’t count toward usable prep space — most aren’t sturdy enough for chopping. ### Can you leave food in a camping kitchen cabinet overnight? ### No — critters will chew right through the fabric or panel walls to get to food or scented items. At night, move everything into your vehicle or a hard-sided bear box. Camping kitchen cabinets are really only useful for keeping items dust- and sand-free during the day, not for overnight food storage. **Need more help getting your camping kitchen setup right?  Read: [Camping Kitchen Essentials List: How to Set Up Your Kitchen Like a Pro](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-kitchen-essentials-list/)** --- Image credit: “[Outdoor Kitchen](https://www.flickr.com/photos/bennettanneb/2247411159/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Anne Bennett](https://www.flickr.com/people/bennettanneb/) “[IMG\_2618](https://www.flickr.com/photos/atutuanita/221500560/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Atutu](https://www.flickr.com/people/atutuanita/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** food, kitchen, stove --- ### [Best Toddler Travel Potties for Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/best-toddler-potties-camping/) **Published:** October 6, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Have you ever tried holding your toddler over a gross outhouse seat, hoping that they don’t fall in, while you wait for what seems like hours for them to poo?  I have, and learned my lesson.  Now, I always bring a portable toddler potty camping and it makes life easier for everyone. ## Tips for Using Portable Potties Camping - **At Campgrounds, use liner bags:** Most portable potties have basins for catching waste. You can line these with a bag. It’s much easier than trying to clean out the basin! - **Check rules about throwing away waste:** You usually can throw poop bags into the trash but *not* in outhouses/pit latrines.  However, this isn’t always the case. Check with the campground. - **If primitive camping, dig a hole ahead of time.** Pre-dig a “cathole” for poo. Then set the potty directly over the hole *without the basin.* When your child finishes, you just fill the hole with dirt. No need to deal with waste bags. ## Best Toddler Potties for Camping When camping, the toilets (if any) can be far away.  It’s also unlikely that you’ll have any toilets nearby when doing outdoor activities like hiking.  You want a folding potty that turns into a seat. Avoid toilet seat adapters. These are very impractical for camping and useless on hikes. The ones below are good options. ### 1. [Potette Plus with Reusable Collapsible Liner](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07KCK13GS/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07KCK13GS&linkId=f2c8c94983693ba125c0375b7d5dac77) [![Potette travel potty](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Potette-travel-potty.jpg "Potette travel potty - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Potette-travel-potty.jpg) **Best For:** Overall best for camping The Potette potty has two legs which quickly fold out to become a seat.  You can also spread them out further to make a toilet adapter (a feature not on the original Potette). If you buy the value pack, the Potette Plus comes with a reusable, collapsible liner bowl (you can buy it separately [here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FN8NPF1/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07FN8NPF1&linkId=dca26c7aba955bb560b7e392bde45d3a)) The bowl is awesome but has some usability flaws. First, it may stick to your kid’s butt, potentially causing a spill when they get up.  The bowl is also floppy, so you have to be careful when emptying it.  You can also use liner bags with the Potette but your kid will have to sit directly on the bag. Despite the flaws, this is my favorite toddler potty for camping.  In the backcountry, I’ll just dig a hole underneath the potty and my daughter will go straight into the hole.  Once she poos, I cover the hole and dig a new one. **Specs:** - **Type:** Seat-adapter combo - **Weight limit:** 50lbs - **Open size**: Approx. 6x9x4.7inches - **Seat opening:** 5.5×7 inches - **Weight:** 1.5lbs - [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07KCK13GS/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07KCK13GS&linkId=f2c8c94983693ba125c0375b7d5dac77) **Pros** - Fast and easy setup - Use as seat or adapter - Silicone liner is reusable and collapsible - Very small and portable - Decent pee guard - Fairly stable **Cons** - If using liner bag, child must sit on top of bag - Silicone bowl may stick to kid’s butt - Bowl takes practice to empty --- ### 2. [Folding Travel Potty with Reusable Liner Bowl](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08N5ZVHKQ/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08N5ZVHKQ&linkId=a1e8de67fad31915737ae820e7a4cb98) [![XWelle 3 in 1 Portable Potty For Toddler Travel +GIFT- Potty Training Toilet - Travel Potty Seat For Toddler - Foldable Potty Seat For Toddler Travel - Baby Toilet Trainer - Folding Kids Toilet (Blue)](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/514qzadocFL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C69S9Q95?tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) **Best for:** Smaller toddlers This is one of the most versatile travel potties you can get.  It is great for camping because it works as a seat and has a reusable, collapsible silicone bowl. Liner bags are completely optional.   My major gripe is that the silicone bowl is somewhat annoying to empty.  You’ve got to remove the seat and pull it out, which can be difficult if the bowl is full. It doesn’t work as well as a seat adapter because it wiggles around a bit on top of the toilet.  However, it’s still nice to have this feature.   The potty folds down very compact.  It isn’t the strongest though so is better for very little kids. **Specs:** - **Type:** Seat-adapter combo - **Weight limit:** 50lbs - **Open size**: 9x10x4 inches - **Folded size:** 9x10x2.5 inches - **Weight:** 1.17lbs - [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08N5ZVHKQ/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08N5ZVHKQ&linkId=a1e8de67fad31915737ae820e7a4cb98) **Pros** - Three legs quickly fold into seat - Legs pull outward to fit on top of toilet seat - Includes reusable liner bowl - Bowl is removable – can use with liner bags - Easy to empty - Splash guard **Cons** - Somewhat flimsy - Slides around on top of toilet seat - Carrying case is from flimsy material - Hard to empty liner without touching sides --- ### 3. [Blue Snail Potty](https://amzn.to/4by6VZR) **Best For:** Colorful potty that sets up insanely fast [![2-in-1 Go Potty for Travel, Portable Folding Compact Toilet Seat,Potty Training Toilet Chairs for Toddler Boys & Girls with Storage Bag and Potty Liners by BlueSnail (Blue+Pink)](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41DlyCPpw8L._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08G1B78PC?tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) The Blue Snail travel potty is designed differently than the other potties reviewed here.  Instead of folding, it opens and closes on a hinge. There are no legs but rather a complete circle base, so the potty is very stable. Liner bags attach underneath the foam-padded seat.   You can put the liner bag in place beforehand so it’s ready when you need it. Overall, that makes the Blue Snail the fastest travel potty to set up. When folded, the Blue Snail has a weird shape. It fits well at the bottom of a tote bag or even strapped outside of a backpack.  I like that it doesn’t look like a potty when folded. - **Type:** Seat with liner - **Open size**: 9x11x5.6 inches - **Folded size:** 11×6.6×5.4 inches - **Weight:** 1.85lbs - [**Buy Here**](https://amzn.to/4by6VZR) **Pros** - Very quick to set up - Cushioned seat - Cool colors - Very sturdy **Cons** - Can’t use without basin over cathole - Weird shape when folded - No splash guard --- ### 4. [OXO Tot 2-in-1 Go Potty](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071GV1VYY/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B071GV1VYY&linkId=482ff14b4f159f1b162ce8ba1fe751d1) ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/oxo-potty.jpg "oxo potty - Mom Goes Camping") **Best For:** Girls who will mostly use it on top of a toilet This is far from the best travel potty for camping. If you want to use it with liners, your kid will have to sit directly on the plastic.  It works okay as a seat adapter but there is a gap between the two.  The pee guard is really low.  Because of the gap, pee can spray out when boys sit on it. My verdict is that the OXO potty is okay for girls who mostly will use it on top of a toilet seat.  If you want to use it on the ground, then get something sturdier and a seat which goes over the liners. **Specs:** - **Type:** Seat-adapter combo - **Weight limit:** 50lbs - **Open size**: 3.3×10.6×12.1 inches - **Weight:** 1.5lbs - [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071GV1VYY/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B071GV1VYY&linkId=482ff14b4f159f1b162ce8ba1fe751d1) **Pros** - Good for bigger kids - Use as seat or adapter **Cons** - Not very stable on ground - Large even when folded - Child must sit on top of liner bag - Terrible pee guard --- ## Toddler Camping Potty FAQ ### How do you dispose of waste from a toddler camping potty? ### At a campground, line the potty’s basin with a bag and throw it in the trash — but never in an outhouse or pit latrine, since they have their own waste systems. If you’re backcountry camping, dig a “cathole” ahead of time, set the potty directly over the hole without the basin, and fill the hole with dirt when your child is done. No bag needed that way. ### Should I get a toddler potty seat or a toilet seat adapter for camping? ### Get a folding potty seat, not a toilet seat adapter. Adapters only work on top of an existing toilet, which makes them useless on hikes or anywhere without a toilet nearby. A folding seat works as a standalone potty over a hole or basin, and most also double as an adapter when you do have access to a toilet. **Do you use a portable potty when camping with your toddler? Share your tips in the comments section below!** Image credit: “[Toddler on a potty in the yard. Relaxed](https://www.flickr.com/photos/26344495@N05/50198465511/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Ivan Radic](https://www.flickr.com/people/26344495@N05/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** toddler --- ### [Best Hiking Child Carriers for Petite Women](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-child-carrier-petite-women/) **Published:** September 7, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** As a 5’1” woman, finding hiking gear which fits is often a challenge, but I didn’t expect it to be so difficult to find a hiking child carrier for petite women.  After all, it’s usually the *moms* I see carrying their kids on the trail.  Yet, most hiking carrier backpacks are made for people who are at least 5’4” and not short women with narrow shoulders and waists. After doing a lot of research and talking to other small outdoorsy moms, I’ve compiled this list of the best hiking carriers for petite women.  I’ll also talk about specific features petite women should pay attention to when choosing a hiking carrier. ## Adjustable Baby Hiking Backpacks Aren’t Great for Short Women Most of the “best” child hiking backpacks today are highly adjustable. Adjustable hiking carriers are great – but only to a point:  When you put the backpack carrier on the smallest setting, the shoulder straps end up low on the pack, meaning the load (your child) is way up high.   **A top-heavy load is hard to carry and balance.** It’s unrealistic to expect a hiking carrier to fit well on both a 5’ woman and 6’ tall man.  Plus there may be issues with the sternum strap location, hip belt size, and shoulder width. ![deuter kid comfort fit on tall man](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/deuter-kid-comfort-on-tall-man.jpg "deuter kid comfort on tall man - Mom Goes Camping")*This is how the Deuter Kid Comfort fits on a tall man On a short woman the child would be towering overhead* ## Best Baby Hiking Carriers for Petite Women ### 1. [Deuter Kid Comfort Active SL](https://amzn.to/4dB51LD) ![deuter kid comfort active womens SL hiking carrier for women](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/deuter-kid-comfort-active-womens-SL.jpg "deuter kid comfort active womens SL - Mom Goes Camping") **Best For: Petite women who won’t be sharing the carrier with a tall partner** - **Torso Length: 14-18”** - **Weight: 5lbs 13oz** - **Max weight: 48lbs** - **Storage capacity: 14L** - **Buy at: [Amazon](https://amzn.to/4dB51LD)** #### **Review:** In virtually every article about the best child carrier backpacks, the Deuter Kid Comfort carrier comes out #1.  However, if you read the reviews, you’ll see that most short or petite women don’t like how the carrier fits.  Even on the smallest settings, the backpack carrier is looming overhead and unbalanced. Luckily Deuter realized this and made the Deuter Kid Comfort Active SL, a backpack carrier specifically for women (or slender, shorter men).  The torso length is adjustable, but only from 14” to 18”.  This makes the Kid Comfort Active SL the backpack carrier with the shortest torso length currently available; most carriers only go down to 15”. The pack has almost all of the comfort features of the other Deuter kid carriers: Incredibly comfortable straps, back ventilation, safety straps, storage compartments…  It holds a child up to 40lbs (48lb weight limit with the pack and load). At 5lbs 13oz, it weighs less than most other backpack carriers. The only real downside of the Deuter KC Active SL is that it doesn’t have a water bladder compartment.  If you are hiking alone, it’s very difficult to reach your water bottles – you’ll probably have to take off the carrier to get it. I’ve trained my toddler to hand me my water bottle from the side pockets, and tied them to the pack so she won’t drop them, but a water bladder compartment is definitely nice to have. #### **Pros:** - **Actually made for petite women** - **Great fit and easy to adjust** - **Child seat and feet stirrups are highly adjustable** - **Lightweight carrier that still distributes weight like a proper hiking pack** - **14 liters of storage under child seat** #### **Cons:** - **No water bladder compartment** - **Chin rest, sun shade, and rain cover sold separately** **Check price at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/4dB51LD)** --- ### 2. [Thule Sapling Child Carrier](https://amzn.to/4vjh9a5) ![Thule Sapling frame child carrier for hiking and backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/thule-sapling.jpg "thule sapling - Mom Goes Camping") **Best For: An adjustable backpack carrier which is actually comfortable for people of different heights** - **Torso Length: 15-21”** - **Weight: 7lbs 3oz** - **Max. weight: 48lbs** - **Storage capacity: 20L** - **Buy at: [Amazon](https://amzn.to/4vjh9a5)** #### **Review** The Thule Sapling is pricy, but it is probably the best option if you need to switch between a short woman and tall partner.  Compared to other backpack carriers, the child seat is fairly low.  So, even when you have the Sapling carrier at its smallest setting, the load is still balanced well instead of towering overhead.  It’s also only 12.25” wide, which makes it narrower than other backpack carriers (even narrower than the women’s Deuter carrier above). The lumbar support on the Thule Sapling make this particularly comfortable to wear.  There are load adjustment straps, ventilation, and nice padded straps – everything you’d expect from a professional backpack. I’m not too pleased with the placement of the foot stirrups on the carrier, especially for younger children.  However, the seat is made in a way that they can actually rest their thighs on the storage compartment and sit without having their feet in the stirrups.  There is also no pillow for your child; just a kind of drool pad. The main downside of this hiking carrier for short women is the kickstand: it is very difficult to deploy with short arms. Depending on how small you are, you might have trouble retracting the kickstand too – not fun if you are hiking alone on overgrown paths! #### **Pros:** - **Comfortable for different heights** - **Very well balanced** - **Water bladder compartment** - **Comfortable seat for child** - **Sunshade included** - **Lots of storage** - **Suitable for serious backpacking** **Cons:** - **Kickstand difficult to extend with short arms** - **Chin rest isn’t padded** - **Expensive** **Check price on [Amazon](https://amzn.to/4dLdwT4)** --- ### 3. TrailMagik Hiking Carrier [![TrailMagik carrier](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/trailmagik-lightweight-carrier.jpg "trailmagik lightweight carrier - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/trailmagik-lightweight-carrier.jpg) **Best For: Ultralight backpacking; Toddlers who mostly walk but occassionally need to be carried** - **Weight: Approx. 9oz** - **Age range: From 1 year to 43lbs** - **Storage capacity: None** - **Buy at: [Trail Magik](https://momgoescamping.com/trail-magik) – Use discount code MOMGOES for 10% off** #### **Review** The Trail Magik carrier is really different than all of the others ones listed here.  It can’t be worn on its own.  Instead, the bottom of the carrier gets attached to your backpack straps and the top gets attached to the lift-loader straps using carabiners.  Because it utilizes the backpack you are already wearing, the carrier doesn’t have to have its own straps — meaning it is incredibly lightweight and compact.  It rolls down to smaller than a water bottle. This carrier is definitely not for everybody though.  It is fairly annoying to get your kid in/out of the carrier.  It also must be used with a proper backpack with structural support. You can’t use it with babies as it’s only for children aged 1 year and up to 43lbs.  And there is definitely no head support for napping kids. However, it is a very cool solution for hiking with toddlers who mostly walk, but need to be carried occassionally. **Pros:** - Incredibly lightweight - Packs down tiny - Great for transitioning between walking/carrying - Fits short and tall people equally well - Can wear with your own backpack = unlimited storage option **Cons:** - Can only use with proper backpack - Limited age range - Somewhat annoying to take child in/out of carrier **[Get it Here](https://momgoescamping.com/trail-magik) Use discount code MOMGOES for 10% off** --- ### 4. [ErgoBaby Omni 360 Cool Air](https://amzn.to/4u28Puf) ![ErgoBaby Omni 360 for hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/ergobaby-omni-360_cam_pearl-grey_product.jpg "ergobaby omni-360_cam_pearl-grey_product - Mom Goes Camping") **Best For: Everyday carrier that can be used for hiking with infants or toddlers** - **weight: 7-45lbs** - **Carrier weight: 2lbs** - **Buy at: [Amazon](https://amzn.to/4u28Puf)** #### Review: The ErgoBaby Omni 360 is one of the most “advanced” child carriers from the company.  It can be used from birth to 45lbs without an infant insert. The straps can be worn in an H shape or crossed over, depending on the type of support you need.  There is also a detachable storage compartment.  By comparison, the ErgoBaby 360 needs an infant insert, doesn’t have a storage compartment, and the straps can’t be crossed.  For this reason, it’s worth paying a bit more for the Omni 360. As expeted from ErgoBaby, the child carrier is really comfortable.  There’s a very wide hip belt with built-in lumbar support, so it can be worn on longer hikes.  You have the option of carrying your child in front, on your back, or on the side (though I wouldn’t recommend that position on hikes). There are two versions of the Omni 360 carrier: Cool Air Mesh and Cotton.  For hiking, the Cool Air Mesh is much more breathable and dries quickly.  It also uses sliders instead of buttons for size adjustments.  However, some people do say that the mesh material is scratchy and chaffs at their or their baby’s skin.  Your baby should have some clothes on as a barrier against the mesh. Other than the mesh, the main issue with the Omni 360 carrier is that the straps are pretty bulky.  For short women, this can be annoying as the padding can push under your arms.  Another small issue is that the child sits low in the back position, so they won’t get much of a view. **Pros:** - **Suitable for infants and toddlers** - **Highly adjustable** - **Great lumbar support** - **Hiking and everyday use** **Cons:** - **Mesh material is scratchy** - **A bit bulky** **Check price on [Amazon](https://amzn.to/4u28Puf)** --- ### 5. [Lillebaby Complete Airflow](https://amzn.to/4adEXnr) ![lillebaby complete airflow for hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/lillebaby-complete-airflow.jpg "lillebaby complete airflow - Mom Goes Camping") **Best For: Soft carrier for longer hikes with babies or young toddlers** - **Max weight: 7-45lbs** - **Carrier weight: 2.5lbs** - **Buy at: [Amazon](https://amzn.to/4adEXnr)** #### **Review:** As far as soft carriers go, the Lillebaby Complete is one of the best for hiking with babies or young toddlers.  Compared to most soft carriers (including the Ergo), it has a very wide waist belt and also built-in lumbar support.  While this does make the carrier heavier and bulkier, it makes it much more comfortable to wear for long periods of time. The carrier is adjustable in many areas, including having the option of wearing the straps in an H position or crossed.  For your child, there is an adjustable seat and a neck support panel which can be up or down.  The built-in hood is detachable and keeps your child’s head steady if they fall asleep on the hike. The “Airflow” version of the Lillebaby Complete has a front panel which zips down to expose mesh, allowing for ventilation in hot weather.  There’s also an “All Seasons” mesh version of the hiking carrier, but the mesh can be a bit scratchy on the skin.  If you don’t want any mesh, then opt for the [original cotton version](https://amzn.to/4dN3wsi). If your child is a bit older, then consider getting the [Lillebaby CarryOn](https://amzn.to/4dWaSKu) instead.  It is suitable for 20 to 60lbs. **Pros:** - **Lumbar support** - **Straps worn in H or cross position** - **Very comfortable** - **Adjustable and detachable hood** - **Zip-down mesh panel option** - **Affordable carrier** **Cons:** - **Waist belt might not fit very skinny women** - **Bulky** **Check price on [Amazon](https://amzn.to/4tWnAhZ)** --- ### 6. [Tula Toddler Carrier](https://amzn.to/4nYnoOa) ![Toddler tula carrier for hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/toddler-tulas.jpg "toddler tulas - Mom Goes Camping") **Best For:** Toddlers and children who will mostly be walking but may need to be carried occasionally - **Carrier weight:** 2.8lbs - **Max weight:** 25-60lbs - **Hip belt:** 28-61 inches - **Buy at: [Amazon](https://amzn.to/4nYnoOa)** #### **Review:** Tula is favorite brand for child carriers.  They make a toddler version of their ergonomic carrier and it’s pretty good for hiking.  It’s suitable for children 25 to 60lbs. The design of the Tula carrier is pretty simple, which makes it easy to adjust and get your child inside.  The wide waistband helps distribute the weight well.  Your toddler will also be comfortable because there is a lot of padding in the leg area. You can wear your child in front or back position.  In my opinion, the front position only makes sense if your child is right at the bottom of the 25lb weight limit.  After that, they get too big and will obstruct your view.  The back position is better and not as hot for hiking. There’s a built-in hood in the carrier which will keep your child’s head stable if they fall asleep – though it is admittedly almost impossible to get on by yourself when your kid is in the back position. I wouldn’t want to wear a 25+lb child in the Tula carrier for long hikes.  However, it is a really good solution for if your child gets tired while hiking and needs to be carried a bit. It isn’t as bulky as other hiking carriers so you can keep it in your pack until you need it. The design makes it one of the best fits for short women and the waistband adjusts from small to plus-sizes. **Pros:** - **Carriers up to 60lbs** - **Easy to get on/off** - **Built-in hood for sleeping** - **Not bulky** **Cons:** - **Front position is awkward** - **Fabric lacks ventilation** - **A bit pricy for a soft carrier** - **Not for very skinny women** **Check price on [Amazon](https://amzn.to/4nYnoOa)** --- ### 7. [Beco Gemini](https://amzn.to/431PhuZ) ![Beco gemini child carrier for hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/gemini.jpg "gemini - Mom Goes Camping") **Best For:** A soft hiking carrier which works for petite and larger parents - **Max weight:** 7-35lbs - **Carrier weight:** 6lbs - **Hip belt:** 28-57 inches - **Buy at: [Amazon](https://amzn.to/431PhuZ)** #### **Review:** A lot of moms love the Beco carriers and find them very comfortable to wear, even on longer hikes. The design is simple but effective.  You use snaps to adjust the seat size for your child (there are two size options). A neck support panel can go up or down.  There’s a sternum strap and hip belt.  There are some nice features like two pockets and sleep hood, but no lumbar support. The simplicity of the design means Beco carriers are easy to get on and off without much fiddling.  They are also affordable for the quality.  Still, Beco carriers are one of the better options when it comes to adjusting between different sized parents.  The straps do sit a bit awkward on the smallest setting, but are still overall comfortable. Note that there is a cool air mesh option of Beco carriers.  Many parents complain that the mesh is scratchy and uncomfortable, so it’s probably best to choose a cotton option. #### **Pros:** - **Adjusts well to different body sizes** - **Very easy to use** - **Not as bulky as most hiking carriers** - **Straps in H or cross position** #### **Cons:** - **Baby will quickly outgrow Gemini** - **Not breathable and mesh version is scratchy** - **Hip belt won’t fit very skinny women** **Check price on [Amazon](https://amzn.to/4x98yZk)** --- ### 8. [Boba Classic 4Gs](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NYV2HGM/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07NYV2HGM&linkId=5d8c946179abc77e6fb2ad99d3cbf196&th=1) ![Boba Classic 4Gs for hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/boba-classic-4gs-copy.jpg "boba classic 4gs copy - Mom Goes Camping") **Best for:** When you need a good-enough, packable hiking carrier on a budget - **Max weight:** 7-45lbs - **Carrier weight:** 2lbs - **Hip belt:** 25-58 inches - **Buy at: [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NYV2HGM/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07NYV2HGM&linkId=5d8c946179abc77e6fb2ad99d3cbf196)** #### **Review:** This is the most affordable hiking child carrier on the list. It comes with a pillow insert so it can be used for infants starting at 7lbs.  Remove the pillow and use with toddlers up to 45lbs. A cool thing about the Boba Classic 4GS that I haven’t seen with other soft carriers is that it **includes removable foot straps**. Just slide your child’s feet into the straps; your child will be more comfortable and you won’t have to deal with feet swinging around. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/boba-classic-foot-straps-1.jpg "boba classic foot straps - Mom Goes Camping")*Removable foot straps for the Boba carrier* Other cool features about the Boba carrier are that it has a waist pocket and the hood pocket is large enough to store some small items too. There is a holder on the shoulder to keep your purse strap from falling down. The carrier will fit most parents, regardless of size.  The waist band adjusts from 25 inches to 58 inches, and they have extenders for plus-sized parents. There is a plastic adjustment buckle under the arm area, but it is low enough that it shouldn’t rub against your arms. Unfortunately, this carrier doesn’t give the best back support.  There’s no additional lumbar support and the straps cannot be crossed. The waist band is also very soft, so won’t take as much weight as a hiking carrier with a harder, thicker waist band. #### **Pros:** - **Affordable option** - **Good from infancy to 45lbs** - **Removable feet straps** - **Pockets, hood, and purse strap holder** #### **Cons:** - **Straps cannot be crossed** - **Not the best back support** **Check price on [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NYV2HGM/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07NYV2HGM&linkId=5d8c946179abc77e6fb2ad99d3cbf196)** --- ## What to Look for in a Hiking Carrier When You Are Petite Carrying a large, bulky load – especially one that might be flailing and crying – when you are a small woman is not an easy task.  But, like with any good backpack, a carrier can help hold the weight and stay balanced.  Here’s what you specifically need to pay attention to with hiking carriers if you are petite. ### Soft vs. Framed Backpack Child Carrier As a general rule, framed child carriers do a much better job of transferring weight and helping you stay balanced.  For long hikes with a heavier/older child, you’ll need a framed carrier. However, **most framed child carriers are bulky and most aren’t made for short, petite women.**  I’ve tried on backpack carriers which couldn’t even cinch around my waist (which I guess I should be happy about). If you are just going on short hikes and your child is a good walker, then it might make more sense to bring a soft carrier; let your child walk and use the soft carrier as a backup for carrying if they get tired. Likewise, if you are *really* petite, you might find that soft carriers are the only ones which give you a good fit. **Read: [Soft Carriers vs. Backpack Child Carriers for Hiking ](https://momgoescamping.com/soft-vs-frame-backpack-hiking-carrier/)** ### Storage Compartment *Under* the Carrier, Not Behind It Some backpack hiking carriers have packs on the exterior.  While the extra storage space is nice, it isn’t the smartest design.  It makes much more sense to put the storage under the child seat.  Here’s why. When packing a backpack, the heaviest items should be placed in the middle of the pack, close to your spine. Unfortunately, there’s no way to get the load (your child) compacted right against your back. The load ends up being far from your spine, which in turn makes it hard to balance – especially if you are short and small to begin with.  Adding extra storage on the back of the carrier just makes it even harder to balance. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/kelty-perfect-fit-weight-away-from-core.jpg "kelty perfect fit weight away from core - Mom Goes Camping")*This is NOT good for petite women The exterior storage puts weight away from your core and makes it harder to balance* ### Weight Limit Let’s be realistic here: if you are a petite woman, you probably don’t want to carry a 45lb child on your back on long hiking trips.  As I talk about in my [post about hiking with my two year old](https://momgoescamping.com/tips-hiking-two-year-old/), I get exhausted quickly and she’s only about 25lbs now.  However, a high weight limit on a hiking carrier is a sign that it’s well-made (so you can use it with future children or sell it later). ### Carrier Weight Hiking backpack carriers typically weigh around 6 to 7lbs.  That’s a lot of weight to carry, especially since you are already carrying your child and probably lots of the gear supplies a child requires.  By contrast, a soft-carrier will only weigh 2lbs or so.  However, a good frame will do a better job of distributing weight and helping you stay balanced.  So, don’t get suckered in by hiking carriers which boast they are “lightweight.”  What you really need is a good balance between carrier weight and carrying ability. ### Thick, Padded Hip Belt The hip belt is really important when you are holding a heavy load. It will transfer the weight of your child from your back to your hips.   You’d be surprised what a difference a lot of thick padding can make towards your comfort. **Make sure it can be cinched to fit your small waist!** ### Buckle Placements in Soft Carriers If you are getting a soft child hiking carrier, pay careful attention to where the adjustment buckles are located.  Sometimes the buckles end up in the dumbest location when on the smallest setting.  For example, the popular BabyBjorn Air One has giant buckles. If you are petite, they end up right under the arms and chaff you as you hike. ## Hiking Carrier for Petite Women FAQ: ### What’s the shortest torso length hiking carrier available? ### The Deuter Kid Comfort Active SL adjusts down to a 14″ torso length, the shortest currently available — most child carrier backpacks only go down to 15″. It was designed specifically for petite women and shorter men. ### Should petite women use a soft carrier or a framed backpack carrier? ### Framed carriers balance weight better on long hikes, but most aren’t built for short, narrow frames — some won’t even cinch tight enough at the waist. If you’re very petite or only doing shorter hikes with a child who mostly walks, a soft carrier is often the better fit. Save the framed carrier for when you need to carry a heavier or older child for longer distances. --- Image credit: “[Taman Negara](https://www.flickr.com/photos/phalinn/30509993973/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Phalinn Ooi](https://www.flickr.com/people/phalinn/), ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking **Tags:** babies, carriers, toddlers --- ### [Best Kids Camping Chairs 2026](https://momgoescamping.com/best-kids-camping-chairs/) **Published:** July 20, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I usually don’t bring a camp chair for my kids. They can sit on the ground or a log. But, if I want to bring a chair for *myself,* I’ve found that my kids will steal it from me. Then I have to kick them out of it, or I have to worry that they will topple over since the chair is too large for them.  I guess it’s only fair that my kids get the same comfort I do. 😀 If you are going to spring for a kids camping chair,  you should get one that is stable (don’t have to worry about it toppling over into the campfire!), has the right seat height, and is actually practical for camping.  It also helps when the camping chair has cute or cool designs that your kids will love. Here are the top picks. \*If you have a really little kid, see these picks for [Best Toddler Camping Chairs](https://momgoescamping.com/best-toddler-camping-chairs/) instead. **Quick Picks:** - **Best Overall:** [Coleman Kids Quad Chair](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F218136%2Fcoleman-quad-chair-kids) because it has a low seat height, is lightweight, very sturdy, has a cool (but not cheesy) design, and is suitable for ages 3-7 - **Best for Older Kids:** [REI kids camp chair](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F847189%2Frei-co-op-camp-chair-kids) is a quality chair which will grow with your kids; suitable for ages 4-10 years old - **Best for Cuteness:** [Melissa and Doug camping chairs](https://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=6a7cccc7fd3be78ea05deda4cf684b78&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=sporting&keywords=Melissa%20and%20doug%20chair)![](//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&l=ur2&o=1) are cute, affordable, and good for kids 3-5 years old ## Best Camping Chairs for Kids \*Note that I used the seat height, weight limit, and dimensions to determine the appropriate age range for these camping chairs; the age range might not match what the manufacturer listed in the product description. ### 1. Coleman Kids Quad Chair [![coleman quad kids chair](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/coleman-quad-kids-chair.jpg "coleman quad kids chair - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/coleman-quad-kids-chair.jpg) **Best for: A sturdy camping chair with a low seat height** This kids camping chair is a good balance between fun designs and practicality.  Kids will like the fact that the chair has glow-in-the-dark elements on it.  Parents will like that it has a low seat height of just over 10 inches, so even little kids will be able to get in/out easily without toppling over. Note the chair is smaller than it seems in the pictures.  While it should last your kids a few years of camping and has a high weight limit, older kids will get cramped in the chair.  If your children are tall, it might only be okay up to 5 years old. #### Features - **Weight capacity:** 160lbs - **Chair weight:** 3.7lbs - **Unfolded dimensions (H x W x D):** 8 x 24 x 15” - **Seat height:** 10.2inches - **Age range:** 3-7 - **[Buy Here](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F218136%2Fcoleman-quad-chair-kids)** --- ### 2. REI Co-op Kids Camping Chair [![rei kids camping chairs](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/rei-kids-camping-chairs.jpg "rei kids camping chairs - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/rei-kids-camping-chairs.jpg) **Best For:** **A very durable yet lightweight camping chair which will grow with your kids** REI’s kid camping chair is everything you’d expect from the company: good-quality camping gear at an affordable cost.  The chair is made from a solid construction and is very sturdy.  It won’t wobble around, even on uneven ground.  The seat height is 11 inches, which means it will be too tall for toddlers and they’ll need some help getting out of the chair.  It’s better for slightly older or taller children.  The chair only comes in blue and red, with no designs, but it means older kids won’t be stuck with a babyish chair. The chair doesn’t come with a carrying case but there is a strap built into the chair for easy carrying.  It’s only 4lbs, which is pretty lightweight for the sturdiness, so maybe you’ll even be able to get your kids to carry it themselves (here’s to wishful thinking!). #### Features - **Weight capacity:** 125lbs - **Chair weight:** 4lbs - **Unfolded dimensions (H x W x D):** 24.5 x 26.5 x 16” - **Folded dimensions:** 5×25” - **Seat height:** 11 inches - **Age range:** 4-10 years - **[Buy here](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F847189%2Frei-co-op-camp-chair-kids)** --- ### 3. Melissa & Doug Camping Chairs  **[![melissa and doug kids camping chairs](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/melissa-and-doug-kids-camping-chairs.jpg "melissa and doug kids camping chairs - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/melissa-and-doug-kids-camping-chairs.jpg)** **Best for: A super cute, cheap camping chair** These kids camping chairs are incredibly popular and get put on every “best” list out there.   Young kids will like the cute designs.  No, the chairs aren’t just a cute gimmick: they actually do hold up over several years’ of use.  The construction isn’t as solid as the REI chair above, but that does make the chair lighter.  The seat height is low enough to be used with small children or even toddlers but it will still fit kids up to around 6 years old (depending on  how big your child is). #### Features - **Weight capacity:** 125lbs - **Chair weight:** 2.7lbs - **Unfolded dimensions (H x W x D):** 25.5 x 24.5 x 15” - **Folded dimensions:** 23.7 x 6.7″ - **Seat height:** 10″ - **Age range:** 3-6 - **[Buy here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=75e947e678cbf2962a770a6f498f45d6&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=sporting&keywords=Melissa%20and%20doug%20chair)![](//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&l=ur2&o=1)** --- ### 4. Wilcor Kids Folding Camp Chair [![Wilcor Kids Folding Camp Chair with Cup Holder and Carry Bag - Black Bear](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41iBAUfFGPL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01AN5YSAE?tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) **Best For:** **A cute camping chair for slightly older children** If you want a cute kids camping chair but for slightly older children, these ones by Wilcor are great. They are very sturdy but weigh under 4lbs.  At 11 inches high, this chair is best for kids from 4 years old (despite the fact the manufacturer says 2 years old).  The chair should be fine for most kids up to 6 years olds. After that the seat will be too cramped. #### Features - **Weight capacity:** 125lbs - **Chair weight:** 3.9 lbs - **Unfolded dimensions (H x W x D):** 28 x 24 x 15” - **Folded dimensions:** 26″ x 4″ x 5″ - **Seat height:** 11” - **Age range:** 4-6 years - **[Buy Here](https://amzn.to/32CHQMK)** --- ### 5. Kingcamp Camping Chair ![kingcamp low camping chair](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/kingcamp-camping-chair.jpg "kingcamp camping chair - Mom Goes Camping") **Best for:** A**n adult chair that kids of all ages can use too** This camping chair is a low camping chair which is meant for adults.  However, because the seat height is just 8 inches, it is also suitable for children too.  You’ll appreciate the fact that the chair is ridiculously sturdy and won’t tip over (which will make you calmer around the campfire). The issue with using a low adult chair for children is that the seat is still very deep.  If your kid sits back in the chair, their feet will not touch the ground.  I actually like this for very little kids: they can sit cross-legged (which my kids prefer anyway). Toddlers are also used to having their legs completely extended in strollers, and the chair depth is long enough for that. A lot of adults like this low chair to sit in while playing on the ground with their kids.  I will warn you though that it sucks to get out of such a low chair.  Still, it’s something you and your kids can use for years. #### Features - **Weight capacity:** 300lbs - **Chair weight:** 6.6lbs - **Unfolded dimensions (H x W x D):** 25.2 x 23.2 x 22.8” - **Folded dimensions:**30.7 × 7.9 × 5.1″ - **Seat height:** 8” - **Age range:** All ages - **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0796N7RBN?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B0796N7RBN&pd_rd_w=KyhsK&pf_rd_p=57cbdc41-b731-4e3d-aca7-49078b13a07b&pd_rd_wg=NQli9&pf_rd_r=4DKRHGR6SZQ8EJ70H5FT&pd_rd_r=7ec78dd8-66df-45d6-93c1-cb8002cdfb2b&s=sporting-goods&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzUlcwR05VMlNSQlhZJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNzM4MDAzMzBDQ09ITks3NVNEUyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUExMDI4MjQ4Mk9RQUZIRVM3NTdPTCZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2RldGFpbF90aGVtYXRpYyZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU%3D&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=011c5302b9344c366811ea1d60f944d4&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl)** --- ### 6. Strongback Prodigy Kids Chair ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/strongback-kids-camping-chair-posture.jpg "strongback kids camping chair posture - Mom Goes Camping") **Best For: Good posture** The brand Strongback makes folding chairs with ergonomic designs for good posture.  There is an raised back area which provides lumbar support so you can’t slouch in them like a typical camping chair.  They are really comfortable and the back support makes it easier to do things like eat in the chair.  I also love that the Strongback chairs are very sturdy and strong.  They will last for years and small teens can sit in it too.  It’s just too bad the chairs don’t come in any cute designs for kids. #### Features - **Weight capacity:** 200lbs - **Chair weight:** 4.5lbs - **Unfolded dimensions (H x W x D):** 23 x 16 x 17” - **Folded dimensions:** 5.5 x 24” - **Seat height:** 11.5” - **Age range:** 7+ - **[Buy Here](https://amzn.to/3v4f2IK)** --- ### 7. Foam Camping Pad [![baby around campfire](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/DSCF0938.jpg "DSCF0938 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/DSCF0938.jpg) Do your kids really need their own camping chair? I’m a minimalist camper and most of the time my kids and I just sit on a foam sleeping pad.  It’s lighter, easier to pack, they can lie down on it, and I don’t have to worry about them falling out.   I usually take a pad on hikes too so we can sit on it during breaks. For sitting on, I prefer smooth pads (as opposed to ridged or bumpy sleeping pads) since they are easier to clean and don’t get gunked up as easily.  Most foam pads cost less than $20 and will last for years. **[Get It Here](https://amzn.to/3hholxd)** --- ## Choosing the Right Camping Chair for Your Kids Since this will probably be the only chair your children have to sit on while camping, make sure you get the right one.   Here’s what you need to consider to get the right chair for your kids: ### Weight Limit The weight limit on camping chairs indicates how much weight the chair can safely hold.  It does not mean that it will fit children up to that weight: a chair with a 100lb weight limit won’t necessarily fit a 100lb child! **A high weight limit is a sign of good quality**, so it’s worth getting a chair with a high weight limit even if your child is still very light. ### Height from Ground A lot of kids camping chairs are stupidly high off the ground.  The high center of gravity means the chair is more likely to fall over.  Young children might need help getting down from a tall camping chair.  Another major issue: their feet won’t rest on the ground.   There aren’t any standard seat heights for kid’s chairs, but below is what [Montessori recommends](https://manine-montessori.com/pages/choosing-the-correct-table-and-chair-for-your-child). \*It’s a good idea to measure your child’s sitting height (with feet flat on the ground) before buyin a camp chair. \[table id=32 /\] ### Stability Please do NOT get a beach-type of chair for camping!  These are not very stable and thus not very safe for sitting in front of a campfire.  Instead, look for 4 separate chair legs.  The wider the legs, the more stable the chair is. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/unsafe-camping-chair.jpg "unsafe camping chair - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/unsafe-camping-chair.jpg)*These types of folding chairs above are not safe for uneven ground in front of a campfire* ### Canopy I personally don’t find canopies useful while camping, but a canopy is useful if you want to use the chair on the beach too.  Just pay attention to the canopy height: tall kids (even within the weight limit of the chair) will likely hit their heads on the canopy.  A canopy also means the camping chair will be bulkier and heavier. ### Will It Grow with Your Kid? If the camping chair actually fits your child well, they will grow out of it quickly.  If you have a young child and want the chair to last for more years, look for one which is low to the ground but still has a high weight limit – like the [Coleman Kids Quad chair](https://amzn.to/2ZJHPVp) which is just 10.2 inches off the ground but has a weight limit of 160lbs. ### Cute Designs My kids annoyingly are more likely to use something if it has cute designs on it.  There are plenty of cute camping chairs for kids – just think about whether your kids will still like the design next year or whether the design is gender-neutral enough for another child to inherit the chair later down the road. ## Kids Camping Chair FAQ: ### What seat height is right for my kid’s camping chair? ### There’s no official standard, but as a guide: 7″ for ages 1-2, 8″ for ages 2-3, 10″ for ages 3-4, 12″ for ages 4-6, 14″ for ages 6-8, and 15″ for ages 8-11. The best approach is to measure your child’s sitting height with their feet flat on the ground before buying. ### Does my child need their own camping chair? ### Not necessarily. A foam sleeping pad works as a lightweight, packable alternative — kids can sit or lie on it, and there’s no risk of falling out. It’s also useful to bring on hikes for rest breaks. If you do want a dedicated chair, prioritize stability and weight capacity over fitting your child’s current size exactly. --- Image credit: “[Chairs Around Campfire](https://www.flickr.com/photos/camknows/9918446006/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [camknows](https://www.flickr.com/people/camknows/), ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** chairs, kids --- ### [How to Make an Improvised Stretcher (Infographic)](https://momgoescamping.com/improvised-stretcher/) **Published:** April 27, 2024 **Author:** Diane **Content:** As a parent who takes her kids into the wilderness, I always have an exit plan in case something goes wrong, and this includes knowing how to move a person to safety. Here, I’ll go over ways to make an improvised stretcher, but also why you usually don’t want to evacuate an injured person. **Also Read:** - [Backpacking First Aid Kit Checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-first-aid-kit-checklist/) - [How to Call for Help in the Wilderness](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-communication-devices/) ## How to Make an Improvised Stretcher in the Wilderness ### 1. Blanket Stretcher [![improvised stretch from blanket and two poles](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/improvised-stretch-from-blanket-and-two-poles.jpg "improvised stretch from blanket and two poles - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/improvised-stretch-from-blanket-and-two-poles.jpg) For this improvised stretcher, you need a blanket and two long, sturdy poles.  A tarp would also work, as would a tent.  A sleeping bag is not wide enough for this stretcher, though. When the victim lies on the stretcher, their weight will cause the material to stay in position. 1. Lay the blanket on the ground. Put the first pole on the blanket. It should be 2-3 feet from the right side. 2. Fold the right side of the blanket over the pole. Now put the second pole on top of the blanket edge. 3. Fold the left side of the blanket over both poles. \*You can also make a hammock with this method! --- ### 2. Stretcher from Jackets [![improvised stretch with jackets](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/improvised-stretch-with-jackets.jpg "improvised stretch with jackets - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/improvised-stretch-with-jackets.jpg) You will need two long, sturdy poles, two shorter poles, some rope, and at least two jackets. If you don’t have jackets, you can also use several long-sleeve shirts. To make the stretcher, tuck the jacket sleeves inwards. Then run the poles through the jacket sleeves. If there are buttons or zippers on the jackets, they should be downwards so they don’t irritate the victim.  Finally, attach two crossbars to the poles using diagonal lashings. This last step is optional but it makes the stretcher more stable, easier to carry, and gives the victim somewhere to put their legs. --- ### 3.  Stretcher from Tarp or Tent Fly [![improvised stretcher from tarp or tent fly](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/improvised-stretch-from-tarp.jpg "improvised stretch from tarp - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/improvised-stretch-from-tarp.jpg) You need a tarp or tent fly for this stretcher as well as some rope and cloth balls (such as rolled up socks or shirts). Use a clove hitch to tie the cloth balls into the corners and sides of the tarp.  You then use the rope to carry the stretcher. Do *not* tie the rope directly to the tarp: it will tear. This improvised stretcher only works if you have six people to carry the victim.  Because the material sags, it also jolts the victim. Thus, it is *not* recommended for moving seriously-injured victims, such as people who might have internal injuries or bad breaks. --- ### 4. Blanket Roll Stretcher [![improvised stretch with blanket](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/improvised-stretch-with-blanket.jpg "improvised stretch with blanket - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/improvised-stretch-with-blanket.jpg) This is a very simple improvised stretcher. You simply roll up the sides of a blanket (an unzipped sleeping bag would also work).  Ideally, at least six people move the injured person by grasping onto the rolled edges.  It is the worst of these improvised stretchers though because it’s easy to drop and doesn’t provide solid support for the victim. --- **Want this information in PRINTABLE format? (and to support my website)** **[Get my Camping Cheat Sheets!](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets/firstaid)** [![camping cheat sheets](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/interior-pages-1024x356.jpg "interior pages - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets/firstaid) The illustrated guide covers everything you need to know to enjoy the outdoors with confidence. Since you care about first aid, I’ll even give you a discount 🙂 [**Get the Cheat Sheets here**](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets/firstaid) --- ## It’s Usually Better Not to Move the Victim Carrying an injured person through wilderness terrain is very difficult. If you try to move an injured person, you increase the likelihood that you will injure them further. This is especially true if you drop them. You also increase the risk of injuring *yourself*, such as if you trip while carrying the heavy load. Then you have two injured people to deal with, and one less person able to offer assistance. For these reasons, it’s usually best not to move the victim.  Instead, you call for help or send someone in the group to get help. [![soldiers using an improvised stretcher from jackets to move an injured person](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/improvised-stretcher-evacuating-victim.jpg "improvised stretcher evacuating victim - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/improvised-stretcher-evacuating-victim.jpg) Take a look at the picture above of soldiers carrying a wounded soldier on an improvised stretcher. These are strong, fit men who have gone through physical training and even they are sweating and straining! ### When to Move an Injured Person Wilderness first aid is never clear-cut. There are a lot of factors to consider when deciding whether to move the injured person or wait for help.  The main ones are: 1. **Immediate environmental risks:** If there are risks, such as falling rocks or floods, you should move the victim to a safer location. 2. **Stability of the patient:** If the patient is stable, then it’s usually best to not to move them and wait until help arrives. 3. **Urgency of situation and distance from help:** If the situation isn’t urgent, then you can wait until professional help arrives. If the system is urgent, such as a venomous snake bite and help won’t be able to arrive quickly, it might be better to evacuate the victim. 4. **Number of people who can help and resources:** If you are with a group of highly-trained, fit individuals, evacuation might be the smartest option. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/mountain-rescue.jpg "mountain rescue - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/mountain-rescue.jpg)Most of the time its best to wait for the professionals to come help Mountain Rescue is badass ### Should You Leave the Victim Alone and Go Get Help? As a general rule, you should never leave an injured person alone. If in a group, for example, one person would stay with the victim while another would go get help. But what if there are only two people: the victim and one uninjured person? In this scenario, the uninjured person should stay with the victim and signal for help. However, if the victim is stable and the uninjured person could get help and return fairly quickly (such as well before nightfall), then it makes more sense to leave the victim alone than wait for help to arrive. ## Infographic [![how to make an improvised stretcher infographic](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/improvised-stretchers-infographic-752x1024.jpg "improvised stretchers infographic - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/improvised-stretchers-infographic.jpg) ## Improvised Stretcher FAQ: ### How many people do you need to carry an improvised stretcher? ### It depends on the type. A tarp stretcher needs six people because the sagging material jolts the victim with fewer carriers. A blanket roll stretcher also needs at least six. Pole-based stretchers (blanket-and-poles or jacket stretchers) can sometimes be carried by fewer people since the poles provide more rigid support. ### Should you always move an injured person to safety? ### No — moving an injured person is usually not the best option. It risks further injuring them, and it risks injuring you too, which leaves you with two injured people and one less person to help. Only move the victim if there’s an immediate environmental risk like falling rocks or flooding, or if professional help can’t reach you quickly enough and the situation is urgent. ###### Image credits: “[130922N-VN372-110](https://www.flickr.com/photos/compacflt/9900865286/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [U.S. Pacific Fleet](https://www.flickr.com/people/compacflt/) “[150424-N-SD120-079](https://www.flickr.com/photos/compacflt/17291319731/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [U.S. Pacific Fleet](https://www.flickr.com/people/compacflt/) “[MOUNTAIN RESCUE](https://www.flickr.com/photos/billmorrow/7657559920/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [bill85704](https://www.flickr.com/people/billmorrow/) ###### Resources: <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5962450/>, <https://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/r4/learning/safety-ethics>, <https://www.nps.gov/dena/planyourvisit/survival.htm>, <https://survive-student-resource.austererisk.com/general/anzcor_2_managing_emergency.html>, <https://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=hunting.firstaid>, ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety --- ### [DIY Hiking Pee Cloth (No-Sew Kula Cloth Alternative)](https://momgoescamping.com/diy-hiking-pee-cloth/) **Published:** September 30, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Drip-drying is fine for day hikes.  If you are going hiking for longer though,  things can get funky quickly if you don’t wipe.  I used to pack toilet paper out with me, but then I got sick of carrying tons of TP plus a bag for it.  I tried a bandana, but it got dirty hanging off of my pack and wouldn’t stay dry in the rain.  So, I found a solution in this stupidly-easy new-sew pee cloth for hiking. **Note:** I would have just bought the [Animosa P-Off cloth](https://amzn.to/3CoJ3sF).  Both have nice features like snaps and can clip to your pack. But I live in Eastern Europe and the cost of shipping is insane.  So, I decided to improvise my own pee rag 🙂 [![pee cloth for women backpackers](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/p-cloth.jpg "p cloth - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/p-cloth.jpg)[Animosa P Off cloth](https://amzn.to/3CoJ3sF) above![kula cloth for hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/kula-cloth.jpg "kula cloth - Mom Goes Camping")[Kula cloth](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F182956%2Fkula-cloth-reusable-antimicrobial-pee-cloth) above ## Instructions ### Step 1: Find a Cheap Wallet The plastic and nylon on the outside of the wallet will keep the pee cloth clean and dry.  I used the most ridiculous wallet I could find. ![hiking pee cloth instructions](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/finished-closed-pee-cloth-front-2.jpg "- Mom Goes Camping") ### Step 2: Cut Out Interior of Wallet You don’t need the pockets inside the wallet.  But you *do need the zipper.*  The zipper is what will hold your pee cloth in place. **No zipper on the wallet?**  You’ll need to use a piece of cordage or ribbon.  Sew one side of the ribbon to the top left of the wallet.  Sew the other side of the ribbon to the top right.  Now you have a string going across the wallet where you can hang stuff.[![making pee cloth step 1](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/making-pee-cloth-step-1.jpg "making pee cloth step 1 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/making-pee-cloth-step-1.jpg)[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/making-pee-cloth-step-2.jpg "making pee cloth step 2 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/making-pee-cloth-step-2.jpg) ### Step 3: Get Microfiber Towels I got some small-sized microfiber towels at a local drug store.   They are nice and soft 🙂 [![microfiber clothes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/microfiber-clothes.jpg "microfiber clothes - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/microfiber-clothes.jpg) ### Step 4: Insert the Cloth into the Wallet Insert the cloth so one side is behind the zipper/ribbon.   Then fold it over so the other side is in front of the ribbon.[![diy pee cloth for hiking instructions](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/making-pee-cloth-step-3.jpg "making pee cloth step 3 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/making-pee-cloth-step-3.jpg) ### Step 5: Cut Off Excess Cut off any of the cloth that extends outside of the wallet.  This will screw up the edges of the cloth a bit.  You’ll need to rub the edges to remove fuzz.[![diy pee cloth for hiking instructions](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/making-pee-cloth-step-4.jpg "making pee cloth step 4 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/making-pee-cloth-step-4.jpg) ## Using the Pee Cloth The image below is what the folded pee cloth looks like.  It fits in my hiking pack side pocket.  It managed to stay dry inside even in the pouring rain (though I did screw up and leave it in my wet jacket pocket overnight, and the towel got drenched.)[![diy pee cloth for hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/finished-closed-pee-cloth.jpg "finished closed pee cloth - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/finished-closed-pee-cloth.jpg) I found it really easy to use and especially helpful when I was [backpacking on my period](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-period/).   As it got dirty, I just adjusted the position of the cloth so a clean area was exposed.  On longer trips, I’ll bring at least one backup microfiber clothes to put in it.  I love that I can just toss the clothes into the laundry machine when I get home.  The wallet itself hasn’t started to stink but I could wipe that down if necessary. ## DIY Pee Cloth FAQ: ### How do you clean a pee cloth? ### Toss the microfiber cloth itself in the laundry machine — that’s the part that actually gets dirty. The wallet exterior stays clean since it just holds the cloth; wipe it down occasionally if needed. Bring a spare microfiber cloth on longer trips so you can swap it out. **Do you use a pee cloth?  Let us know your tips in the comments section below!** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Backpacking, Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [Review of Trail Magik Toddler Carrier for Backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/trail-magik-carrier-review/) **Published:** November 9, 2024 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I recently found out about a new hiking carrier called [Trail Magik](https://momgoescamping.com/trail-magik).  Even though the design is really simple, it’s very different than other hiking carriers for kids – and solves the problem of backpacking with toddlers and little walkers. ## Quick Specs: - **Age range:** 1 year to 43lbs - **Carrier weight:** 9.8oz - **Material:** Cordura and nylon webbing - **Colors:** Currently 6 options - **[Buy Here](https://momgoescamping.com/trail-magik) – Use discount code MOMGOES for 10% off** ## What Is the Trail Magik Carrier? The Trail Magik is a tummy-to-tummy infant and toddler backpack carrier made for hiking and backpacking.  What makes it different than other hiking carriers is that **it doesn’t have its own shoulder straps or hip belt**. **Instead, it attaches to your backpack.** [![TrailMagik infant toddler kids carrier. Mother using TrailMagik](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/trailmagik-lightweight-carrier.jpg "trailmagik lightweight carrier - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/trailmagik-lightweight-carrier.jpg) [![Trail Magik hiking carrier for big kids](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/trail-magik-2.jpg "trail magik 2 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/trail-magik-2.jpg) ## How to Use You can’t use the Trail Magik carrier by itself.  Instead, you have to use it with a proper backpack.  By “proper” backpack, I mean one which has a wide hip belt, padding on the shoulder straps and lift-loader straps. To wear, you first attach the bottom of the Trail Magik carrier onto your backpack straps using carabiners.  Then you attach the top part of the carrier to your lift-loader straps.  You then wriggle your child inside and can start hiking. ## What’s Great about the Trail Magik ### It’s Light and Compact Because the Trail Magik uses your backpack’s straps, it doesn’t need its own shoulder straps or hip straps.  This means the Trail Magik carrier is *much lighter* than standard hiking toddler carriers.  It only weighs 9.8oz.  It also packs down really tiny. By contrast, the mei tai carrier I used when hiking with my kid weighed 24oz and took up a huge amount of space in my pack.  The backpack style toddler carrier I used when my kid was older weighed 6lbs and was massive! **Also read: [Soft vs. Framed Child Carriers](https://momgoescamping.com/soft-vs-frame-backpack-hiking-carrier/)** ### You Can Use Your Normal Backpack with It If you use a front hiking carrier, it can be really annoying — or even painful – to wear a backpack.  You end up with two sets of straps on your shoulders and two belts around your waist.  So, the fact that you can wear your normal hiking backpack with the Trail Magik is a big plus. [![Wearing infant child toddler backpack hiking carrier](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/hiking-carrier-plus-backpack.jpg "hiking carrier plus backpack - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/hiking-carrier-plus-backpack.jpg)*This is me wearing a mei tai carrier with a infant backpack Look how many straps I have on me I didnt even bother taking off the backpack during breaks because it would have been annoying to put back on* ### Fast to Put On Compared to other types of hiking carriers, it is really easy to put the Trail Magik on or take it off.  This is wonderful if your child is like mine and wants to hike for 10 minutes, and then wants to be carried again, only to ask to get out again 5 minutes later. With other types of carriers, this would be really annoying.   Mei tai carriers need to be completely rewrapped each time.  Backpack carriers need to be taken completely off and require some maneuvering to lift onto your back. To get your child out of the Trail Magik, you just need to unsnap the top strap (if your kid is little, you might even be able to lift them out without unsnapping).  Since it’s lightweight, you can leave the carrier on until your child wants to hop back in. [![The TrailMagik ultralight hiking carrier](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/trailmagik-ultralight-backpacking-child-carrier.jpg "trailmagik ultralight backpacking child carrier - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/trailmagik-ultralight-backpacking-child-carrier.jpg) [![Hiking infant carrier backpack](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/trail-magik-3.jpg "trail magik 3 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/trail-magik-3.jpg)Just let the carrier hang while your kids run around Its quick to get them back inside ### Carry Two Kids At Once I’ve seen parents tandem carrying their kids using two carriers.  It never looks particularly comfortable.  It would be easier with the Trail Magik because you can attach it to your backpack-type hiking carrier. ### Can Use with Big Kids The Trail Magik is one of the only hiking carriers for big kids.  In addition to hiking, parents who have kids with disabilities would probably find it useful. [![hiking toddler backpack](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/trail-magik-with-big-kid.jpg "trail magik with big kid - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/trail-magik-with-big-kid.jpg) ### Price Child hiking and infant backpack carriers can be incredibly expensive. While the Trail Magik carrier isn’t exactly cheap, it is a LOT cheaper than a infant backpack style carrier.  You’ll probably get more use out of it too because it’s easy to take with you on hikes. **\*Remember that you’ll get [10% off Trail Magik if you buy here](https://momgoescamping.com/trail-magik).** ## The Downsides ### Not Very Versatile You can only use the Trail Magik as a tummy-to-tummy front carrier.  You can’t put your child so they are front-facing.  Nor can you use it on your back. ### You Must Use It with a Proper Hiking Backpack This is actually the biggest drawback of the Trail Magik for my family.  I  wear my massive 55L backpack until we get to base camp.  Then I use my older daughter’s 28L hiking pack for our day trips.   Even though her pack does have load lifter straps, it isn’t sturdy enough to be used with the Trail Magik. I doubt the Trail Magik would work with a lot of ultralight backpacks since they are made out of more delicate materials.  You really need something with good structure to it. ### Not the Most Comfortable Carrier Compared to backpack-type carriers, the Trail Magik isn’t very comfortable to wear long distances.  Plus, front-carrying can really put you off balance when on difficult terrain. The Trail Magik is better for giving your child a short break – *not* for carrying them the entire hike. [![best carrier for toddler dad father carrying child](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/trail-magik-with-bigger-kids.jpg "trail magik with bigger kids - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/trail-magik-with-bigger-kids.jpg)*It would be more comfortable to carry a big kid like this in a backpack carrier* ### Difficult to Use with Big Kids Even though you can use the Trail Magik with children up to 43lbs, it isn’t ideal for kids this big: - It’s hard to carry this much weight in the front. - Their feet end up dangling down your sides, which makes it difficult to use hiking poles. - If your child is tall, their head may block your view. To be fair, these downsides apply to *all* front hiking carriers.  It’s simply easier to carry big kids on your back in a framed carrier. Front carrying is definitely doable and better than carrying your kid in your *arms.* And the Trail Magik may be better than carrying a massive backpack carrier for your entire trip “just in case” your child gets tired.  **But be realistic about your ability to carry 40lbs on your front!** In the video below, you can see what it’s like to put a 4 ½ year old in the Trail Magik.That’s one hardcore mama! 😀 ## Trail Magik Carrier FAQ: ### What backpack do you need to use the Trail Magik? ### You need a proper hiking backpack with a wide hip belt, padded shoulder straps, and load-lifter straps. The Trail Magik attaches to these straps using carabiners. Ultralight backpacks generally won’t work — you need something with good structure. Day packs are also usually not sturdy enough. ### How much does the Trail Magik weigh? ### Just 9.8oz, which makes it one of the lightest toddler hiking carriers available. By comparison, a mei tai carrier weighs around 24oz and a framed backpack carrier can weigh 6lbs or more. ### Can you use the Trail Magik for the whole hike? ### It’s not ideal for long-distance carrying. The Trail Magik is best for giving your child a short break while they mostly walk on their own — not for carrying them the entire hike. For full-hike carrying, a framed backpack carrier is more comfortable. ## The Verdict? **The Trail Magik carrier is an awesome solution for backpacking with little kids who mostly walk on their own but still need to be carried sometimes.**  But, if you are going to be carrying your child for the entirety of a long hike, you probably need a [backpack carrier](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-child-carrier-petite-women/) or a [hiking stroller](https://momgoescamping.com/all-terrain-strollers-hiking/). **[Get the Trail Magik carrier here](https://momgoescamping.com/trail-magik).** **Use discount code MOMGOES for 10% off** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** carriers --- ### [Bear Spray 101: Best Brands, How to Use, Most Effective Way to Carry, Common Mistakes and More](https://momgoescamping.com/bear-spray/) **Published:** October 8, 2025 **Author:** Diane **Content:** The risk of a bear attack while outdoors is incredibly low. However, this doesn’t mean you shouldn’t practice [bear safety](https://momgoescamping.com/bear-safety/) tactics when in bear country, one of which is carrying bear spray. There are a lot of misconceptions around bear spray though, and also a lot of mistakes which can result in injuries. After years of camping and hiking in bear country – from Yellowstone to the backcountry of Montana – I’ve learned that having bear spray isn’t enough. You need to understand how to choose it, carry it, and (most importantly) actually use it under pressure. Here’s everything I wish someone had told me before my first grizzly encounter. **Table of Contents:** - [What Is Bear Spray?](#what) - [Best Brands of Bear Spray](#brands) - [Most Effective Way to Carry Bear Spray](#carry) - [Does Bear Spray Work?](#work) - [How to Use Bear Spray](#use) - [Common Bear Spray Mistakes](#mistakes) ## What Is Bear Spray? Bear spray contains a high concentration of capsaicinoids – the compounds that make peppers spicy. When sprayed at a bear, it irritates the animal’s eyes, nose, and respiratory system. The goal is to temporarily incapacitate the bear, giving you critical seconds to leave safely. Think of it as creating an invisible wall of intense irritation between you and the bear. It doesn’t harm the bear permanently, but it definitely gets their attention and changes their behavior. ### Bear Repellent vs. Bear Spray Even though it’s sometimes called bear repellent, bear spray is not actually a repellent – and this distinction matters. Bear repellents are preventative measures that help you avoid encounters altogether. Talking, singing, making noise with trekking poles, or using air horns are all repellents because they either keep bears away or scare them off when you spot them at a distance. Bear spray, by contrast, is a defensive tool. It’s your last line of defense when a bear is displaying aggressive behavior, charging, or attacking. You don’t spray it around your campsite or on your gear to keep bears away – that’s a common and dangerous misconception. Also read: [Which Bear Repellents Work?](https://momgoescamping.com/bear-repellent/) ### Bear Spray vs. Pepper Spray Both bear spray and pepper spray contain the same active ingredients, but they’re designed for completely different situations. Here’s what makes them different: **Strength:** Bear spray contains 1-2% major capsaicinoids (the maximum allowed by EPA regulations), making it suitable for deterring large mammals. Pepper spray for human defense typically contains a similar concentration but is formulated differently. **Spray Pattern:** Bear spray releases a large fog or cloud, making it much easier to hit a charging 400-pound animal that’s moving at 35 mph. You don’t need pinpoint accuracy. Pepper spray releases a stream or smaller fog pattern that requires more precise aim. **Spray Volume:** Bear spray releases approximately 1 ounce per second in one continuous stream. Pepper spray releases much less – about 0.1 to 0.2 ounces per second in shorter bursts. **Range:** According to EPA regulations, bear spray must reach at least 25 feet. Pepper spray usually maxes out at 6 to 12 feet. **Size:** Pepper spray comes in small, keychain-sized canisters. Bear spray requires larger canisters (minimum 7.6 ounces) because you need enough volume to stop a large animal. I couldn’t find any credible cases where consumer-grade pepper spray successfully stopped a charging bear. Could it work? Maybe. Would it be better than nothing? Absolutely. But if you’re knowingly heading into bear country, don’t rely on pepper spray. Get proper bear spray. Also read: [Bear Spray Alternatives](https://momgoescamping.com/bear-spray-alternatives/) ![Comparison of pepper spray and bear spray canisters](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/pepper-spray-vs-bear-spray.jpg) ![Bear spray range demonstration](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/bear-spray-range.jpg) ## Best Brands of Bear Spray In the United States, the EPA regulates bear spray. For a product to be legally sold as bear spray, it must meet these specific requirements: - Contains 1-2% major capsaicinoids - Minimum content of 7.6 ounces - Minimum range of 25 feet - Shotgun cloud spray pattern (also called fog pattern) - Spray duration of at least 6 seconds Any EPA-approved bear spray will work effectively. Look for the EPA registration number on the canister to verify it’s legitimate. However, some brands offer features that might better suit your specific needs. **Consider these factors:** **Canister Size:** Larger canisters spray longer and usually have better range. But they’re also heavier and bulkier – something that matters when you’re backpacking 15 miles. I typically use the standard 7.9-ounce size for day hikes and weekend trips. **Holster Quality:** Most bear sprays come with a holster, but not all holsters are created equal. A good holster makes a huge difference in comfort and deployment speed. More on this below. **Strength:** The top brands contain 2% active capsaicinoids – the maximum legal limit. There’s no reason to choose anything less potent. **Range:** While 25 feet is the minimum, longer range gives you more reaction time. Look for sprays that reach 30+ feet. ### EPA-Approved Bear Spray Brands | Brand | Size | Range | Strength | |---|---|---|---| | [Sabre Frontiersman](https://amzn.to/3TG9Yt4) | 7.9oz / 9.2oz | 30-35 feet | 2.0% | | [UDAP Pepper Power](https://amzn.to/3RVPawi) | 7.9oz | 30 feet | 2.0% | | [UDAP Pepper Power Magnum](https://amzn.to/47nEBqo) | 13.4oz | 30 feet | 2.0% | | [UDAP 18HP](https://amzn.to/48yuPCB) | 13.4oz | 35 feet | 1.84% | | [Counter Assault](https://amzn.to/3tBQ6wn) | 8.1oz / 10.2oz | 30-40 feet | 2.0% | **My recommendation:** I personally use [Frontiersman](https://amzn.to/47i6sIl) because they offer excellent quick-draw hip belt and chest holster options. The holster quality alone makes it worth the investment. If you’re thru-hiking in serious grizzly country where retreat isn’t always possible, consider the larger 10.2-ounce [Counter Assault](https://amzn.to/3TBe5GH) (also available at [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dbear%2Bspray)) for its impressive 40-foot range, or the [UDAP 13.4-ounce canister](https://amzn.to/48yuPCB) which can be deployed multiple times before emptying. ## Most Effective Way to Carry Bear Spray Here’s the hard truth: bear spray is completely useless if you can’t access it in 2-3 seconds. Do NOT pack it in your backpack. Do NOT bury it in a side pocket. You MUST have it immediately accessible at all times. This means wearing the bear spray in a belt or chest holster attached to your body. I prefer chest holsters for hiking because they don’t interfere with my stride or catch on obstacles when I’m scrambling over deadfall. But it’s a personal preference – some people find hip holsters more comfortable. ![Bear spray in hip belt holster](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/bear-spray-on-hip-belt.jpg) ![Keep bear spray with you at all times](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/bear-spray-take-with-you-everywhere-even-to-the-bathroom.jpg) ### Do NOT Attach the Holster to Your Backpack I see this mistake all the time: people clip their bear spray holster to their backpack’s hip belt or shoulder strap. While this keeps the spray accessible while hiking, it creates a dangerous gap in protection. Think about when you actually take your pack off. Pee breaks. Water breaks. Setting up camp. Filtering water from a stream. Cooking dinner. Taking photos at a scenic overlook. All moments when bears could appear, and your pack – with the bear spray – is sitting on the ground several feet away. I learned this lesson the hard way when I took my pack off to photograph wildflowers and spotted fresh grizzly scat less than 20 feet away. My bear spray was clipped to my pack, which was leaning against a tree behind me. It was a wake-up call. For these reasons, a hip belt or chest holster attached to your body is essential. [Learn how to make your own DIY bear spray holster](https://momgoescamping.com/diy-bear-spray-holster/) if you can’t find one that works for you. ![Park ranger wearing bear spray in chest holster](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/bear-spray-yellowstone-ranger-with-sternum-strap-holster.jpg) The same principle applies to cyclists and mountain bikers. There are holsters designed for water bottle cages or handlebars, but these only keep spray accessible while you’re riding. Every time you dismount – to push your bike up a steep section, take a break, or fix a mechanical issue – you need to transfer the spray to a body-worn holster. The [bottle holder cage](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B6B83HTN?tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) shown above is designed to hold bear spray canisters securely on your bike. ![Bear spray mounted on bicycle](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/bear-spray-on-bikers.jpg) ### Best Bear Spray Holsters A quality bear spray holster should meet three critical criteria: - Hold the canister securely (it shouldn’t fall out when you’re climbing or scrambling) - Allow for lightning-fast deployment - Operate silently **Avoid Velcro holsters.** This is important. While Velcro does secure the canister, it makes a distinctive ripping sound every time you draw the spray. If a bear hasn’t noticed you yet, that sound can startle it into defensive behavior. Wildlife biologist Maurice Hornocker described this exact scenario in his book. He encountered a bear and reached for his spray. The Velcro made its characteristic “chrrrrt” sound in the quiet forest, startling the bear. The bear immediately reared up on its hind legs and wheeled toward him – exactly what you don’t want. Unfortunately, most horizontal-carry holsters (also called cross-draw or trail-runner holsters) use Velcro. Look for holsters with elastic retention straps instead. ![Counter Assault bear spray holster](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/counter-assault-bear-spray-holster.jpg) The [Mystery Ranch holster](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09PL72L6X?tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) shown above is my top choice. It’s quick-draw, uses an elastic cord instead of Velcro, and the design keeps the safety clip secure. I particularly appreciate this last feature because I’ve had safety clips fall off while climbing over rocks – not a situation you want to discover when you actually need the spray. Yes, it’s pricey, but if you spend significant time in bear country, it’s worth the investment. ## Does Bear Spray Actually Work? Bear spray is currently considered the most effective self-defense tool against bears. While nothing is 100% effective, extensive research shows that bear spray stops or prevents aggressive bear behavior in over 90% of encounters. The statistics are compelling: In close-range encounters with bears, 98% of people carrying bear spray were uninjured. By contrast, people using firearms to defend themselves were injured 50% of the time. Even when bear spray didn’t completely prevent an attack, it consistently shortened the duration and reduced the severity of injuries. As Chuck Bartlebaugh, director of Be Bear Aware, noted: “I’m not aware of any case, among many I’ve reviewed, of a person dying when deploying bear spray the way it is supposed to be used.” ### Does Bear Spray Work on Other Animals? The Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife states that bear spray will work against almost all wild mammals. While there’s limited formal research on bear spray’s effectiveness against other species, here’s what we know: **Dogs:** Pepper spray was originally developed to protect postal workers from aggressive dogs, so yes, bear spray will definitely work on dogs. However, because bear spray is stronger than dog spray, it could severely harm a domestic dog. If you’re not in wilderness areas, use dog spray instead – it contains 1% capsaicinoids (versus up to 2% in bear spray) and shoots in a stream rather than a fog. **Wolves:** Wolves have an even keener sense of smell than dogs, making them likely more sensitive to bear spray. Some wolf management specialists recommend carrying it in wolf territory. **Mountain Lions and Bobcats:** Zookeepers have successfully used pepper spray on large cats including African lions, tigers, and jaguars. It’s reasonable to assume bear spray would be effective against cougars and bobcats as well. **Moose and Elk:** There are documented cases of moose being deterred by bear spray. The Alaska Department of Fish and Game states that as a last resort, pepper spray will often move a moose blocking your path or provide protection if one charges. **Humans:** Bear spray will absolutely incapacitate a human – it’s stronger than standard pepper spray. However, because it’s specifically formulated for wildlife defense, using it against a person could open you up to legal liability. Bear spray is for bears, not human attackers. ## How to Use Bear Spray Bear spray is a last resort tool for aggressive bears. Most bear encounters don’t require any spray at all. Simply announcing your presence by talking in a calm, firm voice and slowly waving your arms overhead while backing away is usually enough. [Learn more about what to do during a bear encounter](https://momgoescamping.com/bear-safety/). If the bear shows signs of aggression or begins to charge, here’s exactly what to do. ### Important: Remove the Safety Ties BEFORE You Go Out When you buy bear spray, it comes with plastic zip ties securing the safety clip. You MUST cut and remove these ties before hitting the trail. I’ve met hikers who carried bear spray for an entire week without realizing the safety was still zip-tied. In an actual encounter, they would have been unable to deploy the spray. Take 30 seconds before your trip to remove those ties. Your future self will thank you. ![Bear spray with safety ties still attached](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/bear-spray-safety-ties.jpg) ### Step-by-Step Deployment **1. Withdraw the canister and remove the safety clip.** Even if the bear isn’t displaying aggressive behavior yet, remove your bear spray immediately so it’s ready. Bear spray canisters have a safety clip over the trigger. Pull it back with your thumb. Practice this at home so you can do it without looking down. **2. Hold the canister with TWO hands.** You only need one hand to press the trigger, but using two hands prevents common mistakes: - Spraying hand: Grip the top of the canister. Your index finger goes through the trigger loop, thumb on the trigger. - Support hand: Hold the bottom of the can with your elbow bent. This two-handed position prevents you from accidentally spraying the back of your non-spraying hand (which happens more often than you’d think). It also stabilizes the canister and improves your aim when your hands are shaking from adrenaline. ![Proper two-handed bear spray grip technique](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/bear-spray-proper-hold-method.jpg) **3. Aim downward in front of the bear.** Your instinct will be to aim straight ahead at eye level. Resist this urge. Aiming parallel to your line of sight will send the spray sailing over the bear’s head. Instead, aim downward toward the ground in front of the charging bear. You want to create a cloud of spray that the bear runs through, not try to hit a moving target. ![Bear spray deployment demonstration](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/testing-bear-spray.jpg) **4. Account for wind.** Ideally, you’re upwind from the bear. If wind is blowing toward you, try to sidestep so it’s not blowing directly into your face. In a crosswind, aim slightly into the wind so the spray drifts into the bear’s path. This is easier said than done when your heart is pounding, but it’s worth keeping in mind. **5. Spray a warning burst when the bear is 30-60 feet away.** Fire a 1-2 second burst when the bear is still 30-60 feet away. Often, this single burst is enough to deter a bear. DO NOT WAIT until the bear is close to start spraying. This is critical. Bears can run 35-45 miles per hour. If you wait until the bear is at the 25-foot minimum range, it will cover that distance before the spray takes effect. You’ll end up with an angry, pepper-sprayed bear on top of you. **6. Continue spraying in bursts if the bear keeps coming.** If the bear continues approaching, keep spraying in 1-2 second bursts. Use a side-to-side or zigzag motion to create a large cloud of spray. Unless the bear is actively charging, resist emptying the entire canister. Save spray for close-range defense if needed. **7. Keep spraying until the bear stops or retreats.** As the bear gets closer, aim directly for its face. Keep deploying spray until the bear stops its aggressive behavior. **8. Leave the area immediately.** Once the bear stops or retreats, back away slowly. Don’t run or make sudden movements. Keep watching the bear to ensure it’s not following. Leave the area quickly, traveling in a different direction from where the bear went. Report the incident to park rangers or wildlife officials. If you’re on a multi-day backpacking trip and can’t completely exit the area, hike at least a mile away. Bears sometimes return to the same spot after being sprayed, so don’t set up camp anywhere nearby. [Learn more about keeping bears away from your campsite](https://momgoescamping.com/keep-bears-away-campsite/). **9. Clean off bear spray residue.** Here’s the reality: Unless you’re lucky enough to have the wind in your favor, you’re going to get bear spray on yourself. It will get in your eyes, nose, and mouth. Your skin will feel like it’s on fire. It will coat your clothes and gear. Standard advice for cleaning pepper spray (whole milk on skin, wash with soap, rinse eyes with saline) isn’t feasible in the backcountry. Here’s what actually works: - **Clean your eyes first:** Use sterile water without touching your eyes. Wear gloves from your first aid kit, or improvise gloves from plastic bags. - **Strip completely:** Get out of all contaminated clothing. Seal it in a plastic bag and don’t touch it again until you can wash it properly. - **Scrub with soap:** Bear spray is oil-based, so water alone won’t remove it. Use dish soap if you have it – it’s designed to break down oils. - **Use oil to break down residue:** If soap and water aren’t available, use cooking oil, oil-based cream, or petroleum jelly on toilet paper to wipe affected skin. This breaks down the capsaicin oils. Wash with soap afterward if possible. - **Clean gear with alcohol:** If you carry alcohol for a camp stove, use it to remove bear spray residue from gear. For proper food storage after a bear encounter, check out my guide on [how to hang a food bag](https://momgoescamping.com/hang-food-bag/) or [compare bear canisters vs. Ursack](https://momgoescamping.com/bear-canister-vs-ursack/) for your next trip. ## Common Bear Spray Mistakes ### Not Practicing with the Bear Spray This is the single biggest mistake people make, and I’m guilty of it myself early in my camping years. Bear encounters happen fast. You need to access and deploy your spray within seconds while adrenaline floods your system. That’s impossible without practice. If you’ve ever actually deployed bear spray (I used a practice canister), you’ll be surprised by how forceful the recoil is. It can cause you to aim too high, completely missing your target. Most brands sell inert practice canisters – they’re identical to real bear spray but without the capsaicin. It’s worth every penny. **Practice these skills:** - Drawing the spray from your holster quickly - Removing the safety in the dark or without looking - Proper aiming technique - Firing while keeping your eyes on target - Adjusting for different wind conditions Sabre makes an [inert practice canister](https://amzn.to/3TLo4cF) specifically for training. ### Test Firing Your Actual Bear Spray While practicing is essential, never test fire the actual canister you’re taking into bear country. Most bear spray canisters contain only 7-9 seconds of spray total. The first burst is the most powerful – after that initial spray, the canister loses over half its pressure. If you’ve test fired your canister, you won’t have enough spray left to effectively repel an attack. The reduced pressure might not propel the spray far enough to reach a charging bear. ![Testing bear spray](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/test-firing-bear-spray.jpg) ### Not Having One Canister Per Person Bear spray costs around $50 per canister, which adds up for a group. But trying to save money by sharing one canister among multiple hikers is dangerous. First, you’re not together every moment of your trip. I don’t bring company on bathroom breaks, and I often wander away from camp to photograph wildlife or explore. Second, stopping an aggressive bear sometimes requires more than one canister – especially if the first was deployed too early, aimed incorrectly, or affected by wind. Multiple people with bear spray dramatically increases everyone’s safety. The more bear spray in your group, the better protected you are. ![UDAP bear spray set](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/udap-bear-spray.jpg) [This set](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FQWVM2S/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07FQWVM2S&linkId=1c21a61830b0a1d5e867f1151f7c4100) includes two canisters and two holsters. ### Using Expired Bear Spray Bear spray has a shelf life of approximately 4 years. Unlike food expiration dates, this is something you need to take seriously. The capsaicin remains potent for many years, but the propellant that shoots the spray starts leaking and weakening over time. One study found that bear spray brands lost 0.65 to 1.92 grams of propellant per year. Expired spray won’t shoot as far or with as much force – potentially leaving you defenseless when you need it most. What should you do with expired bear spray? Use it as your practice canister. ### Keeping Bear Spray in Your Car Those warnings about bear spray exploding in hot cars? They’re not exaggerating. There’s the case of a canister that exploded and shredded its holster. Another where the heat turned bear spray into what the owner described as “a spice missile that shattered the windshield and coated the interior in no-no foam.” Then there’s the nightmare scenario: A canister left in a car after a camping trip ended up wedged under the passenger seat. Months later, the passenger tried to move the seat back while the car was moving and punctured the canister. The driver somehow avoided crashing, but it could have been catastrophic. The moral? Take those heat warnings seriously. Don’t leave bear spray in hot cars, and put it away in a cool, dry place immediately after your trip. --- **Want bear safety info in PRINTABLE format?** Then you need my Camping Cheat Sheets. 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Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety --- ### [17 Important Tips for Hiking in Winter](https://momgoescamping.com/tips-hiking-winter/) **Published:** November 9, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Getting outdoors in cold winter weather is definitely much more of a challenge or, at the very least, a bit of a hassle.  But if you are willing to put forth the effort to go hiking in winter, you’ll be rewarded with beautiful views and trails that are refreshingly free of crowds. Here are 17 incredibly important tips for hiking in winter to ensure you enjoy the experience and stay safe too. ## 1.  Layer Properly By now, you should know that you need to wear layered clothing when hiking. Winter requires a slightly different layering system than in shoulder seasons though.  Instead of three layers, you’ll probably need to wear four.  Essentially, you are putting an extra insulating layer on your upper body to stay warm. **Upper Body Layers:** - **Base layer:** Preferably a wool base layer shirt with a zip collar so you can unzip to vent. Polyester base layers also work but get stinky very quickly. - **Mid layer 1:** A mid or heavy-weight fleece. - **Mid layer 2:** A puffy jacket is preferred. I sometimes wear a wool hoodie, though it’s a bit heavy and bulky. - **Shell:** It needs to be breathable, water-resistant, and windproof. Usually this means choosing a soft-shell jacket. If it’s going to be raining or sleeting, you’ll want to choose a rain jacket instead of a soft-shell. **Bottom Layers:** Your legs don’t lose heat as quickly as your core does, so you usually only need three layers on your lower body. - **Base layer:** Also preferably wool. - **Mid layer:** Fleece pants are great for this. Choose mid or heavy-weight fleece depending on the weather. - **Shell layer:** Soft-shell pants protect you from water and wind. Some are already insulated so you can skip the mid layer. You can also get away with wearing rain pants as your shell, but you’ll need to have a very warm mid layer. **Notes:** - Be careful about wearing a down puffy jacket as your mid layer. They are useless if they get wet. Synthetic is better in many cases. - You’ll also need a buff and a hat **Also read: [The 3-Layer Clothing System Explained](https://momgoescamping.com/3-layers-clothing-system/)** ## 2. Layering Applies to Your Hands and Feet Too Just like you need to wear layers on your body, you need to layer your hands and feet too.  For your hands, this means wearing a liner glove (wicking to prevent sweating), an insulating glove, and a shell mitten.  For your feet, you’ll need a liner stock and insulating socks.  Your boots act as the shell layer. Because our hands and feet succumb to frostbite so quickly – especially if wet — it’s really important that you have spare liner and insulating gloves and socks.  If you don’t want to bring a spare shell mitten, then make sure your mitts are attached to your jacket sleeves.  This will prevent you from losing them when you take them off to open your water bottle, use GPS, etc. Read more about [winter hiking gloves and layering methods](https://momgoescamping.com/best-winter-hiking-gloves/) here. ## 3. Wear Gaiters When walking through high snow, some snow will fall into your boots and melt, causing your feet to get wet.  Gaiters help solve this problem so your feet stay dry and warm. Read about [how to keep your feet dry while hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/keep-feet-dry-hiking/).  The post is about rainy weather but the tips also apply to hiking in winter. ## 4. Know Which Gear is Mandatory ![winter hiker with snowshoes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/PIXNIO-195734-900x600.jpg "winter hiker with snowshoes - Mom Goes Camping") Winter hiking conditions can change quickly and drastically – like going from bare trails at base to deep snow drifts or massive ice sheets as you get higher up.  Without the right gear, some of these areas might be completely impassible.   Do your research about what trail conditions can be like on the hike and make sure you’ve got the right gear. **This winter hiking gear includes:** - **Trekking poles:** These are always mandatory when hiking in winter! You can also [argue ](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-poles-pros-cons/)that they should be mandatory regardless of the season. - **Snow shoes:** You’ll need snow shoes for snow over 6 to 8 inches. - **Crampons:** These are for hiking on icy inclines or slopes. They are large and provide aggressive traction. - **Microspikes:** Similar to crampons, these are better suited for flat terrain.  They are lighter weight, easier to pack and can quickly be put on when needed. - **Ice pick:** On more extreme hikes, you might even need an ice pick to get up trails. **Tip:** Make sure you practice hiking in crampons – both uphill and downhill – before you actually take them on a winter hike.  You can easily injure yourself if you don’t know how to use them. ## 5. Winterize Your Emergency Kit Responsible hikers will always bring basic emergency supplies with them in case they have to spend an unplanned night outside.    Bad things – like getting lost or injured – are more likely in winter, so it’s even more imperative that you have everything you need to survive an emergency. In addition to the normal emergency hiking gear, you’ll need items like: hand warmers, chocolate (for hypothermia treatment), spare GPS batteries, spare headlamp batteries, stove and fuel which can be used in cold weather, and waterproof [fire starters](https://thepreppingguide.com/11-ways-to-make-fire/). Don’t forget about emergency items for your car too.  You might get back from the hike only to discover your car battery is dead, the vehicle is stuck in snow, or some other issue that leaves you stranded.  I’ve got items like a shovel, cat litter (for traction), warm sleeping bags, change of clothing, and emergency food and water in our vehicle. **Read:** - [Hiking emergency kit checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-packing-list/) - [First aid kit checklist for hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-first-aid-kit-checklist/) ## 6. Navigation Even in mild conditions, navigating in winter can be a challenge because snow can make it hard to see trails.  In difficult conditions – such as snowstorms or complete whiteouts – navigation can be nearly impossible.    You will get disoriented and can get completely lost.  While I generally prefer a map and compass for navigation, a GPS definitely has its place in winter. **Tip:** Make sure you mark where you parked your car on the GPS before you start the hike.  I’ve heard stories of people coming back from their hike in heavy snow and not being able to find their car, even when it was only 20 feet in front of them. ## 7. Choose the Right Water Bottle When hiking in sub-freezing weather, you can have serious issues with your water bottle like: - Water completely freezes as you hike - Frozen water in the threads cause the bottle lid to freeze shut - The bottle cracks and then leaks when it starts to melt - Have to remove your mittens to remove the lid, meaning your hands lose warmth each time you take a drink To solve these problems, it’s important that you get the right water bottle. Ideally, you’d get a good insulated thermos with a flip-top or a wide-mouth sturdy bottle with an insulated sleeve. Read about [water bottles for winter hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/water-bottles-insulators-winter/) here. ## 8. Allow a Lot More Time Normally, you should allow 20 minutes for each mile plus 60 minutes for every 2,000 meters of ascent.  In snowy or icy conditions though, it is going to take much longer to complete a hike.  According to “Tranter’s Correction”, a hike which normally takes 3 hours will take almost 5 hours in bad weather. This is incredibly important to know, especially because it gets dark so early in winter.  You don’t want to be caught out on the trail at nighttime. Read more about how to [calculate how long it will take to complete a hike](https://momgoescamping.com/how-long-complete-hike/). ## 9. Have a Cold Start A big mistake many winter hikers make is starting their hike bundled up and warm.  Then they start hiking, their body produces heat and they begin to sweat. Sweat = wet = coldness and potential hypothermia. Instead, you should make sure to have a cold start.  Wear just enough layers so you feel chilly.  You’ll warm up quickly. ## 10. Get Shells On Quickly When You Stop Just like how your body warms up quickly when hiking, it loses heat quickly once you stop.  As soon as you stop, make sure to put on your shell layers to trap all that heat your body made. ## 11. Attach All Gear with Carabiners or Guylines It is incredibly difficult to use gear while wearing mittens or gloves.  You *will* drop gear, which may mean it breaks or gets lost in a snow drift.  Prevent this by attaching everything important (GPS, water bottle, shell mittens…) to your backpack straps or jacket. ## 12. Vaseline Your Exposed Skin Hiking in cold weather means your lips will get chapped.  Your nose will start to drip and the snot will crack the skin around your nose.  The chapped, cracked red skin isn’t just unsightly but also can be downright painful. Do yourself a favor and put Vaseline over any areas of skin which is exposed.  I personally don’t like Vaseline much (it blocks my pores and gives me breakouts) but did find a nice beeswax-based balm to use. ## 13. Keep Batteries Warm Alkaline and rechargeable batteries do not perform well when they get near freezing temperatures.  Lithium batteries tend to handle cold better but even these don’t perform at their best in extreme cold.   Bottom line, expect batteries to drain much faster or even have issues with the device not working at all. Keep devices and spare batteries somewhere like an interior jacket pocket so they won’t freeze.  And it’s smart to bring more spare batteries than you normally would so your important devices don’t die when you need them most. ## 14. Consider a Butt Pad I like to take a lot of breaks while hiking.  Normally, I will just sit on a fallen tree, big rock, or whatever.  In winter though, it is too cold to sit just anywhere.  If I sit on snow, my butt will get wet (even with shell pants on). The easy solution is to bring a small foam pad for sitting on.  Yes, it does add weight and bulk to your pack but makes breaks much more enjoyable. ## 15. Use Sunglasses and Sunscreen The sun gets incredibly intense on clear days when it reflects against the snow, especially at high elevations.  Without sunglasses, the light can blind you and you’ll have to squint to see the trail.  And if you forget to put on sunblock, you could end up with a terrible burn on your face.  If you wore sunglasses but forgot the sunblock, you’ll end up looking like a raccoon from the white patch over your eyes. ## 16. Don’t Go Alone And if you absolutely have to hike alone in winter, then make sure you’ve told people where you are going and when you expect to be back (something that’s smart to do regardless of the season).  You should also really consider an [emergency communication device](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-communication-devices/) so you can call for help. ## 17. Be Prepared to Turn Back Don’t let your ego get in the way of better judgment. If you come across dangerous conditions, are going much slower than anticipated, get wet, or simply aren’t having a good time, then TURN BACK.  You really don’t want to be one of the many people who have to call Mountain Rescue Services or die in the cold because you didn’t readjust your plans and get off the trail at the first signs of trouble. --- ###### Resources: <https://www.mountain.rescue.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/2017MREWIncidentReport.pdf> <https://www.walkhighlands.co.uk/news/the-swiss-cheese/0018025/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/photography/comments/7fopb5/keeping_batteries_warm_in_extreme_cold/> <https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/263036/why-charging-li-ion-batteries-in-cold-temperatures-would-harm-them> <http://www.nemountaineering.com/blog/2016/04/26/traction-selecting-footwear-traction-for-your-hike/> <https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php/160424-Winter-tips> <https://14ers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=53375> ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking **Tags:** cold, hiking, winter --- ### [Winter Hiking: How to Keep Your Hands Warm](https://momgoescamping.com/winter-hiking-keep-hands-warm/) **Published:** December 14, 2024 **Author:** Diane **Content:** There’s a lot to love about hiking in winter, but cold hands is not one of them.  Not only can cold hands make your hike miserable, but it can be downright dangerous – such as if you start hiking with your hands in your pockets to warm them up (a fall risk!) or end up with frostbite. You don’t have to suffer cold hands on winter hikes though.  Here’s a practical guide to help you master the science of warm hands when hiking in the extreme cold. ## 1. Use Mittens, Not Gloves In really cold temperatures, you will need to use mittens instead of gloves.  Mittens are warmer than gloves because they encase all the fingers together, allowing them to share heat.  By contrast, gloves isolate each finger. This increases the surface area exposed to cold and heat loss. The downside of mittens, however, is that they don’t allow you to use your fingers.  If you need to do tasks with your hands (such as checking GPS or taking photos), then gloves are the better choice.  Or, choose three-finger gloves to get the best of both. [![Best for Hiking - Outdoor Research Highcamp 3 Finger Mitts](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41gI1Vj89pL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D6XVJB9?tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1)Three finger gloves [like these](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D6XVJB9?tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) trap heat while still giving you some finger dexterity. ## 2. Waterproof Is Mandatory Wet hands are cold hands! And your mittens can easily get wet in cold temperatures, such as when snow falls onto them and melts from your body heat.  So absolutely get waterproof mittens for your hike. ## 3. Layer Your Hands Just like you need to [wear three layers](https://momgoescamping.com/3-layers-clothing-system/) on your body to stay warm, you also need to wear layers on your hands. These three layers are: 1. **Liner glove:** This is your hands’ base layer. Its purpose is to wick sweat away so your hands stay dry. The liner glove should be made from synthetic material or wool. Avoid cotton gloves! 2. **Insulation glove/mitt:** This is what actually keeps your hands warm. It’s usually made from synthetic insulation or fleece. Wool is also great as it insulates even when wet. 3. **Waterproof mitt:** This is your shell layer. It keeps your insulation layer dry. It would be really annoying to put three layers on your hands. So, most shell mittens also have an insulation layer.  Sometimes the insulation layer is removable, which makes drying mitts easier and also allows for more versatility in wearing. **Also read: [Best Insulated Shell Mittens](https://momgoescamping.com/best-insulated-shell-mittens/)** ## 4. Change Liner Gloves Frequently Compared to the rest of the body, our hands produce a lot of sweat.  The sweat can easily drench your liner gloves, causing the insulation layer to get wet.  When this happens, the insulation loses its loft and won’t keep your hands warm.  Plus, your hands also lose heat because of evaporation. To prevent this, bring extra liner gloves and change them frequently.  You will need *at least* one extra pair of liners.  If doing intense trekking, snowshoeing or other winter sports, you could easily go through three pairs of liner gloves during the day. ## 5. Size the Mittens Correctly Since you will be wearing three layers on your hands(a base, insulation, and shell), you will need the combo to come together perfectly.  If the layers are too tight, it will compress the insulation and cut off circulation – meaning your hands get cold.  It’s also particularly hard to get cold hands into tight gloves! ## 6. Consider Your Water Bottle Most water bottles and thermoses are not glove-friendly, so a lot of people end up removing their mittens to open the bottle.  Each time they do this, they lose some heat and risk getting their hands wet. Instead, get a water bottle or thermos that you can open even with mittens on. Here are some [good winter water bottles](https://momgoescamping.com/water-bottles-insulators-winter/). [![YETI Rambler Insulated, Bottle with Chug Cap](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/31LY79GYuPL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0842S56G8?tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1)The [Yeti Rambler](https://amzn.to/478r3yN) insulated bottle has a mitten-friendly cap and spill-proof spout. ## 7. Use Latex Gloves as Vapor Barriers A vapor barrier liner (VBL) is a waterproof material which you wear over your base layer. It prevents your insulation layer from getting wet from sweat. For your hands, cheap latex gloves work great as a VBL. You just put them over your liner gloves.  You’ll still want to change your liner gloves so your hands aren’t swimming in sweat – but your insulation layer stays safe. ## 8. Attach Idiot Strings If you lose your mittens, your hands will get cold.  So make sure you don’t lose them by putting your mittens on a string (also known as an “idiot string”).  As an added benefit, you’ll be able to take your mitts off and just let them dangle until you need to put them back on. You can also use little clamps like these “[Hold ‘em mitts](https://amzn.to/2rxqf5h).”  Or, choose mittens which have elastic wrist straps. ## 9. Use Hand Warmers Don’t try to “tough it out.”  The moment your hands start feeling cold, use hand warmer packets to warm them up.  If you wait until your hands are freezing, it will be a lot harder to get them warm! I know they are meant for toddlers, but they are very practical for hiking too. 🙂 ## 10. Cinch the Gauntlets Good winter mittens have extra-long gauntlets (aka cuffs) with drawstrings.  The drawstring allows you to cinch the mittens over your jacket to keep wind and snow out. If your mittens don’t have long gauntlets, then you’ll need to wear them *underneath* your jacket.  This makes it almost impossible to take your mitts off/on without also removing your jacket though, so it’s better to get mittens with cinchable gauntlets. ## 11. Insulate Your Core When your core gets cold, your body starts redirecting blood from your extremities to it as a way of protecting vital organs.  This is why your hands and feet get cold faster than other parts of your body. So, by keeping your core warm – such as with a good puffy vest – you can actually help keep your hands warmer too. --- **Wants tons of camping info in PRINTABLE format? Then get my Camping Cheat Sheets: An Illustrated Manual** [![camping cheat sheets](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/interior-pages-1024x356.jpg "interior pages - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets) **[Click to buy them!](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** --- ###### **Resources for this article:** <https://pubs.usgs.gov/publication/ofr89415>, <https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0003687018303739>, <https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/document?repid=rep1&type=pdf&doi=8653b6461ab569dd13ccde455be5d01b0d71e712>, <https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Ken-Zafren/publication/235123075_The_World_Congress_on_Wilderness_Medicine_2nd_Held_in_Aspen_Colorado_on_8-12_August_1995/links/5593279408ae1e9cb4298dcd/The-World-Congress-on-Wilderness-Medicine-2nd-Held-in-Aspen-Colorado-on-8-12-August-1995.pdf#page=281>, <https://books.google.rs/books?hl=en&lr=&id=B429LiEdnhoC&oi=fnd&pg=PP9&dq=winter+hiking+mittens&ots=L1HdHuMc8U&sig=gn9_p2uKDYleeQ4se0Vw1yi_y48&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false>, <https://books.google.rs/books?hl=en&lr=&id=sWUga1f11fEC&oi=fnd&pg=PA3&dq=winter+hiking+mittens&ots=HE0z1f9_h8&sig=YIWtYC6911_nDjFxA8nB89MSvSM&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=winter%20hiking%20mittens&f=false>, **image credit:** Image credit: “[Winter Hike-1030624.jpg](https://www.flickr.com/photos/57280016@N02/24802339627/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Gary Lloyd-Rees](https://www.flickr.com/people/57280016@N02/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking **Tags:** winter --- ### [How to Keep Feet Warm Hiking in Winter: 11 Crucial Rules to Follow](https://momgoescamping.com/keep-feet-warm-hiking-winter/) **Published:** November 16, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Hiking in winter with cold toes and feet isn’t just a miserable experience, it can be downright dangerous.  When your feet get cold, the blood vessels get smaller and less blood flows to them.  If you aren’t able to warm your feet, permanent damage can occur – including severe frostbite that results in amputation. Keeping your feet warm while hiking in sub-freezing weather isn’t that difficult though.  It’s just a matter of following some basic “rules.” You don’t even necessarily have to buy expensive winter hiking gear if you follow these rules.   Here they are! ## 1. Wear Layers on Your Feet Too Just like you need to wear layers of clothing on your body and hands too, you also need to wear layers on your feet.  A winter foot-layering system should consist of: 1. **Moisture-wicking layer:** Such as a thin silk, synthetic or thin wool sock 2. **Light insulation layer:** Such as a lightweight wool sock 3. **Heavier insulation layer:** Such as a midweight or heavyweight wool sock. Some winter boots have built-in insulation which serves as this layer. 4. **Shell layer:** The shell layer is your boot. It should protect against wetness and wind. ## 2. Invest in Good Socks Often there isn’t much of a difference between an expensive hiking jacket and a cheap one.  However, there is a huge difference between a cheap $3 pair of socks and $20 socks.  Some of the really good pairs of winter socks cost even more but they are really worth it for keeping your feet warm. Some of the best winter hiking socks are by: - **Darn Tough:** overall the best winter hiking socks, according to serious hikers. Get them at the [Darn Tough website](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=c428e507-7aa6-4377-be1a-5f1693f6693b&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fdarntough.com%2F) or [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=d973e061c43a574ec9a0dd195a3da89c&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=sporting&keywords=Darn%20Tough%20wool%20socks)![](//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&l=ur2&o=1) - **Wigwam:** Get on [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=17d144b04c45864df4ef9b295c11fef2&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=sporting&keywords=Wigwam%20wool%20socks)![](//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&l=ur2&o=1) - **SmartWool:** Get on [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=1ee844775b336897c780e9c295a56c96&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=sporting&keywords=smartwool%20socks)![](//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&l=ur2&o=1) - **Fox River:** Get on [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=3eea140b2c4a3de4a40b67518f9c7c42&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=sporting&keywords=Fox%20river%20socks)![](//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&l=ur2&o=1) - **DeFeet Woolie Boolies:** Get on [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=95bedf47d335cdff9779f173dad5ba7b&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=sporting&keywords=Defeet%20wool%20socks)![](//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&l=ur2&o=1) \*When buying winter hiking socks, make sure you pay attention to the weight of the sock (thickness) and also the size.  You’ll need to size up the outer layers of socks so they don’t compress your feet.  Which brings us to… ## 3. Don’t Compress Your Feet If your socks or boots are too tight, it will restrict circulation to your feet and make them get cold.  A lot of hikers realize they need a larger sized boot for winter, but forget that they need larger size socks too. For example, my first layer of socks is my normal Medium fit. The second layer is a Large size so it can go over top of the first without cutting off circulation.  The third sock is an XL. You should be able to wiggle your toes easily inside the boot, even with all of these layers on.  That usually means getting a boot *at least* one size larger than you normally wear.  Sorry, but you won’t be able to wear your fall hiking boots in winter without cutting off circulation. Also avoid lacing up your boots too tightly as this will cut off circulation. You can even try different lacing methods to improve foot circulation for winter hiking. ## 4. Wear Waterproof Boots While I personally don’t like waterproof hiking boots for summer (when breathability is a bigger concern), waterproof boots are almost always mandatory for winter hiking. Even if the temperatures are above freezing, you still probably have to deal with sleet, melting snow, and other wetness when hiking.  Your boots will absorb all this moisture and get your feet wet. When the temperatures are below freezing, you still need waterproofing. Otherwise snow will get on top of your boot, melt from your body heat, and cause the boots to get wet.  The boots can then freeze solid.  For extreme temperatures, you’ll need a more reliable waterproof layer, such as winter boots with a rubber bottom. \*Some people  wear trail runners, mukluks or other non-waterproof boots in winter. However, this is only safe if you can be sure your insulating socks won’t get wet, such as if the conditions are completely dry or you wear a waterproof layer over your insulating socks. ## 5. Know When to Wear Insulated vs. Non-Insulated Boots Proper winter hiking boots have a layer of insulation inside. They do a great job of your feet warm in extremely cold weather. However, insulated hiking boots generally aren’t a great idea for milder temperatures.  The insulation can keep your feet too warm, causing your feet to sweat.  Since the waterproofing traps the moisture, your feet end up getting wet from the inside out. **The bottom line?** For hiking in temperatures down to around 20F, choose non-insulated boots.  Make sure they are sized large enough to wear multiple layers of warm wool socks.  For hiking in temperatures below 20F *or* if you will be standing around inactive a lot (or sledding, building a snowman…), choose insulated boots. ## 6. Use VBLs in Extreme Weather A big problem with insulated boots is that your feet will start to sweat in them.  The sweat will cause the insulation to get wet, which in turn gets your feet wet and dangerously cold.  To keep the insulation dry, you should use a vapor barrier liner (VBL). VBLs are simply a waterproof layer that keeps sweat from getting to the insulation. Because they aren’t breathable, VBLs are only recommended in very cold weather (approximately 15F or colder).  If you use a VBL in warmer weather, your feet will probably get too sweaty and end up drenched. Never wear the VBL right up against your skin.  Here’s what a VBL layering system should look like in winter: 1. Liner sock 2. VBL 3. Insulating wool sock 4. Boot insulation 5. Waterproof boot **What makes a good vapor barrier liner for feet?** The cheapest option is to just use plastic bags.  However, I find that they tear really easily.  Better options include: - Oven roasting bags (like ones made by Reynolds) - Bread bags - Waterproof socks (remember to size up so they don’t squeeze your feet) - Vapor barrier socks ## 7. Get Thermal Insoles If you can’t afford good winter boots right now, one cheap way to make your current boots winter is to upgrade the insoles.  Simply swap out the existing insoles for ones made out of insulating foam, wool, “AeroGel” or foil.  If you want to get really fancy, you can even get [heated insoles](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dheated%2Binsoles). ### [Safety Works CTFM Toasty Feet Insoles with Aerogel](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005ZUI7N2?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [![Safety Works CTFM Toasty Feet Insoles with Aerogel](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/5196NghekBL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005ZUI7N2?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) - Made with Aerogel infused insulation to keep heat in and cold out - Toasty Feet also keep feet cool on hot surfaces - Provides a thermal barrier of protection for your feet [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005ZUI7N2?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) ## 8. Get Feet Off the Ground Whenever you stop for a break, try to get your feet off the ground and especially off any snow.  Otherwise the ground will suck the heat out of your feet quickly.  Stand on a rock, fallen log, etc. instead. If you know you will be standing around a lot, consider bringing an insulating pad to stand on. ## 9. Don’t Put On Boots Until You Are Ready to Hike You don’t want your feet to start sweating before you begin hiking.  So, avoid putting on all those layers of socks and insulating boots until you are ready to hike.  For example, you might want to wear different socks and sneakers while driving to the trail head and only then put on your feet layers. ## 10.  Keep Core Warm The body prioritizes organs for heating.  So, if your core gets cold, your body will constrict blood vessels in your hands and feet (vasoconstriction).  This can lead to frostbite. Thus, one of the best ways to keep your hands and feet warm in winter is to make sure your core is warm. ## 11. Have a Contingency Plan It’s always smart to have a contingency plan when hiking but even more important in winter.  Make sure your plan includes a way to prevent or treat frostbite if your extremities start getting dangerously cold. **Your contingency plan may include:** - Chemical toe warmers [like these](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007BI45KK/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B007BI45KK&linkId=660882632c40d11369d49c4d5863ed0c) - Extra pairs of socks, in case the ones you are wearing get wet - Backup shoes in your car or for at camp if you are overnighting Most importantly, don’t let your ego get the better of you.  If your hands and feet get too cold, turn back!  It’s better to end your hike early than end it in the emergency room. **Getting outdoors in winter? You’ll also want to read:** - [Essential Winter Hiking Tips](https://momgoescamping.com/tips-hiking-winter/) - [How to Keep Your Water Bottle from Freezing](https://momgoescamping.com/water-bottles-insulators-winter/) - [Hiking with Babies and Little Kids in Cold Weather](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-baby-toddler-cold/) - [Winter Camping Checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/winter-camping-gear-checklist/) --- Image credit: “[P1010004](https://www.flickr.com/photos/welcometoalville/2194309400/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [welcometoalville](https://www.flickr.com/people/welcometoalville/) Resources: <https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/cwndij/keeping_feet_warm_in_cold_weather/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/CampingandHiking/comments/5l8q22/keeping_feet_dry_and_warm_when_hiking_in_winter/> <https://sectionhiker.com/vapor-barrier-socks-using-reynolds-oven-bags/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/Frugal/comments/e428e/frugal_how_do_you_keep_your_feet_toasty_in_the/> <https://www.backpacking.net/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=126002> <https://workingperson.me/insulated-or-non-insulated-boots/#:~:text=In%20a%20rainy%20climate%2C%20non,definitely%20the%20way%20to%20go>. <https://www.reddit.com/r/CampingGear/comments/dnxjlk/recommendations_for_insulated_winter_hiking_boots/> <http://www.atmo.arizona.edu/students/courselinks/fall12/atmo336/lectures/sec1/comfort.html> <https://opentextbc.ca/anatomyandphysiology/chapter/24-6-energy-and-heat-balance/> <https://www.hunttalk.com/threads/insulated-boots-or-just-carry-warmer-socks.277168/> ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking **Tags:** cold, feet, socks, winter --- ### [10 Ways to Save Money on Kids’ Backpacking Gear](https://momgoescamping.com/save-money-kids-backpacking-gear/) **Published:** May 25, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Having the right gear can make or break a backpacking trip.  But, as a parent on a limited budget, I have a big issue with buying kids’ backpacking gear: I don’t want to spend a fortune on gear or clothes that my kids will grow out of in one season. Over the years, I’ve learned some tricks to save money on backpacking and camping gear for my kids.  Here they are.  If you have any tips to add, let us know in the comments section! ## 1. Know Which Gear to Spend On Will I buy a fancy $50 backpacking water bottle for my daughter?  Definitely not! I can just use a recycled plastic bottle instead.  Will I buy a kids camping chair? Nope.  My girls are sitting on a foam sleeping pad. But there are situations when it makes sense to splurge on gear for your kids. - **Key gear:** Such as sleeping bags, sleeping pads, and backpacks - **Gear which won’t be outgrown soon:** Such as headlamps (versus boots which will only fit for a season) - **You have younger children:** And they will inherit the gear when the older child outgrows it ## 2. Calculate Cost-Per-Use The more you use gear, the lower the *cost-per-use* will be, thus making it a better value.  The problem with kids backpacking gear is that they grow out of it before you can get enough use out of it. If you still aren’t sure whether certain gear is “worth it,” then calculate the cost-per-use amount.  To get this, divide the cost by how many times you will realistically use the gear. For kids clothing, the cost-per-use can be really high since they outgrow it so quickly.  However, if I can get my kids to wear the clothes throughout the year (and not just while backpacking), the cost-per-use gets much lower. ## 3. Borrow Gear Lots of parents have kids backpacking gear sitting around at home collecting dust.  Don’t be shy about asking if you can borrow it.  But do make sure you follow these [rules of borrowing camping gear](https://momgoescamping.com/borrowing-camping-gear/), such as asking how you should wash the gear before returning it. ## 4. REI Garage REI has an outlet section on their website which they call their “[Garage](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Frei-garage).”  You can find lots of gear from last season at massive discounts.  Check there and you might get lucky and find deals on kids backpacking gear. ## 5. Check Platforms for Selling Used Gear There are now some platforms specifically for buying and selling outdoor gear.  Not only does it save you money, but buying secondhand gear is better for the environment. I recommend [Rerouted Co-op](https://reroutedcoop.com/).  They do quality checks and have a fair system for pricing the gear.  They are a startup, so the collection of kids’ gear is limited, but it’s still worth checking. **Tip:** Make sure you check the size measurements *exactly* before buying secondhand gear so you don’t end up with gear that doesn’t fit. [![Morrison sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/morrison-sleeping-bag.jpg "morrison sleeping bag - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/morrison-sleeping-bag.jpg)*Rerouted is partnered with [Morrison sleeping bags](http://morrisonoutdoors.com?aff=3) list your Morrison baby sleeping bag on Rerouted and youll get a discount on the toddler size bag* ## 6. Cotton Is Sometimes OK Any “pro” backpacker will tell you to *never wear cotton*.  I agree: cotton is bulky, absorbs water like a sponge, and takes forever to dry once wet. However, my kids have definitely worn cotton on our backpacking trips.  I simply don’t want to spend a fortune on hiking clothes that they will outgrow in a season or two. **The tradeoff?** Bringing cotton means that I must bring backups in case they get wet.  That means carrying extra clothes and extra weight (and *I’m* the one carrying it all!). If they had better backpacking clothes, I wouldn’t need backups and could lighten my load. So really think how important it is for you to lighten your pack.  It might be worth paying for good kids backpacking clothes if it means you have less to carry. **Also read: [It is okay to wear cotton hiking?](https://momgoescamping.com/is-it-okay-to-wear-cotton-hiking/)** ## 7. Sneakers Are Also OK It’s definitely safer to backpack in boots; they protect against sprained ankle injuries and, to some extent, against snake bites too.  But kids’ hiking boots aren’t always necessary, especially on easy terrain and in good weather. My daughter would often just wear sneakers on backpacking trips when she was really young (now her winter boots double as hiking boots).  Just be warned that wet sneakers take forever to dry and cause blisters.  Bring a pair of camp sandals to have as backups while the sneakers dry. **Also read: [Why I don’t buy hiking boots for my kids](https://momgoescamping.com/do-kids-need-hiking-boots/)** [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/whining.jpg "whining - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/whining.jpg) *My daughter at 5 y.o. She wore cotton and sneakers for a 2 week backpacking trip at survived. 🙂* ## 8. Buy Clothes a Size Larger I always buy a size bigger for my kids.  The clothes will be a bit too big at first but I’ll roll up sleeves.  You can use a [catch stitch for hemming pants](https://blog.colettehq.com/tutorials/5-ways-to-hand-stitch-a-hems); the stitch is easy to remove later on when your kid grows into the clothes. By the next backpacking season, the clothes will fit perfectly.  If I’m really lucky, the clothes will still fit for a third season. ## 9. Think Multi-Purpose When Buying Gear If you only use gear for occasional backpacking trips, the “cost per use” will be very high. If you can figure out other ways to use the gear, the cost-per-use drops drastically. Luckily, a lot of kids’ backpacking gear can be used for other purposes too. **For example:** - **Soft-shell jackets** can be worn as a winter jacket - **Hiking boots** can be worn as winter boots - **Hiking sandals** can be worn in the summer - **Base layer bottoms** can double as leggings - **Kids’ hiking packs** can be used as a schoolbag Just make sure you are thinking multi-purpose when buying the gear – like choosing a backpack which is the right size for school use. ## 10. Choose Backpacking Clothes Your Kids Actually Like My older daughter is incredibly annoying when it comes to fashion.  She doesn’t want to wear anything “dorky,” and a lot of our backpacking clothes definitely fall into the dorky category (rain pants, anyone?). In order to get more use out of her backpacking clothes, I’ve had to choose more “stylish” ones.  For example, I stopped getting the cheapest base layer pants for my daughter. Instead, I let her pick out ones with cool prints. They cost a bit more but now she will actually wear them to school (and doesn’t complain as much about having to wear dorky clothes while backpacking). ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** gear --- ### [Backpacking Food Calorie Calculator](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-food-calorie-calculator/) **Published:** June 25, 2024 **Author:** Diane **Content:** As a general rule, backpackers need 16 to 25 calories per pound of body weight when hiking. This breaks down to 2,500 to 3,500 calories of food per day for a healthy adult. However, depending on factors like temperature, pack weight, and hike difficulty, a backpacker might need fewer or more calories. To get a more accurate calorie amount, the backpacking food calculator below provides an exact amount. **Also read: [How much food to bring backpacking?](https://momgoescamping.com/how-much-food-pack-backpacking/)** \[sta\_anchor id=”packweight” /\] ## How This Backpacking Calorie Calculator Works This backpacking calorie calculator use the “Pandolf model.” It comes from a 1976 military study in which a researcher was tasked with figuring out how many calories soldiers burned when walking with their heavy packs on. While the calculator is fairly good at giving you a ballpark amount of calories you’ll need, it can also be very inaccurate. The reason is because the calculator doesn’t factor in things like: - What your actual basal metabolic rate is - Muscle vs. fat you have on your body - Hiking speed - Terrain difficulty - Whether you are male/female - How long you are sleeping - Outside temperature and weather Any of these variables can completely change how many calories you need per day. ([1](https://halls.md/calories-burn-sleeping/), [2](https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/1qjl2w/do_you_burn_more_calories_laying_down_but_awake/), [3](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28919496), [4](https://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php/91238-Hiker-Hunger)) Also keep in mind that there are some issues with counting calories.  As I talk about in [this post about backpacking nutrition](https://momgoescamping.com/nutrition-backpacking-thru-hiking/), *calories do not always equal energy*. For example, peanuts are very high-calorie but (as you can see in your poop), a lot of those calories are never absorbed by the body. Despite this, calorie counting is still the best way to figure out how much food you need to bring backpacking. ## How Pack Weight Affects Calorie Needs If you play around with the backpacking calorie calculator, you can see that your pack weight has a huge effect on how many calories you need while backpacking. **For example:** - **A 150lb hiker going 3mph on a 1% slope will burn about 274 calories per hour without a pack.** - **The same hiker with a 40lb pack would burn about 334 calories per hour.** That’s why going lightweight is so important when backpacking.  Ironically, the more food weight you carry, the more food you will need to eat – thus making it even more important to choose calorie-dense foods and plan meals well. ## Factors That Change Your Calorie Needs The Pandolf formula gives you a solid baseline, but a few real-world variables can shift your needs significantly. \*\*Gender and body composition.\*\* On average, women burn about 10–20% fewer calories than men of the same weight doing the same activity, because women typically carry a higher ratio of fat to muscle mass. If you’re a woman, start at the lower end of the 16–20 cal/lb range and adjust based on how you feel by day two and three. \*\*Altitude.\*\* At elevations above 8,000 feet, your body works harder to breathe and maintain temperature. Calorie expenditure increases by roughly 10–15% at altitude. Heading into the mountains? Add a 10% buffer and carry it as extra snacks. \*\*Cold weather.\*\* Your body burns extra calories just keeping warm. In temperatures below freezing, add another 200–400 calories per day beyond your baseline. This is not the place to go light on food. \*\*Uphill vs. flat terrain.\*\* Steep grades dramatically increase expenditure beyond what the formula captures. On elevation-heavy days, bump your daily estimate up by 10–20% and snack as you climb rather than waiting for camp. ## How to Use the Number in Real Planning\*\* Once you have your daily calorie target, use it to plan food weight. Most backpacking foods deliver around 100 calories per ounce. To hit 2,800 calories per day, you need roughly 28 oz (1.75 lbs) of food. A useful daily breakdown: \* \*\*Breakfast (20%):\*\* \\~560 cal — instant oatmeal, granola, coffee with cream powder \* \*\*Lunch (15%):\*\* \\~420 cal — crackers, nut butter, jerky, dried fruit \* \*\*Snacks (25%):\*\* \\~700 cal — trail mix, bars, chocolate, nuts \* \*\*Dinner (25%):\*\* \\~700 cal — freeze-dried meal or DIY rice/beans/sauce \* \*\*Buffer (15%):\*\* \\~420 cal — extra for hard days, cold nights, or delays ## Backpacking Calorie Calculator FAQ\*\* \*\*How many calories do I burn backpacking per day?\*\* Most backpackers burn between 2,500 and 4,500 calories per day depending on body weight, pack weight, terrain, elevation, and temperature. A 150-lb person carrying a 30-lb pack on moderate terrain typically burns around 2,800–3,200 calories. Use the calculator above with your actual weight and pack weight for the most accurate estimate. \*\*Does altitude affect how many calories I need while backpacking?\*\* Yes, noticeably. At elevations above 8,000 feet, your body works harder to breathe and maintain body temperature, increasing calorie expenditure by roughly 10–15%. Add a 10% buffer to your daily calorie target and pack it as extra snacks rather than planning larger meals you may not feel like eating. \*\*Should I eat more on uphill days versus flat terrain days?\*\* Absolutely. Climbing 2,000+ feet in a day dramatically increases calorie burn compared to flat miles. On big climb days, add an extra 300–500 calories and keep them accessible — snack as you hike rather than saving everything for camp. Energy crashes on a steep descent are genuinely unpleasant. \*\*How do calorie needs differ for women versus men?\*\* Women typically burn 10–20% fewer calories than men of the same weight doing the same activity, due to differences in muscle-to-fat ratio and metabolism. Start at the lower end of the calculator’s range. That said, individual metabolism varies — pay attention to how you feel by day two and three, and adjust your next trip accordingly. \*\*How do I calculate calories per ounce for my trail food?\*\* Divide the calories per serving by the serving weight in ounces. Aim for 100+ calories per ounce. Nuts and nut butter (\\~165–180 cal/oz), dark chocolate (\\~155 cal/oz), and olive oil (\\~250 cal/oz) are the highest-density options. Commercial freeze-dried meals average around 100–120 cal/oz. See our full list of \[calorie-dense backpacking foods\](https://momgoescamping.com/calorie-dense-healthy-backpacking-foods/) for more options. --- **Ready to take your backpacking meals up a notch? [Get my eBook here for 50% off](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmetasheck50off). Below are pictures of some of the lightweight, calorie-dense recipes included in the book.** ![dehydrator backpacking recipes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/gallery.jpg "gallery - Mom Goes Camping")From left to right Blueberry chia oatmeal pear cardamom ginger oatmeal red pepper crackers with hummus beetroot salami mashed potatoes with white bean gravy pasta with buttery white bean sauce ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Food --- ### [Backpacking Recipe: Dehydrated White Bean and Spinach Spread (Vegan, GF)](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-recipe-bean-spread/) **Published:** October 17, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Need a really quick backpacking lunch?  This spread is calorie-dense, takes less than two minutes to make on the trail, and can be made with the cold-soak method (no stove needed!).  I usually put it on tortillas but it would also be great on bagels or other calorie-dense breads.  It could also work as a sauce for pasta. Here’s the recipe and instructions. **Also read:** - [How to Dehydrate Your Own Backpacking Meals](https://momgoescamping.com/diy-dehydrated-backpacking-meals/) - [Backpacking Tortilla Ideas](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-food/) - [Guide to Cold-Soak Backpacking Meals](https://momgoescamping.com/cold-soak-backpacking-meals/) ## Serving Size and Calories: This recipe comes out to 520 calories.  The dry weight was just under 3oz (85g).   That comes out to 173 calories per ounce (6 calories per gram)! There is enough spread to go on 12 medium (40g) tortillas.  My tortillas are 140 calories each.  On the trail, I ate 3 tortillas with ¼ of the spread.  That gave me a lunch of 550 calories (read: [How much food to bring backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/how-much-food-bring-backpacking-calculator/)). ## Ingredients: - 1 cup (170g) of cooked white beans (240 calories) - 2 Tbsp olive oil (240 calories) - Juice from 1 ½ lemons (roughly 15 calories) - Handful of spinach or kale (40g; roughly 25 calories) ## Instructions: - Using a food processor or bottleneck blender, mix all the ingredients together. - Cut up pieces of parchment paper. - Put the spread on the parchment paper. Then put these on your dehydrator trays.  Make sure there is a bit of space between the papers for air flow. - Dehydrate until the spread is completely dry and crumbly. It took me about 7 hours at 32F. - Transfer the dry spread into a baggie/baggies. - Smash up the dry spread a bit to remove any clumps. This will make it easier to rehydrate on the trail. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/dehydrated-bean-spread.jpg "dehydrated bean spread - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/dehydrated-bean-spread.jpg)*This is what the spread looked like once it was completely dry*[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/dehydrated-bean-spread-packed.jpg "dehydrated bean spread packed - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/dehydrated-bean-spread-packed.jpg)*The dry spread packed in a baggie* ## On the Trail: - Put the dry spread into a bowl or cup. - Slowly add a bit of water. Add less than you think you need (you can always add more water but you can’t take it away!) - Stir and wait a minute or two. - If necessary, add a bit more water and wait another minute or two. Repeat until you get the right consistency. - Spread on tortillas, bagels or your favorite calorie-dense carbs. This spread would also work well as a sauce for pasta! [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/dehydrated-bean-spread-instructions-trail-1.jpg "dehydrated bean spread instructions trail 1 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/dehydrated-bean-spread-instructions-trail-1.jpg)*This is 12 of the spread for two people spread onto 6 tortillas*[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/dehydrated-bean-spread-instructions-trail-2.jpg "dehydrated bean spread instructions trail 2 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/dehydrated-bean-spread-instructions-trail-2.jpg)*This is what it looks like immediately after adding water Its still a bit clumpy*[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/dehydrated-bean-spread-instructions-trail-3.jpg "dehydrated bean spread instructions trail 3 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/dehydrated-bean-spread-instructions-trail-3.jpg)*And heres what it looks like 3 minutes later once the spread has had time to absorb the water*[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/dehydrated-bean-spread-instructions-trail-4.jpg "dehydrated bean spread instructions trail 4 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/dehydrated-bean-spread-instructions-trail-4.jpg)*Delicious on tortillas* ## **Guess what? I wrote a book.  It’s got over 50 healthy backpacking recipes plus ton of info on how to plan backpacking meals.  [Learn more here](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/).**  [![backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/backpacking-dehydrator-recipes-ebook.jpg "backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/backpacking-dehydrator-recipes-ebook.jpg) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Food **Tags:** recipe --- ### [29 Lightweight Backpacking Meal Ideas (No-Cook and Cold-Soak Options)](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-meal-ideas/) **Published:** October 14, 2025 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Planning meals for your next backpacking trip doesn’t have to be complicated or expensive. After years of testing different meal strategies on the trail with my family, I’ve learned that the best backpacking meals are lightweight, [calorie-dense](https://momgoescamping.com/calorie-dense-healthy-backpacking-foods/), and actually enjoyable to eat after a long day of hiking. In this guide, I’m sharing 29 backpacking meal ideas that I’ve personally tested and refined over dozens of trips. Most can be made with everyday supermarket foods, though I’ll also share some of my favorite dehydrated options for those who want to take their trail meals to the next level. If you’re completely new to backpacking food, I recommend starting with my comprehensive guide on [What to Eat When Backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-food/) to understand the basics of trail nutrition and meal planning. The meal ideas below are organized into categories based on how you’ll prepare them: - [Breakfast Ideas](#breakfast) - [No-Cook Lunch Ideas](#no-cook) - [Cold-Soak Meal Ideas](#cold-soak) - [Hot Dinner Ideas](#hot-meals) **Note:** If you invest in a dehydrator, you’ll dramatically expand your meal options. Below are some meals I’ve made using my dehydrator. All the recipes are available in my eBook, which you can [get here](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmetasheck). ## Breakfast Ideas for Backpacking ### 1. PNB Tortilla Roll-Ups Tortillas paired with peanut butter (PNB) deliver the perfect combination of calories and protein to fuel your morning miles. The key to keeping these interesting on multi-day trips is varying your add-ins. **Pro tip from experience:** Add something crunchy like peanuts or granola. The texture contrast makes these roll-ups so much more satisfying than plain PNB. **Combinations I rotate through on longer trips:** - Nutella + toasted coconut flakes - PNB + marshmallow fluff - PNB + dried banana chips - PNB + dark chocolate bits + dried fruit - PNB + dried apples (soak in water first to soften – game changer!) ![backpacking tortilla with nutella](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/35964177560_709ffa9484_w.jpg) Nutella is even better than PNB! ![backpacking breakfast of tortilla with cereal and honey](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/36058417071_62bed06478_c.jpg) Peanut butter, raisins, Grape Nuts cereal, and honey wrapped in a tortilla. Idea and image courtesy of [OakleyOriginals](https://www.flickr.com/people/oakleyoriginals/). ![nutella and marshmallow tortilla for backpacking dessert](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/5834079556_558d3702d9_w.jpg) Tortilla with peanut butter + marshmallow fluff + nuts for crunchiness ### 2. Oatmeal, Made Exciting Plain oatmeal gets boring fast, especially on trips longer than a few days. After testing dozens of combinations, I’ve found that the secret is layering different textures and flavors. **How I upgrade my trail oatmeal:** **Warming spices:** Cinnamon, cardamom, and ginger powder are excellent for cold mornings and actually help with digestion on the trail. **Dried fruit:** I pack a different fruit combination for each day of my trip. This simple change makes morning oatmeal something to look forward to rather than just fuel. **Crunchy elements:** Toasted coconut, chopped nuts, or cacao nibs add satisfying texture. **Protein boost:** A scoop of nut butter or protein powder helps sustain energy through morning miles. **Superfoods:** Cocoa powder, chia seeds, flaxmeal, or maca powder add nutrients without much weight. ![pumpkin coffee oatmeal for backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/pumpkin-coffee-chia-oatmeal.jpg) ### 3. Bagel Alternatives Bagels are a backpacking classic because they’re calorie-dense and hold up well in a pack. But if you’re on a longer trip and craving variety, these alternatives provide similar calories: - **Thawed frozen waffles** – Surprisingly durable and delicious with PNB - **Honeybuns** – Pure trail energy (though not the healthiest option) - **Poptarts** – A nostalgic favorite that actually works - **Croissants** – Yes, they get flattened, but they’re still tasty - **English muffins** – Sturdier than regular bread Slather any of these with PNB, honey, or jam for a quick breakfast. ### 4. Dehydrated Pancakes This is one of the easiest dehydrator recipes you can make. I cook a batch of pancakes at home, dehydrate them, and pack them for the trail. You can eat them dry as a snack, but I prefer rehydrating them in powdered milk for a few minutes to soften them up. ### 5. Dehydrated Carrot Cake This recipe has become one of my go-to breakfast options. At 160 calories per ounce (nearly 6 calories per gram), it’s incredibly efficient for the weight. Like the pancakes, you can eat the dry cake pieces as-is for a sweet snack, or rehydrate them in milk made from powder for a more cake-like breakfast. Get the [recipe and instructions here](https://momgoescamping.com/dehydrated-carrot-cake-backpacking/). ![dehydrated carrot cake](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/dehydrated-carrot-cake-before-rehydrating.jpg) ## No-Cook Lunch Ideas One of the biggest lessons I’ve learned from backpacking is that sometimes you just want to keep moving. These no-cook lunch ideas let you fuel up without stopping to set up your stove, perfect for those days when you’re trying to cover big miles or the weather isn’t cooperating. ### 6. Savory Tortilla Wraps Tortillas are my secret weapon for backpacking lunches. They’re calorie-dense, have a long shelf life, and are incredibly versatile. Over the years, I’ve developed some favorite combinations: - BBQ sauce from packet + Babybel cheese - Olives + string cheese - Peanut butter + teriyaki jerky (sweet and savory works surprisingly well) - Dried cauliflower + walnuts + sundried tomatoes ([recipe here](https://momgoescamping.com/cauliflower-walnut-dehydrator-backpacking-recipe/)) **Pro tip for long trips:** Put a piece of parchment paper between your tortillas to keep them from sticking together. I learned this the hard way after peeling apart a sticky mess on day three of a trip! ![Dehydrated cauliflower taco meat on a tortilla](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/cauliflower-taco-meat.jpg) Dehydrated cauliflower taco “meat” on a tortilla. Get the [recipe here](https://momgoescamping.com/cauliflower-walnut-dehydrator-backpacking-recipe/). ### 7. Tuna or Chicken in Pouches + Carb + Flavorful Add-Ins Pouches of tuna and chicken are backpacking staples for good reason. Here’s what I’ve learned about using them: **Choose tuna in oil, not water.** It’s significantly more calorie-dense, and those extra calories matter when you’re carrying everything on your back. For a more luxurious trail lunch, splurge on smoked tuna or smoked salmon pouches. **My favorite combinations:** - Tuna + salt and vinegar chips (the vinegar flavor cuts through the richness) - Tuna + crushed crackers + mayo and hot sauce packets - Tuna + raw ramen noodles + hot sauce (yes, raw ramen!) - Tuna + croutons + sundried tomatoes - Tuna on bread + cheese, mayo, olives, pesto - Chicken + corn nuts + mayo packet + mustard packet ### 8. Hearty Sandwiches The secret to sandwiches that don’t get boring is variety in both your bread and fillings. With some creativity, you can create dozens of variations. **Important tip:** Don’t make sandwiches more than a day ahead of time. Assemble them on the trail to avoid soggy bread. **Bread options beyond basic sliced bread:** - Bagels - English muffins - Croissants (they get smashed but still taste delicious) **Filling ideas I rotate through:** - **Cheese + salami:** The classic trail combo that never disappoints - **PNB + honey:** Tip: Put the honey on first and let it soak in for a minute before adding the peanut butter. This prevents the honey from making everything slippery. - **PNB + Fritos or tortilla chips:** The crunchiness is incredibly satisfying - **PNB and jelly:** A childhood favorite that still works on the trail - **Avocado or guacamole + cheese + hot sauce:** Use guacamole powder to save weight - **Sandwich dipped into olive oil:** Add Italian seasoning to the olive oil for a gourmet touch - **Cream cheese:** Look for packets of shelf-stable cream cheese designed for backpacking - **Sun-dried tomato:** Available in pouches or jars (repackage into bags). Lasts a surprisingly long time unrefrigerated and adds amazing flavor - **Smoked tofu:** I find shelf-stable smoked tofu in ethnic stores and some health food stores. It’s an excellent vegan option and a nice change from salami - **Olive tapenade:** Available in plastic tubs or repackage into reusable bags ### 9. Raw Ramen (or Fritos) + PNB + Hot Sauce Yes, you can absolutely eat raw ramen! While I personally prefer cooked ramen for dinner, raw ramen makes a surprisingly quick and satisfying lunch when you don’t want to stop hiking. **How to make it:** - Crumble the ramen into a bowl - Mix peanut butter into it - Add hot sauce to taste - Eat with a spoon A popular variation: [Fritos](https://momgoescamping.com/calorie-dense-healthy-backpacking-foods/) + peanut butter + hot sauce. My dad swears by this combination! ### 10. Crackers + Cheese + Salami Let’s be honest: crackers always get smashed in your pack eventually. Instead of being disappointed, embrace it! **When your crackers turn to crumbs:** - Cut the cheese and salami into small chunks - Put everything in a bowl with the cracker crumbs - Eat with a spoon It’s like a deconstructed charcuterie board, and honestly, it tastes just as good. ## Cold-Soak Meal Ideas Cold-soaking changed the way I approach backpacking meals. The concept is simple: rehydrate dried foods with cold water instead of cooking them. No stove needed, yet you still get a moist, satisfying meal instead of eating dry food all day. Many [supermarket foods](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-supermarket-foods/) work well with cold-soaking, and most [DIY dehydrated foods](https://momgoescamping.com/diy-dehydrated-backpacking-meals/) can be cold-soaked too. This method is especially popular with ultralight backpackers who want to eliminate stove weight. Read more about [cold-soaking backpacking meals here](https://momgoescamping.com/cold-soak-backpacking-meals/). ### 11. Fantastic Tacos The Fantastic brand makes an instant taco filling mix that cold-soaks beautifully. Just add hot or cold water and wait for it to rehydrate. For a more substantial backpacking lunch, I also cold-soak some refried bean powder (available in most supermarkets) and add BBQ sauce from a packet plus some string cheese. The combination is legitimately delicious. ### 12. Falafel Mix + Goldfish Crackers This combination sounds odd but works incredibly well. Cold-soak falafel mix until softened, spread it on a tortilla or your preferred carb, then add Goldfish crackers for texture. Alternatively, mix the Goldfish crackers directly into the rehydrated falafel and eat it with a spoon. My daughter actually requests this meal! ### 13. Hummus Hummus is one of my favorite backpacking foods. It’s packed with protein, iron, and other nutrients, and it dehydrates down to around 180 calories per ounce – incredibly efficient for the weight. **On the trail:** Add a bit of dry hummus powder to a cup with hot or cold water. Let it soak for a few minutes until it reaches a spreadable consistency. Then spread it on a tortilla, bagel, or crackers. Add pumpkin seeds for crunch or sundried tomatoes and olives for a seriously gourmet trail lunch. You can find boxes of instant dry hummus mix in stores, or make your own if you have a dehydrator. Get the [recipe here](https://momgoescamping.com/dehydrator-hummus-backpacking-recipe/). ![DIY dehydrated hummus](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/DSCF0650.jpg) ### 14. Other Instant Dry Spreads Beyond hummus, there are other instant dry spreads worth trying: **Two of my favorites:** - Guacamole powder + yogurt powder - Ranch dressing powder + freeze-dried cheese powder Mix the two powders together before your trip. On the trail, add a small amount of water to make a thick spread and put it on your favorite trail bread. Add salami, TVP, or other fillings to make it a complete meal. ### 15. Frito Pie Fritos are insanely calorie-dense, which is why they’re beloved by backpackers. My dad, for example, just mixes Fritos directly with PNB for his lunch (though I find this a bit much). For a slightly more balanced option, make “Frito Pie”: - Put refried bean powder and/or dehydrated beans in a bowl (you can also use TVP + tomato sauce powder) - Add water to rehydrate - Mix Fritos into the rehydrated beans - Eat with a spoon ## Hot Dinner Ideas After a long day of hiking, there’s something deeply satisfying about a hot meal. These dinners require a stove and pot, but they’re all simple to assemble and cook. Most are made from ingredients you can find at any supermarket. ### 16. Mac ‘n Cheese + Add-Ins Plain boxed mac and cheese is fine, but with a few simple additions, it becomes a genuinely delicious trail meal. The photo below shows Velveeta shells and cheese cooked with freeze-dried peas and a packet of tuna mixed in after cooking. It ends up being just as good as any commercial backpacking meal, but costs a fraction of the price. You can customize this endlessly by adding different proteins (TVP, salami, shelf-stable tofu, nuts) and vegetables (bulk freeze-dried or DIY dehydrated). ### 17. Thai Noodles One packet of ramen plus 2 tablespoons of peanut butter gives you approximately 550 calories – a solid trail dinner. You can also make this with rice noodles. **How I make it more exciting:** - Dried peppers, scallions, or other vegetables - Hot sauce, sriracha, or chili paste - Powdered ginger - Soy sauce (from packets or soy sauce paste) - Sesame seeds ### 18. Backpacker’s Pizza This is a fun meal that feels special on the trail. Heat tortillas or pita bread on your stove or over the campfire. Top with sauce (ketchup packets, tomato paste in a tube, or Boboli pizza sauce packets). Add cheese and pepperoni or salami slices. Wait a few minutes for the cheese to melt on the hot bread. To add nutrition and take it up a notch, include sundried tomatoes, pine nuts, or other favorite pizza toppings. ### 19. Instant Soup + Tortillas or Croutons This simple meal is surprisingly filling. Cook your instant soup, then mix in strips of tortillas or croutons. The added carbs boost calories and improve the texture. Add freeze-dried meat, salami, or dehydrated beans for protein to make it a complete meal. ### 20. Tortellini + Sauce Mix Barilla makes shelf-stable tortellini that’s perfect for backpacking. **Trail preparation:** - Cook the tortellini until al dente - Make sure there’s just a bit of water remaining in the pot (as much as you need for the sauce) - Mix in your sauce powder - Cover and wait 5 minutes for the powder to rehydrate - Enjoy! ### 21. Tabouli with Instant Refried Beans Several brands make boxed instant tabouli with dried vegetables. Pair this with instant refried beans for a complete, satisfying meal. The only downside is that you really need two pots to make this properly. When everything gets mixed together, the texture becomes less appealing. But if you don’t mind that, you can make it in one pot. ### 22. Couscous + Tuna from a Pouch Couscous is one of my absolute favorite backpacking foods because it cooks almost instantly. Choose a brand of boxed couscous that includes dried vegetables, or add your own from bulk freeze-dried or DIY dehydrated supplies. Add protein like tuna from a pouch for a quick, nutritious dinner. ### 23. Falafel If you’re feeling ambitious and want to make a proper dinner, falafel is excellent. Several brands make instant falafel mix. Bring a small bottle of oil and fry the falafel in your pan. If you don’t want to bother with frying, just cold-soak the falafel mix to rehydrate it, then serve it over couscous or another carb. ### 24. Pasta + TVP + Instant Sauce + Hard Cheese + Olives TVP (textured vegetable protein) is an excellent vegan protein for backpacking, though it has virtually no taste on its own. The key is adding lots of seasonings and flavorful ingredients. In this dinner, I add vegan cheese and shelf-stable olives from a pouch. The fattiness from the olives and cheese makes the meal taste incredibly good. Get the [recipe and instructions here](https://momgoescamping.com/tvp-pasta-sauce-backpacking-recipe/). ### 25. Mashed Potatoes + Dried Mushrooms + Shelf-Stable Vegan Hot Dogs I recently discovered some brands selling shelf-stable hot dogs, and they’ve become a favorite for shorter trips. They’re not the lightest option because of their moisture content, but I don’t mind carrying the extra weight when I know I’ll enjoy dinner. You can also dehydrate hot dogs yourself if you have a dehydrator. For this meal, I add dried mushrooms to instant potato flakes and foraged greens when available. Get the [recipe and instructions here](https://momgoescamping.com/easy-backpacking-mashed-potatoes-recipe/). ![backpacking mashed potatoes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/backpacking-mashed-potatoes-recipe.jpg) ### 26. Stove Top Stuffing + Add-Ins Stove Top Stuffing mixes are a backpacking staple, but they’re quite boring and lack nutrition on their own. The solution is adding other ingredients. The photo shows stuffing with freeze-dried peas and chicken from a pouch. **How to prepare:** - Add dry peas to water - Wait for the water to boil, then turn off the stove - Add the stuffing mix, cover, and wait 5 minutes - Add the chicken and any seasonings *Note: If using freeze-dried chicken or other dry proteins, add them at the beginning with the peas.* ### 27. Boxed Indian Meals + Instant Rice I love boxes or cups of instant Indian meals for backpacking. Many contain dried chickpeas or lentils, making them excellent vegan backpacking options. [This brand](https://amzn.to/3O2x2P3) is particularly good and is both vegan and gluten-free. Simply add water, cook for a few minutes, and eat. **Pro tip:** Line your bowl with a tortilla. It makes cleanup much easier! ### 28. Cheddar Mashed Potatoes with Beef This meal combines instant cheddar mashed potatoes with dehydrated beef stroganoff. You could also use TVP, refried bean mix, or freeze-dried meat as your protein. **Important cooking note:** Because mashed potatoes cook instantly, you need to rehydrate the other ingredients first! **Trail preparation:** - Add water to the pot (use the exact amount required for the mashed potatoes plus a tiny bit more for rehydrating the add-ins – too much water makes runny potatoes) - Put your dry add-ins in the water - Boil until the add-ins are soft, then turn off the stove - Add the mashed potato flakes and seasonings - Enjoy! ### 29. Jambalaya from Instant Rice and Salami Here’s another easy backpacking meal using supermarket ingredients. **How to make it:** - Add instant rice and water to your pot - If using dried proteins or vegetables, add them now - Cook until the rice is almost done with a tiny bit of water remaining (this prevents burning) - Add seasonings and salami (or chicken from a pouch, shelf-stable tofu, etc.) - Mix everything together, cover, and wait a few minutes - Enjoy! ## Planning Your Backpacking Meals Having a variety of meal ideas is great, but successful backpacking food planning involves more than just picking recipes. You need to consider [how much food to bring](https://momgoescamping.com/how-much-food-bring-backpacking-calculator/), ensure you’re getting enough [nutrients beyond just calories](https://momgoescamping.com/nutrition-backpacking-thru-hiking/), and create a detailed [meal plan](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-meal-plans/) to avoid carrying too much or too little food. If you’re looking for even more meal options, check out my guide on [creating backpacking meals from supermarket foods](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-supermarket-foods/) or learn about [assembling your own freeze-dried meals from bulk ingredients](https://momgoescamping.com/diy-freeze-dried-backpacking-mealss/). ## Backpacking Meal FAQ: ### Can you eat ramen raw? ### Yes — raw ramen is perfectly fine to eat and makes a quick trail lunch when you don’t want to stop and cook. Crumble the noodles into a bowl, mix in peanut butter, add hot sauce to taste, and eat with a spoon. The seasoning packet can be sprinkled on dry too. ## Take Your Backpacking Meals to the Next Level For truly delicious trail meals with detailed recipes, check out my dehydrator backpacking meals book. It includes recipes for DIY trail bars and lots of meals that can be cold-soaked, plus comprehensive information on backpacking meal planning and nutrition. [Get the book here](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmetasheck) --- **Image credits:** “[IMG\_1009](https://www.flickr.com/photos/maxmartin/7858411464/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [Autumn Sweater](https://www.flickr.com/people/maxmartin/) “[Breakfast of Champions: peanut butter, r](https://www.flickr.com/photos/oakleyoriginals/36058417071/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [OakleyOriginals](https://www.flickr.com/people/oakleyoriginals/) “[Hiking volcanoes in Guatemala](https://www.flickr.com/photos/homohominilupus/5183381941/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [guillermogg](https://www.flickr.com/people/homohominilupus/) “[trail lunch](https://www.flickr.com/photos/mizinformation/751228913/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [mizinformation](https://www.flickr.com/people/mizinformation/) <https://exploringwild.com/> “[falafel](https://www.flickr.com/photos/tanderson/4849158831/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Tarable1](https://www.flickr.com/people/tanderson/) “[tuna noodle dinner](https://www.flickr.com/photos/badenton/17317632950/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Food --- ### [What to Bring When Scaling the Pacific Crest Trail (PCT)](https://momgoescamping.com/pct-what-to-bring/) **Published:** January 15, 2025 **Author:** Diane **Content:** The Pacific Crest Trail (abbreviated to PCT) is a near-legendary, [2,650 mile stretch](https://www.pcta.org/discover-the-trail/faq/) of hiking challenges that extends from Mexico to Canada. Hard to imagine, isn’t it? In its entirety, it’s a bucket list item for some: the entire route takes up to 6 months to complete, and will cover at least two seasons. It takes months to plan for it, and you’ll be spending months with your gear. You’ll also be covering terrain that will involve basically every weather condition, and the logistical challenges of supplies and overnight stays. If you’re not ready to commit to the life-changing experience of traversing the entire length of the trail, there are plenty of opportunities to enjoy shorter sections. Even though the PCT covers 3 states and a lot of variability in the terrain, there are still similarities in the type of gear that you’ll use for any stretch, as well as some non-negotiable items for anyone planning an outing. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/27727266331_b36d17f5cd_z.jpg "27727266331_b36d17f5cd_z - Mom Goes Camping")*Youll encounter both blistering heat and snow on the PCT* ## **Permits, please!** There are a variety of permits (33 in total) you’ll want to look into. Generally, the following overnight camping locations will require some sort of permit: - California State Parks - National Parks and Forest Wilderness Areas If you’ll be entering Canada via the PCT, you will need a [Canada PCT Entry Permit](https://www.pcta.org/discover-the-trail/permits/canada-pct-entry-permit/). You’ll also need a California Fire Permit to use a stove or have a campfire on that state’s trail sections. Some permits are completed at self-serve kiosks – this is the norm on Washington and Oregon trails. Others can be pre-ordered online and picked up at ranger stations. You can find the permit [here](https://www.pcta.org/discover-the-trail/permits/local-permits/). Bear in mind, some trails have quotas, and you’ll possibly need to reserve in advance. Check your maps and also the [recreation.gov](http://recreation.gov) website to help determine the appropriate paperwork. ## **The Right Clothing Layers** ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/dad-on-pct.jpg "dad on pct - Mom Goes Camping")*This is my dad on the PCT in July* No matter what the season or condition, the right base layers are essential. Read: [The 3-Layer Clothing System Explained](https://momgoescamping.com/3-layers-clothing-system/) Keep in mind, the best gear for a PCT hike should be prepared for anything. If you’re selecting clothing, think worst-case scenario: Can you take it off, wash it out, and dry it quickly? If you’re new to hiking, there are a lot of great resources out there to help you learn about the latest in [outdoor gear](https://www.territorysupply.com/). ## **Food & Water** Even on a short hike, carry enough food to get your group through an entire 24-hour day. Look for [foods that don’t require any cooking](https://momgoescamping.com/no-cook-backpacking-meal-ideas/), that pack a lot of protein for their size, and that are easy to digest. For hydration needs, plan on [2 liters of water](https://www.greenbelly.co/pages/how-much-water-should-i-carry-backpacking) per person/per day, minimum. Don’t expect that there will be drinkable water available on any section of the trail. If you plan to use water found on the trail, you’ll need water purification filters or chemical treatment. The filters can be small stand-alone systems that work through gravity or by squeezing, or can be part of a bottle or straw. The Sawyer Mini is a popular lightweight choice.  It’s affordable, doesn’t require any replacement cartridges, and is lightweight. Read tips on [how to the Sawyer Mini](https://momgoescamping.com/sawyer-mini-tips/) it here. **Also Read:** - [**How Much Food to Bring Backpacking (Calculator)**](https://momgoescamping.com/how-much-food-bring-backpacking-calculator/) - **[Calculate how much water to bring hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/how-much-water-to-bring-hiking/)** ![PCT resupply food](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/26564243245_e627b77209_z.jpg "26564243245_e627b77209_z - Mom Goes Camping")*One backpackers resupply for the PCT* ### **First Aid Kit** Before getting the first aid kit, it’s also advisable to take a wilderness safety course. Don’t just rely on the booklet that comes with the kit – get some hands-on training on how to deal with injuries like sprains and broken bones, recognize the signs of hypothermia and heat exhaustion, and perform CPR. Even short hikes can lead to medical emergencies. Other than educating yourself, you must pack a good first aid kit. The best ones for hiking are lightweight, waterproof, and will prepare you for situations from blisters to allergic reactions. If you’re shopping pre-made kits, follow their recommendations on the group size it will serve. If you’re in charge of supplies for the whole family, you’ll need to err on the larger size of kit. Don’t forget to add any specialty items, such as EpiPens and prescription medications. Think ahead, and allow for any delays in your return, in case you have scheduled meds for anyone in your group. **Also Read: [Lightweight Backpacking First Aid Kit Checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-first-aid-kit-checklist/)** ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/26565250900_19e9e40333_z.jpg "26565250900_19e9e40333_z - Mom Goes Camping")*There are venomous snakes on the PCT so make sure you know [what to do if bit by a snake](https://momgoescamping.com/snake-bite-first-aid/)* ### **Sun Protection** Don’t forget sun protection, even in winter. The amount of time you’ll be spending on the trail will mean that your exposure will be maximized. Pack sunscreen for everyone, apply it frequently, and don’t forget your sunglasses. Lip balm with a good SPF rating is also essential – it will prevent burning and chapping in dry weather. ### **Hygiene  For overnight trips, you’ll want to bring a toothbrush, towel (just like in your clothing, synthetic fibers win the day, again), biodegradable soap and toothpaste, toilet paper, and personal hygiene products. To keep the weight down, look for multi-use products like shampoo bar soaps. They’re long-lasting and compact. Shorter trips? You can leave out the toothbrushing needs and the soap, if you’d like, but plan ahead for any pit stops and clean-ups. Handi-wipes can perform multiple tasks, but remember to pack them back out. \*Remember even toothpaste needs to go in a bear canister or be hung in a bear bag! ## **Communication & Navigation  Phones are a no-brainer, but don’t depend on good cellular service. If you’re going to be in particularly remote stretches of the PCT, you might want to invest in a [satellite communicator/location beacon](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-communication-devices/). While we’re on the subject, don’t forget to leave a copy of your itinerary with someone. Never set out on the trail without a copy of the topographic trail map. Keep it in a plastic bag, with your compass. Phone service can fail you, and if you’re used to casually using your smartphone to navigate around town, you may be in for a shock. Bonus – if your kids have never used a compass, they’ll be fascinated with how it works – it’s a great, teachable opportunity. ![kid on the PCT](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/36344979080_d70c36f795_z.jpg "36344979080_d70c36f795_z - Mom Goes Camping") ## **Shelter and Sleeping** When going the full length of the PCT,  it pays to invest in a good lightweight tent. To really shave weight, consider using a trekking pole tent.  It uses your trekking poles for pitching instead of poles, so there is no pole weight.  See [trekking pole tents](https://momgoescamping.com/best-trekking-pole-tents/) here.  Obviously, you are also going to need a sleep setup, like a flashlight and one of [these affordable lightweight sleeping pads](https://momgoescamping.com/best-cheap-ultralight-backpacking-pads/). For shorter trips, you’ll need an emergency shelter. This doesn’t have to be fancy – you just need something that will protect you from a rainstorm. The simplest version could just be a jumbo trash bag or one of the mylar emergency blankets that often come in first aid kits. Either of these can also be used to waterproof items in a pinch. If you’ve developed a leak in a backpack or forgot a rainproof jacket, these can be adapted easily. ## Trekking Poles These will really save your knees on a long thru-hike.  Read more about the [pros/cons of trekking poles](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-poles-pros-cons/) here. ![trekking poles on PCT](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/35578641016_f44527a83f_z.jpg "trekking poles on PCT - Mom Goes Camping") ## Bear Canister Even when you aren’t in bear territory, it is still smart to hang a bear bag (there are plenty of other animals which can get into your food supply besides bears!).  The bear population in certain parts of the PCT has grown vastly over the years.  Thus, you may be required to use a bear canister and not just a bear bag. As [PCTA says](https://www.pcta.org/discover-the-trail/backcountry-basics/food/bear-canister-protecting-your-food/), **expect to carry a canister between Kennedy Meadows (mile 702) in the south and Sonora Pass (mile 1017) in the north and then again in Lassen Volcanic National Park (mile 1343-1363).** [See how to hang a bear bag with the PCT method  here](https://momgoescamping.com/hang-food-bag/). ## **Other essentials** - A small flashlight, in case your day goes longer than expected, - Lighter or waterproof matches for an emergency fire - Repair tools – Duct tape is always great. You may need to do a quick fix on everything from hiking boots to torn backpack straps. - Multi-function knife – Screwdriver, can opener – you need one! Keep it clean and sharp. - Trowel for digging a cathole (don’t expect to find lots of latrines on the PCT) Heading out on any stretch of the Pacific Coast Trail requires some degree of planning. It’s an amazing experience, no matter what trail you’re on. Start with our tips, consult resources like the  [Pacific Crest Trail Association](https://www.pcta.org/) for more detailed information on the entire route, and enjoy yourself! --- Image credits: “[Pacific Crest National Scenic Trail, Cal](https://www.flickr.com/photos/mypubliclands/36344979080/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [mypubliclands](https://www.flickr.com/people/mypubliclands/) “[PCT](https://www.flickr.com/photos/frankdouwes/27727266331/in/album-72157667262162852/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [frankdouwes](https://www.flickr.com/people/frankdouwes/) “[PCT resupply](https://www.flickr.com/photos/frankdouwes/26564243245/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [frankdouwes](https://www.flickr.com/people/frankdouwes/) “[Pacific Crest Trail](https://www.flickr.com/photos/ghostparticle/4434447677/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Ghost Particle](https://www.flickr.com/people/ghostparticle/) “[Snake](https://www.flickr.com/photos/frankdouwes/26565250900/in/album-72157667262162852/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [frankdouwes](https://www.flickr.com/people/frankdouwes/) “[lovz2hike.com Mt Baden Powel 2016](https://www.flickr.com/photos/lovz2hike/35578641016/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [lovz2hike](https://www.flickr.com/people/lovz2hike/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Backpacking --- ### [9 Reasons You DON’T Need a Camping Saw](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-saws/) **Published:** June 17, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** One of my big pet peeves when camping is watching people take out all of their “toys.”  Don’t get me wrong – I can understand the appeal of cool camping gadgets like solar showers, coffee makers, and solar panels.  But a camping saw isn’t just unnecessary (even for firewood!), it’s often incredibly stupid to bring along.  Don’t believe me? Here are 9 reasons you should NOT bring a saw camping, and the only situations where it actually might make sense to pack a saw. ## Why You Don’t Need a Saw Camping ### 1. You Don’t Need a Saw to Process Firewood The main reason people bring a saw camping is because they think they will need it for sawing firewood to size.  I’ve been camping dozens of times and I have never once needed a saw for firewood.  I simply break branches over my knee or by stepping on it with my boots and pulling upwards. **What about when I find a large branch that I can’t break on my own?**  I let the fire break it for me. Just place the entire branch over the fire. The fire will burn through the branch.  Then you can push the ends in.  You can also use long pieces of wood to create a “star fire”.  See that and other [fire lays](https://momgoescamping.com/fire-lays/) here. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/cutting-branches-with-fire.jpg "cutting branches without a saw - Mom Goes Camping")*These branches were too thick to break by hand so I placed them over the fire Once the center is burnt through Ill push them further into the fire No saw needed* ### 2. If You Are Sawing Firewood, Your Fire Is Too Big In the image below, I’m not sure why the guys bothered to saw the tree.  There seems to be plenty of dead wood around them so sawing is unnecessary.  And wood that thick is going to make a crazy big fire. Remember, > “*There are those who get warm gathering wood for a large campfire and those who warm themselves next to a small fire.”* [![using a camping saw on large fallen trees](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/sawing-wood-at-camp.jpg "sawing wood at camp - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/sawing-wood-at-camp.jpg) ### 3. Sawed Wood Is *Live* Wood Once I was wild camping at a beautiful spot near a glacier lake.  Some other campers arrived and they had brought a saw.  They starting sawing limbs off of trees.  Well, surprise surprise – they could barely get their campfire going and it produced an insane amount of smoke when it did.  The branches they sawed down were still alive, and thus full of moisture. But you will only saw dead wood from trees, you say? See number 4. ### 4. Saws Are Counter to the Principle of Leave No Trace As part of Leave No Trace, you should **never remove wood – dead or alive – from standing trees**.  Only take dead wood from the ground.  Why? Dead tree branches serve as habitats to numerous animals and are vital for the ecosystem.  On top of that, looking at trees with sawed-off branches is straight-up ugly. ### 5. Saws Are Forbidden In Many Places In many National and State Parks, it is completely forbidden to use saws.  In many cases, it’s even forbidden to burn dead wood you find within the park; dead wood needs to decompose to create nutrients for the forest floor.  If too many campers burn it up, there won’t be enough for the forest floor. If gathering firewood is permitted, you should be able to find enough dead wood on the ground for your fire without having to saw anything. ### 6. Smaller Firewood Is Safer Nearly 90% of wildfires are caused by humans, including many from unsafe campfires.  As a general rule, **only burn firewood that is smaller than your wrist.** The smaller wood will be able to burn more completely, meaning that you aren’t left with a bunch of large, smoldering wood embers which are difficult to properly put out. ### 7. Is the Saw Just for Ego? In one camping forum, a member wrote, *“Nothing like pulling out a massive Axe from your car boot and start hacking away wood like our pioneers used to.”* Okay, he’s talking about axes and not saws, but the idea is the same.  People feel like badasses when they’ve got big, sharp tools to play with. Using a camping saw won’t make you badass.  It will just make knowledgeable campers think you are an inconsiderate dick. If you really want to feel like a badass, then do it by being a good camper and respecting nature. ### 8. It’s One More Thing to Keep Track Of I generally go backpacking and not camping, so the weight of a camping saw is definitely *not* worth it.  But, even when car camping, I find extra gear to be annoying.  You end up spending so much time dealing with gear that you don’t actually have time to enjoy nature.  Sure, it can be fun to play with a camping saw, but it’s also fun to gather firewood and break it over your knee. ### 9. A Hatchet Is Probably Better than a Saw Granted, there are some situations where you may need to process wood while camping.  In these situations, a hatchet is almost always better than a saw. Specifically, in campgrounds where it is illegal to gather wood or bring your own (because bringing wood from home can introduce invasive species), you can buy pre-cut wood.  A saw is useless but a hatchet can be used to chop logs into kindling. \*See these picks for [best camping hatchets](https://momgoescamping.com/best-camping-hatchets/). ## When a Camping Saw Makes Sense to Bring While most campers have absolutely no need for a saw, there are a few exceptions for when you might actually need one. ### **1. You are in remote wilderness or on private property** On private property, you have more freedon to saw up trees if you wish.  In remote wilderness, you still shouldn’t saw wood off of standing trees but it won’t make a huge environmental impact if you saw fallen trees. ### **2. You are making a permanent bushcraft shelter** Saws are great for situations where you need long, sturdy branches of equal-length for making primitive shelters. Note I saw “permanent” shelters.  A big problem in many areas like the PCT are that hobbyists make shelters and just leave them there.  If you are going to make a shelter, never hammer nails into trees (that’s a dumb way to make a shelter anyway).   Dismantle your shelter when you leave, taking with you any rope you used to make the shelter. ### **3. You’re making a large fire for many people** As mentioned before, I just let the campfire cut branches for me.  The downside is that the ends of the branch will be sticking out of the fire, which can be a tripping hazard – especially if there are a lot of people or kids around.  In these cases, a saw can be very useful to get evenly-sized pieces of fuel wood for your fire. ### **4. You are clearing trails** Saws are a heck of a lot better at clearing trails than a big ol’ axe or hatchet.  You still need to be *allowed* to clear the trails though.  If you want a chance to play with saws and other sharp “toys,” then consider volunteering with your local conservancy group and helping to clear trails. ## Best Camping Saws You’ve read all of this and still think you need a camping saw? In my experience, those small wire saws are pretty useless.  Large saws are also generally not necessary for camping needs.  The best camping saws are the ones which are designed for wrist-sized branches, such as a good pruning saw.The ones below are good picks. --- ### 1. Bahco Laplander Folding Saw ![Bahco Laplander folding saw for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Bahco-Laplander-folding-saw-for-camping.jpg "Bahco Laplander folding saw for camping - Mom Goes Camping") Here’s another cheap camping saw which does a good job of cutting through small branches.  The blade length is roughly the same as the Primus saw above but the Bahco is longer when folded.  The extra length and plastic sheath make it a bit more cumbersome to carry on your belt, but it makes up for this by having a higher-quality blade with 7 teeth per inch.   The handle is also comfortable. - **Type:** Folding - **Blade length:** 7” - **Extended size:** 9” - **Weight:** 7oz (without sheath) - **Price:** Cheap - [**Buy here**](https://amzn.to/37AWTH6) --- ### 2. Silky GomBoy Curve Camping Saw ![gomboy folding camping saw](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/gomboy-folding-saw-for-camping.jpg "gomboy folding saw for camping - Mom Goes Camping") If you are willing to pay just a bit more for a camping saw, the quality immediately improves.  That’s the case with this Silky saw.  It has a longer, curved blade with 6.8 teeth per inch.  The curved shape makes it easier to saw into branches.  It will perform very well for cutting branches up to 4 inches in diameter. - **Type:** Folding - **Blade length:** 8.3” - **Extended size:** 17.32” - **Weight:** 8.2oz (without sheath) - **Price:** Mid - **Get it here** [**on Amazon**](https://amzn.to/2CgvP4x) **or here [at REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F120954%2Fsilky-gomboy-curve-folding-hand-saw)** --- ### 3. Zippo Axe/Saw [![zippo folding saw for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/zippo-folding-saw.jpg "zippo folding saw - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/zippo-folding-saw.jpg) Most 2-in-1 tools are gimmicks which don’t work well.  However, the Zippo axe-saw combo tool actually performs really well.  It is an axe (actually, more like a hatchet) which has a saw blade that can come out of its handle. The tool comes with an additional saw blade, both of which can fit in the handle. The axe can handle branches up to 4 inches in diameter. As an axe, the tool doesn’t function as well as a stand-alone axe does.  However, it can still split smaller logs fairly well.  I actually find the hammer on the back of the axe head most useful for camping, such as when you need to hammer down tent stakes.  In any case, this one tool beats carrying around three separate camping tools. - **Type:** Multi-tool - **Blade length:** 15” - **5” axe head** - **Hammer on back of axe head** - **Weight:** 42oz - **Price:** Upper-mid - [**Buy here**](https://amzn.to/3fyaJwR) --- ###### Sources: <https://lnt.org/axes-hatchets-and-leave-no-trace/> <https://goalloutdoors.com/hike/leave-no-trace-best-hiking-principles/> <http://bushwalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8490%20> <http://www.canoetripping.net/forums/forum/gear/miscellaneous/203-camp-saw> <https://www.reddit.com/r/CampingGear/comments/cq0id4/axes_versus_saws_and_leave_no_trace/> <https://www.pcta.org/discover-the-trail/backcountry-basics/leave-no-trace/axes-hatchets-saws/> ###### Image credits: “[Sawing firewood](https://www.flickr.com/photos/thesistersoberth/4901122219/)” ([CC BY-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/2.0/)) by [AlexiUeltzen](https://www.flickr.com/people/thesistersoberth/) “[Ominousity](https://www.flickr.com/photos/suckamc/2605094503/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [Martin Cathrae](https://www.flickr.com/people/suckamc/) “[2017 Interagency Wilderness Ranger Acade](https://www.flickr.com/photos/usfsregion5/35187944330/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Region 5 Photography](https://www.flickr.com/people/usfsregion5/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [27 Best Tarp Shelter Setups for Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/tarp-shelters/) **Published:** December 8, 2024 **Author:** Diane **Content:**  When setup correctly, tarp shelters are like magic. With the right setup, you can stay dry in the rain,  block wind, create a shady area to eat lunch, or even keep you warm on an unplanned night in the wilderness.  There are literally hundreds of different tarp shelters you can use.  Here I’ll go over the most important ones to know for camping, backpacking and survival/emergency use. --- **Want this information (and more!)** **in printable format?** **Get my Camping Cheat Sheets!** [![camping cheat sheets](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/interior-pages-1024x356.jpg "interior pages - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets) The 42-page guide covers everything you need to know to enjoy the outdoors with confidence. Since you also like tarps, I’ll even give you a discount 🙂 [**Click Here to get it**](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets/tarp) ---  **Jump to:** - [Infographic](#infographic) - [Which tarp shelter setup is best?](#best-tarp) - [Horizontal Ridgeline Tarp Setups](#horizontal) - [Diagonal Ridgeline Tarp Setups](#diagonal) - [Tarp Setups with Poles](#poles) - [Other Tarp Shelter Setups](#other) \[sta\_anchor id=”infographic” /\] ## Tarp Shelter Setup Infographic [![tarp shelter setups infographic](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/tarp-shelter-setups-infographic.jpg "tarp shelter setups infographic - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/tarp-shelter-setups-infographic.jpg) \[sta\_anchor id=”best-tarp” /\] ## Which Tarp Setup Is Best? The best tarp setups for camping are arguably: the A-frame, Adirondack, plow point, and holden tent.  However, the best tarp shelter setup depends on many factors like the weather conditions, how you’ll be using it, and pitching conditions.  Ideally, you will learn several setups including at least one which can be pitched quickly, doesn’t require trees or a ridgeline, has a built-in groundsheet, and is closed on three sides for weather protection. Note: To hang a tarp properly, you’ll need to know the [7 main tarp knots](https://momgoescamping.com/tarp-knots/) and [how to tie out the ridgeline and guylines](https://momgoescamping.com/how-tie-out-tarp/). ## Recommended Tarps: - [AquaQuest Guide Tarp](https://amzn.to/49V43Hw): All-around good tarp which comes in a variety of sizes (10×10 size is 18.3oz). - [Sea to Summit Escapist Tarp](https://amzn.to/3PQDrRg): Lightweight tarp which is still durable (medium is 6 ft. 6 in. x 8 ft. 6 in and 9.5oz; large is 10×10 ft. and 12.3oz) - [Free Soldier Tarp](https://amzn.to/4nzbR7w): Very affordable tarp which is still lightweight. Plus it has tie-outs going down the middle! (large size is 118″ × 126″ and 42oz) #### Don’t forget about cordage! You will probably need at least 30 feet (10m) for a 10×10 tarp or 40 feet (12m) for a 10×15 tarp.   I recommend getting REFLECTIVE paracord (like the one [by Werewolf](https://amzn.to/4uUFbb5) shown below) so you don’t walk into your ridgeline or tie-out points at night! ![Werevolves Reflective Paracord](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51UqEHAXKXL._SL500_.jpg) \[sta\_anchor id=”horizontal” /\] ## Horizontal Ridgeline Tarp Shelter Setups These tarp shelters all have horizontal ridgelines.  These are good options when you have two trees to pitch between. They are easy to learn and give you even headroom throughout. The downside is that you’ll need a lot of rope (length of tarp + at least 8 feet for tying around trees).  Some of the setups require even more rope to tie out guylines for walls or the roof.  While many of these setups can be done with just poles, the roof has a tendency to sag. Remember to make sure the ridgeline is perpendicular to the wind and the opening is on the leeward side! \[sta\_anchor id=”a-frame” unsan=”a frame” /\] ### 1. A-Frame Tarp Shelter [![A frame tarp shelter setup diagram](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/a-frame-tarp-shelter-setup.jpg "a frame tarp shelter setup - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/a-frame-tarp-shelter-setup.jpg) [![A frame tarp shelter setup in real life](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/a-frame-tarp-shelter-setup-1.jpg "a frame tarp shelter setup 1 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/a-frame-tarp-shelter-setup-1.jpg) The A-frame is one of the simplest and easiest tarp shelters to set up. It’s also somewhat versatile because you can hang it higher to get more headroom or hang it lower to get more interior space. The major downside is that both ends of the A-frame shelter are open, so wind and rain can get in.  For best protection, hang the A-frame so the openings aren’t facing the wind.  If possible try to have at least opening next to a natural protection, such as a big bush which will block the wind from getting inside. #### Instructions: 1. Hang your ridgeline about shoulder height.\* 2. Put the tarp over the ridgeline. The midline of the tarp should be directly over the ridgeline. 3. Spread out the sides of the tarp so they are taut. You can adjust the height of the ridgeline is you want the tarp to be higher or wider. 4. Peg down the four corners of the tarp. Peg down the entire edge of the shelter for better weather protection. 5. Use a prusik knot to secure the tarp onto the ridgeline #### Notes: - A higher ridgeline will give you more headroom but will be narrower. A lower ridgeline will give you more width inside but less headroom. - A 9×9 foot tarp hung at a 60 degree angle will give you a width of 4.5 feet and max headroom of 3.9 feet. - It’s possible to use poles to hang the A-frame, but you’ll really need to stake them out. Even then, the roof will still sag – so it’s best to use a ridgeline for this tarp shelter. #### Pros: - Adjustable height and width - Very fast and easy setup - Weather protection on two sides #### Cons: - Somewhat claustrophobic inside --- \[sta\_anchor id=”lean-to” /\] ### 2. Lean-To Tarp Shelter [![lean to tarp shelter setup](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/lean-to-tarp-shelter-setup.jpg "lean to tarp shelter setup - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/lean-to-tarp-shelter-setup.jpg) [![lean to tarp shelter setup in real life](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/lean-to-tarp-shelter.jpg "lean to tarp shelter - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/lean-to-tarp-shelter.jpg) Also called a wind break shelter, the lean-to tarp setup is fast and easy. The downside is that it doesn’t protect against rain well.  It’s also not great against wind, unless the wind doesn’t change direction.  For this reason, the lean-to is only recommended for tarp camping in good weather or as a quick shelter setup for breaks. #### Instructions: 1. Hang a ridgeline between two trees. Attach your tarp to the ridgeline. Alternatively, tie the top two corners of the tarp to the trees. 2. Peg out the bottom corners of the tarp. #### Notes: - You can also use poles to hang a lean-to shelter. In this case, first peg out the bottom two corners of the tarp. Then attach the top two corners to poles and stake them out. - The “Envelope” pitch is a variation of the lean-to. Simply fold the tarp under itself to create a groundsheet before attaching it to the ridgeline. #### Pros: - Very fast and easy to pitch - Possible with square or rectangular tarps - Can pitch with ridgeline or poles - Good headroom and interior space #### Cons: - Poor wind and rain protection --- \[sta\_anchor id=”wind-shed” /\] ### 3. Wind Shed [![wind shed tarp shelter diagram](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/lean-to-with-roof-tarp-shelter.jpg "lean to with roof tarp shelter - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/lean-to-with-roof-tarp-shelter.jpg) **[![wind shed tarp shelter in real life](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/lean-to-wind-shed-tarp-setup-1.jpg "lean to wind shed tarp setup 1 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/lean-to-wind-shed-tarp-setup-1.jpg)** Also called a fold-over wind shed, this tarp setup is a cross between a lean-to and an A-frame.  Depending on the weather, you can set it up so the roof is flat (for more headroom and shade) or slanted (to repel rain).  When the roof is slanted downwards (as in the drawing), the setup is called a “wind shield *wedge*.” #### Instructions: 1. Hang a ridgeline. 2. Drape your tarp over the ridgeline so approximately 2/3 is hanging on the windward side and the other 1/3 is on the leeward side. 3. Extend the longer side of the tarp to make an angled wall. Secure the corners to the ground. 4. Using rope or poles, secure the corners of the shorter side to make a roof. #### Notes: You can pitch using poles instead of a ridgeline, but it’s somewhat tricky.  You’ll need a lot of rope to stake out the poles to make it stable enough.  Even then, the roof ends up sagging and doesn’t hold up well in high winds. #### Pros: - Good headroom - Fast and easy setup - Wind protection from one side - Some rain protection #### Cons: - Requires a lot of rope - Guylines are tripping hazard - Difficult to pitch with poles instead of a ridgeline --- \[sta\_anchor id=”c-fly” /\] ### 4. C-Fly Tarp Setup [![c fly tarp shelter setup diagram](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/c-fly-tarp-shelter-setup.jpg "c fly tarp shelter setup - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/c-fly-tarp-shelter-setup.jpg) [![c fly tarp shelter setup in real life](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/c-fly-tarp-shelter-setup-1.jpg "c fly tarp shelter setup 1 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/c-fly-tarp-shelter-setup-1.jpg) The C-fly tarp setup is the same as the wind shield setup.  The difference is that, with the C-fly, you fold under part of the tarp to create a groundsheet.  Because much of the tarp is used for the groundsheet, you won’t have as much interior space or headroom. As with the wind shield setup, you can keep the roof flat (for more headroom and shade) or angle it downwards (for better rain protection). When the roof is slanted downwards, it’s called a “C-fly wedge.” #### Instructions: 1. Hang a ridgeline about waist or shoulder height. A lower ridgeline will give you more weather protection but less headroom. 2. Fold the tarp under on line AB. This will be your groundsheet. It should be at least 2 feet wide for one person. 3. Drape the rest of the tarp over the ridgeline. AB should be on the windward side and CD should be on the leeward side. 4. Adjust the tarp so line CD is sitting on the ridgeline. The part hanging over the ridgeline (CDFE) will be your “roof”. 5. Pull corners A and B back to make an angled wall. Then stake them out. 6. Use rope or poles to secure points E and F to make a roof. 7. To make the shelter roof more taut, secure line CD to the ridgeline with a prusik knot. [![C fly tarp setup instructions](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/c-fly-diagram-1.jpg "c fly diagram 1 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/c-fly-diagram-1.jpg) #### Notes: - To keep the wall and roof taut, secure points C and D to the ridgeline using a prusik knot. #### Pros: - Has groundsheet - Adjustable height/interior space - Decent weather protection #### Cons: - No weather protection on two sides - Requires a lot of rope - Can trip over guylines in the dark - Difficult to pitch with poles instead of a ridgeline --- \[sta\_anchor id=”adirondack” /\] ### 5. Adirondack Wind Shed [![adirondack tarp shelter setup](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/adirondack-tarp-shelter-setup.jpg "adirondack tarp shelter setup - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/adirondack-tarp-shelter-setup.jpg) [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/adirondack-tarp-shelter-1.jpg "adirondack tarp shelter 1 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/adirondack-tarp-shelter-1.jpg) This is one of my favorite tarp shelters.  It offers very good weather protection while still giving you lots of interior space and headroom.  One side is open, so you can have a fire in front of the shelter.   Leave the “roof” up in good weather.  If the weather gets bad, simply re-stake point D to pull the roof down. The setup is also fairly flexible: you can experiment with folding the tarp at different places.  Make the triangle folds bigger for more weather protection. #### Instructions: 1. Hang a ridgeline about shoulder height. 2. Fold the tarp so triangle AEF is on the ground. The line EF should be on the windward side and point A on the leeward side. 3. Drape the tarp over your ridgeline. Line GH should be sitting on the ridgeline. 4. Pull EFHG back to create a wall. If you aren’t happy with the angle of the wall, adjust the height of your ridgeline. 5. Stake out points E and F 6. Pull point C inwards to create a side wall. Stake it down.  Do the same with point B. 7. Using rope or a pole, stake out point D. 8. To make the shelter more taut, use a prusik knot to secure points D and G to the ridgeline. [![adirondack tarp shelter diagram instructions](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/adirondack-tarp-shelter-diagram-1.jpg "adirondack tarp shelter diagram 1 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/adirondack-tarp-shelter-diagram-1.jpg) #### Notes: - If you want to use poles instead of a ridgeline with this setup, you’ll probably need a partner to help. - Use fluorescent rope so you don’t trip over your guylines! #### Pros: - Good headroom and interior space - Great wind protection - Decent rain protection - Has partial groundsheet #### Cons: - A somewhat difficult setup which requires practice to get right - Uses a lot of rope - Guylines are a tripping hazard --- \[sta\_anchor id=”body-bag” /\] ### 6. Body Bag Tarp Setup [![body bag tarp shelter](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/body-bag-tarp-shelter.jpg "body bag tarp shelter - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/body-bag-tarp-shelter.jpg) [![body bag tarp setup in real life](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/body-bag-tarp-setup-1.jpg "body bag tarp setup 1 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/body-bag-tarp-setup-1.jpg) Also called a tube tent, this is a simple tarp shelter. Because it is so small and uncomfortable, it’s really only for emergency situations.  It is only closed on two sides.  However, because the openings are so small, the tree trunks used for pitching will actually provide some weather protection.  For even more protection, pitch next to a bush, boulder, or other natural protection. #### Instructions: 1. Hang a ridgeline around thigh height.\* 2. Fold the tarp along AB to create a groundsheet. 3. Drape the tarp over the ridgeline so CD is sitting on the ridgeline. 4. Adjust the position of the walls then stake out points A, B, E and F. [![body bag tarp setup diagram instructions](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/body-bag-tarp-setup-diagram-1.jpg "body bag tarp setup diagram 1 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/body-bag-tarp-setup-diagram-1.jpg) #### Notes: - A 9×9 tarp will only give you a bit more than 2.5 feet of headroom at the highest point. - I don’t recommend using poles for pitching the body bag setup. The roof will sag and there’s barely any headroom as is! #### Pros: - Good rain and wind protection from two sides - Has groundsheet - Quick and easy to set up #### Cons: - Open on two sides - Claustrophobic inside - No headroom and very little interior space - Have to crawl inside --- \[sta\_anchor id=”shade-sail” /\] ### 7. Shade Sail [![shade sail tarp setup with hammock](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/shade-sail-tarp-shelter-setup.jpg "shade sail tarp shelter setup - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/shade-sail-tarp-shelter-setup.jpg) [![shade sail tarp setup with hammock in real life](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/shade-sail-tarp-setup.jpg "shade sail tarp setup - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/shade-sail-tarp-setup.jpg) The shade sail is also called the “hammock shelter” or the “diamond tarp.”  Because it is pitched on the diagonal, you get more coverage. It’s popular for hammock camping and also as a sun shade for camp kitchens or even patios. Note that the shade sail setup is *not* the same as the diamond fly. The diamond fly is also pitched on the diagonal, but one corner is staked to the ground.  With the shade sail, both corners are elevated. #### Instructions: 1. Hang a ridgeline. 2. Drape the tarp over the ridgeline. The *diagonal* midline should be on the ridgeline. 3. Use a prusik knot to secure the corners to the ridgeline. 4. Stake out the corners to create two angled walls. Keep the walls angled lower for more weather protection. #### Notes: - If you aren’t using a ridgeline, then just tie the diagonal corners to trees. Or attach to poles.  However, the roof will sag a lot without a ridgeline. - The guylines on this are serious tripping hazards. Use fluorescent rope! #### Pros: - Easy to pitch - Lots of interior space - Decent protection from rain and wind #### Cons: - Uses a lot of rope - Guylines are tripping hazards - Roof sags without ridgeline --- \[sta\_anchor id=”bakers” /\] ### 8. Baker’s Wind Shed [![bakers wind shed tarp setup](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/bakers-wind-shed.jpg "bakers wind shed - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/bakers-wind-shed.jpg) The baker’s wind shed tarp setup uses a rectangular tarp. The tarp needs to be *at least* 10 feet on the long side if you want to sleep in it with your head towards the side walls.  If your tarp is very large, you could also sleep with your head towards the back wall of the shelter. I personally don’t like the baker’s wind shed setup very much.  The Adirondack gives you more protection without sacrificing much space.  However, the baker’s wind shed can be good when tarp camping with multiple people all sharing one big tarp. #### Instructions: 1. Stake FG to the ground on the windward side. 2. Pull point A inward. Line AF should be at approximately 90 degrees with FG. Stake point A to the ground. Then the same with point D. 3. Attach points B and C to a ridgeline or poles. 4. Tuck corners E and H underneath the shelter to create a partial groundsheet. Alternatively, you can leave them outside the shelter. [![bakers wind shed diagram instructions](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/bakers-wind-shed-diagram-1.jpg "bakers wind shed diagram 1 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/bakers-wind-shed-diagram-1.jpg) #### Notes: - Lines AB and CD are the height of the shelter when set up. - An 8×16 foot tarp can be folded so line BC is 6 feet long. This will give you a max height of 5 feet and a depth of 9.4 feet. #### Pros: - Lots of interior space - Protection on three sides #### Cons: - Need a long tarp - Not lots of headroom \[sta\_anchor id=”diagonal” /\] ## Tarp Setups with Diagonal Ridgelines These tarp setups are good for when you only have one tree.  You can also use a pole instead of a tree for many of these tarp setups.  Unlike with the setups which use horizontal ridgelines, the roof won’t sag as much.  Another benefit of these setups is that they don’t use a lot of rope. You can get by with just 3 feet of rope for pitching some (though I recommend always bringing more just in case!). There is less interior space around the foot-end of the shelter, so the tarp will trap heat better.  The drawback of this though is that they are claustrophic and you may need to crawl in feet-first. \[sta\_anchor id=”bivvy-bag” /\] ### 9. Bivvy Bag Tarp Shelter [![bivvy bag tarp shelter setup](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/bivvy-bag-tarp-shelter-setup.jpg "bivvy bag tarp shelter setup - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/bivvy-bag-tarp-shelter-setup.jpg) [![bivvy bag tarp shelter setup in real life](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/bivvy-bag-corner-tarp-shelter-1.jpg "bivvy bag corner tarp shelter 1 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/bivvy-bag-corner-tarp-shelter-1.jpg)Also called the “cornet”, the bivvy bag tarp shelter is incredibly cramped (hence the name).  However, it’s also one of the best tarp shelters for bad weather.  You can pitch the bivvy bag on one tree or with a single pole.  Unlike other tarp shelters which use poles, this one is actually easy to set up. Ultralight backpackers will also love that the bivvy bag shelter requires just one guyline, so you save weight on rope. #### **What size tarp for a bivvy bag shelter?** You will probably want a 10×10 foot tarp for the bivvy bag shelter.  The smallest size you can get away with is an 8×8 foot tarp.  This will give you a shelter with an entranceway 4 feet tall and 4 feet wide and a length of 11 feet.   But note that the groundsheet starts between CE (not at point D!).  So, with an 8×8 tarp, the groundsheet length is only about 7 feet long. Because the end is so cramped, there’s actually barely enough room for a 6 foot tall person. You only get 3 feet of headroom at the place where the groundsheet starts and it gets narrow quickly. #### Instructions: 1. Fold the tarp in half on the diagonal line AD 2. While holding the tarp upwards from point D, tuck sides AF and AB underneath so they are slightly overlapping each other. This will prevent the groundsheet part of the tarp from touching wet or muddy ground. 3. Stake point A to the ground. 4. Secure point D to a tree or pole. 5. Adjust the walls and then stake out points E and C. [![bivvy bag tarp shelter instructions](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/bivvy-bag-cornet-tarp-shelter-setup-diagram-1.jpg "bivvy bag cornet tarp shelter setup diagram 1 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/bivvy-bag-cornet-tarp-shelter-setup-diagram-1.jpg) #### Notes: - The bivvy bag shelter is sometimes incorrectly called the - Because of the shape, this tarp shelter is not good for two people. #### Pros: - Good weather protection - Has groundsheet - Uses almost no rope - Can pitch with one tree or pole - Traps body heat #### Cons: - Very claustrophobic inside - No headroom - Have to crawl inside feet first --- \[sta\_anchor id=”hunchback” /\] ### 10. Hunchback Bivvy Bag [![hunchback bivvy bag tarp shelter setup](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/hunchback-bivvy-bag-tarp-shelter-setup.jpg "hunchback bivvy bag tarp shelter setup - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/hunchback-bivvy-bag-tarp-shelter-setup.jpg) [![hunchback bivvy bag shelter real life photo](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/hunchback-bivvy-bag-shelter-1.jpg "hunchback bivvy bag shelter 1 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/hunchback-bivvy-bag-shelter-1.jpg) The hunchback tarp shelter is a variation of the bivvy bag setup.  It uses a pole to support the roof above the groundsheet.  This allows you to angle point D downwards to create a “beak,” which means that the shelter roof blocks rain better. #### Instructions: 1. Fold the tarp in half on the diagonal line AD 2. While holding the tarp upwards from point D, tuck sides AF and AB underneath so they are slightly overlapping each other. This will prevent the groundsheet part of the tarp from touching wet or muddy ground. 3. Stake point A to the ground. 4. Put a pole upright at point G 5. Secure point D to the ground 6. Adjust the walls and then stake out points E and C. [![hunchback bivvy bag shelter diagram instructions](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/hunchback-bivvy-bag-shelter-diagram-1.jpg "hunchback bivvy bag shelter diagram 1 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/hunchback-bivvy-bag-shelter-diagram-1.jpg) #### **Notes:** - This tarp setup doesn’t need a ridgeline or trees at all, but I included it in this section so you can see how it differs from the classic bivvy bag setup. - You can also set it up without a pole.  In this case, you’ll create a tie-out point at point G and use guylines to attach it to a tree.  Then you’ll tie the guyline at point D to the ground. #### Pros: - Great weather protection - Has groundsheet - Uses almost no rope - Can pitch with one tree or pole - Traps body heat #### Cons: - Very claustrophobic inside - No headroom - Have to crawl inside feet first - Requires a pole - Can easily knock pole over --- \[sta\_anchor id=”plow-point” /\] ### 11. Plow Point [![plow point tarp shelter setup](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/plow-point-tarp-shelter-setup.jpg "plow point tarp shelter setup - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/plow-point-tarp-shelter-setup.jpg) [![plow point tarp shelter setup real life photograph](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/plough-point-diamond-tarp-shelter-setup-1.jpg "plough point diamond tarp shelter setup 1 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/plough-point-diamond-tarp-shelter-setup-1.jpg) Also called the plough point, flying V or diamond fly, this is another easy tarp shelter.  You don’t need to use a ridgeline at all – just tie it directly to a tree.  However, the plow point does have a tendency to sag if you don’t use a ridgeline. #### Instructions: 1. Secure one corner of the tarp down on the windward side. 2. Tie the opposite corner to a tree or secure it to a pole. 3. Spread out the sides and secure down the remaining corners. #### **Notes:** - Tying the tarp higher will give you more headroom but less interior space and weather protection. #### **Pros:** - Very easy to pitch - Uses very little rope - Only needs one tree or pole - Adjustable height and interior space - Lots of room for gear storage #### **Cons:** - Hard to get sides taut without ridgeline - No protection on one side --- \[sta\_anchor id=”half-pyramid” /\] ### 12. Half Pyramid Free End [![half pyramid tarp shelter setup diagram](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/half-pyramid-tarp-shelter-setup.jpg "half pyramid tarp shelter setup - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/half-pyramid-tarp-shelter-setup.jpg) [![half pyramid free end shelter real life picture](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/half-pyramid-free-end-shelter-1.jpg "half pyramid free end shelter 1 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/half-pyramid-free-end-shelter-1.jpg) I personally don’t like this tarp shelter setup very much.  IMO, the A-frame closed end or diamond fly give better coverage while providing more interior space.  The bit of groundsheet you get with the half pyramid isn’t enough to justify the lost interior space. However, the half pyramid can be very useful when combined with other tarp setups.  For example, you can use it to make a vestibule or close off the entrance of another setup.  Or you can put two half pyramids together to make a fully-enclosed tent. #### Instructions: 1. Fold point A under the tarp. Stake down points E and F. 2. Secure point D to a tree or pole. 3. Pull in point B to create a wall. Depending on the angle of the roof, you may need to fold under some of the tarp.  Stake down the corner.  Do the same with point C. [![half pyramid free end tarp shelter instructions](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/half-pyramid-free-end-tarp-shelter-diagram-1.jpg "half pyramid free end tarp shelter diagram 1 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/half-pyramid-free-end-tarp-shelter-diagram-1.jpg) #### Pros: - Lots of headroom - Easy setup - Can be used with other setups - Decent weather protection #### Cons: - Only partial groundsheet - Not much interior space --- \[sta\_anchor id=”forester” /\] ### 13. Forester [![forester tarp shelter setup](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/forester-tarp-shelter-setup.jpg "forester tarp shelter setup - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/forester-tarp-shelter-setup.jpg) [![forester tarp shelter setup real life pictures](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/forester-tarp-shelter-setup-1.jpg "forester tarp shelter setup 1 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/forester-tarp-shelter-setup-1.jpg) The forester is a more difficult tarp shelter to pitch.  It doesn’t work well with tarps made from more rigid materials (like painter’s dropcloth).  You are better off using silnylon or canvas.  Once you master this pitch though, it’s incredibly useful.  You get excellent weather protection without sacrificing usable space. #### Instructions: 1. Stake down corner A on the windward side. 2. Fold point D downwards to create point G. 3. Support point G with a pole. It helps to have a partner hold it up for you while doing the next steps. 4. Pull point C forward to create wall ACG. Stake point C down. 5. Pull point B forward to create wall ABC. Stake point B down. 6. Spread out triangles CGE and BGF to make door flaps. 7. You’ll have a bit of extra tarp material hanging inside the shelter. You can use a clip to hold it out of the way. [![forester tarp shelter setup diagram and instructions](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/forester-tarp-shelter-setup-diagram-1.jpg "forester tarp shelter setup diagram 1 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/forester-tarp-shelter-setup-diagram-1.jpg) **Tip:** If you are going to use this pitch frequently, I suggest making a little mark on your tarp where the pole should go.  Also note the height of the pole.   This will make it faster and easier to set up. #### Pros: - Excellent weather protection - Doesn’t require trees - Uses very little rope - Lots of interior space and decent headroom #### Cons: - Difficult to pitch, especially alone - Requires pole --- \[sta\_anchor id=”bunker” /\] ### 14. Bunker Half Cone Fly [![bunker half cone fly tarp shelter setup](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/bunker-half-cone-fly.jpg "bunker half cone fly - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/bunker-half-cone-fly.jpg) The bunker half cone fly is similar to the plow point in that both are pitched on the diagonal.  The difference is that the bunker setup uses two additional guylines to pull out the sides of the tent.  This creates a V-shaped roof and two almost vertical walls. While the configuration means you get slightly less interior space, you get much more headroom.  This makes the bunker suitable for multiple people and much more comfortable for multi-night stays.  It’s also better for larger tarps because the additional guylines prevent the walls from sagging. Despite looking easy, the bunker half cone fly is actually a bit tricky to set up.  You’ll need a good tarp too since the guylines put a lot of strain on the sides and they can easily tear. #### Instructions: 1. Stake point A to the ground on the windward side. 2. Tie point D to a tree or a pole on the leeward side. Alternatively, you can run a ridgeline from point A to a tree and connect point D to it. This will help prevent the roof from sagging. 3. Pull out point B and stake it to the ground. Do the same with point F. 4. Attach a guyline to point C. Pull it outwards and secure it to the ground. Do the same with point E. 5. If windy, stake down the edges on AB and AF [![bunker half cone fly diagram and instructions](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/bunker-half-cone-fly-diagram-1.jpg "bunker half cone fly diagram 1 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/bunker-half-cone-fly-diagram-1.jpg) #### Pros: - Good weather protection - Lots of headroom in the front - Large entryway #### Cons: - More difficult pitch - Roof sags without ridgeline - Requires two additional guylines \[sta\_anchor id=”poles” /\] ## Tarp Shelters which Use Poles (No Trees Required) These tarp shelters are a bit more tricky to set up because you’ll need to stake out the poles to keep them upright (which takes some practice). If you have a very large tarp, then you’ll need a long pole – which may require you lashing two poles together.  But, these tarp shelters are good to know in case you can’t find a suitable tree for pitching against.  They are also great tarp shelters for ultralight backpackers because you don’t need to bring much rope with some setups. Note that there are also many UL tents which use trekking poles instead of normal tent poles.  See the [best trekking pole tents](https://momgoescamping.com/best-trekking-pole-tents/) here. \[sta\_anchor id=”holden” /\] ### 15. Holden Tent [![holden tent tarp shelter setup](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/holden-tent-tarp-shelter-setup.jpg "holden tent tarp shelter setup - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/holden-tent-tarp-shelter-setup.jpg) [![a frame closed end holden tent real life picture](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/a-frame-closed-end-holden-tent-1.jpg "a frame closed end holden tent 1 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/a-frame-closed-end-holden-tent-1.jpg) Also called the “A-frame closed end” shelter, the holden setup is one of the best tarp shelters for ultralight backpacking, especially with two people.  It is very fast to pitch and doesn’t require any trees. For a tarp shelter with three walls, there is actually a lot of interior space inside and decent headroom. Since the shelter is open on one side, it doesn’t feel claustrophic either. My main complaint with the holden tent shelter is that you have to lay the tarp flat on the ground. This means that, if the ground is muddy, the underside of the tent completely dirty.  Thus, for muddy weather, you are better off with a shelter like the plow point. #### Instructions: 1. Lay the tarp flat on the ground. 2. Stake out points A, B and C. 3. Put a pole under the tarp at point E. You’ll need to angle it slightly forward. 4. Pull point D forward to create a wall then stake it down. Do the same with point F. You might need to have a partner hold the pole upright while doing this. 5. Secure the pole in position with a guyline. [![holden tent tarp shelter instructions](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/a-frame-closed-end-diagram-1.jpg "a frame closed end diagram 1 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/a-frame-closed-end-diagram-1.jpg) #### Notes: - Depending on where you stake down the walls, you will end up with either a square or triangular interior. #### Pros: - Good interior space - Decent headroom - Weather protection from three sides #### Cons: - Can accidentally knock over the pole when getting in/out - Takes practice to pitch by yourself --- \[sta\_anchor id=”dining-fly” /\] ### 16. Dining Fly [![dining fly tarp shelter setup](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/dining-fly.jpg "dining fly - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/dining-fly.jpg) The dining fly is one of the most important tarp shelters to know for car camping.  As the name suggests, it is great for creating a covered area for cooking and eating.  It might take a few tries to figure out the optimal height and roof angle (and thus the right pole length and guyline position).  But, once you figure this out, the dining fly is actually pretty simple to set up. #### Instructions: 1. Lay the tarp flat on the ground where you want your shelter to be. 2. Attach guylines (about 4-6 feet long each) to all four corners of the tarp. 3. Stake out all of the guylines. They should be approximately 5 feet away from the corners of the tarp and set at a 45 degree angle from the corners. 4. Find two very long poles. If you can’t find poles long enough, you can join two poles together using round lashings. 5. Using half hitches, tie long guylines to the top of each pole. 6. Push the first pole underneath the tarp so it’s at middle edge. It helps to have someone hold this pole in place while you do the next steps. 7. Push the second pole underneath the tarp. Now the roof of the dining fly should be completely raised. 8. Stake out the guylines on the poles. 9. Adjust the guylines on the corners so the tarp is very taut. #### Pros: - Excellent headroom - Lots of interior space #### Cons: - Uses two very long poles and a lot of rope - Takes practice to set up, even with help - Rain and wind enter from sides when pitched high - Underside of tarp gets dirty when ground is muddy or wet --- \[sta\_anchor id=”toque” /\] ### 17. Toque Tent [![toque tent tarp shelter setup](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/toque-tent-tarp-shelter-setup.jpg "toque tent tarp shelter setup - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/toque-tent-tarp-shelter-setup.jpg) The toque tarp tent is quite different from the other setups.  Instead of having the pole in the front of the shelter, the pole is set in the back.  This means you end up with more headroom in the back (but a really low entranceway).  Two guylines pull on the entranceway to create an awning.  This awning does a great job of repelling water away from the shelter.  However, the toque tent isn’t very stable in heavy winds. #### Instructions: 1. Fold the tarp so points A and B are together. Stake them to the ground together on the windward side. This is now called “point AB.” 2. Put a pole under point G. The bottom of the pole should sit on point AB. This will make sides AG and BG stand straight up. 3. Pull out point C to create triangular wall AGC. Stake down point C.  Do the same with point F. 4. Attach guylines to points D and E. Pull them outwards and stake them down.  This will create a low awning. [![toque tent diagram instructions](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/toque-tent-diagram-1.jpg "toque tent diagram 1 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/toque-tent-diagram-1.jpg) #### Pros: - Pole at back instead of blocking entryway - Good rain protection #### Cons: - Weird interior space - Not very sturdy in high winds --- \[sta\_anchor id=”tarp-tent” /\] ### 18. Tarp Tent [![tarp tent shelter setup](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/tarp-tent-shelter-setup.jpg "tarp tent shelter setup - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/tarp-tent-shelter-setup.jpg) The tarp tent configuration can be a bit confusing at first.  But, it’s actually not that difficult to set up. It’s a favorite tarp shelter for ultralight backpacking. #### Instructions: 1. Lay tarp flat on the ground. 2. Stake out points A and B. 3. Now stake out points C and D, making sure that folds AD and BC are nice and tight. 4. Tuck corner F underneath fold AD. Then tuck corner E underneath fold BC. 5. Point H is on the ground. Pull tarp corner G there and stake it in place. 6. Point J is also on the ground. Pull tarp corner I there and stake it down. 7. Put a pole underneath the tarp so it stands up at point K. Put a cloth over the top of the pole so it doesn’t tear a hole in your tarp. 8. You’ll have a flap of tarp hanging in the entryway to the shelter. 9. Attach guylines to the midway points on the flap (points L and M). Pull the guylines back and secure them to the ground along the walls of the shelter. 10. Run a guyline from point N to the ground directly in front of the shelter. [![tarp tent shelter instructions](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/tarp-tent-setup-diagram-1.jpg "tarp tent setup diagram - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/tarp-tent-setup-diagram-1.jpg) #### Pros: - Excellent weather protection - Decent interior space #### Cons: - Underside of tarp gets dirty if setting up on wet or muddy ground - Slightly more difficult to learn - Pole can get knocked over \[sta\_anchor id=”other” /\] ## Other Tarp Shelter Setups Once you learn the basic tarp shelter setups, you will be able to experiment with variations to meet your needs — such as staking out an extra side to get more interior space or adjusting the position of the ceiling to block rain.  Here are some examples. \[sta\_anchor id=”modified-a-frame” /\] ### 19. Modified A-Frame One wall of the tarp has been pulled outwards in the middle to get more interior space, but the sides are down for weather protection. [![modified a frame tarp shelter pitch](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/modified-a-frame-tarp-shelter-pitch.jpg "modified a frame tarp shelter pitch - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/modified-a-frame-tarp-shelter-pitch.jpg) \[sta\_anchor id=”kayak-pitch” /\] ### 20. Kayak Pitch This is essential an A-frame tarp setup with one side more slanted down than the other. Instead of poles, kayak paddles are used. [![kayak tarp shelter pitch](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/kayak-tarp-shelter-pitch.jpg "kayak tarp shelter pitch - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/kayak-tarp-shelter-pitch.jpg) \[sta\_anchor id=”large-bunker” /\] ### 21. Large Bunker This tarp setup a lot like the bunker half cone.  However, there are extra guylines on the sides.  This helps pull out the walls to keep them from sagging and to give you more interior space. [![large bunker tarp shelter](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/large-bunker-tarp-shelter.jpg "large bunker tarp shelter - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/large-bunker-tarp-shelter.jpg) \[sta\_anchor id=”ul-tarp-setup” /\] ### 22. UL Tarp Setup Pitching low to the ground means you get weather protection even from a tiny, ultralight tarp.  The head area is staked a bit higher  so it isn’t as claustrophic inside. [![ul tarp shelter setup](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/ul-tarp-shelter-setup.jpg "ul tarp shelter setup - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/ul-tarp-shelter-setup.jpg) \[sta\_anchor id=”wind-shed-variation” /\] ### 23. Wind Shed Variation One walls slants and the other has a partial wedge to make use of the space and tree positions. [![wind shed tarp shelter variation 1](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/wind-shed-variation-1.jpg "wind shed variation 1 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/wind-shed-variation-1.jpg) \[sta\_anchor id=”wind-shed-variation-2″ /\] ### 24. Wind Shed Variation 2 [![wind shed tarp shelter variation 2](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/wind-shed-variation-2.jpg "wind shed variation 2 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/wind-shed-variation-2.jpg) \[sta\_anchor id=”half-tetra” /\] ### 25. Half Tetra Wedge Cover This is a flying half tetra wedge setup.  The roof is angled downwards, which is great for directing water off the tarp in rainy weather. [![half tetra wedge cover tarp shelter](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/half-tetra-wedge-cover-tarp-shelter.jpg "half tetra wedge cover tarp shelter - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/half-tetra-wedge-cover-tarp-shelter.jpg) \[sta\_anchor id=”homemade-tarp” /\] ### 26. Homemade Tarp Here’s a very small, UL tarp made by Bob Cartwright of [The Outdoor Station](https://www.theoutdoorsstation.co.uk/more-info/about-us/). [![homemade tarp shelter](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/homemade-tarp-shelter.jpg "homemade tarp shelter - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/homemade-tarp-shelter.jpg) \[sta\_anchor id=”umbrella” /\] ### 27. Umbrella Here’s a way to set up a tarp so it makes an umbrella shape. [![umbrella tarp shelter setup](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/umbrella-tarp-shelter-setup.jpg "umbrella tarp shelter setup - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/umbrella-tarp-shelter-setup.jpg) ## Tarp Shelter FAQ ### What size tarp do I need for a shelter? ### A 10×10 foot tarp is the most versatile size and works for nearly every setup in this guide. For solo shelters like the bivvy bag, an 8×8 foot tarp is the smallest you can get away with — that gives you a 4-foot entrance and roughly 7 feet of usable groundsheet, which is barely enough for a 6-foot-tall person. As a reference point, a 9×9 foot tarp pitched as an A-frame at a 60 degree angle gives you 4.5 feet of width and 3.9 feet of headroom. Larger groups sharing one shelter (like the baker’s wind shed) will want a long rectangular tarp at least 10 feet on the long side. ### How much rope do you need for a tarp shelter? ### Plan on at least 30 feet of cordage for a 10×10 tarp or 40 feet for a 10×15 tarp. Setups with horizontal ridgelines need the most rope — the length of your tarp plus at least 8 feet for tying around trees, and more if the setup uses guylines for walls or the roof. Diagonal ridgeline setups like the bivvy bag use almost no rope; some can be pitched with as little as 3 feet. Whatever you bring, choose reflective or fluorescent cord so nobody walks into your guylines at night. --- ###### Image credits: “[Pyramid and Tarps](https://www.flickr.com/photos/umnak/13522257713/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [Umnak](https://www.flickr.com/people/umnak/) “[Finland\_Canoeing\_01](https://www.flickr.com/photos/jjay69/7558095954/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [jjay69](https://www.flickr.com/people/jjay69/), “[Kitchen Tarp](https://www.flickr.com/photos/umnak/8948734211/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [Umnak](https://www.flickr.com/people/umnak/) “[Bob and Tarp](https://www.flickr.com/photos/andy-howell/198268679/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Andy Howell](https://www.flickr.com/people/andy-howell/) “[Our Tarp at Petroglyph](https://www.flickr.com/photos/umnak/14356409944/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [Umnak](https://www.flickr.com/people/umnak/) “[Tarp camp shelter](https://www.flickr.com/photos/umnak/207514238/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [Umnak](https://www.flickr.com/people/umnak/) “[Sheep Camp Tarp](https://www.flickr.com/photos/umnak/9430247786/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [Umnak](https://www.flickr.com/people/umnak/) “[Inner Point Camp](https://www.flickr.com/photos/umnak/4396849281/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [Umnak](https://www.flickr.com/people/umnak/) “[Sarah’s tarp](https://www.flickr.com/photos/umnak/3895200242/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [Umnak](https://www.flickr.com/people/umnak/) “[Tarp Camp on Deer Island, Ernest Sound,](https://www.flickr.com/photos/umnak/183556622/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [Umnak](https://www.flickr.com/people/umnak/) “[Tarp Camp, Inner Pt](https://www.flickr.com/photos/umnak/7429615430/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [Umnak](https://www.flickr.com/people/umnak/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking **Tags:** tarp --- ### [Taking Your Dog Hiking? 11 Things to Know before You Go](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-with-dog/) **Published:** February 10, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I love animals but recently I’ve started getting pissed off when I see people taking their dogs hiking.  It’s not that dogs shouldn’t get to enjoy the outdoors with their owners.  It’s that a lot of these hiking dog owners are acting incredibly irresponsible or downright dangerous. Of course, *you* would never act like one of these irresponsible hikers!  Just to make sure, here are 11 important rules to follow when taking your dog hiking. ## 1. Clean Up Your Dog’s Poop *“But other animals poop in the woods.  Why should I clean up my dog’s poop while hiking???”* It might seem like it’s okay to leave your dog’s poop in the woods (or desert, mountains, or wherever you go hiking).  However, the rule of Leave No Trace also applies to pets. Your dog’s crap does not contain the same microorganisms which are found in wild animal poo. These microorganisms can cause infections in the local animal populations.   They can also infect local waterways, which is one reason we are seeing tapeworms in areas where they didn’t use to be found.  On top of that, since dogs eat kibble, their poop is high in nitrogen, phosphorus and other chemicals which can disrupt ecosystems. For more on this, Leave No Trace has a great article on the [difference between wildlife poop and dog poop](https://lnt.org/wildlife-poop-versus-dog-poop-explained/). On top of the ecological impact, no one wants to see your dog’s crap.  It might not be a big deal for one dog to poop once on a hiking trail, but what about all the dogs which pass through every day?  As one dog-loving hiker [calculated](https://pawsitivelyintrepid.com/7-creative-ways-to-deal-with-your-dogs-poop-while-hiking/): > A dog passes about 0.75lbs of poop per day.  It takes 9 *weeks* for dog poo to decompose enough to not be visible. If one dog pooped per day on the trail, that would create 47.25lbs of visible crap. In a lot of places, it’s a lot more than just one dog pooping on a hiking trail per day!  A 2018 study found 30 *tons* of dog poop left behind yearly in Colorado’s Open Space and Mountain Parks! ### **How to Deal with Dog Poop while Hiking:** - **Bag it up and carry it out.** This is the recommended method. Since you probably don’t want to carry stinky poop around with you on the hike, bring a hard container with you to hold the poop. There are fancy poop carriers you can buy.  Recycled 26oz peanut butter containers also work well. - **If you want to put it in a latrine,** make sure you use compostable plastic bags for the poo. Non-compostable bags should never go in a latrine. - **Bury it.** Alternatively, you can bury your dog’s poop just like you would with human poo. That means a hole which is at least 6 inches deep and 200 feet from a water source.  It should not be in a bag if you are going to bury it.  That means you’ll need to transfer the poop to the hole with your shovel.  Make sure you have a bag for the shovel so it doesn’t contaminate your other gear! ## 2. Keep Your Dog Leashed [![keep dog leashed while hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/dog-hiking.jpg "dog hiking - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/dog-hiking.jpg) Most dog-friendly hiking trails require pets to be kept on a leash.  There is good reason for this.  I know you think your dog is an exception, but no dog is perfect.   Even if the hiking trail allows off-leash animals, you should still probably keep your dog leashed.  Here’s why. ### Your dog might not be ready to go off-leash. There are a lot of exciting things for a dog in the wilderness: squirrels, new smells, streams to jump into…  While it’s tempting to let your dog enjoy all of this, your dog needs to respect nature too.  If your dog does any of these things, it’s a sign he/she isn’t ready to go off-leash yet: - Doesn’t abide voice commands the *first* time - Jumps on people - Barks at people or other dogs - Goes off-trail - Chases animals ### Dogs can wreak havoc on a nature. Even well-trained dog can get overly excited and run off trail after getting a whiff of wildlife, trampling plants in the process.  Unless you are certain your dog can be voice controlled and will not leave the trail, don’t let him off leash. ### Just because you love your dog, it’s doesn’t mean everyone else has to. On one hiking trip, I sat down on a log for lunch.  Then someone’s off-leash dog ran up (scaring the crap out of me in the process).  The dog jumped on me and tried to get some of my sandwich, almost tearing my hiking pants with her nails.  The owner came by a few minutes later, laughing and saying “Oh, she just loves to socialize!”    The damn owner thought it was *cute* that her dog was jumping all over me! Even if your dog won’t do this, you still need to see it from the other side.  I don’t know whether an off-leash dog I encounter on the trail is trained or not.  A lot of people are scared of dogs after getting attacked (especially people who’ve been attacked before or [dealt with feral dogs](https://momgoescamping.com/feral-dog-attacks/)). It’s *your* responsibly to respect other hikers.  It’s not their responsibility to accommodate your dog. ### Going off-leash can be dangerous for your dog. Your off-leash dog could encounter another dog while hiking – one who is aggressive.  Or it might startle a herd of mountain goats who then injure the dog (this actually happens semi frequently, like in [this case](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-utah-goat/utah-woman-denied-rescue-after-dog-tussles-with-mountain-goat-idUSKBN0G629B20140806)).  Or your excited dog might not realize he is running right off a steep cliff…  Better to play it safe than sorry! ## 3. If You Do Let Your Dog Off-Leash [![off leash dog hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/7283466336_f0dcb485cd_c.jpg "off leash dog hiking - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/7283466336_f0dcb485cd_c.jpg) Again, this isn’t advisable. But if you are going to let your dog hike off-leash, then follow these rules. - **Practice.** Don’t let your dog off leash for the first time during a wilderness hike. You could get separated and never see your dog again.  Instead, practice in familiar territory first. - **Your dog must be voice-trained.** This means your dog must obey voice commands *on the first time*. - **Keep your dog within sight and earshot.** - **Leash your dog if you encounter another off-leash dog or any other animals.**  This includes cows, horses, goats, etc. - **Consider a reflective vest.** This helps you see your dog in low-light situations and also makes your dog more visible to oncoming hikers, who might otherwise get spooked. - **Leash your dog on busy trails and parking lots.** You might also want to get a tactical collar for your dog.  These collars are thicker and have a handle; you can grab hold of the handle quickly to better control your dog if need be. ## 4. Yield to Other Hikers Whether your dog is leashed or off-leash, you should always yield to EVERYONE.  This includes other hikers, bikers, and horses. Make sure your dog is heeled out of “sniffing range” of anyone passing. If your dog is off-leash, then call your dog and have him sit-stay until the other hikers have passed. ## 5. Know How to Keep Your Dog Safe Around Other Animals With regards to animal safety, you might be thinking of animals like bears, wolves, and mountain lions.  Yes, these wild animals do pose a risk to your dog while hiking.  However, your dog is even more likely to be injured by domesticated animals like other dogs, cows, or horses. Consider this: [Cows are actually the most deadly animal for hikers](https://momgoescamping.com/attacked-cows-camping/).  You are more likely to be killed by a cow than by a bear. In most of the cases, dogs were the cause of the cow attacks. Dogs look like predators to cows.  When cows see the dog, it can scare them and cause them to charge.  A 1,300lb animal can do a lot of damage if it charges into and stomps on you!  Worried for their dogs, owners often pick up their dogs – which results in them getting charged, injured, and possibly killed. ### How can you keep your dog safe around animals while hiking? - **Keep your dog on a leash.** Especially around other animals or any area known for predatory animals. - **Let your dog off-leash if attacked.** If an animal feels threatened by your dog and attacks, it’s best to let your dog off-leash. Your dog is faster than you and more likely to escape unharmed if it can run freely. - **Put bells on your dog’s leash.** The noise will warn wild animals of your presence, reducing the likelihood of startling them and getting attacked. - **Use a walking stick.** In addition to the many other [benefits of using trekking poles](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-poles-pros-cons/), you can use them to fend off an animal like a mountain lion if attacked. - **Carry bear spray.** Bear spray is effective against other animals too. - **Avoid hiking at dawn or dusk.** This is when dangerous wild animals like bears and mountain lions are most active. - **Consider pet insurance that covers animal attacks.** Dog gets bit by a rattlesnake? The bill will probably cost you over $4,000. If you know you are taking your dog into areas with dangerous animals, consider insurance – and watch for loopholes about hiking injuries. ### Tips for Specific Animals - **Cows:** Don’t let your dog approach the cows. Wait for the cows to get off the trail before continuing or go well around them. - **Horses:** Horses get spooked by dogs easily. When a horse is approaching, move to the side of the trail and have your dog sit-stay.  Make sure you are not hidden from the horse’s view, such as behind a tree; horses can get startled if they suddenly see a dog. Do not move until the horse passes. - **Mountain lions:** Confrontations between mountain lions and dogs are actually pretty common. Maybe reconsider hiking with your dog if it’s mountain lion area. Never run away from a mountain lion; it’s better to stand your ground. - **Bears:** Nearly half of bear-attacks in the USA involved dogs. The risk increases when a dog is allowed off-leash and could chase after a bear and aggravate it. Be cautious when hiking in bear country and keep your dog on a leash! Read this article on [what to do if you see a bear](https://momgoescamping.com/bear-safety/). - **Snakes:** Consider leaving Fido at home when hiking in venomous snake territory. Your dog should be leashed and ideally walking behind you.  You can also work on [snake training your dog](https://www.whole-dog-journal.com/care/snake-avoidance-training-for-dogs/).  It’s also possible to get a [rattlesnake vaccine](https://www.methowvalleyvethospital.com/rattlesnake-vaccine-faq) from your vet; it won’t make them immune but will buy you more time to get your dog treatment. Be prepared for a very high vet bill if your dog gets bit! ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/37125985111_563a4115a0_c.jpg "rattlesnake training a dog - Mom Goes Camping")*Rattlesnake training a dog* ## 6. Don’t Let Your Dog Eat Plants Aside from the fact it’s bad for the local flora, your dog could get sick if you allow it to eat plants it finds while hiking. **Some wild plants which are poisonous to dogs include:** - Milkweed - Hickory nuts - Horse chestnut - English laurel - Mayapple - Tansy - Meadow death camas - Death cap mushroom - Foxglove - Lily of the valley These are just a few of the wild plants poisonous to dogs, so don’t let your dog eat any greenery while hiking! ## 7. Don’t Use a Retractable Leash while Hiking Retractable leashes may have their place when walking around town but they should not be used when hiking with your dog. Here’s why: - **The leash is too long.** Retractable leashes are up to 26 feet long. At this distance, your dog could get in trouble and you will be too far away to do anything. - **The cord can break.** If your dog gets excited, he could easily break the cord and get loose. - **They can cause injury.** When the thin cord gets wrapped around something, the friction and pressure can cause burns or even amputations. The cord also often gets tangled with other dogs’ leashes or with bikes. - **The cord can damage trees.** If the cord gets wrapped around a tree or other foliage, it can slice into the bark and cause damage. - **They make it hard to control your dog.** The thin cord makes it difficult for you to pull your dog back. - **They teach bad habits.** Retractable leashes teach your dog to pull on the leash because it will extend it. This results in a dog who constantly pulls at the leash. Instead, you should hike with your dog on a sturdy leash which is 6 to 8 feet long.  For your dog’s safety and comfort, choose one which attaches with a harness instead of a collar. ## 8. Pack the Right Gear for Your Dog A lot of human hikers are guilty of not bringing proper gear when hiking because “it’s only going to be a short trip.”  This attitude is why day hikers are more likely to need rescuing than backpackers: something happens, like getting lost or injured and having to spend an unplanned night in the wilderness, and they don’t have adequate supplies.  Please read this post about [what to bring on every hike](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-packing-list/). The same attitude also applies to hiking with a dog: you must be prepared.  **Here are the supplies you’ll need to have on a hike with your dog.** - **Collapsible water bowl** - **Water:** Dogs can also get diseases like giardia, so they shouldn’t drink from water sources. Bring water for them or use a **purifier**. Large dogs drink about 0.75oz of water per pound of bodyweight per day.  Smaller dogs drink about 1.5oz per pound.  Bring extra water in hot weather. - **Doggie first aid kit:** See this post for [what to include in your dog first aid kit](https://momgoescamping.com/dog-first-aid-kit/). - **Poop bags, carrying case for filled bags, and/or trowel** - **Leash:** 6 to 8 feet long - **Collar with tag:** The tag should include your dog’s name, rabies tag, license, and your phone number. ## 9. Protect the Paws ![hiking dog in booties](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/8859921371_2c57e73f1f_c.jpg "hiking dog in booties - Mom Goes Camping") Hiking trails can have lots of jagged rocks, hot rocks, or thorny growth.  These can tear your dog’s paws and make it incredibly painful to walk.   I’ve heard plenty of stories of people having to carry their dogs for miles off the trail because they had bloody paws. **To protect your dog’s paws while hiking:** - **Go slow:** If your dog has spent a lot of time indoors, its paws will not be tough. Start with short hikes and work your way up.  Your dog’s paws will callus and toughen over time. - **Use hiking booties:** If your dog will wear them, these do wonders at keeping the paws safe. - **Paw pad balm or wax:** This adds a protective layer to your dog’s paws which can help prevent injury. - **Trim nails:** Long nails are more likely to split and tear, which can lead to infection. - **Trim hair between nails:** Long paw hair will absorb mud and dirt, causing your dog’s toes to spread uncomfortably. - **Check paws every few hours:** Make sure there aren’t any cuts or lacerations on the paw. Apply more paw balm if the paws seem too dry. ## 10.  Don’t Overpack Your Dog’s Backpack Doggie backpacks are a great way for your dog to carry some of its own gear.  How much weight can your dog safely carry? Dogs shouldn’t carry much weight until they have stopped growing, which can be 18 months for some breeds.  As a general rule, healthy adult dogs can carry 1/3 of their bodyweight.  However, it’s probably better to keep the load to a maximum of 25% of their bodyweight. ## 11. Learn the Signs of Exhaustion and Overheating Just because *you* aren’t tired or hot it doesn’t mean your dog isn’t. Some dogs aren’t able to handle hiking very well.  Short-muzzled dogs especially have a hard time in the heat.  Small puppies and senior dogs are also susceptible. Be on the lookout for these signs: - Fast panting or pulse - Excessive drooling - Glazed or sunken eyes - Vomiting or diarrhea - Becoming unresponsive - Muscle tremors - Dizziness If you see any of these signs in your dog, it’s time to take a break in a shady spot. Provide small amounts of water to drink; too much water at once actually doesn’t help hydrate. You can also put cool (but not cold) water over your dog’s ears and paws to help them cool down. If this doesn’t seem to help, get your dog to the vet. Oh, and be prepared to carry your dog out if necessary! ![injured dog being carried on a hike](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/injured-dog-being-carried.jpg "injured dog being carried - Mom Goes Camping") **Do you take your dog hiking? Let us know any tips or advice you’d like to add in the comments section below!** --- ###### Resources: <https://denver.cbslocal.com/2016/11/23/dog-owner-says-lesson-learned-after-encounter-with-mountain-lion/> <https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/48982/> <https://www.outdoorlife.com/8-common-wild-plants-that-are-poisonous-to-your-dog/> <https://youdidwhatwithyourweiner.com/washington-northwest-toxic-plants-your-dog-should-avoid/> <https://www.trailspace.com/forums/backcountry/topics/56631.html>, <https://noahsarkvet.com/11-symptoms-of-heat-exhaustion-in-dogs/> ###### Image credits: “[Bella geared up for the hike down](https://www.flickr.com/photos/simonov/8859921371/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [simonov](https://www.flickr.com/people/simonov/) “[Full Tilt](https://www.flickr.com/photos/28744394@N08/7283466336/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Appalachian Encounters](https://www.flickr.com/people/28744394@N08/) “[dog ahead of hikers in Metsäkartano](https://www.flickr.com/photos/visitlakeland/43575084210/)” ([CC BY-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/2.0/)) by [VisitLakeland](https://www.flickr.com/people/visitlakeland/), “[Rattlesnake Training](https://www.flickr.com/photos/dagnygromer/37125985111/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Dagny Gromer](https://www.flickr.com/people/dagnygromer/) ![hiking with a dog tips](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/hiking-with-a-dog-pinterest.jpg "hiking with a dog pinterest - Mom Goes Camping") ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking **Tags:** dog --- ### [The Benefits of Camping with Kids](https://momgoescamping.com/the-benefits-of-camping-with-kids/) **Published:** April 2, 2025 **Author:** Mom Goes Camping **Content:** **Benefits of Camping with Kids** Camping with kids isn’t just about roasting marshmallows and sleeping under the stars. — it is a fantastic way to bond as a family while helping your children grow in ways you might not expect. Here are some of the biggest benefits of camping with kids. ### 1. Strengthens Family Bonds Camping brings families together like nothing else. With **no screens to distract,** you’ll find yourselves talking, laughing, and working as a team. Setting up camp, cooking meals, and exploring nature together creates those precious lasting memories. ### 2. Encourages Outdoor Play and Exercise In a world where kids spend more time indoors, camping gets them outside and moving. Whether it’s hiking, swimming, or just running around the campsite, they’ll burn off energy while having fun. Plus, studies show that outdoor play improves physical health, boosts mood, and helps with concentration. ### 3. Develops Problem-Solving Skills Camping teaches kids to think on their feet. What do you do if the tent zipper gets stuck? How do you start a campfire? By facing these small challenges, kids learn resilience and problem-solving skills that will help them later in life. ### 4. Promotes Mental Well-being Nature has a calming effect on both kids and adults. Being outside reduces stress and anxiety, improves focus, and boosts overall happiness. This is especially beneficial for kids with ADHD—learn more about [camping with kids with ADHD ](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-with-an-adhd-child/)and how it can help improve attention and behavior. ### 5. Fosters a Love for Nature Spending time outdoors helps children develop an appreciation for nature. They learn about wildlife, the importance of conservation, and how to respect the environment. This hands-on experience makes a bigger impact than any classroom lesson. ### 6. Builds Confidence and Independence Letting kids take on small responsibilities—like gathering firewood, helping with meals, or navigating a trail—gives them a sense of independence. They’ll feel proud of their contributions, which helps boost confidence. ### 7. Encourages Learning in a Fun Way Camping is full of learning opportunities. Kids can identify different plants and animals, learn how to read a map, and even pick up basic survival skills. It’s a hands-on way to teach science, geography, and problem-solving in a real-world setting. ### 8. Helps Kids Unplug from Technology With no Wi-Fi or video games, kids learn to appreciate simple pleasures like storytelling, stargazing, and exploring. This digital detox allows them to be more present and engaged with their surroundings. ### 9. Creates Lifelong Memories The stories, laughter, and adventures you share while camping will become cherished memories for years to come. Whether it’s catching their first fish, spotting a shooting star, or telling ghost stories around the fire, these experiences are priceless. Camping with kids is more than just a trip—it’s an investment in their growth and well-being. So grab your tent, pack some snacks, and get ready for an unforgettable adventure! [Explore more tips for camping with kids](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-with-kids/) and start planning your next trip today! ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/c030bd8f34d2d0699ac133909e783553a875586502d845a4fa922fd39a96004f?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Mom Goes Camping [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/mom-goes-camping/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids --- ### [How to Protect Your Eyes When Hiking in Winter ](https://momgoescamping.com/protecting-eyes-hiking-winter/) **Published:** January 24, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Few environments are so awe-inspiring to hike and [camp in as snow-covered mountains](https://momgoescamping.com/winter-camping/) and fields. But don’t take these situations too lightly. For one thing, you’ll find it difficult to see, all thanks to how bright such an environment can be. What you may not realize is that the glare of the sun that’s making you squint can actually damage one’s eyes. It’s called snow blindness and though usually temporary, there’s risk involved if you don’t take enough care when hiking in winter. Here’s what you need to know to keep your eyes safe when hiking and camping in snow. ## What is Snow Blindness? Snow blindness is also called photokeratitis. In most cases, [snow blindnes](https://www.healthline.com/health/snow-blindness) is a temporary condition where you may experience pain and discomfort in the eyes because of exposing them to too much UV light. This can happen due to the sun reflecting off sand or snow, which intensifies exposure levels. Welding and tanning beds are other scenarios that can cause this problem. In short, it’s like sunburn, only it’s your sensitive eyes, not your skin, that suffer and it affects the eye’s cornea cells. Photokeratitis can take place even if you don’t experience sunburn on other parts of the body, because the eyes are such sensitive organs. They’re also very complex and therefore recovery can take longer than ordinary sunburn. This condition is also very painful since the cornea’s nerve endings are of the densest in your body. ### Treating Snow Blindness when Hiking In many cases, this snow blindness can improve within a few days — but you’ll need to stay out of the sun. This probably isn’t going to happen on multi-day winter hiking trips unless you get “lucky” and have cloudy days. You can also treat snow blindness with eye drops (though no one packs eye drops in their [hiking first aid kit](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-first-aid-kit-checklist/)!). However, too much sun exposure can result in serious consequences, including macular degeneration, loss of vision, or cancer.  In short, there’s no treating it. ## How to Prevent Snow Blindness when Hiking The best way to prevent snow blindness is to wear eye protection. For hiking in the snow below treeline, a pair of quality sunglasses should suffice. At higher altitudes, the air is colder and offers less UV protection. There’s also a lot of wind. So, goggles are the better option. No matter the type of eye gear you pick, check the specifications. You need lenses that will block UV rays and preferably only wear glasses or goggles that can block 99%+ of these rays. Also make sure that your pair blocks both UVA and UVB rays, although this is feature is standard in some countries these days. You can also protect your eyes with good habits. Stay hydrated and avoid looking at the snow as much as possible.  Also avoid using makeup (though I’m not sure who is wearing makeup on winter hikes…).  And, if your eyes are really sensitive, you might actually want to consider putting eye drops in your first aid kit. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/inuit-snow-sunglasses.jpg "inuit snow sunglasses - Mom Goes Camping")*Inuit people have long worn bone glasses like these to protect their eyes from the sun* ## How to Choose the Right Sunglasses for Winter Hiking Not all sunglasses are good for winter hiking.  Here’s what you need to look at to get the right pair. ### 1. Amount of Protection Sunglasses are categorized by “visible light transmission,” or VLT. You’ll also sometimes hear this referred to as “degree of light absorption.” For hiking in winter in snow conditions you should have Category 4 sunglasses. They’ll absorb much more than your average sunglasses, giving you the necessary protection from the sun’s glare. - **Category 0:** The VLT is 80% to 100%, so these don’t offer much protection and the tint is non-existent or very light. - **Category 1:** With a light tint it offers 43% – 80% VLT. You can use them for eye protection in low light conditions late in the day or during active sports. - **Category 2:** Thanks to a medium tint you get 18% – 43% VLT. They’re sufficient for hiking, even in the mountains as long as it’s not at a very high altitude. - **Category 3:** A dark tint results in 8% – 18% VLT. They will help even at high altitude, but not if there’s snow. - **Category 4:** The very dark tint enables 3% – 8% VLT. This high rate of light absorption gives the necessary protection you need when spending time in the snow and dealing with intense glare. They’re also appropriate and often necessary when on the water, since UV rays can reflect off the water. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/winter-sunglasses.jpg "Tour skier taking selfie - Mom Goes Camping")*These sunglasses offer great protection from UV light* ### 2. Polarization Polarizing filters specifically help reduce glare. Therefore, [wearing sunglasses with polarized lenses](https://www.eyebuydirect.com/sunglasses/polarized) will result in much less eye strain and less chance of snow blindness. Your eyes will also feel much more relaxed while you hike. Alternatively, you can opt for a mirror coating. This is a different way to reduce the effects of the glare if your sunglasses don’t have polarizing features. ### 3. Oleophobic Coating Other helpful features result in easier sunglass maintenance. A popular option is an oleophobic coat that makes for easier cleaning even if there’s grease or dust on your sunglasses. ### 4. Anti-Fog Coating If you want to prevent constant cleaning because of fogging, which is common in certain winter conditions, an anti-fog coat is a wise investment. ### 5. Lens Color The best color for your lenses depends on the activities you plan in the snowy environment. Grey and black lenses are versatile and always a good investment for most hikers. However, if you plan on skiing as well as hiking, yellow lenses are worthwhile since they help you identify details in the snow. ### 6. Frame The sunglasses should be large enough to protect from all angles. You must also have good visibility in your normal field of view, so they’re comfortable to wear and practical to use when out and about. Avoid metal frames. The metal will feel really cold on your face.  Plastic frames are the way to go for hiking in really low temperatures. --- Author Bio: Isabelle Marinier is an associate editor at [EyeBuyDirect](https://www.eyebuydirect.com/), an online retailer of affordable and high-quality eyewear. She is a lifelong learner who is always eager to try new things. Isabelle combines her skills and experience to transform lifestyle, fashion, and travel ideals into practical reality and relevant information. Image credit: [Inuit snow goggles](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Inuit_snow_goggles.jpg), by [Julian Idrobo](https://www.flickr.com/people/85516068@N00), [Creative Commons](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Creative_Commons "w:en:Creative Commons") [Attribution-Share Alike 2.0 Generic](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/deed.en) license ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking **Tags:** snow, winter --- ### [Tips for Staying Dry Backpacking in Wet Winter Conditions](https://momgoescamping.com/stay-dry-backpacking-wet-winter/) **Published:** November 9, 2024 **Author:** Diane **Content:** While there is a learning curve, [camping in *snow*](https://momgoescamping.com/winter-camping-snow-tips/) isn’t that difficult so long as you have proper warm gear. The same can’t be said for *wet* conditions though. The moment you get wet, your body starts to lose heat because of evaporative cooling. To make things worse, some gear loses its insulating properties when wet. So, it is crucial that you and your gear stay dry when camping in wet winter conditions. Here’s how. ## Forget About Down Insulating materials work because they have pockets of air. Air has low thermal conductivity, meaning heat can’t pass through it easily. The more pockets of air, the more the heat is trapped.  This is why down is such a good insulator: There are lots of air pockets in between the fluffy feathers, making it one of the best materials for cold weather. However, the moment down gets wet, the feathers start to clump together.  All of those air pockets get compressed, so down loses its insulating properties. By contrast, wool and (to a lesser extent) most synthetics don’t compress as much when wet, so they can still insulate even when wet. So, while I normally love wearing my down jacket as my mid layer, I opt for my wool hoodie instead when the conditions are wet or sleeting. Yes, the wool is 5x heavier and much bulkier than the down jacket, but I don’t have to stress about it getting wet. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/backpacking-clothes-setup-for-winter-wet-conditions.jpg "backpacking clothes setup for winter wet conditions - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/backpacking-clothes-setup-for-winter-wet-conditions.jpg)*My wet winter three layer setup The wool hoodie is THICK Its heavy but worth it In dry conditions I wear a down jacket instead* ## Line Your Pack The waterproof cover that comes with your pack isn’t exactly reliable when it comes to keeping things dry. And you absolutely need your sleeping bag to be dry if you stand a chance of staying warm at night. A simple 10 cent solution is to line your pack with a trash bag.  You’ll still want to use your pack cover, since it will keep your pack from getting saturated and heavy. ## Have a Strict “Wet/Dry” Routine Have one set of items which will be exposed to the elements. These are your “wet” items . Your “dry” items don’t come into contact with the elements, such as your pajamas and sleeping bag. You’ll need lots of plastic bags or a dry bag to keep wet and dry items separate in your pack. Wet items need to always be completely sealed and separated from your dry items. You also need to be strict about taking off your wet items in a way that they don’t come in contact with your dry ones. Consider packing an extra towel to dry yourself off before changing into your dry clothes. Note I say “extra” because you don’t want to dry your body with the same towel you use to wipe condensation from the tent. ## Protect Against Condensation Tent condensation is a big problem when camping in winter. Even if your tent has good ventilation, it’s almost impossible to [avoid condensation](https://momgoescamping.com/tent-condensation/).  If your sleeping bag touches the sides of the tents, it will end up wet—and you’ll end up freezing. I switch to a larger tent in winter for this reason. I’m short, so I don’t have to worry about the bottom of my sleeping bag touching the tent. However, my backpacking partner is taller, so he sleeps with his feet inside a trash bag so his sleeping bag doesn’t end up wet. ## Consider a Tarp + Tent Summer rains usually pass by quickly. So, even if it’s raining when you reach camp, you can just wait to set up camp. But winter rains and sleet can last hours, leaving you no choice but to set up camp in the rain—potentially causing the entire interior of your tent to get wet. There are some solutions for [setting up a tent in the rain so the inside doesn’t get wet](https://momgoescamping.com/pitch-tent-in-rain-inside-doesnt-get-wet/). Like using the “fly first” method with some tents (which admittedly takes a lot of practice to do).  The easiest solution is to just bring a tarp. Pitch the tarp, and then pitch your tent underneath it. Yes, it’s one more thing to pack and carry, but you will likely appreciate having a dry area in front of your tent for cooking dinner too. Alternatively, just use a tarp shelter. Then you won’t have to worry about condensation either. See some [tarp shelter setups](https://momgoescamping.com/tarp-shelters/) here. ## Don’t Breathe Into Your Sleeping Bag As tempting as it is to put your face into your sleeping bag, don’t do it. Your breath contains a lot of moisture (approximately 15-25ml is released per hour during sleep!). It will introduce moisture into your sleeping bag, causing your sleeping setup to get wet, and you to get cold. ## Go Hardcore with the Waterproof Gear Water-resistant gear is okay in winter when the you’ve got really thick wool layers underneath. But if the sleet and rain will be constant, it’s better to go with hard shells that are truly waterproof. You’ll want a waterproof shell jacket, pants, overmitts, and gaiters. If you don’t want to spring for expensive shell mitts (they are expensive!), bread bags over your fleece or wool gloves will work. ## SLOW DOWN Waterproof shell layers are pointless if you are just going to get wet from sweat. Yes, good wicking base layers can help here, but the most important thing you can do is slow down. The moment you feel yourself starting to sweat, slow your pace or take a short break (ideally to eat some chocolate or other high-calorie food). --- Image credit:”[IMG\_2743](https://www.flickr.com/photos/euphro/9562169681/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [euphro](https://www.flickr.com/people/euphro/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Backpacking **Tags:** winter --- ### [Pro Tips for Sharpening Your Outdoor Knife Perfectly Every Time](https://momgoescamping.com/knife-sharpening-tips/) **Published:** March 15, 2017 **Author:** Diane **Content:** The first time I tried to sharpen a knife, I ended up with a really screwed-up edge and had to have a pro help me fix the blade… Make no mistake: *sharpening a knife requires skill!* Good thing that it was just a crappy, generic knife.  I didn’t mind that it got messed up.  But now I’ve started buying better-quality knives that I can actually use outdoors (see these [Top Outdoor Knives for Under $70](https://momgoescamping.com/best-first-knives-kids/)). I don’t want my precious blades messed up!  So, I’ve compiled some pro tips for sharpening knives.  These tips apply for all types of knives and blades.  Happy sharpening! ## Know Your Blade Angle The most important part of sharpening a knife correctly is getting the angle right.  To get the angle right, you’ve first got to know your angle! You can look on the manufacturer’s page to find this info.  Or, if you really can’t find it, Sharpening Supplies [recommends](https://www.sharpeningsupplies.com/Tips-for-Selecting-the-Right-Bevel-Angle-W44.aspx) these guidelines: - **Hunting Knives, Pocket Knives, and Survival Knives:** 25 to 30 degrees - **Smaller Knives such as Boning Knives:** 18 to 25 degrees - **Machetes:** 30 to 35 degrees - **Razors and X-Acto Knives:** 12-18 degrees ## Start with a Whetstone There are a lot of different types of sharpening stones out there.  While ceramic and diamond stones might be superior to whetstones in a lot of ways, it is still best to go with a whetstone – especially if you are just learning to sharpen. As Survival Sullivan points out [here](http://www.survivalsullivan.com/how-to-sharpen-your-survival-knife/), diamond and ceramic sharpeners remove more material quickly.  So, you’ve got to have a very steady hand and keep the angle perfect while using them. By comparison, whetstones are much more forgiving. An important thing to note is that *you should never use a power-driven grinding wheel to sharpen your outdoor knife*. While this may be alright for some kitchen knives, a grinding wheel will burn the temper off your blade! ## Prep Your Stone before Sharpening How exactly do you prep a whetstone? 1. **Clean the stone:** All the shavings and oil on the stone can cause it to get dirty quickly. So clean it before you use it.  Put it under some water and scrub it with an old toothbrush for a few minutes. 2. **Wet the stone:** It is called a whetstone for a reason. You must soak the whetstone in water before using it for approximately 5 minutes. 3. **Stabilize the stone:** Put a towel under the whetstone so it won’t slide around while you sharpen. Pros often make a holder for their whetstones, as shown in the picture. 4. **Add oil:** You’ve got to put a bit of oil on a whetstone. This will help carry the shavings away from the stone, prevents friction and heat (which could warp the blade), and prevents the pores of the stone from getting clogged with shavings. Less than a teaspoon should suffice!  Mineral oil is the most commonly-recommended oil for a whetstone because it is food-safe. ![whetstone with vice](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/stabilized-whetstone.jpg "stabilized whetstone - Mom Goes Camping")This whetstone has its own custom vice to keep it stabilized during sharpening ## Use the Sharpie Trick According to [Buck Knives](https://www.buckknives.com/about-knives/knife-sharpening/), it was Al Buck who came up with this trick – and it is probably the best knife sharpening tip you’ll probably ever hear is this. You simply draw a black line over the knife bevel with a sharpie or permanent marker. Then take a couple strokes with the knife over the stone.  If you’ve maintained the proper sharpening angle, then all of the sharpie should be gone.  If you haven’t maintained the angle, then you’ll still see black on the bevel. - If there is still black on the bottom edge of the knife but the top is clean, then you are laying the knife too flat and need to increase the angle. - If there is still black on the top edge of the knife but the bottom is clean, then you are holding the knife too high and need to lower the angle. ## Start with the Right Grit You might think that you always need to start with the coarser grit and work your way to the finer grit on the knife.  But this isn’t always the case.  [Wilderness Today](http://www.wildernesstoday.com/how-to-sharpen-a-blade-hunting-survival-knife/) gives this advice: - Knives with soft blades wear down faster. For these, start with a coarse grit and progress to a finer grit. But leave the edge rough since it wears down so quickly.  You probably don’t even need to use your finest grit! - Knives with harder blades, such as a [Damascus knife](https://damascusknivesmaker.com/), don’t wear down so fast. For these, start with a medium or fine grit. ![This knife blade is soft and very damaged, so it will need a coarser grit.](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/knicked-knife.jpg "knicked knife - Mom Goes Camping")This knife blade is soft and very damaged so it will need a coarser grit ## Know When to Switch to Finer Stone If you are starting with a coarser grit, you run the risk of over-sharpening your knife and taking away too much material. How do you know when it is time to progress to a finer grit? The key is in the burr. As you sharpen one side, some material will build up on the edge of the knife.  This is called a “burr” and is fairly easy to see while you use a coarse grit.  The burr is harder to see once you’ve gotten to the finer grit, which is why some pros even wear magnifying glasses while sharpening! Even if you can’t see the burr, you can still feel it.  Never run your finger along the edge of the knife – you will cut yourself! But you can run your finger from the spine to the edge to feel the burr. As you switch sides while sharpening, you should feel the burr switch from side-to-side.  When you can see/feel this, it means it is time to move to a finer stone. \*\*\*Remember not to switch sides after each stroke.  This will make it hard for the edge to build up a burr.  Instead, use at least 5 strokes per side before switching. ## Count Strokes There is a lot of conflicting advice about how many strokes should be used per side before switching.  In general, the experts say that you should use *at least* 5 strokes per side.  If the knife is really dull, you may need upwards of 10 to 15 strokes before switching sides. But the experts do agree on one thing: *you must use the same number of strokes per side!* This ensures that you are taking away the same amount of material on each side.  So count the strokes so you don’t accidentally do too many strokes on one side. ## Sharpen Your Knives *Before* They Get Dull The more dull your knives are, the harder they will be too sharpen (not to mention that using a dull knife is dangerous!).  So sharpen your knives often! Remember, if you are using an assisted opening knife, it needs to be clean before you store it or it will get dull very quickly. ## Get the Sharpening Motion Right Use your dominant hand to hold the knife by its handle and place your other hand over the face of the blade (keeping your fingers away from the edge!). Now you need to firmly apply pressure to the knife as you push or drag it along the whetstone in an arching motion.  The arch shape ensures you get the entire blade to the stone.  [Gizmodo recommends](http://gizmodo.com/5909950/how-to-sharpen-a-knife-like-a-bad-ass-boy-scout) imagining that you are trying to shave a very fine layer of stone from the top and move the knife as if it is slicing meat. If you find that you are having trouble keeping a consistent angle, [Buck Knives recommends](https://www.buckknives.com/about-knives/knife-sharpening/) using circular motions for sharpening. - With the edge facing right, keep the edge on the surface of the stone and use clockwise motions (count them!). - Turn the blade over for the edge is facing ledge. Now use the same number of counterclockwise motions. - Repeat until you get the desired sharpness. \*Remember that you should hold the knife *firmly* but do not apply too much pressure! As [Gear Junkie says](https://gearjunkie.com/knives/how-to-sharpen-a-knife-work-sharp-tips), “let the stone do the work.” ## Get a Sharpening Guide ![knife sharpening guide](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/dmt-guide-1024x799.jpg "dmt guide - Mom Goes Camping") It takes a lot of practice to consistently get the angle right for sharpening a knife.  Instead of torturing yourself, get a sharpening guide.  There is no shame in using one of these (especially since you’ll have the most precisely sharpened knives of anyone you know). To use a sharpening guide, you simply clamp your knife into it and set the angle.  Then you glide the knife across the stone.  It is a bit annoying that you have to reclamp the knife when you switch sides, but it is less annoying than struggling to get a perfect angle. 🙂 A good option is the [DMT sharpening guide](http://amzn.to/2mnW8Zx). It’s a lot cheaper than taking your knives to a pro for sharpening. ![DMT knife sharpening guide](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/dmt-guide-2.jpg "dmt guide 2 - Mom Goes Camping") **What knife sharpening tips can you add? Let us know in the comments?** --- Image credits:”[sharpening](https://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelpollak/7248727816/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [michael pollak](https://www.flickr.com/people/michaelpollak/)“[Sharpening with a Whetstone](https://www.flickr.com/photos/dinnerseries/17181374590/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Didriks](https://www.flickr.com/people/dinnerseries/)“collection” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by scottfeldstein ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** knives --- ### [Nutrition for Backpacking and Thru-Hiking: Beyond Calorie Density](https://momgoescamping.com/nutrition-backpacking-thru-hiking/) **Published:** January 11, 2019 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I’m a bit of a nutrition fanatic – and for a good reason.  When I eat crappy food, I feel like crap.  So, I simply can’t get on board with backpackers who eat Fritos (one of the [most calorie-dense backpacking foods](https://momgoescamping.com/calorie-dense-healthy-backpacking-foods/)) for lunch on the trail.  Backpacking nutrition matters – and there is a lot more to nutrition than just calories! I don’t think that backpackers need to obsess too much about nutrition though.  If there is ever a time that it’s “okay” to eat junk food, it is while you are trekking for hours with a heavy pack on your back!  But, **if you want to have *more energy, less inflammation, fewer muscle cramps, and recover faster,* you should at least know the basics of backpacking nutrition.** **Jump To:** 1. [Calories](#calories) 2. [Macronutrients](#macronutrients) - [Carbohydrates](#carbohydrates) - [Fats](#fats) - [Proteins](#proteins) - [Ratio of Carbs:Fats:Protein](#ratio) 3. [Junk Food and the Snickers Diet](#junk) 4. [Micronutrients](#micronutrients) - [Digestive enzyme loss](#digestive) - [Nutrient loss in backpacking food](#nutrientloss) - [Solutions for getting micronutrients on the trail](#solutions) 5. [When to Eat](#whentoeat) **\*Guess what? I wrote a book.  It’s got over 50 healthy backpacking recipes plus ton of info on how to plan backpacking meals.  [Learn more here](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/).** ![dehydrator backpacking recipes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/book-with-tablet.png "book with tablet - Mom Goes Camping") \[sta\_anchor id=”calories” /\] ## 1. Calories A calorie is a unit of measurement. Technically, a calorie is the amount of energy needed to raise 1 gram of water by 1 degree Celsius. However, we generally refer to calories as a way to say how much energy a food contains. **Macronutrients (carbs, fats, and proteins) each provide calories:** - **Carbs: 4 calories per gram** - **Fats: 9 calories per gram** - **Proteins: 4 calories per gram** Because fats have the most calories per gram, they are considered the most calorie-dense foods.  Those Fritos which have so many calories? It’s because they are loaded with corn oil. **\*Not sure how many calories you need while backpacking? Use [this calculator](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-food-calorie-calculator/).** ![fritos for backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/fritos.jpg "fritos - Mom Goes Camping")*Fritos are high calorie but not necessarily a good backpacking food* \[sta\_anchor id=”problems” /\] ### Problems with Calorie Counts Calories in food are measured using something called a *bomb calorimeter.* Basically, a food is put into a chamber where it is surrounded by water.  The food is then ignited and the calorimeter measures how much the temperature of the water increases. The issue with these calories counts is that *our bodies don’t burn up food!*  The last I checked, I didn’t have a literal furnace inside my stomach! Many of the foods we eat end up not getting absorbed at all (in other words, they just get pooped out – see the section on nuts below). In addition to this, our bodies burn certain types of calories differently – like how we blow through calories from refined sugars quickly but get more sustained energy from complex carbs.  This is why you can eat tons of calories from refined sugar but still end up feeling exhausted on the trail. ([1](https://www.businessinsider.com/calorie-counts-arent-accurate-2013-7)) ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/bomb-calorimeter-copy.jpg "bomb calorimeter copy - Mom Goes Camping")*This is what a bomb calorimeter looks like Obviously our digestive systems dont work this way Image credit [Lisdavid89](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Lisdavid89 "User:Lisdavid89") [Wiki](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bomb_Calorimeter_Diagram.png)* \[sta\_anchor id=”macronutrients” /\] ## 2. Macronutrients There are three main nutrients (called macronutrients because they are required by the body in large amounts).  These are carbohydrates, fats, and proteins. By contrast, micronutrients are the many types of vitamins and minerals that our bodies need.  Micronutrients are not only important for maintaining healthy body functions, but are critical to digesting micronutrients.  We’ll get into micronutrients a bit later. \[sta\_anchor id=”carbohydrates” /\] ### Carbohydrates ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/pinto-bean-sauce-on-pasta.jpg "pinto bean sauce on pasta - Mom Goes Camping") When we eat carbohydrates (such as pasta, rice, or candies), our bodies convert them into glucose – a form of sugar that the body uses for energy. Because there is only so much sugar that can be in your blood at once; any extra glucose gets turned into glycogen. Glycogen gets stored in the liver and muscles.  If you want to avoid hitting a wall and muscle wasting, you need to have adequate amounts of glycogen in both your liver and muscles. #### Glycogen in the Liver Some glycogen gets stored in the liver.  This glycogen can be turned back into glucose to use as fuel.  It is a great source of energy. During moderate-intensity exercises (like backpacking), about 55-60% of energy comes from glycogen. When doing high-intensity exercises (like running a marathon), over 85% of energy can come from glycogen. ([2](https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/neuroscience/glycogen)) The liver can only store about 90-110 grams of glycogen, which is the equivalent of 3-4 hours of normal activity. When you run out of glucose and glycogen, the body will turn to fat for fuel.  This how low-carb diets work: by forcing your body to burn fat. What happens if your body also runs out of fat? The body will start to digest proteins for energy.  That often means breaking down your muscle tissue – which is why thru-hikers can end up with their muscles wasting away! This is why carbs are so important for backpacking.  You need to eat enough carbs to give your body immediate energy (in the form of glucose) *and* that you have extra glucose in your blood so it turns into glycogen in your liver. Don’t eat enough carbs and you will bonk, or “hit a wall”! Continue to deprive yourself of carbs and your muscles will start wasting away. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/hitting-a-wall.jpg "hitting a wall - Mom Goes Camping")*This is what hitting a wall looks like Image credit[Feeling Tired](https://www.flickr.com/photos/redketchup/1326868950/) [CC BY NC ND 20](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/) by [Matt Crest](https://www.flickr.com/people/redketchup/)* #### Glycogen in the Muscles Liver glycogen is important, but most of the glycogen gets stored in the muscles.  This glycogen can’t be turned back into glucose; it is what your muscles use for fuel. Exercising will cause glycogen to be depleted from your muscles fairly quickly. Numerous studies have shown that reduced-carb diets lead to poor performance, fatigue, and everything else that backpackers consider “hitting a wall.” It is really important that you eat some carbs *after* you finish hiking for the day.  Since you will be inactive during this time, the carbs don’t get used up right away and can be turned into glycogen to replenish your muscles. #### How Many Carbohydrates? For endurance athletes, it is generally recommended that you consume 4-5 grams of carbs per pound of body weight. For a 150lb man, for example, that would mean about 675 carbs – or 2700 calories from carbs. During more intense exercise—such as when hiking up a difficult slope — you might need about 90 grams of carbs per hour. ([5](https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/mohr114.htm), [6](https://runnersconnect.net/cience-of-bonking-and-glycogen-depletion/), [7](https://www.muscleforlife.com/glycogen/)) **In recap:** - **Carbohydrates get converted into glucose to be used as energy** - **Excess glucose gets turned into glycogen, which is stored in the liver and muscles** - **When glucose and liver glycogen run out, the body uses fat for fuel. Then it turns to protein – including muscle tissue – for fuel** - **When glycogen in muscles runs out, you will hit a wall!** - **You need to eat carbs *while hiking* and when you *finish hiking* to keep glycogen stores full.** \[sta\_anchor id=”fats” /\] ### Fats ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/coconut-soup.jpg "coconut soup - Mom Goes Camping")*This dehydrator corn chowder is made with coconut milk so it is loaded with fat  Get the recipe in [my eBook](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/)* Fats contain 9 calories per gram compared to just 4 calories/gram with carbs.  This makes them incredibly calorie dense and a good source of energy. When we eat fat, it is broken down into fatty acids.  These can be transported to the muscles to use as fuel.  The muscles still prefer to use glycogen for fuel.  However, when there isn’t’ enough glycogen, muscles can go off of fat. This is why some thru-hikers justify packing lots of fatty foods.  They say that the body can be “trained” to burn more fat for fuel instead of carbs.  However, there isn’t any research (that I’m aware of) which actually backs this up. It can be tempting to take a lot of fatty foods backpacking because of how calorie-dense they are. However, this would be a mistake. **Some issues with relying on fat for energy are:** - It takes a long time to break down fat (up to 6 hours). - Once your breaks down the fat, it takes even more time to get to your muscles. - The body requires oxygen to break down fat. This means the body has trouble breaking down fat during intense exercise (because your body is using more oxygen) and at higher altitudes. This is why it is a bad idea to eat very fatty foods *while* backpacking.  You could end up with stomach aches, nausea, or diarrhea.  You should eat your fatty foods *long before* or *after* you hit the trail.  ([8](https://www.verywellfit.com/sports-nutrition-how-fat-provides-energy-for-exercise-3120664)) Research done by the military backs this up.  One military study found that, “It seems a matter of indifference to the muscles whether they receive their energy from carbohydrate or from fat.”  However, muscular work is done with less effort when there is a plentiful supply of carbohydrates. In particular, the studies have found that load-bearing work (much like hiking with a heavy pack!) are perceived as more difficult when there’s a carb deficiency. Thus, the military has recommended that soldiers on deployment get more carbohydrates in their rations. **In summary:** You need to balance carbs and fats! Be careful not to overly-emphasize one or the other. Avoid consuming too many fats while hiking – especially during very strenuous parts of the hike.  Consume them long before you hit the trail or when you’re done hiking for the day.  ([9](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3248697/)) \[sta\_anchor id=”protein” /\] ### Protein ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/dehydrated-beans.jpg "dehydrated beans - Mom Goes Camping")*Dehydrated beans to go into backpacking meals* Protein is the building block of our muscles.  It also has many other roles (which often get overlooked), such as regulating hormones, immune function, and enzyme reactions.  When you run out of energy from carbs and fats (which hopefully won’t happen!), proteins can also be used for fuel. Your body absolutely needs protein to help heal muscles.  Backpacking causes a lot of strain on muscles and you will want to speed up healing – especially on longer backpacking trips. Most backpacking meals – at least the freeze-dried meals by major brands – are lacking in protein.  The Beef Stew made Mountain House has 13g of protein and their Pad Thai (vegan) has 20g of protein.  The Chicken Vindaloo by Backpacker’s Bistro also has 13g of protein per serving (though just 290 calories so you’ll probably be eating 2 servings). As a general rule, you need 0.8-1 gram of protein for each kilo of body weight. If you are doing high-intensity hiking, you might need up to 1.5g/kg. For a small women like myself, that means about 50 grams of protein per day. For a large man, it means about 80 grams of protein. ([10](https://gourmethiking.com/blog-post/protein-backpacking/), [11](https://andrewskurka.com/2015/backpacking-food-amounts-types-nutrition-storage-sd-live/), [12](https://backpackers.com/guest-post-primer-thru-hiking-nutrition/)). You can use this [protein intake calculator](https://barbend.com/protein-intake-calculator/) to get an idea of how much protein you need per day.  Choose the “maintence” as your goal and “intense” for activity level. **\*See a [list of the best backpacking meal brands](https://momgoescamping.com/best-backpacking-meals/) here.** **Note about Complete Proteins:** Proteins are made up of amino acids.  There are 20 different types of amino acids that our bodies can only get from food. These are called *essential amino acids*. A complete protein is one which contains all 20 essential amino acids. As a vegan, I’ve been warned that my proteins are “not complete” – meaning that they are lacking at least one of these 20 amino acids. Yes, it is true that most plant-based foods are not complete (quinoa, hemp, and soy are some exceptions).  But there is no rule that you need to eat all the amino acids in the same sitting.  The amino acid lacking in one protein is likely to be found in another protein. So long as you eat a variety of protein sources throughout the day, you will be able to get all the amino acids you need.   If you are really worried about amino acids though, incorporate hemp protein powder or other complete protein powders into your meals. \***See a [list of vegan freeze-dried backpacking meals](https://momgoescamping.com/vegan-freeze-dried-meals/) here.** \[sta\_anchor id=”ratio” /\] ### Ratio of Macronutrients The key to fueling your body during a long backpacking trip (especially an intense thru-hiking trip) is to get the right balance of carbs, fats, and proteins. There is some conflicting advice about these ratios, but the recommendations generally fall under these ratios: - **Carbs: 35-50% of calories from carbs** - **Fats: 35-50% of calories from fats** - **Proteins: 15-20% of calories from proteins** Note that a military report recommends different recommendations for soldiers on deployment: 66% of calories from carbs, 21% from fat, and 12% from protein.  However, this is likely because the soldiers are doing higher-intensity activities and need more glycogen from carbs. ([13](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3013424/)) \[sta\_anchor id=”junk” /\] ## 3. Junk Food and the Snickers Diet ![snickers diet for backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/snickers.png "snickers - Mom Goes Camping") Brian Robinson has the record for completing the Triple Crown of Hiking (over 7,000 miles) in less than a year.  He consumed three Snickers bars a day while doing it. ([14](https://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/29/us/for-a-speed-hiker-three-trails-end-in-maine-and-a-record.html)) Robinson isn’t alone.  Many backpackers subsist on mostly candy cars during the day and maybe eat a hot dinner at night. Yes, junk foods are loaded with calories.  But, when planning your meals, it is important to know that these calories are from *simple carbs* and not from *complex carbs.* - **Simple carbs (such as refined sugar):** These get converted into glucose very quickly, giving your body an energy rush. - **Complex carbs (like whole grains):** These carbs take longer to convert into glucose, thus giving you more sustained energy instead of a spike. In one sense, eating a lot of refined carbs on the trail is a terrible idea.  As one backpacker [put it](https://www.backpacker.com/skills/nutrition-myths), > “Eating refined carbohydrates is like trying to keep a bonfire going all night with newspaper.” **This is what happens when you eat refined sugars:** - Your blood sugar spikes. - You quickly use up that energy. - Now your blood sugar drops very quickly. - Low blood sugar causes you to crash, leaving you tired, hungry, and grumpy. Because of this, it is much better to snack on complex carbs while hiking.  You won’t crash and burn. However, those refined sugars can be useful as a quick source of energy.  What’s important is that you don’t let your blood sugar crash while hiking.  So, you’ll need to *continuously* snack if you are eating refined sugars – maybe as often as every 10-15 minutes! I personally find that I eat much less when I consume complex carbs while hiking.  I can go longer between snacks.  Since the calories are being used efficiently, I can get away with bringing less food (and thus less weight in my pack). This goes back to what I said about the problems with calorie counts.  Our bodies don’t burn calories in a furnace and utilize every calories released from the food. Six teaspoons of refined sugar may have the same calories as one apple – but the apple is going to fuel me better and longer than if I guzzled sugar packets on the trail!  And a dehydrated apple doesn’t even weigh that much. 🙂 As far as Snickers go, they might actually be the “ideal” junk food for backpacpking.  That’s because they contain a great ratio of carbs to fat. The carbs refuel your muscles.  The fat gets burned as energy while hiking. **Important note:** Both protein and fiber slow down how quickly glucose gets into your blood stream.  So, if you eat your refined sugar with protein (like chocolate-covered nuts), then you won’t experience such a big spike-and-crash. \[sta\_anchor id=”micronutrients” /\] ## 4. Micronutrients If you are just going on a short backpacking trip, then you probably don’t need to worry about micronutrients in your meals. On longer trips though, lack of micronutrients could result in many problems like fatigue and muscle wasting.  These problems can occur even if you are getting enough calories. Dr. Brenda Braaten, one of the only experts on backpacking nutrition, blames this on digestive enzyme loss. \[sta\_anchor id=”digestive” /\] ### Digestive Enzyme Loss Digestive enzymes are what we use to break down food. Without digestive enzymes, food just goes through our bodies without any of the nutrients being released.  You could eat 6000 calories a day and still end up hungry and undernourished because the body isn’t getting nutrients from the food. What causes digestive enzyme loss?  Dr. Braaten blames the monotone diet that most thru-hikers have. After a while of eating the same foods, the body stops making digestive enzymes required for breaking down other types of foods.  For example, consuming too many carbs could cause the body to stop making enzymes needed to break down fat. \[sta\_anchor id=”nutrientloss” /\] ### Nutrient Loss in Backpacking Foods Another cause of fatigue and wasting on the trail is that the food simply doesn’t contain many nutrients. It isn’t that the foods didn’t ever contain nutrients.  Rather, certain nutrients (particularly vitamins like vitamin C, A, and B vitamins) are very sensitive to oxidation (air), light, and heat. It isn’t that the foods didn’t ever contain nutrients.  Rather, certain nutrients (particularly vitamins like vitamin C, A, and B vitamins) are very sensitive to oxidation (air), light, and heat. For example, fresh banana are rich in vitamin C and B6.  But these vitamins can be destroyed by heat during the dehydrating process.  Exposure to oxygen and heat on the trail can destroy what’s left of the vitamins.   Cooking will also destroy nutrients. How much nutrition is lost during dehydrating?  Many fruits can lose 6% of their vitamin A, 55% of thiamin, 10% of niacin, and 56% of vitamin C.   Dehydrating on a lower temperature can prevent vitamin loss. Why is this worrying? Micronutrients are important for functions like immunity and rebuilding tissues.  On top of that, micronutrients also help digest macronutrients. So, without micronutrients, your body won’t be able to release all of those calories you packed! **Here are some of the key micronutrients that backpackers should worry about:** - **Vitamin C:** Without enough vitamin C, thru-hikers can experience poor immunity, nose bleeds, and damage to connective tissue. Since vitamin C is important for repairing tissues, inadequate vitamin C can mean aching, swollen muscles. - **B Vitamins:** These are crucial for energy production and metabolism, as well as the nervous system. Don’t get enough B vitamins and you’ll feel sluggish and make poor decisions. - **Calcium:** Inadequate calcium may be the cause of cramps when hiking.  Luckily, minerals like calcium are mostly preserved during dehydrating.  You also don’t lose much calcium during cooking. - **Iron:** Your body needs extra iron while backpacking to keep up with increased oxygen demands. For women in particular iron deficiency can be a big problem.  Dehydrating and cooking don’t affect iron in food much.  This is why I add dehydrated kale (a great source of iron) to my meals. \[sta\_anchor id=”solutions” /\] ### Solutions for Getting Micronutrients: - **Add lots of dehydrated fruits and veggies to meals:** Dehydrating doesn’t affect minerals much, but it will reduce the amounts of vitamins in foods. However, some vitamins are better than no vitamins! So add lots of fruits and veggies to your meals instead of just focusing on carbs, proteins, and fats. - **Dehydrate at a lower temperature:** As a general rule, dehydrate fruits and veggies at no higher than 120F/50C. This will preserve more nutrients. - **Eat tons of salad whenever you get to town:** Instead of just eating a massive stack of pancakes when you come into town, order a salad. A BIG salad. Or just grab a bag of greens and some carrots in the local shop.  Then munch on them in the parking lot. 🙂 - **Forage:** This goes against “Leave No Trace.” However, in many areas where there isn’t much foot traffic, it is perfectly acceptable to forage foods.  I love adding fresh berries (a great source of vitamin C) to our morning oatmeal. Stinging nettles can also be found growing in abundance in many areas, which is very rich in iron, calcium, vitamin A, magnesium, and some B vitamins.  Just put your stuff sack over your hands while picking it so you don’t get stung! - **Bring a multi-vitamin:** Yes, this is absolutely worth the extra weight! You could also bring a quality superfood powder. ([15](https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/8b7a/73e1af372e53098ffeb8d37ef0b95a139ebf.pdf), [16](https://www.msrgear.com/blog/9019/), [17](https://dehydratorblog.com/does-dehydrating-food-remove-nutrients/#tab-con-5), [18](https://www.backpacker.com/skills/thru-hiking-nutrients-vitamins-and-minerals)) ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/foraged-berries.jpg "foraged berries - Mom Goes Camping")*Foraged berriees are a great source of vitamin C* \[sta\_anchor id=”when” /\] ## 5. When to Eat A lot of backpackers follow the same nutritional tactics that marathon racers use.  They carb load before hitting the trail.  Whenever they get into town, they also load up on carbs – often trying to eat what seems like a week’s worth of food in one sitting.   They think this will make up for the calorie deficiency they purposely brought on the trail in order to cut back weight. But backpacking is not like running a marathon! As talked about before, marathons are *high intensity* activities.  The body uses large amounts of glycogen (from carbs) for fuel. If you want to keep energy levels high while backpacking, you need to follow these rules: - **Snack constantly while hiking:** You need a steady stream of carbohydrates coming into your body. This will allow your blood sugar levels to remain high enough so you don’t deplete glycogen stores. - **Eat a meal within 30 minutes of going to bed:** You need a full meal after you’ve stopped hiking for the day. This meal will restock the glycogen stores so you have energy for the next day. - **Make sure this last meal has lots of protein:** This will help your muscles heal faster. - **Don’t eat too much fat for breakfast or while hiking:** It can take 6 hours for your body to turn fat into energy. Avoid eating too much fat before/during active times or your body will have trouble digesting it, causing you to feel nauseous. ([19](https://www.outsideonline.com/2240756/food-diaries-pct-thru-hiker), [20](https://www.msrgear.com/blog/nutrition-for-thru-hikers-part-1-food-for-fuel/)) ### **Want healthier backpacking food? Get my eBook.** The book contains over 50 healthy, lightweight, and calorie-dense recipes for backpacking.  Plus there is tons of info on planning backpacking meals.  Since you made it to the end of this post, I’ll even give you a discount. 🙂  **[Get my eBook here for 50% off](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmetasheck50off)!** [![dehydrator backpacking recipes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/book-with-tablet.png "book with tablet - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmetasheck50off) **What nutritious foods do you bring when backpacking? Let us know in the comments!** --- Title image credit: “[Trail Kitchen](https://www.flickr.com/photos/baronbrian/1738528848/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [BaronBrian](https://www.flickr.com/people/baronbrian/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Backpacking, Camping & Backpacking Food **Tags:** calorie density, food, meals, nutrition --- ### [DIY Camp Showers: 7 Designs](https://momgoescamping.com/diy-camp-showers/) **Published:** January 25, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** When wild camping or backpacking, I usually don’t bother with a shower.  I’m fine being stinky for a few days.  But sometimes it’s really nice to take a shower.  Like when it’s 95 degrees out or your stink has gotten so bad that flies are starting to swarm.  🙂 The problem is that most camp showers are just overpriced bags with a water hose attached.  They are made out of cheap materials which break easily. Yes, I once broke a gravity bag-type camp shower.  It slipped out of my hands while trying to tie it to a tree branch and popped open immediately when it hit the ground! There are better camp showers you can buy, such as cool pressurized ones which don’t have to be lifted overhead.  [This one](https://amzn.to/4uOQFwO) is pretty awesome.   Some, like [this one](https://amzn.to/4uI9nWO), even have built-in water heaters but are crazy expensive. If you don’t feel like paying for a camping shower, you can make one yourself.  The homemade camp shower designs below range from really simple handheld or gravity showers to more complex DIY pressurized showers. --- **Want this information (and more!)** **in printable format?** **Get my Camping Cheat Sheets!** [![camping cheat sheets](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/interior-pages-1024x356.jpg "interior pages - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets) The 42-page guide covers everything you need to know to enjoy the outdoors with confidence. [**Learn More Here**](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets) --- ## 1.  Handheld Camping Shower This is the simplest way to make a camp shower.  Just find a large, sturdy container with a lid.  Drill some holes into the lid to make a shower head.   See the picture below. ![handheld DIY camping shower](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/handheld-bottle-shower.jpg "handheld bottle shower - Mom Goes Camping") You can also use a sports cap lid for your shower head.  It doesn’t create a spray but you can adjust the flow and turn the flow on/off. **Tip:** Add a vent to your camp shower (see how it was done in the picture below).  This will prevent the pressure from cracking the bottle. ![handheld DIY camping shower with air vent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/handheld-bottle-shower-with-vent.jpg "handheld bottle shower with vent - Mom Goes Camping") --- ## 2. Gravity Fed Camp Shower Here’s another simple DIY camp shower.  For this one, you need a portable water storage tank like [this one](https://amzn.to/3J9xF7H).  Choose a tank which has these features: - **2 gallons in size:** If the water tank is smaller, you won’t get enough pressure.  If the tank is larger, you won’t be able to lift it easily. - **Spigot:** Ideally, the spigot will have adjustable flow - **Air vent:** This is must-have. Otherwise the pressure change will crack the tank as its empties. To make the gravity shower, you’ll just need to add a shower head to the spigot.  The camp shower in the picture used a garden watering can head.  Just glue-gun it onto the spigot. [![diy gravity camping shower](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/gravity-shower.jpg "gravity shower - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/gravity-shower.jpg) **Tips for Using the Gravity Shower:** - You’ll need rope to make a handle for hanging the shower. You can find good instructions on how to tie the handle [here](https://www.instructables.com/Camping-Shower-1/). - Remove the air vent plug. This will turn the shower on. - Once you re-plug the air vent, the water will continue to flow for about 30 seconds. --- ## 3. Dry Bag Camp Shower The problem with using water jugs for your camp shower is that they are bulky.  To save space, you can use a dry bag instead.  Because the dry bag is flexible, you don’t have to worry about air vents like you do with rigid containers.  If you don’t want to bother with the DIY shower, Sea to Summit makes a good one called the [Pocket Shower](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F758045%2Fsea-to-summit-pocket-shower). [![DIY camping shower from dry bag](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/dry-bag-shower.jpg "dry bag shower - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/dry-bag-shower.jpg) **You will need:** - Dry bag - Plastic bottle with screw threads - Two bottle caps - Epoxy **To make:** - Cut the screw threads off of a plastic bottle. Use sandpaper to smooth off any sharp edges. - Make holes in one of the bottle caps. Then use epoxy to glue an O-ring inside the cap. This is your shower head. - Glue an O-ring inside the other bottle cap. This one shouldn’t have holes.  It is your stopper. - Cut a hole in the dry bag. The hole should be on the side of the bag, about 1-2 inches from the bottom. Make the hole just large enough to let the screw threads poke through. - Put the screw threads *inside* the dry bag and push them through the hole you just made. - Use epoxy to secure the screw threads in place. **To use:** - Screw on the bottle cap without holes. - Fill the dry bag. Let it sit in the sun for a while if you want to heat the water. - Set the dry bag on its side (with the cap up). Now you can change the cap to the one with holes in it. - Hang the bag and start showering. You can use this same shower bag as a pump for your camping mattress.  Read the instructions [here](https://www.instructables.com/Dry-Bag-Pump-Sack-Camp-Shower/). --- ## 4. Garden Sprayer Pressurized Camp Shower If you have a garden sprayer which has never had chemicals in it before, you can use it as a camp shower.  You just need to create a shower head for it. ![easy garden hose sprayer camp shower](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/easy-garden-hose-sprayer-shower.jpg "easy garden hose sprayer shower - Mom Goes Camping") **To create the shower head:** - Get a small plastic bottle with a screw lid - Cut the bottle in two places to remove the middle section. Throw away the middle section. - Insert the bottom part of the bottle into the top part. Wrap electrical tape around them to keep in place and prevent leaks. - Use a scalpel to poke holes in the bottom part. - Cut a wine cork in half. Make a groove down the middle of each side. The groove needs to be big enough so you can insert the pressure sprayer into it. - Put the pressure sprayer end into the cork and insert it into the bottle cap. You might need to wrap some tape around it to secure it in place. Read the full instructions [here](https://www.instructables.com/KISS-Principle-Shower/). [![easy graden sprayer camp shower instructions](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/easy-graden-sprayer-shower-instructions.jpg "easy graden sprayer shower instructions - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/easy-graden-sprayer-shower-instructions.jpg) If you don’t want to bother with this, you can just buy a [garden sprayer which has a shower head attachment](https://amzn.to/4wwtc52). 🙂 ![CLICIC 1.3 Gallon Pressure Sprayer with 7 Spray Modes, Camping Shower with Removable Hose and Shower Head, for Camping Outdoor Traveling Hiking and Pet Bath, 5L, Red](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/415BAxZXIxL._SL500_.jpg) --- ## 5. Garden Sprayer with Garden Hose Nozzle This DIY camp shower is similar to the one above.  But, instead of using a plastic bottle for your shower head, you use a garden hose nozzle. Then you can use the on/off switch on the nozzle to get a proper shower. **To attach the garden hose nozzle:** - Remove the spraying wand from the sprayer - Attach a garden hose adapter to the nozzle - Insert the sprayer hose into the adapter - Use a hose clamp to secure the hose in place See the full instructions [here](https://www.instructables.com/Make-a-Portable-Camping-Shower/). [![garden hose spray camp shower](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/garden-hose-spray-camp-shower.jpg "garden hose spray camp shower - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/garden-hose-spray-camp-shower.jpg) A problem with this DIY shower is that most garden sprayers have narrow hoses.  You might not be able to get enough pressure for the garden hose nozzle to work properly.  To make it work, you may need to change the hose.  That means you’ll need a few more adapters.  In the picture above, the hose has been replaced. Read how to do that [here](https://www.instructables.com/Portable-Camping-and-Surfing-Shower/). --- ## 6. Roof Rack Camp Shower The brand Yakima sells a cool camp shower called the [RoadShower](https://amzn.to/4nvYIMG) which mounts onto the top of your car.  The thing is crazy expensive though.  It takes some work and a lot of tools, but you can make one yourself.   You’ll need to keep it pressurized with a bike pump. See the instructions [here](https://www.instructables.com/Roof-Rack-Shower-for-Outdoor-Activities/). [![car roof car camp shower materials needed](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/car-roof-car-camp-shower-materials-needed.jpg "car roof car camp shower materials needed - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/car-roof-car-camp-shower-materials-needed.jpg) ![car roof rack camping shower DIY](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/car-roof-car-camp-shower.jpg "car roof car camp shower - Mom Goes Camping") --- ## 7. Siphon Camp Shower This is one of the coolest DIY showers I’ve seen, but also the weirdest to operate.  It works on a siphon principle.  To start the siphon flow, you have to suck on a tube.  Because of the way it is designed, you don’t get any water in your mouth.  You can stop the water flow by hanging up the shower head. See the instructions [here](https://www.instructables.com/Affordable-Camp-Shower/). [![siphon DIY camp shower](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/siphon-camp-shower.jpg "siphon camp shower - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/siphon-camp-shower.jpg) [![using the siphon DIY camping shower](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/siphon-camp-shower-2.jpg "siphon camp shower 2 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/siphon-camp-shower-2.jpg) ## **DIY Camp Shower FAQ:** ### **How do you shower while camping with no facilities?** The simplest option is a handheld or gravity shower — a sturdy container or dry bag with a drilled shower-head lid that you hang and let flow. If you want more pressure without lifting water overhead, a garden-sprayer or siphon design works better. Match the build to your trip: dry bags pack small for backpacking, while roof-rack showers suit car camping. ### **How do you heat water for a camp shower?** The easiest way is solar. Fill a dark-colored bag or container and let it sit in direct sun for a couple of hours — a black dry bag heats fastest. Always test the water on your wrist before using it, since water left in the sun can get hotter than you’d expect. ### **How much water do you need?** About 2 gallons is the sweet spot for a gravity shower — enough pressure to rinse off, but still light enough to lift and hang. Most people can get a full rinse using less than a 5-gallon capacity, so don’t overfill. ### **What do you do with the grey water?** Use only biodegradable soap, and use as little as possible. Dump and scatter the used water at least 200 feet from any lake, stream, or water source so soap and food residue don’t pollute it. Never shower directly into or beside a water source. --- ###### Image Credits: [Affordable Camp Shower](https://www.instructables.com/Affordable-Camp-Shower/) by [work\_simple](https://www.instructables.com/member/work_simple/), <https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0> [Roof Rack Shower for Outdoor Activities](https://www.instructables.com/Roof-Rack-Shower-for-Outdoor-Activities/) By [Joshuat5](https://www.instructables.com/member/Joshuat5/), <https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/> [Make a Portable Camping Shower](https://www.instructables.com/Make-a-Portable-Camping-Shower/) by [Simple\_Life\_Hacks](https://www.instructables.com/member/Simple_Life_Hacks/), <https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/> [Portable Camping and Surfing Shower](https://www.instructables.com/Portable-Camping-and-Surfing-Shower/) by [AndrewW1977](https://www.instructables.com/member/AndrewW1977/), <https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/> [KISS Principle Shower](https://www.instructables.com/KISS-Principle-Shower/) by [antonius](https://www.instructables.com/member/antonius/), <https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/> [Bottle camping shower](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bottle_shower_3.jpg) by [Alan-Cottey-W-M](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Alan-Cottey-W-M), [Creative Commons](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Creative_Commons) [Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/deed.en) [Simple Handheld Camping Shower](https://www.instructables.com/Simple-Handheld-Camping-Shower/) by [daveulmer](https://www.instructables.com/member/daveulmer/), <https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/> [Camping Shower 1](https://www.instructables.com/Camping-Shower-1/) by [alliedmilk](https://www.instructables.com/member/alliedmilk/), <https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/> [Bottle shower](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bottle_shower_3.jpg) by [Alan-Cottey-W-M](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Alan-Cottey-W-M "User:Alan-Cottey-W-M"), [Creative Commons](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Creative_Commons "w:en:Creative Commons") [Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/deed.en) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** DIY --- ### [Leave No Trace and Kids: What's Allowed?](https://momgoescamping.com/leave-no-trace-kids/) **Published:** January 13, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** As an adult taking my children into the wilderness, it is my responsibility to make sure my kids follow the [principles of Leave No Trace](https://lnt.org/why/7-principles/).  But one of the things which doesn’t get talked about is how downright difficult it can be to follow Leave No Trace when you are with kids. Some aspects of Leave No Trace are pretty easy with kids: *Bring an extra trash bag to pack out all your trash.* *Keep campfires small and in existing fire rings.* *Be prepared to dig a cathole for human waste – even if you have to do it after the fact because little kids don’t exactly give you much warning before they have to poo…* But according to the LNT principles (and the rules of almost all National Parks), you can NOT do things like: - Pick flowers - Go off trails - Move rocks, such as to make rock cairns - Throw rocks - Climb trees - Build forts - Take mementos such as rocks - Catch or touch wild animals **My daughter has done ALL of these things at one point while we were in the wilderness.** **Does that mean I am a terrible person for not enforcing Leave No Trace?** This question is something I have been wrestling with. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/collecting-rocks-greece.jpg "collecting rocks - greece - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/collecting-rocks-greece.jpg)*This is not allowed in most National Parks* A quick internet search will tell me that my child could be causing irrevocable damage when she gathers rocks.  Or when she gathers wildflowers to press, which we then frame and hang in our home. And let’s not forget about the trauma to those poor newts and frogs we have fun catching and analyzing before releasing them back! As a rational-minded, educated person, I know that our actions in the wild have consequences. Yet, as a parent, I still can’t bring myself to outright prohibit these activities because we are supposed to “leave no trace.”  If I really didn’t want to leave any trace, then I would never go into nature at all. But the wilderness is when I truly see the best from my daughter.  Without electronic devices or toys to play with (which [limit creativity](https://www.garderiesunnyside.com/no-toys-faq/)), I watch as her inclination to explore fully comes to life.  She notices little things that I would have missed, asks thoughtful questions, and invents fun games (which, yes, sometimes involve throwing rocks). **Am I really supposed to stifle her inclination to explore because LNT says so???** Apparently, I’m not the only one who has been debating Leave No Trace and kids play. A 2014 article in Slate called “[Let Kids Run Wild in the Woods](https://slate.com/technology/2014/05/kid-play-zones-in-parks-leave-no-trace-inhibits-fun-and-bonding-with-nature.html)” makes the case that over-regulating kids’ play in nature creates adults who are ambivalent towards nature. The research backs this up: > **Most of the people who ended up dedicated to nature and conservation had childhoods filled with unstructured play in nature, some of which “was not environmentally sensitive by adult standards.”** As for collecting mementos from nature, I’ve broken LNT multiple times. Just like [this paleontologist](https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/jul/27/to-collect-or-not-to-collect-are-fossil-hunting-laws-hurting-science) talks about how picking up fossils as a kid sparked a “fascination in the natural world” that led him into his current career, I’ve let my daughter [take bones home for her collection](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-clean-animal-bones-hydrogen-peroxide/). She can’t decide whether she wants to be a vet or forensic paleontologist, but having those bones on her shelf certainly keeps her interested. [![rock bowling game camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/11-min.jpg "11-min - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/11-min.jpg)*An invented game that involves throwing rocks to knock off these lined up stones* **But the immediate goal of protecting natural areas should outweigh the social and educational benefits of letting kids play, right?** Don’t be so sure about this. In his job as a State Park Ranger, Matthew Browning was required to give little lectures to any kid he saw taking rocks, flowers, etc. The goal was to make the kids feel bad for their actions. But then Browning started to think about what would *really* happen if every kid took a flower. As he points out in the article, it would be really bad if every kid took delicate pink lady slippers.  But, if it were common yarrow, would it really be that bad? **So Browning started doing research in “nature play areas” in Scandinavia.  He found that, yes, kids are pretty destructive in nature.  But the impact wasn’t so bad that it ruined the eco-system.** Here’s where die-hard Leave No Trace advocates would say that even the tiniest actions can have a huge impact in fragile ecosystems.  Since some nature areas get *millions* of visitors yearly, each person taking just one flower could cause massive damage. But my counterargument is that we should *give kids some credit.*  Even at four years old, my daughter could understand that we could use dead sticks to make a fort but not break any tree limbs because it would “hurt the tree.”  She understood that we could catch insects but it would be cruel to take them home with us… And for the things which aren’t obvious to her, I’m there to explain things in terms she can understand. [![playing with insect Leave No Trace](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/picking-up-insects.jpg "picking up insects - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/picking-up-insects.jpg) ## How I Balance Leave No Trace with My Child’s Urge to Explore and Collect Even though it’s right there in the name, it took me a while to realize that Leave No Trace is a set of *principles* and not *rules.*  Unlike rules, principles are meant to guide us into doing what is right.  Principles aren’t set in stone and context is always important. Once you learn to think of LNT as principles instead of rules, you can see that there is still room for children’s play. There are two things I’ve done to help ensure I maintain Leave No Trace principles when with my kids. ### 1. Education Foremost, Leave No Trace is all about education. If I don’t know the how or why behind certain guidelines (such as why we [shouldn’t leave organic trash like apple peels in the woods](https://lnt.org/out-here-its-trash-apple-cores-orange-peels-and-other-natural-items/) or why [it’s okay for animals to poop in the woods but people still need to clean up dog poop](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-with-dog/)), then I won’t be able to explain these to my daughter. Likewise, if I’m not educated, I won’t be able to make judgment calls about certain activities: Unless I know which flowers are common and which ones are rare, then I shouldn’t let my daughter pick *any* flowers. I’ve definitely made a lot of mistakes over the years but I’m working to be better at leaving no trace. ### 2. Avoid Popular and Fragile Areas In general, I find it much easier to follow Leave No Trace with kids in areas where there aren’t any people (the 7th principle of LNT is “Be Considerate of Other Visitors” and I don’t want to shush my kid all day long while she plays!). In areas which aren’t fragile or don’t get many visitors, the “what if everyone picked a flower” line also doesn’t apply.  It literally is just my daughter picking a flower, which hardly constitutes as destroying an ecosystem. Does this mean that we don’t go to some gorgeous places, particularly those in National Parks? Yeah.  But, honestly, I don’t feel we are missing out on anything.  If I’ve learned anything from my daughter, it is this: You don’t need spectacular vistas to enjoy nature.  With a child’s mentality, you can see the awe and joy in something as simple as a pebble at your feet. And, yes, I let her take that pebble home. ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids --- ### [Travel First Aid Checklist: Everything You Need in a Compact Kit](https://momgoescamping.com/travel-first-aid-kit-list/) **Published:** January 25, 2017 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I love the spontaneity of travel and not knowing what you will encounter. But I do NOT love getting traveler’s diarrhea the day before I am supposed to take a 9-hour bus ride.  Or having my kid wake up at 3AM with a fever and having to rush through an unknown city trying to find an open phramacy, (and then remember how to say “fever” in the local language!). Yes, these things have happened to me. 🙂  So, I’ve learned from the experiences and now pack a very thorough travel first aid kit. I’m going to tell you exactly what is my travle first aid kit and give you some packing tips.  Hopefully this will help you if you are planning a trip too. ![My first aid kit, packed](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/travelers-first-aid-kit.jpg "travelers first aid kit - Mom Goes Camping")*My first aid kit packed*![How the first aid kit looks when packed](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/IMG_6206-1024x599.jpg "IMG_6206 - Mom Goes Camping")*How the first aid kit looks when packed* ## What to Pack in a Travel First Aid Kit I find it helpful to break first aid items into categories based on what could go wrong.  Then you can make sure you’ve got items to cover all of the categories. \*This picture shows my travel first aid kit for a 2 month long trip to Peru. We had to restock the band-aids and probiotics. For shorter trips, you’ll still need the same items – just probably not as many. ![travel first aid kit checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/travel-first-aid-kit-checklist-1024x683.jpg "travel first aid kit checklist - Mom Goes Camping") ### Injury Items and Wound Care 1. **Antiseptic gel for cuts** 2. **Balm for burns and damaged skin** 3. **Cotton and q-tips** 4. **Self-adhesive bandages** 5. **Alcohol and iodine cleansing prep pads:** Actually used these more for disinfecting toilet seats, not wounds!) 6. **Mini tubes of sodium chloride 0.9% saline solution:** Good for cleaning debris from eyes or irrigating wounds 7. **Sterile gauze pads in various sizes:** These are for more serious/larger wounds, so hopefully won’t need them. But if you do need them, then they are a must-have! 8. **Triangle bandage:** This is a multi-use item for larger wounds or making a sling 9. **Sterile roller bandages** 10. **Vinyl gloves:** Wear when cleaning serious wounds. 11. **Medical tape:** In addition to using it to attach gauze over a wound, we used a lot of it to hang Christmas decorations in our accommodation. 🙂 ### Meds 14. **Ibuprofen** 15. **Aspirin** 16. **Cold/flu medication** 17. **Itch cream for insect bites** 18. **Liquid Ibuprofen for children:** Important if you have little kids. ### GI Items 19. **Activated charcoal and anti-diarrhea medication** 20. **Probiotic capsules** 21. **Electrolytes:** These are for treating dehydration. Also good for hangovers 😀  They’re also called oral rehydration salts – [buy here](https://amzn.to/4hYyb6W)) ### Other Items 22. **Tweezers:** Used for removing splinters or thorns (got a bunch while eating prickly pears) and also for plucking my eyebrows 😉 23. **Two safety pins** 24. **Mini cold pack** 25. **Ace Bandage** 26. **Mini scissors** (not shown) ### Things Which I DIDN’T Pack but Wish I Did - **Berberine**: This is a natural antibiotic with many other medicinal uses. Also would have been nice to take while combating our food poisoning. You can [**buy berberine here**](http://amzn.to/2kthbfY). - **Aloe vera:** Where I live, I could only find this in a giant bottle, so I didn’t bring it. However, you can [**buy packets of aloe vera gel online**](http://amzn.to/2jeZzQc).   We needed this when my hubby got sun burnt.  I climbed into someone’s garden and stole a piece of a real aloe plant instead 😉 ## Tips for Building a Travel First Aid Kit When I go backpacking, I usually don’t bring this much stuff in my first aid kit.  But I’m really glad that I brought all of this.  It could have been devastating if I didn’t have that bottle of children’s Ibuprofen when Isabel got a temperature at 3am.  Since I don’t think there was even a 24 hour pharmacy in the town, we probably wouldn’t have ended up in the hospital! - **Keep It Organized:** As you can see from the pics, the first aid kit is pretty well organized. Each “type” of items are in a specific pocket.  The meds and small items are in plastic baggies.  This makes it easy to find things quickly – which might be crucial if you are dealing with a major injury. - **Think “Worst Case Scenario.”** Those sterile gauze pads and roller bandages? They are for serious wounds and injuries. I feel good knowing that I’ve got clean dressings to prevent infection until we get to the hospital. - **Learn How to Actually Use the Stuff:** If you don’t know how to use it, there is no point in having it in your first aid kit. - **Be Prepared for Traveler’s Diarrhea:** No, your stomach is not as tough as you think it is! After dealing with this in Albania last summer, I was prepared with anti-diarrhea meds, probiotics, and lots of electrolytes. - **Consider Traveler’s Health Insurance:** I had never gotten traveler’s health insurance before this trip. But, when going to the jungle where there are venomous snakes and crazy ants, you get insurance! Having insurance also made me more swift about going to the doctor when Isabel got sick. ## Pre-Made Travel First Aid Kits If you are looking for a pre-made travel first aid kit, be warned that most are really crappy. I once bought a cheap first aid kit online for $12.  The medical tape in it didn’t stick.  The scissors didn’t cut… I did end up using the bag though. 🙂 So, be prepared to pay a bit more for a quality pre-made first aid kit.  Even then you will still need to buy some of your own items like anti-itch creams and electrolytes.  With that in mind, make sure the pre-made kit you buy has some room for extra items! ### **Recommended First Aid Kits:** **1. Surviveware First Aid Kit** [![SurviveWare first aid kit](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Surviveware_Large_First_Aid_Kit.jpg "Surviveware_Large_First_Aid_Kit - Mom Goes Camping")](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CQ8JVC7/?tag=momcampnew-20) This is a good-quality first aid kit.  It is actually a larger kit meant for your car, vehicle, boat, or at home. I love how many organizational pockets it has.  However, it is really large and you definitely don’t want to lug this entire thing around while traveling! The reason I recommend the Surviveware kit is because it comes with a Mini First Aid kit. The main kit has 200 items.  The mini kit has an additional 50 items. You’ll still need to add a bunch of your own items (like meds for traveler’s diarrhea, etc.) but it has your basics covered. **[Get it here](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CQ8JVC7/?tag=momcampnew-20&ref_=maas_adg_82A9C0AAB5F3A5925015AF4E2030E4D4_afap_abs&tag=meastus-20&ref=mm_d3380136-534c-438a-b052-61968f54e587).** **2. Adventure Medical World Traveler First Aid Kit** This World Traveler Kit by Adventure Medical Kit (shown below) is one of the best pre-made travel first aid kits I’ve found.  It is a bit pricier but actually has most of the stuff you need, like stomach ailment medications.  You can [buy it here](https://amzn.to/4dSAk2D). ![world traveler medical kit](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/world-traveler-medical-kit-1024x1024.jpg "world traveler medical kit - Mom Goes Camping") **What’s in your traveler’s medical kit? Did I miss something? Let us know in the comments section below.** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety --- ### [List of Cheap Ultralight Backpacking Gear (11lbs Base Weight for Under $600)](https://momgoescamping.com/cheap-ultralight-backpacking-gear/) **Published:** May 29, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Ultralight backpackers have a reputation for being elitist snobs.  Why? Probably because so much of the ultralight style is based on gear.  And guess what? Most ultralight gear is EXPENSIVE. It’s hard not to think of someone as a snob when they can shell out $500+ for what’s essentially a fancy tarp (especially when those same people start criticizing you for carrying an affordable shelter which happens to be 6oz heavier…). But ultralight gear does not have to be expensive.  I’ve compiled a list of cheap ultralight gear that will get your base weight down to 11lbs or under without costing more than $600 total. **Note:** This is NOT meant to be a shopping list (that would be stupid: everyone has different gear requirements).  Rather, I want to show how UL backpacking can be done for cheap. ## Everything Can Be Bought Cheaper Secondhand Buying secondhand gear isn’t just cheaper, but also better for the environment.  A lot of major retailers even have secondhand areas now, like [REI’s Used Gear](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fused%2Fshop%2Fcamping-hiking) section. ## The Breakdown **Note about price and weight calculations:** Since there are multiple options in each category, the cost/weight in the table are based on the average of them.   If you choose the absolute *cheapest* items, the total gear cost is approximately $356.  If you choose the absolute *lightest* items on the list, you can easily get the total weight down to 135oz. \[table id=82 /\] ## List of Cheap Ultralight Gear ### Backpacks Unfortunately, there aren’t too many options when it comes to cheap ultralight backpacks.  The cheap ones simply can’t handle much abuse.  The ones listed below are all very affordable and still durable.   Since many UL packs don’t have covers, you can use a turkey-sized oven bag as a pack liner.  They cost about 50 cents and weigh almost nothing. **Top Budget Options:** - [Naturehike 40+5 UL Pack](https://amzn.to/3UMD7BA): 43.7oz - [3F QiDian](https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DC5iz6N): 30oz - [Granite Gear Crown 2](https://amzn.to/3MHApcs): 37.8oz **Also Read:** [Best Budget-Friendly Ultralight Backpacks](https://momgoescamping.com/best-budget-ultralight-backpacks/) --- ### Tents [![cloud up 2 tent back view](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/cloud-up-2-tent-back-view.jpg "cloud up 2 tent back view - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/cloud-up-2-tent-back-view.jpg)*Despite being so cheap my Cloudup tent has withstood 7 years of extensive use* If you are willing/able to use a [trekking pole tent](https://momgoescamping.com/best-trekking-pole-tents/), then the cost of an UL tent becomes even cheaper.   Likewise, you can also get the cost down a lot by switching to a [tarp setup](https://momgoescamping.com/tarp-shelters/).  Of course, there are other options too, like hammock camping.  I’m only going to include freestanding ultralight tents here though. **Top Budget Options:** - [Naturehike Cloudup 1P](https://amzn.to/3OFoqik): 52.8oz - [Naturehike Vik 1P](https://amzn.to/43wNYlT): 36.8oz - [Kelty Late Start 1P](https://amzn.to/43yk4gX): 60oz - [3F Floating Cloud 1:](https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DEjUcZf) 53oz **Also read:** [Best Cheap Ultralight Tents](https://momgoescamping.com/cheap-ultralight-tents/) --- ### Sleeping Pads Here’s where you can really save a lot of money and weight on your sleep setup.  But of course it can also mean you end up really uncomfortable.  When I was in my 20s, I didn’t mind sleeping on a thin foam pad.  Now that I’m older, I want something more comfortable.  I also became a colder sleeper in my late 30s, so need more R-value. **Top Budget Options:** - Foam sleeping pad: 8oz - [Sleepingo UL](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FP4Z3RZ/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07FP4Z3RZ&linkId=096ba10507c648b83e4430d374064b41) (air pad): 14.5oz - [Ryno Tuff](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FP4Z3RZ/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07FP4Z3RZ&linkId=096ba10507c648b83e4430d374064b41) (air pad): 14oz - [Therm-a-Rest Z Lite](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00453NA1E/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00453NA1E&linkId=e31d96a8656d36f9aa017c4fd6a5c406) (CCF): 14oz **Also Read:** [Best Budget-Friendly Ultralight Sleeping Pads](https://momgoescamping.com/best-cheap-ultralight-backpacking-pads/) --- ### Sleeping Bags If you are backpacking in warm weather, it’s easy to find a cheap ultralight sleeping bag.  But, assuming that it will probably get cold at some point, I’m only going to include sleeping bags rated to 32F (comfort rating around 45F). **Top Budget Options:** - [Marmot Trestles Elite Eco 30](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Marmot+Trestles+Elite+Eco+30&linkCode=sl2&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=44192ed2cfe7b7aa4c594ac5ec981bb4&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl): 30oz - Klymit KSB: 30oz - [Hyke and Byke Shavano](https://amzn.to/3OMyZ3i) 38oz **Also Read:** [Best Lightweight Sleeping Bags on a Budget](https://momgoescamping.com/best-lightweight-budget-sleeping-bags/) --- ### Stove and Fuel ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/cheap-ultralight-alcohol-stove.jpg "cheap ultralight alcohol stove - Mom Goes Camping") This one is trickier to calculate, especially since there’s a ton of [debate](https://adventuresinstoving.blogspot.com/2014/09/which-is-lighter-alcohol-or-gas_14.html) about whether an alcohol stove or gas stove is lighter in weight.  When it comes to *cost* though, an alcohol stove is the budget-friendly option.   It really doesn’t get cheaper than a DIY cat food stove.   But, if you prefer a gas canister stove (or there’s a burn ban so you can’t use an alcohol stove), the [BRS-3000T](https://amzn.to/3WyGWL8) is a good budget pick. Note: If you use the [cold-soak method for preparing meals](https://momgoescamping.com/cold-soak-backpacking-meals/), you don’t have to bring a pot at all. **Top Budget Options:** - DIY alcohol stove + bottle (1oz) and 4oz of fuel: 5.5oz - [BSR-3000T UL stove](https://amzn.to/43ddltb) + 100g gas canister: 7oz --- ### Cook Pot If cheap UL is your main goal, then aluminum is the way to go.  True, non-anodized aluminum gets bent very easily.  But my super cheap aluminum pots have survived dozens of trips (even with my not-at-all-careful kids).  A lot of backpackers use grease pots instead of a pot, which is essentially just an aluminum pot with a strainer lid. If you need something more durable, there are a few cheap titanium UL pots on Aliexpress.  But you will be limited to a really small size. **Best Budget Options:** - [Lixada Titanium Pot (0.8 quarts)](https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DCiuPUD): 7oz - [Stanco Grease Strainer (1 quart)](https://amzn.to/439nerJ) + Pot Lifter: 3.5oz + 1.5oz - [GSI Outdoors Anodized Aluminum Pot (0.625 quarts)](https://amzn.to/3MDtalM): 2.6oz - [IMUSA Aluminum Mug (0.7 quarts)](https://amzn.to/42bkgSe): 2.4oz - [Snow Peak Titanium Bowl (0.63 quarts)](https://amzn.to/3qeH6v9) + Pot Lifter: 1.9oz + 1.5oz --- ### Other Crucial Items: - **Utensil:** Even well-known brands have cheap UL utensils for about $2. Or just use a takeout plastic utensil. - **First Aid Kit:** Build your own. It will probably cost about $10 to $25 and you can easily get the weight down to 2oz. - **Headlamp:** A lot of people love the [Nitecore Thumb](https://amzn.to/3MxoyxL) as a headlamp since it weighs less than 1oz and is cheap.  On longer trips though, you’ll need a way to recharge it – which means adding an [UL power bank](https://momgoescamping.com/best-backpacking-power-banks/) to your weight and expenses. - **Water Treatment:** Long-term, you can’t really beat the [Sawyer Mini](https://amzn.to/3C2823U) for cost since the filter never needs to be replaced. Weight-wise, water treatment tablets are good for shorter trips. - **Water Bottle:** Recycled plastic water bottles instead of some fancy bottle - **Potty trowel:** You can use one of your tent stakes for this, which means zero extra carried weight or cost. - **Navigation:** A paper map is basically free and costs nothing. If you use this and a compass, then you don’t have to worry about your phone dying so (probably) no need to bring a power bank. - **Packed Clothing:** Almost all of my backpacking clothing comes from secondhand stores. I even scored a pair of $350 hiking pants for $10 once!  It’s really not hard to save money here. You can also easily get the weight down to 8oz (or less) by being smart about your layering system and letting socks dry while you hike. --- ## “I’m Too Poor to Buy Cheap Gear” (aka “buy once, cry once”) There’s a reason why lots of UL gear is so expensive: it has to be made out of good-quality materials to be light yet durable.  A lot of the cheap ultralight gear simply isn’t up to this same quality.  It won’t last as long, which means you have to buy new gear much faster. In the long run, it’s usually better to pay more for pricier gear which will last.  If you do want to buy cheap ultralight gear, make sure you only buy from tried-and-tested cheap brands.  Avoid no-name brands without real reviews. ## Know Where to Spend Your Money Never try to save money (or weight) on things that will make or break your trip.  For example, if you won’t want to sleep on a thin foam pad (not getting a good night’s sleep can definitely ruin your trip!), then be prepared to shell out the $$$ for an expensive UL pad. ## Also Know Where to Save Money There is some backpacking gear which really doesn’t matter as much.  For these items, you can get away with using cheap or even free items. For example, don’t pay for a fancy water bottle when a plastic bottle from your recycling bin will work just as well.  Also don’t pay for a fancy pack liner when you can use a turkey-sized oven bag which costs $0.50. **Note:** One of the easiest ways to save money on backpacking is to dehydrate your own meals.  Seriously, it’s stupid to pay $12 or more for packaged backpacking meals which are essentially just rice and beans anyway!   Read my guide to [dehydrating backpacking meals](https://momgoescamping.com/diy-dehydrated-backpacking-meals/).  Or check out [my book](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmetasheck) for even more advice and tons of UL recipes. 🙂 [![backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/backpacking-dehydrator-recipes-ebook.jpg "backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmetasheck) ## Use Skills to Replace Gear The best way to reduce weight without spending a single dollar is to learn skills.   One example would be learning how to sleep under a cheap tarp instead of an expensive freestanding UL tent.  Or learning how to pick the perfect campsite so you can sleep comfortably even on a thin pad.   Or learning to read a paper map so you don’t need to use GPS navigation… **How do you save money on ultralight gear?  Let us know in the comments section below.** --- ###### Sources: <https://www.backpacker.com/gear/does-ultralight-backpacking-have-an-elitism-problem/>, <https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/kzehen/a_6_pound_56_oz_ultralight_3_season_budget_gear/>, <https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/4od0mt/comment/d4cajkv/?context=10000> ###### Image credits: “[Backpacks lined up at the camp store. Ro](https://www.flickr.com/photos/joeross/6127318095/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [Joetography LLC](https://www.flickr.com/people/joeross/), “[st6](https://www.flickr.com/photos/vikapproved/9801770456/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [vikapproved](https://www.flickr.com/people/vikapproved/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [Do You Really Need Hiking Boots?](https://momgoescamping.com/do-you-really-need-hiking-boots/) **Published:** April 15, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Recently there has been a lot of debate about whether you actually need hiking boots.  Some “experts” say that hiking boots are overhyped and that lightweight trail running shoes are better.  And then there are all those people who successfully hike in sneakers. **So, do you really need to wear hiking boots or are regular shoes fine?** **The short answer:** You don’t need boots when hiking on easy terrain, smooth trails and dry conditions.  Trail runners, sneakers or even certain sandals should be fine. However, hiking boots or hiking shoes are absolutely necessary whenever you are going on rougher, technical terrain with scree, creek crossings or lots of mud.  In these conditions, sneakers or trail runners could result in injury – which is why search and rescue teams caution hikers to wear boots.  It’s also why forest rangers, firefighters and soldiers wear boots instead of shoes. (Sources: [1](https://www.reddit.com/r/ems/comments/1rx4vd/am_i_crazy_to_wear_shoes_instead_of_boots/), [2](https://www.lamrt.org.uk/safety/mountain-safety-advice/tips/wear-appropriate-footwear), [3](https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/swap-trainers-for-proper-boots-if-you-want-to-go-climbing-rescue-teams-warn-wzpf32c02gl), [4](https://www.lcsun-news.com/story/news/2020/07/23/stranded-organ-mountains-hikers-require-technical-rescue-monday/5490573002/), [5](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/north-shore-rescue-mount-fromme-three-hikers-1.5812695)) ## The Arguments *Against* Hiking Boots Lately it has become trendy for ultralight thru-hikers to wear trail runner shoes instead of hiking boots.  They make some good argumenst against boots — but these arguments only hold up in certain situations.  For example, they will argue that: ### **Boots Are Heavy**: Yes, heavy boots will cause your legs to become fatigued as quickly.  Some then take this argument further by claiming that you are less likely to become injured since you won’t be as tired. However, hiking boots aren’t as heavy as they used to be.  Since they give you support, your legs might end up *less* tired on uneven terrain. ### **Blisters:** Because boots don’t flex as much and your feet get sweaty in them, they are more likely to cause blisters than a lightweight shoe. But blisters are easy to solve by [wearing two pairs of socks](https://momgoescamping.com/wear-two-pairs-socks-prevent-blisters-hiking/) so sweat is wicked away and your skin isn’t rubbed.  And you can get blisters hiking in lightweight, flexible shoes too — especially if the shoes get wet.  Because they don’t lace up as high, feet tend to slide around in wet sneakers and shoes.  Sneakers are also like sponges that hold water, creating the perfect conditions for blisters. ### **Boots Take forever to dry:** No boot is really waterproof and they will take a long time to dry when wet. By contrast, a lightweight trail runner will dry out quickly. But, again, this argument only holds up if you are hiking in warm, dry conditions.  Not even trail runners will dry out in wet conditions! And the argument overlooks the fact that [hiking in wet boots isn’t actually so terrible](https://momgoescamping.com/keep-feet-dry-hiking/).   By contrast, hiking in wet shoes is nasty.  Your feet slide around in them and water doesn’t get wicked away from your skin. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/hiking-in-wet-shoes.jpg "hiking in wet shoes - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/hiking-in-wet-shoes.jpg)Feet after hiking 10 miles in wet running shoes ### **Expensive**: A good pair of hiking boots is expensive, which is why some people just wear their sneakers instead. But this argument doesn’t factor in the cost of destroyed shoes.  Sneakers and trail runners aren’t designed to handle tough conditions.  They fall apart quickly.  By contrast, I bought a pair of boots in 2003 for $150 and, even after *thousands* of miles of use in wet, snowy conditions, they are still fine (I did get them patched twice). [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/when-the-sole-comes-off-your-shoes-mid-hike.jpg "when the sole comes off your shoes mid hike - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/when-the-sole-comes-off-your-shoes-mid-hike.jpg)When the soles of your shoes fall off mid hike 🙁[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/merrell-shoes-beat-up-after-hike.jpg "merrell shoes beat up after hike - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/merrell-shoes-beat-up-after-hike.jpg)Destroyed Merrell shoes after a hike through Kanarra Falls in utah ## Reasons to Wear Hiking Boots ### 1. Boots Really Do Provide Ankle Support A lot of the trail runner advocates will tell you that “ankle support is a myth.”  While it is true that there are few actual studies about whether boots prevent ankle injuries, it doesn’t mean that boots don’t help. In [this study](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1323436/), for example, high-top shoes significantly reduce the amount of ankle inversion compared to low-top shoes. The researchers concluded that high-top shoes may also prevent ankle sprains when carrying heavy loads.  And [this study](https://lib.dr.iastate.edu/kin_conf/1/) found that boots reduced ankle inversion angles by 3.6 degrees in motorcycle drops. [Research in the Sports Medicine](https://link.springer.com/article/10.2165/00007256-199520040-00005) found that, “Studies support the use of high top shoes for ankle sprain prevention because of their ability to limit extreme ranges of motion, provide additional proprioceptive input and decrease external joint stress.” ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/boots-on-wet-slippery-terrain.jpg "boots on wet slippery terrain - Mom Goes Camping")Boots help keep you safe on wet slippery ground like this trail in Oregon ### 2. Hard Sole with Good Traction Boots have thick, hard soles with lots of traction.  These are absolutely necessary when you are hiking on loose stones or shale.  The soft sole of trail runners or sneakers will bend, preventing you from getting good traction.  By contrast, you can dig the sole of the boot in to get better footing. Those thick soles also make some hikes much more comfortable.  As one hiker said of hiking in her Merrell shoes on a trail full of rocks, “*I could feel most rocks through the sole.*” ### 3. Slough Off Mud Hiking boots do a good job of sloughing off mud.  By contrast, mud will build up around most regular shoes.  They will get heavier and slippery with each step you take. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/sloughing-off-mud-from-shoes.jpg "sloughing off mud from shoes - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/sloughing-off-mud-from-shoes.jpg)*Walking on the trail was hampered by having to stop every few minutes and shake off the caked mud* ### 4. Snake Bites Snake bites [rarely occur above the ankle](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1026007/pdf/westjmed00137-0039.pdf).  Because of this, wearing high-top hiking boots could prevent you from getting bit by a snake.   I wouldn’t rely on boots alone to protect me (you should be vigilant about checking where you step in snake territory), but it does give me some peace of mind. ## When You Can Get Away with Wearing Shoes Instead of Boots On trails with dry grass or smooth rock or compacted ground, you don’t need boots.  This includes the Pacific Crest Trail, Colorado, and Arizona.  If you are new to hiking and aren’t sure whether you want to invest in good boots yet, then go on a *very easy*  hike in your shoes.  If you struggle with the easy hike, then you will definitely need some boots before you attempt anything more difficult. **What’s your take on this — do you wear boots or shoes when hiking? Let us know in the comments below.** --- ###### Image credits: “[Take a Break](https://www.flickr.com/photos/hccampos/20394113415/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [hugoccampos](https://www.flickr.com/people/hccampos/), “[Muddy much?](https://www.flickr.com/photos/arsheffield/4184243278/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [arsheffield](https://www.flickr.com/people/arsheffield/), “[Roots and Boots. Forest Park – Upper M](https://www.flickr.com/photos/modern_artifacts/39377577631/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [Terry.Tyson](https://www.flickr.com/people/modern_artifacts/), “[Signal Knob – Prune Feet (Cropped)](https://www.flickr.com/photos/tgaw/2841062087/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [Vicky TGAW](https://www.flickr.com/people/tgaw/), “[The aftermath](https://www.flickr.com/photos/crashsensei/14356379911/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [CrashSensei](https://www.flickr.com/people/crashsensei/), “[cutting the bottoms off of my shoes](https://www.flickr.com/photos/cryptozoologist/35722307303/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [tango.mceffrie](https://www.flickr.com/people/cryptozoologist/), ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** boots, shoes --- ### [Kid's Hiking Gear Checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/gear-hiking-with-kids/) **Published:** March 29, 2016 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Not sure what kids hiking gear to pack? In addition to all the gear you should always bring hiking, you probably need a few extra items to make the hike safer and more enjoyable (for both you and the kids).  Here’s a list of hiking gear for kids, including optional fun items to bring along. \*Note that *you* will be carrying most of this.  At the end of the post I talk about what hiking gear older kids should carry. ## 1. Daypack with Rain Cover Older kids should have their own backpack with essential gear in it.  There are three main reasons for kids to have their own hiking pack: - **Safety:** If your kids get lost, they will have basic items to keep them safe until found. - **Sense of responsibility:** Kids take pride and learn responsibility by carrying their own hiking gear. - **They’ll be more likely to use gear:** When the hiking gear is in your kids’ packs, they are more likely to use it.  Such as remembering to put on their jacket when it gets cold or take a sip of water. ![Osprey Youth hiking backpack](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/osprey-youth-12-300x285.jpg "osprey youth 12 - Mom Goes Camping")*Osprey also makes several youth hiking backpacks in 12 and 18 liter sizes  [See them here](https://amzn.to/4bhCLdf)* **Also read: [Best Hiking Backpacks for Kids](https://momgoescamping.com/best-kids-hiking-backpacks/)** ## 2. Water Children need about 1-2 cups of water for each hour of hiking.  I like to err on the side of caution and bring 2 cups/hour for my child.  Plus, there is always the risk that your kids will knock over the water bottle and spill some 😮 .  Drinking from a water bladder might be better for kids than a standard Nalgene-style water bottle for this reason. Read this post about **[How to Calculate How Much Water to Bring on a Hike.](https://momgoescamping.com/how-much-water-to-bring-hiking/)** ![platypus hydration pack](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/platypus-300x290.jpg "platypus - Mom Goes Camping") *This [water bladder by Platypus](https://amzn.to/3QTh4Ic) can take a beating, can be used hands-free, and your kids can’t knock it over and spill all your precious water!* ## 3. LOTS of Snacks Even if you think you will only be gone on a short trip, bring loads of snacks.  Kids get cranky quickly if they don’t have snacks.  And, again, if you were to get lost, you’ll be happy for that sustenance. **Tip:** Let your kids pick out their own hiking snacks.  You should probably also give them their own snack bags too.  Otherwise they will eat all the good stuff out of the trail mix bag, leaving you with nothing but the boring stuff. ## 4. Hiking Shoes or Boots On most hikes, it’sperfectly okay for kids can hike in sneakers. In fact, it’s often *better* for little kids to hike in sneakers because they are lighter than boots.  But, on tougher terrain or longer hikes, older kids should wear boots.  Boots provide better protection against sprains and snake bites. It’s generally *not* a good idea for kids to hike in sandals (even hiking sandals).  Their feet can end up covered in poison ivy, ant bites, or scratches.  And it’s annoying to stop every 50 feet to remove pebbles from the sandals! Also read: [Do Kids Really Need Hiking Boots?](https://momgoescamping.com/do-kids-need-hiking-boots/) ## 5. Good Socks Invest in a few pairs of wool or synthetic hiking socks for your kids.  Cotton socks get drenched with sweat quickly, leading to blisters.  In cold weather, kids should wear two pairs of socks: a thin liner sock with a thicker wool sock on top. ## 6. Rain Jacket + Pants But the forecast says it will be sunny, you say?  The weather can change very quickly while hiking, especially in the mountains.  Getting wet = cold.  So make sure you have a rain jacket with you. Rain pants are also great for younger kids because they can splash in puddles or sit wherever without getting their bottom halves wet. Also read: [Best Kids Rain Jackets](https://momgoescamping.com/best-rain-jackets-kids/) and [Best Rain Pants for Kids](https://momgoescamping.com/best-kids-rain-pants/) ## 7. Appropriate Clothes - **Summer:** Lightweight clothing, preferably with some UV protection if it is going to be very sunny - **Spring and fall:** Quick-dry hiking pants plus a good base layer shirt and soft-shell jacket - **Winter:** Yours kids will need a base layer, insulating layer, and a warm jacket plus hats, gloves, and scarfs. ## 8. Hat with a Brim This is great for keeping the sun out of your eyes.  It also keeps rain out of your eyes in bad weather.  Your kids can skip this on summertime hikes in shady areas. ## 9. A Whistle This is an essential piece of hiking gear for kids.  If they get lost, they’ll be able to use it to call for help.  A lot of backpacks have whistles built into the straps now. ## 10. Headlamp If you get lost or the hike ends up taking a lot longer than anticipated (read [Calculate How Long It Will Take to Complete a Hike](https://momgoescamping.com/how-long-complete-hike/)), then you could get stuck outdoors in the night.  Yes, this has happend to me! You will each need a headlamp for hiking back home in the dark.   Plus, they are useful for peering into rock crevices or holes in trees to see what’s inside. 🙂 ## 11. Water Filter A water filter means you can safely drink water from backcountry lakes, streams, creeks, and even puddles (if it comes to it).  This is great because then you don’t have to bring as much water with you on the hike.  Considering that a liter of water weighs 2.2lbs, this is a huge benefit.  I use the [Sawyer Mini water filter](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FA2RLX2/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00FA2RLX2&linkId=4c91bbca03036a29f799a83b16fde29d). ## 12. First Aid Kit When hiking with kids, it’s almost inevitable that they will get some minor injuries.  Like the time my daughter fell on a prickle bush.  Or when she walked into stinging nettles.  Make sure you have a first aid kit for treating these minor injuries as well as any more serious injuries. Here is a [checklist of my mini first aid kit](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-first-aid-checklist/). ## 13. Bathroom Kit Not only is it gross to leave human waste and toilet paper along the trail, it’s also bad for the environment.  Be a good hiker and follow Leave No Trace by bringing along a bathroom kit.  It should include: - **Little trowel:** Bury poo and toilet paper at least 6 inches deep - **Wag Bag:** If you can’t bury poo or TP, then you’ll need to pack it out in a bag. - **Toilet paper:** Self explanatory - **Wet wipes:** Always pack these out — they take up to 100 years to decompose! - **Hand sanitizer** ## 14. Lighter and/or Waterproof Matches This is one one of the most essential emergency items to bring hiking. If you end up spending an unplanned night in the woods, you’ll be glad you brought a lighter.  Use your own judgment to decide whether your kids should carry their own lighter in their pack. ## 15. Knife or Multi-Tool You can use this for things like cutting a bandage, making a shelter, digging, or foraging for food.  More realistically, you’ll probably use it for fixing a broken toy or doing nature arts and crafts activities. Here are some [awesome knives which cost less than $70](https://momgoescamping.com/best-first-knives-kids/). ## 16. Rope Rope is another one of those survival items you should take hiking. Admittedly, it most often gets used for things like tying my daughter’s stuffed animals onto a pack so it can still “see” while we hike.  It is also good for things like broken bootlaces. ## 17. Sun Protection and Insect Repellent Bring the whole damn bottle with you while hiking with kids.  Even if you slathered up before setting off on the hike.  You will all sweat and need to reapply.  Or your kid will fall into a creek and you’ll need to reapply. 🙂 ## 18. Map and Compass Go ahead and get your kids their own maps and compasses to look at.  They will have fun while learning the valuable skill of navigation. ## 19. Bags for Trash You will end up with some trash.  Don’t try to stuff your trash (like granola bar wrappers) into your pack.  They might fall out and then you’ll be the jerk who littered on the trail.  A few plastic bags for trash are absolutely necessary. ## 20. Child Carrier Backpack If you are [hiking with a baby](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-with-baby/) or [very little kids](https://momgoescamping.com/tips-hiking-two-year-old/), you’ll probably end up carrying them for at least part of the hike.  You’ll want to bring a child carrier backpack.  Or, if the trail is accessible, a hiking stroller. **Read:** - [Tips for Using Child Hiking Carriers](https://momgoescamping.com/tips-child-hiking-carriers/) - [Stroller vs. Hiking Carrier](https://momgoescamping.com/stroller-vs-hiking-carrier/) - [Best hiking strollers](https://momgoescamping.com/all-terrain-strollers-hiking/) ## 21. Trekking Poles Kids love to use trekking poles while hiking. I personally won’t buy them for my kids (they’d probably end up losing them).  But I do make sure to find a good stick for them to use when we get to the trail.  If you are using a child carrier while hiking with little kids, then make sure you’ve got good poles: they will help redistribute the weight so you stay balanced and don’t strain your back. ## 22. Fun Stuff - Camera - Field guide - Lightweight toy/s - Pencil and notebook - Binoculars - Picnic blanket - Specimen collection cups (for all the nature stuff your kids will inevitably want to bring home — like the time we brought a dead mole home for [our bone collection](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-clean-animal-bones-hydrogen-peroxide/)) ![kid with binoculars hiking in backcountry](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/6364118159_0e532c9be1_z.jpg "binoculars - Mom Goes Camping")*Kids love taking binoculars hiking even if they are just a cheap toy pair* ## What Hiking Gear Should My Kids Carry? If you are hiking with younger kids, then you probably will be carrying *all* of the gear.  Once your kids get a bit older, they can start carrying some of their own hiking gear.   They don’t need to carry everything on the list though! **Here is the gear older kids should carry hiking:** - **Snacks** - **Water** - **Clothing** (if they take it off, they should carry it) - **Rain jacket** - **Whistle** - **Map and compass** (their own) - **Trash bag** - **Fun stuff** **What kids’ hiking gear do you take on the trail? Who carries it? Let us know in the comments.** --- Image credits: “[A Day at the Briar Patch](https://www.flickr.com/photos/chiotsrun/6364118159/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [ ](https://www.flickr.com/people/chiotsrun/)[Chiot’s Run](https://www.flickr.com/people/chiotsrun/) “[Table Rocks Environmental Education](https://www.flickr.com/photos/blmoregon/22874305734/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [ ](https://www.flickr.com/people/blmoregon/)[BLMOregon](https://www.flickr.com/people/blmoregon/)[ ](http://www.imagecodr.org/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking **Tags:** checklist, gear, kids --- ### [How to Stay Dry while Hiking in the Rain: 10 Expert Tips](https://momgoescamping.com/stay-dry-hiking-rain/) **Published:** December 4, 2019 **Author:** Diane **Content:** A lot of hardcore hikers will brag about how they don’t let the weather get in the way of their plans.  But hiking in the rain can be a miserable experience if you don’t manage to stay dry.  It can also be downright dangerous since wetness may lead to hypothermia.  So, follow these tips to stay dry while hiking in the rain. ## 1. Choose the Right Rain Jacket for Your Hike This might seem like an obvious thing to wear in when hiking in the rain, but there are actually a lot of different types of rain jackets. Some are better suited for certain weather, types of hikes, or seasons. ### Poncho They might look like trash bags (and sometimes *are* made from trash bags), but a poncho will help keep you dry if an unexpected rain hits during your hike. But there are many downsides of ponchos when hiking: - Ponchos are very loose so have a tendency to funnel water all around. - They flap around in windy weather. - The cheap material can easily snag on branches. - They can hinder your view of the ground. **Choose if:** You are better off getting a proper rain jacket. Bring a poncho only if you have nothing else, it’s a day hike, and the forecast is good. ### Rain Jackets When we say “rain jacket”, we are usually referring to a one-layer jacket.  It’s often made out of material like PVC which is completely waterproof. Rain jackets can also act as windbreakers. The problem with rain jackets is that they aren’t breathable. You can end up sweating a lot in them, which makes you wet from the inside out. There’s also no insulation, so they won’t keep you warm if the weather gets cold. **Choose if:** You are hiking in warm weather and you don’t want to carry a bulky rain jacket. ### Soft-Shell Jacket Soft-shell jackets are usually made out of several layers.  The inner layers wick moisture away from your body and provide insulation.  The outer layer has a water-resistant coating. Soft-shell jackets give you the best of both worlds: They are breathable, stretchy, warm, and provide wind protection.  The water-resistant coating keeps you dry when hiking in light rain.  However, if there is a serious downpour, the rain will seep through the fabric. That’s the tradeoff between breathability and water-protection. \*Note that you should regularly reapply the water-resistant coating to your soft-shell jacket!  Get a wash-in coating like Nikwax for jackets ([get here](https://amzn.to/2r73hoI)). **Choose if:** It’s cool outside and the weather probably won’t be too wet. ### Hard-Shell Jacket While a basic rain jacket is technically a type of hard-shell, we usually reserve the term “hard shell” for jackets that consist of multiple layers.  The inner layers wick moisture away from your body and insulate you.  The exterior layer is completely waterproof. Because hard-shell jackets are completely waterproof, they are not breathable.  There are some newer hardshells which claim to be breathable, though they tend to cost a fortune.  The lack of breathability, in combination with the layers of insulation, mean that you will end up sweating like crazy. They are better suited for sitting around in cold weather and not hiking in the rain. **Choose if:** It’s going to be very cold *and* very rainy on your hike. --- ## 2. Wear Rain Pants It doesn’t make much sense to wear a rain jacket if you aren’t also going to wear rain pants.  However, since our legs don’t require as much heat as our core, you don’t need the same amount of waterproofness as with your jacket. If you are going hiking in warm weather and it’s not likely to rain much, then you are probably better off with *water-resistant* hiking pants. These are very breathable and dry quickly. Completely waterproof pants become important when hiking in spring or fall, or during heavy rains. Depending on how cold it is likely to get, you can choose a pair of packable PVC rain pants to quickly put on over your normal hiking pants.  Or you can get insulated waterproof pants to wear for the duration of the hike. \*Pay attentionto whether the pants say water-*resistant* or *waterproof.* REI has a good selection of waterproof hiking pants.  [Check them out here](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dwaterproof%2Bpants%26pagesize%3D90).  Or see my picks for [best waterproof hiking pants for women](https://momgoescamping.com/best-waterproof-womens-hiking-pants/). --- ## 3. Invest in a Good Base Layer A base layer is what’s worn directly against your skin.  Its main job is to wick moisture away from your body. Good base layers are especially important when hiking in the rain.  Because your waterproof gear isn’t very breathable, you can end up sweating a lot.  The wrong base layer will trap this sweat against your body, causing you to get wet from the inside instead of out. Merino wool base layers are the most popular for hiking because of their breathability and warmth.  Synthetics are a more affordable option but usually don’t feel as good against the skin.  Read this post for [more about base layers](https://momgoescamping.com/merino-wool-base-layers-women/). --- ## 4. Don’t Forget a Hat with a Brim A brimmed hat is especially important for hiking in the rain. It funnels rain in front of you so it doesn’t pool on your face and then run down your neck. As someone who wears glasses, the brimmed hat is very important.  Even if you don’t wear glasses, you’ll probably still want a brimmed hat for rain: it keeps the rain away from your eyes so you don’t end up squinting. Lots of rain jackets have hoods with visors.  These work to a point, but they don’t compare to the longer brim on a hat.  Plus, the brimmed hat will keep sun out of your eyes too once the weather gets better. --- ## 5. Tuck In and Cinch Up Clothes When the rain gets crazy, water can sneak in from all directions.  It will roll down your hands and saturate your shirt sleeves.  It will get absorbed by any layers peeking out of your shell.  Heck, rain can even bounce *up* from the ground and soak you from under your rain jacket! To keep dry, it’s important that you prevent rain from getting onto your clothing and saturating it. **Here are some tips:** - **Tighten the wrist straps on your jacket.** You want to keep the sleeves from riding up and getting your wrists wet, which will in turn get your base layers wet. - **Cinch your jacket’s drawstring.** Good rain jackets have a drawstring or elastic at the bottom. This can be cinched to prevent your jacket from riding up and exposing your non-waterproof clothes. - **Tuck in your shirt.** Even if you cinched your jacket drawstring, it may ride up while hiking. Minimize exposure risk by tucking in your shirt. - **Roll up sleeves and pant cuffs under your rain shell.** This will create a “buffer zone” and keep your clothes from getting wet if your rain pants or rain jacket ride up. - **Shorten your hiking poles.** You want your hands to be lower than your wrists so water doesn’t drip down your arms and soak your sleeves. - **Keep your arms down.** Avoid the urge to put your thumbs in your backpack straps. --- ## 6. Keeping Feet Dry [![how to keep feet dry hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/keep-feet-dry-hiking.jpg "keep feet dry hiking - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/keep-feet-dry-hiking.jpg) When your feet get wet while hiking in the rain, the skin becomes more sensitive and prone to blisters and damage. **To keep your feet dry while hiking, you can:** - **Waterproof your boots:** The waterproof coating on boots will eventually wear away. Apply a waterproof wax or spray to your boots before each season. - **Use gaiters:** Gaiters are covers that go over your lower legs and ankles. They keep rain from getting into your boots around the ankle area. - **Wear waterproof socks:** Waterproof socks should be worn between your normal socks and boots. They act as a buffer to keep your feet dry even when your boots get wet.  [Randy Sun Gore-Tex socks](https://amzn.to/3URtXE3) are a great option for hiking. The problem with these methods though is that your feet will probably get sweaty (and thus wet).  A lot of serious hikers just give up on keeping their feet dry.  Instead, they focus on minimizing the damage done by wet feet.  [More on that here](https://momgoescamping.com/keep-feet-dry-hiking/). --- ## 7. Protecting Your Gear from Rain You don’t want all the hiking and safety gear in your pack to get damaged by the rain.  To keep it safe: - **Put a waterproof cover over your backpack:** If your backpack didn’t come with a cover, there are universal ones you can buy. - **Use a dry bag:** Water can still get into your pack even with a cover over it. Keep sensitive items like electronics safe by putting them in a dry bag. - **Put small items in Zip-lock bags:** Especially make sure your map and first aid items are protected! \*The [Unigear Dry Sack](https://amzn.to/38agyhc) comes in various sizes and is completely waterproof. --- ## 8. Use Hiking Poles Hiking poles don’t directly help you stay dry.  However, trails get slick and muddy when it rains. Using hiking poles minimizes the risk that you’ll fall on your butt and splatter muddy water up your jacket. Plus, there’s tons of [other reasons to use poles when hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-poles-pros-cons/). --- ## 9. Bring a Sitting Pad Time to take a break from hiking? When the weather is rainy, it’s not always easy to find a place to sit.  The ground can be a giant mud puddle.  Logs and rocks are cold and slippery.  A simple solution is to bring a waterproof pad to sit on. The [Therm-a-Rest Z cushion](https://amzn.to/2rSX3c1) is only 2 ounces and has an accordion-style fold so it’s easy to set up when you want to take a break. It’s waterproof so you don’t have to worry about it absorbing rain. --- ## 10. Pack Rain-Appropriate Food One thing that people overlook when hiking in the rain is there food selection.  Some foods – like sandwiches and tortillas – are terrible for rainy hikes.  They get saturated and soggy when you try to eat them in the rain. Choose foods which won’t get soggy quickly.  Make sure that foods are in waterproof baggies.  And, a hot meal goes a long way to keeping you warm in a cold downpour! Consider bringing a proper meal, like one of [my DIY dehydrator recipes](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/) which can be made by just adding hot water. --- ## Assume That It Will Rain on Your Hike Remember, the weather can be very finicky – especially when you are hiking in the mountains or in shoulder seasons.  **Even if the forecast calls for good weather, pack as though it could rain**. In addition to bringing rain gear for your hike, be prepared for the worst.  See this [hiking packing list](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-packing-list/) for all the gear you need to bring to stay safe. --- Image credits:”[Tour de l’Oisans et des Écrins (GR54)](https://www.flickr.com/photos/kittysfotos/44547422661/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Kitty Terwolbeck](https://www.flickr.com/people/kittysfotos/) “[Wet boots](https://www.flickr.com/photos/kathrin_marks/3466361727/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Kathrin Marks](https://www.flickr.com/people/kathrin_marks/) Resources: https://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/opinion-soft-shell-or-hard-shell/ <https://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/gear/is_the_traditional_hardshell_jacket_redundant-660502> <https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/just-get-your-friggin-shoes-wet/> <https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/106367/> ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking **Tags:** fall, rain, spring, weather --- ### [How to Unclog a Sawyer Mini Water Filter](https://momgoescamping.com/unclog-sawyer-mini/) **Published:** September 10, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** In the video below, you can see two Sawyer Mini water filters.  The first is fairly new.  The second one has filtered approximately 600 gallons of water – including lots of murky pond water.  As a result, it has become very clogged.  The steps will show you how to unclog the Sawyer Mini. The old Sawyer Mini is so clogged that water is leaking from the threads where it is attached to the pouch! ## 1. Backflush with Filtered Water First backflush the Sawyer Mini.  Make sure you are doing it with a LOT of force (I push the plunger against my chest).  Otherwise the water will just exit from the path of least resistance and not clear the clogs. \*It is important that you use filtered or distilled water to backflush.  I have very hard water in my house and I don’t want the minerals from my tap water further clogging up the filter. --- ## 2. Soak the Sawyer Mini - Put hot FILTERED water in a bowl big enough to hold the Sawyer Mini. - The water should NOT be boiling. Make it hot enough that you can still put your finger in it. - Add a generous splash of white vinegar to the water. This helps break down calcium and other mineral deposits which may be clogging the filter. - Let the filter soak for at least an hour. \*Seriously use filtered water or distilled water. Otherwise the minerals from your hard tap water will just clog the Sawyer Mini further. ![unclogging sawyer mini filter](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/unclogging-sawyer-mini-filter.jpg "unclogging sawyer mini filter - Mom Goes Camping") --- ## 3. Backflush again Being very forceful, backflush the Sawyer Mini again with filtered water.  The filter should be unclogged when you test it. --- ## 4. Repeat steps, if necessary If the filter still isn’t unclogged, then you’ll need to soak it in hot vinegar water and backflush again. The video below shows the same two Sawyer Mini filters after unclogging the old one.  As you can see, the flow is a lot better.  However, there is still some water leaking from the threads (despite the fact that the filter also got a new O-ring).  The flow rate also still isn’t as good as the new filter. Despite what the company promises, [Sawyer Mini filters do not last forever](https://momgoescamping.com/how-long-does-sawyer-mini-filter-last/). At a certain point, you will probably need a new one. Luckily, they are pretty cheap and the old ones can be kept in case of emergencies. You can get a new one [here at Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FA2RLX2/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00FA2RLX2&linkId=f80b04b1477ceb210e365082e90464b6) or [here at REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dsawyer%2Bmini). **You may also want to read: [Tips for using the Sawyer Mini water filter](https://momgoescamping.com/sawyer-mini-tips/)** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** filter, Sawyer Mini --- ### [How to Get Over Your Fear of the Outdoors](https://momgoescamping.com/fear-outdoors/) **Published:** February 8, 2017 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I grew up backpacking in the Adirondacks Mountains, camping, and orienteering all over the country.  It never occurred to me to be scared of nature – even when in bear country or when encountering venomous snakes. Then I went hiking in the jungle of Peru. That is when I finally felt *real fear* of nature. The fact that my 6 year old was on the hike with me only compounded my fears by making my mommy instincts kick in. ![Even the trees in the jungle are threatening!](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/jungle-trekking-tree-683x1024.jpg "jungle trekking tree - Mom Goes Camping")Even the trees in the jungle are threatening ### That fear-ridden hike changed my perception about a lot of things, particularly: **1) The idea that humans have conquered the world.** No.  There are still some places where wildlife reigns supreme! **2) It isn’t just the big things we should fear.** Bears are scary, right? Well, in the jungle, it was the izula ants which had me terrified. **3) I became more conscientious of why so many people fear the outdoors –** and also what can be done to quell those fears. ## Your Fears are Justified… The fear I felt hiking in the jungle was completely justified.  Why? Because I am completely clueless about the dangers of the jungle.  I don’t know what animals live there, what plants are dangerous, how to read the weather or the terrain… Remember, fear is a natural response and it is fear that [helped humanity survive](http://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/29/health/science-of-fear/) through the ages. Nature isn’t some terribly dangerous thing where malicious wild animals lurk around every corner waiting to kill you. But if you are heading into nature and have no clue about how to act in it, then your fears are justified.  You could end up doing something stupid out of ignorance, such as forgetting to make a ring for your campfire and starting a forest fire. Just consider how many people die in Yellowstone because of “stupid” mistakes — like the tourist who died because he tried to [swim in the boiling hot spring](http://www.denverpost.com/2016/06/09/gruesome-hot-spring-death-highlights-problems-at-yellowstone/). Going into nature requires knowledge about what to do and how to act.  It isn’t just for your safety, but for the nature too. How many uneducated hikers leave trash all over the trails, or campers crap in the woods without burying it? Here are just *some* of the things you should know before going backpacking, camping, or hiking: - **How to set up camp:** - [How to avoid landslides, falling trees, flooding](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-dangers/)… - [How to make a fire](https://momgoescamping.com/fire-lays/) - How to make a latrine - **Wild animal safety:** - [How to hang a bear bag](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-hang-a-bear-bag/) - [What to do if you see a bear](https://momgoescamping.com/if-you-see-bear/) - [What to do if you see a snake](https://momgoescamping.com/what-to-do-if-you-see-a-snake/) - **First aid:** - How to prevent waterborne illness - First aid skills - How to treat hypothermia - How to treat burns - **Hiking:** - How to read a map - [What to do if you get lost](https://momgoescamping.com/lost-in-the-woods/) - [How to calculate water needs for hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/how-much-water-to-bring-hiking/) This list could go on, and it varies depending on what type of outdoor activity you are doing and where. The point is that, if you don’t know about any of these necessary things, then your fears of nature are justified. You could get hurt or killed without proper knowledge!! ## When Educating Yourself Doesn’t Cure the Fear Sometimes education isn’t enough to quell fears. Just look how many people are scared of spiders.  They know that the spiders are harmless, and even “deadly” spiders like [black widows are unlikely to kill anyone](https://animals.howstuffworks.com/arachnids/black-widow-spider.htm). **Fear isn’t rational.** This is what [David Ropeik talks about in Psychology Today](https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/how-risky-is-it-really/201106/toward-more-holistic-definition-risk?collection=66283) when he says that fear is a mix of facts, feelings, intuition, and gut reaction.  He quotes the neuroscientist Sam Wang in saying, > “The brain really is a survival machine.  It’s not there to perform some sort of super computing operation… It tells you lies.  Your brain misrepresents.  It distorts. All in the interest of helping you survive.” So stop feeling bad when people arrogantly tell you that your fears of the outdoors are misplaced. The only way to overcome your fears is to *face them*. Yeah, that seems like a crappy Catch 22.  The only way to get over your fear of (bears, snakes, sleeping alone at in the woods…) is to go out into nature. But you can’t go out and do it because you are too scared! The solution to this is to start slowly. ## Starting Slowly Educating yourself will do a lot to quell your fears of the outdoors, but it won’t necessarily cure them.  The only truly effective way to overcome fear is through exposure.  Eventually, you become more comfortable with the outdoors and aren’t scared anymore. As one Wilderness Survival forum member [said about camping fear](http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?25980-How-do-you-get-over-the-fear-of-camping-by-yourself), > “It was a gradual transition for me. From a crib, to my very own bed, to blanket pup tents in the living room that my younger brothers weren’t allowed in, to overnights alone in the tent in the backyard…to an eventual solo hike in New Hampshire that lasted 10 – 14 days.” The next time I go jungle hiking, I’m going to pay for a professional guide to take me.  I will be able to learn from the guide.  After many treks, I might finally have enough wisdom to go feel comfortable going out alone. If your fear is solo camping, maybe you need some more group trips before you are ready. Or if your fear of wild animals is keeping you from camping, maybe you should sleep in a cabin a few times first.  You’ll get used to the nighttime sounds while having the mental security of the cabin. ## What’s the Worst that Could Happen? Here’s the tactic that I personally use to get over any fearful moments while camping.  I ask myself, “What’s the worst that could happen?” This is counter to the whole “positive thinking” movement that discourages you from ever admitting that something bad could happen.  Positive thinking might make you feel good, but it doesn’t stop bad things from happening! The pessimistic approach is much better at squashing your fears because it allows you to *prevent and prepare* for any bad thing which may happen.  And, when you are prepared, you will be less scared. For example, the most dangerous animals where I live are viper snakes.  I did a lot (LOT!) of research on vipers before going backpacking with my then-3-year-old daughter.  I read a study where I learned that death and amputation rarely occur, and that I could conclude that my daughter would be safe so long as we could get antivenom within 4 hours.   So, I chose not to camp more than 4 hours away from civilization when in viper territory. I also made sure my daughter knows how to avoid snake encounters (don’t pick up any rocks!), what to do if she sees a snake, and even first aid for snake bites. ### Examples of Worst Case Scenarios (WCS) **WCS: Bear Attack Prevent:** Bear-proof the campsite **Plan:** Bring bear spray in case of an attack **WCS: Getting Lost Prevent:** Learn navigation skills and always bring a map and compass **Plan:** Know how to make a survival shelter in case you need to spend a few nights in the woods; always carry a whistle and a firestarter so you can make a smoke signal **WCS: You Get Injured while Hiking Prevent:** Wear proper shoes and don’t push your limits **Plan:** Tell a family member where you are going.  Establish a specific time/date that you will be back.  If not back by that time, the family member is to notify search and rescue.  For longer hikes, you can use a GPS system like SPOT, which is what my dad uses. ## Dealing with Fear Once You Get Out There The tactics up until now – educating yourself, taking baby steps, and thinking of Worst Case Scenarios – are all fine when *preparing for a camping trip.* *But what if you get scared while out in the wilderness?* Turning around isn’t exactly an option at 3am! At night, the sounds of the wild seem really amplified.  Squirrels running on branches sound like giant bears.  The wind blowing can make trees seem like there are talking.  And, yes, animals do howl. All of these sounds can really get your imagination going!!!! There’s a lot of ways to deal with this fear… - Hike until you are so exhausted that you drop to sleep immediately. - Bring something along to do and think of, such as a book to read. - Open the tent and look around. It is better to face the fear than worry about “what’s out there” all night. - Remind yourself that you are alright right now (more on that technique [here](https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-wise-brain/201106/notice-youre-alright-right-now)) - Set up trip wires so you are warned if any animals come As one woman said in the comments of this post on [fear and the outdoor experience](http://sectionhiker.com/fear-and-the-outdoor-experience/), fear and respect are two sides of the same feeling in nature. Sometimes fear takes over, and you have to struggle to get through it. ## And Overcoming Your Fear Is Worth It On a final note, I like how Rich Wright at [Live Outdoors](http://www.liveoutdoors.com/recreation/231325-overcoming-the-fear-of-solo-camping/) talks about how overcoming fears unlocks ancient memories of “rites of passage” ceremonies that all indigenous tribes partook in. Why are tribal rituals focused on overcoming fear? Because they were aware that the access to wisdom is hampered by fear. Here’s where I’m going to get sentimental and cheesy: Overcoming your fear of nature isn’t only important so you can get closer to nature.  It is so you can get closer to yourself and be brave enough to live the life you want. ### What’s the most scared you’ve been while in the outdoors? How did you deal with it? ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety --- ### [Women's Backpacking Gear Checklist (Printable)](https://momgoescamping.com/womens-backpacking-checklist/) **Published:** June 2, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Most of the gear women need for backpacking is exactly the same as for men. However, there are a few women-specific backpacking items you might need (and won’t find on most backpacking checklists).   Here’s what they are, plus everything else ladies need to go backcountry backpacking. You can get a downloadable & printable version of the checklist [here](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-checklist/). [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/solo-gear-800-420.jpg "solo gear 800 420 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/solo-gear-800-420.jpg)Heres all my gear for a 3 night4 day solo backpacking trip Base weight = 18lbs Not shown camera its in my hands ## **Women-Specific Backpacking Items** ### **Pee rag**: Instead of burying or packing out TP, consider using a pee rag.  Just use a rag (like a bandana) to wipe after peeing.  Then tie it to the outside of your pack to dry as you hike. There are even some pee clothes specifically for backpacking that you can buy, like the P Cloth shown below (and available [here](https://amzn.to/2ZVkr7Y)).  But I made my own ([instructions here](https://momgoescamping.com/diy-hiking-pee-cloth/)) ![pee cloth for women backpackers](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/p-cloth.jpg "p cloth - Mom Goes Camping") ### **Hair brush/comb/hair ties/headband:**  I have short hair but it still gets sweaty and tangled while backpacking.  Thus I always bring a comb and headband. ### **Pee funnel:** These are great for discretely peeing off the trail without having to pull your entire pants down.  There are tons of these available now (check out “[The Tinkle Belle](https://amzn.to/2XPEmCw)“). ### **Feminine items:** I use the Diva cup. If you use tampons or pads, you’ll need to pack them out. Here’s [how to deal with your period while backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-period/). ### **Bathing suit:** I personally feel a bit uncomfortable swimming in my underwear so I always bring a bathing suit or at least an extra sports bra that I can wear as a bathing suit. ### **Bra:** A good sports bra can keep you comfortable and dry.  Seriously, under-boob sweat is no fun. 🙂 ### **Women’s backpack:** Women’s packs have shorter torso lengths, are narrower, and have a difference hip belt design. See picks for [best women’s backpacks](https://momgoescamping.com/best-hiking-backpacks-petite-women/) here. ### **Odor-proof bags:**  There’s conflicting info as to whether bloody tampons or pads will attract wild animals.  To play it safe, put used pads or tampons in odor-proof bags when packing them out (never bury them!).  The LOKSAK odor-proof bags are most popular with backpackers.  You can get them [here on Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UTK95WU/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00UTK95WU&linkId=8c44941621d18642da85adf61b45ed09). --- ## **Key Backpacking Gear** - **Daypack** - **Waterproof pack cover** - **Tent/shelter** - **Sleeping bag:** See [women’s sleeping bags at REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fc%2Fwomens-sleeping-bags) - **Sleeping pad** - **Rope** - **Carabiner** - **Bear bag/canister** - **Headlamp** - **Extra batteries** - **GPS and/or map** - **Compass** - **Knife and/or multitool** - **Water purifier** - **Water bladder and/or bottle** - **Fire starting kit** (lighter, waterproof matches, tinder) - **Bear spray** - **Trekking poles** - **Trash bags/sacks** --- ## Health/Hygiene Items - **Potty trowel/shovel** - **First aid kit:** Here’s a [checklist of what I keep in mine](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-first-aid-kit-checklist/) - **Toothpaste and brush** - **Biodegradable soap** - **Sun block and lip balm** - **Bug spray** - **Toilet paper** - **Baby wipes:** Optional, but really nice for giving  yourself a wipe-down “bath” - **Towel or handkerchief** --- ## Clothes - **Base layer top and bottoms:** See my picks for the [best women’s base layers](https://momgoescamping.com/merino-wool-base-layers-women/) - **Mid layer top:** Fleece, wool or puffy - **Hiking pants/shorts** - **Shell layer (soft-shell jacket or rain jacket)** - **Rain pants (or insulated shell pants if very cold):** See my picks for the [best women’s rain pants ](https://momgoescamping.com/best-waterproof-womens-hiking-pants/) - **Liner socks + insulating socks** - **Underwear** - **Boots** - **Camp sandals** - **Hat with a brim** - **Buff/hat and gloves (if cold)** --- ## Kitchen - **Camp stove:** I also use this [DIY windscreen](https://momgoescamping.com/diy-windscreen-canister-stove/) with mine - **Fuel** - **Pot** - **Bowl** (or eat from the pot) - **Utensil** - **Cleaning sponge** --- ## Food/Water - **Meals**: Here are some [easy backpacking meal ideas](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-supermarket-foods/) - **Snacks/GORP** - **Salt, sugar, seasonings, oil** - **Coffee, tea, powdered milk, and/or drinks** --- ## Fun - **Camera** - **Notebook and pencils** - **Field guides** - **Book/eReader** - **Binoculars** --- ## Other - **Personal location device** - **Solar charger** - **Whistle** - **Sunglasses** - **Glasses case** - **Chair/foam pad seat** **Is there anything for women I missed on this backpacking checklist?  Let me know in the comments.** Image credit: “[Tea](https://www.flickr.com/photos/henryrose/4921157060/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [jhenryrose](https://www.flickr.com/people/henryrose/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Backpacking **Tags:** checklist, women --- ### [Camping Essentials for Toddlers (Printable Checklist)](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-essentials-toddlers/) **Published:** January 21, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Not sure what to bring when camping with a toddler? Resist the urge to bring everything “just in case” you might need it. You’ll end up with a chaotic mess of gear and spend all your time organizing it instead of having fun. But some extra gear really is useful to have when camping with toddlers.  This list covers all the *essential* toddler camping gear and supplies that will make your trip safer, easier and more enjoyable. **[Download the printable version here](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/family-camping-checklist-momgoescamping.pdf)**. \*The printable list also includes all the non-toddler items you’ll need too, like a camp stove, fuel, mess kit, etc. ## 1. Toddler Sleeping Bag For younger toddlers or for camping in cold temperatures, I like the [Morrison Big Mo sleeping bags](https://morrisonoutdoors.com?aff=3).  They have two versions: one rated for 20F and another rated for 40F. Also see these picks for [Best Toddler Sleeping Bags](https://momgoescamping.com/best-toddler-sleeping-bags-camping/) ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/big-mo-toddler-sleeping-bag.jpg "big mo toddler sleeping bag - Mom Goes Camping")*The Big Mo toddler sleeping bag for camping **Use discount code Momgoescamping at checkout to get 10 off [Get it here](https://morrisonoutdoors.com?aff=3)*** ## 2. Sleeping Pad The sleeping pad insulates your toddler from the ground, which is just as important as the sleeping bag for staying warm.  My daughters use the Therm-a-Rest Short Sleeping Pad (available at [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07YCJG2H4/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07YCJG2H4&linkId=4df16193f5b8704d0c1355feeed94b25) and [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dtherm%2Ba%2Brest%2Bscout%26pagesize%3D90)), which is very warm, lightweight and affordable. Also see these [best camping sleeping pads for little kids](https://momgoescamping.com/baby-sleeping-pads-camping/). ## 3. Portable Bed, Crib or Playpen This isn’t absolutely essential, but it can make camping with a toddler a lot easier (especially young toddlers).  Some parents like to bring a portable playpen (like a [Pack N Play](https://amzn.to/2K1qrE7)) so their toddler has somewhere safe to play while they do camp chores. If your tent is big enough, it can also double as a crib. There are also small portable beds your toddler can use for camping.  Again, these aren’t essential – but it helps keep your kids “organized” in the tent.  Mine has a tendency to squirm and kick me in the face! **Read: [Best Toddler Camping Beds](https://momgoescamping.com/toddler-camping-beds/)** ![camping bed for toddlers](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/camping-bed.jpg "camping bed - Mom Goes Camping")*The [Milliard folding bed for toddlers](https://amzn.to/407ezV7) works well for camping* ## 4. Camping Chair Your toddler will feel all grown up with her own camping chair.  They are also incredibly useful during meal times: it’s much easier (and less messy) to eat from a chair than hunched over a plate on the ground. I like the [OmniBoost folding chair with tray](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078K5LM9Z/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B078K5LM9Z&linkId=5e7aca7536a44f7ec26f66276b5924df) best because it has a removable tray, so you can use it for meal times. Also see these [best camping chairs for babies and toddlers](https://momgoescamping.com/the-only-baby-camping-chairs-worth-buying/). [![omniboost chair camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/omniboost-chair.jpg "omniboost chair - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/omniboost-chair.jpg) *Shown above: The [OmniBoost folding chair with tray](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078K5LM9Z/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B078K5LM9Z&linkId=5e7aca7536a44f7ec26f66276b5924df)* ## 5. Feeding![](//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&l=am2&o=1&a=B078K5LM9Z) Time Essentials - **LOTS of snacks.** Bring more than you think you will need. Toddlers burn through calories while camping! - **Easy, quick-cooking meals:** See these [kid-friendly camping meal ideas](https://momgoescamping.com/easy-camping-meals/) - **Baggies and Tupperware:** For organizing food while on hikes and day trips - **Toddler-friendly water bottle:** We keep a water bottle in the tent for nighttime drinks. It’s got to be leak proof so it doesn’t spill all over the tent. - **Giant bib:** Very helpful for keeping your toddler clean(ish) during mealtime. ![camping bib for toddlers](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/camping-bib.jpg "camping bib - Mom Goes Camping")This [giant bib by Bumpkins](https://amzn.to/2M5M9JY) keeps your toddler clean during mealtime ## 6. Buckets Buckets are essential when camping with a toddler.  You can use them for giving your kid an improvised bath, washing clothes, or filling with water and letting your toddler happily splash around for hours. You can use the same buckets for washing dishes. If you are pressed for space, check out these [collapsible buckets with drains](https://momgoescamping.com/portable-camp-sinks/). ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/toddler-playing-with-buckets-of-water-camping.jpg "toddler playing with buckets of water camping - Mom Goes Camping")*My toddler playing with buckets full of water on a summer camping trip* ## 7. Clothing Your toddler will need clothing which can be worn in layers for camping.  Aim for synthetic or wool materials as they dry fastest (a wet toddler is a cold toddler).  If you must use cotton, then bring lots of extras: it absorbs dirt and water like a sponge and takes forever to dry! - Base layer - Insulating layer - Shell layer/jacket - Socks - Hat with a brim - Pajamas - Underwear - Swimsuit (if you plan on swimming or splashing) - Rain suit or rain jacket and rain pants - Sneakers or boots - Camp sandals **Note:** Absolutely don’t skip the rain jacket or rain pants.  Otherwise you will have to keep your toddler trapped inside the tent while it rains! The rain gear also keeps your toddler *clean* when playing in the mud after the rain has stopped. **[![Playshoes rain pants for toddlers](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/playshoes-rain-pants.jpg "playshoes rain pants - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/playshoes-rain-pants.jpg)** I like the [Playshoes Rain Pants](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000RU6CQY/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B000RU6CQY&linkId=43d24554658fb7991a60500d7cb1bb1f) (shown above).  Also see these [best rain pants and suits for toddlers](https://momgoescamping.com/best-rain-suits-toddlers/). ## 8. Safety Items - **First aid kit:** Here’s my [camping first aid checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-first-aid-checklist/) - **Sunscreen:** Or use UV-clothing for extra protection - **Bug spray:** See [toddler-safe bug spray](https://momgoescamping.com/best-baby-safe-mosquito-repellents-camping/) here - **Mosquito net:** For draping over stroller or playpen during naptime - **Life jacket:** If you plan on doing any boating or water activities. Don’t count on the company to have toddler-sized life jackets! - **Child Leash:** Aka “child safety tether.” My husband has a disability and can’t chase after our toddler, so this is a must-have for him. I also sometimes use it when I’m really tired; I can zone out without worrying that our girl will wander away. ## 9. Bathroom and Hygiene Items Your toddler might not be able to hold it until he gets to the campground bathroom.  Even if he can, those bathrooms might be pretty gross. 🙂 So bring along these essentials for your toddler camping: - **Portable potty – see these [best toddler camping potties](https://momgoescamping.com/best-toddler-potties-camping/)** - **Diapers, changing pad, wipes, and butt cream** - **Leak-catching pad:** If your toddler doesn’t wear diapers at night anymore, put this inside the sleeping bag in case of an accident) - **Trowel:** You need this to dig a hole for pooping in the woods! - **Plastic trash bags** - **Waterproof shoes:** Optional but recommended if you plan on taking your toddler into the camp showers ## 10. Picnic Blanket or Foam Pad Put one of these down at the campsite so your toddler has somewhere to play.  Otherwise she’ll get dirty (I should say *dirtier*).  If it is particularly cold, then use an insulated pad instead. ## 11. Stroller or Carrier When my daughter was younger (and thus lighter), I mostly used a backpack child carrier so we could go on hikes.  As she got bigger, we switched to using a stroller. It’s easier on my back, allows us to carry a bunch of stuff inside, and she naps in it. Luckily, a lot of parks now have stroller-friendly trails. I really like the [Ergobaby Omni 360 All Position Carrier](https://amzn.to/2K4pdYC) for smaller toddlers.  For older toddlers or more serious hiking, the [Deuter Child Carrier](https://amzn.to/2JV6vCQ) is a great option with tons of features.  And a cool lightweight solution is the [TrailMagik carrier](https://momgoescamping.com/trail-magik) which attaches to your backpack. ![TrailMagik carrier](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/trailmagik-lightweight-carrier.jpg "trailmagik lightweight carrier - Mom Goes Camping")*The [TrailMagik carrier](https://momgoescamping.com/trail-magik) attaches to your backpack* **Also Read:** - [**Stroller vs. Carrier for Hiking with Babies and Toddlers**](https://momgoescamping.com/stroller-vs-hiking-carrier/) - [**Best Child Carriers for Petite Women**](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-child-carrier-petite-women/) - **[Best All-Terrain Strollers](https://momgoescamping.com/all-terrain-strollers-hiking/)** ## 12. Toys and Entertainment You’ll be amazed at how toddlers can entertain themselves while camping with rocks, sticks, dirt and other things around the campsite.  The fewer toys you bring, the more likely your toddler is to actually interact with nature. So, other than a favorite stuffed animal or comfort item, leave the toys at home. I do recommend bringing along some “adventure” items though, such as: - Small buckets - Shovels - Bug net - Binoculars - Specimen collection cups - Notebook and drawing supplies Need ideas about how to entertain your toddler while camping? See these [30 camping activities which require no prep](https://momgoescamping.com/activities-entertain-kids-camping/). ## 13. Lights Your toddler probably doesn’t *need* her own headlamp or flashlight.  But she’ll probably cry to use yours.  So it’s best that your toddler gets her own. 🙂   Some parents also like to bring glowsticks when camping with toddlers so they can find them more easily at night. ## 14. Rope Rope is a weird random essential for camping with toddlers.  On various trips, I’ve used it for things like: - A clothesline for wet clothes - Making a ridgeline, to create a fort or shady area - Attaching a plushie to the carrier so it can “see” without getting lost **Tip:** Check out [REI’s Outlet](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Frei-garage) section of their website. You can often find really good deals on toddler camping gear. **Need more advice? Read: [How to Go Camping with a Toddler](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-with-toddler/)** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** toddler --- ### [Best Water Bottles and Insulators for Winter Hiking (and how to keep your water from freezing!)](https://momgoescamping.com/water-bottles-insulators-winter/) **Published:** December 6, 2018 **Author:** Diane **Content:** When hiking or backpacking in freezing weather, you run the risk of your water freezing.  Even if the water doesn’t completely freeze, drinking icy-cold water can also cause problems since it will reduce your body temperature. So, how do you prevent water from freezing while hiking in winter? Here are some solutions for preventing water bottles from freezing, and the best water bottles and bottle insulators for winter. ## Quick Answer Your best choice for winter hiking is to get a [wide-mouth HDPE Nalgene bottle](https://amzn.to/2PmogKe) or a [Hunersdorf water bottle](https://amzn.to/2Sy4VIg).  Fill these with hot water and then insulate the bottle to keep the contents warm.  You can also use an insulated thermos flask for hiking in winter.  They are heavier but do a better job of keeping your drinks hot. Just make sure any thermos flask you use has a wide mouth and is easy to drink from with gloved hands. ## Problems with Water Bottles when Winter Hiking When going hiking in freezing weather, you have to deal with these potential issues: 1. The water can freeze in your bottle 2. Water can get into the cap threads or tube/mouthpiece (for bladders) and freeze, making it impossible to get open 3. Drinking cold water will make you even colder 4. It’s hard to open water bottles with gloved hands, which means you might not drink enough water while hiking and become dehydrated. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/26696787658_ef7c779b0a_z.jpg "winter hiking - Mom Goes Camping")*Winter hiking is beautiful so long as you are prepared* ## Best Water Bottles for Winter Hiking ### Nalgene and Hunersdorf Bottles (Recommended) Nalgene bottles are great for winter hiking because many have wide mouths.  This means that you can easily fill them with boiling water.  Don’t try to do this with a narrow-mouth bottle! The downsides of Nalgene bottles in winter? Some types of Nalgene bottles have been known to crack.  If you get wet while hiking in freezing weather, this could mean hypothermia and death. You MUST use a Nalgene bottle made from high density polyethylene HDPE. These won’t crack on you.  They are also lighter than normal Nalgene bottles (3.75oz vs. 7oz). You can [buy one here](https://amzn.to/2PmogKe) on Amazon. Alternatively, you can use the [Hunersdorf water bottle](https://amzn.to/2PmogKe) by Liberty Mountain. It is recommended by mountain guides since it can hold boiling water and won’t crack or leak.  They are 1.5 liters and have a large cap which is easy to unscrew, even with gloved hands.  Like Nalgene bottles, they are easy to clean.  The only real difference is that they don’t have a piece of plastic connecting the lid to the bottle. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Liberty-Mountain-Relags.jpg "Liberty Mountain Relags - Mom Goes Camping")*The Hunesdorf bottle also called Relags bottle is white with a yellow or white large cap* ### Insulated Thermoses There’s a lot of debate as to whether insulated thermoses and flasks are good for winter hiking.  Some people swear by them because they allow you to keep drinks hot — and a hot drink will do wonders for warming you up while you hike.  Others cite problems with them, like that insulated thermoses tend to be very heavy.  Some have caps that are difficult to remove with gloves. If you are going to use an insulated bottle for hiking, choose one which has a wide mouth and preferably a flip-top for easy access.  A carabiner hook is also useful for attaching the bottle to your pack or jacket. Some of the best thermoses recommended by winter hikers are: - [Thermos Direct Drink Flask](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004DGJLXE/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B004DGJLXE&linkId=d26ce869199907473249fa766cac1203): 470ml, weighs 10oz, wide mouthed, flip top - [CamelBak Forge Insulated](https://amzn.to/4iFLbPR): 500ml, weighs 12oz, wide mouthed, flip top, - [Thermos insulated bottle](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FJ9DOK/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B000FJ9DOK&linkId=b59287ecb0eb4d1ff988a0eec463606a): 530ml, weighs 11oz, flip top, anti-slip grip on bottle - [Clean Canteen insulated wide](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002VIRP34/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B002VIRP34&linkId=c007e26e4be99bb9df7e8d28d9394194): Various sizes, weighs 10.6oz (weight for 16oz bottle), wide mouth, carabiner hook - [Hydro Flash insulated wide mouth](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F169850%2Fhydro-flask-wide-mouth-vacuum-water-bottle-with-flex-cap-40-fl-oz%3Fcolor%3DTRILLIUM): These come in large sizes up to 64 fl. oz.  They have carabiner hooks and are fairly weight light for their size. ### Water Bladders Some hikers do use water bladders in winter.  The idea is this: - Keep the bladder next to your back. Body heat should prevent it from freezing. - Use an insulator for the bladder (like [this one](https://amzn.to/2Pmq5a2)) and an insulator for the hose (such as [this one](https://amzn.to/2KXtvQc)). - Each time you take a drink, blow into the hose. This ensures all water in the mouthpiece and hose goes back into the bladder so it won’t freeze (hose insulators simply don’t work well enough to prevent the hose/mouthpiece from freezing!) The main issue with this hydration method is **it is almost impossible to fill a water bladder with boiling water without burning yourself or getting wet.** There are some exceptions though, like the [MSR DromLite bladder](https://amzn.to/2Sr8Ar8). It is wide mouth so easier to fill and it can take boiling water. ### Wine Botas (aka Wineskin Bota Bags) While I personally haven’t tried this, some expert-level hikers swear by wine botas.  You can carry the wine bota under your parka next to your chest.  Your body heat keeps it from freezing. One hiker had this tip: Swap the carry strap for nylon webbing with a buckle that goes over your shoulder.  Then you can remove the bota without having to remove your parka. Note: Hikers warn that cheap wine botas should *not* be used, since they might leak. If you are going to go the bota route, pay the money for a good product. ### PET Bottles (Not Recommended) For 3-season hiking and backpacking, thicker PET bottles (the kind that bubbly water and Gatorade come in) are great.  They are very cheap and incredibly lightweight. I’ve heard of people making insulators for PET bottles and bringing them for winter hikes.  However, there is a big problem: **You can’t fill PET bottles with boiling water!** Since you will probably want hot water while hiking in winter, this is a HUGE drawback.  Even if you don’t mind freezing yourself by drinking cold water, you also won’t be able to use the PET bottle for things like a boot warmer. ### Non-Insulated Stainless Steel Bottles (Not recommended) Don’t use a stainless steel water bottle when hiking in very cold weather. The metal can drastically change size when it is hot vs. cold. This means the lid might not fit well, causing it to leak.  The only benefit of having a stainless steel bottle is that you can heat them directly on the fire (without the lid, obviously).  Still doesn’t seem worth it though! ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/3285939403_3de931ce0c_z.jpg "taking a break - Mom Goes Camping")*Taking a hydration break Good thing Nalgene bottles are easy to open with gloves on* ## How to Keep Water from Freezing while Hiking in Winter There are a few solutions for keeping water from freezing while you hike in sub-freezing weather.  Likely, you’ll need to use a combination of these methods. ### 1. Bottle Insulators These are also called “bottle parkas” or “bottle jackets.” You absolutely need a bottle insulator when hiking in very cold temperatures. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/3117767540_1a68cd322a_o.jpg "frozen water in Nalgene bottle - Mom Goes Camping")*Even boiled water will get cold quickly without insulation around the bottle* #### When choosing a water bottle insulator: - **It should insulate the lid of the bottle too.** Otherwise the water around the cap threads can freeze. Unfortunately, most bottle sleeves don’t cover the lid. - **Avoid insulators which have to be unzipped.** This means you’ll have to take your gloves off to access water. - **Get one with a carabiner clip.** So you can clip it to your front backpack straps, where it is easily accessible. #### Recommended Water Bottle Insulators - **[Nalgene 32oz bottle insulator](https://amzn.to/4bO4YZa):** It is one of the only water bottle insulators which also covers the lid.  It zips closed but there is a large tab on the zipper so it’s easier to open with gloves on. - **[Liberty Mountain bottle insulator](https://amzn.to/2L1Ni0Y):** This one fits 32oz Nalgene bottles as well as the Hunesdorf bottles.  The drawstring means it \*might\* fit some narrower bottles too. It doesn’t have a lid so isn’t the best insulator for *really* cold weather. - **[Koverz 24oz and 32oz bottle insulators:](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PXKNH5F/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07PXKNH5F&linkId=be22f2b180f4a06a957da38d82af863c)** These insulator sleeves are designed to fit narrower bottles like Camelbak 24oz bottles as well as 32oz bottles.  They come in cool designs and have a removable carry strap. ![best water bottle insulators](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/best-water-bottle-insulators.jpg "best water bottle insulators - Mom Goes Camping")*L to R Nalgene Liberty Mountain and Koverz bottle insulators* **There are also a lot of ways to make a DIY bottle insulator, such as using:** - Wool sock - Mitten - Metal-coated bubble wrap - Beer cozies - Old foam-cell sleeping pad, cut and taped into shape - Flexible insulation + duct tape for a hinge and Velcro to hold the top and bottom closed ### 2. Carry Water Bottles Near Your Body If you keep water bottles near your body, they will generally stay warm enough not to freeze.  Either keep them right along your back in the pack.  Or put them inside your jacket. Note that in *really* cold weather, even water carried near  your back can freeze.  Put boiling water into the bottles, use an insulator, *and* wrap it before placing it near your back. \*Put any other water bottles that you aren’t drinking from right away in your pack, next to your back, where they won’t freeze. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/40459999164_0d682a2556_k.jpg "carrying water bottle on winter hike - Mom Goes Camping")*See how these smart skiers are carrying their Nalgene bottles on their front straps where they are accessible  If the water isnt accessible you wont drink enough*  ### 3. Store the Bottle Upside Down It might seem counterintuitive, but you should keep your water bottle upside down.  If the bottle is right-side up, then tiny bits of water will be left in the cap threads.  This water will quickly freeze, making it impossible to open your water bottle. However, if you store the bottle upside down, then there will be lots of water sloshing around in the lid.  This takes much longer to freeze. Plus, the sloshing motion will generally prevent freezing. ### 4. Sleeping with Your Water Bottles A lot of people recommend pouring boiling water into your bottle before going to sleep when winter camping.  Then you put the bottle inside your sleeping bag.  This keeps you warm plus prevents the water from freezing. But it is also risky. You need your sleeping bag to keep you *alive*. What if the water bottle leaks or cracks?  Not only will your sleeping bag be wet, but you will be too. Instead, put your water bottle next to your feet on your sleeping mat. Or, take the precaution of putting your hot water bottle in a waterproof sack before you put it in your sleeping bag. **Also Read: [How to Melt Snow for Drinking Water](https://momgoescamping.com/melt-snow-drinking-water/)** **What water bottle do you use when hiking in winter? Does it freeze? Let us know in the comments!** --- ###### Some resources for this article: <https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/water-bottles-for-winter/> <https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/44928/> <https://outdoors.stackexchange.com/questions/766/how-to-carry-water-in-freezing-temperatures> <https://sectionhiker.com/forty-belows-water-bottle-boot-system/> [https://bushcraftusa.com/forum/threads/backpacking-with-a-thermos.182007/,](https://bushcraftusa.com/forum/threads/backpacking-with-a-thermos.182007/) <https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/98874/> ###### Image credits: “[Drinking water](https://www.flickr.com/photos/maggiet/3117767540/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Maggie T](https://www.flickr.com/people/maggiet/) “[IMG\_5012](https://www.flickr.com/photos/javasport/28780702660/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [javasport](https://www.flickr.com/people/javasport/) “[Mt. Ichankoppe ski touring and winter ca](https://www.flickr.com/photos/14degrees/40459999164/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Robert Thomson](https://www.flickr.com/people/14degrees/) “[dolomiti](https://www.flickr.com/photos/massimo_riserbo/26696787658/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Roberto.Trombetta](https://www.flickr.com/people/massimo_riserbo/) “[IMG\_1830](https://www.flickr.com/photos/raidoh/3285939403/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [raidoh](https://www.flickr.com/people/raidoh/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear, Hiking **Tags:** cold, hiking, water bottle, weather, winter --- ### [How to Set Up Your Camp Kitchen (Step-By-Step Instructions with Pictures)](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-kitchen-setup/) **Published:** February 8, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Regardless of whether you make simple freeze-dried foods or gourmet meals on your camping trip, you’ll need a camp kitchen. How you set up your camp kitchen matters! Using these steps will make meal prep and cooking much easier.  They also help you stay organized and avoid problems like insects swarming your camp kitchen area. Here are the steps for setting up your camp kitchen, along with real-life photos of camp kitchens ranging from ultra-simple to glamping setups. ## 1. Where to Put the Camp Kitchen? Before you start setting up, you’ll need to decide where to put your camp kitchen. It should be: - **In low-traffic areas.** Avoid places like in front of the tent, areas where kids are playing or on the path to the bathroom. - **Close to your eating area.** - **On flat ground.** ## 2. Create the Three Stations The three-station setup keeps your camp kitchen organized because equipment has a designated area.  Meal prep and cooking is easier because you don’t have to walk around to get equipment.  There’s less likelihood of spills or toppling pots. **The three stations are:** 1. **Food prep:**Keep your cooler, food bins, knives, cutting boards and other prep supplies here. 2. **Cooking:** Keep your stove here along with spices, cooking oil, and other items you need while cooking. 3. **Serving:** Keep plates and utensils here. Napkins and condiments can go here or at the dining area. ## 3. Don’t Put Your Stove on the Ground **You kitchen should be off the ground.**   Otherwise, you’ll have to hunch over (as seen in the picture below). It’s also a safety hazard to have your stove on the ground! ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/camp-kitchen-on-ground-muddy.jpg "camp kitchen on ground muddy - Mom Goes Camping")*Using a platform also means your equipment is less likely to get muddy as is happening to the campers above* ## 4. Elevate Your Kitchen Since we’ve established putting your stove on the ground is a bad idea, you’ll need to have some sort of surface for it. Your best options are: - **Folding table with metal top:** This is okay if you are making simple meals. The table must be sturdy! - **Picnic table:** This gives you more space and is sturdy, but you will have less room for eating. - **Chuck box:** These are “camp kitchens in a box.” It keeps everything contained and ready to set-up and pack up. - **Camp kitchen stations:** For large groups or gourmet cooking, these give you lots of space for prep and cooking. Some even have sinks! [**See my favorite portable camp kitchens here**](https://momgoescamping.com/best-portable-camping-kitchens/). - **Truck bed kitchen:** You can use the back of a truck bed as your “kitchen.” **Important:** Never put your stove on a plastic bin! It needs to be on a heat-resistant surface. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/camping-cooking-table-2.jpg "camping cooking table 2 - Mom Goes Camping")Kitchen setup on small folding table![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/simple-diy-chuck-box.jpg "simple diy chuck box - Mom Goes Camping")The DIY chuck box below holds all the kitchen equipment inside  You can see more [DIY chuck box designs and pictures](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-chuck-boxes/) here![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/camping-kitchen-setup-picnic-table-4.jpg "camping kitchen setup picnic table 4 - Mom Goes Camping")Camp kitchen on a picnic table![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/camping-cooking-table-3.jpg "camping cooking table 3 - Mom Goes Camping")The camp kitchen above has three separate stations with storage underneath each![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/truck-camp-kitchen.jpg "truck camp kitchen - Mom Goes Camping")Truck bed kitchen setup ## 5. Put Food and Equipment in Storage Containers Insects and wild animals can be a huge problem at campsites.  To keep them out of your kitchen, you need to keep all food and equipment which touches food in storage containers. In bear country, you may be required to keep food in bear-proof bins. Storage containers also help keep food and equipment clean and dry.  This is especially important when camping on windy beaches or in muddy conditions. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/camping-kitchen-setup-picnic-table-1.jpg "camping kitchen setup picnic table 1 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/camping-kitchen-setup-picnic-table-1.jpg)Kitchen equipment is kept in plastic crates When its time to cook just grab the crate from the car[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/long-term-camping-kitchen-2.jpg "long term camping kitchen 2 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/long-term-camping-kitchen-2.jpg)This kitchen setup is for a large family on a long term camping trip  They have a lot of food so it is kept in large animal proof bins ## 6. Designate a Trash Area To keep annoying insects like flies out of your camp kitchen, you’ll need to designate a trash area. The trash area can be a plastic bag hanging off a tree. If you have lots of food waste, then you will want a trash can with a lid to keep insects out. **Tip:** Plan your meal portions so you don’t end up with lots of leftovers and wasted food! ## 7. Create a Dish Washing Station Some campgrounds have dish washing stations.  If not, you’ll need to set up your own using [**portable sink basins**](https://momgoescamping.com/portable-camp-sinks/). If you are limited for space, you can set up the dishwashing station on your kitchen platform after you are done eating.  Otherwise, you will need an additional table. There are also some portable kitchens which have sinks. **Tip:** Do dishes right after eating.  Dirty dishes attract insects.  And it’s hard to wash them after food dries on the plate! **Also read:** [How to wash dishes camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wash-dishes-camping/) [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/long-term-camping-kitchen.jpg "long term camping kitchen - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/long-term-camping-kitchen.jpg)This camp kitchen setup is for a large group They have a separate table just for washing dishes ## 8. Stay Organized The more complicated your meals are, the more kitchen stuff you will have to bring camping – thus making your camp kitchen cluttered and disorganized. A camp kitchen can quickly get disorganized.  Here are some tips for keeping everything organized. - **Put things back!** Make sure everyone puts equipment back in the right station. - **Keep meals simple.** The simpler your meals are, the less space you will need for prep, cooking and serving. - **Streamline the mess kit.** Bring just one cup, bowl, plate and utensil per person. You will need less storage space. - **Don’t underestimate how much kitchen space you need.** Bring extra tables so you have space for each station. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/stove-stand-setup.jpg "Cooking dinner in the Tower Campground - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/stove-stand-setup.jpg)This camp kitchen setup is getting cluttered They need to put equipment in designated stations ## 9. Use a Tarp or a Kitchen Tent Cooking in the rain or blaring sun isn’t exactly fun, so consider setting up a tarp shelter over your kitchen.  If bugs are an issue, a kitchen tent might be a better idea. **Also read:** - **[Best Kitchen Tents for Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/best-kitchen-tents-camping/)** - **[27 Ways to Set Up a Tarp Shelter](https://momgoescamping.com/tarp-shelters/)** [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/camp-kitchen-setup.jpg "camp kitchen setup - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/camp-kitchen-setup.jpg)The kitchen is protected from sun and rain --- ###### Image credits: “[Camping stove](https://www.flickr.com/photos/ginja_andy/2790252198/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [@andymatthews](https://www.flickr.com/people/ginja_andy/), “[Camp Cooking](https://www.flickr.com/photos/rhook/2762327396/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [rahook2000](https://www.flickr.com/people/rhook/), “[Breakfast](https://www.flickr.com/photos/heathzib/4849492637/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [heathzib](https://www.flickr.com/people/heathzib/), “[Camp setup](https://www.flickr.com/photos/andrewmalone/5163270988/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [andrewmalone](https://www.flickr.com/people/andrewmalone/), “[Camping setup. 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Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Food **Tags:** cooking, kitchen --- ### [How to Keep Your Feet Dry Hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/keep-feet-dry-hiking/) **Published:** December 4, 2019 **Author:** Diane **Content:** You can wear waterproof jackets and pants to keep your *body* dry, but keeping your feet dry while hiking in the rain is much trickier.  And, once your feet get wet, you’re much more likely to get blisters and other damage. Here’s what you can do to keep your feet dry during rainy hikes, as well as when to admit defeat and just protect your feet from wetness instead. ## How to Keep Your Feet Dry ### 1. Waterproof Your Boots Contrary to what manufacturers imply, there’s no such thing as completely waterproof boots.  You actually wouldn’t want to wear a completely waterproof boot: It wouldn’t be breathable and you’re feet would get sweaty (and thus wet from the inside instead of out!). However, there are some boots which strike a good balance between breathability and waterproofness.   You’ve got three main choices: #### Leather with a Water-Resistant Coating While a pain to break in, leather is naturally water-resistant and very durable.  Many leather hiking boots are now treated with a water-resistant coating to prevent them from absorbing water.  You still won’t want to submerge them in water (they take forever to dry!), but they’ll handle a light-to-moderate rain well enough. You can also waterproof your existing leather boots. There are products on the market like [Nikwax Leather Waterproofing wax](https://amzn.to/2OPVk08) and [Otter Boot Wax](https://amzn.to/2LBvzPx) that do a great job. #### Waterproof Membranes (Gore-Tex/eVent) In this case, a membrane is added *inside* the boot liner.  The membrane holes are small enough that water can’t get in but water vapor from your sweaty feet can still exit.  In this sense, Gore-Tex or eVent membrane boots actually are waterproof and fairly breathable.  They also dry very quickly which makes them good for backpacking or overnight hikes. However, they aren’t going to keep your feet dry in a major downpour. There are seams in the boots where water can leak in. They are particularly terrible if submerged, such as during stream crossings: the waterproof membrane means that the water has no way of exiting once it enters! #### DIY Boot Waterproofing Don’t want to pay for a new pair of waterproof boots? You can use any of these DIY methods to waterproof your boots. **For Leather Boots:** - **Oil**: Put a small amount on a rag and rub over your boots. Don’t soak the boot in it. Mineral oil, mink oil, and neatsfoot oil are popular options. - **Wax**: Heat up the wax a bit (it should be soft and not liquid) and rub it onto your boots. Leave it to “cure” for at least one day before hiking in the boots. - **Lanolin:** Let it warm up to the point that it becomes a cream. Then apply it to a soft cloth and rub it all over your boot. **For Synthetic Boots:** You’ll have a harder time finding true DIY methods for waterproofing synthetic or fabric boots.  Store-bought products work best and aren’t that expensive. - [Kiwi Boot Waterproofing Sprays](https://amzn.to/360Md2E): This brand makes a lot of great spray-on coatings for synthetic materials. - [Scotchguard Fabric Spray](https://amzn.to/2ONicgN): A lot of people swear by this. Just spray it onto your boots. - [Nikwax Fabric and Leather Proof](https://amzn.to/2EZYczD): This can work on synthetic or leather boots. - [Gear Aid ReviveX Nubuck Suede and Fabric Waterproofing](https://amzn.to/2vrTc7n): Great for boots with a Gore-Tex or eVent lining --- ### 2. Wear Gaiters Gaiters are covers that go over your lower leg and ankles. Sometimes they extend down over your boot laces too. Normally rain would pool down over these areas.  Gaiters will keep rain from flowing into your boots. They also keep the padded ankle area of your boots from getting wet (which usually absorbs rain like a sponge). If you are wearing gaiters to keep your feet dry, then you’ll need to choose gaiters that have: - Multi-layer construction (Water-resistant exterior *and* waterproof membrane lining) - Velcro or storm flap to keep water out of closure - Lace hook - Adjustable stirrup strap Outdoor Research makes some of the best waterproof gaiters for hiking.  You can find them or [here on Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=70ef307260cb814ad3f37cf6c73e4706&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=sporting&keywords=Outdoor%20Research%20gaiters)![](//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&l=ur2&o=1) #### Wear gaiters under or over rain pants? Gaiters should be worn *under* rain pants.  If you were to wear them over your rain pants, the rain would seep in through the gaiter top closure and drip down into your boots. --- ### 3. Use a Waterproof Sock or Membrane There are a lot of companies now that make waterproof seamless socks.  They actually do a great job of keeping your feet dry, even when completely submerged during stream crossings.  Randy Sun is one of the most popular brands ([available here](https://amzn.to/3URtXE3) on Amazon). The tradeoff is that waterproof socks are not breathable. Despite what the manufacturers claim, your feet will end up getting sweaty and thus wet from the inside. #### How to wear waterproof socks: Waterproof socks should be worn *over* a pair of hiking socks.  That means you’ll need to buy a size or two larger than you normally wear. Never wear waterproof socks directly against your skin. --- ### 4. Accept that Your Feet Will Get Wet The above waterproofing methods only work to a certain point.  And the benefits are often outweighed by the lack of breathability. Thus, **many hikers admit defeat and accept the fact that their feet will get wet when hiking**. That doesn’t mean you have to be miserable while hiking.  Rather, it  means that you’ve got to protect your feet from damage caused by maceration or immersion. --- ## Protecting Your Wet Feet from Damage [![crossing a river in boots while hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/river-crossing-boots-wet.jpg "river crossing boots wet - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/river-crossing-boots-wet.jpg) Once you’ve accept that your feet will get wet while hiking, the issue then becomes one of protecting your feet.  Wet feet absorb water and become very sensitive. They are more likely to blister.  Once they dry out, they can end up cracking and bleeding.  Or you might end up with even more serious damage like [trench foot](https://backpackinglight.com/maceration-immersion-foot-and-backpacking/). Instead of trying to keep their feet dry, smart hikers instead take steps to minimize the damage caused by wet feet.  Here are some ways to do that: ### 1. Wear Two Pairs of Hiking Socks As I talk about in this post about [why to wear two pairs of socks](https://momgoescamping.com/wear-two-pairs-socks-prevent-blisters-hiking/), a liner sock is great at preventing blisters. The liner sock (made out of a slippery material like silk) helps wick moisture away from your feet while also preventing friction.  The second sock is your insulating sock. --- ### 2. Choose Quality Hiking Socks You’ve got two material choices when it comes to socks for wet-weather hiking: Merino and synthetics. **Merino wool:** - Wicks moisture away - Comfortable in warm or cool weather - Tends to dry slowly - Holds a lot of water - Not very durable **Synthetics:** - Dry faster - More affordable - Durable - Don’t feel very good on the skin - Smell terrible! - Not very insulating when wet **The best choice?** In most cases, you are best with a blend.  Look for a sock which is approximately 65% Merino and 35% synthetic.  This will give you the benefits of Merino with more durability. --- ### 3. Apply Balm to Your Feet Balm does wonders at keeping too much moisture from getting into your skin. It also protects it from moisture damage. You’ll need to apply balm right before your hike.  Ideally, you also reapply the balm whenever you take a longer pause. Two recommended foot balms for hikers include: - [Joshua Tree Organic Climbing Salve](https://amzn.to/3872Dbu) - [Badger Foot Balm](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006H9KCRE/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B006H9KCRE&linkId=dc957f288c8fa9867a44c28266025165) --- ### 4. Choose Trail Runners Instead of Boots Trail runners are becoming much more popular with hikers, especially thru-hikers.  While they don’t provide nearly as much protection as boots (especially against snakes and twisted ankles), they are much more comfortable to wear when wet.  The flexible fabric means that they won’t damage your feet as much. They also dry much faster. If you are going to be doing a lot of stream crossings (and don’t want to take off your boots each time), then trail runners are the way to go. --- ### 5. Take Off Shoes and Socks during Longer Breaks Yes, this is a pain but it will help your feet dry out a bit so they are less likely to get damaged by the wetness.  However, it really does suck to put wet socks and shoes back on! --- ### 6. Put on Waterproof Socks Once You’re At Camp I always bring a lightweight pair of sandals to wear at camp on my backpacking trips.  But, if it’s really wet outside, I have to stay in my boots. A solution is to bring a pair of waterproof socks. The waterproof socks protect your feet from the wet boots.  Since you are done hiking for the day, the lack of breathability isn’t such an issue. **Any other tips you can add about keeping your feet dry and comfortable while hiking? Let us know in the comments!** --- Some resources for this article: <https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/shoe-and-foot-strategies-when-walking-while-it-is-raining-and-wet.54565/> <https://www.oregonhikers.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23446&start=10> <https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/3tib5w/darn_tough_socks_cause_wet_feet/> <https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/44157/> <https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/79301/> <https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/79301/> <https://besthiking.net/hiking-boots-vs-hiking-shoes-vs-trail-runners/> Image credits: “[Wet boots](https://www.flickr.com/photos/kathrin_marks/3466361727/)”  ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Kathrin Marks](https://www.flickr.com/people/kathrin_marks/) “[Rod river crossing](https://www.flickr.com/photos/taspicsvns/3416333177/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [In Memoriam: VernsPics](https://www.flickr.com/people/taspicsvns/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking **Tags:** fall, rain, spring --- ### [How to Go Camping with a Baby](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-with-baby/) **Published:** December 7, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** My daughter was a 3-month old infant the first time we took her camping.  After that, we did many other family camping trips and even a few backpacking trips. In some ways, camping with a baby is easier than staying at home with a baby.  But, of course, there are a lot of things which can make or break your trip. If you are planning a tent camping trip with a baby, here’s what you need to know to make sure you *and* your baby have a great experience. **Jump to:** - [Planning](#planning) - [Sleep Setup](#sleep-setup) - [Baby Camping Gear](#gear) - [Dealing with Bad Weather](#weather) - [Feeding at Baby at Camp](#feeding) - [Hygiene and Diapering](#hygiene-diapering) - [Baby-Friendly Camping Activities](#activities) - [Safety](#safety) \[sta\_anchor id=”planning” /\] ## Planning a Camping Trip with a Baby ### How Soon Can You Take a Baby Camping? There aren’t any rules about when you can take a baby camping; even newborns can safely go on camping trips.  So, the real question isn’t whether *your baby* is ready but rather when *you* feel ready. Becoming a parent can be scary and overwhelming. **Wait until you feel like you’d “gotten the hang of this parenting thing” before taking your baby camping.** You don’t want to have to figure out the ins-and-outs of bathing a baby, co-sleeping, diapering, etc. while on unfamiliar terrain. You’ll be stressed, worried, and won’t have a good time. Babies are very good at picking up on their parents’ mood: If you are calm and relaxed while camping, then your baby will handle the new environment well too. **Note: Camping with a Newborn vs. Older Baby** It’s actually easiest to camp with a baby from around 2 months to up to around 6 months. In this period, your baby sleeps a lot and is probably content to be pushed in the stroller or walked in a carrier all day.  If you are breastfeeding, you don’t even have to worry about food or bottles. With older babies (6+ months), camping gets more complicated. You have to worry about bringing baby food and dealing with grosser diapers.  Once babies start crawling, then you have to constantly keep an eye on them so they don’t wander off. ![baby in tent and sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/baby-lidi-in-tent.jpg "baby lidi in tent - Mom Goes Camping")My daughter at 13 months I found it easier to camp with her at 3 months than when she was this active ### Where to Go Camping with a Baby? Even if you are used to backcountry camping, you will want to go somewher easy for your first camping trip with your baby. By “easy,” I mean somewhere with these features: - **Close to home.** You won’t have to deal with a long car ride and can easily call it quits if things don’t go well. - **Isn’t crowded.** Avoid popular places like the Grand Canyon and Smokey Mountain. - **Easy terrain and climate.** I.e. not the top of a mountain or in the desert. - **No major safety hazards.** Like nearby water features or is in bear country. - **Stores nearby.** If you forget something, you can easily go pick it up. ### Choosing a Baby-Friendly Campground - **Make sure it has the right amenities:**Potable water, hot water, bathrooms, trash cans, and electricity hookups make camping with a baby easier. - **Reserve campsites far from others:** This way you won’t have to worry about bothering other campers. - **Call the campground:** Always call the campground before making a reservation. Let them know that you are bringing a baby and ask if there’s anything you should know. ### **Pro Tip: Stay At Least Two Nights** All parents agree that the first night camping with a baby is the hardest.  By the second night, things are easier: everything is unpacked,  you’ve figured out the sleeping situation, and are less stressed. So, ironically, if you try to do a “test run” by only camping one night, you might actually have a bad experience. \[sta\_anchor id=”sleep-setup” /\] ## Sleep Setup For most parents, the scariest part of camping with a baby is how they will sleep in the tent. Let’s be clear: if you are the type of person who already doesn’t enjoy sleeping in a tent, it’s probably not going to be easier with a baby! However, it doesn’t have to be miserable. My baby actually slept *better* in the tent than at home, probably because she got so tired out from being in nature all day.  It probably helped that I’m generally a nicer, calmer person when I’m in nature and my positive vibes likely calmed her down too 🙂 **For detailed info and tips, read [how to sleep in a tent with a baby](https://momgoescamping.com/sleep-tent-with-baby/).** ### Have the Right Sleep Gear The key to sleeping well with your baby is to have the right gear for your baby.  At the very least, your baby will need: - **[Baby sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/best-baby-sleeping-bags-camping/)** - **[Sleeping pad](https://momgoescamping.com/baby-sleeping-pads-camping/) or** [**portable baby camping bed**](https://momgoescamping.com/baby-camping-beds/) - **Breathable pajamas:** So your baby stays warm but doesn’t get sweaty. [Merino wool PJs](https://momgoescamping.com/best-camping-pajamas-for-kids/) are great. - **Plan for accidents:** Such as putting a waterproof liner inside the sleeping bag or bringing a backup sleeping bag in case a diaper explosion occurs. You’ll probably also want a larger tent.  This makes it easier to do nighttime feedings, changes and get your crying baby back to sleep.  And, while some parents do have success with this, it’s generally [not a good idea to co-sleep with your baby in the same sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/co-sleeping-baby-camping/). ![Brica portable baby bassinet for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/brica-travel-bed-camping.jpg "brica travel bed camping - Mom Goes Camping")A portable bassinet like [this one from Bricca](https://amzn.to/2J0gqEX) is great for camping with newborns since it keeps them contained in the tent and also keeps mosquitos off of them ### Keep the Tent Organized Keeping your tent organized will make sleeping much easier.  You will be able to find bottles/diapers/etc easy, even with the headlamp. Speaking of which, you’ll be able to find the headlamp! Staying organized is also a matter of safety.  You don’t want your baby pulling something from the messy tent over her head while she sleeps.  Nor do you want her to put something dangerous in her mouth… Of course, this is easier said than done.  Try to go over in your mind everything you might need to do while sleeping in the tent with your baby.  Then put needed items nearby or adjust the layout. [![Pack n Play for camping with a baby](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/camping-with-baby-travelmadmum.jpg "camping with baby travelmadmum - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/camping-with-baby-travelmadmum.jpg)*An incredibly organized tent Image courtesy of  [Travel Mad Mum](https://travelmadmum.com/camping-baby/)* ### Don’t Forget about Nap Setup Babies spend a lot of the day sleeping, so you also need to plan where your baby will nap during the day.  Napping in the tent usually isn’t ideal since it can get really hot inside. Ideally, the napping place is elevated off the ground.  While you can put your newborn on a sleeping pad on the ground, it is generally not a good idea.   There’s no way to keep insects off of her and you’ll have to worry about other campers tripping over your baby. **Good solutions are:** - **Stroller:** This is what worked for my family. We got a stroller that could handle rough terrain. Our daughter would fall asleep in it almost instantly. - **Portable crib with stable legs:** Most portable cribs aren’t good for camping because they could easily topple over on uneven terrain.  Some people use pack n’ plays, but I found it difficult to get sleeping newborn in/out. **Note: Carriers are NOT for sleeping!** Don’t make the mistake of thinking your newborn will sleep in the carrier for the entire camping trip.  You will get exhausted from constantly having your baby strapped to your chest, not to mention find it difficult to do things like eat or go to the bathroom.   Bring somewhere to put your baby down! [![newborn sleeping in stroller](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/newborn-sleeping-in-stroller.jpg "newborn sleeping in stroller - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/newborn-sleeping-in-stroller.jpg)My baby sleeping in the stroller Its great to have somewhere safe to put her for naps ### Dealing with Nighttime Crying Unless you have some miracle baby,  your child will wake up crying at night. This is stressful enough at home, but even worse when you’ve got to worry about your baby’s screams waking up the entire campground. While most campers are sympathetic, some campers will be annoyed by your baby’s crying.  As one woman said, *“As a mum of twins I’m not unsympathetic to the demands of young children but don’t think everyone else should have to bear the noise during their relaxing break.”* Some solutions are to: - Go camping during the low-season when it’s less crowded - Request a campsite far away from others - Go primitive camping instead so there aren’t any other campers around For more, read: [Is It Rude to Bring a Baby Camping? ](https://momgoescamping.com/is-it-rude-to-camp-with-a-baby/) \[sta\_anchor id=”gear” /\] ## Additional Gear In addition to sleep gear, you may want to bring some additional gear to make camping with a baby easier.  The main ones are: - **Portable playpen:** This is especially useful for crawling babies so you don’t have to worry about them crawling away while you do camp chores. It’s also a good place for naps. - **Baby camping chair:** Also useful for older babies, a chair means you’ll be able to feed your baby easier and have somewhere for her to sit and play. See these [best baby camping chairs](https://momgoescamping.com/the-only-baby-camping-chairs-worth-buying/). - **Waterproof picnic blankets or large pads:** This gives you somewhere to put your crawling baby down to play, even if the ground is muddy or wet. ![baby in a portable play pen while camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/2819537185_829605e7db_c.jpg "baby in a portable play pen while camping - Mom Goes Camping")A portable play pen gives you somewhere safe to put your baby while doing camp chores **Worried you’ll forget something? See this [printable baby camping gear checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/baby-camping-checklist-printable/).** ### Stroller or Baby Carrier – Know Which Makes More Sense Camping with a baby means you’ll need to traverse tough terrain. Your normal stroller might not be up for the task and carrying your baby the entire time simply isn’t safe or practical. Hiking carriers are one option (and the only option for tough trails).  But strollers are better for longer hikes on accessible trails.  You’ll spare your back and, if your baby falls asleep in the stroller, you get to take a break. My family actually brings *both* a baby carrier and a stroller on some camping trips. This gives us more flexibility. **For more, read:** - [Strollers vs. Carriers for Hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/stroller-vs-hiking-carrier/) - [Tips for Using Hiking Carriers](https://momgoescamping.com/soft-vs-frame-backpack-hiking-carrier/) - [Best All-Terrain Strollers](https://momgoescamping.com/all-terrain-strollers-hiking/) [![trekking stroller for hiking with a baby](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/2478882377_1508ab1b30_c.jpg "trekking stroller for hiking with a baby - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/2478882377_1508ab1b30_c.jpg) ###  Test All Gear Before Your Trip As with all camping gear, you should always test your baby gear *before* your trip.  This will get your baby used to the gear.  It also ensures you know how to use the gear so you aren’t fiddling with carrier straps at trail base or trying to figure out how to open your baby’s portable crib. It is good practice to test out all gear before any camping trip.  But this is even more important when camping with a baby.  You’ll want to take your baby for a walk in the carrier, get her in the sleeping bag, and prepare formula using your camp stove. Even test out new diapers you will be using. I learned this the hard way. My daughter used cloth diapers at home but we decided to use disposables when traveling.  The brand of disposables we got ended up being terrible and immediately resulted in a poop explosion.  This could have been avoided had I tested those diapers at home first. ![baby sleeping in her hiking carrier at home while testing gear](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/302923610_e57c82c6a4_c.jpg "baby sleeping in her hiking carrier - Mom Goes Camping")Getting used to the carrier before a camping trip ### Don’t Forget Items for YOUR Comfort It’s easy to overthink everything your baby needs for the camping trip but forget about your needs.  Bring things to make your life easier on the trip so you don’t end up exhausted from sleepless nights or breastfeeding in awkward positions.   Some comfort items to consider are: - Breastfeeding chair for inside and outside the tent - Easy, instant meals and convenience foods - A better sleeping mat and pillow - Hammock ![mom with babies in comfortable chair while camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/5487235617_859827c13e_c.jpg "mom with babies in comfortable chair while camping - Mom Goes Camping")This chair makes breastfeeding at camp easier than sitting on an uncomfortable picnic table bench or wobbly camp chair \[sta\_anchor id=”weather” /\] ## Weather If you aren’t prepared, bad weather can absolutely ruin your camping trip with your baby.  Here’s what you need to handle rain, mud, and heat. New to camping? Then read [How to Camp in the Rain](https://momgoescamping.com/what-to-do-when-it-rains-when-camping/) and [Dealing with Extreme Heat when Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-hot-temperatures/). ### A Waterproof Suit Is Essential Even if it isn’t supposed to rain on your camping trip, you will want a waterproof suit for your baby.  This will allow you to put your baby on the ground without worrying that all of their clothes will end up dirty. It also keeps them completely dry, which means they will stay warm. **Also read: [Best Rain Suits for Crawling Babies](https://momgoescamping.com/baby-rain-suits/)**[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/insulated-rain-suit.jpg "insulated rain suit - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/insulated-rain-suit.jpg) ### Bring Something for Sitting on the Ground Have a big picnic blanket or mat for at camp.  Then your baby can sit on the ground even if it’s wet, rocky, or cold. This will help your baby get some exercise so she hopefully sleeps better. I also bring a foam sleeping mat with me on hikes so we have somewhere to put the baby down when we stop for breaks.  The mat also doubles as a changing pad. When you stop for breaks, spread out the blanket and let your baby wriggle/crawl around.  This will help her get some exercise so she sleeps better! [![sitting on a picnic blanket while camping with babies](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/8005394467_d7f4acffe5_c.jpg "sitting on a picnic blanket while camping with babies - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/8005394467_d7f4acffe5_c.jpg) ### A Sun/Rain Shelter You can buy a kitchen tent or other camp shelter, but tarps are a good cheaper alternative. In hot weather, it will give you a shady place for playing or naps.  In rainy weather, it will keep you dry.  You can also park the stroller under the tarp shelter to keep it free of bird poop! **Also read: [27 Ways to Set Up a Tarp Shelter](https://momgoescamping.com/tarp-shelters/)**[![tarp shelter while camping with babies](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/698335609_379cdd16b0_c.jpg "tarp shelter while camping with babies - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/698335609_379cdd16b0_c.jpg) \[sta\_anchor id=”feeding” /\] ## Feeding a Baby while Camping ### Bottle Feeding a Baby at Camp - **Choose a campground with potable water.** Then you won’t have to treat the water before making formula each time. If you are worried about the cleanliness of the water, then bring your own water for formula. - **For longer trips, also choose a campground with a dishwashing station.** This will make your life easier when it’s time to wash all of those bottles. - **Prepare water the night before.** Boil a kettle of water before bed and put it in an insulated flask. By morning feeding time, it will be the perfect temperature. - **Use disposable bottle inserts.** While I hate disposables, these do make camping with a newborn easier. You still have to clean the nipples but won’t have to clean bottles. - **Bring LOTS of nipples and bottles.** Just rinse them after each feeding. Then you can clean them all at once. ### Solid Foods Once your baby starts eating solid foods, things can get a bit more complicated. It’s hard to make your own baby food while at camp.  If you have electricity at the campsite, you can get a plug-in cooler for storing homemade baby food. Otherwise, the easiest solution is to just bring pre-made baby food.  Try to choose baby food which comes in pouches instead of jars as it’s easier to transport and makes less trash. **Pro Tip:** Plan simple meals for the rest of your family too. Otherwise you’ll spend an annoying amount of time on food prep and cleanup. \[sta\_anchor id=”hygiene-diapering” /\] ## Hygiene and Diapering at Camp ### Use Disposable Diapers, Ideally, you should use the same diapering system that you use at home when camping with a baby.  However, if you use cloth diapers and are going on a camping trip longer than 3 days, it’s probably better to switch to disposables.  Otherwise, you’ll have store stinky diapers at camp, not to mention drive home with them. ### Bring a Diaper Pail Bear in mind that dirty diapers can attract insects or even animals to your campsite.  It’s nice to bring a small trash can with a lid (or bucket with a lid) to use as a diaper pail. Then you will only need to dump this trash can once per day instead of trekking to the campground trash bins after each diaper bin. ### Avoid Scented Items A lot of baby items have perfumes in them. Heck, even many diapers are scented.  These scents can attract insects and create a major nuisance.   Only bring unscented baby items camping.  And be sure to test any new items on your baby before your trip in case an allergic reaction occurs. ### Buckets Make Great Baby Baths On short camping trips, you can probably skip bath time completely. Just be sure to use a big smock during mealtimes and put your baby in a rain suit if it’s muddy. You can always wipe your baby down with wet wipes if she gets really dirty. If you do need to give your baby a bath, then buckets work (which can also serve as your [camp sink](https://momgoescamping.com/portable-camp-sinks/)).  Be prepared to haul water from the camp spigot and maybe even have to heat some water on the camp stove.  You’ll feel like you are in Little House on the Prairie. **Also read: [How to Give a Baby a Bath when Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/give-baby-bath-camping/)**[![baby taking a bath in a bucket while camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/8745801741_cb03b53214_c.jpg "baby taking a bath in a bucket while camping - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/8745801741_cb03b53214_c.jpg) \[sta\_anchor id=”activities” /\] ## Activities If you are used to doing activities like intense hikes, canoeing or mountain biking while camping, you’ll have to change things significantly now that you have a baby with you. That doesn’t mean you can’t thoroughly enjoy the outdoors though. Here are some tips to make sure you enjoy activities even with a baby in tow: - **Don’t Be Overly Ambitious:** It might seem doable to take a scenic drive, hit up the visitor’s center *and* go for a short hike in one day.  But more than one activity per day is generally too much with a baby.   You will end up tired and won’t thoroughly enjoy the activities.  So take it easy on yourself! - **Avoid Guided Tours:** Unless you splurge on a private tour, guided tours aren’t great for babies.  The other members of the group won’t be thrilled that you brought a baby along.  You will feel rushed when you have to stop for feedings or diaper changes.  Don’t do this to yourself! - **Take Turns with Your Partner:** Make a list of activities you really want to do on the trip. Have your partner do the same.   Then make a plan so one person watches the baby while the other does the activity. - **Choose a Campsite which Won’t Be “Boring”:** What counts as “boring” depends on the type of camping you do.  Personally, I can stare at a pristine lake or mountain all day long without getting bored.  So, I almost always choose to go wild camping at some beautiful secluded spot. It’s so gorgeous that I don’t need to do any activities. Other parents will have more fun at a developed campground with organized activities and other campers to socialize with. ### Baby-Friendly Camping Activities - **Hiking:** Hiking is the most obvious activity to do with your baby while camping.  Yes, it can be a bit intimidating at first.  For tips, read [How to Go Hiking with a Baby](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-with-baby/) - **Bird watching:** Birding is the perfect activity to do while your baby sleeps.  Park your baby’s stroller somewhere nice and quiet, or put her down on a pad to take a nap.  Then pull out your binoculars and bird ID book and see how many you can spot. - **Plant Idenitifcation:** When hiking with a baby, you will likely need to go much slower than you are used to.  To make the hike more interesting, bring along a plant book.  I started with learning wild edibles and their poisonous lookalikes.  By the time my kid was 1 year old, I could forage us a salad for camp dinner. 🙂 - **Biking:** Babies can usually start traveling in bike trailers from around 9 to 12 months old.  You’ll want a really good bike trailer with safety features like rollover protection. Some, like the Thule Chariot, can even double as a hiking stroller.   Depending on where you go camping, you might even be able to rent a bike trailer for your baby. - **Scenic drives:** Plan your scenic drives around naptimes so your baby will sleep in the car.  And make sure to be somewhere baby-friendly when the drive is over and your baby is scheduled to wake up. - **Geocaching:** Geocaching is basically a scavenger hunt for adults.  It’s a fun activity to do with a baby because you can do it at your own pace. - **Stargazing:** When baby goes to bed, get out the telescope and start looking at the stars.  There are some cool apps for helping to identify stars, planets and constellations. \[sta\_anchor id=”safety” /\] ## Safety Keeping your baby safe while camping requires some planning.  The main things you’ll need to plan for are: ### Bees, Mosquitoes, Ticks and Other Bugs Bug spray isn’t safe for newborns and most natural repellents don’t work that well.  So, the only good way to keep bugs off your newborn is to use mosquito netting.  Some strollers and portable cribs come with built-in bug screens.  I just bought some cheap netting and used giant binder clips to hang it over the stroller. **Also read: [Baby-safe bug spray](https://momgoescamping.com/best-baby-safe-mosquito-repellents-camping/) and [How to Remove a Tick](https://momgoescamping.com/tick-removal-tools-humans/)** ### **Sunburn** Babies’ skin is more sensitive to sunlight than adults’ skin. Ask for a campground with shade or set up a shady area using a tarp.  Keep your baby’s skin covered in UV-blocking clothing and use a wide hat. ### **Choking Hazards** Anytime your baby is within reach of the ground (laying on a blanket, sitting in a low chair…), she might grab items from the ground and put them in her mouth. Either keep your baby high enough off the ground that she can’t reach items or be sure to sweep away any choking hazards before putting her down. [![baby in nature camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/DSCF1202.jpg "DSCF1202 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/DSCF1202.jpg)*My baby about to eat a leaf on one camping trip This is why you need to keep choking hazards out of their reach* ### It’s Okay to Use a Baby Leash I used to scorn parents who put their babies on leashes.  Now I’m one of them (sorry to all the parents I gave dirty looks to!). The harness leash means we could let our 1-year-old daughter walk on hikes by herself safely. I can actually zone out a bit and enjoy the nature without worrying that she will wander off or fall into a patch of stinging nettles because I looked away for a second. ### Pro Tip: Have an Exit Plan I don’t know too many parents who actually used their exit plans, but simply having one makes camping with a newborn less stressful.  Here are some examples of exit plans: - **Camping near home:** Then you can just drive home if you are having a miserable time. - **Hotel:** Keep a list of hotels which are nearby and can go to. - **Campgrounds which also have rental cabins:** In case sleeping in a tent isn’t going well, you can just switch to the cabin. Check the cabin availability before you go. --- ###### Image credits: “[2017 Think Outside Photo Contest entry](https://www.flickr.com/photos/vastateparksstaff/23725671398/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [vastateparksstaff](https://www.flickr.com/people/vastateparksstaff/) “[DSC02177](https://www.flickr.com/photos/jughead_jones/698335609/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Jug Jones](https://www.flickr.com/people/jughead_jones/), “[Baby goes camping](https://www.flickr.com/photos/santheo/3813787738/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [santheo](https://www.flickr.com/people/santheo/) “[Striking Camping Trip #1](https://www.flickr.com/photos/grahamandsheila/2819537185/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Graham and Sheila](https://www.flickr.com/people/grahamandsheila/) “[IMG\_6689](https://www.flickr.com/photos/jayndori/5487235617/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [jayndori](https://www.flickr.com/people/jayndori/) “[Ready for Adventure!](https://www.flickr.com/photos/45777632@N06/10055547054/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [D. 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Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** babies --- ### [Best Baby-Safe Mosquito Repellents for Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/best-baby-safe-mosquito-repellents-camping/) **Published:** February 28, 2019 **Author:** Diane **Content:** When I first started [camping with my baby](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-with-baby-checklist/), the thing that worried me most wasn’t the weather.  Or even whether she’d end up eating lots of dirt (hey, it boosts immunity, right! 😉  What did worry me was how I’d keep all those friggin’ mosquitoes off of her.  Thus began my search for baby-safe mosquito repellents. **Jump to:** - [**Types of Baby-Safe Mosquito Repellents**](#types) - [**Physical Insect Barriers**](#physical) - [**DEET and Picaradin Repellents**](#deet) - [**Natural and Organic Mosquito Repellents**](#natural) - [**Essential Oils**](#essential) - [**Ultrasound Mosquito Repellents**](#ultrasound) ## The Bad News: No Baby-Safe Mosquito Repellent is 100% Effective This shouldn’t come as such a big surprise.  Even mosquito repellents made for adults don’t keep away insects completely (the exception being those with insane amounts of DEET in them).  Obviously all those organic, all-nature mosquito repellents for babies aren’t going to do as good of a job. Why do I say this? I’m not trying to be discouraging.  Rather, it’s so you’ll take a multi-faceted approach to bug control. Instead of relying on just one mosquito repellent for your baby, you’ll probably have to use a combination of products. Like a mesh net over the car seat/bassinet while the baby sleeps + bug spray + essential oils. Oh, and some good news: Young babies (at least mine) seem to handle mosquito bites quite well.  My baby has gotten bit numerous times by mosquitoes on our camping trips, but the bites never seem to make her itchy or cranky.  It’s only once they get a bit older that the itchiness drives them crazy. My 8-year old, for example, whines like crazy about bites. 😮 ## Try Avoiding Mosquitoes Completely Normally mosquitoes aren’t such a big deal for me when I go camping.  Why? Because my older daughter and I always went camping at higher elevations.   That high up, we won’t see a single mosquito. So, if you are planning a family camping trip with your baby, it might be worth it to go a bit further away.  Avoid camping on low-lands near bodies of water like lakes or creeks.  Yes, it might be a pain in the ass to get to the camping spot – but you’ll enjoy nature more when mosquitoes aren’t biting you all over! **Other tips:** - Plan to be “indoors” during dusk when mosquitoes are at their worst. - Remember the camping rule of ALWAYS LEAVE THE TENT DOOR CLOSED. There is nothing worse than sleeping in a tent while one mosquito buzzes around your head all night. \[sta\_anchor id=”types” /\] ## Types of Mosquito Repellents for Babies There are 5 main options for baby-friendly insect repellents.  None of these options is perfect.  So, if you are in an area with tons of sketers, you’ll need to use a combination of these methods. 1. **Physical barriers** 2. **Chemical (DEET and picaradin) insect sprays** 3. **Natural and organic insect sprays/creams (applied to the skin)** 4. **Essential oils (used around the baby)** 5. **Ultrasound repellents** Mosquito repellents which you burn, such as candles, are not recommended around babies.  Likewise, most mosquito bracelets aren’t safe or simply don’t work. \[sta\_anchor id=”physical” /\] ### Option 1: Physical Barriers As any mother in the jungles of South America will tell you, this is the best option.  You make a canopy out of mesh netting and put it wherever your baby will be.  Not only is it effective but, as your child gets older, it gives them the feeling of being in a princess bed. 🙂 There are now plenty of options for mosquito nets for bassinets, cribs, and strollers. If you are camping or going to be spending a lot of time outdoors, you may also want to get a mosquito-proof canopy to hang out in at dusk (when mosquitoes are at their worst). Obviously you can’t stay under a mosquito net all day and night though.  So, for the rest of the time, you’ll need to use one of the other baby-safe mosquito options. **Recommended Products:** **[MiniGz Pop-Up Baby Tent](https://amzn.to/2BP4ALn)** This is good for babies who aren’t crawling yet. Put them inside when napping or when they are calm to keep them out of reach of mosquitoes. **[MekkaPro Large Mosquito Net](https://amzn.to/2Xj6U6l)** Though it requires more time to put up, this mosquito net is great because multiple people can fit in it. That means you can be under it while breastfeeding or playing with the baby. ![](//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&l=am2&o=1&a=B01KKMZRFK) [**Stroller/Car Seat/Play Pen Mosquito Net**](https://amzn.to/2GZTs1I) Here’s a versatile mosquito net that can go over your baby’s car seat, stroller or play pen. It has elastic edges so will fit pretty much anywhere. \[sta\_anchor id=”deet” /\] ### Option 2: DEET and Picaradin Insect Sprays and Creams (applied to skin) There is a lot of controversy as to whether you should use insect spray on babies.  Most effective mosquito sprays/creams contain *N-diethyl-meta-toluamide or diethyltoluamide,* aka DEET. According to the American Academy of Pediatrics, DEET is safe for babies as young as 2 months old – though a lot of pediatrician organizations (such as [this one](https://caringforkids.cps.ca/handouts/safety-and-injury-prevention/insect_repellents)) say not to use it on babies under 6 months old. Likewise, there are also insect sprays which contain picaradin, a DEET alternative available under the brand name of Cutter Advanced. It is newer in the USA and is nearly as effective as DEET.  Both DEET and picaradin work by confusing mosquitoes.  As they come to bite you, they get “blinded” and aren’t sure what to do. The AAP says that picaradin is also safe for babies as young as 2 months. But the AAP has also been wrong or revising its guidelines about a lot of things over the years – such as their [updated guidelines on screen time](https://www.forbes.com/sites/jordanshapiro/2015/09/30/the-american-academy-of-pediatrics-just-changed-their-guidelines-on-kids-and-screen-time/#146fe8a45c40) or [chemicals in food](https://edition.cnn.com/2018/07/23/health/aap-food-additive-chemicals-report/index.html) — which leads many parents to be skeptical of whether DEET and picaradin are actually “safe” like the AAP claims. #### Risks of DEET According to [Scientific American](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-it-true-that-the-deet/), various studies have found that certain people may be sensitive to DEET.  In these people, DEET may cause rashes, skin irritation, headaches, or dizziness. Prolonged exposure could cause behavior changes and even cell death. The [CDC](https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/phs/phs.asp?id=1447&tid=201) also mentions these potential symptoms, but notes that symptoms only occur from ingestion and/or exposure to large amounts of DEET.  And, an [article at Popular Science](https://www.popsci.com/article/science/deet-safe-use) talks about how overblown and downright incorrect the claims of DEET’s health risks are. #### Guidelines for Using DEET Mosquito Repellents on Babies There is no doubt that DEET and picaradin mosquito repellents are the most effective option.  Plus, they also protect against other creepy-crawlies like ticks. Since there are so many diseases which can be transferred by tick bites, many will argue that avoiding tick bites makes any potential risks of DEET well worth it. Obviously, it is up to you to decide whether you want to use a DEET or picaradin bug repellent on your baby. But, if you do, follow these guidelines: - **Spray the repellent onto *your* hands first.** Then rub it onto the baby’s skin. This way the spray won’t get into the air where your baby will breath it in. - **Never apply DEET repellents on your baby’s hands or face.** Babies always put their hands in their mouths and rub their faces frequently, so some of the DEET could end up being ingested. - **Wash your hands after applying DEET.** - **Don’t apply DEET over wounds or irritated skin.** - **Don’t use DEET sunscreen on babies.** Sunscreen needs to be reapplied frequently and DEET should not be reapplied on young babies. Note that DEET bug spray comes as a percentage.  Higher percentages of DEET aren’t more effective; they just last longer. - **Babies 6 months to 2 years old:** Up to 10% DEET once per day. This will protect aginst insects for up to 4 hours. - **Kids older than 2** can use 10% DEET up to 3 times per day. #### **Recommended Product:** [**Cutter All Family Wipes:** ](https://amzn.to/2U2GW56) - **Active ingredient:**15% deet - **Age:** From 2 months and up - **Why?** Wipes are easier to apply on wriggling babies than creams. It contains DEET, so it actually wors. There is nothing to spray, so no risk of DEET getting into the air. - [**Buy here**](https://amzn.to/2U2GW56) \[sta\_anchor id=”natural” /\] ### Option 3: Natural and Organic Insect Sprays/Creams for Babies There are now plenty of natural insect repellents available.  Sorry, but none of these are going to be as effective as one containing DEET.  However, some still do a pretty damn good job of keeping mosquitoes off your baby. The issue is that there are safety concerns even with some of the natural options.  “Natural” is a very generic term and doesn’t always mean safe.  For example, coffee is “natural”…but you won’t see me giving coffee to my baby in a sippy cup. :p So be wary of all those brands of insect sprays touting themselves as “natural.”  This doesn’t always mean safe.  And some ingredients which are safe for adults might be problematic for babies. Citronella, for example, is a very common natural mosquito repellent, but some claim that it might irritate a baby’s skin or airways. If you want to find a natural/organic bug spray for babies *which actually works*, look for one registered with the EPA.  This will ensure it is effective. You’ll still have to reapply it a zillion times and it won’t be as good as anything with DEET, but at least it will do something. **Recommended Products:** [**Babyganics Mosquito Repellent**](https://amzn.to/2EpwqzB) This natural mosquito repellent is made from oil.  The idea is that the mosquitoes can’t bite the baby because the oil suffocates them.  It is the most popular baby bug spray. - **Ingredients:** Soybean oil, rosemary oil, citronella, geranium, cedar, peppermint, lemon grass oil - **Age:** 6 months and up - **Why?** It is non-greasy and is one of the more-effective natural mosquito repellents - [**Buy Here**](https://amzn.to/2EpwqzB) \[sta\_anchor id=”essential” /\] ### Option 4: Essential Oils Essential oils are usually made by a process called steam distillation.  The process allows for the compounds in the plant to be extracted so they can be suspended in an oil carrier.  You get the active compounds of the plant in a very concentrated form. #### Top Mosquito-Repelling Essential Oils for Babies - Citronella - Peppermint - Eucalyptus - Vanilla - Lavender \*Lemon eucalyptus oil (aka Eucalyptus Citriodora) shouldn’t be used on children under 3 years old. The synthetic version of this is called PMD or p-Menthane-3.8-doil These are NOT the same as regular eucalyptus which is also called Eucalyptus Globulus. #### How to Use Essential Oils As a general rule, essential oils should not be applied directly to babies’ skin (though vanilla and lavender are said to be safe).  Because essential oils are so concentrated, they could cause irritation to the skin. Likewise, there is some concern that citronella oil can irritate babies’ airways.  Many websites warn against using citronella on babies, particularly if the baby has breathing problems like asthma. However, you’ll also note that almost all of the natural/organic insect repellents for babies contain essential oils like citronella and these can safely be applied to the skin.  Being a parent is confusing as hell because everything is simultaneously “safe” and “potentially dangerous”!  My non-expert opinion is that some baby probably had an allergic reaction, and now all doctors have to include a warning to cover their asses. **To use essential oils as a baby mosquito repellent:** - Put the essential oil in a saucer near where the baby is, but safely out of the baby’s reach. - Or put the essential oils on a cotton ball near the baby (out of reach). - Dillute the essential oil in a water bottle and spray a small amount onto the baby’s linens. - Lavender or vanilla oils can be diluted in a baby cream or Vaseline, and then dabbed onto the baby’s skin (avoid eyes, mouth, and hands). **Product Recommendation:[Lavender Essential Oil](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B076Y81RYF/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B076Y81RYF&linkId=e8d550a516ffd304509278e27bd7d3d5)** \[sta\_anchor id=”ultrasound” /\] ### Option 5: Ultrasound Mosquito Repellents Do not use electric mosquito repellents/plug-ins that use chemicals.  These likely contain unsafe ingredients which your baby will then breathe in. Then there are those ultrasound mosquito repellents.  Depending on the brand, manufacturers claim they work in different ways. Some claim that the ultrasound resembles a bat’s cry, thus scaring away mosquitoes.  Other brands simply imply that the sound – which is audible to insects but not to us humans – is annoying to mosquitoes. The problem is that these claims are [complete nonsense](https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-20669080).  Some brands have even been reprimanded by the FTC for false advertising. Likewise, any apps on your phone which claim to emit ultrasound frequencies to chase away mosquitoes are full of crap. **Recommended products? None! These simply don’t work.** --- ###### Resources: https://www.auracacia.com/community/article/3-types-of-eucalyptus-essential-oil <https://www.momjunction.com/articles/is-it-safe-to-use-mosquito-repellents-for-babies_00105822/#gref> <https://www.todaysparent.com/family/family-health/ask-dr-dina-are-insect-repellents-with-deet-safe-for-kids/> Image credit:”There is a baby in that tent (https://www.flickr.com/photos/eccentriccx/9208694965/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [eccentriccx](https://www.flickr.com/people/eccentriccx/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** babies, mosquitoes --- ### [How to Make Camp Coffee: 7 Ways to Brew Coffee while Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-coffee/) **Published:** January 11, 2017 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I love my morning coffee even more when I am camping.  There is literally nothing like sipping a how brew while watching the morning fog lift from the mountains! **TIP**: Always bring a bit extra coffee along while camping.  You can offer it to people you meet at camp or on the trail.  I’ve never had anyone turn down a cup of coffee and it is a great way to make new friends! ## Option 1: Instant Coffee My secret to making good instant coffee while camping is *powdered milk*.  You just need: H20 + Instant Coffee + Powdered Milk + Sugar = Morning buzz I prefer using this method of making camping coffee because it is super quick, requires no extra pot or gadget (weight matters for me!), and I don’t have to clean up any coffee grounds. On the downside, instant coffee tastes somewhat terrible if you’ve been spoiled by espresso. 😉  I’ve heard good things about Starbucks VIA instant coffee though (you can [buy it here](https://amzn.to/2SxWUE1) on Amazon). ## Option 2: Brew in a Filter Method - Put some coffee in a coffee filter - Tie up the filter with some string. - Fill mug with hot water. - Put tied coffee filter into mug. - Let sit until desired strength. Alternatively, you can get something like the [MSR MugMate](http://amzn.to/2hxj2O8).  You put the coffee into the basket, and put it into a mug of hot water. Then you don’t have to use any filters. ![MSR mugmate for camping coffee](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/msr-mugmate.jpg "msr-mugmate - Mom Goes Camping")You can buy the MugMate here ## Option 3: Pour-Over Drippers Several brands make portable drip coffee makers. To use: - You put the dripper over your mug. - Place a filter in the dripper. Some models are filter-less. - Put coffee in the filter. - Pour hot water over the coffee. ![A collapsible coffee drip by Snow Peak - Buy Here](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/pour-over-filter-coffee-method.jpg "pour-over-filter-coffee-method - Mom Goes Camping")A collapsible coffee drip by Snow Peak [Buy Here](http://amzn.to/2iK3bJM)![This silicon collapsible coffee drip is also cool - Buy Here](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/collapsible-coffee-maker-1024x1024.jpg "collapsible-coffee-maker - Mom Goes Camping")This silicon collapsible coffee drip is also cool [Buy Here](http://amzn.to/2iJOd6H)![If you want to skip the coffee filters, then this reusable coffee filter is great. Buy Here](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/reusable-coffee-filter-967x1024.jpg "reusable-coffee-filter - Mom Goes Camping")If you want to skip the coffee filters then this filter less drip coffee maker is great [Buy Here](https://amzn.to/3wz9zQ1) ## Option 4: Percolator Also known as stovetop espresso makers, these have been around for a long time. To use a percolator: - Put water in the bottom part and coffee in the middle part. - Screw on the top part. - Put the percolator on your camping stove. - Wait for the water to boil. It will go upwards and push coffee into the top part. - You’ll know the coffee is done when the bubbling sounds stops. The big pro with this method is that you can make multiple cups at once and don’t need a separate pot for water.  It also tastes way better than drip coffee or brew-in-the-bag coffee! However, traditional percolators are very bulky and heavy.  Narrow ones might not fit on large gas stoves, either. ![Put the percolator on top of the stove or campfire to make the coffee](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/percolator-camping-coffee-2.jpg "percolator-camping-coffee-2 - Mom Goes Camping")Put the percolator on top of the stove or campfire to make the coffee![And the finished percolator coffee!](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/percolator-camping-coffee-3.jpg "percolator-camping-coffee-3 - Mom Goes Camping")And the finished percolator coffee ## Option 5: Portable Stovetop Espresso Machine You’ve gotta love technology when it’s something like the [GSI Outdoors mini expresso machine](https://amzn.to/4bxM5tO).  It basically works the same way that a percolator does, but is more compact. The espresso will come out of the funnel and into your waiting mug. ![camping-espresso](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/camping-espresso.jpg "camping-espresso - Mom Goes Camping") ## Option 6: Camping French Press To use a French press camping: - Put coffee (or tea) grounds in the bottom of the French press. - Add hot water. - Insert the plunger. - Press the plunger down slowly. The plunger pushes all the grounds to the bottom so pure coffee is on the top. - Pour and drink. You can use a normal French press when camping, but there are ones made especially for the outdoors. They are usually made from stainless steel, so there aren’t any glass parts to worry about breaking.  The Jetboil press is designed to work with a Nalgene bottle. ![This is the AeroPress camping French press for making espresso - Buy Here](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/pocket-rocket-coffee.jpg "pocket-rocket-coffee - Mom Goes Camping")The AeroPress coffee maker is similar to a French press but works in reverse [Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0047BIWSK/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B0047BIWSK&linkId=d52572a2a033efe9dfad862f340a64bf)![There is also this cool French press which goes on a Nalgene bottle - Buy Here](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/press-bot-french-press.jpg "press-bot-french-press - Mom Goes Camping")The Jetboil French press which goes on a Nalgene bottle [Buy Here](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fc%2Fcamp-coffee-presses) ## Option 7: Cowboy or Turkish Coffee I live in Serbia and this is the type of coffee that everyone drinks at home.   To make Turkish coffee (aka “cowboy coffee”, you: 1. Boil 1 coffee-cup’s worth of water (add sugar if you wish) 2. Remove boiling water from heat. 3. Add two heaping spoonfuls of coffee, per person. Mix the coffee into the water. 4. Return the water-coffee mixture to the heat. 5. The coffee will start to rise as it boils again. Remove it from the heat right before it boils over.  Make sure you watch the coffee or you will have a big mess everywhere! Note that you need to use coarsely-ground coffee for Turkish coffee.  The grounds will settle to the bottom of the cup as you drink it. You don’t drink these grounds.  Some people even know how to use the grounds to read your fortune! **![turkish-coffee](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/turkish-coffee.jpg "turkish-coffee - Mom Goes Camping")** --- ![how to make camping coffee 7 ways](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/camping-coffee-pin.jpg "camping coffee pin - Mom Goes Camping") ###### Image credits: “[Camping Coffee](https://www.flickr.com/photos/smcgee/233983335/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [smcgee](https://www.flickr.com/people/smcgee/)nalgene press bot (coffee press, https://www.flickr.com/photos/jmcar/214689916/, ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [uosɐɾ McArthur](https://www.flickr.com/people/jmcar/)“[Turkish Coffee – Camping](https://www.flickr.com/photos/85934826@N00/4621870346/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Baha’i Views / Flitzy Phoebie](https://www.flickr.com/people/85934826@N00/)“[Pocket Rocket Coffee](https://www.flickr.com/photos/spyker3292/9174048819/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Jack Amick](https://www.flickr.com/people/spyker3292/)“[camp coffee](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nebarnix/222163199/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [nebarnix](https://www.flickr.com/people/nebarnix/)“[holy nectar](https://www.flickr.com/photos/uncleweed/2777356698/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [Uncleweed](https://www.flickr.com/people/uncleweed/)“[Making the coffee](https://www.flickr.com/photos/maria_keays/3737770285/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Maria Keays](https://www.flickr.com/people/maria_keays/)“[Campground Coffee](https://www.flickr.com/photos/dlanham/5604319542/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [dlanham](https://www.flickr.com/people/dlanham/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Food --- ### [How to Solve Tent Condensation when Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/tent-condensation/) **Published:** November 17, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** As soon as you start [camping in cold weather](https://momgoescamping.com/how-cold-is-too-cold-for-tent-camping/), you are bound to experience condensation in your tent.  If not kept under control, condensation can actually cause serious problems and make your camp experience miserable.  Here’s what you need to know about tent condensation, including how to prevent it and best tents for condensation. ## What Causes Condensation in a Tent? Air inside your tent will be warmer than the air outside. This warm air contains more water than cold air.  When the warm air touches the cooler air on the tent fly, water inside the air is pushed out. It then turns into the droplets of water we call condensation. **Condensation is more likely to occur in these conditions:** - Still weather (no wind) - Cold nights - Wet and rainy conditions Rainy weather is particularly bad for tent condensation.  The rain evaporates into the air where it then cools and increases humidity.  If it is also cold and still weather, some condensation is inevitable. ([1](https://wheretheroadforks.com/how-to-reduce-condensation-in-a-tent/), [2](https://www.quechua.com/how-to-prevent-condensation-in-tents), [3](https://seekoutside.com/blog/how-to-deal-with-tent-condensation/)) ### Sources of Condensation in Tent Anything that releases moisture into the tent will increase condensation.  When camping, the most common sources of moisture are: - **Humid Air:** Especially if it just rained, the high humidity will cause condensation to form in the tent faster. - **Breathing:** Humans produce approximately 15 mL of water per hour while at rest. This amount can increase in very cold temperatures. After an 8 hour sleep, you will have released 120mL (4 fluid oz.) of water into the tent. - **Tent heaters:** Some tent heaters, including gas heaters, release water into the air as they burn fuel. This adds to the moisture problem inside the tent. - **Cooking in vestibule:** Steam from boiling water will be released into the tent and accumulate. \*You should never cook inside your tent because of CO poisoning risk! ([4](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22714078/), [5](https://www.gvwater.vic.gov.au/Portals/0/GV-Water/Documents/Education/Information_Sheet_How_Water_Keeps_You_Healthy.pdf?ver=2019-02-12-101948-683), [6](https://floridachest.com/pulmonary-blog/lung-facts)) #### Is my tent leaking or is it condensation? Tent condensation usually looks like a wet film over the top of your tent. When enough water accumulates, it can drip down the tent walls. By contrast, a tent leak will be isolated to one spot of your tent. They usually occur at seams and only get wet in rainy weather. ### Why Tent Condensation Matters You might not mind a bit of condensation on your tent.  But tent condensation can actually cause a lot of problems if you don’t keep it under control. - **You get colder.** Condensation can cause your sleeping bag to get wet.  The insulation won’t work as well (especially with down sleeping bags) and you can end up getting very cold.  In sub-zero temps, you could end up dangerously cold. - **It’s unpleasant and annoying.** Condensation can make the tent unpleasantly muggy inside.  And it is very hard to get a good night’s sleep when there are drops of condensation raining down on your head. - **Mildew may form.** Mildew forms if you put your tent away without completely drying it.  On backpacking or thru-hiking trips, you’ll have to pack up your wet tent every morning and it won’t ever have time to dry, thus making it likely that mildew will form. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/ice-crystals-from-condensation-min.jpg "ice crystals from condensation-min - Mom Goes Camping")*On very cold nights the condensation will even turn into ice crystals on the tent wall They then rain on you wyhen the morning sun hits them* ## How Do Your Prevent Condensation in a Tent? While some condensation is inevitable in bad conditions, you can mostly keep it under control.  You’ll need to: 1. Ventilate the tent 2. Pitch the tent properly 3. Choose the right campsite 4. Keep your tent dry 5. Don’t share a tent 6. Store gear carefully ### 1. Ventilate The key to preventing condensation in a tent is to ventilation.  You’ll want to open all vents, doors and windows.  Some tents even let you roll up part of the rainfly for ventilation.  If the condensation is really bad in a single-wall tent, then you may even want to open up mesh entrances for better ventilation. Ventilation means that wind will get into your tent, which in turn can make you colder.  Thus, ventilation becomes a careful balance of preventing condensation and trapping warmth. Make sure you **do not rely on your tent for warmth** or you won’t be able to ventilation well. **Also Read: [Is it really warmer in a tent?](https://momgoescamping.com/is-it-warmer-inside-a-tent/)** ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/tent-with-good-ventilation-min.jpg "tent with good ventilation-min - Mom Goes Camping")*The UL Gossamer Gear tent has great ventilation to prevent condensation [Get it here](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=8aa14f51-1fb2-4c30-b785-1c6c0a96cd31&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.garagegrowngear.com%2Fsearch%3Ftype%3Dproduct%26q%3DNOT%2Btag%253A__gift%2BAND%2Bgossamer%2Bgear%2A%26product_type%3D)* ### 2. Pitch Your Tent Properly On nice nights, I’m admittedly a bit lazy when it comes to pitching my tent. But, when I know conditions will likely create condensation, I take the time to stake out every single guyline on the tent. For double-wall tents, fully staking out the tent means good ventilation between the walls.  It also keeps the inner and outer wall from touching. For single wall and double wall tents, make sure the flysheet isn’t touching the tent wall. Condensation forms where these two touch. ### 3. Choose the Right Campsite Where you pitch your tent also matters for preventing condensation.  Try to pitch your tent with these 5 things in mind. - **With Wind Exposure:** Choose an open space where you can get a good breeze.  Orient the vents and doors towards the wind so you can ventilate the tent. - **Under Trees:** Pitching under trees prevents condensation in two ways. First, it keeps your tent cooler during the day so there isn’t as much of a temperature difference at night.  Secondly, the trees actually trap a bit of warmth under them so the air there will be slightly warmer than in an open space. - **On Dry Ground:** Wet ground can contribute to condensation in the tent.  Try to choose a dry place.  Avoid pitching on wet, decaying leaves (even if they are softer than rock). - **Away from Water:** The air near streams, ponds, lakes, and other water sources will be slightly more humid.  The ground is likely wetter too.  This increased humidity can make condensation worse. - **Higher Ground:** Heat rises and cold air will sink.  By pitching your tent on higher ground, there won’t be such a drastic temperature difference between the air inside and outside the tent. - **Avoid dips and depressions:** Such as creek beds or valleys.  These areas collect cold air and are more prone to condensation. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/tent-pitch-on-platform-min.jpg "tent pitch on platform-min - Mom Goes Camping")If a platform is available pitch your tent on it instead of the wet ground ### 4. Keep Your Tent Dry If your tent is wet before you even get in it, the condensation is just going to get worse.  To keep your tent dry: - **Pack a condensation towel:** Use this for wiping wetness off your tent. - **Dry tent during the day:** Avoid packing it until it’s dried. Leave the rainfly open to let it completely air out. - **Tent maintenance:** Make sure you regularly re-seal seams and apply waterproof coating to your tent. This will keep moisture from outside from getting in.  Also check your groundsheet for punctures. ### 5. Don’t share a tent The more people you squeeze into a tent, the warmer it will be.  You’ll also have more moisture from respiration. Someone will probably be pushing on the tent wall, causing condensation to form where they touch. While you are at it, have your dog sleep outside.  If your dog must sleep inside, then be sure the tent is big enough and you dry your dog off first. ### 6. Store Gear Carefully - **Don’t let any gear touch the walls of your tent:** Especially on a two wall tent, condensation will form where the inner wall and rainfly touch. - **Keep wet gear outside:** Moisture from your wet socks, rain jackets, etc. will contribute to condensation in the tent. If wet gear must come inside, then put it in dry sacks. ## Dealing with Tent Condensation In certain conditions, tent condensation is inevitable.  Once it occurs, your biggest concern is staying dry.  You can do that by: ### Choose a Water Resistant Sleeping Bag. Some sleeping bags have water-resistant finishes so won’t get as wet from condensation droplets.  You are also better off with a synthetic sleeping bag; down bags absorb moisture like a sponge and don’t insulate well once wet. ### Use a Waterproof Sleeping Bag Cover You can put a waterproof liner (lik [this ultralight one](https://amzn.to/3SYVSmb)) around your sleeping bag to keep it dry.  For a quick DIY solution, just wrap your rain jacket around the bottom of your sleeping bag.  The feet are what end up getting wet anyway when they accidentally touch the tent walls. ### Wipe the Inside of the Tent Have a towel handy to wipe condensation away from the tent.  Remember to wipe gently or the moisture will soak through the tent wall. ### Use a Tent Dehumidifier Tent dehumidifiers are more popular with people who camp in RVs, vans, or cars.  They are pretty loud and require a power source. ## Best Tent for Condensation No such thing as a condensation proof tent. However, if you know you will be camping in cold or rainy weather, you’ll want to make sure you choose the best tent for condensation.  Here’s what to look for. ### Tent Material and Condensation Breathable tent materials are less likely to have condensation issues.  Most cheap polyester tents aren’t very breathable and condensation builds up easily.  Better tents will be made from newer synthetics with better breathability. Canvas tents are also great for breathability and any condensation which forms usually soaks into the fabric instead of dripping on your  head.  The downside is that they are insanely heavy and take forever to dry. ### Single Wall, Double Wall, Tarp or Bivvy? Double-wall tents are the best choice for preventing condensation.  Condensation still forms but it’s mostly on the outer fly instead of the inner tent.  Single wall tents and tarp tents are usually terrible for condensation, though some models have built-in vents to prevent this.  Bivvy shelters are even worse because they usually have poor ventilation and are very small. ### Lots of Ventilation You can always ventilate through the doors but, if you really want to prevent condensation, make sure your tent has other vents.  Look for: - **Roof vents:** Ideally you should be able to open these from inside - **Bottom vents:** These are great for allowing ventilation without also letting rain inside. - **Two doors:** You’ll be able to get good cross ventilation when you open both doors at once. - **Can unfurl rain fly:** When it’s not raining, you can move the rain fly partically or fully back for more ventilation. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/top-vent-for-tent-condensation.jpg "top vent for tent condensation - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/top-vent-for-tent-condensation.jpg)*Roof tent vent* ### Vertical Walls Steeper walls give you more interior space.  This helps prevent condensation because you are less likely to touch the inner wall fabric. ## Tents with Good Ventilation Below are some examples of tents with good ventilation. ### Gossamer Gear Tarp Tent [![gossamer gear two tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/gossamer-gear-two-tent.jpg "gossamer gear two tent - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/gossamer-gear-two-tent.jpg) Most tarp tents are terrible for condensation but this one has lots of ventilation. It sets up with trekking poles so is insanely light. [See other trekking pole tents here](https://momgoescamping.com/best-trekking-pole-tents/).   Get the tent [here at Garage Grown Gear](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=8aa14f51-1fb2-4c30-b785-1c6c0a96cd31&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.garagegrowngear.com%2Fcollections%2Fultralight-backpacking%2FCategory_Tents-%26-Shelters%20). --- ### Sea to Summit Telos Tent [![sea to summit telos tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/sea-to-summit-telos.jpg "sea to summit telos - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/sea-to-summit-telos.jpg) TheTelos backpacking tent by Sea to Summit was designed to prevent condensation.  The inverted brow pole gives you more interior space and ventilation. There’s also a huge roof vent. I also love that you can pitch the fly first so you [don’t get the inside of the tent wet when pitching in the rain](https://momgoescamping.com/pitch-tent-in-rain-inside-doesnt-get-wet/).  Get the tent [here at REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3D%2Bsea%2Bto%2Bsummit%2Btelos%20). --- ### REI Half Dome Tent [![REI half dome tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/half-dome-tent-rei.jpg "half dome tent rei - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/half-dome-tent-rei.jpg) A lot of REI tents have anti-condensation features.  The popular Half Dome tent has two doors for cross ventilation and top vents plus vertical walls. It comes as a 2P and 3P tent.  Get it [here at REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dhalf%2Bdome%2Btent%20). --- ### REI Co Op Trail Hut Tent ![trail hut tent REI](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/trail-hut-tent-REI.jpg "trail hut tent REI - Mom Goes Camping") With two doors, a fly which can be rolled up and vents integrated into the doors, this is another great tent for preventing condensation. It’s also pretty affordable and comes in 2P and 4P sizes.  Get it [here at REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dtrail%2Bhut%2Btent%20). --- ### Nemo Aurora ![nemo aurora tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/nemo-aurora.jpg "nemo aurora - Mom Goes Camping") Available as a 2P and 3P tent, the Nemo Aurora is a great backpacking tent. It has vents in the fly and two large mesh doors for increased ventilation.  The vertical walls help keep the inner wall dry. Get it [here on Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B083BDTSTX/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B083BDTSTX&linkId=01d24666d659fd3f5a0540e65120a194) or [here on REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dnemo%2Baurora%2Btent%20). How do you deal with tent condensation? Let us know in the comments section below. --- ###### Sources: <https://www.ukcampsite.co.uk/chatter/display_topic_threads.asp?ForumID=32&TopicID=215383&ThreadPage=1>, <https://seatosummit.com/blog/7-ways-to-manage-tent-condensation/> , <https://seatosummit.com/blog/7-ways-to-manage-tent-condensation/> , Image credits: “[Lines](https://www.flickr.com/photos/pong/2857267250/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [rpongsaj](https://www.flickr.com/people/pong/), “[Condensation crystals on my tent](https://www.flickr.com/photos/alanenglish/3513928691/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Al\_HikesAZ](https://www.flickr.com/people/alanenglish/), “IMG\_1057.jpg – https://www.flickr.com/photos/bierdoctor/941217685/” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by BierDoctor, “[Little Rock Pond Tenting Platform](https://www.flickr.com/photos/sectionhikercom/2559331627/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [sectionhiker.com](https://www.flickr.com/people/sectionhikercom/), “[Nemo Losi Storm 3P Tent](https://www.flickr.com/photos/ex_magician/5821529866/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [ex\_magician](https://www.flickr.com/people/ex_magician/), ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** cold, rain, tent --- ### [Dutch Oven Camp Cooking: Complete Instructions for Newbies](https://momgoescamping.com/dutch-oven-camp-cooking/) **Published:** September 16, 2024 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Dutch oven camp cooking isn’t worth it for everyone. If you have to walk into camp or are backpacking, you can forget about it. Likewise, don’t bother with a Dutch oven if you will be away from camp all day or are impatient. But, for those who love slow-cooked food and enjoy the art of stoking coals into glowing embers, **Dutch oven camp cooking is an addiction**. Once you get started, you’ll want to try increasingly complex recipes, or try techniques such as stacking multiple Dutch ovens. For the newly initiated, Dutch oven camp cooking can seem intimidating. Don’t worry. It’s not as complicated as it seems! Here are complete step-by-step instructions about how to cook with a Dutch oven at camp, including basics like the types of coals to use, temperature guides, and which recipes to start with. Don’t have a Dutch oven yet? Read [this guide](https://momgoescamping.com/choose-dutch-oven-campfire-cooking/) to choosing one. ## 1. Choose a Recipe Dutch ovens are very versatile and can be used for almost all cooking methods. However, it’s best to **start with** **wet recipes.** These recipes are more forgiving because even heat distribution isn’t as important, and the ingredients are less likely to burn or stick to the bottom of the Dutch oven.  Most wet recipes are made with simmering/boiling or baking. **Examples of “wet” Dutch oven recipes:** - Stews - Chili - Jambalaya - Dumplings - Pot pie - Casseroles - Cobblers Once you master these recipes, you can go on to other Dutch oven recipes such as pizzas, breads, and seared meats. I recommend [The Camp Dutch Oven Cookbook: Easy 5 Ingredient Recipes](https://amzn.to/3TzJgRN). If you want a cookbook with more pictures and more advanced recipes, then [this cookbook](https://amzn.to/4en7OWc) is good. [![easiest dutch oven recipes for beginners](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/dutch-oven-wet-recipes.jpg "dutch oven wet recipes - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/dutch-oven-wet-recipes.jpg)Stews like this one are fairly foolproof in a Dutch oven[![what to make in a dutch oven](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/dutch-oven-beer-for-simmering.jpg "dutch oven beer for simmering - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/dutch-oven-beer-for-simmering.jpg)Wet doesnt have to mean you add water 🙂 ### Dutch Oven Cooking Methods A Dutch oven can be used for many different cooking methods. It’s important that you understand the difference between these methods because some are better suited for certain types of foods and dishes. The way you arrange the coals also varies depending on the cooking method. \[table id=108 /\] ## 2. Decide Which Type of Coals to Use To cook on a Dutch oven, you need coals. There are three choices for coals: - Coals from fire embers - Charcoal briquettes - Lump hardwood charcoal **Charcoal briquettes are the best choice for beginners** because they are the easiest to use. Most recipes are also written based on the assumption you are using briquettes. ### Coals from Fire Embers To get these coals, you burn down wood on your campfire until it turns into glowing hot embers. This takes quite a while, so you have to start your fire well before you plan on cooking. While this approach means you don’t have to pack charcoal, it is **much harder to control the temperature** because your coals will be different sizes.  The quality and temperature of the embers will vary depending on whether it is hard or softwood. Hardwood embers are better and the heat lasts longer, but most campgrounds only sell softwoods. **Important:** Many campgrounds don’t allow you to bring your own wood because it may contain non-native organisms that could cause an infestation! ### Charcoal Briquettes: These are manufactured using wood byproducts. There are uniform in shape and typically have additives, so they burn at a consistent heat and rate. They are the cheapest option and easier than embers from the fire. The downside is that they can have a chemical smell that gets into your food. ### Lump Hardwood Charcoal: They are made from burnt unprocessed wood. Compared to briquettes, this charcoal is faster to ignite and burns hotter. The downside is that they burn faster, so you may need to replace them when making long-cook recipes. Lump hardwood charcoal is also irregularly shaped, so it’s harder to distribute the heat evenly, and they are the priciest option. ### **Can I Put the Dutch Oven in the Fire?** Yes, you can put your Dutch oven directly in the campfire or hang it over the fire. However, this isn’t recommended. Flames “dance” around a lot, meaning that the heat is inconsistent. You can easily end up burning your food. If you really can’t wait for wood to burn into embers, a better solution is to put the Dutch oven *next to* the campfire. You’ll have to turn it several times to ensure more even cooking (a quarter turn approximately every 10-15 minutes).  The results still won’t be as good as if you use coals, though.  Since the heat next to the fire is lower, it will also take more time to cook than if you use coals. [![cooking directly over campfire with dutch oven](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/dutch-oven-cook-over-fire.jpg "dutch oven cook over fire - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/dutch-oven-cook-over-fire.jpg)Its much harder to control the heat and prevent burning when cooking over an open flame ## 3. Setup Your Cooking Area You will need a place to set up your Dutch oven.  The goals are to allow easy access to the Dutch oven and block it from wind. There are three options: 1. **Fire ring:** This is usually the easiest and safest option when using a Dutch oven at a campground. Unless it is a massive ring, you should *not* have a campfire going while you cook. 2. **Rock wind shelter:** Set up a circle of rocks around the area where you will cook to block the wind. This allows you to use your fire ring for a campfire while cooking. 3. **Table:** You can buy special metal tables for Dutch ovens. They have flaps for blocking wind and allow you to stand up while cooking instead of crouching, but they are pricy and another thing to pack. ## 4. Calculate How Many Coals to Use Most cooking on a Dutch oven is done at 350F. If a recipe doesn’t list a temperature, assume it is 350F. As a general rule, the number of coals you use for **350F is *diameter x 2****.* For example, a 12” Dutch oven would require 24 coals. However, there are several other methods for calculating the number of coals to use with a Dutch oven. These are the most common ones. ### One Briquettes = 15**°**F For a 12” Dutch oven (6 to 8 quarts), one briquette equals approximately 15°F. If using a smaller Dutch oven, one briquette equals ~25°F. If using a larger Dutch oven, one briquette equals ~10°F.  This formula only works for briquettes because fire embers and hardwood lump charcoal burn hotter. ### Rule of 3 This formula works best **for** **wet meals**, such as casseroles or cobblers with lots of fruit. Take the diameter of your Dutch oven. Put +3 coals on top and -3 coals on the bottom.  For a 12” Dutch oven, you would have 15 coals on top and 9 coals on the bottom. ### Rule of 5 The rule of 5 works best **for** **dry, baked recipes**, such as bread or pizza. You take the diameter of your Dutch oven and put +5 coals on the top and -5 coals on the bottom. For a 12” Dutch oven, you’d put 17 coals on top and 7 on the bottom. This distributes the coals so more heat is on the top, and also allows the top to get nice and browned. ### Ring Method Use this method **for** **lump hardwood coal or fire embers.** Because they aren’t uniform in size, the methods above don’t work. Instead, you create a ring of them around the outer edge of your lid and another ring under the Dutch oven (note it’s *under* and not around the bottom!).  This will give you ~350°F.  Remove every other coal and you’ll get 300°F. Add rings inside the ones you made and you’ll get 375°F. **Important:** While these methods are useful, **don’t obsess about temperature.** **Why?** **Because many things affect temperature. Such as:** - **Type of coals** - **Outside temperature** - **Wind** - **Whether you added fresh coals** - **How high your Dutch oven is elevated…** **These factors make it almost impossible to completely control temperature.**  But, as someone who for years used an old oven that didn’t have accurate temperature settings, I can tell you that getting the “exact” temperature doesn’t matter as much as you might think. The food will get cooked. It just might take longer or shorter.  (I’ve since gotten a new oven 😊). ## 5. Prepare Coals Now that you know how many coals you need, you can heat them up. It generally takes briquettes and lump hardwood charcoal 15-20 minutes to fully heat up. If using embers from a campfire for coals, you’ll need to get the fire going *at least* 30 minutes before you start cooking; 45 minutes is even better. You’ll know your coals are ready when they have a thin layer of white ash on them. You should be able to hold your hand near them for just 2-3 seconds. **Pro Tip:** You can always cook food longer, but you can’t un-burn it! If unsure whether you have enough coals or if they are hot enough, opt for lower heat! ## 6. Add Food For frying or searing, you will need to preheat the Dutch oven before adding food.  Otherwise, you typically add the uncooked, cold food to the Dutch oven *before* putting it on the coals. **Pro Tip:** Don’t dump very cold water into a hot Dutch oven. It could cause it to crack. Instead, gradually add the water! ### Do you need to line the Dutch oven? You do not have to line a Dutch oven, and you won’t want to line it for any dish that requires stirring. However, there are three situations where it is recommended: **Cooking multiple courses:** If you want to cook something in the same Dutch oven immediately afterwards, you’ll want to line it. Otherwise, you’ll have to wait for it to cool down and clean it before making the second course. **The recipe is a sugary mess:** For recipes such as for cobblers, upside-down cakes, and pies, lining will make cleanup easier and also make it easier to get the dish out of the Dutch oven without it falling apart. Just get a baking tin that fits inside your Dutch oven. **Pizza:** And other dishes that need to come out of the Dutch oven in one piece.  Otherwise, it may be difficult to remove without the pizza falling apart on  you. **Preventing the bottom of baked goods from burning:** If the bottom of your baked goods keeps burning, switch to baking in a tin instead of directly in the Dutch oven. Put a few stones or balls of tinfoil in the Dutch oven and set the tin on top of these. This allows better air circulation and prevents bottom from burning. If using a deep Dutch oven, it also allows you to move the ingredients closer to the top so the gap isn’t as big. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/dutch-oven-upside-down-fruit-cake.jpg "dutch oven upside down fruit cake - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/dutch-oven-upside-down-fruit-cake.jpg)Definitely line the Dutch oven for messy upside cakes[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/dutch-oven-pizza.jpg "dutch oven pizza - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/dutch-oven-pizza.jpg)Pizza is easier to remove if you line the Dutch oven ## 7. Arrange Coals Depending on the cooking method you chose, you will need to put the coals on top, bottom, or both.  They should be evenly spaced, so each coal is approximately the same distance from each other. **Dutch Oven Coal Distribution:** - Baking (wet recipes, such as casseroles): 2/3 top, 1/3 bottom - Baking (dry recipes, such as bread): ¾ top, ¼ bottom\* - Roasting: ½ top, ½ bottom - Frying and sautéing: All on bottom - Boiling: All on bottom - Stewing and simmering: ¼ on top, ¾ on bottom - Steaming: All on bottom - Searing: All on bottom - Broiling: All on top - Braising: All on bottom, then ¼ on top and ¾ on bottom **Pro Tip:** It is common for hot spots occur with Dutch ovens because coals close to the edge will radiate their heat inwards, making the interior coals hotter. This is why your cake might be done (or burnt!) in the middle but still raw on the edges.   To prevent this when making baked goods, arrange the coals further along the bottom edge. For other cooking methods, the coals can go slightly further inwards. ## 8. Rotate To prevent hot spots and ensure even cooking, especially on dry recipes that don’t involve stirring, you will need to rotate your Dutch oven and its lid. - Rotate every 10 to 15 minutes - First rotate the entire Dutch oven one-quarter turn in one direction. Set it back down on the coals. A wire bail handle makes this easier to do. - Next rotate the lid ¼ turn in the *opposite* A pot lid lifter makes this task easier. ## 9. Maintain Heat When cooking meals that don’t require more than 30-45 minutes, you won’t have to replace your coals. However, for meals that require longer, you will need to replace the coals in order to maintain the heat.  You’ll know they are losing their heat when the coals start getting very white and ashy. Remember that it takes a while for coals to get hot, so you will want to light them *before* you need to replace the current ones. ### How often to Replace Coals? - **Briquettes:** Typical briquettes hold their heat for up to 45 minutes, so you will want to replace them every 30 minutes. - **Hardwood lump charcoal and firewood embers:** These typically only last 30 minutes, so you may need to replace them every 20 minutes. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/dutch-oven-lining-it-for-baking-cake.jpg "dutch oven lining it for baking cake - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/dutch-oven-lining-it-for-baking-cake.jpg)See how ashy and white these coals are They arent very hot anymore ### Gauging Temperature You can point a chef infrared thermometer at your food to determine the temperature. However, pros use the “hand test” to determine temperature. You remove the Dutch oven lid and hold your hand just inside the oven. Then you count how long you can hold your hand there. - 1 second = 500+°F - 2 seconds: 500°F - 3 seconds: 450°F - 4 seconds: 400°F - 5 seconds: 350°F - 6 seconds: 300°F - 7 seconds: 250°F - 8 seconds: 200°F Obviously, some people have a higher heat tolerance than others (I’m a wuss and can’t hold my hand near a 350°F Dutch oven for more than 2 seconds!). But, again, you don’t really need to stress about temperatures. If you *really* want to know the cooking temperature, then use an infrared thermometer with the hand test and write down the results. **Pro Tip: Don’t Peek!** You will lose heat each time you remove the lid of the Dutch oven. So resist the urge to peek. Wait until the food starts emitting delicious aromas until you open it to check doneness. ## 10. Clean Up Once you’ve eaten your food, it’s time to clean the Dutch oven. It isn’t as hard as you might think.  Note that food does tend to stick to a new Dutch oven, even if you’ve seasoned it. The more you use it, the less food will stick. **Cleaning Instructions:** 1. Wait for it to cool a bit. 2. Add some water to the Dutch oven. Don’t add cold water to a hot Dutch oven because it could crack. 3. Put the filled Dutch oven back in or near the fire. 4. Let the water come to a boil. This will help loosen any bits of food stuck to it. You can scrape the insides with a wooden spoon to help it along. 5. Dump the water (follow Leave No Trace guidelines for dumping water!). 6. Once cool enough, scrub the Dutch oven. 7. Rinse.  If there is still a lot of food stuck, you might need to boil again. 8. When you get home, wipe the inside and lid with some oil before storing. 9. Never use soap to clean a Dutch oven! --- ###### Resources for this article: <https://bioresources.cnr.ncsu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/BioRes_11_4_9803_Lee_CYKYK_Combustion_Charac_Compr_Fuel_Torrefied_Wood_Roasting_10335.pdf>, <http://digital.outdoornebraska.gov/nebraskaland-magazine/so-what-do-you-want-to-know-about-dutch-oven-cooking>, <https://reallifegoodfood.umn.edu/kitchen-skills-and-tips/cooking-terms-glossary> ###### Image credits: “[Baker County Tourism – basecampbaker.c](https://www.flickr.com/photos/travelbakercounty/23437576296/)” ([CC BY-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/2.0/)) by [TravelBakerCounty](https://www.flickr.com/people/travelbakercounty/), “[Dutch Oven Take 1: Pizza](https://www.flickr.com/photos/jsalita/14767875230/)” ([CC BY-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/2.0/)) by [jsalita](https://www.flickr.com/people/jsalita/), “[Campfire Cafe 2004 – Upside down Bananna](https://www.flickr.com/photos/okie-boys/957479153/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Okie Boys](https://www.flickr.com/people/okie-boys/), “[Birthday Cake](https://www.flickr.com/photos/goofyat210/3523441885/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [goofyat210](https://www.flickr.com/people/goofyat210/), “[dutch oven](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nolabwork/8219681685/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [nolabwork](https://www.flickr.com/people/nolabwork/), “[Dutch Oven Baking](https://www.flickr.com/photos/sararah/3543012358/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [Sarah Cady](https://www.flickr.com/people/sararah/), “[Camping Food](https://www.flickr.com/photos/99624358@N00/4659739945/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [halseike](https://www.flickr.com/people/99624358@N00/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Food --- ### [Best Tent Fans for Camping: 5 Options Which Actually Work](https://momgoescamping.com/best-tent-fans-for-camping-5-options-which-actually-work/) **Published:** March 29, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Camping in hot weather can be miserable without a fan (it’s a lot easier to deal with cold than heat when camping!).  You’ve basically got five options for tent fans: using a normal portable fan at a campsite with an electrical outlet, USB-powered fans, rechargeable battery fans, battery-powered fans, and jobsite fans. **Top Pick: [Koonie 10,000mAh USB Fan](https://www.amazon.com/10000mAh-Operated-Detachable-360%C2%B0Rotation-Stroller/dp/B088KBMLZ1/?th=1)** This is an all-around good camping fan for small and medium-sized tents. It runs up to 48 hours without electricity and can also be run on a power bank when its battery dies. **Also read: [Tips for Camping in Extremely Hot Temperatures](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-hot-temperatures/)** ## 1. Outlet Fan + Campsite with Electric Hookup If it is going to be very hot and you are car camping at a proper campground (i.e. not primitive camping), it is worth spending the extra fee to have an electric hookup.  Then you’ll be able to use a normal outlet fan.   You’ll also be able to use the electric hookup for other things like your electric food cooler. Alternatively, you might want to invest in a power station so you can plug a fan and other devices in. (Also read: [Best power stations for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/best-power-stations-camping/)) **If you go this route, please remember…** - **You’ll need a VERY LONG extension cord which is RATED FOR OUTDOOR USE.** - **Your tent needs to have an E-port.** A lot of family tents have “e-ports”, which are holes that allow you to run an extension cord into your tent. If your tent doesn’t have one, you’ll need to run the cord through the doorway, which can be a tripping hazard or require you to have an even longer extension cord. - **Fans are LOUD.** This can make it annoying to sleep, especially when the tent is next to your head in an already-cramped tent. Resist the urge to bring your largest, most powerful fan. ## 2. USB-Powered Fans ![Koonie 10000mAh Battery Operated Misting Fan with Clip, 8-Inch Mist Fan for Desk, Detachable Battery, 3 Speeds, 2 Mist Modes with 200ml Tank, 48 Hours Working Time for Home Stroller Office and Outdoor](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/5184nOxl5aS._SL500_.jpg) If you don’t have an electric hookup at  your campsite and only have a small tent, then USB fans are probably your best option.  USB fans have built-in batteries.  This means you can use the fan without any power.  However, they also can be run on a USB source (such as with a power bank or through your laptop).  Some have other power options too, such as being able to run on normal batteries or AC/DC power. USB fans tend to be quieter than outlet fans.  They are definitely more portable, so you don’t have to worry about dragging a massive fan in/out of the tent.   Some even come with tripod stands and little clips so you can hang the fan from the top of your tent. **If you use a USB fan for camping…** - **Pay attention to the built-in battery capacity:** The bigger the capacity, the longer the fan will run on a full charge. - **Each person will probably need their own fan.** USB fans are not very strong.  To get a good breeze in a bigger tent, you will need multiple fans.  Ideally, each person gets their own fan so they can position it however they want. - **Don’t go too cheap.** I got a really cheap USB fan for a July trip to Dubai when my daughter was an infant. The fan was basically worthless because it was so weak.  The cheap Lithium battery also died quickly (yes, battery quality matters). ### **Recommended USB Fans for Camping:** The [Koonie Misting Fan](https://www.amazon.com/10000mAh-Operated-Detachable-360%C2%B0Rotation-Stroller/dp/B088KBMLZ1/?th=1) is a good option.  The 10,000mAh battery lasts 6-48 hours, depending on the mode. It can also act as a power bank to charge your other devices.  The clip makes it easy to attach to your tent roof and you can adjust the fan direction.  It’s a bit pricy though. ## 3. Rechargeale Battery Fans [![Geek Aire Rechargeable Outdoor High Velocity Camping Floor Fan, 16” Portable Battery Operated Fan with Metal Blade for Garage Barn Gym Camp, Cordless Industrial Fan, Camping Gear Accessories](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51Mf7aNMI5L._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/GeekAire-Rechargeable-Velocity-Portable-Industrial/dp/B07MXCDTB9?th=1&linkCode=li3&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=1792e782074c924e9af2044b8d1aaa16&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_il) Like USB fans, rechargeable camping fans have built-in batteries.  The difference is that you usually *cannot* run them off of a USB source (so you can’t run it off of a power bank).  When the battery dies, you’ll need to recharge it before you can use it again.  Recharging is usually through a standard outlet, though some fans can be recharged with your car’s cigarette lighter or other options. While USB fans are more versatile, rechargeable battery fans tend to be larger, stronger and more durable.  If you need a fan to use *outdoors* when camping — especially for cooling multiple people — these are going to be more effective than tiny USB fans. ### Recommended Rechargeable Battery Fan: The [Geek Aire fan](https://amzn.to/3KilCVR) is an awesome option. It has a 15,000mAh built-in battery which can run for 2-18 hours depending on the setting.  It is IPX4, which means it is waterproof enough to handle some light showers. The Geek Aire camping fan is also one of the only ones which has metal blades and a really durable construction.  It’s definitely a pricier camping fan though! ## 4. Battery Operated Fans These types of fans only run on batteries. I personally *don’t* recommend using a battery-powered fan for camping.  Most of them use D batteries.   The fan will need to use a LOT of D batteries to give you any sort of airflow – which means the fan will be stupidly heavy.  Guess what? It’s going to be hard to hang a heavy fan from the top of your tent!  Expect 8 D batteries to last approximately two nights of camping. Rechargeable D batteries are expensive and you probably don’t have any other gadgets which use them.  Your probably better off using a USB camping fan.  If you really want one which runs on batteries, then try to find one which uses AA batteries instead. This [O2COOL Treva stroller fan](https://amzn.to/3nyJwDG) is an okay option.  It uses 4 AA batteries instead of D batteries, has a clip and rotating head so is easy to position, lasts 11-14 hours depending on the setting, and actually provides enough breeze to ventilate a small tent. **Note**: I’ve heard bad things about the [Coleman CPX 6 camping fan](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F108015%2Fcoleman-cpx-6-lighted-tent-fan-with-stand). As one camper said of it, “It’s weak and noisy. The worst combination. I wouldn’t mind the noise if it actually moved air but it doesn’t.” ## 5. Jobsite Fans A lot of tool brands make jobsite fans which work with their cordless tool batteries.  While I haven’t tried them, lots of people swear by the Ryobi jobsite fans for camping.   [This one](https://amzn.to/3lR37yh) works on their 18v battery or an extension cord.  Dewalt, Milwaukee, Craftsman and other major tool brands also make 9v and 18v battery fans. If you already have a cordless tool set, then it is very affordable to buy the fan. Buying a fan with the battery will be fairly expensive though.  I’m not sure whether it’s worth it to go that route (expect to pay at least $100 for a fan + battery + charger).  Jobsite fans are almost always going to be a lot more powerful and better quality than USB fans.  So, if you go camping in hot temperatures often, it might be worth the cost. ## What about Solar Powered Camp Fans? In theory, you can run a USB fan off of a portable solar panel.  However, you’ve got to be realistic.  The charge needs to be constant enough to keep the fan going – which isn’t going to happen.  You might have issues like the fan going off if a cloud passes over it.  You will be better off using the solar panel to charge a power bank, and then using the power bank to run your fan. **But forget about those fans with built-in solar panels.**  Even if they do give you a breeze (and that’s a big *if*), there are serious issues.  For starters, Lithium batteries shouldn’t be left in hot temperatures — so it’s a stupid idea to leave a fan in the sun to charge the built-in battery. And, assuming that the fan works when set in direct sunlight, do you really want to sit in direct sunlight?  I’d rather be in the shade than next to a fan in the sun! --- ###### Sources: <https://www.campingforums.com/forum/forum/camping-chat/tent-camping/3408-tent-camping-in-extreme-heat> <https://www.reddit.com/r/CampingGear/comments/o9n8fd/tent_fans/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/CampingGear/comments/w765fb/battery_powered_tent_fans/> ###### Image credit: “[Cool but unnecessary camp luxury](https://www.flickr.com/photos/beigephotos/205394255/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [Beige Alert](https://www.flickr.com/people/beigephotos/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [Trail Magik Doll Carrier](https://momgoescamping.com/trail-magik-doll-carrier/) **Published:** December 16, 2024 **Author:** Mom Goes Camping **Content:** You may have read my reviews of the Trail Magik Toddler Carrrier [here](https://momgoescamping.com/trail-magik-carrier-review/), [here](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-carriers-bigger-kids/) or [here.](https://momgoescamping.com/soft-vs-frame-backpack-hiking-carrier/) You’ll know I think its an awesome solution for backpacking with kids. [![trail magik doll carrier](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/trailmagikDolll.webp "trailmagikDolll - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/trailmagikDolll.webp) The magic doesn’t have to stop when your little one starts hiking on their own! Introducing the [**Trail Magik Doll Carrier**](https://trailmagik.com/products/trail-magik-doll-carrier), designed especially for your mini-me explorers. Now, it’s their turn to bring along their favorite little friend on all their adventures. Whether it’s a stuffed animal, a beloved doll, or another special companion, this carrier lets kids share the joy of exploring—just like you’ve shared with them! **It’s Here! The Trail Magik Doll Carrier for Your Mini Adventurers!** [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/trailmagikDoll2-copy.jpg "trailmagikDoll2 copy - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/trailmagikDoll2-copy.jpg) You can buy the Trail Magik Doll Carrier by clicking [here](https://trailmagik.com/products/trail-magik-doll-carrier). To get a discount just use the code MOMGOES. [Code: MOMGOES](https://trailmagik.com/products/trail-magik-doll-carrier) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/c030bd8f34d2d0699ac133909e783553a875586502d845a4fa922fd39a96004f?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Mom Goes Camping [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/mom-goes-camping/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids --- ### [All-Terrain Stroller vs. Jogging Stroller](https://momgoescamping.com/all-terrain-stroller-vs-jogging-stroller/) **Published:** March 2, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** There are dozens of types of strollers but a fairly new option is the all-terrain stroller.  These look a lot like jogging strollers – and sometimes are even called “all-terrain jogging strollers” – but there are actually some major differences between the two. Here’s the difference between jogging and all-terrain strollers and also which one makes more sense to get. Also read: [The Best All-Terrain Strollers for Hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/all-terrain-strollers-hiking/) ## Quick Answer: - **If you mostly hike and won’t go at high speeds:** Choose an all-terrain stroller with two large back wheels and a smaller 360 front wheel. The tires should be air-filled but you can get away with using foam-filled tires. - **If you mostly jog or run:** Get a jogging stroller with a fixed front wheel. The wheels can be the same size.  If you are mostly running on smooth roads, you can get away with smaller 12” wheels and foam-filled tires (but 16” wheels and air-filled tires are still better). - **If you jog on bumpy surfaces *and* go hiking:** Get an all-terrain stroller with a lockable front wheel, air-filled tires and a *really* good suspension system. A budget stroller probably won’t be good enough for both needs! ## Can You Use a Jogging Stroller for Hiking? A lot of jogging strollers can be used hiking. Likewise, a lot of all-terrain strollers can also be used for jogging.  However, this isn’t always the case.  [Consumer Reports specifically states](https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/babies-kids/baby-toddler/all-terrain-strollers-8-10/index.htm) that, “All-terrain \[strollers\] are often mistaken for jogging or running strollers, but should not be used for running unless the user’s manual specifically says so.” If you want a stroller which can go off-road hiking *and* also handle at high speeds, it will need to have features like: - Air-filled tires - Large wheels - Lockable front wheel (which is reliable!) - Fantastic suspension system For example, the [Thule Urban Glide](https://amzn.to/3vBmDkL) and [BOB Alterrain Pro](https://amzn.to/3hxkCxL) can be used for both jogging and hiking. ## Features of Jogging Strollers vs. All-Terrain Strollers There is a lot of cross over between the features of jogging and all-terrain strollers.  Here are the main ones and how they can differ. ### Larger Wheels Some jogging strollers have large (16″) back wheels but this is absolutely mandatory on all-terrain strollers.  The larger wheel means they are better able to handle rough terrain.  With smaller wheels, the ride will be very bumpy for your child.  For older children, this is uncomfortable. For infants, a bumpy ride can be downright unsafe.  On top of that, it takes a LOT more energy to push a stroller with smaller wheels. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/bob-revolution-flex-on-snow.jpg "bob revolution flex on snow - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/bob-revolution-flex-on-snow.jpg)Notice how easy it is to push the stroller [BOB Revolution](https://www.amazon.com/BOB-Gear-Revolution-Suspension-Adjustable/dp/B0829PMJ8D?keywords=bob+revolution&qid=1646219780&s=baby-products&sr=1-3&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=7aefe014905ee315c372629e002297dd&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) over snow because of its large wheels Its even a double stroller and still going smoothly[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/stroller-with-small-tires-on-snow.jpg "pushing stroller on snow - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/stroller-with-small-tires-on-snow.jpg)The small wheels on this stroller are not making it easy to push on snow ### Wheel Design Both jogging and all-terrain strollers will have three wheels. The three-wheel construction (triangle) is more stable than four wheels. It also makes strollers easier to handle and less bumpy for the passenger. However, **all-terrain strollers will have two larger back wheels and a smaller front wheel. Jogging strollers may have three equal-sized wheels.** #### Why larger back wheels and smaller front wheel? You’ll notice that a lot of other vehicles designed for off-road use (such as tractors) also have larger back wheels. There is actually a lot of physics behind this construction. - **Less energy to push:** Because the wheels with the greater surface area are closer to you, you don’t need to exert the same amount of energy to push. This is important when going over rough terrain or uphill! - **Less likely to get stuck:** Pressure is distributed over surface area. Large wheels have more surface area so there will be less pressure on them.  This makes them less likely to get stuck in muddy or sandy terrain. If the front wheel gets stuck, you’ll be able to push it out easier. - **Load distribution:** The weight of a stroller is in the front (your child). The larger wheels help distribute the weight to balance out the heavy front. Otherwise you would have too much weight at the front and your stroller would get stuck in mud and be harder to maneuver. - **Easier to turn:** Because there is more grip in the back axis, the stroller will be easier to turn. - **Less likely to flip over:** The increased grip in the back of the stroller also means it can handle sharper curves without wobbling or flipping over. In short, the large back wheel/small front wheel configuration handles better on bad terrain while still being maneuverable.   By contrast, equally-sized wheels increases traction, which is useful when jogging at high speeds. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/why-larger-back-wheels-and-smaller-front-wheels.jpg "why larger back wheels and smaller front wheel - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/why-larger-back-wheels-and-smaller-front-wheels.jpg)Tractors have larger back wheels to help them handle tough terrain ## **Joggers Have Fixed Front Wheels** The faster a stroller goes, the more the front wheels will wobble.  They can wobble so much that the stroller starts to go out of control, making it hard to steer and potentially veering off the road.  To prevent this wobbling, jogging strollers have a fixed front wheel.   The downside is that you they are harder to maneuver: you have to literally push down to lift the front wheel if you want to turn. Speaking from experience, this can cause a lot of wrist stress! By contrast, you generally do *not* want to have a fixed wheel on a hiking stroller: it would be good difficult to maneuver the stroller around obstacles and curves. #### A solution: Lockable Front Wheel As a compromise, many jogging strollers have a front wheel which can be locked or unlocked.  This makes them suitable for jogging but still allows for maneuverability. There is some debate as to whether lockable front wheels are safe for jogging.  Some parents say that the lock can fail – which would be dangerous if at high speeds.  Also, there is the hassle of adjusting the wheel and making sure it stays straight. **The bottom line?** If you go at very high speeds (such as rollerblading), you should choose a fixed front wheel. OR be ready to pay more for a brand which has reliable locks on the front wheel.  Cheap strollers probably aren’t going to cut it. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/joggingn-stroller-with-fixed-front-wheel-at-high-speeds.jpg "joggingn stroller with fixed front wheel at high speeds - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/joggingn-stroller-with-fixed-front-wheel-at-high-speeds.jpg)At these speeds you absolutely need a fixed front wheel ## Tire Width and Tread Compared to jogging strollers, all-terrain strollers have wider tires with deeper tread. This allows them to better handle rough terrain without making it too bumpy for your child.  By contrast, jogging strollers need thinner tires with less tread so you won’t be slowed down by the stroller. For example: The BOB Alterrain stroller (first picture) has front tires which are 2.25” wide and have lots of deep tread.  Their Ironman jogger (second picture) has front tires which are 1.5” wide and not as much tread. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/alterrain-tread.jpg "alterrain tread - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/alterrain-tread.jpg)Alterrain wheel tread[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/ironman-tread.jpg "ironman tread - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/ironman-tread.jpg)Ironman stroller tread ## Air-Filled Tires Most jogging strollers and all-terrain strollers have air-filled tires.  However, they are a must-have feature if you are going on bumpy terrain.  Otherwise the journey might be too bumpy for your child. **As one mom [said](https://community.babycenter.com/post/a39511546/rubber_vs_air_filled_tires) after trying air tires:** > “One time I was walking with my new Graco Trekko (rubber tires) next to a mama friend with and old Schwinn jogger with air tires. We switched so she could check out the Graco, and even though her stroller was old, it felt as if it were floating over the sidewalk! Air tires do make a difference.” **Tip:** Good air tires should be able to handle jagged rocks, thorns, etc. without puncturing. If you are getting flats frequently, it’s probably because you are using cheap tubes.  Buy better tubes and you’ll probably never get a flat again.  You can also put bicycle goo in the tires to prevent flats. --- **Image credits:** “[Power Stroller](https://www.flickr.com/photos/ganatlguard/11018507173/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Georgia National Guard](https://www.flickr.com/people/ganatlguard/), “[Day 035 – Photo365 – Cool](https://www.flickr.com/photos/threar/16259155939/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [UnknownNet Photography](https://www.flickr.com/people/threar/), “[The snow really picks up as we get towar](https://www.flickr.com/photos/dionhinchcliffe/24288992744/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [dionhinchcliffe](https://www.flickr.com/people/dionhinchcliffe/), Resources: <https://www.sacrewell.org.uk/news/why-do-tractors-have-smaller-wheels-at-the-front-and-larger-wheels-at-the-back/> <https://farmingbase.com/why-do-tractors-have-smaller-front-wheels-and-large-rear-wheels/> ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking **Tags:** stroller --- ### [Dehydrator Carrot Cookies Backpacking Snack](https://momgoescamping.com/dehydrator-carrot-cookies/) **Published:** August 30, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I’ve recently been trying to find more healthy snacks for backpacking.  After some experimenting, I came up with this recipe which uses carrots and fruit.  There is also coconut and walnuts, which are both high-calorie.  The result is a lightweight, nutrient-dense and great fuel for the trail. These actually never ended up making it to the trail because we ate them all too quickly. They aren’t too sweet, so are good if you need a pick-me-up without worrying about a sugar crash.  Though I do wish I would have added a *bit* more honey or cranberries for sweetness. **New to dehyrating?**  Check out my eBook.  It has over 50 nutrient-dense recipes plus tons of info on how to dry your own delicious backpacking meals. [![backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/backpacking-dehydrator-recipes-ebook.jpg "backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck) [**Get It Here**](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck) ## **Weight/Calorie Breakdown:** - **Total calories:** 1167 - **Dry weight:** 260g/ 9.17oz - **Calories per 1g dry:** 5 - **Calories per 1oz dry:** 127 ## **Ingredients:** - 140g of carrots (weighed after cleaned and peeled) - 160g pear (1 smallish pear, cored and peeled; you could also use an apple but I had pears) - 110g ripe banana (1 medium) - 1 Tbsp honey (more if you like it sweeter) - 50g walnuts - 50g dried cranberries (or more if you like!) - 50g coconut flour or flakes - 50g oat flour\* \*If you don’t have oat flour, use the food processor to grind oats into flour.  Then remove from the food processor and follow the instructions below – the oat flour really needs to be added at the end. ## **Instructions:** 1. Grate the carrots 2. Put the carrots, pears, bananas and honey in a food processor. 3. Add the walnuts and cranberries. Pulse again. 4. Gradually add the coconut flour and oat flour to the food processor, pulsing as you add. The mixture should be a bit chunky. 5. Cut parchment paper into squares and put on your dehydrator trays. Make sure there are gaps between the parchment paper squares for air flow. 6. Put a blob of the mixture onto the parchment paper. 7. Shape into squares or bar shapes. The size doesn’t really matter too much but they should be uniform thickness (about ½ – ¾ inch thick) so they dry evenly. If they are too thin, they will crumble. I used a fork to flatten them, hence the lines on the cookies. 8. Use a knife to smooth out the edges. This will keep the edges from crumbling off. 9. Dehydrate until the mixture is completely dry. It should snap easily and no moisture should come out when you squeeze it. 10. Enjoy! [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/carrot-cookies-ready-for-dehydrating.jpg "carrot cookies ready for dehydrating - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/carrot-cookies-ready-for-dehydrating.jpg)*Carrot cookies ready for dehydrating*[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/carrot-cookies.jpg "carrot cookies - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/carrot-cookies.jpg)*Dry cookies They look ugly but taste good* **Also read: [How Much Food to Bring Backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/how-much-food-bring-backpacking-calculator/)** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Food --- ### [Backpack Shakedown: Here’s What 6 Real Backpackers Carry in their Packs](https://momgoescamping.com/backpack-shakedown/) **Published:** December 29, 2016 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Want to know what to pack for a backpacking trip?  There are all sorts of lists available.  But there are also a lot of styles of backpacking out there. An ultra-lightweight backpacker isn’t going to carry the same gear that I take on trips with my preschooler! To give you an idea of what gear you need to pack for backpacking (and how much space it is going to take up in your backpack), here are 7 photos from real backpackers showing what’s in their packs. ## Pack 1: 5 Day Rim-to-Rim Hike, Grand Canyon National Park ![Backpack shakedown 1](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/1-1-1024x768.jpg "1 - Mom Goes Camping") Brewbooks was able to shave weight and space from his pack by using a bivy bag + tarp setup instead of a tent.  He could have saved more weight/space by repacking the big canister of electrolytes and using a Kindle instead of taking along two big books. **Gear List:** - Tarp - ExpedDowmat 9 air pad - Clothes for 5 days + 5 pairs of socks - Outdoor Research Goretex bivy bag - Lafuma light down bag - Scarpa boots - [Jetboil stove](http://amzn.to/2hzFxnn) - Poncho - Teva sandals - Two books - First aid kit - Toilet paper and toiletry kit - Knife - Flashlight - Four 1-liter water bottles - 5 freeze dried dinners for 2, food bars, trail mix - Electrolyte powder - Hiking poles - Camera bag, camera, spare battery and SD card - Sunglasses - Osprey Pack Aether 70 Image credit: [“What’s in My Bag – Pack Shakedown” (CC BY-SA 2.0) by brewbooks ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/brewbooks/5173376243) ## Pack 2: Winter Camping Setup ![backpack shakedown 2](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/2.jpg "2 - Mom Goes Camping") Guo Chai says that he is “Still in the early stages of trying to go ultralight.”  But, for a winter camping setup, this is pretty light! **Gear List:** - Granite Gear AC60 Backpack - Waterproof pack cover - Malachowski winter -6c sleeping bag - Energy gel and muesli bar for emergencies - [Platypus 3L hydration bladder](https://amzn.to/3wJdyt8) - Easton Mountain Kilo 1p tent - 3/4 length self-inflating pad - Toilet paper - [MSR Pocket Rocket Stove](https://amzn.to/3WJFN5E) + 100g gas canister - [MSR Titanium kettle](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FBSZF6/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B000FBSZF6&linkId=8c3bad5ca85330afc43d750e86bdd3c2), [MSR fork and spoon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FBWSR2/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B000FBWSR2&linkId=8de7c735a284268ffa81b9cfe211fe51) - [Spyderco Dragonfly Salt knife](http://amzn.to/2im16HG) - [Princeton Tec Fuel headlamp](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002HMQ5BW/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B002HMQ5BW&linkId=ba5054696e134b81ef9cb2109f8a89e7) - Microfiber towel - Merino wool thermals (mostly for sleeping at night) - Buff Cyclone neck tube, beanie hat, Merino wool gloves, Merino wool socks - First aid kit, water purification tablets, fire starters - Waterproof jacket - Spare glasses - [Israeli emergency bandage](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E9S2AUW/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00E9S2AUW&linkId=8114f573e206eee6634a0a459cbe9df6) Image credit: “[My winter camping setup.](https://www.flickr.com/photos/guochai/7186614398/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [guochai](https://www.flickr.com/people/guochai/) ## Pack 3: 5 Day Yosemite Backpacking Trip ![backpack shakedown 3](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/3-768x1024.jpg "3 - Mom Goes Camping") Who says that allergies are going to stop you from enjoying nature? 😉  That first aid kit is a bit bulky though! **Gear List:** - Backpack - Tent and tarp - Sleeping bag - Foam pad - First aid kit - snakebite kit - Deet - toe warmers - Camera and video camera - Watch - Flashlight, head lamp, glow sticks - Pepper spray - Permanent marker, pen - Sunglass - Matches - Inhaler, eyedrops, allergy medicines - Sunscreen and lip balm - Swiss army knife - Toothbrush and paste, q-tips - Water filter - Shovel - Cell phone and holster - Clothes, food (not pictured) Image credit: “[Yosemite Camping Gear](https://www.flickr.com/photos/phoenixar/5729526094/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [phoenixar](https://www.flickr.com/people/phoenixar/) ## Pack 4: Overnight Trip at Delaware Water Gap ![backpack shakedown 4](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/4.jpg "4 - Mom Goes Camping") Note that this guy brought a quilt instead of a sleeping bag – a risky move if it were to get cold at night! It also means a much bulkier pack, but that isn’t too much of an issue when it is just for a 1 night trip. **Gear List:** - Waterproof jacket - Sunglasses - Kindle - Trowel - Jacks R Better Sierra Stealth quilt - Extra shirt, socks, sock liners, underwear - Food bars - Headlamp - Leatherman Juice PS4 - Water filtration kit - Collapsible canteen and drinking straw - First aid kit - [Jetboil stove](http://amzn.to/2hzFxnn) - Sleeping pad - Toiletry kit - Headphones - Wool/cotton blend long underwear - Tent, tent stakes and tent footprint Image credit: “[Packing List](https://www.flickr.com/photos/srslyguys/9974543755/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [srslyguys](https://www.flickr.com/people/srslyguys/) ## Pack 5: Climber’s Pack ![backpack shakedown 5](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/5.jpg "5 - Mom Goes Camping") Jake is a climber, so he’s got to lug around a lot of extra gear that other backpackers wouldn’t have – but he also says that he’ll leave a lot of it at the trailhead so doesn’t have to carry it all the entire trip. **Gear List:** - Bear box - iPad - Day pack - Nalgene bottles - La Sportiva Tarantulas climbing shoes - Chalk bag, belay device, draws, webbing, harness - Sleeping bag, tent, sleeping pad - Rope, rope bag - Backpack - Boots - Gas canister - Mountain Hardware pants and basketball shorts - Marmot Oracle jacket and Old Navy fleece - Flashlight, headlamp, and other small items - Water filter - Little Book of Mormon - Climber’s Guide to the Teton Range - Cup, bowl - Inhaler - Chapstick - Stove - Hat - Instant meals - T-shirts, underwear - Helmet Image credit: “[Gear for the Teton trip.](https://www.flickr.com/photos/whyisjake/6007404339/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Jake Spurlock](https://www.flickr.com/people/whyisjake/) ## Pack 6: Overnight Grand Canyon Trip in March ![backpack shakedown 6](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/6.jpg "6 - Mom Goes Camping") Yes, all of this will fit into a 34L Deuter backpack!  Those compression packs help shrink down all of the bulky gear needed for cold weather. **Gear List:** - Isis Whisper Down hoodie - Patagonia down sweater vest - Long pants, capris, REI long underwear, socks, undies - Handi-wipes - Quick-dry camping towel - Sunglasses - - [Deuter Futura Pro 34L women’s backpack](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HOD2SO2/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00HOD2SO2&linkId=ef16c9b9b4d8813fc0f0032ccddf515e) - REI rain/wind shell - Gloves, fleece-lined cap - Compressible pillow (her “luxury item”) - Big Bertha insulated, non-self-inflating sleeping pad - LL Bean 25 degree sleeping bag - Mac and Cheese camp dinner - Vasque boots - Bandana - Headlamp - Small camera - Compression packs Image credit: “[Camping gear](https://www.flickr.com/photos/frenchieb/3375818175/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [F. Tronchin](https://www.flickr.com/people/frenchieb/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** backpack, packing --- ### [Backpacking Recipe: Thai-Style Ramen with PNB](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-recipe-thai-ramen-with-pnb/) **Published:** October 17, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Tired of boring backpacking dinners and don’t want to spend a fortune on freeze-dried meals? This backpacking ramen recipe is super easy and delicious.  It includes peanut butter, which makes the meal more calorie-dense and also gives it more protein. Here’s the recipe and instructions. **Also read:** - [How to Plan Backpacking Meals](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-food/) - [26 Peanut Butter Backpacking Recipe Ideas](https://momgoescamping.com/peanut-nut-butter-backpacking-recipe-ideas/) - [Best Brands of Backpacking Meals, Reviewed](https://momgoescamping.com/best-backpacking-meals/) ## Serving Size and Calories: This recipe comes out to 1275 calories, which is enough for two meals (or one dinner for two people).  The dry weight is 10.4oz (295g).  That comes out to 123 calories per ounce (4.3 calories per gram).    If you want to make it even more calorie-dense, add more peanut butter or sesame oil. ## Ingredients: - 3 packets of ramen (mine were 70g packets of 315 calories each) - 3 Tbsp of peanut butter (=290 calories) - 1 tsp of sesame oil - 2 Tbsp soy sauce\* - Flavorful add-ins: I added dehydrated scallions, dehydrated mushrooms and some chili powder \*I found this cool soy sauce paste.   You mix it with 4x as much water to turn it into soy sauce.  Because it’s in paste form, it’s easier to transport and weighs less! ## Instructions: - Remove the ramen from its package. Pour it (and the spice packets they come with) into a zip baggie.  This means you’ll have less trash to pack out. - Put any other dry ingredients (spices, dry mushrooms, etc.) into the bag with the ramen. - Put the wet ingredients (PNB, soy sauce paste and oil) into a separate container.  I just put them in a doubled baggie (the second baggie in case of leaking).  Also read: [How to carry PNB when backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-carry-peanut-butter-when-hiking-or-backpacking/). [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/ramen-packed-for-trail.jpg "ramen packed for trail - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/ramen-packed-for-trail.jpg)This is what it looked like all packed for the trail ## On the Trail: - Put all the ingredients in your pot. - Pour water on top. Let it sit for at 5-10 minutes, or until the ramen has absorbed water.   This way you will use less fuel! - Stir the ingredients. Then bring to a boil. - Enjoy! We were so hungry that I didn’t get a picture of the ramen before eating it.  It was definitely delicious. 😀 [![backpacking ramen with pnb](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/backpacking-ramen-with-pnb.jpg "backpacking ramen with pnb - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/backpacking-ramen-with-pnb.jpg) ### Need more backpacking meal ideas? Check out my ebook.  It’s got over 50 calorie-dense dehydrator recipes, plus tons of info on planning meals for backpacking. **[Get it here for 50% off](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmetasheck50off)!** [![dehydrator backpacking recipes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/book-with-tablet.png "book with tablet - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/book-with-tablet.png) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Food --- ### [When Can Kids Start Carrying their Own Backpack When Hiking?](https://momgoescamping.com/kids-carry-own-backpack-hiking/) **Published:** August 31, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Hiking with kids means that you have a lot of extra things to carry (including carrying your kids sometimes!). You are probably eager for your kids to start carrying their own backpack on hikes. While there is always someone with a story about how their three-year old carried their own pack on a 5 mile hike, most kids are NOT like that.  You WILL be carrying your kid’s backpack hiking for a long time. ## When do kids start carrying their own backpack? The quick answer: Kids as young as two or three years old can carry their own backpack hiking. However, it’s unlikely that very young kids will carry their own pack for an entire hike. It isn’t until kids are around 5 or 6 years old that they’ll carry a backpack for more than few miles hiking – but even then they might complain and beg for you to carry it for them. By eight-years old, kids can carry their own pack so long as you keep it light. ## Give Kids their Own Pack As Young As Possible As soon as you stop carrying your kids in a carrier or pushing them in a stroller on hikes, give them their own backpack (like [one of these](https://momgoescamping.com/best-kids-hiking-backpacks/)).  Two and three year olds love to have their own pack.  It makes them feel special and more motivated to hike.   Starting them off young also trains them to be better hikers later: the sooner you give them their own pack, the sooner they will carry a pack for the entire hike. But let’s be realistic here.  A two year old will *not* carry a backpack for a long hike.  Pack or no pack, most two year olds won’t even complete a hike on their own. **Also Read: [How far can kids hike?](https://momgoescamping.com/how-far-can-kids-hike/)** ## You *Will* End Up Carrying Your Young Kid’s Backpack Kids are finicky when it comes to hiking.  When my daughter was little, there were some rare “miracle” days where she’d hike for miles with her pack on. And then there were days where she’d start complaining the minute we hit the trail and beg me to carry her pack for her. It sucks to have to carry your kids backpack in your hands while hiking.  It means you can’t use your hiking poles properly.  You get off balance from the bulky pack swinging in your hands. **Because it’s inevitable you’ll carry your kid’s backpack hiking, I recommend:** - Choose a backpack for your kid which you can easily strap to the outside of your pack. Carabiners are good for this. - Or leave some extra room in your backpack. Unpack your kid’s pack and put it into your pack. ## The lighter you keep your kid’s backpack, the more likely it is that they will carry it for the entire hike. As a general rule, young kids should carry a maximum of 5% of their bodyweight. Older kids can carry 10-15% of their bodyweight. Consider that a typical 4 year old only weighs about 36lbs, which means they should carry no more than 1.8lbs. It only takes a [small kids water bottle](https://momgoescamping.com/best-water-bottles-little-kids/) and some snacks to reach this weight limit. It’s very easy to over pack your kid’s backpack when hiking.  At this young of an age, the main goal shouldn’t be to “train” them to carry weight hiking.  The goal should be to make hiking an enjoyable experience – and it won’t be if the pack is too heavy.  So put the pack on a scale before you leave to get a sense of how heavy it really is. **Read: [How much weight can kids carry hiking?](https://momgoescamping.com/how-much-weight-kids-carry-backpacking/)** ## Don’t Cave In! I admittedly carried my daughter’s backpack on hikes for a very long time.  Too long. Here’s what would happen: She would get tired on a difficult section of a backpacking trip and start whining.  I’d feel bad (or get annoyed from the whining) and start carrying her pack for her.  This happened even when she was eight years old and definitely capable of carrying her own backpack. It had to stop. So I stopped giving in. ## Set Some Rules about Carrying the Backpack If you are *certain* your kid is physically capable of carrying the backpack (weigh it!) *and* your kid has some experience hiking, make a rule that they have to carry their own pack. With my kid, the rule was that she had to carry a few specific items in her pack (including some basic safety items in case of emergency). She could also add whatever toys or fun items she wanted to the pack – but the rule was she had to carry the pack the entire way. It turns out that letting her add a few fun items to the pack helped motivate her to carry it for the entire hike. And, once she figured out that I wasn’t going to cave in and carry her pack anymore, she stopped whining about it. ## Carrying their own backpack is a good lesson in resilience. When your kids start whining that their pack is too heavy or they are tired, it is easy to give in and carry the pack for them.  But, ultimately, your kids will feel a bigger sense of accomplishment if they carry the pack for the entire hike. **Let’s hear from you – when did your kids start carrying their own packs hiking?** --- ###### Image credit: “[LE Trailblazers](https://www.flickr.com/photos/vastateparksstaff/32333722938/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [vastateparksstaff](https://www.flickr.com/people/vastateparksstaff/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking **Tags:** hiking, kids --- ### [Dog First Aid Kit: Checklist for Hiking, Camping, and Backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/dog-first-aid-kit/) **Published:** February 10, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Just like how you should always take a first aid kit with you hiking (here’s [what’s in mine](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-first-aid-kit-checklist/)), you should have a first aid kit for your dog too.  There is some crossover between the items, so you can combine your dog’s first aid kit with yours. Certain human first aid items are not suitable for dogs though, so you will need to pack canine-friendly meds and bandages. Here’s a list of items to include in your dog first aid kit, why you need them, and how to use the supplies on the trail.  Also read this post on **[Tips for Hiking with a Dog](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-with-dog/).** ## Why Your Dog Needs a First Aid Kit Even though dogs tend to be more nimble than us humans, they can still succumb to the same injuries when hiking, backpacking, or camping: falling from heights, broken bones, sprained joints… Dogs are also more likely to be involved in animal attacks, and even small animals like marmots can do serious damage to your dog. For this reason, *you should always be prepared for the worst.*  That means bring first aid supplies to stop bleeding and bandage serious wounds. On top of that, paw injuries are actually very common with dogs when hiking.  Unless you want to carry your dog off the trail, absolutely make sure you have items for treating injured paws. That means bringing items like tweezers to remove thorns, skin glue to patch a torn paw pad, and bandages. Note: Bandages don’t stay on dogs well because of all their hair. Dogs also have a tendency to chew on their bandages.  This is why dogs require so many layers of bandages for injuries.  Don’t skimp on the bandaging supplies! ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/dog-with-injured-paw-pads.jpg "dog with injured paw pads - Mom Goes Camping")*This poor dog tore its paw pads hiking on hot ground He kept chewing on the gauze bandages and the owners didnt have VetWrap so they had to duct tape the bandages on*![injured paw pad after hike](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/dog-injured-paw-pad.jpg "dog injured paw pad - Mom Goes Camping")*Cleaning a torn paw after a hike Paw injuries are common with dogs*  ## Dog First Aid Kit Checklist ### 1. Irrigation syringe and fluid This is used to clean debris out of a wound. It can also be used as an eye wash. Choose a 10cc syringe with an 18 gauge tip. ### 2. Antiseptic Prep Pads Use these to disinfect wounds before bandaging them to prevent infection.  Povidone-iodine  are preferred over alcohol pads because they don’t burn. You can also use liquid povidone-iodine, but it takes up more space. ### 3. Antibiotic Ointment Antibiotic ointment serves two vital roles.  First, it serves as a barrier and prevents the bandage from getting stuck to the wound.  This is important because you don’t want the scab to tear off each time you change the bandage.  Second, the ointment helps prevent infection. Which ointment to use on dogs? Triple antibiotic ointments like Neosporin containing Bacitracin, neomycin, and polymyxin B are generally considered safe for dogs.  However, you still want to make sure your dog doesn’t eat the ointment, so put lots of layers of bandages over the ointment. ### 4. Non-stick sterile gauze pads After applying antibiotic ointment, you put a gauze pad over the wound.  This will protect the wound and control the flow of blood.  Your dog and you can use the same type of gauze pads for injures, but dogs will go through gauze faster (chewing on them, getting them dirty…) so bring extras. ### 5. Sterile gauze After applying the pad, put sterile gauze on top.  This provides another layer of protection against dirt.  It also creates an extra barrier so your dog doesn’t chew at the wound. **What’s the difference is between a non-stick gauze pad and sterile gauze?**  A non-stick gauze pad is generally made from *non-woven* gauze whereas sterile gauze is *woven.*  Non-woven gauze is more absorbent and less likely to leave lint in the wound.  You could use sterile gauze as a primary bandage over a small wound, but it isn’t recommended for serious cuts. ### 6. Roller Bandage Also known as a conforming gauze bandage, this is a long strip of gauze.  It is used to hold the gauze pads in place. For broken or injured limbs, you can also use a roller bandage to immobilize a limb. Starting about 1 inch below the gauze pad, wrap the roller bandage in a spiral around the injured area. Once you get about 1 inch above the injury site, start rolling the bandage downward so it overlaps. Keep rolling up and down, with each layer covering the previous layer by 50%. Make sure there aren’t any wrinkles in the bandage as these can cut off circulation. ### 7. Stretch gauze This is a thin layer of bandage which is slightly elastic.  Apply it just like a roller bandage. It’s important for holding the previous layers in place. ### 8. Self-Adhering Bandage (VetWrap) [VetWrap](https://amzn.to/3bpexz0) is an awesome bandage which can stick to itself but not other materials.  Because it is elastic, it will apply some pressure to a wound, which is important to control bleeding, especially since dogs don’t always know to be careful with their injury. I know a hiker who swears by VetWrap for humans.  He even stopped carrying an Ace bandage in his first aid kit and uses VetWrap instead. To apply VetWrap to a dog, wrap it in a spiral motion just like you did with the roller bandage.  It shouldn’t be too tight; make sure you can fit a finger between the VetWrap and the bandages beneath it. ### 9. Plastic bag In case your dog gets a serious injury while hiking, you will want to have a clean plastic bag ready.  The bag goes over the bandaged wound to keep it clean and dry. ### 10. Triangle bandage A triangle bandage can be used for bandaging head or eye injuries in dogs. You can also use a triangle bandage to create a muzzle for your dog.  Even the nicest dogs can bite when in pain! Note you can use the same triangle bandage as is in your human first aid kit, so there is no need to carry two of these. ### 11. Medical tape Medical tape can be used to hold the bandages in place before putting on the next layer.  They can also be used to make your own butterfly closures for deep-but-thin cuts, such as knife wounds.  Your  human first aid kit also needs medical tape, so you don’t need to carry two rolls of tape. ### 12. Tweezers Tweezers are a must-have in a dog first aid kit.  They are used for removing ticks, thorns, splinters, and debris from wounds.  I recommend getting a [tick removal tool which can also be used on humans](https://momgoescamping.com/tick-removal-tools-humans/)**.**  Then you and your dog can share. ### 13. Hydrogen Peroxide 3% If your dog eats something poisonous while hiking, you can give it hydrogen peroxide to make it vomit. ### 14. Pain medications Many of the pain medications for humans are dangerous for dogs, so do not give your dog OTC medications like ibuprofen, acetaminophen, or aspirin unless your vet says otherwise. The following pain medications are safe for dogs, but you still need to check with your vet first and ask about dosage: - Carprofen (Novox or Rimadyl) - Deracoxib (Deramaxx) - Firocoxib (Previcox) - Meloxicam (Metacam) \*You might want to also bring a little vial of peanut butter to hide the pills in or a pill gun. ### 15. Skin glue Torn and cut paws are one of the most common hiking injuries for dogs.  Skin glue like [Liquid Skin Bandage](https://amzn.to/3bn23YU) is great at closing paw wounds.  [Styptic pencils](https://amzn.to/2H4W8Kf) are another option for sealing small cuts. While I’ve never tried it, some dog owners swear that super glue works great, though others say it’s not conducive of wound healing. ### 16. Paw balm If your dog isn’t used to hiking, it’s good practice to apply paw balm before the hike. On the hike, check its paws every few hours.  If the paws seem dried out, worn, or are cracking, apply some more balm.   [Musher’s Secret](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002IJQDC/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B0002IJQDC&linkId=b01ba259b5c20912f947fc544d0e7459) is the most popular paw balm. ### 17. Hydrocortisone cream and/or antihistamines Your dog might have a bad reaction to insect stings, poison ivy, nettles, or other plants.  You can apply either a hydrocortisone cream directly or give your dog an antihistamine like diphenhydramine. Make sure you talk to your vet about which choice is better and the proper dosage. ### 18. Thermometer Dogs can easily overheat while hiking, especially short-muzzled breeds.  To play it safe, you can bring a digital thermometer to check your dog’s temperature.  A dog’s normal temperature should be between 101 and 102.5F.  Heat exhaustion occurs between 103 and 106F.  If the temperature is above 106, your dog could succumb to heat stroke. ## Best Premade Dog First Aid Kits Instead of buying each of these dog first aid items individually, you can buy premade first aid kits for dogs.  These are the two I would recommend for hiking, camping, or backpacking with your dog. ### Adventure Medical Kits Trail Dog First Aid Kit Adventure Medical Kits is one of the few companies to make *comprehensive* first aid kits specifically for travel and outdoor sports.  I love [their camping first aid kits](https://momgoescamping.com/best-first-aid-kits-for-camping/), and their dog kit is just as good as the human kits.  It has everything you need without a bunch of useless extras, so the kit is compact and fairly light. The kit weighs 12oz and contains a pet first aid field guide. **Buy [here on Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00T72ST0A/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00T72ST0A&linkId=ae05c3e186b0b73c70b5084c61105bf2) or [here on REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Ddog%2Bfirst%2Baid)** **Contains:** - Sterile Gauze Dressing, x2 - Sterile Non-Adherent Dressing, x2 - Conforming Gauze Bandage - Irrigation Syringe - Saline Wound & Eye Wash - Elastic Bandage Self Adhering - Triple Antibiotic Ointment, x3 - Antiseptic Wipes, x6 - Alcohol Swab, x2 - Triangular Bandage - Tick/splinter Remover - Hydrogen Peroxide 3%, 1 oz. - Diphenhydramine 25 mg., x2 - Pet first aid manual --- ###### Resources for this article: <https://trupanion.com/pet-care/pain-relief-for-dogs> <http://www.wholisticpawsvet.com/articles/How_to_apply_a_bandage.pdf><https://www.vitalitymedical.com/gauze.html> <https://vcahospitals.com/know-your-pet/bandage-and-splint-care-in-dogs> ###### Image credits: “[Alaska 2010 : Our first hike.](https://www.flickr.com/photos/prettykatemachine/4828852135/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [PrettyKateMachine](https://www.flickr.com/people/prettykatemachine/), “[Bella napping with crash workers in the](https://www.flickr.com/photos/simonov/8114284561/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [simonov](https://www.flickr.com/people/simonov/) “[Hurt Paw with Hydrogen Peroxide Wash](https://www.flickr.com/photos/oakleyoriginals/6318939697/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [OakleyOriginals](https://www.flickr.com/people/oakleyoriginals/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety **Tags:** dog --- ### [Knee Pain After Hiking: How to Treat It For Good](https://momgoescamping.com/knee-pain-hiking/) **Published:** August 28, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Our knees can take quite a beating while hiking.  The knee pain sometimes gets so bad that I’ve heard of backpackers who’ve had to walk down hills backwards in order to complete the hike!  Here’s what Brent Wells, a practicing chiropractor based out of Alaska, has to say about what causes hiking knee pain and how you can prevent and treat it. ## What Causes Knee Pain When Hiking? Knee pain when hiking can be caused by a few different things. The main culprits are: ### Overuse or Strain As you hike over hills and rocky surfaces, you unknowingly are putting extreme pressure on your lower body. Your knees tend to take the full brunt. ### Wrong Shoes Another common reason you might experience knee pain when hiking is because you’re wearing the wrong shoes. Because your hips and knees are some of the largest joints in your body, they experience most of the impact when you hike. If your shoes don’t properly support your body when doing so, it can make it harder for these joints to withstand the vibrations. ### Injury Stepping incorrectly while hiking can cause your knees to twist, resulting in a sudden injury. The injury might not be obvious right away; sometimes overuse causes smaller tears that don’t cause pain until later. ## Types of Knee Pain from Hiking The type of knee pain you feel after hiking can give you some clues to how to treat it. Bear in mind that there are many types of knee pain – a doctor will have to diagnose it – these are just some of the most common types of knee pain from hiking. ### Tendonitis **Feels Like:** A sharp, shooting pain or tenderness above or below your kneecap. The knee might also be swollen and have a burning feeling. **What It Is:** Tendonitis occurs from tiny tears in the tendons. The tears lead to inflammation. Most of the time tendonitis occurs after an acute injury and results in severe swelling but can also be a repetitive stress injury. It will usually heal on its own, but if chronic, can last for a few weeks. However, you have to be careful as if it doesn’t heal correctly could have serious side effects. Because of this, it’s [not advisable to let tendonitis heal on its own. ](https://betterhealthalaska.com/5-reasons-why-you-cant-let-tendonitis-heal-on-your-own/) ### Patellofemoral Pain Syndrome **Feels Like:** A dull, aching pain in the front or behind the kneecap. It usually gets worse when doing certain movements and is also often noticeable when sitting. **What It Is:** Also known as hiker’s knee, patellofemoral pain syndrome occurs around the front of your knee typically near the kneecap. The pain is the result of the nerves around the surrounding tissues and muscles incorrectly interpreting pain receptors and causing them to become inflamed. It’s a common problem in hikers because of the consistent climbing motions. ### Meniscus Tears **Feels Like:** Symptoms of knee meniscus tears include pain when moving the knee, swelling, difficulty bending or fully straightening your knee, and trouble walking. **What Is It:** Meniscus tears are the result of a tight twist that causes knee muscles to tear.  It sometimes happens to backpackers going down steep hills with heavy backpacks on.  If you hear or feel a popping in your knee, it’s probably a meniscus tear. ### Bursitis **Feels Like:** Knee bursitis typically feels like a mild pain below the joint, though it can be very painful in severe cases.  The knee may be tender, warm, and swollen. **What Is It:** Bursitis causes the bursae in the knees to become inflamed. The bursa works as a protective pad and is situated at the front of your knee cap. If you consistently do repetitive motions, it can wear down this pad which can lead to inflammation and tenderness. ## Ways to Treat Knee Pain ### 1. Apply Cold Ice your knee as soon as you finish your hike.  The ice lessens blood flow which helps calm inflammation. In addition to this, it slightly freezes nerves which can prevent them from shooting out pain. You’ll want to keep ice on the area for about 15 minutes at a time. This will give your body time to absorb the cold and cease inflammation. While it will take some time before major results are seen, ice is very effective and can help ensure your knee heals correctly. If you are backpacking, **try dunking your knee into a cold stream instead**.  Or, if that’s too impractical, you can dunk a towel into the stream and wrap it around your knee instead. ### 2. Visit a Chiropractor Another helpful way to treat knee pain is to stop by a chiropractor. A chiropractor will inspect your knee to identify what the problem might be. Once they do so, they’ll get to work trying certain adjustments to relieve pain and fix misaligned joints or bones. In addition to manipulations, a few chiropractors might also incorporate massage therapy or ultrasounds. Massage therapy can relax aching muscles while ultrasounds will send heat into your knee so it gets enough oxygen and nutrients to heal. You’ll find that chiropractic care won’t only stop knee pain, but can actually improve your knee’s flexibility. This can be very beneficial in the long run because it will prepare your knee for future hikes. ### 3. Do Strengthening Exercises Sometimes knee pain is the result of not correctly training your knees for heavy impact tasks. If you hike, but haven’t prepared your knees for the journey, it will overwhelm them. This could lead to severe knee pain. A few strengthening exercises you can try are leg lifts, hamstring curls, and chair dips. You might also consider doing cycling, swimming, or yoga. ### 4. Eat Anti-Inflammatory Food Typically backpacking and hiking food is loaded with sodium (especially if you are eating freeze-dried meals). Sodium is a major cause of inflammation and can make knee pain worse.  Instead, try to eat antioxidant-rich hiking foods, such as berries, turmeric, and mushrooms. Antioxidants reduce swelling and remove free radicals that could be making the pain worse. **Read:** - [**Calorie-Dense Backpacking Foods which Are Actually Healthy**](https://momgoescamping.com/calorie-dense-healthy-backpacking-foods/) - **[How to Make Your Own Freeze-Dried Meals](https://momgoescamping.com/diy-freeze-dried-backpacking-mealss/)** ### 5. Consider Acupuncture You might also want to consider trying acupuncture. This type of alternative medicine uses small needles in various pressure points to reduce pain and stimulate nerves. In fact, acupuncture has been shown to help relieve many knee ailments, including osteoarthritis. Acupuncture has such powerful results because it releases endorphins (natural painkillers) throughout the area where the needles are. ## How to Prevent Knee Pain When Hiking Once your knee pain has subsided, you might want to consider using some methods to prevent it from recurring. ### 1. Wear Orthotic Insoles The right insoles can do wonders for preventing hiking knee pain.  Consider going to a podiatrist who can properly fit you.  A fit test involves stepping on a special material to make an imprint of your foot.  From this imprint, the doctor gets information about your gait and foot, like whether you have high or low arches or an instep. ### 2. Choose Flatter Hikers When you go downhill, your knees absorb the impact of your body *plus* the force from going downhill.  This force really takes a toll on your knees: One [study](http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF01552646) found that force on the knee is 7 to 8 time your bodyweight when going downhill. The more you weight – even if your aren’t overweight – the more impact your knees must endure. ### 3. Use Trekking Poles Trekking poles have numerous benefits, including preventing knee pain when hiking.  Using poles helps you balance so your knees don’t have to work as hard.  They also redistribute impact to your upper body, thus saving your knees while helping you get a full-body workout. Note: Ideally you should use *two* trekking poles and not just one. Using just one pole might cause you to favor one side of your body, creating even more problems.  If you only use one pole, then at least change up hands every once in a while. **Read:** [**The Pros and Cons of Trekking Poles**](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-poles-pros-cons/) ### 4. Knee Brace You might also want to wear a knee brace when hiking. This can stop extra pressure around your knee and help you to brace your body better when moving uphill or downhill. It can also avert knee locking which can put strain on surrounding muscles. ### 5. Take More Breaks Knee pain can also be prevented by just taking periodic breaks. This will give your body time to recover and keep you from overworking your knees. ### 6. Lighten Your Pack The more weight you are carrying, the more stress your knees will be under. Some of the easiest ways to lighten your pack are to choose more calorie-dense hiking foods and to plan your hike around water sources so you can filter water as you go instead of carrying it with you. **Read: [Tips for Going Lightweight](https://momgoescamping.com/ultralight-backpacking-tips/)** --- **ABOUT THE AUTHOR:** Dr. Brent Wells, D.C. founded Better Health Chiropractic & Physical Rehab and has been a chiropractor for over 20 years. His practice has treated different musculoskeletal and other health problems through physical therapy, chiropractic care, and [massage therapy designed to help give long-lasting relief to Anchorage patients](https://betterhealthalaska.com/services/massage-therapy/). Dr. Wells is also the author of over 700 online health articles that have been featured on sites such as Dr. Axe, Organic Facts, and Thrive Global. He is a proud member of the American Chiropractic Association and the American Academy of Spine Physicians. And he continues his education to remain active and updated in all studies related to neurology, physical rehab, biomechanics, spine conditions, brain injury trauma, and more. --- ###### **References** <https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25258037/> <https://link.springer.com/article/10.2165/00007256-199928040-00003> <https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0884533617700353> <https://www.walkhighlands.co.uk/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=81683> ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking --- ### [Lightweight Tent for Family Backpacking? 4 Best Options](https://momgoescamping.com/family-backpacking-tents/) **Published:** June 8, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Finding a good family backpacking tent is tough.  For starters, you are probably carrying most (if not all) of the gear.  There aren’t too many ultralight family tents, so your pack will likely end up very heavy.  Your tent also needs to meet your family’s requirements for privacy, features, durability and budget.   And these requirements will likely change as your kids get older! It ultimately comes down to four options for family backpacking tents.  You can sleep in: two tents, a bug tent + tarp, a 4P tent or a 6P tent.  Here are the pros/cons of each option as well as my favorite lightweight tents for family backpacking. ## Quick Comparison Table \[table id=62 /\] ## Option 1: Bring Two Lightweight Tents ![Big Agnes family backpacking tents](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/big-agnes-family-backpacking-tents.jpg "big agnes family backpacking tents - Mom Goes Camping")*The [Big Agnes Salt Creek UL](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=big+agnes+salt+creek+ul&crid=2V5L9M97N76Z9&sprefix=big+agnes+salt+creek+ul%2Caps%2C421&linkCode=ll2&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=a92576f09aeba6de0f40cf0d8ddd7211&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) Left and [Big Agnes Copper Spur HV UL2](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=big+agnes+copper+spur+hv+ul2&sprefix=big+agnes+copper+s%2Caps%2C237&linkCode=ll2&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=2f6d201b629901288ffebe2ee8e00b86&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) Right are popular for family backpacking*  Most parents (including myself) bring two tents when backpacking with their kids.  It gives you a lot of flexibility, especially as your family grows and needs change. There are four people in my family.  We could all squeeze into two 2P tents.  However, I ultimately decided to go with a 2P + 3P tent.  That extra space really makes a difference if it is rainy and we end up hanging out in the tent.   It also means you have more room for gear or a friend to come along. **Tip:** Choose backpacking tents with awnings.  Then you can put both awnings next to each other to create a “passage” between both tents! **Pros** - **Pitching Is Easier:** It’s easier to find enough flat ground for two small tents than one large one. - **Flexible:** If you go on solo trips or only bring some of the kids, you can just use one of the tents instead of being stuck with a big tent. - **Packing:** It is a lot easier to divide two tents between packs than one giant one. - **Privacy:** This is especially important as your kids get older and will sleep in their own tent, or bring friends camping. - **Nighttime waking:** When my younger daughter was a baby, I slept with her in one tent and my husband and older daughter in another. This way they didn’t wake up during each nighttime feeding and diaper change. **Cons** - **Sleep apart:** But the downside is that your family won’t all be able to sleep together. - **Cost:** It usually costs more to buy two tents - **Weight:** Two tents will usually weigh more than one tent. Though this isn’t always the case since it’s easier to find a cheap ultralight 2P tent but not so easy to find lightweight 4P tents. - **Pitch twice:** If your kids are too young to pitch their own tent, it will take twice as long to pitch. #### Recommended 2P & 3P Tents: - **Alps Mountaineering Aries 2P:** Available at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3Nvpv96) - **Big Agnes Salt Creek SL:** Available at [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=big+agnes+salt+creek+ul&crid=2V5L9M97N76Z9&sprefix=big+agnes+salt+creek+ul%2Caps%2C421&linkCode=ll2&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=a92576f09aeba6de0f40cf0d8ddd7211&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl), [Campsaver](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=358fd954-c6b8-44a1-9ca9-aaad445d2dfb&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.campsaver.com%2Fs%2Fbig-agnes-salt-creek) - **Big Agnes Copper Spur HV UL:** Available at [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=big+agnes+salt+creek+ul&crid=2V5L9M97N76Z9&sprefix=big+agnes+salt+creek+ul%2Caps%2C421&linkCode=ll2&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=a92576f09aeba6de0f40cf0d8ddd7211&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl), [Campsaver](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=358fd954-c6b8-44a1-9ca9-aaad445d2dfb&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.campsaver.com%2Fs%2Fbig-agnes-copper-spur-hv-ul) - **Marmot Tungsten** **UL:** Available at [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dmarmot%2Btungsten), [Campsaver](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=358fd954-c6b8-44a1-9ca9-aaad445d2dfb&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.campsaver.com%2Fs%2Fmarmot-tugsten-tent) - **MSR FreeLite 3:** Available at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/390k0jx), [Campsaver](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=358fd954-c6b8-44a1-9ca9-aaad445d2dfb&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.campsaver.com%2Fs%2Fmsr-freelite) - **NatureHike CloudUp:** Available at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3xiW3fk), [Naturehike.com](https://shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=1599865&u=2366353&m=100407&urllink=&afftrack=) --- ## Option 2: Bug Tents and/or Tarp ![family backpacking tarp tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/family-tarp-tent.jpg "family tarp tent - Mom Goes Camping") If going lightweight is your main concern, then this is the best family backpacking tent option.  If you don’t mind bugs, you can leave the bug tent at home and just use a tarp.  (Also read: [Best Tarp Shelter Setups for Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/tarp-shelters/)) **Pros** - **Very lightweight:** It really doesn’t get more lightweight than this. - **Affordable:** It’s fairly easy to find cheap UL bug tents and tarps. - **Good ventilation:** Condensation isn’t an issue when in a bug tent. - **Hang out under tarp:** If you get a large enough tarp, it creates a place to hang out in the rain. - **Fast pitch:** In nice weather, you don’t have to pitch the tarp – meaning a quick and easy pitch. **Cons** - **No privacy:** If your family isn’t the type to get naked around each other, then this isn’t for you! - **Hard to pitch:** You’ll need trees or trekking poles plus a lot of guylines! #### Recommended Bug Tents and Tarps: - **Sea to Summit Mosquito Pyramid:** Available at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3xqQEEu), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F798575%2Fsea-to-summit-mosquito-pyramid-insect-shield-net-double) - **DD Hammocks Trekking Pole Bug Tent:** Available at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3mx0ePG) - **Gossamer Gear UL 2P Tarp:** Available at [Garage Grown Gear](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=8aa14f51-1fb2-4c30-b785-1c6c0a96cd31&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.garagegrowngear.com%2Fcollections%2Ftents-shelters) --- ## Option 3: One 4P Tent [![tent floor covered with four sleeping pads](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/covering-tent-floor-with-pads.jpg "covering tent floor with pads - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/covering-tent-floor-with-pads.jpg)*Its a tight fit in this 4P tent The Naturehike P Series 4P* The third option is to find a 4P family backpacking tent.  While you won’t realistically be able to fit four adults in a 4P tent, it should fit two adults and two kids. **Tip:** Get a 4P tent with a two doors and two vestibules.  It will make your tent much more practical to use with four people! **Pros** - **Sleep all together:** This is good if you have very little kids. - **Only pitch one tent:** This makes setting up camp a lot faster. - **Footprint still small:** A 4P tent doesn’t have a huge footprint, so it’s easier to find a flat spot for pitching. - **Lots of budget options:** It’s really easy to find a cheap 4P tent which is “good enough” for backpacking. **Cons** - **Crammed inside:** Even if your kids are small, a four-person family will still be a tight fit in a 4P tent! - **Crawl over each other:** Depending on the layout of the tent, your family members may crawl over each other to get in/out of the tent. - **Privacy:** If you need privacy, you’ll have to take turns getting dressed in the tent. #### Recommended 4P Tents: - **Naturehike P-Series 4P:** Available at [Naturehike.com](https://shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=1599865&u=2366353&m=100407&urllink=&afftrack=), [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3d6uVtE) - **REI Trail Hut 4P:** Available at [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F185593%2Frei-co-op-trail-hut-4-tent-with-footprint) - **Big Agnes Copper Spur HV UL4:** Available at [Campsaver](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=358fd954-c6b8-44a1-9ca9-aaad445d2dfb&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.campsaver.com%2Fbig-agnes-copper-spur-hv-ul4-tent-4-person-3-season.html%3F_iv_sleep-capacity%3D4-person%26_iv_parent-weight%3Drange-5-7-dot-49-lb) - **Marmot Tungsten 4P:** Available at [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F200302%2Fmarmot-tungsten-4p-tent-with-footprint) - **Alps Mountaineering Lynx 4P:** Available at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3xse9Nw) - **Eureka! Space Camp 4P:** Available at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3QcvSjs), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F187692%2Feureka-space-camp-4-person-tent), [Campsaver](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=358fd954-c6b8-44a1-9ca9-aaad445d2dfb&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.campsaver.com%2Fs%2Feureka-space-camp) --- ## Option 4: Lightweight 6P Tent ![big agnes big house 6p family backpacking tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/big-agnes-big-house-6p.jpg "big agnes big house 6p - Mom Goes Camping") If you need more space but still only want one tent, then a 6P backpacking tent is the way to go.  There aren’t too many lightweight 6P tents though.  It’s going to be a tough tradeoff between space and weight. **Pros** - **Everyone sleeps together:** Good for family bonding - **Less claustrophobic:** It won’t be as cramped as in a 4P tent. - **Large enough for hanging out inside:** If it rains, you’ll appreciate a tent large enough to hang out inside. - **More headroom:** Most 6P family tents have good headroom, so it’s easier to get dressed inside the tent. **Cons** - **Heavy:** Even lightweight 6P tents are pretty heavy. - **Large footprint:** It can be hard to find somewhere large enough to pitch a 6P tent. - **Few options:** Therea aren’t many lightweight 6P tents available. - **Expensive:** The few options tend to be very expensive. - **Durability:** For a 6P tent to be lightweight, it must be made out of UL materials. These can’t always withstand the abuse a little kids put on them! ### Recommended 6p Tents: - **MSR Habitude 6P:** Available at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3Nz94sn), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F178880%2Fmsr-habitude-6-tent) - **Big Agnes Big House 6P:** Available at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3Q1jzWS), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dbig%2Bhouse%2Bbig%2Bagnes), [Campsaver](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=358fd954-c6b8-44a1-9ca9-aaad445d2dfb&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.campsaver.com%2Fs%2Fbig-agnes-big-house) - **Marmot Limestone 6P:** Available at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3H5k3aE), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F110893%2Fmarmot-limestone-6p-tent) - **Kelty Wireless 6P:** Available at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3Q5JRat) --- ## Advice for Choosing a Family Backpacking Tent ### Be Realistic about Family Backpacking Chances are you won’t be doing the same kind of backpacking you did before family life.  My family definitely ends up spending a lot more time hanging around camp than hiking.  So, it’s nice to have tents with a more space and features like pockets, good ventilation and headroom. Ultimately, it all comes down to you and your family having an *enjoyable* backpacking experience — something which won’t be possible if you are all crammed together in a too-small tent for your family! ### Make a Floor Plan Look at the tent floor dimensions.  Then make a “floor plan” showing how your sleeping pads will fit in the tent.  A lot of 4P tents barely fit four pads – and most won’t fit 25” pads. ### Four People Need Two Doors If you are going to put your entire 4-person family in one tent, then you will need two doors. Otherwise, you will probably have to crawl over each other to get in/out of the tent.   With two doors, I can help my younger daughter get out to pee at night without waking the rest of the family. ### Can It Withstand Your Kids? Ultralight tents can be very fragile.  They don’t always withstand the abuse that kids put on them.  I really wouldn’t want to put my kids in an expensive UL tent. Instead, I opted for a cheaper tent.  See these cheap UL backpacking tents.  **What family backpacking tent do you use? Let us know in the comments section below.** --- ###### Sources: <https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/kxm34p/family_4_person_tent/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/ac70pg/looking_for_a_4_tent_for_my_family_and_i_me_my/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/8k3iej/looking_for_tents_for_a_family_of_five/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/CampingandHiking/comments/sd4cyq/family_backpacking_tent_suggestions/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/8k3iej/looking_for_tents_for_a_family_of_five/> Image credit: “[Cleveland Hike: Goathland House campsite](https://www.flickr.com/photos/preef/19051829650/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [Pickersgill Reef](https://www.flickr.com/people/preef/) “[Pryamid Tarp](https://www.flickr.com/photos/umnak/5702006416/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [Umnak](https://www.flickr.com/people/umnak/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** tents --- ### [Advice for Backpacking and Hiking in Spring](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-hiking-spring/) **Published:** February 22, 2019 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Honestly, spring is my least favorite season for backpacking.  The trails are still under the winter spell, but without that beautiful blanket of snow you get during winter hikes.  There is tons of mud. Rain is almost inevitable. And flooded streams can make for difficult crossings. **That said, backpacking in spring can also be a wonderful experience.** - It beats staying at home (especially if you’ve been battling cabin fever all winter!). - There are no annoying bugs. - You get to watch those first spring plants shoot through the ground. - Panoramas are excellent without leaves to block the view. - And you will avoid the crowds that can come during summer and fall backpacking trips. To make sure you actually *enjoy* your spring backpacking trip, here are some tips for things you should bring and plan for.  Hope it helps!!! ## Go Somewhere Warm! Rather than dealing with rainy weather and mud on a spring backpacking trip, why not go somewhere warm instead?  If you have the time and budget to travel further away, you can consider springtime backpacking places like: - The San Gabriel Mountains (California) - Big Sur (California) - Gila National Forest (New Mexico) - Lovers Leap Loop (North Carolina) - Liberty Cap (Colorado) - Herman Creek Pinnacles (Oregon) Obviously there are a lot more places which are great for springtime backpacking.  If you head out of the USA, you’ll also find great places to hike in warm countries like Greece, Portugal, and Spain. (sorry, I don’t know much about hiking in other parts of the world like Southeast Asia or South America!). For example, I had a fantastic time camping and hiking with my daughter on the beaches of Greece in early April. ## Mandatory Gear for Spring Hiking/Backpacking As I said, it is almost inevitable that it will rain during your spring backpacking trip.  And it won’t be one of those summer downpours that drenches you but then the clouds part to brilliant sunshine which dries all your gear. Spring showers can go on for *days.* The rain is heavy and cold.  And all that rain makes things muddy.  Don’t be surprised if you slip down a trail and end up with a giant muddy spot on your butt (speaking from experience here!). On top of this, many trails can be completely flooded with half-frozen water.  You will end up with wet feet.  That probably means blisters too. ![muddy trail in spring](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/20232777732_a67297105d_z.jpg "muddy trail in spring - Mom Goes Camping")*Rain and melting snow mean a lot of mud in springtime*[![spring hiking bear tracks in snow](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/bear-tracks.jpg "spring hiking bear tracks in snow - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/bear-tracks.jpg)Melting snow on the trail meant I could see all the bear tracks p ### 1. Waterproofing for your backpack Waterproof backpacks are bulky and cumbersome.  A better solution for spring backpacking is to use a waterproof backpack cover PLUS a trashbag liner.  You’ll also want to keep important gear (like GPS systems and headlamps) in a dry sack or plastic bags. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/27525775698_d1703f6f3f_z.jpg "rain covers - Mom Goes Camping")*These scouts are keeping their packs dry with rain covers during a spring backpacking trip* ### 2. Trekking Poles I’m a recent trekking pole convert. They really do wonders to transfer weight from your knees to your upper body (meaning you get a full-body workout on your hike). Here are even more [reasons to use trekking poles](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-poles-pros-cons/). For spring hiking/backpacking, you’ll want trekking poles for stability going through muddy trails, forging creeks, and preventing a “slip and slide” adventure on downhill slopes. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/pd-flooded-stream-crossing-fording.jpg "pd flooded stream crossing fording - Mom Goes Camping")*Trekking poles making fording flooded streams much easier* ### 3. Tarp Shelter This isn’t exactly “mandatory”, but having a tarp is well worth the carry weight on longer spring backpacking trips. You’ll be able to set up the tarp so you have a place to sit outside of the rain.  You can also run a clothesline under the tarp to hang your wet clothes, allowing them to dry. **Also read: [27 Ways to Set Up a Tarp](https://momgoescamping.com/tarp-shelters/)** ### 4. Extra trash bags Things will get wet and muddy. You need to have a way to keep these separate from your dry gear.  So plan on bringing a lot of extra plastic trash bags. \[sta\_anchor id=”clothing” /\] ## Clothing Strategies for Spring Backpacking ![clothing for springtime hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/5701710438_eaa874ebab_z.jpg "clothing for springtime hiking - Mom Goes Camping") Wet clothing = evaporation = COLD.  Hiking while freezing your butt off (even for the most ardent of us) is not fun. With the right strategy, you can actually stay pretty dry while hiking/backpacking in the rain.  Here are some strategies: ### 1.  Go with Synthetics or Wool Any pro backpacker will tell you that cotton is off-limits (though I sometimes [wear cotton on summer hikes](https://momgoescamping.com/is-it-okay-to-wear-cotton-hiking/), gasp!).  In springtime though, cotton can be downright dangerous.  It absorbs water like a sponge and will never dry. That can mean hypothermia when you get wet. Go with synthetics which will dry quickly.  Wool is also a good material choice for base layers since it is so insulating and naturally resists some water. **Also Read: [Is Merino Wool Worth It?](https://momgoescamping.com/is-merino-wool-worth-it/)** ### 2. Layers, layers, layers! Wearing layers allows you to quickly adjust your clothing for comfort and weather conditions.  You’ll need: - Base layer: Skin-hugging for maximum movement, made from wool or synthetics. - Mid layer (insulating layer): Fleece jacket and hiking pants. - Outer layer: waterproof jacket and waterproof pants with lots of vents **Read: [The 3-Layer System Explained](https://momgoescamping.com/3-layers-clothing-system/)** ### 3. Wear a Hardshell Jacket with Vents Softshell jackets are not at all suitable for spring hiking or backpacking. While they can withstand a bit of rain, they will get drenched in a spring shower. Likewise, standard rain jackets aren’t suitable for spring hiking/backpacking.  They will keep the water out, but won’t keep you warm enough. What you need is a hardshell jacket. A good hardshell jacket is made up of 3 layers: - **Innermost Layer:** This layer protects the other layers from body oils.  It also is slippery to prevent friction against your mid and base layers. - **Mid Layer:** This layer contains a membrane which is water-resistant and breathable. It helps wick moisture away from your body so you don’t get drenched from sweat. - **Outer Layer:** This outer layer is completely waterproof.  The thickness varies.  A hardshell jacket designed for winter will have a thickness of about 90 denier. A thinner, lighter hardshell jacket may have a 20 denier. The issue with hardshell jackets is that they aren’t breathable (even the “breathable” ones will still make you sweat). To keep yourself from sweating like crazy, look for one which has lots of zippable vents. ### 4. Waterproof Pants Will Keep Your Warm & Dry Most pants are just “water resistant” – which is a completely different thing than waterproof.  Water-resistant pants will shed *some* water, and are quick to dry.  But they will NOT keep you dry in a springtime rain! By contrast, most waterproof pants resemble parachute pants from the 90s.  They actually keep water out.  And, since they don’t absorb water, dry almost immediately.  The reason we don’t wear waterproof pants for hiking in summer is because they aren’t breathable, so will make you sweat like crazy in hot weather. Cheap waterproof pants will just snap over your normal pants and don’t have any insulating properties.  The better waterproof pants can be worn by themselves. On a short hiking trip in the rain, you can get by with water-resistant hiking pants.  Or, some prefer to wear hiking stockings.  On longer trips, a pair of breathable waterproof pants will make all the difference and are well worth the investment. Ladies, read this post on the [**best waterproof pants for women**](https://momgoescamping.com/best-waterproof-womens-hiking-pants/). ### 5. Waterproof Gaiters + Really Good Socks Gaitors helps keep mud and snow out of your boots. The good socks are for keeping your feet comfortable when they get wet, despite the gaitors. **Also Read: [How to Keep Your Feet Dry Hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/keep-feet-dry-hiking/)** ![springtime hikers in gaiters](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/40521783084_cc09771436_z.jpg "hikers in gaiters - Mom Goes Camping") ### 6. Consider Trail Runners Instead of Waterproof Boots There is no such thing as a truly waterproof boot (especially in spring conditions).  Your socks will end up damp – which isn’t much better than being completely drenched. So, if you are on a longer trip, consider wearing trail runners instead. Compared to boots, trail runners are much more breathable, will dry faster (assuming you get some dry weather), and are less likely to give you blisters.   You’ll be glad for trail runners instead of stiff boots when you need to forge a creek! ### 7. Bring an Extra Pair of Clothing. Forget going ultralight! It is worth it to carry an extra few pairs of clothing so you will have something dry to change into.  When camping with my daughter in springtime, I even made a point to bring extra pajamas in case her primary pair got wet. ### 8. Sock System In dry weather, wear just a pair of wool socks. Or, [to prevent blisters, use the two-sock system](https://momgoescamping.com/wear-two-pairs-socks-prevent-blisters-hiking/).  When it starts raining, wear a pair of Gore-Tex socks over your thinner base layer socks. You’ll also want to bring a few extra pairs of socks. You’ll love having a pair of dry, warm socks to put on at the end of a long day of backpacking. ### 9. Tuck in your shirt and pants Any part of your clothes which hangs out will absorb water.  Prevent this by tucking in.  You can even tuck your pants into your socks to prevent them from absorbing water as they brush against plants. ### 10. Bring a Waterproof Brimmed Hat As someone who wears glasses, I always bring a brimmed hat when backpacking.  Otherwise even a light shower can blind me by getting my lenses wet. Even if you don’t wear glasses, a brimmed hat is a good choice. It will keep water from splattering your eyes.  You’ll actually be able to look upwards (and enjoy the view) instead of looking down to protect your eyes from the downpour. ### 11. Gloves and mittens As Philip Werner [points out](https://sectionhiker.com/backpacking-gear-for-cold-wet-weathe/), “you’d be surprised how much warmer you’ll get wearing rain mittens and glove liners.” So consider bringing a hardshell mitten or a [glove which contains lightweight liners](https://momgoescamping.com/best-winter-hiking-gloves/). \[sta\_anchor id=”wet” /\] ## What to Do If Your Clothes Get Wet There is only so much clothing you can bring backpacking.  A major mistake that people make is changing their clothes when it gets wet.  The clothes don’t have time to dry, and they end up with nothing dry to wear. In some situations, it is better to stay in your wet clothing.  Assuming that you are wearing synthetics or wool, your body heat will eventually dry the clothing.  You should only change your wet clothes if you are very cold. **According to [Roanoke Outside](https://www.roanokeoutside.com/stay-comfortable-hiking-rain/), here’s what to do if your clothes get wet:** - **If it stopped raining, put on dry clothes.** Lay out your wet clothes to dry as soon as you can. - **If it is still raining, keep your base layer on**. Swap out your wet insulating layers for dry ones. - **If it is still raining *and* you are too cold to stay in wet clothes,** change all of the wet clothing. If you don’t have any dry clothes for the next day (or it is raining the next day too), then put on your damp clothes.  Your body heat will eventually dry the clothes.  You’ll be better off wearing damp clothes today and having dry clothes to change into once you are at camp. \[sta\_anchor id=”camp” /\] ## Setting Up Camp in Springtime In addition to the normal rules of setting up camp, springtime brings some other issues – especially flooding. Here’s what to keep in mind. ### Safety Issues: - Don’t camp in or near dry riverbeds. They flood quickly when it starts raining. - Camping under trees can provide extra protection, but watch out for “widow maker trees.” - Avoid camping in lower areas. These flood quickly. - Watch out for mudslide areas. ### Pitching the tent: - Use the footprint. It is definitely worth the extra carry weight and time to prevent the bottom of your tent from getting drenched. - Pitch quickly! Practice this at home before you go. Or have your backpacking buddies hold the rain fly over the tent as you pitch so it doesn’t get drenched. - Stake down your tent guylines. Even if the weather seems nice when you set up camp, it can get windy and rainy quickly. Make sure those guylines are staked down properly so your tent doesn’t blow away! - Keep doors away from the wind. Otherwise the wind will blow rain in. ### Consider a hammock instead Finding a dry spot to set up camp in springtime can be difficult.  Some backpackers prefer to use a hammock in spring instead.  You’ll need a waterproof tarp to hang above it, plus a warm quilt.  The great thing about this system is that it doesn’t force you to become a pro of pitching the tent in 90 seconds flat so you minimize wetness. ### Sleep Setup It gets COLD at night in springtime.  Remember that sleeping bags always list their lower rating, and *not* their comfort rating.  To actually stay warm and comfortable, you’ll need a sleeping bag with a *comfort rating* of 15-20F. And don’t forget about the importance of a good sleeping pad. The ground will suck heat out of your body, especially when that ground is already half-frozen.  Aim for an R-value of around 3 or 4. Here are some [affordable sleeping pads with high R-value](https://momgoescamping.com/best-cheap-ultralight-backpacking-pads/). **Tips:** - Unless you are a pro at rainy weather camping, avoid down sleeping bags. They get ruined when wet and don’t insulate when wet. - Bring an extra short-length sleeping pad. You can use this for sitting on.  At night, you can put it under your torso (under your normal sleeping pad) for extra core warmth. \[sta\_anchor id=”safety” /\] ## Safety Issues in Springtime ### Be prepared to exit. Don’t be so stubborn about completing your hike that you end up doing something stupid.  Fording flooded creeks is more dangerous than it might seem.  So, if you aren’t sure, it is better to head back than take the risk. Likewise, the rainy weather means a higher risk of mudslides and erosion.  Go back if you are unsure about the trail conditions! ### Canyons and Flash Flooding Being in a canyon when it starts raining is practically a death sentence.  The rains will surge down into the canyon, causing a flash flood — something which [kills many hikers](https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/16/us/utah-flash-floods.html) every year.  Check weather forecasts and don’t go in a canyon if there is a chance of rain. ### BEARS! I’m not keen about meeting a bear on the trail during anytime of the year.  However, a springtime encounter would be particularly scary.  As the Missouri Department of Conservation warns, [bear awareness is extra important in springtime](https://mdc.mo.gov/newsroom/bear-awareness-extra-important-springtime). Bears are coming out of hibernation in early spring.  They are hungry, and thus extra grumpy/aggressive.  Mama bears are often with their cubs, which makes them aggressive and potentially dangerous. Make sure you bring your bear spray with you.  Carry it on your hip so it is accessible. There’s no point to bringing bear spray if you can’t reach it in time! Learn [how to hang a bear bag properly](https://momgoescamping.com/hang-food-bag/) and brush up on [what to do if you see a bear](https://momgoescamping.com/bear-safety/). --- ###### **Image credits:** “[Nearing Glacier Pass. Talkeetna Mountain](https://www.flickr.com/photos/paxson_woelber/43661869594/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Paxson Woelber](https://www.flickr.com/people/paxson_woelber/) “[100 Mile Wilderness (1)](https://www.flickr.com/photos/32357017@N03/20232777732/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [John Hayes (gravelboy)](https://www.flickr.com/people/32357017@N03/) “[snowy trail](https://www.flickr.com/photos/maplemama/2597869387/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [maple’s mama](https://www.flickr.com/people/maplemama/) “[Belcarra, April, 2018](https://www.flickr.com/photos/graham/40521783084/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [GMulligan](https://www.flickr.com/people/graham/) “[18-nft-0012](https://www.flickr.com/photos/j-wbrown/27525775698/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [J-W Brown](https://www.flickr.com/people/j-wbrown/) “[STB\_9578](https://www.flickr.com/photos/32332540@N06/5701710438/)” ([CC BY-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/2.0/)) by [Bassett’s Irregular Adventures](https://www.flickr.com/people/32332540@N06/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Backpacking, Hiking **Tags:** cold, rain, spring, weather --- ### [Bear Safety when Camping and Hiking : How to Get It Right](https://momgoescamping.com/bear-safety/) **Published:** January 15, 2025 **Author:** Diane **Content:** The great outdoors is awe-inspiring, provides a respite from urban hustle and bustle, and gives endless opportunities for adventure and discovery.  However, the great outdoors can also be terrifying – and nothing seems to embody this fear more than bears. Let’s be clear: most of these bear fears are completely unfounded. You are more likely to be killed by a dog or swarm of bees than a bear.  However – just like with any other aspect of the great outdoors – the key to staying safe around bears to is to be educated and prepared. Here we will go over the most crucial elements of bear safety, including what behaviors put you at risk, how to avoid bear encounters and what to do if you are attacked. **Jump to:** - [Understanding Bears](#understanding) - [Bear Attack Statistics](#statistics) - [Avoiding Bear Encounters](#encounters) - [If You See a Bear](#see-bear) - [Bear Charges and Attacks](#attacks) - [Self-Defense Against Bears](#self-defense) \[sta\_anchor id=”understanding” /\] ## Understanding Bears There are [8 different species of bears](http://bearwithus.org/8-bears-of-the-world/) in the world. However, only two of these are located in the lower 48 states: *Ursus americanus* (brown bears)  and *Ursus arctos* (brown bears). It’s important that you understand the difference between these types of bears because, depending on the type, you should react differently during an encounter. **Note:** Despite their names, both black and brown bears can have fur ranging from blonde to dark black. You can’t identify a bear based on color alone! The best way to ID a bear from afar is by the shoulder hump: brown bears have a hump and black bears do not. ### Black Bears (Ursus americanus) **Behavior:** Brown bears are known for being timid and shy.  They are easily scared away with noise and rarely aggressive towards humans. **Habitat:** Black bears are highly adaptable and can be found in a variety of habitats across North America, including forests, mountains, swamps, and even some arid regions. [![Black bear habitat map](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/black-bear-map.jpg "black bear map - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/black-bear-map.jpg) *Image credit: [Ursus americanus IUCN range map extant and extirpated.png](https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_black_bear#/media/File:Ursus_americanus_IUCN_range_map_extant_and_extirpated.png), [CC BY-SA 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0)* **Numbers:** There are approximately 750,000 black bears living in North America. Most of these are in Canada and Alaska, though there are sizable populations in parts of the lower 48 states. This means that **there is a good chance of encountering a black bear when outdoors.** **States with the most black bears:** - Alaska: 100,000 - California: 30,000-40,000 - Oregon: 25,000-30,000 - Maine: 24,000-36,000 - Wisconsin: 24,000 - Idaho: 20,000-30,000 - Virginia: 18,000-20,000 - Colorado: 17,000-20,000 - North Carolina: 15,000-20,000 - Montana: 13,000-17,000 - Minnesota: 12,000-15,000 - West Virginia: 12,000-14,000 **Appearance:** - **Color:** varies from blond to black - **No distinctive** shoulder hump. - **Butt:**Is higher than its shoulders. - **Face:** Profile is straight - **Ears:** Tall and fairly pointy - **Front claws:** 1-2 inches long and curved [![black bear](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/bear-1102599_640.jpg "black bear - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/bear-1102599_640.jpg)American black bear Note the lack of shoulder hump ### Brown Bears **Behavior:** While brown bears are also shy, they are notoriously more aggressive than black bears.  When they feel threatened, they are more likely to make a bluff attack than run away.  They can be aggressive, especially when cubs are nearby. **Habitat:** In North America, brown bears are mostly found in Canada and Alaska.  There are also some brown bears found in the lower 48 states.  They are mainly found in the following ecosystems: - Greater Yellowstone National Park - Northern Continental Divide - Cabinet-Yaak Ecosystem - Selkirk **Numbers:** There are approximately 55,000 brown bears in North America. Most of these are found in Alaska and Canada.  In the lower 48 states, there are only approximately 1,900 brown bears. Most of these are found in the Northern Continental Divide (approximately 1,070 individuals) and Yellowstone area (approximately 730). **Appearance:** - **Color:** Varies from blonde to black. - **Noticeable shoulder hump** - **Butt:** Is lower than shoulder hump. - **Face:**  Profile is flatter - **Ears:**Short and rounded. - **Front claws:** 2-4 inches long and are slightly curved. Claw marks are usually visible in tracks. [![brown bear](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/bear-422682_1280-1024x682.jpg "brown bear - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/bear-422682_1280-e1573640147257.jpg)Note the distinctive hump on its back[![brown bear color](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/brown-bear-1388621_1280-1024x682.jpg "brown bear - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/brown-bear-1388621_1280-e1573640119697.jpg)This is also a brown bear even though it is almost black in color #### Brown Bears vs. Grizzly Bears There are numerous subspecies of brown bears which are found in North America, Europe and Asia.  The subspecies found in the lower 48 United States is *Ursus arctos horribilis,* better known as a grizzly bear. **So, all grizzly bears are brown bears but not all brown bears are grizzlies.** ### What Time Are Bears Most Active? Black and brown bears in the lower 48 states are mostly crepuscular, meaning that they are more active at dawn and dusk.  You should avoid hiking in bear country during the very early morning and make sure you finish your hike well before dusk. However, what time bears are most active varies depending on the season and amount of food available.  For example, bears will usually nap during the day during the hot summer months but may search for food during daytime in fall when they need to consume extra calories in preparation for hibernation. ### Bear Seasons Bears hibernate or den during the cold months when food is scarce.  It varies depending on the region, but is usually from November to March.  It is unlikely you will encounter a bear during these seasons. In early spring when bears awake from hibernation, they are very hungry and start seeking food.  Bears during this period can be very aggressive.  You will want to take extra precautions during this period! Bears are particularly active during the summer and fall months when they need to consume huge amounts of food to prepare for hibernation.  A pregnant female grizzly can consume as much as 90lbs of food per day in fall.  The lower temperatures mean that the bears can continue eating throughout the day, so **you are more likely to encounter a bear in the months of September and October**. **Fun fact:** Bears are the only North American mammal that gives birth during the brutal cold months of January and February! ### Food Conditioned Bears Bears are generally shy creates and will avoid contact with humans.  However, there is an exception to this: *food conditioned bears.* A food conditioned bear is one that has had contact with humans and was “rewarded” with food.  As a result, the bears will actively seek out humans, such as coming to campgrounds.  This is dangerous for both humans and the bear. According to biologist John Hechtel of the Alaska Department of Fish and Game, 95% of food conditioned bears will eventually become nuisances and have to be killed.  That’s where the phrase a “A fed bear is a dead bear” comes from. Food-conditioned bears are often found in areas with: - Many human visitors - Lots of human food (such as at campgrounds) - Large populations of bears (Sources: [1](https://wildlifeboss.com/black-bear-population-by-state/), [2](https://www.outsideonline.com/adventure-travel/national-parks/most-dangerous-animals-in-national-parks/), [3](http://bioweb.uwlax.edu/bio203/f2013/hackfort_dawn/habitat.htm), [4](https://a-z-animals.com/blog/grizzly-bear-population-by-state/), [5](https://www.humanesociety.org/sites/default/files/docs/HSUS_Five-Year-Status-Review-Grizzly-March-2021.pdf), [6](https://www.mammalsociety.org/recovery-grizzly-bear-lower-48-contiguous-united-states), [7](https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/ajpregu.00313.2012), [8](https://yellowstonebearworld.com/when-are-bears-most-active), [9](https://bear.org/5-stages-of-activity-and-hibernation/), [10](https://animals.howstuffworks.com/mammals/bears-throughout-year.htm), [11](https://dnr.alaska.gov/parks/safety/bears.htm)) \[sta\_anchor id=”statistics” /\] ## Bear Attack Statistics The chances of a fatal bear attack are relatively low.  Since 2000, there was an average of one fatality per year in the lower 48 states.  In all of North America, including Alaska and Canada, there were approximately three fatal bear attacks annually. These numbers align with historical trends dating back to the 1900s. When it comes to non-fatal bear attacks, the risk is also low. The 1970s was the peak of peak of human–bear conflict with dozens of injuries yearly occurring in Yosemite, King’s Canyon, and Sequoia Parks alone.  Aggressive bear management techniques in the parks, such as reducing human food sources and relocating problematic bears, reduced the number of attacks. While the numbers still aren’t as high as in the 1970s, there has been a noteworthy increase in *non-fatal* bear attacks in recent years. In the period from 2000 to 2017, there were 210 non-fatal black bear attacks in the lower 48 states. **This increase in bear attacks can be attributed to several factors, including:** - Growing number of people engaging in outdoor activities in bear-populated areas - Successful conservation efforts leading to increased bear populations and expanded bear habitats - Changes in bear behavior such as food-conditioning and habituation, partly influenced by a decline in hunting activity. For a more specific breakdown, black bear attack statistics reveal 67 fatal incidents in North America since 1900 and 210 non-fatal attacks recorded between 2000 and 2017. Certain states stand out in terms of frequency of black bear attacks, per human and per bear population. **States with the Most Black Bear Attacks (Per 500,000 People):** - Colorado: 13.44 - California: 9.75 - New Mexico: 9.72 - Montana: 5.89 - Idaho: 5.26 - Wyoming: 4.25 **States with the Most Black Bear Attacks (Per 1,000 Bears):** - Colorado: 3.82 - New Mexico: 3.09 - Nevada: 2.50 - Arizona: 2.33 For those concerned about grizzly bear encounters, the period from 2000 to 2015 witnessed 54 non-fatal and 7 fatal attacks. These occurred in Wyoming (29 non-fatal and 5 fatal attacks), Montana (25 non-fatal and 2 fatal incidents) and Idaho (8 non-fatal attacks and no fatal attacks). So, while bear attacks are not common, you should still be cautious. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Characteristics-of-Non-Fatal-Attacks-by-Black-Bears-Conterminous-United-States-2000a•fi2017-1.jpg "Characteristics-of-Non-Fatal-Attacks-by-Black-Bears-Conterminous-United-States-2000â•fi2017 (1) - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Characteristics-of-Non-Fatal-Attacks-by-Black-Bears-Conterminous-United-States-2000a•fi2017-1.jpg) [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Characteristics-of-Non-Fatal-Attacks-by-Black-Bears-Conterminous-United-States-2000a•fi2017-2.jpg "Characteristics-of-Non-Fatal-Attacks-by-Black-Bears-Conterminous-United-States-2000â•fi2017 (2) - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Characteristics-of-Non-Fatal-Attacks-by-Black-Bears-Conterminous-United-States-2000a•fi2017-2.jpg)Bear attacks are most likely in summer because that is peak outdoor recreation time *Data Table Source: <https://digitalcommons.usu.edu/hwi/vol15/iss1/23>/, [CC BY 4.0 License](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/).* Other sources: [12](https://www.wikiwand.com/en/List_of_fatal_bear_attacks_in_North_America#Brown_bear_2), [13](https://wiseaboutbears.org/about-us/bear-attacks-2/), [14](https://minds.wisconsin.edu/handle/1793/80138), [15](https://helda.helsinki.fi/server/api/core/bitstreams/24fc1e96-7426-4f4f-b6af-0f6364765eca/content), [16](https://www.fieldandstream.com/conservation/fatal-bear-attacks-2021/), [17](https://www.bearstudy.org/images/stories/Publications/Trends_in_Human_Fatalities_by_Griz_&_Black_Bears.pdf)) \[sta\_anchor id=”encounters” /\] ## Avoiding Bear Encounters The best way to stay safe around bears is to avoid seeing them.   The good news is that avoiding bears is usually very easy since bears are shy and want to stay away from humans. In areas with food-conditioned bears, you may need to use additional methods such as electric fencing or air horns. **For more info, read** **[Bear Repellents: What Works and What Doesn’t](https://momgoescamping.com/bear-repellent/)**. ### When Hiking - **Make noise:** Most bear encounters when hiking occur because the bear didn’t hear (or smell) you coming, such as if you are hiking quietly and the wind is blowing towards you. A surprised bear can be a dangerous bear, so you need to alert the bear to your presence by talking or singing as you hike. - **Don’t hike at dawn or dusk:** Bears are usually crepuscular (*active*at dusk and dawn), so this is the time you are most likely to encounter them. - **Stay on designated trails:** Stick to well-marked paths to reduce the likelihood of surprising a bear. Avoid venturing into dense vegetation where bears might not hear your approach. - **Hike in a group:** Bears are less likely to approach larger groups. Traveling with companions enhances safety and decreases the chance of surprising a bear. - **Don’t bring your dog:** More than half of black bear incidences involved dogs and 40% of attacks involving dogs are severe. This is because bears can perceive dogs as a threat and attack, especially when the dogs bark or chase the bear. These attacks often end with the dog getting killed and the owner severely injured. If you must bring your dog, keep your dog leashed. ### At Camp The key to avoiding bear encounters at camp is to keep food and other scents away.  For example, you will want to cook downwind from camp, dispose of dish water away from camp and store food properly, such as [hanging from a tree](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-hang-a-bear-bag/) or using a [bear canister](https://momgoescamping.com/bear-canister-vs-ursack/). When camping in the backcountry, it’s important to choose a campsite away from areas where bears frequent, such as salmon trails.  Ideally, you’ll set up camp in an open area where bears can see you and are less likely to be startled by your presence. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/bears-at-camp.jpg "bears at camp - Mom Goes Camping")The most important thing you can do to keep bears away is keep your campsite clean and free of food **For more info, read: [How to Keep Bears Away from Campsite](https://momgoescamping.com/keep-bears-away-campsite/)** \[sta\_anchor id=”see-bear” /\] ## What to Do If You See a Bear If you follow the bear avoidance guidelines, it’s highly unlikely that you will see a bear.  A lot of people don’t even realize that they were close to a bear because the bear ran away once alerted to human presence. In the unlikely event that you do see a bear, here’s what to do. ### The Bear Hasn’t Seen You - Remain quiet. Don’t startle the bear by making an noise. - Without running, slowly retreat and leave the area. Keep your eyes on the bear to see if it has any sudden changes in behavior. - If you can’t retreat: Then wait for the bear to move on its own or make a very wide detour around the bear. Go downwind and be as quiet as possible. ### If the Bear Has Seen You - **Remain Calm!** Bear attacks are rare and a bear will usually move out of the way when it sees you. - **Ready Your Bear Spray.** Take it from the holster and remove the safety. - **Make Yourself Look Bigger.** You can do this by raising your arms over your head. If hiking in a group, bring members closer together. - **Start Talking Calmly:**The idea here is to let the bear know you’ve seen it and that you aren’t a threat. Just start talking calmly.  Apparently, it doesn’t matter what you say to the bear.  But giving complements couldn’t hurt 🙂 - **Slowly Back Away:** While still talking calmly, start to slowly back away. Do not turn your back to the bear.   The bear might make a bluff charge, stopping well before contact.   If this happens, keep your emotions in check and don’t run.  Running will just make things worse! - **Stop If the Bear Follows:** You will need to stand your ground. **DO NOT:** - **Absolutely DO NOT RUN.** This might cause it to think you are prey and go chasing you in pursuit.  There is no way you can outrun a bear. - **CLIMB A TREE:**Most people know this by now, but bears are good climbers. Going up a tree might just cause the bear to chase you up the tree, trapping you there. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/bear-encounter-arms-in-the-air.jpg "bear encounter arms in the air - Mom Goes Camping")This hiker did the exact right thing Instead of running he waved his hands in the air and told the bear to go away in a firm voice  Note that the picture was taken from a safe distance across a river Never take a photo during a bear encounter \[sta\_anchor id=”attacks” /\] ## Bear Charges and Attacks Most of the time, bears will not engage with humans.  If you’ve been practicing smart bear avoidance techniques, you probably won’t even be aware that you were close to a bear!  But, in some situations, the bear might engage.  These encounters can be divided into three types: - Charges - Defensive attacks - Predatory attacks ### Bear Charges If a bear feels threatened or stressed, it may charge you. Luckily, **most bear charges are bluffs.** The bear will bound towards you, only to veer out of the way in the last moment and retreat.  It’s actually impressive how quickly such a large animal can stop and change direction! How you react to the charge can determine the outcome. So, it’s important to know the signs a bear might charge so you can be ready. #### **Signs a Bear Might Charge:** - Snapping jaws - Huffing - Slapping the ground - Head and ears are up and forward - Puffs itself up to look bigger **Note:** Bears sometimes may stand on their hind legs.  This is *not* a sign of aggression.  Rather, the bear is curious and standing up to get a better look at you. #### **What to Do If a Bear Charges:** - **Don’t run.** This will just cause it to chase and attack you. - **Use your bear spray.** When the bear is within 25 feet, spray a warning blast of bear spray.  If the bear still gets closer, spray directly into its face. - **Stand your ground.** Get ready to defend yourself in case the charge is not a bluff. ### Defensive Attacks Almost all bear attacks are defensive.  They occur when a bear feels threatened, such as when a bear is protecting its food or a mother is protecting her cubs. #### What to Do during Defensive Bear Attacks: - **Black bear attacks:** Black bears are timid. **Do NOT play dead with black bears.** Fight back with everything you have. Throw rocks, hit it with branches… Simply fighting back is usually enough to scare the bear away. - **Defensive brown bears attacks:** If the bear is **PLAY DEAD.** Curl up in a ball and use your hands and arms to protect your neck and head. You may get a slapped by the brown bear, but it should go away once it realizes you are not a threat. ### Predatory Attacks In rare cases, a brown or black bear may have a predatory attack.  The bear will likely stalk you quietly before attacking.  If a bear is persistently following you, such as by disappearing and reappearing, it may be getting ready for a predatory attack.   It won’t exhibit defensive behaviors like huffing. **If you notice a bear stalking you:** - Shout, bang pans or make other loud noises - Stamp your feet - Make yourself look bigger by holding up branches, poles, etc. The point is to let the bear know you will fight back if attacked! **DO NOT PLAY DEAD** in a predatory attack! You need to fight back or you will just make yourself into an easy meal. \[sta\_anchor id=”self-defense” /\] ## Self-Defense Against Bears While the chances of being attacked by a bear are low, you still need to be prepared.  There are really only two options when it comes to self-defense from bears: bear spray and firearms. ### Bear Spray: A Proven Defense [Research](https://www.bearwise.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/efficacy-of-bear-spray-smith-et-al.-2010.pdf) shows that bear spray is the most effective self-defense against bear attacks. In 92% of recorded incidents with brown bears and 90% of incidences with black bears, bear spray successfully averted confrontations. Just as important, 98% of people carrying bear spray were uninjured after close encounters with bears. Those who were injured only had minor injuries. Another [study](https://wildlife.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/wsb.1403) found that bear spray is even effective in deterring and stopping polar bear attacks.  In more than half of those incidences, other deterrents were used unsuccessfully before bear spray was used successfully. **Read: [How to Use Bear Spray](https://momgoescamping.com/bear-spray/)** [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/bear-spray.jpg "bear-spray - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/bear-spray.jpg)Bear spray by [Frotiersman](https://amzn.to/47bNa7w) has the industry maxium spray distance of 35 feet ### Firearms: Considerations and Caution While firearms are legally permissible for self-defense in many state parks, their efficacy in bear encounters comes with caveats. According to research, people defending themselves with firearms against grizzlies suffer injury about 50% of the time. By contrast, those using bear spray escape injury most of the time, and when injuries occur, they tend to be less severe with shorter attack durations. For a firearm to be effective against bears, it must be a large-caliber weapon such as a 12-gauge shotgun or a .300 mag rifle. These are unwieldy to carry outdoors.  It is also difficult to reach the weapon in time and aim at a fast-charging bear. Also note that that more people are injured by the guns they carry than by bears.  This doesn’t mean that firearms can’t be a good self-defense against bears – but you need to be a skilled shooter *and* should also carry bear spray. ### Other Self-Defense Weapons Against Bears During a predatory attack from a bear where you don’t have bear spray or a firearm, you should fight back with whatever you have. For example, there was a case where a man [fought off an attacking bear by stabbing it in the neck with his pocketknife](https://www.outsideonline.com/podcast/fight-bear-pocketknife-colin-dowler/). There was another [incident](https://www.thedailybeast.com/wyoming-college-wrestlers-fight-off-fierce-grizzly-bear-in-surprise-attack) where two college wrestlers fought off the bear with kicks and blows.  And two thru-hikers were able to [deter a bear following them by throwing rocks at it](https://thetrek.co/appalachian-trail/i-survived-a-bear-attack-on-the-appalachian-trail/). The bottom line? Bring bear spray but, if you have no other option, fight back with whatever you have. ## Further Bear Safety Resources: - [Bear Safety Seminar Video by Bear Ecologist Dr. Tom Smith](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PExlT-5VU-Y): This video does a great job of simplifying the risks and what to do if you see a bear. - [Bear Attacks: Their Causes and Avoidance](https://amzn.to/3TBENPp/): A book by Stephen Herrero, considered one of the world’s foremost experts on bear safety. - [NOLS Bear Essentials: Hiking and Camping in Bear Country](https://amzn.to/3GTOMrJ): This book covers everything you need to know from identifying bears to setting up camp properly to be bear safe outdoors. - [Bearsmart.com](http://www.bearsmart.com/): Lots of good advice on this website about bear safety, including statistics and research-based practices. --- Image credits: “[mmmm](https://www.flickr.com/photos/laura-kali/7277380366/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [OnceAndFutureLaura](https://www.flickr.com/people/laura-kali/), “[Fruit!](https://www.flickr.com/photos/laura-kali/8920945342/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [OnceAndFutureLaura](https://www.flickr.com/people/laura-kali/) “[Go Away, Bear!, 4 of 9](https://www.flickr.com/photos/jstephenconn/3029886860/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [J. Stephen Conn](https://www.flickr.com/people/jstephenconn/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety --- ### [Hiking Packing List: 12 Things to Always Have with You on the Trail](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-packing-list/) **Published:** February 22, 2017 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Not every hike is the same, nor is every hiker the same.  So, any two packing lists for hiking you see could be completely different. However, there are some things which you should *always* bring with you hiking – regardless of your experience, hike length, or hike location. Why are these items on the packing list? **Because you never know what could go wrong while hiking.**  Here are just some stories that I pulled from the recent news: - A mother and daughter had to be rescued after getting lost during what was supposed to be a “short hike” and ended up walking in circles for hours ([source](https://www.sentinelsource.com/news/local/mother-daughter-hikers-rescued-from-pisgah-state-park/article_42daedd3-ee68-58fb-880f-eae838d69cad.html)) - A 12-year old boy died from exposure to excessive heat during a hike in near Phoenix. ([source](https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/feb/17/charges-to-be-considered-in-death-of-12-year-old-h/)) - A teenager who got separated from his hiking group ended up spending three nights in the woods until he was rescued. ([source](http://www.timescolonist.com/news/local/victoria-hiker-lost-for-3-nights-found-cold-hungry-and-alive-1.9660636)) Note that not all hiking horror stories are from unexperienced hikers.  Even experienced hikers can succumb to injury, get lost, or have confrontations with wild animals. **While it is really unlikely that anything bad will happen while hiking,** **you still need to be prepared for anything!** This packing list consists of the absolutely necessary things to bring hiking so you can survive regardless of what happens. ## 1. Water You’ve got to stay hydrated! On a short hike, a liter or two should be enough.  Not sure? Find out [how to calculate how much water to bring hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/how-much-water-to-bring-hiking/). ## 2. Way of Purifying Water If you get lost, you’ll need more water than you anticipated.  Never drink water because the only thing that’s going to make being lost in the woods worse is *having diarrhea while being lost in the woods*.  I bring my [Sawyer Mini water filter](https://momgoescamping.com/sawyer-mini-water-filter-review/) with me backpacking because it can screw onto a water bottle and is super lightweight. ## 3. Whistle You blow this in case you get lost. A lot of hiking backpacks now have whistles built into the straps. ## 4. Weather Protection Depending on where you hike, this could mean: - **Rain jacket/poncho:** Weather can change really quickly.  Even if the forecast says it is going to be sunny, still bring a rain jacket.  Otherwise, you could end up wet and hypothermic. - **Sun screen and UV-protection lip balm** (seriously, it sucks when your lips get burnt!) - **A hat with a brim**: Keeps your eyes safe from sun and rain. Nothing like squinting through the elements! - **Layers of clothes:** Layers mean you can adjust body temperature easily! ## 5. Appropriate Footwear What constitutes as “appropriate” footwear varies depending on where you are going. For example, I almost always go hiking in forest mountains where my high-topped boots are good for the uneven terrain and give some protection against venomous snake bites. But those same boots were terrible when I went hiking in the jungles of Peru. I should have worn Wellingtons – especially since we had to cross a river 14 times.  I got sick of taking my boots off each time and just walked through the water.  My feet were prunes by the time I got back.  The Wellies would have been better protection against the zillions of venomous snakes there as well as the biting ants. ## 6. Headlamp That same jungle hike ended up taking 7 more hours than we anticipated.  I’m glad I had my headlamp so we could walk the last part of the trail out. Here are tips on [how to choose a good headlamp](https://momgoescamping.com/choosing-headlamp/). ## 7. Knife A knife is your ultimate survival tool.  You’ll need it for things like: - Making a featherstick so you can [make a fire in wet conditions](https://momgoescamping.com/make-fire-rain/) - Cutting bandages - Digging a cat hole for when you go to the bathroom (or,  better yet, use the knife to whittle a digging stick so you don’t have to immediately resharpen your knife!) - Peeling off strips of [birch bark to eat](http://willowhavenoutdoor.com/featured-wilderness-survival-blog-entries/5-trees-every-survivalist-should-know-why/) (because you’re such a badass survivalist that you know it’s edible…) - Cutting your arm off in case you get stuck under a fallen rock (okay, don’t really recommend this, but you might get a movie deal like [Aron Ralston](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aron_Ralston) afterwards 😉 ) ## 8. Food You’ll use up a lot of calories on a hike.  And, once blood sugar crashes, you’ll get cranky. So, do everyone a favor and bring some snacks along. ## 9. Map and Compass or GPS I personally don’t trust technology.  (What if the battery dies? What if it falls and breaks?)  So, I stick with a map and a compass when hiking.  There are plenty of hikers who use just GPS systems though – and they are certainly better if you are completely friggin’ lost and can’t find yourself on the map. If you can afford it, you might consider an advanced [outdoor location device](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-communication-devices/), such as the SPOT finder system. ## 10. Firestarter You need this in case you get lost or miscalculated hiking time have to spend an unplanned night outdoors.  The fire will keep you from freezing to death, allow you to cook food that you forage (which will probably be grubs unless you are a badass survivalist and know how to catch/skin game in the woods), and can serve as a signaling device too. ## 11. Mini First Aid Kit You don’t need to bring a lot – just the necessities to keep you alive in case of injury.  My dad brings just medical tape on his long hikes.  It can be used for covering wounds, securing a splint, or wrapping a sprained ankle. [My outdoor first aid kit checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-first-aid-checklist/) has a few more items. 🙂 Don’t forget about personal medications like an inhaler or Epi Pen! ## 12. Day Pack You’ll need a way to carry all of this gear.  You don’t need a fancy day pack for hiking, but some comfortable straps, side pockets, and a hip straps can go a long way towards making the hike better. ## Other Hiking Gear You Might Want to Bring These aren’t necessary, but they can certainly make the hike much more enjoyable and safer! - Hiking poles (read [the pros and cons of hiking poles](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-poles-pros-cons/) here) - Toilet paper - “Hygiene” shovel - Bug spray - Spare socks - Binoculars - Bag for trash (If you carry it in, you gotta carry it out!) - Field guide/route guidebook - Book to read at your destination - Notebook and pen - Extra food - Backpacking stove - Utensils for eating the food - Wet wipes (pack them out – do not bury!) - Quick-dry towel - Emergency blanket **Anything that you’d add to the list? I’d love to hear from you in the comments below!** --- Image credit: “Hiking” https://www.flickr.com/photos/franckmichel/14942703299/, ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by Franck\_Michel ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking **Tags:** checklist, gear, safety --- ### [Best Camp Booties for Cold Weather (Including Cheap UL Solutions)](https://momgoescamping.com/best-cold-weather-camp-shoes-booties/) **Published:** October 20, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I usually bring sandals to wear around camp when on backpacking trips. But, when backpacking cold and wet weather, the sandals simply don’t cut it.  My feet would end up cold and wet. Sure, I *could* just wear my normal hiking boots around camp.  But, aside from the fact that I like to let my feet air out after a long day of hiking, there’s the issue of those inevitable nighttime trips to go pee.  As one backpacker [commented](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/bc66lk/what_is_everyone_using_for_camp_shoes/), >  Once I’ve got dry socks on, I don’t want to take them off and slip on frozen shoes just to go to the bathroom or walk across my campsite. Luckily, there are a lot of good solutions for keeping your feet warm and dry as you walk around camp, even in mud, snow or really cold conditions.  Here are the best options, including some ultralight camp shoes and booties which don’t cost a fortune. ## Option 1: Camp Booties with Soles ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/camp-booties-for-cold-weather-with-soles-and-good-traction.jpg "camp booties for cold weather with soles and good traction - Mom Goes Camping")*From L to R Baffin Base Camp The North Face Thermoball booties and Acorn Slouch Boots* **Verdict:**  Terrible in wet or muddy conditions. Good for powdery snow *or* your sure the conditions will be dry –  but make sure you get a booties with a thick sole and good tread. Most “camp booties” are meant to be worn as socks: they are NOT meant to be worn outside.  But there are some camp booties which have soles, so you can wear them outside around camp too. The problem is that camp booties are *not* waterproof.  Sure, the “water-resistant” fabric might hold up against morning dew.  It’s usually good for walking around in powdery snowy too.  But you are completely screwed if it rains or is really muddy. Another issue is that the soles rarely have good tread on them –  you can easily slip trying to walk around on wet rocks, etc.  The booties with good tread will weigh more, so forget about ultralight options. And yet another downside?  Since you are walking around outside, the booties will get dirty – which means you can’t wear these same booties as pajama socks in your sleeping bag. **Below are some of the best camp booties.  They all have soles with decent tread.** - **[Western Mountaineering Expedition Booties](https://amzn.to/3MInzu6):** Down with water-resistant shell. They go up to your knees.  Great for snowy conditions.  But very EXPENSIVE! - **[Baffin Base Camp Bootie](https://amzn.to/3EY0mST):** These are great for powdery snow but definitely not for wet or rocky conditions. They have a 60D nylon upper, 400g wadding insulation inside, and the footbed is 1000D nylon with silicone slip resistant print.  The large size weighs around 8oz for the pair. - **[The North Face ThermoBall Traction Booties](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dthe%2Bnorth%2Bface%2Bthermoball%2Bbooties):** These are synthetic booties with a water-resistant finish. The rubber soles have excellent tread. Not for rainy or really wet conditions though, and a bit heavy (around 16oz for the pair).  There are men’s and women’s versions. - **[Dearfoams women’s bootie slippers](https://amzn.to/3D7fHPN):** This brand makes a lot of really nice, warm booties out of wool and synthetics. They are fairly heavy but comfy and have very tough soles that can handle rocks.  The “sidewalls” mean they can handle some wet conditions. - **[Acorn Slouch Boots](https://amzn.to/3ScG7DR):** These are basically wool/synthetic socks with a rubber sole. They are made to be worn outside and have a sidewall so can withstand some amount of muddy or rainy weather. They are pretty lightweight and come in men’s and women’s sizes. ## 2. Waterproof Over-Boots + Booties ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/goosefeet-gear-over-booties-shell.jpg "goosefeet gear over booties shell - Mom Goes Camping")*Goosefeet Gear over bootie meant to be worn over their down booties* **Verdict:** Best all-around solution, but camping over-boots can be really expensive and there aren’t many options! Over-boots (aka over booties) are basically a shell layer for your down or synthetic bootie.  They ideally should be made out of a completely waterproof material and have a good non-slip sole. This solution is great because you can wear whatever insulating bootie you want.  Put the bootie on when walking around camp and then just slip it off when it’s time to get into the tent.  Since the over-bootie keeps the bootie clean and dry, you can wear the booties for sleeping (obviously not ideal if they get sweaty from walking around camp though). The only issue is that there aren’t many options for waterproof over-booties.  Goosefeet Gear makes some good ones.  They have two sole options:  thinner but lighter (2oz in medium size) or thicker but rugged (4.5oz in medium size).  You can [get them here](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=8aa14f51-1fb2-4c30-b785-1c6c0a96cd31&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.garagegrowngear.com%2Fcollections%2Fsocks-booties%2F). ## 3. Waterproof Shoe Covers + Insulating Layer ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/diy-cold-weather-camp-slippers.jpg "diy cold weather camp slippers - Mom Goes Camping")*The slippers I made out of silicone shoe covers + old insoles + wool socks*![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/diy-cold-weather-camp-slippers-on-feet.jpg "diy cold weather camp slippers on feet - Mom Goes Camping")*Heres what they looked like on my feet It was raining and they kept my feet dry* **Verdict:** Cheap solution which works with lots of socks and booties, but cheap covers won’t hold up long and they are hard to size correctly. Instead of getting camp over-booties (they are pricy!), you can just get some cheap waterproof shoe covers instead.   There are tons of options. For example, I got some silicone shoe covers for rain ([like these](https://amzn.to/3TdvwtZ)).  The biggest problem was that they don’t have a sole: my feet would get cold walking on the cold ground.  So, I put an old pair of insoles inside of them.  Then I wore them over my wool socks.  This was perfect for camping in rainy October weather.  It wouldn’t be warm enough for snow though. These “camp shoes” weighed just 3.5oz (plus the weight of my wool socks, which I wear when sleeping anyway) and cost under $10. **Other solutions include:** - **Wearing sandwich bags over your booties:** You can’t really get cheaper or lighter than sandwich bags – but the bags will quickly tear. - **Contractor shoe covers ([like these](https://amzn.to/3Th4lhH)):** These probably don’t fit well and your feet will slide around in them, but they are very cheap and lightweight. - **Waterproof overshoes ([like these](https://amzn.to/3S8NU5K)):** These are durable and have a sole, but are usually heavy. Also, they are meant to be worn on boots, not over booties or socks, so it’s hard to get a good fit. ![](https://ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&language=en_US&l=li3&o=1&a=B07C89K3C4) ## 4. Waterproof Shoes ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/crocs-for-backpacking.jpg "crocs for backpacking - Mom Goes Camping")*Filthy feet in Crocs on the PCT* **Verdict:** Cheap and easy solution, but most waterproof shoes are heavy and not very packable. Another solution is to just get some waterproof shoes to wear around camp.  Crocs seem to be the most popular option.  There are Crocs without holes and ones which are lined with fleece to keep your feet warm. Crocs definitely are comfy and hold up on rocky terrain.  But they are heavy and really bulky.  I’ve heard of people using swim shoes as camp shoes, but those are usually water-resistant and not actually waterproof Also, if things were to get *really* wet or muddy, your feet would likely end up getting wet -though you could wear them with a [waterproof sock like Seal Skinz](https://amzn.to/3Dab3k4). ## 5. Warm Sock + Something to Line the Inside Of your Boot If you don’t mind wearing your boots around camp, then here’s a simple solution: - Bring something to line the *inside* of your boot. Bread bags work well.  So do Reynolds oven bags. - When you get to camp, take off your boots. Loosen the laces.  You may need to remove your insole too. - Put your liners inside the boots. - Now put on your warm, dry camp socks and slide them into the lined boots. Even if your boots are completely wet, your feet will stay dry. Would I prefer to let my feet air out after a long day of hiking? Yes.  But this solution is stupidly cheap and really ultralight. **Got any better solutions for cold-weather camp shoes and booties? Let us know in the comments below.** --- Sources: **<https://www.reddit.com/r/WildernessBackpacking/comments/trvcvm/everyones_favorite_cold_weather_camp_shoe_system/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/WildernessBackpacking/comments/erkl0c/camp_shoes_for_winter_backpacking/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/df8bmj/best_camp_shoes_for_cold_weather/> <http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?21722-My-advice-on-winter-camping-footwear-and-cold-feet-(part-1-of-2)-Long> <https://www.rokslide.com/forums/threads/camp-shoe-in-the-snow.205839/> Image credits: “[Tips for Winter Camping.](https://www.flickr.com/photos/vastateparksstaff/45948115665/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [vastateparksstaff](https://www.flickr.com/people/vastateparksstaff/), “[PCT SoCal008.JPG](https://www.flickr.com/photos/rjtrick/260119882/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [**rjtrick**](https://www.flickr.com/people/rjtrick/)** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [Do Kids Need Hiking Boots? (Spoiler: They Probably Don’t)](https://momgoescamping.com/do-kids-need-hiking-boots/) **Published:** December 23, 2024 **Author:** Diane **Content:** The outdoor industry will tell you that you need all sorts of clothing, gear and footwear if you want to get outside with your kids. Some of this gear really does make a big difference in helping you enjoy nature together.  But hiking boots are *not* one of them.   Here’s why and what your kids should wear instead of hiking boots. ## Why I Don’t Buy Hiking Boots for My Kids ### Hiking Boots Are Hot and Heavy Even though boot technology is a lot better, hiking boots are still big and bulky.  It’s not easy for little legs to wear such large and heavy footwear!  They will get tired faster. Boots are also hot and can easily get uncomfortable for kids. The last thing you want is your child to associate hiking with tiredness and discomfort.  They will start to hate it.  It’s better to have them wear *comfortable* footwear than dedicated hiking boots. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/kids-hiking-boots-low-top.jpg "kids hiking boots low top - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/kids-hiking-boots-low-top.jpg)Even these low top hiking shoes were hot so my daughter took them off during breaks ### They Are Expensive Hiking boots for kids are expensive, especially considering that they will grow out of them in a year.  If your kids are young, they might even grow out of the boots in a *season.* That adds up to a considerable expense. And, for the reason below, you shouldn’t pass hiking boots down to a younger child like you would with jackets or sleeping bags.  You’d have to buy new boots for each child! ### Secondhand Boots Aren’t a (Good) Option My kids get almost exclusively secondhand clothing but I don’t buy them secondhand boots.  It’s not a hygiene issue. It’s a foot issue. Once someone has worn footwear, the cushioning gets compressed and sole shapes to their feet.  If you give you kids secondhand hiking boots, it could actually affect their feet! Further, most secondhand sellers don’t allow returns. If the secondhand boots arrive and aren’t comfortable for your child, there’s no getting your money back. ### Probably Don’t Need Ankle Support Your kids probably aren’t hiking on very difficult trails or carrying heavy packs, so they don’t really need the extra ankle support that boots provide.   Even a lot of hardcore backpackers who are going on difficult trails while carrying packs have switched away from boots! ### Running in Boots = More Falls Young kids love to run when in nature.  Boots simply aren’t meant for this. They limit ankle mobility, which in turn means the body has to compensate by using the hip and knee joints more.  As a result, running in boots is more physically demanding.  Factor in the clunkiness of boots and your kids are more likely to fall and injure themselves. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/kids-hiking-boots-love-to-run.jpg "kids hiking boots love to run - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/kids-hiking-boots-love-to-run.jpg)This wouldnt be possible in hiking boots ## Situations Where Kids Actually Need Hiking Boots **If your child is:** - Backpacking for multiple days - Hiking a difficult trail - Carrying a heavy pack - Older so doesn’t do much running *or* - Asking for hiking boots… Then it might make sense to get them hiking boots. **A note about backpacking with kids:** Pack some hiking sandals for them to wear at camp. This will let their feet rest and they can run around easier without splatting on their face. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/kids-hiking-boots-kid-stoked.jpg "kids hiking boots kid stoked - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/kids-hiking-boots-kid-stoked.jpg)This little hiker who tackled a tough climb probably benefited from having hiking boots ## What to Use Instead of Hiking Boots If your kids don’t wear boots hiking, what should they wear?  Here are some good options. ### Their Normal Sneakers Unless it’s a very challenging hike, your child’s everyday sneakers should be fine.  As an added bonus, you already know they are comfortable and don’t have to worry about breaking them in ahead of time to prevent blisters. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/kids-hiking-boots-sneakers-are-fine.jpg "kids hiking boots sneakers are fine - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/kids-hiking-boots-sneakers-are-fine.jpg)My daughter hiked a semi tough trail to 6000ft in her sneakers And yes shes [wearing cotton hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/is-it-okay-to-wear-cotton-hiking/) ### Trail Runners Compared to normal sneakers, trail runners have much better traction.  They also are more breathable than most sneakers.  This is particularly useful when your child falls into a stream because trail runners will dry out faster than boots. If you go hiking or backpacking often, then save some money by buying trail runners as your child’s everyday sneakers too.  Kids outgrow them before the tread gets worn down, so that’s not an issue. **Some good brands of trail runners for kids are:** - Salomon ([Amazon](https://amzn.to/3ULgv5V), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fb%2Fsalomon%2Fc%2Fkids-footwear%3Fir%3Dcategory%253Akids-footwear%26pagesize%3D90%26r%3Dc%253Bb)) - Merrell ([Amazon](https://amzn.to/42ObY50), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fb%2Fmerrell%2Fc%2Fkids-footwear%3Fir%3Dcategory%253Akids-footwear%26pagesize%3D90%26r%3Dc%253Bb)) - Addidas Terrex ([Amazon](https://amzn.to/49wniEW)) - Saucony ([Amazon](https://amzn.to/49IApTF), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fb%2Fsaucony%2Fc%2Fkids-footwear%3Fir%3Dcategory%253Akids-footwear%26pagesize%3D90%26r%3Dc%253Bb)) [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/kids-hiking-boots-trail-runners.jpg "kids hiking boots trail runners - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/kids-hiking-boots-trail-runners.jpg)Trail runners are arguably the most comfortable option in dry conditions ### Hiking Sandals In summertime, hiking in sandals is probably the best option for kids.   They don’t necessarily have to be specific “hiking” sandals.  Just choose ones which have good support and are sturdy.  No flip-flops! [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/kids-hiking-boots-sandals-better.jpg "kids hiking boots sandals better - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/kids-hiking-boots-sandals-better.jpg) ### Winter Boots In cold or really muddy weather, winter boots can pass for hiking boots. The tread allows for good traction and the fit is better than rubber wellington boots. **Pro Tip:** Choose unlined winter boots for your kids. Have them wear really thick socks with them in winter.  By the time spring comes and their feet have grown a bit, the boots still fit with thinner socks on.  They might even still fit in summertime with thin sports socks. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/kids-hiking-boots-5-year-old-in-boots.jpg "kids hiking boots 5 year old in boots - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/kids-hiking-boots-5-year-old-in-boots.jpg)My daughter using her winter boots for hiking on this particularly cold and wet day **Weigh in! Do you think hiking boots are worth it for kids? Let us know in the comments section below.** --- ###### Resources: <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9231798/>, <https://hardtokillfitness.co/blogs/fitness-articles/a-brief-guide-to-running-in-boots>, <https://thenaturalparentmagazine.com/ok-kids-wear-secondhand-shoes/>, <https://outdoors.com/ankle-support-myth-or-fact/>, <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1323436/> ###### Image credits: “[Ther Kids On The Capitol Gorge Trail](https://www.flickr.com/photos/joeshlabotnik/52051383459/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [Joe Shlabotnik](https://www.flickr.com/people/joeshlabotnik/), “[20200801181444\_0214 Hiking na Senhora do](https://www.flickr.com/photos/jnvasconcelos/50302651262/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [jnvasconcelos](https://www.flickr.com/people/jnvasconcelos/), ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking --- ### [RightOnTrek Backpacking Meals Review](https://momgoescamping.com/rightontrek-review/) **Published:** May 27, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I generally don’t buy backpacking meals: Most are overpriced, loaded with sodium and artificial ingredients, and the texture ends up mushy.  But you can’t really beat the convenience that comes with pre-made meals.  So I was excited to try [RightOnTrek](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=bbc1a241-6b21-488b-a0f7-ef6725d20066&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Frightontrek.com%2F), a new brand of dehydrated backpacking meals which prides itself in making chef-cooked, healthy backpacking meals that are also eco-conscious. **Full disclosure:** RightOnTrek sent me their meal plans to try for free. I’m vegan so I had my dad and sister test out the non-vegan meals on a multi-day hiking trip they did together. [![RightOnTrek backpacking meals](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/right-on-trek-meals-packaged-min-1.jpg "right on trek meals packaged-min - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/right-on-trek-meals-packaged-min-1.jpg) **[Shop RightOnTrek Here](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=bbc1a241-6b21-488b-a0f7-ef6725d20066&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Frightontrek.com%2F)** ## RightOnTrek Overview: What Makes Them Different? - Chef-cooked, fresh each season - Free meal planning tool - Calculates calories for you!!! - Healthy meals and snacks - Good value - Will ship to resupply points ## RightOnTrek Free Meal Planning Tool Let’s start with RightOnTrek’s free meal planning tool. This is the easiest way to order backpacking food from them. Here’s how it works. ### 1. Set Number of Days and People When you go to the RightOnTrek website, you’ll see a section that says “Start Creating a Multi-Day Meal Plan.”  Just set the number of days and people. Then click “Start My Plan”. [![RightOnTrek meal planner step 1](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Adventure-Meals-by-RightOnTrek-1.jpg "RightOnTrek meal planner step 1 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Adventure-Meals-by-RightOnTrek-1.jpg) ### 2. Set Preferences Next you’ll be asked to set your preferences.  The calorie amount is set to 2400 by default (which is a good amount for most backpacking trips) but you can change it.[![RightOnTrek meal planner step 2 preferences](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Adventure-Meals-Personalize-Your-Meal-Plan-2.jpg "RightOnTrek meal planner step 2 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Adventure-Meals-Personalize-Your-Meal-Plan-2.jpg) ### 3. View Your Meal Plan The tool will automatically generate a meal plan for you based on your preferences.  The plan includes breakfast, dinner, beverages and snacks – all of which total up to however many calories you set.   Below you can see a screenshot of what one of their meal plans looks like.  It will look different on their website — I had to edit it to fit it here. 🙂 [![RightOnTrek meal plan](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/right-on-trek-5-day-meal-plan-example-min.jpg "RightOnTrek meal plan - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/right-on-trek-5-day-meal-plan-example-min.jpg) ### 4. Swap Products If you don’t like/want one of the products in the meal plan, you can swap it out for something different.  Just select the little swap button and you’ll be able to choose options.  It’s pretty simple to figure out. [![RightOnTrek swap products](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/swap-button.jpg "swap button - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/swap-button.jpg) ### 5. Set Shipping Addresses A cool thing about RightOnTrek is that they will ship to food pickup locations. This saves you the trouble of having to ship the items yourself.  Of course, you can also just have all of the food sent to your own address. ## Can I Buy RightOnTrek Meals By Themselves? Yes, you can buy any RightOnTrek meal by itself and not as part of the meal plan.  Just go to the “Meals” option in the menu and then select “Visit Our Store.” Unfortunately, the cost of the meals goes up when you buy them individually instead of as part of the meal plan.  Regular-sized dinners (500-600 calories) cost about $7-$8.  There’s also an option to get a larger portion size (700-800 calories), which will cost you about $10-$12 per entrée. **[Visit the RightOnTrek Store Here](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=bbc1a241-6b21-488b-a0f7-ef6725d20066&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Frightontrek.com%2F)** ## What You Get When your meals plan arrives from RightOnTrek, they package the items in bags labeled Day 1, Day 2, etc.  This makes it incredibly convenient: just put the bags in your pack and go. What I *don’t* like about this method though is that all snacks remain in their original packaging.  Personally, I usually remove all packaging from snacks *before* my trip so I don’t have to worry about carrying out candy wrappers (or worrying that I might accidentally litter).  Of course, you can always remove the wrappers from the snacks – such as putting them all into one giant bag.  But then you’ll have to pace yourself so you don’t eat more than your daily allotment. [![RightOnTrek day 1 packaged](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/right-on-trek-meals-packaged-day-1-min.jpg "right on trek meals packaged day 1-min - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/right-on-trek-meals-packaged-day-1-min.jpg)[![food from rightontrek](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/all-the-food-for-day-1-right-on-trek-min.jpg "all the food for day 1 right on trek-min - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/all-the-food-for-day-1-right-on-trek-min.jpg) ## How to Prepare RightOnTrek Meals A big problem with backpacking meals is that ingredients rehydrate at different rates.  So, if you try to boil the entire meal, you’ll usually end up with a blob of mush.   This isn’t an issue with some types of meals (oatmeal, pilaf, or stews).  However, backpacking lasagna and most other pasta will always come out as a nasty mush. RightOnTrek solves this problem by using a multi-step cooking process for some meals.  This means that: 1. Meal ingredients are divided into two pouches. 2. First you rehydrate the sauce/topping. 3. Then you boil the noodles/carb separately. 4. Mix the sauce/topping into the noodles. 5. Add seasonings from included packets The result is a meal with a *really* good texture.  But it also means that some of the meals are more complicated to make.  I personally don’t mind this method (it’s how I prepare most of my DIY dehydrate meals – the sauce gets rehydrated separately from the carbohydrates).  But some backpackers (my dad, for example) would rather have something simpler to prepare. It’s worth noting that not all RightOnTrek meals use the two-step prep process.   The Shephard’s Pie and Gado Gado Peanut noodles, for example, just need to be simmered for a few minutes.  Easy peasy. [![right on trek spicy ramen soup](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/right-on-trek-spicy-ramen-soup-min.jpg "right on trek spicy ramen soup-min - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/right-on-trek-spicy-ramen-soup-min.jpg) ## How Do RightOnTrek Meals Taste? Compared to other brands of backpacking meals, RightOnTrek entrees have way more flavor.  The meals include flavor packets like lime and sriracha sauce, so you can adjust the flavor to your own liking.   However, one of the main reasons that RightOnTrek meals taste good is the texture. Texture is a HUGE part of food taste.  Something can have an awesome flavor but, if the texture is mushy, it will taste nasty.  The two-part cooking process of some RightOnTrek meals ensures that the texture is really good.  You can actually identify the individual ingredients.   Yes, it is more complicated to make the meals this way but it pays off with a better-tasting meal. ![spicy ramen soup rightontrek texture](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/spicy-ramen-soup-rightontrek-texture.jpg "spicy ramen soup rightontrek texture - Mom Goes Camping")*Texture matters when it comes to taste* ## Pros &  Cons of RightOnTrek Meals **Pros** - Incredibly convenient meal planner - Calculates calories and weight for you - Much healthier than other options - Good value - Vegan, vegetarian and gluten-free options - Flavorful and great texture - Eco-friendly packaging - Cool brand with good values **Cons** - Two-step cooking process for some meals - Not as good value if you buy meals individually - Can’t “cook” in the pouch - Not much variety for meals - Lots of packaging ## RightOnTrek Meal Options Note that RightOnTrek is still a new brand.  Their representative said they will be coming out with new meal options.  I’ve listed what they currently have offered.  It’s already changed since I first tried them out. ### Breakfast - Classic oatmeal (GF) - Peanut butter cup oatmeal (Vegan, GF) - Banana bread oatmeal (Vegan, GF) - Cranberry walnut oatmeal (Vegan, GF) - Cream of wheat porridge ### Dinners - Beef lasagna - Zesty ramen noodle soup - General Tsoy’s mountain rice (Vegan, GF) - Spicy peanut noodle soup (Vegan) - Backcountry chili (GF) - Gado gado noodles (Vegan) - Hearty Shephard’s pie (Vegan, GF) - Cheesy mashed potatoes with chicken (GF) - Chicken coconut curry rice (GF) ### Snacks There are tons of snack options.  These include trail mix, cookies, fruit bars, protein bars, olives, cheese, crackers, jerky (including vegan jerky!), tuna packets, sausage, nut butter, chocolate, candy and sweets. It’s a good mix of healthy snacks (jerky, trail mix…) and unhealthy options (Sour Patch Kids…). ## RightOnTrek Cost Breakdown Even if you buy RightOnTrek meals individually, it still ends up being cheaper than most other backpacking food brands.  For example, Mountain House meals cost $1-$2 more per meal for the same amount of calories – yet the quality of RightOnTrek meals is way better and much healthier. As for the cost of RightOnTrek  meal plans, I did a quick calculation of how much it would cost me to buy each of the snacks individually.  The cost ends up being pretty much exactly the same.  It breaks down to be about $1 per 100 calories.  Overall, it’s a very good deal. ## Would I Recommend RightOnTrek? RightOnTrek is a great option for beginner backpackers as well as anyone who appreciates the convenience of having all calories calculated for you.  I definitely recommend them over most other backpacking food brands since the company is eco-friendly and has good morals. If you are a more experienced backpacker or going on a longer trip though, I wouldn’t rely on just RightOnTrek alone.  You’ll quickly get bored of eating the same meals and snacks.  Instead, I’d combine some of their meals with some DIY meals and snacks you picked out yourself. **[Visit RightOnTrek here](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=bbc1a241-6b21-488b-a0f7-ef6725d20066&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Frightontrek.com%2F)** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Food --- ### [Are Hiking Socks Worth It?](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-socks-worth-it/) **Published:** January 1, 2025 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Considering that you can buy a pair of socks for less than $1 at some stores, it seems ridiculous to shell out $20 (or more!) for a pair of “hiking” socks.  While I personally don’t spend this much on my hiking socks, I have converted over and consider myself a bit of a sock snob. If you still aren’t sure whether you want to pay the money for expensive socks, here’s what you need to know about hiking socks vs. regular socks, features that are worth paying for and the best brands. ## Why Regular Socks Are Terrible for Hiking Most regular socks are usually made of a blend of cotton with some elastic materials thrown in for stretch.  While cotton socks are good enough for most everyday activities and even short hikes, they are  pretty terrible for long hikes.  The cotton absorbs moisture and holds it against your skin.  The moisture causes the skin on your feet to get wet, which in turn leads to blisters.  As one hiker said of his cotton socks, “If I was wearing cotton socks while keeping my boots on for 8+ hours I feel that I just went swimming with my boots on.” [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/drying-out-socks.jpg "drying out socks - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/drying-out-socks.jpg)Cotton socks absorb water like a sponge and take forever to dry out ## Hiking Sock Material The main thing which makes hiking socks stand apart from regular socks is material. They also usually made of wool, nylon, polyester or a blend of these materials.  These materials don’t retain water like cotton does. Unlike cotton, the materials will wick moisture away from your feet, meaning you are less likely to get blisters.  Wool is by far the most popular choice, especially for winter hiking, because it is naturally antibacterial and insulates even when wet. ## Features of Hiking Socks While it is possible to get a cheap pair of wool socks or polyester socks to wear for hiking, “real” hiking socks will also have lots of cool features.  These include: - **Seamless design:** This means that there are no seams to rub on your feet and cause blisters. - **Reinforced heel and toe areas:** Many brands reinforce the heels and toes of their socks so they stand up to the abuse of hiking better. - **Heel tabs:** The heel tab means the back of the sock is slightly higher. I love this feature because it means I can wear quarter length socks without the back of my boots rubbing against my ankle.  The tab also keeps socks from slipping down. - **Weight:** Hiking socks come in a wide variety of weights (thickness). This is especially important if you are [wearing two pairs of socks to prevent blisters](https://momgoescamping.com/wear-two-pairs-socks-prevent-blisters-hiking/)**.** - **Cooling technology:** These socks usually consist of a wicking material and an exterior shell which helps the moisture evaporate quickly. Some socks also have cooling features like breathable mesh panels. - **Antimicrobial:** Materials like copper are woven into the sock to help kill microbes and thus prevent smells and foot infection. - **Waterproof:** Some socks are actually completely waterproof so you can splash through streams without your feet getting wet. - **Anti-tick:** You can buy socks treated with [permethrin](https://momgoescamping.com/permethrin/) which will kill ticks on contact so they can’t crawl up your legs. ## But Are Hiking Socks Worth the Cost? It’s easy to think that they are hyped up and overpriced. However, most serious hikers will swear by their hiking socks.  As one hiker [said](https://www.reddit.com/r/CampingandHiking/comments/47tbhk/what_is_your_favorite_hiking_sock/) of his expensive Darn Tough socks, “*You won’t really get it ‘til you wear them*.”  Not only do good hiking socks help prevent blisters, but they have other benefits like being able to dry out quickly and preventing odors – which is definitely worth it when you are thru-hiking and only brought along a few pairs of socks that you occasionally wash in a creek. On top of that, many good brands of hiking socks have a lifetime warranty.  Even the ones which don’t will still outlast cheap hiking socks.  When you factor in longevity — the fact you’ll pay for multiple pairs of cheap socks before your good hiking socks wear out — then hiking socks actually pay off in the long run. **The bottom line:** Cheap cotton socks are fine for occasional hikers or short hikes in mild weather. If you are serious about hiking or are going on a longer backpacking trip, then hiking socks are definitely worth the cost.  The most popular brand, Darn Tough, even has a lifetime guarantee on their socks so it actually ends up being more affordable than regular socks. ## Best Brands of Hiking Socks Below are the best brands of hiking socks.  Yes, most of them are pretty pricy (though they often end up costing less than cheap ones because they last so much longer).  If you still don’t want to shell out the cash for expensive socks, check out these [best cheap hiking socks](https://momgoescamping.com/cheap-hiking-socks/). ### 1. [Darn Tough](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F825041%2Fdarn-tough-hiker-micro-crew-cushion-socks-womens) ![are darn tough socks worth it?](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/darn-tough-socks.jpg "darn tough socks - Mom Goes Camping") These are by far the best brand of hiking socks. Their mid weight, crew height socks seem to be the most popular with hikers.  Their Hike Light socks are also popular for summer hiking. Darn Tough socks aren’t even that expensive when you consider they have a *lifetime warranty* and hold up.  As one hiker said, *“I walked over a quarter of the AT wearing the same pair of DT socks in 2012 and I still have them and they still have cushion*.”  And another hiker said, “*I live and die by Darn Tough socks. I own a couple pairs of Smartwool and Icebreaker socks and they are very good, but for me DarnTough is in a league all its own. Well worth the money and their lifetime guarantee is legit*.” --- ### 2. [Icebreaker](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fb%2Ficebreaker%2Fc%2Fwomens-socks) These fit people with wide feet better than Darn Tough socks, which is why some hikers prefer them over that brand.   They also have a lifetime guarantee plus a comfort guarantee. Available at [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fb%2Ficebreaker%2Fc%2Fwomens-socks) and [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3BHqDG1). --- ### 3. [SmartWool Socks](https://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=ae1f22543114472537ac8881b07ae71e&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=sporting&keywords=SmartWool%20hiking%20socks) These tend to be thinner than Darn Tough socks, so are a good pick for hot weather hiking or when wearing trail runners instead of boots.  The SmartWool PHD running socks are a favorite for summer hiking.  Socks are guaranteed for up to 2 years after purchase. --- ### 4. [Injinji socks](https://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=440c538214ed1e28439df3b35882a0e2&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=sporting&keywords=Injinji%20toe%20socks) Toesocks help prevent sweatiness between the toes.  They have a trail weight sock.  However, their liner sock is really popular and often worn below a Darn Tough sock. --- ### 5. [DeFeet Wool Socks](https://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=0e18dcf85df2ad5e8623b893dcebbca8&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=sporting&keywords=DeFeet%20Wool%20Socks) This is another brand of hiking socks which fits wide feet well. Many professional hikers swear by the DeFeet Wooleator sock for mild-to-cool temperatures.  And their cycling socks are great for hiking in very hot, humid climates. They also have some fun colors and designs. --- ### 6. [REI Socks](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fb%2Frei-co-op%2Fc%2Fwomens-socks%3Fir%3Dcategory%3Awomens-socks%26pagesize%3D90%26r%3Dc%3Bb) ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/rei-coolmax-hiking-socks.jpg "rei coolmax hiking socks - Mom Goes Camping") REI makes a lot of good socks for reasonable prices. If you don’t like Merino socks because they are too heavy and take too long to dry, then you’ll probably love their CoolMax socks.  They dry insanely quickly, especially if you go with the lightweight or ultralight socks.  REI socks also aren’t as pricy as some other hiking sock brands. --- ### 7. [FITS Socks](https://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=867c63481faca86b9b02a105b8c2e910&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=sporting&keywords=FITS%20Socks) ![FITS hiking socks](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/fits-sock-for-hiking.jpg "fits sock for hiking - Mom Goes Camping") If you have issues with socks pulling on your toes or fitting weirdly, then FITS socks is the way to go.  They are very stretchy and do a good job of forming to the shape of your foot.  Not everyone will like the almost compression-like feeling of these socks though. **How much are you willing to pay for hiking socks? Let us know in the comments section below.** --- Image credits: “[Pat’s socks](https://www.flickr.com/photos/christinehawks/5865125407/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [christinejwarner](https://www.flickr.com/people/christinehawks/) “[Darn Tough](https://www.flickr.com/photos/zoes_pictures/6952968999/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [eoz\_15](https://www.flickr.com/people/zoes_pictures/): c © Zoe Rudisill 2011 Resources: <https://www.reddit.com/r/BuyItForLife/comments/5qrj14/forget_darn_tough_socks_icebreaker_merino/>, <https://www.reddit.com/r/geology/comments/4iw433/advice_on_wool_socks_for_summer_hiking/>, <https://www.reddit.com/r/CampingGear/comments/9ll1sy/your_experience_with_hiking_socks_in_general/>, <https://www.reddit.com/r/CampingandHiking/comments/22fdf0/what_type_of_socks_does_everyone_wear/>, <https://www.reddit.com/r/CampingandHiking/comments/58ae17/bestrecommended_hiking_socks/>, <https://www.reddit.com/r/CampingandHiking/comments/6im07r/what_are_the_best_hiking_socks/>, <https://www.reddit.com/r/BuyItForLife/comments/68r4co/do_you_really_need_25_merino_hiking_socks_yes/>, <https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/auytgw/have_you_found_the_perfect_hiking_sock_or_could/>, ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** feet, socks --- ### [Why Does This Merino Base Layer Cost 2x More than Other Brands???](https://momgoescamping.com/why-merino-base-layer-cost-2x-more/) **Published:** November 26, 2025 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Merino wool is an awesome material with great properties like wicking sweat away from your body, helping regulate body temperature and not smelling terrible after 20 minutes of hiking like synthetics. Considering that it comes from a specific breed of sheep, it’s no surprise that Merino wool costs more than factory-made synthetic materials. **But why do some brands of Merino wool cost so much more than others???** **Is there really a difference in quality?  Or is it all just a marketing scam to get you to pay for a brand name?** Yes, brand name probably is a factor in pricing.  But, if you look closely, you’ll see that there actually are significant differences between the quality of Merino wool clothing.  Here, I’ll go over them by comparing three different base layer tops.  Or you can watch the video. 🙂 Also read: [Is Merino wool worth it?](https://momgoescamping.com/is-merino-wool-worth-it/) ## Cheap vs. Mid-Priced vs. Expensive Merino Base Layer Tops I have three Merino base layer tops that I will compare. Note that the tops are turned inside out in the pictures.  It’s easier to see some of the differences when they are like this.  Also, retailers change prices regularly.  Below are the approximate prices for the tops at the time of writing. **Cheap Top: $40** [![cheap merino base layer top](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/cheap-merino-base-layer-top.jpg "cheap merino base layer top - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/cheap-merino-base-layer-top.jpg) **Mid-Priced Top: $60** (I forgot to take a picture of this one while outside, so here’s the manufacturer’s pic :)) [![mid priced merino base layer top](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/mid-priced-merino-base-layer-top.jpg "mid priced merino base layer top - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/mid-priced-merino-base-layer-top.jpg) **Expensive Top: $100** [![expensive merino base layer top](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/expensive-merino-top.jpg "expensive merino top - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/expensive-merino-top.jpg) ### Merino Percentage When comparing Merino wool clothes, first look at what they are made out of.  A lot of them aren’t 100% Merino.  There are situations when you actually *want* the shirt to be part synthetic (better durability, for example).  But Merino is almost always going to be more expensive than a synthetic, so 100% Merino clothes simply cost more. - **Cheap Top:** 53% Merino wool, 47% synthetic - **Mid-Priced Top:** 100% Merino - **Expensive Top:** 100% Merino As you can see, the cheap top is almost half synthetic materials.  The mid-priced and expensive tops are 100% Merino. ### Weight of the Merino The weight of Merino clothing is measured in grams per square meter (g/m2).  A higher number means there are more fibers and thus the material will be thicker and (usually) warmer. Heavy weight Merino products are going to cost more simply because they have more material in them. - **Cheap Top:** Weight not listed but probably around 120g/m2 - **Mid-Price Top:** Weight also not listed but probably around 200g/m2 - **Expensive Top:** 240g/m2 in chest area and 210g/m2 in the side panels It should be no surprise that the base layer which has the most Merino per square meter of fabric is also the most expensive. ### Knit Type Here’s where we will get somewhat technical.  There are a lot of different ways that fabrics are woven together.  The knit method affects how durable the material is. - **Cheap Top:** Interlock knit - **Mid-Price Top:** Interlock knit - **Expensive Top:** Jacquard knit chest area and interlock knit side panels What’s important to know is that **interlock fabrics only have 2-way stretch**.  This means you can pull the fabric apart in two ways and it will return to its original form.  But, if you pull it apart in the other direction, it will get stretched out and lose its form. By contrast, **jacquard knit has 4-way stretch**.  You can pull it side-to-side and up-down and it will return to its original state.  This means you get a better fit, which is especially important for Merino clothing going over curvy areas of your body!  It also means the clothing item won’t get stretched out and lose its form quickly.  And that’s important since base layers need to hug your body in order to wick well. Compared to interlock knitting, jacquard knit Merino is also more durable.  You’ll notice that the cheap Merino top already has several holes in it.  This is because of the weak knit and the thin material weight. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/edges-fraying-Copy.jpg "edges fraying - Copy - Mom Goes Camping")Edges fraying on the cheap Merino top![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/holes-in-cheap-base-layer-top-Copy.jpg "holes in cheap base layer top - Copy - Mom Goes Camping")It also has holes in it already I wouldnt put this one through the washing machine ### Construction Construction refers to how the Merino top was put together . As a general rule, clothing with more pieces of fabric will fit better.  But sewing multiple pieces of fabric together adds to the construction cost. In addition to the *number* of pieces, the shape of the fabric pieces also affects fit and durability.  For example, the expensive Merino base layer has a single long panel which goes all the way up the side.  This construction means you can lift your arms up without pulling on any seams or stretching the fabric out.  The expensive top also has a button-down (Henley) collar so you can adjust the ventilation.  This definitely adds to the production cost. Interestingly, the cheap Merino top actually has a better sleeve construction than the mid-priced one.  It’s got extra pieces of fabric to prevent the armpit area from getting stretched out.  But the extra fabric pieces means more seams – which could cause some uncomfortable chaffing.  The seamless design on the expensive Merino top is much better. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/armpit-will-get-stretched-out-has-seam.jpg "armpit will get stretched out has seam - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/armpit-will-get-stretched-out-has-seam.jpg)The armpit area of the mid priced Merino top will get stretched out eventually because of how its consructed![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/no-seam-under-armpits.jpg "no seam under armpits - Mom Goes Camping")The expensive Merino top doesnt have a seam under the armpits at all  It is also constructed in a way which prevents the armpits from getting stretched out from lifting your arms a nice feature if you climb ### Flat Seams Speaking of chaffing, let’s delve into *flat seams*.  This is a method of sewing pieces of fabric together so there is no ridge or bump on the seam area.  Serious hikers love this feature because it prevents painful chaffing. - **Cheap Top:** Has long seam up the sides and sleeves and also in the armpit area – a nightmare for chaffing when wearing a backpack on long treks! - **Mid-Price Top:** Mostly flat seams but one normal seam up the sides. It’s actually pretty soft though, so probably wouldn’t cause chaffing. - **Expensive Top:** Only flat seams. And even the thread they used is insanely soft (I think it’s also Merino) – much softer than the rough synthetic thread used on the cheaper tops. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/not-flat-seams.jpg "not flat seams - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/not-flat-seams.jpg)Look at all those seams under the armpit of the cheap Merino top That could cause some serious chaffing ### Ethics To increase production, a lot of wool farmers use a terrible practice called mulesing.  They basically cut the skin off of the sheep’s backside.   And then there are all the issues with how sheep are raised. In addition to animal welfare, there are also other potential ethical issues with clothing.  Were they made in a sweat shop? Or did workers get a fair wage and have safe working conditions?  Were harmful chemicals used to make the clothes? Or were sustainable practices used? Sadly, brands which use ethical practices are almost always going to cost more. The brand behind the cheap Merino base layer has been involved in sweat shop scandals.  But the expensive brand has loads of info about how they follow ethical practices and even certificates to prove it. - **Cheap Top:** Brand involved in sweat shop scandals. They do not have a non-mulesing certificate for all products but do try to source from countries where the practice isn’t common. - **Mid-Price Top:** I couldn’t find any info about the mid-priced brand. When brands are ethical, they like to brag about it – so lack of info means they probably aren’t the most ethical. - **Expensive Top:** The brand has loads of info about how they follow ethical practices and even certificates to prove it. ## Is It Really Worth Paying $100 for a Merino Base Layer??? If you do serious hiking, skiing or other outdoor sports *and* have the money to spare, it might be worth it. Good-quality Merino base layers more durable and thus often end up cheaper in the long run. Further, the quality can really improve your comfort and enjoyment of the activity. That said, I personally would never pay $100 for a base layer top.  I actually found all of these Merino tops at a secondhand store for less than $10 each! I also found some other expensive hiking clothes, like the Bergans hiking pants which cost over $300 new but I paid just $15 for.   But I might have actually screwed myself over with these “jackpots.” Here’s why: **Once you get used to good-quality base layers, it’s really hard to go back.** Armpit seams never used to bother me.  But, now that I’ve got a base layer with a seamless armpit, I can feel the difference.   Hopefully the expensive base layer will last me a really long time because I definitely don’t want to go back to wearing cheap base layers! The good news? You can usually find last-season’s base layers in outlet sections for huge discounts.  Check out [REI Outlet](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Frei-garage%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dmerino%2Bbase%2Blayer) for sales. ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [Best Women’s Sleeping Bags for Winter and Cold Weather](https://momgoescamping.com/best-womens-sleeping-bags-winter-cold-weather/) **Published:** October 12, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Compared to unisex bags, winter sleeping bags for women are usually shorter, wider in the hips and narrower in the shoulders.  The really good brands of women’s sleeping bags will even put extra insulation in key areas. As a petite woman, I can tell you that this really matters in freezing winter temperatures. If your sleeping bag doesn’t fit your body, the bag won’t be able to trap heat well.  You end up with cold pockets and a miserable night’s sleep. Also bear in mind that women tend to sleep colder than men.  So, a women’s sleeping bag should have more insulation to achieve the same warmth rating. So, if you are in the market for a new sleeping bag, I suggest you get one specifically designed for women. Unfortunatley, there still aren’t too many brands making women-specific sleeping bags.  I’ve sorted through them to find the best winter sleeping bags for women.  All of the women’s sleeping bags here have *comfort* ratings of 17 degrees F or less. **Also read:** - [How to Sleep Warmer in Your Sleeping Bag](https://momgoescamping.com/warmer-sleeping-bag/) - [Best Sleeping Bags for Short Women](https://momgoescamping.com/sleeping-bags-short-women-teen-girls/) ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/sleeping-bag-in-backpack-cold-weather-camping.jpg "why womens specific fit is important for sleeping bags in cold weater - Mom Goes Camping")*My feet are inside my pack because my old unisex winter bag was too large for me* ## Quick Picks **Best Overall: Big Agnes Torchlight UL** **Why?** The side zips on this allow you to get a perfect fit. It’s also lightweight and compact for a winter sleeping bag. **Available at:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3tsmCAP) and [Campsaver](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=358fd954-c6b8-44a1-9ca9-aaad445d2dfb&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.campsaver.com%2Fs%2Fbig-agnes-torchlight-womens) **Runner Up:** **Nemo Disco 15** **Why?** Awesome features like vents and waterproof footbox all at an affordable price. **Available at:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3LYSuDz), [Campsaver](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=358fd954-c6b8-44a1-9ca9-aaad445d2dfb&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.campsaver.com%2Fs%2Fnemo-disco-womens) **Best for Ultralight Backpacking: Therm-a-Rest Questar 0** **Why?** It has a comfort rating of 14F yet only weighs 2lbs 9oz and packs down to smaller than 7L. Virtually no sleeping bag in this temp class is that packable! **Available at:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/46wzpRd), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F171647%2Ftherm-a-rest-questar-0-sleeping-bag), [Campsaver](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=358fd954-c6b8-44a1-9ca9-aaad445d2dfb&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.campsaver.com%2Fs%2Ftherm--a--rest-questar-0). **Best Value: Marmot Trestles 15 Women’s** **Why?** This sleeping bag is very affordable yet still well-made and warm down to 15.6F.  It is heavy and bulky though, so better for car camping not backpacking. **Available at:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/46JiESy), [Campsaver](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=358fd954-c6b8-44a1-9ca9-aaad445d2dfb&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.campsaver.com%2Fs%2Fmarmot-trestles-15-womens) ## Comparison Table \[table id=90 /\] ##  Best Winter Sleeping Bags for Women ### 1. Big Agnes Torchlight UL Women’s **Why choose?**  You can completely adjust the fit with side zippers.  It’s also lightweight and compact enough for backpacking. [![big agnes torchlight womens winter sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/big-agnes-torchlight-womens.jpg "big agnes torchlight womens - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/big-agnes-torchlight-womens.jpg) #### Quick Specs: - **Comfort rating:** 24F - **Limit comfort:** 12F - **Fill:** 850 water-repellent DownTek - **Weight:** 2lb 5oz (petite); 2lb 10oz (regular) - **Compressed size:** 6″ x 7″ - **Sizes:** Petite (up to 5’5”) and regular (up to 5’10”) - **Available at:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3tsmCAP), [Campsaver](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=358fd954-c6b8-44a1-9ca9-aaad445d2dfb&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.campsaver.com%2Fs%2Fbig-agnes-torchlight-womens) Big Agnes makes really high-quality backpacking gear.  So, it’s not surprising that the Torchlight has all the features you’d want from a winter sleeping bag like a hood which you can cinch up with one hand from inside, draft tubes, and an interior pocket. If you use a sleeping bag liner, then you’ll like that there are loops inside for securing the liner in place. The standout feature of the Torchlight sleeping bag is that it has two zippers along the sides. When fully unzipped, you can expand the width of the sleeping bag by 10 inches.  Because they are 2-way zippers, you have the option of unzipping just certain areas – meaning you can give yourself more space in certain areas while getting a snugger fit in others. I also love that the Torchlight comes in a petite size.  It fits women up to 5’5” and the regular size is up to 5’10”. There are few versions of the Torchlight. The 20 degree UL version is the most expensive but is lightweight and compact.  If you are car camping, you can get the regular version.  The petite is 2lbs 13oz and the regular is 3lbs. **Get the UL version on [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3PL0KrK), [Campsaver](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=358fd954-c6b8-44a1-9ca9-aaad445d2dfb&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.campsaver.com%2Fs%2Fbig-agnes-torchlight-womens)** **Get the regular version on [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3Q0rOn8), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dbig%2Bagnes%2Btorchlight%2Bwomens)** --- ### 2. Nemo Disco 15 Women’s Sleeping Bag **Why Choose?** Great value and cool features; designed for women who move around in their sleep [![nemo disco womens winter sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/nemo-disco-womens.jpg "nemo disco womens - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/nemo-disco-womens.jpg) #### Quick Specs: - **Comfort rating:** 17F - **Limit comfort:** 5F - **Fill:** 650-fill-power down - **Weight:** 3lbs 1oz - **Compressed size:** 9L - **Sizes:** Regular (up to 5’6”), long (up to 6’) - **Available at:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3LYSuDz), [Campsaver](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=358fd954-c6b8-44a1-9ca9-aaad445d2dfb&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.campsaver.com%2Fs%2Fnemo-disco-womens) There is a reason this is one of the top-selling sleeping bags for women.  For starters, it is very reasonably priced for a down sleeping bag yet still has a quality construction for trapping heat within. The shape of the Nemo Disco is called a “spoon.”  It’s great for side sleeping, especially if you curl up in fetal position.  It also allows you to move around easily, so is great for women (like myself) who flip around a lot at night. Other standout features are the waterproof footbox, which means you don’t want to worry about getting wet if your feet touch the tent walls.  There are also “Therm Gills” on the top of the bag.  These are zippers you can undo to vent the sleeping bag if it gets too warm.  The gills aren’t holes in the bag though, so you can unzip them without letting a draft in. **Check Prices at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3LYSuDz), [Campsaver](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=358fd954-c6b8-44a1-9ca9-aaad445d2dfb&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.campsaver.com%2Fs%2Fnemo-disco-womens)** --- ### 3. Therm-a-Rest Questar 0 Small Size **Why Choose?** High-quality sleeping bag with pad sleeve and quilt connectors [![therm a rest quester sleeping bag for winter](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/therm-a-rest-quester-womens.jpg "therm a rest quester womens - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/therm-a-rest-quester-womens.jpg) #### Quick Specs: - **Comfort rating:** 14F - **Limit comfort:** 0F - **Fill:** 650-fill-power Nikwax Hydrophobic Down - **Weight:** 2lbs 9oz (small) - **Compressed size:** 9L - **Sizes:** Small fits up to 66” - **Available at:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/46wzpRd), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F171647%2Ftherm-a-rest-questar-0-sleeping-bag), [Campsaver](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=358fd954-c6b8-44a1-9ca9-aaad445d2dfb&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.campsaver.com%2Fs%2Ftherm--a--rest-questar-0) The Therm-a-Rest Questar is a unisex sleeping bag but it does have a small size which will fit most women well.  Even though it isn’t a women’s specific fit, the bag is designed to be warm regardless of how you sleep. This same design also means it works for various body shapes. One standout feature of the Questar 0 bag is that it has sleeve pads which will fit almost any pad.  There are also loops for connecting a quilt, meaning you can easily use this bag with a quilt in very cold winter weather. **Check Prices at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/46wzpRd), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F171647%2Ftherm-a-rest-questar-0-sleeping-bag), [Campsaver](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=358fd954-c6b8-44a1-9ca9-aaad445d2dfb&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.campsaver.com%2Fs%2Ftherm--a--rest-questar-0)** --- ### 4. Marmot Teton Trestles Women’s 15 Sleeping Bag **Why Choose?** An affordable cold-weather sleeping bag for car camping [![marmot trestles womens 15 winter sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/marmot-trestles-womens-15.jpg "marmot trestles womens 15 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/marmot-trestles-womens-15.jpg) #### Quick Specs: - **Comfort rating:** - **Limit comfort:** - **Fill:** Durable SpiraFil - **Weight:** - **Compressed size:** 2L - **Sizes:** Regular (up to 5’6”), long (up to 6’) - **Available at:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/46JiESy), [Campsaver](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=358fd954-c6b8-44a1-9ca9-aaad445d2dfb&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.campsaver.com%2Fs%2Fmarmot-trestles-15-womens) This is one of the only synthetic sleeping bags for women which is still warm enough for cold weather.  Because it is synthetic, the Trestles 15 is much more affordable than down bags.  The tradeoff is that the sleeping bag is heavy and bulky.  The stuff sack is 22L.  Even when compressed down to 16L, it is still huge.  So, forget about taking this bag on backpacking trips.  It’s great for car camping though. I personally prefer synthetic sleeping bags for car camping because you don’t have to worry about them getting wet like with down bags.  So, if you haven’t figured out [how to avoid tent condensation](https://momgoescamping.com/tent-condensation/) yet, then this is a good choice. It’s too bad that the other versions of the Trestles sleeping bag don’t come in women-specific fits.  Marmot – step up your game! **Check Prices at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/46JiESy), [Campsaver](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=358fd954-c6b8-44a1-9ca9-aaad445d2dfb&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.campsaver.com%2Fs%2Fmarmot-trestles-15-womens)** --- ### 5. Mountain Hardwear Bishop Pass Gore-Tex 0 Sleeping Bag **Why Choose?** The Gore-Tex shell keeps you dry from tent condensation. It’s also windproof so good for tarp camping. [![mountain hardwear bishops pass 0 winter sleeping bag small size](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/mountain-hardwear-bishops-pass-0.jpg "mountain hardwear bishops pass 0 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/mountain-hardwear-bishops-pass-0.jpg) #### Quick Specs: - **Comfort rating:** 13F - **Limit comfort:** 0F - **Fill:** 650-fill-power goose down - **Weight:** 3lbs 3oz (short) - **Compressed size:** 12L - **Sizes:** Short (fits up to 5’8”), Regular (6’), Long (6’8”) - **Available at:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3QbBE6P), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F194124%2Fmountain-hardwear-bishop-pass-gore-tex-0-sleeping-bag) The Bishop Pass sleeping bag by Mountain Hardwear is one of the most popular cold-weather sleeping bags.  They have a women-specific 15F version.  Unfortunately though, they do not currently have a women-specific fit for this 0F bag.  There is a short size though which fits up to 5’8”. There are a lot of professional-level features on this sleeping bag.  The standout feature though is that it has a Gore-Tex shell.  It really is waterproof, which will alleviate the stress of accidentally touching tent walls which are wet from condensation.  Since it’s also windproof, you can use this sleeping bag when tarp camping. **Check Prices at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3QbBE6P), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F194124%2Fmountain-hardwear-bishop-pass-gore-tex-0-sleeping-bag)** --- ### 6. Mountain Equipment Glacier 1000 Women’s Sleeping Bags **Why Choose?** You are willing to pay for a professional-level sleeping bag [![mountain equipment glacier](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/mountain-equipment-glacier.jpg "mountain equipment glacier - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/mountain-equipment-glacier.jpg) #### Quick Specs: - **Comfort rating:** 12F - **Limit comfort:** -2F - **Fill:** 950 - **Weight:** 3lbs 4oz - **Compressed size:** 12x10x9in - **Sizes:** Regular (up to 6’7”) - **Available at:** [Campsaver](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=358fd954-c6b8-44a1-9ca9-aaad445d2dfb&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.campsaver.com%2Fmountain-equipment-glacier-1000-regular-sleeping-bag-women-s.html) Mountain Equipment makes serious gear for expedition-style adventures.  They have a few versions of the Glacier sleeping bag.  The 1000 is warm down to 12F.  They are so confident that you will stay warm that they even offer a guarantee. It’s hard to see the difference between the Mountain Equipment Glacier and other sleeping bags which have a similar rating.  However, the brand really does use higher-quality materials and better design. There is a zoned fit. The baffles are a combination of trapezoid and slanted box shapes, which allow them to trap heat well and get good loft. The down itself is a very good quality with a minimum cluster content of 90% and minimum fill power of 700.  The shell material is water resistant. All these features do come at a premium cost though! **Check Prices at [Campsaver](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=358fd954-c6b8-44a1-9ca9-aaad445d2dfb&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.campsaver.com%2Fmountain-equipment-glacier-1000-regular-sleeping-bag-women-s.html)** --- Resources: <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/8578740_Comparison_of_thermal_manikins_of_different_body_shapes_and_size>, <https://findado.osteopathic.org/why-do-women-typically-feel-colder-than-men>, <https://www.emerald.com/insight/content/doi/10.1108/IJCST-11-2021-0161/full/html>, <https://phys.org/news/2021-10-reveals-evolutionary-women-colder-men.html> ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** winter --- ### [Is It Okay to Wear Cotton When Hiking?](https://momgoescamping.com/is-it-okay-to-wear-cotton-hiking/) **Published:** July 21, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Don’t want to shell out $50 for a Merino wool shirt and another $100 for special hiking pants? Before you decide to wear your everyday clothes hiking, here is what you need to know about why “cotton kills” and when it is actually okay to wear cotton hiking. ## Why Hikers Say “Cotton Kills” There are two scientific reasons behind the warning that “cotton kills” outdoors. The first is that cotton has a *capillary action*, meaning that water goes into the middle of the fibers like a straw.  Normally, our clothes keep us warm because they create pockets of air that serve as insulation.  Wet cotton doesn’t have these air gaps so won’t keep you warm.  By contrast, wool still maintains its insulating properties even when wet. Cotton is also *hydrophilic* (water-loving).  It can absorb up to 27 times its weight in liquid water, meaning it quickly gets drenched from sweat on hikes. Once wet, cotton dries very slowly.  As it dries, your body loses heat through evaporation. You also lose heat conduction: your body heat moves outwards towards the wet clothes. By contrast, quick-dry materials barely hold any water, so won’t cause nearly as much body heat loss. It might not seem dangerous to wear cotton clothing on a mild-weather hike.  However, it’s easy to underestimate how dangerous wet cotton clothing can be.  Generally, the body only loses about 2% of its body heat to conduction but, when in contact with wet cotton clothing, it loses 10% to 15% of its heat. Calculate in heat loss from evaporation and you see why hypothermia can occur even at temperatures of 60F. Hypothermia is the leading cause of death among outdoor recreationists.  So, while cotton clothing itself does not kill, it can easily lead to hypothermia — hence why the phrase “cotton kills” is correct.  (Sources:[1](https://www.mottchildren.org/health-library/tw9037), [2](https://sciencing.com/cotton-absorbent-6662538.html), [3](https://sciencing.com/what-is-a-carbohydrate-found-in-a-cell-wall-of-plant-cells-12000355.html), [4](https://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/09/health/09brody.html), [5](https://survivaldispatch.com/freezing-to-death-in-60-degree-weather/), [6](https://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/phys_agents/cold_general.html), [7](https://courses.lumenlearning.com/suny-ap2/chapter/energy-and-heat-balance/), [8](https://www.centracare.com/blog/2016/january/top-5-ways-body-heat-is-lost/)) ![wet hikers](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/4146859212_8c0176b672_c.jpg "wet hikers - Mom Goes Camping")*In these conditions wearing cotton clothes could really kill* ## Is It Okay to Wear Cotton When Hiking? While it’s not the ideal material, it is perfectly fine to wear cotton on short hikes in warm weather. A lot of beginner hikers just wear their everyday cotton clothes hiking and have no issues at all. Even if your clothes do end up wet, it isn’t likely to cause dangerous heat loss. Where cotton starts to be problematic is on longer hikes in extreme climates, such as multi-day backpacking trips in the mountains.  Your clothes are almost guaranteed to get wet from sweat.  The weather in the mountains can also rapidly change without warning, so you could end up drenched from a rainstorm too.  Good rain gear will keep you dry but, because rain jackets aren’t very breathable, you end up sweating more and get wet from the inside out. Hiking in cotton clothes in winter is definitely not recommended. It defeats the point of having a good winter jacket if you are just going to wear cotton base layers, which will end up wet against your skin. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/park-ranger.jpg "park ranger - Mom Goes Camping")*People have been hiking in cotton for decades Even park ranger uniforms are still part cotton* ## When It Is Okay to Wear Cotton Hiking While it may not be *comfortable*, it is perfectly *safe* to wear cotton hiking at temperatures of 70F and above. In hot and dry climates like the desert, you might even prefer to hike in cotton clothes: they dry so quickly the evaporation helps keep you cool. It’s also okay to wear cotton in cooler weather or longer hikes.  Remember, cotton was the go-to material for hikers before all of these high-tech fabrics were invented. However, **if you are going to do a serious hike in cotton, make sure you always have dry clothes to change into**. Bringing enough spare clothes isn’t too problematic in summer.  Rain showers usually don’t last very long so, even if you end up drenched from rain, your cotton clothes will still dry fairly quickly when hung out (though not nearly as quickly as “quick dry” materials). Ensuring you have dry spare clothes is trickier in spring and fall though.  It can drizzle for days without end, meaning your cotton clothes have no chance of drying out.  You’ll basically need at least once change of clothes for each day. That means bringing LOTS more stuff in your pack.  Because wet cotton is heavy, lugging around your wet clothes also weighs down your pack.  On a multi-day hike, your clothes might even be moldy by the time you return. For these reasons, I’d only wear cotton when hiking in summer.  You can get away with wearing cotton in spring or fall, but it can really ruin your trip.   In winter, the conditions are too extreme to risk wearing cotton at all. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/my-kid-wearing-cotton-hiking.jpg "my kid wearing cotton hiking - Mom Goes Camping")*My kid wearing cotton clothes on a two week hike Luckily her clothes are tiny so it doesnt take up much space to pack extras in case they get wet* ### Note: Bad things can happen when hiking! Your cotton clothes might be okay when hiking on a hot day.  But what would happen if you had to spend an unplanned night outdoors due to an injury or getting lost?  Your cotton clothes could literally be the death of you. Hope for the best but plan for the worst.  And make sure you always have [these crucial safety items with you when hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-packing-list/). ## Cotton Hiking Clothes Are Also Bad for Your Skin Even in weather conditions where it is safe to wear cotton hiking, it still isn’t a good choice.  The moisture from wet cotton clothing will cause your skin to soften, making it more sensitive and susceptible to damage.   This is why wearing cotton socks can result in blisters.  A lot of hikers who wear cotton underwear and bras get skin chaffing. If you can afford it or are serious about hiking, do yourself a favor and get quick-dry hiking clothes.  They are much more comfortable. ## Which Fabrics Should You Wear Hiking? Wool is generally considered the best material for hiking because it is breathable, so prevents sweating.  It won’t absorb nearly as much water as cotton: only 30% of its weight vs. 2700% with cotton.  Wool also doesn’t have the capillary action like cotton: it will still have air gaps in its fibers when wet, which is why hikers say that wool insulates even when wet. Nylon and polyester are also good materials for hiking.  They don’t absorb water well and have a “wicking” action, which means they move moisture outwards. Because the moisture isn’t against your skin, your body doesn’t lose as much heat from conduction. ([9](https://www.sciencelearn.org.nz/resources/875-wool-fibre-properties)) It’s worth noting though that not all synthetics are created equally.  For example, honeycomb polyester (waffle fabric) does a much better job of wicking than normal polyester fibers. ([10](https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1757-899X/87/1/012095/pdf)) ## Where to Find Cheap Non-Cotton Hiking Clothes It’s actually pretty easy to find cheap hiking clothes if you know where to look. All my hiking shirts, for example, cost about $3 each or less.   Here are some places to look. - **Secondhand stores:** This is where most of my hiking clothes came from. - **[REI Outlet](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Frei-garage):** You can sometimes find really good deals on last season’s clothing. - **Exercise clothes:** Clothes marketed for “exercise” is usually a lot cheaper than clothes for “hiking,” and works just as well most of the time. - **[GearTrade Reddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/GearTrade/):** This subreddit has lots of listings for outdoor gear. **Do you wear cotton when hiking? Let us know in the comments section below.** Image credit:”[miserable hikers](https://www.flickr.com/photos/catieandlinds/4146859212/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Catie & Linds](https://www.flickr.com/people/catieandlinds/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** clothes --- ### [Tent Weight: What is Considered Lightweight?](https://momgoescamping.com/what-is-considered-lightweight-tent/) **Published:** March 17, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Trying to [cut weight from your pack](https://momgoescamping.com/ultralight-backpacking-tips/) so you can enjoy longer backpacking trips?  Aside from food and water, your shelter is usually the heaviest thing in your pack.  You can save a lot of weight by upgrading to a lightweight tent. But what qualifies as lightweight? ## How much does a lightweight tent weigh? When backpacking solo, a tent under 4lbs is considered lightweight and a tent under 2lbs is considered ultralight.  When backpacking with a partner and sharing a tent, calculate *weight per person:*  A tent which weighs less than 2 lbs per person is considered lightweight and a tent less than 1 lb per person is considered ultralight. ![naturehike cloudup tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/ultralight-tent-naturehike-cloudup-2-1.jpg "ultralight-tent-naturehike-cloudup-2 - Mom Goes Camping") **For example, I use the Naturehike Cloud Up 2 tent (above) when backpacking with my daughter.** - **1-person version = 3.5 lbs**. This barely meets the definition for lightweight. - **2-person version** **= 3.75 lbs.** When you divide the weight between two people, it truly becomes a lightweight tent at 1.875 lbs per person. - **3-person version = 4.9 lbs**. Or 1.6 lbs per person, which is lightweight. \*Read my [review of the Naturehike Cloud Up](https://momgoescamping.com/naturehike-cloudup-2-review/) here or see these top picks for [cheap UL backpacking tents](https://momgoescamping.com/cheap-ultralight-tents/). **Remember:** When using the “weight per person” method, calculate how many people will be *using* the tent and NOT how many people the tent says it can hold. This is because 2-person tents usually can’t hold two people. As a general rule, a two-person tent will fit only fit one person comfortably.  A three-person tent will fit two people… In my case, I’m able to use a 2-person tent when backpacking with my daughter because we are both so small (I’m barely 5’ tall and she’s even tinier).  Two tall men would not be able to fit in our same tent. ### Tent Weight vs. Size To make a tent lightweight, manufacturers often cut back on size drastically.  As a result, lots of lightweight tents are very cramped. So, if you are a tall person or want a roomier tent, you might want to define lightweight as *square feet per ounce.* **Below are some examples of tent weight per square foot.**  *\[table id=26 /\]* If you just look at the overall weight of the tents, it might seem like the REI tent is the heaviest.  However, the REI tent has significantly more floor space. When you calculate the tent weight per floor space,  you get a better idea of which tent is really the lightest. Not surprisingly, the lightest tent is also the priciest. ## Tent Setup vs. Weight Savings How is the REI Flash tent so lightweight yet still affordable?  It’s because the tent doesn’t have any poles.  Instead, you pitch the tent with your trekking poles.  This is the ultimate definition of “multipurpose gear” and allows you to save weight while still getting a roomy tent. There are trade offs though.  As I talk about in this post about the [best trekking pole tents](https://momgoescamping.com/best-trekking-pole-tents/), it can be a pain in the ass to pitch a tent with trekking poles.  Is it really worth saving a bit of weight if it is going to cause you hassle on the trail? Likewise, are any of the other trade offs which come with lightweight tents — like flimsy material and fewer features — really worth it to save a few ounces?  Going lightweight isn’t a competition about who can get the lowest base weight.  It’s about making the experience more enjoyable! ## The Bottom Line? There are a few ways of calculating what’s “lightweight” and “ultralight” with tents.  Make sure you look at them all so you get a nuanced view of how heavy or light the tent really is. --- ###### Image credit: “[MSR Elixir 2 – Step 4](https://www.flickr.com/photos/scooter_de/29995291006/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [Steffen Roller](https://www.flickr.com/people/scooter_de/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** ultralight --- ### [Best Bike Trailers for Kids with Suspension (for Off-Road and Trail Use)](https://momgoescamping.com/bike-trailers-kids-suspension-off-road/) **Published:** December 15, 2024 **Author:** Diane **Content:** If you want to bike with your kids on paved roads, you have plenty of options, and most cheap trailers will be good enough. However, if you want to go on gravel roads or dirt trails, you’ll need a more serious bike trailer that has a suspension system. Otherwise, the ride can get very bumpy and uncomfortable for your child. The suspension system can also smooth out the bumps for *you*, so cycling with a heavy load isn’t as much of a strain. I’ve done my research, tested several options, and consulted with other outdoorsy parents. Here are the options for off-road bike trailers for kids. All of them have suspension systems and also convert into strollers. **Also read: [Best Off-Road Hiking Strollers](https://momgoescamping.com/all-terrain-strollers-hiking/)** ## Quick Picks - **Best Overall (Single or Double): [Burley D’Lite X](https://amzn.to/4b0c6R4)** – It’s lightweight, has adjustable suspension, and the seats are removable so you can use it as a cargo trailer when your kids outgrow it. - **Best for Trails: [Thule Chariot Cross ](https://amzn.to/4aZ3R7S)** – The narrow design makes it easier to maneuver on single-track paths and trails, and the adjustable suspension system is fantastic. - **Lightweight Pick: [Burley Encore X](https://amzn.to/3yW6zhj)** – It is incredibly lightweight and converts to a cargo trailer. Too bad the suspension isn’t adjustable and the seats don’t recline. - **Budget Pick: [Clevr Plus](https://amzn.to/3VyNmLs)** – It has an okay suspension system and is incredibly cheap, but you are probably better off looking for a higher-quality trailer secondhand. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/off-roading-with-bike-trailers-for-kids.jpg "off roading with bike trailers for kids - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/off-roading-with-bike-trailers-for-kids.jpg)Suspension systems make the ride less bumpy for your little ones ## Comparison The bike trailers are listed in order of cost, with the cheaper models first.  Note that jogging and ski conversion kits are sold separately. ### Single Bike Trailers with Suspension \[table id=102 /\] ### Double Bike Trailers with Suspension \[table id=103 /\] ## Reviews ### 1. [Thule Chariot](https://amzn.to/4fn8NFX) **Choose because:** Best suspension system and most compact for trail use Thule currently has three versions of its Chariot bike trailer: Lite, Cross and Sport. The key differences are: - **[Lite X](https://amzn.to/4b0c6R4):** Doesn’t have adjustable suspension, and the seat doesn’t recline or have padding. - **[Cross X](https://amzn.to/4aZ3R7S):** Has adjustable suspension and padded reclined seats. - **[Sport X](https://amzn.to/3Rmpet8):** Has everything the Cross has plus a decelerating hand brake. All three models have a great suspension system which makes them suitable for using on gravel or dirt trails. The single versions are very narrow at just 25.6”, so easier to maneuver without rolling over flora. The conversion system is genius and allows you to quickly switch between the different modes.  The C-shaped tow arm puts the trailer directly behind the bike instead of off to the side like with many L-shaped tow arms. This is important for maneuvering on narrow trails! My favorite feature, though, is that there are two stroller wheels built into the trailer. To convert into a stroller, you just pull the wheels down. With other brands, the extra wheel have to be stored separately and attached, which means you run the risk of losing or forgetting them.  For trail use, a three-wheel stroller would be more stable. However, Thule’s four-wheel design means the third wheel doesn’t stick out, so the stroller isn’t as long and thus is easier to maneuver in tight spaces. As you’d expect from Thule, there are also other nice features like air vents, a great rain cover, a sturdy frame that acts as a roll cage, and the stroller handle folds into a roll bar while in bike trailer mode. #### Pros: - **VersaWing system:** Allows quick conversion between biking, stroller, jogging and skiing modes. - **Fantastic suspension systems:** You can feel the difference with the suspension system. It is a smooth ride! - **C-shaped tow arm:** This positions the trailer directly behind your cycle instead of off to the side like with many L-shaped trailer tow arms. - **Stroller wheels built into trailer:** You don’t have to worry about losing or forgetting the wheels. - **Comfortable for child:** The Cross and Sport have reclining padded seats and air vents for a comfy ride. The seats on double versions recline independently. - **Narrow single trailers:** The door pass-through is only 25.6” on the singles, which can make a huge difference when maneuvering on narrow trails. The double versions aren’t as narrow though. #### Cons: - **Very expensive:** These are not cheap bike trailers for kids! The add-ons, like the ski conversion kit, are also very pricy. - **No cargo mode:** You can’t remove the seats or make them go flat to get more cargo space. - **Storage messes with stride:** If you want to run with the Chariot in jogging mode, the large storage area can mess with a long stride if it is completely full. **Get It at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/4gxQ23y) or [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F212790%2Fthule-courier-bike-trailer)** --- ### 2. Burley Bike Trailers with Suspension (Encore X, D’Lite X, and Cub X) **Choose because:** Converts to cargo trailer so you’ll get more use out of it, and most comfortable for your child Burley makes several models of bike trailers for kids, but the Encore, D’Lite X and Cub X are currently the only models with suspensions systems. The difference between these three models is: - **[Encore X](https://amzn.to/3yW6zhj):** Doesn’t have adjustable suspension; seats don’t recline; only available as a double - **[D’Lite X](https://amzn.to/3KCjl71):** Adjustable suspension; seats recline, better wheels, waterproof zippers, available as single or double - **[Cub X](https://amzn.to/3VyTxiC):** Basically the same as the D’Lite but also has a hard bottom for extra ruggedness; only available as a double They all have the Flex connection system, which allows you to quickly connect your bike to the trailer. A cool feature of the Flex system is that it allows your bike to lay flat while the trailer remains upright. This is useful plus increases safety, since the trailer is less likely to flip if you fall. Another amazing feature of the Burley suspension bike trailers for kids is that they have removable seats and recline flat. This means you can also use them as a cargo trailer for your bike. Since your kids will eventually grow out of the trailer, this will give you much more use out of it. #### Pros: - **Great suspension system:** The suspension is nearly as good as Thule’s. - **Converts to cargo trailer**: Remove seats and recline flat to use as a cargo trailer. - **Flex system:** Bike can lay flat while connected to trailer. - **Child comfort features:** There are padded reclining seats, lots of ventilation, and recessed helmet area #### Cons: - **Expensive:** The trailer and conversion kits are pricy - **Wheel stores separately**: You’ll need to keep the stroller wheel in the trailer’s storage compartment and attach it each time you want to use it. **Get them at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3Detjex) or [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F221969%2Fburley-dlite-x-bike-trailer)** --- ### Thule vs. Burley Burley suspension bike trailers for kids are a better value than a Thule Chariot. The Burley trailers as well as the add-ons are cheaper. You’ll also get more use out of these Burley trailers because they can be used as cargo trailers when your kids outgrow them. Thule Chariot bike trailers aren’t as good of a value as Burley but they are better designed. The tow arm is C-shaped, so the trailer sits directly behind your bike. By comparison, the Burley tow arm is L-shaped, so it makes the trailer sit slightly to the left.  You need to be aware of this when on narrow trails or paths.  The Thule Chariot is also better than Burley if you don’t want to worry about packing the stroller wheels, and the Single versions are much narrower than Burley models. --- ### 3. [Hamax Outback ](https://amzn.to/3OZ65eU) **Choose because:** It is insanely roomy Hamax is another well-known brand of bike trailers for kids. Their Outback model has a great adjustable suspension system for going on dirt trails. Another fantastic feature is the quick conversion system. It even displays a green/red field so you know whether you mounted it correctly or not. Like with the Burley models, the Hamax Outback seats can recline completely back so it converts into a cargo trailer. When it comes to comfort for your child, Hamax is also one of the best options. There is a lot of padding on the seats and helmets fit in the recessed head area. Mesh vents keep your child cool even with the rain cover on.  There is plenty of leg room for bigger kids. The major downside of the Hamax Outback is that it is HUGE and HEAVY.  The door pass-through on the single is 28.3” and nearly 39” on the double.  The single weighs more than the Thule and Burley doubles. The Hamax Outback is also huge when packed down, so you’ll need a lot of vehicle space to transport it.  Because of the size, I do *not* recommend the Hamax Outback unless you really need the roomier interior, and are in insanely good shape for hauling the extra weight. #### Pros: - **Great suspension system:** Handles bumpy roads almost as well as Thule and Burley - **Converts to cargo trailer**: Remove seats and recline flat to use as a cargo trailer. - **Secure connection system:** Red/green indicator lets you know you connected it securely. - **Child comfort features:** Lots of padding, vents, and leg room for your child. #### Cons: - **Massive and heavy:** Weighs much more than other kid trailers and is very wide. - **Expensive:** The trailer and conversion kits are pricy - **No top roll bar:** Stroller handlebar doesn’t fold over to become a roll bar [**Check Price At Amazon**](https://amzn.to/3OZ65eU) --- ### 4. [Clevr Plus](https://amzn.to/3VyNmLs) (Not Recommended) **Choose because:** Very cheap bike trailer for kids that still has a suspension system [![Clevr Plus cheap bike trailer for kids with suspension system for off road use](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/clevr.jpg "clevr - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/clevr.jpg) The Clevr Plus bike trailer costs 3x less than the Burley Encore, and 6x less than the Thule Chariot Sport.  The jogging wheel is included with the Clevr Plus. With other brands, you have to buy the jogging setup as an add-on, so this makes it an even better deal.   It’s one of the only bike trailers for kids with a suspension system at this price point. As expected from a cheap bike trailer, the materials aren’t the best quality and won’t withstand abuse. The Clevr brand has surprisingly good customer support, though, and a decent warranty on parts.  Considering the price, the suspension is okay quality.  The brake on the handlebars is *not* a decelerating brake: it’s a hand-activated parking brake. The main issue with the Clevr Plus is the poor design. It converts into a jogger, but doesn’t have an option for attaching a normal stroller wheel to the hitch arm. If you want to convert between trailer to stroller modes while out, you’ll have to pack the entire arm and front bars.  This adds weight and takes up space! To fold the Clevr Plus trailer, you have to remove the handlebars. It’s a multi-step process and not nearly as smooth as with the Thule or Burley trailers. The Clevr Plus bike trailer is very heavy at 37lbs. It’s also wide at 34.5”, so it won’t fit through most doorways. It is an outdoor-only bike trailer and stroller! Another major issue is that the Clevr Plus has plastic instead of mesh sides. The front cover doesn’t allow much air flow either, so it gets HOT inside the trailer. In hot temps, you will need to remove the cover or give your child a fan to use inside. I would recommend getting a secondhand Thule Chariot or Burley bike trailer instead of the Clevr Plus. However, I included the Clevr Plus here to show what you can get at each price point. #### Pros: - **Very affordable** - **Okay suspension system** - **Hand-activated parking brake** #### Cons: - **Only parking brake** - **Very wide** - **Terrible ventilation** - **Multi-step conversion and folding** - **Poor-quality materials** - **Doesn’t hold resell value** [**Check Price at Amazon**](https://amzn.to/3VyNmLs) --- ## Buying Secondhand Bike Trailers A great way to save money is to buy a secondhand bike trailer for your child. It can be a bit more difficult to find bike trailers with suspension systems, though, so start searching early. Check Craigslist and local Facebook marketplaces. If you get lucky, you can find a Burley D’Lite or Thule Chariot Cross for around $200-$300. If you don’t know how to do it yourself, **budget another $100-$150 for a tune-up and new tubes.**   The good news is that these brands hold their resell value, so you can even sell the secondhand trailer after your child outgrows it. **Tips:** - Buy local so you can check out the trailer. It also saves you shipping costs. - Check for rust, dents, and fabric tears. - Look at the tire tread wear. New tires add to the cost! - Push down on the trailer and rock it back and forth. - If possible, buy from someone with one kid. The trailer will have taken less abuse than if it survived two kids. ## Child Seat vs. Bike Trailer for Off-Road and Trail Use Bike trailers are very comfortable for your child and offer full weather protection. Kids can even play with toys while you cycle, or take a nap—something that’s not possible in a child bike seat. Bike trailers also have the benefit of being more stable and safe. It’s unlikely the trailer will flip over, and most act as roll cages to protect your child in the unlikely event that they do flip. You can put multiple kids in a bike trailer as well as lots of gear. The downside is that bike trailers are heavy and wide, which makes it hard to maneuver them on narrow trails. They are also very pricy and require maintenance. By comparison, bike seats don’t add much weight or any width to your bike. This makes them easier to maneuver on trails. They are also very cheap compared to bike trailers. However, the benefits end there. A bike seat is not nearly as comfortable for children, especially little kids who get tired on rides or want to hold toys.  You will have a hard time standing to pedal. A child seat makes your bike top-heavy and less stable. If there is an accident, your child will fall from a high distance and has nothing but the helmet to protect them. **Child Seat:** - **Lighter and narrower** - **Cheaper** - **Not as safe for child** - **Higher center of gravity, less stable** - **Standing to pedal is difficult** **Trailer:** - **Stable and safer** - **Can haul multiple kids plus gear** - **More comfortable, kids can nap or play inside** - **Weather and dust protection** - **Heavier, wider and harder to maneuver** - **Expensive and require maintenance** **Note:** Most bike seats aren’t great for bouncy rides and will be particularly uncomfortable for your child. If you want to do mountain biking with a child, you’ll need a front-mounted MTB seat for your kid like the [Mac Seat](https://amzn.to/3VMhrrb). It’s also pricy, though. :/ ![front mounted kids bike seat for off road and mountain biking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/mac-seat.jpg "mac seat - Mom Goes Camping")The Mac Seat lets you mountain bike with your kid Its also nice for being able to talk to your kid while riding ## Features of Bike Trailers for Kids for Trail/Gravel Use ### Adjustable Suspension If you get an opportunity, try to push a bike stroller without suspension over gravel, and then push one with suspension. The difference can be drastic and you’ll see why you need suspension for trail use. The really good brands of bike trailers for kids have adjustable suspension systems. The Thule Chariot Cross and Chariot Sport, for example, have little knobs to adjust the suspension. You tighten it when on smooth terrain and loosen it on gravel or dirt trails. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/thule-chariot-bike-trailer-with-suspension-going-off-roading-with-kids.jpg "thule chariot bike trailer with suspension going off roading with kids - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/thule-chariot-bike-trailer-with-suspension-going-off-roading-with-kids.jpg)Adjustable suspension means you can cycle on paths like this ### Single vs. Double Bike Trailer Most double bike trailers are too wide for trails, fire roads, or single-tracks. The trailer’s wheels will end up over the edge of the path, destroying flora. Aside from the nature concerns, riding off the trail also makes the ride bumpier and harder. For this reason, it is best to get a single bike trailer if you plan to use it on trails or narrow paths. If you have two kids, consider putting the older child on a front-mounted seat and the younger one in the trailer. If you absolutely have to get a double trailer, then pay careful attention to its width. A few inches of width could make a huge difference! [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/thule-chariot-in-jogging-mode.jpg "thule chariot in jogging mode - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/thule-chariot-in-jogging-mode.jpg)A narrow trailerjogger  like the Thule Chariot will make it easier to go on nature paths ### Conversion Kits All of the bike trailers with suspension listed here also can be converted into strollers. They allow you to cycle to your destination and then push the child in a stroller. I would not buy a bike trailer that can’t be turned into a stroller. They simply are too limited in function. Thule are the easiest to convert into strollers because the wheels are integrated into the trailer. Be warned: If you want to convert the bike trailer into a *jogging* stroller, you will need to buy a conversion kit. Even though it’s basically just a 16” wheel, the kit can be expensive.  Likewise, some bike trailers can also convert into skis, but you need to pay for the expensive add-on. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/older-burley-bike-trailers.jpg "older burley bike trailers - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/older-burley-bike-trailers.jpg)IMO bike trailers that dont convert into strollers like this older Burley arent practical Jogging and ski conversion kits mean you get even more use out of the trailer ### Roll Bar Bike trailers are very stable, so it is highly unlikely that it will flip over. However, it can happen—especially when turning corners on tight trails or gravel. To make the ride safer for your kid, some bike trailers have a roll bar. If the trailer flips, your child will be suspended upside down by the harness and the roll bar will protect their head from impact.  With convertible bike trailers, the stroller handle often folds back in bike mode to serve as the roll bar. It’s a smart, functional design. ### Braking System All good bike trailers for kids will have a parking brake to lock the wheels in place. However, some models also have a hand brake. This is only for use in stroller mode; you pull the brake lever to slow down the stroller. If you only go on flat terrain, you don’t really need the hand brake. However, hands brakes are great for controlling the stroller speed when going downhill, especially while jogging. A lot of these strollers have hand brake kits you can add to the stroller, but they are expensive add-ons! ### Flex Connector A flex connector is a cool feature that allows you to put your bike down while the trailer stays upright.  Not only is this very practical, but it is also safer for your child: if you fall, the bike will go down without flipping the trailer. ### Recessed Helmet Area When a child sits back in the trailer, the seat can push the helmet forward into an unsafe position. It also makes the helmet less comfortable, so the kid is less likely to wear a helmet.  Good bike trailers solve this by making a recessed area for the helmet in the seat. ### Packed Size Unless you plan on sticking around home, you will need to pack the bike trailer into your vehicle and drive it to the trail. Bike trailers for kids can be huge when packed, and you can’t necessarily put them on a roof rack if that’s where your bikes are.  Folded size matters if you need to get it in your trunk! You will also want look for features like: - Quick-release wheels - Wheels can be stored inside folded trailer - Easy-mount hitch system [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/folded-bike-trailer-for-kids-size.jpg "folded bike trailer for kids size - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/folded-bike-trailer-for-kids-size.jpg)Bike trailers are HUGE when folded ### Features for Child - **Dust and weather protection:** All of the bike trailers for kids with suspension systems also have features like rain covers and sun protection. - **Reclining seats:** Some models surprisingly don’t have this. Others have 3 or 5 positions of recline. - **Vents:** The vents allow for air flow, even when the rain cover is on. - **Snack pockets:** Yes, you will want these to keep your child happy! --- ###### Image credits: “[LRM\_20161117\_101009](https://www.flickr.com/photos/tompagenet/35350503876/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [tompagenet](https://www.flickr.com/people/tompagenet/), “[Van Nicholas](https://www.flickr.com/photos/eastendimages/5869824137/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [eastendimages](https://www.flickr.com/people/eastendimages/), “[Chariot 1](https://www.flickr.com/photos/vikapproved/2515150546/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [vikapproved](https://www.flickr.com/people/vikapproved/), “[Queen Charlotte Track with a trailer](https://www.flickr.com/photos/79141756@N00/16305934591/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [joeyjo](https://www.flickr.com/people/79141756@N00/), “[Chariot Cougar 2 bike trailer](https://www.flickr.com/photos/swindejr/16803042189/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [swindejr](https://www.flickr.com/people/swindejr/), ###### Resources: **<https://scholar.colorado.edu/downloads/q524jp142>, <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9997946/>, <https://www.croozer.com/en/blog-biketrailer-airpad-suspension>,** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids --- ### [Backpacking Stoves Guide: Your Six Best Options](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-stoves-guide/) **Published:** October 8, 2025 **Author:** Diane **Content:** After 15+ years of [backpacking with my daughters](https://momgoescamping.com/guide-backpacking-kids/) across multiple continents—from the Albanian Alps to the trails of Eastern Europe—I’ve learned that choosing the right backpacking stove can make or break your outdoor cooking experience. Unless you’re content munching on Snickers and GORP for days, you’ll need a reliable way to heat your meals on the trail. There are six main types of backpacking stoves, and through plenty of trial and error (including one memorable incident with a leaking cheap stove in Kosovo), I’ve used them all. Here’s everything you need to know to choose the best option for your backpacking style. ## Jump to: - [Gas canister stoves](#canister) - [Liquid fuel stoves](#liquidfuel) - [Alcohol stoves](#alcohol) - [Collapsible wood stoves](#woodstoves) - [Solid fuel (Esbit) stoves](#solidfuel) - [Alternative fuel stoves](#alternativefuel) - [Carbon monoxide safety](#copoisoning) ## Quick Recommendations Based on My Experience: **For most backpacking trips:** A quality gas canister stove like the [MSR Pocket Rocket](https://amzn.to/2p2ejup) offers the best balance of weight, efficiency, and ease of use. I’ve relied on canister stoves for the majority of my family trips. **For international travel or remote areas:** A liquid-fuel stove like the [MSR Whisperlite](https://amzn.to/32xhj0o) gives you maximum versatility. When backpacking through less-developed countries, being able to use gasoline from any service station is invaluable. **For group cooking:** Liquid-fuel stoves provide a more stable platform. I learned this the hard way watching pots wobble precariously on tiny canister stoves while cooking for my family plus friends. **For ultralight enthusiasts:** A collapsible wood stove eliminates fuel weight entirely. Just be prepared for longer cooking times and check for fire restrictions in your area. **For DIY lovers or tight budgets:** An alcohol stove is worth considering, though I’d recommend it mainly as a backup option based on my testing. ## Option 1: Gas Canister Stoves **Best for:** Most backpackers, especially beginners and those prioritizing speed and convenience ### Pros: - Lightweight and compact—my Primus stove fits in my cook pot - Incredibly easy to use, even in the dark - Boils water in under 3 minutes with quality fuel - No priming or maintenance required - Excellent simmer control on better models ### Cons: - Quality stoves and fuel cost more upfront - Fuel canisters can be hard to find while traveling internationally - Performance drops in freezing temperatures - Cannot safely use full wraparound windscreens (risk of canister explosion) - Small burner surface makes cooking for large groups challenging ### Top Gas Canister Backpacking Stoves: - [MSR Pocket Rocket 2](https://amzn.to/2p2ejup) - [Jetboil Flash Cooking Stove and System](https://amzn.to/2VWIkYO) - [Optimus Vega](https://amzn.to/2JoibNB) (for cold-weather backpacking) ### What Are Gas Canister Backpacking Stoves? These stoves attach to small, pressurized gas canisters containing compressed fuel. The compact, efficient design makes them popular among backpackers who value convenience and quick cooking times. Most canister stoves are remarkably small—perfect for solo backpacking and preparing simple meals. However, I’ve learned through experience that cooking a large pot of chili for four people on a tiny canister burner requires constant vigilance to prevent toppling. If you regularly cook for groups, consider a liquid-fuel stove with a wider, more stable base. ### Understanding Attachment Types Backpacking stoves connect to gas canisters in three ways: #### Screw-On (Recommended): This is the standard for quality backpacking stoves. The canister features threads that securely attach to the stove. After cooking, you can detach the canister and pack everything away compactly. These don’t leak, making them safe for travel. When I upgraded from my cheap pierceable stove to a screw-on Primus model, the difference in convenience and reliability was night and day. #### Click-On (Limited Use): Also known as Campingaz canisters, these feature a valve system for quick attachment. They share the benefits of screw-on systems—removable and leak-free. However, these are primarily used in France and parts of Europe. If you’re backpacking elsewhere, finding compatible fuel will be challenging. I don’t recommend investing in this system unless you exclusively travel in regions where Campingaz is readily available. #### Pierceable (Budget Option with Drawbacks): Common in Eastern Europe where I currently live, these cheap stoves hold the gas canister internally. Once pierced, the canister cannot be removed, creating bulk and transportation headaches. They also tend to leak. ![My old, super cheap gas cartridge stove](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/what-to-eat-when-backpacking.jpg) I only recommend pierceable stoves if you’re traveling in less-developed countries where these cheap canisters are ubiquitous. When backpacking through the Balkans, I could find pierceable canisters in the smallest mountain villages, while screw-on canisters were nowhere to be found. ### Understanding Fuel Types I used to think all gas was the same and would buy the cheapest fuel available. What a mistake! After one expensive canister barely lasted two days, I upgraded to Primus and MSR fuel. One small, quality canister lasted my daughter and me over a week—a complete game-changer. #### Butane: Found in 8oz aerosol cans, butane is the least expensive and least efficient option. Its low vapor pressure means it loses pressure quickly and performs poorly in cold weather. Expect boil times exceeding 6 minutes per liter—frustratingly slow if you need to purify water urgently. The one advantage? Butane stoves often have the canister offset to the side, creating a larger, more stable cooking surface suitable for group cooking. #### Isobutane: With excellent vapor pressure, isobutane delivers fuel efficiently. Quality stoves can boil a liter of water in under 3 minutes. Performance remains strong in cool weather, though efficiency drops in sub-zero temperatures. The main drawback is the typical setup: a small stovetop screws directly onto the canister. This compact configuration isn’t large enough to support big pots securely. I’ve cooked for groups this way, but spent the entire time monitoring pots to prevent them from tipping over from vigorous boiling. #### Fuel Mix with Propane (My Current Choice): Canisters combining isobutane with propane offer the benefits of both fuels. After switching to these mixed-fuel canisters, I haven’t looked back. Yes, they cost more initially, but the extended burn time and consistent performance make them worth every penny. These canisters share the same compact shape as pure isobutane, so they still work best for individual or small-group meals rather than large-scale cooking. ### Calculating Fuel Needs To determine how much fuel to pack, you’ll need to know: - Your stove’s boil time per liter of water - The run time per fuel canister - Total water volume needed for your trip Here’s my real-world example: My Primus stove boils a liter in approximately 2.5 minutes. An 8oz (230g) canister runs for about 85 minutes, theoretically boiling 34 liters (143 cups) of water. **My typical daily water needs for solo backpacking:** - 1 cup for oatmeal - 2 cups for hot drinks (coffee and tea) - 1 cup for lunch (rehydrating hummus or similar) - 3 cups for dinner Total: 7 cups per day. Theoretically, one canister lasts 20 days. **Reality check:** You won’t achieve these theoretical numbers. Heat loss from wind, cold weather, higher altitudes, and simmering (not just boiling) dramatically reduce efficiency. Melting snow requires even more fuel than boiling water. **My rule of thumb:** Calculate your theoretical boil capacity, then divide by 4 for worst-case scenarios. This conservative estimate has prevented me from running out of fuel on extended trips. ### Wind Screens for Canister Stoves ![Homemade windscreen for canister stove](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/final-windscreen.jpg) Wind can blow your flame away from the pot, wasting 3 to 5 times more fuel. However, traditional wraparound windscreens can cause canister overheating and potential explosion. The solution? Use a windscreen that protects the burner without encircling the canister. I’ve written detailed [instructions for making your own safe windscreen](https://momgoescamping.com/diy-windscreen-canister-stove/), which has saved me significant fuel costs on windy trips. ### Emergency Backup Plan If you run out of fuel, bring meals that don’t require cooking. Instant mashed potatoes work with cold water (though they’re not appetizing). My homemade [dehydrator meals](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-meal-ideas/) will eventually rehydrate in cold water if you’re patient. For more options, check out my guide to [cold-soaking backpacking meals](https://momgoescamping.com/cold-soak-backpacking-meals/). This backup strategy has saved me more than once. And don’t forget about water! You’ll need clean water for cooking. I personally use a [Sawyer Mini water filter](https://momgoescamping.com/sawyer-mini-water-filter-review/), which has been a reliable companion on all my trips. Check out my [complete guide to backpacking water filters](https://momgoescamping.com/best-backpacking-water-filters-purifiers/) if you need help choosing one. Not sure what to eat while backpacking? Check out my ebook with over 50 ultralight, nutrient-dense trail meals plus comprehensive meal planning advice. [Learn more here](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/). You can also browse my [lightweight backpacking meal ideas](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-meal-ideas/) or learn [how much food to bring on your trip](https://momgoescamping.com/how-much-food-bring-backpacking-calculator/). ## 2. Liquid Fuel Stoves **Best for:** International travel, cold weather, group cooking, and situations requiring maximum fuel versatility ### Pros: - Multiple fuel options including white gas, kerosene, diesel, and regular unleaded gasoline - Fuel available virtually anywhere with civilization - Safe to use with full windscreens, dramatically improving efficiency - Excellent heat control and simmer capability - Boils water exceptionally quickly - Stable, wide base supports large pots securely ### Cons: - White gas can be difficult to find while resupplying on the trail - Steeper learning curve than canister stoves - Requires regular maintenance (O-ring replacement, cleaning) - Lower-quality fuels may clog the stove - Risk of fuel spills that can stink up your gear - Your hands will smell like fuel after refilling - Bulkier than canister stoves for short trips ### Top Liquid Fuel Backpacking Stoves: - [MSR Whisperlite](https://amzn.to/32xhj0o) - [MSR Whisperlite Universal](#) - [Optimus Polaris](#) ### What Are Liquid Fuel Backpacking Stoves? Liquid fuel stoves consist of a refillable fuel bottle connected via tube to a burner positioned off to the side. This design offers remarkable versatility—you can fill the bottle with various fuel types depending on availability. For optimal performance, most backpackers use white gas (clean-burning and efficient). However, the real advantage appears when traveling internationally: you can use kerosene, diesel, or standard unleaded gasoline from any service station. I’ve purchased 30 cents worth of gas at remote stations across Eastern Europe when no camping fuel was available. ![The MSR Whisperlite being used with a wind screen](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/msr-whisperlite.jpg) Because the burner sits separately from the fuel bottle, you can safely surround it with a windscreen. This dramatically improves efficiency—a game-changer on windy mountain ridges. ### The Learning Curve I witnessed this firsthand on a mountaintop in Kosovo: a fellow hiker joined our camp for the night with a brand-new pressurized stove he’d never tested. He couldn’t figure out how to prime and light it, so we cooked dinner on my canister stove instead. He faced a week of uncooked spaghetti unless he mastered it quickly. **Key lesson: ALWAYS TEST YOUR GEAR AT HOME BEFORE HITTING THE TRAIL.** ### Additional Considerations Be prepared for occasional fuel spills during refilling. Lower-quality fuels may produce odors or cause clogs requiring maintenance. Unlike sealed canisters, liquid fuel doesn’t store indefinitely in the bottle—oxygen enters and degrades the fuel over time. Despite these challenges, liquid fuel stoves remain my top choice for international backpacking and cold-weather trips where canister stoves struggle. ## 3. Alcohol Stoves **Best for:** DIY enthusiasts, ultralight backpackers on a budget, and backup emergency cooking ### Pros: - Can be made for free from recycled soda cans - Alcohol fuel available almost everywhere - Extremely inexpensive fuel costs - Ultralight setup - No moving parts to break ### Cons: - Carrying liquid fuel risks spills in your pack - Difficult flame control requires practice - Painfully slow boil times (10+ minutes per liter) - No ability to turn off once lit—must burn out - Inefficient in wind without proper windscreen ### Top Alcohol Backpacking Stoves: - [Trangia Spirit Burner](#) - [TOAKS Alcohol Stove](#) - DIY soda can stove (free!) ### What Are Alcohol Stoves? Alcohol stoves represent the ultimate budget option. You can construct a functional stove from two soda cans following numerous free online tutorials. Commercial “pro” versions are also available. ![Cooking on a DIY alcohol stove made from soda cans](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/alcohol-stove-2.jpg) The major advantage is fuel availability—you can find alcohol (denatured alcohol, methylated spirits, or HEET) in hardware stores, pharmacies, and gas stations worldwide. When asking for “alcohol” fuel in foreign countries, be prepared for funny misunderstandings as locals offer you homemade brandy instead! ### The Reality Check After testing various alcohol stoves, I find them terribly inefficient. Expect at least 10 minutes to boil a liter of water—painfully slow when you’re hungry after a long day hiking. Temperature control is virtually impossible without advanced techniques. I don’t recommend alcohol stoves as your primary cooking method for backpacking. However, they make excellent backups. If you can’t find canister fuel while resupplying in remote areas, knowing how to construct and use an alcohol stove could save your trip. ## 4. Collapsible Wood Stoves **Best for:** Extended trips where fuel weight becomes burdensome, survival situations, and those who enjoy the primitive cooking experience ### Pros: - Zero fuel weight—collect twigs and sticks along the trail - Never worry about running out of fuel or resupplying - True ultralight solution when fuel weight is eliminated - Satisfying primitive experience for fire enthusiasts - Free fuel everywhere there’s wood ### Cons: - Gathering sticks and building fires takes significant time when you’re hungry - 10+ minutes minimum to boil water (often longer) - Completely unusable during fire bans - Difficult flame and heat control - Requires constant feeding and monitoring - Finding dry wood in wet weather can be challenging - Leaves soot on cookware ### Top Backpacking Wood Stoves: - [Solo Stove Lite](#) - [Vargo Hexagon Wood Stove](#) - [BioLite CampStove](http://amzn.to/2nDvJrK) (converts heat to electricity) ### What Are Collapsible Wood Stoves? I’ve experimented with various homemade “hobo stoves” and commercial portable wood stoves. They’re undeniably fun to make and use, but practical limitations become apparent during real backpacking trips. The primary issue is time. While a quality canister stove boils water in under 4 minutes, wood stoves typically require 10+ minutes—and that’s when everything goes well. Manufacturers often claim faster boil times, but real-world conditions rarely match laboratory testing. ### The Reality of Wood Stove Cooking These are hands-on stoves requiring constant attention. You’ll spend that entire 10+ minutes feeding small sticks into the fire to maintain consistent heat. Flame control takes practice and patience. The genuine advantage? Free fuel wherever wood is available. For very long backpacking trips (think thru-hikes or extended wilderness expeditions), eliminating fuel resupply concerns is valuable. The weight savings compared to carrying multiple fuel canisters becomes significant on trips longer than a week. Just be certain to check local fire restrictions before relying on a wood stove—many areas prohibit any open flames during high fire danger periods. ## 5. Solid Fuel Stoves (Esbit) **Best for:** Emergency backup, fire starting, and situations requiring absolute simplicity ### Pros: - Incredibly easy to use—just light the tablet - Cheap fuel - Extremely lightweight - Don’t even need a dedicated stove—use rocks or dig a pit - Excellent as fire starters in wet conditions - Compact and packable ### Cons: - Painfully slow boil times - Leaves stubborn, greasy residue on cookware - No flame control whatsoever - Strong, unpleasant smell (like rotting fish) - Odor permeates your pack - Can damage plastic containers ### Top Esbit Backpacking Stoves: - [Esbit Ultralight Folding Stove](#) - [Esbit Solid Fuel Tablets](#) ### What Are Esbit Stoves? Esbit tablets contain solid fuel that burns for approximately 12 minutes per 14g tablet. Simply place the tablet in the stove (or on the ground), light it, and position your pot on top. ![Solid fuel tablet lit. No use trying to control that flame!](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/esbit-solid-fuel-tablets.jpg) ### Performance Reality Like wood and alcohol stoves, Esbit tablets are frustratingly slow. Expect around 8 minutes to boil just 2 cups of water—nearly twice as long as efficient canister stoves. There’s no temperature control beyond adding more tablets or cutting tablets in half (which increases surface area for hotter, faster burning). The flame is what it is until the tablet burns out completely. ![Did I mention that solid fuel tablets leave a gross film on your pots?](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/gross-film-on-pot.jpg) ### The Downsides The residue left on cookware is genuinely unpleasant—sticky and difficult to remove. Pro tip: Coat your pot bottom with liquid soap before cooking, and you can wipe off the residue more easily afterward. The smell is another major issue. Esbit tablets smell horrible—seriously like rotting fish. This odor will permeate your pack and everything in it. ### When They’re Useful Despite these drawbacks, I keep Esbit tablets in my emergency kit. They’re inexpensive, reliable, and make excellent fire starters. In wet conditions where starting a fire seems impossible, a burning Esbit tablet’s 12-minute burn time gives you plenty of opportunity to get kindling going. **Important storage note:** Esbit tabs can eat through plastic. Store them in a plastic bag lined with aluminum foil to prevent damage. ## 6. New High-Tech “Alternative Fuel” Stoves **Best for:** Gear enthusiasts who want the latest technology and don’t mind extra weight or cost ### Pros: - Impressive “cool factor” with innovative technology - Some models charge electronic devices - Efficient wood-burning designs - Fun conversation starters at campsites ### Cons: - Higher cost for the technology premium - Often bulkier than simple alternatives - Electronics add weight and complexity - Questionable necessity for wilderness experiences ### What Are They? Alternative fuel stoves represent the latest in backpacking stove technology. The most notable example is the BioLite stove, which burns wood while converting heat into electricity for charging phones and other devices. My take? While the technology is genuinely impressive, I prefer a more minimalist backpacking approach. One reason I escape to the wilderness is to disconnect from civilization. The last thing I want is someone calling me while I’m enjoying nature! That said, these stoves have legitimate uses. If you need device charging capability for safety, navigation, or photography on extended trips, these multi-function stoves could be valuable. ### Options to Consider: - [BioLite Wood Burning Stove](http://amzn.to/2nDvJrK) (charges devices) - [Solo Stove Light](http://amzn.to/2mV2S2h) (efficient wood burning without electronics) ## Critical Safety Warning: Carbon Monoxide and Backpacking Stoves Every year, backpackers die from carbon monoxide poisoning because they cooked inside their tents. I understand the temptation—you’re exhausted, it’s raining, and cooking inside seems so much easier. **NEVER COOK INSIDE YOUR TENT. This is not optional advice. This is life-or-death.** ### Why This Matters When you burn carbon-based fuels (including gas canisters, liquid fuels, alcohol, wood, and solid tablets), the combustion process releases carbon monoxide gas. Carbon monoxide prevents your body from using oxygen properly. Poisoning occurs quickly and silently. The gas is completely odorless and colorless—you cannot detect it. By the time you feel symptoms, it may already be too late for you to get out of the tent safely. ### The Only Safe Option Cook outside your tent. Always. No exceptions. Yes, even in the rain—that’s why you pack rain gear. Your life is worth the minor inconvenience of stepping outside. If weather conditions are truly extreme, wait out the storm and eat cold food. Trail mix, energy bars, and even some dehydrated meals will eventually rehydrate in cold water. It’s not ideal, but it won’t kill you like carbon monoxide will. ## Final Thoughts: Choosing Your Backpacking Stove After years of backpacking with my family across diverse environments—from summer trails to international adventures—I’ve come to appreciate that there’s no single “best” backpacking stove. The right choice depends on your specific needs, backpacking style, and the environments you explore. For most backpackers, especially those starting out, a quality gas canister stove like the MSR Pocket Rocket offers the best balance of convenience, efficiency, and reliability. It’s what I grab for the majority of my family trips. If you’re just getting into backpacking, you’ll also want to check out my guide on [choosing your first backpack](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-buy-your-first-backpack/) and my [expert backpacking hacks](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-hacks/) to make your trips easier. However, I always travel internationally with a liquid-fuel stove. The fuel versatility and ability to use standard gasoline has saved countless trips where canister fuel simply wasn’t available in remote areas. Learn more about [traveling with backpacking gear on airplanes](https://momgoescamping.com/flying-backpacking-gear-airplane/), including important restrictions on stove fuel. Consider starting with a canister stove, then expand your collection as you gain experience and discover your specific needs. Many experienced backpackers (myself included) eventually own multiple stoves for different situations. Whatever stove you choose, test it thoroughly at home before your trip. Practice setup, lighting, and cooking. Understand its quirks and limitations in a safe environment, not when you’re tired and hungry on a remote mountaintop. Happy trails, and may all your backpacking meals be hot and delicious! *Have questions about backpacking stoves or want to share your own experiences? I’d love to hear from you in the comments below. And if you found this guide helpful, please share it with fellow backpackers!* ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** stove --- ### [10 Ways to Die While Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-dangers/) **Published:** December 5, 2024 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I know a lot of people are afraid of nature and the idea of being in the Great Outdoors.  But camping is very safe.  I’m actually more afraid of getting hit by a car in the city where I live than of supposed camping dangers like getting mauled by a bear. That said, there are some basic safety rules everyone should follow when camping, backpacking, or hiking (even on day hikes).  Just Google “*dies camping”* in the News section and you’ll see how many people meet their death. Virtually all of these deaths could have been avoided with just basic preparation. ## Some Quick Stats on Hiking Related Deaths - Women make up 12% of all hiking related deaths - The average age is 30 years old - Geographically, California recorded the highest number of accidents, representing 18% of the total, followed closely by Washington at 16% and Alaska at 15%. [![hiking deaths](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/hiked.jpg "hiked - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/hiked.jpg) So, here’s the top 10 real dangers of camping – and what you can do to avoid them. ## \#1: Falling When it comes to fatalities and serious injuries in National Parks, falling is one of the leading causes.  I know it might seem worth it to get close to the ledge in order to get the “perfect” picture – but you really don’t want to join the ranks of the many people who die while taking a selfie (like [this student](https://www.news10.com/news/national/college-student-dies-after-falling-off-cliff-while-posing-for-photo/1930510178) or [this hiker](https://www.dailycamera.com/2018/07/31/fort-collins-hiker-believed-to-have-died-instantly-in-fall-at-rocky-mountain-national-park/)). Then there are the falls because of risky behavior, like trying to climb a cliff without proper gear or experience.  And yet others who fall on steep parts of trails because they didn’t test the sturdiness of the ground or wear proper shoes. **How to Avoid It:** - Stop taking selfies on high spots! - Test the ground before you get close to a ledge - Maintain a safe distance between you and other hikers on steep areas. If the person in front of you falls, you don’t want them to take you down too. - Always wear proper footwear for hiking. - SLOW DOWN! - Use trekking poles (here are other [reasons to use trekking poles](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-poles-pros-cons/) when hiking) ## \#2: Widow-maker Trees A widow-maker tree is an old, dead, or damaged tree.  It makes widows when one of its branches falls off onto the tent, killing the person inside. Yes, this happens.  For example, [this man](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/camper-killed-falling-tree-gatineau-park-1.4776185) died from a tree falling on his head. There are plenty of other said stories about widow-maker trees (obviously they don’t just make widows; children and women have died too). **How to Avoid It:** - Don’t camp underneath trees at all, if possible. - Inspect trees before pitching your tent under them. - Don’t pitch under trees which look damaged. Signs of damage can include loose bark, fungus growing, drill marks in trunk/branches from birds or insects, and branches which look different from the others. - Avoid beech trees. These are especially dangerous. - Avoid camping on slopes. These trees can have weak root systems and fall over. ## \#3: Carbon Monoxide Poisoning How would one get carbon monoxide poisoning while camping?  It happens when campers try to cook in their tents or bring heaters into their tents. A [father and his 7-year old son died](https://www.ajc.com/news/local/teen-death-not-first-local-boy-scout-campground/fioMx49AHtXoLxueSjDUlO/) this way during a Cub Scout camping trip.  In another incident, a family of 5 survived, but all had to be hospitalized.  Take the risk seriously.  It’s better to cook in the rain or suffer through a cold night than die of CO2 poisoning! **How to avoid it:** - Never use grills, heaters, or stoves inside your tent. - If you must, cook in your tent’s vestibule instead of inside the tent. Make sure the tent remains well ventilated the entire time. - Know the [signs of CO2 exposure](https://www.chop.edu/news/health-tip/do-you-know-signs-carbon-monoxide-poisoning). ## \#4: Drowning Of all of the drownings that occur each year, nearly half of them (47.2%) are in natural water.  And, as for fatalities in National Parks, over 20% of them were from swimming or boating activities. In addition to taking caution while intentionally swimming in water, you need to be vigilant about the risk of flash flooding in canyons or ravines. Even a slight rain can cause massive flash floods in canyons, sweeping away whoever happens to be hiking there at the time.  That’s what happened to four Boy Scouts on a camping trip.  One of them died. **How to Avoid It:** - Wear life jackets whenever boating. - Set clear boundaries for children in the water. - Never swim alone in deep water. - Don’t jump or dive into water without checking the depth first. - Be aware of currents in rivers. Scout out potential downstream hazards (such as waterfalls or jagged rocks) before you get in. - Never swim drunk or intoxicated. - Don’t go hiking in a canyon when it could rain. At the first sign of rain clouds (regardless of the forecast), get the heck out of the canyon! ## \#5: Getting Lost ![mountain search and rescue](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/7657559920_119b017db4_z.jpg "mountain search and rescue - Mom Goes Camping") People underestimate how easy it is to get lost in the woods.  If you just step off the trail for a minute, it can be hard to find your way back. A lot of people also end up getting lost because they rely too much on their[ GPS](https://outdoorswithnolimits.com/best-hiking-gps/), which can be inaccurate or unreliable. According to Search and Rescue statistics, day hikers are the most at-risk. Unlike backpackers who have gear with them, day hikers often set out without much or any gear.  When they get lost, this leaves them susceptible to the elements.  They can quickly dehydrate or become hypothermic. **How to avoid it:** - Never stray off the trail. - Bring a paper map and compass with you, and know how to use them. - Be cautious at trail junctions. What seems like a trail might be a dried up stream or other natural path. - Don’t count on your cell phone to work. Bring an [emergency communication device](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-communication-devices/) with you. - Always bring basic survival gear with you, even on short hikes. Here’s a list of [what to bring hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-packing-list/). - Don’t let children go ahead of you, out of sight on the trail. Talk to them about [what to do if lost in the woods](https://momgoescamping.com/lost-in-the-woods/). ## \#6: Wildlife Attacks ![bear searching for food in a tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/bear-food-tent.jpg "bear food tent - Mom Goes Camping") This is what most people are scared about when they go camping.  But, honestly, the chances of being mauled by a bear, attacked by a cougar, bitten by a venomous snake, or any other wild animal are pretty low. Many of the injuries or deaths that occur from wild animals were because the person didn’t follow common sense.  For example, consider that *[bison injured more people at Yellowstone](https://www.nps.gov/yell/learn/nature/injuries.htm)* than any other animal.  That’s because people approach the bison thinking they are harmless, only to get charged. Take [this video of a man who growled at a bison](https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/nation-world/national/article216033885.html), provoking it to charge him. A surprising number of people are injured because of stupidity or their desire to get a [wild animal selfie](https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/2019/03/psychology-of-why-people-enter-wild-animal-enclosures-at-zoos/). **How to Avoid It:** - Research what wild animals you might encounter. - Hang a bear bag ([read how](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-hang-a-bear-bag/)) or use a bear canister in bear country. Have bear spray with you at all times. - Know [what to do if you get bit by a snake](https://momgoescamping.com/what-to-do-bitten-by-snake/). - Bring [tick tweezers](https://momgoescamping.com/tick-removal-tools-humans/). - Don’t try to take selfies with wild animals. ## \#7: Weather Conditions The weather on top of mountains can act much different than at low elevations.  Take the Rocky Mountain National Park which is over 14,000 feet at its highest peak.  The park ranks #3 for number of search and rescue missions. Chief Ranger Mark Pita says the peaks are rife with dangers. “The temperature can drop 30-40 degrees in mere minutes, even in the summer. Lightning, sleet, hail, high winds, clouds, iced up conditions — and that can happen in August.” Weather can lead to some freak accidents too.  For example, a camper in Denmark died when [high winds caused a tent stake to fly into his throat](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/denmark-camper-dead-tent-peg-throat-motorcycle-camping-winds-a8489256.html). In New Zealand, a [woman died when high winds caused lifted her tent and slammed it down](https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=3551722). **How to Avoid It:** - Be prepared for ALL weather conditions, regardless of forecasts. - Check your gear before going camping. - Never summit in bad weather. - Learn about [lightening safety during camping](https://www.canada.ca/en/environment-climate-change/services/lightning/safety/camping.html). - Learn about [avalanche safety](https://www.mountaineers.org/blog/how-to/copy_of_avalanche-safety). - Secure your tent against wind by staking it down and pitching in the correct direction. ## \#8: Vehicle Accidents Vehicle accidents are a major risk wherever you happen to be, but the risks are very different in the backcountry.  People used to driving in cities might not be prepared. For example, there are a huge number of injuries and fatalities from [animal-vehicle collisions](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/07/27/national-park-road-kill/2587753/). The winding roads of some backcountry locations can result in terrible accidents.  In [Naatchez Trace Parkway](https://www.outsideonline.com/2161406/10-most-deadly-national-parks), for example, all but two of the park’s 56 fatalities were from vehicle incidents. Then there are freak accidents. Like this man who died when [his car ran him over while he was asleep in his tent](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6539457/Campsite-horror-Four-wheel-drive-runs-kills-man-20-sleeps-tent.html). The car was parked on a slope above the tent and apparently he’d forgotten to properly brake it. **How to Avoid It:** - Avoid driving at night. - Drive slowly! - Be cautious about where you park your vehicle. - Don’t drive when you are tired. ## \#9: Heart Attack Hiking is an awesome way to get some exercise, lose weight, and improve your overall health.  However, it can also be very strenuous – which can trigger a coronary episode. On top of that, [high altitude can increase your risk of a heart attack](https://www.outsideonline.com/2156801/what-happens-your-heart-altitude).  For at-risk people, this can make hiking a particularly dangerous activity. **How to Avoid It:** - Know your physical limits. Don’t go on hikes that are too difficult for you. - Go slowly and take lots of breaks. Remember to drink lots of water along the way. - Don’t go above 8,000 feet on the first leg of a trip. Spend at least one night before going to higher elevation. - Don’t go above 12,000 feet if you have heart disease. - Never hike alone. Make sure your partner knows CPR. - Bring an [emergency communication device](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-communication-devices/) with you. Call for help at the first signs of a heart attack. ## \#10: Being Overly Ambitious You spent weeks or even months planning an adventurous camping trip.  Then, the day before you are set to leave, the forecast calls for terrible weather.  Do you cancel your trip, or push on anyway? In their desire to fulfill their adventurous plans, a lot of people end up taking dangerous risk.  Take, for example, the many hikers who are so eager to summit that they will [continue even when a lightning storm is brewing](http://www.whitneyzone.com/wz/ubbthreads.php/topics/1452/) in the distance. As a [post at Section Hiker](https://sectionhiker.com/i-dont-let-the-weather-determine-when-i-hike/) points out, saying “I don’t let the weather determine when I hike” is just plain stupid.  That sort of thinking means you are letting your ego make decisions.  Man is not more powerful than nature and the only thing you’ll prove by going out in bad conditions is that you are an idiot. **How to Avoid It:** - Know your physical limits and don’t push them. - Also know the limits of your gear. Don’t take inadequate gear into situations it isn’t meant for. - Take the weather forecast seriously. - Be prepared to turn back. - Don’t let your ego make bad decisions for you. - Add a few days to your trip so you can reschedule hikes for better weather days. - Have an exit plan. ## General Camping Safety Tips ### Know that Even Skilled, Fit People Can Get Hurt The title image of this post is of an off-duty soldier being rescued.  He fell from a cliff and was injured. In another incident, an entire US Army Special Forces team needed to be rescued during a hike.  Some members fell to altitude sickness and they all had to wait through the night to be rescued. So don’t think that you are invincible.  Take precautions and respect the power of the wilderness! ### Always Carry Survival Gear, Even On Short Hikes People on day hikes are the ones who need rescuing the most.  The reason? They are caught unprepared when weather suddenly changes, they get lost, or are injured. Make sure you always have survival gear with you, including: - A change of clothing which is warm, insulating, and not made of cotton. - Rain gear like a raincoat or poncho. - A way of starting a fire - Headlamp - Map and compass - Extra water. I also carry my [Sawyer water filter](https://momgoescamping.com/sawyer-mini-water-filter-review/). - High-calorie snacks like granola bars - A small first aid kit ([see list here](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-first-aid-checklist/)) - Whistle - Knife ### Let Someone Know Your Plans Even if you are hiking with a partner, still make sure someone knows your trip plans.  If you don’t come back on time or check in at the designated time, they can call park rangers to start looking for you.  My dad uses the SPOT finder to stay in touch while he is on his thru-hikes. --- Resources: <https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/11/18/these-charts-show-most-common-reasons-people-need-rescues-national-parks/rmxtZQhUBrPDx76XIaexrI/story.html> <https://www.kunc.org/post/rocky-mountain-national-park-third-most-search-and-rescues#stream/0> <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/26795932_Dead_Men_Walking_Search_and_Rescue_in_US_National_Parks> <https://www.nps.gov/yell/learn/news/17032.htm> <https://www.outdoorlife.com/articles/survival/2015/03/danger-zone-data-ways-people-die-outdoors> https://gearjunkie.com/falling-branch-dead-tree-widowmaker-danger <https://www.naturalnavigator.com/news/2017/05/beware-the-beechs-branches/> <https://www.health.harvard.edu/heart-health/ask-the-doctor-high-elevation-hiking-with-heart-attack-history> <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18269184> Image credits: Title photo from a 304th Rescue Squadron exercise (U.S. Air Force photo/Staff Sgt. Daniel Delgado) “[MOUNTAIN RESCUE](https://www.flickr.com/photos/billmorrow/7657559920/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [bill85704](https://www.flickr.com/people/billmorrow/) [https://www.nps.gov/grsm/learn/nature/dff309-focusnps1.htm ](https://www.nps.gov/grsm/learn/nature/dff309-focusnps1.htm) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety **Tags:** safety --- ### [Best Insulated Shell Mittens for Serious Cold](https://momgoescamping.com/best-insulated-shell-mittens/) **Published:** December 6, 2024 **Author:** Diane **Content:** In cold weather, our fingers get less warm blood because the body conserves it for vital organs. Our fingers don’t have much fat and have a high surface area, so are prone to heat loss.  The combination of these factors mean our fingers get cold fast and are at risk of frostbite.  Whether you are [winter hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/tips-hiking-winter/), skiing or shoveling snow in very cold temps, you’ll need to wear an insulated shell mitten to keep your hands warm. The following mittens all have an insulation layer and a waterproof shell layer.  They also have features like split fingers for dexterity, hand warmer pockets and touchscreen compatible fingers. **Note**: You need to wear a liner glove with insulated mitts.  Just like a base layer, the liner glove wicks sweat away from your hands.  Otherwise your insulation layer would get wet, leaving your hands cold! Read more about the [3-layer system](https://momgoescamping.com/3-layers-clothing-system/). ### [Recommended: Smartwool Liner Gloves](https://amzn.to/3VrCdeY) [![Recommended: Smartwool Liner Gloves](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51foC16iyKL._SL500_.jpg)](https://amzn.to/3VrCdeY) **Features** - Wear underneath your mitt to wick away sweat - Touchscreen compatible thumb and index finger - 48% Merino Wool [Check Price on Amazon](https://amzn.to/3VrCdeY) ## **Best Insulated Shell Mittens** ### [Outdoor Research Revolution GORE-TEX Mitts](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CNT2N9F7?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [![Outdoor Research Revolution GORE-TEX Mitts](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/31tAuTvMdBL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CNT2N9F7?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) - Outer Material: 100% Polyester (56% Recycled) 75D X 150D Plain Weave - Diamond Grip - Waterproof Insert - GORE-TEX, Insulation - Waterproof, Windproof, Breathable, Wicking - Touchscreen Compatible - Heat Pack Pocket - Nose-Wipe - Removable Leash - Glove Clip, Cinchable Gauntlet, Ladder-Lock Wrist Cinch [Check Price on Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CNT2N9F7?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) --- ### [Runner Up – Burton GoreTex Mitten](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07KXDYB44?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [![Runner Up - Burton GoreTex Mitten](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41WJD24kkAL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07KXDYB44?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) **Best because:** Warm, lots of features and not too pricy **Features:** - Dryride 2-layer shell - Thermacore insulation and Gore-tex membrane - Removable liner with fingers - Hand-warmer pocket - Touchscreen compatible - Wrist leash Burton is known for making ski and snowboarding gear.  Their gloves and mitts also work great for hiking, especially this one.  It consists of two parts: an insulated shell and a liner glove. The shell is made from Dryride with a Gore-Tex membrane.  This makes it waterproof and windproof yet still breathable. The shell also has built-in insulation made from Thermcore. When the weather isn’t too cold, you can wear just the shell. The removable liner is made from DRYRIDE Thermex, which is a very stretchy material.  There is rubber-like texture on the fingers for improved grip. The shell is good for semi-cold weather hiking. [Men’s Here](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07KXDYB44?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1)[Women’s Here](https://amzn.to/3RNWnOZ) --- ### [Budget Pick – Tough Outdoors Waterproof Mitts](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073XM7GRD?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [![Budget Pick - Tough Outdoors Waterproof Mitts](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41PkqTAqEhL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073XM7GRD?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) **Best because:** Cheap but warm and functional **Features:** - Non-removable insulation layer - Waterproof shell with breathable membrane - Synthetic leather palm - Wrist leashes - 5 sizes available For how affordable these shell mitts are, they are surprisingly good quality. The shell is waterproof but is a multi-layer fabric with a SummitLoftTPU membrane for better breathability. The insulation layer is *not* removable with these mitts, so they do take longer to dry. You also lack features like a handwarmer pocket. The dexterity could be better and the synthetic leather doesn’t withstand heat well (don’t dry them on a heater!). But, overall, they are great quality for the price. [Check Price on Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073XM7GRD?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) --- ### [Best for Mountaineering – Hestra 3 Finger Winter Mitten](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FMXE3QC?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [![Best for Mountaineering - Hestra 3 Finger Winter Mitten](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41VDQjsW45L._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FMXE3QC?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) **Best because:** Dexterity and warmth **Features:** - Removable insulation layer - Split finger insulation layer and shell - 3-layer breathable shell - Leather palm - Wrist leash and cinches - Pre-curved fingers These shell mitts are not cheap, but are very popular because of their professional design. They consist of a 3-finger insulated layer and a 3-finger waterproof shell. The fingers are precurved, so they are great for dexterity. The shell fabric consists of three layers and is breathable. The shell has a leather palm and is very durable. The wrist cuffs are a nice feature because you can let them shell mitts dangle when off without losing them. There are also cinches for keeping them in place and snow out. [Check Price on Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FMXE3QC?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1)[Check on REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F872756%2Fhestra-gloves-heli-three-finger-insulated-gloves) --- ### [Outdoor Research Arete Modular Gore-Tex 3-Finger Gloves](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DFHXMVQ9?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [![Outdoor Research Arete Modular Gore-Tex 3-Finger Gloves](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41kPtrM1qeL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DFHXMVQ9?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) - 70D x 40D Stretch Woven with DWR, - 88% Nylon, 12% SpandexWaterproof - Windproof, Breathable, Stretch, Lightweight, Water Resistant Leather Palm and Fingers - Modular Design for Adjustable Warmth and 3-in-1 Use, - Gore-Tex Waterproof Insulated Outer Glove with Fully Finished Interior - Removable Fleece Liner Glove with Touchscreen Function and Comfortable Outseam Construction - Leather Palm and Fingers - Nose Wipe at Back of Thumb - Convenient Adjustable Stretch Wrist Cinch - Full Length Adjustable Gauntlet for Weather Protection and Warmth - Robust Pull-On Loop, Removable Leashes - Glove Clip [Check Price on Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DFHXMVQ9?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) --- ### [Best Fit – REI Switchback GTX Mittens](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F194892%2Frei-co-op-switchback-gtx-mittens-20) [![Best Fit - REI Switchback GTX Mittens](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/rei-mitt.jpg)](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F194892%2Frei-co-op-switchback-gtx-mittens-20) **Best because:** Touchscreen compatible, lightweight   **Features:** - Gore-Tex shell - Removable fleece liner with fingers - Touchscreen compatible thumb and finger on both shell and liner - Cinch straps - Attachment for glove leash - Nose-wipe on thumb - Precurved fingers These updated REI Switchback GTX mittens are really popular because you can use the liner by itself or with the shell on top. The liners actually have five fingers, so aren’t as warm as a mitten-type liner, but allow for more functionality. There are some nice extra design features on the mitts, like the softer material on the thumb for wiping your nose. The mitts are sewn in way that the fingertip seams don’t hit your poles and fit well, and the dexterity is good. These aren’t the warmest mitts, but they will keep your fingers warm in temps down to around 0F. [Check Price](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F194892%2Frei-co-op-switchback-gtx-mittens-20) --- ## Guide to Buying Cold-Weather Mittens ![hiking gloves in very cold weather](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/4198866714_4fa395b0b8_z.jpg "hiking gloves in very cold weather - Mom Goes Camping") If you are confused about what type of mittens to get for cold winter weather, here’s a rundown of the types and features you want to look for. ### Gloves versus Mittens When it comes to warmth, mittens are superior to gloves.  Because your hands are together and surrounded by the insulation, you lose much less heat than if you were wearing gloves. Compared to mittens, gloves also cut off circulation. Take a look at your hand in natural position. Do you see any large gaps between your fingers for insulation? No! Insulated gloves will cause you to spread your fingers out unnaturally, potentially cutting off circulation.  This will make your fingers cold.  This is why mittens are so much better. However, the downside is that mittens lack dexterity. ### **Choose Mitts with Removable Insulation Layer** Better-quality shell mittens will have a removable liner.  There are several benefits to this design which make it worth paying more for: - **Fast drying:** Remove the liner to dry each faster - **Versatility:** You can wear the liners by themselves or with the shell - **Backups:** If the liner gets wet, you can remove it and put the shell over a backup insulation layer (such as a cheap pair of fleece gloves). ### Finger or Mitten Liner? When mittens have a removable liner, it will either have a five finger, split fingers or mitten design.  In general, **it’s better to get a mitten liner.**  This is because you will be able to wear a liner glove underneath the mitten layer. The liner glove serves as your base layer to wick away sweat.  Otherwise your insulation layer can end up wet, which will make your hands get cold quickly. You can still wear a liner glove under a 5-finger insulation liner, but it isn’t as comfortable.  So choose a mitt which has fingered liners if the temperatures won’t be too cold, dexterity is important, or you really want to wear the liners by themselves. ### Dexterity of Shell Gloves Even though they are warmer than gloves, mittens don’t have as much dexterity. This can make it a challenge to do tasks like check your GPS, adjust boot straps or set up camp. **For good dexterity, look for mitts with these features:** - Split-finger (aka 3-finger) design - Pre-curved fingers and palm - Five-finger or split-finger removable liner ### Warmth of the Shell Mitt Some of the better brands of shell mittens list a temperature rating.  However, most do not list this info, leaving you to guess how warm the mittens will be. If you need really warm mittens (such as below 0F windchill temps), you should look for these features: - Insulation type and amount listed - Mitten-type liner (no fingers) - Hand warmer pocket - Gauntlet cinch to keep out snow - Wrist cinch to trap warmth ### Other Features Here are some of the main features to look for when buying shell mitts. - **Wrist leash:** This is a loop that goes around your wrist so you don’t lose the mitt when you remove it. You definitely want this feature with shell mittens. - **Reinforced palms:** The palm gets a lot of use when hiking with poles (which you are probably doing in winter). Leather palms are the most durable but many synthetics are nearly as tough. - **Touchscreen compatible:** If you use devices frequently while hiking, then you need this feature. It is usually the insulating layer that has touchscreen compatibility, so you’ll need to remove the overmitt to use devices. [![hiking gloves semi cold weather](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/9905216994_46b5e035b3_z-e1573639667745.jpg "hiking gloves for semi cold weather - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/9905216994_46b5e035b3_z-e1573639667745.jpg)Wrist straps are awesome for when you need to take your mitts off while hiking --- ###### Some resources for this article include: <https://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/archive/index.php/t-2379.html>, <https://www.adkhighpeaks.com/forums/forum/hiking/general-hiking-information/24228-winter-hiking-glove-setup>, <https://forum.quartertothree.com/t/recommendations-for-gloves-that-actually-will-keep-my-fingers-warm/77981/14>, https://sectionhiker.com/winter-hiking-and-mountaineering-glove-systems/, <https://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php/65048-Hiking-gloves> ###### image credits: “[Grand Canyon – serious gear for serious](https://www.flickr.com/photos/alanenglish/4198866714/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Al\_HikesAZ](https://www.flickr.com/people/alanenglish/) “[Snowshoe](https://www.flickr.com/photos/umnak/5460268068/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [Umnak](https://www.flickr.com/people/umnak/) “[Jeff – almost done](https://www.flickr.com/photos/brewbooks/9905216994/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [brewbooks](https://www.flickr.com/people/brewbooks/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking --- ### [14 Expert-Level Backpacking Hacks](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-hacks/) **Published:** August 16, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Want to cut weight from your pack? Use less fuel? Or make meal cleanup easier when backpacking and hiking? Here are just some of the cool backpacking hacks I’ve picked up which will make your trip easier. ## 1. Turn Softshell Jacket into Pillow No need to bring a pillow backpacking when you can just use your jacket! This method creates a perfect pillow which stays in place. ![turn jacket into pillow no title](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/turn-jacket-into-pillow-no-title-918x1024.jpg "turn jacket into pillow no title - Mom Goes Camping") ## 2. Use Boot as Coffee Cup Holder As a bonus, it will also keep your coffee hot longer. [![backpacking hack boot as coffee cup holder](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/camping-hack-boot-as-coffee-cup-holder.jpg "camping hack boot as coffee cup holder - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/camping-hack-boot-as-coffee-cup-holder.jpg) ## 3. Scrub Pots with Grass For all you ultralight backpackers who don’t want to bring a sponge, just use grass to scrub your cook pots clean.  Also read: [How to do dishes backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/wash-dishes-backpacking/). [![backpacking hack scrub with grass](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/camping-hack-scrub-with-grass.jpg "camping hack scrub with grass - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/camping-hack-scrub-with-grass.jpg) ## 4. Use Your Sleeping Bag Stuff Sack As a Day Bag Need to do chores near camp but don’t want to take your giant pack? Use your stuff sack for carrying things instead. [![backpacking hack use stuff sack for day pack](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/camping-hack-stuff-sack-for-day-pack.jpg "camping hack stuff sack for day pack - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/camping-hack-stuff-sack-for-day-pack.jpg) ## 5. Make Clothespins Out of Branches Sticks Got wet clothes which you need to hang? Use a knife to cut a wick branch partially down the middle to create a clothespin. [![backpacking hack make clothespins](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/camping-hack-clothes-pin.jpg "camping hack clothes pin - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/camping-hack-clothes-pin.jpg) ## 6. Use a Fisherman’s Knot to Tie Cord Together Rope too short? You can use the double or triple fisherman’s knot to tie two pieces of cord together. The knot is stupidly easy, very secure and can be undone easily too. ![fishermans knot for tying two ropes together](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/camping-hack-fishermans-knot-1.jpg "camping hack fishermans knot - Mom Goes Camping") ## 7. Keep Extra Hair Bands On Your Water Bottle. Trust me, you’ll need them for things like closing food baggies! [![backpacking hack hair bands](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/camping-hack-hair-band.jpg "camping hack hair band - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/camping-hack-hair-band.jpg) ## 8. Pre-Soak Pasta Before Cooking to Save Fuel This also helps you calculate exactly how much water you need for cooking. [![camping hack pre soak pasta](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/camping-hack-pre-soak-pasta.jpg "camping hack pre soak pasta - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/camping-hack-pre-soak-pasta.jpg) ## 9. Use Your Pack Rain Cover for Hanging Food Then you don’t need to bring a separate waterproof bag for the food.  \*This pic is a critter hang, not a [bear bag hang](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-hang-a-bear-bag/). ### [![backpacking hack hanging critter bag with rain cover](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/camping-hack-rain-cover-food-bag.jpg "camping hack rain cover food bag - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/camping-hack-rain-cover-food-bag.jpg) ## 10. Utilize Straps to Hang Wet Things Outside Your Pack Your pack probably has a lot of straps.  Make use of them! ![camping hack wet clothes off of backpack](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/camping-hack-wet-clothes-2.jpg "camping hack wet clothes 2 - Mom Goes Camping") ## 11. Line Your Bowl with a Tortilla. It makes dishes cleanup easier! ![tortilla](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/tortillas.jpg "tortilla - Mom Goes Camping") ## 12. Hold Your Finger In the Middle of the Bag to Pour Out Half Measuring out half of the powdered milk in this baggie. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/camping-hack-measuring-from-bags.jpg "camping hack measuring from bags - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/camping-hack-measuring-from-bags.jpg) ## 13. Eat Cookie Crumbs with a Spoon Your cookies will end up all smashed in the bottom of the snack bag.  Eat them up for dessert with a spoon. [![camping hack spoon to eat cookie crumbs](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/camping-hack-spoon-to-eat-cookie-crumbs.jpg "camping hack spoon to eat cookie crumbs - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/camping-hack-spoon-to-eat-cookie-crumbs.jpg) ## 14. Plan Trip Around Water You won’t have to carry as much water while you hike, meaning your pack will be a LOT lighter. [![filtering water while backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/camping-hack-water.jpg "camping hack water - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/camping-hack-water.jpg) --- ###### Image credit: [Triple Fishermans Knot](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:TripleFishermansKnot.jpg) by [Hadron137](https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Hadron137&action=edit&redlink=1), [CC](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Creative_Commons) [Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.en) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Backpacking --- ### [How to Go Tent Camping with Toddlers](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-with-toddler/) **Published:** May 24, 2019 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Camping with a toddler can be incredibly challenging. You’ve got to deal with tantrums, safety issues, chasing after your toddler who never sits still… But, then again, these things are part of everyday life with toddlers.  So, don’t be intimidated about the idea of taking your toddler camping!  Here’s what you need to know to have a good trip camping with a toddler. ## 1. Choose a Toddler-Friendly Campground Some campgrounds really aren’t set up well for camping with little kids.  You’ll want to carefully research the campground, taking into consideration things like: - **Distance from home:** For weekend camping trips, it’s probably not worth driving a long distance only to arrive with a cranky toddler. - **Safety issues:** Is there a lake or pool your toddler might fall into? Are there lots of RVs driving close by the campsites, potentially hitting your toddler?  Does the campground have issues with bears or other wild animals? - **Amenities:** Look for clean amenities like clean bathrooms, potable water, electric hookups, and a camp store where you can buy anything you forgot. - **Shade:** A shady campsite means you don’t have to worry about your toddler getting burned while playing outside. **Tip:** Ask for a secluded campsite when making your reservation.  Some campgrounds will even put families near each other. ## 2. Prepare Your Toddler for Camping Some children just don’t handle new situations well (and there’s absolutely no shame if your toddler is one of them!).  Try to expose your toddler to camping as much as possible before the trip and the trip should go more smoothly.  You can: - **Set up the tent in the backyard:** Let your toddler play in the tent and even sleep there overnight. - **Test out other gear too:** Like letting your toddler sleep in her new sleeping bag or go for a test ride in the carrier. - **Let your toddler help pack:** As much as possible anyway. Explain what each item is to get them excited. - **Watch TV shows and books with camping themes:** There are episodes of [Curious George](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0dn0N-JTY8&ab_channel=CuriousGeorgeOfficial) and [Peppa Pig](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83r-mGoogxY&ab_channel=PeppaPigSurprise) where they go camping and [Cocomelon](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrDTSB5bVS4&ab_channel=Cocomelon-NurseryRhymes) has a few camping songs. There are also lots of great [camping books for little kids](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=camping&i=stripbooks&rh=n%3A4%2Cp_n_feature_five_browse-bin%3A2578998011&dc&qid=1614245123&rnid=2245026011&ref=sr_nr_p_n_feature_five_browse-bin_1&_encoding=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=9607e392cf50c417bf2f2b44d0299c60&camp=1789&creative=9325). ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/testing-out-toddler-sleeping-bag.jpg "testing out toddler sleeping bag - Mom Goes Camping")*My toddler playing with her new sleeping bag BEFORE our camping trip* ## 3. What Gear to Bring You don’t need any extra special extra gear for camping with a toddler.  But some extra gear will make your life much easier. For example, you might want a portable high chair to make meal time easier. Or glow sticks to put on your toddler at night so they don’t get lost. A stroller or child carrier backpack is a must-have if you want to go on hikes. **For more, read: [Toddler Camping Essentials (Printable Checklist)](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-essentials-toddlers/)** ## 4. Sleep Setup For most parents, sleeping in a tent is what stresses them out most about camping.  Luckily, some outdoor brands have started making camping gear for toddlers.  Your toddler will need a sleeping bag (see these [**best toddler sleeping bags**](https://momgoescamping.com/best-toddler-sleeping-bags-camping/)) and a sleeping pad.  If your toddler has a tendency to squirm all over the place at night, you might want to bring a [**portable toddler camping bed**](https://momgoescamping.com/toddler-camping-beds/) too. **Worried about naps, nighttime waking, your toddler’s crying bothering the neighbors? Read this detailed post on [How to Get a Toddler to Sleep while Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/toddler-camping-sleep/).** ![best sleeping bags for toddlers camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/best-sleeping-bag-for-toddlers.jpg "best sleeping bag for toddlers - Mom Goes Camping")*Happy little toddler in his [Morrison sleeping bag](https://morrisonoutdoors.com?aff=3)* ## 5. Dressing Your Toddler for Camping You need to bring clothes so your toddler can play outside regardless of the weather.  You don’t want to keep an energetic toddler stuck in the tent for hours because the weather took a turn for the worse!  Ideally, you dress your toddler in layers.  The layering system helps you regulate temperature better and you can quickly remove any layers which get wet or dirty. **Tips:** - **Bring a clothesline:** You can use it to dry out anything that got very wet. - **Rain suits are a must!** They not only keep your toddler *dry* in the rain, but keep her *clean* when playing outside after the rain has stopped. See these [**best rain suits for toddlers**](https://momgoescamping.com/best-rain-suits-toddlers/). - **You need rain pants too:** I’m assuming you’ve already got a rain jacket. The pants are also a must-have. Otherwise you will get wet and muddy when you go to pick up your child. - **Avoid cotton:** Cotton soaks up water and dirty like a sponge and takes forever to dry. If you have to use cotton clothes, then make sure to bring plenty of extras. - **Invest in good base layers:** If you don’t want to shell out money for a complete camping outfit for your toddler, at least get some good wool base layers. These are key to keeping your child warm and dry. See these [**good options**](https://momgoescamping.com/best-camping-pajamas-for-kids/). ![toddler playing in rain suit](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/rain-suits-not-rainy.jpg "rain suits not rainy - Mom Goes Camping")*A rain suit means your toddler can play outside in the rain and wont get dirty if its muddy out* ## 6. Camping Food for Toddlers Meals are one of my favorite parts about camping.  But mealtime can also be a major pain when camping with a toddler – especially if your toddler is picky.  Hungry toddlers get cranky and it’s not like you can just reach into the fridge and offer something else.  And let’s not forget how messy mealtime can be. **Tips:** - **Choose easy meals:** They should be quick and only require one pot. See these [**fast, easy and kid-friendly camping meal ideas**](https://momgoescamping.com/easy-camping-meals/) - **Plan meals you know your toddler likes** If you want to bring freeze-dried camping meals, let your toddler try it at home first. - **Bring a portable chair:** Such as [**this one**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078K5LM9Z/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B078K5LM9Z&linkId=8a5f3b0eb72fbaa008bcf511e0400cf1). - **Use a giant bib:** Which saves you from having to change clothes yet again. ![omniboost chair camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/omniboost-chair.jpg "omniboost chair - Mom Goes Camping")*The [OmniBoost](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078K5LM9Z/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B078K5LM9Z&linkId=1f6e841fe15973dd2e1aa908936b9edc) is a great folding booster with a tray for camping* ## 7. Toddler Camping Activities It’s okay to plan some activities to do with your toddler, like hiking, biking, or a scavenger hunt.  Your toddler will also appreciate campgrounds which have sandboxes, playgrounds, or a lake where they can splash. But try not to over-plan camping activities: unstructured playtime is crucial for building creativity, resilience, and imagination. When left to their own devices, even young toddlers will come up with things to do on their own.  For example, my two-year old once spent 40 minutes happily poking a muddy puddle with a stick. Meanwhile, I got to relax and drink my coffee while enjoying a spectacular view.  How often does that happen at home? 🙂 Not convinced? See these [30+ Camping Activities for Kids which Require Zero Prep](https://momgoescamping.com/activities-entertain-kids-camping/) If you do feel the need to bring toys for your toddler camping, choose open-ended ones like buckets and shovels or an adventure kit like [this one](https://amzn.to/348f8Cr).![](//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&l=am2&o=1&a=B07QLXTQJF) ## 8. Plan for Bathroom Issues One of the difficult parts about camping with a toddler is going to the bathroom.  If your toddler is potty-trained, she might not be able to make it to the camp bathroom on time. Not to mention that the bathroom might be gross or, when on nature walks, there might not be a bathroom at all. **Tips:** - **Bring a portable potty:** You’ll walk to the camp bathroom to empty it. See [these toddler travel potties which are great for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/best-toddler-potties-camping/) - **Choose a campground with good bathrooms:** It’s hard to clean a portable potty in an outhouse. It’s even harder to use an outhouse with a toddler. - **Get a campsite close to the bathrooms:** Then you won’t have to walk as far to empty the potty. - **Follow Leave No Trace:** On nature walks, you’ll need a trowel for burying your toddler’s poo. Or make a “wag bag” for packing it out. - **Be careful with wipes:** Baby wipes can take hundreds of years to decompose. Don’t bury them. They also aren’t allowed in many outhouses. You’ll need to put them in the trash. ## 9. Keeping Your Toddler Safe Yes, there are a lot of potential safety issues when camping with a toddler.  Your toddler might eat a poisonous berry, fall off a steep cliff, wander off and get lost… Not to mention other [camping dangers](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-dangers/) like widow-maker trees and wild animals. But, all of these safety hazards can all be mitigated with knowledge and planning. **Tips:** - **Bring a Pack-n-Play to put your toddler in while you do camp tasks** - **Consider a leash for your toddler.** - **Research which plants are poisonous.** - **Keep a very safe distance away from the campfire.** - **Avoid camping right next to water where your child could drown.** - **Follow these [tips to prevent your child from getting lost](https://momgoescamping.com/kids-getting-lost-hiking/).** - **Pack a complete first aid kit (here’s a [full checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/travel-first-aid-kit-list/))** - **Check for ticks often. Here’s** [**how to remove ticks.** ](https://momgoescamping.com/tick-removal-tools-humans/) ## 10.  Remember, It’s Worth It! Camping with a toddler is lots of fun. However, don’t let all those happy-toddler-camper images you see on Instagram fool you. *There WILL be stressful times!* *You will get exhausted at times.* *Your toddler will probably get some scratches, bites, or stings.* **But it is worth it.** Not only does camping with my toddler mean I get out of the house (where I tend to go crazy quickly), but it’s a great bonding experience.  All that dirt builds their immune systems.  And I’m certain that the time outdoors is good for their physical and mental development. My advice is this: When things start getting stressful on the camping trip with your toddler, just think about what you’d be doing at home.  Chances are there would have been a struggle there too.  For example, my toddler will cry at bedtime whether in her crib or a tent. When I remember this, bedtime while camping isn’t as stressful. --- Image credit:”[the boy’s first camping trip](https://www.flickr.com/photos/koadmunkee/7911446720/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [koadmunkee](https://www.flickr.com/people/koadmunkee/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** toddlers --- ### [The 14 Best Board Games for Camping (Or for Anyone Who Loves Nature)](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-board-games/) **Published:** February 17, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** If you are looking for the best board games to take camping, the games below are fantastic options.  They all have camping or wilderness themes.  Some of the camping board games also have amazing artwork featuring national parks or wildlife.  I’ve made sure only to include the board games which are highly-rated as well as games for various age groups from little kids to adults. So here are the camping and nature-themed board games, in no particular order. If you know of any other camping-themed board games, let us know in the comments section below.  And, if you are still worried that your kids will get bored, check out this post of [30 Camping Activities for Kids which Require Zero Prep](https://momgoescamping.com/activities-entertain-kids-camping/). ## [Parks by Keymaster ](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07SVNZXY4/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07SVNZXY4&linkId=7e28cdfe609e1a4e67c3739a0c4a3cb0) [![parks board game](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/parks-board-game.jpg "parks board game - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/parks-board-game.jpg) **Age: 10+ Number of Players:** 1-5 **Description:** Players are hikers who trek on different trails in national parks.  The hikers have to do actions and collect memories which are represented by tokens of mountains, forests and wildlife. Memories allow you to visit a National Park at the end of a hike. Each trail represents one season of the year, and each season, the trails will change and grow steadily longer. The trails, represented by tiles, get shuffled in between each season and laid out anew for the next round. Resources can be tough to come by especially when someone is at the place you’re trying to reach! Campfires allow you to share a space and time with other hikers. Canteens and Gear can also be used to improve your access to resources through the game. [**Buy Parks Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07SVNZXY4/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07SVNZXY4&linkId=7e28cdfe609e1a4e67c3739a0c4a3cb0) --- ## [Photosynthesis](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074K5W5N5/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B074K5W5N5&linkId=c6919b6b3574195d57f7f5fe8b09f02d) [![Photosynthesis board game](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/photosynthesis-game.jpg "photosynthesis game - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/photosynthesis-game.jpg) **Age: 8+ Number of Players:** 2-4 **Description:** Photosynthesis is one of the best environmental board games referring to the life cycle of trees, for science and biology enthusiasts. This best-selling board game has an amazing table presence with an ever-changing forest Photosynthesis uses an Action Points Allowance System mechanism. Take your trees through their life-cycle, from seedling to full bloom to rebirth, and earn light points as their leaves collect energy from the revolving sun’s rays. Carefully pick where you sow and when you grow, as trees in the shadows are blocked from light, and from points. This game features realistic gameplay and beautiful graphics. **[Buy Photosynthesis Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074K5W5N5/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B074K5W5N5&linkId=c6919b6b3574195d57f7f5fe8b09f02d)** --- ## [Wingspan](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07YQ641NQ/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07YQ641NQ&linkId=417f038f043b00565558f0a0948ce832) ![wingspan board game](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/wingspan.jpg "wingspan - Mom Goes Camping") **Age: 10+ Number of Players:** 1-5 **Description:** This is one of the most gorgeous wilderness-themed board games and it comes with 170 unique cards plus colorful eggs and tokens.  It rightly has won number awards.  You play as a bird enthusiasts who wants to attract the best birds to your wildlife preserve. seeking to discover and attract the best birds to your network of wildlife preserves. Each bird extends a chain of powerful combinations in one of your habitats (actions). These habitats focus on several key aspects of growth: - Gain food tokens via custom dice in a birdfeeder dice tower - Lay eggs using egg miniatures in a variety of colors - Draw from hundreds of unique bird cards and play them **[Buy Wingspan Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07YQ641NQ/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07YQ641NQ&linkId=417f038f043b00565558f0a0948ce832)** --- ## [AmericanFlat National Park Adventure](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08L5RBR3J/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08L5RBR3J&linkId=bf303204b2b15ad52e4a232768a9669c) ![National Parks adventure game](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/national-parks-adventure-game.jpg "national parks adventure game - Mom Goes Camping") **Age:** 7+ **Number of Players:** 2-6 **Description:** Created by National Park enthusiasts, this board game lets you explore all 62 National Parks. Share your love of the great outdoors and create new memories with a board game that really gets the competitive juices flowing. Play by traveling across the board, collecting either 1 of every keeper card (aquatic, bird, animal, landmark) or 4 of the same category before your opponents. Winner is the first to the center! There are two playing styles depending on players’ ages. [**Buy National Parks Adventure Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08L5RBR3J/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08L5RBR3J&linkId=bf303204b2b15ad52e4a232768a9669c) --- ## [Shadows in the Forest](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DGSMNTC/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07DGSMNTC&linkId=8d57b0aae195678e64eada57525b3ae6) [![shadows in the forest board game](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/shadows-in-the-forest.jpg "shadows in the forest - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/shadows-in-the-forest.jpg) **Age: 8+ Number of Players:** 2-7 **Description:** Shadows in the Dark is an especially good board game for camping because it is played in the dark. One player moves the LED lantern around in search of Shadowlings, mysterious creatures who avoid the light. The lantern illuminates the forest and trees, casting real shadows on the game board. The rest of the players work together, strategically moving their Shadowlings to stay out of the light in this innovative board game for kids and families. [**Buy Shadows in the Forest Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DGSMNTC/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07DGSMNTC&linkId=8d57b0aae195678e64eada57525b3ae6) --- ## [Hive](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EN5ZLW/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B000EN5ZLW&linkId=dacfe5e4d9c7f0f207ba5aff1e4ca7c5) [![hive](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/hive.jpg "hive - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/hive.jpg) **Age: 9+ Number of Players:** 2 **Description:** The object of the game is to surround your opponent’s queen bee while trying to block your opponents from doing the same. Each Player has 11 tiles; representing 5 different insects. Each insect has a unique way of moving and resembles the movement of the insect depicted on the tile.  Games last only about 10 minutes and there is no board (only tiles), so it is very travel-friendly. [**Buy Hive Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EN5ZLW/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B000EN5ZLW&linkId=dacfe5e4d9c7f0f207ba5aff1e4ca7c5) --- ## [Trekking the National Parks](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07H185K6H/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07H185K6H&linkId=0c33763f8d1cfc6c3ddea49d44603dc9) [![trekking the national parks board game for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/trekking-the-national-parks.jpg "trekking the national parks - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/trekking-the-national-parks.jpg) **Age: 10+ Number of Players:** 2-5 **Description:** Trekking the National Parks is a spirited family board game (note it’s *not* a trivia game) that lets players experience the U.S. National Parks in a fun and competitive way. Players compete for points by claiming Park Cards and collecting trail stones as they race across the country experiencing the wonders at each of these magnificent landscapes. The game was specially designed to be both entertaining and educational. Every park card features an interesting fact and gorgeous photograph that will inspire players to explore the protected natural wonders of America. Each game also begins with a unique setup that alters the play experience in surprising ways, allowing for endless replayability. [**Buy Trekking the National Parks Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07H185K6H/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07H185K6H&linkId=0c33763f8d1cfc6c3ddea49d44603dc9) --- ## [Mountains](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07SP9NF3Y/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07SP9NF3Y&linkId=4e7d1e4f7e4ba18ba5bfdf009485dc42) **Age: 8+ Number of Players:** 2-5 **Description:** The hiking season has begun! Do you have the right equipment for the hike you picked? If not, the swap negotiations begin! A good memory, some luck, and a favor or two from your fellow hikers will help you collect the most stamps in your Summits Book to win the game. Game length is about 20-30 minutes. [**Buy Mountains Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07SP9NF3Y/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07SP9NF3Y&linkId=4e7d1e4f7e4ba18ba5bfdf009485dc42) --- ## [National Parks Opoly](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0876HRBNY/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B0876HRBNY&linkId=a8caddad699b5e79ca418f16fc6806eb) [![National Parks Monopoly](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/national-parks-monopoly-jr.jpg "national parks monopoly jr - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/national-parks-monopoly-jr.jpg) **Age: 6+ Number of Players:** 2-8 **Description:** Get ready for a Junior Ranger adventure! Travel all over the USA exploring famous National parks and their most iconic animals. Spot growling Grizzlies, wild wolves, and more… all in their native habitats. As you collect National parks, learn unique facts about each one on the back of the card. Just make sure you don’t miss the bus or get lost along the way. Discover awe-inspiring landscapes and amazing animals with National parks opoly Junior. **[Buy National Parks Monopoly Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0876HRBNY/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B0876HRBNY&linkId=a8caddad699b5e79ca418f16fc6806eb)** --- ## [The Alpha](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B087KQP47D/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B087KQP47D&linkId=68a638d567eff637c197929388630431) [![The Alpha board game for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/alpha-board-game.jpg "alpha board game - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/alpha-board-game.jpg) **Age: 10+ Number of Players:** 3-6 **Description:** Send your wolves to hunt in various regions and outnumber rival packs to become dominant. Roll the dice for the region to determine the success of the hunt. But beware, if a rival pack is in region you must decide to fight or share the food. To win, collect the most food at the end of 5 rounds to be… The Alpha!  Game time is about 45 minutes. [**Buy The Alpha Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B087KQP47D/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B087KQP47D&linkId=68a638d567eff637c197929388630431) --- ## [Wildcraft!](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001M9JD9W/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B001M9JD9W&linkId=44e7f7246a23d8c37eb9b47f12d11dab) [![Wildcraft board game](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/wildcraft-board-game.jpg "wildcraft board game - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/wildcraft-board-game.jpg) **Age: 4+ Number of Players:** 1-4 **Description:** This is a game that adults will actually enjoy playing with their little kids. It teaches kids about medicinal plants in a fun, exciting way.  Players go on quests through ecosystems and have obstacles like waterfalls to slide down, logs to cross and deer trails to follow.  They learn about medicinal plants when choosing the right ones to heal their “trouble”.  It is a cooperative game so players win by helping each other. [**Buy Wildcraft Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001M9JD9W/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B001M9JD9W&linkId=44e7f7246a23d8c37eb9b47f12d11dab) --- ## [National Parks Matching Game](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B098JPK3H4/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B098JPK3H4&linkId=a064d09a7b0296c5a8b48bffe84e6696) [![National Parks matching memory game](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/national-parks-matching-game.jpg "national parks matching game - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/national-parks-matching-game.jpg) **Age: 3+ Number of Players:** 1+ **Description:** This is a wilderness version of the classic memory matching game. It has 18 matching pairs of cards featuring wildlife and camping themes.  The illustrations are really gorgeous. **[Buy the National Parks Matching Game Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B098JPK3H4/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B098JPK3H4&linkId=a064d09a7b0296c5a8b48bffe84e6696)** --- ## [Camp](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0010SSBNY/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B0010SSBNY&linkId=89e99a37e78bfed07f240fd8e56a66ec) [![Camp board game](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/camp-board-game.jpg "camp board game - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/camp-board-game.jpg) **Age: 4+ Number of Players:** 2-8 **Description:** Camp is a game where both children & adults can play & learn fun facts about the great outdoors.  It’s not a trivia game though – the cards are simply educational. Designed to grow with the player, starting at level one questions; animal identification. [**Buy Camp Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0010SSBNY/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B0010SSBNY&linkId=89e99a37e78bfed07f240fd8e56a66ec) --- ## [Bears](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019INASRE/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B019INASRE&linkId=0a50d06dfb5ba7d42b42d193ac0f9700) [![Bears dice game](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/bears-dice-game.jpg "bears dice game - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/bears-dice-game.jpg) **Age: 7-15 Number of Players:** 2-4 **Description:** This is a bear and camping-themed dice game.  You roll five white dice and start making pairs.  Valid pairs including things like a sleeping bag and tent.  Each game lasts about 20 minutes.  There is no board and the game is travel-friendly. There is an expansion so you can play with more people. [**Buy Bears Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019INASRE/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B019INASRE&linkId=0a50d06dfb5ba7d42b42d193ac0f9700) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids --- ### [Best Rain Suits for Kids (Toddlers) : As Chosen by an Outdoorsy Mom](https://momgoescamping.com/best-rain-suits-toddlers/) **Published:** May 15, 2019 **Author:** Diane **Content:** One of the best things I bought for my toddler by far was a waterproof rain suit.  Why? Because I live in a tiny apartment.  If I couldn’t go outside on rainy days, I’d go insane.  My energetic toddler also would go crazy trapped indoors, which would make me more insane. Having a rain suit for my toddler also means we can do things like go camping in bad weather. I can let her dig in dirt or play in muddy puddles.  And I don’t have to deal with as much laundry thanks to the rain suit. Below I’ve gone over my top picks for best toddler rain suits (some of which I tried and  some of which I learned about from other outdoorsy parents).  These include one-piece and two-piece rain suits, fleece-lined suits, and toddler rain pants too. ## Best Baby and Toddler Rain Suits All of these toddler rain suits are machine washable, have elastic cuffs, and sealed seams.  Some are one-piece and others are two-piece rain suits. The main differences are the zipper types, whether the knees/butt are reinforced, and available sizes. If you need advice about how to choose a toddler rain suit, there’s info at the end of the post. | Image | Product | Features | Price | |---|---|---|---| | [![Therm Kids 10K Rain Suit](https://thermkids.ca/cdn/shop/products/TW24118Ocean-00.jpg?v=1709580778&width=1800)](https://thermkids.com/?dt_id=532512) | [Therm Kids 10K Rain Suit](https://thermkids.com/?dt_id=532512) | This company gets my top pick for rain suits because they are so well made. There is rubberized reinforced areas on the butt and knees, so water won’t seep through even if your toddler kneels or sits in a puddle. The waterproof rating is 10,000mm and the breathability is good too.  As an extra bonus, the company uses 100% recycled materials to make the entire suit. And it’s a small mom-owned company. 🙂   I just wish there was an elastic cuff to keep the legs from riding up. The fold-over cuffs aren’t very useful for walking toddlers, except to keep their hands warm. **Features:** - Sizes: 6 to 24 months - Reinforced knees and butt - 10,000mm waterproof rating - Fleece lined - Two-way zipper with soft fabric guard - Reflective strips on front and back - 100% recycled materials **\*Use code CAMPINGWITHMOM to get 10% off your entire order!\*** | [Check Price on THERM](https://thermkids.com/?dt_id=532512) | | [![Oaki Wear Toddler Rain and Trail Suit](https://c.media-amazon.com/images/I/613zmwU2RmL._AC_SX679_.jpg)](https://amzn.to/3RklStb) | [Oaki Wear Toddler Rain and Trail Suit](https://amzn.to/3RklStb) | This is a hardcore rain suit for toddlers and little kids.  It is made out of a thicker material than most, so holds up well against abuse.  The thicker material also means it is warmer (it’s not insulated).  Some parts of the suit have 18,000mm waterproof rating.  There are also areas with 8,000mm waterproofness, which allows for better breathability. One feature I love is the Velcro cuffs.  They are more comfy than stirrup straps but can be clinched around your toddler’s boots so water doesn’t enter.  I also like that there’s a drawstring around the middle, so the rain suits aren’t as baggy and will fit skinny toddlers well. **Features:** - Sizes: from 1 to 11 years - 18,000mm & 8,000mm waterproof rating materials - 3,000 mvp breathability - Draw string cinch around waist - Reflective strips - Waterproof zippers - Adjustable Velcro cuffs - Lots of colors | [Check Price on AMAZON](https://amzn.to/3RklStb) | | [![Tuffo Muddy Buddy Rain Suit](https://c.media-amazon.com/images/I/51gl98XYSTL._AC_SX679_.jpg)](https://amzn.to/4uHVLuL) | [Tuffo Muddy Buddy Rain Suit](https://amzn.to/4uHVLuL) | This is one of the most popular toddler rain suits, mostly because it is so cheap.  Despite it’s low price, the suit is made pretty well.  The seams don’t leak (at least not after a season of use). The breathability is pretty terrible, but that’s to be expected with cheap fabric like this. A nice feature is that there are two zippers, so you can get your toddler in/out of the rain suit easily.  Unfortunately, there aren’t any stirrup straps and the elastic cuffs will ride up on boots.  Unlike the Oaki rain suit, there isn’t a drawstring at the waist.  It will fit very baggy on skinny toddlers. **Features:** - Sizes: 1 to 5 years - Lots of colors - Elastic on cuffs - Dual zippers - Lots of colors | [Check Price on AMAZON](https://amzn.to/4uHVLuL) | | [![Columbia Jitters III Rain Suit](https://www.rei.com/media/bbe34ded-ac5c-4ddb-a8e8-dabe13bd492d?size=2000)](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F244503%2Fcolumbia-critter-jitters-iii-rain-suit-toddlers%3Fcm_mmc%3Daff_AL-_-343845-_-402593-_-NA%26avad%3D402593_e3f4d6849) | [Columbia Jitters III Rain Suit](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F244503%2Fcolumbia-critter-jitters-iii-rain-suit-toddlers%3Fcm_mmc%3Daff_AL-_-343845-_-402593-_-NA%26avad%3D402593_e3f4d6849) | I had the Infant version of the Critter Jitters rain suit for my daughter and loved it. The toddler version is even better because has the “Outgrown” system. Just flip the suit inside out and snip the little threads to extend the legs and sleeves.  This will give you more use out of the rain suit, which IMO makes it worth paying the higher price for this suit. Columbia is a really good brand and the quality of this rain suit is great. Because the breathability is so good, you can use it as a wind suit too. There are also a lot of other cool features, like the Velcro leg cuffs, elastic waist for a better fit, diagonal zipper for easy in/out and adjustable hood.  The designs are also really cute too. **Features:** - Sizes: from 2 to 4 years - Outgrown system (extendable sleeves and pants) - Great breathability - Long, diagonal zipper - Elastic plus Velcro leg cuffs - Adjustable hood - Partial fleece insulated | [Check Price on REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F244503%2Fcolumbia-critter-jitters-iii-rain-suit-toddlers%3Fcm_mmc%3Daff_AL-_-343845-_-402593-_-NA%26avad%3D402593_e3f4d6849) | | [![JAN & JUL Toddler Fleece-Lined Rain Suit](https://c.media-amazon.com/images/I/615LIeyaaIL._AC_SX679_.jpg)](https://amzn.to/4tu1dAc) | [JAN & JUL Toddler Fleece-Lined Rain Suit](https://amzn.to/4tu1dAc) | Jan & JUL is a Canadian company. Their toddler rain suit is meant for serious wetness. The waterproof rating is 10,000mm and the breathability is 3000g/m2. However, the standout feature of the rain suit is the adjustable elasticized waist. You can adjust it so it fits your toddler well (which means it will fit over summer and winter clothes). The hood is also adjustable. Yes, the rain suit is a bit pricier — but it’s pretty versatile. You can get away with using it as a snow suit too if you bundle your kid up enough. **Features:** - Sizes: from 1 to 4 years - Adjustable hood - 10,000mm waterproof rating - 3000g mvp breathability - Fleece insulated - Dual zipper - Reinforced knees - Reflective strips | [Check Price on AMAZON](https://amzn.to/4tu1dAc) | | [![REI Co-op Rainier Rainsuit](https://www.rei.com/media/255f6d5e-3a38-44b7-9974-b25b50b6719c?size=2000)](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F227856%2Frei-co-op-rainier-rainsuit-infantstoddlers) | [REI Co-op Rainier Rainsuit](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F227856%2Frei-co-op-rainier-rainsuit-infantstoddlers) | The main thing that makes the REI Toddler Rain Suit great is the material: it is more breathable than other waterproof materials. This will make the suit a lot more comfortable to wear, especially in  hot, humid weather. I also like that it has dual zippers for easy on/off.  It also has an adjustable hood. Few kids’ rain suits have that feature. I wish it had stirup straps though instead of just elastic. The rain suit comes in two different colors and is well-made. It currently costs around $70, which is pricier than most other options here – hence why it isn’t listed as one of my top picks. **Features:** - Sizes: 2Y, 3Y, 4Y - 2.5 layer breathable material - 2 colors/designs - Dual zippers for easy on/off - Adjustable hood with brim - Reflective strips | [Check Price on REi](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F227856%2Frei-co-op-rainier-rainsuit-infantstoddlers) | | [![CeLaVi Two-Piece Rain Suit](https://c.media-amazon.com/images/I/61TUuqBXwyS._AC_SY741_.jpg)](https://amzn.to/4d2Xbdm) | [CeLaVi Two-Piece Rain Suit](https://amzn.to/4d2Xbdm) | While the material on this two-piece rain suit isn’t the most breathable, there is a lot to love. For starters, the pants actually have stirrups so they won’t ride up. The suit fits well because of the nice wrist and ankle cuffs.  Sizes 2T and 3-4 are bibs (the bigger sizes have elastic waists) and the suspenders are adjustable.  The hat is detachable. The rain suit is a good price, especially since you’ll get more use out of a two-piece suit than a one-piece suit.  The construction seems to be good quality and there aren’t any reports of the seams leaking. **Features:** - Sizes: from 2 to 9 years - 5,000mm waterproof rating - Bib-style pants with suspenders - Reflective strips - Detachable hood - Stirrup straps & elastic ankles - Elastic and Velcro wrist cuffs - Lots of colors | [Check Price on AMAZON](https://amzn.to/4d2Xbdm) | | [![Umkaumka Fleece-Lined Rain Pants](https://c.media-amazon.com/images/I/61jPSK+sfmL._AC_SX679_.jpg)](https://amzn.to/4dmGb0H) | [Umkaumka Fleece-Lined Rain Pants](https://amzn.to/4dmGb0H) | I absolutely love these toddler rain pants for playing in the mud, especially in spring or fall. They are fleece-lined, so you can let your kid sit in the sandbox or crawl around in the dirt even when it’s cold out.   The seams are sealed and don’t leak. However, these are cheap rain pants so I wouldn’t be surprised if they started to leak after a few seasons (hand-wash them to make them last longer). It’s also really nice that these rain pants have foot stirrups so they won’t slide up.  There are little snaps at the sides so you can adjust the fit – they won’t be as baggy as other toddler rain pants.  The plastic buckles on the suspenders are great for potty training because they come off quickly. **Features:** - Sized for 18 months - Fleece lined - Reflective strips - Plastic buckles on suspenders - Foot stirrups | [Check Price on AMAZON](https://amzn.to/4dmGb0H) | | [![Playshoes Rain Pants](https://c.media-amazon.com/images/I/61YAp9B0mOL._AC_SX569_.jpg)](https://amzn.to/3QVPI7r) | [Playshoes Rain Pants](https://amzn.to/3QVPI7r) | These are one of the most popular brands of rain pants for toddlers and kids.  They are cheap but hold up well enough for outdoor play.  A really nice feature about the rain pants is that they fit very well.  The suspender straps are adjustable, so you might even get a full year’s worth of use out of them for your toddler.  The back has elastic so they aren’t as baggy. There are also little snaps on the sides to get a better fit.  You’ll also like the foot stirrups so they won’t ride up on your child. **Features:** - Sizes: 9 months to 10 years - Reflective strips - Elastic in back and side snaps for better fit - Plastic buckles on suspenders - Foot stirrups - Lots of colors | [Check Price on AMAZON](https://amzn.to/3QVPI7r) | --- ## Why Your Toddler Needs a Rain Suit ![toddler playing in rain suit](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/rain-suits-not-rainy.jpg "rain suits not rainy - Mom Goes Camping") Obviously, toddler rain pants and suits are great when it’s raining out.  They keep your baby *dry*, which means your baby stays *warm*. But rain suits are also useful when it’s not raining too for these reasons: **Fewer Stains On Clothes** Toddlers will kneel and sit anywhere without thinking. This means lots of dirty, stained clothes.  When your toddler is in a rain suit though, she can get as messy as she wants. **Play in the mud:** I’m a big believer that kids should get dirty. It’s good for their immune system and loads of fun. When my toddler has her rain suit on, I can let her go explore giant mounds of mud, dig up worms, or jump in muddy puddles.  IMO, every little kid should have this experience. **Fewer holes in pants:** Toddlers fall a lot, which means lots of holes in their pants.  The best rain suits are made from durable materials that don’t tear easily. So, they actually protect your toddler’s clothes from holes.  I wouldn’t put on a rain suit just to keep my kid’s pants hole-free, but it is an added benefit. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/insulated-rain-suit-1.jpg "insulated rain suit - Mom Goes Camping")*A rain suit means I can let my daughter play in the mud without her getting wet cold or dirty* ## Choosing a Toddler Rain Suit Here are some things to look at and consider when choosing a rain suit for your toddler. ### One-Piece vs. Two-Piece Rain Suits One-piece rain suits are better at keeping water out. So, if your toddler jumps in a giant puddle, the water won’t enter from below. The downsides are that one-piece rain suits usually don’t fit as well. They tend to be very baggy around the waist on skinny toddlers. They can’t be adjusted, so you might only get one season out of the suit. I personally prefer two-piece rain suits for toddlers (but one-piece suits for babies). Two-piece rain suits offer more flexibility. When it’s a nice day but the ground is still muddy, I can just put on just the rain pants.  My toddler would overheat in a one-piece rain suit on a warm day.  Oh, and **two-piece suits are much better for potty training.** Your toddler will pee himself before you can get him out of a one-piece suit. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/baby-lidija-rain-pants-2.jpg "baby lidija rain pants 2 - Mom Goes Camping")*Learning to walk Notice how muddy the knees of her rain pants are* ### Insulated vs. Non-Insulated Rain Suits If you go outside a lot, then you’ll probably need *both* an insulated and non-insulated rain suit for your toddler.  If you only want to buy one, then choose a non-insulated suit.  You’ll just need to bundle your child in layers if it’s cold weather out. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/insulated-rain-suit.jpg "insulated rain suit - Mom Goes Camping")*This rain suit is lined with fleece so my girl stays warm even on chilly days* ### Other Features to Look for in Toddler Rain Suits - **Stirrups:** These keep the rain pants from riding up. - **Reinforced butt and knees:** The absolute best rain suits will have tougher material in these areas. - **Zipper length and location:** It’s a heck of a lot easier to get a squirming toddler into a rain suit with a long zipper. Preferably you have a full-length zipper that goes down to one leg, or get dual zippers. - **Elastic at wrists and ankles:** This will help the rain suit say in place and keep water out. - **Elastic hood:** This is also important so the rain hood doesn’t keep falling backwards. - **Adjustable hood:** These rain suits have a piece of Velcro on the hood that lets you adjust the size. - **Machine washable:** You’ll still want to hang it to dry to preserve the waterproof coating. - **Taped seams:** This means the seams are sealed so water doesn’t come through them. ## Some Practical Tips about Toddler Rain Suits ### **1. Don’t forget about rain boots!** You are also going to need waterproof boots for your baby or toddler if you want to play outside when it’s wet.  The obvious choice is Wellington boots.  But these can be a bit heavy for young toddlers who are just getting the hang of walking. is probably the best rain boots for toddlers who are just getting started with walking because they are lighter weight. They also are lined, so are good for cold weather. However, they are a bit pricy.  [These rain boots](https://amzn.to/3PzZBHq) are a decent budget option. ### 2. Rain Pants Should Go OVER the Boots It drives me crazy that, in most photos of toddlers in rain suits, the pants are tucked *into* the boots.  This is actually be a very bad idea: **Water will drip down the pants and into the boots.**  Water will also splash into the boots if your toddler jumps into a puddle. Instead, your toddler’s rain pants should go *over* the rain boots. Rain pants have a tendency to ride up though.  Velcro cuffs do a better job of staying in place but I prefer stirrup straps.  Note that the straps go outside the boots, so they do get gross and dirty. Alternatively, some rain boots have drawstring tops to keep water out.  These work well enough in mild rain but aren’t going to keep your toddler’s feet dry if she jumps in a puddle. ![](//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&l=am2&o=1&a=B01M2YK754) ### 3. You will get muddy too! Your toddler has been out running and jumping in the rain.  He/she now looks ridiculously cute all covered in mud. Now it’s time to go home.  But your toddler is too tired to walk by him/herself.  So, h*ow the heck do you get your toddler home without getting all muddy too?* If you are serious about letting your kid play in the mud, it might make sense to get some rain pants for yourself too (I’m assuming that you already have a rain jacket).  You can see my picks for the[ **best rain pants for women** ](https://momgoescamping.com/best-waterproof-womens-hiking-pants/)here. Or be prepared to hold your child at an arm’s length away as you put him/her into the stroller.  Oh, and hopefully the stroller is lined with something that can be wiped clean! **Also Read:** [How to dress for cold, rainy and muddy weather](https://momgoescamping.com/clothes-camping-rain-cold-mud/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** babies, rain, toddlers --- ### [Ultimate Guide to Hiking with a Baby](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-with-baby/) **Published:** December 21, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I have two daughters and took them both hiking from when they were small babies. These memories are some of the best I have but I’d be lying if I didn’t admit that hiking with a baby can also be grueling. Even at it’s most difficult moments though, it still beats staying at home.  So, here’s what you should know to make sure you all have a good experience. ## Understand Your Motivations There are a lot of [benefits ](https://www.outdoor-classrooms.com/2020/04/6-benefits-of-nature-exploration-for-infants-and-toddlers/)to hiking with a baby which range from stronger immunity to better sleep habits. But, while I’m all about doing activities which are good for your baby in the long-run, it’s also important to understand your current motivations. *Are you going hiking because you love the activity and can’t wait to get back on the trail?* *Do you feel pressured to resume your former active lifestyle, even if it seems scary or a major hassle at the moment?* *Or (as was my case), are you going stir-crazy sitting around at home and need a dose of nature for your own sanity?* Once you understand your real reasons for wanting to go hiking with your baby, you’ll be better able to plan your hikes — especially in regards to not overdoing it. ## How old should my baby be to go hiking?  So long babies are in an appropriate carrier and don’t have any health conditions preventing them from hiking, babies can go hiking at any age starting from birth.  The real issue is when *you* as a parent will feel ready to take your baby hiking. Becoming a parent is scary, overwhelming and exhausting.  It’s difficult enough to deal with all of this while at home, nevertheless on the trail. Do you really want to figure out things like latching issues or how to clean up diaper explosions when you are 5 miles away from civilization? On top of that, moms might still be recovering physically from having a baby. I couldn’t walk right (and definitely not hike!) for about a month because of an episiotomy with my first baby.  And an emergency C-section kept me from doing any serous hikes for a couple months with my second baby.  So take it slowly! Only do what you feel comfortable with. [![hiking with newborn](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/hiking-with-newborn-min.jpg "hiking with newborn-min - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/hiking-with-newborn-min.jpg)*Proud dad hiking with his very tiny newborn baby* ## Planning a Hike with a Baby No matter how skilled of a hiker you were before having a baby, chances are your hikes are going to look pretty different.  As you get more used to hiking with your baby, you can plan more intense trips.  But, at first, keep these things in mind: - **Go somewhere close:** You don’t want to deal with a long drive back home when you are tired and your baby may be cranky. - **Choose easy hikes:** Carrying a baby is tiring and can throw off your balance. Choose hikes with easy terrain. Preferably go to trails that you already know well. - **Keep the hike short:** At least in the beginning, don’t go on hikes which are more than a few miles long.  Even hiking a mile can take a very long time with a baby, especially if you have to stop frequently for feedings, changing or general crankiness. - **Go with friends:** Hiking with a baby is easier and safer if you go with friends. You might also check if there is a [Hike It Baby](https://hikeitbaby.com/) group in your area. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/breastfeeding-while-hiking-with-baby-min.jpg "breastfeeding while hiking with baby-min - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/breastfeeding-while-hiking-with-baby-min.jpg)*Hikes with a baby take 10x longer when youve got to stop to feed multiple times* ## What to Bring In addition to all the other [gear you should always bring hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-packing-list/), you’ll need some extra gear to hike with a baby.  This includes: - **Diaper changing pad and supplies:** Like extra diapers, wipes, hand sanitizer, and bags for packing them out. - **Sitting matt:** I brought a foam sleeping pad on hikes with my baby. This gave me a place to put her down so she could scratch out. It also gave me a place to sit while breastfeeding and doubled as a changing pad. \] - **Bottle feeding supplies:** If your baby is on formula, be sure to have filtered water with you.  Babies can drink cold formula but you might want to bring a backpacking stove to heat the water. - **Baby Food:** For babies on solids, I recommend bringing pouches of baby food instead of jars.  Be sure to bring a large bib! - **Extra Food for You:** You will probably eat much more than normal when hiking with a baby.  Be sure to bring lots of [high-energy snacks](https://momgoescamping.com/calorie-dense-healthy-backpacking-foods/). [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/foam-mat-for-baby-hiking.jpg "foam mat for baby hiking - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/foam-mat-for-baby-hiking.jpg)*I put my baby on this foam camping mat during breaks on our hike No toys are needed when shes easily entertained by a water bottle 🙂* **Want more info? Read this [List of Baby Hiking Gear to Bring](https://momgoescamping.com/gear-hiking-baby/)** ## Carrying Your Baby on the Hike  You have two options for carrying your baby on a hike: strollers and baby carriers.  Neither option is better than the other. It depends on the type of hike and what you prefer. In some cases, I even brought *both* on hikes*:* I’d push my baby in the stroller for as long as possible.  When the trail became inaccessible, I’d lock the stroller to a tree and continue with my baby in a carrier.  Obviously that only works on hikes where you come back the same way you came. **For more, read:** - [Strollers vs. Carriers for Hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/stroller-vs-hiking-carrier/) - [Soft or hard frame child carrier for hiking?](https://momgoescamping.com/soft-vs-frame-backpack-hiking-carrier/) - [Tips for Using Child Hiking Carriers](https://momgoescamping.com/tips-child-hiking-carriers/) - [Best Hiking Carriers for Petite Women](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-child-carrier-petite-women/) - [Best All-Terrain Strollers for Hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/all-terrain-strollers-hiking/) [![baby hiking in stroller](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/hiking-with-baby-in-stroller-min.jpg "hiking with baby in stroller-min - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/hiking-with-baby-in-stroller-min.jpg)*IMO a stroller beats a carrier when hiking in hot weather* ## Safety Hiking with a baby is generally very safe.  But, if the hike isn’t planned well, there are a lot of things which can go wrong.  I’m not trying to dissuade you from hiking with your baby but rather make sure you are prepared so you can prevent any disasters from happening. **To keep your baby (and yourself) safe while hiking, be sure to…** ### Use Trekking Poles  If you are carrying your baby in a hiking carrier, absolutely use trekking poles.  They will improve your balance, thus reducing your likelihood of fall injuries.  Since trekking poles also help distribute the load throughout your body, they spare your back from strain too. ### Bring a First Aid Kit You should always have this whether you are hiking with a baby or not.  This is what’s in [my hiking first aid kit](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-first-aid-kit-checklist/).  When my kids were babies, I also added little bottles of saline solution.  It comes in handy for cleaning dirt out of their eyes. ### Have an Exit Plan This also applies to all hikes, not just ones with your baby.  But, once you have a baby with you, your exit plan might need to be more detailed.  For example, when hiking far from home, I make sure I know where the nearest clinics are in case we need urgent medical help. ### Plan for Insects and Wild Animals In most places, the biggest danger to your baby while hiking is going to be ticks. I’ve had Lyme disease and it is not fun! Mosquitoes are also an annoying problem which can leave your baby cranky from itchiness.  Depending on where you go, there might be other serious threats like snakes, bears, scorpions and venomous spiders. - **Ticks:** Be sure to bring a [tick removal tool for humans](https://momgoescamping.com/tick-removal-tools-humans/) with you. - **Mosquitoes:** Read about [baby-safe mosquito repellent](https://momgoescamping.com/best-baby-safe-mosquito-repellents-camping/) - **Avoid scented items:** A lot of baby items have perfumes which can attract insects like bees.  Try to bring unscented ones only when hiking. - **Bears:** Talk to the park rangers and ask if there’s anything you should know before hiking in bear country with a baby.  Absolutely carry bear spray and keep it accessible! Read what to do [if you see a bear](https://momgoescamping.com/bear-safety/). - **Snakes:** Be very careful about putting your baby down for rests or diaper changes. I always check for snakes in the area first. Read what to do [if you see a snake](https://momgoescamping.com/what-to-do-if-you-see-a-snake/). ### Watch Out for Choking Hazards Like most babies, my daughter went through a phase where she put everything in her mouth.  This made hiking somewhat difficult because I had to worry about her grabbing leaves, sticks, rocks, etc. and possible choking on them. During this phase, I mostly kept her in the stroller on hikes.  I also brought a picnic blanket with us instead of our normal sleeping pad: If I put her in the middle of the blanket, she wasn’t able to reach anything and put it in her mouth. ## Dressing Your Baby for Hiking As a general rule, your baby should dress like you when going on hikes. This means putting your baby in breathable layers which provide protection against the elements – whether those elements are sun, cold, wind or rain. However, there is one key difference: *your baby isn’t walking like you are and will get cold faster.*  That generally means your baby will need an extra layer than you do. **For more info, read:** - [Hiking with a baby in cold weather](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-baby-toddler-cold/) - [Best Baby Rain Suits](https://momgoescamping.com/best-rain-suits-toddlers/) ## Leave No Trace Make sure you are still following Leave No Trace when hiking with your baby.  The biggest issue will be diapers: *you will need to pack them out*.  You’ll also need to pack out baby wipes as these usually cannot be put in latrines or composting toilets. Be sure you have a bag for trash — preferably one that seals or an odor-proof bag like this — for carrying the diapers out. Note that dirty diapers can attract wild animals.  So, even if there are trash bins on the trail or at the trailhead, you still might need to pack the diapers out (check with the park rangers). Otherwise animals might get into the trash and spread gross diaper all over the place. **Do you go hiking with your baby? Let us know any tips in the comments section below.** --- Image credits: “[Our first hiking together: David and Emb](https://www.flickr.com/photos/daveynin/50326590002/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [daveynin](https://www.flickr.com/people/daveynin/) “[Vue sur la rivière Columbia, Oregon](https://www.flickr.com/photos/jefren/250317333/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [jefren](https://www.flickr.com/people/jefren/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking **Tags:** babies --- ### [Easy Backpacking Mashed Potatoes, Sausage and Mushrooms Recipe](https://momgoescamping.com/easy-backpacking-mashed-potatoes-recipe/) **Published:** August 16, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Instant mashed potatoes are one of my go-to backpacking foods.  Not only can you find them in pretty much every supermarket for dirt cheap, they don’t even need to be cooked — you can make them with the [cold-soak method](https://momgoescamping.com/cold-soak-backpacking-meals/).  Obviously eating plain mashed potatoes when backpacking would be boring.  Here’s one recipe for sprucing them up. You can find [more easy backpacking meal ideas from supermarket foods](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-supermarket-foods/) here. **And did you know I wrote a book?** It’s got over 50 calorie-dense, healthy backpacking dehydrator recipes, plus tons of info on planning backpacking meals. **[Get it here for 50% off](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmetasheck50off)!** [![dehydrator backpacking recipes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/book-with-tablet.png "book with tablet - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/book-with-tablet.png) ## Ingredients: - 60g instant mashed potato flakes (about 210 calories) - 2 shelf-stable sausages or 60g/2oz of jerky (about 260 calories) - 1 Tbsp. dried mushroom powder (only about 10 calories) – powdered mushrooms rehydrate easier than whole pieces! - Spices, herbs, salt - Handful of foraged greens (too few calories to bother calculating) - 1 Tbsp. olive oil (120 calories) [![backpacking mashed potatoes gourmet recipe](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/ingredients.jpg "ingredients - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/ingredients.jpg) ## **Calories/Weight:** - **Calories: approx. 600** - **Weight: approx. 140g/4.9oz** ## Instructions 1. At home, put the instant potato flakes in a baggie.  Add any herbs and spices you want to the flakes.  I added Italian seasoning. 2. On the trail: Put your greens (I like hogweed but stinging nettles are also easy to find) and dried mushrooms into 1 cup/240ml of water.  If using jerky, put it in the water too. 3. Bring the water to a boil. 4. Once boiling, turn off stove.  Stir in instant potato flakes.  If you used sausage instead of jerky, add it now. 5. Add salt and olive oil. 6. Enjoy! [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/cooking.jpg "cooking - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/cooking.jpg) [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/backpacking-mashed-potatoes-recipe.jpg "backpacking mashed potatoes recipe - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/backpacking-mashed-potatoes-recipe.jpg) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Food **Tags:** recipe --- ### [Ultimate SteriPEN Review: Options, Instructions, and How It Compares to Other Purifiers](https://momgoescamping.com/steripen-review/) **Published:** December 16, 2019 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Whether backpacking in the wilderness or in developing countries, a good water purifier is one of the best gear to bring.  Having a water purifier means that you don’t ever have to buy bottled water (and contribute to plastic waste).  Nor do you have to worry about lugging heavy bottles of water up mountains when you can just drink directly from streams.  There are a lot of different purifiers, but SteriPEN is one of the best options. In this SteriPEN review, I’ll go over everything you need to know about SteriPEN including how it works, how to use SteriPEN, the different types of SteriPEN, and some good alternatives to SteriPEN. ## What Is SteriPEN? ![SteriPEN classic purifying water with UV light](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/steripen-classic.jpg "steripen classic - Mom Goes Camping") SteriPEN is a type of water purifier that uses ultraviolet (UV) light to deactivate harmful pathogens in water.  The keyword here is *deactivate.* Unlike water filters, the SteriPEN doesn’t actually remove the pathogens.  You can [buy the SteriPEN here](https://amzn.to/2rQDJwz). Instead the UV light damages the DNA of the pathogens and makes it impossible for them to reproduce.  If the pathogen cannot reproduce, it cannot cause infection. Fun fact: UV light can even kill bacteria and viruses in the air.  One theory as to why we get sick more in winter is because there isn’t as much UV light from the sun to kill airborne pathogens. ([1](https://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,5753,-14725,00.html), [2](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-does-ultraviolet-ligh/), [3](https://www.upi.com/Science_News/2018/02/09/UV-light-can-kill-airborne-flu-virus-study-finds/3081518201355/), [4](https://www.uswatersystems.com/ultraviolet-disinfection-faq)) \[table id=17 /\] ## What Does SteriPEN Treat? SteriPEN uses a UV intensity of 254nm, which is very effective at treating pathogens in water.  When used correctly, it will treat 99.9% of the following pathogens: - **Bacteria:** Including Campylobacter, E. Coli, Salmonella, and Shigella - **Protozoa:** Including Giardia and Cryptosporidium - **Viruses:** Including rotovirus and hepatitis ### SteriPEN Does NOT Treat: - **Chemicals or toxins:** Such as fertilizers, pesticides, or chemical runoff. - **Larger organisms:** Such as tapeworm eggs. - **Cloudy water:** The UV light won’t be able to get to the pathogens if the water is murky. ### **What does this mean for real-life use?** #### Travel in Undeveloped Countries: You can use SteriPEN on tap water in underdeveloped countries.  However, it’s not going to be completely effective if the water might be contaminated by chemicals, such as near agricultural or mining areas. You don’t ever want to drink chemicals, but a few days’ worth of exposure probably isn’t going to give you cancer.  On the plus side, chemicals don’t cause traveler’s diarrhea like bacteria, protozoa, and viruses do, so using SteriPEN will spare you that terrible ordeal! #### Backcountry Water: With backcountry water, things get a bit more complex.  It used to be that you could just use a water filter in the backcountry.  However, viruses are becoming more common in backcountry water because of overcrowding and people going to the bathroom near water sources (follow Leave No Trace, people!!!). SteriPEN will purify bacteria, parasites, and viruses, but it won’t remove those parasites like tapeworm eggs.  So, you wouldn’t want to rely on SteriPEN alone when drinking from streams, lakes, rivers, or private wells.  You’ll have to get a filter which can remove viruses too (which has it’s drawbacks) or use SteriPEN *in addition to* a water filter. ## How to Use SteriPEN ![steripen instructions](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/steripen-adventurer.jpg "steripen adventurer - Mom Goes Camping") Using SteriPEN is really simple.  However, it’s really important that you use it correctly.  Otherwise the UV light won’t be able to reach all the pathogens in the water. 1. **Only use on clear water:** Some of the SteriPEN products can be used with cloudy water, but not anything very dark. You need the water to be like a light lemonade.  If the water is murky, then you’ll need to pre-filter it. 2. **Determine how much water you are purifying:** Either ½ or 1 liter of water. 3. **Remove lamp cover and click:** Use 1 click for ½ liter and 2 clicks for 1 liter of water. 4. **Put the lamp into the water:** Depending on the model you have, a green light might flash after you click. Put the lamp wand into the water while it is flashing.  Once the lamp detects water, it will emit UV light. 5. **Stir until the lamp turns off:** It’s important that you stir. This agitates the water and ensures all pathogens make it into the UV light.  When the lamp turns off, you are done.  It takes 48 seconds to purify ½ liter of water and 90 seconds for one liter. **Notes:** 1. **It’s really important that you agitate the water while using the SteriPEN.** One independent [study](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S147789391500174X) found that SteriPEN only treated 94.98% of spores when the water wasn’t agitated. 2. **The pre-filter sold by SteriPEN is only 40 microns.** That’s enough to remove sediment and make the water look clear so it can be treated by the SteriPEN UV light. However, it is not small enough to remove tapeworm eggs and other parasite eggs.  You can see a list of parasite egg sizes [here](https://www.cdc.gov/dpdx/diagnosticprocedures/stool/morphcomp.html). Play it safe: I’d recommend using a pre-filter with an absolute rating of at most 1 micron. ### Isn’t UV Light Bad for Humans? Yes, UV light can be very dangerous for humans.  However, SteriPEN is usually used in water bottles.  The plastic, glass, or metal will block the UV light.   If you are using the SteriPEN in a large pot though, some of the UV light could get to your eyes and cause damage. One cool thing is that SteriPEN only turns on if it detects water.  This feature makes it impossible for you to accidentally blast yourself with UV light. ## SteriPEN Comparison There are several versions of SteriPEN out.  In my opinion, the SteriPEN Ultra ([get it here](https://amzn.to/2rQDJwz)) is the best version because it can be recharged via USB. I typically bring a [lightweight power bank](https://momgoescamping.com/best-backpacking-power-banks/) on my backpacking trips, which is enough to recharge my devices, headlamps, and a SteriPEN.  On longer trips, you can bring a [portable solar panel](https://momgoescamping.com/best-portable-solar-chargers/). \[table id=16 /\] ## The Bottom Line? The SteriPEN is a great way to treat unsafe tap water when traveling abroad. However, it has a lot of drawbacks for wilderness backpacking – particularly that it doesn’t work on murky water, won’t remove sediment or worm eggs, and relies on batteries. If you want to use SteriPEN in the backcountry, I’d recommend using it along with a cheap filter like the [Sawyer Mini](https://amzn.to/2LZjuDD).  The filter takes care of sediment and large parasites.  The SteriPEN then destroys viruses. If you’d rather only use one purifier, then get yourself the [MSR Guardian filter](https://amzn.to/2M0vFAf). It’s expensive but lasts almost forever and handles everything except chemicals. --- ###### Image credits: “[Sanitizing water with my Steripen. I als](https://www.flickr.com/photos/ryochijiiwa/14321546852/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [ryochiji](https://www.flickr.com/people/ryochijiiwa/) “[Steripen](https://www.flickr.com/photos/atbaker/5956905492/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [AlphaTangoBravo / Adam Baker](https://www.flickr.com/people/atbaker/) “[IMG\_6762](https://www.flickr.com/photos/flickbergers/31260030612/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Tim Berger](https://www.flickr.com/people/flickbergers/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** Sawyer Mini, water filter, water purifier --- ### [Tips for Hiking with a Baby or Toddler in Cold Weather](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-baby-toddler-cold/) **Published:** November 21, 2019 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Yes, you can still go hiking with your baby when the weather gets cold or even starts snowing.  However, I’d be lying if I didn’t admit that it’s a lot harder.  If you don’t plan for it and dress properly, it can be a miserable or even dangerous experience.  Here’s how to have a good winter hike with your baby. ## Limit Hikes to a Max of 2 Hours As one of my mom friends pointed out, your baby hasn’t figured out how to do things like blow into his hands to warm up his face.  So, while *you* might not be cold, your baby can get uncomfortable quickly. To prevent frostbite and grumpiness, try to limit hikes to a max of 2 hours when it is below freezing temperatures.  This is enough time to enjoy nature without risking hypothermia.  If things go well, you can gradually increase your time outdoors. Remember that it takes a lot longer to hike when it is snowy or slippery ground.  Use this method to [**calculate how long it will take to complete a hike**](https://momgoescamping.com/how-long-complete-hike/). ## What to Pack Whenever you go hiking, you should always prepare for the worst. No matter how experienced of a hiker you are, you can still get injured or lost.  Pack survival gear in case you end up spending the night! That means carrying gear like extra water, a firestarter, a mini first aid kit, and headlamp (see the [**hiking packing list**](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-packing-list/) here). When hiking with babies or toddles in winter though, you’ll need some specific extra gear.  Pack: ### Insulated Foam Pad ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/sitting-pad-baby-cold-weather.jpg "sitting pad baby cold weather - Mom Goes Camping")*Baby sitting on an insulated pad to stay warm during a rest at the summit* There are two reasons to bring one of these.  First, it serves as a diaper changing pad.  You don’t want to put your baby down on the cold or snowy ground to change a diaper! Secondly, the pads are great for when you want to take a break from carrying your baby.  You can put her down on the pad to sit and play a bit while you rest. Make sure the pad has an R-value of at least 2.5.  This level of insulation will keep the cold ground from sucking the heat out of her body. The [Therm-a-Rest Z-Lite SOL](https://amzn.to/2XAJ1aT) is a good option (R-value 2.6). It’s affordable, easy to pack, and comes in various sizes. [![Therm-a-Rest Z Lite SOL](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/z-lite-SOL.jpg "z lite SOL - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/z-lite-SOL.jpg) ### Extra Clothes for Your Baby If your baby gets wet while hiking in cold weather (diaper explosions, milk leaking down neck…), it can be very dangerous.  Wetness causes heat loss from evaporative cooling.  That can quickly lead to hypothermia, even if it isn’t that cold out. It really isn’t practical to carry an extra outer layer for your baby.  However, you absolutely should carry an extra base and mid layer.  Also carry extra socks and booties. ### Hot Water in an Insulated Bottle Having a hot drink will do wonders for warming you and your baby up in cold weather.  You’ll probably need two bottles: one with drinks for you and another with hot water for your baby (can also be used for mixing formula). When it is below zero, do not use a metal bottle! It will freeze shut, or your lips will get stuck to it!  Instead, check out these [winter water bottles and insulators](https://momgoescamping.com/water-bottles-insulators-winter/). ### Trekking Poles I always use trekking poles when hiking with my body.  I’ve got weak knee joints and the poles make me much more stable when going down hills with a heavy baby on my back.   There are numerous other [benefits to using trekking poles](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-poles-pros-cons/) too. When hiking with a baby in cold weather, it’s even more important to use poles.  The ground can be very hard and slippery.  If it’s icy out, then absolutely put tips on your poles for ice! ### Snot Rags In cold weather, your baby’s nose will probably start running.  Tie a rag around your pack or carrier that can be used for wiping away snot.  Otherwise your baby will get really gross.  A rag beats having to use a zillion tissues. \*Tip: Put a bit of Vaseline under your baby’s nose before heading out.  This will prevent her nose from getting red from repeated wiping. ## Changing Diapers in Cold Weather You should always change your baby’s diaper in the car before you head out on your hike.  If the diaper just gets wet with pee, I won’t change it until we get back.  But poo absolutely has to be changed.  If I wait too long, the poo can explode out of the diaper and then I *really* have a problem! Remember how I said to bring an insulated pad?  This will make your life much easier when doing diaper changes outdoors in the cold.  Avoid putting your baby on the cold ground at all costs.  If you didn’t bring an insulated pad, you could try doing the change on the carrier or even your jacket. There’s not too much you can do to keep your baby’s butt warm while changing the diaper.  Just: - Get all the diaper supplies ready before you undress your baby - Change as quickly as possible - Try to choose a spot away from wind - Think about diaper changes when choosing how to dress your baby ## Dressing Your Baby for Cold-Weather Hiking Obviously, you want to dress your baby in layers of clothing.  Preferably, you choose materials made out of Merino wool.  This is by far the warmest option while still being breathable.  If you can’t afford Merino (who wants to pay a fortune for baby long johns only to outgrow them in a month?), then fleece is a good alternative. You can also get away with synthetic materials when hiking in cold weather.  But **never dress your baby in cotton**! It absorbs sweat and will not dry, so your baby risks ending up very wet and cold. ### Basic Layers for Babies and Toddlers #### **Layer 1: Base** The main purpose of this layer is to wick moisture away from the body.  So, it must be a material like wool or synthetic. The base layer should fit snugly and cover all skin on the torso, arms and legs.  I prefer two-piece base layers (long johns and a shirt) instead of a onesie because it makes diaper changes easier. Merino wool jammies make a great base layer and can also be used everyday for sleeping in. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/merino-base-layer.jpg "merino base layer - Mom Goes Camping") *Simply Merino wool pajama set, [available here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08H3GTNXC/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08H3GTNXC&linkId=34c23a31dbc2904b6b313fef4d239353)* #### **Layer 2: Mid** The purpose of the mid layer is to trap heat against the body. The mid layer should not be too tight or it won’t have enough air space to trap heat. Fleece or wool pants and a sweater work great for this layer.  If it’s really cold, add a vest or extra mid layer. #### **Layer 3: Outer Shell** This is the layer that gets exposed to the elements.  It should be water-resistant and windproof. I prefer a one-piece snow suit because you can unzip it to do diaper changes. You can use bib-snow pants and a jacket, but the pants have to be completely removed when changing diapers. Your baby will also need a warm hat.  Their necks can get really cold too, so it’s recommended to use a buff or scarf. ### Keeping Hands and Feet Warm [![baby eating snow during hike](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/eating-snow.jpg "eating snow - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/eating-snow.jpg) Hands and feet will get cold the fastest, especially since babies will do things like grab snow (and promptly eat it). You’ll want to follow the same layering principle as above. - Hands should have a thinner lining mitten with a thicker fleece layer over it. Some good baby mittens have an insulating inner with waterproof shell.  You’ll still want a thin liner with these though. - Feet should be covered with a thin liner sock. If using nylon stockings as your child’s base layer, then the feet are already covered.  On top of this goes wool or fleece booties, and those are then covered with a waterproof shell or snow boot. Make sure that there aren’t any gaps which expose ankles or wrists to the cold.  A quickly solution to this is to make leg/wrist warmers by cutting old socks.  Your baby will look like it’s from the 80s, but will be warm. ### Don’t Overdress Your Baby As a general rule, **your baby only needs one more layer than you do**.  However, you will be hiking and probably sweating whereas your baby will be sitting passively.  So, if it’s very cold, your baby might need two more layers than you. But avoid the urge to overdress your baby out of fear she’s cold.  Overdressing just means she will sweat, which means she’ll get cold.  There’s not much you can do once your baby is all sweaty other than change her base and mid completely. ### How to Tell if Your Baby is Cold Don’t rely on fingers, toes, or the core to see if your baby is cold.  Extremities feel cold quickly.  Instead, feel the back of the neck. If the neck is cold, then your baby’s core is also going to be cold. ### Carrying Style Affects How You Dress Your Baby You’ll need to dress your baby a bit differently depending on how you are carrying her. #### Back Carrier Your baby gets almost no body heat from you while in a back carrier. To make sure the core stays warm, put a vest over the mid layer.  This will keep her warm without her overheating.  Dangling legs tend to get cold faster than arms, so use leg warmers. #### Front Carriers, Facing Towards You In this position, your baby will get a lot of heat from your body.  You will want to wear the baby under your shell (put on the carrier and then your shell).  Your baby can probably skip a jacket completely in this position.  Since the legs dangle away from your body, she’ll still need warm pants. If you have a really large jacket or a “Make my belly fit” jacket adapter, then you can zip your jacket around both you and the baby.  In this case, your baby doesn’t need a jacket at all. #### Front Carrier, Facing Outwards In this position, your baby’s arms and legs don’t get much of your body heat.  You’ll need to dress your baby the same as if she’s in a back carrier – thouh you can probably skip the vest. Put the carrier on under your shell jacket and leave it unzipped. ### Tips - **Cut the toes off your old wool socks to make DIY leg warmers.** - **Choose a hat with ties so it stays on!** - **Don’t put hand warmers right against baby’s skin. Put them between layers of clothing.** - **With toddlers, stop every 45 minutes and let them walk around. This will increase circulation and warm up their extremities.** ## Breastfeeding in the Cold ![breastfeeding on winter hike in snow](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/breastfeeding-winter.jpg "breastfeeding winter - Mom Goes Camping") If you are still breastfeeding your baby, it means that you don’t have to worry about carrying formula on the hike… But you also have to figure out how to feed your baby without freezing your torso. This is where a breastfeeding shirt really helps.  Wear it as your base layer and at least your stomach won’t be completely exposed to the cold. Another option is to wear a very low-neck for your core. Just unzip your shell and mid-layer so you can access your boobs from above.  Then your core stays completely covered. **Do you have any winter hiking tips to add to this? How does your baby handle the cold? Let us know in the comments section below.** --- ###### Image credits: “[Good place for a snack](https://www.flickr.com/photos/jennyleesilver/3209145270/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Jenny Lee Silver](https://www.flickr.com/people/jennyleesilver/) [Lyra sitting in the snow](https://www.flickr.com/photos/jennyleesilver/3209146370/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Jenny Lee Silver](https://www.flickr.com/people/jennyleesilver/) “[Arttu in Vaherma](https://www.flickr.com/photos/roxeteer/2522932449/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [roxeteer](https://www.flickr.com/people/roxeteer/) “[Eat it of course](https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottsm/16021424514/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Scott SM](https://www.flickr.com/people/scottsm/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking **Tags:** cold, fall, family, kids, spring, weather --- ### [Mission Mountain S4 Table Review](https://momgoescamping.com/mission-mountain-s4-table-review/) **Published:** April 21, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Mission Mountain is a new brand which makes lightweight camping furniture and gear.  They recently sent me their camping table to try out (free gear is one of the perks of my job).   Here’s what I think of it. ## Quick Verdict: The Mission Mountain S4 is a roll-top camping table with adjustable height legs.  It is really well made, fairly lightweight and very packable. Because of the low height, it is best used as a camp coffee table and not for cooking or eating.  It’s a very sturdy table but the tradeoff is that there are several pieces to put together. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/me-in-chair-and-table-2.jpg "me in chair and table 2 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/me-in-chair-and-table-2.jpg)*The S4 table at the higher leg setting* ## Specs: - **Heights:** 16.5in/20.8in - **Table Top Size:** 23.6×35” - **Packed Size:** 26x 9.8x 4.7″ - **Total Weight:** 9.5lbs - **Weight Limit:** 66lbs - **Materials:** Aluminum and steel - [**Buy Here**](https://www.missionmountain.us/) ## Assembly [![Mission Mountain S4 camp table parts](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/camping-table-unboxing.jpg "camping table unboxing - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/camping-table-unboxing.jpg) The Mission Mountain S4 table consists of 8 pieces which need to be put together.  They are: - **4 legs** - **3 frame pieces** - **1 tabletop** Putting the table together is really simple and easy.   Two of the frame pieces have poles (attached with cord) which you pop in place.  Those frame pieces get attached together with a bar.  This creates an “H-style” frame. [![Mission Mountain S4 table assembly instructions](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/table-setup-instructions.jpg "table setup instructions - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/table-setup-instructions.jpg) [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/camp-table-partially-set-up.jpg "camp table partially set up - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/camp-table-partially-set-up.jpg)*S4 table before putting the roll top on* It takes just 2-3 minutes to assemble or disassemble the Mission Mountain table.  If you are used to folding camp tables which come in one piece, putting together all of these pieces might be annoying. The leg height is easy to adjust: just push the silver buttons and slide the legs to the desired height.  A very nice design feature is that there are guidelines in the legs, so it’s easy to get the button in the right spot. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/table-leg.jpg "table leg - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/table-leg.jpg)*Guidelines make it easy to line up the button and the holes* ## Sturdiness One of the reasons why the Mission Mountain has so many pieces is because of its H-style frame. The frame shape means the legs are angled outwards, which is much more stable than vertical legs.  I wasn’t able to find any other camping table with this type of frame.  Most use X frames or have vertical legs which snap in place, neither of which are very stable. Mission Mountain says that the S4 table can hold 66lbs. I had a 22lb power station on the edge of the table and it didn’t wobble or tilt over.   It held the power station plus my laptop while I worked outside without a problem. ![](https://ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&language=en_US&l=li3&o=1&a=B00JGJGQ9A) ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/helinox-table-lightweight.jpg "helinox table lightweight - Mom Goes Camping")The [Helinox table](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dhelinox%2Btable%26pagesize%3D90) frame is not nearly as strong as the H frame used by Mission Mountain ## Packability Compared to most other camp tables, the Mission Mountain table is very compact.  This is because of the roll-top design and the frame which disassembles.  I personally find it easier to pack in my tiny car than folding tables, which fold down into a massive rectangle. One weird thing I love about the Mission Mountain table is that it’s easy to get back in the bag.  If you’ve dealt with poorly-designed camp furniture, then you know why this is such a nice feature. 🙂 The bag actually has two zipper compartments: one compartment holds the tabletop and the other holds the frame parts.  This keeps the parts organized so the bag doesn’t end up all lumpy. ## Weight Mission Mountain lists the table as weighing 9.4lbs.  I weighed it and it came in at 9.5lbs, so not far off.  Either way, the Mission Mountain table is lightweight for a camping table. But it is definitely not ultralight.  Forget about taking this backpacking.  I’m not sure I’d want to take it to a walk-in campsite either.   However, it’s light enough to carry for shorter distances.  The compact shape also makes it easier to carry. ## Important: This is a LOW Camping Table! Let’s me be clear: the Mission Mountain table is LOW.  There are two height settings but the highest is only 20.8 inches.   The low setting is just 16.5 inches. Mission Mountain advertises their table as having a “unique H-braces, allowing plenty of room for knees and legs.” There definitely is not “plenty” of room.  I’m very short and petite, so was able to get my knees underneath the table while on a chair with a low seat height.  If your camp chair has a standard height, your knees won’t fit underneath.  Even on a low chair, a larger person will probably bang their knees on the tabletop. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/table-height.jpg "table height - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/table-height.jpg)*My knees barely fit under the table and the seat height of this chair is just 125  Im working outside with a [power station and solar setup](https://momgoescamping.com/power-stations-worth-it-camping/) 😀* **Because of this low height, the Mission Mountain table is best used as a coffee table for holding your drinks while lounging next to the campfire.** However, it could also work as a dining table if you don’t mind kneeling on the ground to eat.  My family usually sits on pads while holding our bowls.  So kneeling in front of this table is actually a big upgrade for us 🙂 ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [17 Tips for Hiking with Little Kids (As Shared by Outdoorsy Parents)](https://momgoescamping.com/tips-hiking-little-kids/) **Published:** March 27, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** As a mom of two, I can tell you that hiking with toddlers or really little kids isn’t always easy. There are a lot of hurdles to overcome and your hikes are probably going to be a lot different than in your pre-parent days. But hiking with little kids is also a wonderful experience. So don’t let the fear that it will be too “tough” stop you from going hiking with your kids.  Instead, here are some tips I’ve picked up along the way (as well as some tips I got from other outdoorsy parents) to make hiking with little kids easier and fun. ## 1. Kids Don’t Care about Scenery or Logging Miles If you used to doing long, tough hikes in your pre-parenting life, then adjusting to hiking with a little kid can be tough. *Really* tough. Kids simply don’t care about your goals.  They don’t care about scenery or logging miles. And they certainly don’t understand the concept of exercise, connecting with nature, or pushing oneself! **You’ll need to redefine what hiking means to you if you want to enjoy it with little kids.** Honestly, I’m not sure most people would consider what I do with my girls as “hiking.” It’s more akin to wandering around in nature and looking at bugs and plants. (Don’t worry: You can still leave the kids at home sometimes to go on tough hikes with your friends!) ## 2. Know Your Kid’s Physical Limits Each kid is different, and you’ve got to respect that before taking your kid into the wild on a hiking trip.  Just because your friend Jane has a 5-year old who can hike 5 miles, it doesn’t mean that your kid is going to be able to. That’s fine. **Read: [How Far Can Kids Hike?](https://momgoescamping.com/how-far-can-kids-hike/)** ## 3. Be Prepared for the Mental Hurdles With little kids, their moods can change quickly.  One moment they might be happily running down the trail. The next moment they are having a full-blown tantrum and refusing to walk another step. While hiking with kids does get easier over time, there will still be mental hurdles to overcome on each hike. As a parent, dealing with these mental hurdles can be really draining.  They can put you in a bad mood and ruin the entire hike. If I catch myself getting so pissed off that I’m about to shout at my daughters (which obviously won’t help their mood!), I just step aside for a minute to collect myself.  Often, this time is enough for my girls to calm down on their own and decide to keep hiking. ## 4. Leave LOTS of Time for Exploring Nature Little kids are fascinated by everything.  On one hike with my daughter when she was two-years old, she literally poked a stick into a muddy puddle for 30 minutes.  She would have stayed longer if I hadn’t dragged her off. You’ll need to find the right balance of exploring time and hiking time. Remember, the point is for your child to interact with nature and have fun. So leave lots of time for things like looking under rocks, peeking into holes in trees and watching bugs. [![very young kid hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/532412459_9b960e7e7d_z.jpg "very young kid hiking - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/532412459_9b960e7e7d_z.jpg)Be prepared for your toddler to stop every 10 feet to look at a rock ## 5. Steep Is Your Enemy My friend Callie took her three year old on a steep hike in Montana which she knew would be challenging, but she really wanted to get to the lake at the end. Because the trail was so steep (and thus narrow), it was really hard to find places to take breaks.  It was even difficult to find potty spots. And motivating her daughter to hike on the steep trails was a huge mental hurdle. ## 6. It’s Okay to Call It Quits Don’t be afraid to bail if the hike is too difficult, the weather has gotten bad, or simply because no one is having fun. **There’s no shame in turning back.** You don’t want to turn your child off of hiking forever because you forced them on a miserable hike. ## 7. Bring a Stroller or Carrier [![hiking carrier for little kids](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/trekking-poles-for-hiking-carrier.jpg "trekking poles for hiking carrier - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/trekking-poles-for-hiking-carrier.jpg) You WILL end up carrying your child if you head off on a long hike without a stroller or carrier! While every kid is different, it wasn’t until my older daughter was almost 4 that she was able to complete a hike on her own (and even those hikes weren’t very far). **Read:** - **[Stroller vs. hiking carrier](https://momgoescamping.com/stroller-vs-hiking-carrier/)** - [**Child Hiking Carriers for Petite Women**](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-child-carrier-petite-women/) - **[Best Off-Road Hiking Strollers](https://momgoescamping.com/all-terrain-strollers-hiking/)** - [**How to Carry Bigger Kids Hiking**](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-carriers-bigger-kids/) ## 8. Find Ways to Motivate the Kids to Hike Resist the temptation to put your kid in the carrier or stroller the moment they start whining that they are “tired.”  You’ll end up physically exhausted.  Plus, you want to “train” them to be good hikers in the future. There are lots of things you can do to motivate them, such using stickers or doing treasure hunts.  See these [**tricks for motivating little kids to hike**](https://momgoescamping.com/motivate-little-kids-hike/). ## 9. Don’t Worry about Looking Foolish To make hiking with your little kids more fun, pretend that you are animals out on an adventure.  Sing silly songs.  Examine animal poop… Don’t worry about what other hikers will think of you. Just have fun with your kids. ## 10. Pack with Safety in Mind Whether you are with or without kids, you should *always* bring basic emergency supplies when hiking. This includes extra water and food, a flashlight, and a waterproof jacket.  Bad things can and do happen on hikes! Kids absolutely need a whistle to wear when hiking in case they get lost.  Explain that the whistle isn’t a toy – they should *only blow it if they get lost.* **Read:** - **[Checklist of Gear to Bring Hiking with Kids](https://momgoescamping.com/gear-hiking-with-kids/)** - [**Teach Your Kids What to Do if Lost When Hiking**](https://momgoescamping.com/kids-getting-lost-hiking/) ## 11. Also Pack for Peace of Mind and Enjoyment In my pre-parenthood days, I would pack ultralight and minimal for hikes.  It’s hard to let go of this mentality – but necessary if you want to enjoy hiking with really little kids. For example, I realized that I’m happy to carry more gear if it will give me peace of mind.  Such as packing two complete changes of clothes for my toddler.  I like knowing that they are there in case she pees all over herself. There also some “luxury” hiking items we bring that I would never bring hiking without the kids.  Thse items make the hike more enjoyable.  For example, sitting pads or waterproof picnic blankets are awesome because you’ll have a dry place to lie down during breaks. ## 12. Following Leave No Trace Following the principles of Leave No Trace can be tricky with little kids. They definitely don’t give you much warning before having to poo, so you won’t have time to dig a cathole to bury the waste. You’ll have to do it after the fact, which can be a big pain. Your kids will also probably want to pick flowers or other activities which aren’t in line with LNT. For more on this, read: [**How to Follow LNT with Little Kids (But Still Let Them Have Fun)**](https://momgoescamping.com/leave-no-trace-kids/) ## 13. Consider a Harness I know this one will be controversial, but consider putting little kids on a harness when hiking.  Why? Because it’s very difficult to constantly hold your two-year-old’s hand while hiking. And it’s mentally draining to *constantly* keep an eye on your kid.  You literally won’t be able to zone out even a bit out of fear that your child might get lost or run off a cliff. As one dad (who’s parents put him on a leash as a kid) said, “Kid leashes get a bad rap. From what I remember, it was liberating. My parents didn’t tell me to stay close anymore. They didn’t have to. Their authority became less obvious to me. The only real problem is that haters hate. To avoid this, maybe make a leash out of old climbing ropes and tell people that she’s training for Denali :).” ## 14. Attach Toys with Rope I learned this the hard way.  At 4 years old, my daughter lost a stuffed animal on a hike.  We realized once we got back to camp and had to go on a “rescue mission” to find it. Unless you feel like backtracking to find a toy or dealing with your child’s tears over the lost toy, I highly suggest you attach any toys to packs/carriers or their wrists. ## 15. Get Kids At their Best Time For most kids, this is going to mean early in the morning. You don’t want to start the hike when they are already starting to get tired and cranky. ## 16. Ignore Social Media Influencers Look through Instagram (or any other social media platform) and you’ll see endless pictures of happy parents hiking with little kids in gorgeous locations.  They make it seem so easy… What those pictures *don’t* show are all the tantrums, poop accidents, scratched knees, the back pain after carrying a child for hours… So be realistic and plan a hike which makes sense for your family instead of trying to meet unrealistic expectations. [![unrealistic family hiking photo](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/unrealistic-hiking-photo.jpg "unrealistic hiking photo - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/unrealistic-hiking-photo.jpg)*This photo is so staged it makes me want to puke* ## 17. Celebrate Successes Most importantly, celebrate successes – no matter how small.  If doesn’t matter if you didn’t complete the hike or cover a lot of miles.  What does matter is that you and your kids are getting into nature and pushing boundaries.  Be proud! **Do you go hiking with your little kids? What tips can you add? Let us know in the comments below.** --- ###### **Image credits:** **“[Family](https://www.flickr.com/photos/eznix/31653241531/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [nix\|photo](https://www.flickr.com/people/eznix/),** “[Baby Hiker](https://www.flickr.com/photos/kteague/170116149/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [kteague](https://www.flickr.com/people/kteague/) **“[What’s this](https://www.flickr.com/photos/ferronj/532412459/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [ ](https://www.flickr.com/people/ferronj/)[JON\_CF](https://www.flickr.com/people/ferronj/)[ ](http://www.imagecodr.org/)** “[kid hikes](https://www.flickr.com/photos/sethstoll/4299811008/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [ ](https://www.flickr.com/people/sethstoll/)[sethstoll](https://www.flickr.com/people/sethstoll/)[ ](http://www.imagecodr.org/) ###### Sources: <https://www.reddit.com/r/hiking/comments/42u3z7/hiking_with_a_toddler/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/PNWhiking/comments/vdus7k/hiking_with_a_toddler_suggestions/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/WildernessBackpacking/comments/u2w310/ready_to_try_backpacking_with_our_toddler_any/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/HikingWithKids/comments/108vlr2/kid_too_big_for_backpack_and_too_young_to_hike_on/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/WildernessBackpacking/comments/u2w310/ready_to_try_backpacking_with_our_toddler_any/> <https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/59504/> ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking **Tags:** hiking, kids, toddlers --- ### [Is Merino Wool Worth It?](https://momgoescamping.com/is-merino-wool-worth-it/) **Published:** November 21, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** For the longest time, I refused to buy expensive backpacking clothing.  I was certain that all those “experts” who recommended Merino wool (or other pricy materials) were just part of a marketing scam.  Heck, I even used to go backpacking in *cotton* clothes! And then I found a 100% Merino base layer at a secondhand store. To my dismay, I loved it.  It was “dismay” because, like when I got [hooked on good hiking socks](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-socks-worth-it/), once you’ve tried Merino base layers, there’s probably no going back. ## Is Merino Worth It? The Quick Answer: For everyday wear, Merino wool probably is *not* worth the cost. It also probably isn’t worth it for activities like car camping or day hikes since cheap synthetics will work almost as well. But, for multi-day backpacking trips, Merino wool *base layers, socks and underwear* are probably worth the extra cost.  Not only are they lighter and more comfortable, but they don’t stink like synthetics.  The smell factor alone is what makes Merino worth it for a lot of backpackers. ## What Is Merino Wool? Merino wool comes from the Merino breed of sheep.  These sheep are known for having ultra-fine wool with fibers between 10 and 20 microns.  By contrast, the fibers on other common breeds of wool sheep are usually larger than 30 microns, which is significantly coarser.  This is why Merino wool is known for being so soft. ([1](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8127695/), [2](https://iwto.org/sheep/)) ## Benefits of Merino Wool ### 1. Odor-Control Anyone who has worn a synthetic performance shirt or base layer knows just how quickly they start to stink.  Cotton doesn’t stink nearly as bad as synthetic but will still be very funky after a workout.  By comparison, wool clothing doesn’t smell. There are even reports of people wearing the same Merino wool clothes for *weeks* without washing and the clothes didn’t smell bad. The textile industry has actually done multiple studies into odor-resistance properties of various fabrics.  Studies consistently show that wool (including Merino wool) is better than synthetics and cotton for resisting odor.  Wool even has less “odor intensity” than synthetics with odor-control treatments. Contrary to common belief, wool is NOT antibacterial: it does not kill bacteria.  However, its fibers create an environment which makes it difficult for bacteria to grow.  One study found that the levels of odor-associated bacteria remained unchanged on wool fabrics for 28 days after wearing.  In other words, the wool clothing didn’t get funkier even when sitting around! By contrast, another study found that synthetics had high levels of bacterial growth.  ([3](https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/17569370.2016.1215117), [4](https://journals.asm.org/doi/full/10.1128/AEM.01422-14), [5](https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0040517507074816), [6](https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0040517518801183), [7](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8950207/)) ### 2. Comfort Compared to regular wool, Merino wool is much more comfortable to wear.  The fine fibers mean it doesn’t feel itchy on skin. In most situations, Merino wool is also more comfortable than cotton or synthetics.  It beats cotton because of its excellent wicking abilities, meaning it will pull moisture away from your skin so you don’t feel cold and clammy.   And it beats synthetics because it is so much more breathable. Interesting note: Studies found that switching from standard clothing to Merino wool improved eczema and atopic dermatitis in adults as well as infants.  It’s definitely better for your skin! ([8](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8127695/)) ### 3. Larger Temperature Range A good Merino base layer will work well in a wide range of temperatures: it breathes well in warm weather but still insulates well in colder temperatures.   This means you can get more use out of your Merino clothing.  By contrast, you’d need a thinner and thicker synthetic layer to feel comfortable across warm and cold temperature ranges. ### 4. Packability Merino is great for situations where packability is a concern, such as international travel or when you don’t have much luggage space.   For its size and weight, it offers a lot of insulation.  It doesn’t wrinkle.  And, since it doesn’t smell quickly, you won’t have to bring as many clothes with you – thus saving space in your pack. ## Situations Where Merino Is Worth It I definitely don’t wear Merino wool in my everyday life.  Instead, I save my Merino clothing for situations where I think it’s “worth it.” These mostly include situations where I’m going to be wearing the same clothing for days on end – such as backpacking trips.  I usually take buses home from trips and it’s nice that I don’t have to worry about bothering other passengers with my stink!  If you backpack with a partner, they will also appreciate that you don’t stink. 🙂 I’ve also started wearing my Merino clothes when traveling.  Since I can wear the Merino clothing multiple times without it stinking and it’s suitable for multiple temperatures, I don’t have to pack as much. ## Merino Mid Layers Are NOT Worth It Merino wool is only worth the cost when worn as a base layer.  I do *not* think it’s worth paying for a Merino wool mid-layer, such as a Merino wool hoodie or sweater. Since it isn’t next to your skin, the softness of Merino doesn’t matter when worn as a mid-layer.  Mid-layers usually don’t start to stink (at least very quickly), so the anti-odor benefit of Merino doesn’t matter much either.   And there are plenty of other mid-layer materials which are nearly as warm but cost a fraction of the price.  I’d take a cheap fleece over a Merino hoodie any day! I do have a regular wool hoodie that I wear when hiking in winter. It would have cost a fortune, but I found it secondhand.  I absolutely LOVE that wool hoodie – especially since I don’t have to worry about it getting wet like I do with a feather puffy. So, I can understand why someone with money to spare would buy a Merino mid-layer.  But, since I don’t have money to spare, I’ll stick to my Merino base layers. 🙂 --- ###### Other Sources: <https://www.reddit.com/r/onebag/comments/6nnckh/merino_wool_shirt_review_are_they_worth_it_my/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/onebag/comments/b6de3k/is_merino_wool_really_worth_it/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/r2d1z2/is_merino_really_worth_the_money/> <https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/sms.12117> ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [Best Women’s Long Underwear and Base Layer Bottoms](https://momgoescamping.com/best-womens-long-underwear/) **Published:** November 23, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Women’s long underwear (aka long johns, thermal underwear or base layer bottoms) have come a long way.  Not only are there some really cool designs available, but there are long johns with high-tech features like being able to wick moisture away from your body and having panels for a perfect fit – great if you are tired of seams riding up your privates! :p Here are the best women’s long underwear, including picks for intense outdoor activities, ones which can be worn as leggings and budget-friendly options. **Also read: [Best Merino Base Layer Tops for Women](https://momgoescamping.com/merino-wool-base-layers-women/)** ## Quick Picks: - **Best Overall:** Icebreaker Oasis Merino bottoms (Check price at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3AEerlw), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dicebreaker%2Boasis%2Bbottoms%26pagesize%3D90%20)) - **Runner Up:** Helly Hansen Merino-Lifa base layer bottom ([Amazon](https://amzn.to/3GA6u4G), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dhelly%2Bhansen%2Bmerino%2Blifa%2Bwomens%2Bpants%26pagesize%3D90)) - **Best for Intense Activity:** Arc’teryx Rho base layer bottom ([Amazon](https://amzn.to/3UZCMdv), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F209254%2Farcteryx-rho-wool-base-layer-bottoms-womens%20)) - **Best for Pajamas:** Kari Traa Floke bottoms ([Amazon](https://amzn.to/3XvgC4z), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dkari%2Btraa%2Bbottoms%26pagesize%3D90%20)) - **Budget Pick:** Stoic poly synthetic long johns ([Amazon](https://amzn.to/3GcVJUn)) ### 1. Icebreaker Bodyfit Oasis Women’s Merino Bottoms ![icebreaker oasis womens long john base layers](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/icebreaker-oasis-womens-long-john-base-layers.jpg "icebreaker oasis womens long john base layers - Mom Goes Camping") **Features:** - **Material:** 100% Merino wool - **Weight:** Light/midweight (200g) - **Waist:** Low with elastic waistband - **Colors:** Black, gray, navy, espresso - **Crotch gusset:** Yes - **Available At:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3AEerlw), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dicebreaker%2Boasis%2Bbottoms%26pagesize%3D90%20) Icebreaker clothing is expensive, but it’s pricy for a reason.  For starters, they use a really nice quality Merino wool.  The fibers range from 15.5 – 23.5  microns in size, which means they are so small that the wool is soft and not itchy.   Icebreaker wool is responsibly-sourced. The construction on the Oasis leggings is also nice.  You can’t feel the seams at all.  There’s an additional fabric panel in the back area so the leggings won’t ride up on you at all.  The waistband is thinner (which I personally prefer).  However, the thinner waistband can dig into your waist, especially if you are a bit heavier. At 200 g/m2, the Oasis leggings fall between a lightweight and mid base layer.  This weight is perfect for everyday wear, light activity in moderate weather, or high activity in colder weather. Note: Icebreaker also makes a ¾ version of the Oasis leggings. **Pros:** - Super-fine Merino wool - Good fit - Also available in ¾ length **Cons:** - Thin waistband - Slightly see-through --- ### 2. Helly Hansen Midweight Lifa Merino ![helly hansen base layer bottom womens front and back view](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/helly-hansen-base-layer-bottom-womens-front-and-back-view.jpg "helly hansen base layer bottom womens front and back view - Mom Goes Camping") - **Material:** 57% merino, 43% Lifa polypropylene - **Weight:** Midweight - **Waist:** High - **Colors:** Lots of color options plus patterns - **Crotch gusset:** Yes - **Available At:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3GA6u4G), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dhelly%2Bhansen%2Bmerino%2Blifa%2Bwomens%2Bpants%26pagesize%3D90) These base layer bottoms are made from two layers.  The inner layer is trademarked Lifa material, which has superior wicking properties.  The exterior layer is Merino wool, which also helps with wicking and prevents odor.  This combination makes the bottoms perfect for cold-weather activities where you will be sweating a lot. The bottoms are also constructed for high-intensity activities.  The crotch gusset is larger than on most women’s long johns, so you can practically do the splits in these without stretching them out.  The bootie and legs also have articulated patterns for movement and better fit.  You won’t feel the seams at all. These are still a relatively new product, so there aren’t too many reviews.  But I suspect they will be popular with female adventurers. **Pros:** - Amazing fit - Very durable - Great wicking properties - Lots of colors and fun patterns - Not see-through **Cons:** - Hand-wash only --- ### 3. Smartwool Classic 250 Baselayer Bottom [![smartwool base layer bottoms classic front and back view](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/smartwool-base-layer-bottoms-classic-front-and-back-view.jpg "smartwool base layer bottoms classic front and back view - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/smartwool-base-layer-bottoms-classic-front-and-back-view.jpg) - **Material:** 100% Merino - **Weight:** Midweight - **Waist:** Mid - **Colors:** Lots of color options plus patterns - **Crotch gusset:** Yes - **Available At:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3Vn3JYq), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F154757%2Fsmartwool-classic-thermal-merino-base-layer-bottoms-womens%20) These long johns are similar to the Icebreaker Vertex leggings.  Both are made from 250g Merino wool and have articulated designs for good movement. These Smartwool bottoms have a higher waist with a thicker waistband though.  The crotch area is a bit short though. If you have a larger bootie, they might not be the best choice. Icebreaker products are generally better quality than Smartwool.  However, the difference in quality isn’t that huge – especially when you factor in that Smartwool products are usually a bit cheaper than Icebreaker. They also have more color and pattern options. **Pros:** - Good value - Not see-through **Cons:** - Crotch area a bit short - Not for large booties --- ### 4. Arc’teryx Rho Merino Base Layer Bottom ![arcteryx rho base layer bottom](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/arcteryx-rho-base-layer-bottom.jpg "arcteryx rho base layer bottom - Mom Goes Camping") - **Material:** 240g Merino wool, 220g Chira synthetic - **Weight:** Light/midweight - **Waist:** High with knit-lined waistband - **Colors:** Black, blue, sandstone - **Crotch gusset:** Yes - **Available At:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3UZCMdv), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F209254%2Farcteryx-rho-wool-base-layer-bottoms-womens%20) If you need a base layer for high-intensity activities – and are willing to pay more for them – then the Arc’teryx Rho leggings are fantastic.  Whereas other good long johns will maybe have a crotch gusset, the Rho leggings have a completely articulated design.  They are made up of several pieces of fabric which allow movement in all directions. Not only does this make them more comfortable, but it means they will last longer since they won’t stretch out in key areas. The main material is 240g Merino wool, but they also contain Arc’teryxs trademarked Chira material which is high-wicking. There’s a pocket on the thigh, which is somewhat pointless IMO. It’s big enough to fit a phone. Note: The leggings are slightly see-through! Don’t plan on wearing them with nothing on top! 🙂 **Pros:** - Insanely good fit - Great wicking properties **Cons:** - Somewhat see-through - Pricy --- ### 5. REI Merino 185 Base Layer Bottoms ![rei merino base layer bottoms](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/rei-merino-base-layer-bottoms.jpg "rei merino base layer bottoms - Mom Goes Camping") - **Material:** 185g Merino wool - **Weight:** Lightweight - **Waist:** Low - **Colors:** Black, blue, purple - **Crotch gusset:** Yes - **Available At:** [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DREI%2BMerino%2B185%2BBase%2BLayer%2BBottoms%2B%26pagesize%3D90%26ir%3Dq%253AREI%2BMerino%2B185%2BBase%2BLayer%2BBottoms%2B%26r%3Dcategory%253Awomens-clothing) REI’s Merino base layer bottoms are definitely more affordable than other brands.  However, be warned that these are 185g Merino – which is pretty lightweight.  Since there are no synthetics in the long johns (which would add strength), the bottoms can quickly get holes or tears.  This is fine if you need base layers for everyday wear or moderate activity.  But they aren’t a good choice if you do high-movement activities like climbing. Considering that they are lightweight, the REI base layer bottoms are surprisingly not see-through. You can wear them as leggings.  But, over time, I’m guessing they will become somewhat transparent. I also don’t like the stitching on these as much as Icebreaker long johns, but that’s just me be nitpicky – especially since the REI bottoms are cheaper. **Pros:** - Good value - Ultra-soft Merino - Not see-through **Cons:** - Not very durable --- ### 6. Kari Traa Floke Base Layer Bottoms [![kari traa floke base layer bottoms](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/kari-traa-floke-base-layer-bottoms.jpg "kari traa floke base layer bottoms - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/kari-traa-floke-base-layer-bottoms.jpg) - **Material:** 60% Merino, 40% Lenzing modal - **Weight:** Light/mid - **Waist:** Low - **Colors:** Multiple patterns - **Crotch gusset:** No - **Available At:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3XvgC4z), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dkari%2Btraa%2Bbottoms%26pagesize%3D90%20) I found these base layer bottoms at a secondhand store and love them.  They are made up of a blend of Merino wool and “Lenzing modal”, which is a sustainably-made synthetic made by a German brand.  It’s very soft, breathable and has good wicking properties. They are definitely more comfortable than some of the 100% Merino base layers I have but still don’t get me sweaty or stinky. You can’t feel the seams at all.  The waistband is very thin and low compared to most other women’s base layer bottoms. There isn’t a crotch gusset but the extra panel on the side does help with movement. Because they are so comfy, I usually wear them as camping pajamas.  I also find the design to be perfect for pajamas.  But it’s a bit cheesy to wear as leggings IMO. Considering that these were secondhand when I got them and I’ve washed them several times, they’ve held up well; no holes or tears yet.  Kari Traa products are fairly pricy but you can often find them on sale for very cheap, such as in the REI Outlet section. Note: Kari Traa also makes a synthetic version of these bottoms called the Lune. **Pros:** - Great breathability - Very soft - Good value - Durable **Cons:** - No crotch gusset - Often on sale --- ### 8. Stoic Poly Base Layer ![stoic base layers for women bottoms](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/stoic-base-layers-for-women-bottoms.jpg "stoic base layers for women bottoms - Mom Goes Camping") - **Material:**92% recycled polyester, 8% spandex jersey - **Weight:** Lightweight (195g) - **Waist:** Mid - **Colors:** Multiple options - **Crotch gusset:** Yes - **Available At:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3GcVJUn) The brand Stoic isn’t very well known in the United States (it’s more popular in the UK and EU).  Their products aren’t fantastic, but they are a lot better than the generic stuff you’ll find online.   They have a lot of cheap base layer options. Since there is 8% spandex in these bottoms, you can expect them to stretch nicely.  There’s also an ample crotch gusset and articulated pattern around the waist/bootie area.  Of course, polyester and spandex will start to stink really quickly. This isn’t a problem with the Stoic bottoms themselves but rather a problem with all synthetic long johns.  The main issue is that the synthetic material wraps around the waistband, so it ends up being very chunky  and possibly uncomfortable. **Pros:** - Good stretch and fit - Can find on sale for very cheap **Cons:** - Waistband a bit bulky --- ## Comparison \[table id=76 /\] ## How to Choose Women’s Long Johns ### Material The first thing to look at is the material of the long johns. - **Cotton:** Unless you are only using them as pajamas, don’t ever get cotton long johns. They absorb sweat, leaving you feeling cold. - **Synthetics:** Synthetics do a good job of wicking sweat away from your body so you don’t feel cold. They  start to stink really quickly though, so aren’t great for multi-day adventures where you can’t do laundry. - **Wool:** You really can’t do better than wool for long johns. It is warm, wicking, and doesn’t stink even after wearing it for days.   Merino wool is ultra-fine and doesn’t itch. The downsides are that wool is expensive, isn’t very durable, and needs to be washed carefully. - **Synthetic/wool blends:** Adding a bit of synthetic to wool base layers helps them be more durable and keep their shape better. **Also read: [Is Merino Wool Worth It?](https://momgoescamping.com/is-merino-wool-worth-it/)** ### Weight When talking about long johns and base layers, the “weight” refers to how warm they are.  With wool base layers, this is measured as grams of material per meter square: the higher the number, the thicker and warmer the garment will be. Keep in mind that your legs don’t require as much insulation as your upper body.  You don’t want to end up sweaty! That’s why it’s hard to find heavyweight long johns: unless you are sitting outdoors sub-zero temps, they simply are too warm. Most people skip a mid-layer on their legs (but still wear a mid-layer such as a fleece or puffy on their upper body).   If wearing an insulating layer on your legs or your shell pants have insulation, you’ll probably need to use a lighter base layer bottom then you have on your top. **Lightweight:** - Up to 200 g/m2 - Best for light activity in mild temperatures *or* strenuous activity in colder temperatures - Thin fabric can tear quickly **Midweight** - 200 g/m2 to 300 g/m2 - Good for light activity at cold temperatures *or* high activity in very cold temperatures - The most versatile option **Heavyweight:** - 300 g/m2 - Good for no/low activity during cold temperatures - Not good for moderate or high activity unless *very* cold temperatures - Usually can be worn by themselves as leggings ### Crotch Gussets A crotch gusset is a triangular piece of fabric.  It helps prevent the crotch area from stretching out, losing its shape or ripping.  This is important when doing outdoor activities like hiking or skiing.  Women’s long johns with crotch gussets are also more comfortable because you don’t have a seam going up your privates. ### Articulated Construction In addition to a crotch gusset, some womens base layer bottoms have articulated constructions.  This means they are made out of multiple panels of fabric which mimic your body’s movement. Articulated base layers cost much more (because there are more fabric panels to sew together), but they are much more comfortable to wear.  They will (usually) also last longer because the construction prevents the material from stretching out. ### High or Low-Rise Waist This is a matter of personal preference.  Some people prefer a high-rise waist because they stay in place better, especially when bending over.  A high waist is usually better for bigger booties because you don’t have to worry about coverage as much. I personally prefer a lower waist though.  I simply don’t like how waistbands feel when squeezing against my stomach.  It’s also easier to fit my other layers over low-waist long johns. ### Waistband Thickness You’ll also need to look at the thickness of the waistband.  Again, this is a matter of personal preference.  Some women prefer a thicker waistband because it keeps the long johns in place.  It usually won’t dig into your skin as much, which is important if you are a curvier woman. Other women (myself included) prefer a very thin waistband since I don’t like the elastic feel against my skin.  I’m fairly skinny though, so I don’t have to worry about the waistband digging into my love handles. ### Can You Wear them as Leggings? Want to wear the base layer bottoms by themselves as leggings?  Be warned that some – especially lightweight Merino — are transparent.  Long johns also have a tendency to stretch/thin after repeated washings.  So, even if they start off as suitable for leggings, they might end up see-through later on. ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** base layers, clothes, merino --- ### [Best Budget-Friendly Rain Boots for Kids](https://momgoescamping.com/best-rain-boots-kids/) **Published:** February 14, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Playing outside in rainy, muddy weather can actually be really fun.  My kids jump in puddles, make mud pies and enjoy being outdoors. But your kids need to have the right gear for rainy weather play.  This includes a rain suit or jacket and pants and waterproof rain boots. There are some really great kids rain boots out there, but I personally am not willing to spend $50+ on rain boots that my kids will outgrow in a few seasons.  Below are the best *budget-friendly* rain boots for kids which are still good enough for serious outdoor play.  At the time of writing, all of the rain boots cost less than $35, though that might have changed. Skip ahead for [How to Choose Rain Boots](#choose) as well as [tips to get multiple-seasons use out of one pair of boots](#tip). Also read: [Best Rain Suits for Toddlers](https://momgoescamping.com/best-rain-suits-toddlers/) and [Best Rain Pants for Kids](https://momgoescamping.com/best-kids-rain-pants/) ## Best Rain Boots for Babies, Toddlers and Kids ### 1. Crocs Unisex Handle It Rain Boots **Best Overall** ![crocs handle it kids rain boots](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/crocs-handle-it-kids-rain-boots.jpg "crocs handle it kids rain boots - Mom Goes Camping") #### Features - **Available Sizes:** 6 toddler to 13 little kid - **Colors:** Yellow, pink, green, black, blue - **Lining:** No - **Insole:** No - **Okay for winter?** Yes - [**Buy Here** ](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00RBBEPSO/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00RBBEPSO&linkId=24a3eb86c54c0845661e78fc9dead57e) **Review:** Crocs makes really nice rain boots.  Their Handle It model is my personal favorite.  The large handles actually do make it easier to get the boots on and the handles are sturdy enough that they won’t break.  I also love that there is no lining in the boots so they dry quickly. The traction on these Crocs rain boots is good enough for them to be used in winter. You’ll just need to put an insole inside the boot for insulation and thick socks on your kid. **Pros** - Large handles for easy on - Great fit - Reflective heel logo - Lightweight - Durable construction and handles - Good traction **Cons** - Some sizes don’t meet budget requirement - No cute designs [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00RBBEPSO/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00RBBEPSO&linkId=24a3eb86c54c0845661e78fc9dead57e) --- ### 2. Kamik  Stomp Kids Rain Boots **Best for Bigger Kids** ![kamik stomp kids rain boots](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/kamik-stomp-kids-rain-boots.jpg "kamik stomp kids rain boots - Mom Goes Camping") #### Features - **Available Sizes:** Toddler, Little Kid and Big Kid - **Colors:** Black, yellow, pink, blue, purple, camo, and more - **Lining:** Yes - **Insole:** Yes - **Okay for winter?** No - [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00H1DJOQK/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00H1DJOQK&linkId=98b15e43a8d77924571ced91e02a2f26) **Review:** These rain boots come in little and big kid sizes.  They are particularly good for bigger kids though because they don’t have baby-ish designs but still look cool (my style-conscious 11-year old approves of them). For an affordable rain boot, they are still fairly well-made.  The plastic holds up and doesn’t crack.  There is a lining in the boot but it is actually sewn in place (not just glued) so it doesn’t peel away like with others.  There is also an insole but it is really thin and terrible, so I would recommend replacing it with one of your own. A big downside of the Kamik Stomp boots is that they have a weird seam on the inner edge.  This seam can rub against your child’s legs.  Your kid will need to wear tall socks or tuck their pants into the boots to prevent this.  I saw that some parents just cut the top of the boot off to get rid of the seam! Note that these rain boots really aren’t great for winter.  The sole is too thin.  The fit is also fairly narrow so you won’t be able to put too many layers on your kid. They are also at the upper end of the budget. **Pros** - Lightweight - Fit well - Lining doesn’t peel away - Durable - Decent tration **Cons** - Cheap and thin insole - Collar may chafe skin - Pricier - No handle [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00H1DJOQK/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00H1DJOQK&linkId=98b15e43a8d77924571ced91e02a2f26) --- ### 3. Say Yea Baby Rain Boots #### Best for little walkers (1-2 years old) [![Babys Rain Boots Children Waterproof Shoes for Boys Girls(5 Toddler)](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41EasHTLxKL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06WRQRYZY?tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) #### Features - **Available Sizes:** 5-10 toddler - **Colors:** Black, yellow, blue, pink - **Lining:** Yes - **Insole:** Yes - **Okay for winter?** No - [**Buy Here**](https://amzn.to/3wMe5KU) **Review:** For such cheap rain boots, these ones are surprisingly well-made. They are made of a flexible plastic which doesn’t crack when bent. The removable insole is breathable and provides decent insulation. There is a collar at the top edge which serves two purposes: it holds the cotton lining in place and also prevents chafing. The flat sole and flexible design and make these the best rain boots for little walkers. They are short to keep them lightweight, so your toddler’s feet won’t get too tired stomping through puddles. The only real downside is the cotton lining.  It will take a long time to dry and can get stinky if it gets saturated. Make sure your little one has good rain pants to wear over these so water doesn’t get in. **Pros** - Definitely puddle worthy - Soft cotton lining - Flexible - Flat soled - Lightweight - Sturdy construction - No-chafe collar **Cons** - Bad traction - No pull straps - Longer dry time [**Buy Here**](https://amzn.to/3wMe5KU) --- ### 4. LoneCone Kids Rain Boots #### Best for cute designs ![lonecone cute kids rain boots](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/lonecone-cute-kids-rain-boots.jpg "lonecone cute kids rain boots - Mom Goes Camping") #### Features - **Available Sizes:** 4 Toddler to 4 Big Kid - **Colors:** Lots of cute designs - **Lining:** Yes - **Insole:** Yes - **Okay for winter?** No - [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09G527L7W/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B09G527L7W&linkId=c1d46594a65953d6d02c313ea0c21f98) **Review:** LoneCone is a very popular brand of rain boots for kids, mostly because they are really affordable and have lots of super-cute designs.  They are also certified free of BPA, phthalates and harmful chemicals. The boots themselves do seem to hold up well. However, the fabric lining will eventually separate from the inner boot. The handles are also flimsy and can easily break- use them for carrying and not pulling onto your kid’s foot! Note that LoneCone gets really mixed reviews. Some people say the boots lasted their kids years whereas others say the boots cracked in a matter of months.  LoneCone does have a 6-month guarantee on the rain boots, but apparently the company doesn’t always respond. **Pros** - Lots of super-cute designs - Lightweight - Fit well - 6 month guarantee - Certified BPA and phthalates free **Cons** - Insole is cheap and thin - Lining peels away - Handle breaks easily - Mixed reviews [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09G527L7W/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B09G527L7W&linkId=c1d46594a65953d6d02c313ea0c21f98) --- ### 5. Western Chief Glitter Rain Boots #### Best for school-aged girls and divas 🙂 ![westernchief glitter rain boots for girls](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/westernchief-glitter-rain-boots-for-girls.jpg "westernchief glitter rain boots for girls - Mom Goes Camping") #### Features - **Available Sizes:** 5 Toddler to 13 Little Kid - **Colors:** Purple, silver, blue, pink, turquoise, silver and more - **Lining:** Yes - **Insole:** Yes - **Okay for winter?** No - [**Buy Here**](https://amzn.to/3WSjP0j) **Review:** My older daughter is really picky about style. Most rain boots in her size have really childish designs, so it’s no surprise she doesn’t want to wear them. But you can’t really go wrong with glitter and girls 🙂 The rain boots are well-made and hold up well enough  The lining will start to peel away a bit over time, but it doesn’t fall off like with some brands.  Note that these rain boots are fairly narrow though.  This makes it difficult to fit with thick socks on.  They are definitely *not* for cold weather. **Pros** - Very affordable - Lightweight - Fit well - Lining doesn’t peel away **Cons** - Insole is cheap and thin - Handle breaks easily - Poor traction - A bit narrow [**Buy Here**](https://amzn.to/3WSjP0j) --- ### 6. K KomForme Light Up Rain Boots #### Best: Cheap option for occasional puddle stomping [![K KomForme Toddler Light Up Rain Boots Patterns and Glitter Rain Boots for Girls Boys with Handles](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41-sF1P67KL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08LMPG63T?tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) #### Features - **Available Sizes:** 5-13 toddler, 1-3 big kid - **Colors:** 19 cute designs - **Lining:** No - **Insole:** No - **Okay for winter?** No - [**Buy Here**](https://amzn.to/3UVdcrx) **Review:** The light-up features on the KomForme toddler rain boots is fantastic.  Not only will your kids love making their boots light up each time they splash, the lights also make it easier to see your toddler at dusk. The boots are completely unlined and have a removable insole. This makes them very easy to clean and fast to dry. Because there is nothing but plastic against your kid’s legs, you can expect chafing: wear these rain boots over long underwear or socks! As you’d expect from a cheap rain boot, the handles will break easily – use them for carrying and not pulling.  There is a chemical smell and expect the lights to break after a season or two.  I expect the stiff plastic would also crack eventually too. **Pros** - Lights in sole for visibility in dark - No lining; removable insole - Easy to clean - Durable construction - Very affordable **Cons** - Sizes run small - Weak handle breaks easily - Chemical smell - Not flat soled - Expect light to fail - Inconsistent quality [**Buy Here**](https://amzn.to/3UVdcrx) --- \[sta\_anchor id=”choose” /\] ## How to Choose Kids Rain Boots ### Insulated vs. Non-Insulated Rain Boots Rain boots without insulation are better for playing in the rain.  Linings absorb water.  Once wet, they take a long time to dry and can [get stinky](https://momgoescamping.com/rain-boots-stink/). They are also harder to clean.  If you are worried that it will be cold, put your child in *two* layers of socks: a thin liner sock (or stockings) to wick away moisture and an insulating wool sock on top. However, insulated rain boots are great for playing in cold, muddy weather.  Just make sure your child has good rain pants to go on top of the boots so the inside stays dry. \[sta\_anchor id=”tip” /\] **Tip:**  Buy unlined rain boots a size bigger in fall. Get a good insole for them and have your child wear two pairs of socks.  By the time summer comes (and their feet have grown) the rain boots will still fit with just one pair of socks.  This is how I get multiple seasons out of my kids’ rain boots. ### Can Kids Wear Rain Boots in Winter? Most kids rain boots simply aren’t suitable for winter use.  They don’t have enough insulation to keep your kids’ feet warm.  Because they are completely waterproof and not breathable, your kids feet can also end up wet from sweat. *However,* if you live somewhere that doesn’t get very cold in winter, you can get away with using rain boots as winter boots.  Size up and you’ll be able to use them for summer puddle splashing too. **For rain boots to be suitable for winter, they must have:** - Good traction - Thick sole - Insulating insole - Size large enough to wear with multiple pairs of socks ### Sizing Rain Boots Kids rain boots come in toddler, little kid and big kid sizes.  The number does *not* correlate to their age. **To measure your child’s rain boot size:** 1. Put on socks. They should be the same socks you’d wear with the boots. For cold weather, put on a liner sock and an insulating sock. 2. Have your child stand on a piece of paper. 3. Outline their foot. 4. Measure the foot from top to bottom. 5. Check the size chart to find your child’s size. \[table id=54 /\] \*In inches \*\*Based on Oaki, Outdoor Master and some generic Chinese brand sizing #### Should I Size Up Kids Rain Boots? If you measure your child’s foot in thick socks, there is no reason to size up rain boots.  You don’t want them to be too big or your kids’ feet will wiggle around in them too much and could get blisters.  Too-big boots will also come off if they get stuck in mud! Just remember that many rain boot brands run big or small.  Always check the sizes against the brand’s size chart.  Check exchange policies before buying in case you get the wrong size. #### Testing Rain Boot Fit Rain boots which fit well will have a “pop” when you put them on.  Your kids’ feet should be loose in the boot but not wiggle or clomp when walking. With all footwear, I give my kids the “jump test”:  They need to jump and hop around to see if they fit. ### Do Rain Boots Need Handles? Handles are nice to have on rain boots for very little kids.  Once kids get old enough to stand up and push their feet into the boots, then handles aren’t as necessary. Boot handles also tends to be the weakest part of the boot and will snap if pulled too hard. ### Rain Boot Collar The collar is the upper, outer edge of the rain boot.  A good collar will help [prevent boot chafing](https://momgoescamping.com/rain-boots-skin-chafing/). Avoid rain boots with drawstring collars: they cut off circulation and dig into the skin. Drawstrings don’t even keep rain out of the boots nearly as well as a good pair of rain pants. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/kids-rain-boots-with-drawstrings.jpg "kids rain boots with drawstrings - Mom Goes Camping")Rain boots with drawstrings are uncomfortable to wear and water will still drip in![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/rain-pants-over-boots.jpg "Funny kid in rain boots playing in a rain park - Mom Goes Camping")For puddle play rain pants go over the boots ### Rain Boot Lining and Insole Many rain boots have a thin liner on the inside.  The liner makes the rain boot harder to clean and take longer to dry, but it also makes it more comfortable to wear.  Cheap rain boots often just glue the liner place.  These liners will start to peel away from the boot and make them uncomfortable to wear.  Better quality rain boots sew the liner in place or even have a sewn collar around the upper edge. Most rain boots come with an insole. They are usually cheap and provide almost no insulation.  If you want to use the rain boots as winter boots for your kids, you’ll need to buy a better insole. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/rain-boot-lining.jpg "rain boot lining - Mom Goes Camping")Note the lining on these cheap rain boots is starting to peel away from the interior --- Image credits: “[Grandson’s Fun In The Puddles.](https://www.flickr.com/photos/audreyjm529/7539430312/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [audreyjm529](https://www.flickr.com/people/audreyjm529/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** rain --- ### [Weighing In: The Pros and Cons of Trekking Poles](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-poles-pros-cons/) **Published:** April 5, 2017 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I never really thought too much about trekking poles.  After all, I’m young and have yet to experience any problems with knee or hip pain.  And, if the terrain got tricky, I could always scout out a branch to use instead of a hiking pole. But then I went on a few hikes with my boyfriend, who has muscle atrophy in his leg due to a bout of polio when he was young.  Suffice to say, he needs the extra stability and his everyday cane just isn’t going to cut it on a trail. After poking around in hiking groups, I realized that I’m not the only one who underestimated the advantages of using trekking poles. Pretty much all hikers over the age of 45 seem to use them, users say they saved their knees and hips, and many **hikers say wish they’d started to use trekking poles earlier.** ![1 copy](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/1-copy.jpg "1 copy - Mom Goes Camping") That doesn’t mean that trekking poles are absolutely necessary.  I usually go hiking in woody areas and haven’t had trouble finding walking sticks to use (plus, it is an excuse to take out my survival knife to clean the stick). So here are the pros and cons of walking sticks so you can decide for yourself. ## The Pros of Trekking Poles ### Trekking Poles Save your Hips and Knees ![hiking poles for difficult terrain](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/difficult-1.jpg "difficult (1) - Mom Goes Camping") When you use trekking poles, you are distributing some of the weight and strain from your legs and hips to your arms, chest, and shoulders. They are especially useful in taking the pressure off your knees in extreme uphill and downhill slopes.  By reducing strain now, trekking poles can even save your hips and knees for the future. Numerous studies (like this [one](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17218900/)) back this up. ![2 copy](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/2-copy.jpg "2 copy - Mom Goes Camping") ### Today’s Trekking Poles Are Lightweight Thanks to advantages in material, trekking poles today usually weigh in at under 16 ounces.  Of course, that is still greater than the zero ounces that comes with not using any trekking poles.  A lot of people find it worth this bit of weight for the extra stability and how the trekking poles help distribute weight. Poles are a lot lighter than any walking stick you’d find, which means less strain on your arms and shoulders. ### Trekking Poles Are Reliable The main argument against trekking poles is that you can just find a stick to use as a walking stick/staff.  However, this isn’t always possible!  Lots of wilderness areas don’t have many trees (rocky cliffs, anyone?) so there is no guarantee you’ll be able to find a walking stick when you need one. Even more annoying is trying to find *two* walking sticks of the same relative size.  It is annoyingly unbalancing to hike with sticks of different diameters. ### Trekking Poles Prevent Injury Trekking poles give you extra stability when going over tough terrain like extreme slopes and river crossings.  This is why **[trekking poles are stastically proven to reduce accidents](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20473229).** Just make sure you are choosing the proper slip-proof hiking pole ends and holding them properly. ![3 copy](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/3-copy.jpg "3 copy - Mom Goes Camping") ### Trekking poles Can Be Used for Other Purposes ![treeking poles for shelter](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/trekking-pole-for-making-a-shelter.jpg "trekking pole for making a shelter - Mom Goes Camping") With some ingenuity, trekking poles can be a valuable survival tool. You can use them: - To push a bear bag higher up when doing the counterbalance hang method - To clear brush and spider webs off the trail in front of you - To fight off a wild animal attack - As a spare tent pole - As a splint There are even tents now that use trekking poles, so you don’t even have to bring poles for your tent  Though, of course, you won’t be able to use the trekking poles while your tent is pitched. **Also read: [Best trekking pole tents](https://momgoescamping.com/best-trekking-pole-tents/).** ### Trekking poles Give You a Full body Workout ![trekking poles reduce strain on knees](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/hiking-poles.jpg "hiking poles - Mom Goes Camping") Because trekking poles shift some of the weight to your upper body, you are getting a full body workout with them. Now you’ll have muscular arms to match your thighs! As a treadmill study found, **trekking poles did not change overall metabolic energy expenditure — they just shifted the energy expenditure from the legs to the arm muscles.  However, cardiovascular demands did increase despite subjects perceiving their exertion level to be lower**. **![4 copy](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/4-copy.jpg "4 copy - Mom Goes Camping")** ### Trekking Poles Require No Prep If you want to use a walking stick, you should ideally clean it first so you don’t get blisters from your skin rubbing against bark or branch ends.  By comparison, trekking poles require no prep. ### Trekking poles Are Collapsible If you don’t need your trekking poles anymore, you can collapse them and strap them on your backpack for later use. By contrast, walking sticks are too bulky and long to carry with you for later use. You’d have to ditch the sticks and find a new one later on. ## The Cons of Trekking Poles ### Trekking Poles Mean Extra Gear to Carry ![trekking poles left at trailhead](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/poles-at-trailhead-1-1024x766.jpg "poles at trailhead (1) - Mom Goes Camping") On flat, even terrain, trekking poles aren’t necessary for most hikers – but you’ll still have to carry the poles around.  For ultra-lightweight backpackers, these extra ounces are a deal-breaker. ### Trekking Poles Are Practically Useless on Flat Ground For going up and down steep terrain, trekking poles are great.  But they are practically useless – and thus annoying – on flat ground.  Yes, you will be giving your upper body a workout by swinging those poles around, but not everyone wants to expend extra energy on the flat parts of their hike! ### Trekking Poles Can Be Pricy Good, lightweight trekking poles will cost you over $100.  There are cheaper trekking poles available, but these can break on you. Oh, and you are inevitably going to lose a hiking pole at some point and be pissed off at yourself for having to buy another. ### Walking Sticks Can Be Fun to Make ![making a walking stick](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/walking-sticks-are-fun-to-make-1.jpg "walking sticks are fun to make (1) - Mom Goes Camping") I personally love searching out a good walking stick at the start of a hike and using my knife to clean it up.  Once at camp, you can also entertain yourself by carving it up.  Oh, and it used to be common practice to leave walking sticks at the trailhead – not something that people do with trekking poles! ### Trekking Poles Tie Up Your Hands Want to stop and take a photo? Or how about take a snack or water break?  You’ll have to put your poles down first. There are trekking poles with straps, but they can be annoying because the poles will dangle you’re your wrists whenever you try to use your hands. Also read: [How to carry your camera while hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-carry-camera-hiking/) ### Trekking Poles Can Get Tangled Sometimes trekking poles get tangled in foliage.  If hiking in a group, they sometimes tap the calves of the person in front of you.  You’ve also got to be careful not to trip anyone with the trekking poles, which is harder than it sounds if you like chatting with your hiking buddies while on the trail. ### Trekking Poles Can Be a Safety Hazard Trekking poles are only going to help you if they are used correctly.  The proper position for trekking poles is: - Elbows at 90 degrees. - Elbows at your side. - Hand through the *bottom* of the strap. - Loose grip. Some people have been injured by their trekking poles, such as when straps were used incorrectly and they fell. So pay attention to your pose! ## You Still Aren’t Sold on Trekking Poles? I hear you.  I wouldn’t go spend $100 on trekking poles when I can usually find a walking stick for free. Ask to borrow someone’s trekking poles for a short trip and see how you like them. If you usually use walking sticks, you might be amazed by how lighter the poles are.  Or, if you are a minimalist hiker, you might find the poles to be an annoying extra piece of gear. ## Need Trekking Pole Recommendations? For easy hikes, any cheap pair of trekking poles will be fine. If you are backpacking longer distances, it’s worth getting ultralight poles. The [carbon poles by Cascade Mountain](http://amzn.to/2oFjbDU) are very affordable. However, the ones by [Black Diamond](https://amzn.to/4g4inig) are better, albeit much pricier.  Sometimes you can [find discounted trekking poles at REI Garage](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fs%2Fgarage). --- Image credits: “[Camp](https://www.flickr.com/photos/for_tea_too/2618662727/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [glenngould](https://www.flickr.com/people/for_tea_too/)“[Devil’s Lake III](https://www.flickr.com/photos/koonce/6296527293/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Josh Koonce](https://www.flickr.com/people/koonce/)“[Bandera Mountain Climb](https://www.flickr.com/photos/origin415/14224434330/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [gclenaghan](https://www.flickr.com/people/origin415/)“[Trekking poles](https://www.flickr.com/photos/olijon/2296090508/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Óli Jón](https://www.flickr.com/people/olijon/)“[Difficult](https://www.flickr.com/photos/bushman_k/13502998043/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Bushman.K](https://www.flickr.com/people/bushman_k/)“[Hiking poles](https://www.flickr.com/photos/npdoty/22727593742/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [npdoty](https://www.flickr.com/people/npdoty/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear, Hiking **Tags:** hiking, trekking poles --- ### [The Best Tent Heaters (And How to Use them Safely)](https://momgoescamping.com/best-safe-tent-heaters/) **Published:** December 3, 2019 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Let me be clear: a tent heat is NOT a replacement for cold-weather camping gear.  You are much better off investing in a good winter sleeping bag, a pad with a high R-value and quality base layers.   If your tent heater doesn’t work for some reason, this is the gear which will keep you alive. That said, a tent heater can make camping in cold weather more enjoyable.  But you’ll need to get the right type of tent heater and know how to use it properly. **Jump to:** - [Types of Tent Heaters](#types) - [Propane Heaters](#propane) - [Catalytic Heaters](#catalytic) - [Butane Heaters](#butane) - [Electric Space Heaters](#electric) - [Heated Mattress Pads and Blankets](#blanket) - [Hot Tents + Wood Stove](#hottent) - [Candle Heaters](#candle) - [What about Battery-Powered Tent Heaters?](#battery) - [Is It Safe to Use a Heater in a Tent?](#safety) - [Fire](#fire) - [Electrocution](#electrocution) - [CO poisoning](#co) - [Oxygen Depletion](http://oxygen) **Also read: [Guide to Winter Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/winter-camping/)** ## Quick Answer: **If camping somewhere with an electric hookup,** consider a heated blanket or mattress heater. This is much more efficient than trying to heat the air in an un-insulated tent.  If you use an electric space heater in the tent, make sure you get a good 12g cord and only use it to take the edge off before going to bed and when waking up. Don’t leave it on all night. **If you don’t have an electric hookup or want to bother with cords,** then an indoor propane heater is the way to go.  [Mr. Heater](https://amzn.to/41RsP6k) is one of the only brands which makes propane heaters safe to use in tents. They have features like automatic shutoff if tipped over or low oxygen. However, still bring a CO detector and don’t leave it on all night. **If you are serious about winter camping,** then get an insulated tent with a wood stove jack.  The setup is expensive and packing a stove is definitely not convenient, but it will keep you reliably warm. **If you are backpacking,** get one of the UCO candle heaters. They can be safely left on all night and actually do a good job of warming your tent without causing condensation. . \[sta\_anchor id=”types” /\] ## Types of Tent Heaters \[sta\_anchor id=”propane” /\] ### 1. Propane Heater [![propane tent heater](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/propane-tent-heater.jpg "propane tent heater - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/propane-tent-heater.jpg) When camping somewhere without an electric hookup, a propane heater is probably the best option. They are small, portable and propane is readily available. Unless you have an insulated tent, you’ll want to choose a *radiant* propane heater and not a conductive heater. A radiant heater heats objects directly in front of them, so you don’t waste fuel heating the great outdoors. Just make sure you are choosing a propane heater which is rated for indoor use.  Worksite propane heaters, for example, produce too much CO to be used in a tent.  More on that in the Safety section. #### Best Propane Tent Heaters The Mr. Buddy heaters are by far the most popular option for tents. They are safe to use indoors and all models have lots of safety features.  Do NOT use a propane heater which says it is for “outdoor only”.  These don’t burn cleanly and you can easily end up with CO poisoning. | Image | Product | Features | Price | |---|---|---|---| | [![Mr. Heater Little Buddy](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41jjPvrq1mL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001CFRF7I?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | [Mr. Heater Little Buddy](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001CFRF7I?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | - Up to 95 sq. ft. - Only connects to 1lb cylinders - 3,800 BTUs - Low oxygen shutoff - Tip-over shutff - 5.9lbs | [Check on Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001CFRF7I?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1)[Check at REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fc%2Ftent-heaters) | | [![Mr. Heater Buddy](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41qoYX4DljL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002G51BZU?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | [Mr. Heater Buddy](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002G51BZU?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | - Up to 225 sq. ft. - 4,000 or 9,000 BTU settings - Low oxygen shutoff - Tip-over shutoff - Can connect to 20lb tank - 9lbs | [Check on Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002G51BZU?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1)[Check at REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F126321%2Fmr-heater-portable-buddy-heater) | | [![Mr. Heater Hunting Buddy](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/4191OKsd2dL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CDJHIYW?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | [Mr. Heater Hunting Buddy](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CDJHIYW?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | - Up to 300 sq. ft. - 6,000 to 12,000BTU settings - Low oxygen shutoff - Tip-over shutoff - Can connect to 20lb tank - 14lbs | [Check on Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CDJHIYW?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | | [![Mr. Heater Big Buddy](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/514ZC5OW04L._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DD6C4TC?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | [Mr. Heater Big Buddy](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DD6C4TC?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | - Up to 450 sq. ft. - 4,000, 9,000, or 18,000 BTU settings - Low oxygen shutoff - Tip-over shutoff - Can connect to 20lb tank - 16.7lbs | [Check on Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DD6C4TC?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | **Tips:** - **Get a 20lb tank adapter hose.** The Mr. Heaters Buddy heaters can connect directly to a 1lb disposable tank. They will blow through the tank in about 3 hours on high. That gets expensive quickly! Get an adapter for a 20lb hose. You can run the heater for longer and for cheaper. - **Be prepared for condensation.** Propane stoves release a huge amount of vapor as they burn fuel. This will collect on the sides of your tent as condensation, potentially causing everything to get wet. Read about **how to deal with tent condensation**. - **Avoid the urge to get a too-large gas heater for your tent.** Otherwise the tent will get hot very quickly and you’ll have to turn off the heater.  Then the tent will get cold quickly, so you’ll have to turn the heater back on.  That means you’ll be constantly turning the heater on/off. --- \[sta\_anchor id=”catalytic” /\] ### 2. Catalytic Propane Heaters [![coleman catalytic heater](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/coleman-catalytic-heater.jpg "coleman catalytic heater - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/coleman-catalytic-heater.jpg) Catalytic heaters also run on propane and produce radiant heat.  However, they work in a different way than standard propane heaters. They produce heat with a flameless catalytic combustion.  First a catalyst is preheated.  In this case, it’s an electric heating grid with ceramic or platinum element inside.  When the structure and gas come in contact with oxygen, it creates heat. **This method has several benefits:** - **Burn clean and almost no CO produced** - **No flame required so lower fire risk** - **Combustion takes place at a lower temperature** - **Less water produced during combustion, so condensation isn’t a big problem** The only real downsides of a catalytic heater is that they are expensive.  They also have a bit of a learning curve since you need some extra accessories to use them, such as a regulator if you want to run on small propane tanks. The Camco Olympian Wave-3 is basically the only option for catalytic heaters.  It’s really popular for vans and RVs but also great for use in a tent.  Coleman used to make one called the Xtremecat (shown in the picture above) but it isn’t available anymore. | Image | Product | Features | Price | |---|---|---|---| | [![Camco Olympian Wave-3](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51NfqMPnwiL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Y3DPS87?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | [Camco Olympian Wave-3](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Y3DPS87?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | - Up to 130 sq. ft. - Adjustable 1600 to 3000 BTUs - Tip-over shutoff - 6.9lbs | [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Y3DPS87?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | --- \[sta\_anchor id=”butane” /\] ### 3. Butane Heaters If you don’t want to use propane, there are also some tent heaters which run off of butane canisters.  They are easy to use, portable and produce a lot of heat quickly.  However, compared to propane tent heaters, they can get expensive.  This is because the heater will use up a can of butane very quickly.  There also aren’t many options when in comes to butane heaters, and none of the options have good safety features. #### Best Butane Tent Heaters | Image | Product | Features | Price | |---|---|---|---| | [![Naturehike Butane Heater & Stove](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41udzwV0QAL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CKYM2J17?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | [Naturehike Butane Heater & Stove](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CKYM2J17?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | - Radiant heater - Also works as a stove - Adjustable heat - Max 2700W - 3.3lbs | [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CKYM2J17?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | | [![Kovea Cupid Gas Heater](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41oK-xDq8ML._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NAEOJYC?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | [Kovea Cupid Gas Heater](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NAEOJYC?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | - Convection heater - 1500W - 3lbs | [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NAEOJYC?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | --- \[sta\_anchor id=”electric” /\] ### 4. Electric Space Heaters for Tents There are a lot of different types of electric heaters that you could use for camping.  However, the best option is a ceramic heater.  These are newer types of convection heaters which contain a ceramic element inside. When electricity goes over the ceramic element, it is heated.  This in turn heats an aluminum baffle which blows the heated air into the tent. Compared to other types of space heaters, ceramic heaters are more efficient, heat up quickly, and are safer.  The ceramic element also continues to emit some heat even after you’ve shut off the heater. The downside is that ceramic heaters have a fan and can be very noisy.  It’s worth paying a bit more to get one which is actually noiseless.  Pay attention to whether they list the decible rating of the heater! If you prefer a radiant heater (to heat your body instead of the air in the tent), then get an infrared heater. These are quiet and even more efficient since you aren’t heating the great outdoors. #### Note about Campground Power Hookups At many USA campgrounds, the electrical hookups are designed for RVs.  This means that they are 30 or 50 amp hookups.  Usually there is also a standard 15amp outlet is at the hookup, but not always. If the campground doesn’t have a 15 amp outlet, you can use a **[30 amp male to 15 amp female adapter](https://amzn.to/2raIrVt)** to plug in your heater. UK and EU Campers: Be warned that many campground hookups only have 5amp hookups.  This will only provide about 1.15kW of power.  You can still run a tent heater on it, but it will need to be one that uses 750watts or less. #### Sizing an Electrical Heater Most electric heaters are designed to heat entire rooms.  They are going to be way to powerful for heating a small tent.  This is a situation where you *don’t* want something too powerful: the heater could dangerously overheat. To figure out what size electric heater you need for a tent, you’ll first need to figure out the square footage of your tent: **Standard Tent Sizes in Square Feet:** - 4 person tent = 55-70 sq feet - 6 person tent = 90-100 sq feet - 8 person tent = 120=130sq feet As a general rule, you’ll need approximately 10 watts of power for each square foot.   The equation is: **Total wattage / 10 = square feet that can be heated** **Or** **Total square feet x 10 = wattage required** So, that means a 750-watt heater would be enough to heat a 75 square foot tent.  Or a 1,500 watt heater could heat a tent up to 150 square feet. #### Best Electric Space Heaters for a Tent | Image | Product | Features | Price | |---|---|---|---| | [![Dr Infrared Heater](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41btVkCnKmL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002QZ11J6?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | [Dr Infrared Heater](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002QZ11J6?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | - Infraed and ceramic heating elements - 1500W/5200 BTUs - High and low settings - Automatic overheat shutoff - Tip-over shutoff - Thermostat - 39 decible fan - Timer - 24lbs | [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002QZ11J6?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | | [![Dreo Electric Heater](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51wK7HshANL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09YXJMH87?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | [Dreo Electric Heater](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09YXJMH87?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | - Ceramic conduction heater - 1500W - 4 heat plus 1 fan setting - Thermostat - Automatic overheat shutoff - Tip-over shutoff - 36.5 decibles - 3.9lbs | [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09YXJMH87?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | | [![GiveBest Ceramic Heater](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51DLM6+lcnL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07W4SN7N7?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | [GiveBest Ceramic Heater](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07W4SN7N7?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | - Ceramic conduction heater - 1500W - High, low and fan settings - Thermostat - Automatic overheat shutoff - Tip-over shutoff - 45 decibles fan - 2.9lbs | [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07W4SN7N7?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | --- \[sta\_anchor id=”blanket” /\] ### 5. Heated Mattress Pads and Electric Blankets Compared to tent heaters, heated mattress pads and blankets are much more efficient because they heat your body and bedding directly instead of trying to heat the air inside a poorly-insulated tent. This is a great solution if your main issue is feeling cold when you get into bed.  Or, if you have trouble warming up after nighttime bathroom trips. However, these will not heat your tent. That means you will still freeze your butt off when doing things like changing your clothes in the tent or getting ready for bed. Also note that you should not use heated blankets or mattress pads with air mattresses. The heat can cause the air mattress to stretch and distort.  Even a self-inflating pad might have some issues with so much heat directly on them.  You are better off with a cot or a foam pad. --- \[sta\_anchor id=”hottent” /\] ### 6. Hot Tent + Wood Stove[![hot tent with stove jack and wood stove heater](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/hot-tent.jpg "hot tent - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/hot-tent.jpg) This is by far the warmest and most pleasant way of heating your tent.  You can actually produce enough heat to warm a large tent. Ideally you would have an insulated tent to trap the heat.  But, even if it’s just a canvas or nylon tent, the wood heat is strong enough to reach all corners of the tent and warm you without having to sit right next to the heater. Another bonus is that you can keep the wood stove going all day and night (not an option with other tent heaters).  The sound of a wood fire is really pleasant too. However, it’s also the most inconvenient method of heating a tent.  You will need a special tent with a stove jack (aka “Hot Tent”).  These are usually EXPENSIVE as well as heavy and bulky. And then you also need the wood stove too.  Even “portable” folding stoves are a pain to pack up.  Aside from being heavy and bulky, you have to wait until they completely cool down before you can pack up camp. You’ll also need to gather and process wood for fuel.  Chances are this is what will ultimately keep you warm, not the fire itself. :p #### Best Hot Tents and Stoves | Image | Product | Features | Price | |---|---|---|---| | [![OneTigris Rock Fortress Hot Tent](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/311dlXZpSoS._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09B249MHJ?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | [OneTigris Rock Fortress Hot Tent](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09B249MHJ?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | - 6P - 70D nylon - 12.4ft diameter, 7.8ft height - 9.2lbs | [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09B249MHJ?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | | [![MC TOMOUNT Canvas Yurt](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/319MrN85eSS._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B094CNK6F2?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | [MC TOMOUNT Canvas Yurt](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B094CNK6F2?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | - 2-3P - Canvas walls, PVC floor - 10ft diameter, 6.6ft height - .36.6lbs | [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B094CNK6F2?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | | [![MC TOMOUNT Folding Wood Stove](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41II3EJkp3L._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09NBSBPTF?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | [MC TOMOUNT Folding Wood Stove](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09NBSBPTF?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | - Titanium stove - 18×13 inches packed size - Rotating dampers - 6lbs | [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09NBSBPTF?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | | [![Camp Chef Alpine Stove](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41pkoDtxj1L._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002G55XXQ?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | [Camp Chef Alpine Stove](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002G55XXQ?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | - Heavy-duty steel - Damper, spark arrestor - Large cooktop - 73lbs | [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002G55XXQ?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | | [![OneTigris Tiger Roar Tent Stove](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41iO1jgfAlL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08PB9ZJYX?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | [OneTigris Tiger Roar Tent Stove](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08PB9ZJYX?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | - Stainless steel - 17.3×8.5×10.6 inches packed size - 21lbs | [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08PB9ZJYX?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | --- \[sta\_anchor id=”candle” /\] ### 7. Candle Heaters A final option for heating your tent is to use candles. Yes, *candles*. On average, a tealight candle can produce around 30 to 50 watts of heat (approximately 170 to 260 BTU). This is not enough to warm a large space or even bring the temperature of a tent up by much.  However, when camping in very cold temperatures, it can make a big difference to keeping you comfortable. Since other tent heaters are massive and bulky and require a large tent to be used safely, a candle heater is pretty much the only option for backpackers.  As an added bonus, candle heaters actually reduce condensation instead of creating more. So, how do you use a candle heater in a tent safely?  The brand UCO makes several cool candle heaters.  They hold the candle in a way so it is enclosed and will go out if tipped over. #### Best Candle Tent Heaters | Image | Product | Features | Price | |---|---|---|---| | [![UCO Mini](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41k1GhMaI7L._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08WDB3N94?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | [UCO Mini](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08WDB3N94?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | - Uses tealights - Glass chimney - Up to 450 BTU - 3.5oz | [Check on Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08WDB3N94?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | | [![UCO Original Candle Lantern, Powder Coated Red](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41Q59+KUWEL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000E7XF60?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | [UCO Original Candle Lantern, Powder Coated Red](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000E7XF60?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) | - Spring holds candle flame at ideal height - Glass chimney - One candle lasts 9 hours - Folds down to 4.25″ - Up to 5000 BTU - 6.4oz | [Check on Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000E7XF60?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1)[Check at REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fb%2Fuco%2Fc%2Fcandle-lanterns) | | [![UCO Candlelier](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41QmvbhXGZL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000F7DIHA?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1) | [UCO Candlelier](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000F7DIHA?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1) | - Holds up to 3 candles - Can use to heat food - Up to 5000 BTU - 18oz | [Check on Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000F7DIHA?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1) | --- \[sta\_anchor id=”battery” /\] ## What about Battery-Powered Tent Heaters? While there are some small battery-powered heaters, they simply aren’t practical for camping. They produce just a tiny amount of heat.  The battery will drain long before you feel any real warmth. Even beefy power stations don’t have enough capacity to run a space heater (also read: [Are power stations worth it for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/power-stations-worth-it-camping/)?) ### One possible battery-powered solution: heated shirts. Heated shirts are designed for motorcycle riders and runners.  They have a heating element in them which usually runs on a small battery. There are also some heated vests and long johns. Since most run off of a power bank, you won’t need a power source at camp like with an electric blanket. Expect anywhere from 2-8 hours of heating with a 20,000mAh power bank. As with an electric blanket, this isn’t going to heat your tent.  However, it solves the issue of feeling cold when going to bed.  Just snuggle with it in your sleeping bag to warm up. [![](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41eAA5kmRkL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09B37NK2M?tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1)You could snuggle with [this](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09B37NK2M?tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1) battery-powered heated vest shown above to warm up at night. \[sta\_anchor id=”safety” /\] ## Is It Safe to Use a Heater in a Tent? A lot of people are afraid to use tent heaters because of safety concerns.  True, most heaters are *not* safe to use in a tent.  But this doesn’t mean you should be scared to use a tent heater.  You just need to take precautions. The main ones you need to worry about are fire, electrocution, CO poisoning and oxygen depletion. \[sta\_anchor id=”fire” /\] ### Fire Risk With all types of tent heaters, there is a risk of fire.  If anything touches the heater or topples it over (which is pretty easy in a crowded tent!), the heater could start a fire. With electric heaters, you also have to worry about something blocking the airflow, causing it to overheat. **To prevent fires:** #### 1. Don’t Sleep with Your Tent Heater On With the exception of catalytic heaters and candle lanterns, tent heaters are not meant to be used for long periods of time. Don’t sleep with your tent heater on!  Rather, use the heater to take the edge off at night and in the morning or when you need to warm up after a nighttime bathroom trip. Remember, it’s your *gear* which should keep you warm at night, not your heater! #### 2. Leave Two Feet of Space around the Heater To make sure nothing accidentally falls on the heater or blocks it, leave *at least* two feet of space around the heater. (The Toledo Fire Department actually [recommends three feet](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/why-you-should-not-plug-space-heaters-into-power-strips-according-to-fire-departments/)!). That means no sleeping bags, pads, blankets, clothes, or anything near the tent heater! #### 3. Size Up Your Tent In order to leave enough space around your heater, you may need a larger tent. - **3 or 4-person tent** for one person plus a heater. - **4 or 6-person tent** for two people using a heater. - **8-person tent** for a family of four or five using a heater. - **10-person tent** for a family of 6 or 7 using a heater. #### 4. Use the Right Cord With electric heaters, it’s incredibly important that you use the right cord to connect it with the campground hookup.  Otherwise you might have an electrical fire or get electrocuted. **Use these guidelines:** - **Check the gauge of your extension cord:** Most extension cords and power strips are only made for low-wattage devices. For portable heaters, you’ll need a cord that can handle higher wattage. For example, a 15amp heater will likely need at least a 14 gauge cord. [This one](https://amzn.to/35X7ev1) is great. - **Only use cables rated for outdoor use:** Otherwise moisture or the elements can damage the cord and result in a fire. - **Check the cable before use:** Make sure there are no tears/cracks/damage before using. - **Don’t use power strips**. They simply can’t handle the high energy demands of the heater and it could cause a fire. - **Never use 2**–**wire to 3-wire adapter:** Two wire cords are not grounded and typically only meant for indoors. Never use one of these cords or an adapter so you can use one with a 3-pronged heater. - **Protect the connection point**: There are covers you can buy for keeping water and moisture from getting in where heater and extension cord meet. \*The Sockitbox will waterproof your cord connections. [Get it here](https://amzn.to/2Lj3Fr7). #### 5. Keep the Heater on a Platform Good tent heaters will automatically shutoff if they tip over. However, it’s not smart to rely on automatic controls for something as serious as fire safety.  You will want to: - **Put the heater on a platform.** This keeps it off the uneven ground. - **Make sure the platform is heavier than the heater.** This will keep it from becoming top-heavy and toppling over. - **Secure the heater to the platform.** A good amount of electrical or duct tape around the base of the heater will do the trick. --- \[sta\_anchor id=”electrocution” /\] ### Electrocution With electric heaters, you need to be careful that the heater doesn’t get wet.  You will want to make sure that the heater is elevated off of the ground in case water (such as from condensation) pools on the tent floor. Another thing that can happen is that water from outside the tent hits the cord.  It then run along the cord and into the tent, where it could touch the heater and cause an electrical shock. To prevent this, **make a drip cord.** That’s simply a little piece of string which hangs down from the cord outside the tent.  Water will drip down the cord instead of getting into the tent. --- \[sta\_anchor id=”co” /\] ### Carbon Monoxide Poisoning With electric tent heaters, there is no risk of carbon monoxide poisoning.  But, with any heater that works on combustion (butane, propane, wood…), carbon monoxide poisoning could occur. Carbon monoxide is a deadly gas that builds up in your bloodstream.  The gas is odorless and invisible, so you probably won’t realize that you are being poisoned until it is too late. Symptoms include headache, nausea, and shortness of breath (amongst others).  CO poisoning can cause permanent tissue damage or death. This is not a joke: hundreds of people die every winter because of heaters used indoors. **To prevent CO poisoning, follow these guidelines:** #### 1. Only Use Indoor-Rated Heaters Most gas and wood heaters are only rated for outdoor use.  This is because they don’t have as complete combustion so more CO is produced. Heaters rated for indoor use have more complete combustion, meaning less CO is produced.  However, less is not the same as none. Even indoor heaters still pose a risk of CO poisoning! #### 2. Ventilate the Tent The key to using a gas or wood heater safely in a tent is ventilation.  Most two-layer tents already have pretty good ventilation in the mesh walls.  However, if snow has built up around/over the tent, then CO gas won’t be able to escape nor will fresh oxygen be able to enter. Canvas tents tend to have very bad ventilation.  You’ll need to open any windows and probably keep the door cracked while using the tent. How much ventilation do you need?  You’ll have to check with the manufacturer’s specifications.  The 3,800 Little Buddy heater, for example, requires 4 square inches of ventilation. **Doesn’t Ventilating the Tent Defeat the Point of Using a Heater?** No. Gas and wood heaters produce a lot of heat quickly. The amount of heat lost through a small opening is less than the heat produced. You’ll still be warmer with the heater on, even with the tent cracked open for ventilation. #### 3. Use a Battery-Operated CO Detector CO detectors are fairly cheap. Get one and keep it in your tent while using a propane heater. The First Alert CO and smoke alarm is a reliable detector that works on batteries.  [Get it here](https://amzn.to/2P6aWfe). --- \[sta\_anchor id=”oxygen” /\] ### Oxygen Depletion In addition to CO emissions, you’ve also got to worry about oxygen depletion with gas heaters (this is not an issue with electric heaters).  This is a completely separate issue from CO poisoning. The reason is that burning fuel uses up oxygen in the space.  The oxygen levels can get to dangerously low levels. A good gas tent heater will have oxygen depletion sensors: if oxygen levels get too low, the heater will automatically shut off.   You can also get a low-oxygen detector.  Unfortunately, these are pricier than CO detectors.  Since the risk isn’t as high as with CO poisoning, you can probably skip this detector. **Note:** Some propane tent heaters won’t work at high altitudes because of the low-oxygen shutoff switch. --- Some resources for this article include: <https://www.snowys.com.au/blog/can-you-use-a-gas-heater-in-a-tent/> <http://www.electrical101.com/extension-cords.html> <https://www.askthebuilder.com/extension-cords-size-chart/> <https://www.sylvane.com/heater-buying-guide.html>, <https://candles.org/candle-science/> <https://tsapps.nist.gov/publication/get_pdf.cfm?pub_id=101159> Image credits: “[Tent camping at 15 degrees ain’t bad wit](https://www.flickr.com/photos/andyarthur/22635695133/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [andyarthur](https://www.flickr.com/people/andyarthur/), “[Interior of the Big Horn II Tent w/ Stov](https://www.flickr.com/photos/geojanitor/2538042705/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [geojanitor](https://www.flickr.com/people/geojanitor/), “[Catalytic heater keeps us warm](https://www.flickr.com/photos/moondance38/5159828810/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [sailn1](https://www.flickr.com/people/moondance38/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** cold, heaters --- ### [Here’s What to Do If You Get Lost in the Woods](https://momgoescamping.com/lost-in-the-woods/) **Published:** April 6, 2016 **Author:** Diane **Content:** When I was a kid, I once got lost in the woods when I was camping with my parents.  They never found out about the situation because I managed to find my way back and didn’t tell them I’d been lost (I didn’t want them to revoke my wandering privileges).  However, I now know that I am actually pretty lucky. I basically wandered around until I was able to find my way back – which is exactly what you should NOT do.  Before you go hiking or take your kids into the woods, please make sure to learn these rules about what to do if lost in the woods and ensure your kids know them too! ## Stop! Sometimes you think you are on the trail and suddenly realize that you have somehow gone off path.  Or maybe you saw something interesting off the trail and went to explore, and then you can’t find your way back.   Your instincts are to go “just a bit further” to find your way back.  This instinct is dangerous and can get you more lost. **If you are lost in the woods, then you need to STOP right away.** [Why is it so important to stop](https://momgoescamping.com/lost-in-the-woods/)?  Because we humans have a weird tendency to walk in circles.  As [this article](https://www.livescience.com/33431-why-humans-walk-circles.html) says, it is surprisingly hard to walk straight. Researchers even tested this by putting people in the desert and also in the woods.  All the subjects ended up walking in big circular motions.  Only when people have clear visual cues are they able to walk in straight lines. Consider that most dead hikers are found within one mile – if not 100 meters – from where they got lost and you’ll see why it is so important to just STOP.  As this old [guide from the US Forest Service](http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb5435268.pdf) says, *use your head, not your legs.* ## Assess the Situation Now that you’ve stopped walking and acknowledged that you are lost, you can assess the situation.  Ask yourself these questions: - Are you still on a trail? - What are the chances that someone else will come by, such as if you are in a popular hiking area? - What supplies do you have with you? - Can you recognize any landmarks, like a mountain ridge? - Does anyone know that you are hiking and is expecting you back? How long will it take before they realize that I am lost in the woods? - Is it almost night? What are the weather conditions? - How prepared am I for survival? ## Make a Plan How you answered the questions above will determine what you do next.  You have three basic options: *Try to find your way back, Signal for help,* or *Prepare for survival.* **Option 1: Try to Find Your Way Back** In most cases, it is probably best to just stay where you are until someone finds you.  But, if you are in a very secluded place and don’t think anyone will come by soon *or* you think you know where you are, then you can try to find your way back. Ideally, you have a compass.  Pick a direction and use your compass to walk in a STRAIGHT LINE in that direction.  If you don’t have a compass, you can help yourself walk straight by choosing a close-by landmark (like a tree) straight ahead and walking to it.  Once you get to the landmark, choose a new landmark and walk towards it. Make sure to leave a “bread crumb trail.”  For example, break some branches to mark your path.  There are two reasons for this.  The first one is that you will be able to find your way back to your starting point.  The second reason is because *anyone looking for you will be able to follow your trail.* **Option 2: Try Signaling for Help** When you go hiking in the woods, you should always have a whistle and matches with you (read this [list of things to pack when hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/gear-hiking-with-kids/)). The international hiker’s whistle code is: - 1 blast = STOP - 2 blasts = Come to me - 3 blasts = Come to me quickly! To use it when lost in the woods, blow your whistle three times.  Then wait and listen for voices.  If you don’t hear anyone, then blow three times again.  Repeat. Use your matches to create a signal fire. You’ll want it to be on a high place.  And remember that 3 is the international signal for help, so you’ll want to make three signal fires.  Read this post about [how to make a signal fire](http://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/survivalist/2014/07/survival-skills-3-ways-make-better-signal-fire). **Option 3: Prepare for Survival** Hopefully it won’t come to this, but you’ve got to be prepared to survive the night in the woods if you are lost. Before night sets (big emphasis on *before*), make sure you have everything you need for survival. The three survival necessities are: Water, Shelter, and Warmth. **Water:** You can go about 3 weeks without food, but only 3 days without water.  So water is going to be a big priority!  Hopefully you have some water in your pack.  If not, don’t panic – but also don’t start gulping down stream or river water.  It may look clean, but it could contain pathogens like giardia.  The last thing you want is to be lost in the woods *and* have diarrhea!   There are a few survival tricks for finding and filtering water in the woods – like making your own water filter out of charcoal, gravel, and leaves. **Shelter:** When a [New Zealand woman got lost in the woods overnight](http://abc7.com/news/woman-survives-night-in-wilderness-with-dirt-breast-milk-/714586/), so she buried herself in dirt and leaves to stay warm.  This tactic worked well for her, but wouldn’t have been so effective if it had rained.  Instead, it is better to make yourself a survival shelter. It is actually fairly easy to make a survival shelter, even if you don’t have any gear.  In this photo below, you can see the skeleton of an A-frame debris shelter.  After putting up the skeleton, you put a lot of leafy branches on top.  The leaves will help trap warmth in the shelter and keep you dry.  Add some more leaves inside and it will even be comfy. ![debris survival shelter](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/4127825308_c142dcdd7f_z.jpg "Skeleton of a debris shelter - Mom Goes Camping") **Staying Warm:** Building a good survival shelter will help you stay warm.  But there are other considerations too.  First off, you need to make sure you stay dry.  If your clothes are wet, take them off and get them dry.  Make a fire if you can, and gather enough branches to keep the fire going all night.  Otherwise, you’ll want to conserve your energy by resting as much as you can. Follow these rules when lost in the woods and you’ll be found quickly – and be found *alive*. ## Have you ever gotten lost in the woods while hiking? Image credits: “[Explorer](https://www.flickr.com/photos/sakeeb/6027869592/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [ ](https://www.flickr.com/people/sakeeb/)[sakeeb](https://www.flickr.com/people/sakeeb/) “[Skeleton of a debris shelter](https://www.flickr.com/photos/emathome/4127825308/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [ ](https://www.flickr.com/people/emathome/)[emily\_\*](https://www.flickr.com/people/emathome/)[ ](http://www.imagecodr.org/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking **Tags:** lost, navigation, safety --- ### [Can you use a jogging stroller as your main stroller?](https://momgoescamping.com/can-you-use-a-jogging-stroller-as-your-main-stroller/) **Published:** March 2, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Need a jogging stroller but don’t want to have two strollers? Here’s what you need to know about when it makes sense to use a jogging stroller as your everyday stroller. **Also read: [Best Strollers for Hiking and Rough Terrain](https://momgoescamping.com/all-terrain-strollers-hiking/)** ## Quick answer: If you don’t live in a city *and* have a massive car trunk, then you can get away with using a jogging stroller with a lockable front wheel as your main stroller.  However, life will be a lot easier if you have two strollers.  It’s definitely a bigger initial investment but pays off once you consider how often your strollers get used. ## Why You Probably Need Two Strollers ### Jogging Strollers Are Massive While some models are smaller than others, all jogging strollers are very large. They need to be to handle rough terrain or high speeds. The size of jogging strollers usually isn’t an issue when you use them *outside*. **But try taking a jogging stroller *inside* and you can encounter a lot of problems.** For example, I once had a sitcom-worth episode in a crafts store: My stroller bumped into a display mannequin and knocked it over.  That mannequin hit another, which hit another.  It was a HUGE mess! Sometimes it can even be difficult to fit a jogging stroller in supermarket aisles.  As one mom [said](https://www.reddit.com/r/fitpregnancy/comments/e1i4s6/stms_can_a_running_stroller_be_your_only_stroller/), “in some stores I have to pick and choose my route, and leave the stroller a few feet away from the thing I’m looking at.” And don’t count on being able to fit a jogging stroller inside a restaurant, bus, narrow elevators… ### They Might Even Be Too Big for Some Outside Places Most of the problems with jogging stroller size will be indoors.  But they are sometimes too large for outside spaces. **Here are some of the issues you’ll encounter outdoors:** - Pedestrians will get pissed off when they can’t pass by you on a sidewalk because your stroller is so big. - Cars park on the sidewalk and you can’t get your stroller through. Thus you have to walk in the street.  This has incited rage in me many a times! - Narrow streets in old parts of town. Especially in Europe, some cute little streets will be too small to fit your stroller. ### Getting a Jogging Stroller in Your Car Can Be a Pain If you frequently go places with car, the jogging stroller can be annoying.  Firstly, it can be too big to fit in your car. You may need to take the wheels off to get it in the trunk.  Jogging strollers are also heavy, so loading it can be a pain. It’s much easier to have a lightweight, small stroller that you take for car trips. ## Investing in Two Strollers Is Worth It… With my first kid, I was pretty broke and bought the cheapest used stroller I could find.  Surprise surprise, I hated the stroller and ended up carrying her in a sling most of the time. By the time I had my second child nearly 8 years later, my financial situation had improved but my core strength weaken (couldn’t handle the constant baby wearing anymore!).   I ended up buying two strollers: an off-road stroller and a lightweight umbrella stroller for when she got a bit bigger.  Here’s why I think it was worth it. ### You Will Use a Stroller Every Day Unless you are baby wearing or never leave the house, you will likely be using your stroller EVERY SINGLE DAY. You will use it to walk your screaming infant to sleep.  You will use it to run errands like grocery shopping.  And, if you live in a cold climate, you’ll also use it in winter over ice and snow. Considering how much use strollers get, it is really worth it to have strollers which make life easier. ### The Cost Isn’t As Bad As It Seems Jogging strollers can easily cost over $500.  Add another stroller to the equation and you are nearing $1,000. I used to think this was an insane amount of money to spend on a stroller. But, when you factor in how much use you’ll get out of the stroller, the price isn’t too bad. Let’s say you spend $900 on two strollers and are able to use them for 3 years: - $900/1,095 days = $0.82 per day. If you use the stroller longer (my 4 year old sometimes still gets pushed around) or have a second child, then the price breakdown is even lower. And don’t forget that brand-name jogging strollers have good resale value, so you’ll be able to recoup a lot of the investment. ## The Second Stroller Should Be Compact IMO, I only think it makes sense to get two strollers if they are significantly different.  There’s no point in buying a second stroller if the “regular” one is only a few inches smaller than the jogger. I have my “beast” stroller for hiking and rough terrain.  And, once my baby got big enough, I began using a compact stroller for trips around town, public transport, air travel, and anywhere else that a big stroller would be annoying. Since the compact stroller was cheap, it wasn’t really much of an investment. ### The Exception: You Run Fast Jogging strollers need to have a fixed front wheel to keep them stable at high speeds.  But it is very difficult to maneuver a jogger with a fixed wheel.  For this reason, many jogging strollers have front wheels which can be locked or unlocked. Note that **the wheel lock can sometimes fail on cheap joggers.**  For this reason, it’s recommended that you 1. Only use a fixed-wheel jogger when going at high speeds OR 2. Buy a very good quality jogger so the locking mechanism won’t fail If you are a really serious runner, then it might make sense to get a jogger with a lockable wheel, a (non-compact) stroller for everyday use *and* a compact stroller for when your kid gets bigger.  Yes, that is *three* strollers! ## Warning: You’ll Get Used to the Jogging Stroller’s Smoothness! I got used to being able to plow over tree roots, holes and other bumpy terrain with the all-terrain stroller. This was a problem when I switched to the lightweight stroller: I forgot to avoid bumps and my kid suffered a few bad jolts. Luckily I always strap her in or she would have gone flying! My wrists would also hurt if I’d lazily try to use the compact stroller on rough terrain. So please be cautious when switching to a lightweight stroller after using a beast: it simply doesn’t handle the same. ###### Image credit: “[Central Park in the afternoon, May 2009](https://www.flickr.com/photos/yourdon/3571194483/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [Ed Yourdon](https://www.flickr.com/people/yourdon/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** strollers --- ### [Waterproof Hiking Boots for Toddlers? (And Why You Shouldn’t Buy Them for Your Kid)](https://momgoescamping.com/waterproof-hiking-boots-toddlers/) **Published:** December 9, 2024 **Author:** Diane **Content:** You want to go hiking with your toddler, but you are worried that their little feet will get wet and cold if the conditions are muddy.  Even if the conditions are sunny, there’s always the chance that they step into a stream or puddle. Waterproof hiking boots seem like a good solution. But the truth is that your toddler does not need hiking boots or even waterproof hiking shoes.  Here’s why and what they can wear instead. ## Toddlers Shouldn’t Wear Hiking Boots [I stopped buying hiking boots for my kids](https://momgoescamping.com/do-kids-need-hiking-boots/) a while back.  They are expensive! This is particularly true for toddlers because their feet grow an average of ½ a size every three months. You’ll be lucky to get one season out of the boots.  Getting outdoors shouldn’t be cost-prohibitive. Even if you are okay spending money on hiking boots for your toddler, **really little kids shouldn’t wear them for these reasons:** - **The sole isn’t flexible.** Experts like those at the College of Podiatry recommend that toddlers wear flexible shoes to aid in walking development. - **Boots are heavy for little legs**. Put your toddler in boots and you’ll be hearing cries of “carry me” very soon! - **Toddlers can’t run or jump in bulky boots.** Those boots which were supposed to “protect” them actually cause them to get hurt when they fall. - **It’s annoying to carry a toddler in boots.** Almost all toddlers will need to be carried during some point of the hike. The boots make it hard to get them into a backpack carrier.  In front carriers, the boots end up banging into you. **Also read: [How Far Can Children Hike?](https://momgoescamping.com/how-far-can-kids-hike/)** [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/toddler-hiking-sandals.jpg "toddler hiking sandals - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/toddler-hiking-sandals.jpg)This is less scary because shes wearing sandals In boots shed be unstable and more likely to fall ## Hiking *Shoes* Are a Better Solution In most cases, your toddler will be absolutely fine hiking in their everyday sneakers.  If the trail is going to be very tough though, you might consider hiking shoes for your toddler. Hiking shoes have the traction of a boot but, because they are low-top, they aren’t as heavy. Good brands will also make sure the sole is more flexible than an adult hiking shoe. It will be easier for your child to run and jump in them. Toddler hiking shoes from good brands generally aren’t cheap though. :/  Unless you are very serious about hiking, they probably aren’t necessary. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/toddler-boots.jpg "toddler boots - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/toddler-boots.jpg)Their everyday sneakers are fine for this hike ## The Shoes Don’t Need to Be Waterproof Waterproof hiking shoes have an inner liner (such as Gore-Tex) which prevents water from getting into the interior of the shoe. The exterior of the shoe is made from a water-resistant material or has a coating on it. The waterproofing will keep feet dry from light rain, small splashes and mud.  This sounds great, but most hardcore hikers actually *don’t* like waterproof shoes. **Water can get in over the top:** If your child steps in 3 inches of water, the water will enter the shoe from over the top and fill the shoes. So forget about letting your kid stand in muddy puddles while wearing waterproof shoes! **Once wet, waterproof shoes take forever to dry.** The same technology that keeps water *out* will also trap water *in*. They can take hours to dry, and are heavier when wet because there’s no way for the water to exit. By comparison, non-waterproof hiking shoes or trail runners have lots of mesh areas where water will naturally drain out. ## What Shoes Should My Toddler Wear when Hiking? I repeat, your toddler is probably fine hiking in their everyday sneakers.  If you are worried about their feet getting wet though, then hiking sandals (warm weather) or rubber boots (cold weather) are better than boots. ### Hiking Sandals: Not only are they the most comfortable option for your child. They have the benefit of drying very quickly so it’s not a big deal if your child gets them wet during water play. There are also rubber hiking sandals which can be worn in the water. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/toddler-hiking-shoes.jpg "toddler hiking shoes - Mom Goes Camping")The Crocs are fine for the muddy trail but she still gets a ride over the puddle 🙂![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/toddler-boots-sandals-instead.jpg "toddler boots sandals instead - Mom Goes Camping")Hiking sandals dry quickly and are still comfortable to wear when wet So no worries if this little guy gets his feet in the water ### Rubber Wellington Boots: In colder temperatures or very muddy conditions, rubber boots are the only option which will actually keep your toddler’s feet dry. The downside is that most cheap wellies are very heavy and clunky, so it’s hard for your child to hike in them.  It will also be harder for you to get your toddler into a hiking carrier.  The brands [Bogs](https://amzn.to/42L7lIR), [Jan & Jul](https://amzn.to/3ORsFq9), and [Oaki](https://amzn.to/3OQyVP7) make fantastic lightweight rain boots for toddlers, but damn are they expensive! At least they are useful outside of just hiking though. There are also these [budget picks](https://momgoescamping.com/best-rain-boots-kids/). **Also read: [Best Rain Suits for Toddlers](https://momgoescamping.com/best-rain-suits-toddlers/)** ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/rain-pants-over-boots.jpg "Funny kid in rain boots playing in a rain park - Mom Goes Camping") ## Pro Tips ### 1. Get Hiking Socks for Your Toddler Unlike cotton socks which absorb water, hiking socks wick moisture from the feet. This way, if your child’s shoes get wet, it won’t be as big of a deal as if they were wearing cotton socks. And guess what? Hiking socks are a lot cheaper than hiking shoes for toddlers! ### 2. Have a Change of Shoes and Socks in the Car If driving to your hike, make sure you have a change of footwear in the car.  Then your toddler will have something comfy and dry to put on for the trip back. --- ###### Resources: <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2661351/>, <https://www.nct.org.uk/baby-toddler/your-childs-development/12-18-months/when-and-how-select-toddler-shoes>, <https://www.apma.org/files/ProductPDFs/Children%27s_FootHealth.pdf>, <https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/healthyliving/childrens-feet-and-shoes>, <https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-gear/hiking-gear/which-hiking-boots-will-keep-me-dry-during-stre-crossings/> ###### Image credits: “[nick eating an apple on a mossy log – \_M](https://www.flickr.com/photos/seandreilinger/100351066/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [sean dreilinger](https://www.flickr.com/people/seandreilinger/) “[IMG\_4496](https://www.flickr.com/photos/abbybatchelder/3665378117/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [abbybatchelder](https://www.flickr.com/people/abbybatchelder/), “[Happy Baby on the Trail](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nickay311/36011403026/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Nickay3111](https://www.flickr.com/people/nickay311/), “[IMG\_4477](https://www.flickr.com/photos/abbybatchelder/3666179842/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [abbybatchelder](https://www.flickr.com/people/abbybatchelder/), “[hiker](https://www.flickr.com/photos/cazen/2859273753/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [CaZen](https://www.flickr.com/people/cazen/) , ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking --- ### [8 Tips for Choosing a Headlamp for Camping or Backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/choosing-headlamp/) **Published:** November 6, 2025 **Author:** Diane **Content:** The first time I went backpacking as an adult, I figured that my regular flashlight would be fine. But I ask you: Have you ever tried going to the bathroom outside in the dark while holding a flashlight in your hands? I’ll leave the imagining of the logistics of digging a latrine, squatting, and toilet paper with one hand to you! On that first camping trip, I was really envious of my friend who had brought a headlamp with him. He was able to walk around, find gear in his pack, and (yes) pee with ease because his hands were free. So I decided to get myself a headlamp. Years have passed since I bought my first headlamp (a cheap Coleman CHT 4 which I still love). Since then, I’ve tested numerous models across dozens of camping trips in varied conditions – from humid summer nights in the Pacific Northwest to crisp autumn evenings in the Rockies. I’ve learned what features actually matter in real-world camping scenarios and which ones are just marketing hype. Whether you’re planning your first [family camping adventure](/camping-with-kids/) or you’re an experienced backpacker looking to upgrade your gear, here’s everything I’ve learned about choosing a headlamp that won’t let you down when you need it most. ## Why Every Camper Needs a Quality Headlamp Before diving into the buying tips, let me emphasize why a headlamp is one of the most essential pieces of [camping gear](https://momgoescamping.com/winter-camping-gear-checklist/) you’ll own. Unlike a flashlight, a headlamp keeps both hands free for critical tasks like: - Setting up your tent in fading daylight - Cooking dinner at the campsite - Reading bedtime stories to kids in the tent - Emergency first aid situations - Late-night bathroom trips (trust me on this one!) - Early morning packing before sunrise I’ve used headlamps in situations ranging from peaceful evening journaling sessions to that memorable night when I had to track down my daughter’s stuffed zebra on a dark trail. Each experience has taught me something new about what makes a headlamp truly reliable. ## Tip #1: Don’t Buy One Of Those Super-Cheap Headlamps! The first cheap headlamps I found (both online and in stores) were only about $10-$15. They all look something like this: [![cheap headlamp](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/cheap-headlamp.jpg "cheap headlamp - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/cheap-headlamp.jpg) While the price tag was attractive, I know from experience that **it doesn’t pay to buy cheap gear!** First, I’m going to let you in on a little secret. Those cheap headlamps actually come from drop shipping companies in China. They make loads of low-quality products, sell them in lots of around 100 at sites like AliExpress, and then buyers resell them at a huge markup. The cheap headlamp that you see above – it originally cost about $191 for a lot of 50. That comes out to $3.82 per headlamp! Here are the specific problems I’ve encountered with super cheap headlamps over the years: ### Problems with Ultra-Budget Headlamps: - **Really Big and Bulky:** With every step you take, you’ll feel that thing wobbling around on your head. I tried using one on a moderate hike and the constant shifting gave me a headache within an hour. - **You’ll Blow Through Batteries:** The batteries run out in just 3 hours on most of those headlamps! That means carrying extra batteries, which adds weight and bulk to your pack. - **Cheap, Crappy Plastic:** After one camping season, the elastic band stretched out and the hinge mechanism broke on mine. It might be okay to keep a $3 headlamp around the house in case of a power outage, but it is not something you want to rely on while camping in the wilderness. - **Inconsistent Light Output:** The beam flickers and dims unpredictably, which is disorienting when you’re trying to navigate at night. - **No Customer Support:** When these break (and they will), there’s nobody to contact for replacement parts or warranty claims. That said, you don’t need to spend $100+ on a headlamp either. There’s a sweet spot around $20-$40 where you’ll find reliable, durable options that will serve you well for years. ## Tip #2: Battery Life Matters More Than You Think I’m an ultra-minimalist backpacker. Partly out of personal style. Partly out of necessity. Because I have no car and go [camping with my young daughter](https://momgoescamping.com/guide-backpacking-kids/), I’ve got to carry almost all of the gear myself. I do not have extra space or strength for carrying around lots of extra batteries! The longer the batteries last, the fewer backup batteries you need to bring. **Long battery life is also a matter of safety.** What if you get lost and have to use your headlamp all night? What if an injury requires you to set up an emergency shelter after dark? You don’t want a headlamp that’s going to die on you when you need it most. Through my own experiences and talking with fellow campers, I’ve learned that battery life varies dramatically based on how you use your headlamp: - **High/spotlight mode:** Uses the most power but necessary for navigation and long-distance visibility - **Low/floodlight mode:** Perfect for camp tasks and can extend battery life 3-5 times longer - **Red light mode:** The most efficient setting, often lasting 50-100+ hours on a single set of batteries I personally wouldn’t get any headlamp with a battery run time of less than 20 hours on high mode. Some great headlamps have impressive run times. Take the Black Diamond Icon headlamp which runs for 75 hours on high mode and 175 hours on low mode! ![When hiking in the dark, the last thing you want is your headlamp battery to die on you!](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/hiking-dark-headlamp.jpg) **Pro Tip:** Always bring one spare set of batteries, even if your headlamp has exceptional battery life. I learned this lesson the hard way on a three-day trip when I accidentally left my headlamp on in my pack during a long hike. Having backup batteries saved that camping trip. ## Tip #3: Take Lumens with a Grain of Salt A headlamp with 160 lumens! It must be better than the headlamp with 60 lumens, right? It turns out that **lumens is really misleading.** The way that lumens is measured is with a device called an integrating sphere which measures the total amount of light put out by the bulbs or LEDs. But this doesn’t necessarily tell you how concentrated or smooth the light pattern will be. I’m not an expert on optics, but I can tell you from real-world testing that some of those super high-lumen headlamps don’t illuminate camp any better than my 40 lumen Coleman headlamp does! Here’s why: A headlamp with 200 lumens might spray light everywhere in an unfocused pattern, creating glare and not actually helping you see better. Meanwhile, a well-designed 60-lumen headlamp with quality optics can provide a cleaner, more usable beam that’s actually better for camp tasks. Think of it like speakers – higher watts doesn’t always mean better sound quality. The engineering and design matter just as much as the raw power numbers. ## Tip #4: Look At Beam Distance Instead Instead of obsessing over lumens, look at the beam distance. To do this, you’ve got to understand that there are two types of lighting modes on good headlamps: ### Floodlight Mode: This is a dimmer, wider setting that creates a soft wash of light. It’s perfect for illuminating things in close proximity – like when I write in my notebook in the tent after Isabel has gone to bed, or when I’m cooking dinner at the picnic table. The wide beam means you can see everything in your immediate area without having to constantly turn your head. Really cheap headlamps will just have a floodlight and not a spotlight. ### Spotlight Mode: This is a much more focused beam of light that reaches farther distances. There are situations when having a super-long beam spotlight is genuinely helpful – like that time I got out of the tent in the middle of the night to see what was running up and down the trees. (Turns out it was just squirrels having a party, but in the moment, my imagination was running wild!) A good spotlight is also essential for: - **Trail navigation:** Seeing trail markers and obstacles 50-100 feet ahead - **Wildlife awareness:** Spotting animals at a safe distance (especially important in [bear country](https://momgoescamping.com/bear-safety/)) - **Finding your way back to camp:** When you’ve wandered off to use the bathroom or collect firewood - **Emergency signaling:** A long-distance beam is more visible to search and rescue teams Each of these lighting modes will have its own beam distance rating. Just like with lumens, the beam distance rating can be misleading. However, **beam distance is a much better indicator of actual performance** than lumens alone. Plus, beam distance will tell you whether the headlamp is actually suited to your needs or not. For casual car camping where you’re mostly staying around your campsite, a 50-100 foot beam is plenty. For backcountry hiking or mountaineering, you’ll want 200+ feet of beam distance. ![Aside from being a beautiful picture, this shows you the difference in headlamp beam lengths](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/beam-length.jpg) ## Tip #5: The Red Light Setting is Absolutely Essential My Coleman CHT4 headlamp has a red light setting. My Petzl Tikka Pro does not. After using both of these headlamps extensively, I can tell you that **I will NEVER buy a headlamp without a red light setting again!** Here’s why the red light setting has become my most-used feature: ### Why Red Light is a Game-Changer: - **You don’t blind people when looking at them:** When camping with others, you can have conversations without constantly saying “sorry!” as your white light beam hits their eyes. This is especially important when [camping with kids](/camping-with-kids/) who are more sensitive to bright lights. - **The battery lasts incredibly long in this setting:** Red LEDs use a fraction of the power compared to white LEDs. I’ve gotten 80+ hours of continuous use on a single set of batteries in red light mode. - **You won’t wake everyone up in the tent:** Red light is much less disruptive when you need to get up in the middle of the night. My daughter barely stirs when I use red light, but the white light would wake her instantly. - **Preserves night vision:** Red light doesn’t interfere with your eyes’ natural night adaptation. This means when you turn off your headlamp, you can still see reasonably well in the ambient light. With white light, you’re essentially blind for several minutes after turning it off. - **Better for wildlife watching:** Animals are less spooked by red light, which has made our evening wildlife observations much more successful. You can also find some headlamps with green and blue lights. Green is sometimes preferred for hunting and fishing, while blue can help with tracking and map reading. For most camping purposes, though, red light is the most versatile colored option. ![The red light setting is awesome for when you don't want to wake people up in the tent!](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/IMG_4244-1024x683.jpg) ![The red light setting is also awesome for playing headlamp games](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/headlamp-games.jpg) **Real-World Example:** Last summer, I was organizing gear in the tent at 5:30 AM before a sunrise hike. Using red light, I could see everything I needed without waking my daughter who was sleeping peacefully next to me. That extra hour of sleep for her meant a much happier kid on the trail later! ## Tip #6: Get the Same Type of Batteries As Your Other Gear When shopping for a headlamp, pay attention to what type of batteries it uses. They will usually be either AA or AAA batteries (or occasionally rechargeable lithium-ion). **Make sure that all of your battery-operated gear uses the same type of batteries.** This way you only have to bring one type of spare battery and can swap the batteries between gear in a pinch. Here’s my battery strategy for camping trips: ### AA Batteries (My Preference): - More common across camping gear (flashlights, lanterns, GPS units) - Longer-lasting than AAA in most cases - Available everywhere, even in remote areas - Better cold-weather performance ### AAA Batteries: - Lighter and more compact - Good for ultralight backpacking setups - Works well for shorter trips ### Rechargeable Batteries: There are some headlamps with rechargeable lithium-ion or NiMH batteries. I’ve tested several of these and they’re increasingly practical for camping: - **Pros:** Environmentally friendly, cost-effective over time, consistent power output, can be recharged with solar panels or portable battery banks - **Cons:** Need to remember to charge before trips, limited recharge options in backcountry, typically heavier than disposable battery models For weekend car camping trips where you have vehicle access, rechargeable headlamps are excellent. For extended backcountry trips, I still prefer headlamps that can use standard disposable batteries as a backup option. ## Tip #7: Understanding Waterproof Ratings (IPX) When it starts raining at camp, we usually just retreat to our tent to [play Go Fish](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-board-games/) and watch the shadows of slugs sliming the rain fly. So, I don’t need a headlamp rated for severe water exposure. However, waterproofing is still important for several reasons. The waterproofness of headlamps is rated in IPX. Here’s what you actually need to know: ### IPX Rating Guide: - **IPX-4:** Splash-resistant from any direction. This is the minimum I recommend. It will withstand rain, splashing while washing dishes, and general moisture from humid conditions. - **IPX-6:** Protected against powerful water jets. Good for very wet conditions and heavy rain. - **IPX-7:** Can withstand being submerged in water up to 1 meter for 30 minutes. Essential for kayak camping, river crossings, or if you’re clumsy like me and drop things in water regularly. - **IPX-8:** Can be submerged beyond 1 meter. Only necessary for serious water sports or cave exploration. ![When going black water rafting inside of a cave, you need a headlamp with a high IPX rating!](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/black-water-rafting-headlamps-waterproof.jpg) **My Recommendation:** For general camping and backpacking, IPX-4 is perfectly adequate. I’ve used my IPX-4 rated Coleman in countless rainstorms without any issues. If you’re planning water-based activities or frequently camp in extremely wet conditions, invest in IPX-7. One often-overlooked consideration: even if your headlamp isn’t waterproof, keeping it in a dry bag or ziplock bag when not in use provides excellent protection. ## Tip #8: What Do You Need to See in the WORST CASE Scenario? My daughter and I don’t do anything too crazy. We hike to camp during the day, set up everything by nightfall, and are asleep fairly early. So, our basic 40-lumen, short-beam Coleman headlamp is good for most of our typical camping situations. But there was that time that Isabel left her stuffed zebra on the trail and we had to go on a “rescue mission” to find it. Hiking at night is not something that I would normally do (sprained ankles suck), but we had to save Zebra! I was really glad to have a headlamp with a longer beam so we could see the trail ahead and avoid tripping hazards. **When choosing a headlamp, think about realistic worst-case scenarios you might face:** ### Common Worst-Case Scenarios to Consider: - **Medical Emergency:** You need to hike out in the dark to get help or perform first aid with clear visibility - **Getting Lost:** You need a headlamp that can last through an entire night while you wait for daylight or rescue - **Weather Emergency:** Setting up emergency shelter in heavy rain or wind - **Unexpected Night Hike:** Underestimating hiking time and finishing in the dark (happens more often than you’d think!) - **Equipment Failure:** Your primary light source fails and you need your headlamp for extended use For example, if you’re hiking in remote areas far from trailheads, a long-beam, high-battery-life headlamp becomes essential. If you’re car camping at established campgrounds with facilities nearby, a basic model is perfectly sufficient. Think about these realistic worst-case scenarios based on your specific camping style, and you’ll be able to figure out which headlamp features you really need and which ones are just a luxury. ## Additional Features Worth Considering Beyond the core features I’ve discussed, here are some additional headlamp features I’ve found useful over the years: ### Tiltable Head: The ability to angle your light beam without tilting your entire head is surprisingly useful. When cooking or setting up gear, you can direct light exactly where you need it. This feature has saved me from blinding tent-mates countless times during conversations. ### Lock Mode: Some headlamps have a lock function that prevents accidental activation in your pack. I’ve had headlamps turn on during transit and drain batteries – now I always check for this feature. ### Battery Indicator: LED indicators that show remaining battery life eliminate the guessing game. You’ll know exactly when it’s time to swap batteries rather than being surprised by sudden dimming. ### Comfortable Strap Design: Look for wide, adjustable straps that won’t dig into your forehead or slip around. Some models include a top strap that helps distribute weight – especially useful for heavier, more powerful headlamps. ### Regulated Power Output: Better headlamps maintain consistent brightness as batteries drain, rather than gradually dimming. This might seem minor, but consistent light output makes a huge difference in usability. ## My Favorite Headlamps for Camping and Backpacking Based on years of personal use in various camping conditions, here are the headlamps I actually recommend to friends and family: ### \#1: [Coleman CHT 4 Headlamp](https://amzn.to/47ulle8) [![coleman headlamp](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/ch4T-1.jpg "coleman headlamp - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/ch4T-1.jpg) This was my first headlamp. After 3 years and many trips, I still use it regularly. I love it because it’s affordable, has 3 useful settings (high, low, red), and the lamp tilts so you don’t blind people when talking to them. The lumens rating is low but the light quality is genuinely excellent for camp tasks. **Features:** - Modes: High, Low, Red - Lumens: 40 lumens high, 23 lumens low - Beam Length: 104 feet - Battery life: 20 hours on high, 35 hours on low - Other: Red light setting, Pivoting head, 2 AA batteries - Best For: People who want a durable, functional camping headlamp on a very small budget [Buy Here](https://amzn.to/47ulle8) ### \#2: [Coast HL7 Focusing Headlamp](http://amzn.to/2bRNyjC) [![coast headlamp](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/coast_headlamp.jpg "coast_headlamp - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/coast_headlamp.jpg) This headlamp lacks a red light setting, which is my main complaint if you’re camping with other people and don’t want to wake them. But it makes up for this with its super-bright and impressive long-distance beam. I’ve used this for serious night hiking situations. **Features:** - Modes: High, Low - Lumens: 285 lumens high, 4 lumens low - Beam Length: 390 feet high, 13 feet low - Battery Life: 90 minutes high, 70 hours low - Other: Pivoting head, 3 AAA batteries - Best For: Backpackers who need to see far distances in the night, such as when night hiking or navigating difficult terrain [Buy Here](http://amzn.to/2bRNyjC) ### \#3: [Black Diamond Icon Headlamp](https://amzn.to/4nE0pG8) [![coleman_spot_headlamp](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/coleman_spot_headlamp.webp "coleman_spot_headlamp - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/coleman_spot_headlamp.webp) The Black Diamond Icon is one of the most popular headlamps among serious outdoor enthusiasts because it has features for virtually every outdoor use and is priced very well (at least compared to other headlamps with similar features). The only trade-off is that it requires 4 AA batteries, which makes it rather heavy and bulky – but that’s the price you pay for exceptional battery life and versatility. **Features:** - Modes: Spotlight (called “QuadPower”), Proximity (called “2x SinglePower”), Red, Strobe. PLUS the QuadPower, SinglePower and Red Light are Dimmable! - Lumens: 200 lumens full QuadPower, 4 lumens dimmed QuadPower, 35 lumens full SinglePower, 4 lumens dimmed SinglePower - Beam Length: 328 feet high, 115 feet low - Battery Life: 75 hours full QuadPower, 250 hours dimmed SinglePower - Other: IPX 7 waterproof rating, Lock Mode prevents light from turning on in pack, Battery Indicator shows remaining battery life - Best For: People who go backpacking or mountaineering regularly and are ready for a more serious, feature-rich headlamp [Buy Here](https://amzn.to/4nE0pG8) ### \#4: [Black Diamond ReVolt](https://amzn.to/47xlkEI) [![blackdiamond_revolt headlamp](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/blackdiamond_revolt-headlamp-e1762390491778.jpeg "blackdiamond_revolt headlamp - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/blackdiamond_revolt-headlamp-e1762390491778.jpeg) Here is another excellent headlamp by Black Diamond. What makes the ReVolt unique is that it has rechargeable batteries. You can recharge them by plugging the headlamp into your car’s cigarette lighter or with a solar charger (if you’re bringing one with you). You can also use standard AAA batteries with the ReVolt, which provides excellent flexibility. I also love that there is an indicator (as with the Black Diamond Icon) that tells you how much battery life is left – no more guessing! **Features:** - Modes: High (called TriplePower), Low (called SinglePower), Red, Dimmable - Lumens: 110 lumens high with Alkaline batteries, 25 lumens low with Alkaline batteries, 4 lumens dimmed - Beam Length: 70 meters high, 9 meters low - Battery Length: 70 hours high, 300 hours low - Other: IPX 4 water resistance, Rechargeable NiMH batteries or standard AAA batteries, Battery life indicator - Best For: People who are sick of worrying about replacement batteries for their headlamp and want an environmentally-friendly option [Buy Here](https://amzn.to/47xlkEI) ## Final Thoughts: Choose the Right Headlamp for YOUR Camping Style After testing dozens of headlamps over hundreds of camping nights, I’ve learned that there’s no single “best” headlamp for everyone. The ideal choice depends entirely on your specific camping style, destinations, and needs. For casual car campers and families with young kids, a simple, affordable model with red light and decent battery life (like the Coleman CHT 4) is absolutely sufficient. You’ll appreciate the simplicity and won’t miss features you don’t actually need. For serious backpackers and mountaineers tackling challenging terrain in remote areas, investing in a premium model with long beam distance, exceptional battery life, and advanced features (like the Black Diamond Icon) is worth every penny. **The key questions to ask yourself:** - How far from civilization will I be camping? - Will I need to navigate trails at night? - Am I camping alone or with others? - How many consecutive nights will I be camping? - What’s my realistic worst-case scenario? Answer these honestly, and you’ll quickly identify which features truly matter for your adventures. Remember, a headlamp is one of those pieces of gear that you’ll use on every single camping trip. It’s worth spending a bit more for quality and reliability rather than constantly replacing cheap models that fail when you need them most. Now that you’re equipped with this knowledge, you’re ready to choose a headlamp that will serve you well for years of camping adventures. Don’t forget to check out our complete [camping gear checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/the-ultimate-list-of-checklists-free/) to make sure you have everything you need for a safe and enjoyable outdoor experience! **Happy camping, and may your batteries never die at an inconvenient moment!** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** flashlight, headlamp --- ### [Snake Bite First Aid (with Infographic Instructions)](https://momgoescamping.com/snake-bite-first-aid/) **Published:** April 15, 2024 **Author:** Diane **Content:** The chances of getting bit by a snake are very low. You are actually are [more likely to be killed by a cow than a snake](https://momgoescamping.com/attacked-cows-camping/).  And, even if a venomous snake does bite you, it doesn’t always release venom into the wound. However, I’m not one of those people who ignores or dismisses potential disasters because “they are unlikely.” If you are going into the wild, it is *your responsibility* to be prepared for the worst – and that includes knowing how to treat a snake bite. I highly recommend that you PRACTICE this.  Just like how we did fire drills in school, practice ensures that you will know what to do in a real-life situation, even if your adrenaline is pumping out of fear. --- **Want this information in PRINTABLE format?** (and support my website in the process? :)) **[Get my Camping Cheat Sheets](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets/firstaid)** ![camping cheat sheets](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/interior-pages.jpg "interior pages - Mom Goes Camping") They have 42 pages of useful, illustrated information covering tarp shelters, knots, fire lays, wilderness first aid, and more.  I’ll even give you 50% off because first aid is so important. [**Get the Cheat Sheets for 50% off here**](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets/firstaid) --- ## Snake Bite First Aid Treatment Keep reading for more detailed instructions. [![snake bite first aid](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/snake-bite-first-aid-small.jpg "snake bite first aid small - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/snake-bite-first-aid.jpg) --- ### 1. Get out of the danger area. Snakes do sometimes bite twice, and the same snake can bite two (or more) different people.  So, if the snake hasn’t left the area, you need to get away from it ASAP. Take a picture if possible. A picture can help ID the snake for treatment. However, only take a picture of the snake if you can do so from a safe distance. ### 2. Keep the patient still and calm. Contrary to common belief, snake venom does not travel through the circulatory system.  Instead, it travels through the lymph system.  The lymph system doesn’t have a pump (such as the heart) to move it. Instead, muscle movements move lymph fluid.  This is why it is so important for the snake bite victim to stay as still as possible. The pulsing of arteries can also move lymph fluid, so they should stay calm. ### 3. Remove tight items. Venomous snake bites swell up very quickly. This is why it’s important to remove any tight objects, such as rings or watches, from the victim. Otherwise these will cut off circulation and possible cause tissue damage. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/snake-bite-picture-of-swelling.jpg "snake bite picture of swelling - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/snake-bite-picture-of-swelling.jpg)*A venomous pygmy rattlesnake bit this person on the finger Look how much it swelled up* ### 4. Draw a circle around the snake bite. Write time next to the circle. This is important for medical professionals so they know the exact location of the bite and how much time has passed. ### 5. Apply a wide bandage. Almost all snakes bites are on the hands (50.3%) or on the leg/foot (39.2%). So, the instructions for bandaging a snake bite are for these extremities. - You’ll need a long, stretchy material. An elastic bandage works well. You can also use a cut-up shirt. - Start from the foot or hand of the affected limb. - Wrap upwards. - Cover as much of the limb as possible. - The wrap should be snug but not so tight it restricts blood flow (this can result in venom getting trapped in one area and causing tissue damage). You should be able to easily put two fingers underneath the bandage. ### 6. Apply splint to immobilize the limb. As mentioned in step three, muscle movements will cause snake venom to move throughout the body. You need to immobilize the affected limb to prevent this. You will need to immobilize the joints above and below the bite area.  You can do this by putting a stick along the limb and wrapping a bandage around it. - For a bite to the forearm, for example, you will need to immobilize the wrist and elbow. Ideally, they should be in a gravity-neutral position at heart level. - For bites to the lower leg or thigh where the victim doesn’t need to walk, you can bind both legs together. ### 7. Get help. **Ideally, the snake bite victim shouldn’t move at all.**  If help can get to the victim relatively fast, they should wait where they are, staying as still as possible, until a rescue team comes and carries them out on a stretcher for treatment.  Or, if with a group, the group can improvise a stretcher to carry the victim out. However, if the victim is somewhere remote and help can’t get to them quickly, they will have to walk somewhere to get help. In this case, the victim should try to move the affected limb as little as possible and stay calm to slow the spread of venom. ## DO NOT These methods do *not* work and can cause the patient further harm. - Try to suck the venom from the wound. - Cut the wound. - Apply a tourniquet. Or other constrictive bandage. - Give painkillers. - Apply ice. - Apply mud, charcoal, or anything else to “absorb” the venom. - Wash the wound. The venom on the skin may be needed to ID the snake. ## Do Snake Venom Extractors Work? [![snake venom extractor in use](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/snake-venom-extraction.jpg "snake venom extraction - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/snake-venom-extraction.jpg) Virtually all research shows that venom extractors, like the one sold by Sawyer, do not work to remove snake venom.  However, some research does show that they may be effective if applied within 5 minutes and left on for at least 30 minutes. An extractor should never be used instead of getting treatment though. If bit by a snake and you aren’t 100% certain it isn’t venomous, get medical help immediately. --- ######  Sources: <https://www.aafp.org/pubs/afp/issues/2002/0401/p1367.html>, <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/333057900_Consecutive_envenomation_of_two_men_bitten_by_the_same_coral_snake_Micrurus_corallinus>, <https://www.scielo.br/j/jvatitd/a/LkG6Yjxsr66qr7PYY7kZQkL/>, <https://ejfs.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s41935-018-0040-3>, <https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1580/06-WEME-OR-080R1.1>, <https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0735675720307774>, <https://www.mdanderson.org/publications/focused-on-health/exercise-and-the-lymphatic-system.h20-1592991.html> ###### Image credits: <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Fer-De-Lance_Snake_Bite.jpg> by [Petebethune](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Petebethune "User:Petebethune"), [Creative Commons](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Creative_Commons "w:en:Creative Commons") [Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.en "creativecommons:by-sa/4.0/deed.en") license. “[072](https://www.flickr.com/photos/16005676@N08/7081580251/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [danny.fitzgerald](https://www.flickr.com/people/16005676@N08/), “[notice bruising on upper arm](https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruceandsusan/17489135142/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [thelazydba](https://www.flickr.com/people/bruceandsusan/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety --- ### [How to Protect Your Kids from Getting Lost When Hiking Backcountry](https://momgoescamping.com/kids-getting-lost-hiking/) **Published:** March 31, 2016 **Author:** Diane **Content:** How to Keep Your Kids Safe and Found While Hiking: A Parent’s Complete Guide After eight years of taking my kids on backcountry adventures—from easy nature walks when my daughter was a toddler to challenging multi-day hikes now that she’s older—I’ve learned that hiking with children is actually safer than many activities we do at home. While at home we constantly worry about traffic, playground injuries, and screen time, the wilderness offers a controlled environment where the biggest risk is often getting separated from your group. But that one risk—kids getting lost while hiking—is serious enough that every parent needs a solid prevention and response plan. Here’s everything I’ve learned through years of family hiking, wilderness first aid training, and yes, a few close calls that taught me valuable lessons. ## Why Kids Get Lost on Trails (And How It’s Different From Getting Lost at Home) Before diving into prevention, it’s important to understand how children get lost in the wilderness. Unlike urban environments with landmarks and people to ask for help, trails can look remarkably similar, especially to young eyes. Kids might: - Take a “quick” detour to investigate something interesting - Fall behind the group and take a wrong turn at a trail junction - Run ahead and miss a trail marker or change in direction - Step off-trail for a bathroom break and lose their bearings The good news? With proper preparation, these situations are entirely preventable. ## Essential Safety Tool #1: Whistles for Everyone Every person in your hiking group—adults and children—should carry their own whistle. Not the cheap plastic ones from the dollar store, but a real emergency whistle that works when wet. I personally use the Storm Safety Whistles after testing several brands during a wilderness first aid course. Here’s the critical part: your kids need to understand that the whistle is **only** for emergencies. I tell my kids that blowing the whistle unnecessarily will scare away wildlife we might otherwise see—this motivates them to save it for real emergencies. **Teach the universal hiker’s whistle code:** - **1 blast** = STOP (freeze where you are) - **2 blasts** = Come to me (safe to approach) - **3 blasts** = EMERGENCY – Come quickly! Practice this at home until it’s second nature. During our pre-hike safety talks, I quiz my kids on the whistle codes—it’s become as routine as buckling seatbelts before driving. ## Map Skills: Starting Early Builds Confidence Even if your child is too young to read topographic maps, showing them your route before every hike builds crucial spatial awareness and safety habits. ![daughter reading map on hike](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/isabel-reading-a-map.jpg) For younger kids (ages 3-6): Point out major landmarks, the trail route, and where you’ll be camping or returning to the car. This isn’t about map reading skills—it’s about building familiarity with navigation concepts. For older kids (ages 7+): Give them their own copy of the map and a basic compass. Teach them to identify: - North on both the map and compass - Major trail junctions - Prominent landmarks like peaks, lakes, or distinctive rock formations - The difference between staying put when lost versus returning to a known location when temporarily separated **Key Safety Rule:** If separated but not lost (meaning they know where they are on the trail), older kids should return to your last known location—usually camp or the trailhead—and wait. If truly lost, they should always stay put. ## Setting Clear Boundaries: The “Sight and Sound” Rule Before starting any hike, establish clear rules about how far ahead or behind kids can travel. This boundary changes based on: - **Child’s age and maturity** - **Trail difficulty and visibility** - **Weather conditions** - **Your group size** My personal rule: younger kids (under 8) stay within sight range, older kids can go ahead but must remain within voice contact. At trail junctions, everyone stops and waits for the group to reunite. **Important:** Make sure your kids understand that backcountry rules are different from home rules. At home, they might have more freedom to explore independently, but on trails, staying together is non-negotiable. ## Off-Trail Exploration: Making It Safe Kids are naturally curious about interesting rocks, plants, or wildlife they spot just off the main trail. Rather than forbidding all off-trail exploration (which kills the joy of discovery), make it safe: ![my daughter hiking off trail to get berries](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/isabel-off-trail.jpg) **Off-Trail Safety Rules:** - Always ask permission before leaving the trail - An adult must accompany younger kids (under 10) - Keep the main trail visible at all times - If visibility to the trail is lost, use your compass bearing to return - Set a time limit (usually 10-15 minutes max) For older, more experienced kids, I sometimes allow short solo explorations if they stay within voice range and follow strict check-in protocols. ## What to Do If Lost: The STOP Protocol This is the most critical information your kids need to know. Don’t turn this into a scary lecture—make it a calm, matter-of-fact conversation during a snack break. **If lost, kids should follow the [STOP protocol:](https://momgoescamping.com/lost-in-the-woods/)** - **S**top moving immediately - **T**hink about how they got there - **O**bserve their surroundings for landmarks - **P**lan their next action (which is to stay put and signal for help) **Signaling for Help:** 1. Blow whistle three times, then listen for 30 seconds 2. If no response, wait 5 minutes and repeat 3. Continue this pattern—it preserves energy and makes you easier to locate 4. During daylight, use bright clothing or a mirror to signal 5. At night, use a flashlight in the same 3-blast pattern **Critical Point:** Emphasize that staying put makes them much easier to find. Most lost hikers are found within a few hundred yards of where they first realized they were lost—but only if they don’t keep wandering. ## Age-Appropriate Emergency Packs Once kids are old enough to hike ahead of you (usually around age 8), they should carry their own emergency supplies. This isn’t about loading them down with gear—it’s about ensuring they have what they need if separated from the group. **Essential items for kids’ emergency packs:** | Item | Purpose | Age-Specific Notes | |---|---|---| | Water (16-24 oz) | Hydration for 24 hours | Teach rationing—small sips, not guzzling | | Emergency whistle | Signaling for help | Practice the 3-blast pattern regularly | | Headlamp + extra batteries | Visibility and signaling at night | Show how to use SOS signal (3 short, 3 long, 3 short) | | Emergency blanket/bivvy | Staying warm and dry | Practice setting up during camping trips | | High-energy snacks | Maintaining energy and morale | Choose foods they actually like eating | | Basic first aid supplies | Treating minor injuries | Band-aids, antiseptic wipes, any personal medications | ## Teaching Wilderness Survival Skills Through Play The best way to teach kids survival skills is to make it fun. During camping trips and day hikes, turn survival education into games and challenges. ### Water Safety and Procurement Teach kids that natural water sources can contain harmful bacteria and parasites. If their emergency water runs out: - Look for flowing water rather than stagnant pools - If you have a portable filter (like the[ Sawyer Mini](https://momgoescamping.com/sawyer-mini-water-filter-review/)), show them how to use it - In dire emergencies, boiling water for 3-5 minutes makes it safe to drink **Practical Exercise:** During car camping trips, have kids practice using water filters and identifying good vs. poor water sources. ### Staying Warm and Dry Hypothermia is a serious risk, even in summer. Kids lose body heat faster than adults, so staying warm is critical. **Fire Building Skills:** I started teaching my daughter fire safety at age 3—not lighting fires, but understanding fire safety and preparation. By age 8, most kids can safely build and maintain a fire with supervision. **Fire Building Steps for Kids:** 1. Clear a safe area (3-foot radius of bare ground) 2. Gather tinder, kindling, and fuel wood *before* lighting anything 3. Build a “tinder nest” with the finest materials 4. Use the “teepee method” for stacking kindling 5. Always have water nearby before lighting **Alternative Warmth:** If fire isn’t possible, teach kids to: - Put on all available layers - Stay dry using their emergency shelter - Do light exercises to generate body heat - Eat high-energy snacks to fuel their internal furnace ### Emergency Shelter = “Fort Building” Most kids already love building forts—they just don’t realize they’re learning survival skills! During hikes, take time to build “forts” that could actually serve as emergency shelters. **Quick Shelter Types to Practice:** - **Lean-to:** Large branch against a tree, smaller branches leaning against it - **A-frame:** Two forked sticks with a ridge pole, covered with branches - **Rock shelter:** Using large rocks as wind breaks - **Natural shelters:** Large fallen logs, overhanging rocks, dense tree canopies ## Prevention Through Communication The best safety tool is constant, clear communication. Throughout every hike: - Do regular headcounts, especially at trail junctions - Establish check-in times (“Everyone stop and group up every 30 minutes”) - Designate an adult “sweep” to stay at the back of the group - Use the buddy system for older kids - Watch for signs of fatigue, which leads to poor decision-making ## Technology as a Backup (Not Primary) Safety Tool While I believe in teaching traditional navigation and survival skills, technology can provide an extra safety layer for older, more independent hikers: - **GPS devices or smartphone apps** (with offline maps downloaded) - **Personal locator beacons (PLBs)** for serious backcountry trips - **Two-way radios** for larger groups or dense forest where cell service is spotty **Important caveat:** Technology fails, batteries die, and devices break. Never rely solely on technology—it should supplement, not replace, basic navigation and survival skills. ## Age-Specific Guidelines Safety strategies should evolve as kids develop: **Ages 3-5:** Stay within arm’s reach, focus on basic safety rules, make it fun with games and exploration **Ages 6-8:** Can go 10-20 yards ahead on clear trails, begin learning map basics, carry their own small pack with snacks and water **Ages 9-12:** Can hike ahead within voice range, should carry emergency supplies, begin learning wilderness skills through hands-on practice **Ages 13+:** Can take more independent roles, should be competent with map and compass, ready for overnight wilderness experiences ## What to Do If the Worst Happens Despite all precautions, if a child does go missing: **Immediate Actions (First 15 minutes):** 1. Stop and stay calm—panic helps no one 2. Blow your whistle in the 3-blast pattern 3. Shout the child’s name loudly 4. Check obvious places nearby (just off trail, behind large rocks/trees) **If not found quickly:** 1. Mark your current location with something visible (bright clothing, reflective gear) 2. Send other adults to check the last known location and obvious routes 3. Contact emergency services (911) or park rangers immediately 4. Provide detailed information: child’s age, clothing, when/where last seen, their level of outdoor experience **Remember:** Most lost children are found quickly and safely. Stay calm, think systematically, and trust in the preparation you’ve done. ## Building Confidence Through Experience The goal isn’t to make kids afraid of the wilderness—it’s to make them competent and confident outdoors. Start with easy day hikes close to home, gradually building skills and independence as they prove ready for more challenges. Every family’s comfort level is different, and that’s okay. What matters is that you’re spending time outdoors together, teaching valuable life skills, and creating positive memories that will last a lifetime. The wilderness has taught my family more about trust, responsibility, and resilience than any classroom ever could. With proper preparation and respect for the environment, hiking with kids isn’t just safe—it’s one of the most rewarding experiences a family can share. **Remember:** The best safety equipment is knowledge, preparation, and good judgment. Start building these skills now, and your kids will thank you for a lifetime of confident outdoor adventures. --- *Have you had experiences keeping kids safe on hiking trails? What strategies have worked best for your family? Share your tips in the comments below—we all learn from each other’s experiences!* ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety **Tags:** hiking --- ### [Best Toys to Bring Camping (which Will Actually Help Your Kids Connect with Nature)](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-toys/) **Published:** February 17, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Every parent is slightly terrified of their kids getting bored because that’s when the nagging and whining starts.  Hence the reason so many parents feel inclined to bring a zillion toys on family camping trips.  Or they guiltily bring an iPad with a few TV shows downloaded on it “just in case” the kids get really bored or annoying. I completely understand the worry about how you’ll entertain your kids outdoors.  And, yes, some camping toys can really improve your trip.  But bringing too many toys might actually *ruin* your camping trip. To ensure you and your kids have a good time, here are the best toys to bring camping — all of which will help them connect with nature — and why you might not want to bring any toys at all. ## Why I Don’t Bring (Many) Toys for My Kids When Camping Of course I bring some toys for my kids camping.  My daughters wouldn’t be able to sleep without their favorite stuffed animals.  But it’s really important to just bring a few toys. As I talk about in this post about [camping activities for kids](https://momgoescamping.com/activities-entertain-kids-camping/), **boredom is good for kids and stimulates creativity**. If you allow kids to get bored, they will come up with their own games.  Sticks become building blocks.  Leaves are turned into arts and crafts projects. Rocks sticking out of the ground become nature’s hopscotch. By contrast, **if you bring a lot of toys, your kids will want to play with those toys.** They will revert to what they know instead of interacting with nature and coming up with ways to play with what’s around them. ### Other reasons not to bring toys camping In addition to stimulating creativity and encouraging interaction with nature, some other reasons not to bring toys camping are: - **More stuff = more stress.** You will end up spending all your time organizing toys, putting things away, and looking for lost Lego pieces on the ground. - **Kids will like their toys more once they’ve had a break from them.** My daughters get bored of their at-home toys quickly. When we come back from a camping trip, the toys are new and exciting again. They play for *hours* with the toys – which means I get to relax. - **No begging for screen time.** If screens are available, my kids want nothing else. But, if screens aren’t possible (because I didn’t bring them or there simply is no electricity where we are camping), they don’t whine for screen time at all.  It’s kind of miraculous really. ### Tips - **Have a set of toys which is *only* used for camping.** It will help keep those toys exciting, almost like your kid got brand-new toys for each camping trip. - **Bring rain gear!** Then your kids can play outside regardless of how bad the weather is. Here are my picks for **best rain pants.** ## Best Toys to Take Camping The best camping toys are *open-ended*, meaning they can be used in multiple ways.  Good camping toys will also help your kids interact with nature. Further, you might want to choose toys which your kids can’t use at home for practicality reasons (like an archery set when you live in the city and don’t have a yard).    Below are some of the best camping toys for kids which meet these requirements. ### 1. Buckets and Shovels These are the toys which my kids use most when camping.  Both young and older kids will find ways to use them.  Such as: - Gathering cool rocks, acorns, etc. - Making sandcastles or dirt towers - Catching tadpoles - Home for snails and worms - Scooping water from one bucket to another ### 2. Specimen Collection Cups Here’s another favorite of my kids.  My daughters love to collect various nature things.  Give them the specimen collection cups, send them outside, and see what cool things they come back with.   My 10-year old still has a dead stag beetle she found in display!  You can also get cups that have air holes on the lids so they can collect live insects and other tiny creatures. [![outdoor explorer kit](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/outdoor-explorer-kit.jpg "outdoor explorer kit - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/outdoor-explorer-kit.jpg) The outdoor explorer kit shown above ([buy here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QLM375B/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07QLM375B&linkId=1d257a46b6afefb498f66370d94867fa)) has a couple specimen cups included. ### 3. Outdoor-Themed Board Games Board games are a good backup in case the weather is really terrible.  There are some cool outdoor-themed games that will go along with the camping experience, such as [Photosynthesis](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074K5W5N5/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B074K5W5N5&linkId=c6919b6b3574195d57f7f5fe8b09f02d) or [Shadows in the Forest](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074K5W5N5/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B074K5W5N5&linkId=c6919b6b3574195d57f7f5fe8b09f02d), which is actually played in the dark.  Check out the [best camping-themed board games](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-board-games/) here. [![shadows in the forest board game](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/shadows-in-the-forest.jpg "shadows in the forest - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/shadows-in-the-forest.jpg) ### 4. Rope Rope is one of the most useful multi-purpose items to bring camping.  My kids use it all the time when coming up with games, tying random things together, making teepee shelters, or even arts and crafts projects. ### 5. Tarp When you get tired of having half the kids from the campground inside your tent (letting the bugs in and getting dirty feet all over!), send them off to make their own tent.  They will need to tie some rope (see #4) between two trees and suspend the tarp over it. ### 6. Flashlights Make sure your kids have their own flashlights to play with.   Flashlight tag is an old classic game that kids still love.  Kids will also have fun making shadow puppets or simply putting the flashlight in their mouth and watching their cheeks glow.  Expect your kids to drop the flashlights, so choose a sturdy one! ### 7. Bug Net It also doubles as a fish-catching net when you are near a pond or lake. Make sure you talk to your kids about not harming animals before you give them the net.  I like ones with telescoping handles because they are easier to pack, especially on backpacking trips or day hikes. ![bug net with telescoping handle](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/bug-net-telescoping-handle.jpg "bug net telescoping handle - Mom Goes Camping") The bug net above has a telescoping handle which extends from 7″ to 34 inches.  [Get it here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071XMG1ZJ/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B071XMG1ZJ&linkId=88291e4e1d1f5c3c62a8a389b4396370). ### 8. Binoculars Depending on their age, you might want to give them a bird-watching field guide to go with the binoculars. ### 9. Jenga or Dominos These games are particularly good for camping because the pieces also serve as building blocks for making mini forts, cages, huts, etc. ### 10. Slack Line Strap the slack line between two trees and start working on your balance.  This is also a good way for your kids to make friends; other kids from the campground will come over to try out the slack line!  On the flip side, if you don’t want to be swarmed by other people’s kids, you might not want to bring this. 🙂 [![camping slack line](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/IMG_5617-e1573735984669.jpg "camping gjipe - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/IMG_5617-e1573735984669.jpg)*My daughter walking a slack line during a camping trip* ### 11. Archery Set This falls into the category of “camping toys you can’t normally use at home.” At least my kids can’t because of our tiny yard.  Just be sure to set up the archery practice somewhere FAR away from other campers! ### 12. Kite Some campgrounds have large, open areas for recreation.  Likewise, there might be a big open field nearby if you are camping in the lowlands. These are perfect for flying kites. ### 13. Bowling Set My daughter invented her own version of bowling by lining up stacks of rocks and knocking them over with another rock.   But you can also buy bowling sets to play.  As an added bonus,  all the running back and forth to set up the pins will tire out your kids.  They might even fall asleep early so you get some alone time! ### 14. Water Toys If there will be water – a lake, pond, creek, stream…- near the campground, make sure you bring some water toys. Young kids have fun with buckets in the water. Older kids will have a blast with an inflatable paddleboard or raft. ![camping water toys](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/2647668304_89ff69bf2b_c.jpg "camping water toys - Mom Goes Camping") ### 15. Field Guides Choose a field guide which is appropriate for your kid’s age.  Some have activities in them so your kids can keep track of their sightings. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/nature-on-the-trail.jpg "nature on the trail - Mom Goes Camping")](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1635861977/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=1635861977&linkId=627acdd7634de970cc8eddda8d8b950a) Nature on the Trail book is an interactive field guide for kids 4-8 with activities, checklists, and stickers. Get it [here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1635861977/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=1635861977&linkId=627acdd7634de970cc8eddda8d8b950a). ### 16. Notebook and Arts & Crafts Supplies My family never goes camping without a notebook for each person.  We also bring some basic arts and crafts supplies like tiny scissors (in my multi-tool) and tape. We use the supplies for drawing things we find in nature, pressing flowers, doing leaf rubbings, making “dolls” from leaves, and more. ### 17. Dump Trucks My girls never played with dump trucks but lots of parents say that dump trucks are by far the best camping toys. ### 18. Walkie Talkies I played with these as a kid and it’s fun to watch my daughters play with them now. ### 19.  Deck of Cards For really rainy days when we don’t feel like playing outside, a deck of cards is great.  There are a zillion different games you can play with one deck of cards. Very young kids can play easy games like Go Fish and older kids can play Crazy 8’s, Rummy, etc.   You can also make up games like stacking the cards into towers. ### 20. Magnifying Glass or Pocket Microscope A magnifying glass just doesn’t cut it for my nerdy daughter. We love looking at bits of flowers, leaves or dead bug legs under the microscope.  The [brand Carson](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000Z3A8UY/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B000Z3A8UY&linkId=7fd3369bdc136142bd95d9597f904504) makes good ones that are really cheap (under $15!). ### 21. Telescope This is especially great when camping during a full moon.  It’s also a good way to become friends with the neighbors because they are sure to ask for a view if they see you using the telescope at camp. ### 22. Camera Tweens and teens aren’t as creative as little kids, so they can easily get bored when camping (especially if there aren’t any kids their age around).  Give them a camera and they will have fun taking photos.  Just try not to cringe when half of their photos end up being selfies. ### 23. Your Real Camping Gear Some articles recommend buying fake versions of real camping gear for your kids to play with – like a fake camping stove or fake flashlight.  I personally think this is a bit ridiculous.  Why would you spend $30 on a fake lantern when you can buy a real one for $15? Just let them play with the real camping gear. For example, one our first camping trip, my daughter played for HOURS with our camp cook set.  Yes, I had to clean all the “food” (leaves and sticks) out before putting real food in them, but it was worth it. If you really don’t want to give your kids your camping gear, then some fake camping gear might be worth buying – like a fake campfire so they don’t want to play with the real one. But you’ll probably want to keep these toys at home; then you kids can play camping when they get back from the trip. ### 24.  Sports Toys and Outdoor Games Finally, there are dozens of different sports games your kids can play while camping.  You don’t even need equipment if you are creative – like using a stick as a baseball bat to whack a ball made of rope.  Or, bring some equipment or games like: - Frisbee - Jump rope - Balls - Horseshoes - Molkky - Kubb - Badminton - Hacky sack **What toys or games do you bring camping for your kids? Let us know in the comments.** --- Image credits: “[Luca and Alec play jigsaw puzzles outsid](https://www.flickr.com/photos/bigyahu/1509595605/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [bigyahu](https://www.flickr.com/people/bigyahu/), “[lu and grandpa play in creek 3](https://www.flickr.com/photos/27205065@N03/2647668304/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [wonderweiss](https://www.flickr.com/people/27205065@N03/), Resources: <https://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/the-joy-of-camping/> <https://expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/tips-for-camping-with-young-kids.28122/> <https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/camping/2064948-Toys-to-take-camping> ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** activities, toys --- ### [Best Portable Solar Panels for Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/best-portable-solar-panels-camping/) **Published:** October 12, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** While I’m a big fan of digital detoxing, there are plenty of good reasons to bring a portable solar panel camping, like charging your phone, [emergency communication devices](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-communication-devices/), GPS, headlamp batteries, photo equipment… Not all portable solar panels are suited for camping though. The ones reviewed here are all compact enough to be carried, can withstand the abuses of camping, and provide enough power to *reliably* (focus on reliable!) power the devices you likely use at camp. Based on my experience and of friends and tons of research, here are the best portable solar panels for camping plus everything you need to know about choosing solar panels for outdoor activities. ## Top Picks - **Best Overall:** **[Goal Zero Nomad](https://amzn.to/34RRWc0)** - **Best Value: [Renogy E. Flex 50W](https://amzn.to/34QnyyD)** - **Best for Backpacking: [Anker 21W PowerPort](https://amzn.to/30WFZ3z)** - **Best for Compact Size:** **[TP-Solar 60W](https://amzn.to/3nIglcz)** ### Comparison \*Note that most of these portable solar panels are also available in other sizes. \[table id=36 /\] ## Best Portable Camping Solar Panels ### 1. Goal Zero Nomad Solar Panels ![Goal Zero Nomad solar panels for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/goal-zero-nomad-50.jpg "goal zero nomad 50 - Mom Goes Camping") **Choose If:** You don’t mind paying more for a reliable brand #### **Specs (for 50w solar panel):** - **Panel Type:** Monocrystalline - **Weight:** 6.85lbs - **Folded Size:** 17 x 11.25 x 2.5 inches - **Open Size:** 53 x 17 x 1.5 inches - **Outlets:** USB-A (5V, 2.4amp) and 8mm (14-22V, 3.5A) - **Chainable:** Yes – including different sizes - **Available At:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/34RRWc0), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fb%2Fgoal-zero%2Fc%2Fsolar-and-portable-power%3Fpagesize%3D90) #### Review: Goal Zero is the best-known brand of solar panels for camping.  Their products are meant for outdoor use and designed to be rugged.  They also are incredibly high quality and very efficient monocrystalline panels. The Nomad series of Goal Zero solar panels are their most portable.  The smallest one is 5 watts and the largest is 200 watts. For camping, you’ll probably want the 20, 50 or 100 watt versions, depending on how many devices you are bringing along. A nice feature is that the Nomad panels have a USB outlet for direct charging devices at 5V and up to 2.4A. This is much faster than the 1amp charge most portable solar chargers offer. There is also an 8mm outlet for charging a battery.  It’s compatible with the Goal Zero power stations, which are also rugged and have an impressive list of features – particularly the built-in charger controller and inverter so you don’t have to carry multiple components with you. #### Pros: - Very reliable brand - High-quality panels - Rugged build - Lightweight and compact for its class - Mostly waterproof - Can chain them with other Goal Zero panels #### Cons: - Pricier than lesser-known brands - Stupidly popular; the 50W panels are often out of stock - No USB-C outlet **Check Price at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/34RRWc0) and** [**REI**](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fb%2Fgoal-zero%2Fc%2Fsolar-and-portable-power%3Fpagesize%3D90) --- ### 2. Jackery SolarSaga ![jackery solarsaga 60w](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/jackery-solarsaga-60w.jpg "jackery solarsaga 60w - Mom Goes Camping") **Choose If:** You want a reliable and sturdy solar panel but don’t want to pay Goal Zero prices. #### **Specs (for 60w solar panel):** - **Panel Type:** Monocrystalline - **Weight:** 3.3lbs - **Folded Size:** 16.8 x 11.4 x 0.2 inches - **Open Size:** 35.2 x 16.8 x 0.2 inches - **Outlets:** USB-A (5V, 2.4amp), USB-C (5V, 3amp) and Anderson Connector (DC 18V, 3.3amp) - **Chainable:** Up to 2 panels - **Available At:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/33NEIOk) #### **Review:** Jackery released the SolarSaga in 2020 to compete with the Goal Zero Nomad panels. They are available in 60 and 100 watt sizes. Like the Nomad, the SolarSaga series are designed to be portable.  They have a really nice folding design with a built-in rubberized orange handle.  It looks sleek and professional and the hinges between the panels feels sturdy. There are two USB outlets so you can directly charge devices simultaneously. There is also an Anderson connection.  Jackery includes an Anderson-to-8mm cable to be used with the Jackery power station.  However, note that their 8mm cable isn’t the same as the Goal Zero cable; it doesn’t fit well in the Yeti power station.  If you want to charge a Yeti with the SolarSaga, then you’ll need to get Goal Zero’s adapter cable. Compared to the Goal Zero Nomad solar panels, Jackery’s SolarSaga panels are much lighter and thinner. They are half the weight and a fraction of the thickness (2.5 inches compared to 0.2 inches!).  There is also a built-in kickstand which can be adjusted to preset angles. While the ultralight design is appealing for portability (even backpackers could carry this on trips), it does mean the SolarSaga panels aren’t as durable or tough.  They aren’t waterproof and you won’t want to leave them unattended; even a slight breeze could send them toppling over. #### Pros: - Very lightweight and compact - Two USB outlets - Built-in adjustable kickstand - Rubberized carrying cable - Comes with adapters #### Cons: - Not waterproof - Easily toppled by wind - Not compatible with all power stations **Check Price at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/33NEIOk)** --- ### 3. Renogy E. Flex Solar Panels ![Renogy E. Flex 50w folding solar panel](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/renogy-e-flex-50w.jpg "renogy e flex 50w - Mom Goes Camping") **Choose If:** You want a really good value #### **Specs (for 50W panel):** - **Panel Type:** Monocrystalline - **Weight:** 5.25lbs - **Folded Size:** 19.9 x 16.1 x 0.8 inch - **Open Size:** 32.5 x 19.9 x 0.2 inch - **Outlets:** USB A (5V, 2.4amp), USB-C (5V, 3amp), switchable DC (19V/2.4amp and 16V/2.8amp) and solar connector output (18V, 2.77amp) - **Chainable:** Yes - **Available At:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/34QnyyD) #### Review: Renogy is well known for their affordable solar panels. Most of the Renogy solar panels are not very portable.  However, their E. Flex panels are the exception.  In particular, their 21, 30 and 50 watt solar panels are portable and light enough to use at camp. Despite the low price, the E. Flex solar panels still have features like auto-reset, so you don’t have to worry that the charging will stop if a cloud passes overhead.  However, some users did report problems with it and had to unplug/replug devices to get them charging again. Likewise, it doesn’t do great at charging multiple devices at once because of amp drops. #### Pros: - Affordable - Easy to use - Good built-in features - Built-in kickstand #### Cons: - Some issues with the auto reset feature - Not great at charging multiple devices simultaneously #### Check Price At [Amazon](https://amzn.to/34QnyyD) --- ### 4. Anker 21W PowerPort Solar Panel ![anker 21w solar charger](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/anker-solar-panel-e1573729293389.jpg "anker solar panel - Mom Goes Camping") **Choose If:** You need a lightweight solar panel for hiking #### **Specs:** - **Panel Type:** Monocrystalline - **Weight:** 13.2oz - **Folded Size:** 11 x 6.3 inches - **Open Size:** 18.1 x 11 inches - **Outlets:** USB 3.0 - **Chainable:** No - **Available At:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/30WFZ3z) #### Review: The Anker PowerPort is my top pick for [ultralight backpacking solar panels](https://momgoescamping.com/best-ultralight-solar-panels/).  It is just 13.2oz, which means it has 1.6 watts per ounce.  Few portable solar panels come close to offering that much power per weight. While 21W is too low for campers who bring multiple devices or appliances, it’s just right for keeping your phone, Kindle, or other small devices topped off during occasional use.  You’ll probably want to use a power bank as it’s more reliable than direct charging. There are grommets so you can hang it from a tent, your car, backpack, etc. to capture sunlight. It is designed in a way so the solar panel folds down quite compact but still delivers enough surface area for capturing sunlight.  There are smart built-in features like auto-reset so you don’t have to worry about the charger stopping because of passing clouds. There’s also a blocking diode so the charge won’t drain your batteries instead of charging them in low-light situations. The brand Anker is also highly reputable and known for producing quality power banks and other portable power solutions. If you pair this solar panel with their [Anker Astro](http://amzn.to/2vxJagO) power bank (just 4.2oz and 6700mAh), you will have a very efficient, lightweight solar setup for camping or backpacking. #### **Pros:** - High quality solar panel - Lightweight setup - Very portable - Auto reset and blocking diode #### **Cons:** - Only USB outlet - Not great at trickle charging **Check Price At [Amazon](https://amzn.to/30WFZ3z)** --- ### 5. Goal Zero Boulder Solar Panels ![Goal Zero Boulder briefcase solar panels for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/goal-zero-boulder-50w.jpg "goal zero boulder 50w - Mom Goes Camping") **Choose If:** You want an affordable and durable briefcase solar panel that can be chained #### **Specs (for 50w solar panel):** - **Panel Type:** Monocrystalline - **Weight:** 12.4lbs - **Size:** 21.75 x 26.75 x 1.75 inches - **Outlets:** 8mm (14-22V, 3.5A) - **Chainable:** Yes - **Available At:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/2GFpX7B), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fb%2Fgoal-zero%2Fc%2Fsolar-and-portable-power%3Fpagesize%3D90) #### Review: The Boulder is Goal Zero’s rigid solar panel collection.  Compared to the Nomad panels, the Boulder panels are much more robust: they can really withstand a beating.  They are waterproof and can even be left outside overnight.  You won’t have to worry about them toppling over in a slight breeze. You can tell just by the warranty that the Briefcase is a more durable product: it has a 2 year warranty compared to just 1 year with the Nomad solar panels. Another nice feature of the Boulder solar panels is that they have a built-in stand.  It allows you to easily adjust the angle of the solar panel so it gets maximum sunlight. The rigid design does have its drawbacks. Even though Goal Zero obviously tried to keep them portable, the Boulder solar panels are still quite bulky and heavy. There is a suitcase carrier that you can get for the panels, but it’s still not ideal if you will need to carry your solar panel far to camp. Note that the Goal Zero Boulder panels only have an 8mm outlet.  They won’t be able to directly charge via USB.  You’ll have to use them with a battery setup or power station. #### Pros: - High-quality panels - 24 month warranty - Built-in adjustable stand - Waterproof - Can chain them with other Goal Zero panels #### Cons: - Bulky and heavy - No direct charging devices with USB **Check Price at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/2GFpX7B) and [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fb%2Fgoal-zero%2Fc%2Fsolar-and-portable-power%3Fpagesize%3D90)** --- ### 6. RockPals Portable Solar Panel ![rockpals 60w solar panel](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/rockpals-60w-solar-panel.jpg "rockpals 60w solar panel - Mom Goes Camping") **Choose If:** You want to directly charge multiple devices at once #### **Specs (for 60W panel):** - **Panel Type:** Monocrystalline - **Weight:** 5.6lbs - **Folded Size:** 13.8 x 13.39 x 2.36 inches - **Open Size:** 58.2 x 13.8 x 0.2 inches - **Outlets:** 3x USB 3.0 (5V, 2.4amp each), 5.5 x 2.1mm DC (18V, 3.4amp) - **Chainable:** No - **Available At:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3jSrh54) #### Review: RockPals is another brand of affordable camping solar panels.  For the price, the panel is actually of a good quality and seems to withstand the abuse of camping well enough.  It comes in 60W and 100W sizes. It’s designed to be compatible with the most popular power stations (like the Yeti and Jackery stations) and comes with a set of adapters for charging them. There are three USB 3.0 outlets which allow you to charge devices simultaneously at a max of 2.4 amps each.  The IC chip automatically determines the right charging speed and adjusts the amps based on the light.  Not surprisingly though, it does have trouble with trickle charge. If the sunlight is low, you will only want to charge one or two devices at once. It’s worth noting that the RockPals doesn’t withstand high temperatures as well as some other camping solar panels.  It has a max operating temperature of 120F.   The panel can easily reach that temperature in summer, so you’ll need to place a white cloth (or similar) underneath the panel to reduce heat absorption into the panel. #### **Pros:** - Compact 4-fold design - Quality panel - Comes with adapters #### **Cons:** - Overheats easily - Not chainable **Check Price At [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3jSrh54)** --- ### 7. TogoPower Solar Panel ![TogoPower 60W solar panel](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/togopower-60w.jpg "togopower 60w - Mom Goes Camping") **Choose If:** You are on a tight budget and like the included adapters #### **Specs (for 60W panel):** - **Panel Type:** Monocrystalline - **Weight:** 6.5lbs - **Folded Size:** 16 x 14.6 x 2.0 inches - **Open Size:** 50.7 x 16 x 1 inches - **Outlets:** USB-A **(**0 24W) & USB-C (PD 45W) and DC (18V, 3.3amp) - **Chainable:** No - **Available At:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/34McwdX) #### Review: Togo is a Chinese brand which makes cheap solar panels.  I’m wary of buying from no-name Chinese brands but Togo is one which actually is of a good quality. Their monocrystalline solar panels have a high efficiency and are comparable to more expensive brands. The TogoPower solar panels come in 60W and 120W sizes.  They are a good pick for camping because of their thicker canvas backing.  I also like that there is a zippered pouch for your cables and devices.  This gives it some more protection against the rain.  Only the front of the solar panel is water resistant though, so make sure it is brought inside in the rain. My main complaint abou the TogoPower for camping is that it is very bulky. It only folds three times so it won’t fit in a backpack.  You’ll have to carry it along your side like a briefcase.  Also, the brand hasn’t been around as long as others so I can’t be certain that Togo delivers consistent quality. #### **Pros:** - Very affordable - Includes adapters - Durable materials and zippered pocket - Two kickstands #### **Cons:** - Bulky even when folded **Check Price on [Amazon](https://amzn.to/34McwdX)** --- ### 8. TP-Solar Panel ![TP-Solar 60W folding solar panel](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/tp-solar-60w-folding.jpg "tp solar 60w folding - Mom Goes Camping") **Choose If:** You want a large solar panel which can fold down very compact #### **Specs (for 60w panel):** - **Panel Type:** Monocrystalline - **Weight:** 1lbs - **Folded Size:** 8 x 7.8 x 1.1 inches - **Open Size:** 44 x 19.6 x 0.1 inches - **Outlets:** Dual USB-A (5V, 2amp) and DC (19V, 5amp) - **Chainable:** No - **Available At:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3nIglcz) #### Review: The TP-Solar panels come in 30W, 60W, 100W and 120W sizes. This version of the 60W solar panel is unique though because it is made of 10 separate panels that fold down into an incredibly compact package.  It’s one of the few camping solar panels that can easily fit in a daypack. Despite being cheap, the TP-Solar panels are surprisingly good quality.  Side-by-side tests show that they perform as well as Goal Zero solar panels, despite costing just a fraction. There is QC3.0 smart charging technology with the USB outlets. If your don’t have QC devices though, you won’t get the most out of these ports as you can’t choose the voltage. You might want to get a regulator for this solar panel when camping. TP-Solar claims you can use an alligator clip and cigarette lighter plug to directly charge a car battery but this isn’t recommended as you could overcharge. Another downside is that the design means there are multiple hinges on the solar panel.  Hinges are often a fail point for folding solar panels, so it might not survive extensive use. #### **Pros:** - Very compact design - Lightweight - High efficiency - Great value #### **Cons:** - No USB-C outlet - Can’t choose voltage output - Will work best with a regulator - Hinges are potential fail point **Check Price on [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3nIglcz)** --- ## **Do You Really Need a Solar Panel When Camping?** Yes, solar panels are worth it if you need power for small devices like your phone, photo equipment, or even some small appliances. However, a solar panel is only worth it if you are willing to invest in a setup which is capable of producing enough power to meet your needs. Otherwise, your solar panel will end up being an expensive, useless toy when camping. Why do I say this? Because, while portable solar panels have come a long way, they are not perfect. A small, cheap solar panel might be enough to top off your phone battery.  But you can’t expect a small solar panel to power a refrigerator! You really need to be realistic about what solar panels can do, calculate your needs, hopefully also *reduce* your energy needs, and get the right setup. ## **How to Charge Devices with Solar while Camping** There are two main ways you can use portable solar panels when camping. ### **Option 1: Directly Charge Devices from the Solar Panel** [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/small-camping-solar-panel-for-hiking.jpg "small camping solar panel for hiking - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/small-camping-solar-panel-for-hiking.jpg)*A small solar panel directly charging a phone via USB The phone is kept out of the sun to prevent overheating* Almost all portable solar panels have USB outlets.  To use them, you simply plug your device into the solar panel, put the solar panel in the sun, and let it charge the device. #### Benefits: The main benefit of directly charging is that it is **more efficient**. When you use the solar panel to charge a battery and then charge a device, you lose some of the power.  It’s lost through the cables, conversion, and through the battery.  By directly charging your devices, you will get the most power from the solar panel.  There also isn’t any issue of your device discharging back into the solar panel. #### **Downsides:** - **No way of storing power:** If you need to charge your device and it’s a cloudy day, you are out of luck. - **Charging slows or stops:** A big issue with portable solar chargers is that, if sunlight reduces during charging – such as if a cloud passes overhead – the charger slows or stops completely. Most good solar chargers now have an auto-reset feature so they will start charging again once the sunlight returns – but surprisingly a lot of cheap solar chargers still don’t have this feature. - **Some devices require a certain amount of power to start charging.** Nokia phones, for example, require 120mAh to start charging.  If you try to directly charge them with a solar panel on a cloudy day, you might not even get a trickle charge. - **Compatibility:** You may not be able to directly charge some devices with certain solar chargers. - **Might draw power from your device!** If a device is plugged into a solar charger and there isn’t much sunlight, the charger might drain the device battery instead of charge it. Good solar chargers have a **blocking diode feature** which prevents power from draining out of the device. ### **Option 2: Solar Panel Plus Battery** [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/340-watt-solar-setup.jpg "340 watt solar setup - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/340-watt-solar-setup.jpg)*A large 360 watt solar setup used to charge a power station* If you need a more reliable source of power, then you’ll need a battery for your solar panels.  This can be a small power bank or a large deep cyclic battery. You connect the solar panel to the battery to let it charge.  Then you charge your devices from the battery. #### Benefits: - Can store power for later - More flexibility: You can choose the size of the battery, type of outlets, and number of outlets to suit your needs. - Pre-charge battery: Charge the battery at home before your camping trip so you have power when you arrive and just use solar for topping it off. #### Downsides: - More complicated: You’ll likely need a more complex solar setup for camping, including a regulator and invertor. - Less Efficient: Some power is lost when it is stored in the battery and also as it passes through the cables en route to the device. ## Using Solar Panels with a Power Station If you only need to occasionally charge devices like your phone or Kindle, you can get away with a small solar charger which directly charges the devices or a power bank.  For anything larger though – such as charging refrigerators or laptops while camping – you’ll need a solar setup which has a charge controller, deep cycle battery for storing the power, and an inverter. Unless you are the DIY type, this probably means buying a power station. **Read: [Are power stations worth it for camping?](https://momgoescamping.com/power-stations-worth-it-camping/)** ## Solar Panel Power Terms Before choosing a portable solar setup for camping, you’ll need to understand the basics of power. ### Watts: Solar panels are rated in watts.  It essentially is a measure of how much power the panels are able to produce. Most portable solar panels range from 5 to 100 watts.  Anything bigger than 100 watts is probably too large to consider “portable.” Watts are calculated as Volts x Amps. ### Volts: Volts is the energy potential of the solar panel.  All USB cables run at 5 volts (thus anything that charges via USB takes 5 volts).  Laptop charger cables can be as high as 25 volts. If you were to try charging your cell phone on a 12 volt solar charger, it wouldn’t be able to handle that much electricity. You’d see sparks and melting plastic!   This is why we use invertors with high-power solar panel setups. ### Amps: The amount of electricity that can flow at once is measured in *amps.* Older cell phones will handle about 1 amp. Newer fast-charge phones will handle upwards of 2 amps. Devices which use more power (such as tablets) usually handle around 2 to 2.5 amps. Laptops might have 5 amps. Higher amperage means you can charge devices more quickly.  For example, it will take longer to charge a laptop at 1amp than at 5 amps. **Confused? A good way to think about watts, volts and amps is using a metaphor of water going through a pipe:** - Watts = total water - Volts = water pressure - Amps = size of pipe If you have high water pressure (volts) and big pipes (amps), then you are going to have a lot of water (watts) going through the pipes. ### Watt Hours Watt hours (Wh) is how much power you need over time.  It is measured as Wh = W x time in hours.  This is especially important for calculating power needs of devices you will be running frequently, like camping fridges. ### Amp Hours The amount of power a battery can hold is listed as amp hours (Ah).  It is calculated as *Ah = Wh/voltage.*  Amp hours is important because it represents the amount of power being used over time. ## What Size Solar Panel Do I Need for Camping? As a general rule, you’ll need *at least* a 10W solar panel to charge your smartphone. You’ll need at least a 50W solar setup if you want to use a laptop a few hours per day.  And you’ll need around 120 to 160 watts to run a small camping fridge.  If you want to run multiple appliances throughout the day, such as a fridge, lights, game console, and other devices, you will need 300-500 watts of solar power. Note that these are just generalizations. Calculating how much solar power you need for camping is actually pretty complicated.  It will vary drastically depending on factors like the efficiency of the solar panels, how much peak light you get, and how your panels are angled. **Below are basic steps to help you calculate your camping solar needs.** 1. **List all the devices you want to use** 2. **Calculate how many watts they use per hour** 3. **Multiply the watts by how many hours you will use the device per day** 4. **This gives you your watt hours per day** 5. **Divide the watt hours by how many hours of peak daylight you expect to get per day.** 6. **This is the *minimum* size in watts your solar panel setup needs to be** 7. **Multiply by 2-5x to account for inefficiency and to have a margin of error** ### Reduce Your Electric Needs! Instead of getting a larger solar panel setup for camping, reduce your electricity needs. - Use gas stoves instead of electric - Choose gas for other devices too, such as propane heaters or lanterns - Use LED lights - Pre-charge all devices before you leave - Turn off unnecessary apps on your phone so they don’t drain the battery - Pack [camping meals which don’t require refrigeration](https://momgoescamping.com/easy-camping-meals/) ## **Choosing a Portable Solar Panel for Camping** ### Solar Charger vs. Solar Panel A solar *charger* is a solar panel which has a USB outlet.  It won’t be able to charge anything which uses 12v plugs.  By contrast, portable solar *panels* can charge batteries which in turn charge with 12V or USB outlets. ### Monocrystalline vs. Polycrystalline Panels Mono crystalline are considered the best type of solar panel. By comparison, poly-crystalline panels have boundaries between their crystals; these boundaries reduce efficiency. You’d need a slightly larger poly-crystalline panel to get the same power as a mono one. ### Efficiency Good brands of portable solar chargers will list their efficiency rating.  Anything above 22% is a fairly good efficiency.  Yes, just 22%. ### Type of Panel Portable solar panels can be broken down into three main types: briefcase, rigid folding, and flexible solar panels.  Most camping solar panels are the rigid-folding type. #### Briefcase Solar Panels Briefcase solar panels are mounted onto a frame which adds considerable weight.  They might fold but are usually still quite large even when folded. This makes them quite large and heavy; they can barely be considered portable.  For example, the Goal Zero Boulder 100 (briefcase) is 15lbs heavier than the Goal Zero Nomad 100 (rigid folding). However, the benefit is that briefcase solar panels are much more durable.  You won’t have to worry about them toppling over in the wind.  They can usually be mounted, are waterproof, and can be left outside at night. #### Rigid Folding Solar Panels These types of camping solar panels are made up of multiple rigid panels which are chained together with a hinge. They are lightweight, compact and come in various sizes.  If you need to hike with your solar panel, then a folding type is the best choice. While portable, folding solar panels are very lightweight and easily topple over.  They are rarely waterproof and you need to make sure the junction box doesn’t get wet. #### Flexible Solar Panels A flexible solar panel is usually very large and thin.  They are lightweight and the flexibility makes it easy to put them on top of your car hood, a trailer, etc. However, flexible solar panels generally aren’t recommended for camping.  They can easily get damaged if bent too much.  Since they don’t fold, the panels are very large and hard to carry. ### Price To figure out the value, look at the *price per watt* of the solar charger. Total price divided by watts = price per watt. Portable solar chargers are getting cheaper all of the time.  It used to be that $10 per watt was a good deal.  Now you can find quality portable solar chargers that cost less than $2 per watt. As a general rule, larger solar panels are cheaper per watt. Pay attention to whether the panel is monocrystalline or polycrystalline when comparing prices: poly is cheaper but not as efficient. **Now that you’ve got power taken care of, what are you going to eat on the trail?** Check out my eBook with over 50 trail recipes and lots of info about meal planning and nutrition for backpacking.  Since you made it all the way to the end of this post, I’ll even give you [50% off](https://gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck/50off). 🙂 [![dehydrator backpacking recipes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/book-with-tablet.png "book with tablet - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/book-with-tablet.png) [**Get the ebook at 50% off here.**](https://gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck/50off) --- Image credits: “[360 W Solar Power](https://www.flickr.com/photos/stephanridgway/11140382545/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [sridgway](https://www.flickr.com/people/stephanridgway/), “[Anker 14W Solar Panels](https://www.flickr.com/photos/justamedic/17283824044/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [Mikka Luster](https://www.flickr.com/people/justamedic/), “[Goal Zero Guide 10 Solar nordtrekking 07](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nordtrekking/13378623705/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Nordtrekking](https://www.flickr.com/people/nordtrekking/) Resources for this article: <http://sciencing.com/larger-mah-number-cell-phone-battery-mean-better-battery-15015.html><https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/79279/does-mah-measure-how-long-a-battery-would-last><https://www.tomsguide.com/us/smartphones-best-battery-life,review-2857.html>http://www.newelectric.com/whats-the-difference-between-amps-volts-and-watts/ <https://www.ise.fraunhofer.de/content/dam/ise/de/documents/publications/studies/Photovoltaics-Report.pdf><http://energyinformative.org/best-solar-panel-monocrystalline-polycrystalline-thin-film/#thin-film-solar-cells> <https://www.voltaicsystems.com/blog/android-smartphone-direct-solar-charging/> <https://www.selectsolargadgets.co.uk/cat/170/charing-mobile-phones-with-solar-power> <https://www.solarpaneltalk.com/forum/solar/the-pros-and-cons-of-solar-energy/19256-backpacking-need-help> <https://www.researchgate.net/post/Why_must_deep-cycle_batteries_be_used_in_solar_power_systems> <https://auto.howstuffworks.com/question219.htm> https://www.centurybatteries.com.au/products/deep-cycle/car-vs-deep-cycle ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** solar panels --- ### [Big Agnes Fly Creek HV UL2 Alternatives](https://momgoescamping.com/big-agnes-fly-creek-alternatives/) **Published:** September 17, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** When it first came out in 2009, the Big Agnes Fly Creek was the lightest double-wall two-person backpacking tent on the market. Over a decade later, it is *still* one of the lightest semi-freestanding tents available.  However, the tent is far from perfect.  The Fly Creek is notoriously cramped, has sagging walls, and only has just one entry door.  Now, there are plenty of alternatives to the Fly Creek tent which are still lightweight yet without these faults. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/big-agnes-fly-creek-pitched.jpg "big agnes fly creek pitched - Mom Goes Camping")*The Fly Creek UL2 is ultralight but its also cramped* Here are some of the best Fly Creek HV UL2 tent alternatives, including top picks for comfort, durability, and budget. ## Quick Picks - **Best Overall:** [Big Agnes Tiger Wall UL2](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F188354%2Fbig-agnes-tiger-wall-ul2-solution-dyed-tent) - **Best for Spaciousness and Comfort:** [ Nemo Dagger 2P](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F200550%2Fnemo-dagger-osmo-2p-tent) - **Best On a Budget:** [Naturehike CloudUp 2](https://amzn.to/2ZKNTwi) ### Comparison \[table id=33 /\] ## Best Fly Creek HV UL2 Alternatives All of the alternatives to the Fly Creek here are also 2-person, double-wall, freestanding or semi-freestanding, and lightweight. Most are in the same price range as the Fly Creek HV UL2 but there is a budget pick too. **\*Tip: You can often find great deals on last season’s UL tents at [REI’s Outlet](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Foutlet).** ### 1. Big Agnes Tiger Wall UL2: Best Overall ![Big Agnes Tiger Wall UL2](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/big-agnes-tiger-wall-2.jpg "big agnes tiger wall 2 - Mom Goes Camping") #### **Specs:** - **Packed Weight:** 2lbs 8oz - **Minimum Weight:** 1lb 11oz - **Floor Area:** 28sq. ft. - **Head Height:** 39” - **Doors:** 2 - **Vestibules:** 2x8sq. ft. - **Packed size:** 5.5×18” - **Floor:** 15D - **Freestanding:** Semi - **Buy at: [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F188354%2Fbig-agnes-tiger-wall-ul2-solution-dyed-tent)** #### Review ![big agnes tiger wall UL2 fly only pitch](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/big-agnes-tiger-wall-3.jpg "big agnes tiger wall 3 - Mom Goes Camping") ![big agnes tiger wall UL2 mesh inner tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/big-agnes-tiger-wall.jpg "big agnes tiger wall - Mom Goes Camping") The Tiger Wall is Big Agnes’s upgrade of the Fly Creek tent. It’s been made so that it is even more lightweight than the Fly Creek yet fixes the livability issues. Unlike the single front entry door with the Fly Creek, the Tiger Wall 2 has two side door for easy entry.  The two vestibules aren’t just good for storing gear but mean that the fly wall is set further away from the inner tent than with the Fly Creek.  Thus, you are less likely to have issues with the fly and inner tent coming in contact and creating condensation issues.  The vestibules aren’t giant: just 8 sq. feet each, but it’s enough to store your gear. There is a center ridgepole overhead which extends the vestibule space and keeps the inner tent from sagging. The Tiger Wall is still pretty cramped for two people, but the inner living space is incredibly improved over the Fly Creek so you won’t feel as claustrophobic. As for weight, the Tiger Wall 2 is only 3oz heavier than the Fly Creek HV UL2.  If you are really obsessed with cutting every ounce, there are two lighter versions of the Tiger Wall available: the Platinum and Carbon.  Not surprisingly, these are much pricier. The main downside of the Big Agnes Tiger Wall is the 15D floor and fragile material. You’ve got to be used to taking good care of your gear or can accidentally rip the tent. It’s also not a truly freestanding tent as one side must be staked out, which isn’t ideal for camping in canyons or on rock surfaces. **Check price at [ REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F188354%2Fbig-agnes-tiger-wall-ul2-solution-dyed-tent)** --- ### 2. Nemo Hornet 2P: Best Ultralight ![Nemo Hornet 2P tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/nemo-hornet-2p.jpg "nemo hornet 2p - Mom Goes Camping") #### **Specs:** - **Packed Weight:** 2lbs 6oz - **Minimum Weight:** 1lb 15oz - **Floor Area:** 27.5sq ft - **Head Height:** 40” - **Doors:** 2 - **Vestibules:** 2×7.1sq ft - **Packed size:** 19×5” - **Floor:** 20D - **Freestanding:** Semi - **Buy at: [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F238835%2Fnemo-hornet-osmo-ultralight-2p-tent), [Amazon](https://amzn.to/4hHLGaz)** #### Review ![nemo hornet 2p inner mesh tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/nemo-hornet-2p-2.jpg "nemo hornet 2p 2 - Mom Goes Camping") The Nemo Hornet 2P tent is almost exactly the same as the Fly Creek HV UL2 and their specs are nearly the same too.  However, there is one very important different: the Hornet has dual entry at the sides and two vestibules. Compared to the new Big Agnes Tiger Wall, the Nemo Hornet is more affordable and wins for weight.  However, its center ridgepole isn’t quite as long.  The vestibules are slightly smaller and the overall tent seems more cramped.   It’s still a great tent but you might want to spend the extra money for the Tiger Wall or get a slightly heavier Nemo tent, such as the Dragonfly listed below. Unfortunately, the Nemo Hornet isn’t in production anymore and hard to find. **Check price at [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F238835%2Fnemo-hornet-osmo-ultralight-2p-tent) and [Amazon](https://amzn.to/4hHLGaz)** --- ### 3. Nemo Dragonfly 2: Best for Balance between Weight and Space ![Nemo Dragonly 2P tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/nemo-dragonfly-2.jpg "nemo dragonfly 2 - Mom Goes Camping") #### **Specs:** - **Packed Weight:** 3lbs 1oz - **Minimum Weight:** 2lbs 9oz - **Floor Area:** 29sq. ft. - **Head Height:** 40” - **Doors:** 2 - **Packed size:** 4.5×19.5” - **Floor:** 20D - **Freestanding:** Yes - **Buy At: [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dnemo%2Bdragonfly%2B2)** #### Review ![nemo dragonfly inner mesh tent 2P](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/nemo-dragonfly.jpg "nemo dragonfly - Mom Goes Camping") The Nemo Dragonfly 2 has mostly replaced the Hornet 2 tent.  At first glance, it seems almost identical to the Hornet (and thus almost identical to the Big Agnes Fly Creek). However, if you look at how the inner tent is sewn, you’ll see it has a different slope.  This gives you more livable space inside for things like sitting up and changing your clothes. The vestibules are also much larger than with the Fly Creek and Hornet, so you can fit more gear there.  The two side doors are unusually large; it’s useful if you want to leave one door closed as a wind block and the other door open for ventilation. While the Dragonfly might be more comfortable than the Fly Creek, it’s still not the largest or roomiest backpacking tent.  However, it is a good balance between size and weight. **Check price at [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dnemo%2Bdragonfly%2B2)** --- ### 4. NatureHike CloudUp: Best Budget Pick [![Cloud Up 2 tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/cloud-up-vs-flycreek.png "cloud up vs flycreek - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/cloud-up-vs-flycreek.png) #### **Specs:** - **Packed Weight:** 3lbs 12oz - **Minimum Weight:** NA - **Floor Area:** 28sq ft. - **Head Height:** 39” - **Doors:** 1 - **Packed size:** 3” - **Floor:** 20D - **Freestanding:** Semi - **Buy At: [Amazon](https://amzn.to/2ZKNTwi)** #### Review [![ultralight tent naturehike cloudup 2 review](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/ultralight-tent-naturehike-cloudup-2.jpg "ultralight tent naturehike cloudup 2 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/ultralight-tent-naturehike-cloudup-2.jpg) NatureHike’s CloudUp 2 tent is almost a direct clone of the Fly Creek tent.  While it might not be ethical for them to copy Big Agnes’s intellectual property, it’s hard to argue with the price: the CloudUp 2 costs a fraction of the Fly Creek. Other than the price, the biggest difference between the two tents is the weight.  The CloudUp doesn’t use as high-tech materials as the Fly Creek, so it weighs more than a pound more.   Note that the CloudUp weight does include the groundsheet. There are a few other minor differences between the CloudUp and Fly Creek, like in the number of clips used and that the Fly Creek has two extra pockets inside.  However, these are minor differences and you are basically getting the same slightly-heavier tent for significantly cheaper.   I’ve used the CloudUp 2 in hail storms and heavy winds and, despite being so cheap, it has held up impressively well. \*Read my full [review of the NatureHike CloudUp 2](https://momgoescamping.com/naturehike-cloudup-2-review/) here. **Check price on [Amazon](https://amzn.to/2ZKNTwi)** --- ### 5. Nemo Dagger 2: Best for Durability and Livability ![Nemo Dagger 2P ultralight tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/nemo-dagger-2.jpg "nemo dagger 2 - Mom Goes Camping") #### **Specs:** - **Packed Weight:** 3lb 14oz - **Minimum Weight:** 3lbs 5oz - **Floor Area:** 31.3sq. ft. - **Head Height:** 42 - **Doors:** 2 - **Vestibules:** 2×11.4sq. ft. - **Packed size:** 5×19.5” - **Floor:** 30D - **Freestanding:** Yes - **Buy At: [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F200550%2Fnemo-dagger-osmo-2p-tent)** #### Review ![Nemo Dagger 2P ultralight tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/nemo-dagger.jpg "nemo dagger - Mom Goes Camping") [![Nemo Dagger 2P ultralight tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/nemo-dagger-3.jpg "nemo dagger 3 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/nemo-dagger-3.jpg) If you want an ultralight two-person tent which actually can fit two people, the Nemo Dagger 2 is one of the best bets.  It is still pretty lightweight at just 3lb 14oz.  While this is quite heavier than the Fly Creek HV UL2, the Dagger has a lot more space. The Dagger is truly freestanding. Staking it down is recommended but entirely optional. The tent is constructed so the sides don’t sag down on you like with the Fly Creek.  The head height is 42 inches and keeps that height for most of the interior- the side walls are almost vertical.  There are two doors and, best of all, two MASSIVE vestibules of 11.4 sq. ft. each.   The interior floor space is approximately 90×50 inches (31.3sq. ft.), so you’ll still be side-to-side with your backpacking partner.  However, at least you’ll be able to keep all your gear outside in the vestibules. Another key difference about the Dagger tent is that it has a 30D floor which is much more durable than the 20D floors in most ultralight tents. You can use it without a groundsheet if you are careful when pitching. Some people complain that the Nemo Dagger isn’t waterproof and leaks.  Upon closer inspection, this problem is actually because the fly and interior tent touch near the bottom, which can cause condensation and make it seem like water is leaking inside. Make sure you stake out your tent well!  The real main downside is that the tent is fairly pricy. **Check price on [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F200550%2Fnemo-dagger-osmo-2p-tent)** --- ### 6. Mountain Hardwear Aspect 2 Tent: Best Comfortable Freestanding Tent ![Mountain Hardwear Aspect 2 lightweight tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/mh-aspect-2-copy.jpg "mh aspect 2 copy - Mom Goes Camping") #### **Specs:** - **Packed Weight:** 3lbs 5oz - **Minimum Weight:** 2lbs 14.7oz - **Floor Area:** 29.3sq. ft. - **Head Height:** 41” - **Doors:** 2 - **Packed size:** 6×20.5” - **Floor:** 20D - **Freestanding:** Yes - **Buy At: [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F164698%2Fmountain-hardwear-aspect-2-tent)** #### Review ![Mountain Hardwear Aspect 2 tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/mh-aspect-2-2-copy.jpg "mh aspect 2 2 copy - Mom Goes Camping") The Mountain Hardwear Aspect 2 is a gorgeous backpacking tent which is even designed to allow star gazing.  It is lightweight at 3lbs 5oz but holds up against wind and bad weather better than most other lightweight tents.  It’s also a completely freestanding tent and can be pitched without any guylines or staking down (though you’ll obviously still want to do this in bad weather). There are two main poles for the tent plus a pre-bent pole for over the door area.  This gives the tent almost vertical side walls and allows for much more interior living space.  The Aspect 2 is easy to set up, but there is one big downside compared to the Fly Creek HV UL2: you can’t use a fast-pitch with it: the groundsheet doesn’t have grommets so you must use the inner tent.  It’s also impossible to setup/take down the inner tent with the fly still in place, so your inner tent will get wet if pitching or taking down in bad weather. Compared to the Fly Creek though, the Aspect 2 is certainly more comfortable and durable while still being very lightweight.  It’s not as popular though, probably because it is pricier. **Check price at [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F164698%2Fmountain-hardwear-aspect-2-tent)** **If your main concern is cutting weight, then also check out these best [trekking pole tents](https://momgoescamping.com/best-trekking-pole-tents/).** --- Image credits: “[Big Agnes Fly Creek UL2](https://www.flickr.com/photos/mattzim/4640566582/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Matt-Zimmerman](https://www.flickr.com/people/mattzim/), “[Camped in Hope](https://www.flickr.com/photos/erikhalfacre/8728348198/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [ErikHalfacre](https://www.flickr.com/people/erikhalfacre/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** tent, ultralight --- ### [Thule Urban Glide 2.0 Stroller Review](https://momgoescamping.com/thule-urban-glide-2-0-review/) **Published:** September 16, 2019 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I often think back to those massive buggies that women used to push their kids around.  It must have made it difficult for parents to go anywhere!  Now, there are strollers like the Thule Urban Glide 2.0 which have suspension systems and air-filled wheels which make it possible to plow through sand, snow, grass, gravel, and other tough terrain. The Thule Urban Glide 2.0 got my pick for the best all-terrain stroller of 2019 (with the BOB Revolution Flex 3.0 coming in a close second place; see all my picks [here](https://momgoescamping.com/all-terrain-strollers-hiking/)). Bear in mind that no stroller is perfect. A stroller is something that you will probably end up using every single day for many years.  So, there is going to be something about any stroller that doesn’t suit your needs.  But, in terms of all-terrain strollers for things like hiking, the Urban Glide 2.0 is pretty damn close to perfect.  Here’s the review. ### Quick Review: Compared to other all-terrain strollers, the Thule Urban Glide 2.0 has some standout features, like that it can be folded with one hand, is relatively lightweight for its type, has a hand-operated brake for controlling speed on hilly terrain, and can be used from infancy up to 4 or 5 years old.   It’s a shame that they don’t offer more extras like cup holders or a snack tray.  But, for off-road use, this is probably the best stroller you’ll find. ### **Thule Urban Glide 2.0 Features Overview:**   - **12.5” front wheel** - **16” back wheels** - **Air-filled tires** - **25.3lbs** - **75lbs capacity** - **Hand and foot brake** - **Handlebar height: 35.5” to 44”** - **Door Pass Through: 27.2”** - **Lockable front wheel** - **Folded dimensions: 34.2”L x 27.2”W x 13.3”H** - **Interior seat width: 13.5”** - **Sitting height: 21”** - **Shoulder width: 13.5”** - **Buy at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/2NU9flO)** ## Thule Urban Glide 2.0 Full Review ### Functionality The Thule Urban Glide 2.0 is an all-terrain stroller that is designed for going off-road, like hiking on bumpy paths or going on sandy beaches.  Because the front wheel can be locked in place, you can also use it as a jogging stroller.  Even better, as an *off-road jogging stroller.* But, like with all off-road strollers, it means the Urban Glide 2.0 has some major downsides.  It is big and bulky.  It is very wide and might not fit through all doorways, not to mention tight aisles in stores. If you are thinking about using this as an everyday stroller, you’ll probably get annoyed.  You’ll probably want to get a smaller stroller for everyday life and save the Thule for when you go off-roading. ### The Wheels and Suspension System The Thule Urban Glide 2.0 has three wheels which make a triangle shape.  The reason for this is because the triangle shape adds the most stability. The wheels don’t sit right under your child, which reduces the risk of toppling over and also helps make a smoother ride. The front wheel is 12.5 inches in diameter and the back wheels are 16 inches.  Yes, this is pretty huge.  But you need this large size in order to get off-road.  Strollers with smaller wheels simply don’t handle bumpy paths well (especially if you want your child to remain sleeping while you jog over them!). The real-wheel suspension does a good job of absorbing shocks.  It’s too bad that it doesn’t have all-wheel suspension like the BOB Revolution Flex 3.0. Still, be realistic: No all-terrain stroller will handle snow very well.  It’s also a lot of effort to push a stroller over sand, no matter how good that stroller is.  On the plus side, you’ll get a good upper-body workout on bad terrain! 😀 ### The Tires As expected with an all-terrain stroller, the Thule Urban Glide 2.0 uses air-filled tires.  I’ll admit that I was skeptical about air-filled tires.  What if they popped while on the trail? Would I have to constantly refill the tires (as if I’m going to remember to do that…)? It turns out that air-filled tires aren’t as bad as you’d think.  However, it is really important that you get good tubes for the tires. Unfortunately, almost all all-terrain strollers – the Urban Glide 2.0 included – come with crappy tubes.  I have no idea why you’d pay nearly $500 for a stroller and get crappy tubes.  It seems like the companies could afford to include better tubes. The bottom line is that you will probably have some issues if you don’t replace the tubes with better-quality ones.  As soon as better tubes are in place though, you can go weeks without having to pump more air into the tires. \*Just in case you do get a flat, it’s smart to carry a repair kit with you.  Just bring some of this [Slime Tube Sealant](https://amzn.to/32zumxZ). Here’s an article on [how to change a jogging stroller tube](https://www.tipsfromatypicalmomblog.com/2014/07/fix-flat-jogging-stroller-tire.html). ### Brakes ![thule urban glide 2.0 hand brake](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/thule-urban-glide-2.0-hand-brake-1.jpg "thule urban glide 2.0 hand brake - Mom Goes Camping") When you are pushing a 28lb stroller with a 30+lb child down a hill, you want good brakes!  The brakes do a good job of locking the stroller in place, so no worries there. One distinguishing feature of the Urban Glide 2.0 is that it has a hand brake.  Just twist the brake and it will slow down the stroller.  This is a great feature to have on hilly terrain.  I’m not sure why more all-terrain strollers don’t have it. Note that the foot brake is not flip-flop friendly.  It’s easy enough to engage the brake.  It can be difficult to release the brake though without proper footwear on.  Of course, this is a jogging and hiking stroller though, so you shouldn’t be wearing flip flops anyway. 🙂 ### Folding Method For me, one of the most important features of a stroller is how easy it folds.  I don’t have a lot of space in my apartment and the stroller has to get folded up after each use.  Likewise, if you are taking the stroller in/out of your car a lot, then you’ll want something that folds easily. The Thule Urban Glide 2.0 really stands out in this area.  Unlike most other jogging or hiking strollers, it can actually be folded with one hand.  So, if you need to hold your baby in one hand while folding the stroller (trust me, this situation comes up frequently!), it is possible. The only downside is that the stroller folds with the fabric outwards.  So, you have to worry about getting the fabric where your kid sits dirty if you fold it in muddy or wet places. I’d call this a design flaw, but is seems that other one-handed folding jogging strollers have the same issue (for example, the [Baby Jogger Summit X3](https://amzn.to/2LnKYCZ)). The strollers which fold with the fabric inward are much harder to fold (like the two-step process of folding the BOB Revolution Flex 3.0). Given the choice, I’d rather have a stroller which is easy to fold, even if it gets a bit dirty sometimes. ### Adjustable Handlebar An adjustable handlebar was another feature that is very important to me.  I’m only 5’1”, and pushing strollers built for tall people puts a lot of strain on my wrist – especially on crappy terrain. There are other situations where it’s very handy to have an adjustable handlebar.  For example, if you need to pop a wheelie with your stroller (which is what I do when [going down steps](https://brooklynbrood.com/2013/02/28/best-way-to-go-down-the-subway-stairs-with-stroller/)), it helps to put the stroller handlebar in fully upright position. The Thule Urban Glide 2.0 handlebar adjusts from 35.5” to 44.”  This should be adequate for tall and short people alike. ### Weight and Size of the Stroller At 25.3lbs, The Urban Glide 2.0 is actually more lightweight than other all-terrain strollers.  However, it’s still a hefty stroller and you need to be aware of this before considering it as an everyday stroller. Likewise, the stroller is very big when open.  The back wheels are 27.2 inches wide (door pass through), which means the stroller won’t fit through narrow aisles.  It’s especially difficult to make turns in tight places. The [standard door width](https://homeguides.sfgate.com/standard-inside-door-sizes-84805.html) usually ranges from 28 to 32 inches.  So, you can get through most doorways with the Urban Glide 2.0.  However, bear in mind that some places do have smaller doors.  For example, if you encounter double doorways, you’ll have to open both doors to get the stroller through. \*The door pass through on the double version of the Urban Glide 2.0 is 31.5 inches. ### Age Range ![thule urban glide 2.0 with car seat adapter](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/thule-urban-glide-2.0-with-car-seat-adapter.jpg "thule urban glide 2.0 with car seat adapter - Mom Goes Camping") Here’s where I should probably remind you to check with your pediatrician before taking a baby jogging or off-roading.  😀 If you want to use the Thule Urban Glide 2.0 from birth, it is possible.  You’ll have to fit it with your car seat though.  You can buy an adapter bar which lets you fit various types of car seats. The weight capacity of the Urban Glide 2.0 is 75lbs (which includes the weight of your child and anything you put in the basket).  A typical 5 year old usually doesn’t weigh more than 50lbs, so you can get a lot of use out of the stroller. Just note that the seat width is a bit narrow at just 13.5 inches.  Some parents complain about this, but it doesn’t seem to be a big deal.  The back seat is 21 inches, which is tall enough for older children. Even the canopy is designed in a way so older children won’t hit their heads on it. ## Cons of the Thule Urban Glide 2.0 Like I said, no stroller is perfect – especially when you are looking for an all-terrain jogging stroller. These cons might not be a deal breaker, but they are things to consider before making your purchase. ### Inadequate Storage and Extras The storage basket below the stroller is huge and zips closed.   But, the stroller is significantly lacking in organizational storage. There is no cup holder, snack tray, water bottle holder, or other pockets included with the stroller.  You can buy some of these as extras, but that means an extra expense.  Seriously – a jogging stroller should *at least* have a water bottle holder! ### Fabric Folds Outwards As mentioned before, the Urban Glide 2.0 folds with the fabric facing outwards.  This can make it hard to keep the seat area clean, especially if you take it out in muddy, wet conditions. ### Limited Seat Positions To adjust the seat position, you just move the strap to wear you want it.  I prefer these types of strap-adjusting seats.  It’s a lot easier to use than ones that make you click it in place. The downside is that the stroller seat can only be adjusted a limited amount.  There is no fully-reclining position (though it does get fairly close to a full recline). There also isn’t a fully-upright position.  Granted, most all-terrain strollers don’t have an upright position.  It’s better for the baby to be reclined so the shock doesn’t all go to the head and spine.  However, when using the stroller in everyday life, for snack breaks, or with older kids, it’s nice to have the option of fully-upright.  The [BOB stroller](https://amzn.to/2LmWheN), for example, does allow this position. ### Locking Mechanism Is Cheap and Breaks A lot of people have complained about the locking mechanism on the Urban Glide 2.0.  When you fold the stroller, it has a little plastic piece that is supposed to lock the stroller in folded position.  It is cheap and easily breaks. Once the lock breaks, it is hard to lift the stroller without it opening mid-lift.  There currently is no replacement part available, so you have to replace the entire stroller if this breaks. It’s annoying that such an expensive stroller would use a cheap piece of plastic. ## Thule Urban Glide vs. Urban Glide 2.0 There is only a slight difference in price between the original Urban Glide and the Urban Glide 2.0.   In my opinion, it’s worth paying the extra money for the newer version. Why?  Because the 2.0 has a hand brake – a feature which the original Urban Glide does not have.  This hand brake is really useful when going on hilly or tough terrain. The 2.0 also has more ventilation on the canopy, more color options, reflective strips, and an automatic fold lock. The only benefit of the original Urban Glide is that it is slightly lighter (23lbs vs. 25.3lbs with the Urban Glide 2.0).  Since the hand brake is so useful, I’d say it’s worth to lug around an extra couple pounds. ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** babies, stroller --- ### [Best Lightweight Backpacking Power Banks](https://momgoescamping.com/best-backpacking-power-banks/) **Published:** November 12, 2024 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Whether it’s for your phone, GPS tracker, camera, or headlamps, you are probably going to need some power during your backpacking trip.  A backpacking power bank is simplest way to make sure your devices don’t die on you. Luckily, power banks have gotten a lot lighter over the years and can get more than 1,600mAh of power per ounce.  Some backpacking power banks are even durable and waterproof too. Here’s the best power banks for backpacking.  If you don’t know how much power you will need or what to look for then scroll down to read the complete guide. **Quick Picks:** - **Best Overall:** [NiteCore NB10000](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08JH5SKQ8/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08JH5SKQ8&linkId=33ab1f6171af06de2609763386d0b713) (10,000mAh, 5.3oz) - **Runner Up:** [Anker PowerCore 10000](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0194WDVHI/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B0194WDVHI&linkId=e52cc30e7f125d2214a8347ec3e4c142) (10,000mAh, 6.3oz) - **Best for Charging Multiple-Devices at Once:** [InfinityLab InstantGo](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fb%2Finfinitylab%2Fc%2Fpower-banks) (10,000mAh, 8.8oz) - **Best for High-Power Needs:** [NiteCore NB20000](https://amzn.to/4cC2ayY) (20,000mAh, 11.45oz) or [NiteCore Carbo](https://amzn.to/3XWvawY) (20,000mAh, 10.4oz) - **Best for Winter or High-Altitudes:** [NiteCore Summit](https://amzn.to/3Lj0Q8b) (10,000mAh, 6oz; 20,000mAh, 10.7oz) ## Comparison Table \[table id=105 /\] ## Best Lightweight Power Banks for Backpacking ### 1. NiteCore Power Banks ### ![nitecore lightweight power bank](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/nitecore-lightweight-power-bank.jpg "nitecore lightweight power bank - Mom Goes Camping") **Choose If:** You are willing to pay a bit more for an ultralight power bank #### **Review:** NiteCore makes a lot of lightweight power gear specifically designed for outdoor use.  I have the Gen I version of their NB10000 power bank (shown above) and am quite pleased with how well it’s retained its capacity over 3 years of use. Since I bought my NC10000, NiteCore has updated that model and come out with numerous other ultralight power banks. Regardless of which model you choose, you can’t go wrong.  All models have advanced features, like overcharge protection so you don’t destroy your devices if left plugged in, and trickle charge for  sensitive items like wireless earbuds. I love the simple battery life indicator: three full bars when it’s full, two bars when it’s 70% full, one bar when it’s at 30%, and blinking when it’s almost empty. All NiteCore power banks are water-resistant to IPX5. They are also very rugged since they are made out of a carbon fiber shell. The downside is that NiteCore power banks are significantly more expensive than other backpacking power banks, though. They are also fairly slow to charge and don’t has pass-through charging. #### **NiteCore Power Bank Series:** - **[NB Series](https://amzn.to/4bHmnSC):** These are very lightweight power banks. They have trickle charge for sensitive devices.  They have fast charging and the 20,000mAh version has multiple outlets, so is a good option for thru-hikes where you want to recharge in town quickly. - **[NC Series](https://amzn.to/3O9fuAl) (high altitudes and low temps):** The batteries in these NiteCore power banks don’t swell in high altitudes. It also has a built-in flashlight. - **[Carbo Series](https://amzn.to/3Ljpplq) (impact resistant):** The carbon shell on this series is very resistant to pressure and breaking. - **[Summit Series](https://amzn.to/3LjVAkG) (very low temps):** This power bank series is designed to work at very low temps of -40F. It even has a heating mode to improve efficiency! **Pros** - Very lightweight - Overcharge and over discharge protection - Carbon steel casing - IPX5 water resistant - Cold-weather and high-altitute options **Cons** - Pricy - No pass-through charging **Available at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/4f7Kddo) and [GarageGrownGear](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=8aa14f51-1fb2-4c30-b785-1c6c0a96cd31&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.garagegrowngear.com%2Fcollections%2Fnitecore)** --- ### 2. Anker PowerCore Power Banks ![anker powercore lightweight power bank](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/anker-powercore-lightweight-power-bank.jpg "anker powercore lightweight power bank - Mom Goes Camping") **Choose because:** Reputable brand, great capacity-to-weight ratio, and affordable price #### **Review:** Anker is one of the best known brands for backpacking power banks (as well as other gear like portable solar panels). They have dozens of different power banks in different capacities. It’s actually confusing as heck trying to figure out the difference between them.  For backpacking, the PowerCore series is the best because it has a great weight-to-capacity ratio. Another reason to choose Anker power banks is that they actually deliver close to their advertised efficiency.  Whereas other power banks might only give 2/3 of their listed power, Anker gets up to 90% efficiency. They have a durable design and a good 18 month warranty.  They are actually affordable too, so definitely worth buying instead of a knockoff brand. The only real downside is that these power banks aren’t very fast and aren’t waterproof. #### **Anker PowerCore Models:** - **[PowerCore Compact 5000](https://amzn.to/3Zd4h4Y) (5,000mAh, 4.8oz):** The mAh per ounce on this power bank is actually pretty low (just 1,040mAh per oz.), but it’s a great little power bank that takes up hardly any space in your pack. - **[PowerCore 10000](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0194WDVHI/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B0194WDVHI&linkId=b9d5352322c4058a1b0773631fa11ece) (10,000mAh, 6.35oz):** This has a very compact at 1,575 mAh per ounce.  That makes it one of the lightest backpacking power banks available. Note it is NOT compatible with devices with an input below 50mA, such as some GPS devices. - **[PowerCore 10000 PD](https://amzn.to/3QDSBoD) (10,000mAh, 7.52oz):** It is slightly heavier than the previous version, but has two outputs so you can charge two devices at once. It also recharges significantly faster (3.3 hours vs. 4.7 hours). - **[PowerCore 20100](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00X5RV14Y/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00X5RV14Y&linkId=0fd84461e18cb1f48860689c5c171623) (20,100mAh, 12.6oz):** Choose this power bank if you need to charge multiple devices at once quickly.  It’s got 2 outlet ports at 2.4A each.  It’s also got a great mAh per ounce ratio. **Pros** - Overcharge and over discharge protection - 18 month warranty - Affordable **Cons** - No pass-through - Not water resistant - No PD/QC charging on most models **Available at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3zEdtIn)** --- ### 3. Skullcandy Fat Stash Power Banks ![skullcandy fat stash 2 10000mah lightweight power bank](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/skullcandy-fat-stash-power-bank-lightweight-1024x451.jpg "skullcandy fat stash power bank lightweight - Mom Goes Camping") **Choose If:** You want a lightweight power bank with a digital display #### Review: The Skullcandy Fat Stash power banks don’t seem to have as good of technology as the NiteCore and Anker power banks when it comes to holding a charge and overcharge protection. However, the digital display that shows remaining battery life as a percentage is amazing if you are actively monitoring your remaining juice. The Fat Stash power banks also charge quickly and you can charge 3 devices at once (max 20W output with Fat Stash 2).  If you only need a 5,000mAh power bank, then the Fat Stash Mini has the most capacity-per-weight of any power bank that I’ve found. **Pros** - Fast PD charging - Digital % battery life display - Charge 3 devices at once with Fat Stash 2 model - Affordable **Cons** - No pass-through charging - Not water resistant **Available at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3S1XXML) and [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fb%2Fskullcandy%2Fc%2Fportable-power)** --- ### 4. InfinityLab InstantGo Power Banks ![infinitylab instantgo lightweight power bank](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/infinitylab-instantgo-lightweight-power-bank.jpg "infinitylab instantgo lightweight power bank - Mom Goes Camping") **Choose If:** You need fast, pass-through charging of up to 3 devices at once, and are willing to pay more for it #### Review: InfinityLab InstantGo power banks aren’t made for backpacking, but they are still very lightweight.  The main reason you’d want to get this power bank is because it has 30W PD charging and supports pass-through charging.  When charging 3 devices at once, you get a max output of 18W. There are two versions of the InstantGo power banks: wireless and integrated cable. The integrated cable version is 0.6 ounces lighter. However, the integrated cable is only for output. You can’t recharge with it, so you’ll need to bring another cable if you plan on recharging during your hike.  If you don’t have Qi devices for wireless recharging, though, the integrated cable version is better. Note that there is also a 5000 mAh version of the InstantGo. But, at 5oz, it doesn’t have enough capacity-per-weight to meet the lightweight requirements for backpacking. **Pros** - Pass-through charging - 30W PD charging - Charge 3 devices at once **Cons** - Pricy - Fairly heavy - Not water resistant **Available at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3WjMxGU) and [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fb%2Finfinitylab%2Fc%2Fpower-banks)** --- ### 5. Goal Zero Flip Power Banks [![goal zero flip 24 backpacking power bank](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/goal-zero-flip-24.jpg "goal zero flip 24 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/goal-zero-flip-24.jpg) **Choose If:** You need pass-through charging and don’t mind recharging via a male USB #### Review: Goal Zero is well known for their solar panels and cool gear like lanterns.  They also make a 6,700mAh and a 10,000mAh lightweight power banks for backpacking. The weight-to-power ratio isn’t the best, but the power banks do support pass-through charging. However, I really don’t like the flip design. To recharge the power bank you must fold-out a *male* USB. This is fine if you are bringing an adapter plug (which would add weight).  But, otherwise, you risk the fold-out USB breaking if you hang it off of a connector.  I wouldn’t have even included these power banks here, but someone might prefer the male connector type. **Pros** - Pass-through charging - Two year warranty **Cons** - Pricy - Male USB recharging - Not water resistant **Available at [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07TK5BQ8T/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07TK5BQ8T&linkId=800cb135bc7cf764feee478ff9bee483) and [**REI**](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DGoal%2BZero%2BFlip)** --- ## What About Power Banks with Built-in Solar Panels? [![elze solar power bank](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/elze-solar-power-bank-copy.jpg "elze solar power bank copy - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/elze-solar-power-bank-copy.jpg) I used to think power banks with mini solar panels on them were awesome and practical.  Then I actually tried one.  Guess what? Turns out it is NOT a good idea to leave a power bank out in the blazing hot sun!  The model I had worked for a while and then quickly died.  I’ve heard the same from other users. On top of that, most have no power display so there’s no way of knowing the charge level.  You can easily over-charge the power bank, meaning it gets fried.  But leave it out too little and it won’t have enough power for your needs. If a reputable brand (instead of cheap Chinese generic brands) started making one of these, I might give it a try.  Until then, I’ll keep my power bank and solar panel separate. ## What Capacity Power Bank for Backpacking? Power bank batteries have capacity measured in Milliamp hours, or mAh. This stands for how much power the battery can provide per hour. The amount of capacity you need for a backpacking trip ultimately depends on which devices you’ll bring and how often you use them. For example: if your device requires 1000 Milliamps per hour, then a 3,000mAh battery will (in theory\*) keep it going for 3 hours. ### General Guidelines: - **Overnight trip:** 5,000mAh\* - **Two-three night trip:** 10,000mAh - **Week long trip:** 10,000 or 20,000mAh - **Photo gear:** 20,000mAh (and also a [lightweight solar panel](https://momgoescamping.com/best-ultralight-solar-panels/)) **\*Note:** In my humble opinion, 5000mAh power banks are a waste. They don’t weigh much less than a 10,000mAh power bank, but give you double the energy (you never know when something might go wrong and you have to extend your trip!). So, unless you only go on short backpacking trips, getting a 10,000 power bank is probably the way to go. ### Calculate Exact Power Requirements: For a week-long backpacking trip, a 10,000mAh power bank is more than adequate for me.  This is enough to recharge my headlamp and camera.  I mainly use a paper map for navigation though, so don’t need to charge my phone or a GPS. If I was relying on more gadgets, I would need a 20,000mAh power bank. If you want to figure out *exactly* how much power you need, follow these steps: 1. Tally up the mAh/day amount for each gadget you are bringing. 2. Multiply this number by the how many days your backpacking trip will be (or how long until you can recharge it). 3. To play it safe, assume that the power bank will only deliver 66% of its advertised capacity. 4. Divide the total mAh you need by 0.66. **Example**: If you need 3,000mAh of power to keep your phone charged for a 3-day backpacking trip. **3,000/0.66 = 4,545mAh** **Important: No power bank delivers its full capacity!** Because of efficiency issues, most power banks will only deliver 66-74% of the listed capacity.  So, a 10,000mAh power bank may only really give you 6,666mAh. ([1](https://www.powerbankguide.com/powerbank-capacity-explained/), [2](https://blog.banggood.com/the-secret-marketing-trick-behind-powerbank-capacity-29982.html)) Some better power banks are more efficient, like the Anker power banks that deliver around 80%-90% of their listed capacity. This is why Step 4 has you dividing your power needs by 0.66. ### Size Up for “Just In Case” I am a bit of a disaster prepper and always like to consider worst-case-scenarios.  You never know when you [might have to spend an unexpected night on the mountain](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-packing-list/) because of bad weather or an injury. So, it’s good to size up your power bank just in case. It’s not worth shedding 2oz from your pack weight if your safety is put at risk by letting your navigator battery die! Aside from safety, consider whether gear dying would ruin your trip. For example, would you be devestated if your camera battery went dead and you couldn’t take photos until the next recharge at town?   If yes, then it’s probably worth the weight of carrying a much larger power bank. ### Power-Saving Tips By using your devices smartly, you can drastically cut back on power needs.  For example, - A Garmin inReach should last you weeks if you only turn it on when sending messages. - Bringing a GPS device will use less battery than if you use your phone for navigation. - Keeping your phone in airplane mode and disabling unnecessary apps will allow the phone battery to last much longer. ## Choosing a Backpacking Power Bank Aside from capacity, you’ll also want to look at the weight of the power bank, you’ll want to look at: - mAh per ounce - Charging speed - Number of outlet ports - Brand quality - Other features ### mAh per Ounce It’s pointless to get a lightweight power bank if it won’t meet your power requirements.  So, when it comes to weight, you should really **look at** **mAh per ounce.**  Aim for at least 1,400 mAh per ounce.  If you need special features, then you might only get 1,000 mAh per ounce. ### Charging Speed and PD/QC Look at both the input and output speeds of the power bank.  Slow power banks will only charge at around 2A whereas the faster ones charge at 3A.  Most good power banks also have Power Delivery (PD) and/or Quick Charge (QC) capabilities. Confusingly, PD/QC speed is listed in watts instead of amps, and is usually 18W or 20W per port.  For comparison, a 2.4A charger at 5V delivers 12W. If you are just recharging some small devices like headlamps on short backpacking trips, charge speed doesn’t matter much. However, **charge speed matters on long thru-hikes!** This is because you will need to recharge your power bank in town and it is *first come, first serve*. On popular trails, you may have to wait in line for HOURS! You will go crazy waiting around town for your power bank to refill. One backpacker even noted how he had to stay at hotels in order to refill his power bank, so it ended up being expensive too. **Notes:** - If there are multiple out ports, the speed is divided between the ports.  For this, you’ll need to pay attention to “max output.” - How fast a power bank can charge also has a lot to do with the cables.  So make sure you invest in some good quality cables and not the cheap Chinese knockoff ones. - Faster isn’t always better.  It can fry sensitive devices like wireless earbuds. Good power banks (like the NiteCore ones) have a “trickle charge” option for these types of devices. - Get an 18w wall charger with two ports for recharging in town.  You’ll be able to charge multiple devices much faster (or can share one slot with another backpacker).  It must be be slim profile so you don’t block the port next to it. ### Pass-through Charging Pass-through charging means you can recharge the power bank while it simultaneously charges devices connected to it. This feature is great to have if your are thru-hiking. Yes, it is more efficient to charge devices directly from an outlet, but then you’d need to worry about bringing extra wall outlet adapters. ### Number of Outlet Ports If you need to charge multiple devices at once, you’ll need more than one outlet.  Just note that charging speed typically reduces when you plug in multiple devices. ### Brand Quality I’ve learned my lesson about buying cheap knockoff brands of power banks.  While some do work well (at first), they tend to lose their capacity quickly.  I had one completely stop charging on me. Luckily it was on a camping trip and not a long backpacking trip. ### Extra Features Some other nice features which are worth paying extra for or even worth the extra weight are: - Digital displays or power level indicators (LOVE this feature) - Water-resistant - Durable casing - Wireless charging ## What About Solar Panels? If you have very high power needs (such as if you are doing a lot of photography), even a 25,000mAH power bank probably won’t cut it.  You’ll want a portable solar panel to keep charged. Bear in mind that solar panels are often hyped up.  They are cool, but require very sunny conditions to work well.  They can also be heavy, bulky, and annoying to worry about.  But, there are plenty of reliable solar panels which range from ultralight 5 watt solutions to higher wattages. See these [best ultralight solar panels for backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/best-ultralight-solar-panels/). ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Backpacking, Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** chargers, ultralight --- ### [32 Calorie-Dense Backpacking Foods which Are Actually Healthy](https://momgoescamping.com/calorie-dense-healthy-backpacking-foods/) **Published:** January 16, 2019 **Author:** Diane **Content:** When backpacking or thru-hiking, you need foods which are loaded with calories but still light enough to carry.  That’s why you’ll find so many hikers eating Fritos for dinner (or making meals like “Frito pie”). Sorry to break it to you, but those calorie-dense junk foods aren’t the best choice.  Nutrition — and not just calories — matters when backpacking! If you are relying on junk foods for your calories when backpacking, you’ll likely end up tired and undernourished. Here’s a quick primer on backpacking nutrition and a list of calorie-dense backpacking foods which actually contain nutrients. **Jump to:** - [Backpacking Nutrition 101](#nutrition) - [Where calories come from](#calories) - [Ratio of carbs to fats to protein](#ratio) - [Why not just eat junk food?](#junkfood) - [Nuts and seeds: not as high-calorie as listed](#nutsseeds) - [List of calorie-dense healthy foods](#list) - [Tips for using calorie-dense foods in your backpacking meals](#tips) **\*Guess what? I wrote a book.  It’s got over 50 healthy recipes for backpacking, plus tons of info on how to plan meals.  [Learn more here](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/).**[![dehydrator backpacking recipes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/book-with-tablet.png "book with tablet - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/) \[sta\_anchor id=”nutrition” /\] ## Backpacking Nutrition 101 ![healthy backpacking food](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/healthy-backpacking-food.jpg "healthy backpacking food - Mom Goes Camping") Backpacking nutrition is a really complex subject.  And, while there is tons of research into nutrition for athletes like marathon runners, there is very little research about backpacking nutrition. Here’s the gist of what you need to know: \[sta\_anchor id=”calories” /\] ### Where Calories Come From A calorie is just a unit of measurement.  They do NOT give us energy!  However, calories do come from nutrients which can provide energy for us.   These are carbs, proteins, and fats. - **Carbs:** 1 gram of carbs = 4 calories - **Proteins:** 1 gram of protein = 4 calories - **Fats:** 1 gram of fat = 9 calories As you can see, fats are the most calorie-dense foods available.  However, our bodies primarily use glycogen (which comes from carbs) as energy when backpacking.  Thus, it is important to include a lot of carbs in your backpacking diet and not just fatty foods.  You also need proteins to help repair muscles. \[sta\_anchor id=”ratio” /\] ### Ratio of Carbs to Fats to Proteins When planning your backpacking meals, you want most of your calories to come from carbs.  The next biggest chunk of calories should be from fat and the remaining from protein.  Here’s how it breaks down: - 50% of calories from carbs - 35% from fat - 15% from protein \*There is a lot of conflicting advice on these ratios.  However, this is the most common recommendation. \[sta\_anchor id=”junkfood” /\] ## Why Not Just Junk Food? ![junk food when backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/fritos-1.jpg "fritos - Mom Goes Camping") As far as calorie-density goes, junk food like Fritos and Pringles come out on top.  And, if there is ever a time to eat junk food, it is while your body is actively burning through calories while you hike. But junk food isn’t the best solution for lightweight backpacking food.  Junk food is completely lacking in micronutrients which your body needs for things like preventing muscle cramps, delivering oxygenated blood throughout the body, and keeping your mind sharp. **The sugary carbs found in most junk food will also cause your blood sugar to spike quickly and crash.  That means you end up tired and hungry.** On top of this, the fats found in junk foods are usually *long chain tryglicerides (LCTs)* The body isn’t very good at converting these into energy.  By contrast, the *medium chain triglycerides (MCTs)* which are found in healthy sources of fat don’t have as many calories per weight.  However, **the body converts these healthy fats into energy much faster and efficiently**. (*[1](https://nutritionreview.org/2013/04/medium-chain-triglycerides-mcts/), [2](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3826680/))* **\*For more on this topic, read this in-depth [Guide to Backpacking Nutrition](https://momgoescamping.com/nutrition-backpacking-thru-hiking/).** \[sta\_anchor id=”nutsseeds” /\] ## Nuts and Seeds As a Calorie-Dense Food? ![nuts calorie density](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/nuts.jpg "nuts - Mom Goes Camping") Nuts and seeds are usually considered the “best” healthy backpacking food in terms of calorie-density.  Yes, they do contain loads of calories per ounce plus a lot of protein and healthy fats. But, if you’ve ever dug a cathole while backpacking, then you know much of those nuts are going to waste! You’ll often see entire pieces of nuts in your poop!!! Obviously, a lot of those calories are never entering your system. Understand that calories are calculated using an outdated, inaccurate method.  They take the food, burn it, and calculate how much energy is created.  Our bodies don’t burn up food though! This is why studies (like the ones reported on [here](https://medicalxpress.com/news/2018-03-nuts-calories-previously-thought.html) and [here](https://www.foodnavigator-usa.com/Article/2013/03/01/Why-can-we-eat-lots-of-nuts-without-getting-fat)) have found that **almonds and walnuts contain around 20-32%  fewer calories than the label indicates!!!!** ### So, does that mean nuts *aren’t* a good backpacking food? Not necessarily.  Studies have found that chewing nuts – I mean *really* chewing them – results in more calories and fat being absorbed by the body.  Likewise, [studies](https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20210225-are-nut-butters-bad-for-your-health) have found that virtually all of the calories from nut butters are absorbed. **The bottom line? To get maximum calories from your nuts/seeds on the trail:** - Chew them thoroughly! - Or bring nut butters instead of whole nuts \*I actually make really cool dehydrated sauces out of blended nuts, like the cashew-tomato sauce on the pasta shown below.  It’s really filling and insanely calorie-dense.  You can get the recipe in [my eBook](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/). ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/creamy-cashew-tomato-sauce.jpg "creamy cashew tomato sauce - Mom Goes Camping")*This cashew pasta sauce has 163 caloriesoz when dehydrated* \[sta\_anchor id=”list” /\] ## List of Calorie-Dense Backpacking Foods \*Calories listed per 100 grams (3.5oz) \*\*The amount of calories in a food can vary.  A range or approximation has been given for some of the foods. 1. **Oil:** 800-900 calories 2. **Macadamia nuts:** 718 calories 3. **Pecans:** 716 calories 4. **Pine nuts:** 673 calories 5. **Dried coconut milk powder ([buy here](https://amzn.to/2Me7XPG))** About 660 calories 6. **Desiccated coconut meat:** 590-660 calories 7. **Brazil nuts:** 656 calories 8. **Walnuts:** 654 calories 9. **Hazelnuts:** 629 calories 10. **Sunflower seeds:** 619 calories 11. **Dehydrated hummus:** 606 calories 12. **Peanut butter:** About 600 calories 13. **Almonds:** 581 calories 14. **Dark chocolate:** 578 calories 15. **Cashews:** 574 calories 16. **Freeze-dried whole egg powder:** 570-615 calories 17. **Flax meal:** About 500 calories 18. **Dehydrated or freeze-dried beans:** 350-500 calories 19. **Chia seeds:** 490 calories 20. **Bacon bits (meatless):** 476 calories 21. **Roasted soy beans:** 471 calories 22. **Granola:** 300-490 calories 23. **Whole wheat crackers:** 443 calories 24. **Parmesan cheese:** 431 calories 25. **Cacao (not cocoa!) powder:** 400 calories 26. **Hemp protein powder:** 387 calories 27. **Meat jerky:** About 315-410 calories 28. **Whey protein powder:** 375-405 calories 29. **Tofu jerky (store bought):** About 350 calories 30. **Dried fruit (unsweetened):** About 240-300 calories 31. **Tortillas:** 200-300 calories 32. **Bagels:** 250 calories \[sta\_anchor id=”tips” /\] ## Tips for Using High-Calorie Backpacking Foods You’ve read that foods like *coconut milk powder* and cacao have lots of calories.  But how the hell do you use these?  It’s not like you are going to choke back dry powders on the trail! Here’s how I incorporate calorie-dense nutritious foods with other ingredients to make tasty backpacking meals. ### 1. Add Healthy Oil to Your Starchy Meals Just bring along a little bottle of a healthy oil with you on the trail (such as olive oil or coconut oil).  Whenever you make quick-cook meals (such as couscous, pasta, or other starchy foods that lack calories), just add a squirt or two of oil.  The oil will also make the food taste much more satisfying. ### 2. Dehydrate Beans and Proteins ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/dehydrated-beans.jpg "dehydrated beans - Mom Goes Camping")*Dehydrated beans* Beans are actually very high in calories.  The issue is that you can’t cook dry beans on the trail and carrying canned beans backpacking is idiotic. Other than instant hummus mix, there aren’t too many trail-friendly solutions for beans. My solution? I just dehydrate my own. 🙂    Cook the beans (or buy canned) and dehydrate them until they are very dry.  They rehydrate very quickly. You don’t even need to cook them to rehydrate.  Just add water and let them sit for about 10 minutes. Take your dehydrated beans and add them to starchy dishes.  Or rehydrate them to use in tortillas or spread on bagels. **\*Check out my eBook with over 50 dehydrator backpacking recipes.  They are all insanely calorie-dense and lightweight!  Just add water and you’ll get a healthy meal. 😀  [Get the eBook here](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/).** ![backpacking food dehydrated hummus](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/dehydrated-hummus.jpg "dehydrated hummus - Mom Goes Camping")*Re hydrated hummus on top of homemade dehydrator red pepper seed crackers this combo is LOADED with calories Get the recipe in [my eBook here](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/)* ### 3. Using Coconut Milk Powder I am in love with coconut milk powder! It is very high-calorie and contains healthy fats.  Just carry a baggy of it with you on the trail.  Add a scoop to your meals.  It is particularly good in soups. \*Don’t mix any milk powder with dehydrated ingredients.  There is moisture in the ingredients which will “activate” the milk powder and make it go bad.  Wait until your meal is cooking to add the coconut milk powder!!! You can buy coconut milk powder on Amazon. You might also find it in Indian stores, if you have one near where you live. - **[Nutricost dehydrated coconut milk powder](https://amzn.to/2Me7XPG) – 189 calories per ounce (6.66 calories per gram)** - **[Opportunity organic dehydrated coconut milk powder](https://amzn.to/2SWvY0e) – 193 calories per ounce (6.83 calories per gram)** ### 4. DIY Energy Bars with Protein Powder ![DIY calorie dense energy bars](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/coffee-balls.jpg "coffee balls - Mom Goes Camping") Making your own energy bars is really easy.  Once you start doing it, you’ll probably never want to buy those overpriced bars again.  I often add protein powder to my bars to give them an extra nutritional kick. Eating protein powders is actually better than drinking it.  Liquid calories get absorbed very quickly, causing that spike-then-crash.  You’ll get much more sustainable energy if you mix the protein powder with solid foods! Here’s a recipe for one of my favorite DIY energy bars (rolled them into balls but they could be flattened into bars too).  They have COFFEE in them so they really wake you up! 😀 **Recipe:** - Dehydrated banana slices, from 1 banana - 1 cup dried cherries - 1/2 cup almonds - 1 cup pitted dates - 1 Tbsp. instant coffee (or more if you like!) - 1/4 cup neutral-tasting protein powder (I used coconut protein powder) **Instructions:** 1. Add a bit of each ingredient to a food processor and pulse 2. Gradually keep adding ingredients and pulsing 3. The mixture will come together. There should still be some chunks. You don’t want a paste! 4. Form into balls. **This recipe has 161 calories per ounce.**  **You can get this recipe and more in [my eBook here](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/).** ### 5. Add Cacao to Meals Cacao is an awesome backpacking food because it has lots of calories as well as nutrients like zinc and antioxidants.  Note that cacao is NOT the same as cocoa!  Cocoa only has about half the calories and doesn’t contain the nutrients. You can easily incorporate cacao into homemade protein bars.  Or, add a scoop of it to your breakfast oatmeal.  There are also these little packs of fancy hot chocolate made from real cacao.  Sip one for dessert – they contain about 100-120 calories per ounce. [**Equal Exchange Organic Hot Cocoa Mix**](https://amzn.to/2VXlboO) (contains milk) has 116 calories per oz/ 4.1 calories per gram. ### 6. Nuts and Maximizing Calories As mentioned before, many of the calories in nuts don’t get absorbed.  Even considering a loss of up to 30%, nuts still have lots of calories and are great trail snacks. Instead of just eating nuts in your GORP though, you can incorporate them into your meals.  I’ve got a lot of these nut-based recipes in [my eBook](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/). If you want to keep things simple, consider sprinkling sunflower seeds on your pasta or adding flax meal to your oatmeal. **Also read: [How to Carry Peanut Butter Backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-carry-peanut-butter-when-hiking-or-backpacking/)** ### 7. Make DIY Freeze-Dried Meals Freeze-dried meals from companies like Mountain House are very convenient.  But they are also very expensive (especially considering that they mostly contain rice or pasta). Since you’ll probably need to eat two bags to feel full, they aren’t even that great in terms of weight. Instead of buying freeze-dried meals, you can easily make your own.  Just buy bulk freeze dried foods and combine them with dry ingredients from the supermarket (like couscous, pasta, or instant rice).  **You can read this [guide to making your own DIY freeze dried meals from bulk ingredients](https://momgoescamping.com/diy-freeze-dried-backpacking-mealss/).** **Want more advice on backpacking food? Check out these posts:** - [**Complete Guide to Backpacking Food**](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-food/) - **[Best Freeze-Dried Backpacking Food Brands](https://momgoescamping.com/best-backpacking-meals/)** - [**List of Vegan Freeze-Dried Backpacking Meals**](https://momgoescamping.com/vegan-freeze-dried-meals/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Backpacking, Camping & Backpacking Food **Tags:** calories, food, health, meals, nutrition, ultralight --- ### [How to Call for Help in the Wilderness: Best Backpacking Communication Devices](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-communication-devices/) **Published:** November 25, 2017 **Author:** Diane **Content:** As much as I love Mother Nature, I also know that she isn’t always kind.  Even if you are completely prepared, bad things can happen.  Nobody is immune to injury, sickness, getting lost, animal attacks… In addition to a [first aid kit](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-first-aid-checklist/) and hiking “survival” items (see list [here](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-packing-list/)), it’s recommended that you carry a way of calling for emergency help. ## Can’t I Just Use My Phone to Call for Help? No. Your cell phone is not reliable in the backcountry. Aside from the fact that cell phones break and run out of battery, there’s the issue of coverage. In many rural and backcountry areas, you simply won’t get a signal.  You can’t call 911 in places where there’s no signal. ## How to Call for Help in the Wilderness? In the past, you would need an expensive satellite phone to make calls from remote places.  Now, there are devices which utilize the satellite system, but without the bulky phone or high costs. **Backcountry communication devices can be broken down into two types:** - **Personal Locator Beacon (PLB)** - **Satellite Emergency Notification Device (SEND)** ## What’s a Personal Locator Beacon? A Personal Locator Beacon is a smaller version of the rescue beacons which were used on ships and boats. It utilizes satellite systems to send out a distress call to rescue agencies. ### Registering a PLB When you buy a Personal Locator Beacon (PLB), you register it with the appropriate agency of where you are going.  In the USA, you register it with the NOAA.  You’ll put in information like your name and medical conditions so rescuers can better help you.  If you sell the PLB or let someone else borrow it, then you’ll need to re-register it. ### How to Use a PLB If you need help, you activate the PLB.  To prevent accidental alarms, there is a 3-stage activation process. Once the SOS alarm is activated, the device uses the Cospas-Sarsat satellite system to relay the distress call to the appropriate agency.  That agency will then reach out to local rescue teams. All modern, good PLBs will send out your GPS coordinates with the distress call so rescuers can find you more easily. ### PLB Battery Life One of the great things about PLBs is that they have a special lithium-ion battery which is not turned on until the device is activated.  That means the battery can last for *years*.  There’s no need to carry a charger with you for the PLB. The only issue with this is, when the battery does need replaced, you’ll have to send in the entire device. ### Limitations A PLB only sends out an SOS call.  You can’t send any text info about the emergency, so rescuers won’t know if you’ve fallen down a cliff or are lost in the woods.  There’s no way to receive info either.  So, you won’t know if rescue services are on the way. PLBs also won’t give you any additional features, like the ability to make calls, send texts, receive texts, or be used as a navigational tool. ### Costs Compared to SEND devices, PLBs usually have a higher up-front cost (the cheapest backpacking PLB is around $280 at time of writing).   However, they don’t require any subscription.  This makes them an affordable choice if you don’t need additional services. ### Pros/Cons **Pros:** - **No subscription fees** - **Batteries last for years** - **Very strong signal; works in very remote places** - **Works worldwide **Cons:** - **Only sends SOS messages** - **Can’t cancel SOS messages** - **Must be registered** **The bottom line?** A PLB is great if you are only interested in being able to send out an SOS call in emergencies.  If you want more features, then you’ll need a Satellite Messenger. ### Recommended PLB: The ACR PLB can be used anywhere in the world. The battery has a 7-year shelf life. Once turned on, the battery lasts for 24 hours or more.  It weighs just 4oz and has a location accuracy of 100 meters. It currently costs around $289 at REI. See it [here](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F156622%2Facr-electronics-rescueme-plb1-personal-locator-beacon). ![personal location beacon](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/personal-location-beacon.jpg "personal location beacon - Mom Goes Camping") ## What Is a SEND Device? SEND stands for “Satellite Emergency Notification Device.”  Like a PLB, it also uses the satellite system to relay messages.  However, they are much more popular than PLBs because of how many things they can do.  There are two major brands of satellite messengers: Garmin and SPOT. ### How SEND Works SEND uses private satellite systems, which is why they require a subscription.  When you use SEND for a distress call, it will send your info to the GEOS International Emergency Response Coordination Center which is based in Houston.  The team there will then coordinate with the appropriate rescue agency. ### Using SEND to Communicate with Loved Ones In addition to sending SOS messages, many SEND devices can also be used to communicate with family members.  The method of communication varies drastically depending on the device and subscription you have. For example, my dad has a SPOT Gen3 device that he uses while thru-hiking.  It which him to send us 3 pre-set messages (Ok, Help, or SOS) plus one custom message up to 160 characters.  Every evening, he just pushes the OK button and we get a message with his GPS coordinates (and a link to a map so we can track him). The “Help” button is generally interpreted as “Need help, but isn’t life-threatening.”  The SOS button should only be used in life-threatening emergencies as rescue services will be immediately contacted. **Some examples of the custom message include:** - Trip milestone reached - Changed itinerary - In trouble and will send OK message ASAP - Something happened. Not an emergency. May be delayed or change my itinerary. (source [1](https://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php/115795-Your-personal-SPOT-Gen3-quot-OK-quot-and-quot-Custom-quot-messages), [2](https://andrewskurka.com/spot-messenger-best-practices-definitions-protocols/)) With other plans and devices, you could send SMS messages back and forth.  These devices and subscriptions are much more expensive though. **NOTE:** There is a delay (up to 5 minutes) when sending the messages.  So, if you hit the “send” button and turn off the device right away (to save on battery), the message might not be sent.  We figured this out when my dad left on a trip and we didn’t get his evening messages after the Day 1 check-in.  We had to send the forest ranger out to check on him and he was severely embarrassed and pissed. ### Other Features of SEND Devices Trying to choose a SEND device for backpacking is incredibly complicated.  There are a lot of different features, some of which you might find very valuable. You might be able to skip a GPS navigator if your SEND plan has one built-in. Here’s an overview of SEND features: - **Social media posting/check-in** - **Navigational features:** Like maps, digital compass, route planning, waypoint setting - **Weather reports** - **GPS Tracking:** You can choose how frequently the device maps your position, ranging from every 30 seconds to once every 4 hours. - **Bluetooth connectivity:** Some devices will connect to your phone via Bluetooth so you can message with your phone. ### Costs: Because SEND devices use private satellite systems, they require a subscription.  Depending on what features you want, the subscription costs can be quite high. With SPOT, the basic plan currently costs about $200 per year plus a $19 activation fee. This plan gives you the ability to send unlimited pre-set messages plus tracking at 5, 10, 30, or 60 minute intervals. Note that battery life will drain faster with more frequent tracking. If you want additional features, like more frequent tracking or the ability to send/receive custom messages, you’ll have to pay for these features as an add-on.  Messages on SPOT, for example, cost $50 for 500 messages. Garmin provides many more plans than SPOT.  Their inReach Recreation plan is very similar to the SPOT basic plan.  It costs about $100 more per year.  However, there is an option to pay monthly (which isn’t possible with SPOT; you have to pay for a full year). So, if you are only backpacking 1 or 2 months out of the year, you can just pay for those months and it ends up being cheaper than a SPOT subscription. ### Signal Strength and Coverage Compared to PLBs, the signal isn’t as strong with SEND.   In very thick vegetation or places like canyons where the signal might be obstructed, the SOS message might not get through.  With that said though, SEND is generally very reliable. Garmin devices offer worldwide coverage, even in completely off-the-grid places overseas.  By contrast, SPOT devices have limited coverage.  They’ll cover the entire USA, Canada, Mexico, Australia, and Europe, but some other places might not be covered.  You’ll have to check their coverage map. **Note:** Check local rules before using a PLB or satellite messengers abroad.  Some countries (with paranoia-levels of security) don’t allow these types of devices. ## Which SEND Device to Get? For backpacking, there are only 4 devices which are recommended.  Remember that Garmin offers monthly subscription plans whereas SPOT plans are yearly.  So, if you are only occasionally using the device, using Garmin devices will work out to be cheaper. **In short:** - **Ultralight backpacking and minimalists:** SPOT Gen3 or Garmin inReach Mini - **Need basic two-way messaging:** Garmin inReach Mini - **Want full features, including two-way messaging and navigation:** Garmin inReach Explorer+ ## Garmin SEND Devices for Backpacking ### Garmin inReach Mini ![garmin increach mini](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/garmin-increach-mini-copy.jpg "garmin increach mini copy - Mom Goes Camping") If you want two-way messaging but don’t want a large device, then this is the SEND to choose.  Just be warned that it is very annoying to send messages because you have to move a little arrow on the tiny screen to select letters.  You won’t get any real navigational features with this device though. - **Two-way texting** - **Slow, annoying messaging system** - **50 hour battery life** - **Weather features** - **Size weight:**9 x 2 x 1 in.; 3.5oz - **Check price at:** , [Amazon](https://amzn.to/2JrOIlX) ### Garmin inReach Explorer+ ![garmin increach explorer plus](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/garmin-increach-explorer-plus-copy.jpg "garmin increach explorer plus copy - Mom Goes Camping") This is the send device you want if you need more advanced features, like two-way texting on a keyboard.  There are a lot of great navigational features, so you could skip on a GPS navigator.  The downside is that the device is pretty large and heavy. - **Two-way texting** - **On-screen keyboard** - **Smartphone app** - **Navigation maps and features** - **Weather features** - **Expensive initial purchase** - **Large and bulky** - **100 hour battery life** - **Size weight:**5 x 2.7 x 1.5 in., 7.5oz - **Check price at:** , [Amazon](https://amzn.to/30x5NB0) ## SPOT Devices for Backpacking ### SPOT Gen3 ![spot gen 3 SEND device](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/spot-gen-3-SEND-device.jpg "spot gen 3 SEND device - Mom Goes Camping") This is the most affordable SEND device.  It is very basic, but the messaging system makes it very easy to use.  My dad uses this one; my siblings bought it for him so my mom would stop worrying while he was on his thru-hikes. - **Small and lightweight** - **Sends 4 preset messages** - **Cannot receive messages** - **150 hour battery life** - **Size weight:**4 x 2.5 x 1 in., 4oz - **Check price at:** , [Amazon](https://amzn.to/2Jtlgft) ### Spot X ![SPOT X send device](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/spot-x-send-device.jpg "spot x send device - Mom Goes Camping") The standout feature on this device is that it has a keyboard (much like old Blackberry phones). That means you can send out messages easily.  With the Garmin Mini device, you have to use a tiny arrow to select letters – which is time-consuming and annoying – or connect the device to a phone, which is one more set of batteries to worry about.  The battery life of the Spot X is also incredibly impressive. - **Two-way messaging** - **QWERTY keyboard** - **Large and bulky** - **240 hour battery life** - **Built-in compass** - **Size weight:**5 x 2.9 x 0.9 in., 6.8oz - **Check price at:** , [Amazon](https://amzn.to/2S9D3Li) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Backpacking, Camping & Backpacking Gear, Camping Safety, Hiking **Tags:** gear, safety --- ### [Pregnancy and Babywearing Jackets for Hiking or Cold Weather?  3 Good Options](https://momgoescamping.com/pregnancy-babywearing-jackets/) **Published:** July 11, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Considering how much useless stuff they make for pregnancy and new parents, there surprisingly aren’t too many options for jackets.  Especially if you are outdoorsy and want to do something like [backpack while pregnant](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-while-pregnant/), [hike with your baby](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-with-baby/) or [take your baby outdoors in cold weather](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-baby-toddler-cold/). However, there are some options.  They are jacket extenders, maternity/babywearing jackets and carrier covers.  I’ll go over the pros and cons of each option, as well as the options actually suitable for hiking. ## Option 1: Softshell Jacket Extenders ![jacket extender for pregnancy and babywearing](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/jacket-extender-for-pregnancy-and-babywearing.jpg "jacket extender for pregnancy and babywearing - Mom Goes Camping") **What It Is:** A jacket extender is a panel which zips or connects to the zipper of your jacket.  You use a panel which is wider at the bottom to fit your belly while pregnant, and use a panel which is wider at the top for baby carrying.  For hiking and outdoorsy activities, you’ll need a softshell jacket extender. **Pros:** - Use existing jacket - Can use on multiple jackets (lets your partner baby carry too) **Cons:** - Front carry only - Annoying to take on/off when switching between jackets - Not many options - For infants only ### Recommended: Make My Belly Fit Universal Jacket Extender ![MakeMyBellyFit Universal Jacket Extender for Maternity and Babywearing, fits MOST zips, black, one-size](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/31e6WAvhUTL._SL500_.jpg) The Make My Belly Fit jacket extender is made from a water-resistant, breathable softshell material with a removable fleece lining.  It’s perfect for hiking, bad weather and winter. This jacket extender definitely not cheap but it has one of the best designs you’ll find.  The extender slides over your existing zipper, so you don’t have to worry about whether the zippers are compatible or the right length.  Then you just zip the front panel in place. Because the jacket extender is universal, you can put it on any jacket.  Just be warned that it does take a few minutes to remove and re-attach the jacket extender.  It’s hard to do while still wearing the jacket.  So don’t think you can just swap the extender out in the middle of a hike or winter walk! There are little snaps on the extender.  These allow you to adjust the extender panel for pregnancy use (panel wider on the bottom) or for baby wearing (panel wider on top). **[Get it here](https://amzn.to/43qyeAE)** ## Option 2: Maternity/Baby-Wearing Jacket [![wanderlilng confluence 4 in 1 maternity and baby wearing jacket](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/wanderlilng-confluence-4-in-1-maternity-and-baby-wearing-jacket.jpg "wanderlilng confluence 4 in 1 maternity and baby wearing jacket - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/wanderlilng-confluence-4-in-1-maternity-and-baby-wearing-jacket.jpg) **What It Is:** A maternity/baby-wearing jacket is a normal jacket which has an extender panel that allows for maternity or front babywearing.  These are sometimes called “3-in-1 maternity jackets” because you can wear it pregnant, baby carrying or without the extender. There are also “4-in-1 maternity jackets”.  These ones have a zipper in the back where you can add a panel.  This allows you to wear the jacket while babywearing in the back position too. **Pros:** - Front and back baby carrying position - Panels made to fit the jacket exactly - Can use with toddlers **Cons:** - Expensive - Not many options ### Recommended: Wanderling Confluence Jacket The Wanderling Confluence is the only 4-in-1 maternity jacket in the United States right now which is suitable for outdoorsy activities like hiking (there aren’t even any good 3-in-1 hiking jackets available in the USA now!). It was invented by a mother of 5 who lives in Colorado and frequently goes hiking with her kids. While you can wear the Wanderling Confluence jacket while pregnant, it’s definitely more geared towards baby-wearing.  The extender panel is a bucket shape so it fits around larger, bulkier hiking carriers. The shape also means the jacket will fit around toddler children, so you can get more use out of it. Oh, and you can use the extender panel as a diaper changing pad. 🙂 As for the jacket itself, it’s a really nice softhsell. It has a waterproof rating of 3000mm and 8000MVP breathability.  There are lots of interior and exterior pockets, Velcro cuffs and a removable hood.  This is a jacket you can wear hiking even when you aren’t wearing your baby. Be warned that the baby wearing jacket is expensive! If you go hiking frequently though and need a new softshell anyway, then it’s not a bad deal. [**Buy here**](https://wanderling.us/MGC10) **Use discount code MGC10 at checkout to get 10% off!** ## Option 3: Baby Carrier Covers [![baby carrier covers](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/baby-carrier-covers.jpg "baby carrier covers - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/baby-carrier-covers.jpg) **What It Is:** This is a cover which you put over your baby carrier.  While it’s possible to use them this way, I don’t recommend using a carrier cover in back or side positions. Your baby won’t get your body heat since they will be positioned over your jacket.  And you will end up sweaty because you’ve got an extra layer (plus your baby!) sitting on top of your jacket. However, carrier covers can be great for front carry.  You 1) put the carrier on under your jacket and 2) keep your own jacket unzipped so your baby gets your body heat.  Because the carrier covers most of your front, it doesn’t matter (much) that your jacket is unzipped. **Note:** Don’t get a baby carrier cover which goes over your neck.  This will be uncomfortable! Get one that snaps into place over any carrier. **Pros:** - Lots of options - Affordable - Can double as bunting bag for stroller - Use with your normal jacket **Cons:** - Some cold air will get in from sides - Harder to regulate your own temperature - Not good for back or side carry ### Recommended: Jan & Jul Carrier Rain Cover ![JAN & JUL Waterproof Baby Rain Cover with Hood and Pockets, Universal for Baby Carriers and Strollers (Black)](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/31GvOd080UL._SL500_.jpg) This is waterproof to 10,000mm and still breathable. It’s lined with fleece, has a hood for your baby and an elastic drawcord so no drafts get in. [Get it here](https://amzn.to/44jL2d1). ### Second Pick: Bebamour universal Carrier Cover This is also a softshell cover with a fleece lining. It’s not as adjustable as the Jan & Jul carrier, or as waterproof, but the hood is removable.  [Get it here](https://amzn.to/44C1aGD). ## Can I Just Wear an Oversized Jacket while Pregnant or Baby-Wearing? When I was pregnant with my first child, I just got an oversized jacket.  It fit over my belly while pregnant and later could still fit around me and my baby in a wrap carrier.   This solution was cheap but not ideal. The sleeves were way too large. Cold air would draft in from the massive bottom of the jacket.  And the poorly-fit jacket definitely didn’t help with my post-pregnancy body image (I know you aren’t supposed to care about what you look like, but dammit becoming a new parent is hard enough without having to also wear clothes you feel like crap in). If you do go this route, choose a jacket which has drawstrings on the bottom.  At least you’ll be able to close the bottom of the jacket to stop drafts. ## Baby Wearing Under vs. Over the Jacket I do NOT recommend baby-wearing on TOP of your jacket for these reasons. - **Your baby won’t get your warmth.** In really cold weather, you need your baby underneath your jacket for this reason. - **You won’t know if your baby is cold or not.** Remember that *you* are walking, but your baby isn’t. So, your baby could be freezing while you are hot.   It’s  easier to regulate your baby’s temperature when you are in the same “jacket zone.” - **You end up sweaty.** The carrier pressed against you destroys any sort of breathability that your jacket has. - **Can’t take off jacket without taking off the baby.** You will get back home and your baby will be sleeping in the carrier. There’s no way of taking of your jacket without taking off the carrier. So you are left with the dilemma of sweating like crazy in your jacket + carrier or potentially waking a sleeping baby. - **Zipping/Unzipping is difficult or impossible.** In front carry position, you can’t unzip your jacket because your baby is in the way.  In back carry position, the straps make it difficult to unzip.  So regulating your own body temperature is even more difficult. ![baby carrier goes underneath your jacket](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/baby-carrier-goes-underneath-your-jacket.jpg "baby carrier goes underneath your jacket - Mom Goes Camping")*The baby carrier should go underneath your jacket as shown in these pictures* If you can’t afford an expensive babywearing jacket, then get an oversized jacket which will fit over you and your baby instead.  It’s seriously better than wearing a baby carrier on top of your jacket, especially while hiking or doing outdoorsy activities. --- ###### Sources and image credits: <https://www.reddit.com/r/babywearing/comments/styp79/baby_wearing_in_cold_weather/>, <https://www.reddit.com/r/babywearing/comments/r0mppc/tips_for_outdoor_winter_baby_wearing/>, “[Picture of my bebe and aied party 004.jp](https://www.flickr.com/photos/10506622@N06/901962211/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [anjaalt](https://www.flickr.com/people/10506622@N06/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking **Tags:** baby, pregnancy --- ### [Best Waterproof Mittens for Toddlers which Actually Stay On (Plus 4 Alternative Solutions)](https://momgoescamping.com/best-waterproof-stay-on-mittens-toddlers/) **Published:** October 18, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Getting a toddler dressed in winter is frustrating enough (so many layers to put on!), but it’s even more challenging when they keep taking their mittens off.  Or, if you are lucky enough to have a toddler which actually wears mittens without a fight, the mittens still end up falling off. Luckily, there are a few brands which have solved this problem by making “stay-on” toddler mittens.  These can be broken down into three basic types: mittens with two cinches, extra-long mittens which go over the jacket and extra-long mittens which go under the jacket. I’ll go over these types below, and also list the best waterproof toddler mittens for each type. ## Quick Picks: - **Best Overall: [Jan & Jul Toddler Mittens](https://amzn.to/3M5wJBO)** - **Best for Seriously Cold Weather: [Stonz Extra Long](https://amzn.to/45BDt1n)** - **Best for Toddlers who Refuse to Wear Mittens: [Snowstoppers](https://amzn.to/3ZZ8ISK)** - **Easiest to Get On: [Burton side zip/fold over mittens](https://amzn.to/490Nk3y)** ## Toddler Mittens with Two Cinches These are the most basic type of “stay-on” mittens made for toddlers.  They have a cinch around the wrist and an extra cinch higher up on the forearm.  The cinches are usually made from elastic, Velcro straps or straps with a clip. The extra cinch has two benefits.  First, it makes it more difficult for the mittens to fall off.  Second, because they go further up, snow is less likely to get up into the jacket sleeve. Your toddler can wear the mittens above their jacket or underneath it.  However, it can be a bit uncomfortable to wear these underneath the jacket, especially if you need to really tighten the cinches.  It also can be hard to pull the jacket sleeve over ones with buckles. ### 1. Jan & Jul Waterproof Toddler Mittens [![jan jul toddler mittens](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/jan-jul-toddler-mittens.jpg "jan jul toddler mittens - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/jan-jul-toddler-mittens.jpg) I love this brand.  They make a lot of cold weather gear for toddlers which is actually suitable for serious play.  Their toddler mittens are waterproof, actually have a temperature rating (no guessing whether they will be warm enough) and are super cute.  The pull-strap over the wrist stays put better than elastic wrists. #### **Features:** - Rated warm to 5°F - Easy to get on - Fleece Thinsulate lining - Textured palm grip - Lots of cute designs - [Get them here](https://amzn.to/3M5wJBO) --- ### 2. Gordini Easy-On Toddler Mittens [![Gordini easy on stay on toddler mittens](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/gordini-easy-on-mittens.jpg "gordini easy on mittens - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/gordini-easy-on-mittens.jpg) These are also really nice mittens.  The shell isn’t waterproof, but there is a waterproof lining inside.  The Velcro closure is easier to use with gloves on your hands, but snow can get stuck in it, so it’s a tradeoff.  Gordini also makes a few other models of waterproof toddler mittens (including ones with a hand warmer pocket), but these are my favorite because the side zips make them easier to get on. #### **Features:** - Side zipper makes them easier to put on - Megaloft insulation - Waterproof insert - Textured palm grip - Available at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/48ZAWRC) --- ### 3. MCTi Waterproof Toddler Ski Mittens ![mcti waterproof toddler mittens](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/2mcti-waterproof-toddler-mittens.jpg "2mcti waterproof toddler mittens - Mom Goes Camping") These mittens aren’t as warm as the Jan & Jul ones and the sherpa lining means they take a bit longer to dry out if wet.  But they have an anti-loss string already attached, so you don’t have to worry about losing them. Just be warned that a lot of daycares don’t allow toddlers to have strings on their mittens because of choking hazards! #### **Features:** - Rated warm to 15°F - Sherpa fleece lining - Textured grip - Anti-loss string - [Get them here](https://amzn.to/3M4NwFc) --- ### 4. Burton Toddler Mittens ![Burton toddler mittens](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/burton-toddler-mittens.jpg "burton toddler mittens - Mom Goes Camping") Burton makes really good quality snow gear.  These toddler mittens are insanelly easy to get on because they have a side zipper. It’s also easy to adjust the fit because of the wrap-around closure.  There’s even a pocket for a hand warmer.  The downside is that the mitts are expensive, but Burton does have a lifetime warranty so a second child will be able to wear these. #### **Features:** - Thermacore insulation - Side zippers and fold-over closure make them easy to get on - Hand warmer pocket - Textured grip - Lifetime warranty - [Get them here](https://amzn.to/490Nk3y) ## Extra-Long *Over* the Sleeve Mittens (Aka Up to the Elbow or Gauntlet Mittens) Like the mittens above, this type also has two cinches. The difference is that the mittens are very long and go all the way up to the elbow.  They are designed to be worn over the jacket. Because the mittens go up so high, they don’t slip down or fall off.  They are also really difficult for a toddler to pull off (though a very motivated toddler could still get them off).  The downside is that they can be a bit annoying to put on, especially if your toddler’s jacket is bulky. ### 5. Stonz Toddler Mittens ![stonz mittens toddlers](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/stonz-mittens-toddlers.jpg "stonz mittens toddlers - Mom Goes Camping") ![stonz mittens toddlers features](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/stonz-mittens-toddlers-2.jpg "stonz mittens toddlers 2 - Mom Goes Camping") Stonz is the best-known brand of toddler mittens which actually stay on.  They are also made for seriously cold weather and rated down to -4F.  The design is really well thought out with features like a fleece “nose wipe” on the top part of the thumb.  These mittens are NOT cheap though! #### **Features:** - Rated warm to -4°F - Thinsulate synthetic insulation - Textured grip - Nose-wipe fleece on thumb - Pricy! - Available at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/45BDt1n) --- ### 6. L-Bow Toddler Mittens ![L-Bow toddler mittens](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/l-bow-mittens.jpg "l bow mittens - Mom Goes Camping") L-Bow is a cheaper alternative to Stonz toddler mittens.  They aren’t as warm as Stonz, but also have thinsulate insulation.  The wrap-around Velcro flap makes it easy to get these on and also get a good fit. #### **Features:** - Easy-entry Velcro flap - Thinsulate insulation - Textured grip - [Get them here](https://amzn.to/3rN3ME5) \*L-Bow also makes elbow-length toddler mittens which have a hand warmer pocket. Those ones don’t have the easy-entry flap though.  See them [here](https://amzn.to/3M5Psxo). --- ### 7. Burton Toddler Grommitt Mittens ![burton grommitt toddler mittens](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/burton-grommitt-toddler-mittens.jpg "burton grommitt toddler mittens - Mom Goes Camping") Here’s another pair of stay-on toddler mittens by Burton.  They are a bit trickier to get on than the Stonz or L-Bow mittens because the sleeve part isn’t as wide. However, they also come with Burton’s lifetime warranty and are more affordable than Stonz. #### **Features:** - Two-layer waterproof shell - Thermacore insulation - Textured grip - Cute designs - Lifetime warranty - [Get them here](https://amzn.to/3ttDwPh) --- ## Long Cuff *Under* the Sleeve Mittens These mittens go on *before* the jacket. They have a long fabric part which extends high up the arm.  The higher up the mittens go, the better they will stay on. Because there aren’t any cinches, they are more comfortable to wear underneath the jacket and you don’t have to worry that cinches are cutting off your child’s circulation. There are some downsides to this type of stay-on mittens though.  The fabric part of the mitten can sometimes slide down.  When this happens, it is impossible to pull them back up without taking off the jacket.  So the fabric ends up uncomfortably bunched up near your child’s cuff. Also, if you toddler needs to take off the mittens, you can’t get them back on without taking the jacket off too. ### 8. Snowstoppers Long Cuff Mittens ![Snnowstoppers long cuff toddler mittens](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/snow-stoppers-toddler-stay-on-mittens.jpg "snow stoppers toddler stay on mittens - Mom Goes Camping") These toddler mitts go all the way up to the elbow and the material has a good stretch to it, so they don’t slide down.  There is a lot of insulation in the mittens plus a double waterproof line, so your little one’s hands will stay warm and dry. #### **Features:** - 40g Thinsulate plus 100g Polyfil insulation - Waterproof outer plus waterproof liner - Textured grip - [Get them here](https://amzn.to/3ZZ8ISK) --- ### 9. Zelda Matilda Xtra Long-Cuff Mittens ![zelda matilda long cuff mittens](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/zelda-matilda-long-cuff-mittens.jpg "zelda matilda long cuff mittens - Mom Goes Camping") The main reason to get these mittens for your toddler is because they actually come in a lot of different sizes so you can get the perfect fit.  Where other mittens have sizes like “2-5 years old,” these ones are 1-2 years, 2-3 years, etc.  The quality is also great and there are lots of colors to choose from. I just wish that the grip went over the entire front of the hand to provide extra waterproofing. #### **Features:** - 80g Thinsulate - Water-resistant shell plus waterproof liner - Textured grip - Lots of sizes and colors - [Get them here](https://amzn.to/3sM9tT3) --- ## Alternative Solutions for Getting Mittens to Stay On If you don’t feel like buying special stay-on mittens for your toddler, you can use these tricks to keep regular cheap mittens on your little one’s hands. ### Put Adult Sock Over Cheap Mittens Put on your toddler’s cheap mittens.  Then put an adult sock (ideally wool or a winter hiking sock) over these mittens, going all the way up to the elbow.  Next, put the jacket on.  Or, put the sock over the jacket sleeve (but the sock will end up stretched out). It is almost impossible for a toddler to get the mitts off with this trick.  The downside is that your toddler won’t have a thumb for grasping things. ### Adapt a Pair of Kid’s Socks to Put Over the Mitten - Cut the toe area off of a pair of kid’s socks. - Then cut a small slit to make a thumb hole. - Put a short pair of mittens on your toddler. - Slide the adapted sock on top of the mittens, pulling it up as high as possible. You can see the instructions [here](https://www.bienenstockplaygrounds.com/blog/mitten-magic-a-helpful-strategy-to-keep-mittens-on-all-winter-long/). ### Snow Suit with Fold-Over Hand Flaps ![jan jul baby toddler snow suit](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/jan-jul-baby-toddler-snow-suit.jpg "jan jul baby toddler snow suit - Mom Goes Camping") I think fold-over hand flaps on snow suits is a must-have on toddler snow suits. If the weather isn’t too cold, you can just use the flaps without any mittens underneath.  If it is very cold, you put the mittens on and then fold the suit over them.  It’s great at keeping the mitts from falling off. **Read: [Best Toddler Snow Suits with Fold-Over Hand Flaps](https://momgoescamping.com/best-snow-suits-babies-toddlers/)** ### Tape the Mittens On! I know a lot of moms who use this trick.  Some daycares even tape the kids mittens on before letting them go outside! Depending on the type of mittens your toddler has, you: - Tape the mitts to their sweater before putting the jacket on. You can’t see the tape this way, so it looks less ridiculous. *or* - Tape the mitts to their jacket. Instead of using duct tape, I learned this trick from a mom: Use [hockey shin-guard tape](https://amzn.to/46zFAUK) instead (not the tape that goes around the stick). Shin guard tape is easier to remove and you can tear it easily. **What tricks do you use to keep mittens on your toddler’s hands? Let us know in the comments section below!** --- ###### Resources: <https://www.reddit.com/r/toddlers/comments/z091e7/how_to_keep_mittens_on_hands_is_duct_tape_an/>, <https://www.reddit.com/r/toddlers/comments/9yhuk5/how_do_i_get_my_18mo_to_keep_her_mittens_on/>, <https://www.reddit.com/r/toddlers/comments/z4trqw/mitten_tips/>, <https://www.reddit.com/r/toddlers/comments/zl43zu/best_glovesmittenswarm_hand_methods_for_2yo/>, <https://www.reddit.com/r/Parenting/comments/1rfmne/keeping_their_dmn_gloves_on/>, <https://forums.redflagdeals.com/toddler-wont-wear-mittens-826937/2/>, <https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4920994-toddler-coat-with-attached-gloves>, ###### Image credit: “[Glove help](https://www.flickr.com/photos/quinnanya/39306364574/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [quinn.anya](https://www.flickr.com/people/quinnanya/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear, Camping with Kids --- ### [How to Wear a Backpack while Pregnant](https://momgoescamping.com/wear-backpack-pregnant/) **Published:** November 1, 2017 **Author:** Diane **Content:** The last time I posted was to write about my terrible experience [backpacking while pregnant](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-while-pregnant/).  Now that I’m well into the 2nd trimester and the chronic puking has slowed down (and hopefully will stop soon), I’m ready to start backpacking again.  I’ve got tickets for Egypt booked and plan on camping out in the White Desert. But that leaves me with a new problem: *How the hell am I going to carry a heavy backpack while pregnant?* ## Is It Safe to Wear a Backpack During Pregnancy? Most doctors will say that it is completely okay to wear a backpack (or babywear) throughout pregnancy. Obviously though, you will want to listen to your body.  If you feel pain even without a backpack on, then you probably don’t want to load up your spine any more than it already is with the baby weight. I did come across some who claim that wearing a backpack is a terrible thing to do during pregnancy.  [This midwife](https://www.manhattanmidwife.com/single-post/2017/02/19/The-Pregnancy-Backpack-Dilemma---The-Trouble-with-Backpacks-When-Pregnant) claims that the extra weight of a backpack can stress nerves, interfere with the baby’s development, interfere with blood flow, and impact the position of the baby. Seems to be a bit of an exaggeration though! One mama in the [Babycenter community](https://community.babycenter.com/post/a43714096/backpacking_pregnant) did make a good point about muscle recovery though. “My muscle recovery from hiking was terrible during my last pregnancy. Where I would have been sore for a day normally … I was sore for at least 3! It must just take the body longer to metabolize and repair everything.” So while it may still be *safe* to wear a backpack during pregnancy, it doesn’t necessarily mean it will be comfortable. Pregnancy is the time to go lightweight as possible with your backpack! Also read: [Ultralight Backpacking Tips for Reducing Weight from Your Pack](https://momgoescamping.com/ultralight-backpacking-tips/) ## What Backpacks Do to Your Posture ![what a backpack does to your posture](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/what-a-backpack-does-to-your-posture.jpg "what a backpack does to your posture - Mom Goes Camping") Before we get into how to wear a backpack during pregnancy, we’ve first got to talk about what backpacks do to your posture. A backpack pulls *back* on your body.  To compensate for the weight, your shoulders and neck rotate forward.  The forward posture tilts your pelvis.  This curved spinal posture is known as *kyphosis. (*[1](http://www.taylordergo.com/back-pack-reduces-spinal-loads/)) **Here’s what happens to your muscles:** - Pectorals shorten - Hip flexors shorten - Glutes (butt) lengthen - Mid and lower traps (back muscles) lengthen **This all equals back and hip pain**. ([2](http://elsbethvaino.com/2011/03/better-back-pack-posture/)) Wearing a hip belt helps shift the backpack weight away from the shoulders and neck and onto your pelvis.  When you are in your 2nd and 3rd trimester though, you aren’t going to be able to wear a hip belt comfortable.  So, you are stuck with the weight on your shoulders and will likely end up in a kyphosis position. ![kyphosis](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/kyphosis.png "kyphosis - Mom Goes Camping")Notice the upper spinal curve of kyphosis ## What Pregnancy Does to Your Posture At the risk of sounding like one of those “*women were put on the earth to bear children*” assholes, our bodies *were* built to carry a baby for 9 long months. Women actually have different spinal structures than men.  Three of our lower vertebrae are interlocked (as opposed to just two in men) so they are stronger.  They are also spaced further apart so they can flex backwards more.  This is so our spines can better adjust to the weight of a heavy baby without being damaged. ([3](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4868213/)) That doesn’t mean the weight of carrying a baby doesn’t take its toll. As the baby and our breasts get larger, our centers of gravity shift towards the front. To compensate, some women lean backwards.  This puts a lot of stress on the hips, knees and ankles.  It also makes the woman’s spine curve so her butt sticks out in what is known as *lordosis. (*[4](https://news.nationalgeographic.com/), [5](https://www.familyeducation.com/pregnancy/things-avoid-while-pregnant/heavy-lifting-during-pregnancy), [6](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4868213/)) **Pretty much all women will get some degree of lordosis during pregnancy** (our spines are designed to do this).  But some women also start to lean forward.  The result is that they end up with both lordosis and kyphosis.  Basically, they’ve got S-shaped spines. ([7](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25155835)) Add to this the fact that the hormone relaxin loosens muscles and ligaments during pregnancy to prepare for birth.  Your muscles have to work hard as hell to keep your spine stable.  No wonder women experience so much lower back pain during pregnancy! ([8](http://blog.onyababy.com/2013/12/babywearing-while-pregnant-1/)) The image below from [Braceability](https://www.braceability.com/back-problems-injuries/pregnancy-back-pain) shows how a woman’s posture suffers during pregnancy.  You can also find a really good image of lordosis/kyphosis throughout pregnancy [here](http://solarey.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Spine-09.jpg). ![pregnancy posture](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/how-you-should-be-standing-while-pregnant-upright-pregnancy-posture.jpg "how-you-should-be-standing-while-pregnant-upright-pregnancy-posture - Mom Goes Camping") ## The Combined Effect on Posture? Wearing a backpack gives you kyphosis (curved upper spine). Pregnancy gives you lordosis (curved lower spine) *and* kyphosis. The combined effect can be disastrous to your posture and cause you a lot of pain! Again, that doesn’t necessarily mean it is dangerous for you to wear a backpack during pregnancy.  You just need to make some adjustments. ## Pregnancy Backpack Solutions The obvious solution would be to have someone carry most of your gear for you during pregnancy so you don’t need to wear a heavy backpack.  That answer doesn’t help (especially when you’ve already got tickets booked for your next trip).  So, here are some solutions to make wearing a backpack during pregnancy easier. ### Pack Your Backpack Differently during Pregnancy Typically, backpacks should be packed so the heaviest items are in the middle and top.  This assumes that you will be able to wear a hip belt and transfer the weight to your pelvis.  Since you can’t do this during pregnancy, you’ve got to make some adjustments. I started looking closely at the [Aarn Tate method of backpack carrying](https://www.aarn-usa.com/pages/optimizing-packing-to-reduce-strain-and-energy-consumption).   The basic idea is that you divide the backpack load between a back pack and a front pack.  This counterbalance methods prevents your shoulders from tilting forward (kyphosis) to compensate. When looking at pictures of the Aarn Tate method, you’ll realize that the front pack is a lot like a baby bump.  So, just act as though your baby bump is the front pack and pack your backpack with the method. The image below compares the traditional packing method with the Aarn Tate method of packing.  Since you won’t be wearing a front pack (aka Bodypack), substitute “medium” for “heavy” and so forth. ![Aarn Tate method of packing a backpack](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/pregnancy-packing-a-backpack.png "pregnancy packing a backpack - Mom Goes Camping") **With this method you:** - Put heavy items near the *bottom* instead of the top. This helps shift the center of gravity so you don’t lean forward. - Light items goes near the top. - Use a slim backpack - Choose a shorter backpack instead of one that goes to your head It isn’t just Aarn Tate which touts this packing method.  The US military commissioned a [study](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4668178/) which found that low center of gravy backpacks improved trunk stability.  In translation? Putting heavy items near the bottom helps when your core muscles are practically non-existent from baby bump! ### Use a Shorter Backpack Standard backpacking packs (especially ones designed for men) go way up to your head.  This is fine when you’ve got a hip belt to help transfer the weight to your pelvis. However, when you are pregnant and already have an off-kilter center of gravity and no hip strap, a tall pack is just going to strain the heck out of your shoulders.   Using a shorter pack will reduce shoulder strain so you don’t lean forward to compensate. ### Use BackTPack to Distribute Weight to the Sides I personally haven’t tried these packs but they seem to be very good at reducing spinal loads.  The idea is that you balance the load between two packs.  The packs are strapped together in a way which keeps them from moving around too much.  They even advertise the backpacks specifically for pregnant women. Your shoulders will still probably end up pulling upwards to compensate for the load.  However, this is a lot better than pulling *forward* and getting yourself in a kyphosis posture. I don’t think these would be good for backpacking. However, they seem awesome for everyday use and easily fit a laptop. ![backpack for pregnant women](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/backTpack-246x300.jpg "backTpack - Mom Goes Camping") ### Add an Extra Sternum Strap to Use above the Belly You won’t be able to use your backpack hip belt during pregnancy, which means your pack can wobble around a lot. One easy solution is to add a thick sternum strap – but place it so it goes above your belly (as opposed to below). Just don’t tighten it too much or it might feel like it is restricting your breathing! ![sternum strap](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/sternum-strap-300x143.jpg "sternum strap - Mom Goes Camping") ### Exercise! Most importantly, do your best to stay active during pregnancy.  There are a lot of exercises you can do during pregnancy to strengthen your back muscles and even your core too. I recommend getting a good trainer (after checking with your doc, of course).  Even though I already know which exercises to do, having the trainer to check my posture has been indispensable. Some good exercises and stretches for pregnant backpackers are: - Standing pelvic tilts - Arch and rounds - Quadriped arm/leg rises - Side planks - Pigeon pose stretch - Squats - Lunges - Skater squats - Wall psoas hold - Calf raises - Rowing Be sure to avoid any exercise that uses your ab muscles so you don’t end up with diastasis recti, a condition when your abs separate too far. ## Use Trekking Poles ![cascade mountain trekking poles](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/cascade-mountain-trekking-poles-300x215.jpg "cascade mountain trekking poles - Mom Goes Camping") And while we are at it, hiking poles should be considered mandatory when backpacking pregnant.  They’ll help add stability and take strain off of your spine. Here’s [what you need to know about hiking poles](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-poles-pros-cons/). --- ###### Image credits: [Kyphosis\_Degenerative](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kyphosis_Degenerative.png) by [BruceBlaus](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:BruceBlaus "User:BruceBlaus"), [Creative Commons](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Creative_Commons "w:en:Creative Commons") [Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.en) “[39 weeks pregnant and hiking](https://www.flickr.com/photos/superic/30009614391/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [Eric Willis](https://www.flickr.com/people/superic/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking **Tags:** back pain, pregnancy, spine --- ### [The Best Trekking Pole Tents for Lightweight Backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/best-trekking-pole-tents/) **Published:** December 9, 2024 **Author:** Diane **Content:** One of the best ways to reduce weight from your pack is to choose multi-purpose gear, such as tents that use your trekking poles for pitching instead of tent poles. Honestly though, a lot of trekking pole tents suck: they have issues like being difficult to pitch or condensation problems. Here are my picks for the best trekking pole tents (which are actually well designed!) plus what you need to know before buying. ## **Top Picks Overview:**  - **Best Overall:** [REI Flash Air 2P](https://alnk.to/ge74eOb) (Hybrid single wall; 40oz) - **Runner Up:** [Six Moon Designs Lunar Solo 1P](https://amzn.to/3ZKqomw) (Hybrid single wall; 26oz) - **Best Budget Option:** [Mier Lanshan 2P](https://amzn.to/3LDMm3W) -Double wall, 44.8oz ### **Comparison Table** \[table id=43 /\] \*Scroll down to read the full reviews and see all of the best trekking pole tents. --- **Want to really cut weight from your pack? Try dehydrating your own meals.** Some of my backpacking meals have over 150 calories per ounce, which means I can cut lots of weight from my pack without having to sacrifice flavor or nutrition. Just add water to rehydrate. I’ve written all about it in my eBook.  The book contains loads of info about backpacking meal planning plus over 50 recipes. [![dehydrator backpacking recipes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/book-with-tablet.png "book with tablet - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmetasheck50off) **[Get the eBook here](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmetasheck50off).  I’ll even give you 50% off 🙂** --- ## Best Trekking Pole Tents Reviewed ### 1. [REI Flash Air](https://alnk.to/ge74eOb) (1p and 2p) **Best for:** UL trekking tent which is easy to set up and withstands bad weather ![REI Flash Air trekking pole tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/rei-flash-copy.jpg "rei flash copy - Mom Goes Camping") #### Features - **Capacity:** 1P and 2P options - **Walls:** Hybrid 1 wall - **Packaged Weight:** 1lb 10.5oz (1P), 2lb 8oz (2P) - **Weight with own poles:** 1lb 4oz (1P), 1lb 15oz (2P) - **Floor Material:** Ripstop nylon - **Canopy:** Nylon mesh - **Interior height:** 42 inches - **Floor dimensions:** 88×35” (1P), 88×52” (2P) - **Floor area:** 21.3 sq. feet (1P), 31.7 sq. feet (2P) - **Vestibule:** 8.4 sq. feet (1P), 2×8.4 sq. feet (2P) - **Setup:** Two trekking poles plus vertical and foot pole #### Review If you are concerned about not being able to set up a trekking pole easily, then the REI Flash Air is a good choice.  It comes with a 3.4oz pole which you or you can use trekking poles. There are also a small roof and vertical pole. The additional poles do add a tiny bit of weight but makes setup a heck of a lot easier.  It takes all of 5 minutes to set up the Flash Air once you get the hang of it. There are two versions of the REI Flash Air available: 1p and 2p.  Both are suitable for tall people at 88 inches in length.  The floor space is also roomier than other UL tents: 21.3 square feet for the 1P and 31.7 square feet for the 2P.  That said, it’s still pretty tough to get two people in the 2P tent.  Your pads will overlap and be prepared for close contact! There are two doors and two vestibules on the 2P version of the Flash Air (the 1P only has one vestibule and 1 door).  This makes it easier to get in/out of the tent and each person has gear storage space. This is a hybrid single-wall tent and REI has added features to prevent condensation buildup.  There’s mesh on the door/s and side wall. There are also three vents to improve airflow.  You still won’t want to keep wet clothes in the tent and be careful where you pitch it, but it handles condensation better than other single-wall trekking pole tents. As expected, there aren’t many extra features.  However, there is a stash pocket and a lantern hook, which you don’t see on many UL tents. **Pros** - Easy to set up - Very lightweight - Lots of floor space - Roomy vestibule - Two doors on 2P version - Withstands bad weather - Suitable for tall people - Good ventilation **Cons** - Footprint not included; adds weight - Low ceiling height - Pricy [REI Flash Air](https://alnk.to/ge74eOb) --- ### 2. [Lunar Duo by Six Moon Designs](https://amzn.to/4f9PYG4) ![lunar duo explorer](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/lunar-duo-explorer.jpg "lunar duo explorer - Mom Goes Camping") **Best for:** Incredibly spacious yet designed for serious hiking #### Features - **Capacity:** 1p & 2p - **Walls:** Hybrid 1 wall - **Weight:** 57oz - **Floor material:** 30D silicon nylon - **Tarp material:** 30D silicon nylon - **Inner material:** 20D ultralight no see um - **Interior height:** 45” - **Floor area:** 34 sq. feet - **Vestibule:** 2 x 12 sq. feet (24 sq. feet total) - **Setup:** Two trekking poles + two spacer poles #### Review ![lunar duo explorer](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/lunar-duo-explorer-3.jpg "lunar duo explorer 3 - Mom Goes Camping") ![lunar duo explorer floor space](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/lunar-duo-explorer-2.jpg "lunar duo explorer 2 - Mom Goes Camping") There are two versions of the Lunar by Six Moon Designs: the Explorer and Outfitter.  The Explorer uses silnylon and the Outfitter uses PU-coated polyester.  Silnyon is much lighter-weight, but also much more fragile (and expensive!).  The Outfitter is available in 1p and 2p sizes. The Lunar Duo uses two trekking poles plus two included spacer poles for setup.  The spacer poles go above the doors and help keep the sides from slanting so much, so you end up with a lot more headroom. Not only do you get lots of headroom with the Lunar Duo, but there’s also lots of floor space too. The tent is 54” across and 90” long. It will actually fit two people comfortably. Each of the two vestibules is 12 sq. feet, which means an additional 24 sq. feet of space for your gear (or your dog).  The Solo version isn’t nearly as spacious and only has one vestibule. There are a bunch of other nice features built into the tent, like the good ventilation, tension adjustments which make setting up easier, interior pockets and canopy which can be set to different heights.   The only real issue with the tent is the high price tag. :/ **Pros** - Two doors and vestibules - Incredibly spacious with lots of headroom - Vestibules are very large - Easy setup - Good ventilation **Cons** - UL Explorer version is pricy - Pole is in middle of door entranceway [**Get It Here**](https://amzn.to/4f9PYG4) (also sometimes available [here at Garage Grown Gear](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=8aa14f51-1fb2-4c30-b785-1c6c0a96cd31&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.garagegrowngear.com%2Fsearch%3Ftype%3Dproduct%26q%3Dlunar%2A%26product_type%3D)) --- ### 3. [Six Moon Designs Skyscape Trekker 1P](https://amzn.to/4feTbnU) **Best for:** Affordable but professional UL tent for solo hikers ![Six Moon Designs Skyscape Trekker trekking pole tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/SkyscapeT-Open.jpg "SkyscapeT-Open - Mom Goes Camping") #### Features - **Capacity:** 1P - **Walls:** Hybrid 1 wall - **Weight:** 1lb 12oz (doesn’t include stake weight) - **Canopy:** 20D silicone-coated polyester 3000mm and 20D mesh - **Floor Material:** 40D silicone polyester - **Interior height:** - **Floor area:** 23 sq. feet - **Vestibule:** 2x8sq. feet (16 sq. feet total) - **Setup:** Two trekking poles #### Review ![Six Moon Designs trekking pole tent layout](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Skyscape-layout.jpg "Skyscape layout - Mom Goes Camping") Six Moon Designs is a small company run by actual backpackers.  Their products are made for long-distance thru hikes and are quickly becoming trail favorites.  The Trekker 1P is a single-wall hybrid tent which has mesh sides.  With both vestibules rolled up, you expose a lot of the mesh and can almost sleep under the stars.  The feature is also great for added ventilation. The listed tent floor space is very large.  However, a lot of this space isn’t usable because of the low-ceilings near the foot of the tent.  Regardless, it’s still a very roomy 1-person tent. The poles are off-set from each other to create a larger roof area. It’s over 8 feet long so definitely suitable for tall people. **Pros** - Lots of room for one person plus gear - Two doors and two vestibules - Suitable for tall people - Good in bad weather - Stash pocket - Sturdy materials **Cons** - Poor ventilation when doors are completely closed  **[Get the tent here at Garage Grown Gear](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=8aa14f51-1fb2-4c30-b785-1c6c0a96cd31&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.garagegrowngear.com%2Fsearch%3Ftype%3Dproduct%26q%3Dskyscape%2A%26product_type%3D) (also [here on Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018TLR01S/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B018TLR01S&linkId=016fcdc58654fb8c87c77f5b29dbb0a4))** \*There’s also a cheaper version of this tent called the [Skyscape Scout](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CLVE5CO/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B01CLVE5CO&linkId=6f45c896da29949a529586a414665d30). --- ### 4. [Mier Lanshan Trekking Pole Tent](https://amzn.to/3Z2Mw8e) (1p and 2p) **Best for:** Great value and very functional ![mier trekking pole tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/mier-trekking-pole-tent.jpg "mier trekking pole tent - Mom Goes Camping") #### Features - **Capacity: 2**P - **Walls:** Double wall - **Weight:** 3.3lbs – weight includes stakes - **Floor:** 15D ripstop nylon; 6000mm - **Fly:** 15D ripstop nylon, 5000mm - **Interior Height:** 49” - **Size:** 6.9×3.6’ (2p) - **Setup:**  2 poles (2P) #### Review ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/mier-2p-with-fly-300x188.jpg "mier 2p with fly - Mom Goes Camping") ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/mier-2p-inner-300x188.jpg "mier 2p inner - Mom Goes Camping") ![Mier 2 Person Trekking pole tent layout](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/mier-2p-layout-300x188.jpg "mier 2p layout - Mom Goes Camping") Considering that this is a cheap lightweight tent, it’s pretty damn  impressive. Unlike most trekking pole tents, the Kikilive (previously known as the Mier tent) is two-layers with an inner mesh tent and an outer fly. If you choose to camp with just the fly, you can get the weight down to about 1.5lbs. There are also some really nice features of the tent, like roomy vestibules.  You’ll need the extra room of the vestibules though because the inside is such a tight fit. There are also nice things like a lantern hanger, mesh pockets, and repair patch included.  The materials seem to be high quality and reviewers say that it holds up in bad weather.  Just note that the light weight is partially due to the fact that there’s no footprint.  If you use your own footprint, it will add to the weight. The triangle design means the tent can funnels rain away well.  If you set it up with wind direction in mind, it will also hold up against tough storms.  Getting in/out of the tent is a bit annoying because of the small door, but that’s just a minor gripe. **Pros** - Two-layer tent - Very affordable - 2 doors and 2 vestibules - Inner mesh pockets **Cons** - Snug fit - One way zipper on doors - No footprint - Heavy for trekking pole tent  **[Get the Tent Here](https://amzn.to/4iw3Pts)** --- ### 5. [Sierra Designs High Route 1FL Tent](https://amzn.to/2TUxemA) **Best for:** Double-wall 1P UL tent with nice features like two doors and vestibules ![Sierra Design High Route trekking pole tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/sd-HighRoute__53468.1547588345.jpg "Sierra Design High Route trekking pole tent - Mom Goes Camping") #### Features - **Packaged Weight:** 1lb 15oz - **Walls:** Double - **Fly Weight:** 1lb 1oz - **Body Weight:** 11oz - **Body Material:** 15D nylon mesh - **Floor Material:** 20D ripstop nylon DWR/1200mm - **Fly:** 20D ripstop nylon, silicone/1200mm - **Interior height:** 43” (nest), 48” (fly) - **Floor area:** 16.6 sq. feet (nest), 29.8 sq. feet (fly) - **Vestibule:** 7.3 sq. feet - **Setup:** Two trekking poles #### Review [![Sierra Designs trekking pole tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/sierra-open-door-300x188.jpg "sierra open door - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/best-trekking-pole-tents/sierra-open-door/) [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/sierra-designs-high-route-1-300x185.jpg "sierra designs high route 1 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/best-trekking-pole-tents/sierra-designs-high-route-1/) [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/sd-vestibule-300x200.jpg "sd vestibule - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/best-trekking-pole-tents/sd-vestibule/) At first, the High Route 1 trekking pole tent looks a bit weird.  It is rectangular but the poles used to pitch the tent are offset from each other.  This is actually a functionality feature: you can enter the tent without the poles blocking the doors.  It also makes the tent more stable. The two pole design creates an apex shape.  This shape has more horizontal walls so you get more interior living space.  There are technically 1.5 doors on the tent.  While a small person could enter through the half door, it’s better used for ventilation or for accessing gear stored outside. You’ll see the High Route tent listed as both a 1-person and 2-person tent.  Both are true.  This is because the tent consists of a fly and an inner nest.  If you use just the fly (as a tarp tent), then you get much more interior space and it’s suitable for two people.  When you use the nest, the living space is cut almost in half and it is only suitable for one person. Compared to other trekking pole tents, this one is a bit finicky to set up.  You’ve really got to make sure everything is tightened properly so it doesn’t sag.  Once you master it, the tent does hold up against bad weather well.  The 2-wall construction also means you don’t have to worry about condensation.  Still, I wouldn’t recommend it for beginners. My major criticism of the tent is that the vestibule is very small. It’s more of a covered awning than a vestibule.  You can fit a backpack there, but don’t count on using the vestibule as living space during bad weather. **Pros** - Two-wall construction - Can use fly by itself - Good ventilation - Lots of interior space - Holds up in bad weather **Cons** - A bit trickier to set up - Nest has very little floor area - Vestibule is very small - Pricy **[Buy it here on Amazon](https://amzn.to/2TUxemA)** --- ### 6. [Featherstone Backbone](https://amzn.to/43RQFQo) **Best for:** One-person tent with lots of space and nice features, but heavier [![featherstone backbone trekking pole tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/featherstone-backbone-trekking-pole-tent.jpg "featherstone backbone trekking pole tent - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/featherstone-backbone-trekking-pole-tent.jpg) #### Features - **Capacity:** 1 - **Walls:** Single with hybrid doors - **Packaged Weight:** 2lbs 6oz (min), 2lbs 12oz (packed) - **Floor material:** 20D Sil-Nylon PU 2000mm - **Tent Material:** 20D Sil-Nylon PU 2000mm - **Interior height:** 47” - **Floor area:** 19 sq. feet - **Vestibule:** N/G - **Setup:** Two trekking poles #### Review Featherstone is a newer brand making cheap ultralight gear. Their Backbone tent is far from ultralight, but it is one of the most spacious options you’ll find.  The design means you get a lot of headroom and there are two vestibules for your gear (or a dog). The vestibules help with ventilation, so it’s a better choice for condensation. The setup on the Featherstone Backbone is easier than with other trekking pole tents.  There are reinforced pole pockets so you don’t have to worry about the poles tearing the fabric.  The bottom guylines share the same hooks, so there are fewer tie-out points.  That said, the double vestibule does mean you have a total of 8 tie outs to deal with.There are also some nice features, like a pockets, hooks and head vent.  These aren’t things I’d expect on a cheaper tent. Despite this, the Backbone tent is still pretty heavy.  It’s design is almost identical to the Mier Lanshan 2p tent and they weigh almost the same, but the Lanshan 2p tent is much larger.  For that reason, I’d spend a bit more to get the Lanshan instead of the Featherstone tent. **Pros** - Affordable - Spacious and great headroom - Two vestibules - Easy setup **Cons** - 8 tie-outs - Heavier option **[Buy It Here](https://amzn.to/43RQFQo)** --- ### 7. [OneTigris Trekking Pole Shelter](https://amzn.to/3vV7ptn) **Best for:** Affordable and spacious option, if you don’t mind some condensation ![onetigris trekking pole tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/onetigris-trekking-pole-tent.jpg "onetigris trekking pole tent - Mom Goes Camping") #### Features - **Capacity:** 2 - **Walls:** Single with hybrid door - **Packaged Weight:** 3lbs 3oz - **Floor material:** N/G - **Tent Material:** 75D Ripstop Nylon fabric 1500mm - **Interior height:** 44” - **Floor area:** 27 sq. feet - **Vestibule:** 7 sq. feet - **Setup:** Two trekking poles #### Review The OneTigris shelter is a single-wall trekking pole tent that sets up easily with two poles. You can also use branches or tie it to trees. It has a double-wall door (mesh inner and separate fly).  The vestibule only extends 13 inches out at the bottom, so you can barely fit your boots there. But the design allows you to set up the outer door like an awning.  On nice nights, you can leave the awning open for ventilation. In bad weather, the OneTigris holds up okay enough. The vents are at the bottom so some condensation is inevitable.  However, the tent actually is spacious enough inside for two people.  It’s just too bad that there is only one entrance – you’ll have to climb over your camping partner to get in/out.  Also keep in mind that this is a generic Chinese brand.  Quality and specs aren’t always consistent.  I’ve seen different weights listed for this tent. \*OneTigris recently started making the Hillridge trekking pole tent. It’s lighter than this one but only partially-enclosed.  Since I haven’t tried it myself and thhere aren’t many reviews, I don’t want to recommend it yet. But you can check it out [here](https://amzn.to/49oMi0k). **Pros** - Really affordable - Spacious inside - Door can be used as awning - Large door - Weight includes stakes **Cons** - Single side door - Condensation - Generic brand with inconsistent quality **[Buy It Here](https://amzn.to/3vV7ptn)** --- ### 8. [MSR Front Range Shelter](https://amzn.to/4gfK1ZM) **Best for:** Group backpacking if you don’t mind spending a fortune [![msr front range trekking pole tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/msr-front-range.jpg "msr front range - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/msr-front-range.jpg) #### Features - **Capacity:** 4 - **Walls:** Double - **Packaged Weight:** 3lbs 15oz (1lb 10oz tarp + 2lbs 5oz mesh) - **Floor material:** 30D ripstop nylon 3000mm Xtreme Shield™ polyurethane & DWR - **Tent Material:** 20-denier ripstop nylon/1,200 mm Xtreme Shield polyurethane and silicone - **Interior height:** 56” - **Floor area:** 53.5 sq. feet - **Vestibule:** 30 sq. feet - **Setup:** One 5-foot trekking pole #### Review The MSR Front Range shelter consists of two parts that you have to buy separately: a tarp shelter and a bug/floor insert.  Warning that each item is expensive and the combo is VERY pricy.  If you are a gear junkie, then you know MSR makes quality products.  However, in this case, I don’t think that the cost is justified.  The shelter lacks some basic features like pockets and there’s only one door. True, you aren’t going to find any other trekking pole tents this large. But it’s not realistic for 4 people to actually sleep in this shelter.  Since the pole is in the middle, someone is going to bump into it and possible knock the tent over. There’s also only one door, so people would have to crawl over each other to get in/out.  Not fun! That said, I haven’t been able to find any other trekking pole shelters this large.  If you really need something this large, save yourself some money by just getting the bug insert and using it with a cheap tarp. **Pros** - Spacious with lots of headroom - Easy setup - Great quality - Good ventilation - Can use tarp by itself **Cons** - Only one door and vestibule - Expensive - Not realistic for 4 people to sleep inside **[Buy It Here](https://amzn.to/4gfK1ZM)** --- ## Pros and Cons of Trekking Pole Tents The main reason hikers get trekking pole tents is to reduce weight from their pack.  But, before you dive in with the goal of saving some ounces, make sure you carefully consider all of the pros and cons of trekking pole tents. ![tent pitched with trekking poles](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/pros-cons.jpg "pros cons - Mom Goes Camping") ### Pro: Reduce Weight This is such a big benefit of trekking pole tents that it overrides almost all of the cons.  While tent manufacturers have gotten better at making poles from ultralight materials, these still add weight. Plus, those ultralight poles will come at a cost. Virtually all trekking pole tents are designed for ultralight backpackers, so they weigh in at under 2 pounds. ### Pro: Cheap Ultralight Tent Because they don’t come with poles, most trekking pole tents are significantly cheaper than lightweight tents.  Some of the trekking pole tents listed here cost less than $100 and are still decent.  If budget is your primary concern though, check out [these cheap ultralight tents](https://momgoescamping.com/cheap-ultralight-tents/). ### Pro: You Get a Free Tarp Tent If you choose a double-wall trekking pole tent, you are basically getting a free tarp shelter.  This gives you a lot of flexibility if you want to bring just the tarp/fly on some trips.  Because tarp shelters can be surprisingly expensive, this will ultimately save you money. ### Pro: You’ll Actually Bring Trekking Poles A lot of hikers don’t bring trekking poles because of the extra weight.  But, as I talk about in this post about the [pros and cons of trekking poles](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-poles-pros-cons/), hiking with poles reduces a lot of strain on your knees and back. If weight is the only thing that is keeping you from using trekking poles, then you should really consider getting a tent pitched with trekking poles.  Your knees will thank you later on in life! (Not sure what size trekking poles you need? [Montemlife’s trekking pole guide](https://montemlife.com/trekking-poles-hiking-sticks/) has a size chart based on your height!). ### Con: Pitching Can Be a Pain Trekking pole tents can be an absolute pain to pitch, especially if you can’t find a level campsite or the ground is rocky or sandy.  Depending on how the tent is designed, you might spend a lot of time crouched on your knees adjusting guylines to get the tension right.  If you don’t get the tent staked out right, it could start sagging.  And the sagging might not happen until rain hits it in the middle of the night! ![ZPacks Solplex pitching](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/pitching-zpacks.jpg "pitching zpacks - Mom Goes Camping")Check out all the rocks which had to be gathered to pitch this trekking pole tent ZPacks Solplex![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/pitching-nemo-trekkingp-pole-tent.jpg "pitching nemo trekkingp pole tent - Mom Goes Camping")Look at what is invovled in pitching the Nemo Meta trekking pole tent discontinued It looks simple but actually takes some practice ### Con: Condensation Since trekking pole tents are meant to be ultralight, many are single wall.  To keep insects out, they often have mesh netting (aka hybrid wall). Using a single wall can result in condensation, and you can’t open the doors for ventilation in bad weather.  The good brands will put vents in their vents to prevent condensation but it’s still inevitable in bad weather. ### Con: Risk of Puncture Note that lots of trekking pole tents are designed so you put your pole upside down (tip point up).  The idea is that the tip of the pole fits into a grommet.  The handle side of the pole goes down in the ground. If you aren’t careful when inserting the pole, it could slip out of the grommet and puncture the tent.  This isn’t likely to happen, but is still something to be aware of. ### Con: Pole Failure In general, trekking poles are a lot more reliable than flimsy tent poles.  However, your trekking poles get a lot more abuse than your tent poles.  Over time, they can wear out.  They might fail on you and not collapse/extend to the right size for your tent. If you are going to get a trekking pole tent, make sure you have quality poles.  Latch poles are more reliable than twist-type poles.  You won’t have to worry about these slipping and causing your tent to sag. ## Trekking Pole Tent vs. UL Freestanding Tent? It the effort to go ultralight, it can be really tempting to choose a trekking pole tent.  And I’m not trying to discourage you from them.  However, be realistic.   ***Is the extra hassle of pitching a trekking pole tent really worth the weight savings?*** Remember, going ultralight isn’t a competition. It’s about making the experience more enjoyable! But there is one good reason to choose a trekking pole tent: Compared to UL freestanding tents, trekking pole tents are a lot more affordable.   The [Nemo Hornet UL 1P tent](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dnemo%2Bhornet%26pagesize%3D90) is freestanding and weighs just 2lbs, but it also costs about $360.  By contrast, most trekking pole tents in that weight category don’t cost more than $100 to $200. The bottom line? Choose a trekking pole tent if you have more experience pitching tents and want an UL tent which won’t cost a fortune. ## Trekking Pole Tent vs. Tarp If you are willing to put some extra effort into pitching in order to save weight, then it is worth considering a tarp shelter.  A tarp shelter is almost always going to be lighter than a trekking pole tent, cheaper, and give you flexibility.  If insects are going to be a problem, then you can bring a net shelter or bivvy to use under your tarp. However, **I wouldn’t go from a double-wall tent to a tarp right away.**  It takes a lot of learning and skill to backpack with a tarp. Sure, it might be easy when the weather is good — but what about when a storm suddenly hits and you are scrambling to find a proper pitch site? One good piece of advice I read was this: **It’s a lot easier to learn UL skills in a single-wall tent. Then you can move to a tarp system when it makes sense.** Trekking pole tents are a good transition between freestanding tents and a tarp.  **If you can’t decide between a trekking pole tent and a tarp, consider a double-wall trekking pole tent**.Then you’ll have the option of just using the outer wall as a tarp tent later on. **Also read: [26 Tarp Shelter Configurations (with Pictures)](https://momgoescamping.com/tarp-shelters/)** **Do you use trekking poles to pitch your tent?  Which tent and how do you like it?** --- ###### ![the best trekking pole tents for ultralight backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/trekking-pole-tents-1.jpg "trekking pole tents - Mom Goes Camping") ###### Resources: <https://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php/83317-Free-standing-tent-vs-trekking-pole-supported-tents><https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/106655856/anyone-ever-used-a-trekking-pole-tent><https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/2us7il/double_wall_tents_with_trekking_pole_support/> ###### Image credits: “[Inside the tarp](https://www.flickr.com/photos/umnak/4002832298/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [The Cabin On The Road](https://www.flickr.com/people/umnak/), “[Tent – Nemo Meta 1P](https://www.flickr.com/photos/ex_magician/5402552741/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [ex\_magician](https://www.flickr.com/people/ex_magician/), “Lost Coast Trail, April 2011 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/abelajohnb/5610575921/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by johnabela (https://www.flickr.com/people/abelajohnb/) “[Tent](https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjanee/37014249233/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [gregjanee](https://www.flickr.com/people/gjanee/) “[Tenting with a view](https://www.flickr.com/photos/102036657@N06/48525813752/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [Taiga Journeys Yukon](https://www.flickr.com/people/102036657@N06/) “[\_MG\_8924.jpg](https://www.flickr.com/photos/oskarlin/28649284721/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [oskarlin](https://www.flickr.com/people/oskarlin/) “[Tent – Nemo Meta 1P](https://www.flickr.com/photos/ex_magician/5402559721/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [ex\_magician](https://www.flickr.com/people/ex_magician/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** tents, trekking poles, ultralight --- ### [Best Kids Snow Pants and Bibs (For Serious Winter Play)](https://momgoescamping.com/best-kids-snow-pants/) **Published:** December 9, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** If you live somewhere cold and don’t want your kids to spend the entire winter cooped up indoors, then you’ll need a good pair of snow pants or bibs for them. There are now actually some really cool options for kids snow pants, like ones with high-tech waterproof materials, leg vents and built in gaiters. That doesn’t mean you need to spend a fortune to get good snow pants for your kids (though some are definitely pricy!).  Here are the top picks for both little kids and big kids and how they compare. ## Quick Picks: - **Best Overall:** [Columbia Adventure Ride Bibs](https://amzn.to/3Fct1Cn) - **Best for Little Kids:** [Obermeyer Snoverall](https://amzn.to/3FDbu7F) - **Best for Older Kids:** [Obermeyer Parker](https://amzn.to/3BhxVg4) - **Budget Pick:** [Arctix Bibs](https://amzn.to/3HkwH7N) **Tip:** Check out [REI’s Outlet section](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Frei-garage%2Fc%2Fkids-clothing%3Fpagesize%3D90) for discounts on last-season’s snow pants and bibs. \[table id=78 /\] \[table id=79 /\] ## Best Snow Pants and Bibs Reviewed ### 1. Columbia Kids Adventure Ride Bib [![columbia adventure ride kids snow bibs](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/columbia-adventure-ride-snow-bibs.jpg "columbia adventure ride snow bibs - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/columbia-adventure-ride-snow-bibs.jpg) If you are on a budget but willing to pay a bit more for good snow bibs for your kid, the Columbia Adventure Ride bibs are a great choice.  They have the “Grow System” which allows you to extend the length of the pants so you get more use out of them.   This makes them a good value in the long run. With 100g of insulation, these are one of the warmer kids snow bibs you’ll find.   The Omni-Tech fabric is also waterproof and breathable (10k/10k). Most snow bibs with these specs cost a lot more. I just with the suspenders were quick release. It’s annoying that they didn’t include this feature. Because of that, I’d only get them for older kids who aren’t going to have accidents.  Note that Columbia also makes a snow pants version of these bibs which have the same properties.  They are called the Bugaboo. #### **Pros:** - Grow System to extend length of pants - Very warm - Waterproof and breathable - Good value - Lots of colors - Elastic and Velcro for adjustable waist - Durable #### **Cons:** - Suspenders aren’t quick release **[Get The Bibs Here](https://amzn.to/3Fct1Cn) and [Get the pants version here](https://amzn.to/3iLPKgZ).** --- ### 2. Obermeyer Snow Pants and Bibs [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/obermeyer-snow-bibs-comparison.jpg "obermeyer snow bibs comparison - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/obermeyer-snow-bibs-comparison.jpg)*From Left to Right Snoverall Volt Warp Enforcer and Conner Bibs*[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/obermeyer-snow-pants-comparison.jpg "obermeyer snow pants comparison - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/obermeyer-snow-pants-comparison.jpg)*The Brooke Brisk Jessi and Parker snow pants* The brand Obermeyer makes incredibly high-quality snow clothes for skiing and snowboarding, but they are equally as good for things like sledding.  There are a lot of different models to choose from but virtually all of them have these high-end features: - **Extended Wear System:** This allows you to add approximately 2 more inches to the pants, so you can get more use out of them. - **Lifetime Warranty:** The fact that Obermeyer gives a lifetime warranty is a sign of their quality. - **Waterproof and breathable:** Obermeyer uses advanced technology fabrics which have a high waterproof rating and good breathability. - **Articulated and reinforced designs:** The snow pants and bibs are sewn together in a way which allows a full range of movement. Critical areas, particularly the knees and butt, are reinforced so the snow pants and bibs last longer. - **Reflective Trim:** There is tons of reflective trim on Obermeyer products, so your child is visible in the dark. - **Pockets:** Some of the Obermeyer snow pants and bibs have multiple pockets, including hand warmer pockets. The higher-end Obermeyer models have vents in the thighs to prevent sweating and leg zippers at the cuffs. [![Vents in the Enforcer snow pants](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/vents-on-enforcer-pant.jpg "vents on enforcer pant - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/vents-on-enforcer-pant.jpg)*Vents in the Enforcer snow pants* The problem is that Obermeyer makes a lot of different snow pants and bibs for kids.  Annoyingly, they don’t always have an equivalent girls and boys model. For little girls, I’d recommend the [**Snoverall Bib**](https://amzn.to/3FDbu7F). For little boys, the [**Conner Bibs**](https://amzn.to/3VXkOIO) are good but not nearly as insulated. For older boys, the [**Parker pants**](https://amzn.to/3BhxVg4) are awesome because they have leg zips and vents. For older girls, the [**Brooke pants**](https://amzn.to/3UXUvl7) are great but don’t have leg zips or vents like the Parker pants do. #### **Pros:** - Insanely good quality - Very durable - Extended grow system - Some cool patterns and colors #### **Cons:** - Expensive **Find them at [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Frei-garage%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dobermeyer%26pagesize%3D90%26ir%3Dq%253Aobermeyer%26r%3Dcategory%253Akids-clothing%257Ckids-pants), [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3iNbDfZ) and [Backcountry.com](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=b5770911-39dc-46ac-ba0f-b49dbb30c5c7&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.backcountry.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dobermeyer%26p%3Dgroup_id%253Abc-kids%26s%3Du)** --- ### 3. Quiksilver Snowboard Pants [![quiksilver snowboard pants for kids](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/quiksilver-snowboard-pants-for-kids.jpg "quiksilver snowboard pants for kids - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/quiksilver-snowboard-pants-for-kids.jpg)![](https://ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&language=en_US&l=li3&o=1&a=B086L18NMT) The Quicksilver Snowboard pants have 100g of insulation, and the insulation is a very high quality. That makes these snow pants very warm.  The waterproofing on the material also does its job well. Unfortunately, they only have a breathability rating of 5000g.  To compensate for this, Quicksilver did add vents to the thigh area. I’d recommend these if your kid plays in very cold weather but isn’t active the entire time. #### **Pros:** - Very warm - Have zippered vents in the thighs - Durable - Several color options #### **Cons:** - Not very breathable **[Get Them Here](https://amzn.to/3FBDdpq)** --- ### 4. Castle X Phase Youth Snow Bibs ![Castle X Phase Youth Snow Bibs - Black - XL](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/311vhWP4WCL._SL500_.jpg) ![](https://ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&language=en_US&l=li3&o=1&a=B076BVQ9FS) Castle X is a brand which makes gear for snowmobile racing.  So, their Youth snow bibs are designed to handle extreme cold and wind.  They have 150g of insulation and a windproof shell. They are *not* designed for active kids though. They don’t list the breathability rating, but your kid will start to sweat in these snow bibs if doing intense activities or playing in mildly-cold weather.  Their Amazon listing doesn’t have a size chart.  The XS is for 41-48″ height, S is for 50-53″, M is for 54-60″, L is for 61-65″ and XL is for 65-68″. #### **Pros:** - Very warm - Windproof - Incredibly durable construction #### **Cons:** - Pricy - Don’t list waterproof or breathability rating - Only black color - No reflective trim - Poor breathability **[Get Them Here](https://amzn.to/3iOgFIQ)** --- ### 5. Arctix Snow Pants and Bibs [![Arctix cheap kids snow pants and bibs](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/arctix-snow-bibs.jpg "arctix snow bibs - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/arctix-snow-bibs.jpg) If you need cheap snow pants for a slightly older child, Arctix is a good option.  They are one of the few cheap brands to actually list how much insulation their pants contain.  They also have a very durable construction with reinforced areas. The Arctix pants and bibs both have a waterproof rating of 5,000mm.  That’s not enough to keep kids dry in wet snow.  Knees will end up wet when kneeling in snow. But it’s good enough to keep your kids dry while walking in snowfall.  The breathability of the Arctix pants is terrible though, so they are *not* recommended for very active kids! #### **Pros:** - Lots of cool designs - Affordable #### **Cons:** - Suspenders aren’t quick release - Poor waterproof rating - Not breathable **Get the [Bibs Here](https://amzn.to/3HkwH7N) and the [Pants Here](https://amzn.to/3FCxtvF)** ### 6. Carters Snow Bibs ![](https://ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&language=en_US&l=li3&o=1&a=B07RTYRBM7) ![Carter's Girls' Toddler Snow Bib Ski Pants Snowsuit (Discontinued), Rosalie Pink, 4T](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41jeVC5rYTL._SL500_.jpg) Carters makes a lot of cheap clothing for kids.  Compared to other cheap brands, their quality is actually pretty good.  They have features like reinforced knees, side gussets for a better fit and the material is decent.  But, at this price, don’t expect the snow bibs to be waterproof. They don’t even list the waterproof rating, which is a really bad sign! Note that there is a girls and boys version of these snow bibs.  They are the same, except that the girls’ version has some different color options and a little heart on the top area. #### **Pros:** - Cheap - Okay quality for the price #### **Cons:** - Not waterproof **[Buy Them Here](https://amzn.to/3Hl8Cxx)** --- ## Kids Snow Pants Buying Guide ### Snow Pants vs. Snow Bibs for Kids? Compared to pants, snow bibs definitely do a better job of keeping your child warm.  You won’t have to worry about exposed backs when your child bends over and the front of the bib protects against wind when your child’s jacket is unzipped. But snow bibs are notoriously annoying for bathroom breaks.  You typically have to take off your jacket entirely to get the bibs down. For little kids, this could mean accidents. There are some snow bibs with buckles or other quick-release suspenders.  You’ll still have to take the jacket off to get the suspenders back on (though you might be able to thread the suspenders up through the back of your kid’s jacket). [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/snow-pants-for-playing-in-snow.jpg "snow pants for playing in snow - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/snow-pants-for-playing-in-snow.jpg)*Snow WILL get up the back of your kids jacket Choose bibs if your kid rolls around or goes crazy in the snow* ### How Much Insulation Should Snow Pants Have? Snow pants and bibs insulation is measured in grams.  While some types of insulation are better than others, higher insulation generally means a warmer pair of snow pants. The amount of insulation your kid needs depends on the activity. **General Guidelines:** - Little kids need 80-100 grams of insulation for snow play. - Older kids need 60-100 grams of insulation for snow play. - Kids doing intense aerobic activities such as skiing only need 40-60 grams of insulation. - For activities which don’t involve much movement, such as snowmobiling, your child may need over 100 grams of insulation. Bear in mind that **o**ur legs don’t need as much insulation as our torsos, so the snow pants will typically have a lower insulation amount than the jacket.  Too much insulation will restrict movement, so don’t get highly-insulated snow pants for very active kids. ### Are Kid’s Snow Pants Waterproof? Despite what many manufacturers claim, snow pants are *not* waterproof.  Rather, they are *water-resistant.*  This means that water won’t be able to easily pass through the material.  Water resistance is rated in millimeters (mm) and indicate how much pressure the water pressure the material can withstand before water seeps through it. Most good snow pants for kids have a water resistant rating of 10,000mm.  This is enough to keep your kid dry during snowfalls.  It will also keep your kid dry when kneeling in frozen snow. However, if your kid kneels in snow for a long time, the snow will start to melt from their body heat. The melted snow will seep through the snow pants and cause your child to get wet.  Likewise, most snow pants will *not* keep your child dry if they fall in slush. #### Waterproof vs. Breathability You might be tempted to get your kids the most waterproof snow pants you can find.  But you generally *don’t* want snow pants to be waterproof.  This is because waterproof materials are not breathable.  Your kid will quickly start to sweat in waterproof pants, causing them to get wet from the inside instead of the outside. Good snow pants also list their breathability rating. This is a measurement of how well vapor can pass through the material. #### Taped Seams In addition to the waterproof rating of the snow pants, you also want to pay attention to whether the seams are sealed.  Good brands of snow pants will sew tape into the seams to prevent water from leaking through. Fully-taped seams means that *all* the seams on the pants are sealed.  Critically-taped seams means that only certain seams (such as the ones at the knees or butt) are taped.  If your kid is going to be lying in the snow, such as making snow angels, then you want fully-taped seams. ### Is There a Difference between Boys and Girls Snow Pants? Aside from the colors and designs, there usually isn’t a difference between snow pants/bibs for girls or boys – especially in the little kids’ sizes.  Your son can wear girl’s snow pants and vice versa. When you get into older kids’ sizes though, there sometimes actually are differences in the cut and fit of the snow pants. These differences are usually only found on really high-end brands of snow pants though which actually use articulated designs. ### Features on Snow Pants - **Gaiter Cuffs:** These are an extra layer of fabric found underneath the leg cuff. They help keep snow out of the pants and boots. - **Leg Zippers:** This allows you to unzip the bottom part of the pant to access the gaiter cuff or your boots. - **Vents:** Really good snow pants have vents. You can open the vents to allow heat to escape and stop sweating.  These are a must-have feature on snow pants for intense aerobic activities. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/sledding-in-snow-pants.jpg "sledding in snow pants - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/sledding-in-snow-pants.jpg)*The gaiter underneath the cuff helps keep snow from going up the pants or in the boots* ## How Should Kids Wear Snow Pants – FAQs ### What do you put under snow pants for kids? Snow pants and bibs must be worn with a base layer.  The main purpose of the base layer is to wick sweat away from your child’s body so they don’t get cold from evaporative heat loss.  Good base layers should be made of synthetic materials or wool. **Pro Tip:** If you are on a tight budget, it’s better to get cheap snow pants but good-quality base layers.  The base layers are what really matter when it comes to keeping your kids dry and comfy.  Plus, you’ll get more use out of them so it’s worth the investment.  Check out [these good base layers for kids.](https://momgoescamping.com/best-camping-pajamas-for-kids/) ### Do snow pants go inside or outside boots? Snow pants should always go *outside* of the boots.  Otherwise snow will get inside the boots.  Good snow pants have a gaiter under the pant cuff. This gaiter hugs around or attaches to your boot as an extra layer of protection against snow getting into the boots. ### Can you use rain pants instead of snow pants? If you are on a tight budget, you can get away with using rain pants instead of snow pants. But, because rain pants are not insulated like snow pants, you will need to put an extra layer on your child.  That means your child will be wearing a base layer + insulating layer (such as fleece or wool pants) + the rain pants. The extra layer might mean the rain pants end up tight and restrict movement. Another issue is that rain pants are not breathable like snow pants are, so your child could end up sweaty – so gets wet from the inside instead of out.    Also read: [Best waterproof rain pants for kids](https://momgoescamping.com/best-kids-rain-pants/) --- ###### Image credits: “[14. Forgotten beauty](https://www.flickr.com/photos/anne-cathrine_nyberg/4392978022/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [AnneCN](https://www.flickr.com/people/anne-cathrine_nyberg/), “[DSC00780.jpg](https://www.flickr.com/photos/helloturkeytoe/16265460928/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Hello Turkey Toe](https://www.flickr.com/people/helloturkeytoe/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids --- ### [Deeno X1500 Power Station Review](https://momgoescamping.com/deeno-x1500-power-station-review/) **Published:** June 20, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I admit that I hadn’t heard of the [Deeno X1500 power station](https://amzn.to/3XoX2ri) before the brand reached out to me. But, since you can never have too many power stations (I’m a prepper as well as an outdoorsy nerd), I took them up on their offer to send me their Deeno X1500 power station to review.  Yes, it was free but that hasn’t influenced my review. After playing around with the Deeno X1500 for a few weeks now, here’s what I think of it. ## Quick Review: The main thing to love about the Deeno X1500 power station is that, unlike other power stations I’ve tried, the fans are completely QUIET.  The LCD screen is also a major pro because it gives you exact info about remaining battery, charging time left, and input and output wattage.   There’s no “guesswork” like with some other power stations. Deeno uses LiFePO4 technology, their power station will retain 80% capacity through 3,500 cycles, which is much more than the 2,500 cycles promised by other brands using LiFePO4 batteries.  It also happens to be one of the most affordable power stations in its class. This makes it a great value both now and in the long run. The major downside is that Deeno is a fairly new brand on the market. You might be inclined to pay more for a power station from a more well-known brand which has proven their products stand up the test of time. [**Get It Here**](https://amzn.to/3XoX2ri) ### Deeno X1500 Power Station Quick Specs: - **Capacity:** 1036Wh (28.8V 36Ah) - **Battery Type:** LiFePO4 - **Lifespan:** 3,500 cycles to 80% original capacity - **Outputs:** 3x AC, 3x USB-A, 2x USB-C,Wireless charging, 2xDC (12V, 10A); 1xDC car outlet (12V, 10A) - **Wattage:** 1500W (3000W surge) - **Input:** Solar input, AC adapter, DC adapter - **Weight:** 32.6lbs - **Size:** 15 x 8.9 x 9.4 inches **[Check the Price Here](https://amzn.to/3XoX2ri)** ## What Can You Run on the Deeno X1500 Power Station? (Outputs and Max Power) [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/using-blender-1.jpg "using blender 1 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/using-blender-1.jpg)*Testing the Deeno X1500 with my high speed blender* The Deeno X1500 has 12 outputs, allowing you to charge multiple devices at once.  The outputs are: - **2x USB-C** (5V/9V/12V/15V-3A, 20V-5A; 100W max per channel) - **3x USB-A** (5V-3A, 9V-2A, 12V-1.5A; 18W max per channel) - **3x standard AC plugs** (120V) - **1x car charger** (12V-10A, 120W max) - **1X DC 5.5 X2.5** (24V-5A, 120W max) - **1X DC 5.5 X 2.1** (12V-5A, 60W max) - **Wireless charger** These outputs cover pretty much any device you’d want to use while camping.  It’s pretty simple to use any of them: you literally just plug your device into the appropriate outlet and hit the “on” button. [![wireless charging on the Deeno X1500 power station](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/wireless-charging-1.jpg "wireless charging 1 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/wireless-charging-1.jpg)*There is wireless charging on top of the power station* ### Max Power Output Just because there are 12 outputs, it doesn’t necessarily mean you can charge 12 devices at once.  The Deeno X1500 has a maximum power output of 1500 watts.  If you go over the maximum power, the power station will stop charging. Each time you plug a device into the Deeno X1500, the LCD screen tells you how much power is being used.  This is a pretty cool feature because it makes it easy to stay under the 1500W limit, even if you have no clue how much power your devices use. ### Surge Power The Deeno X1500 can handle 1500 watts of *continuous power*.  However, it is able to handle up to 3000 watts of power for a short period of time.  This is called *surge power*. Surge power is important because some gadgets require a lot of power to turn on, but then use a smaller amount of power to run.  Pretty much anything with a motor is going to have a high surge power.  Think fridges, blenders and power tools.  Surge power requirements are often 6x the amount of power that a device uses to run. Compared to other portable power stations in its class, Deeno’s 3000 watt surge power is very high.   For example, the Jackery Explorer 1000 has a surge power of 2000 watts. ## How Long Can You Run Devices on the Deeno X1500? (Capacity) The Deeno X1500 has a battery capacity of 1036Wh.  This means you can power a 1W gadget for 1,036 hours, a 10W appliance for 103.6 hours, or a 100W appliance for 10.36 hours… Even when you factor in energy loss due to inefficiency (which is inevitable with all power stations and power banks), you should still be able to get this much more from the 1,036Wh power station: - Recharge smartphone 60-90 times - Recharge laptop 15 times - Fan (40 watt) for 20 hours - Run a 12V camping cooler (60 watt) for 13 hours **To figure out how long a device will run on the Deeno X1500, use this formula:** **1036Wh × 90% × 90% ÷ Wattage of appliance ≈ Run time** Note that the actual math can be much more complicated.  For example, camping fridges only use power when they are cooling – which isn’t all of the time.  That’s probably why Deeno claims that the X1500 can run a mini fridge for 16 to 32 hours. ## Ways to Charge the Deeno X1500 Power Station (Inputs) The Deeno X1500 comes with three charging cables.  This allows you to charge the power station in four ways.  You can charge and discharge at the same time! [![unboxing Deeno X1500 power station](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/unboxing-e1687253549799.jpg "unboxing - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/unboxing.jpg)*Shown above The charging cables andn power brick that come with the Deeno X1500* ### AC Adapter Charging: If you want to charge the Deeno X1500 ahead of time, the easiest way to do that is with the AC power adapter.  It’s a fairly big “brick” that you simply connect to the power station and a wall outlet. It takes approximately 6 hours to fully charge the power station (0% to 100%) using the wall adapter. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/precharging-1.jpg "precharging 1 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/precharging-1.jpg)*Precharging the Deeno X1500 with AC The LCD screen tells you how much time is remaining until the power station is completely full* ### Generator Charging You can also use the wall adapter to recharge the X1500 from a standard gas generator.  Why would you want to do this? Because it means you don’t have to worry about positioning your generator near your home or RV, thus potentially getting carbon monoxide poisoning.  When the X1500 is fully charged, you just bring it inside to use. ### DC Cigarette Lighter Port: Use the DC adapter to charge the power station from your car’s cigarette lighter (or anything else that has a cigarette lighter output). At 12V, it will take approximately 10 to 13 hours to fully recharge the Deeno X1500.  At 24V, it will take approximately 6 hours.  This isn’t a bad solution for topping up the power station while you drive. ### Solar Charging: The Deeno X1500 power station also comes with an MC4 cable for connecting it to solar panels. You can use a solar panel of up to 200W with the power station.  In ideal situations, Deeno claims it will take approximately 6 to 10 hours to fully recharge the X1500 with a 200W solar panel. Be realistic though.  Solar charging conditions are never “ideal” — especially not for 6+ hours straight!  In shady conditions, you’ll be lucky if you can get 5 watts going into your power station. I don’t have the Deeno solar panel.  Instead, I tested solar charging the X1500 with my [Bluetti 120W panel](https://amzn.to/3NjZ9YL).  It was 10am in June, the sky was clear and the sun was fairly bright. The input reading on the X1500 ranged from 55w to 75w.  When I plugged in my [Bluetti EB70 power station](https://amzn.to/3qHKm2f) to the same solar panel, I got similar readings.  However, the Deeno X1500 definitely had more variable readings.  It would go from 65 and jump to 70 and then back down to 58.   The Bluetti readings were more consistent.   I’m not sure if this is because the readings lag on the Bluetti, or because it has more stable delivery. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/deeno-solar-charging-input-test.jpg "deeno solar charging input test - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/deeno-solar-charging-input-test.jpg)A 71W input reading when charging the Deeno X1500 with a 120w solar panel[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/bluetti-solar-charging-testing-input.jpg "bluetti solar charging testing input - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/bluetti-solar-charging-testing-input.jpg)A 73W input reading on the Bluetti EB70 in the exact same conditions I have the EU model of this one ## Size and Weight of the Deeno X1500 At nearly 33lbs, the Deeno X1500 is definitely not lightweight. It’s also fairly bulky.  This is not something that I’d want to lug to a walk-in campsite. But you can’t realistically expect a power station with over 1000Wh capacity to be any smaller or lighter. I like that the handles are retractable.  This makes it easier to pack since you can put things on top of the power station. However, I don’t like that there are *two* handles on the Deeno X1500.  This design is nice if two people are carrying the power station together: each person grabs onto one handle.  But the design is annoying if you want to carry it by yourself.  You have to carry it with two hands in front of you.  I’m not sure how far most people could carry 33lbs in one hand, but I’d like to have that as an option! [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/handle-1.jpg "handle 1 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/handle-1.jpg)Retractable handles on the Deeno X1500 ## User Friendliness ### LCD Screen A huge plus about the Deeno X1500 is its large, clear LCD screen. When you turn it on, it clearly tells you how much capacity is remaining.  When charging the power station, the circle rotates clockwise. Each time you plug in a device to charge, it tells you how many watts you are using (which is great to prevent you from going over the 1500w limit).  It also tells you “remaining hours” as you plug in devices. In the video below, you can see how the “remaining hours” changes on the LCD screen when you plug something in.  It takes a bit of time for the number to stabilize, but it’s pretty cool to see how the number changes as you plug in devices.  Like how the remaining hours dropped when I started watching a movie on my laptop versus just powering it. This could be very useful if you need to make decisions about which devices to charge/use. ### Alarm Icons There are several alarm icons on the LCD screen.  These alarms include: - Overload - Low battery - High temperature - Low temperature There is apparently also a buzzer alarm which sounds.  I didn’t want to mess with the power station by purposely overloading it, so I haven’t heard it. ### Auto Off One small thing I don’t like about the Deeno X1500 is the auto-off feature.  If there is no power draw from the output ports for 10 hours, it will turn off.  This is actually a really long time. During this time, the power station will be slightly draining.  Worse, since it is running, it will get a bit hot.  For this reason, I wish the auto-off feature was only 1 or 2 hours instead of 10. ### Emergency Light There is a giant LCD light on the back of the power station.  It has three brightnesses plus a flashing SOS mode. Even the dimmest level is really bright! I like that the light is diffused (as opposed to the spotlight type lights on most power stations).  You can actually use it while camping.  But the light design means it has to be on the back of the power station, which isn’t always convenient. [![The Deeno X1500 power station built in light](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/light-1.jpg "light 1 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/light-1.jpg) ## Fan and Noise An annoying thing about most portable power stations is that the fans can be very LOUD.  The fans on my Bluetti power station, for example, start humming loudly immediately when I charge it or discharge it. Apparently Ecoflow power stations have the same problem. So I was really surprised when **the Deeno X1500 didn’t make any noise**.  Both the power station and the AC adapter brick were completely quiet.  The fans do kick on when  you exceed 300W or the power station gets too hot (113F). But even then it was quieter than the Bluetti with just one phone plugged in! ## Deeno X1500 Technology Here’s where I’m going to get technical. Compared to older generations of power stations (and some which are still on the market), the technology that Deeno uses seems to be better than the competition. ### LiFePO4 Battery Older power stations use Lithium-ion batteries.  By contrast, Deeno uses the newer lithium iron phosphate (LiFePO4) battery technology. Batteries gradually lose their capacity over time (even if you aren’t using them!).  Compared to older Lithium-ion batteries, LiFePO4 batteries retain their capacity much longer. For example, the Jackery Explorer 1500 retains 80% of its capacity for 500 cycles.  The Deeno X1500 retains 80% of its capacity for 3,500 cycles. This is even better than other power stations using LiFePO4 technology.  My Bluetti power station, for example, retains 80% capacity for 2,500 cycles. The lifespan of the Deeno X1500 makes it a better investment in the long run. ### Inverter The Deeno X1500 has a pure sine wave inverter.  This is the best inverter when it comes to charging sensitive gadgets like phones and laptops.  It’s also more efficient. ### DIBMS Deeno has something called “Digital intelligence in electrical energy management” technology in their power stations.  This technology includes various patented systems for power tracking, temperature control, and overcurrent protection. ## Price and Value The Deeno X1500 is surprisingly affordable.  Power stations by major brands (think Ecoflow, Bluetti, Anker and Goal Zero) in the 1,000Wh capacity range cost uusually cost at least 30% more.  Some even cost twice as much. There are some generic brands of 1,000Wh power stations which cost about the same as Deeno, but some of these don’t use the better LiFePO4 technology – meaning they will lose capacity faster. This was honestly a big worrisome to me at first: I asked the brand rep about why their prices are so low and he said, “The price is partly because of our marketing strategy… As a new brand, we have to attract users.” So I wouldn’t be surprised if the price goes up once/if Deeno becomes more popular of a brand – especially since they have some new power stations coming out soon. Until that happens though, Deeno is currently one of the most affordable power stations available.  When you look at the price per Wh of capacity, the X1500 is actually pretty cheap. [**Check the Price Here**](https://amzn.to/3XoX2ri) ## Verdict With over 1,000 watt hours of capacity, the Deeno X1500 is perfect for weekend camping trips where you need to run some larger devices like 12V coolers.  The capacity is also great for keeping your devices charged on longer camping trips or as a backup power solution for blackouts.  Even if you have low power needs, the affordable price of the X1500 makes it worth choosing over lower-capacity power stations. Just be realistic about how much you will be able to lug around a 33lb power station! ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [Campfire Cooking Tripods: Complete Guide](https://momgoescamping.com/campfire-cooking-tripods/) **Published:** December 13, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** There are lots of [ways to cook over a campfire](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-cook-over-a-campfire/). Of these, cooking tripods are popular because they have a low learning curve, versatile and are great for hands-off slow cooking.   Here I will go over the best campfire tripods for cooking, how to make your own campfire tripod like how to hang the pot and keep food from burning. ## What Is a Campfire Tripod? A campfire tripod consists of three legs connected together at the top. You spread the legs over a campfire and hang a pot from the center.  A lot of campfire tripods have chains so you can adjust the height of the pot or hang a grill rack from the tripod. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/campfire-cooking-setup.jpg "campfire cooking setup - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/campfire-cooking-setup.jpg)This campfire cooking set includes a tripod with grill rack ## Cooking with a Campfire Tripod ### What Can You Cook with a Campfire Tripod? Campfire tripods are typically used to make slow-cook meals in hanging pots. You start by frying ingredients like onions, garlic and peppers in the pot.  Then you add water or stock, proteins like beans or meat, and carbs like potatoes.  Let it simmer with the lid on or off for at least an hour, or until the liquid has reduced and all foods are cooked. You can also hang a grill rack off of many campfire tripods.  You can grill food directly on the rack or use it for holding cast iron pans.  This allows you to use campfire tripods for a wide range of foo. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/stew-in-pot-with-campfire-tripod.jpg "stew in pot with campfire tripod - Mom Goes Camping")Stews and other slow cook foods are great for campfire tripods ### Setting Up the Tripod Once the fire it going, it can be tricky to move the tripod around.  So, you want to make sure it’s set up properly *before* you light the fire.  Here’s how. 1. Assemble your tripod. 2. Position the tripod over your fire pit. The legs need to be evenly spaced and on solid ground. They should be far enough apart that you can access the fire. 3. Pull the chain. Does the tripod feel stable? 4. Hang your empty pot or grill from the tripod chain. 5. Adjust the chain height. You can put a few pieces of wood underneath the pot to get an idea of the height. 6. Once you have the right height, remove the empty pot. 7. Make a fire and let it burn down. 8. Once you have a large bed of coals, hang your pot on the tripod and start cooking. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/cooking-tripod.jpg "cooking tripod - Mom Goes Camping")The wider the base the sturdier your tripod will be ### Adjusting the Height Adjusting the height of the tripod allows you to control the cooking temperature. There are two ways to adjust the height. - **Adjust legs.** This should only be done *before* you start cooking. It’s not safe to move the tripod once the fire is burning. Remember that a wider base is more stable, so don’t move the tripod legs too close together. - **Adjust the chain.** Try to get the right length *before* you start cooking. If you need to adjust the chain after you’ve started, remove the pot from the chain. Do NOT try to adjust the chain with the pot hanging from it! ### What Height? - **Slow-cook meals and simmering:** Hang the pot further away from the fire to allow for convection cooking. - **Grilling:** you’ll want the rack to be closed to the fire so it touches flames or gets the smoky taste of charcoal. - **Boiling:** Hang the pot closer to the fire but keep it closed so ashes don’t get into your water. **Pro Tip:** Wear heat-resistant gloves when handling the tripod or cooking equipment. It’s safer and reduces the likelihood of dropping your pot! ## Best Campfire Cooking Tripods If you want to buy a tripod for campfire cooking, you’ll need to pay attention to these features: - **Weight capacity.** If using a large pot or cast iron, the tripod will need a high weight capacity. - Does it have a collapsible design? How much does it weight? - **Base size.** The wider the tripod’s base is, the more stable it will be. However, this means that the tripod will be larger. - **Adjustable height chain.** You can use this to lower the height of your cooking pot. - **Grill rack.** This accessory allows you to cook many other types of food from your tripod. **Below are the top picks for campfire cooking tripods.** 1 [![Stansport Steel Cooking Tripod](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/3139IQ1M1XL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001FSJHHI?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [Stansport Steel Cooking Tripod](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001FSJHHI?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) **Verdict:** Cheap yet strong cooking tripod that can hold heavy Dutch ovens - Weighs: 13lbs - Height: 43” - Chain length: 25” - Heavy duty steel [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001FSJHHI?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) 2 [![Coleman Tripod with Grill](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/31l3hBIfRqL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000MPOKRW?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [Coleman Tripod with Grill](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000MPOKRW?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) **Verdict:** Affordable and packable set, but not strong enough for large cast iron cookware - Weighs: 7lbs - Folding legs - Max Height: 43” - Folded size: Approx. 19” - Includes 17” grill - Aluminum [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000MPOKRW?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) 3 [![Solo Stove Campfire Tripod](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/314ef8e5AQL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IDEBFUY?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [Solo Stove Campfire Tripod](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IDEBFUY?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) **Verdict:** Very lightweight and portable tripod for simple meals - Weighs: 19oz - Folding legs - Max Height: 43” - Folded size: Approx. 12” - Aluminum [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IDEBFUY?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) 4 [![Goldace Tripod Plate and Chain](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/417Oz3ouI-L._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08HKDG1V5?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) [Goldace Tripod Plate and Chain](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08HKDG1V5?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) **Verdict:** Great portable solution if you don’t mind finding sticks for the tripod legs. - Weighs: 148g - Chain length: 46” - Hole size: 0.78” [Check Price](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08HKDG1V5?tag=momgoescampin-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) ## How to Make a Cooking Tripod[![tripod for cooking over campfire](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/7566852782_d03bfdc633_c.jpg "campfire tripod for cooking - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/7566852782_d03bfdc633_c.jpg) If you don’t feel like buying a cooking tripod or carrying one to camp, you can easily make one.  You’ll just need sticks, rope and a bit of knowhow. ### 1. Find Your Tripod Legs Finding sticks to use for your tripod legs can be tricky, especially if you are using large pots or cast iron. The legs may need to be 4 to 6 feet long and strong enough to hold your full pot.  Make sure the branches aren’t rotting or split in parts. ### 2. Lash Tripod Legs Together Tie your sticks or branches together with the tripod lashing shown below.  Once tied, set up your tripod over the fire pit. [![how to make cooking tripod](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/cooking-tripod-basic.jpg "cooking tripod basic - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/cooking-tripod-basic.jpg) ### 3. Hanging a Pot without a Chain Now that you’ve made your tripod, you’ll need to hang the pot from it. You can bring a hook and chain.  Or, use one of these three DIY methods.[![hang pot from cooking tripod](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/hang-pot-from-cooking-tripod.jpg "hang pot from cooking tripod - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/hang-pot-from-cooking-tripod.jpg) **Method 1: Hooked stick** Find a long, hooked stick. Cut a V-shaped notch in the non-hooked end. Put the hooked end over the tripod. Hang the pot from the notch. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/notch-in-stick-for-hanging-pot.jpg "notch in stick for hanging pot - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/notch-in-stick-for-hanging-pot.jpg)Cut a notch in the stick for holding your pot hanger #### **2: Toggle stick** Tie a rope around a sturdy “toggle stick” using a clove hithc. Hang the stick from the tripod center with rope. Put the pot handle over the stick to hang. #### **3: Adjustable height pot hanger** Cut a groove into the top of a hooked branch. Tie a long rope on the stick so it sits in the groove. Run the rope over the tripod and tie to a nearby tree. The hooked part holds your pot. Use rope to adjust the height of the pot hanger. --- **Wants this info (and more) in PRINTABLE format? 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Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Food --- ### [BOB Alterrain Pro vs Thule Urban Glide 2 (for Hiking and Off-Road Jogging)](https://momgoescamping.com/bob-alterrain-pro-vs-thule-urban-glide-2/) **Published:** July 5, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Trying to decide between the Thule Urban Glide 2 and BOB Alterrain Pro?  Both are great strollers for off-road hiking and jogging.   When it comes to price and core features, the strollers are very similar – but there are some key differences which you should know.  Here’s a detailed comparison and which stroller is better. ## Quick Verdict: The main differences between the Thule Urban Glide 2 and BOB Alterrain Pro are the suspension systems, hand brakes and seating positions. - **Choose the Thule Urban Glide 2** if you go downhill often and need the better hand brake, and if you don’t mind that the seat doesn’t sit completely straight up. - **Choose BOB Alterrain Pro** for its amazing suspension and handling on bumpy trails, fully-upright seating and full-coverage canopy. But, if you go on hills a lot, you’ll probably be disappointed with the hand brake. **Check prices at [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fc%2Fstrollers-and-accessories) and [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3ac6dqV)** **Also read: [Best Off-Road Strollers for Hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/all-terrain-strollers-hiking/)** ## Comparison Table \[table id=63 /\] ## Videos ## Thule Urban Glide 2 vs. BOB Alterrain Pro Here’s a complete breakdown of the main differences between the two strollers. ### Handling and Suspension Both the Thule Urban Glide 2 and Alterrain Pro handle amazingly well.  They have mountain-bike style suspension systems which allow you to go off-road and on bumpy trails.  **Of the two strollers, the BOB Alterrain Pro suspension is better.**  If you aren’t going on insanely bumpy trails though, you probably won’t need this good of a suspension system. As for jogging, with both strollers you can put the front wheel in locked position. Both strollers also have adjustable front wheel tracking. This allows you to fine tune the wheel alignment so the stroller so it goes straight. **The Thule Urban Glide 2 is more popular for jogging.**  It’s lighter than the BOB, so it’s easier to run fast with it.  By contrast, the BOB is more popular for hiking. ### Braking The Thule Urban Glide 2 and BOB Alterrain Pro both have flip-flop friendly foot brakes.  They also both have hand breaks.  A hand brake is incredibly useful when going down hills! Most hiking strollers do not have this feature. The difference between the brakes is this: **The Thule hand break is twist-style.  The BOB hand brake is uses a lever.  Of the two, the Thule hand brake is much better.** The reason the Thule hand brake is better is because it connects to *two* cables (on for each wheel). By contrast, the BOB Alterrain Pro lever connects to *one* cable which then splits outwards to go to each wheel. This means you’ve got a lot of force going through one cable. That’s a lot for one lever to handle and the cables will get stretched out quickly. People with small hands will also like the Thule break better – the BOB brake lever is set somewhat far back from the handlebar so can be a bit hard for people with small hands to squeeze. One reviewer on Amazon actually completely modified the BOB Alterrain Pro brake to make it work. They said: > It’s a bad design. So I set out to fix it. First I ripped the existing hand brake lever and cables out. Then added two bike brake levers and all new housing and cables that go to each wheel’s drum brake. This way pulling both levers at the same time doubles the amount of brake force from stock. The bike brake levers are also longer that you get better leverage and smoothness. BOB really should have just used a quality bike brake lever instead of the “toy” quality brake they decided to go with.” **Note:** The regular BOB Alterrain stroller doesn’t have a hand brake and costs considerably less.  If you are just going to modify the brake, you might as well buy the cheaper version of the stroller and have a bike mechanic add a (quality) braking system! Read about the [difference between the regular and Pro](https://momgoescamping.com/bob-alterrain-pro-stroller-review/) here. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/brakes.jpg "BOB Alterrain Pro brakes (L) vs. Thule Urban Glide 2 brakes (R) - Mom Goes Camping")*BOB Alterrain Pro brakes L vs Thule Urban Glide 2 brakes R* ### Handlebar The Thule Urban Glide 2 and BOB Alterrain Pro both have adjustable handlebars.   Of the two, **the BOB Alterrain Pro handlebar is better**, especially for short or tall people, because it has more height positions. **Here are the handlebar heights:** - **Urban Glide 2:** 35.5-44 inches - **Alterrain Pro:** 31-48 inches ### Folding and Storage Both the Thule Urban Glide 2 and BOB Alterrain Pro have one-handed folding.  The method is pretty much identical with each.  Unfortunately the one-handed folding means the strollers fold with the fabric outwards.  If this is a deal breaker for you, then you’ll prefer the [BOB Revolution 3.0](https://momgoescamping.com/bob-revolution-flex-3-0-review/). Once folded, the Thule Urban Glide 2 is more compact.  But it doesn’t stand upright.  The BOB Alterrain Pro is slightly bulkier, but it does stand upright.  Just note that it easily topples over, so don’t put a dirty stroller right next to a clean wall! [![thule urban glide 2.0 folded](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/thule-urban-glide-2.0-folded.jpg "thule urban glide 2.0 folded - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/thule-urban-glide-2.0-folded.jpg)*Thule Urban Glide 20 folded with wheels on*  ### Size and Weight When it comes to size, **the** **BOB Alterrain Pro is slightly narrower**.  Those few inches can make a big difference when it comes to fitting the open stroller through small elevator doors or narrow supermarket aisles!  It is also slightly more compact when folded with the wheels off. But **the Thule Urban Glide is much lighter**.  If you have a bad back or are still recovering from a C-section, it will be easier to lift this stroller into your car. #### **Thule Urban Glide 2 Size/Weight:** - **Weight:** 25.3lbs - **Open:** 41.1(L) x 40(H) x 27.2W inches - **Folded Wheels On:** 35(L) x 18(H) x 27.2(W) inches - **Folded Wheels Off:** 34.2(L) x 13.3(H) x 27.2(W) inches #### **BOB Alterrain Pro Size/Weight:** - **Weight:** 32.3lbs - **Open:** 46(L) x 45.5(H) x 25.5(W) inches - **Folded Wheels On:** 39.25(L) x 16(H) x 25.5(W) inches - **Folded Wheels Off:** 33(L) x 13(H) x 21.5(W) inches ### Comfort for Your Kid Both strollers are going to give your child a very comfortable ride.  They both have features like: - Near-flat recline - One-hand recline adjustment - Ventilated seatback and canopy - UPF 50 canopy However, if we want to be picky (and we do!), then **the BOB Alterrain Pro is the more comfortable stroller for your child**. **Reasons the BOB Alterrain Pro wins are:** - Fully upright seating - Canopy goes down very low – keeps sun off your child while sleeping! - Fully waterproof canopy (the Urban Glide 2 is just water resistant) **The fully upright seating feature is a big deal.**  It might seem trivial but tons of parents complained that the Thule Urban Glide 2 doesn’t go fully upright.  Note that your child really should be slightly reclined when on very bumpy terrain (the position disperses shock better).  But, if you are using the stroller around town or want to do feedings in the stroller, you’ll really love the upright seating. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/thule-position.jpg "thule position - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/thule-position.jpg)*This is the most upright the Thule seat will go* ### Age and Weight Limits The BOB Alterrain Pro also has a wider seat than the Thule Urban Glide 2 (14.5 inches versus 12.4 inches), so you’ll get more use out of it.  It also has a higher max child weight (75lbs vs. 48.5lbs).  Note, however, both strollers have the same max weight limit of 75lbs for the entire stroller.  This weight limit includes anything you put in the basket. #### **Thule Urban Glide 2.0** - **Seat width:** 12.4 inches - **Seat height:** 21 inches - **Child weight max:** 48.5lbs - **Max weight in stroller:** 75lbs - **Age limit:** - From birth with car seat adapter (walk only) From 6 months in stroller seat (jogging) #### **BOB Alterrain Pro** - **Seat width:** 14.5 inches - **Seat height:** 20 inches - **Child weight max:** 75lbs - **Max weight in stroller:** 75lbs - **Age limit:** - From birth with car seat adapter (walk only) - From 8 weeks in stroller seat (walk only) - From 8 months in stroller seat (jogging/off-road) ### Car Seat Compatibility **Thule Urban Glide 2.0 has a universal car seat adapter.**  They also have a specific Nuna/Max-Cosi/Cybex adapter and a Chicco adapter, though the universal adapter works with those car seats. By contrast, the BOB Alterrain Pro adapter only works with these car seats: - Britax/BOB - Chicco - Graco - Peg-Perego ### Extra Features Both strollers have some nice extra features, such as: - Peek-a-boo window with magnetic closure - Massive cargo basket with zip closure - Reflective trim for visibility in the dark - Lots of pockets (though the Alterrain Pro has more) Note that Thule has a lot of accessories that you can get for the stroller, including a bassinet.  But these accessories are really expensive! You can save money by looking for generic-brand accessories which are compatible. ### Price: Both the Thule Urban Glide 2 and BOB Alterrain Pro are expensive strollers.  As of writing, the Alterrain Pro is more expensive (though saving approx. $50 probably doesn’t matter much when you are already spending so much on a stroller!). The prices of these strollers can really vary though depending on sales and availability.  For example, I recently saw the green version of the Urban Glide on REI for $150 cheaper than the black version. **Check prices at [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fc%2Fstrollers-and-accessories) and [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3ac6dqV).** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** strollers --- ### [Super Easy Dehydrator Hummus Backpacking Recipe](https://momgoescamping.com/dehydrator-hummus-backpacking-recipe/) **Published:** August 16, 2017 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Along with my [Sawyer Mini water filter](https://momgoescamping.com/sawyer-mini-water-filter-review/), my favorite piece of backpacking gear is my dehydrator.  No, I don’t lug my dehydrator around with me on the trail. 🙂  However, I do use it to make dehydrated backpacking meals.  DIY dehydrated meals not only cut down on backpacking expenses, but also save you a lot of weight. You can dehydrate practically anything. In addition to the obvious fruits for homemade trail mix, you can also dehydrate things like tomato sauce, cooked veggies, and beans. I even dehydrate entire meals on my dehydrator. Then I can just add water on the trail to rehydrate them.  If you are interested in learning how to make dehydrator backpacking meals, get my ebook.  It has over 50 recipes, plus tons of advice on meal planning and nutrition for backpacking.  [Get the ebook now](https://gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck/). [![backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/backpacking-dehydrator-recipes-ebook.jpg "backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook - Mom Goes Camping")](https://gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck/) One of my favorite dehydrator backpacking recipes is hummus. It’s fast, easy, and dries very lightweight.  How light? It might vary on the hummus recipe you use, but you can expect around 190 calories per ounce!!!  That’s way over the [120 calories/oz recommendation](https://momgoescamping.com/calorie-dense-healthy-backpacking-foods/) for backpacking food. ## Backpacking Dehydrator Hummus Instructions ![crackers and hummus vegan backpacking lunch idea](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/crackers-640x703.jpg "crackers - Mom Goes Camping")*Heres a gourmet as heck backpacking lunch homemade red pepper crackers and hummus all on the dehydrator* Dehydrated hummus is really simple to make. ### **Step 1: Make hummus.** Use whatever recipe you like.  Or buy readymade hummus. Avoid hummus recipes which call for a lot of oil or tahini.  Too much fat in your hummus will make it go bad faster.  You can always bring a little bottle of olive oil with you backpacking and add it to your rehydrated hummus. ### **Step 2: Prepare your dehydrator sheets** Obviously you can’t just spread hummus on your dehydrator racks.  It would fall through the holes.  Instead, you’ve got to put a sheet down for it. You can [buy dehydrator sheets like these ones](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EIWF25I/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=superfoodjournal-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B01EIWF25I&linkId=7597ba84b5cde249e594f6662072a63c) for fairly cheap.  They are basically a mesh screen.  The purpose is to let the air through without letting the food fall through.  You can buy any brand of sheets and just cut them to fit your dehydrator. Alternatively, you can just use parchment paper.  The problem with parchment paper is that it blocks air flow, which means your hummus won’t dry out well.  To solve this problem, you can poke a bunch of holes into the parchment paper. Or, use small circles of parchment paper (as opposed to paper cut to fit your dehydrator trays).  This allows for much better air flow. ![dehydrating hummus](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/dehydrating-hummus-1.jpg "dehydrating hummus 1 - Mom Goes Camping") ### **Step 3: Spread hummus on the sheets** I spread it to be about ¼ to ½ inch thick.  Try to make the thickness uniform across so they dehydrate evenly. ### **Step 4: Dehydrate**  I’m not too scientific about this.   I dehydrate pretty much everything at 104 degrees F (40 degrees C).  Hummus usually takes about 12 hours to dehydrate.  It helps to rotate the trays at least once.  Otherwise the hummus on the bottom will dehydrate first. You’ll know it is done when the hummus is very dry.  It will look a bit like bark. You should be able to break it easily.  If you used a lot of oil in the hummus, it might bend more than break. ### Step 5: Grind Up (Optional) This step is optional, but I find it helpful to grind up the dried hummus in my high-speed blender.  This creates a hummus powder.  The reason for doing this is because the hummus will rehydrate a lot faster and without clumps. If you skip this step, at least crumble your hummus up as much as possible before you rehydrate. ## Rehydrating Your Dried Hummus Again, this is easy.  Just add water to the dried hummus.  Let it sit for a few minutes.  Stir to get out any clumps. How to eat on the trail? - On bagels - In tortillas - With couscous - As pasta sauce ## How Long Does Dehydrated Hummus Last? Dehydrated hummus will usually last at least 4 to 6 weeks if kept at room temperature in a closed zip plastic bag.  However, the shelf life can be a lot shorter, especially if the hummus has a lot of oil in it or the temperatures are high. Oil does not dehydrate. If your dehydrated hummus has a lot of oil, it will be moist.  The moisture can cause the hummus to go bad faster.  The oil itself can also start to go rancid.  It isn’t dangerousto eat rancid oil (it won’t make you sick like spoiled meat or dairy will), but it gets a gross sour taste. Also remember that dehydrated foods will absorb the taste of whatever they are stored next to.  So don’t store your dehydrated hummus right next to your dehydrated bananas unless you like banana hummus! ## **Other Dehydrator Backpacking Recipes** Below you can see some pictures of dehydrator backpacking meals I’ve made.  All of the recipes are available in my eBook. There’s also tons of advice on backpacking meal planning and nutrition. [**Get it here for 50% off**](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmetasheck50off) ![camping meals](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/gallery-min-640x647.jpg "gallery-min - Mom Goes Camping")These dehydrator meals pack in over 130 calories per ounce dry weight Just add water to rehydrate [Get the recipe ebook here at 50 off](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmetasheck50off) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Food **Tags:** dehydrator --- ### [Why I Hate the LifeStraw Water Filter for Backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/lifestraw-water-filter-backpacking/) **Published:** August 24, 2018 **Author:** Diane **Content:** In 2005, the LifeStraw water filter came out.  It was accompanied by cool images of rugged outdoorsy types drinking from puddles. Even a decade later, there is still a lot of hype around the LifeStraw. I’m not going to deny that the LifeStraw is a cool idea. It is great because it is: - Portable - Easy to use - Can filter up to 4000 liters/1000 gallons - Removes 99.999% of bacteria and parasites from water including giardia, E. coli, and Cryptosporidium However, the LifeStraw water filter simply isn’t practical for backpacking for these reasons.  Since people in my local FB hiking group keep talking about the LifeStraw, I decided it was time to write a post addressing why I hate the LifeStraw so much. ## You Can’t Take Water with You The LifeStraw water filter can only be used as a straw.  That means you need to be next to your water source to use it. This obviously makes some problems for backpacking. - You’d have to stop and crouch next to the water source every time you want to take a sip of water. - Unless you are following a stream for 100% of your hike, you won’t always have water to drink. - Even if you are ok with sipping from a stream every time you get thirsty, it is annoying and time-consuming. ![using the LifeStraw to drink from puddle](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/drinking-from-puddle.jpg "drinking from puddle - Mom Goes Camping")*This looks cool but is really impractical* The company is aware of this flaw and has tried to fix it with the “LifeStraw Go” product.  Basically, it’s a water bottle where you put the dirty water.  Then you use the LifeStraw to drink the water from the bottle. ![LifeStraw Go](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/lifestraw-go-89x300.png "lifestraw go - Mom Goes Camping") However, the LifeStraw Go doesn’t solve the next problem with LifeStraw… ## You Can’t Use LifeStraw to Get Water into a Container Let’s say that you need water for cooking.  There is no way to use the LifeStraw to get clean water into a pot or other vessel. True, you could boil the water for at least 1 minute to make it safe to drink… but what if you want to make a just-add-water meal (like this dehydrated hummus)? If you were really desperate, you could suck dirty water through the LifeStraw and spit it into the container.  This is not something that I’d want to do. ## There Are Better Alternatives to LifeStraw I wouldn’t hate the LifeStraw so much if there weren’t great alternatives.  Personally, I use the Sawyer Mini (read [my review](https://momgoescamping.com/sawyer-mini-water-filter-review/) here). The Sawyer Mini also can work as a straw, so you can get those cool shots of yourself drinking water from a puddle (not sure why’d you want to do this though). But you can also screw the Sawyer Mini onto a plastic bottle or the included pouch.  Just fill the bottle or pouch with dirty water, then squeeze through the Sawyer Mini to get clean water for drinking, cooking, or whatever. **You can [buy the Sawyer Mini here](https://amzn.to/2MtOMUF).** ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/IMG_3691-1024x934.jpg "img_3691 - Mom Goes Camping")This is me filtering water with the Sawyer Mini Im using a plastic bottle instead of the pouch to filter clean water into a separate bottle![sawyer mini water filter](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/IMG_5083.jpg "sawyer mini tips - Mom Goes Camping")Ive used the Sawyer Mini while backpacking and countries where the water isnt safe to drink like here on the beach in Albania Admittedly, the Sawyer Mini does have a really slow flow rate. I’ve recently gotten the [Sawyer Squeeze](https://amzn.to/2OJgk62), which works the same way but filters a lot faster. It is a bit bigger and costs a bit more than the Sawyer Mini. If you are going to be backpacking with more people, a pump-style water filter might be the better bet.  The [Katadyn Hiker Microfilter](https://amzn.to/2Mw4ajj) or the [MSR MiniWorks EX Microfilter](https://amzn.to/2MhWNNj). These are pricier options though, and the filters don’t last as long. ## Note: I do want to say that LifeStraw does a lot of great work.  The filter was originally designed as a way to remove Guinea worm larvae and more than 37 million LifeStraw Guinea Worm filters have been given to people in the developing world. LifeStraw also gives away their products for free to the developing world and a portion of proceeds go towards supplying communities with LifeStraw “community” filters. This doesn’t mean you need to buy an impractical water filter to help people in the developing world though.  You can also make a private donation.  Or Sawyer has an option where you can make a donation to solve drinking water problems.  100% of your donation goes towards their clean water programs.  [Learn more about making a donation here](https://www.sawyer.com/charities). --- Image credit for guy using LifeStraw in a puddle: “[P1090143](https://www.flickr.com/photos/barretthall/30559473351/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [popofatticus](https://www.flickr.com/people/barretthall/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** LifeStraw, Sawyer Mini, water filter --- ### [Tips for Using the Sawyer Mini Water Filter](https://momgoescamping.com/sawyer-mini-tips/) **Published:** November 6, 2025 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I’ve been using a Sawyer Mini water filter for over five years across countless camping trips, backpacking adventures, and family hikes. During that time, I’ve learned exactly what works, what doesn’t, and how to solve the most common frustrations people encounter with this popular filter. The Sawyer Mini is one of my go-to pieces of gear because it’s lightweight (just 2 ounces), compact enough to fit in your palm, surprisingly affordable, and never needs replacement filters. But here’s the reality: it’s far from perfect. You WILL encounter issues when using it, especially on multi-day trips. The good news? Most of these problems have simple solutions once you know about them. After years of trial and error in the backcountry, I’ve figured out the workarounds that actually work. Here are my field-tested tips for getting the most out of your Sawyer Mini. Also Read: [Best Backpacking Water Filters and Purifiers](https://momgoescamping.com/best-backpacking-water-filters-purifiers/) ## The Dirty Water Pouch Will Break (And What To Do About It) Let me start with the most important tip: Don’t rely solely on the dirty water pouch that comes with your Sawyer Mini. The included pouch screws directly onto the filter, and the concept is simple – fill it with untreated water and squeeze to push water through the filter. It works great… until it doesn’t. The pouch seams WILL eventually burst, usually at the most inconvenient moment possible. I learned this the hard way on a three-day backpacking trip when my pouch split wide open on day two. If your pouch fails in the middle of a remote trip without a backup, you could find yourself in a serious situation. Water is non-negotiable in the backcountry. ### Always Bring a Backup Pouch After my pouch disaster, I never hit the trail without at least one spare. The official Sawyer replacement pouches work well but cost quite a bit for what they are. I’ve had excellent results with [these affordable compatible pouches](http://amzn.to/2dtmjeZ) that fit the Sawyer Mini perfectly and cost a fraction of the price. Yes, these cheaper pouches will also eventually fail – nothing lasts forever when you’re squeezing it repeatedly in the field. But at this price point, I can afford to replace them regularly and always pack extras. The cheap pouch shown in the photo below lasted me four separate trips before showing any wear. ![Sawyer Mini water filter attached to an affordable replacement pouch while camping, demonstrating a reliable backup option that lasted through four backpacking trips](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/IMG_4519-1024x683.jpg) ## The Plastic Bottle Method (My Preferred Technique) Here’s a technique that completely changed how I use my Sawyer Mini: skip the pouch entirely and use a standard plastic water bottle instead. Any water bottle with normal-sized threads will screw onto the Sawyer Mini. This method is actually more durable than using pouches since bottles don’t burst at the seams. I’ve been using the same “dirty water bottle” for an entire season without issues. However, there’s one challenge you need to know about: as you squeeze the bottle to push water through the filter, you’ll create a vacuum inside. This vacuum makes it increasingly difficult to squeeze out water. I’ve discovered two solutions: ### Method 1: The Unscrew-Rescrew Technique Periodically unscrew the Sawyer Mini from the bottle slightly to release the vacuum, then tighten it back down and continue filtering. Yes, it’s a bit annoying and interrupts your rhythm, but it works in a pinch. ### Method 2: The Ventilation Hole (My Go-To) This is my preferred solution. Make a tiny hole in the bottom of your designated dirty water bottle using a pin or small drill bit. As you squeeze, keep your finger over the hole. When you feel resistance from the vacuum, simply remove your finger to let air in, then continue squeezing. This small modification makes the entire filtering process much smoother. Just remember to use a different bottle for your clean drinking water! ![Plastic water bottle deformed from repeated squeezing while using Sawyer Mini filter, showing the practical alternative to using filter pouches in backcountry water treatment](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/IMG_5083.jpg) ## Dealing With Bad-Tasting Water The Sawyer Mini effectively removes bacteria and protozoan parasites from water – that’s what it’s designed for. What it doesn’t remove is the taste and odor from organic matter, minerals, or algae. When I’m filtering from clear backcountry streams, taste is rarely an issue. The water comes out clean and refreshing. But when I’ve had to filter from stagnant ponds or murky lakes (sometimes there’s no other option), the filtered water can taste… well, let’s just say unpleasant. It’s safe to drink, but your taste buds won’t be happy. ### The Flavor Packet Solution I always pack flavor packets like Emergen-C, Crystal Light, or electrolyte drink mixes. They mask any off-putting tastes while adding some welcome flavor variety to your hydration. The electrolyte versions serve double duty by helping you stay properly hydrated during strenuous hiking. Pro tip: I bring a variety pack so I’m not stuck drinking the same flavor for three days straight. Your morale will thank you. For more tips on staying hydrated while hiking, check out my guide on [backpacking with kids](https://momgoescamping.com/category/backpacking/) where proper hydration is crucial. ## The Flow Rate Reality Check Let’s talk about the Sawyer Mini’s biggest limitation: it’s slow. Really slow. The official flow rate is 1 liter per 5.5 minutes, and in real-world conditions with cold water or a partially clogged filter, it can take even longer. After using this filter for years, I’ve made peace with the slow flow rate. I actually enjoy the morning ritual of filtering water while I prep breakfast at camp. It’s become part of my backcountry routine. The sunrise, the sounds of nature, the smell of coffee brewing, and the steady squeeze-squeeze-squeeze of filtering water – it’s meditative. ### Solutions For Group Trips That said, if you’re filtering water for multiple people, the slow speed becomes a real bottleneck. Here are my recommendations: **Option 1: Multiple Filters** – Since Sawyer Minis are lightweight and inexpensive, I recommend getting one for each person on group trips. Everyone filters their own water simultaneously, and suddenly that 5.5-minute-per-liter rate doesn’t matter as much. This is what we do on our family [camping trips](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-with-kids/). **Option 2: Upgrade to the Sawyer Squeeze** – If the slow flow drives you crazy, consider the [Sawyer Squeeze](http://amzn.to/2dsu7Pc) instead. It’s slightly heavier (2.5 ounces versus 1.9 ounces) but filters 1 liter in just 2 minutes – nearly three times faster. For solo backpackers or couples, this speed boost might be worth the minimal weight penalty. ![Filtering water with Sawyer Mini attached to plastic bottle in outdoor camping setting, demonstrating real-world backcountry water treatment technique](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/IMG_3691-1024x934.jpg) ## Upgrade to a Larger Pouch If you’re sticking with the pouch system, constantly refilling that tiny pouch gets old fast. The standard pouch holds such a small volume that you’re refilling it multiple times just to fill a single water bottle. A larger-capacity pouch saves time and reduces the number of trips to your water source. This is especially valuable when your water source requires a steep scramble down to a creek or when weather conditions make you want to minimize time outside your tent. ### A Word of Caution About Platypus Bags I’ve experimented with various larger pouches over the years. The older Platypus bags were compatible with the Sawyer Mini threads, but the newer versions aren’t. More importantly, I’ve read multiple reports from other backpackers about potential cross-contamination issues where dirty water leaked into the clean water side through faulty seams in some Platypus bags. Because of this, I personally stick with my affordable compatible pouches. Yes, they’re smaller and require more frequent refilling, but I’d rather deal with that minor inconvenience than risk water contamination. ## The Shallow Water Challenge (And Solutions) You won’t appreciate this tip until you’re crouched beside a barely-trickling stream trying to fill your pouch or bottle. Shallow water sources are surprisingly common, especially in late season or drought conditions, and filling your Sawyer pouch from a creek that’s only an inch deep is genuinely difficult. Over the years, I’ve tried various scooping methods that other backpackers recommend. Here’s what actually works: ### SmartWater Bottles (My Top Pick) SmartWater bottles (the USA versions) have narrower openings that are much easier to dip into shallow water. They also happen to screw onto the Sawyer Mini perfectly. I now carry a SmartWater bottle specifically as my “dirty water” collection bottle. Important note: UK and EU SmartWater bottles have different threading and won’t fit, so verify compatibility if you’re purchasing outside the US. ### Other Scooping Options That Work **Ziplock Bag Method** – Cut the corner off a ziplock bag at an angle to create a funnel-spout. Use this to scoop water and pour it into your pouch. It weighs almost nothing and packs completely flat. **DIY Soda Bottle Scoop** – Cut the top third off a plastic soda bottle to create a lightweight scoop. You can nest gear inside it during transit. While it doesn’t fold flat like the ziplock method, it’s more durable and easier to use. **Cook Pot Method** – In a pinch, scoop water with your cooking pot. It will be sanitized when you boil water for cooking anyway. This is my backup plan when I’ve forgotten other options. ## Backwashing Without the Bulky Syringe When you’re filtering from murky water sources with sediment or organic matter, your Sawyer Mini will gradually clog. You’ll notice the flow rate getting slower and slower as particulates block the hollow fiber membranes inside. The solution is backwashing – forcing clean water backward through the filter to flush out the accumulated debris. The Sawyer Mini comes with a large syringe specifically for this purpose, but here’s the problem: that syringe is bulky and defeats the entire “ultralight” appeal of the filter. ### The SmartWater Flip-Top Trick I discovered that a SmartWater bottle with a flip-top cap fits the Sawyer Mini perfectly for backwashing. Fill it with clean filtered water, flip open the top, attach it to the “clean” side of your Sawyer Mini, and squeeze forcefully. The water pressure pushes backward through the filter, ejecting the trapped gunk out the “dirty” side. This method is just as effective as using the syringe but adds virtually no weight or bulk to your pack. I backwash my filter every evening after filtering the day’s water, which keeps the flow rate consistent throughout multi-day trips. ## Understanding What the Sawyer Mini Doesn’t Remove This is crucial: the Sawyer Mini is a filter, not a purifier. It removes bacteria and protozoan parasites (like Giardia and Cryptosporidium) but does NOT remove viruses or chemical contaminants. ### When Should You Worry About Viruses? In North American backcountry, viruses are rarely a concern. Most waterborne illnesses in wilderness areas come from bacteria and parasites, which the Sawyer Mini handles effectively. However, viruses can be present in: - Popular hiking areas with heavy human traffic where improper waste disposal near water sources is common - International destinations, particularly in developing countries - Any water source with suspected human sewage contamination For these situations, you’ll need a true purifier or chemical treatment. Check out my comprehensive guide to [backpacking water filters and purifiers](https://momgoescamping.com/best-backpacking-water-filters-purifiers/) for alternatives that handle viruses. ### Chemical Contamination Concerns The Sawyer Mini also won’t remove chemicals, heavy metals, or agricultural runoff. If you’re filtering near: - Agricultural areas with pesticide or fertilizer runoff - Mining operations - Industrial sites - Areas with known water contamination You’ll need a different solution, such as a filter with activated carbon or a purification system specifically designed for chemical removal. When planning your [camping trips](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-checklist/), research the water quality in your destination area beforehand. ## My Final Thoughts After 5+ Years Despite its quirks and limitations, the Sawyer Mini remains in my backpacking kit for good reason. When you understand its weaknesses and plan accordingly, it’s an incredibly reliable and economical water treatment solution. The key is managing expectations. This isn’t a high-flow, effortless filter – it requires patience and a bit of technique. But once you’ve internalized these tips and developed your filtering routine, the Sawyer Mini becomes second nature. For solo backpackers and lightweight enthusiasts who don’t mind the slower flow rate, it’s hard to beat. For families and groups, either multiple filters or an upgrade to the Sawyer Squeeze makes more sense. What matters most is that you’re getting out there, staying hydrated, and having adventures. Whether you’re [hitchhiking to remote trailheads](https://momgoescamping.com/hitchhiking-life-lessons/), tackling challenging [backpacking trips](https://momgoescamping.com%09/backpacking-food/), or introducing kids to overnight camping, clean water is essential. The Sawyer Mini gets the job done. ## Share Your Experience Do you use the Sawyer Mini or Sawyer Squeeze? What tips and tricks have you discovered in the field? I’m always learning new techniques from fellow backpackers, so drop your insights in the comments below. And if you found this guide helpful, consider sharing it with your hiking buddies – we all benefit from sharing hard-earned trail wisdom! ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** water filter --- ### [Jeep Hydro Sport Plus Stroller Review: How Does It Stack Up for Hiking and Off-Road Jogging?   ](https://momgoescamping.com/jeep-hydro-sport-plus-stroller-review/) **Published:** June 16, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Delta Children isn’t a very well-known brand for baby gear.  However, they have partnered with some notable brands for various collections, including with Jeep for a line of strollers.  The Jeep Hydro Sport Plus is one of the strollers in this line. If you are thinking of getting the Jeep Hydro Sport Plus for off-road jogging or [hiking with your baby](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-with-baby/), here’s my review and what you need to know before buying. **Also read: [Best All-Terrain Strollers](https://momgoescamping.com/all-terrain-strollers-hiking/)** ### Quick Verdict: Considering the price, it isn’t surprising that the suspension system or brakes on the Jeep Hydro Sport Plus aren’t as good as off-road joggers by more expensive brands like Thule or BOB.  However, the Jeep Hydro is more affordable while still being capable of handling fairly tough terrain.  It also folds down more compact than other off-road joggers. Potential deal breakers are that the stroller doesn’t have one-handed folding and has a low weight capacity. ### Main Pros: - Good suspension system for smooth ride on bumpy roads and paths - Folds more compact than other off-road joggers - Probably the most affordable off-road jogger you’ll find ### Main Cons: - Two-handed folding and opening - Braking system requires you to step on both sides to lock - No fully upright sitting position - Low weight capacity (50lbs) - Limited storage **[Get the Jeep Hydro Sport Plus Stroller Here](https://amzn.to/3JjTZuG)** ## **Jeep Hydro Sport Plus Stroller Main Features Overview:**   - **12” front wheel** - **16” back wheels** - **Air-filled tires** - **29lbs** - **50lbs capacity** - **Foot brake** - **Door Pass Through: 23.7”** - **Lockable front wheel** - **Folded dimensions: 17.5″L x 14.9″W x 30.5″H** - [**Buy Here** ](https://amzn.to/3JjTZuG) ## Jeep Hydro Sport Plus Stroller Full Review ### Handling The Jeep Hydro Sport Plus has large air-filled tires.  The front wheel is 12” and the back wheels are 16”.  The size of these alone makes it easier for the stroller to go over bumps.  You can lock the front wheel in place for jogging. In addition to the wheel design, the Jeep Hydro Sport Plus stroller also has a built-in suspension system.  The brand doesn’t give any info about exactly what suspension system they use.  However, it’s definitely not as good as the mountain bike suspensions used by Thule and BOB. Your baby will have a smooth ride on: - Grass - Bumpy sidewalks - A bit of mud - Some hiking trails However, the stroller definitely doesn’t handle gravel very well.  Your baby (and your arms) will get some jolts.  The same goes for any difficult hiking trails with lots of roots sticking out.   You can still use the stroller on this tougher terrain but the ride just won’t be smooth. **Note:** Delta Children has some other Jeep jogging strollers.  The Classic version does not have suspension systems! ### Brakes IMO, one of the biggest downsides about the Jeep Hydro Sport Plus is the braking system.  With most joggers, you step down on a bar between the wheels to lock both in place.  This is *not* the case with the Hydro Sport Plus. To lock the rear wheels, you have to press down on TWO levers located above each wheel.  If the grooves aren’t in the right position, you’ll have to move the wheels a bit forward to position them. To unlock, you have to flip both of these levers back up. This two-step process is slightly annoying and you’ll probably end up being lazy sometimes and only locking one wheel.   It also isn’t the most “flip-flop friendly” braking system since the brake levers are fairly small. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/jeep-stroller-braking-system.jpg "jeep stroller braking system - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/jeep-stroller-braking-system.jpg)There is a lever above each wheel that you have to step on to lock ### Handlebar After pushing two children up and down hills, I can testify how important it is to have multiple handlebar height settings.  It saves your wrist a lot of strain when you can put the handlebar in a lower position for the uphill and upper position for the downhill.   Obviously, the feature is also nice for users who are different heights. Luckily, this is one feature that the Jeep stroller gets right: there are plenty of handlebar positions.  Changing the position is quick and easy: just push the little buttons on the side of the handlebar and lock into position. ### Folding Method This is another downside of the Jeep Hydro Sport Plus stroller.  For starters, it requires two hands to fold.   The seat also needs to be in a fully reclined position before you can fold it. Bear in mind that a lot of joggers have two-handed folding.  However, those ones usually fold with the fabric facing *inwards*.  The Hydro Sport Plus folds with the fabric *outwards*.  If your vehicle trunk is dirty (mine always is), then the stroller seat area with get dirty. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/jeep-stroller-folded.jpg "jeep hydro sport plus stroller folded - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/jeep-stroller-folded.jpg)The folded stroller is compact and it self stands but the fabric is outwards ### Size and Weight of the Stroller When assembled, the Jeep Hydro Sport Plus stroller is 46.7″ (length) x 23.7″ (width) x 42.4″ (height). A standard door width is usually 28-32 inches, so the stroller will have no problem going through doorways. When folded, the Jeep Hydro Sport Plus is 17.5” x 14.9” x 30.5”.  Yes, this is very bulky and it might be tricky to fit in your car.  However, this is actually a lot smaller than most other jogging strollers – especially ones which can handle going off road. The back wheels are quick-release.  You can just pop them off to fit the stroller into smaller car trunks. ### Comfort for Your Child Overall, the Jeep Hydro Sport Plus is comfortable for babies and little children.  In addition to the smooth ride, there is enough room in the seat area.  The canopy is waterproof and has a fold-out UPF 50+ canopy.   There’s enough padding on the 5-point safety harness and it’s easy to adjust the seat position. **But there are some issues:** - **No fully upright seating position:** Even in the most upright position, the stroller seat won’t be at 90 degrees. - **No mesh ventilation:** Some off-road joggers have mesh panels on the side for ventilation. This one does not. - **Sun shade doesn’t cover entire seat:** The sun shade on the Hydro Sport Plus is really small. ### Age Range The Jeep Hydro Sport Plus stroller can be used with infants (with the car seat adapter) and up to 50lbs or 42 inches height.  That means you’ll probably be able to use the stroller until your child is 4 or even 5 years old. #### Car Seat Compatibility The Jeep Hydro Sport Plus comes with adapters for the following car seats (it’s nice that you don’t have to buy the adapters separately): - Graco SnugRide Click Connect Infant Car Seat - Evenflo Embrace Select Infant Car Seat - Evenflo Nurture Infant Car Seat - Chicco Keyfit 30 Infant Car Seat - Britax B-Safe 35 Infant Car Seat [![Jeep Hydro Sport Plus stroller with car seat adapter](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/jeep-stroller-with-car-seat.jpg "jeep stroller with car seat - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/jeep-stroller-with-car-seat.jpg) #### Note about Stroller Weight Limit Compared to other joggers, a 50lb weight limit is actually very low.  This might not seem to matter since most kids won’t reach 50lbs until they are way too old for strollers.  However, a low weight limit is a sign that the stroller isn’t as tough or durable. ### Storage and Extras The Jeep Hydro Sport Plus has a removable “parent tray” on the handlebars which has two cup holders and a phone holder.   There is also a fairly large basket at the bottom.  **But each of these has a weight limit of just 3lbs!** Three pounds might be okay for the parent tray.  But 3lbs for the basket???  This low weight limit means you can’t use the Jeep stroller for things like grocery runs. The child snack tray is a nice extra though.  It is removable and can be swung open – which makes getting your child in/out of the stroller a lot easier. ### Warranty The warranty on the Jeep Hydro Sport Plus stroller is only 90 days.  If you go online and register your stroller, the warranty is extended to 2 years.  So don’t forget to do this after buying! Unfortunately, the extended warranty is only available in these states: AR, CO, DE, DC, GA, ID, IL, IN, IA, KS, KY, LA, MD, MI, MS, MO, NE, NV, NH, NY, NC, PA, RI, SD, TN, UT, WV. ## The Bottom Line? If you can afford to pay more, I’d recommend getting the [Thule Urban Glide 2.0](https://momgoescamping.com/thule-urban-glide-2-0-review/) stroller or [BOB Flex Revolution 3.0](https://momgoescamping.com/bob-revolution-flex-3-0-review/).  Both have better suspension, folding and braking systems.  If budget is your primary concern though, the Jeep Hydro Sport Plus is still a really good jogger which will let you go on tough terrain. ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** stroller --- ### [The 7 Best Portable Toddler Beds for Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/toddler-camping-beds/) **Published:** December 9, 2024 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Getting a squirmy toddler to sleep in a tent can be a challenge. Having their own little camping bed can make the ordeal a lot easier.  Not all portable beds work well for camping though.  You’ll need one which actually fits in the tent, doens’t make a lot of noise, and won’t tear holes in your tent floor.  Below you’ll find info on how to choose the right camping bed for your toddler plus the top picks, as recommended by  outdoorsy parents. **Quick Picks:** - **Best Overall: [Milliards Foam Travel Bed](https://amzn.to/4auP98y)** - **Runner Up: [BabyDelight Portable Cot with Sun Cover](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B081SJC9XB/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B081SJC9XB&linkId=dc6bc25a43e65d13b0254fd3e0f65d35)** - **Worth Investigating: [Disco-O-Bed Bunk](https://momgoescamping.com/disc-o-bed-camping-bunk-beds-review/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=disc-o-bed-camping-bunk-beds-review)** ## Does Your Toddler Really Need a Camping Bed? Most toddlers are squirmy creatures. They *will* roll around the tent at night.  This is problematic for two reasons.  First, your toddler will likely kick you in the head (not fun!).  Secondly, if your toddler rolls off the sleeping pad, the ground will literally suck the heat out of their body. A portable sleeping beds help keep toddlers in place in the tent so they stay warm and no one gets injured.   So, while not completely necessary, a toddler bed can make sleeping in a tent a lot easier. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/rolling-off-sleeping-mat-2.jpg "rolling off sleeping mat 2 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/rolling-off-sleeping-mat-2.jpg)*Your toddler will roll off the mattress*[![babies sleeping in a tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/organizing-babies-camping.jpg "organizing babies camping - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/organizing-babies-camping.jpg)*Baby camping beds are also a good way to keep your kids organized in the tent* ### Alternatives to Toddler Camping Beds If you don’t want to bring a camping bed for your toddler, there are some other solutions for keeping your child contained in the tent. - **Barricades:** Bring some big pillows to put on each side of your toddler’s sleeping mat. Sometimes I just put my massive backpack next to my kid to keep her in place. I still do this even with my 10 year old! - **Have your toddler sleep in the middle:** If your toddler sleeps between you and your partner (or between siblings), she will at least stay on the pad and thus be warm.  This won’t prevent kicks in the head though. - **Double wide sleeping pads:** Your toddler is less likely to roll off of a wide pad. This won’t prevent them from kicking or flailing around at night though. - **Attach the sleeping bag to the pad:** Some restless campers use Velcro to attach their sleeping bags to the pads. Use gear glue to get the Velcro on the mat and sew the matching Velcro to the sleeping bag.  I’ve also heard of people tying the sleeping bag to the pad. - **Choose a non-skid sleeping pad:** If your toddler generally stays put but just slides down the sleeping mat, then try switching to one which has a textured non-skid surface such as the [Nemo Switchback](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07JZZ5PFB/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07JZZ5PFB&linkId=39003e6c83acccca7b6f7f2718812d6d) or the cheaper [Redcamp version](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MNR63QC/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07MNR63QC&linkId=b7dfc577e14d0354b9592e80ff2d207e). [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/rolling-off-sleeping-mat.jpg "rolling off sleeping mat - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/rolling-off-sleeping-mat.jpg)Put a body pillow next to the sleeping pad It wont stop you from getting a few kicks to the face but will keep your toddler off the cold ground 🙂 Image from [Morrison Sleeping Bags](https://morrisonoutdoors.com?aff=3) ### Warning: Not All Camping Beds Are Insulated Your child needs to be insulated from the ground or it will literally suck the heat from their body. Unfortunately, not all camping beds provide much or any insulation.  For example, air mattresses and travel cots do NOT provide insulation. To keep your child warm, **you’ll need to** **put a sleeping pad *inside* or *under* the camping bed**. ## Types of Toddler Camping Beds There are four main options for toddler camping beds: air mattresses, cots, foam mattresses and portable playpens. None is really better than the others. It’s a matter of convenience and what your toddler prefers to sleep on. ### Air Mattresses Air mattresses are comfortable and easy to pack when deflated.  However, they have a lot of downsides. For camping with toddlers, the major downside is that air mattresses are loud.  As one parent [said](https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/44948/), air an mattresses “provides a lot of opportunity for noisy fun when you’re trying to get the little one to shut his eyes and fall asleep.” Depending on the quality of the air mattress, your toddler might fall off easily, though there are some air mattresses which have bumper rails integrated into the design. Further, air mattresses are heat sinks: they don’t provide insulation from the ground.  If you are camping in cold weather you’ll need to put a sleeping pad on top of the air mattress. Make sure you bring a patch kit too in case of punctures. **Pros** - Comfortable - Some have bumpers **Cons** - Heat sinks – don’t insulate from ground - Noisy - Take time to inflate - Pump may require electricity - Prone to puncturing --- ### Cots A lot of daycares use cots for naptime, so your toddler might already be familiar with sleeping on a cot. They tend to sag a bit in the middle which keeps your child from rolling off the cot.  Cots are also great because they don’t have to be blown up, are very easy to clean, and won’t puncture.  Most are lightweight and easy to pack too.  I like the versatility of cots, especially if you need a portable bed which works for hotels and sleepovers at grandma’s house too. You even get storage underneath them. The main downside of a portable cot for camping is that they don’t insulate you from below.  In summer, this helps you stay cool.  But, in colder weather, you’ll need to put a sleeping pad on the cot.   This might cause your toddler to roll off the cot more easily.  Also be warned that some cot legs can tear holes in your tent floor. **Pros** - Easy to clean - Lightweight - Durable - Can store things under the cot - Keep you cool in summer **Cons** - Lose heat from below - May rip holes in tent floor --- ### Foam Mattresses Portable foam beds are convenient to use because they are comfortable, fold up easily, and you don’t have to worry about punctures. They also provide some insulation against the cold ground.  The one reviewed here has bumper rails integrated into the design, so your toddler won’t roll off. The downside of foam toddler beds is that they get dirty easily. If an accident occurs, it can take a while before the foam dries.  Also be warned that foam beds don’t insulate as well: when the foam gets compressed, the ground will suck heat from your child. Closed-cell foam pads are better because they don’t compress as much. **Pros** - Comfortable - Quick setup - Can’t be punctured - Some have bumpers **Cons** - Very bulky - Get dirty easily - Limited insulation --- ### Portable Playpens If your toddler is still young, you can use a portable play pen as a camping bed.  This only works if you have a very large tent though.  Make sure you put some cardboard or foam pieces under the legs so the playpen doesn’t tear holes in the floor. The main benefit of using a playpen as your toddler’s camping bed is that you can take it outside during the day.  Your toddler can safely play or nap there while you do camp tasks.  My daughter got too tall for her playpen at 2 years old; she was also able to climb out of it by then. So playpens only work as camping beds for young toddlers. **Pros** - Doubles as playpen during day - Can put mosquito net over it **Cons** - Very bulky - Can tear holes in tent floor - Must have large tent - Only suitable for young toddlers --- ## Best Toddler Camping Beds ### 1. [Baby Delight Go with Me Bungalow Portable Cot](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B081SJC9XB/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B081SJC9XB&linkId=dc6bc25a43e65d13b0254fd3e0f65d35) ![baby delight portable camping bed for toddlers](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/baby-delight-portable-camping-bed-for-toddlers.jpg "baby delight portable camping bed for toddlers - Mom Goes Camping") I really like this brand and their chairs are on my list of best baby camping chairs. It’s a bit pricier but the canopy means you’ll get more use out of it, like being able to take it to the beach. #### Features - Side rails on 3 1/2 sides - Removably canopy with UV protection - Open size: 50″ long x 26″ wide and 16.5″ tall (with rails); Folded size 6x9x32″ - Weighs approx. 12lbs - Feet won’t tear tent floor - Storage pocket - Rated for 75lbs but holds adult weight too - [Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B081SJC9XB/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B081SJC9XB&linkId=dc6bc25a43e65d13b0254fd3e0f65d35) --- ### 2. [Milliard Portable Foam Bed for Toddlers](https://amzn.to/4auP98y) ![Milliard foam toddler camping bed with rails](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/milliard-toddler-camping-bed-foam.jpg "milliard toddler camping bed foam - Mom Goes Camping") Unlike many other foam toddler mattreses, this one has bumper rails. It folds closed to create a box where you can store things inside.  There is a separate mattress inside the bed which you can remove (such as if you want to use a camping pad instead).  The only issue is that the bed is VERY bulky to pack. #### Features - Bumper rails - Waterproof washable cover - Inner mattress 20×48″ - Open size 54x25x7″; folded: 27×14.5×14″ - Can store bedding and toys inside when folded - [Buy Here](https://amzn.to/4auP98y) --- ### 3. [Regalo Toddler Cot My Pals](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B087ZL1PYS/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B087ZL1PYS&linkId=99d9ca8567e1cd7e585f41266447f7ff) ![regalo toddler cot for camping my pals](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/regalo-toddler-cot-for-camping-my-pals.jpg "regalo toddler cot for camping my pals - Mom Goes Camping")This is a cheap but durable toddler camping cot. It comes in a few different designs with cute animals on the fitted sheet and a removable pillow.  The bed is very sturdy and two kids can sit on it.  I like how easily it folds up and is compact for packing. #### Features - Up to 75lbs - Carry bag included - Open size 48×24.5×9″; folded: 24x9x8″ - Fitted sheet with removable pillow - Different colors with cute animals - [Buy Here ](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B087ZL1PYS/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B087ZL1PYS&linkId=99d9ca8567e1cd7e585f41266447f7ff) --- ### 4. [Hiccapop Toddler Air Mattress](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NDNB3R5/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07NDNB3R5&linkId=c2b92c34c56a3fede3f9b6b9226f0614) ![hiccapop toddler camping bed](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/hiccapop-toddler-camping-bed.jpg "hiccapop toddler camping bed - Mom Goes Camping") I like this toddler bed for camping because, unlike most air mattresses, it has two parts: an inflatable frame and inner mattress.  You can remove the inner mattress (put a campign pad in its place) and just use the frame as a bumper to keep your child in place.  The bumpers are tall even with the mattress inside so your child will stay put.  Compared to other camping air mattresses, it is fairly quiet but will still make some noise.  It holds air well andn doesn’t need to be reinflated for days. #### Features - Holds up to 300lbs - Lifetime guarantee - Open size 62x39x12″; inner mattress 48″ long - Deflates down to size of a rolled sleeping bag - Comes with electric pump and carry bag - [Buy Here ](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NDNB3R5/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07NDNB3R5&linkId=c2b92c34c56a3fede3f9b6b9226f0614) --- ### 5. [Shrunks Wally Inflatable Bed Rails](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00J0YTT72/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00J0YTT72&linkId=b2e03d288875ae5d474def66e69ee142) ![shrunks inflatable bed rails for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/shrunks-inflatable-bed-rails-for-camping.jpg "shrunks inflatable bed rails for camping - Mom Goes Camping") If you only need a way to keep your toddler from moving all around the tent, these inflatable bumpers are a cheap and easy solution.  They come with a foot pump, so you don’t need an electric hookup to inflate them. There are grips on the bottoms to keep them from sliding around the tent. #### Features - Set of two - Grids on bottom to keep in place - Inflated size: 48×7″ - Includes foot pump and storage bag - Comes with electric pump and carry bag - [Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00J0YTT72/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00J0YTT72&linkId=b2e03d288875ae5d474def66e69ee142) --- ### 6. [REI Air Rail Sleeping Pad](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dair%2Brail%2Bsleeping%2Bpad%26pagesize%3D90) ![REI Air Rail Camping Sleeping Pad](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/rei-air-rail-sleeping-pad-for-toddlers.jpg "rei air rail sleeping pad for toddlers - Mom Goes Camping") This pad obviously isn’t a toddler camping bed. However, it is good option because of the side rails which will keep your toddler in place (so long as he isn’t too squirmy).  It has an R-value of 3.3, so is good for cold-weather camping.  The pad is 1.5″ thick, self-inflating, and packs down to 6×11″.  The women’s version is slightly shorter than the men’s.  Your child (and you) will be able to use this pad for years. #### Features - Self-inflating pad with side rails - R-value 3.3 - 72x25x1.5 inches - 1.9lbs - Comes with electric pump and carry bag - [Buy Here ](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dair%2Brail%2Bsleeping%2Bpad%26pagesize%3D90) --- ### 7. [Baby Delight Nod Portable Playpen](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B082J86RT2/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B082J86RT2&linkId=4777895007b3b3d131234b2095f09677) ![baby delight portable playpen](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/baby-delight-portable-playpen.jpg "baby delight portable playpen - Mom Goes Camping") This playpen also made my list of [best baby camping beds](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B082J86RT2/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B082J86RT2&linkId=4777895007b3b3d131234b2095f09677).  It’s slightly longer than other portable playpens, so is good for toddlers up to around 3 years old too.  It’s even sturdy enough to withstand your toddler shaking it. What I really love about it is the zipper opening at the bottom so your toddler can get in/out by herself (which saves your back!).  The playpen comes with a removable mattress. It’s fairly thin though so you’ll need to use a camping pad inside in colder weather. #### Features - Comes with removable waterproof mattress - Open size: 44x23x26″ - Weighs 17lbs - Suitable for kids up to 50lbs - Zippered entrance at bottom - [Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B082J86RT2/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B082J86RT2&linkId=4777895007b3b3d131234b2095f09677) --- **Need more advice? Read:** - **[Complete Guide to Tent Camping with Toddlers](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-with-toddler/)** - **[How to Get Your Toddler to Sleep when Tent Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/toddler-camping-sleep/)** - [**Toddler Camping Essentials (Printable Checklist)**](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-essentials-toddlers/) - [**Best Toddler Sleeping Bags for Camping**](https://momgoescamping.com/best-toddler-sleeping-bags-camping/) --- ###### Resources: <https://www.rokslide.com/forums/threads/what-sleep-systems-do-you-use-for-children-under-5.77138/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/camping/comments/3qd9u0/will_a_memory_foam_topper_increase_r_value_at_all/> <https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/14529/> Image credits: “[babies camping](https://www.flickr.com/photos/20733221@N07/2036086933/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [alaska meads](https://www.flickr.com/people/20733221@N07/), “[IMG\_5013](https://www.flickr.com/photos/abbybatchelder/3692120883/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [abbybatchelder](https://www.flickr.com/people/abbybatchelder/), ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** toddler --- ### [Best Backpacking Meals: Top Brands Reviewed](https://momgoescamping.com/best-backpacking-meals/) **Published:** September 9, 2019 **Author:** Diane **Content:** It’s no secret that I don’t like most freeze-dried backpacking meals.  Virtually all of those freeze-dried meals for backpacking are lacking nutrients, have small portion sizes, and are very overpriced. However, that doesn’t mean that those pouches of backpacking food are all bad.  Even if you take the DIY approach to backpacking meals, it’s still nice to bring along a pouch or two for convenience sake. I’ve compiled a list of the best backpacking food brands based on factors like ingredients, protein content, calories per pouch, calorie density, and (of course) taste.  If you want to know more about how these meals were chosen, scroll down.  Otherwise, here’s the best meals for backpacking. ## Quick Picks: - **Best Overall: AlpineAire.** Their meals are affordable, have a good caloric density, lots of protein, and aren’t overloaded with sodium.  It’s a good middle ground of everything you could want. I just wish they have more flavors to choose from. Aailable at [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/s?bbn=14329811&rh=n%3A3375251%2Cn%3A%213375301%2Cn%3A706814011%2Cn%3A3400371%2Cn%3A2204505011%2Cn%3A14329811%2Cp_89%3AAlpine&dc&fst=as%3Aoff&qid=1567583146&rnid=2528832011&ref=sr_in_-2_p_89_0&_encoding=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=1f9eb6bf971882a3092dac658dc4024d&camp=1789&creative=9325)![](//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&l=ur2&o=1), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fb%2Falpineaire-foods). - **Best Tasting: Peak Refuel.** These backpacking meals taste delicious without having to add too many artificial ingredients. They also happen to be loaded with protein – about 40g per pouch – and have a high calorie density of around 130/oz. Available [here](https://www.amazon.com/s?i=outdoor-recreation&bbn=14329811&rh=n%3A3375251%2Cn%3A3375301%2Cn%3A706814011%2Cn%3A3400371%2Cn%3A2204505011%2Cn%3A14329811%2Cp_89%3APeak+Refuel&dc&fst=as%3Aoff&qid=1567583535&rnid=2528832011&ref=sr_nr_p_89_7&_encoding=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=06c0592c207a87b6b21e614cbc4112b0&camp=1789&creative=9325). - **Easiest Solution: RightOnTrek.** They have a cool free meal planner tool that allows you to order exactly how many calories you need for your trip. The brand uses eco-friendly packaging and the meals are healthy and affordable. Available [here](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=bbc1a241-6b21-488b-a0f7-ef6725d20066&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Frightontrek.com%2F). --- **Want to make your own cheap, healthy backpacking meals? [Get my dehydrator recipes book](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/).** It has over 50 healthy ultralight recipes plus tons of info on meal planning for backpacking trips. [![backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/backpacking-dehydrator-recipes-ebook.jpg "backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/) [**Learn more here**](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/) --- ## Comparison of Top Backpacking Meal Brands \***Based on averages of three popular dinners** \[table id=10 /\] **Tip:** When you buy 8 or more backpacking meals on REI, you’ll get 10% off. --- ## Backpacking Meals Reviewed Here’s where I’ve broken down the nitty gritty about each top backpacking meal brand, including the typical amount of calories per pouch, calorie density, nutrition, taste, and cost. ### Mountain House Backpacking Meals ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/mountain-house-chili-mac-with-beef-nutritioin-1.jpg "mountain house chili mac with beef nutritioin - Mom Goes Camping") **Verdict:** Mountain House meals taste great and have a good amount of calories per weight, but there is a huge amount of sodium.  Not for people who want to eat healthy on the trail! #### Quick Overview: - **Calories per pouch:** 600 - **Weight:** 125 calories/oz - **Sodium:** 1640mg - **Protein:** 30g - **Price**: $ - **Where to buy: [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/s?bbn=14329811&rh=n%3A3375251%2Cn%3A%213375301%2Cn%3A706814011%2Cn%3A3400371%2Cn%3A2204505011%2Cn%3A14329811%2Cp_89%3AMountain+House&dc&fst=as%3Aoff&qid=1567583842&rnid=2528832011&ref=lp_14329811_nr_p_89_0&_encoding=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=c0f260a79e930fb190ea1b338d39b773&camp=1789&creative=9325)![](//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&l=ur2&o=1), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fb%2Fmountain-house%2Fc%2Ffood%3Fir%3Dcategory%253Afood%26pagesize%3D90%26r%3Dc%253Bb)** #### Review: Mountain House is one of the better-tasting brands of backpacking food.  This probably has to do with the fact that they use real meat in their meals instead of just “meat flavor” like you’ll see in other brands.    There is also a lot of cheese in their meals, which adds a lot of flavor. All of this meat and cheese makes Mountain House meals full of protein.  That will help your muscles recover quickly on the trail. When it comes to other aspects of nutrition though, Mountain House is far from ideal.  Their meals have huge amounts of sodium in them.  Their Beef Stroganoff with Noodles, for example, has 2000mg of sodium per 650 calories. At least their nutrition facts are easy to understand.  A pouch usually has 2 servings that add up to around 600 calories.  Expect to each an entire pouch for dinner.  The caloric density breaks down to around 125 calories/oz, which is in line with what you should be aiming for backpacking. **Get Mountain House meals here on [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/s?bbn=14329811&rh=n%3A3375251%2Cn%3A%213375301%2Cn%3A706814011%2Cn%3A3400371%2Cn%3A2204505011%2Cn%3A14329811%2Cp_89%3AMountain+House&dc&fst=as%3Aoff&qid=1567583842&rnid=2528832011&ref=lp_14329811_nr_p_89_0&_encoding=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=c0f260a79e930fb190ea1b338d39b773&camp=1789&creative=9325)![](//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&l=ur2&o=1) or [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fb%2Fmountain-house%2Fc%2Ffood%3Fir%3Dcategory%253Afood%26pagesize%3D90%26r%3Dc%253Bb)** --- ### Backpacker’s Pantry Meals ![backpackers pantry Fettucini alfredo with chicken](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/backpackers-pantry-Fettucini-alfredo-with-chicken.jpg "backpackers pantry Fettucini alfredo with chicken - Mom Goes Camping") **Verdict:** If you are bored with typical backpacking meals and don’t mind the huge amounts of sodium, there are some interesting gourmet dinners to choose from. #### Quick Overview: - **Calories per pouch:** 640 - **Weight:** 120 calories/oz - **Sodium:** 2030mg - **Protein:** 38g - **Price**: $ - **Where to buy: [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=backpackers+pantry&rh=n%3A14329811&ref=nb_sb_noss&_encoding=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=60257480ff1ff6223748ea8d3fcee66c&camp=1789&creative=9325)![](//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&l=ur2&o=1) or [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fb%2Fbackpackers-pantry%2Fc%2Ffood%3Fir%3Dcategory%253Afood%26pagesize%3D90%26r%3Dc%253Bb)** #### Review: After Mountain House, Backpacker’s Pantry is the most popular brand of freeze-dried backpacking food.  What makes them stand out is that they have more exciting flavors of meals such as: Pesto Pasta with Salmon, Chana Masala, and Cuban Coconut Beans and Rice. Like Mountain House, they do use real meat in their meals.  I just wish they’d put in more veggies too instead of loading them with cheese and butter sauces. Most of their backpacking dinners have loads of protein in them. For example, the Fettucini Alfredo with Chicken has 44g of protein per pouch (610 calories total).  The Shepherds Potato Stew with Beef has 32g of protein per pouch (560 calories). As with most backpacking dinners, these meals are loaded with sodium.  Expect around 2000mg of sodium – which is already nearing the USDA upper limit for sodium. All of this meat and cheese makes Mountain House meals full of protein.  That will help your muscles recover quickly on the trail. The one thing that I really like about Backpacker’s Pantry is that they have some more interesting meals.  It isn’t just stews and pasta.  So, if you are going on a long backpacking trip and need some variety, you’ll want to choose some of these. **Get Backpacker’s Pantry meals here on [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=backpackers+pantry&rh=n%3A14329811&ref=nb_sb_noss&_encoding=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=60257480ff1ff6223748ea8d3fcee66c&camp=1789&creative=9325)![](//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&l=ur2&o=1) or [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fb%2Fbackpackers-pantry%2Fc%2Ffood%3Fir%3Dcategory%253Afood%26pagesize%3D90%26r%3Dc%253Bb)** --- ### AlpineAire Backpacking Meals ![alpineaire rice beans beef bowl](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/alpineaire-rice-beans-beef-bowl.jpg "alpineaire rice beans beef bowl - Mom Goes Camping") **The Verdict:** AlpineAire meals use ingredients that you can recognize, aren’t loaded with tons of sodium, taste good, have a decent caloric density, and are fairly priced.  This is why they got my “Best Overall” pick. #### Quick Overview: - **Calories per pouch:** 600 - **Weight:** 115 calories/oz - **Sodium:** 1,200mg - **Protein:** 35g - **Price**: $ - **Where to buy: [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/s?bbn=14329811&rh=n%3A3375251%2Cn%3A%213375301%2Cn%3A706814011%2Cn%3A3400371%2Cn%3A2204505011%2Cn%3A14329811%2Cp_89%3AAlpine&dc&fst=as%3Aoff&qid=1567583146&rnid=2528832011&ref=sr_in_-2_p_89_0&_encoding=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=1f9eb6bf971882a3092dac658dc4024d&camp=1789&creative=9325)![](//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&l=ur2&o=1) or [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fb%2Falpineaire-foods%2Fc%2Ffood%3Fir%3Dcategory%253Afood%26pagesize%3D90%26r%3Dc%253Bb)** #### Review: AlpineAire has been around since 1979 but only got popular once Katadyn bought them in 2012.  They don’t have as many options as other backpacking meal brands, but the options they do have are great. It seems that AlpineAire is striving to make healthier alternatives to typical backpacking meals.  They use “all natural” ingredients including real freeze-dried meat and veggies (hooray for micronutrients!). A big standout is that AlpineAire has kept their sodium levels under control.  Some meals (like the Spicy Sausage Pasta) only has 880mg per pouch.  Other meals do have much more sodium though (like the Black Bart Chili with Beef and Beans which has 1500mg of sodium).  If sodium matters to you, pay attention to the nutrition labels before choosing a meal! The protein levels of the backpacking dinners is decent.  They range from around 24g to 50g per pouch.  A pouch usually has around 600 calories, which puts the caloric density around 110 to 120 calories/oz.  Not great, but far from bad too. The only real issue with AlpineAire is that they don’t offer much variety.  Most of their meals are some variation of the standard, like chili, rice and beans, or cheesy pasta.  If you are on a long backpacking trip, I’d get some meals from another brand to keep things exciting. **Get AlpineAire meals here [on Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/s?bbn=14329811&rh=n%3A3375251%2Cn%3A%213375301%2Cn%3A706814011%2Cn%3A3400371%2Cn%3A2204505011%2Cn%3A14329811%2Cp_89%3AAlpine&dc&fst=as%3Aoff&qid=1567583146&rnid=2528832011&ref=sr_in_-2_p_89_0&_encoding=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=1f9eb6bf971882a3092dac658dc4024d&camp=1789&creative=9325)![](//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&l=ur2&o=1) or [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fb%2Falpineaire-foods%2Fc%2Ffood%3Fir%3Dcategory%253Afood%26pagesize%3D90%26r%3Dc%253Bb)** --- ### RightOnTrek Backpacking Meals [![RightOnTrek backpacking meals](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/day-1-backpacking-food-right-on-trek-min.jpg "day 1 backpacking food right on trek-min - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/day-1-backpacking-food-right-on-trek-min.jpg) **The Verdict:** This small brand has healthy, freshly-cooked gourmet backpacking meals in eco-friendly packaging. It’s a bit more work to make the meals but it is worth it.  The meal planning tool also makes trip planning so easy! #### Quick Overview: - **Calories per pouch:** 550 - **Weight:** 110 calories/oz - **Sodium:** 986mg - **Protein:** 26g - **Price**: $ - **Where to buy: [RightOnTrek website](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=bbc1a241-6b21-488b-a0f7-ef6725d20066&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Frightontrek.com%2F)** #### Review RightOnTrek is a bit different than other backpacking meal brands.  For starters, they have a free meal planning tool.  You set the number of days, calories, and food preferences.  Then it lists everything you need for the trip and lets you buy it all with a few clicks.  If you don’t like an item in the plan, no problem – just swap it for another item.  The meal planner calculates calories and weight for you, so it really couldn’t be easier to plan food for your trip. All meals are made fresh each season by a real chef (not a factory). Then they are dehydrated and packaged. RightOnTrek is all about being eco-friendly and use biodegradable packaging for their meals.  The meals taste delicious, though many do require a multi-step cooking process.  This means you get a really good texture to the food instead of a gross mush.  IMO, it’s worth the extra effort to have food which actually has texture. You can read [my full review of RightOnTrek](https://momgoescamping.com/rightontrek-review/) here. Or [visit their website to start shopping here](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=bbc1a241-6b21-488b-a0f7-ef6725d20066&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Frightontrek.com%2F). --- ### Wild Zora Backpacking Meals ![wild zora mountain beef stew copy](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/wild-zora-mountain-beef-stew-copy.jpg "wild zora mountain beef stew copy - Mom Goes Camping") **The Verdict:** Very healthy and lots of protein, but expensive and lacking in calories. Be prepared to eat more than one package of Wild Zora meals (and pay the high cost!) or bring along your own grains to eat with their meals. #### Quick Overview: - **Calories per pouch:** 395 - **Weight:** 130 calories/oz - **Sodium:** 640mg - **Protein:** 36g - **Price**: $$$ - **Where to buy: [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3wHlafP), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fb%2Fwild-zora%2Fc%2Ffood%3Fir%3Dcategory%253Afood%26pagesize%3D90%26r%3Dc%253Bb)** #### Review: WildZora makes paleo freeze-dried meals.  That means they meals contain no grains, no dairy, and no artificial ingredients.  They are definitely a healthy option but, without grains, a bit lacking in calories. The ingredients list on Wild Zora backpacking meals is refreshingly simple.  You’ll see only ingredients like “grass-fed beef” and freeze-dried vegetables.  The quality of the food seems pretty high, and the flavor reflects this. Since the meals are meat-based, they are loaded with protein.  There is an okay amount of fat and low levels of sodium. The main issue with Wild Zora meals backpacking is that they have very few calories.  A typical backpacker will need around 3,500 calories per day.  Of those calories, about 600-700 will be for dinner.  That means you’d need to eat two Wild Zora meals to get enough calories. Considering that Wild Zora meals cost about $14 per pouch, that expense is going to add up quickly! If you aren’t on the paleo or AIP diet, you could bring your own instant rice, pasta, tortillas, or other carbs to eat with the meal.  Or, if you don’t eat grains, get some freeze dried sweet potato hash to go with meals.  I’d get sick of eating sweet potatoes every day though! **Get Wild Zora meals here on [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3wHlafP) or [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fb%2Fwild-zora%2Fc%2Ffood%3Fir%3Dcategory%253Afood%26pagesize%3D90%26r%3Dc%253Bb)** --- ### Next Mile Meals ![next mile meals beef tacos nutrition](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/next-mile-meals-beef-tacos-nutrition.jpg "next mile meals beef tacos nutrition - Mom Goes Camping") **The Verdict:** At this price, I’d recommend making your own backpacking meals from bulk freeze-dried ingredients. #### Quick Overview: - **Calories per pouch:** 546 - **Weight:** 146 calories/oz - **Sodium:** 1,260mg - **Protein:** 54g - **Price**: $$$$ - **Where to buy: [Amazon](https://amzn.to/2ZIdpnh)** #### Review: Next Mile Meals makes ketogenic, low-carb backpacking meals. Some of their most popular dinners are Beef Tacos, Chicken Coconut Curry, and Deli Beef.  They have variety packs you can buy, but the packs include breakfasts too. At first glance, Next Mile Meals seem like a backpacker’s dream.  The caloric density of meals is around 130 to 160 per ounce.  That will seriously cut back on weight!  But, at closer glance, the meals are far from ideal. For starters, there are currently only 6 entrees to choose from.  Most of these meals contain only meat with a bit of flavoring.  There aren’t any grains and very few veggies.  I know that’s the point of a ketogenic diet, but you’ll probably feel hungry on intense backpacking trips. Since the backpacking meals mostly contain meat, they seem very overpriced.  You can buy freeze dried meat for a fraction of the cost.  Just put the freeze-dried meat into a bag with some seasonings, and add some freeze-dried veggies if you want.  It’s cheaper and will have a lot less sodium than the Next Mile Meals. **[Get Next Mile Meals here](https://amzn.to/2ZIdpnh)** --- ### Good To-Go Backpacking Meals ![good to go mexican quinoa bowl](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/good-to-go-mexican-quinoa-bowl.jpg "good to go mexican quinoa bowl - Mom Goes Camping") **The Verdict:** The calorie density of these backpacking meals isn’t great.  But they make up for it by using quality ingredients and packing in lots of flavor.  Vegetarians will particularly love these backpacking meals. #### Quick Overview: - **Calories per pouch:** 710 - **Weight:** 107 calories/oz - **Sodium:** 1,020mg - **Protein:** 26g - **Price**: $$ - **Where to buy: [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Good+to-go&i=sporting&ref=nb_sb_noss_2&_encoding=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=cafa1eb7f177f97bc1e216f4447b6260&camp=1789&creative=9325)![](//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&l=ur2&o=1) or [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fb%2Fgood-to-go%2Fc%2Ffood%3Fir%3Dcategory%253Afood%26pagesize%3D90%26r%3Dc%253Bb)** #### Review: The backpacking meals by Good To-Go are the only ones reviewed here that are dehydrated (as opposed to freeze dried). To make the meals, you just pour boiling water into the pouch.  Close the pouch and wait 15 minutes.   You’ve got a meal! Good To-Go has tried to differentiate themselves from other brands by only using natural ingredients.  They even write on their ingredients list “Notice how many you can pronounce!”  There’s still a lot of sodium in their meals, but it isn’t nearly as bad as most backpacking meals. Right now, they only have 10 different meals to choose from.  Some of them are really exciting and gourmet, like the Pad Thai and Chicken Gumbo.  The price is slightly higher than the leading brands, but you can get meal packs for a better deal. **Get Good To-Go meals here on [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Good+to-go&i=sporting&ref=nb_sb_noss_2&_encoding=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=cafa1eb7f177f97bc1e216f4447b6260&camp=1789&creative=9325)![](//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&l=ur2&o=1) or [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fb%2Fgood-to-go%2Fc%2Ffood%3Fir%3Dcategory%253Afood%26pagesize%3D90%26r%3Dc%253Bb)** --- ### Peak Refuel Backpacking Meals ![peak fuel chicken teriyaki nutrition](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/peak-fuel-chicken-teriyaki-nutrition.jpg "peak fuel chicken teriyaki nutrition - Mom Goes Camping") **Verdict:** These are definitely tasty, nutritious meals that will fuel your body on long backpacking trips.  The meals are pricy, but not as much as other backpacking meals of similar quality. #### Quick Overview: ##### **\*Based on averages of 3 popular dinners** - **Calories per pouch:** 670 - **Weight:** 128 calories/oz - **Sodium:** 1,390 - **Protein:** 41g - **Price**: $$ - **Where to buy: [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/s?i=outdoor-recreation&bbn=14329811&rh=n%3A3375251%2Cn%3A3375301%2Cn%3A706814011%2Cn%3A3400371%2Cn%3A2204505011%2Cn%3A14329811%2Cp_89%3APeak+Refuel&dc&fst=as%3Aoff&qid=1567583535&rnid=2528832011&ref=sr_nr_p_89_7&_encoding=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=06c0592c207a87b6b21e614cbc4112b0&camp=1789&creative=9325)![](//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&l=ur2&o=1)** #### Review: Based in Utah, Peak Refuel stands out by making high-protein backpacking meals that require less water and time than other brands to hydrate. The first thing that stands out about Peak Refuel is the huge amounts of protein per pouch.  Most of the meals have around 40g of protein.  Their beef pasta even has 49 grams.  It’s recommended that you get at least 1g of protein per kilogram of bodyweight – a recommendation that a lot of backpackers fall short on. As for ingredients, not all of them are “natural” or even pronounceable.  However, there is a decent amount of real meat in the meals.  Almost all of their backpacking meals are loaded with buttery sauce or cheese, so they definitely taste great (it’s hard to go wrong with cheese!). Each pouch contains around 670 calories, which will definitely fill you up after a long day of hiking. The protein levels are also very high at around 41g per pouch.  The sodium is high, but not as bad as Mountain House meals. [**Get Peak Refuel meals here**](https://www.amazon.com/s?i=outdoor-recreation&bbn=14329811&rh=n%3A3375251%2Cn%3A3375301%2Cn%3A706814011%2Cn%3A3400371%2Cn%3A2204505011%2Cn%3A14329811%2Cp_89%3APeak+Refuel&dc&fst=as%3Aoff&qid=1567583535&rnid=2528832011&ref=sr_nr_p_89_7&_encoding=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=06c0592c207a87b6b21e614cbc4112b0&camp=1789&creative=9325) --- ## How I Chose the Best Backpacking Meals There are now dozens of different brands of backpacking meals.  In choosing the “best” ones, I looked at these factors: ### **1. Calorie Density** Backpacking meals should ideally have at least 120 calories per ounce.  That will allow you to carry 3,500 calories of food in 1.8lbs (822g). ### **2. Healthiness** I looked at the ingredients list for the most popular backpacking dinners.  Did the meals contain real meat? Any vegetables?  Did they use chemical flavor enhancers? I also paid particular attention to the levels of protein and sodium in the meals.  Backpacking is no time to skimp on protein – you want your muscles to recover!  As for sodium, backpackers aren’t exactly at risk of high blood pressure.  However, all that extra sodium in typical backpacking meals can cause your feet to swell. ### **3. Taste** There is a huge tradeoff between taste and healthiness.  The best-tasting backpacking meals are usually loaded with huge amounts of sodium, not to mention MSG and other chemical flavors. Obviously taste is a subjective thing.  I factored in the quality of ingredients as well as what backpackers said about the meals. ### **4. Cost/Value** Backpacking meals are not cheap.  You can expect to pay around $9 per pouch.  Some cost over $16 per pouch. Yes, you will probably be eating the entire pouch – even when it says “2 servings.” The value was based on the amount of calories you get per pouch, as well what the meal actually contains.  For example, is the meal just a bunch of pasta with a few scraps of meat thrown in? Or are you getting a nutritious meal with lots of quality ingredients in it. ## DIY Backpacking Meals? As I mentioned before, I rarely eat freeze-dried backpacking meals.  While they do make meal planning easier, they are overpriced and lack nutrients.  Plus, most of them are just glorified pasta and not worth paying $9+ per pouch for. Instead, I either [make my own backpacking meals from supermarket ingredients](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-supermarket-foods/) (click the link for meal ideas).  Or, I dehydrate backpacking meals. I can dehydrate awesome sauces for things like couscous or pasta.  Or I’ll even dehydrate entire meals.  Below you can see what some of my backpacking meals look like. ![backpacking meals and food](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/gallery-min.jpg "gallery-min - Mom Goes Camping") And here’s what the meals looked like packaged. ![dehydrated vegan backpacking meals](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/DSCF5029.jpg "dehydrated vegan backpacking meals - Mom Goes Camping") ### **Want the recipes? Get my eBook.**  The book has over 50 ultralight recipes plus lots of info on backpacking nutrition and meal planning. **You can [get the book for 50% off now](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmetasheck50off).** **Happy backpacking!** --- Image credit: “[Making freeze dried food for dinner at c](https://www.flickr.com/photos/dionhinchcliffe/43260151375/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [dionhinchcliffe](https://www.flickr.com/people/dionhinchcliffe/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Backpacking, Camping & Backpacking Food **Tags:** food, freeze dried, meals --- ### [How to Diaper when Camping or Backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/diapers-camping-backpacking/) **Published:** January 1, 2025 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I’ve diapered two children on outdoor adventures, including primitive camping and backpacking trips where there weren’t any trash facilities or running water available. Yes, it does take some extra planning and you’ll need to pack some “just in case” items for the inevitable blowouts or leaks. However, it is completely doable and mandatory if you want to get outdoors with your baby or toddlers. Here, I’ll go over everything you need to about diapers while camping or backpacking. The table of contents is below. Click to jump to that section. **Jump to:** - [Outdoor Diapering Kit List](#kit) - [How Many Diapers?](#howmany) - [Tips](#tips) - [Diaper Options](#options) 1. [Disposables](#disposables) 2. [Cloth Diapers](#cloth) (and how to wash) 3. [Cloth with Disposable Inserts](#inserts) - [Bears and Diapers](#bears) --- ## Quick answer: - **Short camping trips:** Disposables or cloth diapers are fine for any type of short camping trip, just bring enough to last your entire trip. Bring wet bags for dirty cloth diapers, and consider a plastic bin with lid for disposables if the campground doesn’t have trash facilities. - **Longer car camping trips:** Disposables are easier than cloth diapers. However, if there is a Laundromat nearby, cloth diapers are okay, too. - **Short backpacking trips:** Disposables are the best choice. Just pack out the dirty diapers. You can air dry pee diapers to make them lighter. - **Long backpacking trips:** Use compostable diapers and burn dirty ones every few days so you don’t have to carry so many. Alternatively, use cloth diapers with compostable inserts. You’ll need two dry bags plus a Scrubba bag or folding bucket for washing. Flats with unlined covers are easiest to wash and dry fastest. --- \[sta\_anchor id=”kit” /\] ## Diapering Kit for Outdoors Regardless of whether you are camping or backpacking with your baby, your diaper kit will need these items: - **Diapers**: Bring 6 to 12 diapers per day. You can use disposables, cloth diapers, or cloth diapers with disposable inserts. I’ll go over each option below. - **Changing mat:** I recommend you use a mat that has one waterproof side. This prevents wet, mud from seeping through and getting your baby wet. If it is cold, you’ll need a foam pad. Some people use their soft-structured carriers or backpacks as a changing mat. I do NOT recommend this as baby poo somehow has a way of getting everywhere. Good luck cleaning those buckles and straps! - **Wipes:** Consider compostable wipes if you want to dispose of them in a pit latrine or by burning them. You *cannot* bury compostable wipes! - **Trash baggie for packing out wipes:** A zip baggie works well for this. You can line it with a tinfoil pouch if you don’t want to see the poopy contents. - **Barrier cream:** I suggest applying barrier cream to your child’s bottom after EVERY CHANGE. It prevents rashes (important when outdoors with your baby in hot temperatures and using a carrier). Cream also makes it much easier to wipe off poo, so you’ll use fewer wipes. - **Soap and hand sanitizer:** Hopefully don’t need to explain. J - **Rope and clothespins:** Even if you won’t be washing diapers, bring this! Your baby may have a leak and you’ll need to make a laundry line for drying the clothes or sleeping bag. - **Trash bags and zip baggies:** Bring extra. You may need these to hold dirty clothing after a blowout. **You May Want:** - **[Scrubba](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F886211%2Fscrubba-wash-bag) or [folding bucket](https://momgoescamping.com/portable-camp-sinks/):** These are necessary for washing cloth diapers outdoors. Even if using disposables, these are useful since you can wash any items soiled by blowouts. - **Plastic bin with tight-fitting lid:** Good for disposables if camping somewhere without trash facilities or if the trash cans are far away. - **Wet bags for cloth diapers:** Ideally bring one bag for pee diapers and another bag for poo diapers. Zip baggies work well. Approximately 3 cloth flats will fit in one quart-sized/liter-sized zip baggie. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/diapering-while-camping-waterproof-pad.jpg "diapering while camping waterproof pad - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/diapering-while-camping-waterproof-pad.jpg)This cheap packable pad has a waterproof side so it good for changes on wet ground \[sta\_anchor id=”howmany” /\] ## How Many Diapers to Bring? When using disposables, you’ll need 6 to 12 diapers per day.  Disposables don’t weigh much, so always bring lots of extras. It’s harder to calculate how many cloth diapers to bring because you need to factor in how often you will do laundry *and* how long it will take the diapers to dry. If washing diapers every evening and the weather is warm enough for them to dry overnight, you may only need 8 cloth diapers and a few covers.  However, if it rains and the diapers can’t dry overnight, you’ll need at least 16 diapers. **Tip: If using cloth diapers, bring a few disposables as backups to have in case of rain.** \[sta\_anchor id=”tips” /\] ## Other Useful Diaper Tips for Camping and Backpacking - **Choose a baby sleeping bag with a two-way zipper.** This allows you to do changes without taking your baby out of the sleeping bag. See these [best baby sleeping bags for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/best-baby-sleeping-bags-camping/). - **Get a lamp with a red light setting:** It allows you to do diaper changes in the dark without blinding your child, making it easier to get them back to sleep. - **Test the diapers beforehand:** If using a new type of diaper for the trip, test them first! You don’t want to discover they don’t fit or your child is allergic to them while on the trip. **Also read: [How to Go Camping with a Baby](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-with-baby/)** [![baby in sleeping bag camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Lydia-in-babydeedee-sleeping-bag.jpg "Lydia in babydeedee sleeping bag - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Lydia-in-babydeedee-sleeping-bag.jpg)This sleeping bag unzips from the bottom for easier diaper changes \[sta\_anchor id=”options” /\] ## The Three Diapering Options for Camping and Backpacking \[sta\_anchor id=”disposables” /\] ### 1. Disposable Diapers Using disposable diapers is the easiest option for both camping and backpacking, especially if there are trash facilities at the campsite. If camping somewhere without trash, you will need to pack out the diapers. If using compostable diapers, it is okay to burn them. Some things to know. - **Consider compostable diapers. You can burn them instead of packing them out.** There aren’t too many options, though. [Dyper](https://amzn.to/4e7FzLJ) and  [Eco by Naty](https://amzn.to/3V8g6t6) are the only ones I know about. - **Never bury diapers.** Even the compostable diapers. Animals can dig them up! - **Don’t put diapers in pit latrines.** Check before putting compostable diapers in the pit latrines. It’s usually not allowed. - **If packing out diapers:** - **Scrape off poop and bury it in a cathole.** It is lighter and stinks less than packing out a completely poopy diaper. - **Lay out diapers to let them air dry.** This reduces weight so they are lighter to carry out. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/baby-camping-diapers.jpg "baby camping diapers - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/baby-camping-diapers.jpg)I prefer primitive camping and almost exclusively used cloth diapers at home But when my baby got older and her poops grosser I switched to campgrounds camping and used disposables so I wouldnt have to deal with packing out or burning disgusting diapers ### 2. Cloth Diapers I exclusively used cloth diapers for my older child. Honestly, they can be a major pain to deal with on camping and backpacking trips. You are probably better off with disposables or compostable disposables. **Cloth diapers only make sense when:** - You are adamant about never using disposables - Camping trips for up to 3 days and *will* *not* be washing - Car camping trips 3+ days when you *will* be washing - Backpacking trips 3+ days in hot, dry weather and you *will* be washing On shorter backpacking trips where you *aren’t* going to wash, cloth diapers don’t make much sense. They are bulky and very heavy when wet. You are better off using disposables. Likewise, cloth diapers don’t make sense when backpacking in wet or cold weather because the diapers will never dry. #### What type of cloth diapers to use camping and backpacking? On short trips where you *won’t* be washing the diapers, just use whatever you use at home. However, if washing, **flat diapers with an unlined-waterproof cover are best.** Flat diapers can be opened up, so they dry fastest. Prefolds are also okay in terms of drying time, but not as good as flats. Unlined covers can just be wiped out and dry instantly.   My kids used cheap flats plus [Thirsties Duo Wrap covers](https://amzn.to/4e2tEPs). The Thirsties have nice leg gussets so don’t leak, and also happen to be one of those cheapest diaper covers. Avoid fitted diapers because take ages to dry. Lined covers have to be washed if they get dirty and also take a long time to dry. If you use these, you’ll have to bring LOTS more diapers and covers. **Cold Weather Tip:** Put a [stay-dry fleece liner](https://amzn.to/3x4JXKM) on top of the flat diaper. It helps keep your baby dry so they feel warmer. ![cloth diapers drying on backpack while backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/cloth-diaper-drying-on-pack-while-backpacking.jpg "cloth diaper drying on pack while backpacking - Mom Goes Camping")These are lined covers so must be washed and dried Unlined are better #### How to Wash Cloth Diapers Camping I suggest bringing a cheap garbage bin with a good lid. Put poopy diapers in here. Keep pee diapers in a wet bag or separate bin. When it is time to wash the diapers, rinse the poopy diapers a few times, dumping the poo water into the campground toilet.  If primitive camping, you’ll need to dump poo water in a hole at least 200 feet from any water sources. Then you can wash the diapers in the campground’s laundromat, or even a DIY portable washing machine made from a bucket and “laundry plunger.” #### How to Wash Cloth Diapers Backpacking Pee diapers can easily be washed by dunking them into a water source a few times and wringing them out. However, washing poo diapers in the backcountry is a lot of work, and definitely gross.  I highly recommend getting a [Scrubba](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F886211%2Fscrubba-wash-bag) to make your life easier. There are also [cheaper alternatives on Amazon](https://amzn.to/3VckE1I), and [lightweight collapsible basins](https://momgoescamping.com/portable-camp-sinks/) that will are great for washing diapers. ##### Washing Inner Diapers: 1. Always scrape off as much poo as possible. Use a rock or a stick to get it off during the change. The poo gets buried in a cathole. 2. Wear gloves. Seriously. You will end up touching poo water. You don’t want to get diarrhea while backpacking with your baby! 3. Put the poo diapers in the basin or Scrubba. 4. Add water. It doesn’t have to be filtered or particularly clean. Agitate the water with your gloved hands. Dump the water. 5. Add more water and a drop or two of biodegradable soap (not more!). This water doesn’t have to be sterile but ideally isn’t mucky. Agitate very well. Dump the water. 6. Add yet more water, ideally clear water, and agitate again. 7. Carefully remove gloves. 8. Hang gloves and diapers to dry. ##### Washing Covers: Unlined covers can just be wiped down if they get poo on them. If there is a full blowout and wipes won’t cut it, you can use a Ziploc bag for rinsing covers.  First wipe out as much as you can. Then put the cover in a quart-sized bag with some water. Swish it around in the bag and dump. Repeat if necessary. **Important:** Poo water must be dumped in a hole at least 6 inches deep and 200 feet from any water sources! #### Drying Diapers in the Backcountry Drying cloth diapers when backpacking can be harder than you might realize.  Not only will rain completely screw up your laundry plans, but nighttime dew can cause almost-dry diapers to get more wet!  One backpacker even put his baby’s almost-dry diapers in his sleeping bag at night to dry because of this. You will absolutely want to have a clothesline and clothespins (though, as you can see from the picture below, it’s possible to improvise). If you are backpacking in wet climates, I suggest you reconsider whether cloth diapers are the best solution. [![drying cloth diapers when backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/drying-cloth-diapers-when-backpacking.jpg "drying cloth diapers when backpacking - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/drying-cloth-diapers-when-backpacking.jpg) \[sta\_anchor id=”inserts” /\] ### 3. Cloth Diapers + Disposable Inserts This hybrid solution is great on longer camping or backpacking trips where you have to wash cloth diapers but don’t have access to a laundry machine.  The insert catches most poo, so you don’t have to scrape poo off of the diapers nor worry about cleaning nasty diapers by hand. You simply line the inner diaper with a disposable insert.  When doing a change, you throw the insert away or put it in a baggie for later disposal.   Yes, disposable inserts aren’t great for the environment, but they are better than disposable diapers. The only real downside is that some inserts are pricier than disposable diapers. **Use *Compostable* Inserts when Backpacking or Primitive Camping** You *cannot* bury compostable diaper inserts.  However, it is completely okay to burn them (so long as their isn’t a burn ban in place).  Just keep the inserts in a sealable baggie until you can make a fire. [Bumpkins](https://amzn.to/3RdIaKj) makes some cheap ones, but I recommend using two as they are pretty thin. \[sta\_anchor id=”bears” /\] ## Bears and Diapers Yes, dirty diapers can attract bears while camping and backpacking.  Likewise, scented diapers can attract animals.  Thus, you must treat dirty or scented diapers as any other “smellable” and put it in a bear-proof container, or hang it in a bear bag.  Note that some parks don’t allow bear bags. In this case, you’ll need a separate bear container just for dirty diapers, since you obviously don’t want them with your food. Also make sure you avoid using any scented wipes and barrier creams. This applies regardless of whether you are in bear country or not, since smells will attract insects to your baby. You don’t want that, do you? **Also read: [Bear Safety in the Great Outdoors](https://momgoescamping.com/bear-safety/)** ## Elimination Communication Instead of Diapers On one blog, one mom recommended using “elimination communication” while backpacking. Apparently, she learned her baby’s poo cues, and would remove the diaper so the baby could poo over a hole. Seriously? I’m also not sure how you are supposed to notice if your baby is about to poo if they are in a backpack carrier, and likely reacting differently to the new surroundings anyway. And, if you do, are you supposed to quickly dig a hole and hold them over it until they finish? If you are able to do that with your baby, good for you. However, it seems like another unrealistic standard to expect from parents. --- ###### Image credits: [Backpacking with cloth diapers](https://www.flickr.com/photos/grggrssmr/7546446340/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [grggrssmr](https://www.flickr.com/people/grggrssmr/), “[Rowan and I](https://www.flickr.com/photos/grggrssmr/7546459298/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [grggrssmr](https://www.flickr.com/people/grggrssmr/) “[IMG\_1039](https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnmichaelmayer/9355534630/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [jmayer1129](https://www.flickr.com/people/johnmichaelmayer/) ###### Resources <https://www.nps.gov/thingstodo/gumo_human_waste_wilderness.htm>, <https://www.nps.gov/articles/lnt.htm>, <https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0048969722024329>, <https://www.sierraclub.org/sierra/ask-mr-green/there-biodegradable-disposable-diaper>, <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/346641495_Disposable_Diapers_Impact_of_Disposal_Methods_on_Public_Health_and_the_Environment>, <https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2667010022001457> ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids --- ### [Best High-Calorie Breakfast Cereals for Backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/best-high-calorie-cereal-backpacking/) **Published:** July 5, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I made a list of the best breakfast cereals for backpacking.  All of them are high-calorie and also packable so they won’t get crushed in your pack.   Or at least they will still be edible when crushed. 🙂 Out of them all, these are the all-around best cereals for backpacking because they are very calorie-dense and also have loads of protein.  That means you won’t have a sugar-crash midday! - Cascadian Farms Organic Farm Stand Harvest Granola - Kashi Go Peanut Butter Crunch - Kashi Go Chocolate Crunch - Nature Valley Protein Oats n’ Honey Granola - Nature Valley Protein Oats n’ Dark Chocolate Granola - Nature Valley Flax Plus Granola - Post Great Grains Banana Nut Crunch - Quaker Apple Cranberry and Almond Natural Granola It’s also really easy to make your own backpacking breakfasts.  I usually eat oats (389 calories/100g) with nuts (approx. 600 calories/100g), dried fruit (350 calories/100g) and a bit of powdered milk. You aren’t limited to just oats or cereal for breakfast either.  Sometimes I’ll dehydrate carrot cake, pancakes or other goodies to eat for breakfast.  Just pour some milk over them to rehydrate and you’ve got a bangin’ breakfast.  You can buy [my dehydrator recipes book](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/) for more ideas and recipes. **Also read:** - [How much food to bring backpacking? (Calculator)](https://momgoescamping.com/how-much-food-bring-backpacking-calculator/) - [Cold-Soak Backpacking Meal Ideas](https://momgoescamping.com/no-cook-backpacking-meal-ideas/) - [Vegan Backpacking Meal Ideas](https://momgoescamping.com/vegan-backpacking-meal-ideas/) - [Tortilla Backpacking Meal Ideas](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-food/) - [Best Calorie-Dense Backpacking Foods](https://momgoescamping.com/calorie-dense-healthy-backpacking-foods/) ## Best Breakfast Cereals for Backpacking \*Click the arrows to sort the table by calories or protein! \[table id=65 /\] --- ###### Image credit: “[Jewels of the Salish 2012](https://www.flickr.com/photos/elkulak/7664026394/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Elkulak](https://www.flickr.com/people/elkulak/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Food --- ### [DIY Paracord Bear Canister Holster](https://momgoescamping.com/diy-bear-spray-holster/) **Published:** November 24, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Because I live in Serbia, I don’t always have a lot of options for backpacking gear (most brands won’t ship here!).  So, while I was able to find bear *spray*, I wasn’t able to find a holster for it.   A holster is incredibly important for carrying bear spray.  If you can’t access the spray immediately, then you might as well not be carrying it! So, I decided to make my own bear spray holster out of paracord. I figured that a paracord “bottle wrap” would also work for holding a bear canister. First, I tried using “[vertical rib hitching](http://www.paracordguild.com/vertical-hitching-aka-rib-cage-hitching/)” to make the holster.  It looked pretty and held the canister securely.  The problem was that the wrap would lose its shape each time I took the bear spray canister out.  It was a pain to get the bear spray back into the holder.  I actually remove my bear spray frequently (I encounter feral dogs a lot), so this wasn’t a good option. I considered the “chain sinnet” wrap, but it uses a lot of paracord.  The holster would end up heavy and bulky. Next, I tried the “cow hitch” wrap.  It worked perfectly and met all of these requirements: - Quick and easy to get canister out - Lightweight (lighter than a storebought holster!) - Wrap holds its shape (even without the bear spray in it) - Can carry on hip or backpack strap **For bear spray, you will need:** - 1 short piece (at least 6 inches) of paracord to go around the neck of the bear spray - 1 sliding “spring cord lock” (I just took one off of a cheap drawstring bag I wasn’t using) - Approximately 20 feet of 2mm paracord. You’ll use more/less depending on how big you make the hitches **Notes:** - I used a Celtic button knot for the drawstring - I put a tiny dot of super glue on the first and last hitch to ensure it wouldn’t ever unravel. - To attach to my belt, I simply slid two carabiners into the wrap (it wobbled a bit with just one carabiner) - You could also just put a small piece of Velcro webbing through the wrap to attach it to your pack/belt. [![diy bear spray holster paracord](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/diy-bear-spray-holster-paracord-text.jpg "diy bear spray holster paracord text - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/diy-bear-spray-holster-paracord-text.jpg) [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/diy-bear-spray-holster-paracord-bottom-view.jpg "diy bear spray holster paracord bottom view - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/diy-bear-spray-holster-paracord-bottom-view.jpg)*Bottom view of the holster*[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/diy-bear-spray-holster-paracord.jpg "diy bear spray holster paracord - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/diy-bear-spray-holster-paracord.jpg)*Wearing the bear spray holster on my fanny pack strap Its attached with two carabiners* **Below are the video instructions.** ## Why a Holster is Non-Negotiable Bear spray only works if you can access it in 2-3 seconds. If it’s clipped to your pack or buried in a side pocket, it’s useless in an emergency. A holster worn on your body — on your hip belt or chest strap — is essential every time you’re in bear country. This DIY paracord holster solves the problem when commercial options aren’t available or won’t ship to your location ## What You’ll Need - Approximately 20 feet of 2mm paracord - A small dab of super glue - Scissors or a lighter to seal the ends - Your bear spray canister (measure before you start — sizes vary by brand) The cow hitch wrap works best for this project. It holds the canister securely, keeps its shape when you remove and replace the canister, and stays lightweight. Vertical rib hitching looks nicer but loses its shape with repeated use. Chain sinnet uses too much cord and adds unnecessary bulk. ## Tips for Getting It Right - Make your hitches snug but not so tight the canister is hard to remove — you need to be able to grab it fast - Test the holster by removing and replacing the canister at least 10 times before you hit the trail - Add a small dot of super glue on the first and last hitch to prevent unraveling over time - Attach to your hip belt or chest strap using a carabiner for quick access ## Carrying Bear Spray Safely Once your holster is made, practice your draw. In a real encounter with a bear or aggressive animal, you won’t have time to think — your hand needs to find that canister automatically. Practice removing the safety clip too. Most people have never done it under stress and fumble when it counts. If you encounter dogs or wildlife frequently, position the holster on your dominant side and practice a one-handed draw until it feels automatic. ## A Note on Bear Spray in General Bear spray is effective against virtually all large mammals, not just bears. It works against aggressive dogs, moose, and other wildlife too. If you’re hiking anywhere with unpredictable animals, having a holster that keeps your spray accessible at all times is worth the 20 minutes and few dollars of paracord it takes to make this one. ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear, Camping Safety **Tags:** bears --- ### [How to Make Your Own Dehydrated Backpacking Meals](https://momgoescamping.com/diy-dehydrated-backpacking-meals/) **Published:** February 27, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** When I first started backpacking, I would make [meals from instant supermarket foods](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-supermarket-foods/). But eating ramen and boxed couscous got old really quickly, not to mention that those meals lack protein and nutrients.  So, I started dehydrating my own backpacking meals. Yes, dehydrating meals for backpacking does take work and planning (If you are new to backpacking food, read: [What to Eat Backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-food/)).  But I promise you it is worth it! It’s cheaper, more nutritious and lightens your pack since some meals become insanely calorie-dense. And dehydrating meals gets easier over time, especially once you build up a collection of go-to meals for your trips. There are three ways to make dehydrated backpacking meals. I’d go over them here, including step-by-step instructions, info about shelf life and tips to get the best results. **Jump to:** - [Method1: Dehydrating Entire Meals](#meals) - [Method 2: Add-In Method](#add-ins) - [Method 3: Spreads](#spreads) - [Recipe Ideas](#recipe-ideas) - [Packaging and Shelf Life](#packaging) - [Tips](#tips) [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/backpacking-food-mostly-dehydrated.jpg "backpacking food mostly dehydrated - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/backpacking-food-mostly-dehydrated.jpg)*Mostly dehydrated backpacking food 1 Snacks 2 Oatmeal with dried fruit and nuts 3 Tortillas with dried pea spread 4 Pasta with dried tomato cashew sauce and 5 Ramen with dried mushrooms scallions and PNB* --- **By the way, I wrote an entire eBook on dehydrating meals. It also has tons of info on meal planning for backpacking trips. [Check it out here](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmetasheck).**[![dehydrator backpacking recipes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/book-with-tablet.png "book with tablet - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/book-with-tablet.png) --- \[sta\_anchor id=”entire-meals” /\] ## Method 1: Dehydrating Entire Meals With this method, you literally dehydrate entire meals for backpacking.  This is the easiest method when it comes to packaging and prep on the trial.  But not all meals dehydrate well though, or they end up with weird textures when rehydrated.  So, it takes a bit of trial-and-error and experimenting. ### At-Home Instructions: 1. Cook a meal. 2. Put a portion of the meal on the dehydrator. 3. Dehydrate completely. 4. Pack the dried meal portion for the trail. ### On the Trail Instructions: To rehydrate, you simply pour hot water over the dried meal and wait 5-25 minutes (depends on the ingredients; some take longer to rehydrate than others). You can also use cold water to rehydrate dried meals if you don’t want to bring a stove.  This is known as the [cold soaking method](https://momgoescamping.com/cold-soak-backpacking-meals/). ### Pros: - **One-Bag:** The entire meal goes in one bag, so it’s easy to pack. No need to worry about multiple baggies when preparing food. - **Easy to Prepare on the Trail:** It really doesn’t get easier than this. Just pour water and wait. ### Cons: - **Hard to count calories:** I tally calories when backpacking to ensure I bring exactly the right amount of food. This is tricky with DIY meals because you have to add up the calories in EVERY SINGLE INGREDIENT you add. It’s a pain! - **Risk of gross texture:** Some ingredients rehydrate faster than others. This means some ingredients can end up mushy while others are still crunchy. - **Limited options:** Some meals simply don’t dehydrate or rehydrate well. For example, I’ve never had luck dehydrating meals which contain brown rice. [![vegan backpacking risotto](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/barley-walnut-risotto.jpg "barley walnut risotto - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/barley-walnut-risotto.jpg)*Above Dehydrated walnut barley risotto It is insanely calorie dense at 172 caloriesounce dry weight*![vegan backpacking risotto rehydrated](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/barley-walnut-risotto-2-1.jpg "barley walnut risotto 2 - Mom Goes Camping")*And heres what the risotto looks like when rehydrated It isnt the prettiest but it is delicious and filling*   --- \[sta\_anchor id=”add-ins” /\] ## Method 2: Dehydrated Add-Ins With this method, you create backpacking meals by  adding dehydrated foods to non-dehydrated ingredients.   Typically, the *carbohydrate* portion of the meal will be non-dehydrated. For example, you can dehydrate sauce to add to pasta.  Or dehydrate fruit to add to oatmeal. ### At-Home Instructions: 1. **Choose a carb.** Measure out a portion and pack this separately. 2. **Cook the add-ins.** In most cases (especially with vegetables), you will need cook the add-ins before dehydrating. Otherwise they will take FOREVER to rehydrate. 3. **Dehydrate the add-ins.** 4. **Pack the add-ins separately.** If you  have multiple add-ins which each  have different rehydrating times, you may need to pack these separately too! [![dehydrated sauce for backpacking meal](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/dehdyrated-sauce-for-backpacking-meal-min.jpg "dehdyrated sauce for backpacking meal-min - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/dehdyrated-sauce-for-backpacking-meal-min.jpg)*Dehydrated creamy cashew tomato sauce which will go over pasta*[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/dehydrated-beans.jpg "dehydrated beans - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/dehydrated-beans.jpg)*Dehydrated beans can be added to almost instant supermarket meal  They are insanely calorie dense when dry and a cheap source of protein* ### On the Trail Instructions: How you rehydrate the meals depends on the ingredients and rehydrating times.  For example, mashed potato flakes cook instantly.  So, you have to rehydrate the add-ins *before* the mashed potatoes or you’ll end up with crunchy bits in your potatoes. By contrast, pasta takes a lot longer to cook than dried sauces.  You have to cook it *before* rehydrating the sauce or you’ll end up with either a runny mess or sauce burnt to the pot. Below are instructions for rehydrating typical DIY backpacking meals with the add-in method. #### **Pasta with dehydrated sauce:** 1. First cook the carbohydrate. 2. Make sure there is a bit of extra water in the pot. 3. Add the dehydrated sauce. 4. Mix it in, cover the pot and wait 5-15 minutes. 5. *OR* rehydrate the sauce in a separate pot. Mix it into the pasta when rehydrated. #### **Pasta or rice with dehydrated add-ins:** 1. Cook all of the ingredients at the same time. 2. *OR* put the veggies in right before the carb is done. This will keep soft veggies (like broccoli) from turning to mush. **Ramen with dehydrated add-ins:** 1. With add-ins that rehydrate quickly, just cook all of the ingredients at the same time. 2. With add-ins that require longer rehydrating, soak or cook these first. Then add the ramen and finish cooking. **Oatmeal with dehydrated fruit:** 1. Let the dried fruit rehydrate in (ideally hot or boiling) water until soft. 2. Add oats and let soak until desired texture. **Quick-cooking carbs (mashed potatoes, polenta, grits, couscous) with dehydrated add-ins:** 1. First rehydrate the add-ins in hot or boiling water. 2. Add the carb, adjusting water as necessary **Quick-cooking carbs with sauce:** Rehydrate the sauce in a separate pot.  If you try to do it in one pot, the sauce will be dispersed throughout. You have to use two pots: one for cooking the carb and another for the sauce. ### Pros: - **Easier to count calories:** The add-in method makes it easier to tally up calories, especially if you are “elevating” instant supermarket meals. Just calculate how much is in a portion of the instant meal and tally up the calories in any add-ins. - **Better texture:** You don’t have to worry about your carbs turning to mush with this method. - **Less prep at home:** Instead of dehydrating entire meals, you can just dehydrate a few ingredients to make instant meals more interesting. It’s faster and less effort. ### Cons: - **Pack in multiple baggies:** If the ingredients have different cooking/rehydrating times, you’ll need to pack them separately. This means more baggies of food to keep track of. - **More involved prep on the trail:** Trail prep is more complex. You’ll either need multiple pots for cooking each ingredient (like one pot for pasta and another for the dehydrated sauce) or you will need to put the ingredients into your pot at separate times. ![dehydrated backpacking meal in baggies](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/mashed-potatoes.jpg "mashed potatoes - Mom Goes Camping")*Instant mashed potatoes with dehydrated veggie sausages lentils and spinach  The sausages take the longest to rehydrate so they go in the pot first  Then the lentils and spinach go in for a few minutes  Finally the potato flakes are mixed in*[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/amount-of-water-left.jpg "amount of water left - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/amount-of-water-left.jpg)*This is how much water I had in the pot before adding the dry sauce ingredients*[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/mixing-in-sauce.jpg "mixing in sauce - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/mixing-in-sauce.jpg)*Then I mixed in the deydrated sauce  For this meal I also added some chunks of cheese and olives for extra yumminess*  --- \[sta\_anchor id=”spreads” /\] ## Method 3: Dehydrated Spreads This is my go-to when it comes to backpacking lunches.  It’s easy and there are tons of options. ### At-Home Instructions: 1. **Make or buy a spread.** Buying spreads is more expensive but the calories are calculated for you. 2. **Put a portion of the spread on the dehydrator.** 3. **Dehydrate completely.** 4. **Blend the dried spread into a powder.** This is optional but makes rehydrating much faster! 5. **Pack the dried meal portion for the trail.** ### On the Trail Instructions: 1. **Add a bit of water to the dried spread.** You can always add more water but you can’t take it away!  So, so add the water slowly so you don’t end up with a watery mess. 2. **Wait a couple minutes for it to absorb the water.** Add more water if necessary. 3. **Spread it on your carbohydrate.** Tortillas are my favorite but bagels, English muffins and waffles are good. You can also add Fritos or cracker crumbs to the spread and eat it with a spoon. ### Pros: - **Easiest method:** Both at home and on the trail, this is the easiest way to make your own lunches. - **Counting calories is easy:** If you dehydrate store-bought spreads, the calories will be calculated for you. - **No stove required:** Spreads will rehydrate with cold water, though you can add boiling water if you want. ### Cons: - **Not a hot meal:** Though you could eat a dehydrated spread next to a hot cooked meal. - **Limited options:** Oily spreads don’t dehydrate well, so your options are a bit limited. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/dehydrated-bean-spread.jpg "dehydrated bean spread - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/dehydrated-bean-spread.jpg)*Dehydrated white bean and spinch spread*[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/dehydrated-bean-spread-instructions-trail-2.jpg "dehydrated bean spread instructions trail 2 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/dehydrated-bean-spread-instructions-trail-2.jpg)*Just add water to the spread and wait a few minutes for it to absorb it*[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/dehydrated-bean-spread-instructions-trail-4.jpg "dehydrated bean spread instructions trail 4 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/dehydrated-bean-spread-instructions-trail-4.jpg)*The fully rehydrated spread on a tortilla Delicious nutritious and calorie dense* --- \[sta\_anchor id=”recipe-ideas” /\] ## Dehydrator Recipe Ideas **Breakfast** - Oatmeal with dehydrated fruit and powdered milk - Dehydrated pancakes, rehydrated in powdered milk - [Dehydrated carrot cake](https://momgoescamping.com/dehydrated-carrot-cake-backpacking/), rehydrated in powdered milk or eaten dry [![vegan pancakes for backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/DSCF3628-1.jpg "vegan pancakes - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/DSCF3628-1.jpg)*Dehydrated pancakes getting rehydrated in milk from powder for breakfast* **Spreads and Lunches:** - [Hummus](https://momgoescamping.com/dehydrator-hummus-backpacking-recipe/) - [Cauliflower, tomatoes and walnut “meat” mix](https://momgoescamping.com/cauliflower-walnut-dehydrator-backpacking-recipe/) - [White bean and spinach spread](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-recipe-bean-spread/) - [Black bean enchilada filling](https://momgoescamping.com/dehydrator-black-bean-enchilada-backpacking/) [![DIY dehydrated hummus](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/DSCF0650.jpg "dehydrated hummus - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/DSCF0650.jpg)*Dehydrated hummus* **Dinner:** - Couscous with dehydrated beans and salsa - Instant mashed potatoes with dehydrated hot dogs and veggies - [Pasta with dehydrated tomato sauce with TVP, olives and cheese](https://momgoescamping.com/tvp-pasta-sauce-backpacking-recipe/) - Ramen with dehydrated scallions, mushroom powder and jerky - Dehydrated corn chowder (from a can or homemade) served with crackers - Dehydrated thick tomato soup (from a can or homemade) served with croutons [![vegan backpacking chili](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/DSCF3727-min.jpg "vegan backpacking chili - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/DSCF3727-min.jpg)*This quinoa chili was dehydrated as an entire meal On the trail I just add hot water and wait 5 minutes Voila Ive got a healthy meal* [![dehydrated backpacking soup](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/soup.jpeg.jpg "soup.jpeg - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/soup.jpeg.jpg)*One portion of dehydrated tomato soup It weighs just 1oz 33g*[![vegan backpacking ramen with tofu and veggies](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/DSCF2057.jpg "vegan backpacking ramen with tofu and veggies - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/DSCF2057.jpg)*Ramen with dehydrated tofu and veggies added in* **Want lots of delicious, calorie-dense dehydrator recipes?  Check out my eBook. Yes, this is shameless self-promotion but I’ll even give you 50% off 😀**[![dehydrator backpacking recipes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/book-with-tablet.png "book with tablet - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/book-with-tablet.png) **[Get the book here for 50% off](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmetasheck50off).** \[sta\_anchor id=”packaging” /\] ## **Packaging Dehydrated Meals for Backpacking** [![dehydrated backpacking food](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/backpacking-meals.jpg "backpacking meals - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/backpacking-meals.jpg)These meals have 13700 calories and only weigh 69lbs dry No special packaging required 🙂 I just put my dehydrator meals in zip baggies. This is generally fine for trips of up to two weeks. If you are going on longer backpacking trips or need to mail-drop yourself meals, then you’ll probably want to vacuum seal your DIY meals.  Likewise, if you want to eat out of the bag instead of a pot or bowl, you’ll need sturdier bags which won’t melt when in contact with hot water. ## **Shelf Life** Most DIY dehydrated backpacking meals will last for at least 4 weeks without any special packaging.  Heat and humidity will make dehydrated meals go bad faster.  To make them last longer, you may want to vacuum seal them. Fatty meals have a much shorter shelf-life because heat will make the fats go rancid.  Rancid foods are still technically safe to eat (won’t give you food poisoning), but get a gross sour or even fishy taste. **To make dehydrated meals last longer:** - **Make sure foods are very dry:** They should snap or break and not bend. This means most of the moisture is out of the food and it will last longer. However, it will also take longer to rehydrate. - **Add oil separately:** When making dehydrator meals, cook the meal without any oil. The oil will make the meal go rancid faster.  Instead, bring a little bottle of oil with you on the trail and add it to the meal when you rehydrate it. - **Also add milk separately:** Milk contains a lot of fat which will cause the food to go bad faster.  For recipes like cream soups which call for milk, make the meal without the milk and dehydrate it.  Then bring some powdered milk with you on the trail and add it to the meal when rehydrating. \[sta\_anchor id=”tips” /\] ## **Tips** ### Start with Breakfast and Lunch Spreads If you don’t have much experience planning backpacking meals or dehydrating, then it’s best to stick to breakfast for starters. It’s really easy to dehydrate fruit to add to oatmeal or other hot breakfast cereals.  And it’s a LOT cheaper than buying commercial backpacking breakfasts. ### Creamy Recipes and Stews Work Best These meals are the most forgiving.  Why? Because it won’t matter as much if you accidentally add too much water.  Nor do you have to worry about some ingredients ending up mushy while others are still hard. ### **Blend Dehydrated Ingredients into a Powder** The biggest problem with dehydrating your own backpacking meals is some ingredients remain chewy, even after soaking or boiling for a long time.  A workaround is this: use a coffee mill or high-speed blender (like [this one](https://amzn.to/384I6TQ)) to grind the dried foods into a powder.  These foods will rehydrate almost instantly and give you a uniform texture. [![dehydrated backpacking food blended into a powder](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/blend-dehydrated-food-into-powder.jpg "blend dehydrated food into powder - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/blend-dehydrated-food-into-powder.jpg)*Dehydrated pasta sauce blended into a powder so it rehydrates faster and without clumps* ### **Test Meals before Hitting the Trail!** Especially if you plan on eating the same dehydrated meal multiple times on the trail, test it before setting out!  You don’t want to discover that your meal won’t rehydrate when you are tired, hungry, and have no other options.  For example, I learned the hard way that certain brands of tofu can’t be rehydrated whereas others rehydrate without a problem. ### **Vegetables Must Be Pre-Cooked** One of the biggest mistakes when dehydrating backpacking food is not pre-cooking vegetables.  For example, you might dehydrate slices of raw carrot to add to a stew.   Here’s the problem with that: Raw dehydrated vegetables must be rehydrated *and* cooked.  Because raw veggies have tough fibers (cooking softens them), they take a very long time to rehydrate.  You also need to factor in the cooking time for carrots (which is about 8 minutes of boiling).  You will blow through 40+ minutes of fuel before the dry carrots ever get soft! There are some veggies which don’t need to be pre-cooked, such as leafy greens like kale.  However, make sure you pre-cook all other veggies before dehydrating. ### Avoid These Ingredients: Some foods simply don’t dehydrate or rehydrate well.  Avoid using these ingredients in  your DIY backpacking meals: - **Fatty foods:** Dehydrators only dry out *water* and not oil. So fatty foods like avocados and peanut butter cannot be dehydrated.  I have had lots of success dehydrating nut and seed butters though, but only when they are mixed with other ingredients like tomato sauce. - **Mushrooms:** While you can dehydrate mushrooms, they take *forever* to rehydrate on the trail. Even after 20 minutes of boiling, they will still be chewy and tough to digest. - **Brown rice:** I experimented with dehydrating brown rice.  It takes around 20-30 minutes of boiling to completely rehydrate, which is way too long of a cooking time for backpacking. - **Peas and corn:** Foods which hard “shells” around them turn into hard rocks when dehydrated and will remain hard even after boiling for a long time.  Some people like Backpacking Chef apparently have success with these, but I haven’t and don’t want to blow through fuel to boil peas for 45 minutes! - **Eggs:** Dehydrated eggs reconstitute into a gross tough mess. If you want to eat eggs on the trail you should get freeze-dried eggs.  These are made with a [completely different process](https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/agricultural-and-biological-sciences/dried-eggs). ### **Soups = Dips, Bars = Porridge** By adding more or less water to a dehydrated meal, you will change the consistency.  This means you can eat soup as a dip, or vice versa.  Likewise, I’ve discovered dehydrated bars can also be rehydrated into breakfast porridge.  While the taste is the same, the texture is very different and thus will feel like a completely new meal. [![dehydrated energy bar](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/energy-bar-min.jpg "energy bar-min - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/energy-bar-min.jpg)*This energy bar is made by dehydrated a mixture of quinoa and fruit It can be eaten as a bar or rehydrated into a porridge* ### **Label Packages** Some meals look almost identical when dehydrated.  If you are bringing lots of dehydrated meals on a trip, label the baggies with the contents!  Otherwise you might end up putting soup on your pasta instead of sauce. ### **Experiment!** In addition to dehydrating backpacking meals, you can also dehydrate lots of great hiking foods.  Experiment making things like your own trail mix, protein bars, and even crackers. Not all recipes will work out but you are sure to discover some delicious snacks and meals if you experiment. [![DIY calorie dense energy bars](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/coffee-balls.jpg "coffee balls - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/coffee-balls.jpg)Energy balls made with nuts DIY dehydrated fruits and COFFEE powder Yummy and energizing 😀 ### **Dehydrated Pasta Turns to Mush** It is possible to cook pasta and then dehydrate it.  This will reduce the cooking time required on the trail.  You could even prepare the dehydrated pasta by cold-soaking it. However, I’ve found that dehydrated pasta often turns into a gross starchy glob when rehydrated.  So, while it is possible to dehydrate cooked pasta, I don’t recommend it. I’d rather eat polenta or grits instead of a glob of pasta mush. ### **Be Cautious when Dehydrating Meat** You can dehydrate meat for DIY backpacking meals.  However, to kill bacteria like E. Coli the [meat must first be heated to at least 160°F](https://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/portal/fsis/topics/food-safety-education/get-answers/food-safety-fact-sheets/meat-preparation/jerky-and-food-safety/CT_Index) and then kept at a temperature of at least 140°F while dehydrating. Most cheap dehydrators aren’t capable of reaching this temperature.  Even if they claim to reach this temperature, it’s possible the top racks are much cooler. To play it safe, only dehydrate meat if you have a very good dehydrator (preferably a horizontal-flow dehydrator).  Put a meat thermometer on the top rack so you can monitor the temperature. Alternatively, just buy freeze-dried meat to add to your meals instead (read about [DIY freeze-dried backpacking meals](https://momgoescamping.com/diy-freeze-dried-backpacking-mealss/) here). Or use veggie proteins like beans, which rehydrate really well. **Below are images of some of the recipes from my ebook. You will definitely have the most envied food on the trail! 😀** [![backpacking meals and food](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/gallery-min.jpg "gallery-min - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/gallery-min.jpg) [**Get the recipes here!**](https://gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck/50off) **Do you dehydrate your own backpacking meals? Let us know your favorite recipes in the comments section below.** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Food **Tags:** dehydrated food, dehydrator --- ### [DIY Freeze Dried Backpacking Meals from Bulk Ingredients](https://momgoescamping.com/diy-freeze-dried-backpacking-mealss/) **Published:** December 19, 2018 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Freeze-dried meals are awesome for backpacking and camping.  They are lightweight, cook quickly, and have a long shelf life.  The only problem is that commercial freeze-dried meals can be *really* expensive.  A way around this is to buy bulk freeze dried foods and assemble your own trail meals. **Jump to:** - [**How to make your own freeze-dried meals**](#meals) - **[Calculating calories and nutrients](#nutrition)** - [**Shelf life and packaging methods**](#shelf) - **[Where to buy bulk freeze-dried foods](#bulk)** - [**Combining freeze-dried and dehydrated ingredients**](#combining) **Interested in dehydrating your own backpacking meals?** Get my recipes eBook.  It has over 50 ultra-light, healthy meals plus tons of info on backpacking nutrition and meal planning. [Learn more here](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/). [![dehydrator backpacking recipes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/book-with-tablet.png "book with tablet - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/book-with-tablet.png) \[sta\_anchor id=”meals” /\] ## How to Make Your Own Freeze Dried Meals ### Step 1: Choose Your Carb This will be the base of your meal.  Think pasta, instant mashed potatoes, couscous, rice noodles, ramen, polenta… ### Step 2: Add Protein Most commercial freeze-dried backpacking meals suck in terms of protein.  One of the benefits of going the DIY approach is that you can really load up on the protein. You can get bulk containers of freeze-dried meat.  They aren’t cheap though.  If you want to save money or are vegan, then consider freeze-dried beans instead. TVP (though not freeze-dried) is also a good cheap protein option. ### Step 3: Add Veggies and Fruits This is where making your own freeze-dried meals really pays off.  You can omit any veggies that you hate and put in the veggies you actually like. **Don’t skimp on the fruits and veggies!**  I know that they don’t have a lot of calories per weight, but they are crucial for antioxidants and vitamins.  How are you supposed to recover from a long day of hiking if you don’t have nutrients??? ### Step 4: Add Healthy Fat Without fat, your meals will taste boring and you won’t feel satiated. Ideally, about 50% of your calories should come from fat. What fat to add to your DIY meals? - **Cheese powder:** Most store-bought backpacking meals are loaded with freeze-dried cheese or dairy.  It’s kind of hard for a meal to taste bad whe it is covered in cheese!  To replicate this, just buy freeze-dried cheese powder in bulk. You can buy freeze-dried cheese powder in bulk. - **Olive oil:** Bring a bottle of olive oil with you on the trail. Olive oil has a great calorie/weight ratio and is almost pure fat. Add it to meals after they rehdyrate. - **Nuts and seeds:** Preferably in nut/seed butter form as your body will absorb it better. Here are some [backpacking meal ideas with peanut butter](https://momgoescamping.com/peanut-nut-butter-backpacking-recipe-ideas/). ### Step 5: Add Flavor Now choose flavors like herbs and spices.  The more flavor you add, the less salt you will need.  Note that your [sense of taste changes at high altitudes](https://www.nbcnews.com/healthmain/one-reason-airline-food-so-bad-your-own-tastebuds-6C10823522) so you’ll probably need more salt and flavoring than you normally would. ### Packing Meals for the Trail You’ve got two options for packaging your meals: in one bag or in two bags. **All In One Bag:** As a general rule, ingredients for soups and stews can be packaged together in one baggie.  When it’s time eat, just dump all the ingredients in your pot and cook until rehydrated. Likewise, if all of your foods take a similar time to cook/rehydrate, then you can package them all in one baggie.  For example, instant rice with freeze dried beans and veggies should be fine all in one baggie. **Two Bags:** Some ingredients may have shorter rehydrating times than others. Because of this, you may need to package ingredients separately. Otherwise, some ingredients may burn to the pot, or will turn to mush. For example: Instant mashed potato flakes cook *very* quickly.  If you were to mix all your bulk freeze-dried ingredients in with the flakes, you’d end up with crunchy bits in the potatoes.  Yuck! Because of this, you should: - Package the quick-cook and longer-cooking ingredients separately. - Put the longer-cooking ingredients into the pot first. Cook until rehydrated. - Add the quick-cook ingredients to the pot, adding more water if necessary. Cook until done. **Keep Cheese Powder Separate** With few exceptions, it’s best to package cheese powder separately.  Wait until all the other ingredients are fully cooked/rehydrated.  Then add the cheese powder, along with a bit more water if necessary.  Trying to cook with the cheese powder already mixed in will cause everything to stick or burn to the pot! ## Tips for Making Your Own Freeze-Dried Meals ### **Start with Breakfast** If you aren’t sure how to get started with DIY backpacking meals, start with breakfast.  Those bags of Mountain House oatmeal are really expensive (especially considering how cheap oats are!). You are paying a premium price for what essential is some oats and a few freeze-dried fruits in fancy packaging. To make your own, just combine some freeze-dried fruits with oats, nuts, and some sugar. You can also add freeze-dried milk powder to make it creamier.  I like to add superfoods like chia seeds to my trail oatmeal too. ### Choose “Wet” Meals Avoid dry meals like scrambled eggs with freeze-dried veggies.  Why? Because you can end up with soggy eggs if you accidentally add too much water (gross!).  Or the eggs will rehydrate before the veggies, leaving you with crunchy bits.  You are also more likely to burn your pot while rehydrating dry meals. Instead, opt for “wet” meals. They are much more forgiving! Try: - Stews - Hearty soups - Chili - Lentils or beans with rice in sauce ### Pasta Is Also Easy For DIY backpacking pasta: 1. **At home:** 1. Pack pasta + freeze-dried protein and veggies in one baggie 2. Pack freeze-dried sauce ingredients (such as cheese powder or tomato powder) in another baggie. 2. **On the Trail:** 1. Presoak the pasta bag contents. This cuts down on cooking time (saves fuel!) and helps you see how much water you really need. 2. Cook the pasta. 3. Make sure there’s a bit of water left in the pot. 4. Remove pot from stove. 5. Add sauce bag contents. Mix and wait 5 minutes. ### Steal Ideas from Backpacking Meal Brands An easy way to come up with meal ideas is this: Look at what the backpacking meal companies offer.  Then just replicate them, with some more of your favorite spices or ingredients added in. \[sta\_anchor id=”nutrition” /\] ## Calculating Calories and Nutrients Most backpackers and thru-hikers I know focus solely on calories when doing their meal planning.  Hence why Pringles are so damn popular as a trail food! I’d encourage you to think beyond calories.  Without protein and fiber, all those calories will rush into your bloodstream too quickly.  This will cause your blood sugar to skyrocket, and subsequently crash.  And when it crashes, you will feel tired and very hungry. There isn’t too much research on thru-hiking nutrition.  Most macronutrient recommendations are based on [Brenda L. Braaten’s info](http://thru-hiker.com/articles/pack_light_eat_right.php?fbclid=IwAR3BsCBlDYdq9fSjMOvmHRj-1QaIlcnOetW4xp_-Efw2fGhCD2Z-mBBhXb4). She recommends: - 50% fat - 35% carbs - 15% protein (you’ll need about 0.8 to 1g of protein per kilogram of bodyweight) But don’t forget about micronutrients too.  Fruits and vegetables might not deliver much in terms of calories/ounce, but they are crucial for muscle repair, immune response, and mental clarity. If you really can’t be bothered to get 6 servings *each* of fruits and veggies into your backpacking meals, at least carry a veggie-based supplement powder. \[sta\_anchor id=”shelf” /\] ## Shelf-Life of DIY Freeze Dried Meals The freeze-dried meals you buy can last for *years*…until you open them.  Once the package is open, the shelf life shrinks drastically.  Some companies recommend eating opened packages of freeze-dried foods within 1-3 weeks! So long as you keep the contents of your DIY meals dry (which also means out of humidity), they should still last for months.  But any amount of humidity can drastically shorten shelf life. Something to think about if you are mail-dropping yourself food to a humid area! ### Storage Bags for DIY Trail Meals Backpacking meals like those from Mountain House are in foil-lined bags.  These are sealed to keep out oxygen and humidity. However, you can probably get by with using regular zip bags for packaging your DIY meals. For longer trips, or high-humidity situations, you’ll want to seal your meals.  Consider getting a vacuum sealer like [this one](https://amzn.to/48FARl1). Alternatively, you can get [foil-lined Ziplock bags](https://amzn.to/2S99Hfs).  They aren’t air-tight, but should be okay for most trips of 4+ weeks. \*Many hikers like to put each meal in its own pouch.  This makes it easy to portion out meals and prevents you from overeating.  But you can also store your meals in bulk and just measure them out before preparing on the trail. ![backpacking meal packaging](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/backpacking-meal-packaging.jpg "backpacking meal packaging - Mom Goes Camping")*Just add water and you can prepare your meal inside the foil lined zip bag* \[sta\_anchor id=”bulk” /\] ## Where to Buy Freeze-Dried Foods in Bulk There are a lot of brands which offer freeze-dried foods in bulk containers.  Your best option is to shop at Amazon.  They have all the major brands, often have sales and you’ll save money on shipping. **[See bulk freeze dried foods at Amazon here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=4db6d82e72822f91f841d59f14bc30ef&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=sporting&keywords=bulk%20freeze%20dried%20food).** Below are some other brands and places where you can buy bulk freeze dried foods for your DIY backpacking meals. ### Bulk Freeze-Dried Meat \*Note that many companies put fillers like flour in their freeze-dried meat.  These options are for 100% meat without fillers. - **[The Ready Store](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=17b72de8-f51a-4562-ad6a-48591473f286&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thereadystore.com%2Ffood-storage%2Fpopular-categories%2Fmeats):** They have a big selection of freeze-dried meats including beef, chicken, sausage, turkey, and bacon. - **[Valley Food Storage](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=754a66fc-7ace-4b3a-8c88-333523627173&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fvalleyfoodstorage.com%2Fcollections%2Fprotein):** They have chicken, beef, sausage and lots of freeze-dried cheese too. - **[Augason Farms](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=f1d5c422-0a10-40cd-b38d-4c9d747bda06&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.augasonfarms.com%2FFood-Storage%2FMeats-and-Proteins):** Chicken, beef, and variety packs available - **[Nutristore](https://amzn.to/2LnXAsf):** Available on Amazon, they have chicken and beef in bulk. - **[Mountain House](https://amzn.to/2S7rMuh)**: They have chicken and beef cans. ### Freeze-Dried Vegetarian Proteins You are pretty limited here.  Most products are *dehydrated* and not freeze-dried.  It’s pretty easy to dehydrate your own beans though. - **[Valley Food Storage](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=754a66fc-7ace-4b3a-8c88-333523627173&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fvalleyfoodstorage.com%2Fcollections%2Fprotein):** They have freeze-dried peanut butter, cheese, and some other vegetarian proteins. - **[Augason Farms](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=f1d5c422-0a10-40cd-b38d-4c9d747bda06&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.augasonfarms.com%2FFood-Storage%2FMeats-and-Proteins%2FMeat-Substitutes):** Freeze-dried peanut butter, taco mix, black bean burger mix, “bacon” bits, egg powder, and variety packs. ### Bulk Freeze-Dried Fruits and Veggies Unfortunately, there aren’t too many options when it comes to freeze dried veggies. For this reason, you might need to combine some dehydrated ingredients with your freeze-dried bulk ingredients. It will take some experimentation to get the ratios and cook times right.  But, I think it is worth it in the long run – you’ll save money on backpacking meals plus be able to customize them for your nutritional and taste needs. 🙂 \*I love mushrooms, but they are really difficult to rehydrate.  They almost always end up chewy.  So keep that in mind if you try to make trail meals with freeze dried mushrooms. - **[Augason Farms](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=f1d5c422-0a10-40cd-b38d-4c9d747bda06&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.augasonfarms.com%2FFood-Storage%2FMeats-and-Proteins%2FMeat-Substitutes):** They have the most options when it comes to bulk freeze-dried fruits and veggies. - **[The Ready Store](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=17b72de8-f51a-4562-ad6a-48591473f286&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thereadystore.com%2Ffood-storage):** They also have a good selection which includes fruit and veggie buckets that include a variety of different products. - **[Mother Earth](https://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=d84a60bcf74e47aaf5d5745a10f93dbc&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=grocery&keywords=Mother%20Earth%20freeze%20dried)![](//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&l=ur2&o=1):** Has freeze-dried berries, bananas, broccoli, and some other fruits - **[Karen’s Naturals Freeze Dried variety pack (fruits)](https://amzn.to/2S8XmYu)** --- \[sta\_anchor id=”cheese” /\] ### Bulk Freeze-Dried Sauces and Cheese - [Augason Farms](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=f1d5c422-0a10-40cd-b38d-4c9d747bda06&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.augasonfarms.com%2FFood-Storage%2FDairy%2FCheese): Four different freeze-dried cheeses - [The Ready Store](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=17b72de8-f51a-4562-ad6a-48591473f286&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thereadystore.com%2Ffood-storage): Three different cheeses and lots of other freeze-dried dairy products (like butter) too - [Backpacker’s Pantry freeze dried whole milk](https://amzn.to/3OF8PMx) - [Nutristore freeze dried cheddar](https://amzn.to/2EBxvW2) \[sta\_anchor id=”combining” /\] ## Combining Dehydrated and Freeze-Dried Ingredients Even with the DIY approach, freeze-dried foods are expensive and you don’t have too many options. For this reason, I dehydrate my own meals instead.  It’s also possible to combine dehydrated and freeze-dried foods in the same meal. **Some things to keep in mind when combining dehydrated and freeze-dried ingredients:** - **Dehydrated foods contain moisture.** If you mix them with your freeze-dried foods, some moisture will get into the freeze-dried ingredients.  This will reduce shelf life. - **Rehydration times may vary.** If you boil all the ingredients together, some ingredients might end up mushy.  So, you will likely need to package meal ingredients in two baggies. **Below are some of the dehydrator meals I’ve made. You can find all of these in my Trail Recipes eBook.  [Buy it here](https://gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck/).** ![dehydrator backpacking recipes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/gallery.jpg "gallery - Mom Goes Camping")*From left to right Blueberry chia oatmeal pear cardamom ginger oatmeal red pepper crackers with hummus beetroot salami mashed potatoes with white bean gravy pasta with buttery white bean sauce*![dehydrated backpacking food](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/backpacking-meals.jpg "backpacking meals - Mom Goes Camping")Heres what the dehydrator meals look like packed These have a total of 13700 calories and only weigh 69lbs dry Just add water to rehydrate **Because you made it to the end of this post, I’ll even give you 50% off.** **[Buy the eBook here for 50% off](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmetasheck50off).** ![dehydrator backpacking recipes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/book-with-tablet.png "book with tablet - Mom Goes Camping") **Do you make your own backpacking meals with freeze-dried ingredients? What’s your favorite recipe? Let us know in the comments.** --- Resources for this article include: <http://www.marathonguide.com/training/articles/Nutrition.cfm> <https://www.msrgear.com/blog/nutrition-for-thru-hikers-part-1-food-for-fuel/> <https://thru-hiker.com/articles/PackLightEatRight/protein.htm> https://blackwoodspress.com/blog/21416/high-protein-hiking-foods/ Image credits: “Lunch!” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [fordsbasement](https://www.flickr.com/people/fordsbasement/) “[IMG\_1449-DxO-](https://www.flickr.com/photos/23957354@N07/41828995150/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [Element58](https://www.flickr.com/people/23957354@N07/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Backpacking, Camping & Backpacking Food **Tags:** backpacking, food, freeze dried, meals --- ### [Can You Use Two Sleeping Bags to Make One Warmer Bag?](https://momgoescamping.com/combining-two-sleeping-bags/) **Published:** November 16, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** The weather is getting colder, you still want to go camping but you don’t want to buy a new (and probably expensive!) sleeping bag.  So, you are wondering whether you can nest two sleeping bags to make one warmer bag.  Here’s what you need to know about putting one sleeping bag into another to bump up the temperature rating. **Also read:** - [How Cold Is Too Cold for Tent Camping?](https://momgoescamping.com/how-cold-is-too-cold-for-tent-camping/) - [Ways to Make Your Sleeping Bag Warmer](https://momgoescamping.com/warmer-sleeping-bag/) ## Can you sleep in two sleeping bags in cold weather? Yes, you can absolutely double up on sleeping bags.  It will definitely be warmer than sleeping in just one sleeping bag.  The problem is that it is that very difficult to know exactly how much warmer the bags will be once combined, especially because the insulation can get compressed and won’t trap heat as well.  You could end up freezing in the doubled bags. Or you could end up hot and sweaty. Both outcomes can be risky when camping in very cold weather. **Tip:** You can often find good deals on winter sleeping bags in [REI’s Outlet section](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Frei-garage) ## How Warm Will Two Sleeping Bags Will Be? The Math Formula You can use this math equation to get an approximate idea of how warm two sleeping bags will be once nested together: **(x– ((70-y)/2) = z** Where: - x = comfort level rating of warmer bag in F - y = comfort level rating of colder bag in F - z = new comfort level rating of combined bags For example, let’s say you nest a 30F bag and a 50F bag: 30-((70-50)/2) 30-(20/2) 30-(10) = 20F Based on the formula, combining these two sleeping bags would keep you comfortable down to 20F. ### The Logic Behind the Math Even though this equation is floating all around backpacking forums, no one seems to know where it originated.  The 70 in the equation likely is our comfort level in pajamas.  The rest likely has to do with how well sleeping bags retain heat across layers of insulation. ### Don’t Rely on the Double-Bag Formula! The formula can usually give you a good idea of how warm your nested sleeping bags will be. For example, this camper [said](https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/50602/) that 15F + 35F bags keep him comfortable at zero degrees – which is pretty close to what the formula predicts. **However, no math equation can accurately tell you how warm two nested sleeping bags will be!** There are simply too many variables, such as: - How much the insulation gets compressed - Personal comfort level - Air gaps - Breathability of the nested bags For example, David Freeman wrote that he uses a 15 degree down bag with a 40 degree synthetic bag when camping at -30 degrees F.  According to the double-bag formula though, this should only keep him comfortable at 0F.   He’s obviously a warm sleeper. By contrast, his wife needs the 15 degree bag with a -10 bag at -30F.   According to the formula, this setup should keep her warm at -37.5F.  There’s a huge comfort difference between -30 and -37.5F!!! ## Which Sleeping Bag Should Go on the Outside? When combining two sleeping bags, you generally want to put the ***thinner bag on the inside****.*  The reason is because sleeping bag insulation doesn’t trap heat well if it is compressed.  You want your nested sleeping bags to have the most loft (aka fluffiness) possible. Some backpackers even recommend testing this out: - Open the sleeping bags up. - Layer one on top of the other. - Measure how many inches of loft you get. - Now layer the other bag on top and measure the loft. - Whichever setup gives you the most loft is best. ### Down or Synthetic Bag On the Inside? If using a down and a synthetic sleeping bag together, then ***the down sleeping bag should be on the inside.*** Even if the down bag is thicker, this setup is better for moisture control: putting the synthetic bag on the outside helps keep your down bag dry. **Your body produces a lot of water vapor.**  This water vapor will travel outwards through your sleeping bag until it reaches a temperature where it condenses into water – which will likely be at the outermost layer of your sleep setup. You do *not* want it to condense into water in your down sleeping bag!  Synthetic bags can handle getting wet better, which is why it’s better that the dew point forms in the synthetic bag.   Also, if condensation starts dripping in your tent, it’s better to drip on your synthetic bag than the down bag. Of course there are exceptions to this rule.  If you are using a vapor barrier liner, then it won’t matter much.  If your synthetic sleeping bag is very heavy, then you wouldn’t want it on top where it would compress the down… [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/frost-on-sleeping-bag.jpg "frost on sleeping bag - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/frost-on-sleeping-bag.jpg)Look at all the frost which formed on the outside of this sleeping bag ## The Breathability Problem of Using Two Sleeping Bags Another potential issue with combining two sleeping bags is that you lose breathability.  The setup ends up hot and stuffy. The compressed sleeping bags trap your sweat, meaning you end up wet.  Next thing you know, you are freezing cold because of evaporative heat loss. For this reason, a lot of backpackers will actually drape the second sleeping bag over the first.  Or unzip it almost all the way and only nest the foot area.  This setup does create huge air gaps, but at least you don’t lose breathability. ## Test Before You Go! If you are car camping and can bring (lots of!) spare blankets and layers in case you end up cold, then it’s probably fine to risk sleeping in your two-bag setup.  But, if you are backpacking in the middle of nowhere, it could be legitimately dangerous to rely on two sleeping bags. Ideally you would test out your system in your backyard.  Or rent a cabin somewhere and camp in front of it.  If you end up miserably cold, you can always retreat into the cabin. Definitely don’t test out the two-bag system on multi-night trips. And, at the very least, make sure you have an exit plan in case things go badly. --- ###### Sources: <https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/50602/>, <https://www.reddit.com/r/CampingGear/comments/6q7hy9/using_two_sleeping_bags_nested_in_one_another_is/>, <https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/5pludi/adding_sleeping_bag_warmth_together/>, **<https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/89063/>, <https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/101595/>, <https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/56548/>, <https://bwca.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=forum.thread&threadId=550994&forumID=15&confID=1> Image credit: “[Hot and Cold](https://www.flickr.com/photos/zachd1_618/23395500872/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Zach Dischner](https://www.flickr.com/people/zachd1_618/), “[Tips for Winter Camping.](https://www.flickr.com/photos/vastateparksstaff/45948115345/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [vastateparksstaff](https://www.flickr.com/people/vastateparksstaff/)** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** cold, sleeping bags, winter --- ### [Top 3 LifeStraw Alternatives](https://momgoescamping.com/lifestraw-alternatives/) **Published:** September 18, 2019 **Author:** Diane **Content:** As cool as the LifeStraw water filter is, I personally don’t like it one bit. As I ranted about [here](https://momgoescamping.com/lifestraw-water-filter-backpacking/), there are all sorts of issues with the LifeStraw filter – the main one being that there is no way to collect filtered water and take it with you. Luckily, there are a lot of great LifeStraw alternatives.  All of the water filters below work in a similar way to the LifeStraw, but are much more practical to use when camping, hiking, or backpacking. **Need to learn more about water treatment? See this [comparison of the best backpacking water filters and purifiers](https://momgoescamping.com/best-backpacking-water-filters-purifiers/).** ## 1. Sawyer Mini Water Filter ![tips for sawyer mini](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/sawyer-mini-tips.jpg "sawyer-mini-tips - Mom Goes Camping") **Verdict:** Great budget pick, especially because you never have to buy replacement filters - **Ways to use:** Straw, on bottle, squeeze - **Filter:** 0.1 micron - **Removes:** Bacteria, protozoa - **Weighs:** 2oz - **Buy at: [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F890900%2Fsawyer-mini-water-filter), [Amazon](https://amzn.to/2NFIku6)** The Sawyer Mini is similar to the LifeStraw in that it can be used as a straw. However, you can also screw it onto a bottle or a pouch. That allows you to take dirty water with you. You can drink directly from the bottle/pouch, or squeeze it to get clean water for cooking. I’ve been using the Sawyer Mini for about 6 years now.  The SAME Sawyer Mini.  Because it uses a hollow-fiber filter to trap contaminants, it can be used forever.  No buying replacement filters ever!!! After 4 years, I did have to change the O-ring on the filter.  But that’s it. The Sawyer Mini is far from perfect. It has a very slow flow rate, doesn’t remove bad tastes, and will be ruined if it gets frozen. But, it is very cheap  and much more practical than the LifeStraw. --- ## 2. [Survival Filter Pro](https://amzn.to/2ZLkT4S) ![survival filter pro](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/survival-filter-pro.jpg "survival filter pro - Mom Goes Camping") **Verdict:** Affordable filter that removes almost everything, but slow and heavy - **Ways to use:** Pump - **Filter:** 0.1 micron + activated carbon + 0.01 micron - **Removes:** Bacteria, protozoa, heavy metals, chemicals, viruses - **Weighs:** 12.8oz - **Buy at: [Amazon](https://amzn.to/2ZLkT4S)** The Survival Filter Pro was designed for disaster preparedness (hence the cheesy name), but it is also suitable for outdoors, especially in areas where the water might be extra sketchy. The filter uses a 3-part filtration system. The first filter is a 0.1 micron pre-filter. It has a lifespan of 100,000 liters. The second layer is activated carbon and only has a lifespan of about 2,000 liters.  You can remove this filter from the system and it will still work, just won’t remove bad tastes and chemicals.  The final filter is 0.01 micron, so removes viruses. It is effective to 100,000 liters. The combination of these three filters means the Survival Filter Pro system removes  almost everything you might find in contaminatedwater. It’s easy to use and pumping iseasier than squeezing (though they also make a squeeze-type filter akin to the Sawyer Mini which you can see [here](https://amzn.to/2ZFnld7)). The major downsides are that this filter is heavy at 12.8oz and bulky.  The plastic casing is pretty crappy.  I can imagine it breaking easily while in the backcountry.  It also is VERY SLOW.  The flow rate (because of the 0.01 micron filter layer) is just 500ml per minute. --- ## 3. LifeStraw Squeeze ![Lifestraw flex](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/lifestraw-flex.jpg "lifestraw flex - Mom Goes Camping") **Verdict:** Faster than the Sawyer Mini, but needs replacing after 500 gallons - **Ways to use:** Straw, squeeze - **Filter:** 0.2 - **Removes:** Bacteria, protozoa - **Weighs:** 3.8oz - **Buy at: [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3yrdqz8), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dlifestraw%2Bpeak%2Bsqueeze)** This technically isn’t a LifeStraw alternative because it’s made by the same company.  But the Squeeze is much more versatile than the original LifeStraw. To use the Squeeze, you fill up the bottle with dirty water, screw on the filter, and then squeeze out clean water.  It can also be screwed onto plastic water bottles or put in water bladders. Basically, it works just like the Sawyer Mini. The difference between the LifeStraw Peak Squeeze and Sawyer Mini is that the Peak is faster. However, it is also heavier and only lasts for 500 gallons. --- ### **Guess what? Did you know that I wrote a book?** It’s all about what to eat while backpacking, including tons of information about backpacking nutrition, meal planning, and over 50 ultralight recipes you can make on a dehydrator.  [Learn more here](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/). ![backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/backpacking-dehydrator-recipes-ebook.jpg "backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook - Mom Goes Camping") ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** LifeStraw, Sawyer Mini, water filter --- ### [Solved: 6 Ways to Keep Kids from Losing their Mittens this Winter](https://momgoescamping.com/stop-kids-losing-mittens/) **Published:** October 30, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Buying mittens for my daughter each season used to be painful.  It’s not just because good mittens are expensive and she will probably just get one season out of them.  It was also because she’d lose at least one pair of those expensive mittens each season! Or at least she used to lose them.  Now I’m pretty diligent about lose-proofing her mittens.  There are six ways to do this. **Also read: [Best Waterproof Mittens for Kids (Which Actually Stay On)](https://momgoescamping.com/best-waterproof-stay-on-mittens-toddlers/)** ## 1. Mittens On a String Pretty much all of the gloves and mittens from my childhood had a string attaching them.  Apparently they are called idiot strings. 🙂 You run the string through the jacket sleeves so you can’t lose the mittens. This is what I do for my kids. It takes just a few minutes to sew a string to their mittens. **But a lot of daycares and schools don’t allow mittens with strings because of strangulation risk.** When I first heard about this rule (my kid’s daycare allows mitten strings), I couldn’t believe it. Apparently some daycares don’t even allow scarves.  Is this how far we’ve come in regards to safety?  Are shoelaces going to be outlawed next? I did some research and found one case of strangulation due to mitten strings. I’m not sure how a mitten string could strangle a kid: it goes around the *back* of the jacket so isn’t exposed or able to catch on anything.  Even if your child threads the mitten string around their neck, it still doesn’t go around the neck…. Even if you are willing to take this risk, you should check with your daycare/school before adding idiot strings to your kid’s mittens. ![mittens with idiot strings](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/mittens-with-idiot-strings.jpg "mittens with idiot strings - Mom Goes Camping")Mittens with idiot strings ## 2. Short Strings Sewn into Jacket Sleeves Some daycares allow mitten strings so long as they aren’t longer than 6 inches.  In this case, you can sew a short string to each mitten and sew the other end of the string into the jacket sleeve. Or, if you want to be able to dry or wash the mittens separately from the jacket, sew a button inside the sleeve and connect the string to this. It’s actually more comfortable for your kid this way since the string doesn’t go around their back. ## 3. Mitten Clips Clips are a super cheap way to keep your kids from losing mittens. There are a bunch [on Amazon](https://amzn.to/472vKL2) for under $10. It’s also easy to make them yourself from suspender clips. One issue is that **mitten clips make it hard to cinch the jacket sleeve over the mittens**.  That’s fine for when you are just going around town.  But, if your kid wants to play outside, the snow can get into the sleeves. A solution? Clip the mittens to your child’s *sweater* and then put the jacket over the mitts. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/diy-mitten-clipos.jpg "diy mitten clipos - Mom Goes Camping")Mitten clips are easy to make ## 4. Wrist Leashes A wrist leash goes around your wrist and attaches to the mittens or gloves.  Compared to mitten clips, leashes are more comfortable since there isn’t a cold metal clip which can contact the skin. Leashes also make it easier to put the jacket over the mittens to keep snow out.  You can also use leashes with elbow-length mittens, something which isn’t always possible or comfortable with mitten clips. The downside is that wrist leashes are usually made from stretchy elastic. It could come off your kids’ wrists (seriously, kids can find a way to lose anything!).  And, for leashes to work, the mittens must have an attachment point. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/windrider-kids-mittens-with-wrist-leashes.jpg "windrider kids mittens with wrist leashes - Mom Goes Camping")The [elbow length kids mittens by WindRider](https://amzn.to/47ttLj5) have built in wrist leashes ## 5. Fold-Over Sleeve Cuffs For toddlers and babies, I recommend getting a snow suit which has fold-over cuffs on the sleeves.  Then you don’t have to worry about putting mittens on their hands at all for errands. Do note that the cuffs usually don’t have any insulation in them. So, if your child is going to play in/touch snow, they should still wear mittens.  In this case, fold the cuffs *over* the mittens. This helps keep the mittens on so they don’t lose them. ![columbia snuggly bunny snow suit for babies and toddlers](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/columbia-bunny-snow-suit-for-babies-and-toddlers.jpg "columbia bunny snow suit for babies and toddlers - Mom Goes Camping")The Columbia Snuggly snow suit has fold over cuffs See my picks for [best toddler snow suits](https://momgoescamping.com/best-snow-suits-babies-toddlers/) here ## 6. Tape Them On As a last resort, just tape the mittens on. Seriously, check out [this picture](https://www.recordherald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/web1_DuctTapeKid.jpg). Use a strip of tape to connect the mittens to the sleeve, like a hinge, and your child won’t be able to lose them.  Or, if you have a kid who refuses to wear mittens, go ahead and tape all the way around their mitts so they can’t pull them off. And don’t worry about feeling stupid for sending your kids out with their mittens taped to their sleeves.  Other parents will understand! I’d avoid using duct tape though.  **Use [hockey shin guard tape](https://amzn.to/3QjGTQy) instead**.  It’s just as secure but is easier to remove without leaving any stick residue or damaging the fabric. --- ###### Image credits: “[Mitten clips from a pair of braces](https://www.flickr.com/photos/scary_mary/2003959910/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [scary\_mary](https://www.flickr.com/people/scary_mary/), “[Michael’s idiot mittens, 3-09](https://www.flickr.com/photos/joancharlotte/3343749127/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [JoanCharlotte](https://www.flickr.com/people/joancharlotte/) ###### Resources: <https://www.knittingparadise.com/threads/mitten-idiot-string.55422/>, <https://safety-recalls.org/cpsc-content-92-92117.html>, [https://www.cpsc.gov/Business–Manufacturing/Business-Education/Business-Guidance/Drawstrings-in-Childrens-Upper-Outerwear](https://www.cpsc.gov/Business--Manufacturing/Business-Education/Business-Guidance/Drawstrings-in-Childrens-Upper-Outerwear), <https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/scarf-ban-up-for-discussion-after-playground-choking-incident-1.2641951> ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear, Camping with Kids --- ### [Hiking Child Carriers: Soft Carrier vs. Framed Backpack Carrier](https://momgoescamping.com/soft-vs-frame-backpack-hiking-carrier/) **Published:** September 7, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Most children aren’t able to [complete hikes on their own](https://momgoescamping.com/how-far-can-kids-hike/) until they are around 3-4 years old.  So, if you want to go hiking with your baby or toddler, you will need a [good hiking stroller](https://momgoescamping.com/all-terrain-strollers-hiking/) or a carrier.  As far as carriers go, **the first thing to decide is whether you need a soft carrier or a framed backpack-style child carrier for hiking.** ## The short answer: For infants and young babies, a front-facing soft carrier is best for hiking; you’ll be able to constantly see your baby and easily access supplies in a pack you wear on your back.  Once your child gets to be around 1 year old, a framed carrier is much more comfortable for you *and* your child.  Framed child carriers usually are best for toddlers too.  However, if you are only going on short hikes and your toddler will be walking, a soft carrier is more practical to bring along as a backup in case your kid needs to be carried. ## Infants: Front-Facing Soft Hiking Carrier ![infant in front facing soft hiking carrier](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/6110505809_401fbc1bec_w.jpg "6110505809_401fbc1bec_w - Mom Goes Camping") Babies must be able to sit up on their own to go in a backpack hiking carrier.  So, until *at least* six months old, you will have to use a soft carrier for your baby.  Luckily, at this age, babies aren’t very heavy so weight distribution isn’t an issue. However, some soft infant carriers are better than others for hiking. ### Ring Slings: Not recommended Ring slings are generally not a good choice for hiking for many reasons.  First off, they are HOT for you and your baby. Because they are only worn over one shoulder, so you aren’t very balanced.  And, while you can roll up the tail as a neck support, it doesn’t provide great support for babies when you are on bumpy terrain.  The fabric can limit your arm motion, which isn’t great in situations where you need to use trekking poles – which you probably should be using ([here’s why](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-poles-pros-cons/)). ### Wraps: Not recommended Baby wraps can work for hiking, but generally get too hot for both you and your baby.  Depending on the wrap style, it can also be difficult to wear a backpack with the wrap on. As with ring slings, many wraps limit your shoulder motion and make it difficult to use trekking poles properly. ### Meh Dai/Mei Tai: Recommended I used one of these for hiking with my baby and was mostly happy with it. While it does take some practice to use, the carrier distributes weight well and is highly adjustable for different sizes of babies and parents.  I also like that it isn’t too bulky. Honestly, a soft structured carrier would have been better for hiking, but I already had the mei tai (which I was using for everyday life) and didn’t want to buy a separate hiking carrier. So, it was “good enough.” The downside is that the long straps drag on the ground when putting it on – not ideal when hiking in muddy areas or snow. ### Soft Structured Carrier: Recommended These carriers include brands like ErgoBaby and BabyBjorn.  They have wide waist bands and adjustable buckles to all you to carry a baby in multiple positions.  While they are bulky and pricy, they are good at distributing weight.   I also feel they do a better job of supporting the baby’s head. --- ## 6-9 Months: Soft Structured Hiking Carrier ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/8-month-baby-in-soft-carrier.jpg "8 month baby in soft carrier - Mom Goes Camping")*8 month baby in a front facing soft carrier* **While most babies *can* go into a backpack hiking carrier at this age, a soft structured carrier is probably the better option.**   The main reason is because 6-9 month old babies still sleep a lot.  Even though good backpack carriers have built-in pillows/chin rests, your baby’s head will still sit weirdly in the carrier.  If the trail is rough, their little head will probably bounce around a bit too. Personally, I also found it easier to use a front carrier at this age than a backpack carrier.  It’s easier to check on the baby – especially if you want to catch poops early so it doesn’t leak out of the diaper (carriers inevitably push on the crotch and make diaper leaks more likely).  Breastfeeding is also a lot easier when you don’t have to completely remove a backpack carrier and take your fussy child out of it, and then get them back in. Because your child is starting to get a bit heavier at this age, a soft structured carrier is probably the best option for hiking.  However, you can still get away with using a mei tai carrier. --- ## 9-18 Months: Framed Backpack Carrier ![framed backpack hiking carrier for 1 year old](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/hiking-carrier.jpg "hiking carrier - Mom Goes Camping")*The Deuter Kid Comfort hiking carrier Get it [here at Amazon](https://amzn.to/333nPxv) or [here at REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DDeuter%2BKid%2BComfort)* If you are going to go on any serious hikes or hike frequently, you’ll absolutely want a framed backpack carrier at this age.  Yes, you could get by with a soft carrier at this age/weight, but the framed backpack carriers do a much better job of distributing weight and helping you stay balanced.   They will save your back a lot of strain! Backpack hiking carriers are also more comfortable for your child at this age.  There are feet stirrups on the carrier so your child has somewhere to put their legs while hiking.  Otherwise, their legs will dangle – potentially kicking your sides – and their crotch gets jammed into carrier in an uncomfortable way. The downsides of a framed hiking carrier is that they are bulky. You won’t be able to use them for everyday tasks, like going to the grocery store. Also, all the storage (aside from maybe a hip belt pocket) is at the back.  If you want to reach anything from the pack, you’ll have to ask a partner or completely remove the pack.  I highly recommend getting a backpack carrier with a water bladder compartment so you can at least get a drink without having to remove the carrier each time. **Tip:** You can sometimes find really good deals on child carrier backpacks and other outdoor baby gear at [REI’s Online Outlet](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Frei-garage). --- ## 18+ Months: It Depends on How You Hike… Here’s where the choice of a soft vs. framed child carrier gets complicated.  At around this age, toddlers become less willing to sit in a carrier for an entire hike.  They will want to walk around on their own, but you’ll probably end up carrying them for at least part of the hike. Kids also start getting very heavy at this age.  A soft carrier doesn’t do a good job of distributing the weight, so your back can start hurting very quickly. But backpack carriers are heavy in their own right, which is an issue for petite women like myself. **My recommendation for this age is:** - **Soft carrier for short hikes:** You can let your child walk most of the hike themselves. The soft carrier is small enough to go in your pack and take out when your child needs a break. - **Backpack carrier for serious hikes:** This is the only way you can realistically carry a toddler for longer hikes or on rough terrain. A soft carrier just won’t give the support needed; they get uncomfortable quickly! - **Hiking stroller for heavy children:** Be realistic – do you really think you can carry your 30+lb toddler plus gear for a long hike? It might make sense to stick to stroller-friendly hikes until your child gets a bit older and can complete more of the hike on their own. [![TrailMagik carrier](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/trailmagik-lightweight-carrier.jpg "trailmagik lightweight carrier - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/trailmagik-lightweight-carrier.jpg)The brand [TrailMagik](https://momgoescamping.com/trail-magik) makes a soft carrier for backpacking It  attaches to your backpack which means it is  much smaller and lighter than most other hiking carriers![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/backup-soft-carrier.jpg "backup soft carrier - Mom Goes Camping")*Soft carrier being used as a backup for when this toddler got too tired to walk*![diane vukovic](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/diane-and-lidija-hiking-carrier.jpg "diane and lidija hiking carrier - Mom Goes Camping")*My two year old excited for a hike in her framed backpack carrier* **Recommendations:** - **Soft carriers:** I recommend the [ErgoBaby 360 Omni Cool Air](https://amzn.to/2Z4grk4). - **Lightweight carrier:** The [TrailMagik carrier](https://momgoescamping.com/trail-magik) attaches to your backpack, which means it doesn’t need to have its own hip belt and saves you a lot of weight and space. - **Frame backpack carriers:** The Deuter Kid Comfort and Osprey Poco are great. They are available here [at REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dhiking%2Bcarriers). - **Petite women:** The Deuter KC Active SL version is made for women.  Get it here at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/31YufPd) or here at [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Ddeuter%2Bkids%2Bcarriers) **Also read:** - [Tips for Using a Backpack Child Carrier](https://momgoescamping.com/tips-child-hiking-carriers/) - [Stroller vs. Carrier for Hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/stroller-vs-hiking-carrier/) - [Best Hiking Carriers for Petite Women](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-child-carrier-petite-women/) --- ###### Resources: <https://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/forums/kids-to-go/topics/frame-backpack-or-soft-carrier-for-toddler> https://hikeitbaby.com/blog/why-you-need-a-new-carrier/ <https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/backpack-carriers/buying-guide/index.htm> [https://www.cpsc.gov/Business–Manufacturing/Business-Education/Business-Guidance/Frame-Child-Carriers](https://www.cpsc.gov/Business--Manufacturing/Business-Education/Business-Guidance/Frame-Child-Carriers) https://drkevinpauza.com/baby-carriers-and-their-effect-on-the-back/ Image credits: “[Shannon Lake hike](https://www.flickr.com/photos/santheo/6110505809/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [santheo](https://www.flickr.com/people/santheo/), “[05.29.10 149/365](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nineminutes/4650834119/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [nineminutes](https://www.flickr.com/people/nineminutes/), “[Papa and Baby](https://www.flickr.com/photos/tgilbers/2440946735/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [tgilbers](https://www.flickr.com/people/tgilbers/), “[Daddy pose](https://www.flickr.com/photos/vasile23/10356685444/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [vasile23](https://www.flickr.com/people/vasile23/), “[On the road again 🙂](https://www.flickr.com/photos/vasile23/9130033508/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [vasile23](https://www.flickr.com/people/vasile23/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking **Tags:** babies, carriers, toddlers --- ### [Figure Out How Much Water to Bring Hiking in 5 Simple Steps](https://momgoescamping.com/how-much-water-to-bring-hiking/) **Published:** April 13, 2016 **Author:** Diane **Content:** ### How Much Water to Bring Hiking: A Complete Guide  *Last Updated on 09/2025 by [Mom Goes Camping](#author-bio)* After hundreds of family hiking adventures—from desert trails in Arizona to mountain paths in the Rockies—I’ve learned that getting your water planning right can make or break a hike. Too little water leads to cranky kids and safety concerns. Too much water means you’re lugging unnecessary weight up the trail. The most important thing to bring with you hiking (aside from your wits) is water. But how much water should you bring hiking? On one hand, you want to make sure you’ve got enough water to stay hydrated for the trip. On the other hand, you don’t want to bring too much because water is so heavy to carry. Here’s how you can calculate how much water you will really need for your hike, based on real-world family hiking experience. ## The Quick Answer: - **Adults:** 2 cups (16 oz) of water per hour of moderate hiking - **Children:** 1-2 cups per hour of hiking - **Hot weather:** Double these amounts - **High altitude:** Add 25% more - **Strenuous terrain:** Add 50% more **Golden rule:** It’s always better to carry a little extra water than to run out on the trail. For your first few hikes, I recommend bringing 25% more than you calculate. ## My 5-Step Water Calculation Method After years of hiking with my family and sometimes getting it wrong (like the time we ran out of water 2 miles from the car!), I’ve developed this foolproof method: ### Step 1: Calculate Your Actual Hiking Time If you’ve never been hiking before, this can be a bit tricky. Here’s what I’ve learned from hiking with everyone from toddlers to grandparents: | Hiker Type | Average Speed | Notes from Experience | |---|---|---| | **Fit Adults (solo)** | 2-3 mph | On well-maintained trails | | **Average Adults** | 1.5-2.5 mph | Add time for photo stops! | | **Families with Kids (5-12)** | 1-2 mph | Lots of “are we there yet?” breaks | | **With Toddlers** | 0.5-1 mph | Every stick and rock needs investigation | | **Steep/Technical Terrain** | 0.5-1.5 mph | Reduce speed by 50% | **Pro tip:** Trail guides usually list estimated times, but be honest about your group’s abilities. I’ve learned it’s better to overestimate time than to be caught rushing back in the dark. Also read: [How long to complete a hike](https://momgoescamping.com/how-long-complete-hike/) ### Step 2: Apply the Base Water Formula Here’s the foundation I use for all my hike planning: #### Base Water Requirements: - **Adults:** 2 cups (16 oz or ~500ml) per hour of hiking - **Children (5-12 years):** 1.5 cups (12 oz) per hour - **Teenagers:** 2 cups per hour (same as adults) - **Toddlers:** 1 cup per hour (plus extra for spills!) So if you calculate that your hike will be 4 hours, you’d need at least 8 cups (64 oz or about 2 liters) per adult. But wait—we’re not done calculating yet! *\*I use the “cups per hour” approach rather than “cups per mile” because terrain difficulty affects time more than distance. A mile on flat ground takes 20 minutes; a mile straight uphill can take an hour.* ### Step 3: Factor in Environmental Conditions This is where many hikers go wrong. I’ve made this mistake myself, and trust me, you don’t want to be caught short on a hot day. #### Temperature Adjustments: | Condition | Temperature Range | Water Multiplier | |---|---|---| | **Cool Weather** | Below 60°F (15°C) | Use base amount | | **Moderate Weather** | 60-75°F (15-24°C) | Base amount + 25% | | **Hot Weather** | 75-85°F (24-29°C) | Double the base amount | | **Very Hot** | Above 85°F (29°C) | Triple the base amount | #### Other Environmental Factors: - **High Altitude (above 8,000 feet):** Add 25% more water due to increased respiration - **High Humidity:** Add 20% more (sweat doesn’t evaporate as efficiently) - **Windy Conditions:** Add 15% more (increased dehydration) - **Direct Sun/No Shade:** Add 25% more ### Step 4: Account for Water Sources (or Lack Thereof) This is where having the right gear makes all the difference. I always plan my family hikes around water sources when possible because water is heavy—especially when you’re carrying gear for kids too. ![Family taking a water break during a hike, using Sawyer Mini water filter](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/water-break-during-hike-with-sawyer-mini.jpg) #### If There’s a Reliable Water Source: I use a [Sawyer Mini](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FA2RLX2/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00FA2RLX2&linkId=de078101d9a408b50c9290a2685ca28c) water filter, which has been a game-changer for family hiking. With a reliable water source, you only need to carry water until your first refill point. **Important:** “Reliable” means the water source flows year-round. I’ve been caught before when a stream marked on the map had dried up for the season. Always check recent trail reports! #### What Water Treatment Do You Need? Based on my research and experience in different regions: - **Backcountry streams/lakes:** Filter for bacteria and protozoa (Sawyer Mini works great) - **Areas with agricultural runoff:** Need activated carbon filter like [Travel Berkey](https://www.bigberkeywaterfilters.com/travel-berkey-water-filter.html) - **International hiking:** Consider virus protection (UV sterilizer or purification tablets) Not sure what type of water filter you need? Read: [Types of Hiking Water Filters and What They Treat](https://momgoescamping.com/best-backpacking-water-filters-purifiers/) #### If There’s No Water Source: Carry everything you need for the entire hike. This is where water planning becomes critical for weight management. ### Step 5: Add Your Personal “Thirstiness Factor” Everyone’s different, and I’ve learned this the hard way. I drink A LOT of water—way more than the averages. On my last hike with my daughter, I emptied our 2-liter water bladder in under 2 hours, and it wasn’t even that hot! #### Know Your Family’s Drinking Patterns: - **Heavy drinkers (like me):** Add 50% to calculations - **Light drinkers:** Still use full calculations—dehydration sneaks up fast - **Kids:** They often forget to drink, so you might use less—but always carry extra - **First-time hikers:** Double your calculations until you know your needs ## Real-World Water Planning Examples Let me show you how this works with actual scenarios from my hiking experience: #### Scenario 1: Easy Family Hike - **Hike:** 3-mile loop, 2 hours, 70°F, reliable stream at mile 1.5 - **Family:** 2 adults, 1 child (8 years old) - **Calculation:** - Adults: 2 cups/hour × 2 hours × 1.25 (moderate weather) = 5 cups each - Child: 1.5 cups/hour × 2 hours × 1.25 = 3.75 cups - Total: 13.75 cups (about 3.5 liters) - **With stream refill:** Carry 7 cups to stream, refill for return #### Scenario 2: Hot Desert Hike - **Hike:** 5 miles, 4 hours, 90°F, no water sources - **Family:** 2 adults - **Calculation:** - Base: 2 cups/hour × 4 hours = 8 cups each - Hot weather multiplier: 8 × 3 = 24 cups each - Safety buffer: 24 × 1.25 = 30 cups each - **Total:** 60 cups (15 liters!) for two people *This is why I avoid long, hot hikes without water sources—the weight becomes unmanageable!* ## Expert Water Tips from Years of Family Hiking ### Before You Hit the Trail: - **Hydrate the night before:** Start your hike already well-hydrated - **Drink a big glass before starting:** Get a head start while you still have plumbing nearby! - **Check your urine color:** Pale yellow means you’re good to go ### During the Hike: - **Sip regularly:** If you feel thirsty, you’re already behind. I take 2-3 sips every 15 minutes - **Drink more going uphill:** You’re working harder and breathing heavier - **Don’t wait for breaks:** Drink while walking ### Gear Recommendations That Work: #### For Families with Kids: - **Water bladders over bottles:** [Platypus water bladders](https://amzn.to/3WLBOpf) are spill-proof and take abuse - **Multiple smaller containers:** Easier for kids to handle - **Backup bottles:** Kids will drop things #### For Cold Weather Hiking: - **Insulated bottles:** Fill with hot water at the start - **Wide-mouth bottles:** Easier to drink with gloves - **Keep bottles close to your body:** Prevent freezing Read more about [water bottles for cold weather](https://momgoescamping.com/water-bottles-insulators-winter/) here. ## Red Flags: When You Need More Water Watch for these signs that your water planning was insufficient: - Dark yellow urine - Headache or dizziness - Fatigue beyond normal hiking tiredness - Dry mouth or sticky saliva - Irritability (especially in kids) **If you see these signs:** Stop, rest in shade, and drink water immediately. Don’t push on hoping it gets better. ## Common Water Planning Mistakes I’ve Made (So You Don’t Have To) 1. **Underestimating kid needs:** They dehydrate faster than adults 2. **Forgetting about elevation:** You need more water at altitude 3. **Ignoring humidity:** Sweaty clothes = more water loss 4. **Not accounting for getting lost:** Always carry 25% extra 5. **Sharing water bottles:** Spreads germs and makes tracking consumption impossible ## Quick Water Calculation Worksheet ### Your Hike Water Calculator: 1. **Estimated hike time:** \_\_\_\_\_ hours 2. **Base water needed:** \_\_\_\_\_ people × 2 cups/hour × \_\_\_\_\_ hours = \_\_\_\_\_ cups 3. **Weather adjustment:** \_\_\_\_\_ cups × \_\_\_\_\_ (weather multiplier) = \_\_\_\_\_ cups 4. **Personal factor:** \_\_\_\_\_ cups × \_\_\_\_\_ (1.0-1.5) = \_\_\_\_\_ cups 5. **Safety buffer:** \_\_\_\_\_ cups × 1.25 = \_\_\_\_\_ cups total needed 6. **Water source available?** If yes, divide by refill points ## The Bottom Line After hundreds of family hikes, here’s what I’ve learned: it’s better to carry a little extra water than to spend your hike worrying about running out. Water weighs about 2 pounds per liter, so yes, it’s heavy. But dehydration ruins hikes and can be dangerous. Start conservative with your water planning. Track how much you actually drink on different types of hikes. After a few trips, you’ll dial in exactly what your family needs. Remember: proper hydration isn’t just about quantity—it’s about starting hydrated, drinking regularly, and paying attention to your body’s signals. Happy trails! ### Need More Outdoor Meal Ideas? Not sure what to eat while outdoors? I’ve written an eBook with over 50 dehydrator trail recipes, plus tons of advice on meal planning for backpacking trips. Learn more [here](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/). Or [buy it now](https://gum.co/gourmetasheck?wanted=true). ![Variety of dehydrated backpacking meals](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/backpacking-meals.jpg) ### About Mom Goes Camping I’m a mom who’s been hiking and camping with my family for over a decade. Through hundreds of adventures—from weekend nature walks to multi-day backpacking trips—I’ve learned what works (and what doesn’t) when it comes to getting families safely and happily into the outdoors. My goal is to share practical, tested advice that helps other families create amazing outdoor memories. *Image credit: “[A Rainbow of Nalgene](https://www.flickr.com/photos/irisphotos/5834080414/)” ([CC BY-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/2.0/)) by [iriskh](https://www.flickr.com/people/irisphotos/)* ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking **Tags:** hiking, planning, water --- ### [How Many Layers of Clothing to Wear?  The 3-Layering System Explained](https://momgoescamping.com/3-layers-clothing-system/) **Published:** January 1, 2025 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Layering clothes is the best way to stay warm and dry in bad weather.  When done correctly, these same layers can keep you comfortable in a variety of temperatures and activity levels.  Here’s how it works. ## How Many Layers to Wear? You should wear three layers of clothing in bad weather. They are: 1. Base layer for moisture control 2. Mid layer for insulation 3. Shell layer for weather protection In really cold weather, you might wear *two* mid layers for extra insulation.  Or, in milder weather, you might skip a mid layer on your arms and legs as these don’t need as much heat as the core. However, it’s not just the *number* of layers which matters.  For each layer to do its job, the material is important. [![three layer clothing system](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/three-layer-clothing-system.jpg "three layer clothing system - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/three-layer-clothing-system.jpg) ### Base Layer = Moisture Control The base is a thin layer which fits snuggly against the skin. Its main purpose is to wicks moisture (such as from sweat) away from your body. Wicking is important for staying warm: if you are wet, then your body will lose heat from evaporative heat loss. [Wool is considered the best base layer material](https://momgoescamping.com/merino-wool-base-layers-women/) because it has amazing wicking properties and still traps heat when wet. There are many “performance” synthetic materials which also have good wicking properties. Cotton and bamboo materials are terrible for base layers because they absorb moisture.  This is where the phrase “cotton kills” comes from. **Also read:** - [Can you wear cotton hiking?](https://momgoescamping.com/is-it-okay-to-wear-cotton-hiking/) - [Is Merino wool worth it?](https://momgoescamping.com/is-merino-wool-worth-it/) - [My favourite base layer!](https://amzn.to/4hH9oDw) [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/kari-traa-base-layers.jpg "kari traa base layers - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/kari-traa-base-layers.jpg)*My Merino base layer bottoms underneath my unzipped shell pants*![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/synthetic-base-layers.jpg "synthetic base layers - Mom Goes Camping")*My daughter and I in our synthetic base layer tops*  --- ### Mid Layer = Insulation Also called the insulating layer, the mid layer is what traps heats.  To trap heat, the mid layer needs to be made out of a fluffy material with lots of air pockets.  A good mid layer will also be breathable and have some wicking properties too. Wool, fleece, down, and synthetic “puffers” are all good materials for mid layers. Because the arms don’t require as much heat as the core, a lot of mid layer jackets have less insulation in the arms. You might also opt for a vest instead of a jacket as your mid layer top. Likewise, the legs don’t require as much insulation so many people skip a mid layer bottom when hiking or skiing. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/mid-layer-vest.jpg "mid layer vest - Mom Goes Camping")*Putting on a puffy vest as the mid layer* --- ### Shell Layer = Weather Protection The shell layer protects you from the elements, such as rain and snow. Without the shell, the mid layer would get wet and not be able to do its job.  The shell also protects against wind so heat isn’t blown off the body. **Shell layers are usually broken down into two types: soft shell and hard shell.** - **Soft Shell:** These are usually made from a water-*resistant* and somewhat windproof material. While they don’t completely protect from the elements, the material is more breathable.  This is preferable when doing strenuous activity such as hiking or skiing. - **Hard Shell:** These are made from completely waterproof materials. The tradeoff is that the materials aren’t breathable, so you can start to sweat in them (which in turn can make you feel cold).  Hard shells are best used in very harsh weather conditions and/or when you aren’t doing strenuous physical activity. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/baby-playing-in-mud.jpg "baby playing in mud - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/baby-playing-in-mud.jpg)*My daughter definitely got a hard shell suit for playing on the wet muddy ground Also read [Best Rain Suits for Babies](https://momgoescamping.com/baby-rain-suits/)* **Really good shells have “vents” in them so you can release heat.** ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/vents-in-shell-jacket.jpg "vents in shell jacket - Mom Goes Camping")Armpit vent in shell jacket![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/two-way-zip-in-shell-pants-for-venting.jpg "two way zip in shell pants for venting - Mom Goes Camping")The two way zipper on these shell pants mean I can open them up for venting --- ## Adjusting Layers for the Temperature I have at least 10 different base layers and just as many mid layers, plus a few shell jackets and shell pants.  **Having all these options allows me to mix and match layers to get the perfect system for the weather conditions.** For example, when hiking in mild weather, I will choose my thinnest base layer top and a thin mid layer. I bring a rain jacket as a shell to put on in case the weather turns bad. When it’s colder, I’ll choose one of my midweight base and ligthweight mid layers and pair it with one of my soft shell jackets.  In really cold weather, I put on a heavyweight wool base layer and thick wool hoodie as my mid. **The image below shows how you can mix and match layers to get the perfect comfort level.** [![three layering clothing system](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/three-layering-systems-2.jpg "three layering systems 2 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/three-layering-systems-2.jpg) ### Using the Same Base Layer and Shell with Different Mid Layers Not everyone wants to buy a zillion different pieces of clothing for each layer.  Luckily, you don’t have to. **You only really need:** - One base layer - Three mid layers (thin, medium and thicker insulation) - One shell **With just these 5 pieces, you can make multiple layering combinations to cover almost all weather conditions.**   Since mid layers are cheap and easy to find in secondhand stores (your grandma’s wool sweater will work just fine!), creating this layering system doesn’t even have to be expensive. The image below shows how you can adjust the mid layer to get three levels of temperature protection.  You could even use some of the mid layers together (like wearing the vest underneath the down jacket) to get even more adjustment. [![same base and shell 3 weather conditions](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/same-base-and-shell-3-weather-conditions.jpg "same base and shell 3 weather conditions - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/same-base-and-shell-3-weather-conditions.jpg) --- ## How to Wear Layers Properly Layering does NOT mean you should constantly be adding/removing layers to feel comfortable.  When done properly, you shouldn’t have to adjust your layers often or even at all. **Examples:** - **A morning hike:** It’s chilly in the morning, so you wear your base layer and mid layer. As the temperatures warm up, you remove the mid layer.  The shell layer stays in your pack in case the weather takes a turn for the worse. - **A strenuous fall hike:** The weather is chilly so you wear your base layer and mid layer. You quickly warm up from the physical activity so you unzip your mid layer or take it off completely. When you stop for breaks, you put the mid layer back on so your body doesn’t lose heat while resting. - **A hike in rainy but warm weather:** You wear the base layer and a soft shell jacket. There’s no need for the mid layer. - **A hike in cold, rainy weather:** You wear your base layer, the mid layer and a soft shell jacket to keep you dry.  A soft shell is a better choice because you would get sweaty wearing a hard shell. - **Camping in cold, rainy weather:** You wear your base layer, mid layer and a hard shell jacket. The hard shell is a better choice because you aren’t doing any strenuous activity which would make you sweat. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/all-three-layers.jpg "all three layers - Mom Goes Camping")*Its cold and windy at 6000ft Im done hiking for the day so not producing a lot of heat Im wearing all three layers on my core and two layers base + shell on my legs*[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/good-base-layers.jpg "base layers for winter camping - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/good-base-layers.jpg)*My heavyweight Merino wool base layer top was perfect for this strenous hike It was sweating like crazy  If it had been windy I would have needed my shell* ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/wearing-shell-in-rain.jpg "wearing shell in rain - Mom Goes Camping")*Its raining but warm so Im wearing just a shell layer over my base* ## Layering Applies to the Hands and Feet As Well! The 3-layer system also applies to keeping your hands and feet warm too.  Here’s how it looks. **Feet:** 1. Base layer = thin liner socks 2. Mid layer = thicker sock 3. Shell layer = boot/shoe In warm weather, a lot of people only wear one pair of socks.  However, since liner socks are wicking, [wearing two pairs of socks can do wonders at preventing blisters](https://momgoescamping.com/wear-two-pairs-socks-prevent-blisters-hiking/). **Hands:** 1. Base layer = thin liner glove 2. Mid layer = thicker glove or mitten 3. Shell layer = waterproof mitt No one wants to put three layers on their hands.  So, good mitts for *really* cold weather combine the mid and shell into one mitt. Some even incorporate a liner glove so you only have to put one mitt on. Also read: [Best Insulated Shell Mittens](https://momgoescamping.com/best-insulated-shell-mittens/) --- ## Want tons of camping info in PRINTABLE format? **Then you need my Camping Cheat Sheets.** The manual has 42 pages crammed with illustrated guides about everything from campfire cooking to wilderness first aid. [![camping cheat sheets](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/interior-pages.jpg "interior pages - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets/guylines) **And because you made it to the end of this post, I’ll even give you 50% off  😀** [**Get Your Copy for 50% Off Here**](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets/guylines) --- ###### Image credits: “[Mary deciding to put clothes on again](https://www.flickr.com/photos/msanseve/51813619049/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [M.E. Sanseverino](https://www.flickr.com/people/msanseve/), “[DSC\_0201](https://www.flickr.com/photos/77591574@N02/7446573720/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [GrejGuide.dk](https://www.flickr.com/people/77591574@N02/), ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking --- ### [Naturehike P-Series 4P Family Backpacking Tent Review](https://momgoescamping.com/naturehike-p-series-4p-tent-review/) **Published:** August 10, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** When my family goes backpacking, we usually bring two small lightweight tents. But recently we’ve been doing more car camping. So, I decided it was finally time to get a larger tent.  I wanted it to fit at least 3 of us comfortably, but still be light enough for backpacking, have lots of gear storage and be freestanding. Head room was a big concern for my husband. I ended up choosing the Naturehike P-Series 4 person tent .   I’ve since spent approximately 20 nights in the tent (including several in rain and two nights in sub-freezing weather).  Here’s what I think of it. **Also read: [Best Family Backpacking Tents](https://momgoescamping.com/family-backpacking-tents/)** ## Specs (P2, P3, P4): - **Weight:** 4.6lbs (2.1kg), 5lbs (2.3kg), 6.2lbs (2.8kg) - **Max headroom:** 39” (100cm), 43” (110cm), 51” (130cm) - **Sleeping area footprint:** 51×79”(130x200cm), 63×81” (160x205cm), 83×83” (210x210cm) - **Available at: [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3d6uVtE)** ## Quick Look The P-Series is a freestanding 2-layer tent meant for 3-season use. It’s made by Naturehike, a brand known for cheap ultralight tents.  It is available in 2P, 3P and 4P sizes. - **Main features:** Two doors, two vestibules - **Pros:** Affordable, lightweight for size, roomy, durable, easy setup - **Cons:** Door doesn’t unzip along the bottom, annoying to repack - **Best For:** Family backpacking *or* car camping with 2-3 adults. ## P-Series Tent Layout [![Naturehike P-Series tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/p-series-layout-sleep.jpg "p series layout sleep - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/p-series-layout-sleep.jpg) The thing I like best about the Naturehike P-Series is the layout.  It has a massive front door and vestibule which can be converted into an awning with two trekking poles.  The back door is smaller so a bit tricky for adults to get in/out of.  However, it’s great for accessing gear stored in its vestibule while you are inside the tent. ### 2P and 3P Layout The sleeping area footprint of the 2P version is 130x200cm and  with the 3P version it’s 160x205cm.   Because the sleeping area is rectangular, **you have to sleep with your head to the sides.**  With just two people in the tent, that *might* not be an issue because each person has their own door.  But, with three people, the middle person would have to crawl over the people on the sides to get out.  I personally also hate sleeping along the door – I’d rather crawl straight into the tent to lie down. Keep in mind that the back door is fairly small and best used for gear storage.  When pitch space was limited, I had to pitch it so the back door was against shrubbery – making it inaccessible from the outside. So, **even if you only have two people in the tent, the person in the back may still have to crawl over the person in the front to get out.** [![P-Series tent 2P and 3P layouts](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/p-series-2p-3p-layout.jpg "p series 2p 3p layout - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/p-series-2p-3p-layout.jpg) ### 4P Layout Unlike the 2P and 3P versions, the sleeping area footprint of Naturehike P4 is square (210x210cm).  This means you can sleep with your head towards the door *or* the sides. It’s much more versatile and can come in handy when pitching on tight spaces. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/p-series-tent-layout-different-ways.jpg "p series tent layout different ways - Mom Goes Camping")*You can sleep different directions in the 4P version*[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/p-series-inside-layout.jpg "p series inside layout - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/p-series-inside-layout.jpg)We ended up sleeping with our heads towards the back door ### Door Design Flaw! The only thing I really hate about the Naturehike P-Series is that **the door zipper doesn’t go along the bottom.**  I found this incredibly annoying. With a full zipper, you can unzip a bit along the bottom and side.   You end up with a C-shape opening which you can get in/out of easily.  Because the P-Series zipper only runs along the upper part of the door, you actually have to unzip it almost fully to get in out.  This takes longer so allows bugs inside. I hated this so much after the first trip that I planned on taking the tent to a cobbler to put in a new zipper.  This is *not* cheap to do! I didn’t get around to doing it by our next trip.  And, after the 10th night in the tent, I got used to the annoying zipper. [![Naturehike P-Series tent door](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/p-series-zipper-flaw.jpg "p series zipper flaw - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/p-series-zipper-flaw.jpg) ## Roominess Because I usually sleep in an ultralight 2P tent, the P-Series seemed like a palace.  The dome shape gives the tent good headroom. I could sit up easily and my 4 year old could stand up in the middle of the tent (made getting dressed inside much easier!).   The front vestibule is large enough for a dog and some gear. Some similar tents have an extra pole which runs on top of the dome to provide extra headspace. I personally am fine sacrificing headspace in exchange for one less pole. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/p-series-vs-cloudup.jpg "p series vs cloudup - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/p-series-vs-cloudup.jpg)*Look how much bigger the P4 is than my CloudUp 2P tent* ## Storage Another main feature of the Naturehike P-Series is that it has tons of storage.  The front vestibule is really massive.  Just the sides easily hold four pairs of boots and cookware without blocking the entrance. The back vestibule is smaller but fit my 55L pack.  It was a tight fit though.  The pack ended up sticking out a bit one night in the rain and got a bit wet. There are also two pockets and a lantern hook in the tent. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/p-series-back-door.jpg "p series back door - Mom Goes Camping")This is the back vestibule of the P4 Notice that my 55L pack sticks out a bit ## Naturehike P-Series Weight vs. Size The Naturehike P-Series 4P tent is listed as weighing 6.2lbs/2.8kg. This weight includes everything: guylines, stakes, bag….  You don’t actually need all of the stakes or guylines which come with the tent though, so you could shave off at least 50 grams.  The stakes are heavy, so you could save weight by swapping them for UL stakes. Divided between 3 adults, that breaks down to just 2lbs/930gper person. Even between two parents, the weight is still manageable. While isn’t exactly *ultralight,* it is very lightweight.  Bear in mind that there aren’t that many lightweight 4P tents available – and none at this price. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Naturehike-P-Series-weight.jpg "Naturehike P Series weight - Mom Goes Camping")I weighed it and my P Series 4P came in at 2873 grams  The tent had already been used a few times though so that extra weight might be dirt I picked up along the way 😀 The P2 and P3 versions also are lightweight.  However, there are a lot more options when it comes for light 2P and 3P tents.  If weight is your main concern, then another tent is probably better.  But, if you have lots of gear and need the two vestibules, then the P-Series is a good weight. ## Setup As a dome tent, the Naturehike P-Series is really easy to set up.  It uses clips, so you don’t have to worry about getting poles through annoying sleeves.  Just lay out the inner tent, cross the two poles and clip them in place.  Toss the rain fly over and clip it into place. Then just stake everything down. Then My husband times me: I was able to get the tent up by myself in under 6 minutes.   It took another 8 minutes to stake it down.  You’ll need *a minimum* of 8 stakes (four at the corners, two for each door vestibule). I also recommend staking out the two bottom vents on each side (which means 10 stakes).  In really bad weather, there are four more places you can stake out the tent – but I’ve never had to use them. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/p-series-setup-2.jpg "p series setup 2 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/p-series-setup-2.jpg)Putting up the P4 by myself[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/p-series-setup.jpg "p series setup - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/p-series-setup.jpg)Even a 4 year old can help get this tent up ## Packability Considering its size, the Naturehike P4 isn’t too bulky.  It was the same size as two self-inflating sleeping pads.  It’s incredibly annoying to repack in the carrying case (and I’m generally good that that!).  It would be easier if the carrying bag had a zipper instead of a drawstring opening.  The good news is that it’s easy to divide the tent between two packs – so you don’t necessarily have to get everything back into the carry bag. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/p-series-includes.jpg "p series includes - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/p-series-includes.jpg)Everything that comes with the Naturehike P4[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/p-series-size.jpg "p series size - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/p-series-size.jpg)The Naturehike P4 bottom two inflatable pads rolled up top ## Stability and Durability My P-Series has survived over 20 nights of family camping – and my kids definitely don’t treat tents gently.  I like that the floor is a proper bathtub and made from a thick material.  You don’t have to use a groundsheet with the P-Series tent. ## Weatherproofness For such an affordable brand, Naturehike tents do surprisingly well in rain.  The P-Series has a deep and thick bathtub floor, so there weren’t any issues with flooding.  I like that the side vents extend out quite far, creating a gap between the mesh and fly.  My daughter always ends up leaning on the tent wall while she sleeps, which causes condensation.  The gap between helped prevent this. I only had a few nights of rain in the tent and no serious wind.  But it seems sturdy enough that I’m not worried about using it in bad weather.  The extra space is wonderful when you’ve got tons of wet gear that you don’t want to bring in the tent! **Update:** I actually choose this tent for a backpacking trip in sub-freezing weather.  It is heavier than I’d normally bring backpacking, but the large size meant that my partner and I didn’t have to worry about getting wet from the inevitable tent condensation that forms in cold weather. ## Colors The P-Series comes in a lot of colors.  I spent an absurb amount of time deciding which color I wanted.  Ultimately, I went with blue because it would be calming to wake up to.  I also like that the blue is visible.  If you need to do stealth camping, then get the grey or green version. **Get the Naturehike P-Series Tent Here on [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3d6uVtE)** ## P-Series vs. Top Alternatives \[table id=67 /\] ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [How to Buy Your First Backpack for Outdoor Backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-buy-your-first-backpack/) **Published:** April 27, 2016 **Author:** Diane **Content:** If you want to go backpacking in the great outdoors, then a backpack is one of the most essential pieces of gear you need to have (duh; backpack is in the name! 🙂). After 15+ years of backpacking with my daughter and helping dozens of friends choose their first packs, I’ve learned that buying your first backpack can feel overwhelming. With hundreds of options and confusing technical specs, where do you even start? The good news? It all comes down to six key factors: volume, torso length, hip size, comfort, compartments, and extra features. I’ve tested over 20 different backpacks through the years – from budget options to premium models – and I’m going to share everything I’ve learned so you can get the perfect pack for your adventures without the costly mistakes I made early on. ## Why Your Backpack Choice Matters More Than You Think Here’s something most guides won’t tell you: choosing the wrong backpack can literally ruin your trip. I learned this the hard way during a 10-day wilderness adventure when my poorly-fitted pack caused severe shoulder pain by day three. We had to cut the trip short, and I couldn’t lift my arms above my head for a week afterward. A properly fitted backpack should feel like an extension of your body – you should barely notice it’s there, even when fully loaded. When you get it right, you’ll be able to hike longer distances comfortably and actually enjoy the experience instead of counting down the miles until you can take it off. ## Types of Backpacks: Understanding What You Really Need Let’s clarify what we’re talking about here – backpacks for trips where you’ll spend at least one night in the wilderness and carry ALL your gear. This means your pack needs room for your sleeping bag, food, clothes, tent, cook set, and safety essentials. **Day Packs (15-30 liters):** These smaller packs work for day trips only. I actually bring my daughter’s day pack on longer trips so we don’t have to carry our huge packs when exploring from base camp. **Travel Backpacks (30-50 liters):** Designed for hostel hopping and city travel. They often lack the external attachment points and durability features you need for wilderness backpacking. **Backpacking Backpacks (30-80+ liters):** This is what we’re focusing on – packs built for multi-day wilderness adventures with proper load-bearing systems and weather protection. ![old backpacks](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/diane-mom-backpack.jpg) ## Finding Your Perfect Backpack Volume: Lessons from Real Trips Backpack volume is measured in liters, and choosing the right size depends on your gear, trip length, and packing style. Here’s where experience trumps theory every time. My first adult backpack was a military surplus ALICE pack holding about 35 liters. I somehow crammed gear for both my daughter and me for a 10-day trip into that tiny space! We wore the same clothes multiple times and were definitely “aromatic” by the end, but it taught me valuable lessons about packing efficiently. ![ALICE backpack](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/alice-backpack-1024x1024.jpg) After years of testing different volumes on trips ranging from weekend overnights to two-week expeditions, here are my practical recommendations: ### Volume Guide Based on Real Experience | **Liters** | **Best For** | **My Notes** | |---|---|---| | 30-45 liters | 1-2 night trips, ultralight gear | Perfect for minimalists with high-quality compact gear | | 45-65 liters | 2-5 night trips, standard gear | Sweet spot for most backpackers – versatile and manageable | | 65-80 liters | 5+ night trips, winter camping | Great for longer adventures or when carrying group gear | | 80+ liters | Extended expeditions, specialized trips | Only needed for specific situations like winter mountaineering | **Pro Tip:** When in doubt, go bigger rather than smaller. I’ve never met a backpacker who regretted having extra space, but I’ve met plenty who struggled with packs that were too small. You can always compress a larger pack down, but you can’t magically create more room in a small one. If you’re trying to save weight, check out my guide to **budget [ultralight backpacks](https://momgoescamping.com/best-budget-ultralight-backpacks/)**. ## Torso Length: The Make-or-Break Factor As someone who’s 5’1″ tall, I cannot stress enough how critical proper torso fit is. This single factor determines whether you’ll enjoy your hike or suffer through it.          If you’re petite or have a shorter torso, you may want to browse options in [**backpacks for petite women**](https://momgoescamping.com/best-hiking-backpacks-petite-women/) to find better fits. The weight of your backpack should rest on your hips, not your shoulders. When the torso length is wrong: - **Too short:** Weight crushes your shoulders, causing pain and fatigue - **Too long:** Pack pulls you backward, affecting balance and stability ### How to Measure Your Torso Length Correctly You’ll need a friend to help with this measurement: 1. Tilt your head forward and feel for the most prominent bump at the base of your neck (C7 vertebra) 2. Find the top of your hip bones by placing your hands on your hips and feeling for the bony “shelf” (iliac crest) 3. Have your friend measure the distance between these two points **Torso Length Sizing:** - **Extra Small:** Up to 15.5 inches - **Small:** 16-17.5 inches - **Regular/Medium:** 18-19.5 inches - **Large/Tall:** 20+ inches **Critical Point:** Never buy a backpack online without measuring your torso length first. Your height doesn’t always correlate with torso length – I know tall people with short torsos and vice versa. ### Adjustable Torso Systems: Worth the Extra Weight? Modern adjustable torso systems are game-changers, especially for families. My current pack adjusts from small to large, meaning my daughter can use it as she grows, and my husband can borrow it too. Yes, adjustable systems add 4-8 ounces, but the versatility is worth it. ![adjustable torso length backpack](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/adjustable-torso-length-backpack-2-1024x1024.jpg) ## Hip Belt Sizing: Don’t Overlook This Detail While not as critical as torso length, hip belt fit still matters for comfort and load distribution. Measure around your waist at the top of your hip bones – not where your pants normally sit. Many quality backpacks now offer adjustable or interchangeable hip belts. For example, some manufacturers offer small, medium, and large hip belts that can be swapped based on the user. ![adjustable hip belt backpack](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/lutsen-55l.jpg) *Some packs like the Lutsen 55L feature adjustable hip belts for better fit* ## Comfort Features That Actually Matter After carrying backpacks for hundreds of miles, I’ve learned which comfort features are marketing gimmicks and which ones make a real difference. ### Back Panel Systems **Suspension Mesh Panels:** These hold the pack slightly off your back, creating airflow. Great for hot climates, but they can make the pack feel less stable on technical terrain. **Contoured Foam Padding:** Sits directly against your back with strategic padding. Less ventilation but better load transfer and stability. ![black diamond infinity 60 backpack](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/backpack-back-contoured.jpg) *The Black Diamond Infinity 60 features contoured back padding that hugs your spine but can get sweaty* ![backpack back panel](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/backpack-back-panel-straight-padding.jpg) ### Shoulder Strap Design Look for thick, contoured padding that distributes weight evenly. Women should specifically seek packs with shoulder straps designed for female anatomy – the difference in comfort is remarkable. ### Load Lifter Straps: The Unsung Heroes These short straps connect the top of your shoulder straps to the upper part of the pack. When properly adjusted (at about a 45-degree angle), they prevent the top of your pack from pulling away from your body. I’ve hiked with packs both with and without load lifters, and they make a huge difference in comfort on long days. ![load lifter straps](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/load-lifter-straps-1024x979.jpg) *The Lowe Alpine Cerro Torre shows proper load lifter strap placement* ### Sternum Strap Adjustability The sternum strap connects your shoulder straps across your chest, preventing the pack from shifting. Make sure it’s height-adjustable – as a woman, I can attest that having this strap in the wrong position is extremely uncomfortable! ## Frame Types: Internal vs. External vs. Frameless After trying all three frame types extensively, here’s my honest assessment: **Internal Frame (Recommended for beginners):** Aluminum stays or carbon fiber rods inside the pack provide structure while maintaining a low profile. They hug your body and transfer weight to your hips effectively. Best for most hiking conditions. **External Frame:** My first childhood pack was external frame, and they’re making a comeback. They promote excellent posture and make attaching bulky gear easy. Great for carrying heavy, awkward loads, but they can catch on branches and feel less stable on technical terrain. **Frameless:** Only recommended for ultralight backpackers carrying less than 20 pounds total pack weight. Without proper support structure, heavy loads will make you miserable. ![external frame backpack](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/alps-mountaineering-external-frame-backpack.jpg) *Alps Mountaineering external frame packs are making a comeback for their load-carrying ability* ## Essential Compartments and Organization Pack organization can make or break your outdoor experience. Here are the features I consider essential based on real-world use: ### Must-Have Compartments **Side Pockets:** I was shocked when I recently shopped for backpacks and found many expensive models without side pockets! How are you supposed to access your water bottle? I drink every 5-10 minutes on the trail, and I’m not taking my pack off each time. **Sleeping Bag Compartment:** Bottom-access sleeping bag compartments are incredibly useful. No more unpacking half your gear to get to your sleeping bag at the end of a long day. **Top Lid with Pockets:** The brain of your pack should have both internal and external pockets. I keep frequently needed items like my headlamp, first aid supplies, and snacks here. **Hip Belt Pockets:** Perfect for small essentials like lip balm, energy bars, or your phone. Much more convenient than digging through your main pack. ### Nice-to-Have Features **Multiple Access Points:** Some packs offer front-panel zip access or side zippers. These are convenient but can be potential failure points. **Internal Mesh Pockets:** Great for organizing small items and keeping dirty clothes separate from clean ones. ## Additional Features: What’s Worth the Extra Cost? After years of testing various features, here’s what I actually use versus what’s just marketing: ### Features Worth Paying For **Hydration Compatibility:** Internal sleeve and port for hydration bladders. Even if you don’t use one initially, you might want this option later. **Built-in Rain Cover:** Absolutely essential! Even “waterproof” packs leak through zippers. I use my rain cover as a bear hang bag too, getting double duty from it. **Compression Straps:** These let you cinch down the pack when it’s not full and attach external gear. Super useful for varying trip lengths. ### Features You Can Skip Initially **Removable Daypack:** Cool concept, but the detachable daypacks are usually poorly designed. I prefer carrying a separate lightweight daypack. **Excessive Lash Points:** A few gear attachment points are useful, but don’t pay extra for dozens of loops you’ll never use. ## My Current Pack: Real-World Performance Review I currently use the [Lowe Alpine Cholatse II](http://amzn.to/29nnXtX), and after two years and hundreds of trail miles, here’s my honest assessment: (Editors note: The Lowe Cholatse II is no longer available. The [Skysper](https://amzn.to/4nbUTva) is a similar pack and a bit cheaper too). ![lowe alpine cholatse ii](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/lowe-alpine-cholatse-ii.jpg) ### What I Love - Multiple access points make packing and unpacking efficient - Women-specific design fits my frame perfectly - Load lifter straps and hip belt distribute weight excellently - 50-60 liter capacity with compression handles all my trips - Dual compartments in the top lid are surprisingly useful - Lightweight construction doesn’t sacrifice durability ### Areas for Improvement - Side pocket material feels flimsy (though it’s held up so far) - Rain cover doesn’t fit well when a tent is strapped on top - Could use one or two more external attachment points ![Gear all packed for a 6-day backpacking trip!](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/IMG_3576-e1467980880963-683x1024.jpg) *Everything needed for a 6-day backcountry adventure fits comfortably* ## Budget Considerations: Value vs. Cost Quality backpacks range from $100 to $500+. Here’s how to get the best value: **Budget Options ($100-200):** Look at brands like Teton Sports and High Sierra. They offer good features and durability for occasional use. **Mid-Range ($200-350):** This is the sweet spot for most backpackers. Brands like Osprey, Gregory, and Lowe Alpine offer excellent quality and warranties. **Premium ($350+):** Only worth it if you’re backpacking frequently or have specific needs like ultralight weight or specialized features. ## The Father’s Pick: Thru-Hiking Perspective My dad is a minimalist thru-hiker who’s tested countless packs over thousands of trail miles. After trying everything from ultralight frameless packs to heavy-duty expedition models, he settled on the [Gregory Stout 65](https://amzn.to/46xo053). His choice came down to comfort – despite having back issues, he can carry this pack all day without pain. The detachable daypack feature has become one of his most-used features for side trips and town runs. At his age (he’s in his 60s), comfort trumps saving a few ounces in weight. Want to see what other backpackers actually carry inside their packs? Check out my [**Backpack Shakedown**](https://momgoescamping.com/backpack-shakedown/) post. ## First-Time Buyer Strategy: Smart Shopping Tips Here’s my step-by-step approach for first-time buyers: 1. **Borrow First:** Try to borrow a pack for your first trip. You’ll learn what features matter to you without the upfront investment. Don’t be shy about asking – most experienced backpackers love helping newcomers get outdoors! 2. **Visit a Store:** Even if you buy online later, try on different packs with weight in them. REI and other outdoor retailers have sand bags you can use to simulate a loaded pack. 3. **Read Reviews Carefully:** Look for reviews from people with similar body types and planned uses. A pack that works great for a 6’2″ male might be terrible for a petite woman. 4. **Consider Used Options:** Check REI Used, Facebook Marketplace, and gear swap groups. Backpacks are durable, and you can often find excellent deals on barely-used gear. 5. **Plan for Growth:** Your gear will evolve, and so will your packing style. Choose a pack that can handle some variation in load size and type. ## Common First-Timer Mistakes to Avoid Based on helping dozens of friends choose their first packs, here are the biggest mistakes I see: **Buying Too Small:** New backpackers often underestimate how much gear they need. It’s better to have extra space than to struggle with an overpacked small bag. **Focusing Only on Price:** A cheap pack that doesn’t fit properly will make you miserable and potentially cause injury. Invest in proper fit over rock-bottom pricing. **Ignoring Women-Specific Designs:** If you’re a woman, seriously consider packs designed for female anatomy. The difference in comfort is significant. **Buying Online Without Research:** Always know your measurements and read detailed reviews before buying online. ## Maintenance and Care: Making Your Investment Last A quality backpack should last decades with proper care. Here’s how to maximize your pack’s lifespan: - Clean it after every trip – dirt and grime break down fabrics - Store it loosely packed, not compressed - Check and maintain zippers regularly - Repair small tears immediately before they become big problems - Keep it out of direct sunlight when possible ## Final Thoughts: Making the Right Choice Choosing your first backpack is a big decision, but it doesn’t have to be perfect. Focus on proper fit, adequate volume, and essential features. As you gain experience, you’ll learn what matters most for your hiking style and can upgrade accordingly. Remember, the best backpack is the one that fits your body, suits your adventures, and gets you excited to hit the trail. Don’t get paralyzed by analysis – sometimes you just need to pick a good option and go hiking! The most important thing is getting outdoors and creating memories with family and friends. Your backpack is just the tool that carries the gear that enables the adventure. Have questions about choosing your first backpack? Share your specific situation in the comments below, and I’ll do my best to point you in the right direction. Happy trails! --- *This guide is based on 15+ years of personal backpacking experience, testing over 20 different packs, and helping numerous friends and family members choose their gear. While I may earn a small commission from affiliate links, I only recommend products I’ve personally used and believe in. Your adventure starts with the right gear – choose wisely and get out there!* ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** backpack, gear --- ### [Best Cheap Ultralight Sleeping Pads (<18oz, Under $110)](https://momgoescamping.com/best-cheap-ultralight-backpacking-pads/) **Published:** January 3, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Good backpacking sleeping pads will help you sleep comfortably, insulate you from the cold ground, and last through multiple trips.  But the “best” sleeping pads can cost well over $200.  If you aren’t willing to shell out this much money, don’t worry.  There are some good but cheap backpacking sleeping pads available. All of these backpacking sleeping pads are under 18oz and, at time of writing, cost less than $110. I’ve tested some of them myself.  The others were recommended by backpacker friends and in forums. **Tip:** Check out[ REI Outlet](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Ff%2Fscd-deals) for huge discounts on last season’s products.  You can sometimes find really good UL sleeping pads at very low prices. ## Quick Picks: Here are my top UL budget sleeping pads by type and comfort: - **Air Pad:** Sea to Summit UL Air Mat ([Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07B7FSD9M/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07B7FSD9M&linkId=3facf712e2926c95a41dab539c231731),[ REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F135417%2Fsea-to-summit-ultralight-air-sleeping-pad)) - **CCF Pad:** Nemo Switchback ([Amazon](https://amzn.to/4bvlQVi), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F141846%2Fnemo-switchback-sleeping-pad)) - **Self Inflating Pad:** Therm-a-Rest Prolite ([Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07YDMG33S/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07YDMG33S&linkId=e3edc61955a2fed0807bd3815c2282b3)) - **Most Comfortable:** Klymit Static V2 ([Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07YP8VXZ3/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07YP8VXZ3&linkId=6a9bd9a140e477eb7b718e5a99819976), [Garage Grown Gear](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=8aa14f51-1fb2-4c30-b785-1c6c0a96cd31&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.garagegrowngear.com%2Fsearch%3Ftype%3Dproduct%26q%3DNOT%2Btag%253A__gift%2BAND%2Bklymit%2Bstatic%2A%26product_type%3D)) ## Comparison Table \[table id=53 /\] ## When On a Budget, Go with Foam Sleeping Pads Foam backpacking pads are pretty simple to make.  You’ll easily find a good foam pad with a high R-value for very cheap. And don’t forget that foam pads last a lot longer.  You can abuse the hell out of them and never worry about seams bursting, leaking or punctures. The obvious downside is that cheap foam sleeping pads aren’t very comfortable. This is generally fine for weekend backpacking trip, but you’ll want the comfort of an air pad if on a long thru-hike or if you have a bad back. ### “I’m Too Poor to Buy Cheap Things” If you do decide to go the air pad route, consider increasing your budget.  Cheap air pads pop or leak fairly quickly.   It ends up being cheaper to just invest in one good backpacking pad that will last you *years* instead of having to buy a new pad after a few trips. At the very least, make sure you also get yourself a patch kit, learn how to use it and bring it with you hiking.  You don’t want to end up sleeping on the cold ground because your pad burst during the middle of your trip. ## Best Cheap Ultralight Sleeping Pads I’ve listed these sleeping pads starting with air pads and then foam pads.  There’s also a self-inflating backpacking pad which met the weight and price requirements. ### 1. Sea to Summit Ultralight Air Mat ![Sea to Summit Ultralight air mat](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/sea-to-summit-air-mat.jpg "sea to summit air mat - Mom Goes Camping") **Specs:** - 13.9oz - R-value of 1.1 - 2 inches thick - Stuff sack doubles as pump - Repair kit included - Short and large versions available - Buy at [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07B7FSD9M/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07B7FSD9M&linkId=3facf712e2926c95a41dab539c231731),[ REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F135417%2Fsea-to-summit-ultralight-air-sleeping-pad) The S2S Ultralight Air Mat gets my pick for the best cheap air pad.  While it does cost the most out of the pads reviewed here, it’s worth it because of the better quality.  It is really designed to last through many trips and won’t leak on you.  The material is pretty durable too.  It doesn’t lose air overnight like most other air pads do. At 2 inches thick, it is one of the most comfortable budget pads you’ll find. S2S uses air cells instead of long chambers, so it is decent for side sleepers. Other cool things: The stuff sack doubles as a pump. It only takes about 3 pumps with the sack to fill it up. A repair kit is included. And it treated inside to prevent mold growth. The downsides are that the S2S UL Air Mat does make a bit of noise.  It’s not nearly as bad as pads like the NeoAir though.  It’s also not very warm.  They do make an [insulated version of the pad](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F172613%2Fsea-to-summit-ultralight-insulated-air-sleeping-pad) with an R-value of 3.1, but it is pricier but only weighs 1.1lb. **Buy It Here on [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07B7FSD9M/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07B7FSD9M&linkId=3facf712e2926c95a41dab539c231731), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=7386a7a1-6402-44bf-aa21-7749a2b5b58f&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F135417%2Fsea-to-summit-ultralight-air-sleeping-pad)** --- ### 2. Klymit Static V2 UL ![Klyit Static V2 cheap lightweight backpacking pad](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/klymit-static-v2.jpg "klymit static v2 - Mom Goes Camping") **Specs:** - 16.6 oz - R-value of 1.3 - 2.5 inches thick - Repair kit included - Side rails - Buy at [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07YP8VXZ3/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07YP8VXZ3&linkId=6a9bd9a140e477eb7b718e5a99819976) The Klymit Static V2 UL is a very affordable air pad and weighs just over 1lb.  It is also one of the most comfortable cheap sleeping pads you’ll find for backpacking.  The air chambers are designed to keep the air in place.  It’s even good for side sleeping. If you need a warmer pad, Klymit also makes many other versions of the Static V, including insulated and extra-wide, but some are heavier or pricier. A lot of backpackers have tried out Klymit products.  Their experiences differ drastically.  Some say their pads held up for *years*.  Other people complain about pads leaking on day one.  Even more people say that the pads eventually start to leak because the seams don’t seem to be heat sealed well. The good news is that Klymit is really good about returns and has a lifetime warranty. Just make sure you test your Static V before taking it on a long hike. And bring a patch kit! **Buy It Here on [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07YP8VXZ3/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07YP8VXZ3&linkId=6a9bd9a140e477eb7b718e5a99819976)** --- ### 3. Sleepingo Ultralight Air Pad [![Sleepingo Large Sleeping Pad for Camping - Ultralight Sleeping/Camping Mat for Backpacking - Camping Pad - Lightweight, Inflatable & Compact Camping Air Mattress - Backpacking Sleeping Pad - Sleep Pad](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61KCpFnXvaL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FP4Z3RZ?tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) **Specs:** - 14.5 oz - R-value of 2.1 - 2 inches thick - Repair kit included - Buy at [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FP4Z3RZ/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07FP4Z3RZ&linkId=096ba10507c648b83e4430d374064b41) The UL sleeping pad by Sleepingo is one of the most popular and best-selling on Amazon.  It is incredibly cheap.  Considering the price, the specs look really good: just 14.5oz, a 2.1 R-value (which seems to be accurate) and a weight limit of over 300lbs. It only takes about 10-15 breaths to inflate. But, as with all gear which seems too good to be true, the Sleepingo is definitely cheaply made.  It will eventually pop on you, so you absolutely must make sure you have the repair kit on trips.  The shape of the air chambers can make it somewhat difficult to patch. Another issue with the cheap sleeping pad is that the valve is in a weird place at the end of the pad. If you need to re-inflate the pad at night (which a lot of hikers say was necessary), you have to get of the pad and flip it over. Because of these issues, I’d only recommend the Sleepingo for petite hikers (definitely not 200+ lb hikers!) who don’t hike frequently. **[Get the Sleepingo Pad Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FP4Z3RZ/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07FP4Z3RZ&linkId=096ba10507c648b83e4430d374064b41)** #### Sleepingo vs. Outdoorsman UL Pads There is also another cheap UL sleeping pad on Amazon[ by Outdoorsman](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LZWW2FD/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B01LZWW2FD&linkId=e2bb30caccdff0058b39114d0af69463).  At first glance, it is almost identical to the Sleepingo pad.   Most hikers prefer the Sleepingo though because it is easy to roll up and pack away.  The valve on the Outdoorsman pad is off-center, which can make it a bit more difficult to deflate.    Ultimately, they are both cheap pads which work good enough but aren’t very reliable for frequent backpackers. --- ### 4. Ryno Tuff Sleeping Pad [![Ryno Tuff 24 x 75 in Lightweight Inflatable Camping Sleeping Pad & Camping Pillow Set - Ultralight Insulated Nylon Hiking & Backpacking Travel Gear for Adults - Waterproof Packable Floor Sleeping Mat](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41IX3euQ4yL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FFC4GV4?tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) **Specs:** - 14 oz - R-value of 2.2 - 1.5 inches thick - 75×24” - Includes pillow - Buy at [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FFC4GV4/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07FFC4GV4&linkId=de3008153fc6e81dadf4b2f4ccfb3a04) At 75×24 inches when inflated, the Ryno Tuff sleeping pad is larger than the other cheap backpacking pads reviewed here.  It is surprisingly lightweight for its size.  The pad by itself weighs 14oz.  With the included pillow, it is approximately 17oz, but is really slippery and uncomfortable. As you’d expect from a cheap pad, the Ryno Tuff specs are exaggerated. It doesn’t seem to really have a 2.2 R-value.  And it is more like 1.5 inches thick than the advertised 2 inches.  It’s actually pretty bulky when rolled up (11×4 compared to 8×3.5 with Sleepingo). You can also expect the Ryno Tuff pad to slowly deflate on you at night and eventually experience some pops.  Despite these issues, the Ryno Tuff is still a pretty good summer backpacking pad if you are on a limited budget. **[Buy It Here on Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FFC4GV4/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07FFC4GV4&linkId=de3008153fc6e81dadf4b2f4ccfb3a04)** --- ### 5. Nemo Switchback CCF Sleeping Pad [![Nemo Switchback CCF cheap backpacking sleeping pad](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/nemo-switchback.jpg "nemo switchback - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/nemo-switchback.jpg) **Specs:** - 14.5 oz - R-value of 2 - 0.9 inches thick - 72×20” open - Packs down to 20x5x5.5” - Closed accordion style - Short model available - Buy at [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07JZZ5PFB/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07JZZ5PFB&linkId=93ea15ebe6550e9cf091d4dd32d5070c), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F141846%2Fnemo-switchback-sleeping-pad) The Nemo Switchback regularly gets listed as one of the best backpacking pads.  As a CCF pad, it obviously isn’t as comfortable as an air pad – especially for heavy people or side sleepers. But, as far as CCF pads go, the Switchback is one of the most comfortable.  The foam padding is fairly thick and rebounds well after compressing.  Just bear in mind that all CCF pads will eventually get compressed and won’t be as comfortable or warm anymore. **Buy It Here on [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07JZZ5PFB/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07JZZ5PFB&linkId=93ea15ebe6550e9cf091d4dd32d5070c), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F141846%2Fnemo-switchback-sleeping-pad)** #### Switchback vs. Therm-a-Rest Z Lite [![Therm-a-Rest Z Lite SOL](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/z-lite-SOL.jpg "z lite SOL - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/z-lite-SOL.jpg) Backpackers regularly say that the Switchback is more comfortable than the Z Lite.  The nodes on the Switchback don’t compress as much as with the Z Lite.   The Switchback also seems slightly more durable than the Z Lite and doesn’t get compressed as quickly.  Another big plus is that the Switchback packs down smaller than the Z Lite. Therm-a-Rest also makes a SOL version of the Z Lite pad.  One side of the Z Lite SOL has a reflective coating. This is supposed to make it warmer: you put the shiny side up to reflect heat back towards your body.  The bad news is that the shiny coating will eventually crack and flake off (possibly causing some pollution in the process!).  Considering that the SOL version of the Z Lite is 2x more expensive, it’s really not worth paying for if you are on a strict budget. **Check out the [Z Lite Original](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00453NA1E/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00453NA1E&linkId=e31d96a8656d36f9aa017c4fd6a5c406) Here and [Z Lite SOL](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005I6R0WC/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B005I6R0WC&linkId=1fa6c05d2395adfbe3994c4f8285827e) Here** --- ### 6. Big Agnes TwisterCane BioFoam ![Big Agnes cheap lightweight BioFoam sleeping pad](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/big-agnes-biofoam.jpg "big agnes biofoam - Mom Goes Camping") **Specs:** - 14 oz - R-value of 1.7 - 0.5 inch thick - Sustainable materials - Tire tread on one side - Buy at [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08PHGSD15/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08PHGSD15&linkId=c0b940c84bf7e76e7c4b4acdc64b6823) The Big Agnes TwistedCane BioFoam is a cheap, lightweight pad.  It’s main selling point is that it is made from eco-friendly materials.  It is also very durable compared to other foam pads, which tend to get compressed over time or tear. When it comes to comfort and warmth though, the TwistedCane leaves a lot to be desired.  The tire tread pattern on one side does create some air pockets for additional insulation and comfort.  However, it isn’t as good as pads with ridges or bumps on both sides.  I would definitely not recommend this pad for side sleepers.  It’s only really suitable for lightweight backpackers who sleep on their backs and who will sleep on smooth ground. **Get It Here at [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08PHGSD15/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08PHGSD15&linkId=c0b940c84bf7e76e7c4b4acdc64b6823)** --- ### 7. Foam Sleeping Pads [![ASR Outdoor Thermal Mat Heat Reflective Camping Sleeping Pad Insulated Winter Chill](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/31E0qpxeWfL._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007IVDZTC?tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) **Specs:** - 8 oz - R-value of 1.2-1.8 - 1 inch thick - Buy at [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007IVDZTC/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B007IVDZTC&linkId=75a69c3692a54bca2fc76cb32c37cb16) If you are *really* on a budget and still want to be ultralight, you can always get a cheap foam sleeping pad.  So long as you take the time to find a good campsite and clear the ground of rocks/sticks, they can actually be quite comfortable.  I used one of these for years without complaints – though I was in my 20s and more immune to discomforts then. 🙂 Foam sleeping pads vary in R-value, but  most are around 1.2.   This one has a reflective coating on one side so is slightly warmer. You can always double up pads to get more warmth on colder weather trips.  That’s a bit too bulky for backpacking trips but is a good option for car camping. [**Get It Here on Amazon**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007IVDZTC/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B007IVDZTC&linkId=75a69c3692a54bca2fc76cb32c37cb16) --- ### 8. Therm-a-Rest Prolite Self-Inflating Pad ![thermarest prolite self inflating ultralight sleeping pad](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/thermarest-prolite-self-inflating-sleeping-pad.jpg "thermarest prolite self inflating sleeping pad - Mom Goes Camping") **Specs:** - 18 oz - R-value of 2.4 - 1 inch thick - Women’s and other versions available - Self inflating - Buy at [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07YDMG33S/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07YDMG33S&linkId=e3edc61955a2fed0807bd3815c2282b3) The Prolite is the lightest self-inflating pad that you can find (at the moment of writing, at least).  At 18oz, it is still heavier than an air or foam pad. However, for many hikers, it is well worth carrying those few extra ounces.  For starters, the Prolite is quieter than an air pad, much more durable and warmer.  You still have to be careful about punctures but the Prolite can last *years* without experiencing leak issues.  It also does well at not losing air over the night. As far as comfort goes, the Prolite is good even for side sleepers.  You will need to use your mouth to manually fill it up to get a good firmness, but it only takes a few breaths.  The Prolite isn’t the cheapest lightweight pad you’ll find but, if you want a good balance or comfort, warmth and durability, it’s definitely a good value. **[Get It Here on Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07YDMG33S/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07YDMG33S&linkId=e3edc61955a2fed0807bd3815c2282b3)** --- **Do you have a cheap backpacking pad? Which one and how has it held up? Let us know in the comments section below.** ###### Sources <https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/cj56gx/recommendations_for_a_good_cheap_backpacking/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/b7ryld/cheap_sleeping_pad_options/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/bx7ds0/ultralight_insulated_sleeping_pad_budget_vs_top/> Image credit: “[Osprey Daylite pack](https://www.flickr.com/photos/simonov/3606648034/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [simonov](https://www.flickr.com/people/simonov/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** sleeping pads, ultralight --- ### [What Gear Do You Need for Hiking with a Baby?](https://momgoescamping.com/gear-hiking-baby/) **Published:** December 31, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** With babies, even a trip to the playground can involve a lot of gear.  When you want to go hiking with a baby though, the list of gear to bring can get *really* long.  However, I’ve found that you can still keep things minimal (i.e. not lug around tons of stuff!) by making smart choices about what baby gear to bring on the hike.  This list goes over the essential baby hiking gear that will make the experience safer and more enjoyable. ## 1. Baby Carrier or Stroller This is the most essential piece of baby hiking gear. For hikes on rugged terrain, you’ll need to use a baby carrier. Front carriers are good for infants, albeit a bit sweaty. Backpack carriers are good for older babies and allows them to enjoy the view more. There’s nothing wrong with using a stroller on hikes either.  It’s becoming easier to find accessible trails and there’s a good selection of off-road strollers that can handle bumps. I definitely prefer the stroller on longer hikes: it saves my back from the strain of carrying my heavy baby and is less-sweaty on hot days. **Random tip:** I sometimes brought a stroller *and* a carrier when hiking with my baby.  I’d use the stroller for as long as possible. When the trail got too tough, I’d use a bike lock to lock the stroller ot a tree and continue with the carrier.  This obviously only works if you hike out the same way you came though. **For more info, read:** - [Strollers vs. Carriers for Hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/stroller-vs-hiking-carrier/) - [Tips for Using a Baby Hiking Carrier](https://momgoescamping.com/tips-child-hiking-carriers/) - [Best All-Terrain Strollers for Hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/all-terrain-strollers-hiking/) - [Best Hiking Carriers for Petite Women](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-child-carrier-petite-women/) ## 2. Trekking Poles If you are using a baby carrier on your hike, absolutely bring trekking poles.  They improve balance, which reduces the likelihood that you might fall and have an injury.  Trekking poles also help distribute the load throughout your entire body, meaning that your back takes less strain. ## 3. Diaper Kit My hiking diaper kit contains the same items in the one that I carry every day: diapers, wipes, barrier cream and hand sanitizer. The difference is that the hiking diaper kit is smaller. Instead carrying around an entire package of wipes, I will repackage a few into a baggie.  I also make sure to use scent-free cream whenever in nature so it doesn’t attract insects. **Tip:** Make sure you keep all the diaper items together in a pouch or baggie. You don’t want to dig multiple items out of the pack each time you have to do a diaper change. ## 4. Pack-Out Bag Yes, you will have to pack out dirty diapers, wipes and any other trash.  A doubled plastic shopping bag works fine.  If you use cloth diapers or simply don’t want to toss plastic bags into the trash, then you can get a waterproof diaper bag. They are bulkier but definitely better for the environment. I like [this reusable diaper bag](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08CZ183Z8/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08CZ183Z8&linkId=294f6933ec67d7ca711b7390f946ab87).  It comes with various sizes and the smaller size is perfect for hiking.  There are two compartments so you can keep diapers in one and trash in another. There’s also a hook so you can attach the diaper bag to the outside of your pack. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/alvababy-wet-dry-bags.jpg "alvababy wet dry bags - Mom Goes Camping")](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08CZ183Z8/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08CZ183Z8&linkId=294f6933ec67d7ca711b7390f946ab87)Alvababy waterproof diaper bag [get it here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08CZ183Z8/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08CZ183Z8&linkId=294f6933ec67d7ca711b7390f946ab87) ## 5. Mat or Blanket I bring a lightweight foam sleeping pad on hikes with my baby.  It serves multiple functions: - Diaper changing pad - Can put your baby down on it during breaks - Someplace to sit while breastfeeding so your butt doesn’t get cold/dirty/wet from sitting on the ground You can also bring a blanket (preferably one which has a waterproof underside). However, I find mats easier to open/close.  They also provide more insulation, which is important if you are going hiking with a baby in cool or wet weather. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/hiking-baby-gear-mat.jpg "hiking baby gear mat - Mom Goes Camping")My girls hanging out on a foam mat during our hiking lunch break ## 6. First Aid Kit In addition to [these items in my hiking first aid kit](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-first-aid-kit-checklist/), I also bring little ampoules of saline solution.  Why? My baby loves to grab things like handfuls of dirt or crumbly fall leaves.  Touching things is great for sensory stimulation – but she also has a tendency to touch her eyes with dirty hands. The saline solution is very helpful for rinsing the dirt out of her eyes. ![saline solution ampules](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/saline-bottles.jpg "saline bottles - Mom Goes Camping")You can get these ampoules [here](https://amzn.to/4i9LnWq) ## 7. Clothing Your baby will need to dress like you do while on the hike: in lightweight breathable layers.  The difference is that your baby will not be moving around much, so will need more layers (or thicker layers) to stay warm in cool weather. If your baby is in a front carrier, keep in mind that she might get sweaty.  Or *you* will get sweaty and transfer the wetness to your baby.  For this reason, it’s important that your baby wears clothes which can dry quickly. I also bring one complete change of clothes for my baby while hiking.  You never know when a diaper blowout or major spit-up incident will occur. ## 8. Weather Protection Depending on when and where you go hiking with a baby, you will need gear for sun, rain, or cold weather.  This make include: - **Sun:** UV clothing, baby-friendly sunscreen, sunhat, sunglasses, shade cover for hiking carrier or stroller - **Rain:** Baby rain suit, rain cover for carrier/stroller. \*See these top picks for [best baby rain suits](https://momgoescamping.com/best-rain-suits-toddlers/) - **Cold:** Booties, mittens and hat which can be tied on, good base layer, snowsuit, chemical hand warmers.  Read these [tips for hiking with a baby in cold weather](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-baby-toddler-cold/). [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/insulated-rain-suit.jpg "insulated rain suit - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/insulated-rain-suit.jpg)My baby in her insulated rain suit on a chilly day[![wanderlilng confluence 4 in 1 maternity and baby wearing jacket](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/wanderlilng-confluence-4-in-1-maternity-and-baby-wearing-jacket.jpg "wanderlilng confluence 4 in 1 maternity and baby wearing jacket - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/wanderlilng-confluence-4-in-1-maternity-and-baby-wearing-jacket.jpg)Its pricy but this babywearing jacket by Wanderling shown above is awesome It lets you carry your baby underneath your jacket so you can keep them warm and dry [Check it out here](https://wanderling.us/MGC10) and use discount code MGC10 for 10 off at checkout ## 9. Animal and/or Insect Protection In most areas, your biggest threats while hiking with a baby are going to be mosquitoes and ticks.  Some areas have problematic bears and you’ll need to carry bear spray. While mosquitoes are mostly a nuisance (and your baby might keep you awake for days after the hike fussing because of itchiness!), ticks can be very dangerous.  I’ve pulled multiple ticks off my baby after hikes.  Luckily she never got Lyme disease, probably because I’m so diligent about checking and always keep a tick-removal tool in my first aid kit so I can remove them properly. **For more info, read:** - [Baby-Friendly Mosquito Repellent](https://momgoescamping.com/best-baby-safe-mosquito-repellents-camping/) - [Best Tick Removal Tools for Humans](https://momgoescamping.com/tick-removal-tools-humans/) - [What to Do If You See a Bear](https://momgoescamping.com/bear-safety/) [![TickEase tick removal tool](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/tickease.jpg "tickease - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/tickease.jpg)The pointy tip on these tweezers are ideal for safely removing ticks ## 10. Clips/Gear Ties If you are going to bring a baby bottle, pacifier or toy on the hike, then you will want to get some clips.  Otherwise, the bottle will inevitable fall on the ground and you’ll have to lick the dirt off while telling yourself “*Dirt is good for immunity, right?*” Carabiners works well for clipping some baby gear to your pack.  However, my favorite trick is to use an adjustable loop knot (like a [tautline hitch](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:TautlineHitch-ABOK-1800.jpg), [clinch knot](https://www.101knots.com/clinch-knot.html) or [slippery 8 loop](https://www.netknots.com/rope_knots/slippery-eight-loop)) to tie gear to the carrier or stroller.  This means that my baby can grab her own bottle so I don’t have to constantly hand it to her.  And I don’t have to worry that she will chuck it on the ground. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/tautline-hitch.jpg "tautline hitch - Mom Goes Camping")*Tautline hitch knot  Tie one side to the packstroller and then tie the other end of the rope around the bottletoyitem The knot slides so you can easily remove the item* I use this trick in our everyday life too.  You know how babies go through phases where they throw things on the ground and expect the parent to pick them up? My baby couldn’t do that because her bottle was always attached to the high chair or stroller! ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/bottle-tied-onto-stroller.jpg "bottle tied onto stroller - Mom Goes Camping")Never drop a bottle My daughters bottle is tied onto her stroller with a tautline hitch The rope is long enough for her to drink from the bottle but not long enough for it to fall to the ground ## 11. Survival Gear No matter how experienced of a hiker you are, bad things can happen. For this reason, prepared hikers will always make sure to carry basic survival gear with them.  When hiking with a  baby, this gear should include: - Headlamp - Lighter and some tinder (plus knowledge of ways to make a fire) - Water purifier - Extra water and snacks - Emergency communication Device (my family uses the SPOT Finder) To make sure you are prepared, read this list of [things you should ALWAYS bring with you on hikes](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-packing-list/). **What baby hiking gear do you bring on the trail? Let us know in the comments below.** **Need more advice? Read this [Guide to Hiking with a Baby](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-with-baby/)** --- Image credit: “[Woman Hiking with Baby in Arastradero Pr](https://www.flickr.com/photos/ddebold/152266326/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [donjd2,](https://www.flickr.com/people/ddebold/) [TautlineHitch-ABOK-1800.jpg](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:TautlineHitch-ABOK-1800.jpg), by David J. Fred, [Creative Commons](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Creative_Commons "w:en:Creative Commons") [Attribution-Share Alike 2.5 Generic](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/deed.en) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking **Tags:** babies --- ### [The 5 Essential Knife Blade Shapes](https://momgoescamping.com/knife-blade-shapes/) **Published:** April 16, 2018 **Author:** Diane **Content:** *Today I’m happy to have a guest post from [Perkin Knives](https://perkinknives.com/), a company which makes exquisite handmade survival and hunting knives. You can find all of the knives shown here on their website.* When choosing a knife, it is crucial that you consider the shape of the blade. Blade type for your knife is really essential because it will have a direct impact on your usage of the knife. Each type of blade has some advantage or disadvantage. So, picking the right blade is just as important as the metal and the handle material, for a good knife. There are a lot of different blade types to consider.  However, the main ones to know about are: *clip point, drop point, tanto point, dagger point,* and *spear point.* ## **Pros and Cons of Each Knife Blade Shape** Confused about which blade is the best? It is obvious, clip point, tanto point and so many more. Here is a guide with all the advantages and disadvantages of the blades that are quite popular. ### **1. Clip Point Blade** ![clip point blade](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/clip-point-e1523305010866.jpg "clip point - Mom Goes Camping") Clip point is quite a popular blade that is used widely among the masses. Back edge runs straight, right from the handle. Here it stops halfway up the knife, from where it turns and continues to the point of the knife. The “cut out” part is curved or straight and is known as the Clip point. It is a great for hunting knives. **Advantages**: - Point is sharp and controllable - Great tool for piercing - Presence of a good cutting edge for slicing  **Disadvantage**: - The point is narrow, making it weak ### 2. Drop Point Blade ![drop point blade](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/drop-point.jpg "drop point - Mom Goes Camping") The drop point blade shape is an all-purpose blade, which has grown to become another popular blade choice in the world. The back edge of the knife runs to the tip of the knife straight from the handle in a slow curved manner. This blade can make a great survival knife. **Advantages**: - Strong Point, which is sharp as well as controllable - Good amount of cutting edge for slicing  **Disadvantage**: - Point is not the sharpest compared to other blade points - Not a good tool for piercing ### **3. Tanto Point Blade** ![tanto blade shape](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/tanto-blade.jpg "tanto blade - Mom Goes Camping") This kind of knife has a high point along with a flat grind. This helps make the point extremely strong. The front sharpened edge meets the back edge which is unsharpened at an angle and not a curve. The knife lacks a belly which makes the knife have a stronger tip. These are highly versatile for outdoor applications and survival scenarios, like facing a wild animal or enemy.  **Advantages**: - Extremely strong point - A great choice for a piercing knife  **Disadvantages**: - Lacks a cutting edge for slicing - Controlling the point is difficult ### **4. Dagger Point/ Needle Point Blade** ![dagger blade type](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/dagger-e1523304914217.jpg "dagger - Mom Goes Camping") This knife blade has two sharpened edges, making it a great thrusting or stabbing knife. The two edges make it a good weapon in close combat situations where you need to defend yourself. **Advantages**: - Super thin and sharp point of the knife makes the knife a good tool for piercing soft targets  **Disadvantages**: - Weak point, which can break upon impact with hard targets - Absence of cutting edge for slicing ### **5. Spear Point:** ![spear point blade](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/spear-point.jpg "spear point - Mom Goes Camping") It is a symmetrical pointed blade, which has the point in line with the centre line of the blade’s long axis. The blade can have single or double edges that are sharp. This symmetrical design makes it a great throwing knife.  **Advantages**: - Strong point - If the knife is double edged then it will have a sharp point - The blade is controllable **Disadvantages**: - The cutting edge for slicing is small The above-mentioned blades are just some of the examples. Have a look at all the blade designs and then decide which one is the best for you. Stores around the world, offline and online are ready with a wide variety of knife and knife blade designs. Remember that not every knife is good for piercing or slicing. Knives are pretty much usable for myriad of purposes. So, you need to look at the features, and decide the best knife to suit your purpose. **Author Bio:** Having been on the Perkin Knives team for several years as a marketing executive, Billy has been part of a great many top-of-the-line projects. Not only has he personally contributed to the service in every way, but he also happens to be one of the most revered members of[ Perkin Knives](https://perkinknives.com/). ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [Best Vegan Sleeping Bags for Cold-Weather Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/vegan-sleeping-bags/) **Published:** October 30, 2019 **Author:** Diane **Content:** For a long time, vegans who wanted to go camping in colder weather were stuck with heavy, bulky sleeping bags.  Synthetics simply couldn’t match down’s insulating capabilities. However, technology has advanced a lot in recent years. Here are the best vegan sleeping bags that can actually keep you warm on cold nights. ### **Best Overall:**  **Why?** It’s comfort rated to 15F (low 2.3F), is lightweight for its class, and is made from 96% recycled materials so there’s no moral issue with buying this vegan sleeping bag!  Oh, and it’s pretty damn affordable too.  Get it here on . ## Comparison of the Best Vegan Sleeping Bags \[table id=13 /\] [**Click here to skip to the full reviews**](#reviews) --- Don’t need a sleeping bag for cold weather? There are plenty of synthetic sleeping bags for 2 and 3-season use.  .  Just make sure you check the product description to make sure they are 100% synthetic. --- ## Vegan Sleeping Bags – Can They Really Be As Good as Down? I’m assuming that you already know about the cruel practices that go into harvesting down, so I won’t get into that here (if you don’t, here’s a [good primer on the issue](https://www.yourdailyvegan.com/feathers-down/)). Regardless of the ethical issues around down, you can’t deny that it is a superior insulating material.  After all, *nature* made down to keep geese warm without weighing them down. We humans haven’t quite managed to replicate what millions of years of evolution did to create down feathers.  While synthetics do have their benefits compared to down (like handling wet conditions better), synthetics simply don’t insulate as well.  A down sleeping bag is going to be warmer, lighter, and more compact than a synthetic vegan sleeping bag. Instead of harping on the benefits of synthetics, I want to talk about some of the downsides of synthetics.  Then you will be able to address these issues before your vegan sleeping bag causes you issues on a frigid cold night camping! ### Issue #1: Synthetic Sleeping Bags Lose Insulating Properties Over Time Synthetic fibers aren’t as durable as down feathers.  Over time, the fibers in your vegan sleeping bag will start to break down.  Some of the fibers will also get compressed.  This results in loss of loftiness, which means the fibers won’t be as warm as when you first got it. **I’ve seen estimates that synthetics lose 40 to 50% of their insulating ability in as little as 3.5 weeks of use!** ([Source](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/7d1yzp/do_synthetic_down_substitutes_really_have_a/)) Today’s synthetics tend to be of a better quality (assuming that you aren’t buying some cheap vegan sleeping bag for under $35…), so the insulation will *probably* last a bit longer.  Still, **you can expect the insulation value to drop around 20% or more over time**! Suddenly, your 30 degree sleeping bag just became a 50 degree bag. :/ This is one of the reasons that people like down so much more (again, not justifying this morally).  They can buy just one expensive down sleeping bag and have it for *years*.  By contrast, you’ll have to get a new vegan sleeping bag at least every few years if you want to stay warm. The moral issues of buying multiple synthetic bags (and the pollution caused by producing them) versus one down bag is hard to weight. #### How to make your vegan sleeping bag last longer? - **STORE YOUR SYNTHETIC BAG UNCOMPRESSED!!!** Compressing synthetics cause the fibers to break down. Obviously you need to compress it while backpacking, but take it out of the stuff sack as soon as you get back home. - **WASH INFREQUENTLY.** Washing will also damage the synthetic fibers.  So wash it as little as possible.  Yes, it might stink a bit. 🙂 ### Issue #2: Synthetic Sleeping Bags Are Heavier The technology hasn’t gotten to the point where synthetics can be as warm as down for the same weight. You will likely be carrying at least twice the weight for the same level of warmth that a down bag would offer.  But, if you aren’t prepared to carry an extra pound or two, then you probably aren’t that dedicated to being vegan anyway. 😉 If weight is an issue (which, as a mom who carries pretty much all of my daughter’s backpacking gear, is totally an issue for me!), then you can try to cut weight in other ways. One of the biggest ways to cut weight from your pack is to rethink your food.  Get hardcore about [planning your meals with a spreadsheet](https://momgoescamping.com/tips-planning-backpacking-meals/) down to the calorie.  I also recommend buying a dehydrator and making your own meals. **Guess what?**  I’ve got an entire ebook on how to make vegan backpacking meals!  It has over 50 vegan trail recipes plus tons of info on how to plan meals.  [Get it here](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/). ![dehydrator backpacking recipes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/book-with-tablet.png "book with tablet - Mom Goes Camping") ### Issue #3: Moral Issues of Using Synthetics Being vegan isn’t just about saying “No” to animal products.  It is about taking a holistic look at your actions and choosing the path of least harm.  This is not always a simple decision – especially considering all of the fossil fuels that go into making synthetic camping gear. If you go camping in cold weather often, it might make sense to buy a *used* down bag instead of a new synthetic bag (and then having to buy another new synthetic bag a year or two later). Buying a down bag secondhand means you didn’t contribute financially to the production of an animal product.  Repurposing has a lower environmental impact.  Since down lasts for *years*, the impact is much lower than getting multiple vegan synthetic bags. There is also the option of [eider down](https://andy-kirkpatrick.com/articles/view/feather_facts) which is considered “ethical” because it’s hand-collected from the bird’s nests instead of killing/plucking the birds (the birds are protected and thus their feathers must be hand-collected from nests). I currently don’t know of any down sleeping bags made from eider.  There are a couple of cheap sleeping bags on Amazon that claim they are from eider, but there’s no way that it’s real eider. True eider costs hundreds if not *thousands* of dollars. **\*The ethical issue around synthetics is one more reason the  is the top pick for best vegan sleeping bag.  It’s made from 96% recycled materials.** ## Types of Vegan Synthetic Insulation Synthetic insulation consists of fibers that interlink to form pockets of air that can trap heat. There are dozens of different synthetic insulation for vegan sleeping bags.  They can be broken down into three main types: - **Cluster Fiber Insulation:** This uses short bunches of fiber to resemble down. One popular choice is ThermoBall. - **Short Staple:** These are short little bunches of fibers. The fibers bunches can move independently of each other.  Options include Thinsulate, PrimaLoft, and Omni-Heat. - **Continuous Filament:** This insulation is made of long fibers that link with each other rather than little tufts or balls. Climashield is a popular option. For jackets, cluster-fiber and short-staple insulation are usually preferred because they are more flexible. However, for sleeping bags, continuous filament is usually preferred because it is more durable. (Sources: [2](https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/48963/), [3](https://www.sierra.com/blog/camping/whats-best-synthetic-insulation)) \[sta\_anchor id=”reviews” /\] ## Review of Cold-Weather Vegan Sleeping Bags Here are more detailed reviews of the best vegan sleeping bags for 3 or 4 seasons.   These are all good quality sleeping bags but, since they are made from synthetics, they don’t cost a fortune.  However, the warmer bags will definitely weigh your pack down.  There’s no avoiding that if you want to be ethical in your buying choices! ![marmot trestles eco elite 20](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/marmot-trestles-20-copy.jpg "marmot trestles 20 copy - Mom Goes Camping") **Quick Stats:** - **Weight:** 2lbs 6oz - **Temperature Rating (Low):** 21.6F - **Comfort Rating:** 32.2F - **Compressed size:** 9.5×19” - **Hood and footbox** - **Draft tube** - **Made with 96% recycled materials** - **HL-ElixR synthetic fibers** - **Hang loops** - **Long and regular sizes available** - This sleeping bag combines three different types of synthetic fibers to create loftiness while retaining some durability and compressibility. It has some really nice features like a pocket inside the sleeping bag, a roomy footbox, and a drawstring hood for keeping your head warm.  You’ll probably also like that it is mostly made from recycled materials, hence the word “Eco” in the name. Another cool feature is that there are two zippers.  One zipper is full length.  The other is short and lets you unzip just the front of the sleeping bag so you can get your arms out (for reading or whatever) without having to unzip the side. The extra zipper also makes this bag more versatile for warmer weather because it allows you to ventilate the bag by unzipping a bit. As for warmth, it’s definitely not the warmest vegan sleeping bag on the list.  It does have a draft tube and a mummy design which allows it to keep you warmer without all the extra weight.  However, the mummy shape is very roomy.  The extra room means that some cold air will get into the bag.  On the flip side though, the roominess means that this is a very comfortable bag to sleep in. Marmot is a well-known trusted brand and they use the EN system of testing.  So, the temperature rating is pretty spot-on. --- ![North Face vegan sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/north-face-winter-synthetic-copy.jpg "north face winter synthetic copy - Mom Goes Camping") **Quick Stats:** - **Weight:** 3lbs 10oz - **Temperature Rating (Low):** 15F - **Comfort Rating:** 30F - **Compressed size:** 11.3 liters - **Unzips into blanket** - **Cinchable hood** - **Full and half-length zippers** - **Draft collar and tube** - **Heatseeker Eco insulation** - **Made of 30% recycled material** - **Hang loops** - **Long and regular sizes available** - This is a really popular sleeping bag (with vegans and non alike).  It has a lower-limit rating of 15F and is comfort rated for 30F.  It is definitely fluffy and warm.  To save weight, extra insulation is put in the most-needed places A cool feature is that the sleeping bag has a zipper which goes all the way around, so you can unzip it into a quilt.  There are also a half-length zipper so you can just open the front of the bag and get your hands out. Compared to other sleeping bags, this one is very roomy.  The extra space isn’t ideal if you are a small person – you’ll use more body heat to warm up the bag.  However, it’s great if you typically feel claustrophobic in sleeping bags. --- ![marmot trestles elite eco 0](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/marmot-trestles-elite-eco-0.jpg "marmot trestles elite eco 0 - Mom Goes Camping") **Quick Stats:** - **Weight:** 3lbs 8oz - **Temperature Rating (Low):** 2.3F - **Comfort Rating:** 15.6F - **Hood and footbox** - **Integrated collar** - **Draft tube** - **Made with recycled materials** - **SpiraFil LT insulation** - **Hang loops** - **Long and regular sizes available** - The Marmot Trestles Elite Eco 0 sleeping bag is virtually identical in terms of features to the Elite Eco 20 version. So, I won’t harp on the features again. The big difference between the two versions of the bags is the type and amount of insulation used.  That means this sleeping bag can be used down to 15.6F and still be comfortable.  With lots of layers (and grit), you’d be fine in it down to much colder weather too – just not necessarily comfortable. Extra warmth comes at the cost of an extra pound of weight.  At 3lbs 8oz, this is very heavy for backpacking.  However, it’s still lighter than a lot of its synthetic counterparts and is very affordable. --- ### [Eberlestock Reveille G-Loft 5](https://amzn.to/2Jum5nO) ![eberlestock synthetic sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/eberlestock-sleeping-bag.jpg "eberlestock sleeping bag - Mom Goes Camping") **Quick Stats:** - **Weight:** 4lbs - **Temperature Rating (Low):** -36F - **Comfort Rating:** 5F - **Compressed size:** 12x9x9 - **Cinchable face hole** - **Draft tube** - **Carinthia G-Loft insulation** - **[Buy at Amazon](https://amzn.to/2Jum5nO)** Eberlestock is a brand mostly known for its hunting backpacks and tactical gear.  Their gear definitely isn’t made for ultralight backpacking, but it is great for very cold nights camping. Compared to other synthetic bags, it is actually fairly lightweight at only 4lbs.  Yes, 4lbs is far from light – but the Reveille sleeping bag is comfort rated to 5F.   What about the -36F low rating?  It’s kind of deceiving in the description. You only get this rating is when you use the bag with the Eberlestock ultralight sleeping bag. Their ultralight bag isn’t actually light though at 2.5lbs.  So, I wouldn’t say it’s worth getting the combo (especially since the lighter bag is pricy).  However, if you need to be comfortable in weather in the low teens or below, this is one of the lightest synthetic sleeping bags you’ll find.  It also compresses down very small. Note that the zipper is in the middle of the sleeping bag, so this is best for back-sleepers.  However, there is a draft tube that covers the zipper so it isn’t uncomfortable to sleep on if you roll onto your side.  The face hole looks claustrophobic but can be opened. --- ### [Therm-a-Rest Centari 5F](https://amzn.to/34g9SLH) ![thermarest centari](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/thermarest-centari.jpg "thermarest centari - Mom Goes Camping") **Quick Stats:** - **Weight:** 4lbs 2oz - **Temperature Rating (Low):** 5F - **Comfort Rating:** 18F - **Compressed size:** 11×18” - **Cinchable hood** - **Draft tube** - **eraLoft insulation** - **Sleeping pad attachments** - **Small, long and regular sizes available** - **[Buy at Amazon](https://amzn.to/34g9SLH)** The Centari is a serious synthetic sleeping bag.  It’s got features that translate into real-world use, like the two zippers.  One zipper goes full length and the other is a partial-length zip so you can ventilate the bag or partially open it for using your hands.   It’s also got attachments for your sleeping pad, which means you won’t roll off the pad and end up freezing. The mummy shape of the Centari is very generous, which is good if you are a larger size person or just want some extra room.  However, it does mean that you will use more body heat for warming up the bag.  The feet area is quite large too, so your feet could end up getting cold.  You’ll want to stuff some extra clothes into the bottom of the bag on very frigid nights camping! The insulation of the Centari is made in a way that allows them to save weight but still provide warmth.  It’s put in zones, focusing on the torso area.  Again, if you are prone to cold feet, you’ll need to put something in the bottom of the bag to keep your toes warm! It’s nice that this sleeping bag comes in three different sizes.  So, if you have children and need a bag for them, this is a good choice. --- ![big agnes elks park sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/big-agnes-elks-park-sleeping-bag-copy.jpg "big agnes elks park sleeping bag copy - Mom Goes Camping") **Quick Stats:** - **Weight:** 7lbs 4oz - **Temperature Rating (Low):** -20F - **Comfort Rating:** N/G - **Compressed size:** About 24×12” - **Cinchable hood** - **Double zippers** - **Opens into quilt** - **No draft tube** - **Integrated sleeping pad sleeve** - **Thermolite Extra insulation** - This sleeping bag is a very different than the others. It is designed so that it can be opened up and turned into a quilt.  Bear in mind that camping in a quilt requires a bit more skill than a standard sleeping bag.  Also, because there aren’t any draft tubes and it’s rectangular when zipped, it won’t be as warm as a mummy bag. People absolutely love the bag for how roomy it is.  Even really tall and big people can move around in the bag.  Unfortunately, Big Agnes doesn’t give a comfort temperature rating for the bag. However, users say it kept them warm in the low teens without a problem. The main issue with the sleeping bag is that it is huge and heavy.  It barely fits in the stuff sack which measures about two feet long and one foot wide!  It weighs in at over 7lbs.  Definitely for car camping only! However, if you want something more versatile – such as if you need a quilt to go over your normal sleeping bag or for sleeping in your car – this is a good option. **Don’t forget about my ebook.  It’s got 50+ vegan backpacking recipes, plus lots of info about how to plan delicious, healthy meals while camping out.  I’ll even give you [50% off](https://gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck/50off) because you are vegan. 😀** **[Get the book for 50% off here ](https://gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck/50off)** ![dehydrator backpacking recipes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/book-with-tablet.png "book with tablet - Mom Goes Camping") --- Image credit: “[Tips for Winter Camping.](https://www.flickr.com/photos/vastateparksstaff/45948115665/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [vastateparksstaff](https://www.flickr.com/people/vastateparksstaff/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** sleeping bags, vegan, winter --- ### [Paria Buckskin Gulch Packing List](https://momgoescamping.com/paria-buckskin-gulch-packing-list/) **Published:** March 11, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Last year my dad hiked the Paria Buckskin Gulch. I had him share his packing list. He’s an avid thru-hiker and the type who tries to get as lightweight as possible.  Here’s what he packed for the 4-day hike. **Notes:** - **Total starting weight was 32lbs. This includes 11,000 calories and 3 liters of water.** - The hike was at the end of June - Temperatures were expected to be in the 85-105F range (they ended up only being 90F) - There are horse flies in Paria Buckskin Gulch. That’s why tights are on the packing list. - The insect repellent in the picture was transferred to a smaller bottle - The weather forecast was good so he didn’t pack the backpack upper compartment or tent fly. - Rope is required at a couple of locations. - There was a fire north of the Grand Canyon during the hike. The sky was dark the first day and the water was full of ashes for the entire trek. - I personally would have brought a first aid kit. This is what’s in [my kit](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-first-aid-kit-checklist/). ## Paria Buckskin Gulch Packing List ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/paria-buckskin-packing-list.jpg "paria buckskin packing list - Mom Goes Camping") **Clothes** - **Socks (worn plus 2)** - **Shorts (worn)** - **Sneakers (worn)** - **Compression shorts, spandex** - **UV long sleeve shirt** - **Short sleeve polyester shirt** - **Camp sandals** - **Sun hat** - **Polartec tights** **Gear** - **Pack** - **Compass** - **SPOT Finder** - **Multi-tool** - **Flashlight** - **Trekking poles** - **Waterproof matches** - **8 meters rope** - **Whistle** - **Duct tape (on trekking pole)** **Cooking Gear** - **Fuel** - **Tent (no fly)** - **Sleeping bag** - **Sleeping pad** - **Stove** - **Cup** - **Pot and cover** - **Spoon** **Water** - **CamelBak** - **Coffee filters (pre-filtering water)** - **Plastic water bottles** - **Water purification liquid** - **Water filter** **Hygiene** - **Toothbrush, paste and floss** - **Wag bag** - **Toilet paper** - **Medical tape** - **Sunscreen** - **Safety pins** - **Chapstick**  **Other** - **Batteries** - **Camera** - **Garabage bags** - **Insect repellent** - **Sunglasses** - **Wallet/money/cards** - **Book, notepad, pen** - **Personal meds** --- Image credits: Robert Huebner (my dad) and “[Cesspool](https://www.flickr.com/photos/atbaker/4686431329/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [AlphaTangoBravo / Adam Baker](https://www.flickr.com/people/atbaker/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [Best Base Layers for Babies and Young Toddlers](https://momgoescamping.com/base-layers-babies-toddlers/) **Published:** October 25, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** If you want to take your baby or toddler outdoors in cold weather, they need to be dressed in layers – starting with the right base layer. Here I will go over the best options for baby and toddler base layers, including budget picks and how to save money. ## Quick Picks: - **Best Overall:** [The North Face Waffle Onesie](https://amzn.to/45IoV02) - **Best Merino Wool Base Layer:** [Ecoable top](https://amzn.to/4747Y0S) and [tights](https://amzn.to/470iarb) - **Best for Babies:** [Ecoable Footed Romper](https://amzn.to/48ZWDkt) - **Best for Skiing:** [Helly Hansen LIFA thermals](https://amzn.to/4748xrw) - **Budget Pick:** [Terramar 20 Free Ride](https://amzn.to/4dUMUyn) or [Mini-T base layers](https://amzn.to/3Fss4WO) **Also read:** [**Best Snow Suits for Crawling Babies and Young Toddlers**](https://momgoescamping.com/best-snow-suits-babies-toddlers/) ## What Material Is Best for Baby Base Layers? Merino Wool is by far the best material for base layers because it: - **Wicks moisture and retains heat even when wet.** These properties are particularly important for children in diapers.  Even small leak can leave them feeling COLD and unable to regulate body temperature. and is soft against the skin. - **Doesn’t get stinky: S**o your little one can wear the base layers multiple times before they need to be washed. - **Is soft:** Because babies have such sensitive skin, some brands blend their Merino base layers with silk to make it even softer. The downside is that Merino wool base layers are EXPENSIVE.  They also shouldn’t be put in the dryer if you want them to last.  Synthetic base layers are a cheaper alternative and are more durable. Whatever you do, **avoid cotton and bamboo base layers.** These materials absorb water and will leave your baby feeling cold. **Also read: [Is Merino wool worth it?](https://momgoescamping.com/is-merino-wool-worth-it/)** ### Base Layers Should Be a THIN Material Avoid the urge to get thick base layers for your baby. Unless you are taking your baby or toddler out in very cold weather, your child’s base layer should be made from a THIN material.   Keep in mind that experts advise against taking toddlers and babies outdoors at all if the wind chill is 10F or below. It’s easier to regulate your child’s body temperature with thin base layers.  If you are worried about them being warm enough, then get a thicker mid layer. ## Saving Money on Base Layers I’m lucky and find most of my kids’ base layers in secondhand stores (but I don’t mind buying ones with holes or stains).  You can sometimes find good deals on new base layers in the REI Outlet section.  REI has also recently started a used section. If you are on a tight budget, spend it on the base layers.  You can get away with a cheap mid and shell layer if your base layers are good. Plus, you can use the base layers are pajamas for your child through multiple seasons. ### Can I Size Up Base Layers? I size up pretty much all of my kids’ clothing so they can get more use out of them.  But base layers should NOT be sized up.  For them to wick moisture well and keep your child warm, they need to sit close against the skin. On a positive note, I’ve found that wool base layers get stretched out a bit so they still fit my kids the next season.  Stretchy synthetics (like ones with more spandex content or made from thinner materials) also get stretched, so your child may be able to wear them longer too. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/base-layer-on-toddler-in-ski-gear.jpg "base layer on toddler in ski gear - Mom Goes Camping")Base layers should be a thin material which sits snuggly against the body ### Important: Lots of “Base Layers” Aren’t Really Base Layers It used to be that only outdoorsy people used the term “base layers.”  Now the term is mainstream.  Because of this, a lot of brands advertise their clothing as base layers –even when they clearly are NOT base layers. For example, you’ll see a lot of cotton thermals advertised as base layers.  These are okay to wear as pajamas.  But cotton doesn’t wick moisture, so shouldn’t be worn as a base layer.  Likewise, fleece is too thick to be worn as a base layer.  It’s better off as a mid layer. ## Best Baby and Toddler Base Layers ### 1. North Face One-Piece Waffle Base Layer [![north face toddler waffle base layer](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/north-face-toddler-waffle-base-layer.jpg "north face toddler waffle base layer - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/north-face-toddler-waffle-base-layer.jpg) **Verdict: Best overall but a pricy** This onesie base layer by The North Face is super cute and comes in several designs.  The fabric is ultra-soft and stretchy, so great for babies or active toddlers.   The stretch means your child may be able to wear it for a few seasons, though the hands/legs could end up too short. The main reason you’ll love it though is because diaper changes are easy with the snaps. There are also snaps to make it easier to get over your child’s head. **Specs:** - **Sizes:** 0-24 months - **Material:** Polyester waffle knit - **FlashDry technology** - **Made with 100% recycled materials** - **Snaps for diaper changes** - **Machine washable** - **Available at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/45IoV02)** --- ### 2. Ecoable Thermal Footed Romper **Verdict: Best for babies and for sensitive skin** [![merino wool footed base layer for babies and toddlers](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/merino-wool-footed-base-layer-for-babies-and-toddlers.jpg "merino wool footed base layer for babies and toddlers - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/merino-wool-footed-base-layer-for-babies-and-toddlers.jpg) Ecoable makes really high-quality Merino wool clothing.  A lot of their baby clothing (including this romper) is made from a wool-silk blend.  It is extra soft on the skin while still having great wicking and warmth properties.  However, it does mean that you should only hand-wash this romper and the price is higher. If you don’t want a romper, Ecoable also makes [this onesie top](https://amzn.to/4747Y0S) (infant to 3 year old sizes), [these tights](https://amzn.to/470iarb) (sizes 12 months to 8 years) and [these bottoms](https://amzn.to/3FOfulf) (3 months to 3 years sizes). **Specs:** - **Sizes:** 0-24 months - **Material:** Organic wool-silk blend (70%/30%) - **Footed** - **Snaps for diaper changes** - **Hand wash only** - **[Get it here](https://amzn.to/48ZWDkt)** --- ### 3. Helly Hansen LIFA Merino Base Layer Set [![helly hansen toddler base layer set](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/helly-hansen-toddler-base-layer-set.jpg "helly hansen toddler base layer set - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/helly-hansen-toddler-base-layer-set.jpg) **Verdict: Best for skiing or very active toddlers in very cold weather** Helly Hansen clothing is expensive but use great fabric technology.  These base layers have a Merino wool exterior.  The inner lining is the brand’s synthetic “LIFA” fabric which has excellent wicking properties. The combination of the two fabrics make these base layers more durable.  The seams are also well-made and flat so they won’t itch.  You can also see the quality in the cut of the garments: there’s a crotch gusset and reinforced elbows to allow for extra movement. At 215g/m2, these are thick base layers. They are probably overkill for babies and really little toddlers. However, they are great for skiing or very active toddlers who get sweaty and need base layers with a flexible fit. **Specs:** - **Sizes:** 1-9 - **Material:** 57% Merino, 43% synthetic - **Reinforced knees and elbows** - **Flat lock seams** - **Machine washable** - **Available at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/4748xrw)** --- ### 4. Terramar 2.0 Free Ride Heritage Toddlers Base Layer Set [![terramar base layer set for toddlers](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/terramar-base-layer-set-for-toddlers.jpg "terramar base layer set for toddlers - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/terramar-base-layer-set-for-toddlers.jpg) **Verdict: Affordable base layer for toddlers** These synthetic base layers are really affordable and yet still good quality. Don’t expect any fancy features like reinforced knees though at this price! The material is thin but does a good job of wicking moisture.  They are softer and more flexible than the REI base layer material, so your child may be able to wear them longer. The calves are pretty tight and ankle holes fairly small, so you may need to size up if you have a chubby toddler.   It’s too bad they don’t come in baby sizes. **Specs:** - **Sizes:** 2T, 3T, 4T - **Material:** Polyester - **UPF 25 rating** - **[Available at Amazon](https://amzn.to/4dUMUyn)** --- ### 5. Mini-T Base Layers![](https://ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&language=en_US&l=li3&o=1&a=B0BJDT7K7N) ![MiNi-K Toddler Fleece Lined Base Layer](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/31ughP+RAQL._SL500_.jpg) **Verdict: Good budget pick in sizes from 1 year old** These are one of the cheapest base layers you’ll find for little kids which are still made from decent material. They surprisingly withstand washings without the seams unraveling too. The brand says that there is a microfleece lining, but it’s more of a soft material inside than a true microfleece. **Specs:** - **Sizes:** 12 months to 12 years - **Material:** 88% Polyester, 12% Polyurethane - **Machine washable** - **[Get them here](https://amzn.to/3Fss4WO)** --- ###### Image credits: “[Ski Baby](https://www.flickr.com/photos/bdewey/5362921040/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [B.K. Dewey](https://www.flickr.com/people/bdewey/), “[Danish wool products airing out](https://www.flickr.com/photos/scandinavianliving/23723957624/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Scandinavian Living USA](https://www.flickr.com/people/scandinavianliving/), ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear, Camping with Kids --- ### [How to Bring Backpacking and Camping Gear on an Airplane](https://momgoescamping.com/flying-backpacking-gear-airplane/) **Published:** May 16, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Want to go backpacking or camping, but need to fly to the location?  It can actually be really tricky – or impossible – to bring certain gear on an airplane.  I’ll go over all the specifics of flying with backpacking gear, including stoves, bear spray and trekking poles. ## Quick Summary: When flying, you’ll need to check almost all of your backpacking gear.  Keep spare lithium batteries as well as certain valuable or hard-to-replace items in your carry-on. To protect your pack and avoid additional inspection, put your pack inside a large duffel bag before checking it. Bear spray and fuel for your stove are completley forbidden on planes, so you’ll need to get these when you arrive at your destination. ## Are Backpacks Allowed As Checked Luggage? Backpacks are allowed as checked luggage.  So long as it doesn’t exceed baggage dimension requirements, you shouldn’t have to pay extra to use a backpack instead of a suitcase.  For most airlines, the maximum linear dimensions (L + W + H) cannot exceed 62 inches. **However, you might come across some issues when trying to check your pack.** - **Some airlines will only accept backpacks as “fragile” luggage.** If something like a strap or buckle breaks, they aren’t liable. - **You might have to go to the oversized baggage counter.** I’ve had this happen to me. It isn’t a big deal, but it means you have to wait in another line. Which could mean you end up missing your flight. ### Tip: Put your entire backpack inside a large duffle bag. Or something similar like an Ikea bag or cardboard box. This will protect the straps.  It also means your backpack won’t be considered “fragile” and you probably won’t be sent to the oversized luggage area. Also, apparently **airlines are only required to cover the *interior contents* of checked baggage but not the baggage itself.**  By putting your pack inside another bag, the pack itself would be covered for damages. I’ve also heard stories of people having their gear confiscated or stolen out of their pack.  Putting the pack inside a duffel bag limits visibility so you are less likely to undergo inspections and have anything taken. There are a lot of [good duffle bags](https://www.divein.com/outdoor/duffel-bag/). I like [this REI duffel bag](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F118870%2Frei-co-op-pack-duffel-bag): a 65L pack plus boots and a jacket will fit in it.  Osprey also makes the [Airporter](https://www.amazon.com/Osprey-Airporter-Backpack-Travel-Cover/dp/B00RZV0WFU?th=1&psc=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=60b5a0343c9ea9c5faa59faf99eadb88&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) for this purpose.  Most hotels will hold onto the bag for you so you don’t have to carry it while hiking.  If not, then you put your backpack inside a large cardboard box.  Then you can just toss the box when you arrive and not worry about storing it. ![](https://ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&language=en_US&l=li3&o=1&a=B00RZV0WFU) ## Is It Better to Just Mail Gear to the Destination? In almost all cases, mailing backpacking gear to your destination is going to cost a lot more than paying for checked baggage.  You might be able to make it work by bringing all your heavy/allowed gear as carry-on and mailing the rest, but it will still probably be cheaper and easier to just check the gear. ## What Backpacking Gear is Allowed in Checked Luggage? The TSA has a thorough [list](https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/whatcanibring/sporting-and-camping?page=0) of which camping gear they allow on flights.  Not surprisingly, a lot of backpacking gear isn’t allowed as carry-on, so it’s almost inevitable that you’ll need to pay for checked luggage. **Even if gear is allowed in carry-on, it’s still probably better to pack it in checked luggage.**  Why? Because it will be a pain when airport security makes you completely unpack your bag to inspect every piece of gear. There are some exceptions to this though, which I’ll talk about below. ### Tents The tent itself is allowed as carry-on, but tent poles and stakes must go in checked luggage.  The stakes must be “sheathed or securely wrapped to prevent injury to baggage handlers and inspectors.” ### Stoves Camp stoves are allowed in both carry-on and checked baggage.  However, the stove must be completely empty and clean.  It’s generally better to keep your stove in checked baggage.  Otherwise you risk delays at security as they inspect your stove.  They might even say you aren’t allowed to take the stove.  It’s generally useless trying to argue with security and explain that you cleaned it. ### Fuel for Stoves Fuel for backpacking stoves isn’t allowed in checked or carry-on baggage.  This means your only solution is to get fuel when you arrive at your destination. - **Compressed Gas Canisters:** Look for retailers at the destination. Especially when traveling abroad, make sure the canisters use the same nozzle as your stove.  Don’t assume the canisters will be compatible. - **Alcohol:** Alcohol stoves are also good for traveling abroad because it’s easy to find alcohol almost everywhere, though you might have a fun time explaining in a foreign language that you *don’t* want alcohol for drinking. 🙂 - **Multi-fuel stove canisters:** A lot of backpackers use a multi-fuel stove because you can pretty much always find gasoline. You can bring empty fuel canisters on checked or carry-on luggage. The canister must be labeled. All parts also must be completely disconnected  – including the hose and regulator valves.  Otherwise they will confiscate your canister and its parts. ### Lighters Lighters are surprisingly allowed on carry-on and checked luggage.  They can even have fuel in them.  However, they have to be disposable lighters or Zippo type lighters. You can’t bring electronic lighters (not sure why you’d want to bring one backpacking anyway though). ### Bear Spray Bear spray (as well as bear bangers) is not allowed in checked or carry-on luggage.  This is particularly annoying because it’s not always possible to find bear spray at your destination.  Plus, it is expensive to buy, only to leave it when you fly home. **Here are some solutions.** - **Rent Bear Spray:** Some National Parks rent bear spray. These include Yellowstone and Glacier.  Some local gear outfitters also rent bear spray, so see if that is an option. - **Ask locals:** You could also ask in local backpacker/hiking groups if someone could loan you their bear spray. People may surprise you with their kindness. 🙂 - **Ship to your destination:** In the USA, you can send bear spray in the mail. You’ll need to have an address to send it to though (some hotels might accept packages for guests).  Note that bear spray has to be sent with ground mail and could take 2+ weeks to arrive. ### Hiking Poles Hiking poles aren’t allowed in carry-on but are allowed in checked luggage.  Make sure they are *inside* your pack and not strapped to the outside. ### Other Gear - **Crampons and snow spikes:** Crampons are sometimes allowed in carry-on but, if they have any serious spikes, they have to go in checked baggage. They must be in a box or case so TSA doesn’t get poked if they open your gear. - **Hand warmers:** Are allowed in carry-on and checked baggage. - **Potty trowel:** If it is pointy, then play it safe and check it. TSA might consider it a sharp object like a knife. ## Batteries and Power Banks Rechargeable NiMH batteries are allowed in both carry-on and checked luggage.  Lithium batteries are allowed in checked-luggage *if they are in their device.* However, **spare lithium batteries – including power banks – are only allowed in carry-on.**  This is because, in some situations, lithium batteries can burst into flames and cause a fire in the cargo hold. You will need to pack all power banks in your carry-on baggage.  If you are bringing a solar panel with a built-in battery, it also has to go in carry-on. You’ll also need to pack any spare lithium batteries you have, such as [18650 cells](https://momgoescamping.com/18650-backpacking-power/), so they are “protected from short circuit.”  Basically, you can’t have a bunch of loose batteries in your bag.  They should be in a case or sleeve.  You can also put tape over the terminals or put each battery in its own plastic bag. Unless you have some massive lithium batteries, there are no limits to how many spare lithium batteries you can bring in carry-on. Read the details of the rule [here](https://www.faa.gov/hazmat/packsafe/more_info/?hazmat=7). ## Gear That Should Go in Carry-On There is some backpacking gear that I always leave in my carry-on.  Basically, anything that is expensive and/or I wouldn’t be able to easily replace at my destination.   For example, I would always keep these items in carry-on: - Headlamps - Water filter - GPS - Personal location device - Camera - Pricy jackets ## Will Backpacking Water Filters Freeze in Checked Luggage? All modern airplanes have temperature-controlled cargo holds.  The cargo area might not be as warm as the cabin, but it does not get below freezing temperatures.  So, you don’t have to worry about your hollow fiber water filter freezing. Despite this, I still always pack my water filter (a Sawyer Mini) in my carry-on.  It often isn’t easy to get water filters at your destination.  If arriving somewhere which has Amazon and other next-day shipping services, this isn’t a big deal.  But Amazon still isn’t available in many parts of the world.  If your trip would be completely ruined if your water filter was lost, then keep it in carry-on. ## Have a Backup Plan! It doesn’t happen often, but airlines do sometimes lose luggage.  Or you may have to wait for weeks while the airline “looks” for your lost luggage. Make sure you have a backup plan so you don’t have to completely cancel your trip. --- Resources: <https://www.easa.europa.eu/domains/passengers/dangerous-goods> https://janetpanic.com/how-cold-does-the-luggage-compartment-of-a-plane-get/ <https://avia-pro.net/blog/bagazhnyy-otsek-samoleta> https://www.united.com/en/us/fly/contract-of-carriage.html#rule-23 <https://www.quora.com/At-what-temperature-is-checked-in-luggage-stored-in-an-airplane> <https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/94wkzf/flying_with_backpacking_gear/> Image credit: “[Organizing Backpack Gear](https://www.flickr.com/photos/cogdog/16918154738/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [cogdogblog](https://www.flickr.com/people/cogdog/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [Naturehike Cloud Up 3 Review](https://momgoescamping.com/naturehike-cloud-up-3p/) **Published:** July 7, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I’ve had the Cloud Up 2 tent by Naturehike for over 5 years now (read [my review of it here](https://momgoescamping.com/naturehike-cloudup-2-review/)).   While that tent is perfect for when I’m camping solo or with my daughter, I also need something a bit roomier for when I’m camping with another adult.  I spent a lot of time looking at lightweight 3P tents and ultimately decided to go with Naturehike again.  Here’s what I think of the Cloud Up 3P tent and what it’s best for. ## Cloud Up 3 Specs (Gray Version): - **Weight:** 5.3lbs - **Max Headroom:** 43.3” - **Interior Length/Width:** 82.7”/70.8” - **Vestibule Size:** 29.5” (depth) x 41.3”/70.8” (front/back) - **Packed Size:** 7.1”x20” - **Pockets:** 4 - **Available At: [Amazon](https://www.naturehike.com/collections/all-tents/products/naturehike-cloud-up-series-20d-tent-for-3-person-nh18t030-t?variant=36366607515802), [Aliexpress](https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DCO8znf)** ## Quick Verdict: You’ll be hard-pressed to find a lightweight freestanding 3p backpacking tent which is as affordable as the Cloud Up 3.  The crossbar at the top means you actually get decent headroom and interior space inside.  If you don’t mind that it only has one door and vestibule, the Cloud Up 3 a great backpacking or camping tent for two adults or two adults and one small kid. ### Pros: - **Affordable** - **Lightweight** - **Good ventilation** - **Fast and easy setup** - **Durable and withstands some abuse** ### Cons: - **Supposed to sleep with head towards door** - **Fly-only setup doesn’t work well** - **Only one door and vestibule** - **Not as many features as other 3P UL tents** ## Weight of the Cloud Up 3 Tent [![total trail weight of cloud up 3](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/total-trail-weight-of-cloud-up-3.jpg "total trail weight of cloud up 3 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/total-trail-weight-of-cloud-up-3.jpg) The official weight of the Cloud Up 3 tent is 5.3lbs/2.4kg. I put it on a scale and the weight actually came in lighter at 5.1lbs/2.331kg (I think the extra weight is from the plastic that the tent is wrapped in for shipping, which you obviously remove before using). You actually don’t need all 14 stakes or the cordage which comes with the Cloud Up 3p.  When you remove this, **the trail weight is just 4.9lbs/2.243kg.** The Cloud Up 3 footprint weighs 390g. If you decide to skip the footprint (which I don’t recommend), you can get the weight down to 4.2lbs/1.9kg. ### Weight Breakdown: - Inner mesh tent: 1.37lbs/623g - Fly: 1.29lbs/587g - Poles: 1.26lbs/571g - 9 stakes: 0.2lbs/90g - Footprint: 0.75lbs/340g - Carry bag: 0.95oz/27g - Additional stakes (5) and cordage: 3oz/90g [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/weight-of-footprint-for-cloud-up-3.jpg "weight of footprint for cloud up 3 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/weight-of-footprint-for-cloud-up-3.jpg)The footprint is heavy but I always use a footprint with an UL tent ## Price vs. Weight of the Cloud Up 3 The main draw of Naturehike tents, including the Cloud Up 3, is that they are VERY affordable.  To put the price in perspective, the cheapest 3-person tent in this weight range at REI right now costs twice as much as the Cloud Up 3. There are tents which are cheaper than the Cloud Up 3, but I have yet to find one which is this cheap, lightweight and still freestanding.  The closest I’ve found is the [Marmot Crane UL 3P](https://amzn.to/3O1ZPDI).  It’s 5lbs 3oz but still costs significantly more than the Cloud Up 3. Of course, there are lots of 3p tents which are lighter weight than the Cloud Up 3. **For example:** - **Big Agnes Copper Spur 3:** 3lbs 15oz (plus 8oz footprint) - **Big Agnes Tiger Wall UL 3:** 2lbs 15oz (plus 7oz footprint) - **NEMO Hornet OSMO UL 3P:** 3lbs 5oz (plus 9.2oz footprint) These tents are pretty awesome – but cost 2x or even 3x the amount of the Cloud Up 3.  And don’t forget that the foot print for these UL tents can cost another $50-$100. If I wasn’t worried about my tent getting stolen in some of the places I camp, I might be fine shelling out this much money to save ~10oz of weight.  It’s your call how much shedding weight is worth to you. ## Size and Roominess ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/cloud-up-2-vs-3-side-by-side-view.jpg "cloud up 2 vs 3 side by side view - Mom Goes Camping")*The Cloud Up 3 next to my Cloud Up 2* After using a 2p tent for so long, the Cloud Up 3 feels like a palace.  The crossbar on the top does wonders for giving you more interior space.  The walls don’t slant or droop too much so you actually get a usable interior. Bear in mind that the Cloud Up 3 is still going to be a bit cramped with two larger adults.  I can’t imagine using it with three adults (even skinny ones) because of how annoying it would be to get in/out without waking the fellow campers. But this is really the perfect size for my backpacking trips with another adult.  I can even sleep in it with my partner and my 5 year old (which beats our previous setup of bringing a 1p and 2p tent).  My teen daughter and her friend slept in the Cloud Up 3 on the trip where these photos are from.  They played card games in the tent at night, so it was nice that it was large enough that they could hang out in it. [![cloud up 3 front view without fly](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/cloud-up-3-front-view-without-fly.jpg "cloud up 3 front view without fly - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/cloud-up-3-front-view-without-fly.jpg) [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/cloud-up-3-side-view-without-fly.jpg "cloud up 3 side view without fly - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/cloud-up-3-side-view-without-fly.jpg) ### You’re Supposed to Sleep with Your Head Towards the Door This is becaus the back of the tent is narrower than the front. I never sleep this way though (I want a view and don’t want to enter the tent feet-first!) If  you actually want to fit three people in the tent though, you’ll have to sleep with your heads towards the door. ## Only One Door and Vestibule Most 3 person backpacking tents today have two doors and two vestibules. The Cloud Up 3 only has one. I personally prefer one door (I’d rather have one entrance and orient it so everyone gets the best view).  However, if you like to sleep parallel to the door for easier in/out, then you won’t like this about the Cloud Up 3. ![Cloud Up 3 doorway](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/one-door-on-cloud-up-3-naturehike.jpg "one door on cloud up 3 naturehike - Mom Goes Camping") ## Setting Up the Cloud Up 3 The Cloud Up 3 is a two-layer freestanding tent.  It is incredibly easy to set up and takes under 5 minutes to do by yourself.   You need to stake out 9 points (4 corners, 1 per side and back wall and 2 for the vestibule).   There are also some additional stakeout points for bad weather. There are two important things to be aware of: ### Insert Crossbar Pole First! ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/cross-beam-of-naturehike-cloudup-3.jpg "cross beam of naturehike cloudup 3 - Mom Goes Camping") Before taking the Cloud Up 3 backpacking, I set it up in my yard (you always do this with new gear, right?). I first put the corner poles in place and then tried to attach the crossbar pole on top.  I could not get the crossbar pole in place! It was simply too taut.  Plus, it was awkward to reach the other side of the crossbar once the tent was standing up (I’m short).  I think you’d need to have two people to get the crossbar pole. The solution?  Simply connect the crossbar pole FIRST (while the tent is still on the ground).  Then do the corner poles.  With this method, I was able to easily setup the Cloud Up 3 alone. ### The Poles Have a Front and Back Side The Cloud Up 3 poles are two V’s connected with a pole.  At first glance, the V’s look identical. But one of them is actually smaller than the other.  This one goes in the back of the tent.  Pay attention to this or you will have to detach the poles and turn them around. ## Quick Pitch Fly-Only Setup With the Naturehike Cloud Up 2p version, it’s possible to set up the tent with just the fly and not the inner mesh tent. This gives you an even lighter weight shelter for situations when bugs aren’t a concern. In theory, the fly-only setup is also possible with the Cloud Up 3p.   However, the fly doesn’t have any pockets for holding the crossbar in position.  Instead, you have to use the two extra tie-outs on the wall to get the poles to stay in position.  The crossbar area of the fly isn’t even reinforced, so I worry that the crossbar would eventually tear a hole in the fly if you used the quick pitch frequently. Other UL 3p backpacking tents have little pockets in the fly for the quick pitch option.  But, at those prices, I would expect them to sort out all of the details! [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/cloud-up-3-quick-pitch-fast-fly.jpg "cloud up 3 quick pitch fast fly - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/cloud-up-3-quick-pitch-fast-fly.jpg) ## Ventilation and Condensation There are two vents on the Cloud Up 3.  I haven’t had a chance to test the tent in cold weather yet.  However, condensation has never been a problem with my older Cloud Up 2 tent which doesn’t have any vents at all (the newer one does have a vent).  So, I don’t expect this to be an issue with the Cloud Up 3 either. ## Storage The Cloud Up 3 has four pockets, all located near the front door.  A minor complaint is that there is only one hook and it’s also located near the door.  I utilize that hook for hanging a headlamp and my glasses.  So, I would prefer to have the hook overhead in the middle of the tent. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/cloud-up-3-inside-view.jpg "cloud up 3 inside view - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/cloud-up-3-inside-view.jpg)The 4 storage pockets and 1 hook are all near the doorway **Check Prices of the Cloud Up 3 at [Amazon](https://www.naturehike.com/collections/all-tents/products/naturehike-cloud-up-series-20d-tent-for-3-person-nh18t030-t?variant=36366607515802) and [Aliexpress](https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DCO8znf)** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [Best Winter Hiking Gloves and Mitts (for Actually Keeping Your Hands Warm)](https://momgoescamping.com/best-winter-hiking-gloves/) **Published:** December 12, 2018 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Most of us know that we need to layer our clothes to stay warm in cold weather.  The same principle also applies to winter hiking gloves.  If it’s not too cold, you can get by wearing insulated gloves.  But, when it gets *really* cold, you’ll need to wear three layers: A liner glove, insulating glove or mitten, and an overmitt. This system will keep your hands from getting sweaty, keep them warm, and still allow you to use your hands for tasks like opening water bottles.  Here are some of the best winter hiking gloves, plus how to wear gloves so your hands actually stay warm when hiking in cold weather. ## **Best Winter Hiking Gloves and Mitts** ### 1. Outdoor Research Meteor Mitts These are one of the most popular winter gloves and are made with hiking and backpacking in mind.  The best thing about these gloves is probably their dexterity; the fold-back fingers on the fleece layer mean you’ll be able to get your fingers out for camp tasks. They are also pretty lightweight compared to other winter hiking mittens.  Just note that you’ll still need to wear a liner glove with these to wick sweat away. **Features:** - Waterproof/windproof nylon shell - Synthetic palms - Removable 300g fleece insulating layer with fold-back finger flaps - Magnets to hold back finger flaps - Hand-warmer pocket - Cinch gauntlet closure - 10.8oz per pair - Men and women’s versions available - Affordable - [Buy At Amazon](https://amzn.to/2C41jZ8) --- ### 2. Outdoor Research Alti Mitts These are another pair of winter mitts by Outdoor Research.  Compared to the Meteor mitts above, they are much warmer.  The shell itself is insulated.  It also includes an insulating liner mitten. Both the shell and the liner mitten use PrimaLoft insulation the back of the hands and thumbs.  This insulation is very good at resisting moisture.  The palms are insulated with fleece. Compared to the Meteor mittens above, these mittens are much warmer.  The tradeoff is that the mitts are bulkier and heavier (and quite pricier).  If you need more dexterity, then go with the Meteor gloves.  If you need more warmth, then choose these. As with the Meteor gloves, you’ll still want to wear a liner glove under these. **Features:** - Gore-Tex nylon 40D shell with 170g PrimaLoft gold insulation - Anti-slip leather palms - Removable 340g PrimaLof insulating mitten - Extra long wrist area - Hand-warmer pocket - Designed for serious alpine and arctic use! - 12.8oz for pair (Men’s large weight) - Men’s and women’s available - [Buy At Amazon](https://amzn.to/3QTT7AC) --- ### 3. Burton Gore-Tex Mitten Burton is known for making ski and snowboarding gear.  Their gloves and mitts also work great for hiking, especially this one.  It consists of two parts: an insulated shell and a liner glove. The shell is made from Dryride with a Gore-Tex membrane.  This makes it waterproof and windproof yet still breathable. The shell also has built-in insulation made from Thermcore. When the weather isn’t too cold, you can wear just the shell. The removable liner is made from DRYRIDE Thermex, which is a very stretchy material.  There is rubber-like texture on the fingers for improved grip. The shell is good for semi-cold weather hiking. **Features:** - Dryride 2-layer shell with Thermacore insulation and Gore-tex membrane, - Removable liner - Hand-warmer pocket - Touchscreen compatible - Wrist leash - Men’s and women’s available - [Buy Men’s here](https://amzn.to/2EfTKjC), [Buy Women’s here](https://amzn.to/2QKaZQI) --- ### 4. Black Diamond Mercury Mitts These mitts by Black Diamond are very warm without costing a fortune.  They consist of a shell made from BD Dry, which is mostly nylon with a bit of spandex for stretch.  It’s rated to 10,000mm waterproofness!  The palm is from goat leather, so extra durable. The removable insulating layer is waterproof and made from 340g PrimaLoft Gold fleece. The design of this layer is unique in that it has a split-finger: the thumb and index are separate, and the remaining three fingers are together.  This gives you the warmth that comes with mittens but some of the dexterity of gloves. Because the fleece layer is waterproof, I’d still recommend wearing a wicking liner glove with these mitts. There are wrist cinches on both the shell and liner glove, but a few features are missing.  There aren’t any wrist straps, nor is there a pocket for hand warmers.  This is why they don’t get a higher rating in the list of winter hiking gloves. **Features:** - Waterproof shell made BD Dry - Leather palm - Removable waterproof fleece liner with 340g PrimaLoft Gold insulation - Wrist cinches - No wrist leashes or hand-warmer pocket - [Buy At Amazon](https://amzn.to/36FLMew) --- ### 5. Hestra Heli Three-Finger Gloves ![Hestra Gloves Heli Three-Finger Insulated Gloves](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Hestra-Gloves-Heli-Three-Finger-Insulated-Gloves-REI-Co-op-copy.jpg "Hestra Gloves Heli Three-Finger Insulated Gloves REI Co-op copy - Mom Goes Camping") These gloves are very popular for hiking and winter camping because of their three-finger design.  You get more dexterity without sacrificing the warmth of a mitten. The outer shell is windproof and water-resistant (not waterproof, but good enough for most snowy conditions).  The three-layer fabric is fairly breathable and the leather palms are very durable. The removable liner is insulated with polyester.  It’s a 5-finger liner, so it’s the better choice when you need more dexterity. There are some nice extra features, like wrist cinches and wrist leashes.  These are probably also the most comfortable gloves thanks to their pre-curved fingers.  They definitely are a pricier option, though they overall get great reviews. In very cold weather of it you get sweaty hands, you’ll still want to wear a thin moisture-wicking liner glove with these mitts. **Features:** - Waterproof, water-resistant 3-layer breathable shell - Leather palm - Removable insulated liner glove - Wrist leash and cinches - Pre-curved fingers - [Buy At Amazon](https://amzn.to/2RWjpVi) --- ### 6. Dakine Leather Scout Mittens ![dakine scout leather mittens](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/dakine-glove-copy.jpg "dakine glove copy - Mom Goes Camping") These are the most affordable winter hiking mitts listed here.  They lack a lot of the features of the other (pricier) options, but are still very good for cold weather hikes. The mitts consist of two layers.  The outer shell is made from a nylon/polyester blend with a water-resistant coating.  There is 110g of insulation on the palm and 280g of insulation on the back of the hand. This gives you good dexterity and enough warmth to wear the shell by itself in semi-cold weather. The palms are made from leather for durability. The liners are made from 150g stretch fleece which have rubber-like fingers for touchscreen compatibility. **Features:** - Water-resistant shell with 110g of insulation - Removable 5-finger insulating liner with 280g of insulation - Wrist leash - Nose wipe thumb panel - Touchscreen compatible liner - Very affordable - [Buy At Amazon](https://amzn.to/3wzTjyd) --- ### 7. Boiled Wool Gloves One hiking glove option that a lot of people don’t know about is boiled wool.  It is made by getting a too-large pair of wool gloves and boiling them for a few minutes.  Then you take them out of the water and (as soon as they are cool enough) you let them dry on your hands.  They shrink to fit over your hands. The larger the wool gloves are, the more you can let them shrink for optimal warmness. The boiling process means you get a very tight-knit wool glove.  It gives you all of the insulating properties of wool plus makes them even more water- and wind-resistant.  Boiled wool is actually what lobstermen/women in Maine use (you can read an article about boiled wool [here](https://newengland.com/today/living/crafts/boiled-wool-mittens/)). If you want to wear just one pair of gloves while hiking (though a liner glove is still recommended), this is the way to go.  You’ll get the most dexterity and still stay warm. [Dachstein](https://amzn.to/2EgEX8l) is one of the few brands that makes boiled wool gloves. **Features:** - Naturally water-resistant - Good insulator - Superb dexterity - Can be used as a liner with a waterproof shell mitt - Affordable - [Buy At Amazon](https://amzn.to/2EgEX8l) --- ### 8. Wind Rider Touchscreen Insulated Gloves ![windrider insulated gloves](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/windrider.jpg "windrider - Mom Goes Camping") This is a pair of very cheap winter gloves that, for the price, actually keep you pretty warm.  Since they are gloves and not mittens, they definitely won’t be as warm as the other mitts listed here.  They also don’t have a removable insulating layer.  You could end up sweating up a storm.  If that insulating layer gets soaked, you’ll have to remove the entire glove.  To wick away moisture, you’ll definitely need a liner glove with these – but I still wouldn’t recommend them if you have sweaty hands! For the price point though, these are a great hiking glove for temps around 30F.  There’s even some nice extra features like touchscreen fingertips and a storage pocket that can fit your keys, a hand warmer pack, or a lift pass. **Features:** - Water-resistant Cordura nylon shell - Non-removable waterproof liner with 70g of Thinsulate insulation - Good for semi-cold weather - Unisex - No wrist leash - Touchscreen compatible - Storage pocket - Very affordable - [Buy At Amazon](https://amzn.to/2SBiiHw) --- ## How to Layer Gloves for Winter Hiking ![hiking gloves semi cold weather](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/9905216994_46b5e035b3_z.jpg "hiking gloves for semi cold weather - Mom Goes Camping") Forget about wearing just one pair of gloves when hiking in very cold weather.  In fact, **you’ll probably need to wear THREE layers on your hands:** 1. **Liner gloves (aka base layer) +** 2. **Insulating layer +** 3. **Waterproof outer shell (aka overmitt)** You don’t necessarily have to wear all the layers at once.  When it is warmer out, you could just wear the liner gloves.  In moderate weather, you wear the liners with the shell over them.  This will give your hands more dexterity to do camp tasks. Note you shouldn’t wear just the insulating layer by itself.  The insulation isn’t windproof, water-resistant, or wicking.  Your hands will probably start to sweat and drench the glove.  If any snow gets on the glove, it will stick to the insulating material and melt, causing it to get wet. ## Guide to Buying Winter Hiking Gloves/Mitts ![hiking gloves in very cold weather](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/4198866714_4fa395b0b8_z.jpg "hiking gloves in very cold weather - Mom Goes Camping") If you are confused about what type of hiking gloves to get for cold winter weather, here’s a rundown of the types and features you want to look for. ### Gloves versus Mittens When it comes to warmth, mittens are superior to gloves.  Because your hands are together and surrounded by the insulation, you lose much less heat than if you were wearing gloves. Compared to mittens, gloves also cut off circulation. Take a look at your hand in natural position. Do you see any large gaps between your fingers for insulation? No! Insulated gloves will cause you to spread your fingers out unnaturally, potentially cutting off circulation.  This will make your fingers cold.  This is why mittens are so much better. However, the downside is that gloves lack dexterity.  If you need to perform a lot of hiking or camp tasks, then gloves are the way to go. The solution? To get the best of each world, choose a mitten shell with a glove insulating layer.  You can remove the shell and expose the glove for dexterity when you need to use your hands.  Just make sure that there is a wrist leash so you don’t lose your overmitt! ### **Types of Winter Hiking Gloves/Mitts** All winter gloves/mitts can be broken down into a two types. #### 1. Insulated Gloves These are a glove made from a waterproof shell with built-in insulation.  The insulating layer *cannot* be removed. The benefit of this type of glove is that they are easy: Just put the gloves on your hands.  No need to worry about putting on multiple layers or losing your overmitt.   You also get more dexterity.  They also tend to be much more affordable. On the downside, an all-in-one system isn’t going to be as breathable.  Your hands will probably end up sweaty, which means your gloves could get drenched. Since the insulation is sewn-in, you can’t remove it. #### 2. Shell Mittens with Removable Liners These consist of a waterproof/windproof shell.  Sometimes the shell contains a bit of insulation.  Then there is an insulating liner that can be removed. The two-layer system gives you a lot more versatility. You can carry an extra pair of insulating gloves (like a cheap pair of fleece gloves) to put on in case the liner gets sweaty and wet.  You can also choose to wear just the shell with a liner glove if the weather isn’t as cold. The downside is that shell mittens tend to be very pricy. They are also pretty bulky, which can make them annoying to wear when hiking or doing camp tasks. ### Features Here are some of the main features to look for when buying winter hiking gloves or mitts. - **Wrist leash:** This is a loop that goes around your wrist so you don’t lose the mitt when you remove it. You definitely want this feature with shell mittens. - **Reinforced palms:** The palm gets a lot of use when hiking with poles (which you are probably doing in winter). Leather palms are the most durable but many synthetics are nearly as tough. - **Hand-warmer pocket:** This isn’t absolutely necessary since you can put hand warmer packs right into the mitt between layers. But a pocket helps keep the pack in place so it doesn’t move around your glove/mit. - **Touchscreen compatible:** If you use devices frequently while hiking, then you need this feature. It is usually the insulating layer that has touchscreen compatibility, so you’ll need to remove the overmitt to use devices. - **Insulation amount:** Insulation is usually listed in grams. For very cold weather, you’ll want around 300g total of insulation.  Better gloves/mitts will spread out the insulation so there is less around the areas where you need more dexterity. --- ###### Some resources for this article include: <https://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/archive/index.php/t-2379.html>, <https://www.adkhighpeaks.com/forums/forum/hiking/general-hiking-information/24228-winter-hiking-glove-setup>, <https://forum.quartertothree.com/t/recommendations-for-gloves-that-actually-will-keep-my-fingers-warm/77981/14>, https://sectionhiker.com/winter-hiking-and-mountaineering-glove-systems/, <https://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php/65048-Hiking-gloves> ###### image credits: “[Can I call this a totem pole ?](https://www.flickr.com/photos/bramp/23865330530/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Bram P](https://www.flickr.com/people/bramp/) “[Grand Canyon – serious gear for serious](https://www.flickr.com/photos/alanenglish/4198866714/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Al\_HikesAZ](https://www.flickr.com/people/alanenglish/) “[Jeff – almost done](https://www.flickr.com/photos/brewbooks/9905216994/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [brewbooks](https://www.flickr.com/people/brewbooks/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** gloves, mittens, winter --- ### [Best Toddler Sleeping Bags for Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/best-toddler-sleeping-bags-camping/) **Published:** May 29, 2019 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Just a few years ago, it wasn’t possible to find camping gear like sleeping bags for toddlers.  Parents who wanted to take their kids camping would have to use too-big sleeping bags or co-sleep with their kids (which I [don’t recommend](https://momgoescamping.com/co-sleeping-baby-camping/)!). There still aren’t too many brands making toddler sleeping bags.  In fact, there are only *five* which I recommend for serious camping – and two of these are even a bit too long for young toddlers (you’ll have to tie the end of the bag). ## Best Camping Sleeping Bags for Toddlers ### 1. [Morrison Big Mo Sleeping Bag](https://momgoescamping.com/morrison-down) [![Big Mo 20 toddler sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/big-mo-sleeping-bag-e1611252046146.jpg "big mo sleeping bag - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/big-mo-sleeping-bag.jpg) The Morrison Big Mo currently is the best sleeping bag for toddlers available.  The Morrison brand was started by outdoorsy parents.  When they couldn’t find any suitable sleeping bag for their baby, they decided to make one themselves (read the [Little Mo review](https://momgoescamping.com/morrison-baby-sleeping-bag/) here).  Recently they came out with the Big Mo for toddlers. There are two versions of the sleeping bag: 20°F down bag and a 40°F synthetic bag. Both versions have sleeves, so you don’t have to worry about your toddler wriggling out of the sleeping bag.  The 20°F is lighter (13.1oz) but even the 40°F bag is still pretty lightweight (1lb 3oz). Both bags have tons of features like two-way zippers, machine washable, enclosed footbox, and a draft tube. The sleeping bags will definitely keep your toddler warm and comfy camping at night! #### Features: - **Temperature range:** 20°F to 60°F (20F bag), 40°F to 60°F (40F bag) - **Size:** 2-4 years - **Bag weight:** 13.1oz (20F bag), 1lb 3oz (40F bag) - **Fill:** 650 fill-power RDS-Certified White Duck Down (20F bag), Hi-Loft Polyester Synthetic (40F bag) - **Length:** 42in - **Machine washable** - **Two-way zippers** - **Colors:** Red, blue, and green - [**Buy the 20F Bag Here**](https://morrisonoutdoors.com/products/big-mo-20-down-kids-sleeping-bag?aff=3) and [**Buy the 40F Bag Here**](https://morrisonoutdoors.com/products/big-mo-40-kids-sleeping-bag?aff=3) – **Use discount code Momgoescamping at checkout to get 10% off!** **\*Note:** - The 20°F bag has *closed sleeves*. Your kid will not be able to get his/her hands out.  The Big Mo 40°F has sleeves which can be open or closed. - You can also get it on Amazon [here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08847CNTL/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08847CNTL&linkId=1678dee83789228e84bf5e18c8a1c36b), but it’s better to support the company directly 🙂 - Morrison also makes a larger version of this bag for 4-6 year olds called the [Mighty Mo](https://morrisonoutdoors.com/collections/mighty-mo-kids-sleeping-bags?aff=3). --- ### **2. [BabyDeeDee Travel Nest](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MHMM78Y/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07MHMM78Y&linkId=077db89251d196ff78df9ed8af3f4fe6)** ![babydeedee toddler sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/babydeedee-sleep-nest-travel-review.jpg "babydeedee sleep nest travel review - Mom Goes Camping") The brand BabyDeeDee has made baby sleep sacks for a long time.  Their Travel Sleep Nest which is meant for indoor and outdoor use.  Full disclosure: The brand sent me one of these to try out with my daughter. The sleeping bag is made from a warm, quilted material that is fairly easy to clean.  It is a TOG 3.5 rating, which means it will be suitable for around 60F.  If you want to use it for colder nights camping, you will need to bundle your toddler in layers. There are a lot of nice features to this sleeping bag, particularly the removable sleeves and snaps at the top.  All the features make it easy to do diaper changes and get your child in/out easily. I used the 18-36 month size Baby DeeDee bag when my girl was around 1 year old. She’s 2 years old now and the same bag still fits her. The only issue is that she can “escape” from this sleeping bag easily.  I had to sew the shoulder snaps closed to keep her inside! This is only an issue if your kid hates covers as much as mine does. 🙂 **Features:** - **TOG 3.5** (comfortable down to around 60F) - **Age:** Up to 36 months - **Colors:** Pink, blue, and gray - **Machine washable** - **Removable sleeves** - **Two-way zippers** - **Stroller compatible** - [**Buy It Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MHMM78Y/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07MHMM78Y&linkId=077db89251d196ff78df9ed8af3f4fe6) --- ### 3.  [REI Kindercone Kids’ Sleeping Bag](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dkindercone) ![Kindercone sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/kindercone.jpg "kindercone - Mom Goes Camping") The REI Kindercone sleeping bag is best suited for kids starting at 4 years old, but it can also work very well for toddlers around 2 years old.  The full length of the bag is 66 inches but there is a built-in drawstring for cinching up the bag.  This makes a big difference in trapping warmth!  I still wouldn’t use it camping with a toddler at 25F (unless your kid is bundled very well) but it will keep you toddler toasty in the 30s. As expected from REI, the toddler sleeping bag is of professional quality. It’s too heavy to use for backpacking but is great for car camping trips.  Also, bear in mind that this sleeping bag will probably be too warm for summer camping at low elevations. #### Features: - **Temperature rating:** 25F - **Bag weight:** 3lbs 4oz - **Fill:** Synthetic - **Length:** 66 inches - **Adjustable length** - **Two-way zipper** - **Machine washable** - [**Buy Here**](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dkindercone) (REI) --- ### 4.  [AceCamp 30F Mummy Sleeping Bag](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079Q46VDC/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B079Q46VDC&linkId=907e7ff423d00030ed2ddea85ab5bdd8) ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/acecamp-mummy-toddler-sleeping-bag.jpg "acecamp mummy toddler sleeping bag - Mom Goes Camping") To be clear, this sleeping bag won’t actually keep your toddler warm in 30F weather.  The temperature listed is for the *low rating* and not comfort. Plus, the sleeping bag is 5 feet long – which is way too long for a toddler — so a lot of heat will be lost.  The bag is better suited for older kids. That said, this sleeping bag can work well for toddlers. It has cool designs which glow in the dark (there’s a blue version too).  So, your toddler might actually be excited about getting in it. The mummy shape helps hold heat, so your toddler should be warm in temperatures around 45F.  Just make sure you have a good sleeping pad and warm jamies. I still like the Morrison sleeping bags better, but this is good if you only go camping in mild weather and want something which will still fit your toddler as she/he grows. **Features:** - **Rating:** 30 - **Weight:** 1lb 15oz - **Size:** 60 inches long, 24 inches wide - **Colors:** Purple or blue - **Drawstring hood** - **Machine washable** - **Two-way zippers** - [**Buy It Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079Q46VDC/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B079Q46VDC&linkId=907e7ff423d00030ed2ddea85ab5bdd8) --- ### 5. [Big Agnes Little Red Kids](https://amzn.to/2WdWNCU) [![Big Agnes toddler sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/big-agnes-little-red-e1611252133863.jpg "big agnes little red - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/big-agnes-little-red-e1611252133863.jpg) the best thing about this sleeping bag is that there is a “pad sleeve” – a sleeve where you put your sleeping pad so your child can’t roll off of it at night. It fits a 20×48 rectangular sleeping pad (compatible with the Big Agnes Short Length pad). Some other nice features include a hood which can be easily cinched up around your child’s face. There are also storage pockets inside the sleeping bag, which is important for keeping your child’s stuffed animals (or, as we call them, “Cuddly Friends”) from getting lost in the bag.   If your child has an accident, there are exterior loops so you can easily hang the bag to dry. The downsides? This sleeping bag is a bit long for a toddler.  Also, it currenlty isn’t in production anymore so you might have trouble finding it. #### **Specs:** - **Temperature rating:** 15F - **Max height:** 4.5 feet - **Bag weight:** 1lbs 12oz - **Fill:** 18oz M4 synthetic insulation - **Colors:** Red - **Interior pockets** - **Sleeping pad sleeve** - **Available at: [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/Big-Agnes-15-Degree-Sleeping-Wolverine/dp/B07588CC8F?th=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=858fdba2e3f10d6c8fe778b79c1bd2ff&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl), [Campsaver](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=358fd954-c6b8-44a1-9ca9-aaad445d2dfb&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.campsaver.com%2Fs%2Fbig-agnes-little-red)** --- ## How to Choose a Toddler Sleeping Bag for Camping If you look for a toddler sleeping bag online, chances are you’ll see something like the bag shown below. [![Unnivoll Baby Sleep Sack 6-12 Months 3 Pack 100% Cotton Lightweight 0.5 TOG Wearable Blanket Baby Sleep Bag with 2-Way Zipper for Newborn Infant Blue](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61gbll1vc7L._SL500_.jpg)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD7VJJLV?tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) These types of sleeping bags work well enough for sleepovers. They might be okay for camping in really warm temperatures too.  But they aren’t meant for tent camping in temperatures below 50F or so. **For camping, look for toddler sleeping bags which are:** - **Mummy shaped:** This traps heat better - **The right size:** If the sleeping bag is too big, there will be too much room and it won’t be able to trap heat well. - **Temperature rated:** Be warned that most bags list the *lower limit rating* and not the *comfort rating.* The comfort rating is usually 10-25F higher than the listed rating. - **Sleeves:** Most toddlers won’t keep their arms inside a normal sleeping bag.  Once their arms come out, so does the warmth.  Unless you know that your toddler will keep arms inside, choose one with sleeves (which means the Morrison or BabyDeeDee bag). ## Adapting a Youth Sleeping Bag for a Toddler I really don’t recommend using a kids sleeping bag for a 1-year old.  Get the Morrison or BabyDee sleeping bag for kids this young. However, you *might* be able to use a youth sleeping bag for a 2-year old or older toddler. **You will need to:** - **Tie the end of the sleeping bag to make it shorter** - ***Or* stuff the bottom of the sleeping bag with a blanket to fill the empty space** Unfortunately, there’s no way to shorten the *width* of the sleeping bag. That means your tiny toddler might be swimming around in the youth sleeping bag.  A lot of heat will be lost around the neck area. You probably won’t be able to cinch the hood (if there is one) because your toddler will literally get lost inside the bag. Yes, it can still work — but you might want to bring a blanket or two as a backup.  And it helps to test out the sleeping bag at home first instead of discovering how giant it is on your toddler once you are at camp. **Need more advice? Read:** - **[How to Go Camping with a Toddler](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-with-toddler/)** - [**Tips for Getting a Toddler to Sleep while Tent Camping**](https://momgoescamping.com/toddler-camping-sleep/) - **[Camping Essentials for Toddlers (Printable Checklist)](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-essentials-toddlers/)** - [**Best Toddler Camping Beds Reviewed**](https://momgoescamping.com/toddler-camping-beds/) **What sleeping bag do you use for your toddler? Let us know in the comments.** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** sleeping bags, toddlers --- ### [BOB Revolution Flex 3.0 All-Terrain Stroller Review](https://momgoescamping.com/bob-revolution-flex-3-0-review/) **Published:** February 25, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** The BOB Revolution was first released in 2007, making it one of the first off-road strollers ever made.  Since then, it has gone through numerous upgrades.  The Revolution Flex 3.0 is the latest model.  Here’s what you need to know about the stroller to decide if it’s right for you. ## Quick Verdict: The [BOB Revolution Flex 3.0](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0829PMJ8D?ref=t_ac_view_request_product_image&campaignId=amzn1.campaign.3NUO6NVAZPKTN&linkCode=tr1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=amzn1.campaign.3NUO6NVAZPKTN_1717065405219) is one of the best strollers for trail jogging and off-road hiking.  It’s got tons of features like an amazing suspension system, full canopy, adjustable handlebar, padded seating with ventilation, and safety features. The only strollers which really rival the Revolution Flex 3.0 are the [BOB Alterrain Pro](https://momgoescamping.com/bob-alterrain-pro-stroller-review/) and [Thule Urban Glide 2.0](https://momgoescamping.com/thule-urban-glide-2-0-review/).  The Alterrain Pro has an even better suspension and a hand brake. The Thule Urban Glide 2.0 has a sleeker design and also a hand brake. But the Revolution Flex 3.0 is more affordable than these two strollers.  You might also like that the Revolution Flex 3.0 folds with the fabric inwards instead of outwards. **You can get the stroller [at Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0829PMJ8D?ref=t_ac_view_request_product_image&campaignId=amzn1.campaign.3NUO6NVAZPKTN&linkCode=tr1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=amzn1.campaign.3NUO6NVAZPKTN_1717065405219) or [REI](https://www.rei.com/product/178726/bob-gear-revolution-flex-30-jogging-stroller?cm_mmc=aff_AL-_-343845-_-402593-_-NA&avad=402593_b3f683a31).** **Also read: [Best Off-Road Strollers Compared](https://momgoescamping.com/all-terrain-strollers-hiking/)** ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/bob-revolution-stroller-snow.jpg "bob revolution stroller snow - Mom Goes Camping")*Check out how the Revolution Flex handles TWINS in the snow* ## Specs and Features \[table id=58 /\] ## Pros and Cons **Pros** - Amazing suspension system - Full canopy with UV protection - Lots of storage - Seat adjusts from almost flat to fully upright - Handlebar adjusts to 9 positions **Cons** - Big and bulky - Two-handed folding - Expensive - No hand brake **See current prices [at Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0829PMJ8D?ref=t_ac_view_request_product_image&campaignId=amzn1.campaign.3NUO6NVAZPKTN&linkCode=tr1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=amzn1.campaign.3NUO6NVAZPKTN_1717065405219) and [REI](https://www.rei.com/product/178726/bob-gear-revolution-flex-30-jogging-stroller?cm_mmc=aff_AL-_-343845-_-402593-_-NA&avad=402593_b3f683a31)** ## Age Range You can buy an adapter bar which allows you to fit the BOB stroller with a car seat, thus making it possible to use this stroller with a newborn.  The seat also reclines nearly flat, so you could use it with an infant from 8 weeks old (babies 0-8 weeks should only use this stroller with a car seat attached). Because of how large the stroller is, it can even be used for older toddlers or young children.  The weight capacity is 75lbs, and there is plenty of headroom in the stroller.  There’s also a ride-along board option, so you’d be able to use it with two children too. Here’s what BOB says about the age range: - **From birth:** If using an infant car seat – walk only - **From 8 weeks:** In stroller – walk only - **From 8 months:** In stroller – jogging and off-road - **Weight limit:** Up to 75lbs – includes *child’s* weight and weight of any gear in stroller - **Child height capacity:** 44 inches – after this, your child’s head will hit the top of the canopy ### Car Seat Compatibility The BOB Revolution Flex 3.0 is compatible with these car seats. Note that the infant car seat adapter bar has to be purchased separately. - BOB Gear - Britax - Chicco - Graco - Peg Perego - Cosi - Nuna ![bob revolution flex 3.0 stroller with car seat](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/bob-revolution-flex-3.0-stroller-with-car-seat.jpg "bob revolution flex 3.0 stroller with car seat - Mom Goes Camping") ## Suspension System The suspension systems on BOB strollers are legendary.  The strollers practically push themselves and can even go over snow.  Because the suspension system absorbs shock, your child will be safe from bumps and jolts.  Less shock goes to the handlebars, so your *wrists* won’t suffer like they would if you tried to push a normal stroller over bumpy terrain. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/bob-revolution-stroller-suspension-system.jpg "bob revolution stroller suspension system - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/bob-revolution-stroller-suspension-system.jpg)The BOB Revolution Flex suspension system makes it easy to push even heavy loads  This is the older model ### Adjusting the Suspension Not only is the suspension on the Revolution Flex 3.0 incredibly smooth over bumpy terrain, it can even be adjusted. There are shock release knobs with two different positions based on your child’s weight.  Use position 1 for 0-40lbs and position 2 for 41-75lbs. There is also a double version of it available. ## Wheels and Tires In addition to the suspension system, another reason the BOB Revolution Flex 3.0 handles so well is the large wheels and air-filled tires.  You can easily switch the front wheel from locked to swivel position.  When putting the wheel back into locked position, it can be a bit tricky to ge it to sit perfectly straight. There is a “tracking adjustment” knob which helps you get the stroller to go straight.  It will take some fiddling to learn how to use it, but it’s nice that this feature exists at all. Another nice feature is that the wheels have quick-release.  The stroller is massive and you’ll probably need to remove the wheels to get it into your car, so this is really useful. ## Brakes The Revolution Flex 3.0 has a fairly large foot brake.  It’s easy to engage or disengage the brake with just the tip of your shoes. Annoyingly though, the Revolution Flex stroller doesn’t have a hand brake.  If you go down hilly terrain often, the hand brake is useful to help you slow down (strollers are heavy!).  Only the newer BOB Alterrain Pro has a hand brake.  But that stroller is significantly more expensive, so it’s your call whether a hand brake is worth paying for. ## Handlebar As a very short woman, I love that the BOB Revolution Flex handlebar can go in 9 different positions.  In addition to adjusting to your height, the handlebar height should change depending on the terrain. Keep the position lower when you want to go faster over smooth terrain.  Put the position up a bit higher when you are on tougher terrain and need to exert more force. ## Folding To fold the BOB Revolution 3.0 stroller, you have to squeeze two levers located underneath the handle.  This requires two hands.  This step folds the stroller in half, and then you pull up to collapse the stroller. A buckle secures the stroller in place. This isn’t exactly hard to do, but it is impossible to do if you ever need to fold the stroller while holding your child. The newer BOB Alterrain strollers have one-handed folding.  But they fold with the fabric facing outwards.  All other one-handed folding joggers (that I know of) also fold with the fabric outwards.  This is incredibly annoying – especially if the stroller is muddy and you have to put it in your car.  The fabric *will* get dirty!  It sucks that you have to decide between easier folding or keeping the fabric clean. ## Size Like all off-road strollers, the BOB Revolution Flex 3.0 is really large and bulky. The size is what allows it to handle bumpy terrain so well.  But there’s a good chance that the stroller won’t fit in your car trunk.  You will likely need to remove the wheels to get it inside. The size also means the Revolution Flex is not great for everyday use.  I’d recommend getting a smaller stroller for use around town and leaving this one for trail running and hiking. Also read: [Can I use a jogger as my everyday stroller?](https://momgoescamping.com/can-you-use-a-jogging-stroller-as-your-main-stroller/) ![bob revolution flex 3.0 stroller behind](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/bob-revolution-flex-3.0-stroller-behind.jpg "bob revolution flex 3.0 stroller behind - Mom Goes Camping") ## Fully Upright Seating Most all-terrain strollers don’t have a fully-upright position. This is because a reclined position is better at absorbing shock.  However, BOB realized that many of their customers were using the stroller everyday too, so they made it possible to adjust the seat into a fully-upright position. The upright position option is great if you want to feed your child in the stroller, or just want your older child to have a better view. The stroller also goes to near-flat recline, so kids can nap in it too. ### Full Canopy BOB really got the canopy on the Revolution stroller near perfect.  The UPF 50 canopy goes way down, so it will block sun from your sleeping child. ## Extra Features - **Lots of storage:** 6 pockets plus a large basket - **Full canopy:** With UV 50 protection - **Ventilation:** Air vents keep your baby cool - **Reflectors:** The stroller has lots of reflective trim. The Lunar model is especially reflective. It practically glows when light hits it. - **Magnetic peek-a-boo window** - **5 point harness** - **Wrist strap** - **Water-resistant fabric** ![BOB revolution flex 3.0 lunar](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/bob-lunar.jpg "bob lunar - Mom Goes Camping")The Lunar version is incredibly reflective ## Price The BOB Revolution Flex 3.0 definitely isn’t cheap. And, honestly, most people don’t really need this good of a suspension system on their stroller. But, if you go off-road hiking or on snow often, there really aren’t many other budget-friendly options.  The Jeep Chariot is one of the only ones which comes close but it isn’t nearly as good as the Revolution Flex 3.0. The good news is that BOB strollers have a high resale value, so you’ll be able to sell it once your kid outgrows it. Ready to buy? You can get the BOB Revolution Flex 3.0 [at Amazon](https://amzn.to/4axFaiX) or [REI](https://www.rei.com/product/178726/bob-gear-revolution-flex-30-jogging-stroller?cm_mmc=aff_AL-_-343845-_-402593-_-NA&avad=402593_b3f683a31). Or read: [Best All-Terrain Strollers Compared](https://momgoescamping.com/all-terrain-strollers-hiking/) [BOB Alterrain vs. BOB Revolution Flex 3.0](https://momgoescamping.com/bob-revolution-flex-3-0-vs-bob-alterrain-strollers/) --- Image credit: “[\_](https://www.flickr.com/photos/roebot/3916889678/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [Roebot](https://www.flickr.com/people/roebot/) “[Kate walks in the snow today with the tw](https://www.flickr.com/photos/dionhinchcliffe/24290281103/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [dionhinchcliffe](https://www.flickr.com/people/dionhinchcliffe/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking **Tags:** stroller --- ### [Do Kids Need Helmets in a Bike Trailer?](https://momgoescamping.com/do-kids-need-helmet-bike-trailer/) **Published:** December 15, 2024 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Let’s be clear: Kids (and adults!) should always wear a helmet when riding a bike. Kids also need to wear a helmet when on a child seat. If the bike tips over, the child will fall a long distance to the ground, and they won’t be able to catch themselves with their feet like you can! But what about helmets in a bike trailer? Many cyclists say that bike helmets aren’t necessary, whereas others are adamant that it’s absolutely necessary. Here are the arguments. **Also read:** [Best Bike Trailers for Kids with Suspension (for Off-Road Use)](https://momgoescamping.com/bike-trailers-kids-suspension-off-road/) ## Key Point #### It’s best to have your child wear a helmet, even if it’s not legally required. ## The Argument Against Helmets ### Trailers Are Safe: Bike trailers are very stable because of their low center of gravity. They are very hard to tip over. If the bike trailer does tip over (which can definitely happen!), the aluminum frame acts as a roll cage to protect the child inside.  The good brands of convertible bike trailers even have designs where the stroller handle folds overhead when in bike mode, thus acting as an additional roll bar. Because of this, some cyclist parents say that a helmet inside of a bike trailer is overkill. ### Helmet Gets Pushed Forward: Some high-end brands of bike trailers (like Burkey) have recessed areas for helmets.  Most cheap bike trailers don’t have this feature, though.  The back of the seat will push the helmet forward into an unsafe and uncomfortable position. Multi-sport helmets usually are flat backed, so less likely to push forward. There are also some bike helmets with flat backs specifically designed for bike trailers ([Bell](https://amzn.to/3VkZHBz), [Giro](https://amzn.to/45gfPsN) and [Nutcase](https://amzn.to/4ek48FC) make ones for very little kids). If you don’t want to buy another piece of gear for your kid, you can fold up a towel to put behind your child’s back. It will push them forward so the helmet sits better. [![bike trailer kid wearing helmet](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/bike-trailer-kid-wearing-helmet.jpg "bike trailer kid wearing helmet - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/bike-trailer-kid-wearing-helmet.jpg)Helmets with flat backs dont push forward as much when in a bike trailer ## The Argument for Helmets ### It’s Probably the Law Many states have laws that require children to wear helmets. The law usually applies to kids in bike trailers, too. ### Teach Kids that Bike = Helmet It’s good to get kids into the habit of using safety gear from a young age.  Putting a helmet on them teaches them that a bike ride means wearing a helmet. Period. ### Roll Cages and Bars Don’t Offer Complete Protection Even though they are safer than having your kid on a bike seat, bike trailers can flip over.  See the video above! In the video, the boy luckily wasn’t hurt, despite not having a helmet on. However, depending on how the trailer lands and how tall your child is, their head could easily end smashing against the ground. Consider this story: > Buddy of mine was riding with his son, hit a curb, the trailer roller over…even though it had “roll-bar” to protect his kid, due to the way he was laying across the curb, (upside down mind you) Jr’s head was on the curb……luckily Jr. had his helmet on, so it was no big deal……except for scarring daddy to death. ### Can Bash Head on Frame or Other Passenger Even if you have complete faith in the trailer to act as a roll cage, your kid can still smash their head against the trailer’s frame.  Or, if two kids are in the trailer, they can bang their heads together. ## The Verdict? Even if it’s not legally required, it’s best to have your child wear a helmet in the bike trailer—especially if you are cycling anywhere with traffic or will go at high speeds. Get a helmet with a flat back, or use something to position them forward so the seat back doesn’t push the helmet forward. However, if you are riding somewhere with literally no traffic, such as a nature trail, and going at a VERY slow speed, you can probably forgo the helmet. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/off-roading-with-bike-trailers-for-kids.jpg "off roading with bike trailers for kids - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/off-roading-with-bike-trailers-for-kids.jpg)Use your judgment If going slow and somewhere without traffic your kids are probably safe without helmets But what fun is going slow 😀 --- ###### Sources: <https://www.wyckoffnj.gov/sites/g/files/vyhlif12106/f/uploads/bicycle_helmet_law_of_new_jersey.pdf>, <https://www.bikeforums.net/recreational-family/425984-helmet-trailer.html> ###### Image credits: “[At The Beach 16 July ’11](https://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasrdororg/5942284817/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [thomasrdotorg](https://www.flickr.com/people/thomasrdororg/), “[Labor day ride – H in the trailer](https://www.flickr.com/photos/jackvinson/2864474564/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [JackVinson](https://www.flickr.com/people/jackvinson/), “[LRM\_20161117\_101009](https://www.flickr.com/photos/tompagenet/35350503876/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [tompagenet](https://www.flickr.com/people/tompagenet/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids --- ### [How Not to Get Shot When Hiking During Hunting Season](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-safety-hunting-season/) **Published:** November 20, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Picture this: you’re out hiking in a group with some friends when suddenly, a shower of bullets appears out of nowhere and narrowly misses your group. You’re terrified because it could have been fatal, and now you don’t want to go hiking ever again. If this simple scenario sounds like something that has happened to you or might happen in the future, you’re right to be alarmed. Avoiding getting shot when hiking during hunting season is important because your life is at stake! In this guide, we’re going to walk you through a list of tips on how not to get shot when hiking during hunting season. Spoiler alert: our tips include more than just wearing brightly colored clothing! ## Do Hikers Get Shot During Hunting Season? Yes.  While it isn’t common, hikers do sometimes get shot by hunters. If you look at [hunting accident stats](https://www.targettamers.com/guides/hunting-accident-statistics/), approximately 1000 people are shot by hunters with about 75 of these people dying from their injuries.  Most of these accidents could have been avoided by taking the precautions below. ## How Not to Get Shot as a Hiker During Hunting Season ### 1. Don’t hike in deer-heavy areas. Since deer is one of the most commonly hunted animals, it’s a good idea not to hunt in an area that has a high deer population. Don’t carry snacks that [attract deer](https://huntingmark.com/how-to-get-deer-to-come-to-you/). If you do, you run the risk of deer coming to you, and getting shot because a hunter might not be able to distinguish between you and the deer! ### 2. Wear brightly colored clothing.  While this tip is the most commonly found online, it is worth repeating! Many hikers forget to dress appropriately during hunting season, choosing colors that camouflage them from hunters and prey. Therefore, if you’re hiking during hunting season, wear bright neon colors like orange, pink, and yellow. These bright colors will help hunters far away distinguish between their prey and someone going for a hike in the woods. ### 3. Use a colorful backpack or rucksack.  In addition to wearing colorful clothing, it’s also a good idea to use a [colorful backpack](https://momgoescamping.com/best-budget-ultralight-backpacks/) or hiking rucksack. The reason for doing this is that it will help hunters distinguish between you and the animals in the area. If your backpack is a neutral color and it’s dark, there’s a chance that a hunter might think you’re a bear from a distance. Therefore, using colorful luggage prevents you from getting shot. ### 4. Don’t hike when it is dark.  Hunters typically hunt early in the morning, late in the afternoon, or early in the evening.  It can be hard to tell what anything is in the dark, so a hunter might mistake you for some type of game in the shadows and shoot you. Therefore, hike when the sun is high in the sky to avoid getting shot. ### 5. Make loud noises.  Since hunters can distinguish between how humans and animals sound, it’s a great idea to make loud noises to let them know that you’re nearby. You could sing or talk loudly, and this will let them know that there are humans close to them that they should not shoot. This is also good for [keeping bears away](https://momgoescamping.com/bear-repellent/) while you hike. ### 6. Hike in non-hunting areas.  Definitely don’t hike in areas typically reserved for hunting.  You’ll also need to avoid hiking in areas that are frequented by hunters.  Ask your local ranger or hunting association for which areas are most popular and should be avoided. ### 7. Know the season.  It’s also important to know how the hunting season works. This means that you need to know what animals hunt in which areas, and the largest group of hunters is most likely to be. Learn about what the hunting season looks like in a particular area and once you know what the season looks like, it will help you avoid getting shot during hunting season. ### 8. Know when and where hunting is allowed.  Hunting season does not last all year round. Learn about when the season starts and the areas where hunters typically hunt. Once you’ve figured this out, you can either avoid those areas completely or you could be more cautious when hiking in them. The [FWS searchable hunting map](https://www.fws.gov/hunting/map) has this info. ### 9. Don’t hike off the trails.  When you’re hiking, it’s important to stick to the trails for a couple of different reasons. One, it’s safer for you and prevents you from getting lost, even if you’re an experienced hiker. Aside from that, hunters often go in search of game by leaving the trail, so there’s a chance that you risk getting shot. ### 10. Keep your pets on a leash.  Regardless of what type of [pet you hike with](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-with-dog/), make sure that you never let them off the leash. Doing so could be dangerous for your pets because hunters might mistake your dog or cat for a different animal and could shoot them. Therefore, keep your pets safe by keeping them on a leash. ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking --- ### [Best Camp Chairs](https://momgoescamping.com/best-camp-chairs/) **Published:** April 20, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** If you don’t want to sit on the ground while camping, you are in luck: there are literally hundreds of different camp chairs to choose from.  The problem is that there are *too many* options when it comes to camp chairs.  Here, I’m going to break down the best camping chairs by type, including the best upright, lounge, rocking, low and double camp chairs. **Also Read: [Best Kids Camping Chairs](https://momgoescamping.com/best-kids-camping-chairs/)** ## Best Upright Camp Chairs This is probably what comes to mind when you think of camping chairs.  The classic design is a folding chair with four separate legs. They usually have arm rests with a cup holder in the arm. Upright camp chairs are the best option if you prefer to sit up.  They are also usually in one piece, so upright camp chairs are the fastest and easiest to set up.  There are tons of cheap options to choose from. ### Overall Best: REI Skyward Chair [![rei skyward camp chair](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/rei-skyward-camp-chair.jpg "rei skyward camp chair - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/rei-skyward-camp-chair.jpg) **Quick Review:** - **Weight:** 7lbs 3oz - **Open Size:** 20×31.25×31” - **Folded Size:** 7×33” - **Seat Height:** 10.5” - **Weight Limit:** 300lbs - **Pros:** This camp chair is incredibly durable and sturdy. The mesh material is very breathable, so your back doesn’t end up sweaty.  There is webbing in the chair to reinforce the fabric, but positioned in a way which is very comfortable.  It has a cup holder and an extra drawstring pocket. - **Cons:** The only real drawback is that the seat height of the chair is just 10.5 inches.  That’s great if your kids occasionally steal your seat, but not great if you are tall. **Available at** [**REI**](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F217994%2Frei-co-op-skyward-chair) --- ### Best Extra Large: Alps Mountaineering King Kong [![alps mountaineering king kong camp chair](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/alps-mountaineering-king-kong-chair.jpg "alps mountaineering king kong chair - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/alps-mountaineering-king-kong-chair.jpg) **Quick Review:** - **Weight:** 13lbs - **Open Size:** 38x38x20” - **Folded Size:** 7×14” - **Seat Height:** 18” - **Weight Limit:** 800lbs - **Pros:** The seat width on the King Kong chair is 24.5”, so it really lives up to its XL label. With an 800lb weight limit, you don’t have to worry about it failing on you. It’s also an incredibly comfortable chair because of the extra supports around the shoulder and butt area. The fabric version is most comfortable but holds water.  The mesh version is better for hot weather or if quick-drying matters to you. - **Cons:** As you’d expect from an XL camp chair, the King Kong is heavy at 13lbs.  **Available at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3UPoux5) and [Campsaver](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=358fd954-c6b8-44a1-9ca9-aaad445d2dfb&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.campsaver.com%2Fs%2Falps-mountaineering-king-kong)** --- ### Best for Back support:  Yeti Trailhead Camp Chair ![yeti trailhead camp chair](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/yeti-trailhead-camp-chair.jpg "yeti trailhead camp chair - Mom Goes Camping") **Quick Review:** - **Weight:** 13.3lbs - **Open Size:** 30x25x36″ - **Folded Size:** 10x8x43” - **Seat Height:** 16.75” - **Weight Limit:** 500lbs - **Pros:** Unlike other camp chairs, the fabric on the Yeti Trailhead doesn’t sag under your weight. This makes it great for back support and upright sitting. The crossover frame adds extra support, so it’s incredibly comfortable. The setup is quick and easy. You can expect good quality from Yeti products and there’s a 5 year warranty. This is a good option for large people since the seat is so wide and it has a high weight limit. - **Cons:** It’s expensive! It’s also heavy and fairly bulky when folded. **Available at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/40k1cR2) and [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F174101%2Fyeti-trailhead-camp-chair)** --- ### Budget Pick: Coleman Broadband Mesh Quad Camping Chair **[![coleman broadband mesh quad](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/coleman-broadband-mesh-quad.jpg "coleman broadband mesh quad - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/coleman-broadband-mesh-quad.jpg)** **Quick Review:** - **Weight:** 6.1lbs - **Open Size:** 21.3×31.1×35.8” - **Folded Size:** 5.5×5.9×35.4” - **Seat Height:** 18” - **Weight Limit:** 250lbs - **Pros:** For a cheap chair, the Coleman Broadband is fairly sturdy and durable. The seat height is also higher than others (the Amazon Basics is just 14”) and the mesh fabric back makes it great for hot weather. - **Cons:** This isn’t the most comfortable camping chair. And expect the fabric on the carrying case to tear and fray quickly. **Available at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/41DXUcc), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F218132%2Fcoleman-broadband-mesh-quad-chair) and [Campsaver](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=358fd954-c6b8-44a1-9ca9-aaad445d2dfb&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.campsaver.com%2Fs%2Fcoleman-broadband-mesh-quad-camping-chair)** --- ## Best Lounge Camp Chairs Lounge camp chairs are designed so the back reclines slightly back. This is great for reading, stargazing or simply relaxing.  They tend to be much lighter-weight than folding camp chairs and pack down smaller. The tradeoff is that this design doesn’t have armrests and there are usually many pieces to put together. Most are low-back, and the lack of head support can be very uncomfortable. ### Overall Best: ENO Lounger DL Chair [![ENO lounger camping chair](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/eno-lounger-chair.jpg "eno lounger chair - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/eno-lounger-chair.jpg) **Quick Review:** - **Weight:** 4lbs 10oz - **Open Size:** 32x23x37” - **Folded Size:** 7x7x24.5” - **Seat Height:** 3” and 10” - **Weight Limit:** 250lbs - **Pros:** The ENO lounger is lightweight yet doesn’t cost a fortune like other lightweight camp chairs. It’s wide triangle-shaped base also makes it sturdier than other lightweight chairs.  There are some nice features too, like the two seat height settings, cup holder and side pockets.  The tall back means it’s more comfortable than most lounge chairs. - **Cons:** The folded chair is hard to get back into its bag. The pillow on the back is also too set to high for short people, so might hit your head at an uncomfortable spot. **Available at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3UUyO6I), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F159192%2Feno-lounger-dl-chair) and [Campsaver ](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=358fd954-c6b8-44a1-9ca9-aaad445d2dfb&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.campsaver.com%2Feno-lounger-dl-chair.html)** --- ### Best Ultralight Pick: Helinox Zero Highback [![helinox zero high back ultralight camping chair](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/helinox-zero-high-back-camping-chair.jpg "helinox zero high back camping chair - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/helinox-zero-high-back-camping-chair.jpg) **Quick Review:** - **Weight:** 1.5bs - **Open Size:** 20.5×21.5×32.5” - **Folded Size:** 5x5x16” - **Seat Height:** 6.5” - **Weight Limit:** 265lbs - **Pros:** If you need an ultralight chair for backpacking, this one is great. It’s insanely lightweight yet the aluminum frame is still sturdy. The fabric is also sturdy and won’t tear easily like other UL gear.  The high back makes it more comfortable than the low-back Helinox chairs. - **Cons:** The Helinox Zero is narrow and very low to the ground. It’s also quite expensive. **Available at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3AddsIo), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DHelinox%2BZero%2BHighback%2B%26pagesize%3D90), and [Campsaver](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=358fd954-c6b8-44a1-9ca9-aaad445d2dfb&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.campsaver.com%2Fs%2Fhelinox-zero-highback)** --- ### Sturdiest: Mission Mountain S4 Chair [![Mission Mountain camping chair](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/mission-mountain-chair.jpg "mission mountain chair - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/mission-mountain-chair.jpg) **Quick Review:** - **Weight:**4.4lbs - **Open Size:** 21.6×23.6×29.5/31.5” - **Folded Size:** 14×17.5×2.7” - **Seat Height:** 5”/12.5”/14.5” - **Weight Limit:** 264lbs - **Pros:** There are two height settings for the chair. Adjusting the height is easy, especially because of the guidelines in the chair legs. It’s incredibly well-made and feels sturdier than other lounge-type camp chairs. The wide-set legs means you don’t have to worry about toppling over. The chair fabric has pull tabs which makes getting it on easier. - **Cons:** While it’s easy to put together, the frame has 5 pieces which need to be assembled. There’s no high-back option so no place to rest your head.  It wish the adjustable seat height had more than a 2 inch difference between settings. **Available at [Mission Mountain](https://www.missionmountain.us/)** --- ## Best Adjustable Back and Reclining Camp Chairs: Can’t decide between an upright or lounge-style camp chair?  Then get an adjustable position camp chair.  The downside is that there aren’t too many options, they tend to be pricy, and most don’t have features like cup holders. ### Overall Best: Eureka Highback Recliner [![eureka highback reclining camping chair](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/eureka-highback-reclining.jpg "eureka highback reclining - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/eureka-highback-reclining.jpg) **Quick Review:** - **Weight:** 12lbs 4oz - **Open Size:** 34x24x46.5” - **Folded Size:** 39.5×7.5×6.5” - **Seat Height:** 18” - **Weight Limit:** 300lbs - **Pros:** The back of this camping chair can be reclined back. There are three positions in total, with one of the positions being completely upright.  The seat is high off the ground and large so it’s suitable for bigger people. The construction is also very sturdy and it’s quick and easy to fold. There’s mesh on the back for ventilation. - **Cons:** The biggest issue is that the Eureka recliner is heavy. It’s also fairly bulky when folded. **Available at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/41BPx1a) and [Campsaver](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=358fd954-c6b8-44a1-9ca9-aaad445d2dfb&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.campsaver.com%2Fs%2Feureka-highback-recliner)** --- ### Best Lightweight Option: Nemo Moonlight [![nemo moonlight reclining camp chair](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/nemo-moonlight-reclining-chair.jpg "nemo moonlight reclining chair - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/nemo-moonlight-reclining-chair.jpg) - **Weight:** 1lb 14oz - **Open Size:** 26x20x20” - **Folded Size:** 4×14” - **Seat Height:** 10.5” - **Weight Limit:** 300lbs - **Pros:** not insanely expensive, UL, lifetime warranty, easy to put together – cord throughout the frame. Very comfortable.  No fabric at sides, so comfortable even for \*most\* bigger people. Fabric won’t cut into skin. - **Cons:** very low to the ground, adjusting takes some practice. If you have a big butt the straps might hit  you and be uncomfortable **Available at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3Abx3ZD) and [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F186577%2Fnemo-moonlite-reclining-camp-chair)** --- ### Budget Pick: Redcamp Reclining Camp Chair ![REDCAMP Camping Chair with Removable Footrest, Portable Folding Reclining Camp Chairs for Adults, Blue with Fabric Back](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41z6N5DsKcL._SL500_.jpg)![](https://ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&language=en_US&l=li3&o=1&a=B08ZCJYHK4) **Quick Review:** - **Weight:** 9.5lbs - **Open Size:** 33×41.5×23” (upright w/o footrest) - **Folded Size:** 9.5×35” - **Seat Height:** 15.5” - **Weight Limit:** 220lbs - **Pros:** It’s very cheap, reclines in two positions and has a foot rest. - **Cons:** As expected from a cheap camping chair – especially one with such a low weight limit — the Redcamp isn’t very durable. Usable seat width is only 21”, so not for big people. The seat back is approximately 25”, so it’s best for short people. Tall people might not be able to rest their heads on the back. Also note that the upright position isn’t completely upright. Nor is there a completely flat position. **Available at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3Ad83AW)** --- ## Best Camp Rocking Chairs and Swinging Chairs These are true glamping chairs which other a lot of comfort.  There are a few ways that these chairs can work.  One is with a spring mechanism that allows the seat to move while the frame stays still.  These tend to be the most comfortable because they have armrests and allow for upright sitting. The second type of camp chair which rocks is a “hammock” chair. These have a solid frame with a bucket/hammock-style seat attached to it.  If you like to lounge back, these are a great option. They aren’t good for back support or anything that requires upright seating, such as sitting in front of a campfire. I do *not* recommend camping rocking chairs which have curved feet.  These perform terribly on bumpy camp ground!  Also avoid any camping rockers which have to be tied to trees.  It’s hard to find a sturdy branch in the exact right place. ### Overall Best: Nemo Stargaze Hammock-Style Recliner [![nemo stargazer hammock chair](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/nemo-stargazer-hammock-chair.jpg "nemo stargazer hammock chair - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/nemo-stargazer-hammock-chair.jpg) **Quick Review:** - **Weight:** 7lbs 15oz - **Open Size:** 41x37x27” - **Folded Size:** ***5×6.5×6.5”*** - **Seat Height:** 12” - **Weight Limit:** 300lbs - **Pros:** This camping chair is incredibly comfortable, especially since it has armrests and the back is tall enough to rest your head against in all positions. It’s also very well-designed with straps so you can adjust the positioning. Setup is stupidly easy and quick. - **Cons:** It’s expensive! **Available at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3LedmGG) and [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F216203%2Fnemo-stargaze-reclining-camp-chair)** --- ### Budget Rocker: GCI Kickback Rocker Chair [![GCI Kickback rocker](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/gci-rocker.jpg "gci rocker - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/gci-rocker.jpg) **Quick Review:** - **Weight:** 10lbs 10oz - **Open Size:** 32.5×31.7×27.2” - **Folded Size:** 39×7.9×5.9” - **Seat Height:** 17.1″ - **Weight Limit:** 250lbs - **Pros:** This is an incredibly comfortable rocking chair. The seat height is perfect for allowing you to stretch out your feet while rocking. GCI makes a few other rockers, but the seat position on this one is the most comfortable.  Compared to similar rockers, it folds down very small and isn’t too heavy.  It’s also very affordable. - **Cons:** It doesn’t come with a carrying bag. It’s also not the most durable chair (not surprising considering the cheap price).  Don’t exceed the weight limit! **Available at [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/GCI-KickBack-Rocker-Chair-Heathered/dp/B084C17PSN/) and [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F170999%2Fgci-outdoor-kickback-rocker-chair)** --- ### Budget Hammock Chair: KingCamp Swinging Chair ![KingCamp Hammock Camping Chair, Aluminum Alloy Adjustable Back Swinging Folding Rocking Chair with Headrest & Cup Holder for Outdoor, Travel, Sport, Games, Lawn, Concerts, Backyard (Black)](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41lJB9UoULL._SL500_.jpg)![](https://ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&language=en_US&l=li3&o=1&a=B09NR3C9BV) **Quick Review:** - **Weight:** 10.3lbs - **Open Size:** 38×27.1×47.2” - **Folded Size:** 9x9x35.4” - **Seat Height:** 22” - **Weight Limit:** 300lbs - **Pros:** It’s an affordable and comfortable hammock rocking chair. It’s very roomy and can fit larger people easily. - **Cons:** The cup holder is in a stupid position. Anything you put inside the holder might annoy you while sitting in the chair. It’s also not very durable (again, not surprising for a cheap camp chair).  The high seat height means it isn’t good for short people. **Available at [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/KingCamp-Swinging-Lightweight-Aluminum-Headrest/dp/B09NR3C9BV)** --- ## Best Low and Legless Camping Chairs: These camping chairs either sit low to the ground or directly on the ground.  Because they don’t have legs, they are lightweight and compact.  They are also good for children (no worrying that your kids will topple off a too-high chair into the campfire!).  But it obviously can be difficult to get in/out of such a low chair. ### Best Lightweight Pick: Hex Original [![Hex Original legless camping chair](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/hex-original-camping-chair.jpg "hex original camping chair - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/hex-original-camping-chair.jpg) **Quick Review:** - **Weight:** 1.3lbs - **Open Size:** 33×15” - **Folded Size:** 4×33” - **Seat Height:** 0” - **Weight Limit:** 250lbs - **Pros:** This is a cool lightweight, compact solution which allows you to sit anywhere. It’s surprisingly comfortable, especially since you can tilt the chair back. The straps allow you to adjust the position. They make a few other versions of this legless chair, such as one with a higher back. - **Cons:** It’s fairly pricy for what’s essentially a few pieces of fabric and straps. Also be warned that it’s narrow! **Available at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3UW0VTo) and [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dhex%2Bcamping%2Bchair%26pagesize%3D90)** --- ### Budget Pick: Cascade Mountain Tech Low Profile Chair [![Cascade Mountain Low Profile camp chair](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Cascade-Mountain-Tech-Low-Profile-Oudoor-Chair-Black-Recolor_1800x1800-png-1200×1200-.jpg "Cascade Mountain Low Profile camp chair - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Cascade-Mountain-Tech-Low-Profile-Oudoor-Chair-Black-Recolor_1800x1800-png-1200×1200-.jpg) **Quick Review:** - **Weight:** 7lbs - **Open Size:** 20x20x21” - **Folded Size:** 26×8” - **Seat Height:** 9” - **Weight Limit:** 250lbs - **Pros:** Just pop the chair open – no need to attach any poles or do setup. Despite being so cheap, the chair seems durable and sturdy.  The fabric is mesh, so it’s great in hot weather and doesn’t hold water.  And it is AFFORDABLE. - **Cons:** I wish it had arm rests, a pocket and cup holder. It’s also fairly heavy for a low chair. **Available at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/4226z8T)** --- ## Best Double Camp Chairs Also called camping loveseats, these camping chairs are designed for two people.  They are great for cuddling in front of the fire. Since they share some of the same poles, they fold smaller than two separate camp chairs.  However, you sacrifice an armrest. ### Overall Best: Mountain Summit Gear Loveseat [![Mountain Summit Gear camp loveseat](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Mountain-Summit-Gear-Loveseat.jpg "Mountain Summit Gear Loveseat - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Mountain-Summit-Gear-Loveseat.jpg) **Quick Review:** - **Weight:** 15lbs - **Open Size:**5x37x25” - **Folded Size:** 37x9x6” - **Seat Height:** 17.7” - **Weight Limit:** 500lbs (300lbs per seat) - **Pros:** Surprisingly affordable.  It’s sturdy enough and packs down nicely. - **Cons:** It’s a bit heavy and I wish there was a mesh fabric option. **Available at [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F170880%2Fmountain-summit-gear-loveseat) and [Campsaver](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=358fd954-c6b8-44a1-9ca9-aaad445d2dfb&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.campsaver.com%2Fmountain-summit-gear-loveseat.html)** --- ### Budget Pick: Coleman Quattro Lax Double Quad Chair [![Coleman camping loveseat](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/coleman-double.jpg "coleman double - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/coleman-double.jpg) **Quick Review:** - **Weight:** 11.6lbs - **Open Size:** 52x41x29.5” - **Folded Size:** 32.8×8.8×7.0 - **Seat Height:** 14.5” - **Weight Limit:** 225lbs per seat - **Pros:** It’s compact, lightweight and quick to set up. There are pockets in back plus cup holders on each armrest. It folds down fairly small. - **Cons:** This is not designed for large adults. It’s best for children or one child plus a medium-sized adult. **Available at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/41Kc8IJ)** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [Best Portable Power Stations for Camping (With Comparison Table)](https://momgoescamping.com/best-power-stations-camping/) **Published:** June 23, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Unless you want to pay the electric hookup fee at a campground, a portable power station is the best way to stay powered while camping.   Luckily, power stations have gotten a lot cheaper over the past few years and there are many more options.  I’ve been lucky enough to test out several during camping trips with my family.  Here are my picks for best camping power stations, as well as info as my 7-step guide to choosing a power station for camping (including how to calculate your power needs). ## Quick Picks: - **Best Overall: [Deeno X1500](https://amzn.to/3XoX2ri)** – It’s the most affordable power station in its class while still having LiFePO4 battery, great features and a very long lifespan. - **Runner Up: [EcoFlow River 2 Series](https://amzn.to/3XljOjw)** – This series is my 2nd pick because the brand has a very good reputatoin. Their power stations charge very quickly and have long lifespans. - **Best Budget Power Station (Also Best Lightweight Power Station): [Westinghouse 194](https://amzn.to/3PrBOa1) –** This power station is cheap and lightweight because it uses older Li-ion battery technology.  It’s great if you only have small power needs when camping. - **Best High-Capacity Power Station: [EcoFlow Delta Max](https://amzn.to/3WVLaP9) –** Compared to other 2,048Wh power stations, the fans are also much quieter.  It also has a higher wattage and surge power. ## Camping Power Station Comparison Table \[table id=84 /\] ## Best Power Stations for Camping ### 1. Deeno X1500 **Choose because:** Very affordable (especially for the amount of capacity you get), runs quietly, and has a very long lifespan ![deeno power station x1500 review](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/deeno-power-station-x1500-review.jpg "deeno power station x1500 review - Mom Goes Camping") #### Quick Review: The Deeno X1500 (1036Wh/1500W/3000W surge) is a fairly new power station on the market.  Full disclosure that the brand sent me one for free to try out.  Considering how cheap it is compared to other 1,000Wh capacity power stations, I was expecting something to be wrong with it.  So, I was surprised at how well it works. Deeno covered all the bases with the X1500 in terms of usability, LCD screen, charging methods and outputs.  The reason I love this power station for camping though is because it is QUIET.  The fans don’t constantly run and, even when they do kick on, aren’t loud like with other camping power stations. You can use the Deeno X1500 in a tent without it annoying you.  It retains 80% capacity for 3,500 cycles — which is more than most other LiFePO4 power stations. Right now Deeno only has the X1500 power station.  But they are coming out with two other power stations this year. Read my full [**review of the Deeno X1500**](https://momgoescamping.com/deeno-x1500-power-station-review/) power station for camping here. #### Pros: - Runs quietly - Very long lifespan - Great value - High surge power #### Cons: - Brand reputation not established - No app yet [**Get the Deeno X1500 Here**](https://amzn.to/3XoX2ri) --- ### 2. Ecoflow Power Stations **Choose because:** Brand has a proven reputation, lots of capacity options, a long lifespan and the high-capacity models are expandable ![ecoflow power stations for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/ecoflow-power-stations-for-camping.jpg "ecoflow power stations for camping - Mom Goes Camping") #### Quick Review: EcoFlow is one of the best known brands when it comes to camping power stations.  Their newer models of power stations use LiFePO4 battery technology and have cool features like Bluetooth connectivity and an app.  When you compare the price per Wh, EcoFlow tends to win for cost. Other than their reputation, the main reason to choose EcoFlow power stations is because they recharge quickly. They also support larger solar panels than similar-capacity power stations.  The main downside of the EcoFlow power stations is that the fans get very loud, which can be annoying when camping. There are tons of EcoFlow power stations to choose from.  IMO, the ones below are best ones for camping because they use the newer LiFePO4 battery technology.  The older EcoFlow power stations use Li-ion batteries! #### EcoFlow Power Station Comparison Table \[table id=85 /\] #### Pros: - Charges very quickly - High surge power - Nice mobile app - Supports larger solar panels - Large-capacity models are expandable - Brand has a very good reputation #### Cons: - Loud fans - Uncomfortable handle - No wireless charging **Get EcoFlow Power Stations [Here at Amazon](https://amzn.to/3Jt59NG) or at [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Decoflow)** --- ### 3. Westinghouse iGen Series Power Stations **Choose because:** They are lightweight and budget-friendly power stations for low-power needs ![westinghouse power station for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/westinghouse-power-station-for-camping.jpg "westinghouse power station for camping - Mom Goes Camping") #### Quick Review: If you want a cheap power station for camping, then Westinghouse is a good choice.  They have several lower-capacity power stations which still have AC outlets. Because Westinghouse power stations use Li-ion batteries, they are lightweight and affordable.   I wouldn’t recommend getting one of their higher-capacity models though: if you need lots of capacity, then you are better off paying for a brand of power station which uses LiFePO4 battery technology. #### Specs: \[table id=87 /\] #### Pros: - Very affordable - Lightweight - Quiet operation #### Cons: - Li-ion batteries - Retains 80% capacity only to 500 cycles [**Buy Here**](https://amzn.to/3PrBOa1) --- ### 4. Bluetti Power Stations **Best because:** They have wireless charging and their AC200Max model has a lifespan of 3,500 cycles **![using a power station to charge camping gear](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/power-station-for-camping.jpg "power station for camping - Mom Goes Camping")** #### Quick Review: Bluetti is another one of the most well-known brands for camping power stations.  Their products are known to last a long time and use the latest technology when it comes to things like inverters. Most Bluetti power stations are very well-designed and user-friendly. Note that I say *most.*  I have the Bluetti EB70 (the brand sent it to me to try) and hate the LCD screen: it only shows charging in increments of 20%, which is ridiculous.   The other models of Bluetti power stations have better LCD screens which show precise info, hence why the EB70 isn’t recommended here. When it comes to cost, EcoFlow products are usually more affordable per watt-hour.  Unless you can find Bluetti on sale, EcoFlow is probably the better choice.  The exception is with the Bluetti AC200Max power station.  Even though it’s probably going to be pricier than the EcoFlow power station of similar capacity, the Bluetti one has a lifespan of 3,500 cycles.  If you use it frequently, then it’s a better long-term investment. #### Bluetti Power Station Comparison Table \[table id=86 /\] #### Pros - Brand has a good reputation - Uses great technology - Long lifespan - Nice mobile app - Large-capacity models are expandable #### Cons - Lots of complaints about bad customer service - One of the pricier options - Loud fans **Buy [Here at Amazon](https://amzn.to/3CHRYV9)** --- ### 5. Anker Power Stations **Choose because:**  Fans are quieter than most other power stations and their large power station is on wheels ![anker powerhouse power station for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/anker-powerhouse-power-station-for-camping.jpg "anker powerhouse power station for camping - Mom Goes Camping") #### Quick Review: I really love Anker power banks. They are lightweight and very reliable. Their power stations are also great – but not as good as Bluetti or EcoFlow IMO.  Right now, Anker power stations are simply too expensive compared to similar models from these brands.  They also don’t has as many outputs and are heavier. The only reason I can see someone choosing Anker over EcoFlow is if you require lots of capacity and need it to be portable.  The Anker AC200Max comes on wheels, so is very convenient to move around camp.  However, for the price difference, you could just buy yourself a dolly to put the EcoFlow power station on. #### Anker Power Station Comparison Table  **\[table id=88 /\]** #### Pros: - Brand has a very good reputation - Quieter than most other power stations - Large-capacity model is on wheels and expandable #### Cons: - Expensive - Handle sticks out on some models **Get [Here at Amazon](https://amzn.to/3qQWgH8) and Here at** [**Anker.com**](https://shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=2060371&u=2366353&m=126562&urllink=&afftrack=) --- ## How to Choose a Power Station for Camping (In 7 Steps) ### 1. First Decide Whether You Really Need a Power Station For me, a power station was a good investment because it allows me to work while camping (I can set up my laptop with a portable internet hotspot and work in the wilderness!). If you don’t have high power demands though, you might be better off with a [lightweight power bank](https://momgoescamping.com/best-backpacking-power-banks/).  If your power demands are very high though, a power station might not be adequate and you’d be better off paying the electrical hookup fee at a campground. **For more, read: [Is a Power Station Really Worth It for Camping?](https://momgoescamping.com/power-stations-worth-it-camping/)** ### 2. What Size (Capacity) Power Station Do You Need for Camping? Portable power stations come in various capacities, but the range is usually 150Wh to 2000Wh.  Anything over 2000Wh is probably too large and heavy to be considered portable. And, IMO, power stations under 200Wh are a waste of money.  If your power needs are that low, you are probably better off bringing a few power banks. **For more campers, a power station with a capacity of approximately 700Wh is going to be the best choice.  This is enough power to keep small gadgets charged and run some appliances like a 12V cooler for a weekend trip.** | Remember: - Power station capacity is measured in watt hours (Wh) - A power station with 700 Wh can run a 1-watt device for 700 hours, a 10-watt device for 70 hours and a 100-watt device for 7 hours. | |---| #### General Guidelines - **200Wh power station:** Good for weekend trips where you only need to recharge phones and cameras, run small LED lights and maybe play music from Bluetooth speakers for a few hours - **500Wh power station:** Good for longer camping trips where you only need to charge small devices. OR for weekend trips where you need to use fans or laptops. - **1000Wh power station:** This is enough capacity to recharge a laptop approximately 10 times. It will also keep a 12V cooler running for a weekend trip. #### How to Calculate Power Needs for Camping To figure out what size power station you need for camping, you’ll need to follow these steps: **1. Figure out how much power each device requires to run or recharge.** First, find out how many watts your devices need to run. This number is often listed somewhere on the device. But if you only see a measurement for amps, you can multiply that number by the item’s voltage to convert into watts **2. Calculate how many hours you will use the device per day.** Or how many times per day you will need to recharge it per day. Multiply this number by the amount of power it uses. If you need to recharge a phone once every two days (1/2 per day), then your total would be (Wh x 0.5). **3. Tally up the amounts for each device.** **4. Divide the number from step 3 by 0.81.** This is to account for energy inefficiency. **5. Multiple the number in #4 by how many days your camping trip will last.** **6. Factor in how often you will be able to recharge your power station during your trip.** Divide the number from step 5 by this. **For example,** you calculate that you will need 1000Wh of power for a 6-day camping trip.  But you will recharge the power station in your car on the third day.  That means you only need a power station which is 500Wh. #### How Long Can an Appliance Run on an Power Station? To figure out how long a device will run on a power station, use this formula: **Capacity in Wh × 90% × 90% ÷ Wattage of appliance ≈ Run time** ### 3. Do You Need to Power High-Wattage Appliances? In addition to watt hours, power stations are also sized by *watt output.* This basically means how much energy the power station can deliver at the same time. For example, if a power station has 1000 watt output, it could power (up to) 10 devices of 100 watts each.  Or 5 devices of 200 watts each. **Common wattages of camping devices/appliances:** - LED light: 5 watts - LED floodlight: 10 watts - CPAP machine: 15-60 watts - Small movie projector: 50-100 watts - 12V cooler: 60 watts - String lights: 90-125 watts - 12V pump for air mattress: 105 watts - Laptop: 120 watts - Small car vacuum: 120 watts - 12V fridge: 180-600 watts - Kettle: 300 watts - Coffee maker: 600 watts **Note:** It’s unrealistic to run appliances like electric grills (1,700 watts), space heaters (1,500+ watts) and AC units (1,500+ watts) with a camping power station.  They simply use too much energy.  Even if the power station can handle the wattage requirements, the battery will drain very quickly. ### 4. Also Factor in Surge Power (aka Peak Power) Some devices – especially those with motors – require a higher amount of energy just to get them started.  For example, a 200-watt RV fridge might require 1000 watts just to get it going. Because of this, many power stations have higher “surge power” or “peak power.”  This is the amount of energy the power station can handle for a short period of time. For example, the Deeno X1500 is capable of running 1500 watts continuously.  But it can also deliver 3000 watts of surge power.  By contrast, a power station with a low surge power won’t be able to deliver enough juice to get the fridge going. If you want to use the power station with motorized appliances, then you’ll need a higher surge power. ### 5. Li-Ion or LiFePO4 Battery Technology? Power stations for camping are made with either lithium ion (Li-ion) or (LiFePO4) battery technology.  Li-ion batteries are cheaper and are lighter weight.  However, LiFePO4 power stations last for many more cycles, so they are more affordable in the long run.   **Unless you are on a very tight budget, I only recommend choosing LiFePO4 power stations for camping.** \*You’ll note that no Jackery power stations made my list because all models currently use the older Li-ion battery technology yet are still pricy. #### **Benefits of LiFePO4 Power Stations:** - **Safety:** LiFePO4 batteries are very stable so you don’t have to worry about them spontaneously bursting into flames like Li-ion batteries sometimes do. - **Withstand temperature extremes better:** LiFePO4 batteries function well in temps of -4F to 140F whereas Li-ion batteries only function well from 32F to 113F. Bear in mind that power stations can get really hot (especially if you have to keep them in your car), so LiFePO4 power stations are much better for camping. - **Lower self-discharge rate:** Lithium batteries will drain even if not used. However, LiFePO4 power stations have a very low self-discharge so will remain charged even when kept in storage for a long time. - **Longer lifespan:** All lithium batteries lose some of their capacity over time. With Li-ion power stations, expect to lose 20% capacity after just 500 cycles.  With LiFePO4 power stations, you can go through 2,500+ cycles before losing 20% capacity. #### **Benefits of Li-Ion Power Stations:** - **Lighter:** They are significantly lighter for the same amount of capacity, which is useful if you need to carry the power station around camp. - **Cheaper:** The immediate cost of Li-ion power stations is cheaper. Though note that they don’t last as long, so end up being more expensive in the long run. ### 6. Comparing Price of Camping Power Stations As a general rule, you should buy the highest-capacity power station that you can afford.  The more capacity you have, the more use you will get out of the power station.  And the more likely you will be able to use it for things other than camping, such as during power outages. But camping power stations are still really expensive.  Instead of just looking at the overall price, I suggest you **calculate the** **price per watt hour.** This will give you a better price comparison. **For example:** - 250Wh power station that costs $240 = $0.96 per watt hour - 270Wh power that costs $300 = $1.11 per watt hour - 770Wh power station that costs $600 = $0.78 per watt hour - 1030Wh power station that costs $700 = $0.68 per watt hour - 1300Wh power station that costs $1,100 = $0.85 per watt hour In these examples, the 1030Wh power station is actually the best deal (assuming similar battery technology and features). ### 7. Decide Which Features Are Worth Paying For Finally, decide whether there are any features you really want and how much extra you are willing to pay for them. **For example, you might want your camping power station to have these features:** - Longer lifespan - Good LCD screen which gives precise information. - Comfortable handle so I can carry it around camp easier. - Simultaneous charge and discharge - Multiple inputs and outputs - USB Power delivery output - Wireless charging - Quiet fan ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** power --- ### [How to Lace Hiking Boots: 15 Different Methods for Solving Foot Issues](https://momgoescamping.com/lace-hiking-boots/) **Published:** September 12, 2023 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Most people lace their hiking boots with the “criss cross” method.  It’s quick, easy to tighten, and works well enough for all foot types.  But there are actually a lot of different ways to lace hiking boots – and some of them have a lot of benefits for solving foot issues like heel blisters, pinched toes and arch pain. --- Here I’ll go over the 15 main ways to lace hiking boots (yes, there are more ways than this but these 15 cover pretty much all foot issues you may face) and their benefits.  I’ve also made you some nice images so you can see how do lace them. 🙂 Also read: - [How to keep feet dry when hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/keep-feet-dry-hiking/) - [Best cheap hiking socks](https://momgoescamping.com/cheap-hiking-socks/) ## Boot Lacing Infographic [![how to lace hiking boots infographic](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/lace-boots-inforgraphic.jpg "lace boots inforgraphic - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/lace-boots-inforgraphic.jpg) --- ## Want this information in PRINTABLE format? **Then you need my Camping Cheat Sheets.** The manual has 42 pages crammed with illustrated guides about everything from campfire cooking to wilderness first aid. [![camping cheat sheets](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/interior-pages.jpg "interior pages - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets/guylines) **Because you found it through my website, I’ll even give you 50% off  😀** [**Get Your Copy for 50% Off Here**](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets/guylines) --- ## 1. Hiking Lacing [![method for lacing hiking boots](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/hiking-lacing-229x300.jpg "hiking lacing - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/hiking-lacing.jpg) **Benefit: Prevents tripping** A few years ago, the laces from one of my hiking boots got caught on the hooks on the other boot. This basically tied my feet together and I went crashing down to the ground – shattering my knees in the process (NOT fun!). This method of lacing hiking boots prevents that hazard: the laces are tied off to the exterior side so they won’t get caught on the other boot. --- ## 2. Lydiard Lacing [![lydiard lacing for hiking boots](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/lydiard-lacing-300x191.jpg "lydiard lacing - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/lydiard-lacing.jpg) **Benefits:** - Distributes pressure evenly across foot - Reduces sagging in boots - Allows boots to crease naturally (good for breaking in new boots) - Prevents tripping Usually Lydiard lacing can only be done with boots that have an even number of eyelets (Left image).  But the image to the right shows a hack so you can do this lacing with odd-number eyelet boots. --- ## 3. Heel Slipping Lacing [![lace boots to prevent heel slipping and blisters](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/heel-slipping-243x300.jpg "heel slipping - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/heel-slipping.jpg) **Benefit: Prevents heel blisters** This is a really simple moderation to criss-cross lacing.  It adds a bit of extra strength around the heel area so your heel is less likely to slip in the boot and get blisters. --- ## 4. Surgeon’s Knot Lacing [![surgeons knot heel slipping boot lacing](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/surgeons-knot-heel-slipping-271x300.jpg "surgeons knot heel slipping - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/surgeons-knot-heel-slipping.jpg) **Benefits:** - **Prevents heel blisters** - **Prevents laces from loosening** Here’s another book lacing method to prevent heel blisters.  The difference is that you use a surgeon’s knot at the top of the midfoot and lower boot hooks.  It’s also a good method if your laces often loosen towards the bottom. --- ## 5. Skip Bottom Eyelets Lacing [![relieve toe pressure hiking boot lacing](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/toe-pressure-257x300.jpg "toe pressure - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/toe-pressure.jpg) **Benefit: Relieve toe pain and pressure** Did your toes swell up? Or your boots feel too tight in the toes? The solution is simple: just skip the bottom eyelets when lacing your boots. You can combine this lacing method with other methods too. --- ## 6. Diagonal Lace [![hiking boot lacing for toe pain andn black toenails](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/toe-pain-black-toenails-265x300.jpg "toe pain black toenails - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/toe-pain-black-toenails.jpg) **Benefit: Big toe pain and black toenails** If you feel pain in your big toe or even have black toenails, then use this lacing method. The diagonal lace (blue) starts on the big toe side.  This lifts the big toe area, thus relieving some of the pressure on it. --- ## 7. Wide Feet Lacing [![hiking boot lacing for wide feet](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/wide-feeet-281x300.jpg "wide feeet - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/wide-feeet.jpg) **Benefits:** - **Widens boots** - **Short laces** This can also be useful if you are hiking in winter and wearing thicker socks than normal. Skipping alternating eyelets when lacing opens up the boot throughout. --- ## 8. Narrow Feet Lacing [![hiking boot lacing for narrow feet](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/narrow-feet-253x300.jpg "narrow feet - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/narrow-feet.jpg) **Benefits:** - **Tightens boots around midfoot** - **Short laces** This lacing method only skips eyelets in the midfoot area, so the crossed laces above pull them tighter together and give a snugger fit. --- ## 9. Dual Lacing [![dual lacing method for hiking boots](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/dual-lacing-249x300.jpg "dual lacing - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/dual-lacing.jpg) **Benefit: Adjust top and bottom tightness separately** Warning: If you use this method, make sure the lower laces are short or you tuck the ends underneath.  Otherwise it can be a tripping hazard! --- ## 10. Ladder Lacing [![ladder lacing for hiking boots](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/ladder-lacing-179x300.jpg "ladder lacing - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/ladder-lacing.jpg) **Benefits:** - **Ankle support** - **Prevents tall boots from sagging** - **Keeps laces tight This lacing method is usually only used for tall boots. Just be warned that it is hard to adjust the tightness of the laces. --- ## 11. Flat Arches [![boot lacing for flat arches](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/flat-arches-235x300.jpg "flat arches - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/flat-arches.jpg) **Benefit:** Provides more stability and support This lacing method pulls the midfoot area up and also tightens it further, thus providing the rigidity that flat arches need. --- ## 12. High Arches or Too Tight in Midfoot Area [![boot lacing for high arches](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/high-arches-208x300.jpg "high arches - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/high-arches.jpg) **Benefits:** - Reduces pressure on ball and heel of the foot - Allows more flexibility In contrast of flat arches, high arches require more flexibility.  By opening up the lower midfoot area, the foot has more room to move around, thus reducing pressure and pain. --- ## 13. Wide Forefront/Toe Box [![wide forefront boot lacing](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/wide-forefront-204x300.jpg "wide forefront - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/wide-forefront.jpg) **Benefit: Eases pressure on sides of foot** Some people have wide forefronts but regular heel areas.  This lacing allows the toe box of the boot to open up more to make space. --- ## 14. Army Lacing [![army lacing for hiking boots](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/army-lacing-157x300.jpg "army lacing - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/army-lacing.jpg) **Benefits:** - **Flexible fit** - **Breaking in new boots** - **Prevents pain on upper ridge of foot** - **Short laces** This lacing method is especially good for tall boots or if  you are breaking in new boots.  It alternates criss-cross lacing with open areas, so you get more room throughout and flexibility. --- ## 15. High Midfoot [![high midfoot boot lacing method](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/high-midfoot-209x300.jpg "high midfoot - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/high-midfoot.jpg) **Benefits: Reduces pressure in midfoot** This lacing method can be adjusted depending on how many eyelets your boots have and your foot shape: leave the laces open in the area where you are feeling pressure. ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking **Tags:** boots --- ### [Best Microspikes for Hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/best-microspikes-hiking/) **Published:** December 7, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** When hiking on packed snow or icy conditions, traction spikes aren’t just a “nice to have” item.  They should be considered an essential piece of safety gear.  And, yes, there really is a difference between brands of microspikes.  The last thing you want is to have your traction spikes fail on you during the middle of a hike in the backcountry. Here, I will focus on microspikes for *hiking*. For that reason, you’ll notice that traction systems like Yaktrax (which are only suitable for tasks like shoveling snow in your driveway) are *not* included. \*If you aren’t sure about how to choose traction spikes, [click here to jump down to buyer’s guide](#traction).  It goes over the types of traction spikes, materials, why some spikes cost so much, and more essential info. ## Quick Picks: - **Best Overall:** [Hillsound Trail Crampons](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F875696%2Fhillsound-trail-crampons%20) - **Best for mixed conditions:** [Kahtoola EXOspikes](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F178099%2Fkahtoola-exospikes-traction-system) - **Best for Trail Runners:** [Black Diamond Distance Spikes](https://amzn.to/4btnDts) - **Best Budget Option:** [Cimikz Traction Spikes ](https://amzn.to/3Fxzeu1) ## Comparison Table \[table id=77 /\] ## Best Traction Spikes Reviewed ### 1. Hillsound Trail Crampons **Best for:** Overall best traction spikes for hiking ## ![Hillsound Trail crampon microspikes for hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/hillsound-trail-crampon-winter-traction.jpg "hillsound trail crampon winter traction - Mom Goes Camping") **Specs:** - **Number of Spikes (per foot):** 11 - **Spike length:** 0.59” - **Weight (pair):** 15.7oz - **Base:** Hybrid - **Available at:** [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F875696%2Fhillsound-trail-crampons%20) and [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3VQxcdG) #### **Review:** Despite its name, these are actually microspikes and not true crampons. They are regularly picked as the best hiking microspikes for several reasons.  The main reason is because these are designed to stay in place well.  There is a Velcro strap over the toe area which really helps get a perfect fit.  It prevents snagging and keeps the spikes from moving around.   You won’t have to annoyingly readjust your crampons as you hike. The quality of the Hillsound Trail Crampons also stands out. You don’t have to worry about the elastomer harness s breaking and it’s stretchy enough to get on easily. If you look carefully at the sole, you’ll notice that there is a steel plate on the heel and toe area.  This connects the spikes.  Compared to chains, the plates do a better job of keeping the spikes in place and make the traction stronger.   It also holds the devices flush with your foot better than designs which use chain links. #### **Pros:** - Great traction - Spikes stay in place - Very durable - Easy to get on/off #### **Cons:** - Heavy #### **Hillsound Trail Crampon vs. Pro and Ultra** Hillsound also makes “Pro” and “Ultra” versions of these traction spikes.  The key differences are: - Pro version has much larger spikes of ¾” to 1”. These are heavy but for serious climbing on icy terrain. - Ultra version has 18 spikes. They are variable in length with most of them being ½”.  It doesn’t provide as much traction as the original version.  The spikes are made of hardened stainless steel, so it’s better if you need them where salt is used. **Available at [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F875696%2Fhillsound-trail-crampons%20) and** [**Amazon**](https://amzn.to/3VQxcdG) --- ### 2. Kahtoola Microspikes **Best for:** Tried and tested quality ![Kahtoola Microspikes for hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/kahtoola-microspikes-winter-traction.jpg "kahtoola microspikes winter traction - Mom Goes Camping") **Specs:** - **Number of Spikes (per foot):** 12 - **Spike length:** 0.375” - **Weight (pair):** 11oz - **Base:** Chains - **Available at:** [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F211907%2Fkahtoola-microspikes-traction-system%20) and [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3UBw5NK) #### **Review** Kahtoola is by far the best-known brand of traction spikes.  They’ve been around for a long time and have a huge following.  The quality is tried-and-tested: There are countless hikers who have *only* tried Kahtoola Microspikes simply because the pair they bought years ago is still going strong. Just because Kahtoola Microspikes are the most popular option, it doesn’t necessarily mean they are the best though.  There are reports of the newer models being cheaply made (at least compared to the previous models).  Even if the craftsmanship has dropped, Kahtoola Microspikes are still insanely good quality.  They will last for years and have a 2 year warranty.   The company is actually great about following the warranty. The only real complaint about Kahtoola Microspikes is that they are slightly difficult to get on.  The newer elastomer is lighter weight and isn’t as stretchy, so you might struggle to get them on with one hand.  Once they are on though, they stay in place nicely, despite the fact they don’t have toe bails. #### Pros: - Proven quality and durability - Great traction for weight - Stay in place well #### Cons: - A bit hard to get on - No toe bail - No XS size **Available at [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F211907%2Fkahtoola-microspikes-traction-system%20) and [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3UBw5NK)** --- ### 3. Black Diamond Distance Spike Traction Device **Best for:** Trail runners ![Black Diamond Distance traction spikes for winter hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/black-diamond-distance-winter-traction-device.jpg "black diamond distance winter traction device - Mom Goes Camping") **Specs:** - **Number of Spikes (per foot):** 14 - **Spike length:** 0.313” - **Weight (pair):** 6.7oz - **Base:** Chains - **Available at:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3Hfh01E) #### **Review:** The Black Diamond Distance traction spikes were designed for trail running.  However, they are also good for winter hiking in trail runners. The harness has elastomer on the heels but a soft-shell front.  The soft-shell material actually goes completely around your toe area, which adds a layer of warmth and keeps your feet from getting wet.  Another perk of the soft-shell harness is that you don’t get any pressure points on your feet like you would wearing a standard elastomer harness with trail runners. As for the spikes, they are 8mm (0.313”), which is a bit shorter than the Kahtoola Microspikes.  You won’t feel them as much under your feet. There’s a front toe spike for good traction when running and uphill.  The heel spikes are positioned a bit too far forward though, so the traction isn’t as good on the downhill. If you want to wear these with hiking boots, you are better off getting the [Black Diamond Access Spikes](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F174765%2Fblack-diamond-access-spike-traction-devices).  They have the same traction base as the Distance spikes, but with an elastomer harness.  Those weigh just 0.7oz more but fit boots much better.  The soft-shell toe will probably break if you pull them over bulky boots. #### **Pros:** - Very lightweight - Designed for trail runners - Soft-shell toe cover - Front toe spike - Heel loop for easy on/off #### **Cons:** - Heel spikes too far forward- poor traction on downhill - Don’t fit boots well - Not many size options - Pricy **Available at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3Hfh01E)** --- ### 4. Hillsound FlexSteps Traction System **Best for:** Chainless traction for short hikes or walks around town ![hillsound flexsteps winter traction for hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/hillsound-flexsteps-winter-traction.jpg "hillsound flexsteps winter traction - Mom Goes Camping") **Specs:** - **Number of Spikes (per foot):** 18 - **Spike length:** 0.25” - **Weight (pair):** 12.7oz - **Base:** PU plate - **Available at:** [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F182222%2Fhillsound-flexsteps-traction-system) and [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3BfGech) #### **Review:** The FlexSteps are very different from the other microspikes reviewed here.  They consist of 18 short spikes set in a polyurethane base.  Some people will love this chainless design because it means that snow and ice doesn’t stick to them while you hike or walk.  It also keeps the spikes from shifting like they would with chains. But the PU base also means that the traction devices probably won’t last as long.  If the base plate does crack or break, there’s no way of repairing them like you can with chains.  Because of this, they aren’t the best option for long, serious treks.  For shorter winter hikes or use around town, they are a very good option though. Like with the Hillsound Trail Crampons, these have a Velcro strap over the toe area.  It helps provide a very good fit.  They are fairly easy to get on/off and actually feel comfortable on a variety of footwear types. #### **Pros:** - Shed snow well - Great fit - Easy to get on/off #### **Cons:** - No XS size - Heavy - No way to repair base **Available at [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F182222%2Fhillsound-flexsteps-traction-system) and [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3BfGech)** --- ### 5. Kahtoola Exospikes **Best for:** Packed snow and mixed terrain ![kahtoola exospikes winter traction system](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/kahtoola-exospikes-winter-traction-system.jpg "kahtoola exospikes winter traction system - Mom Goes Camping") **Specs:** - **Number of Spikes (per foot):** 12 - **Spike length:** 0.29” - **Weight (pair):** 73oz - **Base:** Hybrid - **Available at:** [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F178099%2Fkahtoola-exospikes-traction-system) and [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3VZ5Z8N) #### **Review:** If you mostly need traction for hiking on ice, then these are *not* the right devices for you.  They are also terrible in loose snow because the spikes aren’t long enough to get traction. However, if you mostly encounter mixed terrain such as packed snow, some ice, rocks, thin mud and loose dirt, then these are a good option.  They perform best in packed snow. They are made with a thermoplastic polyurethane base that is supposedly sturdier than steel.  From what users say, they actually are able to take a beating. The criss-cross design does a decent job of shedding snow and mud (and is better than chains in this sense). The tungsten carbide tips are much harder and more durable than steel. It will take a very long time before they wear down.  Unfortunately though, Kahtoola does not sell replacement tips for these and there’s no way to sharpen them.  You’ll have to completely replace the traction system when they wear down. Compared to other traction systems, these are a bit tricky to get on.  The elastomer isn’t very stretchy, the toe tab is very small (especially with gloves on), and there isn’t anywhere to really grip them at the back. #### **Pros:** - Good at shedding snow - Lightweight - Can handle mixed terrain #### **Cons:** - Poor traction on ice - Hard to get on/off **Available At [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F178099%2Fkahtoola-exospikes-traction-system) and [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3VZ5Z8N)** --- ### 6. Snowline Chainsen Lights **Best for:** Ultralight traction on a budget ![Snowline Chainsen Lights](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/Snowline-Chainsen-Lights.jpg "Snowline Chainsen Lights - Mom Goes Camping") **Specs:** - **Number of Spikes (per foot):** 12 - **Spike length:** 0.29” - **Weight (pair):** 7.4oz - **Base:** Chains - **Available at:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3Fu7PZF) #### **Review:** When it comes to affordable winter traction, the Snowline Chainsen Lights are always mentioned.   Compared to other cheap options, these are definitely much better quality. These definitely don’t have the same quality as Hillsound or Kahtoola devices but – assuming you don’t wear them on rocky terrain – they hold up surprisingly well. Other than the price, the main draw of these microspikes is that they are very lightweight.  To get the weight down, they had to make the chains smaller.  So, don’t be surprised if the chains bend or break if you aren’t careful.  That can be fixed fairly easily with pliers though, but still don’t abuse these! The level of traction is great with these and work well on ice, packed snow and loose snow too.  Expect the spikes to wear down but you can sharpen them easily. Unfortunately, these are a last-season product.  Because of that, they are no longer available in a lot of stores. #### **Pros:** - Very affordable - Easy to get on - Lightweight - Good traction #### **Cons:** - No XS size - Don’t stay put well - Don’t withstand abuse **Available at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3Fu7PZF)** --- ### 7. Cimkiz Traction Spikes **Best for:** Very tight budgets [![cimkiz traction spikes for hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/cimkiz-traction-spikes.jpg "cimkiz traction spikes - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/cimkiz-traction-spikes.jpg) **Specs:** - **Number of Spikes (per foot):** 19 - **Spike length:** 0.5” - **Weight (pair):** 17oz - **Base:** Chains - **Available at:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3Fxzeu1) #### **Review:** This is one of the few generic brands of traction spikes which is actually a good quality.  That said, they are still a cheap microspike.  Don’t expect them to withstand abuse.  You will need to take them off before going on rocky terrain.   Otherwise you can expect the chains to quickly break. If treated well though and only used as intended, you can actually hike a lot of miles in the Cimkiz. And it’s nice that they come with a Velcro strap for getting a good fit.  The heel tab is actually large enough to make them easy to get on/off too. #### **Pros:** - Very cheap - Velcro strap for good fit - Easy to get on/off #### **Cons:** - Cheap quality - Do not withstand abuse **Available at [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3Fxzeu1)** --- \[sta\_anchor id=”traction” /\] ## Traction Types Traction is divided into types based on the size and shape of its points Terminology sometimes gets used interchangeably or incorrectly, so I’ll go over them here. ### Crampons: - Several vertical sharp teeth attached with straps - Teeth are usually at least 1 inch long - Designed for climbing and steep alpine terrain - Not for trekking - Require safety training – easy to stab yourself with the spikes! ![crampons vs microspikes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/crampons.jpg "crampons - Mom Goes Camping")Notice the long dangerous spikes on these crampons ### Microspikes: - Many vertical sharp teeth attached with chains or set on a plate - Teeth are usually at ¼ to 1/2 inches long - Meant for hiking or running on packed snow and moderately icy conditions - Lower learning curve than crampons but still can injure oneself ![microspikes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/microspikes.jpg "microspikes - Mom Goes Camping")The teeth on microspikes are much shorter ### Chains: - Chains provide moderate amount of traction - More comfortable than microspikes - Meant for packed snow - Not for steep or even hilly terrain - Safe – no risk of injuring self like with spikes ### Nanospikes, Cleats and Studs: - Many small sharp points, set on a plate - Points are less than ¼ inch long - Usually meant for running or walking - Not much traction - Typically sized to fit over athletic shoes - Lightweight - Better for mixed terrain ### Coils: - Many metal coils wrapped around a rubber base - Provide the least amount of traction - Very lightweight - Prone to failure - Meant for walking on flat terrain ## How to Choose Microspikes for Hiking ### Amount of Traction As a general rule, more spikes and larger spikes = better traction.  If you want to get really technical though, you can start looking at the placement of the spikes too.  For example, you might want microspikes with a point in the front toe area.  This is useful if you need to engage your toes, such as pushing off when running. ### Durability Microspikes have to endure a lot of abuse.  Even if you only use them as intended (on packed snow or moderately icy trails), the spikes are still subject to a lot of impact.  And, realistically, most hikers do *not* wear microspikes are intended.  They wear them on mixed terrain which consists of rocks and other hard surfaces. Considering this, it’s no surprise that cheaply-made microspikes quickly break. For example, the cheap YakTrax usually have a rubber band holding the traction in place.  The spikes move out of position easily.  Not only is this uncomfortable, but it means there is bigger impact on some spikes.  The spikes can completely break off.  The rubber also hits the ground and is subject to abrasion, so can break.  You can end up with spikes that completely break off. It’s really important you get durable microspikes.  Yes, they are more expensive but they last you longer.  Plus, **it could be a massive safety risk if your traction breaks mid-hike!** #### Signs of Durable Microspikes: - **Hardened stainless steel:** These will last much longer before they start wearing down. - **Metal plate or chains:** These are more durable than microspikes with rubber or plastic plates holding the spikes in place. - **Multiple chains connecting spikes:** The more chains connecting the spikes, the more likely they are to stay in place instead of shifting. This helps distribute the impact better so the microspikes are less likely to break. - **Reinforced eyelets on harness:** So the chains don’t tear out of the harness - **Rubber temperature rating:** Good brands of microspikes use rubber harnesses which are rated for cold weather. They will remain flexible even in extreme cold, and thus the harnesses are less likely to crack or break. Hillsound, Snowline and Black Diamond are all good brands for microspikes.  But, by far, Kahtoola microspikes are known for their durability.  They can endure insane amounts of abuse. **Note:** Even if the best brands of microspikes, the spikes will still eventually dull and wear down over time.  But you should be able to get at least 200-300 miles out of a good durable pair! **Tip:** Always carry a few zip ties and some paracord with you.  If the microspikes break, you’ll be able to repair them well enough to get you back to the trail head. ### Size and Fit Getting the right size is really important with microspikes.  It’s not just a matter of comfort but safety: if they are too large, your footwear will slip around.  If they are too small, they will pull upwards on your feet and make you less stable. Think carefully about what type of shoes you are going to wear with the microspikes.  Obviously you are going to need larger sized microspikes for bulky boots versus trail runners. **Tip:** Look for toe bails. This is a piece of steel at the toe area.  It prevents your boots from pushing through the chains. ### Base Type The spikes on traction devices need to stay put underneath your feet.  If they move around, you will experience slippage.  Spikes which move around also won’t equally absorb impact, so are more likely to break. There are three ways that spikes are held in place: chains, plates or hybrid bases. **Chains:** - Chains connect individual or sets of spikes. - Most likely to move and slip - Don’t shed snow or mud well - The chains themselves provide some traction - It’s possible to fix broken chains **Plates:** - Consist of flat plate (usually polyurethane) with spikes set on it - Spikes stay in place - Shed snow and mud well - Usually very comfortable - Base prone to cracking - No way to fix broken plate - Harder to get on **Hybrid:** - Consist of several plates connected by chains or polyurethane - Spikes stay in place very well - Fewer chains - Good balance between durability and stability ### Harness Almost all microspikes have harnesses made out of elastomer (aka polymer elastic). This material is flexible and stretchy, so it is easy to pull over your footwear and stays in place well. Not all elastomers are created equally though.  The cheap ones aren’t as stretchy or will lose their stretch, so won’t stay in place well. In cold temperatures, they will easily crack and break.  Once it breaks, there’s no way to fix it. This is one more reason to buy microspikes from trusted brands which use good-quality materials. **Pro Tip:** Get microspikes which have a Velcro strap over the harness.  This lets you adjust the fit of the microspikes so they don’t shift around on your footwear.  It’s also sometimes possible to DIY the Velcro strap yourself. ### Stainless Steel vs. Carbon Spikes Most microspikes have either hardened stainless steel or hardened carbon steel spikes.  Of the two, carbon steel is much more durable.  However, carbon steel rapidly corrodes when exposed to salt.  You do *not* want to use these on city streets or anywhere that salt is used! ### How Easy they Are to Get On/Off [![putting on microspikes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/putting-on-microspikes.jpg "putting on microspikes - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/putting-on-microspikes.jpg) When hiking on mixed terrain, you may need to take your microspikes on/off multiple times.  This can be incredibly annoying – especially with gloves on in freezing temperatures.  Some models of microspikes have a pull tab on the heel area to make this easier. ### Weight For all the ultralight backpackers out there, please don’t let weight dictate which microspikes you get.   Light weight generally means less traction and a harness which is more likely to slip around.  Don’t risk your safety in order to save an ounce or two! Instead, think about what type of terrain you are going to encounter and what the lightest microspikes suitable to that terrain is. ### Cost I am a big believer that you don’t need to have expensive gear to go hiking.  But there are some places where you simply shouldn’t skimp on gear – and that includes safety gear like microspikes. Saving $20 isn’t worth it if it means you risk falling off a mountain!!! Aside from the safety issue, **it’s almost inevitable that cheap microspikes will break.**  Microspikes have to endure a lot of abuse and ones with poor construction will not hold up.  There are countless stories on forums and Reddit of generic brand microspikes breaking mid-hike.  Like [this Reddit comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/f7o2op/microspikes_to_skimp_or_not_to_skimp/): > My friend had some $20 ones and they lasted about an hour. We had to cut our trip short and turn around after they broke. Not only does this ruin the hike, but you’ll then have to buy another pair of microspikes.  The phrase goes, “I’m too poor to buy cheap stuff.” There is an exception here though: If you only need microspikes for easy, flat terrain (such as when shoveling your driveway), then the cheap microspikes are fine.  But, if the success of your hiking trip depends on having good traction, spend the extra money to buy from a reputable brand. **Pro Tip:** Microspikes are infamous for causing rips in pants.  When hiking in a new pair of microspikes for the first time, make sure you’ve got good pair of reinforced gaiters on.  And maybe don’t wear your favorite pair of hiking pants! --- ###### Sources: <https://www.reddit.com/r/socalhiking/comments/kwmck1/what_brand_microspikes/>, <https://blog.dahlstromrollform.com/coastal-construction-correct-metal>, <https://www.industrialspec.com/about-us/blog/detail/what-are-elastomers-rubbers-elastomeric-material>, <https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/jxny9s/microspikes_recommendations/>, <https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/jxny9s/microspikes_recommendations/> ###### Image credits: “[Kahtoola Microspikes & Kahtoola LevaGait](https://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_az/51005397186/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Bill in Arizona](https://www.flickr.com/people/bc_az/) “[Teeth](https://www.flickr.com/photos/grongar/12310589435/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [grongar](https://www.flickr.com/people/grongar/) “[Crampons](https://www.flickr.com/photos/jev55/46177649322/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [jev55](https://www.flickr.com/people/jev55/) “[Trail blaze on Giant Ledge](https://www.flickr.com/photos/ke9tv/51335923744/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [ke9tv](https://www.flickr.com/people/ke9tv/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [Solved: Sleeping Pad Sliding Around in Tent](https://momgoescamping.com/sleeping-pad-sliding-in-tent/) **Published:** June 7, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Tent floors, especially made from UL materials like Silnylon, are very slippery.  Add a slippery inflatable pad and a slippery sleeping bag on top of this and you are bound to slide around in the tent. There are a lot of ways you can keep your sleeping bag put though, even if you are camped on an incline.  Here are the best methods. **Also:** If the pad’s staying put but *you* are rolling off it, then see these [ways to keep kids on their sleeping pads](https://momgoescamping.com/kids-rolling-off-sleeping-pads-camping/). ## 1. Use a Pad with a Non-Slip Coating Some sleeping pads have a non-slip coating to prevent sliding.  For example, the [Exped Ultra 5R](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F201646%2Fexped-ultra-5r-sleeping-pad) is non-slip on both sides. Therm-a-Rest also used to make a non-slip spray that you could put on your pads.   They don’t sell it anymore but you could probably make your own using contact cement.  Or use [Super Grip](https://www.amazon.com/Performix-075815100139-Super-Fabric-Spray/dp/B000UDCC8K?&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=e712fa561a718aedd8d8d1bf4ee33811&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl).  Just put a *thin* layer of contact cement on your pad.  Don’t put too much or debris will stick to it! ## 2. Create Texture A lot of backpackers put little blobs of [SeamGrip](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=seam+grip&dc=&ds=v1%3AtEHtNY0zmMr928nPPpNOBWUFqBw3WCmxwOcssr9wOc4&crid=3AZNMJIG5ZRXF&qid=1654610059&sprefix=seamgrip%2Ctools%2C300&linkCode=ll2&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=7114f8e146988708344a00544426200a&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) on their pad and/or tent floor.  The texture from the blobs creates some friction so the pad won’t slide on the floor. The problem with this approach is that the textured blobs can gather dirt.  A lot of people recommend to **use streaks instead of dots**; the streaks don’t gather as much dirt.  They also seem to stay on better than dots, which often peel off. **Instead of SeamGrip you can also use:** - **Silicone:** Works well on Silnylon but not so well on sleeping pads. To use, you’ll need to thin it down with a bit of paint thinner first.  Or use “flowable windshield sealant”. - **Goops:  S**uch as Shoe Goo and MarineGoop. They work well on most sleeping pads but not on Silnylon. **Instructions:** 1. Start with a clean pad and tent floor. Wash with soap and water if necessary and let it dry. 2. Make zig-zag streaks of SeamGrip or goop *down* your sleeping pad. The streaks should be thin. 3. Make zig-zag streaks of SeamGrip or thinned silicone *across* the tent floor. 4. Put some extra streaks in the areas where your hips will be. This is where most of your weight is and slippage is likely to occur. 5. Let the SeamGrip dry for at least 24 hours. ## 3. Put Thin Foam Under Pad Instead of putting SeamGrip all over your pad and tent floor, just put a very thin foam pad under you main pad.  It not only prevents slipping but also helps extend the life of your pad. There are a few backpacking brands which sell 1/8” EVA foam pads for this purpose.  If you want a cheaper and lighter solution, just use [non-adhesive shelf liner](https://amzn.to/3NZNkpa).   You don’t even need to put it under your entire pad.  Just put a 12×12” square under your hip area and that should do the trick. ## 4. Sleeping Bag with Pad Sleeve If your sleeping *bag* is also sliding off the pad (or you roll around a lot at night!), then consider a pad sleeve.  I just wish more brands had this feature on their bags.  Big Agnes is one of the few quality brands that has pad sleeves. ## 5. Use Hooks or Straps Instead of getting a sleeping bag with a sleeve, you can attach your sleeping bag to the pad using straps or hooks like the [Sea to Summit quick-release straps](https://www.amazon.com/Sea-Summit-Accessory-Straps-Release/dp/B004WBAEQI?th=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=34bb5096bacce4cce9f276a9cb9d5496&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl). Most sleeping bags don’t have pad loops though, so you will probably have to sew loops on.   It can be annoying to connect them every night and the straps add some weight, so this isn’t a great solution for thru-hiking, bike touring, or anytime you switch campsites frequently. ## 6. Sleep the Right Direction on Slopes When sleeping on sloped ground, most people set up the tent so their head is upwards.  In this case, you can put a sweater under your hips to keep yourself from sliding down. However, a better solution is to **sleep horizontally to the slope and prop up pad** (as shown in second picture). **Also read: [How to sleep on uneven ground](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-uneven-ground/)** [![how to sleep on a sloped campsite](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/how-to-sleep-on-a-sloped-campsite.jpg "how to sleep on a sloped campsite - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/how-to-sleep-on-a-sloped-campsite.jpg) ## 7. Velcro In general, it’s a bad idea to put Velcro to attach the pad to the tent floor.  For starters, the Velcro gathers lots of dirt.  Once dirty, it doesn’t stick very well.  It also only works if you sleep in the exact same spot in the tent each time – not something my family does.  If you switch pads, you’ll have to put the Velcro on each pad. But, if you want to try Velcro, here’s how to do it: 1. Make sure your tent floor and sleeping pad are clean and dry. 2. Use Velcro with a self-adhesive tape backing. 3. Cut two strips of Velcro. They should be about 5 inches long each. 4. The soft side of the Velcro should go on the tent floor because it gathers less dirt. 5. Keeping both sides of the Velcro together, remove the paper from the *rough* side of the Velcro. 6. Stick the Velcro to the sleeping pad. It should go *across* the pad. I’d put one strip underneath the head area and another strip at the hip area.  But I’ve seen it positioned differently too. 7. Remove the paper from the other side of the Velcro strips. 8. Put the pad on the tent floor. Be careful because you only get one chance to do this! --- Sources: <https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/c9egfl/antislip_strategy_for_sleeping_pad_and_bivy/> <https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/104578/> <https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DQB1Z2R/> <https://www.rokslide.com/forums/threads/how-do-you-keep-from-sliding-off-your-sleep-pad.12909/> Image credit: “[Relaxation](https://www.flickr.com/photos/70267096@N00/8230973533/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [tbone\_sandwich](https://www.flickr.com/people/70267096@N00/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** sleeping bags, sleeping pads --- ### [Best Lightweight Backpacking Pots](https://momgoescamping.com/best-backpacking-pots/) **Published:** December 3, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** It is surprisingly difficult to find a good backpacking pot.  Not only does the pot need to be lightweight and compact, but it also has to be big enough to fit all of your food and sit well on your stove.  Ideally, the pot will also have features like a built-in colander, measurement lines or a lid which you can use as a plate when backpacking with a partner. Here I will go over the best lightweight (and UL) backpacking pots — including ones which don’t cost a fortune. ## Quick Picks: - **Best Pot for UL Solo Backpacking: [Toaks 750ml with bail handle](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DToaks%2B750ml%2BTitanium%2BPot%2Bwith%2BBail%2BHandle%26pagesize%3D90)** It is the light backpacking pot I reviewed at just 3.9oz.  Yet is still durable and the bail handle makes it easier to use. - **Best UL Pot for Two People (or Solo Pot for Foodies): [Toaks 1.1L Pot with Pan Lid](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009MZHRKU/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B009MZHRKU&linkId=87d2acf347f2412f2a2c9d73dd5d7577)** The size is perfect for ziplock bag cooking for two backpackers. The extra capacity is also great for cooking real meals when solo hiking. The pan lid is ridiculously tiny but works well enough as a bowl or for mixing sauces. - **Best Pot for Group Backpacking: [Snow Peak Trek 1400](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000AR2N3U/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B000AR2N3U&linkId=b57937795c3dd6613f6a8bdf07f542e6)** The pot holds 1.4L and comes with a pan lid which you can use as a bowl or for mixing up sauces for more complex meals. --- ## Backpacking Pots Comparison Table \[table id=51 /\] ## **Best Backpacking Pots**   ### Evernew Titanium Pot and Cup Set **Best for:** UL solo backpacking, especially if you love hot drinks [![Evernew Titanium Solo UL backpacking pot and cup](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/evernew-titanium-solo-set.jpg "evernew titanium solo set - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/evernew-titanium-solo-set.jpg) While not as well-known as some brands, Evernew has a big following with ultralight backpackers.  Their titanium cookware is hand-pressed in Japan.  The titanium is very thin (0.3mm) but is still very durable. They make several different backpacking pots but I like this set best.  It comes with a 400ml cup for your hot drinks and a 750ml pot for your meals.  The larger pot nests into the smaller one.  You can fit two 4oz/110g gas canisters into the larger pot, or one canister plus your stove and extras.  The pot is too narrow to fit an 8oz gas canister. \*Note that Evernew also makes a line of non-stick titanium cookware.  It is made from “an organic non-teflon, silicone-based ceramic compound” which apparently doesn’t have the health risks of Teflon. - **Capacity:** 750ml + 400ml - **Material:** Titanium - **Weight:** 5.08oz - **Size:** 3.7W x 4.7H and 3.74W x 2.36H inches - **Measurement lines:** Yes - **Lid:** 1 - [**Buy Here** ](https://amzn.to/3KiKwDH) --- ### Toaks 750ml Titanium Pot with Bail Handle **Best for:** Solo UL backpacking [![Toaks Titanium backpacking pot with bail handle](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/toaks-with-bail-handle.jpg "toaks with bail handle - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/toaks-with-bail-handle.jpg) Toaks is one of the best known brands for titanium backpacking cookware.  They have a lot of different options, including various capacities and shapes of pots.   Their 750ml pot is the most popular option for UL backpacking.   I recommend getting this version that has a bail handle.  It is very useful, especially if the foldaway handles get too hot or if you run out of fuel and have to cook over a campfire. The pot is 3.75 inches wide, which means it can nest a 4oz/110g gas canister inside and still have room for your stove.  A Toaks 450ml cup or your 1L Nalgene bottle will also nest inside.  If you ever need to bring another pot, this one will nest inside the Toaks 1.1L pot and pan set. - **Capacity:** 750ml - **Material:** Titanium - **Weight:** 3.9oz - **Size:** 3.75W x 4.375H inches - **Measurement lines:** Yes - **Lid:** 1 - **Buy At [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EZIKUJY/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00EZIKUJY&linkId=88877ee5ea4c6f164c12d4053ff4901c), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DToaks%2B750ml%2BTitanium%2BPot%2Bwith%2BBail%2BHandle%26pagesize%3D90)** --- ### Toaks 1.1L Pot with Pan **Best for:** UL backpacking with two people; solo foodie backpackers, want to nest an 8oz gas canister [![Toaks 1.1L titanium pot with pan for backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/toaks-with-pan.jpg "toaks with pan - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/toaks-with-pan.jpg) I love the versatility of this backpacking pot and pan set from Toaks.  Because it is a two-piece set, you can make more complex meals.  For example, I often eat pasta with homemade dehydrated sauce.  It really helps to have a separate pan for rehydrating the sauce.  When hiking with a partner, one of you can use the pan as a bowl. The pan acts as a lid, so you don’t need to bring a separate lid and save weight. Note that the pan is ridiculously small though.  If you actually want to use it as a pan, you’ll have a hard time fitting anything inside it and flipping it.  The titanium isn’t nonstick, so food will stick if you try to fry in it. As with other Toaks products, the pot and pan set is designed to nest.  It will hold an 8oz gas canister inside with room for your stove on top.   It can also nest with the 750ml Toaks pot or fit into a larger Toak pot. - **Capacity:** 1.1L + 280ml - **Material:** Titanium - **Weight:** 5.6oz - **Size:** 4.5W x 4.375H inches (pot), 4.375W x 1H inches (pan) - **Measurement lines:** Yes - **Lid:** Pan serves as lid - **Buy At [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009MZHRKU/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B009MZHRKU&linkId=87d2acf347f2412f2a2c9d73dd5d7577), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dtoaks%2B1100%2Bwith%2Bpan%26pagesize%3D90)** --- ### Sea to Summit Alpha Pot **Best for:** Aluminum backpacking pot for two or more people [![Seal to Summit Alpha group backpacking pot](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/sea-to-summit-alpha-pot-1.9l.jpg "sea to summit alpha pot 1.9l - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/sea-to-summit-alpha-pot-1.9l.jpg) The Alpha Pot by Sea to Summit comes in four different sizes: 1.2, 1.9, 2.7 and 3.7 liters.  Each size pot can nestle into the larger size, making it convenient to bring multiple pots with you on group trips or car camping. These pots are made from anodized aluminum, so they will conduct heat better than titanium pots. The bottom edges of the pot are rounded so it’s easier to clean.  Another nice feature is that the handle locks the lid in place so items won’t fall out in your pack.  The handle is a bit heavy so it can make it hard to balance the pot on your stove. Note that the Alpha pots are designed to be wider and shorter. This annoyingly means the 1.2L Alpha pot is too short to fit an 8oz fuel canister. For this reason, I’d recommend the 1.9L or larger size for backpacking with a partner or in a group.  Sea to Summit also sells this pot as part of a set with bowls and cups. - **Capacity:** 1.9L (1.2L, 2.7L and 3.7L also available) - **Material:** Anodized aluminum - **Weight:** 8.1oz - **Size:** 6.5W x 4.7H x inches - **Measurement lines:** Yes - **Lid:** Has built in strainer and locks in place - **Buy At [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=9b4a044181fea33de1f9d25da70a9650&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=sporting&keywords=Sea%20to%20Summit%20Alpha%20pot), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dsea%2Bto%2Bsummit%2Balpha%2Bpot%26pagesize%3D90)** --- ### GSI Outdoors Halulite Boiler **Best for:** You want to cook real meals, even if it means carrying a slightly heavier pot [![GSI Halulite boiler backpacking pot](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/gsi-halulite-boiler.jpg "gsi halulite boiler - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/gsi-halulite-boiler.jpg) The Halulite Boiler by GSI Outdoors isn’t the lightest backpacking pot for its size.  However, it is made from a special type of aluminum which conducts heat more evenly.  This makes it great for backpackers who want to occasionally cook some real meals and not just boil water. You can fit an 8oz fuel cartridge in the 1.1L pot and still have room for your stove.  The lid folds over and locks in place.  To release the lock, you need to squeeze then handle.  Even though this is a pretty cheap backpacking pot, the handles do seem durable. - **Capacity:** 1.1L (1.8L also available) - **Material:** Halulite aluminum - **Weight:** 8.6oz - **Size:** 4.625 x 4.625 inches - **Measurement lines:** Yes - **Lid:** Locks in place - **Buy At [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GP1GSAO/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00GP1GSAO&linkId=2b20428c7808dd596d034e9c74fce407), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dgsi%2Bhalulite%26pagesize%3D90)** --- ### MSR Titan Kettle **Best for:** Solo UL backpacking when you want a slightly larger pot [![MSR Titan Kettle ultralight backpacking pot 850ml](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/msr-titan-kettle.jpg "msr titan kettle - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/msr-titan-kettle.jpg) The MSR Titan Kettle is an incredibly simple yet functional backpacking pot.  It is small enough to be used as a mug but, at 850ml, large enough to boil water for backpacking meals.  You could even cook some ramen in it or other simple meals. I like that that pot has a slight lip to it. When the lid is on, the lip allows you to strain water.  There is also a tiny steam hole vent in the lid.  The handles are pretty tiny but that does mean they won’t make the pot unbalanced on your stove. There aren’t any measuring marks inside the pot.  However, the little dots from the handle attachment points happen to be located at 8oz, 16oz and 24oz on the 850ml pot. Be warned that the titanium is pretty thin, so don’t bang this pot up! Also, the pot is slightly too short for an 8oz fuel canister.  They do make a 2L size though. - **Capacity:** 850ml - **Material:** Titanium - **Weight:** 4.2oz - **Size:** 4.6W x 3.8H inches - **Measurement lines:** No - **Lid:** Has built in spout - **Buy At [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FBSZF6/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B000FBSZF6&linkId=94845a7aa645298f5ec961d6a6729e99), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dmsr%2Btitan%2Bkettle%26pagesize%3D90)** --- ### Olicamp XTS Pot **Best for:** Budget backpacking pot that conducts heat well [![olicamp backpacking pot](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/olimp-pot.jpg "olicamp backpacking pot - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/olimp-pot.jpg) The Olicamp XTS was described by one user as “the poor man’s jetboil.” Considering how cheap it is, the XTS pot is really great.  It’s lightweight and withstands scratching well. The anodized aluminum conducts heat well.  It also has a cool heat transfer system on the bottom of the pot which does seem to do what it promises. There’s also an [even cheaper version of the pot](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BISBCXC/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00BISBCXC&linkId=a79465c2e82082a81dd2d99af54ff4a4) without the heat transfer system. One weird thing about the XTS pot is the lid.  It is made from a special type of silicone which can withstand high heat.  You can cook with the lid on and it won’t melt.  However, if you let the flame get too high, the lid or handles of the pot will melt – so be careful! There is a little vent hole in the lid but it isn’t a pour spout.  You’ll need to remove the lid to pour from the pot.  Note that dimensions are for the inside of the pot. - **Capacity:** 1,000ml - **Material:** Anodized aluminum - **Weight:** 7.6 oz - **Size:** 4.5W x 5.3H inches - **Measurement lines:** Yes - **Lid:** Silicone - [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007OJKI2U/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B007OJKI2U&linkId=c3913fa635d848b965df827cdabda4fb) --- ### GSI Glacier Stainless Steel Boiler **Best for:** Durability or campfire cooking [![GSI Glacier stainless steel backpacking pot](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/gsi-glacier.jpg "gsi glacier - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/gsi-glacier.jpg) As you’d expect from a stainless steel backpacking pot, this one is pretty heavy for its size.  But the weight may be worth it if you want a backpacking pot which can withstand a lot of abuse and occasionally be used over a campfire. It can hold an 8oz fuel canister and still fit a stove.  The handle locks in place.  I also like that the handle is long enough that it doesn’t get hot quickly.  But the handle does make the pot hard to balance. - **Capacity:** 1.1L - **Material:** Stainless steel - **Weight:** 12.1oz - **Size:** 4.8W x 5.2H inches - **Measurement lines:** Yes - **Lid:** Locks in place - **[Buy Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CCPCXN8/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07CCPCXN8&linkId=33d1ff95409981e2b89bd746d1f55fb7)** --- ### Snow Peak Trek 1400 **Best for:** Group backpacking [![Snow Peak Trek titanium ultralight pot for group backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/snow-peak-trek-1400.jpg "snow peak trek 1400 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/snow-peak-trek-1400.jpg) Snow Peak is another great brand which makes titanium backpacking pots in Japan.  Their products are really durable and have nice rounded edges for easier cleanup.  The Trek 1400 is the largest size.  Just the pot has a 1.4L capacity.  The pan is another 0.5L, so is actually very useable.    You can easily fit an 8oz fuel canister inside plus stove. The two-piece setup and size makes the Trek 1400 the best pot for group backpacking. There is also a smaller version of this setup in which the pot has 900ml.  I can’t find how big the pan is (I’ve never used it myself) but, based on my calculations, it should hold about 0.35 to 0.4L.   Snow Peak also makes a Trek 700ml mug but it doesn’t have the pan. \*Note that this is available on Amazon as well as REI.  For some reason, the Amazon description incorrectly lists it as being made from aluminum. - **Capacity:** 1.4L + 0.5L - **Material:** Titanium - **Weight:** 7.4oz - **Size:** 5.4W x 4.5H inches (pot), 5.75W x 1.5”H (pan) - **Measurement lines:** Yes - **Lid:** Pot serves as lid - **Buy At [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000AR2N3U/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B000AR2N3U&linkId=5ba0a6dbc28e56d91a954527a0e1c030), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dsnow%2Bpeak%2Btrek%26pagesize%3D90)** --- ## What Size Backpacking Pot? Choosing the right size backpacking pot is a tricky balance.  You don’t want it to be too big because it will be extra weight and room in your pack.  But you don’t want a pot which is too small either.  It will be difficult to cook meals (and thus more likely to burn food on the bottom) and you may even need to cook large meals in two batches. **Here are general guidelines on what size backpacking pot to get:** - **500-650ml pot:** Choose a small pot if you are solo backpacking and mostly just need to boil water for cooking in the bag. You won’t be able to fit large meals in a small pot so only choose this if you snack a lot during the day. - **750-900ml pot:** This size is good for solo backpacking if you need to cook meals. A full bag of Knorr pasta or a pre-packaged backpacking meal will fit in with room for add-ins. - **900-1000ml pot:** If you are solo backpacking, don’t care about weight much and want to be able to stir cooked meals well. It’s also great if you want to boil water for multiple things at once, like water for your meal and a hot drink. - **1000ml pot:** If you need to melt snow when solo backpacking, you’ll need at least a 1L pot. - **1200-1800ml pot:** This is a good size for two people. Go larger if you will cook proper meals that require stirring. **Not sure which size backpacking pot to get?** Choose an 800-900ml pot.  It is still lightweight but you’ll be able to cook proper meals in it and actually stir ingredients.   Even if you don’t “need” it, you’ll enjoy the luxury of having the extra space in the pot. ## Features to Look for in a Backpacking Pot ### Materials: Titanium vs. Aluminum vs. Stainless Steel Titanium pots are definitely the most popular option with ultralight backpackers.  However, they are very bad at conducting heat and you will get hot spots on the bottom of the pot.  Because so many backpacking pots are insanely thin, the hot spots can be a serious problem when cooking. As one backpacker said, “There’s nothing worse than ruining your meal to save a few grams.” If you want to cook real meals and not just boil water, then anodized aluminum is a better choice. These do a great job of conducting heat evenly.  Though usually better than titanium, stainless steel isn’t great for conducting heat evenly. Stainless steel is also very heavy but will hold up better under rugged conditions. ### Pot Shape - **Tall and skinny:** Pots with this shape are easier to balance on tiny backpacking stoves. But the shape makes it harder to cook proper meals where you have to stir ingredients.  It’s also annoying to eat from the pot. - **Short and wide:** These pots are more difficult to balance on a backpacking stove but definitely more enjoyable when it comes to cooking and eating meals. ### Handle Type Most backpacking pots have foldaway handles.  The handle either folds off to the sides or over the top.  I personally like the handles which go over the sides instead.  They are smaller, so will get hot.  However, they won’t cause your pot to get off balance and fall over like some larger pots do.  Also, if you want to stuff a lot of things into your pot without the lid on, you don’t have to worry about the handle getting in the way. \*If you use a windscreen with your backpacking stove, make sure it will fit with the handle.  You may need to cut a hole in the windscreen for the pot handle!  Here’s [how to make an UL windscreen for cheap](https://momgoescamping.com/diy-windscreen-canister-stove/). ![hole in windscreen for backpacking pot handle](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/hole-in-windscreen-for-backpacking-pot-handle.jpg "hole in windscreen for backpacking pot handle - Mom Goes Camping") ### Measurements Inside the Pot This is one of those small features which can make a big difference when backpacking.  Your meals will end up being the right consistency and you won’t have to waste fuel by accidentally boiling too much water. Almost all good backpacking pots now have this feature. ### Lid Function You will need a lid for your backpacking pot to speed up boil time (and thus save fuel).  Some pot lids have features like built-in strainers.   In pot/pan sets, the pan sometimes can be used as a lid.  I really like this feature because it allows you to save weight.  Even if you don’t need the pan, you can use it as a bowl. ### Does Your Stove and Fuel Canister Fit Inside the Pot? Some of the best brands of backpacking pots are designed to perfectly hold their fuel canisters and stoves.  This is a really nice feature because it will save lots of space in your pack. Just pay careful attention to the *interior* dimensions of the backpacking pot.  Many will only hold a 4oz/110g fuel canister and not larger 8oz/230g canisters. If the fit is really tight, you might not be able to get your windscreen or a towel around the canister (which helps prevent scratching). ### Do You Eat from the Pot? A lot of backpackers (myself included) want to eat out of the pot so they don’t need to bring an extra bowl.  I personally find this annoying to do with tall, skinny pots.   You’ll need an extra long spoon. Also note that many backpacking pots should not be used with metal spoons.  This includes titanium pots as well as any pot which has a Teflon coating. ### Is the Backpacking Pot Safe for Campfire Cooking or Wood Fuel Stoves? If you run out of fuel, it’s good to be able to use your backpacking pot over a fire as a backup.  Not all backpacking pots are safe for open fires though.  As a general rule, stainless steel is the best material followed by titanium and then aluminum.  It really depends on how thick the backpacking pot walls are though. Ideally, you would never set your backpacking stove directly on the open flame.  Instead, elevate the pot (see [these campfire cooking methods](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-cook-over-a-campfire/) with no extra gear required). That’s one more reason I like the Toaks pot with a bail handle as you can easily hang it over a fire. ### Price vs. Weight A lot of backpacking pots and cook sets are incredibly pricy.  These are usually ultralight backpacking pots made from titanium.  When deciding whether lightweight gear is worth it, I calculate how much more I need to pay per ounce. For example, if one pot costs $30 more but weighs 3oz less, I’m paying $10 per ounce.  I consider that a pretty good deal for a backpacking pot that I will use a long time. --- ###### Sources: <https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/ailmk9/pot_size_and_hiker_hunger/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/5l6ekj/determining_the_right_pot_size/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/4ymmbx/pot_sizes/> <https://bushcraftusa.com/forum/threads/titanium-over-fire.103525/> <https://www.trailspace.com/forums/gear-selection/topics/51293.html> Image credits: “[Alcohol Stove Lit II](https://www.flickr.com/photos/stusic/369086906/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [stusic](https://www.flickr.com/people/stusic/), “[st2](https://www.flickr.com/photos/vikapproved/9801778466/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [vikapproved](https://www.flickr.com/people/vikapproved/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Food, Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** cooking, pots --- ### [Best Marshmallow Sticks for Mastering S’mores](https://momgoescamping.com/best-marshmallow-sticks/) **Published:** March 29, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Roasting marshmallows is one of the best parts of camping. And, if you get creative, you can also roast all sorts of other meals and desserts on roasting sticks.  While it is pretty easy to make your own roasting sticks, there are some cool ones available which might be worth buying. ## Best Marshmallow Roasting Sticks When choosing marshmallow roasting sticks, avoid any which are gimmicky.  For example, you don’t need roasting sticks which are [designed like fishing lines](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DV02ITW/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00DV02ITW&linkId=8844d367cb67f879809aa16f377edf69) (dangling food over the fire is generally not safe or smart!).  Nor do you need a “[roasting reel](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NATTE7A/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B01NATTE7A&linkId=7353ddfe6d3931200165e5be222ce3bb)” (which is bound to break). Instead, the best roasting sticks will have features like: - Telescoping - At least 25 inches long - Stainless steel - Plastic or rubber safety caps to go over ends - Safety features, like dull or inverted ends - Can hold at least 0.5lb of food Below are my top picks for best marshmallow roasting sticks. ### 1. [Hadoife 5 Piece Telescoping Marshmallow Roasting Sticks](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08GC7HKSP/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08GC7HKSP&linkId=1caabf99e3efca7fdaa8299591d9d044) **Why:** These marshmallow roasting sticks with wooden handles are made from stainless steel and are telescoping from 12 to 32 inches.  I particularly love that they have LARGE safety caps.  You won’t immediately lose them like you would with the tiny caps that come on other sticks. --- ### 2. [Jolly Green Roast ‘Em Rotating Sticks 5 Piece Set](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01AYESJ5Y/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B01AYESJ5Y&linkId=9543cf9b620ef0cb20f3f88c53f41c04) **Why:** These are one of the better-built sets of roasting sticks.  They have a rotating mechanism built into them; the food will rotate by itself without you having to turn the handle.  The telescoping feature is also reliable and stays in place.  The handle is 5 inches long and they extend to 34 inches total.  There are plastic caps for the tips and the set comes in a storage bag. --- ### 3. [Ezire 10 Pack Roasting Sticks](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FCDFQJC/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07FCDFQJC&linkId=6873572953f4a775bdaec9c2cc898846) **Why:** This is a very good budget set of roasting sticks.  They are cheap but get the job done.  The sticks telescope out to 32 inches, have rubber protective caps and the set comes with two corn on the cob holders. --- ### 4. [M Mcirco 12 Pack of Roasting Sticks](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07WWLD2K6/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07WWLD2K6&linkId=1b7b923769415332ecced54be4d7ce58) **Why:** Another great deal, these roasting sticks extend from 10 to 45 inches.  They are multi-color, so each person can keep track of their own stick.  The rubber handles are molded and comfortable to hold. ## Do You Really Need to Buy Marshmallow Roasting Sticks? [![do you really need marshmallow roasting sticks](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/need-sticks-for-smores.jpg "need sticks for smores - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/need-sticks-for-smores.jpg) In most cases, you absolutely do *not* need to buy marshmallow roasting sticks.  You can just use a stick you find on the ground. In fact, found sticks are usually a lot safer for roasting marshmallows. “Professional” marshmallow sticks are sharp and can get really hot. Do you really want kids (or careless adults) handling a long, hot, spear-like object with a flaming marshmallow on the end? **However, metal roasting sticks do have their benefits compared to found sticks:** - **Roast heavier foods:** Found sticks usually aren’t sturdy enough for roasting heavy foods like hot dogs over a campfire. - **Piece hard foods:** The hard, pointy prongs on roasting sticks will pierce hard foods like corn on the cob.  This is nearly impossible with found sticks. - **No dirt or bark in your food:** Some people simply don’t like the idea of putting a dirty stick in their food. ## DIY “Professional” Marshmallow Sticks It’s pretty easy to make your own marshmallow sticks.  They don’t look very “professional” but get the job done.  The easiest method is to: - Find a long, sturdy wooden stick to use as your handle - Wrap sturdy wire around the end to make forked prongs Another method involves drilling a hole into a cylinder of wood then gluing a sturdy piece of wire in the hole.  I’ve also seen people make easy marshmallow sticks by attaching a fork to the end of a stick with wire or tinfoil.  They don’t look very pretty but get the job done. ![diy marshmallow sticks](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/diy-campfire-sticks.jpg "diy campfire sticks - Mom Goes Camping") ## Can You Use Wood Skewers for S’mores? Generally you cannot use wood skewers for making s’mores on a campfire.  They are too short and you could end up burning your arm.  The thin skewers will also quickly catch on fire, making them even shorter.  However, if you make a very small, controlled fire (such as in a small portable BBQ) or let a fire burn down into embers, wood skewers will work for roasting s’mores. Note there are some longer wood skewers sold for campfire roasting.  I generally don’t like these because they are weak.  If you put anything heavier than a marshmallow on them, they will bend.  You are better off finding a sturdy stick or buying stainless steel roasting sticks. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/wood-skewers-for-smores.jpg "wood skewers for smores - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/wood-skewers-for-smores.jpg)*Notice how close they have to get to the grill to roast marshmallows with wood skewers This would not be possible with a campfire*  ## Finding Sticks for Roasting Marshmallows[![best sticks for roasting marshmallows](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/best-sticks-for-smores.jpg "best sticks for smores - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/best-sticks-for-smores.jpg) Look for a stick on the ground which is a bit longer than your arm.  You don’t want the stick to be too long though or it will be hard to control (and thus potentially dangerous). One side of the stick should be as thick as your finger.  Bonus points if you can find a stick with a forked end for roasting multiple marshmallows at once. Test the sturdiness of the stick by trying to break the thinner end. It should be able to flex a bit without breaking. Using a knife, carefully shave one end of the stick into a point.  You don’t have to do this but it will prevent bark from getting into your marshmallow. **Never break sticks off of trees to roast marshmallows.**  Not only is it against the principles of Leave No Trace, but live branches might release nasty-tasting sap into your marshmallow. **It’s also possible to make s’mores without any sticks at all.  Check out how [here](https://momgoescamping.com/make-smores-without-sticks/).** --- ###### Image credits: “[Funtastics Gymnastics Camp – Ross Point](https://www.flickr.com/photos/rickmccharles/2624550277/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Rick McCharles](https://www.flickr.com/people/rickmccharles/), “[Marshmallows in the flames](https://www.flickr.com/photos/quinnanya/2521473174/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [quinn.anya](https://www.flickr.com/people/quinnanya/), “[Smores!](https://www.flickr.com/photos/ryochijiiwa/3091831874/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [ryochiji](https://www.flickr.com/people/ryochijiiwa/), “[Perfectly toasted marshmallow](https://www.flickr.com/photos/ruthanddave/21642819842/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Ruth and Dave](https://www.flickr.com/people/ruthanddave/), “[Marshmallow forks. Playing with Boulder](https://www.flickr.com/photos/51296717@N02/28576029526/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [ben.timney](https://www.flickr.com/people/51296717@N02/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Food **Tags:** smores --- ### [Best Camping Hatchets (And How Not to Be a Jerk When Using One)](https://momgoescamping.com/best-camping-hatchets/) **Published:** June 18, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** A hatchet can be incredibly useful to have while camping.  But, honestly, most camping hatchets are gimmicky and are used more like toys than tools.  Before you get a hatchet for camping, please consider whether you really need a hatchet and understand how to use it without being a jerk.  This guide will go over all of that plus the best camping hatchets which actually are up for the job. \[table id=31 /\] ## Do You Really Need a Camping Hatchet? As I talk about in this post about [camping saws](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-saws/), in almost all cases, you do NOT need a hatchet when camping. You’ll be able to gather enough firewood from the forest floor without having to hack up any fallen trees. If you can’t find enough dead wood on the floor, then you are probably in a: - High-traffic area *or* - Sensitive area with few trees In both of these cases, you shouldn’t be taking firewood from the ground.  The environmental impact is simply too great. ## The Only Reason You Need a Hatchet When Camping In many National and State Parks, collecting firewood is forbidden because decomposing wood is vital for the forest floor.  It is also forbidden to bring your own firewood because wood from outside sources can introduce invasive species like borer beetles, larval grubs, and fungi. ![why not bring your own firewood camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/bringing-your-own-firewood.jpg "bringing your own firewood - Mom Goes Camping")*The National Parks Service made a [campaign](https://www.nps.gov/mora/planyourvisit/buy-it-where-you-burn-it.htm) to inform people that they should never bring wood from home* If you can’t gather or bring firewood, that means you’ll have to buy it locally.  The wood is often sold in bundles of logs.  You will need a hatchet to split the logs into tinder and kindling to get your fire going. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/firewood-for-sale-local-min.jpg "firewood for sale local-min - Mom Goes Camping")*Firewood bundles for sale near a National Park* **Splitting locally-purchased firewood is the only reason I can think of to bring a hatchet camping.  If you are planning to use a camping hatchet for any other reason, then you probably aren’t following the rules of Leave No Trace.** ## Hatchets and Leave No Trace It absolutely drives me crazy to see hatchet marks on trees while in the woods.  Not only is it ugly, but people don’t realize how much harm they are doing by randomly hacking into standing trees. As Leave No Trace [says](https://lnt.org/axes-hatchets-and-leave-no-trace/), > Hatchet scars on live trees can allow disease to infiltrate their protective bark, which can damage or kill trees. **What about using a hatchet to chop dead branches off of trees?  Also a terrible idea and against the principles of Leave No Trace.** > Even dead branches and trees are vital for wildlife. Owls, woodpeckers and squirrels, along with numerous other animals, use snags (dead trees) to build nests and dens, find food, raise young, and hide from predators. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/hatchet-marks-on-tree-min.jpg "hatchet marks on tree-min - Mom Goes Camping")*Hatchet marks on a standing tree 🙁* **Please don’t be a jerk. Use your hatchet responsibly!** ## What about Using a Hatchet On Dead, Fallen Trees Assuming that it’s not forbidden, you *could* use a hatchet to chop up a fallen tree for firewood.  However, if there’s a dead tree on the ground, there’s also probably enough sticks on the ground for a fire.   It is less effort and a safer to gather sticks than hatchet up a fallen tree! Burning large pieces of wood in your campfire isn’t a good idea anyway.  Large logs don’t burn completely, which means you are left with smoldering logs at the end of the night.  These are difficult to extinguish and do cause forest fires.  It’s safer to burn smaller branches – which you don’t need a hatchet for. ### Hatchets for carving and bushcraft? A hatchet can be really useful if you want to chop wood pieces or de-bark for carving. They can also be used for slicing food, cutting up game, and a zillion other things. But most campers don’t need a hatchet for this.  And, if you really plan on doing a lot of bushcraft tasks, a knife is better suited for many of these tasks – like one of these [affordable outdoor knives](https://momgoescamping.com/best-first-knives-kids/). ## Best Camping Hatchets If you are going to buy local wood and chop it into kindling, then here are some good camping hatchets to choose from.  Otherwise, don’t bother getting a camping hatchet.  Save your money and use it for other cool gear – like a [better water filter](https://momgoescamping.com/best-backpacking-water-filters-purifiers/) or [permethrin clothing](https://momgoescamping.com/permethrin/). ### 1. Estwing Sportsman’s Hatchet ![eastwing camping hatchet](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/eastwing-camping-hatchet.jpg "eastwing camping hatchet - Mom Goes Camping") **Best For:** All around best hatchet for price and performance - **Handle Length:** 14” - **Cutting Edge Length:** 3.25” - **Handle Material:** Leather - **One-piece design** - **Head weight:** 14.9oz (0.93lbs) - **Weight:** 1.8lbs - **1055 high carbon steel** - **Nylon sheath** - **Made in USA** - **Price:** Mid - **[Buy Here](https://amzn.to/3edTEIk)** In my opinion, this is the sexiest camping hatchet you’ll find.  It is forged out of one-piece and is hand polished to get a mirror finish.  The handle is wrapped in leather, which greats a stunning appearance even from a distance. The camping hatchet isn’t just sexy; it actually performs well too.  The hatchet is drop forged from 1055 high carbon steel which holds its edge very well.  The one-piece design means the hatchet is stronger and it would take some serious misuse for the handle to break on you. As for the handle, the leather is coated in varnish so it doesn’t require maintenance.  Some people hate the varnish because it can get a bit slick.  If you want to put forth the effort, you can sand off the varnish to expose the leather.  Then you’ll need to regularly oil the handle as you would with any other leather tool.  I find it a bit ironic that the handle is made of leather but the hatchet now comes with a nylon sheath.   However, these are minor complaints for a mid-priced hatchet that performs so well. --- ### 2. Husqvarna 13 Inch Hatchet ![Husqvarna 13 Inch Hatchet](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Husqvarna-13-Inch-Hatchet.jpg "Husqvarna 13 Inch Hatchet - Mom Goes Camping") **Best For:** Newbies because the thicker handle will resist breaking well - **Handle Length:** 13” - **Cutting Edge Length:** 3 3/8” - **Handle Material:** Hickory wood - **Head weight:** 1.2lbs - **Weight:** 2.1lbs - **Price:** Mid - **Lifetime warranty** - **[Buy Here](https://amzn.to/3davYmU)** This is a mid-priced hatchet with a classic style that is good for cutting firewood as well as some light tasks around the home, like cutting branches. At this price, don’t expect perfection.  However, the hatchet has some nice features. The hatchet head is actually hand-forged.  The head weighs 1.32lbs by itself and stays attached to the handle without any wobbling. I can’t find any info about what type of steel is used to make the axe head, but it holds its edge well. The handle is made from hickory wood.  A nice thing about wood handles is that, if it breaks (which is almost always due to improper use), you can easily get a replacement handle. The handle is a bit thick, so not great for small hands, but this does help resist breaking. The main downside of this hatchet is that it is a bit heavy.  Inexperienced people might appreciate the extra force from the weight but it will drain your arm if you need to chop a lot of wood. Shape of the handle makes it a bit uncomfortable to use as a hammer, but should be fine for tent stakes. --- ### 3. Gransfors Bruk Wildlife Hatchet – Best High End Pick ![Gransfors Bruk Wildlife Hatchet](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Gransfors-Bruk-Wildlife-Hatchet.jpg "Gransfors Bruk Wildlife Hatchet - Mom Goes Camping") **Best For:** Serious outdoors people who use their hatchet often - **Handle Length:** 13.5” - **Cutting Edge Length:** 3” - **Handle Material:** Seasoned hickory wood - **Head weight:** 1lb - **Weight:** 1.3bs - **High carbon steel** - **Edge hardened to about 57 RC** - **Convex grind** - **Price:** Pricy - **[Buy Here](https://amzn.to/2N5RIWr)** If you are ready for a more serious camping hatchet, Gransfors makes truly gorgeous hatchets.  They are all handmade in the village Gransfors in Sweden.  Just hold a Gransfors hatchet after holding a cheaply made hatchet and you’ll understand what enthusiasts mean when they say “balanced.” Because it is handmade, the length of the handle varies slightly from 13.5 to 14 inches.  They also make a shorter handled hatchet but the extra length will give you more power and versatility.  This hatchet is definitely tough enough for felling wood as well as chopping drywood and softwood. The hatchet head weighs 1lb and is 3 inches from toe to heel and 5 inches from toe to butt.  There is a convex grind on the head which is incredibly sharp. The high carbon steel holds its edge well. The mirror finish looks gorgeous.    The design of the hatchet means you can use it for camping firewood as well as cutting, slicing, and chopping game. One slight downside to the hatchet for camping is that its poll (butt) is a bit rounded.  It’s still okay for hammering tent pegs but you can’t use it for general hammering. It’s lightweight enough to carry around with you, comes with a leather sheath, and should last several lifetimes if cared for. --- ### 4. Fiskars X7 Hatchet [![Fiskars X7 Hatchet](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Fiskars-X7-Hatchet.jpg "Fiskars X7 Hatchet - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Fiskars-X7-Hatchet.jpg) **Best For:** People on a tight budget - **Handle Length:** 14” - **Cutting Edge Length:** 5” - **Handle Material:** FiberComb - **Head weight:**25lbs - **Weight:**4lbs - **Price:** Budget - **Lifetime warranty** - **[Buy Here](https://amzn.to/30Sty9P)** At under $25, don’t expect this hatchet to cut through large pieces of hardwood. However, for chopping pre-cut logs into kindling, it performs surprisingly well. It is well balanced and a good starter hatchet for newbies who only need it for camping.  The main downside is that the handle, made from molded carbon fiber, has a weird feel to it. **Please use your hatchet responsibly! And happy camping 🙂** --- ###### Sources: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOKc3fmuE2k> <https://lnt.org/axes-hatchets-and-leave-no-trace/> <http://bushwalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8490%20> <http://www.canoetripping.net/forums/forum/gear/miscellaneous/203-camp-saw> <https://www.reddit.com/r/CampingGear/comments/cq0id4/axes_versus_saws_and_leave_no_trace/> <https://www.pcta.org/discover-the-trail/backcountry-basics/leave-no-trace/axes-hatchets-saws/> <https://lnt.org/axes-hatchets-and-leave-no-trace/> <https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/handle-length-vs-head-weight.1354431/> <https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/can-you-use-a-shorter-handle-on-a-heavier-head.1049708/> ###### Image credits: “[Fat Bundles of Firewood For Sale on Side](https://www.flickr.com/photos/puroticorico/9045867564/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [puroticorico](https://www.flickr.com/people/puroticorico/) “[Hatchet](https://www.flickr.com/photos/high_trails/31084076703/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [High Trails](https://www.flickr.com/people/high_trails/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [14 Expert Tips for Using Child Hiking Carriers](https://momgoescamping.com/tips-child-hiking-carriers/) **Published:** August 24, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Most children aren’t able to [complete hikes on their own](https://momgoescamping.com/how-far-can-kids-hike/) until they are at least three or four years old.  So, unless you want to carry your kid in your arms (you don’t!), you’ll need a child hiking carrier.  There’s a high learning curve to using child carrier backpacks though.  Here are some tips to make the experience go more smoothly. ## 1. Read the Instructions Most of the “best” hiking carriers have tons of bells and whistles.  This is one case where you’ll actually want to actually read the instructions.  Otherwise, you might miss an important feature or adjust straps incorrectly.  For example, the Deuter Kid Carrier (see on [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DDeuter%2Bchild%2Bcarrier), [Amazon](https://amzn.to/32iB9O9)) has a water bladder compartment, but it’s hard to find without consulting the instruction book. ## 2. Some Features Are Worth the Extra Cost Child hiking carriers are expensive.  I tried to save money by purchasing a secondhand off-brand carrier for my daughter.  It only cost about $30 but lacked a lot of features.  Ultimately I found it too annoying to use.  After that carrier, I happily paid more for: - A good suspension system! - Hydration pack compatible - Front pillow/drool sponge - Big hip belt storage pockets - Sun roof - Removable day pack - Rain cover **Tip:**Check out [**REI’s Outlet**](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Frei-garage).  You can sometimes find big discounts on child hiking carriers. ## 3. Attach a Mirror to the Carrier Some hiking child carriers come with mirrors attached to the straps. The mirror is incredibly helpful for checking on your child (see if they are sleeping, have too much sun, hat fell backwards…).  If your carrier doesn’t have a mirror, you can get one of those little camping signal mirrors and attach it with a carabiner. ## 4. Use Trekking Poles for Stability [![use trekking poles with a child hiking carrier](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/trekking-poles-for-hiking-carrier.jpg "trekking poles for hiking carrier - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/trekking-poles-for-hiking-carrier.jpg) Don’t mess around while carrying your child in a hiking carrier – use trekking poles!  Carriers are top-heavy and thus make it harder to balance.  Even if you are used to carrying heavy loads, you’ll still probably want poles as kids don’t sit still like normal cargo does. [Research shows](https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/talking-of-walking-in-three-easy-pieces) poles will help distribute the weight throughout your body and give you stability while saving your back. **Read this post about the [pros and cons of using trekking poles](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-poles-pros-cons/)** ## 5. Your Child Should Sit As Low As Possible Adjust the seat in the carrier so your child is at low as possible while still having his/her head out (your child should be able to see well in front and to the sides). Keeping the seat low helps prevent the carrier from being too top-heavy.  A top-heavy load is a lot harder to a balance. ![child carrier for big kid](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/heavy-hiking.jpg "heavy hiking - Mom Goes Camping")*A child positioned low in a hiking carrier means better balance* ## 6. Choose a Hydration Compatible Carrier As mentioned before, some features are worth paying extra for.  The most important one is a hydration compatibility. If you don’t have a hydration pack, you will have to keep a water bottle in a side pocket.  These side pockets are NOT accessible while you have the carrier on! You’ll either need to ask a partner to hand you the water bottle each time you want a sip or (worse) take the carrier off to get the water. ## 7. Never Leave the Carrier on a Picnic Table Or any other elevated platform.  While it is easier to put on/take off a carrier from here, the carrier could also topple over and send your child falling to the ground. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/kid-topple-over-in-carrier-min.jpg "kid topple over in carrier-min - Mom Goes Camping")*This is NOT safe* ## 8. Bring a Foam Pad When hiking with a baby or toddler, you’ll need to take a lot of breaks – for your child to stretch and for you rest your back.  A foam pad means you’ll have someplace to put your baby down and for you to sit.  As a bonus, the pad doubles as a changing pad. ## 9. Only Pick Up the Carrier by the Center Loop If you try to pick up the carrier by the straps when putting it on, the carrier will get off-balance and the entire thing will flip – with your child in it! ## 10. Use Carabiners to Attach a Snack Cup Once your kids get a bit older and can feed themselves, use a carabiner to attach a cup to the carrier.  They will happily snack while you hike. ## 11. Wear a Daypack in the Front One of the things that annoys me most about child hiking carriers is that the storage pockets are in the back.  To access anything on solo hikes, you have to take the entire carrier off. Not fun! A simple solution is to wear a daypack in front.  The [Deuter Kid Comfort Pro](https://amzn.to/3ALnQbX) even comes with a daypack which you can clip to the front. I personally find that daypack a bit too big (I’m only 5’1” and it hangs too low on my small frame).  Other solutions are to get shoulder strap attachment pouches or sometimes I even hike with my purse.  Yes, my normal everyday purse! ## 12. Cover Muddy Shoes with Bags Once kids get a bit older, they will probably spend part of the hike in the carrier and part hiking.  In good conditions, this isn’t an issue.  But, in muddy or snowy weather, it means your kid’s shoes get really dirty – and then have to go back in the carrier. I’m not afraid of a bit of mud but it’s no fun to clean inches of mud from your carrier.  The mud also gets on *your* clothes since your child’s feet in the carriers are right on your sides.  Try going to lunch after a hike covered in mud like this and see how many stares you get! A simple solution is to bring some baggies to put over your child’s feet each time they go back into the carrier.  Even better, get some nylon drawstring bags.  One hiker I talked to uses old umbrella cover bags for his kid’s feet. ## 13. Do a Test Run At Home You don’t want to be fiddling with straps and adjustments while you are on the trail.  Absolutely do a test run *before* you go hiking. Adjust the straps. Load up the carrier with *everything* you’ll bring and test it out.  Then adjust the straps again.  If you aren’t sure how to fit a backpack properly, here’s a good [video](https://youtu.be/_zMbo_Ibfv4). **Note:** Wear your hiking clothes when doing the test run – your carrier will have different adjustments in summer vs. in winter when you’ve got a bulky jacket on. ## 14. Consider a Hiking Stroller for Toddlers Yes, I know all the “serious” hikers use child carrier backpacks – but that might not be the right solution for you.  I’m a very petite mom and I lost a lot of my core strength during this last pregnancy.  Now that my daughter is two years old and very heavy, I have a hard time carrying her in the backpack carrier.  The hikes are exhausting and I don’t enjoy them as much. Instead, I’ve had to redefine what hiking means to me.  Now, I mostly take my toddler out on stroller-friendly hikes.  This allows us to be outside together all day in a way that *both* of us enjoy. **Read more about [hiking carriers vs. strollers](https://momgoescamping.com/stroller-vs-hiking-carrier/) here.** **Also read:** - [**What to Bring when Hiking with Kids**](https://momgoescamping.com/gear-hiking-with-kids/) - [**Advice for Camping with Toddlers**](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-with-toddler/) - [**Best Hiking Child Carriers for Petite Women**](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-child-carrier-petite-women/) - **[Frame Carriers vs. Soft Carriers for Hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/soft-vs-frame-backpack-hiking-carrier/)** **Do you have any tips for using child hiking carriers? Let us know in the comments.** --- ###### Image credits: “[20140510-162047-d610-DSC\_7971](https://www.flickr.com/photos/vasile23/14129249890/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [vasile23](https://www.flickr.com/people/vasile23/), “[Daddy pose](https://www.flickr.com/photos/vasile23/10356685444/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [vasile23](https://www.flickr.com/people/vasile23/), “[Baby Hiker](https://www.flickr.com/photos/kteague/170116149/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [kteague](https://www.flickr.com/people/kteague/), “[Taman Negara](https://www.flickr.com/photos/phalinn/30509993973/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Phalinn Ooi](https://www.flickr.com/people/phalinn/), ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking **Tags:** babies, carriers, toddlers --- ### [Best Backpacking Water Filters and Purifiers](https://momgoescamping.com/best-backpacking-water-filters-purifiers/) **Published:** December 22, 2019 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Figuring out which water filter or purifier to take backpacking is a confusing task.  On one hand, you’ve got people who say they drink directly from mountain streams and are “fine.”  On the other, there’s the risk of getting gut-wrenching diarrhea in the middle of your trip. Speaking from experience, it’s hard to dig a cathole when you are vomiting and crapping every 15 minutes! At best, a waterborne disease can make for a miserable day hiking.  At worst, you can end up seriously ill and stranded in the middle of the wilderness and hopefully have a SPOT device or other [way to call for help](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-communication-devices/). Because of how serious waterborne illness can be, it is really important you treat water before drinking it.  The same applies to tap water when traveling in underdeveloped countries.  **It’s simply not worth the risk to drink untreated water, even from clear mountain streams.** However, that doesn’t mean you have to bring an expensive, complex, or heavy water purifier on your trip.  I usually just bring the Sawyer Mini, which is dirt cheap and weighs a mere 2oz. Let me emphasize that *no water treatment system is perfect.* There’s always going to be some tradeoff.  For example, micro filters that remove viruses have low flow rates and clog easily.  Water filters that can remove chemicals have cartridges that have to be changed frequently, so end up costing a lot in the long run. In this article, I will go over these tradeoffs so you can pick the best water filter or purifier for your trip.  Price, weight, ease of use, and effectiveness have all been taken into consideration. ## My Recommendation? The choice of best backpacking filter/purifier really varies depending on your budget and where you are going.  I recommend: - **The MSR Guardian:** For serious backpackers because it treats pathogens including viruses. It treats up to 10,000 liters so pays off in the long run. Get it at  or [Amazon](https://amzn.to/34Qkj8I). - **Sawyer Mini:** In backcountry areas where viruses aren’t a concern, the Sawyer Mini is a cheap, lightweight solution for treating water. Get it at  or [Amazon](https://amzn.to/2QakPJ8). ## Best Backpacking Water Filters and Purifiers \[table id=19 /\] \*I calculated the cost per liter of water treated based on current price at time of writing. Prices may have changed! ### 1. Sawyer Mini Water Filter ![Sawyer Mini backpacking water filter](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/sawyer-mini-copy.jpg "sawyer mini copy - Mom Goes Camping") **Best For:** Backpackers on a budget in places where viruses aren’t a concern. - **Type:** Squeeze filter and straw - **Weight:** 2oz - **Life:** 100,000 gallons - **Time:** 0.5-1 liters per minute - **Price per liter filtered: <** $0.01 - **Treats:** Bacteria, protozoa, eggs - **Buy At:** , [Amazon](https://amzn.to/2QakPJ8) --- #### Review: I am a huge fan of the Sawyer Mini water filter and have been using the same one for 5+ years over dozens of trips.  The main reason that I love the Sawyer Mini is because it has an infinite filter life.  So long as you don’t let the filter freeze after using it (which would cause the water inside the filter to expand and destroy the filter membrane), it will last you *forever*. The initial price of the Sawyer Mini is very cheap.  Since you never have to replace the cartridge, the long-term price of this is dirt cheap.  It ends up costing less than 1 cent per liter treated. The main downside about the Sawyer Mini is its incredibly slow flow rate.  Since it’s a squeeze type filter, your hands can get tired as you manually push the water through the filter.  The squeeze bags that come with the filter are really cheap and will burst.  For this reason, I don’t even bother with the squeeze bags anymore; I just screw the Sawyer Mini on top of a plastic water bottle and squeeze the bottle.   It’s definitely not ideal to use, but for the price and weight, it is great for backpackers on a budget. Note the Sawyer Mini doesn’t remove viruses.  Viruses aren’t a concern in most remote wilderness areas.  On popular hiking trails where hikers poo near water sources, or for traveling in underdeveloped countries, you’ll want to treat the water after filtering with boiling, UV light, or treatment tablets. Read my [full review of the Sawyer Mini](https://momgoescamping.com/sawyer-mini-water-filter-review/) here. #### **Pros:** - **Incredibly cheap** - **Never replace a filter cartridge** - **Lightweight and compact** - **Versatile** #### **Cons:** - **Very slow flow rate** - **Clogs easily in murky water** - **Can’t be frozen** - **Squeeze bags burst easily** --- ### 2. MSR MiniWorks EX ### ![MSR MiniWorks Ex filter](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/msr-miniworks-ex-copy.jpg "msr miniworks ex copy - Mom Goes Camping") **Best For:** A cheap way of treating viruses after filtering - **Type:** Filter - **Weight:** 16oz - **Time:** 1 liter/minute - **Price per liter filtered:** $0.045 - **Treats:** Bacteria, protozoa, eggs, some chemicals, bad tastes - **Buy At:** , [Amazon](https://amzn.to/393jQmQ) --- #### Review: The MSR MiniWorks Ex is one of the most popular backpacking water filters.  It is a ceramic filter with an absolute pore rating of 0.1 microns.  This will keep out bacteria, protozoa, and large pathogens like tapeworm eggs. What makes the MiniWorks Ex different from other filters is it has a carbon element which will also remove some chemicals.  It will also remove bad tastes from water.  It boasts an “AirSpring Accumulator” mechanism which makes pumping easier and faster.  You will still only get 1 liter per minute though and the filter tends to get clogged. Instead of backflushing, you can dissemble the filter in the field and scrub it clean.  I personally find this method more effective than backflushing, especially when you don’t have clean water reserved for backflushing. The other cool thing about the MSR MiniWorks Ex is it attaches to a Nalgene bottle, so you can pump directly into the bottle.  The 2,000 filter life means it works out to about 5 cents per liter treated.  Not bad for a filter which removes some chemicals too! The main downside is the filter is very heavy at 16oz.  It’s also pretty bulky, so not exactly suitable for thru hiking or ultralight backpacking. #### **Pros:** - **Removes chemicals and bad tastes** - **Good filter life** - **Easy to pump** - **No backflushing to clean** #### **Cons:** - **Very heavy and bulky** - **Tends to clog** --- ### 3. MSR Guardian ![MSR Guardian backpacking water purifier](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/msr-guardian-copy.jpg "msr guardian copy - Mom Goes Camping") **Best For:** Backpackers who don’t mind investing in gear that will pay off over the long run. - **Type:** Pump filter - **Weight:** 17.3oz - **Cartridge Life:** 10,000+ liters - **Time:** 2.5 liters per minute - **Price per liter filtered:** $0.03 - **Treats:** Bacteria, protozoa, eggs, viruses - **Buy At:** , [Amazon](https://amzn.to/34Qkj8I) --- #### Review: The MSR Guardian has long been considered the best backpacking water filter.  Albeit quite heavy, the filter boasts impressive features that virtually no other filter can rival For starters, the filter is very easy to use.  You still have to pump the Guardian, but the large hand lever makes this easy. There’s a long tube for drawing in the dirty water, so you don’t have to crouch close to the water source like with some water filters. The 2.5 liter/minute flow rate is much faster than most backpacking water filters.  The MSR Guardian also boasts a built-in backflush system so you don’t ever have to clean the filter out.  After dealing with clogs when filtering lake water multiple times, this is a feature you can really appreciate! The MSR Guardian pore size is 0.02 microns.  The small pore size means it is capable of removing viruses as well as bacteria, protozoa, and worm eggs.  You’ll be able to use it in the wilderness or when traveling abroad. The major downside of the MSR Guardian is its high price tag.  However, the cartridge lasts 10,000+ liters.  That breaks down to about $0.13 per liter treated.  If you plan on backpacking or traveling abroad frequently, the investment pays off quickly. #### **Pros:** - **Treats viruses** - **Self-cleaning filter** - **Fast flow rate** - **Easy to use** - **10,000+ liter life** - **Pays off on long run** - **Suitable for backpacking and travel** #### **Cons:** - **Expensive initial buy** --- ### 4. Katadyn Hiker Pro Clear ![katadyn hiker pro water filter](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/katadyn-hiker-pro-copy.jpg "katadyn hiker pro copy - Mom Goes Camping") **Best For:** Backpackers willing to pay more to remove bad tastes and some chemicals - **Type:** Pump filter - **Weight:** 11oz - **Cartridge Life:** 200 gallons - **Time:** 1 liter per minute - **Price per liter filtered:** $0.23 - **Treats:** Bacteria, protozoa, eggs, some chemicals, bad tastes - **Buy At:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/393heW4) --- #### Review: The Katadyn Hiker Pro is a pump-type water filter.  It’s got a nice big hand pump, so is fairly easy to use.  I also like that it has a tube that goes into the water so you don’t have to crouch right into the water source. Compared to other backpacking water filters, the Katadyn Hiker Pro stands out because it has an activated carbon element in it.  This removes some chemicals and bad tastes from water.  It won’t treat viruses though. The main downside of the Hiker Pro filter is it has a short cartridge life of 200 gallons.  If the water is very murky, it will last even less.  Replacement cartridges are pricy; over the long run, this ends up costing quite a bit in replacement cartridges. #### **Pros:** - **Easy to use** - **Treats some chemicals** - **Removes bad tastes from water** #### **Cons:** - **Expensive over long run** - **Slow flow rate** - **Clogs easily** --- ### 5. MSR Trail Base/Trail Shot [![MSR Trail Base and Trail Shot](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/trail-base.jpg "MSR Trail Base and Trail Shot - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/trail-base.jpg) **Best For:** Hikers who want versatility - **Type:** Gravity and hand pump - **Weight:** 19.6oz (complete); 5oz (just TrailShot filter) - **Time:** 1 liter/minute - **Price per liter filtered:** $0.09 - **Treats:** Bacteria, protozoa, worm eggs - **Buy At:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/2Zh3h27) --- #### Review: The MSR Trail Base might just be my new favorite water treatment system.  The main kit is set up as a gravity filter, which means you can effortlessly filter water without having to do any annoying pumping.  For backpacking in large groups, this is a great feature to have. What if you don’t need a large gravity system? Or what if you have a shallow water source and can’t fill the gravity bags?  No problem – the filter component (called the TrailShot) detaches.  You can then use the TrailShot independently as a hand-pump filter. The TrailShot by itself is only 5oz.  Simply put the tube into water and squeeze the pump to draw out clean water.  You can backflush the filter to clean it.  The system lifespan is 1,500 liters of water, which comes out to roughly $0.09 per liter of water filtered.  It’s not the cheapest option, but it is damn affordable considering how versatile the system is. #### **Pros:** - **Use as gravity filter or hand pump** - **Long cartridge life** - **Hand pump is easier than squeezing** - **Affordable system** #### **Cons:** - **Heavier than other gravity filters** --- ### 7. Aquatabs Water Purification Tablets **Best For:** Treating viruses after filtering - **Type:** Tablets - **Weight:** 3oz per 100 tablets - **Time:** 30 minutes - **Price per liter filtered:** $0.01 - **Treats:** Bacteria, protozoa (not crypto), viruses - **Buy At:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3VbS2Xe) --- #### Review: Aquatabs are cheap water purification tablets.  The reason they are so cheap is because they only kill bacteria and viruses.  They won’t reliably kill protozoa like Crypto, or worm eggs.  So why do they make it to the list of best backpacking purifiers? These tabs are great because they are an affordable way to kill viruses in water.  First use a cheap backpacking water filter like the Sawyer Mini and then use one of these tabs; you’ve just treated the water of all possible pathogens. #### **Pros:** - **Very cheap** - **Kills viruses** #### **Cons:** - **Can’t be used alone for treating water** - **Leaves a slight taste in the water** --- ### 7. Katadyn Micropur MP1 Tablets ![Katadyn micropur tablets](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/katadyn-tablets.jpeg "katadyn tablets - Mom Goes Camping") **Best For:** Ultralight hikers who prefer tablets over filters - **Type:** Tablets - **Weight:** 1oz per 20 tablets - **Time:** 15 minutes to 4 hours - **Price per liter filtered:** $0.55 - **Treats:** Bacteria, protozoa (including crypto), viruses - **Buy At:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/2sUcZLD) --- #### Review: The Micropur MP1 tablets by Katadyn are one of the few which can kill Cryptosporidium in water.  It also treats bacteria, protozoa, and viruses in water.  The downside is that there is a 15 minute wait time for bacteria and viruses and *4 hours* for Crypto! Remember that chemical treatments don’t kill worm eggs like from tapeworms.  Thus, I’m not a fan of chemical treatments.  The cost also adds up quickly, especially on long hikes.  The only real benefit of choosing tablets is they are much lighter than other systes. #### **Pros:** - **One of few chemical tabs which treats Crypto** - **Least bad-taste of any water tablets** #### **Cons:** - **Expensive per liter treated** --- ### 8. SteriPEN Ultra ![SteriPEN Ultra](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/steripen-ultra-copy.jpg "steripen ultra copy - Mom Goes Camping") **Best For:** A cheap way of treating viruses after filtering - - **Type:** UV purifier - **Weight:** 5oz - **Time:** 1 liter/90 seconds - **Price per liter filtered:** $0.01 - **Treats:** Bacteria, protozoa, viruses - **Buy At:** [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NK9948M/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00NK9948M&linkId=c114e7d6643d809ffa37335947e43e12) --- #### Review: The SteriPEN Ultra is a UV light purifier; it has a wand which you stick in the water.  When activated, the wand shoots UV light into the water, effectively killing bacteria, protozoa, and viruses.  The actual SteriPEN is a bit pricy but it lasts for 8,000 liters of water.  This breaks down to around just $0.01 per liter treated. The downside with UV light purifiers is they won’t kill larger pathogens like worm eggs.  Nor will they remove sediment.  If the water is murky, the UV light won’t be able to reach pathogens and the treatment isn’t as effective.  So, SteriPEN is only effective if the water is already clear or you pre-filter it. Another downside to consider is the SteriPEN Ultra requires batteries which have to be recharged fairly frequently.  Bring a [lightweight power bank ](https://momgoescamping.com/best-backpacking-power-banks/)or a [portable solar charger](https://momgoescamping.com/best-portable-solar-chargers/) if on longer trips! I wouldn’t recommend using the SteriPEN Ultra by itself in the backcountry.  However, if you are worried about viruses, it can be used in combination with the Sawyer Mini or another filter for effectively killing all pathogens in water. #### **Pros:** - **Cheap way of treating viruses** - **Lightweight** - **Easy and fast to use** #### **Cons:** - **Requires batteries** - **Doesn’t work on murky water** --- ## Backpacking Water Filter vs. Purifier Most backpacking water filters can only remove larger pathogens like bacteria, protozoa, and worm eggs.  By contrast, a *purifier* is also able to treat viruses. Viruses are very small in size.  For a water filter to remove viruses effectively, it must have an absolute pore size of 0.02 microns or less.  The MSR Guardian is one of the few filters which fall into this category. ## Understanding What You Need to Treat in Water Every so often in the backpacking community, a debate occurs about whether you can drink water directly from a stream or river without treating it.  Inevitably someone will argue that *they’ve been drinking untreated water for years and been “fine.”* Yes, clear water from a fast-moving mountain stream, especially near the source, *might* be safe to drink.  But even clean-looking water can be contaminated with microorganisms from sources like animal waste.   This is why organizations like the [Water Research Network](https://water-research.net/index.php/reports/giardia-crytosporidium-and-waterborne-disease), [National Parks Service](https://www.nps.gov/articles/2wayspurifywater.htm), and [biologists](https://www.lycoming.edu/cwi/pdfs/wastewaterBiology.pdf) all warn against drinking water directly from the source.  It must be treated first! **Depending on where you are going backpacking though, you might not need to treat the water for everything.  Here’s what contaminants are found in water and when they are a concern.** \[table id=21 /\] ### Bacteria - **Where Found:** Backcountry water (streams, lakes, rivers, etc.), well water, tap water from underdeveloped countries - **Treated with:** Boiling, filtering, UV light, chemical treatments - **Examples:** Coli, salmonella, dysentery Bacteria is a huge problem in tap water of underdeveloped countries.  It’s also ever-present in the wilderness.  Yes, bacteria is found even in clean-looking backcountry water! In small amounts, this bacteria might not do you any harm (which is why some hikers drink from streams without problem).  However, it also doesn’t take much bacteria to give you a massive GI infection – especially when your immune system goes to hell from fatigue. The good news is that bacteria in water is easy to treat.  The smallest bacteria are around 0.2 microns in size.  Any filter with an absolute rating smaller than this will effectively filter out bacteria.  UV light will deactivate bacteria. Chemical treatments using iodine or chlorine are generally very effective at killing bacteria, though [some bacteria are developing resistance](https://www.nature.com/news/2011/110407/full/news.2011.218.html). According to the [EPA guidelines](https://www.epa.gov/ground-water-and-drinking-water/emergency-disinfection-drinking-water), you can also kill bacteria by keeping it at a rolling boil for at least one minute (3 minutes at elevations above 5,000 feet). Since boiling also kills other types of pathogens in water, you don’t need to treat your water used for meals if you let it stay at a rolling boil for this long. ### Protozoa - **Where Found:** Backcountry water (streams, lakes, rivers, etc.), well water, tap water from underdeveloped countries - **Treated with:** Boiling, filtering, UV light, chemical treatments\* - **Examples:** Giardia, *Cryptosporidium* Protozoa are single-celled organisms.  It’s their cysts that we come in contact with and the cysts then “hatch” once inside our bodies. Many are parasitic in nature and multiply inside their human hosts.  It’s scarily easy to get infected with protozoa.  Drinking water contaminated with human feces is the most common source.  However, you could get infected simply by shaking hands with someone who didn’t do a good job washing after going to the bathroom (and what backpacker really washes their hands properly on the trail?). Because of how easy it is to get infected, backpackers often get knocked down by protozoa infections.  Giardia is the most infamous, but there are plenty of others. Protozoa tend to be very large – about 10 to 30 microns in size ([source](https://www.austincc.edu/ddingley/MLAB1331/LectureGuide/IntProt)) – so are easily removed with a backpacking water filter.  They can also be killed by boiling.  UV light treatment is mostly effective with one independent study finding that 99.54% of protozoa were deactivated by the SteriPEN. Chemical treatments aren’t as effective in treating protozoa cysts though.  Iodine treatments seem to be more effective than chlorine.  The infamous Cryptosporidium is especially resistant to chemical treatment.  Many water treatment drops and tablets won’t treat Cryptosporidium at all!  The tablets which do treat Crypto tend to be very pricy. ### Parasitic Helminthes - **Where Found:** Backcountry water (streams, lakes, rivers, etc.), well water, tap water from underdeveloped countries - **Treated with:** Boiling, filtering - **Examples:** tapeworms, flatworms Here’s a new word to throw around at basecamp!  Helminths are larger, multicellular organisms which are often visible to the naked eye in their adult form.  The most infamous ones are cestodes (tapeworms) and platyhelminths (flatworms). Backpackers don’t talk about helminthes much.  We take it for granted tapeworms are actually still a big issue in some places.  Isle Royale, in Michigan for example, is notorious for having tapeworms. I’ve even seen these in a crystal-clear mountain stream at 2,500 meters!  It just goes to show elevation doesn’t necessarily make water safer to drink.   People who don’t pick up their [dog crap while hiking](https://www.straight.com/life/462706/dog-droppings-pose-health-risk) are also contributing to outbreaks of tapeworms in places they didn’t use to be found. Generally, it’s not the adult helminth worms that we are worried about; it’s their eggs.  Luckily, the eggs are large and can be removed with a good backpacking water filter.  Boiling will also kill the eggs. **UV light and chemical treatments will *not* treat helminth eggs**! The good news is that tapeworms and other helminths won’t give you terrible diarrhea right away (or at all). You can happily continue your hike without even realizing that you’ve got a parasite living in your gut.  Some of these worms might even be *[good for our immune system](https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/the-worms-within/)*. But some of those worms can do serious damage – so filter or boil your water! If you insist on using chemical or UV treatment, then go get a stool sample analysis after your finish your hike!!! ### Viruses - **Where Found:** Some backcountry water, well water, tap water in underdeveloped countries - **Treated with:** Boiling, filtering, UV light, chemical treatments - **Examples:** Hepatitis, adenovirus, norovirus, rotavirus Viruses \*generally\* aren’t an issue when you backpacking in the *remote* wilderness.  The reason for this is that viruses don’t survive well in water.  Further, UV light from the sun will usually kill what active viruses are in the water. However, viral infections from water are becoming much more common even in backcountry.  Take the [norovirus outbreaks on the Appalachian Trail](https://mountaincrossingsatneelgap.wordpress.com/2018/03/14/norovirus/). As increasingly more people take up backpacking, there’s a higher chance of viruses from feces getting into water sources.   A virus can result in terrible GI symptoms within 12 hours of infection.  And once dozens of hikers have diarrhea on the trail, you can bet the virus is only going to spread further! If you are going somewhere which is truly remote, you probably don’t need to worry about viruses; a basic water filter will do.  But, anywhere that is highly-populated could have viruses in the water sources. Viruses average 0.03 microns in size (some are much smaller). To remove viruses with a filter, the [CDC recommends](https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/yellowbook/2020/preparing-international-travelers/water-disinfection#table208) using a filter with an absolute pore rating of 0.01.  Alternatively, you can first treat the water with a standard backpacking filter (which will remove bacteria, protozoa, and eggs) and then use UV light or chemical tablets/drops to kill any viruses. ### Chemicals - **Where Found:** Agricultural areas, mining areas, heavily-populated areas - **Treated with:** Activated carbon - **Examples:** Benzene, pesticides, chlorine Chemicals are by far the hardest contaminate to treat in water.  The good news is that you probably don’t have to worry about chemicals when you are backpacking – especially in remote areas or high elevations.  Another good thing is chemicals won’t cause you immediate harm.  Sure, your risk of getting cancer 20 years down the road might increase, but you won’t have to cut your hike short because of diarrhea. Only activated carbon can remove chemicals from water.  It works by absorbing the chemicals.  The dirtier the water, the faster the cartridge will get “filled up” and need to be replaced.  After it’s filled up, the cartridge will actually start leaching chemicals back into the water as  you treat it!  So, you’ll need to pay careful attention to how much water you’ve treated and bring along replacement cartridges on longer trips. ## Types of Backpacking Water Treatment Systems All backpacking water treatment systems can be broken down into 4 types: filters, activated carbon filters, UV purifiers, and chemical treatments.  You can also treat water by boiling it. Bear in mind that none of these methods of treating water is perfect.  If you are dealing with water that might have viruses and/or chemicals in it, you’ll likely need to use *two* methods to adequately purify the water. \[table id=20 /\] ### Filters A water filter acts like a sieve; it allows water to flow through but catches pathogens.  Most backpacking water filters have absolute micron ratings.  This is a measurement of their largest holes.  For a filter to catch all bacteria (as well as large organisms like protozoa and worm eggs), it must have a rating of 0.2 microns or less. Some newer backpacking water filters have ratings of 0.02 microns. Note the decimal point: This is 10x smaller than a standard filter!  These filters can also remove most viruses.  However, the smaller pore size means they have very slow flow rates and tend to clog easily.  The exception is advanced filters like the MSR Guardian which has a self-cleaning mechanism as you pump. **Backpacking water filters can further be divided into types by how they are used.** - **Pump:** These have hand-operated pumps. They tend to be easier to use and have faster flow rates. - **Squeeze:** Water goes into a bottle or bag attached to the filter. You then squeeze to force water through the filter.  It’s an annoying, time-consuming process. - **Straw:** These seem cool but are impractical in real-life use. **Read why I hate straw filters here**. - **Bottle:** The filter is set into bottle. Dirty water goes into the bottle and you suck it through a straw. - **Push:** The GRAYL is a bottle filter. However, you push down on the filter to fill the bottle with water instead of having to suck it out. ### Activated Carbon Activated carbon cartridges are sometimes found in water filters.  Instead of catching contaminants like a sieve, they *absorb* the contaminants.  This is the only method for removing chemicals from water.  The cartridges tend to fill up quickly and need frequent replacement, so activated carbon filters are expensive over the long run.  It’s your only choice in agricultural, mining, or other contaminated areas. ### UV Purifiers These shoot a beam of UV light into the water to kill bacteria, protozoa, and viruses.  They are easy to use and brands like SteriPEN have been tested for reliability.  The downside is UV purifiers rely on batteries, can break, and aren’t effective in treating larger organisms.  They are still popular for travel and as a way of killing viruses after filtering. ### Chemicals Tablets/Drops Usually made of iodine or chlorine, chemicals can be used to treat many organisms in water.  However, they aren’t the most effective method.  Many chemical treatments won’t kill Cryptosporidium nor larger organisms.  You also have to wait a long time until the chemicals work. Despite this, chemical water treatments remain popular because they are so lightweight.   Note that if you are [backpacking while pregnant](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-while-pregnant/) the CDC advises against using iodine tablets as they can cause harm. **What water treatment method do you use when backpacking? Let us know in the comments section below!** --- Additional sources for this article: <https://www.watertechonline.com/wastewater/article/15545721/bacteria-and-viruses-commonly-found-in-drinking-water> <https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2016/03/22/471408630/what-makes-water-unsafe-not-the-color-taste-or-smell-worldwaterday> <https://interestingengineering.com/dirty-clean-how-water-treatment-plant-works> <https://greece.greekreporter.com/2016/05/28/is-it-safe-to-drink-tap-water-in-greece/> <https://www.intechopen.com/books/the-relevance-of-hygiene-to-health-in-developing-countries/drinking-water-treatment-and-challenges-in-developing-countries> Image credit: “[Pumping water from a reliable source](https://www.flickr.com/photos/chriswaits/7434472720/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [waitscm](https://www.flickr.com/people/chriswaits/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** Sawyer Mini, water filter --- ### [How to Divide Up Gear on a Couple’s Backpacking Trip](https://momgoescamping.com/divide-up-gear-couples-backpacking/) **Published:** March 10, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Want to go on an overnight backpacking trip with your boyfriend or girlfriend or spouse?  In addition to figuring out *what* gear you’ll bring, you also need to figure out how to divide up the gear between packs.  It is actually trickier than it seems. ## **Should men carry more of the gear because they are “stronger”?**  **Or is it fairer to share the gear weight equally?** As a woman who goes backpacking often, I can tell you how offensive it is when men assume I am “weak”.  I’ve even had men offer to carry my pack several times while on the trail!  This might have to do with the fact that I live in the Balkans and there’s almost zero backpacking culture here, nevertheless *solo female* backpackers. I know the men are trying to be helpful and chivalry is pretty nice in some situations. And admittedly I once did let a man carry my pack for several miles – I was [backpacking pregnant](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-while-pregnant/) and was grateful when the massively-strong mountain guy took my pack from me. But still.  **It’s annoying and insulting when a guy assumes I can’t carry my own pack.**   As another female backpacker[ on Reddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/6hbdrg/dont_ruin_a_trip_for_everyone_because_you_tried/) pointed out, it sucks that there’s this impression that women can’t do it without any help. On the flip side though, I know men are generally stronger than women.  Of course there are exceptions (Serena Williams, anyone?).   However, I’m no Serena.  I’m a petite 5’1” and 110lbs.  **It would be ridiculous to divide up gear weight equally between a 110lb woman and 200lb man!** ## How to Share the Weight Fairly ### Option 1: Divide Gear Based on Bodyweight One good solution to this “men are stronger” issue is to: Divide gear proportionally based on bodyweight. This ends up being fair without being sexist. For example: - The average weight for a healthy 30 year old woman is 127lbs. For men, it’s 147lbs.\* - If they had a total of 50lbs of gear, using [proportional division](https://www.cimt.org.uk/projects/mepres/book8/bk8i7/bk8_7i3.htm) we could calculate that the woman gets 23lbs and the man gets 27lbs. - This puts both the man and woman below the target of carrying no more than 20% of their bodyweight. Note: You can also use this method to divide up food. The larger person gets a larger meal serving. 🙂 ### 2. The Fitter Partner Carriers More The bodyweight proportion method might not be the best solution for all couples.  Weight also doesn’t correlate with physical fitness.  I’d really hate it if an overweight person got turned off of backpacking because their pack was too heavy to enjoy it.  Better to let the more experienced, physically-fit backpackers carry the bulk of the weight. ### 3. The Faster Partner Carriers More If you are a fast hiker, you might be happy to carry more weight if it means your hiking partner will speed up. It sure beats having to wait around for them to catch up! ### 4. One Partner Carries the Food and Consumables Some couples find other ways of dividing up the gear weight fairly.  For example, one Backpacking Light forum member [said](https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/101396/) she and her partner each carry their own personal stuff.  She carries the food and he carries the tent and cookset.  Her pack actually starts out heavier but ends up lighter by the end of the trip. ### 5. Divide Gear by Task If one person is in charge of setting up the tent when arriving at camp, that person should carry the tent.  If the other person’s job is to get dinner started, that person should carry the food, stove, and mess kit. ## Eliminate Redundancy – but Make Sure Each Person Has Essentials One of the benefits of hiking with a partner is you can share gear and your packs end up lighter.  For example, there’s no reason for both of you to bring a stove, cook pot, and bear canister. You’ll probably be sharing a tent too.  \*I’d advise against sharing a sleeping bag though.  Double-wide sleeping bags are never as much fun as they sound! 🙂 However, don’t go so overboard with sharing that one of you might end up without crucial items.  The two of you could get separated.  If that happened and only one of you was carrying the map, the other person could end up in some serious trouble.   Please read this post about **[items to always have with you while on a hike](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-packing-list/).** --- Image credit:”[Absaroka-Beartooth Wilderness, Goose Lak](https://www.flickr.com/photos/40306044@N04/3706658933/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [wilderness.webmaster](https://www.flickr.com/people/40306044@N04/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Backpacking --- ### [Bear Canister vs. Ursack for Backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/bear-canister-vs-ursack/) **Published:** March 5, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** As backpacking and camping have become more popular, it’s created a serious problem for bears: [food conditioning](https://www.nps.gov/yell/learn/habituated-grizzly-bears.htm).  This is what happens when bears learn to seek out humans for their food. The solution – and required in many parks – is to use an IGBC-certified bear-resistant container.  The options are bear canisters or Ursack.  Here’s how they compare. ## Bear Canister vs. Ursack for Protecting Your Food Neither bear canisters or Ursack are completely bear-proof.  If a bear is determined enough, it will be able to get to your food!  Want evidence?  See this image of a [destroyed bear canister](https://imgur.com/a/KrTcBua) and this image of a [destroyed Ursack](https://imgur.com/a/YwKR4bJ). However, of the two, **bear canisters generally are better than Ursack for protecting food**.  The canisters are designed so they are too big for a bear to chew on or carry off. Lots of backpackers will put their clean cook pot on top of the canister as an “alarm” if an animal starts messing with the canister.  Then they can go outside and scare the bear away (I honestly wouldn’t have the nerve to do that though – I’d be one of those people listening as the bear tossed the canister around for hours trying to get in). ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/alarm-on-bearvault.jpg "alarm on bearvault - Mom Goes Camping")*Clean pots as an alarm on top of bear canisters* By contrast, **food can also be easily crushed in an Ursack**. The bag itself might not rip, but the food could squeeze out like toothpaste.  The crushed food might become inedible, especially if covered with bacteria-rick bear slobber.  There are plenty of [videos of bears chewing away at Ursacks](https://youtu.be/F1sZZUWX-QA).  The Ursack aluminum liner supposedly helps prevent this, but that adds weight to the setup. Just note bear canisters really need to be kept somewhere safe.  There is a [famous story of a smart bear](https://www.outsideonline.com/2013656/yosemite-bears-keep-getting-smarter) getting into canisters in Snow Creek camp in Yosemite. She learned to roll the canisters over to a ledge, push the over so the canister would explode, and then scramble down to eat the contents.  Ideally keep the canister in a depression and away from thick vegetation so you can find it in the morning. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/storage-containers.jpg "storage containers - Mom Goes Camping")*If you have the option of using a food box USE IT* ## Canisters vs. Ursack for Protecting Bears Note I wrote *protecting bears*.  A lot of people don’t realize **the point of bear-resistant containers isn’t to keep your food safe: it’s to keep bears wild.** The idea is the bear container will make it significantly harder for the bear to get at the human food.  The bear will eventually get bored trying to get at your human food and instead go eat some berries or ant eggs (as they are meant to do).  Ultimately, more bears are kept safe by not getting a “reward” for heading into camp. **Bear canisters are much more effective than Ursack at keeping bears from getting a food reward.** For example, the “experienced” bears at popular places like Yosemite already know they can’t get into canisters.  They might paw at a canister to see if someone forgot to close it (which happens fairly frequently), but then will leave it alone.  It’s the younger, less-experienced bears which try to chew through canisters. Ursack still does a pretty good job of keeping the food away from bears.  But the bear might get a taste for food as it slobbers on the bag, especially if it punctures a pouch of tuna or something else liquid and the food leaks out. Thus, some backpackers suggest the point of an Ursack isn’t to keep the food safe but to “buy you time” so you can go out and chase the bear away. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/ursack-bite-marks.jpg "ursack bite marks - Mom Goes Camping")*Bear teeth marks on an Ursack* ## Weight of Ursack vs. Bear Canister The reason why Ursack is getting so popular is because it is a lot lighter than a bear canister. Ursack is also a lot easier to pack than a bear canister. It won’t dig into your back like a canister and is flexible.  (Tip: Carry a bear canister sideways up high on your pack or under the lid and it won’t dig into your back so much.) **Here’s how Ursack and bear canisters compare.  All of these are IGBC certified.** \[table id=24 /\] Because of the weight/packable factor, a lot of backpackers prefer Ursack.  This causes a lot of debate since canisters do a lot better job of keeping food away from bears (and remember the point is to keep bears wild, not keep your food safe!). However, one good pro-Ursack argument I read was this: > *In places where canisters aren’t required, many choose to hang their food since it’s lighter than using a bear canister.   Hanging is very difficult to do right and bears often get at the food.  Ultimately, it’s better to get everyone using an Ursack than have people improperly hang food.* ## IGBC Certification The International Grizzly Bear Committee tests and certifies containers as bear-resistant.  You can find the latest list of approved products [here](http://igbconline.org/bear-resistant-products/). The Ursack Major and Allmity are IGBC-certified.  BearVault, Garcia, Lighter1 Big Daddy, and most other popular bear canisters are also certified. ## Approval Map for Ursack vs. Bear Canisters Just because Ursack is IGBC certified, it doesn’t mean it is approved for use everywhere. Likewise, not all IGBC-certified canisters are approved everywhere.  Make sure you check the regulations of where you are going. In places where bear-resistant containers are required, it’s much more likely for a canister to be approved than Ursack.  So, if you can only afford one bear proof container, it’s best to go with a container. In the map below, you can see where Ursack is approved.  Green marks fully approved, Yellow marks approved when used with aluminum liner, and Red marks not approved. See the full map [here](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0270/4146/4395/files/Ursack_Map_final-01_2048x2048.png?v=1574723126). ![Ursack approval map](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/ursack-approval-copy.jpg "ursack approval copy - Mom Goes Camping") ## What about Hanging Food? Hanging food in a bear bag used to be the norm.  However, hanging food isn’t recommended anymore.  Why? - It’s very difficult to [hang a bear bag properly](https://momgoescamping.com/hang-food-bag/) - Bears are smart.  Since most people are doing a poor job of hanging food, they can easily climb to get the food bag or chew through the rope. - Hanging damages trees and branches. - Convenience.  Backpackers often don’t have time to hang a bear bag, especially when they arrive to camp late. It’s easier to just leave food out in a bear canister.  You can even leave the food out while on a day hike. I still hang a food bag when camping or backpacking.  However, it’s not for bears.  It’s to keep critters (mice, rabbits, foxes…) and stray dogs away from my food.   In this case, I don’t have to hang the food bag very high — something my girly throwing arms are actually able to do. ## The Verdict? - **In areas where bears are likely to be a problem,** like Lake Tahoe and Yosemite, use a bear canister. Even if it isn’t required, still use a bear canister. Take the extra precaution of lining it with an odor-proof bag. - **In areas where bears *might* be a problem:** Still use a bear canister. You could save a bear’s life by not teaching it food conditioning. Only use an Ursack if you really can’t carry the weight. - **In areas without bears:** Then hang your food as protection against critters. If the area is really high-traffic (like in the Grand Canyon where chipmunks will wreak havoc on your food!), then hang a critter-proof Ursack. **Do you use a bear canister or Ursack? Tell us your experience with them in the comments below.** --- ###### Image credits: “[Ursack bite marks in Mori’s sack](https://www.flickr.com/photos/rasudduth/3543934719/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Rebecca Sudduth](https://www.flickr.com/people/rasudduth/) “[Bear canisters](https://www.flickr.com/photos/brettlider/3816980898/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [Brett L.](https://www.flickr.com/people/brettlider/) “[PCT hikers bear canisters at Horseshoe M](https://www.flickr.com/photos/rasudduth/3652834140/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Rebecca Sudduth](https://www.flickr.com/people/rasudduth/) ###### **Resources:** <https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/60464/> <https://andrewskurka.com/tutorial-food-storage-protection-methods-bears-rodents/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/fcp6mv/ursack_or_bear_vault_on_tahoe_rim_trail/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/8ugtbv/food_storage_options_ursack_vs_bv450_vs_hanging/> ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** bears --- ### [Camping While Pregnant: 7 Tips to Make It Easier](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-pregnant-tips/) **Published:** May 14, 2018 **Author:** Diane **Content:** *I went wild camping while pregnant. Unfortunately, that [trip didn’t go so well](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-while-pregnant/) and I didn’t get to go again because of my severe hyperemesis gravidarum.   But I’m not the only pregnant woman to go camping.  Here’s a guest post with tips on how to make camping easier while pregnant.* Never one to let a little thing like being pregnant stop me, I’ve done everything from hiking to backpacking while growing a baby, although I will admit, it has not always been easy.  I’ve discovered some ways to make camping a whole lot easier while pregnant. ## 1. Don’t Go Alone Normally I’d say that there is nothing wrong with a [woman camping or hiking alone](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-solo/).  But, even if your pregnancy is going really smoothly, you shouldn’t put yourself in a situation where you are all alone in the wilderness.  What if you start feeling faint? What if a medical problems sudden occurs?  It will make your life easier to bring a (reliable) friend along with you. ## 2.  Have a Bathroom Plan Although you might usually be the type of camper who likes to rough it in the woods, when you are carrying a baby who is pressing on your bladder, it is useful to be near decent facilities. It is also vital to stay hydrated while pregnant to keep healthy and ease swollen ankles,  so you will be glad of a camping spot near the toilets, especially for those middle of the night trips to the restroom! If you are wild camping somewhere without a bathroom, make sure that you can still squat.  If not, you might want to get a solution for peeing while standing up, such as a [Go Girl](https://amzn.to/2KY2pYA). [![When you can't squat, this makes it possible to pee while standing up](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/go-girl.jpg "go girl - Mom Goes Camping")](https://amzn.to/2KY2pYA)When you cant squat this makes it possible to pee while standing up ## 3. Invest in a Good Camp Bed Even the most hardened of campers will agree that sleeping on the floor isn’t a whole load of fun. Add to that a wriggling baby bump and pregnancy insomnia, and it just makes sense to treat yourself to an air mattress or a camp bed. These can be relatively cheap, but be sure to get something super light, as you don’t want to give yourself extra weight to carry. ## 4. Look for Shade [When you are pregnant, you are more likely to burn](http://www.medic8.com/healthguide/pregnancy-birth/pregnancy/tanning/and-sunbathing.html), so keep this in mind when you are camping! Avoid going on walks in the middle of the day when the sun is at its highest, and try to sit in the shade where possible. Of course, keep applying plenty of that sunblock too. ![camping in the shade](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/light-forest-trees-morning.jpg "camping in the shade - Mom Goes Camping") ## 5. Check Your Cooking It is so important when pregnant to [make sure that all food, especially meat is cooked correctly](http://www.holidaysafe.co.uk/pregnancy-travel-insurance/guide/general-health) to avoid food poisoning. When you are cooking on the camping stove, it is better to overcook than undercook, so be sure to check all your food to ensure that it is well done. It can be easy to forget these rules when you are away from home, but it is just as important to keep up your safe eating while you are camping. Likewise, make sure you will actually be able to eat whatever food you bring.  If you are like some who get really sick while pregnant, you might not be able to stomach anything that you brought. ## 6. Be Extra Cautious about Water You should always filter backcountry water to avoid risk of ailments like giardia.  While pregnant, you should be extra cautious.  Make sure you are even washing your dishes with filtered water and aren’t letting any untreated water touch the caps of your water bottles.   Diarrhea is never fun, but especially not while you are pregnant! The [Sawyer Mini](https://momgoescamping.com/sawyer-mini-water-filter-review/) is great for treating water. ## 7. Take It Easy As much as it is important not to let being pregnant stop you from doing things, that’s not to say that you have to go full steam and keep up with everyone in the same way that you did before you got pregnant. Remember, you are growing a baby and that can be exhausting! Be sure you don’t put too much in your backpack and are [wearing your pack correctly](https://momgoescamping.com/wear-backpack-pregnant/). Make time to rest and schedule in naps and make sure you don’t push yourself too hard. Camping while pregnant isn’t easy, but it is amazing to be able to enjoy your favorite adventures with a baby on board! You may have to make some adaptations but it will be worth it to make memories. **Do you have any more tips for camping whilst pregnant? Let me know in the comments!** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** pregnant --- ### [Why Wear Two Pairs of Socks to Prevent Blisters Hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/wear-two-pairs-socks-prevent-blisters-hiking/) **Published:** June 20, 2018 **Author:** Diane **Content:** When it comes to preventing blisters while hiking, shoes get the most attention.  However, if you don’t have the right socks, you’ll still get blisters.  Many experienced hikers wear two pairs of socks to prevent blisters. ## What Causes Blisters? If you want to prevent blisters, you’ve got to know what causes them in the first place. The type of blisters you get hiking (or doing other sports) are *friction blisters*. [As the US Military explains](https://www.army.mil/article/154855/beware_the_blister_a_minor_injury_that_can_slow_you_down_with_serious_pain), > “An object is repeatedly moved across the skin with enough force to cause the layers of skin to release heat.  The heat causes redness and a separation (or cleft) between the outermost layer of the skin and the rest of the skin layers. The cleft fills with fluid causing a raised area on the skin.” Wet, sweaty feet just make the problem worse.  The moisture weakens the skin, making it more prone to injury. ## The Two-Pair Sock System for Hiking Experienced hikers will swear by this system: - **A thin inner sock.** Aka *sock liner,* preferably made from silk, nylon, polyester, or wool. - **A thicker outer sock.** This sock should be wool. Smartwool and Merino wool are the best options. ### How Does this Prevent Blisters? No system can completely prevent blisters.  However, wearing two socks can help in three ways: 1. **Reduces friciton:** The inner sock reduces friction with your foot.  There is still friction occurring – it is just between the two pairs of socks and not your skin and the sock. 2. **Less moisture:** The inner sock also helps wick away moisture from the foot.  Less moisture means that your skin is less prone to damage. The second outer-layer sock also absorbs some moisture. 3. **Cushioning:** The second sock provides some cushioning.  Some really good hiking socks have padding in areas prone to blisters. This duo of sock liner + wool sock is truly amazing for preventing blisters.   It is better than just wearing one pair of breathable socks (such as Gore-Tex hiking socks).  Even high-tech socks can’t wick away as much moisture as wearing two socks. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/15060020986_cffa23fae5_z.jpg "sock liners with dress shoes - Mom Goes Camping")*The two sock system even works with dress shoes and other uncomfortable shoes too* ## Why Some People Hate the Two Sock System The caveat with wearing two socks is that it can make your feet hotter.  Heat is one of the elements which makes your feet vulnerable to blisters. Another annoyance is that liner socks can make your boots fit too tightly.  A tight fit means that you will be even more prone to blisters.  If you want to use this system, you’ll probably need new hiking boots which are sized up. ## How to Choose Sock Liners A lot of major hiking companies make their own brand of sock liners.   Some of the most popular brands are Wigwam, Fox River, SmartWool, Bridgedale, and Injinji (which have toes). ### Most Important Is the Fit Is the fit! If the sock liners are too big, your foot will slide around in them, creating friction and blisters.  Wrinkles in the socks will also cause blisters. Be sure you pay attention to the sizing of the liner socks. Most are sized as S, M, or L – *not* by shoe size.  If your shoe size falls between S/M or M/L, go with the smaller size.  It’s better to have them fit a bit tight than have them wrinkly. ### Sock Liner Material: There are three main options for sock liner material: - **Silk:** I personally like silk sock liners best. They are comfortable, easy to slide on your feet, and do a great job of reducing friction.  The downside is that they aren’t always very durable. Some brands aren’t very breathable either, so not suited for warm weather. Silk sock liners for hiking are almost always with a synthetic blend. - **Synthetic:** These are very durable and can do a great job of reducing friction. They aren’t always very breathable though, especially the cheap synthetic sock liners. Some brands have their own space-age synthetics with special features for wicking away moisture. - **Wool:** Thin wool sock liners are good for warm weather hiking. They are breathable and stay dry.  Wool sock liners tend to be pricier though, and might be too thick to wear comfortably in your boots. Regardless of the material, good sock liners will have a tight weave.  You won’t be able to pull fibers off of them easily. ### Length: It should be obvious, but remember to consider the length of the sock liners. They should be appropriate for the type of shoes or boots you are wearing.  Plus, they need to match the length of the outer sock. Remember: You can wear sock liners that are longer than your outer sock, but can’t wear sock liners shorter than the outer sock.  **When in doubt, go with longer sock liners.** ### Best Hiking Sock Liners for Preventing Blisters - [Wigwam Coolmax liner socks](https://amzn.to/3yqhWxH) - [**Fox River Wick Dry Alturas Ultra lightweight Liner Socks**](https://amzn.to/2Ms6JQX) - [SmartWool Zero liner socks](https://amzn.to/4bLBYkK) - **[Injinji Liner Crew Toesocks](https://amzn.to/2JFm6HJ)** - **[Terramar Thermasilk Sock Liners](https://amzn.to/2JDZIys)** ### Be Prepared to Try Out Many Liner Socks Keep in mind that every hiker seems to have his or her own favorite sock liner.  Some people swear by one brand whereas others hate it.  You might have to try out a few different types of sock liners before you find your favorite.  Luckily, sock liners aren’t too expensive. --- Resources: <https://melmagazine.com/is-there-any-point-to-wearing-two-pairs-of-socks-7df2168444dd> <https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-advantages-and-disadvantages-of-wearing-two-pairs-of-socks-when-hiking> <https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/90845/> [https://patient.info/health/foot-blisters ](https://patient.info/health/foot-blisters) Image credits: “I’m still waiting for my dress sock spon” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by Josh Mishell, “[Gelato Socks](https://www.flickr.com/photos/113866088@N08/14418260229/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [sashawerner](https://www.flickr.com/people/113866088@N08/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking **Tags:** blisters, feet, socks --- ### [Camping Breakfast Recipes that Kids Will Love](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-breakfast-recipes/) **Published:** November 14, 2017 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Cooking while camping can be a great challenge or a great joy – just like cooking with your kids. Mealtimes can mean pure chaos, with everything from hangry temper tantrums, major messes, and picky eaters. But with the right [stove](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-stoves-guide/), cook set, ingredients, and attitudes, you can turn your mornings at the campsite from anxious powder kegs to fun, delicious activities for the whole family. This list gives you five recipes to try out on your next camping trip that will save you time, money, and, hopefully, some of the mealtime chaos. Who says smores and hotdogs get all the fun? ## 1. Pancakes ![cooking pancakes while camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/2.jpg "2 - Mom Goes Camping") Our first breakfast recipe is the crowning jewel of breakfast items. Flapjacks, hotcakes, pancakes, silver dollars, whatever you call ‘em – kids and adults alike love ‘em, and they’re surprisingly easy to make camping! Here’s what you need: - 1 ½ cups flour - 1 ¼ tbsp. baking powder - 1 tbsp. granulated sugar - ½ tsp. salt - 3 tbsp. butter - 1 ½ cups milk (or equivalent dry milk powder to mix with water) - 1 egg - Large mason jar - Skillet Before you leave, combine the dry ingredients in a bag. When you’re ready to cook, melt the butter over the campfire, and combine it in the clean jar with the milk and egg. Then add the dry ingredients and shake for about 2-3 minutes – this is definitely a kid job. Once your batter is mixed (but still a little lumpy), heat your skillet on the campfire and add the batter. Flip the pancakes once one side bubbled. Serve with lots of maple syrup and any other desired toppings. ## 2. Loaded Oatmeal ![backpacking oatmeal](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/backpacking-oatmeal.jpg "backpacking oatmeal - Mom Goes Camping") Oatmeal is the most famous (or infamous) camping meal. Lightweight, compactible, and easy-to-prepare, there’s really nothing that it can’t do – besides please most kids. Luckily, oatmeal doesn’t have to be the boring, bland, and tasteless glop that it’s made up to be. To make oatmeal awesome, give your kids a chance to make it their own. Bring bowls and lay out some options so that kids can feel empowered to make their own choices. Often, kids feel emboldened to try new things when in a new environment – and they might just find something they like! Some healthier options include: - Dried fruit (toasted coconut, mangoes, blueberries, raisins, cranberries, papaya) - Fresh fruit (strawberries, bananas, apples, raspberries) - Nuts (almonds, pecans, cashews, peanuts) Rolled oats are super nutritious and contain a ton of fiber, as well as valuable vitamins and minerals like manganese, B vitamins, and zinc, so let your kids have a little fun with the toppings. Some less-nutritious-but-very-delicious toppings include: - Maple or berry syrup - Fruit jams or preserves - Chocolate chips - Mini marshmallows If you’re feeling especially creative, work up games to describe the different things they try. ## 3.  Toad in the Hole ![campfire toad in the hole](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/3.jpg "3 - Mom Goes Camping") This recipe is a version of a British casserole that combines savory sausage in a pancake-y batter that’s sure to fill up every hungry camper in your family. Here’s what you need: - ½ cup fine cornmeal - ½ cup flour - 1 tbsp. granulated sugar - ¾ tsp. salt - ½ tsp. baking powder - 1 cup milk - 2 eggs - 2 tbsp. butter - 12 ounces breakfast sausage (about 14 small links) - 3 tbsp. maple syrup - Skillet - Aluminum foil Before you go, combine the cornmeal, flour, sugar, salt, baking powder, eggs, and milk and save in a sealed container in your cooler. When you’re ready to cook, heat your skillet and melt your butter. Cook the sausages and set aside. Mix up the batter, then pour into the hot skillet. Place the sausages on top of the batter, drizzle with syrup, and cover with foil until cooked fully – about 15-20 minutes. Then slice up and serve! This hearty breakfast will provide serious fuel for all-day fun. ## 4. Eggs and Bacon (In a Bag) Although there are always new advances in [camping cookware](http://backpackingmastery.com/top-picks/best-camping-cookware.html) which make it lighter, more compact, and easier to use, sometimes you just want to skip it altogether. These next to recipes take a more traditional approach to camp cooking by using simpler, and less conventional, means to get things done. Eggs and bacon are an American classic breakfast, and there’s nothing more exciting then cooking them over an open flame under the open sky. Enter the paper bag method. You might think that paper bags and fire don’t mix, and generally you would be right, but with the fatty nature of bacon, this technique manages to pull it off. Here’s how it’s done: 1. Layer strips of bacon in the bottom of your brown paper sandwich bag 2. Crack your egg into the bag, on top of the bacon strips 3. Fold the top of the bag over a few times, then poke a skewer or tough stick through it 4. Hold the bag over the fire (not in it) until the bacon fat melts and the egg cooks This technique may take a little practice (your kids will think it’s a lot of fun when the bag catches on fire, trust us), so make sure to have a few extra eggs and slices of bacon handy. But the reward of eating your breakfast from a bag after cooking it this way is novel and fun – and is sure to entertain plenty. ## 5. Cinnamon Rolls, Campfire Style ![campfire cinnamon rolls](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/1.jpg "1 - Mom Goes Camping") This breakfast is another stick-in-campfire recipe – albeit a little less dangerous one. All you need is a package of refrigerated rolls (our recipe uses cinnamon, but you can use orange, plain, or even croissant rolls if your family likes them better). Send your kids on a stick-gathering mission to find some good skewers (or, if you’re not into that, use some metal camping skewers). Wrap the biscuit dough around the skewers while it is as cold as possible and stick it in the fire. You want to make sure you cook it quickly so that the dough doesn’t melt, but don’t light it on fire – unless of course, you like the char-broiled taste. Top with cinnamon and sugar, butter, or a sauce of your choice and enjoy right off the skewer! Your kids are sure to enjoy this finger food. **Do you have a camping recipe that never fails with your family? Let us know!** --- **Author Bio:** **Rebecca** lives in USA, but loves hiking all over the world. Her favorite is Everest Base Camp Trek in Nepal. It usually takes 16 days, but she likes to slow down, enjoy mountains, company of other adventurers and take more pictures, so it took her 28 days last time. Another of her passion is the ocean, so all short and long hikes along the ocean shore bring a lot of joy. She also writes for [HikingMastery.com](http://hikingmastery.com/). --- ###### Image credits: “[Camping Breakfast Day One](https://www.flickr.com/photos/simplybike/4971189053/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Simply Bike](https://www.flickr.com/people/simplybike/)“[Toad in the Hole](https://www.flickr.com/photos/pepemczolz/8462113703/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [pepemczolz](https://www.flickr.com/people/pepemczolz/)“[Fort Flagler camping](https://www.flickr.com/photos/heyskinny/7618568638/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [hey skinny](https://www.flickr.com/people/heyskinny/)“[Camp Pancakes](https://www.flickr.com/photos/oakleyoriginals/14289365888/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [OakleyOriginals](https://www.flickr.com/people/oakleyoriginals/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Food **Tags:** breakfast, campfire, cooking, food --- ### [Hiking Solo: How and Why to Get Over Your Fear and Just Do It](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-solo/) **Published:** February 15, 2017 **Author:** Diane **Content:** This is me on a backpacking trip when I was about 7 years old.  It was around that time that my family moved to a new house in New York which had a large woods behind it. ![little diane](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/little-diane.jpg "little diane - Mom Goes Camping") I would spend hours hiking through the woods, making forts out of branches, and exploring near a pond hidden in the brush. It was my own private paradise which was only shared by the occasional owl, raccoon, or fox that I saw. Looking back on that aspect of my childhood, it seems amazing that my parents let me go into the woods alone at the age of 7.   True, I did know how to read a map and was beating older kids during Orienteering meets.  But the fact that I was Orienteering alone is also incredulous in today’s world where kids are overprotected and coddled. It is funny how fearless I was of hiking alone as a kid.  I’d be lying if I said that I don’t get scared sometimes now. **But, if I let that fear get hold of me, I would never go anywhere.** ## You Need to Acknowledge the Risks… There are some very-real risks of hiking alone, including: *You could get lost.* *You could get mauled by a bear.* *You could get injured.* *You could succumb to natural events like flooding or falling rocks…* I know a lot of people promote “positive thinking” strategies and tell you to never even think that something bad can occur.  **But positive thinking will NOT prevent a tree from falling on your head!** As I talk about in this post about [Overcoming Fear of the Outdoors](https://momgoescamping.com/fear-outdoors/), sometimes fears are completely justified. If you aren’t comfortable doing things like reading a map or know [what to do if you see a bear](https://momgoescamping.com/bear-safety/), then maybe you shouldn’t be hiking alone yet. ### “What’s the Worst that Can Happen?” A good strategy for overcoming fear is to ask yourself, “What’s the worst that can happen?” This way you can assess the risks and come up with a plan for dealing with them (more on practical safety tips for solo hiking later). Once you are aware of the risks, you can determine whether the risk is worth the reward. ![viper snake](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/viper.jpg "viper - Mom Goes Camping")Not something you want to see while hiking alone ## In Most Cases, the Reward Is Very Worth Any Risk. For me, it is *very* worth the risk of hiking alone.  I get to… *Enjoy nature in uninhibited silence.* *Go hiking more often because you I’m not dependent on someone else’s schedule.* *Set my own pace and take breaks whenever I want.* *Change paths if I want.* *And hiking alone has taught me to enjoy my own company and the [benefits of solitude](https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/high-octane-women/201201/6-reasons-you-should-spend-more-time-alone).* For most people, this is the biggest benefit of hiking alone.  There is nothing like solitude while surrounded by nature to confront your demons and examine your life.  Not everyone likes this or needs this.  But, if you do, you’ll find hiking alone can do wonders for your sense of self. ![Meteora Greece](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/IMG_2643-682x1024.jpg "Meteora Greece - Mom Goes Camping")Looking at this view alone gave me true bliss  I dont think I would have felt it if I hadnt hiked there alone ## You’ll Rarely Be Alone when Hiking Anyway… I recently spent a month in the jungle of Peru.  It was the first time I realized that there are still large swaths of land which are uninhabited by humans. Aside from the jungle though, you’ll probably be hard pressed to find somewhere to hike completely alone. On the [Pacific Crest Trail](https://momgoescamping.com/pct-what-to-bring/), for example,  you probably won’t go more than a day without encountering other thru-hikers. Though Mac at [Halfway Anywhere](http://www.halfwayanywhere.com/trails/pacific-crest-trail/11-worst-moments-pacific-crest-trail/) said he went 3 days without seeing anyone… **This is actually what apparently scares people (especially women) most about the idea of solo hiking: The idea that anyone they meet is a psycho serial killer.** I’ve talked about this before in my post about [Why Stranger Danger is a Load of Crap](https://momgoescamping.com/stranger-danger/), and also touched on it in my post about [Why I Hitchhike with My Daughter](https://momgoescamping.com/why/). The strangers you meet on hiking alone trail are *not* serial killers.  They are other hikers and travelers who may also want some (temporary) company.  My dad, who does a lot of solo thru-hiking, often will pair up with another solo hiker he meets on the trail for part of the journey.  Eventually they go their separate ways. ## But You’ll Still Get Scared Sometimes… By now, I usually don’t feel scared when I set off solo hiking.  The excitement of the trip and my confidence in my abilities overcomes any innate fear I may have. But there are those moments on the trail where I must face my fears. For me, those fears usually come in the form of dark holes like caves, remote rock churches, and tunnels. One of the most thrilling hikes I had was in Western Ukraine.  Most people don’t know that Ukraine has dozens of old churches which were cut into rock.  They are in remote areas (that I had to hitchhike to because no bus goes there). There was one old church which I stumbled upon by accident while hiking around a remote monastery. When you come to a ladder ascending a rock face, you *have* to climb it! ![There are caves everywhere in this part of Ukraine](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/caves-1024x768.jpg "caves - Mom Goes Camping")There are caves everywhere in this part of Ukraine Did I hesitate? Yes. Did I climb ridiculously slowly? Yes? Did I finally enter the small church at the top of the ladder? Yes. Admittedly, the cave church wasn’t anything spectacular. But it was all the more majestic and powerful because I had to face a fear to get to it.  If I hadn’t hiked there alone, I don’t think I would have appreciated that moment as much. ![cave church](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/P1060542-1024x768.jpg "P1060542 - Mom Goes Camping") ## Some Basic Safety Tips for Solo Hiking As I said before, sometimes your fears of solo hiking might be completely justified.  Here are the main things you need to be aware that could go wrong, what you need to do to make sure it doesn’t happen, and how to prepare just in case the worst does occur. **Getting Lost:** - Bring a map and a compass and *know how to read it*. - Bring a portable navigation system and make sure the batteries are charged. - Consider getting an [emergency communication device](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-communication-devices/), such as SPOT - Bring all of [this hiking gear](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-packing-list/).  Even if you think it will be just a short hike, you could end up getting injured or having to spend the night. - Tell someone where you are going and when you will be back. - Know how to make an emergency shelter in case you need to spend the night. - Stick to the trail. - Always [bring enough water for the hike](https://momgoescamping.com/how-much-water-to-bring-hiking/). Bring a water filter in case you run out. - Always bring some trail snacks with you (like GORP). You’ll need energy for the hike! **Injuries:** - Make sure you’ve told someone where you are going. That person should have instructions to call search and rescue if you aren’t back by a certain time. - Learn first aid! Carry a first aid kit ([here’s a checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-first-aid-checklist/)) with you. - Know how to avoid [common hiking risks](http://hikesafe.com/index.php?page=injuries-and-afflictions-on-the-trail) like falling rocks and heat exhaustion. **Animal and Human Attacks:** - Be aware of your surroundings. - Learn what to do [if you see a bear](https://momgoescamping.com/if-you-see-bear/) or [see a snake](https://momgoescamping.com/what-to-do-if-you-see-a-snake/). - Carry bear spray with you. - Some people like to carry a firearm with them. **Weather Risks:** - Check the weather report before you go. - Learn [what to do in thunderstorms](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-thunderstorm/) to stay safe from lightening. - Always bring a poncho or rain jacket with you hiking. It can start raining quickly and being cold and wet is a terrible combination!  **Do you go hiking alone? What’s the biggest benefit for you?** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking --- ### [6 Proven Reasons to Take Your Kids Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/reasons-to-take-kids-camping/) **Published:** November 24, 2015 **Author:** Diane **Content:** In 1998, more than 9.2 million overnight stays in national parks in America were recorded. Flash forward 15 years to 2013, and then number has dropped to 7.91 million. The phenomena isn’t limited to the USA. In the UK, camping has declined by 1/5 since 2002 and Australians are camping less too.  In short, people aren’t taking their kids camping as much anymore. Before you choose a hotel for your next family holiday, consider all of these good reasons to take your kids camping. ## Camping Builds Self Esteem ![camping gives kids confidence](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/IMG_2227-1024x682.jpg "family camping trip - Mom Goes Camping") Last summer, I took two mom friends and their kids camping. It was us 3 moms and 3 kids aged 3-5.   At the time, one of the kids was having a really hard time separating from his mom. He wouldn’t even go play at birthday parties and instead clung to his mother. A lot of it had to do with the fact he lacked confidence, especially in new situations. Considering how scared the boy was in everyday life, it was amazing to see how easily he took to camping. He helped us put up the tent and gather firewood. I showed him how to build a fire (though I did the lighting). We went for a hike in the woods. After each task, he was beaming with pride.   The experience of camping and hiking really helped him come out of his shell and feel good about himself. As an [article in Today’s Parent](http://www.todaysparent.com/family/parenting/how-to-build-your-childs-self-esteem/) points out, it takes more than praise to build a child’s self-esteem. Jim Taylor, the author of *Your Kids Are Listening: Nine Messages They Need to Hear from You* says that: **Building self-confidence in children starts with helping them become competent in the world. To do so, you have to learn to step back and let your child take risks, make choices, solve problems, and stick with what they start.** ## Camping Helps Your Kids Disconnect ![camping games](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/tech-detox-945x1024.jpg "tech detox - Mom Goes Camping") Tech addiction is a real thing. As an adult who was born in the 1980s, I can still remember a time without computers, cell phones, and the internet. The biggest technology in our home was a Sega Genesis console, which I didn’t like to play very much. Our kids were born into a world where technology is everywhere. Many don’t know what it is like to go 1 day without the internet. Heck, More than 90% of all two year-olds in America have an online footprint! An [article at Inhabitots](http://www.inhabitots.com/the-many-downfalls-of-kids-addiction-to-tech-why-limiting-screen-time-will-benefit-your-child/) points to the numerous alarming studies about technology and health problems in kids. - Kids who watch 2+ hours of TV per day are more likely to be overweight - AAP notes that too much screen time is linked to sleep and eating disorders - Child cell phone use is linked to ADHD - Too much multimedia content is causing shortened attention spans - TV and computer use are linked to worse levels of psychological wellbeing As a parent, I know I can’t deny my daughter all forms of technology (there are many benefits, and we do live in the “real world”). However, I can take her camping so she learns how good it feels to disconnect. ## Camping Is Great for Family Bonding ![camping family bonding](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/family-bonding-1024x683.jpg "family bonding - Mom Goes Camping") Some of my greatest moments from childhood are from backpacking trips with my dad and sister. If you ask me how I celebrated my birthdays, I can’t remember. I can’t even remember our trip to Disney World.   But I do remember picking out candy for our trail mix, singing country western songs in the car ride to the Adirondacks, seeing a beaver making a dam, feeding friendly chipmunks, and making fire-baked bowls out of clay that we sourced from the stream. Without all of the distractions from work and technology, you can really bond with your kids during camping. And, out in a new environment, you will get to really see their strengths, weaknesses, fears, and interests. In short, you will get to know your kids and they will get to know you. ## Camping Is Good Exercise ![camping good exercise](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/running-free-1024x683.jpg "running free - Mom Goes Camping") In the United States, more than 1/3 of children are overweight or obese. Part of the reason for this is because kids are spending increasingly more time indoors instead of playing outdoors. You can’t run around and burn energy when indoors! Camping provides a lot of opportunities for exercise. Kids get exercise when they go for hikes, gather firewood, swim in a stream, or just when they are running around like crazy – and you can let them because you are out in the wilderness! By the way parents: you’ll love how quickly your kids fall asleep after a full day of camping! ## Camping Teaches Respect for Nature ![camping lessons](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/seed-disperal-1024x682.jpg "seed disperal - Mom Goes Camping") Most people go into nature so rarely that they start to fear it. In his book *Last Child in the Woods*, author Richard Louv talks about how there is an increase in nature-related phobias, especially in children. He says that this fear of nature comes because parents keep their kids indoors in order to keep them safe, and the children lose their innate affinity for nature. Humans have a natural urge to affiliate with other forms of life. Scientists refer to this urge as *biophilia.* If you don’t go into nature, then you are going against your human nature. As a mother, one of the things that I am most proud of is that my daughter LOVES spiders. She even has asked several times while camping if we can take them home with us. If she sees another kid trying to squish a bug or a worm, she immediately comes to their defense, explaining that “*all animals are important.”* She can even give a good lecture on how spiders eat the bad bugs like mosquitoes, and that without bugs and worms we wouldn’t have birds, foxes, wolves, bears, cows, or even people. Yes, she is 5 and understands the circle of life. \*Side note: Like most people, I used to be semi-afraid of spiders. I didn’t want my daughter to pick up on this fear, so I pretended that I like them. After a year of pretending that they are “cute” and “pretty”, I stopped being afraid! Now I don’t mind picking up a spider to throw it out of the tent. ## Camping Teaches Survival Skills ![making a survival shelter while camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/making-a-shelter-shrunk-1024x682.jpg "making a shelter - shrunk - Mom Goes Camping") Now, I’m not one of those doomsday preppers. But I do acknowledge that I live near an earthquake zone.   And I read the news reports about what happened in the aftermath of natural disasters like hurricanes Katrina and Sandy. If some major disaster occurs, I want to feel confident that my daughter can take care of herself. On our backpacking trips, she has learned a lot of survival skills, like: how to read a map, that you’ve got to filter water before drinking it, how to make a fire to stay warm, how to make an improvised tent, and what wild plants are edible. Even if my daughter never finds herself in a disaster situation (let’s hope!), knowing these things still boosts her self-confidence – which brings us back to the first benefit of taking your kids camping. ## Camping is Affordable One of the main reasons people give for not going on a family vacation is cost. Experts estimate that a typical vacation for a family of 4 costs $1,600 to $4,550. With so many people living paycheck-to-paycheck, it makes sense that people are worried about costs – until you compare the costs of a camping vacation. If you go wild camping, then you don’t have to pay a cent for the campsite. At campgrounds, the rates are usually affordable at about $10 to $40 per night for the entire family. That just leaves you with the costs of transportation to/from the campsite, the cost of any activities you’d like to do (boating, horseback riding, etc.) and food (which you can pack yourself instead of paying exuberant tourist rates). Yes, you do need gear to go camping, but you only have to buy it once. If you are really on a budget, you can borrow camping gear to save money. You can read this price breakdown to find out [How Much It Costs to Go Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-cost/). ## Do you take your kids camping?  Let us know in the comments or join the discussion on [Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/campingwithmom/?fref=ts). ###### Resources for this article: <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-490585/Goodbye-campers-Holidays-canvas-terminal-decline.html> <http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-17/caravanning-holidays-to-wa27s-north-declining/5398434><http://www.cdc.gov/healthyschools/obesity/facts.htm><http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20101006006722/en/Digital-Birth-Online-World><http://www.salon.com/2013/08/26/america_is_no_vacation_nation_partner/><http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2014/07/07/the-real-cost-of-summer-vacation-dont-get-buried-in-taxes/><http://visualeconomics.creditloan.com/the-business-of-american-vacations/>Image credits: [Wave and John at Mount Monadnock](https://www.flickr.com/photos/kjs76/2878392963/) by [Kat Stan](https://www.flickr.com/photos/kjs76/); [CC BY NC ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids --- ### [Best Cabin Tents for Family Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/best-cabin-tents-family-camping/) **Published:** November 23, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Cabin tents are the most popular type of family camping tent.  The vertical walls mean you get lots of headroom.  They come in many different sizes and there are instant cabin tents available for quick setup. click t If you aren’t sure if a cabin tent is right for your family, see this post about the [different types of tents and their pros/cons](https://momgoescamping.com/types-camping-tents-with-photos/).  If you are sure you want a cabin tent, I’ve chosen the best ones below.  There should be a good cabin tent here for all types of family camping. 🙂 ## Quick Picks - **Best overall: [Eureka! Copper Canyon LX](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B083T6TFC5/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B083T6TFC5&linkId=e8b64678b0339a07c8af4adb3f9cffca) (6P, 8P or 12P)** - **Runner up: [Core 9P Instant Tent](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VFH1RQS/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00VFH1RQS&linkId=cb416fcd4485a17496b7a8adc15cdfc0)** - **Best for backpacking and bad weather: [Eureka! Space Camp 6P](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07KT9VVPZ/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07KT9VVPZ&linkId=34565cf2d52f970c81646f27bf1e2509)** - **Best for large families: [Core 12P Instant Tent](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DRQH7RQ/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07DRQH7RQ&linkId=9e229c9d23f2be90994f3f6b30c937d7)** - **Best on a budget: [Coleman 6P Instant Cabin Tent](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004E4ERHA/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B004E4ERHA&linkId=fdb103c19999a33936b518bae58364ae)** ## Comparison Table \[Click to showhide\] [table id=49 /] ## Best Cabin Tents for Family Camping ### Eureka! Copper Canyon LX Tent **Best for:** Overall best family tent because usability and weather resistance. ![eureka copper canyon LX family camping tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/eureka-copper-canyon-family-camping-tent.jpg "eureka copper canyon family camping tent - Mom Goes Camping") #### Features - **Sleeps:** 12 (6P and 8p sizes available) - **Rooms:** 2 with removable divider - **Footprint size:** 14×12 feet - **Max height:** 84 inches - **Weight:** 36lbs 13oz - [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B083T6TFC5/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B083T6TFC5&linkId=e8b64678b0339a07c8af4adb3f9cffca) #### Review The Eureka! Copper Canyon tent has some really nice extra features like an Eport and lots of interior storage.  The large mesh windows are also great: leave them open and you’ll get plenty of light and ventilation in the tent. Setting up the tent is actually pretty simple.  There are clips instead of sleeves, so poles go through easily. It’s even possible for one person to get the tent up alone, though an extra set of hands will make it faster. Compared to other cabin family tents, the Coppery Canyon does handle rain well.  The fly overhangs the windows to prevent leaks. However, there are no vents, so it gets steamy inside with the windows completely up.  The floor material is very thin, so some rain may leak through.  I’d recommend using this tent with a groundsheet to prevent that – which means one more thing to pack. Luckily the tent is actually pretty lightweight at 22-37lbs depending on the size. **Pros** - Massive doors - Lots of light and ventilation with windows open - Fast and easy setup - Lots of headroom **Cons** - Somewhat pricy - Needs groundsheet in rain - No vents [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B083T6TFC5/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B083T6TFC5&linkId=e8b64678b0339a07c8af4adb3f9cffca) --- ### Coleman Instant Dark Room Cabin Tent **Best for:** Camping under the hot sun and daytime napping ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/coleman-instant-cabin-dark-tent.jpg "coleman instant cabin dark tent - Mom Goes Camping") #### Features - **Sleeps:** 10 - **Rooms:** 2 with removable divider - **Footprint size:** 14×10 feet - **Max height:** 79 inches - **Weight:** 35.5lbs - [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0787D6SD2/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B0787D6SD2&linkId=06f451f4400652f22b5831b9b94cfabc) #### Review The Coleman Dark Room tents are designed for camping in sunny weather.  The material blocks sun so you can sleep in later – or your [baby can take a nap inside](https://momgoescamping.com/sleep-tent-with-baby/).  Unlike other dark tents, the Coleman tent also blocks heat so it doesn’t turn into a sauna. Setup is incredibly easy with the tent.  The tent is pre-attached to the poles it really only takes a minute or two to get the tent up. There are some other nice features of the tent for families too, like lots of storage and a removable divider to make two rooms.  The door is hinged, which is easy for getting in/out. The 10P version of the tent has two doors: one in front and one in the back. This means you can actually have 10 people sleeping in it without everyone stepping on each other. The major downside is that the tent sucks in heavy rains. It doesn’t look like the seams are sealed very well on the rain fly or tent.  You could seal them yourself though to make it more rainproof or just pitch under a tarp shelter for additional protection. \*Coleman makes other sizes of their instant tents but currently only the 10P tent has the Dark Room feature. **Pros** - Instant setup - Blocks light and heat - Hinged door - Front and back entry doors **Cons** - Door zippers snag - Leakage issues in heavy rain [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0787D6SD2/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B0787D6SD2&linkId=06f451f4400652f22b5831b9b94cfabc) --- ### Coleman 6P Instant Cabin Tent **Best for:** First family tent, entry-level summer camping ![Coleman instant cabin tent for family camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/coleman-instant-tent.jpg "coleman instant tent - Mom Goes Camping") #### Features - **Sleeps:** 6 (4p size also available) - **Rooms:** 1 - **Footprint size:** 10×9 feet - **Max height:** 72 inches - **Weight:** 24lbs - [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004E4ERHA/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B004E4ERHA&linkId=fdb103c19999a33936b518bae58364ae) #### Review This classic Colman family tent is a smaller version of the 10P Dark Room tent.  It also has instant setup. There is no rain fly because the tent material is waterproof. As with any single-wall tent, the Instant Cabin has really bad ventilation.  There is a roof vent on top and you can open up the massive windows to reduce condensation.  However, you’ll need to keep the windows closed in the rain so condensation is almost inevitable. **Pros** - Instant setup - Affordable **Cons** - Only one room - Condensation in bad weather [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004E4ERHA/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B004E4ERHA&linkId=fdb103c19999a33936b518bae58364ae) --- ### Core 9 Instant Cabin Tent **Best for:** If you want a mosquito-proof screen room to hang out in ![core 9 instant cabin family tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/core-9-instant-cabin-family-tent.jpg "core 9 instant cabin family tent - Mom Goes Camping") #### Features - **Sleeps:** 9 - **Rooms:** 2 with removable divider - **Footprint size:** 14×9 feet - **Max height:** 78 inches - **Weight:** 30.5lbs - [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VFH1RQS/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00VFH1RQS&linkId=cb416fcd4485a17496b7a8adc15cdfc0) #### Review I love the design of this 9P tent by Core.  It gives you a sleeping area in the back with a draw-back divider. The front room can be used as a screened porch.  You’ll like hanging out there at dusk when the mosquitoes come out. You could also use the screen room as a separate sleeping area, but the two doors are located here.  You’ll have to climb over each other getting in/out. Putting the tent up is almost instant. It has telescoping poles and an intuitive frame.  Once the frame is together, you just clip the tent in place. The other cool design feature of the Core 9P family tent is that there are vents on the ground.  These really help with airflow when you have the windows rolled up.  The roof is mesh, so you don’t get as much condensation as with other cabin tents.  This makes it a better pick for cold and rainy weather. The tent seems to handle rain very well.  The rain fly extends over the windows a bit so you can leave them slightly open for ventilation in light rains.  If the weather will get really bad, you’ll want a groundsheet under the tent. An annoying thing about the tent is that there aren’t any tie-ups for the windows.  When you unzip them, they just hang there – which may be in your face depending on where you sleep.  There’s also no way you will comfortably get 9 people in this tent.  It’s better for 4-5 people and use the front room as a porch for hanging out and gear. \*Core also makes a larger [10P version of this tent](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06X9G7Q5V/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B06X9G7Q5V&linkId=687bde5cf0b335fa67245f6738532f94) with more headroom, but it isn’t an instant tent. **Pros** - Good ventilation - Handles rain well - Instant setup - Large doors - Sturdy construction **Cons** - Small footprint for 9P tent - Windows don’t have tie-ups [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VFH1RQS/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00VFH1RQS&linkId=cb416fcd4485a17496b7a8adc15cdfc0) --- ### Core 12 Person Instant Cabin Tent **Best for:** Large families who need three rooms ![core 12 instant family cabin tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/core-12-instant-tent.jpg "core 12 instant tent - Mom Goes Camping") #### Features - **Sleeps:** 12 - **Rooms:** 3 with removable divider - **Footprint size:** 18×10 feet - **Max height:** 80 inches - **Weight:** 52lbs - [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DRQH7RQ/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07DRQH7RQ&linkId=9e229c9d23f2be90994f3f6b30c937d7) #### Review If you need a very large 3-room family tent, this is one of the best options (and it’s budget-friendly).  The tent has a central entranceway with a door on each side.   There are two room dividers which go up to make a total of three rooms.  The tent sets up very quickly. You could theoretically fit 12 people in this tent.  But the people sleeping on the side rooms would have to crawl over the people in the middle room to get in/out.  I wish they would have put a door at each side so you could enter or exit without crossing the center room.   As it is, the center room is best for hanging out or gear storage and not for sleeping. As with most other Core tents, there are floor vents.  These really do help with condensation when camping in cold weather.  The tent withstands rain fairly well – but the seams will eventually start to leak.  Be prepared to re-seal the seams after using the tent for a season or two. I also wish the rain fly extended over the windows more. **Pros** - Two large entranceways - Three separate rooms - Floor vents prevent condensation - Affordable for size **Cons** - Windows may leak in heavy rain - Will need to re-seal seams fairly quickly - Insanely heavy [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DRQH7RQ/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07DRQH7RQ&linkId=9e229c9d23f2be90994f3f6b30c937d7) --- ### Big Agnes Big House 6P Cabin Tent **Best for:** Tall people, camping or backpacking in bad weather ![big agnes big house 6 person family cabin camping tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/big-agnes-big-house-6-person-family-cabin-camping-tent.jpg "big agnes big house 6 person family cabin camping tent - Mom Goes Camping") #### Features - **Sleeps:** 6 - **Rooms:** 1 - **Footprint size:** 118×100 inches - **Max height:** 81 inches - **Weight:** 16.4lbs - [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B081758H43/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B081758H43&linkId=2f860e22dd9c11ce0a824b7da3ec755f) #### Review I love the Big House 6P tent because it is incredibly versatile.  It serves very well as a family cabin tent that fits up to 6 people (realistically, 2-3 adults and 2-3 kids or dogs).  You can also set up the rain fly by itself to use as a shade shelter.   If you need more space, there is an optional vestibule (sold separately) that connects to the front of the tent. As you’d expect from Big Agnes, the tent withstands bad weather really well.  The rain fly actually extends far down the side of the tent so no leakage occurs. There are flaps over the zippers to keep rain from getting through.  The seams are sealed very well so you won’t have to reseal them anytime soon. Because there are just two and a half poles, the cabin tent is stupidly easy to set up.  You just slide the poles through the small sleeves and then clip in place. The only real downside is that there aren’t any windows to look out and it gets dark in the tent. **Pros** - Withstands heavy rains well - Can use just fly as a shelter - Optional vestibule for extra space - Lightweight for size **Cons** - No windows - Not much light inside tent [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B081758H43/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B081758H43&linkId=2f860e22dd9c11ce0a824b7da3ec755f) --- ### Eureka! Space Camp 6P Cabin Tent **Best for:** Lightweight family backpacking tent with lots of storage space ![eureka space camp family cabin tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/eureka-space-camp-family-cabin-tent.jpg "eureka space camp family cabin tent - Mom Goes Camping") #### Features - **Sleeps:** 6 - **Rooms:** 1 - **Footprint size:** 10×8.3 feet - **Max height:** 78 inches - **Weight:** 16lbs 1oz - [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07KT9VVPZ/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07KT9VVPZ&linkId=34565cf2d52f970c81646f27bf1e2509) #### Review At just 16lbs 1oz, the Eureka Space Camp 6p tent is incredibly lightweight for a cabin tent.  It also has better weather protection than most family cabin tents because of the full-coverage rain fly.   You don’t have to worry about rain getting into the tent, even if it is windy.  There are upper and lower vents built into the tent, so you don’t get condensation issues in cold weather either. Another nice perk is that there are two doors and two vestibules.   Since this isn’t the largest tent, the storage room comes in handy. Be warned that the Space Camp only has mesh on the inner tent.  You can’t zip up these windows.  Without the rain fly, you basically get a nice bug tent – but absolutely no privacy.  Thus, you really need to use the tent with the rain fly. Because there are no windows in the fly, you won’t have any views from the tent like you get with most cabin tents.  But the windows are where cabin tents tend to leak, so you essentially trade the views for weather protection. Also note that the floor is pretty thin.  Use a groundsheet (not included) in bad weather or rough ground. **Pros** - Two doors and two vestibules - Excellent ventilation - Full coverage rain fly - Lightweight for size - Vestibule converts to awning **Cons** - Fairly small interior - Can’t close interior mesh windows - Thin floor; use groundsheet - Pricy [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07KT9VVPZ/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07KT9VVPZ&linkId=34565cf2d52f970c81646f27bf1e2509) --- ### Coleman Skylodge Instant Cabin Tent ![coleman skylodge family camping cabin tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/coleman-skylodge-family-camping-cabin-tent.jpg "coleman skylodge family camping cabin tent - Mom Goes Camping") #### Features - **Sleeps:** 8 (6P, 10P and 12P sizes available) - **Rooms:** 2 with removable divider - **Footprint size:** 12.5×9 feet - **Max height:** 77 inches - **Weight:** 29.7lbs - [**Buy Here** ](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08KGRTZGT/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08KGRTZGT&linkId=eddee9e4101931da2719d8940cf24bf5) #### Review The Skylodge is another really popular tent by Coleman.  The standout feature of the tent is that it has floor-to-ceiling windows.  You can really enjoy hanging out inside the tent during the day because of all the light and ventilation  you get. These windows do mean a risk of leaking during heavy rains.  However, the Skylodge does seem to handle rain fairly well without leaks.  The bathtub floor is very deep so you don’t even need a groundsheet with it.  However, it does flap around a lot in wind.  You’ll only want to use this as a summer tent. There is a removable divider for making two rooms (the 6P version doesn’t have this).  You only have one door though, so it’s not really practical to have people sleeping in the front room.    As you’d expect with Coleman tents, you’ll eventually have to do minor repairs as the construction is somewhat cheap. **Pros** - Great ventilation - Massive windows - Color coded tent poles **Cons** - Not great in windy weather - Only for summer camping - Need two people to set up [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08KGRTZGT/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08KGRTZGT&linkId=eddee9e4101931da2719d8940cf24bf5) --- ## Quick Advice for Buying a Cabin Family Tent ### 1. How You Will Use the Space? Do you want to use the entire tent for sleeping?  There better be seperate rooms and a doorway for each. Do you want to use one room as a porch? Then look for two-room cabin tents with dividers that are sewn in.  Clips will let bugs into your tent! Do you need versatility? Some cabin tents can be used fly-only as a shelter, or have optional vestibules for extra space. ### 2. Ventilation Matters When the temperatures drop at night, the temperature inside the tent will be warmer than outside.  This causes condensation, which can drip down and make everything wet.  Good cabin tents have built-in vents that can stay open even in the rain. Read more about tent condensation in this post about [How much warmer is it inside a tent?](https://momgoescamping.com/is-it-warmer-inside-a-tent/) ### 3. Measure Your Air Mattresses! If you want to fit air mattresses in a cabin tent, then you need to do some math.  Calculate how much space your mattresses will take up in different configurations.  Will they fit in the tent? Will you still have walking space around the mattress? You’d be surprised.  Some massive cabin tents can only hold one queen size air mattress because of their layouts. ### 4. Will It Leak? One of the major downsides of cabin tents is that they perform poorly in bad weather. They rarely have full-coverage rainflies.  The exposed windows are prone to leaking. Vertical walls mean wind blasts right against them, so they don’t hold up well in open mountain areas or during storms. On top of that, a lot of cabin tents are cheaply made.  The seams eventually open up, allowing water to drip through.  You may want to pack some [tent seam sealer](https://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=7e5ee23991d645d7fc5582582ad26284&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=sporting&keywords=tent%20seam%20sealer) in case of leaks. ### 5. Larger Isn’t Always Better An 8 person cabin tent realistically won’t fit eight people comfortably.  So you will need to get a larger tent than your group size.  However, you might not want to get a massive tent. If the tent is too high, short people won’t be able to set it up or get the rain fly on easily. The larger the tent, the bigger space you need to pitch – not always possible on rocky ground. So be aware of the tradeoffs which come with large cabin tents. ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** tents --- ### [How to Hang a Food Bag Against Bears and Critters: Best Methods + Infographic](https://momgoescamping.com/hang-food-bag/) **Published:** January 19, 2024 **Author:** Diane **Content:** If you are going backcountry camping — especially in bear country — you will need to store your food properly.  In many cases, this means hanging your food in a tree to keep it away from bears and other animals.  There are several ways to hang food camping, some of which are much better than others. This post will go over those methods, as well as tips so you don’t end up doing something like hitting yourself in the head with the throw rock. 🙂  Also read this [Guide to Bear Safety When Outdoors](https://momgoescamping.com/bear-safety/). **Jump to:** - [Why Hang Your Food?](#why) - [Tips for a Successful Hang](#tips) - [What You Need](#supplies) - [The 5 Ways to Hang a Bear Bag](#methods) 1. [Simplest bear bag hang](#simplest-method) 2. [Marrison Haul method](#marrison-haul) 3. [PCT method](#pct-method) 4. [Two tree method](#two-tree-method) 5. [Double rope/Counterbalance method](#double-rope-method) - [Bear bag vs. Bear canister ](#canister) ## Food Hang Infographic Click the image for higher resolution! [![how to hang a food bag camping against bears and critters infographic](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/hang-bear-bag-infographic-600-wide-380x1024.jpg "hang bear bag infographic 600 wide - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/hang-bear-bag-infographic.jpg) --- **Wants this info (and more) in PRINTABLE format? Get my Camping Cheat Sheets: An Illustrated Manual** [![camping cheat sheets](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/interior-pages-1024x356.jpg "interior pages - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets) **[Click to buy them!](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** --- \[sta\_anchor id=”why” /\] ## Why Hang Your Food when Camping? The obvious reason to hang your food is to keep it safe from wild animals. You don’t want to wake up only to discover all your food for the trip is gone.  But hanging a food bag is also about protecting wild animals from your food. When wild animals like bears get a taste of human food, they learn to associate people with an easy meal.  Instead of avoiding humans, they will intentionally seek out humans.  These bears can become problematic and may need to be relocated or even killed. Hence why the NPS [says](https://www.nps.gov/yell/learn/habituated-grizzly-bears.htm), “Human food conditioning invariably gets bears into trouble and ultimately reduces their survival.” ### Critters Also Steal Food In addition to bears, there are plenty of other animals will happily eat your food.  It’s impressive how quickly they can get to it too!  Take a look at the photo below. I left camp for less than 10 minutes to gather some more firewood.  By the time I got back, a (I’m guessing) fox had already devoured my trail snacks. Apparently it didn’t like my dehydrated pasta sauce as much, but munched through that bag too. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/critters-ate-through-food-bag.jpg "critters ate through food bag - Mom Goes Camping")Food bags after a critter got to them ### Can I Keep Food in My Car? If you are not in bear country, yes you can absolutely store food in your car.  However, storing food in your car is not always allowed in bear country.  For example, [Yosemite](https://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/bears.htm) allows you to store food in your hard-topped vehicle but only during the day.  It must be out of sight, all windows must be closed and doors must be locked. Even if it’s allowed to store food in your car, it’s not always smart.  There are lots of examples of bears breaking into cars (and causing extensive damage in the process) to get to food.  This is why many parks don’t allow you to store food in your car. **For more on bear food strage, read: [How to Keep Bears Away from Your Campsite](https://momgoescamping.com/keep-bears-away-campsite/)** ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/car-damaged-by-bear.jpg "car damaged by bear - Mom Goes Camping")This car was damaged by a black bear which managed to get in Even the doorframe is bent ### Don’t Keep Food in Your Tent It is incredibly dangerous to keep food in your tent in bear country. Do you really want to be awoken by a bear tearing through your tent to get at your peanut butter protein bars? Don’t even bring the food into your tent since your tent will then smell like food. Even outside of bear country, it’s not smart to keep food in your tent.  I personally like my tent and don’t want a mouse to eat a hole through it to get to my snacks! \[sta\_anchor id=”tips” /\] ## Important: Hanging a Bear Bag Correctly Is VERY Difficult While the instructions make it seem easy, hanging a bear bag is really difficult in real-life conditions.  Some issues you may have: - **Finding a good tree.** Or *any* tree in some terrain. - **Throwing the rope.** You’ll need to throw it least 12 feet up in the air. It is not easy. The phrase “throw like a girl” literally applies to me in this situation! - **Rope gets caught in branches.** Even if you get it *over* the branch, it might get tangled on the way down. So annoying! - **Remembering instructions:** Because it’s not like you can check the internet in the backcountry! ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/bear-bag-pole-in-yellowstone.jpg "bear bag pole in yellowstone - Mom Goes Camping")Finding a good tree is so difficult that some backcountry camps in Yellowstone have bear poles for hanging food It prevents trees from getting damaged too[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/hanging-a-bear-bag-without-any-trees.jpg "hanging a bear bag without any trees - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/hanging-a-bear-bag-without-any-trees.jpg)There were literally no trees here so she ingeniously used the horn of the rock ### Tips for Hanging a Bear Bag When you take a look at the instructions below, it might seem rather straightforward and easy to hang a bear bag. But rarely does it work out as perfectly as in the diagrams. Here are just some of the issues you may have when hanging a bear bag: - **Give yourself LOTS of time.** Scout out a tree and get your hang set up immediately when you get to camp.  Don’t wait until after dinner! - **Make sure you have enough daylight:** Don’t wait until the end of the day, because darkness will quickly fall and then you’ll really have a blast trying to hang it. - **Find the “perfect” tree.** It’s worth the effort to scout out a tree without much vegetation in the way. - **Divide up weight.** If you have a lot of food, you’ll need to divide it up and do multiple hangs. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/hanging-a-bear-bag-with-too-heavy-food-bags.jpg "hanging a bear bag with too heavy food bags - Mom Goes Camping")These scouts have to work hard to lift those bags and could seriously damage trees in the process They should have hung each bag separately \[sta\_anchor id=”supplies” /\] ## Supplies for Hanging a Bear Bag ### **1. Food Bag** The best food bag is: - Waterproof - Drawstring or rolltop closure - Has a strap on the *bottom* (so you can hang the bag upsidedown so no water gets into it) A lightweight dry bag like the one below works great. But, so long as the [bag is sturdy and waterproof](https://www.globosurfer.com/best-waterproof-duffel-bags/), you are fine. I usually just use my backpack’s rain cover. A heavy-duty shopping bag will work in a pinch. ![This waterproof dry sack by Osprey is the perfect bear bag. Buy it here for .](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/bear-bag.jpg "bear bag - Mom Goes Camping")*This waterproof dry sack by Osprey is the perfect bear bag [Buy it here](https://amzn.to/3Ob3T41)* ### **2. Rope** You’ll need approximately 20 to 50 feet of rope to hang a bear bag. It’s better to have more than less! **Important: Thin rope damages trees!** Don’t get rope thinner than 1.5mm as it will cut into tree branches and damage them. ![cord for hanging a bear bag](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/three-bulls-rope.jpg "three bulls rope - Mom Goes Camping")*This ultralight cord by ThreeBulls is reflective so you can find your bear bag in the dark  [Buy it here](https://amzn.to/2K8rBtT)* ### 3. Throw Bag You’ll need to tie the rope to a throw bag so you can toss it over the branch. To make a throw bag: 1. Empty your tent stake bag (or another small drawstring bag) 2. Put some rocks in the bag. 3. Make sure the bag is closed. 4. Tie it to your throw rope. **DO NOT USE A ROCK!** Even if you are awesome at tying knots, the rock can still come undone and hit you in the head. Yes, this happens often!  I almost got injured at least twice before I learned my lesson. :/ [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/throwing-rope-for-a-bear-bag.jpg "The Toss - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/throwing-rope-for-a-bear-bag.jpg)A carabiner is too light to pull the rope down after it goes over the branch especially if vegetation is in the way Make life easier by using a throw bag ### 4. Odor-Proof Bags (Optional) Hanging your food won’t stop bears from smelling it. And bears have amazing senses of smell. They can detect food from 20 miles away! Lots of campers have stories about **bears spending all night trying to get to the food.**  This hasn’t happened to me, but I definitely wouldn’t be able to sleep with a major predator outside my tent door! One solution is to put your food in odor proof bags before putting it in the food bag. Odor-proof bags aren’t 100% effective. However, they do reduce smells. The large bags are also great for putting your stinky clothes into. 😀 ![odor proof bags for bears](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/odor-proof-bags-opsak.jpg "odor proof bags opsak - Mom Goes Camping")*These odor proof bags by Loksak are the most popular with backpackers [Get them here](https://amzn.to/2HH3BAf)* --- **Not sure what to eat while outdoors? I’ve just written an eBook with over 50 dehydrator trail recipes, plus tons of advice on meal planning for backpacking trips.** **Learn more [here](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/).  Or [buy it now](https://gum.co/gourmetasheck?wanted=true).** ![backpacking meals and food](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/gallery-min.jpg "gallery-min - Mom Goes Camping")*These are the types of meals Im eating when I backpack They pack in over 130 calories per ounce dry weight Just add water to rehydrate [Get the book here](https://gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck?wanted=true)* --- \[sta\_anchor id=”methods” /\] ## Ways to Hang a Food Bag There are multiple ways of hanging a bear bag. It is good to familiarize yourself with more than one of these because each has its pros and cons, and some are more suitable for certain types of trees. ### **General Guidelines:** Regardless of the hang method you use, follow these guidelines. - **Follow the Bearmuda Triangle:** This means keeping your food hang, at least 200 feet downwind from camp. As I keep emphasizing, bears have really good senses of smell. They will be able to smell your food in the bear bag, and will likely try to get it. The last thing you want is bear trampling through your campground because the scent of food is there. For these reasons, you need to make sure your bear bag is hung at least 200 feet downwind from camp! - **The branch should be 15-20 feet off the ground.** The food bag itself needs to be at least 12 feet off the ground (large bears are over 8 feet tall when standing and can reach even higher up). Since the food bag hangs down a bit, the branch needs to be around 15 feet or higher. - **Choose a branch which cannot support the bear’s weight.** You don’t want the bear climbing onto the branch to get to the food.  Also make sure none of the branches right *under* the food bag can support a bear. - **Hang at least 6 feet away from the tree trunk.** Bears can climb the tree and reach out to grab the food bag. Some experts say to keep it 10 feet from the trunk! - **Put ALL scented items into the bear bag:** That includes your soap, toothpaste, dish soap, perfumes, body creams (not sure why you are bringing these items camping though 😉 ). Since you will need your toothpaste at the end of the night, you can put it in a smaller bag and attach it to the main food bag. ![bearmuda triangle](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/bearmuda-triangle.jpg "bearmuda triangle - Mom Goes Camping") \[sta\_anchor id=”simplest-method” /\] ### 1. Simple Method/Critter Hang - Very easy - Only requires 20-25 feet of rope - Not recommended in bear country #### **Instructions:** 1. Throw rope over the branch. 2. Tie your food bag to one end of the rope. 3. Pull on the rope so the bear bag goes as high as possible. 4. Tie the rope to the tree trunk. 5. To retrieve the bear bag, untie the rope at the tree trunk. Slowly release the rope so the bag doesn’t come crashing down! ![critter bag food hang](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/critter-bag-food-hang.jpg "critter bag food hang - Mom Goes Camping") --- \[sta\_anchor id=”marrison-haul” /\] ### 2. Marrison Haul Method - Uses 2 carabiners and 50 feet of rope - Carabiners makes it easier to hoist/lower food bag - Less likely to damage tree branches - Not recommended in bear country #### **Instructions:** 1. Toss side A of the rope over the branch. The rope should be at least 6 feet from the trunk of the tree. 2. On side B of the rope, make a “trucker’s hitch” knot about 6 feet up. 3. Attach carabiner 1 into the knot you just made. 4. Run the end of side B through the carabiner. 5. In the loop you just made, attach carabiner 2 and attach the food bag to this. 6. Tie rope side A to a nearby tree; tie as high up as you can 7. Now tie rope side B to the same tree 8. To retrieve your food bag, just untie and release rope side B slowly. [![marrison haul food hang method instructions](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/marrison-haul-method.jpg "marrison haul method - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/marrison-haul-method.jpg) --- \[sta\_anchor id=”pct-method” /\] ### 3. PCT Method - Requires at least 40 feet of rope, 1 carabiner and 1 stick - Considered best in bear country because they aren’t any ropes which can be chewed through to make the food drop. - Tree branch needs to be at least 20 feet high - Slightly awkward to tie the stick in place while the food bag is hanging in the air - Difficult with heavy food bags. **Steps:** 1. Throw a rope over a tree branch about 20 feet high. 2. Remove throw bag. Tie carabiner to the rope end. Also attach food bag to carabiner. Feed the other end of the rope through the carabiner. 3. Pull rope so the food bag goes up. Tie a stick to the dangling rope with a clove hitch. 4. Slowly release the dangling rope. As you do, the stick will go upwards and jam in the carabiner. 5. To retrieve your food, pull on the dangling end of rope and remove the jam stick. Then slowly release the rope so the food bag comes down. **[![pct bear bag hang instructions](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/pct-bear-bag-hang-instructions.jpg "pct bear bag hang instructions - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/pct-bear-bag-hang-instructions.jpg)** [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/pct-bear-bag-hang-method-in-real-life.jpg "pct bear bag hang method in real life - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/pct-bear-bag-hang-method-in-real-life.jpg)And heres what the PCT method looks like in real life --- \[sta\_anchor id=”two-tree-method” /\] ### 4. Two-Tree Method - Requires at least 50 feet of rope and 1 carabiner - Good when you can’t find one suitable branch - Safer against bears than methods 1 and 2, but not as good as PCT method - Must throw the rope two times #### **Instructions:** 1. Find two trees which are 12-20 feet apart and each have a branch which is at least 15 feet high. 2. Throw one end of the rope over a branch. Tie the end around trunk of the tree. 3. Throw the other end of the rope over the second branch. 4. Using a carabiner, attach your food bag to the rope between the trees 5. Pull on the loose end of the rope to hoist the food bag into the air between the two trees. 6. Tie the rope to the second tree. 7. To retrieve the food bag, *slowly* untie one end of the rope and loosen it so the food bag gently comes to the ground. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/two-tree-method.jpg "two tree method - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/two-tree-method.jpg) ![two tre method food hang in real life](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/two-tre-method-food-hang-in-real-life.jpg "two tre method food hang in real life - Mom Goes Camping")Heres what the two tree hang method looks like in real life --- \[sta\_anchor id=”double-rope-method” /\] ### 5. Double Rope Method/Counterbalance Method Note: I really hate this method because you generally need two people and the food bags can get stuck in the tree, so I didn’t include it in the infographic. - Requires 40 feet of rope, 2 carabiners and 2 food bags - Very difficult for one person to do - Need a branch at least 20 feet high - Bags can get stuck in the tree - Food may get damaged when poking bags with stick or lowering #### **Instructions:** 1. Toss your rope over the tree branch so both ends are now touching the ground. 2. Divide your food into two bags of equal weight. Attach one bag to rope side A. 3. Pull on rope side B to hoist the food bag into the air. Pull it as high as it can go.   If you have a friend to help, have the friend hold the rope now. 4. While your friend holds the rope so the food bag stays in the air, tie the second food bag to rope side B. Attach it as high as you can reach. Create a loop with the extra rope. You will use this for retrieving the bear bag. 5. Let go of the ropes. Now, use a long stick to push the second food bag up (this will lower the first bag). Both food bags should be level with each other. They should be at least 12 feet off the ground. 6. To retrieve the bear bag, use your long stick to grab the loop and pull it down.   You can then remove the food bag and lower the other food bag down. ## Bear Bag vs. Bear Canister Bears are very smart.  They can easily figure out which part of the rope to cut to make the food bag drop.  The fact that most people don’t hang a food bag properly also makes it easy for them. For these reasons, many national parks now require campers to use a bear canister.  Rangers might even stop you and ask you to show your bear canister.  If it doesn’t meet regulations, then you will get fined or even kicked out of the park. Even if it isn’t required, you still may want to use a bear canister instead. While canisters are heavy and bulky, they save you the hassle of having to hang a food bag, especially when thru-hiking. ### Use a Bear Canister If: - **It is required** - **Bears are a problem where you are going** (Yosemite, Lake Tahoe…) - **Trees will likely be scarce** - **You suck at throwing** - **Weight isn’t an issue** - **You’ll be getting to camp late** - **You want convenience, even if it means carrying some extra weight** ### Use a Bear Hang If: - **Bears aren’t likely to be seen where you are going** - **Your food is more likely to be stolen by critters than a bear** - **You will get to camp early enough to hang the bear bag properly** \*Bear Vault is the most popular bear canister for backpacking (available [here at Amazon](https://amzn.to/3amXvjK) and here on [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fc%2Fbear-resistant-food-containers%3Fpagesize%3D90)). There is also the option of using a Ursack instead of a bear canister ([Amazon](https://amzn.to/38lcycC), ).  It’s a bear-proof bag made from Kevlar material.  It does just as good of a job at keeping your food away from bears, but is much lighter and easier to carry. **\*Read the [difference between bear canisters and Ursack](https://momgoescamping.com/bear-canister-vs-ursack/) here.**![](//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=momcampnew-20&l=am2&o=1&a=B07YL9HPVX) --- ###### Image credits: “[IMG\_1467](https://www.flickr.com/photos/jim_bogar/1441073788/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [jim\_bogar](https://www.flickr.com/people/jim_bogar/), “[Our first raising of the bear bags](https://www.flickr.com/photos/chrisbrooks/7766308576/)” ([CC BY-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/2.0/)) by [brookscl](https://www.flickr.com/people/chrisbrooks/), “[The Toss](https://www.flickr.com/photos/ken-ichi/3689576900/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [Ken-ichi](https://www.flickr.com/people/ken-ichi/), “[P1070011.jpg](https://www.flickr.com/photos/brianholsclaw/6128975254/)” ([CC BY-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/2.0/)) by [brianholsclaw](https://www.flickr.com/people/brianholsclaw/), “[Hanging our bear bag](https://www.flickr.com/photos/chriswaits/7433681646/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [waitscm](https://www.flickr.com/people/chriswaits/), “[bear bag food hang](https://www.flickr.com/photos/badenton/17504576281/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [badenton](https://www.flickr.com/people/badenton/), “[Bear Damage0001](https://www.flickr.com/photos/californiadfg/26708147412/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [CaliforniaDFW](https://www.flickr.com/people/californiadfg/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety --- ### [Backpacking Food: What to Eat While On the Trail](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-food/) **Published:** August 26, 2019 **Author:** Diane **Content:** For me, eating a delicious meal while I enjoy the view of a glacier lake or stunning vista is one of the best parts of backpacking.  But figuring out what backpacking food to bring can be confusing – and bringing the wrong backpacking food can mean you end up hungry or with a very heavy pack. **This backpacking food guide goes over everything you’ll need to plan food for your trip.** **Jump To:** - **[What Foods Are Good for Backpacking?](#requirements)** - [**Types of Backpacking Meals**](#types) - [**Planning Backpacking Food**](#planning) - [**Backpacking Meal Ideas**](#meal-ideas) **\*Guess what? I wrote an entire ebook on backpacking food.  It’s got over 50 recipes plus tons of advice on meal planning, nutrition, and which foods to choose.  [Learn more here](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/).** [![dehydrator backpacking recipes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/book-with-tablet.png "book with tablet - Mom Goes Camping")](https://gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck/) \[sta\_anchor id=”requirements” /\] ## What Foods Are Good for Backpacking? The best backpacking foods meet these four requirements: Calorie-dense, quick and easy to prepare, packable and nutritious. I’ll go over each of these requirements below. ### 1. Calorie-Dense Because you have to carry all of your food while backpacking, calorie-density is one of the most important things to consider. Calorie-dense simply means a food has a lot of calories for its weight.  Note: Calorie-dense is *not* the same as lightweight.  Think bagels (calorie dense) vs. rice cakes (lightweight). **A good baseline to shoot for is 120 calories per ounce.**  That will give you 3,500 calories in 29oz (1.8lbs). For longer backpacking trips where you’ll need more calories per day, aim for 130+ calories per ounce. If you get 150 calories per ounce, you’ll have 3,500 calories per day in in just 1.4lbs – a significantly less amount to carry per day. **Read: [Healthy Calorie-Dense Backpacking Foods](https://momgoescamping.com/calorie-dense-healthy-backpacking-foods/)** ### 2. Quick and Easy to Prepare Backpacking usually means that you will be hiking for a good portion of the day. So, foods which take a long time to cook — such as “cowboy beans” and whole grains – are out of the question.  You are better off with quick-cooking foods like couscous or instant rice or foods which don’t require cooking at all. Even if you want to allocate time for cooking each time, you will still want to keep your meals simple.  Otherwise you will spend a lot of time unpacking ingredients and cleaning up. You’ll want to choose meals which are quick to cook or don’t require cooking at all. ### 3. Packable Some foods are calorie-dense and easy to prepare, but simply won’t survive in your backpack well.  For example, avocados can end up a mashed mess in your pack. Perishable foods like soft cheeses and boiled eggs will go bad quickly. Crackers, chips and some cookies crumble easily (though you won’t mind eating the crumbs with a spoon when you are hungry enough!). [![camping hack spoon to eat cookie crumbs](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/camping-hack-spoon-to-eat-cookie-crumbs.jpg "camping hack spoon to eat cookie crumbs - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/camping-hack-spoon-to-eat-cookie-crumbs.jpg)These cookies crumbled in my pack so Im eating them with a spoon ### 4. Nutritious If there’s ever a time for junk food, it’s when you are trekking miles each day with a heavy pack!  I definitely “reward” myself with foods like gummy bears and chocolate-covered pretzels while backpacking. However,  you need to be careful about eating too much junk food while backpacking — especially if on a long thru hike.  Backpacking can put a physical strain on your body.  Without enough nutrients, you can end up fatigued or even lose muscle mass.   Consider adding superfoods like chia seeds or dried greens powder to your meals for an extra nutrient boost. **For more, read: [Backpacking Nutrition](https://momgoescamping.com/nutrition-backpacking-thru-hiking/).** **Also read: [Calorie-Dense Healthy Backpacking Foods](https://momgoescamping.com/calorie-dense-healthy-backpacking-foods/)** \[sta\_anchor id=”types” /\] ## Types of Backpacking Meals You’ve got four options when it comes to backpacking meals: commercial meals, supermarket foods, DIY dehydrated meals, and assembling meals from dried ingredients. Each option has its pros/cons.   Most backpackers bring a combination of all types. ### Option 1: Commercial Backpacking Meals ![freeze dried backpacking food](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/43260151375_d0b9a3b085_o.jpg "freeze dried backpacking food - Mom Goes Camping") Commercial backpacking meals usually contain freeze-dried or dehydrated ingredients which are packaged in metallic pouches. Popular brands include Mountain House, Backpacker’s Pantry and Good to Go.  New brands are popping up all the time. **Pros:** - **Easy to prepare.** Most commercial backpacking meals can be prepared simply by adding boiling water.  You can even dump the water right into the pouch, so don’t need to clean a bowl. - **Calories calculated for you.** This makes meal planning a lot easier since you don’t have to tally up each ingredient. - **Long shelf life.** Some meals have shelf lives of 5+ years so you don’t have to worry about them going bad if you are doing mail-drops for a long thru-hike. **Cons:** - **Expensive!** If you were to eat just commercial backpacking meals, you can easily spend $50 per day on food for your trip. - **Not very healthy.** Most commercial backpacking meals are loaded in sodium and preservatives. They are mostly just carbs and have little to no vegetables or real meat. - **Lack options.** While there are plenty of *brands* of backpacking meals, most have similar options. Rice and beans, mac and cheese, chili, and lasagna are all standards. If you have special dietary requirements, it can be tricky to find tasty options. **See this list of the [best freeze-dried backpacking meals](https://momgoescamping.com/best-backpacking-meals/).** **Vegans, see this list of [vegan freeze-dried backpacking meals](https://momgoescamping.com/vegan-freeze-dried-meals/).** --- ### Option 2: Instant Supermarket Meals ![supermarket backpacking food](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/4-days-backpacking-food.jpg "supermarket backpacking food - Mom Goes Camping")*4 days of backpacking food all from the supermarket* There are tons of “instant meals” and “ready meals” you can buy in the supermarket.  These include things like boxes of Mac n Cheese, couscous mixes, ramen, and instant soup.  You’ll also find foods like jerky, dried fruit, coconut flakes, and powdered milk in supermarkets.  These are great for backpacking. **Pros:** - **Affordable:** Compared to commercial backpacking meals, instant meals are a lot cheaper. - **Calories calculated for you:** Just read the label to see how many calories are in each portion. **Cons:** - **Unhealthy:** Most instant meals aren’t exactly healthy.  You mostly get carbohydrates without much in terms of protein or veggies. Expect a lot of sodium and preservatives. - **Need to Repackage:** You will probably need to repackage the instant meals so they are easier to carry in your pack. You may also need to measure out portion sizes. \***See this list of [backpacking meals from supermarket foods](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-supermarket-foods/).** --- ### Option 3: DIY Dehdyrated Backpacking Meals ![dehydrated vegan backpacking meals](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/DSCF5029.jpg "dehydrated vegan backpacking meals - Mom Goes Camping")*Dehydrated backpacking meals* I use my dehydrator to dry entire meals (**[get my recipes ebook here for 50% off](https://gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck/50off)!**).  For example, I will make a massive pot of quinoa chili with tons of spices.  I’ll eat some for dinner that night and the rest goes on the dehydrator to be dried for the trail. **Pros:** - **Cheap:** This is by far the cheapest option for backpacking meals, especially if you opt for affordable ingredients in your meals. - **Endless options:** While some foods don’t dehydrate well, there are still tons of options.  You can make stellar meals that you absolutely love, even if you have dietary restrictions. - **Easy to prepare:** Most dehydrated meals can be prepared with the cold-soak method.  Simply add water and wait a few minutes and you’ve got a meal. - **Healthier:** It’s possible to dehydrate entire healthy meals or things lik quinoa, beans, vegetables… There’s no need to add preservatives and put in as much salt as you want. - **Calorie-dense:** A lot of my dehydrated backpacking meals come in at 140 calories per ounce.  This means your pack ends up much lighter. **Cons:** - **Lots of prep:** Depending on how elaborate you get with meals, dehydrating can be a lot of prep. - **Calorie counting:** If you want to be precise about your calorie counts, you’ll need to tally up the calories EVERY INGREDIENT you put in the meal before dehydrating it.  You’ll end up doing lots of searches like “calories in 1tbsp of oil”. - **Need to repackage:** For short trips, you can just put dehydrated meals in zip baggies.  For long thru-hikes, you may need to vacuum seal them. --- ### Option 4: DIY Meals with the “Assembly” Method ![backpacking DIY meals](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/14159406120_e0ee1e6685_k.jpg "backpacking DIY meals - Mom Goes Camping")*Instant soup with tortillas and freeze dried veggies added in* You can also make your own backpacking meals by combinging dry foods with supermarket foods. For example, I dehydrate cooked vegetables and tofu then I add these to ramen to get a more nutritious meal.  Or you could buy some freeze-dried meat to add to instant mashed potatoes and gravy from the supermarket. **Also read:** [How to Make Backpacking Meals from Bulk Dried Ingredients](https://momgoescamping.com/diy-freeze-dried-backpacking-mealss/) **Pros:** - **Cheaper:** If you don’t feel like dehydrating, you can buy freeze-dried ingredients in bulky. It ends up much cheaper than buying individual freeze dried meals. - **Lots of options:** You can assemble various meals to your personal taste and dietary preferences. - **Healthier:** You can boost supermarket foods with dried healthy add-ins to make a more nutritious meal. **Cons:** - **Lots of baggies and pots:** If the ingredients in your assembled meal do not rehydrate/cook at the same rate, you will need to keep them separate *or* prepare them in separate pots. For example, first you would rehydrate freeze-dried meat and then add instant mashed potato flakes.  If you add them at the same time, the potatoes would be done before the meat got soft. - **Calorie counting:** While not as tricky as with dehydrated meals, you’ll still have to tally up the calories in all the ingredients. --- \[sta\_anchor id=”planning” /\] ## **Planning Backpacking Meals** While it can be a pain to do, it’s incredibly important that you make a detailed plan of what you will eat during the backpacking trip. Without a plan, you can end up with too little food and feel hungry.  Or you may end up packing too much food, which means your pack is unnecessarily heavy and you have to deal with food waste while on the trail.  Not fun! **Meal planning can be broken down into three steps:** ### 1. Calculate How Much Food to Bring No one wants to end up hungry while backpacking!  But you also don’t want to bring too much food because you will have to carry it for the trip.  So, you will want to carefully calculate how much food you need to bring.  This can vary drastically depending on factors like your activity level, body size, how cold it is… As a general rule though, you’ll want to bring about 2,500 to 3,500 calories per day on a 3-season backpacking trip, which should come out to approximately 2lbs of food per day. **For more detail, read: [How Much Food to Bring Backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/how-much-food-bring-backpacking-calculator/)** ### 2. Decide Preparation Method There are three options when it comes to preparing backpacking meals: cooking, no-cook, and cold-soak meals. - **Cooked meals:** These are arguably the most enjoyable. However, you’ll also need to bring a stove, fuel and pot. It takes time to cook the meal and do cleanup. A lot of backpackers simply don’t want to bother with this, so will opt for no-cook meals instead. - **No-cook meals:** These can be something simple like a breakfast shake or protein bar.  However, you can also combine ingredients to make exciting meals, such as packaged tuna and olives on a bagel. - **Cold-soak meals:** Cold soaking is a prep method which involves pouring water over the mea and waiting for it to rehydrate.  This is more enjoyable than eating just dry foods, but doesn’t require you to actually do any cooking.  You can even rehydrate as you hike and cleanup can be a lot easier. For more, read: [Guide to Cold Soak Backpacking Meals](https://momgoescamping.com/cold-soak-backpacking-meals/) Most backpackers will use a combination of these preparation methods.  For example, they opt for a no-cook breakfast like a protein bar, a bagel with cold-soaked hummus spread for lunch, and a cooked dinner. ### 3. Make a Meal Plan Now you are ready to make a meal plan.  There are a lot of ways to do this (I usually just scribble one on paper for short trips), but you’ll probably need to make a spreadsheet. Your meal plan needs to include EVERYTHING you will eat each day for the entire trip.  Ideally it will include calorie amounts too Yes, this is a major pain the first time you do it.  But I promise you it gets easier! Below is an example of a meal plan for a 4-day backpacking trip.  It breaks down to approximately 4,100 calories per day. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/backpacking-meal-plan-4100-calories-per-day-two-people-with-weight-1014x1024.jpg "backpacking meal plan 4100 calories per day two people with weight - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/backpacking-meal-plan-4100-calories-per-day-two-people-with-weight.jpg) **See more [Backpacking Meal Plan Examples](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-meal-plans/) here** \[sta\_anchor id=”meal-ideas” /\] ## Backpacking Meal Ideas Below are some ideas for backpacking foods for breakfast, lunch, dinner, and snacks.  I’ve also included tips on what kind of foods work best for these meals so you have a good trip. For more, see this post with [29 Backpacking Meal Ideas](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-meal-ideas/) \[sta\_anchor id=”breakfast” /\] ### Breakfast - Freeze-dried scrambled eggs with tortillas - Granola with powdered milk - Oatmeal with nuts and/or dried fruit - Bagels with honey or jam pouches - Instant breakfast shakes - Pop Tarts ![vegan backpacking breakfast](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/DSCF2092-min.jpg "vegan backpacking breakfast - Mom Goes Camping")*Oatmeal with dried apricots coconut flakes hazelnuts and ginger* ![vegan pancakes for backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/DSCF3628-1.jpg "vegan pancakes - Mom Goes Camping")Dehydrated pancakes rehydrated in powdered milk ### Lunch - Bagel with peanut butter and jelly - Tortillas with salami and cheese - Fritos in instant hummus mix - English muffin with tuna from a pouch - Crackers and instant hummus mix ![vegan pea dip on bagel for backpacking lunch](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/DX306362-min-1.jpg "DX306362-min - Mom Goes Camping")*Bagel with bean dip from dehydrated for a quick healthy lunch* ### Dinner - Instant tabouli + dried refried bean mix - Instant rice + salami - Ramen + peanut butter + soy sauce packets - Pasta + instant sauce + TVP - Couscous + dried falafel mix - Instant soup + croutons - Mac and cheese + freeze dried chicken ![tabouli backpacking food](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/tabouli-backpacking-food.jpg "tabouli backpacking food - Mom Goes Camping")Tabouli with refried beans from instant mix **What do you eat while backpacking? Let us know any tips or recipes you have in the comments section below.** --- ###### Image credits: “[Camping](https://www.flickr.com/photos/olitaillon/14159406120/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [O.Taillon](https://www.flickr.com/people/olitaillon/) “[Hiker Food for 4 days](https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikeriders/14611552561/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Gronkca](https://www.flickr.com/people/bikeriders/) “[Places I’d rather be](https://www.flickr.com/photos/taspicsvns/34551884295/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [In Memoriam: VernsPics](https://www.flickr.com/people/taspicsvns/) “[Dinner time](https://www.flickr.com/photos/tarnie/5713593185/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [Tarnie](https://www.flickr.com/people/tarnie/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Backpacking, Camping & Backpacking Food **Tags:** food, meals --- ### [Review of the Morrison Little Mo Sleeping Bag for Babies](https://momgoescamping.com/morrison-baby-sleeping-bag/) **Published:** October 22, 2019 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Just a few years ago, there weren’t any camping sleeping bags for babies available.  *Not even one*.  This obviously made it really difficult to go camping or backpacking with a baby. Frustrated by the lack of choices, an outdoorsy couple decided to make a sleeping bag for their baby.  That’s how the Morrison baby sleeping bag came to be. **\*\*\*Use discount code Momgoescamping at checkout to get 10% off!\*\*\*** ## What is the Morrison Sleeping Bag? ![morrison sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/morrison-sleeping-bag.jpg "morrison sleeping bag - Mom Goes Camping") The Little Mo (named after the creators’ child, Morrison) is an adjustable bag sleeping bag for outdoor use.  It designed for camping *and* backpacking trips with your baby or toddler. I personally love the Little Mo sleeping bag.  First off, the sleeping bag is really well designed and high-quality.  Second, the company is awesome.  They donate a percentage of sales to charities doing good work. They also have recently partnered with Rerouted Co-Op for a [trade-in program](https://morrisonoutdoors.com/pages/trade-in-your-gear-with-re-routed-co-op?aff=3): **When your baby outgrows the Little Mo sleeping bag, you can get cash-back for it PLUS a discount code for the toddler size bag** (which will be available starting in May 2020).   The used Little Mo bags will be cleaned and sold at a discount with a portion of every sale going to HikeItBaby. There are two versions of the Little Mo sleeping bag: 20F and 40F.  Below are some quick facts about each version of the sleeping bag plus more detailed reviews and FAQs. [**Buy the Morrison baby sleeping bag here**](https://momgoescamping.com/morrison-down) **(Remember to use code Momgoescamping at checkout to get 10% off!\*\*\*** ## Little Mo 20F Sleeping Bag ![Morrison sleeping bag opened](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/20f-bag-opened.jpg "20f bag opened - Mom Goes Camping") As the name implies, this version of the Morrison sleeping bag is good down to 20F.  Yes, you will sleep better knowing that your child is warm and toasty even as the temperature drops at night. **Quick Facts:** - Good down to 20F (-7C) - Made of 800 fill power down - Weighs 9oz - Water-resistant ripstop nylon outer - Draft tube - Built-in foot box - Covered hands - Reverse zipper – opens from bottom - YKK#5 zipper - Machine washable - Adjustable for ages 6-24 months - [**Buy Here**](https://momgoescamping.com/morrison-down) ### **800 Fill Power Down** ![Morrison 20F baby sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/IMG_20181115_143401.jpg "IMG_20181115_143401 - Mom Goes Camping")*Im toasty warm even with snow on the ground* The 20F Morrison sleeping bag is made from down with 800 fill power.  Let’s break down what that means… Fill power is a measurement of the *quality* of the down used. The technical definition is the “measurement of the amount of space one ounce of down will occupy in cubic inches when allowed to reach its maximum loft.” [1](https://www.downandfeathercompany.com/pages/how-to-choose-fill-power) Down works by trapping air between its filaments.  The trapped air is actually what insulates against the cold and keeps body heat from escaping. Not all down is created equal though.   Fluffier down will be able to trap more air, even when there is less of it.  Thus, good-quality down will keep you warm while still being very compact and lightweight. In a nutshell, **higher down power = more air trapped = a warmer sleeping bag.** Where does 800 down fill power stand?  REI states that “900 fill power is about as good as down gets.”  By comparison, low-quality down is considered anything below 500 fill power. [2 ](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fblog%2Fsnowsports%2Fwhat-is-down-fill-power%3Fdoing_wp_cron%3D1571729884.0300340652465820312500) **Important!** Don’t forget that down has to be lofted (fluffed) in order to insulate!  Always fluff up the Morrison down sleeping bag before putting your baby inside.  Otherwise the down will be compressed and won’t be warm. ### **Down Weight** If you know your facts about down, then you also know it isn’t just about fill power.  It’s also about how much (down weight) was used to make the product.  For example, a sleeping bag with 12oz of 400 fill-power down will be just as warm as a bag with 6oz of 800 fill-power down. The second bag will be lighter and more compact though. Morrison doesn’t list the actual weight of their down.  However, since the bag is 9oz, we can assume that approximately 7.5oz of that weight is likely to be down. I compared this to adult down sleeping bags also rated to 20F.  Most of them had fill weights of around 12oz to 20oz.  Considering that adult bags are more than twice the size of the Morrison baby sleeping bag, it’s clear that Morrison hasn’t skimped on the amount of down in the baby sleeping bag!  [3](https://expertworldtravel.com/down-fill-ratings/#tab-con-1) **Note:** Even with the 20F Little Mo bag, your baby is going to need a sleeping pad in order to stay warm.  Otherwise the ground will literally suck the heat out of the body. For colder weather, I’d recommend something like the [insulated Klymit Static V](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DKlymit%2BStatic%2BV%26pagesize%3D90) (R-value 4.4; 25oz) or the [Therm-a-Rest Z Lite Sol](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dz%2Blite%26pagesize%3D90) (fold in half to get an R-value of 4; weighs 14oz). ### **Size and Weight** Having a high power down also means that the Little Mo sleeping bag can be lighter weight and compact.  It is only 9oz and packs down tiny – not much bigger than a Nalgene-style water bottle.  As a mom who ends up carrying pretty much all of our gear on backpacking trips (my husband has a physical disability), every ounce and bit of space in my pack matters!!! ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/morrison-bag-sizes.jpg "morrison bag sizes - Mom Goes Camping")*The Morrison 40F sleeping bag is on the left The 20F down bag is on the right Its compact* ### **Morrison Sleeping Bag in Real-World Use** The Little Mo 20F has a bunch of features to make it practical for real-world use, whether for camping or backpacking trips with a baby.  The reverse zipper means you can do diaper changes without having to completely remove your child. The foot box keeps your baby’s toes warm, and the draft tube around the zipper means that heat isn’t lost through the zipper. ### Downsides of the Morrison Sleeping Bag One bad thing to note about the Morrison baby sleeping bag.  First, the sleeves are a bit narrow.  Since the sleeves are closed at the end, you can’t even reach inside the sleeve to help your baby’s arms get through.  This is slightly annoying. A few parents also said that they’d prefer a sleeping bag with features like removable sleeves.  Yes, this feature is useful.  However, it would mean that heat would escape through the arm attachment area — so the sleeping bag wouldn’t be nearly as warm.  It’s a tradeoff between functionality and warmth. ![baby in Morrison sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/oS436bNN.jpeg-1.jpg "baby in Morrison sleeping bag - Mom Goes Camping")*Look Ma no hands* #### **Price** Down products are pricy – especially when a good quality down (high fill power) is used.  At the time of writing, the Little Mo 20F costs $159.95.   To give you an idea, comparable adult down sleeping bags cost $350 to $600. **\*You can buy the 20F Morrison sleeping bag [here](https://momgoescamping.com/morrison-down)\*** ## [The Little Mo 40F Sleeping Bag](https://momgoescamping.com/morrison-synthetic) The Little Mo 40F has a lot of the same features as the 20F bag (like the built-in footbox and draft tube) so I won’t rehash those details. The main thing you need to know is that it is made from synthetics and thus is a bit heavier, larger, and only suitable for milder nights.  On the plus side, the 40F bag is more affordable.  It currently costs $84. **\*Starting in May 2020, the 40F bag will also feature cuffs on sleeves with a fold-over flap, so you’ll have the option of letting your kids hands free.  This feature is only on the 40F bag.** #### **Quick Facts:** - Good down to 40F - Made with synthetic polyester fiber insulation - Weighs 16.2oz - Water-resistant ripstop nylon outer - [**Buy Here**](https://momgoescamping.com/morrison-synthetic) ## Which Version of the Little Mo Sleeping Bag to Get? Before you take your baby camping, please take the time to calculate the nighttime temperatures of where you are going!  (If you are the type who already does this, kudos to you). It can be hard to find temperature forecasts for the tops of mountains.  So, use this formula: **For every 1000 feet in elevation you gain, the temperature will drop about 5.4F** (or 9.8C for every 1000 *meters* of elevation). Even in summer, it can get really cold at night. At Yellowstone, for example, the summer temperatures can go from the 70s during the day to below freezing at night.  Read more on [how cold is too cold for tent camping](https://momgoescamping.com/how-cold-is-too-cold-for-tent-camping/). If you wanted to save money, you could get the more affordable 40F Morrison sleeping bag.  However, you’ll need to dress your child in more layers – preferably warm, breathable layers made from Merino wool.  These layers can be pretty pricy too but you’ll obviously get more use out of them. **The bottom line? If you camp frequently in cold weather, make your life easier by getting the warmer 20F Morrison sleeping bag.** ### Tip: Avoid the Urge to Overdress Your Baby I made this mistake on our first cold-weather camping trip with my baby.  Because I was worried that she would be cold, I put her in a zillion layers.  She ended up getting all sweaty.  Sweat = wet = evaporation = cold.  :/ At that point, I wasn’t sure what to do: undress her so she’d stop sweating, or keep the layers on because she was so wet.   It was a terrible night with her waking up a gadzillion times. ## FAQs about Morrison Baby Sleeping Bags ### **Can the Morrison Bag be used with infants?** When the Morrison baby sleeping bag first came out, the company said it was suitable for 3 months to 24 months.  They’ve since updated the sizing to 6 months.   For safety reasons, I can’t advise you to use the sleeping bag with children under 6 months.  However, I did see photos where infants (like the one below) were in the Morrison sleeping bags.  There are snaps so you can wrap the sleeves around the bag so it fits them better. ![infant in Morrison sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/infant-in-little-mo-bag.jpg "infant in little mo bag - Mom Goes Camping")*This baby definitely isnt 6 months old* ### **Can it be used with a hiking child carrier?** No. The Morrison sleeping bag doesn’t have separated legs, so your baby won’t be able to wear it while in a hiking carrier.  You should use a snow suit or something similar instead. ### **Can it be used in strollers?** Kind of.  There’s no way to bring the stroller strap between the legs, so you’ll have to strap your child in from the side. Of course, I can’t recommend that you ever use baby gear in a way other than instructed (don’t sue me if your baby squirms out! 😉 ). ![Morrison baby sleeping bag in a stroller](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/in-stroller-pic-copy-1.jpg "in stroller pic - Mom Goes Camping") ### **How do you adjust the sleeping bag?** There are little snaps on the sleeping bag.  The snaps let you roll up the bottom so it fits your baby’s length.  You can also snap the sleeves around the baby if your baby is really little. ### **What happens if there are diaper explosions?** Speaking from experience, I’d advise you to put a liner of some kind in the sleeping bag (you can even spread out diapers under your baby in the sleeping bag, or use a folded towel or similar).  This will help catch any leaks. If the Morrison sleeping bag does get wet though, you should try to blot out as much as you can.  Both versions of the sleeping bag dry quickly.  At home, you can machine wash the bag (even the 20F down bag is machine washable!). ### **Are there any other options other than the Little Mo sleeping bag for babies?** Yes, but the Little Mo is the only sleeping bag for cold weather.  There are options, like the [BabyDeeDee sleeping bag](https://www.babydeedee.com/?rfsn=2817540.21ff00) (good to about 50F), sleeping sacks, co-sleeping, and dressing your baby in layers.  For more on that, read my [guide to baby sleeping bags for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/best-baby-sleeping-bags-camping/). \*[**Get the Morrison Baby Sleeping Bag Here**](https://momgoescamping.com/morrison-down)\* ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** babies, sleeping bag --- ### [The Best Portable Solar Chargers for Camping (15W to 100W)](https://momgoescamping.com/best-portable-solar-chargers/) **Published:** July 25, 2017 **Author:** Diane **Content:** While I’m a big fan of digital detoxing, there are plenty of good reasons to bring a portable solar panel camping, like being able to charge devices, photo equipment or even your laptop so you can work remotely while enjoying the outdoors. There are a lot of options when it comes to solar panel chargers. In choosing the best solar chargers for camping, I only included ones which fit these requirements: - **15 to 100 watts:** Anything less than 15 watts won’t keep you reliably powered. And chargers larger than 100W aren’t very portable and are better suited for RVs. - **Portable:** Don’t need to be mounted, are light enough to carry around camp and will easily fit in your car. - **USB out ports:** So you can directly charge phones, tablets and other small devices without conversion cables. - **Durable:** Ideally waterproof and able to handle falling over in bad conditions. - **Extra features:** Like being chainable or compatible with power stations. ## Top Picks: - **Best Overall: [Goal Zero Nomad 50](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B085LS66LN/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B085LS66LN&linkId=a6e52d14eefad5d9a3e6c36b378e6a1f)** - **Runner Up: [Jackery SolarSaga 60W](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PGS2WN8/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07PGS2WN8&linkId=64330243ceeadb8533f5c3e239c3ed25) or [100W](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07Q71LX84/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07Q71LX84&linkId=1a802eb2fd5444fa2ae85b3696695699)** - **Best Small Solar Charger: [Anker PowerPort 15W](https://amzn.to/3O6Pzrj)** - **Best Budget Pick:** [**BigBlue 100W**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CG7WZ7Q/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07CG7WZ7Q&linkId=10180840b4d4dab19519656c254ceafe) ## Comparison Table \*Note that the price-per-watt was based on prices at time of writing.  Prices may change! \[table id=47 /\] ## Best Portable Camping Solar Panels ### 1. Anker 15W PowerPort Solar Panel [![Anker PowerPort 21 portable solar charger](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/anker.jpg "anker - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/anker.jpg) **Verdict:** Choose if you need a lightweight solar panel for occassionally charging small devices #### Specs: - **Panel Type:** Monocrystalline - **Weight:** 12.5oz - **Folded Size:** 11 x 6.3 inches - **Open Size:** 18.1 x 11 inches - **Outlets:** 2x USB-A (2.1A each, 2.1A max) - **Chainable:** No - **Available At:** [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3O6Pzrj) #### Review: The Anker PowerPort is my top pick for [ultralight backpacking solar panels](https://momgoescamping.com/best-ultralight-solar-panels/).  It is just 12.5oz, which means it has 1.2 watts per ounce.  Few portable solar panels come close to offering that much power per weight. While 15W is too low for campers who want to charge laptops or even tablets, it’s just right for keeping your phone, Kindle, or other small devices topped off during occasional use.  You’ll probably want to use a power bank as it’s more reliable than direct charging. There are grommets so you can hang it from a tent, your car, backpack, etc. to capture sunlight. It is designed in a way so the solar panel folds down quite compact but still delivers enough surface area for capturing sunlight.  There are smart built-in features like auto-reset so you don’t have to worry about the charger stopping because of passing clouds. There’s also a blocking diode so the charge won’t drain your batteries instead of charging them in low-light situations. The brand Anker is also highly reputable and known for producing quality power banks and other portable power solutions. If you pair this solar panel with a [lightweight power bank](https://momgoescamping.com/best-backpacking-power-banks/), you will have a very efficient, lightweight solar setup for camping or backpacking. **Pros:** - High quality solar panel - Lightweight setup - Very portable - Auto reset and blocking diode **Cons:** - Only USB-A outlets - Not great at trickle charging **Check Price At [Amazon](https://amzn.to/3O6Pzrj)** --- ### 2. Goal Zero Nomad 50 [![Goal Zero Nomad solar panels for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/goal-zero-nomad-50.jpg "goal zero nomad 50 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/goal-zero-nomad-50.jpg) **Verdict:** Still the best camping solar panel but has a very high price-per-watt #### Specs: - **Panel Type:** Monocrystalline - **Weight:** 6.85lbs - **Folded Size:** 17 x 11.25 x 2.5 inches - **Open Size:** 53 x 17 x 1.5 inches - **Outlets:** USB-A (5V, 2.4amp) and 8mm (14-22V, 3.5A) - **Chainable:** Yes - **Available At:** [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B085LS66LN/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B085LS66LN&linkId=a6e52d14eefad5d9a3e6c36b378e6a1f), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fb%2Fgoal-zero%2Fc%2Fsolar-and-portable-power%3Fpagesize%3D90) #### Review: Goal Zero is by far the leader when it comes to portable solar chargers and panels.  They make various types. Their small wattage chargers honestly aren’t great compared to the competition.  However, their 50W solar charger is perfect for camping. The Nomad 50W has USB-A ports (5V, 2.4A) *and* a solar port (blue, 8mm, male).  The solar port allows you to charge a power station. Note the Nomad 100W does NOT have a USB out port.  Since the Nomad 50W chargers can be chained together (they can also be chained with the Nomad 100W or Boulder 100W).  Even with cables, it almost costs the same two buy two Nomad 50s as one Nomad 100.  Thus, I’d go with the Nomad 50 even if you think you might need more power later on. As for performance, the Goal Zero consistently does well on tests.   They also are also very good at handling the elements.  Several people have reported that the glue turns liquid in high heat, but not enough for the charger to come apart. **Pros:** - Very reliable brand - High-quality panels - Rugged build - Lightweight and compact for its class - Mostly waterproof - Can chain them with other Goal Zero panels **Cons:** - Pricier than lesser-known brands - Stupidly popular; the 50W panels are often out of stock - No USB-C outlet **Check Price at [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B085LS66LN/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B085LS66LN&linkId=a6e52d14eefad5d9a3e6c36b378e6a1f) and** [**REI**](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dgoal%2Bzero%2Bnomad%2B50) --- ### 3. Jackery SolarSaga (60W and 100W) ![jackery solarsaga 60 portable solar charger](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/jackery-solarsaga-60-portable-solar-charger.jpg "jackery solarsaga 60 portable solar charger - Mom Goes Camping") **Verdict:** All-around great solar panel for camping that is a fraction of the cost of Goal Zero #### Specs(for 60w solar panel): - **Panel Type:** Monocrystalline - **Weight:** 6.6lbs - **Folded Size:** 16.8 x 11.4 inches - **Open Size:** 35.2 x 16.8 x 0.2 inches - **Outlets:** USB-A (5V, 2.4amp), USB-C (5V, 3amp) and DC Output (22V, 3.09A, 68W) - **Chainable:** Up to 2 panels parallel - **Available At:** [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PGS2WN8/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07PGS2WN8&linkId=64330243ceeadb8533f5c3e239c3ed25) #### Review: Jackery released the SolarSaga in 2020 to compete with the Goal Zero Nomad panels. They are available in 60, 100 and 200 watt sizes. Like the Nomad, the SolarSaga series are designed to be portable.  They have a really nice folding design with a built-in rubberized orange handle.  It looks sleek and professional and the hinges between the panels feels sturdy. There are two USB outlets so you can directly charge devices simultaneously. One of the ports is USB-C, which means you can get a faster charge. As for the DV outlet: The 60W has an Anderson connection and includes an Anderson-to-8mm cable to be used with the Jackery power station.  Their 8mm cable isn’t the same as the Goal Zero cable; it doesn’t fit well in the Yeti power station.  If you want to charge a Yeti with the SolarSaga, then you’ll need to get Goal Zero’s adapter cable. On the Gen 3 update, Jackery got rid of the Anderson on the SolarSaga 100W.  Now it has an 8mmm adapter. While the ultralight design is appealing for portability, it does mean the SolarSaga panels aren’t that durable or tough.  You won’t want to leave them unattended; even a slight breeze could send them toppling over. They are water-resistant to IP65, so don’t leave them in the rain either. #### How Does It Compare to Goal Zero Solar Chargers? Compared to the Goal Zero Nomad solar panels, Jackery’s SolarSaga panels are much lighter and thinner. They are half the weight and a fraction of the thickness (2.5 inches compared to 0.2 inches!).  There is a built-in kickstand which can be adjusted to preset angles. Another plus is that the SolarSaga chargers support USB-C whereas Goal Zero does not. While Jackery solar chargers do perform well, the technology doesn’t seem to be as good as with Goal Zero.  Some users have reported issues with the blocking diodes: in low light, the SolarSaga actually *drained* device batteries instead of charging them. **Pros:** - Very lightweight and compact - USB-A and USB-C ports - Built-in adjustable kickstand - Rubberized carrying cable - Comes with adapters **Cons:** - Not very waterproof - Easily toppled by wind - Not compatible with all power stations **[Get the 60W Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PGS2WN8/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07PGS2WN8&linkId=64330243ceeadb8533f5c3e239c3ed25) and [100W Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07Q71LX84/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07Q71LX84&linkId=1a802eb2fd5444fa2ae85b3696695699)** --- ### 4. Renogy E. Flex 50W ![Renogy E Flex 50W portable solar charger for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/renogy.jpg "renogy - Mom Goes Camping") **Verdict:** Despite some performance issues, it’s still a great value and does its job well enough #### Specs: - **Panel Type:** Monocrystalline - **Weight:** 5.25lbs - **Folded Size:** 19.9 x 16.1 x 0.8 inch - **Open Size:** 32.5 x 19.9 x 0.2 inch - **Outlets:** USB A (5V, 2.4amp), USB-C (5V, 3amp), switchable DC (19V/2.4amp and 16V/2.8amp) and solar connector output (18V, 2.77amp) - **Chainable:** Yes - **Available At:** [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08HRJSN4J/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08HRJSN4J&linkId=73b09c5be07b4a9c71da68048706abfb) #### Review: Renogy is well known for their affordable solar panels. Most of the Renogy solar panels are not very portable.  However, their E. Flex panels are the exception.  In particular, their 21, 30 and 50 watt solar panels are portable and light enough to use at camp.  Because of some performance issues (they don’t seem to be as efficient as Goal Zero or Jackery), you’ll definitely want to get the higher wattage version. Before buying this solar charger, make sure it is compatible with your devices.  Even though it has an USB-C port, it *won’t* charge USB-C laptops.  You can only charge laptops with 16V or 19V. The E. Flex 50W does have auto-reset, so you don’t have to worry that the charging will stop if a cloud passes overhead.  However, some users did report problems with it and had to unplug/replug devices to get them charging again. Likewise, it doesn’t do great at charging multiple devices at once because of amp drops. **Pros:** - Affordable - Easy to use - Good built-in features - Built-in kickstand **Cons:** - Some issues with the auto reset feature - Not great at charging multiple devices simultaneously **Check Price At [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08HRJSN4J/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08HRJSN4J&linkId=73b09c5be07b4a9c71da68048706abfb)** --- ### 5. RockPals Portable Solar Panel 60W and 100W ![rockpals 100w solar charger](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/rockpals-100w-solar-charger.jpg "rockpals 100w solar charger - Mom Goes Camping") **Verdict:** Okay choice if you will monitor devices while they charge. Otherwise, spend a bit more to get a SolarSaga. **Specs (for 60W Upgrade):** - **Panel Type:** Monocrystalline - **Weight:** 7.3lbs - **Folded Size:** 13.8 x 13.39 x 2.36 inches - **Open Size:** 58.2 x 13.8 x 0.2 inches - **Outlets:** 1x USB QC3.0 (3.3A), 1x USB-C (18W max), DC 18V/3.3A - **Chainable:** Yes - **Available At: [Amazon ](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079DNGBQN/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B079DNGBQN&linkId=4c16845b6547320e8f09b033025a70f2)** #### Review: At first glance, RockPals solar chargers look great.  They are very popular and get good reviews. The RockPals chargers also have multiple charging options, including USB-C, and are compatible with most power stations. Yet, there is a reason that RockPals solar chargers are cheaper than brands like Jackery and Goal Zero: they tech isn’t nearly as good. The main issue is that RockPals chargers don’t have a blocking diode.  This means the solar charger could actually cause your device battery to drain instead of charge. Trickle charging is almost impossible because of this. Another issue is that the RockPals solar chargers don’t withstand high temperatures as well as some other camping solar panels.  It has a max operating temperature of 120F.   The panel can easily reach that temperature in summer, so you’ll need to place a white cloth (or similar) underneath the panel to reduce heat absorption into the panel. **Pros:** - Compact 4-fold design - Quality panel - Comes with adapters **Cons:** - Overheats easily - Not chainable - No blocking diode **[Get the 60W Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079DNGBQN/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B079DNGBQN&linkId=4c16845b6547320e8f09b033025a70f2) at [100W Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FH85FW9/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07FH85FW9&linkId=6aeac66f90bd72cc275d1cae8c1233a0)** --- ### 6. TogoPower 60W and 100W ![TogoPower 60W solar panel](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/togopower-60w.jpg "togopower 60w - Mom Goes Camping") **Verdict:** Good choice if you are on a tight budget and know which cables you need #### Specs (for 60W panel): - **Panel Type:** Monocrystalline - **Weight:** 6.5lbs - **Folded Size:** 16×14.5×1.9″ - **Open Size:** 50.7 x 16 x 1 inches - **Outlets:** USB QC3.0 (5-12V 3.4A max), USB-C (5-15V, 4.5A max), DC (18V/5.5A max) - **Chainable:** Yes - **Available At:** [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B087TG41Y4/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B087TG41Y4&linkId=9e64beaa75011bb6b201362f292c13ae) #### Review: Togo is a Chinese brand which makes cheap solar panels.  I’m wary of buying from no-name Chinese brands but Togo is one which actually is of a good quality. Of course you won’t get nearly as much efficiency as the most popular brands, but it’s pretty good for a cheap solar charger. My main complaint about the TogoPower for camping is that it is very bulky. It only folds three times so it won’t fit in a backpack.  You’ll have to carry it along your side like a briefcase. Also be warned that the Togo Power chargers don’t come with all of the cables you need.  There may also be compatibility issues.  Make sure you check if it will work with your power station and that you have the right cables. **Pros:** - Very affordable - Durable materials and zippered pocket - Two kickstands **Cons:** - Bulky even when folded - Not compatible with all power stations - Doesn’t include all cables **[Get the 60W Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B087TG41Y4/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B087TG41Y4&linkId=9e64beaa75011bb6b201362f292c13ae) and [100W Here](https://amzn.to/34McwdX)** --- ### 7. TopSolar SolaryFairy 100W [![TP-Solar 60W folding solar panel](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/tp-solar-60w-folding.jpg "tp solar 60w folding - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/tp-solar-60w-folding.jpg) **Verdict:** Okay if you primarily care about price and don’t mind some glitches and compatibility issues Specs: - **Panel Type:** Monocrystalline - **Weight:** 5.1lbs - **Folded Size:** 11.2×7.8×2.3″ - **Open Size:** 52 x 22.4” - **Outlets:** USB-A 5V/3A max, USB-C PD 5V/3A max, DC 19V, DC 14.4V - **Chainable:** No - **Available At: [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07ZZ8VY2V/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07ZZ8VY2V&linkId=7506bb5a5529863839762e9b0cea4865)** #### Review: The TP-Solar chargers come in various sizes. Their 100W solar charger is great for camping because it folds down into a very compact package.  It’s one of the few camping solar panels of this wattage that can easily fit in a daypack. The downside of the compact size is that the charger has a lot of hinges. Hinges are often a fail point for folding solar panels, so it might not survive extensive use. One of the benefits of the SolarFairy charger is that it has four out ports for charging multiple devices, including car or boat batteries.  It also supports USB-C PD charging devices.  The downside is that the tech behind the solar charger can be a bit glitchy. Some users reported issues with the auto-rest (if a cloud passes over, the SolarFairy might not start charging again without you resetting it). There are also several compatibility issues: it won’t work with all laptops or Goal Zero power stations.  You can usually work around this by buying the right adapters yourself though. **Pros:** - Very compact when folded - Affordable - Lots of charging options - Actually works with car and boat batteries **Cons:** - Tech can be glitchy - Might not survive extensive use **[Get It Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07ZZ8VY2V/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07ZZ8VY2V&linkId=7506bb5a5529863839762e9b0cea4865)** --- ### 7. BigBlue Solar Chargers ![BigBlue Solar chargers for camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/bigblue-100w.jpg "bigblue 100w - Mom Goes Camping") #### **Specs (for 100W charger):** - **Panel Type:** Monocrystalline - **Weight:** 8.8lbs - **Folded Size:** 15.16×8.23×3.15″ - **Outlets:** 2x USB-A (5V, 4.8A total), DC 12-19V, PD Type-C 60W - **Chainable:** Yes - **Available At:** [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CG7WZ7Q/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07CG7WZ7Q&linkId=10180840b4d4dab19519656c254ceafe) #### Review: BigBlue solar chargers come in various sizes.  The best ones for camping trips are: 42w, 63w and 100w.  When you break down the cost-per-watt, BigBlue actually is one of the cheapest solar chargers available.  The 100W charger is an insanely good value and costs almost half the price of the Jackery SolarSaga 100W. All of the larger wattage BigBlue solar chargers are feature-rich.  The tech prevents overheating, supports fast charging, and works even in cloudy weather.  They also have multiple out ports (which vary depending on the wattage of the product).  Make sure you check the features before you buy!!! While it isn’t recommended, you can use the larger BigBlue chargers to charge a car battery (according to the company though, it’s better to just use it for jump starting). It is possible to chain multiple BigBlue solar chargers together.  You’ll need an MC4 cable which doesn’t come with the kit. I’d recommend getting the BigBlue 100W as it is the best value and compatible with the most devices.  The 28W charger is good if you only want to charge small devices like phones on camping trips. \*I do NOT recommend the 28W BigBlue solar charger. It does not have a blocking diode, which means it will drain batteries instead of charge them in shady conditions.  If you need a smaller solar charger, get the Anker 21W instead. #### Pros: - Smart technology - Easy to use - Compatible with most devices #### Cons: - Not waterproof - Confusing options – features aren’t the same across products! **[Get It Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CG7WZ7Q/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07CG7WZ7Q&linkId=10180840b4d4dab19519656c254ceafe)** --- ## Do You Really Need a Solar Charger when Camping? Don’t get me wrong: portable solar chargers are awesome and have come a long way.  They’ve gotten smaller, more durable, and much more reliable. *But you need to be realistic about what solar chargers can do.* You aren’t going to be able bring a small, cheap solar charger camping and expect it to keep all devices reliably charged.  In cloudy or rainy conditions, you might not be able to charge anything with solar. For this reason, a power bank or power station (which you pre-charge at home) may be a better solution for charging your devices while camping. ## What Size Solar Charger Do I Need for Camping? As a general rule, you’ll need *at least a:* - 10W solar panel to charge your smartphone - 50W to use a laptop a few hours per day - 100W  to run a small camping fridge - 300-500W to run multiple appliances throughout the day, such as a fridge, lights, game console, and other devices Note that these are just generalizations. Calculating how much solar power you need for camping is actually pretty complicated.  It will vary drastically depending on factors like the efficiency of the solar panels, how much peak light you get, and how your panels are angled. ### To calculate camping solar needs: 1. List all the devices you want to use 2. Calculate how many watts they use per hour 3. Multiply the watts by how many hours you will use the device per day 4. This gives you your watt hours per day 5. Divide the watt hours by how many hours of peak daylight you expect to get per day. 6. This is the *minimum* size in watts your solar panel setup needs to be 7. Multiply by 2-5x to account for inefficiency and to have a margin of error ### You’ll Need Battery Storage If You Want Reliable Power If you have high power needs *or* cannot let your devices die, then you will need battery storage.  For small devices, this can be a [small backpacking power bank](https://momgoescamping.com/best-backpacking-power-banks/).  For larger devices and appliances, you’ll need to invest in a power station like the [Goal Zero Yeti](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B085KRMCCY/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B085KRMCCY&linkId=7eba21ea2fc0b69829fb6d3faae5b97a). ## How to Charge Devices with Solar while Camping There are two main ways you can use portable solar panels when camping. ### Option 1: Directly Charge Devices from the Solar Panel Almost all portable solar panels have USB outlets.  To use them, you simply plug your device into the solar panel, put the solar panel in the sun, and let it charge the device. **Benefits:** The main benefit of directly charging is that it is **more efficient**. When you use the solar panel to charge a battery and then charge a device, you lose some of the power.  It’s lost through the cables, conversion, and through the battery.  By directly charging your devices, you will get the most power from the solar panel. **Downsides:** - **No way of storing power:** If you need to charge your device and it’s a cloudy day, you are out of luck. - **Compatibility:** You may not be able to directly charge some devices with certain solar chargers. - **Overheat devices:** If you don’t disconnect your device from the solar charger, it might overheat your device and damage it.  Good solar chargers have overheat protection but even this won’t completely save your devices from harm. - **Might draw power from your device!** If a device is plugged into a solar charger and there isn’t much sunlight, the charger might drain the device battery instead of charge it. Good solar chargers have a blocking diode feature which prevents power from draining out of the device. ### Option 2: Solar Panel + Power Bank or Power Station If you need a more reliable source of power, then you’ll need a battery for your solar panels.  This can be a small power bank or a large deep cyclic battery.  You connect the solar panel to the battery to let it charge.  Then you charge your devices from the battery. **Benefits:** - **Can store power for later** - **More flexibility:** You can choose the size of the battery, type of outlets, and number of outlets to suit your needs. - **Pre-charge battery:** Charge the battery at home before your camping trip so you have power when you arrive and just use solar for topping it off. **Downsides:** - **More complicated:** You may need a more complex solar setup for camping, including a regulator and invertor. - **Less Efficient:** Some power is lost when it is stored in the battery and also as it passes through the cables en route to the device. - **Power stations are expensive:** If you need to power lots of devices, you’ll need a large power station. These are not cheap. ## Solar Charger Terms Before choosing a portable solar charger for camping, you’ll need to understand the basics of power. ### Watts: Solar panels are rated in watts.  It essentially is a measure of how much power the panels are able to produce. Most portable solar panels range from 5 to 100 watts.  Anything bigger than 100 watts is probably too large to consider “portable.” Watts are calculated as Volts x Amps. #### Volts: Volts is the energy potential of the solar panel.  All USB cables run at 5 volts (thus anything that charges via USB takes 5 volts).  Laptop charger cables can be as high as 25 volts. If you were to try charging your cell phone on a 12 volt solar charger, it wouldn’t be able to handle that much electricity. You’d see sparks and melting plastic!   This is why we use invertors with high-power solar panel setups. #### Amps: The amount of electricity that can flow at once is measured in *amps.* Older cell phones will handle about 1 amp. Newer fast-charge phones will handle upwards of 2 amps. Devices which use more power (such as tablets) usually handle around 2 to 2.5 amps. Laptops might have 5 amps. Higher amperage means you can charge devices more quickly.  For example, it will take longer to charge a laptop at 1amp than at 5 amps. **Confused? A good way to think about watts, volts and amps is using a metaphor of water going through a pipe:** - Watts = total water - Volts = water pressure - Amps = size of pipe If you have high water pressure (volts) and big pipes (amps), then you are going to have a lot of water (watts) going through the pipes. #### Watt Hours Watt hours (Wh) is how much power you need over time.  It is measured as Wh = W x time in hours.  This is especially important for calculating power needs of devices you will be running frequently, like camping fridges. #### Amp Hours The amount of power a battery can hold is listed as amp hours (Ah).  It is calculated as *Ah = Wh/voltage.*  Amp hours is important because it represents the amount of power being used over time. ## Choosing a Portable Solar Panel for Camping ### Solar Charger vs. Solar Panel A solar *charger* is a solar panel which has a USB outlet.  It won’t be able to charge anything which uses 12v plugs.  By contrast, portable solar *panels* may only have a DC outlet. Many 100-200W solar panels have both USB and DC. ### Monocrystalline vs. Polycrystalline Panels Mono crystalline are considered the best type of solar panel. By comparison, poly-crystalline panels have boundaries between their crystals; these boundaries reduce efficiency. You’d need a slightly larger poly-crystalline panel to get the same power as a mono one. ### Efficiency Good brands of portable solar chargers will list their efficiency rating.  Anything above 22% is a fairly good efficiency.  Yes, just 22%.  Solar chargers will lose some efficiency over time. ### Blocking Diode A blocking diode only allows power to run in one direction.  Without a blocking diode, energy from your device battery might run towards the solar panel, causing it to drain instead of charge.  This is very important when charging in cloudy or low-light conditions. Almost all solar chargers have blocking diodes but some of the smaller or cheaper solar chargers do not. ### Price Per Watt To figure out the value of a solar charger, look at the *price per watt* instead of the overall price. Total price divided by watts = price per watt. Portable solar chargers are getting cheaper all of the time.  It used to be that $10 per watt was a good deal.  Now you can find quality portable solar chargers that cost less than $3 per watt. As a general rule, larger solar panels are cheaper per watt. Pay attention to whether the panel is monocrystalline or polycrystalline when comparing prices: poly is cheaper but not as efficient. ### Rigid vs. Flexible Solar Chargers Portable solar chargers are either rigid or flexible. As a general rule, rigid solar chargers are easier to set up but they might crack.  Flexible solar panels can withstand some bending but are harder to prop open and blow away easier. --- **Now that you’ve got power taken care of, what are you going to eat on the trail?** Check out my eBook with over 50 trail recipes and lots of info about meal planning and nutrition for backpacking.  Since you made it all the way to the end of this post, I’ll even give you [50% off](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmetasheck50off). 🙂 [![dehydrator backpacking recipes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/book-with-tablet.png "book with tablet - Mom Goes Camping")](https://gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck/50off) [**Get the ebook at 50% off here.**](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmetasheck50off) --- ###### Image credit: [Creative Edge Solar- 5 Solar Charger](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Creative_Edge_Solar-_5_Solar_Charger.JPG) by [Mcjones2003](https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Mcjones2003&action=edit&redlink=1), [Creative Commons](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Creative_Commons) [Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.en) ###### Resources for this article: <http://sciencing.com/larger-mah-number-cell-phone-battery-mean-better-battery-15015.html><https://www.researchgate.net/post/Why_must_deep-cycle_batteries_be_used_in_solar_power_systems> <https://auto.howstuffworks.com/question219.htm> https://www.centurybatteries.com.au/products/deep-cycle/car-vs-deep-cycle<http://sciencing.com/larger-mah-number-cell-phone-battery-mean-better-battery-15015.html><https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/79279/does-mah-measure-how-long-a-battery-would-last><https://www.tomsguide.com/us/smartphones-best-battery-life,review-2857.html>http://www.newelectric.com/whats-the-difference-between-amps-volts-and-watts/ <https://www.ise.fraunhofer.de/content/dam/ise/de/documents/publications/studies/Photovoltaics-Report.pdf><http://energyinformative.org/best-solar-panel-monocrystalline-polycrystalline-thin-film/#thin-film-solar-cells> <https://www.voltaicsystems.com/blog/android-smartphone-direct-solar-charging/> <https://www.selectsolargadgets.co.uk/cat/170/charing-mobile-phones-with-solar-power> <https://www.solarpaneltalk.com/forum/solar/the-pros-and-cons-of-solar-energy/19256-backpacking-need-help> ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Backpacking, Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** chargers, solar, solar chargers --- ### [Printable Camping First Aid Kit Checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-first-aid-checklist/) **Published:** December 30, 2015 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Accidents can happen anytime but are more likely when you are camping.  This is why you always need to have a complete first aid kit with you when camping.   I’ve made a printable camping first aid checklist with everything you might need. [Download the checklist here (PDF)](https://momgoescamping.com/printable-camping-first-aid-kit-checklist/).  Or keep reading to see the checklist and what the items are used for. Note this checklist is for *car camping*.  When I am going backpacking and can’t carry all of these items, I bring a paired down version.  See my [ultralight backpacking first aid kit checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-first-aid-kit-checklist/) here. ## Most Common Camping Injuries Camping isn’t dangerous per se, but you are doing a lot of tasks which you normally don’t do. Like chopping wood, or stoking a fire, or navigating tough terrain. These injuries include: - **Small cuts and scrapes** - **Burns** - **Sprained ankles** - **Major wounds**, such as from serious falls - **Broken bones** - **Overexertion** - **Hypothermia** - **Insect bites** - **Plant-based** – Poison ivy, stinging nettles, plant #### Take a first aid course! Having a camping first aid kit won’t do you much good if you don’t know how to use the items within the kit.  I strongly suggest you take a wilderness first aid course so you know what to do if something bad occurs.  Don’t rely on the campground staff or park rangers to be there to help! If you can’t sign up for a course now, then I suggest getting [this book](https://amzn.to/389seQA). It goes over basic and advanced first aid in wilderness situations.  You’ll learn skills like how to stop bleeding, treat hypothermia, splint a broken bone, and more. ## Don’t Forget about a First Aid Kit for Day Hikes ![backpacking first aid kit organized in baggies](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/first-aid-kit-organized-in-baggies.jpg "first aid kit organized in baggies - Mom Goes Camping") Planning on going hiking during your camping trip?  Please bring a first aid kit with you! Day hikers often set out with minimal supplies because “it’s only going to be a short hike.”  Then something goes wrong and they find themselves completely unprepared.   The same goes for any other day activities like mountain biking or canoeing: bring a first aid kit! It’s probably not feasible to bring your entire first aid kit with you on a hike.  Instead, I bring a minimal version of the first aid kit.  It’s actually the same kit I take backpacking.  I keep it packed and stored with my camping gear.  This saves me the hassle of packing it before each trip. - Get the **[mini version of the first aid kit](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-first-aid-kit-checklist/)** here. - Also please read this post on [**What to Take with You Hiking**](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-packing-list/). It includes must-have items like a headlamp, rain jacket, lighter, and first aid kit. ## Camping First Aid Kit Checklist As mentioned before, you should have a first aid kit in your car anyway. This kit should contain everything you need for camping, as well as car accidents.  Keep it stocked and you won’t have to pack a first aid kit each time you go camping; it will always be ready. Here’s what you need to make sure is in your kit.  I’ve broken the items down by what they are used for. **Don’t want to build your own first aid kit? Here are the [best camping first aid kits you can buy](https://momgoescamping.com/best-first-aid-kits-for-camping/).** ### Trauma Items (Bleeding Wounds and Burns) - **Adhesive bandages in various sizes (Band-Aids):** These are what you’ll use for minor scrapes and cuts. - **Moleskin:** Used for blisters. - **Hemostatic pads/dressings (such as QuikClot):** If a major injury occurs, use these to apply pressure to the wound and stop bleeding. The hemostatic agent causes blood to clot. - **Sterile heavy gauze:** This is used to bandage larger wounds. It can be cut to size and is held in place with medical tape or a roller bandage. - **Gauze roller bandages:** These can be used to bandage injuries in difficult locations, to hold bandages in place, to apply pressure to a wound, or to tie a splint in place. - **Butterfly bandages (or Zip stitch):** These are used for narrow, deep cuts like knife wounds. They hold skin on both sides of the wound closed until it can be sutured. - **Medical tape:** In addition to holding bandages in place, it can be used for patching holes in tents, fixing broken tent poles, and much more. - **Tourniquet:** This can literally save a life. Read how to use a tourniquet here. ### Wound Care and Cleaning - **Sterile irrigation solution** - **Irrigation syringe** - **Antiseptic wipes** - **Sterile cotton swabs** - **Antiseptic ointment:** Always apply this over wounds. It prevents infection and stops the bandage from sticking to the wound. - **Burn gel:** Aloe vera gel is good for this. I use a beeswax-based balm which can also be applied to sunburn and my lips. ### Bone and Ligament Injuries - **Triangle bandage:** This can be used for making a sling, tying a splint in place, making an eye patch, bandaging a head injury, and much ore. - **Ace bandage:** For sprains - **Hot/cold pack** - **Splints (C-splint or Sam splint recommended):** Yes, you can improvise a splint but these are much more effective. Don’t plan to improvise! ### Medications, Ointments and Creams - **Acetaminophen** - **NSAID pain killers (aspirin, ibuprofen, naproxen)** - **EpiPen for known allergies** - **Anti-diarrheal medicine:** Note you shouldn’t use these if you have bloody stools. - **Probiotics:** For upset stomach - **Activated charcoal:** Good for food poisoning, upset stomach, and gas - **Emetics for inducing vomiting:** In case someone consumes a poisonous plant - **Electrolytes:** For treating dehydration - **Itch/sting ointments such as hydrocortisone** - **Anti-fungal creams** - **Antacids** - **Cough/cold/flu medicines** - **Insect repellent** - **Sunscreen** - **Lip balm** - **Personal medications** ### Other Items - **Packet of honey**: For treating hypothermia or low blood sugar - **Tweezers**: Choose needle-nose tweezers for removing debris from wounds as well as removing ticks. - **Safety pins:** For removing splinters - **Small scissors** - **Medical shears** - **CPR barrier** - **Thermometer** - **Magnifying glass** - **Disposable gloves** - **Antibacterial hand gel** - **Emergency Mylar blanket** - **Tooth pain gel** - **Temporary tooth filling** - **Nail clippers:** I used to forget these and inevitably get annoying hangnails while camping.  Now I keep them in my first aid kit. - **First aid field guide** ### Baby and Children First Aid Items - **Children’s versions of medicines:** At the very least, bring ibuprofen in case your child gets a fever - **Nose aspirator** - **Measuring syringe** - **Diaper rash cream** --- ### What’s in your first aid kit for camping? Did I miss anything? Let us know in the comments. Featured image credit:”[camping first aid](https://www.flickr.com/photos/144152028@N08/32618174145/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [aronbaker2](https://www.flickr.com/people/144152028@N08/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping Safety **Tags:** first aid --- ### [How Much Food to Bring Backpacking? (with Calculator)](https://momgoescamping.com/how-much-food-bring-backpacking-calculator/) **Published:** January 30, 2019 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Figuring out how much food to bring on backpacking trips used to be really stressful for me. I would “eyeball” the amounts when packing food. Since I was scared that I’d end up hungry, I’d inevitably bring too much food – meaning my pack was *way* heavier than it should have been and I also ended up with a lot of wasted food. Now, I carefully calculate how much food to bring backpacking.  It takes a lot of work at the beginning, but it is worth it because my pack doesn’t get weighed down by “just in case” food and I don’t have to worry about being hungry. ## **The Quick Answer:** Most people need about 16-25 calories per pound of their bodyweight when backpacking (or about 2,500 to 3,500 calories per day for a healthy adult). This usually translates into about 1.5 to 2.5 lbs of food per day. However, the amount can vary drastically depending on your body, the difficulty of the hike, pack weight, and calorie density of the food you pack. **Guess what? I wrote an eBook.** The book contains over 50 healthy, ultralight backpacking recipes plus tons of info on backpacking nutrition and how to plan meals. **[Get the eBook for 50% off here](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmetasheck50off)**[![dehydrator backpacking recipes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/book-with-tablet.png "book with tablet - Mom Goes Camping")](https://gum.co/gourmetasheck/50off) ## How Much Food to Bring Backpacking There are two methods commonly used to figure out how much food to bring on a backpacking trip: pounds per day or tallying up calories.  The first method is much easier but the second method is more accurate. ### Method 1: Pounds of Food Per Day When Backpacking The most common recommendation for how much food to bring backpacking uses “pounds of food per day”. Recommendations vary but are usually 1.5 to 2.5lbs of food per day. **While this method makes packing easy, it can be highly inaccurate.** For starters, the “pounds of food per day” method doens’t calculate in your individual calorie needs.  As a 105lb woman, I definitely don’t require as much food as my 170lb male hiking partner! Further, the method doesn’t factor in caloric-density. #### How Caloric Density Affects Pounds of Food Per Day Needed Let’s say you estimate you need 2lbs of food per day on your trip.  As the examples show, the foods you choose could result in a very different amount of calories. - **Uncooked macaroni** = 106 calories/ounce. Two lbs of macaroni would provide 3,392 calories. - **Bread** = 75 calories/ounce. Two lbs of bread would provide 2,400 calories. - **Starkist tuna in oil (pouch)** = 58 calories/ounce. Two lbs of tuna would provide 1,856 calories. - **A fresh apple** = 15 calories/ounce. Two lbs of apples would provide just 480 calories! Obviously you wouldn’t be eating just one food during a backpacking trip.  However, these examples show how the caloric density of the foods you choose affects how many calories you ultimately end up eating on your trip — and thus whether you end up hungry or not. #### **If you do use the pounds of food per day method…** - **Aim for foods with *at least 110 calories per ounce.*** This will give you 3,520 calories/day in 2lbs. - **If you are thru-hiking and need to be ultralight, then aim for 150 calories per ounce.**  This will give you 3,500 calories/day in 1.43lbs. **Also Read: [Most calorie-dense foods for backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/calorie-dense-healthy-backpacking-foods/)** ### Method 2: Tallying Up Daily Calories A better way of figuring out how much food to bring is to calculate your daily calorie needs.  Then you tally up the calories in all the foods you brought. It is definitely a bit of a pain to do this.  You’ll probably need to make a spreadsheet.  And, if you are making your own meals, you’ll have to use a scale and weigh every single ingredient. However, the payoff is that you get exactly the amount of food you need without any waste or worry that you will end up hungry. ![two day backpacking food spreadsheet](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/2-day-backpacking-menu-spreadsheet.jpg "2 day backpacking menu spreadsheet - Mom Goes Camping")*Heres a spreadsheet I used to tally up calories in backpacking food for a two day trip with two people It breaks down to 3500 calories per day per person* **But that leads us to the quesiton of…** ## How Many Calories Do You Need While Backpacking? An easy  method of calculating how many calories to bring backpacking is to go by your bodyweight. [Backpacker](https://www.backpacker.com/news-and-events/calorie-calculator) gives these guidelines: - **Less active/rest days:** 5-15 calories per pound of bodyweight - **Moderately active (60 minutes of easy hiking without pack):** 16-20 calories per pound of bodyweight - **Very active (60-120 minutes of hiking on elevated terrain with a pack):** 21-25 calories per pound of bodyweight - **Extremely active (long day of hiking with a pack):** 25-30 calories per pound of bodyweight Children calorie requirements are calculated a bit differently. According to [this](https://health.gov/dietaryguidelines/2015/guidelines/appendix-2/) table and [these](https://www.babycenter.com/0_your-childs-size-and-growth-timeline_10357633.bc) average weights, children need around 30-40 calories per pound of bodyweight.  ([5](http://www.amcworcester.org/AMC%20Documents/2013-04-07_AMC%20Dehydration%20101%20-%20Low%20Res.pdf)) **For most backpacking trips which involve carrying a pack plus a bit of difficult terrain, it breaks down to this:** \[table id=6 /\] \[sta\_anchor id=”method2″ /\] ### Backpacking Calorie Calculator If you want a much more detailed analysis of how many calories to bring backpacking, you can use this calculator below. \[sta\_anchor id=”packweight” /\] #### How This Backpacking Food Calculator Works This backpacking calorie calculator use the “Pandolf model.” It comes from a 1976 military study in which a researcher was tasked with figuring out how many calories soldiers burned when walking with their heavy packs on. While the calculator is fairly good at giving you a ballpark amount of calories you’ll need, it can also be very inaccurate. The reason is because the calculator doesn’t factor in things like: - What your actual basal metabolic rate is - Muscle vs. fat you have on your body - Hiking speed - Terrain difficulty - Whether you are male/female - How long you are sleeping - Outside temperature and weather Any of these variables can completely change how many calories you need per day. ([1](https://halls.md/calories-burn-sleeping/), [2](https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/1qjl2w/do_you_burn_more_calories_laying_down_but_awake/), [3](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28919496), [4](https://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php/91238-Hiker-Hunger)) Also keep in mind that there are some issues with counting calories.  As I talk about in [this post about backpacking nutrition](https://momgoescamping.com/nutrition-backpacking-thru-hiking/), *calories do not always equal energy*. For example, peanuts are very high-calorie but (as you can see in your poop), a lot of those calories are never absorbed by the body. Despite this, calorie counting is still the best way to figure out how much food you need to bring backpacking. #### How Pack Weight Affects Calorie Needs If you play around with the backpacking calorie calculator, you can see that your pack weight has a huge effect on how many calories you need while backpacking. **For example:** - **A 150lb hiker going 3mph on a 1% slope will burn about 274 calories per hour without a pack.** - **The same hiker with a 40lb pack would burn about 334 calories per hour.** That’s why going lightweight is so important when backpacking.  Ironically, the more food weight you carry, the more food you will need to eat – thus making it even more important to choose calorie-dense foods and plan meals well. --- **Ready to take your backpacking meals up a notch? [Get my eBook here for 50% off](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmetasheck50off). Below are pictures of some of the lightweight, calorie-dense recipes included in the book.** ![dehydrator backpacking recipes](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/gallery.jpg "gallery - Mom Goes Camping")From left to right Blueberry chia oatmeal pear cardamom ginger oatmeal red pepper crackers with hummus beetroot salami mashed potatoes with white bean gravy pasta with buttery white bean sauce **How many calories do you bring per day backpacking? And how do you calculate it? Let us know in the comments!** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Backpacking, Camping & Backpacking Food **Tags:** food, meals --- ### [Camping with Kids: Tips for Planning, Packing, Staying Safe and Having Fun](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-with-kids/) **Published:** January 4, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** My dad regularly took my sister and me camping when we were kids.  Some of my best childhood memories are from camping trips with my family.  So, when I became a parent, I also want to take my kids camping. Even for experienced campers, camping with children can be a bit overwhelming.  *Will they be warm enough in the tent? Will they get bored? What if something bad happens?* This article covers loads of tips for camping with kids so you have a stress-free, enjoyable experience. The tips are broken down into the following categories: - [Planning](#planning) - [Sleep Setup](#sleep-setup) - [Gear](#gear) - [Clothes](#clothes) - [Safety](#safety) - [Food](#food) - [Activities](#activities) If you are completely new to camping, read this [beginner’s guide to tent camping](https://momgoescamping.com/first-time-tent-camping/).  If you have really little kids, read these guides to [Camping with a Baby](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-with-baby/) and [Camping with a Toddler](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-with-toddler/). \[sta\_anchor id=”planning” /\] ## **Planning a Family Camping Trip** ### 1. Decide What Type of Experience You want Camping means something different to everyone.  It can be a glamping setup with lots of organized activities, a minimalist backcountry trip with lots of hiking, or something in between. Once you know what type of camping experience you want with your kids, you’ll be better able to plan the trip. ### 2. Choose a Family-Friendly Campground You’ll need to choose a campground which is kid-friendly.  More specifically, *kid-friendly for your child’s age and needs*. - **For babies:** You may want larger, more secluded campsites so you don’t have to worry about bothering neighbors. - **For toddlers:** Hot water for washing up is a nice feature. Playgrounds where they can safely play are nice. Pools and water features should be fenced. - **Big kids:** Playgrounds, pools, rec rooms and gear rental are nice to have. **Read more about [how to choose a campground](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-choose-campground/).** ### 3. Also Choose the Right Campsite The location of the campsite at the campground can make a huge difference to your trip.  Depending on your kids’ ages, you may want a site: - Next to the playground: You’ll be able to watch them from camp - Near the bathrooms: To prevent accidents and having to trek long distances for late night bathroom runs. - Away from dangers: Such as away from the pool or high-traffic areas. - At the edge of the campground: You’ll have more privacy and are less likely to bother other campers if your baby or toddler wakes up crying. ### 4. Prepare Your Kids for the Camping Trip Not all kids handle new experiences well.  To help mentally prepare your kids for the camping trip, try some of these things to expose them to camping and get them excited. - **Pitch the tent in your yard.** Let them play there or even do a “practice run” sleeping in the tent. - **Read books and watch TV shows.** Peppa Pig, Curious George, Cocomelon, Maisy, and many other popular series have books/episodes where the characters go camping. - **Get older kids involved in planning.** They will be more excited if you let them help with the itinerary and choosing activities. \[sta\_anchor id=”sleep-setup” /\] ## Sleep Setup ### 5. Pick the Right Tent (or Tents!) The tent will be your family’s home while camping. It needs to be large enough to fit your family but still packable and capable of handling the weather conditions.  You may want features like a screened porch, good headroom, privacy screens or blackout walls for daytime naps. Depending on your family size and ages, you may want to bring two tents: kids can sleep in one and adults in the other.  Or maybe one parent sleeps with the little kids and the other with older kids. **For more info, read: [Best Family Camping Tents](https://momgoescamping.com/best-tents-family-camping/)** [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/disc-o-camp-bunk-beds-in-tent.jpg "disc o camp bunk beds in tent - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/disc-o-camp-bunk-beds-in-tent.jpg)This huge tent is roomy enough for a family of four ### 6. Kids Need Youth-Sized Sleeping Bags Your kid’s sleeping bag must fit them well. If the bag is too large, it won’t trap heat well.  Some youth sleeping bags also have cool features  that kids will love, like interior pockets for their stuffed animals or glow-in-the-dark designs. See the [Best Kids Sleeping Bags](https://momgoescamping.com/best-kids-sleeping-bags/) here. If you are camping with little kids, see these [baby](https://momgoescamping.com/best-baby-sleeping-bags-camping/) and [toddler sleeping bags](https://momgoescamping.com/best-toddler-sleeping-bags-camping/). [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/big-mo-toddler-sleeping-bag.jpg "big mo toddler sleeping bag - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/big-mo-toddler-sleeping-bag.jpg)The [Big Mo](https://morrisonoutdoors.com/products/big-mo-kids-sleeping-bags?aff=3) sleeping bag is perfect for little kids ### 7. Keep Kids “Organized” in the Tent Kids have a tendency to roll off their sleeping pad at night. Or, if your kids are like mine, they somehow end up completely turned around in the tent! Not only do you risk getting kicked in the face, but your kids will get cold if they aren’t on their sleeping pad. You’ll want to use one of these solutions for [keeping your kid on their sleeping pad](https://momgoescamping.com/kids-rolling-off-sleeping-pads-camping/), such as using a [portable camping bed](https://momgoescamping.com/toddler-camping-beds/). [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/kids-rolling-off-sleeping-pad-when-camping.jpg "kids rolling off sleeping pad when camping - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/kids-rolling-off-sleeping-pad-when-camping.jpg)Somehow kids always end up off their sleeping pad ### 8. Develop a Bedtime Ritual Babies and little kids might want to keep their normal sleep schedule and routine.  If the schedule doesn’t work for you though, you don’t have to stick to it.  For example, my toddler loved falling asleep in her sleeping bag in front of the campfire.  I just made sure she got pjs on and teeth brushed before starting the fire. For older kids, you might want to create new bedtime rituals for camping. For example, I usually read my  daughter a bedtime story at home.  When camping, we make up a story together. ![best kids sleeping bags for camping and backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/best-sleeping-bags-for-kids.jpg "best sleeping bags for kids - Mom Goes Camping")Our camping bedtime ritual includes falling asleep in front of the campfire \[sta\_anchor id=”gear” /\] ## **Gear** ### 9. Know What Gear Is Essential to You You’ll absolutely need essential gear like a tent, sleeping bags, and lighting for your family.  There are also some “non-essential” items which can really improve your trip.  For example, you may want a portable high chair for little kids to make mealtimes easier. **Not sure what to bring? See this [Printable Family Camping Gear Checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-checklist-family/).** [![family camping gear list](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/family-gear-800-420.jpg "family gear for camping - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/family-gear-800-420.jpg)This is the gear my family of 4 took on a minimalist 12 day camping trip ### 10. Don’t Get a Bright Headlamp Your kids will need to have their own headlamp so they can walk around safely in the dark.  Little kids really shouldn’t use ultra-bright headlamps though.  They will inevitably shine the light into your eyes or their own, which can be dangerous for their eyes.  Instead, choose one of these [headlamps for kids](https://momgoescamping.com/best-kids-headlamps/). ### 11. Bring a Chair for Your Kids Don’t make the mistake of bringing chairs just for the adults. Your kids will appropriate the chairs from you, leaving you to sit on the ground. It’s best to choose camping chairs specifically for kids. The shorter height means your kids will be more comfortable are less likely to fall out of it.  See these [best kids camping chairs](https://momgoescamping.com/best-kids-camping-chairs/)**.** There are also these [camping chairs for babies](https://momgoescamping.com/the-only-baby-camping-chairs-worth-buying/) and [toddler camping chairs](https://momgoescamping.com/best-toddler-camping-chairs/) too. \[sta\_anchor id=”clothes” /\] ## **Clothes** ### 12. Follow the 3-Layer System The weather can change rapidly when in nature.  Just like adults, kids will need to follow the [3-layer clothing system](https://momgoescamping.com/3-layers-clothing-system/) when camping.  This means wearing good base layers, a mid layer and a shell. ### 13. Invest in a Good Waterproof Shell It’s amazing how dirty kids can get camping. While it’s good to embrace some dirt, you don’t exactly want wet, muddy clothing all over camp.  This is why a good waterproof shell is so important.  It will keep the base and mid layers clean so you have less laundry and mess to worry about. Also read: [Best Rain Suits for Babies](https://momgoescamping.com/baby-rain-suits/), [Best Rain Suits for Toddlers](https://momgoescamping.com/best-rain-suits-toddlers/) and [Best Rain Jackets](https://momgoescamping.com/best-rain-jackets-kids/) and [Rain Pants for Kids](https://momgoescamping.com/best-kids-rain-pants/) [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/insulated-rain-suit.jpg "insulated rain suit - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/insulated-rain-suit.jpg)*A rain suit means little kids stay clean and dry even when the ground is wet and muddy* ### 14. Bring Dedicated Pajamas Your kids need to have clothes just for sleeping.  Don’t let them wear their camping pajamas around camp.  Insist that they change before getting out of the tent in the morning and don’t put PJs on until it’s bedtime. Why? Because their pajamas will end up dirty and wet.  Then their sleeping bag will end up dirty and wet, so it won’t keep them warm. For little kids, you’ll need backup pajamas in case of diaper leaks or accidents. **Also read: [Best camping pajamas for kids](https://momgoescamping.com/best-camping-pajamas-for-kids/)** ### 15. If Bringing Cotton, You’ll Need Lots of Backups Yes, [it’s okay to wear cotton when camping](https://momgoescamping.com/is-it-okay-to-wear-cotton-hiking/). However, cotton absorbs water like a sponge. If your kids so much as sit on a damp tree stump, they will be wet. In hot temperatures, this isn’t too much of a problem. But, when it starts getting cooler at night, wetness will mean your kids end up cold. If you don’t feel like buying synthetic or wool camping clothes for your kids, then you will need to bring a LOT of extras.  Also bring some rope to make a laundry line so you can dry out damp clothes. \[sta\_anchor id=”safety” /\] ## **Safety** ### 16. Establish Safety Rules Camping can be a great opportunity for kids to try new things, push their limits and gain self-confidence.  But it is also a new environment and there might be a lot of dangers. To keep yourself from worrying while still letting your kids have room to explore, you need to establish clear safety rules from the get-go. **Rule examples:** - Running is allowed, but not with sharp objects, in the dark or near the campfire. - They can poke the campfire with sticks, but only while sitting and no waving the sticks in the air. - Older kids can walk around by themselves, but must stay on trails and always have basic survival gear (like water and a whistle) with them. - Little kids must stay a set distance away from deep water. - In snake territory, kids aren’t allowed to lift or look under rocks. ### 17. Don’t Skimp on the First Aid Kit Make sure your first aid kit is equipped to handle all minor injuries and ailments from splinters to dehydration to [getting sick](https://momgoescamping.com/get-sick-camping/).  This will save you the agony of having to drive off to town to get something basic.  When backcountry camping, you’ll also need to be ready to handle major first aid emergencies.[![MyMedic MyFAK First Aid Kit](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/mymedic-myfak-copy.jpg "mymedic myfak copy - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/mymedic-myfak-copy.jpg) **Read: [Camping First Aid Kit Checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-first-aid-checklist/)** ### 18. Make an Exit Plan Sometimes things simply don’t go well when camping. Trying to “tough it out” can result in  your kids having a terrible experience and hating camping forever.  So, know when it’s time to call it quits.  Have an exit plan for these situations, such as having a list of nearby hotels. \[sta\_anchor id=”food” /\] ## Food ### 19. Choose Simple Meals Even if you love gourmet meals and campfire cooking, it usually isn’t practical when camping with kids.  Even things like making a salad can be annoying since you have to do prep and bring extra supplies like a cutting board and mixing bowls. You will likely enjoy family camping more if you stick to simple meals. Avoid meals which have lots of ingredients that need to be chopped up.  One-pot meals also make cleanup easier. **Read: [Easy Camping Meal Ideas (that Kids Will Love)](https://momgoescamping.com/easy-camping-meals/)** ### 20. Let Kids Choose their Own Snacks Kids use up tons of energy when playing outdoors, so they will be snacking a lot. Let them choose their own snacks for the trip and they will be a lot happier. **Bonus Tip:** **Divide snacks into separate baggies for each day.**  This prevents them from eating all of their favorite snacks on days 1 and 2 and being grumpy about it later on when there’s nothing but “boring” snacks left. ### 21. Create a Dedicated Cooking Area Having a dedicated cooking area helps keep camp organized.  When camping with kids, it also reduces the likelihood that your kids will knock over the stove! If the campsite has a picnic table, you can use one end for this.  However, there’s still a risk of them bumping the stove if they are eating at the table (I call out “stove alert” before lighting the stove so my kids know to be careful).   Instead, you may want to get a [portable camp kitchen station.](https://momgoescamping.com/best-portable-camping-kitchens/) **Not sure what to eat when camping? Check out my dehydrator recipes book.** [![backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/backpacking-dehydrator-recipes-ebook.jpg "backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook - Mom Goes Camping")](https://gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck) **[Get the book here](https://gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck)** \[sta\_anchor id=”activities” /\] ## Activities ### 22. Don’t Be Overly Ambitious One of the biggest camping mistakes that families make is being overly ambitious.  Sure, a scenic drive, kayak trip and hike might all sound like fun – but not on the same day!  Everyone will end up cranky and not enjoy the experience. **Try to:** - Limit activities to one per day - Keep scenic drives to less than 1 hour - Leave a few days for spontaneous plans or just relaxing around camp ### 22. Let Your Kids Entertain Themselves A lot of campgrounds have activities for kids like lakes for swimming, horseback riding, mountain biking and canoeing.  Some of these activities are worth it, especially if you don’t get an opportunity to do them in your everyday life. But you probably don’t need to plan too many activities when camping with your kids. Kids are remarkably good at coming up with ways to entertain themselves. My daughters can entertain themselves for hours by poking muddy puddles, catching fireflies and tadpoles, or building forts from sticks.   None of these activities were planned but still incredibly fun. **Still not sure how to entertain your kids? Read: [30+ Camping Activities which Require ZERO Prep](https://momgoescamping.com/activities-entertain-kids-camping/)** [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/camping-with-kids-playing.jpg "camping with kids playing - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/camping-with-kids-playing.jpg)*My daughter entertaining herself with pine cones* ### 23. Leave Electronic Devices at Home If you bring devices, your kids will want to use them.  They might even beg to use them.  But, if you don’t bring the electronics (or, even better, choose a campsite without electricity!), your kids quickly forget about them and start entertaining themselves. If you really have to bring electronics, try to make it a special experience.  For example, you can have movie night with a portable projector.  Or look over the day’s photos before lighting the campfire at night. ### 24. Have a Bad Weather Plan There is no such thing as bad weather; only bad clothing.  If you and your kids have the right clothes, you can still enjoy the outdoors even if it is cold, raining or very hot. That said, it’s still good to have a plan for bad weather days. For example, you can make a list of nearby museums or indoor attractions.  Or bring [camping games](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-board-games/) to play in the tent. **Also read: [What to Do If It Rains When Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/what-to-do-when-it-rains-when-camping/) and [How to Deal with Extreme Heat when Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-hot-temperatures/).** ### 25. Have Kids Do Camp Chores “Chores” like setting up the tent, gathering firewood and filtering water can all be tons of fun for kids. So don’t be shy about getting your kids involved in the camp chores. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/setting-up-tent.jpg "kids setting up tent - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/setting-up-tent.jpg) ### 26. Follow Leave No Trace There are 7 principles of Leave No Trace, all of which involve respecting nature and others around you.  However, it can be somewhat difficult to follow these principles when in nature with children. For example, kids might want to pick flowers.  Or feed animals. They might make a lot of noise which bothers other campers. It’s not impossible though.  Read this guide to [Following Leave No Trace when Outdoors with Kids](https://momgoescamping.com/leave-no-trace-kids/) **Guess what? I wrote a book on DIY dehydrator meals for camping and backpacking!** [![backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/backpacking-dehydrator-recipes-ebook.jpg "backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook - Mom Goes Camping")](https://gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck) **[Get the book here](https://gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck)** ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids --- ### [Best Hiking Trail Map Apps](https://momgoescamping.com/best-hiking-apps/) **Published:** July 20, 2018 **Author:** Diane **Content:** It’s no surprise that people have turned to GPS trackers or hiking apps to navigate new trails. Though some of the more old-school hikers shrug new technology off, preferring to rely on a classic map and compass to find their way, the fact remains that both new and seasoned hikers can use it to their advantage. It is true that hiking apps and GPS trackers can indeed help you find your way, but like all technology, they are prone to occasional failure and can leave you [lost in the woods](https://momgoescamping.com/lost-in-the-woods/). GPS technology isn’t always up to date with current road or trail conditions, and can route you directly into danger. Relying solely on your GPS to guide you to your destination can often result in *death by GPS* – people blindly follow their GPS’ directions without paying attention to warning signs like bad weather, severely unkempt trails, or even their gut feelings, can end up lost or injured. Despite this, don’t throw away that Garmin and start brushing up on your orientation and map-reading skills just yet. As technology advances, new and more accurate GPS systems and hiking apps are readily available. Below are a few of the best modern hiking apps to not only get you to the summit and back home safely, but help you have a better time on the journey ## Spyglass Spyglass is probably the most innovative hiking app on this list. While it includes a standard GPS toolkit that will satisfy all of your tracking needs, it also has a unique heads-up display via augmented reality. This overlays all important information — maps, speedometer, altimeter, a gyrocompass, sextant, inclinometer, etc. — while still allowing you to see the trail in front of you. This offers an experience unlike any other hiking app, preventing you from missing all the beauty around you, and also from making a potentially harmful misstep! Combine this with a remarkably low price, and Spyglass gives new meaning to seeing the forest for the trees! ## Alltrails There is no need to get lost on [some of America’s best hikes](https://www.healthyway.com/content/get-lost-and-find-yourself-on-americas-6-best-hikes/) as this nifty little app covers over 50,000 hiking trails in North America. Alltrails allows user to create their own trails with accurate GPS tracking, photos so that you can designate important landmarks, and text to clearly label them, all for free. In addition to this, it can share those created trails with other users, so there is a constantly updated database of safe trails. While the free version is impressive on its own, Alltrails has a paid subscription service that works with National Geographic Maps and allows you to print off and edit various maps. While these features are useful, the service costs a whopping $30 a month! If you find yourself in North America, you would be able to get by just fine with the free version, saving more money for delicious [trail snacks](https://momgoescamping.com/how-much-gorp-to-bring-backpacking/). ## Viewranger A worldwide hiking app, Viewranger offers the ability to download maps to your phone to be used offline in over 20 countries. An advanced GPS system can record tracks and help you follow routes as well as providing information on time, speed, distance, compass bearing, sunrise and sunset. Viewranger also allows you to share your routes and tracks with friends and social media, and you can share your location with friends and family (provided you have cellular service) if you do find yourself in trouble. While this app provides loads of free maps across the world, they also offer premium maps in certain countries for varied prices. The benefit of these premium maps is that they come packaged with terrain and trail details not available on other maps, as well as trail guides written by top publishing brands. ## Maps 3D Pro Another hiking app that comes with a great GPS system, what sets Maps 3D Pro apart from the rest of this list is one unique feature: topographical maps. These maps have contour lines in order to convey elevation to the reader, however these can become confusing if you aren’t particularly seasoned in map reading. Maps 3D Pro visualizes topographical maps in three dimensions which can show users their exact elevation and location, making it easier to navigate trails or know when you’ve gone too far. With searchable trails and landmarks like lakes and mountain peaks, planning your hike is ridiculously easy. This app also tracks your exact coordinates and elevation, which you can then share with other users. There are also smaller touches that make this app great, like an acoustic warning that sounds when you stray from the trail. ## Peakvisor Another interesting augmented reality app, Peakvisor uses your camera and location tracking to show you the names and elevations of the peaks around you. It also displays a highly accurate 3D compass and altimeter to help you navigate and track elevation. When you find yourself looking through photo albums or showing off your family memories with friends, you won’t have to guess where a particular pic was snapped or give a vague “I think this was in the Sawtooth Mountain Range” type of answer if people ask. With Peakvisor, you’ll have absolutely no problem telling people where you snapped all those [hard-to-choose-from photos of your kids](https://everpresent.com/truth-about-parents-and-digital-photos/). Peakvisor can be used offline, and is loaded with 3D maps of all major and minor mountain ranges worldwide so you’ll always be able to tell your little ones what you’re looking at no matter where you are. **![ross cowan](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/image1-1_edited.jpg "Ross Cowan - Mom Goes Camping") Author Bio:** Ross Cowan lives in Boise, Idaho with his fiancée and his dog Mosey. He spends his free time camping at Bear Lake, hiking sections of the Idaho Centennial Trail, white water rafting down the Middle Fork of the Salmon River and Hell’s Canyon. You can follow Ross on his Twitter @RossCowanWrites ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking **Tags:** hiking, navigation --- ### [Tips for Hiking with Two-Year-Old](https://momgoescamping.com/tips-hiking-two-year-old/) **Published:** August 20, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Honestly, hiking with a two-year-old can kind of suck (though the same can be said about doing anything adultish with a two-year-old).  But, once I made some changes to the way I hike, it started to actually be fun. Here’s what you need to know about hiking with a two year old so you *both* enjoy it. ## 1. Redefine What Hiking Means to You Are you still holding onto your definition of hiking from your pre-baby days? A definition that involved heading off early in the morning to remote trails? Or going on long, tough hikes to reach stunning vistas? While these types of hikes are *possible* with a two-year-old, it’s not easy.  Two  year olds get cranky if you wake them up too early.  They get annoyed sitting in a backpack carrier all day.  And it is hard work to carry a 25+lb child on rugged terrain. I’m not even sure I consider what my two-year-old and I do hiking.  It’s more akin to wandering around nature looking at bugs and plants.  But we are outside interacting with nature.  Who cares if we get far or not? ## 2. Understand Hiking with a Two-Year-Old Is Tougher than with a Baby Once you get over the whole fear thing, hiking with a baby is actually pretty easy.  The same can’t be said about hiking with two year olds. At two, your child is too small to walk long distances on their own. But they are also too heavy to carry in a hiking carrier on long hikes. With two-year-olds, you’ve also got to worry about a lot of things like: - Tantrums - Safety issues, like injuries or wandering off and getting lost - Poison ivy, stinging nettles, bee stings - Peeing their pants. Or worse – *crapping* their pants and you have to carry those crapped-in pants for the rest of the hike! It’s important to realize these things so you don’t plan a hike which will end up miserable for the both of you. ## 3. Bring a Stroller or Carrier You WILL end up carrying your child if you head off on a hike without a stroller or carrier! While every kid is different, it wasn’t until my older daughter was almost 4 that she was able to complete a hike on her own (and even those hikes weren’t very far). **Read:** - **[How far can a two-year-old hike?](https://momgoescamping.com/how-far-can-kids-hike/)** - **[Stroller vs. hiking carrier](https://momgoescamping.com/stroller-vs-hiking-carrier/)** - [**Best Child Hiking Carriers for Petite Women**](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-child-carrier-petite-women/) ## 4. If Using a Hiking Carrier… ![using a carrier with a two year old hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/trekking-poles-for-hiking-carrier.jpg "trekking poles for hiking carrier - Mom Goes Camping") - **Use trekking poles.** It will help redistribute the weight and prevent falls. - **Choose an easy hike.** I turned back once because I didn’t feel comfortably carrying my kid on a tough part of the trail near a steep ledge. - **Keep it short.** Don’t overestimate your ability to carry a heavy child on a long hike! - **Plan lots of breaks.** So you can get a rest and your two-year old can get out and explore. - **Get the right carrier.** Read [soft carriers vs. hard frame child carriers for hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/soft-vs-frame-backpack-hiking-carrier/) ## 5. If Using a Stroller - **Actually read the trail reviews.** Just because it says “stroller-friendly” on the trail, doesn’t mean all parts of the trail will be. - **An umbrella stroller won’t cut it.** You need a stroller with big wheels - **Bring a bike lock.** I have a bike lock on my stroller so I can lock it to a tree. This gives us more flexibility as we can go part of the way with the stroller and then continue on foot or with my daughter in the carrier. - **Get a wrist strap.** It gives me peace of mind that the stroller won’t roll away if I fall on a steep slope. **Read: [The best off-road hiking strollers](https://momgoescamping.com/all-terrain-strollers-hiking/)** ## 6. Your Two-Year-Old Doesn’t Care about Vistas Maybe your two-year-old will be different, but mine definitely isn’t interested in pretty views.  She’ll get bored on hikes if I don’t plan something interesting for her too. **What *does* interest a two-year-old on a hike?** - Insects - Tearing apart flowers to see what’s inside (but follow Leave No Trace in sensitive areas!) - Animals – she loves country hikes where we can see cows and sheep ## 7. Two-Year-Olds Get Distracted Easily As in: I let my daughter out of the hiking carrier for a bit.  She sees a leaf and spends 15 minutes happily shredding it to pieces.  Meanwhile, I’m standing there trying to encourage her to keep moving.  I finally drag her away and she starts crying… At this pace, it would take 6 hours to go a mile! This goes back to what I said about planning short hikes. Or, if going on a longer hike, make sure to plan LOTS of time for breaks so your child can get out and explore. ## 8. Following Leave No Trace Following the principles of Leave No Trace can be tricky with a two-year-old. They definitely don’t give you much warning before having to poo, so you won’t have time to dig a cathole to bury the waste. You’ll have to do it after the fact, which can be a big pain. Make sure you pack out any wet wipes you use as these can take 100 years to decompose! ## 9. Dress Your Child Correctly Since your two-year-old will probably be sitting (in a stroller or carrier) for most of the hike, he/she will need an extra layer of clothing than you to stay warm. While it’s best to wear materials like wool or synthetics, I don’t think you need to spend a fortune on special hiking clothes that your kid will just grow out of in a season anyway.  I have been able to find a lot of good hiking clothes at secondhand stores. Even if it’s hot out, I usually make my daughter wear pants and not shorts.  Pants help protect her from things like stinging nettles and thorns – remember that the woods looks like a jungle when you are only 33 inches tall!  Pants also help protect the knees from scratches from inevitable falls. ## 10. Consider a Harness or Leash It’s really difficult to constantly hold a two-year-old’s hand while hiking.  Having a harness means you can let your two year old hike a bit without having to constantly watch to make sure he/she doesn’t run off or fall off a cliff. ## 11. Be Prepared to Turn Back If neither of you are having fun, there’s no shame in turning back. You don’t want to turn your two year old off of hiking forever because you forced them on a miserable hike. ## 12. Ignore All the Instagram Influencers ![unrealistic family hiking photo](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/unrealistic-hiking-photo.jpg "unrealistic hiking photo - Mom Goes Camping")*This photo is so staged it makes me want to puke* Look through Instagram (or any other social media platform) and you’ll see endless pictures of happy parents hiking in gorgeous locations with their two-year-olds.  They make it seem so easy… What those pictures *don’t* show are all the tantrums, poop accidents, scratched knees, the back pain after carrying a child for hours… So be realistic and plan a hike which makes sense for your family instead of trying to meet unrealistic expectations. **Do you go hiking with your two-year old? What tips can you add? Let us know in the comments below.** --- ###### Image credits: “[Family](https://www.flickr.com/photos/eznix/31653241531/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [nix\|photo](https://www.flickr.com/people/eznix/), [Quaries.com](https://quaries.com/) “[Baby Hiker](https://www.flickr.com/photos/kteague/170116149/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [kteague](https://www.flickr.com/people/kteague/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking **Tags:** toddlers --- ### [14 Tips for Camping with a Newborn Baby](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-with-newborn/) **Published:** March 4, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Parenting a newborn (0-2 months old) is going to be tough no matter where you are, so you might as well be somewhere you find enjoyable. In this sense, taking a newborn baby camping is not at all crazy. However, it would be a lie to imply that camping with a newborn doesn’t come with challenges.  And, yes, for some parents staying at home is the easier and smarter thing to do. While writing these tips for camping with a newborn baby, I’ve tried to be conscious that every parent’s experience is completely different: what works for some parents might not work for you.  Even things that worked with one child might not work with your next baby. With this in mind, I’ve compiled tips from my own experiences as well as from many parents who took their newborn babies camping.  For the purposes of this article, a newborn is 0 to 2 months age.  If your baby is a bit older, then read this [guide to camping with a baby](https://momgoescamping.com/camping-with-baby/). ## 1. Don’t Make Any Plans Until *After* You’ve Had Your Baby You have no idea how long it will take your body to heal after having a baby.  For some women it is just a matter of days.  Other women have to deal with things like infected episiotomy incisions, C-section scars, blood loss, blocked milk ducts… On top of that, you don’t know how long it will take you to adjust to your baby.  If you are still struggling with getting your newborn to sleep on a crib, for example, adding the extra element of sleeping in a tent isn’t going to help. If you make plans ahead of time, you might feel disappointed and like a failure if you cancel (though obviously you shouldn’t feel like this!).  By contrast, if you wait until you feel ready to go camping with your new baby, you are more likely to actually enjoy the trip. ## 2. Have an Exit Plan I don’t know too many parents who actually used their exit plans, but simply having one makes camping with a newborn less stressful.  Here are some examples of exit plans: - **Camping near home:** Then you can just drive home if you are having a miserable time. - **Hotel:** Keep a list of hotels which are nearby and can go to. - **Campgrounds which also have rental cabins:** In case sleeping in a tent isn’t going well, you can just switch to the cabin. Check the cabin availability before you go. ## 3. Over-pack Leaky breasts. Throw up. Exploding diapers. Unexpected bleeding…. These things are all common when you are a new parent.   Make your life easier by over-packing.   You might want to bring: - Lots of extra baby clothes - Extra clothes for *you* - Tons of diapers - An extra sleeping bag and/or blankets - Menstrual pads, even if you stopped bleeding - Table, chairs, sit pads - Diaper changing pad - Portable crib, stroller, carrier - Extra towels - Kitchen tent or tarp (for shade or rain shelter) - Lanterns and nightlight for the tent ## 4. Stay At Least Two Nights All parents agree that the first night camping with a newborn is the hardest.  By the second night, things are easier: everything is unpacked,  you’ve figured out the sleeping situation, and are less stressed. So, ironically, if you try to do a “test run” by only camping one night, you might actually have a bad experience. ## 5. Prioritize Mom’s Comfort When camping with a newborn, most of the attention goes to keeping the baby happy.  But you should also be prioritizing mom’s comfort – especially if she is breastfeeding.  Pregnancy and childbirth is exhausting and it can take months to recover.  So make sure mom has everything she needs to stay comfy, like: - Chair for nursing - Breastfeeding clothes (so your upper body doesn’t freeze when breastfeeding outside in the cold) - Pillows - Comfortable sleeping pad - Camp slippers - Hot drinks - Hammock ## 6. Bring LOTS of Extra Food Breastfeeding moms need a lot of extra calories.  Plus, the fresh air of camping increases appetite. So make sure you bring lots of extra food – especially snack foods and [meals which don’t require much preparation](https://momgoescamping.com/easy-camping-meals/).  The last thing you want is to be sleep-deprived and hungry! ## 7. Invest in a Good Sleep Setup [![morrison sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/morrison-sleeping-bag.jpg "morrison sleeping bag - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/morrison-sleeping-bag.jpg)*Morrison is one of the only brands which makes baby sleeping bags for camping Check them out [here](https://morrisonoutdoors.com?aff=3) Use discount code Momgoescamping at checkout to get 10 off* If you want to take a newborn camping, then you probably plan on doing more camping as your child gets older.  So, think about what new camping gear makes sense to get.  At the very least, you will need a baby sleeping bag and sleeping pad.  You might also want a portable bed and a larger tent. **For more info, read:** - [How to Sleep in a Tent with a Baby](https://momgoescamping.com/sleep-tent-with-baby/) - [Best Baby Sleeping Bags for Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/best-baby-sleeping-bags-camping/) - [Portable Baby Beds for Camping](https://momgoescamping.com/baby-camping-beds/) ## 8. Don’t Co-Sleep in the Same Sleeping Bag While some parents do co-sleep with their newborn when camping, it is generally a very bad idea.  Even if your newborn sleeps well, you probably won’t since you’ll be too stressed about the sleeping bag suffocating her.  For more on this, read this post on [co-sleeping with a baby when camping](https://momgoescamping.com/co-sleeping-baby-camping/). ## 9. Plan Where Your Newborn Will Sleep during the Day Since newborn babies spend a lot of the day sleeping, it is imperative that you bring somewhere to put them down to sleep. Ideally, the sleeping place is elevated off the ground.  While you can put your newborn on a sleeping pad on the ground, it is generally not a good idea.   There’s no way to keep insects off of her and you’ll have to worry about other campers tripping over your baby. **Good solutions are:** - **Stroller:** This is what worked for my family. We got a stroller that could handle rough terrain. Our daughter would fall asleep in it almost instantly. - **Portable crib with stable legs:** Most portable cribs aren’t good for camping because they could easily topple over on uneven terrain.  Some people use pack n’ plays, but I found it difficult to get sleeping newborn in/out. **Note: Carriers are NOT for sleeping!** Don’t make the mistake of thinking your newborn will sleep in the carrier for the entire camping trip.  You will get exhausted from constantly having your baby strapped to your chest, not to mention find it difficult to do things like eat or go to the bathroom.   Bring somewhere to put your baby down! ![newborn sleeping in stroller](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/newborn-sleeping-in-stroller.jpg "newborn sleeping in stroller - Mom Goes Camping")*Newborn sleeping in the stroller means I get a break* ## 10. Test All Gear Before Your Trip It is good practice to test out all gear before any camping trip.  But this is even more important when camping with a baby.  You’ll want to take your baby for a walk in the carrier, get her in the sleeping bag, and prepare formula using your camp stove. Even test out new diapers you will be using. I learned this the hard way. My daughter used cloth diapers at home but we decided to use disposables when traveling.  The brand of disposables we got ended up being terrible and immediately resulted in a poop explosion.   This could have been avoided had I tested those diapers at home first. ## 11. Sun Protection Newborns have very sensitive skin but are too young to wear sunscreen.  Ideally you will get a shady campground.  If not, then consider bringing a shade tarp or kitchen tent to hang out in.  Also make sure you’ve got UV-protective clothing and a floppy hat for your newborn. ## 12. Mosquitoes and Ticks Bug spray isn’t safe for newborns and most natural repellents don’t work that well.  So, the only good way to keep bugs off your newborn is to use mosquito netting.  Some strollers and portable cribs come with built-in bug screens.  I just bought some cheap netting and used giant binder clips to hang it over the stroller. ## 13. Bottle Feeding a Newborn at Camp Breastfeeding is a heck of a lot easier than bottle feeding while camping.  Some tips that may make it easier are: - **Choose a campground with potable water.** Then you won’t have to treat the water before making formula each time. If you are worried about the cleanliness of the water, then bring your own water for formula. - **Prepare water the night before.** Boil a kettle of water before bed and put it in an insulated flask. By morning feeding time, it will be the perfect temperature. - **Use disposable bottle inserts.** While I hate disposables, these do make camping with a newborn easier. You still have to clean the nipples but won’t have to clean bottles. - **Bring lots of nipples and bottles.** Just rinse them after each feeding. Then you can clean them all at once. ## 14. Yes, Newborn Babies Will Bother the Neighbors While most campers are sympathetic, there are campers who will be annoyed by your newborn’s crying.  As one woman said, *“As a mum of twins I’m not unsympathetic to the demands of young children but don’t think everyone else should have to bear the noise during their relaxing break.”* There are ways to avoid annoying the neighbors, such as asking for a remote campground or going camping during the down-season.  But, if you already know that your newborn is a screamer, you might want to consider primitive camping instead.   This obviously come with its own set of challenges – like having to dig a hole each time you go to the bathroom and packing out dirty diapers – but at least you won’t have to worry about bothering anyone (or anyone bothering your baby). **Did you take a newborn camping? Let us know your tips in the comments section below.** --- ###### Sources: <https://www.ukcampsite.co.uk/cHATTER/display_topic_threads.asp?ForumID=3&TopicID=278877> <https://community.whattoexpect.com/forums/june-2018-babies/topic/adventurous-parents-camping-with-newborn-67285557.html?page=2> <https://community.whattoexpect.com/forums/july-2018-babies/topic/camping-with-newborn-68343698.html?page=2> <https://www.huggies.com.au/forum/1-baby/152-your-baby-general-chat/1202129> <https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/would-you-take-a-newborn-camping_topic41232.html>, Image credits: [Morrison Sleeping Bags](https://morrisonoutdoors.com?aff=3) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** baby --- ### [Solar Panel, Power Bank or Both for Backpacking?](https://momgoescamping.com/solar-panel-vs-power-bank-backpacking/) **Published:** December 14, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Not sure whether to bring a solar panel or power bank on your hike? As one backpacker said, “”It seems like we go through this same question, again and again.”  The quick answer is: **For weekend backpacking trips, you probably don’t need any power source other than maybe some spare batteries. For trips 3-7 days, a power bank should be enough to recharge devices. On longer trips where you can’t get to town to recharge, you will need a larger solar panel *or* a smaller solar panel plus a power bank.** But let’s be clear here: there is no one best power source. There are simply too many different variables like the season, weather conditions, length of breaks and device power requirements. The technology is also rapidly changing.  Battery life is getting better and there are now plenty of options for ultralight power banks and more reliable lightweight solar panels. Below are the most important things to consider when choosing which backpacking power setup makes most sense for you. **Also read:** - **[Best lightweight power banks for backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/best-backpacking-power-banks/)** - **[Best solar panels for backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/best-ultralight-solar-panels/)** ## What Are Your Power Needs? Before you even start thinking of whether you need a solar panel or just a power bank, calculate your power needs.  You’ll need to calculate the battery capacity of each device as well as its power usage.  Based on this, you should be able to figure out how often you’ll need to recharge the device. By using your devices smartly, you can drastically cut back on power needs.  For example, - A Garmin inReach should last you weeks if you only turn it on when sending messages. - Bringing a GPS device will use less battery than if you use your phone for navigation. - Keeping your phone in airplane mode and disabling unnecessary apps will allow the phone battery to last much longer. ## Reliability of Solar Panel vs. Power Bank When it comes to reliability, a power bank is better than a solar panel.  You know exactly how much power you have.  You can recharge at any time of day, regardless of weather conditions.  And power banks do better in bad conditions, such as extreme temperatures, than solar panels. By contrast, solar panels are notoriously unreliable. If reliability is what you need, then it’s better to bring a massive power bank than a solar panel. ## SHTF Factor When a power bank is dead, it is dead.  By contrast, a good solar panel ensures you will *eventually* be able to recharge your devices.  Sure, you might have to wait 2 days for a storm to pass to get enough sunlight to trickle charge your satellite messenger to 3%, but at least you have that option! In this sense, a solar panel is better than just a power bank for backpacking. I like to call it the “SHTF factor.” **How much should the SHTF factor matter?** It depends. Would it, for example, completely ruin your trip if your camera battery went dead and you couldn’t take photos until the next recharge at town?   If yes, then it’s probably worth the weight of carrying a solar panel.  If not, then just bring a power bank. And, while many backpackers like to believe they are invincible, bear in mind that [bad things do happen](https://momgoescamping.com/hiking-packing-list/).  It’s not worth shedding 6oz from your pack weight if your safety is put at risk by letting your navigator battery die. ## How often will you be able to recharge the power bank? If you can’t get to town to recharge your power bank, then your only options are to: bring a bigger power bank or use a solar panel.  When you do the math, it might be lighter to bring a solar panel. ## Is the trail popular? Here’s something backpackers often forget about when planning power bank recharges: *it’s first come, first serve.* While I’ve never had this happen to me, I’ve heard of people having to wait hours for their turn at a wall charger.  Some hikers said they ended up paying for motel rooms just so they could recharge devices. **Tip:** If you do plan on recharging in town, get an 18w wall charger with two ports.  You’ll be able to charge multiple devices much faster (or can share one slot with another backpacker).  Also make sure it is slim in profile so you won’t take up two slots. ## Weight of Solar Panel vs. Power Bank Remember that there is such thing as *stupid light*. It’s not worth shedding a few ounces from your pack if it means your crucial devices might die on you! So weight really shouldn’t be your first concern when choosing between a solar panel and a power bank. Since weight is always a factor when backpacking though, here are some good guidelines to go by: - Bring spare batteries unless the weight of all batteries is more than that of a power bank. - Bring a power bank unless the weight of the power bank is more than that of a reliable solar setup. ## Convenience When it comes to convenience, power banks are usually much better than solar panels. To use a solar panel backpacking, you really need to lay it out completely flat and have it aimed directly at the sun.  Hanging it from your backpack is *not* a good way to recharge. If you spend most of the daylight hours hiking, then it will be incredibly inconvenient to use solar panels on your hike. You’d have to take the solar panels and devices out on each break to utilize the sunlight. On the flip side, power banks can be inconvenient on long hikes if it means you’ve got to plan trips to town just to recharge – not to mention the hours you spend waiting for it to recharge. ![charging with solar panel](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/charging-with-solar-panel-min.jpg "charging with solar panel-min - Mom Goes Camping")*Charging with a solar panel on the AT in the early morning before starting to hike for the day* ## Are your devices trickle-charge compatible? Another aspect of the solar vs. power bank debate that gets overlooked is trickle-charge compatibility.  Some devices simple don’t charge well with the variable power from solar. An iPhone, for example, is notoriously bad for solar charging. If you plug an iPhone into a solar panel to charge in cloudy weather, the screen will start flashing “charging”.  This flashing can drain the battery faster than you can recharge it with the solar panel. You’d need a very large solar panel to directly charge finicky devices in cloudy weather.  By contrast, power banks are usually pretty good when it comes to trickle charging with solar. You can get by with a smaller solar panel to charge the power bank, and then use the power bank to charge devices. Yes, you lose some power in the conversion but it still often ends up being more reliable. ## Do you love playing with tech toys? Is it going to annoy you to take out your solar panel during every snack break and aim it towards the sun?  Or are you going to have fun calculating how quickly devices charge in different weather conditions and angles?  Some of us like our toys. 🙂 ## How much money you want to invest? While solar panels are getting cheaper, power banks are still the more budget-friendly option.  Just bear in mind that *you get what you pay for.* Generic-brand power banks often only deliver 30% to 50% of their advertised capacity.  I even had one cheap power bank that suddenly just stopped charging (luckily I wasn’t on a backpacking trip when it happened).  The good brands of power banks still won’t deliver 100% of their advertised capacity, but they definitely come closer – usually around 70% to 80%. The same goes with cheap solar panels.  They simply don’t perform as advertised and won’t have features like auto-reset, so stop charging when a cloud passes over. ## It’s Complicated! Figuring out the “best” power solution for backpacking is insanely complicated.  There’s tons of math about power conversion efficiency.  Power banks lose capacity as they get old. Solar panels can also perform worse with age.  Things like temperature can affect performance of power banks and solar charging too! Ideally, you would test each system out on a shorter backpacking trip. Then you can see for yourself  whether solar or a power bank makes more sense before committing to a setup for a longer hike. --- **Sources:**  <https://www.reddit.com/r/PacificCrestTrail/comments/llcn6l/solar_panel_battery_vs_larger_battery_vs_solar/> <https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/solar-or-battery-bank/> <https://www.rokslide.com/forums/threads/power-bank-or-solar-panel-or-both.202148/> <https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/94614/> <https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/extra-batteries-vs-recharging-via-power-bank/> Image credits: “[Charging everything up while I wait for](https://www.flickr.com/photos/dionhinchcliffe/14448281210/)” ([CC BY-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/)) by [dionhinchcliffe](https://www.flickr.com/people/dionhinchcliffe/) “[Algonquin – 3 Hiking 046](https://www.flickr.com/photos/12774122@N04/2942429125/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [jasontfowler](https://www.flickr.com/people/12774122@N04/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Backpacking **Tags:** power bank, solar --- ### [Is It Okay to Wear Jeans Hiking?](https://momgoescamping.com/wear-jeans-hiking/) **Published:** October 4, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** When you start hiking, you’ll quickly realize that there are lots of “gear snobs” who insist that you need to wear special pants.  And, under no conditions, should you [wear cotton clothes hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/is-it-okay-to-wear-cotton-hiking/).  But how much truth is there to this – is it really that bad to wear jeans hiking? ## Quick Answer: While not the most comfortable pants to hike in, it’s perfectly fine to go hiking in jeans when the weather is nice.  The problem is if the weather becomes cold and rainy.  Your jeans will become drenched.  If you don’t have anything dry to put on (and a way to *stay* dry), you will end up very cold, uncomfortable and possibly hypothermic.  For this reason, quick-dry hiking pants are recommended. \*If you want hiking pants but don’t want to spend a fortune, check out [REI Outlet](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Frei-garage).  You can sometimes find good discounts there on last-season’s models.  The brand [Columbia](https://amzn.to/3rt27zz) also has good cheap hiking pants.  Otherwise, expect to spend at least $50 for hiking pants. ## Jeans Are Okay for Day Hikes in Good Weather Hiking pants are definitely more comfortable than jeans for hiking.  They are lightweight and breathable, so you won’t sweat like crazy.  With the right [base layer](https://momgoescamping.com/merino-wool-base-layers-women/), you can regulate body temperature. Despite this, I still sometimes wear jeans when hiking in good weather.   Jeans are rugged, so I don’t have to worry about them ripping if I decide to tramp through a blackberry patch. Because jean material is so thick, they also protect against scrapes, scratches and stinging nettles too. And, if I go to a restaurant or café after my hike, I don’t stick out as much as if I’d worn my (admittedly dorky-looking) hiking clothes. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/leggings-and-jean-shorts-camping.jpg "- Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/leggings-and-jean-shorts-camping.jpg)Jean shorts + long johns used to be my go to outdoors outfit ## But Hiking in Jeans Is a Problem If It Starts to Rain… Because jean material is so thick, it will absorb water like a sponge.  Hiking in wet jeans is VERY uncomfortable.  For starters, they are heavy.  Wet jeans can easily weigh over 3lbs!  They are also harder to move around in when wet. This isn’t necessarily a problem in mild temperatures: you’ll be uncomfortable for the hike but it’s not life-threatening.  The problem occurs if it is cold temperatures… ## Wet Clothes Can Equal Hypothermia As water evaporates, it steals heat from your body.  So, if you are wearing wet jeans in cool temperatures, you will start to feel very cold.  Not only will your hike be miserable, but you could end up with hypothermia.  Yes, hypothermia can occur even at temperatures as high as 50F! On a day hike in wet jeans, you probably aren’t going to get hypothermia.  Hopefully you have dry clothes to change into so the trip home isn’t miserable.   But there’s always the chance that you get lost on your hike and maybe even have to spend an unplanned night in the woods.  In that case, the jeans could literally be the death of you. By contrast, hiking pants don’t hold much water.   They also dry insanely quickly.   I’ve had a completely wet pair of hiking pants dry on my body after just 30 minutes of hiking in moderate temps. ## Is It Okay to Wear Jeans Camping? It is perfectly okay to wear jeans when camping but *you must have backup pants.*  Keep in mind that it can take days for jeans to dry even in warm weather.   If it rains for more than one day, you might need LOTS of backup pants – which means a lot of extra clothing to pack. Let’s say it rains for the first 3 days of a 5-day camping trip.  To stay comfortable, you’d probably need to change out of your wet jeans at least once per day – which means you are wearing 2 pairs of pants per day.   That’s 6 pairs of jeans for just the first 3 days (and they aren’t going to dry by the 5th day)!  By contrast, you could get by bringing just 2 or 3 pairs of hiking pants for the trip. **And it doesn’t have to be raining for your jeans to get wet.** I recently went on an overnight camping trip with a friend.  I told her not to wear jeans.  She didn’t listen.    She ended up falling in the river and getting completely drenched.   She didn’t have any backup pants, so she had to wear her pajama pants and ended up freezing her butt off. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/drying-wet-jeans.jpg "drying wet jeans - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/drying-wet-jeans.jpg)My friend trying to dry her wet jeans next to the fire She didnt succeed ## Backpacking in Jeans Is Definitely Not Recommended Before I had proper gear, I did sometimes wear jeans when backpacking.  Luckily I never got caught in any serious downpours (nor did I fall in any rivers).  If the jeans got wet, they would take days to dry.  I’d be stuck carrying the heavy jeans around.  If my backup pants also got wet, I’d be really uncomfortable. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/wet-in-hiking-pants.jpg "wet in hiking pants - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/wet-in-hiking-pants.jpg)Its pouring rain out but Im comfortable and warm in my base layer with hiking pants on top **The bottom line?**  It’s okay to wear jeans hiking on day hikes but you’ll be more comfortable in proper hiking pants.  If you really have to wear jeans on camping or backpacking trips, you better bring lots of backups. --- Sources: <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.misc/c/wnI1q333Kzo> <https://www.bowhunter-ed.com/alaska/studyGuide/Hypothermia/321001_11501/?__cf_chl_rt_tk=ceM1fv4dAvBUQk.rB1RHsw.kOsvoaKXJcIuS3It8KXI-1664882951-0-gaNycGzNCL0> ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear --- ### [Kids Sleeping Bags for COLD Weather and Winter Camping? 5 Best Options](https://momgoescamping.com/kids-sleeping-bags-cold-weather-winter-camping/) **Published:** November 15, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** For starters, let’s be clear: don’t take your kids camping really cold weather until *YOU* have some experience.  There’s a fairly steep learning curve for cold-weather and winter camping.  You don’t want your kids to have a miserable time and end up hating it! But, if you are confident in your skills, you know that you’ll need a warm sleeping bag for your kids. Unfortunately, kids winter sleeping bags are virtually non-existent. But there are some solutions to ensure your kids stay warm even in below freezing temps.   I’ll go over the 5 main options below. **Also read:** - **[How Cold Is Too Cold for Tent Camping?](https://momgoescamping.com/how-cold-is-too-cold-for-tent-camping/)** - **[Can You Combine Two Sleeping Bags to Make One Warmer Bag?](https://momgoescamping.com/combining-two-sleeping-bags/)** ## 1. Kids Sleeping Bags Rated for Cold Weather There are a few brands which make kids sleeping bags suitable for cold weather.  The ones in the table below have limit comfort levels of 20F or less. Bear in mind that these are the *limit* comfort levels.  Brands almost never list the actual comfort limit for kids sleeping bags.  The actual comfort level is usually going to be 10-15 degrees higher than the limit.  So, the Big Agnes Wolverine would actually only be good down to 25-30F.  Even in fall, temps can easily drop below freezing – so your kid would end up cold at night.  Also read: [Best Kids Sleeping Bags for Camping and Backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/best-kids-sleeping-bags/) \[table id=72 /\] ## 2. Blanket *Inside* the Sleeping Bag You can give your kid a blanket to use *inside* the sleeping bag.   The blanket adds an extra layer of insulation. If your kids’ sleeping bag is too big, the blanket will also fill the empty space inside the bag to make it warmer. Don’t put a blanket on *top* of the sleeping bag though.  Not only will it just fall off, but it won’t be very warm: there will be air gaps and it could even compress the sleeping bag’s insulation, making it less warm! For this solution to work, the blanket should be wool or fleece. A down blanket will just end up compressed and won’t provide much warmth. As always when camping in the cold, avoid cotton! **Problems with this solution:** - **No way of knowing the warmth level.** You’ll have to guess how many extra blankets your kid will need. It’s stressful because you don’t want your child to end up cold. - **If your kids are squirmy sleepers, blanket will just end up uselessly bunched up at the bottom of their bag.** In this case, sleeping bag liners work better than blankets, but even those can end up bunched up. - **A blanket might not fit inside the sleeping bag.** Especially if your kid is already getting big for their bag.  It will be uncomfortable and your kid might end up hot and sweaty. ## 3. Put a Quilt On *Top* of the Sleeping Bag You don’t want to put a heavy blanket on top of a sleeping bag.  However, you can put a down or synthetic camping quilt on top of a sleeping bag.  Because they are lightweight, they won’t crush the insulation in the sleeping bag. Since quilts attach to the sleeping pad, you don’t have to worry about them falling off squirmy sleepers at night. There are also fewer air gaps than you’d get with a blanket. This gives you a versatile sleeping solution. ## 4. Use a Woman’s Winter Sleeping Bag There are zero options for *kids’* winter sleeping bags, but there are plenty of *women’s* winter sleeping bags.  Women’s bags are usually shorter and narrower than men’s bags, so they work better for kids.  You may still have to **tie off the bottom of the bag** (and maybe fill the empty space around your child with a blanket), but at least you’ll be sure of the temperature rating. The table below shows good women’s winter sleeping bags, their rating and sizes. \[table id=71 /\] ## 5. Sleeping Bags inside Double-Wide Sleeping Bag I haven’t tried this solution but some families swear by it for winter camping with their kids.  You and your child each sleeping your own sleeping bag.  Then you sleep together in an additional double-wide sleeping bag. Not only are you getting two layers of insulation, but you are sharing body heat inside the double-wide bag. Of course, this solution isn’t perfect.  The double-wide sleeping bag will crush the insulation of your sleeping bags a bit.   If your kid has an accident at night, then ALL of your sleeping bags could end up wet!  For this reason, I’d only use synthetic sleeping bags for this setup. The [Kelty Tru.Comfort 20 degree double-wide sleeping bag](https://amzn.to/3TCcvkb) is great because it has built-in “blankets” for each person plus ventilation options, allowing you to adjust the temperature easily. The [REI Hunkerdown double sleeping bag](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tool_type=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F193016%2Frei-co-op-hunkerdown-20-double-sleeping-bag) is also highly recommended. ![kelty double sleeping bag](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/kelty-double-sleeping-bag.jpg "kelty double sleeping bag - Mom Goes Camping")The Kelty Tru Comfort double sleeping bag In cold weather sleep in your sleeping bags inside this double bag **Do you camp in winter with your kids? How do you keep them warm at night? Let us know in the comments section below!** --- **Image credit: “[Grand Canyon Mather Campground – Winter](https://www.flickr.com/photos/grand_canyon_nps/33572880818/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Grand Canyon NPS](https://www.flickr.com/people/grand_canyon_nps/)** Sources: <https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/xdzlj0/bumping_up_sleeping_warmth_for_fall_with_a_blanket/>, <https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/6rpbqc/layering_sleep_systems_article_from_enlightened/>, <https://support.bigagnes.com/hc/en-us/articles/115003648308-Finding-the-Right-Bag> ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping with Kids **Tags:** winter --- ### [Cheap Family Tents (Which Are Still Great for Camping)](https://momgoescamping.com/best-cheap-family-tents/) **Published:** June 1, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** If you are just getting into camping, there is no reason you have to spend a fortune on a tent.  Heck, I go camping often and still sometimes bring my cheap tent (I’m less worried about someone stealing it when wild camping).  But you do need to be careful with cheap family tents because so many of them are really bad quality. Rain leaking, broken poles and condensation can ruin a camping trip! Below are my favorite affordable family tents which are good (or good enough) quality.  All are at least 6P – which is the [minimum size tent a 4-person family needs](https://momgoescamping.com/how-big-family-tent/).  The tents all cost less than $260 (at time of writing at least; prices change often). ## Quick Picks: - **Best Overall: [Ozark Trail 10P Tent](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008IMKRQ4/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B008IMKRQ4&linkId=9058be47c96a869296fcd927b9685974)** -It’s cheap, spacious and has three private rooms - **Runner Up:** [**Coleman 6P Instant Cabin Tent**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004E4ERHA/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B004E4ERHA&linkId=fdb103c19999a33936b518bae58364ae) – A basic, cheap tent which gets the job done ## Comparison Table \*Not sure which type of tent to get? See this [guide to tent type](https://momgoescamping.com/types-camping-tents-with-photos/). \[table id=61 /\] ## Best Brands of Cheap Tents The brands Coleman, Ozark and Campros all make cheap tents which are still decent quality.  There are also a lot of generic brand cheap tents which can end up being good quality. The problem is that the quality with generic brands is often inconsistent – you never know what you are going to get.  If buying from an unknown brand, make sure you carefully read their return policy. **Pro Tip:** If you are looking for a smaller, lightweight family tent, then check out [REI Outlet](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Frei-garage%2Fc%2Ftents).  You can find insane deals on last-season’s tents. ## Can a Cheap Tent Still Be Any Good? Yes, it is possible to get a good family tent without spending a fortune.  However, cheap camping tents often have some problems or are a pain to use compared to more expensive tents.  If you don’t go camping often, you’ll be fine with a cheap tent.  Once you start camping often, you’ll probably want to invest in a tent which better suits your style of camping. **Common problems with cheap tents include…** - **Heavy and bulky:** Low-quality tent fabrics are thick.  The tent can end up weighing more than 40lbs! - **Prone to failure:** Most cheap tents are generic brands made in China.  The quality can be inconsistent.  Don’t be surprised if poles break, fabric rips or stakes bend.  Bring some duct tape so you can fix gear fails! - **Lack features:** Cheap tents usually won’t have features like pockets, organizers, extra windows, port for electrical outlets…  I personally will pay extra for a tent with a lamp hook. - **Condensation issues:** Cheap tents often don’t have any vents, which means condensation can build up in the tent.  You end up wet from all that condensation dripping down on you from the ceiling!  Read about [tent condensation](https://momgoescamping.com/tent-condensation/) here. - **Not weatherproof:** The windows may leak.  You may need to use [seam sealer](https://www.amazon.com/Gear-Aid-Sealant-Tents-Clear/dp/B000O71L6Q?&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=e932c7e1c69cd29e25ffe86b31652d29&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) to prevent seams from leaking. - **Cheap Stakes:** Really cheap family tents come with plastic stakes which immediately snap.  Less-cheap tents will have metal stakes, but they inevitably bend. I recommend you swap out the stakes which came with the tent for [steel ones](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F693154%2Frei-co-op-steel-stake). ## Best Large Tents for Family Camping ### 1. Ozark Trail 10P Tent **Best for: Spacious, easy setup and good layout** ![ozark trail 10p large family camping tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/ozark-trail-10p-large-family-camping-tent.jpg "ozark trail 10p large family camping tent - Mom Goes Camping") #### Features - **Type:** Modified dome - **Rooms:** 3 with removable divider - **Footprint size:** 20×10 feet - **Max height:** 78 inches - **Weight:** 27lbs - [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008IMKRQ4/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B008IMKRQ4&linkId=9058be47c96a869296fcd927b9685974) #### Review This is a great affordable tent for a family with two or three school-aged kids.  It has a fantastic layout which lets you use the center area for gear storage.  You can even put a little table in there.  The side rooms are for sleeping.  Because each room has its own door, you can even enter/exit the tent without bothering sleeping campers. It’s a modified dome tent (two long poles are criss-crossed to make a dome). It’s fairly easy to set up once you get the hang of it – but it will be easier with 2 people. The dome shape means it withstands high winds better than a cabin tent.  However, it is a cheap tent so expect some leaking around the windows in heavy storms. The zippers also snag.  I also hate that there isn’t a zip or magnetic closure on the room divider, so you’ve got to completely unhook it to go between rooms.  Also see these [best 3-room family tents](https://momgoescamping.com/best-three-room-tents/). **Pros** - Three rooms - Each room has its own door **Cons** - Windows may leak in heavy rain - Cheap materials - Takes time to set up - Low headroom in side rooms - Room divider doesn’t zip open [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008IMKRQ4/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B008IMKRQ4&linkId=9058be47c96a869296fcd927b9685974) --- ### 2. Coleman 6P Instant Cabin Tent **Best for:** First family tent, entry-level summer camping ![Coleman instant cabin tent for family camping](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/coleman-instant-tent.jpg "coleman instant tent - Mom Goes Camping") #### Features - **Sleeps:** 6 (4p size also available) - **Rooms:** 1 - **Footprint size:** 10×9 feet - **Max height:** 72 inches - **Weight:** 24lbs - [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004E4ERHA/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B004E4ERHA&linkId=fdb103c19999a33936b518bae58364ae) #### Review This is one of Coleman’s most popular family tents.  It is a basic cabin tent which is just large enough for a four-person family using sleeping pads or cots (It will fit two queen size mattresses but there won’t be much room for anything else). Minimalist campers will like this tent because it’s relatively lightweight, sets up and packs up quickly and isn’t too bulky.  There are also massive windows which provide good ventilation when open.  Even though there is a vent in the roof,  expect some condensation if using in cooler weather. See our other picks for [best 6P family tents](https://momgoescamping.com/best-6-person-tents/). **Pros** - Instant setup - Affordable - Big windows **Cons** - Only one room - Condensation in bad weather [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004E4ERHA/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B004E4ERHA&linkId=fdb103c19999a33936b518bae58364ae) --- ### 3. UNP 10P Tent **Best for:** Large tent on a tight budget ![UNP 10P large family tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/unp-10p-tent.jpg "unp 10p tent - Mom Goes Camping") #### Features - **Type:** Modified dome - **Rooms:** 2 with removable divider - **Footprint size:** 18×9 feet - **Max height:** 78 inches - **Weight:** 23.1lbs - [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08NWR54PC/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08NWR54PC&linkId=2cde8e6722602465d19cde390622e37b) #### Review The UNP tent is one of the cheapest family tents you’ll find (without it being complete crap).  It is a modified dome, so you’ll have to cross two long poles to set it up.  There are two other poles for the side rooms. You’ll either love or hate the layout.  There is a divider which you can hang donw the middle of the tent to create two rooms. There are two doors (right next to each other) — one door goes into each room.  You’ll be able to enter/exit the tent without bothering people in the other room. The room divider doesn’t zip, so you have to take it down completely to walk between rooms. Without the room divider, you could fit two queen air mattresses in the tent.  It will be a tight fit though.  You’d be better off using a full air mattress on each side.  Or just use pads or cots and you’ll have lots of room for gear storage. For a cheap tent, the UNP actually handles rain pretty well.  The floor is pretty thin though (hence why the tent is so lightweight) so you might want to use a groundsheet with it to prevent tears. **Pros** - Very cheap - Lightweight - Handles bad weather okay - Two rooms **Cons** - Hard to fit mattresses through small doors - No zipper on room divider - Not many windows or ventilation [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08NWR54PC/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08NWR54PC&linkId=2cde8e6722602465d19cde390622e37b) --- ### 4. Campros Tunnel Tent (9P and 12P) **Best for:** Large families ![campros 9 person large family camping tent](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/campros-9-person-large-family-camping-tent.jpg "campros 9 person large family camping tent - Mom Goes Camping") #### Features - **Type:** Tunnel - **Rooms:** 2 (9P), 3 (12P) - **Footprint size:** 16×9′ (9P), 20×9′ (12P) - **Max height:** 72 inches - **Weight:** 20.9lbs (9P), 24.3lbs (12P) - **[Buy 9P Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08TBV6R6P/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08TBV6R6P&linkId=6e23622e1a387ad1900aab1ca7c5ce29) and [12P Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08ZS9Q2K6/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08ZS9Q2K6&linkId=f4086cd4ab3727a014224a4ee99d3eb2)** #### Review Campros is another good brand of cheap camping tents.  They make this tunnel tent in two sizes.  Both sizes are very spacious.  The 12P version can fit a queen mattresses on each side and still have room for gear in the middle area.  The 9P will fit one air mattress and the kids on sleeping pads. The tent comes with room dividers to make multiple rooms.  The 9P has just one divider which can go on either side.  The 12P has two room dividers.  I personally find the room dividers annoying though.  They don’t zip down the middle. Since the side areas don’t have their own door, you actually have to remove the divider completely to get in/out. Despite its design flaws, the Campros is well-made (for a cheap tent at least).  It withstands rain without leaking and there’s enough ventilation to prevent condensation in cold temps. Just remember that tunnel tents need to be staked out very well! \*Campros also makes an [8P version of this tent](https://www.amazon.com/CAMPROS-Tent-8-Person-Camping-Tents-Waterproof-Windproof-Separated/dp/B08XXBGS8F?&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=b3ebeef468e87169211f7d1a7c317d74&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl).  It has straight walls on the side. This gives you a bit more headroom in the sleeping areas, but means the tent doesn’t withstand windy weather well.  I’d personally stick to the 9P or 12P version!  Also see these other [large family tents](https://momgoescamping.com/best-large-family-tents/). **Pros** - Affordable - Lightweight - Good ventilation **Cons** - Tunnel tents need to be staked down well - Only one door - Low headroom - Room divider doesn’t zip down middle - Must unhook divider to get in/out of rooms **[Buy 9P Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08TBV6R6P/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08TBV6R6P&linkId=6e23622e1a387ad1900aab1ca7c5ce29) and [12P Here](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08ZS9Q2K6/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08ZS9Q2K6&linkId=f4086cd4ab3727a014224a4ee99d3eb2)** --- ### 5. Coleman Montana 8P **Best for:** Families who don’t need privacy [![Coleman Montana family tent review](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/coleman-montana-tent.jpg "coleman montana tent - Mom Goes Camping")](https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-8-Person-Camping-Elite-Montana/dp/B001TSCF96?th=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=c7f5be577078bed79825ed8ebe389a87&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) #### Features - **Sleeps:** 8 - **Rooms:** 1 - **Footprint size:** 16×7′ - **Max height:** 74 inches - **Weight:** 24.5lbs - [**Buy Here** ](https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-8-Person-Camping-Elite-Montana/dp/B001TSCF96?th=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=c7f5be577078bed79825ed8ebe389a87&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) #### Review The Montana is one of Coleman’s most popular family tents and it’s been around forever.  Chances are you’ll see other people using it at campgrounds (it’s good conversation starter!). Overall, the Montana is a pretty basic tent.  It doesn’t have room dividers and there’s only one door – so don’t count on any privacy.  The windows are tiny so it’s dark inside.  The headroom is also pretyt low, so you won’t want to hang out inside the tent.  As for space, you can fit 3 queen size beds inside but there literally won’t be room for anything else.  I wouldn’t use air mattresses in this tent at all.  If using pads, it will actually feel spacious. **Pros** - Good weatherproofing - Handles bad weather well - Easy one-person setup - Hinged door **Cons** - Dark inside - Low headroom - Doesn’t fit air mattresses well - Need two people to set up [**Buy Here**](https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-8-Person-Camping-Elite-Montana/dp/B001TSCF96?th=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=c7f5be577078bed79825ed8ebe389a87&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) --- ###### Image credit: “[Camping #1](https://www.flickr.com/photos/thejourneymanproject/2386435384/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [patrick\_fowler1](https://www.flickr.com/people/thejourneymanproject/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Gear **Tags:** family, tents --- ### [Backpacking? 12 Things You Forgot to Pack (Or Didn’t Pack on Purpose But Should Have!)](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-gear-forgot-pack/) **Published:** May 6, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I know everyone is trying to cut weight from their hiking packs in an effort to go ultralight.  But, there is such thing as “stupid light.” It’s really not worth saving a few ounces if it means you put your safety at risk or will end up having a miserable hike. Here are some of the most important backpacking items that hikers forget to bring – or purposely leave out – but you should really carry. ## 1. Extra Food Bring at least one day’s worth of extra food with you, especially if you are hiking far from civilization.  Then it won’t be a big deal if you accidentally knock over your pot while cooking dinner because you will have a backup meal.  Or you won’t be stressed about taking an extra zero day to nurse your sprained ankle since you’ll have that meal to hold you over. Yes, I know you can survive 3 weeks without food.  But would you really want to?  Better to enjoy your hike than suffer through hunger because you wanted to save some weight. ## 2. Seasonings Eating ramen, pasta and other instant foods gets boring really quickly.  Spices are an easy way to make your meals more exciting.  They weigh next to nothing and are easy to pack. ## 3. First Aid Items So, you’ve been backpacking 100 times but never needed anything from your first aid kit? Well, if you do need it, you will *really* need it! Most pre-packed first aid kits are missing lots of items (they always have 100 band aids but no diarrhea meds!).  I made my own kit with items to cover all of the major and inor things which could go wrong.  See [my lightweight backpacking first aid kit](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-first-aid-kit-checklist/) here. ## 4. Tick Tweezers Because of global warming, tick season is getting longer and their range is getting bigger.  Ticks spread all sorts of nasty diseases which can seriously mess you up!  But the good news is that your chances of getting tick-transmitted disease is very low if you remove a tick within 24 hours. But you’ve got to [remove the tick properly](https://momgoescamping.com/how-to-remove-tick/).  That means with fine-tipped tweezers so you can grasp it low. [![backpacking first aid kit](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/hiking-first-aid-kit.jpg "hiking first aid kit - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/hiking-first-aid-kit.jpg) ## 5. Safety Pins and/or Sewing Kit While it’s never happened to me, I’ve heard many stories of mice and other critters chewing through gear bags that smelled like food.   A sewing kit would come in handy to sew up torn gear.  At the very least, pack a few safety pins for fixing holes in gear bags.  You can also use safety pins for removing splinters. ## 6. Nail Clippers The scissors on multi-tools never work well for cutting finger and toenails.  And you *definitely* you’re your toe nails cut well when hiking for hours each day! ## 7. Duct Tape Wrap some duct tape around your trekking poles or lighter.  It doesn’t weigh much and has a zillion uses, like: - Fixing the sole which fell off your cheap boots - Stabilizing a sprained ankle - Repairing holes in gear By the way, gear failures are often the start of backpacking horror stories.  Like when your [Camelbak](https://capitaloneshopping.com/s/camelbak.com/coupon) hydration pack bursts and your down sleeping bag gets drenched. Or your self-inflating sleeping pad gets punctured, leaving you exposed to cold ground.  Duct tape can fix a lot of gear failures but not everything. You might also want to bring a bit of [Seam Grip](https://www.amazon.com/Gear-Aid-Silicone-Sealant-Silnylon/dp/B0009RP8HO?th=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=7e8881f0fcbb1d9f489bdba0d4d9c1ac&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) and [Tenacious Tape](https://www.amazon.com/Gear-Aid-Tenacious-Patches-Jackets/dp/B07WHM8C8G?&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=48951f36bedb3598e31ab3e5533f6207&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) just in case. [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/duct-tape-for-blisters.jpg "duct tape for blisters - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/duct-tape-for-blisters.jpg)Duct tape is great for covering blisters too ## 8. Bright Clothing If backpacking in the USA, there are a lot of morons with guns.  Including morons who are illegally hunting.  I even read one story [at Reddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/CampingandHiking/comments/stvuyf/expect_the_unexpected_is_solid_advice_when/) of a hiker who got shot in Wyoming because the other guy heard him, thought he was a bear, and shot out of fear. The moral? Wear bring-colored clothing. Preferably with reflective strips. And definitely have trauma items in your first aid kit. ## 9. Extra Rope or Line I always carry rope when backpacking so I can hang my food (critters are an even worse threat than bears where I live).   But rope is also really useful in other situations too.  Like, - Fixing a broken bootlace - Hanging clothes to dry - Tying an improvised splint around a fractured limb - Rigging up your tent when a pole snaps… ## 10. A Few (Extra) Water Purification Tablets If you use a water filter, bring a few water purification tablets with you as a backup.  It is rare, but filters can sometimes break.  The tablets weigh almost nothing and are a lot more convenient than having to boil water to purify it.  If you are already using tablets, then carry a few extras. ## 11. Extra Water Yes, water is really heavy.  But it’s smart to carry more than you think you need before the next refill.   With the climate getting warmer, even some “reliable” water sources are drying up.  Or something like this might happen to you. > “I was banking on a water-source during a particularly long, dry and hot section of trail. Made it to the source only to find there was a bear with a shitty attitude who decided he wasn’t going to share nor had any interest in moving on. I had to continue on…Started getting light-headed, dizzy and nauseous. Eventually made it to camp which had a stream; water never tasted so good.” ## 12. Fire Starting Kit, with Backup Fire is one of those things that can really make a difference in life-or-death situations.  Like if all your gear gets drenched and you start getting hypothermic.  Or you are completely lost and need to signal for help.  Or you have no other way to purify water…   So pack a little fire starting kit. The kit should include a lighter and some dry tinder (I use dryer lint coated in Vaseline).  Have a backup lighter or waterproof matches – but store the backup separate from the kit!  If you drop/lose/forget your kit, at least you’ll still have the backup. On that note, it’s also useful to know [how to make a fire in the rain](https://momgoescamping.com/make-fire-rain/). **What other important-but-forgotten gear would you add to this list? Let us know in the comments section below.** --- “[First Aid & Emergency Repairs](https://www.flickr.com/photos/richardmaycr/20189076935/)” ([CC BY-NC 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/)) by [azoeart](https://www.flickr.com/people/richardmaycr/) “[My feet hurt](https://www.flickr.com/photos/badenton/20831834928/)” ([CC BY-NC-ND 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)) by [badenton](https://www.flickr.com/people/badenton/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Backpacking --- ### [Using a Convertible Bike Trailer as a Hiking Stroller](https://momgoescamping.com/using-a-convertible-bike-trailer-as-a-hiking-stroller/) **Published:** February 25, 2022 **Author:** Diane **Content:** If you plan on cycling with your children in a bike trailer, then you might want to consider this: get a convertible bike trailer/stroller.  However, there are some things to consider before using a bike trailer as your off-road stroller. Here are the pros/cons. **Also read: [Best Off-Road Strollers for Hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/all-terrain-strollers-hiking/)** ## Pros ### **You’ll Save Money** Bike trailers and all-terrain strollers are expensive.  Bike trailers that can also be used as strollers tend to be even pricier, but it’s still cheaper than buying two pieces of gear. ### **Bike Trailer/Strollers Are Covered** Sure, you can get a rain cover for a stroller, but it is nothing like the spacious bubble of a covered bike trailer.  That makes bike trailers better for snow. ### **Can Be Used for Multiple Sports** Some bike trailers can be converted for jogging and skiing.  That will make it much easier to get outdoors with your child, regardless of the season! ## Cons ### **Bike Trailers Are Only for Older Children** Even though some bike trailers come with inserts for infants, they should only be used for children one year and up. As explained at [Ice Bike](https://www.icebike.org/baby-bike-trailer/), the one-year rule is because bike trailers don’t offer the smoothest ride.  Bike trailers are positioned closer to the ground, which  is good for protecting against falls but not for dampening shock. Further, the wheels of bike trailers are positioned directly under your child.  Regardless of how good the suspension system is, your child will feel bumps. This isn’t an issue with older children, but the bumpiness can be dangerous for young babies who have soft spots in their skulls and can’t hold themselves upright. ### **Are Harder to Maneuver** In general, convertible bike trailers/strollers are larger and bulkier than all-terrain strollers.  This makes them harder to maneuver and heavier to push.  This isn’t much of an issue for off-road use, but it makes them annoying for everyday use – especially in tight places. If you do want to use a bike trailer/stroller for everyday, then get one that can be converted into a four wheel stroller.  The general consensus is that these are much easier to maneuver.  The [Thule Chariot](https://www.amazon.com/Thule-Chariot-Multisport-Trailer-Stroller/dp/B08P4939Y9?keywords=thule+chariot&qid=1645788369&sr=8-1&linkCode=ll1&tag=momcampnew-20&linkId=c4c2ce815b00bf1557d184a7f0cf68a2&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl), for example, has the option of converting to a 3-wheel or a 4-wheel stroller. [![thule chariot all terrain stroller bike trailer](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/thule-chariot-all-terrain-stroller-bike-trailer.jpg "thule chariot all terrain stroller bike trailer - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/thule-chariot-all-terrain-stroller-bike-trailer.jpg)Thule Chariot converts into a 3 or 4 wheel stroller plus a trailer and sled ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking **Tags:** stroller --- ### [How to Wash Dishes When Backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/wash-dishes-backpacking/) **Published:** October 5, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Yes, there is a right way and a wrong way to wash dishes when backpacking.  You’ll need to make sure that you don’t contaminate water sources, get dishwater around camp or waste your precious water.  With this method, there is no need for a camp sink as you use the pot as the sink.  Here are the instructions. ## 1. Keep dishes and utensils to a minimum If you [plan your backpacking food](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-food/) well, you won’t need more than a: - Pot - Bowl - Cup - Spork A lot of my meals are one-pot, so I can even skip the bowl and just eat straight from the pot. Or, if I’m backpacking with a partner, I eat from the pot and the partner eats from a bowl.  This minimizes the number of dishes to bring. **Tip:** Avoid oily meals.  It’s harder to clean oil off of dishes. --- ## 2. Presoak Do this immediately after eating.  You don’t want the food to dry on the pot or it will be really hard to clean.   To presoak: - **Nest all dishes and utensils together.** This allows your pot to act as a sink. If backpacking in a large group, you’ll need to bring along a collapsible backpacking sink like the one from Sea to Summit (find on [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000T9LQDC/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=momcampnew-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B000T9LQDC&linkId=70cd92de310fec62abf1f49e33730edc), [REI](https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&merchant_id=e295c418-295a-447c-b265-734e25f82503&website_id=679c1d3e-0895-459a-9d9f-95572aae6987&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dsea%2Bto%2Bsummit%2Bsink)). Also see [these collapsible camp sinks](https://momgoescamping.com/portable-camp-sinks/). - **Cover with a small amount of filtered or boiled water**. - **Optional: Add a few drops of biodegradable dish soap**. If the meal wasn’t very oily, then you probably don’t even need dish soap. ### Should I use hot water for washing dishes? A lot of people recommend using hot water for this step. I personally find it a waste of time and fuel to heat the water. I only do this if: - The meal was very greasy - I waited too long to wash dishes and the food crusted to the pot - It is winter and I don’t want my hands in icy cold water ### Do I need treat water for washing dishes? Yes.  Use filtered or boiled water for washing dishes. Avoid chemical treatments like bleach or iodine tablets as these do a poor job of killing parasite eggs. --- ## 3. Wash dishes I used to bring a sponge backpacking.  Now I will scrub with my finger or with some brush.  Pine needles work great as a scrub brush! ![wash dishes backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/scrubbing-backpacking-dishes.jpg "scrubbing backpacking dishes - Mom Goes Camping") --- ## 4. Dump dirty water You can’t just dump dirty water anywhere.  It will attract pests and habituate wild animals to human food.   Leave No Trace recommends the following: - **Strain dirty dish water.** Dispose of food scraps or pack them out.  To dispose of the water, broadcast it (fling it around to disperse it). OR - **Dig a cathole 6 to 8 inches deep.** Dump your dirty water in the cathole. - **Always dump dish water at least 200 feet from a water source.** - **Follow the bear triangle.** Dish water should be 200 feet from your shelter. See it [here](https://momgoescamping.com/keep-bears-away-campsite/). --- ## 5. Rinse To reduce the amount of water used, I first rinse the utensil over the bowl.  Then I rinse the bowl over the pot.  This method reuses water from the previous item.  Dispose of rinse water in a cathole or broadcast it. --- ###### Image credit: “[Pine-fresh dishes](https://www.flickr.com/photos/ruthanddave/2847875945/)” ([CC BY 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/)) by [Ruth and Dave](https://www.flickr.com/people/ruthanddave/), “[DSCN7379](https://www.flickr.com/photos/troglodyteking/38753193791/)” ([CC BY-NC-SA 2.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/)) by [troglodyteking](https://www.flickr.com/people/troglodyteking/) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Backpacking **Tags:** kitchen, sink --- ### [Dehydrator Black Bean Enchilada Filling for Tortillas (Cold Soak Backpacking Meal)](https://momgoescamping.com/dehydrator-black-bean-enchilada-backpacking/) **Published:** August 4, 2021 **Author:** Diane **Content:** I have a lot of favorite dehydrate meals for backpacking. But sometimes I just dehydrate whatever leftover food is in the fridge and take it backpacking. In this case, I had some black beans and corn in homemade enchilada sauce. It rehydrated into a delicious spread that I put on tortillas for lunch while hiking. You can actually dehydrate a lot of meals. However, I’ve found that creamy and sauce-based meals ([hummus](https://momgoescamping.com/dehydrator-hummus-backpacking-recipe/), pasta sauce, creamy soups…) work best for backpacking. You don’t have to worry about the texture of the ingredients getting weird (some foods too hard whereas others turn into mush). Creamy recipes are also more forgiving if you add too much or too little water when rehydrating. **I wrote a book about how to dehydrate backpacking meals.  You can [get it here](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmetasheck).** [![backpacking meals and food](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/gallery-min.jpg "gallery-min - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/gallery-min.jpg)Some of the recipes in my backpacking dehydrator recipes book Like a lot of dehydrator meals, you can make this one on the trail with the cold-soak method.  That basically means you just add water to the food and wait.  It’s awesome because you get a delicious meal without having to bring a stove or use your precious fuel.  **Read more about [cold-soak backpacking meals](https://momgoescamping.com/cold-soak-backpacking-meals/) here.** While the photos aren’t the best (my husband is the photographer in the family and didn’t come on this trip), the spread tasted delicious.  Here’s the recipe and instructions. ### Ingredients: - Black beans - Corn - Cooked rice\* - Enchilada sauce (homemade based on [this recipe](https://cookieandkate.com/enchilada-sauce-recipe/)) \*Rice is optional. It sometimes stays chewy when rehydrated. However, my leftovers already had some rice in them so they ended up in the final dish. ### Instructions: 1. Blend or mash all ingredients together to get a chunky paste. 2. Spread on dehydrator sheets. I use pieces of parchment paper. Leave some room for air flow. 3. Dehydrate until it easily snaps when bent. 4. Crumble into small pieces and pack in a baggie. The smaller you crumble the pieces, the faster it will rehydrate. ![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/dehydrating-enchilada-spread.jpg "dehydrating enchilada spread - Mom Goes Camping")*Bean+sauce before dehydrating*![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/enchilada-sauce-dehydrated.jpg "enchilada sauce dehydrated - Mom Goes Camping")*After dehydrating* ### On the Trail: 1. Put the dehydrated filling into a cup or bowl. 2. Pour water on top of it. Hot water will rehydrate it much faster. 3. Wait 5-15 minutes for the filling to rehydrate. 4. Spread onto tortillas or use it as a sauce on cooked carbs (pasta, instant rice, etc.) [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/rehydrating.jpg "rehydrating - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/rehydrating.jpg)Rehydrating with the cold soak method just add water and wait **Want more ideas? Check out these [backpacking meal ideas](https://momgoescamping.com/10-backpacking-meal-ideas/).  Or these [backpacking tortilla ideas](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-food/).** **And don’t forget about my ebook. It has over 50 recipes plus tons of info on meal planning, trail nutrition and more.** **Because you read this entire post, I’ll even give you a discount. 🙂** [**Get it here for 50% off**](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmetasheck50off) [![backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/backpacking-dehydrator-recipes-ebook.jpg "backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/backpacking-dehydrator-recipes-ebook.jpg) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Food **Tags:** dehydrator --- ### [Dehydrator Cauliflower-Walnut Taco "Meat" Backpacking Recipe](https://momgoescamping.com/cauliflower-walnut-dehydrator-backpacking-recipe/) **Published:** February 28, 2020 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Tortillas are one of my absolute favorite backpacking foods. They are calorie-dense, have a long shelf life, and are cheap.  But the problem is this: What do you put on your backpacking tortillas? If you are looking for something more exciting and nutritious than the standard tortilla ideas, this dehydrator recipe is for you.  It’s incredibly easy to make, really tasty, and can also be used in many other ways. Cauliflower also works surprisingly well when dehydrated.  It gets this great meaty texture.  You can even snack on dehydrated cauliflower while hiking.  I talk more about [dehydrating your own backpacking food](https://momgoescamping.com/diy-dehydrated-backpacking-meals/) in the linked post.  You can also find more [exciting tortilla recipe ideas for backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/backpacking-tortilla-recipe-ideas) here. ## Recipe: [![backpacking dehydrator recipe cauliflower walnut taco meat](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/cauliflower-taco-meat-1.jpg "cauliflower taco meat - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/cauliflower-taco-meat-1.jpg) **Servings:** Makes about 800 calories total, or about enough for 8 tortillas. ### Ingredients: - 1 large head of cauliflower (about 1lb), cut into florets - 1 cup of walnuts, chopped - 1 onion, chopped finely - 1 large tomato, chopped into small pieces - 1 red bell pepper, cut into pieces about 1 inch long and ½ inch wide - ½ hot pepper (optional) - Spice mix - Juice from 1 lemon - 1 Tbsp. olive oil - 1 tsp. ground cumin - 1 tsp. coriander - 1 tsp. smoked paprika (sweet paprika is also fine) - 1/2 tsp. garlic powder - 1 tsp. oregano - 1 tsp. salt - Pinch of cinnamon - Pinch of black pepper - Optional: pinch of hot pepper flakes ### Method: 1. Mix the spice mix ingredients in a large bowl 2. Toss in all the other ingredients. Make sure they get coated with the spices. 3. Let the mixture marinate for about 15 minutes. 4. Spread the mixture on a lined dehydrator tray.\* Make sure the mixture is evenly distributed. 5. Set the dehydrator to 130F/50C for 10-14 hours. The veggies should be chewy but not wet. If any water comes out when you squeeze them, then dehydrator for longer. 6. Store in the refrigerator until it’s time for your trip. 7. On the trail, just put some of the mixture into a tortilla and roll it up to eat. You can also add cheese, guacamole (from powder) or other things to make it even more gourmet. \*I use parchment paper to line my dehydrator trays.  For best results, use small pieces of parchment paper instead of one big piece cut to fit the tray.  This way the parchment paper won’t block air flow. ### Calories Tortillas usually have about 100 calories each.  If you use 1/8 of the dehydrated taco “meat” per tortilla, that gives you total of 200 calories.  I usually eat two of these for a lunch of 400 calories. ## Other Ways to Eat While I like this best as a filling for tortillas, here are some other ways to use the recipe: - Boil for a few minutes to soften and then add mashed potato flakes or couscous. - After dehydrating, use a food processor to puree the mixture into a spread. It can then be eaten on bagels or crackers. - Eat by itself as a savory trail mix. **Like this recipe and want more? [Check out my eBook](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmetasheck50off). There are oven 50 gourmet backpacking recipes you can make with a dehydrator.  Get it here.  I’ll even give you 50% off!**[![backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/backpacking-dehydrator-recipes-ebook.jpg "backpacking dehydrator recipes ebook - Mom Goes Camping")](https://gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck/50off) [**Get my eBook here for 50% off**](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmetasheck50off) ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Camping & Backpacking Food **Tags:** dehydrated food, dehydrator --- ### [How National Parks Are Being ‘Loved To Death’ [Infographic]](https://momgoescamping.com/overcrowding-national-parks/) **Published:** September 10, 2018 **Author:** Diane **Content:** At first, the numbers seem positive.  There’s been a 57% jump in the number of Americans going hiking and backpacking over the past 8 years. Plus, [national parks are seeing 21% more visitors](https://www.nps.gov/orgs/1207/02-28-2018-visitation-certified.htm).  That’s a good thing, right? More folks getting out and enjoying the outdoors. Well, yes and no. The downside of people’s rising interest in exploring the wilderness is that the most popular, well-known national parks tend to get hit with the biggest influx of hikers. And that results in the parks essentially being “loved to death.” More boots on the trails mean more pressure on park infrastructure, which already has a maintenance backlog of over $11 billion in the U.S. Crowded trails also translate to increased human-wildlife conflicts. Plus, more people equals added stress on the environmental overall. So should everyone just stay home then? No. I’m not suggesting that at all. But I am suggesting people seek out [hidden backpacking trails](http://slickandtwistedtrails.com/trailmap/) instead, which are often just as amazing as more popular stomps. Explore some of [the lesser-known national parks on this list](https://momgoescamping.com/find-free-camping/) or ask local tourism bureaus for tips on how to get off-the-beaten-path. Sure, exploring the trails less traveled will help North America’s park system (as the infographic below illustrates). But it’s also incredibly satisfying to experience a beautiful place that most people have never even heard of. ![](http://slickandtwistedtrails.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Infographic_final.jpg) This infographic was made by Slick & Twisted Trails **Author Bio:** ![Dustin of Slick and Twisted Trails](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/dustin-pic.jpg "dustin pic - Mom Goes Camping")Dustin runs the backpacking blog [Slick & Twisted Trails](http://slickandtwistedtrails.com/), which helps hikers escape the beaten path. Based on Canada’s Vancouver Island, Dustin is always on the hunt for those rare, less-traveled routes through the wilderness. ![author avatar](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7508dff408cb7b309a56a87ac9f56909d15af9dbe8916ce8b66f6232c74135bd?s=300&d=monsterid&r=g) Diane Diane Vukovic grew up camping and backpacking in upstate New York. Now, she takes her own daughters on wilderness adventures so they can connect with nature and learn resiliency. Diane has dozens of trips under her belt, and more than a decade of experience. Diane is an expert in minimalist camping, going lightweight, planning, and keeping her kids entertained without screens. She is also the author of three books on survival skills. [See Full Bio](https://momgoescamping.com/author/diane/) **Categories:** Hiking **Tags:** national parks --- ## Pages ### [Home](https://momgoescamping.com/) **Published:** October 7, 2025 **Author:** Mom Goes Camping **Content:** # *Ultimate Kids Camping & Outdoor Survival Guide* ### Expert tips, gear reviews and hacks from an outdoorsy mom [Read My BLOG](blog) [Read My BOOKS](https://momgoescamping.com/book-collection/) ### Hello. [I am Di](https://momgoescamping.com/my-story/ "My Story"), founder of Mom Goes Camping! ### I am a mom who loves the outdoors and knows all about camping with kids. From gear guides and safety tips to fun family activities, I’ve got you. 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Along the way I’ve learned what works and what doesn’t, from keeping food weight down on a serious backpacking trip to having the right reference handy when there’s no cell signal and something goes wrong at camp. These two guides are the practical result of all of that experience, written for real families who actually go outside. | **Eat better and pack lighter! Check out my trail recipes eBook!** **[![gourmet as heck book](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Gourmet-As-Heck-sidebar.jpg "Gourmet As Heck sidebar - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/gourmetasheck) [125 Pages – Full Color](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/)** | |---| If you’ve ever stared at an expensive freeze-dried meal packet and thought there has to be a better way, this book is for you. Gourmet As Heck is a full recipe book for making your own dehydrated backpacking meals at home, written by a mom who has tested every recipe on real multi-day trips with her two daughters. The book contains over 50 recipes, all designed to be lightweight, calorie-dense, and genuinely delicious. Most recipes pack 150 calories per ounce or more, which means serious energy without serious pack weight. With two exceptions, every recipe is gluten-free, and all of them are plant-based, so they work whether you’re vegan or a dedicated carnivore who just wants good trail food. Some of the recipes inside include walnut risotto, warming chickpea tagine, pumpkin chili, creamy cashew sauce, blueberry chia oatmeal, and DIY energy bars. Everything just requires hot water to prepare at camp, and most can even be rehydrated without a stove if needed. The book comes as a full-color PDF, mobi, and ePub delivered instantly after purchase. Who is this for? Anyone tired of spending a fortune on commercial backpacking meals, anyone who wants more variety and nutrition on the trail, and parents who know that a picky kid on a backcountry trip is a real problem that good food can solve. | **Became a camping pro with PRINTABLE Camping Cheat Sheets** **[![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/book-cover-thumbnail.jpg "book cover thumbnail - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets) [Download Your Copy Here](https://momgoescamping.gumroad.com/l/camping-cheat-sheets)** | |---| After more than a decade of camping with my kids, I put everything I wish I’d known as a beginner into one illustrated, printable guide. The Mom Goes Camping Cheat Sheets are a 44-page PDF designed to live in your camping kit, not on your phone. The illustrations were hand-drawn by my daughter Isabel, which makes this guide genuinely one of a kind. Every page is clear enough to read by lantern light and practical enough to actually use in the field. What’s inside: tents — how to stake a tent securely in wind, how to choose a campsite, and how to set up tarp shelters in multiple configurations. Fire — campfire cooking methods, fire lay techniques, and fire safety basics. Safety — bear-proofing your campsite, snake safety, and handling first aid emergencies in the field. Skills — essential knots for camping, navigation basics, and what to do if someone gets lost. Food — camp cooking tips, food storage, and meal planning for multi-day trips. This guide is designed for beginner and intermediate campers, though even experienced campers keep a copy in their gear bag for quick reference when cell service is nowhere to be found. Print as many copies as you need, and if you’re backpacking, just print the pages relevant to your trip — printing double-sided cuts the weight in half. --- ### [Terms of Service & Disclaimer](https://momgoescamping.com/terms-of-service-disclaimer/) **Published:** April 4, 2026 **Author:** Mom Goes Camping **Content:** **Terms of Service** By using momgoescamping.com you agree to these terms. Please read them carefully. **Content Disclaimer** The information on this site is provided for general informational and entertainment purposes only. While I make every effort to ensure accuracy, I make no guarantees about the completeness or reliability of any information on this site. **Wilderness & Safety Disclaimer** Camping, hiking, backpacking, and other outdoor activities carry inherent risks. Information on this site about bear safety, snake encounters, carbon monoxide, first aid, survival skills, and other safety topics is for general guidance only and does not constitute professional advice. Always consult qualified professionals and local authorities before undertaking any outdoor activity. I am not responsible for any injury, loss, or damage arising from use of information on this site. **Medical Disclaimer** Nothing on this site constitutes medical advice. Always consult a qualified healthcare professional for medical decisions. **Affiliate & Commercial Disclaimer** This site contains affiliate links. See my Affiliate Disclosure for full details. **Accuracy of Information** Gear recommendations, prices, and product availability change frequently. Always verify current information directly with retailers before making purchasing decisions. **External Links** This site links to third party websites for convenience. 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Email <momgoescamping@gmail.com> --- ### [About Me](https://momgoescamping.com/about-me/) **Published:** February 22, 2025 **Author:** Mom Goes Camping **Content:** [![Author Di Vukovic sitting in chair camping mom](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/me-in-chair-and-table-2.jpeg "author in chair and table 2 - Mom Goes Camping")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/me-in-chair-and-table-2.jpeg) # Mom Goes camping with kids #### -Di Vukovic #### Founder Di founded Mom Goes Camping, in 2013 (almost a decade!). #### Camper, Hiker, Ultra Light BackPacker Since childhood Di has grown up camping, hiking and travelling. #### Mother Most importantly Di has the privilege of raising two beautiful daughters. She aims to pass on her love of the outdoors. #### Author Dianne has authored several books based on Disaster Preparedness and outdoor survival skills. Diane is the lead writer at the prepping website Primal [Survivor](https://www.primalsurvivor.net/) and author of multiple books and blogs: [Disaster Preparedness for Women](https://www.amazon.com.au/Disaster-Preparedness-Women-Emergency-checklists/dp/B085RT8DCN) [Survival Skills (Shelter)](https://www.amazon.com.au/Shelter-True-Book-Survival-Skills/dp/1338853767) [Survival Skills (Water, Fire, Food)](https://www.amazon.com.au/Water-Fire-Food-True-Book/dp/1338853627) [Gourmet As Heck Dehydrator Backpacking Meals](https://momgoescamping.com/gourmet-as-heck/) [Rent.com](https://www.rent.com/blog/how-to-pack-a-go-bag/) [Readers Digest](https://www.rd.com/article/what-to-do-when-power-goes-out/) [The Bone Cleaner](https://thebonecleaner.com/) [![](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/cook-far-away-from-camp.jpg "cook far away from camp")](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/cook-far-away-from-camp.jpg) ### **“I Always Thought Camping Was Out of My League.”** For years, I felt overwhelmed by the idea of packing up, pitching a tent, and navigating the wild—all while managing the daily chaos of motherhood. I worried that I wouldn’t be able to keep up, or that nature was simply too unpredictable for me and my kids. One weekend, something amazing happened. I stepped away from the routine and immersed myself in nature, and I found that camping was not only doable—it was transformative. **“Nature Taught Me That Simplicity Is the Ultimate Luxury.”** That first trip sparked a journey of discovery. I learned that a successful camping trip isn’t about flawless planning or high-end gear; it’s about embracing the simplicity of life, reconnecting with your loved ones, and finding joy in every moment—rain or shine. I realized that the same skills we use every day as moms—adaptability, creativity, and love—are the perfect tools for any outdoor adventure. At Mom Goes Camping, I’m here to share the tips, tricks, and heartfelt stories that turned my initial uncertainties into confident, joyful experiences under the stars. Whether you’re planning your first family camping trip or you’re a seasoned adventurer looking for fresh ideas, you’ll find practical advice, gear reviews, easy-to-make outdoor recipes, and inspiring stories to help you create magical moments with your family. “I Can’t Plan the Perfect Trip for You, But I Can Help You Discover Your Own Path.” I believe that every camping trip is a personal journey. I’m not here to dictate a single way to explore nature; I’m here to offer guidance, support, and a community of like-minded moms who are all learning as they go. Through detailed guides, honest gear reviews, and shared experiences, my goal is to empower you to step out, explore, and build your own adventures—at your own pace and in your own style. Meet the Mom Goes Camping Team While I’m the heart behind Mom Goes Camping, I’m not alone on this journey. I’m fortunate to collaborate with fellow outdoor enthusiasts, family travel experts, and camping gear gurus who share a passion for making nature accessible and fun for every family. Together, we’re committed to bringing you the best advice and inspiration for your next getaway. **Join Our Adventure** Every story, tip, and resource on Mom Goes Camping is designed to help you embrace the great outdoors with confidence and joy. I invite you to join our community—subscribe to our newsletter, connect with us on social media, and share your own camping stories. Let’s discover that with a little preparation and a lot of heart, every mom can enjoy the wild wonders of nature. Thank you for being here. Pack your bags, gather the family, and let’s hit the trail together! [MY BLOG](#) --- ### [Affiliate Disclosure](https://momgoescamping.com/affiliate-disclosure/) **Published:** April 4, 2026 **Author:** Mom Goes Camping **Content:** Mom Goes Camping participates in affiliate programs, which means I may earn a commission if you purchase through links on this site — at no extra cost to you. **Amazon Associates** Mom Goes Camping is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com. My Amazon tag is momcampnew-20. **Other Affiliate Programs** I also partner with other retailers including REI and other outdoor brands through affiliate networks. When I recommend a product, it’s because I genuinely believe it’s a good choice — not because of any commission. **Free Products for Review** Occasionally brands send me products to test and review at no charge. When this happens I always disclose it clearly in the post. Receiving a free product never influences my honest opinion. **Gumroad** I sell my own digital products (e-books and guides) through Gumroad. These are products I created myself. **My Promise** I only recommend products I would use myself when camping with my own kids. All opinions are my own. If you have any questions about this disclosure, contact me at <momgoescamping@gmail.com>. --- ### [the ultimate list of CheckliSts (FREE)](https://momgoescamping.com/the-ultimate-list-of-checklists-free/) **Published:** April 21, 2025 **Author:** Mom Goes Camping **Content:** [Baby Camping Checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/baby_camping_checklist_F.pdf) [Backpacking Checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/backpacking_checklist_F.pdf) [Family Camping Checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/camping_checklist_family_F.pdf) [Pets Camping Checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/camping_with_pets_checklist.pdf) [Canoe Camping Checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/canoe_camping_checklist.pdf) [Car Camping Checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/car_camping_checklist.pdf) [Family First Aid Kit Checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/first_aid_kit_family_F.pdf) [Glamping Essentials Checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/glamping_essentials_checklist.pdf) [Lightweight Backpacking Checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/lightweight_backpacking_first_aid_checklist_F.pdf) [Ultralight Backpacking Checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/ultralight_camping_checklist_F.pdf) [Winter Camping Checklist](https://momgoescamping.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/winter_camping_checklist.pdf) --- ### [Guest Posting Guidelines](https://momgoescamping.com/guest-posting-guidelines/) **Published:** February 22, 2019 **Author:** Diane **Content:** Want to submit a guest post to Mom Goes Camping?  Please carefully read these guidelines first! I’ve receive tons of guest post requests per day.  Most of the requests are completely generic and from sites not at all related to camping/outdoors niche.  Oh, and a lot of the emails contain grammatical errors. :/  If you can’t write a proper email, I am NOT going to let you submit a guest post! **To be considered, you must:** - Tell me which site you are promoting. - Pitch some ideas. - Tell me who you are and why you will be a good fit for Mom Goes Camping. - Have absolutely no grammar errors in your email. - **Let me know which links you want to include in the guest post.** **\*\*\*I do NOT allow links to affiliate-style posts.  So, if you try to link to a “Top 10 Products” posts, the guest post will be rejected and/or the link will be deleted.** You must let me know which posts you would link to.  Any links in the post which were not pre-cleared by me may be deleted.  So no trying to sneakily include client links in the post. Preferably, the guest post is something you have **first-hand experience with.** Ideally, you even have your own photos (I don’t care if they aren’t professional quality so long as they tell your story). Here are examples of guest posts which I would accept: - My Experience Hiking the PCT Trail in April - Hiking as a 40-Year Old with Joint Problems - Visiting Zion with Kids Obviously, these types of posts can’t be outsourced to some cheap, crappy writer – so be prepared to have your guest post request rejected if you can’t write a first-hand account yourself. **What about sponsored posts?** In *some* situations, I do accept sponsored posts or paid links.  Please contact me for more details.  In your email, INCLUDE THE NAME OF THE SITE YOU WANT TO PROMOTE.  Ideally, you also include the links you want to include.  Obviously, I can’t include links which compete with my own site.  So, if I already have an article about the topic, I can’t link to your post. --- ## Categories ### [Camping & Backpacking Food](https://momgoescamping.com/category/food/) **Description:** Find easy camping food ideas for kids and families — from simple campfire meals to no-cook backpacking recipes that are nutritious and trail-ready. --- ### [Camping with Kids](https://momgoescamping.com/category/camping-with-kids/) **Description:** This is the heart of Mom Goes Camping. Everything in this category is about the specific joys and challenges of camping with children of all ages, from infants on their first camping trip to teenagers who are ready to tackle bigger adventures. You’ll find age-specific guides covering what to expect when camping with babies, toddlers, preschoolers, and older kids. There are articles on keeping kids entertained at camp, handling the inevitable meltdowns and rainy days, building nature skills in children from a young age, and making camping a tradition your family looks forward to every year. Camping with kids looks different at every stage. A trip with a six-month-old requires completely different planning than a trip with a ten-year-old. This category covers all of it with practical, experience-based advice from a mom who has been doing it for over a decade across multiple continents. --- ### [Camping Safety](https://momgoescamping.com/category/family-camping-safety/) **Description:** Camping with kids is one of the most rewarding things a family can do together, but it comes with real risks that every parent needs to understand. This category covers the safety topics that matter most when you’re taking children into the outdoors: wildlife encounters, weather hazards, first aid, navigation, water safety, and more. The content here is written by a mom who has camped in bear country, navigated remote trails without cell service, and handled real emergencies in the field with children present. Every article draws on documented experience and where relevant, academic sources and expert guidance. Understanding risk doesn’t mean being scared of the outdoors. It means being prepared so that when something unexpected happens, you know exactly what to do. From snake safety to carbon monoxide awareness to knowing when a child is showing signs of altitude sickness, this category gives families the knowledge they need to camp confidently. --- ### [Camping & Backpacking Gear](https://momgoescamping.com/category/gear/) **Description:** Finding the right camping gear can make or break a trip, especially when you’re camping with kids. At Mom Goes Camping, gear reviews come from real use in the field, not just spec sheets. From the mountains of Serbia to trails across the Balkans and beyond, every product recommendation on this site has been tested in actual camping conditions with children in tow. This category covers everything you need to camp comfortably and safely as a family: tents, sleeping bags, sleeping pads, camp kitchens, lighting, backpacks, child carriers, and more. You’ll find honest comparisons, budget-friendly picks, and ultralight options for families who want to move fast on the trail without sacrificing comfort at camp. Whether you’re outfitting your first camping trip or upgrading gear you’ve had for years, the reviews here are written to help you spend your money wisely. No sponsored fluff, no gear you don’t actually need. Just honest recommendations from a mom who has been camping with her kids for over a decade. --- ### [Hiking](https://momgoescamping.com/category/hiking/) **Description:** Hiking is one of the best ways to explore the outdoors with children, but getting kids on the trail and keeping them happy once they’re there requires some strategy. This category covers family hiking from the basics of choosing an appropriate trail to the techniques that keep kids motivated mile after mile. You’ll find guides on how far kids can hike at different ages, what to pack in a day hiking pack, how to handle trail hazards like wildlife and weather, and how to choose hiking footwear and clothing for children. There are also reviews of hiking-specific gear including child carriers, kids hiking boots, trekking poles, and hydration systems tested on real hikes. Whether you’re planning your first nature walk with a toddler or looking for tips to tackle a longer trail with older kids, this category has the practical guidance you need to make every hike a success. --- ### [Backpacking](https://momgoescamping.com/category/backpacking/) **Description:** Backpacking with children is harder than backpacking solo, and more rewarding than almost anything else you can do as a family. This category covers everything specific to multi-day backcountry trips where you carry everything you need on your back, including how to do it with babies, toddlers, and school-age kids. You’ll find guides on ultralight gear selection, how to plan your first backpacking trip with kids, what to feed children on the trail, how to handle water filtration and purification, and how to manage camp chores with young children along. There are also honest gear reviews of backpacking-specific equipment tested on real trips across multiple countries and terrains. The goal of this category is to make backcountry travel accessible to families who think it’s beyond their reach. With the right preparation and the right gear, you can take your kids further into the wilderness than you ever thought possible. ---